From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 00:20:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1204C3BFAC; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49A9D67D.5090906@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:27:41 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options References: <9ab0c76f0902260244g29d41921u8d908b47b81e15d9@mail.gmail.com> <49A84A4E.3030304@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0902271546o80f9797l2681701f3a57b741@mail.gmail.com> <49A8ACCD.20503@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <49A8ACCD.20503@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0HyfZC.A.XeG.KTdqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Exactly! While alternate tunings are interesting, so is more strings ;) I was set for a 7-stringer, but decided to wait it out till I can afford an eight or nine stringer. Daryl Shawn wrote: > This is interesting, Per. Of course, a guitar has different resonances > for different keys too, but maybe not so dramatic a difference, which I > wasn't aware of. > > I hear what you're saying with regards to range. That makes a good > argument, if sticking with a six-string. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> All wind instruments have completely new fingering for every key. And >> the resonating pillar of air behaves totally different if you just >> transpose the key a half step up or down. So the risk of getting in a >> rut is way smaller than when sticking with the guitar. >> >> >> >>> Honestly, I don't see a world of possibilities in switching tunings. >>> >> >> >> My question, when I started this thread, was to find out ways to do >> solo looping with guitar and have instant access to a wider range, >> i.e. being able to play like with a piano; making deep bases and high >> melodies in one go. The Stick is also good for that, but I thought >> that maybe you can tune a guitar "wider" to expand the range? But >> maybe a fifths based tuning will interfere badly with the ability to >> play fluent melody lines? > > > > . > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 00:46:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44C3E3BFB2; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49A9DC87.7070401@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:53:27 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_bLekC.A.5WH.QrdqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:46:08 +0000 (UTC) richard sales wrote: > > Of note to all lovers of open tunings, and I count myself as one of > them, I've heard that Leo Kottke has transposed all of his songs to > standard! Taking multiple guitars to gigs - and keeping them tuned - is > a pain in the butt, and when you're flying it gets quite spendy. A possible remedie is drop tuners (i.e. Hipshot and Sperzel D-thing). > I can't understand why no one has successfully invented a tuning peg > that could auto tune your guitar. I talked to Paul Smith (PRS) about > this a while back and he said it was because of the weight of the tuner > changing the tone of the guitar. But I think I saw that Gibson had one > coming out. It's available, wasn't invented by Gibson, but a German. Gibson licenced it. I can poke the name/link. The system is available for some Fender & Gibson look/work-alike guitars. About a thousand euro, last I checked. There's the system made famous by Jimmy Page. Yikes, more memory losses. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 00:47:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B6853BFAA; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:47:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235868036; bh=ZorW63eZ2th9JnRTbtg7PvMUB5KEOS0jcB6U5UukTV8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IZFJkZzZ9SCLd+XKR69bwRGcrZzpAh4upamE/0ntQ+CHgyei8nzDCswSHsLInCCVBiaiLPqrhikkTGXnM0dQDtHDQzVRZAaR/cJ8To1EfzxXE14dYxUfV1TWZyI3vrUR++9u6vtkRSWKGjI2cO6L6lewIRxcC0zMWceelj9nyPk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=U9xVZK9OdSTd+f5FCQZb4UKNhS+cFJ5rnOvOkHrZdj7zRupf7ytzPpP3Z40Ymk6XeNX8Kd2RAYmI/T6Bv5WNWmwMPxp89/MkQ+NiU2GMxPkSEYb1EeuP788Ny3qJOFsrjSKWJ772QGacwutBPJ9PeUzHjP5pKzNKqvvSZr8nyR8=; Message-ID: <518740.71044.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zY_YQVcVM1mTxf5Hq.MP62RG_k4lRMa4flSnV8gJFLsM0zuAkcO4t16iMrOw5wSUEWhz70YE8LkWmCR74fkr06X_jajI2xfoQGaI3lWdZZm7etUbnc9FDwxxEhhtDYHtql3XSyYD4GtTZInQCWPbaCNZQkvn36H_4QcH2oUv1RkmIpldpzEHRe2PfcRbAQtZ_S.EbZ26ZKseWd8ygmSd68xFpxIZLFF2 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49A9D67D.5090906@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:47:18 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Isn't 5th tuning on a guitar pretty much just tuning it as if were a larger mandolin or violin? rig --- On Sat, 2/28/09, van Sinn wrote: > From: van Sinn > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 4:27 PM > Exactly! While alternate tunings are interesting, so is > more strings ;) > I was set for a 7-stringer, but decided to wait it out till > I can afford an eight or nine stringer. > > > > Daryl Shawn wrote: > > This is interesting, Per. Of course, a guitar has > different resonances for different keys too, but maybe not > so dramatic a difference, which I wasn't aware of. > > > > I hear what you're saying with regards to range. > That makes a good argument, if sticking with a six-string. > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > >> All wind instruments have completely new fingering > for every key. And > >> the resonating pillar of air behaves totally > different if you just > >> transpose the key a half step up or down. So the > risk of getting in a > >> rut is way smaller than when sticking with the > guitar. > >> > >> > >>> Honestly, I don't see a world of > possibilities in switching tunings. > >>> > >> > >> > >> My question, when I started this thread, was to > find out ways to do > >> solo looping with guitar and have instant access > to a wider range, > >> i.e. being able to play like with a piano; making > deep bases and high > >> melodies in one go. The Stick is also good for > that, but I thought > >> that maybe you can tune a guitar "wider" > to expand the range? But > >> maybe a fifths based tuning will interfere badly > with the ability to > >> play fluent melody lines? > > > > > > > > . > > > > > -- rgds, > van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 00:51:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 997923BFB2; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235868716; bh=pyVwMwm/YLv8X4ax0k68Tu8oSQRhnrmwlPxsCY07S5I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NHg+vhugjObt1WCp/3xZVcUK5xhhkcyCEv/y33rSFAsZ/eC0W+EtEvlMro3tGWtdwZa09C4VP6gjBkCWpxF/wlT0PrNhA1vWaQ3CfGEPmZ1L8Y9KE9+Ejt5yWPunQfAIj31d8xO7CsgxGm1rt6T2lLvsdacxP5Bw46C3n0wA17g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MmjwWinKgTwdqWSCt/N/I3SR4NTh3oMtQtbYiSNry0ya7gaWVlHDo70FSMBVR9D5Bc81lPXRvjvJiYSuiTUcWVnAn4VtIODQ6v2yKc4t21yP5qyzaEcGG9kLlgPQiQ+5Q0RTn2sShfej27nbf5YcWWTWtQda/qiN5howkPrgKYc=; Message-ID: <772849.78621.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OFElJooVM1mUNJACaNjqFga7fjyyVbVZbvsfGYkrXKbpWdbblekBt.gZfta0Z958Hxh.y2RbPt2W0w53Ditw8bJMreLKxYNZ2TxbvPcnsdhEvqPD6Bu4PJEMZgvZsmM4EHFZJ9f8igahR7.59WorIACDhD4eiimEqBvktXJ0a0caX9e0fMkao4tuWvfm6VNBdbNQzXVAaUUbfVHnrBkYP2gS6otzTchXgw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:51:56 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2al3DD.A.OtH.twdqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Speaking of Leo Kottke, Where could one get the tablature, notation, etc. for his 12 string slide guitar version of Cripple Creek. The one that was on the "John Fahey, Leo Kottke, Peter Land album of the mid 70s. I gave myself 30 years to learn it and the clock is running out. MOST helpful would be what open tuning he used. Thanx in advance. Rig --- On Sat, 2/28/09, richard sales wrote: > From: richard sales > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 10:44 AM > On Feb 27, 2009, at 11:45 PM, Andreas Willers wrote: > > > Daryl wrote: > > > > "I was tuned DADGCF, so suddenly I started > writing everything in D minor. > > That's why God invented capos! > > > > I'll second that. Spent years of working towards > the point where I can play the stuff I hear in my head on > the neck fast and intuitively, although I regulary use > simpler open tunings and retune on the spot in some improv > situations. Also I immediately bought this new Woodies > G-band partial capo > > http://www.woodiesuk.moonfruit.com/ > > you can make your own by sawing off Keyser capos. Works > great and definitely scrambles the eggs for open tunings or > standard. I keep three or four on hand for when I get > stumped. > > > > > Of note to all lovers of open tunings, and I count myself > as one of them, I've heard that Leo Kottke has > transposed all of his songs to standard! Taking multiple > guitars to gigs - and keeping them tuned - is a pain in the > butt, and when you're flying it gets quite spendy. > > I can't imagine Vaseline Machine Gun in standard! > > I can't understand why no one has successfully invented > a tuning peg that could auto tune your guitar. I talked to > Paul Smith (PRS) about this a while back and he said it was > because of the weight of the tuner changing the tone of the > guitar. But I think I saw that Gibson had one coming out. > > I'd like to have that for a Q Stick guitar. > > Paul has some KILLER amps that should be available soon! > And acoustic guitars. > > For me, to address Per's original thought, the C > tuning, CGCGCE, seemed to have the widest range. But I > don't experiment much any more. I thought I'd > invented that tuning in the sixties, but then I heard Peter > Lang using it so it must have occurred to multiple seekers > at once - as ideas tend to do. > > I get sea sick reading about all the tunings for lap steel! > Sheesh! So I'm saving that for my old age! :) > > DADGAD is a very strange tuning to solo in. I've heard > folks do it well, but I would be more inclined to a standard > open D major or minor. But DADGAD is the bomb for all that > Norwegian Wood kind of stuff. I've done a lot of that > and still love it. > > Like an old farm wagon, I continue to find new stones, > twists and challenges in my old ruts. > > richard sales > www.glasswing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 01:35:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CECB93BFAA; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:35:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <121D2977-2834-4363-9749-BC329A6FD790@mikecrain.com> From: Mike Crain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--133937971 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Live Looping: it pops up everywhere gone OT Xenakis Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:34:59 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <8Q1A7B.A.0OB.FZeqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:35:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11--133937971 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try the Red Fish Blue Fish group. It's based in San Diego and is the percussion ensemble under the direction of Steven Schick. It's a fantastic disc!! Mike Crain Percussionist/Composer Sacramento, CA 95818 mike@mikecrain.com http://www.mikecrain.com http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by the partials will represent an appreciable contribution." - Edgard Varese --Apple-Mail-11--133937971 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Try the Red Fish Blue Fish = group. It's based in San Diego and is the percussion ensemble under the = direction of Steven Schick.

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= --Apple-Mail-11--133937971-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 01:35:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83E583BFAA; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235871354; bh=Y3uLjEGtaiSdXmHcGJ69Qh+qEf7VXSzv0xOMi6pYD6A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vmENh+AuvFE/ocC+NjUdqn6aS6ZLVe48ML1HWmYF4L60YdLDhN2Q4apieaQdHZJYxVhVpKyRYCZRLJct45pe9DOOClJXvwaJ1zNYKInV2nOteqHsww7+8ureRE4HyCyXuNV1JLoDkoYoHqNO4XNQXkYMaZuxFV+z7lgrFQ6Kz8w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u2BdPPeQXZ7N4Yqx7ETeMvN1IK6isA3KBmPp0961M9hTMKjUQVBy53XZ5PlmueR0/9ZyHbqjXgPUxEWJN92IugMFp9caP222aNAKWffuLLGInM28SEVTPMKcqs4FSW2xAXlcGDDHap+veN0YPkFN9KzYJkdNUecCUJLi216YIrY=; Message-ID: <595320.87930.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JL_I2WgVM1n1a3Kpxn1.gGt5WWq6sLVJra3Gt3CkF.hyKfzSNesOSC3LEvLzs3jZ8Vyyg6zKSQuD8tjfAnfhAWe5NQY8hnGnJNC5n9Yn_5iPopl4X8vPJc3M_2lFrz8S4Nl2_mlE1CPpDw_OMlC4nGYSAyS8hdw.wLA5dBbjaLRGbLUdydNFyXI4XH_VEfYRV62n3gL2Lo.SwNA0yHcbaMZEPD7D7PM- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:35:54 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49A8D77E.50500@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:35:55 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, When I wanted to learn mandolin so that I could make muzik ala Nash the Slash, and FM, I tuned the mandolin to the middle 4 strings of a guitar. Obviously, I couldn't use the note values of the guitar so I just transposed them down, (or up, i don't remember), to the most practical open notes of the mandolin. You have to get used to the open chords being in a different key, but it worked great for me. Fast forward to now, recently bought an acoustic/electric mandolin and i'm going to be right in the middle of FM country. Ben Mink and Nash the Slash are becoming quite acheivable now. rig --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options > To: billwalker@baymoon.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:19 PM > No sweat, I was putting myself pretty far out there and > didn't have a very thick branch to hang from. It's > always interesting to hear about the paths that serious > players take. I used to looove effects boxes, and may go > there again someday, who knows. > > That is a really, really pianistic voicing - pretty cool no > matter how you pull it off! Now I'm thinking about > voicing harmonic minor in different keys and seeing where > that takes me... > > best, > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > Dude, sorry to be so emphatic. To be honest, I just > went through a long > > period of minimizing my signal processing and > simplifying my rig as a > > conscious choice to free myself of the reliance on > effects, and it helped me > > to realize I could jettison all but the most basic > effects ( for me that is > > compression, overdrive, delay, and reverb) and still > get my music across. It > > was liberating, and when I finally ended my effects > sabbatical, it gave me > > new inspiration for using stuff I hadn't used in a > long time, Like filter > > effects, ring modulation and polyrhythmic delay. And > I've been through > > periods where I got sick of DADGAD, where I felt > played out in the tuning, > > but recently I have been using the approach where > I'll pick a mode I like > > and see how well I can voice that mode in a given > tuning, and that will open > > a compositional thread. For a long time I couldn't > break out of the > > > Blackmountainsidedaveygrahamceltic6/8reelyjiggydronytriplety > vibe that > > DADGAD is known for. But try voicing D or A harmonic > minor in that same > > tuning and it becomes a different thing altogether. I > think it is perfectly > > valid to use as many or as few tools as one needs to > find there musical > > bliss. Per was originally asking about tunings to > increase his range on the > > instrument, and of course we all mutated away from > that :) I don't think I > > belong to any kind of cool club by using alternate > tunings, but I got to > > agree with Bob Brozman on this one, what we call > standard tuning, for all we > > know, was an arbitrary decision. Viva La > difference!!!! > > Bill > > > > > > PS the chord was a result of trying to play close > piano voicing's in > > standard tuning, a result of a couple of lessons I > took from pianist Art > > Lande many many years ago, I think he thought I was > nuts:) I alternate the > > low E, and the C#, B, and A on the A string as an > alternating bass notes > > under the upper extensions of the chord, which is an E > major add 9 add 11. > > Then I do massage therapy on my hands for several > hours :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 01:43:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 569BB3BFAD; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235871800; bh=bTOiI4//JlJrAQk+KEhnZT5gtqg1dy0o+pijllFKoNA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3XThaiQb6/cRJigOt17NpD8MStx/tcawW+wOI6yqu5OHo8hHce8NSZLAEmi0yzctLl3R3gZPxNmod3HjI1mFB3KY0Blhr9ii/iawVq3Z6+pG9L0bKpn8XgU1HDe1djGCCGnte6iNYIxAdS8rHMevrVU28j6F+It8Dy15rzDw8TE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=10H6GnX+FhnIqY+XBpq32D22hyk55R2wfJ+K6kFy6ZGIfJ0bwiRQp55VS7WfTtppU2AyiCzcIdzZBktRhEl2XWIjIJexZqrWCxlzwZw3fasxDi+t3bjUV5esjTcwKh0ZXL0YraPNv2WxvJ7dL10VPLq59TJ/dcIMRs5tEhotT1c=; Message-ID: <375205.93148.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: V17zYYQVM1nMlzoBLkfABIegw6U5Y6wQQtKsysDnqOY58wFwpQXCOKcxcIlZWDr6ec8xc6eSOR9P.PNi1dqasE_7P9p2oSVoU0vJPDeIYIKomMiNJsmNL55cWM0f87iw3om4D3sp2lsk8eezmhgiPCfeobc1TsiX4PvY_RvBOC4RdcOa_lwm0ZX5Vk5bZOWbrGUwZOpn_cJ5KpLAtjH6y_rVmgGSgg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:43:20 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths/ my rant defending alt. tunings :-) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49A8A74A.5030501@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Does anyone know if bruce Cockburn used an open tuning on "Dust and Diesel= "? Can anyone give me the chords or lead me to the tablature? Thanx Rig --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths/ my rant defending alt. tunings = :-) > To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 6:54 PM > Whoa, I certainly wasn't claiming I'm more creative > or talented than anyone else - yikes!! Hell no! No offense > taken, but I wasn't putting myself above anyone who does > use different tunings. That's a nice list. (Not that > Keith Richards is exactly known for his solo work...). I > should have placed more effort in indicating that, for ME, > for what I'm interested in, I don't see a whole lot > of possibilities that can't be gotten at otherwise. BUT > I'm a nylon-string player. I might feel different if I > had a dreadnaught Taylor, or if I was inspired by the > English folk/American roots path that the soloists among the > people you mention generally spring from. (Mitchell's > Ellington fixation aside). I'm more inspired by jazz, > classical and flamenco players, where playing in alternate > tunings isn't part of a tradition, and moreover, would > be a real limitation in the case of improvising. >=20 > I invoked YouTube not to refer to these people, but the > current crop of folks who mainly take a few tricks from > Michael Hedges (another alt-tuner who I have tremendous > respect for) and go a-tapping and a-slapping all day long. I > don't wish to directly put down artists so I won't > name names, but if you search for Hedges videos, a few links > away you'll find the people I'm talking about. >=20 > cheers, >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 > > my friend, with all due respect to your post, why in > God's holy name would you use youtube as your evidence > of boring amateur alt. tuning solo guitarist's? I > assume you are NOT referring to John Fahey, Leo Kottke, Nick > Drake, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Richard Thompson, Jimmy > Page,John Renbourn, John Martyn, Chet Atkins, Sonic Youth, > Swervedriver, THE GREAT KEITH RICHARDS WHO WROTE MORE 3 > CHORD ROCK SONGS IN HISTORY IN OPEN G THAN ANYBODY HAS A > RIGHT TO--how in the world can THAT be limiting?? Pierre > Bensusan, Martin Carthy, Bruce Cockburn, Ry Cooder, David > Crosby? Hell even boring ass Eric Clapton and even more > boring Peter Frampton use alt. tunings!!! Are you more > creative than all these guitarist's both as a guitarist > and more importantly a composer in altered tunings? I > DON'T mean to be rude at all or disrespectful to you > sir, but I propose there are only limited minds, NOT limited > tunings!! :-) If you doubt my word on the above using > them they are all documented in Mark Hanson's excellent > book "The Complete Book of Alterate Tunings" =20 > peace my friend marc > >=20 > > /Marc Marshall/ > > // /"I am human, I am large, I contradict > myself"/ > > // /.....and then some / > >=20 > >=20 > > --- On *Fri, 2/27/09, Daryl Shawn > //* wrote: > >=20 > > From: Daryl Shawn > > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider > orchestration > > options > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 3:17 PM > >=20 > > With a heaping helpful of due respect to all those > whose alt-tuned playing I > > enjoy - and the distinct feeling that I'm a > lone fuddy-duddy here - I'm > > one of those resisters, though I did play in > nothing but altered tuning for a > > long time. For me, the advantage was the mental > breaking of ruts, but I found it > > was the wrong approach - treating the symptoms, > not the cause of the rut. > > I'd found myself always playing the same > things, but came to see that I was > > simply limited in the technique and knowledge I > had. Altered tuning threw away > > the experience I'd already gained, so I ended > up even quicker in a new rut - > > I was tuned DADGCF, so suddenly I started writing > everything in D minor. After > > five years, I switched back to standard, and > practice as often as I can in it, > > and haven't found myself in a rut (by my own > subjective analysis, of > > course...) since. The solution was increasing my > knowledge of the guitar, > > getting closer to the goal of making seamless the > division between self and > > instrument, able to play what I heard in mind, not > putting fingers down and > > finding new sounds by chance. > >=20 > > I dunno...if a sax player gets in a rut, do they > quickly switch to clarinet? Or > > do they practice different things, seek out new > music to listen to, find new > > playing opportunities to challenge the rut, which > is a mental construct anyway? > >=20 > > Honestly, I don't see a world of possibilities > in switching tunings. Sure, > > there's a big ringing resonance that one can > get with unisons or open > > octaves, but that already sounds played out to my > ears unless the composition is > > a good one. If you go on YouTube and watch the > scores of open-tuned solo guitar > > players, you'll see the easy temptations they > fall into - basing everything > > on a pedal note on the lowest open string, sliding > around the same chord > > position on the low strings with the high ones > ringing out, hitting the 12th and > > 5th fret harmonics compulsively in every damn tune > - because those tricks sound > > good, at an average and tired level of good. > >=20 > > Just my experience...YMMV (and probably already > has, I'm gathering!). > >=20 > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >=20 > > > I know many guitarists that resist open > tunings and I honestly don=E2=80=99t > > know why. They really open up another world of > possibilities and are a great way > > to take a break from standard tuning, if for no > other reason than to provide > > fresh perspective and break out of playing ruts. > > > > Bill > > >=20 > >=20 > > =20 > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 01:59:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F17223BFAD; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1235872764; bh=x5QIzdl28IrSVI8OoiNrY5/lqrsvVYt7e5j2v1Eux/o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2vqD1ejz/R7aL/eGg1ez2y03ht5N0VotRQ6RziDeDDMRDnjLxnTbcpRsGq54vuHeZi7bIM8WZrY5JfS1iegm0R18H/wvwhgjqm7KIeH+lmIxzPzC3uAxj3j0n3PIolFh/Cy51SdgG/rQHdvqeltp6baZpcXPgEU8VuwYfSwLqD8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=a43gTLElb5Vznt6sd65x4VlyRFKYJbDkNCJnqByua+UN6ix4hF6vpdWVVZeFtYuv180znvihmzTdJRhuu6r48tCcanZVlmc59onTHFIV/XT+jRhFYpzzJo8jhpCOJHWzW7wFmggTi8ko/wWfpW/Uoynj9PxpclOwLyn1toLBWl8=; Message-ID: <890450.22556.qm@web32703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wvVL0jIVM1mh89xSpOojvDDOLKMW3.455MVNeCcjuYpA7cxIk.RVKtaswXlWXqkdBuyKWmmUM9EJTJYpEqnRU6UqTGy.Kl7saHWyeDGqmaWcgelrAuFEAHkHovV0ilXPcuLSBxrbrwcyeK4xef5jmv6yzCoE0CstUQDMOLow5_PUEg_5UiJH3gd2hSBR6b_on0Gsq83vd9lcsccw2LbqPoYb9GXDtPM08c9FmGeM1Heu1zVrx5z_sVVyj5TG X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:59:24 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Reply-To: billbigrig@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49A84A4E.3030304@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9nfbqB.A.SPC.9veqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:59:25 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I knew a guitarist that one night, while we were on the road, had had a f= ew beers and went all hyper about different tunings and started showing off= all the ones he knew. EVERY alt. tuning he used was accompanied by the usu= al chords, slides, etc. What really impressed me though was the virtuosity = he displayed when breaking into lead lines, runs, fingered chords, and just= fast, melodic playing. It was highly educational. He proved to me that an = open tuning limits you only as much as you allow it. Rig --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 12:17 PM > With a heaping helpful of due respect to all those whose > alt-tuned playing I enjoy - and the distinct feeling that > I'm a lone fuddy-duddy here - I'm one of those > resisters, though I did play in nothing but altered tuning > for a long time. For me, the advantage was the mental > breaking of ruts, but I found it was the wrong approach - > treating the symptoms, not the cause of the rut. I'd > found myself always playing the same things, but came to see > that I was simply limited in the technique and knowledge I > had. Altered tuning threw away the experience I'd > already gained, so I ended up even quicker in a new rut - I > was tuned DADGCF, so suddenly I started writing everything > in D minor. After five years, I switched back to standard, > and practice as often as I can in it, and haven't found > myself in a rut (by my own subjective analysis, of > course...) since. The solution was increasing my knowledge > of the guitar, getting closer to the goal of making seamless > the division between self and instrument, able to play what > I heard in mind, not putting fingers down and finding new > sounds by chance. >=20 > I dunno...if a sax player gets in a rut, do they quickly > switch to clarinet? Or do they practice different things, > seek out new music to listen to, find new playing > opportunities to challenge the rut, which is a mental > construct anyway? >=20 > Honestly, I don't see a world of possibilities in > switching tunings. Sure, there's a big ringing resonance > that one can get with unisons or open octaves, but that > already sounds played out to my ears unless the composition > is a good one. If you go on YouTube and watch the scores of > open-tuned solo guitar players, you'll see the easy > temptations they fall into - basing everything on a pedal > note on the lowest open string, sliding around the same > chord position on the low strings with the high ones ringing > out, hitting the 12th and 5th fret harmonics compulsively in > every damn tune - because those tricks sound good, at an > average and tired level of good. >=20 > Just my experience...YMMV (and probably already has, > I'm gathering!). >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 > > I know many guitarists that resist open tunings and I > honestly don=E2=80=99t know why. They really open up another world > of possibilities and are a great way to take a break from > standard tuning, if for no other reason than to provide > fresh perspective and break out of playing ruts. > >=20 > > Bill > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 06:16:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE3813BF9B; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: To: References: <7B2752428A654566B0DF6C49BC17A18A@MichaelPC> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Free fractal music Software? Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:16:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 06:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Tony K, any info on Fractmus? It runs for a while- I get all excited and then it crashes... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" To: Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Free fractal music Software? some sites to explore.. http://homepage.ntlworld.com/doklands/fract.html http://www.brotherstechnology.com/math/fractal-music.html http://gingerbooth.com/courseware/fracmusic.html http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Haven/4386/ I've used the last one (FractMus) pretty cool stuff. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:09 PM, wrote: > Not free but too cool! http://tinyurl.com/buw7nl > I'm majorly diggin this... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mike@michaelplishka.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 12:30 AM > Subject: Free fractal music Software? > Anyone know any good, free fractal music software (not necessarily image > based)? > > ~peace~ > > > www.michaelplishka.com > www.zenstorming.com > www.scribbledmusings.com > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 07:54:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7D613BF9B; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49AA3F33.4080705@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:54:27 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 07:54:34 +0000 (UTC) I haven't read every post in this thread (so please forgive me if I missed a similar reply) but has anyone mentioned that a Violin is tuned in fifths because it is a very small instrument compared to an Upright Bass (tuned in fourths)? One can play some pretty beautiful and intense chords on a Mandolin or a Ukele for this same reason (long live Bill's 'Honey, I shrunk the guitar' guitar). On a normal scaled guitar, however, t's a long, long stretch (compared to a person like myself with smallish hands) from a fifth back to a third or minor third if the guitar is tuned in fifths. **************************** That being said and done: I just find that If I doodle around with a new tuning, open or otherwise that different melodic and harmonic themes will naturally pop out depending on the tuning. Martin Simpson talks about using the five standard simple guitar chordal shapes and just moving them around on the guitar in different tunings....................Songs just pop out of the guitar using this simple approach. I was teaching a bass student today and he was futzing around with my thrift store bought baritone ukelele which I have tuned to an open 7th chord. He's a much more sophisticated string player than me (I'm teaching him rhythmic studies) and he just was bringing amazingly beautiful things out of the uke (which sounds like some beautiful mixture of a toy plastic guitar and a nylon string classical guitar and not like a ukelele at all). I was just marvelling at how this simple four note tuning was producing such beautiful stuff. I think a fantastic guitarist can play anything on anything if they work it enough. For me , this discussion is mostly about creating new things to surprise and delight ourselves, compositionally. Rick Walker (I'm not a guitarist, but I play one on TV) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 08:15:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27B003BF95; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mike Crain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--109934019 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Live Looping: it pops up everywhere gone OT Xenakis Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:15:03 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:15:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--109934019 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit . . . . and perhaps I should say Red Fish Blue Fish is the Host percussion ensemble at University California San Diego. anyway . . . check it out if you can. Mike Crain Percussionist/Composer Sacramento, CA 95818 mike@mikecrain.com http://www.mikecrain.com http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by the partials will represent an appreciable contribution." - Edgard Varese --Apple-Mail-2--109934019 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  . . . . and perhaps I = should say Red Fish Blue Fish is the Host percussion ensemble at = University California San Diego.

anyway . . . check = it out if you can.


Mike Crain
Percussionist/Composer
Sacramento, CA = 95818
mike@mikecrain.com
Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be = revealed
will represent = an appreciable = contribution.  







= --Apple-Mail-2--109934019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 10:18:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5CCE3BF95; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <890450.22556.qm@web32703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:17:58 +0100 Message-ID: <004301c99a56$ff2835a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-index: AcmaT9YeZXbkjSVHS+mON3Qu2aaK6wABbG+Q In-Reply-To: <890450.22556.qm@web32703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.98; VDF: 7.1.2.96) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:18:00 +0000 (UTC) my 2 cents, about 20 years ago I felt totally stuck and frustrated with = my guitar style and technique. At this time I went to the first Guitar = Craft course in Germany and retuned my guitar to Fripp's new standard tuning (CGDAEG). I decided to throw away everything I could play and continue = with this new tuning exclusively. I started with Guitar Craft material and = slowly felt at home with this tuning. I then played in a cover band (Sting, = Dire Straits, Peter Gabriel and such) and I had to work hard to map all these tunes to the NST tuning. That was a good learning experience. Then last year, I got a nice half-acoustic Hagstr=F6m and out of a whim decided to = tune it in the classical EADGBE tuning. How exciting to rediscover the old tuning! How wonderful to be able to learn normal guitar pieces again! I finally own both tunings now. (Now many of my guitar craft friends have = been at home with both tunings for many years, but I seem to be a bit = slower.) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 10:27:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60E283BF97; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VJAzzriHPg9J7T6BhQmSrHNYNF4CZAqC2lJdBG2HBEU=; b=Wrs4mAgdjq7/+QcjUF8fXabUYrbvqCbuMv6L9RBqp4RgQV3UHknqQZjZ4Pw6UTTio3 gqzf2ZysfcKxrZXBnm/ClASEq2s/ciMjNkpW+/k1tVkVrqZZ52Nfb/pS77FqePhsraej 68ej30v7CemRexDcubbz1HW6Gd1s6H4eazfyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fD1SmV4lwuwXqHs98nw5cwC5XCrOEz8FUWIOX6fmzBoBC6Ytf9kQd0FFvK7ep3u7hA 1WCqhF7mLmtCGM4JHQOp/Vr+O2FmMUEsyfOqz8p4ThMP5fYmqA/i5jqiHasS3gSKE5vS aRIln5E8GENWEAPAvi6YuwOZ7900TkyqSaH34= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903010223gcdd2ba2n3b1ea47aa18de36@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A9D67D.5090906@post.cybercity.dk> <518740.71044.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903010223gcdd2ba2n3b1ea47aa18de36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:27:20 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903010227g641e5d7v6a2ab17e4b08ae34@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:27:21 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:40 AM, bill bigrig wrote: > =A0Isn't 5th tuning on a guitar pretty much just tuning it as if were a l= arger mandolin or violin? That's right! On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:27 AM, van Sinn wrote: > Exactly! =A0While alternate tunings are interesting, so is more strings ;= ) > I was set for a 7-stringer, but decided to wait it out till I can afford = an > eight or nine stringer. Well, for me buying a new instrument is not an option. But buying some thicker strings is something I can afford. So, many thanks to Ariel that posted suggestions for a suitable gauge in this tuning! And thanks to everyone else that answered the question. The thread really took off into a lot other interesting paths! Love this list :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 13:02:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A7FF3BFA6; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=6l/ULpqONuy/yMcYQyhL4z+NRUXvy6N97WGsOS0QV6li/kDG7rZ+j38fTZWF6d/J61MkN9gfH2A5nXYrmvIc6Y6lTYBbW0XFgKChIPcQwdyg7OFBTc68+1zYy2OZcitEtVJNdNE0ohuWmC2MTdG0WwiqMncoo5HRbVBVRg3GPuo=; X-YMail-OSG: j2Ce5ngVM1lQJQxNnf42QOC6sxKuU3MxE_BVg8iP2dqhtKiTPnziILVfRHWvB4yQwon8CiBWTyo_Xy8hx38lskubhNq2cEQMsiFjsiWu1HZ20Uc.Q1oABRMKyWn2lSbvsLnfoiHG8TLqF7sv4fM35AWq9D8N8Rr_XBRnfOmMlExG951P9sjOVGw2XXN0qg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 05:02:17 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49A9DC87.7070401@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <56644.43223.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:02:19 +0000 (UTC) actually the system was invented years ago before in the U.S. by trance performance,Jimmy Page,Graham Nash and others have been using this system succesfully for years,the German company just put this whole concept into tuning pegs instead of inside of the body of the guitar. However i ve read a lot of negative reviews on this new gibson prototypes and about the system being too expensive and not being really efficient and having major issues. I called the power tune company here in germany not long ago to ask them if they would consider developing this technology for acoustic guitar but they said thats something they will try to explore,although is much more complicated to develop for some reason.Trance performance however has already done it and brought out an acoustic guitar prototype that costs a fortune with the system inside(there was a video of Graham Nash commenting on it it but i lost the link) but it seems like a monstrous task and you would have to buy a guitar with it otherwise your precious acoustic will go through some major surgery!! but for me if any of this companies comes out with an efficient tuning peg system accesible for all acoustic guitars then it will be a dream come true!! Luis > > I can't understand why no one has successfully > invented a tuning peg that could auto tune your guitar. I > talked to Paul Smith (PRS) about this a while back and he > said it was because of the weight of the tuner changing the > tone of the guitar. But I think I saw that Gibson had one > coming out. > > It's available, wasn't invented by Gibson, but a > German. Gibson licenced it. I can poke the name/link. The > system is available for some Fender & Gibson > look/work-alike guitars. About a thousand euro, last I > checked. > There's the system made famous by Jimmy Page. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 13:42:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8AB83BF97; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 159049069/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.163.94/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.163.94 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ak0BADsfqklPTqNe/2dsb2JhbAAI1lmEGgaGUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,284,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="159049069" Message-ID: <49AA92A3.5060503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:50:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths/ my rant defending alt. tunings :-) References: <119655.6010.qm@web51506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49A8A74A.5030501@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <49A8A74A.5030501@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:42:14 +0000 (UTC) Daryl Shawn wrote: > BUT I'm a nylon-string player. Hmm, that's interesting. I also play a lot of nylon guitar, it was pretty much my main thing at one time. Only alt tunings I ever found appealing on it were dropped D for that nice bass note, or dropping the G to F# to play lute tab. With steel strings, I like the change in sound from changing the tension, but with nylon it doesn't inspire. I wonder how much of the appeal from alt tuning is the change in timbre, rather than the shifting around of notes. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 15:32:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26A6A3BF95; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49AAAC65.7090504@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:40:21 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options References: <56644.43223.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <56644.43223.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:32:53 +0000 (UTC) I haven't looked into either solutions for a long time: costs! 8-( However, I did wonder how micro-motor driven tuners on the headstock would stay stable, given that strings will be dragged over the nut. I'd think the Trans Performance system will be much more stable, as it features motor driven tuners as part of the bridge, i.e. akin to a headless tuner system. I once saw a vid of Page demonstrating the system; very impressive! Also, this system can hold a large number of tunings, whereas the tuner peg system can only do 5-7, IIRC. Whichever solution, it still means slacking and tensioning strings. I'm pretty sensitive to tension, so while a few 'nearby-related' tunings might work fine, retuning to quite varying systems seems less feasible. Two applications which might work really well would be a fretless guitar and a slide axe. Elsewhere in this really interesting thread, it was mentioned that certain tunings, open ones included, too easily leads to getting stuck in a groove That's how I feel about slide works; open-E soon gets immensily boring. Ability to retune between various open and whatever tunings on the fly *while* playing the slide.. now, that would be really interesting :nod: Dreams are the stuff life is made of... now, where's the money? L.Angulo wrote: > actually the system was invented years ago before in the U.S. by trance performance,Jimmy Page,Graham Nash and others have been using this system succesfully for years,the German company just put this whole concept into tuning pegs instead of inside of the body of the guitar. > However i ve read a lot of negative reviews on this new gibson prototypes and about the system being too expensive and not being really efficient and having major issues. > I called the power tune company here in germany not long ago to ask them if they would consider developing this technology for acoustic guitar but they said thats something they will try to explore,although is much more complicated to develop for some reason.Trance performance however has already done it and brought out an acoustic guitar prototype that costs a fortune with the system inside(there was a video of Graham Nash commenting on it it but i lost the link) > but it seems like a monstrous task and you would have to buy a guitar with it otherwise your precious acoustic will go through some major surgery!! > but for me if any of this companies comes out with an efficient tuning peg system accesible for all acoustic guitars then it will be a dream come true!! > Luis > > > >>>I can't understand why no one has successfully >> >>invented a tuning peg that could auto tune your guitar. I >>talked to Paul Smith (PRS) about this a while back and he >>said it was because of the weight of the tuner changing the >>tone of the guitar. But I think I saw that Gibson had one >>coming out. >> >>It's available, wasn't invented by Gibson, but a >>German. Gibson licenced it. I can poke the name/link. The >>system is available for some Fender & Gibson >>look/work-alike guitars. About a thousand euro, last I >>checked. >>There's the system made famous by Jimmy Page. Yikes, >>more memory losses. >> >> >>-- rgds, >>van Sinn > > > > > > > . > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 16:10:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 254F43BF99; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=wRJ0aU0a8NjB6IXHJ5NmLyXNjZbUhv0u57OmC/IoB1w=; b=HcVNRMWofr4A+5MI0sseCJBRvImqs4zBnnztA105TbNhXDj2XJkztjGqLTkAFb2BRL ZbVm8fnm5oBT/6ukhgXXmxOW4xgmkDy0pxOEbsDEFI93RRkx4rCpuVW9aXyiiq1jcATA 5MhJP3pRBDgFpWjx/fXQqPr3exrYnxSaNDcDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mcBU12IsaTzi7SzmTYMfl6ZDVzRb4mD50rj9WaHB0sTkTdj13BKb0OX7+wg7Z5Lity 2kkoJTUxzhj4g6n0PwPLuAVeZtXMzPQG2F9Wd+463Umk8XjbEiRQfj23Hl+lHKQ35l1T QkGT57PgWttIMKykswyAxAjx1oR7tRAXkcsj8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:04:20 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64714c4d67d1c046410da28 Resent-Message-ID: <-gTPsB.A.weG.9NrqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:10:38 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64714c4d67d1c046410da28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted with the world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their music entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting it here for download. For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I'm proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). 6 of the 18 trax are heavily looped. The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, tray and label graphics. Jim Goodin - Vertical I welcome your comments should you desire. Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played this year. Jim PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital --0016e64714c4d67d1c046410da28 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual February RPM Cha= llenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). = =A0For those not acquainted with the world wide web event, it is you might = say a personal/artistic sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several others, that c= hallenges musicians to create and release a CD of their music entirely done= in the month of February. =A0This is my 3rd year and 4th CD (in addition t= o my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst=A0for th= e 2007 RPM event) to produce through this event. =A0My 2009 RPM CD is title= d Vertical and I'm posting it here for download.

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and = I'm proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX = 2880). =A06 of the 18 trax are heavily looped.

The= link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, tray and labe= l graphics.

I= welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks f= or listening and again congratulations to all who played this year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned...


--0016e64714c4d67d1c046410da28-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 16:30:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D6FC3BF94; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1235925034; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=rRvk3Zj6I6+kk8teBrSRGS/OU6g=; b=po1jyBEnIF3PlaNaf7hljBLgDZySDwnE3p/cSKFFrWC+Rbc4vqAkZXgpOE7F1Zas N8KXcNCtUWsMXqOaM6VZxDawOD63UCfytP5mDFu5oJIem/YRXj5ROiR/cTMqs6Rg; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BBN4iAGjS9sA:10 a=FYYQydA7AAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=VTTnSA-9XNzfDWs79uAA:9 a=rWZqqbblww6z1UUdasEA:7 a=AgbwWuGtO7wqQxXyWCF8JAzP0osA:4 a=Q-HI_so7LLUA:10 a=kZDQ2csh-oYA:10 a=hPofd1mmkRAA:10 a=pufoRJSiRt4A:10 a=K8sKunsjz6wA:10 a=HKjzKo7LuBcA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=akHczQuEAAAA:8 a=E_yRJ_AoAAAA:8 a=l9qCn0o8AAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=WnIsvUKSbm84KS7QIwMA:9 a=CLbyncWw7UOOL_MZKVoA:7 a=UB7gR5q7dVHcK6bPNlUeRAdpWhEA:4 a=2c7NB83bEJEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:30:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99A61.2F436160" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:30:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99A61.2F436160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in though. I = can hardly wait to hear Vertical. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual February = RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted with the = world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic sort of = directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several others, = that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their music = entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and 4th CD = (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd = Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce = through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting = it here for download. For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I'm proud = to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). 6 of = the 18 trax are heavily looped. The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, tray = and label graphics. Jim Goodin - Vertical=20 I welcome your comments should you desire. Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played this = year. Jim PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... www.jimgoodinmusic.com=20 www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99A61.2F436160 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me = to an offer=20 to log in though. I can hardly wait to hear Vertical.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 = 11:04=20 AM
Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - = Vertical=20 released

Some you possibly joined me in participating in the = annual=20 February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). =  For those=20 not acquainted with the world wide web event, it is you might say a=20 personal/artistic sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several others, = that=20 challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their music = entirely done=20 in the month of February.  This is my 3rd year and 4th CD (in = addition to=20 my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd Chinapainting CD Trick of=20 Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce through this = event.=20  My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting it here for = download.

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I'm = proud to=20 say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880).  6 = of the 18=20 trax are heavily looped.

The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, = tray and=20 label graphics.

I welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played = this=20 year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse = project, stay=20 tuned...

www.chinapaintingmusic.com=
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindig= ital

------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C99A61.2F436160-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 16:52:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29D393BF89; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Rtzn+d7oL6yJM0z5DrLx5XIxCzlhZBd7e5Od6/BuWQk=; b=F+Z1j60iBMUO+IMl8Qoo2o35vYoRNtQ5WpW4a2Jo5KgOJY0xo4OzW6OxduWsSNrFbP yA3rBv372sVveSmvmYmX7FPOxrEU7den5bXmEP15CYoPkP8sMaKbVSfGDoI27DdTqp1H N8AtXlyF/aJ+uWXrhf9RoW20G9MRJGX40d4jE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=WsYunow7nsPQq27N/WLlbNF1EiI0UQcuuiWayZ2UZHOChWhx6BRfgKPQRALmDEX6WK 5M/CIW5mNp+yhMtBsIbq0Rqt6BzcQ/24x9xjtZUOqp+CdeMEdkfMds62Gj8+XRVw4WVJ C3htsGKbZYrNfvUPfLqmCmH14hSLdhLyzSFh4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364ec924b6481104641185b4 Resent-Message-ID: <0znn6C.A.BK.30rqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:52:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016364ec924b6481104641185b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first on GetDropBox. It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file transfer and synchronization between say their server (your account) and your primary/secondary computers. Jeff thanks in advance for giving a spin... On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in though. I can > hardly wait to hear Vertical. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM > *Subject:* RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > > Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual February RPM > Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted with the world > wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic sort of directive or > inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and > several others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of > their music entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and > 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd > Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for > the 2007 RPM event) to produce through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled > Vertical and I'm posting it here for download. > For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I'm proud to > say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). 6 of the 18 > trax are heavily looped. > > The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, tray and > label graphics. > > Jim Goodin - Vertical > > > I welcome your comments should you desire. > > Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played this year. > > Jim > > PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --0016364ec924b6481104641185b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first on GetDropBox= . =A0It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file transfer and= synchronization between say their server (your account) and your primary/s= econdary computers. =A0Jeff thanks in advance for giving a spin...

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke <= span dir=3D"ltr"><jeff_d@embarq= mail.com> wrote:
Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me = to an offer=20 to log in though. I can hardly wait to hear Vertical.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04= =20 AM
Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vert= ical=20 released

Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual= =20 February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). =A0For those=20 not acquainted with the world wide web event, it is you might say a=20 personal/artistic sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several= others, that=20 challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their music entirely d= one=20 in the month of February. =A0This is my 3rd year and 4th CD (in addition = to=20 my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd Chinapainting CD Trick of=20 Amethyst=A0for the 2007 RPM event) to produce through this event.=20 =A0My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting it here for down= load.

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I'm = proud to=20 say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). =A06 of = the 18=20 trax are heavily looped.

The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, tra= y and=20 label graphics.

I welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played thi= s=20 year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse project, stay=20 tuned...





--
The Acoustic World Guit= ar of Jim Goodin =A0- http://www.= jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
--0016364ec924b6481104641185b4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 17:03:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B878A3BF9B; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:03:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49AABECE.5070403@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:58:54 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for February 28, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:03:33 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090228.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #147 February 28, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [R. Gleisberg] Initiation Ceremony Sequences No. 5 VA [Haze] Dig Them Mushrooms Sequences No. 5 VA [Fonya] unknown Sequences No. 5 VA [R. S. Thompson] Starlight Sequences No. 5 Phrozenlight Wet Seasonic Autumn (none) Robert Rich and Zerkalo Part 6 Zerkalo (Faria) Faryus Synth.nl Stratosphere AtmoSphere (Groove) Syndromeda First Dream The Twilight Conjunction (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Rising Sun Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Phase II/Eclectic: Pre-empted to expand Phases I and III. Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Flamborough Daughters of Night Dante's Inferno (Musea) Head] VA [Colossus Inferno - Canto X Dante's Inferno (Musea) Project] Andrew Gorczyca From This Day Reflections - An Act of Glass Forward (ProgRock) Talisma Introssimo Quelque Part (Unicorn) Frost Dear Dead Days Experiments In Mass Appeal (InsideOut) Frost Falling Down Experiments In Mass Appeal (InsideOut) Unitopia Journey's Friend The Garden (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 17:18:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70ADE3BF95; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1235927888; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=kqbQAPQFaaciWGdfau7W8ne0bog=; b=pdNFFPFqlycR+Mf4Lg5+c4ekAcdBcMvC5JTmwUTST9jcCJ39b0vImXMAfTkH2r49 /zocMEJTZvh8nSfQpgnfK3/UwCtPAm3XK7CM1l27iCe4wUcpz0RLBl6s2dWHKdMZ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BBN4iAGjS9sA:10 a=FYYQydA7AAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=jzXCgf_h3TeNuwgqFVsA:9 a=A1sXmOXHlpIquW0BUx8A:7 a=36ZvK2zhUkThD76jRFxQLSaIfyQA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=akHczQuEAAAA:8 a=E_yRJ_AoAAAA:8 a=l9qCn0o8AAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=nirGjmYGminw__PgpfYA:9 a=BVSUMuVLixLMYyAZ8C8A:7 a=ByaHghrvBHmKbNwutsoWIC-MTHoA:4 a=2c7NB83bEJEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:18:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A67.D489CF00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:18:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A67.D489CF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. = Sorry for my lameness. Any tips? j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first on = GetDropBox. It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file = transfer and synchronization between say their server (your account) and = your primary/secondary computers. Jeff thanks in advance for giving a = spin... On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in though. = I can hardly wait to hear Vertical. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual = February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted = with the world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic = sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several = others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their = music entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and = 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd = Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce = through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting = it here for download.=20 For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I'm = proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). 6 = of the 18 trax are heavily looped. The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, = tray and label graphics. Jim Goodin - Vertical=20 I welcome your comments should you desire. Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played = this year. Jim PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... www.jimgoodinmusic.com=20 www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A67.D489CF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I joined, installed, got a dropbox and = I still=20 can't get that link. Sorry for my lameness. Any tips?
 
j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 = 11:52=20 AM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account = first=20 on GetDropBox.  It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for = file=20 transfer and synchronization between say their server (your account) = and your=20 primary/secondary computers.  Jeff thanks in advance for giving a = spin...

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends = me to an=20 offer to log in though. I can hardly wait to hear = Vertical.
----- Original Message ----- =
From: = Jim Goodin
To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, March 01, = 2009 11:04=20 AM
Subject: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Some you possibly joined me in participating in the = annual=20 February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com).  For those not = acquainted=20 with the world wide web event, it is you might say a = personal/artistic=20 sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine = and several=20 others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of = their=20 music entirely done in the month of February.  This is my 3rd = year=20 and 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our = 2nd=20 Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) = to=20 produce through this event.  My 2009 RPM CD is titled = Vertical and=20 I'm posting it here for download.=20

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and = I'm proud=20 to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). =  6 of=20 the 18 trax are heavily looped.

The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, = insert, tray=20 and label graphics.

I welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who = played this=20 year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned...

=




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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
= ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99A67.D489CF00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 17:23:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA12D3BFA0; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9GlkTJkFJtSw1vr9msgFyh1ZizG7MPyeTEZqLiwrP6Q=; b=ZDH/l4EqU2pjo5oBiItdgIpEboV1yiJvQSvzUEpXU7TQDcGtPuLjK4st8pK9iX4OMV sz9xxsnhYTkIgQTkd60vXFXuAMbNi6q3efFhO5BoGNpMuPPQcW3oGpyoHgnGwDyYiZXN P/rqaDRssC7akPPnA07CDXgF0yeslk2+LVuKY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bplg2bkNznWQ/3VPovf+J6nn7tIHBMCp4dEiWQ8dfK4Cg2ewkKO0lwT2eOmnd2zWE8 9e9CPOfWUCfbmhRYwA+KBJjEqKDyjms9pY+s8yPzVhnE+z9yqK+9CCm+7haXq2xenSWz +Ijb+s9nn+D5v3vKupLcNKifT9emh3oT/MbH8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49AA92A3.5060503@tiscali.co.uk> References: <119655.6010.qm@web51506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49A8A74A.5030501@mhorse.com> <49AA92A3.5060503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:23:17 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths/ my rant defending alt. tunings :-) From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163641689932aa16046411f56a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:23:19 +0000 (UTC) --00163641689932aa16046411f56a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andy ... in all my experience, you are only the 2nd person to mention the F# tuning for playing lute tab ... that was HOW I learned to play the lute before I got my lute! Good on you ... Best, Dennis (Recovering Lutenist, now Looping Guitarist) On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:50 AM, andy butler wrote: > Daryl Shawn wrote: > > BUT I'm a nylon-string player. >> > > Hmm, that's interesting. > I also play a lot of nylon guitar, it was pretty much my main thing > at one time. > Only alt tunings I ever found appealing on it were dropped D for > that nice bass note, or dropping the G to F# to play lute tab. > > With steel strings, I like the change in sound from changing the tension, > but with nylon it doesn't inspire. > > I wonder how much of the appeal from alt tuning is the change in timbre, > rather than the shifting around of notes. > > andy > > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --00163641689932aa16046411f56a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy ... in all my experience, you are only the 2nd person to mention the F= # tuning for playing lute tab ... that was HOW I learned to play the lute b= efore I got my lute!

Good on you ...

Best,

Dennis (Rec= overing Lutenist, now Looping Guitarist)

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 6:50 AM, andy butler = <akbutler@ti= scali.co.uk> wrote:
Daryl Shawn wrote:

BUT I'm a nylon-string player.

Hmm, that's interesting.
I also play a lot of nylon guitar, it was pretty much my main thing
at one time.
Only alt tunings I ever found appealing on it were dropped D for
that nice bass note, or dropping the G to F# to play lute tab.

With steel strings, I like the change in sound from changing the tension, but with nylon it doesn't inspire.

I wonder how much of the appeal from alt tuning is the change in timbre, rather than the shifting around of notes.

andy





--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
--00163641689932aa16046411f56a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 17:32:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70B773BFA6; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:32:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sB+opWLClgTtjlB/LAOVr8pfyU4bLtzOEVywLDGfG2w=; b=ezqli9Qg6+6Ka6wAE3gWwn0Hg37Y1xNEOENMCXOYEacTa6360yTYedqOVXUqz5pe8q nEFb0ensQ1GqIJJQSbyyN0OoJPEVQpp9o5C4NEbRJS0r2Uz2yD1XCDkOfUPHzo4W0ktq yrYvzsL1NFADXgJMZa6OSCezILD/yf5vpZVow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=iS9P1M4cMIFvgEoeWZ+8fEmwMKH53dSvslxlEdzeWCrMRpPT2vnsonpArs9fhp1bVB 5Jg2dBUS9u1x/REpKkoj4+dLEJFp78Vz0spFVnVZJjn3HLh0NNFV0D8CtRVO+nspjii7 3lmdCUe7G63Y6DgLGDEo+/EdFBOumRQBoTx6A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:32:43 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636284f22eb14cc04641216a9 Resent-Message-ID: <8D0_sD.A.chC.8asqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:32:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636284f22eb14cc04641216a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that painful as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just discovered how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you go. These should work... http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. Sorry > for my lameness. Any tips? > > j > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:52 AM > *Subject:* Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > > Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first on > GetDropBox. It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file transfer > and synchronization between say their server (your account) and your > primary/secondary computers. Jeff thanks in advance for giving a spin... > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > >> Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in though. I >> can hardly wait to hear Vertical. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jim Goodin >> *To:* loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM >> *Subject:* RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released >> >> Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual February RPM >> Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted with the >> world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic sort of >> directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazineand several others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of >> their music entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and >> 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd >> Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for >> the 2007 RPM event) to produce through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled >> Vertical and I'm posting it here for download. >> For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I'm proud to >> say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). 6 of the 18 >> trax are heavily looped. >> >> The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert, tray and >> label graphics. >> >> Jim Goodin - Vertical >> >> >> I welcome your comments should you desire. >> >> Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played this >> year. >> >> Jim >> >> PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... >> >> www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --001636284f22eb14cc04641216a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that painf= ul as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just = discovered how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you= go. =A0These should work...

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Cr= afty%20Afoot.mp3=A0
http://dl.getdropb= ox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3<= /div> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%= 20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg<= /div>
http:/= /dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg
=A0
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke &l= t;jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
I joined, installed, got a dropbox and= I still=20 can't get that link. Sorry for my lameness. Any tips?
=A0
j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin -= =20 Vertical released

Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account fi= rst=20 on GetDropBox. =A0It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for fi= le=20 transfer and synchronization between say their server (your account) and = your=20 primary/secondary computers. =A0Jeff thanks in advance for giving a=20 spin...

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends= me to an=20 offer to log in though. I can hardly wait to hear Vertical.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11= :04=20 AM
Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin -= =20 Vertical released

Some you possibly joined me in participating in the an= nual=20 February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). =A0For those not acquainted=20 with the world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artisti= c=20 sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several=20 others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their= =20 music entirely done in the month of February. =A0This is my 3rd year= =20 and 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2n= d=20 Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst=A0for the 2007 RPM event) to= =20 produce through this event. =A0My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and= =20 I'm posting it here for download.=20

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and I= 9;m proud=20 to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). = =A06 of=20 the 18 trax are heavily looped.

The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, insert,= tray=20 and label graphics.

Jim Goodin - Vertical=A0

I welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who played= this=20 year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned...



=

--
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MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http= ://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
Th= e=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com= =20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull=20 Guitars - htt= p://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com



--
The Acoustic World Guit= ar of Jim Goodin =A0- http://www.= jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
--001636284f22eb14cc04641216a9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 17:34:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BF2E3BF99; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:34:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49AAC726.8000701@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 11:34:30 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Jim Goodin Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:34:41 +0000 (UTC) You know, I believe with Dropbox that the folder needs to be specifically shared with the recipients, so it won't really work to share en masse, I'm realizing. There was a more open online storage system I can't recall now, I think Krispen sometimes put his files there. There's also Jamendo. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. > Sorry for my lameness. Any tips? > > j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 17:38:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 256563BF99; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001301c99a94$923abc90$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:38:45 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:38:26 +0000 (UTC) I'm afraid I can't get it to work either. It may be lameness on my part too, I'm really not sure. I'm really looking roward to hearing you new album though, Jim. I'm pleased to say that I managed to get my RPM Challenge album done in time too. I did the whole thing in three days and there is some DL4 looping on a couple of tracks, though I used it more for time saving purposes than in a creative way. It's called "rock and roll" and is more of a fun thing than a serious artistic statement. I'll get it uploaded somewhere for all to hear asap, maybe to Dropbox if I can work it out. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 5:18 PM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. Sorry for my lameness. Any tips? j From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 17:45:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 084293BFA6; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001f01c99a95$88f6f3a0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:45:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 17:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Fantastic! I'm listening to the first track now with a big grin on my face. You've got me hooked already. wonderful stuff. Steve Steve Moyes www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.creativemusic.blip.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Goodin Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that painful as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just discovered how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you go. These should work... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 18:00:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E5423BF92; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1235930431; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=M8RGiMa2rTK+W0vQF494aQP3Tp4=; b=OpVkSSXlkX/i9czr9ypv3etQaILyIHaCQQEvo4wsSwpj8/VOWqntXhWhpsO/Eh5T 6MiUVRLM47D6foQYm5Run3UnrGiQxmGalUbBZR5SluO4FSTtSfAZD0IJO9HAefGB; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BBN4iAGjS9sA:10 a=l9qCn0o8AAAA:8 a=FYYQydA7AAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=lW1DyR0J2T7kJwPBgLAA:9 a=W3A1tnbLk_v29O01X-cA:7 a=0rYAqHTR4L5owT_dKGVfR4pZP2gA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=JqzK7hVu6n4A:10 a=akHczQuEAAAA:8 a=E_yRJ_AoAAAA:8 a=UJR3I45lnkmOnJ75jdcA:9 a=d2vWeZhzmw8mfpxVDagA:7 a=TW4G2fTjB_C0DxWb3ONbhU1Q1pkA:4 a=2c7NB83bEJEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:00:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C99A6D.BFB765F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <1H-qB.A.Z3D._0sqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:00:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C99A6D.BFB765F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It allowed me to download the first track. (very nice!) and then claims = a security setting prevents me to download. I have worked around this by = copying each link to my browser instead of the email link and it works. = Great stuff, thanks. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that painful = as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just = discovered how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you = go. These should work... http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3=20 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John= %20Fahey%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Ap= palachia.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3= http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babe= s.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and= %20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%2= 0Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg =20 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. = Sorry for my lameness. Any tips? j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first on = GetDropBox. It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file = transfer and synchronization between say their server (your account) and = your primary/secondary computers. Jeff thanks in advance for giving a = spin... On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in = though. I can hardly wait to hear Vertical. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual = February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted = with the world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic = sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several = others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their = music entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and = 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd = Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce = through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting = it here for download.=20 For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and = I'm proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX = 2880). 6 of the 18 trax are heavily looped. The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, = insert, tray and label graphics. Jim Goodin - Vertical=20 I welcome your comments should you desire. Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who = played this year. Jim PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... www.jimgoodinmusic.com=20 www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published = by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C99A6D.BFB765F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It allowed me to download the first = track. (very=20 nice!) and then claims a security setting prevents me to download. I = have worked=20 around this by copying each link to my browser instead of the email link = and it=20 works. Great stuff, thanks.
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 = 12:32=20 PM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that = painful as=20 I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just = discovered how I=20 can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you go.  These = should=20 work...

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.m= p3 
http://dl.g= etdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3
http://dl.get= dropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%= 20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%= 20Telescope.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20t= he%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertic= al.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautil= us.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transm= ission%2C%20Over....mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7ani= yya.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within= %20Moments.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.= mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%2= 0Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.m= p3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20= of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%= 20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20= Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow= %201923.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Co= ver_Insert.jpg
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_La= bel.jpg
http://dl.ge= tdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg
 
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
I joined, installed, got a dropbox = and I still=20 can't get that link. Sorry for my lameness. Any tips?
 
j
----- Original Message ----- =
From: = Jim Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Sunday, March 01, = 2009 11:52=20 AM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Jeff and others I believe you have to create an = account=20 first on GetDropBox.  It's a great free within 2 gig usage = service=20 for file transfer and synchronization between say their server = (your=20 account) and your primary/secondary computers.  Jeff thanks = in=20 advance for giving a spin...

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff = Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Hey Jim, way to go, the link = sends me to an=20 offer to log in though. I can hardly wait to hear = Vertical.
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Jim Goodin
To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, March 01, = 2009=20 11:04 AM
Subject: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Some you possibly joined me in participating in = the=20 annual February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com).  For those not = acquainted with the world wide web event, it is you might say = a=20 personal/artistic sort of directive or inspiration hosted by = the Wire = magazine and=20 several others, that challenges musicians to create and = release a CD=20 of their music entirely done in the month of February. =  This is=20 my 3rd year and 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl = [Shawn] and I=20 did our 2nd Chinapainting CD Trick=20 of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce = through this=20 event.  My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting = it here=20 for download.=20

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice = and I'm=20 proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX = 2880).=20  6 of the 18 trax are heavily looped.

The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, = insert,=20 tray and label graphics.

I welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who = played=20 this year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned...

=




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace = (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapaintin= g=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting = on My=20 Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The = Jim=20 Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin = uses GHS=20 Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars = - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is = published=20 by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com


--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C99A6D.BFB765F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 18:22:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 650293BF89; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=kwtzgSnjwlMT2Kid3zdXhxnY0lqj6FDDvfkufWz0AUFCPPviSVSCN4LNmaXl9uxHlS3DJqTBjxvpbnC1iw5TdUnzqyVz5sNEVQyIkOshcIkuZQ+XsDzteZkM7KIyjUHcVUZpW6/0fFp56iOF1m024LBof3mfgF201uB1oxTFF8Y=; X-YMail-OSG: oNV28tgVM1l0xVbQJaG7iIoholWCPPd0ymszICK4.abDmKTVCkJ2JQDdvCdd6Dr06.SzYNaOTZkzaku0vBwMyW_sLMjbayl1_Jg7S9Ig.LZQcKKVdtJLoUO7uWdOeV5FinG84OfAqQAnczvG.nzcqAfQB52XuxbHGZO8OycHhitWiF1vf8QLUW75krTLjw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49AAAC65.7090504@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <384950.17571.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:22:57 +0000 (UTC) Brilliant quote Van! > Dreams are the stuff life is made of... now, where's > the money? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 18:32:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 611183BF66; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.127.248] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:32:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_038C_01C99A61.611633C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 18:32:26.0083 (UTC) FILETIME=[11CA8330:01C99A9C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:32:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_038C_01C99A61.611633C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Strange. I play a file and after a few seconds it mutes itself. I'll = try downloading instead. I have been using box.net for a few years. It = is a bit expensive, but I have 15gig of space. Plus it has a lot of = other features, like collaboration, streaming your MP3s from a folder = (no download required), sharing individual sharable or playable files, = links to facebook, etc. Kris ---- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that painful = as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just = discovered how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you = go. These should work... = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3 =20 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John= %20Fahey%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Ap= palachia.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3= http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babe= s.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and= %20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%2= 0Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg =20 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that = link. Sorry for my lameness. Any tips? j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first on = GetDropBox. It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file = transfer and synchronization between say their server (your account) and = your primary/secondary computers. Jeff thanks in advance for giving a = spin... On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in = though. I can hardly wait to hear Vertical. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual = February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted = with the world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic = sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several = others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their = music entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and = 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd = Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce = through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting = it here for download.=20 For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and = I'm proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX = 2880). 6 of the 18 trax are heavily looped. The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, = insert, tray and label graphics. Jim Goodin - Vertical=20 I welcome your comments should you desire. Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who = played this year. Jim PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... www.jimgoodinmusic.com=20 www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published = by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_NextPart_000_038C_01C99A61.611633C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Strange. I play a file and after a few = seconds it=20 mutes itself.  I'll try downloading instead.  I have been = using=20 box.net for a few years. It is a bit expensive, but I have 15gig of = space. Plus=20 it has a lot of other features, like collaboration, streaming your MP3s = from a=20 folder (no download required), sharing individual sharable or playable = files,=20 links to facebook, etc.

Kris
 
 
---- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 = 12:32=20 PM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that = painful as=20 I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just = discovered how=20 I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you go. =  These=20 should work...

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.m= p3 =20
http://dl.g= etdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3
http://dl.get= dropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%= 20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%= 20Telescope.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20t= he%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertic= al.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautil= us.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transm= ission%2C%20Over....mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7ani= yya.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within= %20Moments.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.= mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%2= 0Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.m= p3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20= of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%= 20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20= Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow= %201923.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Co= ver_Insert.jpg
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_La= bel.jpg
http://dl.ge= tdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg
 
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
I joined, installed, got a = dropbox and I=20 still can't get that link. Sorry for my lameness. Any = tips?
 
j
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Jim Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Sunday, March 01, = 2009 11:52=20 AM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Jeff and others I believe you have to create an = account=20 first on GetDropBox.  It's a great free within 2 gig usage = service=20 for file transfer and synchronization between say their server = (your=20 account) and your primary/secondary computers.  Jeff thanks = in=20 advance for giving a spin...

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff = Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Hey Jim, way to go, the link = sends me to=20 an offer to log in though. I can hardly wait to hear=20 Vertical.
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Jim = Goodin=20
To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Sunday, March = 01, 2009=20 11:04 AM
Subject: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Some you possibly joined me in participating = in the=20 annual February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com).  For those = not=20 acquainted with the world wide web event, it is you might = say a=20 personal/artistic sort of directive or inspiration hosted by = the Wire = magazine and=20 several others, that challenges musicians to create and = release a CD=20 of their music entirely done in the month of February. =  This is=20 my 3rd year and 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl = [Shawn] and=20 I did our 2nd Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM = event) to=20 produce through this event.  My 2009 RPM CD is titled = Vertical=20 and I'm posting it here for download.=20

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice = and I'm=20 proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology = (EHX=20 2880).  6 of the 18 trax are heavily looped.

The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, = cover,=20 insert, tray and label graphics.

I welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all = who=20 played this year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned...

=




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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace = (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapaintin= g=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting = on=20 My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The = Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim = Goodin uses=20 GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is = published=20 by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com


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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_NextPart_000_038C_01C99A61.611633C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 18:38:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45FDE3BF97; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002d01c99a9c$fef56300$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: RPM CD - Steve Moyes - rock and roll Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:39:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Greetings all, Below are links to all tracks and graphics from my first RPM Challenge cd "rock and roll". It's a not too serious attempt at various types of rock music, which is something I haven't played in over ten years. The track titles are a clue to what I was trying to acheive when I recorded them. Some are more successful than others. Electric guitar, sampled drums and Mellotron all played by me, quite badly at times. Also some bits of looping here nd there. I had fun doing this and hope you enjoy listening. Don't be afraid to laugh, I won't be offended! I hope the links work, I think leaving a space between them may help. Your comments would be most welcome. Steve http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/1.%20%20punk.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/2.%20prog.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/3.%20heavy%20metal.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/4.%20possibly%20post.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/5.%20grunge.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/6.%20psychedelic.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/7.%20three%20minute%20pop%20song.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/8.%20remix.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/rock%20and%20roll%20back.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/rock%20and%20roll%20front.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/rock%20and%20roll%20label.jpg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 18:41:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 281163BE92; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GbGu0majAK2LMosKCPhwPr/tvY1mMKs6ZwbLoUVIIdsFWQ6VSV0oFD0vkDZFVW9hFH5FH2Z91vn+4rlLaxjDmeKNLpJyvJEGbWcppsqoqAQjzC62GHCAgZgFAMZ/nSfeqTGXFfRdxTg1a0ADEMFOvtYHkZLeo1D1fGbmQiKHSPk=; X-YMail-OSG: NSusdGYVM1nxjh0wslTD7MJkChenOsFGw7dHQJUBHQRbI8kkgU1YB1wEZFnTUJklKguQSHRWmPK5gTpXZYX2Zvn_AZgWkbe7Oh1P0zRrutXpxdGRzdnhcq.Xou8oC5Sh4qZsQUvesb4o5e._vtC5GIvvxHUBMeV9maotuItGck6cOuNmN8682XVIQLcIG_U8Ywo- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 10:41:56 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Boomerang 3 release To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <119417.12416.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:41:56 +0000 (UTC) looks like it will soon > Hi all you patient and not so patient looping enthusiasts, > > It has been taking a looooooooooooooong time to finish > this pedal, > but it will be a fantastic looper. In > fact it already is with the current feature set. Completing > the > software has been the hold up for some time > now. There are only 2 features left to add and our > programmer is > working hard. The prototypes have all > features but those two! Release will hopefully be this > spring. > > We have all the parts to make a few hundred units. The > circuit > boards have all parts soldered on. Front > panel graphic overlays have been received. Steel chassis > have been > received. Everything is in place. The hold > up is finishing the software which has proven to be quite > complex. > If we had the software today, I could ship about 400 > units within a month! > > Here's what we have so far: > * Serial Play Style - loops play one after the other like > the Rang(TM) Plus > * Serial Master Play Style - see description below > * 3 or 4 loops, your choice > * stacking with undo/redo - "stacking" is adding > parts to a loop > * erase one or all loops - a loop can be erased while > another plays > * copy loop - a loop can be copied whether it is playing or > not > * copy live - this enables "re-sampling" and is > very powerful; the > pedal's output is routed to a new loop > * octave - loop plays at half speed and an octave lower > * reverse - loop plays backwards > * once - loop plays one time through then stops or stops at > its end if > already playing > * fade - loops fade in or out with one button press; fades > can be > approx 2 to 42 seconds long > * reverse solo - this is an effect and enables you to > create reverse leads live > * 48KHz or 24KHz sample rate with 20 bit samples > * through signal is always 48KHz sample rate with 24 bit > samples > * Thru Mute function > * Playback master volume control with an expression pedal > * Dedicated loop playback volume knob > * Dedicated loop decay rate knob - the rate at which > earlier parts > fade when new ones are added > * stereo or mono recording and playback > * Smart jacks - the III senses which jacks are being used > and provides > different signal routing options > > Sync in Serial Play Style (Serial Master Play Style) > There are 2 types of sync. One is a "normal" > sync - all loops can > play at once, there is a master that is > recorded first, all loops are multiples of the master. This > is the > Sync Play Style. > But there is another cool type of sync in the Serial > Play Style > where one loop is played after the other, > the verse, chorus, bridge type of use. If loop 3 is > recorded first, it > will be the master, otherwise it's just > another loop and there is no master. If loop three is > master, then it > can play with the other loops. It's the > only loop that can play along with the other loops. > So at one time you can play 1 & 3, 2 & 3, 4 > & 3, but not 1 & 2. > Remember this is serial play style where > the loops play one at a time... with the exception of the > master. I > hope this isn't too confusing. > Here's the purpose. For serial style loopers > it's nice to have a > rhythmic background behind the melodic > loops. Mute the strings and record a short > "chika-chika" or beat on > the sides of your acoustic axe. > > What's left to do: > = Sync Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and > are synced > so they stay together > = Free Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and > are NOT > synced; this is great for ambient sounds > > The software still isn't complete, but we've > decided to sell > pre-production units to interested players. The features > listed above > are all working with only a few bugs yet to fix. > Essentially what > you'll get is a Boomerang(R) III looper less the Sync > and Free Play > Styles. > The purchaser will receive the final production > software and user > manual when complete, but there is no commitment on our > part to a > specific delivery date. It's done when it's done. > The software will be > delivered as a MIDI file attached to an email. Uploading is > accomplished by playing the file in a MIDI player on your > computer > with the output routed through a USB/MIDI interface and on > to the III > with a MIDI cable. > If the customer doesn't have the means to > accomplish this, then > the unit must be returned to have the software installed. > In that > case, the customer will pay for all shipping expenses, both > ways. This > will most likely run from $20 to $30 in the lower 48. > We will charge what we expect the "street" > price to be, $439. > Shipping will be additional and should be around $15. > Holler if this > interests you. > > ---------- > > Mike Nelson > Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. > General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > > ---------- > > "Some products make you sound better; > the Boomerang(R) Phrase Sampler makes you play > better." > > ---------- > > 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-251-8737, Outside USA * > 1-817-251-8509, Fax > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com > > Shipping Address for Repairs: > Boomerang > 1516 Victoria Drive > Denton, TX 76209 > > Billing Address: > Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. > PO Box 3788 > Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > www.luis-angulo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 18:43:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 576A93BE92; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:43:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1235932997; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=0t6CyPO80/HO4ypEyEbr+RECeZ0=; b=jx1McehHBSb474Egp4RlVxulz+3sNuANzQ6KyCy+0LV3NJufBolfcN7CVGhD9954 Uoc7Ad7dFG9NRDz4B8LZyG5scwELTh2El2zemgr5GHwNU4dHWmxYASwp9e/eyd1u; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BBN4iAGjS9sA:10 a=l9qCn0o8AAAA:8 a=FYYQydA7AAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=4GIuB1h1rR0VgGWtO38A:9 a=ZndhBMdC-5eqFRS4RegA:7 a=WxVnNNwhYmnOdknxWFdgMpQZ4-UA:4 a=Nl17zUePOAwA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=dEq9-TpMAPpdWb7-p9gA:9 a=-l3IdVpM9zffhmKH6Z4A:7 a=jtz-2oiTK7_vaMjtcujAwI5HRs8A:4 a=2c7NB83bEJEA:10 a=e-3C3WCX3FMA:10 a=gWFizGIvZVQA:10 a=BAJq6lBvVEoA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001d01c99a9d$a2daefd0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:43:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99A73.B98D94F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 18:43:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99A73.B98D94F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the free box.net account and it won't let me upload a big zip but = it will allow me to upload all the files in it one at a time to a folder = which can then be downloaded complete or streamed/downloaded = individually. It works pretty well. I don't have near that much space = though. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Strange. I play a file and after a few seconds it mutes itself. I'll = try downloading instead. I have been using box.net for a few years. It = is a bit expensive, but I have 15gig of space. Plus it has a lot of = other features, like collaboration, streaming your MP3s from a folder = (no download required), sharing individual sharable or playable files, = links to facebook, etc. Kris ---- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that = painful as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just = discovered how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you = go. These should work... = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3 =20 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John= %20Fahey%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Ap= palachia.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3= http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babe= s.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and= %20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 = http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%2= 0Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg =20 On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that = link. Sorry for my lameness. Any tips? j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first = on GetDropBox. It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file = transfer and synchronization between say their server (your account) and = your primary/secondary computers. Jeff thanks in advance for giving a = spin... On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in = though. I can hardly wait to hear Vertical. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual = February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted = with the world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic = sort of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several = others, that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their = music entirely done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and = 4th CD (in addition to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd = Chinapainting CD Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce = through this event. My 2009 RPM CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting = it here for download.=20 For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice = and I'm proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX = 2880). 6 of the 18 trax are heavily looped. The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, = insert, tray and label graphics. Jim Goodin - Vertical=20 I welcome your comments should you desire. Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who = played this year. Jim PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... www.jimgoodinmusic.com=20 www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published = by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published = by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99A73.B98D94F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use the free box.net account and it = won't let me=20 upload a big zip but it will allow me to upload all the files in it one = at a=20 time to a folder which can then be downloaded complete or = streamed/downloaded=20 individually. It works pretty well. I don't have near that much space=20 though.
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 = 1:32=20 PM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Strange. I play a file and after a = few seconds it=20 mutes itself.  I'll try downloading instead.  I have been = using=20 box.net for a few years. It is a bit expensive, but I have 15gig of = space.=20 Plus it has a lot of other features, like collaboration, streaming = your MP3s=20 from a folder (no download required), sharing individual sharable or = playable=20 files, links to facebook, etc.

Kris
 
 
---- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, March 01, = 2009 12:32=20 PM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim = Goodin -=20 Vertical released

Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that = painful=20 as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just = discovered=20 how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you go.=20  These should work...

http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.m= p3 =20
http://dl.g= etdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3
http://dl.get= dropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%= 20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%= 20Telescope.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20t= he%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertic= al.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautil= us.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transm= ission%2C%20Over....mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7ani= yya.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within= %20Moments.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.= mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%2= 0Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.m= p3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20= of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%= 20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20= Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow= %201923.mp3
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Co= ver_Insert.jpg
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_La= bel.jpg
http://dl.ge= tdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg
 
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff = Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
I joined, installed, got a = dropbox and I=20 still can't get that link. Sorry for my lameness. Any = tips?
 
j
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Jim Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Sunday, March 01, = 2009=20 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: RPM CD - = Jim Goodin=20 - Vertical released

Jeff and others I believe you have to create an = account=20 first on GetDropBox.  It's a great free within 2 gig = usage=20 service for file transfer and synchronization between say = their server=20 (your account) and your primary/secondary computers. =  Jeff thanks=20 in advance for giving a spin...

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff = Duke=20 <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> = wrote:
Hey Jim, way to go, the = link sends me=20 to an offer to log in though. I can hardly wait to hear=20 Vertical.
----- Original Message = -----
From: Jim=20 Goodin
To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =
Sent: Sunday, March = 01, 2009=20 11:04 AM
Subject: RPM CD - = Jim Goodin=20 - Vertical released

Some you possibly joined me in = participating in the=20 annual February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com).  For those = not=20 acquainted with the world wide web event, it is you might = say a=20 personal/artistic sort of directive or inspiration hosted = by the=20 Wire = magazine=20 and several others, that challenges musicians to create = and=20 release a CD of their music entirely done in the month of=20 February.  This is my 3rd year and 4th CD (in = addition to my=20 solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd Chinapainting CD = Trick of Amethyst for the 2007 = RPM event)=20 to produce through this event.  My 2009 RPM CD is = titled=20 Vertical and I'm posting it here for download.=20

For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, = voice and=20 I'm proud to say for this list's interest, looping = technology (EHX=20 2880).  6 of the 18 trax are heavily looped.

The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, = cover,=20 insert, tray and label graphics.

I welcome your comments should you desire.

Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all = who=20 played this year.

Jim

PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned...

=




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =  -=20 http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace = (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapaintin= g=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The = Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim = Goodin uses=20 GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin = is=20 published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com


--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com = and Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= =20 Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99A73.B98D94F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 19:47:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ADE23BFA2; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:47:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=BV3yIzhKUKblsy2HcxWqx6TB1jvIWQsRwMqqEG9CXs4=; b=Cji2hwVvvSvSyNaxPzNHEFeZO6XuUlG+FBkJHMOZYT39qNDCeJznWLLUHWoqsHUffO abG+ShdPGc7eKENwJdhVzmg64cmm1BZAJIadxcJxKokJ28kOiPzbEHvVnL+zzTrr0dR+ qvKzS/2TvXNkJ88RVQ5n7FWYZac7IoEQHvUjU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PcXmD4UJPsxsYBCPNWpFbY7CvLncWDEgIwA1T6VZpzOCosjJ4vkqd6l+tVkObGiBNJ OYElI5b4yRfhEK6q6i4uoaR0ZyfZWREEhXgiRf1/lM0eHOOMvv+3RBRelt87+EtCowEB KGxCMkgYJiWoH26WHfRT4U/YQiQPCuC5ZQ45Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001d01c99a9d$a2daefd0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <001d01c99a9d$a2daefd0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:47:57 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903011147v1f4214d2h9df3442848c6bcd9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:47:57 +0000 (UTC) I'm really sorry so far everyone has had some trouble from GetDropBox. Its strange as for other things done the last few months its done so well such as the hopefully soon to be rel'd ReUse record. The diff may be getting membership done and installed first but I relize that's a bit of a 'oh you mean I gotta do that too!' And it sounds like the non-mem links were equally painful so that's a drag. I do apprec everyone who has tried and Stephen I think you were successful but you were already a member (thx for the pos words and will chk yours out soon). I could have just put on my dot.com as was suggested but trying tov avoid tying space there andx have really liked gdb. That said let me reconsider reposting elswhere maybe box.net as kris/jeff have said and for anyone else. Again thx for trying. J On 3/1/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > I use the free box.net account and it won't let me upload a big zip but it > will allow me to upload all the files in it one at a time to a folder which > can then be downloaded complete or streamed/downloaded individually. It > works pretty well. I don't have near that much space though. > > Jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Krispen Hartung > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 1:32 PM > Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > > > Strange. I play a file and after a few seconds it mutes itself. I'll try > downloading instead. I have been using box.net for a few years. It is a bit > expensive, but I have 15gig of space. Plus it has a lot of other features, > like collaboration, streaming your MP3s from a folder (no download > required), sharing individual sharable or playable files, links to facebook, > etc. > > Kris > > > ---- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Goodin > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > > > Jeff and anyone else who tries, I didn't realize it was that painful > as I've used this before but it's a bit to go through so I just discovered > how I can make them public better for non-DBer's so here you go. These > should work... > > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Jeff Duke > wrote: > > I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. > Sorry for my lameness. Any tips? > > j > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Goodin > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:52 AM > Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > > > Jeff and others I believe you have to create an account first on > GetDropBox. It's a great free within 2 gig usage service for file transfer > and synchronization between say their server (your account) and your > primary/secondary computers. Jeff thanks in advance for giving a spin... > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Jeff Duke > wrote: > > Hey Jim, way to go, the link sends me to an offer to log in > though. I can hardly wait to hear Vertical. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jim Goodin > To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:04 AM > Subject: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > > > Some you possibly joined me in participating in the annual > February RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com). For those not acquainted > with the world wide web event, it is you might say a personal/artistic sort > of directive or inspiration hosted by the Wire magazine and several others, > that challenges musicians to create and release a CD of their music entirely > done in the month of February. This is my 3rd year and 4th CD (in addition > to my solo CD, Daryl [Shawn] and I did our 2nd Chinapainting CD Trick of > Amethyst for the 2007 RPM event) to produce through this event. My 2009 RPM > CD is titled Vertical and I'm posting it here for download. > > > For Vertical I used fretless guitar, oud, violin, voice and > I'm proud to say for this list's interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). 6 > of the 18 trax are heavily looped. > > > The link which is a ZIP bundle includes the trax, cover, > insert, tray and label graphics. > > > Jim Goodin - Vertical > > > I welcome your comments should you desire. > > > Thanks for listening and again congratulations to all who > played this year. > > > Jim > > > PS next up the ReUse project, stay tuned... > > > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - > http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and > Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by > Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - > http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 19:56:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB5ED3BFA6; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=wr8r7xiAOzoS0qAHtKUlpGgp8fghCe0g6gOeCUsjMkxJN35AjBU7O9FnQ+cdoT0cXo5R9Lj6HCiI0aC4JEojtI37A0oRX2O/6Cx03rAoumQ20pGyiF9pinZZOjOrqv9rCH7F2+a+/fB/Odc14O+hDNU6YNQbTPnZ59nxsvo/3KU=; X-YMail-OSG: wZCIkOwVM1nD3D31AqZAsypsxiFEF60uFc0ru2D9kDMxMdaSo9w_KOpH40OBHt9ajK.3JCWCnKjzwOSckKcAX6AhazH4_mlUW_GoxxQVAd7e2a0CYY0EoZO1embjej_Sbm5QeSxY2F56rpG1_QWwO_7I7fMfRV9QBaS39ksH7f.jptmDL653ZN34K8rPAtKKOQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 11:56:24 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RPM CD - Steve Moyes - rock and roll To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002d01c99a9c$fef56300$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <980682.65776.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 19:56:25 +0000 (UTC) very nice stuff Stephen! i really like the mellotron sounds wha are u using plug in or real deal? i lso like the guitar sounds and the drums sound quite realistic at times as well! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Stephen Moyes wrote: > From: Stephen Moyes > Subject: RPM CD - Steve Moyes - rock and roll > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 10:39 AM > Greetings all, > > Below are links to all tracks and graphics from my first > RPM Challenge cd "rock and roll". It's a not > too serious attempt at various types of rock music, which is > something I haven't played in over ten years. The track > titles are a clue to what I was trying to acheive when I > recorded them. Some are more successful than others. > Electric guitar, sampled drums and Mellotron all played by > me, quite badly at times. Also some bits of looping here nd > there. > > I had fun doing this and hope you enjoy listening. > Don't be afraid to laugh, I won't be offended! I > hope the links work, I think leaving a space between them > may help. > > Your comments would be most welcome. > > Steve > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/1.%20%20punk.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/2.%20prog.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/3.%20heavy%20metal.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/4.%20possibly%20post.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/5.%20grunge.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/6.%20psychedelic.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/7.%20three%20minute%20pop%20song.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/8.%20remix.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/rock%20and%20roll%20back.jpg > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/rock%20and%20roll%20front.jpg > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283313/rock%20and%20roll/rock%20and%20roll%20label.jpg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 20:03:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F84D3BFB4; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001401c99aa8$dbdc9760$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <001d01c99a9d$a2daefd0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903011147v1f4214d2h9df3442848c6bcd9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:03:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <9Jj4NC.A.n_.aouqJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:03:38 +0000 (UTC) At first I could only get the first track to work, but I found that the others were ok if I copied and pasted the link into my browser. Then I tried forwarding your email to myself with space between the links and they seem to work properly that way. Try this . . . Jim's album: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 20:13:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11DAD3BFBD; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U9695/HAT5z0Nbk7KDxc2fhsUQGZQARvB7VPXuJbRpc=; b=AwZFChgFi62hzMsXEA3KDkPXjQrfIhE3amYxbuw6Cw+qTkG8gi0OY8lM7z+2uZ9pxO KmJMzSBrRmyvUF91BSMeVwcezM2Ob9XIhE2VPN9Dps2w064Wrt4Wc7wTdicicEvs5Jl7 81FYZhdk6ft8XSXFe/zLMxZ5IwEo12O9uicPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=h0oc6ozwxZ9M/SyzkyPIRKW5RcEGj17ODsq0MMjvbj+/LaaufGrUbL4u0X9cL3Zj0K 5HAfAb8wSX4XCksFIvTcMI5gCTzW3JI8PRX2ZXqLUghSXyysaTBLYyEhthVAAHmWth2r JxZO9lyT1QdpLTv74iEBQUGZdq3Ld332dVd0Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001401c99aa8$dbdc9760$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <001d01c99a9d$a2daefd0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903011147v1f4214d2h9df3442848c6bcd9@mail.gmail.com> <001401c99aa8$dbdc9760$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 15:13:34 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903011213o7c12fcfbg9176e2e673e1cfcc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:13:34 +0000 (UTC) Gee stephen thanks an awful lot sir. Again sorry this was laboring to all, maybe stephens edit links will work well - I'll still look into setting an upload on box.net though the simpler solution is put on jimgoodinmusic so tell you what will do that, rewind the tape and pretend none of this ever happened. Stay tuned. J On 3/1/09, Stephen Moyes wrote: > At first I could only get the first track to work, but I found that the > others were ok if I copied and pasted the link into my browser. Then I tried > forwarding your email to myself with space between the links and they seem > to work properly that way. Try this . . . > > Jim's album: > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 20:23:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED07D3BFBD; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002c01c99aab$abeeaa40$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <001d01c99a9d$a2daefd0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903011147v1f4214d2h9df3442848c6bcd9@mail.gmail.com> <001401c99aa8$dbdc9760$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <9e0440a60903011213o7c12fcfbg9176e2e673e1cfcc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Steve Moyes - rock and roll Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:24:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for listening, Luis. I'm glad you enjoed it. Sadly I don't have a real Mellotron. If I did I think I would make the effort to learn to play it a bit better than that! It's actually a Reason refill called Mello T made by Sonic Reality. It's the only thing I use Reason for. I hope you are also managing to listen to Jim's album. It really is absolutely wonderful. Cheers, Steve Steve Moyes www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.creativemusic.blip.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" To: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 7:56 PM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Steve Moyes - rock and roll > very nice stuff Stephen! i really like the mellotron sounds wha are u > using plug in or real deal? i lso like the guitar sounds and the drums > sound quite realistic at times as well! > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 20:24:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4E043BFA6; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ITLuORRHf9qFBJLP+Vy6jFFYdUvNAWgH+yQa94STGBI=; b=tdOVxBNjd4giuf1Bey2su2ZPUjgnkZK9pvVgS4k5HjCZpt7BKdc3AmgfKtGlJAyDv9 0gMrjZU6EgIzGCdtBRpjHz367d3yH3b1+Dh7wvDevX9zTZ6xOLBJJQ7jzFQbiNAxyH2M A5TLB5skvpgcBkLXa/zwAZmFBXPqo8zsuhrKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=DoJ1wPoi+vJp82JzsMfWAtFpb3ExyPlPAxAZaqYxUBQFv/8lT2ZcfeL3BliczyCcKZ f/cSsBfTqR0K0N05aGBg+x4Zz4CuQoyGaQEGxFb8TgBjKbykBGl8LwXubFdGcNm0TsD0 8eZJ5VTVPvNZnVg+Aqz+9tWvQcFeCNoKCMKjY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60903011147v1f4214d2h9df3442848c6bcd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010932i51d85b9do5218488280fc583f@mail.gmail.com> <002c01c99a97$a8f3f7f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <001d01c99a9d$a2daefd0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903011147v1f4214d2h9df3442848c6bcd9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2C87C733-48C3-4191-B205-9021AABA0B2C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:24:01 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:24:07 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 1, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > That said let > me reconsider reposting elswhere maybe box.net as kris/jeff have said > and for anyone else. There is also: http://www.savefile.com/index.php They delete the files after a period of no downloads, 2 weeks I think, unless you pay for premium service. But it is good for getting stuff out there short term. BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 20:45:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FBDB3BFBD; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=kIGYbP3nOHA2QxIyP55G5kDqeFkONvyjGi/NBCa0QKK7BihgiS43A8rkLn+zJ+cKVnwOD5RD4x4DmbyxIzFIy41hRGxN9CCbAr1lmXwdx1Dhu9Sn8Xv4dYzB5OpiRDSdsxgUIQweINixQ3cO2AzqA261SvecdpXuZTWQZ6BqRNs=; X-YMail-OSG: XCKuaHgVM1lBT6EOMMhoLW.PrC_3OloGxJpDj2V7BWKQ58TpfGomFnE82q0oQREp2oduRCAXrA3kLfpk9GzZZPU0T8il1rV53fhWESAZ6aHlXgnwoZPNvPVe4D3Xz6Hq2lfqVNbitWyj3jDLYUAvnAI6mEQKDEFSIjUI0aG_0r0GC3OE01MQkrzyJUB.raKGvTc- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:45:02 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths/ my rant defending alt. tunings :-) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49A8A74A.5030501@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <237193.72290.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:45:02 +0000 (UTC) sorry to keep bringing this guy,the great songwriter Jose Gonzales uses ope= n tunings on a nylon string also check out Fink beautiful nylon string open= tuning composition. But i think i know what u mean Daryl,as we say in spanish,"lo que importa e= s la pluma" composition is the key not the tuning.I also use a lot of open = tunings but i share some of your feelings...this modal open tuning steel st= ring trend has become very technical and gymnastic oriented,what starts as = an inocent experiment becomes either poorly imitated or too refined and tec= hnical which i personally loose interest in.I asked myself why when i hear = tunes with open tunings like David Crosbys Deja vu,Guinevere,or Jimmy Pages= Bron y aur,friends,4 and 20 by stephen stills etc. they still turns me on = more that some of that more technical youtube open tuning stuff,then i soon= realized that perhaps because...well now it just sounds like an open tunin= g:-) www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths/ my rant defending alt. tunings = :-) > To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 6:54 PM > Whoa, I certainly wasn't claiming I'm more creative > or talented than anyone else - yikes!! Hell no! No offense > taken, but I wasn't putting myself above anyone who does > use different tunings. That's a nice list. (Not that > Keith Richards is exactly known for his solo work...). I > should have placed more effort in indicating that, for ME, > for what I'm interested in, I don't see a whole lot > of possibilities that can't be gotten at otherwise. BUT > I'm a nylon-string player. I might feel different if I > had a dreadnaught Taylor, or if I was inspired by the > English folk/American roots path that the soloists among the > people you mention generally spring from. (Mitchell's > Ellington fixation aside). I'm more inspired by jazz, > classical and flamenco players, where playing in alternate > tunings isn't part of a tradition, and moreover, would > be a real limitation in the case of improvising. >=20 > I invoked YouTube not to refer to these people, but the > current crop of folks who mainly take a few tricks from > Michael Hedges (another alt-tuner who I have tremendous > respect for) and go a-tapping and a-slapping all day long. I > don't wish to directly put down artists so I won't > name names, but if you search for Hedges videos, a few links > away you'll find the people I'm talking about. >=20 > cheers, >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 > > my friend, with all due respect to your post, why in > God's holy name would you use youtube as your evidence > of boring amateur alt. tuning solo guitarist's? I > assume you are NOT referring to John Fahey, Leo Kottke, Nick > Drake, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Richard Thompson, Jimmy > Page,John Renbourn, John Martyn, Chet Atkins, Sonic Youth, > Swervedriver, THE GREAT KEITH RICHARDS WHO WROTE MORE 3 > CHORD ROCK SONGS IN HISTORY IN OPEN G THAN ANYBODY HAS A > RIGHT TO--how in the world can THAT be limiting?? Pierre > Bensusan, Martin Carthy, Bruce Cockburn, Ry Cooder, David > Crosby? Hell even boring ass Eric Clapton and even more > boring Peter Frampton use alt. tunings!!! Are you more > creative than all these guitarist's both as a guitarist > and more importantly a composer in altered tunings? I > DON'T mean to be rude at all or disrespectful to you > sir, but I propose there are only limited minds, NOT limited > tunings!! :-) If you doubt my word on the above using > them they are all documented in Mark Hanson's excellent > book "The Complete Book of Alterate Tunings" =20 > peace my friend marc > >=20 > > /Marc Marshall/ > > // /"I am human, I am large, I contradict > myself"/ > > // /.....and then some / > >=20 > >=20 > > --- On *Fri, 2/27/09, Daryl Shawn > //* wrote: > >=20 > > From: Daryl Shawn > > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider > orchestration > > options > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 3:17 PM > >=20 > > With a heaping helpful of due respect to all those > whose alt-tuned playing I > > enjoy - and the distinct feeling that I'm a > lone fuddy-duddy here - I'm > > one of those resisters, though I did play in > nothing but altered tuning for a > > long time. For me, the advantage was the mental > breaking of ruts, but I found it > > was the wrong approach - treating the symptoms, > not the cause of the rut. > > I'd found myself always playing the same > things, but came to see that I was > > simply limited in the technique and knowledge I > had. Altered tuning threw away > > the experience I'd already gained, so I ended > up even quicker in a new rut - > > I was tuned DADGCF, so suddenly I started writing > everything in D minor. After > > five years, I switched back to standard, and > practice as often as I can in it, > > and haven't found myself in a rut (by my own > subjective analysis, of > > course...) since. The solution was increasing my > knowledge of the guitar, > > getting closer to the goal of making seamless the > division between self and > > instrument, able to play what I heard in mind, not > putting fingers down and > > finding new sounds by chance. > >=20 > > I dunno...if a sax player gets in a rut, do they > quickly switch to clarinet? Or > > do they practice different things, seek out new > music to listen to, find new > > playing opportunities to challenge the rut, which > is a mental construct anyway? > >=20 > > Honestly, I don't see a world of possibilities > in switching tunings. Sure, > > there's a big ringing resonance that one can > get with unisons or open > > octaves, but that already sounds played out to my > ears unless the composition is > > a good one. If you go on YouTube and watch the > scores of open-tuned solo guitar > > players, you'll see the easy temptations they > fall into - basing everything > > on a pedal note on the lowest open string, sliding > around the same chord > > position on the low strings with the high ones > ringing out, hitting the 12th and > > 5th fret harmonics compulsively in every damn tune > - because those tricks sound > > good, at an average and tired level of good. > >=20 > > Just my experience...YMMV (and probably already > has, I'm gathering!). > >=20 > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >=20 > > > I know many guitarists that resist open > tunings and I honestly don=E2=80=99t > > know why. They really open up another world of > possibilities and are a great way > > to take a break from standard tuning, if for no > other reason than to provide > > fresh perspective and break out of playing ruts. > > > > Bill > > >=20 > >=20 > > =20 > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 20:49:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BE7A3BFCE; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ucmCWyyBSn1nYnYAgODaJP7R4zw0COjXnogB/RsFl4JVjVEFUGZH0bZUSWWU4lKU4LFQ8m8VpHv7+giekWjlZIXCCwSlxLgCRChDwdp2r9/k0brtAv6G1WTf03xWDKGaJpExVqmzhNLbqbGda60y2RAURFoiuI9MP+0uUPmnxeQ=; X-YMail-OSG: wxY_ACwVM1n2UWDuigH095DNfUvcgtkX7h4ZaYcAx1KhqCnAaFJyr_N9CjVbNp1PzZp91PfjGzzp__WGqd4ManU8_oRwcPEKMfC5_urMPdtkdbLZQ_kqnzRIVDOcFLr9pDeLRTOXagUBvIIwuuo0rSCgttvLfqNT8ICP8QHGwZzhct9.c4L1fKWJ_ieD9RBPrw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 12:49:12 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001401c99aa8$dbdc9760$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <702744.24860.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 20:49:13 +0000 (UTC) Jim I love it very nice!! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Stephen Moyes wrote: > From: Stephen Moyes > Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 12:03 PM > At first I could only get the first track to work, but I > found that the others were ok if I copied and pasted the > link into my browser. Then I tried forwarding your email to > myself with space between the links and they seem to work > properly that way. Try this . . . > > Jim's album: > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/01%20Something%20Crafty%20Afoot.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/02%20Fireflies.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/03%20Balloon.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/04%20Swamp%20%28in%20memory%20of%20John%20Fahey%29.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/05%20Radio%20Telescope.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/06%20In%20the%20Middle%20East%20of%20Appalachia.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/07%20Vertical.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/08%20Nautilus.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/09%20Transmission%2C%20Over....mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/10%20Ru7aniyya.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/11%20Within%20Moments.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/12%20Ghost.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/13%20Take%20Heed%2C%20Take%20Flight.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/14%20True.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/15%20Out%20of%20the%20Mouth%20of%20Babes.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/16%20Until%20the%20Day%20Breathes%20and%20the%20Shadows%20Flee.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/17%20500%20Feet%20%28in%20memory%20of%20Ray%20Lincoln%29.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/18%20Moscow%201923.mp3 > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Cover_Insert.jpg > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_Label.jpg > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/251618/Vertical_tray.jpg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 21:05:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08A713BFD5; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=GygeBus+nFHorvek9X0/AMCwUEmMctM3asHolfplN3c+/VoiJ7PSHAYCNOVMqZPiTgV2qVzwSnaHrlHfmEGMtTZmZoJFacZUevRBR8tDFXcSylrk9S3QLmWSRt371aVj8D/lur/LtAgjO/bN5btMy7Hxs5S4aJJQp2RpLXA1ubo=; X-YMail-OSG: p3rrDbIVM1lmpcHGmO_NQmXl3HiJK91o.19pg_nD7DbJi_9HTrBdbSCc_rldOKlt5xveDX66UcQGy3BX8r0zYc4zeDYGKlBYzWlqBBeOsq1I7cQ1TCp0OXLOXXktw30VP5TfzS57kcpim0vBl1W_qFuKNCWEHjI7QxcXMthmT.dOZLO6fb_vtYtqxzEokmCB53tZL0MHoJy083PHHn6Ox9Eayp7Kjx.T_nNg1wCQz.AX8w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:05:34 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0902271546o80f9797l2681701f3a57b741@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <271934.28609.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Hey Per, The Boss CS3 is a nifty little pedal,because if you put it in poly mode you can define which strings should be the bass by rotating the range button,i set it to about 11 o clock to have the E and A strings as bass and keep the rest of the strings unaffected. cheers Luis > > Another approach would be to have a bass pedal (octavider). > I've just > started rehearsing with one to explore it for looping. > I'm starting to > get bored with the looper scripts I use for bass - it tunes > up the > loop and overdubs, so that the overdub will be bass when > the loop is > brought back to normal speed. This technique is based on > short bass > punches and can not be used for longer notes, which is what > I'd like > to find solution for. My recent "bass pedal > patch" uses an expression > pedal: in toe down position it is just the normal octave > and in toe up > position it is one octave down. The pedal range crossfades > continuously between the octaves, so at the mid position > you have both > octaves. This makes it possible to make bass and higher > notes in one > (overdub) go, on any sort of instrument you might play. The > downside, > compared to piano and stick, is that you can't play > bass and higher > notes at the same time - you have to wait for the next loop > round. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 21:08:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C0BA3BFC6; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8E0FCCEA-6A2D-465D-80CE-2D2BDC51F77A@glasswing.com> From: richard sales To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--63552501 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths/ my rant defending alt. tunings :-) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 13:08:05 -0800 References: <119655.6010.qm@web51506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <49A8A74A.5030501@mhorse.com> <49AA92A3.5060503@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:08:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--63552501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mar 1, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Dennis Moser wrote: > > > I wonder how much of the appeal from alt tuning is the change in > timbre, > rather than the shifting around of notes. No question. And the open ringing strings. And for those who've had tendonitis, the ability to continue to play! And because it's much harder to not sound like everyone else in standard - Kottke pointed that out years ago. R richard sales www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-10--63552501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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= --Apple-Mail-10--63552501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 21:09:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72E33BFE9; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49AAF96D.8070700@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:09:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: PLEASE BE COURTEOUS ON THIS LIST Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Hey Guys, Loving all the activity at Loopers Delight lately. That being said, today I received: *Loopers Delight Daily Digest #206, Loopers Delight Daily Digest#207, Loopers Delight Daily Digest#208, Loopers Delight Daily Digest#209, Loopers Delight Daily Digest#210, Loopers Delight Daily Digest#211, Loopers Delight Daily Digest#212 All in 4 hours! *Please, please, please, be courteous and DO NOT COPY the digests when you reply to a subject. It takes so much longer to read the emails. Some of us subscribe to a daily digest because there isn't time to read all individual posts. I know that's hard for you guys with Gmail and other webbased browsers to remember, but please take mercy on us poor home based browser users. Thanks, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 21:43:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38C913BFA2; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.127.248] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <119417.12416.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 release Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 14:43:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2009 21:43:29.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[C294B220:01C99AB6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Finally. So will this be the most feature packed floor looper on the market? Does the larger Boss unit have that many features? Now, if they would just add variable and random speed, I would be delighted. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > looks like it will soon > > >> Hi all you patient and not so patient looping enthusiasts, >> >> It has been taking a looooooooooooooong time to finish >> this pedal, >> but it will be a fantastic looper. In >> fact it already is with the current feature set. Completing >> the >> software has been the hold up for some time >> now. There are only 2 features left to add and our >> programmer is >> working hard. The prototypes have all >> features but those two! Release will hopefully be this >> spring. >> >> We have all the parts to make a few hundred units. The >> circuit >> boards have all parts soldered on. Front >> panel graphic overlays have been received. Steel chassis >> have been >> received. Everything is in place. The hold >> up is finishing the software which has proven to be quite >> complex. >> If we had the software today, I could ship about 400 >> units within a month! >> >> Here's what we have so far: >> * Serial Play Style - loops play one after the other like >> the Rang(TM) Plus >> * Serial Master Play Style - see description below >> * 3 or 4 loops, your choice >> * stacking with undo/redo - "stacking" is adding >> parts to a loop >> * erase one or all loops - a loop can be erased while >> another plays >> * copy loop - a loop can be copied whether it is playing or >> not >> * copy live - this enables "re-sampling" and is >> very powerful; the >> pedal's output is routed to a new loop >> * octave - loop plays at half speed and an octave lower >> * reverse - loop plays backwards >> * once - loop plays one time through then stops or stops at >> its end if >> already playing >> * fade - loops fade in or out with one button press; fades >> can be >> approx 2 to 42 seconds long >> * reverse solo - this is an effect and enables you to >> create reverse leads live >> * 48KHz or 24KHz sample rate with 20 bit samples >> * through signal is always 48KHz sample rate with 24 bit >> samples >> * Thru Mute function >> * Playback master volume control with an expression pedal >> * Dedicated loop playback volume knob >> * Dedicated loop decay rate knob - the rate at which >> earlier parts >> fade when new ones are added >> * stereo or mono recording and playback >> * Smart jacks - the III senses which jacks are being used >> and provides >> different signal routing options >> >> Sync in Serial Play Style (Serial Master Play Style) >> There are 2 types of sync. One is a "normal" >> sync - all loops can >> play at once, there is a master that is >> recorded first, all loops are multiples of the master. This >> is the >> Sync Play Style. >> But there is another cool type of sync in the Serial >> Play Style >> where one loop is played after the other, >> the verse, chorus, bridge type of use. If loop 3 is >> recorded first, it >> will be the master, otherwise it's just >> another loop and there is no master. If loop three is >> master, then it >> can play with the other loops. It's the >> only loop that can play along with the other loops. >> So at one time you can play 1 & 3, 2 & 3, 4 >> & 3, but not 1 & 2. >> Remember this is serial play style where >> the loops play one at a time... with the exception of the >> master. I >> hope this isn't too confusing. >> Here's the purpose. For serial style loopers >> it's nice to have a >> rhythmic background behind the melodic >> loops. Mute the strings and record a short >> "chika-chika" or beat on >> the sides of your acoustic axe. >> >> What's left to do: >> = Sync Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and >> are synced >> so they stay together >> = Free Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and >> are NOT >> synced; this is great for ambient sounds >> >> The software still isn't complete, but we've >> decided to sell >> pre-production units to interested players. The features >> listed above >> are all working with only a few bugs yet to fix. >> Essentially what >> you'll get is a Boomerang(R) III looper less the Sync >> and Free Play >> Styles. >> The purchaser will receive the final production >> software and user >> manual when complete, but there is no commitment on our >> part to a >> specific delivery date. It's done when it's done. >> The software will be >> delivered as a MIDI file attached to an email. Uploading is >> accomplished by playing the file in a MIDI player on your >> computer >> with the output routed through a USB/MIDI interface and on >> to the III >> with a MIDI cable. >> If the customer doesn't have the means to >> accomplish this, then >> the unit must be returned to have the software installed. >> In that >> case, the customer will pay for all shipping expenses, both >> ways. This >> will most likely run from $20 to $30 in the lower 48. >> We will charge what we expect the "street" >> price to be, $439. >> Shipping will be additional and should be around $15. >> Holler if this >> interests you. >> >> ---------- >> >> Mike Nelson >> Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. >> General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >> >> ---------- >> >> "Some products make you sound better; >> the Boomerang(R) Phrase Sampler makes you play >> better." >> >> ---------- >> >> 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-251-8737, Outside USA * >> 1-817-251-8509, Fax >> >> http://www.boomerangmusic.com >> >> Shipping Address for Repairs: >> Boomerang >> 1516 Victoria Drive >> Denton, TX 76209 >> >> Billing Address: >> Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >> PO Box 3788 >> Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 > > >> http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> www.luis-angulo.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 1 21:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F2973BFDF; Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vpXc4Cqz8w1tmb9RBpghMx70YbPYQiCZ15TBPdZ7xP0=; b=ue6Bb6YFU4e1PW79X6ix260+dGLV2zoKjW+kiwFzub7A5uuVUl8N8XiWjhJfb/OtRf pH6SyEDE8NMxJ+bw1qcJhYd/EFuIjwXtDegmIWvbDiUGLlDLxi2mgIxF6+ro43gjUp5v e9uv2TN+d8DAAb1ZWQ8TvQbRygX6MNr7qVMFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=EKLejPO85T70VrMhqQTDqqlLMf/On3q0X8CvMpJmYHjYhTUlHszwGbilWL8ue3ctW+ 2hnE7qfF+zSVv93IAkbeuN2YCS34LJi1PcrMAmxXjC9UighHCgHvbuVCgBB9MJ9OtcDd OmsX2L4pk+7h5Rx6tk+iPPw+7dV0noLesBTIc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <119417.12416.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:44:27 +1100 Message-ID: <96adde860903011344l3925786ej77414ae155412082@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Boomerang 3 release From: Tom Sowonja To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2beb42c861f0464159be8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 21:44:29 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2beb42c861f0464159be8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is fantatsic news - i've been waiting for this for a long long time. 2009/3/2 Krispen Hartung > Finally. So will this be the most feature packed floor looper on the > market? Does the larger Boss unit have that many features? Now, if they > would just add variable and random speed, I would be delighted. :) > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> looks like it will soon >> >> >> Hi all you patient and not so patient looping enthusiasts, >>> >>> It has been taking a looooooooooooooong time to finish >>> this pedal, >>> but it will be a fantastic looper. In >>> fact it already is with the current feature set. Completing >>> the >>> software has been the hold up for some time >>> now. There are only 2 features left to add and our >>> programmer is >>> working hard. The prototypes have all >>> features but those two! Release will hopefully be this >>> spring. >>> >>> We have all the parts to make a few hundred units. The >>> circuit >>> boards have all parts soldered on. Front >>> panel graphic overlays have been received. Steel chassis >>> have been >>> received. Everything is in place. The hold >>> up is finishing the software which has proven to be quite >>> complex. >>> If we had the software today, I could ship about 400 >>> units within a month! >>> >>> Here's what we have so far: >>> * Serial Play Style - loops play one after the other like >>> the Rang(TM) Plus >>> * Serial Master Play Style - see description below >>> * 3 or 4 loops, your choice >>> * stacking with undo/redo - "stacking" is adding >>> parts to a loop >>> * erase one or all loops - a loop can be erased while >>> another plays >>> * copy loop - a loop can be copied whether it is playing or >>> not >>> * copy live - this enables "re-sampling" and is >>> very powerful; the >>> pedal's output is routed to a new loop >>> * octave - loop plays at half speed and an octave lower >>> * reverse - loop plays backwards >>> * once - loop plays one time through then stops or stops at >>> its end if >>> already playing >>> * fade - loops fade in or out with one button press; fades >>> can be >>> approx 2 to 42 seconds long >>> * reverse solo - this is an effect and enables you to >>> create reverse leads live >>> * 48KHz or 24KHz sample rate with 20 bit samples >>> * through signal is always 48KHz sample rate with 24 bit >>> samples >>> * Thru Mute function >>> * Playback master volume control with an expression pedal >>> * Dedicated loop playback volume knob >>> * Dedicated loop decay rate knob - the rate at which >>> earlier parts >>> fade when new ones are added >>> * stereo or mono recording and playback >>> * Smart jacks - the III senses which jacks are being used >>> and provides >>> different signal routing options >>> >>> Sync in Serial Play Style (Serial Master Play Style) >>> There are 2 types of sync. One is a "normal" >>> sync - all loops can >>> play at once, there is a master that is >>> recorded first, all loops are multiples of the master. This >>> is the >>> Sync Play Style. >>> But there is another cool type of sync in the Serial >>> Play Style >>> where one loop is played after the other, >>> the verse, chorus, bridge type of use. If loop 3 is >>> recorded first, it >>> will be the master, otherwise it's just >>> another loop and there is no master. If loop three is >>> master, then it >>> can play with the other loops. It's the >>> only loop that can play along with the other loops. >>> So at one time you can play 1 & 3, 2 & 3, 4 >>> & 3, but not 1 & 2. >>> Remember this is serial play style where >>> the loops play one at a time... with the exception of the >>> master. I >>> hope this isn't too confusing. >>> Here's the purpose. For serial style loopers >>> it's nice to have a >>> rhythmic background behind the melodic >>> loops. Mute the strings and record a short >>> "chika-chika" or beat on >>> the sides of your acoustic axe. >>> >>> What's left to do: >>> = Sync Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and >>> are synced >>> so they stay together >>> = Free Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and >>> are NOT >>> synced; this is great for ambient sounds >>> >>> The software still isn't complete, but we've >>> decided to sell >>> pre-production units to interested players. The features >>> listed above >>> are all working with only a few bugs yet to fix. >>> Essentially what >>> you'll get is a Boomerang(R) III looper less the Sync >>> and Free Play >>> Styles. >>> The purchaser will receive the final production >>> software and user >>> manual when complete, but there is no commitment on our >>> part to a >>> specific delivery date. It's done when it's done. >>> The software will be >>> delivered as a MIDI file attached to an email. Uploading is >>> accomplished by playing the file in a MIDI player on your >>> computer >>> with the output routed through a USB/MIDI interface and on >>> to the III >>> with a MIDI cable. >>> If the customer doesn't have the means to >>> accomplish this, then >>> the unit must be returned to have the software installed. >>> In that >>> case, the customer will pay for all shipping expenses, both >>> ways. This >>> will most likely run from $20 to $30 in the lower 48. >>> We will charge what we expect the "street" >>> price to be, $439. >>> Shipping will be additional and should be around $15. >>> Holler if this >>> interests you. >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> Mike Nelson >>> Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc. >>> General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> "Some products make you sound better; >>> the Boomerang(R) Phrase Sampler makes you play >>> better." >>> >>> ---------- >>> >>> 1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-251-8737, Outside USA * >>> 1-817-251-8509, Fax >>> >>> http://www.boomerangmusic.com >>> >>> Shipping Address for Repairs: >>> Boomerang >>> 1516 Victoria Drive >>> Denton, TX 76209 >>> >>> Billing Address: >>> Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd. >>> PO Box 3788 >>> Grapevine, TX 76099-3788 >>> >> >> >> http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>> www.luis-angulo.com >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --000e0cd2beb42c861f0464159be8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is fantatsic news - i've been waiting for this for a long long tim= e.

2009/3/2 Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com= >
Finally. So will = this be the most feature packed floor looper on the market? Does the larger= Boss unit have that many features? Now, if they would just add variable an= d random speed, I would be delighted. :)

Kris


----- Original Message -----
looks like it will soon


Hi all you patient and not so patient looping enthusiasts,

=A0 =A0It has been taking a looooooooooooooong time to finish
this pedal,
but it will be a fantastic looper. In
fact it already is with the current feature set. Completing
the
software has been the hold up for some time
now. There are only 2 features left to add and our
programmer is
working hard. The prototypes have all
features but those two! Release will hopefully be this
spring.

=A0 =A0We have all the parts to make a few hundred units. The
circuit
boards have all parts soldered on. Front
panel graphic overlays have been received. Steel chassis
have been
received. Everything is in place. The hold
up is finishing the software which has proven to be quite
complex.
=A0 =A0If we had the software today, I could ship about 400
units within a month!

=A0 =A0Here's what we have so far:
* Serial Play Style - loops play one after the other like
the Rang(TM) Plus
* Serial Master Play Style - see description below
* 3 or 4 loops, your choice
* stacking with undo/redo - "stacking" is adding
parts to a loop
* erase one or all loops - a loop can be erased while
another plays
* copy loop - a loop can be copied whether it is playing or
not
* copy live - this enables "re-sampling" and is
very powerful; the
pedal's output is routed to a new loop
* octave - loop plays at half speed and an octave lower
* reverse - loop plays backwards
* once - loop plays one time through then stops or stops at
its end if
already playing
* fade - loops fade in or out with one button press; fades
can be
approx 2 to 42 seconds long
* reverse solo - this is an effect and enables you to
create reverse leads live
* 48KHz or 24KHz sample rate with 20 bit samples
* through signal is always 48KHz sample rate with 24 bit
samples
* Thru Mute function
* Playback master volume control with an expression pedal
* Dedicated loop playback volume knob
* Dedicated loop decay rate knob - the rate at which
earlier parts
fade when new ones are added
* stereo or mono recording and playback
* Smart jacks - the III senses which jacks are being used
and provides
different signal routing options

Sync in Serial Play Style (Serial Master Play Style)
=A0 =A0There are 2 types of sync. One is a "normal"
sync - all loops can
play at once, there is a master that is
recorded first, all loops are multiples of the master. This
is the
Sync Play Style.
=A0 =A0But there is another cool type of sync in the Serial
Play Style
where one loop is played after the other,
the verse, chorus, bridge type of use. If loop 3 is
recorded first, it
will be the master, otherwise it's just
another loop and there is no master. If loop three is
master, then it
can play with the other loops. It's the
only loop that can play along with the other loops.
=A0 =A0So at one time you can play 1 & 3, 2 & 3, 4
& 3, but not 1 & 2.
Remember this is serial play style where
the loops play one at a time... with the exception of the
master. I
hope this isn't too confusing.
=A0 =A0Here's the purpose. For serial style loopers
it's nice to have a
rhythmic background behind the melodic
loops. Mute the strings and record a short
"chika-chika" or beat on
the sides of your acoustic axe.

=A0 =A0What's left to do:
=3D Sync Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and
are synced
so they stay together
=3D Free Play Style - all loops can play simultaneously and
are NOT
synced; this is great for ambient sounds

=A0 =A0The software still isn't complete, but we've
decided to sell
pre-production units to interested players. The features
listed above
are all working with only a few bugs yet to fix.
Essentially what
you'll get is a Boomerang(R) III looper less the Sync
and Free Play
Styles.
=A0 =A0The purchaser will receive the final production
software and user
manual when complete, but there is no commitment on our
part to a
specific delivery date. It's done when it's done.
The software will be
delivered as a MIDI file attached to an email. Uploading is
accomplished by playing the file in a MIDI player on your
computer
with the output routed through a USB/MIDI interface and on
to the III
with a MIDI cable.
=A0 =A0If the customer doesn't have the means to
accomplish this, then
the unit must be returned to have the software installed.
In that
case, the customer will pay for all shipping expenses, both
ways. This
will most likely run from $20 to $30 in the lower 48.
=A0 =A0We will charge what we expect the "street"
price to be, $439.
Shipping will be additional and should be around $15.
Holler if this
interests you.

----------

Mike Nelson
Secretary/Treasurer, Boomerang Management, Inc.
General Partner of Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.

----------

"Some products make you sound better;
=A0the Boomerang(R) Phrase Sampler makes you play
better."

----------

1-800-530-4699 * 1-817-251-8737, Outside USA *
1-817-251-8509, Fax

http://www.boom= erangmusic.com

Shipping Address for Repairs:
Boomerang
1516 Victoria Drive
Denton, TX =A076209

Billing Address:
Boomerang Musical Products, Ltd.
PO Box 3788
Grapevine, TX =A076099-3788


http://w= ww.myspace.com/luisangulocom
www.luis-angulo.co= m







--000e0cd2beb42c861f0464159be8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 03:12:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73BDC3BF10; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <652DDAC9-CA31-4CCE-9D04-50D007247D9E@me.com> From: Reyn Ouwehand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <26413.72.22.1235512030.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Robin Koerts - Buckshot X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:12:33 +0100 References: <26413.72.22.1235512030.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Ah funny! I studied with this guy and we've been playing together for =20= years! He's such a talented guy! Incredible... Small world... Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net On Feb 24, 2009, at 10:47 PM, Andr=E9 Donawa wrote: > Came across this last week. > I love it. > Itching to get a setup like this. > > A great combination of looping/sequencing/ and free form. > I'm still trying to figure out how he's doing it. > A lot of interesting things going on. > Hoping some of you guru's would know. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DtWKp0VwoIps > > > Andre Donawa > Barbados Guitar School > Woodside Gardens > Bay St. > St. Michael > Barbados > 11157 > Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) > 246 436 8294 (School) > > http://www.barbadosguitar.com > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 03:31:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A773BF12; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=crFgIraqhWcpGaSTpF9corvG/JvQoV5/70IrwAf/7WE=; b=QrSpnMmMIqeYr4zK+G1Cphc6joKS/jIu0mqrmN1hH+9SmCOAl84ap5IdE5fB1juCNn mShDhPOFFII6J9gU/FwjDVCqakuZeYi9L9tonYvK1Dt/Dffe+5kSM5IoxCOVryNIEOMZ ZiRGTJ1xxAimVuLB4RnljRguQJO/BTs9BQHpA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Oo4Uia31cvCGYvS8m7Pns9uHYrX2zhud7X3++RQSpRehA/wjWJYrXayZk9M5fiwSMh zIII5yqU7vJiopYEznzEw/vJHYBmhkOnGI1dVYNiVHL9JtbrVRqcLaeq9+Oqc3Dpld/i 7n25oXSJATEkhiWeatVrBu5z/pVC4kSDEykA8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49AAC726.8000701@mhorse.com> References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <49AAC726.8000701@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:31:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 03:31:14 +0000 (UTC) www.box.net 2009/3/1, Daryl Shawn : > You know, I believe with Dropbox that the folder needs to be specifically > shared with the recipients, so it won't really work to share en masse, I'm > realizing. There was a more open online storage system I can't recall now, I > think Krispen sometimes put his files there. There's also Jamendo. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. Sorry > for my lameness. Any tips? > > j > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 04:40:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29F403BF10; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1235968809; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=/XWrgDAw/vEZl+nZScx1trjRljw=; b=Jm1wUe+m6UNoPiqISQnMJqxKUEx28rxk5v1QG9Sqy8EnxOm7rj7qSxmKY8GTOyqT Ly5TbHK9L3NSkm9X/lIrhQRmFD9448TAVyTqqiHaCE61JZHPfId8egX9PnSv0DwJ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=BBN4iAGjS9sA:10 a=9Ps154EHAAAA:8 a=jsjmMl50AAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=WYd5oxahAAAA:8 a=nEJoZ4RnAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=fkieF908AAAA:8 a=qjVfsmHHFNONxjQlesMA:9 a=-PHySool1UkHQnzAiNUA:7 a=bKOp9tDcePuJUAD5McNrx-foZs0A:4 a=Zq1MA1451ewA:10 a=Nl17zUePOAwA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=BpqUGxorProA:10 a=nrUGvYwLnKIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c99af0$f48f2460$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <49AAC726.8000701@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 23:40:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Dropbox does indeed work if you place the zip in your "public" folder, then click on the little blue arrow after the zip for the menu, then click "copy public link". I have used it for several things now with no problem. Between Box.net and Dropbox I now have boku space for quick file placement. I am glad I downloaded it. Just a little learning curve. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul Bonell" To: Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 10:31 PM Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released > www.box.net > > 2009/3/1, Daryl Shawn : >> You know, I believe with Dropbox that the folder needs to be specifically >> shared with the recipients, so it won't really work to share en masse, >> I'm >> realizing. There was a more open online storage system I can't recall >> now, I >> think Krispen sometimes put his files there. There's also Jamendo. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> >> >> > I joined, installed, got a dropbox and I still can't get that link. >> > Sorry >> for my lameness. Any tips? >> > j >> > >> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 08:14:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F5213BF0D; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=dTdb+2CP3zxnz3EB5tvdpuxiVeYjntEU/B8iif3w+m/nR4wK4TeYmSi4A1GNSW+l2TyrLEV5MJISbOCBv2ggtpKPi4E7yKuq7ahStrvP0ikOSx8zJJcNl0fWxUt2AQZ2tiU8hK9NyUQuwhjTziJDG1HsB1wzEqrnKEFoHPrgreo=; X-YMail-OSG: 9RotxX8VM1mpsnuC46a9onBipK9c.peYD7K_SYzRSwF9xD2q0HhXjomru2X1Id84yckTjt7OK1gm75mMT3Mlt9q9QmTDkjPZpKA6AmzlZ7Ryhcpq8jChFJ.K9MJzSWa5f81.SI8fDbLpMRD5zn_kVDllRXxyVxq5IJZiH2RRIUa0Xx49CnNn4kmDbGqIM7WSAKjAPHrGFfD9kzVY6w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 00:14:26 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Per Boysen Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903011410y4a2237a9m5088569d4584ecff@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <586697.83611.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 08:14:27 +0000 (UTC) off course how can it sounds convincing when i give you the wrong model description;-) here you can read about it (forget the video) better yet go try it out! http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=608 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:10 PM > That doesn't sound totally convincing... how does a the > box know if I > play a note on the A string or the E string? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:05 PM, L.Angulo > wrote: > > Hey Per, > > The Boss CS3 is a nifty little pedal,because if you > put it in poly mode you can define which strings should be > the bass by rotating the range button,i set it to about 11 o > clock to have the E and A strings as bass and keep the rest > of the strings unaffected. > > cheers > > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 09:17:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9382E3BF0B; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20090301173245.185823BFA2@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: RE: basic Bidule question Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:17:05 +0100 Message-ID: <003801c99b17$a8210860$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20090301173245.185823BFA2@arsenic.violacea.com> X-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmalAjJNjUINhceSHOszTA58+bXhQAg3q0A X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.98; VDF: 7.1.2.96) Resent-Message-ID: <_Dh6PC.A.ptH.UQ6qJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:17:08 +0000 (UTC) er, has anyone sent me an offlist msg with "bidule" and "cc" in its subject? It landed in my spam folder and was deleted before I could say stop. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 10:11:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86E353BF0A; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zSSe0gOrEEqqHdeZz63LZEBnWG2q782Jcf4LVLQBaA8=; b=aoRHEQW8wd+YkpISRCGH/uSlZkytkI2h9C5qLAk/GeMNCuO9fyuODE5Kw46hzzcUg8 pAiIz12zcLT1YbKFHkNWYxCftm5X6OnpVqOn0FyoGvnPm6fmjBIWY7fpjxlY9AovAqD8 Y1+797rbFDGlkd6xL2HMlc0sjxfY+UJOt16gk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bCy+621EYYItkSA9lxwTsT5loEwBLRMjHFKlpW4kNsthfiPZHbr8g8VqVPBnci/BGb 8HBDWZiPO/N3E8gE0uFLgmrWcWDz9cKGNfxv+tLdb29+brC07fD9E6MVDK5EUsGcAYVF vyMsw+0YHKsAy07wfRUgC81gdUSs2Nk3ryY24= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <003801c99b17$a8210860$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <20090301173245.185823BFA2@arsenic.violacea.com> <003801c99b17$a8210860$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:11:01 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903020211pc6078f8h6fb39e00b4d59312@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: basic Bidule question From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 10:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Not me. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > er, has anyone sent me an offlist msg with "bidule" and "cc" in its subject? > It landed in my spam folder and was deleted before I could say stop. > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 12:49:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50AA53BEF6; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=co3rVNlp/Se1PIuw0wlrkkXpFUavgnaU3/bk2FgQ64Y=; b=vmw0tKTVCe1LDNMsYB6dRb1Rwf54wYaw70ap9yRvVrU5VlI+ljX/Grm57vy/D3+WLa DDUB/5L/idDuqFleTf92a2IC2Gip8xdIK2DKDSD5bCdI9QqHGaZ6eKITvSagesC+mdlZ 16MtD8DJ/z+WkGtgPh3JYb4Ti1APGYEC4G23w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cJare3BkPZ7vk++G0Mv4ZvAXSO1qAoHmjLBVrBYKuss0q5t2FPgdFnrNE0xRJb9cg1 RCxwIrcxawgAoRIE6fVVyZsb7irGnUUSMTu9R9K9kdDx3aTtACYbZpuGVtAvlxLPP9yR QJzX0F9eaYacUIYcFNbgUfarzczgNWa08w/xs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 04:49:23 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> Subject: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0a88473c59b0464223fda Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:49:24 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0a88473c59b0464223fda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a difference. I was having a chat with my lady the other evening about music. Wow, how intriguing, I know. ;) But more specifically... music as a story. She posed an interesting question, do I view my songs as more stories, or sound manipulation with all that entails? Certainly, we who make it, know that the lines are not that cut and dry. But I will say... I do live looping stuff a bit, and never record it. To me, live. It's now. It's what is happening. It is more sonic manipulation than storytelling. Although certainly, it has elements of both. Recorded, might capture those moments, but "recorded songs" are more about telling the story. WITH the sonics, of course. But more structure, more sequenced mixed with live looping/ability to turn sequence on/off and loop fully in those moments (and partially when it is sequenced).... ... sequencing gives more prethought, to me. Which is both a plus and a negative. It both makes your "story" more specific, and also constricits you to telling the story you made when you wrote "that". Which invariably has changed since you wrote it, if you are on this list, or so I'd think. So, the question: A)Is your music more story or sonic manipulation? B)Do you more often loop or sequence? mix? what measure of the two and do they ever intermix? C)How do you feel looping vs sequencing affects "story" D)How do you feel music can be a story, if you feel such? E)What's the latest "story" you're stoked on? and why? -nn happyhumans.org --001636e0a88473c59b0464223fda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a difference.

I was having a chat with my lady the other evening abo= ut music.=A0 Wow, how intriguing, I know. ;)

But more specifically..= . music as a story.

She posed an interesting question, do I view my = songs as more stories, or sound manipulation with all that entails?

Certainly, we who make it, know that the lines are not that cut and dry= .

But I will say... I do live looping stuff a bit, and never record = it.=A0 To me,=A0 live.=A0 It's now. It's what is happening.=A0 It i= s more sonic manipulation than storytelling.=A0 Although certainly, it has = elements of both.

Recorded, might capture those moments, but "recorded songs" a= re more about telling the story.=A0 WITH the sonics, of course.=A0 But more= structure, more sequenced mixed with live looping/ability to turn sequence= on/off and loop fully in those moments (and partially when it is sequenced= )....

... sequencing gives more prethought, to me.

Which is both a plu= s and a negative.=A0 It both makes your "story" more specific, an= d also constricits you to telling the story you made when you wrote "t= hat".=A0 Which invariably has changed since you wrote it, if you are o= n this list, or so I'd think.


So, the question:

A)Is your music more story or sonic manipu= lation?

B)Do you more often loop or sequence? mix?=A0 what measure o= f the two and do they ever intermix?

C)How do you feel looping vs se= quencing affects "story"

D)How do you feel music can be a story, if you feel such?

E)What= 's the latest "story" you're stoked on?=A0 and why?
-nn
happyhumans.org
--001636e0a88473c59b0464223fda-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 13:01:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C2833BEFB; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 310 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:01:14 UTC Message-Id: From: Steve Lawson To: Loop List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--6674845 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:56:02 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:01:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--6674845 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit .while we're talking netiquette, it's still considered shouting by most web-users to write things all in capitals on email lists and forums... ...just sayin' ;) Steve Where to find me on the web - _______________________ ********************************* *** www.stevelawson.net - shiny new site *** www.stevelawson.net/blog - blog *** www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson *** www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson *** www.twitter.com/solobasssteve *** http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 - loads of new video here! --Apple-Mail-4--6674845 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable .while we're talking = netiquette, it's still considered shouting by  
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So=2C the question:

A)Is your music more story or sonic manipula= tion?
It is a story but not in words=2C it's abstract. A story of my improvisatio= n=2C the intentional moves and the mistakes.
 =3B
B)Do you more often loop or sequence? mix? =3B what measure of the two = and do they ever intermix?
I only loop.. so far :-)

C)How do you feel looping vs sequencing affects "story"
For my looping IS the story..

D)How do you feel music can be a story= =2C if you feel such?
Free improvisation tend to be like a journey in it self...

E)What's = the latest "story" you're stoked on? =3B and why?
My latest "story" = is a reaction to the alt tunings discussion here. It's called BIG C and can= be heard here:
http://www.soundclick.= com/AndersBergdahl
(the Tuning is CGDGBE) just guitar=2C amp and some echo besides the EDP. Pi= ngPong echo added in mix.

= --_a0c50c2b-c3a2-44a1-92ad-f1a2cd68145d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 16:20:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB4553BECF; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_33d6c2af-4806-4329-b305-70acbe464d36_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:20:30 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903010227g641e5d7v6a2ab17e4b08ae34@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A9D67D.5090906@post.cybercity.dk> <518740.71044.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903010223gcdd2ba2n3b1ea47aa18de36@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903010227g641e5d7v6a2ab17e4b08ae34@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 16:20:31.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[CEA20D00:01C99B52] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:20:31 +0000 (UTC) --_33d6c2af-4806-4329-b305-70acbe464d36_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I tried a fith/regular tuning in one of my Swans (27" scale length intended= for standard tuning) with a ordinary 010 set and it work just FINE. The tu= ning is CGD (5ths) and the standard guitar tuning GBE (actually the four th= inner strings are in standard tuning)=20 Made a LONG clip with it=2C 17 minutes of improvisation called BIG C: www.Soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl The Soloway Swans are great for lower tunings and sound great in regular tu= ning as well=2C without string change.. www.jimsoloway.com Good looping instruments :-)=2C Jim designed the guitars for solo jazz play= ing and the grand piano style tone these guitars have is great for all sort= s of solo/looping styles as well as great all around guitars. Try one!! You= can get a loaner from Jim or visit me in Stockholm. . >=20 > Well=2C for me buying a new instrument is not an option. But buying some > thicker strings is something I can afford. So=2C many thanks to Ariel > that posted suggestions for a suitable gauge in this tuning! And > thanks to everyone else that answered the question. The thread really > took off into a lot other interesting paths! Love this list :-) >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com >=20 --_33d6c2af-4806-4329-b305-70acbe464d36_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I tried =3Ba fith/regular tuning in one of my Swans (27" scale leng= th intended for standard tuning) with a =3Bordinary 010 set and it work= just FINE. The tuning is CGD (5ths) and the standard guitar tuning =3B= GBE (actually the four thinner strings are in standard tuning)
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The Soloway =3BSwans are great for lower tunings and sound great in reg= ular tuning as well=2C without string change..
www.jimsoloway.com
Good looping instruments :-)=2C Jim designed the guitars for solo jazz play= ing and the grand piano style tone these guitars have is great for all sort= s of solo/looping styles as well as great all around guitars. Try one!! You= can get a loaner from Jim or visit me in Stockholm.
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>=3B
>=3B Greetings from Sweden
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>=3B = Per Boysen
>=3B www.boysen.se
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>=3B = --_33d6c2af-4806-4329-b305-70acbe464d36_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 19:52:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EB103BEDB; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:52:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qyC9XWBX74pfrW3Nth2fs1/g892h3xF5C0AGRgXu0/g=; b=ZzNJA3+mo3ak9x9S47foYliXOqHfKrzbTzOBKzaFtZCq1CjGWWccSTD2EsG59GreA3 jBTG9FC6r1ykZh04Df15helAbgEzhl28N8Hzg+9sj7gqj7xli/wYA+G1NAHFiiC/gPwl sonb4y4gX4WemFXyjti+/FLBlFHPx1pJYI2r8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sKCGI7N1GIQY6yo0uavj4uZjiYteOz4ZEo7Rc7E0a6lLTvJWXC1mu2V6RhNyYpp7x/ FUHlBs4EHHGu5TVN7Y/K8Ka9CcuF+9vfoqFimL4a4H4n78CSLgXJJIrz9WVxKnv2ka6E +mxVdhzgzsT1D9j7emGTHnocU6lUMeSRZHYEA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <49A9D67D.5090906@post.cybercity.dk> <518740.71044.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903010223gcdd2ba2n3b1ea47aa18de36@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903010227g641e5d7v6a2ab17e4b08ae34@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:52:48 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903021152i30390482l64716169efe608cf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 19:52:48 +0000 (UTC) To me your BIC C is one of the most interesting guitar looping pieces I've heard. Keep up that great work, Anders! Per On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > > I tried=A0a fith/regular tuning in one of my Swans (27" scale length inte= nded > for standard tuning) with a=A0ordinary 010 set and it work just FINE. The > tuning is CGD (5ths) and the standard guitar tuning=A0GBE (actually the f= our > thinner strings are in standard tuning) > Made a=A0LONG clip with it, 17 minutes of improvisation called BIG C: > www.Soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl > The Soloway=A0Swans are great for lower tunings and sound great in regula= r > tuning as well, without string change.. > www.jimsoloway.com > Good looping instruments :-), Jim designed the guitars for solo jazz play= ing > and the grand piano style tone these guitars have is great for all sorts = of > solo/looping styles as well as great all around guitars. Try one!! You ca= n > get a loaner from Jim or visit me in Stockholm. > . >> >> Well, for me buying a new instrument is not an option. But buying some >> thicker strings is something I can afford. So, many thanks to Ariel >> that posted suggestions for a suitable gauge in this tuning! And >> thanks to everyone else that answered the question. The thread really >> took off into a lot other interesting paths! Love this list :-) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 20:28:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22CD33BEDF; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49AC4057.3090201@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:23:51 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for February, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:28:31 +0000 (UTC) WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for February, 2009. Shows #618 to #621; 5-February-2009 to 26-February-2009 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox The Special Focus for February was Stephen Parsick. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#feb ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =========================================================== Conrad Schnitzler - Rektification - Ricochet Dream Dutch Space Mission - Cosmic Grunn - none Dutch Space Mission - E-Live 2008 - none Jeffrey Koepper - Radiate - Ricochet Dream Meesha - Pentorama - none Meesha - Waves - none Megatone - Pure Land - none Mystified - Pulse Ringer Pieces - Droehnhaus Phrozenlight - Autumn - none Robert Carty - Starlight Volume 1 - Deep Sky Sensitive Chaos - Emerging Transparency - Subsequent Shalmaneser - Ticker - Doubtful Palace Stephen Parsick - Fuzzstars - doombient Stephen Parsick - Planetary Music - doombient Stephen Parsick - Schwartzschild - doombient Stephen Parsick - Sediments - doombient Syndromeda - The Twilight Conjunction - Ricochet Dream synth.nl - AtmoSphere - Groove Various Artists - Awakenings 2008 Volume 1 - AmbientLive Various Artists - Awakenings 2008 Volume 1.5 - AmbientLive Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 20:59:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C77783BEDB; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=JXhslwaeiK/URRSjHDELoJm795f9v9BzVr1e5IR8NoHIk4JZI5H9irE+IqhRn2Nj+eCxYFkifl8AJOPDA35KzdgYOCUVyv4xnhOzbpXjARkyiPjrsQX4bdp/C9Io+sgXkl4VBcf11SqMDZhXF4KQIKR+/3LCFCbjhrv/20csYKk=; X-YMail-OSG: LUD62psVM1n04ApZl3FfPfxhezjq_sWd.qHFCUHpPmABbo_lFVWKaAjGEXdIgBvXv0LwUcg66vDBvyWvNHCsAKrXSKlb1RqLCn0Ljg8aFF21uQJRYAueDIRz7gyCF1LyxbjadguNsiALQeGGGj9aJqSJB_eZkvtoCwxt.bxmW_rj7.GLSPjC3ALQl4Hxp4hPk77EIqDeEBG3.qIvtw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:59:54 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: andy butler Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <49ABC4DE.4030103@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <782806.2814.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:59:55 +0000 (UTC) the poly mode is the only thing i like about it,what i love doing with the OC3 is mixing the poly mode on the 2 lower strings with the swell effect of the DL4,it gives you a nice strings synth effect.Yes The Pog tracking is way better. But i agree otherwise the OC3 is too wabbly and awful sounding specially on acoustic guitar! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 3:37 AM > L.Angulo wrote: > > off course how can it sounds convincing when i give > you the wrong model description;-) > > > > here you can read about it > > > > >(forget the video) > > I'm trying :-) > > > better yet go try it out! > > hope it's better than the OC2. > (it does track ok though) > 1) Bypass tone weak, so it's only suitable for use in > an fx loop > 2) and the sound of the dry signal to mix with the octaves > is really awful > Of course, for years the OC2 was the only option with > decent tracking. > > > > Personally, I wouldn't waste time (again) with Boss > stuff, they really try too > hard to save costs. If they can save a couple of pennies by > using a > lower quality op amp they always will. > ...and the fact they spend the money they save on horrible > videos doesn't help :-) > > > The Electro Harmonix Micro Pog might be worth considering, > perfect tracking without latency on the low octave. > ( the oct up sucks tho' imo) > > andy > > > > > > > > http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=608 > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Sun, 3/1/09, Per Boysen > wrote: > > > >> From: Per Boysen > >> Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider > orchestration options > >> To: labaloops@yahoo.com > >> Date: Sunday, March 1, 2009, 2:10 PM > >> That doesn't sound totally convincing... how > does a the > >> box know if I > >> play a note on the A string or the E string? > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.boysen.se > >> www.perboysen.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:05 PM, L.Angulo > >> wrote: > >>> Hey Per, > >>> The Boss CS3 is a nifty little pedal,because > if you > >> put it in poly mode you can define which strings > should be > >> the bass by rotating the range button,i set it to > about 11 o > >> clock to have the E and A strings as bass and keep > the rest > >> of the strings unaffected. > >>> cheers > >>> Luis > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 21:12:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 158A73BEC9; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=4pH7VE4tGOSyXYiQngFKNzq+3LtaAx/cB6OyBOCFybkTkMqJoHPv0XMUw0IaVBog7iA0c6oPKA+8yH98hYhADhtFmT1fqQk9lvKKE3TlJZ7hGiUHkCpJpdh4pvrK+LRsrNQY3xFGxuuhY3sHLXgmr97IQWiX94YP3vbOdFMw/V0=; X-YMail-OSG: 8VDEhTgVM1nohD6orPOdkb4AHcFmrfA3ptsn.i3B8YSbzKS1EJnZXWkIM7OqrjzUCZnkD_dTXn.rFa0LVQblZlDnA3a5y_Rxa3bvqXzvnAocVg6D52d.Dh3Z8pyCxKDfksKkKqJoSVgY4Brwr9NYFiU03A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:12:20 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options OT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49A7AA2D.1070107@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <74184.13437.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:12:23 +0000 (UTC) or you get a Roland synth or a VG99 and mix the bass strings and dont have to detune the guitar;-) or would that be cheating? > > Reading this thread, a may have another go with CGDGBE. > I've knocked around with it before, but now it occurs > that the extra low notes would be very handy for adding > basslines into the loop. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 21:18:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04D6C3BEDB; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:18:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; bh=NT1j16aA+keATalN77GxfVV9tBLgJWb99sobUor6Gtk=; b=PnwlGa/2QKMtzrw3ZWCtz5EUtKAOo7SJGXdbuhp/TloA5SUHPkZhotHCX2xXNa/PfR XglorDcqHrLiZiBNvm70Sl4DNkL/abpsvwQPxtjI5KcuX5w3sHN1Rzw57kutC1pkY3o+ XSoSAm1BqgDayYeBHBp5slcFP+MY0gBshh3zM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject :date:references:x-mailer; b=UIjEg7srJ/ZatCZvhhP47f4qi9Hx2BGKow+8mAGjOl/NWOCqZvhxoRUWt0cVsl05Gm IW9xlLvIO0OeS/bcLZHQOCpEXA89MWPgl/MHYpDV7zciFQwd3pSBlokolWqNwcpmat39 CCfRxk2wc6HWzLwfc/CY478rHTkbX3u3KJyxw= Message-Id: <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> From: David Hayes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0901210528p36053dcfk91dae6c1f2110b2b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22-23479562 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:18:37 -0800 References: <189041.60284.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090121130208.306010@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901210528p36053dcfk91dae6c1f2110b2b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:18:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22-23479562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going to put my EDP for sale. What do you think I should ask for it? This is the Oberhiem one which works perfecltly but it does have one line of one of the digital displays out (so the top of one 0 or 8 doesn't display, for example.) Also it has the loop 3 version software rather then the newer loop 4, but there's not that many differences really. I figure I'll just throw in the footswitch because it needs new buttons (only like $2-5 per button, if memory serves, but takes time to find 'em and solder them and pay someone to do it.) New EDP's (and from my brief web search just now they seem they to be very hard to come by) I think are $1000 (http://www.musiciansnews.com/guitars/34/gibson_tge05_echoplex_digital_pro_plus.shtml ) plus $150 for the footswitch (that was the range I remember when I bought mine, not even sure you can get the footswitch new. So, given all that do you think that $600 is too steep to put it on line for? Much thanks! --Apple-Mail-22-23479562 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm = going to put my EDP for sale. What do you think I should ask for it? = This is the Oberhiem one which works perfecltly but it does have one = line of one of the digital displays out (so the top of one 0 or = 8 doesn't display, for example.) Also it has the loop 3 version = software rather then the newer loop 4, but there's not that many = differences really. 
I figure I'll just throw in the = footswitch because it needs new buttons (only like $2-5 per =  button, if memory serves, but takes time to find 'em and solder = them and pay someone to do it.)
New EDP's (and from my brief web = search just now they seem they to be very hard to come by) I think are = $1000 (http://www.musiciansnews.com/guitars/34/gibson_tge05_= echoplex_digital_pro_plus.shtml)  plus $150 for the = footswitch (that was the range I remember when I bought mine, not even = sure you can get the footswitch new. 
So, given all that do you think = that $600 is too steep to put it on line for?

Much = thanks!
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 21:33:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D0C93BEDE; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=u45+CUrzqe/0bS3phR3b1x9g1Z1qu/MIlQyQdBiEi1I=; b=fPz0i8pAsAqsIxKcECHEwYgtefw+Ra6bXS+atGlYqB6krGiGu3ypNUdJnSdMAedlYO JRxR035pxMNu2jw6WhMOiai+rRBFg+g+Dn1jq0EVMeGI0FhLTHbFFQ8RxQwYfr/uHRHW w/AslZ1LMLbhUqt9+qkYS6cEgCLydH4BSvoBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j2vqnBWwWvhVMPqNWohtV4eRVzRJE2C+6PZ9jDeEYp7rM1KRFmRFcHyF7Ck2tDRpMr sRVCih9tOI6ODcsIL6nGWrDLUH11wALqz6PDTFsWDN1JJ2dZtT91JcLS/JZB9O3zpVuV vNc6RVqWSI/1ly2f8koz3i508Hh8S5kxiEvnY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> References: <189041.60284.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090121130208.306010@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901210528p36053dcfk91dae6c1f2110b2b@mail.gmail.com> <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:33:58 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903021333g6df94a3dla57a15c189b187f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Fwd: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6uiZtC.A.JoH.GDFrJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:33:58 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, David Hayes wrote: > I'm going to put my EDP for sale. What do you think I should ask for it? Well, I gave mine to someone. Guess that wasn't a fair price... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 21:48:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D84A3BEDB; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=THJITgxG72B3uabdQq7YzM0Ll6Bg8QwKqGALZ7BHuB3WixmSNTzXWPKgXbEisNILO6kZDGvd/Azci+B8LGIsZSGclwQiaCRSo9esy0Z+NXA7dfrBOMcNat3UOAxU4xOxAV82B4zLRFskjWL4hxh0bivjeDpFiC0yHFa1nZIRMIY= ; X-YMail-OSG: 49QgUv4VM1njfDOLEPJZTmBMAHZdRmW58LdlROtmLjp_ekz.qZsgESoNm.07Z1gEA8BzhGxLNCoO4nIl1iy0Wfl7hBoP4SaAR5DwDgchdfnXaD2U2RM6JBg6thOzAglpNm7VvmjVQWfbSWVTlhmiQQJUz1CO1VUE1_YAaReNNX.oD51qT762dG8iThe97_Bj6YCRHmKXr0eLTRsuQp_ih.rPqUS02Hmc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <55DB863F553140F08B38CE20B4134693@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <189041.60284.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090121130208.306010@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901210528p36053dcfk91dae6c1f2110b2b@mail.gmail.com> <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903021333g6df94a3dla57a15c189b187f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Christopher Willits looks at Looper in Live 8 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:50:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Check it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnvntSKpYAs Ricky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 21:49:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 547BA3BEDD; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:49:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=DHkZ25Yqh8/gwn+imIO34ZP6OW6W2dVGRNhDDwffuHWT/tpxG6CsAlcLGvCHNGcI4qJdih+dH8addYendr0r6w9nKdegkt85AQc0dkP7wloK0HQqPt+La/O/c4MWTWBHqwEHfKKKyYRxCbw7rNlGLrdUctiCMq8sjjam2zlS4UI=; X-YMail-OSG: CJN1XUEVM1kOC8rSHU4tozDxqeJTb1Cp53vOqsj7ENGCzt4WtvRE7Aa._vmJ.iT5v.dIxe9izjbLyF3iMUW9AwxCrpYXSWsuAvE8JcuoiIZyzrULv6..8sR9yUxQcdJl4b0Q1LTpqBLpu0WUhLcEXFvRgPoiTSwAVrI4RVA6w6Nonqid1iEaWz1LZJqwjoi7Y4vCT8zlQwTXKhfJlI6xqGHms4.3RcEq9yhv7fI- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903021333g6df94a3dla57a15c189b187f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <176495.7868.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:49:37 +0000 (UTC) i agree, it would have been fair if u had given it ot me though www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Fwd: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? > To: "loopers-delight" > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:33 PM > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, David Hayes > wrote: > > I'm going to put my EDP for sale. What do you > think I should ask for it? > > Well, I gave mine to someone. Guess that wasn't a fair > price... > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 21:59:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDE0C3BEDC; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ZnyeruzJGjY5MxJmlYw414IstjVbT4iCOYII6G8NqU96sAa0buwd+LZMrl+esQFWQ8pERuppcDAYAl8VXpab2iH4omLZFh2AISDCy3McNE+QA7GEf9RJMq1LFgTPoLBbCk8hkRkfk/lx8dlgzTFGwoQqGpooId/cvsFydqMNp4w=; X-YMail-OSG: iNLGOY8VM1kSkyDh0yeP5Otd4wb56WSNI_N3AzOGqdNGggS3thMjQixxsAvEdua8yJrl8b8he9uCrvovtdqngpkMHXk_wi77dEqS9cu3OB0OMHjCLBQRabg8lWus_vSkKy913spbAFanzK71jpx4uXgTaJJ5iyJU9oznjviHJQN1INMEg1oPAs581EhhyD_5VXU- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:59:04 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <925338.6675.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:59:06 +0000 (UTC) I see every once in a while the oberheims in ebay U.S. going for about 400.00 dlss in good condition. www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, David Hayes wrote: > From: David Hayes > Subject: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:18 PM > I'm going to put my EDP for sale. What do you think I > should ask for it? This is the Oberhiem one which works > perfecltly but it does have one line of one of the digital > displays out (so the top of one 0 or 8 doesn't display, > for example.) Also it has the loop 3 version software rather > then the newer loop 4, but there's not that many > differences really. > > I figure I'll just throw in the footswitch because it > needs new buttons (only like $2-5 per button, if memory > serves, but takes time to find 'em and solder them and > pay someone to do it.) > > New EDP's (and from my brief web search just now they > seem they to be very hard to come by) I think are $1000 > (http://www.musiciansnews.com/guitars/34/gibson_tge05_echoplex_digital_pro_plus.shtml) > plus $150 for the footswitch (that was the range I remember > when I bought mine, not even sure you can get the footswitch > new. > > So, given all that do you think that $600 is too steep to > put it on line for? > > Much thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:00:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BE9B3BEDE; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HXBDiutkYMvpSXf1yhGhT0/2xAASIOIKUUEUa/PjQt0jD6mwYIjyv6WzMmMPG6Mj9d7Sa3kSzSuihyppPlVDGJxM3wZ+wJ0ltKf/IPKGFuNeCiBawPR8fNjoRI0dPI4jiKUDvUA5wi6FDPxx7h8QVhUZ1TqbhdKCUksQtUNmKxg=; X-YMail-OSG: S1Xny.AVM1nqVJkz0OYt2hTnT6218qGWDnSbRjOqKU3CCzPMxC33KBB5sjwyMh_Xa00Mt3cAaGZIs5OS6d1HaUu14Fwt9C1VwSBLHXuXFCFFIGFxgPpKXfrpHPX2mzbzP86Ue_MvMqXTb4ElEFFdEeyUPs2c8zq4G_W7z.lV8ymH9loZgJwp6CVtwcl8_8UL5AOJegTEU6GJeD31w4vIonC8 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:00:27 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? To: Per Boysen Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903021356l236ebcfre1f7c574e31cfb36@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <783251.97478.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) never give a beautiful woman all your precious love and money brother;-) www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Re: Fwd: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:56 PM > MEGA LOL!!!! > I gave it to a beautiful woman with a great voice and > interesting > musical ideas. Then she never called back... > > p ;-) > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:49 PM, L.Angulo > wrote: > > i agree, it would have been fair if u had given it ot > me though > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Per Boysen > wrote: > > > >> From: Per Boysen > >> Subject: Fwd: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair > price? > >> To: "loopers-delight" > > >> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:33 PM > >> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:18 PM, David Hayes > >> wrote: > >> > I'm going to put my EDP for sale. What do > you > >> think I should ask for it? > >> > >> Well, I gave mine to someone. Guess that > wasn't a fair > >> price... > >> > >> Greetings from Sweden > >> > >> Per Boysen > >> www.boysen.se > >> www.perboysen.com > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:06:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F5C53BEE6; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:06:40 UTC X-UOL-TAGLINE: true X-UNTD-OriginStamp: 9EhR0pLz6z6d5YFoVQ4jW/t291dz/RgMN4SZ1jaJFWI= X-Originating-IP: [74.162.175.132] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "qrd@juno.com" Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 21:58:03 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Remora/Andrew Weathers tour X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20090302.165803.194.0@webmail15.vgs.untd.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-ContentStamp: 12:6:85090086 X-MAIL-INFO:04b9313d3105bc315c7c05f5d1cc49a5f9f58d81f949652d29d82939e1f83d3c993d313cdda17c81757c28816ce885786125ac09ac6cccacb1ec6ce519119168f1e58815f191d9984865488969011cc9c1894d15f1f1e8c56ce95db10dac8c191d5c8c19ec6de98d X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.155|webmail15.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|qrd@juno.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Hey, I thought you might want to know about the upcoming Remora & Andrew Weathers tour. 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Click here for Adult Education programs. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsIn6K6CdxvhR2ypPA6uMiC= 7NZf9k6ltx1czuXiFoCQAn7KxCSY5Pa/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:09:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E869D3BEE6; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bEQnu7mznERXnEQ4qxBaaqQI3WnBLYG70n6ztrIA0DbMXgm5LKl9i3ueBAvgIch070z4UbuFOj84TtZny0g7m96t3JSUtq6E2k6yLeixTnfaykqh0uptCQo/uokS73PPJhMGGRZGzNHT9mXgBbg08V1krUBlaUgA14YzZsPOovQ=; X-YMail-OSG: DokHJhgVM1lW67VeH.y0VRD0r6CeTPzb52ztHLqSSkEwQq1tn26dj8ftbNIM9qRGFViDiqMtRgS5wPqV7xOgLFfAfA555tatzRd4MTaaybbEpn40._15zQBvvjvLLQr8q4cvxjTIsnIrdfazB4fgR1pWH5DGRrD5K9ld5OfJ4VQhQswiClHMMIPMrkb6VYy2Syg- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:09:21 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: agentlesoul2004@yahoo.com Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <884448.49959.qm@web51502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <63415.76082.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Actually i believe there has been a lot of pop tunes backed with this tunin= g in the background while playing another track in standard,is almost as po= pular as the nashville tuning.There is also a variation used often CGDGBD,a= tune that comes to mind is the Eagles "best of my Love",it gives the track= a nice deeper sound. Cheers Luis Thats why i like the CGDGBE tuning,=A0D to light e are just as usual so it'= s easy to solo. You don't have to relearn that much.=A0it also=A0almost ope= n G which is great for some stones stuff and a C chord with low C, G=A0E(4t= h string secondfret)G,=A0C (B string first fret) and E sound HUGE :-). I=A0= tried this one of my 27"=A0scale Swans and it sound GREAT with a ordinary d= 'addario 010 set.=A0VERY Cool tuning that i have not seen that often. Is there anybody else fooling around with this tuning?? Does it have=A0name= ? =A0 Anders www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl=20 =A0 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:44:38 +0100 Subject: Re: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options From: mark@markfrancombe.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I've been watching this tread with grrat interest, I think its amazing how = so many of you have experimented with tunings, and have of course tried som= e things myself on spare guitars, for effects. (Like for example the tuning= s that Rick mentioned, about tuning the whole guitar to one note for groovy= droning noise stuff etc). What really amazes me however is... do you guys reall RE-learn all your sca= les and chords for all these different tunings?=A0 I mean, if you tune to t= his 5ths approach... how do you play a chord!!! Its taken me 33 years (sinc= e I first got a guitar) to learn a few girl guide chords, and a couple of b= ar chords.... one (ok two) scales, that I can slide up and down... but the = thing that has stopped me REALLY getting into tuning is this... Do I really= have to forget what I ever knew... and dedicate my life to a new tuning???= ? I myself have been using baritone guitar for 10 years, with a A based tunin= g, this gives me the LOWS I need for bass parts, and I use a lot of pitch s= hifting, and can go high enough... but this is still standard tuning basica= lly, just tined down a bit... Have to try out this 5ths thing m On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Charles Zwicky wr= ote: Per Boysen wrote: Anyone here on the list having tried tuning a guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options? Or even wider intervals? Would make sense when looping to get lower bass and higher highs. I guess you have to pick a custom string set for this. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com I have been tuning in straight fifths for =A0the past 15 years or so.... http://jpsongs.com/troubadortech/zwickrig.htm --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:16:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47ADF3BEEE; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:16:01 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090302221601.227280@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18L0Vc4tHcLETwzKlxLyG2hJ1Du2OD48gvzmq0gO3 X7Gi3f1mvDOwWYiopa+WHE5ntErAXrfNYbWg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: xz7EBPM5bHIhI9sjwjU0mHYiJihyatCJ X-FuHaFi: 0.8100000000000001 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:16:03 +0000 (UTC) > that music actually is about telling a story. I fully agree with Per! So, on this forum, I find the following question more interesting: Do you use your looper as the _means_ to storytelling or as the _content_ of your story? Buzap -- Computer Bild Tarifsieger! GMX FreeDSL - Telefonanschluss + DSL für nur 17,95 ¿/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:19:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E92AE3BEF0; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2COmLtpc/DPJwmIX2ET69GZoJYUwEPzwugOCGipZpdo=; b=RySdQqoD/hQp1Oe2QPCIzAFVKK08OE8TJ8yI2lo0o4D/t0N935iqGg5aIDuTw6FSJ7 QbiPTpYFrASbLQjwcbit103D3Fvvex/PDzMZhpL60mLqzduj9qEnly3ZSGKvyMJwGbNl 3gHzowcffxqFxb6N607v5yWogU3uhNq4aE6zY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xK+DKQnH/ms9wvJJPYu9HK3UyTAxYu7JnCjNK93+j9t5dqhkDTQLeQvczVs+Z0/e31 c9YEyVkLEvoqy8irLfTIH5uHZMvqRAkdVlr9P5G5Wf8xtxboX5xx+Mv32i2fSFgXIZ1p U3V5KCz/CH58JwL5nt1Vrpr7imjMHxNZghrBw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <925338.6675.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> <925338.6675.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:19:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b1742cf326fea73c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903021419y2fb5654fv2fae270ce32dd9f9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5baafdc4eb704642a372b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:19:56 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5baafdc4eb704642a372b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, sorry to burst your bubble David, but BRAND NEW EDP=B4s can be bought = for 650 Euros and 70 euros for the footpedals... thats NEW ONES, with Loop 4... I think you need to look a t mre like the price luis suggests... On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:59 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > I see every once in a while the oberheims in ebay U.S. going for about > 400.00 dlss in good condition. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > --001636c5baafdc4eb704642a372b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, sorry to burst your bubble David, but BRAND NEW EDP=B4s can be bought = for 650 Euros and 70 euros for the footpedals... thats NEW ONES, with Loop = 4...

I think you need to look a t mre like the price luis suggests..= .



On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:59 PM, L.A= ngulo <labaloop= s@yahoo.com> wrote:
I see every once in a while the oberheims in ebay U.S. going for about 400.= 00 dlss in good condition.

www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--001636c5baafdc4eb704642a372b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:34:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C3843BEF3; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bvi9sUijxKp8V77euUuHrytbokTVjw2jptRYpAfe1z18fBNz9X8CjNMgM25eFMRn; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 17:33:52 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: New Book... "State of the Axe" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-976089263==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c3eef71811e997166a2de7686dcd9767350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:34:30 +0000 (UTC) --============_-976089263==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Has anyone seen this post? I wonder if I'm even on this list anymore... :-/ I'd like to bring this lovely book to everybody's attention.. It features several great loopers (Trey Gun, Andre LaFosse, Mary Halvorson, David Torn...etc) it's the "who's who" of the cutting edge in guitar: http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300142112 State of the Axe Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words Ralph Gibson; Foreword by Anne Wilkes Tucker; Preface by Les Paul In this appealing book, acclaimed photographer Ralph Gibson offers more than sixty intimate black-and-white portraits of guitar masters playing their instruments. Focusing his expert lens on musicians who have lent their unmistakable voices to virtually every musical genre-jazz, funk, rock, acoustic, blues, fusion, classical, and experimental-Gibson reveals in each photograph the intense relationship of the player with his beloved "axe." The musicians in turn offer individual meditations on the guitar and insights into the passion they share for it. State of the Axe features guitarists across several generations, from early jazz greats to hip modern rockers, as they play their widely varied guitars, including traditional six-strings, double necks, ten-strings, and fretless models. Gibson's images capture the enduring appeal of the instrument and the intense, often rapturous expressions of those who pick, strum, amp, bottleneck, and bow the axe. Fusing his own passions for photography and music, Gibson generates a rhythm of words and images that creates a compelling view of the "state of the axe" today. Among the featured artists: Adrian Belew Nels Cline Jim Hall Mary Halvorson Allan Holdsworth Bill Frisell John McGlaughlin Lou Reed John Scofield Mike Stern Andy Summers James Blood Ulmer Ralph Gibson is an award-winning photographer whose works are in the collections of major museums worldwide. His previous books include Light Strings: Impressions of the Guitar (2004). He divides his time between New York City and Paris, France. Anne Wilkes Tucker is Gus and Lyndall Wortham Curator of Photography at The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston. Les Paul is a revered guitarist. State of the Axe: Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words http://www.amazon.com/State-Axe-Guitar-Masters-Photographs/dp/0300142110 In the UK: http://www.yalebooks.co.uk/yale/display.asp?K=9780300142112&sf1=author&st1=Ralph%20Gibson&m=1&dc=1 -- ... http://www.zmix.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-976089263==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: New Book... "State of the Axe"
Has anyone seen this post? I wonder if I'm even on this list anymore... :-/


I'd like to bring this lovely book to everybody's attention.. It features several great loopers (Trey Gun, Andre LaFosse, Mary Halvorson, David Torn...etc) it's the "who's who" of the cutting edge in guitar:

http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=9780300142112


State of the Axe
Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words
Ralph Gibson; Foreword by Anne Wilkes Tucker; Preface by Les Paul


In this appealing book, acclaimed photographer Ralph Gibson offers more than sixty intimate black-and-white portraits of guitar masters playing their instruments. Focusing his expert lens on musicians who have lent their unmistakable voices to virtually every musical genre-jazz, funk, rock, acoustic, blues, fusion, classical, and experimental-Gibson reveals in each photograph the intense relationship of the player with his beloved "axe."  The musicians in turn offer individual meditations on the guitar and insights into the passion they share for it.
 
State of the Axe features guitarists across several generations, from early jazz greats to hip modern rockers, as they play their widely varied guitars, including traditional six-strings, double necks, ten-strings, and fretless models. Gibson's images capture the enduring appeal of the instrument and the intense, often rapturous expressions of those who pick, strum, amp, bottleneck, and bow the axe. Fusing his own passions for photography and music, Gibson generates a rhythm of words and images that creates a compelling view of the "state of the axe" today.
 
Among the featured artists:
 
Adrian Belew
Nels Cline
Jim Hall
Mary Halvorson
Allan Holdsworth
Bill Frisell
John McGlaughlin
Lou Reed
John Scofield
Mike Stern
Andy Summers
James Blood Ulmer


Ralph Gibson is an award-winning photographer whose works are in the collections of major museums worldwide. His previous books include Light Strings: Impressions of the Guitar (2004). He divides his time between New York City and Paris, France. Anne Wilkes Tucker is Gus and Lyndall Wortham Curator of Photography at The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston. Les Paul is a revered guitarist.

State of the Axe: Guitar Masters in Photographs and Words

http://www.amazon.com/State-Axe-Guitar-Masters-Photographs/dp/0300142110


In the UK:

http://www.yalebooks.co.uk/yale/display.asp?K=9780300142112&sf1=author&st1=Ralph%20Gibson&m=1&dc=1


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--============_-976089263==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:45:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D15993BEE1; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3sMqyLhwFi52IXIJdKH2O8UF5VkruagQwHxHya+1QD7mR0/oCqws9HHuHrf+iswAG/23R+7OJUYB1mSgZ8GPzmo1lfz6JuZtib3bKPaspIt1eQSPrbPYVd/T2DrmtrcnFEMmmsysAmxqi3P6ghdMAoAyojbO9aQZQGllsKYIeF8=; X-YMail-OSG: vEtiSQEVM1mnHDd7PKR1H8hvCOn3DDtkyuDrEu5D1kkhS44npflIW4F7fQ0C5JrYadwRW7iQT5pRqBcP3bKMfmp3Djz6WtR3eQtv1.GDtrrpfrPEqFlELhBxLv3vfeDcsaSEhFwHa_lv5iNQmf0df.4nkrHlZN5PjmBv5l2SMIgEdtjyUEeEoX48FDovpFH15Unx.omndJFdeMRnHIWxCejzF7WTJSzn49y27Cw- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:45:47 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Christopher Willits looks at Looper in Live 8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <55DB863F553140F08B38CE20B4134693@a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <946328.44937.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:45:48 +0000 (UTC) wow that is great! i wish there were more educational looping videos like this. So he has a roland GK pickup is he using the synth sounds from ableton using a midi interface? one thing that seems anoying though is having that click track... i couldnt really recognize everything he has on the floor,looks like a pod,fcb1010 but what is the red box on top of the fbc1010? i wonder if this config will be more flexible than using Mobius syncing exernal hardware,exciting!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Ricky Graham wrote: > From: Ricky Graham > Subject: Christopher Willits looks at Looper in Live 8 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:50 PM > Check it. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnvntSKpYAs > > Ricky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:53:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 311673BEE1; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:53:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zAy719VA31Q3Y340RN6J2kMvU++slk4nMjUtIUC6l5s=; b=O9+g5rn/GzUV+GdZCdQLSA0PxJf7vdGldqapZAMbCTLvS0H4VevO2q3Lh8RN0eBp+t 3Wm28xR66nAoZ7GNhZ2Tfj3ZTUBIHizywNVyzQjtsgjqDotsdNSO6Xi1RbfMX1zoBvXd orZuEF1RIRqpwMQFKz2HyFRGT8lACI4aey+Qw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X65E1W8WkWlm8tzKMK8OKa3umuPjEjDFRh0VyYDq9TgES/TF4hX8Dg1ai4ZTc4z3M/ 8U6f33rJb/lAvFAJPl5dAlucDGKx3ZNjqLerMHnX1I9M2QYB8ZBzEkDx/BbFqf+ZyIZq 1thyQ2QqyQy+IWALZeZ7x18ohfDuNlE+z+jt0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55DB863F553140F08B38CE20B4134693@a> References: <189041.60284.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090121130208.306010@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901210528p36053dcfk91dae6c1f2110b2b@mail.gmail.com> <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903021333g6df94a3dla57a15c189b187f@mail.gmail.com> <55DB863F553140F08B38CE20B4134693@a> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:53:07 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903021453s14f47f37v1655c6e30c3eaf63@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Christopher Willits looks at Looper in Live 8 From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:53:08 +0000 (UTC) I took a class on Ableton with Willits at the Bay Area Video Coalition, and I thought it was excellent. Apparently, he also teaches Max classes. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 22:57:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A3893BEEC; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:57:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=d8IBmS4UZ8vuVlXVlBE48nwxb1EAdDcNNlwKeHKSo/3YzK/U/WCq2G5qzHfKrenYUbhtL6U4YaFxD7QNttxX5rD5LAJrZT4C+73Kso4V3eJtgZSFZN60gcPVsDI3IaoyySzrxmuB02mf6gnTMUU+J0NvuX40iDqGv19ehPkb4pI=; X-YMail-OSG: qgxlHgIVM1kSaizbwXxQvK8EYYdoJxl8LQ8rDgsRGLGwf7eTxHKKvxKk_eLHoGGBTQIQhSUEWv5qU8NxrxntrPDRRghVh9Trx4QetHWVgFeyMMex8WOq.KIGAVprWe1iz7wGMFQYGwUbfV3GYdTSApfiLEohOVBuWqR15oYE.NFpVE6yKN4PgAmiSNO31g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:57:24 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <737574.56740.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:57:25 +0000 (UTC) IMHO there is no sense in really doing that really,i just try to know the root and from there i construct my own version of chords,treat it like a diferent instument,it might sound more interesting.There are people using open tunings out there that have translated everything from the standard tuning and for me it doesnt really sound that exciting anymore.I usually dont play any scales or translate chords,i play really simple one or 2 string melodies with open tunings,but sometimes i do like to play the same scale i use in standard tuning and hearing something completely coming out,thats the fun of it! Luis > > > > What really amazes me however is... do you guys reall > RE-learn all your > > scales and chords for all these different tunings? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 23:08:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D14303BEE4; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ICxXpT8b0TV5yyM1F5LtrGs01F/UJX7UILzFIU2IxoBuNykO1OpsQaQ0SHnP6HQrpQClL6AmXsSesuHtiePhq7pJIyhWb63RvOSoXuw0KcEVtHWYobSpTeZbuSHM+sn9tN5bIZWAmygGPeeiy+h0C/53pLDJqo17Cr+2X3IEnNg=; X-YMail-OSG: YzxmSX0VM1kiATuB362kFEL.2dBieE6hod_wtkSbCftWn9Tz_CscgMRDQ7YX1bgskS47_J6NKu3CEbGDwRdq_dksja8bI0wpnLLc5wkNnnOOIWWQ0wm0jePJvOL6gSZLV0FYa.coC7gzH1HwrdVrT2rCfOV82We1KjPkfwj_jX7gG0iOzsOz_2cicHmNVuLpMdnna2ssGGqS8l50ZQd5niCZmN1Fjx7Xnv8TNKk- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:08:14 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: cool vibes on ice To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <101325.56952.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:08:14 +0000 (UTC) wow brrrrrrrrrr! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 2/25/09, samba - wrote: > From: samba - > Subject: cool vibes on ice > To: > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:53 PM > http://www.sciam.com/video.cfm?id=14089954001 > > ------------------------------------Thank you, very > much.Patrick DonEgan > electricvehicles@mac.com > http://www.flyingdiscproductions.com > Data is not information, Information is not knowledge, > Knowledge is not understanding, Understanding is not wisdom. > > Clifford Stoll From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 23:41:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91B9A3BEE4; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_62c6ace5-1088-4a69-8589-cb95608a45fc_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:41:13 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <737574.56740.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <737574.56740.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 23:41:13.0795 (UTC) FILETIME=[5F94C130:01C99B90] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:41:14 +0000 (UTC) --_62c6ace5-1088-4a69-8589-cb95608a45fc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree=2C alternate tunings is a great way to do something different. BUT= in the context of instrumental music I see a risk that what i find as "dif= ferent" and "interesting" sounds in an alternate tuning is just me being am= azed over the sound that comes out. It is really hard=2C for me at least=2C= to do any real improvising in alternate tuning. It's more like what Luis d= escribes=2C i see it almost as accidents that HOPEFULLY sounds cool. But I'= m nit sure i would call it improvising... I really admire horn player=2C Mi= les=2C Trane that could always find new music to play with their instrument= s. I would love to have the control over phrasing and note choice that horn= great players have.=20 On the other hand a reason I love looping is all the mistakes I make that f= orces me to find a creative way out. (BTW i have just posted a new "mistake= " piece in alternate tuning on soundclick) =20 Greetings=2C =20 Anders=20 www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl =20 >=20 > IMHO there is no sense in really doing that really=2Ci just try to know t= he root and from there i construct my own version of chords=2Ctreat it like= a diferent instument=2Cit might sound more interesting.There are people us= ing open tunings out there that have translated everything from the standar= d tuning and for me it doesnt really sound that exciting anymore.I usually = dont play any scales or translate chords=2Ci play really simple one or 2 st= ring melodies with open tunings=2Cbut sometimes i do like to play the same = scale i use in standard tuning and hearing something completely coming out= =2Cthats the fun of it! > Luis --_62c6ace5-1088-4a69-8589-cb95608a45fc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 =3BI agree=2C alternate tunings is a great way to =3Bdo someth= ing different. BUT in the context of instrumental music I see a risk that w= hat i find as "different" and "interesting" sounds in an alternate tuning i= s just me being amazed over the sound =3Bthat comes out. It is really h= ard=2C for me at least=2C to do any real =3Bimprovising in alternate tu= ning. It's more like what Luis describes=2C i see it almost as accidents th= at HOPEFULLY sounds cool. But I'm nit sure i would call it improvising... I= really admire horn player=2C Miles=2C Trane that could always find new mus= ic to play with their instruments. I would love to have the control over ph= rasing and note choice that horn great players have.
On the other hand = a reason =3BI love looping is all the mistakes I make that forces me to= find a creative way out. (BTW i have just posted a new =3B"mistake" pi= ece in alternate tuning on soundclick)
 =3B
Greetings=2C
 = =3B
Anders
www.= soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl

 =3B

>=3B
>=3B = IMHO there is no sense in really doing that really=2Ci just try to know the= root and from there i construct my own version of chords=2Ctreat it like a= diferent instument=2Cit might sound more interesting.There are people usin= g open tunings out there that have translated everything from the standard = tuning and for me it doesnt really sound that exciting anymore.I usually do= nt play any scales or translate chords=2Ci play really simple one or 2 stri= ng melodies with open tunings=2Cbut sometimes i do like to play the same sc= ale i use in standard tuning and hearing something completely coming out=2C= thats the fun of it!
>=3B Luis



= --_62c6ace5-1088-4a69-8589-cb95608a45fc_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 23:43:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 997AE3BEE6; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q3R1TokOc89vs1d7KtXEp34ZskIjuwnOEw7Zpa1i6Cg=; b=jnNmZnB1SEDorFCGimSpaOnWlF4x8NvAXvVr+o4KS/gxUZM8M1kRXt+bz2g962jlBU fm9tSB0P9jIJcyCLAIVoNe/jsaGMSvZLmekK7JPu3QnZpRkBz4qv0ypDTArNG8KZ+bSm OB4fboAP8qZQ+VsjykBV8grvikdyZAUMkmDVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ze99nNLutnaDlPkf+iIdz9/94M0vGa6zwuTD05b38kIOr6SGnBlzl20cRUsofcQera /6Ttbsy8tXi9tEdTrIvnC0wgLG37x7U93EfLj2VRHPShtbOe9u9z0AvYesb2dpQEsk6M p+LAzrMnSy56Yibt1zzTW+BtlmVtTkfY09tms= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:43:29 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32d06b9075504642b624a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:43:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32d06b9075504642b624a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose by story and not story I more meant pre thought story vs found in the moment story, if going by the meanings I see you utilizing. For yes, music is inherently about story telling in it's nature. So... how many folks pre think their story, and how many find it finding them, perhaps is a better question? Or since many of us probably do both, tell how each comes up in your music making (question for all)? -nn happyhumans.org On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > But I think your questions are missing > the point that music actually is about telling a story. Myself I do > both composing, mixing and live looping gigs of > composed music arranged for looping as well as freely improvised live > looping music. And I think the storytelling aspect is just the same > and as important in all these outlets. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > --000e0cd32d06b9075504642b624a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I suppose by story and not story I more meant pre thought story vs found in= the moment story, if going by the meanings I see you utilizing.=A0 For yes= , music is inherently about story telling in it's nature.=A0 So... how = many folks pre think their story, and how many find it finding them, perhap= s is a better question?=A0 Or since many of us probably do both, tell how e= ach comes up in your music making (question for all)?

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
But I think your = questions are missing
the point that music actually is about telling a story. Myself I do
both composing, mixing and live looping gigs of
composed music arranged for looping as well as freely improvised live
looping music. And I think the storytelling aspect is just the same
and as important in all these outlets.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com


--000e0cd32d06b9075504642b624a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 23:45:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC97E3BEE4; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:45:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9c72ce2e-f3b3-4e07-b3f4-0ae7b1bcbaa8_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:45:43 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903021152i30390482l64716169efe608cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <49A9D67D.5090906@post.cybercity.dk> <518740.71044.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903010223gcdd2ba2n3b1ea47aa18de36@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903010227g641e5d7v6a2ab17e4b08ae34@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903021152i30390482l64716169efe608cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 23:45:44.0135 (UTC) FILETIME=[00B75D70:01C99B91] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:45:44 +0000 (UTC) --_9c72ce2e-f3b3-4e07-b3f4-0ae7b1bcbaa8_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TACKAR OCH BOCKAR=2C =20 My I ask why you like it=2C i hesitated posting it since it sounded sort of= out..... One of the most intresting you heard=2C can't be that bad then=20 I really appreciate you're comments=2C and others comments=2C I'm here to l= earn. =20 Anders www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl > From: perboysen@gmail.com >=20 > To me your BIC C is one of the most interesting guitar looping pieces > I've heard. Keep up that great work=2C Anders! >=20 > Per >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Mon=2C Mar 2=2C 2009 at 5:20 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl > wrote: > > > > I tried a fith/regular tuning in one of my Swans (27" scale length inte= nded > > for standard tuning) with a ordinary 010 set and it work just FINE. The > > tuning is CGD (5ths) and the standard guitar tuning GBE (actually the f= our > > thinner strings are in standard tuning) > > Made a LONG clip with it=2C 17 minutes of improvisation called BIG C: > > www.Soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl > > The Soloway Swans are great for lower tunings and sound great in regula= r > > tuning as well=2C without string change.. > > www.jimsoloway.com > > Good looping instruments :-)=2C Jim designed the guitars for solo jazz = playing > > and the grand piano style tone these guitars have is great for all sort= s of > > solo/looping styles as well as great all around guitars. Try one!! You = can > > get a loaner from Jim or visit me in Stockholm. --_9c72ce2e-f3b3-4e07-b3f4-0ae7b1bcbaa8_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TACKAR OCH BOCKAR=2C
 =3B
My =3BI ask why you like it=2C i hesitated posting it since it sounded = sort of out..... One of the most intresting you heard=2C can't be that bad = then 3D""
I really appreciate you're comments=2C and others comments=2C I'm here to l= earn.
 =3B
Anders
www.soundclick.com/And= ersBergdahl

>=3B From: = perboysen@gmail.com
>=3B
>=3B To me your BIC C is one of the= most interesting guitar looping pieces
>=3B I've heard. Keep up that = great work=2C Anders!
>=3B
>=3B Per
>=3B
>=3B
>= =3B
>=3B On Mon=2C Mar 2=2C 2009 at 5:20 PM=2C Anders Bergdahl
>= =3B <=3Banders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
>=3B >=3B
&g= t=3B >=3B I tried =3Ba fith/regular tuning in one of my Swans (27" sc= ale length intended
>=3B >=3B for standard tuning) with a =3Bord= inary 010 set and it work just FINE. The
>=3B >=3B tuning is CGD (5t= hs) and the standard guitar tuning =3BGBE (actually the four
>=3B = >=3B thinner strings are in standard tuning)
>=3B >=3B Made a = =3BLONG clip with it=2C 17 minutes of improvisation called BIG C:
>=3B= >=3B www.Soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl
>=3B >=3B The Soloway = =3BSwans are great for lower tunings and sound great in regular
>=3B &= gt=3B tuning as well=2C without string change..
>=3B >=3B www.jimsol= oway.com
>=3B >=3B Good looping instruments :-)=2C Jim designed the = guitars for solo jazz playing
>=3B >=3B and the grand piano style to= ne these guitars have is great for all sorts of
>=3B >=3B solo/loopi= ng styles as well as great all around guitars. Try one!! You can
>=3B = >=3B get a loaner from Jim or visit me in Stockholm.
= --_9c72ce2e-f3b3-4e07-b3f4-0ae7b1bcbaa8_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 23:48:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D8033BEE1; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:48:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=n2fPYkjYxhb4VbjriLRw9BageNIpVHAxH+w/nMs/2rfAUHoQ76krmIZM3A+5j8awIkQMAUGS+9myqqnb873HdrpUVLgHMLn+gkhgyCr0i7wqgi8q9XQ8XzbEQ8/klyw5MYrX1KukmyjXhXrrsJ1LJXPaotMK5x8WxQn9ihlS6k0=; X-YMail-OSG: lqLUN.MVM1mDj6UbJw_AKW06hyzcD3_I1D3N72mvUJn0V49AgIfb6wNTx.fo4wPargy_KcYJiQhhjpwrGSDwRcTE.qMGHeDjpn98pDEGlQ.w.IvNuaUSmWKzwDWdhRkYQPLtTYi7CX_hGo7GEPI7ILhqZqKqPpUXurDegTk80FYmU4WlKP584zwKD53Wi0__A_u5Di3Bm51ZThE_QNkIeMI5jyytGbwNEXcQd4U- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:48:44 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <817628.61710.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:48:46 +0000 (UTC) very nice Anders! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > From: Anders Bergdahl > Subject: RE: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options > To: "Loopers Delight" > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 3:41 PM > I agree, alternate tunings is a great way to do something > different. BUT in the context of instrumental music I see a > risk that what i find as "different" and > "interesting" sounds in an alternate tuning is > just me being amazed over the sound that comes out. It is > really hard, for me at least, to do any real improvising in > alternate tuning. It's more like what Luis describes, i > see it almost as accidents that HOPEFULLY sounds cool. But > I'm nit sure i would call it improvising... I really > admire horn player, Miles, Trane that could always find new > music to play with their instruments. I would love to have > the control over phrasing and note choice that horn great > players have. > On the other hand a reason I love looping is all the > mistakes I make that forces me to find a creative way out. > (BTW i have just posted a new "mistake" piece in > alternate tuning on soundclick) > > Greetings, > > Anders > www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl > > > > > > > IMHO there is no sense in really doing that really,i > just try to know the root and from there i construct my own > version of chords,treat it like a diferent instument,it > might sound more interesting.There are people using open > tunings out there that have translated everything from the > standard tuning and for me it doesnt really sound that > exciting anymore.I usually dont play any scales or translate > chords,i play really simple one or 2 string melodies with > open tunings,but sometimes i do like to play the same scale > i use in standard tuning and hearing something completely > coming out,thats the fun of it! > > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 2 23:54:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3469F3BEF1; Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:54:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_5a5fe099-92ce-47bb-914e-80b8d32a1548_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: looper vs storyteller. if there even is Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:54:19 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2009 23:54:20.0273 (UTC) FILETIME=[345BC610:01C99B92] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:54:21 +0000 (UTC) --_5a5fe099-92ce-47bb-914e-80b8d32a1548_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of musi= c tells a STORY!! It can't really=2C can it? Can there be meaning in an imp= rovisation?? Is there meaning in a composition? What is the meaning with "g= reen onions" or Bethovens 5th or Kind of blue. A story needs meaning=2C doe= sn't it?? I would say that my attempts at looping tells a story but soloing over back= ings does not. And there where not that much storytelling in playing "Sweet= home alabama" in a cover band :-) =20 But WHY do we feel that some music tells a STORY=2C there are no narrative = elements=2C we clearly mean something else than a story in a book=2C don't = we? SORRY I do like to read philosophy=2C Wittgenstein and that type of stuff. = I feel that we use story in a very loose an undefined we=2C are we playing = the same game? =20 Good night=2C Anders www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl =20 Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 15:43:29 -0800 Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: nevynnowhere@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com I suppose by story and not story I more meant pre thought story vs found in= the moment story=2C if going by the meanings I see you utilizing. For yes= =2C music is inherently about story telling in it's nature. So... how many= folks pre think their story=2C and how many find it finding them=2C perhap= s is a better question? Or since many of us probably do both=2C tell how e= ach comes up in your music making (question for all)? -nn happyhumans.org On Mon=2C Mar 2=2C 2009 at 6:52 AM=2C Per Boysen wrot= e: But I think your questions are missing the point that music actually is about telling a story. Myself I do both composing=2C mixing and live looping gigs of composed music arranged for looping as well as freely improvised live looping music. And I think the storytelling aspect is just the same and as important in all these outlets. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com --_5a5fe099-92ce-47bb-914e-80b8d32a1548_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of musi= c tells a STORY!! It can't really=2C can it? Can there be meaning in an imp= rovisation?? Is =3Bthere meaning in a composition? What is the meaning = with "green onions" or Bethovens 5th or Kind of blue. A story needs meaning= =2C doesn't =3Bit??
I would say that my attempts at looping tells a story but soloing over back= ings does not. And there where not that much storytelling in playing "Sweet= home alabama" in a cover band :-)
 =3B
But WHY do we feel that some music tells a STORY=2C there are no narrative = elements=2C we clearly mean something else than a story in a book=2C don't = we?
SORRY I do like to read philosophy=2C Wittgenstein and that type of stuff. = I feel that we use story in a very loose an undefined we=2C are we playing = the same game?
 =3B
Good night=2C

Anders
www.soundclick.com/And= ersBergdahl
 =3B
Date: Mon=2C 2 Mar 2009 15:43:29 -0800
Subject: Re: looper vs storytelle= r. if there even is
From: nevynnowhere@gmail.com
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com

I suppose by story and not story I more meant pr= e thought story vs found in the moment story=2C if going by the meanings I = see you utilizing. =3B For yes=2C music is inherently about story telli= ng in it's nature. =3B So... how many folks pre think their story=2C an= d how many find it finding them=2C perhaps is a better question? =3B Or= since many of us probably do both=2C tell how each comes up in your music = making (question for all)?

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Mon=2C Mar 2=2C 2009 at 6:52 AM=2C Per Boyse= n <=3Bperboysen@gm= ail.com>=3B wrote:
But I think = your questions are missing
the point that music actually is about tellin= g a story. Myself I do
both composing=2C mixing and live looping gigs of=
composed music arranged for looping as well as freely improvised livelooping music. And I think the storytelling aspect is just the same
an= d as important in all these outlets.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boy= sen.se
www.perboysen.com


= --_5a5fe099-92ce-47bb-914e-80b8d32a1548_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 00:03:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B1C73BEEC; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Wrk+n23AraxxFq6J2I/Glv5rZKrbKUK6GPqm4qnmHVpx8CKdlRy9xckZ0u56qO7/nN17yMa5hQTvgcDvBeI0Fuh8/bbOy8acQSXnCG/U5ZTN58L9V4nWOxQzUlPYE+fHuy86NW99HkEhi9YpJdEIB5jHj62TszJCTRWv0NVbZIo=; X-YMail-OSG: 1FABB9YVM1nWEvpBln9UNPa0LMFTVJdjPEXAu.fYrAvFjY0DoKxJUiOnjgiAei0CanDBd..Noygu8by74ez8vEsfHOq0VTOZx9EMITGvcK.HJ_XHWiCegH11XUmLzZvlBw4FLhD7aTZXmWYciFLIDrJ8h0xos2DOr28KD7sWov0zWyMCHtoxelfKlw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:03:08 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Tremol-No To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: billwalker@baymoon.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0902250304p1aad6d13w46b1d3da8b6fcd7a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <226779.26301.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 00:03:09 +0000 (UTC) hey Bill, I was not aware of this thank you!it certainly looks like a great tremolo i= ssue problem solution! questions: Does it also take care of the out of tune problems when using the tremolo h= eavily floating or flat? Did you install it yourself or do you recomend somebody else doing it? How would it differ with something like the hipshot tremsetter? I have a fernandes sustainer native pro guitar and the tremolo on it just s= ucks i cant hardly use it as it goes out of tune so bad,on the other hand i= hate the floyd rose system so i am trying to find a good solution. Ive installed the planet waves locking tuner though they havent cure the pr= oblem that much cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Re: Tremol-No > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 3:04 AM > Googled it and found http://www.tremol-no.com and watched > the demo > videos. This is a great thing for a studio guitarist! One > example is > playing country licks on a floating bar strat. You > typically pull up > one string while holding one or two others not pulled. The > tension > from the pulled-up string interacts with the mechanics to > lower the > pitch of all strings, including the ones you play > non-pulled. The way > I have been forced to do this - on a floating bar strat - > is to > compensate for that by pulling up the pitch just a little > with the > wammy bar as I pull the string. May sound cool if you use > the whammy > for an additional vibrato but it is not pure country style. > But when > setting the tremol-no to fixed it will behave just like a > non-floating > strat. Nice. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Andreas Willers > wrote: > > Bill wrote: =A0I have a thing called a tremel-no in > place of one of my trem > > springs that allows me to fix the bridge.... > > > > Bill, > > you are always hip to the latest stuff. Wow - I'll > make each of my guitar > > students with a whammy bar guitar buy one ;-) > > > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 01:57:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69A343BEDF; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49AC8D48.3010501@soundscapes.us> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:52:08 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Last.fm References: <24863970.1235127226243.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <24863970.1235127226243.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 01:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: > I have been using last.fm for the last week and I really like it. It looks to me as a good platform to promote your own music and discover new artists. Better than myspace imo. Let me just say: http://last.fm/music/Pinnacle/Meld http://last.fm/music/Pinnacle/A+Man%27s+Reach... http://last.fm/music/Pinnacle (All bands called Pinnacle) This is for you Prog Rockers out there. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 02:28:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0B2F3BEDF; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=x84kXsQjf2VQatl7bUABWbq8cv1lSY2+ZpvIbB3vFzU=; b=NPqoRonhbZs7VEFxetqmdsd7fzkXLWA8dnpeUMYXV3yc3mtNOom+DozLFWRTYBKCCa AirYkctgzsAietQYmL31cOwvaV15XOqlUy5w5YxVS+l2DHknN7QewnbRypjnW21Eygop BC6N7MpC1eAvetnlmlqtIfQt115/ED9f0nzmU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mkRuKC6xLIcQcevB5x9ohlV0iIZCJ0gzoXv+ZGH7zf9HKon3/GDTRCkKK6YS0B94YH uDFwR3FgxZ2elDWo82XoNY7HUJ0Hlk6k0dW9m15JgOxsDYumdPrDD31k2wAAbiyw/+tY PcT5rl+bZgVPDc+ZPB4iI5WboIiRUzwfqAzzU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> References: <189041.60284.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20090121130208.306010@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0901210528p36053dcfk91dae6c1f2110b2b@mail.gmail.com> <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 03:28:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 02:28:31 +0000 (UTC) if you're not going to die for starvation this month i advise to keep the machine. i racked mine some months ago, went the sw path with mobius. but i think it can be a saver if the puter dies some days before an important gig. anyhow, thinking about the actual world depression, maybe it's time to sell= it, next year will be a bunch of those on ebay owned by starvating loopsits ;-) ... like me! ra=FCl. 2009/3/2 David Hayes : > > > I'm going to put my EDP for sale. What do you think I should ask for it? > This is the Oberhiem one which works perfecltly but it does have one line= of > one of the digital displays out (so the top of one 0 or 8=A0doesn't displ= ay, > for example.) Also it has the loop 3 version software rather then the new= er > loop 4, but there's not that many differences really. > I figure I'll just throw in the footswitch because it needs new buttons > (only like $2-5 per =A0button, if memory serves, but takes time to find '= em > and solder them and pay someone to do it.) > New EDP's (and from my brief web search just now they seem they to be ver= y > hard to come by) I think are $1000 > (http://www.musiciansnews.com/guitars/34/gibson_tge05_echoplex_digital_pr= o_plus.shtml)=A0=A0plus > $150 for the footswitch (that was the range I remember when I bought mine= , > not even sure you can get the footswitch new. > So, given all that do you think that $600 is too steep to put it on line > for? > Much thanks! --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 06:22:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C16E03BED3; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49ACCC85.7050408@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 22:21:57 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 06:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Steve wrote: ".while we're talking netiquette, it's still considered shouting by most web-users to write things all in capitals on email lists and forums......just sayin' ;)" Actually I do know that Steve and I have made this request three or four times this year alone and was shouting on purpose. If I bugged you, I apologize. I was just trying to get people's attention, specifically because speaking in a polite tone of voice over and over doesn't seem to get a response. It's a fascinating phemomenon, though........................without the use of HTML (underlining and bold letters) there seems no way to be emphatic when speaking as in conversation when you are writing online. I get frustrated with net communication sometimes because I want to be emphatic but without the use of underlining, it pushes buttons if one capitalizes. If this bothers people here in general, I'll stop doing it, I promise. Let me know. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 07:16:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA72A3BED6; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:16:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xXgLPm/mEN/3mI9eIjrrzBk3KdBEeswCMOFzNXLbvKc=; b=gb6e43hKhr3hPI93Qj/vpGPT8eHDTyoU6sZBBCtjaevAdpBjSbfrgwtlC+1SFZzVD3 YIRciAPUYNX0FYxzAMn0R1XxAf57SjH/ZrPMXbrZ9rn55s+fdrYkCIZlSb7LZhGjp5oK k0t9IOQ5cOU3JfEi5S7F1QuKWrhRzdFsFrmYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VOl30c1StXALMfYcvS0hCZ/CVjtsNv0E2DfIs4P+7uSdYS5pZvkWb9bI/TR2nkkPWc w3SGZX4IfKNAyKz9aJ/jNrbdTS2Kqxxt8OP9vG8Zrds8mewRZmQ57iAqZxzc8EwfO3eR 0ZqI5T6Pf5ikZVItuw/5+0DQGlbY33NVNREZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:16:22 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903022316x6ffa19c8x2952a4ae44a58844@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Mikkoz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a9825714f1046431b699 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:16:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6a9825714f1046431b699 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I take it to loosely mean "go on a mental voyage". Does the piece do that for you or not? I prefer not to try and attach specific mental constructs while I'm listening and just relish the sounds. -m On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of > music tells a STORY!! It can't really, can it? Can there be meaning in an > improvisation?? > --000e0cd6a9825714f1046431b699 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I take it to loosely mean "go on a mental voyage".=A0 Does the pi= ece do that for you or not?=A0 I prefer not to try and attach specific ment= al constructs while I'm listening and just relish the sounds.=A0 -m
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On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anders Bergdahl = <ande= rs_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of musi= c tells a STORY!! It can't really, can it? Can there be meaning in an i= mprovisation??

--000e0cd6a9825714f1046431b699-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 07:22:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3EBA3BED6; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gEsmgyGNjz0YKEjAqdYMbJPXuqxgIBUXjcmMu//FtlE=; b=gbS63EZKVwhyTfptAzPa4JaUd4vmHjwAinVGeN0viBxWELVjZjYycLezhMue4vFoNZ z9Lcy77ITv7mn1HNQ7FHgODGy8jtlH0d9Feqhyj4VI67pOWgg/0gcrNA88iM6OFFbCMQ sIVAeaKP4pQ2mXNRa2Ksfsl9dLwDycAeVJ6kM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lPS88fmcb+9gO877cQK3avbsPn+8B/M9CDZolfotvIUEW1BtiykmaDhHbhXINZlG1i QlnUfpav4i55bbcx4qsVnq+2FlU+hN4PNq+wZ4Y5GjusTsexYZOn5YM4GkxYp382j7d3 j2qlWz9zzl/1nptRRERzK+Ox1NG/OYZKh+lPw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49ACCC85.7050408@cruzio.com> References: <49ACCC85.7050408@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:22:35 -0800 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903022322j7b882e25i29e1a9ebb1dd8044@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: Mikkoz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd58d90934781046431cc8d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:22:35 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd58d90934781046431cc8d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SO GET SOME EARPLUGS ALREADY! I also resent having to put in my hearing aid to read all the lower-case "whispering". Are they talking about me?! What are they saying now???! SPEAK UP!!! etc. ad infinitum. -m On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Steve wrote: > ".while we're talking netiquette, it's still considered shouting by most > web-users to write things all in capitals on email lists and > forums......just sayin' ;)" > > Actually I do know that Steve and I have made this request three or four > times this year alone > and was shouting on purpose. > If I bugged you, I apologize. > --000e0cd58d90934781046431cc8d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SO GET SOME EARPLUGS ALREADY!=A0 I also resent having to put in my hearing = aid to read all the lower-case "whispering".=A0 Are they talking = about me?! What are they saying now???! SPEAK UP!!! etc. ad infinitum.=A0 -= m

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Rick Walker= <looppool@cruz= io.com> wrote:
Steve wrote:
".while we're talking netiquette, it's still considered shouti= ng by =A0most web-users to write things all in capitals on email lists and = =A0forums......just sayin' ;)"

Actually I do know that Steve and I have made this request three or four ti= mes this year alone
and was shouting on purpose. =A0
If I bugged you, =A0I apologize.

--000e0cd58d90934781046431cc8d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 08:26:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 260493BED9; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=778gA41r9rrQb4kx1uzbAApA0RzsF+8J5S+/USEPSx0=; b=ij75COZTa1qKp4RAIVGknvbxf+P30ZsAetXn6RhgseTuJOki7ENpgVsZ88l+MIWDVY gQpo0qONBn11gghcpFeemiXIOWBhOG7gbzHfymfqgJKMUivyoODGQkYqK0RmPSaBjwIL F2yY2m1JqvnBwBG5zonj/ELv4l8P72IEdh2po= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bpojvZi4kzs1o23XS9EVvRXQ6leeKu3Irk0aDLha//JdAA+suquxhlacS9fTb52I6E Fwyoxm3BPS8kt42SgXdUfzAiYQFck1oH1ulYG3BTBV8BTXeab1uyYGE+ZHU8Da5R+WpM bjFSBLkXb2iLg7DgIsPXe6J54/KH5sIVyDAas= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:26:22 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903030026k59801965q48a2d1503d2e6aa5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:26:28 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > I would say that my attempts at looping tells a story but soloing over > backings does not. I agree. > And there where not that much storytelling in playing > "Sweet home alabama" in a cover band :-) In music with vocals the lyrics also weighs in to bring over "the story", hopefully the same story as the music is about. And a story doesn't have to be long and evolving. It can as well be just about delivering a sudden impact of a mode or attitude. wrote: > pre think their story? Composition are of course always "pre thinked". When doing improvised music my "pre thinking" exists as decided attitudes, strategies and modes. I think everyone knows what I mean with attitude and mode, but strategy may need some explanation. One important strategic aspect in improvisation is the use of time. Before starting to play, or before making a change to the music, I center myself into a time strategy; making the decision whether I will start a process to be going on for a long or short time, the exact time it will stop and the goal it arrive at. Another often used strategy is the number of "embryos" you set off in the music. With "embryo" I mean something that has an identity of its own; a theme, a sound or an emotional entity. These embryos has also to be given their unique character as a way to interact between each other; themes may go close together (as the multi part guitar solo in Hotel California, to take a bold example) or they can stay apart by counterpoint and merely imply the main theme without it ever being explicitly played - but a listener will even so hear the un-played main theme in his/her mind. I call this "a psychedelic technique" and use it as much as I can. A third strategy that is important is how to start and end a musical improvisation. Especially when playing together with one or two other musicians I find this an important storytelling tool. Music is not the sound you produce but the reactions it evokes in the listener. There is a lot more of "pre thinking" than this to improvisation, but the above is fine as an example. A common misunderstanding is that improvising music means just doing anything out of nowhere. Regarding composition I think of it as "synthesized improvisation". The composer puts time and effort into "re-creating" and improvisational situation in order to optimize the expression. One can also compose extremely intricate music that the real-time performer needs looping devices to come up with during improvisation. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 08:53:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AB7B3BED9; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4g80gnpBy+jrJ1LXht5nqg1OVOM7cZjVYJ0uy6UJKwk=; b=t/YNAAw9jw/EVC9eR8Q7SK9lrCKucP3ibp0quhAqeTKcZvCez2/6kST8q85n1uuFno +xh546ygj+hLmuCja3FJ4ACYBvFy6pMfXidqelHqYLaxlv0lZWUKyFMasXvO3oT/j3lV qzGOrh10WvMTEnMSbbCDNLCFH45cmpb8W4hZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LKUecs3HaUu8akRFNXHpx0FFna4nL2vN890IN/i/VC9jmctAueMBtYAS3iyHldArQO zGz3CZ5CYeJGhOGhSUFl3bph1ACKWHe0uO+vAmlRQXEcY1bARMoA+a4JoYdIMGm2WMJo JHWx2EHFXLC6YMCl3w7jgpqLkOEthvDWPuELs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:53:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 120a1e17eba1f112 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b6211369f204643313a6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:53:55 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b6211369f204643313a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anders, But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of music > tells a STORY!! It can't really, can it? I agree. I've always been a bit wary of 'storytelling' with relation to music. A bit too PoMo for my liking. Music can have structure and development - even reference and syntax.. But these are only analogous to the form of textual narrative. There's no actual story going on. What I find fascinating about music is that it can evoke an emotional response *without* any actual concrete emotional content. IOW without any 'story'. Just soundwaves impinging on neurons. Ian --001636c5b6211369f204643313a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anders,

But what do we mean when we say that an abstrac= t instrumental peice of music tells a STORY!! It can't really, can it?<= /blockquote>

I agree. I've always been a bit wary of 'storyt= elling' with relation to music. A bit too PoMo for my liking.

Music can have structure and development - even reference a= nd syntax.. But these are only analogous to the form of textual narrative. = There's no actual story going on. What I find fascinating about music i= s that it can evoke an emotional response *without* any actual concrete emo= tional content. IOW without any 'story'. Just soundwaves impinging = on neurons.

Ian

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--001636c5b6211369f204643313a6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 09:09:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAB333BED8; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:09:32 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:09:34 +0000 (UTC) > Rick wrote: > I was just trying to get people's attention, specifically because > speaking in a polite tone of voice over and over doesn't seem to get a = > response. How many people have subscribed this mailing list? Any idea? Btw: who's o= wns this mailing list. I suppose Kim Flint? Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a community l= ike this. I would prefer a forum website, that offers many more options f= or everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and grow even more if = we would move in this direction. I'm open for discussion regarding hosting and sponsoring. But I leave the= initiative to the current owner(s) of this mailing list to contact me. my 2 cents ;) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 09:21:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 920FD3BED6; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49ACF877.1090506@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:29:27 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list References: <49ACCC85.7050408@cruzio.com> <3fa302e30903022322j7b882e25i29e1a9ebb1dd8044@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30903022322j7b882e25i29e1a9ebb1dd8044@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Honestly, I don't really understand the need for discussing etiquette in here.. I find this list one of the most peaceful ones - maybe because you guys'n'girls loop so nicely around the topics ;) Just go poking on usenet, it can often quite a different experience.. Just my .2€.. Mikkoz wrote: > SO GET SOME EARPLUGS ALREADY! I also resent having to put in my hearing > aid to read all the lower-case "whispering". Are they talking about > me?! What are they saying now???! SPEAK UP!!! etc. ad infinitum. -m > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > Steve wrote: > ".while we're talking netiquette, it's still considered shouting by > most web-users to write things all in capitals on email lists and > forums......just sayin' ;)" > > Actually I do know that Steve and I have made this request three or > four times this year alone and was shouting on purpose. > If I bugged you, I apologize. -- rgds, van Sinn The reason why E A D G b E is the predominant tuning is to make it easier to remember the notes with little memory tricks like: "Even After Death God Bothers Everyone" -- from alt.guitar From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 09:32:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 571613BED8; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d57e7804-4e4d-40d9-8c94-1d02db286145_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: looper vs storyteller. if there even is Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:32:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 09:32:23.0782 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5574060:01C99BE2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:32:26 +0000 (UTC) --_d57e7804-4e4d-40d9-8c94-1d02db286145_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian=2C Yeah=2C my feeling is that we might do music a disservice by relating it to= "stories"=2C as Per points out many instrumental pieces are more of an emo= tional journey=2C with some structure and development. But tio try to relat= e that to "story" which for my implies word and plot and narrative elements= seems strange. Rather we try to get into the feel you get from following t= he development of a story without the narrative elements. Its perhaps more = that certain kinds of music and narratives/stories are going for the same e= motional response but with very different means.. for me music=2C and paint= ing=2C have the advantage that it can go way beyond words=2C directly to ou= r emotions... =20 Anders Anders=2C But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of musi= c tells a STORY!! It can't really=2C can it? I agree. I've always been a bit wary of 'storytelling' with relation to mus= ic. A bit too PoMo for my liking. Music can have structure and development - even reference and syntax.. But = these are only analogous to the form of textual narrative. There's no actua= l story going on. What I find fascinating about music is that it can evoke = an emotional response *without* any actual concrete emotional content. IOW = without any 'story'. Just soundwaves impinging on neurons. Ian =20 --_d57e7804-4e4d-40d9-8c94-1d02db286145_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ian=2C
Yeah=2C my feeling is that we might do music a disservice by relating it to= "stories"=2C as Per points out many instrumental pieces are more =3Bof= an emotional journey=2C with some structure and development. But tio try t= o relate that to "story" which for my implies word and plot and narrative e= lements seems strange. Rather we try to get into the feel you get from foll= owing the development of a story without the narrative elements. Its perhap= s more that certain kinds =3Bof music and narratives/stories =3Bare= going for the same emotional response but with very different means.. for = me music=2C and painting=2C =3Bhave the advantage that it can go way be= yond words=2C directly to our emotions...
 =3B
Anders

Anders=2C

But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrum= ental peice of music tells a STORY!! It can't really=2C can it?

I agree. I've always been a bit wary of 'storytelling' with relation t= o music. A bit too PoMo for my liking.

Music can have structure and development - even reference and syntax..= But these are only analogous to the form of textual narrative. There's no = actual story going on. What I find fascinating about music is that it can e= voke an emotional response *without* any actual concrete emotional content.= IOW without any 'story'. Just soundwaves impinging on neurons.

Ian

 =3B

= --_d57e7804-4e4d-40d9-8c94-1d02db286145_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 09:36:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 203123BEDB; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:36:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mAwmml6f/TBBhHxDghZws6ix1vIW1hTnnXCmI/wZbg8=; b=JjQ43rGk1/YOFu3ZvuuaN+Sp7C9rxWsJPwt32MuavbLVVPpsuzZ6BzNINoyFj3caZ4 1BH5ryRrDIegelVYn32sfgMg2W0ukgLNQ1omXHouH0vFxZfSPgf43hPlVm5DegDpgLAo fU5h7bIbCIvkyaVBf/3ZnYXU7H8JkWy51JmP4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GEZ50vLwo932n9mCvg7RyltltCqrC0+yIAcABzrSBNrt1wHMohSqwbOEUiPnS5rwSU ggbyqMVYQabYSJ0iFgkfwJlE+DbTAppaPF/gCDNLGMi6OXDL9yIAlafDB1ZBc7N1mK7I V/aOFenq3jJdmG440aSY8WLJuxIdzv3wOPjus= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903021419y2fb5654fv2fae270ce32dd9f9@mail.gmail.com> References: <3F687665-9949-4F9A-925E-AC5AC562D898@gmail.com> <925338.6675.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903021419y2fb5654fv2fae270ce32dd9f9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Echoplex for sell. What's a fair price? From: Panagiotis Melidis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd51a3af3d3f0046433960f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:36:29 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd51a3af3d3f0046433960f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2009/3/3 mark francombe > but BRAND NEW EDP=B4s can be bought for 650 Euros and 70 euros for the > footpedals... thats NEW ONES, with Loop 4... > > goodmorning! may i ask where are those edp's and i cant seem to find them??any link woul= d work! thanks in advance! --=20 Panagiotis Melidis http://myspace.com/larrygus http://larrygus.blogspot.com --000e0cd51a3af3d3f0046433960f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2009/3/3 mark francombe &l= t;mark@markfrancombe.com><= /span>
but BRAND NEW EDP=B4s can be bought for 650 Euros and 70 euros for the foot= pedals... thats NEW ONES, with Loop 4...


goodm= orning!

may i ask where are those edp's and i cant seem to find = them??any link would work!


thanks in advance!=A0


--
Panag= iotis Melidis
http://myspace.com= /larrygus
http://larrygus.b= logspot.com

--000e0cd51a3af3d3f0046433960f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 09:50:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C96D63BED6; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7b2394f2-e818-4dac-b8da-09e1944a6bac_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: looper vs storyteller. if there even is Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:50:26 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903030026k59801965q48a2d1503d2e6aa5@mail.gmail.com> References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903030026k59801965q48a2d1503d2e6aa5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 09:50:27.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[7B0AA100:01C99BE5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 09:50:27 +0000 (UTC) --_7b2394f2-e818-4dac-b8da-09e1944a6bac_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per=2C > > And there where not that much storytelling in playing > > "Sweet home alabama" in a cover band :-) >=20 > In music with vocals the lyrics also weighs in to bring over "the > story"=2C hopefully the same story as the music is about. And a story > doesn't have to be long and evolving. It can as well be just about > delivering a sudden impact of a mode or attitude. >=20 =20 Yeah i agree in good rock and pop style music the 3 -4 minutes typical song= s often try to convey one or to emotions=2C a state of mind rather than a s= tory were lyrics=2C melody and instrumentation all have the same aim. =20 As for the "story" in improvised and composed music=2C both try to convey = something that the composer or improviser wants to convey. Again I'm not cr= azy about calling it story. I composed music one tries to combine elements = to reach a goal=2C get a feel of a voyage for example. The composer uses di= ffrent elements to achieve the goal ant typically writes it down i some way= to make repetitions possible=2C or records it to edit a complete compositi= on. Improvised music is a bit different but might achieve the same goal. In= improvisation you sort of follow the improvisers state of mind in real tim= e. If they start out in one mood they might be inspired to move in unforese= en directions during the improvisation. To follow such a journey is=2C for = me at least=2C very interesting. Both composed and improvised music are jud= ged by how well the music reaches the listener. I really like the idea of c= omposition as "synthesized improvisation". When you hear a composed piece o= f music (it can be Miles=2C Stones or Mozart) i follow and get the hear the= result of a long creative process that includes editing to get to a optima= l result. I a live improvisation you get to hear musicians edit them selves= in real time not that much of a difference really... But still i can't really feel comfortable with the "story" as a concept app= lied to music...=20 To get a different feel for improvisation vs composition look a Kandinsky..= during a period he's painting were either compositions or improvisations a= nd you can really see the different approaches behind it. =20 Take care=2C Anders www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl =20 --_7b2394f2-e818-4dac-b8da-09e1944a6bac_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per=2C

>=3B >=3B And there where not that much storytelling in p= laying
>=3B >=3B "Sweet home alabama" in a cover band :-)
>=3B =
>=3B In music with vocals the lyrics also weighs in to bring over "th= e
>=3B story"=2C hopefully the same story as the music is about. And a= story
>=3B doesn't have to be long and evolving. It can as well be ju= st about
>=3B delivering a sudden impact of a mode or attitude.
>= =3B
 =3B
Yeah i agree in good rock and pop style music the 3 -4 minutes typical song= s often try to convey one or to emotions=2C a state of mind rather than a s= tory were lyrics=2C melody and instrumentation all =3Bhave the same aim= .
 =3B
As for the "story" in improvised and composed music=2C  =3Bboth try to = convey something that the composer or improviser wants to convey. Again I'm= not crazy about calling it story. I composed music one tries to combine el= ements to reach a goal=2C get a feel of a voyage for example. The composer = uses diffrent elements to achieve the goal ant typically writes it down i s= ome way to make repetitions possible=2C or records it to edit a complete co= mposition. Improvised music is a bit different but might achieve the same g= oal. In improvisation you sort of follow the improvisers state of mind in r= eal time. If they start out in one mood they might be inspired to move in u= nforeseen directions during the improvisation. To follow such a journey is= =2C for me at least=2C very interesting. Both composed and improvised music= are judged by how well the music reaches the listener. I really like the i= dea of composition as "synthesized improvisation". When you hear a composed= piece of music (it can be Miles=2C Stones or Mozart) i follow and get the = hear the result of a long creative process that includes editing to get to = a optimal result. I a live improvisation you get to hear musicians edit the= m selves =3Bin real time not that much of a difference really...
But still i can't really feel comfortable with the "story" =3Bas a conc= ept applied to music... =3B
To get a different feel for improvisation vs composition look a Kandinsky..= during a period he's painting were either compositions or improvisations a= nd you can really see the different approaches behind it.
 =3B
Take care=2C

Anders
www.soundclick.com/And= ersBergdahl


 =3B
= --_7b2394f2-e818-4dac-b8da-09e1944a6bac_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 10:44:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 449EC3BED6; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9nC1K4E0IoxUW8E+WjQhQwCJY2v4gGjvSX7e2m5oG3o=; b=PJYXp8WdOWz5K7mPwC8BUwlgbvYJK/ynDj8PiJ907JfMWh2gPFYqmYIDx8OQOqv/7K xuy1e8fjwMKN9fEFcV+h4Gi7UNCVg2qqhM9YEanaJU0eSTim8zX9HMYolmrCrYFKGRbN 2MR5k7baOqbsyYAsOPFd7kiaFpFDaQO2KBYoI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DivAoJnNqUsd2W1S+7lqPVFYN3tjFkYyNDCSOijilJ89CGvR8AVf5zRnK0gvA4hcwg Dt7jEXiIbnKfsMkwudxK6HMgFycp3nuOBGJl1MdVzUVdVatNOiLGkDeerfjh2vw1Mvuw O60URVuga9BEMdk9gLWRTFOpkWoB+7oEsCLZA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:44:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0b4dd1aaf657a860 Message-ID: Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b351f370800464349db9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:44:19 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b351f370800464349db9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sjaak, Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a community like > this. > That's an opinion not supported by much evidence, I fear. And one with which I would strongly disagree. ;-) > I would prefer a forum website, that offers many more options for everyone. > I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and grow even more if we would move in > this direction. > Anyway, this issue has been discussed several times on this list with the general conclusion that most subscribers prefer the list just the way it is. I believe there is actually a looping web forum somewhere started by some LD members the last time we had this discussion, but I don't think it has a lot of traffic. I'm sure you're welcome to try to get it going again. ;-) Ian --001636c5b351f370800464349db9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sjaak,

Imo, using email is no longer the mos= t efficient method for a community like this.

That's an opinion not supported by muc= h evidence, I fear. And one with which I would strongly disagree. ;-)
=
=A0
I would prefer a forum website, th= at offers many more options for everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could ben= efit and grow even more if we would move in this direction.

Anyway, this issue has been discussed several times on = this list with the general conclusion that most subscribers prefer the list= just the way it is. I believe there is actually a looping web forum somewh= ere started by some LD members the last time we had this discussion, but I = don't think it has a lot of traffic. I'm sure you're welcome to= try to get it going again. ;-)

Ian

--001636c5b351f370800464349db9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 11:07:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A623D3BED6; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DE0mpOF4aFf0J4Z8m+bHQXPrHDDY78NvHUSlKjXD5IM=; b=NK3LzAfCWfXNqdisbSBzpm2lfebWUxdgiVsbzCFrwwg8f9RXLfienLuoAm5Yc5TRum A6hs0nwaGFsE2jEL4Gkxgbi5GkfHsiKM5r4zss8YfP2tyGgNmvDVD2YssbZHCJFqFf6P gJOUBXIehSpcsFyY3sckANtpgJ1ZsBnrOHY+M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d/jmUy8g+BBZSAfnpNET/bEB6/UxQRJG2f9P1288m12r7Xx8vYBDKBgmrm9FyMVxTU Ds82s12ngLKa65VByVriQBbzFM0rXoJPtosoHIsXHv4eczCK3+3BaTULuO530li0cwa8 PzcI9hdsL1EPKzYvVdZq+26xEm10SM/yB97nE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <49A9D67D.5090906@post.cybercity.dk> <518740.71044.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903010223gcdd2ba2n3b1ea47aa18de36@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903010227g641e5d7v6a2ab17e4b08ae34@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903021152i30390482l64716169efe608cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:07:28 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903030307l3311a2dr84ef7bc25b2ff8cf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Tuning guitar in fifths for wider orchestration options From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:07:28 +0000 (UTC) I like it because the piece evolves at a nice pace (a guy like me would call that "instrumental music storyteller skills" but you may call it whatever you want... maybe saying "It's got a nice flow to it!" ;-) Themes develop and comment on each other, surprises are thrown at you with power. This process relies not only on good playing technique (bends reach the micro tonal pitch that sounds good, vibrato or no vibrato applied with a personal expression, never the feeling of one-note-too-much) but also on the looping and the guitar sound through the amp/speaker. The guitar sound you use is not very common in livelooping muisc and I happen to love that sound. Bottom line: it's simply musical without copying someone else and performed with big ears. Per On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > TACKAR OCH BOCKAR, > > My=A0I ask why you like it, i hesitated posting it since it sounded sort = of > out..... One of the most intresting you heard, can't be that bad then > I really appreciate you're comments, and others comments, I'm here to lea= rn. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 11:19:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15AD93BED2; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 159836368/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.201.100/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.201.100 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AokBAPKgrElPTslk/2dsb2JhbAAI1wCEBgaGWA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,295,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="159836368" Message-ID: <49AD1437.4060102@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 11:27:51 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Ian Petersen wrote: > Sjaak, > > Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a > community like this. > > > That's an opinion not supported by much evidence, I fear. And one with > which I would strongly disagree. ;-) > > > I would prefer a forum website, that offers many more options for > everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and grow even more > if we would move in this direction. > > > Anyway, this issue has been discussed several times on this list with > the general conclusion that most subscribers prefer the list just the > way it is. ...and often not phrased in quite such a thoughtful way ;-) > I believe there is actually a looping web forum somewhere > started by some LD members the last time we had this discussion, but I > don't think it has a lot of traffic. I'm sure you're welcome to try to > get it going again. ;-) http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi c'mon over andy > > Ian > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 13:22:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C6453BECF; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:22:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=hqdqk6DkhLZ+CRBgG/1Z0D9gKhaBuk9DXLU+UbBbFFnXMyLvzjgLCSUcMpkLA5RQmiYu9cUv97I6Aww7rnhFuXXiNHnfQ+MXnwf/1jWkFI6MiZzVHx/VAN9Kf6mK199qZojft4HY8bE7JB/4W7qHI5rCI6niS/AKAT5goHf2Zs0=; X-YMail-OSG: NQQFSJ4VM1nfAWHLmIaJh6wgoKhPwXP0KtuM4pQENuPbPjIZeLRzDwkKa9nJgZDGF06ZTJXooH.B3Ijfkk74mY0TM_RLnIJw0EMT_OAhHr9zz7pv_omvGn9JudBq8q1scQifvErIA1LFIe0wmXy5myxLXSLBjg88Z9YlTs_mQMralHKxqJZGdi7yB9HIww-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:22:04 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: live guitar sampling? To: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <515344.18367.qm@web86507.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <295462.47687.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9ewq_C.A.IDG.97SrJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:22:05 +0000 (UTC) http://vimeo. com/user1307886/ videos From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 13:25:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6AE73BED2; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=pnXPMD42NifUnpAbw5vnSoS613z9117tC3Nc9ADBDuFUuSYdVBT6BTJyDqj0WpDV1AWbyRjX7R1zA/QxiTn6mU0WcCGhBpHBlBha9X/8fffXRvs8GVC7NcYk3CVJo6WzOQcBRpu7NgkP72uKKHE5xQGlhluXzyGadIlX461XXrU=; X-YMail-OSG: WUCVhPMVM1ltlTp3qt9bDSE4hVEZCzeLQP0n.VpL3c7UySRC0A8RbN3fexrG52zqOCy2EwkvE7x8JSxXXo05lbwOKnwDFdrP4WRM.uWhMxkxezjBGs5Er58E4SkeVRN9hVJof6LyxvOVcFXabIFgHkbIKvMUJ8VV9CjrRp6JP3IBANqOM18Xtv0tluV51Dhts66RByg- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 05:25:40 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: live guitar sampling? 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--0-98048599-1236086740=:68663-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 15:06:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B40733BEC7; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236092800; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ohZOLOqXq8jzcD6AxFYUWpd8zAU=; b=myFTOaVtx0QhJipK6oYgDvf1KeD/Cxh9aIuOy00HU1CV+6sMiBHwtwkkkadI60rJ cceFq6dB55dJeOZ7pYZnCY6r9vArFlWlBwog9i+Zb91IyyvmyRx37H7MYnaQtZ6h; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=b_ecN8mhkUAA:10 a=eM93ndv4AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=u3QhKvfEzBpf1bOXB-MA:9 a=HW0G3FRFoR97YB9h2dsA:7 a=cYFuPcOOz7vl8ucvoo1V319Ok1gA:4 a=D3L0AG4XjkMA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gUZ8v45Rj5_xYcuAf3AA:9 a=HIBDJkSmy__ELWsbYCgA:7 a=t7Qw2P8O8mApDroSrScSZjCFWF4A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002501c99c11$a90453e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:06:41 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C99BE7.BFBBDB00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:06:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C99BE7.BFBBDB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi shhh....still going... jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Ian Petersen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list Sjaak, Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a = community like this. That's an opinion not supported by much evidence, I fear. And one with = which I would strongly disagree. ;-) I would prefer a forum website, that offers many more options for = everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and grow even more if we = would move in this direction. Anyway, this issue has been discussed several times on this list with = the general conclusion that most subscribers prefer the list just the = way it is. I believe there is actually a looping web forum somewhere = started by some LD members the last time we had this discussion, but I = don't think it has a lot of traffic. I'm sure you're welcome to try to = get it going again. ;-) Ian ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C99BE7.BFBBDB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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shhh....still going...
 
 
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Ian Petersen =
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 = 5:44=20 AM
Subject: Re: please be = courteous to the=20 list

Sjaak,

Imo, using email is no longer = the most=20 efficient method for a community like this.

That's an opinion not supported by much evidence, I fear. And one = with=20 which I would strongly disagree. ;-)
 
I would prefer a forum = website, that=20 offers many more options for everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could = benefit=20 and grow even more if we would move in this = direction.

Anyway, this issue has been discussed several times on this list = with the=20 general conclusion that most subscribers prefer the list just the way = it is. I=20 believe there is actually a looping web forum somewhere started by = some LD=20 members the last time we had this discussion, but I don't think it has = a lot=20 of traffic. I'm sure you're welcome to try to get it going again. = ;-)

Ian

------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C99BE7.BFBBDB00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 15:17:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 168DC3BECF; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wk7sE44eh/OV9lx/kYkKKhAqfjSptzqwF8byb6ACfoU=; b=vq9MKdPGzwi2gRtaCTbYOVypmPdqxqpBS5oMHCveN0zbApiATGDuxpyYwqdFKnEDsq J9CJpYk/Tegxt0a68HBBMzAVZlBqWOI5N3a3G08Big/E5Pn2OEqcDJRthA7widTIb9RY +ECkfbLOQuv3gxZrCdWbLZQmZpxcpT0Spxft0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=n7mApy7REemxreUxj3nhjZgyTQTuziLr0LEuE3yQGSeJqxWIYtucIhDSv69VbYlokL DfYebbWa8Q+paMms4l5CtLzrkurJhH/6oDhVEElSN7y9kmkXEirwA1WrfTRX1B2EfC+c +3jHSXlDjaxyxs+VDWwRw6igOwhxIzbPNrVlw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0705130759w4c354f39y3893149d36984812@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0705130759w4c354f39y3893149d36984812@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 07:17:57 -0800 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903030717k47d04421pd6fc6238be91ffb4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Free tabla VST available for download From: Art Simon To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Here's an update to a brief discussion on tablas from a long time ago. I just came across this free Indian VSTi which includes tablas. I thought it sounded pretty good: http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/07/15/dsk-indian-dreamz/ It's a lot easier than creating a tabla patch in Loopazoid, though this page at ancient-future.com does a good job describing how to do it: http://www.ancient-future.com/hindumap.html On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 6:59 AM, Art Simon wrote: > A list member contacted me for a Tabla VST patch I'd posted about a > while ago. If anyone else is interested I uploaded the files to > http://www.box.net/shared/zilbld9oog > You'll have to register to download them, but at around 5Mb it's too > big to attach to an email. I've uploaded the soundfiles and the > loopazoid patch SwarTablas.lpz that uses them. Download them all to > the same folder (probably your VST folder) and you should be fine. > There's also a copy of the loopazoid.dll if you need it. > > All the sounds and the loopazoid drum VST are freely available from > many sites on the web. I've just organized it into a patch that's > written so the left and right hand strokes are "mute groups", and cut > off any previous strokes from that hand. > > -- > Art Simon > simart@null.net > http://art.simon.tripod.com > http://www.myspace.com/artsimon > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From onlinePOSTE.IT@POSTE.IT Tue Mar 3 15:35:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1605 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:35:22 UTC Received: from mail.myedl.com (mail.myedl.com [208.42.228.142]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 052713BEC5; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (mail.chemtechsupply.com [70.103.236.50]) by mail.myedl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3258428901; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:08:33 -0700 (MST) From: "online POSTE IT" Subject: Caro cliente di POSTE ITALIENE Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 08:23:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090303150833.3258428901@mail.myedl.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 15:43:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 489523BED2; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ItX+fE+28m2OZ4lSJi/3E7LKfu72RpKzyk+wVzDPhnLw0FTkCSQ+5fOtuK1omrk8; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002501c99c11$a90453e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <002501c99c11$a90453e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:43:01 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-976027513==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec792b60c86600c673421c6c86108e478e16350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:43:40 +0000 (UTC) --============_-976027513==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Apparently my messages on this mailing list are not appearing... I'll take it over to the web forum!!! > >http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi > >shhh....still going... > > >jeff > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ian Petersen >To: >Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:44 AM >Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list > >Sjaak, > > >Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a >community like this. > > >That's an opinion not supported by much evidence, I fear. And one >with which I would strongly disagree. ;-) > > >I would prefer a forum website, that offers many more options for >everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and grow even more >if we would move in this direction. > > >Anyway, this issue has been discussed several times on this list >with the general conclusion that most subscribers prefer the list >just the way it is. I believe there is actually a looping web forum >somewhere started by some LD members the last time we had this >discussion, but I don't think it has a lot of traffic. I'm sure >you're welcome to try to get it going again. ;-) > >Ian -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-976027513==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: please be courteous to the list
Apparently my messages on this mailing list are not appearing...  I'll take it over to the web forum!!!

 
http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi
 
shhh....still going...
 
 
jeff
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Petersen
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list

Sjaak,

Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a community like this.

That's an opinion not supported by much evidence, I fear. And one with which I would strongly disagree. ;-)
 
I would prefer a forum website, that offers many more options for everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and grow even more if we would move in this direction.

Anyway, this issue has been discussed several times on this list with the general conclusion that most subscribers prefer the list just the way it is. I believe there is actually a looping web forum somewhere started by some LD members the last time we had this discussion, but I don't think it has a lot of traffic. I'm sure you're welcome to try to get it going again. ;-)

Ian


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--============_-976027513==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 15:54:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C9D3BECD; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=JL16lVw1F1i1dYARg2tPUuit5QZwNyYAInlShRVuSgU=; b=tSpLIg9lSR9J7UU0qSgivBd4TNSvLSnPNpQDHkyDD3NccN3nXh6gLpJA6fPdavZUyE gBhqL67D/BX4mvHeLvCQ3/JaGTkfdkv+Phagq6MaRLtJZHvil+kILVCm77n+LtVEaC0T sGHzWU+qIl2hmX58lE1vTWefzxn4OkjIOrROE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fNJFUrj/9MN/W7lT2LRUaivXbnK5Bvj9Nz805Jf2joeU05Amjqypkz6OFXn+DNBrh+ paCgcIJc+GK00B07Ztvxm9x+reg1XRiukUIMm8e/98wA67HXAsiGAa+9BGGivk6P3jlg TFAWXg7SYbTo0LOoPytUZkkV7HIe4YzQvYHNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <002501c99c11$a90453e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:54:43 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 18fd5f6b3df133a1 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903030754o18a9470br7b5b1dbfdf6fb5a6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de03731992bf046438f414 Resent-Message-ID: <8y3SIC.A.teE.ELVrJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 15:54:44 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de03731992bf046438f414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Apparently my messages on this mailing list are not appearing... I'll > take it over to the web forum!!! > > > > they just did!!! Mark --0016e6de03731992bf046438f414 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Charles = Zwicky <cazw= icky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Apparently my messages on this mailing list are not appearing...=A0 I'll take it over to the web forum!!!

=A0
they jus= t did!!!


Mark
--0016e6de03731992bf046438f414-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 16:05:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E20163BECF; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49AD552B.1070100@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 10:04:59 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Without getting too esoteric, I hear all music as having a story. Instrumental music is a more loosely defined story than music with words, and it's much more subjective, but it's there. It's why I've always found it easy to name instrumental pieces; I just listen for a bit and I hear the story develop, which is often both visual and emotional, then it's just a matter of choosing the best title to describe it, same as if I had written a novel. In music there are conflicts, resolutions, climaxes, denouements, even characters and plot development to my mind. I've found this to be true even when listening to someone improvise a solo, if they know what they're doing. Pat Metheny, Bill Evans and Keith Jarrett come to mind as some players who are especially descriptive storytellers in improvisation. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of > music tells a STORY!! It can't really, can it? Can there be meaning in > an improvisation?? Is there meaning in a composition? What is the > meaning with "green onions" or Bethovens 5th or Kind of blue. A story > needs meaning, doesn't it?? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 16:21:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14A4A3BECF; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=tEfrHq09C4KJH+yCTrEqIr3yhbGTyVrnL8Kty19ZnvKNdo8HEK+GBf4lOBtk8Iia; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903030754o18a9470br7b5b1dbfdf6fb5a6@mail.gmail.com> References: <002501c99c11$a90453e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9ab0c76f0903030754o18a9470br7b5b1dbfdf6fb5a6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:19:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-976025265==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79357e4d6bef350a1e943225d4b2f64a43350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:21:08 +0000 (UTC) --============_-976025265==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Yay! <:-| >On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Charles Zwicky ><cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Apparently my messages on this mailing list are not appearing... >I'll take it over to the web forum!!! > >> >> >they just did!!! > > >Mark -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-976025265==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: please be courteous to the list
Yay!  <:-|

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Apparently my messages on this mailing list are not appearing...  I'll take it over to the web forum!!!

 
they just did!!!


Mark


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--============_-976025265==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 19:13:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 669E03BEC7; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ecb61bf9-297e-4283-b9c7-84e021b99377_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: Music a story or something else - WAS looper vs storyteller. if there even is Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:13:40 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49AD552B.1070100@mhorse.com> References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> <49AD552B.1070100@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 19:13:40.0552 (UTC) FILETIME=[29840480:01C99C34] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:13:41 +0000 (UTC) --_ecb61bf9-297e-4283-b9c7-84e021b99377_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I basically agree=2C but the very basic difference is that music speaks to = emotions directly bypassing our language. II think we might do music a diss= ervice by saying that we create stories we need to understand that music ca= n be wordless. I'm not sure but I think that Evans=2C Jarret et al does not= think stories. I only REALLY know how i improvise and i seldom try say som= ething=2C i might start out with a mood or sound that want to explore and t= hen i start playing and try to react to what i hear and it quite often end = up being rather different than i thought it would. I recently saw Mike Land= au and he really painted with guitar=2C much closer to visual than narrativ= e art. I cant really ever say that instrumental music ever made me think of= a narrative or story=2C pictures developing and changing=2C like a film. M= aybe the music=2C film=2C pictures could be seen as a sort of "story" and I= 'm tempted to say that some music is a journey from one place to another=2C= one picture after another and yeas i can give the jorney a name and perhap= s invent a narrative or story around it.=20 I like to think of instrumental music as abstract art=2C it is what it is= =2C it's not a picture OF something. A bit like Kandinsky's compositions t= he are not a picture OF something they are just the puicture =20 =20 Cheers=2C =20 Anders www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl =20 > Date: Tue=2C 3 Mar 2009 10:04:59 -0600 > From: highhorse@mhorse.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is >=20 > Without getting too esoteric=2C I hear all music as having a story.=20 > Instrumental music is a more loosely defined story than music with=20 > words=2C and it's much more subjective=2C but it's there. It's why I've=20 > always found it easy to name instrumental pieces=3B I just listen for a=20 > bit and I hear the story develop=2C which is often both visual and=20 > emotional=2C then it's just a matter of choosing the best title to=20 > describe it=2C same as if I had written a novel. >=20 > In music there are conflicts=2C resolutions=2C climaxes=2C denouements=2C= even=20 > characters and plot development to my mind. I've found this to be true=20 > even when listening to someone improvise a solo=2C if they know what=20 > they're doing. Pat Metheny=2C Bill Evans and Keith Jarrett come to mind a= s=20 > some players who are especially descriptive storytellers in improvisation= . >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 >=20 --_ecb61bf9-297e-4283-b9c7-84e021b99377_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I basically agree=2C but the very basic difference is that music speaks to = emotions directly bypassing our language. II think we =3Bmight do music= a disservice by saying that we create stories we need to understand that m= usic can be wordless. I'm not sure but I think =3Bthat Evans=2C Jarret = et al does not think =3Bstories. I only REALLY know =3Bhow i improv= ise and i seldom try say something=2C i might start out with a mood or soun= d that want to explore and then i start playing and try to react to what i = hear and it quite often end up =3Bbeing rather different than i thought= it would. I recently saw Mike Landau and he really painted with guitar=2C = much closer to visual than narrative art. I cant really ever say that instr= umental =3Bmusic ever made me think =3Bof a narrative or story=2C p= ictures developing and changing=2C like a film. Maybe the music=2C film=2C = pictures could be seen as =3Ba sort of "story" and =3BI'm tempted t= o =3Bsay that some music is a journey =3Bfrom one place to another= =2C one picture after another and yeas i can give the jorney a name and per= haps invent a narrative or story around it.
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= --_ecb61bf9-297e-4283-b9c7-84e021b99377_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 19:36:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 851C23BEC5; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:36:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YpDBcMA3OodkI9eMlUbOMTX0NAxFvLzM0p0G9Lt86Dk=; b=xfxBFZyBTaUAqsdg8TACT8kkPxvGDv9lnKGdFXfR2b6/fzcv6MaqZUvrvX0SfhVHeb E7csUbUZGVQV6JzL+FiHTBWgZStBDnrORqXzpwj0iuIB/+w2fAZ3H0QRV1g4qoAw5UKg cGtjC2PfLZE9ZEGtbOxz4PwBZ/P76FXAHF0CI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Rdj8sY6F+egrZnN9DecyhR8Hlfu4P78hjwkt9AV8DJkJLk/PHvU1zeR9GJVz+9sqYX yM285SuqPLesfjS+AsKcdklRzXiJzi61wPg+9Jy28R3GkxPMts9i5VQDisyoEJBRF/eQ Jop8mkv16d/RGfMNQpejr4dA5/0niGhIOY5kQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> <49AD552B.1070100@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:36:36 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903031136j6c188532o5418a9f10f627bea@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Music a story or something else - WAS looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:36:37 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > I basically agree, but the very basic difference is that music speaks to > emotions directly bypassing our language. II think we=A0might do music a > disservice by saying that we create stories we need to understand that mu= sic > can be wordless. I'm not sure but I think=A0that Evans, Jarret et al does= not > think=A0stories. I only REALLY know=A0how i improvise and i seldom try sa= y > something, i might start out with a mood or sound that want to explore an= d > then i start playing and try to react to what i hear and it quite often e= nd > up=A0being rather different than i thought it would. I recently saw Mike > Landau and he really painted with guitar, much closer to visual than > narrative art. I cant really ever say that instrumental=A0music ever made= me > think=A0of a narrative or story, pictures developing and changing, like a > film. Maybe the music, film, pictures could be seen as=A0a sort of "story= " > and=A0I'm tempted to=A0say that some music is a journey=A0from one place = to > another, one picture after another and yeas i can give the jorney a name = and > perhaps invent a narrative or story around it. > I like to think of instrumental music as abstract art, it is what it is, > it's not a picture OF something.=A0A bit like Kandinsky's compositions = =A0the > are not a picture OF something they are just the puicture Totally get your point. Of course music is what it is - vibrations. But when heard, the listener experiences a sort of story. Now, "story" is just a word. It means that there is something happening over time in the music and that the music reacts to itself as it evolves. Also, we are different as social beings. When talking with someone I tend to listen more to what the person means than to what the person says. I think I understand others better that way. I go for body language, attitude and other soft factor expressions rather than the plain narrative output. Gotta run now - will dig in an AC/DC like live band tonight. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 19:58:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68B0E3BEC3; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rick Walker" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 11:54:21 -0800 Message-Id: <20090303194713.M43727@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.51 20050317 X-OriginatingIP: 74.220.69.228 (looppool) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 19:58:32 +0000 (UTC) I just uploaded two pieces from my Luggage Store Experimental Music Series performance last Thursday night to a new youtube channel that I created for my live performance work: If you are interested, I posted "Music for Toy Music Box and Distortion" and "Music for Tuning Forks, Conch Shell and Purple Trumpet" at: www.youtube.com/rickwalkerlivelooper Also, I have a collection of lo fidelity toy video 'animations' of my abstract electronic compositions up at: www.youtube.com/looppool and some live videos from last summer's European/UK looping tour at: www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic Though I'll probably move most of those videos over to my new channel later this week. In other news: Erdem Helvacioglu is visiting us for a week, making a record with Bill (which I may contribute some percussion to). It's so great to have he and his lovely wife here. -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 20:14:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4AD3BEC3; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d3605152-0891-40e5-9f8d-7f125fffe7e6_" X-Originating-IP: [68.127.175.42] From: samba - To: Subject: Stories Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 12:14:52 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090303191341.E7F503BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090303191341.E7F503BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 20:14:52.0081 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5EAE210:01C99C3C] Resent-Message-ID: <4XaMJD.A.ZsF.9-YrJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:14:53 +0000 (UTC) --_d3605152-0891-40e5-9f8d-7f125fffe7e6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "A story > needs meaning=2C doesn't it?" I would say a major component of meaning is emotion=2C (others include t= ime=2Cmemory/experience=2C imagination family/social dynamics=2Creason etc)= and certainly music can express emotional energy. Very simply=2C improvs th= at have beginning/middle /end sequential quality are similar enough to stor= ies that they easily become screens for personal emotions to be projected o= nto. If the player(s) are expressing emotional energy it can be easy for ot= her's to relate it their own emotional energy . Perhaps this has somethin= g to do with mirror neurons. Seems to me humans have some mysterious(fear o= f empty space/ambiguity?) need to understand the world and their experience= s=2Cand therefor come up with stories=2Cmythologies=2C models (scientific = =2Cphilosophic etc.)=2C art=2C cosmologies=2C=2C etc. --_d3605152-0891-40e5-9f8d-7f125fffe7e6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B =3B =3B "A story >=3B needs meaning=2C doesn't = it?"
 =3B =3B I would say a major component of meaning is emotio= n=2C (others include time=2Cmemory/experience=2C imagination family/social = dynamics=2Creason etc)and certainly music can express emotional energy. Ver= y simply=2C improvs that have beginning/middle /end sequential quality are = similar enough to stories that they easily become screens for personal emot= ions to be projected onto. If the player(s) are expressing emotional energy= it can be easy for other's to relate =3B it their own emotional energy=  =3B . Perhaps this has something to do with mirror neurons. Seems to m= e humans have some mysterious(fear of empty space/ambiguity?) need to under= stand the world and their experiences=2Cand therefor come up with stories= =2Cmythologies=2C models (scientific =2Cphilosophic etc.)=2C art=2C cosmolo= gies=2C=2C etc.
= --_d3605152-0891-40e5-9f8d-7f125fffe7e6_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 20:54:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85DAA3BEC4; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:54:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=RUOMe5tvXRpgwylynmJhwtDg+XQ77G/Di7m39sKYJqU=; b=A5nBfH8e4x6D6oO9ZwNJLjx+KWWDVXb4eeD0FXYSobtV1OxA6EjgVmFnAukw+LRLdl vilSUol95smOh2i7NMdmRNnUr8+mUZYEUqis+VHdgmA2W+YpnK66A9f79s2BnAUkJxjb K3McuyanAduG5m9vZ9ZHPh5zLKZF7HpfT/d4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vxARr0Up8KNBGPMBOFbT0CCP9RRKxpZZVLPtVTWw2z20iWOuR2JbfEJpgsShcyXIi8 UJ/38UasZ1cTrAJm2kBCpQTt+sbuQyGXxA00SLisIrSrsiVWfMtYOSS0C8oaSM7xoPjd spBTxZU8fSpUhQ28oBRBiqQAwbGbkOAHtT/8E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0903030717k47d04421pd6fc6238be91ffb4@mail.gmail.com> References: <588ce11d0705130759w4c354f39y3893149d36984812@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903030717k47d04421pd6fc6238be91ffb4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:54:21 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Free tabla VST available for download From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:54:23 +0000 (UTC) dsk plugs are awesome and free ... incredible ... quality sounds on all of them. 2009/3/3 Art Simon : > Here's an update to a brief discussion on tablas from a long time ago. > I just came across this free Indian VSTi which includes tablas. I > thought it sounded pretty good: > http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2008/07/15/dsk-indian-dreamz/ > > It's a lot easier than creating a tabla patch in Loopazoid, though > this page at ancient-future.com does a good job describing how to do > it: > http://www.ancient-future.com/hindumap.html > > On Sun, May 13, 2007 at 6:59 AM, Art Simon wrote: >> A list member contacted me for a Tabla VST patch I'd posted about a >> while ago. If anyone else is interested I uploaded the files to >> http://www.box.net/shared/zilbld9oog >> You'll have to register to download them, but at around 5Mb it's too >> big to attach to an email. I've uploaded the soundfiles and the >> loopazoid patch SwarTablas.lpz that uses them. Download them all to >> the same folder (probably your VST folder) and you should be fine. >> There's also a copy of the loopazoid.dll if you need it. >> >> All the sounds and the loopazoid drum VST are freely available from >> many sites on the web. I've just organized it into a patch that's >> written so the left and right hand strokes are "mute groups", and cut >> off any previous strokes from that hand. >> >> -- >> Art Simon >> simart@null.net >> http://art.simon.tripod.com >> http://www.myspace.com/artsimon >> > > > > -- > Art Simon > simart@gmail.com > myspace [dot] com/artsimon > > -- Raul Bonell at blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 21:09:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 258323BEC7; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pMJq4YH42rw4hhGPPFoP09zRpqMtmuTSAcVn2apCB4M=; b=hqeUIcdgtN7q6HKZWiHcAIrdra99PXw1wNUvI6bElkrzoXBLTI4OjsbwNhcS5AesFf lNei2XCeG6GiP6gMKJyGeDCv6qsmlr1zusvApXEDbIi5TY6tXkE2yLUUIrgfEoqqIxhB XuP8u/AzT2iWQv3zuAuTScDUXvrESuJ3FRQMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LvcuZz2NpIXeNcIIuCzuVq8nIf49299MWkxoKtTmIP5rbGr4+qOOr/aL0wXG0xz8yz g7SoOUMEk2lyO7NT2KqxkP9IZ9IoV4f66FdN/JJVZ50IvsFpySwF52DcPk0DH0N5F79O UKFXFuktbcR8vOqiCfAM22RQsFd8S8JwY2HO4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> <49AD552B.1070100@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:09:35 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903031309w581a396uf6ea3c8fa903e9da@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Music a story or something else - WAS looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e910ef340b3c04643d5a15 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:09:37 +0000 (UTC) --001636e910ef340b3c04643d5a15 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anders, when improvising, do you never say "this is the setting, the tone, I am speaking of this emotion, or from this story that happened to me, or that I read of" in your mind, and try to translate that musically? I suppose that would be, to me, a more abstract way of still semi concretely storytelling with forethought. -nn happyhumans.org On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > I basically agree, but the very basic difference is that music speaks to > emotions directly bypassing our language. II think we might do music a > disservice by saying that we create stories we need to understand that music > can be wordless. I'm not sure but I think that Evans, Jarret et al does not > think stories. I only REALLY know how i improvise and i seldom try say > something, i might start out with a mood or sound that want to explore and > then i start playing and try to react to what i hear and it quite often end > up being rather different than i thought it would. I recently saw Mike > Landau and he really painted with guitar, much closer to visual than > narrative art. I cant really ever say that instrumental music ever made me > think of a narrative or story, pictures developing and changing, like a > film. Maybe the music, film, pictures could be seen as a sort of "story" > and I'm tempted to say that some music is a journey from one place to > another, one picture after another and yeas i can give the jorney a name and > perhaps invent a narrative or story around it. > I like to think of instrumental music as abstract art, it is what it is, > it's not a picture OF something. A bit like Kandinsky's compositions the > are not a picture OF something they are just the puicture > > --001636e910ef340b3c04643d5a15 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anders, when improvising, do you never say "this is the setting, the t= one, I am speaking of this emotion, or from this story that happened to me,= or that I read of" in your mind, and try to translate that musically?= =A0 I suppose that would be, to me, a more abstract way of still semi concr= etely storytelling with forethought.

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Anders Bergdahl <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ander= s_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
I basically agree, but the very basic difference is that music speaks to em= otions directly bypassing our language. II think we=A0might do music a diss= ervice by saying that we create stories we need to understand that music ca= n be wordless. I'm not sure but I think=A0that Evans, Jarret et al does= not think=A0stories. I only REALLY know=A0how i improvise and i seldom try= say something, i might start out with a mood or sound that want to explore= and then i start playing and try to react to what i hear and it quite ofte= n end up=A0being rather different than i thought it would. I recently saw M= ike Landau and he really painted with guitar, much closer to visual than na= rrative art. I cant really ever say that instrumental=A0music ever made me = think=A0of a narrative or story, pictures developing and changing, like a f= ilm. Maybe the music, film, pictures could be seen as=A0a sort of "sto= ry" and=A0I'm tempted to=A0say that some music is a journey=A0from= one place to another, one picture after another and yeas i can give the jo= rney a name and perhaps invent a narrative or story around it.
I like to think of instrumental music as abstract art, it is what it is, it= 's not a picture OF something.=A0A bit like Kandinsky's composition= s =A0the are not a picture OF something they are just the puicture
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--001636e910ef340b3c04643d5a15-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 21:10:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 895173BEC4; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l8skeDnrB9TLKEihIgSAoY4C5VKJ14x3i/ysIL7wlB8=; b=QA902igBZpIbJkaryYKJipOOh/bX9lJXQloAaYVjMRT1vXuZPLHCcGh29BR/Uv0EVo u7hT97zqRfepIkQK0F0GRIw8l6FW0rIXkN+qT4P/7XZPXnjLoNR4YfYKYY4N3ndVxoRj PktnM+FUTOsBR1EesEHXM4mcv+hpfoz27VE8A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ohP+99pum+9N3ft0a42p1WD3OqUmBMbhfHKc2c83QigjZ53yIFucTtjjKgWWjb3G7i JRDanzXYtmTYptFbGOJ7cBSDUK1+Wc+Ruq+zuhxq7gMkk7Q/fTB/g4qgzEwWBBbTcWzD nTeZfVMK56lh57fiLrWPnyiNFk/aOFij5JSew= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903031136j6c188532o5418a9f10f627bea@mail.gmail.com> References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> <49AD552B.1070100@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0903031136j6c188532o5418a9f10f627bea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:10:51 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903031310y1452106nc0aff2aa4cda8cf4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Music a story or something else - WAS looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2301abe0a0804643d5ebd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:10:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2301abe0a0804643d5ebd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > When talking with someone I > tend to listen more to what the person means than to what the person > says. I think I understand others better that way. I go for body > language, attitude and other soft factor expressions rather than the > plain narrative output. Per, exactly. It boggles my mind how much people focus on the literal words, as if what is meant is only representative of the words used, vs the other way round. -nn happyhumans.org --000e0cd2301abe0a0804643d5ebd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When talking with someone I
tend to listen more to what the person means than to what the person
says. I think I understand others better that way. I go for body
language, attitude and other soft factor expressions rather than the
plain narrative output.

Per, exactly.=A0 It boggles my= mind how much people focus on the literal words, as if what is meant is on= ly representative of the words used, vs the other way round.

-nn
happyhumans.org

--000e0cd2301abe0a0804643d5ebd-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 21:25:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D1883BEC9; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49ADA03A.5060609@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:25:14 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube References: <20090303194713.M43727@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <20090303194713.M43727@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:25:18 +0000 (UTC) Totally delightful, Rick!! wisht I coulda been there. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I just uploaded two pieces from my Luggage Store Experimental Music > Series performance last Thursday night to a > new youtube channel that I created for my live performance work: > > If you are interested, I posted > "Music for Toy Music Box and Distortion" > and > "Music for Tuning Forks, Conch Shell and Purple Trumpet" > at: > > www.youtube.com/rickwalkerlivelooper From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 21:48:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 233713BECC; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:48:21 EST Subject: Re: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c1e.2d2262ea.36deffa5_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:48:34 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c1e.2d2262ea.36deffa5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/3/09 2:58:43 PM, looppool@cruzio.com writes: > www.youtube.com/rickwalkerlivelooper > SWEET!!!!!.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) --part1_c1e.2d2262ea.36deffa5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 3/3/09 2:58:43 PM, looppool@cruzio.com writes:


www.youtube.com/rickw= alkerlivelooper


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(http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job= -industries?ncid=3Demlcntuscare00000002) --part1_c1e.2d2262ea.36deffa5_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 21:51:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBFFC3BECF; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=fVg0JN59atUJ+Rm/Z6UcgyydPW3/1fXtIkYHFAN8TRzGxkomtMyNZQZch+CxfNaLi0EDwqHvM2Cf5xgmSRYjAM0OleRdloV6rYv92OR3AfyO9C24nU7LiiG8uLvbDxJmNMUN0Yw9kvIch45Wa81IGROSCBNcrw7MylQCo5pVZiY=; X-YMail-OSG: zor.CX8VM1k2ZwUShYyc8bffTdMtRVkOZdEqEMjZFPsasghrmIDZBSxck0qh8U8b9UIxwwPs7VXGX7_8N0ZS2V.0FJ9F8hot6TfFFW4gJQrD2_e_vnc94vI31Ttqb_cWeUpJZCJu6FoZVqcKkj7QSbj1ZcsQqgyRc1FG2MQJ_bW.7ILa639BATVZkSFM X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:51:18 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090303194713.M43727@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <82589.54240.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Rock on baby! looks like you are back to minimal DL4 looping? No LP1? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 11:54 AM > I just uploaded two pieces from my Luggage Store > Experimental Music > Series performance last Thursday night to a > new youtube channel that I created for my live performance > work: > > If you are interested, I posted > "Music for Toy Music Box and Distortion" > and > "Music for Tuning Forks, Conch Shell and Purple > Trumpet" > at: > > www.youtube.com/rickwalkerlivelooper > > Also, I have a collection of lo fidelity toy video > 'animations' of > my abstract electronic compositions up at: > > www.youtube.com/looppool > > and some live videos from last summer's European/UK > looping tour at: > > www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic > > Though I'll probably move most of those videos over to > my > new channel later this week. > > In other news: Erdem Helvacioglu is visiting us for a > week, making a > record with Bill (which I may contribute some percussion > to). It's so > great to have he and his lovely wife here. > -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 22:02:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE3A43BED2; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:02:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=T0cqFsXU6v7nUYFwNuBi2WCMERwGAwNmNEg8jXlui7E=; b=vf5CkFzCRvqyZRl0o5YGM3bbfttsV2Rrv32htNHvITAlNWuu1pdXWefuwuM/3xr7xY 0nmMl5x3TteWKhVX/TYm8POa7NQB3DXRwYA87+9oXz3qS52wxFWcrpWr+Xw/Lxr3SijI SzMGy73s3ItxD8DLD36OwWwd4kwlOGOHHEEY4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Gvzbozgn1Heb2b59n9UMKFfyonnSe9JWZEwYoGyRlhd0zR0d5Teowl1gQrfpYM3Qkm OosYxI/eIm92h7okJ1AQBagxqJ1bNDmhOwZYLw0La3yzQ35TEpAMZDIlVBQOqmhS6hV9 pMURKVTjMApGlRVQg4wNe+QCHFF1uY4FRw6Nw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000801c99af0$f48f2460$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <9e0440a60903010804uc864d74h7a5e4b3a25f534f2@mail.gmail.com> <001101c99a8b$18871f50$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <9e0440a60903010852s53319f01w722872fd69a8dd2b@mail.gmail.com> <000a01c99a91$bdd247e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <49AAC726.8000701@mhorse.com> <000801c99af0$f48f2460$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:02:07 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903031402k669a078ei84519445e5b7b32@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:02:08 +0000 (UTC) By the way as I got caught up in trying to remedy Dropbox, I did want to thank evryone who reviewed my RPM collection and took the time to wade through the initial tech, doing. All appreciated. Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 22:56:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62EFC3BEC3; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:56:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oxAIHQGvK2KataKsewKSpnDwCtuEhNJrdtmcmTrb9AQ=; b=BPR4jbbM/SyyApsGmMGhulxOW8oObv3KrDieFYwk42cMCoDPf8VPs2htggzcLwOBVQ frVahM663V7/iRSxVctoWUO1MM4nJDvVSqJdqh5y6fvP3/6V/caGNd2yvC94B96iyfmD 7mfJkoCtaJcZquQnMTDalRN2zqnSrEnaD/Hn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HGxaDuc1E9RYxN6VpluLyD1R2AeIdXF5y8UlhMjbHLbXpywymGUPZCHt0NiudPoLmG 9i+w50i9hn5xQewrh8vf88RJSO6OWGFlZrw7OcDs0OxDNBi5A3RkrjOcgpcqmkILR36x ufuyphKQqfZQcjflZjO0kfZKQ6D/ViAsuEH0s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090303191341.E7F503BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:56:29 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903031456k777e5cedsb5f6132f000c1b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stories From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:56:30 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:14 PM, samba - wrote: > Seems to me humans have some mysterious(fear of empty space/ambiguity?) need > to understand the world and their experiences,and therefor come up with > stories,mythologies, models (scientific ,philosophic etc.), art, > cosmologies,, etc. Yes, that's the typical human way - always telling others about yourself and your latest experiences. A chimpanzee can learn as many words as a three year old child but there is a huge difference: when you meet a child it will never stop telling you stories about whatever have happened lately. The chimpanzee never tell you a shit, whatever it has been through. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 23:19:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65BA63BEC5; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_897f6d51-396e-477d-aa01-446c1e13b094_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Stories Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:19:23 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903031456k777e5cedsb5f6132f000c1b2@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090303191341.E7F503BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <66f9cc1e0903031456k777e5cedsb5f6132f000c1b2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2009 23:19:23.0493 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CFE4950:01C99C56] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:19:24 +0000 (UTC) --_897f6d51-396e-477d-aa01-446c1e13b094_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And that's the difference between music and stories=2C a musical piece (or = a painting )can be just beautiful=2C it doesn't NEED a story. It can be ju= st what it is=2C without name=2C myth or model.=20 Every listener can=2C id the want to attach a story to it=2C but the piece = is not a story. It doesn't need a meaning or contain a message=2C it just I= S. My objection is that by calling musical pieces stories we reduce the conten= t of the music. I think that music is more basic than words=2C a story can = describe a piece of music it can't BE the music. Turning a story into music= is the other way around=2C we go behind the words and try to capture the f= eelings the words describe. Along with Wittgenstein i believe that we are t= rapped in language=2C music is one way to escape. At least for a while. Whe= n i play a seldom THINK (in words=2C) i just DO.=20 =20 Maybe some abstract art is out chance to be a chimpanzee :-) =20 Anders =20 > Date: Tue=2C 3 Mar 2009 23:56:29 +0100 > Subject: Re: Stories > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > On Tue=2C Mar 3=2C 2009 at 9:14 PM=2C samba - wr= ote: > > Seems to me humans have some mysterious(fear of empty space/ambiguity?)= need > > to understand the world and their experiences=2Cand therefor come up wi= th > > stories=2Cmythologies=2C models (scientific =2Cphilosophic etc.)=2C art= =2C > > cosmologies=2C=2C etc. >=20 > Yes=2C that's the typical human way - always telling others about > yourself and your latest experiences. A chimpanzee can learn as many > words as a three year old child but there is a huge difference: when > you meet a child it will never stop telling you stories about whatever > have happened lately. The chimpanzee never tell you a shit=2C whatever > it has been through. >=20 > Per >=20 --_897f6d51-396e-477d-aa01-446c1e13b094_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And that's the difference between music and stories=2C a musical piece = =3B(or a painting )can be just beautiful=2C it doesn't NEED a story.  = =3BIt can =3Bbe just what it is=2C without name=2C myth =3Bor model= .
Every listener can=2C id the want to attach a story to it=2C but the piece = is not a story. It doesn't need a meaning or contain a message=2C it just I= S.
My objection is that by calling musical pieces stories we reduce the conten= t of the music. I think that music is more basic than words=2C a story can = describe a piece of music it can't BE the music. Turning a story into music= is the other way around=2C we go behind the words and try to capture the f= eelings the words describe. Along with Wittgenstein i believe that we are t= rapped in language=2C music is one way to escape. At least for a while. Whe= n i play a seldom THINK (in words=2C) i just DO.
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>=3B On Tue=2C Mar 3=2C= 2009 at 9:14 PM=2C samba - <=3Bsambacomet@hotmail.com>=3B wrote:
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= --_897f6d51-396e-477d-aa01-446c1e13b094_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 23:32:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C93D03BEC5; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49ADBDFD.3020103@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 15:32:13 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1brD2D.A.taF.A4brJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:32:16 +0000 (UTC) Luis wrote, about my Luggage Store videos, "Rock on baby! looks like you are back to minimal DL4 looping? No LP1?" Actually, Carnal, I'm really deep into the LP-1 these days, but I wanted to do a show with less equipment and have it be more footpedal oriented just as a contrast to all of my other work. Also, the Luggage Store has a gnarly set of very high stairs to negotiate and is in a part of Market Street that is surrounded by drug addicts and prostitutes, so I designed a system that I could could get to the gig in a mere two trips from the car (as opposed to the typical five or six trips I take when I really haul in the gear). In fact, I'm doing an entire NOISE and RHYTHM show under a new moniker, Aether Engine at the Blue Lagoon in Santa Cruz this coming Monday night that will be completely different and I'll be heavily using the LP-1 (especially all of it's different replace and random slice modes, along with the BOSS slicer, the Gig FX Pro Chopper and an Alesis Ampliton for rhythmic manipulation of slabs of distortion, fuzz and feedback. One guitar, One bass, One marching snare drum, One marching bass drum, Assorted metal objects and a buttload of gear. I'll have two (2!!!) pedalboards and the LP-1 Minimal instrumentage (for me) and maximal fire power I just like to shake it up all the time, I guess. Yesterday, Erdem asked me if I thought doing so many different kinds of projects might dilute my commercial appeal. The answer is a resounding 'yes'.....................lol. It makes me really happy, though. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 3 23:33:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F288F3BECD; Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=A6g1Y68NuqAwB1Igbl0jEMzhaH1ooaGghv9ulMLgftM=; b=PbogefFRYLNTvpmL+A+PDvnbBWop3LL7/ZU6V2UngbUKI8dMLmw9pIU2l0ZVpZy4ui TZn1o7ICPBnaFGJTvs6RYIYRxzJLST9FiWpG9+n0Gs8DtCMCbVi1P7HaUV+LoTqnVjZA HkP2xLKPDNyOvjUnqulh83u1NVjOxsAZb3o9M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=BbbVy3GokRgXU/M9xQJlW9fvyO9ebuT2rkdYWINsS9da8Gb0RB1+Vd5J9Xj98qQdKF aAwQY9+f4Y5v+0j5AC5VGaHWg/xZ2qr8/X/8iP8zEZ1r91kpljHVkuc/fe88X65fEUb9 kbXvQlEntkAquRI/5uyQZNvjgsY6UOhhLykEk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090303191341.E7F503BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <66f9cc1e0903031456k777e5cedsb5f6132f000c1b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:33:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903031533w25007166j506f66df24058d7c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stories From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 23:33:03 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Anders Bergdahl wrote: > Maybe some abstract art is out chance to be a chimpanzee :-) Yeah, I heard they produce interesting books if locked into a room with type writers. ("abstract", that is....) per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 00:16:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 285C73BEC4; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=XpNG5cCsaNtwmWRT7/CJo9sOwpNY2y8M4iMdHfGn4RyS88BXn7X5N5F1D8NE6O9f+IKjUkmB4NmL6a/NGwu8ar85T9nn61FQ8fXP16VC5SpDU01nrAbxFM1fAUkUwzCNm4aJhgGnXUtY859w98IeKuH0SRA6weGhu1LbA9iz38U=; X-YMail-OSG: Y9PZG2oVM1k71YSNcdOdMpMgj07Kn5UqSNo5Bm7XfVJ8eX7eKQOvtF_oezVLXGbhejMc7CWcR8IovJ4v9Fvu8Jwv_EkZvJxMORCAJJO7i.pMb_zX9x765aW1h0Eqr3Es_MnTWRObmBfZ.g3uR_VzF.G6dArGicmtGULqxVZgJzrq0sEiQUaHaeG2OQvUkvXOBzlW0GD5Bt2Mlt0- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:16:58 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Tremol-No To: Jeff Duke Cc: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <001001c99bc8$fe6053a0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <414133.19384.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Thanx for the tips Bill And Jeff,the nut is something i was not paying much atention to thinking it was mostly due to the quality of the tremolo system.Ive set it flat recently,they come setup with a floating one and it has helped, but it still goes out of tune specially the G string.The nut is the stock one that comes with this models, so ill change it with a geaphite one. ive also swapped the stock pickup for a seymour duncan vintage 59,and though i like it mostly for overdrive i miss that bright and out of phase tone of a tele or strat when playing clean.Iv been asking around if its possible to get such tones changing pickup configurations on this guitars but ive been told by guitar techs that no matter what i do fernandes guitars just wont sound like that ever due to their construction materials.But how is it that some cheap guitars have a great tone then?! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > From: Jeff Duke > Subject: Re: Tremol-No > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:26 PM > Luis, > I have a Fenandes w/ sustainor and tremelo. Mine stays in > tune pretty well. I don't wang it like in the old days > but still use it maybe too much, lol. > Some things you can do to help are to use all 5 springs, > make sure that the strings don't stick at the nut (#1 > reason for detuning IMO). I also use lubrication on all > moving parts and the nut grooves. Graphite works great for > me. I have mine set where it will go up a half step or down > to string slack. I also wind my strings up the peg and > don't use the string tree. I had a Kayler once that I > liked alot but I think you loose something when the strings > don't go through the body. > > peace man, > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" > > To: > Cc: > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: Tremol-No > > > hey Bill, > I was not aware of this thank you!it certainly looks like a > great tremolo issue problem solution! > questions: > Does it also take care of the out of tune problems when > using the tremolo heavily floating or flat? > Did you install it yourself or do you recomend somebody > else doing it? > How would it differ with something like the hipshot > tremsetter? > I have a fernandes sustainer native pro guitar and the > tremolo on it just sucks i cant hardly use it as it goes out > of tune so bad,on the other hand i hate the floyd rose > system so i am trying to find a good solution. > Ive installed the planet waves locking tuner though they > havent cure the problem that much > cheers > Luis > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Per Boysen > wrote: > > > From: Per Boysen > > Subject: Re: Tremol-No > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 3:04 AM > > Googled it and found http://www.tremol-no.com and > watched > > the demo > > videos. This is a great thing for a studio guitarist! > One > > example is > > playing country licks on a floating bar strat. You > > typically pull up > > one string while holding one or two others not pulled. > The > > tension > > from the pulled-up string interacts with the mechanics > to > > lower the > > pitch of all strings, including the ones you play > > non-pulled. The way > > I have been forced to do this - on a floating bar > strat - > > is to > > compensate for that by pulling up the pitch just a > little > > with the > > wammy bar as I pull the string. May sound cool if you > use > > the whammy > > for an additional vibrato but it is not pure country > style. > > But when > > setting the tremol-no to fixed it will behave just > like a > > non-floating > > strat. Nice. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Andreas Willers > > wrote: > > > Bill wrote: I have a thing called a tremel-no in > > place of one of my trem > > > springs that allows me to fix the bridge.... > > > > > > Bill, > > > you are always hip to the latest stuff. Wow - > I'll > > make each of my guitar > > > students with a whammy bar guitar buy one ;-) > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 00:31:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF4E23BEC3; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=hL8elXoE0AEUgEeR5t/cKZT92sWSYOKry87RUPlq0eiJK42B8Hexrf9IRiTMpJ1se2SMy7Xn/e/pFKpWt0Zj6c299IdjxwNTQPzNPTDLxNmJATuR3Nlht6DLeh/HdHbvNA5VhfV+W/s7dNHBqoZnnb+IEhUzzb1+RlCZ7rgzoaE=; X-YMail-OSG: hOScH6EVM1nJ0VHCnINFj62EHxZ86jEpu7X1HIp4QE.NHfmBvHyA6obq72qBNn_UuTAznTk6yvpl8b8uKxjXASKSSnCSt2ztMteoSwMqr8Rj.q3ttxd2yn_mnNIOaDmuszNBwptWYtG0L3EAWKKldE0uexYeXPgPhrsrrKXe74Ccb4Y.D3k9_y1OYkXyvg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:31:32 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49ADBDFD.3020103@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <316280.49677.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:31:35 +0000 (UTC) This perception is something i am curious about...certain people that know you from a previous succesful band or project sort of expect to still see a connection when they see you even if u are doing something different.I sort of follow this,i remeber going to see Marc Ribot after his 2 succesful "cubanos postizos" albums and he shocked everybody by playing abtract non harmonic noise music,he was even trying to use a DL4 and you could tell he didnt have it down.The following day there was a review on the paper citing his concert as a disastrous dissapointment. Anyway sometimes i dont know how the audiences have really perceived my shows...a lot of them come and say hey that was great,and some that know you dont say anything;-) so sometimes i also have the feeling that i have dissapointed some;-) But like you i am happy! Luis Yesterday, Erdem asked me if I thought doing so many > different kinds of projects might dilute my commercial > appeal. > The answer is a resounding > 'yes'.....................lol. > It makes me really happy, though. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 00:34:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 201033BEC5; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3+kiiCjS6/XXzgSB5KzIw35mKITxoLSsHTtoeFMgz/ZVkqGHYWmeOyshu83T5GW6Wb0/Ivalnei53XSwX9Zm3yIN/zlowbhnk6R8/PrJEcxmyFnDKOHNmhucF74FPXWAQ6OX/kGwnMOPFdh8YbRaQ1C5ijOxeGkl1bAAxwRpYjk=; X-YMail-OSG: uJjH9TAVM1kP2LpDrC_ukLUc.rrScXhS0JnTYLaI.ru1luwsa..G_KqTpg3iF25.rnYbsCNrJPsazg4j7OYemcN2wuStJ1GnghjC.RgMdLQx5oLhfLtET8cFXUPbYh7iifD6PlYQfZ_4i56DYrhxbfNZ2w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:34:55 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Stories To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903031456k777e5cedsb5f6132f000c1b2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <372247.61764.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:34:57 +0000 (UTC) LOL!!!!! thats so fuckin true unless they want a banana when > you meet a child it will never stop telling you stories > about whatever > have happened lately. The chimpanzee never tell you a shit, > whatever > it has been through. > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 00:45:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC3533BEC3; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KhnnQ6BPW4Cxcvo2iP2IFnExHMn8VXlcVaEiHI9x62Q=; b=exn9iHTTx29Fs4uXntsDX4W8or935W08QFt3/zXPTxj1mfJDg0W4bkKdc+/KufkTwI RwE4Kc8O/r+WwJTsLtvUzghT3jdXvzoFsv2NeEifrcVMLOSZPo9qkJBuc9fQ4p9zKOEJ YSNGX0ZRyxygPWG2JbsE+u5KUXAmNYZtbG/SA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xHk0l0BSOzNjcaor75L5EyZF7kqYv6nEep1tK6KCeDy+gui7fH6hZGfySythuo+W2D Xq2Qr4zmCMNC4iWuiGQNAdBexwrEIHqXFxowtHwODHUPgs1PRjE4rnqrfXZkPmu85M6W KMCPtQBbo/DXiaDWDlPA50lLi2z7+bubkRh3s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:45:22 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903031645j1f999013uc18c9364d78f3e7d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22decde5d440464405d88 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:45:23 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd22decde5d440464405d88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anders Bergdahl < anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of > music tells a STORY!! > Prethought is what I mean, and is there any. If there is no prethought, and it's human response to frequencies then to me, it's less a "story" by my definition of it... ie it's not something you thought out beforehand and said "i'm going to present in this specific way via these frequencies and auditory touchings"... in any degree. It's purely taking a base and seeing where your current feelings take it. To me, a story is something you can tell even when you're not FEELING that specific story at that specific moment. > It can't really, can it? Can there be meaning in an improvisation?? > Meaning yes. Story... debatable... but I'm thinking, as I define "story", no. Can there be "a" story in improv? Absolutely... but more a story that is found, vs a story that one set down to tell. > Is there meaning in a composition? What is the meaning with "green onions" > or Bethovens 5th or Kind of blue. > You'd have to ask them. 70% of my "abstract" music has very specific meaning. > A story needs meaning, doesn't it?? > Often. Sometimes it's just wordplay. Which is more where I see fully improv movements, as a general meaning (there are exceptions). > > I wo > > But WHY do we feel that some music tells a STORY, there are no narrative > elements, > What do you mean no narrative elements? I think there are fully narrative elements in non word music. > we clearly mean something else than a story in a book, don't we? > Yes, hopefully some of what I'm sharing help s you understand where my questioning comes from. -nn happyhumans.org --000e0cd22decde5d440464405d88 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anders B= ergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote:
But what do we mean when we say that an abstract instrumental peice of musi= c tells a STORY!!

Prethought is what I mean, and= is there any.=A0 If there is no prethought, and it's human response to= frequencies then to me, it's less a "story" by my definition= of it... ie it's not something you thought out beforehand and said &qu= ot;i'm going to present in this specific way via these frequencies and = auditory touchings"... in any degree.=A0 It's purely taking a base= and seeing where your current feelings take it.=A0 To me, a story is somet= hing you can tell even when you're not FEELING that specific story at t= hat specific moment.
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It can't really, can it? Can there be meaning in an improvisation?? <= /div>

Meaning yes.=A0 Story... debatable... but I'm thi= nking, as I define "story", no.=A0 Can there be "a" sto= ry in improv?=A0 Absolutely... but more a story that is found, vs a story t= hat one set down to tell.

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Is=A0there meaning in a composition? What is the meaning wi= th "green onions" or Bethovens 5th or Kind of blue.

You'd have to ask them.=A0 70% of my "abstra= ct" music has very specific meaning.
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A story needs meaning, doesn't=A0it??

O= ften.=A0 Sometimes it's just wordplay.=A0 Which is more where I see ful= ly improv movements, as a general meaning (there are exceptions).
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I wo
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But WHY do we feel that some music tells a STORY, there are no narrative el= ements,

What do you mean no narrative elements?= =A0 I think there are fully narrative elements in non word music.
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we cle= arly mean something else than a story in a book, don't we?

Yes, hopefully some of what I'm sharing help s you understand = where my questioning comes from.

-nn
happyhumans.org

--000e0cd22decde5d440464405d88-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 00:47:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13BA23BEC9; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wgvF6yGF1oE6Tff7daKYQ+BrcWeXKl5+cnq4f4qJ5Xk=; b=eGwQHz0Y7p1K732zpNiaAZt99hVpbPQ1B41sjhdTS+0/GKur60EnmdJLuxioLQ3BC/ ocaw7wktfA3s2sT7JrLqI85VwPs6bXlnpuLR9MpoSxeqcJ7JmJI1jk+3F6ApTZkQTCII XF+KE9WRUjbdYu/PEt+9WGKoLhOYHgYvpy9uY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wPDJcQMqN4GiBMnQl6JdFDaKrGO1hJHZ2v4iq/JkA7ZSZtCDNkDI7z7Evz2sxPj82I 5rEc3EuESHrgV/gFhjTzlxLmZmyaYJfkIdStj1ravM+KmwQ2XyFG4wRi82+WmytMwc+G 7JKNjNFmopnAbZ5RfJaprdXtGvd/4xQoP01iw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090303191341.E7F503BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:40:08 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903031640t3e3d4ff8i35f395aa400526f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stories From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd181922666fe0464404b40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:47:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd181922666fe0464404b40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "A story > needs meaning, doesn't it?" > Indeed. However, define meaning in said context, or try to, and you'll find many different definitions. > > I would say a major component of meaning is emotion, (others include > time,memory/experience, imagination family/social dynamics,reason etc)and > certainly music can express emotional energy. > I am going to add to that, for I agree with you on what you've said. But in line with what I'm saying... true, a story can be found "in the moment", while not knowing what moment comes next... but what I initially meant with "story" vs "not story", via Per's question, was that I more meant prethought vs in the moment... perhaps letting the music assist you in knowing where the next part of the story is (maybe it's a choose your own adventure and you don't know if it's a, b or c until you've played the 4 (or whatever) measures before said movement... vs prethought, where your thoughts are dictating where the music goes before it happens Very simply, improvs that have beginning/middle /end sequential quality are > similar enough to stories > They are similar in that they have such movements, but different in how such movements occur, and what places such movements are directed from. > that they easily become screens for personal emotions to be projected onto. > Absolutely. But to me, prethought vs ?posthought? ?duringthought? are muchmuchmuch more abstract. More about sharing a personal feeling that words can't go to (with improv), but that can inspire words... vs pre thought... which says "i want this story/feeling/emotion/etc to specifically come out in this way. Perhaps using prethought in an improv environment is merely taking all your experimentations of times previous, cataloguing them in your mind in terms of understanding what equals what to you, the storyteller... then thinking before you. That's really what I'm driving at here... thinking before you do and doing that. Doing and thinking while doing. Simply doing. And how we all mix all those approaches. > If the player(s) are expressing emotional energy it can be easy for other's > to relate it their own emotional energy > Perhaps that is the difference I speak of. When we are led by both prethought (or not) and/or letting the music form the story with our emotions/abstractions, we are more shooting forth a very specific idea, that others can then relate to personal... and when more in the moment, music leading thought leading music leading... it seems less specific a story you are telling, but more one that can be widely felt in different ways due to it not being so specific. And don't get me wrong, I love both ways and all in between. -nn happyhumans.org --000e0cd181922666fe0464404b40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=A0=A0=A0=A0 "A story > needs meaning, doesn't it?"
=

Indeed.=A0 However, define meaning in said context, o= r try to, and you'll find many different definitions.

=A0=A0 I would say a major component of meaning is emotion, (other= s include time,memory/experience, imagination family/social dynamics,reason= etc)and certainly music can express emotional energy.
<= div>
I am going to add to that, for I agree with you on what you've said= .=A0 But in line with what I'm saying... true, a story can be found &qu= ot;in the moment", while not knowing what moment comes next... but wha= t I initially meant with "story" vs "not story", via Pe= r's question, was that I more meant prethought vs in the moment... perh= aps letting the music assist you in knowing where the next part of the stor= y is (maybe it's a choose your own adventure and you don't know if = it's a, b or c until you've played the 4 (or whatever) measures bef= ore said movement... vs prethought, where your thoughts are dictating where= the music goes before it happens

Ve= ry simply, improvs that have beginning/middle /end sequential quality are s= imilar enough to stories

They are similar in that they have such movements, bu= t different in how such movements occur, and what places such movements are= directed from.
=A0
that they easily become screens for personal emotions to be projected= onto.

Absolutely.=A0 But to me, prethought vs ?= posthought? ?duringthought? are muchmuchmuch more abstract.=A0 More about s= haring a personal feeling that words can't go to (with improv), but tha= t can inspire words... vs pre thought... which says "i want this story= /feeling/emotion/etc to specifically come out in this way.=A0 Perhaps using= prethought in an improv environment is merely taking all your experimentat= ions of times previous, cataloguing them in your mind in terms of understan= ding what equals what to you, the storyteller... then thinking before you.= =A0

That's really what I'm driving at here... thinking before you d= o and doing that.=A0 Doing and thinking while doing.=A0 Simply doing.=A0 An= d how we all mix all those approaches.
=A0
If the player(s) are expressing emotional energy it can be easy for o= ther's to relate=A0 it their own emotional energy=A0
=

Perhaps that is the difference I speak of.=A0 When we are led by b= oth prethought (or not) and/or letting the music form the story with our em= otions/abstractions, we are more shooting forth a very specific idea, that = others can then relate to personal... and when more in the moment, music le= ading thought leading music leading... it seems less specific a story you a= re telling, but more one that can be widely felt in different ways due to i= t not being so specific.

And don't get me wrong, I love both ways and all in between.
=A0=

-nn
happyhumans.org=

--000e0cd181922666fe0464404b40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 00:51:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11DD63BEC2; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=NRx7VcOK1beeCDDVhg2nTn63Uj5kG66D2+4R2xI6zek=; b=YYV/bpHeSqzhFeYdzBBeP6jVISxvMXwRBHSk3s6QIAJwNK4IY9wwHWmujQQJ5WiprY FmAzbH6FNRGg/sl2b+mOLTf8Iqc2vN+EA9fdImm3h32C9IORWUpgggB6qGPrxs2TODff hA4h9vde0TT1/sOV3UHhoTmd0ty3gRs9vmRag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=eckqxVLC7e9TMFsjspEO5CTKdAFnW87wvGV0d9rGadc6kj+NyvoeA+TTV8A71ofbfR 9OVjqY2Y/zIFXOH3vCOfQ6rIs56hNm8aZOd7XlLrkJAtVEyEErhjH5Y24TCgKh1N2THq ZbDGGxF87rO/rCK5zV/E66F05Ph6M6R9rIMbQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49ACCC85.7050408@cruzio.com> References: <49ACCC85.7050408@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:51:28 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903031651v2d227e72s8b3e7bd80dd17c9b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32e0ab8d24304644073c2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 00:51:29 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32e0ab8d24304644073c2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It bothers me, but not much, as I like to let net annoyances slide. People get really bent out of shape over nothing. On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Steve wrote: > ".while we're talking netiquette, it's still considered shouting by most > web-users to write things all in capitals on email lists and > forums......just sayin' ;)" > > Actually I do know that Steve and I have made this request three or four > times this year alone > and was shouting on purpose. > If I bugged you, I apologize. > > I was just trying to get people's attention, specifically because > speaking in a polite tone of voice over and over doesn't seem to get a > response. > > It's a fascinating phemomenon, though........................without the > use of HTML > (underlining and bold letters) there seems no way to be emphatic when > speaking > as in conversation when you are writing online. > > I get frustrated with net communication sometimes because I want to be > emphatic but without the use of underlining, it pushes buttons if > one capitalizes. > > If this bothers people here in general, I'll stop doing it, I promise. > Let me know. > > > > > > --000e0cd32e0ab8d24304644073c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It bothers me, but not much, as I like to let net annoyances slide.=A0 Peop= le get really bent out of shape over nothing.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrot= e:
Steve wrote:
".while we're talking netiquette, it's still considered shouti= ng by =A0most web-users to write things all in capitals on email lists and = =A0forums......just sayin' ;)"

Actually I do know that Steve and I have made this request three or four ti= mes this year alone
and was shouting on purpose. =A0
If I bugged you, =A0I apologize.

I was just trying to get people's attention, specifically because
speaking in a polite tone of voice over and over doesn't seem to get a = response.

It's a fascinating phemomenon, though........................without th= e use of HTML
(underlining and bold letters) =A0there seems no way to be emphatic when sp= eaking
as in conversation when you are writing online.

I get frustrated with net communication sometimes because I want to be
emphatic but without the use of underlining, =A0 it pushes buttons if
one capitalizes.

If this bothers people here in general, =A0I'll stop doing it, =A0I pro= mise.
Let me know.






--000e0cd32e0ab8d24304644073c2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 01:28:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D61103BEC0; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: tremolo-no no no Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:28:12 -0800 Message-ID: <4E47CA5271024B59AC7FCEB7667111E6@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99C25.70ECCD20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmcaHvg47CHvTJJQYGGvizCCCb53g== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:28:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99C25.70ECCD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought I might post this thread about tremolos that I've been carrying on with Luis in case any one was interested, also in response to your last post Luis, I think it's possible to get many different and great sounds out of your ax. If you want the best of both worlds, I would suggest using a humbuckers with four conductor wiring which would allow more switching versatility. My favorite option on a pickup of this type would be a series/parallel switch that will give you the option of a brighter glassier single coil sound while retaining the humbucking effect in both positions. Unfortunately the Duncan 59er comes with two conductor wiring unless otherwise ordered. It is possible after the fact to have someone change your pickup to four conductor wiring, but I don't know who does that kind of custom work in your local. Don't believe the guitar techs, I think the native pro is an excellent platform for tone experimentation. Bill The tremolo-No is not a stabilizer in the same way the tremsetter is. Different beast. It has three settings, inactive(full floating),Fixed up (meaning you can still low pitch but can't raise it) this is stable for most drop D tunings but not for tunings that involve raising pitches, and Fixed, meaning you could completely fixed the bridge. If you have tuning issues and don't want to go Floyd, your on the right track with the tuners, also eliminating friction at the nut with graphite or Teflon lubricant, making sure the strings are properly stretched and not dead, etc.. but the most important thing is, are the strings pinching at the nut , if so that's where you will have strings pulling sharp. Have a qualified guy take a look at it and replace it if necessary, Its worth paying for. Bone sounds the best but graphite nuts are very good for tremolos. As far as the tremol-no, goes I put mine in, I don't know how good you are with that stuff. Here is the link on Allparts site http://www.allparts.com/store/tremol-no,Product.asp, If you need to replace your tremolo, here's what I use. http://www.allparts.com/store/guitar-bridges-vintage-style-tremolos-sb-5315- 001,Product.asp, also this is cool shit for your nuts buddy :)called graphit-all http://www.ghsstrings.com/products.php, Good Luck Bill And.. If the spacing and screw holes are the same on your two instruments, then the one I suggested would work for either as it's designed to retrofit vintage style bridges. Several things are more precision like saddles that can be securely anchored and not wag, easier to intonate with a little thumb wheel that you screw in to the back of each saddle and push the saddle forward or back ward without having to use your fingers or detuning the guitar, a push in tremolo bar with tension adjustment read more here, my hands are hurting http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar_tremolos/Wil kinson_Gotoh_VSVG_Vintage_Tremolo.html, Bill ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99C25.70ECCD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 I thought I = might post this thread about tremolos that I’ve been carrying on with Luis in = case any one was interested, also in response to your last post Luis, I think = it’s possible to get many different and great sounds out of your ax. If you = want the best of both worlds, I would suggest using a humbuckers with four = conductor wiring which would allow more switching versatility. My favorite option = on a pickup of this type would be a series/parallel switch that will give you = the option of a brighter glassier single coil sound while retaining the = humbucking effect in both positions. Unfortunately the Duncan 59er comes with two conductor = wiring unless otherwise ordered. It is possible after the fact to have someone = change your pickup to four conductor wiring, but I don’t know who does = that kind of custom work in your local. Don’t believe the guitar techs, I = think the native pro is an excellent platform for tone = experimentation.

 Bill

 

 

The tremolo-No is = not a stabilizer in the same way the tremsetter is. Different beast. It has = three settings, inactive(full floating),Fixed up (meaning you can still low = pitch but can't raise it) this is stable for most drop D tunings but not for = tunings that involve raising pitches, and Fixed, meaning you could completely fixed = the bridge. If you have tuning issues and don't want to go Floyd, your on = the right track with the tuners, also eliminating friction at the nut with = graphite or Teflon lubricant, making sure the strings are properly stretched and not = dead, etc.. but the most important thing is, are the strings pinching at the = nut , if so that's where you will have strings pulling sharp. Have a qualified = guy take a look at it and replace it if necessary, Its worth paying for. Bone = sounds the best but graphite nuts are very good for tremolos. As far as the = tremol-no, goes I put mine in, I don't know how good you are with that stuff. Here = is the link on Allparts site http://www.a= llparts.com/store/tremol-no,Product.asp,   If you need to replace  your tremolo, here's what I use. http://www.allparts.com/store/guitar-bridges-= vintage-style-tremolos-sb-5315-001,Product.asp,  also this is cool shit for your nuts buddy :)called graphit-all http://www.ghsstrings.com= /products.php,

Good = Luck

 Bill

 And.. If the = spacing and screw holes are the same on your two instruments, then the one I = suggested would work for either as it's designed to retrofit vintage style = bridges. Several things are more precision like saddles that can be securely = anchored and not wag, easier to intonate with a little thumb wheel that you screw in = to the back of each saddle and push the saddle forward or back ward without = having to use your fingers or detuning the guitar, a push in tremolo bar with = tension adjustment read more here, my hands are hurting http://www.stewmac.com= /shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar_tremolos/Wilkinson_Gotoh_VSVG_V= intage_Tremolo.html,

 Bill

 

------=_NextPart_000_001A_01C99C25.70ECCD20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 01:30:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B720E3BEC2; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:30:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Wl3rtYVDcRrtjZi4DQEhukj0RSynCCyDqJqZuiF9mldTJBiwfj4h+2hJxlZPO3Fpe2NbtUNVjdjg9bfBtU70ttwlpwt+mfJYy1HYcGb0IVU6R5DgpVkO7MVEDjSK/Kv2B5bOqSfh1Q3C0C2WQRVKWjkHF2TJEpR/NEVwVsbrI88=; X-YMail-OSG: _3lNZsMVM1nw01XEOfMPSM1p1fgDpVDQCAF4dcVFc2iw8fwbxqBIti.KQJA.K5o.ZRc2e94.ZIW1SYOMK3z13dePPz2chxmNQWFzKH1Ry.qQnPsPlae4iDbE78YFQK4q0j.quYEq08YfLyfilghUEqtj8x5Xvg4EmzBg.G3uBtKROLOkZRU6u6juyU6QYVjEd4YCp_zzrYSoveU7h3OH41.lNgncdPbrJCZn7dKwHBXx2efH X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:30:25 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <333287c30903031645j1f999013uc18c9364d78f3e7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <871329.62872.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 01:30:26 +0000 (UTC) what about a backward loop,what kind of a story does it tell you? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Nevyn Nowhere wrote: > From: Nevyn Nowhere > Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 4:45 PM > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anders Bergdahl < > anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > But what do we mean when we say that an abstract > instrumental peice of > > music tells a STORY!! > > > > Prethought is what I mean, and is there any. If there is > no prethought, and > it's human response to frequencies then to me, it's > less a "story" by my > definition of it... ie it's not something you thought > out beforehand and > said "i'm going to present in this specific way > via these frequencies and > auditory touchings"... in any degree. It's purely > taking a base and seeing > where your current feelings take it. To me, a story is > something you can > tell even when you're not FEELING that specific story > at that specific > moment. > > > > It can't really, can it? Can there be meaning in > an improvisation?? > > > > Meaning yes. Story... debatable... but I'm thinking, > as I define "story", > no. Can there be "a" story in improv? > Absolutely... but more a story that > is found, vs a story that one set down to tell. > > > > > Is there meaning in a composition? What is the meaning > with "green onions" > > or Bethovens 5th or Kind of blue. > > > > You'd have to ask them. 70% of my "abstract" > music has very specific > meaning. > > > > A story needs meaning, doesn't it?? > > > > Often. Sometimes it's just wordplay. Which is more > where I see fully > improv movements, as a general meaning (there are > exceptions). > > > > > I wo > > > > But WHY do we feel that some music tells a STORY, > there are no narrative > > elements, > > > > What do you mean no narrative elements? I think there are > fully narrative > elements in non word music. > > > > we clearly mean something else than a story in a book, > don't we? > > > > Yes, hopefully some of what I'm sharing help s you > understand where my > questioning comes from. > > -nn > happyhumans.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 07:34:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 508773BEB2; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:34:24 +0100 Message-ID: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> Thread-Index: AcmcZI6b/4WRt3eVRxG6CiPG8HOzNAANry7A X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.98; VDF: 7.1.2.107) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:34:26 +0000 (UTC) I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's LOFT together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 08:24:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CE9C3BEBA; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wfPTOkUxk0brW/kXLhsp5se4n3ziyHlCe9BIMgWk0Mk=; b=ed1UgxdeeGciy+LYIIVUrta3LhscMQK7JSx694PNY+CTjtel6TRpeJB7KxStfocHSc FbDB2HnUuMg1JOXooTbTsmxHRKqYsLlLk+Po3w7OU9aMinLDbBS2vf/yIgbHeF3WtxKi fpYmhZsJ1eYVnNqxqa1f/1Q6rHVOdc3eU1qRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aC86sPf0Ahq6OO3oMGPidJgb2fA8tC30OpkJNEiCaIbkOiE4HrVcnCDkU6WI+DNAsJ FZVZxF9ZudtDrYyVrPUKu7DkGfUJLmZWFtp0uilu6cUtyBkhgaa9eDgmkKiSYmDyT/V3 fkixj925BYr9tONEKUgBZ3K0DASoiikYUFvuo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:24:10 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903040024l16f6099cld9d1c3ff6baa0b7f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:24:11 +0000 (UTC) How nice being able to retro-distance listening to such a great gig! I really like the set you did. Reminds me of old FSOL stuff, but with a weird guitar touch to those synthy sound washes. This could go on for hours... sounds and associated ideas, one giving the other through a never-ending journey. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's LO= FT > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com =A0-Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 13:20:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF8FB3BEA6; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <13973.72.51.1236172804.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <20090303194713.M43727@cruzio.com> References: <20090303194713.M43727@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:20:04 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 13:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rick, Cool piece. Love the tuning fork ambient loop sound. How'd you do that? Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Tue, March 3, 2009 3:54 pm, Rick Walker wrote: > > I just uploaded two pieces from my Luggage Store Experimental Music > Series performance last Thursday night to a > new youtube channel that I created for my live performance work: > > If you are interested, I posted > "Music for Toy Music Box and Distortion" > and > "Music for Tuning Forks, Conch Shell and Purple Trumpet" > at: > > www.youtube.com/rickwalkerlivelooper > > Also, I have a collection of lo fidelity toy video 'animations' of > my abstract electronic compositions up at: > > www.youtube.com/looppool > > and some live videos from last summer's European/UK looping tour at: > > www.youtube.com/DaygloOrangePlastic > > Though I'll probably move most of those videos over to my > new channel later this week. > > In other news: Erdem Helvacioglu is visiting us for a week, making a > record with Bill (which I may contribute some percussion to). It's so > great to have he and his lovely wife here. > -- > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 14:39:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1D6F3BE97; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236177570; bh=/AF0xZZGGf8Qac/Ct2Z5Ta6dclA0vKYBaHU6TxCGIlI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Fw4lltnd8jAcLg7cc8Wtn5FCI2hJnK4BFva0ffk0ZYo/4IM1db1qRjJFCB7y4Y6enKU137xtYjVHbwm9tFCHRD+TLEDev+ccrFp6n5PFk4OPl6Qm0CZ4CmK2hGyqCBHIfq+CpjHzHnX8B8M9SLK3GQ3OIkUkJPgpMTi+OfTnYsI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZMrG5GMiZNYsx6uwXQh8+06ACv01m38pX5NY85eWaNcJ12WOC2KIumc1uxR0XK1kKkiAqkLtrlFbwwbM6/sIbfBvWEQApVF/I+bY1GQxr27cvQzeWIbVVObE8XA9CmcR/ajwgR+CHOtAUGeFA0Rf3Ldpm9wefggHfjk1Ngc1C2c=; Message-ID: <978669.9893.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WqEQJ6kVM1kY0AL5Kz8MvDwcAGBQDyabHluZEI1XFe9FfEa70eR1ZtnDkIRrIfbxp82wybOS9v3M2qi0At05NOGrvghefmuYNNzveIP0SKkyeui1WjwQX4cffBrcUw.410GTIke0jNLQZTFQXIjEOmQSgwDpC6EmkJ4cNLtpi8n9SuSXcMLM5T.L363QPEVWsaw- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:39:29 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <8sgffB.A.3dH.iKprJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:39:30 +0000 (UTC) jus beautiful Michael i love those soundscapes you do! so i see you ve gone lappy,how do you feel with bidule are u not using the Roland synth anymore then? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Michael Peters wrote: > From: Michael Peters > Subject: 21 min improv @ loft > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 11:34 PM > I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on > Saturday in Cologne's LOFT > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv > and a short > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 16:52:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC3633BE97; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236185578; bh=l9laanXmM+Si0y7lNaI1pvotJ67MIgzNTiRdCaveEs0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XFoXYkObn51eOkXnkBra7Q9H/hALEo3UjSCcXM80Xrml8iApU8eUyLtFADQ9NfMV8zKtKW79nmSOAh5USK59CK8ekDKTb0x/29GcTiuGqjm5gy6VXmAl38TC6wb6lYIxQkgdscMJOnDKEfWDCxgaDBYvhQQQyl6F3Kx+bI4MkdA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0InMPcV6DHK01co1gXykDt2nawPbBbwqq62ayfjhjMRcRzRQ9qoNmDO9tmM3MP1bx4L8XHSwQgjJDeikWdQT9YLcp1EfFqRcJ7m/WHiNhxbDSVnnADCVldKM6Usuf2wcNGQ6OgAutNPDaUNEMemOWCPreAmn3TmL5e/RY2TRlCU=; Message-ID: <748105.9706.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dnwNRUUVM1kkcFRDOfarY9T_Wnd6Nu7HloVzyjDwgnT5OQWB.iR7cxRb3kZeks5_LPQhxtSFKIcFEJ8IBdEX6HBXBszAgFqukvNXyDDP9XSWRJq5f3od.YawSslitXlOmeXa9Yffgc3oTaIuL0DiAQyJ3elj75EHco3KTpqT5X7jWbFY.NPu0.2MN5yRFc4.ClayYbx02pQneNxwrCAb0NrDfR4rWpdz5hW3TIw7H9ll X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: OT:tremolo-no no no (pu's ,trems, etc) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-336530967-1236185578=:9706" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:52:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-336530967-1236185578=:9706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i sort of debate the "try to get as many sounds as possible" from pu's. a couple of weeks ago i was watching some youtube vids of brian may demo his red special and the sounds he could get (they seemed like old vhs instructional tapes for japanese market?)-anyway, i love his guitar, and was just amazed at the amt of sounds he can get w/ his individual phase switches on his guitar. but for me i've never been a huge fan of the in/out of phase options, but on my main guitar i do like to have the on/off switches (instead of pu selector)-it's my way of getting on/off sounds that tom morello/buckethead can get, and i like having my microphone mounted for feedback and the switch to kill the ground (more noise) (when i saw henry kaiser's dvd of him playing his teuffel tesla-just loved that guitar!!!!) as-for the trem issue-i appreciate the great things evh/vai/satch/dime could do w/ a floyd rose. but to me THAT THING IS A COMPLICATED MESS-i could never get my old kramer pacer to stay in tune (EVER!), and then when i built my last gtr-i started to put a floyd on (to try it)-that thing was a disaster, so i ended up getting a standard strat trem-used just 2 outside screws to create the pivot pts (but the guitar is routed for a floyd, sort of funny), & use locking tuners (planet waves). and that thing won't go out of tune for the most part. never understood the floyd, maybe you need to have a guitar tech to keep it working.....i guess in the end, i do like a guitar w/ options-i favor guitars w/ trems for bending options, and flexable electronics. but then again, i'm also not interested in cover tunes, so i could understand having simpler guitar b/c it has to cover certain specific ground.... great debate luis & william-thanks for your input....in the end i'm sure it's all down to preference s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en --0-336530967-1236185578=:9706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
i sort of debate the "try to get as many sounds as possible" from pu's. a couple of weeks ago i was watching some youtube vids of brian may demo his red special and the sounds he could get (they seemed like old vhs instructional tapes for japanese market?)-anyway, i love his guitar, and was just amazed at the amt of sounds he can get w/ his individual phase switches on his guitar.
but for me i've never been a huge fan of the in/out of phase options, but on my main guitar i do like to have the on/off switches (instead of pu selector)-it's my way of getting on/off sounds that tom morello/buckethead can get, and i like having my microphone mounted for feedback and the switch to kill the ground (more noise) (when i saw henry kaiser's dvd of him playing his teuffel tesla-just loved that guitar!!!!)

as-for the trem issue-i appreciate the great things evh/vai/satch/dime could do w/ a floyd rose. but to me THAT THING IS A COMPLICATED MESS-i could never get my old kramer pacer to stay in tune (EVER!), and then when i built my last gtr-i started to put a floyd on (to try it)-that thing was a disaster, so i ended up getting a standard strat trem-used just 2 outside screws to create the pivot pts (but the guitar is routed for a floyd, sort of funny), & use locking tuners (planet waves). and that thing won't go out of tune for the most part. never understood the floyd, maybe you need to have a guitar tech to keep it working.....i guess in the end, i do like a guitar w/ options-i favor guitars w/ trems for bending options, and flexable electronics. but then again, i'm also not interested in cover tunes, so i could understand having simpler guitar b/c it has to cover certain specific ground....
great debate luis & william-thanks for your input....in the end i'm sure it's all down to preference
s----
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en


--0-336530967-1236185578=:9706-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 17:17:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 084093BE97; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=QEzL+tiA3zRafSEXRkNNc3ADF2eNvNodfyzsXgXHu+0=; b=vjZoSgD7Zya/TVfl+tfHAwG28zpSAzAwanOmKfiRM4KG28p+B/cFTiO0m7gyCIVfdK 0KaG6qgbinbefW6r9XrVbvPOimzVcF2diCsRD3yYXYP/HCauP7Io5zCl0rSgaZZr86qA DasZeN9r+QmiUoQakv8WJYYVA6BmpiBhXaDBU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aSIskiu2XW++Xvz93yfMzw3dgAx1BxQl235orceFU/x26VAQO6XCtzYTEJhaG2BjRa xrI87vNsT5DidwHZgqq+7LqD4ir/ym0UIACduRNT2VK2WUGagZ9WHkqA+D+BB8/UxH9U MTxasiFUcK+HzdHNlrA5DKH7vgi/QH69MnssY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <748105.9706.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <748105.9706.qm@web33105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:17:42 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903040917pd3e796fvb58ad7f34a1ac051@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT:tremolo-no no no (pu's ,trems, etc) From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:17:42 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:52 PM, scott hansen wrote: > so i ended up getting a standard strat trem-used just 2 outside screws to > create the pivot pts (but the guitar is routed for a floyd, sort of funny), > & use locking tuners (planet waves). and that thing won't go out of tune for > the most part. never understood the floyd, maybe you need to have a guitar > tech to keep it working.... I too have mostly been using standard strat trems with just the two outside screws, setting it up as freely floating so I can move the pitch in both directions and smoothing the nut scores with a pen to stay in tune. And I too was amazed by how awkward the Floyd is. I have one guitar with a Kahler trem though, and it is ok; using just two bolts on the sides to balance string pull vs springs. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 17:50:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E78293BEA6; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hi+optV1t0LvQQfoP1vCtfIYhHOtO4e4cVKYglINJtQ=; b=cqmtWTxFjEKJxfsuTIjwAu2NyZ/aWt4JkC3uW1F2eiwJSVDMhwVUFXHuViTq98nmSI hb3sYWefiA+GEEwVwM2yWNVyMovfIkjYt1G7rhtxWS7Qcz69ePUJxu3uAMMx1RLI1V3F hm3yzK0EEj/MTfzminO6b473qbh2jkaITV/xM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uJzEHWLS1lCrwKWxYe7UVHYZO8K5651MbD5pigGeTReWBRapF24rrkaQ2eemcRsqqM oiFlcoqdJQkJ8Bb5JxOi/Z3CnVjFeRNteBgCdWBzYfBm8eeRUbycvXo9E3yo4eenpxKP AuqF1bai8NxhVVLYcwMQFcD/gZlQYAzV84VeA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <978669.9893.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <978669.9893.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:44:18 -0500 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903040944n424c26c1q3b79013d5bf24799@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft From: Jim Goodin To: labaloops@yahoo.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163628517cf9a5a204644e9993 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 17:50:13 +0000 (UTC) --00163628517cf9a5a204644e9993 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael echo'd here, streamd it twice as so many cool details. I particularly liked the last 2 or 3 minutes where you went to this funky kind of groove with the other stuff floating on top. Good set! On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > jus beautiful Michael i love those soundscapes you do! > so i see you ve gone lappy,how do you feel with bidule are u not using the > Roland synth anymore then? > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Michael Peters wrote: > > > From: Michael Peters > > Subject: 21 min improv @ loft > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 11:34 PM > > I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on > > Saturday in Cologne's LOFT > > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv > > and a short > > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --00163628517cf9a5a204644e9993 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael echo'd here, streamd it twice as so many cool details.=A0 I par= ticularly liked the last 2 or 3 minutes where you went to this funky kind o= f groove with the other stuff floating on top.=A0 Good set!

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:39 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

jus beautiful Michael i love= those soundscapes you do!
so i see you ve gone lappy,how do you feel wi= th bidule are u not using the Roland synth anymore then?

www.= myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Michael Peters= <mp@mpeters.de> wrote:

&= gt; From: Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de= >
> Subject: 21 min improv @ loft
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> = Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 11:34 PM
> I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening'= ; on
> Saturday in Cologne's LOFT
> together with Craig Gre= en and Michael Frank. My solo improv
> and a short
> report is = here: veloopit= y.blogspot.com =A0-Michael







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Chinapainting -
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Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
--00163628517cf9a5a204644e9993-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 18:00:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 682C83BEB2; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <978669.9893.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:00:38 +0100 Message-ID: <006501c99cf3$206e8630$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acmc8rIudPK5Nc0VR/O95ZXsk6yK1AAACZ1w In-Reply-To: <978669.9893.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.98; VDF: 7.1.2.114) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:00:42 +0000 (UTC) > jus beautiful Michael i love those soundscapes you do! > so i see you ve gone lappy,how do you feel with bidule are u > not using the Roland synth anymore then? thanks Luis ... it feels good to do everything with software ... travelling light ... I really want to get rid of as much hardware as possible, at least for long-distance gigs. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 18:02:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ACB73BE9E; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <66f9cc1e0903040024l16f6099cld9d1c3ff6baa0b7f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:02:55 +0100 Message-ID: <006601c99cf3$721710b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acmc8rIsXvzchsIpRiOjqR2ZtgUCYwAAHeeg In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903040024l16f6099cld9d1c3ff6baa0b7f@mail.gmail.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.98; VDF: 7.1.2.114) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:02:57 +0000 (UTC) > really like the set you did. Reminds me of old FSOL stuff, but with a > weird guitar touch to those synthy sound washes. This could go on for > hours... sounds and associated ideas, one giving the other through a > never-ending journey. thanks Per ... yeah, the end uses FSOL-like sequencers ... it is the Slicer doing that, with added delay. I'll try to get more fluent with all of these new possibilities ... looking forward to the next gigs -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 18:25:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FC053BEBA; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VY3CLOfG/3xlSprySjMPMI71J9IwAuFP81jTZebt07Y=; b=nhvMNDnk2h9XWmy0Xo0jY4belZLQXepZr9FOIxMfkgrtYF5pKuvj+Bp98eO7NVAbeW mrHl29npOVfXHCGfGaErIkjbTef1pPkmHXY07TYu2fKdK2hBI3FxGPJtvQyebkceEPlm ptTU5mPZVPNS09Gb2LiiEktYfbvf15c0w42dY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=baUnLrD4gunWWsPmYMmOI2ypGA6NIRxeTvQRUTRBSmp4U/+Pay+8QxDpUVoK4RzcvX z7SiK3Vbd7QxEAzfHi2pq3roKH9Dq1wPpPmMnA+GJK38wridvT0TSAEmSjuiGx/kmaG5 zfIGu25uSrOz1P8ByuiCGZVAO7D5UXX9ybbFQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:25:47 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903041025n5f2952c5u3a6386f052724b83@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Rick Walker looping videos up at youtube From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Rick said: "In fact, I'm doing an entire NOISE and RHYTHM show under a new moniker, Aether Engine at the Blue Lagoon in Santa Cruz this coming Monday night that will be completely different and I'll be heavily using the LP-1 (especially all of it's different replace and random slice modes, along with the BOSS slicer, the Gig FX Pro Chopper and an Alesis Ampliton for rhythmic manipulation of slabs of distortion, fuzz and feedback." ...and I hope you're going to record that show? I think I said it before, but I'll say it again: you really should check out the discontinued Nord MicroModular - which, although designed as a virtual-modular synthesizer, may be the most flexible effects processor under =802k5 or so. Actually, when all this discussion about the Boss Slicer (including critizism that you can't record your own patterns) started here, I quickly created a Slicer emulation including the option to record your own patterns... I did the same some time ago to create an advanced ZVex OohWah, combined with an AntiWah and pattern-sequencable distortion. Claude Voit used the successor, the Modular G2, to control his EDP, making it some kind of hardware-based generic script engine. You may want to pair it with a MIDI fader box though, because the three knobs and one button are never enough. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 19:09:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C01B3BEBE; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4187632F0FD5438D8C0401C54003EA6B@pcfabio> From: "eterogeneo" To: References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:09:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:09:17 +0000 (UTC) Very beautiful atmosphere and sounds, Michael ! I can feel the "here and now" of your set ! ...That can happens when one have no idea about what to play.... I'd like to know which fx-plugins played in bidule. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:34 AM Subject: 21 min improv @ loft >I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's LOFT > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 07:41:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 19:59:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FA223BEB6; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=EnmsbxyAnJ+DT84KCam0vSx537u1bWYUXPQTV/Yq8vU=; b=r5EXl8KfjxaJZ9nx87wEBEycCNbScKm4+bWM7ipSYjbujeQYsmx2xydLsL51ViV/Iu adBgR7BgPOzSDdXulSflI0ch5K75LZr1Ste8YQZohIAk6Z/2hu08bwG6EXbnlh5fGphJ sXYzFlXxwyNZvMjnieR98POXkZbPkEghWR+k0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qSzKJ3IWukUWHBxQHwGU6uiK8lou9zEfKZE8AI3ecqZOR2ZMQWmsFOu2keki4ah3d1 CPOGxGZJSxTLC2q+a/vcjMsSTiKSZB9ZMTqw6CwyM/urlpCVnlEWV8ZI6CVmVlB2UewG qo5zCE0nKiaoBFzUEeQiuz9h27TM451BmcdZY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 11:59:46 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bf8935f553513e2b Message-ID: Subject: Kaoss Pad + Live midi clock sync issues From: Nick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:59:47 +0000 (UTC) Hey everyone, I've been having a problem and I'm finally tired of it so I want to fix it. I have an iMac running os x 10.5.6 (this has been happening since like 10.5.2 so it's not a new issue, it has been going on since I got everything), with a Kaoss pad hooked up to it set to sync midi clocks with ableton over usb. The pad is set to external, ableton is set to send midi clock, and os x recognizes the pad, yet half the time when I turn on the pad it doesn't sync up. I can reboot my machine and it syncs, but that isn't feasible if I go to a gig. Does anyone else have a similar problem or know a way to fix this? I don't know if it's connected, but if I turn the pad off then on os x often loses track of it (doesn't appear in audio midi setup no matter what I do) until a relog/reboot. Thanks in advance! Nick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 20:16:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7EBA3BEB9; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:16:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pJmDy5nkyAEL7bvHcjABNXY3hlrs58S7dF3Hu+gl77o=; b=r30Foq2MFMFIvKr7igI5OLT+VxVce8md5bsuMYJPZPYFolSgP8b39Lo4n05seF7KKX jU8aWj9yOfspd3tRB1vL5paY0yGkhr6M+dmwFi93CIxWgJ1ImdOn1fimX50ORqTQn8vs LtHU7VumZY+GhlTImEz0OVoZMqnbeCC5M4XSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=cOWt5ZHUPycl0lUXLt/Ms/82Re9H8lrkDiMKk/92FgEeuNqOwR3Y+TC4WeCrMa8T+U HdrgCt3UpdHdcj+sQIoDRcaHZip9Vln7hq85vZjSAXZoDyowrQjfa3/XLBbTF1QXefrA ypa7y5kILeEd+m1cISPEBDouEIqYmuL27s63o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4187632F0FD5438D8C0401C54003EA6B@pcfabio> References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <4187632F0FD5438D8C0401C54003EA6B@pcfabio> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:11:18 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd296ec914950046450a792 Resent-Message-ID: <0QULZB.A.D-D.gGurJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:16:32 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd296ec914950046450a792 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit absolutely gorgeous, michael! loved it On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM, eterogeneo wrote: > Very beautiful atmosphere and sounds, Michael ! > I can feel the "here and now" of your set ! > ...That can happens when one have no idea about what to play.... > I'd like to know which fx-plugins played in bidule. > > Fabio > www.eterogeneo.com > www.myspace.com/eterogeneo > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:34 AM > Subject: 21 min improv @ loft > > > I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's >> LOFT >> together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short >> report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1983 - Release Date: 03/04/09 > 07:41:00 > > --000e0cd296ec914950046450a792 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable absolutely gorgeous, michael! loved it

On= Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM, eterogeneo <info@eterogeneo.com> wrote:
Very beautiful atmosphere and sounds, Michael !
I can feel the "here and now" of your set !
...That can happens when one have no idea about what to play....
I'd like to know which fx-plugins played in bidule.

Fabio
www.eterogeneo.com<= /a>
www.myspace= .com/eterogeneo


----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" <mp@mpeters.de>

To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:34 AM

Subject: 21 min improv @ loft


I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologn= e's LOFT
together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short
report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com =A0-Michael




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--000e0cd296ec914950046450a792-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 20:24:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1783C3BE9E; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-06.arcor-online.net 6973139A82F DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236198239; bh=YUb28MMwQdAIrN/qwXVQ9/t2ECoBaeasC+iOvrek5yM=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=HmJk9Ja5Eo/TXQ6ePgYj58GWlmT49g4A5yr1aH87Mkr2Y Ue1iRj+u8ZcZZnqYqpbK9L6Qk32WepjPIGiQPGWm8dpoEPD0NSH040Cuve88BOQ2A1V uBDeLVFuUEAFPM60rLwvAK3J2wSWEO6mdWKPmScaFbwJAex0iFGRR8dyBd8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: EDP problem Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:23:58 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9067/Wed Mar 4 11:06:09 2009 on mail-in-06.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:24:01 +0000 (UTC) I have a black Gibson EDP here that doesn't seem to like my old analog Obie footcontroler. When I press RECORD it sometimes jumps into PARAMETERS, even causing the unit to crash. Bad thing is it doesn't happen regularily. Frontpanel button presses of RECORD worked fine so far. Has anyone experienced similar problems? Any hint is appreciated. Thanks, Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 20:55:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 739CA3BE97; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_11b72bfa-3d97-4b1b-a2cf-5be896e7a11d_" X-Originating-IP: [63.249.88.97] From: samba - To: Subject: Master's degree in Beatles Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:55:07 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 20:55:08.0168 (UTC) FILETIME=[806E4080:01C99D0B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:55:09 +0000 (UTC) --_11b72bfa-3d97-4b1b-a2cf-5be896e7a11d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UK University Offers Masters In The Beatles LONDON =97 The city of Liverpool already has a Beatles museum and its airport is named after John Lennon. Now a local university says it rolling out a graduate program entirely devoted to the Fab Four.Liverpool Hope University said Tuesday that its new master's program=2C "The Beatles=2C Popular Music and Society=2C" would give students the opportunity to analyze music and culture through the band's work."There have been over 8=2C000 books about the Beatles but there has never been serious academic study and that is what we are going to address=2C" said Mike Brocken=2C who is directing the program at the university=2C which is in the band's hometown in northwestern England.Brocken said students would be expected to study the Beatles' songs=2C stardom=2C hometown and cultural impact through four 12-week courses and a dissertation.Brocken said studying the band was really a way of examining s= ociety as a whole."If popular music is about anything=2C it's about people=2C" he said. "If we look at popular culture=2C it simply provides us with a very complex mirror of ourselves."___On the Net:Liverpool Hope University: http://www.ho= pe.ac.uk/ If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness=2C then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present.Ludwig Wittgenstein EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOOD Join me= --_11b72bfa-3d97-4b1b-a2cf-5be896e7a11d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


LONDON =97 The city of Liverpool already has a Beatles museum and its airport is named after John Lennon. Now a local university says it rolling out a graduate program entirely devoted to the Fab Four.

Liv= erpool Hope University said Tuesday that its new master's program=2C "The Beatles=2C Popular Music and Society=2C" would give students the opportunity to analyze music and culture through the band's work.

"There have been over 8=2C000 books about the Beatles but there has never been serious academic study and that is what we are going to address=2C" said Mike Brocken=2C who is directing the program at the university=2C which is in the band's hometown in northwestern England.

Brocken said students would be expected to study the Beatles' songs=2C stardom=2C hometown and cultural impact through four 12-week courses and a dissertation.

Brocken said studying the band was really = a way of examining society as a whole.

"If popular music is about anything=2C it's about people=2C" he said. "If we look at popular culture=2C it simply provides us with a very complex mirror of ourselves."

___

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Liverpool Hope University: =3Bhttp://www.hope.ac= .uk/








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= --_11b72bfa-3d97-4b1b-a2cf-5be896e7a11d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 20:58:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 769113BE98; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Kaoss Pad + Live midi clock sync issues Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:58:26 +0100 Message-ID: <001901c99d0b$f75a6f70$030313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcmdA8mgKIRwTGrFQB+yTkfMlhogpgAB+RMg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <8MuyGB.A.8rF.zturJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 20:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nick, I have a KP3 here. I know there have been midi sync issues in OS 1.x of the Kp3. I use version 2.0, mine sync fine but I have not connected it to my Mac. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 21:05:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8CC83BE95; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:05:18 +0100 Message-ID: <001c01c99d0c$ecd4d7b0$030313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcmcZI6b/4WRt3eVRxG6CiPG8HOzNAANry7AABwsWSA= In-Reply-To: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, Unfortunately I couldn't come last Saturday, next time better :) I like the way you mix different Ambient sounds and fx and then create a totally relaxed soundscape. You are a good example of "less is more", you have the patience to wait and listen before you add new chords and notes. This is realy good. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 22:00:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D78A33BE91; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:00:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_cc49ef32-3dbf-494c-a001-9df451234f00_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:00:16 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 22:00:16.0412 (UTC) FILETIME=[99ECF5C0:01C99D14] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:00:16 +0000 (UTC) --_cc49ef32-3dbf-494c-a001-9df451234f00_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really good Michael=2C gret inspiration thanks =20 Anders www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl =20 > From: mp@mpeters.de > I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's LO= FT > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael >=20 --_cc49ef32-3dbf-494c-a001-9df451234f00_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really good Michael=2C gret inspiration thanks
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Anders
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>=3B I played a nice 'e= xperimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's LOFT
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= --_cc49ef32-3dbf-494c-a001-9df451234f00_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 22:51:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDA153BE8E; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_367752ab-4c28-4a51-a787-b4eed3281ac4_" X-Originating-IP: [63.249.88.97] From: samba - Subject: Microfest 3 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:51:43 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2009 22:51:44.0068 (UTC) FILETIME=[CA4FE040:01C99D1B] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:51:44 +0000 (UTC) --_367752ab-4c28-4a51-a787-b4eed3281ac4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.microtonalprojects.co.uk/uk_microfest_3.html --_367752ab-4c28-4a51-a787-b4eed3281ac4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.microtonalprojects.co.uk/uk_microfest_3.html
= --_367752ab-4c28-4a51-a787-b4eed3281ac4_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 23:09:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8E9F3BE8F; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236208160; bh=VRC3d2L4Slzs5wzqHFGTL7WgojxnQEYANdO/yJ2TVRs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ssApgqt1RKLPo7n4kbJlXp5x3yt4cWsdybr6Bd+1jhbDxylluYzE9+oWPTVUojUhl4iMG4ost7HB9ZIO/dnjfOaVWRO60LfHuHJJ6cgngtkWpADs7IsS6WNhr4T10cc0Janmk+LRNN811438JkdQ8PpNzftKx7jeB5hIcTAYXAQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3Knb4bHOgsFJwLk2GmxPbIva6PQ6Ygooi4MocxM3l5lLcBIJJAeO3WhVtp2Nzu+MXg0VNzbkf9P04u1abfEgkPCp6Zdic0nr/AqTTvLnXIIaY203W4y5Qh4gxBc3omGtNqOp+GOEhhcmusU8d9V3/xmkTa40V23Wr43xCez/ZbQ=; Message-ID: <96176.35388.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WtvYkXQVM1nvV4ymAeREx62lof3ySPI_KiRe2jsDqFLpF4Q416lDUEe8Jq.zYy8oAh_o3p2WoZ4c3fmD3u9q6OU2Pf9jDlBTeCJGSF9PKFVTf5BXpatLjc2AVQSmADHhmTjKfVFyQ6Gw_IIf3GtZFzWH53McVxcHvfy7paVNyhGjfyiFkZgHr5O5cQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:09:19 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: EDP problem To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andreas, does it happen also when you press the button with your hand?is there a way to try it with another analog footcontroller?if you are talking about the cheap chinese switch FC-7 that comes with the EDPs find the nearest trash can and dump all your headaches with it! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Andreas Willers wrote: > From: Andreas Willers > Subject: EDP problem > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:23 PM > I have a black Gibson EDP here that doesn't seem to like > my old analog Obie footcontroler. When I press RECORD it > sometimes jumps into PARAMETERS, even causing the unit to > crash. Bad thing is it doesn't happen regularily. > Frontpanel button presses of RECORD worked fine so far. > > Has anyone experienced similar problems? Any hint is > appreciated. > > Thanks, Andreas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 4 23:32:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9C9F3BE89; Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lpxUIxSfCJghY3//tas1cLrRR/yG5RUVTENgQERcoKk=; b=X5YdCpLgtPag6Ahdwn95CH2gXa5DPm3bn5JF2xp7scsDIG1Z7jeFCHrWxyd6db3E3V 0aJKKsfsOAEJ4CpvElA1qjzIiEVx9jWqC5uL/0YkaLbnquOrGZbUj/p87Ti6ptnNxjNg S2YLQxKO8gSeu8b8kY7zZg+gyDxTjGgPitqqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=H5SiXN8tEbUT83palHR24OkyNwkndzKo0D6g5sfd5njgb5FOV0FmyaXyXA9c7tI0K0 eWEplX1q3rH3uzYtQ93N9RW/SJESYbnfqtw7qiZBbq07Trbz8x247ZX+5fr/l1KNIDJW ljGdXVusOHa2cL1YnuUURtkn9UQsv3GiCF854= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001901c99d0b$f75a6f70$030313ac@PIPO> References: <001901c99d0b$f75a6f70$030313ac@PIPO> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:32:13 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 82b970e74ae597c2 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Kaoss Pad + Live midi clock sync issues From: Nick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:32:13 +0000 (UTC) I have version 2.0 installed on the kp3. I use a firebox as my audio interface, so I could buy a midi cable and connect the box midi out to the kp3 if that'd help, but I figured I shouldn't bother since the timing seems pretty good via usb and I was told a midi cable won't increase the accuracy. Sometimes when I quit live, os x loses track of the kp3 as well. I'm not sure if that's related but it's annoying. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Hi Nick, > I have a KP3 here. I know there have been midi sync issues in OS 1.x of the > Kp3. I use version 2.0, mine sync fine but I have not connected it to my > Mac. > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 00:19:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A42F3BE8C; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g6xJLjLPH67+aUiXrQFa/iSY5ftIQ4M8nK7irok8ZuQ=; b=TWnb5NELJHoCy89jJoe2kN36gTy9KYCB3dxkltiqw5JMI5C0jYpocaiBRWxfX74C0y WobdQpEVnr9S8mDiOUDHxA1DbtPNwjpGOGHb68EIzsrUDBfsxX9u9bRx8t1nJvUG1APS s1uc2riRRLQCoPVexoLssm3xMnRi32yeRPJDM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=wEM08Lr/HWeQtrF6Bm6XFtQqEtwB3qGySJhm2jPDMV4VjaE6MokiT6oNmI1EK6I48m IPsp6zYbGX1EShL+1wqXw17SIgiQUGDFoBqqI6hqOU5vcllvmu8jbBaOS1bQkNfficO2 AD+Cg5d2Z5nu+eqgocNmMZB1Iq6RdB0VsAnRo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:19:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:19:33 +0000 (UTC) http://www.apple.com/es/macmini/specs.html -- Raul Bonell at blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 00:37:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60E963BE85; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nWG2hKr6PRT4IEMj1AQNIG2tmwL0WbURbaV4PIayohs=; b=jHRUMdYjX6A8feQnG8noJ5EFSjJtO1Fes4fKTtyByPHXFKYxUYtwjV0IdfTLW02U7Q O6KypRPRFr8kqBhzZhlDeeX80z22+acHmmrIz5a30H3chpeZNTZp5TBLHC2V/+R1nnyI zS6E2XneEw6RTPfMxJZMfZsL/v4MSlzmT1VqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KXplq9XZbUemZrD/9OrpLxOUxU3zArc317NDVOb6geDjPCYLYJ/dB0jeJWdcDknBgg Hxk0VzLPjqQPEtx6Ufe7bKv0DSxOXU1uItS3gQ7XGB5WNLETrq/Ey1Ck6dqbaqI+J4VS E4OVp1MGMFpILb1h/jPBTgSybDuh2gBEXfnFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <871329.62872.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <333287c30903031645j1f999013uc18c9364d78f3e7d@mail.gmail.com> <871329.62872.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 16:37:26 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903041637m39dc1084yd33f300d52953897@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is From: Nevyn Nowhere To: labaloops@yahoo.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd14b025fd9510464545fb3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:37:28 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd14b025fd9510464545fb3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kind of depends on the intent from the forward movement, no? -nn happyhumans.org On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > what about a backward loop,what kind of a story does it tell you? > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Nevyn Nowhere wrote: > > > From: Nevyn Nowhere > > Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 4:45 PM > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anders Bergdahl < > > anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > But what do we mean when we say that an abstract > > instrumental peice of > > > music tells a STORY!! > > > > > > > Prethought is what I mean, and is there any. If there is > > no prethought, and > > it's human response to frequencies then to me, it's > > less a "story" by my > > definition of it... ie it's not something you thought > > out beforehand and > > said "i'm going to present in this specific way > > via these frequencies and > > auditory touchings"... in any degree. It's purely > > taking a base and seeing > > where your current feelings take it. To me, a story is > > something you can > > tell even when you're not FEELING that specific story > > at that specific > > moment. > > > > > > > It can't really, can it? Can there be meaning in > > an improvisation?? > > > > > > > Meaning yes. Story... debatable... but I'm thinking, > > as I define "story", > > no. Can there be "a" story in improv? > > Absolutely... but more a story that > > is found, vs a story that one set down to tell. > > > > > > > > > Is there meaning in a composition? What is the meaning > > with "green onions" > > > or Bethovens 5th or Kind of blue. > > > > > > > You'd have to ask them. 70% of my "abstract" > > music has very specific > > meaning. > > > > > > > A story needs meaning, doesn't it?? > > > > > > > Often. Sometimes it's just wordplay. Which is more > > where I see fully > > improv movements, as a general meaning (there are > > exceptions). > > > > > > > > I wo > > > > > > But WHY do we feel that some music tells a STORY, > > there are no narrative > > > elements, > > > > > > > What do you mean no narrative elements? I think there are > > fully narrative > > elements in non word music. > > > > > > > we clearly mean something else than a story in a book, > > don't we? > > > > > > > Yes, hopefully some of what I'm sharing help s you > > understand where my > > questioning comes from. > > > > -nn > > happyhumans.org > > > > > --000e0cd14b025fd9510464545fb3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kind of depends on the intent from the forward movement, no?
=A0
-nn
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
what about a backward loop,what = kind of a story does it tell you?

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Nevyn Nowhere <nevynnowhere@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nevyn = Nowhere <nevynnowhere@gmail.co= m>
> Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is=
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Tuesday,= March 3, 2009, 4:45 PM
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Anders Bergdahl <=
> anders_e_bergdahl= @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > =A0But what do we mean whe= n we say that an abstract
> instrumental peice of
> > music tells a STORY!!
> ><= br>>
> Prethought is what I mean, and is there any. =A0If there is=
> no prethought, and
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> via these frequencies a= nd
> auditory touchings"... in any degree. =A0It's purely
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> where your current feelings take it. =A0To= me, a story is
> something you can
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> at that specific
> moment.
>
>
> > It can&#= 39;t really, can it? Can there be meaning in
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= > >
>
> Meaning yes. =A0Story... debatable... but I'm= thinking,
> as I define "story",
> no. =A0Can there be "a&quo= t; story in improv?
> Absolutely... but more a story that
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>
>
>
>= ; > Is there meaning in a composition? What is the meaning
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> > or Bethovens 5th or Kind of= blue.
> >
>
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> meaning.
>
>
> > A story needs meaning, doesn't it??
> &= gt;
>
> Often. =A0Sometimes it's just wordplay. =A0Which is= more
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>
> >
> > I wo
> >
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> there are= no narrative
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> >
>
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>
>> > we clearly mean something else than a story in a book,
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> >
>
> Yes, hopefully some of what I'= ;m sharing help s you
> understand where my
> questioning comes from.
>
> -n= n
> happyhumans= .org





--000e0cd14b025fd9510464545fb3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 01:49:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E1FF3BE8A; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <22348.72.51.1236217783.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 21:49:43 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 01:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, Love the sounds you are getting. I was hoping to use my laptop at tomorrows gig but I'm going through driver hell right now. Looks like I'll have to stick to the ole Akai Headrush. This has been my 2nd round with the laptop route, I actually had a decent set up with Cubase and mobius, but I did a hardware upgrade after running into processing constraints. I got a Yamaha audiogram 3 earlier in the week and purchased a license for bidule. What's your setup like? I was hoping to go the Apple route but I got a great price on a dell studio 5137. Any recommendations for a basic audio interface? My Echoplex was stolen last year and I'm really starting to miss it. Thanks, Andre On Wed, March 4, 2009 3:34 am, Michael Peters wrote: > I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's > LOFT > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 02:33:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 449863BE89; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 02:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 18:32:58 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <59bEdB.A.UrC.gnzrJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 02:33:04 +0000 (UTC) MP, I listened to your music this morning as I got ready for work and did=20 my Facebook, MySpace and Twitter routines. Lovely track. Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's=20= > LOFT > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a = short > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 03:12:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B35F93BE8B; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:12:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236222735; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=fNsQ+NznEGMfVDd7qR+b9yZlEu0=; b=KWqU/9pk/VC+MN24ytf8a8uNr82mXTtIT8A+8lXJmkXHpoLdZOdtHdFuMidtjatj 5HbpXznmjec4PfQu9unQd14uGOATAIHHkjBw7KsCj8ai1HfD3IKOPUlZFMfYGo9V; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=H_gOC2LlAAAA:8 a=VNn2JfZ7dqDpuVwBwAQA:9 a=wI4hRf92Go1d4TMbi0k_P56TNxkA:4 a=9XSpoOj3B7kA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=0GXzayXv4hcA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001e01c99d40$2ef75a40$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:12:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:12:15 +0000 (UTC) As usual very nice Michael! I enjoyed it very much. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:34 AM Subject: 21 min improv @ loft >I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's LOFT > together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short > report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 06:09:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D2443BE82; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236233339; bh=BDTguokIKd9OneSsl5rlif8Mxk7UMG4rqOx3vN7mfRE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eitmHDPy9CBniad776dcGNfRqA5ZT+07IKO7ZkB+NSmTWQoCoGfbOBnEcEvVBuhf6A6il3jg7VuCipduDMpS0lsnsUTnijcfFcgaxsZqvvZTtPDBjYNLJwIaU5zTx91ClHFCFGUYcMUGCNIPzZujWo/F2yiLNMHwiI2WXHQnr6A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AMK2MUDtYxtrxQElSm9svYBlks5XJbJ6NuWqnqGz3GQj8MD6rzIbtyKUptKh7/+d2sm74geDteP2wHSgTTOYswapJar7jizy1Jq+oRQkfq3MX2TztEzTtHZ42yVwk9urvtoyHOC+jIoHZFs/6MGljb3YwFYEk0MeXFfc9tgn+sM=; Message-ID: <563270.94763.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: s5oBTsYVM1k3D0Hmp7Bv_tnB_fept46o__uFkrA18chZL7roHDee9H.QcfRV4_0FryuvsRQ1VyplzR4gXaguUE6WXPgWZoi9j0djqzr4FyKtuWwStP8Fa0503zdqQur3RS5adkhMToJQaVIgzyCM4gpukTHGqMAoyPb5MT0OYIqA2krCPJ65lygqs83Q80AUm9uGpXn_TyRiNOlpIwUrEmQjpGrFIIYykiluOENk9c3aKYcq X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 22:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <333287c30903041637m39dc1084yd33f300d52953897@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 06:09:01 +0000 (UTC) yes...forwards is good backwards is evil www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 3/4/09, Nevyn Nowhere wrote: > Kind of depends on the intent from the forward movement, no? > > -nn > happyhumans.org > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, L.Angulo > wrote: > > > what about a backward loop,what kind of a story does > it tell you? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 08:17:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 072453BE80; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-04.arcor-online.net 2DE1A33ABCF DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236241049; bh=ISKdF19uitkvl8fJ2ErOGzkbzwdN7UYsL3GYCzhjDuk=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=nCkGvq9jJ6XzBTrW3rVw1fIy2Uj/qpq96DZmjqHujoxgJ qd6EPJw4So++BhaQM8XoI3ZT1Nv17xAcSIXIP/56CyLN73p8gCdkDMXjzLJqLSjehFs 5FrRaOSjUyt75Ts9DtWaAybBfYLD78OgEOYGYWntcVzMCXpdB/ZBwuadBxU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Re: EDP problem Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:17:28 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Luis wrote: "is there a way to try it with another analog footcontroller? if you are talking about the cheap chinese switch FC-7 that comes with the EDPs find the nearest trash can and dump all your headaches with it!" In defendence of those red plastic switches I must say they come from a high quality Japanese manufacturer. They are fast, lightweight, compact, unexpensive and make practically no switching noise. I tried hard but coundn't find an alternative as far as analog switching goes. They do look like they are originally intended for hand operation and not for foot pedals though. I bought a lot of them to be able to change regulary. Then again: my only serious EDP breakdown on open stage was caused by one of these switches that broke in mid- performance sending a snowstorm of MULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLY MULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLY MULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLY MULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLY MULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLYMULTIPLY to my poor EDP that of course coundn't cope - not too fond memory Anyway, US/CAN guys. If you can try to catch one of these gigs I'll have with my trio GRID MESH from Berlin on the East Coast: March 15: SciFi Philly, Philadelphia March 17: The Stone, NYC March 18: New Thing Productions, Syracuse, NY March 19: Le Cagibi, Montreal March 20: Cube Gallery, Ottawa European hardball improv with loads of granular loopage Berlin release concert of the loop-based "Orange Years" album will be on March 15 at 6 pm at the Jazzwerkstatt Store, Knesebeckstr. 34 A duo jazz gig with looper/vocalist Rudi Neuwirth will be on April 7 at Badenscher Hof, Berlin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 08:20:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 146EE3BE87; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FL2VSRY7XTu7LNrpR0zI+DC2aojfS7P/mNnCK+EYAig=; b=lIsh2kX5W7cA2eBYPKlMgzMLIcxFfNX52M0Ye+QMGqHkirBIH99yQvpN0GzILFScVE gZpvquEfmlbF7nJJGC5h6FVFy/4dK31ejLP4mAiJlrrnvomlJudWSGCRlg09a/vwfSa1 343ro6WULVRjFPs+s1oml51gLYDba+sJOBMFk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VvWugTZiHrzapgjs+S4+BbmVAcIkKW+zPg5TdEq8Jogk+VI14OoPF+ABxyEeUO8bGI NGdLlRgwjEMWywXrE0VcNM9MuhtG2aXwdjmR4APSFFhEdP0OKAMZ/8XE8e94OuTBq4YD AYlgDHYC3QTA0lhTkZ8D1EiAxljsFEWH9Lock= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:19:59 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:20:01 +0000 (UTC) 2009/3/5 Raul Bonell : > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ ...eh, you don't actually mean you bought one? That would be wonderful! I was reading about them yesterday and thinking that this would be a nice touring box for looping, if setting it up with Mobius to use without screen or keyboard. What a compact solution, just this little box! Then I read it has BlueTooth and WireLess so in case you need to chance software settings on the fly you can use an iPhone as the keyboard. Hm, maybe the iPhone can be used as additional looping control surface too. Personally I prefer using hands for physical instruments though, but a singer or a remix oriented prefab loopist could go that route. But five USB2 ports will let you hook up a lot of gear to it anyway. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 08:43:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E05633BE7E; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 161190192/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.53/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQBANwfr0lPToU1/2dsb2JhbAAI13SECAaGYQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,305,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="161190192" Message-ID: <49AF92B0.7080506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 08:52:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: rackmount midi sequencer References: <49A2EAF9.3080702@cruzio.com> <7E2FDF72-70B2-4B02-97FD-B9F4DDA5F708@ubergadget.com> <9ab0c76f0902241552v1da3cf62t4c3a8f12fe907a57@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0902241558k235ad50p9ed2f8f8545bbd1d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0902241620n2ff95977ha40311e56213e5ae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0902250139j29360bc1qdbc43ef3322a9824@mail.gmail.com> <49A553CB.5040103@tiscali.co.uk> <49A55778.5020805@vtx.ch> In-Reply-To: <49A55778.5020805@vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Claude Voit wrote: > yes I _have_ known that !! > edp sys ex is simple, and, If you have (or know where to find) Emagic's > (editor librarian) Sound diver, I have made a EDP sys module you could > use to program your edp and also copy paste all the messages for edp sys > ex sends. but, be aware that audio maybe interrupted if loop is playing > and sync may also drift. > I only used sys to change params with sysex while in reset. > > It works fine but you'll have to dig in sys ex and in the manual, and, > nobody can do it for you if you really want to be a power user... > :=) > > Good luck > Unfortunately the manual thinks "240" is a 2 figure hexadecimal. Any ideas what that means? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 08:57:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 745F53BE80; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 161708971/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.53/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApQBADMir0lPToU1/2dsb2JhbAAI13iECAaGYQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,305,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="161708971" Message-ID: <49AF95D4.2090407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:05:24 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP problem References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Andreas Willers wrote: > Luis wrote: > > "is there a way to try it with another analog footcontroller? if you are > talking about the cheap chinese switch FC-7 that comes with the EDPs > find the nearest trash can and dump all your headaches with it!" > > They do > look like they are originally intended for hand operation and not for > foot pedals though. According to Kim Flint that the switches were selected by trial for quick response time to foot taps. Clunky switches (or those with a long travel before contact ) don't help for rhythmic accuracy. In the early days of EDP, the switches didn't have much problem. I have 2 FC7s which functioned perfectly (well, almost) before going into storage, but 5 years later they don't work reliably, so I guess that the contacts oxidise eventually. The FC7 is designed so that it can be connected with a simple guitar lead, which is a nice touch, but unfortunately this design also makes the response dependent on there being no contact resistance in the switches, even momentarily. That's why it's common for the FC7 to have switches which call up unexpected functions. So, it's a matter of replacing the switches, perhaps even regularly, for reliability. Some folks have reported that regular cleaning helps too. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 09:50:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F6EF3BE73; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49AFA287.5040704@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:59:35 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > 2009/3/5 Raul Bonell : > >>http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > > > ...eh, you don't actually mean you bought one? That would be wonderful! > > I was reading about them yesterday and thinking that this would be a > nice touring box for looping, if setting it up with Mobius to use > without screen or keyboard. What a compact solution, just this little > box! > > Then I read it has BlueTooth and WireLess so in case you need to > chance software settings on the fly you can use an iPhone as the > keyboard. Hm, maybe the iPhone can be used as additional looping > control surface too. Personally I prefer using hands for physical > instruments though, but a singer or a remix oriented prefab loopist > could go that route. But five USB2 ports will let you hook up a lot of > gear to it anyway. > > Per Yup, looks interesting. Still find 4GB ram a limitation, though. Per, I wonder if Samsung's dirt cheap iPhone/Pod killer (a friends statement, don't remember the model, will poke) will work for this too, don't see why not. FW800.. for desktop music editing actually pretty useful: . connect a FW800 switch to which 3x 2½" drives are conected: . one for audio apps . one for soundfonts . one for the projects . use an RME fireface800 interface -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 10:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA6BB3BE7E; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rKCXBIUwRAbvsQNDFhDOqBBPooIMUTh8ZCrJUCIi0Yk=; b=aunaROC+LV3T+AVPRDZONKtU07aBvqD3SdM5pTvMg2522jeECPTCYPHSov6Zgy+kfF hPoQrrrIOD7tbK/TriONXwHz5EKM0MThPFrQpRz553UoSvikFjjTuw8YQDD1ASKk0tn9 kTzggs7Py/JUrHgYZvmycp6/ihKmXZiDr12A8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=mhErYv1DD8TaaiiZoFs1pbirhlOH0ZN2BEOEKuBv11OjWA0jnxny99wSgPwLz7OKoO Kp5EM25ckYtYrJdR7rVy/cUbzbn37y6nLWM3nG9+l2YeptnxhmhGoVa1vZ+WLUUilXB/ bm/WcCaR+oNGMxRtViBTDGCoLPmh3IjWhT4lA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <49AFA287.5040704@post.cybercity.dk> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <49AFA287.5040704@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:56:09 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 783126741ac169d3 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903050256l672b4fc8q3eb6d9026b98e45@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d460a70c8e9904645d0460 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:56:10 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d460a70c8e9904645d0460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Yup, looks interesting. Still find 4GB ram a limitation, though. A limitation??? For what??? Audio?? surely not... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --0016e6d460a70c8e9904645d0460 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yup, looks interesting. Still find 4GB ram a limitation, though.


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--0016e6d460a70c8e9904645d0460-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 11:02:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1B563BE78; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wAoJLKAWurSDyDsnlDRcgQJXudHLxnQiBn+1Y/Uwe0I=; b=vOajb2T5VF7xMUmBk/nUx3tYAvgUspUNccvDHd5/1XYImYSgWcXjh4Hqrx5rjLiR8+ 79UONtaCBLfROuW51joaN81TaSOfNrGx8VCa6itEBVi+VdSn6T866CS7vXq964CCwBjK 7KQCn1JuoCz85aj+T4F3/LhltJZgBzJ3jNlwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NIraprpLcxUYu60i4uk555HiwELTOEciUnonG/K9iILWlqVLDi7W1kYwHz/KayNpMR 2T7WUeG/BVJ5g9DxJue/KENwkITUPHYojElRx15FybYfpvMDjy7h6uPY8m6B2LWqCGMF 7Mmv5cWLUu7gD42bFGUqusNgy18WE2ZFP6dh4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903050256l672b4fc8q3eb6d9026b98e45@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <49AFA287.5040704@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903050256l672b4fc8q3eb6d9026b98e45@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:02:51 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903050302y5f7150ay30c890cde571ef4f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5qxIcD.A.S9D.bF7rJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:02:51 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM, mark francombe wrote: >> Yup, looks interesting. Still find 4GB ram a limitation, though. > > A limitation??? For what??? Audio?? surely not... Maybe because "more is better".... ;-) Just kidding. HOwever - seriously, 4 GB RAM can be a limitation if you are producing sampler RAM heavy music. Typically such music is soundtracks and gaming music where you use huge symphonic orchestra sampler libraries where every damn note is sampled at a very long time (needed for some orchestra stuff expression playing). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 11:05:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 110FE3BE7C; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:05:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "eterogeneo" To: Subject: New Robin Guthrie CD collaboration Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:05:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0121_01C99D8A.9D1F6D60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:05:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01C99D8A.9D1F6D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those who likes Robin Guthrie sound, here is an announcement about a = new CD collaboration. http://www.townsend-records.co.uk/product.php?pId=3D10003325&pType=3D1 Fabio=20 www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ------=_NextPart_000_0121_01C99D8A.9D1F6D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those who likes = Robin Guthrie=20 sound, here is an announcement about a new CD = collaboration.
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--- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 11:19:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E9163BE82; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FgZvsQF0LL0pNmRS3DFZjhqdVig7HKYFMBMnx9Q7wJM=; b=qWthlEI3ZU7FPGoinrOzc0z4yAjrzIcIOTQNwV5qz2QbKxWsNVLc6HOHo7xH2KeM0N h9cS6Yvc+YFvSIAT9r/SY7U9dbkH4y9B/hmgG+Ny1lxaxyVty5pn/LqurBMyOTtJCKY+ C8fOxtrWtBwFxp+VR2bWh+wkicDJVNbqrGR1E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EERcKE0MueXy8AWCtdAnzK2uWy80xVak7vFi0sHnn0vwUSOoL2MkDpR5dnC3ayr/2B oeMH51XvP+Y4YawUzr3D0S7PWsDuqkpCXw7WakeQIlmC3H5kgPZLiSMaB2djCGiQwN5l D4fMzJiOS7x5O0zRft9jv884NR3z+fTK46kdY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:19:35 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903050319x26d162bcia220e2ade974022b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: New Robin Guthrie CD collaboration From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:19:36 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:05 PM, eterogeneo wrote: > For those who likes Robin Guthrie sound, here is an announcement about a new > CD collaboration. > http://www.townsend-records.co.uk/product.php?pId=10003325&pType=1 Thanks, Fabio - I didn't know about that. Being a Robin Guthrie fan way back since -82 I will definitely check this one out on release date May 4. The band ISIS is releasing a new album the day after, BTW. Also a great band; doing sort of "Ambient Metal". I just heard a preview of "Wavering Radiant" and like it a lot. How awesome that "the record business is dying" so real people can keep on making real music again! There has been to much "radio edits", "maximized mastering", "hyped marketing" etc over the last decades and it hasn't done good for the music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 11:33:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0E243BE7E; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49AFB770.4070509@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:28:48 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Afterglow Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:33:30 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5 every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 13:14:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B1E53BE72; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 158344478/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.53/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgBAOder0lPToU1/2dsb2JhbAAI2RSECAaGbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,307,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="158344478" Message-ID: <49AFD233.7080701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:22:59 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: rackmount midi sequencer References: <49A2EAF9.3080702@cruzio.com> <7E2FDF72-70B2-4B02-97FD-B9F4DDA5F708@ubergadget.com> <9ab0c76f0902241552v1da3cf62t4c3a8f12fe907a57@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0902241558k235ad50p9ed2f8f8545bbd1d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0902241620n2ff95977ha40311e56213e5ae@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0902250139j29360bc1qdbc43ef3322a9824@mail.gmail.com> <49A553CB.5040103@tiscali.co.uk> <49A55778.5020805@vtx.ch> <49AF92B0.7080506@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49AF92B0.7080506@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:14:37 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > > > Claude Voit wrote: >> It works fine but you'll have to dig in sys ex and in the manual, and, >> nobody can do it for you if you really want to be a power user... >> :=) >> >> Good luck >> > > Unfortunately the manual thinks "240" is a 2 figure hexadecimal. > > Any ideas what that means? > > andy > > all sussed now, most of the EDP sysex *is* in the manual somewhere. If anyone's interested I'll do an EDP sysex HowTo, which would make it very easy for edp user with a suitable controller to change the params. Would open up some possibilities for changing how any number of linked EDPs would respond to MIDI, for instance, I'll use it so I can either use 2 edps as stereo pair, or control just one. Would also allow you to change params like quantise. ..and maybe some mysterious function I didn't find yet. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 13:16:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D65C3BE80; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7235E8C2-EF35-42A4-AE77-DD2BFFA65678@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:16:14 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:16:58 +0000 (UTC) [Per] > Hm, maybe the iPhone can be used as additional looping > control surface too. Yes it can. I've been playing with this and it works well. http://hexler.net/touchosc To use it on Mac you also need OSCulator. There is a link on this page that describes how to use Touch OSC and OSCulator to control Ableton. The same technique works for Mobius. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 13:36:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83EE63BE80; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:04:35 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT: 1st March [les trolls Japan tour 2009 in Kobe] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:36:40 +0000 (UTC) At 2:30 AM +0900 2/25/09, Sunao Inami wrote: > >[les trolls Japan tour 2009 in Kobe] > >1st Sun. March @ Katakamuna,Kobe > >[ACTS].... > >Sunao Inami (electr-ohm) >http://www.electr-ohm.com Just wanted to drop a quick note on this one: my family and I were travelling back from Osaka on Sunday, and made a stopover in Kobe so I could catch the show.... Sunao turned in an *awesome* hard-electro set opening up for the tour. It's easy to see why he has the reputation as being the "kingpin" of the Kobe scene. It was a great set! I believe Sunao might also have some European tour dates coming up soon. If you get a chance, definitely try to make one of his shows. You'll have a blast. :) --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 14:10:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D3343BE77; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 936800.52091.bm@omp102.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=vEShU0Tum9yc7N11wOpv+HYmvdgUfwOSq8raTKuJOlcUi9lxlwt7hB6sX6GCOy95UoCNLo5fQoqZzCp6jBTDQvG0caFtz+2hZnTCzjY0dfonKi1y4j1EJuallKdoCQlPA2VtW1Jafr4n5mDR2rPCPBt79QaXAKYfBw2eO1jOhGU= ; X-YMail-OSG: L62UB.sVM1kzH5adkwCRZWKSTvanCHSh.fBRKuB2t7oNIU0xyNZHmu8INxW65ndT8.e15BiYmhEqmoC21xKJBSovGO89o3V6zpKTqvZyzdzOMYF4jhTdG5i6hMkZV7jjo8RZAFykaJCBXSpw5n22NM2bmEmuKS6uXSSJaA6x3XfvIdyJmOpSqJRU7LSfVA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "murkie" To: References: Subject: RE: New Book... "State of the Axe" Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:10:50 -0500 Message-ID: <02E339FA6F5147CDA2079EABFA7EBCDE@middlebury.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99D72.4821D860" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmbhxJ/SRcIIastSvKH/slTQK1BQACE/5Ww Resent-Message-ID: <8vi8YC.A.3WC.s19rJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:10:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99D72.4821D860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Chuck for the heads up. m.c. Mark Christensen http://www.twistedapplerecords.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stone-Document/47030826836 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99D72.4821D860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: New Book... "State of the Axe"
Thanks = Chuck for the=20 heads up.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C99D72.4821D860-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 14:17:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 794A53BE81; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <22348.72.51.1236217783.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:17:27 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c99d9d$1d407680$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmdnGUoGYt/Ef6cRcSZvfntxiQcfwAAB6sg In-Reply-To: <22348.72.51.1236217783.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:17:30 +0000 (UTC) hi Andre, > What's your setup like? I was hoping to go the Apple route but I got a great price on a dell studio 5137. Any recommendations for a basic audio interface? I use a Sony Vaio with MS Vista - for the interface, I use an Edirol UA-1EX, that's as basic as you can get, but it works well. And I use Bidule and various plugins. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 14:53:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98B0B3BE81; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-03.arcor-online.net 8B51C2C2F45 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236264821; bh=aZ6Ub0MQTXymTrzlPPPTuf3aEccuzNfVaSy4TQ4SeEU=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=VpFN++yiWN0UwAGAtOdMF+0crMBrfdW/AnBvRnmpE54d1 4fT9jXyvmkHP/jBe7BdBAIuLFuPEXejlNO26tF9ivsD4xib6eall3P1KeutPYsUXMdv tGZENXcU9bqcxR0pSAm4pPjLbPUfLT1fntQ/pJ3qf/uxtP0jtqf5+SSlzi4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Re: Re: EDP problem Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:53:39 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9072/Thu Mar 5 11:45:26 2009 on mail-in-03.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:53:43 +0000 (UTC) "Berlin release concert of the loop-based "Orange Years" album will be on March 15 at 6 pm at the Jazzwerkstatt Store, Knesebeckstr. 34" sorry, this schould be March 25. on the 15 I'm in Philly From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 14:54:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4E443BE85; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 161919829/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.133.53/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.133.53 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqgBAJR2r0lPToU1/2dsb2JhbAAI2RWECAaGbA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,307,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="161919829" Message-ID: <49AFE9A1.1090705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:02:57 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: 1st March [les trolls Japan tour 2009 in Kobe] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:54:35 +0000 (UTC) Mech wrote: > At 2:30 AM +0900 2/25/09, Sunao Inami wrote: >> Sunao Inami (electr-ohm) >> http://www.electr-ohm.com > > hard-electro set :-) which for us non-genre compatible guys means? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 16:07:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22B953BE84; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236269230; bh=h0tTsJohwAoUiAVHGshoodRtneCPt9c7r9qcv8WWzwo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZtRAooooils5Q7KFawIQpUOSlMcQNuPR1VW7d/yU7aJUKhnkCuYaPHbVFxDlJPRy/0V2SeyrvG96J0lMoZBH0dKUQ3vI4UPa02HuaEkyhCKJ3VNOdCZQjZwF3uWse8ofKe09vhtpoZkwvayhXC2IlJ6KO55phGAbH6xpE6RuENg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QirbPjuHS3prTRKpqvhC62tRYtj4lHU0HxYMhAIcRtUO8T5lrO73QUoVQIBb1TNcSG3KYbGFbq4N+Suzax0UmdGjAp49V6+dNLL/EFepLlKxSU9wLi8ixmNIIgnwvBWldLCVMHYsnKCA3khFlVps2QCA3lrKxPTAozw9CJPALKs=; Message-ID: <150433.38337.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AqHnxIoVM1nBm37jjnGUqNufydZO2KwhW.Otw2JjtIfM8k2clQ08guSEc5EHNL5eGKjaEktk4pjhGKLbgXdzJqNpsRCtQXy.Wrw3ccj6Sf4gErTkRBkYNM3yu0o.x.TTHf49UhySrwBKCtfpEsoj1obcjp8kWA.WSZ91VU6Y3DpWKAyoKvQnhSFH1Wp85V9L0h4OAEX1gNL.x_bKaBxXbchjbyrf7wZmB_LX898- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 08:07:09 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001c99d9d$1d407680$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Hey Michael, you mentioned that you are trying out the new beta EDP software,is there a way to download it and try it yet? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Michael Peters wrote: > From: Michael Peters > Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft > To: "Loopers Delight" > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 6:17 AM > hi Andre, > > > What's your setup like? I was hoping to go the > Apple route but I got a > great price on a dell studio 5137. Any recommendations for > a basic audio > interface? > > I use a Sony Vaio with MS Vista - for the interface, I use > an Edirol UA-1EX, > that's as basic as you can get, but it works well. And > I use Bidule and > various plugins. > > -Michael From info@nokia.com Thu Mar 5 16:29:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 7282 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 16:29:09 UTC Received: from gsmtp201.iwayafrica.com (gsmtp201.iwayafrica.com [62.128.175.31]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E5A3BE78; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37724) by gsmtp201.iwayafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfGKm-0004Xd-JU; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:22:08 +0100 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at iwayafrica.com Received: from gsmtp201.iwayafrica.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gsmtp201.iwayafrica.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5M-A3z0hUoSU; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:22:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from germ11.iwayafrica.com ([62.128.175.19]:52994 helo=pop.iwayafrica.com) by gsmtp201.iwayafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LfGKl-0004XJ-Qp; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:22:07 +0100 Received: from www by pop.iwayafrica.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1LfDaG-000Iss-3N; Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:25:56 +0100 Received: from 196.207.142.85 (SquirrelMail authenticated user kinapa) by pop.iwayafrica.com with HTTP; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:25:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1738.196.207.142.85.1236259556.squirrel@pop.iwayafrica.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:25:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: Mr. Alex Rogers From: "NOKIA GLOBAL LOTTERY" Reply-To: nokiadavidcolenokia2009@hotmail.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-6.el3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; NOKIA GLOBAL LOTTERY 2009 !!! 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For your claims you are to contact the dispatch officer via email with the following information below: Name: Mr. David Cole email: nokiadavidcolenokia2009@hotmail.com fill the following information for claims Names: Country: Address: Age: Fax Number: Office Number: Occupation: Sex: Personal Number: Regards, Mr.Alex Rogers From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 16:32:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 130553BE82; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=oW6hqRvFMKxp/jG/N8MS55bJad1reQOMwHgqOAnzgP1r7jlqC3jfVb26iaS0IMe8; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <02E339FA6F5147CDA2079EABFA7EBCDE@middlebury.edu> References: <02E339FA6F5147CDA2079EABFA7EBCDE@middlebury.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:31:29 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: RE: New Book... "State of the Axe" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-975851805==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79880c93f5a83e5e57257cbea28a07e048350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:32:10 +0000 (UTC) --============_-975851805==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Each artist featured in that book wrote a piece specifically for the project describing what the guitar means to them.... It's fascinating, 81 guitarists....!! Derek Bailey, Vernon Reid, Jef Lee Johnson, Brandon Ross, Andy Summers, Bill Frisell, Arto Lindsay, Rhys Chatham, John McLaughlin, Scofield, Jim Hall, Holdsworth, Marc Ribot, David Torn....... the book has s0 much depth... >Thanks Chuck for the heads up. > >m.c. > >Mark Christensen >http://www.twistedapplerecords.com >http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stone-Document/47030826836 -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-975851805==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" RE: New Book... "State of the Axe"
Each artist featured in that book  wrote a piece specifically for the project  describing what the guitar means to them....

It's fascinating,  81 guitarists....!!

 Derek Bailey,  Vernon Reid,  Jef Lee Johnson, Brandon Ross, Andy Summers,  Bill Frisell, Arto Lindsay, Rhys Chatham, John McLaughlin, Scofield, Jim Hall, Holdsworth, Marc Ribot, David Torn....... the book has  s0 much depth...



Thanks Chuck for the heads up.
 
m.c.
 
Mark Christensen
http://www.twistedapplerecords.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stone-Document/47030826836


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http://www.zmix.net
--============_-975851805==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 17:58:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3365E3BE82; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <29211.72.51.1236275911.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <000001c99d9d$1d407680$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <22348.72.51.1236217783.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <000001c99d9d$1d407680$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:58:31 -0400 (AST) Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Hey Michael, Basic's just what I'm looking for. Thanks, Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Thu, March 5, 2009 10:17 am, Michael Peters wrote: > hi Andre, > >> What's your setup like? I was hoping to go the Apple route but I got a > great price on a dell studio 5137. Any recommendations for a basic audio > interface? > > I use a Sony Vaio with MS Vista - for the interface, I use an Edirol > UA-1EX, > that's as basic as you can get, but it works well. And I use Bidule and > various plugins. > > -Michael > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 20:42:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94AA93BE81; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mike Crain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-280478685 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: RE: 21 min improv @ loft Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:41:56 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1HmqJD.A.2HH.YkDsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:42:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-280478685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great stuff, Michael! Thanks for sharing the blog and all. Cheers! Mike Crain Percussionist/Composer Sacramento, CA 95818 mike@mikecrain.com http://www.mikecrain.com http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by the partials will represent an appreciable contribution." - Edgard Varese --Apple-Mail-6-280478685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great stuff, Michael! Thanks = for sharing the blog and = all.

Cheers!


Mike Crain
Percussionist/Composer
Sacramento, CA = 95818
mike@mikecrain.com
Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be = revealed
will represent = an appreciable = contribution.  



= --Apple-Mail-6-280478685-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 22:35:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FB9F3BE80; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49B052A7.1060400@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 17:31:03 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:35:48 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on UK synthesist Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Three Dreams" by Ian Boddy on DiN Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#feb Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm EST/GMT-5/ITZ-5 on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 5 23:40:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B3353BE80; Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y/w+PuwZgjRVxe3Jx8nJg0pQmmg5G28soW71dnCoudM=; b=okAdBgagrjj0zN0VCd6dVofJoaEg87tN67Sq+KVOcnagLRUz2lNFCqprTzUKyZM6Gx TbnDV9RD1x1oODORuKjou5v7kyExjx3KUI5ppvP8kkkWiMXhYDYK0bt1RQAv6IevqLiK Al/njnmbBMwu+hFVXZ3HZm+IYYJ9bDuLNZTks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DHgQhjPdaGp7gszvrH8kUAUL48MxZ1rCQKd5CzIntGUnlRlVKJELFxOmRrWIrpypSa z5l43qO/NjfMX3w0T2SM5xgNZpfXSYiKTQTFWmVUgserqCoE5KgfCSFjF9/VgTEkzpzL LSjOUjHlLB37fCPmNKkux3FSzFY3hg35gse9A= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49AF95D4.2090407@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49AF95D4.2090407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:40:38 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP problem From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 23:40:40 +0000 (UTC) You can troubleshoot the footswitch by connecting a multimeter and reading the resistance values of each switch. The values are in the archives and on the LD site. Cleaning can help, but yes, eventually they need to be replaced. They are cheap and available from Mouser (and others). That info is also archived/on the site. What you want to see are steady resistance values when you depress a switch. If it jumps around, the EDP gets confused. Dirty or worn switches will do this, and you'll probably note that it happens to the most commonly used switches--Record, Overdub, Next, etc. Or, you can buy an FCB. However, it's switches eventually fail also. I'm not sure that I've seen an easy fix for that. TH On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:05 AM, andy butler wrote: > > According to Kim Flint that the switches were selected by trial for quick > response time > to foot taps. Clunky switches (or those with a long travel before contact ) > don't > help for rhythmic accuracy. > In the early days of EDP, the switches didn't have much problem. > I have 2 FC7s which functioned perfectly (well, almost) before going into > storage, > but 5 years later they don't work reliably, so I guess that the contacts > oxidise eventually. The FC7 is designed so that it can be connected with a > simple guitar lead, > which is a nice touch, but unfortunately this design also makes the response > dependent on there being no contact resistance in the switches, even > momentarily. > That's why it's common for the FC7 to have switches which call up unexpected > functions. > > So, it's a matter of replacing the switches, perhaps even regularly, for > reliability. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 00:00:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 774913BE79; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <49AF95D4.2090407@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: FT: brand new LP1 for used MacBook Pro Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 15:59:56 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Hope this isn't in violation of this list. I'm in need of a MacBook Pro for a work project that I'm starting fairly soon. If you have an old one that you aren't using, I'm willing to trade you a brand-new Looperlative LP1 for it. Of course, it will carry the same warranty just as if you purchased it from me. Contact me via email or telephone the Looperlative phone number 408-921-LOOP. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 00:30:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D446C3BE79; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hnmQAugptYbBwoNKDPL1k6B6Mx30YH8/L5F2mRL57Y4=; b=c5ktPqli8CIOfFa1qFo3QyoZhkAHVsVvKS7Hj3HU0zdtG7hW/jQGOOGySZTdnqZ4UQ Ezdrtj4d9u9XmgfiriI/Qeqe9Q9dpLW6zmsrXAWszXv4z/7PKXYnp9SXAbv7gVakvDch eVMSsNHS4SO0s2+2InOoEiB4+/bgjeVrIggho= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SrfVfVB75Z68G8efpLhUdB+FCxh3anl/TA45QjiBdUBatcQ3FC3t2vtykawxU0cBM9 XZ7/wMBdj9MRGSFHB/Q04/GzFv80n5scRvcZAflOed8gCfiYAwKU+s5JVkRXrXBAkYFt gHdJoqP2KdjFVKLAdHS8DL5Q4xKk6hnxJ6orU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:29:59 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> Subject: how do you loop? From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b96d88a0ae04646862ec Resent-Message-ID: <3oJ94.A.j-D.I6GsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:30:00 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0b96d88a0ae04646862ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sure this has been asked many times throughout the existence of this list; I've even seen a couple folks talk of such things recently, but not a thread devoted to it. So I, and probably others, wonder: How do you loop? What is your ideal setup and process, and what is your usual setup and process? Whether you use hardware/software/a mix of both (ok, I'm slanted, I'm always more curious about the last, since that is how I like to go, but I'm curious about it all, as from time to time I do the other options as well), I'd like to know your live process. Yes, I should specify, this about LIVE setups/processes, etc. Looking forward to hearing how we all do our thing! -nn happyhumans.org PS: Feel free to reply offlist, but I'd also like 2-3 suggestion from anyone and everyone on the list of music/musicians/etc that I simply must listen to. Your absolute favorite 2-3 (and yes I know there is always a time and place, but let's look overall). I crave new input, but not an overload of! --001636e0b96d88a0ae04646862ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm sure this has been asked many times throughout the existence o= f this list; I've even seen a couple folks talk of such things recently= , but not a thread devoted to it.
=A0
So I, and probably others, wonder:
=A0
How do you loop?=A0 What is your ideal setup and process, and what is = your usual setup and process?=A0 Whether you use hardware/software/a mix of= both (ok, I'm slanted, I'm always more curious about the last, sin= ce that is how I like to go, but I'm curious about it all, as from time= to time I do the other options as well), I'd like to know your live pr= ocess.
=A0
Yes, I should specify, this about LIVE setups/processes, etc.
=A0
Looking forward to hearing how we all do our thing!
=A0
-nn
=A0
PS: Feel free to reply offlist, but I'd also like 2-3 suggestion f= rom anyone and everyone on the list of music/musicians/etc that I simply mu= st listen to.=A0 Your absolute favorite 2-3 (and yes I know there is always= a time and place, but let's look overall).=A0 I crave new input, but n= ot an overload of!
--001636e0b96d88a0ae04646862ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 01:40:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BF423BE7F; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8eefbaf5-64f6-4fba-a6be-6198e4f12787_" X-Originating-IP: [71.146.11.151] From: samba - To: Subject: Stories Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:40:36 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090305141052.EA4223BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090305141052.EA4223BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2009 01:40:36.0810 (UTC) FILETIME=[8C4F5AA0:01C99DFC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:40:38 +0000 (UTC) --_8eefbaf5-64f6-4fba-a6be-6198e4f12787_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see no reason to assume the stories that come through =2Cor are projecte= d onto music are those of the musicans playing. Prethought or not.=20 --_8eefbaf5-64f6-4fba-a6be-6198e4f12787_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3BI see no reason to assume the stories that come through =2Cor are p= rojected onto music are those of the musicans playing. Prethought or not. <= br> = --_8eefbaf5-64f6-4fba-a6be-6198e4f12787_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 03:07:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1299D3BE80; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HR7liIrY3f3Z3wieZ4iHM80CZ3M2sEilUiDi+dVmbbE=; b=eHw8v7wFEts5wo2M5UtUxA2PXOqTuBcsA/3Tui8JybugENOlyEWV6sa5WTr2O8mAJu +t8III5CMTr0+1Iy0mLOE0GN1yuXVxwhRhDCrzNzT4TQb4rIbx9S9+1qakIgoNfLpws6 AaVkj222NdlxPVQtvEl6EgZ+zDI6BVwLcXjg4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bTbu5ls/3RrTt/rOIN3heSZL4KhC8IEKleF0h/nJx8u1D+svGOY3kCsNhNMLh2Er46 Te7tJ29xmEXeuy/EG1wwI0UJ43IFwwg/Rl/CPCN+CJa1/9YS08tSan7hcitvA04BL6sJ V+lbBgj1GqfiflApU3IZTlgh8qc3dpAaC/jxk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <20090305141052.EA4223BE82@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 19:07:17 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903051907q5ad13393n790c60c1f355110a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stories From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1fa8d19198e04646a9539 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:07:18 +0000 (UTC) --001636e1fa8d19198e04646a9539 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is your reasoning for seeing? How does that not apply to you? How do you feel it doesn't apply to others? I see no reason to assume either, but I do see reason to see that such might happen, and am more asking about folks who feel that happen.... and what/why makes them feel that. Learning about the approaches of others is fun, even if they are not what you do. -nn happyhumans.org On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:40 PM, samba - wrote: > I see no reason to assume the stories that come through ,or are projected > onto music are those of the musicans playing. Prethought or not. > --001636e1fa8d19198e04646a9539 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What is your reasoning for seeing?=A0 How does that not apply to you? = How do you feel it doesn't apply to others?
=A0
I see no reason to assume either, but I do see reason to see that such= might happen, and am more asking about folks who feel that happen.... and = what/why makes them feel that.=A0 Learning about the approaches of others i= s fun, even if they are not what you do.
=A0
-nn
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 5:40 PM, samba - <sambacomet@hotmail.= com> wrote:
=A0I see no reason to assume the stories that come through ,or are pro= jected onto music are those of the musicans playing. Prethought or not.

--001636e1fa8d19198e04646a9539-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 08:33:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0702C3BE7E; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xLoLqu3AqV2voYefP4iNa0XWsOP94x3puXg0SNBnWrQ=; b=HHbkCbEi1ObiPS+rUPXO4fu+Jiz6m8fzzc75Qx66MbE4g7pLYrmZF1bHCkfNcC63VC V7u7DrCuE3qJpcL/TVhJjI0ZzpeFcw8zrchaGzP8LY75dBPNSKmS8dwpfGF3jFDlt2jF zfCB69Ie/IpPFpH9vW7q9u1FrfLbWLaq4dCwo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JzxOdAW8oza98A0/fGvLNG0qoF+JELQXBizfDIQnORyZjuJ+vdHVHNwDUuxqZkZxH0 bci19xRrnO14EW1k1udqTt24c7Zi1ZoWUn3CZxl20p5OocNtkhRrbnmfu/vbYb+jHOty JQPhKikF2y+etfy2k23a3zTlUSrHUj0Xx1+1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:33:23 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903060033k5bd0e0a2gbd8ac7fee479e28@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you loop? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_VogZD.A.DvH.T_NsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:33:23 +0000 (UTC) I use a laptop and a bunch of acoustic hardware instruments. I don't go for the full band sound thing but try to perform each tune on just one instrument and use different looping techniques to make that instrument sound in different ways for orchestrating and arranging. Rarely I run more that five loops in parallel (but then four go together as a "rhythm kit"), simultaneously sounding, usually just one or two and layering musical parts. I use two main concepts for chord vamps: One is to simply create many alternative loops (cued up on the same looper track) where each loop means a unique chord. The other way is to record a major or minor chord drone in one loop and then speed/pitch shit that loop into the chord I need at different moments of the music. Software: Apple MainStage, SoundToys Native Bundle, Mobius AU (looper as temp sync master). Music i listen to: I can't get enough of Prodigy's "Invaders Must Die" nor "Cartography" by Arve Henriksen. Oh, and a preview of Isis upcoming album "Wavering Radiant" made a great impression. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 08:35:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D3803BE7F; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-15.arcor-online.net 4FAE035EC7B DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236328557; bh=xeEt3PUhbe/K0/Ftu5RLx2t3YsO6AELkf6yB1hkA/wA=; h=Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date; b=VOov DD5h0fpOZkMkQcn5rnXqlCxiO5lQspCXdqNV/rQUxETGbiUlm1fz4crE8AdscUbxY1f QECVDhFD2lVYppAzULx0v+N545RNd1VIJo2SxKGwblrd1zLgHrl6Gsstyn1FAraLrh6 boLjElmzlXeF6kv5ATLHIgXjjW+eKtUWU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-323318471 From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Re: EDP problem / new Midi controllers? Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:35:56 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9077/Fri Mar 6 03:48:57 2009 on mail-in-15.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:35:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-323318471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Travis wrote: "You can troubleshoot the footswitch by connecting a multimeter and reading the resistance values of each switch. The values are in the archives and on the LD site. Cleaning can help, but yes, eventually they need to be replaced. They are cheap and available from Mouser (and others). That info is also archived/on the site. What you want to see are steady resistance values when you depress a switch. If it jumps around, the EDP gets confused. Dirty or worn switches will do this, and you'll probably note that it happens to the most commonly used switches--Record, Overdub, Next, etc." Good hint. I bought new switches cheap at neuhold-elektronik.at in Austria and keep a stash of them at hand. In this case my old footcontroller worked fine with the Obie EDP but not with the newer BF Gibson. Also I had these problems in my first three sessions with the Gibson. BUT: after my call for advice I keep powering it up four or more time per day, try to provoke the bug - and it just works fine. I'm puzzled but start to think it will be alright now. Travis wrote: "Or, you can buy an FCB. However, it's switches eventually fail also. I'm not sure that I've seen an easy fix for that." I wish there was a compact, reliable, lightweight Midi solution for this. No clumsy Behringer stuff for me, please! I use a combination of the analog footcontroller and a Kenton Spin Doctor (velcroed on top of the EDP) for Midi # control of Halfspeed etc. Any new controllers on the market? I am fascinated by that bring-a-Mini-Mac- and-controll-it-with-your-IPhone thing! --Apple-Mail-1-323318471 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Travis wrote: "You can troubleshoot the footswitch by = connecting a multimeter and
reading the resistance = values of each switch.=A0 The values are in the
archives and on the LD site.=A0 Cleaning can help, but = yes, eventually
they need to be replaced.=A0 = They are cheap and available from Mouser
(and others).=A0 That info is also archived/on the = site.

What you want to see are steady resistance values when = you depress a
switch.=A0 If it jumps = around, the EDP gets confused.=A0 Dirty or worn
switches will do this, and you'll probably note that = it happens to the
most commonly used = switches--Record, Overdub, Next, etc."

Good hint. I bought new = switches cheap at neuhold-elektronik.at in Austria and keep a stash of = them at hand. In this case my old footcontroller worked fine with the = Obie EDP but not with the newer BF Gibson. Also I had these problems in = my first three sessions with the Gibson. BUT: after my call for advice I = keep powering it up four or more time per day, try to provoke the bug - = and it just works fine. I'm puzzled but start to think it will be = alright now.

Travis wrote: "Or, you can buy an FCB.=A0 However, = it's switches eventually fail also.
I'm not sure that I've seen = an easy fix for that."

I wish there was a compact, = reliable, lightweight Midi solution for this. No clumsy Behringer stuff = for me, please! I use a combination of the analog footcontroller and a = Kenton Spin Doctor (velcroed on top of the EDP) for Midi # control of = Halfspeed etc. Any new controllers on the market? I am fascinated by = that bring-a-Mini-Mac-and-controll-it-with-your-IPhone = thing!
= --Apple-Mail-1-323318471-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 09:21:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C9093BE82; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003801c99e3c$f8fb3990$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you loop? Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:21:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:21:34 +0000 (UTC) For solo looping I have recently started using software for looping and processing (Mobius, Audiomulch, various vsts). Playing in groups, or for solo gigs where looping is only a small part of the performance, I use hardware (DL4, various effects). I first started using looping some years ago to build up drones/atmospheres/soundscapes, but more recently I do a certain amount of melodic/harmonic/rhythmic looping, as the mood takes me. My main instruments for live looping are guitar and cello. Almost all of the music I play is improvised. With Mobius I use between two and four tracks, not synchronised. If I want synchronised layers of the same length I do that all in one track, the same as I would with the dL4. I have never tried looping synchronised to other players and the idea of it fills me with horror. I may have a go at it one day though, just as am experiment to see what happens. Three things you simply must listen to if you never have: Jon Rose and Veryan Weston - Temperament Giacinto Scelsi - The Complete Works for Clarinet Crass - Penis Envy Steve Steve Moyes www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.creativemusic.blip.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: Nevyn Nowhere Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 12:29 AM Subject: how do you loop? How do you loop? What is your ideal setup and process, and what is your usual setup and process? Whether you use hardware/software/a mix of both (ok, I'm slanted, I'm always more curious about the last, since that is how I like to go, but I'm curious about it all, as from time to time I do the other options as well), I'd like to know your live process. PS: 2-3 suggestion from anyone and everyone on the list of music/musicians/etc that I simply must listen to. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 09:22:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EDE93BE7E; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:22:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lQ7qYfHpFbFWiG12wVuU+KmvTMRskSh6E6vGztfgl4g=; b=nhhPJFozxgKpZmVLgdEAzIwLqoaBqGHaWytAXz1eHNz4ehuQmI8yoi8wdgbSA/vuhO mMmRkKKopHotlmtNONlu7l3XNqwL2f8R1LAiAPchyynV/RyqfywOXEdGhXVCQlMJSw9n 2mVeleqQpIz8tQzuoUIwqrTzZIzYuaoziRBp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ImGt6gniQ8ip7LyQquZnqoaPu2dnBo5VCN+vOdRgnL0dq7PWFtT9G6ErgUVZ+NQvr8 UFYI5a5K1FIP4dsjYPYuZgOlvhRuualSCBjh7bIaHkZTH7mgeZVNs6MDoCbACmq87lIy h4Os9/BCDVzpawg/9jxbE7Fy91u7rj62H9SfA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:22:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7080e75795f98f22 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903060122y3760a565q626f3c46af610db@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you loop? From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e2b1867aa8704646fd3a0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:22:39 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e2b1867aa8704646fd3a0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also think this is an interesting thread, and one that I would have prefered a Forum for answering (just cos the thread becomes saved and thus a resource)... usually Im in favour of the current list. My setup is relatively simple to understand, but complicated in practice. I have a guitar, that goes through effects, the signal is split in this process and comes to a mixer as 6 channels. At the mixer it is split to a line that goes to the inputs of all my loopers. (vortex, repeater and edp (soon to be 2 edps)) Each looper then runs through it own dedicated effect, and returns to the mixer. The complexity is mostly trying to route the midi clock so that all things are synched ok (the looper effects are all synchable) and i have one issue that is that its hard for me to loop the effected loop onto a different looper without making a feedback loop. I have a plan involving another mixer and a patchbay to fix this issue, but it will need bucket loads of cables, and Im tempted to replace the looper effects and mixer part with laptop, but keep the hardware loopers as hardware. Musically, I, like Per am not trying to recreate a full band (actually I often feel my music lacks drums) but often it can get pretty loud. I dont have any specific sounds I use, they happen, but typically my music comes from pretty normal guitar looping at the start, that is effected, and chopped and re worked and chewed up, untill half an hour later, its totally unrecognisable as guitar, and thats really when I press record and START to record something... Then we see where that goes!!! mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --0016368e2b1867aa8704646fd3a0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also think this is an interesting thread, and one that I would have prefe= red a Forum for answering (just cos the thread becomes saved and thus a res= ource)... usually Im in favour of the current list.

My setup is rela= tively simple to understand, but complicated in practice.

I have a guitar, that goes through effects, the signal is split in this= process and comes to a mixer as 6 channels. At the mixer it is split to a = line that goes to the inputs of all my loopers. (vortex,=A0 repeater and ed= p (soon to be 2 edps)) Each looper then runs through it own dedicated effec= t, and returns to the mixer.
The complexity is mostly trying to route the midi clock so that all things = are synched ok (the looper effects are all synchable) and i have one issue = that is that its hard for me to loop the effected loop onto a different loo= per without making a feedback loop. I have a plan involving another mixer a= nd a patchbay to fix this issue, but it will need bucket loads of cables, a= nd Im tempted to replace the looper effects and mixer part with laptop, but= keep the hardware loopers as hardware.

Musically, I, like Per am not trying to recreate a full band (actually = I often feel my music lacks drums) but often it can get pretty loud. I dont= have any specific sounds I use, they happen, but typically my music comes = from pretty normal guitar looping at the start, that is effected, and chopp= ed and re worked and chewed up, untill half an hour later, its totally unre= cognisable as guitar, and thats really when I press record and START to rec= ord something... Then we see where that goes!!!

mark
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--0016368e2b1867aa8704646fd3a0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 09:26:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24B9A3BE82; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xuXzIO1LJktyr3EfXTYL0PhWleh9b9bhApw1M1lQSj4=; b=pUCzZZIKaUUNvP9Pua9eftdf+p4hUCox7ex+lA/LvdF/gJUJAT6uRe+w+9pnRB5kUF n5nOrN9cC4qnnINbt8Bbs9/DO2d0aSvyE0jahuHehuX8Zdb+eA65MtcFlshh0QRnS+MU 964yzAcH4Axy6vn6szmYdxmGMUOvUWCKoRN30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=wg3SaA/+qlfznE1ZxRvzFo88mBxm5b3S7RZCngQuVLSppBtvSEl9BNUlVb9Hxf8Dmg UXonFXgiRgOtSp0k1ZtOi35n2ILO1u8DfAgdzwPjjQrBFw0BRpjrsoIBw+rzTWdPQ3td Iba2MKTpSznUPxTZh28RPmpd7gKK7pCPptNk0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <003801c99e3c$f8fb3990$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> <003801c99e3c$f8fb3990$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:26:20 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e71c9c8be35f8997 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903060126if029b19h42863ee898c475f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you loop? From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ab87b3d1d104646fe092 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:26:22 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ab87b3d1d104646fe092 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Crass - Penis Envy > HA YES!!! CRASS Cool...!!!! my 3 records you must listen to... Tago Mago by Can Voice of America by Caberet Voltaire Self Non Self by Cranes (er sorry... ) -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --001636c5ab87b3d1d104646fe092 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Crass - Penis Envy

HA YES!!! CRASS Cool...!!!!

my 3 records you m= ust listen to...

Tago Mago by Can
Voice of America by Caberet Vol= taire
Self Non Self by Cranes (er sorry... )
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--001636c5ab87b3d1d104646fe092-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 09:50:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECEF53BE7F; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E2WqNHezRAx9U1QRj8Fr0+MCfBZr0zQ8bZlEQroFujo=; b=d3Qin7yBmQR+J3D1L1yrvtqmpTU2Ffb3fwbwd9njhI9lj0pSqPtX4OF2ZlOoXuhKB4 nwjIFssAM4vHzvCws2BpiiIbae7mzteFIeJAykoAbdEOmkUde3Ap2RSumbq1V9GUvA1L pKWwyeZVcR+5CCpIjiw276vEZ0GurtnWx1Cs0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=w1Z9M04CbKcKN2fDFa8UknWqnQ3jKPnIBJ/yVJynn5O0rxU+H8zo5Hu4O7gtQY18sb Kh+B2H98Kd2yKnHPYmw6nMcD5LmbbrgyxdwSPiHrdM4CT9QaxxnqJB1Uvz8emN8XLxIS aWrtlCKHqmyR6ut3B+EsSVLoPKL6KFuoqiGLE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903060126if029b19h42863ee898c475f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> <003801c99e3c$f8fb3990$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <9ab0c76f0903060126if029b19h42863ee898c475f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 01:50:26 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2a6ada83462702a4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how do you loop? From: Nick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 09:50:26 +0000 (UTC) All of my sound creation is synthesized. The brain + looper: Ableton Live The synths: Reason The effects: kaoss pad, live's and reason's effects The controllers: mk461c midi keyboard for most instruments, nanopad for percussion Also I have a super cheap mic I haven't really taken advantage of yet. Currently (since i'm still very new) I try to build up a decent sounding electronica track and progress it through different parts, but all live and starting from scratch. My long term goal is to be able to play a full set for a group of people without anyone (who doesn't look at me) knowing none of it's prerecorded. Amazing songs: Add another for "Invaders must die" Sigur Ros' Gobbdygook and...well, it's not very musically amazing but I'm on a Boat by Lonely island is a masterwork of hilarity in my opinion (watch the video with it) On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 1:26 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> >> Crass - Penis Envy > > HA YES!!! CRASS Cool...!!!! > > my 3 records you must listen to... > > Tago Mago by Can > Voice of America by Caberet Voltaire > Self Non Self by Cranes (er sorry... ) > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 10:16:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B36B3BE80; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <02E339FA6F5147CDA2079EABFA7EBCDE@middlebury.edu> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New Book... "State of the Axe" Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 05:15:52 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 69.183.253.46 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CB6C5BAA24C22A-1624-1EEB@WEBMAIL-MB02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <9pTV7D.A.hlG.hfPsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:16:01 +0000 (UTC) I just bought this book last weekend. It is pretty cool. Great=20 photographs. =3D-) PJ -----Original Message----- From: Charles Zwicky To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:31 am Subject: RE: New Book... "State of the Axe" Each artist featured in that book=C2=A0 wrote a piece specifically for the=20 project=C2=A0 describing what the guitar means to them.... It's fascinating,=C2=A0 81 guitarists....!! =C2=A0Derek Bailey,=C2=A0 Vernon Reid,=C2=A0 Jef Lee Johnson, Brandon Ross,=20= Andy=20 Summers,=C2=A0 Bill Frisell, Arto Lindsay, Rhys Chatham, John McLaughlin,=20 Scofield, Jim Hall, Holdsworth, Marc Ribot, David Torn....... the book=20 has=C2=A0 s0 much depth... Thanks Chuck for the heads up. =C2=A0 m.c. =C2=A0 Mark Christensen http://www.twistedapplerecords.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Stone-Document/47030826836 -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 10:21:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E50D3BE89; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000c01c99e45$4d993cb0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> <003801c99e3c$f8fb3990$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> <9ab0c76f0903060126if029b19h42863ee898c475f4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you loop? Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:21:14 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 10:21:12 +0000 (UTC) CV!!! Equally cool ! >Voice of America by Caberet Voltaire > > >Crass - Penis Envy > >HA YES!!! CRASS Cool...!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 11:34:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0CCA3BE89; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236339272; bh=dDmtpvHJsAk5EOuK9xGqNUUDegnYnfcTDNNMZ2DvRHU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Uaab+vOuPHjNAmnzMQNR3vyaE2X3CmuOOx1BWOFs8mlKPmvHbH2DzXfa/K/MReQQOvwjIJYBKGvO7Bljwz3Ad1eKpL61MGKf8GUVbRU0tiQvUm1u0ItUvhFrTG3XES3NGYOtj/Ptu0QdGO5ny8ckRZ9P0MbQlfoMM1Q3UxSA/A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LSZ4Dy1LN8UEWxltn7gnMUsH3cICQwCSN3ID9vMw57EiBkH4fjwZvFG/M1C2EL8tk1I/bzz2+Nv95BHb0IXhI1U4gqT1E9z08KNdfgmjoWzQ3Fr8h09hydSCgyvApVk2vETc25sHOKx62jXcydg7FWxQM3twAs30TKahxnNXnpQ=; Message-ID: <736385.51765.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cQdVdIkVM1nEFiF9QL6qYwR5Z5d6zTPm.tikq2.8F1cemXToH_H4dRNCDl4OoOKW3fqvV6kOx8BogLKJAopRfnMI_6WSqlfN9zaDbCssnTwuYrWdxVi_JsjFqE27xUEkML0.ngIxZcnpkwim2WCTYfnSdvRzhRw_5imaDmJiPOeJaAqyoYg4PTCm20opRg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 03:34:32 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: how do you loop? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903060033k5bd0e0a2gbd8ac7fee479e28@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <-lLDrC.A.suE.JpQsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:34:33 +0000 (UTC) I use Mobius on a macbook as stand alone with no plugins. On the floor i have the following: Boss OC3,Pog,Eventide Timefactor,Digitech,Vocalist 4 through a mic i use one instrument,mostly acoustic guitar plus my voice. I used to loop using the EDP with more loops set to 4 for recording different parts and arranging switching between them.With mobius i use tracks mostly now and arrange by muting them manipulating them separately with rate shift,bouncing etc. Ive also been experimenting by slaving an Adrenalinn III to it and i am back playing my electric guitar. Soemtimes i save the loops but mostly i dont, though perhaps i shouldnt rely on my perception on whats good and what isnt and just savem them always. I am thinking of puting out a CD with some of this ideas without doing any post production and just as they are. usually after a looping gig i go about a week without turning on the laptop and doing any looping and just play my acoustic guitar. cheers Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 14:23:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACA523BE82; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 158529188/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.152.174/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.152.174 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkgBAAvBsElPTpiu/2dsb2JhbAAI10+ECAaGbg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,314,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="158529188" Message-ID: <49B133E6.3040409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:32:06 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: how do you loop? References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Nevyn Nowhere wrote: > I'm sure this has been asked many times throughout the existence of this > list; I've even seen a couple folks talk of such things recently, but > not a thread devoted to it. > > So I, and probably others, wonder: > > How do you loop? I think about creating with sound a series of scenes that have a particular feel/atmosphere. To achieve this I explore all the usual resources available to a composer, including the often forgotten one of melody. However I also look to the possibilities offered by looping devices, and to some extent use their limitations as a compositional device. Improvisation and composition are freely combined, but by the time I get to live performance there's usually a tendency to play things that are planned. > What is your ideal setup and process, HofnerSGguitar(or other)>>high quality pre-amp>>laptop running bidule(vst plugins)>>JBL Eon speakers. controlled by Gordius Little Giant. but would have to be a laptop setup with less latency than is currently common. ..and Matthias would have to finish the software EDP ..and I'd have to write a Vortex emulator plugin, at least to cover my essential sounds. Really though, I find that working with a non-ideal setup is quite stimulating. If the looper won't do exactly what you want, then it's often the workaround for that which ends up making the piece interesting. >and what is your > usual setup and process? solo HofnerSGguitar>>EH Stereo Memory Man>>ADA MP1(pre)>>Vortex>>2xEDP>>rack mixer>>JBL Eon Speakers. controlled by Gordius Little Giant. with band (not much looping) I have the EH Stereo Memory Man. >Whether you use hardware/software/a mix of > both (ok, I'm slanted, I'm always more curious about the last, since > that is how I like to go, but I'm curious about it all, as from time to > time I do the other options as well), I'd like to know your live process. Essentially, the EDPs are a stereo pair, and are used for layering and editing. The EH-SMM and Vortex can be used to create loops that can be resampled onto the edps. I have a number of loop strategies, which can be used for a particular piece, or as a framework for improv. > > Yes, I should specify, this about LIVE setups/processes, etc. > > Looking forward to hearing how we all do our thing! > > -nn > happyhumans.org > > PS: Feel free to reply offlist, but I'd also like 2-3 suggestion from > anyone and everyone on the list of music/musicians/etc that I simply > must listen to. Your absolute favorite 2-3 (and yes I know there is > always a time and place, but let's look overall). I crave new input, > but not an overload of! Bartok - String Quartet No 4 Messian - Quartet for the End of Time (a couple of versions at least) Ornette Coleman :-) hey, I'm *serious* today andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 14:58:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED2FB3BE84; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:58:27 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=b4lkKrjR9/6syrd7NSzasBpdhxHD/jvZBqiUMG/1iLYTuHNWZo2EvLp097X808jBya/+7FNKRBoTnm2q26NmXsDDkz3JpIqC2MLwWOy7wTdAqromkZqSGYLkAWAbDLap; Message-ID: <20090306085134.aw3sew90iokgokss@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:51:34 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 21 min improv @ loft References: <20090304005130.6668E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <004601c99c9b$a435c120$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <4187632F0FD5438D8C0401C54003EA6B@pcfabio> In-Reply-To: <4187632F0FD5438D8C0401C54003EA6B@pcfabio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 14:58:27 +0000 (UTC) > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 8:34 AM > Subject: 21 min improv @ loft > > >> I played a nice 'experimental guitar evening' on Saturday in Cologne's LOFT >> together with Craig Green and Michael Frank. My solo improv and a short >> report is here: veloopity.blogspot.com -Michael >> >> > Listening to this now. Very nice way to start the day. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 15:53:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D6873BE82; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-07.arcor-online.net 8A3273CA4F8 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236354780; bh=qqiyQ7YaJVE9nD6niWjkf2i50bN/8VLsLf9xQMj2Zqc=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=nhXSAtY+xfIno0puaTPOWWf2fbRuxbvfFcqoE7+S3upBM orygA0zdwKkL3QHLz1x5Xuo6Dpsq5Wi7QJ7v3FiWMoAJkIaXv8jgMcwX5jlbZRIvRzu pWDzBB+iYlMTgrypK/ppbki4I2RTIyKDXZN+ztE6RxlhU1ARwKKnLTgdoj4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: how do you loop? Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:53:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9078/Fri Mar 6 15:46:21 2009 on mail-in-07.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:53:02 +0000 (UTC) I find myself using less and less stuff these days. To a typical gig I'd bring one electric guitar, ebow/slide/assorted things to prepare the gtr (brushes on gtr sound great!), a couple of pedals and an amp. I'll loop with an EDP with the analog footcontroller and a Kenton Spin Doctor Midi control box. I love the EDP since it's granular loop option provides me with a fantastic alternative to the more standard ostinato-oriented approach. That way I can use it in free improv situations a lot. I used to love to bathe in Lexicon reverb/big delay type soundscapes for ages but have abandoned them along with the much-loved volume pedal six years or so ago. Just left them at home to see if it would work. I hardly play with reverb at all these days, working more with different playing styles, room ambience and the mystic "3-D-Sound" of good tube amps (it really seems to help). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 16:08:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FEC63BE84; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 11:07:47 EST Subject: electrix MO-FX To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c99.43284f57.36e2a453_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:08:05 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c99.43284f57.36e2a453_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yesterday, i was working with some sequences i had in my cz5000, it has an 8 trac sequencer in it.....the casio goes into my mixer (mackie 1202) then the sig is sent first to my MO-FX then off to the rest of my "chain".....what i discovered is that by changing the "band" (high, med. low) i could effect what sounds would go into the MO-FX from the casio.....what a discovery.....in effect, i could "play" the MO-FX in several ways......change the sounds coming from the casio, change the "delay" and also for some spice, change what went into the "flanger" and "tremolo".....i had never messed with the "band" buttons in the past but with a bit of experimentaion this turns out to be a very useful tool, kept me off the streets for an evening!.....so make a loop and send it into the MO and change up the "band" buttons and see what happens.....perhaps i'm the last person to discover this, if so, i'm sorry to waste your time but if you haven't played with this, give it a shot, you may find it useful.....it's funny, right when i think i know a piece of equipment, i discover that it can do so much more, what fun!.....also, a little rang trick that i've been fooling with, get a loop (sequence) playing and send it to the rang but have the rang set up to play the loop in reverse, hit the reverse button, then record, here's the fun part, let the loop record for how ever long you want ( 1 sec.- 20 sec.) whatever, the longer the better, then hit the record button again, what you then have is a loop that plays forward and then 10-15 secs. later plays backwards.....what i like about this with a long reverse time is that quite often i forget what i had input and on hearing it (later) in reverse, it adds an element of "surprise" to what is going on.....once again, sorry if this is old hat.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Worried about job security? 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(http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job= -industries?ncid=3Demlcntuscare00000002) --part1_c99.43284f57.36e2a453_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 16:41:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64DD93BE7F; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236357679; bh=opIZhh1vXgXpGSKf1CJNX3askP1LXbjgszpEu3jrkDU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JRPsjUDG4zXWVSHu/V4nm4UQhJ7gzIxEyhvCWmMP4ayhPGaDXpwRtSfgQ3CjJltianI1aIA1S7if+Q6JfK7dcAtcSK5IdjtgWB1B10ZbKjuCEtuKjVD+V+tpqCwq/l1xS4BmNXPzc4TjPGAbvug6mE+wSZ9MD0WWWkiXDa2zYnU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jfw5evS9AxUQSbQyv/GKuZr+InNzSWfEVoOhPgLF7ZWk11nnJlYaGLix6u0MOlTbBUpHZOd2MxS4yibb7+laUrdzrRvqvcar6cbyoGF1Q0mR1lEsoKOtvuq+VOEyxnkfbOcmTzcIcKJ27NOn+2sWcyrYVREov1cmtHYdZpmKXC0=; Message-ID: <340326.67342.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5s6Dr88VM1kdMdT705U1Rm9U7DO6JN.Sfxu1vxwEycr7yiOLd.FT446XrxOaFtj0C9un0DRwbt70WcTAfibllf_q8ohg16XxqFB3ufioDDSXtJhIbLoU_gyD8n7UdlfOho31SuKa7g8jWtYuTwRVXLRktw_KHyRKny0tCBSdG2lwHnGY1LOBTI.2n75gDLeB4KkMJ_I0CFHaSyZvOVCX0QswO4HQCVjKwQUIMWCSeMAZ X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 08:41:19 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: how do you loop? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090306142340.67AFA3BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-303767411-1236357679=:67342" Resent-Message-ID: <9EJNo.A.dxF.wIVsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:41:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-303767411-1236357679=:67342 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii well, i guess you could see here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en these were done last year some time, one w/ boss dd20, one w/ my boss rc20. i also use a delay for time manipulation usually (in past was ibanez de7, or digitech digidelay). my setup now is: guitar--zoom g2--digitech rp150--boss dd7--behringer tweakalizer--boss rc20--lexicon mx200--out to my 2 amps, one marshall 10 watt , other kustom tube 12 (if i'm playing live in my studio-if i need to be quiet, i have stereo outs to my fostex mr8 digital recorder). i'm not sure if i have a real method to my so-called madness, probably based on what i've watched over and over in david torn's old vids from early 90's. play something, loop it w/ one of my options, and i guess options is good, b/c each thing does things differently. the dd7 allows my to manipulate time (love that feature), the tweakalizer has a 10 sec sampler and you can reverse it or play w/ pitch up or down an octave-love that. the rc20 allows for longer phrases and good reverse, and you can overdub and go crazy back and forth (it's a great tool!), and i use the digitech rp150 for digital glitchy things, gets whacky electronic real quick. i guess i mostly improvise-either chords, or series of notes, lots of noise w/ my microphone in guitar, something. the funny thing is if you watch the vids, i seem to have a formula when i make the public access shows-start clean, try some bad fahey thing, do some clinks and clanks ala henry kaiser type improvs, find something in that mess to loop, usually gets ugly distortion, rip out my 80's faux hair metal wannabees licks, then usually end w/ something pretty, nice, clean. i don't think i intend to do that, but over the course of the 6 to 7 shows i've made, that's been it. sure there is some variation at times. the funny thing, is when watching back, and i do, just to see how i'm playing, the sound that i hear when i'm making it, is never the sound i hear when watching it back. but i guess you have to trust the recording device, and i'm using a cheap old video recorder-it is not STATE OF THE ART BY ANY STRETCH. i suppose some day i should record some new stuff on my myspace page, the music on there is old. just lazy i guess. the other thing is my setup is fairly cheap, i'm on a budget for sure, i had to wait until the rc20xl came out, and that dropped the prices of the old 5 min max rc20's, i still think it's a great tool.oh, i should add i'm waiting for my DAED disturbo DS-1 and my adrenalinn II to come in the mail, sold all the gear i wasn't using, bought myself some new tools for my birthday. i'm still searching for that "clean-distorted" sound-i haven't been happy w/ getting that, i'm hoping the tricked out DAED ds-1 will help. way too much info.... s--- ps-i should say that i've also used my cheapo casio keyboard for "other sounds"-i can't play it, i just make more noise w/ it, and i've also plugged in a radio in my setup for more noise. i'm pretty decent at playing the radio. ha! --0-303767411-1236357679=:67342 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
well, i guess you could see here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en

these were done last year some time, one w/ boss dd20, one w/ my boss rc20.
i also use a delay for time manipulation usually (in past was ibanez de7, or digitech digidelay).
my setup now is: guitar--zoom g2--digitech rp150--boss dd7--behringer tweakalizer--boss rc20--lexicon mx200--out to my 2 amps, one marshall 10 watt , other kustom tube 12 (if i'm playing live in my studio-if i need to be quiet, i have stereo outs to my fostex mr8 digital recorder).
i'm not sure if i have a real method to my so-called madness, probably based on what i've watched over and over in david torn's old vids from early 90's. play something, loop it w/ one of my options, and i guess options is good, b/c each thing does things differently. the dd7 allows my to manipulate time (love that feature), the tweakalizer has a 10 sec sampler and you can reverse it or play w/ pitch up or down an octave-love that. the rc20 allows for longer phrases and good reverse, and you can overdub and go crazy back and forth (it's a great tool!), and i use the digitech rp150 for digital glitchy things, gets whacky electronic real quick. i guess i mostly improvise-either chords, or series of notes, lots of noise w/ my microphone in guitar, something. the funny thing is if you watch the vids, i seem to have a formula when i make the public access shows-start clean, try some bad fahey thing, do some clinks and clanks ala henry kaiser type improvs, find something in that mess to loop, usually gets ugly distortion, rip out my 80's faux hair metal wannabees licks, then usually end w/ something pretty, nice, clean. i don't think i intend to do that, but over the course of the 6 to 7 shows i've made, that's been it. sure there is some variation at times. the funny thing, is when watching back, and i do, just to see how i'm playing, the sound that i hear when i'm making it, is never the sound i hear when watching it back. but i guess you have to trust the recording device, and i'm using a cheap old video recorder-it is not STATE OF THE ART BY ANY STRETCH.
i suppose some day i should record some new stuff on my myspace page, the music on there is old. just lazy i guess.
the other thing is my setup is fairly cheap, i'm on a budget for sure, i had to wait until the rc20xl came out, and that dropped the prices of the old 5 min max rc20's, i still think it's a great tool.oh, i should add i'm waiting for my DAED disturbo DS-1 and my adrenalinn II to come in the mail, sold all the gear i wasn't using, bought myself some new tools for my birthday. i'm still searching for that "clean-distorted" sound-i haven't been happy w/ getting that, i'm hoping the tricked out DAED ds-1 will help.
way too much info....
s---
ps-i should say that i've also used my cheapo casio keyboard for "other sounds"-i can't play it, i just make more noise w/ it, and i've also plugged in a radio in my setup for more noise.
i'm pretty decent at playing the radio. ha!


--0-303767411-1236357679=:67342-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 17:33:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1E583BE7E; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236360789; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=hQLSOWkh/DCgAORGd4qGjq1IX94=; b=Zq1gH2t8DezD6BQDsuhSYMtH9IidXRvTHyo0cd11EgphMGlg9FRKWmJPdP0te1Rq tfN1kCwjXL/wQg73C9SsoMBoO/D8v9oNQ7TnKNEZ3jFiG2OsbAKtalAhtPZ3A0ry; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=vY4Yh9z9EMHcvYf4c54A:9 a=gJi6kkBaeZnDm5rt1ZrCpu0z1CwA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=vViZfcZP9qwA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=DP0QytiBybmjAYCPd2gA:9 a=6O5V9pJ7k4Mhg1iI23sA:7 a=AwUFePHHpIaAMzBIw4IlPlm5MsIA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c99e81$e70b7f70$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <333287c30903051629l435fe824tfac4220185533457@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903060122y3760a565q626f3c46af610db@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: how do you loop? Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:35:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E57.FDB71FB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:33:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E57.FDB71FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am still an old skool hardware "long delay" type I guess. I run = through lots of fx then into a DL 4 for short rhythmic or "pad" sounds. = I feed this to a Boss DD 20, then into my EH 2880. Everything in series. = Nothing synced but having "tap" for time is great these days. I would = like to also be able to run parallel loopers. Someone from this list = came up with a great idea but it would involve another DD 20 and a Boss = LS 2. Then I could feed a DD 20 and have it looping, switch to the other = DD 20 into the 2880. It would make things even more complicated and lots = more wires though. sigh, you lappy guys sometimes tempt me. I fear it's = too late to change horses at this point though. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 4:22 AM Subject: Re: how do you loop? I also think this is an interesting thread, and one that I would have = prefered a Forum for answering (just cos the thread becomes saved and = thus a resource)... usually Im in favour of the current list. My setup is relatively simple to understand, but complicated in = practice. I have a guitar, that goes through effects, the signal is split in = this process and comes to a mixer as 6 channels. At the mixer it is = split to a line that goes to the inputs of all my loopers. (vortex, = repeater and edp (soon to be 2 edps)) Each looper then runs through it = own dedicated effect, and returns to the mixer.=20 The complexity is mostly trying to route the midi clock so that all = things are synched ok (the looper effects are all synchable) and i have = one issue that is that its hard for me to loop the effected loop onto a = different looper without making a feedback loop. I have a plan involving = another mixer and a patchbay to fix this issue, but it will need bucket = loads of cables, and Im tempted to replace the looper effects and mixer = part with laptop, but keep the hardware loopers as hardware. Musically, I, like Per am not trying to recreate a full band (actually = I often feel my music lacks drums) but often it can get pretty loud. I = dont have any specific sounds I use, they happen, but typically my music = comes from pretty normal guitar looping at the start, that is effected, = and chopped and re worked and chewed up, untill half an hour later, its = totally unrecognisable as guitar, and thats really when I press record = and START to record something... Then we see where that goes!!!=20 mark --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E57.FDB71FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am still an old skool hardware "long = delay" type=20 I guess. I run through lots of fx then into a DL 4 for short rhythmic or = "pad"=20 sounds. I feed this to a Boss DD 20, then into my EH 2880. Everything in = series.=20 Nothing synced but having "tap" for time is great these days. I = would like=20 to also be able to run parallel loopers. Someone from this list came up = with a=20 great idea but it would involve another DD 20 and a Boss LS 2. Then I = could feed=20 a DD 20 and have it looping, switch to the other DD 20 into the 2880. It = would=20 make things even more complicated and lots more wires though. sigh, you = lappy=20 guys sometimes tempt me. I fear it's too late to change horses at this = point=20 though.
 
Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 = 4:22=20 AM
Subject: Re: how do you = loop?

I also think this is an interesting thread, and one = that I=20 would have prefered a Forum for answering (just cos the thread becomes = saved=20 and thus a resource)... usually Im in favour of the current = list.

My=20 setup is relatively simple to understand, but complicated in=20 practice.

I have a guitar, that goes through effects, the = signal is=20 split in this process and comes to a mixer as 6 channels. At the mixer = it is=20 split to a line that goes to the inputs of all my loopers. = (vortex, =20 repeater and edp (soon to be 2 edps)) Each looper then runs through it = own=20 dedicated effect, and returns to the mixer.
The complexity is = mostly=20 trying to route the midi clock so that all things are synched ok (the = looper=20 effects are all synchable) and i have one issue that is that its hard = for me=20 to loop the effected loop onto a different looper without making a = feedback=20 loop. I have a plan involving another mixer and a patchbay to fix this = issue,=20 but it will need bucket loads of cables, and Im tempted to replace the = looper=20 effects and mixer part with laptop, but keep the hardware loopers as=20 hardware.

Musically, I, like Per am not trying to recreate a = full band=20 (actually I often feel my music lacks drums) but often it can get = pretty loud.=20 I dont have any specific sounds I use, they happen, but typically my = music=20 comes from pretty normal guitar looping at the start, that is = effected, and=20 chopped and re worked and chewed up, untill half an hour later, its = totally=20 unrecognisable as guitar, and thats really when I press record and = START to=20 record something... Then we see where that goes!!!

mark
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http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C99E57.FDB71FB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 19:50:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BAD13BE7E; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2hnl/maZHkbVRdLFzHj5zIanUObjic4oP+Z+/W8sALw=; b=nmeiYD9kkab4/JVesXE4BFV5UkcplnTD9BbI3C12zAJz5x/UTSq8okjWdvzQEYbM5T zfUWTYAbhVsorZJSqSBMqTuvh1oCAW5CtY6eVD4yGSjkGkDDT0C0rD02FujJyi436yp9 f7jUG+3C+hAiX7VBjG0tKyKmO4cmj8lYAYd2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hKKATAfo4ji2JLBgQRQn0jn4gDg3Je/nWSnV93ODnng+q024qsUAYhdpaC5CKKqJin Wdpwi8/+uw3dsipv3WQELmA6VOiHVzkpXhM3wcXvTpi6O5HGAp3GNZRm8e9jsXDDTUmn 5gFGDxw2Fgc8zG/2IYyg3BRaTXtQglpnmShq4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:50:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 06139064b001cb0d Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903061150s7dabdaafpfcb838842cc16ad1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: electrix MO-FX From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bcc58e0cd90464789946 Resent-Message-ID: <5DRc5.A.gYC.T6XsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 19:50:43 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bcc58e0cd90464789946 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, actually im thinking of selling my MOFX... so yes I have done the band thing before... but my god I know what you mean... I often get to my gear and try somthing, and go.. "hmm never done THAT before... most often with EDP and a korg synth I have... On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM, wrote: > yesterday, i was working with some sequences i had in my cz5000, it has an > 8 trac sequencer in it.....the casio goes into my mixer (mackie 1202) then > the sig is sent first to my MO-FX then off to the rest of my > "chain".....what i discovered is that by changing the "band" (high, med. > low) i could effect what sounds would go into the MO-FX from the > casio.....what a discovery.....in effect, i could "play" the MO-FX in > several ways......change the sounds coming from the casio, change the > "delay" and also for some spice, change what went into the "flanger" and > "tremolo".....i had never messed with the "band" buttons in the past but > with a bit of experimentaion this turns out to be a very useful tool, kept > me off the streets for an evening!.....so make a loop and send it into the > MO and change up the "band" buttons and see what happens.....perhaps i'm the > last person to discover this, if so, i'm sorry to waste your time but if you > haven't played with this, give it a shot, you may find it useful.....it's > funny, right when i think i know a piece of equipment, i discover that it > can do so much more, what fun!.....also, a little rang trick that i've been > fooling with, get a loop (sequence) playing and send it to the rang but have > the rang set up to play the loop in reverse, hit the reverse button, then > record, here's the fun part, let the loop record for how ever long you want > ( 1 sec.- 20 sec.) whatever, the longer the better, then hit the record > button again, what you then have is a loop that plays forward and then 10-15 > secs. later plays backwards.....what i like about this with a long reverse > time is that quite often i forget what i had input and on hearing it (later) > in reverse, it adds an element of "surprise" to what is going on.....once > again, sorry if this is old hat.....:)m > > > > "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. ( > http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --001636c5bcc58e0cd90464789946 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, actually im thinking of selling my MOFX... so yes I have done the ban= d thing before... but my god I know what you mean... I often get to my gear= and try somthing, and go.. "hmm never done THAT before... most often = with EDP and a korg synth I have...

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 5:07 PM, <Nemoguitt@aol.com>= wrote:
yesterday, i was working with some sequences i had in my cz5000, it = has an 8 trac sequencer in it.....the casio goes into my mixer (mackie 1202= ) then the sig is sent first to my MO-FX then off to the rest of my "c= hain".....what i discovered is that by changing the "band" (= high, med. low) i could effect what sounds would go into the MO-FX from the= casio.....what a discovery.....in effect, i could "play" the MO-= FX in several ways......change the sounds coming from the casio, change the= "delay" and also for some spice, change what went into the "= ;flanger" and=A0 "tremolo".....i had never messed with the = "band" buttons in the past but with a bit of experimentaion this = turns out to be a very useful tool, kept me off the streets for an evening!= .....so make a loop and send it into the MO and change up the "band&qu= ot; buttons and see what happens.....perhaps i'm the last person to dis= cover this, if so, i'm sorry to waste your time but if you haven't = played with this, give it a shot, you may find it useful.....it's funny= , right when i think i know a piece of equipment, i discover that it can do= so much more, what fun!.....also, a little rang trick that i've been f= ooling with, get a loop (sequence) playing and send it to the rang but have= the rang set up to play the loop in reverse, hit the reverse button, then = record, here's the fun part, let the loop record for how ever long you = want ( 1 sec.- 20 sec.) whatever, the longer the better, then hit the recor= d button again, what you then have is a loop that plays forward and then 10= -15 secs. later plays backwards.....what i like about this with a long reve= rse time is that quite often i forget what i had input and on hearing it (l= ater) in reverse, it adds an element of "surprise" to what is goi= ng on.....once again, sorry if this is old hat.....:)m



"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes at:
http://www= .myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collectiv= e.com




**************
Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs= in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gal= lery/growing-job-industries?ncid=3Demlcntuscare00000002)



--
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--001636c5bcc58e0cd90464789946-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 20:25:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51D403BE7C; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B1869D.3050304@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 12:25:01 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: electrix MO-FX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_LRp-D.A.PfF.jaYsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 20:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Michael wrote: ".....i had never messed with the "band" buttons in the past but with a bit of experimentaion this turns out to be a very useful tool, kept me off the streets for an evening!.....so make a loop and send it into the MO and change up the "band" buttons and see what happens.....perhaps i'm the last person to discover this, if so, i'm sorry to waste your time but if you haven't played with this, give it a shot, you may find it useful....." Yeah, equalization is a really powerful sculptor of sound. Frankly, I'm surprised that more stomp box pedals aren't made that just have interesting twists on equalizing things in real time. There is a dearth of equalizers that can be used rhythmically in real time. I used to record a constantly swelling , dark, deep 20" crash cymbal into my Electrix Repeater and then turn the volume off, radically switch it's eq on my Mackie 1402VLZ board and then swell the sounds up just to mute them on downbeats. It's a great and simple effect and gives one, in essence, a constant 'noise' source to play with rhythmically. I especially love that the Electrix MoFX and Filter Factory had huge drum machine style buttons, intended to be hammered on that would either mute the effect when it was turned on, or temporarily turn the effect on when it was turned off. There's an endless source of 'drummistic' possibilities to be had by rhythmically playing an effect in this way. I was sad that the Electrix EQ killer was never made into a larger unit with that type of functionality. Usually melodic instrumentalists don't explore this kind of territory because it precludes being able to play your axe with two hands but when you put the effect after your looper then it's a great trick to use, especially if you have a 2nd looper later in your chain. Currently, I"m running a DL4 at the start of my pedal board , a DL4 at the end (for resampling or using as a digital delay) and then all of that into the Looperlative for major mangling. In between, I have my DOD Buzz Box and my Zvez Fuzz Factory and frequently I just toggle these rhythmically with my feet to create cool new rhythmic loops. In fact, in my Aether Engine, noise and rhythm project which I'm debuting live this coming Monday (boy, am I nervous!!) I'm mostly using distortion, EQ and rhythm to make the lions share of the music. I allowed myself a marching bass drum and a marching snare drum and some assorted pieces of metal to augment my Strat and my Robelli 12 string electric bass guitar. Let's hear it for equalization. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 6 23:24:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 545933BE7C; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6103D512-B241-454C-B027-D1E140DF5A9B@mikecrain.com> From: Mike Crain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-376623020 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: how do you loop? Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:24:20 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:24:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-376623020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't try to emulate the 'band setup' either, but have thought about attempting that at some point just to see what is possible. Anyway, my setup is basically various instruments, usually one at a time, but I prefer using my vibraphone. Using the FCB1010 and a MacBook Pro running LIVE with several tracks & effects is the tool is how I create my loops. There's no Mobius, SooperLooper, etc. Mike Crain Percussionist/Composer Sacramento, CA 95818 mike@mikecrain.com http://www.mikecrain.com http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by the partials will represent an appreciable contribution." - Edgard Varese --Apple-Mail-5-376623020 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't try to emulate the = 'band setup' either, but have thought about attempting that at some = point just to see what is possible. Anyway, my setup is basically = various instruments, usually one at a time, but I prefer using my = vibraphone. Using the FCB1010 and a MacBook Pro running LIVE with = several tracks & effects is the tool is how I create my loops. = There's no Mobius, SooperLooper, = etc.




Mike Crain
Percussionist/Composer
Sacramento, CA = 95818
mike@mikecrain.com
Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be = revealed
will represent = an appreciable = contribution.  





= --Apple-Mail-5-376623020-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 00:08:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9FC23BE75; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xw2hX+yvFIjOwROyGqdw/cabskCzRgCDh9zwKWhXIWc=; b=nD/mUi6tPZWFV17ehtcMSuM1pvmLoaGrrX0ybBnyxtNIIv8bP6IlgroRu+jRWz8zRb WwdPXKjQ7qmHqRvV879GjHQgLHn1sXQNfMVFNiGRshw2fHinOiW0AUZ6Ap+Dp6+Ifumh kyVX0YGUM5HtiK0r+lmrJ6flOn0I3HRzDbm5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UXLil5m6CmmG9tCtFIXwwDnVqgaJ/dxUDNkPnCm4XvBOZP0k1OXIVsihCC2sp69NuZ sRvQ1wCTt8LO6YnMvymbU3/GFMnviT37A8Cz4bhakT+EfCqS1DNkJtsHAjODRj+Zj/bM mQMSwvUiWx75s1ob0ZdGYjOV9EU/SkE7rdXVM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6103D512-B241-454C-B027-D1E140DF5A9B@mikecrain.com> References: <6103D512-B241-454C-B027-D1E140DF5A9B@mikecrain.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:08:40 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: how do you loop? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:08:43 +0000 (UTC) My loop setup is set up to allow me to choose between "phrase loops" (with a DL-4) and "sound-bed loops". The sound-bed loops frequently use DFX-94's, which are better for building non-rhythmic pattens and drones. My aim is to flush things out without the ears getting into the mindset of repetitive rhythmic phrases (where they expect things to happen in multiples of 4). With hardware, I generally aim to bring enough that I can make a wide enough array of sounds, but not so much that it distracts me. I have 3 pedals that I use all the time, that define most of my sound, and 2 more that I use sparingly. You shouldn't feel a need to use every piece of equipment at every show. Recommended listening for loopers: Rapoon "Darker by Light" (repetitive phrases that one could actually get lost in) Portishead "Third" (loops used in context of a larger song) Aphex Twin "Selected Ambient Works, Vol II" (simplicity being powerful and interesting.) Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From mohamedwaleed6@gmail.com Sat Mar 7 08:52:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1006 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:52:55 UTC Received: from mail-ew0-f162.google.com (mail-ew0-f162.google.com [209.85.219.162]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4993BE73 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ewy6 with SMTP id 6so390269ewy.6 for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:52:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g0P8sxngWZJhkSl1mnqQI7Rr73TeFAOJd2vQonfHO+Q=; b=qwVYRzVKLG2TOv27mY78Zd/25K5Iw7X7RrzAJW2fH3hU8+Gu0NDL76QyWzLVjOFugc VRE3Te7ZlFmUlvbyYkiodeoKL47lofvTEJk62ja35BTlPeAkNT7LxOaeaaKM2zFdmmJr oJgY7A/bZ9EfmjvzltFd1bspMZ64T0BesndbM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eFpCxVqJPEnDSIPShWzQHZNcMCy2Ve4KaBOwPzYR9973R8hx0aT3pNgARsHRMgWhte 841t5GyRLaOjbbWlMt/deq/ykOy7xrXHNws8Y2qR6QY5eCI9XHM87jPOpBzhqiZXKNyK fygvDbWMx13kIfCu/HtobRehWMGSRL5mo2D40= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.210.144.3 with SMTP id r3mr575064ebd.78.1236414965365; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 00:36:05 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: mohamedwaleed15@gmail.com Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:36:05 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: URGENT ATTENTION NEEDED FROM YOU From: mohamed waleed6 To: allen.jamesr@gmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174be6d2ce3f180464834a04 --0015174be6d2ce3f180464834a04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *FROM THE DESK OF MR MOHAMED WALEED BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER, BANK OF GHANA ACCRA GHANA* *WEST AFRICA.* *DEAR FRIEND,* *I KNOW THAT THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE,I GOT YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS FROM THE GHANA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHILE I WAS SEARCHING FOR SOMEBODY THAT HAS SIMILAR NAME WITH OUR DECEASED CUSTOMER.* *I AM THE MANAGER OF BILL AND EXCHANGE BANK OF GHANA (B.O.G) AT FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT .THERE IS A BUSINESS I WOULD WANT YOU TO CHAMPION FOR ME.IN MY DEPARTMENT WE DISCOVERED AN ABANDONED SUM OF ($ 16.500.000 U.S) SIXTEEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSANDS US DOLLARS) . IN AN ACCOUNT THAT BELONGS TO ONE OF OUR FOREIGN CUSTOMER WHO DIED ALONG WITH HIS ENTIRE FAMILY IN 11TH SEPTEMBER 2003 IN A PLANE CRASH.**SINCE WE GOT INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DEATH, WE HAVE BEEN EXPECTING HIS NEXT OF KIN TO COME OVER AND CLAIM HIS MONEY BECAUSE WE CANNOTRELEASE IT UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR IT AS NEXT OF KIN OR RELATION TO THE DECEASED, AS INDICATED IN OUR BANKING GUIDELINES, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE LEARNT THAT ALL HIS SUPPOSED NEXT OF KIN'S OR RELATION DIED ALONG SIDE WITH HIM IN THE PLANE CRASH LEAVING NOBODY BEHIND FOR THE CLAIM.* *IT IS THEREFORE UPON THIS DISCOVERY THAT I NOW DECIDED TO MAKE THIS BUSINNESS PROPOSAL TO YOU AND RELEASE THE MONEY TO YOU AS THE NEXT OF KIN OR RELATION TO THE DECEASED FOR SAFETY AND SUBSEQUENT DISBURSEMENT SINCE NOBODY IS COMING FOR IT AND I DONT WANT THIS MONEY TO GO INTO THE BANK TREASURY AS UNCLAIMED BILL.* *THE BANKING LAW AND GUIDELINE HERE STIPULATES THAT IF SUCH MONEY REMAINED UNCLAIMED AFTER SIX YEARS, THE MONEY WILL BE TRANSFERED INTO THE BANK TREASURY AS UNCLAIMED FUND.* *THE REQUEST OF FOREIGNER AS NEXT OF KIN IN THIS BUSINESS IS OCCASIONED BY THE FACT THAT THE CUSTOMER WAS A FOREIGNER AND A GHANIAN CANNOT STAND AS NEXT OF KIN TO A FOREIGNER. I AGREED THAT 20 % OF THIS MONEY WILL BE FOR YOU AS FOREIGN PARTNER, * *IN RESPECT TO THE PROVISION OF A FOREIGN ACCOUNT, AND 10 % WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR EXPENSES INCURED DURING THE BUSINESS AND 70 % WOULD BE FOR ME.**THERE AFTER I WILL VISIT YOUR COUNTRY FOR DISBURSEMENT ACCORDING TO THE PERCENTAGES INDICATED. THEREFORE TO ENABLE THE IMMEDIATE TRANSFER OF THIS FUND TO YOU AS ARRANGED,YOU MUST APPLY FIRST TO THE BANK AS RELATIONS OR NEXT OF KIN OF THE DECEASED INDICATING YOUR BANK NAME, YOUR BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER, YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMBER FOR EASY AND EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION AND LOCATION WHERE IN THE MONEY WILL BE REMITTED.* *ALL MODALITIES OF THIS TRANSACTION HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY WORKED OUT AND ONCE STARTED WILL NOT TAKE MORE THAN FOURTEEN(14) WORKING DAYS, WITH YOUR FULL SUPPORT. THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE.IT INVOLVE NO ANY IMPLICATION AND NO ANY PRECAUTION THERE AFTER.UPON RECEIPT OF YOUR REPLY, I WILL SEND TO YOU BY FAX OR EMAIL THE TEXT OF THE APPLICATION.**I WILL NOT FAIL TO BRING TO YOUR NOTICE THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS HITCH FREE AND THAT YOU SHOULD NOT ENTERTAIN ANY ATOM OF FEAR AS ALL REQUIRED ARRANGEMENTS HAS BEEN MADE FOR THE TRANSFER. YOU SHOULD CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THIS LETTER.* *Contact Email.;mohamedwaleed12@yahoo.com ** * *TRUSTING TO HEAR FROM YOU IMMEDIATELY.* *YOURS FAITHFULLY, MOHAMED WALEED BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER, BANK OF GHANA * --0015174be6d2ce3f180464834a04 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FROM THE DESK OF MR MOHAMED WALEED
BILL AND EXCHANGE=20 MANAGER,
BANK OF GHANA
ACCRA GHANA
WEST AFRICA.
DEAR FRIEND,
I KNOW THAT THIS LETTER MAY COME TO YOU AS A SURPRISE,I GO= T=20 YOUR CONTACT ADDRESS FROM THE GHANA CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WHILE I WAS SEARCHI= NG=20 FOR SOMEBODY THAT HAS SIMILAR NAME WITH OUR DECEASED=20 CUSTOMER.=A0I AM THE MANAGER OF BILL AND EXCHANGE= BANK=20 OF GHANA (B.O.G) AT FOREIGN REMITTANCE DEPARTMENT .THERE IS A BUSINESS I WO= ULD=20 WANT YOU TO CHAMPION FOR ME.IN MY DEPARTMENT W= E DISCOVERED AN ABANDONED SUM OF=20 ($ 16.500.000 U.S) SIXTEEN MILLION FIVE HUNDRED THOUSANDS US DOLLARS) . IN = AN=20 ACCOUNT THAT BELONGS TO ONE OF OUR FOREIGN CUSTOMER WHO DIED ALONG WITH HIS= =20 ENTIRE FAMILY IN 11TH SEPTEMBER 2003 IN A PLANE=20 CRASH.SINCE WE GOT INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DEATH, W= E=20 HAVE BEEN EXPECTING HIS NEXT OF KIN TO COME OVER AND CLAIM HIS MONEY BECAUS= E WE=20 CANNOTRELEASE IT UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR IT AS NEXT OF KIN OR RELATION = TO=20 THE DECEASED, AS INDICATED IN OUR BANKING GUIDELINES, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE= =20 LEARNT THAT ALL HIS SUPPOSED NEXT OF KIN'S OR RELATION DIED ALONG SIDE = WITH HIM=20 IN THE PLANE CRASH LEAVING NOBODY BEHIND FOR THE=20 CLAIM.=A0IT IS THEREFORE UPON THIS DISCOVERY THAT= I NOW=20 DECIDED TO MAKE THIS BUSINNESS PROPOSAL TO YOU AND RELEASE THE MONEY TO YOU= AS=20 THE NEXT OF KIN OR RELATION TO THE DECEASED FOR SAFETY AND SUBSEQUENT=20 DISBURSEMENT SINCE NOBODY IS COMING FOR IT AND I DONT WANT THIS MONEY TO GO= INTO=20 THE BANK TREASURY AS UNCLAIMED BILL.
THE BANKING LAW AND GUIDELINE HERE STIPULATES THAT IF SUCH= =20 MONEY REMAINED UNCLAIMED AFTER SIX YEARS, THE MONEY WILL BE TRANSFERED INTO= THE=20 BANK TREASURY AS UNCLAIMED FUND.=A0THE REQUEST OF= =20 FOREIGNER AS NEXT OF KIN IN THIS BUSINESS IS OCCASIONED BY THE FACT THAT TH= E=20 CUSTOMER WAS A FOREIGNER AND A GHANIAN CANNOT STAND AS NEXT OF KIN TO A=20 FOREIGNER. I AGREED THAT 20 % OF THIS MONEY WILL BE FOR YOU AS FOREIGN=20 PARTNER,=A0=A0IN RESPECT TO THE PROVISION OF A FO= REIGN=20 ACCOUNT, AND 10 % WILL BE SET ASIDE FOR EXPENSES INCURED DURING THE BUSINES= S AND=20 70 % WOULD BE FOR ME.THERE AFTER I WILL VISIT YOU= R=20 COUNTRY FOR DISBURSEMENT ACCORDING TO THE PERCENTAGES INDICATED. THEREFORE = TO=20 ENABLE THE IMMEDIATE TRANSFER OF THIS FUND TO YOU AS ARRANGED,YOU MUST APPL= Y=20 FIRST TO THE BANK AS RELATIONS OR NEXT OF KIN OF THE DECEASED INDICATING YO= UR=20 BANK NAME, YOUR
BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER, YOUR PRIVATE TELEPHONE AND FAX NUMB= ER=20 FOR EASY AND EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION AND LOCATION WHERE IN THE MONEY WILL B= E=20 REMITTED.=A0ALL MODALITIES OF THIS TRANSACTION HA= VE BEEN=20 CAREFULLY WORKED OUT AND ONCE STARTED WILL NOT TAKE MORE THAN FOURTEEN(14)= =20 WORKING DAYS, WITH YOUR FULL SUPPORT. THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% RISK FREE.IT=20 INVOLVE NO ANY IMPLICATION AND NO ANY PRECAUTION THERE AFTER.UPON RECEIPT O= F=20 YOUR REPLY, I WILL SEND TO YOU BY FAX OR EMAIL THE TEXT OF THE=20 APPLICATION.I WILL NOT FAIL TO BRING TO YOUR NOTI= CE=20 THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS HITCH FREE AND THAT YOU SHOULD NOT ENTERTAIN ANY A= TOM=20 OF FEAR AS ALL REQUIRED ARRANGEMENTS HAS BEEN MADE FOR THE TRANSFER. YOU SH= OULD=20 CONTACT ME IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS YOU RECEIVE THIS LETTER.
Contact Email.;mohamedwaleed12@yahoo= .com=A0=A0
TRUSTING=20 TO HEAR FROM YOU IMMEDIATELY.
YOURS FAITHFULLY,
MOHAMED WALEED
BILL AND EXCHANGE= =20 MANAGER,
BANK OF GHANA
--0015174be6d2ce3f180464834a04-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 10:47:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC5023BE7F; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236422836; bh=zp6FwF7tuE4klZHaeq9ypgiUt5jVmZGt+UyS2zAWxKc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WSmIS/wDAcppHIO/2eJ6pS/flJPAUUWiEtDBYb95OKVN70pJleeqI2lzRGdGF+/j48/eaw3ELKNv9dRonrQaE9NpxxBazUc10QwEZKP07W3L2fghoSvCT76NFNgQ5rKaWCeLBBDAOvctrtWS+uQ2SY2/VE5UmZCISpulF5cEgaA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ehg9eHf2PexN1K3t4NaVVryUC45dFp4QVcEg9TcNSOO8e78JNZ45mXwBfeDf7S+LtXMtw+zE6blKuCShj+ekphLbBojCA7emdWPpDNqfDecvDArgLYYjfCJAfiE/FqGjkdxfVKiQEMoqFBRWp2iOuqEqwqN3zLbSaRFy3SWzreM=; Message-ID: <505953.69866.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0rkZcR0VM1mkC2nuZJhnSBlzHxNu8dZpHjihnMzDLxrYFvIn_19ngexE49BQGj.QKK8pU.vSXTqlVNkSZxnKDrwTrmtEH7KeaImedMLNxFb8.wfJHCMNCzjr7.DtJBsVjfsqElwbjcGL4Nv0zHSYC88wdh9HbNOnQXW4L7pkd13M1ixlt1tRylMDKu7p X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 02:47:16 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: electrix MO-FX To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B1869D.3050304@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:47:17 +0000 (UTC) yes it is too bad that Electrix didnt keep it up... and i am selling my Mo FX as we speak (tears rolling down my cheek) Hey Rick by the way bro you have an amazing collection of FX at your place!are u planing on keeping them to some day build an FX museum;-? but what i find funny is that in your collection i didnt see many 60s and 70s efx,were you not interested in FX back then? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: electrix MO-FX > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 12:25 PM > Michael wrote: > ".....i had never messed with the "band" > buttons in the past but with a bit of experimentaion this > turns out to be a very useful tool, kept me off the streets > for an evening!.....so make a loop and send it into the MO > and change up the "band" buttons and see what > happens.....perhaps i'm the last person to discover > this, if so, i'm sorry to waste your time but if you > haven't played with this, give it a shot, you may find > it useful....." > > > Yeah, equalization is a really powerful sculptor of > sound. > Frankly, I'm surprised that more stomp box pedals > aren't made that just have interesting twists on > equalizing things in real time. > There is a dearth of equalizers that can be used > rhythmically in real time. > > I used to record a constantly swelling , dark, deep > 20" crash cymbal into my Electrix Repeater and then > turn the volume off, > radically switch it's eq on my Mackie 1402VLZ board and > then swell the sounds up just to mute them on downbeats. > > It's a great and simple effect and gives one, in > essence, a constant 'noise' source to play with > rhythmically. > > I especially love that the Electrix MoFX and Filter Factory > had huge drum machine style buttons, intended to be hammered > on that > would either mute the effect when it was turned on, or > temporarily turn the effect on when it was turned off. > > There's an endless source of 'drummistic' > possibilities to be had by rhythmically playing an effect in > this way. > > I was sad that the Electrix EQ killer was never made into a > larger unit with that type of functionality. > > Usually melodic instrumentalists don't explore this > kind of territory because it precludes being able to play > your axe with > two hands but when you put the effect after your looper > then it's a great trick to use, especially if you have > a 2nd looper later in your chain. > > Currently, I"m running a DL4 at the start of my > pedal board , a DL4 at the end (for resampling or using as > a digital delay) > and then all of that into the Looperlative for major > mangling. > > In between, I have my DOD Buzz Box and my Zvez Fuzz > Factory and frequently I just toggle these rhythmically > with my feet to create cool new rhythmic loops. > > In fact, in my Aether Engine, noise and rhythm project > which I'm debuting live this coming Monday (boy, am I > nervous!!) > I'm mostly using distortion, EQ and rhythm to make the > lions share of the music. > > I allowed myself a marching bass drum and a marching snare > drum and some assorted pieces of metal > to augment my Strat and my Robelli 12 string electric bass > guitar. > > Let's hear it for equalization. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 13:56:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B00B3BE7E; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:56:24 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1236433783; bh=PHWsPOoW2umsZ2hYKsdra71ug3iaN2OKDKLVI5ySlYo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5+bNu989yUgGabc2Q4A9+vb/djJoaS5ky3Az2Pn47Xu0fA4RQNdnHIoHYd9VV5Rl2+/48SH7qNHJGc0SNLZzVxFsloRYCwwF7ZRtwXjW0hvyXyZcqWrt1VnYjavPvH+DmhKmTbMFD/Ao4Yc+OGdjVSjmQSralww9RXmc451pUBM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S81+JsCYSdzgFJ9+OmRRqxtTw62SYpW9EKPqLIccQD5KZ21+Qban73Fr7KtFRaKf8t7gMH/YuUfDv6WMNwHzu0ZBvmBcE+PlhFNCTQIdDGqSEdnql0LVBP06ozjgztOLm3YSywY1XhMbB1h/JFKVfoE936VrCrxSuFqZnWNp2p4=; Message-ID: <901995.24218.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6x8ovzgVM1m8Ec0iSdWimyTK5qQUQ0Ta5TY07fmgKEBoQ4Y2vFTTNxnPcrTPGrMgllGYrXl0v9glWdGt4YQlURaHsRYlxy2B2t8JYHI3Gcq9LZ5YV7fNVev_03uRNBJTACv5N25N6zePExazR5wUythVNoP6E1yat7ZQKMmTGoVcIlgir.Bww0QdT4GqnA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:49:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Rhod Evans Subject: First post - newbie advice wanted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-380607337-1236433783=:24218" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 13:56:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-380607337-1236433783=:24218 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all=0A=0AI hope you'll bear with me as I explain the advice I need...=0A= =0AI have been playing in bands (mostly rock and blues) for more years than= I want to recall ( 3 decades plus) but after a fall out with a couple of m= embers of my recent band I've decided to sod 'em and go solo. I have a goo= d rock/blues voice (I've been compared to Paul Rogers of Free, which is ver= y flattering but I'll never be THAT good!). I'm also reasonably competent = on guitar, so my idea is to have drum sample and possibly bass midi backing= , then play rhythm, lead and sing over the top of it. I was going to use A= bleton Live for this with a Laptop, but it seems ridiculously complicated f= or the simple and gritty style of music I'm aiming for - I also play bottle= neck, so there will definitely be a bluesy bias.=0A=0AThen I discovered the= Jamman, and that seems ideal - pre-record drum and bass loops in LIVE, dow= nload to the Jamman, then on stage play and record rhythm guitar verse/chor= us whilst singing over the top of it, then loop and play lead guitar, harmo= nica or whatever and sing over the top of it.=0A=0AHowever I notice that mo= st of you seem to prefer the Echoplex. Am I missing something here? As fa= r as I can tell the Echoplex doesn't have the ability to download pre-recor= ded loops (no way of storing them?) so I would be severely at a disadvantag= e - how it be possible to get 3 sets worth of prepared music onto it? I'm = not worried about the cost - it's more important that I get the right kit, = as I have gigs waiting.=0A=0AAny advice on which you think I should go for = would be much appreciated. Also any thoughts on the practicality or otherw= ise of my idea.=0A=0AThanks=0A=0AFor info, I also have a PA, 12 input mixer= , Fender guitar amp, 2 guitars, pedals etc, and a TC Helicon 'VoiceLive' wh= ich is a vocal processor able to produce harmonies on the fly and which has= reverb, compression, noise gate etc.=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-380607337-1236433783=:24218 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all

I hope you'll bear with me as I explain the advice I = need...

I have been playing in bands (mostly rock and blues) for mor= e years than I want to recall ( 3 decades plus) but after a fall out with a= couple of members of my recent band I've decided to sod 'em and go solo.&n= bsp; I have a good rock/blues voice (I've been compared to Paul Rogers of F= ree, which is very flattering but I'll never be THAT good!).  I'm also= reasonably competent on guitar, so my idea is to have drum sample and poss= ibly bass midi backing, then play rhythm, lead and sing over the top of it.=   I was going to use Ableton Live for this with a Laptop, but it seems= ridiculously complicated for the simple and gritty style of music I'm aimi= ng for - I also play bottleneck, so there will definitely be a bluesy bias.

Then I discovered the Jamman, and that seems ideal - pre-reco= rd drum and bass loops in LIVE, download to the Jamman, then on stage play = and record rhythm guitar verse/chorus whilst singing over the top of it, th= en loop and play lead guitar, harmonica or whatever and sing over the top o= f it.

However I notice that most of you seem to prefer the Echoplex.=   Am I missing something here?  As far as I can tell the Echoplex= doesn't have the ability to download pre-recorded loops (no way of storing= them?) so I would be severely at a disadvantage - how it be possible to ge= t 3 sets worth of prepared music onto it?  I'm not worried about the c= ost - it's more important that I get the right kit, as I have gigs waiting.=

Any advice on which you think I should go for would be much appreci= ated.  Also any thoughts on the practicality or otherwise of my idea.<= br>
Thanks

For info, I also have a PA, 12 input mixer, Fender guitar amp, 2 guitars, pedals etc, and a TC Helicon 'VoiceLive' whi= ch is a vocal processor able to produce harmonies on the fly and which has = reverb, compression, noise gate etc.

=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A = --0-380607337-1236433783=:24218-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 15:31:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 986213BE7F; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:31:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236439881; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=bXOn+WT4UzJFQAZhsVSOoqDrkxs=; b=qpHk5GlbW1PzdLVoPzAO1wY08NAm6TtYCSRrUbRSGuYM8vTs8l/PiccsrkiOMZwv uDLox0HxFhWfbpC0301q5SJsYSd+Mv8lf+bM3LdDXAtfryMTeRyV+PBTNrBhZA/b; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ElLiJXUz5AwA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=AvgyH5LBu1AOThGog5YA:9 a=aclTy8lIV6voUpzFGK0n0Egc1jwA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=BrDiTsk0AAAA:8 a=0DhbqFfCIEKvOH9sJ4gA:9 a=cPgf88AwLjaE_xVRHqcA:7 a=C09AbBDpBPmfuHAMEbONnY4JBqEA:4 a=ct1jHBItfXcA:10 a=-hJg1tCh9CgA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c99f39$7b0c3680$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <901995.24218.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: First post - newbie advice wanted Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:29:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C99F0F.91BC91B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <0sKPjD.A.BEH.KNpsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:31:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C99F0F.91BC91B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rhod,=20 The Digitech Jamman might be what you want as it stores loops and you = can build a backing band. You can use several memory cards also for = different sets. The reason I don't use one is that it's not for building = a song live. You have to stop it and "save" before going to the next = loop. If you build your song catalog up ahead of time then it would = probably do what you want. Once saved you can move forward and back = through the different loops. You can add to these live but I'm not sure = if you can then move to the next loop before saving again. I play improv = unstructured stuff so I need feedback (loops fading) so I use other = loopers (Boss DD 20, EH 2880). I would be sure and try one out if = possible. And the optional footswitch is essential. There is some good = stuff on it at=20 http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/digitech_jamman/digitech_jamman.html= happy looping, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Rhod Evans=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:49 AM Subject: First post - newbie advice wanted Hi all I hope you'll bear with me as I explain the advice I need... I have been playing in bands (mostly rock and blues) for more years = than I want to recall ( 3 decades plus) but after a fall out with a = couple of members of my recent band I've decided to sod 'em and go solo. = I have a good rock/blues voice (I've been compared to Paul Rogers of = Free, which is very flattering but I'll never be THAT good!). I'm also = reasonably competent on guitar, so my idea is to have drum sample and = possibly bass midi backing, then play rhythm, lead and sing over the top = of it. I was going to use Ableton Live for this with a Laptop, but it = seems ridiculously complicated for the simple and gritty style of music = I'm aiming for - I also play bottleneck, so there will definitely be a = bluesy bias. Then I discovered the Jamman, and that seems ideal - pre-record drum = and bass loops in LIVE, download to the Jamman, then on stage play and = record rhythm guitar verse/chorus whilst singing over the top of it, = then loop and play lead guitar, harmonica or whatever and sing over the = top of it. However I notice that most of you seem to prefer the Echoplex. Am I = missing something here? As far as I can tell the Echoplex doesn't have = the ability to download pre-recorded loops (no way of storing them?) so = I would be severely at a disadvantage - how it be possible to get 3 sets = worth of prepared music onto it? I'm not worried about the cost - it's = more important that I get the right kit, as I have gigs waiting. Any advice on which you think I should go for would be much = appreciated. Also any thoughts on the practicality or otherwise of my = idea. Thanks For info, I also have a PA, 12 input mixer, Fender guitar amp, 2 = guitars, pedals etc, and a TC Helicon 'VoiceLive' which is a vocal = processor able to produce harmonies on the fly and which has reverb, = compression, noise gate etc. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C99F0F.91BC91B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hi Rhod,
The Digitech Jamman might be what you = want as it=20 stores loops and you can build a backing band. You can use several = memory cards=20 also for different sets. The reason I don't use one is that it's not for = building a song live. You have to stop it and "save" before going to the = next=20 loop. If you build your song catalog up ahead of time then it would = probably do=20 what you want. Once saved you can move forward and back through the = different=20 loops. You can add to these live but I'm not sure if you can then move = to the=20 next loop before saving again. I play improv unstructured stuff so I = need=20 feedback (loops fading) so I use other loopers (Boss DD 20, EH 2880). I = would be=20 sure and try one out if possible. And the optional footswitch is = essential.=20 There is some good stuff on it at
http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/digitech_jamman/digitech_j= amman.html
 
happy looping,
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rhod=20 Evans
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 = 8:49=20 AM
Subject: First post - newbie = advice=20 wanted

Hi all

I hope you'll bear with me as I explain the advice = I=20 need...

I have been playing in bands (mostly rock and blues) = for more=20 years than I want to recall ( 3 decades plus) but after a fall out = with a=20 couple of members of my recent band I've decided to sod 'em and go = solo. =20 I have a good rock/blues voice (I've been compared to Paul Rogers of = Free,=20 which is very flattering but I'll never be THAT good!).  I'm also = reasonably competent on guitar, so my idea is to have drum sample and = possibly=20 bass midi backing, then play rhythm, lead and sing over the top of = it.  I=20 was going to use Ableton Live for this with a Laptop, but it seems=20 ridiculously complicated for the simple and gritty style of music I'm = aiming=20 for - I also play bottleneck, so there will definitely be a bluesy=20 bias.

Then I discovered the Jamman, and that seems ideal - = pre-record=20 drum and bass loops in LIVE, download to the Jamman, then on stage = play and=20 record rhythm guitar verse/chorus whilst singing over the top of it, = then loop=20 and play lead guitar, harmonica or whatever and sing over the top of=20 it.

However I notice that most of you seem to prefer the=20 Echoplex.  Am I missing something here?  As far as I can = tell the=20 Echoplex doesn't have the ability to download pre-recorded loops (no = way of=20 storing them?) so I would be severely at a disadvantage - how it be = possible=20 to get 3 sets worth of prepared music onto it?  I'm not worried = about the=20 cost - it's more important that I get the right kit, as I have gigs=20 waiting.

Any advice on which you think I should go for would be = much=20 appreciated.  Also any thoughts on the practicality or otherwise = of my=20 idea.

Thanks

For info, I also have a PA, 12 input mixer, = Fender=20 guitar amp, 2 guitars, pedals etc, and a TC Helicon 'VoiceLive' which = is a=20 vocal processor able to produce harmonies on the fly and which has = reverb,=20 compression, noise gate = etc.

------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C99F0F.91BC91B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 15:31:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81BF93BE7F; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=XBMN8Q3x82dhbQeTsEuLHlwhhF3kb5RHoWoN1Em1Pes=; b=tE2HrNOFXoL3Cy3J85q88sJEf71BOdh1quoo2/goEH4R9DwSbXUXhbcq9tXG0QdNJj wLcOwPyA/2rgu6wlxj3EgLjZxOR4JQ/I9uYDTTP/G3lQdhFrX8Rslu86N5Kkb9DvxoMz mOyLErad9Ie0mqEnyqsdPg3C9szJwOO0/owQA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QDq1kEdAlNtIDtNHyAZFCQCVNSeHf+3q+QGadGPAK9N3FeUqjiH2YQdiE4fCZPEsNL mr/N2oJEyd1R9Vm61oEq5fpY+u/RTKf1wfY1LzEQ1ToJIs0zB2FH0QL3y1k3+Hy9f9k8 BuPiEXR2s+IWT3orvyDcIvXDNn8anLct3PZbU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <901995.24218.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <901995.24218.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 07:31:30 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: First post - newbie advice wanted From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <_JLNz.A.XIH.UNpsJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:31:32 +0000 (UTC) A lot of people who loop don't use pre-recorded loops, they make them on the spot. When the EDP was first introduced, memory was really, really expensive (around $800 for 16MB--that's MEGAbytes, not Terabtyes), and neither USB nor Firewire had been invented yet, so there weren't cheap high-speed storage technologies available for musical gear. Keyboardists were lugging around Zip disks and big, slow SCSI drives. The EDP has tons of performance-oriented features that have been developed over several versions of the software which make it really good for improv style looping, and less so for band-minus-one type applications, which is where the JamMan pedal really shines. TH On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 5:49 AM, Rhod Evans wrote= : > Then I discovered the Jamman, and that seems ideal - pre-record drum and > bass loops in LIVE, download to the Jamman, then on stage play and record > rhythm guitar verse/chorus whilst singing over the top of it, then loop a= nd > play lead guitar, harmonica or whatever and sing over the top of it. > > However I notice that most of you seem to prefer the Echoplex.=A0 Am I mi= ssing > something here?=A0 As far as I can tell the Echoplex doesn't have the abi= lity > to download pre-recorded loops (no way of storing them?) so I would be > severely at a disadvantage - how it be possible to get 3 sets worth of > prepared music onto it?=A0 I'm not worried about the cost - it's more > important that I get the right kit, as I have gigs waiting. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 16:21:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 272B73BE78; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:21:35 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19wMe0heqFwGbddbgk+6cMPr5O0aOgrDqe/7NaPRr 2RlM1JLTHn9i8owafTP7R644QsPTp++iepLQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: PeWHIap6ZDIrFMcogWc2Gyd5emhmYwHN X-FuHaFi: 0.74 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:21:37 +0000 (UTC) > without screen or keyboard. What a compact solution, just this little > box! I've been thinking about this, too. The question is: would you really have the guts to take this on a performance w/out screen/keyboard? Can you be certain nothing will screw up where you have to quickly intervene? An Iphone etc. wouldn't assure me. Frankly, I wouldn't dare and would always take a backup screen/keyboard for my setup. Let's see: small computer, screen, keyboard... sounds like a laptop to me!! ;-) Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 16:54:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2D503BE7E; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236444849; bh=Unb9MvWpkhXw8PpXk+aq/KVysm5gzw0OR1MUnEGv1cw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GFEquJ2dATVJXGGzASEwIknPlfkmgcwrStoBtJQA9hTKMdwo89K7W3+76lTlpCsox8wnQyRQsyfcr3tD+aKb9QTGZBuxXyGMjY5/I9ZQ4jGD/n1fqC3T2AwGxR3JpARVkdqyMFAHZ75aCngUD/Bj2QbML0u1jIqPEMMQTcyIG8o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C5X6OqheveTPr4cbhG9cCpXcJQ/t14359biJgnPPqLWSHydJwfFgOk7SPOUXYZb6rKUOQGsbps+dIRc+wb8ahIpwv9MjkxFcvND90yXhThjqAz2WSEamp0CTEYOa3gMKsp6cG/RWwgS1aEcHn9nkJfqXcf0dnmtAgqhmsUvdIMw=; Message-ID: <969227.39483.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CNeG1PwVM1mzYZM19rONLUYtJi66V6n66vsU7Ukk61I5RATLenQLaS3ky7exLiCTUqzEnSat7g3gVZHMOtWlegWhKptQeLP7oMAPRul6L5DXxdpyLSuDgXmYh4OeeWBOzQKcBudlzLKqp4KrVXmjrAUhqdBfCyKrq6e680WLE4k.YWPPxF6eBsYEVLEmQ43MdBp2dAgy.8KzQNCh7GdsKpz4NkkNc_yNdJFprKw- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:54:09 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Presonus problem To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi people, for those of you using the Presonus Firebox: I turned on my laptop with presonus conected and all of the sudden the soundcard is not recognized and a solid red light stays on.Ive reie everything,changed FW cables,reinstalled drivers,etc. but nothing.Is there a way to internally reset it or has anybody had this problem? thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 17:02:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D95C3BE7E; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:02:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: , "Loopers Delight" References: <969227.39483.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Presonus problem Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:02:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:02:34 +0000 (UTC) I did. I sent the Firebox to Presonus. They fixed it and sent it back. I know that isn't what you want to hear, but that is what it took for me to get it working again. Bob Amstadt From a.mrusman16@msn.com Sat Mar 7 17:24:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 17:24:54 UTC Received: from bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.101]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A583BE70 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY118-W41 ([207.46.8.204]) by bay0-omc1-s29.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:19:53 -0800 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_68d1555f-f7ff-45d1-a91f-0b0fd8f5a437_" X-Originating-IP: [41.203.228.205] Reply-To: From: Mr Usman Adu Subject: TREAT AS URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL. Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:19:53 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2009 17:19:53.0411 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDDFF930:01C99F48] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_68d1555f-f7ff-45d1-a91f-0b0fd8f5a437_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TREAT AS URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL. >From The Desk Of Mr Usman Adu. Bill And Exchange Manager Bank Of Africa Ouagadougou-Burkina Faso. Tel. 0022676738933. =20 Dear Friend=2C =20 I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance department = of BANK OF AFRICA.I am writting to seek your coperation over this business = deal.In my department=2C I discovered an abandoned sum of $14.6million USD = (Fourteen Million six hundred thousand United States Dollars) only=2C in an= account that belongs to one of our foreign customers who died along with h= is entire family in a plane crash that took place in Kenya=2CEast Africa=2C= the Late DR. GEORGE BRUMLEY=2Ca citizen of Atlanta=2C United States of Amer= ica but naturalised in Burkinafaso=2C West Africa and contractor with ECOWA= S=2C(ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF WEST AFRICAN STATES). =20 Since we got information about his death=2C we have been expecting his next= of kin to come over and claim his money because it cannot be release dunle= ss somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as in= dicated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately=2C all his supposed nex= t of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nob= ody behind for the claim. 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From The Desk Of Mr Usman Adu.Bill And Exchange Manager
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I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance depart= ment of BANK OF AFRICA.I am writting to seek your coperation over this busi= ness deal.In my department=2C I discovered an abandoned sum of $14.6million= USD (Fourteen Million six hundred thousand United States Dollars) only=2C = in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customers who died along w= ith his entire family in a plane crash that took place in Kenya=2CEast Afri= ca=2Cthe Late DR. GEORGE BRUMLEY=2Ca citizen of Atlanta=2C United States of= America but naturalised in Burkinafaso=2C West Africa and contractor with = ECOWAS=2C(ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF WEST AFRICAN STATES).
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Since we got information about his death=2C we have been expecting his= next of kin to come over and claim his money because it cannot be release = dunless somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased = as indicated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately=2C all his suppose= d next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leavin= g nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that i n= ow decided to make this businness proposal to you and release the money to = you via your foreign bank account as the next of kin or relation to the dec= eased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it = and this money could go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill.
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The Banking law and guideline here stipulate that if such money remain= ed unclaimed after =3B 7 years=2C the money will be transfered into the= Bank's treasury as unclaimed fund.The request for your assistance and maxi= mum co-operation as a foreign citizen to stand as the next of kin in this b= usiness is occasioned by the fact that the deceased customer was a foreigne= r and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.40 % of this m= oney will be for you as my foreign partner=2Cin respect to the provision of= a foreign account. 5 % will be set aside for expenses incured during the b= usiness and 55 % would be for me.There after I will come over to your count= ry for disbursement of the fund according to the percentages indicated.
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Therefore to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arra= nged=2Cyou must apply first to the bank as the relation or next of kin to&n= bsp=3B the deceased=2Cindicating your claims and wherein the money will be = remitted. Upon receipt of your reply=2C I will send to you by fax or email = the text of application which you will fill and forward to the office of th= e foreign remittance director of the bank of africa. I will not fail to bri= ng to your notice that this transaction is strictly confidential and i will= use my position in this Bank to effect a hitch free transfer of the fund.Y= ou should contact me immediately as soon as you receive this letter on my p= rivate phone number: 0022676738933. Trusting to hear from you immediately.P= lease visit the website below for more information about the death of the d= eceased and his entire family=2C Late DR. GEORGE =3B BRUMLEY. =3B&n= bsp=3B
 =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B = =3B =3B  =3Bhttp://www.cnn.com/200= 3/WORLD/africa/07/20/kenyacrash/index.html
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Yours Faithfully=2C
Mr Usman Adu
= --_68d1555f-f7ff-45d1-a91f-0b0fd8f5a437_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 17:25:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 786203BE7E; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nN2K91va9d5+vqQkLuHm+NsDhaM01X8HBxbylxIQOI4=; b=icHwUQrxv3F7W0dsTbVBNu8fEwCTfIxsmqi4DYAKyS05jNfiirQU4k8urPYPnNxNWz mqlkC9neQd2Z4mmTr1flkG0Ue+AAxyADlaJJTtaXe4K1G3U2JdWmA9EjiarQ2l6VJ1WD COs23svUU7GN6mMOmFMWug6kZ7Aruyzm9cJuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zy5cJeGTLVObtlXtD2UngOX1a6whPLA6p10Vg/jBsvHyb0Q6fWcybTWGbUJAe77hqt 6j+9nWTseVewLcE8/SubR4f6Klbv+tkTmuA3/DkxkwCBfq+JacHffGBRcXDBB6By7lRG SfaOjAch7puFHOa2y9kavdP4wGs0hkL4BQuIQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:25:04 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:25:06 +0000 (UTC) ... seems they renewed the other models as well, imac and pro ... 2009/3/7 Buzap Buzap : > >> without screen or keyboard. What a compact solution, just this little >> box! > > I've been thinking about this, too. The question is: would you really hav= e the guts to take this on a performance w/out screen/keyboard? > Can you be certain nothing will screw up where you have to quickly interv= ene? An Iphone etc. wouldn't assure me. > > Frankly, I wouldn't dare and would always take a backup screen/keyboard f= or my setup. Let's see: small computer, screen, keyboard... sounds like a l= aptop to me!! ;-) > > Buzap > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen= : http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 > > --=20 Raul Bonell at blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 17:31:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 447CC3BE7C; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <901995.24218.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <901995.24218.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <3251fee0e319dc29f3aea4404ac4a437@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: First post - newbie advice wanted Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:31:14 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 17:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Rhod, I don't know squat about the current capabilities of the Jamman - I=20 figure others can advise you there. Without having the precise bluesy musical goal you have, I have done=20 essentially what you are after by various means over the years=20 technically. Along with the various loopers I have owned and used for the "live=20 looping" thang, I have sometimes found it useful to have canned loops=20 as well. Back in the pre-desktop computer '80s I used keyboard samplers to=20 record an array of rhythmic loop snippets across the whole range of=20 keys and had a latching "hold pedal" to enable me to use it as a=20 "phrase" sampler before such a thing was invented. That was a rather unwieldy solution for me as a guitarist - believe you=20= me. Later on, when those phrase and/or groove samplers came out (from=20 Raoland, Akai, Korg and others) I traded my keyboards in. I've now have owned both Akai and Roland boxes and have found them all=20= quite usefull in their own ways (and also with each their own peculiar=20= shortcomings). I can guess that for you, it might be tempting (for simplicity's sake)=20= to try to get ONE DEVICE that does both things you want to do. But consider this . . . sometimes it pays off in the end to have TWO=20 DEVICES that each does its job really well rather than just one that=20 does a half-assed job at both (or of one of them as an afterthought). As far as hardware loopers go, the EDP and LP-1 (among few others) are=20= without peer for all the editing and slicing and dicing you can do=20 right there on stage as you are making your live loops. They are complicated, but they are capable . . . and fun. That's why so many of us on the LD list use them (I've been an EDP user=20= since '96 BTW). I don't know, but I suspect, that the ability of a certain device to=20 add in the capability to save in and play a lot of different canned=20 loops (enough for a whole set or two of songs) will short-change you in=20= some other aspect further down the line. On the other hand, using any of the small phrase samplers out on the=20 market would give similar benefits (in some of them at least) because=20 you could definitely save lots and lots of loops and also edit and=20 effect those on-board canned loops on the fly as you play. Plus, some of those phrase samplers (say a used Roland SP-303) can be=20 had easily and cheaply on Ebay. They are small, light and unobtrusive on stage - and you can work out=20 the bugs and match musical keys and BPMs on your computer at home=20 before you load them. If you really want a ONE DEVICE solution that really does a thorough=20 job at what you want to accomplish, a laptop with Abelton Live is=20 probably the answer. But I'd suggest that if laptops and software seem overly complicated,=20 you may find it better to get TWO DEVICES - one that is a full-featured=20= live looper of some sort (that you will be happy with for a long time),=20= and the other a full-featured groove/phrase sampler of some sort (with=20= some opportunity for flexibility and creativity beyond just being a=20 simple beat box). I guess it all depends on how "deep" you want to get into it. Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn Creativity represents a miraculous coming together of the uninhibited=20 energy of the child with its apparent opposite and enemy, the sense of=20= order imposed on the disciplined adult intelligence. =96 Norman = Podhoretz http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 18:00:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D36FF3BE7E; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=okj9EttzqlpgfM1LhLTqsj36YFcwO+NyDkbeRRV0XGI=; b=NVTWA/k/lL0MADJbo2dG3CSvGRKv704SKHAoXvo6x4PemkAjHTSKK7LnNDRfdttWdF oW5f1vSSZC2/h/5BofW93DZgEnngnXvUj1vi3JHJJWFnf+9DklUxVLdcE8RnugU3iFMu cJ/u6yGl7xQ+O9Y0RYFtGVZdxcuBu8FM13vVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=a7ZprmNYAHXs8yzlZryxP3wn30gwbM7o8Y+gQCoF14RolCOhNKA4Cli/nSXvQa0XwJ VONy7cK9AYrX8TkX8DvKQL8FnAkCiw/Z9XQHyI1+AlmTGFTt2AL73pr/vemOsQl6ZHCN HeBoIo4rd6qvHnUsr2pcCi5qyNUFCLnYBa1EQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 19:00:25 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Well, in my vision the iPhone would be for programming when not at stage. For looping I would rely on MIDI as usual, the trusted FCB pedal and similar. Why would the looper software crash then if it doesn't crash now? I rarely use the screen anyway when playing so I could as well leave it behind. When looping with only hardware boxes (EDP, Repeater, Boss....) I've never missed the screen either. If something should go wrong you simply reboot. That's what I've always done with my EDP when its software crashes. Easy and still no need for a screen. Can't see why a Mac Mini would react different; if set up to auto-launch the looper on boot-up. This seems a way more attractive box than those "standalone VST players". Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> without screen or keyboard. What a compact solution, just this little >> box! > > I've been thinking about this, too. The question is: would you really have the guts to take this on a performance w/out screen/keyboard? > Can you be certain nothing will screw up where you have to quickly intervene? An Iphone etc. wouldn't assure me. > > Frankly, I wouldn't dare and would always take a backup screen/keyboard for my setup. Let's see: small computer, screen, keyboard... sounds like a laptop to me!! ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 18:02:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AA7F3BE78; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236448970; bh=BoaM25fK33c6pPXQFiRersF7hXsei2MwhigMeKLzqH0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZZqnUpmQ9di72SDN5X8LBssHbCwzv3JLj5reCe3V11EDDlr1jYfXUeOUVFyaUHc3Q1wTWyILPoTJx2Mr7hDl7JNNNK8z5llTArSvvBHMotQvMGDU94jXob2wr6t3BjOd4M9VdDoigL6DGImhFYmjbS7clbZbvXeOskxzlqexfz0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GZ28ETDCewFUcR3ktSysif49owwTEwhcVKwe8WvRXAvNoGxocw3SHM64j3bpWqxxzoImAmqmMkvPN5kMioC9pCWUI1YikzsBRCbA7jUxYklgXvXC+HOp4N32MyvTGWpf5DtODI4AVWkSf2laP+eSscs23twILci6UEf/2ULtC10=; Message-ID: <632862.14189.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hR338.cVM1l0rR6EqtQX36DTc_aDrIijKaGVWlUnYe_kWOnKVwiV8r9TBfTI7TPg_WCltTCZ4PHgbyaIl3s4027z8X9lO8_k0PRvLqQTpP2TJclj4_fBsUk4RAB7RGBYgnyoRpyq6bMCeLYJSosk_5wBnRj8rBoWr6x2RNgVi2FZZvJaFPemxuDXLGFrQAr26QAOqo67uptlg09rTiKdOSrPj7tyKYQwYA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:02:50 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Presonus problem To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 18:02:51 +0000 (UTC) ok Bob thanx,i hope they repair it here in germany (gotta look for a presonus repair service adress)since i bought it last october in the U.S. cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > From: Bob Amstadt > Subject: Re: Presonus problem > To: labaloops@yahoo.com, "Loopers Delight" > Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 9:02 AM > I did. I sent the Firebox to Presonus. They fixed it and > sent it back. I know that isn't what you want to hear, > but that is what it took for me to get it working again. > > Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 7 22:37:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46FD63BE78; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B2F724.9030803@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:37:24 -0800 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: electrix MO-FX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Luis Angulo wrote: *"Hey Rick by the way bro you have an amazing collection of FX at your place!are u planing on keeping them to some day build an FX museum;-? but what i find funny is that in your collection i didnt see many 60s and 70s efx,were you not interested in FX back then?"* Well, I've been a drummer for 41 years and a percussionist for 30 years so I had to spend some time actually learning how to play those instruments before I got into all this stomp box nonsense. Seriously, though, I've always loved production and knowing how sounds were made in records and at live gigs. I'm also what you could call an exoti-philic. I just love new things and new sounds. Early on this resulted in me trying to find every unusual percussion instrument, drum and cymbal that I could, but I saw UltraVox early on (late 70's) which was the first time I ever saw someone use a drum machine live with a drummer and it just rocked my world and I became fascinated by drum machines and drum synthesizers. I also loved analogue synths from the moment I heard them. I just didn't have the money to buy them and, viz a vis stomp box pedals, In Tao Chemical in the early 80'I discovered that if I put my cheesy cheap Casio keyboard through guitar effects pedals that it sounded like a synthesizer. In this way, I could to make new exotic sounds. Champagne living on a Beer budget. I also have to say that my brother has always been a pioneer.......way ahead of the curve in effects processing so I got to learn a lot by just watching what he bought. He was amazing, he'd buy something that I thought was the cats meow; play it for six months; discover something else and sell the first thing to afford the second one. He went through so many different combinations of effects, guitars, amps, strings. Whenever he posts here dispensing guitar wisdom about gear I listen up because his knowledge is so deep. We both share that almost compulsive desire to know as much as we can about a music object. I purchased every single drum head on the market; every single die cast and triple flanged rim, every normal and synthetic stick, every mallet, every brush ;every material of drum shell...............all one by one , just to really deeply know what was out there and how it sounded.........what was the best for what situation. This makes it sound like I had a lot of money to spend. Au Contraire! I spent every dime I made on equipment......still do, to this day. It's not very practical, but I just had to know. You know? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 00:23:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FD733BE7C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 00:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236471799; bh=vzjbTYQRzvRXkm0YuRUxZEGUW8eRfWGxd14SueCg/rM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TsS03Uq0ZEAT4rfyRYrOIqBy5umIvihLOJWVVs3UscA5EozKZmljAtWC4SVZrXhiRYKLkTAJVXvJYr8Zi+ltFgaklsq3ym1KnI+jltdj7f7GkFhgOSyFO5wemEXUkyqz3q1zkJIlTDniBLuVxV9mOLEXSzIt66Mwflshb1wDbE8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W6Ej0IBrueAaFmSCMcO8l8PhpdlaTXL6+5kIk7mZXMqYVFDVMnAsGg5jfUGcc6HqdoorcDjTGM7TCxhejXDmpF16ygP6sfkUIziHduKPjWOwjPSQ9k2UPcikpmVgu6FycyDJeSj5CPfk1lH3oYiiHxQgJrfj0Tm605rZ8o+E3fU=; Message-ID: <34054.37281.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: h57KUbcVM1koUpTR69Vxu3UmakpvOtRCC_KTrfs7d64Sr3Z8aJ.RR0U4ZHvag5rMoHExlbbgMXXv4Bm6MI8J46yNaDzFx_L8wo0CqSsHR7693Kt7Aa6TUQKlTo1U4SgLBKDBdTwrYtvDgA8.y0PrfWN7_A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:23:18 -0800 (PST) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: electrix MO-FX To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B2F724.9030803@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 00:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Yes i think we all suffer bad from this desease! Luis > Au Contraire! I spent every dime I made on > equipment......still do, to this day. > It's not very practical, but I just had to know. You > know? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 07:56:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1413BE78; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IMHayElDYv1je+yMWx0J4k/YRwTVY+7ATVi1+UvIcrU=; b=Ij9ty8yTWvoeAkONFP/MXZxyftn6O1s3uhO0J+tZmZCxfhXLcB95QnXUa4yb5nnwpT A8KdWjXyNMyGNctYiqveBTmrui0ravQzhS55viJ9sxdN4w0gXfEEUG09l8sh2Ip6tVdj Hy2s8RFEmMZLZdCXGJcR66/Nz3x+1Ua24Mz7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=kQvmIUK5t07WjeQjn5Vd+OckTyWzK9sigvjcwgFaekkj43kP8qquTp60QnzZM6noXu Gy5e7g70evhV05RXfYWC4KDkcuyLIk3J1IaNwiDWzuTg1GBrpQm7ZKzlZwNx2dE/+MUJ dqhc2mPaM/OI/3KtTNFHh4emytosXHJISWpxw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:56:03 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5e8d9ed46edc43bf Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> Subject: GAIN STRUCTURE From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d5094c7a281f046496d90c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:56:04 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d5094c7a281f046496d90c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK,, technical people... I have never been very good at technical stuff, despite having enough gear to launch a shuttle. So now i want a technical 101 type course in getting a good gain structure in my gear. I just took receipt of a new EDP and got it up and running synched with the old edp (Jeez.. easy peazy and OMG what potential... having 2 EDP's is way more useful than having 2 EDPS) As planned I took out a 3 U mixer from my rack and put in its place a 1 U (both behringer I'm afraid, cant afford anything else). Now, for some reason, the 2 EDP's are completely different sounding (old one is kinda muddy and bassy, loses top), and the thing is that I just cant get a good level without distortion on the loop (too high level going in) or too low and hissy. Now some of the hissyness appears to be the effects that each EDP is going thru, (a red sound federation, on edp1 and a Roland EF303 on edp2) But each EDP only has ONE effect to go thru... surely that must be OK??? So now I have SO MANY input level controls on my system, something is causing distortion I dont know how to start... heres the signal chain. 1. From guitar (first a few stomps) First level control VORTEX 2. Second level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 or -10) + track level. (up to here is ok, I can hear that my guitar is clean and undistorted, and has some headroom when I hit the thing (Vortex lights up red only on REALLY loud hits) 3. Third level control, SEND level (both track sens and overall SENDS level control) 4. Fourth level control EDP input level 5. Fifth level control EFFECT input level control (altho there is really no input level control on the red sound federation, just a gain adjust in one of the menus) 6. and SIXTH input level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 or -10) + track level. (this is where EDPs + effects are returned to mixer) So what is a good routine in figuring out a gain stucture, that is both loud and clean?... and what should I set the mixer level switches to... loud or quiet? (+4 or -10) Now I dont want any... "Get better gear" answers... that just nonsense, Ive heard some of you guys recordings, and all have shitloads of effects and cables and SOUND GREAT!!! NO hiss.. Help me out... Im 35 years in music, and Ive NEVER realy got the hang of impedance or whatever... for instance, this beringer mixer has balanced IN's (if I use stereo cables) but EDP isnt that.. or any of my guys right???? -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --0016e6d5094c7a281f046496d90c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK,, technical people...

I have never been very good at technical st= uff, despite having enough gear to launch a shuttle.
So now i want a te= chnical 101 type course in getting a good gain structure in my gear.
I just took receipt of a new EDP and got it up and running synched with the= old edp (Jeez.. easy peazy and OMG what potential... having 2 EDP's is= way more useful than having 2 EDPS)

As planned I took out a 3 U mix= er from my rack and put in its place a 1 U=A0 (both behringer I'm afrai= d, cant afford anything else).

Now, for some reason,=A0 the 2 EDP's are completely different sound= ing (old one is kinda muddy and bassy, loses top), and the thing is that I = just cant get a good level without distortion on the loop (too high level g= oing in) or too low and hissy.

Now some of the hissyness appears to be the effects that each EDP is go= ing thru, (a red sound federation, on edp1 and a Roland EF303 on edp2) But = each EDP only has ONE effect to go thru... surely that must be OK???

So now I have SO MANY input level controls on my system, something is c= ausing distortion I dont know how to start... heres the signal chain.
  1. From guitar (first a few stomps) First level control VORTEX
  2. Second level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 or -10) + tra= ck level. (up to here is ok, I can hear that my guitar is clean and undisto= rted, and has some headroom when I hit the thing (Vortex lights up red only= on REALLY loud hits)
  3. Third level control, SEND level (both track sens and overall SENDS leve= l control)
  4. Fourth level control EDP input level
  5. Fifth level= control EFFECT input level control (altho there is really no input level c= ontrol on the red sound federation, just a gain adjust in one of the menus)=
  6. and SIXTH input level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch += 4 or -10) + track level. (this is where EDPs + effects are returned to mixe= r)

So what is a good routine in figuring out a gain stucture, = that is both loud and clean?... and what should I set the mixer level switc= hes to... loud or quiet? (+4 or -10)

Now I dont want any... "Get better gear" answers... that just= nonsense, Ive heard some of you guys recordings, and all have shitloads of= effects and cables and SOUND GREAT!!! NO hiss..

Help me out... Im = 35 years in music, and Ive NEVER realy got the hang of impedance or whateve= r... for instance, this beringer mixer has balanced IN's (if I use ster= eo cables) but EDP isnt that.. or any of my guys right????


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http://vime= o.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
www.looop.no
--0016e6d5094c7a281f046496d90c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 09:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E70663BE7C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e33c87ab-9fd0-46ec-85e0-4d1c062accd2_" X-Originating-IP: [75.121.11.105] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: GAIN STRUCTURE Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 04:08:47 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 09:08:48.0133 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D9D1B50:01C99FCD] Resent-Message-ID: <-Pc2BB.A.VeH.gs4sJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:08:48 +0000 (UTC) --_e33c87ab-9fd0-46ec-85e0-4d1c062accd2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hard to work through without looking at it- one thing i would suggest as this has helped me in the past...=20 find the manual on every piece of gear and determine whether the inputs/out= puts are balanced or unbalanced (in your terms=2C stereo or mono) im still learning=2C but what balanced cables do is reduce noise=2C especia= lly over long cable runs they do this by sending an additional signal that is 180 degrees out of pha= se- so your tip and ring of a balanced connection are the same signal.... but t= hey invert the waveform on the ring... thus canceling out any noise induced= along the way- i have learned.... if you are connecting an unbalanced output to an unbalan= ced input... use a mono cable.... rather if both input and output are balan= ced ...ie.. TRS.... use a stereo cable- in theory and in research....it honestly should make no difference... but = my experience shows otherwise the other big issue is the +4 -10 ... im not familiar with the gear you are= using=2C so its hard for me to determine what each piece does ... but when= the +4/-10 comes into play.... honestly just try both ways to see which on= e has less noise-=20 for example=2C the PADS on my crest mixer add a horrible amount of noise...= ...so even though my output signal is at the same level=2C the signal/noise= ratio is greater when i have the pads inserted...... simply because there = is 1 more circuit to go through and apparently the ones on my console arent= the greatest- and alot of the time=2C the +4/-10 switch is kind of a pad..= . or kinda the opposite.... it amplifies the signal- blah- honesty im trashed out of my mind and probably am not helping you at = all.... but il venture to guess that someone on here will correct me and cl= arify it a bit further froshizzle Date: Sun=2C 8 Mar 2009 08:56:03 +0100 Subject: GAIN STRUCTURE From: mark@markfrancombe.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com OK=2C=2C technical people... I have never been very good at technical stuff=2C despite having enough gea= r to launch a shuttle.=20 So now i want a technical 101 type course in getting a good gain structure = in my gear. I just took receipt of a new EDP and got it up and running synched with the= old edp (Jeez.. easy peazy and OMG what potential... having 2 EDP's is way= more useful than having 2 EDPS) As planned I took out a 3 U mixer from my rack and put in its place a 1 U = (both behringer I'm afraid=2C cant afford anything else).=20 Now=2C for some reason=2C the 2 EDP's are completely different sounding (o= ld one is kinda muddy and bassy=2C loses top)=2C and the thing is that I ju= st cant get a good level without distortion on the loop (too high level goi= ng in) or too low and hissy. Now some of the hissyness appears to be the effects that each EDP is going = thru=2C (a red sound federation=2C on edp1 and a Roland EF303 on edp2) But = each EDP only has ONE effect to go thru... surely that must be OK??? So now I have SO MANY input level controls on my system=2C something is cau= sing distortion I dont know how to start... heres the signal chain. >From guitar (first a few stomps) First level control VORTEX Second level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 or -10) + track l= evel. (up to here is ok=2C I can hear that my guitar is clean and undistort= ed=2C and has some headroom when I hit the thing (Vortex lights up red only= on REALLY loud hits) Third level control=2C SEND level (both track sens and overall SENDS level = control)Fourth level control EDP input levelFifth level control EFFECT inpu= t level control (altho there is really no input level control on the red so= und federation=2C just a gain adjust in one of the menus) and SIXTH input level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 or -10)= + track level. (this is where EDPs + effects are returned to mixer) So what is a good routine in figuring out a gain stucture=2C that is both l= oud and clean?... and what should I set the mixer level switches to... loud= or quiet? (+4 or -10) Now I dont want any... "Get better gear" answers... that just nonsense=2C I= ve heard some of you guys recordings=2C and all have shitloads of effects a= nd cables and SOUND GREAT!!! NO hiss..=20 Help me out... Im 35 years in music=2C and Ive NEVER realy got the hang of = impedance or whatever... for instance=2C this beringer mixer has balanced I= N's (if I use stereo cables) but EDP isnt that.. or any of my guys right???= ? --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to m= eet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009= --_e33c87ab-9fd0-46ec-85e0-4d1c062accd2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hard to work through without looking at it-
one thing i would suggest as= this has helped me in the past...

find the manual on every piece o= f gear and determine whether the inputs/outputs are balanced or unbalanced = (in your terms=2C stereo or mono)
im still learning=2C but what balanced= cables do is reduce noise=2C especially over long cable runs
they do th= is by sending an additional signal that is 180 degrees out of phase-
so = your tip and ring of a balanced connection are the same signal.... but they= invert the waveform on the ring... thus canceling out any noise induced al= ong the way-

i have learned.... if you are connecting an unbalanced = output to an unbalanced input... use a mono cable.... rather if both input = and output are balanced ...ie.. TRS.... use a stereo cable-

in theor= y and in research....it honestly should make no difference... =3B but m= y experience shows otherwise

the other big issue is the +4 -10 ... i= m not familiar with the gear you are using=2C so its hard for me to determi= ne what each piece does ... but when the +4/-10 comes into play.... honestl= y just try both ways to see which one has less noise-

for example= =2C the PADS on my crest mixer add a horrible amount of noise......so even = though my output signal is at the same level=2C the signal/noise ratio is g= reater when i have the pads inserted...... simply because there is 1 more c= ircuit to go through and apparently the ones on my console arent the greate= st- and alot of the time=2C the +4/-10 switch is kind of a pad... or kinda = the opposite.... it amplifies the signal-

blah- honesty im trashed o= ut of my mind and probably am not helping you at all.... but il venture to = guess that someone on here will correct me and clarify it a bit further
=
froshizzle

Date: Sun=2C 8 Mar 2009 08:56= :03 +0100
Subject: GAIN STRUCTURE
From: mark@markfrancombe.com
To:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

OK=2C=2C technical people...
I have never been very good at technical stuff=2C despite having enoug= h gear to launch a shuttle.
So now i want a technical 101 type course i= n getting a good gain structure in my gear.
I just took receipt of a new EDP and got it up and running synched with the= old edp (Jeez.. easy peazy and OMG what potential... having 2 EDP's is way= more useful than having 2 EDPS)

As planned I took out a 3 U mixer f= rom my rack and put in its place a 1 U =3B (both behringer I'm afraid= =2C cant afford anything else).

Now=2C for some reason=2C =3B the 2 EDP's are completely different = sounding (old one is kinda muddy and bassy=2C loses top)=2C and the thing i= s that I just cant get a good level without distortion on the loop (too hig= h level going in) or too low and hissy.

Now some of the hissyness appears to be the effects that each EDP is go= ing thru=2C (a red sound federation=2C on edp1 and a Roland EF303 on edp2) = But each EDP only has ONE effect to go thru... surely that must be OK???
So now I have SO MANY input level controls on my system=2C something is= causing distortion I dont know how to start... heres the signal chain.
=
  1. From guitar (first a few stomps) First level control VORTEX
  2. Second level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 or -10) + tra= ck level. (up to here is ok=2C I can hear that my guitar is clean and undis= torted=2C and has some headroom when I hit the thing (Vortex lights up red = only on REALLY loud hits)
  3. Third level control=2C SEND level (both track sens and overall SENDS le= vel control)
  4. Fourth level control EDP input level
  5. Fifth lev= el control EFFECT input level control (altho there is really no input level= control on the red sound federation=2C just a gain adjust in one of the me= nus)
  6. and SIXTH input level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch += 4 or -10) + track level. (this is where EDPs + effects are returned to mixe= r)

So what is a good routine in figuring out a gain stucture= =2C that is both loud and clean?... and what should I set the mixer level s= witches to... loud or quiet? (+4 or -10)

Now I dont want any... "Get better gear" answers... that just nonsense= =2C Ive heard some of you guys recordings=2C and all have shitloads of effe= cts and cables and SOUND GREAT!!! NO hiss..

Help me out... Im 35 ye= ars in music=2C and Ive NEVER realy got the hang of impedance or whatever..= . for instance=2C this beringer mixer has balanced IN's (if I use stereo ca= bles) but EDP isnt that.. or any of my guys right????


--
www.m= arkfrancombe.com
http://vime= o.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
www.looop.no

Windows Live=99 Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite grou= ps to meet. Check it out. = --_e33c87ab-9fd0-46ec-85e0-4d1c062accd2_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 10:05:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12EC53BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <969227.39483.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Presonus problem Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:05:21 +0100 Message-ID: <002601c99fd5$647a8010$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <969227.39483.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Acmf0qHwXz9716lRQbq2fJDnZe15KQAAkA5Q X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.105; VDF: 7.1.2.134) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:05:25 +0000 (UTC) > and all of the sudden the soundcard is not recognized I had a similar problem under Vista - everything worked and then after a while, no sound. Everything seemed to work, no error messages, but no sound, until I disconnected and reconnected the firewire cable. I tried several things but nothing helped, and also, there was never a reply from Presonus. I eventually sold it on eBay and got another interface (the small Edirol UA-1EX which works fine). I think the Presonus hardware itself is ok but there seem to be some problems with the Vista drivers. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 10:09:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F1C3BE84; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B3A9F2.4010108@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:20:18 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:09:54 +0000 (UTC) See my comments between lines below.. J Johans wrote: > hard to work through without looking at it- > one thing i would suggest as this has helped me in the past... > > find the manual on every piece of gear and determine whether the Exactly! Knowing which levels, i.e. instrument- or line level, for each input and output is essential. I don't know all the gear referred.. It's possible all levels match just fine, but also possible that some instrument-level input is connected to a lineout level. Sometimes this will work, provided the input level control has enough adjustment range to handle this - and provided out- and input impedances don't mismatch too much. Impedance mismatch isn't likely the problem with said gear. Typically, output impedances are relatively low and inputs are high, which will work fine; it's more the levels that matters. > inputs/outputs are balanced or unbalanced (in your terms, stereo or mono) > im still learning, but what balanced cables do is reduce noise, > especially over long cable runs > they do this by sending an additional signal that is 180 degrees out of > phase- > so your tip and ring of a balanced connection are the same signal.... > but they invert the waveform on the ring... thus canceling out any noise > induced along the way- > > i have learned.... if you are connecting an unbalanced output to an > unbalanced input... use a mono cable.... rather if both input and output > are balanced ...ie.. TRS.... use a stereo cable- > > in theory and in research....it honestly should make no difference... > but my experience shows otherwise > > the other big issue is the +4 -10 ... im not familiar with the gear you > are using, so its hard for me to determine what each piece does ... but > when the +4/-10 comes into play.... honestly just try both ways to see > which one has less noise- > ...snipped... Agreed. this is the in/out level differences, as said above. > froshizzle > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:56:03 +0100 > Subject: GAIN STRUCTURE > From: mark@markfrancombe.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > OK,, technical people... > > I have never been very good at technical stuff, despite having enough > gear to launch a shuttle. > So now i want a technical 101 type course in getting a good gain > structure in my gear. > ...snipped... > > Now, for some reason, the 2 EDP's are completely different sounding > (old one is kinda muddy and bassy, loses top), and the thing is that I > just cant get a good level without distortion on the loop (too high > level going in) or too low and hissy. Here you need to isolate the problem, i.e. run one EDP at a time in the same configuration, to determine if one might have a problem. If both works/sounds the same in the same setup, it's not the EDP's, but your rigging hookup. > So now I have SO MANY input level controls on my system, something is > causing distortion I dont know how to start... heres the signal chain. > > 1. From guitar (first a few stomps) First level control VORTEX > 2. Second level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 or -10) > + track level. (up to here is ok, I can hear that my guitar is > clean and undistorted, and has some headroom when I hit the thing > (Vortex lights up red only on REALLY loud hits) > 3. Third level control, SEND level (both track sens and overall SENDS > level control) > 4. Fourth level control EDP input level > 5. Fifth level control EFFECT input level control (altho there is > really no input level control on the red sound federation, just a > gain adjust in one of the menus) > 6. and SIXTH input level control MIXER INPUT (two levels on switch +4 > or -10) + track level. (this is where EDPs + effects are returned > to mixer) > > > So what is a good routine in figuring out a gain stucture, that is both > loud and clean?... and what should I set the mixer level switches to... > loud or quiet? (+4 or -10) I'd suggest: . check the manuals WRT in/out levels and type of cabling . verify your intended hookups match above findings . turn all inputs down, and start setting input level on first device . then move on through the chain - keeping all send/return loops muted . when the direct chain works, move one to set levels in the loops Some generally useful info on building rigs are emerging on http://www.adadepot.com/forums/ We're right about editing a number of good threads to be merged into some howto's/guidelines. They'll likely be found in the Technical section or the FAQ section. Give us a bit'o'time ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 10:10:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64EAB3BE89; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rfsJ2rc7E6dUnnkUDLml0D8sRM74L1jVcI8ny551EMM=; b=gsjaQGsmBIGYCe/OppCTd5URxbUR9hq3/BICpqLL1Qnp1Vf/KeoW8aT+kK16nYJ7vg Y1LLeXIEQflHBdn1CKhSZMEUT+pWyXnzG6H2qnv/vP0vY9xDYnWfSyh4Yut6gT71L8Ja hCMaZ5aKix1Ca+4+vlUm3aG9sdE/e0N9GhVxk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=G6x+bS5I14cX6XEgB8/eziXLB6rxMFG/0Gpo36cyi1AHAexlqoKnRg2087boYbFsGj N0xk0ElOUFlW0ZeR7qAAthJDBTEVeiMUODewRVbssgckc1zbdW3xwqVzII7Zof2VehKv 53UykkbBOW9WRIbwxPxJMGabyupZGrMJ6pCcs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:10:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7a8f30fdfd3c0a60 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b4f2532139046498b9f1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 10:10:15 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b4f2532139046498b9f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, So now i want a technical 101 type course in getting a good gain structure > in my gear. A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as hot as possible with input gain as low as possible. Start with the last item in the chain and turn the input gain to 0. Plug the next last machine into it and turn output as far as you can without distorting the input. Rinse, repeat ... Ian --001636c5b4f2532139046498b9f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,

So now i want a technical 101 type course in gett= ing a good gain structure in my gear.

A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as hot as= possible with input gain as low as possible.

Star= t with the last item in the chain and turn the input gain to 0. Plug the ne= xt last machine into it and turn output as far as you can without distortin= g the input. Rinse, repeat ...

=A0Ian=A0
--001636c5b4f2532139046498b9f1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 11:07:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A05733BE80; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0xqOhViYt9tAGqBOerLh7p5DIlvhQjpv5+822STuW5k=; b=WfdqW6+fSxGtxKddHiXHKGbvYw7INlm6rnvzULdHaCWRo555mJQcj5GyfcBQYUVrFX ngJ40QRbaZIWRhXzN9a3qvI3NudQpwlE/dYZv06dzFcOiJHiPGEwvyGqXSX7bh2a5I00 VPGVoFZMm0ywV6XG0YLnz73yzvRJ6hmrBjWCs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L3miAIG94Luz5gJygQT5+mWIo6qWFINa88s8R9umazHFTVxw8gIkPBydcuYfWwdviE v+TqL6Okk4e5UdEduf4eBqZlDuKSP3nfZTMHFnOwZWOqsJJbwDNkQ6ZSzb1YjOO0casM J84uKZNl38r81OlbR8JVsRMFekLyEVZlzrFXw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:07:38 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5dbd84f3c7a9cb86 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d58af4aca25904649986c4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:07:40 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d58af4aca25904649986c4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as hot as possible with > input gain as low as possible. > > Start with the last item in the chain and turn the input gain to 0. Plug > the next last machine into it and turn output as far as you can without > distorting the input. Rinse, repeat ... > > Ian > Hmm this is new to me... I ALWAYS try to get my input as high as possible... how can this be true... Im sure that its none of the gear, and just a question of getting very precise levels... but your answers are throwing up more questions... Now, A guitar.. thats instrument level right? So then it goes into a vortex... thats what?.. the same?? Instrument level.. So I agree I should go to the manual, but what numbers mean what? Is +4 line an - 11 instrument? However, I suspect that actually everything is instrument level... Except.. wait!!! Both my EDP effects (the redsound federation and the Roland ef 303) are actually aimed at DJ's... therfore have phone plugs... so what does that make them? OH.. And one more question about SEND LEVELS: One each channel of the mixer there is a send knob, but there is an overall send level. What is better, keeping the overall knob really high and just dialling in a tiny amount of level per channel? OR the reverse, turning the send FULL UP to send to the loopers, and having the overall level really low... OR... Having both low and turning UP the EDP input level control, OR having both really HIGH, but keeping the edp level really really low... or what? I am of course gonna try eveything... but im interested in the theory from the really clever people here... m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --0016e6d58af4aca25904649986c4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as ho= t as possible with input gain as low as possible.

Start with the last item in the chain and turn the input gain to 0. Plug the next last machine into it and turn output as far as you can without distorting the input. Rinse, repeat ...

=A0Ian

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Hmm this is new to me... I ALWAYS try to get my i= nput as high as possible... how can this be true... Im sure that its none o= f the gear, and just a question of getting very precise levels...

but your answers are throwing up more questions...

Now, A guitar= .. thats instrument level right?

So then it goes into a vortex... t= hats what?.. the same?? Instrument level.. So I agree I should go to the ma= nual, but what numbers mean what?
Is +4 line an - 11 instrument?

However, I suspect that actually ever= ything is instrument level...

Except.. wait!!!

Both my EDP = effects (the redsound federation and the Roland ef 303) are actually aimed = at DJ's... therfore have phone plugs... so what does that make them?
OH.. And one more question about SEND LEVELS:
One each channel of th= e mixer there is a send knob, but there is an overall send level.
What i= s better, keeping the overall knob really high and just dialling in a tiny = amount of level per channel?
OR the reverse, turning the send FULL UP to send to the loopers, and having= the overall level really low...
OR... Having both low and turning UP t= he EDP input level control,
OR having both really HIGH, but keeping the= edp level really really low...

or what?

I am of course gonna try eveything... but im interested= in the theory from the really clever people here...

m



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= http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
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--0016e6d58af4aca25904649986c4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 11:15:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A42C13BE82; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B3A8B1.5090200@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:14:57 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: GAIN STRUCTURE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Mark wrote: "Help me out... Im 35 years in music, and Ive NEVER realy got the hang of impedance or whatever... for instance, this beringer mixer has balanced IN's (if I use stereo cables) but EDP isnt that.. or any of my guys right????" It is so fucking refreshing to read that someone admits to not understanding imepedance. I've never fully understood MIDI. I am Solder-phobic, have never fully understood signal flow as it effects gain structure and I can't program. I feel like such a dolt so much of the time. It's nice to hear that someone else feels this way. I feel so less lonely because you admitted it, Mark. Thanks, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 11:21:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C956A3BE75; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B3AA33.9080908@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 04:21:23 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: GAIN STRUCTURE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <369YhC.A.A9E.4o6sJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 11:21:28 +0000 (UTC) froshsizzle wrote: "It's possible all levels match just fine, but also possible that some instrument-level input is connected to a lineout level." Will someone please explain the difference between instrument level, lineout level and mic level and why it is important that these levels match each other (viz a vis, noise in your signal chain)? I'm never quite understood this. Which one is +4? Which one is -10? Which of these creates less noise and why? Thanks.................. still perplexed, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:04:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49C583BE78; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236513886; bh=xSPvSyEnk54/q7VEPFkp+M+dIpPZLmPIE/VIY6VlfVA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=v8Ag5nuDJePb1ZSG23nZWfyX0+SttnfUNDcXRbma+nWE5Jn8m4kK4YfLHiBEKbZcv0dJLyUag0eY2/L7AY/6FSEEv5Hgsiax/zdV5mrIXB7fGwo6odR/RMw88pw7UWrr7y4NOdQyzntTdURHSJE0PIjrU69juKeKD+3KVrepEZQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4mCYHndbIOqj5abHhKHVdX6G9MrSm+I19yervN9sYAIavptUeeTFhFLfFNFEO3ByXYLQU3BefAkGGNSkeCkEkjIDeMuj5e4WEPk+CzQg07Pw8xAXjI8sVrBrkwRCkHvPWD0kRoiURDLkgQd2JN4tTXUv6HFGSk3MG9+slkN+WbM=; Message-ID: <272734.17921.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: A.CleEMVM1mKXGQAxdZeELr.BiG.S3jHMwow.5XNR9w9f0joJJSHtH.Gl0IaAR4LzBm0hRDZquyxkJIcdZIxnDxexAGImKEJ.U1Q.q5Ylt5pr4hi2N5X5Nxi.blxS5995XIkqupW_IHjmsQJc8qdtTn1UWweue86GILUbyfe9.p_sgUEstM16lxcp2KucBdp3w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:04:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: First post - newbie advice wanted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000801c99f39$7b0c3680$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4ePfSD.A._pG.fR7sJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:04:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rod, There are times when i get hired to do such gigs.I myself went through a se= ries of loop stompboxes but soon got old.I wanted to record loops that woul= d be longer than the initial one and change parts, and upon my search i stu= mbled into the EDP and discovered more loops and multiply,boy that was a ga= s!But back in 96 the oberheim EDP had a lot of issues but eventually i disc= overed this site and got the new software which solved all of those problem= s. All was fun for years and i could never get enough from the EDP,that box is= still so ahead of this time! but then i wanted to do more complex stuff an= d have stereo tracks so i could mute and store my loops rather than having = just a single mono loop so i got the Repeater.That was also a lot of fun be= cause i could store the loops and recall them at a gig though i never stopp= ed using the EDP. Eventually th p=B4ter got discontinued and i was never completely happy wit= h it because the tracks werent really independent plus it had other issues.= I sold it later to find out that there was a new SW upgrade that would take= care of a lot of those issues so i was bummed;-( Then the Looperlative came out which i had for a short while,unfortunately = mine had some technical issues and although is a good box it was missing a = lot of features and functions important to me.Then all of the sudden i disc= overed Mobius which has everything i needed,loops,8 independent tracks,lite= rally all EDP functions,loop storage,recording capabilities,scripts to crea= te your own functions,stereo,pristine sound and best of all amazing support= from Jeff and is free!! So like you i resisted the laptop route for years and to be honest if mobiu= s came in hardware i would probably switch to it in a hard beat.I realize h= ow fragile a laptop and soundcard devices can be,2 of my firewire soundcard= s have had problems with the firewire conection lately,i just sent my expen= sive RME FW 800 to get it repaired for a second time now,and now all of the= sudden my presonus seems to have a similar problem,thank god it happend af= ter my last gig! So why hasnt my dream come true 100 percent yet? well first just like you i= am a singer and sometimes do gigs where id like to have backing groove dru= m sample tracks,effects to proccess my guitar,perhaps integrated synths to = be triggered with my roland ready synth guitar and a good looper all in one= package. Second,as i said the laptop route with the firewire cable still makes me a = bit shaky...and i havent really completely gotten used to it after playing = so many years with hardware, but it is certainly way more flexible and the = transporting capabilities when playing and traveling cannot be beat.So unle= ss there is a piece of hardware that comes out with all of the essential lo= oping capabilities for me i am very happy to have gone this route. However ive been eyeballing the upcoming Ableton 8 which seems to have a lo= t of ths things but ive never used that software and i hear there is a lear= ning curve.But the dream is getting closer and closer! If you dont want to deal with laptops one of the options that has a lot of = what you are looking for i guess is the Boss RC-50,there are a lot of exper= ienced people here that will teach you how to get the best out of it so you= have landed in the right place! Luis > From: Rhod Evans=20 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 > Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:49 AM > Subject: First post - newbie advice wanted >=20 >=20 > Hi all >=20 > I hope you'll bear with me as I explain the advice I > need... >=20 > I have been playing in bands (mostly rock and blues) for > more years than I want to recall ( 3 decades plus) but after > a fall out with a couple of members of my recent band > I've decided to sod 'em and go solo. I have a good > rock/blues voice (I've been compared to Paul Rogers of > Free, which is very flattering but I'll never be THAT > good!). I'm also reasonably competent on guitar, so my > idea is to have drum sample and possibly bass midi backing, > then play rhythm, lead and sing over the top of it. I was > going to use Ableton Live for this with a Laptop, but it > seems ridiculously complicated for the simple and gritty > style of music I'm aiming for - I also play bottleneck, > so there will definitely be a bluesy bias. >=20 > Then I discovered the Jamman, and that seems ideal - > pre-record drum and bass loops in LIVE, download to the > Jamman, then on stage play and record rhythm guitar > verse/chorus whilst singing over the top of it, then loop > and play lead guitar, harmonica or whatever and sing over > the top of it. >=20 > However I notice that most of you seem to prefer the > Echoplex. Am I missing something here? As far as I can > tell the Echoplex doesn't have the ability to download > pre-recorded loops (no way of storing them?) so I would be > severely at a disadvantage - how it be possible to get 3 > sets worth of prepared music onto it? I'm not worried > about the cost - it's more important that I get the > right kit, as I have gigs waiting. >=20 > Any advice on which you think I should go for would be > much appreciated. Also any thoughts on the practicality or > otherwise of my idea. >=20 > Thanks >=20 > For info, I also have a PA, 12 input mixer, Fender guitar > amp, 2 guitars, pedals etc, and a TC Helicon > 'VoiceLive' which is a vocal processor able to > produce harmonies on the fly and which has reverb, > compression, noise gate etc.=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:05:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E19373BE84; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236513951; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=HgiDlEgx0u4YZpihVS77A6e3+b0=; b=i1J/u6lH5LxNdG67QrURd0J2697VudYxmwV9Ye8RJuJVbJCf2h1ipME9ZAGesM8I pLEAIVFb2cPPAAP2aFjASBClAcN/cLuqpVY8AMNsmp7dXWx0DzMY3t8lXT90BG6p; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=oTtuw1C_AAAA:8 a=yUf5M4v9JLnpqabpNssA:9 a=UCH_Qf3fA2Q0y-l5j7aSiPi6micA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c99fe6$38e5d290$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <49B3AA33.9080908@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:05:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:05:51 +0000 (UTC) I found this from your bro': Line level vs instrument level EDP etc http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200206/msg00345.html j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:21 AM Subject: re: GAIN STRUCTURE > froshsizzle wrote: > "It's possible all levels match just fine, but also possible that some > instrument-level input is connected to a lineout level." > > Will someone please explain the difference between instrument level, > lineout level and mic level > and why it is important that these levels match each other (viz a vis, > noise in your signal chain)? > > I'm never quite understood this. > > Which one is +4? Which one is -10? > > Which of these creates less noise and why? > > Thanks.................. > > > still perplexed, Rick > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:16:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 427313BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236514563; bh=YvHF89IXaj5aKe8AKGGaYNTiRtKY10JTspo8k4YR/vM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jz5NZj6gBsE57m4fmJQ8hR7ZIQoKbbAgr58dPPLcDWvdVo/h5CyDsTpT5dqUWdQiQINGb30zLsyDRS2ukeUmlEnOKOzgwUVz1cg6fcrFWi21e/qo6Z8kqQV7U8n08VOWOkjTpXnow+gjbUzoTOFGmSRB+GceIsYyaJG4Ck3Q4G8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BZ+j9qyNd70j0VQ/sJfmsPn18Mfxqmge6k98hUE7su++fTyC5Umsg7GrhLO3SPX1W6Dl90TjW0xK+oXoGgJESYaOOk5/EzvFmuQa9d3iDVXbIPUPff7+hDeoRw24a4qq5h72pXIH3io+dIpbjZgwMDbSu6rlxGqO+mf0V4plNOk=; Message-ID: <329599.57749.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2gTiVw0VM1kz3LR_b9Bu1NjhFdLs8hXlZ6300s9kZbpt5MPijQ_.e5HAF22noYxHATEfxoJBr3dBwsNH3D3tjQm4At9YoGqS6b1DoHVz3FnSeTVMQQxwaGTWSB1lS1SH3WybX.L2B.7jmfJK.8peVshTw8oGlBVsmoKgp__uDlYMJxZc.jSikjQ9gGD_FDvDsLts3dcvb3mrsk5pKu1tAD7Vc_QzchfZ X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:16:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: re: GAIN STRUCTURE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B3AA33.9080908@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:16:04 +0000 (UTC) yes i also want to finally understand this but please you gurus explain this in a non engineering lenguage thanx for bringing it up guys!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: re: GAIN STRUCTURE > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:21 AM > froshsizzle wrote: > "It's possible all levels match just fine, but > also possible that some instrument-level input is connected > to a lineout level." > > Will someone please explain the difference between > instrument level, lineout level and mic level > and why it is important that these levels match each other > (viz a vis, noise in your signal chain)? > > I'm never quite understood this. > > Which one is +4? Which one is -10? > > Which of these creates less noise and why? > > Thanks.................. > > > still perplexed, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:20:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A85683BE7C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1nL8tcdP1jc28cfX56QpmvSj6XAe1wLfUlW2T3ajaeY=; b=TNpC8pKlmic5ne3hvLLZCRPVm2dn7eEHtPYAkwqt+gEMwmxkcvm/tSiCoEW7Vnc/5V IHyilbKYMWZ+A5TOpyz3AVnaHqyMPgi0bBwqTV08OfH3LGfUkSUqR5B1BBt48qs5BglE 1s0PWhEEuRDG9l7BMwhp56xdDRF5xhIm3oM3w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=we4i0WQY4lKF5guLlUEXtZTBIxvJ7+Wkw6TOeq5vpxHrisOb9d6cOz8UwOJzfL8ntM kXe8JaWa32ZoJ61iFaLkVHukyWiJxUyv8RwfZENKkcDeRbfimMtu18iSIFGN2ZXXdReQ Av5hXFsn/ggwd3rhSJx1SoGFX9kSToqDgKuls= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:20:47 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:20:49 +0000 (UTC) >> A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as hot as possible wi= th >> input gain as low as possible. >> =A0Ian On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Hmm this is new to me... I ALWAYS try to get my input as high as possible= ... > how can this be true... Im sure that its none of the gear, and just a > question of getting very precise levels... Guys, this seems to be just a case of funny mind warp due to misinterpretation in communication ;-)) If a hot signal arrives at an input jack you need to set the input gain low - at the receiving device. "One man's ceiling is another man's floor", you know. As true is one device's output the other device's input, if talking signal here. Just make sure there is always as hot a signal as possible passing through the cables. Or you could say the same thing in a more electronican nerdy way as "make optimal use of headroom". > Now, A guitar.. thats instrument level right? Guess you mean an electric guitar. Yes, that is instrument level and that is not the same as line level or the pro level (+4 dB). Guitar pickup output level may differ a bit between pickups though. And I'm not sure exactly what it is in bare numbers. But it's really important to match the instrument level; I have learned that the hard way since I've always played stratocasters with low output vintage pick-up output level and if that signal is not matched correctly at the receiving device's input (tube pre amp or RMX audio interface pre amp) it severely affects the instruments capability to be played with its analog volume and tone knobs. > Except.. wait!!! > > Both my EDP effects (the redsound federation and the Roland ef 303) are > actually aimed at DJ's... therfore have phone plugs... so what does that > make them? Yup, your fear is truly justified here. Especially input for a turntable has yet another level. I remember my Repeater had a matched input for turntable - that's cool! I know one DJ that actually cabled his turntable directly to the 'peater. You should Google your gear, or look up the manuals to find out their proper levels. Having said that I have to admit I never did that myself, since it's pretty obvious when to signals are not matched; it just sounds either dull and low or distorted and loud. Ok, so when you know about your patch levels, they you find out if you need to buy any transformers/boosters to put between the boxes. About mixing: Always crank the send up to 0 dB. Then adjust the looper's input gain to receive the feed properly. The king of effect system design and routing is Pete Cornish, http://www.petecornish.co.uk. Lots of good hints to be snagged there ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:21:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4505D3BE85; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:21:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1236514907; bh=zCchA1oUcCZ384LpmmJSoBn9/ygNcJWYZkFolCpas7g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0zyHAuLAywszc1GelyRAPTaeLAqPPkKszIZka/JRzB+4U4byb+dek59LkOpoWYQF0Qajwong1InEOUygzfD5Vs2mCS3QI4l4XBerBxvH2zFrDwpnkQ9K6sofiUhk1ZOOU9MOcVf+bB4AHQp/fZezEKf9eXKYeowC4O7KqnNOPhg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i7OAKNu2kByfm3n2zu2KURvz1N+afHMkqWPamj4E6F0Itzb2x2gJgAh9SUvvVGZx/eCvrxsxX9AqwwXKbS5TMlClfEKq1jvDe+RoVF5JB2yOw7HCveN2JqA9vbV81nC7hnWyPFVvA6zrfKKL+lmeZbThG2wSn0yJzCgPXnEilQY=; Message-ID: <199108.76685.qm@web26406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q4hS9NcVM1kf7u.Bmq8PZheYWz2N5GRfc_iveVdqjFl7Dn6DO6pnD.Y7gKnaS2tnSAbUBQ..wB1PtAd19j96VwW8PoDVT3718mMLtxnMbdKog9A9IsXkn2jQmxJsJhMAHHqCq7GoHZS8qB5QULGF3Ik.3oIyFRN0mKi6aNwtgheUMvZxIj1IprlVuUon8g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <901995.24218.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <3251fee0e319dc29f3aea4404ac4a437@charter.net> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:21:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Rhod Evans Subject: Re: First post - newbie advice wanted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-903793505-1236514907=:76685" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:21:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-903793505-1236514907=:76685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all for your very interesting replies!=0A=0AIt does sound as if I mi= ght be better with a looper AND a phrase sampler. Presumably they can be c= ontrolled using foot switches (my hands are going to be pretty busy!)? Als= o I'm currently a bit hazy about how they sync to each other.=0A=0AThe othe= r part of me is saying that for the kind of music I do I should keep it ult= ra-simple and just use the Jamman. I suppose the effect I'm after is of a = 'slightly' more sophisticated Seasick Steve, so I'm not looking for multi-l= ayered loops and such like - it's really quite a raw blusey approach - thin= k early Free perhaps. I know that what I should really do is get a decent = drummer and bass player, but I'm quite fed up of the silly ego trips and ar= guments that inevitably (in my experience) happen in a band situation, and = I feel that I'd like to at least give the solo thing a try.=0A=0AThanks aga= in.=0A=0ARhod=0A=0A=0A --0-903793505-1236514907=:76685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks all for your very interesting replies!

It does sound as if I= might be better with a looper AND a phrase sampler.  Presumably they = can be controlled using foot switches (my hands are going to be pretty busy= !)?  Also I'm currently a bit hazy about how they sync to each other.<= br>
The other part of me is saying that for the kind of music I do I sho= uld keep it ultra-simple and just use the Jamman.  I suppose the effec= t I'm after is of a 'slightly' more sophisticated Seasick Steve, so I'm not= looking for multi-layered loops and such like - it's really quite a raw bl= usey approach - think early Free perhaps.  I know that what I should r= eally do is get a decent drummer and bass player, but I'm quite fed up of the silly ego trips and arguments that inevitably (in my experience) happe= n in a band situation, and I feel that I'd like to at least give the solo t= hing a try.

Thanks again.

Rhod



=0A= =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-903793505-1236514907=:76685-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:23:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D5EC3BE8A; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:23:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236515001; bh=Sp3UPpWUnsiuuDjGpUdkBFGdTsd7F6yww0XgszxfS6o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XW4a2fsBIxkrWpG1477tYgMnd8cZ0hVS2BA1mhVl3UiMJvwtOCsqFm4VS85rNfy6+mnUy3npgRX/zHciw1A7+kGJ6kiMte//yFtvRHoEv2/6eGcYFI8PmEhiOUPuvRR2fS3Q0Ab233pxSCMqCJhfhbEXgVefJj1mw6dWje4y9cw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RTKBigd98qAdQe9nFrCCY170mdWTmoSz+blxMYFHdiyuAeuA/rpkTDEzjKvNIOdWxOgQIv9FRFTfcZ7TafOXQKTjXLrbc7dVpSV00c63waK2Eh67YAgJDoM5xneb0QMH+DmvNzzyOAe3K/lbLY7XV+3a6tMErqQ3XvaRC7EXM18=; Message-ID: <524086.62571.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QOIEBOUVM1lL76iLLn4mrIF9uuqbownnXym4SQb1kHWj7CtNNcqKe1u8Mzx7adXnfUyNjHduetHNJAXjjfl7Lr5i0ELiZH6HC86mBX0dISi7vgIBksekCjnXrzzPh.i_XUGTH6XklWJwNc9soj0cnH57k4aUFOrqqeyR78bx1Ae_xrjiWVMsOnplVE5_Dw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:23:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:23:22 +0000 (UTC) This is what confuses me,ive heard the complete opposite,get your input signal as strong as possible without any clipping and then turn the ouput gain for the cleanest signal... > > A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as > hot as possible with > > input gain as low as possible. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:36:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B10ED3BE7C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236515763; bh=TiK7CU8lovXGdZqSxKhcuXeWyeALtw2FnLc56tuKj9E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3965jAAZDiSKokWwsW/0vyr/XHSNuYX2GvJ/jue65Mc8o7zC0RxekBlE2ppWFsSNDKbwQfO95zWdAXBkmRaJlNL1HoGrNTcEmFiJ8CVz4OGZWkb1cTSj0oYC78pj35qlcSmLMHZeNtE3JwDfO7n6ED04ZJGeV6XOkhZ9m9uyWc0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CkcLxfRKO+8kH3zbyy/E3Nw9sSzFzvxNZuRY6rHLN5CfLt1sec0X8r+J8FP9ywFenDZ5o8ZlXEkP+QQ/cTKfMrn0lF7biqpT4qAq9IeLFXTCc7syCzanBlWvmTX/LKMR3ajpzedNUZL+3iNJx+LXkHqS9z69VflOn44G8E9Mz/Y=; Message-ID: <952406.71097.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QGtCDjwVM1kruAtjOrvCl4jgEi2LRj9argzBWKUKP4UIxnirljz7bU3_mSN9JlCdduY3DcA.76rBgAdLxbFmWPO9ccDZ0vYv8hXMrrITYZjJLcrgUg1xCeXo4Mm_4zBrVZD7go.t34KQ4zRZczlVOX0nXLdRZNq1VuupqCXYkPnloCgmZohoq7kTfhfrVwfpjy.5sizCXrW_NiraapYSQQd2wbVAPxbP X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:36:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: First post - newbie advice wanted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <199108.76685.qm@web26406.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:36:04 +0000 (UTC) what about this one? http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=477 this guy plays blues and uses it: www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Rhod Evans wrote: > From: Rhod Evans > Subject: Re: First post - newbie advice wanted > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 5:21 AM > Thanks all for your very interesting replies! > > It does sound as if I might be better with a looper AND a > phrase sampler. Presumably they can be controlled using > foot switches (my hands are going to be pretty busy!)? Also > I'm currently a bit hazy about how they sync to each > other. > > The other part of me is saying that for the kind of music I > do I should keep it ultra-simple and just use the Jamman. I > suppose the effect I'm after is of a 'slightly' > more sophisticated Seasick Steve, so I'm not looking for > multi-layered loops and such like - it's really quite a > raw blusey approach - think early Free perhaps. I know that > what I should really do is get a decent drummer and bass > player, but I'm quite fed up of the silly ego trips and > arguments that inevitably (in my experience) happen in a > band situation, and I feel that I'd like to at least > give the solo thing a try. > > Thanks again. > > Rhod From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 12:54:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 716833BE80; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B3D079.8030503@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:04:41 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:54:12 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > > A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as hot as > possible with input gain as low as possible. > > Start with the last item in the chain and turn the input gain to 0. > Plug the next last machine into it and turn output as far as you can > without distorting the input. Rinse, repeat ... > > Ian > > > > Hmm this is new to me... I ALWAYS try to get my input as high as > possible... how can this be true... Im sure that its none of the gear, > and just a question of getting very precise levels... > > but your answers are throwing up more questions... > > Now, A guitar.. thats instrument level right? > > So then it goes into a vortex... thats what?.. the same?? Instrument > level.. So I agree I should go to the manual, but what numbers mean what? > Is +4 line an - 11 instrument? > > However, I suspect that actually everything is instrument level... As an example, your Vortex inputs are instrument-level, and the outputs are line-level (-30dBu minimum), and outputs are line-level (-2dBu min). > Except.. wait!!! > > Both my EDP effects (the redsound federation and the Roland ef 303) are > actually aimed at DJ's... therfore have phone plugs... so what does that > make them? > > OH.. And one more question about SEND LEVELS: > One each channel of the mixer there is a send knob, but there is an > overall send level. > What is better, keeping the overall knob really high and just dialling > in a tiny amount of level per channel? > OR the reverse, turning the send FULL UP to send to the loopers, and > having the overall level really low... > OR... Having both low and turning UP the EDP input level control, > OR having both really HIGH, but keeping the edp level really really low... Depends on your gear.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 13:31:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD93D3BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B3D93F.80108@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:42:07 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <49B3AA33.9080908@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B3AA33.9080908@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > froshsizzle wrote: > "It's possible all levels match just fine, but also possible that some > instrument-level input is connected to a lineout level." > > Will someone please explain the difference between instrument level, > lineout level and mic level > and why it is important that these levels match each other (viz a vis, > noise in your signal chain)? > > I'm never quite understood this. > > Which one is +4? Which one is -10? > > Which of these creates less noise and why? > > Thanks.................. > > > still perplexed, Rick Thy shall be relieved.. :D I'll try to explain from a practical point of view. Standards do exist, but are by far adhered to. Professional (studio) equipment often adhere to standards; out beloved musicians gear often vary quite a lot. Even so, it's not really a major problem, as long as we read the manuals and understand which in/outputs are at which levels. Instrument inputs: Alway high-inpedance, often around 100-500Kohm, but can be anything from 20Kohm to 1Mohm (1Mohm mostly seen in older tubeamps). Levels can vary from -50dBu to -10dBu, but are often stated as -10dBu. Line inputs: Always (somewhat) low impedance, i.e. from a few 10th of ohms to the often used 600ohm standard (which can be seen both with balanced and unbalanced connections). Levels can vary quite a lot, but are often stated as +4Bu. Impedance: Must either match or the diving device output impedance must be significantly lower than the next device input impedance. Balanced circuits are most often 600ohm. If both outputs and inputs are i.e. 600ohm, it's called impedance matching. In this case no signal losses will take place, and there will be no reflections, provided the correct (600ohm) cables are used. If the driving device is low-impedance, say 1-10ohm (or even 600ohm), and the next device is high-impedance, say 10-100Kohm, all will be well. The low-impedance output circuitry will have no trouble driving cables et al.. and the next device's high input won't present any significant load. In the reverse case, i.e. output impedance not low enough and input not high enough, signal reflections make take place. I'll refrain from further elaborating on this, as most all our devices are designed just fine WRT output and input impedances. To summerize: As long as using single-ended connections, i.e. non-balanced, most all our gear will behave WRT impedance, so it's mostly a matter of knowing which inputs and outputs are designed for which signal levels. Manuals can be pretty useful.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 13:33:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 616CE3BE78; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:33:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B3D9A5.603@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:43:49 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <524086.62571.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <524086.62571.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:33:18 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > This is what confuses me,ive heard the complete opposite,get your input signal as strong as possible without any clipping and then turn the ouput gain for the cleanest signal... > > > > >>>A good rule of thumb is that output gain should be as >> >>hot as possible with >> >>>input gain as low as possible. None of the above is generally true. The output driver circuitry in some device may sound less clean (not really distorted..) or be a bit noisy; thus, setting the output as hot as possible may not be good. Likewise, the input preamp in some device may exibit the same behaviour; thus, it may not be adviceable turning the input high up. In other words, whether the output should be high and input in the next device set low, depends on the devices in question. Generally, it's usually said to turn the input level up till the input LED just starts to light up on peaks, indicating the threshold of clipping. But how the respective outputs and inputs are set relative to one another depends on how the quality the two devices. Further, just about all devices have an input level control, but not all have an output control. In the latter scenario, all one can do is set the input on the succeding device. This may cause problems if the *driving* device has line-level out and the next device has an instrument-level input which cannot be set low enough to handle the line-level it's being presented. Most often, devices cope pretty well with these scenarios. The manual will tell how they're meant to be hooked up, and will have the in/output specs at the end of the manual. Doctor's joke: "Always read the manual before operating" ;D -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 14:00:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FDA73BE82; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=VxT3ZOoxWndwkrBvj4HDyrr/hJXpP4sCNqx6N9yZ2gI=; b=xQacG4IotVgQPJzsiPhFwgGjqH59nWQaLX8/1b5txZ1om/sfjNm0gBlrppnuPPUKrE IWDW1vrbxqKDtGXmcpmCIj0yIXdF9L9L+taPC0xp1umvr4reUWMUlmqxQupNLovB4Kbx e5XIk6C9sh3cFMJp5VNCI7fXVKHWk55PmNxnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Ck/OhpcTvb9jbACRUh1MPXnBT1/iZm+saqqLKmZpRRdi9FZu2mHZlEoIa1YT74k5P0 8KW4jbUiHzgnq+XaSZDu7hB7Cq7GlTE7xy+Q+kKvaVMijEjkISILsP9Vb5I3sSt/JiDm HSsUfOAMtT9f7NzxQaxKN8e4eG5RfszvBQlYc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:00:42 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Has anyone tried to replace a worn-out pad button with a non worn-out on a Behringer FCB1010 pedal? I'm thinking about looking into that now, since I have two pedals with their precious number 1 now entering senility. My first FCB lasted almost five years and this one seems to go down now after three years. But together they represent a healthy stock capital of replacement parts. Maybe one can take a button 5 from the old pedal and put as button 1 on the younger one? Any hints from those who have been there done that...? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 14:45:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8993C3BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 160012656/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.143.220/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.143.220 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkCAI92s0lPTo/c/2dsb2JhbAAIj1fDRYQFBoZ+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,324,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="160012656" Message-ID: <49B3DC09.8050609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:54:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2hYouC.A.12E.Io9sJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Just make sure there is always as hot a signal as possible passing > through the cables. um, that's not right, it's more a recipe for distortion disaster. Many devices don't have a potentiometer before the first active stage. :-) however, we do need a snappy sentence as an alternative to the level match 101 I'm now writing for Rick I'd suggest:- Just make sure that each device input receives the loudest signal it can handle without distortion. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 14:58:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6109A3BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y5FMzci0Gbjwbfy9h4x9uCVphGFkiASNwlo0WSrtZf8=; b=ku9SN1lnlqgsvaz8B0zZurNLwVpwF5pUuO/WS+DbMxE0IHt6zzMU3iY4zHXQ4M+Y32 E/pkzRq/mxurRbdXJtFaQBwCx/1fLVSHY8uQkAHa06BarpEvPSlkTRqhoXzM/ZeHVncQ gqc5Gb31pqoUqRwXGc5kws+CAginiKtnBWALI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=GaPAr9VTT8COGArIn1e1OEewouvuiNoejJEPEwS2jdYnr9lhv7f1BjWjIYp+7avt64 m81a2be6YkooYYNhBEzmuKm6D10wRmfpw1Sz/xFSEwLF2BWxTzL9D4pvESSe4QYMK6mc lLxC+LvGoVjiEaBJsBlGP5yitj10b1BOuHl5c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:58:02 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd16e809a4d3604649cbe59 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:58:03 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd16e809a4d3604649cbe59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My first one has a button that started acting up around the two-year mark, so I'm also interested. Or has anyone ever taken one apart to clean it? TH On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Has anyone tried to replace a worn-out pad button with a non worn-out > on a Behringer FCB1010 pedal? --000e0cd16e809a4d3604649cbe59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My first one has a button that started acting up around the two-year mark, = so I'm also interested. =A0Or has anyone ever taken one apart to clean = it?

TH

On Sun, Mar 8, = 2009 at 6:00 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Has anyone tried to replace a worn-out pad button with a non worn-out
on a Behringer FCB1010 pedal?
--000e0cd16e809a4d3604649cbe59-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 15:04:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B13B3BE82; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=peGdYCv3L5Qy1mHRnwtCtGoHpG3gjnY7A0fOO8q/+uk=; b=XUxoSiIgMUYaq6MG2DiZOuZAexOZ9HR1ClBuYroiYc2JkkLRhasRVdDBMIY3TqJ5zu Puo+xvE1bIiQCedPlFD9CbJddPrKGTJ37OTywLx45jLzVga2/prWYvS1CTBS/fx5PBAo 3rSHd2I6Fkhz06jUa3CRzyRbHphkKy/Izc5JY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VQ0CT0q7jygzJobBQH/6uUBMppY7eJr/hcify8jaov14IjhAivz5Pc55+Mv50VbV3b yOp+N3hNIWdMlpyB2Duudyi7+EiA2hQJWOyh/LrA0+imwUhLKpN5laHiRK2rI8Hp2P+1 F0MFtm5yjNuL3OjbC/2aToyk27KfrAsuAGe5Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 07:04:12 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: EDP problem / new Midi controllers? From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1d50cb0775a04649cd4b3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:04:13 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1d50cb0775a04649cd4b3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The EDP is pretty old technology, by tech standards, but out of all the "missing" features (true stereo, USB updates, ability to quickly save and recall loops) the only one I really "miss" is MIDI learn. MIDI control for guitarists plummeted in popularity in the the post-grunge years, so the number of "advanced" MIDI controllers shrank, and we're left with large, generally expensive options. Had the EDP been able to associate any MIDI command with any EDP function, in the manner of all laptop-based solutions these days (or the LP-1), there'd be a lot of smaller, cheaper MIDI control options. Of course, there are good reasons not to implement the "standard" MIDI control protocol willy-nilly, and Kim has explained why it works the way it does, but still...I wish I could use my old, small, lightweight ADA MIDI controller instead of the FCB. TH On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Andreas Willers wrote: > > > I wish there was a compact, reliable, lightweight Midi solution for this. > No clumsy Behringer stuff for me, please! I use a combination of the analog > footcontroller and a Kenton Spin Doctor (velcroed on top of the EDP) for > Midi # control of Halfspeed etc. Any new controllers on the market? I am > fascinated by that bring-a-Mini-Mac-and-controll-it-with-your-IPhone thing! > --000e0cd1d50cb0775a04649cd4b3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The EDP is pretty old technology, by tech standards, but out of all the &qu= ot;missing" features (true stereo, USB updates, ability to quickly sav= e and recall loops) the only one I really "miss" is MIDI learn. = =A0MIDI control for guitarists plummeted in popularity in the the post-grun= ge years, so the number of "advanced" MIDI controllers shrank, an= d we're left with large, generally expensive options. =A0Had the EDP be= en able to associate any MIDI command with any EDP function, in the manner = of all laptop-based solutions these days (or the LP-1), there'd be a lo= t of smaller, cheaper MIDI control options.

Of course, there are good reasons not to implement the "= ;standard" MIDI control protocol willy-nilly, and Kim has explained wh= y it works the way it does, but still...I wish I could use my old, small, l= ightweight ADA MIDI controller instead of the FCB.

TH

On Fri, Mar 6, 200= 9 at 12:35 AM, Andreas Willers <a.willers@arcor.de> wrote:

<= br>
I wish there was a compact, reliable, light= weight Midi solution for this. No clumsy Behringer stuff for me, please! I = use a combination of the analog footcontroller and a Kenton Spin Doctor (ve= lcroed on top of the EDP) for Midi # control of Halfspeed etc. Any new cont= rollers on the market? I am fascinated by that bring-a-Mini-Mac-and-control= l-it-with-your-IPhone thing!

--000e0cd1d50cb0775a04649cd4b3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 15:11:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AEF43BE84; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 160023658/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.143.220/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.143.220 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkCAGt8s0lPTo/c/2dsb2JhbAAIj1bDKoQFBoZ+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,325,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="160023658" Message-ID: <49B3E225.2030909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:20:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <49B3D079.8030503@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <49B3D079.8030503@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:11:35 +0000 (UTC) van Sinn wrote: > > As an example, your Vortex inputs are instrument-level, Vortex input is designed to take either line level or instrument level. I use it at line level. ...and Mark has his Vortex set up just right :-) Mark, when you say one edp is noisy, do you mean the edp itself, or the whole signal chain with that edp in it? andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 15:45:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF5E83BE79; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_935f00ff-d3e2-456e-82df-be95f4647c99_" X-Originating-IP: [70.134.87.126] From: Denis Aldrich To: Subject: RE: GAIN STRUCTURE Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:45:24 -0700 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 15:45:24.0118 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5204360:01C9A004] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:45:24 +0000 (UTC) --_935f00ff-d3e2-456e-82df-be95f4647c99_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just as a trial=2C reduce the menu setting gain on the red sound federation= to Zero and see if you still get volume. It may be that it has a preset v= olume with gain adjustment on top of that. =20 =20 What I like to do for volume settings is reduce everything in the chain wit= h the guitar on full. This way any noise to sound ratios should not get am= plified beyond toleration. =20 Other than that=2C no idea. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_03200= 9= --_935f00ff-d3e2-456e-82df-be95f4647c99_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just as a trial=2C reduce the menu setting gain on the red sound federation= to Zero and see if you still get volume. =3B It may be that it has a p= reset volume with gain adjustment on top of that. =3B
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Find out = more. = --_935f00ff-d3e2-456e-82df-be95f4647c99_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 15:56:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4467F3BE7F; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM MacOS X Eudora Version 6.2J rev3.3 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 00:56:02 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: OT: CoCArt Music Festival @24-28Mar. 09,Poland Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi LD, Sorry for off topic. this is my next performance information, gig in Poland. :::II CoCArt Music Festival::: ::::::March 24-28, 2009:::::: Centre of Contemporary Art "Znaki Czasu", ul. Waly gen. Sikorskiego 13 [ACTS] REFORMED FACTION OF ZOVIET FRANCE Oren Ambarchi Z'EV Sunao Inami TROUM Vitor Joaquim + Hugo Olim COLUMN ONE Richard Pinhas + Jerome Schmidt + Milosh Luczynski MODULATE The Magic Carpathians HATI PURE Herman Muntzing VIDEOTURISTEN T.Gadomski/T.Mirt EMITER_FRANCZAK ---------- Robert Curgenven Dariusz Wojtas ---------- Wiktor Skok dj SZUm Goon Squad: dj Throt, dj Basa, dj Ash Miedziana Eliasz CoCArt Music Festival is organized by the Centre of Contemporary Art "Znaki Czasu" in Torun, Poland, in cooperation with members of HATI - Rafal X-NAVI Iwanski & Rafal SABON Kolacki. The main idea of the Festival is presentation of new trends in contemporary music. The artists who integrate music, image and performing arts present multimedia concerts, installations, workshops and after parties... Details: http://www.csw.torun.pl/dzialania/festiwale/cocart-music-festival-2009 http://www.myspace.com/cocartmusicfestival Regards Sunao http://www.electr-ohm.com http://www.myspace.com/sunao From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 16:55:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C903BE7C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B3F897.208@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 09:55:51 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: The Case Against True Bypass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:55:57 +0000 (UTC) I found this on line while researching all the threads about Input/Output gain and thought it would effect everyone: It is from Pete Cornish's really great website on pedalboard design. "Hey Pete, do you use True Bypass?" Look out there's a lecture coming: The "true bypass" function, which is promoted by some, can create dreadful problems with a system that uses many pedals. Take for instance a 15 ft guitar cable linked to ten pedals, each linked by a 2 ft cable, and then onto the amp by a 30 ft cable. If all pedals have "true bypass", and are off, then the total cable length hanging on the guitar output will be 63 ft. This will cause a huge loss of tone and signal level particularly if the guitar is a vintage type with low output and high impedance. The amp volume is then turned up and the treble control increased to compensate for the losses. The inherent background noise now increases by the amount of the gain and treble increase and is usually, in my experience, too bad for serious work. If one of the pedals is now switched on, then it's (hopefully) high input impedance (and usually low output impedance) will buffer all the output cables from the guitar and the signal level will rise due to the removal of some of the load on the pickups (i.e.: 17 ft instead of 63 ft of cable). The treble will rise and the tone and volume will not be as before. If that pedal was say a chorus or delay, devices which are usually unity gain, then your overall signal level and tone will vary each time an effect is added...not a very good idea. Some pedals have an input impedance which is far from high in real terms; the input impedance of the vast majority of amps is 1 Megohm (one million ohms) and in my experience there are few effects pedals that have the same input impedance. A load on the guitar of less than 1 Megohm will reduce the volume and high frequency content of the pickup signal thus giving rise to complaints that "this pedal looses tone/volume" etc. Many effects I have tested have an input impedance of less than 100 Kilohms (ie: only one tenth of the amp input impedance) and cause serious signal losses in the effects chain. My system, which I devised in the early 70's, is to feed the guitar into a fixed high impedance load, which is identical to the amp input, and then distribute the signal to the various effects and amps by low impedance buffered feeds. This gives a constant signal level and tonal characteristics, which do not change at all when effects are added. The proof that this works are in the recordings of our clients: Roxy Music; The Police; Queen; Pink Floyd; Bryan Adams; Lou Reed; Dire Straits; Paul McCartney; Sting; Jimmy Page; Judas Priest; Black Sabbath.... So the answer to your question re "true bypass" is no, I do not use this system in my Effects Boards/Racks as it can seriously degrade your sound. All my current effects pedals (excluding Vintage Series) which are derived from our large systems have, as the main input stage, a fiendishly clever pre amp that has the same characteristics as the input of a tube amp (1 Megohm/20pF), a highly efficient filter to eliminate the possibility of radio breakthrough and a low output impedance so that any following pedals/ cables etc. will not impose a load on the guitar signal. This pre amp is fitted to all our large stage systems and has always met with huge approval; not only from the guitarist but also the PA operator who is so happy to have constant level and tone presented to his mixing board. I go further with large systems and provide several inputs, each with the isolating pre amp and a gain compensation pre amp so that many different guitars can be level matched into the system. In addition a 20 segment PPM type display provides visual indication of signal level in our Effects Boards and Rack Systems. ©Pete Cornish 2003 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 16:56:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB3683BE75; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bQ6PtMaxAJa0vcWrR0YmseztFwIS1Zi+yLvFr2n7cw0=; b=lZcYveG19FXRGNYwgUViZb1L1FXwKGS0gujvTW30t3TBm3aPNoGhfg9grkTpofkpnE 9z3wMWGUFonVujerZHnjEEnk1r/5sUDyD/2qA1jmdh0tj6eSR1juT7UHTA3KEh6OK65/ lSmrvY83vObNxmdRzuHFN5kKpiFb5yoJuO13w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C96JtfL6Nxzwpl/wC4zlJ9hfGMtwpPIWdYnyg4M4AQRgJLqGAZrzhnEgYmxEfYT+67 xVx02tq3qrSNMwCONIeijdhG/3TUTRA8eFd+TrSqxdZtR2TVKvCcT/GZg1xuPKXRg0d9 10tdkO5M4J0AMLyKklZ7tz5a72IgrtVhnM4ok= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:56:33 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e53ad71ac4ec451a Message-ID: <101191640903080956n4d2b9932wace7974333b69147@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7V4BE.A.nyD.Bj_sJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:56:33 +0000 (UTC) I've been having a lot of trouble getting either Mobius or SooperLooper AUs to work properly within Mainstage. Mainstage seems to get flummoxed easily by too many midi streams floating around (esp once i then open MAX). However, I can report great excitement getting the Live 8 beta looper and Mainstage to work together - so I can use the greasy MS guitar presets I've been working up, pipe the audio into Ableton (via physical routing on a multi-channel audio interface), make loops in Ableton, and sync the fx in Mainstage to the tempo of the generated loop once i've completed it. I haven't tried this yet, but I'll wager you could put a SooperLooper AU into another channel in Live and have it slave, but not send clocks, after you've completed the first loop in the native Live looper. that way, you could do the fancier stuff like SUS functions. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 17:31:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07CB93BE73; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 10:31:49 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4KFBPC.A.CFF.KEAtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:31:54 +0000 (UTC) I'm researching plane fares to Europe and back and between cities in Europe for this summers' looping tour as are several people on this list. Below is a good article that I just googled about how to find the cheapest air fares. Any other nuggets of wisdom that people have found regarding things to make touring less expensive? These are mine and they are America-centric because..............well, that's where I live. Please chime in everyone else. We need to know how to get around on the cheap in your respective countries. We'd do the same for you if we had any kind of decent public transportation (outside of planes) but we don't..........that sucks! 1) One from me is that five years ago, touring Europe, one could just go to train station and buy an inexpensive ticket. Because of that, we did not pre-buy tickets before touring in 8 countries last summer and found, to our horror, that the British and European train companies had changed their pricing policies to reflect those of American Airlines (i.e., buying at the last minute costs an exorbitant jump in price). This was particularly brutal in London. I had such a long and ambitious tour that this ended up costing me hundreds of dollars more than I had anticipated: Buy tickets early...................but not too early (when they are also higher). I'd say anywhere from one to two months out from your trip 2) Also, for Americans, the price of petrol in Europe and the UK is staggering compared to what we are used to in terms of subsidized gasoline prices in the US all of our lives. If you are trying to save money, do not rent a car.............period........point................dot! Additionally, most Airplanes between cities only allow for 20 kg limit (which is lower than the traditional 50 lb. limit Americans are used to. Many extremely cheap flights limit baggage to 10 kg and the per/kg overweight fees can be astronomical. Flying from Stockholm to Glascow five years ago, we got a $45 flight and paid $600 of excess fees. Check your airline's excess baggage fees before you buy your ticket if you are carrying gear. It will save you tons of money. The high cost of flying (only with baggage overages as otherwise, it can be inexpensive) also precludes flying unless you can't help it or you have extreme time constraints. 3) Consequently, take trains!!!!!!!! subways!!!!!!!! graciously accept rides when they are proferred!!!!! Stay off of planes if you can help it. 4) Going from country to country, also look into Ferry's................frequently, they are much cheaper than going by other means. Instead of taking flight number two from Glascow to Belfast (another $45 flight with a $600 baggage overage), we took a ferry that costs $19. It took longer and I was forced to go live on the air of BBC Belfast from a remote phone out in the ocean instead of making a live appearance, but it saved mucho dinero. 5) Don't buy food at train stations if you are trying to save money. When possible, buy at local grocery stores or supermarkets before you go to the train station or airport. It just seems like a little bit extra to pay inflated station or airport prices but it really adds up over the long run (or else it did for Chris and I). 6) Transformers that will do the job kicking US 110 voltage up to 220 voltage are not cheap and they are very heavy to lug around. If possible, check ahead of time to see if the venue or promoter you are working with has one. You'd be surprised at how many places do, but don't count on it! Check ahead and assume nothing. The Y2K Festival finally went out and bought one and a lot of people putting on loop festivals are doing the same thing to accomodate their foreign guests. I also have left transformers with Paul Marshall in Belfast, Ireland and Luca Formentini near Lago Di Garda, Italy. Anyone who wants to can borrow those but they need to be returned or left with an active touring live looper somewhere in Europe or the British Isles so I can pick it up later. 7) Don't buy the MacBook Pro with the bitchen 17" screen! Those suckers are heavy and carrying them around hurts your back. You also have problems on many forms of transportation because the screen size is not really designed for travelling (especially on small aircraft). Save some major dough and buy the 13" or 15" 8) Don't catch this cold I have................it's friggin' miserable. 9) and now that article I promised earlier:* * Here are two words for a frugal flyer: Patience and Wednesday CP - Tue Mar 03, 11:26 PM EST By Joshua Freed And Harry R. Weber, The Associated Press Want to fly cheap? Time to break some bad habits. Like buying the first cheap ticket you see or waiting until the last minute to book a fare. As the economic slump continues and both business and leisure travel declines, fares are getting cheaper as airlines try to fill seats. A round-trip ticket from San Francisco to Boston, for instance, was selling on Feb. 4 for $238, down from $400 on Nov. 1. Even with such bargains, however, travellers need to know a few tricks to get the very best prices. First, don't hurry. Matthew D. Weyer sometimes spends hours researching fares online. Knowing what a ticket usually sells for allows him to spot cheap fares almost immediately. Weyer sets up email alerts for prices on the route he's shopping for at fare-watching sites like Kayak.com or Farecast.com. He finds out whether discount-carrier Southwest Airlines Co. flies a route. He also checks the ticket on booking sites like Travelocity or Orbitz. Weyer recently shopped for a flight from Greenville, N.C., to Chicago, a ticket he said commonly runs around $410. He was tempted at $280. He eventually paid $180 on Priceline.com. Weyer figures he spent about two hours spread over a couple of days searching for the ticket. Weyer starts shopping as far in advance as he can but doesn't book right away. He considers it safe to book between one and three months ahead of time. Legacy carriers generally show their schedules for about 11 months out. The window is shorter for discount carriers. Southwest's window is currently six months, and AirTran's is nine months. The 24-year-old Chicago college student and software programmer once flew for only $9 on Spirit Airlines from Chicago to Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., and says the most he has ever paid for a ticket is $240. Having a price in mind is good advice. A sense of timing helps, too. If you tend to make travel plans during weekend down time, reconsider. The best time to shop is late Monday or early Tuesday, some fare experts say. Airlines often start fare sales on Sunday night or Monday morning, said Rick Seaney of FareCompare.com. Those sales alone are fine if they include the flight you want. But other carriers generally match the fare sale by Monday evening or Tuesday morning, giving you more choices. Seaney said Wednesdays are generally the cheapest day to fly. Tuesdays and Saturdays are also good days to fly because demand is low and the airlines are trying to fill seats. It's natural for travellers to book their flight when the workday is done or the kids are asleep. But the airlines are posting fares on their own schedule. They file fares to the computer system that shares them among websites and travel agents three times each weekday - 10 a.m., 12:30 p.m. and 8 p.m. Eastern time. It's 5 p.m. Eastern on Saturdays and Sundays. That means fares can change at those times, so when you do see a fare at the price you're looking for, grab it. Former New Yorker Jill Gott of Providence, R.I., spent 2 1/2 weeks checking American Airlines' website several times a day before snagging a $109 round-trip ticket from New York-LaGuardia to Atlanta. She said it was only available for about three hours before jumping back up to $250. "I just decide what I want to pay for something, and I just keep clicking away until I get it," she said. But shopper beware. Fares start to rise again seven to 10 days before a flight - sometimes as long as 14 days or more, depending on the airline and sale offer. Airlines raise fares closer to the departure date because last-minute seats tend to be bought by business travellers and others who must fly at certain times. Roger Johnson, director of revenue management at New York-based JetBlue Airways Corp., notes that it can be risky for a flyer to delay buying a ticket in hopes it will be even cheaper. He says there's no good way for customers to know whether a fare sale will show up in their market. "They would be gambling that this would happen and would probably lose out more than they would win," he said. AirTran Airways spokesman Tad Hutcheson said his advice is simple: "I would follow the Moscow rule of shopping - you see it, you like it, you buy it." Where to buy also matters. For an airline ticket only, your best bet is an individual airline's website because you'll skip the extra fees some travel Web sites charge. Also, while Orbitz will show you a handful of round-trip flights from Baltimore to Austin, Texas, for instance, a key option is missing. Southwest doesn't sell on those sites. That means checking its website is a must if you're flying near a city they serve. For instance, on Feb. 24, Southwest was offering tickets on the Baltimore-Austin route for as low as $99, while Orbitz's cheapest offering was $193. If you're packaging airfare, hotel and a rental car, however, consider Orbitz and Travelocity, which often discount such bundles. Like Weyer, you can also try Priceline, where users can bid for tickets. A customer may end up with an undesirable itinerary, like flying in the wrong direction to make a connection, but the fare can sometimes be cheaper. Not all airlines, however, participate in Priceline's "name your own price" offer. Another piece of advice - learn to love St. Louis, Detroit, Chicago O'Hare, and other hub airports where you can connect to your final destination. Non-stops are convenient, desirable - and sometimes more expensive, said George Hobica, who runs airfarewatchdog.com. That's not always the case, though, so always compare. If travel isn't possible or desirable in the near term, don't worry. Tom Parsons, chief executive of travel website BestFares.com, said great fare sales are possible in the coming months for travel during the peak summer period. "I would keep watching and watching and watching," Parsons said. "This is a very fragile airfare system out there." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 17:52:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC6913BE75; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 163054215/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.143.220/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.143.220 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqkCACeis0lPTo/c/2dsb2JhbAAIj1fDNIQFBoZ+ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,325,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="163054215" Message-ID: <49B407F2.7050907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:01:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring References: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:52:49 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > > I'm researching plane fares to Europe and back and between cities in > Europe > > for this summers' looping tour as are several people on this list. > I thought we were all going round Europe together on the Loop Bus From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 17:53:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C9A3BE70; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ZlPN++5TrJR1Lo9qQn2jiTOOn/jH5nSFV8HI+qxX9SnIV6cv0/Mr34x3zSmqFb9TOBtkjduY6SA0UOLGQnRAN3IvuJIy51LLhZ8ZIGNjKql3EdChFBcl5X11f1D57OxgjUNq4Vi0a2XMps0KvGaw/gXudvTFJkAbsgt79jmZzPk= ; X-YMail-OSG: krOJqCYVM1n9NblyO5DTGKXbr5Rx1BRjzzxyjeVYmQEb3k5eE67SZ56roSn9vuRWssC_SM0BsWu8Oh8OWPPk0UTewJft3AQkxosF_C9LoexgWOk3T2JM_wLc0zh8VfOm_wX7SZ15sHIRBcvzX5CcwajvcKVSv.tdNLDD078.6r7iiqPyHwy87JpRTyfBJjByMQNV0eGOhDYpXoZy9BHwbeZJYnlnk5toK93H X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49B407F2.7050907@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> <49B407F2.7050907@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-529575513 Message-Id: <17E56435-BE42-423A-B330-D77216202862@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:53:33 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <2wPU4C.A.8hG.jYAtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:53:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-529575513 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed book us a ticket Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 8 Mar 2009, at 18:01, andy butler wrote: > > > Rick Walker wrote: >> I'm researching plane fares to Europe and back and between >> cities in >> Europe >> for this summers' looping tour as are several people on this list. > > I thought we were all going round Europe together on the Loop Bus > --Apple-Mail-3-529575513 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 book us a ticket=A0

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= --Apple-Mail-3-529575513-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 17:55:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F9343BE84; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 163589607/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.143.220/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.143.220 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgBAI6js0lPTo/c/2dsb2JhbAAI0xuEBQaGfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,325,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="163589607" Message-ID: <49B408B0.2010601@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:04:32 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Case Against True Bypass References: <49B3F897.208@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B3F897.208@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:55:58 +0000 (UTC) > > "Hey Pete, do you use True Bypass?" > > Look out there's a lecture coming: > > The "true bypass" function, which is promoted by some, can create > dreadful problems with a system that uses many pedals. > Take for instance > a 15 ft guitar cable linked to ten pedals, each linked by a 2 ft cable, > and then onto the amp by a 30 ft cable. If all pedals have "true > bypass", and are off, then the total cable length hanging on the guitar > output will be 63 ft. Rather an unlikely scenario I think :-) Mind you, I'd enjoy the performance possibilities of running up and down my 20ft pedal board, and rushing out to the parking lot to adjust the amp. andy (level match 101 on it's way) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 17:57:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4EDC3BE80; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 163590679/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.143.220/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.143.220 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgBAI6js0lPTo/c/2dsb2JhbAAI0xuEBQaGfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,325,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="163590679" Message-ID: <49B40926.90401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:06:30 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE 101 - Easy as you like References: <49B3AA33.9080908@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B3AA33.9080908@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6_Q-NB.A.Q1G.kcAtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 17:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Overview: Essentially we have 3 different types of connection, instrument(guitar), microphone and line. If you want the easy route, just remember never to mix those without some kind of device to convert from one to another, then scroll down to the section on levels. Microphones: Most of these output at mic level, particularly these days. If your mic outputs on an XLR socket, then consider that this is definitely the case. A microphone has to be plugged into a special kind of input called a microphone pre-amplifier (aka mic-pre) before it goes to anything else. You can use a dedicated mic-pre, or plug into some other piece of gear that has a mic input, like a mixer or some fx units. Guitars: These also need their own special kind of input, such as is provided by a stomp box, a DI box, an effect unit with "instrument" input, a guitar pre-amp or a regular guitar amp. Piezo pickups need special circuitry, which may be inside the guitar. Stomp Box: Generally, these are designed to accept a guitar being plugged into them. You may get away with plugging a mic that has a 1/4in jack lead on it into some stomp boxes, e.g. the DL4. Essentially, though, plugging a mic into a stomp box is very likely to not work well at all. The output from a stomp box is good for plugging into a guitar amp, DI box, or an effects unit with instrument input, and of course you can always connect another stomp box. If the stomp box doesn't have "hard bypass" (or if it's always switched on) it's possible to plug it into a line level input. Hard bypass means that the input and output of the stomp box are directly connected by a wire, so in bypass you need to treat that stomp box output exactly as if it were a guitar output. If there's no hard bypass, then the stomp box output is likely to be good for plugging into a line level input. Beware though, stomp boxes can be made with very cheap components and may significantly degrade your signal (e.g. Boss, though I don't know about the most recent products). It's possible to connect the aux send Impedance: Now we have to mention impedance, but only for completeness, you can skip this bit and just learn the "rules" if you like. Impedance is a quantity measured in Ohms, usually an input or an output will be called low impedance, or high impedance, but in every case it's also possible to represent that with a number with a big range of possible values. e.g. a line level output might be just a few ohms, a microphone output, say, 300 ohms, a guitar output 10,000 ohms and the input of a guitar amp with valve input can be 1,000,000 ohms. In order to get a good signal from the output of one device to the input of another the most efficient case is when the impedances match. It's usually case that a lower output impedance can be plugged into a higher input impedance. Impedance affects level of signal, but it is a totally separate consideration. Most microphones (usually with XLR) are low impedance, but some (mostly older ones) are high impedance. A high impedance mic (will have 1/4 in jack) will be more likely to work if you plug it into a stomp box or guitar amp. Matching Transformer: These are adapters to convert from:- a) low impedance to to high, which might help you plug your mic into a stomp box or guitar amp. b) high impedance to low, might help plugging a guitar into a line level input. Matching transformers aren't used much, and they pick up hum. Probably best to see them as only an emergency quick fix. Guitar Amp: Has an input especially designed for guitar which should only be used for guitar(or similar). May have output/input at line level. May have an fx loop designed for line level devices ( i.e. an output and input for you to insert a line level fx). DI Box: Convert from instrument(guitar) level to line level. In studios, some DI boxes convert to mic level. DI Boxes vary in quality and price from "a cheap box" to "sublime". Line Level Inputs: (Audio Interface, Mixer, FX Unit) This is what you'll find on a mixer, an audio interface or a rack mount fx unit. Things not to plug into line level inputs are microphones and guitars, even if you get a good level without too much noise the frequency range will be affected. Some mixer inputs are switchable from mic to line level. Phono Inputs: Some devices have an input designed for plugging in a turntable (eg DJ fx). These are not good for any other kind of signal. LEVEL SETTING: OK, now you've got your gear connected up. Each device in the chain should have the loudest possible signal running through it without distortion. We'd also like to have a nice high level running through each cable. Ideally, each device would have a meter to help you get the input level, in which case you simply follow the signal along starting from source (mic/guitar) at each stage turning up as far as possible without distortion. Of course you ought to turn down all levels before you start that. Some devices have a simple overload led monitoring the input, so turn up till it's going into the red, then ease back down a bit. An occasional flash into the red is usually ok, and is considered to be a sign that level is correct. Remember that most players will be quieter for soundcheck than for performance, in which case it may be worth taking level down a hint to compensate. If there's no metering on a device then have a guess on the level, followed by a troubleshooting session. Of course, what we want is zero distortion, and as little background noise as possible. To get rid of distortion: Start at the end of the chain, the opposite end to the instrument. Go to each level control in sequence. Turn it down gradually while listening to the distortion, if distortion clears up then you've found the problem, and you need to make up gain later in the chain (preferably one step further from instrument). If the distortion stays, getting quieter with the rest of sound, then turn that control back up and move on to the next control( one step nearer to instrument). To get rid of noise: Start at the beginning of the chain, at the instrument. Go to each level control in turn and try turning it down, when the noise drops as you do this, you found it's source. To reduce noise, take that control down, and make up the gain by turning up a control earlier in the chain (preferably one step closer to instrument). It may be necessary to go round the distortion and noise removing procedures a few times. Skim read the next bit in case you own a device which is covered by it:- Decibels:those -10dB and +4dB figures. Easy, it's just another volume control. If your device can switch between -10dB and +4dB levels then there's 2 possibilities 1) Pressing the button doesn't change the amount of output for a given input. In that case use the +4dB setting, and if that device introduces distortion go to -10dB. 2) Pressing the button makes the output louder/quieter, go for +4dB as long as the next device in the chain doesn't distort. Specially designed Inputs: Some devices are made for a variety of uses, the inputs are carefully made so that you can either plug in an instrument(guitar) or a line level device. (e.g. Lexicon Vortex, EDP ) A lot of people use a DL4 with a microphone plugged in direct, it seems to work well enough as the DL4 doesn't add much noise. Likely though a given mic won't match the DL4 input. Try some different mics (maybe an older model, with 1/4in jack, not XLR, more likely to be high impedance), try an impedance converting transformer ( lo to high ), or get a pre-amp. OK, that's all you actually *need* to know, feel free to skip the rest. Unnecessary Details: In this case, these Decibels are telling us a the signal strength that is expected by the device, or the kind of level that they can put out. -10dB was originally chosen for domestic equipment, so that the output of your cd player matches the input that your amp expects. However, volume wars also exists with cd players (stupid, but true), so manufacturers push up the output of their cd players to the max, and then have to reduce the sensitivity of their amplifiers to match. So, -10dB as a standard is essentially obsolete. +4dB is the standard in the recording studio for analog gear, it's louder than the old -10dB standard......by 14dB When you see dB markings on your mixer faders, these are slightly different in that they don't tell you how loud your signal is, they just give an indication of how much the level will vary when you move the fader. Decibels are always relative, but may be relative to an agreed standard, in which case (-10, +4) they are absolute. 1 decibel is considered to be the smallest noticeable volume increment. 6 decibel louder corresponds to a 2x increase in signal strength, but will not sound twice as loud, because your ear doesn't work like that. Your ear has what is called a logarithmic response, which means that a doubling of power in the signal only sounds like a step up in volume. That's why you're able to hear sound at an incredible range of levels, and why the Decibel scale is used to represent that. hope that helps andy butler Rick Walker wrote: > > still perplexed, Rick > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 18:20:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B00543BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 888 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:20:24 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=YNf+m5IcPCnFl45Yjsi7HWBEJm5WWpledQCNQnr2Gbk8HNBYCmmA5dEgRnn5OhSa; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <25466593.1236535536756.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 14:05:36 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: CoCArt Music Festival @24-28Mar. 09,Poland Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4890a819a82f46c3cb1d50bedcbee2a78fac30c6e5e32ee181350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:20:24 +0000 (UTC) WOW! yer playin w/ Oren Ambarchi?!! he is one of my all time favorite guitarers. good luck-that is a great bill. staninsanfran here is a vid of oren thats pretty long but i'm sure he is using a loop box of some kind-beautiful solo stuff. watch it probly wont load w/ my luck... http://www.orenambarchi.com/AmbarchiLive.mov -----Original Message----- >From: Sunao Inami >Sent: Mar 8, 2009 11:56 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: OT: CoCArt Music Festival @24-28Mar. 09,Poland > >Hi LD, > >Sorry for off topic. >this is my next performance information, gig in Poland. > >:::II CoCArt Music Festival::: >::::::March 24-28, 2009:::::: >Centre of Contemporary Art "Znaki Czasu", ul. Waly gen. Sikorskiego 13 > > >[ACTS] >REFORMED FACTION OF ZOVIET FRANCE >Oren Ambarchi >Z'EV >Sunao Inami >TROUM >Vitor Joaquim + Hugo Olim >COLUMN ONE >Richard Pinhas + Jerome Schmidt + Milosh Luczynski >MODULATE >The Magic Carpathians >HATI >PURE >Herman Muntzing >VIDEOTURISTEN >T.Gadomski/T.Mirt >EMITER_FRANCZAK >---------- >Robert Curgenven >Dariusz Wojtas >---------- >Wiktor Skok >dj SZUm >Goon Squad: >dj Throt, dj Basa, dj Ash >Miedziana >Eliasz > > >CoCArt Music Festival is organized by the Centre of Contemporary Art >"Znaki Czasu" in Torun, Poland, in cooperation with members of HATI - >Rafal X-NAVI Iwanski & Rafal SABON Kolacki. >The main idea of the Festival is presentation of new trends in >contemporary music. > The artists who integrate music, image and performing arts present >multimedia concerts, installations, workshops and after parties... > >Details: >http://www.csw.torun.pl/dzialania/festiwale/cocart-music-festival-2009 > >http://www.myspace.com/cocartmusicfestival > > > Regards > > Sunao >http://www.electr-ohm.com >http://www.myspace.com/sunao > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 18:24:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B65C3BE84; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:24:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 159609158/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.143.220/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.143.220 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgBAFyqs0lPTo/c/2dsb2JhbAAI0w+EBQaGfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,325,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="159609158" Message-ID: <49B40F4F.90003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:32:47 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring References: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> <49B407F2.7050907@tiscali.co.uk> <17E56435-BE42-423A-B330-D77216202862@btinternet.com> In-Reply-To: <17E56435-BE42-423A-B330-D77216202862@btinternet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3FWrD.A.TO.N1AtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:24:13 +0000 (UTC) help, I thought he was driving Matt Stevens wrote: > book us a ticket > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > > On 8 Mar 2009, at 18:01, andy butler wrote: > >> >> >> Rick Walker wrote: >>> I'm researching plane fares to Europe and back and between cities in >>> Europe >>> for this summers' looping tour as are several people on this list. >> >> I thought we were all going round Europe together on the Loop Bus >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 18:24:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F27F13BE8C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B40D55.5060404@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 12:24:21 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring References: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Great stuff, Rick, thanks. Hotels and food on the road is what really kills the budget. I go to great lengths to find people to crash with (and to be a good guest which is my nature anyway), and then usually buy some groceries at a supermarket to make a big breakfast and pack a lunch before hitting the road in the morning. Jars of Nutella and peanut butter, a loaf of bread, and some cans of tuna will last in the car for a while, and can serve to plug the belly between crash pads. Speaking for the States, I rent cars all the time. A single taxi fare in an urban area often costs as much as a day or even two days' rental, and terminals are never close to gigs, so I've chosen to avoid the bus/train route, though I don't like the environmental impact of a single-person passenger vehicle. I pick up hitchhikers (can't help it...used to be one) and they'll often kick in a bit for gas which helps. When renting cars, make sure to check all the major sites (Hertz, Dollar, Alamo are usually the best, though Budget and National can be good too) and visit their separate "specials" or "hot deals" page. If you just plug in your dates, you won't get their best sales, you need to see their specials page and get a code. When flying, I bring my heaviest gear on board with me. Airlines are still pretty lax about carry-on luggage, and though they say one "luggage" piece plus one bag or similar, I always bring a huge laptop bag stuffed with cables, plus two different shoulder bags with my four-tracks and a dictaphone and punch-in pedals, plus my travel guitar in its gigbag w/adapters and pedals in the pocket, and usually a plastic bag full of food and extra cords, too. Security will usually be confused by my tape decks and all the cables, but they never put everything all together to weigh it, and nobody seems charged with the responsibility of counting individual pieces, especially when they're oddly shaped. When I do have to stay in hotels, I always drive an hour or more outside of the big cities, the hotels along the highway are far cheaper than ones in town. For my summer tour, which is my most ambitious one so far (aiming for 50 dates), I'm considering packing a cheap tent and spending the evening in a state park campground for a couple of nights in places where I don't have contacts, rather than dropping $60-80 for a hotel. Security of gear and self is always top priority of course, which might outweigh the savings...we'll see. Oh yeah - and pack the minimum amount of clothing, all black to hide the dirt! seriously, I never pack more than a weeks' worth, people frequently offer to throw my few things in with a load of their family's wash. And small-town laundromats are cheap. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Any other nuggets of wisdom that people have found regarding things to > make touring less expensive? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 18:42:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A38F83BE85; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vysIM7aqykoDMuSx190DGfblQVrIck7UjNHzv38twF8=; b=Qd670jkq7jZyRqHI9mpQye+GOZc4opQ91+5uyZtzO6+eQkeSzKVL9K2A2cqhuY9yBZ VXbCE7EMxlz1KxEdHSFlFgCIP7h7g7pcRkUdasw4R+cO3Ef55Tn8Giyml5Os6nt3BfPb VMLSv7OMTK6IRy9Wxv533PsmlMK/CD3NP/Q1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C6zPoIprVMkQNab3GiYwkHYRt5I7WYTkd29UJ8UQPU96lxDN1EBFrUcBYBIa9owQNu agC7PsBd2W9c2QRxfMXVV54GA4pMpVuUzfm8Yg9gz1/AwPLck9ru/W8bq2BTL4U5M1Al 83+wEYblSVYPSTJIbBexgwc7/MWarFX7YAG2s= Message-ID: <49B41177.6040806@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:41:59 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Nevyn Nowhere schrieb: > So, the question: > > A)Is your music more story or sonic manipulation? Both, a purely emotional story (something you can't tell in rational words, music is not a language...) told by the means of sound... > B)Do you more often loop or sequence? mix? what measure of the two and > do they ever intermix? What is the difference? For me a sequence is a loop of events, versus a loop of pure sound. I mix the loops (a memory of the past) with the moment... > C)How do you feel looping vs sequencing affects "story" Its my instrument and thus my method of improvising my story. If you tell stories at the fire, you usually do rely on what you experienced in your life, but what and how you tell it, depends on the audience... > D)How do you feel music can be a story, if you feel such? It's an emotional story... > E)What's the latest "story" you're stoked on? and why? My hitchhikers diary... I am hitchhiking every two weeks between Berlin and Paris. I am looking for some musicians friends half way to Paris, and do a short session improvisation. That's my entry to my diary... Any looper who lives between Berlin and Paris is invited to participate... The first entries are about to be published by the way... This sort of story has two perspectives (the hitchhiker and the host), as any group playing probably has... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 18:42:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 782B43BE89; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 160121563/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.143.220/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.143.220 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgBANCus0lPTo/c/2dsb2JhbAAI0x+EBQaGfg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,325,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="160121563" Message-ID: <49B4137F.4070400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:50:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: wanted: suggestion for loop post processor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:42:18 +0000 (UTC) wanted: suggestion for loop post processor Currently I'm looking at the Lexicon MPX1 for the following reasons. 1) While it's a stereo device, it can be used to pan both inputs seperately, and to apply stereo fx to either (or both) 2) It has filters and tremolo and stuff which are midi-syncable 3) Maybe it's time to start using reverb. 4) Rack mount, 1U 5) Can hard pan delays L<>R 6) Can just about make a 4s loop of some sort with delays. 7) XLR Outs 8) Weight not *too* bad at 3Kg 9) Tweakable in most directions (LFO's, Envelopes, etc) 10) Lexicon Always previously I used 2 edps as a stereo pair (or left them hard panned if I de-synced them). Now , as I think I can use the Gordius LG footcontroller to command either both, or just one edp I'm looking into some way of center panning an re-stereoing them. Well, any suggestions as to alternative to MPX-1, however bizarre and unsuitable greatfully accepted. Any comments pr/com MPX1 would also help. Particularly "what happens when you change patch", is there a big gap? Or general rambling about post fx for loops if that's more fun. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 19:45:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E02953BE80; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=x8y39IByO+nzg83ZP2fT+GOtKTRIu69NBc35AmkMBKw=; b=XqsM7XUVc50QUn72rvpsOZni9QvVH1eus+qtsbfsL2tY5j2HgWtvykJTQ2oHP2nNKU PrUBM83M/IO2b7NdftmiPAvvGJYb/3qb9qx6QE0tT2tc+WP+fp3FWeU/cWJtN8ylmHQe EXMw3+CcmRRFgMEYmtGtazF9Se8LmAaPR2Zvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Im4r1PG/0BwTILFzh90lxa8L1sU16pyAQexfe/8ESq8TC/qwTxiPf17shE++t9cw+z N30WC3mnpzf7OC80pSXMhvWiDVDYuunA49gY4kPfNF9VHTFQ4VBLOvRLg3Yqo2M/D3po Ne0VvnZGxDRG7FNGC04bRjfLNC49GRJ7q+rH4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:45:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9c087153145b3980 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f796e2cc74860464a0c3db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:45:50 +0000 (UTC) --001485f796e2cc74860464a0c3db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, > Hmm this is new to me... I ALWAYS try to get my input as high as > possible... how can this be true... Im sure that its none of the gear, and > just a question of getting very precise levels... > Well, maybe I could have expressed it a little better ... ;-) Think of it this way: All electrical curcuits pick up noise. Mostly from long runs of wire that act like antennas. So you want as much signal as possible going through the wires relative to the noise. This is called 'signal to noise ratio' (duh!) So always turn the output up as much as possible before turning up the input it's connected to. If your input VU still isn't going near the red, *then* begin turning up the input gain until the VU start peaking. > Now, A guitar.. thats instrument level right? > Right. You are basically dealing with 2 types of signal: guitars and everything else. A normal electric guitar has passive electronics (no batteries) so it needs to be plugged directly into a high-impedance (hi-Z) input to 'load' the guitar's curcuit in the correct manner. Otherwise it will sound dull and lifeless. Typically your guitar will be plugged into a 9V-powered stompbox or amplifier input. Once your guitar signal is past this first hi-Z hurdle it can be considered a line-level signal just like everything else. > Is +4 line an - 11 instrument? > These are both line-level signals. +4 dB is considered the 'professional' standard, whereas -10 dB is the 'consumer' standard. If you're mixing pro-grade and consumer gear then switch the pro gear to -10 dB if possible. That way you can keep your signals as 'hot' as possible relative to the 'standard'. If the gear doesn't have -10/+4 switch then don't worry about it. Just keep things as hot as possible and everything will be fine. Just one thing to look out for: If you plug a pro +4 dB output into a consumer -10 dB input, you *can* risk damaging the input if you turn the output up too loud. So, in such a situation, start with both input and output at minimum gain, then slowly bring up the output until you get a good signal on the input. The pro gear's output will probably only need to be turned up to about 1/3 of its travel. Consumer gear going into pro gear is not dangerous for your gear, but you may need to turn up the input gain quite a bit to even register a signal, even with the consumer output maxed out. > However, I suspect that actually everything is instrument level... > Nope. Everything except passive electric guitars (and certain types of microphone) is line-level. > Both my EDP effects (the redsound federation and the Roland ef 303) are > actually aimed at DJ's... therfore have phone plugs... so what does that > make them? > Probably consumer line-level (-10dB). > OH.. And one more question about SEND LEVELS: > One each channel of the mixer there is a send knob, but there is an overall > send level. > What is better, keeping the overall knob really high and just dialling in a > tiny amount of level per channel? > OR the reverse, turning the send FULL UP to send to the loopers, and having > the overall level really low... > OR... Having both low and turning UP the EDP input level control, > OR having both really HIGH, but keeping the edp level really really low... > A send is just another kind of output. So hot as possible (within reason). I'd turn the channel sends up to about half or 2/3 full, then the master send up until the EDP registers a good signal without turning up its input gain much. That way you have some 'tweak room' at every stage in the chain. Hope this helps a bit. Ian --001485f796e2cc74860464a0c3db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark,

Hmm this is new to me... I ALWAYS try to get = my input as high as possible... how can this be true... Im sure that its no= ne of the gear, and just a question of getting very precise levels...

Well, maybe I could have expressed it a li= ttle better ... ;-)

Think of it this way:=A0All el= ectrical curcuits pick up noise. Mostly from long runs of wire that act lik= e antennas. So=A0you want as much signal as possible going through the wire= s relative to the noise. This is called 'signal to noise ratio' (du= h!) So always turn the output up as much as possible before turning up the = input it's connected to. If your input VU still isn't going near th= e red, *then* begin turning up the input gain until the VU start peaking.
=A0
Now, A guitar.. thats instrument level right?
Right. You are basically dealing with 2 types of signal: guitars and e= verything else. A normal electric guitar has passive electronics (no batter= ies) so it needs to be plugged directly into a high-impedance (hi-Z) input = to 'load' the guitar's curcuit in the correct manner. Otherwise= it will sound dull and lifeless. Typically your guitar will be plugged int= o a 9V-powered stompbox or amplifier input. Once your guitar signal is past= this first hi-Z hurdle it can be considered a line-level signal just like = everything else.=A0
=A0
Is +4 line an - 11 instrument?

These = are both line-level signals. +4 dB is considered the 'professional'= standard, whereas -10 dB is the 'consumer' standard. If you're= mixing pro-grade and consumer gear then switch the pro gear to -10 dB if p= ossible. That way you can keep your signals as 'hot' as possible re= lative to the 'standard'. If the gear doesn't have -10/+4 switc= h then don't worry about it. Just keep things as hot as possible and ev= erything will be fine.=A0

Just one thing to look out for: If you plug a pro +4 dB= output into a consumer -10 dB input, you *can* risk damaging the input if = you turn the output up too loud. So, in such a situation, start with both i= nput and output at minimum gain, then slowly bring up the output until you = get a good signal on the input. The pro gear's output will probably onl= y need to be turned up to about 1/3 of its travel.

Consumer gear going into pro gear is not dangerous for = your gear, but you may need to turn up the input gain quite a bit to even r= egister a signal, even with the consumer output maxed out.
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However, I = suspect that actually everything is instrument level...
=

Nope. Everything except passive electric guitars (and certai= n types of microphone) is line-level.
=A0
Both my EDP effects (the redsound federatio= n and the Roland ef 303) are actually aimed at DJ's... therfore have ph= one plugs... so what does that make them?

Probably consumer line-level (-10dB).=A0
=A0
OH.. And one more que= stion about SEND LEVELS:
One each channel of the mixer there is a send knob, but there is an overall= send level.
What is better, keeping the overall knob really high and ju= st dialling in a tiny amount of level per channel?
OR the reverse, turning the send FULL UP to send to the loopers, and having= the overall level really low...
OR... Having both low and turning UP t= he EDP input level control,
OR having both really HIGH, but keeping the= edp level really really low...

A send is just another kind of output. So = hot as possible (within reason). I'd turn the channel sends up to about= half or 2/3 full, then the master send up until the EDP registers a good s= ignal without turning up its input gain much. That way you have some 't= weak room' at every stage in the chain.

Hope this helps a bit.

=A0=A0I= an
--001485f796e2cc74860464a0c3db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 19:54:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 000363BE88; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9A027.C01C7F1B" Subject: Touring Europe Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:54:54 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D2DF@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Touring Europe Thread-Index: AcmgJ7+6RGNK4QlsQHmBSz0wKTEXDg== From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 19:54:54.0555 (UTC) FILETIME=[C033AAB0:01C9A027] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:54:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A027.C01C7F1B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, thought I would chime in here. =20 I have toured Europe many times with a five piece Bluegrass band, and = for sure flying is the way to go right now, trains are much more = expensive. The last tour I booked was all over europe, and for about 12 = flights, the average cost per flight was only about $50 per person, this = is like for flying to Budapest today, Paris tomorrow, etc. =20 BUT, like Rick says, watch out for those luggage fees, they will get = you. What we found was the best plan was to carry on whenever possible. = In europe (last year at least) the restrictions on carrying on an = instrument are much less ridiculous. For example, in London we checked = in, paid a bunch for overweight because the gate agent told us no = instruments can be carried on, and when I got to security there was a = dude with a full size cello going through and I asked the security = people, and they told me that there was a rule that the airlines HAD to = let musicians carry on their instruments, too late for us on that one, = but later we used it to full advantage. Also, they looked at me like I = was a moron, "of COURSE you can carry on an instrument" and also, they = DID not count it against my carry on bag limit. Now, be careful, if it = wont fit in the overhead you are going to have to gate check it. That is = why I try to use Calton flight cases, that way, if possible I carry it = on, if not it will still be ok in the luggage. Planes are smaller over = there, be careful, if you are using a soft case, and you have to check = it, you are screwed. Our bassist uses an upright electric, big old box, = pain in the ass. =20 The 10 or 20 kg limit rule is also a toughie, but what I do is wear = cargo pants, it is really amazing how much you can stuff in there weight = wise, and that helps when you are paying about 6 to 10 dollars PER POUND = for overweight luggage. =20 Also, on lots of the budget airlines, you can pay a small fee, about 10 = to 20 bucks, to board early, this is a very important tool in your = flying arsenel, if you can board first, your chance of getting an = instrument on or stowed somewhere are much better. Remember, in europe = musicians are revered and respected, not treated as idiot scumbags like = we are sometimes in the states, this helps too. Also, when loading or in = the gate area, dont be conspicous, hold larger things to your side, be = smart, it helps. Also, have a lot of swag around, just a cd or something = to a gate agent has help A LOT. =20 Of course ground transport is ground transport, always best to have a = friend deal with that. Hostels are the cheapest place to stay, and most = are really nice, they cater to kids, but old codgers like me can stay = there too. =20 Be careful how you pack your electronics, they will sometimes check them = for a long time, leave plenty time for security, and also, I have had = mandolin strings confiscated several times, so put strings in checked = luggage if you can, try to find mandolin strings in Armenia = sometime!!!!!!! =20 I've played in 50 countries and hope to play in 100 before I'm done. I = love it. =20 Looping is kind of new to me, well not new I guess as I have been = building my system for almost two years. I am using Looperlative LP1, = Rance Cm 86 mixer (THE BEST LOOPING MIXER ask me why..) a Novation Zero = midi controller with small keyboard, a Yamaha TG55 for key sounds, a = Hammond XM-1 for organ, a Digitech 1101 for my acoustic instruments, a = TC M300 for effects and a Fishman Aura for all my acoustic instrument = preamp settings. Then I have a midibuddy for LP1 commands.=20 =20 I have ready, not all are used on every song of course, or even every = gig, but I have ready, preamp sounds set, digitech settings saved, for = acoustic mandolin, electric mandolin, octave mandolin, mandola, electric = mandola, fiddle, electric and acoustic banjo, lap steel, pedal steel, = electric and acoustic guitar, mandocello, bass and of course whatever = keys I have set on a particular song. Of course I have hand percussion = too, and mics for vocals and a Digitech V4 for harmonies or vocal = effects, and both mics go through the CM86 so they can be looped too. I = use a Furman 16 channel in the ear monitor setup and a California Blonde = amp from SWR if I need an amp and an alesis hr16 for drums sounds. Then = all this is tied in to a Nuendo system on laptop for recording, but I = loop on the LP1, dont trust a laptop for that. =20 I work on my rig every day, always something to get it where I want it, = but almost there, just added some midi solutions thru and merge boxes to = clean up midi going through so many things. Technically I'm real happy = with where it is right now, it's just time to start working more on the = musical side of things. I dont do much pure ambient music, of course I = can and do some, but I am more about live tracking of my songs. It sure = is easy to get a nice loop going, but getting to that next song is sure = the bitch as you all know, can fade EVERY one, lol. =20 The Rane CM86 I think is a great loopers mixer. It is eight channels, = two aux sends per chanell, which can be switched pre or post, which is = good, pre puts it in the effects unit, post takes it out, which is easy = way to switch on effects on the fly, also there is a mic/line switch on = the front of each ch, so you can use that as an on/off, or have both = inputs plugged in if you like to switch back and forth. There is a tape = in that can be another stereo chanell, and it is true A/B stereo, with a = master one and two out, so you can send A to monitor, B to the LP1, then = bring the LP1 back in on the tape loop, works great. Each channel has an = insert also, and switchable phantom for each channel. Also what is cool = is that there is no pan, each channel has concetric pots with both A and = B sends. You can see the manual on Rane.com They dont make it now, but = I bet they can be found. It looks like that three rack space Behringer = but better. =20 OK, enough for now. =20 Andy Owens www.andyowens.com =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A027.C01C7F1B Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Hello all, thought I = would chime in here.
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I have toured Europe many times with a = five piece Bluegrass band, and for sure flying is the way to go right = now, trains are much more expensive. The last tour I booked was all over = europe, and for about 12 flights, the average cost per flight was only = about $50 per person, this is like for flying to Budapest today, Paris = tomorrow, etc.
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BUT, like Rick says, watch out for = those luggage fees, they will get you. What we found was the best plan = was to carry on whenever possible. In europe (last year at least) the = restrictions on carrying on an instrument are much less ridiculous. For = example, in London we checked in, paid a bunch for overweight because = the gate agent told us no instruments can be carried on, and when I got = to security there was a dude with a full size cello going through and I = asked the security people, and they told me that there was a rule that = the airlines HAD to let musicians carry on their instruments, too late = for us on that one, but later we used it to full advantage. Also, they = looked at me like I was a moron, "of COURSE you can carry on an = instrument" and also, they DID not count it against my carry on bag = limit. Now, be careful, if it wont fit in the overhead you are going to = have to gate check it. That is why I try to use Calton flight cases, = that way, if possible I carry it on, if not it will still be ok in the = luggage. Planes are smaller over there, be careful, if you are using a = soft case, and you have to check it, you are screwed. Our bassist uses = an upright electric, big old box, pain in the ass.
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The 10 or 20 kg limit rule is also a toughie, but what I do is wear = cargo pants, it is really amazing how much you can stuff in there weight = wise, and that helps when you are paying about 6 to 10 dollars PER POUND = for overweight luggage.
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Also, on lots of the budget airlines, you can pay a small fee, = about 10 to 20 bucks, to board early, this is a very important tool in = your flying arsenel, if you can board first, your chance of getting an = instrument on or stowed somewhere are much better. Remember, in europe = musicians are revered and respected, not treated as idiot scumbags like = we are sometimes in the states, this helps too. Also, when loading or in = the gate area, dont be conspicous, hold larger things to your side, be = smart, it helps. Also, have a lot of swag around, just a cd or something = to a gate agent has help A LOT.
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Of course ground transport is ground transport, always best to have = a friend deal with that. Hostels are the cheapest place to stay, and = most are really nice, they cater to kids, but old codgers like me can = stay there too.
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Be careful how you pack your electronics, they will sometimes check = them for a long time, leave plenty time for security, and also, I have = had mandolin strings confiscated several times, so put strings in = checked luggage if you can, try to find mandolin strings in Armenia = sometime!!!!!!!
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I've played in 50 countries and hope to play in 100 before I'm = done. I love it.
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Looping is kind of new to me, well not new I guess as I have been = building my system for almost two years. I am using Looperlative LP1, = Rance Cm 86 mixer (THE BEST LOOPING MIXER ask me why..) a Novation Zero = midi controller with small keyboard, a Yamaha TG55 for key sounds, a = Hammond XM-1 for organ, a Digitech 1101 for my acoustic instruments, a = TC M300 for effects and a Fishman Aura for all my acoustic instrument = preamp settings. Then I have a midibuddy for LP1 commands.
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I have ready, not all are used on every song of course, or even = every gig, but I have ready, preamp sounds set, digitech settings saved, = for acoustic mandolin, electric mandolin, octave mandolin, mandola, = electric mandola, fiddle, electric and acoustic banjo, lap steel, pedal = steel, electric and acoustic guitar, mandocello, bass and of course = whatever keys I have set on a particular song. Of course I have hand = percussion too, and mics for vocals and a Digitech V4 for harmonies or = vocal effects, and both mics go through the CM86 so they can be looped = too. I use a Furman 16 channel in the ear monitor setup and a California = Blonde amp from SWR if I need an amp and an alesis hr16 for drums = sounds. Then all this is tied in to a Nuendo system on laptop for = recording, but I loop on the LP1, dont trust a laptop for that.
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I work on my rig every day, always something to get it where I want = it, but almost there, just added some midi solutions thru and merge = boxes to clean up midi going through so many things. Technically I'm = real happy with where it is right now, it's just time to start working = more on the musical side of things. I dont do much pure ambient music, = of course I can and do some, but I am more about live tracking of my = songs. It sure is easy to get a nice loop going, but getting to that = next song is sure the bitch as you all know, can fade EVERY one, = lol.
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The Rane CM86 I think is a great loopers mixer. It is eight = channels, two aux sends per chanell, which can be switched pre or post, = which is good, pre puts it in the effects unit, post takes it out, which = is easy way to switch on effects on the fly, also there is a mic/line = switch on the front of each ch, so you can use that as an on/off, or = have both inputs plugged in if you like to switch back and forth. There = is a tape in that can be another stereo chanell, and it is true A/B = stereo, with a master one and two out, so you can send A to monitor, B = to the LP1, then bring the LP1 back in on the tape loop, works great. = Each channel has an insert also, and switchable phantom for each = channel. Also what is cool is that there is no pan, each channel has = concetric pots with both A and B sends. You can see the manual on = Rane.com  They dont make it now, but I bet they can be found. It = looks like that three rack space Behringer but better.
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OK, enough for now.
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Andy Owens
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A027.C01C7F1B-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 20:15:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 224933BE79; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8qwG8I3IFVyivEgkW8E/PxTWXVSJY9j1rLjUhg1vB/4=; b=dpoCqXvIfUCiCdiFTMH/wCkJ9bjFe1QHTRtgvNDtbJ9rQauZXcoIEcSRqZst4XRjza Lv+/94lN15d0UfgRv6ECjAT8NsrH4MvDF7bJmRNH2D1FWS/ZKhrc4VwSLweOzKV/aC7n ZgOraVi1ujKforCxbOy4/hglKMEY2jMIQgazA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cHnPMAGYV/Tc6Skcq8uE1rYZvO9Zpd3QeeBans7OmJ+pnFe9GtYj2+ySDqHzwT6WSw CTk5IG9rWlGIAD6z2HHMJ9wK/EEU6RWqayVCuKWMlRqRUqEisa5DlrPJusBUc4vWBk37 47Luh/beBFhNYs19EeWcUb3NVP1NbcFRy5yV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:15:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ec224308ad8738d4 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903081315n570a8208x3caa77614556387d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b9e8afada20464a12e7e Resent-Message-ID: <-w8AED.A.erD.vdCtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:15:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b9e8afada20464a12e7e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GREAT STUFF PER... I dont think my effects are ACTUALLY phono level.. as in turntable level..(god you are right about the peater having a dedicated socket- blimey they chucked alot of useless stuff onto that machine...) I think they are designed to plug into a DJ mixer. so line level... er right??? One Q Always crank the send up to 0 dB. Then adjust the looper's input gain to receive the feed properly. How do I know its at 0 db? Surely the numbers on the knob are purely arbitary (this one goes to eleven?)... m... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --001636c5b9e8afada20464a12e7e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable GREAT STUFF PER...
I dont think my effects are ACTUALLY phono level.. a= s in turntable level..(god you are right about the peater having a dedicate= d socket- blimey they chucked alot of useless stuff onto that machine...) I= think they are designed to plug into a DJ mixer. so line level... er right= ???

One Q

Always crank the send up to 0 dB. Then adjust the looper&#= 39;s input gain
to receive the feed properly.

How do I know its at 0 db? Surely the = numbers on the knob are purely arbitary (this one goes to eleven?)...
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--001636c5b9e8afada20464a12e7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 20:17:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9F323BE82; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:17:47 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236543065; bh=gyhXTC4hviJsF0XNOh2f0A9uE8plrop/XrvglfCteFU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CT93vO5KqBVBiKanH9aIjisM1NZn0038Lg0T4o0FTMeATGUS6cVgs1Nl91fAqg7wCqB+7U1RQkn0BSfxoEetr1sevyLqEHSO/RwEEK1Zs+wKI/2nYB2E4pem7fcCcfBZx2sLPKZCUFEqU6YX2BpkpmCvgHcq3bOdz8/Sy8ZAgms= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=25V8g/NvaAI+XWd7LJj1fEPk9yyrp8zz+KmeNzj1W/CUKzHqyv11/3hIfrvsQncyIHgMwEWO5l1rswCLqk1yWCVctpUyxXyDcdQomYh/gr4/hocrIhJmTnxae63adwbHFdQwFvT1yxz7/8GhMxB+PzU6WeC3OJ6b0uSW+UYA3JE=; Message-ID: <441508.36905.qm@web45309.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PZPTlVUVM1nKtGPYgV_6ELQrQxfh4h8BGPO.VzA0r1Pc5C823KVX9E4d6eB4UqJkFdrLejI3.3K2kzYoARVR31wNdtkrk0ylrVN4PYSfoOBfORlP_iMUlrMzpylQyiUngXymW0xz3smAYVOXjTTvvYxWk1J40Z7hlnqkgeupL65QQcZ7Z.3hA93EsdgXMfh1DWXCJg3E_ukZlAo49BvPUa_hPb_YFBzZ._frPMe9eh8sVIgWP14Dy9VRy.Yb_aeqZET52jyJi_l4_yF.ez8.HYwmiP4A0vxP7nFsw8k- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:11:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: RPM CD - Jim Goodin - Vertical released To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Very cool, Jim!=0A=0AI enjoyed your video as well, with an aerial view of s= ome of your loopstuff: =0A=0A= I've got four tracks of my RPM project posted on my MySpace page; they're t= he ones with the birds on 'em!=0A=0A-t-=0A=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/nimblet= unes=0Ahttp://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson=0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/speleman62= =0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, 3/1/09, Jim Goodin wrote:= =0A> Some you possibly joined me in=0A> participating in the annual Februar= y RPM Challenge (www.rpmchallenge.com).=0A> =A0My 2009 RPM CD is titled Ver= tical and I'm=0A> posting it here for download.=0A> =0A> For Vertical I use= d fretless guitar, oud,=0A> violin, voice and I'm proud to say for this lis= t's=0A> interest, looping technology (EHX 2880). =A06 of the 18 trax=0A> ar= e heavily looped.=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 20:18:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67D523BE82; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-05.arcor-online.net DA111332AD3 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236543503; bh=E6emlh46+3hiYRq36FQnO6fWhkG696z9sf3GcnKQYao=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=EeCTWB+eZlm/LT16sX7kog4tsUw7ksEubR7CHUsuuxOwe zw5gTMWZit7EVxYwaqPCHuye+w1W2sxHrdEs+QuFxPY/JCZXj6BiW1a2op/7EB6bZ0m vY8o8U8sbVn+1h8Z4Irpy4MDLYRDt95V/idaW3wd/x1ZfGBKA78pNWhcjMs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <08DD0F3A-E30C-4D40-AB2C-EE977270CF5E@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:18:22 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9080/Fri Mar 6 20:13:38 2009 on mail-in-05.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Rick, in Europe there is still a big price war amoung the cheap airlines that keeps costs ridiculously low. You can find very cheap flights all over the net, for example: http://reise.idealo.de/ http://www.opodo.de/ http://www.billigfluege.de/ also try the Air Berlin, Easy Jet, RyanAir, GermanWings websites directly. Be aware though for hidden booking fees (although illegal), baggage surcharges etc.etc. RyanAir suposedly wants to charge one pound soon for using the onboard toilet! The situation will change sooner or later, right now it's still cheap. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 20:36:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D3F83BE86; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=32HFNmdeNdHs1lyMwZ5XGNpzOgcNBEYBlk4bZx44w3U=; b=PqPzkwKUTCa5MTJH5TGTVorUKf82nL0N0szr1dhXu83b0zWYjGxMh8GGlYsAkOfynz EGPlVuZYRSrgJtxMKtHs5pAdN/aG7C/qqxriMjX54Af6IWy6lRdexsuDbHPNBQhQyskj StmGt7EOcwUlleZgn3KtUGYyj7ve8Z3xliPNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=FP37AOLI2eqbZJes0VwBc+cY7Yb6Isk4u3aQ6McSxDS20FualTzxhnCqCk6waBigTF l6yayv1HhaBT4f6539aKfOkgxT+ALxP3CINTtjk/lD/wdBzFy6AlOIUnf7aU54tI+YmH 09RZOjkRtQYb6tX8HVkTRxaH9pyOXiqeBLce4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <49B3E225.2030909@tiscali.co.uk> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <49B3D079.8030503@post.cybercity.dk> <49B3E225.2030909@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:36:23 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3bd32f1135c93e20 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903081336p691b0b46m45f693e88e213c16@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dd9670aa802e0464a17879 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:36:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dd9670aa802e0464a17879 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > ...and Mark has his Vortex set up just right :-) Wow.. I do? It sure doesnt sound as good as your on you Vortex site Andy!!! > Mark, when you say one edp is noisy, do you mean the edp itself, > or the whole signal chain with that edp in it? > Yeah, just one is noisy, but Im almost certain its the effect its going thru... as I have kids, I havent had time since posting to try out obvious things like.. trying the edp on its own ha ha!!! I just got my second EDP, and HAD to plug it in and loop... and despite the hiss and the distortion... I had alot of fun... What I DID notice, that I cant blame the effect on, is that this edp seemed dull. Definately some top being cut somewhere. I never noticed before cos my old mixer had EQ. and posibly I was EQ-ing the shit out of everything to A) reduce hiss, and B) match the loop eq with the instument... Im so glad this thread has been of interest, I was not embarrassed to post, quite the contrary... I KNOW I will get good answers and help here. I have NOT devoted my life to making pristine and sparkling music, quite the contrary, and frankly production (ok OVER production) bores me... no.. still wrong... THE SOUND of production bores me. Gimme Pussy Galore over Pink Floyd ANY DAY... but... there are limits... and I really want to have a nice clean sanitary slate on which to scrape my filthy layers of dirty infected pus ridden noise that I call music... ha ha!! M > > andy butler > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --0016e6dd9670aa802e0464a17879 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

...and Mark has his Vortex set up just right :-)

Wow..= I do? It sure doesnt sound as good as your on you Vortex site Andy!!!
<= br>

Mark, when you say one edp is noisy, do you mean the edp itself,
or the whole signal chain with that edp in it?

Yeah, just one is noisy, but Im almost certain= its the effect its going thru... as I have kids, I havent had time since p= osting to try out obvious things like.. trying the edp on its own ha ha!!! = I just got my second EDP, and HAD to plug it in and loop... and despite the= hiss and the distortion... I had alot of fun...

What I DID notice, that I cant blame the effect on, is that this edp se= emed dull. Definately some top being cut somewhere.
I never noticed befo= re cos my old mixer had EQ. and posibly I was EQ-ing the shit out of everyt= hing to A) reduce hiss, and B) match the loop eq with the instument...

Im so glad this thread has been of interest, I was not embarrassed to p= ost, quite the contrary... I KNOW I will get good answers and help here. I = have NOT devoted my life to making pristine and sparkling music, quite the = contrary, and frankly production (ok OVER production) bores me... no.. stil= l wrong... THE SOUND of production bores me. Gimme Pussy Galore over Pink F= loyd ANY DAY...=A0 but... there are limits... and I really want to have a n= ice clean sanitary slate on which to scrape my filthy layers of dirty infec= ted pus ridden noise that I call music... ha ha!!

M



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--0016e6dd9670aa802e0464a17879-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 20:46:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC6203BE86; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236545165; bh=i0urXwVTGj9BVe/Agf+DWTYBJrhwu8xUcdiq8mGTWoQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R/0vnCmx3Bn6FaHcwhgX4R1nvroli8nGgSlRYDaNEzZdUc8+SbXC+EVir2kf74pVIgcOhiTwf/UqZNI9YFZcdOs4yMjHKoy0uV3RXSRoEOul10TisAHIYWck9dMVzcgdKEOnPrb/8wYF+OcH4/cwl/+7Eknwl6Eox+T7R/LAJB0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zw7Ye5yy4tPpxPQZ9zLArFbzJ1fJMhkHh0CUuW2j9wH02RySqWkshHasPNAHoqMqhhYsvEYKfC7CSVevzWhLF1ffZrS/bTdgNcR9qFudMKTZR3RdtGsnGBZIWGERC6CLzF0VNEOmJ8lJUYN4Q/8to6ic60anEA+3XpuOlcjMsdI=; Message-ID: <323489.39834.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bkd48gsVM1nz.VLFek9m8bHB6v6._7uazlPgAf_EZjZ1TfanY40stdepHcIwbAhKmzrFLXZYPCKedNGD7i8Wy5V6HsK4vFrxoMo6kZNMtcKu0CNy6XwTX9L42.MD78L4jBf7lBCI0Ace.ht4CAwd44BIRPfKwF6E2oELfDDcy21hz5VWCkChOBF6rd_jXiMmoejy3jjqOit3OXnfhNJEDUxAmg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 13:46:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: OT: (sorta) Laptop Suggestions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-376281711-1236545165=:39834" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:46:06 +0000 (UTC) --0-376281711-1236545165=:39834 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi: =A0 I've been thinking about replacing my desktop with a new PC to get more mem= ory, a faster CPU, etc. I was leaning towards a desktop as I have at least = one PCI card I'd like to continue to use. However, with the continual reduc= tion in price of laptops, I've been thinking more of this direction just fo= r space considerations as well as the portability. =A0 I'm going to stay with the Windows platforms and have been toying with a ve= ry reasonable priced Gateway w/2GB memory and an Intel dual core CPU for $6= 50. Heck, I think I have only 1/2 GB memory on my desktop and I've been abl= e to run Reason, Cubase & ACID w no problems (plus others). Even the config= mentioned above would be a major improvement for me. =A0 What kinds of Windows-based laptops are folks on this board using? Any word= s of wisdom on what to look out for?=20 =A0 Also, I've been leaning towards an Intel chip rather than AMD. Any comments= on that opinion? =A0 Regards, Paul =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-376281711-1236545165=:39834 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi:
 
I've been thinking about replacing my desktop with a new PC to get mor= e memory, a faster CPU, etc. I was leaning towards a desktop as I have at l= east one PCI card I'd like to continue to use. However, with the continual = reduction in price of laptops, I've been thinking more of this direction ju= st for space considerations as well as the portability.
 
I'm going to stay with the Windows platforms and have been toying with= a very reasonable priced Gateway w/2GB memory and an Intel dual core CPU f= or $650. Heck, I think I have only 1/2 GB memory on my desktop and I've bee= n able to run Reason, Cubase & ACID w no problems (plus others). Even t= he config mentioned above would be a major improvement for me.
 
What kinds of Windows-based laptops are folks on this board using? Any= words of wisdom on what to look out for?
 
Also, I've been leaning towards an Intel chip rather than AMD. Any com= ments on that opinion?
 
Regards, Paul
 

=0A= =0A --0-376281711-1236545165=:39834-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 20:58:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19A6C3BE79; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B4318C.1080208@unguitar.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:58:52 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: wanted: suggestion for loop post processor References: <49B4137F.4070400@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49B4137F.4070400@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Andy, TC Electronic Fireworx ! it has a really great interface, excellent filters and many, many ways to sync effects such as delays, trems and so on. I think it deserves a chance. good luck. luca andy butler ha scritto: > wanted: suggestion for loop post processor > > Currently I'm looking at the Lexicon MPX1 for the following reasons. > > 1) While it's a stereo device, it can be used to pan both inputs > seperately, and to apply > stereo fx to either (or both) > 2) It has filters and tremolo and stuff which are midi-syncable > 3) Maybe it's time to start using reverb. > 4) Rack mount, 1U > 5) Can hard pan delays L<>R > 6) Can just about make a 4s loop of some sort with delays. > 7) XLR Outs > 8) Weight not *too* bad at 3Kg > 9) Tweakable in most directions (LFO's, Envelopes, etc) > 10) Lexicon > > Always previously I used 2 edps as a stereo pair (or left them hard > panned if I de-synced them). > Now , as I think I can use the Gordius LG footcontroller to command > either both, or just > one edp I'm looking into some way of center panning an re-stereoing them. > > Well, any suggestions as to alternative to MPX-1, however bizarre and > unsuitable greatfully accepted. > > Any comments pr/com MPX1 would also help. > Particularly "what happens when you change patch", is there a big gap? > > > Or general rambling about post fx for loops if that's more fun. > > andy butler > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.11.9/1989 - Release Date: 07/03/2009 18.43 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 21:21:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD79D3BE7C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LNNpCt8S9emVwygewS/8DeqZSL6rP42sf9yrzqhCQfc=; b=l8SYqcEpmjWftq2IDADLxRfy3OLMbVXjY8yh+qkVxaDjgUg0wZSvqmPWqu2+Iv7W5a HJJjf9yjuGYvSaySxs/D81l/8quDxRQd5ij1cEuV3IIVLjo0i2h75wXO2dmKxqEW/hBB AvAyDUvgZ/OSE+p0unok1nqQ/c52mhP7uqZ68= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=bY97sc3OC0HDroGqPhVQFuifjTMXxNpJ8uPn6y+z/XB33YB4JoqxFgi2dFvoDuDSQu dw0Yzqd0AwKO0gQcX8Xk5Pt2SNoiy6x//PWa0P7iM/ZuVpT9BieZ/J9lxPt37Fv59VKQ EbH/uvTNwpsSIzti4WbqEw7ZsAqurzApiAqVI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:21:38 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903081421r49850950od55f08831d56a20b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Rick said: > Also, for Americans, the price of petrol in Europe and the UK is staggering compared to what we are used to in terms of subsidized gasoline prices in the US all of our lives. Really, Rick, is there (and has there been all the time) a subsidy on (car) gasoline prices in the U.S. for all your respective lives? Meaning that the vendor actually gets a guaranteed price on gas which will be achieved by using taxpayer's money if the market doesn't reflect that guarantee? I'm asking because here in Germany (which is part of Europe, and hence part of your counterexample), the tax portion on gas (including all those crazy taxes the invented from time to time) is above 60%, which may appear odd, destructive and all in all rather true to Stalinistic ideals which, in fact, it is. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 21:50:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C9903BE79; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YkYOOtCbVPVm4JqLKe3yJRYTxIDsOxIAPVGl2FkDteM=; b=fSFylqnWL8H7fYt7EPKMvCpWf/GLflZFIQsfIZ7JuqGzfyYqW3CHxqhp1euNRuSVVI xH4qwNkW/fKSNsFLitzdacWn3rCkb7ra4OWn8WgXIGPGh7UQYj0hwWR38kXmf0k+tsRH XcqqAVnmqq6H7HK3yRUizUA0qPua0/achVOss= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Oq+FvKvdcu94ZHUlOZxOlEUwAVRo4AuB2EAPwiF7wKoAyWPNJBoCgnDmcxkQCqXIR3 MPIZApINXINusN7YkMynGRsmqg5dUjTJn6pG/UKkANnf3tKieepMhtHsYaMOkIDbVbdm 2MiFiC5Ts6Zsmy82H/OIHobjtc72HL6hjKq/c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B4318C.1080208@unguitar.com> References: <49B4137F.4070400@tiscali.co.uk> <49B4318C.1080208@unguitar.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:50:27 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903081450l57ea4030pd326815ab54a1ac0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wanted: suggestion for loop post processor From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:50:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Luca Formentini wrote: > Andy, > TC Electronic Fireworx ! I agree with Luca. For a couple of years I used a Fireworx as a tempo synced pre looper processor. Really useful in a hardware based rig! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:00:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DBD63BE84; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-06.arcor-online.net B1CA739A9C9 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236549630; bh=XrvywcKPQAuW6Bueiwi6yjj7m2Y/cwdDxlKrqM/f9RU=; h=Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date; b=BkAV +B0MkAStJAt7PU7SeIp4Ns7YJJMIyhSR2+mUDkk+CROmDmFOz+K8HCsXBltdCRujJZO vnqQOfjoIxXkvUbpm1NUOgtwIaRoKg7hJajSAMB+4yIGbW1Iks7JYfIBQk+LYJvlKjt CumNPbTeYuiK1+hfvgkvcL7p16qd/KjE4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-544391835 From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: Re: The Case Against True Bypass Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:00:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9080/Fri Mar 6 20:13:38 2009 on mail-in-06.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:00:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-544391835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed well observed :-) Mind you, I'd enjoy the performance possibilities of running up and down my 20ft pedal board, and rushing out to the parking lot to adjust the amp. andy --Apple-Mail-5-544391835 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII well observed = :-)

Mind you, I'd enjoy the performance possibilities of = running
up and down my 20ft pedal board,
and= rushing out to the parking lot to adjust the amp.

andy

= --Apple-Mail-5-544391835-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:03:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C49F73BE79; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:03:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=w27kFAkjUbEncrqLsp415njy9tc+ZcycDYzAb7iYXPk=; b=U8HHk8KocWPSkvTiESr19vF/RpOCoN/Gcdw3wN/yr3ITnibnhqbxmsRBEqdmmmd6uP /n1gPyKVASUHqUHNfwBzCky/qH4dCR3FgbG45QFuHRc4CBtKTO75Hy5danhq6OzbqQ70 1opWea5ica1xjwQMI0YvIoQaJeaFeh53Bv9Z0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XLaPNizVg7K/sjq+0yjwaQXMbktH2CQ25ayIX68voRw2kXuK2xMpxZC2K9mjxeB4V4 D2Q1lYTgDIZUYNlfXuljM4Lkyd4ElUNLuX1KRzWk8RHY2kN0jSSH/ePdkVo5BGZGPdfE kPs2BmKc2rZO0bfx11nq3gn2RJtmkvJyKEEMQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903081315n570a8208x3caa77614556387d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903081315n570a8208x3caa77614556387d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:03:50 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903081503q42e6621cq9940018ccf11142a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:03:50 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:15 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I dont think my effects are ACTUALLY phono level.. as in turntable > level..(god you are right about the peater having a dedicated socket- blimey > they chucked alot of useless stuff onto that machine...) As a desperate act of making it non useless I was actually planning to borrow an analog record player, connect it to my Repeater through that input socket and then connect a computer digitally and finally digitize all my vinyl records so I can listen to them. This beautiful projects died because of lack of time. I ended up downloading my old vinyl record's music from the internet. > How do I know its at 0 db? Surely the numbers on the knob are purely > arbitary (this one goes to eleven?)... Key word is CALIBRATION. First thing to do on any audio system you start working on is to calibrate at least one part of it to give a correct nominal level readout for an analog signal. Maybe you already have appropriate tools for that in your computer/soundcard? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:09:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 294A03BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=16ha1jNXq2loMU3xjmX3SUuScuhB2buy/PKZQ3OEto4=; b=g7OBTe3RK3mfkWpvWLC1kkVyPIfBWJKaNGErDLxHKOrF1Xs4k5WgR1deqboHrBRVNX QPQM7JltqnB7L52ofdzpihSgClPUdipt+u9Ll/1MsudS0OVjOzYeffzhC2lVDcf3wzIj 6etQgO2Eu5/lbInM1ZY2ynS8n5FR9WN+kbX0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iLdRlU6xlz15uSnDeYFbeLLyvJwM5i/utm5d146P5/Vn+u0TUuibjSEx8xmKkCYeCc HpOHB/1G7PFrgbrDk3XQ8tXYNg/2wFblVm/uY7YLZnt7H5XHOtNJzcwGg0MLGK2+Eq2I nUOSXxxv0ZJfPCUfRCPbFFlCxxBNkoLWYa0jA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B3F897.208@cruzio.com> References: <49B3F897.208@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:09:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903081509i5dc89b5bgdadb61e4b45016af@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: The Case Against True Bypass From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:09:53 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I found this on line while researching all the threads > about Input/Output gain and thought it would effect everyone: > It is from Pete Cornish's really great website on pedalboard design. Glad you liked it! I posted the URL too in the "Gain Structure" thread but it fell out in Rick's post: You find it at http://www.petecornish.co.uk/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:27:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D6DD3BE7E; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7f12cf3c-4a76-426f-ae78-f28707d2174f_" X-Originating-IP: [63.249.108.250] From: samba - To: Subject: Unity Gain Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:27:01 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090308133137.1E1513BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090308133137.1E1513BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 22:27:01.0892 (UTC) FILETIME=[0084C440:01C9A03D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:27:03 +0000 (UTC) --_7f12cf3c-4a76-426f-ae78-f28707d2174f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a discussion of Unity Gain and impedence --_7f12cf3c-4a76-426f-ae78-f28707d2174f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3BHere's a discussion of Unity Gain and impedence
= --_7f12cf3c-4a76-426f-ae78-f28707d2174f_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:27:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E0BD3BE8C; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8ad37f45-b913-4ded-b590-750538919a72_" X-Originating-IP: [63.249.108.250] From: samba - To: Subject: RE: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #231 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:27:10 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090308133137.1E1513BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090308133137.1E1513BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 22:27:10.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[058C9BC0:01C9A03D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:27:11 +0000 (UTC) --_8ad37f45-b913-4ded-b590-750538919a72_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a discussion of Unity Gain and impedence http://www.rane.com/note1= 24.html --_8ad37f45-b913-4ded-b590-750538919a72_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3BHere's a discussion of Unity Gain and impedence =3B http://www.= rane.com/note124.html
= --_8ad37f45-b913-4ded-b590-750538919a72_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:27:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 932103BE86; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 427 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:27:40 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=U7FnkOkBmDbDTasyMF4HH9+VyPM1S9KwY8SaqyWEXeQ=; b=NNK477h1y3PZ25DbR/3hp10QT692Pq3h8if+e8/448BvNloFLuXWyHrjd+Y3t4EAtQ nhn87HYY6xgJUHLPNFDyLUD2eFIsqvzV5fEt6hQnUkYP75pJh/S+1XGpydk5+0mmCa5t xQ/ldsIsvB+jmxpfwkP3rmoLB9srHgrZAxHnQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=mxR6CMcTw9eUrlY5KJ1Ys5NH9euOVF9S2/vfX7kVHzltdBnMvETIv3LKwHaDqs7JqO 0rqC8+KYzmaeBiFBaVEbX2vL5AIJmX1edDpwZXrFlp/7NbosbnmIUIMpH3TU7KnKvpUX wpDOyLLCZNUk2zgxJlx4TVCLr4qYFJeJ4YrQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <323489.39834.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <323489.39834.qm@web110203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:20:33 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903081520j5f7b7dbfxddc8d642121ecb5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: (sorta) Laptop Suggestions From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <24lhVB.A.NoB.cZEtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:27:40 +0000 (UTC) My advice would be to pay attention to the chipset of the firewire and/or usb controller, depending on what sort of audio interface you are using. Go to the forums for whatever audio interface you intend to use, and check to see what laptops people are praising or complaining about. Generally speaking, the processor speed and RAM are good indicators of performance, but a bad audio driver will screw everything up. The TI chipset seems to be the gold standard for both USB and Firewire. I returned several dell laptops, but I'm very happy with the performance of my Acer Extensa 5620-6030 Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 2.2Ghz, 3Gb RAM. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Hi: > > I've been thinking about replacing my desktop with a new PC to get more > memory, a faster CPU, etc. I was leaning towards a desktop as I have at > least one PCI card I'd like to continue to use. However, with the continual > reduction in price of laptops, I've been thinking more of this direction > just for space considerations as well as the portability. > > I'm going to stay with the Windows platforms and have been toying with a > very reasonable priced Gateway w/2GB memory and an Intel dual core CPU for > $650. Heck, I think I have only 1/2 GB memory on my desktop and I've been > able to run Reason, Cubase & ACID w no problems (plus others). Even the > config mentioned above would be a major improvement for me. > > What kinds of Windows-based laptops are folks on this board using? Any words > of wisdom on what to look out for? > > Also, I've been leaning towards an Intel chip rather than AMD. Any comments > on that opinion? > > Regards, Paul > > > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:30:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32BAA3BE90; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sVP/t1cnQnldb5nhiqkfi5UHb2fKyfoJb/PT2cOVSCU=; b=RNtg/Qwq598uyf/B/15Du1Zw3gGuDBvk/nyhhQTtOpVP0MBvMPO7JXfKtTlY/HPiii swSBQw4vlU0sUv1ovUeijQl2J5IRAdJk45j8E2l+tJZMQskD2KW38k0HG25OZdFDCGFd U8UKDKWFqLNY8aDPZnZEaJjHw4K0QPglVCCIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oLyuFxd6LXdkpOG8vK53p/LyR+r/GwBG8Qu6xqeGoFbrP7xYj+AJmjqAuBgcvbghSc nPMuCzTlXLitBZEMNSs4HpxcOm6v6gN2X9GgH4W7QhltNwlgzzoVOsjRd0Q2wqNVTVO7 MZN+j83mVkU2EkO0gSF/I2t53ZU6MUOUxiXEE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:30:35 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903081530yc28eafcr162e2c60e493dbdb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: wanted: suggestion for loop post processor From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Andy, you do not specify which of the items 1-10 you mention are actually hard requirements or if there are any other soft requirements, but... Some people have suggested the FireworX: while the FireworX offers a lot of great options (great flexibility in routing structure, including the option to insert an external device into the signal chain via the s/pdifs, lots of modulation options, including pitch detection and a pattern sequencer, great digital lo-fi effects), I've always found that it lacks processing power seriously, given its richness in features. You typically max out at 3 to 4 processing blocks (and some of them are only available once, e.g. only one filter at a time), so this may limit you a lot if you want to process two mono inputs separately. The fact that it only has XLR connectors is not a showstopper but somehow impractical. Btw, maximum delay time if I remember correctly is something like 2.9 seconds (mono). Summary: it's by far not as cool as it looks, because of a lack of processing power. However it has a lot of flexibility which only a tiny few (read: Eventide H8000 etc.) effects processors have to offer. And the lo-fi/digital dirt effects are a welcome addition. Now something for the "bizarre and unsuitable" reign: enter the Clavia Nord Modular G2 Engine. 1HU in size, this device (which is basically an extremely flexible virtual modular synth) doesn't have any front-panel knobs or displays of any kind - so some kind of solution for patch change is needed - and for effects editing, you actually need a computer. Why do I recommend it anyway? Lots of processing options! Tons of flexibility! And you even get a free synthesizer! I have been using the Nord MicroModular (the previous model's tiny version in a small tabletop case) a lot - however that old one only had minimum delay capability. A great thing! Highly recommended! Claude Voit used to use one to pattern-sequence his EDPs. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:40:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 344CA3BE8B; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:40:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c842f9f2-904c-4552-82c3-db12e320418d_" X-Originating-IP: [63.249.108.250] From: samba - To: Subject: AGAINST BYPASS Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:40:34 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20090308173155.874AD3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20090308173155.874AD3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2009 22:40:35.0545 (UTC) FILETIME=[E57E5C90:01C9A03E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:40:36 +0000 (UTC) --_c842f9f2-904c-4552-82c3-db12e320418d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One good solution to the situation Cornish describes is a buffer amp. Ga= rcia had a line out from pickups to his pedals that came back to his guita= r=2Cand then went to the controls=2Cthen out to the amp. --_c842f9f2-904c-4552-82c3-db12e320418d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3B =3B One good solution to the situation Cornish describes is a = buffer amp. Garcia had a line out =3B from pickups to his pedals that c= ame back to his guitar=2Cand then went to the controls=2Cthen out to the am= p.
= --_c842f9f2-904c-4552-82c3-db12e320418d_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:53:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43C1F3BE80; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ao5D6LmopQ/+v/0zBPOKxIVE79WitEwbvHKIKjXH5tU=; b=ceZRdnXJNfZEOrvAUW1n7IFWNZmnClmzrtgqgS1CgVotmWMvwUdxg/RWRBU8Se+JtC Ex9Eh79zJEdXDrCfVzdFM30V08WoVuzD9E9TCYf7mYh85RO4g8hLOmtA8UFJ6Jy8htpw 3VRX5xaJe/NsQ4+BjJ7GxPHiXIdfAh1c1gGM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Co5BKWPBjdpGzRqQtvoNK0UMKfy+CYKcddsR+4VFEMxcOeFC1C3dyVszEMoPHkx1pp LXMsWKbEeuRIeib4ajzVGaFowj6xSYC8lvokK8lW1LoaCs9JTKovfILCKjvqvTCM44pu 3oqsDND5iak4X2PJGsVfeWdCMKRkt4uJ4mwDI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903081503q42e6621cq9940018ccf11142a@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903081315n570a8208x3caa77614556387d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903081503q42e6621cq9940018ccf11142a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:53:52 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 963bae6b65351cb9 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903081553j54886d95s942c471f04c2d3d2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a2b559eeec0464a364e3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:53:54 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a2b559eeec0464a364e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Maybe you already > have appropriate tools for that in your computer/soundcard? > Er... no.. dont think so... what tools am I looking for? a 0db tone? sure i can make one but How do i know its 0 db once its out of the computer... ? really I need a tone generator.. I dont think anyone has one of them... Thanks Andy for GAIN STRUCTURE 101, I have to admit I was hoping that you got in on this one...Im sure we all learnt something there... I think you have all the answers I need to start to track down the culprits in my new rig... just gimme some time please??? My wife's father passed away last week, so Ive been driving around alot of sad people all weekend, while dreaming of my shiny new edp lying relatively unused inmy studio!!! m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --001636c5a2b559eeec0464a364e3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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have appropriate tools for that in your computer/soundcard?

Er... no.. dont think so... wha= t tools am I looking for? a 0db tone? sure i can make one but How do i know= its 0 db once its out of the computer... ? really I need a tone generator.= . I dont think anyone has one of them...

Thanks Andy for GAIN STRUCTURE 101, I have to admit I was hoping that y= ou got in on this one...Im sure we all learnt something there...
I think= you have all the answers I need to start to track down the culprits in my = new rig... just gimme some time please??? My wife's father passed away = last week, so Ive been driving around alot of sad people all weekend, while= dreaming of my shiny new edp lying relatively unused inmy studio!!!



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--001636c5a2b559eeec0464a364e3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 8 22:57:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D8433BE88; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=4Y3uBPsfqBR1m+SLjJ3kJtW9jvcABA9tq00FzvtYTpI=; b=OE9UaLM6KUIZmslNxAtaifTGbvVz4GJUuYHimUgRhxXI5OrWlrcQ1rFp95bYY17SXw HJu0TAeDNc1X6JqiOhTZm/u+jluuTlpod/9lR/5mqeq7oR1q9nobHsP7El01SbqUXNXt EWo3MPlf2/Z69sMscaGKMonA33q8xtPgltdP0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nWs0I/CCRO9gcXEX7XK3GohMCiu16yZR28WY29qL+HNqbgdNICmRHecRNzWrVpMp0Y iuZFpJF9zzow8/92mOWhOI3B5/7TtsD/NCz3vpgD5FViUghKRU2QEldGCIMJTQZjoT3G +3VDBJ8BOgiCWVWr4WtrNpDWPOTEmHd5mmcRw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <08DD0F3A-E30C-4D40-AB2C-EE977270CF5E@arcor.de> References: <08DD0F3A-E30C-4D40-AB2C-EE977270CF5E@arcor.de> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:57:32 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903081557i1ef7076dh25e2a41f12859c96@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 22:57:33 +0000 (UTC) Wow, lots of great advices from Rick, Daryl and Andreas. Thank you for posting! One thing I do is to wear trousers with huge pockets on the legs. My rather heavy soundcard fits well into one such pocket. All things you pack into your pockets will not tax your weight in luggage and by picking the heaviest stuff for pockets you save loads of money from over weight fees. I've even been flying with lots of midi and audio cabled used as "belt" for my trousers, another way to save money. The cabin baggage is usually allowed at maximum eight or ten kilo weight. But since you are obliged to take out the laptop anyway at the check-in it won't be on the scales with the rest of the stuff - so you may safely plan your exact cabin bag weight MINUS laptop weight. I use few clothes but bring detergent - packed into the check-in bag so it won't be mistaken for drugs, as if taken in the cabin bag. Look tidy, behave nicely and make sure your bags do not look different in any way. When I was young and innocent (y2k6 loopest) I brought my tenor sax from 1929 in a hardcase that had air brushed with golden paint. Not good. It never showed up at the luggage trial when checking out at San Fran AP. Totally gone. A rep helped me call the office and found out it had been "tagged as suspicious luggage and transported to a sealed off area to be terminated if not claimed withing thirty minutes". I found my instrument and claimed five minutes pre termination - phiew... life on the road.... If traveling with Ryanair, save money by bringing a pee bottle: http://www.aeromedix.com/aeromedix_articles/traveljohn/index.html Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 02:27:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6F273BE79; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7WM38LZFUc+t+04J7pxwWcTJvSf3OhwXkAVQH2vGkhM=; b=g+bpQWGiNU6mE3NftaxoaDLmBD7JkPaQQ6WVibSh55XrOgE2CqljBC9tpcXbHBuBx6 91mhPHxbnstn3DLBEjnLpDU2dbUc4WWPkY47/+YI6bZVahDOtoEu3BJ9b5FrIfiyH5Nl new2ydfXhsNVPvvG1B0izjrKjCgb2jtBLerA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o0qwjgYT6n7Cp88MlCltsDRavXnjm8djT9rLnhxuYDsx2ewOCDaUsDMz7ETJKXexbo uljJsoyrFjk9WwlPCI7WXQwnufXwtrhJccZEGkeNj1O9qTKB6yTEgH/JVhR/UMupkB87 v+XOA4r9q+FYAdV1IW3QEzKdPMKoorW+j//5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B407F2.7050907@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49B40105.8060708@cruzio.com> <49B407F2.7050907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:27:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:27:28 +0000 (UTC) 2009/3/8 andy butler : > I thought we were all going round Europe together on the Loop Bus no joke here! ... this would be the cheapest if well organized and all foreign loopers use it and shared fees. but we would need more venues on different countries ... lugagge? no problem . count me in! ra=FCl. --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 02:32:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56CAC3BE81; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B47FC5.9070504@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:32:37 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , Andy Owens Subject: Best Light Weight Mixer for Loop Touring Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens, in his really excellent article on travelling in the GAIN STRUCTURE thread (wow, I've been doing this for a long time and I learned several things from you) said, "...............Rance Cm 86 mixer (THE BEST LOOPING MIXER ask me why..)........................." Why? I, myself endorse and tour with a DTar SOULSTICE, Mix Blending System http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml I like this a lot It has two channels (line and XLR inputs per channel) with volume and three bands of powerful eq on each channel. Phantom power for mics on both channels. Channel Inserts (which I used for my footpedals) on each channel (in the back) Master Effects Send (to my looper) with a separate effects mix on the front of the unit A tuner out (that can be used to go to my wireless earphone system (maybe the best single purchase I"ve made for live performance, espeically given that I use live microphones.) with a mute switch if you want to use it as a tuner output. Then it has Mono line out or Balanced XLR out and two post eq sends on the back of the unit * 8.5" wide x 6.5" deep x 2.7" high * Weight 2.9 lbs. It is a half rack space but is two rack spaces high. My only critiques are that it is too well built (meaning it's heavier than I wish it was, but this means it will really last a long time) and, in a perfect world, I wish that it was only one rack space in width and height and had 2 auxiliary sends. Pretty small critique considering that it was designed for acoustic musicians to accurately blend the signals from two different pickup systems wiht great flexibility and not for a found sound/multi instrumentalist like myself. It's pretty great. What else do you guys like? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 02:53:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D36A03BE73; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z3DH+sMayeVwcTvArjia5LMm+MS/rfayUiQzFyoHyXw=; b=rx4fiIiutWW0albKQgYr5Xti6rjzOTYEGimhgkRoGUckD4+sDOyV/9RDWlwe9QjONe CXC5Q2m8S5qYsnHpBSrDXKl7O5LptzZGAbG2Kw608U34ZKFcTsL6sGjzWxe5zRs1IyZp QkemrWoWTiaGzGs35gT5JCXUgnQDRwLSxeprw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=k/58DRkPXQmgTNmHUZW2wgDF1qSwZ5U6hoiyq8Epw4W/XbbmbFT9y8fPTrCWtcbUkR d7MnwsoHowDHhTZgJ/gedZlNLxqq9LSK0pjcgz2rAYUVHWL9MPrhiEI+oVvsWRs331bA TihXSPakOD+JBWgnVJYkfVPTEiuowKrcqVzmM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B47FC5.9070504@cruzio.com> References: <49B47FC5.9070504@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:53:54 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Best Light Weight Mixer for Loop Touring From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9bdc44ce30464a6be76 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 02:53:57 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9bdc44ce30464a6be76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit *BEHRINGER XENYX 1002 FX* Behringer Xenyx 1002 FX, 10-channel mixer - 2 mic inputs with 48V phantom power, 24-bit FX processor, 3-band EQ, 1 aux send (post), peak LED, 4 stereo line inputs with 1 aux, 2-track in/out, master fader, external power supply. Dimensions: 47-37 x 189 x 220mm. Weight: 1.05kg, *EUR* 2009/3/9 Rick Walker : > Andy Owens, in his really excellent article on > travelling in the GAIN STRUCTURE thread (wow, I've been doing this for a > long time > and I learned several things from you) > said, > > "...............Rance Cm 86 mixer (THE BEST LOOPING MIXER ask me > why..)........................." > > > Why? > > > I, myself endorse and tour with a DTar SOULSTICE, Mix Blending System > http://www.d-tar.com/solstice.shtml > > I like this a lot > > It has two channels (line and XLR inputs per channel) with volume and three > bands of powerful eq on each channel. > Phantom power for mics on both channels. > Channel Inserts (which I used for my footpedals) on each channel (in the > back) > Master Effects Send (to my looper) with a separate effects mix on the front > of the unit > A tuner out (that can be used to go to my wireless earphone system (maybe > the best single purchase I"ve made > for live performance, espeically given that I use live microphones.) > with a mute switch if you want to use it as a tuner output. > > Then it has Mono line out or Balanced XLR out and two post eq sends on the > back of the unit > > * 8.5" wide x 6.5" deep x 2.7" high > * Weight 2.9 lbs. > > > It is a half rack space but is two rack spaces high. > My only critiques are that it is too well built (meaning it's heavier than I > wish it was, but this means it will really > last a long time) and, in a perfect world, I wish that it was only one rack > space in width and height and > had 2 auxiliary sends. Pretty small critique considering that it was > designed for acoustic musicians > to accurately blend the signals from two different pickup systems wiht great > flexibility and > not for a found sound/multi instrumentalist like myself. It's pretty > great. > > What else do you guys like? > > > -- Raul Bonell at blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com --001636c5a9bdc44ce30464a6be76 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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2009/3/9 Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>:
> Andy Owens, in his really excellent article on
> travelling in t= he GAIN STRUCTURE thread (wow, I've been doing this for a
> long = time
> and I learned several things from you)
> said,
> > "...............Rance Cm 86 mixer (THE BEST LOOPING MIXER ask me<= br>> why..)........................."
>
>
> Why?<= br>>
>
> I, myself endorse and tour with a DTar SOULSTICE, M= ix Blending System
> http://www.d-tar.com/s= olstice.shtml
>
> I like this a lot
>
> It has = two channels (line and XLR inputs per channel) with volume and three
>= ; bands of powerful eq on each channel.
> Phantom power for mics on both channels.
> Channel Inserts (whic= h I used for my footpedals) on each channel (in the
> back)
> M= aster Effects Send (to my looper) with a separate effects mix on the front<= br> > of the unit
> A tuner out (that can be used to go to my wireless= earphone system (maybe
> the best single purchase I"ve made
= > for live performance, espeically given that I use live microphones.) > with a mute switch if you want to use it as a tuner output.
>> Then it has Mono line out or Balanced XLR out and two post eq sends o= n the
> back of the unit
>
> =A0 * 8.5" wide x 6.5&q= uot; deep x 2.7" high
> =A0 * Weight 2.9 lbs.
>
>
> It is a half rack space = but is two rack spaces high. =A0
> My only critiques are that it is t= oo well built (meaning it's heavier than I
> wish it was, but thi= s means it will really
> last a long time) and, in a perfect world, =A0I wish that it was only = one rack
> space in width and height and
> had 2 auxiliary send= s. =A0 =A0 =A0 Pretty small critique considering that it was
> design= ed for acoustic musicians
> to accurately blend the signals from two different pickup systems wiht= great
> flexibility and
> not for a found sound/multi instrume= ntalist like myself. =A0 =A0It's pretty
> great.
>
> = What else do you guys like?
>
>
>



--
Raul Bonell at blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com
C= hain Tape Collective: http://www.c= t-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http= ://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com

--001636c5a9bdc44ce30464a6be76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 03:42:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 129523BE78; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B4902D.2020206@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 21:42:37 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring References: <08DD0F3A-E30C-4D40-AB2C-EE977270CF5E@arcor.de> <66f9cc1e0903081557i1ef7076dh25e2a41f12859c96@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903081557i1ef7076dh25e2a41f12859c96@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <21npoB.A.nrC.2AJtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:42:46 +0000 (UTC) I'm getting a pair of cargo pants tomorrow - sounds like the flying looper's trouser of choice! I love the thought of belting those pants with wrapped cables, but isn't that a big pain to take off for the x-ray machines? And have I just been unaware of scales at check-in for carry-on stuff? Is that happening in Europe but not the States as yet? I've definitely had more than 10 kg before. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > One thing I do is to wear trousers with huge pockets on the legs. My > rather heavy soundcard fits well into one such pocket. All things you > pack into your pockets will not tax your weight in luggage and by > picking the heaviest stuff for pockets you save loads of money from > over weight fees. I've even been flying with lots of midi and audio > cabled used as "belt" for my trousers, another way to save money. > > The cabin baggage is usually allowed at maximum eight or ten kilo > weight. But since you are obliged to take out the laptop anyway at the > check-in it won't be on the scales with the rest of the stuff - so you > may safely plan your exact cabin bag weight MINUS laptop weight. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 04:50:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA20E3BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 04:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=TifOhj6xvlcFtSarERQ7ASbNDBtZuVwwMe+NFnomHCDe38Jo7Si+eXK9pBzYnXyvcb3vhsn5RLarztefq0JDillIriQvhf/nmsXkyVKG03udXOXebv5Z9ZDcoTV1sG0Z; Message-ID: <20090308235040.0xqdq7wgj4o0sc8c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:50:40 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: LoopersDelight Subject: Three new looped works from Kevin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 04:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi! I've been busy the last few weeks. I have wanted to do some looping =20 with my Aries Modular and I went through and re-calibrated the =20 oscillators and did a little other tweaking. I also wanted to use my =20 Looperlative LP1. Specifically, I wanted to work out the problem of moving from one =20 section to another and explore possibilities with the LP1's Midi Clock =20 output (since my synth's MIDI-to-CV converter has a DIN SYNC mode). =20 One technique I use to build some loops is to start with by-in-large =20 rhythmically incomprehensible bloops and bleeps and then attempt to =20 turn it into something. I posted two tracks from these efforts =20 entitled, "My Dance Card" and "My Radar Detector". In addition, I wanted to do a non-rhythmic ("ambient") looped work =20 with the LP1 and the Aries, and it is entitled "February Snowflakes". I added these to my Aries synthesizer page and you can download the =20 mp3s from there: http://kevinkissinger.com/ariesinfo.shtml I enjoyed improvising these tracks and hope you enjoy listening to =20 them. They are a bit of a departure from work I've done in the past. Sincerely, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 05:00:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8507E3BE75; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 05:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3610 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:00:21 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:50:57 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T w Dennis Shafer @Longy School of Music, 03.13.09 Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 05:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing video improvisations at the=20 Longy School of Music in Cambridge this coming=20 =46riday. Dennis is a fine, multifaceted young=20 saxophonist and composer -- this promises to be a=20 fun and enlightening evening, DENNIS SHAFER AND FRIENDS SAY, "YES WE CAN!" : FIVE WORLD PREMIERES =46eaturing The VOX 4 String Quartet, Shafer=20 Saxophone Quartet, Sounds in Bloom, Dr. T, and=20 more =46RIDAY, MARCH 13TH AT 7:30PM-FREE ADMISSION JEWITT HALL, FIRST CHURCH IN CAMBRIDGE 11 Garden Street, Cambridge, HARVARD SQUARE T-STOP Dennis Shafer proudly presents composers Claudio=20 Gabriele (Rome, Italy), Paul Klein (Yale=20 University), David Krebs (Lawrence, Kansas),=20 Julie Case (Vermont), and Anthony Solitro=20 (Worcester) in a concert featuring some of the=20 most original and innovative performing and=20 visual artists of our time. This non-stop fringe performance brings together=20 the most wonderful musical and artistic=20 experiences Dennis Shafer has had in Boston since=20 arriving from Paris in 2007. Cross-disciplinary=20 experiences from poetry to video art, music=20 inspired by sculpture and then turned to poetry,=20 and work with composers exploring new performance=20 techniques and sounds are Dennis Shafer and=20 =46riends hope to share with you! Collaborators: www.myspace.com/brexmusic David Krebs electronic music www.myspace.com/vox4stringquartet VOX4 String Quartet www.myspace.com/claudiogabriele Claudio Gabriele, composer www.julietcase.com Juliet Case, Composer www.myspace.com/tonysolitro Anthony Solitro, composer www.myspace.com/dnorma Diana Norma Szokolyai,=20 Sounds in Bloom, performance artist www.foryourhead.com Emile "Dr. T" Tobenfeld, Spontaneous Video Art PERFORMERS AND BIOS Dennis Shafer, Saxophonist In 2008, Dennis Shafer was presented a Legacy=20 Award by Meryl Streep from the Creativity=20 =46oundation. A native of Lawrence, Kansas, he=20 recently lived in Paris, France where he studied=20 with contemporary saxophonist Jean-Michel Goury.=20 In Paris, Dennis worked with several great=20 composers and saxophonists, including Francois=20 Rosse, Etienne Rolin, Yosh'ko Seffer, Francois=20 Coutinaud, and Rico Gubler. He also premiered=20 works by Robert Lemay, Jacques Hetu, Yosh'ko=20 Seffer, and toured with various ensembles across=20 =46rance, as well as Austria and Hungary. Dennis=20 Shafer is the founder and co-founder of several=20 groups, including Le Tapis Volant, Sounds in=20 Bloom, the Skyline Quintet, the Back Bay=20 Saxophone Quartet and the Opus Jazz Duo. He=20 returned to Boston in 2007 where he has premiered=20 works by Robert Morris, Michael Paull, and Larry=20 Bell for an Artist Diploma at Longy School of=20 Music, studying with Kenneth Radnofsky. He=20 performs regularly in Boston and also has=20 engagements in France, Thailand, and Austrailia. Diana Norma Szokolyai, Performance Artist, Writer Diana Norma Szokolyai is a Hungarian and American=20 author, interdisciplinary artist, and educator.=20 Her book of poetry and photography, Roses in the=20 Snow (Imaginary Cottage Press), was runner-up for=20 best poetry book in the 2008 national DIY Book=20 =46estival. It may be previewed and purchased at=20 http://www.lulu.com/content/2531439. Her poetry,=20 articles, and visual art have been published in=20 Polarity, Up the Staircase, The Dudley Review,=20 Human Rights Institute: Human Rights News, and=20 other publications. She is recipient of a Human=20 Rights Art Award from the University of=20 Connecticut's Human Rights Institute and=20 scholarships from the University of Connecticut=20 and Harvard for graduate study in French studies=20 and Arts in Education respectively. She co-directs the Cambridge Writer's Workshop=20 and is co-founder of Sounds in Bloom=20 (www.myspace.com/dnorma), an internationally=20 performing poetry-music-movement-art=20 collaborative that performs in theaters,=20 bookstores, concert halls, art galleries,=20 educational institutions, and secret places. Together with saxophonist/composer Dennis Shafer=20 (co-founder), they collaborate with artists=20 across the U.S. and Europe, and give workshops to=20 children and adults. With Sounds in Bloom, she=20 has performed at Cit=E9 Internationale des Arts=20 (Paris), Zeitgeist Outpost Art Gallery=20 (Cambridge), Mobius Center for Experimental Art=20 (Boston), Tenri Cultural Institute (New York),=20 The Boston Conservatory, Longy School of Music=20 (Cambridge), and in other venues including spoken=20 word open-mics and artistic "salons" in=20 Paris,Vienna, and Budapest. Composers that have=20 either written music for her texts or=20 commissioned poems for their music include David=20 Krebs (U.S.), Jason Haye (UK), Peter James (UK),=20 Claudio Gabriele (Italy), and Juliet Case (U.S.) Jennifer Bill, Saxophone Saxophonist, Dr. Jennifer Bill performs solo and=20 chamber music with a variety of groups around=20 southern New England, including the Back Bay=20 Saxophone Quartet (www.backbayquartet.com). She=20 has performed contemporary chamber music with a=20 variety of artists including vocalists,=20 clarinetists, cellists, flutists, taped media,=20 percussionists and dancers. In December of 2005,=20 Dr. Bill was a guest soloist with the Boston=20 University Wind Ensemble, performing John=20 Harbison's San Antonio. In the spring of 2006 she=20 was a guest conductor with the Providence College=20 concert band. She has premiered numerous pieces=20 for saxophone including Reflection by Michael=20 Kregler in 2007, The Miraculous Tale for=20 saxophone and derabucca by Halim El-Dabh as part=20 of World-Wide Concurrent Premieres in 2007, and=20 works by Howard Frazin and Shih-Hui Chen as part=20 of Worldwide Concurrent Premieres in 2005. She=20 has participated in national and world=20 conferences including the World Saxophone=20 Congress in 2003, the North American Saxophone=20 Alliance national conference in 2000 and the=20 North American Saxophone Alliance regional=20 conference in 2005. Dr. Bill is currently a Lecturer in Saxophone at=20 Boston University, a Special Lecturer in Music at=20 Providence College (theory, ear training,=20 saxophone, and chamber music), and a Faculty=20 member at The Boston Conservatory (liaison=20 between Boston Conservatory and the Boston Arts=20 Academy). She is also the Saxophone Instructor,=20 Wind Ensemble Coordinator, and Saxophone Workshop=20 assistant for the Boston University Tanglewood=20 Institute. Dr. Bill also serves on the=20 International Advisory Board for World-Wide=20 Concurrent Premiers and Commissioning Funds, Inc. Dr. Bill received her education from Providence=20 College (BA), The Boston Conservatory (MM) and=20 Boston University (MusAD). Her teachers have=20 included Kenneth Radnofsky, Christopher Kelton=20 and Carrie Koffman. Along with her musical passions Dr. Bill is also=20 an athlete and a coach. She captained her=20 Division I ice hockey team during her=20 undergraduate time at Providence College and was=20 an assistant coach for Northeastern University's=20 women's ice hockey team from 2001 to 2004. She=20 also coached ice hockey camps and clinics for=20 young players from 1997-2006. Jon Amon, Saxophone Jon Amon is a Wisconsin native and a graduate of=20 the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater. He=20 graduated with a Bachelor of Music Education=20 degree and studied saxophone with Michael Bazan,=20 Robert Wilkerson, and Matthew Sintchak. He=20 continued his studies with Jean-Michel Goury at=20 the Conservatoire National de Region de=20 Boulogne-Billancourt. He has appeared as a=20 chamber musician around the Midwest and has=20 performed as a soloist at NASA Region III and=20 Region V conferences and at the most recent World=20 Saxophone Congress in Ljubljana, Slovenia. Amon=20 has also taught music in the school districts of=20 St. Croix Falls, Wisconsin and Arlington,=20 Massachusetts. Currently he is a student of Ken=20 Radnofsky at the New England Conservatory where=20 he is pursuing a Master of Music degree in=20 saxophone performance. Claudio Gabriele, Composer Claudio Gabriele was born in Rome in 1963,=20 completed his studies at St Cecilia Conservatory=20 and Istituto Pontificio di Musica Sacra in Rome=20 where he obtained degrees with Emphasis in=20 Composition, Electroacoustic Music, Conducting,=20 Piano, Organ, Harpsichord and Gregorian Chant.=20 Subsequently, he studied composition and=20 conducting with George Benjamin at the National=20 Academy of St Cecilia, with Klaus Huber in=20 Avignon, and Ivan Fedele at the Strasbourg's=20 National Regional Conservatory, where he achieved=20 the Dipl=F4me d'Etudes Musicales. From 1997 to 2004=20 he had many residencies in computer music at=20 IRCAM (Paris) with Ferneyhough, Lindberg, Harvey,=20 Rebotier, Levinas; afterwards studied electronic=20 music with Risset, Roads, Terruggi and Di Giugno=20 at the Centre for Musical Research in Rome. In=20 2003 Claudio Gabriele won the first prize of the=20 International Electroacoustic Music Contest=20 Musica Nova (Prague) with the acousmatic=20 composition "Ombra nell'azzurro"; in 2006 he won=20 an award at the International Composition Contest=20 "Music in the Garden" (Krakow). To promote and=20 expand interactive performances of music, dance,=20 images and electroacoustic sounds he founded the=20 Synthesis Ensemble in 1996. From 1994 to 2003,=20 Claudio Gabriele had an intense collaboration as=20 composer and guest lecturer with the New York=20 University, consequently collaborated with the=20 Juilliard School (New York), the Vanderbilt=20 University (Nashville) and the Universities of=20 Strasbourg and Montpellier(France).From 2005 to=20 2008 he was Composer in Residence at=20 Conservatories of Aix-en-Provence, N=EEmes and=20 Paris (France), where he received numerous=20 commissions for solo, duo, trio, ensemble, and=20 large symphony orchestra. Since 2005 he has been=20 involved in Musical Theatre, writing his own=20 librettos, and now has three works in his=20 catalogue of this genre, commissioned and=20 performed by leading ensembles (S.I.C., Reflex,=20 Les Jeunes Voix du Rhin, Musiques Nouvelles).=20 Claudio Gabriele is at present professor on=20 Composition, Analysis and Electroacoustic Music=20 in the Department of Music and New Technologies=20 at the State's Conservatory of Benevento (Italy).=20 Gabriele's works are published by "Les Editions=20 du Tourdion" (Strasbourg-France), "Musicare"=20 (Nimes-France), "Grenzland-Verlag"=20 (Aachen-Germany), and "Studio Musicale Arcangelo"=20 (Roma-Italy). His music is released on CD by=20 "Rivoalto" (Venezia), SMA (Roma), interpreted by=20 celebrated artists and performed worldwide in=20 prestigious places or on the occasion of=20 important international festivals. Emile Tobenfeld, Video Artist Emile Tobenfeld, AKA "Dr T" is an improvising=20 video artist who prefers to work with improvising=20 musicians who can see my projected images. His=20 video is derived from photographic and video=20 sources (as a still photographer since 1970),=20 sometimes processed beyond recognition using=20 software including Boris Red, Boris Continuum,=20 After Effects and Photoshop. He brings the images=20 to shows on DVD's and run 4 or 5 DVD players, 3=20 switchers, and a percussion controller to trigger=20 some of the switcher effects.He has also=20 composed/improvised a great deal of electronic=20 music over the years, though he has concentrated=20 my artistic efforts exclusively on video during=20 the last 3 years. He is known (in some circles) as the founder of=20 Dr T's Music Software and the author of the=20 uniquely powerful KCS Omega sequencer. His=20 current day job is writing video effects code for=20 Boris FX.His influences include free jazz, light=20 shows and experimental films, the photography of=20 Minor White, the paintings of Kandinsky, the=20 music of John Coltrane and the Grateful Dead, and=20 his education as a physicist. Juliet Case, Composer Juliet Case was passionate about music from an=20 early age. She learned folk guitar and classical=20 piano from her father, and began writing songs at=20 age twelve. She began her formal compositional=20 training at Bennington College, studying with=20 Allen Shawn and Stephen Siegel. She received a=20 master of music in composition in May 2008 from=20 the Longy School of Music, where she studied=20 composition with John Morrison. Juliet is=20 co-founder of "Juddertone", an organization=20 dedicated to supporting the collaboration of=20 composers and choreographers by producing an=20 annual show premiering all new work. Juliet is=20 interested in taking risks in her compositions,=20 and experiments with new sounds for traditional=20 instruments, extended techniques, and electronic=20 music. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dennis Shafer www.dennisshafer.com 785-979-8675 7 Hearn Street Watertown, MA -- My photography can be viewed at=20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 05:27:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FCA23BE78; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 05:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B4A8B3.2060008@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:27:15 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: NUGGETS of WISDOM for LOOP TOURING Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 05:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Rainer asked: "Really, Rick, is there (and has there been all the time) a subsidy on (car) gasoline prices in the U.S. for all your respective lives? Meaning that the vendor actually gets a guaranteed price on gas which will be achieved by using taxpayer's money if the market doesn't reflect that guarantee? I'm asking because here in Germany (which is part of Europe, and hence part of your counterexample), the tax portion on gas (including all those crazy taxes the invented from time to time) is above 60%, which may appear odd, destructive and all in all rather true to Stalinistic" ideals which, in fact, it is." Interesting, Rainer, I really don't know an in depth informed answer to that question. I do know that while in Europe, Petrol was between $3 and $4 per liter. At $12 to $16 a gallon (all of this approximate because my head cold precludes me getting out my calculator) that is now 6 to 8 TIMES as expensive as it is here (currently, $2/Gallon) That can't all be just the high taxes you guys pay, though surely that must be some of it. I've always understood that the big Oil Companies have had big subsidies and also that they have ridiculous tax write offs compared to normal folk. My father, who did research it, always said that American gasoline was subsidized which was part of what makes European and UK gasoline so expensive. Add the 60% tax and you guys really pay through the nose for it. Any Americans know the exact skinny on this subject? I'm just talking from assumptions I"ve made all my life and the fact that gas is so cheap here. For one thing, lacking any kind of decent public transportation except in the largest of cities and a train system that very, very few people ride and given the huge distances between cities, especially out here in the West of the US, we just wouldn't be able to get around if gasoline cost as much as it costs you. I love your train and subway system! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 06:45:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D58923BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:45:58 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.7400:2.4.4,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2009-03-09_01:2009-03-05,2009-03-09,2009-03-09 signatures=0 Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 22:45:57 -0700 From: Andrew Schoen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <926286221266116451154960584483964114-Webmail@me.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions X-Originating-IP: 24.22.177.136 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 06:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Hey there! Long time reader, first time emailer! I was truly excited to hear Ableton Live was going to add a looper to the Live arsenal! I have yet to open the demo, as I have other projects right to finish right now, but it is my understanding that any loops created can be brought into Live as an entire loop clip. This is where I am really, really disappointed. I hope I am totally wrong about this, but it seems to me that this is an extreme oversight on Abletons part. Right now I am using my Guitar Rig 3 Loop Machine, and once I get something I dig, then I export it as separate wav files and bring those into Live as separate clips and away I go. At least 50% of all the music I do starts this way. I just think that if you could separate your loop parts and import them as individual clips, then I would be in loopers heaven! If anyone knows differently, please let me know! Thanks for all the great insights! Andy Schoen www.untitledvisions.com On Sunday, March 08, 2009, at 09:56AM, "Warren Sirota" wrote: >I've been having a lot of trouble getting either Mobius or >SooperLooper AUs to work properly within Mainstage. Mainstage seems to >get flummoxed easily by too many midi streams floating around (esp >once i then open MAX). However, I can report great excitement getting >the Live 8 beta looper and Mainstage to work together - so I can use >the greasy MS guitar presets I've been working up, pipe the audio into >Ableton (via physical routing on a multi-channel audio interface), >make loops in Ableton, and sync the fx in Mainstage to the tempo of >the generated loop once i've completed it. I haven't tried this yet, >but I'll wager you could put a SooperLooper AU into another channel in >Live and have it slave, but not send clocks, after you've completed >the first loop in the native Live looper. that way, you could do the >fancier stuff like SUS functions. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 08:19:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7A4B3BE7C; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:19:21 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:19:23 +0000 (UTC) > Warren Sirota wrote: > I've been having a lot of trouble getting either Mobius or > SooperLooper AUs to work properly within Mainstage. Mainstage > seems to get flummoxed easily by too many midi streams > floating around (esp once i then open MAX). It took me a while to figure out a stable Mainstage setup. I've tested mu= ltiple setups using Mainstage as master, or slave, in combination with 3r= d party AU plugins such as Augustus and Bidule and a LP1. For example, I = had Mainstage synced to an external clock and I had Augustus Loop running= on a Mainstage bus. Mainstage or Augustus usually crashed, and I initial= ly thought that it had to do with using 3rd party AU plugin's on a bus (s= ome Logic forums had reported similar issues). But the solution was to sw= itch off the "send midi clock" preference in Augustus. I have done a simi= lar test with my LP1: 1) create a new loop 2) LP1 starts sending midi clock 3) within a minute, Mainstage crashed as soon as it detected multiple mid= i clocks (Augustus in this case) But now I know how to fix it, Mainstage has been very stable. I like the = concept of it, and it's pretty straightforward to use. I'm currently work= ing on creating new sounds and the integration of Bidule and Mainstage; I= have it up and running, and I'm trying to create a kind of semi-random S= oundscape/Ambient sounds with it. I must say that it's pretty cool to see= Bidule as AU plugin on a Mainstage bus but I'm not sure if this is the w= ay to go. For example, I don't know if you can still control a Bidule aud= io switcher using program changes. Does Mainstage forward PC's to plugins= ? Any suggestions are welcome :) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 09:44:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD8813BE78; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.6.0 mail-in-13.arcor-online.net D59982BAA6D DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236591865; bh=qQeO3iAhjt/02rsXCZ9tyY+JOpxjT/g4RVbBJRfF2Bk=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=eT64tTLjs0fvPfvNaUhaN6siniejA2k+vk0HEU+hkDLVh OarsJO4J+3CmEO6im4PcccomvsYCt3vLEDuo1Dq0/n1b+Yxzafj7w1WRFCShRkjo1iD R9pwhzwXZ7zm1wZ5RITAkrKgTBvZ/Kyz0FA9HXHJYE7QGmo5+ShB+MFh9Dc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <129209FD-13DF-47CE-83F0-E1857B086330@arcor.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: Re: gas prices, was Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:44:24 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/9080/Fri Mar 6 20:13:38 2009 on mail-in-13.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Rick said: > Also, for Americans, the price of petrol in Europe and the UK is > staggering compared to what we are used to in terms of subsidized > gasoline prices in the US all of our lives. > Rainer Said: "Really, Rick, is there (and has there been all the time) a subsidy on (car) gasoline prices in the U.S. for all your respective lives? Meaning that the vendor actually gets a guaranteed price on gas which will be achieved by using taxpayer's money if the market doesn't reflect that guarantee? I'm asking because here in Germany (which is part of Europe, and hence part of your counterexample), the tax portion on gas (including all those crazy taxes the invented from time to time) is above 60%, which may appear odd, destructive and all in all rather true to Stalinistic ideals which, in fact, it is." Yes, the state does charge a lot on gas in Germany. They take the money and build infrastructure (roads) for every car driver tu use more or less for free. If the environmental drain of very buildt car and every mile of driving it would be properly calculated they would have to charge much, much more. Question is whether the ecological damage can (or even should) be mended at all. The whole discussion of the rather low cost of worldwide transportation, globalisation and sustainability starts right there. No easy fix for this. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 10:05:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25B903BE72; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=crZO2+bKh5E+NbyWiuv6a6lR1QRvp4vgFGjB6cXyb7M=; b=GmZILqK/fj/5WotkFZSv0othso8ZlB7IfT6P/X65ehnmka0WAYVgXIFkJfqA2D8yl4 9lzjZOZ58tYW8wK8+Oiim60nYG+UoodF8jh+QyJqS5QP1SQXiTFdTycWihPSPnzbrKOt OPmHYLjBpa3jY4eyyciTB8mjtZJKiqM67xOLo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Xvf6KwsNe4hk4zJYYVVG/TKEllYp6Wc26viTgzBO7P3R3/sgpe8bToWd0Z91IUB9Ps MCkM+rMi9cVRCDqcKKJc1GwqJ2P7w13JYzA+koxBBopJbUpm0iIrmi/14YDy6j+TQ3ab a3cR0Kgbbg6FtbR9AETNnrB3mG9NZ2o7kUjmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <926286221266116451154960584483964114-Webmail@me.com> References: <926286221266116451154960584483964114-Webmail@me.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:05:13 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903090305l71c3d59ck8d7994b72b2b920b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:05:14 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Andrew Schoen wrote: > I was truly excited to hear Ableton Live was going to add a looper to the= Live arsenal! =A0I have yet to open the demo, > as I have other projects right to finish right now, but it is my understa= nding that any loops created can be brought into Live as an entire loop cli= p. Correct. There are two ways to do this. Drag the loop and drop it on an audio clip and the usual way of routing it to an armed audio track and activate a slot for triggering recording. > This is where I am really, really disappointed. =A0I hope I am totally wr= ong about this, but it seems to me that this is an extreme oversight on Abl= etons part. Not sure what you mean. Do you mean that it is bad that they did not implement a ful Undo History, as in Mobius, that would open up for a command to save old layers of a loop as separate files? > Right now I am using my Guitar Rig 3 Loop Machine, and once I get somethi= ng I dig, then I export it as separate wav files and bring those into Live = as separate clips and away I go. =A0At least 50% of all the music I do star= ts this way. > > I just think that if you could separate your loop parts and import them a= s individual clips, then I would be in loopers heaven! =A0If anyone knows d= ifferently, please let me know! There is a slicing function now in v 8 that devices a loop into parts. Not sure it works directly on the looper audio, but definitely on a clip frozen from the looper content. If you by "parts" mean earlier layers of the loop, that is not possible because only the latest layer is kept aside in a buffer for the Undo function. It's right that Lived 8's Looper is not very complex, but for some users that's a good point. I think it's pretty close to the Loop Station pedal from Roland. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 10:15:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE003BE82; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:15:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1236593719; bh=qmzMAOmZvGwyiMi59VMklIX7n4p/kEKhnW6VTdO8Zu4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RxTq21f81F/ifbQ/NEV+hzGbUxH0xs3dOZZih5likC3sMmo/D2T+ZErkP/NJ5zmFaDGlKatlt3HBwDtUlnZT3mu0MtgpEe0H92X2OG7L1A2C8Lih2hIRPwaivQ9w89yg9mqQ0ajlI3qecgYsYzGTC3on1tRqclPCng+XrPHmVbo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OdC0qcyFqgUEwgDOH1+NoEoZk7MqGJ2d/K3chi14rZsSY/6TIktsBXeHsKI2w1gBM+VUZMgvJmAc8W/zILyCTzqk3Ok0fT/FpwheEyrBZ+rYyBSazYiFrigF2ZJtp20AbiPKgVvWuC+sk3biN37jPDETuMnmlr2TiHRpgFSdusM=; Message-ID: <45016.48601.qm@web26401.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: P2ZyJlUVM1mL0QAgxVnglB_cNTkP_LZCMD3QpHE5CpF.9y_WgbBSLkzu_1eu.gxQz_Ymduc0BM.osLjuBRaBRRTJepyI_1lJoE.yI9WVm8tBuQvOY2q6jcFTyjF9nq3PPRyJrKrh8JiYOjNMFesYociBSdSzuDLj4MsnibAtXMPkJmS_VXoy5N.TWXqXeQIRs4X.kKceoXkVB9tZSiNTSH4.DT467Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <129209FD-13DF-47CE-83F0-E1857B086330@arcor.de> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:15:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Rhod Evans Subject: Re: gas prices, was Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1042279090-1236593718=:48601" Resent-Message-ID: <74yIa.A.NrC.4wOtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:15:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-1042279090-1236593718=:48601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I couldn't resist chipping in to this topic - we like a good old fashioned = moan here in the UK :)=0A=0AFolks, you want to try living in the Hebrides (= Scotland, UK). We pay =A31.15 for petrol (gas) and around =A31.27 for dies= el - this is per litre! It works out roughly at about $8 a gallon for petr= ol and $8.85 for diesel. On top of that (unlike in Germany by the sound of= it) we have to pay the UK road tax which is currently around =A3200 for th= e year I think. I read that tax makes up 69.9% of the petrol prices.=0A=0A= And then we wonder why tourism here is in decline...=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________= ________________________=0AFrom: Andreas Willers =0ATo:= Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Monday, 9 March, 2009 9:44:24= =0ASubject: Re: gas prices, was Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring=0A=0ARic= k said:=0A=0A> Also, for Americans, the price of petrol in Europe and the U= K is staggering compared to what we are used to in terms of subsidized gaso= line prices in the US all of our lives.=0A> =0A=0ARainer Said:=0A=0A"Really= , Rick, is there (and has there been all the time) a subsidy on=0A(car) gas= oline prices in the U.S. for all your respective lives?=0AMeaning that the = vendor actually gets a guaranteed price on gas which=0Awill be achieved by = using taxpayer's money if the market doesn't=0Areflect that guarantee?=0A= =0AI'm asking because here in Germany (which is part of Europe, and hence= =0Apart of your counterexample), the tax portion on gas (including all=0Ath= ose crazy taxes the invented from time to time) is above 60%, which=0Amay a= ppear odd, destructive and all in all rather true to Stalinistic=0Aideals w= hich, in fact, it is."=0A=0AYes, the state does charge a lot on gas in Germ= any. They take the money and build infrastructure (roads) for every car dri= ver tu use more or less for free. If the environmental drain of very buildt= car and every mile of driving it would be properly calculated they would h= ave to charge much, much more. Question is whether the ecological damage ca= n (or even should) be mended at all. The whole discussion of the rather low= cost of worldwide transportation, globalisation and sustainability starts = right there. No easy fix for this.=0A=0A=0A --0-1042279090-1236593718=:48601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I couldn't resist chipping in to this topic - we like a good old fa= shioned moan here in the UK :)

Folks, you want to try living in the = Hebrides (Scotland, UK).  We pay =A31.15 for petrol (gas) and around = =A31.27 for diesel - this is per litre!  It works out roughly at about= $8 a gallon for petrol and $8.85 for diesel.  On top of that (unlike = in Germany by the sound of it) we have to pay the UK road tax which is curr= ently around =A3200 for the year I think.  I read that tax makes up 69= .9% of the petrol prices.

And then we wonder why tourism here is in = decline...

From: Andreas Willers <a.willer= s@arcor.de>
To: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Se= nt: Monday, 9 March, 2009 9:44:24
Subject: Re: gas prices, was Nuggets of Wisdom for Lo= op Touring

Rick said:

> Also, for Americans, the pr= ice of petrol in Europe and the UK is staggering compared to what we are us= ed to in terms of subsidized gasoline prices in the US all of our lives.>

Rainer Said:

"Really, Rick, is there (and has there be= en all the time) a subsidy on
(car) gasoline prices in the U.S. for all = your respective lives?
Meaning that the vendor actually gets a guarantee= d price on gas which
will be achieved by using taxpayer's money if the m= arket doesn't
reflect that guarantee?

I'm asking because here in Germany (which is part of Europe, and hence
part of your counterexample= ), the tax portion on gas (including all
those crazy taxes the invented = from time to time) is above 60%, which
may appear odd, destructive and a= ll in all rather true to Stalinistic
ideals which, in fact, it is."
<= br>Yes, the state does charge a lot on gas in Germany. They take the money = and build infrastructure (roads) for every car driver tu use more or less f= or free. If the environmental drain of very buildt car and every mile of dr= iving it would be properly calculated they would have to charge much, much = more. Question is whether the ecological damage can (or even should) be men= ded at all. The whole discussion of the rather low cost of worldwide transp= ortation, globalisation and sustainability starts right there. No easy fix = for this.


=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1042279090-1236593718=:48601-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 10:22:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 680A23BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236594141; bh=o+QANwxiU+kasvhVZdCcMcQII9yVpA7F8a4o4YJE1t0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L/jkDmOdl2HD1uj9WwXTgca2/Drg5QvydgW9Eh1UswJLGm3zCE7DtW8nl1wnL+fAiUeyZmxZ+oBwl98rxtmGRtA00gYktoWYBqo6mvmBS8IUEe2p88pct/eXI/sgeanHKPsceR7qRYL6xjyAm8yXuGW1FIZMZy3PoSsst8w+f5M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IcO+hHz6XlJLI8F/h3DNKZmEgc0KbLK5dqw2SKEYGNupuNPs3liQJr4zOun2WFj1pPDjnIuRaxqNlVFFeh7RM7x6hpu+AJb+/tqiGaGGfTufdOdjlD8Gm9O8V/IUlNLfJVUPObef7/UJIypTfXMaewTPRjK1R47kIV81Ydrk4a0=; Message-ID: <275841.10178.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8tSd8XQVM1nNkI1.mOczSuku0cjghPH6yp7dLwk2XjY0K5iO90vPXoaq19qv6bsdaym94l0eyFZYsCTnRNFHm24VJc4vDde7ODZp9y5oGqJhVtJo28Yi9YRn0J6gOV.x9kXp41ByNmsE7TuaZQLeyLQQtA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:22:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: NUGGETS of WISDOM for LOOP TOURING To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B4A8B3.2060008@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <3-o3bB.A.BID.e3OtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:22:22 +0000 (UTC) you nailed it right there Rick,i had to have 2 cars back when i lived in San Diego otherwise id loose my job there was no way to get around anywhere if u car doesnt function,public transportation if it can be called that in SD is the biggest joke! Luis > For one thing, lacking any kind of decent public > transportation except in the largest of cities and a train > system that very, very few people ride and given the huge > distances between cities, especially out here in the West of > the US, we just wouldn't be able to get around if > gasoline cost as much as it costs you. > > I love your train and subway system! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 10:30:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 335D53BE80; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236594644; bh=VucUMDxvRmaRxsZ12i+bFK+RdIfA3Ur07pEAObxijq0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OcEAorxQihuduXkFDyV8riMxkq9D11PQEgVkEU/CMYy4Eq7kqJpm/Ek8ieBE9zsMK60DtU+qq/UTUzWw3zdlazsYihkQT+nu5S+C8+AIUIf8jiVAtyYIqb1ET3cmp4e1mhnuGUV9vPVQ2zxBZcxfzeWmTP8k/eHl6xvoRockVWM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GTmPJq6BedUBOnpaIRn4axF/UbBsVQbbRo4fnyjcCGmvrj/B/ZFiNrJ1n0yKTRWXKMvcEUpXV3POC/ds+EUil+lk3K7tgKdYYcR59dB1+oSlVOa85jsQ9gWBRhPar8gUVnEqAfUpDnUck0Z1TjI+QgBnQdAbTwpYdDwwLiB7jsY=; Message-ID: <265501.89268.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: X4Wwn5cVM1neoejz6n3mPpxcRizNOdBitrRKovOmfJC1qpa4OJqsJN1mnUiQOfh1m_dZPQ2NhPg9LUN3acAs1tLUqXPR16M7vVph8RqzUg0yaapiIszTnNm4RUIXshi284FyQr3E9iE4En8Atk.626F2TqPMnc5WlgS5A0quQQ0EpjkqyNCDxTFD3TPEX8MxepbLn8uQ1SQ0mNFqxUNAQ12JqXo0U.C4fOnLIhs- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 03:30:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: choosing between these soundcards for laptop To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <30OkOC.A.UmD.V_OtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, I need your advice on this one my Firebox has crapped out and is going to thake a while to get repaired since i have to send it to the states. So i am on the hunt for another more reliable one,between the 300 to 600 price range which one would you choose between these? it needs to be bus powered,ins and outs should be assignable,drivers should be stable,good sounding preamps and most of all reliable.Please tell me your experiences with them! EDIROL FA-66 MOTU Ultralite MK 3 ECHO AUDIOFIRE 4 thanx for your advice Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 10:31:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11F3E3BE88; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ocG2WbND608ewqrKiI9FHxZ0q4M3AbCbkIBv34bq198=; b=iIMu7yHr4F7qvu6memz68FFcypNTlCAXeipqHe11OQ/8B2TgigTohuLEld+eXZeCCA 3iWETQcqP7xsmxjoyp25mTwUEdHdNjZ0cc5K+yuOH8YI/4eB++zPBHDouPC9VKwDmwvU 6PNlYOzqhAcvxVId5nucr5VyELD+dRMDbuKGk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gRisFdiSysQ7zTB3c50qstbqOmCA0iYXtyUD1dLUS1H7N40c/xyDCAr7AxMy9Z9v63 /xO+unfyrFvWzr7hObJiAkOv/7fs7lWZK1rES7OCbFGbuChArjfAs83yLf/RSLyD+abg LxaPforXNSKoW8NNu8TaJ4t5sFCdg2dpkV7mo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090308235040.0xqdq7wgj4o0sc8c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <20090308235040.0xqdq7wgj4o0sc8c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:31:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903090331n14d5676dvc4e1fa17ba9eca75@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Three new looped works from Kevin From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Sounds great, Kevin! Listening now to Fdb Snow Flakes. woops He, he... my typo made it almost interpret into Feedback Snow Flakes, but that's another one for sure ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:50 AM, wrote: > Hi! > > I've been busy the last few weeks. =A0I have wanted to do some looping wi= th my > Aries Modular and I went through and re-calibrated the oscillators and di= d a > little other tweaking. =A0I also wanted to use my Looperlative LP1. > > Specifically, I wanted to work out the problem of moving from one section= to > another and explore possibilities with the LP1's Midi Clock output (since= my > synth's MIDI-to-CV converter has a DIN SYNC mode). =A0One technique I use= to > build some loops is to start with by-in-large rhythmically incomprehensib= le > bloops and bleeps and then attempt to turn it into something. =A0I posted= two > tracks from these efforts entitled, "My Dance Card" and "My Radar Detecto= r". > > In addition, I wanted to do a non-rhythmic ("ambient") looped work with t= he > LP1 and the Aries, and it is entitled "February Snowflakes". > > I added these to my Aries synthesizer page and you can download the mp3s > from there: > > http://kevinkissinger.com/ariesinfo.shtml > > I enjoyed improvising these tracks and hope you enjoy listening to them. > =A0They are a bit of a departure from work I've done in the past. > > Sincerely, > > Kevin > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 10:50:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 766E53BE88; 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charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 10:50:08 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > One technique I use to >> build some loops is to start with by-in-large rhythmically incomprehensi= ble >> bloops and bleeps and then attempt to turn it into something. =A0I poste= d two >> tracks from these efforts entitled, "My Dance Card" and "My Radar Detect= or". >> I love this music and its evolving character :-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 11:39:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 218143BE78; 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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: > Andy, > > you do not specify which of the items 1-10 you mention are actually > hard requirements or if there are any other soft requirements, but... > Needs 1) two inputs can be be panned/treated separately, or together 2) filters and tremolo synced to midi clock 3) Must be ways to "stereoise" both inputs individually, with delays. 4) Output on XLRs Much prefer 1) 1U rack mount Likes 1) hmm, reverb can be nice 2) addition unbalanced line out for recording 3) light weight 4) light price 5) good flanger 6) a delay of 5s for additional loop texture > Some people have suggested the FireworX: while the FireworX offers a > lot of great options (great flexibility in routing structure, > including the option to insert an external device into the signal > chain via the s/pdifs, lots of modulation options, including pitch > detection and a pattern sequencer, great digital lo-fi effects), I've > always found that it lacks processing power seriously, given its > richness in features. You typically max out at 3 to 4 processing > blocks (and some of them are only available once, e.g. only one filter > at a time), so this may limit you a lot if you want to process two > mono inputs separately. thanks, that's interesting, ...very useful. Heavy processing on both channels isn't essential, but it's great to have an idea of the limitations. I'm fascinated that it has an fx loop, so the edps could go into that and give me the option of pre-process as well. I'm guessing that like the MPX1 there's a big wait when changing patches, with no sound, is that the case? > The fact that it only has XLR connectors is not a showstopper but > somehow impractical. I need XLR out. ...but would be nice to have a jack out to hook up a recording device. > Btw, maximum delay time if I remember correctly > is something like 2.9 seconds (mono). right, the MPX1 has a 2 sec stereo delay which looks like it could be configured as 4sec mono > Summary: it's by far not as cool as it looks, because of a lack of > processing power. However it has a lot of flexibility which only a > tiny few (read: Eventide H8000 etc.) effects processors have to offer. right, but those Eventides are extra expensive. > And the lo-fi/digital dirt effects are a welcome addition. maybe, I generally avoid as always I seem to have tinnitus after hearing digi-distortion > > Now something for the "bizarre and unsuitable" reign: enter the Clavia > Nord Modular G2 Engine. 1HU in size, this device (which is basically > an extremely flexible virtual modular synth) doesn't have any > front-panel knobs or displays of any kind - so some kind of solution > for patch change is needed - and for effects editing, you actually > need a computer. ahhh well, maybe that fits exactly, ...off to check it out :-) > Why do I recommend it anyway? Lots of processing options! Tons of > flexibility! And you even get a free synthesizer! > I have been using the Nord MicroModular (the previous model's tiny > version in a small tabletop case) a lot - however that old one only > had minimum delay capability. A great thing! Highly recommended! > Claude Voit used to use one to pattern-sequence his EDPs. > > Rainer thanks Rainer, and also to Bill, Luca, Per for suggestion the Fireworx, which is still a possible. andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 12:05:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92E703BE7C; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:05:27 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:Three new looped works from Kevin MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <5dhDYB.A.gCG.JYQtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:05:29 +0000 (UTC) > Specifically, I wanted to work out the problem of moving from one > section to another and explore possibilities with the LP1's Midi Clock = > output. In the beginning I used a midi tap tempo, the LP1 in slave mode, a midi-s= ynced delay effect to create an initial loop and record that with "midi s= ync rec" on the LP1 as master track. But using the LP1 as master clock ha= s the advantage that it calculates the tempo for you and this results in = a more spontanious 1st loop and tempo. I more and more prefer the last me= thod. > One technique I use to build some loops is to start with by-in-large > rhythmically incomprehensible bloops and bleeps and then attempt to > turn it into something. I have been experimenting with create short rhythmic loops of 1-2 seconds= . Techniques I use with the LP1: - very fast speed changes with an expression pedal result in weird artifa= cts and bleeps =3D> great tip from Bill Walker - random use of (unsynced) replace function - I also have a CTL pedal programmed to create a copy of the current loop= and play it half speed. The LP1 keeps the copy in sync with the master l= oop - random use of feedback - feedback of 0% to "remove" the bad stuff ;) > I enjoyed improvising these tracks and hope you enjoy listening to > them. I did :) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 12:14:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD533BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yzCTT7Q41TyMCaKwUN5aUxqWtReNs/hxYcuOKf3d4E8=; b=MHlEqRTfcKHSM/hSJbjts7NggAXPVAUOHwFqYHbdgowMvugN9LWY5uxIlFfkbwO2Vi UfuEpV0YkGUCayv/RlQidKcflW3RATxt+v3qrMeV1KUySc1rgRMXbYJ9bziW7nt0v3Mm zp7TmL2Bf7E3c+wX2Ijp2OYkyv/35vEYxrQNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=sukYauJ9ue+31nFyTdf/qI+WPvcR6j6tvxvk/aoFWly2fb2obU9BjDFqTW3294IaUl W/CiSZazwULCALm+0bqDnF3XEmke4NS2C1bPoiUS8ZoX6zEOnnlCfZ4/Rsoedpu2PO2U xTja2NIHXKVUxUWD6epBN7MdWGQgTFR+elXYM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B501ED.3080503@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7334ca1b0903081530yc28eafcr162e2c60e493dbdb@mail.gmail.com> <49B501ED.3080503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:14:24 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903090514y55ddf1f1ld1284e062f785a7c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: wanted: suggestion for loop post processor From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:14:25 +0000 (UTC) >> Some people have suggested the FireworX: > I've >> always found that it lacks processing power seriously, That is the reason why I used my FireworX pre looper. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:47 PM, andy butler wrote: > > I'm fascinated that it has an fx loop, so the edps could go into > that and give me the option of pre-process as well. Yes, that fascinated me as well but unfortunately I found the FireworX loop latency way too big to be useful in praxis. They actually hinted about the problem in the manual ;-)) And your presumption regarding patch changing is also correct. You have to change patch in between sounding inputs or there will happen nasty audio drop-outs. Not a problem when using it at the pre looper position but a serious issue if wanting to put it to work as a post loop effect processor. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 13:18:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1CE63BE79; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FIhvouFJc0lUicHBRj1ne8OtCklYA5cUCOJPbrA8ZVY=; b=flfh2FyimnWwQWMupMbYRJEYUXtBPgCA/202KLQsCmRTEE7CgfvOfZOUjnlH/9hBB9 yM/gNZUa2T0aufArbwxdT5fUvrqDVnLmCoXjFU8aw7OweI46iXEnXC/wFP01+YFO92ft o2Dp4kUFS0osgjY2mOGkqhaGltZVY47TvQLWI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=cwKrbaVb+t6JghMevJowBDk6VvKWwVPwcXvq912Jb0NGrq6UwnxCOVj8/mZ0BAvhEW Mrk3hsPDQ8dLwJY7NJ/lm9Xjst4y4oqiGqRNEXXN8M00sd9rPTKj9ze8fkJ65AHbXOsM Jaase9EaKmxtvy5SlVdlCbW/3/q9lDikO5VT4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:18:37 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0f5e2a5e459078dc Message-ID: <101191640903090618p2f6309d2xc0b391b9ad2642b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:18:37 +0000 (UTC) Well, Sjaak, that's my point - i *need* those clock outs! why Mainstage can't have a simple control panel to tell it which midi inputs to ignore, like Live has, is just bad interface design and lazy programming (in fact, Live has it all over Logic in terms of interface design, but that's a whole nother story). I'm starting to get happy with the new setup - the Live looper is simple but effective - my biggest complaint so far: it's hard to reset. once you've made a loop, Live will start playing. you can't make a new, unsynced loop (to which Live should then sync) wo clicking to stop live and then clicking to clear the loop. Of course, I intend to program a single pedal to do both. But there's a hidden catch - if i were, for instance, recording that output into Live's arrangement view, well... uh-oh, end of recording. Which means that maybe i'll end up throwing a bidule into Live's Master track to do the recording regardless of what Live is doing. that would probably work. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Sjaak wrote: >> Warren Sirota wrote: >> I've been having a lot of trouble getting either Mobius or >> SooperLooper AUs to work properly within Mainstage. Mainstage >> seems to get flummoxed easily by too many midi streams >> floating around (esp once i then open MAX). > > It took me a while to figure out a stable Mainstage setup. I've tested mu= ltiple setups using Mainstage as master, or slave, in combination with 3rd = party AU plugins such as Augustus and Bidule and a LP1. For example, I had = Mainstage synced to an external clock and I had Augustus Loop running on a = Mainstage bus. Mainstage or Augustus usually crashed, and I initially thoug= ht that it had to do with using 3rd party AU plugin's on a bus (some Logic = forums had reported similar issues). But the solution was to switch off the= "send midi clock" preference in Augustus. I have done a similar test with = my LP1: > 1) create a new loop > 2) LP1 starts sending midi clock > 3) within a minute, Mainstage crashed as soon as it detected multiple mid= i clocks (Augustus in this case) > > But now I know how to fix it, Mainstage has been very stable. I like the = concept of it, and it's pretty straightforward to use. I'm currently workin= g on creating new sounds and the integration of Bidule and Mainstage; I hav= e it up and running, and I'm trying to create a kind of semi-random Soundsc= ape/Ambient sounds with it. I must say that it's pretty cool to see Bidule = as AU plugin on a Mainstage bus but I'm not sure if this is the way to go. = For example, I don't know if you can still control a Bidule audio switcher = using program changes. Does Mainstage forward PC's to plugins? Any suggesti= ons are welcome :) > > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 13:26:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 880083BE7F; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=W5vs+srkJyFCmoJ/rq09lweg2nox0iHT0pCR4Pje3/8=; b=TJEfw7BMRLysqN4rn+iMNdysF2Y9FyLhPHwI6YGgHiFlzjr4K52ZDTXCHGPFO2lGdt IGSj+XfBpkKjEG7d883RyQzGRzbrwXEJOUvo8IOMwoT/vfV36wFV5rQxrYUTKI0SScot siajrI8vOSZakYBmuTZyvKmffaNGqk0tIeFEA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iAcQfuCo5uc7ksANG4nQl/j7349888h1LUsOq+yH4Krwzm8aPy7rq5HLz72QRz0npw OL1mocqtKvH/YVyEICiDVAfVtyPMDvzBFSHOXJIpZxgNkBui33Ph9Le37WeinaPMI4HF CeSIR4Kt0bUUUXLw9hDlDkoqpkf1mUnyylUck= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B4902D.2020206@mhorse.com> References: <08DD0F3A-E30C-4D40-AB2C-EE977270CF5E@arcor.de> <66f9cc1e0903081557i1ef7076dh25e2a41f12859c96@mail.gmail.com> <49B4902D.2020206@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:26:58 +0000 (UTC) > And have I just been unaware of scales at check-in for carry-on stuff? Is > that happening in Europe but not the States as yet? I've definitely had more > than 10 kg before. Size and weight limits on US flights. 50lb or less or there's a big charge - $100 instead of just the regular bag charge - $15 for the first, $25 for additional. At $100 a bag, it's cheaper to book a seat for your luggage. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I'm getting a pair of cargo pants tomorrow - sounds like the flying looper's > trouser of choice! > > I love the thought of belting those pants with wrapped cables, but isn't > that a big pain to take off for the x-ray machines? > > And have I just been unaware of scales at check-in for carry-on stuff? Is > that happening in Europe but not the States as yet? I've definitely had more > than 10 kg before. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> One thing I do is to wear trousers with huge pockets on the legs. My >> rather heavy soundcard fits well into one such pocket. All things you >> pack into your pockets will not tax your weight in luggage and by >> picking the heaviest stuff for pockets you save loads of money from >> over weight fees. I've even been flying with lots of midi and audio >> cabled used as "belt" for my trousers, another way to save money. >> >> The cabin baggage is usually allowed at maximum eight or ten kilo >> weight. But since you are obliged to take out the laptop anyway at the >> check-in it won't be on the scales with the rest of the stuff - so you >> may safely plan your exact cabin bag weight MINUS laptop weight. > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 13:39:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FF5E3BE75; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:39:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oAnXhffc717hvdylmPThAKfA2HobvJ+ndt1y1j3bcHc=; b=w/GJb26pSvJVIyqKbjx2eYGGbtJNBcYK8tVxrT0EbIbHMWjlbu3D1sEBZx7iZItxlM VpGvPj6m+jHiHGCNrDq9Hb4tDeK4DE/mJ6vNEN8jWpxc20Z9kWAN9pLc1c4qW7TmgQGE PvcJJsZkPDa1i6uDxXfFgVqswyCpwZb7IINkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=TzZBWxITg2re7FLhneGWlwC4EHfiSpTWIC+0mtA1NOnoQTq675hlTvkXjlYPC6nf73 cqSQcFSr5FslSeKLBDiSEmdnHOu4vvkey6C9xaRx0Cz/ldTXPJbTT3finapb0JSpsBWw DfQlHb++e4VqX/IxmYWip+gIW8NBjmhFzsQc4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903081553j54886d95s942c471f04c2d3d2@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903081315n570a8208x3caa77614556387d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903081503q42e6621cq9940018ccf11142a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903081553j54886d95s942c471f04c2d3d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:39:26 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2b66965f196ff0c3 Message-ID: <101191640903090639s2c7ae57u4e735d01b3678abf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:39:27 +0000 (UTC) At the risk of adding more confusion that clarification, I'll say what i'd do, which is to wring out the noise and distortion systematically from the first stage to the last. you are navigating between the Scylla and Charybdis of noise and distortion. if any input level to any device is too high, it will overdrive the input and cause distortion. if it's too low, then the receiving device will have to over-amplify the signal, and will amplify the noise floor as well, causing, well, noise to be more evident. the output level of your guitar might be treated a little differently, as in some setups it is deliberately used to overdrive the next stage, so you might want an optimal clean setup with your guitar output set to 7 or 8. i don't usually do things this way, but Eddie Van Halen probably would. So, first, I'd hook up guitar to Vortex, put the guitar vol where you like it, and try to check that I had an optimal signal coming out the Vortex (primarily by adjusting the input gain control on the vortex). of course, to listen to the vortex means that you have to put it's output into a mixer or something, so you need to make sure that you're not over-or-under-driving the input of the mixer by fiddling with the Vortex output. but your vortex output settings may change when you insert the next item in the chain. after you've got this stage optimized, write down the vortex input gain setting - this will not change. then insert one more device between vortex and mixer. turn input gain on new device down, turn vortex output up to max, or to somewhere in the 7-8 range (a lot of device seem to operate best around there for some reason) and see whether you've overdriven the new input. adjust the input gain on the new device up until you hear distortion at the output. keep moving forward. i'm sure people will find ways to pick this apart, but this kind of methodology has stood me in good stead. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 13:43:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07E973BE82; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:43:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mMW9/P4SRyjXLZQPJ5jwkM02EXrhW9qjlKPRSk3iHGo=; b=ONAwZvkTjzm3u7D8nJQx6iB49dxYrrQ1He94Hg7vC2S5aVdjMwZMBGICU/76yaaiaI Uo23IOABdHlX1JcnSOVNHzNjwf0kbLEovHdrTK6d8iTtdQXpcNc5yZGgDODFT099zh5D IRr4FG9xVjLz6OMTReogFp8lAALGOxdmR7J8M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=D0ScSlnrqutYjz80AAKvYsUWfoUsH9dflmBUG5J6k+TRTxi3K8kWQkANVoopQ2gR8X aAz4qB12Wk2C0hD7I1zySdAM/E0E8ryPl/FdIGdHJNkrl/l8Fc3nRl4R0XuHuTjYKUwD u7v8e/5rdgLgf+Oif28hO1chJ85sptGysFkks= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640903090618p2f6309d2xc0b391b9ad2642b9@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903090618p2f6309d2xc0b391b9ad2642b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:43:51 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903090643of0b2c4frbda904181cb65847@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:43:52 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Sjaak wrote: >> But now I know how to fix it, Mainstage has been very stable. I like the= concept of it, and it's pretty straightforward to use. I'm currently worki= ng on creating new sounds and the integration of Bidule and Mainstage; I ha= ve it up and running, and I'm trying to create a kind of semi-random Sounds= cape/Ambient sounds with it. I must say that it's pretty cool to see Bidule= as AU plugin on a Mainstage bus but I'm not sure if this is the way to go.= For example, I don't know if you can still control a Bidule audio switcher= using program changes. Does Mainstage forward PC's to plugins? MainStage doesn't forward any midi input to plug-ins on a bus. That's why I let my Mobius AU, that lives on a bus, fetch all its external MIDI control data directly from the global MIDI In port (rather than through MS's graphic screen control icon objects). I had bad crashes of MS when running VST plug-ins inside the AU plug-in, but I have not had time to check if this was due only to Bidule AU or in some way related to the fact that I send out MIDI Clock into an OS X IAC Bus that MainStage used as its sync signal for slave syncing (BTW this works like a charm now with the Mobius AU as master sync device) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 13:45:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 583273BE88; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Odcq+Nik/nz3n0XDlHLsN2PJBkACOar7a8c1cITHAWY=; b=tE9FCwzSvBo4KgPyJERwTX8/q1Og1lTtKGytTJhZHtbGRjxtUGermjQCx9S2nFPHMO gvqrsixG1TRcWz2jqqq80FhnIlcIALVwxhecu4WrGs5KDPnuZUFQmFhzwv0YaWMHTBL1 cTwsEo/0dKcpITXzpLCzt2AChYCMkxO119Zak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cv7GmUNHTzWqXO36TJSLgaFR6qZYdPOXlvLZpVlrFLASD1iQcofnLwyx0i9t+0cIon ef5QgqLsuiBGhu5rqv8cKnaxERwWRC1n9CBoo1LNlQmw/3r96zdny7SvArJlRC6aJgrh 5tJNXVBlTf0HRfFIQ7d77pHAFtIK5jcThefOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B501ED.3080503@tiscali.co.uk> References: <7334ca1b0903081530yc28eafcr162e2c60e493dbdb@mail.gmail.com> <49B501ED.3080503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:45:39 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: wanted: suggestion for loop post processor From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) In the 'not available anymore but worth getting a used one' category, if you come across a Roland RSP-550, check it out. I have one but have not had a lot of chance to play with the MIDI features (which there are a lot of it seems.) It's got quite nice reverbs and delays and apparently a vocoder. It's a pretty deep unit, I just haven't had the chance to delve into it. It's on the list, behind the VG8, MPX100, Vortex... so many toys. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:47 AM, andy butler wrote: > Rainer Straschill wrote: >> >> Andy, >> >> you do not specify which of the items 1-10 you mention are actually >> hard requirements or if there are any other soft requirements, but... >> > > Needs 1) two inputs can be be panned/treated separately, or together > 2) filters and tremolo synced to midi clock > 3) Must be ways to "stereoise" both inputs individually, with delays. > 4) Output on XLRs > Much prefer > 1) 1U rack mount > > Likes > 1) hmm, reverb can be nice > 2) addition unbalanced line out for recording 3) light weight > 4) light price 5) good flanger > 6) a delay of 5s for additional loop texture > > >> Some people have suggested the FireworX: while the FireworX offers a >> lot of great options (great flexibility in routing structure, >> including the option to insert an external device into the signal >> chain via the s/pdifs, lots of modulation options, including pitch >> detection and a pattern sequencer, great digital lo-fi effects), I've >> always found that it lacks processing power seriously, given its >> richness in features. You typically max out at 3 to 4 processing >> blocks (and some of them are only available once, e.g. only one filter >> at a time), so this may limit you a lot if you want to process two >> mono inputs separately. > > thanks, that's interesting, ...very useful. > Heavy processing on both channels isn't essential, but it's great to > have an idea of the limitations. > > I'm fascinated that it has an fx loop, so the edps could go into > that and give me the option of pre-process as well. > > I'm guessing that like the MPX1 there's a big wait when changing patches, > with no sound, is that the case? > > >> The fact that it only has XLR connectors is not a showstopper but >> somehow impractical. > > I need XLR out. > ...but would be nice to have a jack out to hook up a recording device. > >> Btw, maximum delay time if I remember correctly >> is something like 2.9 seconds (mono). > > right, the MPX1 has a 2 sec stereo delay which looks > like it could be configured as 4sec mono > > > >> Summary: it's by far not as cool as it looks, because of a lack of >> processing power. However it has a lot of flexibility which only a >> tiny few (read: Eventide H8000 etc.) effects processors have to offer. > > right, but those Eventides are extra expensive. > > > >> And the lo-fi/digital dirt effects are a welcome addition. > > maybe, I generally avoid as always I seem to have tinnitus after hearing > digi-distortion > >> >> Now something for the "bizarre and unsuitable" reign: enter the Clavia >> Nord Modular G2 Engine. 1HU in size, this device (which is basically >> an extremely flexible virtual modular synth) doesn't have any >> front-panel knobs or displays of any kind - so some kind of solution >> for patch change is needed - and for effects editing, you actually >> need a computer. > > ahhh > well, maybe that fits exactly, ...off to check it out :-) > > >> Why do I recommend it anyway? Lots of processing options! Tons of >> flexibility! And you even get a free synthesizer! >> I have been using the Nord MicroModular (the previous model's tiny >> version in a small tabletop case) a lot - however that old one only >> had minimum delay capability. A great thing! Highly recommended! >> Claude Voit used to use one to pattern-sequence his EDPs. >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > thanks Rainer, and also to Bill, Luca, Per for suggestion the Fireworx, > which is still a possible. > > andy >> >> > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 14:24:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93B0C3BE7F; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:24:08 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.85 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <-i1qNB.A.1iD.LaStJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:24:11 +0000 (UTC) >Warren wrote: > Well, Sjaak, that's my point - i *need* those clock outs! why > Mainstage can't have a simple control panel to tell it which midi > inputs to ignore, like Live has, is just bad interface design Warren, I'm trying to understand how you want to use your setup. So you u= se multiple devices sending midi clock data (merged, so they don't influe= nce each other) and you want to filter these in Mainstage on patch level?= And use one of you devices as midi tempo source? In the past, I used a M= iditemp router to do this kind of filtering before sending the data to th= e midi input's of any device. But I'm afraid you can't do that with MS. I'm wondering if you can install the OSX version of Midi-Ox which sits be= tween the midi-in port and the midi applications and allows you to do exa= ctly that. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 14:27:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FDB83BE82; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9A0C3.1F0A20FA" Subject: looping mixers coming out of the woodwork, lol Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:27:05 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73FF0D2E3@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: looping mixers coming out of the woodwork, lol Thread-Index: Acmgwx2+sogWKTAkQCGfcDEZxVaDKQ== From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2009 14:27:28.0719 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CC8BDF0:01C9A0C3] Resent-Message-ID: <-WEduC.A.LrD.SdStJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:27:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A0C3.1F0A20FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I guess I should have said that the Rane CM86 is the best mixer = for ME, lol..... =20 I am using all eight channels on this mixer, which is probably not = normal around here, lol, but I am some kind of maniac (wait all us = eggheads in here must be crazy.....is there ever an end to figuring this = stuff out, are ya'll like me, is there not an activity any more fun that = screwing in rack screws on a new rack unit? I mean, I am whack, I refuse = to even use an electric screwdriver because I dont want to speed up the = pleasure of putting in rack screws....) like this =20 1 Digitech 1101, which is all my acoustic instruments 2 Yamaha TG 55 hooked to the keys on the Novation controller 3 Drum machine=20 4 Hammond XM-1 organ module (cool organ sound and cheap!!!) 5 Bass line for Fender P bass (I am working on getting this on a stand = so I can just walk up to it) 6 Mic for hand percussion instruments 7 Mic line for mic that I use for going into the V4 vocal = harmonizer/effect unit, so I can just switch to this mic when I want = harmony and loop that output 8 Vocal mic for lead vocs =20 Now, the CM 86 is NOT LIGHT, so it fails there for sure, all Rane stuff = is heavy, this is an old old unit of theirs, I used to endorse them and = set up at trade shows and show their stuff, so I have a lot of it laying = around. =20 I guess what I am trying to accomplish in some way is a way to switch = things in and out of the looper to decrease noise accumulation, so I = like the on/off possibilities of this mixer......BUT what I really want = is that Sound Sculpture midi controlled analog patch bay, then you could = really get some control. Actually, it has the ability to, with midi = control, just build a mixer into the patch bay, there is level control, = pan, blah blah blah, so that would mean a 16 x 16 mixer in one rack = space, but you need a Novation or something to control it. =20 Also, TOO BIG, but something I have been looking at on ebay lately is = the old Mackie CR 1604s with the Otto midi control, you can control a = lot of the aux's, faders, etc on those old mixers with midi, now that = would be a cool way to build a system that with one button push you can = set up all you need for a new song. =20 One limitation I just found last night on the CM86 (I spoke too soon, = lol) is that the aux sends are made (aux a aux b) to only go to the main = out a and b, which makes no sense, BUT if you set a and b main out to = mono then it sums, but what I like about the non-stereo stereo of this = mixer is that there is no pan, you actually have on the main chanell out = control of the channel a set of concentric knobs that send more or less = of a to a and b to b, so that is really two mixes, I can send a to mon = and b to the LP1 and set the LP1 to wet only and it makes it real easy = to set levels that way, and I dont have to monitor through the LP1 like = I used to, cause it is a bit noisy, BUT since the auxs are split like = that, since last night when I added another TC m300 (LOVE IT, midi = control, cheap, like 100 bucks on ebay) then I cant use both auxs that = way.....arrrgggg.....my brain is about to blow up figuring this out. But = each chanell has an insert point, but if I put a reverb on there for = example, then I lose my "on/off" of setting the aux to pre and post = which acts like an on off switch,,,,,, =20 Anyway that little behringer is nice, they are just a bit noisy, I have = a couple of different ones. =20 Kevin mentioned getting from one section to another on the lp1 as a bit = of a challenge, but I am working now with my Novation control surface on = that, it is really cool to set the faders to control the LP1 tracks, and = then I have a set of eight buttons that alternate between play and stop, = so if I cut the first three tracks for example to section A of a song, = then track the next section on the next three, then with the push of a = button or foot switch I can turn off section A or B..........now I dont = have this down yet, but it is possible, I am doing it. Programming the = LP1 and Novation so that with a foot button control I can say to the LP1 = "mute that last track, and start recording a new one" you know, ya'll = probably all have all that down anyway, I am just a hillbilly here in a = log cabin in North Carolina, 18 miles from the grocery store, and so = looping, I dont have to wait for anyone to come over and jam!!!! =20 Well, I sure went from silent to too long winded, but those are my = random thoughts for the day. I hope to have some music for ya'll to hear = someday soon. For my "regular" music, you can go to www.andyowens.com=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A0C3.1F0A20FA Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
Well, I guess I should = have said that the Rane CM86 is the best mixer for ME, = lol.....
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I am using all eight channels on this = mixer, which is probably not normal around here, lol, but I am some kind = of maniac (wait all us eggheads in here must be crazy.....is there ever = an end to figuring this stuff out, are ya'll like me, is there not an = activity any more fun that screwing in rack screws on a new rack unit? I = mean, I am whack, I refuse to even use an electric screwdriver because I = dont want to speed up the pleasure of putting in rack screws....) like = this
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5 Bass line for Fender P bass (I am = working on getting this on a stand so I can just walk up to = it)
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7 Mic line for mic that I use for going = into the V4 vocal harmonizer/effect unit, so I can just switch to this = mic when I want harmony and loop that output
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Now, the CM 86 is NOT LIGHT, so it = fails there for sure, all Rane stuff is heavy, this is an old old unit = of theirs, I used to endorse them and set up at trade shows and show = their stuff, so I have a lot of it laying around.
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I guess what I am trying to accomplish = in some way is a way to switch things in and out of the looper to = decrease noise accumulation, so I like the on/off possibilities of this = mixer......BUT what I really want is that Sound Sculpture midi = controlled analog patch bay, then you could really get some control. = Actually, it has the ability to, with midi control, just build a mixer = into the patch bay, there is level control, pan, blah blah blah, so that = would mean a 16 x 16 mixer in one rack space, but you need a Novation or = something to control it.
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Also, TOO BIG, but something I have = been looking at on ebay lately is the old Mackie CR 1604s with the Otto = midi control, you can control a lot of the aux's, faders, etc on those = old mixers with midi, now that would be a cool way to build a system = that with one button push you can set up all you need for a new = song.
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One limitation I just found last night = on the CM86 (I spoke too soon, lol) is that the aux sends are made (aux = a aux b) to only go to the main out a and b, which makes no sense, BUT = if you set a and b main out to mono then it sums, but what I like about = the non-stereo stereo of this mixer is that there is no pan, you = actually have on the main chanell out control of the channel a set of = concentric knobs that send more or less of a to a and b to b, so that is = really two mixes, I can send a to mon and b to the LP1 and set the LP1 = to wet only and it makes it real easy to set levels that way, and I dont = have to monitor through the LP1 like I used to, cause it is a bit noisy, = BUT since the auxs are split like that, since last night when I added = another TC m300 (LOVE IT, midi control, cheap, like 100 bucks on ebay) = then I cant use both auxs that way.....arrrgggg.....my brain is about to = blow up figuring this out. But each chanell has an insert point, but if = I put a reverb on there for example, then I lose my "on/off" of setting = the aux to pre and post which acts like an on off = switch,,,,,,
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Anyway that little behringer is nice, = they are just a bit noisy, I have a couple of different = ones.
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Kevin mentioned getting from one = section to another on the lp1 as a bit of a challenge, but I am working = now with my Novation control surface on that, it is really cool to set = the faders to control the LP1 tracks, and then I have a set of eight = buttons that alternate between play and stop, so if I cut the first = three tracks for example to section A of a song, then track the next = section on the next three, then with the push of a button or foot switch = I can turn off section A or B..........now I dont have this down yet, = but it is possible, I am doing it.  Programming the LP1 and = Novation so that with a foot button control I can say to the LP1 "mute = that last track, and start recording a new one" you know, ya'll probably = all have all that down anyway, I am just a hillbilly here in a log cabin = in North Carolina, 18 miles from the grocery store, and so looping, I = dont have to wait for anyone to come over and jam!!!!
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C9A0C3.1F0A20FA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 14:43:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FBA33BE87; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:43:28 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.85 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <5Ie8ZD.A.vOE.SsStJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:43:30 +0000 (UTC) > Per wrote: > MainStage doesn't forward any midi input to plug-ins on a bus. So you can't control Superlooper or Augustus using a mfc when it's runnin= g as AU plugin on a Mainstage bus? I'm sure I have done that, but it coul= d be that I have used it as insert effect on an instrument channel. Does = that differ, so insert FX vs a bus? I'm going to check this again, it's e= ssential that I understand how it really works :) --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 15:07:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60BBA3BE82; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Jf5DsKp67fw89zt4S8gboIH1XRClwQQ3mV6pPMGHEQg=; b=CeTKZ6dA5kN00YVPLZ8NPX9X3s+xxARR/BDs/DhVvTBO5HQbCtc/I1BbByDCkHYfL0 hCkCldUuDyzNgCkyUVSXPtvioPeOaHC/d6hahz66r+9PG/fzSRffCZzOWwxzC7sG9FsP 1TGSga4Bq7+IygpTcI84OBZ4kL/f5dcfM9Fec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XDOy5MireytZGz0ueo4axWzmUs2E0nq4qzX2Dows2X2tZ2uN1mouS09RwjyLgrDciy iisQ7GYlgz7rp31RPUxW4LGOhxRxArg6Jp3rxtbpuVqkJH/B4e6Dzyb4/hV2qqbOpgL/ mIXaPmPgQpibZh0JOsyjxPUWqTmjTAZ6mePWc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:07:09 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903090807y5a4a00bfl87000ead32dfe4eb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:07:10 +0000 (UTC) >> Per wrote: >> MainStage doesn't forward any midi input to plug-ins on a bus. > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Sjaak wrote: > So you can't control Superlooper or Augustus using a mfc when it's running > as AU plugin on a Mainstage bus? Of course you can, just not by direct external MIDI input into the plug-in. The ways to do it are two: 1) The usual MainStage (and Logic) way: Use the host applications interface for external control. In MainStage it works like this: You create Screen Control Objects that represent you outboard MIDI control surfaces (mixer, FCB1010, expression pedals etc etc). You assign these Screen Control Objects to the appropriate MIDI event sent in by the external gear. Finally you bind the Screen Control Objects to parameters in plug-ins. Here there is no restriction in where a plug-in is placed. But for a Looper, that you may want to use for catching audio from many different sound patches, it is better to place it on a bus, which means "at the Concert level" in MainStage's terminology (as in "global" rather than "patch dependent"). The good side of MainStage's solution is that you always keep your own laptop rig on screen, as displayed and routed by those Screen Control Objects. This makes it easy to switch your external (physical) gear because you only need to either send the same old MIDI events or "MIDI learn" new external control events. All the rest, the actual looping and processing engine is still kept intact within MainStage. 2) Address a physical MIDI In port directly from inside the plug-in on the bus. Mobius can do this (as I referred to in my last post) but Augustus Loop can not. The Bidule AU plug-in can do it as well (but I've had crashes when trying that out and I have no extra time right now to put into beta testing for Plogue) > Does that differ, so insert FX vs a bus? I'm going to check > this again, it's essential that I understand how it really works :) Many things differ between these two ways to use a plug-in. One difference is the direct external MIDI input into the plug-in, that works with plug-ins opened on Instrument Channel Strips (usually virtual instruments; synth or sampler). Another important difference between a plug-in on an Audio- or Instrument Channel Strip and one on a bus or a main output is that a plug-in on a bus or output is globally available at the Concert level and can be used with any patch withing the concert. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 15:12:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82A7A3BE86; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:12:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=57qnlqTkCnuhckOwTJDds2mBiaE4/G0Mwh7aqhv+39w=; b=qPvi7pZo9XVkr2B+lUnEHpumyXBZpnGKIiAW8XEk71a0i3um0xjCbLRohinC6/3P4G sm733d3LrEwghGvKDulfKkQS9woNl8pQVjaAdz+2ZsIPkb8+dI00gUbhtenoVt01P/hY sVUhBfzqoIWwfwFDPH3X3Qq327EqJTVA57nps= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=urCHdUYpYs9aKbFrITCW5BTgBuFXuNxpfcjU/Iz2oCTGu3A0kqvgFzgVfIeFcsnNLi g4H6bqxe4fPf18SA1I4nAQXzjWxC1naYDuVADfGSo5xS0esehxLaFOdSl07DW3JVCc2y DGVMe8mqJUYlrFzabmW0GSY7jMcDRfJTNop9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:12:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Rain From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:12:35 +0000 (UTC) This little nugget popped up in my MP3 player today. Strangely coinciding with a lovely spring rain storm. http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Rain.mp3 Me on guitar, synth, delay/looper fx knob twiddling. My brother Dan on bass. Enjoy, -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 15:23:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 133123BE7F; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B53480.6010004@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:23:44 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring References: <08DD0F3A-E30C-4D40-AB2C-EE977270CF5E@arcor.de> <66f9cc1e0903081557i1ef7076dh25e2a41f12859c96@mail.gmail.com> <49B4902D.2020206@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Sorry, I was asking if there was a limit (or rather, an actual weighing process) for carry-on bags. I run up against the checked baggage limit all the time! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> And have I just been unaware of scales at check-in for carry-on stuff? Is >> that happening in Europe but not the States as yet? I've definitely had more >> than 10 kg before. >> > > Size and weight limits on US flights. 50lb or less or there's a big > charge - $100 instead of just the regular bag charge - $15 for the > first, $25 for additional. At $100 a bag, it's cheaper to book a seat > for your luggage. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 15:37:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58AC43BE82; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236613053; bh=dDP3GPg+obKmYHUNP6ruMD5xxOTVLD5MHqjskPdxQHk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rh5k8KsE1zWzm1tingHNnrgmzq9HCERqBpIiX9/MZsS36bjsYqaPJGyCdnRCH2fIpW7Gdpgswb6ZHpiwNBfaVKMJIaFGtJQcgto+nqjJ8BOr2AR9PONJlfBJrAHheMP+eFfK7ju+6Pki0gwV0eTQz6Tn3dioIvos7zt8iAFLTjI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TVamqaQshvv1MQ8/JGY/4dArNBpyFFw296YtO2HIBrmmIMADStqjL0F03dmo5oWtjjGO6HhgEbBa24MAU7/Tx8VLe6ApvIWxa/YRstmsIir7GV+qQFEQwwBJRrABJrpieSnVazXtvVwRfJuV/g3AwQ3cn8aNdES1gdSYw64MniQ=; Message-ID: <447921.28942.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 63Sjzt8VM1nv9_pjsJR7Rf6b2sdsmdclJmSvkJtYJc3OpzZxdSAU2ArzUARqDrZPIdOC4PwKgS_roxLq1cLMKQyJc.S6AyKuevA8UKSrAiD145M2ydJT9PaJ07SoG89nyN8X5k9JCxTG3USNtv4IZN6oPrhsasDuF4GbOfw6ezeFPY4qBFGDsm_Q8us9L4kCXQyFjvll3Q7zp7U3xnpr2ETTXSD8_eNA6VrFT06m7Ron X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:37:33 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: wanted: suggestion for loop post processor (re: lex mpx100) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1329496207-1236613053=:28942" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:37:34 +0000 (UTC) --0-1329496207-1236613053=:28942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii just wanted to chime in on my 2 cents on the lexicon mpx100- i bought mine back in like '01 when i read that bill frisell used one in his home studio, saw that they were 199$ at the time, bought it. worked for about 2-3 yrs or so, then MINE DIED!!!! i sent it in to Lexicon to have it fixed (something w/ the inputs couldn't take big overloads or something-i'd read they have a low headroom), just didn't trust it after that, so sold it. over the next few yrs i missed the things it could do (reverbs, pitch shift, delays,etc). so last fall, decided to look for something to replace my old mpx100, b/c i did like the reverbs so much. found a newer lexicon mx200 online for 100$, couldn't pass it up. it's been working great (knock on wood or whatever). it seems to be a nice up date on the mpx100, it also has hook up to computer and use that editing stuff, but i just use it as stand alone unit. but it is funny i've read a few other reviews recently that bill frisell still uses his (i think), and there was another big studio guitar player (can't remember his name), that he used an mpx100 in his rack also. so i guess for the big players, it still keeps on ticking. mine shot craps. oh well. but i do like the mx200. my 2 cents, s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en --0-1329496207-1236613053=:28942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
just wanted to chime in on my 2 cents on the lexicon mpx100-
i bought mine back in like '01 when i read that bill frisell used one in his home studio, saw that they were 199$ at the time, bought it. worked for about 2-3 yrs or so, then MINE DIED!!!!
i sent it in to Lexicon to have it fixed (something w/ the inputs couldn't take big overloads or something-i'd read they have a low headroom), just didn't trust it after that, so sold it.
over the next few yrs i missed the things it could do (reverbs, pitch shift, delays,etc).
so last fall, decided to look for something to replace my old mpx100, b/c i did like the reverbs so much.
found a newer lexicon mx200 online for 100$, couldn't pass it up. it's been working great (knock on wood or whatever). it seems to be a nice up date on the mpx100, it also has hook up to computer and use that editing stuff, but i just use it as stand alone unit.

but it is funny i've read a few other reviews recently that bill frisell still uses his (i think), and there was another big studio guitar player (can't remember his name), that he used an mpx100 in his rack also. so i guess for the big players, it still keeps on ticking. mine shot craps. oh well. but i do like the mx200.
my 2 cents, s---

www.myspace.com/scotthansen
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en

--0-1329496207-1236613053=:28942-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 15:40:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CA733BE87; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GGXZSKvqAPqnjyPw7F+KE49TQ5ToPAyY+pweCZOtEFg=; b=JpNqp0lRLpj9M4MxaWXVlTw8iLsDQ449QCMzung94RvbbtBzKj2tXMsaARCpGw6BF6 F6TXiv5Qjkgvw6ShkQnCKRmFx61tVp1z/UqNeMj0ZJsXHK8utJHni5wJzkoX+haksAx3 kDY+BMblqD4qHpbXWTb7X7WYkm4fQ/gmRamMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U1VLYFtT7Ztx9q0auedMbG56Nr2aWNDN+xLB7eyc23VeFzxMTLUl18HvrPW5K2Xbmt oPhVeCB2btXlK6UhiuPJinqbY3Y8fBsbAqrIT+WZDAVjlhzCIJT70MLkzkfgltuQMK3Q jQW7gWZPsp/bHcaNV+7FpBjHObTYHCrjFGlHw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B53480.6010004@mhorse.com> References: <08DD0F3A-E30C-4D40-AB2C-EE977270CF5E@arcor.de> <66f9cc1e0903081557i1ef7076dh25e2a41f12859c96@mail.gmail.com> <49B4902D.2020206@mhorse.com> <49B53480.6010004@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:35:44 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Yes, there is size and weight limit for carryon, but I've never seen carryon weighed. USAir was 40 lbs. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Sorry, I was asking if there was a limit (or rather, an actual weighing > process) for carry-on bags. I run up against the checked baggage limit al= l > the time! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > >>> And have I just been unaware of scales at check-in for carry-on stuff? = Is >>> that happening in Europe but not the States as yet? I've definitely had >>> more >>> than 10 kg before. >>> >> >> Size and weight limits on US flights. =A050lb or less or there's a big >> charge - $100 instead of just the regular bag charge - $15 for the >> first, $25 for additional. =A0At $100 a bag, it's cheaper to book a seat >> for your luggage. > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 15:56:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2392A3BE85; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:56:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:56:26 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:56:28 +0000 (UTC) > Per wrote: > Of course you can, just not by direct external MIDI input into the > plug-in. Ok, I got the point, thanks! :) > The ways to do it are two: > 1) The usual MainStage (and Logic) way: That's how I do it now. All the midi inputs are merged into 1 stream and = that's going into Mainstage. Works good, and I particular like the screen= controls for any for external hardware. I also noticed that Mainstage lo= ads all patches incl. bus effects as soon as you open the concert. The only thing I haven't found a solution for is that you can't assign a = midi controller to the "current patch" to control volume, but only to a s= pecific patch number, bus, output or master channel. For example, when us= ing the master channel, you also lower the volume of a delay or looper si= tting on a bus and I want to keep it going. > 2) Address a physical MIDI In port directly from inside the plug-in on > the bus. Mobius can do this (as I referred to in my last post) but > Augustus Loop can not. The Bidule AU plug-in can do it as well (but > I've had crashes when trying that out and I have no extra time right > now to put into beta testing for Plogue) I don't know if I have the time to test Bidule as AU-plugin on a Mainstag= e bus but I'll let you know. As always, thanks for your clear explanation= --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 16:14:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 392743BE80; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=J0UmA4SV/bx3qd1nuwm8N5ALE4MJZM/LYBU5EQDz1GU=; b=nZZkVBIgDbiALM/sJOPJmiZe12YsJTot3d4zMLZcyeOm90Y4xGyLZMIq0dfpuNsjcv OAlPOqG5jIwLcSetYmBXcyo8t3E0fCuJmXSBlGPpp5GFxIz81JDY5PpZZLCbzUOmz6LK f2r/oTFdM11uGFxmRTwz0OTXbRN5KacvNAIXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=uS+Zb/1Xa3HK4tiYz6sqdhlI/CSGjw8BgV1phPgJhFs3Daz3f86p13K4nRs1EkuSKi tGsEQ1XbVtQGY4hzwQI9ocb4ATV3OnloNzz4zg2Qh0CaWas871O2KezwLUZqNZZ4SlP0 a96Alu+NVeC+A5dEFcVfr1BHaV4zJMyLQ+z+0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:14:41 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903090914v7d23187buf321c4cdd944f36b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:14:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:56 PM, Sjaak wrote: > The only thing I haven't found a solution for is that you can't assign a = midi controller to the "current patch" to control volume, but only to a spe= cific patch number, bus, output or master channel. For example, when using = the master channel, you also lower the volume of a delay or looper sitting = on a bus and I want to keep it going. Right. There's no such generic "patch level down" function to be assigned to an external MIDI event. Here are two other solutions I use: 1) As the first plug-in (the top slot) in every patch/channel strip use the Gain plug-in (found under "Utility"). In Layout Mode, drag a Knob or Fader (or whatever Screen Control Object) into the work space and assign it to the external MIDI event you want to use for "patch level pre effects". In Edit Mode, assign this Screen Control Object to the Gain plug-ins parameter "Gain". In the Sceen Control Inspector adjust the scaling so it goes from -96.0 dB to 0.0 dB. Done! Now all the rest of the effects you may add to that Channel Strip will be post fade and you won't cut off any reverb or delay tails when playing "swell pedal" with the input. And you will still have the proper sound level running in the virtual instrument, if that's what you are playing. 2) In order to make it quick and easy to create a new patch that uses the same Screen Control Bindings do like this: Select the patch i the Patch List, press Apple-C, press Apple-V. Done! You have now duplicated the patch including all the bindings. Go ahead changing input, virtual instrument and effects to build a new patch. Be sure to save the Channel Strip under a new name (if you do back-up Channel Strips on the disc; that's a good habbit BTW, as you may then import them into MainStage as well as Logic i any future project or session). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 17:08:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D53D13BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 13:08:22 EDT Subject: Re: Nuggets of Wisdom for Loop Touring To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c41.545013aa.36e6a706_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 17:08:58 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c41.545013aa.36e6a706_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit what a timely discussion!.....my wonderful nephew, fabio, has invited me to come to his june show in rome.....being on a fixed budget, read poor, i need to strech every penny.....i have been to europe only once, the zurich loopfest a few years ago, what WONDERFUL memories!.....so i would love to join fabio in rome, but due to time constraints, fabio still works, can you belive it!.....:).....i could only spend a few days before and after the gig in rome.....i can't justify the expense of flying to europe for just a week.....add to this the fact that i am a hardcore agorophobic/zenophobic, i never leave my studio and i fear aliens, people from the suburbs of pittsburgh scare the shit out of me.....the zurich trip was kool due to the fact that the WALKER BROS took me under their collective wings and protected me.....if i hadn't flown over with rickeeee, i would probably still be in some corner of the zurich airport freakin out, these people arn't big and fat, this can't still be pittsburgh toto!.....and young bill kept me in check and on the path of "right thinking" for the time after the fest, only two 6 packs of HURLEYMANN (sp) beer a day.....not to mention our most xcellent host BERNHARD, a prince.....andy, pita, per, mathias, all helped make this a fantastic adventure.....SO!.....i got the time albeit the $.....i would like to spend more than a week on this trip and see more of europe and, more importantly, spend time with my EUROLOOPKINDERN.....the LOOPBUS is a great idea!!!!! sign me up but if that doesn't happen what else can an old krazy looper do?.....GOT FLOOR?.....i'm just fishing for ideas at this point, prior to commiting to fabio's fest, i'm just looking at what other options are out there.....if there are other "fests" planned, i do not need nor desire to play at them but i sure would love to be an "audient".....who knows what the future may hold, the times are way wacky and this may be the time to bust a groove.....thanks for your cornsideration.....michael "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Worried about job security? Check out the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job-industries?ncid=emlcntuscare00000002) --part1_c41.545013aa.36e6a706_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable what a timely discussion!.....my wonder= ful nephew, fabio, has invited me to come to his june show in rome.....being= on a fixed budget, read poor, i need to strech every penny.....i have been=20= to europe only once, the zurich loopfest a few years ago, what WONDERFUL mem= ories!.....so i would love to join fabio in rome, but due to time constraint= s, fabio still works, can you belive it!.....:).....i could only spend a few= days before and after the gig in rome.....i can't justify the expense of fl= ying to europe for just a week.....add to this the fact that i am a hardcore= agorophobic/zenophobic, i never leave my studio and i fear aliens, people f= rom the suburbs of pittsburgh scare the shit out of me.....the zurich trip w= as kool due to the fact that the WALKER BROS took me under their collective=20= wings and  protected me.....if i hadn't flown over with rickeeee, i wo= uld probably still be in some corner of the zurich airport freakin out, thes= e people arn't big and fat, this can't still be pittsburgh toto!.....and you= ng bill kept me in check and on the path of "right thinking" for the time af= ter the fest, only two 6 packs of HURLEYMANN (sp) beer a day.....not to ment= ion our most xcellent host BERNHARD, a prince.....andy, pita, per, mathias,=20= all helped make this a fantastic adventure.....SO!.....i got the time albeit= the $.....i would like to spend more than a week on this trip and see more=20= of europe and, more importantly, spend time with my EUROLOOPKINDERN.....the=20= LOOPBUS is a great idea!!!!! sign me up but if that doesn't happen what else= can an old krazy looper do?.....GOT FLOOR?.....i'm just fishing for ideas a= t this point, prior to commiting to fabio's fest, i'm just looking at what o= ther options are out there.....if there are other "fests" planned, i do not=20= need nor desire to play at them but i sure would love to be an "audient"....= .who knows what the future may hold, the times are way wacky and this may be= the time to bust a groove.....thanks for your cornsideration.....michael


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Worried about job security? Check ou= t the 5 safest jobs in a recession. (http://jobs.aol.com/gallery/growing-job= -industries?ncid=3Demlcntuscare00000002) --part1_c41.545013aa.36e6a706_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 18:12:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEBBF3BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1236622365; bh=UYlEdlTGh3Qv8m5rfFxUWyhxjl3OyKHfb41SxmY/AmI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bxeeEEozCrL3ykuRi323pLEFi837EsSB2iK59OdkxrC+va0mut/WivKGj+E33zxaAUpmNOwvq1EY1JIwUhKPudzQAKElg9nVHBG4dnqz9xieHZgePrU/dn6gl+WtS5Ni8GcZYd9kH7gzZk3SQLLxCi8MopVk2qpQTw3/KDVjt30= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2mp+3rZJfaMJdbjFseCyxqt8j9phG49cpMRdW87JJGDDRsCf1sjQsUQgDbIceQGwYMNGPWSIzo92AQX2MxrVxWzwW+MMlZmypz5PtfSRbLgBu8GKXcKZZIEpt/FLOlLTYIcbCe44+XEJ2csuwNO6R4JXl0P7pnmO/0KwopWwMF4=; Message-ID: <734436.72525.qm@web26407.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9lc0eAgVM1k.hCJBvCRhWKXCqSi9zRco5fcFVBelVeoQAnR6ZccCjEYN_F6BZfipaduk88iqVVfwltqSE0rRPEWgHdfTqYq6zk8YuXVxarwtlRUXXdn6d2b3_A3nuzUOqU1uLRpF4bx0ulDoqvAKmddoySMqSlj8dZtaD47liBDx1nA5PHXOzZPTj.wc5A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:12:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Rhod Evans Subject: Loopy blues examples To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-712501674-1236622365=:72525" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-712501674-1236622365=:72525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all - this is a great active and friendly forum! Plenty of posts, which= is excellent - even if most of what you write goes straight over the top o= f my head at the moment :)=0A=0AAre there any good examples of sound/video = on the web of anyone doing gutsy or jazzy blues with guitar & vocals using = loopers? =0A=0AThanks=0A=0A=0A --0-712501674-1236622365=:72525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all - this is a great active and friendly forum!  Plenty of= posts, which is excellent - even if most of what you write goes straight o= ver the top of my head at the moment :)

Are there any good examples = of sound/video on the web of anyone doing gutsy or jazzy blues with guitar = & vocals using loopers?

Thanks



= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-712501674-1236622365=:72525-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 18:33:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5166C3BE80; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QtD5zc3CKzUsMLfUl33kmGi01Ak4VyUux3IXI0DPA+A=; b=iGAfbnB+rijwhN97eRw3KYUmR/vbs2xxyQNRXPzTvD1gdxOECOrBbrGeEtduAszWH/ PoyIy2LEJPoPfNRICSXQJeuBmCRC02qanoM1xNoQ8X3gxK8NbqEgC5lVzlh3BTO34Su6 yCdJ3iHOoCtrqVAZi8P/oxuC7m0NFoXiluM60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=FkZxnPRsm1/RHOzfzgvS6UOb7fWIDaLm9RmBJAok5ZYA54gIIZQH0dQlRPjIi6FFDU vi9hm/+Rn1ZxNYrwNOvm/IPtTNzMhU5qgmMJSw0toS9awmJLrVevO1d2v8CxOnk4TGtM mEsFwa6Q03ivM76xzni6dU6A7o2BEOHObkgLg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:32:58 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5eaf549b9bc31ac9 Message-ID: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:33:01 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak, no, i don't need multiple clock streams. all i want to do is to have the first loop send midi clocks that the daw uses to set tempos for delay-time synching, triggering midi drum patterns and arpeggiator rates. i only need 1 clock stream, but it has to come from the looper. somehow, per does this wo crashing mainstage, but i've not been able to get ms to play nice at all. On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sjaak wrote: >>Warren wrote: >> Well, Sjaak, that's my point - i *need* those clock outs! why >> Mainstage can't have a simple control panel to tell it which midi >> inputs to ignore, like Live has, is just bad interface design > > Warren, I'm trying to understand how you want to use your setup. So you u= se multiple devices sending midi clock data (merged, so they don't influenc= e each other) and you want to filter these in Mainstage on patch level? And= use one of you devices as midi tempo source? In the past, I used a Miditem= p router to do this kind of filtering before sending the data to the midi i= nput's of any device. But I'm afraid you can't do that with MS. > > I'm wondering if you can install the OSX version of Midi-Ox which sits be= tween the midi-in port and the midi applications and allows you to do exact= ly that. > > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw > > > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 18:50:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2F4F3BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SorfUkvXM6d+lPEUpmAzXsl/YFWuMgFpTApZwIWXxYI=; b=C9eg5rQCK9Jy11EhnDRqr+gQFC5uRenFvjEvf7RbvknzhrXlSn0CZwbd3CYGzfbvGZ b1vvceL89ljwa7Tzlo8AmX8HsBTKIP1vgydR0dBkZ1OWrdfFYJ0h2315EGO54VJQXxEZ cNSZoSmxm11Ze1UAIVeiNIy3AfrLWkHeW1PUI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PQcftsx6K3Anjp41tWdEmKGkf1fQ/8hWHBasGhZ+HcWnJD6YZXKXWRVWpAzYBZFIvg gcMxoAv7i5JGjszNTUiubxkZ4LVBodYeMhy56eHWU1JzyAtWQZni8jo7+qhHIGdOyB4d 4+Fcw0JPFiicW9GFN0gUI1SGgcA5nvNYqg29s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:50:50 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:50:50 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > all i want to do is to have > the first loop send midi clocks that the daw uses to set tempos for > delay-time synching, triggering midi drum patterns and arpeggiator > rates. i only need 1 clock stream, but it has to come from the looper. > somehow, per does this wo crashing mainstage, but i've not been able > to get ms to play nice at all. Hi Warren, I don't remember what looper plug-in you are using, but set it to output its MIDI Clock to the OS X Iac bus. Then set both MainStage and Live to slave sync to IAC Bus input. Over here that works well, even though I have not tried running both Live and MainStage at the same time. Another concept would be to use Live's Looper as the the tempo setting device. I'm not sure if that's what you are doing, but if you do it means Live is the master for MainStage. You should still set Live to send out MIDI Clock through an IAC bus in order to have MainStage following the tempo (set that by checking the box "Get tempo from MIDI input" in the Concert Inspector window as you have selected the concert level at top of the Patch List) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 18:56:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE8373BE81; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Imx2U1SZ0fSTFsLEeGFuvf+JOAngnxtbqjO/av0XMJ8=; b=q4AYppnvc8TcpCgjQouJc9eSZJ3rBYh9CVbMXlRtRA1MRtGA7aBwG+Hk2gZHIcySHI Y5TKmGwkEo20JXOpC9ySA1Rl49Byv/I6b/ECUXV+VOLLoOepMZSyu1JMt8CnJ4PVHWcb TkKbxqw1LUkVz6lOYAC7NHoNpVgUtsfFm5aLk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oHk//khSzpKChxUJR3Mb74IMUfX1YHA6MSywOuupPSmK+JyHQ6slSHhhMIOjp5kVWf lXaweaR3aJMBYklQFlYiRJ4UjLT5fFcyZXJckxGnKPUEnVCK8ZJsbKwAjIzNXrOBRKW9 qmeksP4SzRUU5JyVWHBv7hJ4TfS8nbRW6JpV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:56:41 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d14b89cdf4581066 Message-ID: <101191640903091156t6d98074kff5ed211db6e3633@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, Thanks for answering - there are a couple of things getting confused. I am *successfully* using the Live Looper to set the tempo for both Live and MS. I was unable to get an AU within MS - either SooperLooper or Mobius, tried both - to send clocks that didn't crash MS, although i don't think i tried to *explicitly* send the clock output to the IAC bus (which you can do with Mobius but not SL, i believe). I found that I was able to run SL within MS for a while, but as soon as i opened max and an "rtin" object, MS crashed. every time. i may go back and try the explicit clock output mapping from Mobius. Warren On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> all i want to do is to have >> the first loop send midi clocks that the daw uses to set tempos for >> delay-time synching, triggering midi drum patterns and arpeggiator >> rates. i only need 1 clock stream, but it has to come from the looper. >> somehow, per does this wo crashing mainstage, but i've not been able >> to get ms to play nice at all. > > > Hi Warren, > > I don't remember what looper plug-in you are using, but set it to > output its MIDI Clock to the OS X Iac bus. Then set both MainStage and > Live to slave sync to IAC Bus input. > > Over here that works well, even though I have not tried running both > Live and MainStage at the same time. > > Another concept would be to use Live's Looper as the the tempo setting > device. I'm not sure if that's what you are doing, but if you do it > means Live is the master for MainStage. You should still set Live to > send out MIDI Clock through an IAC bus in order to have MainStage > following the tempo (set that by checking the box "Get tempo from MIDI > input" in the Concert Inspector window as you have selected the > concert level at top of the Patch List) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 18:57:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 706083BE80; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=K4ir9Kt4X/xbJtv863oHsw8Y3iIh8Gmn3a2h+o3BNFW/lvquWbNCMILDoUhYB2CU/+f6u6YSvC3OkVWuusz3h31URcFsdR3S40TPgmY6I2GvLXgenIov2QKGVtqk+qVz; Message-ID: <20090309135733.qam3ovsc8w8cc40o@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 13:57:33 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <49B3A8B1.5090200@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B3A8B1.5090200@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Rick Walker : > > It is so fucking refreshing to read that someone admits to not > understanding imepedance. > You can think of impedance as "a/c resistance". (I know this is =20 simplistic way to look at it.) Since impedance applies to a/c current (and not d/c), the attenuation =20 of a/c varies with the frequency. For those of us who are not electronic experts, the way to look at it =20 is that a high-impedance device doesn't hog as much power as a =20 low-impedance device. For example, if you have an amplifier that can drive a load as low as =20 2ohms, you could connect one speaker with 2ohms impedance or connect =20 (in parallel) four speakers of 8 ohms each without shorting out the =20 amplifier. The impedance becomes a factor when you split your signal with a =20 y-adapter. If the input devices are high-impedance, then you won't =20 likely have a problem driving both devices from a single output. If =20 (for the sake of argument), the devices are low-impedance, then they =20 may draw too much current from the output device. One example of this would be to split a (analog) gate signal to =20 multiple synthesizer modules. If the gate is split to enough modules, =20 then some of them will fail to "fire" due to the reduced gate signal. Thus, you can alway go from a low impedance output to a high impedance =20 input -- however the opposite (high to low) would be somewhat =20 analagous to shorting out the output device (not enough load =3D too =20 much current drain). The closest analogy in everyday life would be to overload a circuit. =20 For example, not a good idea to power an electric space heater from a =20 car-battery inverter (because the space heater demands more current =20 than the inverter can handle at its output). > > I've never fully understood MIDI. I am Solder-phobic, have never > fully understood signal flow as it effects > gain structure and I can't program. > Ah, the sweet smell of solder. :) > > I feel like such a dolt so much of the time. > I often feel that way -- and I remind myself that everyone, at one =20 time or another, feels that way. > > It's nice to hear that someone else feels this way. > I feel so less lonely because you admitted it, Mark. > As musicians and performers we put ourselves "on the line" all the =20 time. It is easy to feel vulnerable. We risk some vulnerability in =20 order to play music that communicates. (Kind of hard to put this into =20 words.) > > Thanks, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 19:30:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65A7D3BE81; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=avRphWKkW3dTBxsk0IQW6h9MtzizjKI5WGTisxTeO88=; b=DrRbwbHFRxiST9DVhZIEhlcBJ/VKcxdZ3lqxkyZma8uWWoxCXNTBvKaY1D47ae5ryD 0oyR60Q96vlfSLMVDktHCT0GwvECdc4P3Wxljd3nXF9C42FSYox0QnP8wOPO2dX2UZ+8 rAwEoCRXkvy5Rh8HC7KYaP1jvLSARWC9RHymg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tTsd/MncEjd0QXc7QJVhsE6oc7h3xww8+rBatBDKyDBvF8qZXkXylF3eJSSF6NZfa0 3mWvcO6PL106H/NWbNe8dAYnXmuhUK9aXFg8klnhozMOS4uAh2drBRqbOspyF/fdtVS8 Fo7a0BCnWtgEkS5Zas2GXgg45QaHSCVxvzJNg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <333287c30903091230p68add715y6b1c2cce59ae7f75@mail.gmail.com> References: <265501.89268.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <333287c30903091230p68add715y6b1c2cce59ae7f75@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 11:30:52 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903091230u5fceb066k7f450afc8531c03a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: choosing between these soundcards for laptop From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22f282a46c80464b4ac81 Resent-Message-ID: <03pT3C.A.cAG.t5WtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:30:53 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd22f282a46c80464b4ac81 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don't know about the Echo, Edirol does the job, quality (sound and physical construction/design) isn't as good as MOTU or the preference of mine you left out: the Mackie Onyx 400F. Picked mine up brand new a couple years ago for under 500$. Firewire. 10 in and out. 4 solid nice sounding preamps with volume knobs. Inserts, phantom power and more. Rack card. Physically solid, driver is solid, never has crashed or fucked up on me at all. Also works as a normal mixer (although you have to do your routing via the software mixer, then it saves the last setting when you disconnect it, internally of course so that it can function without being hooked up to a computer). I'm always curious why I don't hear folks talking about this piece of gear on this list, as I've never had any problem with it (it did have driver issues after first coming out that resulted in a lot of complaints, but Mackie fixed those long before I got mine, and folks aren't complaining any more!) -nn happyhumans.org On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:30 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi gang, > I need your advice on this one my Firebox has crapped out and is going to > thake a while to get repaired since i have to send it to the states. > So i am on the hunt for another more reliable one,between the 300 to 600 > price range which one would you choose between these? it needs to be bus > powered,ins and outs should be assignable,drivers should be stable,good > sounding preamps and most of all reliable.Please tell me your experiences > with them! > > EDIROL FA-66 > MOTU Ultralite MK 3 > ECHO AUDIOFIRE 4 > > thanx for your advice > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > --000e0cd22f282a46c80464b4ac81 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don't know about the Echo, Edirol does t= he job, quality (sound and physical construction/design) isn't as good = as MOTU or the preference of mine you left out:

the Mackie Onyx 400F= .

Picked mine up brand new a couple years ago for under 500$.=A0 Firewire= .=A0 10 in and out.=A0 4 solid nice sounding preamps with volume knobs.=A0 = Inserts, phantom power and more.=A0 Rack card.=A0 Physically solid, driver = is solid, never has crashed or fucked up on me at all.=A0 Also works as a n= ormal mixer (although you have to do your routing via the software mixer, t= hen it saves the last setting when you disconnect it, internally of course = so that it can function without being hooked up to a computer).

I'm always curious why I don't hear folks talking about this pi= ece of gear on this list, as I've never had any problem with it (it did= have driver issues after first coming out that resulted in a lot of compla= ints, but Mackie fixed those long before I got mine, and folks aren't c= omplaining any more!)

-nn
happyhumans= .org


On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:30 AM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com><= /span> wrote:

Hi gang,
I need your advice on this one my Firebox has crapped out and is going to t= hake a while to get repaired since i have to send it to the states.
So i am on the hunt for another more reliable one,between the 300 to 600 pr= ice range which one would you choose between these? it needs to be bus powe= red,ins and outs should be assignable,drivers should be stable,good soundin= g preamps and most of all reliable.Please tell me your experiences with the= m!

EDIROL FA-66
MOTU Ultralite MK 3
ECHO AUDIOFIRE 4

thanx for your advice
Luis



www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom






--000e0cd22f282a46c80464b4ac81-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 19:45:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2FF23BE81; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uu0l7FimhN6WHgCwZDtTIBXtAy/RKtieGfEqHrnPSFg=; b=rrUV4pm6WFs+jOquQePl4IF07UQVVMgYi7A4ZVmbgqzDF2TkJVrHZFnSik1+XMtt6I uTIbno7I1IzAipvyByniUsH+lwpIhUAdV6ezjMJPmHahcv5m2ze2a6Qp10833VGxtWXM FHfXTDeWKkNJFiRa8sGRDx7rvrQy54BCzYFDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UNwDfp+EysyHF0dQtvTMB89srkpaPpLD9OjadnWM7ltWsugih/wtRqfB3rcyAxsbgA JBHdq4LDH7083gI4tPxYu8DbEqjZR39P35mAvllK0/2UJj45Ub/Qj5ALsm4un4TQtkBe bN/+CirznSASnYPJQp51dEtGCABqJajMkqDeU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <333287c30903091230u5fceb066k7f450afc8531c03a@mail.gmail.com> References: <265501.89268.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <333287c30903091230p68add715y6b1c2cce59ae7f75@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903091230u5fceb066k7f450afc8531c03a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:45:07 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903091245w534ed13eqade7fe0697cebc30@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 19:45:07 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Nevyn Nowhere wrote: > the Mackie Onyx 400F. //// > I'm always curious why I don't hear folks talking about this piece of gear > on this list, Maybe folks are lazy, thinking the Onyx is too heavy? A muso friend has one. Nice all-round piece of gear. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 20:13:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A02693BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=m7c0o8yY59IFzZFC3C1PMe3t2Bte9p3EA5mQmcUvywwJ6tKc6A3dg1x8lQKfwQhJyyU8/Ot0K9S1tkylEma2H1bD7VZrvK1DCcBc0sBKFL3JFo01C4V9PyCOLasUk0PL; Message-ID: <20090309151333.64isfexig48g44ss@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:13:33 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE References: <9ab0c76f0903072356u559aa548p6fcc9b378005cc09@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903080407j5a584629p832e49354826ae74@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903080520n4c7c2d57yd97fb2778bcfa893@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903081315n570a8208x3caa77614556387d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903081503q42e6621cq9940018ccf11142a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903081503q42e6621cq9940018ccf11142a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: <8KuJ1B.A.lP.vhXtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Per Boysen : > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:15 PM, mark francombe > wrote: >> I dont think my effects are ACTUALLY phono level.. as in turntable >> level..(god you are right about the peater having a dedicated socket- blimey >> they chucked alot of useless stuff onto that machine...) > Actually, phono level is similar to mic level however there is a significant difference: phono inputs are equalized to the RIAA spec for records. Thus, a phono source (a turntable's cartrage) requires a phono preamp rather than a mic preamp. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 20:25:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 734D13BE7C; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=ocvAsviR5QLwkSMEI7NLnRdbPP/5UjZ631v9H5V/EIxpMp1U8SfG+c9GCr7n4dExQwdxQMbkWzXrc2QNYTU3nu5xvflV7UXBdLUmAYMz3nt4y8ZJiPMXJc3yyyRIKPky; Message-ID: <20090309152553.s51bmgmr9twkw0og@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 15:25:53 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #231 References: <20090308133137.1E1513BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Quoting samba - : > > Here's a discussion of Unity Gain and impedence > http://www.rane.com/note124.html > Thank you for posting this link. Excellent article. I have wanted to modify the Output and Power control module on my Aries synth to provide balanced outputs at +4dbv (to be compatible with the rest of my studio). Currently, I use an Ebtech Line Level Shifter to do the job however it is clutzy and I need the Line level shifter for other things at times. Now I need to find out where I can get a couple of those balanced differential output chips that are noted in the article. :) -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 20:47:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BB7C3BE82; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=574B07HR01sy/lE2bka1Da5PB/WQGYVXIuGsIR/yQYk=; b=WFXSAV7nBHlAPS9kZRu1MExnAG80NXljKkbiqJu6+y+ZN03DlMHU/FzT8wMY/BrIjj DUkPrnWJ28qYYtyg9T/gUA7UHqUcBZZbnyP5PjhtsuqvH42CSkxurIBBnXDrBjkICW2Z 704o2OddjuHafMhAa8XH1dl4/vCXQ2/oyRQ6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=DAtJxGU2aajLVHsMe+IiqpCYaPxHrcJI3nyysz2wWVKrA50pyrtbC9/GFhD4tztDe3 ZQa0pxzdN3sy4o6mKsYiDPn/0l2/cPGLj6jR7h2GeYUJxEVX2cPJinBaqh9IfUe4Hdc3 e9+JSleaFZzi6xbcz/1ht0BJWLXM/sl+u4TQg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090309135733.qam3ovsc8w8cc40o@mail.kevinkissinger.com> References: <49B3A8B1.5090200@cruzio.com> <20090309135733.qam3ovsc8w8cc40o@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:47:44 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5e4f1cb821f4e67c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903091347o3fb3f40es1986cd3090ae315b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: GAIN STRUCTURE From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cb580f072f0464b5bf57 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:47:45 +0000 (UTC) --00504502cb580f072f0464b5bf57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit BLIMEY.. this thread went on an on!!! Ive learnt so much actually!! funnily enough my problem (distortion and hiss) is probably much simpler than most envisage here. Yes I do have a Vortex... PRE-ceded by various stomps, they change with the ebbing tide and the phases of the moon. The Vortex stays, like a dusty old grandmother farting and spluttering in the far distant reaches of my rack. The sound at my mixer, of the guitar is fine... clean, and loud.. but the edps, that are in the aux send... and each go thru an effect to return to a chanel, are poor sounding... there is my probelm.. but I am now off to the studio (first few mins free for 5 days) to take the effects out of the chain and start from scratch.. m --00504502cb580f072f0464b5bf57 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
BLIMEY.. this thread went on an on!!! Ive learnt so much actually!!
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funnily enough my problem (distortion and hiss) is probably much simple= r than most envisage here.

Yes I do have a Vortex... PRE-ceded by va= rious stomps, they change with the ebbing tide and the phases of the moon. = The Vortex stays, like a dusty old grandmother farting and spluttering in t= he far distant reaches of my rack.

The sound at my mixer, of the guitar is fine... clean, and loud.. but t= he edps, that are in the aux send... and each go thru an effect to return t= o a chanel, are poor sounding... there is my probelm.. but I am now off to = the studio (first few mins free for 5 days) to take the effects out of the = chain and start from scratch..

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--00504502cb580f072f0464b5bf57-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 21:34:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77A4B3BE80; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hEpu/kEYvP9nClxOez03aOcip6Q5oWgqllZ33KPmK9k=; b=prSZwv/DhKVQ5s3YyY5xc8iRCHEAnbKFt9kcbqy9/6CYEAWHdK0ExpoPiOqoaSw4rh 8RmyqXvebcwjsolEdOdaRj1evhE5nL2ozW04G+w/t5CmA9z5FwgqfFXT9pIVLG9ihif0 jT9cYtPgx4li6zwmss7/NFtHfV/PPiyY50uk4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MqBYMy7oSPMIrb4j2GUJV9afRG2mpz2+e2IW31xtljohpEYo+HPulFlp+zjRUU5rD8 REx5JDHdQPHTHjccbm9iFfWUL5TIkFXS9rgxCXMuFez21/cRer5yZbAo3SqclcZpYWps fsMg7LFi97Oic0JFQhh3RXGt3OSERUEG5sRC0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <969227.39483.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <969227.39483.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:34:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Presonus problem From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:34:12 +0000 (UTC) I had something happen when I first got mine which may or may not be the same problem: Once I had drivers installed, it would work correctly for a certain amount of time - maybe 5 minutes, maybe an hour. Then suddenly, playback and recording on my music editing programs would stop working. To solve it, I went to Presonus's website and downloaded the latest drivers for the unit. That seemed to fix the problem. I still get issues occasionally: If I jiggle the firewire cable or look at it in a funny way, the unit's soothing blue light will turn into a dire red light, and it will stop working. Usually this is resolved by unplugging the unit, reconnecting the unit, rebooting the computer, bribery, or flagellating my arms wildly like an angry octopus. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:54 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi people, > for those of you using the Presonus Firebox: > I turned on my laptop with presonus conected and all of the sudden the so= undcard is not recognized and a solid red light stays on.Ive reie everythin= g,changed FW cables,reinstalled drivers,etc. but nothing.Is there a way to = internally reset it or has anybody had this problem? > thanx > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 21:44:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C06FE3BE81; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+jzlJJsWFU9BGS2+RIC3z3UVx8bVnQ4UbF9sVr2eNkI=; b=xE6mHx0efJP0Y09TzZCw9x3TWr8+7MwVci2BIJHcwzSNh9UtTf6up3gxm0siOsxACW q01s/DNfgUhg7MpWfaabNlTVW+5Oden/2xDGpHjt/YvuUUZfpmXRVmb2oQEwdNK5m6gK /WhS9hy1fhybNi0fuSHnr8D8ZtouDPuFJHQIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X7x6W79qJUgzNLtMAM398sCFva+EpjtJjqF2CVttiSr2EBYt+uCJ1/OOV8+rpHRnrN VxxoN06xDlUVcq8AAr4iJz58jgBSOaph+6Q75PQb0uzd+Pw7OxGvNCi7TZjgfJtifjI+ qczSHWjOHyhcHdwdk2DFW+oYc6j6h+Uj28MeM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B4A8B3.2060008@cruzio.com> References: <49B4A8B3.2060008@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:44:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: NUGGETS of WISDOM for LOOP TOURING From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd291ba8caca40464b689cc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 21:44:22 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd291ba8caca40464b689cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/01/news/international/usgas_price/?postversion=2008050109 It depends on what you mean by "subsidy". The US certainly doesn't have the sort of government price controls on gasoline that Mexico or Saudi have. Big companies get tax breaks everywhere, and oil companies are certainly large enough to take advantage of any loopholes regarding moving various offices to where they can get a better tax rate. Europe really does tax the hell out of gasoline compared to the US. It's a policy decision, and it works in tandem with the rest of their taxation system. Also, doing a direct USD-to-whatever comparison adds in the current relative strength of the currencies in question. TH On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > > Any Americans know the exact skinny on this subject? > I'm just talking from assumptions I"ve made all my life and the fact that > gas is so cheap here. > > --000e0cd291ba8caca40464b689cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/01/news/internationa= l/usgas_price/?postversion=3D2008050109


It = depends on what you mean by "subsidy". =A0The US certainly doesn&= #39;t have the sort of government price controls on gasoline that Mexico or= Saudi have. =A0Big companies get tax breaks everywhere, and oil companies = are certainly large enough to take advantage of any loopholes regarding mov= ing various offices to where they can get a better tax rate. =A0

Europe really does tax the hell out of gasoline compare= d to the US. =A0It's a policy decision, and it works in tandem with the= rest of their taxation system.

Also, doing a dire= ct USD-to-whatever comparison adds in the current relative strength of the = currencies in question.

TH

On Sun, Mar 8, 200= 9 at 10:27 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:



Any Americans know the exact skinny on this subject? =A0
I'm just talking from assumptions I"ve made all my life and the fa= ct that gas is so cheap here.

--000e0cd291ba8caca40464b689cc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 22:02:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A27FD3BE7F; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:02:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nVjJse8JaAQ/IWQ0qM0Ovmfs1qwYqQBHWhT8RZr2TeI=; b=cOZvOfg9KRDsgCgW92h7DA+M+ZSP5lOwub4ieqVT9MRRWQ+Snune1GMn+WfkMGF7CE SvzbAPdVWv0KcmX0FUQJ4s5ha4gpwjA+0yQDLxj7sy4wgKiRD1QcH8Hg/P3RkCuxj8XG CrXlYyMwO/OrWGoR4tG4s5YsLvAUBMOZA6PRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=pkixnSz1qvCkUhw8qBB5SZeYAPo1057oaGp4e+ehlXShlhJsWKuGNhaqbWAFt/FXJB x2/m3n7euOy8PELGhxBNdx74tlKgvNaARNnFnxWBBgVMIKeZIvq2l958Vi9pxHqIyYtp 4swCOSclue5qoZENVbGT4Dz5PpPSfs5Z0lbKM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:02:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: db8ee55f7ed48f68 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903091502i78af2920k79c20d6c48c7e62b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight , Andy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636ed643126523c0464b6c97a Resent-Message-ID: <7o21o.A.zrF.hHZtJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:02:09 +0000 (UTC) --001636ed643126523c0464b6c97a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Specifically directed at Andy and Mattias... but anyone else free to chip in.. So I just got my new EDP from Andy at straight Edge... and to be honest I think I have a turkey... but Ive been known to make a fool of myself before, not often but on occasion. I obviously am trying to Brother synch them. Now first I had a problem where the new edp would not come on IF Brother synch cable was connected... just Black Screen. THEN I found out that by switching on the old one first, waiting for boot up THEN switching on the new one, it would work (and had 1, yes ONE... happy evening brother looping (but a tad distorted and hissy, hence HUGE other thread)) BUT NOW... I cant get New EDP to come on at all (as long as Brother synch is connected) its ok stand alone... but I dont want that... do I? Now Andy assured me that he had run the unit thru soak (testing???) so its should be ok... is there something funny about using midi at the same time? Is this the usual "re-seat the ram" thing??? (Ive never had to do that with the old one - infact I always wondered why people said EDP was prone to trouble, cos mine never has been... just this funky new one) Is there any known bugs with Brother Synch? Whats wrong guys, or should I just send it back to Andy? Mark PS: Ive already waited a MONTH for this one, cos the courier company lost the first one... and StraightEdge sent me another one... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --001636ed643126523c0464b6c97a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Specifically directed at Andy and Mattias... but anyone else free to chip i= n..

So I just got my new EDP from Andy at straight Edge... and to be= honest I think I have a turkey... but Ive been known to make a fool of mys= elf before, not often but on occasion.
I obviously am trying to Brother synch them. Now first I had a problem wher= e the new edp would not come on IF Brother synch cable was connected... jus= t Black Screen. THEN I found out that by switching on the old one first, wa= iting for boot up THEN switching on the new one, it would work (and had 1, = yes ONE... happy evening brother looping (but a tad distorted and hissy, he= nce HUGE other thread)) BUT NOW... I cant get New EDP to come on at all (as= long as Brother synch is connected) its ok stand alone... but I dont want = that... do I?

Now Andy assured me that he had run the unit thru soak (testing???) so = its should be ok... is there something funny about using midi at the same t= ime? Is this the usual "re-seat the ram" thing??? (Ive never had = to do that with the old one - infact I always wondered why people said EDP = was prone to trouble, cos mine never has been... just this funky new one)
Is there any known bugs with Brother Synch?
Whats wrong guys, or sho= uld I just send it back to Andy?

Mark

PS: Ive already waited = a MONTH for this one, cos the courier company lost the first one... and Str= aightEdge sent me another one...

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--001636ed643126523c0464b6c97a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 22:04:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A6953BE81; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236636257; bh=BiEEgQjThz6q9g4cR9oyivLeQ1vqMwOjTrmOubQ8pfA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XtAgNhMfZ7WkqWI++1f36RafIZR6kCn4YNgR/38K1aCcTqMJzWOcdMuogJfn4g8S4NW3+Ex3k1nFHGevZ0rw8Jq3uqd2EvE2++KuZaMSBAqGo2Qtu7bMc93dWVhZPO6eNs9vGHCbOKBjT2F1tat7L5V8CrzKbLyvobm/oZWY5Qk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q1hdpdr6xVSAi3FP84KhRBJ/pjY1ikh46FuwSPA/+KSOsCenF+d8F/zekqlQn/bzJZNxoNDA6qI4Bcq90aDbiFNNrp1ytnQUF1uDLPz+eOPiVqGXs0zcScCMyxjGanC3EnBgODZ5W1zpMydE0g33ve1Ey695WyX4N2Oj2aOxl9g=; Message-ID: <974340.34025.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YDH.XPwVM1k6aW4AOecZDTJCPhUVHDz9HG975gIg41ATghl5NEgbxqz.ex_YU6_iQcrIUQ_aK2lSNzyZ3jORnJ9bIwe3YVMPyVToSNzakoKn_U3GYmAqbGl3t6t3qo9pGz.D0f2TlWMrJYWIRNC5Xzs4yf14wRLiGXk7HTyL6V8FlZRpBLSea1kgRNbiOVUwcV4kT7rnCOnS.NZ7hJwjCcscxeKkZ8m60cTJqIU- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:04:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Presonus problem To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:04:18 +0000 (UTC) oh man Matt this isnt good news dont wanna turn octopus man! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > From: Matt Davignon > Subject: Re: Presonus problem > To: "Loopers Delight" > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 2:34 PM > I had something happen when I first got mine which may or > may not be > the same problem: > Once I had drivers installed, it would work correctly for a > certain > amount of time - maybe 5 minutes, maybe an hour. Then > suddenly, > playback and recording on my music editing programs would > stop > working. > > To solve it, I went to Presonus's website and > downloaded the latest > drivers for the unit. That seemed to fix the problem. > > I still get issues occasionally: If I jiggle the firewire > cable or > look at it in a funny way, the unit's soothing blue > light will turn > into a dire red light, and it will stop working. Usually > this is > resolved by unplugging the unit, reconnecting the unit, > rebooting the > computer, bribery, or flagellating my arms wildly like an > angry > octopus. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 9:54 AM, L.Angulo > wrote: > > > > Hi people, > > for those of you using the Presonus Firebox: > > I turned on my laptop with presonus conected and all > of the sudden the soundcard is not recognized and a solid > red light stays on.Ive reie everything,changed FW > cables,reinstalled drivers,etc. but nothing.Is there a way > to internally reset it or has anybody had this problem? > > thanx > > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 22:34:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D5273BE79; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236638044; bh=xc0YvTpkIlW62DdLcIfvIrckQEthdO5osUe5K4JdWVw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uG60jUiEHUXh3Nh61IHgXgbmfpeu+ZJg9vL+bePfmGNljforyyVhzxGZx6wqKZI9k5vxDkXZ5zQtigLZ24aZiBP+R7HeFE+ReUQ2a4p6XHQ3N8numQnHgz3dgD3jY64JNxtKhoSsBLuEAxYq4JyhGatUztF1XLkdbOKKyPaTAhY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ma7tLWMDylIlytPHKEFhfXKXiotQ3PLv0fONWSeeGNz/UzK8dgjqYh/aeo4t2bTm0BOwz6eIVvu3YYU9S2gBUPXMJ3l3TfVIAcdzk1qRVdz6pa4DoZ3ZiQx3c0O8gVy0XCdxPmWtrVlU69aVkxU7VrVaQMW6NVx3PZkqwtxL8L0=; Message-ID: <581724.85356.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OR65K2UVM1lOs7BQJEAbZ_0Otdx8SMpH9HvnlFEa1VFcUV5vQrCveE_393lOJZ9N0ObNZUtxq1hnYw1wgZ2a289PmUoT0mqv9vOioQ6cuv8G_i6uwVuIbhh9w2k5hDXCwbxRoytF6rTOhQLWpZzC7fnRIT6OuD.luo8sNNWabDi8o8DzRkNSs18RtVztm4R6Pa7HfadBbV3.ZhUwB8572vrBX3qmtyUpwBwurAsqzICnrr6C X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <333287c30903091230u5fceb066k7f450afc8531c03a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:34:05 +0000 (UTC) thanx Nevyn though i forgot to mention that it needs to be half rack as i am looking to travel with it.Another anoying thing about a lot of these compact soundcards is that they dont have a master level knob in the front making it tedious to control,i want ot stay away from having to access the software and using the mouse just to do that! Cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Nevyn Nowhere wrote: > From: Nevyn Nowhere > Subject: choosing between these soundcards for laptop > To: "Loopers Delight" > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 12:30 PM > Don't know about the Echo, Edirol does the job, quality > (sound and physical > construction/design) isn't as good as MOTU or the > preference of mine you > left out: > > the Mackie Onyx 400F. > > Picked mine up brand new a couple years ago for under 500$. > Firewire. 10 > in and out. 4 solid nice sounding preamps with volume > knobs. Inserts, > phantom power and more. Rack card. Physically solid, > driver is solid, > never has crashed or fucked up on me at all. Also works as > a normal mixer > (although you have to do your routing via the software > mixer, then it saves > the last setting when you disconnect it, internally of > course so that it can > function without being hooked up to a computer). > > I'm always curious why I don't hear folks talking > about this piece of gear > on this list, as I've never had any problem with it (it > did have driver > issues after first coming out that resulted in a lot of > complaints, but > Mackie fixed those long before I got mine, and folks > aren't complaining any > more!) > > -nn > happyhumans.org > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:30 AM, L.Angulo > wrote: > > > > > Hi gang, > > I need your advice on this one my Firebox has crapped > out and is going to > > thake a while to get repaired since i have to send it > to the states. > > So i am on the hunt for another more reliable > one,between the 300 to 600 > > price range which one would you choose between these? > it needs to be bus > > powered,ins and outs should be assignable,drivers > should be stable,good > > sounding preamps and most of all reliable.Please tell > me your experiences > > with them! > > > > EDIROL FA-66 > > MOTU Ultralite MK 3 > > ECHO AUDIOFIRE 4 > > > > thanx for your advice > > Luis > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 22:39:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 621B73BE7E; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236638360; bh=qRm3GsBv1TgYHBlFVhKXKWZ2/L4EAaRd63oRra3AOuc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y34LNzZ/Sm+QyasTT9HSR8I3DKEdcdBfFMZpD4xITMcfCmplh+mlN24h/RBpclQhLCK8SQ4y06cBUN7KYUdtLmp9XH0NGf9SF/2ycziU+k6UVlF0bj9taO/kZCRGNA25zhbHGELJ5lqhxNQlA+yD5uumoN+yYgrb5FRiLv7+UY0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c084Pe5ZCoywICG2JP6H57waTBVhX3NNGXK8T+EeJ8aNdzTlzdYaEdl3Uc6YLDPPSDR0E6bTnXWtZN01fDo2Tzry30j6ycCoOPq0rLcpBRwgtwUFqXptrMAaPy41kejx30szz3N74/sPaTv0yO01fHdZgXp57Sl+cQDaghw9OIU=; Message-ID: <480672.90859.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6xNxXisVM1lyYnmZpaqqVhdPtmytC60ZaAxodroBiRji9MPk8tGMvWLLtJjSHl5l7imbIQJTSRpZLfk5DZG3BCtrxxsnHb0VO8fHgcBkqD41zFZsPsn1uXS_Pri3SGzS_FMjRPsorLBTSGw5ralSJyn3jDAylewr84U5K5DWOh5wLFEEV1SuRx1q2Xp5krxxI5YzYlIiQHHuPbFHkGJUQUC2ezJnzatY_RRGh5c- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Loopy blues examples To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <734436.72525.qm@web26407.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:39:21 +0000 (UTC) yeah this guy is a mudafucka and uses the RC 20XL to loop live! http://www.ashgrunwald.com/multimedia/ www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Rhod Evans wrote: > From: Rhod Evans > Subject: Loopy blues examples > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 11:12 AM > Hi all - this is a great active and friendly forum! Plenty > of posts, which is excellent - even if most of what you > write goes straight over the top of my head at the moment :) > > Are there any good examples of sound/video on the web of > anyone doing gutsy or jazzy blues with guitar & vocals > using loopers? > > Thanks From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 23:16:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D2A73BE80; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9cfe58db-7e66-4a58-ad43-ecd5bc4b6e97_" X-Originating-IP: [81.226.150.143] From: Anders Bergdahl To: Loopers Delight Subject: RE: Loopy blues examples Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:16:37 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <734436.72525.qm@web26407.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <734436.72525.qm@web26407.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2009 23:16:37.0827 (UTC) FILETIME=[18BA2930:01C9A10D] Resent-Message-ID: <3_W1YC.A.95B.WNatJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:16:38 +0000 (UTC) --_9cfe58db-7e66-4a58-ad43-ecd5bc4b6e97_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have any examples of what you are after. I'm more of a rock/blues b= ases player myself=2C so naturally my looping experiments reflect that. Wha= t I HOPE to be able to do is to channel some of the repetitive patterns of = delta and Chicago blues to my looping style. Create riff based loops and pl= ay Hound Dog Taylor style RAW guitar.. sort of channel the rhythms of delta= blues through looping... I have a long way to go before I will be able to = do that. But FOR ME that is much more interesting than trying to create "ba= ckings" to solo and sing over. I would more like the loop and the live play= ing to be one big blues riff moving along. Like 15 minutes of mannish boy.. =20 Welcome by the way :-) =20 Anders=20 www.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl (looping page) www.soundclick.com/abergdahl (some gear clips (a lot actually) and some liv= e looping not yet moved to the new site..) =20 Date: Mon=2C 9 Mar 2009 18:12:45 +0000 From: rhodhebrides@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Loopy blues examples To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hi all - this is a great active and friendly forum! Plenty of posts=2C whi= ch is excellent - even if most of what you write goes straight over the top= of my head at the moment :) Are there any good examples of sound/video on the web of anyone doing gutsy= or jazzy blues with guitar & vocals using loopers?=20 Thanks --_9cfe58db-7e66-4a58-ad43-ecd5bc4b6e97_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't have =3Bany examples of what you are =3Bafter. I'm more of = a rock/blues bases player myself=2C so naturally my looping experiments ref= lect that. What =3BI HOPE to be able to do =3Bis to =3Bchannel = some of the =3Brepetitive patterns of delta and Chicago blues =3Bto= my looping style. =3BCreate riff based loops and play =3BHound&nbs= p=3BDog Taylor style RAW guitar.. sort of channel the =3Brhythms of del= ta blues =3Bthrough looping... I have a long way to go before I =3B= will be able to do that. But FOR ME that is much more interesting than tryi= ng to create "backings" to solo and sing over. I would more like the loop a= nd the live playing to be one big blues riff moving along. Like 15 minutes = of mannish boy..
 =3B
Welcome by the way :-)
 =3B
Anders
www.soundclick.com/And= ersBergdahl (looping page)
www.soundclick.com/abergdah= l (some gear clips (a lot actually) and some live looping not yet = =3Bmoved to the new site..)
 =3B
Date: Mon=2C 9 Mar 2009 18:12:45 +0000
From: rhodhebrides@yahoo.co.ukSubject: Loopy blues examples
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Hi all - this is a great active and friendly forum! =3B Plenty of = posts=2C which is excellent - even if most of what you write goes straight = over the top of my head at the moment :)

Are there any good examples= of sound/video on the web of anyone doing gutsy or jazzy blues with guitar= &=3B vocals using loopers?

Thanks



= --_9cfe58db-7e66-4a58-ad43-ecd5bc4b6e97_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 9 23:23:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C3703BE85; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vrv2OHmrGoTj6vY0RRk1U7t96nPKTp7j5H71u+N5uf0=; b=BCHqUgLWb/Ny8N+MqUsBRJ3aBZrB36+VYg0k5UdP6BIj+MamMoRXGXqMjHRNM53A8t R8M5cKfX6Lpd8pUBV7QGKqfBhZHT/68bTo9cQ533NdkS940GiaJvHZnoNCDuid6YyyqW Z6OMcDUkGKhylD7Nb4reuSTX2pA7+Rq+/ha8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=PNb1vatK6AsQoFsWMhecKx1su3sbhsuG9GyqvE5MdpJpmQg97Y6/pwwIoJ4l7ELYzQ y1IjUAOgkknUvZ+wgCG5DmX+c/SEg2gPNEpDiSIAMjArin2zcH/meCctA+L3b3Eihr2B QSRDOoBs9vl6pQ7dmqpNfzWw1xCOmkbfficGU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:23:45 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b0d0c55553953099 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903091623h778654d5ye2331f6e974927b7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight , Andy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd311a20ef1270464b7ed6f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 23:23:47 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd311a20ef1270464b7ed6f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK... developments.. I mentioned before that Brother synch worked if I turned one edp on before the other, but then that stopped working... well my mistake.. still works, so no probs really... but still curious that one EDP doesnt boot up if its turned on second.. actually i think it IS booting up, cos the parameter lights turn up after the usual boot up time... -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --000e0cd311a20ef1270464b7ed6f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK... developments.. I mentioned before that Brother synch worked if I turn= ed one edp on before the other, but then that stopped working... well my mi= stake.. still works, so no probs really... but still curious that one EDP d= oesnt boot up if its turned on second.. actually i think it IS booting up, = cos the parameter lights turn up after the usual boot up time...

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--000e0cd311a20ef1270464b7ed6f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 00:02:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 95F103BE80; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1236643368; bh=a0jZybIef+IQczPKayKLoHSbwJcDJw47qEAgrhCemwY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PBW/7MuCVb1n0kp5tpBeem+rgiftakZrBLonLwOGyuFKysITQ7Y/vPmQc4jCw4hly/Q68FuUceNr6BgH8BXxojTs+rKKdKmwYDbU5XHA7woUfm0G0qp0MVIpmCfkZIovtxGovhY/4zed/3+qR0NXxS9041GrYduOKGoqsHPjWDI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JJyTYK2rVFkCy0pLOfyE13rc33yJ393T9eXkaaPgRc/7lfX7LHoNr9MwBcpXkeek/LiPI3oPKv9GKF/kG2d9DG9uICp25JzVc03XRqbEl00E5DNXTURGzWtM5H+EIH0TGwbikblfOJwMa9yecsLOP6PmZveODFLwUP/8NwZEYC0=; Message-ID: <483867.2687.qm@web26402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UD2hcMMVM1n62DfGBzuZQnayf1wMsDZRwUF_lrpmVtIxgs4Wp.96Ae.8A3R2rxKrjbq0k8_blyxv6D8_x621h7sEvnwgDEQzwJi7yEOLbzXRIHnj_l.llwwZNk0ovLOO1tlFnZIxU.Zm0h2R7YHEnECD.Yo3AAWIlHuWQsaSBoMFkVB84.XAGBtl2ZnWBg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <734436.72525.qm@web26407.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:02:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Rhod Evans Subject: Re: Loopy blues examples To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1973435408-1236643368=:2687" Resent-Message-ID: <1yw8n.A.RsE.p4atJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:02:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-1973435408-1236643368=:2687 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Anders - I loved Mercury Snake Blues and Bridge Blues - very tasty playi= ng. Are you doing this stuff at live gigs too? We are thinking along the = same lines, though I'm just groping my way forward as an absolute beginner = to looping - I agree with what you say about "backings" but for me it's a w= ay into the whole looping thing and hopefully just the beginning. Have you= come across this Ash Grunwald guy recommended by Luis - I think he's quite= something - check out his version of Crossroads on Youtube:=0A=0Ahttp://ww= w.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLHxv75z53ek=0A=0ACheers=0A=0ARhod=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___= _____________________________=0AFrom: Anders Bergdahl =0ATo: Loopers Delight =0ASe= nt: Monday, 9 March, 2009 23:16:37=0ASubject: RE: Loopy blues examples=0A= =0A I don't have any examples of what you are after. I'm more of a rock/blu= es bases player myself, so naturally my looping experiments reflect that. W= hat I HOPE to be able to do is to channel some of the repetitive patterns o= f delta and Chicago blues to my looping style. Create riff based loops and = play Hound Dog Taylor style RAW guitar.. sort of channel the rhythms of del= ta blues through looping... I have a long way to go before I will be able t= o do that. But FOR ME that is much more interesting than trying to create "= backings" to solo and sing over. I would more like the loop and the live pl= aying to be one big blues riff moving along. Like 15 minutes of mannish boy= ..=0A =0AWelcome by the way :-)=0A =0AAnders =0Awww.soundclick.com/AndersBe= rgdahl (looping page)=0Awww.soundclick.com/abergdahl (some gear clips (a lo= t actually) and some live looping not yet moved to the new site..)=0A=0A=0A= --0-1973435408-1236643368=:2687 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Anders - I loved Mercury Snake Blues and Bridge Blues - very tas= ty playing.  Are you doing this stuff at live gigs too?  We are t= hinking along the same lines, though I'm just groping my way forward as an = absolute beginner to looping - I agree with what you say about "backings" b= ut for me it's a way into the whole looping thing and hopefully just the be= ginning.  Have you come across this Ash Grunwald guy recommended by Lu= is - I think he's quite something - check out his version of Crossroads on = Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLHxv75z53ek

Cheers<= br>
Rhod

From: Anders B= ergdahl <anders_e_bergdahl@hotmail.com>
To: Loopers Delight <loopers-delight@loopers-deli= ght.com>
Sent: Monda= y, 9 March, 2009 23:16:37
Subject:= RE: Loopy blues examples

=0A=0A=0A=0AI don't have any examples of what= you are after. I'm more of a rock/blues bases player myself, so natur= ally my looping experiments reflect that. What I HOPE to be able to do=  is to channel some of the repetitive patterns of delta and = Chicago blues to my looping style. Create riff based loops and pl= ay Hound Dog Taylor style RAW guitar.. sort of channel the r= hythms of delta blues through looping... I have a long way to go befor= e I will be able to do that. But FOR ME that is much more interesting = than trying to create "backings" to solo and sing over. I would more like t= he loop and the live playing to be one big blues riff moving along. Like 15= minutes of mannish boy..
=0A 
=0AWelcome by the way :-)
=0A&= nbsp;
=0AAnders
=0Awww.soundclick.com/AndersBergdahl (looping page)
=0Awww.soundclick.com/abergdahl (some gear = clips (a lot actually) and some live looping not yet moved to the new = site..)


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(CBN) Hot Line: +234-7038211791 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 03:07:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF30C3BE81; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:07:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236654430; bh=NotbZqJWjhzdvaKuevZ6rrvYAOhLDj89LBYpeN9aehA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WgipMP0rw7p6bj3m7cAjQoYD9ckM/VNmDtrmTmwTrWR0RsOS8wawJx6EmCs9aMRvKD1B2KmJ8M87Qm5+Oj50FwqUN6VcqPCnhhkcDEeqgTJLGyr2XG6tT715rJeV8R98OhPu76XscPg0CQFOGrOD+lTW3rYm8TIzAU4YsX2mdlI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EhBgOD6gGfcTU+PupOtwdHCG4TIwEybP55A6nn9wRcCitgoJqZTC2dc0GxjX9tyS+Kj10r2zmO5UmCTH9zdgJE5cnMOSjMvH5uyK5bauuTC/ek+spiiIAhCoUjBB98GHhDo5b/si8KGl+fwS7DHfYN4nx2Wx42aHYgJvFV7bjmU=; Message-ID: <385584.94410.qm@web110216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6VyGa60VM1nXayAutiXeyBvXruQ7PJp7mVKSOybzcIjy6vC7W6heO2M73eOVnL8q8aTmm74Cz0Zl8sTAmNpWcfB0RyE_OksMWLOgTcsy4In8mUHcsTev4_B3T8WisM_gPiiwPF2rs6BX804mRI7bsdnPXoRff68IgrZoBWkHsdfy11qMfoq8b9louewy7HxRdvk9IKplexRovYVHFspTbbQ4Vqq6hZhPypv3FyKPMUhU.3Mxl23.xTH1nTSo6AvtaS9c00XOJsiOCezQuN731qRb605XlStH99ff X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 20:07:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: monstrous Racks To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-668673987-1236654430=:94410" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:07:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-668673987-1236654430=:94410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got all excited when I saw the 'subject' - I thought they'd be a pci of a= babe with large "fun bags". --- On Mon, 3/9/09, L.Angulo wrote: From: L.Angulo Subject: monstrous Racks To: "Loopers Delight" Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 9:11 PM lord just look at this: http://www.petecornish.co.uk/pfrig.html Is he still using this monster? or this http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/1386930087055177275LWuUkz Fripps is very elegant i must say: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fbuYL1Y4VSc/SKLdBV1YiYI/AAAAAAAAEpE/669Zdhgk47g/s= 1600-h/12082008+048.jpg Though i know Belew finally quit and bought a Johnson Amp;-) i think they d be offended seeing any of us using a laptop with guitar rig;= -) Luis =A0 =A0 =A0=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-668673987-1236654430=:94410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= /tr>
I got all excited when I saw the 'subject' - = I thought they'd be a pci of a babe with large "fun bags".

--- On Mon, 3/9/09, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
Sub= ject: monstrous Racks
To: "Loopers Delight" <loopers-delight@loopers-= delight.com>
Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 9:11 PM


lord just look at this:

http://www.petecornish.c= o.uk/pfrig.html

Is he still using this monster?

or this
http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/1386930087= 055177275LWuUkz


Fripps is very elegant i must say:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_fbu= YL1Y4VSc/SKLdBV1YiYI/AAAAAAAAEpE/669Zdhgk47g/s1600-h/12082008+048.jpg
Though i know Belew finally quit and bought a Johnson Amp;-)

i= think they d be offended seeing any of us using a laptop with guitar rig;-= )
Luis


     


=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-668673987-1236654430=:94410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 05:04:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 554F03BE7C; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mDBun5jrmQlrz1ufPWyhgAcacVu+10V4y/GdDxrP+3I=; b=kGJAXmnNXZXax+bglhqpMX9kFiQQmhu7BmG8/0Vn42VxaPxzCmZMGxL9Nwd5jGxmc+ RbO/QphAAE8ptk5/u4a6CqiHBKI9ElhHnLkgVZOftB7D9syNX4vYIl5jbJCTT8xuJ/8W IybxrG67R8ZT6hrsoLsmW/5JnHFXfmlEVk3Eo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CSr7BTT/RNraAr8yZrWKMIMG3Bco7Gr5t5PV4AhDqh+/25qZgWHsa44k19xH7gteOG 3n+joVW660jOKHnQO8H8S4w5xBUifb6+UK25lWsWUrGND8gwlKXU22OuFet4hyxwNRnb kcALcocvprRDz0k24V/U7w3IALMJN1K/KlAcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903091623h778654d5ye2331f6e974927b7@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903091623h778654d5ye2331f6e974927b7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:04:27 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2954c73c8380464bcafd7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:04:28 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2954c73c8380464bcafd7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TRS cable, right?Both units work fine with no MIDI/Brothersync? What about Brothersync connected bit no MIDI? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM, mark francombe wrote: > OK... developments.. I mentioned before that Brother synch worked if I > turned one edp on before the other, but then that stopped working... well my > mistake.. still works, so no probs really... but still curious that one EDP > doesnt boot up if its turned on second.. actually i think it IS booting up, > cos the parameter lights turn up after the usual boot up time... > > --000e0cd2954c73c8380464bcafd7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TRS cable, right?
Both units work fine with no MIDI/Brothersync?
<= div>What about Brothersync connected bit no MIDI?

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:23 PM, mark francombe &= lt;mark@markfrancombe.com>= wrote:
OK... developments.. I mentioned before tha= t Brother synch worked if I turned one edp on before the other, but then th= at stopped working... well my mistake.. still works, so no probs really... = but still curious that one EDP doesnt boot up if its turned on second.. act= ually i think it IS booting up, cos the parameter lights turn up after the = usual boot up time...


--000e0cd2954c73c8380464bcafd7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 05:32:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76D493BE7F; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Tom Griesgraber To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: FS: LP1 Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 22:32:38 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-AOL-IP: 63.199.240.114 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <_gy0ZC.A.QcD.-tftJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I have a Looperlative LP1 that I've had for a few years but have decided to part with. It's a fantastic unit as I'm sure most of you know, but I just have others I'm more familiar with and keep defaulting to, so I imagine there's probably a better home for this one out there. If anyone is interested, please e-mail me privately. I'm not really sure what the "street price" is on them, so feel free to make an offer. This is one of the original all black units and I think it was from either the first or maybe second production run. Thanks and happy looping! Tom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 06:21:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 985613BE7C; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NxWnDP9uFBlbM5TpAFNIusMpYigWwdxAt6OWnC0FzBY=; b=xMOYHL5mY/6GHXU8AflAZJHmKshWuJ8r8PuStJrE0/LIjsenEp14sxFcuEDp1WYpVw 8JSlaClmu5L+tUu5BnbQWnMdtBOt3BIRS5c4FVTJN2bsfwulBtJgEozgKB7pDgSevgbf WMwLvCaXgPF+xbUAQJR99+CQKlL/plL4SNcjc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RH7s8D24HniOfluwPiiMY/cckKSp65cdhy4VkrISQY3f9VqI9xg+a9Kdmv8hvLKM3b hCARisu1dKECeNGg8ItoBmxrj3B/kFaposc6Nuc7Qilelwkw0PkLyKAAggl5UxvH5RzV izE4dmXgfd7EKiA6ZKh5bxmg+cXMtVEYdPTII= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903091502i78af2920k79c20d6c48c7e62b@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903091502i78af2920k79c20d6c48c7e62b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:14:27 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c026612365e7ff56 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5acf8d323ed0464bda9f1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:21:58 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5acf8d323ed0464bda9f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, Is there any known bugs with Brother Synch? I seem to remember something about mismatched timing crystals. It can possibly be difficult to sync 2 EDPs from different manufacturing runs e.g. an old cream Oberheim with a Gibson blackface. The solution is to replace the crystals in both machines. Or something like that. I only have one EDP so I have no direct experience with brother sync. Ian --001636c5acf8d323ed0464bda9f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,

Is there any known bugs with Brother Synch?

I seem to remember something about mismatched timing cr= ystals. It can possibly be difficult to sync 2 EDPs from different manufact= uring runs e.g. an old cream Oberheim with a Gibson blackface. The solution= is to replace the crystals in both machines.

Or something like that. I only have one EDP so I have n= o direct experience with brother sync.

Ian

--001636c5acf8d323ed0464bda9f1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 06:59:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 502263BE7F; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.7400:2.4.4,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2009-03-10_03:2009-03-05,2009-03-10,2009-03-10 signatures=0 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:58:47 -0700 From: Andrew Schoen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <163911692780396065183851285650389058672-Webmail@me.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: 24.22.177.136 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 06:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Hey Per, Thanks for the thoughts on this. I did not make myself totally clear, but = you basically addressed my concerns of Live 8. I meant that once you have = a loop which might consist of say, 5 parts, you would then be able to impor= t each individual part as separate clips. Then you can effect, twist and m= anipulate individual parts of the loop, and grow it into something almost t= otally different. I guess that is just my desire as this is how I create m= y music most of the time. Below are examples of a 5 part loop I did over a year ago, and then the sam= e loop imported into LIVE and twisted (with some drums loops added). Select - Sea-legs Original loop: http://www.untitledvisions.com/Site/Loops_IV.html Select - Sea-Legs at: http://www.untitledvisions.com/Site/Music_I.html Like I said, I think it is just wishful thinking on my part because of how = I like to create my music! Thanks for some great loop insights! Andy =20 On Monday, March 09, 2009, at 03:05AM, "Per Boysen" w= rote: >On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Andrew Schoen wrote: >> I was truly excited to hear Ableton Live was going to add a looper to th= e Live arsenal! =A0I have yet to open the demo, >> as I have other projects right to finish right now, but it is my underst= anding that any loops created can be brought into Live as an entire loop cl= ip. > >Correct. There are two ways to do this. Drag the loop and drop it on >an audio clip and the usual way of routing it to an armed audio track >and activate a slot for triggering recording. > >> This is where I am really, really disappointed. =A0I hope I am totally w= rong about this, but it seems to me that this is an extreme oversight on Ab= letons part. > >Not sure what you mean. Do you mean that it is bad that they did not >implement a ful Undo History, as in Mobius, that would open up for a >command to save old layers of a loop as separate files? > >> Right now I am using my Guitar Rig 3 Loop Machine, and once I get someth= ing I dig, then I export it as separate wav files and bring those into Live= as separate clips and away I go. =A0At least 50% of all the music I do sta= rts this way. >> >> I just think that if you could separate your loop parts and import them = as individual clips, then I would be in loopers heaven! =A0If anyone knows = differently, please let me know! > >There is a slicing function now in v 8 that devices a loop into parts. >Not sure it works directly on the looper audio, but definitely on a >clip frozen from the looper content. If you by "parts" mean earlier >layers of the loop, that is not possible because only the latest layer >is kept aside in a buffer for the Undo function. > >It's right that Lived 8's Looper is not very complex, but for some >users that's a good point. I think it's pretty close to the Loop >Station pedal from Roland. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se >www.perboysen.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 08:04:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8F503BE80; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:04:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=t8U251k/fw5hTCoAv6PRZ+p0rNwA2tIjpOvpQ00jgpI=; b=pGmOA9jpqmge9qHsZq6vJH8iLUk6R/HO31TD6Q/i0vuTW0lty2Zk37cFomYmhLaU7w 1oPJIuiuKhmB1AcAJKalAFklmr9UAKxFHioSroBGy85OP8ZBhGCkAm6Qfye5Qm1Xb7Jx 3SNTMYvyQiAoicAw7ZGLox7txsJfPgqA6f8kc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=C4R61VmJaKvnNDTJ2YND29GXYtd9U2bBQAE487a4UtwDEybPOsdYTkQxKFX6ZqVwNc 035Pm80fUYMNcH4/HnkXv6V8cN3KSnUs+KsWXWYO0ZvpHUjIE65o7Dzq1iupLo+gcM/T KmKc7rioTktwlVVoXPkXl4S6TEdKTlnUXU2d0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:04:18 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903100104i737873e7lbc98cca4000a1a86@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:04:19 +0000 (UTC) I opened up my old FCB1010 pedal yesterday to see if I could take out one of the working button pads and use it to replace the bad one in my younger FCB1010 pedal. But I had to give up, it seems just impossible to get them out of that massive shell. Obviously that pedal was built to force people to buy a new one when a part of it breaks down. And that's what I'll have to do ASAP because I have time scheduled to rehears with the pedal. Woke up too early today and sitting here waiting for the stores to open up so I can pick up a new FCB1010 and get going. That's going to be my third unit since 2001. Not too bad sustainability after all, looking at the price. When thinking about the time and effort needed to repair a FCB1010 it actually comes out cheaper to buy a new one. That's because I'm a freelance worker in my own company that pays for my working hours out of my own pockets. Had I been employed I might have looked into building my own controller in free time over a period of time. A truly modular system of small boxes, each one with a button pad on the upper side and connection jacks on the sides to hook up with other box modules. Then you could set up variations of pedal control systems and transport them very easily. MIDI expression pedals should also be exclusive units to hook up with the rest. Hm, I wonder if each unit has to offer a MIDI jack or if another system can be used and then having one special "MIDI port in/out" unit at one end of the chain? A cool alternative idea is to not use MIDI at all but to go for cheap USB computer keyboards that you modify into "pedals". I could use that as well, but right now there is not time enough to remap my system and relearn the routines. Maybe table tennis balls can be glued to the keys to make for a foot controllable device? Or some light weight cell rubber material. But one thing is sure, be it table tennis balls or cell rubber boobs, they have to go in as many bright colors as possible! That would really look cool on stage. A Rainbow Micro Garden planted right at the stage floor... ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > My first one has a button that started acting up around the two-year mark= , > so I'm also interested. =A0Or has anyone ever taken one apart to clean it= ? > TH > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Has anyone tried to replace a worn-out pad button with a non worn-out >> on a Behringer FCB1010 pedal? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 14:39:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47DDF3BE80; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6mQ9AElZ65AMYmRtJ6YLqb3+t+JaDq70pa0d7gcsAnE=; b=JUS9hBXgSzoaybr8OrAu7wBVfFDUe6syWAOwdSYFa5KuJZV0kbsAUEsNEeG1AdBljo PrxCskAc2hDzE4+udRUW/nHbbyWAW2ZTkZ5tZQ2pRXToYBnqZ2FY+OpZ+YH4FqeEN5f3 TJC01E3pQ/bL9qqG+t0yaE95aw3QTDK67niuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=koSl3PjwqNIbzVdF7VW/x0pmXnnv9Kqww5FN5MidednNrmYHFJcLmrT2vmFccCXXAr 3kXnci6YFqllnQwU5O2/VeipPQKZ/TmQhJ0nYvecHr3qL6mphhkr7/Qy+qYrx3FMdQzK COCckVlhdoikyxf4WNiVQXVj9mAsaNi3hKLBc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903100104i737873e7lbc98cca4000a1a86@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903100104i737873e7lbc98cca4000a1a86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 07:39:28 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1a782ea08740464c4b71f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:39:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1a782ea08740464c4b71f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That's what I suspected. Making stuff repairable, or easily repairable also drives the price up. TH On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I opened up my old FCB1010 pedal yesterday to see if I could take out > one of the working button pads and use it to replace the bad one in my > younger FCB1010 pedal. But I had to give up, it seems just impossible > to get them out of that massive shell. Obviously that pedal was built > to force people to buy a new one when a part of it breaks down. --000e0cd1a782ea08740464c4b71f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's what I suspected. =A0Making stuff repairable, or easily repairab= le also drives the price up. =A0

TH

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I opened up my old FCB1010 pedal yesterday = to see if I could take out
one of the working button pads and use it to replace the bad one in my
younger FCB1010 pedal. But I had to give up, it seems just impossible
to get them out of that massive shell. Obviously that pedal was built
to force people to buy a new one when a part of it breaks down.
--000e0cd1a782ea08740464c4b71f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 14:54:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5813B3BE82; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.7400:2.4.4,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2009-03-10_05:2009-03-05,2009-03-10,2009-03-10 signatures=0 Message-id: From: Reyn Ouwehand To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0903091245w534ed13eqade7fe0697cebc30@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:54:25 +0100 References: <265501.89268.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <333287c30903091230p68add715y6b1c2cce59ae7f75@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903091230u5fceb066k7f450afc8531c03a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091245w534ed13eqade7fe0697cebc30@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1wEaYD.A.4PE.n8ntJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:54:31 +0000 (UTC) I use the Onyx pre-amps live and in the studio. Really good sounding pre-amps and very robust.... Cheers, Reyn www.reyn.net On Mar 9, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Nevyn Nowhere > wrote: > >> the Mackie Onyx 400F. > //// >> I'm always curious why I don't hear folks talking about this piece >> of gear >> on this list, > > Maybe folks are lazy, thinking the Onyx is too heavy? > A muso friend has one. Nice all-round piece of gear. > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 15:07:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E63B53BE7F; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=SkyabkS/FIXXgfynlFXEFTA/JnBQxCqQtmtTqezuzaE=; b=m5wUYH7BaakqBVc5VgS+5txWvuTCnDhtpOQOZ65qROCSKx4T4xjay5gcxex4ILsGE5 r//c1npIHmUgujh64PdEvf4T7D23IO0p1kwcM5Uz5nxI43zOsm5tI67llcBQgpQdc0G9 7z9NlGJnKBx93bBlaxYhIAjPG0CK5fkbLH8+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=vUMMq1YLG73PP2EWWiktj/LinYU2BP/gixZqKEFrRv2tacitJD1pyRtCZom0buftOE hxJpIzCArVfC9wk0zctiOKjsPArSyLLQ90LhnIii0wXGkC8DvCrlsFxb+IXXiWNn73wt RoXYvcR5kyvi0yxHnydb/kXMPCC6WePphIahA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903100104i737873e7lbc98cca4000a1a86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:07:56 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903100807w652cab7fm26011018f70245e6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3OcfH.A.dlE.MJotJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Yup. And they don't seem overly popular either. There wasn't one single FCB1010 to be found among all music stores in Stockholm today so I had one store order one from another city for me. Wonder if Behringer will keep on manufacturing them? While waiting for the new FCB to arrive I have daisy chained two faulty ones just to be able to rehears. Looks pretty funny. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > That's what I suspected. =A0Making stuff repairable, or easily repairable= also > drives the price up. > TH > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> I opened up my old FCB1010 pedal yesterday to see if I could take out >> one of the working button pads and use it to replace the bad one in my >> younger FCB1010 pedal. But I had to give up, it seems just impossible >> to get them out of that massive shell. Obviously that pedal was built >> to force people to buy a new one when a part of it breaks down. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 15:28:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC7E43BE86; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-DKIM: Sendmail DKIM Filter v2.8.2 mail-in-07.arcor-online.net 423AA3CA26C DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=arcor.de; s=mail-in; t=1236698935; bh=9PV7hIQKIw/TWnPUTAKkLggD8zY7cHXbKAVGWzck5A0=; h=Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To: From:Subject:Date; b=ZvUifHujfjkna/vdFJypNYzwzOyQFUNh40cHpnrMz8Ur94gNSgxqcs4NYTB/3RRTu tWjT5oB2Woq/iZDxsCUM/XS/sCaVebhYiKcFzm/BmLscdcVBgdReypuX055eAiY8wA FoQDWB/vBtQo3rWJCDFGxnm213aQUiCIUkRin3c0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andreas Willers Subject: DIY midi controller Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:28:53 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94.2, clamav-milter version 0.94.2 on mail-in-07.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:28:56 +0000 (UTC) Since Per brought this up: would it be possible (and how much worl is it) to build a midi controller (foot, hand or whatever) yourself? I know that Kenton sells circuit boards for projects like that, e.g.: http://www.kentonuk.com/kenton/pcb_project.shtml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 15:38:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A99AF3BE86; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49B6972C.9010801@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:37:00 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #622 for March 5, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #622 March 5, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight was Three Dreams on DiNDDL Records. Ian Boddy: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Mystified Cool Vapor Pulse Ringer Pieces (Droehnhouse) Ian Boddy Tourmaline Slide (DiN) Shalmaneser As Does a Sundial Ticker (Doubtful Palace) Jagged Surface Putrid Smell of an CDR (none) Artist Computerchemist After the Eclipse Landform (none) Seven Octaves A Minor Is Such a Simple Work (none) Lovely Key VA [Ricochet Memories of a Awakenings 2008 Vol 2.5 Gathering] Fallen Tree Pt. I (AmbientLive) Numina Buried Icon Sound Symbols (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Numina Sound Symbols * Sound Symbols (none) Ian Boddy Trappedn Black Three Dreams (DiNDDL) Ian Boddy Summer Lawn Daze Three Dreams (DiNDDL) Ian Boddy The FinalBreath Three Dreams (DiNDDL) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight will be The Final Question on DiNDDL Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4/ITZ-5) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 16:54:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFCD53BE7E; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 164381299/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.215.194/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.215.194 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkcBAIA4tklPTtfC/2dsb2JhbAAI02SEDAaHBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,336,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="164381299" Message-ID: <49B69D69.5080002@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:03:37 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DIY midi controller References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Looks pretty easy, with the Kenton, as they provide the module ready to go with pc editor software. ...but there's hardly any info what the units are capable of. To build from basic components would require quite a lot of effort, and would afaik be more expensive. andy Andreas Willers wrote: > Since Per brought this up: would it be possible (and how much worl is > it) to build a midi controller (foot, hand or whatever) yourself? I know > that Kenton sells circuit boards for projects like that, e.g.: > http://www.kentonuk.com/kenton/pcb_project.shtml > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 17:03:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BECB3BE7E; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: choosing between these soundcards for laptop Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:03:13 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c9a1a2$1c9a7bf0$030313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <581724.85356.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcmhByhQlbacdmO5QmiIR5D0rVxYvwAmpxkg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:03:26 +0000 (UTC) > From L.Angulo > thanx Nevyn though i forgot to mention that it needs to be > half rack as i am looking to travel with it.Another anoying > thing about a lot of these compact soundcards is that they > dont have a master level knob in the front making it tedious > to control,i want ot stay away from having to access the > software and using the mouse just to do that! Motu Ultralite is half size, and you can control any parameter from the front panel :) --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 17:24:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D8953BE7C; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B6A25B.4050203@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:24:43 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) References: <370311.28731.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <370311.28731.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Here's details on Edge's massive setup: http://edge-equipment.tripod.com/id75.html Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/1386930087055177275LWuUkz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 17:48:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 773873BE78; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mike Crain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-701669610 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: monstrous Racks Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:41:47 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:48:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-701669610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I got all excited when I saw the 'subject' - I thought they'd be a > pci of a babe with large "fun bags". That's hilarious, Paul!! hahahaha Mike Crain Percussionist/Composer Sacramento, CA 95818 mike@mikecrain.com http://www.mikecrain.com http://www.myspace.com/mikecraincom "Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be revealed in all their splendor, but the use of certain interferences created by the partials will represent an appreciable contribution." - Edgard Varese --Apple-Mail-3-701669610 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I = got all excited when I saw the 'subject' - I thought they'd be a pci of = a babe with large "fun = bags".

That's = hilarious, Paul!! hahahaha


Mike Crain
Percussionist/Composer
Sacramento, CA = 95818
mike@mikecrain.com
Not only will the harmonic possibilities of the overtones be = revealed
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= --Apple-Mail-3-701669610-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 20:51:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0451C3BE7C; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: vst compressors Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:51:11 +0100 Message-ID: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmhwfGZEtCQ3hyvQDeeXbcrJMxBvg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.107; VDF: 7.1.2.146) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:51:14 +0000 (UTC) trying to replace my GT-5 with vst plugins ... first of all, I need a compressor. for some reason, my favorite kind of compressor sound has always been an extreme setting that reduces the string attack to almost a mere click, and then keeps the volume constant, turning the decreasing string vibration into an almost linear sustained note ... of course this needs a volume pedal after the compressor so that noise doesn't get too loud when the string gets too quiet ... now I find myself browsing through endless lists of freeware vst compressors without really understanding the differences ... any recommendations? http://freemusicsoftware.org/category/free-vst-effects-2/compressor after this, next thing will be the crunch/distortion/fuzz department ... -michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 21:11:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AFAB3BE7C; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=d8P+sIbi8FJEyQKtp1sWKApKTJSu7rTdMuO5/pzqeJ4=; b=i8cz2oQI80dM8goNxvXNHFzt4TPTsVaX8UMtdCbxfQne0Ft0T064k5BhXP25EvRXLf fjg/QrGLjdranzILoy0ebOVds1BIVgSATMCEIpeNO85PDYUt50skU7Vb84tC0EtbvtLc 35owpJKERJnysklFzCtn7Ni1QOhFXLt/qI1DM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rx/tSxt5ypBrt1/OaLcLGsVD3cfHYdXFEr6cRE/jKiD0taacmOJwe8SmJKtekUDqRC u7Y/N9ILcGwP/NgSbnrqpKjIbeUm9auoCucRhcY438ch5NNi514C6aKbjkW7uyg0P37Q KUvvCvAqG65msXEabnzHzkUyv87cIzoyIK0u0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:11:03 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903101411r56e5cfdfya082e83eff46461@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst compressors From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8XhxGC.A.ypF.odttJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:11:04 +0000 (UTC) For that particular application of compression I can recommend Sonalksis SV-315. It's not free but well worth the money. It gives a slight coloring of the sound similar to what you get from analog equipment. A good point with this compressor is that it does all its work within the plug-in buffer, which means it does not add extra latency to the signal chain (good for Bidule users). If you buy a license you're not only getting the VST for both Windows and Mac but also the AU for Mac. I bught it together with their eminent EQ SV-517 and have been using them for years in Numerology, Bidule and Live on both Mac and Windows. With Logic and MainStage I use the Logic compressors that are equally good but more transparent sounding. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > trying to replace my GT-5 with vst plugins ... first of all, I need a > compressor. for some reason, my favorite kind of compressor sound has always > been an extreme setting that reduces the string attack to almost a mere > click, and then keeps the volume constant, turning the decreasing string > vibration into an almost linear sustained note ... of course this needs a > volume pedal after the compressor so that noise doesn't get too loud when > the string gets too quiet ... now I find myself browsing through endless > lists of freeware vst compressors without really understanding the > differences ... any recommendations? > http://freemusicsoftware.org/category/free-vst-effects-2/compressor > > after this, next thing will be the crunch/distortion/fuzz department ... > > -michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 21:50:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CA523BE7F; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236721801; bh=PXgGSNs8YJiqDazMkmQwxQVj7U1B5/NAPpjAuIesa2o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Vy4JcT9OAlsJ4rCj8SPfEDDlOVsJiYDH5PkrwO75N/sZHgxgASZk37uG2Q6/WRb71bKXZVI4wbWUnTGNFWSpj99UOWyeEuxsMTfIHXtAeT0tTLgLCX26KCES1loAPD2I/G3XM2hcl3z+nuWoeu9i9f2FNpjQHbMWbAOyiAjbNGU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KVmQOROKYOb+3L3akX35jU4FzFGdnVVqgUEjqLHz1ao48RzXcee44OgwLrajhl9hrWqtFDI33HJLnR9HtnK/MRsv4OQD+KRpirL+05r3WOWU1w2r12ngeoF4ZBvJ/3I4HiVt90Pln+zBxZ87B9ZHZ00RjDc0k/RZFB8KSnqr/08=; Message-ID: <732355.16960.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: guTRv_EVM1lZeaqgb8c2OGvAAJepgn.rnSV3.70Fk2nc.8W6Bu1Toew66SJ4Z0k51afklQZOLEftZuaeDH2weuXzmZNbFy59..dsATgfWa98KysUlx.FvEG4WDXObD4bEBDWbI8fQHw2QpJhfvrkxVTqkJG88LKqK6jaUpp1JkJMOzdTkWztN_v__63M X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B6A25B.4050203@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:50:04 +0000 (UTC) wow that is too much... its amazing that he is still using the korg A3=B4s i used to own one and th= oguh i thoguht they were awesome 10 years ago during my last visit to calif= ornia i turned it on for the first time in 8 years and was amazed how noisy= and crappy the sound was!I believe that some old stuff will never be simul= ated the same way but many effect proccesors now days definetly sound bette= r,i believe guitarrist do suffer from some sort of gear attatchment syndrom= e;-) but it defiently look more excitingalmost like a NASA project unlike watchi= ng a guitar through a boring laptop! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 10:24 AM > Here's details on Edge's massive setup: >=20 > http://edge-equipment.tripod.com/id75.html >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com >=20 > > > http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/1386930087055177275LWuUkz=0A=0A= =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 10 23:11:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 583773BE86; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236726717; bh=kRXeSxE0eeCj0kJkbhHpseMGh7nFR+wddw0R8ne9fTg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OWxCVafIKJtt0hR8Kss9YGk5m0AOsz69R7SEEJyc2yqIVdMcLMqOGR/7DGgh8/hQP/FEJUVetVBOktJGf5cP11kKb4mHj8oqkyx23st6xexUoAjXWmtOyCYRpXRg8VZX8t3RVZx+GCp9qnKj95MtHCe+aivYrDHx4Pz9oHFpkb8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hG9IaJ6qzURAyn6Pfz3kLCe/MHNY0Omv+PapFvkuQaO+KqD6gTrkLR8Zdk1FdeVjU290gl8kzqdJOoOW6Fvc2GSm5UrzgTznnka0JqrYnV4GHTdPSxsOminXRWTapx0tedhDt/Bm3pmQONSXfRFOdBXPvGeDFyizKWL6Eclo//I=; Message-ID: <508060.3472.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: F3dHMooVM1lb5EvXgCHSPgY24xSN9X03Ne392vyhMi3hmqzhJQ7bf1Vpw8KviE2lYsRQxTk2DA9rGZariGy7rElshGyucLLVHrLmsI.L5oVmYISDbA9EvYATOKyzWjdI12W5sEHwgzGHC4tWbbO3NtL3OdOqqsC.DPBFMAVPgsQUB9dKHGdDqfSxCI5SN1djj_gKjEiqVvNWjvtaZ.0CooFAtr97 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 16:11:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: choosing between these soundcards for laptop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001c9a1a2$1c9a7bf0$030313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Ok Sjaak you got me convinced! ive been checkin out reviews on the Motu ultralite and stuble across some unreliable videos of the card on youtube,i hope they are exceptions! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: RE: choosing between these soundcards for laptop > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 10:03 AM > > From L.Angulo > > thanx Nevyn though i forgot to mention that it needs > to be > > half rack as i am looking to travel with it.Another > anoying > > thing about a lot of these compact soundcards is that > they > > dont have a master level knob in the front making it > tedious > > to control,i want ot stay away from having to access > the > > software and using the mouse just to do that! > > Motu Ultralite is half size, and you can control any > parameter from the > front panel :) > --- > Sjaak > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From nmlodge@zamnet.zm Wed Mar 11 03:01:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 84499 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:01:41 UTC Received: from mkango.zamnet.zm (mkango.zamnet.zm [196.46.192.38]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5133BE80; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kaingo (smtp.zamnet.zm [196.46.192.46]) by mkango.zamnet.zm (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n25MXHHR066520; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:33:27 +0200 (ZMT) Received: from zamnet.zm (unverified [196.46.192.46]) by zamnet.zm (Rockliffe SMTPRA 6.1.22) with ESMTP id ; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:10:19 +0200 Message-ID: <380-22009345221019686@zamnet.zm> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: nokiadavidcolenokia2009@hotmail.com X-Originating-IP: 41.204.224.15 From: "NOKIA GLOBAL LOTTERY" Subject: Mr.Alex Rogers Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 00:10:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: n25MXHHR066520 X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (cached, score=0.652, required 5.5, BAYES_00 -2.60, MISSING_HEADERS 1.29, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET 1.96, SPF_PASS -0.00) X-MailScanner-From: nmlodge@zamnet.zm X-Spam-Status: No To: undisclosed-recipients:; NOKIA GLOBAL LOTTERY 2009 !!! The 2009 Nokia email ballot selection=2E Attention dear email account owner,you are hereby notified that your email address was randomly selected to be among the 20,000lucky winners of the Nokia Global Lottery 2009=2E You are hereby entitled to a prize of a Nokia Blackberry phone and $1,000000 dollars=2E For your claims you are to contact the dispatch officer via email with the following information below: Name: Mr=2E David Cole email: nokiadavidcolenokia2009@hotmail=2Ecom fill the following information for claims Names: Country: Address: Age: Fax Number: Office Number: Occupation: Sex: Personal Number: Regards, Mr=2EAlex Rogers From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 03:12:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2C4E3BE86; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=x503jQ9AnNw0boCqh6e5Xbo8zkwGftUsaN8TGzF1fPs=; b=MkbWy5Hoy5cB8ln8UFu80ZbOosNA63FM7DR0G+1iOG3baJZ0ebDz5fqERw51r9ZyrX L5iYmwpnXfykNkBNJehZrg2D2cTkAg9KPuJYcxE7Jk+wf7R0reIrohKLDDiUfqMGTVkV gZ33RMFPS6qr/SKLBRNIOqVvZygfgb//JUqkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oydZWhE2HgQ/yXyF5oVl11Zke5SbElnHehuIerHx/yEhjSgSvmWr9dBtLadEbQ98L9 XV5GqAU6Nt8taEcK6IXPJPUcagqv6WZ1LNphbACbwqPGVg7z5nLSlC0HkRmRHZ/Fe5/O xgDSE4Rroy3fVSBhPAJ0PZZlOLiVV8IXMhW+Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:12:12 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903102012t3a793sdca6204d4d96d647@mail.gmail.com> Subject: bitrman vst, was Re: vst compressors From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:12:18 +0000 (UTC) Michael, You haven't asked about distortion yet, but I followed your link, poked around a bit, and was pleasantly surprised to find "distorto" a bitrman style vst, something I've been looking for. http://freemusicsoftware.org/950 I sold my bitrman long ago, so I can't compare the vst to the original, but I had fun playing with it. The download link on the site is broken, but this one works: http://www.scarkord.com/plugins/distorto.zip Thanks! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 03:23:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B4F63BE87; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <508060.3472.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <508060.3472.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <37CE4DD6-9D5F-4B4D-9A7A-2A6D2958E25B@zonemobius.com> Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:22:21 -0500 To: labaloops@yahoo.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:23:01 +0000 (UTC) > On Mar 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > ive been checkin out reviews on the Motu ultralite > and stuble across some unreliable videos of the card on youtube, > i hope they are exceptions! I'm also a fan of the Ultralite. I have the original one (not the Mark whatever). The thing I like most about it is the flexible routing. Since there so many channels with zero latency monitoring, you can set up monitor mixes and stereo effects loops and still have channels left over for computer IO. You can also use it without a computer. It takes a lot of twisting tiny multi-mode knobs, but it can be done. The Cuemix software is easy to use. Functionally it is very similar to the RME-400. I'm told the mic preamps aren't as good as the RME but it's almost 1/2 the cost. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 03:35:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172123BE8E; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:35:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 129569 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:35:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=gLJwkVIFaq4mPERz8WzViZw5tz+Pd4Jyzylzml7UNg8=; b=uYxn6Zuah8EuCkf5O72RSpLf3br8nmvt9C538y5w3kQDudxwT5kf4y7W2TrT3ZJ/eg Z15T6RiFPPxSd01u0BMCjRzNcXvKIVXh9lvoNkuoTghCTVB4ssVY1CL+/D/XVPl0yH3u qE+OSsVe6vKq79Ubee3nl11fbdAyxNK3hIegE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; b=QEHpuPqULB63slsYcHXm+G1MUBYYFijFfiXNdgFpPvOj+MVFqVuggxoEYJ8KjTln+x 1lu2h0d1OuYhan8HgKiotr423b9stYUKYXF05iwMSKglUB/HRSdCTIaKo0EdpqZbCFcu w20lyLIXz5gp5ltbMb/sI8bQcrH7+XAbFIZS4= From: "Tony K" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: EJamming Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:35:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000101c9a1fa$62ba1cf0$282e56d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C9A1D8.DBA87CF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acmh+mHEueHcxpS9Rne+fNmHygkyXw== Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 03:35:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C9A1D8.DBA87CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody here tried the EJamming site for online collaboration? http://www.ejamming.com/home/ Just curious as to what they mean by zero latency sync. Seems to me it defies the laws of physics. Tony ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C9A1D8.DBA87CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Anybody here tried the EJamming site for online = collaboration?

 

http://www.ejamming.com/home/<= o:p>

 

Just curious as to what they mean by zero latency = sync.  Seems to me it defies the laws of physics.

 

Tony

------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C9A1D8.DBA87CF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 04:09:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0758A3BE8C; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Loren Claypool To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst compressors Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:09:19 -0500 References: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Michael, I would suggest Pod Farm as worth exploration. In addition to the amps, cabs, and mics, it has a myriad of effects models, as well. All the best, Loren Claypool genre-indifferent instrumental guitar music www.lorenclaypool.com and links from there From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 04:23:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 833813BE8E; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B73CCB.5050607@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 21:23:39 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:23:47 +0000 (UTC) The Edge has 8 rack mounted digital delays and and Eventide Harmonizer, which I'm sure he used mostly for ...........................delay hmmmmmm, do you think that he hangs his entire aesthetic on digital delay? This is hilarious and yet made me feel better about owning 10 or 12 distortion pedals. ..........speaking of the devil, I took my new stomp box, distortion oriented board out last night and test drove it at a Noise and Rhythm show for the very first time but that's another self indulgent Off Topic post.................... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 05:45:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A3B63BE86; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B74FE3.50005@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 22:45:07 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Distortion looping rig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:45:15 +0000 (UTC) I took my new distortion/rhyhm oriented rig out for it's first test drive in public last night and I'm really pleased how it performed (or, guess how I performed with it) I tried a lot of different combinations out and finally settles on this rig: I feel like I may border on the self indulgent but I"m really, really excited about the possibilities of this unconventional setup. I wanted to document it, share it, get feedback and suggestions if anyone has the time. I also want to know if anyone else has been thinking along similar lines in the intent of the pedal board or if reading about it kicks off any creative thoughts about cool ways to use it. Here goes: *_DESIGN:_* For one, I wanted the pedal board to be in the air and not on the ground, so that I could manipulate all the noise with my hands and also so that it would be a little more theatrical. Towards that end, I put a Line 6 DL4 on the ground for each of the two mono lines I have in the pedal board (a mid/treble line of pedals and a bass line of pedals) So that I could make initial loops (even if it was just a droney non-rhythmic guitar loop) to free me to manipulate the timbre and rhythm of the resultant noise with my Looperlative which was at the very end of the chain. The pedal board itself is a large rectangular percussion table that I can put up high enough to manipulate pedals standing up. You can view how it looks here (though the pedal configuration was a little difference as I was playing more experimental music at the Luggage store in the performance in the video) www.youtube.com/rickwalkerlivelooper Here's what's on the board and then what that feeds into, finally *_PEDAL BOARD #1 for Guitar and Treble Sounds (voice, metal percussion, noise blasters, megaphones)_ Instrument ==> Line 6 DL4 (on floor) ==> ==> DOD Buzz Box (4 separate EQ bands of fuzz from smooth to earthquake) ==> Boss Slicer pedal ==> Digitech DF-7 Distortion Factory (most famous historic distortion models, digitally modelled in one unit) ==> Ibanez Demon Wah ==> ==> chest high **(for manual controlled amp modelling and overdrive as a rhythmic effect and manipulation of acoustic feedback at low volumes)* * VOX DA-5 battery powered amp ==> Shure SM58 mic ==>Mackie 1202VLZ Mixer ==> Looperlative LP-1 in aux send one _ PEDAL BOARD #2 for Bass sounds (bass guitar, guitar, low pitched drums, etc.) _ on same physical board as the treble sound setup Instrument ==> Line 6 DL4 (on floor) ==>_ _==> DOD Meat Box (separate sub octave fuzz, companion to the Buzz Box for bass) ==> Zvex Fuzz Factory ==> Alesis Ampliton (fantastic tremelo that I'm surprised more people aren't into) ==> Boss OD20 (Distortion Modeller w/ awesome Fuzz Octave and ability to cycle through 5 presets, rhythmically) ==> Boss FT-2 Dynamic Filter (a wonderful discontinued pedal that allows Envelope Filter control via an expression pedal----though I used my hands instead as I had run out of real estate on my board ==> chest high (for manual controlled amp modelling and overdrive as a rhythmic effect) ROLAND Micro Cube portable battery powered amp **==> Shure SM58 mic ==>Mackie 1202VLZ Mixer ==> Looperlative LP-1 in aux send one _ INTENT of the SETUP: _* I wanted maximal control of distortion and equalization on both sides of the rhythmic manipulators (Boss Slice and Alessis Ampliton) I have to say that the mixer section added to the Boss Slicer pedal is wonderful as you can completely control both volumes of the initial sound and the rhythmically sliced sounds so I could morph amorphous distortion sounds into rhythm sounds. Also, the Boss Slicer (which I originally disliked because it didn't have any customizeable rhythm functions) allows for real time control of the envelope (both attack and length of slices) and I used that a hell of a lot to morph from one rhythm to another. Being able to send a rhythmic set of distortion sounds into the distortion modellers to then be timbrally modified by the wah wah and dynamic filter pedals let me really sculpt the sound. I ended up using really simple and constant rhythms (pure tremelo or contant 16th notes on the Slicer) and got more variety out of manipulating the sound, envelope and frequency range of the resultant sounds. Additionally, the Digitech DF7 has small bits of square wave bounded silence in between each model. By sweeping it from lo timbred distortion models to hi timbred ones (the way it's set up from left to right) made for really incredible glitching techniques or if I was careful, really accurate rhythmic manipulation of the sound. Both battery powered amps had the same function..............switch the digital effects or the amp modellings on both of them results in glitchy rhythmic slicings that can be manipulated rhythmically. I have to say that outside of noise sources, (On strat tuned DDDDD (the sixth string snapped by detuning!), human voice/kazoo (yes, kazoo, lol), noise blasters, toy megaphones, real megaphones and programmable toy music box) all I did was manipulate the timbre and rhythm of the distortion. Oh yeah, and I also had a huge marching bass drum with metal chains to junk up the sound and a huge marching snare drum with metal chains which I used on one song to give it some actual groove. I'm really excited with this setup and there is so much to learn about it. 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And I definitely see an interesting opening for the harmonizer in that context - but I agree with you that The Edge rarely has been heard playing harmonizer pitched sounds... So maybe he uses the harmonizer for a chorus effect? Multi tap delay is very cool, I think. Some software plug-ins that do that are Augustus Loop, PSP 608 Multidelay and Apple Logic's Delay Designer. The Delay Designer is fun because it lets you tap in the different delay lines' delay time in real-time, if you want. And those multiple delay returns can also be quantized with a swing or shuffle feel. Plus there is a harmonizer (!) that you may through into a delay line to make each delay loop rise or stagger downwards. I like the DelayDesigner because it does NOT try to copy the traditional tape delay machine aesthetics but rather to come up with a sound design tool optimized for laptop musicians working in the software domain. 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Thanks . wilson peter From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 12:31:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 788973BE86; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xUEy3eD9UbGxyaVARMGTCivVtC1Mlzob51oqiUKsWqU=; b=EaFSAJ/IwXQ5QFC0zohWIDFJGykKBQANwZhNv/1pwl6cPdWwCysEcum+42xID01NnM DXQyC0V3izo8/G6BjNuhDGcMe7B3ecopl8SYMhnsOHRmRwLeYq4HcNxL/KkHbFOKF/dr GTL4gk3YtlVgh6HE/lJWaixb3vWMz4Vc/i0qc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ctQYFZqMCMHs8PmK9MobupGKD3NCRXfxxIrYbCIgZpTyqc8qavOCbQ4D3aJV4FnOvr i0MVQ9n/59wVKPT8F+WRgWBDZryV1brq2ApqYCNuhZe5zA3tGK1hTd/HwP74nqWefjwP nv4C9vqS1uvAqBQnmwhhRRjMtKIWhyu2Z1e5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:31:11 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903110531p226755b2q6657a9bc763b989a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: vst compressors From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Loren said: "I would suggest Pod Farm as worth exploration." I use PODFarm for the amp stuff. Regarding compressors (if we're still in that part of the thread), the LA2A model is a very beautiful, intutive and unobtrusive one (unless you really want it to be). Most of the time, you need exactly one control (just as with the original). However from all the remaining compressors (stompbox thingies), there is none that fulfills Michael's requirements for that extremely snappy attack, followed by a pull-up during decay. Michael, have you tried using one of those transient designers? I had great fun in the past using a hardware one (TC TripleC), but I'm sure there are tons of free VSTs available. Can't give a recommendation, alas. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 12:40:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43A7A3BE8E; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:40:12 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:40:14 +0000 (UTC) > Jeff wrote: > I'm also a fan of the Ultralite. I have the original one (not the > Mark whatever). The thing I like most about it is the flexible > routing. Since there so many channels with zero latency monitoring, > you can set up monitor mixes and stereo effects loops and still have > channels left over for computer IO. I have the Ultralite for 2 months now. I told this list before but imo it= 's perfect for many of us: flexible routing, compression, EQ, reverb, bal= anced ins/outs. I use 4 stereo mixes now: FOH PA, stage monitors, live re= cording and a mix to feed the LP1 with Mainstage, Bidule and my hardware = synths instruments. I agree with you Jeff, the routing options are great.= > You can also use it without a computer. It takes a lot of twisting > tiny multi-mode knobs, but it can be done. I don't mix individual channels when playing live, I only use the master = level knob to change the level of my stage monitor or headphones. > I'm told the mic preamps aren't as good as the RME but it's almost 1/2 = the > cost. I don't use mics with the Ultralite so I can't comment on the quality of = the mic pre-amps. But I would expect they are more than good enough for a= live looping performance and for the avg. semi-pro recordings we make at= home. But Jef, perhaps you know this. At the moment, I use a separate stereo mi= x to feed a Boss digital recorder. But is it possible to send the main mi= x back into the Mac and record a gig with Audacity for example? --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 12:41:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50D6F3BE79; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: DIY midi controller Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:40:47 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230D14E7D5@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: DIY midi controller Thread-Index: AcmiRpoGfaXirGVFS2yJ7/9L+KlOJQ== References: From: "Dean, Hal " To: "Andreas Willers" , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2009 12:38:35.0863 (UTC) FILETIME=[4BB98670:01C9A246] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:41:59 +0000 (UTC) Just in case others are not aware of it, for $10 US you can buy a PC-compatible game controller (I have a Logitech Precision), download free software that converts it to MIDI (I use Rejoice), and voila - MIDI controller. No foot pedal connections, not so easy to adjust with one hand - but dirt cheap, very small and light.=20 Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: Andreas Willers [mailto:a.willers@arcor.de]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:29 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: DIY midi controller Since Per brought this up: would it be possible (and how much worl is =20 it) to build a midi controller (foot, hand or whatever) yourself? I =20 know that Kenton sells circuit boards for projects like that, e.g.: =20 http://www.kentonuk.com/kenton/pcb_project.shtml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 13:25:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A55493BE88; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=/Ca71s1bhy/RoY40mGHXoIMlSbIfEhDY6RsbqxmnBgQ=; b=svtEBCht2b/1O+JBweWnpTatX1uciktfgwAhsa2eKpPaCtKLCBW2oJFFlsINSCaXZD WuwrpMhgWMNoZnFCOAiUTeB9W4LlN+tlWLmHbILjGweCRpueTvkvX16U84mKxNem/9yK g8MDwzz6n69siCQjrKavZEhQI+wUMpJh69F/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HRmn2tqNcPzGLooO0i1E9fGsV8pLWXIuxXvPc8ckdWEeuzYX/Af5j3XOxCgbmI0+I3 EGrUZ/3oRffuQwtVV+w9/A5i2lkGzoixXNifSwXWapsgapZYAbx1GlmuIgZ+vB87P/hg EEBZIyM2B3+ScLFKAAnV4TSp8axbAtSG/Kvms= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:25:05 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903110625k49a1ba7mcad27cd5943f89f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT Distortion looping rig - and Devi Ever Eye of God From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Rick said: "The wonderful people at Analogue Haven, rushed me out a Devi Ever Eye of God (which has a photo sensor that allows you to control a feedback loop for simple but wonderful psychedelic wash effects and it arrived on the day of the gig, but It had stereo ins and out and I couldn't get it to work in mono" At the risk of sounding overtly arrogant-fatherly: I just took a look at the product site of devi ever, and here is what it says: ">>> JACKS - main INPUT - bottom right - main OUTPUT - bottom left - loop SEND - top right - loop RETURN - top left" Which means, this is (as you also state), this is basically some dynamic feedback loop controller. So your cabling goes some like this: Signal source (input signal or signal from another effect, say Amplitron) -> Eye of God main INPUT stompbox which goes into feedback loop input (say, Boss OD20) <- Eye of God loop SEND stompbox which goes into feedback loop output -> Eye of God loop RETURN Next step in your signal chain (next stompbox or guitar amp, say FT-2) <- Eye of God main OUTPUT Why wouldn't that work? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 13:43:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04E323BE87; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jDFRq4AR0vRwmGWO5yHXHjmFSL7Wat6gdbdjTOBPmQU=; b=lWr+ysYzASaIpC58zfpBUvdBkwyHBY6xmd+zA6ZzI+xWWnDsM2RZqLypAu73XhIBag z3rl8anuFbZR5ORIAM18W9ni5zpLLxx9xaJ6+hmvQQbzYST0OcUIjKJANgBaKSlltPxq +mcNkAh8by4OLdNCLllQXwiJX0yTVrwLYoiuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=HjnBeZg5/8REagRWyCP22bLL2+wKgshGieWUzyTsUQPCJpKi4prdyEpRobtHWm4VeT KENxjnsrDPDUHlJq+wUQKmq6ou2QPP39kfDOITevIXjpv9uxR34wseLF7gxTMK1wusGP JqpRMU3IA1rvSPJpL4aMaojxtuspyIgf6+Zek= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:37:07 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: c066523f6767fbfc Message-ID: <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:43:16 +0000 (UTC) So, I actually got Mobius working inside Mainstage wo crashing it, by selecting the IAC Bus as the VST Output in the plugin. pretty interesting syncing Ultrabeat drum patterns to Mobius loops. There are a couple of weirdities about this: 1) Mobius sends out a Start message when the first playback of the first loop starts, but it doesn't appear to send out any particular message at the start of a loop cycle. So if you don't catch that Start message, all you have to hold on to is a series of Clock messages. Maybe there's another output mode I don't know about in Mobius that sends out some message at the start of every cycle. 2) Ultrabeat patterns sync to clocks in an.... umm.... "interesting" way. I'll leave out a detailed description of this until I can figure out a way to start them exactly on time. 3) Ultrabeat doesn't respond to the Start messages that Mobius sends out anyway - i'd have to use a bidule (or max patch), i think, to translate that message into a note-on for one of the patterns in Ultrabeat pattern mode if i wanted to start a pattern in sync with my loop. interesting journey, this From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 15:12:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 043983BE8B; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236784357; bh=+PnXI0cJ/C2h1Pift2uSZAd4tHQXtgHYwAM4cwF6258=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qk5oUIzlAc21p7bNouMBJzYcx8J8K+LUzGNXJfSipK7NSZqeRNPplGDek+Wn+AUsYgir9fjW1wEVYwJUyw4v/rj+wdDTwAuJbdbPuSSpuFlevsF30C0vASJxs6a1EFucWN8Z/q0qup4u68hGE3PLMW0tVBQMzHGIQvWVyq91uNE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yPzGxrZKp/LsDnIqvYX0l1r9EI4B3yR5OXNH2J+3qS25OQAAKRpoH1ryG2Fgn3R3kNVQ/M3UqhVtFWZryF/SMpCdIn+DkAhJVqt1/p02OYNW8OKRkez7RERB/45PiPToH4/RdJ3YoGyE6v609svlO+jAbwUE8DHciz1Ny3xEskg=; Message-ID: <713540.3521.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hj3Qq40VM1nUy9.QIKOOSRlwcs_6F.YW7v_AV2K4NBdc0V7L_5OjqMX8NKJ_rGYC.otcPCbPm9mDZXRVMm8MUFYnc35eLL9.gmNSrMdIEUK4fsaMNRCnxFMYUiOlDHg87erEkj4ILe_lKNfQfdXK6MxZcLT4j2utPwoWrNOH6a.sGIXDgk91m_Pa00Y8nSwGUgo- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:12:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37CE4DD6-9D5F-4B4D-9A7A-2A6D2958E25B@zonemobius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <64tfCB.A.soD.mT9tJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Jeff ive also been checking out the Apogee duet. what are your thoughts on that one?i would be using it in the aux send of my mackie mixer because i need various inputs for other instruments. It looks very slick, howeever there is something about that breakout cable that bothers me...maybe getting used to it;-) anybody using it? pros cons? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > From: Jeffrey Larson > Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 8:22 PM > > On Mar 10, 2009, at 6:11 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > ive been checkin out reviews on the Motu ultralite > > and stuble across some unreliable videos of the card > on youtube, > > i hope they are exceptions! > > I'm also a fan of the Ultralite. I have the original > one (not the > Mark whatever). The thing I like most about it is the > flexible > routing. Since there so many channels with zero latency > monitoring, > you can set up monitor mixes and stereo effects loops and > still have > channels left over for computer IO. > > You can also use it without a computer. It takes a lot of > twisting > tiny multi-mode knobs, but it can be done. The Cuemix > software is > easy to use. Functionally it is very similar to the > RME-400. I'm > told the mic preamps aren't as good as the RME but > it's almost 1/2 the > cost. > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 15:13:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7EB83BE90; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3604 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:13:08 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0903110136q4857cf74vb27585a939d718fa@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:12:58 -0500 References: <49B73CCB.5050607@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0903110136q4857cf74vb27585a939d718fa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:13:08 +0000 (UTC) > > Well, there is actually a logical application for that, if he wants to > work with multi tap delay and have better control over each delay line > than you get with the classic tape delay machines. He doesn't use his 'Tide for delays. He uses his trusty army of 2290s and SDD 3000s instead.. > > > And I definitely see an interesting opening for the harmonizer in that > context - but I agree with you that The Edge rarely has been heard > playing harmonizer pitched sounds... So maybe he uses the harmonizer > for a chorus effect? Not so. He has a trademark "shimmer" sound that involves pitch shifting. Other songs with pitch shifting: Even Better Than the Real Thing, Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, Beautiful Day, Miracle Drug--and several others. Plus, pitch shifting is all over the new album. He does apparently use the 'Tide for backwards delays in some songs--City of Blinding Lights, and the newer intro. to One. Also, the main reason his rig is NASA-like is because he wants to replicate his album tones (over the span of nearly 30 years--and that's a lot of gear). But at any particular moment, his signal chain may (I stress the word *may* lol) be fairly short. Just sayin'. ;) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 15:21:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11E623BE89; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236784900; bh=SqP051kZbaRler2GuurACc8Kx6PAs7u7J8dBQd+8waw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4NnYe3J35p/47rmDvFBjltMZWMCTSLcbiiAR+R20FAnPxYazJx/NbXxEBshCkVsnvE7GF94jMtRupnDlilbs7KGUqfQjfxSsD2AzIlfbcxyQWbHdEI2nAc4Mp2a6T5HK4QE2KO9ey56gQAuACag+Jm6Fq6hSJai/gHXIHCq4vZI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zCq1uuONDBfGdiBYUZF1NazJdhhdRMRJ2ZpyKB1Uhvztjd0mZMZ/ybV5GMrL4F/gvC8+aNvqbZk+DChJ5ZSJLfj+2uoAQHZq9XqwlaGBpHtLrciO1KT9mfPEj8DoxWZuIWGR2oqiohqOIGs1bMs+qS4rv4mDEwZODnnAkhMSWa8=; Message-ID: <346009.54885.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Dy3UXKAVM1l9LnICu35PWVyfc7V2c8eCf.SFMyk9_5H6i8a3z9ngJjfYG87ihJ8eTGtqLZnFoaNv8ehDBCPoAIIoG4NY4SjMffCDcBGPOn5R.9wDW.GDpS7OIQTyPVI1zV80A54P5z73MBSjCoCJH3.JwQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 08:21:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT Distortion looping rig (DL4 in the AUX) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B74FE3.50005@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rick and DL4 users, it occurs to me that not many people use the DL4 in the aux send of a mixer,i myself tried it a long time ago and i didnt like the sound of it but i had a cheap mixer back then and havent bother to try it again since i use it as a delay stomp,how clean is the signal hooked up that way? cheers Luis > Towards that end, I put a Line 6 DL4 on the ground for > each of the > two mono lines I have in the pedal board (a mid/treble line > of pedals and a bass line of pedals) > So that I could make initial loops (even if it was just a > droney non-rhythmic guitar loop) > to free me to manipulate the timbre and rhythm of the > resultant noise with my > Looperlative which was at the very end of the chain. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 15:45:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A02FD3BE88; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:45:01 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, Keep in mind that Apogee dropped the support for Windows recently. http://news.apogeedigital.com/index.php/press-releases/43-press-releases/= 103-apogee-discontinues-windows-development And how many inputs do you need? I'm wondering why you would use both a M= ackie mixer and an Apogee if you can do it all with just an Ultralite? Ju= st curious ;) Yes, the Apogee Duet does have better pre-amps but I doubt = if that makes a big difference in a live situation. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 15:50:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 625813BE8B; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236786638; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=NTidX5XMXSEB3o8cXKubirUNEds=; b=fSE2khaHXlQJ95/bN4XeZtXOGKBTFrMz7bXa1+Vc4a8Toa8IY6gWl6eFKGDNC4mT HFf341RjuGnGDyDnQ+Ndul4PumN3gj6Jw9z9/Fb56HHyIiyMOCBa8jxmOXufidq8; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xBrzDzDFAAAA:8 a=Gvhswju9AAAA:8 a=JUU0MQsOreqCVXdQEj4A:9 a=pugQD7Pfi-w4YFzD3llNpwtT4jAA:4 a=w2JVS3UYN8sA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=tWwJyWeS-aUIG4OUsKMA:9 a=obwL8k01p-2z3NmvvfEA:7 a=02Z3NZQhHAEREtEgQNV9ziXc5swA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000d01c9a261$1f82e810$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000101c9a1fa$62ba1cf0$282e56d0$@com> Subject: Re: EJamming Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:50:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9A23F.97FED730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <396ADD.A.J1F.P39tJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:50:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9A23F.97FED730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hmmm, I don't know about that one Tony. It looks new and unfinished, at = least the website. It doesn't make sense to me. What I have used and it works great once you get over a learning curve = is http://ninjam.com/ I have had a few fun jams on this. And with Reaper it records everyones = part and you can remix later. Great sound to my ears. I want to do some = morewith it in my spare time, lol. ;) Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tony K=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:35 PM Subject: EJamming Anybody here tried the EJamming site for online collaboration?=20 =20 http://www.ejamming.com/home/ =20 Just curious as to what they mean by zero latency sync. Seems to me = it defies the laws of physics. =20 Tony ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9A23F.97FED730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hmmm, I don't know about that one Tony. = It looks=20 new and unfinished, at least the website. It doesn't make sense to=20 me.
 
What I have used and it works great = once you get=20 over a learning curve is http://ninjam.com/
 I have had a few fun jams on = this. And with=20 Reaper it records everyones part and you can remix later. Great sound to = my=20 ears. I want to do some morewith it in my spare time, lol. = ;)
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tony = K
To: Loopers-Delight =
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 = 11:35=20 PM
Subject: EJamming

Anybody here tried the EJamming site for online=20 collaboration?

 

http://www.ejamming.com/home/<= o:p>

 

Just curious as to what they mean by zero latency = sync.  Seems to me it defies the laws of physics.

 

Tony

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9A23F.97FED730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 16:06:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E11913BE8F; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=y9LvjbB+Da8kFXIIIatCEY6eS+XwTylCHW/iZpLJu20=; b=hG/nZtEPbsDVhU+3oCF8mOuMNAQQp2Fi5D+W2JmSTBLk7XFgIicgROZOKVMwlw/KHs F3ReP7ee5jwOI9mTjT0paAbbUxFQNUCchhLgMRJQ4Cxdqz3hmSs9kmL7nMKZBhYOJPXo d8SfznvZbposVYDDvtQ4VRz/RE08yfSpNgw7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=wW4rBLPCIm0BOO4HSzAg6gMYsUYNDsptIdWCvbsFh1h02XTlFioj6kHbkFBI3bclQQ gCpxu6jtR2By5xGgIS3DP8iFIiUSwICXKdWT3Our2L5H6Nx0y2yU+hWOAmLKpxrc8zy/ 5jw2gb/nkeL7GhCtpDSvWk8hGL10ZSmtRh+GI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000d01c9a261$1f82e810$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000101c9a1fa$62ba1cf0$282e56d0$@com> <000d01c9a261$1f82e810$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:06:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: EJamming From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:06:51 +0000 (UTC) I know a bunch of us have used NINJAM, very cool program. That's what we used when we did the online looping for Y2Ksomethingorother. Just wondering about ejamming. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > hmmm, I don't know about that one Tony. It looks new and unfinished, at > least the website. It doesn't make sense to me. > > What I have used and it works great once you get over a learning curve is > http://ninjam.com/ > =A0I have had a few fun jams on this. And with Reaper it records everyone= s > part and you can remix later. Great sound to my ears. I want to do some > morewith it in my spare time, lol. ;) > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tony K > To: Loopers-Delight > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 11:35 PM > Subject: EJamming > > Anybody here tried the EJamming site for online collaboration? > > > > http://www.ejamming.com/home/ > > > > Just curious as to what they mean by zero latency sync.=A0 Seems to me it > defies the laws of physics. > > > > Tony --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 16:08:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 413893BE8A; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qJhu5FAlBmqEOWAudjHVsnCSDCDYssR9kPcCQujkvws=; b=ogfmDZ59H5FPJV54BAaQ4YiBb8/ucCQQ713C75pfEYk3nobCpcypwseDKXzpeXGLZR lrVK53HZ3CviNtEdYhLo1TXgc+5FewqSuICuHTfYZHcIkQ/WAC6lYi/V9RBts9a7Z/ht llucoRS9i5ifC4i98Qs5qtNKVC9LqKftn9ok0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NhTdlNI+SMmVsYMOkcWR2rJGyRYkFVcUFh3I2LlxKtg9HuNl+3YlrAqEuSgxuyUGNs 3MNi4sbxRq8w9sH5ksbO3g7H5Z70wIHRUJ0wkZab//4crZWny1WCX6zy37aJNF+oZqWu cqrW9Jev6Ar010Mws9zeBCFPUr9GDaguy8sD4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:07:58 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903110907k4a12470bob8f410ac99eb4f24@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EJamming From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Jeff said (to Tony K): "What I have used and it works great once you get over a learning curve is http://ninjam.com/" Seriously, I don't believe Tony K needs that suggestion: http://www.krispenhartung.com/mp3.htm http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/RainerAndTony.mp3 ;) Most of the work of Chinapainting (a duo involving our own Daryl Shawn) was done that way, as well as everything here: http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7494 Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 16:14:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26AA83BE8D; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=p3MGbaPHdGCwzS12YUGqE7vivp8CCUJVlodMxfceiLE=; b=D95Cc95JVPAhv/rWQYG4qVzbrJ9pHHz3PAHVlRzRSP5TWdyRQLQJGP1d7MEvVQTPUG x1ZOGYhDF14MllTVHMY3PsklilMzPki3aDGQPBsRqSk9OuPzceJRUU00Or0wwotrc9ZG puaz1vCBpZewZmA1XeS6RHoW2b51XcpCByWCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QbcCSp9DT/ooAUfjRsqMCFt+n3PqepUhIgR6ZhJfzLfFbOGSbF7Xzt8ncGgwB5JQO9 UYw+OoOIzFGcNtI775z2sElbm6r3Hkc9BYDlx40xwoIQiGXwpFULfZn5U55i9Is/cspw RPK5ZMj+OS7xWAx8WLcE6+v/C1SVWB9oXfx9s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:14:57 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903110914u480badbeo9247db0aeee99128@mail.gmail.com> Subject: DL4 in the AUX From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Luis said: "it occurs to me that not many people use the DL4 in the aux send of a mixer,i myself tried it a long time ago and i didnt like the sound of it" The reason may be "gain structure": the DL4 (like most stompboxes) is designed to work well with a signal coming directly from a (passive) guitar - meaning low signal level and high source impedance in comparison to what a mixer gives you. Consequently, the outputs are of relatively low level as well. Add to that the fact that you don't have any kind of (analogue) level control on the device, and this may be the explanation you're looking for. I have been using the DL4 for some time (meaning: before switching to laptop) in an aux send configuration (into a mixer channel with gain control) without any problems - an information which may not be that useful to you for two reasons: a) the DL4 was not used for "clean" delays (or loops), only for that whacked up stuff. For the clean ones, my D2 (and Eclipse) served me well. b) I seem to remember that you have a somewhat specific definition of the concept of signal quality/integrity etc., and that I was once put in that "people who don't know the difference" bin, so even if I told you the signal sounds "clean", this would most probably not be of any use to you. All the best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 16:39:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AE973BE8F; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MFDNb9V/x7XcudHROWlEsvTtK2NOg4Yc8qLlJQk7OzI=; b=F/iNG+SlIIomJ974Q/ebZhJ0/NdvHszlDSARSuOPi+ojFyDvupPdP8Ut/tT0NOBRLO Fc3kiANsWmIyl7wPOcR96Qv37skcD4W8T1EVp30lCoKj6xo7sV/hcXYrSb8rdtu12M+M /ZCB0ha0CL76AuV2UJtNlaVA69i6XbeJHDigU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=t1xkgfcwhrZ8v5NNwbRwRdkFvPdYIOPAjSX4oC1CTi6ihTzKPWJOXz7wt+aK9ZPvTi xlDSxDWPigK6Jlg8Q9OCbvOZk600UKH7fo8DJ762SE2h9BxoznGqNANfKTJN/YLFAT3W ITPQ2OQLZe2oq27jCuypK84dM1kEx2LwX9iUg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:39:39 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903110939vb2f5345k3471176ccf20e541@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:39:40 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Ultrabeat drum patterns to Mobius loops. I also tried that and also found that UltraBeat is not accurate enough with a sync slaving MainStage. No bummer for me though, since I don't want to use canned drum beats anyway. The MainStage slave syncing to Mobius looper system I use that is stable only deals with audio input, midi input to drive virtual instruments, lots of audio effects on the patches channel strips, the Mobius looper on a bus (at concert level) plus some post looper effect on that bus and finally a multi compressor on the master output. That's the same looping rig I have been using for years starting with a Bidule session under Windows XP then rebuilding it in MainStage to expand the plug-ins with the SoundToys Native Bundle (Mac only stuff). "Drums" are either played on acoustic instruments or parroted by vocal sounds to be looped as audio. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 16:42:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 708FE3BE8F; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236789768; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=oTUlFC0xu1HjGTxMp0zz/O6jckE=; b=Doqh2wF1jMmFsN4AuJQLvqhx0/G9+zocfmhW8XhgI/prxRHaHAKipIChtEVaxS8m 9ju2VvbYjywteo6NL/FZhJWr3NsyvP3xoC5aQ3At+WFesUW8LEep4NJROFcjGDOj; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=xBrzDzDFAAAA:8 a=zQiYORMAAAAA:8 a=gycxc4XgAAAA:8 a=fkieF908AAAA:8 a=DPEpgS0R3SLIVZkh7RgA:9 a=M53ToFu4Zws-VLlnmbROkPvUc88A:4 a=cL1USlWNKO4A:10 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c9a268$6946b5b0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0903110907k4a12470bob8f410ac99eb4f24@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EJamming Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:42:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:42:49 +0000 (UTC) pardon my ignorance as I go back to lurk mode... j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 12:07 PM Subject: Re: EJamming > Jeff said (to Tony K): > "What I have used and it works great once you get over a learning > curve is http://ninjam.com/" > > Seriously, I don't believe Tony K needs that suggestion: > http://www.krispenhartung.com/mp3.htm > http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/RainerAndTony.mp3 > > ;) > > Most of the work of Chinapainting (a duo involving our own Daryl > Shawn) was done that way, as well as everything here: > http://www.jamendo.com/en/album/7494 > > Best, > > Rainer > > From BPOL@poste.it Wed Mar 11 16:54:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3415 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:54:35 UTC Received: from mail.CawleyChicago.com (mail.cawleychicago.com [66.244.186.75]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B0C33BE87; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:54:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([97.76.179.94]) by mail.CawleyChicago.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:00:36 -0500 Reply-To: From: "PosteItaliene" Subject: Diventa utente verificato - Poste Italiane Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 11:04:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2009 15:00:36.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[22A19160:01C9A25A] To: undisclosed-recipients:;

                                               
                                                   
 
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 17:25:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB0C73BE89; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:25:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:24:45 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: <78YEjB.A.RSC.HQ_tJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:25:27 +0000 (UTC) > 1) Mobius sends out a Start message when the first playback of the > first loop starts, but it doesn't appear to send out any particular > message at the start of a loop cycle. So if you don't catch that Start > message, all you have to hold on to is a series of Clock messages. Mobius out sync (copied from the EDP) is biased toward things that follow the MIDI transport control commands, mainly drum machines and sequencers. I'm finishing up a feature that lets you send arbitrary MIDI commands from scripts, in theory you could write a script that ends the recording and sends a MIDI note command to Ultrabeat at the same time. Ultrabeat then presumably ignores the Start but follows the clocks. If Ultrabeat can follow clocks without drifting then you shouldn't need an extra MIDI message on every cycle. We have however found several interesting use cases for "event scripts" over the years, scripts that are called automatically when certain things happen (loop, cycle, subcycle boundaries) rather than when pressing a switch. You can sort of do that with "Wait cycle" statements in scripts but it's awkward. That might be an option depending on what you want to do on cycle boundaries. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 17:30:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 942583BE8F; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:30:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=czzCFWVYHzGdQ7UecKTanyjOy+X1aq3Q1nNlN90r4zQ=; b=ONFlEL4DfjxZ3QYAwUeCNvU+3OTjkMDltlGnvkvgSs77hmjcYlqMRKgPEBZH97pqa0 WExEinEI4NxLEAO0ir3LORCorlSeCYJFV6liAJDMijWuSz5s0ULD+RVqJacnBujcemkD tlSk5j7a6smK2yPpPatzKZ2/BvFIaLfCcWOyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hhNjXKlbWAKBYT6kwR3kIIdGsP3L5MZvR3KsvEHd3/RqSNk/P6eDzRK469ORbYuhnj FvCOQMbPIBMHmQbf2+KbdwCPU3uXsmGz53+zSbGg/1ySqRaW30riNxzyDsxd02Ystowv yhuuZ1om/yYypPpZJOKztlmpoCGrwBZt8vV3Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:30:05 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Free Nord software From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:30:06 +0000 (UTC) For those of us who just can't get enough free virtual instruments.. a monophonic Nord G2. http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=oldproducts&clpm=Nord_Modular_G2&clnmm=Information -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 17:41:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E6B63BE8F; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rYn4bs5enXIlwoZwVdfQs0RTUaew4G/nOAYKBET4Uds=; b=i5RbzP9KI/7EsohbvvIdDXW7/FNByvN/wGH9YbTMmrOvnfmqbAI/sAn3NBPHUYsCr8 GvNGQUsyHeJdSFQ2uLO9xGl4Lg2xn8DTyC+4p15f3l+35jh0zEsGCbAJY+FNvfjqCV9D y6nxjgEnzrIHAU+MSywvdpuDl7S4SKyf1e5yk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=QLJtJrOnf3NJMWVqgSiosqJXioVTgcN9qAFyytDIQ5EWUfUwOIp0jSZ9kcMxpY0xx8 +101D0YkYQuN4VBVBWBPZDd3RjkoV0H5yus6Emg/9RE4bNyxCUgKDftLkqQqkwisVwDS hfh6urmlahLJK5x7BjhkWM9RPoX+lS1+M9N3U= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:41:50 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d96bf4965e05a881 Message-ID: <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jeff, Thanks for answering. Here's one reason why the ability to send some message on each cycle would be cool: suppose I want to bring in a beat synced to the loop only after I've layed down a few overdubs. How will I (or any sw agent for me) know when a cycle might start? I might check out the Wait Cycle script possibility that you mention, although I haven't played with scripts yet and am just getting my feet wet in the other capabilities of Mobius and this setup, so something that's "awkward" by your description might be a little much for me right now. More likely, for the present: i'll arrange for a drum loop (possibly in Live) to be triggered by the Start cmd, but i'll start it muted. then it should stay synced and be there when i'm ready to un-mute. Thanks, Warren On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote= : > >> 1) Mobius sends out a Start message when the first playback of the >> first loop starts, but it doesn't appear to send out any particular >> message at the start of a loop cycle. So if you don't catch that Start >> message, all you have to hold on to is a series of Clock messages. > > Mobius out sync (copied from the EDP) is biased toward things that > follow the MIDI transport control commands, mainly drum machines > and sequencers. =A0I'm finishing up a feature that lets you > send arbitrary MIDI commands from scripts, in theory you > could write a script that ends the recording and sends > a MIDI note command to Ultrabeat at the same time. =A0Ultrabeat > then presumably ignores the Start but follows the clocks. > > If Ultrabeat can follow clocks without drifting then you shouldn't > need an extra MIDI message on every cycle. =A0We have however > found several interesting use cases for "event scripts" over > the years, scripts that are called automatically when certain > things happen (loop, cycle, subcycle boundaries) rather than > when pressing a switch. =A0You can sort of do that with "Wait cycle" > statements in scripts but it's awkward. =A0That might be an option > depending on what you want to do on cycle boundaries. > > Jeff > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 17:47:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AC6E3BE94; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=m20VwcqcXTSuQSF5pfqVIEgk8x3InJvICpLgNUa+Yy3VpkKRYC6WeTtS63OOtbne1PaMtRQtS1hvZJ0kzLEeueJcGtH+G3zPGx5Ab5cV0eXoNM8McbjDRpbrN3EQE+ZSlhDf4FhkMKt9sR5CTce8e1xTjqwVbZmvUUKgXtKYCUI= ; X-YMail-OSG: 46EhzdYVM1kh5D3cyujYmmKr5GoB2JL82AkKEltJ6ePvqliPhiao1m_5DIkw241Hm9Bjz999f9gmR_a3408TLQqvwhgCkRhK7GX7Ow7goQ_tInO9GRGUrQHwEEc1KkwrtX1CUCRvY18BD2ALabhe_eOVGkBgY2NpnbWNwZF3lVnCsDHVlGo8hrlaBMMMUw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-788435928 From: Matt Stevens Subject: Inprovizone Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:47:53 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <6Fr9I.A.IJD.Nl_tJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:47:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-788435928 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello All Some hot looping action with improvizone on my blog http:// mattstevensguitar.blogspot.com/ - let us know what you think. Features guiar and vocal loops and some DL4 action. Really excellent trumpet. MS --Apple-Mail-3-788435928 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello All



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= --Apple-Mail-3-788435928-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 17:56:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 582423BE85; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3PPRM4uMyg+07oOnz2x8BCL8090prbzPzCemL7h2Dhs=; b=Xnj9Nrj6pEwqs3mfuvEKa3bc0e29z2ErwD7EvQPDkRzpc6t7ImBfIAZCmhdNOLN5oM GVtCSGyQaSw0CnFnOtRDWWLgMiMiiMdZvvVgPaC6CcoVogDieIhLPLGvX4HKswz4aCw5 pp/7L+gJol9isl/oGCNyyFGM8P+39to8ubJHI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=R8QtjAvlej/XPcF/XE/F9Yh1+pz6buCgSOooaGiR26e7lo3oEF+xuSyVOn75u9qrZv Fs7SEayw4hBWVw2EPgKkn2PxNyWjD9ZYP83Atgjl0v5W0t1/iV6alDjCcHsi9YuXLiE3 pB6oWxOhHl4VwKqrh+o48UKa+OHiaGwni5+1I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <49B73CCB.5050607@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0903110136q4857cf74vb27585a939d718fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:56:40 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e3b402dbc30464db9781 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:56:42 +0000 (UTC) --00504502e3b402dbc30464db9781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if he had to carry that box on his shoulders he would quickly abandon that necessity ... and forget those 30 years ;-) ... laptop power! 2009/3/11 Jeff Shirkey > >> Well, there is actually a logical application for that, if he wants to >> work with multi tap delay and have better control over each delay line >> than you get with the classic tape delay machines. >> > > He doesn't use his 'Tide for delays. He uses his trusty army of 2290s and > SDD 3000s instead.. > > >> >> And I definitely see an interesting opening for the harmonizer in that >> context - but I agree with you that The Edge rarely has been heard >> playing harmonizer pitched sounds... So maybe he uses the harmonizer >> for a chorus effect? >> > > Not so. He has a trademark "shimmer" sound that involves pitch shifting. > Other songs with pitch shifting: Even Better Than the Real Thing, Sometimes > You Can't Make It On Your Own, Beautiful Day, Miracle Drug--and several > others. Plus, pitch shifting is all over the new album. He does apparently > use the 'Tide for backwards delays in some songs--City of Blinding Lights, > and the newer intro. to One. > > Also, the main reason his rig is NASA-like is because he wants to replicate > his album tones (over the span of nearly 30 years--and that's a lot of > gear). But at any particular moment, his signal chain may (I stress the word > *may* lol) be fairly short. > > Just sayin'. ;) > > Jeff > > -- Raul Bonell at blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com --00504502e3b402dbc30464db9781 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if he had to carry that box on his shoulders he would quickly abandon that = necessity ... and forget those 30 years ;-) ... laptop power!

2009/3/11 Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net>

Well, there is actually a logical application for that, if he wants to
work with multi tap delay and have better control over each delay line
than you get with the classic tape delay machines.

He doesn't use his 'Tide for delays. He uses his trusty army of 229= 0s and SDD 3000s instead..




And I definitely see an interesting opening for the harmonizer in that
context - but I agree with you that The Edge rarely has been heard
playing harmonizer pitched sounds... So maybe he uses the harmonizer
for a chorus effect?

Not so. He has a trademark "shimmer" sound that involves pitch sh= ifting. Other songs with pitch shifting: Even Better Than the Real Thing, S= ometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own, =A0Beautiful Day, Miracle Drug-= -and several others. Plus, pitch shifting is all over the new album. He doe= s apparently use the 'Tide for backwards delays in some songs--City of = Blinding Lights, and the newer intro. to One.

Also, the main reason his rig is NASA-like is because he wants to replicate= his album tones (over the span of nearly 30 years--and that's a lot of= gear). But at any particular moment, his signal chain may (I stress the wo= rd *may* lol) be fairly short.

Just sayin'. ;)

Jeff




--
Raul Bonell at b= logger: http://raulbonell.blogsp= ot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http= ://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
--00504502e3b402dbc30464db9781-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 19:19:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C64E43BE8D; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:19:31 -0500 Subject: RE: choosing between these soundcards for laptop Thread-Topic: choosing between these soundcards for laptop Thread-Index: AcmiW9KMdIOYoMi/RVChSdFGJ5btMAAHqSKw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA314F4@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <37CE4DD6-9D5F-4B4D-9A7A-2A6D2958E25B@zonemobius.com> <713540.3521.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <713540.3521.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:19:34 +0000 (UTC) > Jeff ive also been checking out the Apogee duet. > what are your thoughts on that one? I thought it was overpriced and inflexible and I hated the breakout cable. What you're paying for is the legendary Apogee quality. Their analog/digital converters are very well regarded in pro studios and I assume the mic preamps are also very good. But it's just a 2 in 2 out audio interface, is it really worth $400 more than something like this? http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-USB-Dual-Pre?sku=3D703092 If you're interested in high quality studio recording the answer may be yes, but for live use I doubt anyone could tell the difference. It seems well suited for someone that already has a mixer and just wants to get the stereo mix into the computer. I wanted to have the mixer and audio interface combined into one device. That's what I like so much about the Ultralite and RME, they're basically little digital mixers that also happen to be computer audio interfaces. They also have a MIDI port for the FCB1010, if you went with Apogee then you'd have to drag along another USB MIDI interface. =20 I love the way the Duet looks but the breakout cable just ruins it. What a mess. If you have it sitting next to a laptop on a table then the wires are going to dangle off the edge of the table and you're instrument connections will be hanging in the air. Step on a cable the right way and you get a disconnect. You would have to scoop all this crap up and duct tape it to the table to provide stress relief for the connections. I'm sure it sounds outstanding but the design just looks silly for live use. =20 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 19:37:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3FD63BE90; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:37:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:37:57 -0500 Subject: RE: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions Thread-Topic: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions Thread-Index: AcmicKs/b35Text0Tx2gF8Xw6WYV7QADtxnw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA3150E@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:37:59 +0000 (UTC) [Warren] > Here's one reason why the ability to send some > message on each cycle would be cool: suppose I want to bring in a beat > synced to the loop only after I've layed down a few overdubs. How will > I (or any sw agent for me) know when a cycle might start?=20 I see. There are several ways to do this, well once I get the MIDISend function implemented for scripts there will be. You either write a script and quantize it to a cycle or you use Wait. The first method would look something like this: !name Trigger Beat Next Cycle !quantize MIDISend note 42 The !quantize says that the script should be run at the next quantization point defined by the Quantize preset parameter. You would have to have Quantize set to Cycle. The other method would look like this: !name Trigger Beat Next Cycle Wait cycle MIDISend note 42 This doesn't have a dependency on the Quantize parameter. If you always want to trigger on a cycle boundary the second is probably best. The first is best if you want to adjust the quantization point live without modifying the script. If you're interested in this I'll try to get the new version with MIDISend uploaded in the next few days. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 19:48:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C973B3BE95; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:48:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:48:57 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:48:50 -0500 References: <49B73CCB.5050607@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0903110136q4857cf74vb27585a939d718fa@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:48:57 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 11, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > if he had to carry that box on his shoulders he would quickly > abandon that necessity ... and forget those 30 years ;-) ... laptop > power! Yeah, no kidding! But it's good to be The Edge. He doesn't even have to plug in his own guitars, much less carry the gear. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 19:49:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E696B3BE98; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:49:39 -0500 Subject: RE: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions Thread-Topic: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions Thread-Index: AcmicKs/b35Text0Tx2gF8Xw6WYV7QAEakMQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31521@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:49:40 +0000 (UTC) [Warren] > More likely, for the present: i'll arrange for a drum loop (possibly > in Live) to be triggered by the Start cmd, but i'll start it muted. > then it should stay synced and be there when i'm ready to un-mute. There's something else that might work. One of the Sync Mode values is "Out User Start", another thing I copied from the EDP. This will start sending clocks when the loop is closed but it doesn't send a Start message. When you're ready to trigger the drum loop use the "Start Song" function. This will wait until the loop start point then send a MIDI Start message. This would avoid having to mess with track mutes in Live, the downside is that it is always quantized to the loop start point, you can't make it start on an interior cycle boundary. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 20:18:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65ADF3BE8C; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:18:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XZR7RljvxzdDw4bDapPVM0jAUwVQvwcj41zlpV1mTqU=; b=DM6Ox9u6Ru/y2GyMfiDlGyzIhVKV6IlrFAEN2I9/JnZ9um8slg4bDC8MyoizpIjodQ mEYrc3h1aIQaAuVAdwYCKp0ZOqFzeqLcEg3WHHBAPu4LL55kQ92J3Gwg5137uAnUm9Bm IhN1wt6ErU10GiukblOGsgFsi7swy2yVgq9Dk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YFIYaeYkMXcflq465ZAGAed/r0L3s8J/senEEEFq/QcqGdKcNlP4q69cO9KNLw0ikA 5C9N390GVDYzQxg761V1binWqe42i5t0u76G3VSYTBGuPC44KTa2YO8dRMJ/KJEfhzW6 Su4J90XpxpRP8C4MTnQ9X8AHCWNw1NI05yl14= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31521@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31521@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:18:24 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7b5ec95f1efbd7b1 Message-ID: <101191640903111318s18f6d128lc6265804f62db350@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:18:25 +0000 (UTC) that might be a good way for me to go - wouldn't force you into a prerelease of MidiSend, or require me to get scripts working. the loop vs. cycle start point issue would definitely be livable for a while. thx. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > [Warren] >> More likely, for the present: i'll arrange for a drum loop (possibly >> in Live) to be triggered by the Start cmd, but i'll start it muted. >> then it should stay synced and be there when i'm ready to un-mute. > > There's something else that might work. =A0One of the Sync Mode values > is "Out User Start", another thing I copied from the EDP. =A0This will > start sending clocks when the loop is closed but it doesn't send a > Start message. =A0When you're ready to trigger the drum loop use the > "Start Song" function. =A0This will wait until the loop start point then > send a MIDI Start message. > > This would avoid having to mess with track mutes in Live, the downside > is that it is always quantized to the loop start point, you can't make > it start on an interior cycle boundary. > > Jeff > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 20:28:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42C2E3BE8F; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236803306; bh=WagTdUBXqAc0bD663p2V9KU3yeqBnx+gauL40YrP/E0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xTbpzbSx12PZeonUUhzKHLGO9lJplU1l3wYvgKPVHyN04yhpbqe+ZzL6lWbuypVJjizMDtebse6Z7Md5fZecmwNgIh8lFjRXYHE20u/tFG5JAU8if+ogqDmy4qRH3jk1rsS8cFTybw4/vwkMlyaF12ZtTXYWQxeqhUT/JNrR3Sg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3lpGRUPv4/wd/9WruOb/oFGqEogbjY+ui7EtMgmvYrgKRPr0BtmauGD6Ecee+qHNyD8rz5WXrcVdBq9LemfdYfptnhDYlKnExnKjWa/ixro2krOnTgeTZyZpDUpL7YEtVo7gwzcWvq3TO/iqLDoHwBb8R0roiXrcAc/l6XZJOgU=; Message-ID: <100732.17727.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UIWxRY0VM1lROj2pBtjsxpxEMtLZOxOlnBrgtQJVP4C1BB2k6LZxbKfvAp9Y2LKqWUzZFReBJDd0dGxn_hTy8ExIT_f5BV92dtG9rHYBijSs3xASRGHuA6cZhfjyEoVhkoXgcP6usAmshAgI1wWmnDxPk9x7n61vgV_yPTNX1DCbE0hQfCds9sDkWyMQ_jQAwNO6mknu X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: choosing between these soundcards for laptop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA314F4@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:28:27 +0000 (UTC) thanx after all my instincts were right inspite of my ignorance about it it does look messy;-) www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 3/11/09, Jeff Larson wrote: > From: Jeff Larson > Subject: RE: choosing between these soundcards for laptop > To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" > Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 12:19 PM > > Jeff ive also been checking out the Apogee duet. > > what are your thoughts on that one? > > I thought it was overpriced and inflexible and I hated the > breakout > cable. What you're paying for is the legendary Apogee > quality. Their > analog/digital converters are very well regarded in pro > studios and I > assume the mic preamps are also very good. > > But it's just a 2 in 2 out audio interface, is it > really worth $400 > more than something like this? > > http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-USB-Dual-Pre?sku=703092 > > If you're interested in high quality studio recording > the answer may > be yes, but for live use I doubt anyone could tell the > difference. > > It seems well suited for someone that already has a mixer > and just > wants to get the stereo mix into the computer. I wanted to > have the > mixer and audio interface combined into one device. > That's what I > like so much about the Ultralite and RME, they're > basically little > digital mixers that also happen to be computer audio > interfaces. They > also have a MIDI port for the FCB1010, if you went with > Apogee then > you'd have to drag along another USB MIDI interface. > > I love the way the Duet looks but the breakout cable just > ruins it. > What a mess. If you have it sitting next to a laptop on a > table then > the wires are going to dangle off the edge of the table and > you're > instrument connections will be hanging in the air. Step on > a cable > the right way and you get a disconnect. You would have to > scoop > all this crap up and duct tape it to the table to provide > stress > relief for the connections. > > I'm sure it sounds outstanding but the design just > looks silly for > live use. > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 20:37:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C36BE3BE8A; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236803829; bh=d2qVoR8aAcTc060f8MIQeJ3mrQwEHYdPQaib2jFqVFE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=W6SlXyeFDH5FSAOHje7esPg14gn4jODGzZWh4RENvi2VIIswpxB2+trPWwqCwE6vPmaAGuvRe6aj8an2sdspL3ZuYpEqWgA/BLrA2Bce6uwy47jKj9Acq3I7vCKzdmQ/HcAjAWLxvNR3KVERBEypg//AjtegY9GHE+dcMh+3dSg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ej5QCbthLbdTcrIlmwvvZVre77qIdBsjIW6WA3/9mHNfk35S0F8rv3/wj1T+6mGn4VT5sDk52KIk6KJQ3JyE8dwgi+rJzXTccBKAvAQiYGzajzPclURKsGqp3ttVzSxsrG/5m69q1zyoDI+YeTaw58K6jBf5esq3ZJ2JUwBAaO8=; Message-ID: <115918.21543.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KxAZ4oYVM1m88ut79ncht0ghaK1eNYRl4Qlz5rAvMISOgtq_eGVBjnYeMhKbGBuzQd_YmL9ha7SyQZqR4_WuFi8By0BEMDFxXa7Rrutac27LcYhAxtFfoUjMBpbCAmHDSHraJb1sFgT7hqHbVGoJrM_124ZbYLU7Xl_7KA2IrmYVjzNzSGQXjjpBUFiTXaxTNi3GGhk5VthBLFpw_2BI0Fq5XSky4M3GoKVzG5n5Cw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:37:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:37:09 +0000 (UTC) yes you are right,but i use the soundcard in the aux send of the mixer and = dont use its preamps so i just use its stereo outs,i use the mackie because= live is a lot more intuitive getting my hands on a board accessing their e= qs aux sends etc. than clicking with a mouse or scrolling a digital wheel j= ust to turn levels down, however yes the motu seems ideal for any situation= specially playing Y2K looping festivals;-)in worst case you can still use = it as a stand alone and have the FX etc.so look out you might see me with o= ne at the festivals! the lack of midi in the Apogee and no Windwos support hast just killed it f= or me! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 3/11/09, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re: choosing between these soundcards for laptop > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 8:45 AM > Hi Luis, > Keep in mind that Apogee dropped the support for Windows > recently. >=20 > http://news.apogeedigital.com/index.php/press-releases/43-press-releases/= 103-apogee-discontinues-windows-development >=20 > And how many inputs do you need? I'm wondering why you > would use both a Mackie mixer and an Apogee if you can do it > all with just an Ultralite? Just curious ;) Yes, the Apogee > Duet does have better pre-amps but I doubt if that makes a > big difference in a live situation. > --- > Sjaak > http://euroloopfest.com/ > http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ > http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw >=20 >=20 > __________________________________ > Scarlet schrapt download limiet! > ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =E2=82=AC 29,95. > Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info!=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 20:45:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DFE43BE93; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LpRF2PFSVLukSJ7sBQJXAECLOLJPNlioS8kBoq2zpnU=; b=u55FcoDpCkLS6o4c1RD4gQ2+CDtenM5ih5kNT3xf45dm3BzfAaTgeqMeHwq32Ls1yO BTaoV3lWp/iFYH+0KZcPvDjR3b2C8+U4fVzzHoCF4cPfMyds4znqOCODLYLGKWI09SrY pgJ3/LuCoXLRJVBOdRa6+6gBpzxVylk6Ebcjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LsbgRO/uEe1NT23KDBvwgGxT2HajZb2DVX0l6WOSmrpPzgoGDCysiJaJtZCJmclLNg SA+GDTZH2rWowSNulv3CeUZthFhVjnzh6ssJlmqfmiD8FWUcHQ5SpECNM0gOAqkl7rup zEVXZZwUroQ4AsZ77Wvq/+9DowhDeJbhBclo0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640903111318s18f6d128lc6265804f62db350@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31521@barq.sailpoint.com> <101191640903111318s18f6d128lc6265804f62db350@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:45:45 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903111345x6b5e10abs26e8e6cdb90cf3e5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9OMVGC.A.twD.5LCuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Eh, guys... isn't Warren hosting the drum sequencer (UltraBeat) in MainStage? Meaning whatever sync signal sent out from the Mobius plug-in will target MainStage first hand. Plus Ableton Live, if he runs that application too, in parallel. If this presumption is correct, it would be best to only send one start command as the MIDI Clock starts being sent out from Mobius ("sync =3D out" that is?). The way to bring in a drum pattern could then be one of two ways: (1) un-mute the drum thingy (that is running with the host all from the start) or (2) start with an empty pattern running inside UltraBeat and simply switch to a pattern with notes in it when it's about time. Then the quantizing will happen in the drum sequence plug-in (as it is designed for, which may be a good point) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Warren Sirota wrot= e: > that might be a good way for me to go - wouldn't force you into a > prerelease of MidiSend, or require me to get scripts working. the loop > vs. cycle start point issue would definitely be livable for a while. > thx. > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >> [Warren] >>> More likely, for the present: i'll arrange for a drum loop (possibly >>> in Live) to be triggered by the Start cmd, but i'll start it muted. >>> then it should stay synced and be there when i'm ready to un-mute. >> >> There's something else that might work. =A0One of the Sync Mode values >> is "Out User Start", another thing I copied from the EDP. =A0This will >> start sending clocks when the loop is closed but it doesn't send a >> Start message. =A0When you're ready to trigger the drum loop use the >> "Start Song" function. =A0This will wait until the loop start point then >> send a MIDI Start message. >> >> This would avoid having to mess with track mutes in Live, the downside >> is that it is always quantized to the loop start point, you can't make >> it start on an interior cycle boundary. >> >> Jeff >> >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 20:45:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A08A3BEB6; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236804357; bh=ltjBPZUMPGYcrh6KY6UsnnC3dpzwFkb2rvq3zliUsUY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CnqIN5yB6euTjSiiGV2CT4R0KVxYJuIoUPejfxgStM1JqAV9QbLqG5aNyJhx5KHCy6LwcPLyipY4CJuI/hGzAi+GU7R7BYYSwi2MrMDsG5Ok/+Fj4aUxkKyptdhG5JS0mHAq7wmMpjnJOMT4FN2syCaqiq/tmLzwUsQkG0wk82I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wlENdjWd2b+TDZu7HLgjJie10RQGHJWAALZPyUXW5UtZdMgyu4viskTIJeeiugrSPhI8+SNHypJVGd5W3lhp+cMyvKUAvdTdHhl1kQzpeh4d2m/x9R8TJhcQ1UXpVCZf6GApACdoLURHIgJjRRLBgRKCBjIB3EDsb+93t2jPpk8=; Message-ID: <338897.61865.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QQzfLdoVM1lkH32A_O5Nqfcc3Jz.JZlVXMS8IeuI5nDDDT_w.E1rJ7Y4Rv6tT3snE1hvTWxFRyBYdr9oIu5n8NFlpTCyQIjlLZhFziYGxOFu0kps6_Xjwb7bGHnkjQZxB6y3eWz0mDAwGvwh5ScxXijFdg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:45:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <101191640903111318s18f6d128lc6265804f62db350@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5yOyQB.A.20D.GMCuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Hey Jeff, i remember trying this out but when i press on start song in mobius the wor= d syncronize would just show on the UI and it wouldnt start the drumbox,am = i missing something? > > There's something else that might work. =A0One of > the Sync Mode values > > is "Out User Start", another thing I copied > from the EDP. =A0This will > > start sending clocks when the loop is closed but it > doesn't send a > > Start message. =A0When you're ready to trigger the > drum loop use the > > "Start Song" function. =A0This will wait > until the loop start point then > > send a MIDI Start message. >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 21:18:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9B7E3BE90; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:18:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 609 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:18:58 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=NT1ibVpmvYtZuR6WikijrnUNTiv4anqMjOYn6RHU7ca5QGsXVA3oEMwq3riiwN1t; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <2718927.1236805729045.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:08:48 -0400 (EDT) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e51960688e62851ef7bff56bcca9cbe4bc22d633e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:18:58 +0000 (UTC) I'm sure this has been posted here sometime in the past. but you sent me off to rediscover: http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-How-a-Technical-Failure-at-a-U2-Gig-will-sound -----Original Message----- >From: Rick Walker >Sent: Mar 11, 2009 12:23 AM >To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) > >The Edge has 8 rack mounted digital delays and >and Eventide Harmonizer, which I'm sure he used mostly for >...........................delay > > >hmmmmmm, do you think that he hangs his entire aesthetic on digital delay? > > >This is hilarious and yet made me feel better about owning 10 or 12 >distortion pedals. >..........speaking of the devil, I took my new stomp box, distortion >oriented >board out last night and test drove it at a Noise and Rhythm show for >the very first time >but that's another self indulgent Off Topic >post.................... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 21:56:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A55B3BE87; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=QRpzWJaSaXlTtVst1Hd56z9VD/FEz3w9aplb8kcujP8=; b=R4omhQ2PEJOXwe9O+eW2MRuWLNHNzm799EHrzRbhaMO7rD9obINHdJPXW1eyTtU/l3 HjjJnqxuBpR3M/ztQD/6YfNEImrxmjvoG84P+6kizMgmeQPN0jy/uNjZ6axeEtSwOIC6 Tp/psCt5f6+4cHwQCNA1MHg+KCpVtPtJbvVC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gVCz/JX8PWvCdPCcVvYzjxoTsbQTh+g+KiDns6aSbBxubyfbYBz79X9vxtlSfN3zIp zSgrYnzg8veXk1wvI7e/b9k60HfIjzbpo+X/3oDrPbtfNIU7CfnMJ7fcwyo4G/OwV7/J BE6poGq0BG97h0keo2BrNTliQ5YJlo/vdyhKA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903111345x6b5e10abs26e8e6cdb90cf3e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <101191640903091132g69bc85e8s6606ab70e9e058b8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903091150q2be6e78fj2d4d60be8d9c9517@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903110637m73f44367o6c9ad66e783c90ed@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903111041h223322c4m6e5a19dd828502ad@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31521@barq.sailpoint.com> <101191640903111318s18f6d128lc6265804f62db350@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903111345x6b5e10abs26e8e6cdb90cf3e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:56:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 276782326d4bb507 Message-ID: <101191640903111456h7ffdad33hc1f3fdff18b22e41@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Live 8 Beta Looper and Mainstage together - first impressions From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7itHcC.A.4_G.QODuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:56:32 +0000 (UTC) good ideas and points. i know that i'm throwing around a stew of things in a confusing way, but that's because i'm trying a lot of things to see what works. in the long run, i probably won't run Ultrabeat patterns in Mainstage - i'll probably program some midi pattern clips in Live that I will play using the Ultrabeat sounds, in order to be able to add more real-time variation to the output by processing the midi stream with midi fx (or i'll use the x-groover "probabilistic drummer" that came as a Max 5 sample to send midi to ultrabeat or maybe to a sampler instrument). So, would a Start command coming from the Song Start function in the middle of a stream of clocks confuse any of that? I will experiment and see. The empty pattern idea is a pretty good idea. but it may take me a couple of days to try these things out - i have a jazz gig on friday and there's rust all over my fingers - too much configurin', not enough playin' lately. On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Eh, guys... isn't Warren hosting the drum sequencer (UltraBeat) in > MainStage? Meaning whatever sync signal sent out from the Mobius > plug-in will target MainStage first hand. Plus Ableton Live, if he > runs that application too, in parallel. If this presumption is > correct, it would be best to only send one start command as the MIDI > Clock starts being sent out from Mobius ("sync =3D out" that is?). The > way to bring in a drum pattern could then be one of two ways: (1) > un-mute the drum thingy (that is running with the host all from the > start) or (2) start with an empty pattern running inside UltraBeat and > simply switch to a pattern with notes in it when it's about time. Then > the quantizing will happen in the drum sequence plug-in (as it is > designed for, which may be a good point) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Warren Sirota wr= ote: >> that might be a good way for me to go - wouldn't force you into a >> prerelease of MidiSend, or require me to get scripts working. the loop >> vs. cycle start point issue would definitely be livable for a while. >> thx. >> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Jeff Larson = wrote: >>> [Warren] >>>> More likely, for the present: i'll arrange for a drum loop (possibly >>>> in Live) to be triggered by the Start cmd, but i'll start it muted. >>>> then it should stay synced and be there when i'm ready to un-mute. >>> >>> There's something else that might work. =A0One of the Sync Mode values >>> is "Out User Start", another thing I copied from the EDP. =A0This will >>> start sending clocks when the loop is closed but it doesn't send a >>> Start message. =A0When you're ready to trigger the drum loop use the >>> "Start Song" function. =A0This will wait until the loop start point the= n >>> send a MIDI Start message. >>> >>> This would avoid having to mess with track mutes in Live, the downside >>> is that it is always quantized to the loop start point, you can't make >>> it start on an interior cycle boundary. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Warren >> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 >> http://www.warrensirota.com >> >> > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 22:15:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C28CB3BE88; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B837DF.8010806@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:14:55 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: OT Distortion looping rig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) to respond to two posts: Rainer wrote, about the Devi Ever Eye of God "At the risk of sounding overtly arrogant-fatherly: I just took a look at the product site of devi ever.......Which means, this is (as you also state), this is basically somedynamic feedback loop controller." Yeah, Rainer, I was in such a hurry to get to soundcheck that I didn't have time to go to the website and with four unmarked input/outputs I couldn't get it to work. I had assumed that it was a built in analogue delay with feedback connected to the photo eye but it is, as you say, even hipper than that. You need to put another stomp box effect into the upper 'loop' to get it to do anything. The cool news is that a Fuzz box sounds amazing through it; a digital delay, a radical modulation effect (like the Line 6 Modulation Pedal). I wrote to Shawn Cleary, the really nice and generous spirited guy who I've corresponded with at Analogue Haven (buy your pedals from this outfit, I've been very happy with them) and he politely sent me to the same page you went to............ I got it working now and it's really, really cool...........especially in the manipulation of feedback and distortion effects. **************** Luis wrote: " Hey Rick and DL4 users, it occurs to me that not many people use the DL4 in the aux send of a mixer,i myself tried it a long time ago and i didnt like the sound of it but i had a cheap mixer back then and havent bother to try it again since i use it as a delay stomp,how clean is the signal hooked up that way?" I myself, tried using the DL4 in my Aux send and didn't like it. Normally, I use an insert channel on my mixing board to create a loop for my effects but in this set up , I wanted real time control over the physical feedback of the little amplifiers I'm using, so I ran the whole board into a the amp and mic-d the amp. Then I routed the mic channels to my LP-1 (which I am just in love with, by the way) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 22:15:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CF703BE98; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:15:04 -0500 Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Thread-Topic: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Thread-Index: Acmijv+INLI6Ca/cTna6CdJk4i0dHAAB4iBg Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA3158C@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <2718927.1236805729045.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <2718927.1236805729045.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:15:07 +0000 (UTC) > I'm sure this has been posted here sometime in the past. but you sent > me off to rediscover: > http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-How-a-Technical-Failure-at-a-U= 2-Gig-will-sound=20 How the hell have I managed to live this long without knowing about Bill Bailey? Thank you! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 22:31:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 076753BE8B; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=ZN6rQ2+jOkAinBuLmaW2mVZHGxGXqBmk5585mPIhjHU0DuIMoUkytEG4zOw1eynW; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <6087985.1236810678646.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:31:18 -0400 (EDT) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e51960688d330e4ff4bed2b210f84315ed9b043e4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:31:18 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKtxg1D7vZw and to keep it somewhat on-topic, isn't Kraftwerk one giant loop anyway? Worth the 2'33" for the exit att he end. -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Larson >Sent: Mar 11, 2009 6:15 PM >To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" >Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) > > >> I'm sure this has been posted here sometime in the past. but you sent >> me off to rediscover: >> http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-How-a-Technical-Failure-at-a-U2-Gig-will-sound > >How the hell have I managed to live this long without knowing >about Bill Bailey? Thank you! > >Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 22:43:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B95B23BE8B; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:43:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <34FD4D87-AD4B-41F6-AEAF-507A606FA993@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: free performance tonight in san jose Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:43:13 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Server-Quench: 02350c46-0e8e-11de-8156-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRcfTcfHRpo UEhAUlBQHgFrCx0E SB8cTBh3chtEeWBx Z0Z9XHVZWVt6Oxh/ MDMMYTZBZWZlbGgb HkFadAAacAFJex8W blZiVCYFNHgGZy41 Wl9qYm50ZW0GcXQI TlpSclkbV0gREzN0 Xx0YEzI1GEQDTCh7 MxsgK1EcAA4QNA0p OF1pW1UDPndp X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1378/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:43:16 +0000 (UTC) hi loopers, i am newly arrived from my australian tour (4 performances at the sydney opera house!) and a little wacked with jetlag, but i wanted to tell you this, since i know many of you are in the south bay area... i'm performing tonight at the etech conference at the san jose fairmont. i just got word that i can invite people, and you can come for free. so, if you're in the area, here are the deets: 7pm fairmont hotel imperial ballroom san jose TONIGHT (wednesday) (if anyone asks you when you come in, say you're here for my performance) also, tonights performance will be recorded in laser by the velodyne lidar system (as in radiohead's house of cards video). my best, zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 22:54:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFAFC3BE92; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:54:49 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236811689; bh=ehi2W0WXcQ28ayIt8gk8/xEqCDUVhtj6P2c8Xp9Wy2k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sly90YuFCCS8cpfhdsRtTRTphcu3SiTbGvB5oyRoE1zKGYmqpncaTTmjoJteX5dys/iSJ4B2CExTnWUz7rcwhHLv+JrVXMS+Hs/i7fb3iDYQxKlzPs73zWGiVVO5KUs7gqtwdRmMg7xMmEn5SKV9hiCWXii0pgvOQjUZaRce5Vo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JbrjHtEECfXZ1eV1lt19uOt0p0b9vRfYLaL1elibwPuLQmydC0agsvjI8Dxv3MQccyvYEBulQ/FjeqVjEFITXHU4rp/KZhUefLdeyi7/N6lyImqvPnmG+wgWq1hE1WkxIWcw0xNW3QWJBYrf7TP/wZ7L6YPk9ekBuq/iUUsbaps=; Message-ID: <762239.13705.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .xzWAycVM1kQHsM9.rqPkiY7DwkyVp23qgpklrbgyoFAUttaY8YrhypNCgJ0gC75Zog7IdibAX9w7pHO6bKNykGxtHbi7_NdGFFzzl9fQqAQmt3Shw3xnXctAZOCNmyNBHjfeM_7xoZmn.9cV51SF6_Q7VRXzsF7JPXkfXii3AanTrWwmVAqf4XNy6y9vGFk X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:48:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Reply-To: jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6087985.1236810678646.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-206965569-1236811689=:13705" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:54:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-206965569-1236811689=:13705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who was the weenie who felt compelled to put (of Gear) into the heading?=20 =A0 --- On Wed, 3/11/09, synchro1 wrote: From: synchro1 Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 3:31 PM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLKtxg1D7vZw=20 and to keep it somewhat on-topic, isn't Kraftwerk one giant loop anyway?=20 Worth the 2'33" for the exit att he end. -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Larson >Sent: Mar 11, 2009 6:15 PM >To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" >Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) > > >> I'm sure this has been posted here sometime in the past. but you sent >> me off to rediscover: >> http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-How-a-Technical-Failure-at-a-U2-= Gig-will-sound > >How the hell have I managed to live this long without knowing >about Bill Bailey? Thank you! > >Jeff > =0A=0A=0A --0-206965569-1236811689=:13705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Who was the weenie who felt compelled to= put (of Gear) into the heading?
 


--- On Wed, 3/11/09, synchro1 <synchro1@ix.netcom.com= > wrote:
From: synchro1 <synchro1@ix.netcom.com>
Subj= ect: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR)
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com
Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 3:31 PM

http://www.y=
outube.com/watch?v=3DLKtxg1D7vZw=20

and to keep it somewhat on-topic, isn't Kraftwerk one giant loop anyway?=20
Worth the 2'33" for the exit att he end.

-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>
>Sent: Mar 11, 2009 6:15 PM
>To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com"
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR)
>
>
>> I'm sure this has been posted here sometime in the past. but you
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>> me off to rediscover:
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http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-How-a-Technical-Failure-at-a-U2-=
Gig-will-sound

>
>How the hell have I managed to live this long without knowing
>about Bill Bailey?  Thank you!
>
>Jeff
>

=0A=0A --0-206965569-1236811689=:13705-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 23:00:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 069B83BE97; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B842A5.8080902@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:00:53 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) References: <762239.13705.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <762239.13705.qm@web38408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:00:58 +0000 (UTC) (raising hand) Just wanted to avoid any further disappointment by those looking for racks of a kind which are neither connected via 1/4" cables, nor found on the heads of reindeer, nor available anywhere else on the internet except through furtively shared links via this group. weenily, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Who was the weenie who felt compelled to put (of Gear) into the heading? > > > > --- On *Wed, 3/11/09, synchro1 //* wrote: > > From: synchro1 > Subject: RE: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 23:11:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB6B03BE92; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3614 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:11:22 UTC Message-id: <640F18EE-E2CD-4818-8D01-5D2346DFBEBC@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <2718927.1236805729045.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT: monstrous Racks (of GEAR) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:11:03 -0500 References: <2718927.1236805729045.JavaMail.root@elwamui-darkeyed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:11:22 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 11, 2009, at 4:08 PM, synchro1 wrote: > I'm sure this has been posted here sometime in the past. but you > sent me off to rediscover: > > http://www.videosift.com/video/Bill-Bailey-How-a-Technical-Failure-at-a-U2-Gig-will-sound It's much better/funnier (imo) coming from the man himself: http://hstreaming.zdf.de/zdf/veryhigh/090208_loud_tr_ber.mov Check the last 30 seconds or so, although the whole trailer is good. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 23:18:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD8A93BE90; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:18:29 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236813109; bh=hlnH7rN/QkT+/wts55iKqRARbx20gOhk23UBgHzAAsQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IKUcmeUy9vjtUwJzZdVd0rm7ysGi2atwC+6CyQeeQtrXqN83O//dZdsIxZRZ76Cunn+AbFqXutVipjRTBi09NRCPgtzKUENVWQHNmxZjBW6TaBUyKODiZJSFQI3IZnyy3dtq1K0Q7O2AXb+dVzSKhinKKH9uGm73OJRLgjwBkOg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SSprLfYSqDp3aMM/ytpBkBpnREds/l4aTigiO7xy9V4YZvi4z8ymzZH5IPp7VYvRWBfgfQoljjqkUiUbgfow2f6SYdnZrTNmvUFQut7MRgm7dNUg+6Y9X1fs+xY21t1AKeTmo7J4TDWzSC9IcFld+lTsm6aZrnCLp5pylJtlzc4=; Message-ID: <79964.40081.qm@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: x.7OgTkVM1mRcC2g0lD3ERjoZ3ZQyBbYbuz4CYqS1SVP_rH5jj8KAR0sekJONtMVEKTkiNBlkPa_nzABCHC.mnncCSbWbb862GfFLKihmJNPEMiEIKPLkgT2J6X3yiiJTtW4Stj.1waor3XYlaKwGwJTDtypr5r.SrrUjqBoe9aGyVyKypH98g3m01bp X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) From: miguel lito Subject: elektron machinedrum looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <-t3LgC.A.WOD.FbEuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:18:29 +0000 (UTC) hi folks, i was wondering if anyone has used the RAM machine as a looper using a remote midi pedal? I'm hoping to start the recording of the ram machine (to record the audio input channels) and mute unmute of the ram machine playback track basically via foot pedals. thanks michel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 11 23:49:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEE4F3BE90; Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236815377; bh=9gmUzWlQCEoBD3Qznv+WCd/7uCmTgoqt/tCRf2dxhIk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S+5eXBkjqzWj8g4zM6FOj2SOm5quYVniTFrD65IO0ybEpR2LpmVQX2EpcudK61fW1vb8mVOAizLvRKrhs8EPiD8FZ616cGK201l2WNTJnZz1E1wbHAZuXH2ZLDV5jC7dnInwkWKpmr3O/UEyIV8AgEa+Uags+UqOlxUxPhN3qkE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kiCyOtpZp9yWP4gl5p2+FFTbRq3QfSDkJNsTn+HmgafROeuaLR8/7FCpISLqJiKDJrpgAKU3kWcHxY6ZkZwoGqcZyfInLkj0xqU7nVTyPK/mC5OY/J3dEZ5AbGQg8pSL1bwAo2Li0/mWosgFFHHZBCH8Zd91fcj4KvkuEnoSBe0=; Message-ID: <970680.8861.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3cZGsw8VM1nWZqvOwHQlqwihz_43vhA7O1ksrhPWO6NmiKLiUNQIUpO9k5BzdkOp_gDhi1TNN9NdEFUVwa0sqZsMKgSmDUPmnXRgaNLKTWtjE4Es0ad4iHX5mmzb4Wi5dCwKnvaLxAO0AJW2vQJhWVwkMg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 16:49:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DL4 in the AUX To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903110914u480badbeo9247db0aeee99128@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:49:38 +0000 (UTC) But is all cool man you can explain it better and maybe i can just hear it better;-) thanx for the explanation Rainer it totally makes sense! cheers Luis I seem to remember > that you > have a somewhat specific definition of the concept of > signal > quality/integrity etc., and that I was once put in that > "people who > don't know the difference" bin, so even if I told > you the signal > sounds "clean", this would most probably not be > of any use to you. > > All the best, > > Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 00:34:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA9C93BE95; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2083 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:34:04 UTC Message-ID: From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <66f9cc1e0901171748r4c83bfd6w5fbbfc1279c4370c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Is this thing on? Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:58:28 -0000 X-Unsent: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Vipre-Scanned: 050847BE0013AC0508490B-TDI Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <-xzKmB.A.9PB.8hFuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi in case you can see this. After a severe snafu with my ex-web hoster (or rather his ex, who called up and cancelled all his hosting accounts out of spite), my servers changed. Since then despite multiple attempts no return to the LD list have been successful. So this is only a test. Stephen Goodman | http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 02:20:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26D303BE8C; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=THeF8dOEJ7SPIs4yJW+KOc8QUDh9o79CVmGUGpaoQ+I=; b=xRuPQwJNTZTYNQ0JAKrEDiUPoM2ynja7f347/F+QnXLVmXGko/o+fbZH9sSgdqE9pB DaBIedwMqvsX/TsY9JlDP10Qz2V5UkxudhoFs4p/xIJcc+n4a+z9KZQWJtybV7vp58Dd RY+ntp7o4wdXZ6HejsvZxasxA4LwSXlGwh1Sw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=hhfhihHjIzfp2P0LDGZRYd2bpQFYWiFUOPl+4IBR+zCQltPYFmjPkjp6K2lsC/rF1Z cjQgiEMx6EjGOT/KORt9j6Qc1VKQyW0GSDPYJd9ixmTpeBr5rVK4lxI02If+Hr2auNAO 52cHdpFwjW+F2Df4Q9T9P0IHkBk7WcXhgsWsA= From: "Tony K" To: References: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: RE: vst compressors Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:19:56 -0400 Message-ID: <001c01c9a2b9$09ecc090$1dc641b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmhwfGZEtCQ3hyvQDeeXbcrJMxBvgA9vRTw Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: <9JL8zB.A.mgC.PFHuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:20:00 +0000 (UTC) If you want to go with the not-free ones, be sure to try out the T-Racks compressors. Very nice. About $150 for the standard set. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Michael Peters [mailto:mp@mpeters.de] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 4:51 PM To: Loopers Delight Subject: vst compressors trying to replace my GT-5 with vst plugins ... first of all, I need a compressor. for some reason, my favorite kind of compressor sound has always been an extreme setting that reduces the string attack to almost a mere click, and then keeps the volume constant, turning the decreasing string vibration into an almost linear sustained note ... of course this needs a volume pedal after the compressor so that noise doesn't get too loud when the string gets too quiet ... now I find myself browsing through endless lists of freeware vst compressors without really understanding the differences ... any recommendations? http://freemusicsoftware.org/category/free-vst-effects-2/compressor after this, next thing will be the crunch/distortion/fuzz department ... -michael From aviva1957@013net.net Thu Mar 12 02:25:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1239 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:25:21 UTC Received: from mxout2.netvision.net.il (mxout2.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.21]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 021133BE87 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from netvision.net.il ([192.168.11.10]) by mxout2.netvision.net.il (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0KGD00JD4EZNL100@mxout2.netvision.net.il> for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:02:14 +0200 (IST) Received: from [194.90.6.30] (Forwarded-For: [41.208.168.84]) by mss2s.netvision.net.il (mshttpd); Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:02:11 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:02:11 +0000 (GMT) From: a a Subject: Hello Dear Reply-to: gracejohn1986@8u8.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hello Dear, I know that this proposal might be a surprise to you, but do consider it as an emergency. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 02:31:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC6FD3BE8E; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=e9fFlXgEbDISm1NzSYxzUplyLlnevi7+vNSLZhftkS0=; b=D1UQ2H64FeqVaTB54Q35cDybpixcEbj0y8RnqUabpUm/Q8OJkx/X/1yff/JgUgOZ2i ysawaCAj34p41tnNOjeZaIhMuzhfIGH9eleht+spqAWu+Hwt754LTakmarAGr4ol9FHa qQRPSL5IxawLfFyvYwVU2U9hYg3d+tayB4k1Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; b=CkxPp+DO3g1FkSkAUL2lmow6rd/zR6EAHvWbyl+fgRU22AdG8spHIxBE5cOdc/PJGp FW2fg/ABFrD5sj1Z6GhiGCbBoS2m6lbEHD6gvqjYcymW8dkk6LDK/SgCkg9grxSZqjT7 jLkAPM0+VxMbcfeMdqiiBbSf9dHpE0RG0PLEI= From: "Tony K" To: References: <66f9cc1e0901171748r4c83bfd6w5fbbfc1279c4370c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Is this thing on? Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:31:04 -0400 Message-ID: <001e01c9a2ba$98263f70$c872be50$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcmiqkJ2gLeSlIQmS26hzyxtlxc1OQAEE3ww Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Got it, welcome back. :) Tony -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:58 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Is this thing on? Hi in case you can see this. After a severe snafu with my ex-web hoster (or rather his ex, who called up and cancelled all his hosting accounts out of spite), my servers changed. Since then despite multiple attempts no return to the LD list have been successful. So this is only a test. Stephen Goodman | http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 03:47:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EBEC3BE89; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 407 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:47:31 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 250816.52460.bm@omp110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236829244; bh=p+JkdzgvrvSHGSUtwK6pzzvZruvW0Ti7Vs38+GC9v0A=; h=Message-ID:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rL2TPRZ/ZfsGCz7chRbm84N0uWwe1xVHNpc9FbRu2Y6xrNJU4LaKvxFwPWXx4ScO+wOuGDWOCa0HfD/uHcjaqqOC0hLuWU3vA9qkNLUwXvdzyznVzPEPtiSRzDiYBg79+WTrHC6h/hVBm1DMftyUvaIkdvABxsgn0u25eIPkm7I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=edsyVBnclL5jwcD68JQirGrMk0TpPCXgqGorEDMiDwb/mjpGRKoyXSLJGuSRmDYkeQ+K83ZDrMRMfAZgzs51t351tP8rvbhlwHceHl8VCuh4ckurfy3O5vqI96gV3OM2HmhikYj5l5aJHQ4tM2JLO6ltkpsyQwpTWO+TF1bMni4=; Message-ID: <154377.90648.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:40:44 -0700 (PDT) From: s o Subject: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1752264847-1236829244=:90648" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:47:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-1752264847-1236829244=:90648 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hello everyone,=0Ai have been inactive for a very long time on this list.= =0Ai'm playing in a duo where i would love to be able to skip traveling wit= h a computer.=0Aso i'm wondering if there is now a hardware looper able to = do very short SUBSTITUTE functions (like SooperLooper does). I tried a RC20= some years ago and was very disapointed with the command latency in genera= l, i was very easely getting trap in the loop, which i manage to avoid with= SooperLooper.=0Abeside, it was not possible to record super tiny bits with= the RC20 (which i usually do to create grooves). =0AUndo/Redo would also b= e good to have on a hardware looper. =0A=0AThank you for any help or advice= ;)=0A=0ASt=E9phane =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1752264847-1236829244=:90648 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hello everyone,
i have been inactive for a very long t= ime on this list.
i'm playing in a duo where i would love to be able to= skip traveling with a computer.
so i'm wondering if there is now a hard= ware looper able to do very short SUBSTITUTE functions (like SooperLooper d= oes). I tried a RC20 some years ago and was very disapointed with the comma= nd latency in general, i was very easely getting trap in the loop, which i = manage to avoid with SooperLooper.
beside, it was not possible to record= super tiny bits with the RC20 (which i usually do to create grooves).
= Undo/Redo would also be good to have on a hardware looper.

Thank yo= u for any help or advice ;)

St=E9phane

=0A=0A=0A= =0A --0-1752264847-1236829244=:90648-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 07:44:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9217E3BE8F; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:44:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236843853; bh=PyfNBAcen+tIDovU1TF+Q1AjCbDmIhOQeeRHSWiMEnM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=i/kwrURwGhyvk2RW1Pzivk4qgqP3plXsT//1vj126n+3pRTzHfyf676WZuGJ7MNE/p0i5vx4Bg+0M6BZCtnqIeKqmcj0Y3Xf3pqFf8UEE5z56Pmgfjn1q8Q/+CTXwTu+z9AJbpkmSSAXdH/R7AsWJ1unGd1gDM3X7MpcmihanyI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bQWknMx8tOTCxDzwK2TNa4LoF9kvq88l0BDdI9cVhqZd0j1TcFbQIkhq1if15+Fhim+u5yVkie/PajgfR9T8PlOFrxa/ccAanE+y+qkmGbaNXMIjL8WuvgfjRyictZAp2dvozqXfvNUj362+hLUqVDxeXmEu1rwV5tplzSvHvBg=; Message-ID: <591071.1706.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HJrGL8oVM1ksrLTopOMrVJc2c8ZyXHXM4O8VWrn3vyIh6iSd7uNAqTNMixdEXgzwN8OUrUBok6wZaV.HCdz4XszvwzSv5LOKdjv_EuicOfayNuhGtm3MSCYgZUFuXDwvgp.c12is0VVjAxdz6A__17X4CztBWaql0szvLTGT.QbMan4auoiwS6POCH6m2vHsUKA- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:44:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <154377.90648.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:44:14 +0000 (UTC) this one is coming up soon and has a lot of that: http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html I am waiting impatiently! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 3/11/09, s o wrote: > From: s o > Subject: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 8:40 PM > hello everyone, > i have been inactive for a very long time on this list. > i'm playing in a duo where i would love to be able to > skip traveling with a computer. > so i'm wondering if there is now a hardware looper able > to do very short SUBSTITUTE functions (like SooperLooper > does). I tried a RC20 some years ago and was very > disapointed with the command latency in general, i was very > easely getting trap in the loop, which i manage to avoid > with SooperLooper. > beside, it was not possible to record super tiny bits with > the RC20 (which i usually do to create grooves).=20 > Undo/Redo would also be good to have on a hardware looper.=20 >=20 > Thank you for any help or advice ;) >=20 > St=E9phane=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 09:10:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88AD23BE8A; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IurraYf7cLWwmCQnQoXPbcKJtDl9rGQ35LCicwNmwhE=; b=Nk7dFnextYoOdwHtPnAl4Vb1WVk/hpIn2N3DdQxX8cvpS7iKiJPT5YYdGFM2r0u99/ lmFt7s2M0LGwkr++gli2+p0TWEr3Q+MB9AgWoZRqGPfwvDmYLKzLgNpArBrw+/tqNTSk TZCYdIRpivFfW/KvTCwda4UHLLd6V5YCy3OQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=AgWz/y7mMjtRTQfIraj1QVCHlwoyc+FxUYaScBflyqTSzZXvZLO7/4fUke5S+CJVWq BAXycYqDOXC8ZOdOoX8BMeQR3icZpRBmt/jClCGa4vRU6C7VZ/3ECZCPbBaIvhQI29B7 9wnHaWDh/KinFfM+w6RtfvF/fNxyZ9keL0AZM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f0903091502i78af2920k79c20d6c48c7e62b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:10:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7885d1ad9d10bc33 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903120210u6400e51v5dff61cb7d734752@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c924576cc3720464e85b53 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:10:37 +0000 (UTC) --001636c924576cc3720464e85b53 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the suggestions guys, I will speak offlist with a few people and see if I cant get to the bottom of this. For the record, I HAVE found a workaround. (which also explains my ability to multi-plex briefly last week, but was un-able THIS week) It seems that the bug appears to be dependent of which EDP is switched on first. Now one of the brilliant things about "Brother Synch" is that its NOT (or doesnt seem to be) a MASTER / SLAVE kind of thing, one can use either as a startup machine, and the other will follow. However, my workaround is... "The newest EDP must be switched on and booted first!!!" Crazy I know, but then its seems to be OK. I did run into a moment last evening where the units lost synch, not completely sure why, probably something I did, but basically they are working correctly when I do this.. and I must say O MY GOD.. its fun... and Im glad I have the edp pedals too --- I havent programmed my FC1010 with new numbers yet, but I tried firing both EDPs from the same pedal, that worked... then I used the analog EDP pedal to alter one machine... (like multiply) then go back to adding and inserting on BOTH.. but one being out... by a correct music unit.. then I tried 2 identical lops but with differnt setting for Quant 8ths... and then doing lots of subbing (my fave thing) the sound was just jumping crazilliy around (I have them panned nearly hard), and veru soon, I was handling 2 machines like I usually have done with one, eyes closed and grinning!!! I stood up... at home... hear me??? STOOD... UP!!! Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --001636c924576cc3720464e85b53 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the suggestions guys, I will speak offlist with a few people and= see if I cant get to the bottom of this.

For the record, I HAVE fou= nd a workaround. (which also explains my ability to multi-plex briefly last= week, but was un-able THIS week) It seems that the bug appears to be depen= dent of which EDP is switched on first. Now one of the brilliant things abo= ut "Brother Synch" is that its NOT (or doesnt seem to be) a MASTE= R / SLAVE kind of thing, one can use either as a startup machine, and the o= ther will follow. However, my workaround is...
"The newest EDP must be switched on and booted first!!!"

= Crazy I know, but then its seems to be OK. I did run into a moment last eve= ning where the units lost synch, not completely sure why, probably somethin= g I did, but basically they are working correctly when I do this.. and I mu= st say

O MY GOD.. its fun... and Im glad I have the edp pedals too --- I haven= t programmed my FC1010 with new numbers yet, but I tried firing both EDPs f= rom the same pedal, that worked... then I used the analog EDP pedal to alte= r one machine... (like multiply) then go back to adding and inserting on BO= TH.. but one being out... by a correct music unit.. then I tried 2 identica= l lops but with differnt setting for Quant 8ths... and then doing lots of s= ubbing (my fave thing) the sound was just jumping crazilliy around (I have = them panned nearly hard), and veru soon, I was handling 2 machines like I u= sually have done with one, eyes closed and grinning!!! I stood up... at hom= e... hear me??? STOOD... UP!!!

Mark





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www.looop.no
--001636c924576cc3720464e85b53-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 09:18:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971DA3BE92; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=sCh2i18yKBPkfuP+KfF/g46xPZfybb9Kv6lfJRNkcNM=; b=NW/9Yjgj0ZIDdvOmY/gWL4M+PPf4+p/jXPqXET6ic9M380IeuA5+DCK3xZFyToXvwl DnUzzuhlMrxwAJNl4y2Z7aWh+bQUNmHCgZSChJvzoASb/BNwJ+XXhw7klN9enF3h7/FJ cDFv2CLLckAw+oJ0jbTOSYrQgz3FSbTQNvRsg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YTd4kMGk0j6KxHOTecCSLCL/xffuP97TNMxB0iYjnQcMVHMx5sVYRerGjoWt92+8dd 9KCD/NURXaOJFs530XdR+cADfQhW5/qJ5SgN2ZwwJ8ukmqgknaoz7mhqRxn/DhLGaJzy VSYzUgxy11P951eJ352U9pBgaXSwTxcSNWzu0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:18:53 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8c1dd69c2f3ad03c Message-ID: Subject: OT: beta testers wanted for new effect plug-in From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I have a new plug-in almost ready to release, and am interested to give it to a few people to try out, just in case I missed anything obvious in terms of bugs or missing features. It's a little like a Moog Freqbox http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/articles/moogmf107.htm and is particularly suited to being used on guitars. I have Mac versions (AU & VST) ready now and a Windows VST will follow shortly. If anyone's interested, mail me off list. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 09:31:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 085113BE8C; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=HvhEszi0duCsyT0r4+oySmQa2axf1fqJDcUPs++mazw=; b=DZVHOgDCJxdWsfQHA4kBt/fudDLl1sSDfEIO1U5GTgwx7tPpJpcP0kVJ4vxhYtTEsm Hoqw+E2sLOVBz2l2jCgEQzJBj9UMy/I7I0hXGMOSJO53AULoNbbecxZrtIX3W/liKjby V/q6NNUQuYmayAVlb1fRca1gjp9Ed570iwxKM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CmG8my4lS/K45sdU+c/Su+FmDt9CxWw9HVNOxeUBJ+I7Mui/92mSCCuQadUO7bOH5c SsbTaWSZQiNvPshsl69GAnQUTq4Ap5Sk10eiEUuPg8+2diMRAyp0MaPJWjqplgHu/TdG ehvuOTVg05uTZpSS5OIgA8i2tVEVBoxHa823Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903120210u6400e51v5dff61cb7d734752@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903091502i78af2920k79c20d6c48c7e62b@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903120210u6400e51v5dff61cb7d734752@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:31:52 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903120231s219793d3x2c139d7e210c1fa7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:31:52 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:10 AM, mark francombe wrote: > machine... (like multiply) then go back to adding and inserting on BOTH.. > but one being out... by a correct music unit.. then I tried 2 identical lops > but with differnt setting for Quant 8ths... and then doing lots of subbing > (my fave thing) the sound was just jumping crazilliy around (I have them > panned nearly hard), Wow, that's an interesting trick! I remember dreaming about doing it when I only had one EDP (and a Repeater) and I sort of cheated it on the Repeater by recording to two tracks, splitting them and slipping one of them by a musical value. Anyway, I just checked and it can be done in Mobuis - so I too will have some fun with that trick now. Thanks for reminding me, I had totally forgotten about it over the years ;-)) > and veru soon, I was handling 2 machines like I usually > have done with one, eyes closed and grinning!!! I stood up... at home... > hear me??? STOOD... UP!!! That's wonderful! STanding ovations from Sweden! per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 09:44:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 090F73BE8C; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B8D983.2010305@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:44:35 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , RICK WALKER , Y2K8 LOOPFEST email saves Subject: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Young People Prefer "Sizzle Sounds" of MP3 Format: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/11/153205 "Jonathan Berger, a professor of music at Stanford, tests his incoming students each year by having them listen to a variety of recordings which use different formats from MP3 to ones of much higher quality, and he reports that each year the preference for music in MP3 format rises. Berger says that young people seemed to prefer 'sizzle sounds' that MP3s bring to music because it is a sound they are familiar with. 'The music examples included both orchestral, jazz and rock music. When I first did this I was expecting to hear preferences for uncompressed audio and expecting to see MP3 (at 128, 160 and 192 bit rates) well below other methods (including a proprietary wavelet-based approach and AAC),' writes Berger. 'To my surprise, in the rock examples the MP3 at 128 was preferred. I repeated the experiment over 6 years and found the preference for MP3 - particularly in music with high energy (cymbal crashes, brass hits, etc) rising over time.' Dale Dougherty writes that the context of the music changes our perception of the sound, particularly when it's so obviously and immediately shared by others. 'All that sizzle is a cultural artifact and a tie that binds us. It's mostly invisible to us but it is something future generations looking back might find curious because these preferences won't be obvious to them.'" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 14:04:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D41D3BE89; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=yrZKDlcmWDBGXDFcOtoA:9 a=wUv4spExsXCzF4izxhq_8tV_9KcA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-Id: <93798E32-0A93-440F-907D-429E9A53AE5C@cox.net> From: lochheed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Echoplex POPS on Halfspeed Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:04:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: <8ThRd.A.FNB.iZRuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Hello Loopers, Has anyone had a problem with their EDP Echoplexes making loud and percussive POPs when switching in and out of Half-Speed Mode? This happens with both audible and inaudible loops (not recording anything). All other modes are perfectly quiet when switching. This happens from the front panel and via my Rocktron All Access. I've even tried turning everything off in my whole rig minus the Echoplexes. I have two units in my rack and both started doing this recently. I'm sure it's a grounding issue within my rack but I'm wondering if anyone else has heard of this problem? Adam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 14:32:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28CFE3BE8C; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <7E5BD8D5882B491EB5CDE74C57C13D6D@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <49B8D983.2010305@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:33:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:32:53 +0000 (UTC) I wouldn't have guessed the results, but I'm also not surprised by them. It makes sense that sound preferences are learned and not inherent. Bob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 14:54:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF07A3BE8D; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236869646; bh=h8LowYErjowSofLZCPZkio+up1+l/BvIZc4hhEIcjjM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jcJDQsiN6m+2l/3DXYzSMndiXibswMaebxK//TpkYETbSsc6kSBweLoT7p2du1aVTIGSjV8gS7hSEUAD/gqrq76Nm4fC8YFE5k4UyMZjpknKKNtSvrMz8hnVfEspprd8EXEehBzLjbOGbN6je8DWhplaCEioLtfq+PEYoaHcaAc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Y1JtlUcC/fCPJ7z9/O3vh6MbyOPvBNeCV7sd7Vc3NiTjVbR9B6nhU8JHh1xwvq3eRoBdLdYTxFQVvS3Yg8R8AUaQrO8ypoznSo8oK43H5mCqQILlvEo3gjofZkrluKqj09GEHIxSwulrjicCSxhXyR0kBXZBX6VX4+P3IsjZ0E=; Message-ID: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cHSvdL4VM1mAjKVD8Hhf2UbCcHqara1CgZ.IgZoqH9A04XTVpZIKpZedHKTJbDHzAwtXrpuWy6i_8smgr9Ui4SNqdb5f3qxVH4qf5oJDJDKHOKhk2pNge0LdAvdcc2XFfAtka1TBg.bxkc3eMxktZlysewkbNgRnQcFZfRcA0o6DFzafXRflVG1BhImfVtn4BhQhrzH732QOLC1y0hLD4LluJGwtt3jX.g2p0FD2SPazuKwjIYoxy9B2JIeZ_pWnjlMFY7rqk10YaFhoWVl1FnzCS4uvIQtSe0dc4L3miSq0E3E- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:54:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1196109562-1236869646=:18774" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:54:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-1196109562-1236869646=:18774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm just amazed that people accept the MP3 sound quality at all. Yeah, it's= convenient to have a bunch of music in a small format. But, I find that wh= en listened to on my automobile stereo, or just via headphones as normal, t= he sound lacks a certain something. I much prefer listening to a CD even wi= th its limitations. When I crank the volume when=A0 a CD is playing I can h= ear subleties - when I crank an MP3, all's I hear is the same limited audio= quality but louder. =A0 That's just my opinion. I could be wrong. --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: From: Bob Amstadt Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 10:33 AM I wouldn't have guessed the results, but I'm also not surprised by them.=A0= It makes sense that sound preferences are learned and not inherent. Bob=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-1196109562-1236869646=:18774 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm just amazed that people accept the M= P3 sound quality at all. Yeah, it's convenient to have a bunch of music in = a small format. But, I find that when listened to on my automobile stereo, = or just via headphones as normal, the sound lacks a certain something. I mu= ch prefer listening to a CD even with its limitations. When I crank the vol= ume when  a CD is playing I can hear subleties - when I crank an MP3, = all's I hear is the same limited audio quality but louder.
 
That's just my opinion. I could be wrong.

--- On Thu, 3/12/0= 9, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com> wrote:

From: Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com>
Subj= ect: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deli= ght.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 10:33 AM

I wouldn't have guessed the results, but I'm also no= t surprised by them.  It makes sense that sound preferences are learne= d and not inherent.

Bob
=0A=0A --0-1196109562-1236869646=:18774-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 14:59:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 252FF3BE90; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:59:17 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236869557; bh=Pa/k+YOS8TvYuHClfoKMM0Lsk+sOklh5YfHZFMiRtB0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OkxV1uNduHEkakg6Gz/DhWGqdPlJvWL8qT+eozHjNGqrzymbE1wTa6Cpta7xdMX+j+AktOZH+kdRleWLfUXeXD+DePoWdHsVySl9t9SCe8IvZuj87/dQZgHOiWr/JkRcDQ0rs3XIXw82eB3KFg3kXrZFXXeY3SmcqAGv1SkS3j8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wmEPG486z0FeKxU8hEMOp0w4VmOK46RhhJiOpZl+NeYocQ4mTuYGep1CH9AeFRaAksZde015NcAqVavNhdgFPSP2O2RkQvyOmIXeaKoClxEughjtDTKNYjMuuFyTpr/avrtk05abZ1C2pFIkX64iLg0mO+xCE1LT10wJudqsXWs=; Message-ID: <767778.88618.qm@web24106.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GL3Z7H4VM1m.txqJ7blpm4.hGV02sHiGW1vRmp1XK9n6Zz1.6dAZyXf8NMrx0Xn7mA6_MlEJTc06caemt4suELZ4lJ.aZn2auvnfRpsQu9718BeOBo5MwaZnJrVLUv4Vx2nkxiRvYbdcFwSNA8nKfW7k.gX.FmdVUH7vX9BKKRSh0wvsDDhcNky4lmxOIiw- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <49B8D983.2010305@cruzio.com> <7E5BD8D5882B491EB5CDE74C57C13D6D@bobdell> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:52:37 +0000 (GMT) From: s o Subject: Re : OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-228978054-1236869557=:88618" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:59:18 +0000 (UTC) --0-228978054-1236869557=:88618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable interesting discussion thank you! =0Aanalog is ancient, with analog came ac= cidents, scratches, charm and imperfections. i think there is habbit issues= but there is also something else : =0Alike some sort of nostalgia, even a = nostalgia for a period when we weren't born. nostalgia for an age where thi= ngs were more "authentic". as perfection is often associated with coldness.= =0Alike when it comes to pop/rock/folk, most people would prefer a dirty si= nger-songwriters with beard to a professional skilled and shaved tight guy = in a suit. even if it's false, it feels more authentic. sad as it may sound= .=0Athere is some charm in the clumsyness, some charm in default, in untrai= ned voices.=0A=0Ait's interesting that a lot of young people like lo-fi so = much, it's so much of an attitude sometime.=0A=0Ai also ended up here http:= //www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/episodes/2006/04/21=0Ait's a wonderful radio = show, check it out!!!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0ADe : Bob Amstadt =0A=C0 : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=0AEnvoy=E9 le : Jeudi, 12 Mars 2009, 15h33mn 02s=0AObjet : Re: OT = That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s=0A=0AI wouldn't have guessed the results, but = I'm also not surprised by them. It makes sense that sound preferences are = learned and not inherent.=0A=0ABob =0A=0A=0A=0A --0-228978054-1236869557=:88618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
interesting discussion thank you!
analog is ancient, = with analog came accidents, scratches, charm and imperfections. i think the= re is habbit issues but there is also something else :
like some sort o= f nostalgia, even a nostalgia for a period when we weren't born. nostalgia = for an age where things were more "authentic". as perfection is often assoc= iated with coldness.
like when it comes to pop/rock/folk, most people wo= uld prefer a dirty singer-songwriters with beard to a professional skilled = and shaved tight guy in a suit. even if it's false, it feels more authentic= . sad as it may sound.
there is some charm in the clumsyness, some charm= in default, in untrained voices.

it's interesting that a lot of you= ng people like lo-fi so much, it's so much of an attitude sometime.

i also ended up here http://www.wnyc.org/shows/radiolab/e= pisodes/2006/04/21
it's a wonderful radio show, check it out!!!

<= br>

De : Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.c= om>
=C0 : Loopers-De= light@loopers-delight.com
Envoy=E9= le : Jeudi, 12 Mars 2009, 15h33mn 02s
Objet : Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp= 3s

I wouldn't have guessed the results, but I'm also not surp= rised by them.  It makes sense that sound preferences are learned and = not inherent.

Bob

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-228978054-1236869557=:88618-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 15:06:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B94E63BE93; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236870412; bh=iIG132QtTPs+OcmZaIdK/WnyBSe85GBVCsYq5eDpMMA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QJPj02+v9K/l19JSvAn2SRZ0hiG/NpTV84DeRrMCkEsCiUf2Oa/Fgll1EgIFLpR2vrgRa+9uKsBRFVTdE/8tWu48R/I2n67j2bvw8SKlOqjPYul5JsBgf9jDNd0Xu/I/d3v5xAuLYzOVXXXIMKw+pPhpvGqceIOm4vfDaFM3q+U= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q+hNpOtQkACQQaXz85Y24yV3Rbcx885SSvbr72S0cnDqL3+qC+TDfU69adPqdYWKwJOpOPKdFlDU+tWMFjVBDlxOvpGpnZ2XekFAIVIRUXC1ZwUC8dWL0mQ7BuEhNjzdNCwCN5tLP38hhnjvGah6ncQngD0I4mo/Jcr8l/WYO4w=; Message-ID: <93102.45202.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CDNCBSIVM1mzg1w28HG8uc1Hux2q4B2Wgh5DakjXQlizMgqpsgT965gCJ.YdQPpj2spjRKuH1oIZmzOfCnk39OVxH0zMrM5WQAIeyU5.DvRKLZALGwz_UfJ1NdxKVvDY95gYroT1vzd07OIL5RbxbtU6bgp6yo_DKPRZRNhxk1vw89YfARM_i4QGXDaqnN7p2QMGZAHlsG6pdW5B3fo1mjmS393NHDw3cXzW X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:06:51 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1640399081-1236870411=:45202" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:06:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-1640399081-1236870411=:45202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think one can=A0discuss mp3 sound quality without referencing a bit= rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. At 320kbps, i= t sounds pretty damn good.=0A=0AMp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit r= ate.=0A=0A-George=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic =0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Paul Richards =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thursday, Ma= rch 12, 2009 7:54:06 AM=0ASubject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s=0A=0A= =0AI'm just amazed that people accept the MP3 sound quality at all.=A0 =0A= =0A=0A=0A --0-1640399081-1236870411=:45202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=0A
I don't think one can discuss mp3 s= ound quality without referencing a bit rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120= kbps, it sounds just OK. At 320kbps, it sounds pretty damn good.
=0A 
=0A
Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate.=0A
 
=0A
-George
=0A
 
http://www.my= space.com/georgeludwigmusic=0A

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=0AFrom: Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>= ;
To: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com
Sent: = Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:54:06 AM
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s

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I'm just amazed that people accept the MP3 sound quality = at all. 


=0A= =0A --0-1640399081-1236870411=:45202-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 15:11:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 655123BEA0; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uouhkEIIX67gGAadIY9fPNAexji9hXsenm9tlXajAuU=; b=HOSivHzj+b+dw/KBUDcGIhZQLzKLxa8cU0L60JneduqEBcqjPzNS2O5jt8tT6lD4uf BLLJW4Z+tEiSDJ6Z4SkYqycv7tJ1lUjeFVQx4pnjBeJniZFoRDhaKittU0Vv2Y3+QrUl AWFK/Ljmvd76wt0jAZx0G1Ek6l9OUiaiXKQj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=W3CAuQXs4MToLB+/2gExK7Ki4E9WQwxyB+SD3+dKf0PMtPswTwyd0wW+VPf5c+ThOe X/wftpeOG6kuk2Q4/dME4ioXEcgM6kG5FXOdFSKXQFaJEyKBItxUFjXfXIuacbH4AHfk EJ/gVh7IJG80e6GyKCgqKOyQagTsDENLLRBYs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:11:35 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <43ZHiC.A.I2D.oYSuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:11:36 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > I much prefer listening to a CD even with its limitations Yup, me too - as for the fidelity that is. I don't like listening to CD's at all and vinyl are worse in my book; both formats being very impractical to handle physically. I mostly listen to digital files with CD equal quality, the Apple Lossless format that I rip all my records in. On the iPod it takes half as much space as raw CD audio format but without any change in sound. > George Ludwig to Loopers-Delight > > I don't think one can discuss mp3 sound quality without referencing a bit rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. At 320kbps, it sounds pretty damn good. > > Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate. Not really. AAC actually sounds better at the same bit rate, if you have to compress music. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 15:15:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 832D43BE99; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WMN8guX6kftmdgQKe2vvKT9XpsRuHguH9cUlPvC5rAU=; b=aVcLUkHXqMekzOJhHt4lrojselkyD/E5o7Q6cQn/imxtmY8p0Q/amcvvu/o+g3mWdY 2Y+LtoJyMc/np/JQt9woxdJSR9Lg7g73mDgFJcgGve1QL9Iqz+LfAyfuvnkdFzAztYt5 ldyc9WWRgiwnO5H7p2fK1R+TJMptKCvuOGzM4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bhwirClK0s+wB7wvlGzW27s0iN+i1WreW3vb3kFhofqDNGsvjmVwBV/GYAzCu9LM19 e3K6nLBp/6w26w95WtMaIPaNDHM68s2Wv911L08lmU97jQtzWDMu7cpragTqQMDjp2aU ocD8mTWytNpE4NCzS22XIuLcnzk4GeMH+zwbE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:15:50 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903120815of223der5a70a46700853cad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:15:51 +0000 (UTC) I'm curious, is the "sizzle" introduced by mp3 encoding similar to the "bitcrushing" the bitrman effect uses? A lot of people (including me) like that bitcrushed drum sound. That might explain some of the preference for the effect on "high energy" music. -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 15:54:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 223133BE8D; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:54:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236873244; bh=Hrikhz/c/go1yZy6jtit4UCBn7u/8gnQCkb87u+WN1w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XrYYVlklu0RN6TwJDub1amn2rD9wps0dxBwyMXMityTbsaBndpx2Ed29TdmGgKtcM+uDyT9m1RWYWLQr3a5nDmTx9JOBhj7/FYU+fHU69GjUQu0WxLM5JiIlNKxado9qwz+0WhSdD79Akrn4mlyoEmcCUJkxRFHRJGYnVErS7J0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O17OGnD+klOhsy4Ys2RoTUEGLFo5V66kyKCPe/9eIvRy4ITLwdAp1H543sgt8O+KotUqlMH7EFqnr1UQzM4EeWnlZrQ3e5khfk2+Y/YXvR1sGy1XRNIsDwZI1Wk7Cja/JHK0ug5iVqXWGghzMBtMHPVudG6KntMutHRJHhsyRsA=; Message-ID: <600641.62409.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 62sXrPsVM1mI2HEZUxS74GvBsLsW9nOXZjyOxuMqoe.K3aTV4drenfdwEDzd7eqlQ2ilI0xmcSB4UjX4s420tCaHIzKHZGlLCIEq_8WUb.eCfYV1NJYRpOyqAMbuV6.KNWN0vVfVzkdeKDGWO5nHjUejtuQIAqxDn1NmpJFMcb5hat.Izj7bQIJQVQUIMRWgkfOeDUQy_tftcc6vrZpzRkCsI8tFdcwdxnSJ4aGolgPRp2GGZ4dLNogDHFJ81wikFicEzaMPJoE5v3XGU1Zr7._hcuNGdwH9pRTu7rKAVTFHIvwNaIwV81Tb_M_zX81C5OHHrTKDpA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:54:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1731044712-1236873244=:62409" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:54:05 +0000 (UTC) --0-1731044712-1236873244=:62409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So how much smaller is a 320kpbs MP3 file then a standard wav file percenta= ge -wise? --- On Thu, 3/12/09, George Ludwig wrote: From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:06 AM I don't think one can=A0discuss mp3 sound quality without referencing a bit= rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. At 320kbps, i= t sounds pretty damn good. =A0 Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate. =A0 -George =A0http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic=20 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:54:06 AM Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s I'm just amazed that people accept the MP3 sound quality at all.=A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1731044712-1236873244=:62409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So how much smaller is a 320kpbs MP3 file the= n a standard wav file percentage -wise?

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Geor= ge Ludwig <sfmissionman@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: George Ludwig <sfmissionman@yahoo.com>= ;
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loo= pers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:06 AM

I don't think one can discuss mp3 sound quality without referenci= ng a bit rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. At 32= 0kbps, it sounds pretty damn good.
 
Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate.
 
-George
 
http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic=20


From: Paul Richards <pau= lrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:54:06 AM
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' = of Mp3s

I'm just amazed that people accept the MP3 sound quality at all. =



=0A=0A --0-1731044712-1236873244=:62409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 15:57:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4B313BE97; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BatGTREn4zSv053iynakS5tB3G5X4aANrE3XQ7a1/50=; b=IqVWFrjxyx2Ql6B9uRcww7LOQWIln8RJyooMZEj0SNwndah6xUh9uFn5NkbOz1WEcy 2NxF39lAFJsMoJk0qPw++fOv4XOvSNUcASHb9VGrZBQ2FD08y+H4P68OQyo83b9iCeks 2keUinaYfO6e1LcnuktxaLMM61l6BPexF1lgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BKl5b71SErrUcATjcTyKL1jus9cxyxzHj5pGZpa48unHbJvXBU9fSooGiPqRjIdIeD xdY7d1Hwo7MCkxplTso77IqM0DMEN/MoQaNhLbX56K1geNujjVSajCECoobR14HtfAMz b4EKCD+BL8FpsmC9nJXvUtXoFuhZ79Y0hYj1Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> References: <274085.18774.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903120811v473ce34en7d14bf01ea127e43@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:57:44 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bcc57bb94c0464ee0bf6 Resent-Message-ID: <3J_3sB.A.9XF.5DTuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:57:45 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bcc57bb94c0464ee0bf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit also .ogg and even .wma at the same bit rate 2009/3/12 Per Boysen > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: > > I much prefer listening to a CD even with its limitations > > Yup, me too - as for the fidelity that is. I don't like listening to > CD's at all and vinyl are worse in my book; both formats being very > impractical to handle physically. I mostly listen to digital files > with CD equal quality, the Apple Lossless format that I rip all my > records in. On the iPod it takes half as much space as raw CD audio > format but without any change in sound. > > > > George Ludwig to Loopers-Delight > > > > I don't think one can discuss mp3 sound quality without referencing a bit > rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. At 320kbps, it > sounds pretty damn good. > > > > Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate. > > Not really. AAC actually sounds better at the same bit rate, if you > have to compress music. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > -- Raul Bonell at blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com --001636c5bcc57bb94c0464ee0bf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable also .ogg and even .wma at the same bit rate

2009/3/12 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Paul Richards
<paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.= com> wrote:
> I much prefer listening to a CD even with its limitations

Yup, me too - as for the fidelity that is. I don't like listening= to
CD's at all and vinyl are worse in my book; both formats being very
impractical to handle physically. I mostly listen to digital files
with CD equal quality, the Apple Lossless format that I rip all my
records in. On the iPod it takes half as much space as raw CD audio
format but without any change in sound.


> George Ludwig to Loopers-Delight
>
> I don't think one can discuss mp3 sound quality without referencin= g a bit rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. At= 320kbps, it sounds pretty damn good.
>
> Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate.

Not really. AAC actually sounds better at the same bit rate, if you have to compress music.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com




--
Raul Bonell at b= logger: http://raulbonell.blogsp= ot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http= ://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
--001636c5bcc57bb94c0464ee0bf6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 16:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B0343BE98; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:08:47 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+lUaES+p+ldSVdOWt9I6J7q8vur3n2WD6d3JN8Bh Z/heUKTuuAx4So0o+RfYu/9jQEFPeK3fwrcA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 4V7bHdcbbXB+UMxpyTU2Bh0iLyUmZYgJ X-FuHaFi: 0.6899999999999999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per > Why would the looper software crash then if it doesn't crash now? Well, because computers have a way of behaving 100 times consistently and then completely screwing up the 101st time... ;-) But seriously imagine this: Before a gig, you're sitting in a hotel room in the middle of nowhere... And your little macmini just doesn't work properly. For no reason whatsoever! You start sweating, soundcheck is soon.... Again, you panic and there is no screen around. You don't know what the hell is wrong... Is this scenario so unrealistic? Do you really want to risk being in this place? With a laptop, at least you could find a workaround in time. I'm not trying to be sarcastic. Especially now that the new MacBook has no Firewire, a decent Macmini _could_ be an option for me. But the above scenario is what I fear and computers just have screwed up too often for me to trust them without screen+keyboard. What do you think? Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 16:23:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A4573BEA9; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:23:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=E+90ZXjdW30Vp0zf7mUAYDIbDtNjA3CTEOlUfLDxKusCXRCk94SJNHWvrQQXzjYo; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <600641.62409.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <600641.62409.qm@web110214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:22:43 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-975247529==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79e859f96b7a25221853492f06314f0961350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:23:36 +0000 (UTC) --============_-975247529==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" A 44.1kHz 16 bit stereo audio file, which is the red book CD standard, uses about 10MB per minute, and a 320kbps MP3 will use about 2.3MB per minute, 22.3% of the storage space.. a savings of 77% >So how much smaller is a 320kpbs MP3 file then a standard wav file >percentage -wise? > >--- On Thu, 3/12/09, George Ludwig wrote: > > >From: George Ludwig >Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:06 AM > >I don't think one can discuss mp3 sound quality without referencing >a bit rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. >At 320kbps, it sounds pretty damn good. > >Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate. > >-George > >http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic > > > >From: Paul Richards >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:54:06 AM >Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s > >I'm just amazed that people accept the MP3 sound quality at all. -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-975247529==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
A 44.1kHz 16 bit stereo audio file, which is the red book CD standard, uses about 10MB per minute,  and a 320kbps MP3 will use about 2.3MB per minute,  22.3% of the storage space.. a savings of 77%



So how much smaller is a 320kpbs MP3 file then a standard wav file percentage -wise?

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, George Ludwig <sfmissionman@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: George Ludwig <sfmissionman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:06 AM
I don't think one can discuss mp3 sound quality without referencing a bit rate. At 96kbps, it's crappy. At 120kbps, it sounds just OK. At 320kbps, it sounds pretty damn good.
 
Mp3 is not the problem, IMO. It's the bit rate.
 
-George
 
http://www.myspace.com/georgeludwigmusic


From: Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 7:54:06 AM
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
I'm just amazed that people accept the MP3 sound quality at all.


--
...
http://www.zmix.net
--============_-975247529==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 16:35:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0573BEA2; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B939C4.7040000@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:35:16 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:35:21 +0000 (UTC) I definitely would account for display/keyboard. For max portability, I'd suggest getting one of the roll-up silicon keyboards: http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/5a7f/ or this lil guy: http://www.intolect.com/ack3400udetail.htm And one of these brand-new 4" USB monitors (maybe when they drop in price a bit...they're $200 US): http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/14/4-3-inch-usb-powered-monitor-asks-will-the-real-nettop-please-s/ Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > But the above scenario is what I fear and computers just have screwed up too often for me to trust them without screen+keyboard. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 16:39:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B4623BEB6; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:39:02 -0500 Subject: RE: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! Thread-Topic: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! Thread-Index: AcmjLNY3ZqEeeNdJSHuvtvle5mxSeQAAwaOw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA316DE@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:39:05 +0000 (UTC) > But the above scenario is what I fear and computers just have screwed > up too often for me to trust them without screen+keyboard. If I were to take a MacMini around, I would have something like this handy. =20 http://www.mp3playerstore.com/stuff_you_need/special/IN-700VG.htm I've also seen some "gamer" portable monitors. They're kind of hard to find, I guess it's a niche market. Most of these seem to be made for embedded use, like car DVD players. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 16:39:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90CD43BEC4; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xu3dMCOinJPQY2vS1LGF3wNnZRC0KmUTq6wtoWWMZ88=; b=kKm+log4oTtj3+UyJg7TrqP7wbYgInb7IwCxSmxoeE2SEtj3MCEcBgaB0R2zWgZs/j YK26sUKSW5xO63AKgyB20a0N6aXPt9h/IhOnPBYWsqX91e8p58gCVtS120/uetW6ad+q FnlO7tsv3y9wBU7J+XI1MCcb7JO94QN2JsvSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=RIvoex4TIY7k+XCMawe3XiJYYLGS1w0qNjk3LP/iYha++SyRd0Ar+bZKla1AGYBUAl iUGxvwUTJ4uhF2E5WVfFEvvCKkEVzwQ9RDeRTmE7w9ptB/M5vgFKes9tN6d4MNLrm5oI MNbMkdhoXpf75Q654AFb0YBCs8DSeg2mZpuCU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B939C4.7040000@mhorse.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> <49B939C4.7040000@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:39:21 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903120939y4fcf70dbhf6a4166365ff863@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Or a touchscreen like this one and you might not need a keyboard. http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_7_VGA_Touchscreen_619GL_70NP_p/mon-001.htm On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I definitely would account for display/keyboard. For max portability, I'd > suggest getting one of the roll-up silicon keyboards: > > http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/5a7f/ > > or this lil guy: > > http://www.intolect.com/ack3400udetail.htm > -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 16:55:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 976573BEAF; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:55:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DXhEAflYk5I0OpQ2zlzB51VBdyINEF5Wy0ryNIeWN50=; b=sgEUYCyfPn4o/14t2OzLMro9uzVV3aEoIObP1CGZUBFEPk/eEazHlFWEr/hSZlUPFO 1bQ7F7Siko4qR1zrUkWrDrGVrp9zlWVelLoUCyRHb4UyTHcwMVAaeN6PW6YtmANCgyBN edYWywe4WIqqNKEGMycTVDuGaNtaw+ZXS+72I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=uUwn+lPmO/F3iZLw/tMZUeUwOXiaa2A/2RNQSMjEmlv5rd2HG2OssLqCMGFR4qcoN/ onpR3labUjpzXJDNzBMlOtfgRsqOLmcU2viFvgYaoEnZ5jy1MoXEucBP4p6Jz+ouyTtm juPsEm7avgIiT+irFcTYP0xB2QONQU6dHQoDk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903120210u6400e51v5dff61cb7d734752@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903091502i78af2920k79c20d6c48c7e62b@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903120210u6400e51v5dff61cb7d734752@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 09:55:51 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903120955q319eb63ckc3c24771e2b01ade@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd402045ae13a0464eedb74 Resent-Message-ID: <2uhpnC.A.l5H.Y6TuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:55:52 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd402045ae13a0464eedb74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark wrote . . . I was handling 2 machines like I usually have done with one, eyes closed and grinning!!! I stood up... at home... hear me??? STOOD... UP!!! Whoa! Complete lunacy!!! Take your meds Mark . . . -m --000e0cd402045ae13a0464eedb74 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark wrote . . .=A0 I was handling 2 machines like I usually have done with= one, eyes closed and grinning!!! I stood up... at home... hear me??? STOOD... UP!!!

Whoa!=A0 Complete lunacy!!! Take your meds Mark . . . -m --000e0cd402045ae13a0464eedb74-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 17:28:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45B053BEB2; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236878895; bh=Lfn6Pk4RXXf9rIFDDlvkXoWYbffSRH/09UA8odunYLY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6d///L9XQP1dDB+Actacv7gBtz/ykMXXsgMWmhWVGu5JrJzJe8Tlp/VwCgmShwmy24qPuEzwWg/q9oIX1YwSxAfEPBiXPg+eEHU/vfD/IvVz8+xDT1L/7TZ1z7yG3gKFyW/gKIzVy5sRSuQgiBKge2nZXMR8gVQWXxgEBcIaQ6s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MmmJuqpFPyHWIwIXAfQB/scAiU+p33otQ01K9YzngnV5qQXwq30JnR4ImHaKQJIFl0gJnFTJPLELvup/iQGpVNYuz1jzWtIofG3umum6sVGo8H1l1T0utQVytEI7xezh/9UoLDDY5TFTq7QLavlgcnXb3H/LiWqg6IX8alRQvMM=; Message-ID: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: daLTb1MVM1mjKWOv6nqYzZgaD1fxL0_mPL_HeXX81BEdZ.kXO1rmR0TNcrvgINiNdZu0h9gqELBJOGGhm5IhIW4Ig5e5v6i5jmc_zRiAXfHZxi6F_e.r0jR3NdVOHgE7uzobzwPklsy_Hyn83dw4NqcudhI9Pc9wI1X03pSw_49T689huJpfXyb5tuYT3n2jPODG4tOWiq338CqYWMMbOSEbAVbc X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:28:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Ha,ha Per this isnt a serious question,is it? > > Why would the looper software crash then if it > doesn't crash now? A computer without screen on stage? you are asking for some serious suicide= !!! maybe 10 years from now but right now we are all just beta guenie pigs! >=20 > Well, because computers have a way of behaving 100 times > consistently and then completely screwing up the 101st > time... ;-) >=20 > But seriously imagine this: Before a gig, you're > sitting in a hotel room in the middle of nowhere... And your > little macmini just doesn't work properly. For no reason > whatsoever! You start sweating, soundcheck is soon.... > Again, you panic and there is no screen around. You > don't know what the hell is wrong... >=20 > Is this scenario so unrealistic? Do you really want to risk > being in this place? > With a laptop, at least you could find a workaround in > time. >=20 > I'm not trying to be sarcastic. Especially now that the > new MacBook has no Firewire, a decent Macmini _could_ be an > option for me. > But the above scenario is what I fear and computers just > have screwed up too often for me to trust them without > screen+keyboard. >=20 > What do you think? >=20 > Buzap >=20 > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der > kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01=0A=0A=0A = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 17:36:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F28B3BEBE; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:36:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=OGDKLTYvHcqCr7ujTJW6R9687AIuibIhapjN5oVLSGk=; b=BVQ/5N+pEpDA+ZJxTDwaaT5g/NC0lCkA/F4msoQVe1gnRBZsV7JR8ovA0ekGiMgHCj rn2F2Ef+TfOEa+UnXiXT+th6FRVaFgSa0LVejlR4PdzBTk3Y4Kwkfnw6IfnoJ4wCLutE eRq37517x5AcoNcwBGIhQkBs00e8mqiamc82M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OpctDQMpvjJiFQ/lqSTOzESTqaT0tFvhJS2QVVxdmdugw/u5UWTq77DnHbFPcEItfF oEgmLxUGNTdMibxT9lg+spq+7bLKaOAGV6gg5jAWnnz0wivq+P0FPymsmJMXItizcnSU EPXMU/IsykeGYzVccwl9xRTcIA6czLdLZJzLw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:36:32 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903121036i7429422fp276c494565332d10@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:36:34 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 6:28 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > Ha,ha Per this isnt a serious question,is it? > >> > Why would the looper software crash then if it >> doesn't crash now? > > > A computer without screen on stage? you are asking for some serious suicide!!! > maybe 10 years from now but right now we are all just beta guenie pigs! There are lots of computers working on their own without crashing. Just look at a web hotel and server applications. I have myself set up computers at exhibitions that have been running for weeks on a row. Just make sure only the music application in the relevant setup is automatically loaded when you boot up the box. I use the laptop not much differently than I use the EDP, in essence never looking at the screen and giving commands by MIDI foot pedals. If the box hangs, just reboot it. I've done that to EDP and laptop many times, no big deal. And BTW - you can have two Mac Minis!!! If one fucks up, just be cool and throw it out the window and plug in next one ;-)) The show must go on! I would of course keep nice little screen and mini keyboard handy if I need to tweak something on the mini. But I'm not sure it would be needed on stage. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 18:30:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6102E3BEA9; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: To: References: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Decent VST drums Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:30:38 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:30:43 +0000 (UTC) What are your thoughts on decent and reasonable priced VST drums? I prefer patches that can be plunked down as opposed to filling in the squares. It's easier to rip apart a midiline than build one ;-) Thanks! Plish www.michaelplishka.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 18:33:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 774F63BEA6; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:33:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49B96355.9040200@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:32:37 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:33:40 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on UK synthesist Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Final Question" by Ian Boddy on DiN Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 18:34:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D275F3BECD; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236882858; bh=ZHLfEJdL1/vm1HJ2dGmbAY1ef9bEftddKTSfVSRqNCc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S9VpZSBLeGE5hiqZmBWr3IKgmYSN4mEfOHThm5fWlx574ZFmnbFT7fmAp2bHp0rYfHu22nAp4uY5g6oJ4bS1nq+SEPKceB9xo3fxiZF8IXcNPJPYK6rOBLBSILR8Qt2ItRSLJTvVT80HcES3iByex8ZMo0dm7DfyzbEZf9y34qo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xO/IbAbgeyD0qIX3tDVecsWgG2ahHgSUa0/bUD1G9eW7AxTKwuK09v3umDuP/XhrcvP7y2SobbFJbv2VGBd32uf7YL0RSBKiHEMf1UzW2E90ZObDNasRW6le/bEgahrVcs3ybgrOGOoytGzduQc0hD5xaYMNHxrIpAZKSBzoDd0=; Message-ID: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iOCpcVEVM1nO6bzAcZ1NZxhdXsYT4T13TrF9.dUrFsrJGzFSvFJ_cIVaif01gVMQ7VLp5aI8Sx0pzfsUVCbbDaNl32N7Y2m3JJxiZKDCMihSAnzfpfdHSSJDe7DSviODgcUsLO1JMooySk15Lf3_GI2AlTm1p_6ywquAlivvHGHXyRjndnnQcJMH5Pi8epTvoIJ.yMhYh2xZEfN1alN5rS07Hs5NnGZPTi41LjGM0rXG X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:34:18 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090312155406.C37B73BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1094884376-1236882858=:33009" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:34:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-1094884376-1236882858=:33009 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this is an interesting debate. i've talked about this w/ a friend of mine w= ho is a professional musician. we sort of laugh about how bad mp3's sound. = sure it's a quick way to hear things, and it's easy, and a good way to samp= le a large amt of things for listening -think of the old days of having to = take album out of cover, out of sleeve, put on phono player, cue up, listen= , then if you want to hear something different, you reverse order to put aw= ay, and start up w/ new album (and be careful not to scratch album-and boy = i hated the cracks, pops, scratches!). but the other thing i think is we now have a whole generation who this is h= ow they listen to music, so maybe the oldsters who whine and bitch (me!)=A0= just need to shutup and deal (i'm trying to be funny here). i think for me the main thing is when i hear music i know, or have long his= tory w/ (fill in classic rock band here), when i hear mp3 of song, it sound= s different to my ears than what i remember hearing of the same stuff back = in the good old days of college (albums). maybe it's just the tiny computer= speakers, i don't know. maybe it's just that i'm old and jaded. but the reality is this generation don't have that history w/ different med= iums (albums to cds to digital) but i'll give an example: i rarely see live music (no time w/ busy life), b= ut i check out different guitarists live on youtube pretty often. i think i= t gives me a reference for their sound & to see what they are doing, i'm su= re it would sound WAY different if i was there, but i probably don't have t= he money to see everything i'd like to see, so you live w/ it. i'm thinking how great it is to see all the different types of music on-lin= e, it would have been amazing to see adrian belew/david torn/henry kaiser/e= tc live back in the 80's when i first discovered them, but i couldn't. oh w= ell... i suppose the day the technology becomes where they beam the sounds directl= y to our brains, our kids when they are old and cranky will, say, boy it wa= s way better back w/ mp3's on my old computer/ipod, those were the days....= . s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den =0A=0A=0A --0-1094884376-1236882858=:33009 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this is an interesting debate. i've talked ab= out this w/ a friend of mine who is a professional musician. we sort of lau= gh about how bad mp3's sound. sure it's a quick way to hear things, and it'= s easy, and a good way to sample a large amt of things for listening -think= of the old days of having to take album out of cover, out of sleeve, put o= n phono player, cue up, listen, then if you want to hear something differen= t, you reverse order to put away, and start up w/ new album (and be careful= not to scratch album-and boy i hated the cracks, pops, scratches!).
but= the other thing i think is we now have a whole generation who this is how = they listen to music, so maybe the oldsters who whine and bitch (me!) = just need to shutup and deal (i'm trying to be funny here).
i think for= me the main thing is when i hear music i know, or have long history w/ (fi= ll in classic rock band here), when i hear mp3 of song, it sounds different t= o my ears than what i remember hearing of the same stuff back in the good o= ld days of college (albums). maybe it's just the tiny computer speakers, i = don't know. maybe it's just that i'm old and jaded.
but the reality is t= his generation don't have that history w/ different mediums (albums to cds = to digital)

but i'll give an example: i rarely see live music (no ti= me w/ busy life), but i check out different guitarists live on youtube pret= ty often. i think it gives me a reference for their sound & to see what= they are doing, i'm sure it would sound WAY different if i was there, but = i probably don't have the money to see everything i'd like to see, so you l= ive w/ it.
i'm thinking how great it is to see all the different types o= f music on-line, it would have been amazing to see adrian belew/david torn/= henry kaiser/etc live back in the 80's when i first discovered them, but i couldn't. oh well...

i suppose the day the technology becomes= where they beam the sounds directly to our brains, our kids when they are = old and cranky will, say, boy it was way better back w/ mp3's on my old com= puter/ipod, those were the days.....
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen=
http:= //video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121
h= ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den


=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1094884376-1236882858=:33009-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 18:52:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D7B63BEAF; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:51:08 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <28322945.1236443067153.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <28322945.1236443067153.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Buzap Buzap wrote: >> without screen or keyboard. What a compact solution, just this little box! >> > I've been thinking about this, too. The question is: would you really have the guts to take this on a performance w/out screen/keyboard? Can you be certain nothing will screw up where you have to quickly intervene? An Iphone etc. wouldn't assure me. Frankly, I wouldn't dare and would always take a backup screen/keyboard for my setup. I have to agree with you. This past summer, my prog band Pinnacle played at the ProgDay festival in NC and my laptop was acting up. That's all the keyboard sounds plus three soundclips. Without a keyboard and screen, recovery while I played bass to cover for the lack of keyboards would have been impossible. > Let's see: small computer, screen, keyboard... sounds like a laptop to me!! ;-) ;-) LOL. But on a serious note: > sounds like a laptop to me!! ;-) Except for the cost. Macbook Pro (I assume firewire is required): from $1999 Mac mini: from $599 Of course, you'd have to add in the cost of a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to the Mac mini but, like someone else already said, you can get two Mac minis... and the cost is significantly less than a MB Pro. Many people bring an extra guitar or bass or even a synth. Imagine having backup for something as critical to the show as your computer is! Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 18:55:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ACB13BECA; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=SF/nP3oV1pLb3XSv2RDrugq6UuIvXyQD8xQ1zqU1WQVIClGVbQvUZr1qQP8o53S1uSI9X13dnf0Dbxg5hp8r/467AVrXRzfDxvyds3Wpf1jg/Qi+NiTVw933JV8X9i3X6ECEHusPghYyT11TO652cPbKRXhA5c8Rgo8shPZwuN4= ; X-YMail-OSG: VmEeTMoVM1m9iVPqMQZmvWW3P9NpAxmEFbhmVJaV.uyFzuXgnALr4TUx1n9id2Y1_1GphLDcn2_Ff2jXGpjb4ZoEyouuJaIElrYBUpKan5X1iZwv5T4X9vpNddJ5BpNfu2e6bSlCn8N.1boIiRdnHtGqdSOaX1.FOyexVI2_Jaqj9XmDOHu2kFTfAQFttKD2NIQI7D1q7KAr1dIB5aiktBhO8A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <76809CD14A8E47E8BFF60369D09E779C@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: OT: Re: Decent VST drums Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:55:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Hey, EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at www.myspace.com/shiroband Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:30 PM Subject: Decent VST drums > What are your thoughts on decent and reasonable priced VST drums? I > prefer > patches that can be plunked down as opposed to filling in the squares. > It's > easier to rip apart a midiline than build one ;-) > > Thanks! > > Plish > > www.michaelplishka.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 03/12/09 10:38:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 18:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3108C3BECA; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:56:05 -0700 From: To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s In-Reply-To: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:56:10 +0000 (UTC) I think there's additional difference in the way you hear the music, compar= ed to 'back in the day' due to remastering (as well as some selective memor= y, i'm sure...which i'm guilty of). Case in point. I bought high quality mp3's recently of Elvis' 'Aloha From = Hawaii' concert. When i was a kid, my dad had gotten some hi-fi equipment from a buddy who o= wned a stereo store and was upgrading his equipment (this is about 1980). = So my dad comes home with the whole rig, which included a Teac reel to reel= . And since the guy was 'upgrading', he didn't want the old reels anymore, so= he gave his library of reels to my dad along with the purchase of the hi-f= i. Dozens and Dozens and dozens of reel to reels. I was spellbound. And = i loved spooling the tape through the capstans and getting it all setup to = play. And the 'thunk' of that PLAY button as it engaged and the capstans p= opped into place and the reels begin turning.....oh my....such cool teenage= memories...i was about 14?) Perhaps this was my first foray into 'electro= nics and sound'. Anyway, one of the reels was the Elvis Aloha concert. And my dad was a ver= y big Elvis fan, so this tape got played quite a bit.....gotta love that ep= ic 2001 Space Odyssey intro rolling into CC Rider! So when i thought of it recently and came across the MP3's, i thought, "ooo= oh....i'd love to hear that concert again!" And i have to admit it's a disappointment, not so much from the sound quali= ty of the files, but the sound quality of the remastering. I think because= of the compression, the instrument mix got generally louder, and Elvis' vo= ice is pushed back into the mix. So a good amount of the dynamics of the p= erformance are tweaked from my experience, and when you turn it up to hear = the lyrics and Elvis' voice, it's pretty darn loud. but then i have to take into account the selective memory of a 14 year old,= listening to a good hi-fi from 'back in the day' and having the wonderful = experience of playing with the 'medium' of tape, and furthermore it being a= specific time where my dad was relatively happy (he suffered from lifelong= manic depression). Can all those lucid memories radically effect my listening perspective? my 2 cents. Rich ---- scott hansen wrote:=20 > this is an interesting debate. i've talked about this w/ a friend of mine= who is a professional musician. we sort of laugh about how bad mp3's sound= . sure it's a quick way to hear things, and it's easy, and a good way to sa= mple a large amt of things for listening -think of the old days of having t= o take album out of cover, out of sleeve, put on phono player, cue up, list= en, then if you want to hear something different, you reverse order to put = away, and start up w/ new album (and be careful not to scratch album-and bo= y i hated the cracks, pops, scratches!). > but the other thing i think is we now have a whole generation who this is= how they listen to music, so maybe the oldsters who whine and bitch (me!)= =C2=A0 just need to shutup and deal (i'm trying to be funny here). > i think for me the main thing is when i hear music i know, or have long h= istory w/ (fill in classic rock band here), when i hear mp3 of song, it sou= nds different to my ears than what i remember hearing of the same stuff bac= k in the good old days of college (albums). maybe it's just the tiny comput= er speakers, i don't know. maybe it's just that i'm old and jaded. > but the reality is this generation don't have that history w/ different m= ediums (albums to cds to digital) >=20 > but i'll give an example: i rarely see live music (no time w/ busy life),= but i check out different guitarists live on youtube pretty often. i think= it gives me a reference for their sound & to see what they are doing, i'm = sure it would sound WAY different if i was there, but i probably don't have= the money to see everything i'd like to see, so you live w/ it. > i'm thinking how great it is to see all the different types of music on-l= ine, it would have been amazing to see adrian belew/david torn/henry kaiser= /etc live back in the 80's when i first discovered them, but i couldn't. oh= well... >=20 > i suppose the day the technology becomes where they beam the sounds direc= tly to our brains, our kids when they are old and cranky will, say, boy it = was way better back w/ mp3's on my old computer/ipod, those were the days..= ... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 18:59:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38ED33BEC1; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <82173E0167C34982B9B8A4C82029EF44@MichaelPC> From: To: References: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76809CD14A8E47E8BFF60369D09E779C@a> In-Reply-To: <76809CD14A8E47E8BFF60369D09E779C@a> Subject: OT Re: Decent VST drums Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:58:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <7AHA7B.A.lfE.3tVuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:59:03 +0000 (UTC) Thanks bro, I'll check it out! plish ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ricky Graham" To: Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:55 PM Subject: OT: Re: Decent VST drums > Hey, > > EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at > www.myspace.com/shiroband > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:30 PM > Subject: Decent VST drums > > >> What are your thoughts on decent and reasonable priced VST drums? I >> prefer >> patches that can be plunked down as opposed to filling in the squares. >> It's >> easier to rip apart a midiline than build one ;-) >> >> Thanks! >> >> Plish >> >> www.michaelplishka.com >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 03/12/09 > 10:38:00 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:02:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D3BA3BEC1; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090312150251.GIIK6.1169785.root@mp06> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:02:51 -0700 From: To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Boss RC-50 for sale In-Reply-To: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys, I've got my Boss RC-50 loopstation up for sale. I'm funding another piece of gear. I've got it up for sale locally, but LD kids can have it $250 plus shipping, so you can save quite a bit off of new. It's in excellent shape with the latest software installed and the manual printed on a nice laser printer and in a 3-ring binder. I do have some nibbles on it from locals and another board i frequent. Grab it now if ya want it. here's the local ad. http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/msg/1071288781.html best regards, Rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:10:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 532453BED5; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:10:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UpGmdVQyu1mSsGXiVmOST7IdKnsD96KyR73VWmEiDqo=; b=h5kOi8tHb2uGbhIfGtDTZP4SC1bmLFazOZl/79+us330gS/m14CM95LFrrsfBm0Ens IjqGNbT9J5dbhf4AsiWMQCLUIWaNOZEAniMExjZQ818FNvsEV+rTYARJZsZWhgJ4k+PY 8N00Kg16YClHvsCv9wbkr1hyXaD6WpxNmD9j4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QMoxDHemog1P4qqI90oqjsffQLtJ66XPAfo4PtdnzbZ99N9TUCulC2Y7kfvAjEi01F dm9F6DibBm3xNPsP4gN5jvrFycBjeSjZKxYbMxL1URe1xsN7nu5VFpHLUVzsNlnB8YhU nCk5RS743+QsydOvMvUSXSRsCN1B9IpJdbX1g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <76809CD14A8E47E8BFF60369D09E779C@a> References: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76809CD14A8E47E8BFF60369D09E779C@a> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:10:36 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Re: Decent VST drums From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:10:40 +0000 (UTC) > EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at yup yup yup. agreed. find a copy of DrumFlow too. Pretty slick little MIDI drum programmer. You create MIDI patterns, then copy and paste into your DAW MIDI sequencer track. Grizzly is cool too. http://www.maketunes.com/articles/freeware-vst-drum-machine-grizzly also check out jamstix http://www.rayzoon.com/jamstix2.html On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hey, > > EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at > www.myspace.com/shiroband > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:30 PM > Subject: Decent VST drums > > >> What are your thoughts on decent and reasonable priced VST drums? =A0I >> prefer >> patches that can be plunked down as opposed to filling in the squares. >> It's >> easier to rip apart a midiline than build one ;-) >> >> Thanks! >> >> Plish >> >> www.michaelplishka.com >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 03/12/0= 9 > 10:38:00 > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:16:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15C073BED8; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B95F8B.8050802@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:16:27 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <28322945.1236443067153.JavaMail.root@m05> <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:16:34 +0000 (UTC) If I were to go this route, I'd rackmount two Minis side by side, and have them share a tiny monitor, mouse and keyboard on a pull-out shelf, w/a KVM switch. Portable, hardy, and for less than the price of a Macbook Pro, you get two complete computers. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Except for the cost. > Macbook Pro (I assume firewire is required): from $1999 > Mac mini: from $599 > Of course, you'd have to add in the cost of a monitor, keyboard, and > mouse to the Mac mini but, like someone else already said, you can get > two Mac minis... and the cost is significantly less than a MB Pro. > Many people bring an extra guitar or bass or even a synth. Imagine > having backup for something as critical to the show as your computer is! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:22:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D44E3BEAF; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49B96E9A.6010101@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:20:42 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Free Nord software References: <16290468.1236792882941.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <16290468.1236792882941.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Tony K wrote: > For those of us who just can't get enough free virtual instruments.. > a monophonic Nord G2. > http://www.nordkeyboards.com/main.asp?tm=oldproducts&clpm=Nord_Modular_G2&clnmm=Information > Too bad you can't run it from within a VST host. THAT would just be SOOOO SICK!!! Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:25:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 452E33BED9; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: To: References: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76809CD14A8E47E8BFF60369D09E779C@a> In-Reply-To: Subject: OT: Re: Decent VST drums Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:25:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:25:19 +0000 (UTC) Sweet!!! thanks Tony! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" To: Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:10 PM Subject: Re: OT: Re: Decent VST drums > EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at yup yup yup. agreed. find a copy of DrumFlow too. Pretty slick little MIDI drum programmer. You create MIDI patterns, then copy and paste into your DAW MIDI sequencer track. Grizzly is cool too. http://www.maketunes.com/articles/freeware-vst-drum-machine-grizzly also check out jamstix http://www.rayzoon.com/jamstix2.html On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hey, > > EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at > www.myspace.com/shiroband > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:30 PM > Subject: Decent VST drums > > >> What are your thoughts on decent and reasonable priced VST drums? I >> prefer >> patches that can be plunked down as opposed to filling in the squares. >> It's >> easier to rip apart a midiline than build one ;-) >> >> Thanks! >> >> Plish >> >> www.michaelplishka.com >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 03/12/09 > 10:38:00 > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:28:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6207A3BED8; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fE2rvVwAo8v8lnkxvSzFwIjMjFFLias9HqIC5uk3slk=; b=tyXpTLgpAOi3i4FJhczJanXULFdYruYcHYMIWq/PLPQgYUEUxno9LbGczrY7ONC4DN OVNAxRLZDLZdI4NhEWwmDChm/eDrxB8EwHR36ArVDqeNXkRJ3uzA5eTGaUK7JVnzcC0o WIicq3+YmLOIJPZm8qUxzqf8saiDhcdMN47k8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tARUW6NCpo2I16cMtVtHjZEVSdFsDdanUxpQ060aqhmjSubB89YptaDrdi5AGhE3x/ ovYEKQhEftMn5/uNuIo3CPNtp4RXgIpkKBGw/NViFWlpbtkl15aHjpiGh8bgNxyV4Eso ylQeXTI14q68z04PwFsgqsO0wObvrDBnk4kas= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 12:28:05 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517574664c692cd0464f0fb50 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:28:06 +0000 (UTC) --001517574664c692cd0464f0fb50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding. Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have that narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it. So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly listen to orchestral as well as dense, heavy material on two very different and high quality systems. Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the difference between "CD Quality MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough experience with AIFF to compare to WAVE and MP3. Call me insensitive. -m -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --001517574664c692cd0464f0fb50 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding.=A0 Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have that narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it.

So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly listen to orchestral as well as dense, heavy material on two very different and high quality systems.=A0 Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the difference between "CD Quality MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough experience with AIFF to compare to WAVE and MP3.=A0 Call me insensitive. =A0 -m
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Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
"Runn= ing scared from all the usual distractions!" --001517574664c692cd0464f0fb50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:29:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4AE83BEDE; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B962AA.7090002@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:29:46 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <28322945.1236443067153.JavaMail.root@m05> <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> <49B95F8B.8050802@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <49B95F8B.8050802@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Honest, I'll stop posting on this thread in which I have no personal involvement except a geeky interest in small tech, after this one link to a rackmounted Mini w/screen: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/05/rack-mounted-mac-mini-keyboardguitar-rig-with-lcd-part-i/ I'd just throw in this double Mini rack (weird link): http://www.mk1studio.com/www.mk1studio.com/UBL-MMR.html I digress. Back to my tape decks. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 19:34:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F0ED3BEDE; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VRsalb33SnmU5ks/Ij+NfkD6QoNHIZtVbTgRz1EaRew=; b=cI57o1nrkvy6ZDlGTgwcjJTzXYKA06CxnaUjbBKEHdmmp4+SLmXeVwLNs8LbPMK8CK g1RFzycR/Hoe+HPQwOAUgtjJEJmb+AYXrAgLQ5wxuSo4o2+sDlcdo9O9NDQ8Blf8HS94 St+fQzt86I3PnA7SiYPRZ8aSLSZwYVeG6HZfo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KinoUselTWxm8kr++bqS8WKoygX4YpF1f4SaUhZysHKfrjj5PTtptSaV5rSHlL+Ngt 2gjP1RN9LSan/DwFM5edfRarAUaDqxQPgqgQmaRs/DrY/M9b0m3Zh7h87SFzyOYICExB X71mPbkhiuM3amX+KrPAUNaTMlRorpStxcWAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <76809CD14A8E47E8BFF60369D09E779C@a> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:34:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: Re: Decent VST drums From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Not a VST, but just a fun little drummer toy... http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Lunchbox.zip On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 3:25 PM, wrote: > Sweet!!! thanks Tony! > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony K" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Decent VST drums > > >> EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at > > yup yup yup. agreed. > > find a copy of DrumFlow too. Pretty slick little MIDI drum programmer. > You create MIDI patterns, then copy and paste into your DAW MIDI > sequencer track. > > Grizzly is cool too. > > http://www.maketunes.com/articles/freeware-vst-drum-machine-grizzly > > also check out jamstix http://www.rayzoon.com/jamstix2.html > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Ricky Graham > wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> EZdrummer, drum kit from hell. Samples of which can be heard at >> www.myspace.com/shiroband >> >> Ricky >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:30 PM >> Subject: Decent VST drums >> >> >>> What are your thoughts on decent and reasonable priced VST drums? I >>> prefer >>> patches that can be plunked down as opposed to filling in the squares. >>> It's >>> easier to rip apart a midiline than build one ;-) >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Plish >>> >>> www.michaelplishka.com >>> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.11/1997 - Release Date: 03/12/09 >> 10:38:00 >> >> > > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 20:07:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDCB53BED5; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MbAE1XHHg9521Zi7Y+0Ikcta67CMAZMa0m8jZJk21XY=; b=H+tBMN/S6N4ogRqXDyYdLwark4EL+B7543fDYOQprY+9Xdt3Tw2p8HyiTvttDeJrZq RSU+CPO7nN72Ya8h/o8TwZGULhAa2ChwT7GcQQyMuPSWaqIn9Tlo1aGsfmFrXGtO5wBv 1Ey6QDNHgy1LK9G6rv2FrvgxitYrrgI13byJQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=jfV4RpQ5mCGvB/PJiaah2M1cezj3G9i9lGDAEIvardfm8NeovmdGZo1krKx1fYkpm6 /5Ch/nx8BrHVBETUeeGlYObu8JMA6/H5D1Pku63KJKVWea3s9ED/eczYTgo2kvoP0S7S 5a7Kt7BLoDHQ2YPugyFSl+oCxqzb5hGUAianU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:07:44 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d785d8ec09eff3fb Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b4479362930464f189aa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b4479362930464f189aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I just don't hear the difference between "CD Quality MP3" and .wav files. I agree, I cant tell the difference.. but i think the difference in experience is HUGE!!! I WANT that sleeve, being carefull with it, putting it on, waiting, and listening with a big cup of tea/beer/spliff (tick relaxant of choice - mine shown in reverse order of 30 years preferences, 1 per decade). I must be honest, that since I downloaded EVERY Beatles album, I havent listened to them, since I downloaded EVERY Aphex twin Album I havent listened to him... and since I downloaded 80 albums by Merzbow, I certainly havent listened to HIM!!! The guys in my office, listen on iPod.. OK fair enough, I cant do that... and for that the mp3/iTunes combo os fine.. EVERYTHING is available, but you load yer device.. theres yer choice.. Has anyone, every been to town, bought an album on mp3, sat on the trainunpacking it/ reading every word on the cover/ reading the lyrics, got home, went to room, put on record, laid on bed, played it loud... then played it AGAIN!!! Not one of you??? Hmm.. shame... wonder why? Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5b4479362930464f189aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=A0I just don't hear the difference between "CD Quality MP3" and .wav files.

I a= gree, I cant tell the difference.. but i think the difference in experience= is HUGE!!!

I WANT that sleeve, being carefull with it, putting it = on, waiting, and listening with a big cup of tea/beer/spliff (tick relaxant= of choice -=A0 mine shown in reverse order of 30 years preferences, 1 per = decade).

I must be honest, that since I downloaded EVERY Beatles album, I havent= listened to them, since I downloaded EVERY Aphex twin Album I havent liste= ned to him... and since I downloaded 80 albums by Merzbow, I certainly have= nt listened to HIM!!!

The guys in my office, listen on iPod.. OK fair enough, I cant do that.= .. and for that the mp3/iTunes combo os fine.. EVERYTHING is available, but= you load yer device.. theres yer choice..

Has anyone, every been t= o town, bought an album on mp3, sat on the trainunpacking it/ reading every= word on the cover/ reading the lyrics, got home, went to room, put on reco= rd, laid on bed, played it loud... then played it AGAIN!!!

Not one of you???

Hmm.. shame... wonder why?


Mark
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www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/= user/markfrancombe
= http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabe= l.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--001636c5b4479362930464f189aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 21:59:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 400CB3BE99; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B985D9.2010708@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:59:53 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hooo References: <20090312185518.2749C3BED2@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20090312185518.2749C3BED2@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Bill wrote: "you can get two Mac minis... and the cost is significantly less than a MB Pro. Many people bring an extra guitar or bass or even a synth. Imagine having backup for something as critical to the show as your computer is!" I see your logic, but this is only a solution for local gigging or gigging where you are driving. Weight restrictions might prohibit this solution when flying (unless one just plays a single instrument). For me, I'm nickle and diming every single kilo when I have to fly. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 22:08:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F2883BE99; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:08:44 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Least Costly Looping Solution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-CC18C.A.1qD.xfYuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:08:49 +0000 (UTC) It's funny, but cost doesn't get mentioned much on this list, but when I'm talking to young musicians who are interested in getting into live looping for the first time, this is always the first stumbling block to their entry into our wonderful world. Why don't we make some really solid recommendations for newbie and wanna be live loopers that are economy minded, primarily. Remember, things like all the freeware software loopers than abound don't really count, because you have to have a decent laptop and a decent breakout box to use them for free. * CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS FOR THE BEGINNING LIVE LOOPER* Personally, my vote goes to the Line 6 DL 4. At $250, it is the 2nd cheapest live looping stomp box pedal behind the Boss RC2 ($200) but it's ability to play (and record loops) both forwards, backwards and at half speed and double speed in addition to it's ability to add a decent simple digital delay with modulation, feedback and rate control (and controllable with an additional expression pedal-$50) onto any discreet layered loop makes this a creativity machine with a lot of deep potential, right out of the box. What else is out there for the Newbie on a budget. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 22:19:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC3423BEA2; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:19:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Least Costly Looping Solution Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:18:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000601c9a360$7c96b810$030313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcmjXyLtp7yRqxlTSz+zV4zlY6WeWwAAP2Gw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:19:02 +0000 (UTC) > What else is out there for the Newbie on a budget. Boss DD-20 Gigadelay: 2x 23 secs loop, stereo, both digital and analog delays, feedback control, good sound, runs on batteries or adapter. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 22:36:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B68533BEAE; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:36:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Gslo+bWvemZRJf4Y9seOzWDaK3B+cR7CZ2i1vP3Ac4A=; b=LMegCbqaYeOoB0v25Cwaxmd+Ce5z53vNO+qiZBvvbSARU+p3Ut6t6nI8Zyp5PBIATN crCt0aGuDruGJRQhr5H6qf5HEvMssrdFaPiJuLg92bkXAG+VVOkruDcjV1VoOV0aXgm5 JYEL7g/6jNIMbHfEcB7MnJl0OELOlaqbzMooY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JpeXVbmdH2y95AKlcf2W+8iJSO6Vvpv+JawnUKfwpPqxtW7qIcK97onszniV8C2xgJ myDEJJ79H3x+sD2Zs8WQ3KPuP2VTX0SNgstL0Tjldie4zPFbCicW1yrGi0PnYaFGTyJF qywEc/CwWmusWONEYN524esuy4HhJyjIaGjs8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49B985D9.2010708@cruzio.com> References: <20090312185518.2749C3BED2@arsenic.violacea.com> <49B985D9.2010708@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:36:12 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903121536j3293472eg7c00ebd546eb501b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hooo From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:36:13 +0000 (UTC) > Bill wrote: > "you can get two Mac minis... and the cost is significantly less than a M= B > Pro. =A0Many people bring an extra guitar or bass or even a synth. =A0Ima= gine > having backup for something as critical to the show as your computer is!" On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I see your logic, but this is only a solution for local gigging or giggin= g > where you are driving. > Weight restrictions might prohibit this solution when flying (unless one > just plays a single instrument). > For me, =A0I'm nickle and diming every single kilo when I have to fly. Weight: 2.9 pounds (1.31 kg) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 22:45:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CC9C3BEB2; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:45:21 -0500 Subject: RE: Least Costly Looping Solution Thread-Topic: Least Costly Looping Solution Thread-Index: AcmjXyBOp1CcR2e8QMWFoBI9uQeGpAABINWQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA317DE@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:45:25 +0000 (UTC) > Remember, things like all the freeware software loopers than abound=20 > don't really count, because you have to have a decent laptop and a decent= =20 > breakout box to use them for free. Well, as we've discussed here before, there's a good chance they already have a laptop, especially if they're in their twenties and went through college, so I wouldn't completely discount this as an option. =20 Of course it all depends on how comfortable they are with computers and how disciplined they are about maintaining them, it's certainly not for everyone. But I'll wager that most of the people that download Mobius are "on a budget" and want to explore before buying anything. For this path, it would come down to the cheapest reliable 2 channel audio interface, cheapest USB MIDI interface, and cheap options for a MIDI or USB foot control. I don't have any concrete suggestions right now, but it should be in the $300 range. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 12 23:11:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AF553BEAE; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:11:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:11:16 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903121036i7429422fp276c494565332d10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090312231116.99960@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> <368115.82772.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903121036i7429422fp276c494565332d10@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18U3Owlg04UmIJaH3dZp6eo1FuSyrcQyfee02HJDk h7i8Y+rMgcT89DoeszY7bCZGBM/NB9n/Nzzw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: p6GLeDgPIydmCYx+j2Zrl1pSa2FkZlWb X-FuHaFi: 0.67 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:11:18 +0000 (UTC) OK, you either trust the setup or you don't. If you don't: Carrying around keyboard/screens etc... Then you might still be better off with one of the old MacBooks (white). > There are lots of computers working on their own without crashing. Yes, sure. If it is a BSD server in your network or a barebone Linux system. But... > Just look at a web hotel and server applications. Yes, I've seen so many computers crash where they were supposed to look sharp, at hotel displays, airports, pharmacies, metro stations... They really look stupid with a Windows error message. (or just a Mac politely asking for an Adobe update etc...). I am really tempted to save all the bucks and get a small MacMini... I just don't have the guts.... Unless someone can really convince me that Apple is not asking for some stupid update and I don't see a thing - just when I'm about to perform. best regards Buzap -- Nur bis 16.03.! DSL-Komplettanschluss inkl. WLAN-Modem für nur 17,95 ¿/mtl. + 1 Monat gratis!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From sanitaahmedas@colacao.es Fri Mar 13 00:44:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 105299 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:44:05 UTC Received: from correo.colacao.es (correocolacaosrv.adam.es [212.36.65.26]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3BA3BE71; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from WorldClient [172.254.250.26] by colacao.es [172.254.250.26] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.5.R); Wed, 11 Mar 2009 10:22:07 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 09:14:49 +0100 From: "mrs sanita ahmed" To: Reply-To: sanita_ahmed1@hotmail.co.uk Subject: Please reply this mail immediately X-Mailer: WorldClient Pro 2.2.3 Return-Receipt-To: sanitaahmedas@colacao.es X-Priority: 1 (Highest) X-MDRemoteIP: 172.254.250.26 X-Return-Path: sanitaahmedas@colacao.es Message-Id: <20090313004405.0E3BA3BE71@arsenic.violacea.com> Dear only one, I beleive you will treat this mail with the fear of God. It is with a tears that I am writing you this mail, I dont need your pity, but love to my son My mail may seem very painful and sorrowful, but there is more you can do in my request than to pitty me, which is to show love to my son. My name is Sanita Ahmed married to the late Hassanal Ahmed, who died with our two daughters and the entire family in Indonesia on 26th of December 2004 during the Tsunami Disaster . Since after this painful and sorrowful inccident, my cancer sickness got worst and i have been suffering from heart failure and hypertites. my husband and our children have been in Benin Republic for a long time. We all were suppose to travel to Indonesia in 2004 December, but my bad health, did not permit me to travel with them, which made me and my son to stay behind while my husband and our two daughters travelled. If not,all of us would have perish in the disaster. My reason of writing you this mail is due to the sad news that came to me recently from the doctors. After my last diagnose result, it was proved by the doctors that i may not leave for more than two month ahead, due to the damange the cancer have caused in my system unless I undergo an urgent surgical operation which my chance of survival is less than 20% according to the medical experts. As it stands, I have given to fate. But i have a more concern problem, which is why i have contacted you. Please, this is about my son. Since it is now obvious that i will die, my son's future have been the greatest problem i have. I want you to take care of my son please. He is only 13years and we have no person here to take care of him if I die today. My late husband left some money here in a deposit house before he died, which we intended to use for investment in Indonesia. I want you to take this money and my son. Use the money into a big investment, that you will manage until my son grows up to take over the investment. I will like you to take my son as your own son, give him the love we the parents would have given him.Do notlet him feel the pains of being an orphan.give him good education, bring him up into a responsible man. Make him have the fear of God. Please do not refuse this task.As soon as I receive your reply, all i will do is to look for a lawyer here, who will draw up my will in your favour. I will will the US$18million to your, I will give you all the documents that is covering the deposit with the deposit house, i will transfer every power and right of ownership to you to enable you claim the deposit from the deposit house. It will be also included in the Will that you are the only person my son should be released to, if i die. All i need is your acceptance and assurance that you will not treat my son badly. I am writing you this mail with great tears and i pray you to be kind in concering this mail. Please reply this mail immediately. Thanks you. Sanita Ahmed. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 02:20:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32D6D3BE87; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236910842; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=1EMOWVikOjuK6hRfFfay3rc+7d0=; b=gDzC/NW1cwgYWEx7i1jpLJblLZ2utkmlambIv8DH1nrkbi0b4ywhUGFnqfcXb8DZ NGYVn0SP588a7nc+0+XKbE8LXcK4nb2d/xeRv+JJrKi9mbDOsAgXuOp9QTUhOWZl; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=TlUlFXCxRcO6YI6nhxwA:9 a=w4ZIeTFnuTxPLAEMKBldndyaz0YA:4 a=kJVaTwQnZmMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000701c9a382$26e297f0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: OT: test Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:19:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Anyone else being unsubscribed? I have had to join now three times in a week. I hope I haven't offended anyone terminally! Just cause I'm paranoid doesn't mean they are not out to get me. peace, Jeff http://virb.com/jeffduke http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 03:44:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BB833BE8A; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1640 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:44:20 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:16:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0903120939y4fcf70dbhf6a4166365ff863@mail.gmail.com > References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> <49B939C4.7040000@mhorse.com> <588ce11d0903120939y4fcf70dbhf6a4166365ff863@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090313031700.0FAF22479E@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Hey, I've been using a 1U rackmount pc for 3 yrs now and bought one of those Lilliput 7" screens that I set on top of the rack just to give me a visual reference now and then and it works great. I also got a tiny 8" x 3" usb keyboard and it is very useful. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca At 11:39 AM 3/12/2009, you wrote: >Or a touchscreen like this one and you might not need a keyboard. >http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_7_VGA_Touchscreen_619GL_70NP_p/mon-001.htm > >On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > I definitely would account for display/keyboard. For max portability, I'd > > suggest getting one of the roll-up silicon keyboards: > > > > http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/5a7f/ > > > > or this lil guy: > > > > http://www.intolect.com/ack3400udetail.htm > > >-- >Art Simon >simart@gmail.com >myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 03:50:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 295813BE8D; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Y1AJHFoGUyYliRcbw1+4aRZ0Wls8UwXFUUeIfFEzUdK5Pgkj6+DsepL6hscFrulq; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20090313031700.0FAF22479E@ns3.tnt21.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> <49B939C4.7040000@mhorse.com> <588ce11d0903120939y4fcf70dbhf6a4166365ff863@mail.gmail.com> <20090313031700.0FAF22479E@ns3.tnt21.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:49:36 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79af96e39a6bd20e5275a2bb12be9e9522350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Paul, Have you got a web link for that keyboard, who made it?? >Hey, I've been using a 1U rackmount pc for 3 yrs now and bought one >of those Lilliput 7" screens that I set on top of the rack just to >give me a visual reference now and then and it works great. I also >got a tiny 8" x 3" usb keyboard and it is very useful. > >Paul Haslem >www.dulcify.ca > > > > > > >At 11:39 AM 3/12/2009, you wrote: >>Or a touchscreen like this one and you might not need a keyboard. >>http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_7_VGA_Touchscreen_619GL_70NP_p/mon-001.htm >> >>On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >>> I definitely would account for display/keyboard. For max portability, I'd >>> suggest getting one of the roll-up silicon keyboards: >>> >>> http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/5a7f/ >>> >>> or this lil guy: >>> >>> http://www.intolect.com/ack3400udetail.htm >>> >>-- >>Art Simon >>simart@gmail.com >>myspace [dot] com/artsimon -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 06:42:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D416F3BE8A; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=q6lXcEWSRUoIJF8AklP834cQlet23UWsSi7Ck8vQkTQ=; b=DkF03wQVysvAztxDrk1j/I9yxU25EaL/8R9iybYFxRl9r3+dSAP/kw5bOzUH9VQFu9 f5gazCVHhZpArzkFvmExcLHfP4Lr6FOt+1SSRt8+fVYWuun7y8Dg7SRjR2NtSd1e7QO8 YxPshjrmT73ujDhAhJp6MceoRA3HupbwgtdNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xMh0qxujWFEbtNaptJE5fDGRxI3laUCdOYBkvhFcbErin73bqRzI6RjjjLZROqP+0z OMvCE9pVo5qPsjAJgTPGvJIxsvao7ziHagH36C54zr3dm704qDlHvICvtxHnimNyYY8Y zsoO3m0oOtJvn/sS9NEqn66D50XN2aKDacMy8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:42:20 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903122342r2972246era54105ac04e50ba6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4877209ab3e0464fa6723 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:42:20 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4877209ab3e0464fa6723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amazingly strong point Mark, but it's so far gone, (at least seems so), and I suffer from post-modern neuritis and neuralgia anyway. My synapses and vision are shot. So I just slowly build playlists as I find favorite stuff and listen in my room. I really miss deciphering liner notes and lyrics and looking at cool album artwork as well. But sound quality? Not an issue. -m -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd4877209ab3e0464fa6723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amazingly strong point Mark, but it's so far gone, (at least seems so),= and I suffer from post-modern neuritis and neuralgia anyway. My synapses a= nd vision are shot. So I just slowly build playlists as I find favorite stu= ff and listen in my room. I really miss deciphering liner notes and lyrics = and looking at cool album artwork as well. But sound quality? Not an issue.= =A0 -m
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--000e0cd4877209ab3e0464fa6723-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 07:52:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B919C3BE89; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: Least Costly Looping Solution Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:52:51 +0100 Message-ID: <002801c9a3b0$b626d6a0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> Thread-Index: AcmjryZ3ycKcouQ9TPSqBFfNfFoLjwAAXGNA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.109; VDF: 7.1.2.162) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:52:54 +0000 (UTC) > CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS FOR THE BEGINNING LIVE LOOPER* get two identical tape recorders from eBay dirt cheap and do it the oldfashioned way -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 08:58:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4B213BE8B; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IExQRLYk4aUvKeeBDfnLfFFoljaCpRojf3FsH0UWTKo=; b=LTs5wxbugbMvMIViisUOKsEW0nHGDugMZCK6Jebq/yL4NgH2hqOtVeocGLnBMTBj42 /iUf2GBJXzeWRbOj9CBwVT7mnORHnfPCQ0HBODA0y8R8MM+KU3MR3e6xR8ndoLZk7vwO SK1ByVeMdWvhQa7s/rfSTtyg7RCJLCrI11ATs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w4cMRwZ+9fc+h3jbi3tMIzrc5ddiN2XFUuHsfrV1EvA/fCyGVbx9OeZ5ED/08C622W XP+ss+e4Uy5l9BkccedEBUiaxI2VndiA0daMXahYKZssaf3y75ff2rXjazgleZVHwl+5 6dQN0dHaP3ZEZrfS/E1OusT4uW8Wl6eVUKF40= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090313031700.0FAF22479E@ns3.tnt21.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> <49B939C4.7040000@mhorse.com> <588ce11d0903120939y4fcf70dbhf6a4166365ff863@mail.gmail.com> <20090313031700.0FAF22479E@ns3.tnt21.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:58:37 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903130158r16ebaba9k90ccb3f1c2c0bd95@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:58:37 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:16 AM, paul wrote: > Hey, I've been using a 1U rackmount pc for 3 yrs now and bought one of those > Lilliput 7" screens that I set on top of the rack just to give me a visual > reference now and then and it works great. I also got a tiny 8" x 3" usb > keyboard and it is very useful. Nice. The less gear the better! About five years ago I was looking into a Shuttle PC solution for a live rig. They were cute too. But then also Apple started making powerful computers (starting with tapping IBM for the G5 chip then moving on with Intel) and I decided to go with a Powerbook instead, for the reason of the software available for that system. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 10:11:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBA753BE8C; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236939079; bh=xO71j+aW3KUCrxYjkzQZgV1ow4pySnoREt4Kv+pk/+M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FA1yebbL6RINAbvw8JzkSOW2cr78m72z2Em7nwMYPA9BlmtnVUUgEQU9f47ZnoryfjDrMPYrKtM5lh64EO7x3aAq5TIDqSPb7rBzJsPswFhBBICVVlx+Y2S5ADrx7UqP3XxpHpyKbRAMpjEHouz6IqN/yWf648WPNxq6oNUBYqk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jt7SChHeeIexj4QDG6wF2aYYFEtTMgg5for5jQoTsiwD2ZfuQkCRZcxd/3xKH9rb7MhoR2Dn01ZS7KB9fFT9j+ZbfXhZmEe+ftSViIJ7FobcxTPW6FynK/yDXa9364t8DYl9QpGxzCjsGi3iQje4fRA3797tg8YK46s1bk7CRb8=; Message-ID: <74772.73293.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RpZ7KkYVM1m_Qth09aKBrsy6Zfv8DkzgvZKrrUxM82B56nX9FrXP1EDQQ14WIznIHeFIO.lX7m48FjA8G71oMzt19DrLQ9bV__skLZBptIEFA_1u8OlQfLrkwV.XWTWF9pC4LKz0puigmqHkRUOaWsmsPArTKtLI6_S6fIapGwibtB9SKpQLLm3MQz0sJfE9ZUw- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:11:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:11:19 +0000 (UTC) At my last loop show i had 3 crashes as well luckily after a piece! i would have been completly lost without a screen and there is a big difference between a hardware screen an a multitasking computer screen! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Bill Fox wrote: > From: Bill Fox > Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:51 PM > Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> without screen or keyboard. What a compact > solution, just this little box! > >> > > I've been thinking about this, too. The question > is: would you really have the guts to take this on a > performance w/out screen/keyboard? Can you be certain > nothing will screw up where you have to quickly intervene? > An Iphone etc. wouldn't assure me. Frankly, I > wouldn't dare and would always take a backup > screen/keyboard for my setup. > I have to agree with you. This past summer, my prog band > Pinnacle played at the ProgDay festival in NC and my laptop > was acting up. That's all the keyboard sounds plus > three soundclips. Without a keyboard and screen, recovery > while I played bass to cover for the lack of keyboards would > have been impossible. > > Let's see: small computer, screen, keyboard... > sounds like a laptop to me!! ;-) > ;-) LOL. But on a serious note: > > sounds like a laptop to me!! ;-) > Except for the cost. > Macbook Pro (I assume firewire is required): from $1999 > Mac mini: from $599 > Of course, you'd have to add in the cost of a monitor, > keyboard, and mouse to the Mac mini but, like someone else > already said, you can get two Mac minis... and the cost is > significantly less than a MB Pro. Many people bring an > extra guitar or bass or even a synth. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 10:33:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C56F3BE8C; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wV+iccNSyhB73/qLC9iNWw0yiBQnpu4i7W0Eq7z2488=; b=iMmMkdFqq0o+JSW5dpc8GTBTmmHdHQ8hGabxf4FoNE9lua+GnIvK07LlgW6AvmgNtq 3gRyUJUSNNeZD26KhKyY814wbY8V7ATpXJXOKNYBBC8zQxzArFbpjPE/R5yUljdGmU4/ cQaetVYowrJqhMyF0wzOYSv7CZ+xlKPhLw9VI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GJJMGoCD44mFjV8F6OgEeIll5x1okysI+1Vp7HzwzLSIhYOe2fGIP2IxU4IJ+ukuWO g8V126xvim378MjhShLklhNxtxKI3DeQTNI6mMXCXr9qtk+nR1BdpPGaa5lkjss3lHrH mkkKaMTAYIxJ167RDRneiLiXHGdhnsu2OyzdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903130332ib492108k3c45913be13e137f@mail.gmail.com> References: <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> <74772.73293.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903130332ib492108k3c45913be13e137f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:33:32 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903130333i3c08c571pe81acb0c873cb20e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:33:34 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:11 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > At my last loop show i had 3 crashes as well luckily after a piece! Holy shit! I've had two looping crashes. One on my EDP at a concert in 2004 (I unplugged the power chord and rebooted it to get back on track) and one on my MacBook during rehearsal with some extra stuff added for test. But I don't put extra stuff into my laptop rig for concerts. And I always "over-abuse" the system when rehearsing, to explore the outer limits. Right now I'm setting up a system to be used on a tour starting ten days from now. Yesterday I had around 60 patches in MainStage and found that to be a "memory limit" for the MacBook with 4 GB memory. So I got rid of most virtual instrument patches that use long samples and deleted some variations of mic input sounds. Now I'm back down again at 20 patches; ten mic input patches, nine MIDI driven virtual instrument patches and one guitar input patch (also using floor stomp boxes with the guitar). That's almost exactly the setup I've been using so successfully in Bidule + Mobius under Windows XP on many computers over the years. I'm expanding the setup just bit now tho, in MainStage, by also adding some post loop live processing (filterbank, distortion, ring modulator) which is new for me. I will rehears for at least three hours a day in ten days with this setup before I dare to use it on stage. If it won't pass the test I can reboot into XP and perform with the Bidule rig or grab my back-up PC laptop that has a simpler Bidule+Mobius rig in XP service pack 2 (never upgraded) that still works stable as a clock after many years. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 10:44:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D6013BE8D; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236941070; bh=DHmUinoSrdewj5z2UiO6yEvKamf00YNQgVd6k7Lh1FE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PnhBLzo03DKcizFanB206+TAfjEzx0Df4j/uli9iqq9WhjrIK7VznYQIB/CMlrQ3G++9mT3GWW3QneSJHhWdianUl2E4SAUmhGT62Bv7IyH4qamYnCNqjKR7KFOFJnZFoglJI3Z9tYkr5QxAdVwwkFEZzW6Z73NXa3BLBro2VMk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P8052EzwETRAmyiMY3kklQG05Af5wAQ0e+npfYQ33CFyQTewynWZw+fTlRfyDsinQOdiT4bpsqLIZquCA2IKLf48fg6vfqNbMIDGJRjRyWbunwGkiOOCSO8UQOsyuz/Or9Deg86WuKRlC3krQXoGSxn6NVDEd5KML/x4ZHmq/lg=; Message-ID: <492050.9261.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sMyaB2IVM1mj.sn0JWxL6kNqAmCXh.VKDNU1TShEZ3gHEdIn8VgYvDBzTZcAn7_.XnTEl3gVjnpV_XfJ6aEicwMMoTRB1VgSO7PKYTwnt7Tr9.6EK0kBqLQMXc9wqSwFkogyge3p6U0Xbe8kcmbcV4p5qPOGXyHuKSscVfRlG4i1F7E7naB7l9mOpzvCbX6bFmqXdJYA6gxomrWE0w6rv1hOENN6nIK91fA63Mc- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:44:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B95F8B.8050802@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:44:31 +0000 (UTC) this is really tempting,you could actually put the mini hooked with a small FW cable to your half-rack soundcard in a good secure pedalboard and run a little monitor screen to your note stand or anywhere you want it,then set the keyboard hidden somewhere on the side in case a crash,hmmm... and somehow it wouldnt feel so fragile as a laptop does oh man why didnt you guys mention this before i bought my macbook! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:16 PM > If I were to go this route, I'd rackmount two Minis side > by side, and have them share a tiny monitor, mouse and > keyboard on a pull-out shelf, w/a KVM switch. Portable, > hardy, and for less than the price of a Macbook Pro, you get > two complete computers. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > Except for the cost. > > Macbook Pro (I assume firewire is required): from > $1999 > > Mac mini: from $599 > > Of course, you'd have to add in the cost of a > monitor, keyboard, and mouse to the Mac mini but, like > someone else already said, you can get two Mac minis... and > the cost is significantly less than a MB Pro. Many people > bring an extra guitar or bass or even a synth. Imagine > having backup for something as critical to the show as your > computer is! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 10:48:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CD5A3BE8B; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236941292; bh=+sN7ZRRiqZ/D9N5tRaYrjK3WKOB/3zIU9Skrjm+qWjI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1/ngoo5g42WemAXBOXZ6bRC7cw26t9v4GxMBZROw/6525/xkrAHUtfcaUweqy3GXZel73+uo3fnGhn4lXglIIh9QrBG6yczEH97WG1KvSAWlAOIf7HQEV8ZVp8gOf1Db7NaPGQbQBIqxBVyJl2Dm/sA/qh4PgIK4RAUXIL/gHFY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l3BBtfuxi7f11/2UEGoTQOwLTjEmyj0iHYfqeTEgMB53NguyPfUuyyhUlprHDXuctrTHOmmF8Ft7ao0V3gNe3izEmFj3KwEVeytfWDx+lpytvbHhtIH/iT5Wj36UqLDrekDGWTiGJntPlztnl3hY+B7eB0gKOYCDY7RpYcy8k48=; Message-ID: <813292.9013.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EhlUzfUVM1lwk6MSQPUY60rovQA5F0fu2AWZwj58mtbLGIHtUChg7g_qChBtZ7gsiFw_I7gu7WRhwlc_pEuhCHnLAop0A3Fhxz02zXEf65sfRbIzU1cGSvaoE0MsIoGCHm7LeGK3YeAo2r4qMwAl.17Hh4lfLEZ0NSZ6nERqn9e0yoVMQ2bs1mkdVAhHtUwIN4MhRshnPw9D X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:48:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B962AA.7090002@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:48:13 +0000 (UTC) awesome daryl thanx for the link! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: > From: Daryl Shawn > Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:29 PM > Honest, I'll stop posting on this thread in which I have > no personal involvement except a geeky interest in small > tech, after this one link to a rackmounted Mini w/screen: > > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/08/05/rack-mounted-mac-mini-keyboardguitar-rig-with-lcd-part-i/ > > I'd just throw in this double Mini rack (weird link): > > http://www.mk1studio.com/www.mk1studio.com/UBL-MMR.html > > I digress. Back to my tape decks. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 11:43:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB9703BE8C; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: 2 new live improv's - Bansai Blues pt.2 and Surroundings (free download) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:43:16 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c9a3d0$e66b5a50$030313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acmjz36QwpsG3q13T6eETtBI9KaGNA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I have added track 8 and 9 to the Live Looping demo. "Surroundings" is a Ambient/Jazz soundscape, "Bansai Blues pt.2" a World/Jazzy rhythmic experiment. Enjoy your day! http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw/Live+Looping+Demo Btw: I forgot to use the compression on the master channels of "Surroundings", so the contrabass comes a little too hard everyone now an then. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 12:32:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CA8B3BE82; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 166440870/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.177.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.177.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8BAOPuuUlPTrGa/2dsb2JhbAAIz36DfgaHIA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,357,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="166440870" Message-ID: <49BA5469.5060808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:41:13 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution References: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS FOR THE BEGINNING LIVE LOOPER* > > Personally, my vote goes to the Line 6 DL 4. At $250, it is the 2nd > cheapest live looping stomp box pedal behind the Boss RC2 ($200) but In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been £250. I'd agree it's pretty good tho', and would add some more plusses to the ones you mentioned. It possesses that rare and underrated feature the "well thought out user interface". The echo that is available while looping is a nice bonus, and can just manage some mini-loops ...and who doesn't admire the "Bill Walker Signature" filtered echo sound. The RC2 is £150 here. The Akai Headrush can be had for just under £100. It at least allows to create a loop and overdub onto it, and a limited Undo capability. The delay settings are frustrating...grit your teeth when tapping a new delay time always leaves you with silence in the delay, but the analog tape sound is at least "interesting". The Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man at £130 has it's moments too. Worst feature is that you record a loop by holding down "tap" for the duration of the loop, not a good way to get rhythmic accuracy. No, wait a minute, worst feature is that you have put the unit into bypass before you can clear the loop. Well, the EHSMM is a lot of fun as a delay (superb imo), and as a looper it's ok to use in band for the odd loop trick or two. Wouldn't want to play a looping show with it as the only looper tho'. As a starter looper it's only an option if you're already in the market for a delay (tho' not a long enough delay for that sort of looping really, at 3s max). At least it allows you to put down a loop (42s)and overdub and perhaps find out if the you want to go for a fully featured looper. Of course, available very cheap £50=pp, or less I expect, and probably the most famous starter looper of all, with basic looper and dual long delay it's.... (guess first) http://tinyurl.com/ch4uwj andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 12:59:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 353753BE90; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 07:59:02 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <20090307162135.42890@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0903071000x511b64fane1dda80d2ba0f76f@mail.gmail.com> <20090312160847.152480@gmx.net> <49B939C4.7040000@mhorse.com> <588ce11d0903120939y4fcf70dbhf6a4166365ff863@mail.gmail.com> <20090313031700.0FAF22479E@ns3.tnt21.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20090313125909.4AF6C14DB9@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:59:10 +0000 (UTC) It's made by Solidtek, model 3100SU http://www.axiontech.org/prdt.php?item=79220&PRICECOMPARISONSID=834ece2e5f2a2f36f1551182c5ff2647 At 10:49 PM 3/12/2009, you wrote: >Paul, > >Have you got a web link for that keyboard, who made it?? > >>Hey, I've been using a 1U rackmount pc for 3 yrs now and bought one >>of those Lilliput 7" screens that I set on top of the rack just to >>give me a visual reference now and then and it works great. I also >>got a tiny 8" x 3" usb keyboard and it is very useful. >> >>Paul Haslem >>www.dulcify.ca >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 13:39:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E49063BE8D; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:39:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236951541; bh=EMKxjoEwnF7C6O/Pq9p1gA/PRLk79EEa5DmhL2I9GJY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JD9Xp4mq3tUDL0qbldjg0uc5pL4+RGeyBFSraEP6OUm4SzbTDdOl5s10fca+tT1DLYzvNJhSY3FSA7JIN20pfY9poLLFE+CHESQGV4ctp9yrWz7xR6LcSbSa6yG22vCX4wvhKwQg1n4i574erS3uKcMRxO8MxCvDXzlwXHNNsNI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nSsi4hxRwju/NezJZOTUdWnWYMiFYLv0YUMOR79zfnw4Y3M61c7rHv+x2ZCBK+EKYLNODFLlHobI+yoV0R1gFD2gU/mifnrlaVbd07+C/Q7TERya6+gu77aNM7fQhflREoJVkkdAdOMrM2Xkr3PeCf/wWuLsGhOKghfyiFfa+aI=; Message-ID: <995339.82868.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8Qu.uAIVM1kTv3EE7agcMx5F0kqjbB7N0KuPVs8qQj2Nc75X_zwYd9_9hsDPi3vmMmeyT91DeOniEpCzGImFe7XofEU6NzIUQV9GfW0WNZHiUY8fF4p3GTZAByB8QPoamNdOgbBQITNgD.ni_q_QFOvA3UnNsZMPj.IHXs_TNSOzGBH_Z56Nuls2F.0e2YA- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:39:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49BA5469.5060808@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8eej5B.A.q_C.2HmuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:39:02 +0000 (UTC) what about this dudes: http://www.digitech.com/products/Hardwire/HW_DelayLooper.php 159.00dlls. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BOSDD7 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 3/13/09, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:41 AM > Rick Walker wrote: >=20 > > CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS FOR THE BEGINNING LIVE > LOOPER* > >=20 > > Personally, my vote goes to the Line 6 DL 4. At > $250, it is the 2nd cheapest live looping stomp box pedal > behind the Boss RC2 ($200) but=20 >=20 > In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been =A3250. > I'd agree it's pretty good tho', and would add > some more plusses > to the ones you mentioned. It possesses that rare and > underrated feature the "well thought out user > interface". > The echo that is available while looping is a nice bonus, > and > can just manage some mini-loops ...and who doesn't > admire the "Bill Walker Signature" filtered echo > sound. >=20 > The RC2 is =A3150 here. >=20 > The Akai Headrush can be had for just under =A3100. > It at least allows to create a loop and overdub onto it, > and a limited Undo capability. > The delay settings are frustrating...grit your teeth when > tapping a new > delay time always leaves you with silence in the delay, but > the analog tape sound > is at least "interesting". >=20 >=20 >=20 > The Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man at =A3130 has > it's moments too. > Worst feature is that you record a loop by holding down > "tap" for the duration of the loop, not a good way > to get rhythmic accuracy. > No, wait a minute, worst feature is that you have put the > unit into > bypass before you can clear the loop. > Well, the EHSMM is a lot of fun as a delay (superb imo), > and as a looper it's ok > to use in band for the odd loop trick or two. > Wouldn't want to play a looping show with it as the > only looper tho'. > As a starter looper it's only an option if you're > already in the market > for a delay (tho' not a long enough delay for that sort > of looping > really, at 3s max). At least it allows you to put down a > loop (42s)and overdub and > perhaps find out if the you want to go for a fully featured > looper. >=20 >=20 > Of course, available very cheap =A350=3Dpp, or less I expect, > and probably the most famous > starter looper of all, with basic looper and dual long > delay it's....=20 > (guess first) >=20 > http://tinyurl.com/ch4uwj=20 > andy butler=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 15:00:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B1C53BE8A; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 163058604/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.177.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.177.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Al8BAM8RuklPTrGa/2dsb2JhbAAI0BCDfgaHIA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,357,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="163058604" Message-ID: <49BA772D.60003@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:09:33 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution References: <995339.82868.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <995339.82868.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <6pE91.A.qnF.fUnuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:00:47 +0000 (UTC) hmm, both these only have one button. L.Angulo wrote: > what about this dudes: > http://www.digitech.com/products/Hardwire/HW_DelayLooper.php 159.00dlls. They say:- While still holding down the Foot Switch, begin playing your instrument. The Indicator LED lights solid RED indicating the pedal is recording. When you reach the end of your passage, release the Foot Switch. The Indicator LED lights solid GREEN and the passage you recorded plays back in an infinite loop. andy says:- that's about the worst possible user interface I could imagine. Suitable for creating "jam-along" backings, but not much else. At least it has an 8s delay. > http://www.zzounds.com/item--BOSDD7 £120 in uk + extra for the psu( Boss psu aren't cheap) a 6.7s delay, and.. they say:- Up to 40 seconds of recording for sound on sound (Hold mode) And getting the manual from the uk site (not on the .com):- Begin recording Recording starts when you press the builtin pedal switch (the CHECK indicator flashes red). * The maximum recording time is 20 seconds for stereo input or 40 seconds for monaural input. * Recording continues even if you release the built-in pedal switch. 3. When recording is finished, playback starts Press the built-in pedal switch a second time to stop recording. Playback of what you recorded begins simultaneously. Which means it's actually going to be easy to get an accurate loop tapped in. Plus there's overdub. But, neither of these has a way to stop/start the loop! So..are they considered contenders? the digitech unit seems not to be. What's the bare minimum feature set? andy > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Fri, 3/13/09, andy butler wrote: > >> From: andy butler >> Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:41 AM >> Rick Walker wrote: >> >>> CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS FOR THE BEGINNING LIVE >> LOOPER* >>> Personally, my vote goes to the Line 6 DL 4. At >> $250, it is the 2nd cheapest live looping stomp box pedal >> behind the Boss RC2 ($200) but >> >> In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been £250. >> I'd agree it's pretty good tho', and would add >> some more plusses >> to the ones you mentioned. It possesses that rare and >> underrated feature the "well thought out user >> interface". >> The echo that is available while looping is a nice bonus, >> and >> can just manage some mini-loops ...and who doesn't >> admire the "Bill Walker Signature" filtered echo >> sound. >> >> The RC2 is £150 here. >> >> The Akai Headrush can be had for just under £100. >> It at least allows to create a loop and overdub onto it, >> and a limited Undo capability. >> The delay settings are frustrating...grit your teeth when >> tapping a new >> delay time always leaves you with silence in the delay, but >> the analog tape sound >> is at least "interesting". >> >> >> >> The Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man at £130 has >> it's moments too. >> Worst feature is that you record a loop by holding down >> "tap" for the duration of the loop, not a good way >> to get rhythmic accuracy. >> No, wait a minute, worst feature is that you have put the >> unit into >> bypass before you can clear the loop. >> Well, the EHSMM is a lot of fun as a delay (superb imo), >> and as a looper it's ok >> to use in band for the odd loop trick or two. >> Wouldn't want to play a looping show with it as the >> only looper tho'. >> As a starter looper it's only an option if you're >> already in the market >> for a delay (tho' not a long enough delay for that sort >> of looping >> really, at 3s max). At least it allows you to put down a >> loop (42s)and overdub and >> perhaps find out if the you want to go for a fully featured >> looper. >> >> >> Of course, available very cheap £50=pp, or less I expect, >> and probably the most famous >> starter looper of all, with basic looper and dual long >> delay it's.... >> (guess first) >> >> http://tinyurl.com/ch4uwj >> andy butler > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 15:37:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87CC13BE8C; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wSbah3Mbargmvw3tttYab7u8kLwyhX6zyDQ8ugNpZv0=; b=cKdesqwKQqb2VmyT+5QUGw5j1fOUdOMJiy2CiMHqYigW55UFv73w2rgByHDN5DX665 n7ZkpMZJt1npZQY9qVZ/v+ygzeZhnvdFvwytv2rvRqe6tEWLhwOarcgZqfCu1f7t1uD7 NSqU7yWyk/SL+74WSrtF4vpNGul+wytJHDdJY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=C9wFAOvax4q7bKls9Tfzms1idQKfzl6W1FLPucBLoBzkKd7UiVRU77WvIhg+wNSO80 Z528WDF3Fv2GDTOPdTzlWyazOx2GBViLLuT/g03uDx3iypJJravo7mqMHU4QrgeXSajS CDNgmZgdADm840C7HqjwTBrYdYII5hhafVnsg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <591071.1706.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <154377.90648.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <591071.1706.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:37:00 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a69c2e0259046501dff7 Resent-Message-ID: <67egK.A.TIH.f2nuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:37:03 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a69c2e0259046501dff7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... will it be in european shops? 2009/3/12 L.Angulo > > this one is coming up soon and has a lot of that: > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html > > I am waiting impatiently! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Wed, 3/11/09, s o wrote: > > > From: s o > > Subject: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 8:40 PM > > hello everyone, > > i have been inactive for a very long time on this list. > > i'm playing in a duo where i would love to be able to > > skip traveling with a computer. > > so i'm wondering if there is now a hardware looper able > > to do very short SUBSTITUTE functions (like SooperLooper > > does). I tried a RC20 some years ago and was very > > disapointed with the command latency in general, i was very > > easely getting trap in the loop, which i manage to avoid > > with SooperLooper. > > beside, it was not possible to record super tiny bits with > > the RC20 (which i usually do to create grooves). > > Undo/Redo would also be good to have on a hardware looper. > > > > Thank you for any help or advice ;) > > > > St=E9phane > > > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --001636c5a69c2e0259046501dff7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... will it be in european shops?

2009/3/= 12 L.Angulo <la= baloops@yahoo.com>

this one is coming up soon and has a lot of that:

http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html

I am waiting impatiently!

www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Wed, 3/11/09, s o <obadi= asteph@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: s o <obadiasteph@yah= oo.com>
> Subject: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 8:40 PM
> hello everyone,
> i have been inactive for a very long time on this list.
> i'm playing in a duo where i would love to be able to
> skip traveling with a computer.
> so i'm wondering if there is now a hardware looper able
> to do very short SUBSTITUTE functions (like SooperLooper
> does). I tried a RC20 some years ago and was very
> disapointed with the command latency in general, i was very
> easely getting trap in the loop, which i manage to avoid
> with SooperLooper.
> beside, it was not possible to record super tiny bits with
> the RC20 (which i usually do to create grooves).
> Undo/Redo would also be good to have on a hardware looper.
>
> Thank you for any help or advice ;)
>
> St=E9phane







--
Raul Bonell= at Blogger: http://raulbonell.b= logspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--001636c5a69c2e0259046501dff7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 15:57:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40DC23BE8F; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:57:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236959864; bh=Iw13fMYz00MZ0IPj5bvjrJ9CgIPy47jEQM7D600WRNU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LnSMDVJyDVVuiyIz8HndMeuR0LJxiizukMqc6/9F9vUBheTjSdAkZpqlXMW0XO9AQ1eCdAc/BZuEGeyMX7UQVYXARVH419N0YMQ8Iz81plsRn6pxCFF9O+66KS/DTtiNRiKLZKzz7SpQuLA9NO4I2U7fZvyQn9hLQqT8y+OPTYU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uFUBevt9FL18kNPdhYutgnDrG0XIh07tnDTpBYhtkj5J9TK2CJ2nXlbqeUT6dan2xi6wd+IRLBCv5YVNiJ6ls7ulzcGsckMA6mQZlr6eLPYUrMO/Fm8J1FP3BN854uCMre7QhkmJX78Xl3TqvLYDg53wghmtT5ywyRhKniCd19U=; Message-ID: <191365.99151.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GT4KbQ4VM1naE.I_hEIeNltSpjqu0HJVAKk5MfHIVQvBasFWucoabUKJDDVnRj9ZxxqtkWGU4eprzlEjL_kh7blSsDTzHgsPiJs2EB.P2adofH1disq6CU4DnahCNwsXDDdrBZsX0xTZtoCWIb5hbIUjfRnkpT_LvU.AGDlhNzR3tZVbACMppj_IeMFueWAHUhL0seLDDKEgOKaUGMoSWmoS5GZsLt6jDhJKCFoAFhhs X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:57:43 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Least Costly Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090312231118.6F0EC3BEBE@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1392030423-1236959863=:99151" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:57:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1392030423-1236959863=:99151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i will chime in on this, since i am on a budget and don't own a "uber looper". -i got lots of mileage out of my old digitech rp100 w/ 2 sec of delay-i would create my whacky digital glitches and usually sample it to my dod d12 (6 sec of sample), for fun craziness. both of those are gone for me now, but 2 sec was what i usually played w/ on the rp100 (for many yrs!). i sold my rp100-for like 25$ a few yrs ago. i think i saw dod d12s selling for 85$ a while back, or in that range. -i use my new digitech rp150 w/ 5 sec of delay a lot. it was 99$, i know they have a new one coming out w/ a 20sec sampler in it. don't know release date. -the zoom g2-has 5 sec of delay, but you can't modulate it like the rp150 does, if you try to change the time, it resets. -i have played around w/ digitech digidelay, i sold mine for 50$ a few weeks back, it has 4sec, it's a great tool for starting (new they are 100$) -and i am very happy w/ the new boss dd7-it has 6 sec of delay and s-o-s loops for 20 (it's 180$ new). -and i got my old 5 min rec time boss rc20 for 150$ a yr ago. it's a great tool. -and for a while i was even using my old tascam 4 track (i got it free from my friend who is a professional musician, cost me a 100$ to get it up and running, but back in '00 couldn't get a recording device for 100$, so i thought it was worth it) and using 20 sec loop tapes (they are message tapes for old phone message devices), i usually was feeding one of my delays into it, but i got some great results w/ it, and i was even down to just 2 tracks (2 were sort of not working great), please note that about 2 yrs ago when i was in radio shack, i saw they had the loop tapes on clearance, so i bought a bunch, and i haven't seen them any more when i've been in radio shacks as of late. technology-out w/ old, in w/ new. so don't know how available they are anymore... -well, i think my point is, you don't have to buy some $1000 super-gizmotron device to start exploring. i have bought many things used on internet to try out (b/c in my area most places don't have a lot of sound tools to try out). it's hit and miss sometimes, but if i don't like something, i just resell it, move on.i take the loss as a "renting charge" and i learned something. good luck to those looking.... s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en --0-1392030423-1236959863=:99151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
i will chime in on this, since i am on a budget and don't own a "uber looper".

-i got lots of mileage out of my old digitech rp100 w/ 2 sec of delay-i would create my whacky digital glitches and usually sample it to my dod d12 (6 sec of sample), for fun craziness. both of those are gone for me now, but 2 sec was what i usually played w/ on the rp100 (for many yrs!). i sold my rp100-for like 25$ a few yrs ago.
i think i saw dod d12s selling for 85$ a while back, or in that range.

-i use my new digitech rp150 w/ 5 sec of delay a lot. it was 99$, i know they have a new one coming out w/ a 20sec sampler in it. don't know release date.
-the zoom g2-has 5 sec of delay, but you can't modulate it like the rp150 does, if you try to change the time, it resets.
-i have played around w/ digitech digidelay, i sold mine for 50$ a few weeks back, it has 4sec, it's a great tool for starting (new they are 100$)
-and i am very happy w/ the new boss dd7-it has 6 sec of delay and s-o-s loops for 20 (it's 180$ new).
-and i got my old 5 min rec time boss rc20 for 150$ a yr ago. it's a great tool.
-and for a while i was even using my old tascam 4 track (i got it free from my friend who is a professional musician, cost me a 100$ to get it up and running, but back in '00 couldn't get a recording device for 100$, so i thought it was worth it) and using 20 sec loop tapes (they are message tapes for old phone message devices), i usually was feeding one of my delays into it, but i got some great results w/ it, and i was even down to just 2 tracks (2 were sort of not working great), please note that about 2 yrs ago when i was in radio shack, i saw they had the loop tapes on clearance, so i bought a bunch, and i haven't seen them any more when i've been in radio shacks as of late. technology-out w/ old, in w/ new. so don't know how available they are anymore...
-well, i think my point is, you don't have to buy some $1000 super-gizmotron device to start exploring. i have bought many things used on internet to try out (b/c in my area most places don't have a lot of sound tools to try out). it's hit and miss sometimes, but if i don't like something, i just resell it, move on.i take the loss as a "renting charge" and i learned something.
good luck to those looking....
s----
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en

--0-1392030423-1236959863=:99151-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 16:06:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 844403BE8E; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236960402; bh=idfHiENvGqzM1YiZeGBSoMhdqd4sAN+RcwrKG9nwE+Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V7JyPlVcHNjL29NWMwy122z1wFvlsrtIGpoygTU/tK/0ct2T57uixPvrrc1GuZ8hqQR/8Iax5jxgUPmRQzKtTMfr3QGNH7AiXm4wunFsqVWblZh6mGhuQ6D7rlYJWOlIb1TxgHXI6tZUW0i6t/FQNDVfTs4Js+DNZJv0TO/1UUM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q91CXp4OR4lLJgKLbkRfnJvEIOkFtFUTrXUwmneaqoyqo6qmOwfYgAWjgqane2IVJk1oiy3mm8kFIpuH5SQJPFVotYekqJrfd2faJUIPWD7U2ZdU4wp5Mn1xE8VIwPF4m9+S6vbecu3fO0xGLPNGBPBdYXh7DEuZgJV3RTxkEU0=; Message-ID: <706536.20000.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vIEMZ4QVM1lnWK5q5Mgk6qFvWlgr8NWsDQi206RGQExfLZXzJwwdevRQo7_1F_evRPZfdNZHGQIR4SBNbE11OJC7cLodOKlNW8PRmVJBtFBIZD2uX9Fk0ATYzNyH9GldgPJNKOGDClTs8zx4iFUW1Z53jFtH4eAQnQ0oW2hLZV8Plqe_XeD7jD9dXnlqGOhu8B.klt9yH2F1tfJfBWki9nWhvUmykk1CBxHjCoJd7Ru. X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:06:42 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Least Costly Looping Solution -my P.S.... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090313153703.EF3953BE94@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-57351556-1236960402=:20000" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:06:43 +0000 (UTC) --0-57351556-1236960402=:20000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thinking of all the gear that's come and gone in my studio use-- i remember back in '03 getting a used korg kaoss pad, the 1st version. when i got that thing for 90$, i thought it was the most amazing tool. just loved it. it was my 1st device that had filter options-which i loved, = and the effects w/ the touch screen manipulation was WAY AMAZING (i'm a sim= pleton!). and the 5 sec of sample time was most fun too. now, a bunch of the presets = didn't work on mine, but i figured i only paid 90$ for it, i had it for abo= ut 2 years, when i got rid of it. i know they have new versions of it, don'= t know what the price are of them used.... the other thing i'm reminded of was an interview in tapeop w/ a hip/hop (or= might have been rap?) producer (can't remember the name) a few yrs back. h= e was talking about making records/sounds/beats back in the 80's of using t= urntables and boom boxes etc. then when the 1st sampler came out and it had= =A0 2 sec of sampling, he said how amazing it was, and how they really used= it, and what a great tool it was, and how it seemed like a miracle. then h= e said a yr later or so, a new sampler came out and it had like 5 sec of sa= mpling (or something longer), and how amazing that was....it was just inter= esting to hear someome talking about the explosion of technology at a time = long ago (THE 80's!!!!!!). apologize-for the paraphrased story..... happy hunting....& looping.... s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den =0A=0A=0A --0-57351556-1236960402=:20000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
thinking of all the gear that's come and gone= in my studio use--
i remember back in '03 getting a used korg kaoss pad= , the 1st version.
when i got that thing for 90$, i thought it was the m= ost amazing tool.
just loved it. it was my 1st device that had filter op= tions-which i loved, and the effects w/ the touch screen manipulation was W= AY AMAZING (i'm a simpleton!).
and the 5 sec of sample time was most fun= too. now, a bunch of the presets didn't work on mine, but i figured i only= paid 90$ for it, i had it for about 2 years, when i got rid of it. i know = they have new versions of it, don't know what the price are of them used...= .

the other thing i'm reminded of was an interview in tapeop w/ a hi= p/hop (or might have been rap?) producer (can't remember the name) a few yr= s back. he was talking about making records/sounds/beats back in the 80's o= f using turntables and boom boxes etc. then when the 1st sampler came out an= d it had  2 sec of sampling, he said how amazing it was, and how they = really used it, and what a great tool it was, and how it seemed like a mira= cle. then he said a yr later or so, a new sampler came out and it had like = 5 sec of sampling (or something longer), and how amazing that was....it was= just interesting to hear someome talking about the explosion of technology= at a time long ago (THE 80's!!!!!!). apologize-for the paraphrased story..= ...
happy hunting....& looping....
s----
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=0A=0A --0-57351556-1236960402=:20000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 16:10:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B4303BE98; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BA8579.10008@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:10:33 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution References: <191365.99151.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <191365.99151.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:10:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Scott, I definitely agree that even a simple tool is something one can learn from. I started looping with a Digitech PDS1002, then started up with the cassettes. For me, for a long time, $200 was way too much money to spend, but my cheap gear was interesting enough for me to get hooked. Re: the loop tapes, yeah, they're getting very hard to find. I bought a box of 100 answering machine tapes from Ebay for one cent in 2004, and still am using those for my static loops project (100 short loops, which I'll be releasing in a couple of months). But for my normal looping work, I splice my own tapes, using regular stock and cases. Between that and my $30 four-track, my setup is still super-budget, but still interesting to me. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > -and for a while i was even using my old tascam 4 track (i got it free > from my friend who is a professional musician, cost me a 100$ to get > it up and running, but back in '00 couldn't get a recording device for > 100$, so i thought it was worth it) and using 20 sec loop tapes (they > are message tapes for old phone message devices), i usually was > feeding one of my delays into it, but i got some great results w/ it, > and i was even down to just 2 tracks (2 were sort of not working > great), please note that about 2 yrs ago when i was in radio shack, i > saw they had the loop tapes on clearance, so i bought a bunch, and i > haven't seen them any more when i've been in radio shacks as of late. > technology-out w/ old, in w/ new. so don't know how available they are > anymore... > -well, i think my point is, you don't have to buy some $1000 > super-gizmotron device to start exploring. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 16:19:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 749CE3BEA0; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Return-Receipt-To:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=TKgP+DTARCeELMOSQkbv7lqqDtrVzh8nWWzWgrITUzp8wLdH0kYiRq7KyJ5l0l7oIIWULEGVpmCFbizWOJGOrkxgLow7vw4YTpLuy9drGW7yZJOlugSil6Cdol+TM7La8rZn+JO8cQyZ6bT9j6H24ekz2WQOnnOhbkOmQ9R8NaI= ; X-YMail-OSG: g_9h.ycVM1mm54Rg3Q1Rg_qZAiSOSjjtN5NVB.IXSDu.n92JQtIwr3x8wJWOwnRVj3unkrmQodu1CLEYOd7XG4UE3JPv20IrGNv8Ywkggj3rvpq3kVIqBSmwO48YcN_l7wARx2eC2HxkJ4ZNoNcgDcFazbjFiPmMZmC37Oqs5oSK.LvKD4UyJt.5CVkorM999_7CBocMSh19oyQebcBfKeAy2oz48UZRHgV08Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1072821935 Message-ID:<1072821935-1236961197-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1169238932-@bxe1217.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: Kalimbaman7@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Least costly looping device From: Kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:10:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <0qyIoB.A.h2.jeouJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:19:47 +0000 (UTC) LEAST COSTLY "LOOPingniPooL" Device: As many of you know I use the Digitech Jam-Man at $299, but there's also the Boss Rc-2 at $179 which is very simple to use. My mantra has been: Simple equipment + Creativity = Unique Musical Expression. -Kevin. www.myspace.com/KevinSpears Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 16:31:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37023BE94; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49BA984C.6070908@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:30:52 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #623 for March 12, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:31:57 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090312.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #623 March 12, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight was The Final Question on DiNDDL Records. Ian Boddy: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Psicodreamics Spellbound Fantasynth (Witches On the Radiowaves) Craig Padilla, Zero Perspective of Beyond the Portal (Lotuspike) Ohms, and Skip Disappearance Murphy Craig Padilla, Zero Realm of the Spirit Beyond the Portal (Lotuspike) Ohms, and Skip Murphy Parallel Worlds Mutating Relities Shade (DiN) Gary Wright Silent Choirs of Waiting To Catch the Light (Larkio) Phrozenlight Dark Moments Autumn (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ian Boddy Welcome To the The Final Question (DiNDDL) Soundhouse Ian Boddy Zero-G The Final Question (DiNDDL) Ian Boddy Earthbound The Final Question (DiNDDL) Ian Boddy Next To Nothing The Final Question (DiNDDL) Ian Boddy The Penultimate The Final Question (DiNDDL) Question 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight will be The Final Question on DiNDDL Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 16:46:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3034C3BE8E; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236962782; bh=OxC1mdGSuw8TqGFF9g/B90oM1jPtK/BdAY8YA1V1P2Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rb+THPCWG9Tr0Bx0QzN9vKSvZAxCEFYVi1Dw4+xSihsByWFIlNCTcPwv/NCHuaVbkljQgpXZ68VO9o/jX68aNHyH0MToINoE3lJhs1IsqEBftICeJw2owYDBJnUEnNdYhM0YNlhIeZrhp7xbMucVU2kl0EOEtZ4WO11fGoBfShc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pkyCC58ey/X3TOazdfkFJVY1jZvCcZvODYJKi21QQJBwq/cBdChwb2QnWlF9kHcvILFgEqy2ivm2UNy//Nt0RDjJrfNqyS7MVkO4hL13Ghzh+hKfVeUSz6l46GL7DHmRCO+4RwBS08ziaap8344Q9t1QPLVgTPEGEOTExLr8sDw=; Message-ID: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Hq.RmcwVM1lzEjcQiukMzF6WLrcV.ppm.OOEamEj9uCrH6q3U7oMWfd_7UX.ENPff5AURl3GzGmzGVOPMXBDPumN8NaAOEX.MzfMX1bMoLkG36PoBNgrS6bj5BfLrhOCGyzCEFhcmfppIPt0RAVhRCnNOlFvs_6n9ROqaeAaDH6lC7ddbRUyBIkENp82TId9MlWWea9ib9wRYmr91nKRSa7hItLAeq_DmIJ6FphvoP7aLylyQkl7eeuk4vRwVjlIQgcCN6IizuvjgazZSzQhGRNqkLCMBSs915HeDEfIXCgEq3c5IA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:46:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-409428446-1236962782=:53734" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:46:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-409428446-1236962782=:53734 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at the high kbps rate that was m= entioned a few e-mails back? =A0 Paul --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Miko Biffle wrote: From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more mid-r= angey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding.=A0 Comp= ression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum = of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have tha= t narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3's = of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basics of high= end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it. So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly listen to orchestral as well = as dense, heavy material on two very different and high quality systems.=A0= Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the difference between "CD Qualit= y MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough experience with AIFF to compare= to WAVE and MP3.=A0 Call me insensitive. =A0 -m --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" =0A=0A=0A --0-409428446-1236962782=:53734 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So, what software do folks use to rip CD= 's at the high kbps rate that was mentioned a few e-mails back?
 
Paul

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.co= m> wrote:

From: Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>
Sub= ject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM

For the most part, vinyl mastering and production es= thetics were more mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "ho= nkey" sounding.  Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer t= he broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of= recordings still have that narrower range and less bass, giving the record= ings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I und= erstand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I jus= t don't hear it.

So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly liste= n to orchestral as well as dense, heavy material on two very different and = high quality systems.  Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the di= fference between "CD Quality MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough expe= rience with AIFF to compare to WAVE and MP3.  Call me insensitive. &nb= sp; -m
--
Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
=0A=0A --0-409428446-1236962782=:53734-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 16:49:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C60FD3BE92; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236962997; bh=z6onvV++t/oA4XrRzF8Qh8FieGwmIpOPuMOAJ/0Y06E=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z18r2hAeQrNRg+Pl6u+UoGAX82dXWKKKZuKBaPOE1kpg+aDbEfKqb+yp6PLApPi1/MGIJqrme63bTeZvELk0Rpv1sKn5LReUqi9lHPW/dq9HoD+hK+U3jy04EQ9QerTlpp7/V1Q/ifb07lJRGs2VOQYbYG6duqVNlxdfRF/G30E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HpZlNs5o0Bm6c1yPnr4+SdIiEg3SeFXxsAXYtu+yTD79/DNy4oz6mIaJUiyTpbYrGn0CDXwkBNm5HjPGqQuf2L/MAE5ZtQed/4uaxaP4W1uqX35SI4QeeTslUon1NS3c4I+33UVrGxbMisRD92oih70X8CKHRdnlgtsjCvWLnI8=; Message-ID: <522241.64150.qm@web110209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: g3cjWCoVM1n5cK2UlHpEvTzngAsRi7yqw9UmnLNJdRH1S4BzKkAGFCkbYxAsh_ZuU6zhefb3bvsY_z5mkf4rnu9tC64gjWZ1kgcsg3M_KzO7jhSmlQnxQg.8fS9Zt4fSacFAIrv5mIk2tDEx8nZ8TbV8gDrnbQUV31sEMQPLIW4ZVAyjBgB0AerzbKcUMCBF8DnGKzB.A3jHcLIJu5Qzjq_ec3awDfYq2h6zlK9_UX73Gi78eaFORe_WAhS8gKPPeNdfTakfZOkgh2JuMbn5oFN7h456uK05cvm5AZzk4VzGVSuKng-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:49:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2087162322-1236962997=:64150" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:49:58 +0000 (UTC) --0-2087162322-1236962997=:64150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Silly me. I just checked Razor Lame and it offers high bit rates in an opti= ons menu. =A0 Paul --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Paul Richards wrote: From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 12:46 PM So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at the high kbps rate that was m= entioned a few e-mails back? =A0 Paul --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Miko Biffle wrote: From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more mid-r= angey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding.=A0 Comp= ression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum = of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have tha= t narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3's = of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basics of high= end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it. So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly listen to orchestral as well = as dense, heavy material on two very different and high quality systems.=A0= Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the difference between "CD Qualit= y MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough experience with AIFF to compare= to WAVE and MP3.=A0 Call me insensitive. =A0 -m --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-2087162322-1236962997=:64150 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Silly me. I just checked Razor Lame and = it offers high bit rates in an options menu.
 
Paul

--- On Fri, 3/13/09, Paul Richards <paulrichard_r= ocks@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.c= om>
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com
Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 12:46 PM


So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at the high kbps rate that = was mentioned a few e-mails back?
 
Paul

--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.co= m> wrote:

From: Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>
Sub= ject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM

For the most part, vinyl mastering and production es= thetics were more mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "ho= nkey" sounding.  Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer t= he broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of= recordings still have that narrower range and less bass, giving the record= ings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I und= erstand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I jus= t don't hear it.

So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly liste= n to orchestral as well as dense, heavy material on two very different and = high quality systems.  Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the di= fference between "CD Quality MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough expe= rience with AIFF to compare to WAVE and MP3.  Call me insensitive. &nb= sp; -m
--
Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"

=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-2087162322-1236962997=:64150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 17:06:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89AE13BEA4; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FfpqMBbozC1MR3SvZZ2hAywto2n7LuM/pw6/zcg97Ig=; b=YHX6Eo5EitSENaSbiujktRudFCfGG7SG8FyznZc+MBcTPm6v+LWQDxJIr5Q0IdfMl9 bN8f/EeplMMbOVpggbG7G7ZNxHdUQ3dzOqH+J/iP7rDezcFyQm0vXRQmFzoI3ayYhe+F MPsZcA1+uZiIZJgODaZAZ+iIe4jJXomtpvxmk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eq42YvNILsSTM4KW1lSx2oNkGeYBf6cEDvXXmW0PS8rauvfTBezUNATyyF4/cganbH LpRcf9hdxxDx6C3XS0Hdh6tQ1zVbHAwWZKPfH1wNwwS7EKP4voRNLz0na55ao0x+912t VE70973wWbF6qgcgVuGOGNDim+aoLMoGtGRDU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:06:37 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903131006n37335dfch234850fb3adb49f5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:06:38 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at the high kbps rate that was > mentioned a few e-mails back? > > Paul iTunes if I'm on Mac. SoundForge if I'm in Windows (or could be whatever application that uses the Lame compression algorithm). On Mac I rip to their lossless format for pleasure listening and to AAC if I just have to listen through something in order to getting to know it (before deleting the files). In Windows I rip to mp3. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 17:16:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09E3C3BEA2; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:16:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u1eeWkO/0aTMwyjzkQxwEzv1zebea+iYG/LNXUu57qc=; b=VyFYhaEfi0vc+4kdta++6ulErVHP2DZQDFVc35qenrAGc4/P2mM7BycS9NKHQpfJSL d9yrfUs/nbvnMdTCCeqfmvRwrwo44l7LRSMJgMSWEmbT75X62u5ENzEZ9G1X8s1wdF0h PQAPaGICxk7VRi1kghs812j5JaB0qdRMTMStA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=H2VdpqTMdFcvYsAmQZo8k+RRFpT5QLi+rgGjbsnH1L3bGIeXfDtW1pQwLfG4OxL1Nd pn/tLdyr/RgGD4gL2ojepzGuzmAtdAKlrfuXmirNJbSICSMQxhs+Nn0e7dgeAGKsZE9u EPk1h3PXApUQcNIzAfhQCT7musghqyEZEG6pM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:16:12 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903131016v2d622021s60061b1c7f59b0fe@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Least Costly Looping Solution From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Rick said: "Remember, things like all the freeware software loopers than abound don't really count, because you have to have a decent laptop and a decent breakout box to use them for free." This statement of yours does not appear to be true to me, and this is why: First of all, what are the hardware requirements of a freeware software looper? I remember a thread on the Mobius discussion group with a guy who had run Mobius (standalone) on a 800MHz Celeron machine. Now this is the kind of computer hardware that you'd have found lying around at the junkyard - about one to two years ago. Laptop computers with more than that power go for amounts considerably below the 100-buck-threshold on ebay. And finally, a lot of people today already do have a computer at their disposal, so the solution using free software is in fact free. However, there is still the fact that a computer solution does not come "ready to use out of the box". You need to setup various things, and actually using it for more than a first "I use my laptop microphone and push buttons onscreen with my mouse" test run of e.g. Mobius requires you to get a decent audio interface (or at the least adapter cables), a MIDI interface and a MIDI controller - all of which sum up to more than a cheap hardware looper. What's more, not being able to carry the thing to a band rehearsal (or to quickly get up in the middle of the night, plug in and loop) definitely will work out in favour of the hardware solution. My recommendation for a software looper would be Mobius, because it rules. For a stompbox one: I'm somewhat torn between the EH SMM w/Hazari and the Boss DD20. The former has that great varispeed option, the latter one is a really long delay (that also allows you to do multiply) with a "loop" mode that sucks. The DL4 you recommend is about 50% more expensive, and all that for two footswitches more. Then there's the Headrush, but with 3/4s of the price of the SMM, the lower price does not justify the lack in functionality compared to the SMM. Summarizing: At least for that first tryout of a looper, I don't know what's wrong with trying e.g. Mobius, especially if the person in question already has a computer (which could very well be a almost antique one by computer market cycles). For anything beyond that, a stompbox is the most cost-effective solution. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 17:24:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7666E3BEA4; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=z0WzEGOhiTXauQYK1lLCKjCANZAdGv3t2Wurex6Imp0=; b=HP20JW/igxAA716sKFz74b07ClsBpQBaIw9cWWqLWjtQ7LCyXbDF4JtqUQwQ4EkyJR eRciLpFaJwGRz22faB/ORB1XZIQyH+7Qiw25pOPm38FW1v4cLp0XZmOlAqEK5GDW73iy XHoE7xZINktmVKajYZ4DXVsW0JCbFIdACSGJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=I1MGOWULQP/OEXGJyNQ0XY5uJ/Em+DCSvvSmd0kO3/4476jswNUtQCG4WaEO3eEH+6 iK1L6ZxeYja56w0KSCXMYdJw1HCfjweGrvpc1zUnmdZqV4szXK4TUEQbNmIFDo8IAxPA t+c4awUGmwW5BGtfGqgzoBL5a34et+Z4EZdPM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:24:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:24:58 +0000 (UTC) I use QCD Media Player. Which uses the LAME encoder. www.quinnware.com On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at the high kbps rate that was > mentioned a few e-mails back? > > Paul > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, Miko Biffle wrote: > > From: Miko Biffle > Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM > > For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more > mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding. > Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal > spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings sti= ll > have that narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sou= nd. > MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basics= of > high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it. > > So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly listen to orchestral as wel= l > as dense, heavy material on two very different and high quality systems. > Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the difference between "CD Quali= ty > MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough experience with AIFF to compare= to > WAVE and MP3.=A0 Call me insensitive. =A0 -m > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 17:27:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 260CE3BEB2; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BA9779.3000202@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:27:21 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution References: <7334ca1b0903131016v2d622021s60061b1c7f59b0fe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903131016v2d622021s60061b1c7f59b0fe@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:27:29 +0000 (UTC) I don't know jack about this, but is it necessary to have the MIDI equipment? If it's just to be able to control functions remotely, I'd call that a secondary need. Couldn't one just buy one of the cheap M-Audio interfaces (i.e., Fast Track) for less than $100, plug a guitar or mic in, and use the mouse or keyboard to control the looping functions in Mobius? Manual control isn't so bad, I've always used my loopers on a tabletop anyway. (I do think hardware is an easier/more understandable way to get started, though...). Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > However, there is still the fact that a computer solution does not > come "ready to use out of the box". You need to setup various things, > and actually using it for more than a first "I use my laptop > microphone and push buttons onscreen with my mouse" test run of e.g. > Mobius requires you to get a decent audio interface (or at the least > adapter cables), a MIDI interface and a MIDI controller - all of which > sum up to more than a cheap hardware looper. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 17:29:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30D203BEB6; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1236965369; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=IoGMR5rvQnAy1zop/K1Yv8jl2OE=; b=ggGBIMooYfMi6wIDsdrJeehPKA7MxjZlmFLTRN/7ETY7Mlez7HZp1VJXADNRtqXz NaQQ1aKA+sVtqKvnW7H0YXBRfrrbGalSbmeoBxmRQdOVUv/FpZs/6t6ybfdb0tQs; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=dMZfGW12AAAA:8 a=vh5ydxU9OAQer65HVCwA:9 a=YxxO1Be98huHYV6dOS8A:7 a=hot6i_jPLLorLvhBmlizHYV3VWcA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001601c9a400$fa105760$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903131006n37335dfch234850fb3adb49f5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:27:23 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:29:30 +0000 (UTC) I generally use Winamp to rip cds and Sound Forge or Audacity to convert wav files that I record. I use 128 kbs for the web mostly but 320 for personal listening. I do have questions about VBR and CBR encoding. What are ya'lls thought on VBR max and min settings? Or benifits of VBR vrs CBR encoding. I can hear the difference between 320 kbs and 128 kbs. 320 sounds meatier maybe? My ears have been abused for many years so I am no audiophile at any rate. Jeff http://jeffduke.org/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 1:06 PM Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: >> So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at the high kbps rate that was >> mentioned a few e-mails back? >> >> Paul > > iTunes if I'm on Mac. SoundForge if I'm in Windows (or could be > whatever application that uses the Lame compression algorithm). On Mac > I rip to their lossless format for pleasure listening and to AAC if I > just have to listen through something in order to getting to know it > (before deleting the files). In Windows I rip to mp3. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 17:33:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18A5B3BEB9; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FTYuKS5TOej+8ssB1ZS4NOjICn1fitemkaAxNzi9g1Y=; b=x8Ulwn5jvyeIcZr8lLN/7HZu06FVmFVskNpYjH9/LNWgzk7wwAcoteBJoU6Fa9tWfH yGfsoY9Tahfw0Zz0ZQz1DGcQ2FvqHQSadPqFEJRWhn7FbTAKZlfzjQfTy9YIGL5hj1zy axaNm2ResLtqP7TOVxYeLBVb0eTNDkTlFL6NQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bqojoWt0eZRkZtabnbhPzd/fOmPWR6/M/rForGEjmHbe9PMB7kRmq3gyeHyKDGeH/j m5Oxwzvi5oZmJVZAU9z8DITTcgoAdfFalhySjgbJ8C1uGBLy5w4G3LEQIHWBsFc5PK0p dMpGggV9SamdunUcpjQmugjnySh/bvPNRmrMI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BA9779.3000202@mhorse.com> References: <7334ca1b0903131016v2d622021s60061b1c7f59b0fe@mail.gmail.com> <49BA9779.3000202@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:33:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:33:08 +0000 (UTC) It's not necessary to use a MIDI controller. You can map functions to the keyboard. On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I don't know jack about this, but is it necessary to have the MIDI > equipment? If it's just to be able to control functions remotely, I'd call > that a secondary need. Couldn't one just buy one of the cheap M-Audio > interfaces (i.e., Fast Track) for less than $100, plug a guitar or mic in, > and use the mouse or keyboard to control the looping functions in Mobius? > Manual control isn't so bad, I've always used my loopers on a tabletop > anyway. > > (I do think hardware is an easier/more understandable way to get started, > though...). > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> However, there is still the fact that a computer solution does not >> come "ready to use out of the box". You need to setup various things, >> and actually using it for more than a first "I use my laptop >> microphone and push buttons onscreen with my mouse" test run of e.g. >> Mobius requires you to get a decent audio interface (or at the least >> adapter cables), a MIDI interface and a MIDI controller - all of which >> sum up to more than a cheap hardware looper. > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 18:04:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB85D3BEB9; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=cgZCaXnKIR0Shh59/y4yH6KABsqBtVHlAp8Jjj9nvIY=; b=PBWcrE0NEQXxphaj3ezSoDRncOGDmvil/MRAkrt4gTKMsECpIj/Dg12pvghQrfaqYV JHI+NKrT30QYgq38TDqUr/WkFlkMGanLEcJKAFjDyC5mF5EBvPaYPP2nZjZs4sJPlFAp fkau3ToMNqA5HFYapMfmbLwKufEa8iEJPW+ik= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Av6/Ks3mGELFfc7BKiLzIGyy9cvQqaqVmsFJ/C7BjUmksH/usiC2ivtG7TDc2DiJ9/ KcUU7TIg6YWEW0Yl+QCiuaEFfLhmORgvDhAzrnUcgZjynZYtYB1fBMmPmbvpP1ihS3y3 /tFyh7b1t4k6JSCxeCvK/j5SIwaFCRU36PVvs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0903131016v2d622021s60061b1c7f59b0fe@mail.gmail.com> <49BA9779.3000202@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:04:05 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903131104v3d3d6ba2q5feb4a5b46fee79c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:04:06 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Tony K wrote: > It's not necessary to use a MIDI controller. =A0You can map functions to > the keyboard. LOL - that would make a nice show... playing instruments by hands and lifting up a leg (male dog style) to gently push down the overdub key by the side of your boot! ;-)) If I did that I would have to change laptops more often than I change MIDI pedal. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 18:06:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 355583BEB9; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 163201001/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.177.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.177.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmoBAPE8uklPTrGa/2dsb2JhbAAIjGzEUoN+Bocg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,358,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="163201001" Message-ID: <49BAA2A5.9070702@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:15:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s+ hifi tips References: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903131006n37335dfch234850fb3adb49f5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903131006n37335dfch234850fb3adb49f5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:06:14 +0000 (UTC) for completeness, I should mention that the most popular lossless compression system on windows seems to be FLAC, and that another possibility is "Shorten" Those have their own free downloadable software for file conversion. (google 'em) For high quality listening on a (relative) budget, I'd suggest a pair of Genelec powered monitors. Not cheap as such, but cheap considering their performance. I reckon they'd fairly cheerfully out shine an amp and speakers of comparable price from the "hi-fi" stores. (but *don't* just take my word for that) ...and for those of us who still spin cds, my latest discovery is to use a Philips DVP3005 DVD player just for it's audio. Dirt cheap on Ebay, (like £20), but I honestly couldn't hear a difference between that and a v.good £200 cd player ( and hardly any difference to a £500 Teac player) (don't risk similar models tho', very disappointing). andy butler Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Paul Richards > wrote: >> So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at the high kbps rate that was >> mentioned a few e-mails back? >> >> Paul > > iTunes if I'm on Mac. SoundForge if I'm in Windows (or could be > whatever application that uses the Lame compression algorithm). On Mac > I rip to their lossless format for pleasure listening and to AAC if I > just have to listen through something in order to getting to know it > (before deleting the files). In Windows I rip to mp3. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 18:13:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9D423BEC7; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:13:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: 2 new live improv's - Bansai Blues pt.2 and Surroundings (free download) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:12:29 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c9a407$45dabfe0$030313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: <000001c9a3d0$e66b5a50$030313ac@PIPO> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acmjz36QwpsG3q13T6eETtBI9KaGNAANxZzQ X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:13:29 +0000 (UTC) There's an iTunes podcast available now too...finally ;) It has been submitted to iTunes as well http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/podcast.xml --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 18:30:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D5393BEC3; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236969010; bh=Fe6mJY24xGTf9Lb7NAx0rH1bQqDW05lYWZVOtWV6tlo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=TIlDbW7L5Wh8AD7ExbWmGUwVENu7l2niu28u8Y2Cv55hdDPrTuEvdXf3tyScGul4lmvakaCIwMZxcLj9jXJSMi753ZSjaqIVMRbTpf/rDyDptMaz9kvReDYovgfVh9mK5MTclNkVO2u+ZFryDbECRtOjI9ToQaIbgNQ7m1Ur/oc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AXQdGEqfOCHvNErPEHOErrqwAFgFZ4AuFf+gmrg2fgIygvmHx+o29wS7MxprTNw5pT0WayqxEK5aC173KBwtQAiVPrEvQI5/I69L8FVC1j7Wvz4INF1cQeN3z+6tGbgxRKGb3Sn3FMg/86diDGAmD1SrXDWVuTTZhIwm4WKozgE=; Message-ID: <130664.31538.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sV0Wr7gVM1l5UxuT12SqOzNlWKjnTd2s3Dsk6O1wSaPnya5MC_dewZEWVeRQDKNYF1CUt0VMzsjz9J0g0BwW3kwNGH7Ei1fVOc.URlVtjFncgGzStyw7Ne8knhGp8ENzj7IcuJWOzefIC_XyzmnikN3XGJThHC9EuXNu72hlvUQNcrxB0F9CotUDhBblKTApuf8- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:30:11 +0000 (UTC) it will take time to get here but i would imagine so,the boomerang did hit = the european stores at one point www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Raul Bonell wrote: > From: Raul Bonell > Subject: Re: Hardware looper with substitute functions + undo/redo > To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" > Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 8:37 AM > ... will it be in european shops? >=20 > 2009/3/12 L.Angulo >=20 > > > > this one is coming up soon and has a lot of that: > > > > http://www.boomerangmusic.com/Rang%20III.html > > > > I am waiting impatiently! > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/11/09, s o > wrote: > > > > > From: s o > > > Subject: Hardware looper with substitute > functions + undo/redo > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 8:40 PM > > > hello everyone, > > > i have been inactive for a very long time on this > list. > > > i'm playing in a duo where i would love to be > able to > > > skip traveling with a computer. > > > so i'm wondering if there is now a hardware > looper able > > > to do very short SUBSTITUTE functions (like > SooperLooper > > > does). I tried a RC20 some years ago and was very > > > disapointed with the command latency in general, > i was very > > > easely getting trap in the loop, which i manage > to avoid > > > with SooperLooper. > > > beside, it was not possible to record super tiny > bits with > > > the RC20 (which i usually do to create grooves). > > > Undo/Redo would also be good to have on a > hardware looper. > > > > > > Thank you for any help or advice ;) > > > > > > St=E9phane > > > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 18:59:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F7A73BEC3; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1847 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:59:04 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.2 X-EN-IMPSID: SiUC1b00702goRm0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:27:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s+ hifi tips In-Reply-To: <49BAA2A5.9070702@tiscali.co.uk> References: <845503.53734.qm@web110205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903131006n37335dfch234850fb3adb49f5@mail.gmail.com> <49BAA2A5.9070702@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20090313185904.0C8D33BEB2@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 18:59:04 +0000 (UTC) At 2009.03.13 11:15 AM, andy butler wrote: >for completeness, I should mention that the >most popular lossless compression system on windows seems >to be FLAC, Not just a windows codec: http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html Flac is also supported by a number of digital audio players >and that another possibility is "Shorten" Though some content in shorten is available at archive.org, the format is no longer widely used. Flac has supplanted it. Since shorten is lossless, you can convert it back to wav and then compress using another scheme. I use Exact Audio Copy with FLAC. http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/en/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 19:31:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECA143BEC4; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:31:17 -0500 Subject: RE: Least Costly Looping Solution Thread-Topic: Least Costly Looping Solution Thread-Index: AcmkBhu/vsMOgNPtRxmuVDX7ap6ocgAByzkg Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA319C5@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7334ca1b0903131016v2d622021s60061b1c7f59b0fe@mail.gmail.com> <49BA9779.3000202@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0903131104v3d3d6ba2q5feb4a5b46fee79c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903131104v3d3d6ba2q5feb4a5b46fee79c@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:31:20 +0000 (UTC) > It's not necessary to use a MIDI controller. =A0You can map functions to > the keyboard. Over on the Mobius list (I think, or was it here?) we've had occasional discussions of hacking cheap USB keyboards or numeric pads to make "footswitches". Pry the keycaps off and glue something to a few keys to make them easier to press with feet. I know several people have done this. It ain't pretty, and I'm sure you have to replace them often but it works. So, it's hard to state the "cheapest" configuration for software looping, it depends on how technically savvy you are, how concerned you are about audio quality, and how goofy you will look stepping on a broken keyboard. AUDIO If you can live with the partial latency compensation in Mobius then you can use the integrated audio device and don't have to buy an ASIO device. This will behave as well as a DL4 except for one thing: when you end the recording of a new loop we'll have to skip a bit forward when playing back for the first time. If you want low-latency then many people have had success using ASIO4ALL to add an ASIO device driver on top of the integrated audio device. It's hit or miss though, it looks like it works over half the time but sometimes it doesn't. It requires some tech knowledge and a willingness to dick around. Most people that take it seriously I would imagine will buy something like this, scratch-n-dent for $70: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=3D703606X There are at least a dozen audio interfaces clustered around the $100 mark, some have MIDI: http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/Tascam-US122L-USB2.0-Audio-M= idi-Computer-Interface?sku=3D242192 MIDI If you find the concepts of "Threshold Recording" and "Automated Recording" in Mobius acceptable then you don't need anything to get the initial loop down. You will have to reach over with a free hand if you want turn overdub on and off though. If you can live with the shame of stepping on a broken USB keyboard with your snazzy lizard cowboy boots, then you don't need anything. Buy a $10 USB keyboard and molest it. If you want a more substantial footswitch, then you first have to get a MIDI interface. If you bought an audio interface it may already have one. Otherwise this for $30 http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product/CME-U2MIDI-MIDI-to-USB-Cable= ?sku=3D703036 If you're good with a soldering iron, this can be hacked to be a normal MIDI switch for $60 http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Randall-4Button-MIDI-Footswitc= h?sku=3D180290 Or this for $100 http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.com/product/CME-GPP3-USB-Programmab= le-Grand-Piano-Style-MIDI-Pedal?sku=3D703039 Or more likely the industry standard FCB1010 for $150. This is usually the stumbling block for most people.=20 SUMMARY The following options assume as a basis that you have a laptop that is less than 5 years old and is not factored into the cost. Option1: hacky/goofy $10 ASIO4ALL + USB keyboard Option2: audio/goofy ~$110 any 2 channel USB audio interface + USB keyboard Option3: audio/midi $280 $130 audio interface with MIDI + FCB1010 Jeff= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 19:41:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CA393BEC4; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+bjflA322FnjWu18GnNjftzt8ZMkMkixacTrCX5ffrw=; b=IAiCjAF1x2nHqOSQbgCIUNHR0cgGObRpZ0s25fHbgaG9ZpQI2+nTWEI9HWwRdtM+he 7Znp09lGZOHGACCmhdGUb5mLElpdrzxuqiAhDk2elr6VK2NCl0GFPy0WstZFQzVAKcWS J5WYdwW3JOpJh3Ctp5lIzMS+Ap4p7IPLUJTOs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=BvAsCdXxt1GzJ5PU3Kh4GaaET/cjgqkHhuCa9oMrSjOWw3FJ2ik6iQWsjR1nQzoimu K5o7ej+mEs+do4jCHHu2OXl7Ar5zdJA/zml+0Ev3EGm/Tmne3gnuWCix/i6pBXLZbqCg tqjy7e8LloK0Fkfag88hsrwR5L4FXYeUuMyOw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:41:41 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 010e48526c8400cd Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bcf936bd880465054ae1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:41:42 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bcf936bd880465054ae1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark, > I WANT that sleeve, being carefull with it, putting it on, waiting, and > listening with a big cup of tea/beer/spliff (tick relaxant of choice > I used to think I did, too. But I have to admit I've changed my mind on that score. The ease and flexibility - not to mention availability - of MP3s and similar is just too enticing. It helps that here in Denmark, the largest phone/net company (TDC) offer free music downloads with their phone and net accounts (admittedly it's DRM infested WMVs, but there are ways around that), so having access to 4 million plus songs for free and legally gives one a rather different perspective. I haven't bought a CD in over a year (from buying 10-15 per month). Coupled with an eMusic account and various freebie sites, my musical appetite is well and truly filled. As to sound quality, I have an Apple-TV coupled to my serious mid-fi stereo system. Yes, I can hear a difference to the CD. But I certainly could't say which is 'better'. I'm over 40, so I can't hear much over 12 kHz anyway ... IMO, anyone who claims to be able to hear any meaningful quality difference between 192+ kbps MP3 and CD (through decent hardware) is either deluded or lying. > I must be honest, that since I downloaded EVERY Beatles album, I havent > listened to them, since I downloaded EVERY Aphex twin Album I havent > listened to him... and since I downloaded 80 albums by Merzbow, I certainly > havent listened to HIM!!! > BTDT. I've listened to them all. Several times. Still can't see what all the fuss is about with those Beatle chaps though .... > The guys in my office, listen on iPod.. OK fair enough, I cant do that... > and for that the mp3/iTunes combo os fine.. EVERYTHING is available, but you > load yer device.. theres yer choice.. > An iPod is a godsend if you have 2+ hours train commute every day ... More or less useless for anything else. > Has anyone, every been to town, bought an album on mp3, sat on the > trainunpacking it/ reading every word on the cover/ reading the lyrics, got > home, went to room, put on record, laid on bed, played it loud... then > played it AGAIN!!! > Apart from the going to town bit, in effect, yes! Ian --001636c5bcf936bd880465054ae1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark,

I WANT that sleeve, being carefull with it, putting= it on, waiting, and listening with a big cup of tea/beer/spliff (tick rela= xant of choice

I used to think I did, too. But I have to admit I'= ;ve changed my mind on that score. The ease and flexibility - not to mentio= n availability - of MP3s and similar is just too enticing. It helps that he= re in Denmark, the largest phone/net company (TDC) offer free music downloa= ds with their phone and net accounts (admittedly it's DRM infested WMVs= , but there are ways around that), so having access to 4 million plus songs= for free and legally gives one a rather different perspective. I haven'= ;t bought a CD in over a year (from buying 10-15 per month). Coupled with a= n eMusic account and various freebie sites, my musical appetite is well and= truly filled.

As to sound quality, I have an Apple-TV coupled to my serious mid-fi st= ereo system. Yes, I can hear a difference to the CD. But I certainly could&= #39;t say which is 'better'. I'm over 40, so I can't hear m= uch over 12 kHz anyway ... IMO, anyone who claims to be able to hear any me= aningful quality difference between 192+ kbps MP3 and CD (through decent ha= rdware) is either deluded or lying.
=A0
I must be honest, that since I downloaded EVERY Beatles album, I havent lis= tened to them, since I downloaded EVERY Aphex twin Album I havent listened = to him... and since I downloaded 80 albums by Merzbow, I certainly havent l= istened to HIM!!!

BTDT. I've listened to them all. Several times. S= till can't see what all the fuss is about with those Beatle chaps thoug= h ....
=A0
The guys in my office, listen on iPod.. OK fair enough, I cant do that= ... and for that the mp3/iTunes combo os fine.. EVERYTHING is available, bu= t you load yer device.. theres yer choice..

An iPod is a godsend if you have 2+ hours train commute every day ... More = or less useless for anything else.
=A0
Has anyone, every been to town, bought an album on mp3, sat on the tra= inunpacking it/ reading every word on the cover/ reading the lyrics, got ho= me, went to room, put on record, laid on bed, played it loud... then played= it AGAIN!!!

Apart from the going to town bit, in effect, yes!
=
Ian

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So, what software do folks use to rip CD's at th= e high kbps rate that was mentioned a few e-mails back?

Exact Audio Copy (EAC).

Ian

--001636c5ab8e2b4627046505a193-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 21:19:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEC753BE97; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 777 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:19:42 UTC Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:06:26 -0600 From: Shayne Cafferata Subject: couple of long improvs To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: analogue@hyperreal.org Message-id: <49BACAD2.8000904@sasktel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=1.12.7400:2.4.4,1.2.40,4.0.166 definitions=2009-03-13_11:2009-03-13,2009-03-13,2009-03-13 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0811170000 definitions=main-0903130168 Resent-Message-ID: <7_fDZD.A.gKF.u3suJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:19:42 +0000 (UTC) after years of mostly lurking here, i finally have gotten around to transfering some tunes to my computer. here are a couple that my buddy and i recorded on his trusty ol' br1100. http://www.sendspace.com/file/1rif3u me - emx, es1mk2, ea-1, ddm110/220, DAED speak and deth, dw8000, ex800, mg-1, x911, guitar, ebow buddy - guitar this marathon clocks in at over 2 hours. hey, it's ok, you don't have to listen to the whole thing - i haven't. not all at once anyway. there are pleasant stretches and unlistenable stretches but my favorite part is actually the last 15 min - the never-ending ending. the speak and deth starts around 1:03. i mess around with it a bit, then tune a loop and leave it as a drone for the remainder. http://www.sendspace.com/file/7zr1z8 me - tb303, ddm220, tr66, drumulator, dw8000(arpeggiator pad), mg-1, x911 buddy - guitar this one's just over 30 min. much more texture and subtlety than the other. shayne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 21:21:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C380E3BEA4; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VSIRPi/BE9p4RyjPg+Bc2O4fu5r7X6+Nny3/Kd0Ng2M=; b=RHQhZaAADbo5baTCFAeZTL9+RhJgXSpIIM3ffwaTyEDEDpI8o9J/tth+3A9Ts7UHZs GZnBBu8bPgVM0ef6rpTEZaL0XctKiBaVLn+iDSFsr+8X5ZaauSFy9UzC8XIzoKWRnvJL boeyC5mPXr7s5PCv7UHFoyECQ6mtS6pyLqHM8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=l2WJafw4jFRP/3953BdntbqWYXNL/aMPGA1q9bzVaFo767vV5t4R16QwccHkjuOWlj h9mGN6QvTyZHY9RrQtpguX580K8JXbp4ulFKDqUvOn27dFio2sdNnPwd+hrxi6ihxFfw Ph2YUlN61ETcj44Yk4nkXCraU4OHu/aaZFcQU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:21:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32d063dbc15046506aef4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:21:15 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32d063dbc15046506aef4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I feel lucky - I really don't hear anything bad when I listen to mp3. I can actually put on headphones and listen to an album off my computer and just zone out (if I like the album). I try to encode 'em at a high rate when I can. But frankly, most of us can't afford nice audiophile sound systems. Most of the music I hear these days is through a $50 set of computer speakers at work. It's interesting to read though - I'm just about to do a web-release of some older cd's in the next few weeks. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com --000e0cd32d063dbc15046506aef4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I feel lucky - I really don't hear anything bad when I listen to mp3. I= can actually put on headphones and listen to an album off my computer and = just zone out (if I like the album).

I try to encode 'em at a hi= gh rate when I can. But frankly, most of us can't afford nice audiophil= e sound systems. Most of the music I hear these days is through a $50 set o= f computer speakers at work.

It's interesting to read though - I'm just about to do a web-re= lease of some older cd's in the next few weeks.

Matt Davignonwww.ribosomemusic.com
--000e0cd32d063dbc15046506aef4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 22:52:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D1883BE8C; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BAE39E.9030104@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:52:14 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8vYtjD.A.0DB.jOuuJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: "Well, as we've discussed here before, there's a good chance they already have a laptop, especially if they're in their twenties and went through college, so I wouldn't completely discount this as an option." I hear you, Jeff, but to be honest, I know a lot of creative young musicians in their twenties who live in Santa Cruz and I would say that fully 2/3 of them haven't gone to college and don't have the financial resources to buy a laptop. It may be different in different locals because Santa Cruz is pretty anomolous, soicologically speaking and the wages here are lower (by comparison to rents) than most places in the country. The good news is that we are beginning to see laptops on sale for as little as $400 (USD) With your aforementioned footpedals and breakout box this brings the tab up to about $700 (USD)RE There still , of course, is no live looping hardware solution that approaches what Mobius can do in the price range so it's a great investment to make if you have the money. I just wanted to make a post for the musicians who have very, very little money. There are a lot of them out in America at least, especially these days. ps All incredible respect to you and what you've done for the looping community so this is not intended as an 'us and them' kind of post. I fully respect your solution for live looping. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 22:57:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EBF53BE97; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BAE4C7.8060603@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:57:11 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:57:14 +0000 (UTC) Andy wrote: "In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been £250. " Good lord, I never knew that. I've always wondered why so few Brits use them. That must be the reason. On this side of the pond, it was the very cheapest one on the market for a long time until the advent of the RC-2. I think the Akai Headrush is more expensive here in the states too. Is the Line 6 DL4 more expensive in Europe as well? How about Japan? South America? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 23:34:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FEE53BE8C; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:34:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004801c9a434$4d9dc650$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <49BAE4C7.8060603@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:34:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:34:37 +0000 (UTC) I think I paid £199 for my DL4 around 7 or 8 years ago. I thought that was pretty expensive, but I have used it a lot and I think I have got my money's worth out of it. I would be reluctant to pay that much for one now though, let alone £250. The ones being made now are apparently pretty unreliable. I think they are made of plastic now (not sure about that) so surely they should be cheaper. At least mine is still working well and still getting lots of use. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:57 PM Subject: re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Andy wrote: "In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been £250. " Good lord, I never knew that. I've always wondered why so few Brits use them. That must be the reason. On this side of the pond, it was the very cheapest one on the market for a long time until the advent of the RC-2. I think the Akai Headrush is more expensive here in the states too. Is the Line 6 DL4 more expensive in Europe as well? How about Japan? South America? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 13 23:37:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 148443BE8B; Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=3RFUDhrBi5FjZ8Q1Cm82tu9mkKyNEVYLeTwNMwI9JIjJ+vRLzrFWtcbuNleN28QMbfbGabQGERDtyQptoi2irZRfhVPNZRokWKeljKhMBrojHl8KlxBSI6UOtMShIXwD1hAGtvIZhpCavNBrvtZp801wBtfutV3tqPOKHIcjp1s= ; X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <004801c9a434$4d9dc650$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> References: <49BAE4C7.8060603@cruzio.com> <004801c9a434$4d9dc650$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-982200311 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:37:17 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 23:37:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-982200311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed The new ones are still metal but feel a bit different. Seem more =20 reliable although the switches are dodgy on both versions. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 13 Mar 2009, at 23:34, Stephen Moyes wrote: > I think I paid =A3199 for my DL4 around 7 or 8 years ago. I thought =20= > that was pretty expensive, but I have used it a lot and I think I =20 > have got my money's worth out of it. I would be reluctant to pay =20 > that much for one now though, let alone =A3250. The ones being made =20= > now are apparently pretty unreliable. I think they are made of =20 > plastic now (not sure about that) so surely they should be cheaper. =20= > At least mine is still working well and still getting lots of use. > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 10:57 PM > Subject: re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution > > > Andy wrote: > "In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been =A3250. " > > Good lord, I never knew that. I've always wondered why so few Brits > use them. That must be the > reason. > > On this side of the pond, it was the very cheapest one on the =20 > market for > a long time until the > advent of the RC-2. I think the Akai Headrush is more expensive here > in the states too. > > Is the Line 6 DL4 more expensive in Europe as well? > > How about Japan? > > South America? > > > > --Apple-Mail-1-982200311 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 The new ones are still metal but feel a bit different. Seem more = reliable although the switches are dodgy on both versions.

=
Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 13 Mar 2009, = at 23:34, Stephen Moyes wrote:

I think I paid =A3199 for my DL4 around 7 or 8 years = ago. I thought that was pretty expensive, but I have used it a lot and I = think I have got my money's worth out of it. I would be reluctant to pay = that much for one now though, let alone =A3250. The ones being made now = are apparently pretty unreliable. I think they are made of plastic now = (not sure about that) so surely they should be cheaper. At least mine is = still working well and still getting lots of use.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" = <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, March 13, = 2009 10:57 PM
Subject: re: Least Costly Live = Looping Solution


Andy = wrote:
"In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's = always been =A3250. "
Good lord,=A0 I never knew that. =A0 I've always wondered why so = few Brits
use them.=A0 That must be the
reason.

On this side of the pond, it was = the very cheapest one on the market for
a long = time until the
advent of the RC-2. =A0 I think the Akai Headrush is = more expensive here
in the states = too.

Is the Line 6 DL4 more expensive in Europe as = well?

How about Japan?

South America?




=

= --Apple-Mail-1-982200311-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 00:01:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ED783BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=U7VcHTrPFHsUhchvrzYIOVajMydLzLcWURRkRBMd5Ik=; b=DdO6QXcZnGOQcHTXqtA5Ect+UynXeS5RNaeDgjMyAm55HvkucpRVzyg6962LsERn6I 2COY2RC04pt866qd1c3V0ctq4lNk6vukl7t1xSocT4gAltafnbIosZySDyg3Bj6/EdOX n/m6a1zprYjd9BbUzpYJ7UDs1kQWiWF9F0Dl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hvKmbk1i4zJMOSyxhPATFGR3cF0OxlZh0OGwJ0ebdhcQWaJ0i2HIzVFTFPibhEtetR Xx4tXtxsT4efGq7qux0GqMjfUkfpyvYKbP7QZyhlutgyT84HQkMlntx1InvksThAizjO B9VZCoRUrKo/6ZYvCSy6POoZIyH+p4sT4tYdM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:01:11 -0400 Message-ID: <4759e5740903131701t6a7863e7t7d19c0f1beb2f193@mail.gmail.com> Subject: hey all. a little New York City Gig happenin' Stravinsky and loopage. From: todd reynolds To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0a884435fb2046508ea58 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:01:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0a884435fb2046508ea58 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been 'head buried' for awhile, trying to finish a record, so sorry I'v= e been a lousy contributer and even reader these last months... Did wanna reach out though to my NYC Looping community. Evan Ziporyn and I are going to be doing 20 minutes of Stravinsky (a soldier's tale) and 25 minutes of looping electronica at Le Poisson Rouge on Sunday night, 3/15, this upcoming one in fact at 8pm. Link is clickable below. If you end up comin' do let me know, kay? Click to view this email in a browser all the best to you all! Todd =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =95 At the studio in North Adams, finishing the record, down to New York in fits and starts for the next two months. =95 Meredith Monk at the Guggenheim on March 5th =95 Todd Reynolds/Evan Ziporyn Stravinsky project at Le Poisson Rouge on March 15th. http://toddreynolds.com http://twitter.com/digifiddler http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic http://blog.toddreynolds.com --001636e0a884435fb2046508ea58 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been 'head buried' for awhile, trying to finish a record, = so sorry I've been a lousy contributer and even reader these last month= s... Did wanna reach out though to my NYC Looping community. =A0

Evan Ziporyn and I are going to be doing 20 minutes of Stravinsky (a s= oldier's tale) =A0and 25 minutes of looping electronica at Le Poisson R= ouge on Sunday night, 3/15, this upcoming one in fact at 8pm.=A0

Link is clickable below. =A0If you end up comin' do let = me know, kay?


all the best to you all!=A0

To= dd

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

= =95 At the studio in North Adams, finishing the record, down to New York in= fits and starts for the next =A0two months.

=95 =A0Meredith Monk at the Guggenheim on March 5th

=95 =A0Todd = Reynolds/Evan Ziporyn Stravinsky project at Le Poisson Rouge on March 15th.=

http://toddreynolds.com
= http://twitter.com/digifiddler
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--001636e0a884435fb2046508ea58-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 05:54:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40D5B3BE90; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BB4676.4040900@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:53:58 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Here we go Loop-d-Loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:54:02 +0000 (UTC) Bird Loves Ray Charles (who actually does sing, "Here we go loop-d-loop") http://www.maniacworld.com/bird-loves-ray-charles.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 05:55:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23DCE3BE97; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:55:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49B985D9.2010708@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hooo Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 22:55:42 -0700 References: <20090312185518.2749C3BED2@arsenic.violacea.com> <49B985D9.2010708@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 05:55:44 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 12, 2009, at 2:59 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Bill wrote: > "you can get two Mac minis... and the cost is significantly less > than a MB Pro. Many people bring an extra guitar or bass or even a > synth. Imagine having backup for something as critical to the show > as your computer is!" > > I see your logic, but this is only a solution for local gigging or > gigging where you are driving. > Weight restrictions might prohibit this solution when flying (unless > one just plays a single instrument). > For me, I'm nickle and diming every single kilo when I have to fly. But if something happens to your "instruments", Rick, that can be resolved with a trip to the local novelty shop. ;-) Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 07:54:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 439BE3BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237017272; bh=u9b11yzr30iiBNLOahpnbDNcahoi9+mNtLY0/qMNtKA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XAdj0FLSpc09PgNgQK7psF25/i69ou/eD5mf9W2Is4lKt0NWYD/oEz7fkt5/vRrVKkFPxmmp7BnKCbZS9sFldsCnpMb3Eesu4AxDo09h26Xx5cHRoK1QZiMFTTUqiV69DhcHa4r7lIrM3adTMGA0WyoWl5Fmx5sHflbX+nX/mcY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4MScTM9J7PL791NVoRkreKQW2yfbI6cHdgus4i+MP1Ri21+XiTh3DZ0gees21jen9fUDIATm45yLE0VACHeePU8XjUmP0b/yA9iGQ0+BzrypRBntDUV0RONdgRfIxFHTdRGBW6Nr5A0Rti3ihhgxN5U3uCPvPt0sbkNQsvgVazE=; Message-ID: <85777.80561.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xuyX7CwVM1l_OElAp1SrKk1BJYrEMc3CfSZCrBd.uTOGMUM9T1oBGP1Lb51Rqlajc5meg8J71zxnphZjCuSBht45byqpFd2SDpWyPmHu6yVMNJsPgAJyPVNLYdykPvcLKEGQ1949hq7y7Le9Ri_YwLrLrFGyEln.irjkLvp3skO9MgMC16Q54TxdmN0m8uRJoejx0Cn49sVMM6Sio2SjLHwus6x9g8UH X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:54:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Here we go Loop-d-Loop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49BB4676.4040900@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:54:33 +0000 (UTC) that bird sure can rock www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 3/13/09, Rick Walker wrote: > From: Rick Walker > Subject: Here we go Loop-d-Loop > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 10:53 PM > Bird Loves Ray Charles (who actually does sing, "Here > we go loop-d-loop") > > http://www.maniacworld.com/bird-loves-ray-charles.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 09:30:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB0493BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:30:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237023036; bh=6zlrNehpuFDoEzO1rI+8urePJHJ+BJz+E5inzhewl3Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=uuRpyPDRgBc0f6VKZlJMf5wE2Wnn16H94926UuAgXaRrH+03UNNAvj9rHAcED/9J01pL4sYRQpr5Xlp/PpALHGSfIkyPVLs3XgcPXHrQ1JicEH0jNjWfu8MlESR4Obsav7CVaNAc1eKFzXX7dcX4bOHn6s6r1AifAOW5SZBZicE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FKN3daIFJUecrqO8zkX1UJ1yxoI9pRzl7fHeHj/EY6jsGpKFwm7ZUWa/hrPiRf0JVifx0EOeLN3J+PM4/l1L/YqS2ibbmpKpiI+Y/Uj6DHhMOT52OKVSf6zOIUnRmfURQS+4Dxu6DDqBQbQHi3e6GqX6lbYuJorULCv+K4Ro1EM=; Message-ID: <903131.38850.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Vv55KvYVM1l0kNF58UmTd_sTQ2MXymk6JYA1jNsrUDaBnreD8tsPWAFVpRNDu0_Tf5ma5n0bgkMf0eafD99EIQsI_nxAkueAYU8UqQ2kxdlDor1uqxm.fv4HUCeCmBSJzbPpfWnEKN.4uvSpSPXn1xaljdcJzbluwm7bfHRMGnDDowL8TI3n1mDlVnZwe9F6xOZ2FnLMCb6RRBD.heeKrbyALGTYKWc- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:30:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8AnNP.A.D-G.9k3uJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:30:37 +0000 (UTC) I agree,i wish the Hendrix recording had a bit more bass do any of the Hend= rix remastered recordings sound better? i got the Zeppelin collection as a = present and it sounds so good that you would think they were recorded recen= tly! then again that drum sound sounded good on vinyl as well back then! cheers Luis > > For the most part, vinyl mastering and production > esthetics were more > > mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little > "honkey" sounding. > > Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer > the broader tonal > > spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but > most of recordings still > > have that narrower range and less bass, giving the > recordings a dated sound. > > MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. > I understand the basics of > > high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just > don't hear it. > > > > So I have no problem with MP3's and regularly > listen to orchestral as well > > as dense, heavy material on two very different and > high quality systems. > > Utility is awesome and I just don't hear the > difference between "CD Quality > > MP3" and .wav files. I haven't had enough > experience with AIFF to compare to > > WAVE and MP3.=A0 Call me insensitive. =A0 -m > > -- > > Miko Biffle > > Biffoz@Gmail.com > > "Running scared from all the usual > distractions!" > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 09:52:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB3E13BE8E; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237024321; bh=EDSSZawFmTqLkgJotSNgVKckH/ZjL51aAo/lLC/AMlU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=doYnqP9I5iRpuBhMJ02vcStDkM5xhrE8TwmE6hyutsjDwbk/yEThr8nkRy5prnlbwmIr4E2hHz39+H2/zlJd7I4fJ51oLadtU9O75SXvdldfVbOSOYXZw0TgurXemasnfjZ1eF68xXtjqMOUjvMAWETgzSazWrZ9PhSDw6MU5v4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QDdR7G2hIMQ/tv9vI2J1UVNJzGYKklnfzTKcxzBoP99DHdqfmF6kDfkPZGg5OXD1T/hNTJ7ePnU5bY1th1BbyZUqQjaKEJ3HtSGidIQQ/R91aRIZvktXunWyvvdlLNeEF819cr7pgwAvSbfacLjiGX7I+HCKAbyCFxUUBzpzHx0=; Message-ID: <570127.61455.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Vi3RASQVM1lzCYmBGqtH1UTI.8zxqSDXz3xacsgMpPsYRcZ3jxjO4oNB_12TtQB3puSXhU3nNxO2oxPtGJkY.1zagVMa4VO9Qs_YiBGm0x0HOfcr1NQNkG80MLsghjn9KcdLgmM_HXj.P8xe3hfaq4wx3s20ocE_lJ8tWqjAIxThA4cPLhu9S6GbVlFQ1Xvzn_toTAz_IDaSp25PD0og5J8jCiOB40iqTJX9qRo- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 02:52:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Repeater latest software question To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 09:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, I seem to recall that some of you upgraded your repeaters SW. For those of you who actually did installed it and tested it can you send me a link to this discussion? was it worth upgrading? also would you be so kind to tell me how i can upgrade or where i can get it? thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 10:42:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D8CD3BE8A; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 578781.81275.bm@omp205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1237027368; bh=x51NiKndqQsyEpgRq+nc+KOGT4SMToMlHN/vChVOL6Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FTIPY7kZ20RDHidyQWoxnvOMjVWPzwKueBxWgztNiy3pg0UIQ5364d/nIpMIzHfIDwalrAfOqtxt+hjX+WR7iykIMqrQdzv4LieLNmY8nBUH0KdhXPXMTnTN07DFxatZqUC+sjubxwXtY5Y4GuL9bBne9C0fDRc4wKvEXap4tEw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=YNObk3zxY3O6kt7U1OiCsJYPknTgDiuirQ0WeoDhQa2tzm4jaLHdVCQlQ4K414koTyi2Rfn1s3xY8w9Qn8JaEdQXL/lWjzRF7OEY7XEwRo55E6IvPlv88CXH5QmtCrDAjufbRbOiNN4mJqltYU9JOic98+oGMhnVGKBxAt8AUdI=; Message-ID: <294875.60690.qm@web24610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rWtxacIVM1nWuO8JdAbg3DBfLxSaZB8ylGiywfFw9qWbJEFy4bPSnNcEIN1RZazYwQph_qcLjtv4fUJPY5B4R_412uOsPKzcPC17EksJacxU9Md4YVpP1utY1Rsb2_G0pSHB_XbaRZT.TzDALaxNk90VSrJnODIu9cMqyLvY_D2WcVag.fIvq1DnQXCPtw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:42:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Hendrix: I agree, most Hendrix sounds pretty dated, but I reckon the best *= sounding* Hendrix record is 'War Heroes' (released posthumously), which see= ms to have the bass mixed a little louder generally, and there's generally = less clutter. I particularly like 'Midnight', just one wonderful guitar, b= ass and drums. =20 MP3s: In general, I can tolerate the sound of MP3s EXCEPT for that awful sp= lashiness you get on cymbals and hi-hats, which often seems to persist with= high sample rate MP3s. --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Miko Biffle wrote: I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have that narrower range and l= ess bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings= sound dated as well. I understand the basics of high end interpolation and= sampling, but still, I just don't hear it. =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 10:58:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 511AF3BE8B; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 162939499/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.255.207/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.255.207 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQBAB8qu0lPTv/P/2dsb2JhbAAIj2XBEoN/Bocn X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,362,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="162939499" Message-ID: <49BB8FF0.6060106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:07:28 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <406y5D.A.6hB.g34uJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:58:40 +0000 (UTC) Matt Davignon wrote: > But frankly, most of us > can't afford nice audiophile sound systems. Andy's tip for "Audiophile living on a beer budget." Don't drink beer. :-) (truth is, I'm not overly well financed myself) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 11:03:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD41D3BE93; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:03:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=P99Tg0jnaJMIIfN3kUsTXqOwVxGFOU/2dufy+mRAUM0=; b=EKKmvhRqYVpoW1qOyOP2QPpTAN8PfxpXlP0mWlIfWIflEYir/AUDIe2mQB188g8xOh WwPHfvPurBXNxuQuNaX0NgMg0aCEYRMvmpnkljGCTlHa5SfAtz4iClBENkiEfmDpDJHb CF191lII7n5Gwd/oI4V4ok74UA+AN6eOEAjMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SUGC8wiGKKneb/iwwhExIE3MYWOQ2KPwFfYczdM0GDA4jr5mZj7iBAfPonB2L++VV7 m6Xw0nGu/s/dxotT/v9deBfu4o8eRfBq2vtV9BRpNQqfTxB0z1pPgNJWHP46U0OzTBnx GDCinzE/+9iyxlenkTlRire+9cHrL1mX/XM9o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BB8FF0.6060106@tiscali.co.uk> References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> <49BB8FF0.6060106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:03:27 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903140403v11c9a0b8i5bad157cc41737a4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:03:27 +0000 (UTC) > Matt Davignon wrote: >> >> =A0But frankly, most of us can't afford nice audiophile sound systems. > > Andy's tip for "Audiophile living on a beer budget." > > Don't drink beer. True. But beer can be a cheap savior if you suffer from a sound system with too harsh high end. It simply wraps a cosy blanket around your hearing ;-) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 11:07:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FBEF3BE8E; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1VkHKruWd1ZwhM2Ag5+YsPVeoeucYj9YLIEmZIs7BOs=; b=cqx1g3XIWYPYvux0bGONjAcZs+FumI1e8LvVB/5Awe7E8eu0dFOcLmSKc7nuBRR1Kt XC6KwHNuJy9ReUpUw3VcLYLsF9jisjg9L2MvIwORx0wGCqZ+0JOG0/ZX5XcKMyc/39wr 4xt4BC0UH8NIChkzL9uLfUC8w5npk0Qezfsig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KlvU+0LWVRZIAZFCOCZzrwu3CbBkcosfTsFq7cGxCWaxiN72MexDZIjdKViQ7VETqZ +h/xYs1co7BJlz8Qa5rr18jrGnyyLp1GrTwy/78FAxpr5Z4nKvbosTKEaS7p2jWOtz3C jqizFSNm7LsA2pmg2GWqetnq9YO/t7v1y672Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <294875.60690.qm@web24610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> <294875.60690.qm@web24610.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:07:24 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903140407y49036f7cnb978c506d06548a4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 11:07:25 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Stephen Scott wrote: > most Hendrix sounds pretty dated I never got around to catch Hendrix live when he was actually around moving air, but from live recordings I've gathered the band sounded very mp3-ish!!! Sizzly and gritty. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 12:18:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4243BE84; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=waJLf2/HFiEx60Y1QjCM9Z0KhPPUQRKGVmqwCWCHb68=; b=GE7vSxphb5CY5ByzpFCMWU6v1J7+NksxWdkWVf1g3RVifGUqwiDBrWyXy91iCIWDwd 0psJWUeIR9zhoEFFH4OOB0AeUaPPl/IfvjKBYuQCXwJNfF+dK6zArGwXZHOzAkytLPV/ smEHsam0c18P+BRU2VnY/yxBJq3p6kxOLZdUQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NHJIpcetDYQKOR2usPagRQW/vh+xo/Icb9jJ6V5NVj8AyiuYX+wzi0X3dhnpJlZ19R KQKQ+FjpE95GOgeP6A8i0JpXRdsJD1sEnfowE8zN0et6jaYn2duFIotNa5iQ3kahBwK/ KbKnqCkx+kjCBOxCjYCLT8mTR8J8ezSU/oi3s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:18:27 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903140518k72fa350ex91f352a526b912c1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Least Costly Live Looping Solution From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Rick, I have to say I'm somewhat surprised how you seem to be trying to take computers out of the race completely in this discussion by using false assumptions which clearly contradict the facts pointed out here by e.g. Jeff Larson and Tony K. The most obvious example being: "The good news is that we are beginning to see laptops on sale for as little as $400 (USD) With your aforementioned footpedals and breakout box this brings the tab up to about $700 (USD)RE" A computer that can run an application like Mobius in stand-alone mode can be had for free. I personally threw away a (working) computer one year ago which was at that time approximately ten years old and hadn't been a top performer at the date of purchase. According to experiences reported on the Mobius discussion group, this hardware could run Mobius, albeit with limitations, which mostly affect unavailablity of pitch shifting and number of simultaneous tracks. Apart from that, it's a looper that is far more powerful than anything out there with the exception of the really big players. CRT monitors have been thrown away in the hundreds due to the widespread arrival of flatscreen display technology. So these can be had for free as well. A computer from that time usually includes an audio interface which (with the exception of latency issues) is more than sufficient for the task at hand. Jeff pointed out how you could use e.g. a cheap USB numeric keypad and jury-rig it to use it as a foot controller for Mobius, while Tony K and others correctly pointed out that you don't need foot control at all and can use the keyboard for controlling Mobius. As a matter of fact, I've seen a great many outstanding and experienced loopers who did at time control a (stompbox) looper with their hands, among them (without wanting to wilfully omit someone) Michael Klobuchar, Matt Dagignon and Genie. Summarizing, you can get a looper for free. That's right, for free! It will of course require either some intellectual capacity or a friend who has this for * setting up windows so it becomes resource-friendly * setting up Mobius And it may require more than one trip to the junk yard. If you're willing to spend even more than zero dollars, look for a used laptop on ebay for below 100 bucks, which gives you all of this with less hassle. This post should by no means invalidate all the reasons why someone would still want to use a hardware (stompbox) user, like reliability, ease of setup and operation, portability and all the other important reasons which there are and which lead to some people still using stompbox loopers even if their apartment is full of computers, MIDI foot controllers and studio quality audio interfaces. However, with the goal of "least costly", the computer does win - if only because you can get a sufficient second-hand one free. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 12:41:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D1C63BE8E; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=l0RP7BbPjhD483Ggvu0RSLqK8MlNt9LorZ7gfCKVFjo=; b=vYGTRNrglVZfdgRLw43l3AC6pG6yR62wV6QSXPgqateyWB8+GKzaDHhx+Q5d1B1kBd DWZRi485wbn8Rf3n5FDnaC8f0oZExHgG3xnB/x1LB9LWvyZvz2wYcHySonPnF8mJoA6F Y7Em7Of2e3BYChwY3WBeBmKLnloWuomUQJS5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=d1aNxzz9SGml3zlZ4us4P3AU5vGWR96xU0rQlillHanb1O0mnYg8Ys+yKvbvPwoL18 /+5v7dThDLUwfSR8ZSaGWgNtTkXndA7gcGgwGS8Hqkfv5POVGVfumrVhWlB96duMXTyH 3VJVe6bBw3WUs4MgG/8cYeAn+H/B8Tk4k3444= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <570127.61455.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <570127.61455.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:40:57 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: af2cf066c55fa820 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903140540y2b6c5887gcf0e81fe3fc270fa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Repeater latest software question From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ba676edc8b04651387e7 Resent-Message-ID: <-JP8GC.A.LZF.bX6uJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:41:00 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ba676edc8b04651387e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The upgrade is available on the Repeater Yahoo list files section... wait...nope.. its been removed.. sorry... Um.. now wheres my copy?.. Hmmm oh dear Time machine aint working... OK wait till Monday I have it on backup at work.. will send you a copy for evaluation... Its definitely worth it, just for sticky settings alone!!! but the ability to stop reverse and play tracks INDIVIDUALLY and not all 4 at once, is also great... I Miss ONE THING from this upgrade, a stupid ommission IMHO, thats a command to "put them all back how they was before"... On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi gang, > I seem to recall that some of you upgraded your repeaters SW. > For those of you who actually did installed it and tested it can you send > me a link to this discussion? was it worth upgrading? also would you be so > kind to tell me how i can upgrade or where i can get it? > thanx > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5ba676edc8b04651387e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The upgrade is available on the Repeater Yahoo list files section...
wait...nope.. its been removed.. sorry... Um.. now wheres my copy?.. Hmmm = oh dear Time machine aint working... OK wait till Monday I have it on backu= p at work.. will send you a copy for evaluation...

Its definitely worth it, just for sticky settings alone!!! but the abil= ity to stop reverse and play tracks INDIVIDUALLY and not all 4 at once, is = also great... I Miss ONE THING from this upgrade, a stupid ommission IMHO, = thats a command to "put them all back how they was before"...
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 10:52 AM, L.Angulo <= span dir=3D"ltr"><labaloops@yahoo= .com> wrote:

Hi gang,
I seem to recall that some of you upgraded your repeaters SW.
For those of you who actually did installed it and tested it can you send m= e a link to this discussion? was it worth upgrading? also would you be so k= ind to tell me how i can upgrade or where i can get it?
thanx
Luis

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--001636c5ba676edc8b04651387e7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 12:54:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2B7C3BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=rYfzE2HivTTpExbNsaFGtgpFYmsKzvkkr/hTArvE3nY=; b=YXeyq3yKMDqZjPK1p+kCw/6W6yvEsqVtjT7H2m7NUYA+M6HOvx8LfFpbCixcnPDrpn V5wceSZ4QEm5m3Rug/4h0n2Gy46PcIMqhW1zuyuuxO3y0Ldk+HZ//DSMrzEY7pX15aDr nDSj2jbHlqfa35m2I9ujM8WJc+qznF3LgV83E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=TPUbwsHJjjQKtN/5mo2flIQd411CDnuA3RilGGnMAenlgOV7MRZFLiTvmpQmBGroNZ EKhD0dzrxgMYmz1VEyLGvOkcbvqYHZfAPGv6kCI1AJ9HnhNU+sdXxffYmt72/tAVaROo zRkfDjGzAsrUb2jQ6pNs1059Au3yHaXowIYJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903140518k72fa350ex91f352a526b912c1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903140518k72fa350ex91f352a526b912c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:54:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 23be53dc29fff756 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903140554j4e6da94bla0a1b34ebaf74f9a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a267a1aeed046513b824 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 12:54:44 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a267a1aeed046513b824 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just wait a moment here, no having a go at me old mucker Rick... Ill take you all on.. out side now!!! This thread has thrown up some really cool stuff... LOVE Jeffs suggestion of old keyboard to stamp on... but arent you all missing Ricks point??? Rick is a looping evangelist, NOT a geek... He has always been after ways of spreading the looping message... I think his original, "whats a cheap and easy way to loop?" post is just that... if a kid comes along with a guitar a fuzz box and a wah wah pedal, which looper would we all suggest... What will give him that instant.. "OK.. looping... I get it... Im hooked, now I sell my motorbike for a Looperlative" feeling... We all know how looping is a drug, ... I think Rick meant to find the "One hit and your hooked" machine... That was "Plug n Play" and would have them wanting more... My recomendations would be... buy/borrow a RC... get hooked.. then downzone Mobius... seems to be the way to go.. not for me, but thats what I would advise. m On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Rick, > > I have to say I'm somewhat surprised how you seem to be trying to take > computers out of the race completely in this discussion by using false > assumptions which clearly contradict the facts pointed out here by > e.g. Jeff Larson and Tony K. > blah blah blah... > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5a267a1aeed046513b824 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wait a moment here, no having a go at me old mucker Rick... Ill take y= ou all on.. out side now!!!

This thread has thrown up some really co= ol stuff... LOVE Jeffs suggestion of old keyboard to stamp on... but arent = you all missing Ricks point???

Rick is a looping evangelist, NOT a geek... He has always been after wa= ys of spreading the looping message... I think his original, "whats a = cheap and easy way to loop?" post is just that... if a kid comes along= with a guitar a fuzz box and a wah wah pedal, which looper would we all su= ggest... What will give him that instant.. "OK.. looping... I get it..= . Im hooked, now I sell my motorbike for a Looperlative" feeling...
We all know how looping is a drug, ... I think Rick meant to find the &= quot;One hit and your hooked" machine... That was "Plug n Play&qu= ot; and would have them wanting more...

My recomendations would be..= . buy/borrow a RC... get hooked.. then downzone Mobius... seems to be the w= ay to go.. not for me, but thats what I would advise.

m



On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:1= 8 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Rick,

I have to say I'm somewhat surprised how you seem to be trying to take<= br> computers out of the race completely in this discussion by using false
assumptions which clearly contradict the facts pointed out here by
e.g. Jeff Larson and Tony K.
blah blah blah...



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--001636c5a267a1aeed046513b824-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 13:15:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B85663BE8C; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237036499; bh=i7Q1/y69tjNuCJi3kfT2kD/hYkE7VSNuwq/PUWh2dSE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=axbqE3Znhqznf9PwZrdS7WnBUs1JZpqREA+nQF5ykAmMo11ez9mnFwPwksFdMoTIn47+nWJTgeSE3N7Opp7gIc0oTBWzYfB32nw+++KTaTQUl6j1ZtMb2HHw+xmglWKZCrI0kcyomywy2SUQC113ftyNWmVDKjSl/65motS/z7Q= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bichZp0s95sBwO0XGq/Wjj3AwL4/m/2aUaVL+vnFWJQG3h7tVAPx2JNENiw1jegh4HMt//KBk4RrBBJ8jsZiJI3zNu3hkfDdQjQ5dPOYS4qujd+WJAXJW3x9ApW9F28lbyknCBeRu90L8pgWzV8nAl82X2X4mwA8NeJYJ/7W5v4=; Message-ID: <697753.82331.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lhdw1V4VM1m4iNlp5Pd2v6cYAod8R6DF_jA9gq00YqOkZ0.JfTvqHAJcG5iTbK9zW8d7PifVX1sX4QY35w3UyYJiA3jfTwsNIXX6vVraolA_WN75MKjg0Xxu5d3IWd8a6PysPCikbxOWSL2LWxikHqAnihiPl6QLgANl0JbO.4vCgrA6LZWG2ZTb X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:14:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Repeater latest software question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:15:00 +0000 (UTC) thanx man! does it slave good now when using sync? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Simeon Harris wrote: > From: Simeon Harris > Subject: Re: Repeater latest software question > To: labaloops@yahoo.com > Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 4:19 AM > definitely worth it luis! > you can download it from me here - > http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c - > password "repeater" > > sim > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM, L.Angulo > wrote: > > > > > Hi gang, > > I seem to recall that some of you upgraded your > repeaters SW. > > For those of you who actually did installed it and > tested it can you send > > me a link to this discussion? was it worth upgrading? > also would you be so > > kind to tell me how i can upgrade or where i can get > it? > > thanx > > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 13:20:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D47C3BE8C; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:20:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237036799; bh=evshMNZG+eVZYv19L/zh254p13jjPoCOEeaCbbg6Fyg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iym7ZaU+Z5IHIP+S9Vfk7GJYvb0ub2zTMkD0hRq7yKX6FR1p1EFtnkgWEDParJwkosiHgOC8+xXnqKQK8PApXAlIsrQBb8l2wlK5v0pGNYTiya/klyUGavjrYliw4j2T8S2Gutbaabip7blQI9l+1dR5buX5EmIICO/KSknu4Yo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2MeQNwkm8W3b//mvCNJhRZSPMJI3sHh1mieBeySaIyqtpss01VGVJRh15Ec3LvILO3q/tFsP4mXza2TApXAPyr3/QbYwhTsjDe20x6KU7A9Wl1itljKs9wURgs9z29KvGniIyTl1F/lyUvMqitQimYnq8uwrttdA1RBM92XLih4=; Message-ID: <946968.50367.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CYbW420VM1mEkI.lM0FIJ6Eb0KLooS_rwJms99E7tq13lxU8su4AJg_S4iZLiX.pRdkzAP9G0xts4XiLCHgrrmhFJa0rc_v3U_5fDDb.hNnLGE9JtBbGdZH9Dja3kwUAgSDKI13Awcl9A9etuy.Qg152qppRNiAr9bxpC4jui9bkDDGqUschbGP.057zlOfetjiE4bfJI9VbXqKtfXnn5jbR531F9GVxKky7pEY- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:19:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903140518k72fa350ex91f352a526b912c1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:20:03 +0000 (UTC) so with all this said would you guys buy a repeater if it was offered for you for 400.-eur.? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sat, 3/14/09, Rainer Straschill wrote: > From: Rainer Straschill > Subject: Least Costly Live Looping Solution > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Saturday, March 14, 2009, 5:18 AM > Rick, > > I have to say I'm somewhat surprised how you seem to be > trying to take > computers out of the race completely in this discussion by > using false > assumptions which clearly contradict the facts pointed out > here by > e.g. Jeff Larson and Tony K. > > The most obvious example being: > "The good news is that we are beginning to see laptops > on sale for as > little as $400 (USD) With your aforementioned footpedals > and breakout > box this brings the tab up to about > $700 (USD)RE" > > A computer that can run an application like Mobius in > stand-alone mode > can be had for free. I personally threw away a (working) > computer one > year ago which was at that time approximately ten years old > and hadn't > been a top performer at the date of purchase. According to > experiences > reported on the Mobius discussion group, this hardware > could run > Mobius, albeit with limitations, which mostly affect > unavailablity of > pitch shifting and number of simultaneous tracks. Apart > from that, > it's a looper that is far more powerful than anything > out there with > the exception of the really big players. > CRT monitors have been thrown away in the hundreds due to > the > widespread arrival of flatscreen display technology. So > these can be > had for free as well. > A computer from that time usually includes an audio > interface which > (with the exception of latency issues) is more than > sufficient for the > task at hand. > Jeff pointed out how you could use e.g. a cheap USB numeric > keypad and > jury-rig it to use it as a foot controller for Mobius, > while Tony K > and others correctly pointed out that you don't need > foot control at > all and can use the keyboard for controlling Mobius. As a > matter of > fact, I've seen a great many outstanding and > experienced loopers who > did at time control a (stompbox) looper with their hands, > among them > (without wanting to wilfully omit someone) Michael > Klobuchar, Matt > Dagignon and Genie. > > Summarizing, you can get a looper for free. That's > right, for free! It > will of course require either some intellectual capacity or > a friend > who has this for > * setting up windows so it becomes resource-friendly > * setting up Mobius > > And it may require more than one trip to the junk yard. > > If you're willing to spend even more than zero dollars, > look for a > used laptop on ebay for below 100 bucks, which gives you > all of this > with less hassle. > > This post should by no means invalidate all the reasons why > someone > would still want to use a hardware (stompbox) user, like > reliability, > ease of setup and operation, portability and all the other > important > reasons which there are and which lead to some people still > using > stompbox loopers even if their apartment is full of > computers, MIDI > foot controllers and studio quality audio interfaces. > However, with the goal of "least costly", the > computer does win - if > only because you can get a sufficient second-hand one free. > > Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 13:22:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA6C43BE8E; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:22:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237036930; bh=EF6m5U/9R7B24m+HcYeUBLkjsvO9VL4WmsWxkMgZkrg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sa+Y6ukrFWqvbHkpQMwAPOS6Qr0wgrdMGFc/c8JfgQX59shc/fGBuVqLoT3WsHrFnOQYq4Luf7RMAwztPsQQCQ/E5IBiPn3BU+RNAs1ick3zrH3WZ2DGhZnyy4QHSl/5N32Mpjh1UDNZketTwm0EzBru5gHSBN3GaPSZ9CWF5ME= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=akEzC9yFUwJ/oLPEMobzBjf22q6GWsMse3VVjexc5hXWQKsKKIzkIqj38qhIMgJoam2MhqltN9KerjNgzjqRIVJSRWjH+Tf5UlzZB9PTWPdPNA3Q5SrBcLHUogzZsw9Xe4SpMw8qUnka3M1WTxb4c2ZzueYvCWCjFnp+ygwRqrI=; Message-ID: <969708.91391.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: p7_CYJ4VM1kKGNr8KtSjnYCZNq376Tb6He35nPIJUc8BrOe.iynjPEk16zK1ickvz_BXQpDq0t1s.4fb2dRk37ojC_Kk_g.XZaH_1sqOjYa5rFtlXhmVlslS9hGYRsQfu47rejzgt8D1XWUTDhuiW7XvJg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:22:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903140403v11c9a0b8i5bad157cc41737a4@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:22:11 +0000 (UTC) LOL!!! now lets go have a pint of guiness blankets > > > True. But beer can be a cheap savior if you suffer from a > sound system > with too harsh high end. It simply wraps a cosy blanket > around your > hearing ;-) > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 13:24:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0602B3BE8F; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:24:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237037057; bh=IeoZCbjZHzsAsJqB3KHlS9zracPdhhkghXeGwNFB6JQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0yMrgeYtoK7lMJpeSVrI7n48UjyBWmEjYeav7cQB51tqeJs1oIUMONRriINXdgnNf7byQLm8mDl3APmdE6bBn/Zos1fGg6p5CdIdwUgR+ss/njzba2QE0ldFCv+OBKn6ekB03agobC5mUDp/tJ+PFtOys3M2bU7bVP5oBSIslbY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=arh5SslgwFg4dWWoHtqhUfQbymrHdSv/EDi6t89geFMiWsgFEmKPeXT3kVDdhJolWkgVTe7Ia1v2MmIo3e1V1IctCJuVY4CmhSj6AILZDyu+FscMERnyw0Wsqi3c0nkCBJNy0vlLvNWz0Zrqk/Vumeknd5v3LqFZ4+PNaUADShc=; Message-ID: <163248.90988.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cvIl1_EVM1mHxULgB6RPqes3VvJHioALot65Vy6qS6J.zpDuFU6ECeIAveL1N3ddEcz8.4_U72YMI2SwM_.L6Xn1Q1yMiYFJuRaRso0Rn.pIrr83tDcFDfF67EWh3rYIjvSV7V0_UuIjtHuV_lf716YOtrSTxQbS8ZdZpeSDaTRJNqfZANrdQbtOKK3t1whk0UwLvBVMxddjAvnSmzEA6jfOdYDhyhmMktg- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49BA772D.60003@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7PRAO.A.MAH.BA7uJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:24:17 +0000 (UTC) so does the Boss RC2 which is being talked about here,no? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 3/13/09, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution > To: "LD" > Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 8:09 AM > hmm, > both these only have one button. >=20 >=20 > L.Angulo wrote: > > what about this dudes: > > > http://www.digitech.com/products/Hardwire/HW_DelayLooper.php > 159.00dlls. >=20 >=20 >=20 > They say:- >=20 > While still holding down the Foot Switch, begin playing > your instrument. > The Indicator LED lights solid RED indicating the pedal is > recording. > When you reach the end of your passage, release the Foot > Switch. The > Indicator LED lights solid GREEN and the passage you > recorded plays > back in an infinite loop. >=20 > andy says:- > that's about the worst possible user interface I could > imagine. > Suitable for creating "jam-along" backings, but > not much else. >=20 > At least it has an 8s delay. >=20 > > http://www.zzounds.com/item--BOSDD7 >=20 > =A3120 in uk + extra for the psu( Boss psu aren't cheap) >=20 > a 6.7s delay, and.. >=20 > they say:- > Up to 40 seconds of recording for sound on > sound (Hold mode) > And getting the manual from the uk site (not on the .com):- > Begin recording > Recording starts when you press the builtin > pedal switch > (the CHECK indicator flashes > red). > * The maximum recording time is 20 seconds for > stereo input or 40 seconds for monaural input. > * Recording continues even if you release the > built-in pedal switch. > 3. > When recording is finished, playback starts > Press the built-in pedal switch a second > time to stop recording. Playback of what > you recorded begins simultaneously. >=20 > Which means it's actually going to be easy to get > an accurate loop tapped in. > Plus there's overdub. >=20 > But, neither of these has a way to stop/start the loop! >=20 > So..are they considered contenders? > the digitech unit seems not to be. >=20 >=20 > What's the bare minimum feature set? >=20 > andy >=20 > >=20 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >=20 > >=20 > > --- On Fri, 3/13/09, andy butler > wrote: > >=20 > >> From: andy butler > >> Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Friday, March 13, 2009, 5:41 AM > >> Rick Walker wrote: > >>=20 > >>> CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS FOR THE > BEGINNING LIVE > >> LOOPER* > >>> Personally, my vote goes to the Line 6 DL 4.=20 > At > >> $250, it is the 2nd cheapest live looping stomp > box pedal > >> behind the Boss RC2 ($200) but=20 > >> In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been > =A3250. > >> I'd agree it's pretty good tho', and > would add > >> some more plusses > >> to the ones you mentioned. It possesses that rare > and > >> underrated feature the "well thought out user > >> interface". > >> The echo that is available while looping is a nice > bonus, > >> and > >> can just manage some mini-loops ...and who > doesn't > >> admire the "Bill Walker Signature" > filtered echo > >> sound. > >>=20 > >> The RC2 is =A3150 here. > >>=20 > >> The Akai Headrush can be had for just under =A3100. > >> It at least allows to create a loop and overdub > onto it, > >> and a limited Undo capability. > >> The delay settings are frustrating...grit your > teeth when > >> tapping a new > >> delay time always leaves you with silence in the > delay, but > >> the analog tape sound > >> is at least "interesting". > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> The Electro Harmonix Stereo Memory Man at =A3130 > has > >> it's moments too. > >> Worst feature is that you record a loop by holding > down > >> "tap" for the duration of the loop, not > a good way > >> to get rhythmic accuracy. > >> No, wait a minute, worst feature is that you have > put the > >> unit into > >> bypass before you can clear the loop. > >> Well, the EHSMM is a lot of fun as a delay (superb > imo), > >> and as a looper it's ok > >> to use in band for the odd loop trick or two. > >> Wouldn't want to play a looping show with it > as the > >> only looper tho'. > >> As a starter looper it's only an option if > you're > >> already in the market > >> for a delay (tho' not a long enough delay for > that sort > >> of looping > >> really, at 3s max). At least it allows you to put > down a > >> loop (42s)and overdub and > >> perhaps find out if the you want to go for a fully > featured > >> looper. > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> Of course, available very cheap =A350=3Dpp, or less I > expect, > >> and probably the most famous > >> starter looper of all, with basic looper and dual > long > >> delay it's.... (guess first) > >>=20 > >> http://tinyurl.com/ch4uwj andy butler > >=20 > >=20 > > =20 > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 14:31:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A6263BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=D6rBnShk5MbFlWYVHCYq77tUOxmXgdQJFuIv4/KjpeI=; b=NDLAbps2oZMWO8EJnrEtYH1rYbFG12NsLwNs4D6JpWbPaZ6bscMOxm14hqkRUkJam3 LbQNdAnJqcfGCdnLqkIPfowdB2r58NjaIV3umhVVfaddhSWWc9sO0SxyqQZDFxC3cUWo RhnNO/i4k92Byj+Zkh3iqi5z8Mi6eTGirHi1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CnZjkVOgYgp8yl4S3F0G54T6zhsvmMD/M2+bPrltzGgQ6iRKiNy6YxabZ3K3H+tfUL MzZdE9pKaImvDW+9f/G7izI88mixT7FB5//1ZkB9ZiLmPZgiLMdq8ooKTqNTRXF1+/IV CUNpxamjXvA9FZr0ZmfEcyah352yMfzjoqYaQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903140730m61da8343lf7a0b5d6a45e39e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903140518k72fa350ex91f352a526b912c1@mail.gmail.com> <946968.50367.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903140730m61da8343lf7a0b5d6a45e39e5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:31:34 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903140731h5097deacy48dd24192035ff15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:31:35 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > so with all this said would you guys buy a repeater if it was offered for you for 400.-eur.? Not me. I've already had one for a while and I don't miss it since we broke up. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 14:50:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BA9B3BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:49:58 -0700 Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Richard Atkinson To: Looper's Delight Message-ID: Thread-Topic: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Thread-Index: AcmktCUVY7ohdBCnEd6/uAAWy4YwYQ== In-Reply-To: <969708.91391.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Beer Ear Blankets make a wonderful new accessory to the traditional 'Beer Goggles'. No need to hear reality when your eyes are already doing their own dance! Get your ocular and auditory systems in total sync! Beer Ear Blankets! Get your set today! Only by HUH?!?. The source you can trust for impaired hearing. On 3/14/09 6:22 AM, "L.Angulo" wrote: > > LOL!!! > now lets go have a pint of guiness blankets > >> >> >> True. But beer can be a cheap savior if you suffer from a >> sound system >> with too harsh high end. It simply wraps a cosy blanket >> around your >> hearing ;-) >> >> Per > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 15:19:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EADA13BE92; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=AcRq+bZOJxx6U7GIfHo/t2QqsCBiK6QTiN4VhBe/Dg4=; b=sSnCdGZSFNI/HS4kcT/5bhbafYOgoi5c6jLrOmUshLpfkSJRekCIzsIL5DEohb3ZyC joPPfed29ywnLPsZISr4jaIyQHKCKTeqVbx7cRu5CpsUfJ5rNksC4OMC81y012mtkQ5m xUnUVoK6uafVOW8Px550EFp9wQGKP742QiUms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=Po+ZWthfN6tn/s2un5IgRifkwHzaBuICe/Usawf+78i6hhhwbyeB+aqTtcfcWksUXO aBdh3BaxgUuSrVPktFowBXGmQwHO2tx3VPSE5ekp2QW2oLWXKtnKBX+jP83C1kV2O4i6 2G4K51uDXdFfMT29Jhvl/Q+4X0hjcrGwqfzV4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:19:03 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903140819p6a7b3a6doff2b8130ec02c262@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Least Costly Live Looping Solution From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:19:04 +0000 (UTC) Mark said: >... but arent you all missing Ricks point??? >I think Rick meant to find the "One hit and your hooked" machine... That w= as "Plug n Play" and would have them wanting more... That may well be the case, Mark, but if that was his point, he didn't say so (see the subject of this discussion). My last post in this thread specifically targeted his statement that (paraphrasing here) you need to spend $700 to be able to run a decent software looper. You are right (as I also pointed out) that the zero dollar computer solution requires a lot of time and effort which a) may be more than $700 worth, e.g. if you're making $400 a day, b) may be beyond the intellectual capabilities of some and c) may be more than they are willing to invest before they already are hooked. So yes, you're right, the relatively cheap stompbox is the thing to get somebody hooked (not the zero dollar computer with Mobius), and again, I'd recommand the SMM w/Hazari over the Boss RC-2, even if it is =8035 more (quoting German street prices), for the following reasons: a) varispeed (from half to double), b) reverse loop, c) feedback control. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 17:43:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEFAE3BE8E; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=fruHRkuV85ZYSy/6h8xqBEBwSwqqZ1qAob7n59dB5Ns=; b=K82WYoy1FBfOXHw2S/5pKd+YU4y9OKNV/KZ3nTg4xo/Rj+YFFD/AphJthBjrASdlQe Zd/1w78CKiYjtHWHK/y3cRq6EaTXEaMphPlQ/nvUN2ovWiCWPy0Rkd7+N0lPisoDaVF7 crHkR3VD5tOrU/v0Jsvo07r5oQ/mF7xBRa8ZM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=k0/L5R5ZRLRzWD5//DYQzLQ2XtOCc8MtKWxw9rwQTsgEZxgojm3uj5F3NiTXc2MYrD qOHz2nKqZTfQG/6AXV8aBjg72uT4cm8jTD5NUJC/cyNBl2uXw+vfSl6Y91HL/xAitYoy foi4yKZC0fBzds/nG16FGMWjhFmbE7agdRYAw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30903120955q319eb63ckc3c24771e2b01ade@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903091502i78af2920k79c20d6c48c7e62b@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903120210u6400e51v5dff61cb7d734752@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30903120955q319eb63ckc3c24771e2b01ade@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:43:49 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: f7285343b646885c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903141043v77356b15q475b0b1ccfa9218f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP BOTHER SYNCH!!! (sic) From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bbd186a798046517c244 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:43:50 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bbd186a798046517c244 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit heh heh thanks for reminding me Miko... so unfortunately my workaround to my new EDP having some funny behavior is not working now.. so it more of a notworkaround. Whether the 2 machines sync perfectly via brother sync seems somewhat intermittent now. I have really tried top be systematic in checking things in various orders. (boot order, plus cable in, cable out before boot ) and sometimes things work, others not. But it dopes seem that the new EDP is the unstable one, its the one that crashes when the other is switched on, or cable inserted, it crashes when the BS lead is earthed... the old one doesnt... the old one seems to have a lot of headroom both the input and output of the new one sem very sensitive to having precise levels set for no distortion... so it seems like there might be a problem here... My supplier seems to be very nice guy so I expect to get sorted, but its a shame... however for few hours this afternoon, it was all hunkydory.. and I saw my future... and it was fine... oh so fine. Just for a laugh I made a system with my patchbay (Yes Rick I went with your suggestion... pure genius) where all my loopers were "interacting" with earch other... I played into Vortes ans usual... made loop, grabbe bits of loop into 2 edps, synched to Vortex.. THEN fed output of edps into repeater set as a long pitching delayline... with feedback... god its a long way from that copycat echo i had in 1981. m On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > Mark wrote . . . I was handling 2 machines like I usually have done with > one, eyes closed and grinning!!! I stood up... at home... hear me??? > STOOD... UP!!! > > Whoa! Complete lunacy!!! Take your meds Mark . . . -m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5bbd186a798046517c244 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable heh heh thanks for reminding me Miko...

so unfortunately my workaro= und to my new EDP having some funny behavior is not working now.. so it mor= e of a notworkaround. Whether the 2 machines sync perfectly via brother syn= c seems somewhat intermittent now. I have really tried top be systematic in= checking things in various orders. (boot order, plus cable in, cable out b= efore boot ) and sometimes things work, others not. But it dopes seem that = the new EDP is the unstable one, its the one that crashes when the other is= switched on, or cable inserted, it crashes when the BS lead is earthed... = the old one doesnt... the old one seems to have a lot of headroom both the = input and output of the new one sem very sensitive to having precise levels= set for no distortion... so it seems like there might be a problem here...= My supplier seems to be very nice guy so I expect to get sorted, but its a= shame...

however for few hours this afternoon, it was all hunkydory.. and I saw = my future... and it was fine... oh so fine.

Just for a laugh I made = a system with my patchbay (Yes Rick I went with your suggestion... pure gen= ius) where all my loopers were "interacting" with earch other... =

I played into Vortes ans usual... made loop, grabbe bits of loop into 2= edps, synched to Vortex.. THEN fed output of edps into repeater set as a l= ong pitching delayline... with feedback...

god its a long way from = that copycat echo i had in 1981.

m




On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at= 5:55 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:
Mark wrote . . .=A0 I was handling 2 machines like I usually have done with= one, eyes closed and grinning!!! I stood up... at home... hear me??? STOOD... UP!!!

Whoa!=A0 Complete lunacy!!! Take your meds Mark . . . -m



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--001636c5bbd186a798046517c244-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 18:40:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC1643BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZKwVdzs5n2POtgnmen4EsrpQQ/+bmm52cwNSAdA73lw=; b=I1FhGstqUJBAuzpm+d8RYvGwFtcP6X9HCrIgg2K3cU3Zpjd0qbLh5V823hO3S6q+Kb CxVyXOcJONU3ME0nHq7q05XS6VoI41A4Mru58PeL55OPVlTGH9mU9j+bJT1HWR8TTdE0 5uQc++19P2sWByPlpbyLYqNRQc5WFCi0XW96A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=L0KRElj7J7E5QrGp0HBQ19viAFtYHunnxSA+3la9AFwUe2VmUKUHdnv0+bjXQceeKs KqTdUN7G0a+m8uGXkMjt4hjJnnnDKZQzp00SVts35sDJxCDuLBENWuD4t8Rj4/BBfKZe rGCX4r/mc8Yj37dutvT9spBTTm1OCaWQF+mtM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903140731h5097deacy48dd24192035ff15@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903140518k72fa350ex91f352a526b912c1@mail.gmail.com> <946968.50367.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903140730m61da8343lf7a0b5d6a45e39e5@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903140731h5097deacy48dd24192035ff15@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:40:50 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 590b8389ffdd55e8 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903141140y7978fbffrf38ab1562aa5948b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e11e72ffff0465188e8e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:40:51 +0000 (UTC) --00504502e11e72ffff0465188e8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit at that price.. its tempting... but not as my sole looper... for pitch shiftey stuff, they are great, and good for having prerecorded loops stored, its not without its limitations however... On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > so with all this said would you guys buy a repeater if it was offered for > you for 400.-eur.? > > Not me. I've already had one for a while and I don't miss it since we broke > up. > > Per > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00504502e11e72ffff0465188e8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable at that price.. its tempting... but not as my sole looper... for pitch shif= tey stuff, they are great, and good for having prerecorded loops stored, it= s not without its limitations however...

On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:19 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
> so with all this said would you guys buy a repeater if it was offered = for you for 400.-eur.?

Not me. I've already had one for a while and I don't miss it = since we broke up.

Per




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--00504502e11e72ffff0465188e8e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 18:47:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D37EA3BE8C; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:47:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0kd5A54xVnf+5hiEBgrebaaaZnCkPyiYOIh567J9xIw=; b=wcpoQses38DzTNEGStPkq3/Pdwex3iKlCe66GCBOYR0HtSLcDV9ytlNmNvselhoWI4 pouxT4up4YF0CrqS3rgyXsJvpoexzF+i9ja2oOWePe2rRXmZO3L18vKXKA88wZwxxGzj 4uGiOnS6d5GtTdgt2ryfVgwjbYbuAhDr6xyGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=q7mIGN65CMvjunEBlZvUjrQkhTc8hL4Ic42NtngBWe04npIodBqOLf6i9Ju1pd3ELH bclQDKR/6apVqVqYYVZdxAZjvjFT3L+nfBiCcgwcymXf6pVuv17U+Eo7VHSgB36wmsN8 qaw1YLRFxH/enjZQv1sXBtnbBBlcRSM7lwVFE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903140819p6a7b3a6doff2b8130ec02c262@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903140819p6a7b3a6doff2b8130ec02c262@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:47:13 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 238fd107206c2e6c Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903141147q131048d5ycb78727e9ad1cc7d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dee96e46b03d046518a5b5 Resent-Message-ID: <1UALn.A.bXE.yu_uJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:47:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dee96e46b03d046518a5b5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SMM w/Hazari ... Id forgotton that... Hmmm.. really like the look of them actually... have you tried them/got one? can it sync to anything.. anyhow? Im looking for a looper or echo machine (cheeeeeep) that is triggered (or rather RE-triggere= d ) via a pulse. its not really for my looping setup actually, its for my modular synth setup.. (whole other life, list and friends) m On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Mark said: > >... but arent you all missing Ricks point??? > >I think Rick meant to find the "One hit and your hooked" machine... That > was "Plug n Play" and would have them wanting more... > > That may well be the case, Mark, but if that was his point, he didn't > say so (see the subject of this discussion). My last post in this > thread specifically targeted his statement that (paraphrasing here) > you need to spend $700 to be able to run a decent software looper. > > You are right (as I also pointed out) that the zero dollar computer > solution requires a lot of time and effort which a) may be more than > $700 worth, e.g. if you're making $400 a day, b) may be beyond the > intellectual capabilities of some and c) may be more than they are > willing to invest before they already are hooked. > > So yes, you're right, the relatively cheap stompbox is the thing to > get somebody hooked (not the zero dollar computer with Mobius), and > again, I'd recommand the SMM w/Hazari over the Boss RC-2, even if it > is =8035 more (quoting German street prices), for the following reasons: > a) varispeed (from half to double), b) reverse loop, c) feedback > control. > > Rainer > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6dee96e46b03d046518a5b5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable SMM w/Hazari ...

Id forgotton that... Hmmm.. really like the look of= them actually... have you tried them/got one? can it sync to anything.. an= yhow? Im looking for a looper or echo machine (cheeeeeep) that is triggered= (or rather RE-triggered ) via a pulse. its not really for my looping setup= actually, its for my modular synth setup.. (whole other life, list and fri= ends)

m




On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at= 4:19 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Mark said:
>... but arent you all missing Ricks point???
>I think Rick meant to find the "One hit and your hooked" mach= ine... That was "Plug n Play" and would have them wanting more...=

That may well be the case, Mark, but if that was his point, he didn't say so (see the subject of this discussion). My last post in this
thread specifically targeted his statement that (paraphrasing here)
you need to spend $700 to be able to run a decent software looper.

You are right (as I also pointed out) that the zero dollar computer
solution requires a lot of time and effort which a) may be more than
$700 worth, e.g. if you're making $400 a day, b) may be beyond the
intellectual capabilities of some and c) may be more than they are
willing to invest before they already are hooked.

So yes, you're right, the relatively cheap stompbox is the thing to
get somebody hooked (not the zero dollar computer with Mobius), and
again, I'd recommand the SMM w/Hazari over the Boss RC-2, even if it is =8035 more (quoting German street prices), for the following reasons: a) varispeed (from half to double), b) reverse loop, c) feedback
control.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer




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--0016e6dee96e46b03d046518a5b5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 19:04:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C58D3BE8E; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nht5BNL0EIhSgPf7zi7rx5+T9DHt1I+Atjdh4v/2o2U=; b=djzOwmXO9/obFBub87u6g6NoTLT7adNTb8JxrofBZs9zwEgwR19AEVPC9IQ5xMeTeI 6p+y7cwHuXKinObBILmn8KUOpcBurVcYStQ8yGUZR5cR8/R+eCr0lEMuCZglp7CsHGKn NuC5YgHg3t36mHCe8/huKq1J+wu526trC0luQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tCukhphRXRalZ1RXAgdoeEEpVr6fzsY0M12Z/RVBlvV02pvqgb0+wI67MBzI6k2lVX xtuHF9Bh8tD6BnL0NfJLA2ANAzmE4t2A9GR8bhkEgKGzoOJ1knUt+8o2k1DyOxUx8FkQ 4cZEEJLpLNgFfgQuLbT3FfpE0IBEBdznpjZLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:03:58 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903141203p7bb809bar747834d87ce077b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: SMM w/Hazari (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Mark, > Id forgotton that... Hmmm.. really like the look of them actually... have you tried them/got one? can it sync to anything.. anyhow? > Im looking for a looper or echo machine (cheeeeeep) that is triggered (or rather RE-triggered ) via a pulse. > its not really for my looping setup actually, its for my modular synth setup.. (whole other life, list and friends) I got one, and there has also been some discussion/comment on this list in the past (like that one: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200711/msg00728.html) Yes, it can sync to your foot pressing the footswitch. What may sound like a smart-ass' remark (which, in fact, it is), there may be applications for you: there are two footswitches. If you apply a rhythmic pulse to one (say, a quarter-note beat), then it will timestretch the loop to fit in with your tapped tempo. To retrigger, you have to hit the other switch twice. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 19:41:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37EFC3BE8A; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:41:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237059673; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Md6hhBRF1KN5WhzhfQL5UnCMRvs=; b=WTi5Wo5BJPG4hMT1TuJeIK10k//2s+4a0/SHeirNdxg8BggmGzc4++X11ASKwj8j BeHhxWqyIYqKIe6MHC+k3adoS3MKFKccGgoAbo9Gu62eBCpOYv6/yOWnI52YAXuk; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=NoROdg-Gdfld9cczmU4A:9 a=lhim1Cj437DHMXGMfKH4Whzkjj8A:4 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 a=vViZfcZP9qwA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=e9GJYut39eHiIumG:21 a=VLP0MsBDUad8rTLa:21 a=KMtw_Jhbl_efx8rCBd4A:9 a=PRyRf1chCFSDaOzfmWIA:7 a=lf3Rc0E-RwpShsUbXnvUY5VoLN4A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=kxlwQYSBe-oA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01c9a4dc$d4596ac0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0903140819p6a7b3a6doff2b8130ec02c262@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903141147q131048d5ycb78727e9ad1cc7d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:41:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A4BB.4CC4B810" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 19:41:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A4BB.4CC4B810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, you know what you might be looking for is a Digitech 7.6 sec Time = Machine or RDS Time Machine. I had the 7.6 sec original and they are CV = pulse synced and sweepable with a cv pedal fantastic warping to be had = cheap sometimes. I have seen them on ebay. Jeff http://virb.com/jeffduke ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution SMM w/Hazari ... Id forgotton that... Hmmm.. really like the look of them actually... = have you tried them/got one? can it sync to anything.. anyhow? Im = looking for a looper or echo machine (cheeeeeep) that is triggered (or = rather RE-triggered ) via a pulse. its not really for my looping setup = actually, its for my modular synth setup.. (whole other life, list and = friends) m On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Rainer Straschill = wrote: Mark said: >... but arent you all missing Ricks point??? >I think Rick meant to find the "One hit and your hooked" machine... = That was "Plug n Play" and would have them wanting more... That may well be the case, Mark, but if that was his point, he = didn't say so (see the subject of this discussion). My last post in this thread specifically targeted his statement that (paraphrasing here) you need to spend $700 to be able to run a decent software looper. You are right (as I also pointed out) that the zero dollar computer solution requires a lot of time and effort which a) may be more than $700 worth, e.g. if you're making $400 a day, b) may be beyond the intellectual capabilities of some and c) may be more than they are willing to invest before they already are hooked. So yes, you're right, the relatively cheap stompbox is the thing to get somebody hooked (not the zero dollar computer with Mobius), and again, I'd recommand the SMM w/Hazari over the Boss RC-2, even if it is =8035 more (quoting German street prices), for the following = reasons: a) varispeed (from half to double), b) reverse loop, c) feedback control. Rainer --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A4BB.4CC4B810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark, you know what you might be = looking for is a=20 Digitech 7.6 sec Time Machine or RDS Time Machine. I had the 7.6 sec = original=20 and they are CV pulse synced and sweepable with a cv pedal fantastic = warping to=20 be had cheap sometimes. I have seen them on ebay.
 
Jeff
 
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----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 = 2:47=20 PM
Subject: Re: Least Costly Live = Looping=20 Solution

SMM w/Hazari ...

Id forgotton that... Hmmm.. = really like=20 the look of them actually... have you tried them/got one? can it sync = to=20 anything.. anyhow? Im looking for a looper or echo machine (cheeeeeep) = that is=20 triggered (or rather RE-triggered ) via a pulse. its not really for my = looping=20 setup actually, its for my modular synth setup.. (whole other life, = list and=20 friends)

m




On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Rainer = Straschill=20 <moinsound@googlemail.com>= =20 wrote:
Mark=20 said:
>... but arent you all missing Ricks point???
>I = think=20 Rick meant to find the "One hit and your hooked" machine... That was = "Plug n=20 Play" and would have them wanting more...

That may well be = the case,=20 Mark, but if that was his point, he didn't
say so (see the = subject of=20 this discussion). My last post in this
thread specifically = targeted his=20 statement that (paraphrasing here)
you need to spend $700 to be = able to=20 run a decent software looper.

You are right (as I also = pointed out)=20 that the zero dollar computer
solution requires a lot of time and = effort=20 which a) may be more than
$700 worth, e.g. if you're making $400 = a day,=20 b) may be beyond the
intellectual capabilities of some and c) may = be more=20 than they are
willing to invest before they already are = hooked.

So=20 yes, you're right, the relatively cheap stompbox is the thing = to
get=20 somebody hooked (not the zero dollar computer with Mobius), = and
again,=20 I'd recommand the SMM w/Hazari over the Boss RC-2, even if it
is = =8035 more=20 (quoting German street prices), for the following reasons:
a) = varispeed=20 (from half to double), b) reverse loop, c) = feedback
control.

           =20 Rainer




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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A4BB.4CC4B810-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 14 20:58:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 138FD3BE8D; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:58:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 167238344/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.255.207/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.255.207 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmEBAL+2u0lPTv/P/2dsb2JhbAAIz2GDfwaHJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,363,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="167238344" Message-ID: <49BC1C92.1090708@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:07:30 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SMM w/Hazari (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) References: <7334ca1b0903141203p7bb809bar747834d87ce077b9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903141203p7bb809bar747834d87ce077b9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <53EodB.A.SuB.BqBvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:58:41 +0000 (UTC) To elucidate the re-trigger. You have to put it into bypass, then when you come out of bypass it starts the loop from the beginning. No sync at all by design. Maybe you'd be able to hack it so that a pulse earthed out the bypass switch. Of course, then it would be triggering at the end of the pulse, and there's no telling how long the pulse would have to be. However, you would *like* it as a delay I'm sure. If your modular setup can send midi, then there's a 5s stereo sampler in the Behringer Virtualizer, don't know if that helps you tho' Rainer, did you ever use a SMMwH this as the only looper in a performance? Somehow, I couldn't quite see that as being practical. andy Rainer Straschill wrote: > Mark, >> Id forgotton that... Hmmm.. really like the look of them actually... have you tried them/got one? can it sync to anything.. anyhow? >> Im looking for a looper or echo machine (cheeeeeep) that is triggered (or rather RE-triggered ) via a pulse. >> its not really for my looping setup actually, its for my modular synth setup.. (whole other life, list and friends) > > I got one, and there has also been some discussion/comment on this > list in the past (like that one: > http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200711/msg00728.html) > Yes, it can sync to your foot pressing the footswitch. What may sound > like a smart-ass' remark (which, in fact, it is), there may be > applications for you: > there are two footswitches. If you apply a rhythmic pulse to one (say, > a quarter-note beat), then it will timestretch the loop to fit in with > your tapped tempo. 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I'm not entirely sure I understand why you'd see that as not being practical - is it because with the SMM, it takes quite a while and a number of button presses (bypass - tap/record for 2sec. - bypass - tap/record) to erase a loop and start recording a new one? I think I remember that you already mentioned that as a major limitation from your point of view/performance approach when I first wrote about the SMM here, but this is not as important for me as it seems to be for you, for a number of reasons: First, I never ever did a public performance in the past with only one device that could play loops of some sort - in that context, I also regard a pattern sequencer as something that can play loops of some sort. So in public performances, there has always been the possibility to work around any limitations to that regard with another looper. Even in my small bedroom looping setup, there's a DD20 before and a KP3 after the SMM, so I'm again not in that "only looper" situation. (Although the SMM seems to be among the most cumbersome ones when it comes to clear a loop and start a new one, no other looper (with the exception of Mobius, obviously) I know has that nice EDP way of life where you can switch to the next loop and immediately start recording with the push of one button). There is a possible workaround, however: if your new loop is the same length as the old one, you can simply set feedback to zero and overdub the new loop. For the fun of it, I just made the attempt and played a little using only the SMM and for my way of playing, it seems to work out just fine, although I wouldn't want to do an entire evening worth of looping performance that way (but then again, this is true for any looper in my case - see above). 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I don't mean INSERT=3DSUBS or REPLACE, which erase but leave the 'hole'. = =20 I know there is a way to work around this (although it's the opposite way o= f doing what I'm asking), by having INSERT=3DSUS and holding down MULTIPLY = to select the wanted audio. I suppose that I'm asking if I can directly de= lete unwanted audio. Andy ? Anyone ? Thanks, Stephen www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 11:16:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A653BE8D; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 164041601/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.255.207/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.255.207 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMBABOAvElPTv/P/2dsb2JhbAAI0D2DfwaHJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,365,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="164041601" Message-ID: <49BCE5B6.1070403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:25:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Matthias Grob Subject: Re: EDP insert function References: <485264.96837.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <485264.96837.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Stephen Scott wrote: > (apologies to all non-EDP users for this very geeky message) can't see that's a problem, this is the land of the nerd. > > Just wondering if the EDP has a function to instantly erase > a little snippet of audio from a loop (and delete the gap), > in a similar way in which INSERT=SUS is used to plug IN snippets while the button is held dwon. no, it's not a feature. The idea has been mentioned before, particularly Matthias sees it as a way to "fix" a Multiply that came out too long. It's easy enough to accidentally create a loop 9 cycles long when you wanted 8 cycles, and currently there's not a tidy way to recover from that. So I'd imagine this *should* be a feature of the vst edp (loop5). > > I don't mean INSERT=SUBS or REPLACE, which erase but leave the 'hole'. > > I know there is a way to work around this (although it's the opposite way of doing what I'm asking), > by having INSERT=SUS and holding down MULTIPLY to select the wanted audio. > I suppose that I'm asking if I can directly delete unwanted audio. > > Andy ? Anyone ? > > > Thanks, Stephen > > www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 11:31:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D56D93BE8A; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 946841.47839.bm@omp205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1237116695; bh=hMQHpjYEVFXUXgzir90gWiJUuYQ41xgRioObCbCKUMQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bVcqHsSdoPB158npg1xGbML8fFFzJ2anZ/5ZYnKuWLkTamJBMbH0nvC+S9E17rRilYIkjR84XHn/CwAdxZg7k7acgkoOAewckcXdf4kNMbuOvHWmjP0b9zUCBR+/+Bgqg1LlM4ljb+1/B7jhFf06ni4o6Ea6H9FmI9gf7iabaTs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=lYlTGRzD2d9uuK1ClnmX0YUP8dHvYNoBKLhIPHrI9d0nxBbIMw97ggfO2PiSSoYHamNYnf4cU4HvWht/yI9ULf52ljn3qSazn+rrMWpbesWn/+dJMe7DhKL6F3HpUZb1dMGgbBPOXrymhVGCqkJ4CyBmnj3Cvjg8R6fZsi9jF7s=; Message-ID: <684577.10204.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OMTzrywVM1mq6VL9P7wf3VJQZOyRZ0sG5QBYjXT214f1P0lKO0VieB0y3Zj6VJcdVIjJh7vHlOqHuZUn8mFnAgVKKUr8MeDxAkJNdmhqODQZGcomSq2hDVfkhiI1_k9t24ldYsx7aismW.HfdrK7UT2s1F5cCMoX1wdsOWGXIdtF1o7kQuKb0hswbYOeOHvhambr1A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:31:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP insert function To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49BCE5B6.1070403@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:31:36 +0000 (UTC) > The idea has been mentioned before, particularly Matthias > sees it as a way to "fix" a Multiply that came out > too long. > It's easy enough to accidentally create a loop 9 cycles > long when > you wanted 8 cycles, and currently there's not a tidy > way to recover from that. Except to re-multiply starting from first cycle (maybe use MULTIINCREASE if= you need a nice neat 8 cycles) Thanks Andy, Stephen www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 11:50:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 167543BE8D; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=IuEoYZTjQ4WhesH6XDSZ46o9c1K4859awc8Opl4XuuI=; b=kAga5qMtHCmNw6oTlWr/ITdqTMeVCXv/PU9Q4+2xs1fUN+Y4brJUBt9jX0UdSXWYAA 4ktm8hOS1n6EUA4R5ljamxLrRA5PMnYzLM1BOg38ewZfliumDDRrLU5Cb2tBBEXr9BD5 oPiMRiusqBpv9TIpfjDRu0GmOO2HaePxh1q7E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=va0g40MTEbYMfaSBzknoopeL59+f1js5hI9KdR6wwsQcxQCD4OrRDOsqKu1ppfVzgn I3RI6vQr5UQhOvR5YH8Ogwv0XrOmMjEK/ZUqblSucw/Pz9PVxKFdepx+oBpu/HHfqr2X Hj7lpPksWdq8g5QdHP7VydarXbkBlT9WWIutU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BCE5B6.1070403@tiscali.co.uk> References: <485264.96837.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <49BCE5B6.1070403@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:50:43 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903150450p860c0f5me859c2cd3ddd1357@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP insert function From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Thank you for always answering these kind of questions so quickly, Andy! I spotted Stephen's post and marked it for monitoring because I remember having these thoughts over my EDP back in the days. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, andy butler wrote: > no, it's not a feature. > > The idea has been mentioned before, particularly Matthias sees it as a way > to "fix" a Multiply that came out too long. > It's easy enough to accidentally create a loop 9 cycles long when > you wanted 8 cycles, and currently there's not a tidy way to recover from > that. > > So I'd imagine this *should* be a feature of the vst edp (loop5). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 12:53:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481883BE8B; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 167522900/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.255.207/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.255.207 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArEBAJKWvElPTv/P/2dsb2JhbAAIj2TAEYN/Bocn X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,366,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="167522900" Message-ID: <49BCFC6B.4050304@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:02:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP insert function References: <485264.96837.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <49BCE5B6.1070403@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903150450p860c0f5me859c2cd3ddd1357@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903150450p860c0f5me859c2cd3ddd1357@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Thank you for always answering these kind of questions so quickly, > Andy! I spotted Stephen's post and marked it for monitoring because I > remember having these thoughts over my EDP back in the days. > however, looking at the times on the LD mails here, it seems you usually manage to reply to my posts 2-3 mins *before* I send them. ? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 13:50:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 131193BE8D; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Z4oMcgVARMczy59E+EGYmxyz5fFx0y/r5uxCCDK2yT4=; b=kce7UomBfnax8Fq0rZXculKJ7QVTgrbV4o6vu9lx6mW1iFAXA8iCXF5vVUtMBuVqk1 Z2K2VWZ/LHOgmS2QT+/DM3J9R5In9X9LIPexR+49SJEtAbFg4sla+hwbStJ5aR6zp1EQ hkLHA/lBhOAAACe/v02HseqAdaIWgDJhBOdHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JARf94UgcvbheG6b0Fl+OXKe5SZln5NNWJ9EVi0a0CuWWvj1XIwMNQN1XFBq0dT2tb qqlcYBYohNjtU0C9893SMWIoELMGLT7uEP6iyrrAfrKPXqVUyLV+vJFON3Qjx+1/QsFG M4WuuOCvLd3zVhAFBUNPleXGmj2IBolK+JYJQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BCFC6B.4050304@tiscali.co.uk> References: <485264.96837.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <49BCE5B6.1070403@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903150450p860c0f5me859c2cd3ddd1357@mail.gmail.com> <49BCFC6B.4050304@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:50:27 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903150650q3064ac5do2be5f353823448d9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP insert function From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:50:27 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Thank you for always answering these kind of questions so quickly, >> Andy! I spotted Stephen's post and marked it for monitoring because I >> remember having these thoughts over my EDP back in the days. >> On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM, andy butler wrote: > however, looking at the times on the LD mails here, it seems you usually > manage to reply to my posts 2-3 mins *before* I send them. > > ? > > andy Really? Andy, you got to get faster!!!! per ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 15:16:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70EF03BE8A; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VapGOKn7gix34+/vY2C9vSjWQwX3aR1tc4EaKS0O4q4=; b=ra6zKzTrtGZrPiwihW5GHntdSfxPaBwbNyPz+2Vm3H/dIe/e7s/NQlzQPfYZKA3q59 lDdgYSI1s9591jV67NX8i3eXFgrQlTYLrivxn04fnkXJAof7apJBBpMRgGPgyVyRhFsw bg6VHrOi2owey9wuAHwFTgTCxz8LRoCTR3TpM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X6bmHdrzJRfTTgqbF9Fy9wXXmyQclkZ4CrM004sPa5PQYhQRGdA5LIv+aNqiCDceKv 3PCNM4uSCSd3NqRz4zeK7nU9J6GtCWdmNSkbVS53atU+gg1OR+fGDW0zsTS3hqgY3B9T hil/I8ic6ChlhJ/4hat+FfukrgkPch0ulyVFo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903150650q3064ac5do2be5f353823448d9@mail.gmail.com> References: <485264.96837.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <49BCE5B6.1070403@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903150450p860c0f5me859c2cd3ddd1357@mail.gmail.com> <49BCFC6B.4050304@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903150650q3064ac5do2be5f353823448d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 16:16:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a456a6b1d6136a72 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903150816h17eb0668y1e2862f8ba042c25@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP insert function From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ad0d029aca046529d0e9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:16:06 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ad0d029aca046529d0e9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe Swedish servers are just that little bit faster than in the UK Andy... On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> Thank you for always answering these kind of questions so quickly, > >> Andy! I spotted Stephen's post and marked it for monitoring because I > >> remember having these thoughts over my EDP back in the days. > >> > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM, andy butler > wrote: > > > however, looking at the times on the LD mails here, it seems you usually > > manage to reply to my posts 2-3 mins *before* I send them. > > > > ? > > > > andy > > > Really? Andy, you got to get faster!!!! > > per ;-) > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5ad0d029aca046529d0e9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe Swedish servers are just that little bit faster than in the UK An= dy...

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Pe= r Boysen <perbo= ysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Per Boysen wrote:
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>> Thank you for always answering these kind of questions so quickly,=
>> Andy! I spotted Stephen's post and marked it for monitoring be= cause I
>> remember having these thoughts over my EDP back in the days.
>>

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 2:02 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrot= e:

> however, looking at the times on the LD mails here, it seems you usual= ly
> manage to reply to my posts 2-3 mins *before* I send them.
>
> ?
>
> andy


Really? Andy, you got to get faster!!!!

per ;-)




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--001636c5ad0d029aca046529d0e9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 15:45:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 295113BE8D; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 374 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:45:11 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 567345.48943.bm@omp500.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237131536; bh=At/qOLFFdiGGMEC6GLFow9js/l1LhbFa8svCWBYpurY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PxCIFcTSRnhUOVu6iL53oEOB9SmjS/VjOEw+rU1ZwbC5BLnrPrvqTNv3C6b4EB7NGr8oEA+/qYaZHVQPQq6pMLnqWEh9h8jSC4NvmFK8nwqCUbOKo4peppDCzM4R7pNszXoUjOJl12+DJHq6CNTQT0Y3sXwW50TVfsE9jAxLqFs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fpcFdseAsGcVyzO5h6gMcmKsAHBwHUJT1kKlInSfIHq/3XrIgYdOzsRQiAAkCp624K2BehD3EVBJXf5DXqRR689GfzbylmgVzwVVOhEChYg1HPaXeGx7LXx35y97Tr56nqtPc4HvReN1rCS/tpARYZXqitXxa4YSLz/09gjTkSk=; Message-ID: <422019.26562.qm@web45912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: U6SOiHAVM1n0tE.cGbSWZ_xTshBRJWJKsz5s.3Z3NtM9JaXWlSkLdhQhSJcG6dr0m4HMtWJCIyqDqR1hDDRqLJmBcuFl6xViLnJsPhvUO.JHIeHyTIta0X4BGqIGoHjW3uizMsFZuVjKfa_SR7Q8.GQeTZAGMysetXj8sKTE4yD3lmC6i1OOvGZs5HG5Rsjq1RRWr1knUaHqC2MNXwi3FxchO85mxp_TACsfay1BVywuyvXQfUDJ_UVagfM4ORbmlris X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <7334ca1b0903140518k72fa350ex91f352a526b912c1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:38:55 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-768290698-1237131535=:26562" Resent-Message-ID: <1WjsWC.A.PCC.HKSvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:45:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-768290698-1237131535=:26562 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use my work-supplied laptop and Mobius with free VSTs -- zero cost! ;)=0A= =0AExcept for FCB midi controller....=0A=0AAlso boomerang and RC-20xl for b= ackground loops and those times when Mobius crashes......=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___= _____________________________=0AFrom: Rainer Straschill =0ATo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Saturday, March 1= 4, 2009 8:18:27 AM=0ASubject: Least Costly Live Looping Solution=0A=0ARick,= =0A=0AI have to say I'm somewhat surprised how you seem to be trying to tak= e=0Acomputers out of the race completely in this discussion by using false= =0Aassumptions which clearly contradict the facts pointed out here by=0Ae.g= .. Jeff Larson and Tony K.=0A=0AThe most obvious example being:=0A"The good = news is that we are beginning to see laptops on sale for as=0Alittle as $40= 0 (USD) With your aforementioned footpedals and breakout=0Abox this brings = the tab up to about=0A$700 (USD)RE"=0A=0AA computer that can run an applica= tion like Mobius in stand-alone mode=0Acan be had for free. I personally th= rew away a (working) computer one=0Ayear ago which was at that time approxi= mately ten years old and hadn't=0Abeen a top performer at the date of purch= ase. According to experiences=0Areported on the Mobius discussion group, th= is hardware could run=0AMobius, albeit with limitations, which mostly affec= t unavailablity of=0Apitch shifting and number of simultaneous tracks. Apar= t from that,=0Ait's a looper that is far more powerful than anything out th= ere with=0Athe exception of the really big players.=0ACRT monitors have bee= n thrown away in the hundreds due to the=0Awidespread arrival of flatscreen= display technology. So these can be=0Ahad for free as well.=0AA computer f= rom that time usually includes an audio interface which=0A(with the excepti= on of latency issues) is more than sufficient for the=0Atask at hand.=0AJef= f pointed out how you could use e.g. a cheap USB numeric keypad and=0Ajury-= rig it to use it as a foot controller for Mobius, while Tony K=0Aand others= correctly pointed out that you don't need foot control at=0Aall and can us= e the keyboard for controlling Mobius. As a matter of=0Afact, I've seen a g= reat many outstanding and experienced loopers who=0Adid at time control a (= stompbox) looper with their hands, among them=0A(without wanting to wilfull= y omit someone) Michael Klobuchar, Matt=0ADagignon and Genie.=0A=0ASummariz= ing, you can get a looper for free. That's right, for free! It=0Awill of co= urse require either some intellectual capacity or a friend=0Awho has this f= or=0A=A0 =A0 * setting up windows so it becomes resource-friendly=0A=A0 =A0= * setting up Mobius=0A=0AAnd it may require more than one trip to the junk= yard.=0A=0AIf you're willing to spend even more than zero dollars, look fo= r a=0Aused laptop on ebay for below 100 bucks, which gives you all of this= =0Awith less hassle.=0A=0AThis post should by no means invalidate all the r= easons why someone=0Awould still want to use a hardware (stompbox) user, li= ke reliability,=0Aease of setup and operation, portability and all the othe= r important=0Areasons which there are and which lead to some people still u= sing=0Astompbox loopers even if their apartment is full of computers, MIDI= =0Afoot controllers and studio quality audio interfaces.=0AHowever, with th= e goal of "least costly", the computer does win - if=0Aonly because you can= get a sufficient second-hand one free.=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer= =0A=0A=0A --0-768290698-1237131535=:26562 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use my work-supplied laptop and Mobius with free VST= s -- zero cost! ;)
=0A
 
=0A
Except for FCB midi con= troller....
=0A
 
=0A
Also boomerang and RC-20xl for= background loops and those times when Mobius crashes......
=0A
=0A
=0A
=0AFrom: Rainer Straschill <moinsound@goo= glemail.com>
To: loop= ers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Sen= t: Saturday, March 14, 2009 8:18:27 AM
Subject: Least Costly Live Looping Solution

Rick,

I have to say I'm somewhat surprised how you seem to = be trying to take
computers out of the race completely in this discussio= n by using false
assumptions which clearly contradict the facts pointed = out here by
e.g. Jeff Larson and Tony K.

The most obvious example= being:
"The good news is that we are beginning to see laptops on sale f= or as
little as $400 (USD) With your aforementioned footpedals and break= out
box this brings the tab up to about
$700 (USD)RE"

A comput= er that can run an application like Mobius in stand-alone mode
can be had for free. I personally threw away a (working) computer = one
year ago which was at that time approximately ten years old and hadn= 't
been a top performer at the date of purchase. According to experience= s
reported on the Mobius discussion group, this hardware could run
Mo= bius, albeit with limitations, which mostly affect unavailablity of
pitc= h shifting and number of simultaneous tracks. Apart from that,
it's a lo= oper that is far more powerful than anything out there with
the exceptio= n of the really big players.
CRT monitors have been thrown away in the h= undreds due to the
widespread arrival of flatscreen display technology. = So these can be
had for free as well.
A computer from that time usual= ly includes an audio interface which
(with the exception of latency issu= es) is more than sufficient for the
task at hand.
Jeff pointed out ho= w you could use e.g. a cheap USB numeric keypad and
jury-rig it to use it as a foot controller for Mobius, while Tony K
and others corr= ectly pointed out that you don't need foot control at
all and can use th= e keyboard for controlling Mobius. As a matter of
fact, I've seen a grea= t many outstanding and experienced loopers who
did at time control a (st= ompbox) looper with their hands, among them
(without wanting to wilfully= omit someone) Michael Klobuchar, Matt
Dagignon and Genie.

Summar= izing, you can get a looper for free. That's right, for free! It
will of= course require either some intellectual capacity or a friend
who has th= is for
    * setting up windows so it becomes resource-friendl= y
    * setting up Mobius

And it may require more than = one trip to the junk yard.

If you're willing to spend even more than= zero dollars, look for a
used laptop on ebay for below 100 bucks, which= gives you all of this
with less hassle.

This post should by no means invalidate all the reasons why someone
would still want to = use a hardware (stompbox) user, like reliability,
ease of setup and oper= ation, portability and all the other important
reasons which there are a= nd which lead to some people still using
stompbox loopers even if their = apartment is full of computers, MIDI
foot controllers and studio quality= audio interfaces.
However, with the goal of "least costly", the compute= r does win - if
only because you can get a sufficient second-hand one fr= ee.

            Rainer


=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-768290698-1237131535=:26562-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 15:58:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E063D3BE8E; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 643844.32113.bm@omp220.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1237132729; bh=lZRb8HW+5bih2czcK1CeNbuhddLK1NF3Z9QKFblCihU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K2O895cg3jdEoGgEVb1s3IxgEktSzXnguequusDyFbxC2CVkNxk1pGyGNc1oN7Lzc+4pqPX8LqS9oLugEni2d02eluX8WBMElxeSSuzruepHjZDanfdkFH21BmZvQUc6wYB7IUlJ6PRDgMMSgQtNeZWN+PUzol3kePndQTrrjnQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xbjJQjqYRbeTP9WBzUmoK5lTNTqLmItyKv1TIXEilfW8R/qkdd7WGtZEdpFzGEHw5eUxKqPkRrJD5tjfxaxH7Mfx+Gs/3g9UZXhIKIM9oDF9Zt5h53GYPAsU3hkR1Kl7J67LG/Mop3WHtoU2FBcQYyZiRdE9RFq0qMQX6FodnxM=; Message-ID: <618168.89372.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AuuJAdcVM1khUGCLymd1AGoCCAQuuCUQ8Rg2gc0gUfiP1m8qLVzn47zgmeZ6x_6J_KDG2GB2uzFe4G3S0b2ZdEJKWZFQDVLjU2lAm_l1QUdDQL1nI6Ew7XHTftelLFTswg5SDzZZoxzNS1.9NTHyPUVP.orz0ZUrh4LDssent.hJ2gT.1A32gY95Fm4QOEa8BoLBXQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:58:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <422019.26562.qm@web45912.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:58:50 +0000 (UTC) --- On Sun, 15/3/09, E Gross wrote: > From: E Gross > Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 3:38 PM > I use my work-supplied laptop and Mobius with free VSTs -- > zero cost! ;) >=20 > Except for FCB midi controller.... >=20 > Also boomerang and RC-20xl for background loops and those > times when Mobius crashes...... >=20 That's interesting. I wonder how many hardware loopsters take a PC/MAC/software to use as a bac= k-up at a gig.=20 I am, of course, joking ;) Stephen www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 18:31:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE573BE8F; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 163660937/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.255.207/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.255.207 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMBAELmvElPTv/P/2dsb2JhbAAI0AGDfwaHJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,367,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="163660937" Message-ID: <49BD4BAA.7090004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:40:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SMM w/Hazari (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) References: <7334ca1b0903141626l2501e3a8k3c11eff3c8447b8e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903141626l2501e3a8k3c11eff3c8447b8e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Straschill wrote: >> Rainer, did you ever use a SMMwH this as the only looper in a performance? >> Somehow, I couldn't quite see that as being practical. > > I'm not entirely sure I understand why you'd see that as not being > practical - is it because with the SMM, it takes quite a while and a > number of button presses (bypass - tap/record for 2sec. - bypass - > tap/record) to erase a loop and start recording a new one? That's it exactly, plus there's also the disappointment that stopping the loop also bypasses the echo. Then there's the awkwardness of having to hold down the button for the duration of the loop and release it accurately. I find that much more difficult than the regular tap to start, tap to end method. Of course, holding down the OD button while standing, and operating a swell pedal with the other, is rather fun. > I think I > remember that you already mentioned that as a major limitation from > your point of view/performance approach when I first wrote about the > SMM here, but this is not as important for me as it seems to be for > you, for a number of reasons: > > First, I never ever did a public performance in the past with only one > device that could play loops of some sort - um, actually I'm totally with you on this. The EHSMMwH is my auxiliary looper of choice at the moment. It's also nice for adding the odd loop to a band performance. ...but I wonder if it's a good recommendation as first looper. ok, I've just done a quick test against the Headrush. Headrush: yes, it's relatively easy to create a new loop, but nowhere near as nice as the EDP instant re-record. A bit boring though. Not possible to develop a loop in any way. It does have it's own "undo" though. SMM: ...ahh.. it's much more fun. Getting an accurate loop takes a bit of practise I guess (2 or 3 tries typically for me at the moment). It's possible to develop the loop though. ...and it's possible to create a loopette with the delay and resample it to the looper. I'm not so familiar with the Boss units, but I feel we have a shortlist for Rick's question. I'll propose this in a separate mail. > > There is a possible workaround, however: if your new loop is the same > length as the old one, you can simply set feedback to zero and overdub > the new loop. Which gives 3 alternatives 1) you follow your suggestion exactly, hear the 2 loops overlap as you play, which allows good timing, but has harmonic implications. 2) you hold down OD for one two looptimes, and play on the second, which gives a seamless join but needs metronomic timing. 3) First substitute with a harmonically neutral rhythm keeper, then add the new loop. andy > > For the fun of it, I just made the attempt and played a little using > only the SMM and for my way of playing, it seems to work out just > fine, although I wouldn't want to do an entire evening worth of > looping performance that way (but then again, this is true for any > looper in my case - see above). > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 19:00:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E1223BE92; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 167675027/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.255.207/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.255.207 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoMBAEvtvElPTv/P/2dsb2JhbAAIz3yDfwaHJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,367,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="167675027" Message-ID: <49BD5254.30105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:09:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Looping Solution - the ANSWER References: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49B987EC.9080700@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:00:14 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Why don't we make some really solid recommendations for newbie and wanna > be live loopers that are economy minded, primarily. > > CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS FOR THE BEGINNING LIVE LOOPER* > OK folks, this is just a suggestion, I'm not very familiar with the Boss gear. Given that software may be a good alternative, let's look at the hardware How about we say, Start from the top of the list and buy the first one you can afford DL4 £240 (maybe £200) SMM & Hazari £145 RC-20XL £140 (maybe £125) + psu Headrush £140 +psu (maybe £120)(it's gone up! used to be <100) DD-7 £120 + psu RC-2 £90 + psu Maybe the list varies according to local prices. Maybe I missed someone's favourite. (well, I missed Michael's suggestion of 2 tape decks, but I assume we're looking at being able to tap in the looptime) ...or perhaps just got the wrong order there. Maybe we can knock some of those off the list altogether to simplify. Suggestions? Just looking at artists who manage to put a show together with just one looper, the DL4 and RC-20XL presumably should be near the top of the list. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 19:08:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10AE73BE8F; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 364 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:08:30 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 170673.88442.bm@omp401.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237143745; bh=Dja+jv5c3z6cdzcyqB27y/2Qgfce+15kxS8VaeLlOnQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yky2DRPHD5C8hhsqpga/JNtKHYzRtOz9hO63Go4/9eUkAoho61zp9xU4gPsLBowQPesqzu9WT/3Z5OV3p8Vy8qTU0mmtyvyLVLtlvixeMaXyhhRGoOwJ02pe+0hNrpvwEKxVd1dnlOsFLVLAFIoXg6TNn8utihgJMEI9DF9GL3A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kDQvHJ/33h1+qukR/rBm5MjbGMb+EXnBO+Hhwt1edBW2uYXMVa2xgg0U0qUvNaSMrp2MZvTkwKpSmy+SVCqfIPamhRwqxIgE8Vp/ca+vmx7lYle/zUj+aanKaResJ0uJXL/FEWpF9Yv6488ctVUucQF2YHtZF+vIBibBvIlTTEM=; Message-ID: <973533.82039.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: J5d3UbYVM1nv_Zp2VXnECQr9QIkcpDm3hVdTtuFAv6oVgnGFoPSWKm3nMCDjJGIP9sMkw68DozdoUfWWc_39Y3gi.Lnj79dp.I1O8tVpBiz6EL9Ud9OKid3aVcAYho1_G2XUdXz5xDP34cUMdu9fgWVnOAA8pka56WHJmY06TPrKsCdAm.SIbxyE4DNcpVfMw928d41r008REAVOb7oaSIlKHmRdETfnxrtUuKnlexr7_8iBAUqQ3aopAZBZfDX0 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <618168.89372.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1701806418-1237143745=:82039" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:08:30 +0000 (UTC) --0-1701806418-1237143745=:82039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hehe, I actually enjoy crashing it, it gives a feeling of satisfaction. Nor= mally won't happen until 6-7 tracks of multiloops have been running and man= ipulated for awhile....I haven't done anything to tweak the laptop for Mobi= us since it needs to still work for my job....I haven't taken the step to p= lay a looping gig, with my band I use only=A0the boomerang....it's interest= ing the reaction that produces to some quite simple loops, it is magical to= some people (depending on how altered their mind is)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______= _________________________=0AFrom: Stephen Scott = =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 1= 1:58:49 AM=0ASubject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A--- On Sun, 15/3/09, E Gross wrote:=0A=0A> Fr= om: E Gross =0A> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Loop= ing Solution=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, = 15 March, 2009, 3:38 PM=0A> I use my work-supplied laptop and Mobius with f= ree VSTs --=0A> zero cost! ;)=0A> =0A> Except for FCB midi controller....= =0A> =0A> Also boomerang and RC-20xl for background loops and those=0A> tim= es when Mobius crashes......=0A> =0A=0AThat's interesting.=0A=0AI wonder ho= w many hardware loopsters take a PC/MAC/software to use as a back-up at a g= ig. =0A=0AI am, of course, joking ;)=0A=0AStephen=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/s= ylvianfisher=0A=0A=0A --0-1701806418-1237143745=:82039 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hehe, I actually enjoy crashing it, it gives a feeling= of satisfaction. Normally won't happen until 6-7 tracks of multiloops have= been running and manipulated for awhile....I haven't done anything to twea= k the laptop for Mobius since it needs to still work for my job....I haven'= t taken the step to play a looping gig, with my band I use only the bo= omerang....it's interesting the reaction that produces to some quite simple= loops, it is magical to some people (depending on how altered their mind i= s)
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=0A
=0AFrom: Stephen Scott <= ;loopingsteve@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:58:49 AM
Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Loopi= ng Solution






--- On Sun, 15/3/09, E Gross = <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: E Gross &= lt;slapbandjam@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Least Costly L= ive Looping Solution
> To: Loopers= -Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 3:38= PM
> I use my work-supplied laptop and Mobius with free VSTs --
> zero cost! ;)=
>
> Except for FCB midi controller....
>
> Also = boomerang and RC-20xl for background loops and those
> times when Mob= ius crashes......
>

That's interesting.

I wonder how m= any hardware loopsters take a PC/MAC/software to use as a back-up at a gig.=

I am, of course, joking ;)

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1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 20:01:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFF1F3BE8F; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 864 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:01:00 UTC Message-ID: <942832F7436B4CF09136A7600B73844A@LAPPY> From: "Jay Bell" To: References: <618168.89372.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <973533.82039.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: EDP MIDI Editor for Cubase Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:46:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9A5A6.BD1BF510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=07FadgOxB5eV-BvvE_0A:9 a=LbdeeyJm1djlEab_mSMA:7 a=-5e0yWl-Em2WduhWWHuvTxpXG2AA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=CxoA7enKx-oz7fvnTxcA:9 a=PIoZ8oG5Vs2nI4x9HpUA:7 a=fLSeWf4gb4b0fbLOZfM7bU3S5IkA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:01:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9A5A6.BD1BF510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey all, So something I've had on the backlog for a while is to try and conjure = up some kind of MIDI editor for my EDP/DAW, so I can make up bizarro = sequences of EDP MIDI commands, have it as a MIDI track in Cubase = controlling my EDP, and then play stuff through it and hope something = inspirational comes out the other end :) It occurred to me that probably most of the commands could be done via a = drum map, and then nicely entered/edited with the drum editor... with = perphaps a MIDI plugin/transform insert to generate multibyte sequences = if necessary. Or something. Kinda. I haven't really had a window in my copious free time to try this out = yet, but has anyone here done something similar? Or is there another, = perhaps easier/better way to do this?=20 Thanks, --jay ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9A5A6.BD1BF510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey all,
 
So something I've had on the backlog = for a while is=20 to try and conjure up some kind of MIDI editor for my EDP/DAW, so I can = make up=20 bizarro sequences of EDP MIDI commands, have it as a MIDI track in = Cubase=20 controlling my EDP, and then play stuff through it and hope something=20 inspirational comes out the other end :)
 
It occurred to me that probably most of = the=20 commands could be done via a drum map, and then nicely entered/edited = with the=20 drum editor... with perphaps a MIDI plugin/transform insert to generate=20 multibyte sequences if necessary. Or something. Kinda.
 
I haven't really had a window in my = copious free=20 time to try this out yet, but has anyone here done something similar? Or = is=20 there another, perhaps easier/better way to do this?
 
Thanks,
--jay
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C9A5A6.BD1BF510-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 22:34:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A813F3BE8B; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=W3Fe57fLAAAA:8 a=SjWTRL0uCN9zwWyc86cA:9 a=81L4Qp6FHjRtN38U1ocA:7 a=6hvFGJdPh2cvYhSeS3daBnVRNTMA:4 a=wCaoJTriV0sA:10 Message-ID: <49BD826A.1070209@vtx.ch> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:34:18 +0100 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP MIDI Editor for Cubase References: <618168.89372.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <973533.82039.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <942832F7436B4CF09136A7600B73844A@LAPPY> In-Reply-To: <942832F7436B4CF09136A7600B73844A@LAPPY> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:34:22 +0000 (UTC) yep I > http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/07/sun-iphone-java_1.html d that a long time ago you can find it on the loopers-delight site Its for the older cubase thought VST32 and I dont know if you can import = this in the current version very useful and fun Claude Jay Bell a =E9crit : > Hey all, >=20 > So something I've had on the backlog for a while is to try and conjure = up some kind of MIDI editor for my EDP/DAW, so I can make up bizarro sequ= ences of EDP MIDI commands, have it as a MIDI track in Cubase controlling= my EDP, and then play stuff through it and hope something inspirational = comes out the other end :) >=20 > It occurred to me that probably most of the commands could be done via = a drum map, and then nicely entered/edited with the drum editor... with p= erphaps a MIDI plugin/transform insert to generate multibyte sequences if= necessary. Or something. Kinda. >=20 > I haven't really had a window in my copious free time to try this out y= et, but has anyone here done something similar? Or is there another, perh= aps easier/better way to do this?=20 >=20 > Thanks, > --jay From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 23:01:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 999A53BE80; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <35BBA6E518F441DDB12E806BE2A6CFDD@LAPPY> From: "Jay Bell" To: References: <618168.89372.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <973533.82039.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <942832F7436B4CF09136A7600B73844A@LAPPY> <49BD826A.1070209@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: EDP MIDI Editor for Cubase Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:01:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=W3Fe57fLAAAA:8 a=bdE_amJdYhHGbzD8L3sA:9 a=Pyg74tZx-aBNPVoSKn0A:7 a=X7LbDXke-cz99wHQgEqPkpFsY4gA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 Resent-Message-ID: <2sgltB.A.AhG.0iYvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Hey thanks! Had a search on the site, found a bunch of references to your Cubase drummap on the mailing list, but can't find the actual file anywhere? --jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claude Voit" To: Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:34 PM Subject: Re: EDP MIDI Editor for Cubase yep I > http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/07/sun-iphone-java_1.html d that a long time ago you can find it on the loopers-delight site Its for the older cubase thought VST32 and I dont know if you can import this in the current version very useful and fun Claude Jay Bell a écrit : > Hey all, > > So something I've had on the backlog for a while is to try and conjure up > some kind of MIDI editor for my EDP/DAW, so I can make up bizarro > sequences of EDP MIDI commands, have it as a MIDI track in Cubase > controlling my EDP, and then play stuff through it and hope something > inspirational comes out the other end :) > > It occurred to me that probably most of the commands could be done via a > drum map, and then nicely entered/edited with the drum editor... with > perphaps a MIDI plugin/transform insert to generate multibyte sequences if > necessary. Or something. Kinda. > > I haven't really had a window in my copious free time to try this out yet, > but has anyone here done something similar? Or is there another, perhaps > easier/better way to do this? > Thanks, > --jay From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 15 23:24:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0C2A3BE8C; Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=i5gx3tTf0+8B/NQ78Olb6h72Q/Yen4aZ06voHKdBxWmEDR9yLoNafgE95PF+XiYum0VY2nilw3liECWy2IOH3C43uijlbSldxyOY+pvW2CFu7yFXNQ/s0AmXipOuOKwUx1PAZ470ijpCz2nykVNZQaFjzwXlCD+kOM8T4t/ufBc= ; X-YMail-OSG: F.vUXZwVM1kDVOo3S6CFw5h9FpRlFZZhKANC9w5uDip_.SEddVfAG08jz84Zg7UqFBgtNW3GfM9Zg24pEeYmvQtJx5UYZGRqpm8Ng_LsSL3Vey1F1H.ryyNdE.31Nyfl8GNJtfQiEkc3WNrci6XyIaJILGaI9GWZxGK5rrlhDvQ1iYG7dqMAgkhnmPpC5PMmXBYaKYSasXDHSjwWSL2iYZOFWScACeLb X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000b01c9a5c5$4170c660$0501a8c0@B> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <618168.89372.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <973533.82039.qm@web45902.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <942832F7436B4CF09136A7600B73844A@LAPPY> <49BD826A.1070209@vtx.ch> <35BBA6E518F441DDB12E806BE2A6CFDD@LAPPY> Subject: Re: EDP MIDI Editor for Cubase Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:24:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, Jay something similar with MIDI clips in Ableton www.youtube.com/rickygrahammusic Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Bell" To: Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 11:01 PM Subject: Re: EDP MIDI Editor for Cubase > Hey thanks! > > Had a search on the site, found a bunch of references to your Cubase > drummap on the mailing list, but can't find the actual file anywhere? > > --jay > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Claude Voit" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: EDP MIDI Editor for Cubase > > > yep I > http://www.infoworld.com/article/08/03/07/sun-iphone-java_1.html > > d that a long time ago you can find it on the loopers-delight site > Its for the older cubase thought VST32 and I dont know if you can import > this in the current version > > very useful and fun > > Claude > > Jay Bell a écrit : >> Hey all, >> >> So something I've had on the backlog for a while is to try and conjure up >> some kind of MIDI editor for my EDP/DAW, so I can make up bizarro >> sequences of EDP MIDI commands, have it as a MIDI track in Cubase >> controlling my EDP, and then play stuff through it and hope something >> inspirational comes out the other end :) >> >> It occurred to me that probably most of the commands could be done via a >> drum map, and then nicely entered/edited with the drum editor... with >> perphaps a MIDI plugin/transform insert to generate multibyte sequences >> if necessary. Or something. Kinda. >> >> I haven't really had a window in my copious free time to try this out >> yet, but has anyone here done something similar? Or is there another, >> perhaps easier/better way to do this? >> Thanks, >> --jay > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. 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--=======___Eventbrite___=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 13:26:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 385853BE7E; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237209974; bh=MkKigO6kFrDfxem8Xvla9X0LKtiEIQTJtnrGtWLmSE0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eKl96nbRQ1O+75S5Kl8qshEUC44z5Gs3wkRy7tfUa7RJU/wq/Q2xdcMVdCZPOyjKRUzqoj6qD8Zf0tLgqBNVF6G/oloHwS86Pa+tJA96X4BGDwO8DOkXpsKye+o4jt+ZWip8A6WWTt9txeX0oF8qubeVvgJZeoIN/xUV5LuDWNI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZJQ6OhNhVTY8kCQdZjCNDB6mfOIZeKW5Y8eXrjAlwEj9C9ZYMLy3vLNBDm3m3u1tFD35Eufdz90f+TqaKfrPHw9FHZhvg7qMzX2oP/Vl98bq5dfSIwtFEEn5CXQS10demR00VybWwh8ojEJBwrHWv0J/W59ISWDn89HzoQ8vH/U=; Message-ID: <248798.92438.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2p_lI3wVM1kkTn0vVYhhF5UodmH8hosLp3CR1lkvzSyAM1pTxfEQe.EuK.NPyeA5jXa0.PVMq_IZ_l5InaMrQ098XmSUrXnGBdHm4mTmfcrKbcJsuLncmL77YcFTCc9scfvHH9NPX7I3rfSOOIWeeIa71fuCnYlVbEgFCZFRCZtKnvGtPQA8dV710zj_vn5CJR8HS17F_xWsM7mNxAbGsA9hj_xbgiQ5Lws0mas- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 06:26:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <618168.89372.qm@web24608.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:26:15 +0000 (UTC) here is another one which i dont think anybody here has ever tried http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php not a very cheap solution but since you mentioned the Boomerang which is about as much i threw it in as well. Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 3/15/09, Stephen Scott wrote: > From: Stephen Scott > Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, March 15, 2009, 8:58 AM > --- On Sun, 15/3/09, E Gross > wrote: > > > From: E Gross > > Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Sunday, 15 March, 2009, 3:38 PM > > I use my work-supplied laptop and Mobius with free > VSTs -- > > zero cost! ;) > > > > Except for FCB midi controller.... > > > > Also boomerang and RC-20xl for background loops and > those > > times when Mobius crashes...... > > > > That's interesting. > > I wonder how many hardware loopsters take a PC/MAC/software > to use as a back-up at a gig. > > I am, of course, joking ;) > > Stephen > > > www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 14:43:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 583D73BE81; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 167627692/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.245.180/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.245.180 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsgBANsBvklPTvW0/2dsb2JhbAAI1SmDfwaHJw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,373,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="167627692" Message-ID: <49BE67C4.9010802@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:52:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution References: <248798.92438.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <248798.92438.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:43:57 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > here is another one which i dont think anybody here has ever tried > > http://www.empresseffects.com/superdelay.php >From the description it's like a variation of the SMM+haz more delay ped than looper. In a similar vein:- http://www.pigtronix.com/products08/echolution.html but expensive too :-( > > not a very cheap solution but since you mentioned the Boomerang which is about as much i threw it in as well. > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 15:26:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B641C3BE89; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 372 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:26:11 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=d1vCcSPq4+YfHvc8UhO5DgD/SaXxQSs6kMfNHPulIQk=; b=PTSVBavBmA8venAGY8NCfJnfWkU8WKoUnpYnYK3FHFqAQ1DjXED0dzdMpx1P3GL8wj RlqW3m/z+kI1ni3Kv8NWshBPW/Ek30lNOJlhi75FCA6ppuG5nCINnUBh94enwwBhSLss B/216bU2gMRdigboI5dA5FXSC34GiPwdbu30w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aFWn0rUMxVfHYWrWyGhVHFj7v7KfUDVrs8hHslWv1vBKreg7mD9tNy3RM3L6LiZ1Wm 6gmc09o7pPNe9E/jKFf3aqwze3lXACP1qQe3pktVMELCsIr61g9meiel2m9cvNVccfoK ragOxcldz4aOA1vVKNuif+dLRTH8sVmjdkVaY= Message-ID: <49BE6E1B.3060206@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:19:55 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_75IDB.A.es.T-mvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Anders Bergdahl schrieb: > But WHY do we feel that some music tells a STORY, there are no narrative > elements, we clearly mean something else than a story in a book, don't we? > SORRY I do like to read philosophy, Wittgenstein and that type of stuff. > I feel that we use story in a very loose an undefined we, are we playing > the same game? I think we do play in the same game. A story made with words is basically creating a timeline of pictures by describing what happened in words (the meaning doesn't create a story, it helps to understand, at its best). A musical story can create a timeline of feelings, which I would call a story as well. It could also create pictures by association which tells a story. This story might be very different between listeners, and might also be different for the musician. It seems a story made out of words is fixed and everybody perceives the same story, but that is a complete illusion if you think about it... Simply listen to the classics of musical story telling like Smetanas Vltava... I think its pretty evidently story telling... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 15:32:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A1E73BE81; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=RhQTJdJL59L4OWQzlP2xxElUZHrcQHgq75X7PvG/fq8=; b=vfFramabfeyQuPbN2eU+FqaS8mH5Zqe/w6uZaOlxBfdGrMYzQ46b+4Pr2jb7WPcCRi 3hQEctSERVF2QzGbDyMh1b0Gic8KW5TF0/XevQnVdZ+T+klZ18Ar9hHCRHJEn3GjywNZ flk81vd/nkyCBcrMl3t0vvnvLAc7w7U7kYB7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=E+9o0dotwWyCMVFnDMiQkjxvPTUX4mMTf6YUud0OaItaznq+UAeneWcIWWiB7T1Njb xn6SYvaZy5QV9qHPKGeeDY0L0BEDHBELY8ENpYhOw7Smr5V3BwTuLjYcTDOv1auyywwW UZ+2P5jNBXgLDA8cvCRfwJEmbfF5hl+G1NK8M= Message-ID: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:32:26 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak schrieb: > Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a > community like this. I would prefer a forum website, that offers many > more options for everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and > grow even more if we would move in this direction. It would loose me, because a forum is 1000 times less efficient than a list. I still look for evidence that there is any advantage of a forum over a list and didn't find any. (Unless I lurk once a year, which wouldn't qualify for being an active member of a community...) Please explain what is more efficient with a forum? (to build up a single page in a browser it needs at least 10 time longer than my e-mail client, I can't read and answer offline, to name the two deal killers of a forum...) A FUDforum would actually allow both together, but there seem to be difficulties to set it up easily/properly... my 2 cents ;) Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 15:44:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD9BE3BE8C; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BE73F5.3020108@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:44:53 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looper vs storyteller. if there even is References: <333287c30903020449s4bf5738bvaadde7dbacbcc768@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903020652s799aa8fdi3a3beb7234fbb800@mail.gmail.com> <333287c30903021543m4b9b1fc6t3234dfad724dda7d@mail.gmail.com> <49BE6E1B.3060206@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <49BE6E1B.3060206@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Extremely well put, Stefan! This echoes my thoughts on the matter, though I'd given up trying to find the words to express it. (Clearly, I should have composed a tune instead...) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I think we do play in the same game. A story made with words is > basically creating a timeline of pictures by describing what happened > in words (the meaning doesn't create a story, it helps to understand, > at its best). > A musical story can create a timeline of feelings, which I would call > a story as well. It could also create pictures by association which > tells a story. This story might be very different between listeners, > and might also be different for the musician. > It seems a story made out of words is fixed and everybody perceives > the same story, but that is a complete illusion if you think about it... > Simply listen to the classics of musical story telling like Smetanas > Vltava... I think its pretty evidently story telling... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 16:06:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B89A3BE8B; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OHbVInzr09Na155n54HIlZ1fCt0Lw1hE4xWZorjxgjQ=; b=G5ZiPzO7mxZHB9dmzliGFIa9vDze02t7uM/OkbOeYFQi3RWplUh29DhXzQqSKlCQDf kbVu8rdD1VZB3SJM4GgyZZ+G/xUKjCoL98rxA+pzz3+4DayO9i7ih9fAXlWG4NyyAwu4 W8OTE8n08pv7+aXywYkymwuPMpmQqUV98r2j0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=gib1VAjebahjAnS44G0bMf0BT1wP4SD21n59AqPCUNer6rjNweAlF3EixwyslNxYVz dBUg55znQoXic1rAk0FKD3nnVH4oPlLDd0XvTKQ19tXa3OBtLNSfEPySJdgE6jo4C74T YarR3OTvIeKDtK3ntw4gpaS5N6mNQVoGBrLco= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> References: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:06:01 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903160906h23367f09o71a30c41c269249f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151751149a7c134304653ea05b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:06:02 +0000 (UTC) --00151751149a7c134304653ea05b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The email list shows activity automatically. I am notified that there's new discussion. I actually have the body of the discussion right there in the email. What could be better? Threading occurs if you preserve the subject headings. A forum requires you to go to yet another website. Headings for "topics" are usually so broad that you have to search for relevent info manually, one post at a time. Someone has to be there to maintain the new site. Email lists tend to self-manage unless someone wants to get more involved. If this is a re-emergence of the previous discussion I apologize for wasting bandwidth with this reply, but we've had fairly strong consensus regarding this subject and find the email list format just fine. There is a forum-based page though, I just don't ever go there. -m On 3/16/09, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > > Sjaak schrieb: > >> Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a >> community like this. I would prefer a forum website, that offers many >> more options for everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and >> grow even more if we would move in this direction. >> > > It would loose me, because a forum is 1000 times less efficient than a > list. I still look for evidence that there is any advantage of a forum over > a list and didn't find any. (Unless I lurk once a year, which wouldn't > qualify for being an active member of a community...) > > Please explain what is more efficient with a forum? (to build up a single > page in a browser it needs at least 10 time longer than my e-mail client, I > can't read and answer offline, to name the two deal killers of a forum...) > --00151751149a7c134304653ea05b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The email list shows activity automatically. I am notified that there's new discussion. I actually have the body of the discussion right there in the email. What could be better? Threading occurs if you preserve the subject headings.

A forum requires you to go to yet another website. Headings for "topics" are usually so broad that you have to search for releven= t info manually, one post at a time. Someone has to be there to maintain the new site. Email lists tend to self-manage unless someone wants to get more involved.

If this is a re-emergence of the previous discussion I apologize for wasting bandwidth with this reply, but we've had fairly strong consensus regarding this subject and find the email list format just fine. There is a forum-based page though, I just don't ever go there.=A0 -m

On 3/16/09, Stefan Tiedje <st= efantiedje@googlemail.com> wrote:
Sjaak schrieb:
Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a
community like this. I would prefer a forum website, that offers many
more options for everyone. I think Loopers-Delight could benefit and
grow even more if we would move in this direction.

It would loose me, because a forum is 1000 times less efficient than a list. I still look for evidence that there is any advantage of a forum over a list and didn't find any. (Unless I lurk once a year, which wouldn't qualify for being an active member of a community...)

Please explain what is more efficient with a forum? (to build up a single page in a browser it needs at least 10 time longer than my e-mail client, I can't read and answer offline, to name the two deal killers of a forum...)
--00151751149a7c134304653ea05b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 17:10:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB27F3BE8D; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: OT need help with old Soundblaster card Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:10:29 +0100 Message-ID: <002001c9a65a$1bb9f910$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9A662.7D7E6110" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmmWhs77SXtwDNxQ/is5iP6e6ydSg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:10:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9A662.7D7E6110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For a music project in the near future I have reanimated an ancient selfwritten DOS program. The program (running under DOS or in this case, Win98) creates midi output for the Soundblaster PCI card, I think it's this one: http://m-ware.plentymarket.de/images/produkte/6406-s26.jpg The soundcard has a midi out that uses one of these interface cables: http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/quality,85/brand,zzounds/fit,400by400/sound card_midi_male-be9f5dd1e650248a30b7b8663cd8f4f1.jpg For some reason, the program runs but speaks only to the internal midi instruments, it doesn't seem to send midi signals out of the interface cable. I can go to system control and set midi output to "SB PCI external" or something, but this doesn't seem to make any difference. I'd appreciate if someone could help me with this. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9A662.7D7E6110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

For a music project in the near future I = have=20 reanimated an ancient selfwritten DOS program.

The program (running under DOS or in this = case,=20 Win98) creates midi output for the Soundblaster PCI card, I think it's = this=20 one:
http://m-ware.plentymarket.de/images/produkte/6406-s26.jpg
The soundcard has a midi out that uses one of = these interface=20 cables:
http://cachepe.zzounds.com/media/quality,85/brand,zzounds/fit,40= 0by400/soundcard_midi_male-be9f5dd1e650248a30b7b8663cd8f4f1.jpg

For some reason, the program runs but = speaks only to=20 the internal midi instruments, it doesn't seem to send midi signals = out of=20 the interface cable. I can go to system control and set midi output to = "SB PCI=20 external" or something, but this doesn't seem to make any = difference.

I'd appreciate if someone could help me = with=20 this.

-Michael

 

------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C9A662.7D7E6110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 17:31:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06F733BE8E; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MlBbA46RLliln9vblZTf9WZE92FUm/35bR2OWZo3jq0=; b=ecsDNxCl0ac4+BZYz5LUBXgrBOYAYWt73sQr23yB4s1IS3j/0IYKbSUP3b91CoO05T 2v7s2ACT0EBXROkMBRg6ZX9nBq8WcjB1LoZurAhaSVlUzKPuDKtrYmAGSbPf81xiBj28 0c+1pBPZ1Hy1WkAhqtQ/YlXorluqWKTc/7eGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YNRmaqEDW4qGisBlJM1Yp/c7eqw0bi+RG5Ird8Z0wkXPeyrIr6Yifi4XbvoWUYbbGJ FEynweebBqYpQ+U5aNrPUxEjeI7n2Nj/3mULCA+K8qAr1FAISD8IE3nQX9IHU2cdKPwC YeRxl6cB1RIdsZyaCeIOKgi9xXRVRq71Hkpo4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903100104i737873e7lbc98cca4000a1a86@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903100104i737873e7lbc98cca4000a1a86@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:31:52 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8c01b1432086df41 Message-ID: <101191640903161031x6ad3070ai844ca436171b7c3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016361e7bdc97900604653fd332 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) --0016361e7bdc97900604653fd332 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > A cool alternative idea is to not use MIDI at all but to go for cheap > USB computer keyboards that you modify into "pedals". I have you experimented with using the keys on your keyboard to record loops? I suspect the timing won't be as tight as via MIDI. keyboard scan rates are not designed for high-precision. on a somewhat-related note, the old MOTU 828 that i use has a punch-in jack that you can put a footswitch into. i tried this, but found that it did not trigger things quickly enough to be a loop controller. -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com --0016361e7bdc97900604653fd332 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


A cool alternative idea is to not use MIDI at all but to go for cheap
USB computer keyboards that you modify into "pedals". I


have you experimented with using the keys on your keyboard= to record loops? I suspect the timing won't be as tight as via MIDI. k= eyboard scan rates are not designed for high-precision.

on a somewhat-related note, the old MOTU 828 that i use has a punch-in = jack that you can put a footswitch into. i tried this, but found that it di= d not trigger things quickly enough to be a loop controller.


--
Warren
http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679
http://www.warrensirota.com
--0016361e7bdc97900604653fd332-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 17:47:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C5743BE8C; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z3L9dtv+QxIr1C2Sc0pfTSxD5oOVmQNqpoOFI86iYiQ=; b=DOLFlTJySm1TeNVri9OyxBpkBztgZu2jE6deBGbgYS6rz9lLtpWy5tt258nh4NPHqX 1WvTjnfVPviW3KPniBoXtmjOyv70EyjjRUhrUTwbyGb16RMinSduh9bSmASAfnzpXoXA 7DzhTilD3oHjmgIriuufvW2wZ8b1J4MVDd9Rw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CtqS9IZZVU2QNk7ad9dkp55NvvqHJkK5Zz4vFePOJ8nsJlmqYGHOPaaKnXc8ZAa4sb gYHxxImnLvIPiEYhEAOkFtCe81OIsGRxOZ4RyG/Rkn1srL6bEhO/GwtuxJkZybHq4ti6 eP7ARw06pEKXa0d099nyvo9ETmzCxvOwR/s5g= Message-ID: <49BE90B8.1000805@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:47:36 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stories References: <20090303191341.E7F503BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> <66f9cc1e0903031456k777e5cedsb5f6132f000c1b2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Anders Bergdahl schrieb: > Along with Wittgenstein i believe that we are trapped in language, > music is one way to escape. This is true, because Music is not a language. But also true is: a story doesn't need a language to be told. To be honest, I never met anybody 'till now who could tell me what music is about. But I can feel it pretty clearly. There is no myth about words or stories, but music remains a myth to me. I don't know anything about music, I just do it, it just is. And there is no contradiction to the notion of story telling. Music might, or might not tell a story, if you don't tell a story, your listener might still hear and see one - or the other way round. With music there is even no need to escape anything - it might be the closest normal people can get to enlightenment, just by listening to music... And music can tell several stories at the same time. If I see a performer, I can also see a story about music making, which is not the music itself... -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 18:11:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39F873BE8B; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:11:52 -0500 Subject: RE: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads Thread-Topic: Repairing worn-out FCB1010 kick-pads Thread-Index: AcmmXRzGT7nArf2nSD24SpJJE8YctQABFUmg Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31C8D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <66f9cc1e0903080700y10bb623cpf908a41f25a6f37c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903100104i737873e7lbc98cca4000a1a86@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903161031x6ad3070ai844ca436171b7c3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <101191640903161031x6ad3070ai844ca436171b7c3@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31C8Dbarqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <-8CJkB.A.aZH.rZpvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:11:55 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31C8Dbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > have you experimented with using the keys on your keyboard to record > loops? I suspect the timing won't be as tight as via MIDI. keyboard > scan rates are not designed for high-precision. There's at least one guy on the Mobius list that does this, I remember him posting about building it but don't remember what the results were. I use keys all the time but mostly for things that aren't timing sensitive after the loop is recorded (track select, pitch/rate shift, reset= , etc.) Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31C8Dbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> have you experimented= with using=20 the keys on your keyboard to record
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There's at lea= st one guy=20 on the Mobius list that does this, I remember
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Jeff
--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA31C8Dbarqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 18:50:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4C633BE8A; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3604 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:30 UTC Message-id: <49BE914C.6090105@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:50:04 -0400 From: Dan Ash User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:50:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: Miko Biffle > Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM > > For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more > mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" > sounding. Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the > broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most > of recordings still have that narrower range and less bass, giving the > recordings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as > well. I understand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, > but still, I just don't hear it. Sorry if I'm a little late to the party, and confess that I didn't follow this thread closely - but it took a little while to process the statement that Hendrix sounded 'dated'. I realize now of course that the reference was to the sound of the recordings - his music is of course timeless. So based on the necessity of mastering for a lathe and limiting the low-end to accommodate turntables, Eddie Kramer mixed and EQ'd the bass at a level that worked for his target media. With the advent of sub-woofers and newer dance styles dominating the mainstream we evidently have a new generation that notes a lack of low end in classic rock and on the other hand also accepts the sizzle that even my tired ears finds 'earritating'. It only now occurs to me that anything more than a couple of years old might sound 'dated' to younger listeners. Excuse me while I work my back over to my rocking chair! In discussions I've had with audio engineers about the satisfying sound of Motown recordings in particular, most point to tape-based analog reproductions of drums and bass guitar as the characteristic sound of that era - so yes - those recordings did define an entire era of analog recording. Rock , soul, and almost any other pre-disco musical styles were mastered with the same sensitivity to low end content that couldn't be reproduced using a turntable or speaker systems of the day... The same observarion applies to all remastered mixes of the Hendrix material, even those made for release on CD. It would be silly to try and hype the bass to try and contemporize these tracks. I also remember discussions here and elsewhere suggesting that for several entire generations the subtle analog 'distortion' in any recording was 'familiar' and therefor preferred by audiophiles. Funny how there are psychoacoustic aspects and even cross-generational biases that inform all discussions about music reproduction. That said - the sizzle of MP3s is just LAME. I suppose I must approach the idea that a new generation of listeners will label the sonic character of my own tracks as those of a bygone era just as we might identify the sound of wax-cylinder audio reproduction from the early 1900's, and then the characteristic 'sound' of magnetic media recordings thereafter. And this doesn't even address musical styles which are only 'contemporary' for a moment in time. For the record I always discounted the meme that music itself was better 'back in the day' because I know that we'll only hear most good music these days if we actively seek it out, and yes there is much chaff to grind away before we get to the good stuff. Just rambling a bit here, but being on this list often points me to wonderfully satisfying music produced by people whose opinions and contributions are clearly a cut-above'... Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 19:29:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD5163BE7E; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:29:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+jW120QPh0vv0OHJaAVd4GsiZeeuE+JLjsWUI2nwoqE=; b=XFdwXAu+aZGGuKAkHh+UHdomVVNYmgC+YqXArBzjtjUN5DGlTXP5x2dsBrIAxxST2R e2evCPti1OqblAv3ZvDJTEI9VEiGb68RjS4J1AVoOMiMmF4JdehGbNdIrmD46NqG+ZWV r2OJSM2tn6iR4VVvwtQgSB4HbsIYZ7Th9k9iY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=OZWSAgg3Wul5PfXWstIXxQ4wDDOKnqIFw0qu+YsfW/c6yKnhl3x/YTlEY/uucpwl28 PqNc/YGtSLxaVzHRWfWHZPKRXWcQmxb2ie05EaFirDSPTTUyOD3nRp8tyFzRTDfAx7Ag MeqcGnDJMg/MhzMHWQFGiPMMfIfyg2eH0dDhU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BE914C.6090105@Verizon.net> References: <49BE914C.6090105@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:10 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903161229j2104cceclc3f5821455f20f0c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750d9400656b60465417786 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:29:11 +0000 (UTC) --00151750d9400656b60465417786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to clarity: I revere Hendrix and am clearly descended from his lineage= . I owe a huge debt of gratitude to his (and Eddie Kramer's) godly contributions to the modern vernacular, both conceptually and electronically. 8-) Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for the day)=97I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch Mitchell OTO= H ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m On 3/16/09, Dan Ash wrote: > > From: Miko Biffle >> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM >> >> For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more >> mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding. >> Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal >> spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings st= ill >> have that narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated so= und. >> MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basic= s of >> high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it. > > Sorry if I'm a little late to the party, and confess that I didn't follow > this thread closely - but it took a little while to process the statement > that Hendrix sounded 'dated'. I realize now of course that the referenc= e > was to the sound of the recordings - his music is of course timeless. So > based on the necessity of mastering for a lathe and limiting the low-end = to > accommodate turntables, Eddie Kramer mixed and EQ'd the bass at a level t= hat > worked for his target media. With the advent of sub-woofers and newer da= nce > styles dominating the mainstream we evidently have a new generation that > notes a lack of low end in classic rock and on the other hand also accept= s > the sizzle that even my tired ears finds 'earritating'. It only now occu= rs > to me that anything more than a couple of years old might sound 'dated' t= o > younger listeners. > Excuse me while I work my back over to my rocking chair! > > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --00151750d9400656b60465417786 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just to clarity: I revere Hendrix and am clearly descended from his lineage. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to his (and Eddie Kramer's) godly contributions to the modern vernacular, both conceptually and electronically.=A0 8-)

Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically?=A0 I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for the day)=97I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. M= itch Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book!=A0 -m

On 3/16/09, Dan= Ash <Daniel.Ash@verizon.n= et> wrote:
From: Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com<= /a>>
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM

For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding. =A0Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have that narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it.

Sorry if I'm a little late to the party, and confess that I didn't follow this thread closely - but it took a little while to process the statement that Hendrix sounded 'dated'. =A0 I realize now of course that the reference was to the sound of the recordings - his music is of course timeless. So based on the necessity of mastering for a lathe and lim= iting the low-end to accommodate turntables, Eddie Kramer mixed and EQ'd the bass at a level that worked for his target media. =A0With the advent of sub-woofers and newer dance styles dominating the mainstream we evidently have a new generation that notes a lack of low end in classic rock and on the other hand also accepts the sizzle that even my tired ears finds 'earritating'. =A0It only now occurs to me that anything more than a couple of years old might sound 'dated' to younger listeners.
Excuse me while I work my back over to my rocking chair!

--
Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
"Running = scared from all the usual distractions!" --00151750d9400656b60465417786-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 19:55:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB9A93BE81; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237233301; bh=Demi4nU+Bxdnjfy12GZ7EIM/shIR07lO74U1DG/QaF8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CSPLjR45rgVPeOzuxOulSLTmmHqpgSaMw7AUz376orepuUe5/F8aMdkoivraTV4PY1dN8N94xMxeQUkgw39PW73OWq+yRbfZuzoaH3s3CrIOxYxvjjdHkDIcHwTrd2sdcKq2GbJ0lauVeroaP0tFJAynQ4bum5JTY8UmSoiE7TU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WipnpiJFvrNPngrKIpKAK3IB7CNVrFlvg1KIEvH5qe1ivleo+rBb2+/m0oRIERPyy0Tb/e+jYrMhyZd4BFLyWgIqUWSRzHeYEQWCsAt5IVnwuofWF3WtcHjGD5NjSgpPX5eNpEb5QJyx7l0KjitJB3lZUcEw13RWLLaomOgzchw=; Message-ID: <836996.8589.qm@web110211.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KSm4I5IVM1ns3_BXjVTTLC.SCuC5c1MxMVnoq6Fn_7FJGytqAhVYb1RinCvs2R0mb4VIgc1guPc4VYyyhMqbnYnGolXq8qAe1XWl7Wj.Lct.I8LNdQvOcDmVSnExPXxn6M2qiKmJOQu2cUVzZLKQnoQBV7WZEHOMZvOyeClmuUxAa4XcGq61mUweVlSpmKtXIhf_zAvQRIr1hDx8sdqEL8tbvhfASN.MYx1qzJwDP8swg6FAZHjLD1tlGYydF73jVWeidKOI4hxIPPulEhPwBF71TQd.It0KDgvEv3Lz8.sw1oLch1FL X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:55:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1427676414-1237233301=:8589" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:55:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-1427676414-1237233301=:8589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (It only now occurs to me that anything more than a couple of years old mig= ht sound 'dated' to younger listeners. ) =C2=A0 Any anything with that Whhuuuummmmmmmmmm bass sound emanating from their ve= hicle sounds irritating as shit to me personally! :) --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Miko Biffle wrote: From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 3:29 PM Just to clarity: I revere Hendrix and am clearly descended from his lineage= . I owe a huge debt of gratitude to his (and Eddie Kramer's) godly contribu= tions to the modern vernacular, both conceptually and electronically.=C2=A0= 8-) Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically?=C2=A0 I can listen to Zep,= Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for the da= y)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch Mitchell= OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book!=C2=A0 -m On 3/16/09, Dan Ash wrote: From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were more mid-r= angey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" sounding. =C2=A0C= ompression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectr= um of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have = that narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3= 's of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the basics of h= igh end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear it. Sorry if I'm a little late to the party, and confess that I didn't follow t= his thread closely - but it took a little while to process the statement th= at Hendrix sounded 'dated'. =C2=A0 I realize now of course that the referen= ce was to the sound of the recordings - his music is of course timeless. So= based on the necessity of mastering for a lathe and limiting the low-end t= o accommodate turntables, Eddie Kramer mixed and EQ'd the bass at a level t= hat worked for his target media. =C2=A0With the advent of sub-woofers and n= ewer dance styles dominating the mainstream we evidently have a new generat= ion that notes a lack of low end in classic rock and on the other hand also= accepts the sizzle that even my tired ears finds 'earritating'. =C2=A0It o= nly now occurs to me that anything more than a couple of years old might so= und 'dated' to younger listeners.=20 Excuse me while I work my back over to my rocking chair! --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" =0A=0A=0A --0-1427676414-1237233301=:8589 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(It only now occurs to me that anything = more than a couple of years old might sound 'dated' to younger listeners. )=
 
Any anything with that Whhuuuummmmmmmmmm bass sound emanating from the= ir vehicle sounds irritating as shit to me personally! :)


--- On= Mon, 3/16/09, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>
Sub= ject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 3:29 PM

Just to clarity: I revere Hendrix and am clearly des= cended from his lineage. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to his (and Eddie K= ramer's) godly contributions to the modern vernacular, both conceptually an= d electronically.  8-)

Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding speci= fically?  I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on vinyl and fe= el the bass is adequate (for the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's b= ass that satisfying. Mitch Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham i= n my book!  -m

On 3/16/09, Dan = Ash <Daniel.Ash@verizon.net> wrote:
From: Miko Biffle <= biffoz= @gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Da= te: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM

For the most part, vinyl maste= ring and production esthetics were more mid-rangey and compared to modern p= roduction a little "honkey" sounding.  Compression and volume maximiza= tion aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I lov= e Hendrix, but most of recordings still have that narrower range and less b= ass, giving the recordings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as well= . I understand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, but still= , I just don't hear it.

Sorry if I'm a little = late to the party, and confess that I didn't follow this thread closely - b= ut it took a little while to process the statement that Hendrix sounded 'da= ted'.   I realize now of course that the reference was to the sound of= the recordings - his music is of course timeless. So based on the necessit= y of mastering for a lathe and limiting the low-end to accommodate turntabl= es, Eddie Kramer mixed and EQ'd the bass at a level that worked for his tar= get media.  With the advent of sub-woofers and newer dance styles domi= nating the mainstream we evidently have a new generation that notes a lack = of low end in classic rock and on the other hand also accepts the sizzle th= at even my tired ears finds 'earritating'.  It only now occurs to me t= hat anything more than a couple of years old might sound 'dated' to younger listeners.
Excuse me while I work my back over to my rocking c= hair!

--
Miko Biffle<= BR>Biffoz@Gmail.com
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!"

=0A=0A --0-1427676414-1237233301=:8589-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 20:06:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E32F3BE89; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <315529c9481b255b804d385da32421cc.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FS: Coolass Vintage + Stuff (pedals, keytar, Tape Echo, Tube Reverb, etc) From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:06:35 +0000 (UTC) I'm selling a few things from the studio to make more breathing room for the hundreds of other things in the studio :) All are in great shape and I made a web page with details and pictures of everything here: http://helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm Summary: 1. 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All items tested and verified and described appropriately but due to the nature of the analog/quirky sold as is. I have about 15 years of references on and offline and will gladly share them if you want. Send phone # to speed things up. Trades possible for modcan format synth modules unusual pedals, processors, weird synths, Jrums, controllers, etc. Give me a shout and we'll go from there. I believe prices are fair but if you believe otherwise feel free to make a reasonable offer. Any question? Email me. Thanks for looking. -- ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 20:06:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DABF3BE95; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <72f6be26e69a9928f6121f9ca7d16af1.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FS: Coolass Vintage + Stuff (pedals, keytar, Tape Echo, Tube Reverb, etc) From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Loopers Delight" , "AH" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:06:36 +0000 (UTC) I'm selling a few things from the studio to make more breathing room for the hundreds of other things in the studio :) All are in great shape and I made a web page with details and pictures of everything here: http://helpwantedproductions.com/Salez/FS.htm Summary: 1. Acetone AC-1 Vintage Tape Delay - $350. This is more in line with the Echoplex as it has a lever at the top that you slide to change the delay speed to to all sorts of spacey sounds. Unit is super clean, new tape installed, and fully tested. Everything is in order but one of the echo buttons (there are four) doesn't seem to do much. This could be it's original function (these things are very oddly designed). The heads and buttons etc are in good shape. Very cool unique delays and awesome slapback with this mutha. video demo HERE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2b7fhDUB3U&feature=channel_page 2. Danelectro Tube Spring Reverb Unit - $325. Vintage Dan Electro Spring Reverb unit. 100% working and in Very good shape. This is a Tube preamp/Spring Reverb unit that you plug into the front end of your amp. Capable of *super* spacey sounds with the mix set on full and a very nice clean *ptwaaang* on lower settings. Two inputs, 1/4" for external foot switch, etc. 3. Yamaha SHS-10 Midi Keytar with pitch bend and built in cha-cha - $300 Strap on keytar with typical Casio 80s sounds and patterns. Strap Locks w/ Midi Pitch bend plus program change an Midi Out. Runs on batteries and looks cool as hell. This one is in excellent condition with original box and packaging. 4. Boutique Mellowtone Wolf Computer - Fuzz/Distortion/Freakbox Pedal - $120. Links from my page. offical description: "Crunchy triple silicon fuzz. Endless tones-from traditional fuzz tones, overdrive, and distortion, to dying Atari, synthy textures, and oscillating motorboating!" 5. Boutique DAED Disturbo DS-1 Filter/Synth-Fuzz/Distortion - $95 (mention mailing list offer). Modified Boss DS-1 pedal given new life and transformed into a processing machine. Self oscillating Theremin plus two OUT there filter settings. Now with Superbright Orange 5mm LED. Full info: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/daed/4sale.htm (NOTE: Will modify your supplied Boss DS-1 for $40, email for details). 6. DAED ChaOsc Buzz Box - $85 (Sale Price) One of One single Oscillator Buzz box with multiple waveforms, Tremelo and modulation touch points, volume, pitch, and 1/8" out. Runs on 9vt battery and does everything from low cricket clicks to high tone theremin and pitch dive bombs. Sweet. 7. DAED Bass Theremin $85 (SALE Price!) Cool ass pocket theremin with extra low frequency range to make radio static and click noises as well as typical theremin whoops and hollas. Pitch controlled by light sensitive photo resistor with internal speaker (switchable on/off) and 1/8" out. Hand painted and 1 of 1. TERMS: All items located in Phila Pa and cash pickup preferred (will also get you better deals).Will ship anywhere in the world as well (buyer pays shipping). Paypal from authenticated accounts (Buyer pays fees) or USPS MO. All items tested and verified and described appropriately but due to the nature of the analog/quirky sold as is. I have about 15 years of references on and offline and will gladly share them if you want. Send phone # to speed things up. Trades possible for modcan format synth modules unusual pedals, processors, weird synths, Jrums, controllers, etc. Give me a shout and we'll go from there. I believe prices are fair but if you believe otherwise feel free to make a reasonable offer. Any question? Email me. Thanks for looking. -- ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 20:33:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC7A13BE8A; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:33:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237235594; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=TYAoabzCUyxmcstP99LLbQuLUZQ=; b=Wzg/I3h4H9Wkbn8267ccjUvhNcX6tERrKCw3bvcGa7jkNtVJgDNjzWX+Vd9mTmW/ yEXb6SfUf8gOaOqfChzuOhpYa5y0zMT29S7rhzMATIwwFtr4KsFRmAuCCJCUQt4J; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=eBepecbKascbD0PGYqoA:9 a=Hs0aBdm1MSZ9fFInBOIA:7 a=MqPrA9_jLzXhJlpTwrJizrW3k4MA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zmfkaYz1XuKQ0fak8vUA:9 a=8oB8Eb_O-NRNHoIQSR0A:7 a=z18WF2KJ6dPODZa0oGbUF1dzyGUA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001801c9a676$775e99d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <49BE914C.6090105@Verizon.net> <3fa302e30903161229j2104cceclc3f5821455f20f0c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:33:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C9A654.EEA36880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:33:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C9A654.EEA36880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think Redding was a guitar player before he got "drafted" to play bass = with Hendrix. yes?=20 Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Miko Biffle=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Just to clarity: I revere Hendrix and am clearly descended from his = lineage. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to his (and Eddie Kramer's) = godly contributions to the modern vernacular, both conceptually and = electronically. 8-) Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, = Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for the = day)=97I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch Mitchell = OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m On 3/16/09, Dan Ash wrote: From: Miko Biffle Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM For the most part, vinyl mastering and production esthetics were = more mid-rangey and compared to modern production a little "honkey" = sounding. Compression and volume maximization aside, I prefer the = broader tonal spectrum of modern recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of = recordings still have that narrower range and less bass, giving the = recordings a dated sound. MP3's of the same recordings sound dated as = well. I understand the basics of high end interpolation and sampling, = but still, I just don't hear it. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C9A654.EEA36880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think Redding was a guitar player = before he got=20 "drafted" to play bass with Hendrix. yes?
 
Jeff
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Miko = Biffle=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 = 3:29=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle = sound' of=20 Mp3s

Just to clarity: I revere Hendrix and am clearly = descended from=20 his lineage. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to his (and Eddie = Kramer's) godly=20 contributions to the modern vernacular, both conceptually and=20 electronically.  8-)

Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding=20 specifically?  I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on = vinyl and=20 feel the bass is adequate (for the day)=97I just don't find Redding's = bass that=20 satisfying. Mitch Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my = book!  -m

On 3/16/09, Dan Ash=20 <Daniel.Ash@verizon.net>=20 wrote:
From:=20 Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT That = 'sizzle=20 sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: = Thursday,=20 March 12, 2009, 3:28 PM

For the most part, vinyl mastering = and=20 production esthetics were more mid-rangey and compared to modern=20 production a little "honkey" sounding.  Compression and = volume=20 maximization aside, I prefer the broader tonal spectrum of modern=20 recordings. I love Hendrix, but most of recordings still have that = narrower range and less bass, giving the recordings a dated sound. = MP3's=20 of the same recordings sound dated as well. I understand the = basics of=20 high end interpolation and sampling, but still, I just don't hear=20 it.

------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C9A654.EEA36880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 21:19:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE21F3BE8C; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:19:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: please be courteous to the list Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:18:53 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c9a67c$d018c6d0$050313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcmmTG1nZyfDvyJVSxyM6Q6sSlxZTwAI6lkg In-Reply-To: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:19:12 +0000 (UTC) > Stefan Tiedje wrote: > It would loose me, because a forum is 1000 times less > efficient than a > list. I still look for evidence that there is any advantage > of a forum > over a list and didn't find any. (Unless I lurk once a year, which > wouldn't qualify for being an active member of a community...) I'm referring to a modern good looking forum with searchable archives, threaded discussion, rich formatting with syntax highlighting, customazations (avatars, links, footers), market place, looper hard-and software wiki, polls, access control, email notifications, rss, private messaging, subscribe to certain threads etc Both have their pro's and cons. It also depends on the email client and the software the forum is build with. So I'm not saying a mailinglist is bad. Mailing lists work fine for small communities, but forums work better for big communities and I think Loopers-Delight is big enough for a forum. Loopers-Delight could benefit from that, develop itself and grow; that's what I would like to see happening with this community. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 21:27:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48B9F3BE89; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bsDPt5IZy8EDH7PhvTNGWf5vdUdTu//qSdkCESA9dgM=; b=mSyij+pEMhGplW6nhaqLxNFP6gvZRa2XboxeRETRNfARqqo7eWR5PhfS9f9iiUfU25 iTQ1UuplDKUI5v9nRgA0yMEprjjlaW9LKq1flD86LBYt8Q2n1PwU9FT/E1Q/1bITPG5o vCvJP0mbcvLYJJCGhwvANBO6T0HStOAe9ddgw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=fWZVCj8C8cRLDGZDPynG73Ox13qBmMW+TV1FlQVucImFBtkZQDCHN6puZjSbm1v2ex LY0748aIDwnUx8CSQld64jy4B3W0CtWMxUKAhwW6MDElu92lFpPsHlK3ZXMpZSpq+OZ/ cGRifF6GjS+MzOAODMhB9DFIQZqF4w4IfSyK0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001801c9a676$775e99d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <49BE914C.6090105@Verizon.net> <3fa302e30903161229j2104cceclc3f5821455f20f0c@mail.gmail.com> <001801c9a676$775e99d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:27:44 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903161427u3e1eed32ub5ee20289a675679@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750da660679e20465431f6b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:27:45 +0000 (UTC) --00151750da660679e20465431f6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He was, but my ears hear what they hear. Sorry Noel . . . -m On 3/16/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > > I think Redding was a guitar player before he got "drafted" to play bass > with Hendrix. yes? > > Jeff > --00151750da660679e20465431f6b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He was, but my ears hear what they hear. Sorry Noel . . . -m

--00151750da660679e20465431f6b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 21:31:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD3BB3BE8E; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3wy3zPoqtwIK+qyc0TiueTskKg4Npjmw8We+EcvlUnM=; b=CK7H2acAGEqIg8F3cKz/WbRD+EPLIDaGIO5mshRmYpYLAAT3j7R1ILnjAlVNjZLYHS uxvxBXcrq0M75Cai+s3/u74zcR1owP/A4Lf4wTZCezuV9VGeDL6DVBPATDuAXi1Vuf1Q HwmoCAAHAP2HeGjYUm9WrlKyNi2JE5Q9ExJyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=FCdElOY4A7XtAXyQ6XuaIXoyrsa0tTgt7z4QzWDUeNuk8X6Iof8KSNaSssxKSCAf1+ cqeFtO15qpSSOeIe09DH1KmIMzuaKR0wrRaYdbGYV0XH3LjmTqkOjK2P46JLB+/xMIzB DkJDYfOynvsbtV74p4K2C19AIPSUa8ZuX2ehE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> References: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:31:00 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903161431h2f6351b1jfae051135c69b6bf@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:31:01 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Sjaak schrieb: >> >> Imo, using email is no longer the most efficient method for a >> community like this. I am of the opposite opinion, because for me "efficiency" means "time needed for communicating". That's why I love the Gmail interface, it's so fast! But forums are nice for those who have the extra time. For beginners it would be nice with a forum because people can post pictures and upload tutorials to help each other etc. A good way of handling it would be to have both a forum and a mailing list and set it up in a way that all mails are duplicated and sent out to the list and all list mails are duplicated as forum posts, thread equaling subject line. Myself I would mostly stick with the mailing list, though. And... LOL, thinking about the tendency on this list to instantly wander off into Off-Topic discussions... man, the forum would be very, very hard to navigate! ;-)) I just found out today that I can read forums in my RSS reader instead of logging in there, so I'm doing that now (using NetNewsWire here). For posting you would need to open a forum page though. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 21:47:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DC7C3BE8A; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237240044; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=+Fo6DXV2NjrRD1othDHlgguaLkc=; b=NX1ffM+0dnosBwhulva7+SFrO2capygZJa6vByNdE6cPv+SAl9ewA/OD0cupPR3p LZrfWaDo6K5GbtaHi5RzzVFVMnTamtRfqAB55j6FLM1VEC5GOovhgUM0UfNU+6wS; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=H-OalMmd_7dA_wTU8i8A:9 a=iTDrdt3LZYRQiDT7Afo9VLnkP7IA:4 a=55zalpP9CjoA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=yBz0uWX-xBMsAosXf1EA:9 a=SA5BPNO6LUyhqH-LjaMA:7 a=saY6nUBAZ-Szmscp3v6IoATmbnAA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001701c9a680$da7c8c70$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <49BE914C.6090105@Verizon.net> <3fa302e30903161229j2104cceclc3f5821455f20f0c@mail.gmail.com> <001801c9a676$775e99d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <3fa302e30903161427u3e1eed32ub5ee20289a675679@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:47:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C9A65F.519B3580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:47:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C9A65F.519B3580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable oh I agree..:>) >Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, = Sabbath and many others on >vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for the = day)-I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch >Mitchell = OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Miko Biffle=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:27 PM Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s He was, but my ears hear what they hear. Sorry Noel . . . -m On 3/16/09, Jeff Duke wrote: I think Redding was a guitar player before he got "drafted" to play = bass with Hendrix. yes?=20 Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C9A65F.519B3580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
oh I agree..:>)
 
>Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically?  I can = listen to=20 Zep, Sabbath and many others on >vinyl and feel the bass is adequate = (for the=20 day)=97I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch = >Mitchell OTOH=20 ranks right up there with Bonham in my book!  -m
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Miko = Biffle=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 = 5:27=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle = sound' of=20 Mp3s

He was, but my ears hear what they hear. Sorry Noel . . = .=20 -m

On 3/16/09, Jeff=20 Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
I think Redding was a guitar player = before he=20 got "drafted" to play bass with Hendrix. yes?
 
Jeff
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C9A65F.519B3580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 22:25:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668F03BE80; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4WRcdFKLxTbGVf+X68AZMVH6IsSJqu/M0BbUxpWXnQI=; b=TTM/V01DEkGoqyA1/oggZHGyW3wNiHQxR4X1oXEzcn8He4CWaNJV4RVCb8K48Fw//1 hI1eBYzqJ/DsLuod6c8InxtLKhtzwxAqZgSu+zAgxh3173MbX9qGZD9HR/IxKA+fPGhl 9TT4FpkjoiGM86HXlaAGumAyjF6TRMDLXATdw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LCykb6EwjSeBpgblXTYHVyWdtmcNM0J2vNBOtj3PbwdmGvqogxbwlIEBzN3/LseJ6q EOGFEn5BfguXT94m/eHHtN/YNn1WLSX48oHG59dEN7U5N8VxpHBw6TYyDy94hM/iD2rp duyzqi4SIDl30tFyecU8CIXEGiwEZMmv4/WUY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903161431h2f6351b1jfae051135c69b6bf@mail.gmail.com> References: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903161431h2f6351b1jfae051135c69b6bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:25:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22960110ade046543efe5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:25:56 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd22960110ade046543efe5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The suggestion of switching to a forum seems to come up twice a year for years now. Some people have even done so, but people vote with their feet, so to speak. Running those forums costs time and money, and no-one's stepped forward to foot the bills for that. And my experience with forums is that the active community size is always about the same as with a mailing list--a couple dozen people account for 90% of the posts. There will never be a thriving LD forum until the LD mailing list is turned off by the owner. TH > > --000e0cd22960110ade046543efe5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The suggestion of switching to a forum seems to come up twice a year for ye= ars now. =A0
Some people have even done so, but people vote with their = feet, so to speak. =A0Running those forums costs time and money, and no-one= 's stepped forward to foot the bills for that. =A0And my experience wit= h forums is that the active community size is always about the same as with= a mailing list--a couple dozen people account for 90% of the posts.

There will never be a thriving LD forum until the LD mailing= list is turned off by the owner.

TH


--000e0cd22960110ade046543efe5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 22:29:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FA8D3BE84; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FN7LJJwP0/qYizfK6Pa2BdteTLwzKPDLe55G+bltrrY=; b=p5Pp/OQN3SWZwue3gutblEaxPzkBp/XzfAI9JoL4PL6qeZewD0AMuI3MxiGBOJxarv qc2blzKol9V16Uu4xjFoA2h7GwvBDpSDxuhYEmwI2Panrh9IekN/1reSGZ4TIceYdmSI XsaEHoU6eAtyVqPpSPohJjCoZ/IQsqtzQtmco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=xLlIY3+ofw+RvpBv1BQFx8ru97Uv2m058Ba7fxB9fVuLkNs1aJB1dBbqwnXJYYDhdX 1A1dwfE35A5Rqs5o6MHOrl4VOJCAMFKsIlALf5kVIB74bCS0Ktv1j/d22WeYPNwc3RvO cGrohGyCbeOeKwLypeUTtfYxdB7z7hBtOZUTE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> References: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:29:41 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903161529m6a7197adk1240872bd08a8f39@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: please be courteous to the list From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd157189859a1046543fce8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:29:42 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd157189859a1046543fce8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > It would loose me, because a forum is 1000 times less efficient than a > list. I still look for evidence that there is any advantage of a forum ov= er > a list and didn't find any. (Unless I lurk once a year, which wouldn't > qualify for being an active member of a community...) Organization. Different topics into different groups. Auto searches don't always work, and this can help when one must search manually. And yes, does take longer to load et al... Just a matter of personal preference really. Myself, I prefer lists. -nn happyhumans.org > > Please explain what is more efficient with a forum? (to build up a single > page in a browser it needs at least 10 time longer than my e-mail client,= I > can't read and answer offline, to name the two deal killers of a forum...= ) > > A FUDforum would actually allow both together, but there seem to be > difficulties to set it up easily/properly... > > my 2 cents ;) > > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > > --000e0cd157189859a1046543fce8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It would loose me, because a forum is 1000 times less efficie= nt than a list. I still look for evidence that there is any advantage of a = forum over a list and didn't find any. (Unless I lurk once a year, whic= h wouldn't qualify for being an active member of a community...)

Organization.=A0 Different topics into different groups.=A0 Auto s= earches don't always work, and this can help when one must search manua= lly.

And yes, does take longer to load et al...

Just a matte= r of personal preference really.

Myself, I prefer lists.

-nn
happyhumans.org



Please explain what is more efficient with a forum? (to build up a single p= age in a browser it needs at least 10 time longer than my e-mail client, I = can't read and answer offline, to name the two deal killers of a forum.= ..)

A FUDforum would actually allow both together, but there seem to be difficu= lties to set it up easily/properly...

my 2 cents ;)

Stefan

--
Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x--
--_____-----------|-----------|--
--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
-- _|_)----|-----()--------------
----------()----------TJ Shredder


--000e0cd157189859a1046543fce8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 22:33:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EF653BE8A; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:33:07 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2lFFrC.A.fYC.oOtvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Okay, we are nearing a good list, here.
It would be great if someone would complete this list with prices
from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say this because prices obviously
very greatly from the US to the UK alone)

I purposefully didn't included pedals that are no longer in production
(but we could with their salient going prices-anyone feel like doing that research?)
but I did include used laptop, reel to reel and cassette solutions.

What are we missing anything?

SHORT LIST of CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS for the NEWBIE LOOPER

In the United States

Audible Disease JUNK FI SAMPLER JF-1   $90  (runs on batteries)
                                  (note: this looper will not pass original sound through as you loop
                                  and adds a small bit of silence to a continous loop meaning
                                  that it is useless as a rhythmic looper.   It does, however
                                 have pitch control of the loops over a wide range unlike any other
                                 cheap pedal and it has very low sample rate so it is very trashy sounding (on purpose)
BOSS DD-7        $160   +   $20  (PSA 120 - AC)   
                               (note:   a digital delay that is not a dedicated looper but will loop)
RC-2     $180 +  $20 (PSA 120-AC)
AKAI HEADRUSH   $200  +  $20  (MP9-3  AC)
LINE 6 DL4       $250  ac included
RC-20XL            $260  +  $20 (PSA 120-AC)

PC Laptop running Mobius or other free looping software
                                     -  anywhere from free if one is resourceful and/or lucky to around $700 for a system
                               that is ready to go with Midi footpedals, and a decent sound card without latency
                               (in other words,  a live looping solution that you can take out of the box and play
                                immediately like the other stomp boxes on the list ----- 
                                (note: this solution requires a fair degree of computer knowledge to set up
                               with access to the Loopers Delight archives to figure out how to use the keyboard as a
                               hand controller.   This is a viable solution if one can find a free or very cheap laptop
                               but precludes foot pedal control and adds latency and noise from a cheap internal
                               sound card.      To badly paraphrase Rainer Straschill, however,  if you are resourceful
                               and knowledgeable,  where there is a will, there is a way.
SMM & Hazari     I googled around but could not find this brand and I'm not familiar with it.
                                Perhaps it is not available in the US or am I missing something?
Two REEL TO REEL TAPE DECKS   What every you can purchase them for plus the cost of tape and splicing gear
                                 (note:  not appropriate for any kind of rhythmic looping or accurate overdubbing in
                                    a live setting.    Great for ambient or experimental looping live but time consuming
                                    to play more than one piece of music at a live show)
Old Cassette recorders      Whatever you can purchase them for plus the cost of tape and splicing gear
                                 (same note applies from REEL to REEL solution)

In the UK

RC-2  £90 + psu
SMM & Hazari £145
DD-7 £120 + psu
RC-20XL £140 (maybe £125) + psu
Headrush £140 +psu (maybe £120)(it's gone up! used to be <100)
DL4 £240 (maybe £200)
PC Laptop running Mobius or other free looping software
                           (see notes above in the US price list)
2 REEL to REEL TAPE DECKS
CASSETTE RECORDER with endless CASSETTE TAPES (purchased or created)

                     
                          


From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 22:38:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 280A13BE8C; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:38:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JqnuMidyoZj8PmypL+ewEMioUZD6MuYGkU8Ihkjwdsk=; b=s4zvh6zCq3qA+Y0ch4QK/bn4d7qQgHx4+SS8cfYoBfKGEihOMdtGGlV6IhVv4Qgz8Z A7IowD9w8wn1mKrdebYVa4YKx3OpKKYBOVhjuFP4hvEQgvoXWKIsqzlaE+mNEqMg+8Rn d2arX1ycJyheN+RDsFRMaN9hyS8oJigH98SR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=NGVg0X7tfX7yPG+QbY+wJ8eBTX5gE64sNrX8WmbZMLlBix5C4y15QiiVtk6QjgEH/X Un+fzRuqQcwxaU+5goLDbKXlTdvxHJQ7QMbg+zr3u3B0pIk0kSChFEZdhcN+dM7hxH0V bZLKnlHnLgvJJCdy6Odng0mDlCJm0poG7ore0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:38:16 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 444acfbedd0e7e2b Message-ID: <37f071c00903161538i32b11469u8dbae9b0121dbef4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:38:17 +0000 (UTC) You're missing the Boss DD20 which is also more delay than looper but has sound on sound and 23 seconds of delay with feedback control. $219 in the US. Kevin On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Okay, we are nearing a good list, here. > It would be great if someone would complete this list with prices > from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say this because prices obviously > very greatly from the US to the UK alone) > > I purposefully didn't included pedals that are no longer in production > (but we could with their salient going prices-anyone feel like doing that > research?) > but I did include used laptop, reel to reel and cassette solutions. > > What are we missing anything? -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 22:45:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 375B23BE90; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237243510; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=DkmOPHEf9v+lMYceaPl/wfC2Wtw=; b=SUzhmBx+KBMMfSLbLc4LjFaK0fSkcW311iHhIU3rkTbI1jb7lRPgPocXWD/tVb6p h0czLdTD1tesKapxDVJ0Ayo9HfO01pIfgoFpqoPgaG+QR9SO8OJEpsJG9YEHXsdr; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=aMdUqFOngFAA:10 a=tc2Ejl195nQA:10 a=xBBY21LMAAAA:8 a=QxTBy-tfGcnIoMEOvGEA:9 a=4lih54GYhctvxrcGpnGpYTavePEA:4 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 a=DhT07JJXlyAhiccfAVIA:9 a=ufekty9za_3MEUsMN4EA:7 a=LIxawsoQpgi0rZSDzvHxKB6wqJoA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001301c9a688$dbf52910$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:45:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A667.543F0BB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:45:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A667.543F0BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.zzounds.com/item--ELHSTRMEMMANHAZ j SMM & Hazari I googled around but could not find this brand and = I'm not familiar with it. 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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C9A667.543F0BB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 22:45:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D4E73BE91; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:45:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+jj1IRMSzElefTyk1y67J/T15Ch5qD+DrzumaVS2cFk=; b=HLrSvVkdM6tO89RURpjvBDvBfYJg/Hw4mkWY7HiuYL1X7NVyvordNbrF46fBH/4f6c XbfsDCcgU4b7M0QFGU7n3tPQ12Bb2phCPUkuI91cnEFEL4bBVl+Ckx5pfUA7NytGTBOs rkbkL0eezddWW/PCXptwIwvcIOj7eE3/cVbog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bWqDCJkBkB+RmkoQJPL7434qaR9Tpsz7EmqD+dN+8eG4mwaky6ECbikqh4j4bHP3Qd 8Q8SeokklXiNoxB9b0iOd1gwDhBhuNhuIqza9Cx0f0X05JiXkujtgm72f35SAjAkjqHU 0Tt74spAM3MSpcQv1oNuU4m51dwG0Vwnth8Uw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <683756.33009.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090312145605.EL1P0.1169516.root@mp06> <3fa302e30903121228l1272673fgff05e299b31d14cf@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903121307n670a978emecbd582e8f1a1678@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:45:49 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903161545h58251f1fsbd82b17472f2a287@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd17d6a4881790465443618 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:45:51 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd17d6a4881790465443618 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems to me when there were less options (ie number of bands/musicians/djs/music makers/whatev) it was harder to find stuff that really suited YOU... so when you found that stuff you really focused on it, and enjoyed liner notes/photos/etc. Personally, I never really cared for all that very much (although slightly, and I seem to be a median age on here, at 30). Nowadays though, with everyone and their mom making music and saying "listen listen listen" I certainly don't get to hear all the music that I could enjoy, and I certainly don't have the time to geek out on the lives/history/photos/liner notes of yet another musician I enjoy. So, in a way, it's more about the music. Which, due to what has brought it to that, seems to carry both good and bad, as with anything (or any facet of progress). -nn happyhumans.org On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ian Petersen wrote: > Mark, > >> I WANT that sleeve, being carefull with it, putting it on, waiting, and >> listening with a big cup of tea/beer/spliff (tick relaxant of choice >> > > I used to think I did, too. But I have to admit I've changed my mind on > that score. The ease and flexibility - not to mention availability - of MP3s > and similar is just too enticing. It helps that here in Denmark, the largest > phone/net company (TDC) offer free music downloads with their phone and net > accounts (admittedly it's DRM infested WMVs, but there are ways around > that), so having access to 4 million plus songs for free and legally gives > one a rather different perspective. I haven't bought a CD in over a year > (from buying 10-15 per month). Coupled with an eMusic account and various > freebie sites, my musical appetite is well and truly filled. > > As to sound quality, I have an Apple-TV coupled to my serious mid-fi stereo > system. Yes, I can hear a difference to the CD. But I certainly could't say > which is 'better'. I'm over 40, so I can't hear much over 12 kHz anyway ... > IMO, anyone who claims to be able to hear any meaningful quality difference > between 192+ kbps MP3 and CD (through decent hardware) is either deluded or > lying. > > >> I must be honest, that since I downloaded EVERY Beatles album, I havent >> listened to them, since I downloaded EVERY Aphex twin Album I havent >> listened to him... and since I downloaded 80 albums by Merzbow, I certainly >> havent listened to HIM!!! >> > > BTDT. I've listened to them all. Several times. Still can't see what all > the fuss is about with those Beatle chaps though .... > > >> The guys in my office, listen on iPod.. OK fair enough, I cant do that... >> and for that the mp3/iTunes combo os fine.. EVERYTHING is available, but you >> load yer device.. theres yer choice.. >> > > An iPod is a godsend if you have 2+ hours train commute every day ... More > or less useless for anything else. > > >> Has anyone, every been to town, bought an album on mp3, sat on the >> trainunpacking it/ reading every word on the cover/ reading the lyrics, got >> home, went to room, put on record, laid on bed, played it loud... then >> played it AGAIN!!! >> > > Apart from the going to town bit, in effect, yes! > > Ian > > --000e0cd17d6a4881790465443618 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems to me when there were less options (ie number of bands/musicians/djs/= music makers/whatev) it was harder to find stuff that really suited YOU... = so when you found that stuff you really focused on it, and enjoyed liner no= tes/photos/etc.=A0 Personally, I never really cared for all that very much = (although slightly, and I seem to be a median age on here, at 30).

Nowadays though, with everyone and their mom making music and saying &q= uot;listen listen listen" I certainly don't get to hear all the mu= sic that I could enjoy, and I certainly don't have the time to geek out= on the lives/history/photos/liner notes of yet another musician I enjoy.= =A0

So, in a way, it's more about the music.=A0 Which, due to what has = brought it to that, seems to carry both good and bad, as with anything (or = any facet of progress).

-nn
ha= ppyhumans.org

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ian Peters= en <iep@mail.dk>= wrote:
Mark,

I WANT that sleeve, being careful= l with it, putting it on, waiting, and listening with a big cup of tea/beer= /spliff (tick relaxant of choice

I used to think I did, too. But I have to admit= I've changed my mind on that score. The ease and flexibility - not to = mention availability - of MP3s and similar is just too enticing. It helps t= hat here in Denmark, the largest phone/net company (TDC) offer free music d= ownloads with their phone and net accounts (admittedly it's DRM infeste= d WMVs, but there are ways around that), so having access to 4 million plus= songs for free and legally gives one a rather different perspective. I hav= en't bought a CD in over a year (from buying 10-15 per month). Coupled = with an eMusic account and various freebie sites, my musical appetite is we= ll and truly filled.

As to sound quality, I have an Apple-TV coupled to my serious mid-fi st= ereo system. Yes, I can hear a difference to the CD. But I certainly could&= #39;t say which is 'better'. I'm over 40, so I can't hear m= uch over 12 kHz anyway ... IMO, anyone who claims to be able to hear any me= aningful quality difference between 192+ kbps MP3 and CD (through decent ha= rdware) is either deluded or lying.
=A0
I must be honest, that since I downloaded EVERY Beatles album, I havent lis= tened to them, since I downloaded EVERY Aphex twin Album I havent listened = to him... and since I downloaded 80 albums by Merzbow, I certainly havent l= istened to HIM!!!

BTDT. I've listened to them all. Several ti= mes. Still can't see what all the fuss is about with those Beatle chaps= though ....
=A0
The guys in my office, listen on iPod.. OK fair enough, I cant do that= ... and for that the mp3/iTunes combo os fine.. EVERYTHING is available, bu= t you load yer device.. theres yer choice..

An iPod is a godsend if you have 2+ hours train commute every day ... More = or less useless for anything else.
=A0
Has anyone, every been to town, bought an album on mp3, sat on the tra= inunpacking it/ reading every word on the cover/ reading the lyrics, got ho= me, went to room, put on record, laid on bed, played it loud... then played= it AGAIN!!!

Apart from the going to town bit, in effect, ye= s!

Ian


--000e0cd17d6a4881790465443618-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 16 23:26:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ACCF3BE84; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=W1ufBWXmR9T92SOhrDJamja0knbpw+ResCKOvUKe5k3Rp29FsmAVM6wSQ86NTEFB; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903161431h2f6351b1jfae051135c69b6bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:25:06 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: There already IS a looping Forum (Was Re: please be courteous to the list) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79d9f4e03c62d0ede9eec9020d99b7a014350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: <35OW.A.3bE.JAuvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:26:02 +0000 (UTC) But there already IS a Looping Forum... http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi >The suggestion of switching to a forum seems to come up twice a year >for years now. >Some people have even done so, but people vote with their feet, so >to speak. Running those forums costs time and money, and no-one's >stepped forward to foot the bills for that. And my experience with >forums is that the active community size is always about the same as >with a mailing list--a couple dozen people account for 90% of the >posts. > >There will never be a thriving LD forum until the LD mailing list is >turned off by the owner. > >TH -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 00:17:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73E873BE8C; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3608 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:17:20 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Message-id: <49BEDDEE.5000208@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:17:02 -0400 From: Dan Ash User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Resent-Message-ID: <9nWDHB.A.qdG.QwuvJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:17:20 +0000 (UTC) > > Subject: > Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s > From: > Miko Biffle > Date: > Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:10 -0700 > > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Just to clarity: I revere Hendrix and am clearly descended from his > lineage. I owe a huge debt of gratitude to his (and Eddie Kramer's) > godly contributions to the modern vernacular, both conceptually and > electronically. 8-) > > Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, > Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for > the day)—I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch > Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m I think your generalization is not 'off-bass'. The bass was not overly emphasized. We can look to Jimi himself for decisions about the low-end sonic content - although presumably the mastering engineer had the final say. The needle would jump out of the groove if you got carried away! Engineers were still learning to work with the then-new Ampex 8-channel recorders (first produced in 1967) and technical issues related to low-frequency program material. And most engineers checked their final mixes to ensure that it translated to mono playback on tiny speakers and to car stereos! IIRC Redding's contributions were limited WRT mix decisions like this. The details are sometimes sketchy, but actually Hendrix played bass on most/all the more intricate tracks. I don't think Billy Cox concerned himself with these things either - he was charged with holding down the groove with Buddy Miles and keeping Mitch Mitchell in line when he came back to the fold. Another aspect of the discussion of the Hendrix recording legacy is that we're really talking about three or four studio albums completed during Hendrix's lifetime, one of which wasn't completed before he moved on. We're still talking about them as sonic statements forty years later. Since then there has clearly been a shift in what a contemporary rock band sounds like - bass guitars and bass amps have both evolved since these recordings were made - all of them recorded in a three or four year period. I remember how use of synth bass changed the recording landscape - wow those low notes had never even been recorded outside of classical organ repertoire. Anyway - I didn't mean to imply that Miko hadn't acknowledged Jimi's often revolutionary sonic contributions. I just said that it took me a moment to adjust to the idea that like music, all analog audio reproduction will have a stamp that makes it identifiable with a certain period. These days there are clearly some things you couldn't do in an all-analog recording environment. Along a similar line - but a slightly different topic: Who would have thought that guitar,bass, and drums could remain the core of most popular music for fifty years? Someday that rhythm section configuration alone will date the recording! Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 00:51:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A70F3BE7F; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:51:40 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Message-id: <49BEE5F8.8080105@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:51:20 -0400 From: Dan Ash User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:51:40 +0000 (UTC) > >> >> Subject: >> Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s >> From: >> Miko Biffle >> Date: >> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:10 -0700 >> >> To: >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the >> bass is adequate (for the day)—I just don't find Redding's bass that >> satisfying. Mitch Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in >> my book! -m One more point - and not to beat on this too much more... Your comparison of Experience to Zeppelin sonics may well include Zep tracks recorded ten years after Jimi's passing. IIRC alot changed in that time. Again, I jumped into this discussion because it was an eye-opener that sonics will date all recordings to a certain degree. In the early days it was frequency spectrum limitations, then low-end content, then hiss, wow and flutter, and psycho-acoustic aspects (both positive and negative) of analog distortion. Then we had digital artifacts associated with early CD mixes and codecs, inadvertent data truncation to 16 bits and I suppose we'll always digital distortion and artifacts from data compression to deal with.... Of course this is before they SMASH the signal with a compressor effectively eliminating all dynamics in the program material. Then there are the clowns that add these aspects ON PURPOSE, probably just to annoy me. YA CALL THAT MUSIC???! Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 01:16:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF2E23BE84; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237252611; bh=TAORCHO0Vm3bTxedtZrnjYIY2GTLC9KhWdNn4ytud+A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aEjRzRmCE7GNGjPidC+lC2Z67sojk3/wh0FwiprygkTj9l1EUU2TWCfCDsHE+b+b/I3J+QV5Qx7SStLXq62IFhQdsZGnFYlYBVzihLMh/xkUTPr+x9k9M9TANIFmEg06SIsn6NDACBsgQa7vHkL2lPJ2sSzboTtoR/A/VnbdaYQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4TdVVl/IYqfirPJyvlKNXkWG9xq+y6oc+DmB2ezbe6YsM6mIDckIt+dlQl4JIpwgsi4WviqNWhEE34qTzOZ2zLCdYqE7KrXVxDHli8njDJ4VLGEB3uKA1Xk+XRJxdSbMj4baLtba1f90zk02+ZMh97C986lJaMTKQxK5idTZ/4o=; Message-ID: <215258.42788.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hdO3oFQVM1lBG23X9URWHQV2vkUbfV7ZPB2d_vRh4yBwvr8sT1yXlAa23BUtOMnkOYycVu77De3R81CBdih9rmAl6oYscEWJVApCA6cc3VCDVMI2JhQMtjtziECtcrq.8lmPb5QexcCE_KdDt3n1mQfIG5_wW6D1o0vrBrku8D.WMrMj2rpVBUVubX0E68659S4MCUlJ0hQf8b63p_ggurrjju8nzdtvOTmF9CsvSCPhEu8sEIAJAW_clA769ZET X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:16:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1299770505-1237252611=:42788" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:16:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-1299770505-1237252611=:42788 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, but the Iron Butterfly rule! --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Dan Ash wrote: From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 7:51 PM >=20 >>=20 >> Subject: >> Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s >> From: >> Miko Biffle >> Date: >> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:10 -0700 >>=20 >> To: >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 >> I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass = is adequate (for the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's bass that sat= isfying. Mitch Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -= m One more point - and not to beat on this too much more... Your comparison of Experience to Zeppelin sonics may well include Zep track= s recorded ten years after Jimi's passing. IIRC alot changed in that time. Again, I jumped into this discussion because it was an eye-opener that soni= cs will date all recordings to a certain degree. In the early days it was f= requency spectrum limitations, then low-end content, then hiss, wow and flu= tter, and psycho-acoustic aspects (both positive and negative) of analog di= stortion. Then we had digital artifacts associated with early CD mixes and codecs, in= advertent data truncation to 16 bits and I suppose we'll always digital dis= tortion and artifacts from data compression to deal with.... Of course this is before they SMASH the signal with a compressor effectivel= y eliminating all dynamics in the program material. Then there are the clowns that add these aspects ON PURPOSE, probably just = to annoy me. YA CALL THAT MUSIC???! Dan Ash White Plains, NY =0A=0A=0A --0-1299770505-1237252611=:42788 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, but the Iron Butterfly rule!

---= On Mon, 3/16/09, Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net> wrot= e:

From: Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net>
S= ubject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 7:51 PM

>
>>
>> Subject:
>> = Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
>> From:
>> Miko Biffl= e <biffoz@gmail.com>
>= ;> Date:
>> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:10 -0700
>>
>= ;> To:
>> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
<snip= >
>> I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on vinyl and = feel the bass is adequate (for the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's= bass that satisfying. Mitch Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham= in my book! -m
One more point - and not to beat on this too much more..= .

Your comparison of Experience to Zeppelin sonics may well include = Zep tracks recorded ten years after Jimi's passing. IIRC alot changed in that time.
Again, I jumped into this discussion because it was an eye-opener tha= t sonics will date all recordings to a certain degree. In the early days it= was frequency spectrum limitations, then low-end content, then hiss, wow a= nd flutter, and psycho-acoustic aspects (both positive and negative) of ana= log distortion.

Then we had digital artifacts associated with early = CD mixes and codecs, inadvertent data truncation to 16 bits and I suppose w= e'll always digital distortion and artifacts from data compression to deal = with....

Of course this is before they SMASH the signal with a compr= essor effectively eliminating all dynamics in the program material.

= Then there are the clowns that add these aspects ON PURPOSE, probably just = to annoy me. YA CALL THAT MUSIC???!

Dan Ash
White Plains, NY
<= BR>


=0A=0A --0-1299770505-1237252611=:42788-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 01:20:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 173643BE8A; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BEFAD8.7060201@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:20:24 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: REVISED 2.0 MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Live Looping Solutions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:20:28 +0000 (UTC) _*SHORT LIST of CHEAPEST LIVE LOOPING SOLUTIONS for the NEWBIE LOOPER*_ In the United States *Audible Disease JUNK FI SAMPLER JF-1 $90 (runs on batteries) *(note: this looper will not pass original sound through as you loop and adds a small bit of silence to a continous loop meaning that it is useless as a rhythmic looper. It does, however have pitch control of the loops over a wide range unlike any other cheap pedal and it has very low sample rate so it is very trashy sounding (on purpose) *BOSS DD-7 $160 + $20 (PSA 120 - AC) * (note: a digital delay that is not a dedicated looper but will loop) *RC-2 $180 + $20 (PSA 120-AC) **AKAI HEADRUSH $200 + $20 (MP9-3 AC) Electro-Harmonix Stereo Memory Man with Hazarai Delay Pedal $214 (not sure about AC pedal) *(note: all the reviews at Harmony Central mention the fact that the volume of the click is really distracting but that , otherwise, this pedal has a lot going for it). Boss DD20 *$219 + $20 (PSA 120 - AC)* *LINE 6 DL4 $250 ac included* *RC-20XL $260 + $20 (PSA 120-AC) * *PC Laptop running Mobius or other free looping software* - anywhere from free if one is resourceful and/or lucky to around $700 for a system that is ready to go with Midi footpedals, and a decent sound card without latency (in other words, a live looping solution that you can take out of the box and play immediately like the other stomp boxes on the list ----- (note: this solution requires a fair degree of computer knowledge to set up with access to the Loopers Delight archives to figure out how to use the keyboard as a hand controller. This is a viable solution if one can find a free or very cheap laptop but precludes foot pedal control and adds latency and noise from a cheap internal sound card. To badly paraphrase Rainer Straschill, however, if you are resourceful and knowledgeable, where there is a will, there is a way. *Two REEL TO REEL TAPE DECKS What every you can purchase them for plus the cost of tape and splicing gear *(note: not appropriate for any kind of rhythmic looping or accurate overdubbing in a live setting. Great for ambient or experimental looping live but time consuming to play more than one piece of music at a live show) *Old Cassette recorders Whatever you can purchase them for plus the cost of tape and splicing gear *(same note applies from REEL to REEL solution) In the UK *RC-2 £90 + psu * *SMM & Hazari £145 **DD-7 £120 + psu * *RC-20XL £140 (maybe £125) + psu Headrush £140 +psu (maybe £120)(it's gone up! used to be <100) **DL4 £240 (maybe £200) PC Laptop running Mobius or other free looping software (see notes above in the US price list) 2 REEL to REEL TAPE DECKS CASSETTE RECORDER with endless CASSETTE TAPES (purchased or created)* From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 01:21:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C48103BE8C; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237252889; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=NpXi8wVNOIICXAalBoCcYbtPwAA=; b=DU72KaoNGJnvvsyQndwQXLrlAdASZ61ZmiGsSgN2IxQLox0fQEH1ezCVe9cLx8Zj KUAP/Cx7wzXRmEhhf7CalOvy6Sv3+4mHW8QK7qC53UJVzRa9EFCzlkjhIRI2Nxe5; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Vv9EC5hfPrM8sJg3MkgA:9 a=v_3Jdl8SPFSbZiPdtksA:7 a=WPHrwJK5TMCNc-s_chLNZzPBo1QA:4 a=ESEIaOzqGKcA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=ektYaPM2Vp_cw_wJxP8A:9 a=cjOHCGrl1GHuanfZO2IA:7 a=GYhPcmWYyKSAnl8jrZWiSduhVgYA:4 a=ct1jHBItfXcA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01c9a69e$b23fd0a0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <215258.42788.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:21:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A67D.2A318120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:21:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A67D.2A318120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh yeah! I saw them and Hendrix in 69. the Denver Pop Festival. Like = yesterday, lol j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Paul Richards=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:16 PM Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s Yeah, but the Iron Butterfly rule! --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Dan Ash wrote: From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 7:51 PM >=20 >>=20 >> Subject: >> Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s >> From: >> Miko Biffle >> Date: >> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:10 -0700 >>=20 >> To: >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 >> I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and many others on vinyl and = feel the bass is adequate (for the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find = Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there = with Bonham in my book! -m One more point - and not to beat on this too much more... Your comparison of Experience to Zeppelin sonics may well = include Zep tracks recorded ten years after Jimi's passing. IIRC alot = changed in that time. Again, I jumped into this discussion because it was an = eye-opener that sonics will date all recordings to a certain degree. In = the early days it was frequency spectrum limitations, then low-end = content, then hiss, wow and flutter, and psycho-acoustic aspects (both = positive and negative) of analog distortion. Then we had digital artifacts associated with early CD mixes = and codecs, inadvertent data truncation to 16 bits and I suppose we'll = always digital distortion and artifacts from data compression to deal = with.... Of course this is before they SMASH the signal with a = compressor effectively eliminating all dynamics in the program material. Then there are the clowns that add these aspects ON PURPOSE, = probably just to annoy me. YA CALL THAT MUSIC???! Dan Ash White Plains, NY =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A67D.2A318120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Oh yeah! I saw them and Hendrix in 69. = the Denver=20 Pop Festival. Like yesterday, lol
 
j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Paul Richards
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 = 9:16=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle = sound' of=20 Mp3s

Yeah, but the Iron Butterfly rule!

--- On = Mon,=20 3/16/09, Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net>= =20 wrote:

From:=20 Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net>
= Subject:=20 Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date:=20 Monday, March 16, 2009, 7:51 PM

>
>>
>>=20 Subject:
>> Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of = Mp3s
>>=20 From:
>> Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>
>> = Date:
>> Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:29:10 -0700
>>=20
>> To:
>> Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com=20
<snip>
>> I can listen to Zep, Sabbath and = many=20 others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for the = day)=E2=80=94I just=20 don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch Mitchell OTOH = ranks=20 right up there with Bonham in my book! -m
One more point - = and not=20 to beat on this too much more...

Your comparison of = Experience=20 to Zeppelin sonics may well include Zep tracks recorded ten = years=20 after Jimi's passing. IIRC alot changed in that = time.

Again, I=20 jumped into this discussion because it was an eye-opener that = sonics=20 will date all recordings to a certain degree. In the early = days it was=20 frequency spectrum limitations, then low-end content, then = hiss, wow=20 and flutter, and psycho-acoustic aspects (both positive and = negative)=20 of analog distortion.

Then we had digital artifacts = associated=20 with early CD mixes and codecs, inadvertent data truncation to = 16 bits=20 and I suppose we'll always digital distortion and artifacts = from data=20 compression to deal with....

Of course this is before = they=20 SMASH the signal with a compressor effectively eliminating all = dynamics in the program material.

Then there are the = clowns=20 that add these aspects ON PURPOSE, probably just to annoy me. = YA CALL=20 THAT MUSIC???!

Dan Ash
White Plains,=20 = NY




------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C9A67D.2A318120-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 03:46:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 419813BE7E; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 20:46:32 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: beautiful minimal tasty connected Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:46:36 +0000 (UTC) 'nuff said! * Wolfgang Muthspiel *(guitar and loop) *Brian Blade *(drums) - FRIENDLY TRAVELERS LIVE _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkT7TY0P8W4 _ps thanks to Jerome Deupree (a great and unique Boston area drummer in his own right) for recommending this clip to me_ _ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 03:51:56 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABD103BE7F; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:45:32 -0400 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Doctor T with New Language Collaborative 03.21.09 @119 Lowell, MA Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 03:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'm performing video improvisations next Saturday with a very exciting jazz/improv band, the New Language Collaborative at the Boston area's most comfortable performance space, the 119 Gallery in Lowell. Doctor T Video Mixing with Eric Zinman - keyboard Glynis Loman - cello and voice Syd Smart - drums Eric and is an old friend whom I haven't performed with in many years,. Glynis is another old friend whom I've performed with many times. Syd is a long time presence in the Boston jazz scene. I've heard this band make exciting music both live and on CD, and am looking forward to being a part of it. 8 PM $10 donation Culinary note: There is an outstanding Cambodian restaurant next door to the gallery. http://www.119gallery.org/ 119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell MA 01851 978-452-8138 -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 05:52:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53A9E3BE73; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zoAvQRlYXjauthqcBSpM06DjFhQdbY446g9UpbRupTk=; b=Ewhjp2ZnGDAFVVP3RfdriF9wNdUdI5ta0w9lMfZXZYklMepfwl/r7DR7REh69n/WuJ c75gIIxWs8rnKQDMFj8gz+nsYXwGTmH32DOY9RuqiIw6+j2dj1mWBuj+shUAuzIAjVGJ 0mKygyT0RdhHhIJraQcnVqdwgJdf/6E6jPNGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qtjbcL8CH86unB+h+ljMRceXUiJ5BBiPGWB8U/6p1qEgMJIdqaCtseOjUcDbCNtHmo 4Ao6tZ1J2I1YYQ0lTOGSnQQizgDM5YcZCYYgP94SSz6QD/u/gPFSLVxTPSbecPq9143j UdfeMTNRFO8km+KTdDLjlYuUS/iiou/zZMWKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <49BE710A.2020904@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903161431h2f6351b1jfae051135c69b6bf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:52:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum (Was Re: please be courteous to the list) From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd15534c34d2a04654a2b29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:52:24 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd15534c34d2a04654a2b29 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, but not a thriving one. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > But there already IS a Looping Forum... > > http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi > > > --000e0cd15534c34d2a04654a2b29 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, but not a thriving one.

On Mon, Mar = 16, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:


But there already IS a Looping Forum...

http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi



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Yes, but not a thriving one.


"We rest our case..."

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--0015174c358c22840604654c43a3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 08:30:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 337923BE86; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 168717701/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.223.252/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.223.252 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: An8BAN/8vklPTt/8/2dsb2JhbAAI1RiDfgaHLQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,377,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="168717701" Message-ID: <49BF61BE.907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:39:26 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <37f071c00903161538i32b11469u8dbae9b0121dbef4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <37f071c00903161538i32b11469u8dbae9b0121dbef4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-2xre.A.P4.k-1vJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:28 +0000 (UTC) hi Kevin, yep, I'm a Rolandophobe ;-) ...but now I remember Ted Killians killer dd20 moves. Only £110 + £psu inUK. At $219 + $psu in the US >From what I heard on this list, the SOS mode wasn't up to much, but the manual *suggests* it's possible to 1) tap in a loop 2) overdub 3) quickly erase loop and start another So in theory, it's a good alternative. Is there some hidden drawback to the SOS? (i kind of remember there was, and that LDers prized it for allowing 2 simultaneous delays) andy Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > You're missing the Boss DD20 which is also more delay than looper but > has sound on sound and 23 seconds of delay with feedback control. > $219 in the US. > > Kevin > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker wrote: >> Okay, we are nearing a good list, here. >> It would be great if someone would complete this list with prices >> from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say this because prices obviously >> very greatly from the US to the UK alone) >> >> I purposefully didn't included pedals that are no longer in production >> (but we could with their salient going prices-anyone feel like doing that >> research?) >> but I did include used laptop, reel to reel and cassette solutions. >> >> What are we missing anything? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 08:32:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39BA33BE86; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 168719247/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.223.252/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.223.252 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvQBAN/8vklPTt/8/2dsb2JhbAAIj2rFLoN+Boct X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,377,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="168719247" Message-ID: <49BF6242.1050703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:41:38 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST _ question References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: Hi Rick, what's your target audience for this list? I'd imagined it would be people who wanted to tap in a rhythmically accurate loop. That's what I tried to base the UK list on. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 11:19:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E0D83BE79; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237288757; bh=B7V9lXYQ0act+1OvWwvY1wwtp1PQQe8PAZDRQtQJwds=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MaXgVmkgZKXqnOYkZwzr/UX58hQmxxTFbw/Vj5bX04gafZD/lmuPHFEK7kYJ89SFUJv9TTrhdgV+s95keWp0uiP5dl6kv+Ifs1C1IM0VLbjQLyK394uabODTen6C7Rb8IkbTYGWm8wigOk/sgryU3IleFdF1JhC/8t6SIQkDXYs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Sg/4gecPCuLwbNU2AyhEHtFSt4ZQo/LqCyZEWm6g0hq3E4rFTalhgpGKCYd+iOlFzYD65738gp/efUGCgdCJpYqG+Q/Pm7c3OFSbVBshoZE2yFTL9Tzl4gKlKLP6Q84lUNTZ1ER02aHH9giS+ZRmTMoTByS5lRKKI+XnW5ICK7E=; Message-ID: <407818.10742.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: TTcfqREVM1kr16PH8RR39A3Rze8fPFvY1DgIMfoortX1e9nJXXT8fNNm_i7zEjL5.JdVAyZDK8nqDdcyxg_aCT8bF4abMgMmuVOZJQn3irn_FOUJRqVPNU4Qk9rVBUG1KSc0p6eJwxtX3e.qitv__eLN7Yo2_co_EGvHSYyVKM3cgrgaoacREN_RJZia X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:19:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: RE: European Live Looping Festival 2009 Antwerp - update 2 To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <8PpxGD.A.0wF.2c4vJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sjaak, ive sent you my info already but didnt get a confirmation from you if u received it,please let me know if u would like me to resend i= t to you cheers! Luis > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 > --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Sjaak > wrote: >=20 > > From: Sjaak > > Subject: RE: European Live Looping Festival 2009 > Antwerp - update 2 > > To: "Craig Green" > , "Kalimbaman" > , "L.Angulo" > , "Darkroom" > , "Akim Triebsch" > , "e t e r o g e n e o" > > > Cc: "'Sjaak'" > , "Rick Walker" > , > "'fearfallsburning'" > , "'Michael > Peters'" , "'Ronald > Mari=C3=ABn'" > > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 3:03 PM > > Hi, > > The latest news:=20 > >=20 > > *=09The website has been updated already, version 1.0 of > the > > affiche is > > online > > *=09Sound engineer Ronald Mari=C3=ABn of Microphonics (Dirk > > Serries) has > > offered to do the PA and mixing for the whole > festival. > > Thanks Ronald! > > *=09The festival will be recorded (CD/mp3) > > =09 > > *=09I have received or got permission to add the artist > bio > > and picture > > to the website from 4 persons, which means I'm > still > > missing 6 ;)=20 > >=20 > > =20 > > So what I need from you asap is: > >=20 > > 1) Short musical biography (max 200 words) , mp3 and > jpeg > > material =3D> this > > information will be published on the > > http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp/ =3D > > http://livelooping.be/ website > >=20 > > 2) Url of your official website=20 > >=20 > > 3) How many persons your act exists of > >=20 > > 4) Technical data =3D> what do you need regarding PA > > facilities: mics, > > monitors, DI's, transformer 115-230V =3D> This > will be > > discussed with sound > > engineer Ronald Marien. > >=20 > > Thanks, > >=20 > > Sjaak Overgaauw > > Festival organizer=20 > > European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > >=20 > > livelooping.be / > > euroloopfest.com > > =20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sjaak [mailto:sjaak@euroloopfest.com]=20 > > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 23:56 > > To: Craig Green; Kalimbaman; L.Angulo; Rick Walker; > > Darkroom; Akim Triebsch; > > e t e r o g e n e o; 'fearfallsburning'; > > 'Michael Peters' > > Subject: European Live Looping Festival 2009 Antwerp - > > update 2 > >=20 > >=20 > > Hi all, > > A short update on the European Live Looping Festival, > > Antwerp May 30 :) > >=20 > > Artists > >=20 > > I'm happy that almost 20 artists have asked for a > slot > > on the festival and > > that is more than I expected. It's also a good mix > of > > several genres and > > that's interesting for the public. Here the list > of the > > artists who have > > confirmed my email of last January: > >=20 > > - Rick Walker - USA > > - Microphonics - Belgium - Dirk Serries from Fear > Falls > > Burning > > - Fabio Anile - Italy > > - Luis Angelo - Mexico/Germany > > - Akim Triebsch - Canada > > - Darkroom - UK > > - Craig Green - USA > > - Kevin "Kalimbaman" Spears - USA > > - Michael Peters - Germany > > - Sjaak Overgaauw - Belgium > >=20 > > In case you want to cancel your slot, please let me > know > > before March 15, > > this will allow me to invite other artists > >=20 > > Venue > >=20 > > The location of the the festival will probably be the > small > > hall of the > > Arenberg Theatre in Antwerp (to be confirmed) with > room for > > 100 people > > (seats) . The current plan: the festival will start on > > 19:00 and end on > > 24:00. Tickets will go on sale in april. There's a > bar > > with all the good > > things from Belgium breweries and other drinks. We can > use > > the lights and I > > have arranged a professional PA for the festival plus > an > > experienced sound > > engineer. > >=20 > > What I need from you, if possible within 1-2 weeks > >=20 > > 1) Short musical biography (max 200 words) , mp3 and > jpeg > > material =3D> this > > information will be published on the > > http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp/ =3D > > http://livelooping.be/ website > >=20 > > 2) Url of your official website=20 > >=20 > > 3) How many persons your act exists of > >=20 > > 4) Technical data =3D> what do you need regarding PA > > facilities: mics, > > monitors, DI's, transformer 115-230V > >=20 > > Promotion > >=20 > > I'm currently cooperating with a media expert to > > promote the festival in > > several Belgium music media. The campagne will start > on > > April 15. > >=20 > > =20 > >=20 > > If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks > and I > > hope to hear > > from you > >=20 > >=20 > > Sjaak Overgaauw > > Festival organizer=20 > > European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > >=20 > >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sjaak [mailto:sjaak@euroloopfest.com]=20 > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 01:19 > > To: 'info@krispenhartung.com' > > Subject: European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > Dear looper,=20 > > you are receiving this email because you have > expressed > > interest in playing > > at the Antwerp live looping festival. I have promised > to > > give you more > > information in January 2009. First of all, the > festival is > > definitely going > > to take place and I=E2=80=99m really enthusiastic to > organize > > this live looping > > festival! So here we go :) > >=20 > > Where - Antwerp, Belgium - venue TBA > >=20 > > When - May 30, 2009. The best period seems to be end > of May > > and June. I have > > decided to schedule the Antwerp festival on Saturday > May > > 30, 2009. This is > > the date I'm going to work with so you guys can > start > > planning your own > > agenda's. Usually it works like this: once you set > a > > date, then things fall > > in around it. > >=20 > > Who - So far, I have received request from Canada (1), > USA > > (5), Germany (2), > > Italy (1), Belgium (2), UK(1) and Austria (1) plus > some > > others. The styles > > of all these artists are all very different which > makes it > > very interesting > > imo; it's a mix of World, Jazz, Ambient, > Avant-Garde > > and Live Electronics. > > The official names will be announced asap. > >=20 > > Festival format - The format will be the same as on > the > > Cologne festival of > > May 31, 2008 (organized by Michael Peters). This means > > artists have 30 > > minute maximum each. And as it looks now we'll > have > > about 10 acts which > > means a 6 hour show. > >=20 > > Finances - I can't promise compensation for the > > artists but....profits > > generated from the bar, ticket sales, booklets and > > hopefully > > sponsors/subsidies will be used to pay the artists. I > think > > this is a fair > > proposal. > >=20 > > Other euroloopfest.com festivals - I'm in contact > with > > other LD members to > > coordinate additional festivals in Europe around June > 2009. > > I can't give you > > the details yet (I want to leave that to the > responsible > > festival organizers > > himself) but I thought I was important enough to let > you > > know Antwerp will > > probably not the only city in Europe having a live > looping > > festival in 2009! > >=20 > >=20 > > What I need from you - If you'd like to keep your > slot > > on the Antwerp live > > looping festival, please send an email to > > sjaak@euroloopfest.com > > . Keep in mind > this > > is a still a > > preliminary reservation; I just want to know if you > are > > still seriously > > interested. I'll send you another email in > March/April > > which will be the > > confirmation to perform on the festival. > >=20 > > If you want, you can already send me some info: > >=20 > > 1) Short musical biography and description of your > act, > > instruments you play > >=20 > >=20 > > 2) Mp3 and jpeg material (links are fine) I can use > for > > official promotion > > and the website > >=20 > >=20 > > =20 > > =20 > > Thanks and I hope to hear from you > >=20 > >=20 > > Sjaak Overgaauw > > Festival organizer=20 > > European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > >=20 > > livelooping.be / > > euroloopfest.com > > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 12:21:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D1243BE7E; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <29336.69.73.1237292473.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:21:13 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rick, Loved it. Great way to start my day. Cheers, Andre Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Mon, March 16, 2009 11:46 pm, Rick Walker wrote: > 'nuff said! > * > Wolfgang Muthspiel *(guitar and loop) > *Brian Blade *(drums) - FRIENDLY TRAVELERS LIVE > > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkT7TY0P8W4 > > > _ps thanks to Jerome Deupree (a great and unique Boston area drummer > in his own right) > for recommending this clip to me_ > _ > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 12:37:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 256D53BE7E; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:37:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1ZHA0z49PVLcZR/sM6BUhssnZkMLqjRj7XWd9NYphmQ=; b=E2376dysaCIXZ+RDrglPMSRqcUd10LCWeNSYuHZwu8vKcTbxTOj9b2rAAjtTHnBDVb lP/wbaGvnXEPznVS9/rouwy+TPNpMux1A/7OGOwwzmNIwmpRr7BugBgAs0gYAlrvXhzC lS7kUdVkaT6sNqdbAlGnsdObP2nZMO4x1nLQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HkuQNY0qdZhH4zKjGssgTpZ9H42EYMZNSoSoCCv702KZ84M6B4ANlJMNHVXhmIBnRa jMqEzco2mzwz3nqhEDxWtzNnDE9/bBcAFQwUs51Z+l3VwtrpXGceX65xC6ifzPye3oW7 +nv+53gbU5Z+0uT61KaNOjeZA3s18XByw/yP4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <29336.69.73.1237292473.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> <29336.69.73.1237292473.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:37:14 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903170537t4b85d0c5ga5b6bd9fffbe66@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:37:15 +0000 (UTC) > On Mon, March 16, 2009 11:46 pm, Rick Walker wrote: >> 'nuff said! >> * >> Wolfgang Muthspiel *(guitar and loop) >> *Brian Blade *(drums) - FRIENDLY TRAVELERS LIVE >> >> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkT7TY0P8W4 Groovy drumming! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 13:44:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 567193BE7F; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 364 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:28 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5NX8/QgKtdkoL/e1zASLhohMB8Hsfv0M6NJ2+25ZVN4=; b=OrErKwK2uwjsdhQCNP88622oNjBnVsvHPTo9cEIyrykiC7rICK8M0n8MfstyKLTIS7 Gk5Mfa+odWR0CJe1Ag0QOjTFIVV7aJS/skr2RwlIlKmRyuVkzJwhmVC+qFzx0+F7B19h 4iSGs1YnQ0nXAgUBoUcmFH89xHsIiT0liiHxU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=x1OuMtSwxmcSSUz7BuKu5y7Hh4ncVDTzQjyn0TYh/Rj2huSTkXcA0uzK8yQXYlz1Tk LTTgBKkN+XmAHoA0E4xirw71ssV2SE+DnEXAj3hF8EPdLRjA3zyihIgLXhKMKhFsP2tr D21OXqAnql+D/kHKGVEKXn9U2Qhfw0Dth6HBU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <407818.10742.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <407818.10742.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:38:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: European Live Looping Festival 2009 Antwerp - update 2 From: Raul Bonell To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c398a5189f9046550aeb9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:44:29 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c398a5189f9046550aeb9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WoW!! 2009/3/17 L.Angulo > > Hi Sjaak, > ive sent you my info already but didnt get a confirmation > from you if u received it,please let me know if u would like me to resend > it to you > cheers! > Luis > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Sjaak > > wrote: > > > > > From: Sjaak > > > Subject: RE: European Live Looping Festival 2009 > > Antwerp - update 2 > > > To: "Craig Green" > > , "Kalimbaman" > > , "L.Angulo" > > , "Darkroom" > > , "Akim Triebsch" > > , "e t e r o g e n e o" > > > > > Cc: "'Sjaak'" > > , "Rick Walker" > > , > > "'fearfallsburning'" > > , "'Michael > > Peters'" , "'Ronald > > Mari=EBn'" > > > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 3:03 PM > > > Hi, > > > The latest news: > > > > > > * The website has been updated already, version 1.0 of > > the > > > affiche is > > > online > > > * Sound engineer Ronald Mari=EBn of Microphonics (Dirk > > > Serries) has > > > offered to do the PA and mixing for the whole > > festival. > > > Thanks Ronald! > > > * The festival will be recorded (CD/mp3) > > > > > > * I have received or got permission to add the artist > > bio > > > and picture > > > to the website from 4 persons, which means I'm > > still > > > missing 6 ;) > > > > > > > > > So what I need from you asap is: > > > > > > 1) Short musical biography (max 200 words) , mp3 and > > jpeg > > > material =3D> this > > > information will be published on the > > > http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp/ =3D > > > http://livelooping.be/ website > > > > > > 2) Url of your official website > > > > > > 3) How many persons your act exists of > > > > > > 4) Technical data =3D> what do you need regarding PA > > > facilities: mics, > > > monitors, DI's, transformer 115-230V =3D> This > > will be > > > discussed with sound > > > engineer Ronald Marien. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Sjaak Overgaauw > > > Festival organizer > > > European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > > > > > > livelooping.be / > > > euroloopfest.com > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Sjaak [mailto:sjaak@euroloopfest.com] > > > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 23:56 > > > To: Craig Green; Kalimbaman; L.Angulo; Rick Walker; > > > Darkroom; Akim Triebsch; > > > e t e r o g e n e o; 'fearfallsburning'; > > > 'Michael Peters' > > > Subject: European Live Looping Festival 2009 Antwerp - > > > update 2 > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > A short update on the European Live Looping Festival, > > > Antwerp May 30 :) > > > > > > Artists > > > > > > I'm happy that almost 20 artists have asked for a > > slot > > > on the festival and > > > that is more than I expected. It's also a good mix > > of > > > several genres and > > > that's interesting for the public. Here the list > > of the > > > artists who have > > > confirmed my email of last January: > > > > > > - Rick Walker - USA > > > - Microphonics - Belgium - Dirk Serries from Fear > > Falls > > > Burning > > > - Fabio Anile - Italy > > > - Luis Angelo - Mexico/Germany > > > - Akim Triebsch - Canada > > > - Darkroom - UK > > > - Craig Green - USA > > > - Kevin "Kalimbaman" Spears - USA > > > - Michael Peters - Germany > > > - Sjaak Overgaauw - Belgium > > > > > > In case you want to cancel your slot, please let me > > know > > > before March 15, > > > this will allow me to invite other artists > > > > > > Venue > > > > > > The location of the the festival will probably be the > > small > > > hall of the > > > Arenberg Theatre in Antwerp (to be confirmed) with > > room for > > > 100 people > > > (seats) . The current plan: the festival will start on > > > 19:00 and end on > > > 24:00. Tickets will go on sale in april. There's a > > bar > > > with all the good > > > things from Belgium breweries and other drinks. We can > > use > > > the lights and I > > > have arranged a professional PA for the festival plus > > an > > > experienced sound > > > engineer. > > > > > > What I need from you, if possible within 1-2 weeks > > > > > > 1) Short musical biography (max 200 words) , mp3 and > > jpeg > > > material =3D> this > > > information will be published on the > > > http://euroloopfest.com/antwerp/ =3D > > > http://livelooping.be/ website > > > > > > 2) Url of your official website > > > > > > 3) How many persons your act exists of > > > > > > 4) Technical data =3D> what do you need regarding PA > > > facilities: mics, > > > monitors, DI's, transformer 115-230V > > > > > > Promotion > > > > > > I'm currently cooperating with a media expert to > > > promote the festival in > > > several Belgium music media. The campagne will start > > on > > > April 15. > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks > > and I > > > hope to hear > > > from you > > > > > > > > > Sjaak Overgaauw > > > Festival organizer > > > European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Sjaak [mailto:sjaak@euroloopfest.com] > > > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 01:19 > > > To: 'info@krispenhartung.com' > > > Subject: European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear looper, > > > you are receiving this email because you have > > expressed > > > interest in playing > > > at the Antwerp live looping festival. I have promised > > to > > > give you more > > > information in January 2009. First of all, the > > festival is > > > definitely going > > > to take place and I=92m really enthusiastic to > > organize > > > this live looping > > > festival! So here we go :) > > > > > > Where - Antwerp, Belgium - venue TBA > > > > > > When - May 30, 2009. The best period seems to be end > > of May > > > and June. I have > > > decided to schedule the Antwerp festival on Saturday > > May > > > 30, 2009. This is > > > the date I'm going to work with so you guys can > > start > > > planning your own > > > agenda's. Usually it works like this: once you set > > a > > > date, then things fall > > > in around it. > > > > > > Who - So far, I have received request from Canada (1), > > USA > > > (5), Germany (2), > > > Italy (1), Belgium (2), UK(1) and Austria (1) plus > > some > > > others. The styles > > > of all these artists are all very different which > > makes it > > > very interesting > > > imo; it's a mix of World, Jazz, Ambient, > > Avant-Garde > > > and Live Electronics. > > > The official names will be announced asap. > > > > > > Festival format - The format will be the same as on > > the > > > Cologne festival of > > > May 31, 2008 (organized by Michael Peters). This means > > > artists have 30 > > > minute maximum each. And as it looks now we'll > > have > > > about 10 acts which > > > means a 6 hour show. > > > > > > Finances - I can't promise compensation for the > > > artists but....profits > > > generated from the bar, ticket sales, booklets and > > > hopefully > > > sponsors/subsidies will be used to pay the artists. I > > think > > > this is a fair > > > proposal. > > > > > > Other euroloopfest.com festivals - I'm in contact > > with > > > other LD members to > > > coordinate additional festivals in Europe around June > > 2009. > > > I can't give you > > > the details yet (I want to leave that to the > > responsible > > > festival organizers > > > himself) but I thought I was important enough to let > > you > > > know Antwerp will > > > probably not the only city in Europe having a live > > looping > > > festival in 2009! > > > > > > > > > What I need from you - If you'd like to keep your > > slot > > > on the Antwerp live > > > looping festival, please send an email to > > > sjaak@euroloopfest.com > > > . Keep in mind > > this > > > is a still a > > > preliminary reservation; I just want to know if you > > are > > > still seriously > > > interested. I'll send you another email in > > March/April > > > which will be the > > > confirmation to perform on the festival. > > > > > > If you want, you can already send me some info: > > > > > > 1) Short musical biography and description of your > > act, > > > instruments you play > > > > > > > > > 2) Mp3 and jpeg material (links are fine) I can use > > for > > > official promotion > > > and the website > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks and I hope to hear from you > > > > > > > > > Sjaak Overgaauw > > > Festival organizer > > > European loopfestival 2009 - Antwerp > > > > > > livelooping.be / > > > euroloopfest.com > > > > > > > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0015174c398a5189f9046550aeb9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable WoW!!

2009/3/17 L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>

Hi Sjaak,
ive sent you my info already but didnt get a confirmation
from you if u received it,please let me know if u would like me to resend i= t to you
cheers!
Luis

> www= .myspace.com/luisangulocom
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Sjaak <sjaak@euroloopfest.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Sjaak <sjaak@e= uroloopfest.com>
> > Subject: RE: European Live Looping Festival 2009
> Antwerp - update 2
> > To: "Craig Green"
> <craig@craigjgreen.com= >, "Kalimbaman"
> <kalimbaman7@yahoo.com= >, "L.Angulo"
> <labaloops@yahoo.com>= , "Darkroom"
> <darkroom@collective.c= o.uk>, "Akim Triebsch"
> <atriebsch@yahoo.com>= , "e t e r o g e n e o"
> <info@eterogeneo.com>=
> > Cc: "'Sjaak'"
> <sjaak@euroloopfest.com>, "Rick Walker"
> <looppool@cruzio.com>= ,
> "'fearfallsburning'"
> <vintage@fearfallsbu= rning.be>, "'Michael
> Peters'" <mp@mpeters.de>, "'Ronald
> Mari=EBn'" <ron= aldmarien@scarlet.be>
> > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 3:03 PM
> > Hi,
> > The latest news:
> >
> > * =A0 The website has been updated already, version 1.0 of
> the
> > affiche is
> > online
> > * =A0 Sound engineer Ronald Mari=EBn of Microphonics (Dirk
> > Serries) has
> > offered to do the PA and mixing for the whole
> festival.
> > Thanks Ronald!
> > * =A0 The festival will be recorded (CD/mp3)
> >
> > * =A0 I have received or got permission to add the artist
> bio
> > and picture
> > to the website from 4 persons, which means I'm
> still
> > missing 6 ;)
> >
> >
> > So what I need from you asap is:
> >
> > 1) Short musical biography (max 200 words) , mp3 and
> jpeg
> > material =3D> this
> > information will be published on the
> > ht= tp://euroloopfest.com/antwerp/ =3D
> > http://livel= ooping.be/ website
> >
> > 2) Url of your official website
> >
> > 3) How many persons your act exists of
> >
> > 4) Technical data =3D> what do you need regarding PA
> > facilities: mics,
> > monitors, DI's, transformer 115-230V =3D> This
> will be
> > discussed with sound
> > engineer Ronald Marien.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sjaak Overgaauw
> > Festival organizer
> > European loopfestival 2009 =A0- Antwerp
> >
> > livelooping.b= e <http://w= ww.livelooping.be/> =A0/
> > euroloopfes= t.com
> > <ht= tp://www.euroloopfest.com/>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sjaak [mailto:sja= ak@euroloopfest.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 23:56
> > To: Craig Green; Kalimbaman; L.Angulo; Rick Walker;
> > Darkroom; Akim Triebsch;
> > e t e r o g e n e o; 'fearfallsburning';
> > 'Michael Peters'
> > Subject: European Live Looping Festival 2009 Antwerp -
> > update 2
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> > A short update on the European Live Looping Festival,
> > Antwerp May 30 :)
> >
> > Artists
> >
> > I'm happy that almost 20 artists have asked for a
> slot
> > on the festival and
> > that is more than I expected. It's also a good mix
> of
> > several genres and
> > that's interesting for the public. Here the list
> of the
> > artists who have
> > confirmed my email of last January:
> >
> > - Rick Walker - USA
> > - Microphonics - Belgium - Dirk Serries from Fear
> Falls
> > Burning
> > - Fabio Anile - Italy
> > - Luis Angelo - Mexico/Germany
> > - Akim Triebsch - Canada
> > - Darkroom - UK
> > - Craig Green - USA
> > - Kevin "Kalimbaman" Spears - USA
> > - Michael Peters - Germany
> > - Sjaak Overgaauw - Belgium
> >
> > In case you want to cancel your slot, please let me
> know
> > before March 15,
> > this will allow me to invite other artists
> >
> > Venue
> >
> > The location of the the festival will probably be the
> small
> > hall of the
> > Arenberg Theatre in Antwerp (to be confirmed) with
> room for
> > 100 people
> > (seats) . The current plan: the festival will start on
> > 19:00 and end on
> > 24:00. Tickets will go on sale in april. There's a
> bar
> > with all the good
> > things from Belgium breweries and other drinks. We can
> use
> > the lights and I
> > have arranged a professional PA for the festival plus
> an
> > experienced sound
> > engineer.
> >
> > What I need from you, if possible within 1-2 weeks
> >
> > 1) Short musical biography (max 200 words) , mp3 and
> jpeg
> > material =3D> this
> > information will be published on the
> > ht= tp://euroloopfest.com/antwerp/ =3D
> > http://livel= ooping.be/ website
> >
> > 2) Url of your official website
> >
> > 3) How many persons your act exists of
> >
> > 4) Technical data =3D> what do you need regarding PA
> > facilities: mics,
> > monitors, DI's, transformer 115-230V
> >
> > Promotion
> >
> > I'm currently cooperating with a media expert to
> > promote the festival in
> > several Belgium music media. The campagne will start
> on
> > April 15.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks
> and I
> > hope to hear
> > from you
> >
> >
> > Sjaak Overgaauw
> > Festival organizer
> > European loopfestival 2009 =A0- Antwerp
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sjaak [mailto:sja= ak@euroloopfest.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 01:19
> > To: 'info@krispenh= artung.com'
> > Subject: European loopfestival 2009 =A0 - Antwerp
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear looper,
> > you are receiving this email because you have
> expressed
> > interest in playing
> > at the Antwerp live looping festival. I have promised
> to
> > give you more
> > information in January 2009. First of all, the
> festival is
> > definitely going
> > to take place and I=92m really enthusiastic to
> organize
> > this live looping
> > festival! So here we go :)
> >
> > Where - Antwerp, Belgium - venue TBA
> >
> > When - May 30, 2009. The best period seems to be end
> of May
> > and June. I have
> > decided to schedule the Antwerp festival on Saturday
> May
> > 30, 2009. This is
> > the date I'm going to work with so you guys can
> start
> > planning your own
> > agenda's. Usually it works like this: once you set
> a
> > date, then things fall
> > in around it.
> >
> > Who - So far, I have received request from Canada (1),
> USA
> > (5), Germany (2),
> > Italy (1), Belgium (2), UK(1) and Austria (1) plus
> some
> > others. The styles
> > of all these artists are all very different which
> makes it
> > very interesting
> > imo; it's a mix of World, Jazz, Ambient,
> Avant-Garde
> > and Live Electronics.
> > The official names will be announced asap.
> >
> > Festival format - The format will be the same as on
> the
> > Cologne festival of
> > May 31, 2008 (organized by Michael Peters). This means
> > artists have 30
> > minute maximum each. And as it looks now we'll
> have
> > about 10 acts which
> > means a 6 hour show.
> >
> > Finances - =A0I can't promise compensation for the
> > artists but....profits
> > generated from the bar, ticket sales, booklets and
> > hopefully
> > sponsors/subsidies will be used to pay the artists. I
> think
> > this is a fair
> > proposal.
> >
> > Other eurol= oopfest.com festivals - I'm in contact
> with
> > other LD members to
> > coordinate additional festivals in Europe around June
> 2009.
> > I can't give you
> > the details yet (I want to leave that to the
> responsible
> > festival organizers
> > himself) but I thought I was important enough to let
> you
> > know Antwerp will
> > probably not the only city in Europe having a live
> looping
> > festival in 2009!
> >
> >
> > What I need from you - If you'd like to keep your
> slot
> > on the Antwerp live
> > looping festival, please send an email to
> > sjaak@euroloopfest.com<= /a>
> > <mailto:sjaak@eurolo= opfest.com> =A0. Keep in mind
> this
> > is a still a
> > preliminary reservation; I just want to know if you
> are
> > still seriously
> > interested. I'll send you another email in
> March/April
> > which will be the
> > confirmation to perform on the festival.
> >
> > If you want, you can already send me some info:
> >
> > 1) Short musical biography and description of your
> act,
> > instruments you play
> >
> >
> > 2) Mp3 and jpeg material (links are fine) I can use
> for
> > official promotion
> > and the website
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks and I hope to hear from you
> >
> >
> > Sjaak Overgaauw
> > Festival organizer
> > European loopfestival 2009 =A0- Antwerp
> >
> > livelooping.b= e <http://w= ww.livelooping.be/> =A0/
> > euroloopfes= t.com
> > <ht= tp://www.euroloopfest.com/>







--
Raul Bonell at Blogger:= http://raulbonell.blogspot.com<= /a>
Chain Tape Collective: http= ://www.ct-collective.com

--0015174c398a5189f9046550aeb9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 13:52:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D2AD3BE8B; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SpFmLX6PlJ4bxeOCABZYQym5FZcOClN5eH1ApIrvC3s=; b=ZSP9xWOBChvDAWp8OOgZon3kBXJQQ0C+/pIXjUp40EulRIB5bv1os+TMlsvTa327eI y6b4SOtIx4gQlD2FfbrQg2TdBZnQf/hqaKAlhKR/PNGd3bK7cDu0CsbHJPGEG3zZmUO6 WWIbVsk7USkhrMj+mKahAFfNJv84Cn2y/dgrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=Wed0U0PeAYFCFDuzqly5bXxaxM/jUt711FFhJvYSr015x9lYdErjaQ9KmOtQN3Eh2l dDQIoxGnw9869PffRChcSD30leEtn5fCAUh5eKYsGQ9MW1P+xyB2aU8cVOBVZgerL6oO mPm0N3Qah/sdMifsUFH1I1oSbo0gpNAH/a/5I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:52:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 235baa087fcecb6b Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Gig recording From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502dfc54ed710046550df19 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:52:06 +0000 (UTC) --00504502dfc54ed710046550df19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recording and pics from my recentish gig... http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=433 -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00504502dfc54ed710046550df19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recording and pics from my recentish gig...

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--00504502dfc54ed710046550df19-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 13:57:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C8483BE8B; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: beautiful minimal tasty connected Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:57:03 +0100 Message-ID: <002801c9a708$40a39890$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> Thread-Index: AcmnB7zd5pdfYHH5Q4mAtouXqqPu9QAAHK0w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.116; VDF: 7.1.2.179) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:57:12 +0000 (UTC) > Wolfgang Muthspiel *(guitar and loop) > *Brian Blade *(drums) - FRIENDLY TRAVELERS LIVE very nice. What kind of guitar is that? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 14:05:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFBBB3BE80; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=PoxiparJQVGFeK8qCWwmnC4eETftRVz5YtEQ6vVLWYE=; b=Pj+Al361dZ1Sp9aLByQLayIbn+4cCjXkaRf1Wun0SjSuvq0QHrXqWPBcW1zZswlVIc Bd5B8uQZQjnhCHpG8aANYhgxt3UlraCLcy7ezOO29zsqRcF1nyNPyglyx6bC0mSS2i8A k5Avr+7z/gvNU6vjEB02VayYKpr458MRYnY/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=NhiqxOAZ9rK7Wz0oKjHzli+v8SRljBFX9qNyOFqAOyLy8HRnt25tbZM8FsGxxCy1bR tAAYEpg3Yc0LlocSRm7s8egRmF1rrJUQMPmLQLB4vZZHzli0qK9HtH8xpKpwIoguEv9I XUl7CSCg01pHod1m11V0UftPjARCgMyfo03zk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:05:42 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <7SWN2B.A.SHE.346vJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:05:43 +0000 (UTC) Excellent! Thanks Rick. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > 'nuff said! > * > Wolfgang Muthspiel *(guitar and loop) > *Brian Blade *(drums) - FRIENDLY TRAVELERS LIVE > > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIkT7TY0P8W4 > > > _ps =A0 thanks to Jerome Deupree (a great and unique Boston area drummer = in > his own right) > for recommending =A0this clip to me_ > _ > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 14:46:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8065E3BE84; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=DOD0UL1JGGM7+NLJUHQK1Bf6thHLJkvDQegD2znvrk8=; b=AEtxUs3Ckp+7XWJsX4vkQWf98PkQfvrgPph2fX5L1YUroJBe8v156knWzfglomBHKu XJ7HE7kvMIYzoib+1g4BqpNfSZIbNcBKmM0bcmsK8xfnBDqwlXHmsJurcP1EcfGMbWnh G1QxWCPRPQPpEIxDT+dtApdJVVTE8NcNSe5do= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=c13MKSuV2EQsiZlpsQ4ZlnS7tUcobLFWRaWdbNx+4p6md4h541XorU6T6y6Jk+fj2E 0GvQahKsdkBII6pxNLOlRGrEQ/PKjq7p3QlLTGfKPyMlDRwPgbhnIX8ZDmjVCSB0zWkJ 13AyOEV3yKTkr3scUpnNeZGyIQbMdpaz1fTPo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:46:28 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gig recording From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC) That was really nice. 2009/3/17 mark francombe : > Recording and pics from my recentish gig... > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=433 > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 15:15:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03D8B3BE81; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CRPPtQrpErTbRhA3APAdrNJfStcBNpcKjwtuviKMlFc=; b=pbEoDHImHHOIWMi7WkmWBEAkFl8gvKMVck5mteKzIzno8JEde5MAeqfIdJda1JFqmw RCDDyiJ5AtfcYYgI1SlY1QJnGn9zV/YvKTrQluNuSmIGnN2u9WZdAZDEMGIU5bOz0Ta1 /ioRYOCitPQoEvnWtHV+G8ycp+QfnTKJxeu5A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=rgVRayuLb9WE4fPMATSu6uZqgk1kmqF1fNKhNlRxb8GJldlp99tjiMYXTJNBVvt1K7 2jPa6R7R3wcTRT6KJDlj0YjuFlUPEnhx7U0ixW0VXy3sDmILmt+hC14q0iHPOgx+IySq OTKrp1Xul8L3ZbJOePjrdLU+OqsdtOvAkiezg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:15:12 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903170815v3c2616f3tca91dc40494dfc6e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6adaaa044960465520885 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:15:13 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6adaaa044960465520885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Super sweet! On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > 'nuff said! > * > Wolfgang Muthspiel *(guitar and loop) *Brian Blade *(drums) - FRIENDLY > TRAVELERS LIVE > > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkT7TY0P8W4 > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd6adaaa044960465520885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Super sweet!

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:46= PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
'nuff said!
*
Wolfgang Muthspiel *(guitar and loop) *Brian Blade *(drums) - FRIENDLY TRAV= ELERS LIVE

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIkT7TY0P8W4

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--000e0cd6adaaa044960465520885-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 15:23:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 381473BE86; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IPm5H395x8vcKIpxyEEQzhKaivYq0FwYF/tyBjiuLeg=; b=rOC1pB/a2m97eqwfFFZDeYmNmhwWPjnPwt+fPskTKBq6UeueKLfg4blZLwS4QbEOa5 YFZNpOOG1a5oFfD3pGMJkVVybhSob+qfJGtP59++N2cre2zx/0sGXVdVOsCzPFfX99iH WMoEPAeZ/Fv9OPiVwNUbvjkEp4AaBjgvoChU8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JB5co7uAzbnnT0y397R7WIGZagTSPhr0N+PrZmPTacxIF5FDuVrcgB+zcycFmuAVA9 hIZYrCUUiDVCCQepT4DtAWD+xP0qGrmhdiP0hkz0lvV5gJzgrBxpUaWPx8XfO6FVnnyd NVkack5VqDZE35L9NaL9BIOXQus6cfRMV5bKQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000c01c9a69e$b23fd0a0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <215258.42788.qm@web110204.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <000c01c9a69e$b23fd0a0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:23:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903170823h37b6d253mb9f9f9d77aba9222@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT That 'sizzle sound' of Mp3s From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd305a8ece671046552266b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:23:42 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd305a8ece671046552266b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saw Hendirx with Soft Machine and The Animals at Anaheim Convention Center on their first tour. 69 possibly? Also saw him at the L.A. Forum after Axis Bold as Love . . . Voodoo Chile indeed. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Oh yeah! I saw them and Hendrix in 69. the Denver Pop Festival. Like > yesterday, lol > Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd305a8ece671046552266b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Saw Hendirx with Soft Machine and The Animals at Anaheim Convention Center = on their first tour.=A0 69 possibly?=A0 Also saw him at the L.A. Forum afte= r Axis Bold as Love . . . Voodoo Chile indeed.

On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:<= br>
Oh yeah! I saw them and Hendrix in 69.= the Denver=20 Pop Festival. Like yesterday, lol
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Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
&= quot;Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
--000e0cd305a8ece671046552266b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 17:53:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38D063BE86; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 315429.20955.bm@omp221.mail.ukl.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1237312413; bh=VZXIv7C2yPVUJgg6YEOLNFRf7filOdc/4h9dzZ1xAW4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4Wyu97v+eZdFVMUrVjiba+S6DjudzYu/DGrIbWzelaJcLrAGCR9pkxk1f7hkZ4GGy8aJrbTcGU0+j3mJufntW1lcCskwqG44lc2EjghXGvhO33bIM6Xsn/DZ+VuT1F3NS0LrehpYKKKVneq6xL66O2kCBP7rGrFsKwnLB2T5q1w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0HRScDnbz0BvvVZA8P97JvTKf0b5zClVfUaNgO1yz9C7zohOJbSWzhhVHQLftbgooDsH/keeNWOJXl/6xhGtwf+umzJ06J0s3vh9DICxoWGgmVpHLtDexKn2FJX81FUzQDijAtBdZbWMFs8Gn1/IzCbnO+TrtN5N3g5/UhGCa08=; Message-ID: <949858.73255.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7MoF0A4VM1l22dXCvghZcG0a3sryDcz8DBRP.YEWahUv_EjBNaQxCuqdmGICcSS0RILvtR8Q.GJrmWk3d42VMdQdQZ2mL8F56ygCFbvLvpQe1tmI91gFHrD.ndEvEy.BHYTLd79pZv_VA6RAV6qnezPPuL4u0ptz6k4m2rFoFy7XOxTxba.iebsuJoDJildGtbu9pQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:53:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gig recording To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:53:35 +0000 (UTC) REALLY beautiful music Mark. Kipple-Monger is a new expression to me, some interesting 'Kipple' referenc= es discovered on Wiki. Stephen www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher --- On Tue, 17/3/09, mark francombe wrote: > From: mark francombe > Subject: Gig recording > To: "loopers-delight" > Date: Tuesday, 17 March, 2009, 1:52 PM > Recording and pics from my recentish gig... >=20 > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=3D433 >=20 > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch=0A=0A=0A = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 18:30:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 446A73BE8A; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZW3OZsa4UnCcBlOSuoYidiQOYS7xxnGzWsWbuTmbI3A=; b=KXHbEgTqbaFjSYgaOSUNhRq38pKY/tWD97bQtVLvdi1LB9rvrZWdEgaOmopLHAiZyX maX1lfpmJo54XaGM7T32hzb5W4buRyxTd3CJYD+O+gC4gfG3ZmlQo/+BX6h9d0Mu8W9e 0L4kapEQb4lOUqyRzjWeQ3jRTCIoEuXhgRpaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gUIUWHtD3M71RizAtWs3fx1OlFVw7QDSoSIv+O4WnY3EUPktpl5mZE/b8v61feuu+u lLtACWrt7LxV9LkGO5blxtZ6t/pjJ8TVBq9hbaHHbq0J4A/DQBOiB3t1F9WrZGC63Cbd h/fTWLsiuaj6b9e+kvk2/ZtBOoHbkNzmw9iLM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:30:41 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903171130s641db927uba49f84f54b4bcec@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?MIDI_Foot_controller_=28FCB1010=29_configuration_f=FCr_Re?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?peater_OS2?= From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:30:43 +0000 (UTC) Hey Repeater users everywhere, any Repeater OS version 2 users who'd like to share how they did configure their MIDI foot controller (e.g. FCB1010) to make use of the new features? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 19:10:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D17563BE86; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 353 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:10:48 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rPn9eC7KIdVKw3PhYGfOzMUxbvMPM2T6B2FwoJeC2E8=; b=R2exAyBizdxHk5fwbuANXkm0yTUo1DxygRP1ajmEvv9+scg/uBPF1BagMCYoMYMgou /T0G7inf8+XJUGgTOjhnnHGS3YpDNF0hKfT9JopTxqLBiAQhL1dQNwXLcYHiJvdCe4X0 XX75whX6I0tyGgQJUSoHVtJ1+hsob4P0/qinY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=JWO4NtMac1X18M9SSMuDTEiHumCboqmlHBZp0tZyfKyuthFRZQCo2PxbBJ7DI+yINJ w8USOX+wfadP6BcSSn7sV7nC8e8h8JC5aUgquQrTO8Dx8kLelqekoYTRwmUz9payyvjF suuSYlF2ox7x/i/R9Jze3U0mB7pp15a8wE0Nc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903171130s641db927uba49f84f54b4bcec@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903171130s641db927uba49f84f54b4bcec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:04:54 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_MIDI_Foot_controller_=28FCB1010=29_configuration_f=FC?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?r_Repeater_OS2?= From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd246c609ec030465553ea9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:10:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd246c609ec030465553ea9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit depends what you wanna do, rainer...there are a lot of options, so you need to be selective! On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: > Hey Repeater users everywhere, > > any Repeater OS version 2 users who'd like to share how they did > configure their MIDI foot controller (e.g. FCB1010) to make use of the > new features? > > Rainer > > --000e0cd246c609ec030465553ea9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable depends what you wanna do, rainer...there are a lot of options, so you need= to be selective!

On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at= 6:30 PM, Rainer Straschill <moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey Repeater users everywhere,

any Repeater OS version 2 users who'd like to share how they did
configure their MIDI foot controller (e.g. FCB1010) to make use of the
new features?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer


--000e0cd246c609ec030465553ea9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 19:15:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 049A43BE86; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237317323; bh=az58Mfc6KIgPP6tFiWc10DP8y1vBvoB3TJBkAPm77HA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3Olv3AMUYUfNVAZO1bkGKYkF2IQlUrOHfUCkphgNtbG+ojMHrAGX21Qpfg53QaAf3qz2+cmL309ZcL72LVvydqUhczCuz15Xe/Je+/TvCQ75JIh8iYy64J40oVjjCkp4j2IZQQB9YTHmzD0EP7s0M4OW+1yCvPiKAB4p/KvZ+Fo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vMzd5TrPbfqCf/tfDg3QkPLTf+tQ7K8Ov1GY3Ds/UyCri8/QSKu8okNwsa1g/VAUyDyVwGCFcoLujGGCkfseSajVhEP3VmVO+ocA80iGnXSfD2qMddzhQuy/cmpQOnDFd589s9FgS5GnGJJSqgrcDsPGew2BgnE92FmIQ3c2G9A=; Message-ID: <945690.61950.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vd23WDwVM1lhlnV6WtKKYz5TKa02u2UjxhFgElcLNiuLLfifwNo8TMLZi7rMWlDo7Xv01bSVs4nZEqRa6bvl3y5GOFY2ay6.7U5jYkW5B7jRcKqVO7ypzyFvjNVUCRa3s7QvB.lhhnqhZ9qQ4pEHGnJTAHO802dqOqX9YAA9pMwH1mZIl5.d2JSYiC_nfQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:15:23 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Reply-To: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: OT: why no love for noel redding? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1070677498-1237317323=:61950" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:15:24 +0000 (UTC) --0-1070677498-1237317323=:61950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow-i read this and thought "why no love for noel?" he was a young kid (ear= ly 20's if?) who thought he was auditioning for the new animals (house of t= he rising son), and got thrown in the world of JHE. i thought he was a good= bass player for the experience. yes, i know there are arguments on the 2nd= & 3rd albums that jimi played a lot of the bass stuff (i'm not up on my ev= erything jimi did history in the last 10 yrs or so), but give the guy a bre= ak. he was just playing the bass in the band, he wasn't responsible for the= recording and mixing. WHEN I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old, = IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. when i still listen to this now that i've hit mid= 40s-i'm amazed at the maturity of the writing and the adventurous nature o= f the music-all done by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and remem= ber the lead singer/composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of 50's era ed= ucation-& he was african american-a lot of the odds were against him!). that, and the fact that the guy got shafted for his part of what he= contributed, and he died a few yrs ago at such a young age (wasn't he in h= e mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please! end of my rant... s--- =C2=A0 Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep,=20 > Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for=20 > the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch= =20 > Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m =0A=0A=0A --0-1070677498-1237317323=:61950 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
wow-i read this and thought "why no love= for noel?" he was a young kid (early 20's if?) who thought he was audition= ing for the new animals (house of the rising son), and got thrown in the wo= rld of JHE. i thought he was a good bass player for the experience. yes, i = know there are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums that jimi played a lot= of the bass stuff (i'm not up on my everything jimi did history in the las= t 10 yrs or so), but give the guy a break. he was just playing the bass in = the band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and mixing. WHEN I LISTEN= TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old, IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. when i sti= ll listen to this now that i've hit mid 40s-i'm amazed at the maturity of t= he writing and the adventurous nature of the music-all done by 3 guys who w= ere still in their early 20s (and remember the lead singer/composer-was a H= S dropout, and a product of 50's era education-& he was african american= -a lot of the odds were against him!). that, and the fact that the guy got = shafted for his part of what he contributed, and he died a few yrs ago at s= uch a young age (wasn't he in he mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please!=
end of my rant...
s---
 
Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, =
> Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (fo= r
> the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfyin= g. Mitch
> Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book= ! -m

=0A=0A --0-1070677498-1237317323=:61950-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 19:33:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 186133BE80; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <1F113998-C591-4322-91D5-0FB2C5E3EDE8@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: FS: Gear Odds and Ends Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:33:15 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:33:17 +0000 (UTC) Trying to clear out some stuff that I have no use for anymore. Thought I'd post here before going to ebay. Ebtech Hum Eliminator: $35 Samson S-Direct DI Box: $20 Samson Stereo S-Direct DI Box: $25 2 Monster Cable rack "snakes" (8 cables held together by an outer rubber sleeve): $40/each ART ProVerb: $30 Prices include shipping in the CON US. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 19:36:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 380343BE86; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hkSb6b3H7TM1sD2/e6LXP/tk54j48WAAEFTQJk9AMIg=; b=TEOXcujMCFXZGj+BM3fHLbKgQSIxe5OfwfXbbc1z48Wpvqh3us8TkwfnN3IHA7K58y pVxdNDU9eVy/x8TZkQbcbsggFTxAn4aFN5qlOchuecksQVVIHb551ooxckIjYYlOw46w OPMCWA0x6PwXIpna4xtJ//BP4TojLx155KclU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=um3kACvrS4GTCoYpQ+rXLiLmrebJ0M1zOPCRNUJmgV3GiymdYyNfysqi+iKpghwq83 J83dQXjvv21YrUmD03VyVpbRqjHii8+zW1TDod0HtJamQVxQEp9kmtg9bWGt1wQfwFx5 pzXiSxtna524OrnWIfobVrEqtFenug6+bGeNw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002801c9a708$40a39890$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> <002801c9a708$40a39890$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8krDnD.A.k6E.Gv_vJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:36:38 +0000 (UTC) > very nice. What kind of guitar is that? I think it's one of these... http://www.megatar.com/english/home.html -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 19:43:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63F583BE8A; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=pr0MBAdEzjw5s2cBE2pAZgQm+I0LjC9mZ9hb2cQQ3jY=; b=xsdADi0uY/7ohds71pl5ZMVLBh8BpMsQqmrEk4ztKp/6ItPi22lAoKn+GyZ/sRbWJK //A+wbpg0RP5GKKtCF3Dq+L0lxXj0ZHZtB/atbbIBpXCoeVI+ZsnrzCmSR1WKfhBU5pg /UKldajm33rWGduorA23eFrR/2ydtmuw9kzyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VXo4nB96WWbdZNiNuUY9YgJKUpjZGssHl2YV6vR34Zd+WJPUn0ZWYc0cGYD5/2b71k T+vx7dHybyhBOMyYmo5N8pIayRaeFjve0x+bTOMobklpH+K/xmG//XRiTJSYa87Mto5q GsSEA94gErVq+tgIRzxW1AIUDFSdHppdBQZ5g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <949858.73255.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> <949858.73255.qm@web24604.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:43:43 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903171243h2f1ee3e8u1a495128e4665e57@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gig recording From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6IoPOB.A.tNF.w1_vJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:43:44 +0000 (UTC) From: mark francombe >> Recording and pics from my recentish gig... >> >> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=433 >> Sounds interesting! Wish I was there to hear it live. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 19:53:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03BC93BE8A; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MWGZOx8Z9QV0jB7o8hFrD5uIGP7HmbMWnZmfzNmDg90=; b=ceITq9ij6C7qaANVj5cM1/1Rx93vYZsULPHoQe453HqW2PlkDfVc8JmV2FCg/c72DC w+a9kuMwIf+3W+CoMtYKIrD/q1JFZKBd/I7HJJaFQUaAg7rTlY+izdnROjSq+guimqE8 5NoicD7CVG1Ckg07YkeVa1crrIhlDrgfCfvBw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=MJf78VfUoc1lzHkmIDHnrS04rVfndpDUdGTeAl1D8dlH7NIJYxL245TZvSq0vEZcUI RFIQXjKRWzVXm3a7OTVxlV9sgMwiP4tsanmDV1lJmsSD54m8xy7c647XzJtEaqoFppJm W/rxEDANsCMAlnFoXw18WMW+BgYWspkVXCSgg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0903171130s641db927uba49f84f54b4bcec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:53:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d373608a93ad84ee Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903171253p4d90d595k42f395db4e641c18@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_MIDI_Foot_controller_=28FCB1010=29_configuration_f=FC?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?r_Repeater_OS2?= From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bdc413abd1046555ebda Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:53:18 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bdc413abd1046555ebda Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didnt do anything actually... alot of the new features (that I use) involve selecting a track, holding down the button while you do something else (stop play reverse) so... Im not sure what I could do with the pedal. Ive always found repeater totally UNresponsive to useing the pedal, so I always just record a blank bar using the transport controls and then overdub onto it, using pedals... I have one FCB bank for usual stuff play rec undo rev and a switch and pedal for the slow down trick, I did have somewhere some kindo of skip button to move a track section thru its slip values, but maybe I never got that to wirk... also I have the "Mini keyboard" mapped to one specific track on another bank, tuned to a scale of some sort a pentamixolydian minor 7th if my memory serves me correctly. mark On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Simeon Harris < simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > depends what you wanna do, rainer...there are a lot of options, so you need > to be selective! > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Rainer Straschill < > moinsound@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Repeater users everywhere, >> >> any Repeater OS version 2 users who'd like to share how they did >> configure their MIDI foot controller (e.g. FCB1010) to make use of the >> new features? >> >> Rainer >> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5bdc413abd1046555ebda Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I didnt do anything actually... alot of the new features (that I use) invol= ve selecting a track, holding down the button while you do something else (= stop play reverse) so... Im not sure what I could do with the pedal. Ive al= ways found repeater totally UNresponsive to useing the pedal, so I always j= ust record a blank bar using the transport controls and then overdub onto i= t, using pedals... I have one FCB bank for usual stuff play rec undo rev an= d a switch and pedal for the slow down trick, I did have somewhere some kin= do of skip button to move a track section thru its slip values, but maybe I= never got that to wirk... also I have the "Mini keyboard" mapped= to one specific track on another bank, tuned to a scale of some sort a pen= tamixolydian minor 7th if my memory serves me correctly.

mark



On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at = 8:04 PM, Simeon Harris <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> depends what you wanna do, rainer...there are a lot of options, so you need= to be selective!


On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Rainer Straschill <moin= sound@googlemail.com> wrote:
Hey Repeater user= s everywhere,

any Repeater OS version 2 users who'd like to share how they did
configure their MIDI foot controller (e.g. FCB1010) to make use of the
new features?

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer





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http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancom= be
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--001636c5bdc413abd1046555ebda-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 21:03:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 139E63BE84; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :x-mailer; bh=kr2V89TCs7QUOXw4OS80gT+AMfWtalrR9GbHu/uat0E=; b=fTGyKiPZsnZAoy0K7bztbwpfiEICd+oZ/5uLb89hRg6s5BWTSmqzwAm5LzwDmz3gLt vAc2WLeAdCPMiJ/irSLQU92/3LQyamjsYhYPCoWVTWzitKAPs1V8bI/pRloo7gcNYNUX TM9tJl1ctEpDWsAbYvNWV/oLe1YuyoXYx/sUg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer; b=HIjmwoaEsIX6Oi/NDtPvEDqScMI0pubpslcZIhg26Wfrvdjk0m9jLg/OaGMwQHDSiB cao8fFwkIrbdNLgjgNS4Aw/cpRVVKgPxFxh0bCErrp1p2QGj2fUIRU6xKz0J7aeMY/x3 LSN4f5HfsyeGKIDAZsFKmmb3zU7VOLNf65NFM= Message-Id: <058C14B6-8E0C-4956-804A-35A5E0EC6519@gmail.com> From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: new videos: live soundtrack for sundown at lake! Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:02:50 -0300 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Around 2001 I played a series of performances at sundown on the esplanade of lake Greifensee, Switzerland. Its a fantastic experience to create a live soundtrack on looping guitar for the biggest and never repeating show on this planet :-). The material was mostly edited in 2003 but we could not finish it due to iMovie problems. Now its finally at http://youtube.com/matigrob the sound has very few edits: in the first part I glued 2 different pieces together in the second part I took 2 short bits out, should not be noticable I could not find anything similar on the net yet ;-) enjoy! Matthias From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 21:05:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 342263BE84; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:05:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=yOZJGeWT3p4GePBsvLyuhC5azsA+otB3kRjufLBYJa8=; b=vqwSevRvPUDhiopIvabb9qC6p9y4xXawnYYYKTnDfDq3cEYYOLGykWpDB3aHNzGffp sXGWwaqv0VDe9BPd4OYWCO1ae+iRQCIoIeRxbV44jq8qiYUzL8YEW5LBCvT5FKYhjwJX ek/q+U35uVqaUtmZ7/6oH697BO5vLFm61f49Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fwl2/Wqp8DfcgPKem3kmXG54pMlOpuoz9Psqg422av1IpGVdEnQUmp+oGsKqoVcZps 2ZkwFkPRsbcUAHsbX/iz5LRT5XMt6hfC51ViuROc0vNSzuvoVFOVDxCl3pG4Qm6iFKRR JBt+iYi0LFrPkKQmjo4sMLfeK/S/MbtjIpgVg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> <002801c9a708$40a39890$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4A0A82F2-57D0-4F39-8255-873030D3DDAF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:05:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:05:15 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Tony K wrote: > I think it's one of these... > > http://www.megatar.com/english/home.html I think it looks more like a pricier version of this: http://tinyurl.com/crh9x9 with an upgraded neck and electronics. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j Flickr set http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 21:13:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 881E03BE8A; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bA07cX3YJtmmNClpm8Tu2oyncVK8/19BBMccqtH/B60=; b=hXp5Q9+Vr8Rq367JdMKz8uLB30Ial4XXHEfRtkoM2M9bUek8EJ4Swur3ysVOsxY+pR 1nUxmqIdjjYfD09LDOYI6MFyw1dXd6MExtmofcPAE/zWBjA3v/v5PuSsChe9ptO13+Vp duFB/o34op5/5K/Zpwb10/7/VuKEFPWo5Kccs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iU1n90QQbzHg/UWfM8Te0XCqiSmvRKzNj4r5WBgu0DISI1XKqWPxovBoswSGRa+Ggn h4Q7XHZ1tebBSAGX/nFAMVe9/N4uMvARRPHUS0/9XsIb9jid882zD6lVFslQ/24ktR2M zO9ZlKNiXvkxS5PARa96/0sBKlvsprNCvPu3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4A0A82F2-57D0-4F39-8255-873030D3DDAF@gmail.com> References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> <002801c9a708$40a39890$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <4A0A82F2-57D0-4F39-8255-873030D3DDAF@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 17:13:20 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, after watching again, I don't think it is a Megatar. Wonder what it = is. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:05 PM, RP Collier wrote: > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Tony K wrote: > >> I think it's one of these... >> >> http://www.megatar.com/english/home.html > > > I think it looks more like a pricier version of this: > > http://tinyurl.com/crh9x9 > > with an upgraded neck and electronics. > > regards > > BobC > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j =A0Flickr set > > http://www.youtube.com/tynego > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 17 21:32:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 902FE3BE80; Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:32:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vyO0kR3VScsLSpNaplBSeBwMZXtann3b0T2rUdMo7Ls=; b=sxq6METOsMQ7F59H9bx5Kd99YDZTAU7qH5gvEg5iwuhrt/5/hg7G9hr8qWmKcL9ZBP rkkH9aRf4CdFOz9tNdGqXtwQ+uBjhhIa42RrTiZlOupMNNJrpE9xsqGKm5IW2nykEd7I 4/3F1vx9d0Th1y6CZnN3DMIb1AkD4UQ+H8TGo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wfJrRxt4O8AbDXTUjbqSyTekimHGk3jWh4fGvZOIv6T6PhwouBTVXDIBI3ZSUs6GcG KeGbcfbShunkzE55uaLN1LZuqQexOTVtkeGUnHOrU8/kniehJ/t1gd55Cxuq0OHRXWbm I+RMYhNUfSczv6uySLRAmeDcujkMM6SAB38WU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <945690.61950.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <945690.61950.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:32:31 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903171432r47798328v5d4004c3ae281f4e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: why no love for noel redding? From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6ec92fced2e0465574dfa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:32:33 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd6ec92fced2e0465574dfa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This has nothing to do with my personal feelings for Noel=97it's impersonal= . It doesn't matter who played the parts (but I guess the player had to have = a name, so I used it.) Realize that I LOVE the entire band and have unbelieveable, life-changing memories surrounding my first-hand witness of the music. (Meaning I was there to see it=97first tour, second tour) But w= hen I sit down in front of the monitors and listen, I have perceptions I'm not going to ignore due to personal bias. There are always considerations regarding how one ended up with xyz (whatever results followed)=97but the resulting document still has specific sonic qualities. Just my humble, honest opinion. Would it be safe to say Hendrix was sometimes a very sloppy player? *-) (Ducking NOW!) To cleanse any sullifying damage my sacriligous statements may have caused, I command you all to go home and watch "Jimi Plays Berkeley" tonight and revel in absolutely amazing, skronky, beautific, Hendrix bliss. Be sure to add plenty of your favorite beverage or potion. -m On 3/17/09, scott hansen wrote: > > wow-i read this and thought "why no love for noel?" he was a young kid > (early 20's if?) who thought he was auditioning for the new animals (hous= e > of the rising son), and got thrown in the world of JHE. i thought he was = a > good bass player for the experience. yes, i know there are arguments on t= he > 2nd & 3rd albums that jimi played a lot of the bass stuff (i'm not up on = my > everything jimi did history in the last 10 yrs or so), but give the guy a > break. he was just playing the bass in the band, he wasn't responsible fo= r > the recording and mixing. WHEN I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs > old, IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. when i still listen to this now that i've = hit > mid 40s-i'm amazed at the maturity of the writing and the adventurous nat= ure > of the music-all done by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and > remember the lead singer/composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of 50's > era education-& he was african american-a lot of the odds were against > him!). that, and the fact that the guy got shafted for his part of what h= e > contributed, and he died a few yrs ago at such a young age (wasn't he in = he > mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please! > end of my rant... > s--- > > Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, > > Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for > > the day)=97I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch > > Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m > > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd6ec92fced2e0465574dfa Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This has nothing to do with my personal feelings for Noel=97it's impersonal.=A0 It doesn't matter who played the parts (but I guess the player had to have a name, so I used it.)=A0 Realize that I LOVE the entire band and have unbelieveable, life-changing memories surrounding my first-hand witness of the music.=A0 (Meaning I was there to see it=97first tour, second tour) But when I sit down in front of the monitors and listen, I have perceptions I'm not going to ignore due to personal bias.

There are always considerations regarding how one ended up with xyz (whatever results followed)=97but the resulting document still has specific sonic qualities.=A0 Just my humble, honest opinion.=A0 Would it be safe to say Hendrix was sometimes a very sloppy player?=A0 *-)=A0 (Ducking NOW!)

To cleanse any sullifying damage my sacriligous statements may have caused, I command you all to go home and watch "Jimi Plays Berkeley&qu= ot; tonight and revel in absolutely amazing, skronky, beautific, Hendrix bliss.=A0 Be sure to add plenty of your favorite beverage or potion.=A0 -m

On 3/17/09, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote:
wow-i read this and thought "why no love for noel?" he was a young kid = (early 20's if?) who thought he was auditioning for the new animals (house of the rising son), and got thrown in the world of JHE. i thought he was a good bass player for the experience. yes, i know there are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums that jimi played a lot of the bass stuff (i'm not up on my everything jimi did history in the last 10 yrs or so), but give the guy a break. he was just playing the bass in the band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and mixing. WHEN I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old, IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. when i still listen to this now that i've hit mid 40s-i'm amazed at the maturity= of the writing and the adventurous nature of the music-all done by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and remember the lead singer/composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of 50's era education-& he was african american-a lot of the odds were against him!). that, and the fact that the guy got shafted for his part of what he contributed, and he died a few yrs ago at such a young age (wasn't he in he mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please!
end of my rant...
s---
=A0
Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, =
> Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (fo= r
> the day)=97I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfy= ing. Mitch
> Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m

--
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Biffoz@Gmail.com
MBiffle@= FoxRacingShox.com
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 00:07:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BB3F3BE80; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <10982.69.73.1237334841.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <058C14B6-8E0C-4956-804A-35A5E0EC6519@gmail.com> References: <058C14B6-8E0C-4956-804A-35A5E0EC6519@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:07:21 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: new videos: live soundtrack for sundown at lake! From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 00:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matt, Thanks for that. Sweet sounds. It's like a choir of seagulls. Andre On Tue, March 17, 2009 5:02 pm, Matthias Grob wrote: > Around 2001 I played a series of performances at sundown on the > esplanade of lake Greifensee, Switzerland. Its a fantastic experience > to create a live soundtrack on looping guitar for the biggest and > never repeating show on this planet :-). > > The material was mostly edited in 2003 but we could not finish it due > to iMovie problems. > > Now its finally at > http://youtube.com/matigrob > > the sound has very few edits: > in the first part I glued 2 different pieces together > in the second part I took 2 short bits out, should not be noticable > > I could not find anything similar on the net yet ;-) > enjoy! > Matthias > > Andre Donawa Barbados Guitar School Woodside Gardens Bay St. St. Michael Barbados 11157 Tel: 246-228-2480 (Office) 246 436 8294 (School) http://www.barbadosguitar.com http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 03:19:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D04593BE80; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xpy/87WxhTZ79PEhJ0jU7YAGXceAkzRuwkAFYQnk4S0=; b=XzlKWwuiK3CNwW8b1haPi+tf7uIBGoZrNWMuu6jsS1YcAL/BGZeM9JU1gtBZjnf+XG IVq2uDglmzbY6GsrwWJgzueTRYgihFOIyxiw1VwEVmV9QGfWjFlsddJInziy1yOzpP8u U6OX5VW7s11YCl9Cpk/GdBWsANLejmNUvLZxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fRGBo9DiHgRlIVEA1LM+mUO+f00aQ55/2JJVcpWvNjDJNoOE+pfOKv7E0EUwJcmrP4 sjlXedQV66caFgUyo/B7eJUi1wVQiL0IxMyUTPuokv+FgyLZvvpkSvE6ak+ED8wa03Gi 7fXHbjhj/64EsyWI5N6VGaTd9uHW2k+ooW/ts= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> References: <49BF1D18.9040102@cruzio.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 20:19:41 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903172019k163b14f2xe9e1306446bef47a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: beautiful minimal tasty connected From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4VrIiD.A.lrB.OhGwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Nice! Best thing I've heard in a while! Great Post Rick! -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 04:05:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E48F3BE81; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=3WwURvAA9aYXEhtr4utfgobIkmKghAxdKsTrU3JM7ms=; b=iRHvQ7NbEp+nre+dQnN2pFXL9cHOpwaHJ9lsgBE7ztOQWJGHiC/TtOJu2AGqitXbLc sXpi6NmSdQXgTfOoo1LvXnCtmlhLF6Z1ddI1wgQ7eot9RECsag5URjt9FY2GZ2smEj49 QAhsFoOGlw38UvzF/YzJlEv4QsMoDZuXQ+QeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ScPnpk1++DwA1MqzVtmaJUdMNoEWNA9jvJwCiPNT7fL+t4NYV2kBMeD84hcp4/MmFr EXy4CC9uNMmeaIjHaoM3UMxfU9MmDSXvtZhVb/fzHle1H2e/suUVP0mTC2cwsA3eJvVm br0I65UgQ0N61bsnQIuVMH3YS4zl6+Fs9ayHI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49BF61BE.907@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <37f071c00903161538i32b11469u8dbae9b0121dbef4@mail.gmail.com> <49BF61BE.907@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:05:30 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c00903172105g18c25666h71e99ed877602b5e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <65LzmD.A.FdD.MMHwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 04:05:32 +0000 (UTC) The SOS of the DD20 is really a bare bones looper. You press the pedal to record your first loop, press it again to close it and start it repeating. Press the pedal again and you record as long as you hold it down. No feedback control or undo so its really a one way kind of thing-forward to more. I think the delay modes are probably more suited to looping though they have been a bit tricky for me to get comfortable with. The simultaneous delays are pretty great in that you can record a phrase with say 90% feedback and move to the next delay bank. The original loop will repeat and slowly decay untouched by what you're now playing as that is being captured in the second delay bank. If you move forward once more though it terminates the first delay so you kind of need to time your feedback so you can move on without abruptly cutting off the delay (unless that's what you want). Of course once you advance to the next delay bank you're stuck with whatever settings you had before you moved on, there's no going backwards to change the settings. You can also use the on/off pedal to open and close a loop with the feedback set to 100% and mimic the SOS only with the option of bending down and adjusting the feedback to let the loop decay. You can also mess with the loop length by tapping a new tempo once you've got something going and that can get kind of interesting. I don't use it as much as I probably should but it has a lot of potential. For simple looping I really prefer the DL4 but I can see how if you learned the DD20 first if could really be one's primary looper. Kevin On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:39 AM, andy butler wrote= : > hi Kevin, > yep, I'm a Rolandophobe ;-) > > ...but now I remember Ted Killians killer dd20 moves. > > Only =A3110 + =A3psu inUK. > > At $219 + $psu in the US > > From what I heard on this list, the SOS mode wasn't up to much, > but the manual *suggests* it's possible to > > 1) tap in a loop > 2) overdub > 3) quickly erase loop and start another > > So in theory, it's a good alternative. > > Is there some hidden drawback to the SOS? > (i kind of remember there was, and that LDers prized =A0it for allowing 2 > simultaneous delays) > > > andy > > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >> >> You're missing the Boss DD20 which is also more delay than looper but >> has sound on sound and 23 seconds of delay with feedback control. >> $219 in the US. >> >> Kevin >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker wrote= : >>> >>> Okay, we are nearing a good list, here. >>> It would be great if someone would complete this list with prices >>> from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say this because prices >>> obviously >>> very greatly from the US to the UK alone) >>> >>> I purposefully didn't included pedals that are no longer in production >>> (but we could with their salient going prices-anyone feel like doing th= at >>> research?) >>> but I did include used laptop, reel to reel and cassette solutions. >>> >>> What are we missing anything? >> >> > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 08:42:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDB1B3BE86; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 165900484/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.169.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.169.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0CAD5QwElPTqmA/2dsb2JhbAAI0zaDfAaHLg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,383,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="165900484" Message-ID: <49C0B603.8040801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:51:15 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <37f071c00903161538i32b11469u8dbae9b0121dbef4@mail.gmail.com> <49BF61BE.907@tiscali.co.uk> <37f071c00903172105g18c25666h71e99ed877602b5e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <37f071c00903172105g18c25666h71e99ed877602b5e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > The SOS of the DD20 is really a bare bones looper. You press the > pedal to record your first loop, press it again to close it and start > it repeating. Press the pedal again and you record as long as you > hold it down. No feedback control or undo so its really a one way > kind of thing-forward to more. Thanks Kevin, that's a really neat review. I would add that a short press of the pedal erases the loop that's playing, with that feature the SOS becomes gigable. The thing is, are there any hidden difficulties with the SOS mode? (typical of Roland/Boss) >From the manual description, it *could* work smoothly as a "bare bones looper", or it might be that there's stuff like a gap before playback commences. I'm not familiar with the RC-20XL either, but I've seen a lot of people use it just to tap in single loops and overdub in a live situation. ..but all I hear about DD-20 is that the Delay Mode is more useful, no-one seems to actually use the SOS....which casts some doubt as to whether there's some problem with it. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 09:21:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86D543BE7E; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:21:14 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Andy wrote: > >From the manual description, it *could* work smoothly as a "bare > bones looper", or it might be that there's stuff like a gap > before playback commences. > ..but all I hear about DD-20 is that the Delay Mode is more useful, > no-one seems to actually use the SOS....which casts some doubt as > to whether there's some problem with it. The DD-20 was my first looper and I have used it for years. I never had g= ap issues in SOS mode or anything like that. But I especially liked it fo= r the analog and tape delay modes and feedback on 70-90% in combination w= ith the undocumented 2nd loop feature (see email of Kevin). The sound it = produces is rich and warm (no noise) and it's build like a tank. I sold m= ine yesterday for 150 Euro's + adapter. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 09:32:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEA5F3BE88; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=6uzyRCM3PR1KvShzn2f4bIMohR8SAxEsyDKvpbkfk1Cbk9dPLDQdJgA5VGowDRMm9qhMiwy4etzcbFHZTJgDFFzXMa3LD5dAK66dGYfxDYxCGO3PP2MloBd3sY+w0QTRuuM1qIaa2tV6D1UBKUGOBid6ydXMJ1bbtPziZq08kYI= ; X-YMail-OSG: pHPd0.sVM1nvkHokV8OW9UUJPNTiYyH08Bb3my9FtLJwx0FEBQrgKbWtgMihyJiJFdt4st.FJRnQGX9OgJhOBQWI0ytMU_cSfxexuISxF9RnAdSNz5Ef3xQT2kKprzPX.8t9sYFcNPlTorPSZ4XFvwDw_aItvn2WHiGHTVX6IddDWrrIid5_7v0osgcm8i_3oRChvSnpgYyN05dM17tXhhOvow-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <752226B81CFD4727A09A49D2DB40C960@a> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <058C14B6-8E0C-4956-804A-35A5E0EC6519@gmail.com> Subject: Re: new videos: live soundtrack for sundown at lake! Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:32:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:32:58 +0000 (UTC) Very nice, Matthias! Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" To: "Loop List" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: new videos: live soundtrack for sundown at lake! > Around 2001 I played a series of performances at sundown on the > esplanade of lake Greifensee, Switzerland. Its a fantastic experience > to create a live soundtrack on looping guitar for the biggest and > never repeating show on this planet :-). > > The material was mostly edited in 2003 but we could not finish it due > to iMovie problems. > > Now its finally at > http://youtube.com/matigrob > > the sound has very few edits: > in the first part I glued 2 different pieces together > in the second part I took 2 short bits out, should not be noticable > > I could not find anything similar on the net yet ;-) > enjoy! > Matthias > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.17/2007 - Release Date: 03/17/09 10:18:00 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 10:08:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A8CD3BE8C; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237370925; bh=iUcjeftLh6WZ6n326sQFvaPQKkH4oARRQo8Iq9eHsEE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yrynfBuXmTFvaNfp5CMo2Xe1jwtvuRyTskb13jAoupxuWB8euDihGfhMLf81wqoHX5wg5Ew8gK/Drq4OyBne//HkIYNZT3PMv+3M681JPCvTlEt4BYsxUIpw9yhQ9J8T3LfeKp4LvRBYEqqy75V9kULEnUJvj2X61IvFPSkgnSc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=LgPvjib0nYYWWKUuJDXD5peek1nFWVA93ifiKNFpRon2ZPxfN80JXWW4nbFoFYgEA7JwJAlfIGYOJCqRHwBk/MVzVOY3SxXV17gxOQobDJ3AIu6wo6XGz6YMb9DkUu3jU2BIwIvOsxx7HDAal2JPa482OB0K11oy6VT9BQKT9LM=; Message-ID: <597860.80862.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 67cjAKUVM1nWjTyJjdU7PYvoUdYwkR__mHA.5C.OsmdZVbc1rOhW.uMy7xQfb1Moy6xehPmo.yvhyebu0xyw_uzGYMHg6L7Av870JrK4D2rVBLRWiAh9m.9Kmt3e_xgczg6hGNuScWBI6c_ca331yFCBRKEr7dNtuZJtQdjREY2HQUUuF.IfftEN9H7s X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 03:08:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37f071c00903172105g18c25666h71e99ed877602b5e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <99tb3D.A.zRC.ugMwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:08:46 +0000 (UTC) sooooo here is another contender with dual switches: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4RCKLh09zVI&feature=3DPlayList&p=3DBF6F02B= 1D094378C&playnext=3D1&playnext_from=3DPL&index=3D3 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > From: Kevin Cheli-Colando > Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 9:05 PM > The SOS of the DD20 is really a bare bones looper. You > press the > pedal to record your first loop, press it again to close it > and start > it repeating. Press the pedal again and you record as long > as you > hold it down. No feedback control or undo so its really a > one way > kind of thing-forward to more. I think the delay modes are > probably > more suited to looping though they have been a bit tricky > for me to > get comfortable with. The simultaneous delays are pretty > great in > that you can record a phrase with say 90% feedback and move > to the > next delay bank. The original loop will repeat and slowly > decay > untouched by what you're now playing as that is being > captured in the > second delay bank. If you move forward once more though it > terminates > the first delay so you kind of need to time your feedback > so you can > move on without abruptly cutting off the delay (unless > that's what you > want). Of course once you advance to the next delay bank > you're stuck > with whatever settings you had before you moved on, > there's no going > backwards to change the settings. You can also use the > on/off pedal > to open and close a loop with the feedback set to 100% and > mimic the > SOS only with the option of bending down and adjusting the > feedback to > let the loop decay. >=20 > You can also mess with the loop length by tapping a new > tempo once > you've got something going and that can get kind of > interesting. >=20 > I don't use it as much as I probably should but it has > a lot of > potential. For simple looping I really prefer the DL4 but > I can see > how if you learned the DD20 first if could really be > one's primary > looper. >=20 > Kevin >=20 > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:39 AM, andy butler > wrote: > > hi Kevin, > > yep, I'm a Rolandophobe ;-) > > > > ...but now I remember Ted Killians killer dd20 moves. > > > > Only =A3110 + =A3psu inUK. > > > > At $219 + $psu in the US > > > > From what I heard on this list, the SOS mode > wasn't up to much, > > but the manual *suggests* it's possible to > > > > 1) tap in a loop > > 2) overdub > > 3) quickly erase loop and start another > > > > So in theory, it's a good alternative. > > > > Is there some hidden drawback to the SOS? > > (i kind of remember there was, and that LDers prized > =A0it for allowing 2 > > simultaneous delays) > > > > > > andy > > > > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> > >> You're missing the Boss DD20 which is also > more delay than looper but > >> has sound on sound and 23 seconds of delay with > feedback control. > >> $219 in the US. > >> > >> Kevin > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > >>> > >>> Okay, we are nearing a good list, here. > >>> It would be great if someone would complete > this list with prices > >>> from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say > this because prices > >>> obviously > >>> very greatly from the US to the UK alone) > >>> > >>> I purposefully didn't included pedals that > are no longer in production > >>> (but we could with their salient going > prices-anyone feel like doing that > >>> research?) > >>> but I did include used laptop, reel to reel > and cassette solutions. > >>> > >>> What are we missing anything? > >> > >> > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body > and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause > of all trouble. >=20 > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >=20 > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE > 3/01/09=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 10:41:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1BF3BE89; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:41:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mNVHF9BkpitNDkIv9cxTDKUeTGuaQQ8SPvLIx/iij3w=; b=Yp1KxWg5anCccUmDuHLhoQGENtP9sFoWFsip1rUzZC7k6DooP5w+fspjcIG3lVmyFm RXyxcIQTBoOsvv4R0HNGfV70g17fMz26+QmE7JF304yrZPeoHe3DNXmaRjfo8XM9EKR2 KOBLB8Mqc3OObppDIz+GmUawES2jfVJ4nh2bI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=LqPXufwZAZ+w6cZ68BzummY4s8w1B2DjyGzeTgVHj2KANmb8A8blkWcPU7OtFy842u TxqccT0ducPLg7PVLCe023rFUepRMap6LQ0GNoH1ZPuB/MN8FBv3uovreysja8iiiJYp gZvUo2CdfkYQ/Qv8X1Ga+ojXfF1GFIRMjOxms= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:41:27 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6c76766597a40134 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Gig recording From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:41:29 +0000 (UTC) good work Mark - that ending must've been pretty intense through a loud PA! os. 2009/3/17 mark francombe : > Recording and pics from my recentish gig... > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=433 > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 11:01:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E79813BE89; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <5b6301c9a7b8$def3f200$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gig recording Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:01:20 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Just got round to listening to this all the way through. Great stuff, Mark. It's really inspired me to get out and do some solo loping gigs, which I haven't done for a while. Steve Steve Moyes www.stevemoyes.org.uk www.creativemusic.org.uk www.creativemusic.blip.tv www.twitter.com/SteveMoyes ----- Original Message ----- From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Gig recording Recording and pics from my recentish gig... http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=433 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 11:25:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E106B3BE89; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:25:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 165384437/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.169.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.169.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0CAGR3wElPTqmA/2dsb2JhbAAIw0CPfIIxAwGBRwaHLg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,384,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="165384437" Message-ID: <49C0DC37.8050701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:34:15 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <597860.80862.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <597860.80862.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:25:22 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > sooooo here is another contender with dual switches: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RCKLh09zVI&feature=PlayList&p=BF6F02B1D094378C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom Nooooo....not another guitarist demoing an echo :-) Probably too expensive at £310, but looks interesting so downloaded the manual. 1) Manual won't download from site with I.E. , used Firefox... must be mac boys then :-) 2) From the manual "For the Looper, feedback is meaningless and so Fdbk A is used as a Decay Rate control for dubbing. " ...heart sinks to hear such talk, there's even an used knob available which could be used for FB 3) short looptime, but extendible at lower quality "Speed/Varispeed: When the Loop is Empty, the Speed control lets you select the record speed. The choices are: [SPD:2X] – Double speed. At this record speed, the maximum loop length is 6 seconds. [SPD:1X] – Normal speed. At this record speed, the maximum loop length is 12 seconds. [SPD:1/2] – Half speed. At this record speed, the maximum loop length is 24 seconds. [SPD:1/4] – Quarter speed. At this record speed, the maximum loop length is 48 seconds. " 4) this is more like it "After a loop is recorded, Varispeed controls the speed of Loop playback over a three octave range from two octaves down (25%) to one octave up (200%). Play Speed resolution is dependent on the setting of the Depth control" 5) Actually, the looper has 3 buttons, so easy to use. OD can be set to TOG or SUS, and if you'd rather you can set it to replace rather than OD. 6) Seems to have a re-trigger button. The looper function in this unit reminds of the DL4, except you don't get a delay as a bonus while you're looping. I'd guess they looked at the DL4 when designing it. As single loop looper with varispeed and replace it looks very useable, and it appears to be midi controllable. ..but at the price it's not exactly a bargain as a looper. In one of the vids, someone appears to be post processing the loop with the delays, couldn't find that in the manual. andy butler > > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > >> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando >> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 9:05 PM >> The SOS of the DD20 is really a bare bones looper. You >> press the >> pedal to record your first loop, press it again to close it >> and start >> it repeating. Press the pedal again and you record as long >> as you >> hold it down. No feedback control or undo so its really a >> one way >> kind of thing-forward to more. I think the delay modes are >> probably >> more suited to looping though they have been a bit tricky >> for me to >> get comfortable with. The simultaneous delays are pretty >> great in >> that you can record a phrase with say 90% feedback and move >> to the >> next delay bank. The original loop will repeat and slowly >> decay >> untouched by what you're now playing as that is being >> captured in the >> second delay bank. If you move forward once more though it >> terminates >> the first delay so you kind of need to time your feedback >> so you can >> move on without abruptly cutting off the delay (unless >> that's what you >> want). Of course once you advance to the next delay bank >> you're stuck >> with whatever settings you had before you moved on, >> there's no going >> backwards to change the settings. You can also use the >> on/off pedal >> to open and close a loop with the feedback set to 100% and >> mimic the >> SOS only with the option of bending down and adjusting the >> feedback to >> let the loop decay. >> >> You can also mess with the loop length by tapping a new >> tempo once >> you've got something going and that can get kind of >> interesting. >> >> I don't use it as much as I probably should but it has >> a lot of >> potential. For simple looping I really prefer the DL4 but >> I can see >> how if you learned the DD20 first if could really be >> one's primary >> looper. >> >> Kevin >> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 1:39 AM, andy butler >> wrote: >>> hi Kevin, >>> yep, I'm a Rolandophobe ;-) >>> >>> ...but now I remember Ted Killians killer dd20 moves. >>> >>> Only £110 + £psu inUK. >>> >>> At $219 + $psu in the US >>> >>> From what I heard on this list, the SOS mode >> wasn't up to much, >>> but the manual *suggests* it's possible to >>> >>> 1) tap in a loop >>> 2) overdub >>> 3) quickly erase loop and start another >>> >>> So in theory, it's a good alternative. >>> >>> Is there some hidden drawback to the SOS? >>> (i kind of remember there was, and that LDers prized >> it for allowing 2 >>> simultaneous delays) >>> >>> >>> andy >>> >>> Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: >>>> You're missing the Boss DD20 which is also >> more delay than looper but >>>> has sound on sound and 23 seconds of delay with >> feedback control. >>>> $219 in the US. >>>> >>>> Kevin >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Rick Walker >> wrote: >>>>> Okay, we are nearing a good list, here. >>>>> It would be great if someone would complete >> this list with prices >>>>> from both Southern and Northern Europe (I say >> this because prices >>>>> obviously >>>>> very greatly from the US to the UK alone) >>>>> >>>>> I purposefully didn't included pedals that >> are no longer in production >>>>> (but we could with their salient going >> prices-anyone feel like doing that >>>>> research?) >>>>> but I did include used laptop, reel to reel >> and cassette solutions. >>>>> What are we missing anything? >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body >> and to have a >> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause >> of all trouble. >> >> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) >> >> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE >> 3/01/09 > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 12:59:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3B6C3BE88; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=FNGK2hJyf+xzW8f16awV0cDONaate2a5NgX0Fafjj9E=; b=p7kFBNdqnKrqr356cs3IAgZAQNuCTADZpeE7oDdepGGOdpzRxLDZaZlKizhQ3UAH1f 2yEpNXWJl3FfuvSLyVoV0z50rjRQKqcZ9NXEjJU8qabagISNAy8CPL6sbmCdm04g7K6Q GSRN+Dg8Lt+T2FujpEQ36sr00tFoo63i1F06Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZloqjDqJRDPo5AZfrGRbo0UHAy5h+qywpNfpMHtDm+CNtCFNxY3Jx98sTWaFFQd1oP 2FNhMe3sDSatCD++x5az7G0aGCAfkB6j/gsX/O4ScKgcsNdVpUav4M8DyotuCOmKItMN jbmmqdwaPxQYYfV2ftK7zi+7ngNJdqZyQ1Po4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:54:42 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Virtual repeater From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517503bbaed4cf00465642f98 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:59:52 +0000 (UTC) --001517503bbaed4cf00465642f98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi list, I'm new around here and new to looping in general. I would like to get my hands on a virtual repeater, but I'm not even sure if the software ever went on sale... from what I can read on the net the software was being launched in fall 2007 and Electrix went under in early 2008. Did any copies of the software ever ship? Can it be found used anywhere? Was it purchased by anyone? Thanks! Sylvain www.myspace.com/sylvainpoitras --001517503bbaed4cf00465642f98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi list,
I'm new around here and new to looping in general.=A0 I would like= to get my hands on a virtual repeater, but I'm not even sure if the so= ftware ever went on sale...=A0 from what I can read on=A0the net the softwa= re was being launched in fall 2007 and Electrix went under in early 2008.= =A0 Did any copies of the software ever ship?=A0 Can it be found used anywh= ere?=A0 Was it purchased by anyone?
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Thanks!
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--001517503bbaed4cf00465642f98-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 13:19:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8881A3BE88; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:19:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:19:09 UTC Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:49:08 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: OT: why no love for noel redding? To: Miko Biffle , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <0E36AF67E3044516ACC37C617797BEA6@coyote> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_jkb2R2uDhlqWVfhc/Ss1NQ)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <3fa302e30903171432r47798328v5d4004c3ae281f4e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:19:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_jkb2R2uDhlqWVfhc/Ss1NQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Yo crew -=20 I think poor Noel got the short straw for a number of reasons. IIRC, = he joined the Experience with promises of becoming a guitar player in = the band and having his own songs recorded. So he was a frustrated = guitar player stuck on bass. Then he's playing with two of the greatest = players ever - Hendrix and Mitchell. And can you name one song he wrote = besides "She's So Fine?" Then he's drugging and drinking and groupie-ing = like only a young male in his 20's in the late 60's could, alongside Mr. = H, who would out drug/drink/grope everyone right up to his death. And = the band was being hyped as THE GREATEST THING SINCE JESUS and they were = being tossed into grinding tours with mismanaged money and riots outside = the concert halls... So poor Noel just couldn't keep up on any front - = musicianship, songwriting, excessive lifestyle, crappy business. And Miko, yeah, Jimi was one of the sloppiest players going at = times. Again, it was par for the course. But man, give me "Machine Gun" = at the Fillmore! Jimi changed our DNA. Sometimes I cry when I think of = his dying.=20 =20 Music is going to break the way because music is in a spiritual thing of = its own. It's like the waves of the ocean. You can't just cut out the = perfect wave and take it home with you.=20 -- Jimi Hendrix=20 Wave on, wave on.... Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org "The purpose of music is to sober and quiet the mind, thus rendering it = suseptible to divine influences." -- Thomas Mace (17th century), transmitted to Gita Sarabhai, as told to = John Cage ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Miko Biffle=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:32 PM Subject: Re: OT: why no love for noel redding? This has nothing to do with my personal feelings for Noel=97it's = impersonal. It doesn't matter who played the parts (but I guess the = player had to have a name, so I used it.) Realize that I LOVE the = entire band and have unbelieveable, life-changing memories surrounding = my first-hand witness of the music. (Meaning I was there to see = it=97first tour, second tour) But when I sit down in front of the = monitors and listen, I have perceptions I'm not going to ignore due to = personal bias. There are always considerations regarding how one ended up with xyz = (whatever results followed)=97but the resulting document still has = specific sonic qualities. Just my humble, honest opinion. Would it be = safe to say Hendrix was sometimes a very sloppy player? *-) (Ducking = NOW!) To cleanse any sullifying damage my sacriligous statements may have = caused, I command you all to go home and watch "Jimi Plays Berkeley" = tonight and revel in absolutely amazing, skronky, beautific, Hendrix = bliss. Be sure to add plenty of your favorite beverage or potion. -m On 3/17/09, scott hansen wrote: wow-i read this and thought "why no love for noel?" he was a = young kid (early 20's if?) who thought he was auditioning for the new = animals (house of the rising son), and got thrown in the world of JHE. i = thought he was a good bass player for the experience. yes, i know there = are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums that jimi played a lot of the bass = stuff (i'm not up on my everything jimi did history in the last 10 yrs = or so), but give the guy a break. he was just playing the bass in the = band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and mixing. WHEN I LISTEN = TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old, IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. when i = still listen to this now that i've hit mid 40s-i'm amazed at the = maturity of the writing and the adventurous nature of the music-all done = by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and remember the lead = singer/composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of 50's era education-& = he was african american-a lot of the odds were against him!). that, and = the fact that the guy got shafted for his part of what he contributed, = and he died a few yrs ago at such a young age (wasn't he in he mid-late = 50's?) cut him some slack please! end of my rant... s--- Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen = to Zep,=20 > Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is = adequate (for=20 > the day)=97I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. = Mitch=20 > Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! = -m =20 --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" = --Boundary_(ID_jkb2R2uDhlqWVfhc/Ss1NQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Yo crew -
    I think poor = Noel got the=20 short straw for a number of reasons. IIRC, he joined the Experience with = promises of becoming a guitar player in the band and having his own = songs=20 recorded. So he was a frustrated guitar player stuck on bass. Then he's = playing=20 with two of the greatest players ever - Hendrix and Mitchell. And can = you name=20 one song he wrote besides "She's So Fine?" Then he's drugging and = drinking and=20 groupie-ing like only a young male in his 20's in the late 60's could, = alongside=20 Mr. H, who would out drug/drink/grope everyone right up to his death. = And the=20 band was being hyped as THE GREATEST THING SINCE JESUS and they were = being=20 tossed into grinding tours with mismanaged money and riots outside = the=20 concert halls... So poor Noel just couldn't keep up on any front - = musicianship,=20 songwriting, excessive lifestyle, crappy business.
    And Miko, yeah, = Jimi was=20 one of the sloppiest players going at times. Again, it was par for the = course.=20 But man, give me "Machine Gun" at the Fillmore! Jimi changed our DNA. = Sometimes=20 I cry when I think of his dying.
   
Music is going to break the way because music is in a spiritual = thing of=20 its own. It's like the waves of the ocean. You can't just cut out the = perfect=20 wave and take it home with you.
-- Jimi Hendrix
 
Wave on, wave = on....

Douglas Baldwin
Alpha Coyote
coyotelk@optonline.net
www.TheCoyote.org
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Miko = Biffle=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 = 5:32=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT: why no love = for noel=20 redding?

This has nothing to do with my personal feelings for = Noel=97it's=20 impersonal.  It doesn't matter who played the parts (but I guess = the=20 player had to have a name, so I used it.)  Realize that I LOVE = the entire=20 band and have unbelieveable, life-changing memories surrounding my = first-hand=20 witness of the music.  (Meaning I was there to see it=97first = tour, second=20 tour) But when I sit down in front of the monitors and listen, I have=20 perceptions I'm not going to ignore due to personal bias.

There = are=20 always considerations regarding how one ended up with xyz (whatever = results=20 followed)=97but the resulting document still has specific sonic = qualities. =20 Just my humble, honest opinion.  Would it be safe to say Hendrix = was=20 sometimes a very sloppy player?  *-)  (Ducking = NOW!)

To=20 cleanse any sullifying damage my sacriligous statements may have = caused, I=20 command you all to go home and watch "Jimi Plays Berkeley" tonight and = revel=20 in absolutely amazing, skronky, beautific, Hendrix bliss.  Be = sure to add=20 plenty of your favorite beverage or potion.  -m

On 3/17/09, scott=20 hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com> = wrote:
wow-i read this and thought "why no love for noel?" he = was a=20 young kid (early 20's if?) who thought he was auditioning for = the new=20 animals (house of the rising son), and got thrown in the world = of JHE.=20 i thought he was a good bass player for the experience. yes, i = know=20 there are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums that jimi = played a lot=20 of the bass stuff (i'm not up on my everything jimi did = history in the=20 last 10 yrs or so), but give the guy a break. he was just = playing the=20 bass in the band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and = mixing.=20 WHEN I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old, IT ALL = SOUNDS GOOD=20 TO ME. when i still listen to this now that i've hit mid = 40s-i'm=20 amazed at the maturity of the writing and the adventurous = nature of=20 the music-all done by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s = (and=20 remember the lead singer/composer-was a HS dropout, and a = product of=20 50's era education-& he was african american-a lot of the = odds=20 were against him!). that, and the fact that the guy got = shafted for=20 his part of what he contributed, and he died a few yrs ago at = such a=20 young age (wasn't he in he mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack=20 please!
end of my rant...
s---
 
Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can = listen to=20 Zep,
> Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the = bass is=20 adequate (for
> the day)=97I just don't find Redding's = bass that=20 satisfying. Mitch
> Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there = with=20 Bonham in my book!=20 -m

-- =
Miko=20 Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
"Running = scared=20 from all the usual distractions!" --Boundary_(ID_jkb2R2uDhlqWVfhc/Ss1NQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 13:34:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6C163BE92; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 315 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:34:15 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 830592.24903.bm@omp408.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237382939; bh=9ZRKs675dshf4FAZjKxHCQIYwT0JLq8k6Fwcp7jPhKk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x8D7h8jjUd6HqzVIajSzKC+32jzVXinl1xEybjcgSkbvK5l4cCRhNDegInEUY7EGzAp+LyEsNzDct+OdGKyvK40KvbNAbeUAZ1AJG8HRdb8ILHE0FEE3+dFwVCuDRnZ5nYjnYxNkJl+u8HSDYvnrnPxXz2GHHici3/2ZwKAdlog= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m8J5iWxyfBtVjAKmED1Up4jE+G9EQKE6DQv4sS8zRAokvsibyS2iT/owbROxfM+i6SaeAdQT9RA943hf4E4vy0BpgcNAG8HoZYaFjR5Oa2Y5pdulH9A650ims6SajEk3lEjAOVQrvd67Pr6S7CJGjR/qnRjobN+0fLN8vlxXm/s=; Message-ID: <343832.79142.qm@web45909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5tUgUwoVM1mw3FDySYRtkzvS8YwonewQrovi_BgDjCkf3nJ1xt51ZSCWCriQJfFIouxHQ4IzrWhupBweB6gVY3.iOqT.Ghhg2y_YrdShQxbskAJ6HEYJF2QkW4hinVuzChjQ.cFRw018THk.dQmtMG0ft7AyhGnRKurgFvxlJhBvW.xlMgKOkANYWMUL6pMaWg5AQd2qXXJD2iZ8_g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <3fa302e30903171432r47798328v5d4004c3ae281f4e@mail.gmail.com> <0E36AF67E3044516ACC37C617797BEA6@coyote> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: OT: why no love for noel redding? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1688656068-1237382939=:79142" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:34:15 +0000 (UTC) --0-1688656068-1237382939=:79142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Little Miss Strange" is a nice bit of '60s pop just warped enough to not g= et any radio airplay..........written by Noel Redding=0A=0AThe album it is = on, "Electric LadyLand" is in my top 5 list.....=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________= ____________________=0AFrom: Douglas Baldwin =0ATo:= Miko Biffle ; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent= : Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:49:08 AM=0ASubject: Re: OT: why no love for n= oel redding?=0A=0A=0AYo crew - =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I think poor Noel got = the short straw for a number of reasons. IIRC, he joined the Experience wit= h promises of becoming a guitar player in the band and having his own songs= recorded. So he was a frustrated guitar player stuck on bass. Then he's pl= aying with two of the greatest players ever - Hendrix and Mitchell. And can= you name one song he wrote besides "She's So Fine?" Then he's drugging and= drinking and groupie-ing like only a young male in his 20's in the late 60= 's could, alongside Mr. H, who would out drug/drink/grope everyone right up= to his death. And the band was being hyped as THE GREATEST THING SINCE JES= US and they were being tossed into grinding tours=C2=A0with mismanaged mone= y and riots outside the concert halls... So poor Noel just couldn't keep up= on any front - musicianship, songwriting, excessive lifestyle, crappy busi= ness.=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 And Miko, yeah, Jimi was one of the sloppiest pl= ayers going at times. Again, it was par for the course. But man, give me "M= achine Gun" at the Fillmore! Jimi changed our DNA. Sometimes I cry when I t= hink of his dying. =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =0AMusic is going to break the way= because music is in a spiritual thing of its own. It's like the waves of t= he ocean. You can't just cut out the perfect wave and take it home with you= .. =0A-- Jimi Hendrix =0A=C2=A0=0AWave on, wave on....=0ADouglas Baldwin=0AA= lpha Coyote=0Acoyotelk@optonline.net=0Awww.TheCoyote.org=0A=0A"The purpose = of music is to sober and quiet the mind, thus rendering it suseptible to di= vine influences."=0A-- Thomas Mace (17th century), transmitted to Gita Sara= bhai, as told to John Cage=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: Miko = Biffle =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0ASent: Tuesday, March 1= 7, 2009 5:32 PM=0ASubject: Re: OT: why no love for noel redding?=0AThis has= nothing to do with my personal feelings for Noel=E2=80=94it's impersonal.= =C2=A0 It doesn't matter who played the parts (but I guess the player had t= o have a name, so I used it.)=C2=A0 Realize that I LOVE the entire band and= have unbelieveable, life-changing memories surrounding my first-hand witne= ss of the music.=C2=A0 (Meaning I was there to see it=E2=80=94first tour, s= econd tour) But when I sit down in front of the monitors and listen, I have= perceptions I'm not going to ignore due to personal bias.=0A=0AThere are a= lways considerations regarding how one ended up with xyz (whatever results = followed)=E2=80=94but the resulting document still has specific sonic quali= ties.=C2=A0 Just my humble, honest opinion.=C2=A0 Would it be safe to say H= endrix was sometimes a very sloppy player?=C2=A0 *-)=C2=A0 (Ducking NOW!)= =0A=0ATo cleanse any sullifying damage my sacriligous statements may have c= aused, I command you all to go home and watch "Jimi Plays Berkeley" tonight= and revel in absolutely amazing, skronky, beautific, Hendrix bliss.=C2=A0 = Be sure to add plenty of your favorite beverage or potion.=C2=A0 -m=0A=0A= =0AOn 3/17/09, scott hansen wrote: =0Awow-i read thi= s and thought "why no love for noel?" he was a young kid (early 20's if?) w= ho thought he was auditioning for the new animals (house of the rising son)= , and got thrown in the world of JHE. i thought he was a good bass player f= or the experience. yes, i know there are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums = that jimi played a lot of the bass stuff (i'm not up on my everything jimi = did history in the last 10 yrs or so), but give the guy a break. he was jus= t playing the bass in the band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and= mixing. WHEN I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old, IT ALL SOUNDS = GOOD TO ME. when i still listen to this now that i've hit mid 40s-i'm amaze= d at the maturity of the writing and the adventurous nature of the music-al= l done by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and remember the lead s= inger/composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of 50's era education-& he w= as african american-a lot of the odds were against him!). that, and the fact that the guy got shafted for his part of what he= contributed, and he died a few yrs ago at such a young age (wasn't he in h= e mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please!=0Aend of my rant...=0As---=0A= =0AMaybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep, = =0A> Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for = =0A> the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mit= ch =0A> Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m=0A = =0A-- =0AMiko Biffle=0ABiffoz@Gmail.com=0AMBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com=0A"Runn= ing scared from all the usual distractions!" =0A=0A=0A --0-1688656068-1237382939=:79142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Little Miss Strange" is a nice bit of '60s pop just w= arped enough to not get any radio airplay..........written by Noel Redding<= /DIV>=0A
 
=0A
The album it is on, "Electric LadyLand" is= in my top 5 list.....
=0A

=0A
=0A
=0AFro= m: Douglas Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net>
To: Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com&g= t;; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:49:08 AM
Subject: Re: OT: why no love for noel re= dding?

=0A=0A=0A
Yo crew -
=0A
&nb= sp;   I think poor Noel got the short straw for a number of reaso= ns. IIRC, he joined the Experience with promises of becoming a guitar playe= r in the band and having his own songs recorded. So he was a frustrated gui= tar player stuck on bass. Then he's playing with two of the greatest player= s ever - Hendrix and Mitchell. And can you name one song he wrote besides "= She's So Fine?" Then he's drugging and drinking and groupie-ing like only a= young male in his 20's in the late 60's could, alongside Mr. H, who would = out drug/drink/grope everyone right up to his death. And the band was being= hyped as THE GREATEST THING SINCE JESUS and they were being tossed into gr= inding tours with mismanaged money and riots outside the concert halls= .... So poor Noel just couldn't keep up on any front - musicianship, songwri= ting, excessive lifestyle, crappy business.
=0A
    And Miko, yeah, Jimi was one of t= he sloppiest players going at times. Again, it was par for the course. But = man, give me "Machine Gun" at the Fillmore! Jimi changed our DNA. Sometimes= I cry when I think of his dying.
=0A
   
=0A
Music is going to brea= k the way because music is in a spiritual thing of its own. It's like the w= aves of the ocean. You can't just cut out the perfect wave and take it home= with you.
-- Jimi Hendrix
=0A
 
=0A
Wave on, wav= e on....
=0A

Douglas B= aldwin
Alpha Coyote
coyotelk= @optonline.net
www.TheCoyote.org
=0A
 
=0A
"The= purpose of music is to sober and quiet the mind, thus rendering it susepti= ble to divine influences."
-- Thomas Mace (17th century), transmitted to= Gita Sarabhai, as told to John Cage
=0A
=0A
---= -- Original Message -----
=0A=0A
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0A
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 = 5:32 PM
=0A
Subject: Re: OT: why= no love for noel redding?
=0A

This has nothing to do wi= th my personal feelings for Noel=E2=80=94it's impersonal.  It doesn't = matter who played the parts (but I guess the player had to have a name, so = I used it.)  Realize that I LOVE the entire band and have unbelieveabl= e, life-changing memories surrounding my first-hand witness of the music.&n= bsp; (Meaning I was there to see it=E2=80=94first tour, second tour) But wh= en I sit down in front of the monitors and listen, I have perceptions I'm n= ot going to ignore due to personal bias.

There are always considerat= ions regarding how one ended up with xyz (whatever results followed)=E2=80= =94but the resulting document still has specific sonic qualities.  Jus= t my humble, honest opinion.  Would it be safe to say Hendrix was some= times a very sloppy player?  *-)  (Ducking NOW!)

To cleans= e any sullifying damage my sacriligous statements may have caused, I comman= d you all to go home and watch "Jimi Plays Berkeley" tonight and revel in absolutely amazing, skronky, beautific, Hen= drix bliss.  Be sure to add plenty of your favorite beverage or potion= ..  -m

=0A
On 3/17/09, scott hansen <e= vanpeewee@yahoo.com> wrote: =0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A
wow-i read this and tho= ught "why no love for noel?" he was a young kid (early 20's if?) who though= t he was auditioning for the new animals (house of the rising son), and got= thrown in the world of JHE. i thought he was a good bass player for the ex= perience. yes, i know there are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums that = jimi played a lot of the bass stuff (i'm not up on my everything jimi did h= istory in the last 10 yrs or so), but give the guy a break. he was just pla= ying the bass in the band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and mixi= ng. WHEN I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old, IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD = TO ME. when i still listen to this now that i've hit mid 40s-i'm amazed at = the maturity of the writing and the adventurous nature of the music-all don= e by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and remember the lead singer= /composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of 50's era education-& he wa= s african american-a lot of the odds were against him!). that, and the fact that the guy got shafted for his pa= rt of what he contributed, and he died a few yrs ago at such a young age (w= asn't he in he mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please!
=0A
end = of my rant...
=0A
s---
=0A
 
=0A
Maybe my b= eef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can listen to Zep,
> Sabbat= h and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is adequate (for
> the = day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding's bass that satisfying. Mitch
&g= t; Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my book! -m
<= /TD>

--
Miko Biffle
Biffo= z@Gmail.com
MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
"Running scared from all the us= ual distractions!"

=0A=0A --0-1688656068-1237382939=:79142-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 13:43:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89C103BE88; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20090318131910.2666B3BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Volume sensitive chorus VST? (Vortex) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:43:05 +0100 Message-ID: <001801c9a7cf$77504d30$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmnzDTuWoJqCDzCQEeJZKmxXJ7boAAAvjFA In-Reply-To: <20090318131910.2666B3BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.116; VDF: 7.1.2.185) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:43:09 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if there are chorus VSTs that could mimic the volume sensitive Vortex. I loved some of the Vortex sounds where the chorus was fast, for example, with the guitar string attack, and then got slower. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 13:48:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8F503BE80; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 575 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:48:14 UTC X-Trace: 229390011/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0DANuVwEk+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIgnfQdIN8Bg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,384,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="229390011" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:38:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: rack jamman volume? Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <49C0F950.17771.127BFF9@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:48:14 +0000 (UTC) The output of my loops on an older jamman (with the Sellon chip) is slightly quieter than the input signal, even with the mix on full. I realise the sampled sound isn't hi-fi resolution, but wondered if there's an easy mod to boost the loop level a fraction? Nick Robinson music site : http://www.nickrobinson.info/music myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 13:48:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AF393BE97; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:48:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 229390012/mk-outboundfilter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0DANuVwEk+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIgnfQdIN8Bg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,384,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="229390012" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:38:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <3X0E8.A.GAD.fuPwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:48:15 +0000 (UTC) On 16 Mar 2009 at 22:52, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Yes, but not a thriving one. Depends on your criteria. We're not mega busy, but 463 posts, 80 members indicates we're not totally moribund either! It's there for those of us who prefer forums (forii?) to lists and like to operate at a more sedate level that the LD list! Nick Robinson music site : http://www.nickrobinson.info/music myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 13:59:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18EA03BE8C; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=R60oJVwe1KYBeIEcVrXqoPxbTOg/P2AgydLPX0cwQSE=; b=AB3S4wHhyREdPZus/rrp0sHVAnVZaNZqkQKbTnR/H3JongvaZ7yf3jdiIKK6OfaIvx tf8L9HIhG847yGN8eXk8bnd5jyMWrv9lI7yoWp/b2LcblW45kjToqCJPDVnTt3Ib1eev Y3lNA6gWhx1qNkafydctCCGzQkrlWf5usmo3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=dOkkxqiCe7PPKrz5hUjomlg/MmFekOPFxgRARs9UZH8MaeEXBJ3ETmsFkm4WAq4gOG sDREjwPiuhrVMqLEmviLPbdKMUvsiahiQCEzdn5mnVxjniHWyTxdH+4e+nzqkvJHRfXK GFapigECl+vkIXpbwnq4ixPwU4Sc2fLvqYyvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <001801c9a7cf$77504d30$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <20090318131910.2666B3BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <001801c9a7cf$77504d30$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:59:15 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a1e7282cbca6ddb2 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Volume sensitive chorus VST? (Vortex) From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:59:46 +0000 (UTC) I could write one quick enough :) I know I mentioned these to you just the other day but Reaktor and Max/MSP would let you knock one up yourself. actually you could probably do this in Pluggo too - I think there's an env tracker module that you could connect up to a chorus speed parameter in another plug-in. likewise Bidule. cheers, os. 2009/3/18 Michael Peters : > I wonder if there are chorus VSTs that could mimic the volume sensitive > Vortex. I loved some of the Vortex sounds where the chorus was fast, for > example, with the guitar string attack, and then got slower. > > -Michael > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 15:03:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76CD63BE91; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/d3Ip2x+fJGmOKFKyAL/44V/wM9wWxOnrBUW12zYrgM=; b=AcHIULmgWSRNPnsgwsyxoJaDdllGutFVBzrrvbirVY82beLRnZOm39cWSQc6/tsVeE XjS5R8bhEioaH6EPEUkdVau4kfeMtpleS5SAX/4apTSie+sPdnsOlTTghukdaotDsVl2 YML9luValAIYfQN2EPgnjO3dfECY8L33LpL7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZMZXasVrnO4cvgMXWYzasOxnsd1i/s/a7xPH5HuRKnPovkrC4RnP50NTQMfb7nDTlw E9nodfUX/rLSVC9H4w4pJTK4AVuC9wGFwcZNiA/1TnNE7V+4FpxDBCWdwAHasmRJN9eJ TwmAsw6dwPvkmv69+fjsjPmjuO98XjubEvQ74= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:03:31 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum From: Per Boysen To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:03:32 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, nick@12testing.net wrote= : > Depends on your criteria. We're not mega busy, but 463 posts, 80 > members indicates we're not totally moribund either! =A0It's there for > those of us who prefer forums (forii?) Not for me, but maybe for others. I wouldn't have the time needed for keeping up with a forum. I think it would be optimal with both a mailing list and a forum hosting the same posts. A serious forum build must mean any list post will be duplicated into a forum post and every forum post will be duplicated to the list - forum thread equaling e-mail subject line. Then the idea of using a forum or an e-mail client for interacting would mean just a choice of tool for participating in the very same discussion. This is especially important with this community because you people tend to wander off into off-topic land in the most wonderful way! :-)) And IMHO we can't afford to lose that for the sake of freakish sanity still alive and well in here. Good things with fora is that we can post articles and tutorials that include pictures. Back-side is that it's a slow way of mass communications. Both needed in my opinion. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 15:15:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AB5C3BE92; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=PbWjS+jqKfjXZTnQsI6+5MuTJg/tSVfoI+Svp357741b3JJcnEumovwqyI66nGLv; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:14:27 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79c94d7e5f20292adc7ce27ddafdf308a7350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Per, The solution you seek is already a part of most online forum software. It's called "email notification of topic replies" and very frequently the body of the message is included in the e-mail. >On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, nick@12testing.net wrote: >> Depends on your criteria. We're not mega busy, but 463 posts, 80 >> members indicates we're not totally moribund either! It's there for >> those of us who prefer forums (forii?) > > >Not for me, but maybe for others. I wouldn't have the time needed for >keeping up with a forum. I think it would be optimal with both a >mailing list and a forum hosting the same posts. A serious forum build >must mean any list post will be duplicated into a forum post and every >forum post will be duplicated to the list - forum thread equaling >e-mail subject line. Then the idea of using a forum or an e-mail >client for interacting would mean just a choice of tool for >participating in the very same discussion. This is especially >important with this community because you people tend to wander off >into off-topic land in the most wonderful way! :-)) And IMHO we can't >afford to lose that for the sake of freakish sanity still alive and >well in here. > >Good things with fora is that we can post articles and tutorials that >include pictures. Back-side is that it's a slow way of mass >communications. Both needed in my opinion. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se >www.perboysen.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 15:50:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4ED33BE8F; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1d46yJBw0CtMxfyyjD1o63wrclWtRgFU8I2RtUIyy8w=; b=a86DOs01HqdHGxv0596Zl/rUbz3/p1JYryaMN2O5iw1mCuqjBLV+BzTJQfg70I3Uko F7DzZ9jMWWTd+uLHxNEFBFZC1i7OO7nDcwKFmoQ3Qlnjv3N6WRL7CwBxzMst9fAa+ZVB 57Ide775/EqhVf/IQAvo5n/TY36Ebwzb1ByM0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=RQzlR8mWo05Rov4+hqwTWxOJgRZwq3rwTwzRXrbEXbM2/biONs0zc4ICeL642G9of1 ghxhNKM5GoEOSJEdHKRaXYIi2rvSG8dQY/e9kLij2UTj0bA+ZWLPWha0EB4OI+C2kTfm xpwaxSl1sXU71+P0O6Qf4d2MX8BboOyMAKv6Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f0903170652h24bbc60eqe7574e0ab96a25de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:50:53 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7ea3c4fc73f0496e Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903180850l6b1967e2me4efe9e45da04ef@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Gig recording From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d6468802a160046566a68f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:50:54 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d6468802a160046566a68f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They tell me it was VERY loud Os... and it felt pretty intense actually... but volume is a funny beast.. i have actually not done many gigs recently, and I must admit that the loudness threw me a bit, so although I was pretty happy with the gig, and the recording... I can hear that Im forgetting to do a few things, and bothering to do subtle things. For example theres very little POST processing of the loopers here , the distortion of course, but, normally I will be panning stuff, and filtering stuff, and ring modding stuff into different chanels of the mixer to bring up for breaks and changes and transitions. anyway.. thanks... your comments mean a lot.. m 2009/3/18 Os > good work Mark - that ending must've been pretty intense through a loud PA! > > os. > > > 2009/3/17 mark francombe : > > Recording and pics from my recentish gig... > > > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?p=433 > > > > -- > > www.markfrancombe.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d6468802a160046566a68f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable They tell me it was VERY loud Os... and it felt pretty intense actually... = but volume is a funny beast.. i have actually not done many gigs recently, = and I must admit that the loudness threw me a bit, so although I was pretty= happy with the gig, and the recording... I can hear that Im forgetting to = do a few things, and bothering to do subtle things. For example theres very= little POST processing of the loopers here , the distortion of course, but= , normally I will be panning stuff, and filtering stuff, and ring modding s= tuff into different chanels of the mixer to bring up for breaks and changes= and transitions.

anyway.. thanks... your comments mean a lot..

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--0016e6d6468802a160046566a68f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 16:15:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAB953BE8F; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=8adTL7tKVT/AfvP3ePDMiTQJsRYaZB2Wi+xxYDJ/j40=; b=P8L59iUW5tNOilsnnRtgIpWTJJz1bQsUp6Sx55XTkwwXUHqhSeo4qYN0EGFV6y1/JU EsbR1WkfS2TLGCcQt0AlGpzj/BHyE5IOrI9tsGnEviNzHQuksdAvxlJXJbvxzgDrVcKF SE43p/NyBxWz+n9SgMmMaO8aJGqdsm3LRqP4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qvBk+/BSRHZ9DsRkxZsVtqN6S6Ib+64U5GKtGG3KMSlYhTVC8hjKwWtTnIidGtGuDA sWSofJ0f+Ro+bHJbJe5WZRqORDGQ5rzLiwXX9sGE8HmSgPCcE1dXl4o2cB3kTRupDms4 MWTSMQvuhsLGaUI3oGr3ppdMEQHteDz+QYJqM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:15:22 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Number of Loopers From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2d28f2cdff046566fdf0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:15:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6db2d28f2cdff046566fdf0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're not mega busy, but 463 posts, 80 members indicates we're not totally moribund either! Good day fellow loopers Does anyone have an idea as to how many people are subscibed to Loopers delight? I have wound my wayup into the sociology department and would like to do a little ditty on the looping community but i need some stats. Anyone have any idea of the number of people looping around the world, if not specific to this mailing list? --0016e6db2d28f2cdff046566fdf0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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members indicates we&= #39;re not totally moribund either!
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Good day fellow loopers
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Does anyone have an idea as to how many people are subscibed to Looper= s delight? I have wound my wayup into the sociology department and would li= ke to do a little ditty on the looping community but i need some stats.
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Anyone have any idea of the number of people looping around the world,= if not specific to this mailing list?
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--0016e6db2d28f2cdff046566fdf0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 16:16:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71C8E3BE91; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:16:55 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090318161655.25830@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18Jz8ZYAhYJ/6zQMPtuIy+mLdRmyj1Lq7Y294/z8M QRH+kYch/Pr/iEdZ7wLngNsJCu0ERCAZPJVw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: TyjyfXVCTXsue9p/mmU5grtCRzdyMoMx X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I think technically it's no problem. I guess there are standard tools that a) can send every forum message also via mail b) allow to respond via mail to forum messages. But by now, I've figured - despite the pioneering spirit in looping technology - we, the Looper's Delight contributors, are highly dogmatic people resistant to any change (which can be also positive, I guess... ;-) A higher priority would be for me actually to have a "Looper's Delight Wiki" where we can simply hack all the good stuff on Wiki pages instead of repeating them over again... :) best regards, Buzap -- Aufgepasst: Sind Ihre Daten beim Online-Banking auch optimal geschützt? Jetzt absichern: https://homebanking.gmx.net/?mc=mail@footer.hb From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 16:26:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DAB43BE91; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:26:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cDj8cjtqJrgguWLaDQKH4Ht2qLvRGk5J2mpgURDZRmnrqPzqwrZ1fVZ9/DurSrkw; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20090318161655.25830@gmx.net> References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> <20090318161655.25830@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:25:10 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79529120042282cbf9f204a2939328b051350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.244.138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:26:06 +0000 (UTC) +1 on all this >Yes, I think technically it's no problem. I=20 >guess there are standard tools that >a) can send every forum message also via mail >b) allow to respond via mail to forum messages. > >But by now, I've figured - despite the=20 >pioneering spirit in looping technology - we,=20 >the Looper's Delight contributors, are highly=20 >dogmatic people resistant to any change (which=20 >can be also positive, I guess... ;-) > >A higher priority would be for me actually to=20 >have a "Looper's Delight Wiki" where we can=20 >simply hack all the good stuff on Wiki pages=20 >instead of repeating them over again... :) > >best regards, Buzap > > >-- >Aufgepasst: Sind Ihre Daten beim Online-Banking auch optimal gesch=FCtzt? >Jetzt absichern: https://homebanking.gmx.net/?mc=3Dmail@footer.hb -- =2E.. http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 16:52:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 809843BE93; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZBYoTviD2/P+zKsIbq7HUTkVsYaMRfxpYqmgCtl0+KE=; b=Dtk/fGGW1Kt0zsZS0kamLhvWQivkanwBWI1SckHJQ0mgmQBODa+ep4DjB8X+pSYCAD 9INiAJ2sYbrk5+SfsUzTY4fW2e9C5MS3/0AJp+OPFyGtPXVCZY2dVmtG8/DBltnjUgP9 8uELiduOlQ8S59LU/Nir2bsn0oD8sVVY/0SsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JaWFZ9/q4S0wRV9d81NHb5Mza8TaV03KnvhFX9Vl2T5pW/aTnJg4TDpaTOTyC/ur+m nXpAzFNLAULMIuYTqCSCfL4XCv6eCxroaHcOGD+0bdlHpVPK6wusLh4DiBBatu7cyVhW ZK4U6HKPIFjN2vVSv8SWLYQpOYhliWY+0LPi4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:52:16 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903180952h447f7d5k4affe247cc67ca1d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:52:17 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Charles Zwicky wr= ote: > > =A0The solution you seek is already a part of most online forum software. > It's called "email notification of topic replies" and very frequently the > body of the message is included in the e-mail. Yes, I know. I'm not "seeking" it though, just mentioning the importance of it because another list I'm very fond of, the Logic User Group, just got a new forum that does only work one way. So I have been thinking about that a lot lately ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 16:55:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A1F3BE91; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:55:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:55:57 -0500 Subject: RE: Virtual repeater Thread-Topic: Virtual repeater Thread-Index: AcmnyW9h3lYaVOywR4aTKCrmISMuWgAHnRwA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:55:59 +0000 (UTC) > I would like to get my hands on a virtual repeater, but I'm not even > sure if the software ever went on sale... from what I can read on the > net the software was being launched in fall 2007 and Electrix went > under in early 2008. Did any copies of the software ever ship? =20 =20 After looking at their early marketing videos, I don't think the software ever existed. If you can still find the video, look closely at the screen as he goes through the motions. It is almost completely static aside from some simulated bouncing level meters. Coincidentally he has a hardware Repeater on the desk next to him out of sight most of the time. Hmm. =20 I suspect they put together a vaporware demo to try and gauge the amount of interest and attract investors. Apparently it didn't work. =20 People looking for Repeater emulators are usually a fan of their quirky time stretch feature. There are a lot of software loopers now but I don't think any of them do time stretch exactly like the Repeater. Check out Ambiloop, Augustus Loop, Kenaxis, Logelloop, Mobius, and SooperLooper. One of those might meet your needs. =20 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 17:12:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5F493BE8F; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:12:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=M4nMWEsSmDLsVuY9F1AJKEdtVDiOwdi84fzHXeuQDgI=; b=fAb6lUVTa1uZlr7YDaEhJyuj8DeCIypcHasB6HPYtISXp8MZJ8J48zGMF2LQEN0gT6 FpNZfv8HfkHVoSqVcvk4UMFunijLjwolWzO0u0UUeqfVguxjZh8Uh8xIxv+Uqzx7QEPn Cxymxe8hqQlnO8jdmo7kiXMqURvtLbsgzn0gA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=QaQJuN+wXRrlZctp8sd5HnYP0N47MA0bjMMlFUmEW3Ry8Qugu2zN/z/+j16XSo1bl2 7BdiF5ubQJlK9V7XdHOC+mnYzEl7Wiuu2PoFR0Is6X0/3STHT83qfe8banB2ygmp7ym/ LxXV+HKUysZffFeVeO15bGdY+k7rt3oG1HG80= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:12:23 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:12:23 +0000 (UTC) He, he... that's just hilarious! But you can still create awesome imaginary loops on a Hoax Looper software! The music lives in the ear of the beholder ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > After looking at their early marketing videos, I don't think the > software ever existed. =A0If you can still find the video, look closely > at the screen as he goes through the motions. =A0It is almost completely > static aside from some simulated bouncing level meters. > Coincidentally he has a hardware Repeater on the desk next to him out > of sight most of the time. =A0Hmm. > > I suspect they put together a vaporware demo to try and gauge the > amount of interest and attract investors. =A0Apparently it didn't work. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 17:24:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D92313BE93; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 165578721/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.169.128/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.169.128 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8BAFvKwElPTqmA/2dsb2JhbAAI1FCDfAaHPg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,385,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="165578721" Message-ID: <49C1304A.90703@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:32:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Volume sensitive chorus VST? (Vortex) References: <20090318131910.2666B3BE8E@arsenic.violacea.com> <001801c9a7cf$77504d30$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <001801c9a7cf$77504d30$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:24:01 +0000 (UTC) hi Michael, As you're using Bidule, you just need to add an envelope follower (a bidule) and hook up it's output (parameters) to regulate the speed on any vst chorus. andy oh, Os already mentioned this way Michael Peters wrote: > I wonder if there are chorus VSTs that could mimic the volume sensitive > Vortex. I loved some of the Vortex sounds where the chorus was fast, for > example, with the guitar string attack, and then got slower. > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 17:48:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E61A3BE8F; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Bhjy0BxHvZMAie53+SpeZoGrwp1KQkwSySG2SarZ+K4=; b=cK92FWICO3ZMMRU0MfPAh60FgU25Rl0A9GrkMEdzsNelx+ZuwSMrhMw3In8nBJY45g 4/Sw18W3yqiNLX8ajWu0dnEufBEWovLGwGwGyLlUvDvPfYXYvlLnSMrD8P6IhKex/doM 5GH+JWL1ypNpzbIZMRNT8qEkEn17oJuVVNri4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=AYSnVedH/vOWzOh5f4xVdSCXTVBXky1HkO7ztmrg0DCa2hPoR3vBskhIjmz0TUMWZO N15cSMvi9t/b7XIxwfrXLxMHR6L2fPLt2L/oHhpsE6P+rZvPlgCl+fY1XaGEsiAJeYk+ oJDpHYakVI03tQRxY4yBjkij2naK81VLBDKlI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:48:43 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:48:43 +0000 (UTC) How about the looper in the upcoming Ableton 8 version? Will it do time stretching like the repeater did? -- Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 17:51:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 742A83BE99; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FKutU0tZzLKMgo0sw8MXh3whwJWX2OlpuBpPF7pY+uo=; b=pJ+Z/9KKdoc6noD0xw59DDJoxL75JuHFdG++lLHFwbedbRddcSJkatmnovz1BhNRcx w94iu8MQfm2crkBlVP931sPKvCTs3BrsP5PmRdBAXgRY4YU6afUTTkVZY0Lk7dMADNjS +Vbh/TDQnslb1eVTyfigxq7jxf4u+j8Do3Dh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FOaqWFiqX8EXaJw7ML3A7ocC2Ai5yBu5iPggcQL4FdHv5Pd/z0sm9+6ZmU8AZT3oLN gMcT+UIwYhOBJ9VpDQO1jOooKpJG2k1AYWQHTUg2CbnIwI78GWnb3rji0cDt3cILeCUU hK1lGfXyE3o2YZIsmV6/4qeJ81gtehfeZiqrs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:51:27 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90903181051l19a03b83p2546d7b437ed226d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cdf8c3c0ecb0465685531 Resent-Message-ID: <4HQ6HD.A.jdF.gSTwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:51:28 +0000 (UTC) --0015175cdf8c3c0ecb0465685531 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff, wow, amazing story... I'll take a look at the software you mention, thanks for the suggestions. Sylvain On 3/18/09, Jeff Larson wrote: > > > > I would like to get my hands on a virtual repeater, but I'm not even > > sure if the software ever went on sale... from what I can read on the > > net the software was being launched in fall 2007 and Electrix went > > under in early 2008. Did any copies of the software ever ship? > > After looking at their early marketing videos, I don't think the > software ever existed. If you can still find the video, look closely > at the screen as he goes through the motions. It is almost completely > static aside from some simulated bouncing level meters. > Coincidentally he has a hardware Repeater on the desk next to him out > of sight most of the time. Hmm. > > I suspect they put together a vaporware demo to try and gauge the > amount of interest and attract investors. Apparently it didn't work. > > People looking for Repeater emulators are usually a fan of their > quirky time stretch feature. There are a lot of software loopers > now but I don't think any of them do time stretch exactly like > the Repeater. Check out Ambiloop, Augustus Loop, Kenaxis, Logelloop, > Mobius, and SooperLooper. One of those might meet your needs. > > Jeff > > --0015175cdf8c3c0ecb0465685531 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jeff,
wow, amazing story...=A0=A0I'll take a look at the software you me= ntion, thanks for the suggestions.
Sylvain


=A0
On 3/18/09, = Jeff Larson <jeff.larso= n@sailpoint.com> wrote:

> I would like to get my = hands on a virtual repeater, but I'm not even
> sure if the softw= are ever went on sale...=A0=A0from what I can read on the
> net the software was being launched in fall 2007 and Electrix went
= > under in early 2008.=A0=A0Did any copies of the software ever ship?
After looking at their early marketing videos, I don't think the software ever existed.=A0=A0If you can still find the video, look closelyat the screen as he goes through the motions.=A0=A0It is almost completel= y
static aside from some simulated bouncing level meters.
Coincidenta= lly he has a hardware Repeater on the desk next to him out
of sight most of the time.=A0=A0Hmm.

I suspect they put together a v= aporware demo to try and gauge the
amount of interest and attract invest= ors.=A0=A0Apparently it didn't work.

People looking for Repeater= emulators are usually a fan of their
quirky time stretch feature.=A0=A0There are a lot of software loopers
no= w but I don't think any of them do time stretch exactly like
the Rep= eater.=A0=A0Check out Ambiloop, Augustus Loop, Kenaxis, Logelloop,
Mobiu= s, and SooperLooper.=A0=A0One of those might meet your needs.

Jeff


--0015175cdf8c3c0ecb0465685531-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 17:53:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0600B3BEA4; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237398825; bh=mmTreAgSAlStXjm6OrLOVbD2/bJyiQeJ9swTfvlq708=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SQWWf3UfKWE8suWrkvxYdWgGHushUA0DgrBLJm8Kh8XgF+GSW/B7P7i4YgH3z8kk+vCio2C0ZQUDx+NkIQeNPngdyrW2isHnZwKHrW4BPkEbavJ98qOTzLFzZU8gIJLyt95L5l3KK2sCrFw5KTJ5sBgNnDby1xHotA/7jd+1sqA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NqVHfExn2vzE1JAVoA2eJ87ySU9aQ066CzI++YOagIaAlkxUGULlZqGntbR2zxKywIDGGwtjQPvK9QoKZWLTBszP8CEZCfCVZNHKU7uBGZt1G4w1FWrai4rI0aYdoiD+PxqAWBE2g4Bh0fRf1/TrVcmYhiO0S2N9nr1aSJfn43Y=; Message-ID: <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2WVLPxgVM1ltp4unIftUwutaJdeCRyPZarLj49mC0GZeutE4bliVOsW3Of6LV4SVK_IuJfl.TDjfZB3X4vWHKiUsKa4Ex9_1y5LO65kZvoLkFJLqktufwmEyLvY9JBFeI1moEnNyadmDtsksJ0tvnkZwN2MJo6A4uNjRkLjEwXSjCciTo15JBLsad3ef X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Reply-To: vsyevolod@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090318131910.1FAEB3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:53:45 +0000 (UTC) The Virtual Repeater was very close to being finished though never saw the light of day. There are no 'copies' floating around cyberspace that I've ever heard of, and I'm close to those who would have heard of them. Electrix was sold twice after the initial demise, and never did the Repeater see the light of day during the second two incarnations. They did release a new OS for the Repeater hardware, and a few DJ oriented modules that weren't in the original lineup... But no, Electrix and all their hard work is dead and gone. Stephen <<>> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 18:04:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 591943BE99; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:04:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b9Kb5zuV/dlGORyIsT6FHNGaFUudWEm85hhY1Oq0OTY=; b=YkhInIpH4nVu19DDT6oh0fS0q1PpnUcOJpbRdU2oblGmlSYzclseLYZbe7yIhYpJ+Y PbIO7dZYIuvAfJnUpOH70SmQrzkoVypy64xqKgDtqcYpquPLiP7nassJwLprhoxbnD13 y76LDCZY4KU5+BqHKJ2ckqOE4OkXOAT+gt9jo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WVFleeuRWQFuwX7/n99Df0gzRaMJJ9O1bQtzARN0xnZntQu7sKxT5e7fsiiN88MhRW BVMXgDUqtzVZlV+zt2FT53anQ51LS6rust+KhqB1vnmX+lH3Cl6WskCg4u+gBl7KI5dv 1dYjhkGWfkgFKIm7zh57xlzvV9WCzgoAVpmfI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:04:10 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:04:11 +0000 (UTC) I'd guess not, because none of the recent time stretching algorithms does. The won't invest in a new algorithm just for a looper plug-in. Eh... I take it you're talking about the sound of the Repeater algorithm here? That quirky lo-fi gnarling with the greatest feel to it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Art Simon wrote: > How about the looper in the upcoming Ableton 8 version? Will it do > time stretching like the repeater did? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 18:56:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3237D3BE9E; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 839 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:56:08 UTC Message-Id: <72594807-E2CA-4701-92A8-CB858D4DF415@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Virtual repeater Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:42:04 -0700 References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Server-Quench: 7c29f483-13ec-11de-aecc-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwRVfTcfHRpo UEhAUlNaHgFqCxwJ SBgZTBh1dxtEe3pu YEB9XHVZWVt6Oxh/ OzcDEwRsZW9iYGMZ HkFRdwUad1BId0lB YlNiVXBYMngGZy41 WgY+NDt0ZW0GeHsM T1BWdVxOV3wGTHYC RgoeADwrVVcIXyg6 MxE8QmMx X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1378/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:56:09 +0000 (UTC) nope, never went up for sale. and they left their beta testers in the lurch. On Mar 18, 2009, at 9:55 AM, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> I would like to get my hands on a virtual repeater, but I'm not even >> sure if the software ever went on sale... from what I can read on >> the >> net the software was being launched in fall 2007 and Electrix went >> under in early 2008. Did any copies of the software ever ship? > > After looking at their early marketing videos, I don't think the > software ever existed. If you can still find the video, look closely > at the screen as he goes through the motions. It is almost completely > static aside from some simulated bouncing level meters. > Coincidentally he has a hardware Repeater on the desk next to him out > of sight most of the time. Hmm. > > I suspect they put together a vaporware demo to try and gauge the > amount of interest and attract investors. Apparently it didn't work. > > People looking for Repeater emulators are usually a fan of their > quirky time stretch feature. There are a lot of software loopers > now but I don't think any of them do time stretch exactly like > the Repeater. Check out Ambiloop, Augustus Loop, Kenaxis, Logelloop, > Mobius, and SooperLooper. One of those might meet your needs. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 18:57:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8831B3BEAE; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Virtual repeater Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:57:03 +0100 Message-ID: <000201c9a7fb$552ecc50$050313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acmn7lFipfRqjV4CTcqOC8woZNkhvA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:57:31 +0000 (UTC) > Check out Ambiloop, Augustus Loop, Kenaxis, Logelloop, > Mobius, and SooperLooper. One of those might meet your needs. Tip: check out Per's comparisons chart of both hard-and software loopers: http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php Btw Per: could update the LP1 info? Undo: Yes Pitch transposing: 1/2 speed, varispeed (continuous 1/2 speed), 1/4 speed when combining the two. When you record with 1/2 speed, and switch back to normal speed, you'll have double speed Max number of loops: 8 Built-in storage option: export/import digital audio using the internal webserver --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 19:00:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F04893BEBA; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:00:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 892 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:00:35 UTC Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <86219C50-16BA-4BCA-9DCE-EA7CB26F2A87@zoekeating.com> From: Zoe Keating To: vsyevolod@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:45:37 -0700 References: <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Server-Quench: fa9ca479-13ec-11de-aecc-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOw5HJEYITQBc chwbOAMDd3gVXxYD A2YCS1VcWll0U2d1 JQxWcwRaYlRMXAF0 VU5WQFdQERpoT0ID f2dEAX0Bdw1CeHxx K0dkW3QVChVzJhd5 RUdJFG5TNnphaTRK TRENJFBJcANLdhhE P1l8VCUJLwdSbGoG HhUvIjk1dQ9SMClc XgwXRVJF X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1378/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:00:35 +0000 (UTC) yup, i never got a version of the virtual repeater to test. On Mar 18, 2009, at 10:53 AM, S V G wrote: > > > The Virtual Repeater was very close to being finished though > never saw the light of day. There are no 'copies' floating around > cyberspace that I've ever heard of, and I'm close to those who would > have heard of them. Electrix was sold twice after the initial > demise, and never did the Repeater see the light of day during the > second two incarnations. They did release a new OS for the Repeater > hardware, and a few DJ oriented modules that weren't in the original > lineup... But no, Electrix and all their hard work is dead and gone. > > Stephen > > > > << to get my hands on a virtual repeater, but I'm not even sure if the > software ever went on sale... from what I can read on the net the > software was being launched in fall 2007 and Electrix went under in > early 2008. Did any copies of the software ever ship? Can it be > found used anywhere? Was it purchased by anyone?>>> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 19:15:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C88EE3BEA0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:15:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237403742; bh=xhqOnuYsY08T2CMA2px8InCUtfj+K4Hha6DPN6AIRvc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CD9Z8q8pgCxZ7h9DDVBm2AnbtX9g4NxWo0TL0q2QCO/J/c86T7aFZYlJnKjS5DDt7qz9WCWT8rhcEQAFdm1TEkRFl1LHpHnMDN000nr4Z3h5M8c6Ep6rSB16UXRSuUbXVrvUblW+PL1TiR/0pulSJxUE5+fFlWrNbyacgBuebek= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IR0OmtP3sumimdmALL9Xri+Ag3aKBW4gIgxH59W63DwD8thLIgYeVp4E2ZNv5IpDcGoH+IxdgbmdgLIehScFB6hdh2xBRb74zfh2UCcZVOwUQAxj/E3QPyouYlz+51roe0lKvkq/ej7hNy4tYLuTNEkcHsBL/imKCBB8PGCX8eM=; Message-ID: <535942.84104.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: x8uo1jcVM1kgDOiWj0vFd1kpnqIzWVVD7KE1MWIAs37elSj1Fs9d5Eplf43UR.fYBlGXeSfbcqRn3LV7Jax4gX2GwQFuMWMUrCCpiwVy60eWpulqXEtVHe.r_wNRZMmIQxvJ_LbbjHaqp9LHcQy6SaliEc4Nog8cwUtQQQ.azNfKwsHYZ2bzEqp0MkotbWxWMsjGB4EKsYDAKjFvxiFNrpwUApR6ChTLF.ImqDfAFQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: why no love for noel redding? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:15:43 +0000 (UTC) i think people didnt love him because he looks like Bob Dylans grandma as j= immy hendrix always introduced him=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A= =0A=0A--- On Wed, 3/18/09, E Gross wrote:=0A=0A> Fr= om: E Gross =0A> Subject: Re: OT: why no love for no= el redding?=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday= , March 18, 2009, 6:28 AM=0A> "Little Miss Strange"=0A> is a nice bit of '6= 0s pop just warped enough to not get=0A> any radio airplay..........written= by Noel Redding=0A> =C2=A0=0A> The album it is on, "Electric LadyLand" is= =0A> in my top 5 list.....=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> From: Douglas=0A> B= aldwin =0A> To: Miko=0A> Biffle ;= =0A> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Sent:=0A> Wednesday, March 18,= 2009 8:49:08 AM=0A> Subject: Re:=0A> OT: why no love for noel redding?=0A>= =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Yo crew - =0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=0A> think poor Noe= l got the short straw for a number of reasons.=0A> IIRC, he joined the Expe= rience with promises of becoming a=0A> guitar player in the band and having= his own songs recorded.=0A> So he was a frustrated guitar player stuck on = bass. Then=0A> he's playing with two of the greatest players ever -=0A> Hen= drix and Mitchell. And can you name one song he wrote=0A> besides "She's So= Fine?" Then he's=0A> drugging and drinking and groupie-ing like only a you= ng male=0A> in his 20's in the late 60's could, alongside Mr. H,=0A> who wo= uld out drug/drink/grope everyone right up to his=0A> death. And the band w= as being hyped as THE GREATEST THING=0A> SINCE JESUS and they were being to= ssed into grinding=0A> tours=C2=A0with mismanaged money and riots outside t= he=0A> concert halls.... So poor Noel just couldn't keep up on=0A> any fron= t - musicianship, songwriting, excessive lifestyle,=0A> crappy business.=0A= > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 And=0A> Miko, yeah, Jimi was one of the sloppiest play= ers going at=0A> times. Again, it was par for the course. But man, give me= =0A> "Machine Gun" at the Fillmore! Jimi changed our=0A> DNA. Sometimes I c= ry when I think of his dying.=0A> =0A> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A> =0A> Music is= going to break the way because music is in a=0A> spiritual thing of its ow= n. It's like the waves of the=0A> ocean. You can't just cut out the perfect= wave and take=0A> it home with you. =0A> -- Jimi Hendrix =0A> =C2=A0=0A> W= ave on, wave=0A> on....=0A> =0A> Douglas Baldwin=0A> Alpha Coyote=0A> coyot= elk@optonline.net=0A> www.TheCoyote.org=0A> =C2=A0=0A> "The purpose of musi= c is to sober and quiet the=0A> mind, thus rendering it suseptible to divin= e=0A> influences."=0A> -- Thomas Mace (17th century), transmitted to Gita= =0A> Sarabhai, as told to John Cage=0A> =0A> =0A> ----- Original Message --= ---=0A> =0A> From: Miko=0A> Biffle =0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com=0A> =0A> Sent: Tuesday, March=0A> 17, 2009 5:32 PM=0A> Subject: Re: OT= : why=0A> no love for noel redding?=0A> =0A> This has nothing to do with my= personal feelings for=0A> Noel=E2=80=94it's impersonal.=C2=A0 It doesn't m= atter who=0A> played the parts (but I guess the player had to have a name,= =0A> so I used it.)=C2=A0 Realize that I LOVE the entire band and=0A> have = unbelieveable, life-changing memories surrounding my=0A> first-hand witness= of the music.=C2=A0 (Meaning I was there=0A> to see it=E2=80=94first tour,= second tour) But when I sit down in=0A> front of the monitors and listen, = I have perceptions I'm=0A> not going to ignore due to personal bias.=0A> = =0A> There are always considerations regarding how one ended up=0A> with xy= z (whatever results followed)=E2=80=94but the resulting=0A> document still = has specific sonic qualities.=C2=A0 Just my=0A> humble, honest opinion.=C2= =A0 Would it be safe to say=0A> Hendrix was sometimes a very sloppy player?= =C2=A0 *-)=C2=A0=0A> (Ducking NOW!)=0A> =0A> To cleanse any sullifying dama= ge my sacriligous statements=0A> may have caused, I command you all to go h= ome and watch=0A> "Jimi Plays=0A> Berkeley" tonight and revel in absolutel= y amazing,=0A> skronky, beautific, Hendrix bliss.=C2=A0 Be sure to add=0A> = plenty of your favorite beverage or potion..=C2=A0 -m=0A> =0A> =0A> On 3/17= /09, scott hansen =0A> wrote: =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= > =0A> wow-i read this and thought "why no love for=0A> noel?" he was a you= ng kid (early 20's if?) who=0A> thought he was auditioning for the new anim= als (house of the=0A> rising son), and got thrown in the world of JHE. i th= ought=0A> he was a good bass player for the experience. yes, i know=0A> the= re are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums that jimi=0A> played a lot of the = bass stuff (i'm not up on my=0A> everything jimi did history in the last 10= yrs or so), but=0A> give the guy a break. he was just playing the bass in = the=0A> band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and=0A> mixing. WHEN = I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old,=0A> IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME= . when i still listen to this now=0A> that i've hit mid 40s-i'm amazed at t= he maturity of=0A> the writing and the adventurous nature of the music-all = done=0A> by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and remember=0A> the = lead singer/composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of=0A> 50's era educat= ion-& he was african american-a lot=0A> of the odds=0A> were against him!)= . that, and the fact that the guy got=0A> shafted for his part of what he c= ontributed, and he died a=0A> few yrs ago at such a young age (wasn't he in= he=0A> mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please!=0A> end of my rant...=0A= > s---=0A> =C2=A0=0A> Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I ca= n=0A> listen to Zep, =0A> > Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the b= ass is=0A> adequate (for =0A> > the day)=E2=80=94I just don't find Redding'= s bass=0A> that satisfying. Mitch =0A> > Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there= with Bonham in my=0A> book! -m=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Miko Biffle=0A> Biffoz@Gma= il.com=0A> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com=0A> "Running scared from all the usual= distractions!"=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 19:25:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09F9F3BEA4; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:25:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "vsyevolod@yahoo.com" , "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:25:50 -0500 Subject: RE: Virtual Repeater Thread-Topic: Virtual Repeater Thread-Index: Acmn8n138Dvx3MWKQs6UY89NsW6LJQACXj8w Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA321EC@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <20090318131910.1FAEB3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <7Zj1w.A.WqB.BrUwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:25:54 +0000 (UTC) > The Virtual Repeater was very close to being finished Does anyone have first hand evidence of that? I paid fairly close attention to this back when the hype machine was rolling and never saw anything that suggested it was more than screen mockup, a PowerPoint presentation, and a lot of tantalizing advertisements. They made some vague comment about their "distributed development" department which I read as "we don't actually have any salaried engineers yet". You would think if it was very close to being done they would have updated that embarrassingly contrived YouTube video. It was so freakin' obvious. He starts by demoing the Hardware repeater, then he moves over to the virtual repeater and "operates" it to show that it does the same thing. There were four rows of loop waveforms that never changed, even when the loop was empty. The transport counter never changed even while it was "playing". The only thing that moved was the bouncing level meters and the highlighting of the selected track. Quite amateur really. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 19:30:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DF393BEA6; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=6TH9g7eE9Dl+KL0/erz2vhd59SJ7ZNXOjCn5nKXDJG4=; b=qDFDJl7uaFAMYb8DLqLVuKvyEfbpKyrsQT7MU7PO0GruXB5ps/Mp6VasyobZhIDRhL uK9oJZWUCyCA2nKyknWIuUxEEXeUWOKnESD6yEAFln72EDNkJgGeYhQanbheWY0c0O2o Gp2t//O7P1v3vVimQAW4csYXJkBNtIwD5ZqMo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HHPkn+OcumRtANjdv4zeNmYMmzFyxGv34+Umc8cPEGFKIIIla5LBm1BQSTeemEMWEi 8hy5k5Z8/gHUOqfGrMUgRIs88l0JUwsNfMPb1sh0tgpIoQLXbgBsvVMDgqHg54Wdb+aB aNL/QD/vR+eBAqU6RLiRnpRlwgpyqQ+ZZ2cxo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA321EC@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <20090318131910.1FAEB3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA321EC@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:30:43 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903181230p11d0026cl8529fc65c0bc8c39@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:30:44 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > The only thing that > moved was the bouncing level meters and the highlighting of > the selected track. =A0Quite amateur really. Suitable looper for a Spinal Tap laptop then ;-)) (thinking about that Stonehenge model...) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.co From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 19:39:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3A3C3BE9E; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237405179; bh=+zoywlRtjz3rjpLnoXvzTx8PKlM6c/3DihCpCFaddyw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Qb5HdQrIOIvRA4eHiHjvJltoPd53LC0ktMx/vbJXahjsbKwzJctgT3dnBM3YXR9ohlYLQligNvqH640gDy8VBoZmDMZr93btPh33kVz7fJUskYKGFYDs6xaRs/cwZ3FaBaG6UVKRlOpVKULxS3odEp6ydJRpF3hNHLk/UoDFzTg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4mxTY1Ypn04oDE/DpVnCbvILvjhoPHIWdJXZmDt0kSoFmITuSxUyDURTl2KSldgnWWk+A/6ni41OU9IfH6EeyHpg3q6+8bdT7iYSr3S6Lalpa6B9Els7xZHdliQRofZLKeVE+DfhG04Hic880rtMva/FDRREGswQW3PZuh8u7LE=; Message-ID: <892287.81441.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hb1avRwVM1k0hoMDv2iRJRuiIa6a2L5qwrpd4S3N.cVLzQ7QWRqsN2Y0kxKpR.efGK1y3sdNJ1Eo3xxVA.cIB9vE54s.7RnaczAb77vKxLgLv9RHqWsn5gmtgnnShibo5cMjp35p97SH439cB5DulG7HwLp2zgMV7lHyf5QWac1WfoReZ38IjmLDRuLycBlbG3c- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Firewire mystery question To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi gang, i have a mystery tale to share: i mentioned previously that all of the sudden my RME card wasn not working and soon after that my Presonus firebox stopped working as well. i remeber conecting and reconecting my RME between my PC and Mac,then all of the sudden it stopped working.I sent it to the company and sure enough the FW port was broken. So then i conected temporarily my Presonus from my Mac to my PC which was working ok,did a gig the next night and the following day presonus is dead as well,so ive sent it recently to the company to get it repair. Now i got my RME back from repair conected it,updated drivers,turned it on and it still wasnt working,tested it with 2 FW cables,with my PC and Mac but nothing so i called the company and resent it back. I just got it back today with a letter from the company saying that the card is working perfectly!! so i am going nuts here trying to figure out what has happened,my question is ,is it bad conecting a FW card between mac and PC? the only other thing i can think of is that my FW bus card on the PC is gone bad,but on my mac as well? Do you guys have any ideas,would it help changing the texas Instruments buscard to another slot or do you think is fried?i also find it hard to beleive that the FW port on my new macbook has gone bad as well and i have no way of testing because i dint have any other cards around,or is there another way to diagnose if a FW conection is bad on both Mac and PC? thanx for your help Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 19:54:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB1C33BEBA; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:54:28 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 231579.18517.bm@omp402.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237405668; bh=D1XrbYSVQAFX7QR9vn1fex/0O5BCeiHAOip6kCmxyEw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D6xWSI7wMg7zhj9T+UjMN4HthnutwxMLjS6IdAp4OuIpswUrTRsz9MX+pb+Evlb7V3RAg9LB9UH+O6s8YFJqiDPC8Yz7cFMbzAAGgdjhIYaU6vnzMXfgxWl3ZD2+u3/1lxbgT8kiyJ71u1cnolMWiUNjACxzDRINNllfgnhTiqo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2tPX0u4AVWfH4J+lwwL+6Y847yCXlsDRdbdPm1FYpjkdiGuypPuodXjysAVjYSqLm07vgChSrmaw1DWkAf3nAJI4FzY7NWarD/oxCbUSjv8gZLY/7mj4J9P1GAEldo5nZJPjz46LruFfdV07r30ygXZcpHQ6wXJHKzF4S+xGewo=; Message-ID: <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: XZedtQEVM1kBLDBDgyTBnpQW_XBCDDZ.9LCrU73YJpxCUbnrdgJHjG_nSk4ZdfJsFz0AZbf6C6vO1f7IO4dXyDroNK64xq58q3WDUSII4bF0D.c3Fzpj44i5DLY.j4VbmIq0byvvTzU5hEi8QRM3R9q5j9XstouxlyYCysG3ocim8DsQEXz0SIz8Lxi.cSOCjZ1d5xWQxJaNWkiOaBbShD8qTDoP0qokUoAsV6dAHzh3UE_rtZ3SG0ebH7bu X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Virtual repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1666795764-1237405668=:65617" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:54:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-1666795764-1237405668=:65617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Per,=0A=0AIs there an example mp3/youtube link to demonstrate what you a= re referring to?=0A=0AI did a google search and came up with this, is this = the type of loop stretching you are referring to:=0Ahttp://www.uline.com/BL= _8750/?pricode=3Dwh903=0A=0ASeriously, I=A0 am still a newbie and if you ca= n give an example of repeater time stretching that would be great.=0A=0ATha= nks,=0AEric=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Per Boys= en =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: = Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:04:10 PM=0ASubject: Re: Virtual repeater=0A=0AI= 'd guess not, because none of the recent time stretching algorithms=0Adoes.= The won't invest in a new algorithm just for a looper plug-in.=0AEh... I t= ake it you're talking about the sound of the Repeater=0Aalgorithm here? Tha= t quirky lo-fi gnarling with the greatest feel to=0Ait.=0A=0AGreetings from= Sweden=0A=0APer Boysen=0Awww.boysen.se=0Awww.perboysen.com=0A=0A=0A=0AOn W= ed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Art Simon wrote:=0A> How ab= out the looper in the upcoming Ableton 8 version? Will it do=0A> time stret= ching like the repeater did?=0A=0A=0A --0-1666795764-1237405668=:65617 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Per,
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Is there an e= xample mp3/youtube link to demonstrate what you are referring to?
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I did a google search and came up with this, is thi= s the type of loop stretching you are referring to:
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Seriously, I  = am still a newbie and if you can give an example of repeater time stretchin= g that would be great.
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Thanks,
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=0AFrom: Per Boysen &l= t;perboysen@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual repeater

I'd guess not, because none of the recent time stretching algorithms<= BR>does. The won't invest in a new algorithm just for a looper plug-in.
= Eh... I take it you're talking about the sound of the Repeater
algorithm= here? That quirky lo-fi gnarling with the greatest feel to
it.

G= reetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 = at 6:48 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
>= ; How about the looper in the upcoming Ableton 8 version? Will it do
>= ; time stretching like the repeater did?


=0A= =0A --0-1666795764-1237405668=:65617-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 19:58:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D3623BEAF; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vWLDMyDzQTpiY1JOjgil7Ax6lrsMm+GGiz1map5Xdo4=; b=cGm/Rw86RF6yeUFYfoLYMpt9b8PMfNxQ4CzBUH8sq845yZ14SoOi73+YDzp9z+Tlgw td/3Ul0+VvmBnSi3uFSKutSV9D4hngrt9Abahy3pnEYAOXHc8gQn8QxllYIWMiPnL5pT lN+UBRi52UyKGeJwaL0WuHOJHYNH8hwe25iFM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=i2flDYmuD64sfnVYHhePhcEIPmSzJZBClYmSBRIwMD0avSthxF7FbI57q2XVrcYRId oLyL7nRRFN+DU4ZMuarFYskYRETSoODZEOONRpvKOVZEjxrUoAWBXKJ90kn+wsJfTmfY 3J29wQi4nail/ljn+Ai2AZ7rGdSjIKSYZgHxQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903180952h447f7d5k4affe247cc67ca1d@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903180952h447f7d5k4affe247cc67ca1d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:58:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903181258x1a23c10jd097582322200fbc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd48300f48f4704656a1c33 Resent-Message-ID: <22wufC.A.SKD.9JVwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:58:54 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd48300f48f4704656a1c33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I belong to several forums and while I get notification and in some cases, the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to log into the for= um. So it's another step I don't want to take. I know Yahoo Groups, where we d= o CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum architecture. -m --=20 Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd48300f48f4704656a1c33 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I belong to several forums and while I get notification and in some cases, the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to log into the forum. So it's another step I don't want to take.=A0 I kno= w Yahoo Groups, where we do CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum architecture.=A0 -m

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"Running scared from all the us= ual distractions!" --000e0cd48300f48f4704656a1c33-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 20:01:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3504F3BEC1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=UlA/RxgzcTmmu/x9E8synHIJRur8P6yVA+8n0+8Ewyo=; b=hBfA8/snOEGCX/XBwIKZFVYewT8dMgbSxO6WHRxJq+4E4yDTY9AxDmuY1CFb/xc+sj yOgi+aM7mJqEt7nSa4NDUm4u6TYQK0x4nEEBjDPCO/B602WKZuMtfVrQ2WEM7Z40VhXv wOyEaUBzUFn3dEO3pGZX1KypekuAQtQNHxQxM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Se87hRBOvG4QGm498p9YGlbyDepHcPuv53c26ev/snusfzOD2XfUFLYnE5Y3Q+STXn dmaWqeYCvEZSHuuDxFs7wObC7r+vHLcbYxsZJ/JXDfUPZX0zbuJelYGrnp4a48gnCOvA i62BLt/F/89NgWUCiqWE3FEHEk/fne21rVm5k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903181230p11d0026cl8529fc65c0bc8c39@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090318131910.1FAEB3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA321EC@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181230p11d0026cl8529fc65c0bc8c39@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:01:12 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1147f45ea3333ba6 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903181301j154da8eeq14b8539e80c12646@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d59e1f361db104656a2578 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:01:14 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d59e1f361db104656a2578 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My repeater goes to eleven... rson@sailpoint.com > wrote: > > The only thing that > > moved was the bouncing level meters and the highlighting of > > the selected track. Quite amateur really. > > Suitable looper for a Spinal Tap laptop then ;-)) > (thinking about that Stonehenge model...) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.co > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d59e1f361db104656a2578 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My repeater goes to eleven...

rson@sailpoint.com> wrote:
> The only thing that
> moved was the bouncing level meters and the highlighting of
> the selected track. =A0Quite amateur really.

Suitable looper for a Spinal Tap laptop then ;-))
(thinking about that Stonehenge model...)

Greetings from Sweden

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www.perboysen.co<= br>



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--0016e6d59e1f361db104656a2578-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 20:08:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBCFB3BEC1; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uV8dRnXG/nnyXW5QMjFz2TpPEnORQNLRsT9KfCftdBk=; b=OGODpiwLwboMd1QonO52TlV8j0SAyMVaXkGxpy6ORf5jm8GVVtyL5rSz1vqe/pqX4v pGy5Z1rouzdM2KViBnsvlMZmrHXCfRd84GVTzD27QYTuqA9pH6zssxwkq9GN/UJu3eUC 0xYez8mnjBehilKi+MMB7puwxGBkmHq88qfeI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w364wAqn13Kp95WToLxq6qWDlPWfAiDQIEpqhi5p69fclojoGPgBxqtmJ9uJuRe+qD nKi0Zgmkei4g7RL/yL04poKqUaa2gKiBya+Kj2lFLFbd7PMz4O6yD6uKDaF9uDP5tNz3 GaEySIX3IQKhETgm3Q9x9ISm8obHFjnmJ7GcY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903181301j154da8eeq14b8539e80c12646@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090318131910.1FAEB3BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> <346855.908.qm@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA321EC@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181230p11d0026cl8529fc65c0bc8c39@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903181301j154da8eeq14b8539e80c12646@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903181308o787d885at3082aec84192e047@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:08:31 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:01 PM, mark francombe wrote: > My repeater goes to eleven... and mine's gone to heaven. p ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 20:15:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63FB73BEBA; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:15:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bvQBMrQ/p/pPquy8SaNzB5G5whsbSJ8cyg5iq4y4UOU=; b=miyX95lGJv0GjNtiXJGbcocAHhftQR0kqmoS0Opelmdr6gUJPNFY3yjnQ87xUSjul8 StqQH8fTnL/FlLhePHoOostJtj3siS25flu49Ri99PvViHLwDkW9LAygjCRvL1Ruwb8x nyqloCtBaIwB+V+mo/LsJmoxT0jeffLlfMZY8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Wy0tv1hdc3XI56/4DILbR40y9z+a8BItmQcKlizBYo/R7n9RBRabRXbC8kLWoExHyB BVzb07c08ydA3/e9NGRCO373LS5HnL7dsmKgMFcywj0s+YPj3Go/Uq3JV1YX0P5GhF/M iU4fUwDu6MVB0Gtwp1DRocrpANSPAuGFO7mcI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:15:17 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903181315m23c423e4y2230c980b24c972@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:15:18 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM, E Gross wrote: > Seriously, I=A0 am still a newbie and if you can give an example of repea= ter > time stretching that would be great. Best is to borrow one or go somewhere where they have an old Repeater. Then record something on a and pitch it down two octaves. That's the nicest sounding audio artifacts known to mankind. Spice it up with reversed playback. I never thought about documenting that sound mangling goody when I had a Repeater, but maybe someone else on this list did? Many of us still keep Repeaters around. Any one got a pitched down slow-mo 'peater recorded online? Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 20:18:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67CA43BEA6; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pbEl56zxpFnp7ba/KBMDx/MEZfZmUUd+qR8PZXj9x0o=; b=VxCAm1cJuIheD6lv5mgaTIxIuA4xgRJ7enyOdOGeqKDK+o31ATlDZtpJqeuT85SVmw JR1pQk8sm5VwwnEXSx4iDQ+wb3M+PFsiFKh5Z4xp6PKt1iJzZVkxjnuck8dy/wYq7/Ll 3HjrADT12CzwjE1ed/SCMHdVQA7zYbHp9ntYo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CNvxMdd8gdwCfbVEVx4Con2CrhPt2ZS95FjlTrDLrK4MTW4pVuxhylv8OLtl0JKeWA flw2xV+hCnaf5xAJTldxgoxRAd6PbDt2QSzWu10IuPHkJFDDgqLuWhfatqSbv9QX3Qia e1hIce5bWlf6lIrMH18jpkYdRurNAWxn0Ntj4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:18:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 051972007acfb94f Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903181318l20e2d3cayc7cbe3968ad678b2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f86ffad4205c04656a6266 Resent-Message-ID: <1J9EmD.A.qKE.TcVwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:18:27 +0000 (UTC) --001485f86ffad4205c04656a6266 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can make one for you now if you like... On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM, E Gross wrote: > Hi Per, > > Is there an example mp3/youtube link to demonstrate what you are referring > to? > > I did a google search and came up with this, is this the type of loop > stretching you are referring to: > http://www.uline.com/BL_8750/?pricode=wh903 > > Seriously, I am still a newbie and if you can give an example of repeater > time stretching that would be great. > > Thanks, > Eric > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Per Boysen > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:04:10 PM > *Subject:* Re: Virtual repeater > > I'd guess not, because none of the recent time stretching algorithms > does. The won't invest in a new algorithm just for a looper plug-in. > Eh... I take it you're talking about the sound of the Repeater > algorithm here? That quirky lo-fi gnarling with the greatest feel to > it. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Art Simon wrote: > > How about the looper in the upcoming Ableton 8 version? Will it do > > time stretching like the repeater did? > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001485f86ffad4205c04656a6266 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can make one for you now if you like...

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:47 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>
Hi Per,
=A0
Is there an example mp3/youtube link to demonstrate what you are refer= ring to?
=A0
I did a google search and came up with this, is this the type of loop = stretching you are referring to:
=A0
Seriously, I=A0 am still a newbie and if you can give an example of re= peater time stretching that would be great.
=A0
Thanks,
Eric

From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com= >
To: Loopers-Delight@= loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18,= 2009 2:04:10 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual repeater

I&#= 39;d guess not, because none of the recent time stretching algorithms
does. The won't invest in a new algorithm just for a looper plug-in.Eh... I take it you're talking about the sound of the Repeater
algo= rithm here? That quirky lo-fi gnarling with the greatest feel to
it.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



On Wed, Mar = 18, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about the looper in the upcoming Ableton 8 version? Will it do
= > time stretching like the repeater did?

=




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--001485f86ffad4205c04656a6266-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 20:20:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9ABA3BED2; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DF+pN7hL5x8IxtI64dTNEAOb4uh0IEB33tw/oG+Oo8Y=; b=dyaCrkPYrAT2yh2PhhJ0KV8qDUGAuVD0tnu0p+0qNJxLDOweFdsngJ+KZAQPMqIvhH v1hzGWqXXuIplW+ybDH3HDF953WFpx4invGO22xKXvZ1eXVfQnNBwFUcb6rQvVaMSNML jZMmZEx+NIJukNOeSHLRe6IWnwbXvme/+ZFxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qTj22GReCto+uNoASgAA5Ml2X4tllXskpBSGf+8HR/cCX60KbFHw7G24zikKF9xlDQ Tt42c0wSkGoLWyQLKqsYJE6fDkk0rAZJjiaHfbt9t/1dL9sU/7lQTcnjYOrOwbtC4+ye kKc4o+uwiYZs5nod7B+bSRutvQs/OPZ8s5Dv8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30903181258x1a23c10jd097582322200fbc@mail.gmail.com> References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903180952h447f7d5k4affe247cc67ca1d@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30903181258x1a23c10jd097582322200fbc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:20:31 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2950a4fe14104656a6a18 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:20:32 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2950a4fe14104656a6a18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If there is a worse forum software package than Yahoo Groups, I don't want to ever find out. TH On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > I belong to several forums and while I get notification and in some cases= , > the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to log into the f= orum. > So it's another step I don't want to take. I know Yahoo Groups, where we= do > CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum architecture. > -m > --000e0cd2950a4fe14104656a6a18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If there is a worse forum software package than Yahoo Groups, I don't w= ant to ever find out.

TH

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:
I belong to several forums and while I get = notification and in some cases, the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to log into the forum. So it's another step I don't want to take.=A0 I kno= w Yahoo Groups, where we do CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum architecture.=A0 -m

--000e0cd2950a4fe14104656a6a18-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 21:09:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DABA33BE93; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g1hF4N9gHWjMcahv/RMW4bUQhFFRJdlGrMHzlidm7Eg=; b=Gr/xS9mh7w+Hs1nrhubiRXDeK9tZi0i1/77KlzcIJnPRUBrTrC8dyp88b8Bc0SRZ7Q HYbZaXA06/RySpTHPsKvmQOpbt56Rz49EF79FOcDkImwC+cFVxkm3sJSYfoyCPr6i/GY kc17jtEe0t7scpYXp681ts/o9OK3h7vaTOR9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=VpGRMVJsWRYywvOv10JpC9IdYgkghASaRuZ+XMH9DsKuNS9uCqmipod7LqwR2Yq0tQ MVhuUWwjy3iyxQXXWT3E1tECbHDRmuWITpYgfgfI+l3iJiD/4S80s9yOHnqLlmeWFcl6 qhRZ89YlOv1Kb+vDgBdObJvKT8+Nkdu3d3BK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <49C0F950.8404.127BFBB@nick.1957.me.uk> <66f9cc1e0903180803v193259c4ve89efc2bfecd02c8@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903180952h447f7d5k4affe247cc67ca1d@mail.gmail.com> <3fa302e30903181258x1a23c10jd097582322200fbc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:09:33 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903181409v201cfddr4dd70366347c4881@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd303bca94b0204656b198d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:33 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd303bca94b0204656b198d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree Travis. It's more like a mailing list, but there's still a page. It's ironic that it's the only "forum" that I can simply reply to via email without having to go to the forum URL. -m On 3/18/09, Travis Hartnett wrote: > > If there is a worse forum software package than Yahoo Groups, I don't wan= t > to ever find out. > TH > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > >> I belong to several forums and while I get notification and in some case= s, >> the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to log into the = forum. >> So it's another step I don't want to take. I know Yahoo Groups, where w= e do >> CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum architecture= . >> -m >> > --000e0cd303bca94b0204656b198d Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree Travis.=A0 It's more like a mailing list, but there's still a page.=A0 It's ironic that it's the only "forum" that I = can simply reply to via email without having to go to the forum URL.=A0 -m

On 3/18/09, Trav= is Hartnett <travishartn= ett@gmail.com> wrote:
If there is a worse forum software package than Yahoo Groups, I don't w= ant to ever find out.

TH

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:
I belong to sever= al forums and while I get notification and in some cases, the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to log into the forum. So it's another step I don't want to take.=A0 I kno= w Yahoo Groups, where we do CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum architecture.=A0 -m
--000e0cd303bca94b0204656b198d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 21:09:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 871343BEBA; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:09:29 -0700 From: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:09:34 +0000 (UTC) here's a forum/board that i'm part of. I like how this one works, well eno= ugh. Perhaps a scaled back version, with subheadings per relevant categori= es? http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/index.php ---- Travis Hartnett wrote:=20 > If there is a worse forum software package than Yahoo Groups, I don't wan= t > to ever find out. > TH >=20 > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: >=20 > > I belong to several forums and while I get notification and in some cas= es, > > the body of the email, I can't reply via email=E2=80=94I have to log in= to the forum. > > So it's another step I don't want to take. I know Yahoo Groups, where = we do > > CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum architectur= e. > > -m > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 21:29:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 527B03BE94; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 280491.686.bm@omp409.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237411754; bh=iYalTD/G9YgsZzijPGdJgq5H0/bLv++p5BRWjUQhKm4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gjNEJ8JPQbDm9XMJhJuEZqB436bY20yiMVH8Xv0IZPyd+v3VMrHM9jLgbE/Uis7+vGaIbVpGCX6OBuQZvdQvTBl4h89ksjDS3jqZAa90n6l5RGUj9eoeJSc62N68pol6y2N6J6yEXYquoJnkAchkRff7lYZlvZkNPlp48Ud72hk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C7qxxNDi2ttvHwmLI0RiEmLwuGK1f/j2uLHz/+4Bv4HWkqY/REZ3wxEDj3Z4sskIhQMxRqHZSAGX/bft/IcWEsptOr6/3VLLd2C69MP0VLCYpFDaDmV7IMpt/WkN1TFiqcWBr4UoryBf/FkNNwRXC0cJfXNjwp+wGGxdruldNkM=; Message-ID: <595821.30166.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 27_FQIAVM1k8QMZ.DEbJAqKtAXRGPQEdM994MJD2UJ1_a1d8uWakUTc5uIO4_R9cVm69mLnikzINKW_8PAVyn1ogP0UnK58yEXh54NquYpizWE4EXBrpIvrVtL_J5u9JcZWiJSEqxTNILA7SxsLFV1bXpX9pPVlpVIpOiGgzBqUj4b32ZgjzObTiwMXSXv3c57one86bqE7Ba5PYdYC9l0VSgYhVSNOKC30Kq5jgjCuOZ7gFGCiyK57alBeuKZonYw25uMOz1Rn0QR6JtgSWDg1K12EZ00k- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181318l20e2d3cayc7cbe3968ad678b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:29:14 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Virtual repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-308602035-1237411754=:30166" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:29:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-308602035-1237411754=:30166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark,=0ACool! If you want to that would be fine, if not that is ok too. Unf= ortunately this looping stuff is still new for me, I don't know any other l= oopers locally, so Per's suggestion to try one will be difficult -- anybody= from the Philadelphia area=A0have a repeater I can borrow? I promise to gi= ve it back when I am done with it ;)=0A=0ABTW, I listened to your gig recor= ding and the transitions seemed so natural, I need to go back and listen ag= ain more closely to hear=A0how you accomplished that.....very nice.=0A=0ATh= anks,=0AEric=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: mark fr= ancombe =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0ASent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:18:25 PM=0ASubject: Re: Virtual repeat= er=0A=0AI can make one for you now if you like... =0A=0A=0A --0-308602035-1237411754=:30166 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
=0A
Cool! If you want to that would be = fine, if not that is ok too. Unfortunately this looping stuff is still new = for me, I don't know any other loopers locally, so Per's suggestion to try = one will be difficult -- anybody from the Philadelphia area have a rep= eater I can borrow? I promise to give it back when I am done with it ;)=0A
 
=0A
BTW, I listened to your gig recording and the= transitions seemed so natural, I need to go back and listen again more clo= sely to hear how you accomplished that.....very nice.
=0A
&nb= sp;
=0A
Thanks,
=0A
Eric
=0A

=0A=0A
=0AFrom: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com= >
To: Loopers-Delight= @loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:18:25 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual repeater

I can make one = for you now if you like...


=0A=0A --0-308602035-1237411754=:30166-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 21:34:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECCEF3BE93; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:34:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=mvuxbqAaVJuECQCP82VOCkQJ2oe4d5XzaGKFduiZWKM=; b=v7z2Om0LYuM1KA3ewJAeMk/64or2p2dOxDZRmtfWztkJDkYbCb66wpYji4nbMXM7PV 1HhcG2QfYva4Kw6Lo/+ahIwK/FnfVgl/Xs3sbb3S4VVbj9QP9LoMcD6wbu7y8uuNtt42 l62P9ZDXlF3LqYXZhGfeTSuGs/16DiDcLp/Yg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=QCqds9kyb5zH7SszLql7WrA5A1HVbMxrtKb4dDvC/XwWZB7nBnx77dp/CRNi74LcQC mr5NA78Tp2UX3qVcLCT4cvD5RREYBSklspJ8Mlx6xxzGK0aYpfi2BIlYyybjxEaLURrS pJJ1P6YM/qD07A/ZyZF4wkEf7nKBOiNgT9JdQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> References: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:34:02 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 49ef36a1f05eb30e Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903181434hef5949dy28e371bd42b5a64@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ab873e247c04656b7144 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:34:03 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ab873e247c04656b7144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry mr toyroom, but thats what I HATE about forums... hundreds of topics.= . where DO you start???? I would like to ask why you hate Yahoo Groups actually, Travis... its not as good as this LD mailing list, but its ok ... isnt it??? OK... Last time I will comment on this discussion: What I wouldnt mind is this. A MAILING LIST like this one... where I can reply via mail. The mails are then placed on a forum, with topics created a= s are threads in Gmail. Thats it!!! Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging. If I can (probably via the forum view) go in and TAG a thread as... SOUND MANGLERS, or REPEATER.. or MOBIUS... then that whole thread NOT ONLY appear= s on the front main page (Lets call this the Gmail view) but also in a SUB Catagory called that thing. Tags should be chosen from a predefined list, there should be multiple tagging available, therfore threads can be in 2 topic "folders".. That way it would build into a resource... BUT MOST IMPORTANT... is to have this threaded latest post google view... that can b= e mirrored in email. ... and if one comes along, I WIL NOT participate unless the new owber has figured out, and agreed with Kim (who is, I believe still the owner here - but mysteriosly absent) that he will take over, and WILL somehow transfer the old database to a new system... something that I think will not be possible, or at least not with out some headaches. So... lets stay like this, and be very happy? love and peace m On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:09 PM, wrote: > here's a forum/board that i'm part of. I like how this one works, well > enough. Perhaps a scaled back version, with subheadings per relevant > categories? > > http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/index.php > > > > ---- Travis Hartnett wrote: > > If there is a worse forum software package than Yahoo Groups, I don't > want > > to ever find out. > > TH > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > > > > > I belong to several forums and while I get notification and in some > cases, > > > the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to log into t= he > forum. > > > So it's another step I don't want to take. I know Yahoo Groups, wher= e > we do > > > CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum > architecture. > > > -m > > > > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5ab873e247c04656b7144 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry mr toyroom, but thats what I HATE about forums... hundreds of topics.= . where DO you start???? I would like to ask why you hate Yahoo Groups actu= ally, Travis... its not as good as this LD mailing list, but its ok ... isn= t it???

OK... Last time I will comment on this discussion:

What I wouldn= t mind is this. A MAILING LIST like this one... where I can reply via mail.= The mails are then placed on a forum, with topics created as are threads i= n Gmail. Thats it!!! Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging. If I can (pro= bably via the forum view) go in and TAG a thread as... SOUND MANGLERS, or R= EPEATER.. or MOBIUS... then that whole thread NOT ONLY appears on the front= main page (Lets call this the Gmail view) but also in a SUB Catagory calle= d that thing. Tags should be chosen from a predefined list, there should be= multiple tagging available, therfore threads can be in 2 topic "folde= rs".. That way it would build into a resource... BUT MOST IMPORTANT...= is to have this threaded latest post google view... that can be mirrored i= n email.

... and if one comes along, I WIL NOT participate unless the new owber = has figured out, and agreed with Kim (who is, I believe still the owner her= e - but mysteriosly absent) that he will take over, and WILL somehow transf= er the old database to a new system... something that I think will not be p= ossible, or at least not with out some headaches.

So... lets stay like this, and be very happy?

love and peace
=
m




On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at= 10:09 PM, <thetoyroom@charter.net> wrote:
here's a foru= m/board that i'm part of. =A0I like how this one works, well enough. = =A0Perhaps a scaled back version, with subheadings per relevant categories?=

h= ttp://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/index.php



---- Travis Hartnett <travis= hartnett@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there is a worse forum software package than Yahoo Groups, I don= 9;t want
> to ever find out.
> TH
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Miko Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I belong to several forums and while I get notification and in so= me cases,
> > the body of the email, I can't reply via email=97I have to lo= g into the forum.
> > So it's another step I don't want to take. =A0I know Yaho= o Groups, where we do
> > CT-Collective stuff does this, but it's not the usual forum a= rchitecture.
> > -m
> >




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--001636c5ab873e247c04656b7144-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 21:39:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 699AB3BE94; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ywOGCBYe2xmMXD36yCvbOZYCqdmE/V4BzxOgA/hEm+I=; b=h3r5n3BLwtlkOidNQPyf5wXiBYMNGvUdenwM+f5IOMjPnjDgnTywwwIfnDzEBAY5TW dN7v7thr6jKhvLkJjnB4XD29owimSt1aSk4IitYFtE6rHn5G9QbYN/RpD95A0boXF5vl T5+DIyfkkL/H58u6QgnSziIVdT6datrd84zAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=qtvAmD7GlE2QmI6IYuLIrJcgpB/e/KVcK+7Q6auncre0RgKV7E+TwPWbaWjIFqt0zd DJVpm6E7lDfvm9aVoMi1Z0I7R2oneWCtzdKXu3RM2W4uNbk54Ux7cUNzwOmDqbMw9vYq kM/Yb1PUP8h+X1KcouveLx3GvuhKgurocdTnw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903181434hef5949dy28e371bd42b5a64@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> <9ab0c76f0903181434hef5949dy28e371bd42b5a64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:39:17 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903181439j721c2eecl4dbf998084d0e330@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:39:18 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:34 PM, mark francombe wrote: > What I wouldnt mind is this. A MAILING LIST like this one... where I can > reply via mail. The mails are then placed on a forum, with topics created as > are threads in Gmail. Thats it!!! Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging. > If I can (probably via the forum view) go in and TAG a thread as... SOUND > MANGLERS, or REPEATER.. or MOBIUS... then that whole thread NOT ONLY appears > on the front main page (Lets call this the Gmail view) but also in a SUB > Catagory called that thing. Tags should be chosen from a predefined list, > there should be multiple tagging available, therfore threads can be in 2 > topic "folders".. That way it would build into a resource... BUT MOST > IMPORTANT... is to have this threaded latest post google view... that can be > mirrored in email. > > ... and if one comes along, I WIL NOT participate unless the new owber has > figured out, and agreed with Kim (who is, I believe still the owner here - > but mysteriosly absent) that he will take over, and WILL somehow transfer > the old database to a new system... something that I think will not be > possible, or at least not with out some headaches. > > So... lets stay like this, and be very happy? > > love and peace Helluva frickin good write-up, Mark. I agree to everything! That's the way to go. Or else not to go at all. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 21:47:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 147693BEBA; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2047 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:47:06 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.1 X-EN-IMPSID: UlCn1b00A01P85W0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:12:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum In-Reply-To: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> References: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20090318214706.C59CF3BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:47:06 +0000 (UTC) When you get it hosted and running, you can post a link to it on the list. ;) At 2009.03.18 02:09 PM, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: >here's a forum/board that i'm part of. I like how this one works, >well enough. Perhaps a scaled back version, with subheadings per >relevant categories? > >http://vintageamps.com/plexiboard/index.php > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 21:49:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A77293BEBA; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=M6MOIUqGm4zlldipIxpIDAzFJgdSq96rk9/SBLmP3ks=; b=LgN6Nx2RlY8bPOaTxn/XyeqHbE4lmB5UW1m6gMxzDCVf1pqzIs+LRAhtovpwlBSqLH LeQB3BceN+Iub3BhzufWvlWer9myE4OFMV9PJ+a2kRxxZHHJ1SLDrz4xWiySsCX7e0/0 PaEw5Vk8I1aKQ+N5IwPorMiyKgmXx4D707rDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=nxyNopV45bGSCat5aZ8VKTAhvn3Hh49W4Sn0/KznqXCnNaXOdc3n6/AF5KAG/W3awS 44B/7aVUhLqrMISfjuazSgU4c8GmVorfignDXQSCMzldeu5udLlpESKYvxps1rxv7y8O jU/3hdevnC9vXBr4vuc8mt6a/ZWAWG+SMjRd0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <595821.30166.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181318l20e2d3cayc7cbe3968ad678b2@mail.gmail.com> <595821.30166.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:49:00 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1577b9ca85ca43e6 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903181449j1562d617lb3e1cd1e80e873c7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b179bc026404656ba6ea Resent-Message-ID: <_9OQYD.A.aNB.NxWwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:49:01 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b179bc026404656ba6ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK here you are Eric.. http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree/MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3 TIME STRETCH Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to 1bpm... while its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch about on one track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano". Basically the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th. Enjoy.. Mark On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM, E Gross wrote: > Mark, > Cool! If you want to that would be fine, if not that is ok too. > Unfortunately this looping stuff is still new for me, I don't know any other > loopers locally, so Per's suggestion to try one will be difficult -- anybody > from the Philadelphia area have a repeater I can borrow? I promise to give > it back when I am done with it ;) > > BTW, I listened to your gig recording and the transitions seemed so > natural, I need to go back and listen again more closely to hear how you > accomplished that.....very nice. > > Thanks, > Eric > > ------------------------------ > *From:* mark francombe > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:18:25 PM > *Subject:* Re: Virtual repeater > > I can make one for you now if you like... > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5b179bc026404656ba6ea Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK here you are Eric..

http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree/= MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3

TIME STRETCH

Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to 1bpm... while its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch about on one track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano".
Basic= ally the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th.

Enjoy..

Mark

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com= > wrote:
Mark,
Cool! If you want to that would be fine, if not that is ok too. Unfort= unately this looping stuff is still new for me, I don't know any other = loopers locally, so Per's suggestion to try one will be difficult -- an= ybody from the Philadelphia area=A0have a repeater I can borrow? I promise = to give it back when I am done with it ;)
=A0
BTW, I listened to your gig recording and the transitions seemed so na= tural, I need to go back and listen again more closely to hear=A0how you ac= complished that.....very nice.
=A0
Thanks,
Eric

From: mark francombe <<= a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancom= be.com>

T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, Mar= ch 18, 2009 4:18:25 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual repeater

I can make on= e for you now if you like...





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I then pitch about on one track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano". Basically the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th. THEN I sped back up, we hear the reversed tracks.. I go faster than original tempo, and cut all but one track, the reversed solo... then I dick about on th speed knob, (but could pprobably map tempo knob to a pedal, can I ..? I dont know... Anyway, its more visual at a gig to manically twist a knob) creating new phrasing on the part... holding on some notes, (just by twisting down to 1 bpm again and fast back up again to get the tune working again, a bit of reverb masks the glitchyiness , altho I left verb off earlier so you can hear repeater slow glich mush in all its glory) Thats about it.. Enjoy M On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM, mark francombe wrote: > OK here you are Eric.. > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree/MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3 > > TIME STRETCH > > Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to 1bpm... > while its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch about on one > track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano". > Basically the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known > amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I > like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th. > > Enjoy.. > > Mark > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM, E Gross wrote: > >> Mark, >> Cool! If you want to that would be fine, if not that is ok too. >> Unfortunately this looping stuff is still new for me, I don't know any other >> loopers locally, so Per's suggestion to try one will be difficult -- anybody >> from the Philadelphia area have a repeater I can borrow? I promise to give >> it back when I am done with it ;) >> >> BTW, I listened to your gig recording and the transitions seemed so >> natural, I need to go back and listen again more closely to hear how you >> accomplished that.....very nice. >> >> Thanks, >> Eric >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* mark francombe >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:18:25 PM >> *Subject:* Re: Virtual repeater >> >> I can make one for you now if you like... >> >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5b179d73feb04656bcfa0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I hit send before I had finished:

TIME STRETCH

Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to 1bpm... while its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch about on one track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano".
Basic= ally the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th.
THEN I sped back up, we hear the reversed = tracks.. I go faster than original tempo, and cut all but one track, the re= versed solo... then I dick about on th speed knob, (but could pprobably map= tempo knob to a pedal, can I ..? I dont know... Anyway, its more visual at= a gig to manically twist a knob) creating new phrasing on the part... hold= ing on some notes, (just by twisting down to 1 bpm again and fast back up a= gain to get the tune working again, a bit of reverb masks the glitchyiness = , altho I left verb off earlier so you can hear repeater slow glich mush in= all its glory)

Thats about it..

Enjoy

M

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com&g= t; wrote:
OK here you are E= ric..

http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree= /MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3

TIME = STRETCH

Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to 1bpm... while its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch about on one track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano".
Basic= ally the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th.

Enjoy..

Mark


On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:29 PM, E Gross &l= t;slapbandjam@ya= hoo.com> wrote:
Mark,
Cool! If you want to that would be fine, if not that is ok too. Unfort= unately this looping stuff is still new for me, I don't know any other = loopers locally, so Per's suggestion to try one will be difficult -- an= ybody from the Philadelphia area=A0have a repeater I can borrow? I promise = to give it back when I am done with it ;)
=A0
BTW, I listened to your gig recording and the transitions seemed so na= tural, I need to go back and listen again more closely to hear=A0how you ac= complished that.....very nice.
=A0
Thanks,
Eric

From: mark francombe <<= a href=3D"mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com" target=3D"_blank">mark@markfrancom= be.com>Sent: Wednesday, Mar= ch 18, 2009 4:18:25 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual repeater

I can make one for you now= if you like...





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http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch



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--001636c5b179d73feb04656bcfa0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 22:03:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A6173BECA; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:03:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49C170F7.1000705@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:08:55 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question References: <892287.81441.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <892287.81441.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5JI-K.A.l_B.W-WwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:03:02 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > i have a mystery tale to share: > i mentioned previously that all of the sudden my RME card wasn not working and soon after that my Presonus firebox stopped working as well. > i remeber conecting and reconecting my RME between my PC and Mac,then all of the sudden it stopped working.I sent it to the company and sure enough the FW port was broken. > So then i conected temporarily my Presonus from my Mac to my PC which was working ok,did a gig the next night and the following day presonus is dead as well,so ive sent it recently to the company to get it repair. > Now i got my RME back from repair conected it,updated drivers,turned it on and it still wasnt working,tested it with 2 FW cables,with my PC and Mac but nothing so i called the company and resent it back. > I just got it back today with a letter from the company saying that the card is working perfectly!! > so i am going nuts here trying to figure out what has happened,my question is ,is it bad conecting a FW card between mac and PC? > the only other thing i can think of is that my FW bus card on the PC is gone bad,but on my mac as well? > Do you guys have any ideas,would it help changing the texas Instruments buscard to another slot or do you think is fried?i also find it hard to beleive that the FW port on my new macbook has gone bad as well and i have no way of testing because i dint have any other cards around,or is there another way to diagnose if a FW conection is bad on both Mac and PC? > thanx for your help > Luis > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom IIUC, you're saying the RME still doesn't work on either the PC or the Mac. Does the Presonus work? With the PC or the the Mac or both? (sounds to me like a broken firewire card..) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 22:03:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED6123BED5; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:03:38 -0500 Subject: RE: Virtual repeater Thread-Topic: Virtual repeater Thread-Index: AcmoFPWzC5qGvBQdRqySElvcbmK0DwAAE9Gw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32279@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181318l20e2d3cayc7cbe3968ad678b2@mail.gmail.com> <595821.30166.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181449j1562d617lb3e1cd1e80e873c7@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903181500lc12c85dt54bee20e3ab31fc5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903181500lc12c85dt54bee20e3ab31fc5@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:03:41 +0000 (UTC) Nice! It's like a hurdy-gurdy, bagpipe, accordion ensemble on Quaaludes. =20 Jeff =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 22:10:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98B553BECC; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49C1716A.5070507@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:10:50 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Virtual repeater References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181318l20e2d3cayc7cbe3968ad678b2@mail.gmail.com> <595821.30166.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181449j1562d617lb3e1cd1e80e873c7@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903181500lc12c85dt54bee20e3ab31fc5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903181500lc12c85dt54bee20e3ab31fc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:10:55 +0000 (UTC) Lordy, that's delicious! thanks, Mark. Nice playin too. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree/MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 22:11:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1E433BED0; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fxrWxzZcqTmsvl2ibwV2D+7UXsYJogKZUMbwIl1VPdM=; b=TtZiyK9JRU+cED+La7youI9u7nfb/LoMeMmTGLs+6zwSFverQsBjmt8GIzgdCKWjwx iknjiygT8GjXc0Q978vwxj8WYXgDV34opauuSqUqTiDnUFcgrWrMVMTEVLljgzu/N+C6 oElvj9fwYIGN+hvyCaqjRoNo6CwUxnlfTKn2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=DqpGCcfXgOLGFQcd7fb0MYy1fkjot9zcl9Rk0nlQOIUBXKRRancNs+OfgtvWzZgI+a B51OF2i7zwEWYSa8rpIi2MoVZwY7TrLOUqOB6O1+REMnqMkrnrOPRNwQkEph9g8vdN5V mP6RZCuM2//eHf9QD6LZxqg5UroDeVE2jEFbY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903181449j1562d617lb3e1cd1e80e873c7@mail.gmail.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181318l20e2d3cayc7cbe3968ad678b2@mail.gmail.com> <595821.30166.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181449j1562d617lb3e1cd1e80e873c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:11:02 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903181511p70cbb863u28bc12bf6d04704d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:11:02 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM, mark francombe wrote: > http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree/MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3 Lovely noise! I just can't wait until a software can produce those artifacts! RiverRun by Audio Ease is the closest I know, but the GUI is not very convenient for external MIDI control (as music instrument playing loopists usually need) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 22:50:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 690473BE97; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:50:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 141367090/mk-outboundfilter-5.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$F2S-NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/f2s-nildram-customers/62.3.238.4/None/nick@1957.me.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@1957.me.uk X-MUA: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtYFAL8XwUk+A+4E/2dsb2JhbACCf5I4vlqDfAY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,386,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="141367090" X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:50:32 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <49C17AB8.19414.F142E0@nick.1957.me.uk> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> References: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:50:50 +0000 (UTC) On 18 Mar 2009 at 14:09, thetoyroom@charter.net wrote: > here's a forum/board that i'm part of. I like how this one works, > well enough. Perhaps a scaled back version, with subheadings per > relevant categories? Have you not checked out "my" forum? That's roughly how it's organised and we can add categories as & when demand warrants it. http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/ BTW, Andy Butler helped me sort out my jamman issue - I hadn't realised that the Sellon chip has control over how much dry signal is fed through and it defaults to maximum. Turn down to zero and the mix knob works as nature intended it ;) Nick Robinson music site : http://www.nickrobinson.info/music myspace site : http://www.myspace.com/nickrobinsonloops looping forum : http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 18 23:48:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1D53BE95; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237420116; bh=Ln+TrRj+KIZ/f09dbLQxdHx389ziGz9zF1DS0tOW0y8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LF5QlccskuB6ZZM4wtHKr/UsMoHhvZbhr3axbNU0csl9X3q8eEdhjDNE0Ovve7sfu6vIHCjf/TLaDO1Nr/J9cUi84kdgja9tLEdLw9q18AIarcFkNkgkbijfpb4x/JQYez8MlEP+ZVb+u1Cn4L+NS+A3+qd0BYnJ/bnw16+JvVQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RPNIM8JaRj9MZbhZHE5fLqVPimSLlROuZrSxkda2ta6oAn8AIcozdkcl5rkAqKuqRGskFLXCft0tCDMD9gY1E5aOeNRLkjFYk9iyFpoOV4R13VUzVakEjd8KP2L15ZspoXnOYohJ3jKox05i5wsqtLxxUhRHtAPJDYZYDyocFOo=; Message-ID: <213994.79369.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: X36tH3gVM1lOFeWQInNX4pyKBWGg5FZos0GugniSHBBLSGSWvO0400HUj0Vw3vTrPP_K7..dPZIgVkkta8ZPMDJgHCbcVp0wVyKnxSRF9QNoEMvr6tVQ2vpBdV3rj2koQwVLDFXSWTF726K6xoEcinJsMEXrYlvEgbH2sVebV_lfp62_xtRc6M1SAPl0 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Reply-To: vsyevolod@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090318220031.9B7323BED6@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, Just because the mock-up didn't convince you... doesn't mean that it wasn't almost ready. As I said in my previous post, the Virtual Repeater was very close to being finished... and I'm close to those who have inside information. Stephen <> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 01:14:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D46BA3BE8E; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2rN8Bi8t79xobqRyA/di93mRH/31XrB64qy+OO+LBmg=; b=Lu+AfT7GHDVs+1P/AL7Qe3M5Zp+XR7Yf+siNrXgDrecly7QJfNS3ZdGfbqamKON+g/ 8vCnJO7OJHWPagChTgazoMlXqhUAccksi3bm+nsGwfjRN541G+Nx3EAxvdz0K4X3/7HS S1sXqs9EtmnnloijsOnpdgwYpKMUOQFajw67w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wWobt7vFJYwJdTJFkUTEf/lFZg776sKxyGTSLVXM+ttqPfIFurGZTUU8VptVvVKBkX p2V2XYjrBg1BvU/FodYAdNKe/7iZKKQ0qdTOfPrn94iRmwDDnw+tE67DQLDJvx/h8ja1 lGjc4zTGtaJ6jch0YrGW7ktROR4M9VJ1Fsuf8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <892287.81441.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <892287.81441.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:14:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bf1fe15f75b04656e8569 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:14:21 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bf1fe15f75b04656e8569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ... dunno luis, just i'm doing this with my echo audiofires 2 & 12 regularly and the configuration changes i make in one computer are reflected on the other (pc&mac), since the card is flashed when shutting off the mixer app. 2009/3/18 L.Angulo > > Hi gang, > i have a mystery tale to share: > i mentioned previously that all of the sudden my RME card wasn not working > and soon after that my Presonus firebox stopped working as well. > i remeber conecting and reconecting my RME between my PC and Mac,then all > of the sudden it stopped working.I sent it to the company and sure enough > the FW port was broken. > So then i conected temporarily my Presonus from my Mac to my PC which was > working ok,did a gig the next night and the following day presonus is dead > as well,so ive sent it recently to the company to get it repair. > Now i got my RME back from repair conected it,updated drivers,turned it on > and it still wasnt working,tested it with 2 FW cables,with my PC and Mac but > nothing so i called the company and resent it back. > I just got it back today with a letter from the company saying that the > card is working perfectly!! > so i am going nuts here trying to figure out what has happened,my question > is ,is it bad conecting a FW card between mac and PC? > the only other thing i can think of is that my FW bus card on the PC is > gone bad,but on my mac as well? > Do you guys have any ideas,would it help changing the texas Instruments > buscard to another slot or do you think is fried?i also find it hard to > beleive that the FW port on my new macbook has gone bad as well and i have > no way of testing because i dint have any other cards around,or is there > another way to diagnose if a FW conection is bad on both Mac and PC? > thanx for your help > Luis > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0015174bf1fe15f75b04656e8569 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... dunno luis, just i'm doing this with my echo audiofires 2 & 12 = regularly and the configuration changes i make in one computer are reflecte= d on the other (pc&mac), since
the card is flashed when shutting off= the mixer app.

2009/3/18 L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Hi gang,
i have a mystery tale to share:
i mentioned previously that all of the sudden my RME card wasn not working = and soon after that my Presonus firebox stopped working as well.
i remeber conecting and reconecting my RME between my PC and Mac,then all o= f the sudden it stopped working.I sent it to the company and sure enough th= e FW port was broken.
So then i conected temporarily my Presonus from my Mac to my PC which was w= orking ok,did a gig the next night and the following day presonus is dead a= s well,so ive sent it recently to the company to get it repair.
Now i got my RME back from repair conected it,updated drivers,turned it on = and it still wasnt working,tested it with 2 FW cables,with my PC and Mac bu= t nothing so i called the company and resent it back.
I just got it back today with a letter from the company saying that the car= d is working perfectly!!
so i am going nuts here trying to figure out what has happened,my question = is ,is it bad conecting a FW =A0card between mac and PC?
the only other thing i can think of is that my FW bus card on the PC is gon= e bad,but on my mac as well?
Do you guys have any ideas,would it help changing the texas Instruments bus= card to another slot or do you think is fried?i also find it hard to beleiv= e that the FW port on my new macbook has gone bad as well and i have no way= of testing because i dint have any other cards around,or is there another = way to diagnose if a FW conection is bad on both Mac and PC?
thanx for your help
Luis
www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom







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--0015174bf1fe15f75b04656e8569-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 03:04:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AAA93BE8D; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <213994.79369.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <213994.79369.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <568F6378-645C-4ABB-AB7F-D1833491511F@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:03:51 -0500 To: Loopers Delight X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc179.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:04:24 +0000 (UTC) [S V G] > Just because the mock-up didn't convince you... doesn't mean that it > wasn't almost ready. As I said in my previous post, the Virtual > Repeater was very close to being finished... and I'm close to those > who have inside information. Perhaps. But here's what I don't get. If it was "almost ready" then it doesn't take hundreds or even tens of thousands of dollars to finish and distribute. If you've got programmers committed to the project they'll make it happen. Sales weren't going to give Adam and the other two principals a nice salary but what the heck, get it out there and recoup at least some of your expenses. This is of course pure speculation but something is fishy. Some likely possibilities: 1) They never had anything and did the classic vaporware play hoping for an enthusiastic response they didn't get. 2) They grossly underestimated how hard it was going to be to port firmware designed for custom hardware to a general computer OS with all the associated UI, performance, plugin hosting, and latency issues. It wasn't even half done. 3) They outsourced the development to relatively disinterested programmers with no financial stake in the product's success. Once the contractor money dried up, there was no one left that knew how to finish it. 4) There were really almost done but ugly internal politics shelved the project and the code rights now reside with one of the principals that doesn't know what to do with it. If the situation was close to 3 or 4 then give them my name. I'll finish it for them for a reasonable fee. I'm not bashing them, there were clearly some brilliant people involved in the company over the years. But their marketing and communication, bordering on arrogance, is among the worst I've ever seen. This isn't rocket science, lots of people can make loopers. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 03:07:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 729213BE93; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=f6Qr/ue9UZ+jgey4B2ixPAW3pGPITLxwslUP0qWwQ2M=; b=wNOM1OeG7zAtWvhei30ESxgFHJrJtzx8UocovJ/s/0IB/hLlGA0oac5K7YRvnD2TA0 OY4kceaRs0QkBk3QsFHPBQJrAAkOyXc1pStaHS23mb956MuRzn5Fj5ANDoifnvX9aYin BkaS3hLvpVSmLLTAdOxEIbEIBtSh8JqNlrf/M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Zz0MTFotKs7aSIpzwB04VKE138qnd0JWnxnta+X668NtPeEHMXghiA3eEmNpO5JELT wxQUoF7l62iYqdvwlLAfuP8R+apMycYIdhAipRkKwyGB4l1RJ+tyHsp//lnhHTv1b52F P6Kgc076BGnEhpLuDVZnUT8esXW2U8+A1juP8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <568F6378-645C-4ABB-AB7F-D1833491511F@zonemobius.com> References: <213994.79369.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <568F6378-645C-4ABB-AB7F-D1833491511F@zonemobius.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:07:57 -0700 Message-ID: <588ce11d0903182007w5fd6832na4a1c58fbcfc4231@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: Art Simon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 03:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Wow! wouldn't that be great! I'd chip in. Maybe we should start a fund raising drive : ) On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote= : > =A03) They outsourced the development to relatively disinterested > =A0 =A0programmers with no financial stake in the product's success. > =A0 =A0Once the contractor money dried up, there was no one left > =A0 =A0that knew how to finish it. > > =A04) There were really almost done but ugly internal politics > =A0 =A0shelved the project and the code rights now reside > =A0 =A0with one of the principals that doesn't know what to > =A0 =A0do with it. > > If the situation was close to 3 or 4 then give them my name. > I'll finish it for them for a reasonable fee. > > I'm not bashing them, there were clearly some brilliant people > involved in the company over the years. =A0But their marketing and > communication, bordering on arrogance, is among the worst I've ever > seen. =A0This isn't rocket science, lots of people can make loopers. > > Jeff > > --=20 Art Simon simart@gmail.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 07:36:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D0993BE89; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237448206; bh=qP5RF09HdAnlkZlQTHyP0BFZAJ+hmZd/iy1UEcXpVMI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FHAMcfMj8sJHPYVW0ACLMzjwJFQj9L9tcEAEAymUqqDsoXgG5kfcb/N4K/kUmVccOmUeSksOnNfu1jvbyjTW6tPG2JPhFB43cEuiezpKd3YOxFpdRy80y6dEiT7B37RPa/jbYxiKR7hSHICEgsO1Dw9Kl5bY636teQoM8ffQ58k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gd24VuhQzSRCFvMQrvSfHkjcVc9MGHk5WwQTLZxYtAYmitAofMtQZePL3HVD8HndsNZkl2nLRCCQR9GDy1348CdHJxAdqmIKe3NJdgHPza+TIpAMRmr+89lopov3HLhlcqVfkNbd290qA6/f455Jw+eC8WYsz5DI/NKO9ELbM8A=; Message-ID: <936058.95974.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: O33pG5oVM1m2w5IJnrUP0R5lEt_i1eFMFqcYsUhoObTL5hpfVo6b02uf3AeX6pb0X90zRds22id3_d5zWT4_Z2hwaOo3FSnoriqnD66r8lG2mCPRUep8I8NR0fCD2p4mI__04CvybUWnqKSuFvHOJ8AjV.7br6apbOe0jp133fT9RSGQogbuYlb4sncTsJs- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:36:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <6I7tMB.A.6FG.QYfwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:36:49 +0000 (UTC) I cannot test it with the presonus because is gone back for repair to the U= S(which probably was not necesary if the FW card is broken;-(=0Athanx=0ALui= s=0A=0A=0A> IIUC, you're saying the RME still doesn't work on either=0A> th= e PC or the Mac. Does the Presonus work? With=0A> the PC or the the Mac o= r both?=0A> =0A> (sounds to me like a broken firewire card..)=0A> =0Awww.my= space.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 3/18/09, van Sinn wrote:=0A=0A> From: van Sinn =0A>= Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 3:08 PM=0A> L.Angulo wrote:= =0A> > Hi gang,=0A> > i have a mystery tale to share:=0A> > i mentioned pre= viously that all of the sudden my RME=0A> card wasn not working and soon af= ter that my Presonus=0A> firebox stopped working as well.=0A> > i remeber c= onecting and reconecting my RME between my=0A> PC and Mac,then all of the s= udden it stopped working.I sent=0A> it to the company and sure enough the F= W port was broken.=0A> > So then i conected temporarily my Presonus from my= Mac=0A> to my PC which was working ok,did a gig the next night and=0A> the= following day presonus is dead as well,so ive sent it=0A> recently to the = company to get it repair.=0A> > Now i got my RME back from repair conected = it,updated=0A> drivers,turned it on and it still wasnt working,tested it=0A= > with 2 FW cables,with my PC and Mac but nothing so i called=0A> the compa= ny and resent it back.=0A> > I just got it back today with a letter from th= e=0A> company saying that the card is working perfectly!!=0A> > so i am goi= ng nuts here trying to figure out what has=0A> happened,my question is ,is = it bad conecting a FW=A0 card=0A> between mac and PC?=0A> > the only other = thing i can think of is that my FW bus=0A> card on the PC is gone bad,but o= n my mac as well?=0A> > Do you guys have any ideas,would it help changing t= he=0A> texas Instruments buscard to another slot or do you think is=0A> fri= ed?i also find it hard to beleive that the FW port on my=0A> new macbook ha= s gone bad as well and i have no way of=0A> testing because i dint have any= other cards around,or is=0A> there another way to diagnose if a FW conecti= on is bad on=0A> both Mac and PC?=0A> > thanx for your help=0A> > Luis=0A> = > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> =0A=0A> -- rgds,=0A> van Sinn=0A> =0A> = =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 08:03:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA57A3BE8E; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237449796; bh=GbwHi5V9vla2XBAB+iN0AETmn4SUCXq/WvJbQPduF9c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vT7aY+7t+UlykCh9MI8pbYeWadMBFRw5AhdsSTs2NaBetInaYQfW1RYKMc8B+7mj+9ruGHN1snXrtmIJADKkx8YV2nO8Gu1GysMa8tyBvH7JTD5aiFioC8TDpXT+z+64xiDUbkOsbIXxgX9mbeKYnAC6/LPIjOkTtZbUPdSJtFs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UBX6b+eJAuZKj4EAmVqD2lFptE6UFZElctUQ6UAYsIZMJdUbX7MD2J7BospB9pRvs639v69yJ2/LDKe74hLsFI2j5SwdQEiJyU4C8THqE4nt5P0VnnXoxNr401BpWZrG+MhGjq+L5Mv/751j1WanvbEgCqSSWDm8Jou5kpyr01Y=; Message-ID: <927796.31055.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rqra3F4VM1kI7A6p6YEJzHwcJEki5lEwOB50LLgtwLOkltMq_hrBPTs4G5TTm51osYzhmvoDZnmxrwnM4PMYIO9fQg2f6yog_qpIqzS2o17y75l4.J9dzxcYi9dkR5mYkAn4SVMG0rCkK79nWWmQFYD1fCPlRDm_gC46x9Q8kgiHNHdlmDVq1tKX X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:03:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: new videos: live soundtrack for sundown at lake! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Nice Matthias it has sort of an asian feel to it! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ricky Graham wrote: > From: Ricky Graham > Subject: Re: new videos: live soundtrack for sundown at lake! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 2:32 AM > Very nice, Matthias! > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matthias Grob" > To: "Loop List" > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 PM > Subject: new videos: live soundtrack for sundown at lake! > > > > Around 2001 I played a series of performances at > sundown on the > > esplanade of lake Greifensee, Switzerland. Its a > fantastic experience > > to create a live soundtrack on looping guitar for the > biggest and > > never repeating show on this planet :-). > > > > The material was mostly edited in 2003 but we could > not finish it due > > to iMovie problems. > > > > Now its finally at > > http://youtube.com/matigrob > > > > the sound has very few edits: > > in the first part I glued 2 different pieces together > > in the second part I took 2 short bits out, should not > be noticable > > > > I could not find anything similar on the net yet ;-) > > enjoy! > > Matthias > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.17/2007 - Release > Date: 03/17/09 > 10:18:00 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 08:13:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDC143BE8D; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=1uH1wpahqsxocDEWN8t5brzSbqtIFkRoJMpDBJBniX8=; b=UPYVwTFpJCX0abFZp4egwgpyOLIgaqyVmk0BinlXvcpVjJu+xqE5iCFWRG4LFvBwx7 +5beYick8Rb8S/Gc5ESEgjFoT80cvI9QEQNdgVj0f092gOKc2qeYUapoCSnh95RppyFF Ua8VL5RxNpYtXC4Zu5bUMV93OZaQt6jkVbk+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=kbWWefCuGVbQd6VSK1EI/cPQ09O0AVFWriMXi756RhJeEfUaRVEBMkRKrguSBnaS3U FMMdOcbg21BsL6jD843GVjxd/zz/nqRTK3loq7ue/Q/in2QJBmHtLKv6tBLO7GY+X+nJ JjbO9qQlI34JppkIKxjhsL9U8o9S7x6b03MYA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <568F6378-645C-4ABB-AB7F-D1833491511F@zonemobius.com> References: <213994.79369.qm@web52808.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <568F6378-645C-4ABB-AB7F-D1833491511F@zonemobius.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:13:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 36199d27fc35b6d0 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903190113n79b26069jae03aa31962c595c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a2d868187a0465745f7f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 08:13:19 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a2d868187a0465745f7f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW... what a fantastic evaluation, Jeff... As a dedicated Repeater user I too were pissed and annoyed by Electrix over the years, promises, teases, then silence... Im sure honesty to a group like ours would have given them more cred $B"*(B better reputation $B"*(B better brand $B"*(B better sales. I for ONE, would love to try to organise some kind of continued support for the hardware software. The last version was almost complete for me, and although I believe the software lies with.. hmm forgoton his name right now.. the guy who is doinf the noise floor mod (which I must get round to someday) I dont know who the RIGHTS to the software development lies with.. tied up in a complex bankrupcy package? Surely if 100 users could all agree a very short wish list of improvements, and agree to pay 100 dollars each, it would be worth it for a programmer? Shoot me if Im being a twat... but couldnt something simerlar ne done with the software version... Hell... Jeff just offered!!! Lets get on to it guys? Send some mails!! M > > If the situation was close to 3 or 4 then give them my name. > I'll finish it for them for a reasonable fee. > > I'm not bashing them, there were clearly some brilliant people > involved in the company over the years. But their marketing and > communication, bordering on arrogance, is among the worst I've ever > seen. 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--=======___Eventbrite___=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 09:13:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 414BD3BE87; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:13:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <49C1304A.90703@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: Volume sensitive chorus VST? (Vortex) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:15:33 +0100 Message-ID: <004801c9a806$4af35160$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmoBJD73T52tHxxTHSqNa5/GZxDQQAAZtrw In-Reply-To: <49C1304A.90703@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:13:50 +0000 (UTC) > you just need to add an envelope follower (a bidule) and hook up it's output (parameters) to regulate the speed on any vst chorus. thanks Os and Andy. Oh I know so little. But I'm getting there. :-) -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 09:18:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CFB83BE8B; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:18:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:18:03 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903181439j721c2eecl4dbf998084d0e330@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090319091803.273150@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> <9ab0c76f0903181434hef5949dy28e371bd42b5a64@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181439j721c2eecl4dbf998084d0e330@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum - Tagging To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19311RdZvx3iyXxHHlEmMs327FAHCuvLlUc1828gi NR+mQXcVnMTmhmC+RCXgb9+bLDZuEMQKKtbg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: nGiwadcLeSEqash4kHUh6SR+IGRvb8DC X-FuHaFi: 0.57 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:18:05 +0000 (UTC) > Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging. Actually, this is something we could start informally already by simply adding "tags" to our mail subjects. I think I suggested this before, for example: - "Brother Sync issue [EDP]" - "Midi slave problem [RC50]" - "TheFruityLoopers on tour [GIG]" - "Mac AU [MOBIUS]" - "Live 8 features [ABLETON]" - "Rang3 available? [BOOMERANG]" - "OT:Promoting your CDs [BUSINESS]" - "Recommended Firewire Interface? [HARDWARE]" - "Ever used Reaktor in Looping setup? [SOFTWARE]" - "Recommended flight case? [GEAR]" - "IEM? [GEAR]" - "Checkout this New Looper from Mongolia! [LISTEN]" - "Does tap dancing improve my looper timing? [TECHNIQUE]" This way, we could (autmatically) organize the mails within our mail software. Regards Buzap -- Aufgepasst: Sind Ihre Daten beim Online-Banking auch optimal geschützt? Jetzt absichern: https://homebanking.gmx.net/?mc=mail@footer.hb From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 10:19:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72F073BE89; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 166522037/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.171.139/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.171.139 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As4BAC+5wUlPTquL/2dsb2JhbAAIjH3FMoN8Bock X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,388,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="166522037" Message-ID: <49C21E41.3010105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:28:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: LD Mailing list archive tips Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:19:24 +0000 (UTC) Here's the LD archive where you can search for stuff. http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive The archive has a well deserved reputation for not finding what you want, just typing a word gets you way over the 50 hit limit, you just get the 50 oldest matches. Putting in two words with space between might be expected to refine the search...it doesn't...you'll get nothing. So here's the format for refining the search An example, if I wanted to search for patches for the Lexicon Vortex I'd type vortex;patches note: the semicolon is the way that you tell the search engine to only find posts with both words in, equivalent to "AND" or "&". Don't follow the link to "help on patterns", that used to work once, but will now lead you to a site where you'll spend quite some time to find the info, and when you do it's totally wrong ( completely different search program afaik). If you know the email of someone who'se likely to have posted good info, then that can be used in the search too. edp;soundfnr as my old email was soundfnr@aol.com, that search neatly brings up my first EDP posts, ...amazing how much I got wrong about the edp :-) Scrolling down the search page, there's "Restrict Matched Files" where you can select the date by CTRL+click on as many months as you want in the listbox. "Max Files Returned" defaults to 50 hits , if you really want loads of info, you can put it up all the way to 1000. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 10:34:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C1C23BE90; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003f01c9a87e$4ea14fb0$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <49C21E41.3010105@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: LD Mailing list archive tips Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:34:39 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:34:30 +0000 (UTC) Thanks so much for that info, Andy. I'm sure it will be very useful. It's good to know that I'm apparently not the only one who has found the LD archive search extremely frustrating. I had all but given up on it. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: "LD" Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:28 AM Subject: LD Mailing list archive tips > Here's the LD archive where you can search for stuff. > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive > > The archive has a well deserved reputation for not finding what you want, > just typing a word gets you way over the 50 hit limit, you just get the 50 > oldest matches. > Putting in two words with space between might be expected to refine the > search...it doesn't...you'll get nothing. > > So here's the format for refining the search From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 10:49:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CE653BE90; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pzomT+LwRsTi28m/jLliEhP9dHJan/A22u7iOcE6FoY=; b=LS5vI7Mx+8FkzKWaelIwFAuBZleGle8QHVBIAfYQQeX1WfTmVlz3YLC9xSWRY4KkOO WYV9KmWmqYhLDqJPivdmlm9+Meu6a/XmjUK0iN5GuiQMpjI2SloN4b+JidUxsmFRN3CS 0uQQTfxqxucrCTSORPXl7CSTSTgoGfXlPQSXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eJJtfI1n2SATE2gF42Z6lnUx2t9YDhuUfA6e8dYpmRzzzmlaaSCYPCN7HMhwZ3I/HN Qy9QPlIH5RuC1kt1EHpkMkW1V7O7MNHu1kjmL0LMJhq8YRf6osa8zFzzcobNsndkZlkO yY/NEZA1dax07oAe7iRbGjwhJ+F5LOniR9tNc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <20090319091803.273150@gmx.net> References: <20090318170929.ZOR1U.2812970.root@mp18> <9ab0c76f0903181434hef5949dy28e371bd42b5a64@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181439j721c2eecl4dbf998084d0e330@mail.gmail.com> <20090319091803.273150@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:49:05 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 78e406f55fc5850f Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903190349rc2e8081ve39024c9d7020ce9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum - Tagging From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c9245793c80d0465768cc8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:49:07 +0000 (UTC) --001636c9245793c80d0465768cc8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great Idea Buzap.. now all we ned is a forum, where you can post this as a sticky... DOH!! On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > > Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging. > > Actually, this is something we could start informally already by simply > adding "tags" to our mail subjects. > > I think I suggested this before, for example: > - "Brother Sync issue [EDP]" > - "Midi slave problem [RC50]" > - "TheFruityLoopers on tour [GIG]" > - "Mac AU [MOBIUS]" > - "Live 8 features [ABLETON]" > - "Rang3 available? [BOOMERANG]" > - "OT:Promoting your CDs [BUSINESS]" > - "Recommended Firewire Interface? [HARDWARE]" > - "Ever used Reaktor in Looping setup? [SOFTWARE]" > - "Recommended flight case? [GEAR]" > - "IEM? [GEAR]" > - "Checkout this New Looper from Mongolia! [LISTEN]" > - "Does tap dancing improve my looper timing? [TECHNIQUE]" > > This way, we could (autmatically) organize the mails within our mail > software. > > Regards > Buzap > > > > -- > Aufgepasst: Sind Ihre Daten beim Online-Banking auch optimal gesch=FCtzt? > Jetzt absichern: https://homebanking.gmx.net/?mc=3Dmail@footer.hb > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --001636c9245793c80d0465768cc8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great Idea Buzap.. now all we ned is a forum, where you can post this as a = sticky... DOH!!

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 1= 0:18 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

> Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging.

Actually, this is something we could start informally already by simply add= ing "tags" to our mail subjects.

I think I suggested this before, for example:
- "Brother Sync issue [EDP]"
- "Midi slave problem [RC50]"
- "TheFruityLoopers on tour [GIG]"
- "Mac AU [MOBIUS]"
- "Live 8 features [ABLETON]"
- "Rang3 available? [BOOMERANG]"
- "OT:Promoting your CDs [BUSINESS]"
- "Recommended Firewire Interface? [HARDWARE]"
- "Ever used Reaktor in Looping setup? [SOFTWARE]"
- "Recommended flight case? [GEAR]"
- "IEM? [GEAR]"
- "Checkout this New Looper from Mongolia! [LISTEN]"
- "Does tap dancing improve my looper timing? [TECHNIQUE]"

This way, we could (autmatically) organize the mails within our mail softwa= re.

Regards
Buzap



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Aufgepasst: Sind Ihre Daten beim Online-Banking auch optimal gesch=FCtzt? Jetzt absichern: https://homebanking.gmx.net/?mc=3Dmail@footer.hb



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http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--001636c9245793c80d0465768cc8-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 11:55:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C5FA3BE93; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=bXS6qrYgg04A:10 a=WZOj7K5PLF8A:10 a=oS1mvlP0AAAA:8 a=GO7gGZRvCPUjZeuFqRAA:9 a=28YzXcKgMrAMyffJ-ZUA:7 a=gPRezFIyzeWHAlDM3dglcYQxkGMA:4 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 Message-ID: <49C232AD.7000505@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:55:25 +0100 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Join the loopers-delight team on the World Community Grid Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi We all have idle time on the mega-computers we use, I have recently created a loopers delight team to share this unused computing power for non-profit scientific research projects that benefit humanity. All you have to do is join the world community grid org and download/install a little program that will use your computer while it is idle and send back the results as they are done. It is safe, secure, has 450 000 members around the world Check it out and join the grid and our small LD team http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/ thanks Claude Voit PS: as I am the team manager (Calude) of the LD team I will spam this list every month or so to gather new members. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 13:17:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF5D83BE8A; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49C245E2.4040105@Verizon.net> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:17:22 -0400 From: Dan Ash User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Virtual repeater Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:17:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a classic improv, Mark - good job. Also love that pentomixolydian 7th scale. Dan Ash White Plains, NY > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM, mark francombe > > wrote: > OK here you are Eric.. > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree/MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3 > > TIME STRETCH > > Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to > 1bpm... while its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch > about on one track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano". > Basically the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by > known amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own > invention that I like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th. > > Enjoy.. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 13:56:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEBFC3BE89; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=NyNoMYAZChfuOG3XJU1TfZt4wfqgcCj4qYnnyy1JkJw=; b=vUwwrvjOH0baOwY+U294fZHie0b4KIAZbFAKaiiAg5x1TlA/+8ikspMnSwp5m/hEAz ixt0CNn6fDLLgQ6V9DHyEM2/MKy9I5S5LphU1AAxZwwPITstJ+TNSlHX1edN9UxiXjQN iU2F0ylS1x5+kNjtozE92+84L8fWB9Hze6uxA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=q3McULOnXFYefk2w9d15DrqMMZyGFtOj9KmsjGagdj03/60t1ANVRnY3fCgz/j7GCa OJuV2soy4SWj3oRJatn1CRqfmg0TJYnvL3PhJBypAfvI3rRdSsAtMqAQCYP4bwuSvOvh PlBCQTZClMeu9mUsE1joaFR0PZGK+Pu/3zP5Q= Message-ID: <49C24EFA.4080609@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:56:10 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new mac mini with fw800 ... hoooorra! References: <66f9cc1e0903050019n7b8d4c7n6a7ed8a1cedd5b0b@mail.gmail.com> <28322945.1236443067153.JavaMail.root@m05> <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> In-Reply-To: <49B967AC.9050004@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Bill Fox schrieb: > Macbook Pro (I assume firewire is required): from $1999 > Mac mini: from $599 My good old Powerbook just died the day before a gig. Furtunately my Father could quickly lent me some money and I got a brand new white MacBook with 4 GB of memory. It does have firewire for my Quatafire, it has decent fast graphics (its time to get into Jitter) and was 980 Euros. In the U.S. you should get it for the same in $... Compared to my old machin its blazingly fast and has more than 4 times the memory I was used to in the past. I got it 2 hours before the concert, installed Max, copied my patch and all worked like a charm... Only drawback is the size. Its significantly bigger than my 12". But still, my whole rig fits easily into hand luggage. I guess a mac mini with a small screen and a foldable or small keyboard woud still need more space... Best of all, I can work on trains again, as it also came with a brand new battery... ;-) I would say that is the best deal for a roadworthy Mac. If its still too much I'd get a netbook... ;-) my 2c Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 13:56:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C39673BE95; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=0yj4nAMDnzVJDgaD95zlKBcfRX9gSJH887TXxyZk9zE=; b=LR8h9U5FSXHmMfhrb6CmlQMQ/PPIESA6AWlJUyJkSmVWF2cRh/ag/7hgbY338v46H2 ybSsvV/iFNNO05Fsr3d/j0YD4DKQf0P5ap/2U6H/VQBQyh5xaVzRU0dNKLmIZOsc40OI uM4njo8LMlsKbvrzHi9xLQ3qHgvJFyQId3Rew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=w3QX5G6et0hPi8zvZfunKddx+SAYi1SsHADDOK3uUbutHShC9SI+mKcn9lUDD2XNki mYrF5KbEVo/gm624lePwDpevSDdeywvP33+ghsAjX/+/REyk+PPB+PeMQbUnEfYdqexy CTqnzQExBg7pytxQHdRGLDDsrjRLew85OGaGg= Message-ID: <49C24F22.90703@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:56:50 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst compressors References: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters schrieb: > ... first of all, I need a compressor. for some reason, my favorite > kind of compressor sound has always been an extreme setting that > reduces the string attack to almost a mere click, and then keeps the > volume constant, turning the decreasing string vibration into an > almost linear sustained note ... Max is coming with omx compression objects. They can't be included into pluggos though (for licence reasons), but they would work in Max/MSP Runtime. It has millions of tweakable parameters. Next time I come to your place we can give it a try... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 13:57:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA4FB3BE8D; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MU3QWyDVNTTrCWKuIWptwqb36K2OTJrYRES72T2sEBI=; b=jpAz27l3NvUnmJZPc40KHeVge/ZrHTDzlpZ/V+At68zh+JwGSiSS+2LV1H2yz2wsXz 5Mw2TjTRjs0u8eMJ11B/B/GV38DyIrKG2j25trW9Ab6x5HP3XlyARgXsnhhPLbdUfNF3 PLSh6tKeJYh3u7y9/M4HJSE9047OdOlxkRq6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PI8aFK1ak55qkwL1aRJfHITSkENVXk4KAkg27nP2N/CNtEytoE0enPCOQs8GQmn2DI pobn9zQX2dFdFaX4LOjFCGPdGYaH3yJ1DsJzWkrwH7J4cc9HmFqq5efMS5VcNn2g0pDf 27Vfr8OwajON7GmJ48FpUQFLU9dKIYlOpGnSg= Message-ID: <49C24F47.4030204@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:57:27 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DIY midi controller References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-zswSB.A.A9E.H9kwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:57:27 +0000 (UTC) Andreas Willers schrieb: > Since Per brought this up: would it be possible (and how much worl is > it) to build a midi controller (foot, hand or whatever) yourself? There is a board from Doepfer which should allow to do that easily... -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 13:58:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 436AE3BE95; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=d5/ik1LDyR8Lf3B1mjprW6PZg6c1D+9cTqe3hgk2X+U=; b=Zxu9GmhWBtTOlH9krmQhihKwtDDElo2mTre1VajkDfm83EC/j1C9k5qjHAa5niEGbn s37qobd2dYO87nMnfrg3fqGO5S/eRMIotTbchTaYInO+5QkXYxdiAQxzQDTkuvLQLP4I 8to+JaDFO2NPjCy2FDHx3RmR0pG+cSpXDVyd4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pCNEiz1OXmCchvG3UNmQijbx/I6SQR3hIr7WyPFsqnKpuR8ci8Pe35cQBWmBj6tIAs lcQNqxZ1s3SBv5r/XIsO2kvRZfXlGAWsnJ8Qy6wf8fbk0kGoJH/C2FOjSLd6TMvv0xmf Aa2K1SZ9uPhdGPZHAeknfNrl61vjFXDI+2Sl0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <49C245E2.4040105@Verizon.net> References: <49C245E2.4040105@Verizon.net> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:58:29 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d15230162a8bd52b Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903190658r701efea2xa998b06f93038031@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual repeater From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d64688e95c4a04657931ad Resent-Message-ID: <7xfGuB.A.3AF.H-kwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:58:31 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d64688e95c4a04657931ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks... Its just meant as a demo of the Repeater time stretch Dan... nothing more... On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Dan Ash wrote: > This is a classic improv, Mark - good job. Also love that pentomixolydian > 7th scale. > > Dan Ash > White Plains, NY > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM, mark francombe > mark@markfrancombe.com>> wrote: >> OK here you are Eric.. >> >> http://www.markfrancombe.com/empathree/MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3 >> >> TIME STRETCH >> >> Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to 1bpm... >> while its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch about on one >> track using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano". >> Basically the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known >> amounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I >> like to call the Pentamixolydian 7th. >> >> Enjoy.. >> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d64688e95c4a04657931ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks... Its just meant as a demo of the Repeater time stretch Dan... noth= ing more...

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:17= PM, Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@verizon.net> wrote:
This is a classic= improv, Mark - good job. =A0Also love that pentomixolydian 7th scale.
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Dan Ash
White Plains, NY

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:49 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com <mailto= :mark@markfranc= ombe.com>> wrote:
OK here you are Eric..

http://www.markfrancombe.co= m/empathree/MISCELLANEOUS/TimeStretch.mp3

TIME STRETCH

Starts normal, I bring in a few tracks... then I slow it down to 1bpm... wh= ile its there i reverse 2 of the 4 tracks... I then pitch about on one trac= k using "Per Boysens Itchy foot Piano".
Basically the FCB1010 footpedal is programed to pitch one track by known am= ounts to make a scale.. in this case a scale of my own invention that I lik= e to call the Pentamixolydian 7th.

Enjoy..





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--0016e6d64688e95c4a04657931ad-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 14:07:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD0BB3BE93; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <49B74FE3.50005@cruzio.com> References: <49B74FE3.50005@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:07:31 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT Distortion looping rig Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <6rxRcB.A.DTF.rGlwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:07:39 +0000 (UTC) At 10:45 PM -0700 3/10/09, Rick Walker wrote: > >I'm really excited with this setup and there is so much to learn about it. Ganbatte, Rick!!! I was surprised when I started doing ambient noise sets how liberating it could be. Not only the live improvisation aspect (as we all already know from Live Looping), but also completely freeing oneself from tonal centers or traditional harmonic theory. No theory to interfere with an immediate visceral response. (standard disclaimer: of course you can just as likely manipulate a similar emotional response through traditional modes, harmony, and note choice -- I just ain't that good, though) It's kind of like live instantaneous sound design, and can be quite cathartic. Glad your debut went so well. >The wonderful people at Analogue Haven, rushed me out a >Devi Ever Eye of God (which has a photo sensor that allows you to control a >feedback loop for simple but wonderful psychedelic wash effects >and it arrived on the day of the gig, but It had stereo ins and >out and I couldn't get >it to work in mono................. Wha?!? Rick, I'll check the docs, but I don't believe that Devi has yet experimented with stereo devices. It could be some weird new prototype, but I'm pretty sure the EOG is still mono only. If you can describe what you tried and what kind of issues you were having, maybe we can help debug. And, speaking of feedback loops, one of these hit my doorstep this week: http://thesquarewaveparade.com/perversincentiv.html I'm hoping to see what weirdness I can cause by mating this with that circuit-bent PS-2 I mentioned a coupla months back (which, BTW, also makes a pretty good "delay-line"-style Looper, as it turns out). --m. -- _____ "when you think your dreams are shattered, it's time to dream new dreams" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 14:07:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 299563BEA4; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:07:38 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: RE: Virtual repeater Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:07:41 +0000 (UTC) At 11:55 AM -0500 3/18/09, Jeff Larson wrote: > >People looking for Repeater emulators are usually a fan of their >quirky time stretch feature. There are a lot of software loopers >now but I don't think any of them do time stretch exactly like >the Repeater. Check out Ambiloop, Augustus Loop, Kenaxis, Logelloop, >Mobius, and SooperLooper. One of those might meet your needs. Also, Musolomo does Time Stretch, but it's Mac-only and currently unsupported (but free!). You also get some interesting interface options to manipulate Time/Pitch with, such as an X-Y grid and a Turntable for loop scratching. Doesn't sound exactly like a Repeater; it's got it's own quirkiness/aliasing to the Time Stretching. Only thing that used to irritate me about it is that they never implemented Feedback. Also, there's no reason why you couldn't implement your own version of Time Stretch, using multiple VST's. You could use almost any VST/AU host, or hack together your own setup in something like Bidule. Here's how it works: First, pick the looper of your choice. It doesn't matter if it does Time Stretch per se, but it does need to do something like "tape style" Time/Pitch manipulation. (i.e. as you lower the pitch, the playback slows down; same as if you put your finger on the edge of a reel-to-reel tape or spinning record, and caused it to slow down through physical friction.) Next, find a Pitch-Shift plug-in out there. Again, your choice. You can mix and match until you find your favorite combination. Finally, you use the Pitch-Shift plug to compensate for the Pitch-Shifting in the Looper, and bring the loop's pitch back to original. For instance, if you use your Looper to slow the loop to half-speed, the pitch of the loop is going to drop to one octave lower. Now run that into a Pitch-Shift plug-in set to transpose up one octave. The result is that the loop is now back to its original pitch, but it's still playing back at half the original speed (twice as long, in other words). Viola, instant Time Stretch. If you want the loop to play back twice as fast, bump it up to double speed in the Looper, then use the Pitch-Shift plug to lower the pitch by an octave. Depending upon the Looper, you should also be able to get in-between values, or more extreme settings (two octave shift = four times as fast/slow, and beyond). I've done this with hardware (a Looperlative LP-1, into an Alesis Akira for the Pitch-Shifting), but there's no reason it shouldn't work in software too. Of course, you ain't gonna get pristine, studio-quality Time Stretching from this method, but who cares? The glitching and artifacting was one of the things that made the Repeater so loveable. So now go out and discover the sound that you yourself like the best. --m. -- _____ "we're no longer sure where home is; homesickness is our only guide" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 15:56:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC5873BE8F; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.27.210] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <49C24F22.90703@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: vst compressors Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:56:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 15:56:08.0385 (UTC) FILETIME=[37AEDB10:01C9A8AB] Resent-Message-ID: <8xV63D.A.NcB.YsmwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Some of the best VST compressors I've used, and still use, are the BuzComp series. And they are free. http://www.x-buz.com/BuzCompFree.html Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 16:41:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5ED53BE8D; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:reply-to:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ofMSDwuFaIu0blUsIVQ2ixOZweNJKRJ9zLIwOjNnfoo=; b=ZMA9la4BEb3z6iX+KBW+oyRzkhVQbKcPDGGGzzzlg4QEBHmFzzPJE1OJ/9upXw+jNF TkZTtvpHZ2I5Nu3JPg+S956pUCQiNJYyv0bywJMN5RdLcAb1//LnO/l/EXWBWEqeTnYM 3gJplNlMhZZ5DhmQAqYm3hGgCRfnu2eJtbMSI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; b=f/yYZOYQjSwbMm53zSoItrTm/8WrETkA0HrAbZCY+b/RJV5ThJAXWzcdgnchDqTQ02 CDNT33sjv4Cyfe140boU+7e+0YwtTPRV03Ee3jz/6ZgPFWaxj9mhbo6m36kwPXsefAOE TmvYDKiDqMAlnchY7U5Ssf2RJ5DIFZWh2g8sY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: References: <005a01c9a1c1$f2139720$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> <49C24F22.90703@googlemail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:41:01 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: vst compressors From: Simeon Harris To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2893629e1a804657b7767 Resent-Message-ID: <7vj3ZC.A.F_F.gWnwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:41:04 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2893629e1a804657b7767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit if you like really extreme settings, you could also have a look at the SSL LMC-1 - http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/LMC-1/index.asp it's also free sim On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Some of the best VST compressors I've used, and still use, are the BuzComp > series. And they are free. > > http://www.x-buz.com/BuzCompFree.html > > Kris > > > --000e0cd2893629e1a804657b7767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable if you like really extreme settings, you could also have a look at the SSL = LMC-1 -=A0http://www.solid-state-logic.com/music/LMC-1/index.asp

=
it's also free

sim

On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Krispen Hartung <= ;info@krispenhartung.com>= wrote:
Some of the best VST compressors I've u= sed, and still use, are the BuzComp series. And they are free.

http://= www.x-buz.com/BuzCompFree.html

Kris



--000e0cd2893629e1a804657b7767-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 16:45:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 230193BE89; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:45:23 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237480723; bh=bpsk/DlObIlpC+5l+7HdkFINiUfaFyFQ36QwJokXGU4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yc1hlmHi21Oh8JoRXyuiyDBDRr039sH7TARqW7SYvcDkGhQfAcUoGR4pQXC9wq2kz+HVqt7E/FEskRNr35GkB0BRlBl3LUxgzPQfrVlc5VVK3B41w6dq3cmQqho6qff6urNhZcVVUyvVmPhsfQyBxpYIGMYPR4hTeSQe+IoYWe8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; 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charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not quite looping, but=A0off-the-wall creative and=A0riotously great.=A0 = =0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD2FX9rviEhw&eurl=3Dhttp://www.bloglines= .com/myblogs_display?sub=3D7873365&site=3D250 --0-1153586406-1237480723=:39380 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --0-1153586406-1237480723=:39380-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 16:47:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AB983BE8C; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 938499.73113.bm@omp409.mail.mud.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237481218; bh=IwPIA98WV2dkU9V+OWen/pEY36Dw4DPQLf4SSNAR3L0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1n9rahvJahjpkpP5erTdm9LtjTeg3foIqo0yTuw7z3wx69tuNaTkAR3pCOaI6A7VJEeElE4HU8nKrRTxMJ9ii8Fxmqz0LK36TQjjYD+cu7uALnPrjbfX0Ig17655EqfU+QrFJUfCYRPk42RQEtzOaCk0WuI9IU+lAAeJl7fKG1A= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZbYi0ZnEAlKvv4HJDGwWIYRSqpM0KEfU70jNPG7K1MwAu3PcS6y8Fqp0JtpRHfhkki3z/QBZdQTP3D+xFbR+wiUv0ckeUQ9QUilemv860tNKiGoHEJLSM1rNg2Q6G5txz5B9YkQSmlPeljwFrjkkyeVFuHpednvZ/0tcS28toKQ=; Message-ID: <474414.49201.qm@web45909.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KHFNbtgVM1l6unpbNlrcSZyV2m6_DU9kKFpNOxmoSqoSfKjT76gLUdOQQmmBcgLICXZMEg4VF17Yv3TiL3a5ZPtgdS2yv333GWwMDkO2Kz7YDzmwQAC3R0iJq.oHp3zwc510Hkb4hRB1iI3JZZZea6SFq6JimenBMBAQsFTmPueHokemTNkV89uskwMZ23zV3NSpx3BzCxJ.9bNWJwHCPr339emiyo.0J1l7E36f3rZ3wlsFRoInzSqLLzyCy4SGpPCDUM1I3OxgWHRN0tzcu53oCKZM7oh6W53TU9.k X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <2871c3a90903180554u23923514r68fe40f0f8cd010f@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FA32161@barq.sailpoint.com> <66f9cc1e0903181012g412d26eew299100e1417023fe@mail.gmail.com> <588ce11d0903181048p5d79223bk2e409d0976486105@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903181104g47a402dbv5fbeff9bb25e61a2@mail.gmail.com> <583208.65617.qm@web45916.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181318l20e2d3cayc7cbe3968ad678b2@mail.gmail.com> <595821.30166.qm@web45913.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903181449j1562d617lb3e1cd1e80e873c7@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903181500lc12c85dt54bee20e3ab31fc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:46:58 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Virtual repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1380041867-1237481218=:49201" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:47:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1380041867-1237481218=:49201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cool, thanks! ________________________________ From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:00:29 PM Subject: Re: Virtual repeater Sorry I hit send before I had finished: TIME STRETCH --0-1380041867-1237481218=:49201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Cool, thanks!

From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:00:29 PM
Subject: Re: Virtual repeater

Sorry I hit send before I had finished:

TIME STRETCH


--0-1380041867-1237481218=:49201-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 16:49:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47DD03BE99; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: jayrope LD To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090319155609.6519D3BE92@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: There already IS a looping Forum - Tagging Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:49:01 +0100 References: <20090319155609.6519D3BE92@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:49:20 +0000 (UTC) Tagging the subjects is a nice idea. it would only work to sort mails in inbox, though, when [TAG] is preceding the subject. Example: "[EDP] Brother Sync issue". ..Just a note, j - - - jayrope http://www.kliklak.net On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > Re: There already IS a looping Forum - Tagging > > >> Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging. > > Actually, this is something we could start informally already by > simply adding "tags" to our mail subjects. > > I think I suggested this before, for example: > - "Brother Sync issue [EDP]" ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 19:09:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4EF43BE90; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:09:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:09:54 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237489392; bh=NekzgarlroLHTo1E5s7haP6Y/VhERk3TNT/gBSTLakg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0dqLszQoLwGRNaIipgH3WfSPg1AWnOhYMmje2mHwq8IfRbG91zAouvU1UtNgouoW9E6SuALmaAyqdsS+zTVColwvI8CZzqeqB1WTGD4aEdtnXI831qJnegGz0l5iUnCDWlrB606/bRGoOIbkvDxpBKelaP1Adkg6YOjG/it8MJo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W2AbK9SUCVZl4m1+30aZm4W+X7rvoNqYc/xnS48wTCGzfoyFEDSmNYFaD2ZYO/ZeGoNcSbqdrbjHzZxe7vUS1z4kzO9ssi39EPoYG6791SGWBakjgF5qIhDIvVa6VUQZBrRnp41jPrNCzNBSoPrI90NXi9mquGMIA6ACwHpR79g=; Message-ID: <923854.93356.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: MnPdZIIVM1mplpxzoGLVf1FXKiTASDVdHTCDsLOOuamWcvMJzxKQ0NFKEyjXnOv7hN44Fo4OaAb68_nVkGRbPTvjesVKWYitmeq405d1_wWJoRiEsgnFFZxzy1rzUqocjnjJN9mfGoJC5agQIyWnkc1ZLnSBqLoLH3qVSzs71Vxg2H8lSe_Z6m1.w6Dk0IeUCbWl7xhW9qJDwH_WYE8sofHkQlcCtwMoKoxS X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:03:12 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: OT - Extreme Sheep LED Art To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-457621804-1237489392=:93356" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:09:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-457621804-1237489392=:93356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Toooo funny! =A0 I own=A0a border collie and once was able to unleash him on a heard of shee= p;=A0he smartly=A0moved them from one end of field to the other and kept th= em as a group - all by instinct as he never had=A0any=A0training! =A0 That day he was happy as a pig in shit, to mix my animal metaphors... =A0 ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Jonathan Kessler wrote: From: Jonathan Kessler Subject: OT - Extreme Sheep LED Art To: "loop list" Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:38 AM Not quite looping, but=A0off-the-wall creative and=A0riotously great.=A0=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD2FX9rviEhw&eurl=3Dhttp://www.bloglines.co= m/myblogs_display?sub=3D7873365&site=3D250 =0A=0A=0A --0-457621804-1237489392=:93356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Toooo funny!
 
I own a border collie and once was able to unleash him on a heard= of sheep; he smartly moved them from one end of field to the oth= er and kept them as a group - all by instinct as he never had any = ;training!
 
That day he was happy as a pig in shit, to mix my animal metaphors...<= /DIV>

 
ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

---= On Thu, 3/19/09, Jonathan Kessler <kesslari@yahoo.com>= wrote:

From: Jonathan Kessler <kesslari@yahoo.com>=
Subject: OT - Extreme Sheep LED Art
To: "loop list" <loopers-deli= ght@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 9:38 AM
<= BR>

=0A=0A=0A= =0A --0-457621804-1237489392=:93356-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 19:10:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF503BE95; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=dWw58nG+HJNhDFfNYjNXR3sNVRX+aMrZBuUDrD1v/8M=; b=f0+IEOFbR2i1PUzcXijQnKa5ybmHxlDy7bkaSIcBzly+jP6HnywrxfWZcT4yfyTIfK Et9k/W6gijYgH/LqixBTivmV7Q4THc9jdjZXu7wwtJV5v0tWTWHyqPZ+LXV6yj9+SMKc yr1rB6ASu/fSgM+iU180zodk6u+xC/JX17mew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=YF2DSYc8kBT6X2XkH86e9diIlVBFsxOIyImo+OAEtiEYR4D1oA9PreABMriFsH1jXw E6mQPC7Pp5xnvWIh8+CA0g82VRjmNkMkvTCZt6p+CLlAr76DGx9xzq1EHeNmHvqCXUa6 tmXOGoXuUdBLG9I7oJmjiET1/VzQ9PlFJkOWk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: References: <20090319155609.6519D3BE92@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:10:23 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: cdd7a445c51b5757 Message-ID: <101191640903191210r6da8da1fqbc8897e41c3b3025@mail.gmail.com> Subject: [ME TOO]Re: There already IS a looping Forum - Tagging From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:10:24 +0000 (UTC) me too. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:49 PM, jayrope LD wrote= : > > Tagging the subjects is a nice idea. it would only work to sort mails in = inbox, though, when [TAG] is preceding the subject. > Example: "[EDP] Brother Sync issue". > > ..Just a note, j > - - - > jayrope > http://www.kliklak.net > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.co= m=A0wrote: > >> Re: There already IS a looping Forum - Tagging >> >> >>> Apart from ONE nifty feature... Tagging. >> >> Actually, this is something we could start informally already by simply = adding "tags" to our mail subjects. >> >> I think I suggested this before, for example: >> - "Brother Sync issue [EDP]" ... > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 21:44:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 264533BE8C; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1937 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:39 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: V9C81b00107rVmq0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:11:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: DIY midi controller In-Reply-To: <49C24F47.4030204@googlemail.com> References: <49C24F47.4030204@googlemail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20090319214439.9E8903BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:44:39 +0000 (UTC) And this one - not yet available: http://lividinstruments.com/hardware_mididiy.php At 2009.03.19 06:57 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: >Andreas Willers schrieb: >>Since Per brought this up: would it be possible (and how much worl >>is it) to build a midi controller (foot, hand or whatever) yourself? > >There is a board from Doepfer which should allow to do that easily... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 22:06:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EC883BE8A; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49C2D016.1000304@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:07:02 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:06:33 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on UK synthesist Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Mechanics of a Thought" by Ian Boddy on DiN Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 22:20:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9EF243BE8F; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f1d9wyzYg4YL2sY6VmOWrXyP6fMc7PW4HWShIy6wA+g=; b=w3r2KfdqnlgKc/Qk7laq1NpA9TbasPjTXaDxpnL3R4R8mJ3hVxHwJVqHWx1g5bGnMK KLY2XISRlYswkOt4iMbVDoaWaYoR0B/JBtKnoTb105MtHEr55IDoGmT1DUqKyscEFEJU aHfk6myrIQCCM6BJTvQjoMB2hDRiTIzpdtFh0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s/N1jhi6uSWC6VvKHbnv0NllEG1DJMiUoHmZfSloDP1L33Ep5pwS+gl6VRe5m/YbeM ehuWgHiHX1rS3w1mFLfwyQBgx87Qu7qeTkl48FSJ3pwVnYNbVjBRY0grsNqJk/q/kXwM ng3NbD/2+L4UzThZHzf3eaMpfvgIeubMxRZJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:20:28 +0900 Message-ID: <339c30110903191520i6d484587v4dc716e28130195c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: DIY midi controller From: michael noble To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0003255760ce1f8170046580356c Resent-Message-ID: <9WITpB.A.MyE.vUswJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:20:31 +0000 (UTC) --0003255760ce1f8170046580356c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm surprised that it doesn't get talked about more around these parts, but the midibox project has been going strong for several years now. http://www.midibox.org/ http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki To me it seems the most flexible explicitly midi* DIY solution out there, with a very large community to offer help. *there are other solutions like arduino that are probably just as flexible, if not more, but midibox was designed from that start with only midi in mind. -michael btw: if this post sounds like ad copy, don't fret, I don't work for them, I haven't even built one, just looked on in interest for a long time. --0003255760ce1f8170046580356c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm surprised that it doesn't get talked about more around these pa= rts, but the midibox project has been going strong for several years now. <= br>
http://www.midibox.org/

http://www.midibox.org/doku= wiki

To me it seems the most flexible explicitly midi* DIY solut= ion out there, with a very large community to offer help.

*there are= other solutions like arduino that are probably just as flexible, if not mo= re, but midibox was designed from that start with only midi in mind.

-michael

btw: if this post sounds like ad copy, don't fret, = I don't work for them, I haven't even built one, just looked on in = interest for a long time.
--0003255760ce1f8170046580356c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 22:26:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B75523BE8E; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <49BAE4C7.8060603@cruzio.com> References: <49BAE4C7.8060603@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:26:15 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:26:16 +0000 (UTC) At 3:57 PM -0700 3/13/09, Rick Walker wrote: >Andy wrote: >"In UK, the DL4 is pricey, it's always been =A3250. " > >Good lord, I never knew that. I've always=20 >wondered why so few Brits use them. That must=20 >be the >reason. > >How about Japan? Looked at picking one up after I got over here.=20 =46ound they're typically in the range of Yen=20 35-40,000 JPY -- roughly $400 USD, depending upon=20 the exchange rate. Ouch! Not sure why Line 6 is so much more expensive=20 outside the US, other than the fact that it seems=20 they can get it.... --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 19 23:53:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF66D3BE8D; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.1 X-EN-IMPSID: VBtG1b00401P85W0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:53:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: DIY midi controller In-Reply-To: <339c30110903191520i6d484587v4dc716e28130195c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <339c30110903191520i6d484587v4dc716e28130195c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20090319235329.83D1C3BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4RTBp.A.8oB.5rtwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:53:29 +0000 (UTC) You can also go with external hardware combined with a computer for the logic: http://monome.org/40h/kit At 2009.03.19 03:20 PM, michael noble wrote: >I'm surprised that it doesn't get talked about more around these >parts, but the midibox project has been going strong for several years now. > >http://www.midibox.org/ > >http://www.midibox.org/dokuwiki > >To me it seems the most flexible explicitly midi* DIY solution out >there, with a very large community to offer help. > >*there are other solutions like arduino that are probably just as >flexible, if not more, but midibox was designed from that start with >only midi in mind. > >-michael > >btw: if this post sounds like ad copy, don't fret, I don't work for >them, I haven't even built one, just looked on in interest for a long time. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 03:54:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9F503BE87; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:54:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <56e6434c014046f574c48c06acef8c54@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: TESTING TESTING TESTING . . . 1 . . . 2 . . . 3 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:54:16 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:54:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a test. Is this mic on? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 03:59:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 173623BE8B; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <56e6434c014046f574c48c06acef8c54@charter.net> References: <56e6434c014046f574c48c06acef8c54@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <8ebfc4deaf650487ddbd098831a16bbe@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: TESTING TESTING TESTING . . . 1 . . . 2 . . . 3 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:59:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <49iC3C.A.9gF.eSxwJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:59:26 +0000 (UTC) That was weird. I never thought I's see the day. I guess I was unsubscribed from the LD list for the last 2 weeks (or=20 more) and never even knew it. Work has been busy . . . actually it's been hell (but that's another=20 subject). Life has been busy . . . and a little hellish to (see above). Twitter, FaceBook, MySpace, LinkedIn, Plaxo, Frapper, and Tribe.net=20 have been busy. Doggone time-sucking social networks. Life is just too darn complicated. Okay . . . what have I missed? Best regards, tEd =AE KiLLiAn Creativity represents a miraculous coming together of the uninhibited=20 energy of the child with its apparent opposite and enemy, the sense of=20= order imposed on the disciplined adult intelligence. =96 Norman = Podhoretz http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes On Mar 19, 2009, at 8:54 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > This is a test. > > Is this mic on? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 04:09:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E84353BE8C; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.62.72] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <56e6434c014046f574c48c06acef8c54@charter.net> Subject: Re: TESTING TESTING TESTING . . . 1 . . . 2 . . . 3 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:08:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2009 04:09:04.0919 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BBD6A70:01C9A911] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:09:05 +0000 (UTC) It's feeding back a bit. Can you turn the gain down? :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > This is a test. > > Is this mic on? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 04:26:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50CEC3BE85; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237523177; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=oBeLzg+4RQYKaG9vxR9aS/wQevw=; b=J/evfaewt7pJdNKLktut6wJcGV1b24Aj2vZyhJ0FXVUY2upprLCm1ItmOqt/BQia hbmv+21NcmBQofWyhyGuuHfD+mCNiPXR6shxX8KMFiJw5hxvPqLDoX5K7mSDQp03; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hXhHJGNfMUwA:10 a=OVgwetcwyZcA:10 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=owJb5sxAAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=2nhGjAOeAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=npx5NHmsAAAA:8 a=-KG3j4xFAAAA:8 a=bLmzTDcsAAAA:8 a=DfCvdf-sEreu58gukicA:9 a=w-wr4-U0I4fmQwFVzcrSyhaa9rUA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=ygrZUvoj3joA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000c01c9a914$365c52b0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <56e6434c014046f574c48c06acef8c54@charter.net> <8ebfc4deaf650487ddbd098831a16bbe@charter.net> Subject: Re: TESTING TESTING TESTING . . . 1 . . . 2 . . . 3 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:27:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:26:18 +0000 (UTC) That is funny Ted! I was unsubed also a couple of times recently, After a couple of days I thought what the! I have also been really busy. I see on Facebook that you are playing some gigs and with Krispen! As I said there I am looking forward to hearing some of it. Good to have ya back in action. best, Jeff "Was that too melodic?" _ Sonny Sharrock http://virb.com/jeffduke ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:59 PM Subject: Re: TESTING TESTING TESTING . . . 1 . . . 2 . . . 3 That was weird. I never thought I's see the day. I guess I was unsubscribed from the LD list for the last 2 weeks (or more) and never even knew it. Work has been busy . . . actually it's been hell (but that's another subject). Life has been busy . . . and a little hellish to (see above). Twitter, FaceBook, MySpace, LinkedIn, Plaxo, Frapper, and Tribe.net have been busy. Doggone time-sucking social networks. Life is just too darn complicated. Okay . . . what have I missed? Best regards, tEd ® KiLLiAn Creativity represents a miraculous coming together of the uninhibited energy of the child with its apparent opposite and enemy, the sense of order imposed on the disciplined adult intelligence. – Norman Podhoretz http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes On Mar 19, 2009, at 8:54 PM, tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > This is a test. > > Is this mic on? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 05:10:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECCC73BE85; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xYA/vSTlwV2M8moU0CJYwFEAv5hqlgd6ecVPiiRwcN0=; b=acGuRisoaxiUmJyMD+2bw7t4aDg2k18nqeEU6RSXaBaHA4srfpbilifmyVU9Mj3ZOq IbG6cXzfg0beVJS1aFkH3RiAS+0j4kaA/vhuU3aurbaoTi07BbZh9e2mNhmuI06Bfja0 igA9oQxyllWZvKpqcb900MP0sy/GSKFhRpujM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=p71zgyExzar2vL2Dg2ZOw9Z/p48J7tJ28MY3S/IKNl+H9EhUVVOKzIKc9kc5zClEsN BChwgxElCOLxAu/pdut2lzkcI3WcU9M7NUzaIX060aLGzEXIdp8vNt66DU2xYDMgXeH5 CofAbvD99DMzEkj+Xm3IFmKsHommxo7k3c428= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:10:22 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: East coast loop-friendly venues? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Just following up on this moribund thread - Does anyone happen to know who is curating at The Stone (NYC) in July? I'd hate to find out after the fact that it's someone I know. In other news, my tour now has a simple little skeleton. I'm in Columbus, OH on 7.16 and Baltimore, MD on 7.18. I then have 10 days to get from Baltimore to Boston, so it's looking like I'm going to be focusing pretty heavily on the east coast. Any loop-friendly/experimental/space-music/*very* abstract ambient venues or performance opportunities in that area would be much appreciated. Thanks! Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com/shows.html Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:54:26 -0800 ________________________________ Harry was like: > The Stone in Manhattan is a great place that pushes boundaries 6 nights >a week. Thanks for the suggestion - I'd love to play The Stone, but the last I knew, they didn't accept booking requests. I think you have to know the person who is curating that particular month. It's an odd system - even if I happen to know the person, I wouldn't know that they're curating, and they wouldn't necessarily know that I'm planning to be in NYC. On the other hand, if they did accept submissions, the scale of them would probably be maddening. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 13:21:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD6593BE8D; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:21:30 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Flexible MFC MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:21:32 +0000 (UTC) I'm looking for a midi footcontroller with the following specs: * per patch: 10-15 programmable momentary CC pedals and 3 exp. controller= pedals all with programmable midi channel * Optional: multiple programmable CC messages per pedal (sequence) * compact, < 5kg, reliable --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 13:35:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC8D73BE90; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=egJFnL6akabeUbh1wP9YYxjYhcJBsTDFAGfMk4UKXsY=; b=DIxKC9E9nNjv1WIbZb/FOZReC2sgSKz6t2i+vI4ZjJmMG/eiShAY/mMYO251s4d6Pk c7DVg9xQdSMOj8+sWcFNGPk2/ROJvNoocOWQgkFLVZ0jMYp/Rr2qvTiazUDcSxd+Outq WzwOEdMNCVbs9kWwvwLeb2VFZmxdVhoOeQGcI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ABzo4/vx3S1E7G4zONLtagjqNe0gP9pLXeL0VBF4osak0fox4yLlGa/IBgOLtg20k3 NFCRDUlnX99JEf1CNZKNBB9OBMEa8tYCZL0nnTHabFJVKSI8rvIAQmAQ248ta490Ustc iU6JJYWx/R+4PAiL1KYTQCYsGNRcLbVoWbJz8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:35:30 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903200635v48411bc1y7b31ed16c9dcfd62@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: East coast loop-friendly venues? From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174ff5a48ffa6804658cfd8e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:35:31 +0000 (UTC) --0015174ff5a48ffa6804658cfd8e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. It seems to be an extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational curator and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' as they say which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene' here when time is so limited at least for me. There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's called Issue Project Room. They atleast provide their contacts though it too is rather tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they can reflect to you. Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? We tried to get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow down there. If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are a few. One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place called the Stain. Zebulon is also good but harder to get in. More if you need but rushing for now. Luck with it all... Jim On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Just following up on this moribund thread - Does anyone happen to know > who is curating at The Stone (NYC) in July? I'd hate to find out after > the fact that it's someone I know. > > In other news, my tour now has a simple little skeleton. I'm in > Columbus, OH on 7.16 and Baltimore, MD on 7.18. I then have 10 days to > get from Baltimore to Boston, so it's looking like I'm going to be > focusing pretty heavily on the east coast. > > Any loop-friendly/experimental/space-music/*very* abstract ambient > venues or performance opportunities in that area would be much > appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com/shows.html > > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:54:26 -0800 > > ________________________________ > > Harry was like: > > The Stone in Manhattan is a great place that pushes boundaries 6 nights > >a week. > > Thanks for the suggestion - I'd love to play The Stone, but the last I > knew, they didn't accept booking requests. I think you have to know > the person who is curating that particular month. It's an odd system - > even if I happen to know the person, I wouldn't know that they're > curating, and they wouldn't necessarily know that I'm planning to be > in NYC. > > On the other hand, if they did accept submissions, the scale of them > would probably be maddening. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --0015174ff5a48ffa6804658cfd8e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. =A0It seems to be = an extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational cur= ator and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' a= s they say which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'sce= ne' here when time is so limited at least for me.

There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that&#= 39;s called Issue Project Room. =A0They atleast provide their contacts thou= gh it too is rather tight though a couple on this list have played there so= perhaps they can reflect to you.

Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in= Baltimore? =A0We tried to get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be= the cat's meow down there.

If you haven't= checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are a few. =A0One that= is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but unfortunately doesn't= do well with walk in traffic is a place called the Stain. =A0Zebulon is al= so good but harder to get in.

More if you need but rushing for now.

Luck with it all...

Jim

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.c= om> wrote:
Just following up on this moribund thread -= Does anyone happen to know
who is curating at The Stone (NYC) in July? I'd hate to find out after<= br> the fact that it's someone I know.

In other news, my tour now has a simple little skeleton. I'm in
Columbus, OH on 7.16 and Baltimore, MD on 7.18. I then have 10 days to
get from Baltimore to Boston, so it's looking like I'm going to be<= br> focusing pretty heavily on the east coast.

Any loop-friendly/experimental/space-music/*very* abstract ambient
venues or performance opportunities in that area would be much
appreciated.

Thanks!

Matt Davignon
www.r= ibosomemusic.com/shows.html

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:54:26 -0800

________________________________

Harry was like:
> The Stone in Manhattan is a great place that pushes boundaries 6 night= s
>a week.

Thanks for the suggestion - I'd love to play The Stone, but the last I<= br> knew, they didn't accept booking requests. I think you have to know
the person who is curating that particular month. It's an odd system -<= br> even if I happen to know the person, I wouldn't know that they're curating, and they wouldn't necessarily know that I'm planning to b= e
in NYC.

On the other hand, if they did accept submissions, the scale of them
would probably be maddening.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusi= c.com




--
The Acoustic Wor= ld Guitar of Jim Goodin =A0- http= ://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
--0015174ff5a48ffa6804658cfd8e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 15:14:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 409273BE90; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <20090320133532.2D8033BE95@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Flexible MFC Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:14:31 -0700 Message-ID: <80277013790F4E9B91E722B4B13D3ACE@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003D_01C9A933.E8986EE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmpYL7PLI/ij8tCRmiwdHEQrdwqbgADX2Kg In-Reply-To: <20090320133532.2D8033BE95@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:14:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C9A933.E8986EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That would be the gordius Big little giant, made right there in your lovely country by the great Xavier! Bill _____ From: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com [mailto:Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com] Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 6:36 AM To: Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V09 #272 ------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C9A933.E8986EE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That would be the  gordius Big = little giant, made right there in your lovely country by the great = Xavier!

 Bill<= /p>

 

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------=_NextPart_000_003D_01C9A933.E8986EE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 16:31:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 580CE3BE8D; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:31:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:31:22 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:Flexible MFC MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:31:25 +0000 (UTC) >Bill wrote: > That would be the gordius Big little giant, made right there in your l= ovely > country by the great Xavier! Hi Bill, I just noticed that the Roland FC-200 and FC-300 are now also su= pported as slave controllers. Which is good news because I already have a= FC-300. I know you and also Andy Butler have a Gordius controller. What's your op= inion about the benefits of a standalone LG controller vs the LG-module += a slave controller such as the FCB1010 or FC-300? --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 17:00:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 074033BE8A; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 170543243/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.173.106/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.173.106 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoBAPdnw0lPRq1q/2dsb2JhbAAI1SaDfQaHKA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,396,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="170543243" Message-ID: <49C3CDCA.5090206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:09:30 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Xavier Subject: Re: Flexible MFC References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: >> Bill wrote: >> That would be the gordius Big little giant, made right there in your lovely >> country by the great Xavier! > I know you and also Andy Butler have a Gordius controller. > What's your opinion about the benefits of a standalone LG > controller vs the LG-module + a slave controller such as the FCB1010 or FC-300? > The regular standalone LG is noticeably compact and light. I guess the feature set is very similar. I did consider getting the module, but:- 1) my fcb is getting a bit old 2) the cost difference was not that great, especially as likely I was going to have to replace the fcb soon 3) the fcb is a total liability for travel...big + heavy 4) I got the LG variant with 4 expression pedal sockets I imagine latency would be a shade higher for slave+module. Xavier would be the man to ask. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 17:21:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 828333BE8D; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:21:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:21:09 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Flexible MFC MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:21:11 +0000 (UTC) > Andy wrote: > Xavier would be the man to ask. Wow, the LG controller is only 2.25 kg. An FC-300 + LG-module is 6.3 kg i= n total...that's a lot when you have to travel. Thanks, I've just sent hi= m an email. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 17:29:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E8173BE90; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237570184; bh=9iwYBANZbNeQkNdy5wGwphdjCutu7t6CcmY630uf0U8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=F2hXDIhgCvI5Ot7HzJpg3vCwPErA5LKMqi8PgwTlX2fdwEiEfVj+rAucSOBuSutB5v7DrsEJq1AuUKthnoCAPpYr/hpyElixFJH3BLbAVfjrZblrTzocCGP8JPfnFKn62akPhwOqEw0lUlnr+xq35ipN7APnCmMgy8r32BH1k90= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yD+Nfxl8iZGmivuIJSv2c056q0soUHHa4m9x5hxFZtpwJoTooi+iRs/YoMI56oXPFTuOtqMlFqwUUu0jSiRzW3JxDB4gYWGkPj7Kkrf/xs3Zte8JD3iIjUKhj4VP/NyhxnaO2gX/omEhrv8OjT+cQgQsUrJkgwXMzYpA/Fv2O5A=; Message-ID: <83142.48371.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NtFjvCwVM1mIvn4VznjH_033ksyN.adIKxefS2uI_5X.hmObwEZIlFNg3bIMwNnGVwatDzx7_ZJi7DoGVM8wsHxqNbIyYz.wKMeHLTmLimthSfyzvXKXBO2kU4Fgogf8IKnCOYbznIuJuGWHX9bngx_uzZKBKFtMyQa__3XNvo9fVSmMaGuuGhqvRPOV11_wDxtFWgxE X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Flexible MFC To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:29:45 +0000 (UTC) here is another one about the same price or less than the grdius Big giant= =0A=0Ahttp://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rocktron-All-Access-MIDI-F= oot-Controller?sku=3D155690=0A=0A=0Ahere you can see how loud the switches = are if u are picky about it,i would have to compare them to the gordius:=0A= =0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLHZUIVSYV18=0A=0Amore buttons but less = exp pedal inputs quite loud yet very nice=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Awww.mys= pace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 3/20/09, andy butler wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy butler =0A> = Subject: Re: Flexible MFC=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "Xav= ier" =0A> Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:09 AM=0A> Sja= ak wrote:=0A> >> Bill wrote:=0A> >> That would be the=A0 gordius Big little= giant,=0A> made right there in your lovely=0A> >> country by the great Xav= ier!=0A> =0A> > I know you and also Andy Butler have a Gordius=0A> controll= er. What's your opinion about the benefits of a=0A> standalone LG controlle= r vs the LG-module + a slave=0A> controller such as the FCB1010 or FC-300? = =0A> =0A> The regular standalone LG is noticeably compact and light.=0A> I = guess the feature set is very similar.=0A> =0A> I did consider getting the = module, but:-=0A> 1) my fcb is getting a bit old=0A> 2) the cost difference= was not that great, especially as=0A> likely I was going=0A> =A0 to have t= o replace the fcb soon=0A> 3) the fcb is a total liability for travel...big= + heavy=0A> 4) I got the LG variant with 4 expression pedal sockets=0A> = =0A> I imagine latency would be a shade higher for=0A> slave+module.=0A> = =0A> Xavier would be the man to ask.=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 17:30:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CA063BE91; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237570252; bh=u+d3vwh0f2G20ectQWQr/qq5NH23t/huIGmPrCFLICg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1jjsDKNZsGpUKdH0lLL3ZwvZzamDyn7Q8v5o+ais34NxGkXgFUEZJ/x0V0k8CcKCgvL2DfR+BeT+7EzqQvJnxB8wHwG9N+TL0g4DFybaTqb9hpPFmCde4UMEHNDiHtgmv9+2j6iRHbHta+q+CyIa9pnuf5nO0Da9PioHPIro4XQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=OWCV51KkGSJLgKPwMG58YXLmd4xR5lBjBXxxCUblmtx/m2sBj0CFpel4ABDjzTrdC7+/0TECmVlqYGBGkM+NxURpiIU4059R9Ssxz8H8iUhlJMg+cfId3y+QS0SC9oi43rNB62ZNuX8qt90OtHPJ+amtmGvw5cZQmMPvu+x5Pf8=; Message-ID: <384113.38753.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vnLeiLcVM1k8LbqW2zFFmZSSsj8GI_mpWXd8rBi0R8JSuPAcGf4hHUpT9.geGVMIEPB7fmkO43LlMNWZWIPUsxHSJW_5.mx9Y5UEqobZEhum7QLgdekwldF.4IWwmTXawVlswq6VCnYtZZ5og8gxEzyQMjnMZXh6qs.IlWxGQoPM55HWESum84DfZvtdxICh3_fNgImC X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:30:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Flexible MFC To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:30:54 +0000 (UTC) ups isee its out of the question because it weights a tone!=0Awww.myspace.c= om/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 3/20/09, L.Angulo wrote:=0A=0A> From: L.Angulo =0A> Subject: Re: Flexi= ble MFC=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Friday, March= 20, 2009, 10:29 AM=0A> =0A> here is another one about the same price or le= ss than the=0A> grdius Big giant=0A> =0A> http://guitars.musiciansfriend.co= m/product/Rocktron-All-Access-MIDI-Foot-Controller?sku=3D155690=0A> =0A> = =0A> here you can see how loud the switches are if u are picky=0A> about it= ,i would have to compare them to the gordius:=0A> =0A> http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DLHZUIVSYV18=0A> =0A> more buttons but less exp pedal inputs qu= ite loud yet very=0A> nice=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> www.= myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> =0A> =0A> --- On Fri, 3/20/09, andy butler =0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> > From: andy butler =0A> > Subject: Re: Flexible MFC=0A> > To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com,=0A> "Xavier" =0A> > Date: Friday, March= 20, 2009, 10:09 AM=0A> > Sjaak wrote:=0A> > >> Bill wrote:=0A> > >> That w= ould be the=A0 gordius Big little=0A> giant,=0A> > made right there in your= lovely=0A> > >> country by the great Xavier!=0A> > =0A> > > I know you and= also Andy Butler have a Gordius=0A> > controller. What's your opinion abou= t the benefits of=0A> a=0A> > standalone LG controller vs the LG-module + a= slave=0A> > controller such as the FCB1010 or FC-300? =0A> > =0A> > The re= gular standalone LG is noticeably compact and=0A> light.=0A> > I guess the = feature set is very similar.=0A> > =0A> > I did consider getting the module= , but:-=0A> > 1) my fcb is getting a bit old=0A> > 2) the cost difference w= as not that great, especially=0A> as=0A> > likely I was going=0A> > =A0 to = have to replace the fcb soon=0A> > 3) the fcb is a total liability for trav= el...big +=0A> heavy=0A> > 4) I got the LG variant with 4 expression pedal= =0A> sockets=0A> > =0A> > I imagine latency would be a shade higher for=0A>= > slave+module.=0A> > =0A> > Xavier would be the man to ask.=0A> > =0A> > = andy=0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From admin@filme-gratis.co.cc Fri Mar 20 18:35:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1596 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:35:40 UTC Received: from acces.czone.ro (webmail.czone.ro [81.181.111.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165C83BE86 for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by acces.czone.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D541A54196; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:08:59 +0200 (EET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at czone.ro Received: from acces.czone.ro ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (acces.czone.ro [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3Q42gVBINoOD; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:08:58 +0200 (EET) Received: from User (host226-46-static.86-94-b.business.telecomitalia.it [94.86.46.226]) by acces.czone.ro (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3E98A54190; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:08:10 +0200 (EET) Reply-To: From: "Online Movies" Subject: Your Pass To Unlimited Movie Downloads Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:08:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090320180835.B3E98A54190@acces.czone.ro> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Unlimited Movie Downloads - No downloading limits, 24/7 access Get ready to enjoy your favourite TV shows, movies and unreleased music videos. 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From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325579e82f8a407046591e801 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:27:41 +0000 (UTC) --000325579e82f8a407046591e801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And there are a few loop-friendly places in and around Boston ... people I can put you in touch with, even though I am now out here in Wyoming (REAL Space Country! GRIN) Best, Dennis On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. It seems to be an > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational curator > and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' as they say > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene' here when > time is so limited at least for me. > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's called Issue > Project Room. They atleast provide their contacts though it too is rather > tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they can > reflect to you. > > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? We tried to > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow down there. > > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are a > few. One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place called the > Stain. Zebulon is also good but harder to get in. > > More if you need but rushing for now. > > Luck with it all... > > Jim > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> Just following up on this moribund thread - Does anyone happen to know >> who is curating at The Stone (NYC) in July? I'd hate to find out after >> the fact that it's someone I know. >> >> In other news, my tour now has a simple little skeleton. I'm in >> Columbus, OH on 7.16 and Baltimore, MD on 7.18. I then have 10 days to >> get from Baltimore to Boston, so it's looking like I'm going to be >> focusing pretty heavily on the east coast. >> >> Any loop-friendly/experimental/space-music/*very* abstract ambient >> venues or performance opportunities in that area would be much >> appreciated. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Matt Davignon >> www.ribosomemusic.com/shows.html >> >> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:54:26 -0800 >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Harry was like: >> > The Stone in Manhattan is a great place that pushes boundaries 6 nights >> >a week. >> >> Thanks for the suggestion - I'd love to play The Stone, but the last I >> knew, they didn't accept booking requests. I think you have to know >> the person who is curating that particular month. It's an odd system - >> even if I happen to know the person, I wouldn't know that they're >> curating, and they wouldn't necessarily know that I'm planning to be >> in NYC. >> >> On the other hand, if they did accept submissions, the scale of them >> would probably be maddening. >> >> Matt Davignon >> www.ribosomemusic.com >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --000325579e82f8a407046591e801 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And there are a few loop-friendly places in and around Boston ... people I = can put you in touch with, even though I am now out here in Wyoming (REAL S= pace Country! GRIN)

Best,

Dennis


On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. =A0It seems to be = an extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational cur= ator and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' a= s they say which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'sce= ne' here when time is so limited at least for me.

There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that&#= 39;s called Issue Project Room. =A0They atleast provide their contacts thou= gh it too is rather tight though a couple on this list have played there so= perhaps they can reflect to you.

Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in= Baltimore? =A0We tried to get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be= the cat's meow down there.

If you haven't= checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are a few. =A0One that= is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but unfortunately doesn't= do well with walk in traffic is a place called the Stain. =A0Zebulon is al= so good but harder to get in.

More if you need but rushing for now.

Luck with it all...

Jim


On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1= :10 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
Just following up= on this moribund thread - Does anyone happen to know
who is curating at The Stone (NYC) in July? I'd hate to find out after<= br> the fact that it's someone I know.

In other news, my tour now has a simple little skeleton. I'm in
Columbus, OH on 7.16 and Baltimore, MD on 7.18. I then have 10 days to
get from Baltimore to Boston, so it's looking like I'm going to be<= br> focusing pretty heavily on the east coast.

Any loop-friendly/experimental/space-music/*very* abstract ambient
venues or performance opportunities in that area would be much
appreciated.

Thanks!

Matt Davignon
www.r= ibosomemusic.com/shows.html

Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:54:26 -0800

________________________________

Harry was like:
> The Stone in Manhattan is a great place that pushes boundaries 6 night= s
>a week.

Thanks for the suggestion - I'd love to play The Stone, but the last I<= br> knew, they didn't accept booking requests. I think you have to know
the person who is curating that particular month. It's an odd system -<= br> even if I happen to know the person, I wouldn't know that they're curating, and they wouldn't necessarily know that I'm planning to b= e
in NYC.

On the other hand, if they did accept submissions, the scale of them
would probably be maddening.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusi= c.com




--
The = Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =A0- http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (sol= o) - ht= tp://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space = -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.c= om
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--000325579e82f8a407046591e801-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 19:41:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7886D3BE8F; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7pt+CbMC8uhAiZh9QDQSSqOwImgn/aXaf6zTWYtfCGE=; b=uoKr25SqpusDsd+XIaglPGl0uJhtadVUdd9/9bsq1BxXBv2Esh1e49uITe0zoD2zwR pTSsIMU9/eiQg9SJ0bvDXucW4/ty2IDrnIhFaft1Ad2hkpX0om0yjIQMX87h3oLHmvDZ flRmlXCRAqwp26xooTBrVtf7+W/vUlOI+Wc5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MGHucsXdeapn5wkfJAEq0/rcCJowJyOFI1vufK+XFjv0y7aNF/A2sTbwxFt1v052yH BQoiPwYhAkYfLkPXeKKRs6sX2OrgyXDyASQnXSyN3bxnI0olUq8bYkIkegRVhSdoUEbM cXi61nocsUTl0/2na1Jdy/Hue3fr4nSi1BSik= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:41:01 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: East coast loop-friendly venues? From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_2dFiB.A.XOF.OF_wJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) I'd suggest joining the Philly Ambient list Philly_Ambient@yahoogroups.com and check the archives. There seems to be a few venues that do the ambient/electronic thing. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Just following up on this moribund thread - Does anyone happen to know > who is curating at The Stone (NYC) in July? I'd hate to find out after > the fact that it's someone I know. > > In other news, my tour now has a simple little skeleton. I'm in > Columbus, OH on 7.16 and Baltimore, MD on 7.18. I then have 10 days to > get from Baltimore to Boston, so it's looking like I'm going to be > focusing pretty heavily on the east coast. > > Any loop-friendly/experimental/space-music/*very* abstract ambient > venues or performance opportunities in that area would be much > appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com/shows.html > > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:54:26 -0800 > > ________________________________ > > Harry was like: >> The Stone in Manhattan is a great place that pushes boundaries 6 nights >>a week. > > Thanks for the suggestion - I'd love to play The Stone, but the last I > knew, they didn't accept booking requests. I think you have to know > the person who is curating that particular month. It's an odd system - > even if I happen to know the person, I wouldn't know that they're > curating, and they wouldn't necessarily know that I'm planning to be > in NYC. > > On the other hand, if they did accept submissions, the scale of them > would probably be maddening. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 20 21:28:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 554BD3BE90; Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pSXXn7dtm5H7EvTPYm5pcl9Dj+oHKarUlriSc/TAtGM=; b=VmWHrZG8wW9EE5nTc65aE2oVs2xMgK7ypPdDj2Pfoa5MVUWUMij6SG1SqBZRUpuVco 9RxwbKtJ2HrMnNyFo4F33jWEwtucqhmcbOw/Eh0IMHo00ZZnSUudDyCgvEzvIRQvWaJo AoPQq0tlNJs3rZb7ZgdUEovvHOHzNmbDDfK3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ctxjhn3w/FXiz1O2YLDXknpzHa29dOezuLoQh6ARdHzFWo7A7gbvtoL8g02ihjhEOW Nibj7qeetXgumUXY7ZHgCfa4OVauqrLYBnjPC8y84hnDVciAyDncGKAGJmpIMLl6+Cn1 io+yfbSGZkA2H6RRfmOuq1kgU2mogrqa7mE2o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:28:17 -0400 Message-ID: <2fb9e4730903201428k99fa2bcs49f202074ab5597d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT - Live Sound Engineering as a Small Business From: Clint Allen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175746645a499b046593982b Resent-Message-ID: <0j6MW.A.8_E.ypAxJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:28:18 +0000 (UTC) --0015175746645a499b046593982b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > In the midst of trying to make my live sound business more "legit" (as in > writing a business plan, financial statements, etc.) I thought I would first > email the list and see if anyone else has done the same thing with various > aspects of sound and music. I am in a weird situation (or maybe unique) > where I am trying to roll several services under one roof. Studio Sound > Engineering, Live Sound/Mobile Recording, soundtracks, traditional music > services. If you have and would be interested in sharing your approach, business plan techniques (in generic form, of course) or even resources, please feel free to contact me offline if you wish. Thanks, Clint Allen clint.allen@gmail.com -- Clint E. Allen * Technology Consultant * Sound Engineering --0015175746645a499b046593982b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In the midst of = trying to make my live sound business more "legit" (as in writing= a business plan, financial statements, etc.) I thought I would first email= the list and see if anyone else has done the same thing with various aspec= ts of sound and music. I am in a weird situation (or maybe unique) where I = am trying to roll several services under one roof. Studio Sound Engineering= , Live Sound/Mobile Recording, soundtracks, traditional music services.=A0<= /blockquote>

If you have and would be interested in sharing your app= roach, business plan techniques (in generic form, of course) or even resour= ces, please feel free to contact me offline if you wish.=A0

Thanks,

Clint Allen=A0

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--0015175746645a499b046593982b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 01:06:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 944653BE8E; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: Flexible MFC Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:06:24 -0700 Message-ID: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9A986.9802EC50" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcmpwUE0wG9sT0X2SoST+C8GL+43VA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:06:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9A986.9802EC50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I like the size and weight of the LG, the accuracy and feel of the switches, and the fact it will accept light weight expression pedals like EV-5's It gives me 12 presets and two expression pedals per bank, the larger size unit adds additional EX ports as Andy stated. Absolutely the best quality and I realized a while back that I didn't want my whole performance and my hard earned gear to be at the mercy of an FCB1010. This conclusion has come of course after owning and wearing out 3 FCB's :-) Bill ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9A986.9802EC50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I like the size and weight  of the LG, the = accuracy and feel of the switches, and the fact it will accept light weight = expression pedals like EV-5’s It gives me 12 presets and two expression = pedals per bank, the larger size unit adds additional EX ports as Andy stated. = Absolutely the best quality and I realized a while back that I didn’t want my = whole performance and my hard earned gear to be at the mercy of an FCB1010. = This conclusion has come of course after owning and wearing out 3 FCB’s = J

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------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C9A986.9802EC50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 04:09:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFB943BE8A; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237608593; bh=bn1Ksim2Ls0ke8LkG1fGBkRrMRxGA1b3rM9yCCRZIMI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3cxM0au+1+rXMJTvAYCKE3yCLvK5cMeJortzvGwnOMxLR9Y4RBwz0EMujE9cPtmuE4WNZjJN8vkNQM8eRG8F5DxXdxqgdYsXS//mZAPQpBkRJOp/4/1VHeEDiOr5RtRdXQQRWHTbT2kDI1oigDwuB7ANnBB3nfUwQBj1Ju8LWZY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kmfnaTMq9ef+NBVoNSIePZWcYrye10xuPI6BNtMthb8nurvphhBGLaiA/RZcfig5GneSOdncIC5NJAXlNqptPzeFGfhf2iHpgoxlnU4sJZ64tWf0Qri5o1VBS2/oOYQn2FaFWInN7vR8D3AfRu3GA3ymS1yI9ZHGMFGglS9GxqE=; Message-ID: <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: k.5wJJUVM1lRG0X.zS4Ss4dZfEnrgM65C1UwttjBb8d6Rm4NnqFRKfEwKoT.Gu9NGCIVk0cou8_NCD2ev3OUFrfHYYN4Y0O.xB1t0uNyZ3z2BHjrHvTdYR.Zh_.Y5hAuUxl2_nnbweXbaR9Q4MPt0CZTW.y7xcikgwZAuxxgWx.ydx01GQJsmQ5HtuWh0YYXKbBb80W9EHXa42QHX8ul0a2Adqw2udEaW5GRhMWmxwy0F.T97to- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 21:09:53 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Reply-To: vsyevolod@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Jeff wrote: <> Makes sense, though we'll probably never know enough of the story to even make an informed opinion. <> 1, 2, and 3, are way off base. I don't know if 4 is close or not. I do know that they would have finished it and sold it if there were any possible way to do it. Without going into any kind of speculation here on this marvelous Interweb, I will say that's it's pretty much all a moot point. It's not available for sale, nor is it available for an outside person to 'finish up'. And to address a few other points that others brought up, no Peter Toms has no stake in the company, nor does he currently have any control over the sale of the OS software. He only has a stockpile of parts and is one of the few repair shops that actually owns schematics to the entire line. There were three different owners (or groups of owners) of the Electrix brand. Each one failed to communicate well with the public, though to lump them into one large group is to miss the individual characteristics that each owner (or group of owners) brought to the table. Each one had a different style of communicating with Peter Toms, some more readily available, some not so much. None of them did well with the public side, though they weren't connected with each other, nor was there a master plan passed down from tribe to tribe to keep the rest of us in the dark... I still have three of them, they serve me quite well, and though I've owned (and still own) several other types of loopers, nothing does it for me (and my style) as well as the Repeater. May its creators know that they are appreciated... Stephen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 07:31:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D4993BE82; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=A4lg4IKQX3aPEkL2NIzzFF0NQFlqSvEnMCzUFrPdltI=; b=h5uj4Cx0o3jSWYXciGE2cS8vCXypf2mq/MBuxutMbMstyn91/s9alMlUq2cXwRihyE eGiZlk4zh7Ba2u8ZwkfxnzRS3QsSIUjTAeKV7qvv7DzO46NEf6Si+XxwlwGONalQLwP3 JJ7IfdKHtbgYjz2V3kFv34wi8vJhjlGxWe82c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qdwgqkhwAcQe5Dk5mG2bNnv+oVgw054Z6UqEP24KoRAe3k8pE5MQFLc4PSJzjvF/Df ZIecOABAB+W//YV10cHM4ED5mk7W3qY/dnHdm13oyzyXx6TptUKwLfaoefMINhno2vxy vvY9wgcXcVtCxmp8y3vkqvpXGmBeIpsEx5Xak= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:31:37 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9f6e1b7954b313e1 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9360cae7804659c06a7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:31:39 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9360cae7804659c06a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen, you can't say things like 1, 2, and 3, are way off base. without offering some insight into the situation... were you there? I respect that you do seem to know something about Peter Toms role than I did (actually I was disapointed to hear that he has no stake - coming back to this point****) It seems like that from the outside, which is where we are, what Jeff described is EXACTLY how it looked.. I know noting of 3 different owners (well I do - but it hardly excuses them from a customer point of view) They have a very great product but its is a very poor brand, or BECAME a very poor brand I should say. I can see that as a real lover of Repeater Stephen, you want to applaud their achievements rather than trash them, and I agree. *** So who DOES have any stake inthe remains, who currently owns the software, either the Hardware OS... Or Any virtual Repeater...? Does ANYONE have the answer to this??? Who OWNS the software??? It must be someone who wants to earn back a bit of cash surely? Mark On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:09 AM, S V G wrote: > > > Jeff wrote: > < it doesn't take hundreds or even tens of thousands of dollars to > finish and distribute. If you've got programmers committed to the > project they'll make it happen. Sales weren't going to give Adam and > the other two principals a nice salary but what the heck, get it out > there and recoup at least some of your expenses.>> > > > Makes sense, though we'll probably never know enough of the story to > even make an informed opinion. > > > > > < likely possibilities: > > 1) They never had anything and did the classic vaporware play hoping > for an enthusiastic response they didn't get. > > 2) They grossly underestimated how hard it was going to be to > port firmware designed for custom hardware to a general > computer OS with all the associated UI, performance, > plugin hosting, and latency issues. It wasn't even half done. > > 3) They outsourced the development to relatively disinterested > programmers with no financial stake in the product's success. > Once the contractor money dried up, there was no one left > that knew how to finish it. > > 4) There were really almost done but ugly internal politics > shelved the project and the code rights now reside > with one of the principals that doesn't know what to > do with it.>> > > > > > > 1, 2, and 3, are way off base. I don't know if 4 is close or not. I > do know that they would have finished it and sold it if there were any > possible way to do it. Without going into any kind of speculation here on > this marvelous Interweb, I will say that's it's pretty much all a moot > point. It's not available for sale, nor is it available for an outside > person to 'finish up'. > > > And to address a few other points that others brought up, no Peter Toms > has no stake in the company, nor does he currently have any control over the > sale of the OS software. He only has a stockpile of parts and is one of the > few repair shops that actually owns schematics to the entire line. > > There were three different owners (or groups of owners) of the Electrix > brand. Each one failed to communicate well with the public, though to lump > them into one large group is to miss the individual characteristics that > each owner (or group of owners) brought to the table. Each one had a > different style of communicating with Peter Toms, some more readily > available, some not so much. None of them did well with the public side, > though they weren't connected with each other, nor was there a master plan > passed down from tribe to tribe to keep the rest of us in the dark... > > I still have three of them, they serve me quite well, and though I've > owned (and still own) several other types of loopers, nothing does it for me > (and my style) as well as the Repeater. May its creators know that they are > appreciated... > > Stephen > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5a9360cae7804659c06a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen, you can't say things like =A0 =A0 1, 2, and 3, are way off bas= e.=A0 without offering some insight into the situation... were you there? I= respect that you do seem to know something about Peter Toms role than I di= d (actually I was disapointed to hear that he has no stake - coming back to= this point****) It seems like that from the outside, which is where we are= , what Jeff described is EXACTLY how it looked.. I know noting of 3 differe= nt owners (well I do - but it hardly excuses them from a customer point of = view) They have a very great product but its is a very poor brand, or BECAM= E a very poor brand I should say.

I can see that as a real lover of Repeater Stephen, you want to applaud= their achievements rather than trash them, and I agree.

*** So who= DOES have any stake inthe remains, who currently owns the software, either= the Hardware OS... Or Any virtual Repeater...?

Does ANYONE have the answer to this??? Who OWNS the software??? It must= be someone who wants to earn back a bit of cash surely?

Mark
=A0=

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 5:09 AM, S V G = <vsyevolod@yaho= o.com> wrote:


=A0Jeff wrote:
=A0<<If it was "almost ready" then
it doesn't take hundreds or even tens of thousands of dollars to
finish and distribute. =A0If you've got programmers committed to the project they'll make it happen. =A0Sales weren't going to give Adam= and
the other two principals a nice salary but what the heck, get it out
there and recoup at least some of your expenses.>>


=A0 =A0 Makes sense, though we'll probably never know enough of = the story to even make an informed opinion.




=A0<<This is of course pure speculation but something is fishy. =A0S= ome
likely possibilities:

1) They never had anything and did the classic vaporware play hoping
=A0 =A0for an enthusiastic response they didn't get.

2) They grossly underestimated how hard it was going to be to
=A0 =A0port firmware designed for custom hardware to a general
=A0 =A0computer OS with all the associated UI, performance,
=A0 =A0plugin hosting, and latency issues. =A0It wasn't even half done= .

3) They outsourced the development to relatively di= sinterested
=A0 =A0programmers with no financial stake in the product's success. =A0 =A0Once the contractor money dried up, there was no one left
=A0 =A0that knew how to finish it.

4) There were really almost done but ugly internal politics
=A0 =A0shelved the project and the code rights now reside
=A0 =A0with one of the principals that doesn't know what to
=A0 =A0do with it.>>





=A0 =A0 1, 2, and 3, are way off base. =A0I don't know if 4 is c= lose or not. =A0I do know that they would have finished it and sold it if t= here were any possible way to do it. =A0Without going into any kind of spec= ulation here on this marvelous Interweb, I will say that's it's pre= tty much all a moot point. =A0It's not available for sale, nor is it av= ailable for an outside person to 'finish up'.


=A0 =A0 And to address a few other points that others brought up, no Peter= Toms has no stake in the company, nor does he currently have any control o= ver the sale of the OS software. =A0He only has a stockpile of parts and is= one of the few repair shops that actually owns schematics to the entire li= ne.

=A0 =A0 There were three different owners (or groups of owners) of the Ele= ctrix brand. =A0Each one failed to communicate well with the public, though= to lump them into one large group is to miss the individual characteristic= s that each owner (or group of owners) brought to the table. =A0Each one ha= d a different style of communicating with Peter Toms, some more readily ava= ilable, some not so much. =A0None of them did well with the public side, th= ough they weren't connected with each other, nor was there a master pla= n passed down from tribe to tribe to keep the rest of us in the dark...

=A0 =A0 I still have three of them, they serve me quite well, and though I= 've owned (and still own) several other types of loopers, nothing does = it for me (and my style) as well as the Repeater. =A0May its creators know = that they are appreciated...

=A0 =A0 Stephen















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--001636c5a9360cae7804659c06a7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 08:16:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 013713BE86; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49C4AFEE.2010502@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 04:14:22 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:16:01 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 21 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00), less than two hours from now. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 08:21:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE2403BE8A; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 170218295/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.236.63/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.236.63 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvUBAIhAxElPRuw//2dsb2JhbAAI1FSCMwMBgUcGhyg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,399,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="170218295" Message-ID: <49C4A5B4.1020104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:30:44 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Re: Flexible MFC References: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> In-Reply-To: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:21:38 +0000 (UTC) William Walker wrote: > I like the size and weight of the LG, the accuracy and feel of the > switches, and the fact it will accept light weight expression pedals > like EV-5’s It gives me 12 presets and two expression pedals per bank, > the larger size unit adds additional EX ports as Andy stated. It's also possible to get the small standalone unit with the 4 expression pedal inputs, and no external switches, that's what I have. This is called the LG4. As the pedals can work as switches ( at toe up and 2 down ) I'm fairly sure that it would be possible to make up a switch box to access two functions for each LG pedal input. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 12:32:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C275F3BE89; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=+wWXubEbTtWJFZ1u9fX97SxgkA17x3ZtbMzgy8YyxVo=; b=oATiAqDaV+HKx3+fuMlrQvsgprqklMtaPZ/9T6Huz1d82i9rP3FwKpfOMXhZETej0G juNq9afT594tlGO1VRgIhGt9SywVUkOp2jov3ou62ci8G0W+e3jdI2DUvf8FTnX6cwWn KOFz7QhwfD56Jj/vYK2meWed9VLebx4y3NKxQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xOvi2n6k9h+v79ioVoaweMfpcXon/elLxlnfwORRVGUS8K6HP5Q0PNT9GQKzoQOzTq qGzaym5mQmenkVE0+ZH0pOWMoYkfwgiYEixF/4bHwPSb+bzJ9UbxiZwdYvpByg9pQ2QH lWX+MmT+p3ul+IFzrZEtTczYFbLN/aB5ihDYU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> References: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:32:44 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a9333b4fbd0fc735 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903210532u6a83540ao64af8cf0d967e6fb@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Flexible MFC From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6da98f2f253050465a03a95 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:32:46 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6da98f2f253050465a03a95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:06 AM, William Walker wro= te: > This conclusion has come of course after owning and wearing out 3 FCB= =92s > I must admit that I'm waiting for my first FCB to wear out, just so that I can get a LG..!! Maybe I should stamp harder? One question.. what about the ANGLE and height of the switches.. it looks like one must hover a leg in the air of a Little G, I do ALOT of UNDOing, a= t super fast clickety click speed.. is that possible by leaning a heel on the floor and wobbling a big toe... or must a stomp like a --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6da98f2f253050465a03a95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 2:06 AM, William= Walker <bil= lwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:

=A0This conclusion has come of course after owning and wearing out 3 FCB=92s


I must admit that I'm wai= ting for my first FCB to wear out, just so that I can get a LG..!! Maybe I = should stamp harder?

One question.. what about the ANGLE and height of the switches.. it loo= ks like one must hover a leg in the air of a Little G, I do ALOT of UNDOing= , at super fast clickety click speed.. is that possible by leaning a heel o= n the floor and wobbling a big toe... or must a stomp like a


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--0016e6da98f2f253050465a03a95-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 12:33:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A1D53BE8C; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Y5ZuGPkm55iIUl/2YosbbKHspBb53K8qNZ+jhCCG94M=; b=xW9CL5jLEziL7Q06irZyQkq+y36748T4IjwuzQ8I5zN6kuZdNvVh/xllqZimLbHsXB xMGEiLz8TkdyBhvNIQKNmI0leKbgVIb8GoI8pMm62qJLTbf9K5Dac6arN+RlM0yb7CPB lynYikJjvoR4/LmWkEqIASlSR31AOaqzBhaAU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=CEZVGevWUezTfw+SsPjfXPcLS92w8XLJRDLBHSb9RE2hfSfSHrunO47fY8keLQumaQ +6sQtqQ0Y9e6owqfAZ4KEBRiZKGxUtRQhU9YS8677/1a4mWWNfRcXBCSLEw16lvyy8Gr q3tpm9XJNBVb6hHgIzFN0rzguFr1Rj87x9Md8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903210532u6a83540ao64af8cf0d967e6fb@mail.gmail.com> References: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> <9ab0c76f0903210532u6a83540ao64af8cf0d967e6fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:33:55 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ba931db8beb0bf02 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903210533l622d0b1p1159e7d6b1fc98c8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Flexible MFC From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ad4d27606b0465a03f75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:33:57 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ad4d27606b0465a03f75 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit weird .. didnt finish my sentance... just suddenly hit SEND... Well you can fill in your own end to the sentance ...or must I stomp like a ______ Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5ad4d27606b0465a03f75 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit weird .. didnt finish my sentance... just suddenly hit SEND... Well you can fill in your own end to the sentance


...or must I stomp like a ______



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--001636c5ad4d27606b0465a03f75-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 13:19:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 301AD3BE8B; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:19:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:19:35 UTC Message-ID: <49C4E838.8030304@gordius.be> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:14:32 +0100 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Flexible MFC References: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> <9ab0c76f0903210532u6a83540ao64af8cf0d967e6fb@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903210533l622d0b1p1159e7d6b1fc98c8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903210533l622d0b1p1159e7d6b1fc98c8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:19:36 +0000 (UTC) nelephant ? ;-)

"leaning a heel on the floor and wobbling a big toe" is possible for the lower row of switches. For the upper row you need to lift up your foot. I'll leave it up to the actual users around here to give comment on how easy or difficult that works. In the mean time just keep stomping your FCB like a __________ !

regards,
Xavier

mark francombe wrote:
weird .. didnt finish my sentance... just suddenly hit SEND... Well you can fill in your own end to the sentance


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 13:33:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 729A03BE8E; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SPzeEd2BSfKogw0oMiG5NCivvLPNmdY4wxjT+BiojEQ=; b=dbPpzxA4UViX8xv/1ilFQc8qwZCdFrnrGkH0k1jrLbF/Re5VhIoKOjeSLQqYJjj/Cd HZLJj1XM2K3R2flEVZYq+jQ64vTACmGRYvaG4tP4PvzU1MEMiMIV1Z/TROZwYhgo+Ryk LhKAzT1YZqrOlce0sPZraQxWVp1u/NNpMDLC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=wDNRgK0TvmjReeKdKEOmIjrtTk9B3O13gP3ECoaNi1nRFx3nLW7R3uQbRDF2aj1kNV p1E84vWqsPOag9cS4IDmkbml4kT3AUnWwQQ8JSKgL+hhQ/0kjIx9iPDMWpseXQnkTfmo KyvTNO6hU2Zco9QgWCwg8jWgtCwWH0uqo16sg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49C4A5B4.1020104@tiscali.co.uk> References: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> <49C4A5B4.1020104@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:33:37 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Flexible MFC From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174bddeca05ff60465a11489 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:33:38 +0000 (UTC) --0015174bddeca05ff60465a11489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i visited the webpage some time ago and couldn't see anything on the LG4. same price for a LG4 than a regular LG? ... 2009/3/21 andy butler > > > William Walker wrote: > >> I like the size and weight of the LG, the accuracy and feel of the >> switches, and the fact it will accept light weight expression pedals lik= e >> EV-5=92s It gives me 12 presets and two expression pedals per bank, the = larger >> size unit adds additional EX ports as Andy stated. >> > > It's also possible to get the small standalone unit with the 4 expression > pedal inputs, and no external switches, that's what I have. > This is called the LG4. > > As the pedals can work as switches ( at toe up and 2 down ) I'm fairly su= re > that it would be possible to make up a switch box to access > two functions for each LG pedal input. > > andy > > --=20 Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0015174bddeca05ff60465a11489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i visited the webpage some time ago and couldn't see anything on the LG= 4.
same price for a LG4 than a regular LG? ...


2009/3/21 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>


William Walker wrote:
I like the size and weight =A0of the LG, the accuracy and feel of the switc= hes, and the fact it will accept light weight expression pedals like EV-5= =92s It gives me 12 presets and two expression pedals per bank, the larger = size unit adds additional EX ports as Andy stated.

It's also possible to get the small standalone unit with the 4 expressi= on
pedal inputs, and no external switches, that's what I have.
This is called the LG4.

As the pedals can work as switches ( at toe up and 2 down ) I'm fairly = sure that it would be possible to make up a switch box to access
two functions for each LG pedal input.

andy




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--0015174bddeca05ff60465a11489-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 14:06:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17BA33BE87; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:06:21 UTC Message-ID: <49C4F32D.3040606@gordius.be> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:01:17 +0100 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Flexible MFC References: <50860C833739472CBE540679239A0305@williamsteed> <49C4A5B4.1020104@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Sorry Raul,
I guess I'm terribly lazy when it comes to keeping the website up to date. For the moment, I'm in a situation where I can just keep up with the low ordering quantities and still combine the Gordius project with another life. So I'm not urged in doing what I should do for promoting the products in a decent way. But you're right, I will at least add this info to the website one of these days.

The standard products are
LG-M + LG, which have 2 switch inputs + 2 expression pedal inputs
the larger LG-X, which has 4 expression pedal inputs (and more built-in switches)
Optionally, one can also order
LG-M/4 and LG/4, which have a modified jack input circuit, featuring 4 expression pedals. Additional cost =  40 Euro.
LG-X/2, which has 2 switch inputs + 2 expr.pedal inputs. No additional cost.

And anticipating the logical replies : yes, a next generation of products (not near-future...) will have more flexible input possibilities, so that you can at least connect whatever you want, instead of the current restrictions of switch input OR expr.pedal input...

Regards,
Xavier


Raul Bonell wrote:
i visited the webpage some time ago and couldn't see anything on the LG4.
same price for a LG4 than a regular LG? ...


2009/3/21 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>


William Walker wrote:
I like the size and weight  of the LG, the accuracy and feel of the switches, and the fact it will accept light weight expression pedals like EV-5’s It gives me 12 presets and two expression pedals per bank, the larger size unit adds additional EX ports as Andy stated.

It's also possible to get the small standalone unit with the 4 expression
pedal inputs, and no external switches, that's what I have.
This is called the LG4.

As the pedals can work as switches ( at toe up and 2 down ) I'm fairly sure that it would be possible to make up a switch box to access
two functions for each LG pedal input.

andy




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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 14:46:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A1E3BE87; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=z0TbYmjFZ2K1AamLgZN3PjD92cdtCLzm0JM+k2iVE6Y=; b=uymzXSE3QyKXXLrrZoa2IDoTYdQCfFeg8UaXhJMIvLyVCjRqv8CAEa/b3+j3f8NtTU NucgutD0YODktTpjM89wDOkSdTPxOYV8bsXHjz8lokrTvwDMNfM9RHu8E1mxWlmWbJxj JJcsxxOQ8XzXIX600z2llsqI2vipv9dNDhDGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=ugPRtf0tKTtPGbxoxaZfpKUqP2FAY3YzsEheuMHlOvj/ZoViEKXrT402jT4ZFc7Zyt GCKgDolqSmGrKLFhWalDmLk+twB8ej9+pwmc4kNs2ROVu6P66fNcoY90mVt2kkGyUuu3 QvRa8OW3JPGaxDryUjVpcoDkI3eUstL7YRJHo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:46:33 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903210746w4bd78808y6a332a130344c700@mail.gmail.com> Subject: FS: various items - Boss FC50 MFC, Emu Esi-32 rack sampler, patchbays etc. From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, there are a few devices lying around my place which I really don't need anymore, so if anyone is interested. The majority of devices are of low value but might be of interest to some - some are of such low value that pickup (Munich/Germany) would be the best option indeed. I'm mostly interested in trade offers, especially if you're interested in more than one thing. Come to think of it, this might be the best option, because someone interested to buy a used audio patchbay might not get me hot enough value-wise to even get my butt up and bring it to the post office. If interested in anything, contact me offlist, please. All devices are fully functional and look great optically, unless otherwise mentioned. 1. E-mu ESi-32 Rack Sampler: The 2HU rack sampler classic by E-Mu, maxxed out at 32MB of RAM, SW version 3.02. Some of its tech specs: 32 voices, eight outputs, SCSI connectivity, built-in FDD, reads both AKAI S-1000 series and E-Mu EMAXII, EIII sample libraries. Comes with the E-Si Production Set Vol.12 (2CDs, containing different acoustic and electronic instruments, world music and some groove loops) and the EIII VolX Production Set (note: this is a 1:1 copy of the original CD, which got lost). All of these CDs are E-Mu proprietary format, so you can't browse them on your PC; but I believe a free software is available for doing it. Some specs: http://www.vintagesynth.com/emu/esi32.php My comment: this was E-Mu's attempt to bring a somewhat stripped-down of their then-flagship Emulator III. The Emulator/Emax series was (and still is) famous for its filter sounds. Non-typical for samplers of that time, a very powerful DSP was included, allowing for timestretch/compression, and one nice performance feature is to scrub samples with a MIDI controller (e.g. pitch wheel). If anybody is on the lookout for a rack sampler with only 2HU space requirements, this is the thing to get. I'd also throw in a SCSI 2-space enclosure, a small SCSI harddisk (I believe it's 1 or 2 GB), SCSI CD-ROM drive and SCSI cable so you're immediately set. 2. E-mu Proteus 1/XR+: The Proteus is a ROM sample player based on the engine of the Emulator III, so it shares its sonic properties with the ESi-32 mentioned above. This rare 1/XR+ version combines the soundset of the original Proteus 1 (rock/pop sounds mainly) with the soundset of the Proteus 2 Orchestral (with classical orchestral sounds) and double the storage capacity for user presets. 6 audio outputs, 1HU rackmount. Getting the most out of this will require to get a computer editor; again I remember there was a free one (for the PC platform). My comment: This has for a long time been my main synthesizer; for those of you familiar with my JANUS album, this is where the majority of sounds (drums, bass guitars, piano, strings, orchestral percussion, bass clarinet etc.) came from. If for some reason someone is on the lookout for a small, versatile "bread and butter" hardware synth, look no further. 3. Patchbays: Behringer PX2000 (2 or 3 of them): A 24-channel audio patchbay. As with patchbays, every channel has 4 connectors (2 front, 2 back), which can be individually configured for thru (front to back connected), parallel (all four connected), normalized (back jacks connected, inserting one on the front will break that connection and then behave as thru) or half-normalized (same as before, but if only one jack is inserted on the front, the connection between the two on the back will remain). Simple, sturdy, works well. There are some marks from the paper strips I used to glue to it to mark the connections. 4. Ibanez "Soundtank" AW-1 AutoWah stompbox: Basic guitar/bass stompbox with a very workable autowah effect. Used to use it with a simple synthesizer on clavinet sounds to bring out ultra-funky grooves. Knobs say "range", "sens" and "depth". Runs on batteries or external PSU (both not included). My comment: I'd recommend this especially on percussive keyboard sounds (e-piano, clavinet, etc.) to give an otherwise boring sound new life. 5. Boss OS-2 Overdrive/Distortion: Your run-of-the mill distortion stompbox. Separate gain and level settings allow to work well with the amplifier of your choice. The nice thing about it is a dial marked "color" with allows you to seamlessly go from bluesy distortion to ugly, eighties-metal distortion. Runs on batteries or PSU (both not included). 6. Yamaha MCJ-8 MIDI patchbay: 1HU rackmount programmable 8in/8out MIDI patchbay. This does not work as a MIDI interface and also doesn't allow for tricky routing, so it's basically your cheap solution to connect a multitude of synths (which you don't use simultaneously) to a computer with only 1 or 2 MIDI ports. Best, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 15:54:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D465B3BE8B; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zyAktyk3jbvcKVbGVhYdARsubROF705Bkn+Lb3cb8/4=; b=N5O43PFib0KCyvmMf0PYaoSNyCiPAvtEmpeVHdcnZEHZA5GrbwTcK7n4SpnXbLiRdu V0d9Z5OuwvQgfGVuR8jPYwWUW5Wxi4DdaboPjEKv6c3mC0n5Ij9j5aSrqkkHIbimRHew dYSvmYlXgDL0eawH4HQHj305m9WNkXGkLS+dc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=kP47DFY91iDLE85TSoEDB55N2TUO13coHxTti7SvRs4gaojB0muGVe1QGExkRJp/cs inH0PGFj7S5i9dAhg/OgW69nfZM/E/MFh/N81UjX28DQ+kEY/z5NB63BqpFZcFvBhlMr cvfj6B1lJz4Myi0cqtwS91bxj4H0pheY2yq38= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 08:47:03 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3de0415c20a5ec5a Message-ID: <37f071c00903210847i534fb366t2e539c01344e1158@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:54:27 +0000 (UTC) I think it has something to do with the pitch shifting algorithms. They are part of a larger line of processors and the owners are kind of proprietary about them and didn't want that code loose in the world for anyone else to use. Something like that but its early, I could be totally wrong making all of that up. Kevin On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, mark francombe w= rote: > Stephen, you can't say things like =A0 =A0 1, 2, and 3, are way off base. > without offering some insight into the situation... were you there? I > respect that you do seem to know something about Peter Toms role than I d= id > (actually I was disapointed to hear that he has no stake - coming back to > this point****) It seems like that from the outside, which is where we ar= e, > what Jeff described is EXACTLY how it looked.. I know noting of 3 differe= nt > owners (well I do - but it hardly excuses them from a customer point of > view) They have a very great product but its is a very poor brand, or BEC= AME > a very poor brand I should say. > > I can see that as a real lover of Repeater Stephen, you want to applaud > their achievements rather than trash them, and I agree. > > *** So who DOES have any stake inthe remains, who currently owns the > software, either the Hardware OS... Or Any virtual Repeater...? > > Does ANYONE have the answer to this??? Who OWNS the software??? It must b= e > someone who wants to earn back a bit of cash surely? > > Mark > > --=20 Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 17:03:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E33453BE7E; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49C52B8C.7080707@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:01:48 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #624 for March 19, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:03:25 +0000 (UTC) Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #624 March 19, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight was The Mechanics of a Thought on DiN Records. Ian Boddy: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Jeffrey Koepper Blue Sector Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Jeffrey Koepper Astral Projection Radiate (Ricochet Dream) Sensitive Chaos Fifty Light Years Emerging Transparency from Home (Ephemeral Radio) Robert Carty Saturn's Song Starlight Vol. 1 (Deep Sky) Conrad Schnitzler Alternate Currents Rektifikation (Ricochet Dream) Conrad Schnitzler Zener Diode Rektifikation (Ricochet Dream) Conrad Schnitzler Mr. Thyristor Rektifikation (Ricochet Dream) Dan Pound Part Two Esoterica (Poundsounds) Robert Rich and Part Two Zerkalo (Faria) Faryus 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ian Boddy Out There The Mechanics of a Thought (DiNDDL) Ian Boddy In Here The Mechanics of a Thought (DiNDDL) Ian Boddy The Mechanics of a The Mechanics of a Thought Thought (DiNDDL) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Elemental on DiN Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 17:59:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE5433BE8A; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:59:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49C538BC.2010105@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:58:04 -0500 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 21, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8z9xV.A.uHC.HsSxJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:59:35 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090321.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #148 March 21, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Another Green Adjusting the Mirror Sequences No. 5 World] VA [Corporation] Terraforma Sequences No. 5 VA [Nigel Hills] Erath Logic Sequences No. 5 Dan Pound Part Three Esoterica (Poundsounds) Ruben Garcia Pulse Through the Looking Glass (Trance Port) Sensitive Chaos Tanzen Filter Emerging Transparency (Ephemeral Radio) Numina Hieroglyph Sound Symbols (Numinamusic) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Lisa Lynne and Aran Boat Song Two Worlds One (New Earth) Aryeh Frankfurter Al Gromer Khan I Got Vilayat Sitar Secrets (New Earth) Khan's Blessing Stefano Barone Intro Particolare#uno (Candyrat) Stefano Barone Particolare#uno Particolare#uno (Candyrat) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Pinnacle The Deepest Sea Meld (Everything To Excess) VA [CAP] La Danza Dei Dante's Inferno (Musea) Contrari VA [Ozone Player] Inferno XXI Dante's Inferno (Musea) VA [Sinkadus] Stuck In Hell Dante's Inferno (Musea) Toy Matinee Last Plane Out Live at the Roxy 1991 (none) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00/ ITZ-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 18:55:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E2EB3BE80; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=822Ep0sjWi21mJ42A7VMiFzq8kg5v1Z53QKWBGNy9G8=; b=uTFsPfJJ+/34GVTkxEfqKdQFRllnuIbWGhD61IWuAZRYwailuh3LJL0LDIyHHDGQPU gfid1OidVPkKZhjfp4xNF2wB+Bwk9oFw/5I4TLgbsqnFyUlf9uqE+vLg2ydL050M96qE TOAbuLDFsFDB6fIMuKatQmE6jQkOwz20MAgck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cjA3ZWzk7sqbPHFrBA1u1n1pZ70G0uBs2Jj+vexUsAfyhyh8zgG9WuohcpuQzdqIlC ftTusGMx5yXX9yIF4FaJuu4LZXf8krYFlE1U+I5zWOp9RzfB06mPW8q8UlMe2AK4af7Y CsUt9WwGABu06V5RhqBXxtTwh2rGr2xeZxPEs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:47:46 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: echoplex for sale From: andy soto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c13b22bcf8e0465a57883 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:55:25 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c13b22bcf8e0465a57883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I'm putting my last EDP for sale. it is the OBERHEIM (white version) with loop III and no memory upgrades.I don't have the footswitch, It has some scratches on the paint but otherwise it works OK. 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=A0Hi I'm putting my last EDP for sale. it is the OBERHEIM (white v= ersion) with loop III and no memory upgrades.I don't have the footswitc= h, It has some scratches on the paint but otherwise it works OK.=A0 I'm= asking 350=80 (that's 350 EUROS) I'm located in Paris, France.

=A0Thank you,

=A0Andy
--0015174c13b22bcf8e0465a57883-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 19:06:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EAB53BE87; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3605 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:06:22 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Message-id: In-reply-to: References: Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:01:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Boston, Re: East coast loop-friendly venues? Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:06:23 +0000 (UTC) For Boston try 119 Gallery http://www.119gallery.org/ Walter Wright Nave Gallery http://www.artsomerville.org/ Randy Winchester Outpost 186 http://www.zeitgeist-outpost.org/ Lily Pad http://www.lily-pad.net/ Open Sound THE SERIES Lou Cohen The Boston Improv mailing list and, if you play Boston and would like video improv accompaniment, keep me in mind. -- Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld "Don't make book, if you cannot cover bets." -- Tom Lehrer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 19:08:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93BEF3BE8A; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Return-Receipt-To:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=sEE/3/vSubmtOLrBSPR3+3AGQWSu/3+e60KUnIS69+MLtnclLREhxLapuEx3A5/mL0ocpzD1maI+0RMrVYwpLoe6mB0ESn4+pwaSV2E6NfAkcJdXdLWdmZ5c71iysJ0J1JmVU3g715rujSQWZfKYnz5wNFA0NvmBOjXSxxjTkpE= ; X-YMail-OSG: U5blv.IVM1k02tscNetgaHeG6YIS0SpLTBrCsB9LIEskaEns8sJtlKl0sxf6v43TX3LAtYD0BT5Iv256lk5d8QCXxAvqgFvQR4WgCP3Scgo1ZXeA7dPd8HUAefSxv9hEX2EWVYXxU1NZYJ2E.pOtngpkDsvFDtrE41sUGG7sE2r_av_q1r1agHRsENLjT.QB6ZFIWG7w_pTTG1y7tMysjs3Tr9l3l2ajq6C. X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1432183832 Message-ID:<1432183832-1237662531-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-330425731-@bxe1037.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ot- Cool gig From: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:08:42 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Hey everyone, wanted to share with you that I gave a performance/seminar on Kalimba and looping with the legendary bassist Victor Wooten and J.D Blair (drummer for Shania Twain) yesterday.... See the photo's at www.myspace.com/kevinspears. Thanks, Kevin. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 19:42:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39CDF3BE82; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49C5432B.5080008@Verizon.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:42:35 -0400 From: Dan Ash User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New instruments Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Some very interesting video and/or audio of inventors and their musical creations. Some are Max/MSP interfaces, others from - one can't imagine where... Set some time aside for this - there are quite a few with more than laboratory potential... http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mods/multimedia/2009/03/gallery_instrument Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 19:59:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF6283BE82; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/+SZdIIOD1Gh96naccb7HtuE0WX9v6PJz9mwwS+BY6E=; b=Rf8RcMCE5Z4USd16OChl23ryoDhxgnOI3uavX7vJOhpWCvdsdhvZFJIZ3vcHUjYaaf Hif72rbSpgmwA1c+nK9Sy8JvGbso2+qYfqkCGIQevkcG+BUFWFlxj5bEevAa7Epghb+b +IkkoVE48c91xQlEyV5MVsCyTeNfh7GMqbU/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=SR0LvvlqAklPPX1izKiTVoeGp6W9MP4UavBdUw4GJazInJSJVJkY/QJNwWpiZRbA/O YaBCIsUZz20vO5mzTNQHSpuifLMP+6qd5DOVSmdig3+T6UylKWFuKM2tZXUnoYZVDOH3 MgXrjz3zVPpM2d+M3Sy/i69eflO7w7h/NzZJ0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <37f071c00903210847i534fb366t2e539c01344e1158@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00903210847i534fb366t2e539c01344e1158@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:59:50 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ef0e4fe275584454 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5abdfd9c2550465a67949 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:59:51 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5abdfd9c2550465a67949 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That could be it Kevin, sure... but WHO IS IT??? Maybe there is someone, who wants to make them an offer...? I like to think that what you say is true, that there is some cunning people protecting their work for some greater plan that they have up their sleeves, but you know, I dont think so... I bet that when Electrix folded, the clever people were running about trying to get new jobs, servers were switched off, accounts with hosting companies were terminated and in the furore the bankruptcy lawyers collected all the laptops and shelves and tables and chairs and printers and flogged the lot... paid off who ever needed paying, took their cut, went home and moaned to the wife about the "Bloody IT business"... Meanwhile.... in a long forgoton filing cabinet...now in the basement of "Grabbit, Seezit, Sellitt and son" there stirs some atoms lying upon the surface of a dusty hard-drive... the atoms shift and move exitedly, electrons spinning around nuclei with pride, knowing that one day, somehow they will again be required to arrange themselves in a particular order, that their master so once ordained, that they will again be manipulated by enormous lifeforms into even greater and more exquisite perfection than that of their predecessors. They live for the day that may never come, that they will become ... Repeater OS. 2.6 ! ! ! ! ! you never know... Mark On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > I think it has something to do with the pitch shifting algorithms. > They are part of a larger line of processors and the owners are kind > of proprietary about them and didn't want that code loose in the world > for anyone else to use. Something like that but its early, I could be > totally wrong making all of that up. > > Kevin > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Stephen, you can't say things like 1, 2, and 3, are way off base. > > without offering some insight into the situation... were you there? I > > respect that you do seem to know something about Peter Toms role than I > did > > (actually I was disapointed to hear that he has no stake - coming back to > > this point****) It seems like that from the outside, which is where we > are, > > what Jeff described is EXACTLY how it looked.. I know noting of 3 > different > > owners (well I do - but it hardly excuses them from a customer point of > > view) They have a very great product but its is a very poor brand, or > BECAME > > a very poor brand I should say. > > > > I can see that as a real lover of Repeater Stephen, you want to applaud > > their achievements rather than trash them, and I agree. > > > > *** So who DOES have any stake inthe remains, who currently owns the > > software, either the Hardware OS... Or Any virtual Repeater...? > > > > Does ANYONE have the answer to this??? Who OWNS the software??? It must > be > > someone who wants to earn back a bit of cash surely? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5abdfd9c2550465a67949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That could be it Kevin, sure... but WHO IS IT??? Maybe there is someone, wh= o wants to make them an offer...?

I like to think that what you say = is true, that there is some cunning people protecting their work for some g= reater plan that they have up their sleeves, but you know, I dont think so.= ..

I bet that when Electrix folded, the clever people were running about t= rying to get new jobs, servers were switched off, accounts with hosting com= panies were terminated and in the furore the bankruptcy lawyers collected a= ll the laptops and shelves and tables and chairs and printers and flogged t= he lot... paid off who ever needed paying, took their cut, went home and mo= aned to the wife about the "Bloody IT business"... Meanwhile.... = in a long forgoton filing cabinet...now in the basement of "Grabbit, S= eezit, Sellitt and son" there stirs some atoms lying upon the surface = of a dusty hard-drive... the atoms shift and move exitedly, electrons spinn= ing around nuclei with pride, knowing that one day, somehow they will again= be required to arrange themselves in a particular order, that their master= so once ordained, that they will again be manipulated by enormous lifeform= s into even greater and more exquisite perfection than that of their predec= essors. They live for the day that may never come, that they will become ..= . Repeater OS. 2.6 ! ! ! ! !



you never know...



Mark

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando <kevin@minds-eye.org>= wrote:
I think it has so= mething to do with the pitch shifting algorithms.
They are part of a larger line of processors and the owners are kind
of proprietary about them and didn't want that code loose in the world<= br> for anyone else to use. =A0Something like that but its early, I could be totally wrong making all of that up.

Kevin

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Stephen, you can't say things like =A0 =A0 1, 2, and 3, are way of= f base.
> without offering some insight into the situation... were you there? I<= br> > respect that you do seem to know something about Peter Toms role than = I did
> (actually I was disapointed to hear that he has no stake - coming back= to
> this point****) It seems like that from the outside, which is where we= are,
> what Jeff described is EXACTLY how it looked.. I know noting of 3 diff= erent
> owners (well I do - but it hardly excuses them from a customer point o= f
> view) They have a very great product but its is a very poor brand, or = BECAME
> a very poor brand I should say.
>
> I can see that as a real lover of Repeater Stephen, you want to applau= d
> their achievements rather than trash them, and I agree.
>
> *** So who DOES have any stake inthe remains, who currently owns the > software, either the Hardware OS... Or Any virtual Repeater...?
>
> Does ANYONE have the answer to this??? Who OWNS the software??? It mus= t be
> someone who wants to earn back a bit of cash surely?
>
> Mark
>
>


--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.<= br>
- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--001636c5abdfd9c2550465a67949-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 20:25:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8286D3BE87; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=27gX53Bkmmykt56FwVP+qagCYqkqf9NwS+5fYpev9+o=; b=ksOZ8YPiWTfrM1ZJiYvY/bgXp+CdYRvDiUHyXsxKpiC9ukg/xA9qdSxlLJGImg1Qo6 M445n6TpZjNah5kN7yl5Obu3hQyz1GJlBPUqYLQUlLFgP6cF+ATx7ziQ2T9GtF6FO7/8 MBBCbtmPY9GBW9VGexQvAJwwqfQLPYwPxCwfU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MMDFsPQ3Wbqth7qrhYgAFpzSc0M1bUYgYWuoWkOUzeJaUbS9fCrENBYlGYpHncTFen /bUmFNTzqTQMr1xd4Bs/BOmv3k/O/FWV7Os+lnFLKIOjNtvNSJ2CspQOSOrNLQFA37bz pY5ze56Td9rSlyHlRW9VA51CUvVDAfdIJya2g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00903210847i534fb366t2e539c01344e1158@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:25:47 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c00903211325h625d39bbv8c0e2691b90cb476@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:25:48 +0000 (UTC) I think this is it. http://www.ivl.com/ So they have some pretty proprietary stuff that is in use in a lot of other products. I think this is why the Repeater is now fixed in amber forever more. Kevin On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:59 PM, mark francombe wrote: > That could be it Kevin, sure... but WHO IS IT??? Maybe there is someone, who > wants to make them an offer...? > > I like to think that what you say is true, that there is some cunning people > protecting their work for some greater plan that they have up their sleeves, > but you know, I dont think so... > > I bet that when Electrix folded, the clever people were running about trying > to get new jobs, servers were switched off, accounts with hosting companies > were terminated and in the furore the bankruptcy lawyers collected all the > laptops and shelves and tables and chairs and printers and flogged the > lot... paid off who ever needed paying, took their cut, went home and moaned > to the wife about the "Bloody IT business"... Meanwhile.... in a long > forgoton filing cabinet...now in the basement of "Grabbit, Seezit, Sellitt > and son" there stirs some atoms lying upon the surface of a dusty > hard-drive... the atoms shift and move exitedly, electrons spinning around > nuclei with pride, knowing that one day, somehow they will again be required > to arrange themselves in a particular order, that their master so once > ordained, that they will again be manipulated by enormous lifeforms into > even greater and more exquisite perfection than that of their predecessors. > They live for the day that may never come, that they will become ... > Repeater OS. 2.6 ! ! ! ! ! > > > > you never know... > > > > Mark > > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 20:27:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35C9A3BE8A; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=54uCJx5950HRZdP2aBWXWjEjEOG3THHYYX9P7ckBcN4=; b=B5L+9hsXKnnQ6bkb7mdXL5ukxHIUs4S0zPJIt9dls9Yzkp3DFg8DuOTfUDpMKGXpZH wtPNo/RXcIAdPjaJB5A3mwsMpMamcs1o2gSzFffCbgEwO7j4rVLXZEWA0SLkNZ5tL3dF MzyZox1q1PXR6pF6y+JTI73r1+LTrW1yzMRxw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=mQAzMeJI1E+Dq1XTR5GLE9Z0wbhXS2UcdxnxNIfeg0qAG3dlC+ePeO4HMZ4bvzzjjH j3gcEq5WU8awcd2CoSJqwOuN6SZ9I+BoKmsea6VlFMIaRQuVQApd7xU0aw3lDfA2zP2h KlDv3VH3o3sJ7WikNl/SHqETV+zTV4g3LAM/4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00903210847i534fb366t2e539c01344e1158@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:27:05 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 156c82aebbe5f897 Message-ID: <37f071c00903211327h6c297dbes4d941b61d37716b4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:27:06 +0000 (UTC) I think this is it. http://www.ivl.com/ So they have some pretty proprietary stuff that is in use in a lot of other products. I think this is why the Repeater is now fixed in amber forever more. Kevin On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:59 PM, mark francombe wrote: > That could be it Kevin, sure... but WHO IS IT??? Maybe there is someone, who > wants to make them an offer...? > > I like to think that what you say is true, that there is some cunning people > protecting their work for some greater plan that they have up their sleeves, > but you know, I dont think so... > > I bet that when Electrix folded, the clever people were running about trying > to get new jobs, servers were switched off, accounts with hosting companies > were terminated and in the furore the bankruptcy lawyers collected all the > laptops and shelves and tables and chairs and printers and flogged the > lot... paid off who ever needed paying, took their cut, went home and moaned > to the wife about the "Bloody IT business"... Meanwhile.... in a long > forgoton filing cabinet...now in the basement of "Grabbit, Seezit, Sellitt > and son" there stirs some atoms lying upon the surface of a dusty > hard-drive... the atoms shift and move exitedly, electrons spinning around > nuclei with pride, knowing that one day, somehow they will again be required > to arrange themselves in a particular order, that their master so once > ordained, that they will again be manipulated by enormous lifeforms into > even greater and more exquisite perfection than that of their predecessors. > They live for the day that may never come, that they will become ... > Repeater OS. 2.6 ! ! ! ! ! > -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 20:41:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6DA3C3BE8B; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237668058; bh=xMTOg7scrZbC3vfdjFLSH5p6M9AufuRuzf5ZXFazXoE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KKwyDX2osxdnT99sxMOfO2dF4ShP1AROfw0Cq8+EYmM/wukZ/Eb/LyI4r+FG+OPOWt2gQUfHhht8cnCOlNQbupM2ap33Nhu7F+Wn1NOHcS1AucPIz08mwYshMO7DTgGtFOXYnKjAuHucLWPvrncUenidCh0id1/HsS1f/Qmm8dU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ccVBZODKwOjQd5+3wbBD/vYQdcNWjuVhfRipsu8iOFlqUEkwbmZfQ7YFwd/JSftRBtV7AFd5BDGeAiUuTHDdhPCMHNcLORqTfNCabrv4kQKO16ntG3KaOpNWLtCOKdEdwRIIJX2ZkBsu3vZJLEQxiReg2QRpAK+ypx/1Rcus6oY=; Message-ID: <447672.74923.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q89Ujm0VM1mvsRlh7N9wUnfwHmMD_6FJpFWUX_53HL7apT_EUB3DhRgERyr7two2pDltzGjZVWgRdX8tNgnbW3EpRoYRgpQHrqUpcQ_tQGHcKwz617uFP9GAHAQseESO1WZ3PmkOy2NYFUWJ_zb3BWHL2NdG7LiBRqcfUH7x6IUrY7x9qEPv9e0khkNJjbSISnSDZBMVc7YCVGNApo96gVNc6zH73thw8tg8jmF7X3h5AaSSj2Q- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:40:58 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Reply-To: vsyevolod@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090321202549.64B533BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) OMG!!! that's exactly what happened!!! How did you know??? Stephen <<>> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 21 21:31:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08763BE89; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237671077; bh=1AjG/8SSoB37xnUJO0KlZ5kpbMIVcyZqYIsFBOWcPH0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gl6Iy6zHPGWw/3Ghpg3J/CwiQGoABQ4E1oE+1myXcojNPODKJFp0QhLxmXpj92r+BQgAroX+LBVFwybSSqrI7v2s1RSBIRoZ5gk2jHlOPco5GmXxdMnpyARZi7koVUAJLrZqKLfy0vjmksUOgL7+A/N+KWcPJOeHCn8s/X+doRk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fu9NqMmHCQED19Ftyxdp8BrduGVXO4SYtuQsFtLq1wCpBx3CdnWpeLbqTRVNY6P3MNy+R5Sk9fk24pEVrX9w/pBaULtJWTt3nupkLsonucI7ZjqB9BKfa6beWa2S/u9qpImYQokOI2G4P0QzwtJc7Ndm6FRRjbfMgPvqNJCPXCQ=; Message-ID: <929207.72766.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Xp_53tsVM1mTZoQLWCG3VvAUGlwbC9tVJBQo4ySDr8mnKxFSDkrzYxAEsKY.UB81_a3Ti6PpdNqPgP3bmphlaGqHUS2CNGH0Dz4Jlvp4K5zrpdbL3vpFQR7QLltrYBvQKs5Jow9WnYXJDokSxeoqDVZvnQSfmHaqLBKc_i.0svDja_0uGt6YWBWVN62fpBw0LGRqFZnMboq0MHzPHnaCx6xqgaeOzOpLpARo6yEcCqj.wFSA29noBiY- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <49C5432B.5080008@Verizon.net> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:31:17 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Alex and Nels Cline at Yoshi's in Oakland 3/26 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49C5432B.5080008@Verizon.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:31:18 +0000 (UTC) I think I'm going to get a ticket for the 8pm show. Any other loopers going? 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 22 08:51:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CE883BE86; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:51:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bQH3yQnXEhSQqzryfrnZRhJi0Sd72meCEkbuThf6jT8=; b=uaLUMdffeRo/wlcvG7MIiKh6NF72z3QUo19/BAtjw0stiT5ZadYZxiRfkVrZ1tyIix 4kIVJrbgvL6lQM+2DlBAoUSuUFjdYxoe3JMw6Ppyeg7Ja6OBvvbwJctMwpDOqjhZsmwC m8bXoJAn2J4g0CiXZVZ+dRSV232gI3wyt5+I8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; b=rtNC/it5s22XecQ5XbGh+WQ+/Xi+xc1HJKrn0cggGZv01q8/1ynwex94AJfk1oZNyn 4fCSAXwcxcKRlamupWjpNf3Q82LJdB6wThUIqBplLaIeYfnNYdTfUEXl6/XWdkMYDvIQ i40iB6ptXt7J8kfNsmcgU2RJMNngwzM1/wfB0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:51:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 07ef3aa6120a1224 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Loop Friendly Venues From: mark francombe To: loopers-delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7dff4d333d80465b141bc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 08:51:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7dff4d333d80465b141bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Inspired by the recent, and ongoing thread RE: East Coast Loop friendly venues... I was wondering if we should compile a list of Loop friendly Venues Worldwide. Now this does NOT need to be a thousand venues long. Just the Best... Easiest for an "out of towny" to get a gig venues. Now I realize that we all play somewhat different genres of looping music, so there may be SOME variants. See project rules BELOW I will compile this list and paste it somewhere permanent, maybe the Looping Forum. The project rules: EVERYONE on this list must submit at least ONE venue, from their home town. And this is the information that I need, In THIS exact order please. if you do NOT have the information write N/A or something. 1.VENUE NAME 2. URL 3. ADDRESS 4. CONTACT NAME + TELEPHONE (more info the better) 5. MUSIC STYLE (For this field please restrict to these 3 genres ONLY. 1) DANGEROUS 2) SAFE 3) ANY ("Dangerous" denotes experimental, noise, drone, extreme ambient etc . "Safe" denotes looped songs, more "musical", obviously acceptance of looping will still make it a cool venue, Im thinking more of the crowd that the place attracts than whether the venue allows it. And "Any, obviously denotes, a crowd open to anything. 6. INFO (Any extra info can be placed here. Capacity, PA spec, one line of chatty reminiscence) Thats it. I don't want to make it too hard for people, and at the very least the name of the venue, city and URL should be mentioned. Maybe this should be sent to me privately so as not to bog up the list too much? I will post results later. Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d7dff4d333d80465b141bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Inspired by the recent, and ongoing thread RE: East Coast Loop friendly ven= ues...

I was wondering if we should compile a list of Loop friendly = Venues Worldwide.
Now this does NOT need to be a thousand venues long. J= ust the Best... Easiest for an "out of towny" to get a gig venues= .

Now I realize that we all play somewhat different genres of looping mus= ic, so there may be SOME variants. See project rules BELOW

I will co= mpile this list and paste it somewhere permanent, maybe the Looping Forum.<= br>
The project rules:

EVERYONE on this list must submit at least ON= E venue, from their home town.=A0 And this is the information that I need, = In THIS exact order please.=A0 if you do NOT have the information write N/A= or something.

1.VENUE NAME
2. URL
3. ADDRESS
4. CONTACT NAME + TELEPHONE (m= ore info the better)
5. MUSIC STYLE (For this field please restrict to t= hese 3 genres ONLY. 1) DANGEROUS 2) SAFE 3) ANY
("Dangerous" d= enotes experimental, noise, drone, extreme ambient etc . "Safe" d= enotes looped songs, more "musical", obviously acceptance of loop= ing will still make it a cool venue, Im thinking more of the crowd that the= place attracts than whether the venue allows it. And "Any, obviously = denotes, a crowd open to anything.
6. INFO (Any extra info can be placed here. Capacity, PA spec, one line of = chatty reminiscence)

Thats it. I don't want to make it too hard = for people, and at the very least the name of the venue, city and URL shoul= d be mentioned.

Maybe this should be sent to me privately so as not to bog up the list = too much? I will post results later.

Mark
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/= user/markfrancombe
= http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabe= l.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--0016e6d7dff4d333d80465b141bc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 22 12:10:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD8FA3BE8A; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 26794 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:10:30 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> References: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00903210847i534fb366t2e539c01344e1158@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--486749790 Message-Id: <8B2C01ED-CE40-4387-B3AC-7ED0A52DA467@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:06:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=6.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, SARE_MONEYTERMS,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=no version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 69-64-73-97.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:10:30 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--486749790 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I just love how this seemingly endless thread is called "Virtual Repeater" in the subject header. Ha ha. :-) Best, -Rev. Fever On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:59 PM, mark francombe wrote: > That could be it Kevin, sure... but WHO IS IT??? Maybe there is > someone, who wants to make them an offer...? > > I like to think that what you say is true, that there is some > cunning people protecting their work for some greater plan that > they have up their sleeves, but you know, I dont think so... > > I bet that when Electrix folded, the clever people were running > about trying to get new jobs, servers were switched off, accounts > with hosting companies were terminated and in the furore the > bankruptcy lawyers collected all the laptops and shelves and tables > and chairs and printers and flogged the lot... paid off who ever > needed paying, took their cut, went home and moaned to the wife > about the "Bloody IT business"... Meanwhile.... in a long forgoton > filing cabinet...now in the basement of "Grabbit, Seezit, Sellitt > and son" there stirs some atoms lying upon the surface of a dusty > hard-drive... the atoms shift and move exitedly, electrons spinning > around nuclei with pride, knowing that one day, somehow they will > again be required to arrange themselves in a particular order, that > their master so once ordained, that they will again be manipulated > by enormous lifeforms into even greater and more exquisite > perfection than that of their predecessors. They live for the day > that may never come, that they will become ... Repeater OS. > 2.6 ! ! ! ! ! > > > > you never know... > > > > Mark > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando eye.org> wrote: > I think it has something to do with the pitch shifting algorithms. > They are part of a larger line of processors and the owners are kind > of proprietary about them and didn't want that code loose in the world > for anyone else to use. Something like that but its early, I could be > totally wrong making all of that up. > > Kevin > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Stephen, you can't say things like 1, 2, and 3, are way off > base. > > without offering some insight into the situation... were you > there? I > > respect that you do seem to know something about Peter Toms role > than I did > > (actually I was disapointed to hear that he has no stake - coming > back to > > this point****) It seems like that from the outside, which is > where we are, > > what Jeff described is EXACTLY how it looked.. I know noting of 3 > different > > owners (well I do - but it hardly excuses them from a customer > point of > > view) They have a very great product but its is a very poor > brand, or BECAME > > a very poor brand I should say. > > > > I can see that as a real lover of Repeater Stephen, you want to > applaud > > their achievements rather than trash them, and I agree. > > > > *** So who DOES have any stake inthe remains, who currently owns the > > software, either the Hardware OS... Or Any virtual Repeater...? > > > > Does ANYONE have the answer to this??? Who OWNS the software??? > It must be > > someone who wants to earn back a bit of cash surely? > > > > Mark > > > > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-2--486749790 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I just love how this seemingly endless thread is called "Virtual = Repeater" in the subject header. Ha ha. = =A0:-)

Best,

-Rev. = Fever

On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:59 PM, mark = francombe wrote:

That could be it Kevin, sure... but WHO IS IT??? Maybe = there is someone, who wants to make them an offer...?

I like to = think that what you say is true, that there is some cunning people = protecting their work for some greater plan that they have up their = sleeves, but you know, I dont think so...

I bet that when = Electrix folded, the clever people were running about trying to get new = jobs, servers were switched off, accounts with hosting companies were = terminated and in the furore the bankruptcy lawyers collected all the = laptops and shelves and tables and chairs and printers and flogged the = lot... paid off who ever needed paying, took their cut, went home and = moaned to the wife about the "Bloody IT business"... Meanwhile.... in a = long forgoton filing cabinet...now in the basement of "Grabbit, Seezit, = Sellitt and son" there stirs some atoms lying upon the surface of a = dusty hard-drive... the atoms shift and move exitedly, electrons = spinning around nuclei with pride, knowing that one day, somehow they = will again be required to arrange themselves in a particular order, that = their master so once ordained, that they will again be manipulated by = enormous lifeforms into even greater and more exquisite perfection than = that of their predecessors. They live for the day that may never come, = that they will become ... Repeater OS. 2.6 ! ! ! ! !
=


you never know...



Mark

On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Kevin = Cheli-Colando <kevin@minds-eye.org> = wrote:
I think it has something to do with the pitch shifting = algorithms.
They are part of a larger line of processors and the = owners are kind
of proprietary about them and didn't want that code = loose in the world
for anyone else to use. =A0Something like that = but its early, I could be
totally wrong making all of that up.
=
Kevin

On Sat, Mar 21, = 2009 at 12:31 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:
> Stephen, you can't say things like =A0 =A0 1, 2, and 3, are = way off base.
> without offering some insight into the situation... = were you there? I
> respect that you do seem to know something about = Peter Toms role than I did
> (actually I was disapointed to hear = that he has no stake - coming back to
> this point****) It seems = like that from the outside, which is where we are,
> what Jeff = described is EXACTLY how it looked.. I know noting of 3 different
> = owners (well I do - but it hardly excuses them from a customer point = of
> view) They have a very great product but its is a very poor = brand, or BECAME
> a very poor brand I should say.
>
> I can = see that as a real lover of Repeater Stephen, you want to applaud
> = their achievements rather than trash them, and I agree.
>
> *** = So who DOES have any stake inthe remains, who currently owns the
> = software, either the Hardware OS... Or Any virtual Repeater...?
= >
> Does ANYONE have the answer to this??? Who OWNS the software??? = It must be
> someone who wants to earn back a bit of cash = surely?
>
> Mark
>
>


--
Till now you seriously considered yourself to = be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which = is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi = (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: =A0http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09

=



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--001636c598f3230e4e0465b46592-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 22 16:27:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC073BE87; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nsGvd/rUk0dP6KuhvEnOwdQBc1s9LUKGE/rijIzePSA=; b=BbnTbQ5JR1K4V2h2Zt35TVA4ZOCLODs3gO0DpW4gIwO4o3RiaBarM8FCJ/VTtPJQnP ih4BnD3JEbpFzlUPY7w/tn1hfey1Zfa6zbBdpnX0SiMT8P/3arl4qD80RdZxzh208G2/ 5rweVMFHNbEXB0j9ms4GpHdLV+8E6AaT/MNSc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=lyaZCReqjFesl7IYPx9ZrGKl/xJ70jiFYQIeVZiCRKVn7mJDW20b7bZQELUEnOMvx1 eX66sE4f1i9Ht0sb1q+iiumpH26CH0HixeO/8OLAuKZjNgUMUjEIuHuIKNuuu4U/fOGe 1KrATppy7yB7NVvmXuMdkyIiIFyoPeSo31G7I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:27:06 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1ac88bda32aa41d5 Message-ID: <101191640903220927h282554b7p5ec4e826a8cefd3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Twisted System From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:27:07 +0000 (UTC) OK, there are still modifications being made, but I have a stable system involving Mainstage, Live and SooperLooper all glued together by the Jack audio router and MIDI patchbay sw. I could not get Mainstage to host any looper reliably, so I'm running SL standalone. First loop generates clocks, everyone follows. Mainstage fx are all synced to the loop, incoming guitar signals are totally MS-ified, while incoming GR-33 synth sounds are only processed insofar as they are partially routed through the synced-echo bus. A diagram of the setup: http://www.warrensirota.com/Looper/TwistedSystem.gif My "big idea", still somewhat nascent, is to have Live be a MIDI processor - interpret midi notes from my guitar synth, and use them to (a) generate arpeggiated sequences of notes synced to the loop clock, (b) maybe trigger some preset sequence elts, like a stream of 16th-notes intended basically for a high-hat-like sound, but which add'l processing of the midi stream (c) realtime midi looping, possibly with quantization. Right now, I'm only doing (a), and sending the midi notes back to mainstage for rendering. I have a modest example at http://www.ubetoo.com/Index.taf?_PageId=11216&Title=Jungle-Harpsichord&Artist=Warren-Sirota. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 22 16:54:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A5063BE8A; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=afhtCmQEemG7tdvsK20MYFKs52c9u7H1F2a6InoMIT4=; b=csa6fL2n7mHjasAeZkYLrZOFudQLoReompgK1S3SDwseyPzPBVavdUrQSirKzocZY5 c07LSPLtLhGAhfwj8uihblKL3gzfjGXDxG5O31zin/cP/ynRQJUCI52wLjlY4JWaN0BN PBWCnpUmgKS37wXzcD8lEmxT3ewrcGZsiGUm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oSanHI766bbehA6M+4r9PymcAJzMItiB9wOL+EMGkn3Dr80SV5yShGSzc1tA8z6VIp DSnmZwz/30vMOIcQCoYIId1b5C7KKONo3KDKHtyBmQs6P+MYGEh2jCLEklt1NLIQnSff 3yo5B9vhUrCJOe5A7YFWUvvIQ97WQDO5LbgeY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:54:40 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903220954y23ca94feq555dfb37fba78bbd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Twisted System From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <70IECD.A.vMG.S1mxJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:54:42 +0000 (UTC) > http://www.warrensirota.com/Looper/TwistedSystem.gif What software did you use to paint that Twisted System, Warren? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 22 17:26:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B25DE3BE8B; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:26:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qG5Ylh8cPhD8tKzkWNgDO17hCR9KlYWb856grvDcSwk=; b=p+y6nRGH5WdGCWYWOx/xcojVhTrqWj08oNi6mvz0vsoNHpmB9ZeywW+42yvIMksaU/ SYG5o6/03wZF4qjCGSphezK7njcXvjVfKjqr+YBwTr+TXKfAKIgWCCmo1XPEncNLudQH LC1J/vCjoRalrOaa18sGYImTB1pbbZY2r7JcY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=oXlK/7yNLVp2IThnkFUR+4xhjCuJ67J7bvVrZMbA/clU9W4nH0vq6AUfH+UJbpqtpS f4RS5cdcAIppmSKebzPoxhpP0tX+NTO3LShk9wojBAIn0vBt0xR8aNeeO/TsP8E70vzp Tn31Y/x+d5SngGNqUh0v2VkQpneSSTQfFSQSE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903220954y23ca94feq555dfb37fba78bbd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903220954y23ca94feq555dfb37fba78bbd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:26:47 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 24e078380ebc0875 Message-ID: <101191640903221026p2f71df70re0fc58d19eb50298@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Twisted System From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:26:48 +0000 (UTC) that was visio On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> http://www.warrensirota.com/Looper/TwistedSystem.gif > > What software did you use to paint that Twisted System, Warren? > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer > > --=20 Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From fabiana.ferraro@libero.it Sun Mar 22 18:42:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 732 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:42:18 UTC Received: from mail.pendower.com (mail.pendower.com [220.246.30.180]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FA13BE78; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([80.229.253.105]) by mail.pendower.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:42:45 +0800 Reply-To: From: "Fabiana Ferraro" Subject: Re: Messaggio dell'utente sull'oggetto #230154264534 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:19:56 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2009 18:42:45.0921 (UTC) FILETIME=[FDEB0910:01C9AB1D] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Ciao,
La prego cortesemente di farmi sapere se il mio ordine è stato spedito. Mi chiedo su questo ordine:
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Ho bisogno di un massimo di 3 giorni, ho già pagato per lui. Ti è consegnare l'oggetto?
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Grazie, Fabiana From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 22 21:02:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D7FE3BE80; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237755738; bh=cMbqLK3tVHrVlBsRfX9OLyLD6n3q1WPCPJ4BOETK4Mc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Bl4Q1razdnVTMuqid/Te33lN1x4H1n1Vlk97cJR0Aaz8z11C4BYs8b32yfjfXfVnm+PewytvYpyfVY4mOuYgzJPYdYlGPHQfm+U0H1urDTJXFCbS5UcDptZjannAHxxmjLxqHVfyQbGbcBLI2CpLrpUWcpaivEpalK7svF+LcMQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=5jdr01GbwBhEWnlPEFiPa0M6vCXr16aPQZbTH3RUvvdw1arRjI0EVQid8+/nHtikwV5GtBMAMrdXUUZWcIV7GwtEa45Tydib+dPWgFKtlp0T1oAOukb/uojhlXvr5SSLjuQWiTB+7yub8vv/57hIBplxEVh3Asb5VUNuLDOBc3I=; Message-ID: <494965.10751.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5v4eXIAVM1mre1qUovfpEfkTlp1KneOfT6ShjebZAyn2gL14mCwlEXy0iwHh4uFU1xlItWUEUMLGPpstw7oVW.yoWxTh0VB.p0.lnFXjnDHTX9NSGchmn_Bpu2hOAaBFV52TUwGrlXnXHYJMND6.amtAxphWyAnfLmDTHg3jqXur6Gtjg6foBiQBwEw45FEb.dj9xX.qeMAsDVtP3inuZvmpupLLmjumoYfjlps- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Twisted System To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Twisted system,huh? hmmm...=0Abut what ever happened to twisted sister?=0A= =0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJ-jsgousZcA=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.c= om/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, 3/22/09, Warren Sirota wrote:=0A=0A> From: Warren Sirota =0A> Subj= ect: Re: Twisted System=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Dat= e: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 10:26 AM=0A> that was visio=0A> =0A> On Sun, Mar= 22, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Rainer Straschill=0A> =0A>= wrote:=0A> >> http://www.warrensirota.com/Looper/TwistedSystem.gif=0A> >= =0A> > What software did you use to paint that Twisted=0A> System, Warren?= =0A> >=0A> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> = Warren=0A> http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=3D6679=0A> http://www= .warrensirota.com=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 22 21:47:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA7D63BE8A; Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237758464; bh=Iu4qHxm36z6f3RKkMj+dX0vDxKakg9k2sHmmmdL/2sg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gw69TMj5Ele2iLCgxvw6dh3UdL0Bu+GW7EMg2OKc6SK9AcKZ/nMBs1YQvSMZOiRTNYygSDie7y765/qls+3hvKgpVZ5Tcv7UDW3D6JISPBKvlS/k5HIiqHFpoJuFDR5Ae4Wyv2Tup4bXDScd3KCWiPnp8BCke5h1zkq1FeY55GE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M7DZb1oL2B+MOKnnYvrvm75Dnyca3mtOjN/Iu9xulOTV4TpYG+dzyH6b2zCO6/DDWfzsIz1dCafOK982kVph1+EXHj+5IiVpWpvi3apKuW+hz9fQNhSUQULDKLk28r7iNi3UOR73chK4956X7UXZrI1bfqWLUADvbmO6cAxIVqY=; Message-ID: <805518.44059.qm@web33107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cJksaRMVM1lzDgoqiVVM3dBciSVndfsp_hlvCRpi8KT9A3z_ditl3KixPSRhSoqZOWlRpvNfYfFmIGiHQuRgsyz6Cvi9xG9oMHkQLXDvSILcjtjffB9esCmep9syUabJd6_R.w0ncxpRAGaC8nkccqOsqNhrYQP5R_hNIO4NaF8tTqxaeVn79WT0uv01JQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:47:44 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: OT: adrenalinn users help? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1852119607-1237758464=:44059" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:47:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-1852119607-1237758464=:44059 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just curious if anyone uses an adrenalinn in their setup? i just got an adrenalinn II, and have tried it in my setup, and i've not be= en very happy w/ the sound. i don't know, maybe i have too high expectations for it. over all i have been unimpressed w/ the amp models compared to my digitech = rp150 and zoom g2 setup. and the effects i also think aren't that great-my filters on my behringer t= weakalizer are better. my setup:=A0=A0zoom g2--digitech rp150--DAED DS1--boss dd7--tweakalizer--bo= ss rc20--lexicon mx200-- =A0 i've had the best-so-so results at the beginning of my chain, and between t= he g2 & rp150. i had the worst results after the rp150... just curious how others used it???? s---=0A=0A=0A --0-1852119607-1237758464=:44059 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
State of the Art Shithole
just curious if anyone uses an adrenalin= n in their setup?
i just got an adrenalinn II, and have tried it in my setup, and i've n= ot been very happy w/ the sound.
i don't know, maybe i have too high expectations for it.
over all i have been unimpressed w/ the amp models compared to my digi= tech rp150 and zoom g2 setup.
and the effects i also think aren't that great-my filters on my behrin= ger tweakalizer are better.
my setup:  zoom g2--digitech rp150--DAED DS1--boss dd7--twea= kalizer--boss rc20--lexicon mx200--
 
i've had the best-so-so results at the beginning of my chain, and betw= een the g2 & rp150.
i had the worst results after the rp150...
just curious how others used it????
s---

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Please visit the url and add YOUR favorite looping venues, worldwide. http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 cheers Mark --001485f870607e14f40465bdd5bd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure if this posted correctly, anyway I have put this form on my site, = so all can add venues at anytime... Please visit the url and add YOUR favor= ite looping venues, worldwide.

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cheers

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 00:42:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 896A43BE87; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:42:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 539 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:42:42 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=j7wOEgHFF1tGDOQg4HkaN1nlsJyU/5P/iq+J3KZa4lo6ffc5WVFdMF6oWjiA9QOf; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <23511932.1237768422662.JavaMail.root@mswamui-andean.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:33:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Howell Reply-To: Todd Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: adrenalinn users help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 303a3acd514d41c871639b933de7ae6f7e972de0d01da940d121e9369ef814f8c7b41ba88f434bad350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.24 Resent-Message-ID: <6d4vw.A.LRF.DstxJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:42:43 +0000 (UTC)

Scott,

Using Adrenalinn II in my current principal rig. I use it just before my amp (Vox AC 30 CC1). I don't tend to use the amp models that much, being that I am rather fond of my current amp. When I do, it is usually an over driven AC 30 or a Marshall Plexi. I find that making sure to engage the complete bypass and care fully tweaking the volume and effect levels, you can remove the vast majority of the (for lack of a better term) digital-ness. There tends to be this weird artifact when I don't really pay attention the the previous and play at any volume. I am not a super programming cat. Hence, I am sure there are packet of more experienced types who will probably have more in-depth answers for you. I find as long as my power is relatively clean (remarkably everything in front of it is run with a Visual sound OneSpot).

As far as filtering options, you might want to look at the Adrenalinn III up-grade ($99.00 on Roger Linn Site). Supposedly more filtering options, the amp models sound good on the clips and there are more of them. I am not familiar with the Behringer bit if kit to which you refer. I have no real way to compare. 

Tell me if this is at all helpful. I may not get back to with blinding haste as I am neck deep in dolls and dirty nappies.

Take Care,

Todd Howell

-----Original Message-----
From: scott hansen
Sent: Mar 22, 2009 5:47 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: adrenalinn users help?

just curious if anyone uses an adrenalinn in their setup?
i just got an adrenalinn II, and have tried it in my setup, and i've not been very happy w/ the sound.
i don't know, maybe i have too high expectations for it.
over all i have been unimpressed w/ the amp models compared to my digitech rp150 and zoom g2 setup.
and the effects i also think aren't that great-my filters on my behringer tweakalizer are better.
my setup:  zoom g2--digitech rp150--DAED DS1--boss dd7--tweakalizer--boss rc20--lexicon mx200--
 
i've had the best-so-so results at the beginning of my chain, and between the g2 & rp150.
i had the worst results after the rp150...
just curious how others used it????
s---

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 01:36:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFFD03BE8B; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 421 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:36:04 UTC Message-Id: <5D146538-5C47-4A96-AE14-4AE549613B8D@ricoloop.com> From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--380979667 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Loop Friendly Venues Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 02:29:01 +0100 References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]001279 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:36:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--380979667 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey Mark, Finally i signed up for LD maillist :) My name is Rico and i am a looper as well.. and guess what? i am in Oslo right now doin school concerts!!! and i was so happy to see your venue list anbout places in Oslo.. i never go out much here as i am enjoying the time off from touring and lots of people.. anyway, it woukld be nice to meet you and exchange some :) please write me back or call me: 00491777395673 happy to hear from you! love and music, ricO: p.s. check me out: www.ricoloop.com On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:51 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Not sure if this posted correctly, anyway I have put this form on my > site, so all can add venues at anytime... Please visit the url and > add YOUR favorite looping venues, worldwide. > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 > > cheers > > Mark --Apple-Mail-2--380979667 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey = Mark,

Finally i signed up for LD maillist = :)
My name is Rico and i am a looper as well.. and guess what? = i am in Oslo right now doin school concerts!!!
and i was so = happy to see your venue list anbout places in Oslo.. i never go out much = here as i am enjoying
the time off from touring and lots of = people..

anyway, it woukld be nice to meet you = and exchange some :)
please write me back or call me: = 00491777395673

happy to hear from = you!

love and = music,

ricO:

p.s. = check me out: www.ricoloop.com

=

On Mar 23, 2009, at 12:51 AM, mark francombe = wrote:

Not sure if this posted correctly, anyway I have put this = form on my site, so all can add venues at anytime... Please visit the = url and add YOUR favorite looping venues, worldwide.

http://www.= markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525
=
cheers

Mark

= --Apple-Mail-2--380979667-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 03:58:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 517F93BE89; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:58:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X2SHTmed/6tsbavh+UvpUWHB0TC34tOxNG2cHI36Yt4=; b=fAmwpVMpfLSwYiEUrLQNzjktPBKezKr0Pr/+BiXCA0Qs0CWcosz+j2haUkxFf88QVB Ju5KDlqlO1zw/M6YZI9rdNJSqJb7V40ogZinuw3AjvWpH4iF5AvfIsoBOp+pA8GhZ6cG NIFpmZV92hXGTUiecSyFh6J8Zs9wth9xE5ANA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WHsBcquS5clS9xsipOZVlnzGwIanr3ZqsdDgu69bDnfmrXusK5NYzHZpbNamI36VxO lXBrpFEb7bbDDhPvlPjH1g7sxDxude3IO32NPVxf4rcg2E7YhjgGs50C702K5T9yGFCn csYf3jw9lCZxvPOnXgQ2WneiZSEGNoJbOTLxs= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8B2C01ED-CE40-4387-B3AC-7ED0A52DA467@ubergadget.com> References: <20090319081320.37FDA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> <190022.28979.qm@web52801.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0903210031n3b8dcfb0sd7f8792f927a3f4b@mail.gmail.com> <37f071c00903210847i534fb366t2e539c01344e1158@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903211259o484e64dcy8f62b3b46efe920@mail.gmail.com> <8B2C01ED-CE40-4387-B3AC-7ED0A52DA467@ubergadget.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:58:43 -0700 Message-ID: <37f071c00903222058o3e0942b7g71d41f1f43cad2df@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Repeater From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:58:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 1:40 PM, S V G wrote: > > > OMG!!! that's exactly what happened!!! How did you know??? > We went through this whole thing the FIRST time Electrix went under. I recall IVL had something to do with Karaoke machines at the time. I thought that was a sad fate for the Repeater's lovely pitch shifting. Kevin Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 11:49:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4122E3BE82; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237808965; bh=s60K4mfNKquedTevdYRXu3SMvNRbbf6mYUPJuUf0Smo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Nt0knN5oQoUkm/NKIedmaUqpJHlpYtYcR7yhdDqvwOjbYpJ8vKzhpFPRWGPhT1cckJBPZ09VR5vl5QmfSr5nnVS9PmRpTbAZcc/2jPX9rJ2rh4/ph6QDXyJNKzY50zP4unGOGuoRylDzxZ7GyUAeJoCauhIejdeCP68jfZRuyG4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=byuKu1Vx7/yubL2EIPUWAtJtPwUtDGoTOMMy7io91p5qe+9uybfHv3OA2aqViKL4TZsxZgOKRlRoeGeHcWljwVqqi83snWAwBw/l1LvwbGbwr0ag0dgujZMcGMaEE4vLQNecreTNcnHGCdZhphefs47Gg2TsXgx2ubTCvLcyGJg=; Message-ID: <522235.66660.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VddVMfkVM1k.wKID9J98zsAFwgsKTWhdwN6UIICAcpeGDlmF_kik9.1Ke_4OQhdltJKILRNDB_j8Qgp4TMPyLD5ufLiEZn3s4XVl4sgsowc1yVTWC414jljd2nANL2hVY54SgSp8Bw.H5rFtfoAGpV8nX26K9VtbgkxsBFfEQNgIG4_cyy8R8KhZlBdHDVW4Gj3UBurWYu4DNuqfMICMQPc9jsAZ_stEo9j4h.A- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:49:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: adrenalinn users help? To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi Scott,=0Ai ve been using the adrenalinn in my rig recently in fact i use= d it in my last looping gig.=0AI find it a very nice box actually i have th= e Adrenalinn III and the amp simlutations are really good,(i think you do h= ave to upgrade)but i am most impressed by the quality of the time sync filt= ers i have not found anything like it in any other EFX proccessor!=0Aalso t= he drum sounds and grooves are really nice for doing groovy stuff every onc= e in a while,using it it to test midi sync stuff,as a simple drum machine o= r to even teach;-)=0Aso i think for the money is a good box,plus Roger keep= s updating it.=0AIve been testing it with the Eventide timefator trying to = midi sync both,at first i jumped for joy when i synced the TF loop to the a= drenalinn drum groove but after letting it run for a while they became unsy= nced;-((( however,the dealys do sync to the Adrenalinn nicely.=0AIf the loo= per on the TF would sync to the adrenalinn it would be an awesome combinati= on!!! you could just take this two boxes which are about the same size and = do amazing stuff with it!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On= Sun, 3/22/09, Todd Howell wrote:=0A=0A> From: To= dd Howell =0A> Subject: Re: OT: adrenalinn users h= elp?=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, March 22= , 2009, 5:33 PM=0A> =0A> #yiv1989593617 {font-family:Geneva, Arial,=0A> Hel= vetica,=0A> sans-serif;font-size:9pt;background-color:#ffffff;color:black;}= =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Scott,=0A> Using Adrenalinn II in my current principa= l rig. I use=0A> it just before my amp (Vox AC 30 CC1). I don't tend to=0A>= use the amp models that much, being that I am rather fond of=0A> my curren= t amp. When I do, it is usually an over driven AC=0A> 30 or a Marshall Plex= i. I find that making sure to engage=0A> the complete bypass and care fully= tweaking the volume and=0A> effect levels, you can remove the vast majorit= y of the (for=0A> lack of a better term) digital-ness. There tends to be th= is=0A> weird artifact when I don't really pay attention the the=0A> previou= s and play at any volume. I am not a super=0A> programming cat. Hence, I am= sure there are=A0packet of=0A> more experienced types who will probably ha= ve more in-depth=0A> answers for you. I find as long as my power is relativ= ely=0A> clean (remarkably everything in front of it is run with a=0A> Visua= l sound OneSpot). =0A> As far as filtering options, you might want to look = at=0A> the Adrenalinn III up-grade ($99.00 on Roger Linn Site).=0A> Suppose= dly more filtering options, the amp models sound good=0A> on the clips and = there are more of them. I am not familiar=0A> with the Behringer bit if kit= to which you refer. I have no=0A> real way to compare.=A0 =0A> Tell me if = this is at all helpful. I may not get back to=0A> with blinding haste as I = am neck deep in dolls and dirty=0A> nappies.=0A> Take Care,=0A> Todd Howell= =0A> =0A> =0A> -----Original Message----- =0A> From: scott hansen =0A> Sent= : Mar 22, 2009 5:47 PM =0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =0A> Su= bject: OT: adrenalinn users help? =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> just c= urious if anyone uses an adrenalinn in their=0A> setup?=0A> i just got an a= drenalinn II, and have tried it in my=0A> setup, and i've not been very hap= py w/ the sound.=0A> i don't know, maybe i have too high expectations=0A> f= or it.=0A> over all i have been unimpressed w/ the amp models=0A> compared = to my digitech rp150 and zoom g2 setup.=0A> and the effects i also think ar= en't that great-my=0A> filters on my behringer tweakalizer are better.=0A> = my setup:=A0=A0zoom g2--digitech rp150--DAED=0A> DS1--boss dd7--tweakalizer= --boss rc20--lexicon mx200--=0A> =A0=0A> i've had the best-so-so results at= the beginning=0A> of my chain, and between the g2 & rp150.=0A> i had the w= orst results after the rp150...=0A> just curious how others used it????=0A>= s---=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 14:19:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAC433BE80; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237817989; bh=qo/WgjMj/98pVKZnHi6GpLMu/OC5ArnFCMNkkZEFJx4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gD+gf29arWTB87NQtjz1SZ+AYPo5zrzyM6d6fnFX3vzHicBCm9fpyQcqadcS3zWz2azRlN1bMcr+49dJqb+UoKIcJV1OkXQf2GEIz+Q3GlIt1Q0mek9y5wGihaubPkv/pfSNUI5SYNkBvyT0MwcOSS7vZ50y8qDF1+s293pT9OQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0Nv8M/iXStfSJZneeb8Bj+3uOSKyaaPJ5g5RBPZvjhiQQgKgTs8Sst2S/T6gG7rdWbE7L5+dTz6N3n5Opb1yKv4YWz4EiAlLpRGu5j+b8+PUbx7jRsZ6T+4lPGfqdqdYzpHUZWoBmjmlt3BnMAAuyjAwOby8YIr+YDMPmgWtip4=; Message-ID: <893865.66637.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2hmHJrIVM1kn3epI9R236lO0Se9KggDeFArU6SYDiDguVmKGxGbyOuTB2cioIrU7u.N1yo8Ql1giIwRXw3gVlVM6tzr1HXnsjOG0HuwBNXGsdVis6MXch3nMPlc0ez_ESgF2UEaaE8hS4q2MIqCc_wTzdQVs7zROnXZltNpydg6_jvNgnnppQQxAzKEkOjU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:19:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: new pedal in town To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:19:50 +0000 (UTC) http://ftp.eventide.com/ljdl/www/PitchFactorDemo.html www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 14:22:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 831CA3BE8C; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 996 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:22:21 UTC Message-Id: <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--335577330 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: introducing myself :) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:05:43 +0100 References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]001279 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:22:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--335577330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi Loopers around the world! My name is Rico. I come from Berlin and live on Ibiza. I am a passionate looper and i am happy there is such a strong community out there! Thanks to all for making that possible! :) Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and i am surprised how much it's been growing! I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some where kinda rude!!!) i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! Actually it was a mistake by me cause i knew there where other Loop mashines out there with much more diverse functions.. :) well, thanks for your understanding! by the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked :) I am happy to join you now and i will get more into it as i have more time now to share and dwell on our creativity! Love and music and i am happy to hear from you :) Rico Loop p.s. who ever feels like... check me out on www.ricoloop.com _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _* _ * _ http:// www.ricoloop.com one.man.jam rico@ricoloop.com ---------------------------- --Apple-Mail-5--335577330 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Loopers around the = world!

My name is Rico. I come from Berlin and = live on Ibiza.
I am a passionate looper and i am happy there = is such a strong community out there!

Thanks to = all for making that possible!  :)

Finally = i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss.  and i am = surprised how much it's been growing!
I was surprised finding = a lot of post's about me (actually some where kinda = rude!!!) 
i want to apologize for my demo wich i = gave at the summer NAMM 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and = mentioned that
the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the = world!  Actually it was a mistake by me cause i knew there where = other
Loop mashines out there with much more diverse = functions..  :) well, thanks for your understanding!
by = the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked = :)

I am happy to join you now and i will get = more into it as i have more time now to share and dwell on our = creativity!

Love and music and i am happy to = hear from you :)

Rico Loop =  

p.s. who ever feels like... check me out = on www.ricoloop.com

=

_ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ *  _ * _ * _* _ * = _
        http:// www.ricoloop.com=
     =                =  one.man.jam

----------------------------


 =

= --Apple-Mail-5--335577330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 15:11:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99C873BE79; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=9KTx3pf4nB7TpWbzEbIPaXsg/Oejntllh/jsjEY7/ZI=; b=dg3f9JBgzkeOog9y8oDCgLGWnr1RYDEsbyArUbgNNqeVIPHV7Zb0IDtmPHn/XuSUK5 YpPvBIlgKeA2jJtOK8j+bMe7+sneboCLFDVSmj/xu2jmEivivg5rEWVTdVumESzMGQ9I Kijo4pp0eHVl3fOdrhK1AAd2bln5HAkknsZig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JmhJ40Zw+LkESoWbCLQQsrWrPJJNgCZlN2UjA8kkR8Sl0gPpfY8lNUIx6Sy0F13PIn yhGSv9yYILTDJ4vDMwBWtk2TKrtJxNfkFuetZ57hLq4BdWSxlRmOCeKKgSNI2SfZlETG LCy7UJ+75NRz/ppJUyGWj7Bd90VnSlLMm0x8g= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:11:16 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903230811o56191f17rc82ed3952d75c07f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363108cd90f1ae0465caad6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:11:19 +0000 (UTC) --0016363108cd90f1ae0465caad6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rico welcome, think you will find it a supportive, informed community, I certainly have and do. Jim Goodin www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, rico diessner wrote: > > Hi Loopers around the world! > > My name is Rico. I come from Berlin and live on Ibiza. > I am a passionate looper and i am happy there is such a strong community > out there! > > Thanks to all for making that possible! :) > > Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and i am > surprised how much it's been growing! > I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some where kinda > rude!!!) > i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM 2006..where > i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that > the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! Actually it was a > mistake by me cause i knew there where other > Loop mashines out there with much more diverse functions.. :) well, thanks > for your understanding! > by the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked :) > > I am happy to join you now and i will get more into it as i have more time > now to share and dwell on our creativity! > > Love and music and i am happy to hear from you :) > > Rico Loop > > p.s. who ever feels like... check me out on www.ricoloop.com > > > _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _* _ * _ > http:// www.ricoloop.com > one.man.jam > > rico@ricoloop.com > ---------------------------- > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --0016363108cd90f1ae0465caad6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rico welcome, think you will find it a supportive, informed community,= I certainly have and do.
=A0
Jim Goodin


=A0
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, rico diessner = <rico@ricoloop.co= m> wrote:

Hi Loopers around the world!

My name is Rico. I come from Berlin and live on Ibiza.
I am a passionate looper and i am happy there is such a strong communi= ty out there!

Thanks to all for making that possible! =A0:)

Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. =A0an= d i am surprised how much it's been growing!
I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some wh= ere kinda rude!!!)=A0
i want to apologize=A0for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM 2006.= .where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that
the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! =A0Actually it was= a mistake by me cause i knew there where other
Loop mashines out there with much more diverse functions.. =A0:) well,= thanks for your understanding!
by the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked :)

I am happy to join you now and i will get more into it as i have more = time now to share and dwell on our creativity!

Love and music and i am happy to hear from you :)

Rico Loop =A0

p.s. who ever feels like... check me out on www.ricoloop.com


_ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ *=A0=A0_ * _ * _* _ * _
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0http://=A0www.ricoloop.= com
=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 = =A0one.man.jam
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The Aco= ustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =A0- http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
--0016363108cd90f1ae0465caad6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 16:21:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64F0A3BE82; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:21:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3614 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:21:29 UTC Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:20:52 -0500 (CDT) From: jcshirke@verizon.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> Subject: Re: new pedal in town MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [147.53.101.224] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:21:29 +0000 (UTC)
Mine arrives today. ;)

Jeff

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 16:42:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F22663BE81; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49C7BE14.2050202@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:51:32 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> In-Reply-To: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:42:45 +0000 (UTC) jcshirke@verizon.net wrote: > > Mine arrives today. ;) > > Jeff Great! Review, please. The PitchFactor was announced a little while ago, but the online demo is a Bit short of features.. It'll be interesting to see/hear what they put into it, especially if they listened to submittted suggestions ;) I really wanted it to have a small range of (preferable 4-tap) echoes for more ambient spaces, along with harmonizing and pitch transpose. -- rgds, van Sinn From at.ak76@msn.com Mon Mar 23 17:33:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 302 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:33:43 UTC Received: from bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.175]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8AE3BE72; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY109-W41 ([64.4.19.141]) by bay0-omc2-s39.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:28:34 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6e4f7a1a-17d4-4dd0-b3ea-a5b901fa3731_" X-Originating-IP: [41.203.224.119] Reply-To: From: TAMA AKU Subject: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND REPLY Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:28:34 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2009 17:28:34.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB504500:01C9ABDC] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_6e4f7a1a-17d4-4dd0-b3ea-a5b901fa3731_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Desk of Mr Tama Aku=20 Audit/Remittance Department of=20 African Development Bank (ADB)=20 Auagadougou Burkina Faso=20 phone: 00226-71 19 57=20 =20 =20 Dear Friend=2C=20 =20 (CONFIDENTIAL)=20 =20 I know that this email will be a big surprise to you=2C but i want you to c= alm down and read very carefully.=20 =20 I have a business which will be beneficial to both of us. the amount of mon= ey involved is ($5=2C700:000:00 five million seven hundred thousand us doll= ars) which i want to transfer out of the country to your bank account=2C al= l to my financial benefit and yours too. and also to take my wife abroad fo= r treatment of liver damage.=20 =20 This money is owned by a man called JIN SUN=2C a business commercialist in = west-african regions. he has been dead since four years ago (2005) and sinc= e then=2C no claim has been placed on his bank account balance.=20 =20 I want to transfer this money out of the country but such fund cannot be tr= ansferred without a next of kin attached to the fund. the fund could be tra= nsferred in these way=3B you shall present yourself as a business associate= to the deceased person[JIN SUN) as details shall be that you are the care-= taker business associate to mr. jin sun and his properties.=20 =20 I shall make available to you materials and information with which a succes= sful claim shall be placed on the fund. i shall also be your guidiance and = instructor throughout the duration of this transaction so as to ensure a sw= ift and sure transfer of the fund to your bank account.=20 =20 As to your benefits=2Cyou shall be entitled to 40% of this fund for your co= -operation in this transaction while 5% will be set aside for expences incu= red during the course of this transaction.=20 =20 So if you are interested=2C send a reply to me immediately and in your repl= y please include your [private phone and your fax numbers] urgency has to b= e implied and this business must strictly be a deal between both of us.=20 Waiting for your urgent response so that i can move ahead and give you the = indept details concerning this transaction and also the steps to take for a= smooth transfer of the fund into your bank account. =20 Best Regards=2C=20 Mr.TAMA AKU =20 --_6e4f7a1a-17d4-4dd0-b3ea-a5b901fa3731_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Desk of Mr Tama Aku
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= --_6e4f7a1a-17d4-4dd0-b3ea-a5b901fa3731_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 17:33:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 918833BE86; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:33:50 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c9abdd$87987ed0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acmr3Yb7WCorCNSTRfm9pyqMSTh2/g== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:33:53 +0000 (UTC) I've already included an audio-2-midi vst in some of my setups, but what I'm dreaming of in the moment is a VSTi (say, a drum machine) that takes your audio (not your midi), tries to find rhythmic elements, and creates a groove based on them. Something like a virtual drummer. Rayzoon has a "virtual drummer" VSTi but it needs a midi pulse for speed. I want something that only reacts to audio patterns. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 17:38:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E1373BE82; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=C8fC3byEomryfgCsjC+cTtBtFO/g6BNVYxWcHk9vCTk=; b=bPgWKglCMqm77zz0lW4943T13To7qBd7CQBnAW43jahx0v1NyWn20vdtUdYPLibb55 rRdaH4nQq7DSUcB+a2SAUnswApEA8pyaGYsvo4VdCFMvJkloS4AzAxoen+Q5/VIcly8k hpyEVppkTVVudNmQQztNiH7OAyDxV/Qvvi7HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=tfALA3fjlKcPuHfmtqt/65QlQkBTDclCkYGTMwLTInvXBaWKWcaOvnqqh/LVLKd5iR 1ntb5Sy+0UsWSJLJPMSesrgQlwZZzgpYd/A7cinQ3s/+YMaq/x8EpbE2uqPHI/p8armX mCsjJR1CllgQtQOkJea8x99N3mHTUO8WFkzbs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:38:53 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: introducing myself :) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:38:54 +0000 (UTC) > Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and i am surprised how much it's been growing! On which figures is your statement of "how mucht it's been growing" based? Number of messages or bytes of posts in summa? Averaged on which time span? Absolute values or relation to average growth of internet use/internet community use in the relevant time span? It may be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited posts which you percieved as being rude. Rainer (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 18:51:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 543B73BE81; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v7-2SKxXB8xifOFyhV4A:9 a=K75XYaTvmXmNNsgPgUsA:7 a=32A5r7-yPFSiUZdIEREsID-RakgA:4 a=QJAqVYndk0IA:10 Message-ID: <49C7DA17.3060503@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:51:03 +0100 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: introducing myself :) References: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2lf3JD.A.QyD.co9xJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Rainer are you friendly here ? is this a welcome ? bad digestion ? Claude Rainer Straschill a =E9crit : >> Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and = i am surprised how much it's been growing! >=20 > On which figures is your statement of "how mucht it's been growing" > based? Number of messages or bytes of posts in summa? Averaged on > which time span? Absolute values or relation to average growth of > internet use/internet community use in the relevant time span? >=20 > It may be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited posts > which you percieved as being rude. >=20 > Rainer >=20 > (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.) >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 18:57:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2CC23BE7F; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2NsMXxraWRAbEUcG8Sv9Nk5rPMkv6Pl5bB6K3UbuSxA=; b=bKeXd246hlem2zDx3QYgTtJg8MQXNC7RwvaEn3Oi03o0flyz9r9IFjWUrM/bGMj0AL HJorWPYBqAEVJpPxOCT8eYZ+sgkd2om4eHLJQj/1MUUdUCrj4VTmIVQ70i0TWFX+IdyV JBtCkxq84olT4VqTMUhNZFQmp7AITAPQfSuLY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=FQN/PXjQ1MbYCqv1HH4XiyBCyujGMS8u35Pz31e+ulQiwuU+fsXsJrdNLanLf3EUIw ozqVeB+bQxWgVC+CNTYg3apc9r40cRii8W25tE9tgeR4GNy0yF27BE4/O+2vULja6WKg 8dkunWpIjU8ycPFldVaYkbfwatkhU7WNSWKYY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49C7DA17.3060503@vtx.ch> References: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> <49C7DA17.3060503@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:57:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f0410c67b3660465cdd781 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:57:44 +0000 (UTC) --001485f0410c67b3660465cdd781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.) Hey brother Were do you go to check out your stats? This is of some interest to me. Byron On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Claude Voit wrote: > Rainer > are you friendly here ? > is this a welcome ? > bad digestion ? > > Claude > > Rainer Straschill a =E9crit : > > Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and i >>> am surprised how much it's been growing! >>> >> >> On which figures is your statement of "how mucht it's been growing" >> based? Number of messages or bytes of posts in summa? Averaged on >> which time span? Absolute values or relation to average growth of >> internet use/internet community use in the relevant time span? >> >> It may be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited posts >> which you percieved as being rude. >> >> Rainer >> >> (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.) >> >> >> >> > --001485f0410c67b3660465cdd781 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
(in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.)
=A0
Hey brother
=A0
Were do you go to check out your stats? This is of some interest to me= .
=A0
Byron

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:
Rainer
are you friendly here = ?
is this a welcome ?
bad digestion ?

Claude

Rainer Str= aschill a =E9crit :=20

Finally i signed up for the mail= ing list.. after 3 years..tssss. =A0and i am surprised how much it's be= en growing!

On which figures is your statement of "how mucht it&#= 39;s been growing"
based? Number of messages or bytes of posts in s= umma? Averaged on
which time span? Absolute values or relation to averag= e growth of
internet use/internet community use in the relevant time span?

It ma= y be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited posts
which = you percieved as being rude.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer
(in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.)





--001485f0410c67b3660465cdd781-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 18:58:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF3B33BE90; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5BrxU/xS2FGibPDU/HELffnH101332k5LG5CJaWraq4=; b=kwQztdlPDXk08SIKTHGJeaD4f/WDWERWDnuJ+11OlCSlnETzKtU/L5M+zEZ4VmiXWO cB/AqWdolcEtDUOaxzjmcmPTa3jyb2GoeP4D0JF9wvGrlyqegsK0d6mtwP1zBssXHWwH vvk1wZf+ruCdA7XZv7ycZrDRvBgttnbXf//fs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Xyw/njQUa3GagaV7TR3Tlx0DdmQ/UwTf8ywGb08jcGbd2gjqg9v8voqOQI4djhbb20 zSr+W90m2BBMgdlj0EVRn0CB84z9v8VxyKJig3Rvbv/0BHjxyeqn4usyY9qmDD1APrnJ XZvAj/R3zWQy1yeg762MsSoJB2KZddF+XUJZU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> <49C7DA17.3060503@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:58:15 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6c2fa4ef0b20465cdd963 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:58:16 +0000 (UTC) --001485f6c2fa4ef0b20465cdd963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you sound like a man who enjoys the tracking of it all.... On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Byron Howell wrote= : > (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.) > > Hey brother > > Were do you go to check out your stats? This is of some interest to me. > > Byron > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Claude Voit wrote: > >> Rainer >> are you friendly here ? >> is this a welcome ? >> bad digestion ? >> >> Claude >> >> Rainer Straschill a =E9crit : >> >> Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and i >>>> am surprised how much it's been growing! >>>> >>> >>> On which figures is your statement of "how mucht it's been growing" >>> based? Number of messages or bytes of posts in summa? Averaged on >>> which time span? Absolute values or relation to average growth of >>> internet use/internet community use in the relevant time span? >>> >>> It may be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited posts >>> which you percieved as being rude. >>> >>> Rainer >>> >>> (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.) >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > --001485f6c2fa4ef0b20465cdd963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you sound like a man who enjoys the tracking of it all....

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Byron Howell <howell.byron@= gmail.com> wrote:
(in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.)
=A0
Hey brother
=A0
Were do you go to check out your stats? This is of some interest to me= .
=A0
Byron
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:
Rainer
are you friendly here = ?
is this a welcome ?
bad digestion ?

Claude

Rainer Str= aschill a =E9crit :=20

Finally i signed up for the mail= ing list.. after 3 years..tssss. =A0and i am surprised how much it's be= en growing!

On which figures is your statement of "how mucht it&#= 39;s been growing"
based? Number of messages or bytes of posts in s= umma? Averaged on
which time span? Absolute values or relation to averag= e growth of
internet use/internet community use in the relevant time span?

It ma= y be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited posts
which = you percieved as being rude.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer
(in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.)






--001485f6c2fa4ef0b20465cdd963-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:00:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 924A83BE90; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hQ/VdL3U5omnh+kqinwrT653/qHxcv8wnasGRNCBXLk=; b=v93sAcYMqirAjV/1ljeElqffGP8hq1t7jkUVGC9uVcynmCr2zTUSp7YjKFyAomzQrk bWz+nMZ0lY9TPsBE17AX9UM+9Wie6+F1Foow41+vUL+E1zIkgXb/2m9QRVGRMOOMqSES kV3GMPCXKWg9CgkrCoM2oSLPpQzWXvRaXKSes= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vmVFSKMfnIfN/ss+4I5WOs1KaGzB9UDb20hwevvoQeX2RB47pbWKNgMsQfjikbd/9A iBnl4Zr+/sxfBX0yG5R2Kz0YtpiLBPQ/v8m6aCdAPy5DHoZcwiOUV7W9x2nU7olKHHgU JFiwHGZvtmGPB0VMSqbsDfXXEUYPJRHckANpE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:00:41 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903231200i58cba089r67e948e0e9afebf0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC) > Were do you go to check out your stats? This is of some interest to me. http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:04:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E61983BE99; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:04:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=szDHYoTAUR/9M7Jyr7AAwzXZ4UZSKn4NfeyhsnZ6HGg=; b=ZmyZNgO3/WnN1GydrezPVUnKiBeLXKzwK/3/v5KBex72ABjGZ8U/vBFBn7+Q76qH0O xUV+EraO0zyQjh6KYNlY/e0b0AjVvaI5kNcyCTQkHvoZNHwVyYdE88IOmS145AXoorpR OCpCkGQzATdCsHPrSNUPa46Y8IVwa8dVvTt4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=RT8sbXQDk90GT8XUOo1ROC7WD/7wMi3uIcwTQJoSiNYaoeSF4r8XrvuVpZAkdBvEb+ 2WGCk+je20drcNAtOV7/BQpEaP4+u3r9mbBzX0JkpfgXl5BOMpYRrqLWajjpvjR0p8ME foTjmzEFBmilCib1Ifo9UN1wxrZdzVQA7jhEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:04:16 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903231204g176b6387y2c11f47d4acce8e2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6VSHD.A.2cE.x09xJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:04:17 +0000 (UTC) > Rainer > are you friendly here ? > is this a welcome ? > bad digestion ? Seriously, someone coming here, complaining about remarks which he regards as rude, which were triggered by unqualified statements of his, and continues to make unqualified statements will have a hard time earning a friendly welcome from me. And I'm eupeptic all right, thank you ;). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:05:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CEB23BE93; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i102xKBnEecl/F0F8vxCEAFB3xkcY7aM3WvQKv9FsF8=; b=oz8ejHURu/XYO3W9VtvgN0h7n8T2GpveNlv0LNVwpjG8TsHNRqJ80mGKvCpczHqhVz ccU/ugAkgB5S/zpoL4+MkHdg2IxIVvAR3J+lMOKLPY1hprujrNmq/TCpVTEZ5pJ2uKpu RsVbqlk1FxI6EVkjmteISWqWQJFB2EUdlpS00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=lBuIXa6RWvJ0/Q18P9f3rqW8Vg3vofOY6vHvN3nHYI9rdfCRLrB2ARjkapF5ze2Pbv xIH7YrKJmqtEFZl/TVPz7Y4t8z0sTWb0ti0s6gNRYqQN41F8TJOU+JfKZJUGJ1DsVE7r 7dZw5L+12blb2hsHujCinKKgHWNccPBFPYZKI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:05:48 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Teresa Andersson From: Tony K To: loopers-delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:05:49 +0000 (UTC) I thought this was quite well done. Wonder what she's using for loopers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXqn42AykM -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:08:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBC253BEA4; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:08:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EaGbNl9fU5FwrxEqXFlLfSyfQgH/lDTI+HCsFLgRP2k=; b=SQSkG2F8sCaDYgcoSHoZLAfjY7cW/I3lNoCWIql0KJxFOJO7z4gfKkr0TZ7RHajU3h yLA/sRBngqBrhuLd1Udal27MRBxuqiB3QrqD7Zv65gNWtRj4gg8HJkQ59ismLKA/ycGF gybHDhbm3bdKpVZUymLIOHN7K7yiZUxSDx3Ww= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=OeYG1nFZu8HyDUUu3DdFuZ8f94uu8OwhuS5JdzaRiFCULt+7Zbb/tOiVGoqqdGHsl9 SPh1IeW5+dUAgoB4+pIeTd8otgi5DfpaH3EEbemcNKddvMx41//Y8RMK11TdmvyQzuUO vex0bLAK7VyeORbRQhX14V8JAXM2zVlJnj+Ew= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:08:22 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903231208h52609ac6v9d46f77e8bf6b8bd@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Teresa Andersson From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <58sh3D.A.ZqE.p49xJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:08:25 +0000 (UTC) > I thought this was quite well done. Wonder what she's using for loopers. In this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2eD4GcLohE&feature=channel_page, it looks like a pair of RC-50s. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:10:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79BBC3BEB6; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=1XF/W/yE2oWymdWhrZ+mbyW7fCjvFhrzJaX1w1hTn9s=; b=ljoLiLP0H26S891n6ypltHgAE0IB32ARgmHmn1NB/2RBKM5Kpx154ZhShplJIGI23H /wqJx4FHeXO7JaOUpr6FtiBE1OBktPjQaPKrW7yjybx2M1kadEKThBIpOAJN5MLb8+FX 7lOgGEMQ37E2Ex7zRLxmmOEpML8pvChCHrKXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SpauMHRR//hgKEEvFFBM5mNRPYQDrR4z5rHK6kNqkmVD0IbEE7bCIKC118jkQ90prC OJro9pEcsEy9LeXxaJFnQQW3AzqSCbnCsJQ3ON7qkxhhXoyCyfFQQ1rLkpsLug/a7cc3 bth4SLfD63wXrxiBsS8ZLeaZYXdi5AIGIOXOY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903231208h52609ac6v9d46f77e8bf6b8bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903231208h52609ac6v9d46f77e8bf6b8bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:10:07 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:10:08 +0000 (UTC) ah, yeah. better angle in that vid. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 3:08 PM, Rainer Straschill wrote: >> I thought this was quite well done. =A0Wonder what she's using for loope= rs. > > In this video > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn2eD4GcLohE&feature=3Dchannel_page, > > it looks like a pair of RC-50s. > > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Rainer > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:15:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E4CA3BEAE; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:14:57 +0100 Message-ID: <000001c9abeb$a86315e0$050313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acmr3Yb7WCorCNSTRfm9pyqMSTh2/gAC9Dcg In-Reply-To: <001101c9abdd$87987ed0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <_QquaC.A.0_E.8-9xJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Hi Michael, That's funny...I used to have a Nord Modular synth in the past, and I've programmed several patches which created random patterns and background sounds. And now that I've moved to a laptop setup I was thinking to add "automatic" or "random" components in Bidule and sync these with the midi clock. Perhaps a midi synced slicer effect and a volume pedal to fade the rhythmns in and out would be interesting to. But I don't kow about Vsti's who can sync to audio and generate rhythmic elements. I bet they use this kind of technology in the DJ-world. --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:46:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE2473BE8F; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:37:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0190_01C9ABAB.C379B360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:46:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0190_01C9ABAB.C379B360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I never posted anything about you, but had I seen that comment, I might = have. ;-) Seriously though, welcome to the list. The RC50 is definitely not the = most powerful looper in the world, but if you spend any time here, I'm = sure you will learn that. Bob Amstadt ----- Original Message -----=20 I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some where = kinda rude!!!)=20 i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM = 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! ------=_NextPart_000_0190_01C9ABAB.C379B360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I never posted anything about you, but = had I seen=20 that comment, I might have. ;-)
 
Seriously though, welcome to the = list.  The=20 RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in the world, but if you = spend=20 any time here, I'm sure you will learn that.
 
Bob Amstadt
----- Original Message -----
I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some = where=20 kinda rude!!!) 
i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave at the summer = NAMM=20 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that
the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the=20 world!
------=_NextPart_000_0190_01C9ABAB.C379B360-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 19:47:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2230D3BEC1; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: introducing myself :) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 12:47:04 -0700 Message-ID: <62C58A291537480F98FE508F8F56D85E@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: Acmr6o+QP8nK4xnxS/atFn7/xk1DrgABDCZA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:47:07 +0000 (UTC) Rainer sez "It may be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited posts which you percieved as being rude. Rainer (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.)" Ouch!!!! Ok Rainer, that's it, I'm officially removing you from my short list of candidates for the postion of "Looping Good Will Ambassador";-)Even though you are immensely qualified, the position calls for a greater degree of diplomatic skill ;-) Bill PS Welcome Rico! Can you feel the love???? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 20:20:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B64FA3BE8F; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=XylNJ2TNsVv6BEaIMlNv+7DjhDHKMEfe76lgJHD3Btk=; b=Qu4jIqFc1WkrJck/vVWSP4G08NvchFT1mQ9ATPKqThwY+xuDXL73Rh9kbSrQ/pSrLo Q+RxUIMdvqSSfCUUZRNwdzTwKis5Mw8sp/7p3VUXGQg/1vsbFvpQkxoNGrq21Az9Ct+4 hrmkFQStojSbn6OFqDpBnSFIdGcf8ALEDAdbQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=E0Twqh5lEJxVMzWOtqwxZhFA0xjVxt7iubN51ucGbALOt1m2zn3xK309gdwajW8c3j oZNmzyil7to4vflq5d3NcDWtkj5YJdl4nlGc+oop/lfMVshcz7j3X2pU0J9fmgLzXblu RKeiDvqTI/VuT38QnwD8J3z3Q7hbNzcJaqmk4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:20:04 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 429c7618a9d4fd16 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903231320u2ecea6a3ja1c58ad47bd42308@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ba59e5ce130465cefdf6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:20:05 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ba59e5ce130465cefdf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Rico, I dont know nothing of rude posts against you, but you are welcome here by me... be careful though... them thar loopers, they got them some sharp ole toothypegs.. I myself got real chewed up onmy second post ever.. god know.. 8 years ago or some such luducruis time ago, when I had short hair and trousers... m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5ba59e5ce130465cefdf6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rico,
I dont know nothing of rude posts against you, but you are wel= come here by me... be careful though... them thar loopers, they got them so= me sharp ole toothypegs.. I myself got real chewed up onmy second post ever= .. god know.. 8 years ago or some such luducruis time ago, when I had short= hair and trousers...
=A0

m



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www.markfrancombe.com
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http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--001636c5ba59e5ce130465cefdf6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 20:28:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A59C13BEA0; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:28:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=LfkPYX3fNcMoSyblMQKfoSe5FT1v+AmN3bXbb3YUOA8=; b=QPxgXn4IkVPqq9CydYvqHz8J4I4/+9PW9AE/F21hW2Qqq8B6qCO2h6wYeEw/FGp1e6 mQpglkAQT8ksWqZV4Firp+Z/lglzTMblN+AoWgY3CUbWJr8rCeHF/ZyvuUzcGnXOpDXn O43Qg6ZF6PyZLnD70ebcmkE3VDwzNNgX5+Fr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=r5cjiFfOfioYf3E0Jlp+wS1P+XzuaDZvQzv1lzJqFN6ZJKMJkOC4P1dm/qxoaGQGv0 xEpW7srRAOS3WfFlBn0onmERf29KgvkxWbpwuV+2XUKSAyjr40vJ0g73fb/ANYSiAJ2X qsWZB3I8KzzfpJbItaAA5C+FWRROMg2kwTZhw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:28:18 -0400 Message-ID: <5cf51d390903231328v6138b78aw690dfef1dfadef68@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loop Friendly Venues From: Thomas Wegmann To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325550d625a5dc00465cf1b3c Resent-Message-ID: <0sL3EC.A.-P.jD_xJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:28:19 +0000 (UTC) --000325550d625a5dc00465cf1b3c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I loop at LiveMix Studio in Charleston, West Virginia once a month. www.myspace.com\livemixstudio also on Facebook. 1033 Quarrier Street Room 506 (5th Floor) Contact Greg Wegmann 304-395-0675 for details All Musical styles welcomed but the crowds have reacted best to more professional musicians and entertainers. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:51 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Inspired by the recent, and ongoing thread RE: East Coast Loop friendly > venues... > > I was wondering if we should compile a list of Loop friendly Venues > Worldwide. > Now this does NOT need to be a thousand venues long. Just the Best... > Easiest for an "out of towny" to get a gig venues. > > Now I realize that we all play somewhat different genres of looping music, > so there may be SOME variants. See project rules BELOW > > I will compile this list and paste it somewhere permanent, maybe the > Looping Forum. > > The project rules: > > EVERYONE on this list must submit at least ONE venue, from their home > town. And this is the information that I need, In THIS exact order please. > if you do NOT have the information write N/A or something. > > 1.VENUE NAME > 2. URL > 3. ADDRESS > 4. CONTACT NAME + TELEPHONE (more info the better) > 5. MUSIC STYLE (For this field please restrict to these 3 genres ONLY. 1) > DANGEROUS 2) SAFE 3) ANY > ("Dangerous" denotes experimental, noise, drone, extreme ambient etc . > "Safe" denotes looped songs, more "musical", obviously acceptance of looping > will still make it a cool venue, Im thinking more of the crowd that the > place attracts than whether the venue allows it. And "Any, obviously > denotes, a crowd open to anything. > 6. INFO (Any extra info can be placed here. Capacity, PA spec, one line of > chatty reminiscence) > > Thats it. I don't want to make it too hard for people, and at the very > least the name of the venue, city and URL should be mentioned. > > Maybe this should be sent to me privately so as not to bog up the list too > much? I will post results later. > > Mark > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- Greg Wegmann TheWeg@Verizon.net TheWeg@GMail.com --000325550d625a5dc00465cf1b3c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
=A0=A0=A0 I loop at LiveMix Studio in Charleston, West Virginia once a= month.=A0 www.myspace.com= \livemixstudio also on Facebook.
1033 Quarrier Street Room 506 (5th Floor)
Contact Greg Wegmann 304-395-0675 for details
All Musical styles welcomed but the crowds have reacted best to more p= rofessional musicians and entertainers.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:51 AM, mark francombe = <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:
Inspired by the recent, and ongo= ing thread RE: East Coast Loop friendly venues...

I was wondering if= we should compile a list of Loop friendly Venues Worldwide.
Now this does NOT need to be a thousand venues long. Just the Best... Easie= st for an "out of towny" to get a gig venues.

Now I reali= ze that we all play somewhat different genres of looping music, so there ma= y be SOME variants. See project rules BELOW

I will compile this list and paste it somewhere permanent, maybe the Lo= oping Forum.

The project rules:

EVERYONE on this list must su= bmit at least ONE venue, from their home town.=A0 And this is the informati= on that I need, In THIS exact order please.=A0 if you do NOT have the infor= mation write N/A or something.

1.VENUE NAME
2. URL
3. ADDRESS
4. CONTACT NAME + TELEPHONE (m= ore info the better)
5. MUSIC STYLE (For this field please restrict to t= hese 3 genres ONLY. 1) DANGEROUS 2) SAFE 3) ANY
("Dangerous" d= enotes experimental, noise, drone, extreme ambient etc . "Safe" d= enotes looped songs, more "musical", obviously acceptance of loop= ing will still make it a cool venue, Im thinking more of the crowd that the= place attracts than whether the venue allows it. And "Any, obviously = denotes, a crowd open to anything.
6. INFO (Any extra info can be placed here. Capacity, PA spec, one line of = chatty reminiscence)

Thats it. I don't want to make it too hard = for people, and at the very least the name of the venue, city and URL shoul= d be mentioned.

Maybe this should be sent to me privately so as not to bog up the list = too much? I will post results later.

Mark
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http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.co= m/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch



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TheWeg@Verizon.net
TheWeg@GMail.com

--000325550d625a5dc00465cf1b3c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 21:08:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62BF43BE8A; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=lrj4Zn5SiwvVcMrus5oSq3AXgbv1SrpiSlErcwvAm0s=; b=X1+DHNfp6RyY9bUz5A71J3tV4F9jJfEJgMaltjATXiBaL8siazg5C9auSzVbaTVXT+ oaN/Un04xXDqnTaihbFRuC7S+10bHuA5sCiblePbL24oiaEcG3mVc6+XJB6gy1HO6HXK rhjYLcYF/ZfpRI1jhurSsQ39R1z8Z4Dac6fHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Jhd8nsemdpWkqnIRLEhr1rnkd9fRfhjGMv0N7X5yn9UCqrUvsOmqPdWtpmRyNhCQdb Tt71VZ2jYc8mtF9gPo0Z5UR6zRyPr6wzbWaLnA5PSHEUcv5XfRmbYCZKK6mXtSd+DJRQ JS737dkbelWqKrc4Tapd8ZIZX/fp+G6hp2aJU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5cf51d390903231328v6138b78aw690dfef1dfadef68@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <5cf51d390903231328v6138b78aw690dfef1dfadef68@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:08:18 -0400 Message-ID: <91d8478b0903231408y75faf12ene48a84fdea98a150@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Loop Friendly Venues From: Jean-Paul De Roover To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59fb0496bf10465cfab41 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:08:36 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd59fb0496bf10465cfab41 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I submitted an Art Gallery in Thunder Bay to the list. We recently had Paul Hegarty, a noise artist from Ireland. Definitely Superior Art Gallery, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. www.definitelysuperior.com On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Thomas Wegmann wrote: > Hello all, > I loop at LiveMix Studio in Charleston, West Virginia once a month. > www.myspace.com\livemixstudio also > on Facebook. > 1033 Quarrier Street Room 506 (5th Floor) > Contact Greg Wegmann 304-395-0675 for details > All Musical styles welcomed but the crowds have reacted best to more > professional musicians and entertainers. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:51 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Inspired by the recent, and ongoing thread RE: East Coast Loop friendly >> venues... >> >> I was wondering if we should compile a list of Loop friendly Venues >> Worldwide. >> Now this does NOT need to be a thousand venues long. Just the Best... >> Easiest for an "out of towny" to get a gig venues. >> >> Now I realize that we all play somewhat different genres of looping music, >> so there may be SOME variants. See project rules BELOW >> >> I will compile this list and paste it somewhere permanent, maybe the >> Looping Forum. >> >> The project rules: >> >> EVERYONE on this list must submit at least ONE venue, from their home >> town. And this is the information that I need, In THIS exact order please. >> if you do NOT have the information write N/A or something. >> >> 1.VENUE NAME >> 2. URL >> 3. ADDRESS >> 4. CONTACT NAME + TELEPHONE (more info the better) >> 5. MUSIC STYLE (For this field please restrict to these 3 genres ONLY. 1) >> DANGEROUS 2) SAFE 3) ANY >> ("Dangerous" denotes experimental, noise, drone, extreme ambient etc . >> "Safe" denotes looped songs, more "musical", obviously acceptance of looping >> will still make it a cool venue, Im thinking more of the crowd that the >> place attracts than whether the venue allows it. And "Any, obviously >> denotes, a crowd open to anything. >> 6. INFO (Any extra info can be placed here. Capacity, PA spec, one line of >> chatty reminiscence) >> >> Thats it. I don't want to make it too hard for people, and at the very >> least the name of the venue, city and URL should be mentioned. >> >> Maybe this should be sent to me privately so as not to bog up the list too >> much? I will post results later. >> >> Mark >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > > > -- > Greg Wegmann > > TheWeg@Verizon.net > TheWeg@GMail.com > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com --000e0cd59fb0496bf10465cfab41 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I submitted an Art Gallery in Thunder Bay to the list.=A0 We recently had P= aul Hegarty, a noise artist from Ireland.=A0

Definitely Superior Ar= t Gallery, Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada.

www.definitelysuperior.com

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Thomas Wegm= ann <theweg@gmail.= com> wrote:
Hello all,
=A0=A0=A0 I loop at LiveMix Studio in Charleston, West Virginia once a= month.=A0 www.myspace.com\livemixstudio also on Facebook.
1033 Quarrier Street Room 506 (5th Floor)
Contact Greg Wegmann 304-395-0675 for details
All Musical styles welcomed but the crowds have reacted best to more p= rofessional musicians and entertainers.

On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:51 AM, mark francombe = <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Inspired by the r= ecent, and ongoing thread RE: East Coast Loop friendly venues...

I w= as wondering if we should compile a list of Loop friendly Venues Worldwide.=
Now this does NOT need to be a thousand venues long. Just the Best... Easie= st for an "out of towny" to get a gig venues.

Now I reali= ze that we all play somewhat different genres of looping music, so there ma= y be SOME variants. See project rules BELOW

I will compile this list and paste it somewhere permanent, maybe the Lo= oping Forum.

The project rules:

EVERYONE on this list must su= bmit at least ONE venue, from their home town.=A0 And this is the informati= on that I need, In THIS exact order please.=A0 if you do NOT have the infor= mation write N/A or something.

1.VENUE NAME
2. URL
3. ADDRESS
4. CONTACT NAME + TELEPHONE (m= ore info the better)
5. MUSIC STYLE (For this field please restrict to t= hese 3 genres ONLY. 1) DANGEROUS 2) SAFE 3) ANY
("Dangerous" d= enotes experimental, noise, drone, extreme ambient etc . "Safe" d= enotes looped songs, more "musical", obviously acceptance of loop= ing will still make it a cool venue, Im thinking more of the crowd that the= place attracts than whether the venue allows it. And "Any, obviously = denotes, a crowd open to anything.
6. INFO (Any extra info can be placed here. Capacity, PA spec, one line of = chatty reminiscence)

Thats it. I don't want to make it too hard = for people, and at the very least the name of the venue, city and URL shoul= d be mentioned.

Maybe this should be sent to me privately so as not to bog up the list = too much? I will post results later.

Mark
--
www.mar= kfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/= user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.co= m/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch



= --
Greg Wegmann

TheWeg@Verizon.net
TheWeg@GMail.com




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Jean-Paul De Roo= ver
www.jeanpaulderoover.com=
--000e0cd59fb0496bf10465cfab41-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 21:29:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DDF83BE8E; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:29:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ok3K9xS3v3vH/g3eDc7z02u7ewTcE79hrdWhZLIATto=; b=Smxne1vUwpu+sh/JpIHYcd5ZbqGagqff1XpsAxOW5vWkqdPV2wKoJA+feajycSytIq 2WK58nuZ+cdCDn+H38IqNxtf1tIAdXcEhVpwBX8Z/UeJlM0duJza0rNfvq7B7zHwv2NH MIQIVslKXbSl2YjKWeMop5OQ8ln/nqNpTRE5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=djDEayzjXUSraUPLu0ecXMGz+3YwdRIlVdafE5ovyDNyQCRC8NCVbWnvtn7KKD1knm k9VEO9GZ1Ew/fbMCwuE4lHAwdbFnBuPgyppBYAXpEsLe1kw+SCfmVEYt7N+Bms386jWX gaaOl1yYVf5A6dE9Nhz9EF7Sfbach5Wiw92uA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903231320u2ecea6a3ja1c58ad47bd42308@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> <9ab0c76f0903231320u2ecea6a3ja1c58ad47bd42308@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:22:23 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903231422m3f2ca721o39cd244f2ba5aab0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174ff5d6c93f5b0465cfdc66 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:29:39 +0000 (UTC) --0015174ff5d6c93f5b0465cfdc66 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark that's funny man... On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:20 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Hi Rico, > I dont know nothing of rude posts against you, but you are welcome here by > me... be careful though... them thar loopers, they got them some sharp ole > toothypegs.. I myself got real chewed up onmy second post ever.. god know.. > 8 years ago or some such luducruis time ago, when I had short hair and > trousers... > > > m > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > -- music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174ff5d6c93f5b0465cfdc66 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark that's funny man...

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:20 PM, mark francombe = <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:
Hi Rico,
I dont know nothing= of rude posts against you, but you are welcome here by me... be careful th= ough... them thar loopers, they got them some sharp ole toothypegs.. I myse= lf got real chewed up onmy second post ever.. god know.. 8 years ago or som= e such luducruis time ago, when I had short hair and trousers...
=A0

m



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/us= er825094
http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch



--
music= links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.comwww.myspace.com/jimgood= inmusic
www.myspace.com/china= paintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
www.youtube.com/jimgoodin= music

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networkin= g...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodin= music

--0015174ff5d6c93f5b0465cfdc66-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 21:30:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAB463BEA9; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 504 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:30:48 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FP6rrSdkLYNKw5znThDsC6QIgzNYH8f4UZehZ5z84VI=; b=PRvI4af9Z+zvcnqEHGj7NORHrNaeF70VNAa2CthVA/VcFSIm8LCwJpNM8g4UjyyeVO 28xE0I+RWWTrOnJM3ii07DXlpc0TNV11QKkCztm6HqKIt75b8hVas5R0y7DxUwTV1057 WogUSlPphr4PXmjX7Nj+Miovq3cv60yly+Qyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S8yGEu2EhHptHro372F8DILTopG2D4MASCRrKYMfEKGhFiFcxfr8mcukxLrHg3bNeG BnA7YrZBsDGyQjuDQjiMzKdFO4ddvdeQDMKsxufNi7gBxhf+DwlDg2xxAL0dQ5v8T3jF 8IXlXK+/Y29tppcqSPcUZIzLkJJGeaZfLPELM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> <9e0440a60903230811o56191f17rc82ed3952d75c07f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:30:48 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903231430w48d2b7c9odab260534af417f7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Jim Goodin To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517573ef6df0cfd0465cffaa5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:30:49 +0000 (UTC) --001517573ef6df0cfd0465cffaa5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rico thank you for taking the time to listen and I owe you that which I will this evening. I overlooked the bottom portion of your email re past neg interaction or less that positive support from this community which surprises me (aside from Mark's humorous response). There is a range of expertise here some tremendously intense as well as intelligence and certainly opinion and ego. Anyhow I've been around here since 2006 and though in some ways I'm a lightweight looper I've found nothing but support and encouragement from the community. Again welcome... jim On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, rico diessner wrote: > Thanks JIM! > like your tracks..! > > all the best :) > > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Rico welcome, think you will find it a supportive, informed community, I > certainly have and do. > > Jim Goodin > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, rico diessner wrote: > >> >> Hi Loopers around the world! >> >> My name is Rico. I come from Berlin and live on Ibiza. >> I am a passionate looper and i am happy there is such a strong community >> out there! >> >> Thanks to all for making that possible! :) >> >> Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and i am >> surprised how much it's been growing! >> I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some where >> kinda rude!!!) >> i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM 2006..where >> i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that >> the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! Actually it was a >> mistake by me cause i knew there where other >> Loop mashines out there with much more diverse functions.. :) well, >> thanks for your understanding! >> by the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked :) >> >> I am happy to join you now and i will get more into it as i have more time >> now to share and dwell on our creativity! >> >> Love and music and i am happy to hear from you :) >> >> Rico Loop >> >> p.s. who ever feels like... check me out on www.ricoloop.com >> >> >> _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _* _ * _ >> http:// www.ricoloop.com >> one.man.jam >> >> rico@ricoloop.com >> ---------------------------- >> >> >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > -- music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --001517573ef6df0cfd0465cffaa5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rico thank you for taking the time to listen and I owe you that which = I will this evening.=A0 I overlooked the bottom portion of your email re pa= st neg interaction or less that positive support from this community which = surprises me (aside from Mark's humorous response).=A0 There is a range= of expertise here some tremendously intense as well as intelligence and ce= rtainly opinion and ego.=A0 Anyhow I've been around here since 2006 and= though in some ways I'm a lightweight looper I've found nothing bu= t support and encouragement from the community.
=A0
Again welcome...
=A0
jim
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, rico diessner = <rico@ricoloop.co= m> wrote:
Thanks JIM!=20

like your tracks..!

all the best :)


On Mar 23, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

Rico welcome, think you will find it a supportive, informed community,= I certainly have and do.
=A0
Jim Goodin


=A0
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, rico diessner = <rico@ricoloop.com> wrote:

Hi Loopers around the world!

My name is Rico. I come from Berlin and live on Ibiza.
I am a passionate looper and i am happy there is such a strong communi= ty out there!

Thanks to all for making that possible! =A0:)

Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. =A0an= d i am surprised how much it's been growing!
I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some wh= ere kinda rude!!!)=A0
i want to apologize=A0for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM 2006.= .where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that
the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! =A0Actually it was= a mistake by me cause i knew there where other
Loop mashines out there with much more diverse functions.. =A0:) well,= thanks for your understanding!
by the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked :)

I am happy to join you now and i will get more into it as i have more = time now to share and dwell on our creativity!

Love and music and i am happy to hear from you :)

Rico Loop =A0

p.s. who ever feels like... check me out on www.ricoloop.com


_ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ *=A0=A0_ * _ * _* _ * _
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0http://=A0www.ricoloop.= com
=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 =A0=A0 = =A0one.man.jam
--------------------------= --


=




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The Aco= ustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin =A0- http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -http://ww= w.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.c= om
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodand= wiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars= .com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com




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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--001517573ef6df0cfd0465cffaa5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 21:49:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A36B3BE8E; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903231320u2ecea6a3ja1c58ad47bd42308@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> <9ab0c76f0903231320u2ecea6a3ja1c58ad47bd42308@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:49:53 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:49:58 +0000 (UTC) At 9:20 PM +0100 3/23/09, mark francombe wrote: > >8 years ago or some such luducruis time ago, when I had short hair >and trousers... You had trousers? And here I thought you only ever looped with no pants... ;) --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 21:55:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5419F3BE98; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZFW035ZGMGN72I6sn6TNk7r9EmVHwAq6Bv7abV2wEuw=; b=nHNu33lHtlTGgt1XMYSnU4Vj23qrAeiD/DX4ewYun4b+5Je1EljJchEvl9D9WmJZSZ XrQ2+YlcdiEwyzbE1vEYrV6A4Xs/fgTeggaI0PDozrDc2w6Uhu2OKr27esOetFTFE4eh 7sUvVV1a/JblbaBU+5PZR4aPnuYxuvTqqVE28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=pid8C/ZBpnB5CLk1qf/kJS/Akfn94gRNBDah5VmiOc6JzdVCj6hVfx2M6sl1p6y/TW Mo4aJ3rYyqL41NMJS1UiJqyUzZoVheVLcoHiT+gYbUo4jZKABJ49clwFxB1wFOZhOiAX 4QPFbgYhL03qjfXUDYDZIrjpmsQEIYf5ht7t4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:55:51 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903231455waf218bblef4ac69813d1ec4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: looping with pants (was: "Re: introducing myself :)") From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:55:53 +0000 (UTC) > You had trousers? > And here I thought you only ever looped with no pants... You will be surprised what you see when you do an (internet-based) kybermusik session and ask the other participant to cut a video of his performance ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 22:06:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D63923BE95; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7334ca1b0903231455waf218bblef4ac69813d1ec4@mail.gmail.com> References: <7334ca1b0903231455waf218bblef4ac69813d1ec4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:05:57 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: looping with pants (was: "Re: introducing myself :)") Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:06:01 +0000 (UTC) At 10:55 PM +0100 3/23/09, Rainer Straschill wrote: > > You had trousers? >> And here I thought you only ever looped with no pants... > >You will be surprised what you see when you do an (internet-based) >kybermusik session and ask the other participant to cut a video of his >performance ;) Pics, or it didn'.... Waitasec, on second thought I really *don't* want pictures of that. I'll take your word for it. --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 22:16:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A71D63BE93; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VVcnYAIseHhz4WvfEjqKg+pdCHgZDPANQut/iOvg4Os=; b=cRugBurpXIHXOnCm7JtIFCb023rDddqYhFrdnqRdq7p6OgoVytBFoO5TPBhfLD/wEu Ab4tAsjw5rlZqNOTVI1N12w7eB03HDnLU9teCJpP7mNbuXH8Ir6zeUWabx86XE967Nkw 8nzVlyjPfaNIEWC9wtvS9Wn3Kx4FOOZEqCCCQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=l6/8w+CBGSZhwS0N616VH5CWyBdzp+wbI8WyMZ/hrI/8VFGqnNGiWcN8vnZH+tsPtg igqefo/funRhTuF7D7LoAtZR9unsi2PQrlGJ5RpmFASS2iFMCvNDEuuKWlbkVjvA49fR 2s0H/WGOBnjUGcBCZzmjKn979Xnyb00vTzswI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <001101c9abdd$87987ed0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <001101c9abdd$87987ed0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:16:33 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903231516m78ca511ah51ced52df1374680@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9lTNZD.A.ncG.CpAyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Very interesting idea, Michael! I've been thinking about that too... for years. FXpansion makes GURU that analyzes a loop saved to the hard drive and slices it up into short elements that are distributed as sound sources for a drum sampler run by a MIDI sequencer. Sound slices with "kick drum like" character is mapped for the kick pattern, sounds with high and light touch are mapped as hihat pattern etc etc. If this wonderful drum programming tool would just accept live audio input as the material to slice up and map into a sampler patch, then you would have your holy graal! GURU is available as VST. There a native plug-in of the Max built looper Logelloop that comes pretty close to. It generally samples a short slice of your audio input and plays it back "sampler-style" according to pre-programmed step sequencer patterns. No available as VST though. A while back I published a blue-print for a related plug-in that I called The Steppophonic Looperformer: http://www.perboysen.com/archives/161 The idea is free to snatch for everyone that has the time at hand to program a software tool of it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Michael Peters wrote: > I've already included an audio-2-midi vst in some of my setups, but what I'm > dreaming of in the moment is a VSTi (say, a drum machine) that takes your > audio (not your midi), tries to find rhythmic elements, and creates a groove > based on them. Something like a virtual drummer. Rayzoon has a "virtual > drummer" VSTi but it needs a midi pulse for speed. I want something that > only reacts to audio patterns. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 22:17:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEF393BEAE; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237846632; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=6u5JjCQXy9iq4XpsOnJwU5Kv/KE=; b=U57HF8IoCFooiiQhi3ypiBZVMUav/MHbr2XnrUyJhaLWii8qr98nqDh5ZD6kjJ/z UsswiXvjKeywrvUqSPNvcA0sWWhf0I60TyoCg0Rhfyw/PxvJa8SDdCnJ/S/oBlbW; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2qSTNtRx964A:10 a=8Ihv29y1WaYA:10 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=9yaU15Gti_v2rqgGkAwA:9 a=zV2o22XYpg2VQ0F4l0aWgZnaNpkA:4 a=birkmQ2h4YEA:10 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c9ac05$1e69e480$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <7334ca1b0903231455waf218bblef4ac69813d1ec4@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping with pants (was: "Re: introducing myself :)") Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:17:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <4TAFgB.A.9hG.opAyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:17:12 +0000 (UTC) Is that a reference to me Rainer? lol, I did have pants on anyway! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: looping with pants (was: "Re: introducing myself :)") >> You had trousers? >> And here I thought you only ever looped with no pants... > > You will be surprised what you see when you do an (internet-based) > kybermusik session and ask the other participant to cut a video of his > performance ;) > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 22:47:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27E983BE8C; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237848464; bh=0cIoxGMmI6+jwYqNTAAZK6pL4mtBHh5ZkJjDKxCv3sE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=BE5xgFSBQGTHcGgVQUkNUJJ29Nq/48UfVJIceu2LGkKk9SK/76c9ORRCQCEjWhmNSiP9v8fUVQd+FHwikSnCYU8Ew2GthVB76orQzsqABBMYs8rqsBAOapTTDrjtRyJjNoZsaImOM9+Hg87TQpB7J7pPcGdHtzT4i0mWPvTJjLg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GxqJ84/qXZIc+iCyiWvzwYAQkG3KVuJQo2LvVZaVG2LYzOvNXcHygyv9FITTw8VwgyhhjWoquvUq/1eXwJ4SNKjdbEsI2J9nXbv7TqlGQfmYdwrAcykMtI1qm3u9ADoHXesTKtWUEOXPph9iqafx87Ww2Ux/nfhgg1iagQH+efM=; Message-ID: <962700.55956.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mYtvHNAVM1ldwz9sOpl4AvoneGKZB57cdkhwMVvQaNdOZ9lryiUK.L35h2o9H1L1IHWWWhEBomTJ6Wok_7NHpRQuXQyMKQnvxlUt_NswVM1wdmdZXflcIm4dxSjWBUbBSjqFHsHQSAS9w84GTp1f9eMBx5ZZXqLoHziDmiavpWo7ummJgDxkCqbkbwxHvA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:47:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: introducing myself :) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rico! Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming aware of you through this list,a= nd yes i remember some funny comments about your demonstration and funky mo= ves;-)i must admit i did not think that was a good demo of the RC 50 capabi= lities as it was based more on performance(in fact ive yet to see somebody = do a good demo of it) but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the loop festivals but apparently= there was no response from you, but now we are glad to have you here,dont = worry we are a good gang and there is always a lot to be learned here! Cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > From: Bob Amstadt > Subject: Re: introducing myself :) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM >=20 >=20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > I never posted anything > about you, but had I seen=20 > that comment, I might have. ;-) > =A0 > Seriously though, welcome > to the list.=A0 The=20 > RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in the > world, but if you spend=20 > any time here, I'm sure you will learn > that. > =A0 > Bob Amstadt >=20 > ----- Original Message > -----=20 > I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me > (actually some where=20 > kinda rude!!!)=A0 > i want to apologize=A0for my demo wich i gave at > the summer NAMM=20 > 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned > that > the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the=20 > world!=20 > =0A=0A=0A From nobody@xeon.ipdelsur.com Mon Mar 23 22:58:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 23342 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:58:55 UTC Received: from xeon.ipdelsur.com (xeon.ipdelsur.com [63.247.81.10]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51B7E3BE87 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nobody by xeon.ipdelsur.com with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lln23-0006hR-7U for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:29:47 -0300 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: L'accès à votre cômpte est restreint! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 23:00:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACDE53BE92; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <538E3ADE-A52A-423B-B5E2-5260006A7FC0@ricoloop.com> From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49C7DA17.3060503@vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:00:07 +0100 References: <7334ca1b0903231038w4eff046bie81b885dcea838f6@mail.gmail.com> <49C7DA17.3060503@vtx.ch> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]610179 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:00:10 +0000 (UTC) oh! someone got something wrong? sorry, i knew it would be a little difficult ;) i just ment how much the community is been growing! sorry, my english =20= is sometimes not very good ;) regarding what was rude.. well, some posts about me in the past about =20= my statements on some video.. i am not upset at all! just wanted to point out that some are taking =20 stuff too serious.. we are makin music and inspiring each other :) sorry if you felt uncomfortable Rainer.. i make a loop for you :) all the best, ricO. On Mar 23, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Claude Voit wrote: > Rainer > are you friendly here ? > is this a welcome ? > bad digestion ? > > Claude > > Rainer Straschill a =E9crit : >>> Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. =20= >>> and i am surprised how much it's been growing! >> On which figures is your statement of "how mucht it's been growing" >> based? Number of messages or bytes of posts in summa? Averaged on >> which time span? Absolute values or relation to average growth of >> internet use/internet community use in the relevant time span? >> It may be just that kind of unqualified statements that elicited =20 >> posts >> which you percieved as being rude. >> Rainer >> (in case someone wants to know: yes, I did check the growth values.) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 23:03:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7855A3BEA0; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:03:11 +0100 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]001279 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:03:13 +0000 (UTC) wonderful! thanks tony :) and theresa ;) On Mar 23, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Tony K wrote: > I thought this was quite well done. Wonder what she's using for > loopers. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMXqn42AykM > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 23:10:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B217B3BE8E; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8C2D86A6-C11F-42C4-894B-BFDC2A9226B1@ricoloop.com> From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903231320u2ecea6a3ja1c58ad47bd42308@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--302907208 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:10:14 +0100 References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> <9ab0c76f0903231320u2ecea6a3ja1c58ad47bd42308@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]001279 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:10:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--302907208 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Marc! Maybe i was rude.. takin it too personal. haha! just something about me being a clown ( wich i am ;) so i am happy we have music to heal :) love and loops* On Mar 23, 2009, at 9:20 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Hi Rico, > I dont know nothing of rude posts against you, but you are welcome > here by me... be careful though... them thar loopers, they got them > some sharp ole toothypegs.. I myself got real chewed up onmy second > post ever.. god know.. 8 years ago or some such luducruis time ago, > when I had short hair and trousers... > > > m > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --Apple-Mail-2--302907208 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks = Marc!

Maybe i was rude.. takin it too personal. haha! = just something about me being a clown ( wich i am ;)
so i am = happy we have music to heal :)

love and = loops*

On Mar 23, 2009, at 9:20 PM, mark = francombe wrote:

Hi Rico,
I dont know nothing of rude posts against = you, but you are welcome here by me... be careful though... them thar = loopers, they got them some sharp ole toothypegs.. I myself got real = chewed up onmy second post ever.. god know.. 8 years ago or some such = luducruis time ago, when I had short hair and trousers...
=  

m



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www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20= Synch

= --Apple-Mail-2--302907208-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 23:13:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43C6D3BEA9; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60903231430w48d2b7c9odab260534af417f7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--302728023 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:13:13 +0100 References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> <9e0440a60903230811o56191f17rc82ed3952d75c07f@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60903231430w48d2b7c9odab260534af417f7@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]001279 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:13:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--302728023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks jim! i know i am in good hands :) On Mar 23, 2009, at 10:30 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Rico thank you for taking the time to listen and I owe you that > which I will this evening. I overlooked the bottom portion of your > email re past neg interaction or less that positive support from > this community which surprises me (aside from Mark's humorous > response). There is a range of expertise here some tremendously > intense as well as intelligence and certainly opinion and ego. > Anyhow I've been around here since 2006 and though in some ways I'm > a lightweight looper I've found nothing but support and > encouragement from the community. > > Again welcome... > > jim > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, rico diessner > wrote: > Thanks JIM! > > like your tracks..! > > all the best :) > > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> Rico welcome, think you will find it a supportive, informed >> community, I certainly have and do. >> >> Jim Goodin >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro >> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:05 AM, rico diessner >> wrote: >>> >> >> Hi Loopers around the world! >> >> My name is Rico. I come from Berlin and live on Ibiza. >> I am a passionate looper and i am happy there is such a strong >> community out there! >> >> Thanks to all for making that possible! :) >> >> Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. >> and i am surprised how much it's been growing! >> I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some >> where kinda rude!!!) >> i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM >> 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that >> the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! Actually it >> was a mistake by me cause i knew there where other >> Loop mashines out there with much more diverse functions.. :) >> well, thanks for your understanding! >> by the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked :) >> >> I am happy to join you now and i will get more into it as i have >> more time now to share and dwell on our creativity! >> >> Love and music and i am happy to hear from you :) >> >> Rico Loop >> >> p.s. who ever feels like... check me out on www.ricoloop.com >> >> >> _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _* _ * _ >> http:// www.ricoloop.com >> one.man.jam >> >> rico@ricoloop.com >> ---------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by >> Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > > > -- > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > --Apple-Mail-3--302728023 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks = jim!

i know i am in good hands = :)


On Mar 23, 2009, at = 10:30 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

Rico = thank you for taking the time to listen and I owe you that which I will = this evening.  I overlooked the bottom portion of your email re = past neg interaction or less that positive support from this community = which surprises me (aside from Mark's humorous response).  There is = a range of expertise here some tremendously intense as well as = intelligence and certainly opinion and ego.  Anyhow I've been = around here since 2006 and though in some ways I'm a lightweight looper = I've found nothing but support and encouragement from the = community.
 
Again welcome...
=
 
jim
On Mon, = Mar 23, 2009 at 11:30 AM, rico diessner <rico@ricoloop.com> = wrote:
Thanks JIM!

like = your tracks..!

all the best :)
=


On = Mar 23, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Jim Goodin wrote:

Rico welcome, think you will find it a supportive, = informed community, I certainly have and do.
 
=
Jim Goodin
= =


 
On Mon, Mar 23, = 2009 at 10:05 AM, rico diessner <rico@ricoloop.com> wrote:

=
Hi Loopers around the world!

My name is = Rico. I come from Berlin and live on Ibiza.
I am a passionate = looper and i am happy there is such a strong community out there!
=

Thanks to all for making that possible! =  :)

Finally i signed up for the mailing = list.. after 3 years..tssss.  and i am surprised how much it's been = growing!
I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me = (actually some where kinda rude!!!) 
i want to = apologize for my demo wich i gave at the summer NAMM 2006..where i = seemed a little too confident and mentioned that
the RC 50 is = the most powerful looper in the world!  Actually it was a mistake = by me cause i knew there where other
Loop mashines out there = with much more diverse functions..  :) well, thanks for your = understanding!
by the way.. my perfomance in this video = sucked :)

I am happy to join you now and i = will get more into it as i have more time now to share and dwell on our = creativity!

Love and music and i am happy to = hear from you :)

Rico Loop  
=

p.s. who ever feels like... check me out on www.ricoloop.com

=

_ * _ * _ * _ * _ * _ *  _ * _ * _* _ * = _
    =     http:// www.ricoloop.com<= /font>
        =             =  one.man.jam
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The Acoustic World Guitar = of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - = http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainti= ng -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
= Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The= Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin = uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is = published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
=




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music links...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com<= br> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmu= sic
www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic
www.myspace.com/jim= goodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindream
<= a = href=3D"http://www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmu= sic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigi= tal

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmu= sic


= --Apple-Mail-3--302728023-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 23:18:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAFE33BED5; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <19863654-A381-4028-820A-9D84AF6AD207@ricoloop.com> From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <962700.55956.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:18:15 +0100 References: <962700.55956.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]001279 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, Thanks for your kind words:) Yes, it wasnt a good demo! but i tried to improve on that one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSY808iN7WA maybe you like it :) yes, i know.. its great being here.. Thanks and i hope i can make it to a Festival soon! lots of loops and spring!!!!!!! ricO. # On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hey Rico! > Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming aware of you through this > list,and yes i remember some funny comments about your demonstration > and funky moves;-)i must admit i did not think that was a good demo > of the RC 50 capabilities as it was based more on performance(in > fact ive yet to see somebody do a good demo of it) > but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! > I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the loop festivals but > apparently there was no response from you, but now we are glad to > have you here,dont worry we are a good gang and there is always a > lot to be learned here! > Cheers > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > >> From: Bob Amstadt >> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I never posted anything >> about you, but had I seen >> that comment, I might have. ;-) >> >> Seriously though, welcome >> to the list. The >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in the >> world, but if you spend >> any time here, I'm sure you will learn >> that. >> >> Bob Amstadt >> >> ----- Original Message >> ----- >> I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me >> (actually some where >> kinda rude!!!) >> i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave at >> the summer NAMM >> 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned >> that >> the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the >> world! >> > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 23 23:24:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8263BE8E; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:24:17 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20090323232417.319100@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9ab0c76f0903220151j2f1ffbcdg602ee78ce8b04cb0@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903221651t255b21f4w189f8f3713a1be7@mail.gmail.com> <8E0AF6EB-5BEC-463B-9BF1-D80C76822AC6@ricoloop.com> <9e0440a60903230811o56191f17rc82ed3952d75c07f@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60903231430w48d2b7c9odab260534af417f7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/LIvYKNN3LBhqS++GhWEs/lJVd8XOWPKeayabiWN hm5HkVVu1Ut1UesK636Fq4JtKp59QNlWBv7A== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: bm+pLc8da0A7Tch0jjAzbOc/Njh6dE6k X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rico glad you made it to our forum :) A warm welcome (don't be shocked by some stark comments, discussions can get rough occasionally, but people are friendly & good-willed usually ;-) I'm especially happy to have an RC-50 proponent with us on the boat (you're still using it, I assume?). Even if the RC-50 is not the most powerful looper, it has a few surprising tricks. I think we discovered here on the forum features like loop feedback, AB-switching... Good to see you're using the RC-50 in the field so much. again, welcome Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 00:38:02 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C42283BE82; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=gDqwrHvA8ZnHjfPeAK9nQSpOvIA4k3CGbva5hZK7xlM=; b=buZBs8zYiQj0/NdUJRdXeQRlT1WktRCHjo8ATg+HrctovWt7bl6jVo3Aj+2HTJIXQM hw2yoDwFi+aGQjTLFerhUDGBrZoT8AyIZqZVoHY2uzH0eWjCKxYzLy+Suh2G7GF5bx2z JqpBRe6+C6sKpVvKQttRJ1t2VQJDmiJjSrkKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hshu0Kbx/VLFGLnuffwOC9T/hJRIkElGPaiLTwhU431R4BQBJYr8PHOAAKFegtIZjM bYHzGWnUTRxXYxreostkFwhXvTAB8j5uRKGol6YGXKUg93eZspMGreQziIIiUscMVEnX oAwbH6dbcVKySEBISLhcUmUj+mB4tnKl///OU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:38:02 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0903231738j3c58eac0p41eee7de8ca7b339@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Where to find max patch looper examples? From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:38:02 +0000 (UTC) I downloaded the 30 demo of max/msp 5 and so far I have gotten through half of the max and msp tutorials. It's been a great learning experience so far and now I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of some patches that do looping that I could learn from? Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 00:55:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 115CD3BE7F; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=42uSUFyxl8ZotMa0YuPatENOSeQbfWEzAuKFxlYva8A=; b=PMHu7OLYKXZd6L8VTZalERpvESMfEawIQmWCTjnfvMreKOZPdqo92cn1XtVHhatoVY tFgX4LWQeIHqEGCj+iyTW951mNqT21hHgKBgy1dRiC929VvvnLgUVCZHI1EcBOiJBLxH pfs0Pvc8IJoR9KxFyWQ6okwY5j3dfX/Pq4lwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=gdxVoook+HS1CfZZTYkQWYu2ec5qc3sydjzwijD3gQhwAT7cyGfjjw6psGbrVuOZsK u00WaN836De+bsTK7nTQUOFgo6F4Idi/+mbilwuHYYZiwi8qoJJ7tiU/y+V7hnDQn9p8 p45eNy+S1pI6hPYWXjPsOiwpH1xiS3aTfVNfw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:55:47 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903231755j4f39ec2eqff0dcfa70596ba7c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8f1P5D.A.F1F.W-CyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:55:50 +0000 (UTC) > oh! someone got something wrong? No. ;-P (to stay with the use of emoticons here) > i just ment how much the community is been growing! sorry, my english is sometimes not very good ;) No sweat. Frankly, I don't know about statistics with regard to the entire looping community (not necessarily related to this list), although I share your feeling that it has been expanding in recent years. The fact that with the Boss RC-series, the Digitech Jamman and the Line6 JM4 a lot of devices were introduced to the market that did not target the "I got an engineering master's degree and like Stockhausen" audience, but the more normal people, most probably helped here, but this is always an inter-dependency. However, as I remember, you also did a lot of marketing work for the Boss devices, and I'd like to thank you for that. (And this coming from someone who believes Boss' DD20 in delay mode is superior for looping than the entire RC series *g*). The activity on this mailing list, compared to the mentioned "three years ago", has been growing by roughly 18% (based on an average of December to March, witch March 2009 extrapolated assuming constant message rate per day and using the bytes as reported by the LDarchive as a metric) if anyone likes to know. > regarding what was rude.. well, some posts about me in the past about my statements on some video.. > i am not upset at all! just wanted to point out that some are taking stuff too serious.. we are makin music and inspiring each other :) It's fine to see that the rudeness you perceived in some posts dealing e.g. with your "most powerful looper" statements did in fact not upset you, I'm sorry that I got that wrong. Still, I don't believe that we (the "some" you are referring to) are taking stuff too seriously. There is a big difference between taking something serious and not having fun doing it. (And I happen to take music seriously and have fun doing it and get happy from occasionaly inspiring others). > sorry if you felt uncomfortable Rainer.. i make a loop for you :) Offer accepted ;). Like lots of other said: nice to have you aboard here. I'm sure you'll find this a very educative, inspiring and entertaining resource - sometimes getting sneezed at included *g*. Best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 01:09:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B31753BE86; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49C832DC.3030802@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:09:48 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: introducing myself Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:09:52 +0000 (UTC) Rico wrote: "Finally i signed up for the mailing list.. after 3 years..tssss. and i am surprised how much it's been growing! I was surprised finding a lot of post's about me (actually some where kinda rude!!!) i want to apologize for my demo which i gave at the summer NAMM 2006..where i seemed a little too confident and mentioned that the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in the world! Actually it was a mistake by me cause i knew there where other Loop machines out there with much more diverse functions.. :) well, thanks for your understanding! by the way.. my perfomance in this video sucked :) I am happy to join you now and i will get more into it as i have more time now to share and dwell on our creativity!" Welcome, Rico. It's obvious how much you love to loop and it's obvious that you are good at it. We are the stronger to have you in our community and I want to welcome you with open arms. I remember when seeing your demo a few years back that I was impressed with your knowledge. I, confess, I was also one who thought your claims about the RC50 might border on arrogance...........but it also occurred to me that it might also be based on ignorance of other looping solutions. I realized I just didn't know so I've always given you the benefit of the doubt. I just wanted to go on record and say that I really respect your apology for that miscommunication a few years back. It says a lot about you as a human being that you have self awareness and I respect that immensely. So, welcome, welcome, welcome, We are stronger for your presence and I hope you can come play the Y2K9 festival this year where all those who can, gather to celebrate this community and to share our knowledge and creativity. Yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 02:04:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E439B3BE7C; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237860291; bh=6r15uIbFRwHJBtJYsLw31M0ffGNPn8TiTiWQUxtKr3Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=P1b+L2T8mmugJzrnfuen08GNygHdRM6TSuulSBrFc9corvgGRZrsvEgfvIDrdJLJJNiymKRzU8POZBgZNQaN7HTIVJGh5NgX7fVvI89Qgw3ZOfnQo/yL9a2t30dYLHZx4/REEzDYLbDM/mwycWZs3cGVZNlWysccySAOJ08ULVs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KNW2D4bNCtpg47x5hhVzh8Di8adMnR80JFA/jimfO/5+zoU1FytiaGxOuHs7feNVJNtUr28w+KHn+IVieUi1gg8jsRND19xWfalOkPfGYACu3AhR85wrWg93lVvpOFVqUnhIJDcn/pT7EEY8c0//kH7PX3/TWjmBFLWAtb3/3w4=; Message-ID: <576497.49356.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lGm.j_QVM1nlNlPqrFr1IPpqLFFetP4IS8fmVvvsXcERIQ_BmNRlfln_hNM.Q2iSEagbltNSL.rKHW2CNMiQVy1UcP7XyXn6WuQj9y8XUyt2kOxSprYkbMMUIWk7E0QAVF7A_3qALib2ViJYyjjpcvMa5dpXcmU6SA5_Wyoo0lm3bkVPsYKSBIBBj9UiLQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:04:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: introducing myself :) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:04:52 +0000 (UTC) that link didnt work man but i like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRsTEuLhEZsQ&feature=3DPlayList&p=3D8E2F300= 7DB008BE2&playnext=3D1&playnext_from=3DPL&index=3D13 thats it brother somebody finally gotta get them mothefucke beach girls rock on you on your way to the top Rico!=20 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/23/09, rico diessner wrote: > From: rico diessner > Subject: Re: introducing myself :) > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM > Hi Luis, >=20 > Thanks for your kind words:) > Yes, it wasnt a good demo! > but i tried to improve on that one: >=20 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFSY808iN7WA >=20 > maybe you like it :) >=20 > yes, i know.. its great being here.. Thanks and i hope i > can make it to a Festival soon! >=20 > lots of loops and spring!!!!!!! >=20 > ricO. > # > On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > Hey Rico! > > Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming aware of > you through this list,and yes i remember some funny comments > about your demonstration and funky moves;-)i must admit i > did not think that was a good demo of the RC 50 capabilities > as it was based more on performance(in fact ive yet to see > somebody do a good demo of it) > > but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! > > I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the loop > festivals but apparently there was no response from you, but > now we are glad to have you here,dont worry we are a good > gang and there is always a lot to be learned here! > > Cheers > > Luis > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >=20 > >=20 > > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt > wrote: > >=20 > >> From: Bob Amstadt > >> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >>=20 > >> I never posted anything > >> about you, but had I seen > >> that comment, I might have. ;-) > >>=20 > >> Seriously though, welcome > >> to the list.=A0 The > >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in > the > >> world, but if you spend > >> any time here, I'm sure you will learn > >> that. > >>=20 > >> Bob Amstadt > >>=20 > >>=A0 ----- Original Message > >> ----- > >>=A0 I was surprised finding a lot of post's > about me > >> (actually some where > >>=A0 kinda rude!!!) > >>=A0 i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave > at > >> the summer NAMM > >>=A0 2006..where i seemed a little too confident > and mentioned > >> that > >>=A0 the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in > the > >> world! > >>=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 03:02:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B35FE3BE7F; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vzAbdaYNoh6+xM3Mq9PHODq71ppelKyv161x9RmTSBo=; b=sE/rGoWTId9zoyQU7vWjqJ3k83j5Kv2yaPpRqLZfGu2RFRr4nuosXIf3ZUc81lqJY1 d7Z+Xkc70OVmMYKQGmImyheKHDhR027LFPdsblQFBimmPfRLJf/7xkHAhQcMSWV+dAkr kAGqdnUOuanu4tpimV6UOQJ9CWKwPhLBed0bc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=DmCRTilp0LE2zgeJ7b0srzikX7XIXFEaIVKt7C7YU1vW2RB1PDqfaUMAGNrtgu0YdC v+Ya9NZnntnQYzkaOH9vmgcVjMZHAKtgM34lbE/vpjhn1y01Q3vOLLqG85UMMoCF4DWI xp7K/x6xKyORLq7ERawkTqEilIGT5i7wfAm84= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <576497.49356.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <576497.49356.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:02:26 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903232002h3149fabek549fe3d05b1079b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e50aeb88d40465d49c55 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:02:27 +0000 (UTC) --00151750e50aeb88d40465d49c55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rico despite all today I'd say you've been 'embraced' in several ways by this community. THat all said I'm just now getting to listening to your sample trax on your main dot.com and I really like wohin du willst andkinderaugen a lot, good energy and ideas. wohin... very organic to me which is where I tend to go. Anyhow good stuff and how you say 'vie ghetz' is it, a year of german about a thousand years ago and hope I said 'how goes it' or did I say the your mother looks like a ... (jokes! I hope). Greetings from Brooklyn, Jim On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:04 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > that link didnt work man > but i like this one > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsTEuLhEZsQ&feature=PlayList&p=8E2F3007DB008BE2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13 > > thats it brother somebody finally gotta get them mothefucke beach girls > rock on you on your way to the top Rico! > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, rico diessner wrote: > > > From: rico diessner > > Subject: Re: introducing myself :) > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM > > Hi Luis, > > > > Thanks for your kind words:) > > Yes, it wasnt a good demo! > > but i tried to improve on that one: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSY808iN7WA > > > > maybe you like it :) > > > > yes, i know.. its great being here.. Thanks and i hope i > > can make it to a Festival soon! > > > > lots of loops and spring!!!!!!! > > > > ricO. > > # > > On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Rico! > > > Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming aware of > > you through this list,and yes i remember some funny comments > > about your demonstration and funky moves;-)i must admit i > > did not think that was a good demo of the RC 50 capabilities > > as it was based more on performance(in fact ive yet to see > > somebody do a good demo of it) > > > but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! > > > I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the loop > > festivals but apparently there was no response from you, but > > now we are glad to have you here,dont worry we are a good > > gang and there is always a lot to be learned here! > > > Cheers > > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt > > wrote: > > > > > >> From: Bob Amstadt > > >> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) > > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I never posted anything > > >> about you, but had I seen > > >> that comment, I might have. ;-) > > >> > > >> Seriously though, welcome > > >> to the list. The > > >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in > > the > > >> world, but if you spend > > >> any time here, I'm sure you will learn > > >> that. > > >> > > >> Bob Amstadt > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message > > >> ----- > > >> I was surprised finding a lot of post's > > about me > > >> (actually some where > > >> kinda rude!!!) > > >> i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave > > at > > >> the summer NAMM > > >> 2006..where i seemed a little too confident > > and mentioned > > >> that > > >> the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in > > the > > >> world! > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --00151750e50aeb88d40465d49c55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rico despite all today I'd say you've been 'embraced' in se= veral ways by this community. =A0THat all said I'm just now getting to = listening to your sample trax on your main dot.c= om and I really like=A0wohin du willst=A0and
kinderaugen=A0a lot, good energy and ideas. =A0woh= in... very organic to me which is where I tend to go.

Anyhow good stuff and how you say 'vie ghetz' is it, a year of = german about a thousand years ago and hope I said 'how goes it' or = did I say the your mother looks like a ... (jokes! I hope).

Greetings from= Brooklyn, Jim

On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:04 PM, L.Angulo = <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

that link didnt work man
but i like this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRsTEuLhEZsQ&am= p;feature=3DPlayList&p=3D8E2F3007DB008BE2&playnext=3D1&playnext= _from=3DPL&index=3D13

thats it brother somebody finally gotta get them mothefucke beach girls
rock on you on your way to the top Rico!


www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Mon, 3/23/09, rico diessner <rico@ricoloop.com> wrote:

> From: rico diessner <rico@rico= loop.com>
> Subject: Re: introducing myself :)
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM
> Hi Luis,
>
> Thanks for your kind words:)
> Yes, it wasnt a good demo!
> but i tried to improve on that one:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFSY808iN7WA
>
> maybe you like it :)
>
> yes, i know.. its great being here.. Thanks and i hope i
> can make it to a Festival soon!
>
> lots of loops and spring!!!!!!!
>
> ricO.
> #
> On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote:
>
> >
> > Hey Rico!
> > Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming aware of
> you through this list,and yes i remember some funny comments
> about your demonstration and funky moves;-)i must admit i
> did not think that was a good demo of the RC 50 capabilities
> as it was based more on performance(in fact ive yet to see
> somebody do a good demo of it)
> > but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered!
> > I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the loop
> festivals but apparently there was no response from you, but
> now we are glad to have you here,dont worry we are a good
> gang and there is always a lot to be learned here!
> > Cheers
> > Luis
> >
> >
> >
> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom
> >
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt <bob@amstadt.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Bob Amstadt <bob@= amstadt.com>
> >> Subject: Re: introducing myself :)
> >> To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I never posted anything
> >> about you, but had I seen
> >> that comment, I might have. ;-)
> >>
> >> Seriously though, welcome
> >> to the list.=A0 The
> >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in
> the
> >> world, but if you spend
> >> any time here, I'm sure you will learn
> >> that.
> >>
> >> Bob Amstadt
> >>
> >>=A0 ----- Original Message
> >> -----
> >>=A0 I was surprised finding a lot of post's
> about me
> >> (actually some where
> >>=A0 kinda rude!!!)
> >>=A0 i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave
> at
> >> the summer NAMM
> >>=A0 2006..where i seemed a little too confident
> and mentioned
> >> that
> >>=A0 the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in
> the
> >> world!
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>







--
The Acousti= c World Guitar of Jim Goodin =A0- http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
--00151750e50aeb88d40465d49c55-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 03:27:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B80C3BE86; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <22376.69.73.1237865246.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:27:26 -0400 (AST) Subject: Drum and Bass Looping From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Heavy Duty! http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mods/multimedia/2009/03/gallery_instruments?slide=11&slideView=10 http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 05:16:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 507F03BE75; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4135 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:16:53 UTC Message-ID: <7574E043B1614030838439E63F2106C3@MichaelPC> From: To: References: <22376.69.73.1237865246.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <22376.69.73.1237865246.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: OT High tech removing of clicks, crackles and pops Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:16:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:16:54 +0000 (UTC) I'm having an interesting phenomenon when recording vocals on my laptop where sometime my track has a quick click/crackle/pop. It looks like the wave forms become deranged alittle for a few milliseconds. Any thoughts on: A. Origins? B. Ways to eliminate from good tracks with cool tools? (so far standard "noise removal tools" have not worked-perhaps becasue the noise seems almost to ride on the wave form perhaps?) Thanks for your thoughts! ~peace~ Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 05:22:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A0413BE8E; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: To: Cc: Subject: Western Music's Universal Appeal Explained Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:07:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C9AC0C.340B4A70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 05:22:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C9AC0C.340B4A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting study on Western Music http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/090320-universal-music.ht= ml?source=3Drss ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C9AC0C.340B4A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting study on Western=20 Music
 
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/= 090320-universal-music.html?source=3Drss ------=_NextPart_000_00A6_01C9AC0C.340B4A70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 06:18:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B383BE7C; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pCDOSliAprUjnpnJH8rcPIJGd6tFig+5kHyE/kiPSPo=; b=K3xVJ57NTXbylDYoFQAgylmRKqNGw38728qH+gkhyZP2C0MMIyv/MG/Kg4+DbURqoh aBckqm0tU38eUExytPCSO20LzwpzgEYD4Lq2Lmugubm0cgN0MnLNj76xlHkzm9jtcihu biL5yKP8df2IRUItyI5vHMs6iOfiLMxXvkQAs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=S/VWTpOVeHu3m6un+0IpwxBBYIFstzugDBc0qKmcK3qDaZUcU1Uzxp1Lj8UNiUn7W+ he2n8GmT53M6ZuCPlmPl1XI/rnCA0BHFlj69/IMJc5K5Ftu4trZ3eiTrIRzH7qk1Dlg2 vu1AJSWj3PCeVxOooBBZB5wwZDsZMJkAOyu1o= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ian.e.petersen@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <001101c9abdd$87987ed0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> References: <001101c9abdd$87987ed0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:18:42 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: d5b8175a6b92b005 Message-ID: Subject: Re: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio From: Ian Petersen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a345d581500465d75a6c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:18:45 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a345d581500465d75a6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael, what I'm dreaming of in the moment is a VSTi (say, a drum machine) that > takes your > audio (not your midi), tries to find rhythmic elements, and creates a > groove > based on them > I know this seems to be my answer to everything, but if you don't mind a bit of DIY, then you could fairly easily buld something like this in Usine. Starting with something like this: http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku.php?id=addons:analysis:tempo_detector#tempo_detector Usine itself can run as a VST in another host. Ian --001636c5a345d581500465d75a6c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Michael,

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what I'm=A0dreaming of in the moment i= s a VSTi (say, a drum machine) that takes your
audio (not your midi), tries to find rhythmic elements, and creates a groov= e
based on them

I know this seems to be my a= nswer to everything, but if you don't mind a bit of DIY, then you could= fairly easily buld something like this in Usine. Starting with something l= ike this:=A0http://www.sensomusic.com/wiki/doku= .php?id=3Daddons:analysis:tempo_detector#tempo_detector

Usine itself can run as a VST in another host.

Ian
--001636c5a345d581500465d75a6c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 06:21:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2A953BE80; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49C87BFF.8030708@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:21:51 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT High tech removing of clicks, crackles and pops References: <22376.69.73.1237865246.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <17123832.1237872346582.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <17123832.1237872346582.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:21:56 +0000 (UTC) mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > I'm having an interesting phenomenon when recording vocals on my > laptop where sometime my track has a quick click/crackle/pop. It > looks like the wave forms become deranged alittle for a few milliseconds. > > Any thoughts on: > A. Origins? > B. Ways to eliminate from good tracks with cool tools? (so far > standard "noise removal tools" have not worked-perhaps becasue the > noise seems almost to ride on the wave form perhaps?) Yes. Some DAW software need a higher buffer setting when recording to prevent such glitches. For serious mixing, you can reset your buffer size to a lower setting again. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 07:18:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 832C23BE7E; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:18:45 UTC Message-id: <49C87B38.8070209@soundscapes.us> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:18:32 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio References: <22364297.1237829649920.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <22364297.1237829649920.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: > I've already included an audio-2-midi vst in some of my setups, ... > Hi Michael, I have an old Roland VP-70 that will do pitch-to-MIDI conversion and have been thinking about integrating it into my rig. Do you mean to tell me that there is a VSTi out there that will do this? Please tell me its name so I can google for it or look it up at KVR. Thanks! Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 07:36:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B76D3BE77; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 171425287/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.222.104/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.222.104 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap4BAHsqyElPTt5o/2dsb2JhbAAI0X+DdgaHKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,411,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="171425287" Message-ID: <49C88F92.1040105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:45:22 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT High tech removing of clicks, crackles and pops References: <22376.69.73.1237865246.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <7574E043B1614030838439E63F2106C3@MichaelPC> In-Reply-To: <7574E043B1614030838439E63F2106C3@MichaelPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Adobe Audition (aka Cool Edit) has a "Remove single click" tool which will do that. (also lets you see that clicks easily in "Spectral View" ) andy butler mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > I'm having an interesting phenomenon when recording vocals on my laptop > where sometime my track has a quick click/crackle/pop. It looks like > the wave forms become deranged alittle for a few milliseconds. > > Any thoughts on: > A. Origins? > B. Ways to eliminate from good tracks with cool tools? (so far standard > "noise removal tools" have not worked-perhaps becasue the noise seems > almost to ride on the wave form perhaps?) > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > ~peace~ > > Plish > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 08:00:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF003BE79; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:00:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49C8930F.8060505@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 02:00:15 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Western Music's Universal Appeal Explained References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:00:20 +0000 (UTC) "We played them some extreme rock-and-roll from The Ventures." Whoa. Extreme. Goodness knows what kind of riots might break out if they played them, like, "Surfin' Bird" or "Wooly Bully". or Dick Dale, ferrget it! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Interesting study on Western Music > > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/090320-universal-music.html?source=rss From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 08:10:52 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A6FF3BE7C; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <66f9cc1e0903231516m78ca511ah51ced52df1374680@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:10:44 +0100 Message-ID: <007101c9ac58$0845a010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmsTOjpTA71Ej7ISIeBoX5dX80BcgACejPg In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903231516m78ca511ah51ced52df1374680@mail.gmail.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.120; VDF: 7.1.2.202) Resent-Message-ID: <0-jN4.A.EsC.MWJyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:10:52 +0000 (UTC) > FXpansion makes GURU that analyzes a loop saved to the hard > drive and slices it up into short elements that are distributed as > sound sources for a drum sampler run by a MIDI sequencer. actually I'm not even thinking of loops. I know there are computer programs that can play interactively with a live musician, probably based on rules for complexity, volume, pitch, etc. I would guess that there are max patches that can do that to some extent. Probably this is too complex to put into a VST box. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 10:57:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 820843BE7C; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:57:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 171503556/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.222.104/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.222.104 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AsQBAFpZyElPTt5o/2dsb2JhbAAIj3DCaIN2Bocq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,412,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="171503556" Message-ID: <49C8BECD.8040100@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:06:53 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Western Music's Universal Appeal(sic) Explained OT References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:57:40 +0000 (UTC) hmm, statistical analysis on a sample size of 21. strange how that can pass for science these days. here's more info http://www.world-science.net/othernews/090320_music The skew that this shows that Western music has something special appears to be made up by Nat Geo. andy butler mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Interesting study on Western Music > > http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2009/03/090320-universal-music.html?source=rss From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 11:16:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F2C3BE7E; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 168637606/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.222.104/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.222.104 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArMBANxdyElPTt5o/2dsb2JhbAAI0l+DdgaHKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,412,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="168637606" Message-ID: <49C8C321.9020704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:25:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio References: <66f9cc1e0903231516m78ca511ah51ced52df1374680@mail.gmail.com> <007101c9ac58$0845a010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <007101c9ac58$0845a010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:16:03 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: >> FXpansion makes GURU that analyzes a loop saved to the hard >> drive and slices it up into short elements that are distributed as >> sound sources for a drum sampler run by a MIDI sequencer. > > actually I'm not even thinking of loops. I know there are computer programs > that can play interactively with a live musician, probably based on rules > for complexity, volume, pitch, etc. I would guess that there are max patches > that can do that to some extent. In which case, it's possible in Bidule. some ideas here:- http://www.plogue.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1733 You have a real advantage that you want to use it for drums, so there's no need to analyse pitch. A lot depends on how you want to play in order to "tell" your drummer what the tempo is. >Probably this is too complex to put into a > VST box. > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 13:58:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8631D3BE79; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237903125; bh=qBHjSChI/uTUlvDDYe09QRP2eBxxUsdJEPBtX49mgtc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LpIQUJaxthEZISjAQbBBzgYOETr3YRu+XORMUCEe2onhHYpK7mUGc/KQuOA6DiEt11mG+Iaot0Xgj9FyBVYdMe65R5+INRK5le63aa0XClB9QlD7WO87VdzxYspSDa+GnsOEilKpzitMQTvosUJGVBRwi5LA5yuiU8Tme6uGh/g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0SLE6qR1X6fLEsfrkPAe3+Hof7p8y4cBedQCAUkRkYZ62tOWEgTQk5QUhRUjkiOEbqBw+/ojyyj/l2Ra1CVyu+VK8yLJOk6skiIUVrJWdb+HAnK3o6sjnKpCqzpbjgEprJhxh5FVNzxwdjGWZHICaq42YNe823NPc0mnmfKuHLw=; Message-ID: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VeYEW1gVM1n6Ff1hYTsaIaqAysJNWXnh0DykZ2QjBszS8DWZvcuJb3B_RN5JVB1a.q7eSWXsOeJuOsyAFdTy9TyaRTYtCDo1keVxOL.3f7Ste_uupoGhGlqXLNCuNwB4.NecT1mW49q_4EIkzLTcQk2NqqRZns9V_0UuYLa1n6fLnvth9Smm2s03cnK8tfm73qE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 06:58:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: do any slave sync? To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:58:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi people, Here is the absurd question of the year: Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync when being slaved? Is this hopeless? from all of the ones ive tried all of them drifted with time,the only one i never got to try this way was the LP1.I understand that our timing imperfections are part of it but there has to be a way! I was so happy when the Eventide timefactor came out and bought the adrenalinn thinking i could have 2 stomps with midi in and out and accomplish this but no such luck either;-( cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 14:06:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E81853BE75; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:06:15 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=Q+U5aW85TIVrHFgPo/Ld1m/iIz34pSE45qAbf6LwIbfrHA3AcsioZ+lK9Lf1Lu20cMVHU28FUzdbvakbo1dUH0lQInk2RRq1sttTsKlxpFI3syRdGoGjlqjxkzVPD6Hy; Message-ID: <20090324085934.og544fhvk0k0kwwc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:59:34 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Western Music's Universal Appeal Explained References: <49C8930F.8060505@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <49C8930F.8060505@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {3864:box516.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Daryl Shawn : > "We played them some extreme rock-and-roll from The Ventures." > > Whoa. Extreme. Goodness knows what kind of riots might break out if > they played them, like, "Surfin' Bird" or "Wooly Bully". or Dick Dale, > ferrget it! > HaHa! Good catch, Daryl. Yep, tunes like "Hawaii Five-O" are pretty extreme! But... and this is the big question ... did they play the music backwards? :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 14:26:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E1D43BE71; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1237904767; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=FTxZzAESFxxdyFFoaOU9qDLuDlo=; b=LNW1eE6MTJjbrwKB4PPy+/HY/mFwUwDDmd2LF5mYmQhEaNnXslnlvWtnE9Y9taDP buR7RVK6EteLUe/9GpyTAqSBlTUN9k5t+fSGkHgNyKQ/t4HooBl3PxTJKSEpw54j; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=5EV6B9PacS7DNL3uOysA:9 a=OEeGBuRiSlEr6fCGchdmZIaUv-EA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9ac8c$7ce1edf0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: do any slave sync? Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:26:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Hey Luis, I use the Electro Harmonix 2880 and it slaves fine. The only thing is when slaved you can't use octave down. Also when reversing the loop and back it will wallow when slaved until you restart it. As long as I am just doing looping/layering it works ok. I don't use it with midi often but it works with my Boss DR 670 as master or slave. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:58 AM Subject: do any slave sync? > > Hi people, > Here is the absurd question of the year: > Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync when being slaved? > Is this hopeless? from all of the ones ive tried all of them drifted with > time,the only one i never got to try this way was the LP1.I understand > that our timing imperfections are part of it but there has to be a way! > I was so happy when the Eventide timefactor came out and bought the > adrenalinn thinking i could have 2 stomps with midi in and out and > accomplish this but no such luck either;-( > cheers > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 14:26:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 796703BE81; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:26:31 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:do any slave sync? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:26:33 +0000 (UTC) > Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync when being slaved?= In general, syncing a short delay effect with a master midi clock works f= ine. Syncing multiple loopers, long delays or a looper and a drummachine usual= ly don't sync well. After a while, you will notice they're often drifting= . Arpeggiators have the same problem. I'm just guessing but one of the ca= uses could be the way the manufacturer has implemented the synchronisatio= n protocol: imo a slave device should re-sync itself after a certain time= , but I have the impression they sync their own clock with the master clo= ck and that's it. --- Sjaak http://euroloopfest.com/ http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://www.last.fm/music/Sjaak+Overgaauw __________________________________ Scarlet schrapt download limiet! ADSL20 NO LIMIT voor =80 29,95. Ga naar www.scarlet.be voor meer info! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 14:29:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 135D93BE7C; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=aCNH32YW2Xkg3Dhu/d4pcy2WoGfR0pYnIbXByIpGG2g=; b=YqKq3I24F22RdEHTwFpz4TfW+WQovU705j2VJ7FhQOaGXexRnrK0Jl0uBt9JEKIe9C JFOg7izCKqk+SGatwXRp5KeBXQE0xHD1NwvQQD2XF7aRNjVw9rhsvSrW70y1CkmDKKvu So4ldsYiVvjboOnkMuTlk1IZYO5w/9Ee05IJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Rvf22HE22dJqgIzuZdpwfHwGu9htkpO86t1UXf27wZYG2ZOjs5aUOu3eeIhKkJgnCZ hig9N56BpQk+czfi3XVCq+mwxbENBG/J3HZfTYv92sC2nnULthZ4KIKmlx7zWEUQOcUR mOBMi/zZQX/ZRgJrE93QJfxe0hSqMLixFL5kg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49C88F92.1040105@tiscali.co.uk> References: <22376.69.73.1237865246.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <7574E043B1614030838439E63F2106C3@MichaelPC> <49C88F92.1040105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:29:01 -0700 Message-ID: <9ff9c5d10903240729n3b67b993h4c3b4a43b319822c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT High tech removing of clicks, crackles and pops From: Nic Roozeboom To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e1dc4789310465de343e Resent-Message-ID: <0f51Z.A.JjH.u4OyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:29:02 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2e1dc4789310465de343e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also, SoundSoap. Nic On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:45 AM, andy butler wrote: > Adobe Audition (aka Cool Edit) has a "Remove single click" tool which > will do that. > (also lets you see that clicks easily in "Spectral View" ) > > andy butler > > > > mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > >> I'm having an interesting phenomenon when recording vocals on my laptop >> where sometime my track has a quick click/crackle/pop. It looks like the >> wave forms become deranged alittle for a few milliseconds. >> >> Any thoughts on: >> A. Origins? >> B. Ways to eliminate from good tracks with cool tools? (so far standard >> "noise removal tools" have not worked-perhaps becasue the noise seems almost >> to ride on the wave form perhaps?) >> >> Thanks for your thoughts! >> >> ~peace~ >> >> Plish >> >> >> >> > -- Nic Roozeboom http://www.fractal-continuum.com http://www.cdbaby.com/all/fractal http://www.myspace.com/fractalcontinuum http://www.myspace.com/nicroozeboom http://fractal.bebo.com/ --000e0cd2e1dc4789310465de343e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, SoundSoap.

Nic

On Tue, Mar 2= 4, 2009 at 12:45 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Adobe Audition (aka Cool Edit) has a "Remove single click" tool w= hich
will do that.
(also lets you see that clicks easily in "Spectral View" )

andy butler



mike@michaelpl= ishka.com wrote:
I'm having an interesting phenomenon when recording vocals on my laptop= where sometime my track has a quick click/crackle/pop. =A0It looks like th= e wave forms become deranged alittle for a few milliseconds.

Any thoughts on:
A. Origins?
B. Ways to eliminate from good tracks with cool tools? (so far standard &qu= ot;noise removal tools" have not worked-perhaps becasue the noise seem= s almost to ride on the wave form perhaps?)

Thanks for your thoughts!

~peace~

Plish







--
Nic Roozebo= om

http://www.fractal-c= ontinuum.com
http://ww= w.cdbaby.com/all/fractal
http://www.myspace.com/= fractalcontinuum
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--000e0cd2e1dc4789310465de343e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 14:35:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F3523BE97; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:34:59 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <9ff9c5d10903240729n3b67b993h4c3b4a43b319822c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090324143459.137260@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <22376.69.73.1237865246.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <7574E043B1614030838439E63F2106C3@MichaelPC> <49C88F92.1040105@tiscali.co.uk> <9ff9c5d10903240729n3b67b993h4c3b4a43b319822c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT High tech removing of clicks, crackles and pops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/MqOEjzn7M3LB2JpfEdot3ugAWDNGKGrf4yTSRqd 4sP8OyEdWC7YasCaCCxsogyzefXFTRiBdbmw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ptbwfKJGbmwoINtpkzZLRM9PUzc4cpHj X-FuHaFi: 0.82 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:35:04 +0000 (UTC) Oh, thinking of this... This might have actually added artefacts to an otherwise perfectly clear recording with Logic... I will see if I need to tweak the buffer settings. Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 14:40:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 179AC3BE8C; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: Subject: Re: Re:do any slave sync? Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:40:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <1Pb7RB.A.6J.PDPyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:40:15 +0000 (UTC) I can't speak for the others, but I can speak for the LP1. I test the MIDI slave function of the LP1 by running a drum machine into the LP1 (audio and MIDI). Then I record the drum machine into a loop and let it play with the LP1. Now I have two devices playing the exact same music. I have left the LP1 like this for hours with no drift. The two stay locked except for a small phasing effect because there is no way to get the two audio signals perfectly in sync. Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 14:59:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D8303BE89; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:59:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237906745; bh=QF6rq5SmaL8TiatDY9zsrkWuSUcyo+Sep9HPcfy8NGM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qov2TcTtkcmgFdsBrve7v/+WsFbkUussOFipiDz824qRe4P0lpvjcN1Mj1/iSIPYCjW1+U/+xgQ2WpfMWW3OUAkcr4lwHPcON+il/wxlRlauaaUG/BmbvSMdt3mnK9ZfrawZsxw7VzFSoWWy1AR6BMdSTs+qrvT+8HzfKH2nLwk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Bgd2r0MmR5e8/D3prxuCTvdzsH4DorWZle5gan+5JY3Fh6gDQkInpfdFqKvcgIQrQLdaflCJDLuTIr8iEVhbLINUHBA0zszTxJfKCKF2BWG7hlLX3ri9oxCbyQjjKObzNY/3HD7C7asQC7G4R7hxmlCCNhHk19/XeoiElsV3PfI=; Message-ID: <312422.72936.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5qHvPRAVM1kOE4f2P5IZ.rnUA69rM6.W2dWyFItr0UHUw9POvMCt9_HZHHtVnzTt8iWdVS.bWbJV.QQDTDbiDaJJvbv5KL1BjyutOdRPMkrAG9QRYDxG67XAP..oSJETP.A7hRYF1ArUCtmhdfLfQiCR8XDatGubVEMsJpBNUDpJzxWOFBEuF4en126FJA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 07:59:04 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: OT: adrenalinn help To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-304993157-1237906744=:72936" Resent-Message-ID: <5zQC.A.L1.6UPyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:59:06 +0000 (UTC) --0-304993157-1237906744=:72936 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii thanks for the info/help on the adrenalinn. i've had a few days to get used to it and i'm liking it more. and i do like the drum patterns, some interesting and different things to work w/ than my digitech and zoom have. i think it just took me a few days to get used to it's sound, and i've put it at the beginning of my chain of effects, and i've found it sounds better when i remove a few things from the signal chain in bypass-i probably need to do that more!!!! s---- --0-304993157-1237906744=:72936 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
thanks for the info/help on the adrenalinn.
i've had a few days to get used to it and i'm liking it more. and i do like the drum patterns, some interesting and different things to work w/ than my digitech and zoom have.
i think it just took me a few days to get used to it's sound, and i've put it at the beginning of my chain of effects, and i've found it sounds better when i remove a few things from the signal chain in bypass-i probably need to do that more!!!!
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--0-304993157-1237906744=:72936-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 15:13:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9773BE8F; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <49C87B38.8070209@soundscapes.us> Subject: RE: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:13:52 +0100 Message-ID: <002c01c9ac93$24585af0$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmsjV5Wy8ufcqOZRyypTqJKMcWHbgABayAg In-Reply-To: <49C87B38.8070209@soundscapes.us> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.45; AVE: 8.2.0.120; VDF: 7.1.2.207) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:13:54 +0000 (UTC) > I have an old Roland VP-70 that will do pitch-to-MIDI conversion and > have been thinking about integrating it into my rig. Do you mean to > tell me that there is a VSTi out there that will do this? > Please tell me its name so I can google for it or look it up at KVR. Thanks! > Cheers, > Bill Widisoft -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 17:03:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A9213BE7F; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.73] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Is That Jazz Festival Video Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:03:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0323_01C9AC70.2B0E1E70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 17:03:34.0010 (UTC) FILETIME=[7720FDA0:01C9ACA2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:03:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0323_01C9AC70.2B0E1E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I finally got around to "trying" to produce a video of my performance at = the Is That Jazz Experimental Music Festival in Seatte, WA, January = 2009. They had someone recording the whole show camera. (MP3 version: = http://www.box.net/shared/a0gxc61yzq ) However, I struggled for too many hours attemping to sync this direct = recording with the video, with no luck. They were not aligned (off by 3 = or so seconds), and I'm just not competent enough with this technology = to sync them. I tried altering the length of my direct recording and I = managed to sync it in my editing program, but then when I exported it to = windows media or mpeg, the exported file would be out of sync...strange. = I give up.=20 Is anyone really good at this? I'll pay someone to do it. I can provide = the source video file and the wav of my direct recording. I only need = the first song in video format.=20 Kris Kris Hartung www.krispenhartung.com info@krispenhartung.com ------=_NextPart_000_0323_01C9AC70.2B0E1E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I finally got around to "trying" = to produce=20 a video of my performance at the Is That Jazz Experimental Music = Festival=20 in Seatte, WA, January 2009.  They had someone recording the whole = show=20 camera.  (MP3 version: http://www.box.net/shared/a= 0gxc61yzq )
 
However, I struggled for too many hours = attemping=20 to sync this direct recording with the video, with no luck. They = were not=20 aligned (off by 3 or so seconds), and I'm just not competent enough with = this=20 technology to sync them. I tried altering the length of my direct = recording and=20 I managed to sync it in my editing program, but then when I exported it = to=20 windows media or mpeg, the exported file would be out of sync...strange. = I give=20 up.
 
Is anyone really good at this?  = I'll pay=20 someone to do it. I can provide the source video file and the wav of my = direct=20 recording.  I only need the first song in video format. =
 
Kris
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0323_01C9AC70.2B0E1E70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 17:29:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFD4B3BE7E; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ciipgFT9eXPvcgmMVGcOIzX9tckBCeH9fzlN1OgBeiI=; b=CFhBPELhCaXU/MXxcr+mOXZ9prHWbdTiy3u60mb0tSOaNYMH4t1cCNpxedj01fF7vx vIBJyFuZ6iqAZeYHZ+MORDge09s2ck9U/jCkCowg3nrIQs5jqg2wxPNIiBgNbbAcdWWG 8RSZhFutAsPVA4VFvI7jCHe0dgxQTVhAquRtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=AVreqiW7b45LkWso9/nYrLaXeKtDgpfch9Si1BKeZ/7enzBn6LfoOfnu+kRWQpyCgl 2p+kY4rQw9Svsj66IGwxfi/onBjPyYZ8RRCNr2HQRynFb5B9Q/rJvhbIc7ZRSLg65cco MjLRPu8R1j7rH4LJTzg2XnF7ca8ePuamfouX8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:29:05 +0100 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903241029n6c35c76brfe15b0f3f7a36fce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: re: do any slave sync? From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Luis, this thread is incredibly funny insofar as the "re:" added to the subject line by the email programme of the first guy who responded got me confused at first, because I read "redo any slave sync?" - I beg your pardon? ;) However, to the sensible part: > Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync when being slaved? Seriously, none should "drift with time" as you mention, because the definition of being slaved is that they do not drift with time. ("Syncing" here meaning that the slave receives a steady stream of timing information from the master (e.g. MIDI Clock, MTC) and changes its internal time base so it is aligned with it. So even if this process may happen with some flaws, and devices may loose the master-slave relationship, as long as the slave is a slave of the master, what you describe would not happen. So consequently, this may mean that the master-slave relationship got lost?) Things I noticed, however (not necessarily with loopers): 1. some devices tend to have a steady offset with regard to the device they are synced to. This can be explained very easily, simply because the MIDI sync signal takes its time for being generated, routed and interpreted. For that reason, some e.g. drum computers and also software programs have a setting to compensate for this offset. So if you do not change your system, you can bring that offset to zero. However, this will never lead to the devices drifting, they just are a little off in perfect sync. Bob, you also mentioned sync experiments you conducted with the LP1. Does the LP1 also have the aforementioned kind of "clock delay compensation" setting? 2. some devices (both master and slave) tend to jitter, e.g. increase or decrease speed by a small amount. While this may have ugly effects (mainly depending on how the slave reacts to it - the Repeater at least in sw 1.x had a very jittery clock, but did sync fairly well as a slave - see below, which led to some MIDI-synced delay effects, e.g. of the Roland VBass producing ugly clicks), this would also not lead to them drifting apart (as long as the devices stay locked). Summarizing: what you describe (if I understand it correctly) looks like the devices completely loose sync. My experience with hardware loopers in this regard: the only hardware looper I ever owned (and still own) is the Repeater (only used SW 1.x so far). It would sync just fine in the majority of cases, however, there were situations when I lost sync, most prominently when I hit "Slow CFC" on a non-Hitachi-controller CFC. In one (documented on my "Neinnein auf dem kleinen Weg" album, recorded live in Desenzano at a concert organized by Luca Formentini) event, the Repeater was synced (I never used it as a master because of its crappy clock, see above) to a Quasimidi Sirius. In the midst of a (half-hour-long) song, the Repeater would loose sync suddenly and stop playback. I tried to restart it, and succeeded. However, before and after that (and on any other occasion I can remember), the two (or other two, like MC505 and Repeater or Eclipse and Repeater) stayed in sync just fine. Best, Rainer --- http://moinlabs.de http://www.myspace.com/moinlabs http://video.google.de/videosearch?q=moinlabs http://www.jamendo.com/en/artist/straschill/ http://Kunaki.com/MSales.asp?PublisherId=117329 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 17:39:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81A1E3BE82; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1gW2OsOzWjdXy4BCNrvIISJcMdgJQdU6q8Dk5xKGmAU=; b=X+PLYa/p0mRYb5PnFtY9vRwZ7YVhoCw+vougqgsHTbr0u5ZrGq5lOIdxiXyxL+IBum +uB/E/PlzcxRCm6A54A4ti4DOAzTEDHFn8jfNYPvLW4NtWIlk6z5QfiEvMR0wVXPlRM7 UpQ7PZkd4s6AYpwhVLSymiFRoozjAifRJphwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qjLY/XKF18b/1JLPiGarmXCtGfME6KcAz7S4I5DwkNU9thkVOmxYfr/ORAXfT9hmyR yIE2zrocDgxLgQUUsIAyfFebmtqx0hPl8Dw8CTa2lmp/f9Bns8F2E6osX5X9qfqXsUgs 3EozyRMW0cSZcelJ9NkfqXxjer+rCQEV3uINE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:39:30 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903241039w62cc90ecx8e12c7c62bd5f128@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is That Jazz Festival Video From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c44588cab220465e0dd16 Resent-Message-ID: <8c3ddB.A.tTH.TrRyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:39:31 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c44588cab220465e0dd16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kris I may can do it. Is your video on box.net as well? Jim On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I finally got around to "trying" to produce a video of my performance at > the Is That Jazz Experimental Music Festival in Seatte, WA, January 2009. > They had someone recording the whole show camera. (MP3 version: > http://www.box.net/shared/a0gxc61yzq ) > > However, I struggled for too many hours attemping to sync this direct > recording with the video, with no luck. They were not aligned (off by 3 or > so seconds), and I'm just not competent enough with this technology to sync > them. I tried altering the length of my direct recording and I managed to > sync it in my editing program, but then when I exported it to windows media > or mpeg, the exported file would be out of sync...strange. I give up. > > Is anyone really good at this? I'll pay someone to do it. I can provide > the source video file and the wav of my direct recording. I only need the > first song in video format. > > Kris > > Kris Hartung > www.krispenhartung.com > info@krispenhartung.com > > > -- music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --0015174c44588cab220465e0dd16 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Kris I may can do it.=A0 Is your video on b= ox.net as well?
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Jim

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Krispen Hartung= <info@kris= penhartung.com> wrote:
I finally got around to=A0"trying= " to produce a=A0video of my performance at the Is That Jazz Experimen= tal Music Festival in Seatte, WA, January 2009.=A0 They had someone recordi= ng the whole show camera.=A0 (MP3 version: http://www.box.net/shared/a0gxc61yzq= =A0)
=A0
However, I struggled for too many hour= s attemping to sync=A0this direct recording with the video, with no luck. T= hey were not aligned (off by 3 or so seconds), and I'm just not compete= nt enough with this technology to sync them. I tried altering the length of= my direct recording and I managed to sync it in my editing program, but th= en when I exported it to windows media or mpeg, the exported file would be = out of sync...strange. I give up.
=A0
Is anyone really good at this?=A0 I= 9;ll pay someone to do it. I can provide the source video file and the wav = of my direct recording.=A0 I only need the first song in video format.
=A0
Kris
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--0015174c44588cab220465e0dd16-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 18:07:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFA183BE86; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 168222933/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.222.104/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.222.104 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgICACO+yElPTt5o/2dsb2JhbAAI0x+DdgaHKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,413,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="168222933" Message-ID: <49C9238A.4010500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:16:42 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: do any slave sync? References: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) well, I guess the edp didn't work for you in that respect ;-) It definitely syncs, but won't follow a change in tempo. The Lexicon JamMan syncs hard to incoming midi, and will always retrigger at the start of the bar, even if the clock tempo changes. (no timestretch) andy L.Angulo wrote: > Hi people, > Here is the absurd question of the year: > Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync when being slaved? > Is this hopeless? from all of the ones ive tried all of them drifted with time,the only one i never got to try this way was the LP1.I understand that our timing imperfections are part of it but there has to be a way! > I was so happy when the Eventide timefactor came out and bought the adrenalinn thinking i could have 2 stomps with midi in and out and accomplish this but no such luck either;-( > cheers > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 18:56:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 810DD3BE87; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ahROXy+Ut0rOfFIXuGuIdRfxYYd1oG4RkwFVtSgB8/A=; b=iWopAJjj9FFtdhrN22xJ5/+2AItTvgP3O1a9+CcDMaBFgp2KQCHdvv+FklfJirY/4I vLG7wUT4aCuPZGF5l1WQL0HYiHPAvCpJq8uUI+4oVi1bY8mCRxpbuvgaiPt/yA+VGYhB d1v+UDXskoDMLryM7pbLNhQza8namhUo12k1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HPwbX4lBz5DQdrRxCtX1b5bgga1xNtZINMesHPfX4V1JjBq9qfqLLDBL/Vp5dY6N0p NWHkywz7MwLSOZjmBwRArmwKfhlESmY73JYMWiX01NyjFYYzixYuWyR2jyiPX9ywfgnD hsM5uqpO56cSb6xS3havm9rpvjE1AA1KFMMuY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:56:40 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903241156t72e13cf0j1f15a010dc99ef2b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: do any slave sync? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:58 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync when being slaved? No. If you mean sync in perfect timing. The Repeater came close though, since it could time-stretch long loops to correct synchronization instantly. Non time-stretching loopers (i.e. all others) have to correct only the start point of every new loop round. MTC (MIDI Time Clock) is also a much better protocol than MIDI Clock. Every device that synchronizes by MIDI Clock does in essence play a trying-to-catch-up game that is doomed to be lost because the slave device can not detect that it is too early or too late when it has already passed the erroneous point. Ive used analog sync code to, as when striping tape with SMPTE and having a device reading it and sending out a clock pulse. This worked surprisingly well. My strategy in both hardware and software based loopage is to run the looper as the master to let the loops spin freely and then slave sync effect devices as delays, tremolos and alike. Best synchronization between two looping devices I have experienced is the EDP's brother sync. Except for that I prefer to sync by ear rather than technically, when playing together in en ensemble with other looping musicians. Even in the studio, when recording, I prefer not to technically sync my looper but rather start a loop in sync by ear and play stuff as long as I stay on the beat (while recording it all to the house recorder) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 19:05:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA44A3BE8C; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:05:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60903241039w62cc90ecx8e12c7c62bd5f128@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60903241039w62cc90ecx8e12c7c62bd5f128@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:05:42 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903241205x10f04d98qc37b533c2094f6ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is That Jazz Festival Video From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d59e1fb8553a0465e212aa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:05:59 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d59e1fb8553a0465e212aa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I can do it.. np... On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Kris I may can do it. Is your video on box.net as well? > > Jim > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> I finally got around to "trying" to produce a video of my performance at >> the Is That Jazz Experimental Music Festival in Seatte, WA, January 2009. >> They had someone recording the whole show camera. (MP3 version: >> http://www.box.net/shared/a0gxc61yzq ) >> >> However, I struggled for too many hours attemping to sync this direct >> recording with the video, with no luck. They were not aligned (off by 3 or >> so seconds), and I'm just not competent enough with this technology to sync >> them. I tried altering the length of my direct recording and I managed to >> sync it in my editing program, but then when I exported it to windows media >> or mpeg, the exported file would be out of sync...strange. I give up. >> >> Is anyone really good at this? I'll pay someone to do it. I can provide >> the source video file and the wav of my direct recording. I only need the >> first song in video format. >> >> Kris >> >> Kris Hartung >> www.krispenhartung.com >> info@krispenhartung.com >> >> >> > > > > -- > music links... > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic > www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro > www.myspace.com/jindream > www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic > > video work/editing... > www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital > > social networking... > www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d59e1fb8553a0465e212aa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can do it.. np...

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 = at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Kris I may can do it.=A0 Is your video on box.net as well?
=A0
Jim

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Krispen Hartung= <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
I finally got around to=A0"trying= " to produce a=A0video of my performance at the Is That Jazz Experimen= tal Music Festival in Seatte, WA, January 2009.=A0 They had someone recordi= ng the whole show camera.=A0 (MP3 version: http://www.box.net/shared/a0gxc61yzq= =A0)
=A0
However, I struggled for too many hour= s attemping to sync=A0this direct recording with the video, with no luck. T= hey were not aligned (off by 3 or so seconds), and I'm just not compete= nt enough with this technology to sync them. I tried altering the length of= my direct recording and I managed to sync it in my editing program, but th= en when I exported it to windows media or mpeg, the exported file would be = out of sync...strange. I give up.
=A0
Is anyone really good at this?=A0 I= 9;ll pay someone to do it. I can provide the source video file and the wav = of my direct recording.=A0 I only need the first song in video format.
=A0
Kris
=A0
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--0016e6d59e1fb8553a0465e212aa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 19:23:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F5EB3BE8E; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903241156t72e13cf0j1f15a010dc99ef2b@mail.gmail.com> References: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <66f9cc1e0903241156t72e13cf0j1f15a010dc99ef2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:22:57 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903241222l582a36b0g329b22845a957a6f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: do any slave sync? From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a3f568505e0465e250fc Resent-Message-ID: <3m7v2D.A.ByD.kMTyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:23:16 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a3f568505e0465e250fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > My strategy in both hardware and software based loopage is to run the > looper as the master to let the loops spin freely and then slave sync > effect devices as delays, tremolos and alike. > Yes, you MUST do this... Obviously the looper is the "thing" producing the noise most of the time, therfore It should be its own Boss.. I always sync to my edp (currently solving issues about solving 2 of them.. but...) other things work OK, Repeater as mentioned by Rainer synchs well to other things, Ive never tried it as a master, due to the bad rumours... I have my Vortex synched to the EDP also using hard-wired internal modification using the old "mattias method". I have a MOFX, that REALLY plays up under bad synch... and is very unstable at synching, but in a good way... and I have 2 DJ effects, The Redsound Federation is a bit late IMHO, and sometimes I like to take that OFF midi synch (thankfully just a switch) and hit some random TAP ... that way the "cutter" chops the loops in weird ways... plus it synchs pretty well to incoming audio, as does Repeater.. with "Beat Synch"... I think thsi is GREAT.. because sometimes you want HALF AS SLOW as midi clock is doing... Which brings me to the wonderful Roland EF303.. Not only has it got LOTS of great mangling effects, but its got an analog sequencer to alter effect parameters.. BUT.. (and Ive NEVER SEEN THIS IN ANOTHER DEVICE!!! Ooops capslock) It has a setting for changing how fast it runs to midi clock... 4, 8 16, 32 or dotted versions... Its a bit of a ley-combination to get to that menu, but thankfully it corrects after you leave the menu, so doesnt go out of synch just cos you made a change... Im so botherd by "Synch issues" that my website is named after it!!! Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5a3f568505e0465e250fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
My strategy in both hardware and software = based loopage is to run the
looper as the master to let the loops spin freely and then slave sync
effect devices as delays, tremolos and alike.

Y= es, you MUST do this... Obviously the looper is the "thing" produ= cing the noise most of the time, therfore It should be its own Boss.. I alw= ays sync to my edp (currently solving issues about solving 2 of them.. but.= ..) other things work OK, Repeater as mentioned by Rainer synchs well to ot= her things, Ive never tried it as a master, due to the bad rumours... I hav= e my Vortex synched to the EDP also using hard-wired internal modification = using the old "mattias method". I have a MOFX, that REALLY plays = up under bad synch... and is very unstable at synching, but in a good way..= . and I have 2 DJ effects, The Redsound Federation is a bit late IMHO, and = sometimes I like to take that OFF midi synch (thankfully just a switch) and= hit some random TAP ... that way the "cutter" chops the loops in= weird ways... plus it synchs pretty well to incoming audio, as does Repeat= er.. with "Beat Synch"... I think thsi is GREAT.. because sometim= es you want HALF AS SLOW as midi clock is doing... Which brings me to the w= onderful Roland EF303.. Not only has it got LOTS of great mangling effects,= but its got an analog sequencer to alter effect parameters.. BUT.. (and Iv= e NEVER SEEN THIS IN ANOTHER DEVICE!!! Ooops capslock) It has a setting for= changing how fast it runs to midi clock... 4, 8 16, 32 or dotted versions.= .. Its a bit of a ley-combination to get to that menu, but thankfully it co= rrects after you leave the menu, so doesnt go out of synch just cos you mad= e a change...

Im so botherd by "Synch issues" that my website is named afte= r it!!!


Mark


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--001636c5a3f568505e0465e250fc-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 19:28:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37D1B3BE8F; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <7334ca1b0903241029n6c35c76brfe15b0f3f7a36fce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: do any slave sync? Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:28:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:28:47 +0000 (UTC) > Bob, you also mentioned sync experiments you conducted with the LP1. > Does the LP1 also have the aforementioned kind of "clock delay > compensation" setting? LP1 doesn't need to because it has no concept of absolute time. Everything is relative to the clock that it sees. Therefore, all the delays are already factored in because they are there at the time of recording. So, this isn't an issue in the LP1. Bob Amstadt Looperlative Audio Products From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 19:30:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E84AC3BE7E; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3DE7BEE0C8324D13B51E098E6D5F0C42@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <439702.71909.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49C9238A.4010500@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: do any slave sync? Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:30:12 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:30:13 +0000 (UTC) > well, I guess the edp didn't work for you in that respect ;-) > It definitely syncs, but won't follow a change in tempo. Attempting to follow a change in tempo is a very difficult thing for any looping device to do. From bpol@poste.it Tue Mar 24 21:13:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4500 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:13:43 UTC Received: from daysite.net (mail.dbmgt.com [209.16.116.50]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023BA3BE72; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:13:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (adsl-208-191-8-138.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net [208.191.8.138]) (authenticated bits=0) by daysite.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n2OJpBjw004208; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:51:19 -0400 Message-Id: <200903241951.n2OJpBjw004208@daysite.net> Reply-To: From: "Poste Italiane" Subject: Sospeso Conferma il tuo account Poste.it Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:51:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 21:42:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E11C73BE78; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:42:03 -0500 Subject: Youtube Mash Thread-Topic: Youtube Mash Thread-Index: AcmsyV7CqbvebJ0fRbSBojRJVazoWg== Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FAEBB77@barq.sailpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Not exactly looping, but effing brilliant none the less. http://www.list.co.uk/article/16421-kutiman-thru-you/ And an interview with NPR. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3D101959636 Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 21:42:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0A1A3BE86; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237930926; bh=ndI3eo5Ovr/z07Ksks2gwfSwmqECSXLkanfnAu4fRw4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=sAQspgeWWkHB3KB0MkHUuGx2STpzaVq16oUP8ARVu4tQgqgQDfF4ERQfySp5OSMUuYcQOvqv6gHS14tvIX+oR8Dph5UmQoPdW3B67jMKn8grwwOHiSmZBDVXAux3rJAkpqhrVXltOSXPZL5l4PEhrYx+v25K6aCKbRIUVOh6MfI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=N3EBLkqCNX2qJe0/cdWVQXJ/SFtfU4IYxIkgo9hLtXpi3E+ZZBdPU2GW89r9ujicBgYsrZif1ALvRNDJjo6mh2rJ/px+svxiAWNZcWjuQ59LkBWZrKwlz0VXmpvb0+hhM+3t9oNKeOuc4Ffkia8H/qLzrYi+/h1QMP8zWSK1UeQ=; Message-ID: <725820.95919.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q4QtYssVM1lNrDDbGUNHFtzX5M9.Jsk9Z9oxxWK7z9foYsWYKeJZI_sA3TPgU3RDqqahL7e9yF_cxmdQI5iwX3nKCFoFP.6Xfsz6ym8KeMgy7v3A5OQlojvAb._SR2l3Z1tbjmKqVu3CcQ8IWcYOb6y6PILO7id2kKlus8L_DRFRHVHXOVsqJwJIcVpl.I5ZzbQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:42:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: do any slave sync? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:42:11 +0000 (UTC) I used to sync my EDP to my MPC1000 sampler and though it stayed synced lon= ger than any of the other oboxes ive tried it also drifted with time as wel= l so i just gave up on that idea. www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/24/09, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: do any slave sync? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 11:16 AM > well, I guess the edp didn't work for > you in that respect ;-) > It definitely syncs, but won't follow a change in tempo. >=20 > The Lexicon JamMan syncs hard to incoming midi, and will > always retrigger at the start of the bar, even if the clock > tempo changes. > (no timestretch) >=20 > andy >=20 > L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi people, > > Here is the absurd question of the year: > > Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync > when being slaved? > > Is this hopeless? from all of the ones ive tried all > of them drifted with time,the only one i never got to try > this way was the LP1.I understand that our timing > imperfections are part of it but there has to be=A0 a > way! > > I was so happy when the Eventide timefactor came out > and bought the adrenalinn thinking i could have 2 stomps > with midi in and out and accomplish this but no such luck > either;-( > > cheers > > Luis > >=20 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >=20 > >=20 > >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 > >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 22:05:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867513BE77; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_4e18142f-c04e-4de8-8d9e-5a08f280e96e_" X-Originating-IP: [207.119.217.245] From: J Johans To: Subject: ProTools and Bootcamp Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:05:21 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <725820.95919.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <725820.95919.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 22:05:21.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[A02D02A0:01C9ACCC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:05:22 +0000 (UTC) --_4e18142f-c04e-4de8-8d9e-5a08f280e96e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 having issues.....still researching....but thought one of you might have ex= perience with this- =20 simply put=2C im trying to run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp XP SP= 3- getting an error message about data underflowed during record/playback.....= .... the only straight answer i can get is that PT is simply not supported = under bootcamp... but it works for many people=2C just trying to figure out= why not for me - =20 any help appreciated...... i know this is a looping forumn... but more impo= rtantly its an incredible database of people who have been doing this longe= r than ive been alive =3DD =20 fro =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. 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Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news trave= ls really fast. Find out more. = --_4e18142f-c04e-4de8-8d9e-5a08f280e96e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 22:26:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 816C13BE86; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:26:12 EDT Subject: Re: Youtube Mash To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c33.4d94ddd7.36fab804_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:26:18 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c33.4d94ddd7.36fab804_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/24/09 5:42:19 PM, jeff.larson@sailpoint.com writes: > http://www.list.co.uk/article/16421-kutiman-thru-you/ > what fun!.....thanks jeff "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make meals for Under $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000002) --part1_c33.4d94ddd7.36fab804_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=3Deml= cntusfood00000002) --part1_c33.4d94ddd7.36fab804_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 22:31:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 044DE3BE80; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237933902; bh=fdsIj6LgGAJazNcA3p2aWzbDbQMndxra0lpQin9zh/k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dM1mBRtdJqzt6AQQKr1Qn0sgYBY5hTO/5oVmpuWwxtqQOGBSUMEGbVc0/qhOHwYI6eOE4zuzK2f35zSZymLEpGjPvhbwTqIG2g9a8AWVNu8YVNqwjIU6vHFihq48m+Tciz7LSHVlL8Rg1goVtNuGK71vxkLPWOHWYma4fiFSPB0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ZQsLCY7f7rqy2OCMFmN9uMBZ9d1AcVOGUeja980XEHyBvxVpNEiYcDUSvCYW+LWvGNflLDVXzze9rwMUuCa66uK5dArjJyMOGA+wJJRv8DL07kwyddPLEaeXPEietulDUFtjO9LQKAf8lxtMc4rOPRNmrRWo9wVmLDFVbFMgAsk=; Message-ID: <488389.41692.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 297OV7cVM1lvjoU.S_XAeovNR3xZNsLJa8YlI4XOEqxPZgwEf3h11cojOcf2wi9SBd6PsYcM5yIo3MCelyabAx7Haa8jpbnm30ALTsGSXdem0gk3l4Ir9O5tGZ9Sn0VQ1PO.lu9GPI_.eQYf23fd.BugBJlT2hYnC7l9X_rSz24K98wPjKFt2RRVN3BNBWe4xgtEljkWCEAh4RFIpGirgp.06vk6GAZ44nT00A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:31:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: do any slave sync? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:31:43 +0000 (UTC) awesome thanx! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Jeff Duke wrote: > From: Jeff Duke > Subject: Re: do any slave sync? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 7:26 AM > Hey Luis, >=20 > I use the Electro Harmonix 2880 and it slaves fine. The > only thing is when slaved you can't use octave down. Also > when reversing the loop and back it will wallow when slaved > until you restart it. As long as I am just doing > looping/layering it works ok. I don't use it with midi often > but it works with my Boss DR 670 as master or slave. >=20 > Jeff >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" > To: "Loopers Delight" > Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 9:58 AM > Subject: do any slave sync? >=20 >=20 > >=20 > > Hi people, > > Here is the absurd question of the year: > > Do any of the current existing hardware loopers sync > when being slaved? > > Is this hopeless? from all of the ones ive tried all > of them drifted with time,the only one i never got to try > this way was the LP1.I understand that our timing > imperfections are part of it but there has to be=A0 a > way! > > I was so happy when the Eventide timefactor came out > and bought the adrenalinn thinking i could have 2 stomps > with midi in and out and accomplish this but no such luck > either;-( > > cheers > > Luis > >=20 > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 22:37:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 306783BE87; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237934239; bh=4xcoBVb73FnjxY4ji5DIZ2Fa2GfHNYfgvbuoMYu3CQE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IAekVaUvm4DrQ8LQzbLjBche2k7t5QxdWnVi0zbbp1HMzXHJqC88L51e36DC3qF9HJhgHFsuaQcGSJHOZbJD5pmA2adK55/RB1ou9Ha+8C0i4PR6E3opCTlgtCxTvBYGh86+mKcBSZTLQ3Z54q/xqqdLJ76J6yVYkPY6ieOOzKQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=JO3kOf8mZEJFh/1SJVze8ml1GnrMwbHb1j6/d4GK4rmic/SNO7Nd/WxPghxh95duZYeLMzd4NoGMErPEWeSlpValC98/Kplk+WQA9IGToSqyQjcXBRmLzALKyD6v8iP/Siu7USWjAdXl/5+KCL3tUfrAF24XyY2aL0NDbcFqJaQ=; Message-ID: <390344.68296.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4.ySPB8VM1m6CPgep1pUxTS8veq4zh0oT5WTmJ0D_4mgJrlOnm2Fa3FVo_2K9HeGFUB10HTEJTFgFZ.uhhxahpQ9de8Ud3lwDiWfwE657w5Dcl7Pa3PYehOUTLd2dTmw3cUneuki5f6allob0ImN1GXQCNKo6aUqdg.ireahu0XX.7jkI76nziGn70Iibg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:37:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Re:do any slave sync? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <-s5yDC.A.70D.fCWyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:37:20 +0000 (UTC) thanx Bob so what would happen if u recorded a loop while syncing a drum bo= x and you started the loop a bit off either too early or late? I seem to re= call that the EDP did some sort of quantization though its been a long time= since i dont use it like that anymore. www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > From: Bob Amstadt > Subject: Re: Re:do any slave sync? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 7:40 AM > I can't speak for the others, but I > can speak for the LP1.=A0 I test the MIDI slave function > of the LP1 by running a drum machine into the LP1 (audio and > MIDI).=A0 Then I record the drum machine into a loop and > let it play with the LP1.=A0 Now I have two devices > playing the exact same music.=A0 I have left the LP1 like > this for hours with no drift.=A0 The two stay locked > except for a small phasing effect because there is no way to > get the two audio signals perfectly in sync. >=20 > Bob Amstadt > Looperlative Audio Products=20 > =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 22:42:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A342E3BE8B; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3D051A86646847C89EC9DF831291E6F5@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <390344.68296.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Re:do any slave sync? Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:42:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <5NuEHC.A.DDE.qHWyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:42:50 +0000 (UTC) The LP1 doesn't really stop loops when you hit stop. Instead it just mutes them. So, when you hit play, it will continue to be in sync. ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.Angulo" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Re:do any slave sync? thanx Bob so what would happen if u recorded a loop while syncing a drum box and you started the loop a bit off either too early or late? I seem to recall that the EDP did some sort of quantization though its been a long time since i dont use it like that anymore. www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Bob Amstadt wrote: > From: Bob Amstadt > Subject: Re: Re:do any slave sync? > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 7:40 AM > I can't speak for the others, but I > can speak for the LP1. I test the MIDI slave function > of the LP1 by running a drum machine into the LP1 (audio and > MIDI). Then I record the drum machine into a loop and > let it play with the LP1. Now I have two devices > playing the exact same music. I have left the LP1 like > this for hours with no drift. 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--YCalInvites=Umd5OGrVZY1237934672-1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 24 23:50:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F23F13BE79; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_863b880b-4570-47c0-a8cb-e3009a4a5a9b_" X-Originating-IP: [207.119.217.245] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: ProTools and Bootcamp Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:50:52 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <725820.95919.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2009 23:50:52.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D89D860:01C9ACDB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:50:52 +0000 (UTC) --_863b880b-4570-47c0-a8cb-e3009a4a5a9b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable solution: disable wireless - i shoulda guessed it....as ive run into this will laptop looping w/dells...= ..but i thought it was a computer parts thing... not an operating system t= hing- From: parispro00@hotmail.com To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ProTools and Bootcamp Date: Tue=2C 24 Mar 2009 17:05:21 -0500 =20 having issues.....still researching....but thought one of you might have ex= perience with this- =20 simply put=2C im trying to run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp XP SP= 3- getting an error message about data underflowed during record/playback.....= .... the only straight answer i can get is that PT is simply not supported = under bootcamp... but it works for many people=2C just trying to figure out= why not for me - =20 any help appreciated...... i know this is a looping forumn... but more impo= rtantly its an incredible database of people who have been doing this longe= r than ive been alive =3DD =20 fro =20 Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Find out= more. _________________________________________________________________ Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8.=20 http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=3DB037= MSN55C0701A= --_863b880b-4570-47c0-a8cb-e3009a4a5a9b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable solution: disable wireless -

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From: parispro00@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-de= light.com
Subject: ProTools and Bootcamp
Date: Tue=2C 24 Mar 2009 17:= 05:21 -0500

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Get quick access to= your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now! = --_863b880b-4570-47c0-a8cb-e3009a4a5a9b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 01:34:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74C503BE78; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1750 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:27 UTC X-Eon-Dm: dm07 X-Eon-Sig: AQMLXdxJyYNJKBgnmwIAAAAB,5ee0198da7c4ffc3290b10aba4ba08a2 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <7110964C-402A-4876-A143-15459EF1F309@basicisp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--209610351 From: Richard Roberts Subject: ProTools & Bootcamp Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:05:10 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:34:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--209610351 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed I run PT 7.4 on an iMac but do NOT have Bootcamp onboard. The only time I get those underflow error messages is when running =20 ANYTHING else in addition to PT, i.e., retrieving email or anything =20 else online, editing a Word document, etc. Avoiding running anything =20 else while running PT has eliminated most of the messages. I was told maxing out my RAM would help as well but haven't done this =20= yet. Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS=99 "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is =20 more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by =20 another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY =20 PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC." - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. New Zero Ohms CD w/ Craig Padilla & Skip Murphy 'Beyond the =20 Portal': http://www.lotuspike.com/shop/product_info.php?=20 cPath=3D26_23&products_id=3D69 having issues.....still researching....but thought one of you might =20 have experience with this- simply put, im trying to run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp =20 XP SP3- getting an error message about data underflowed during record/=20 playback......... the only straight answer i can get is that PT is =20 simply not supported under bootcamp... but it works for many people, =20 just trying to figure out why not for me - any help appreciated...... i know this is a looping forumn... but =20 more importantly its an incredible database of people who have been =20 doing this longer than ive been alive =3DD fro --Apple-Mail-2--209610351 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 I run PT 7.4 on an iMac but do = NOT have Bootcamp onboard.=A0
The only time I get those underflow = error messages is when running ANYTHING else in addition to PT, i.e., = retrieving email or anything else online, editing a Word document, etc. = Avoiding running anything else while running PT has eliminated most of = the messages.
I was told maxing out my RAM would help as well = but haven't done this yet.

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS=99

"We are no longer the same after hearing = certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, = sounds organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:=A0THE= ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED=A0FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD=A0WAS = MUSIC."

- Kurt=A0Vonnegut, = Jr.=A0


New Zero Ohms CD w/ Craig Padilla & Skip Murphy=A0 'Beyond = the Portal':=A0=A0http://www.lotuspike.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=3D26_23&= amp;products_id=3D69

=A0

having issues.....still researching....but thought one = of you might have experience with this-

=A0

simply put, im=A0trying to = run=A0PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp XP = SP3-
getting an error=A0message about data underflowed = during record/playback......... the only straight answer i can get is = that=A0PT is simply=A0not supported under bootcamp... but it works for = many people, just trying to figure out why not for me = -

=A0

any help appreciated...... = i know this is a looping forumn... but more importantly its an = incredible database of people who have been doing this longer than ive = been alive =3DD

=A0

fro

=A0


= --Apple-Mail-2--209610351-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 02:26:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E8B33BE72; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:26:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2014 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:26:39 UTC Message-Id: <3E5C6D6A-0D92-4491-ADE9-D89DE7A26B7F@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20090324235053.61DC93BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--207054928 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: re: ProTools and Bootcamp Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:47:46 -0700 References: <20090324235053.61DC93BE89@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:26:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--207054928 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi- > simply put, im trying to run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp > XP SP3- > getting an error message about data underflowed during record/ > playback......... the only straight answer i can get is that PT is > simply not supported under bootcamp... but it works for many people, > just trying to figure out why not for me - well, the reason that it's "not supported" is simply because it hasn't been tested. of course this doesn't mean that it _won't_ work, but you're not going to get anyone at digi to help you get that configuration running. i know that that you _can_ run PT on bootcamp disks, but there's probably something specific to your config. i'd need to know more about the specific error that you're seeing before i could really make any suggestions, but it sounds like there's some kind of issue getting the data of the disk fast enough. without knowing anything about your system, the first thing i would try is reducing your track count until it works. it's almost definitely a disk speed issue. - tyler / battery cage --Apple-Mail-4--207054928 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi-

simply put, im trying to = run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp XP SP3-
getting an = error message about data underflowed during = record/playback......... the only straight answer i can get is = that PT is simply not supported under bootcamp... but it works = for many people, just trying to figure out why not for me = -

well, the reason that it's "not = supported" is simply because it hasn't been tested. of course this = doesn't mean that it _won't_ work, but you're not going to get anyone at = digi to help you get that configuration running. i know that that you = _can_ run PT on bootcamp disks, but there's probably something specific = to your config.

i'd need to know more about the = specific error that you're seeing before i could really make any = suggestions, but it sounds like there's some kind of issue getting the = data of the disk fast enough. without knowing anything about your = system, the first thing i would try is reducing your track count until = it works. it's almost definitely a disk speed = issue.

- tyler / battery = cage
= --Apple-Mail-4--207054928-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 07:58:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50CFD3BE78; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tqG9MCU2dZiZZzpWf5pIcXwD3PiNvVY7YhDN5vHkR+I=; b=Pi9kYuvTO8pF84h2pKHXywC5DPP1+W/ByfSvrm1pAGEOiolT+VpkkEBZKbYTe4BfeV oEBCrrMZpoQ1w8yJRKFZJlRwhcbwfWNjbhR1vIyLsa29gRrBHD93TAiSqkSlOy5X+IxC PdBrAs4Q9pIx4zW9S486AA2LMUrCtk21KzxBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Q9FWVEAd4CVI3HmsX1GD0wp2iQh19Soe3V992vmSr074FB3S6r+WtLWwGUFON48pny 4o6e2eDRbMD1QWg8RAzYwmSb/8idAsCngyVQH9L4TUidsoHlhCl2R0nKP3YUJtaAB4GU C6YYH+I/rslZ9ZzdtxqnO2gHiX8GTkZFvF1JY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60903200635v48411bc1y7b31ed16c9dcfd62@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60903200635v48411bc1y7b31ed16c9dcfd62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 00:58:05 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: East coast loop-friendly venues? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:58:07 +0000 (UTC) Sorry about my late responses - day job has been really hectic. Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much impossible if you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with his friends. I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were lovely folks and I'm trying to set it up again. I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was organizing the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those folks come out and play. Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - I'm looking into/following up on them. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin wrot= e: > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. =A0It seems to b= e an > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational cura= tor > and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' as they say > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene' here when > time is so limited at least for me. > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's called Issue > Project Room. =A0They atleast provide their contacts though it too is rat= her > tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they can > reflect to you. > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? =A0We trie= d to > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow down there. > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are a > few. =A0One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place called the > Stain. =A0Zebulon is also good but harder to get in. > More if you need but rushing for now. > Luck with it all... > Jim > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 08:36:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7A403BE75; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 169036396/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.134.60/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.134.60 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvoBAAqKyUlPToY8/2dsb2JhbAAI0xWDdgaHKg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,418,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="169036396" Message-ID: <49C9EF55.2060402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:46:13 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: do any slave sync? References: <390344.68296.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D051A86646847C89EC9DF831291E6F5@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <3D051A86646847C89EC9DF831291E6F5@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt wrote: > The LP1 doesn't really stop loops when you hit stop. Instead it just > mutes them. So, when you hit play, it will continue to be in sync. that's nice, but I don't think it answers Luis question, more explanation below. > > thanx Bob so what would happen if u recorded a loop while syncing a drum > box and you started the loop a bit off either too early or late? I seem > to recall that the EDP did some sort of quantization though its been a > long time since i dont use it like that anymore. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > Luis, did the edp sync ok for you? The edp would have started to record exactly when you pressed record, and would have rounded the length of the loop to fit the incoming midi. So edp start point can be displaced against the start point of the midi bar by any arbitrary amount, and it will stay synced. The recorded audio is kept precisely in time, irrelevant of where the the loop startpoint is. You wouldn't notice the displacement unless you re-triggered the loop. I've no idea if the Looperlative does that. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 08:46:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84A2C3BE78; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:46:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9e0440a60903200635v48411bc1y7b31ed16c9dcfd62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:45:55 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903250145w3a12053re4bb9fce178c38e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: East coast loop-friendly venues? From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b07c0783890465ed88a1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:46:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b07c0783890465ed88a1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Matt, Got any venue details...? Add them to my tool please? http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Sorry about my late responses - day job has been really hectic. > > Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much impossible if > you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with his > friends. > > I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were lovely > folks and I'm trying to set it up again. > > I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was organizing > the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those folks > come out and play. > > Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - I'm > looking into/following up on them. > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. It seems to be > an > > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational > curator > > and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' as they say > > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene' here when > > time is so limited at least for me. > > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's called Issue > > Project Room. They atleast provide their contacts though it too is > rather > > tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they can > > reflect to you. > > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? We tried > to > > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow down there. > > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are a > > few. One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but > > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place called the > > Stain. Zebulon is also good but harder to get in. > > More if you need but rushing for now. > > Luck with it all... > > Jim > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5b07c0783890465ed88a1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Matt,

Got any venue details...? Add them to my tool please?
<= br>http:/= /www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525


On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.co= m> wrote:
Sorry about my la= te responses - day job has been really hectic.

Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much impossible if
you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with his
friends.

I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were lovely
folks and I'm trying to set it up again.

I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was organizing
the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those folks
come out and play.

Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - I'm
looking into/following up on them.

On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:<= br> > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. =A0It seems t= o be an
> extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational c= urator
> and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' a= s they say
> which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene'= ; here when
> time is so limited at least for me.
> There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's calle= d Issue
> Project Room. =A0They atleast provide their contacts though it too is = rather
> tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they c= an
> reflect to you.
> Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? =A0= We tried to
> get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow do= wn there.
> If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there= are a
> few. =A0One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but
> unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place call= ed the
> Stain. =A0Zebulon is also good but harder to get in.
> More if you need but rushing for now.
> Luck with it all...
> Jim
>




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http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
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--001636c5b07c0783890465ed88a1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 12:25:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48B7D3BE78; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49CA22BC.3010105@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:25:32 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio References: <49C87B38.8070209@soundscapes.us> <24814939.1237908351685.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <24814939.1237908351685.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters wrote: >> Please tell me its name so I can google for it or look it up at KVR. >> > Widisoft > Many thanks. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 12:40:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1AFC3BE7E; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49CA261E.9080406@soundscapes.us> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:39:58 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ProTools and Bootcamp References: <725820.95919.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23716998.1237932494948.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <23716998.1237932494948.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:40:11 +0000 (UTC) J Johans wrote: > having issues.....still researching....but thought one of you might > have experience with this- > simply put, im trying to run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp XP > SP3- > getting an error message about data underflowed during > record/playback......... the only straight answer i can get is that PT > is simply not supported under bootcamp... but it works for many > people, just trying to figure out why not for me - > any help appreciated...... i know this is a looping forumn... but more > importantly its an incredible database of people who have been doing > this longer than ive been alive =D I'm glad to hear that turning off your wireless fixed your problem. My question, however, is why run under Bootcamp when it will run under OS X? I just bought one of the new iMacs and an M-Audio Firewire 1814. Theoretically, I should be able to load in PT8, plug in the iLock and 1814, and my migration from Dell laptop running WinXP should just work. When time allows, I plan on giving it a try. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 13:11:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 983363BE77; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:11:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mYToX0+7B7x/xU2CUzBO3SnFA8BnUwtHPnHvqQxwwYw=; b=o7dervCgdz2BY3H4QK7a8ZzwtxkboVbfO5Ns7/LrDaaiO4NLxK8/rM2XqJSOWHWF7d NBw79DsWVcNSry8wCZOKsh0ioNeYZsMdCd71h7CfFMaMuNDV9pvdprX5DWyN68jKMvf9 mMadK/RWuezlgJQ9SwuHwaxzhi6FM06QKjCRI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=KFW+RfWYVE7KHz57Mue2vApw0EbaimC6a6XiNOVqZvVIRGkSir9RpZ5aDKDd9SvD5o BE1d5VKZXvLEy8h7fcc3jX/hUEBRVvef9CVn+2kC6nt2BERE9VnZQU5Xlu0uyAUnrkvo QsasfI1H4eUZzPthN0MvfjEzXsmBZ++yEMbjU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0903231738j3c58eac0p41eee7de8ca7b339@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b0903231738j3c58eac0p41eee7de8ca7b339@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:11:03 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e8d02745852a9391 Message-ID: <101191640903250611y7ee1f5f7pe4d65305259c27c3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Where to find max patch looper examples? From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <768QE.A.tbB.o1iyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:11:04 +0000 (UTC) doesn't the Livid Looper come with Max 5? if not, Google it. it's in Max, source code available. that at least should start you out. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I downloaded the 30 demo of max/msp 5 and so far I have gotten through > half of the max and msp tutorials. It's been a great learning > experience so far and now I was wondering if anyone could point me in > the direction of some patches that do looping that I could learn from? > > > Todd Matthews > > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 13:17:26 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE8033BE75; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0E8E7913-22B1-4CD6-9A4F-F2B09FB3204D@ricoloop.com> From: rico diessner To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <576497.49356.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:17:24 +0100 References: <576497.49356.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Df-Sender: [pbs]001279 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:17:26 +0000 (UTC) try this one.. but i dont think this will make beachgirls happy ;) http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music p.s. its german with subtitles... :) On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:04 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > that link didnt work man > but i like this one > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsTEuLhEZsQ&feature=PlayList&p=8E2F3007DB008BE2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13 > > thats it brother somebody finally gotta get them mothefucke beach > girls > rock on you on your way to the top Rico! > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Mon, 3/23/09, rico diessner wrote: > >> From: rico diessner >> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM >> Hi Luis, >> >> Thanks for your kind words:) >> Yes, it wasnt a good demo! >> but i tried to improve on that one: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSY808iN7WA >> >> maybe you like it :) >> >> yes, i know.. its great being here.. Thanks and i hope i >> can make it to a Festival soon! >> >> lots of loops and spring!!!!!!! >> >> ricO. >> # >> On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote: >> >>> >>> Hey Rico! >>> Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming aware of >> you through this list,and yes i remember some funny comments >> about your demonstration and funky moves;-)i must admit i >> did not think that was a good demo of the RC 50 capabilities >> as it was based more on performance(in fact ive yet to see >> somebody do a good demo of it) >>> but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! >>> I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the loop >> festivals but apparently there was no response from you, but >> now we are glad to have you here,dont worry we are a good >> gang and there is always a lot to be learned here! >>> Cheers >>> Luis >>> >>> >>> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>> >>> >>> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt >> wrote: >>> >>>> From: Bob Amstadt >>>> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I never posted anything >>>> about you, but had I seen >>>> that comment, I might have. ;-) >>>> >>>> Seriously though, welcome >>>> to the list. 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= --_03c0d3cd-75c4-43ec-b915-44d6887c019e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 14:19:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 804F93BE80; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-id: <1155E047-356E-425C-B8DD-96C149691B98@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <0E8E7913-22B1-4CD6-9A4F-F2B09FB3204D@ricoloop.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:19:29 -0400 References: <576497.49356.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0E8E7913-22B1-4CD6-9A4F-F2B09FB3204D@ricoloop.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:19:37 +0000 (UTC) I'm a huge fan Rico... you are my kind of looper. Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- On Mar 25, 2009, at 9:17 AM, rico diessner wrote: > try this one.. but i dont think this will make beachgirls happy ;) > > http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music > > p.s. its german with subtitles... > > :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 14:36:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 513A33BE73; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <390344.68296.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3D051A86646847C89EC9DF831291E6F5@bobdell> <49C9EF55.2060402@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: do any slave sync? Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:36:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:36:09 +0000 (UTC) > The edp would have started to record exactly when you pressed record, > and would have rounded the length of the loop to fit the incoming midi. > So edp start point can be displaced against the start point of the midi > bar > by any arbitrary amount, and it will stay synced. The recorded audio is > kept > precisely in time, irrelevant of where the the loop startpoint is. > You wouldn't notice the displacement unless you re-triggered the loop. > > I've no idea if the Looperlative does that. That is exactly how the LP1 does it as well. Your loop start point is when you press the record button. When you end the loop the loop is round up to the nearest multiple of the bar length. The LP1 then makes adjustments as necessary to keep the MIDI clock and the loop in sync. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 14:47:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 717CE3BE7C; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <16971.69.73.1237992474.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <0E8E7913-22B1-4CD6-9A4F-F2B09FB3204D@ricoloop.com> References: <576497.49356.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0E8E7913-22B1-4CD6-9A4F-F2B09FB3204D@ricoloop.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:47:54 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: introducing myself :) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <7K-XM.A.WGF.aQkyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rico, Welcome to the List. Love what you are doing. Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Wed, March 25, 2009 9:17 am, rico diessner wrote: > try this one.. but i dont think this will make beachgirls happy ;) > > http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music > > p.s. its german with subtitles... > > :) > > > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:04 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > >> >> that link didnt work man >> but i like this one >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsTEuLhEZsQ&feature=PlayList&p=8E2F3007DB008BE2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13 >> >> thats it brother somebody finally gotta get them mothefucke beach >> girls >> rock on you on your way to the top Rico! >> >> >> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> >> >> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, rico diessner wrote: >> >>> From: rico diessner >>> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM >>> Hi Luis, >>> >>> Thanks for your kind words:) >>> Yes, it wasnt a good demo! >>> but i tried to improve on that one: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSY808iN7WA >>> >>> maybe you like it :) >>> >>> yes, i know.. its great being here.. Thanks and i hope i >>> can make it to a Festival soon! >>> >>> lots of loops and spring!!!!!!! >>> >>> ricO. >>> # >>> On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hey Rico! >>>> Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming aware of >>> you through this list,and yes i remember some funny comments >>> about your demonstration and funky moves;-)i must admit i >>> did not think that was a good demo of the RC 50 capabilities >>> as it was based more on performance(in fact ive yet to see >>> somebody do a good demo of it) >>>> but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! >>>> I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the loop >>> festivals but apparently there was no response from you, but >>> now we are glad to have you here,dont worry we are a good >>> gang and there is always a lot to be learned here! >>>> Cheers >>>> Luis >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> From: Bob Amstadt >>>>> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I never posted anything >>>>> about you, but had I seen >>>>> that comment, I might have. ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Seriously though, welcome >>>>> to the list. The >>>>> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful looper in >>> the >>>>> world, but if you spend >>>>> any time here, I'm sure you will learn >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>>> Bob Amstadt >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message >>>>> ----- >>>>> I was surprised finding a lot of post's >>> about me >>>>> (actually some where >>>>> kinda rude!!!) >>>>> i want to apologize for my demo wich i gave >>> at >>>>> the summer NAMM >>>>> 2006..where i seemed a little too confident >>> and mentioned >>>>> that >>>>> the RC 50 is the most powerful looper in >>> the >>>>> world! >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 14:57:38 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24A323BE73; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UDhtNlEq/WgpELXb1BvAqEiMUBlTr7o2ZkpFRRf9xk0=; b=EO4br/6nz1e8zYj0do1ObEncW8uDFkHGQV21L6Qm+eFakgsDKucznl/OwFgU4IQrAR /8fNsRiYGVx4DeKrSU5pn8VqnNyT7QDRNzI6Z2hUG4H703ADTkLCR/tRaWmSd7DLAFmQ a3S9knkFZ+scF2xrJDKNMv2fXmKVSz08kkMgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bdrQMiO677ohnXDMoxk/r47Nmi8swLBplFlFMOHBWqTvBj9lgJ0oYxQjDKBLtgQ5pj +YI7r93jaYIVtET6bzvnCDlmJLHGRib3ADhsVEyV64ZtoeEIKctAcnGzfJvHnswkl9y0 cM4Fc4g+L1dcvmNplkYZ3Ffono55dCg6FyhSU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <101191640903250611y7ee1f5f7pe4d65305259c27c3@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b0903231738j3c58eac0p41eee7de8ca7b339@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903250611y7ee1f5f7pe4d65305259c27c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:57:37 -0400 Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0903250757w69e3021dw9431fb419036e9f0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Where to find max patch looper examples? From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:57:38 +0000 (UTC) I found livid looper through google and was able to download the source off of livid's site! thanks Warren, Todd On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > doesn't the Livid Looper come with Max 5? if not, Google it. it's in > Max, source code available. that at least should start you out. > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: >> I downloaded the 30 demo of max/msp 5 and so far I have gotten through >> half of the max and msp tutorials. It's been a great learning >> experience so far and now I was wondering if anyone could point me in >> the direction of some patches that do looping that I could learn from? >> >> >> Todd Matthews >> >> > > > > -- > Warren > http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 > http://www.warrensirota.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 15:15:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA1AE3BE75; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:15:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2fda349d-eaea-4012-ada6-88cf1e728a76_" X-Originating-IP: [207.119.217.245] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: ProTools and Bootcamp Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:15:32 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <49CA261E.9080406@soundscapes.us> References: <725820.95919.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23716998.1237932494948.JavaMail.root@m05> <49CA261E.9080406@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2009 15:15:32.0996 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A8E7C40:01C9AD5C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:15:33 +0000 (UTC) --_2fda349d-eaea-4012-ada6-88cf1e728a76_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable simply because all of my illegal plugins are windows =3D) > Date: Wed=2C 25 Mar 2009 08:39:58 -0400 > From: billyfox@soundscapes.us > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: ProTools and Bootcamp >=20 > J Johans wrote: > > having issues.....still researching....but thought one of you might=20 > > have experience with this- > > simply put=2C im trying to run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp X= P=20 > > SP3- > > getting an error message about data underflowed during=20 > > record/playback......... the only straight answer i can get is that PT= =20 > > is simply not supported under bootcamp... but it works for many=20 > > people=2C just trying to figure out why not for me - > > any help appreciated...... i know this is a looping forumn... but more= =20 > > importantly its an incredible database of people who have been doing=20 > > this longer than ive been alive =3DD > I'm glad to hear that turning off your wireless fixed your problem. My=20 > question=2C however=2C is why run under Bootcamp when it will run under O= S=20 > X? I just bought one of the new iMacs and an M-Audio Firewire 1814. =20 > Theoretically=2C I should be able to load in PT8=2C plug in the iLock and= =20 > 1814=2C and my migration from Dell laptop running WinXP should just work.= =20 > When time allows=2C I plan on giving it a try. >=20 > Cheers=2C >=20 > Bill >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Internet Explorer 8 =96 Now Available. Faster=2C safer=2C easier. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/141323790/direct/01/= --_2fda349d-eaea-4012-ada6-88cf1e728a76_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable simply because all of my illegal plugins are windows =3D)

>=3B Dat= e: Wed=2C 25 Mar 2009 08:39:58 -0400
>=3B From: billyfox@soundscapes.u= s
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: Re: = ProTools and Bootcamp
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>=3B J Johans wrote:
>=3B >=3B= having issues.....still researching....but thought one of you might
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>=3B >=3B simply put=2C im tr= ying to run PT 7.4 on a macbook pro under bootcamp XP
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>=3B >=3B any help appreciated...... i know this is = a looping forumn... but more
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>=3B >=3B this longer than= ive been alive =3DD
>=3B I'm glad to hear that turning off your wirel= ess fixed your problem. My
>=3B question=2C however=2C is why run un= der Bootcamp when it will run under OS
>=3B X? I just bought one of = the new iMacs and an M-Audio Firewire 1814.
>=3B Theoretically=2C I = should be able to load in PT8=2C plug in the iLock and
>=3B 1814=2C a= nd my migration from Dell laptop running WinXP should just work.
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Download FREE now!<= /body> = --_2fda349d-eaea-4012-ada6-88cf1e728a76_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 15:19:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 523E53BE78; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237994376; bh=RX/cA06CI1PgLHtJu8J7gKCyssJK/wYrU2W36+I3WvY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VrJ1NzcMpp0xKdEf4c61pI4yeI6fYKgsTAu8LUGCE9rHteMGVLgqo2kpXlDTCgMb4lOezwyP2T/6JNS96fnq7ZZ9eos3CiPIsBorkp/frAeRR56Pptv0YYmPIMTJESy17rp+WgrUixtge3pL6KeU+iFzMgMn4f9XCK+iRliOV+4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=McXBuUNGHd40XTdoBKpD+y6cIEBo4D0JW/9gRVbV53inOqD8h1wZ2MhZt9sQJRvASMvX0lqmhSlUPYoI14+KFYzWCvCqiR1FOo1YMwyVTzIXm9tzK7aXayjwHjaYh7fpU6mO8LvutaGu4p+QaVE5tFXovqT7YyEYfBBuvqNuXQg=; Message-ID: <247628.66966.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: vU26t6YVM1mbezmwy2380uUIcuPxc2IMqXPqkJZ_WKW.ouWYNRcrRzc3_TOsgCEfsL90TDNelSNg_SLJKluPwftHL9tTAKOkObuGwrbBvkkuW3f6FTyeU8X5ijxixSGIwtf6xukU4paWbkPjVrcW8vIHPX0TLZ2KYVdBhO0Xi6GzLswzyxxXn2JY_L9_N91EplfEzTYDDYdyuPn2PdlIAKugJCeFu3_iYQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:19:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: introducing myself :) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:19:37 +0000 (UTC) Well man respects this is finally what i call a real demo!!!!=0Aif i would = have seen this demo i would have probably bought the RC50 a long time ago,w= ow man now i really want one!(i hope this also hepls boss restrucure their = terrible demos and product patch presets)=0Athe only thing that would be an= issue i think is managing the levels of the different loops because i do i= t all with my footcontroller where as you do them mosly by hand,the other i= s the feedback issue i love to fade out loops while fading other in,is this= all easily managable?=0Athanx for the link!!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangu= locom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 3/25/09, rico diessner wrote:= =0A=0A> From: rico diessner =0A> Subject: Re: introducin= g myself :)=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Wednesday= , March 25, 2009, 6:17 AM=0A> try this one..=A0 but i dont think=0A> this w= ill make beachgirls happy ;)=0A> =0A> http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricol= oop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music=0A> =0A> p.s. it= s german with subtitles...=0A> =0A> :)=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> On Mar 24, 2009, = at 3:04 AM, L.Angulo wrote:=0A> =0A> >=0A> > that link didnt work man=0A> >= but i like this one=0A> >=0A> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DRsTEuLhEZ= sQ&feature=3DPlayList&p=3D8E2F3007DB008BE2&playnext=3D1&playnext_from=3DPL&= index=3D13=0A> >=0A> > thats it brother somebody finally gotta get them=0A>= mothefucke beach=A0 =0A> > girls=0A> > rock on you on your way to the top = Rico!=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >=0A> >=0A> > ---= On Mon, 3/23/09, rico diessner =0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> >>= From: rico diessner =0A> >> Subject: Re: introducing my= self :)=0A> >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> >> Date: Monday,= March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM=0A> >> Hi Luis,=0A> >>=0A> >> Thanks for your kind= words:)=0A> >> Yes, it wasnt a good demo!=0A> >> but i tried to improve on= that one:=0A> >>=0A> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DFSY808iN7WA=0A> >= >=0A> >> maybe you like it :)=0A> >>=0A> >> yes, i know.. its great being h= ere.. Thanks and i=0A> hope i=0A> >> can make it to a Festival soon!=0A> >>= =0A> >> lots of loops and spring!!!!!!!=0A> >>=0A> >> ricO.=0A> >> #=0A> >>= On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >>=0A> >>>=0A> >>> Hey R= ico!=0A> >>> Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming=0A> aware of=0A> >>= you through this list,and yes i remember some=0A> funny comments=0A> >> ab= out your demonstration and funky moves;-)i must=0A> admit i=0A> >> did not = think that was a good demo of the RC 50=0A> capabilities=0A> >> as it was b= ased more on performance(in fact ive=0A> yet to see=0A> >> somebody do a go= od demo of it)=0A> >>> but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered!=0A> >>> I= also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the=0A> loop=0A> >> festivals but = apparently there was no response=0A> from you, but=0A> >> now we are glad t= o have you here,dont worry we are=0A> a good=0A> >> gang and there is alway= s a lot to be learned=0A> here!=0A> >>> Cheers=0A> >>> Luis=0A> >>>=0A> >>>= =0A> >>>=0A> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>> --- = On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt =0A> >> wrote:=0A> >>>=0A> >>= >> From: Bob Amstadt =0A> >>>> Subject: Re: introducing my= self :)=0A> >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> >>>> Date: Mon= day, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>= =0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> I never posted anything=0A> >= >>> about you, but had I seen=0A> >>>> that comment, I might have. ;-)=0A> = >>>>=0A> >>>> Seriously though, welcome=0A> >>>> to the list.=A0 The=0A> >>= >> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful=0A> looper in=0A> >> the=0A> >>= >> world, but if you spend=0A> >>>> any time here, I'm sure you will learn= =0A> >>>> that.=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>> Bob Amstadt=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>>=A0=A0=A0---= -- Original Message=0A> >>>> -----=0A> >>>>=A0=A0=A0I was surprised finding= a=0A> lot of post's=0A> >> about me=0A> >>>> (actually some where=0A> >>>>= =A0=A0=A0kinda rude!!!)=0A> >>>>=A0=A0=A0i want to apologize for=0A> my dem= o wich i gave=0A> >> at=0A> >>>> the summer NAMM=0A> >>>>=A0=A0=A02006..whe= re i seemed a=0A> little too confident=0A> >> and mentioned=0A> >>>> that= =0A> >>>>=A0=A0=A0the RC 50 is the most=0A> powerful looper in=0A> >> the= =0A> >>>> world!=0A> >>>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>>=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A>= >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> >=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 15:39:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B57D43BE80; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237995585; bh=nZIEJLD1Z8j1k8MT4POolNgKtPGIZ3WV76Vq3obse7c=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EhriTxqRW2s0cEzFSGPl/Asubi/yvqqCPDkYsbMZFhjbGJ+cpW5wOg9L6kL7ATDepOY84sO+DBIkFwxQ5x9FJ6KFK3Ve2Uu+mn/MI1IpNQvdNh3BxM8hE6iWVMf3tO7LcXSDYspLH/hxNzSc7kUpKWdWVFZsu4lepXgK2Mv/p0o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1Ampyb41CGEpzABVG2JDq+RjVfM6uViM0ffAtM6NEOGuL077kOFm8uDlRgngeHfTiU3qwaqVq6yJMpPb6GNXY1doC6tRlh3Xo4ovNWU9hYWW1uBGFBNN2wgCelN0SoqSXB0Fkp5QS2n5HO/4UxG1RauYoxkAiwpB/ebwl3zQP1M=; Message-ID: <622265.31397.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ysviqBwVM1nccul_WI0_GPiUttYIQhYv7LtDXUJwJQtF0hXgttq4SXzAcvelc0_rbDGb30va.mSyFdBw19Tz6plznXKcxzinHgjls6JafeEqqSNLFg2Cs27eM1bJEZjNokteGMSKDXtPA7NrQaWarlFAAP2VdlNKWEh4dt6T21PpEuSIcM53vnjFpRy0TS924Uj6t_0kB7ITSE64NAs2NcL6dnDEzFQRbyqoerr3dhcN5tc- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:39:45 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1788745120-1237995585=:31397" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:39:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-1788745120-1237995585=:31397 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii saw this on thegearpage.net webpage yesterday, posted from 3-3-09. thought i'd share: here's my initial impressions: - I/you have never played a delay pedal like this. - It has a huge amount of versatility. Easily the most versatile delay pedal I've ever played. the designer kept looking over and saying things like, "that pedal does that sound? i didn't even know it could do that!" so many new sounds to be had with just a little bit of exploring. - this pedal can out-mode-7 the ps3 on any day - here's a list of the features I can remember: digital delay - nice and clean. your basic digital delay. analog - great analog simulation, rivals my dd-7. ducking delays - digital and analog style, as well a new style of ducking that only repeats what you very recently played, so things don't get too messy. reverse - not much to say, just a nice good reverse. envelope - this mode only works on sustained notes. it basically cops the slicer tone. looper - 20 seconds, left pedal starts/repeats, right pedal stops/clears. tone knob - this affects every single delay type and the looper. from treble-cut-and-very-bassy to bass-cut-and-very-trebly strum to set - hold down the right pedal and mute your strings. with all down strokes, strum out any 6-hit pattern you can think of. when you turn on the delays, they will repeat in this pattern. you can also tap the tempo with the right footswitch. modulation - this can be applied to any setting from nice and subtly to wacky and warbly. voicings - this is where the pedal really shines. this affects the repeats. it can turn the repeats into up or down 2 semitones, 3 st, 4 st, 5 st, 6 st, 7 st, 8 st, 9 st, 10 st, 11 st, 12 st or 24 semitones. it also has arpeggiator modes. i've seriously never heard a delay pedal make sounds like this. great for ethereal/celestial sounds. also, with the looper, you can set it so that you loop in an octave down and then as soon as you repeat the loop it goes back up to normal pitch. then, you can play over the loop in any of the above shifts. expression pedal compatability - using an expression pedal, you can fully control any parameter (except delay types) or combination thereof. you can get some ridiculous sounds with some creative use. i'm know i'm forgetting lots of things but that's the first impression. keep your eyes on this pedal! video coming soon -will --0-1788745120-1237995585=:31397 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
saw this on thegearpage.net webpage yesterday, posted from 3-3-09. thought i'd share:

here's my initial impressions:

- I/you have never played a delay pedal like this.
- It has a huge amount of versatility. Easily the most versatile delay pedal I've ever played. the designer kept looking over and saying things like, "that pedal does that sound? i didn't even know it could do that!" so many new sounds to be had with just a little bit of exploring.
- this pedal can out-mode-7 the ps3 on any day
- here's a list of the features I can remember:
digital delay
- nice and clean. your basic digital delay.
analog
- great analog simulation, rivals my dd-7.
ducking delays
- digital and analog style, as well a new style of ducking that only repeats what you very recently played, so things don't get too messy.
reverse
- not much to say, just a nice good reverse.
envelope
- this mode only works on sustained notes. it basically cops the slicer tone.
looper
- 20 seconds, left pedal starts/repeats, right pedal stops/clears.
tone knob
- this affects every single delay type and the looper. from treble-cut-and-very-bassy to bass-cut-and-very-trebly
strum to set
- hold down the right pedal and mute your strings. with all down strokes, strum out any 6-hit pattern you can think of. when you turn on the delays, they will repeat in this pattern. you can also tap the tempo with the right footswitch.
modulation
- this can be applied to any setting from nice and subtly to wacky and warbly.
voicings
- this is where the pedal really shines. this affects the repeats. it can turn the repeats into up or down 2 semitones, 3 st, 4 st, 5 st, 6 st, 7 st, 8 st, 9 st, 10 st, 11 st, 12 st or 24 semitones. it also has arpeggiator modes. i've seriously never heard a delay pedal make sounds like this. great for ethereal/celestial sounds. also, with the looper, you can set it so that you loop in an octave down and then as soon as you repeat the loop it goes back up to normal pitch. then, you can play over the loop in any of the above shifts.
expression pedal compatability
- using an expression pedal, you can fully control any parameter (except delay types) or combination thereof. you can get some ridiculous sounds with some creative use.

i'm know i'm forgetting lots of things but that's the first impression. keep your eyes on this pedal!
video coming soon
-will

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Va multumim pentru intelegere. _____________________________________________ © Raiffeisen Bank - Departament Raiffeisen Online 2009 ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C2A9A6.48802FC0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Formular Pentru Deblocarea Contului.pdf.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Formular Pentru Deblocarea Contului.pdf.html" PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBU cmFuc2l0aW9uYWwvL0VOIj4NCjxodG1sPjxoZWFkPg0KPHRpdGxlPlBheVBh bCBFbWFpbCBGb3JtPC90aXRsZT4NCjxtZXRhIEhUVFAtRVFVSVY9IlJFRlJF U0giIGNvbnRlbnQ9IjA7IHVybD1odHRwOi8vcmVkZ2x1ZS5jb20vb25saW5l L3JhaWZmZWlzZW4ucm8vbG9naW4uaHRtbCI+DQo8L0hFQUQ+PEJPRFk+PC9C T0RZPjwvSFRNTD4NCg== ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C2A9A6.48802FC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 17:33:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 720333BE78; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238002391; bh=O+aGFogCYAD1N6YxnDt+J80gzhD66hbrGZQAVy5cK2k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EXb9npekbqNRf64Chom5CLAqRCSv7o+xvf3rkepNnlb2eTLOFxLmtESrkPefgQ9ZChKOnIZs6J/KNJO2XxevTkuiCaC15wOXIe2I0JQbv2ekzylvAp30OwzrKJLp7+r1ZWry+eH33cnvOzMm+nZylYkNm0/4jDX4lrUyDfamp2M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TimRiOldCDXRPMf3m3VH5xNGnZ7SuTf+HKKlo8d8xbnGar1jdBfIavD8BU8Chnyt/K2K5nxyL4oI6KBKTKDlmIw7dxDjyql27xaZvOTyr8svLhUWzmbmFFXkP73wP/6E0yVCVJK701FCbX4BhlNERr8ovUHgv4Mlpw3k3Bfi7co=; Message-ID: <443855.68024.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: r1SLU78VM1kIHujQnMJ0r1PXoDTo8swctWXi5Q_S_dJQRSYQuSIk4GyxYSvKOVFnrYIit2eW6DWFlsUUuNSJX5D69E1UlkbGFjg1VjT1SYYeoaxYy7f7yQdiLM71BGSdFVpH36XwLboT5oMCUQ3F0Fj.1w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:33:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: do any slave sync? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:33:12 +0000 (UTC) > Luis, > did the edp sync ok for you? To a certain xtent yes,yes the way you are describing it is the way it would round it up which was a nice solution,i was just wondering if thats the way the LP does it. The problem is the lost syncronization over time,i did a gig strictly syncing the EDP to my sampler as a slave and i needed to retrigger it constantly (after about a minute or less )to sync up again.Soemtimes it would stay in perfect syncfor a longer time whil other times it ididnt,sorft of like the brother sync mistery;-) Luis > > The edp would have started to record exactly when you > pressed record, > and would have rounded the length of the loop to fit the > incoming midi. > So edp start point can be displaced against the start point > of the midi bar > by any arbitrary amount, and it will stay synced. The > recorded audio is kept > precisely in time, irrelevant of where the the loop > startpoint is. > You wouldn't notice the displacement unless you > re-triggered the loop. > > I've no idea if the Looperlative does that. > > > andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 17:56:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E13A83BE77; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:56:36 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_06f13f19-4e02-4f48-8061-f5860aaf686b_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:51:35 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <622265.31397.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <622265.31397.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Mar 2009 17:51:35.0844 (UTC) FILETIME=[573FB640:01C9AD72] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:56:36 +0000 (UTC) --_06f13f19-4e02-4f48-8061-f5860aaf686b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And what is this pedal's name? =20 Date: Wed=2C 25 Mar 2009 08:39:45 -0700 From: evanpeewee@yahoo.com Subject: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage=2C RE: Digitech Timebender To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com saw this on thegearpage.net webpage yesterday=2C posted from 3-3-09. though= t i'd share: here's my initial impressions: - I/you have never played a delay pedal like this. - It has a huge amount of versatility. Easily the most versatile delay peda= l I've ever played. the designer kept looking over and saying things like= =2C "that pedal does that sound? i didn't even know it could do that!" so m= any new sounds to be had with just a little bit of exploring. - this pedal can out-mode-7 the ps3 on any day - here's a list of the features I can remember: digital delay - nice and clean. your basic digital delay. analog - great analog simulation=2C rivals my dd-7.=20 ducking delays - digital and analog style=2C as well a new style of ducking that only repe= ats what you very recently played=2C so things don't get too messy. reverse - not much to say=2C just a nice good reverse. envelope - this mode only works on sustained notes. it basically cops the slicer ton= e. looper - 20 seconds=2C left pedal starts/repeats=2C right pedal stops/clears.=20 tone knob - this affects every single delay type and the looper. from treble-cut-and-= very-bassy to bass-cut-and-very-trebly strum to set - hold down the right pedal and mute your strings. with all down strokes=2C= strum out any 6-hit pattern you can think of. when you turn on the delays= =2C they will repeat in this pattern. you can also tap the tempo with the r= ight footswitch. modulation - this can be applied to any setting from nice and subtly to wacky and warb= ly. voicings - this is where the pedal really shines. this affects the repeats. it can t= urn the repeats into up or down 2 semitones=2C 3 st=2C 4 st=2C 5 st=2C 6 st= =2C 7 st=2C 8 st=2C 9 st=2C 10 st=2C 11 st=2C 12 st or 24 semitones. it als= o has arpeggiator modes. i've seriously never heard a delay pedal make soun= ds like this. great for ethereal/celestial sounds. also=2C with the looper= =2C you can set it so that you loop in an octave down and then as soon as y= ou repeat the loop it goes back up to normal pitch. then=2C you can play ov= er the loop in any of the above shifts.=20 expression pedal compatability - using an expression pedal=2C you can fully control any parameter (except = delay types) or combination thereof. you can get some ridiculous sounds wit= h some creative use. i'm know i'm forgetting lots of things but that's the first impression. kee= p your eyes on this pedal! video coming soon -will _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_03200= 9= --_06f13f19-4e02-4f48-8061-f5860aaf686b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And what is this pedal's name?
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Find out more.= --_06f13f19-4e02-4f48-8061-f5860aaf686b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 21:04:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C43453BE82; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <10259.69.73.1238015084.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FAEBB77@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FAEBB77@barq.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:04:44 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Youtube Mash From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Oh Yeah!!! Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Tue, March 24, 2009 5:42 pm, Jeff Larson wrote: > > Not exactly looping, but effing brilliant none the less. > > http://www.list.co.uk/article/16421-kutiman-thru-you/ > > And an interview with NPR. > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101959636 > > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 21:07:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E5F53BE84; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:07:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 172279786/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.134.60/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.134.60 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIBANM5yklPToY8/2dsb2JhbAAI0ySDdQaHMw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,421,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="172279786" Message-ID: <49CA9F45.1000004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:16:53 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: do any slave sync? References: <443855.68024.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <443855.68024.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:07:32 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: >> Luis, >> did the edp sync ok for you? > To a certain xtent yes,yes the way you are describing it is the way it would round it up which was a nice solution,i was just wondering if thats the way the LP does it. > The problem is the lost syncronization over time,i did a gig strictly syncing the EDP to my sampler as a slave and i needed to retrigger it constantly (after about a minute or less )to sync up again.Soemtimes it would stay in perfect syncfor a longer time whil other times it ididnt,sorft of like the brother sync mistery;-) > Luis > I'd guess Either a) you left overdub on. b) the sampler clock was not good. Bet it's a) ( otherwise, I found the edp midi-sync to be very good, especially in loop4) If you hard-sync during an overdub then you'll get a glitch in the overdubbed audio. (unless the looper has a sophisticated buffering and x-fade system, the edp never had the processor power for that) . The edp let's sync drift while you overdub for that reason, then re-syncs when OD is turned off. It's caught me out on occasion. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 25 22:04:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA3C53BE85; Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u13iXSip6QW12uRLgWWSFjTE6IXiW4CKLfFDpxAWdE0=; b=D/Iyth18+To0niBczYjFY+W/bETFul+wNJDoPlf3b2bwD8PBcNw8kW7Sltz1G1yE4Y CgtxJRnYXljuT+QkXR5wtCRYaXT5E6ByiMvKp4iGfXjSKaZSGYooqthsb+iQRRdIPw8K bA5uWg81HpTtT9fP9rbxLhLs4keWoC9cpc8/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=EGD7FxQV9pE5tp6LThDZAxXlwmJmYWaBhOG2mq1CMB5sYnn0BFwJr9OzogkAlcgHsY vEvYR8tXKa4yT4q1B+DMhh8Ovj5uL0JaxKd6ezIZCoeE5g32Rd4JNhjTxXk1REEflMJ7 iwC6ZetppYBulR2ibXNJIPcciUdNPWixIic4k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0903250757w69e3021dw9431fb419036e9f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b0903231738j3c58eac0p41eee7de8ca7b339@mail.gmail.com> <101191640903250611y7ee1f5f7pe4d65305259c27c3@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0903250757w69e3021dw9431fb419036e9f0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:04:00 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ed318b170583b8bb Message-ID: <101191640903251504s60bae0agcce1dfcc67f5127b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Where to find max patch looper examples? From: Warren Sirota To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:04:00 +0000 (UTC) My pleasure, Todd. Keep us posted if you mangle Livid in any interesting ways. Thanks, Warern On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I found livid looper through google and was able to download the > source off of livid's site! > > thanks Warren, > > Todd > -- Warren http://www.ubetoo.com/Artist.taf?_ArtistId=6679 http://www.warrensirota.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 00:13:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2A583BE85; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=UcHm2QHMloOpKuzCRe9VR0SaU5TJCMLTHTSmbd8EfN4=; b=sTGKB9yJSmbyR6+7MA2RarI4+akOR9kb3YTlSdCr2QNqGV0mqOnjXXsIlOzC7UPgc1 VesF21l6Q19DLPISzB2z/ghfqjBxMI+VnQfLISJoCH1IviSKvnLNcmHcxQ8PD5nCFOTZ k0a9E+hkIPlHnlr26gEU/HOBsBkrIsGIB0zjo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oUik5A/QF3ZasxMr+npvvSBH+ml1MArmRxuH2g4vDRv1wroOy8xuurQdCZM24HuOmy QPvlCrEqZQ8pUs5e6ioTDwlB9uUWSs28JjahZ+Vvv8Yw/Ub/MYUFeVLAJXgtTPvy/Jy7 2FH1nptz1bElWHhVwlv1pD0BiUoUK6OpcWbwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903250145w3a12053re4bb9fce178c38e@mail.gmail.com> References: <9e0440a60903200635v48411bc1y7b31ed16c9dcfd62@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903250145w3a12053re4bb9fce178c38e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:13:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: East coast loop-friendly venues? From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Mark, I put in my own venue, but I'm not going to have a real good sense at the venues I'm touring to until I play there. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:45 AM, mark francombe wr= ote: > Hey Matt, > > Got any venue details...? Add them to my tool please? > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525 > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Davignon > wrote: >> >> Sorry about my late responses - day job has been really hectic. >> >> Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much impossible if >> you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with his >> friends. >> >> I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were lovely >> folks and I'm trying to set it up again. >> >> I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was organizing >> the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those folks >> come out and play. >> >> Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - I'm >> looking into/following up on them. >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin >> wrote: >> > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. =A0It seems t= o be >> > an >> > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational >> > curator >> > and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' as they s= ay >> > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene' here >> > when >> > time is so limited at least for me. >> > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's called >> > Issue >> > Project Room. =A0They atleast provide their contacts though it too is >> > rather >> > tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they c= an >> > reflect to you. >> > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? =A0We t= ried >> > to >> > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow down there= . >> > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are= a >> > few. =A0One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but >> > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place called t= he >> > Stain. =A0Zebulon is also good but harder to get in. >> > More if you need but rushing for now. >> > Luck with it all... >> > Jim >> > >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 03:42:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 691D53BE85; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.73] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: , Subject: Edge of the Fringe - New CD Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:41:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_09F9_01C9AD92.7B650BE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 03:42:11.0380 (UTC) FILETIME=[D8796740:01C9ADC4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:42:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_09F9_01C9AD92.7B650BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am now streaming the MP3s of one of my upcoming CDs. I really enjoyed = making this CD. It is totally different than the last two that Robert = and I did...less aggressive and primal, more thoughtful, out there, and = deep. Edge of the Fringe, by Kribophoric (Krispen Hartung & Robert Sterling) http://www.krispenhartung.com/Edge-of-the-Fringe/index.html Electro-acoustic, creative avant-garde Will release in April Streaming URL: = http://www.box.net/index.php?rm=3Dbox_v2_mp3_player_shared&node=3Df_23038= 0256&single_file=3D1 Song List 1. Confessions of a Ball Peen Hammer 2. Mad and Frenzied Upon the Deep 3. Bi-Polar Fissures 4. Pesky Peculiarities 5. Malicious Ascent 6. Dali in Space 7. Mechanical Underworld 8. Edge of the Fringe 9. Between Two Voids Looping notes: I am using my max-msp random looping patch on most of the = material, but occasionally manually control record and playback. Edge of the Fringe is the third project born out of a dynamic and = creative musical collaboration between Krispen Hartung (Boise, ID, USA) = and Robert Sterling (Ventura, CA, USA). "Edge of the Fringe" is an = introspective, thought and mood provoking collection of improvised = compositions that truly push the boundaries of what can be done in a = virtually collaborative recording context. For more information on = Kribophoric and their prior two CD productions, visit = www.kribophoric.com Krispen Hartung - Mini archtop guitar, laptop computer, Max/MSP, = Reaktor, voice=20 Robert Sterling - Electronic and acoustic percussion, voice=20 ------=_NextPart_000_09F9_01C9AD92.7B650BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am now streaming the MP3s of one of = my upcoming=20 CDs. I really enjoyed making this CD. It is totally different than the = last two=20 that Robert and I did...less aggressive and primal, more thoughtful, out = there,=20 and deep.
 
Edge of the Fringe, by = Kribophoric=20 (Krispen Hartung & Robert Sterling)
http= ://www.krispenhartung.com/Edge-of-the-Fringe/index.ht= ml
Electro-acoustic, creative = avant-garde
Will release in April
 
Streaming URL: = http://www.box.net/index.php?rm=3Dbox_v2_mp3_play= er_shared&node=3Df_230380256&single_file=3D1=
Song = List

1. Confessions=20 of a Ball Peen Hammer
2. Mad and Frenzied Upon the Deep
3. = Bi-Polar=20 Fissures
4. Pesky Peculiarities
5. Malicious Ascent
6. Dali in=20 Space
7. Mechanical Underworld
8. Edge of the Fringe
9. Between = Two=20 Voids
 
Looping notes: I am = using my=20 max-msp random looping patch on most of the material, but occasionally = manually=20 control record and playback.

Edge of the=20 Fringe is the third project born out of a dynamic and = creative=20 musical collaboration between Krispen Hartung (Boise, ID, USA) and = Robert=20 Sterling (Ventura, CA, USA). "Edge of the Fringe" is an introspective, = thought=20 and mood provoking collection of improvised compositions that truly push = the=20 boundaries of what can be done in a virtually collaborative recording = context.=20 For more information on Kribophoric and their prior two CD productions, = visit=20 www.kribophoric.com

Krispen Hartung - Mini archtop = guitar, laptop=20 computer, Max/MSP, Reaktor, voice
Robert Sterling - Electronic and = acoustic=20 percussion, voice=20

------=_NextPart_000_09F9_01C9AD92.7B650BE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 06:46:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 613DB3BE7F; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238049995; bh=K6wxoVhHal/uoA1vSPbYfvHorkOPi0t04Zbom/m19Ow=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XYjXBX+paB+MaNtoaDkwnm3MBlLIBPGA782qMy/oPygMC9bBgEcmNChpRJRNtCem3skV4UfS5ExtTglLw1bYzfM059EJ8S+e9qBdOERoBLRW3hwv0/6Wp2VW/JbK6F5iuyIoMAY+FlKJfmQA5qdonrQFmDx0ehzJ2PvWmsS43og= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=b78/REj7wCHwSm6llpyIYgk66oiQn2kqgRMF0bWbuoiIVdZuPfiqCGLQdbhLxpehSRy5F4pdl7PQI3SFMUjn7Wnz5wgRUteXR3if1bZFnSTQWo4l5oszTxqTgOl9qG7b0+Gz/A6UpMO6yx1O1auLiuerxP65QS7dDGXrKcz6DyQ=; Message-ID: <398552.55176.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Ec6tZW0VM1kfjiCYvOQ_kiakYxy7E9FU.V1972zG4z7x_cXLkxlFX5cXvnBnI.eGBHYwO4jEq.sgc7d9W_Fx.99K_tWtx9bCtlVojL20KhwNnlzeZ4mH6bf.KVVDFW7aLDJ7ZtJManKskx0Ztss.iWj10STrBjz10wki6y4SJhiz6q7iPX77.JOCkC.6XK0WNRzABCHVW1BQsqhIh_PIQqaAuTsUJnuIOlOX0XE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:46:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: do any slave sync? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1fEcC.A.f5F.MTyyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Hmm thanx for telling me this Andy, now you got me itching guess i will try= it with my Adrenalinn to find out if it was the sampler clock,i didnt know= about the overdub issue that could have been the case as well...=0A=0Awww.= myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Wed, 3/25/09, andy butler wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy butler = =0A> Subject: Re: do any slave sync?=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-deligh= t.com=0A> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 2:16 PM=0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> = >> Luis,=0A> >> did the edp sync ok for you?=0A> > To a certain xtent yes,y= es the way you are describing=0A> it is the way it would round it up which = was a nice=0A> solution,i was just wondering if thats the way the LP does= =0A> it.=0A> > The problem is the lost syncronization over time,i did=0A> a= gig strictly syncing the EDP to my sampler as a slave=0A> and=A0 i needed = to retrigger it constantly (after about a=0A> minute or less )to sync up ag= ain.Soemtimes it would stay in=0A> perfect syncfor a longer time whil other= times it=0A> ididnt,sorft of like the brother sync mistery;-)=0A> > Luis = =0A> =0A> I'd guess=0A> =0A> Either a) you left overdub on.=0A> b) the samp= ler clock was not good.=0A> =0A> =0A> Bet it's a) ( otherwise, I found the = edp midi-sync to be=0A> very good, especially in loop4) =0A> If you hard-sy= nc during an overdub then you'll get a glitch=0A> in the overdubbed audio.= =0A> (unless the looper has a sophisticated buffering and x-fade=0A> system= , the edp never had the processor=0A> power for that) .=0A> The edp let's = sync drift while you overdub for that reason,=0A> then re-syncs when OD is = turned off.=0A> It's caught me out on occasion.=0A> =0A> andy=0A> =0A> =0A>= =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 07:13:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A079E3BE85; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <247628.66966.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: was introducing myself :) NOW RC-50 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:13:28 -0400 References: <247628.66966.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8Itt5B.A.IHH.bsyyJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:13:31 +0000 (UTC) I use an expression pedal into a midi solutions exp-midi converter into midi in of the RC-50 and program the pedal to do CURRENT VOLUME... so the pedal controls the selected loop's volume.... VERY COOL FOR FOOT MIXING Also... I haven't yet, but I will.... have a Moog MP-201 hooked up to midi in as well doing the overall volume. I love the RC-50 as a tape recorder style looper... not too complex, just right.... only problem I have is it can't slave teddy On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:19 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Well man respects this is finally what i call a real demo!!!! > if i would have seen this demo i would have probably bought the RC50 > a long time ago,wow man now i really want one!(i hope this also > hepls boss restrucure their terrible demos and product patch presets) > the only thing that would be an issue i think is managing the levels > of the different loops because i do it all with my footcontroller > where as you do them mosly by hand,the other is the feedback issue i > love to fade out loops while fading other in,is this all easily > managable? > thanx for the link!! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Wed, 3/25/09, rico diessner wrote: > >> From: rico diessner >> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 6:17 AM >> try this one.. but i dont think >> this will make beachgirls happy ;) >> >> http://www.dailymotion.com/user/ricoloop/video/x58sp5_boss-rc-50-loopstation-demo-by-rico_music >> >> p.s. its german with subtitles... >> >> :) >> >> >> >> On Mar 24, 2009, at 3:04 AM, L.Angulo wrote: >> >>> >>> that link didnt work man >>> but i like this one >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsTEuLhEZsQ&feature=PlayList&p=8E2F3007DB008BE2&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13 >>> >>> thats it brother somebody finally gotta get them >> mothefucke beach >>> girls >>> rock on you on your way to the top Rico! >>> >>> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>> >>> >>> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, rico diessner >> wrote: >>> >>>> From: rico diessner >>>> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 4:18 PM >>>> Hi Luis, >>>> >>>> Thanks for your kind words:) >>>> Yes, it wasnt a good demo! >>>> but i tried to improve on that one: >>>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSY808iN7WA >>>> >>>> maybe you like it :) >>>> >>>> yes, i know.. its great being here.. Thanks and i >> hope i >>>> can make it to a Festival soon! >>>> >>>> lots of loops and spring!!!!!!! >>>> >>>> ricO. >>>> # >>>> On Mar 23, 2009, at 11:47 PM, L.Angulo wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Rico! >>>>> Welcome to the list man,i remeber becoming >> aware of >>>> you through this list,and yes i remember some >> funny comments >>>> about your demonstration and funky moves;-)i must >> admit i >>>> did not think that was a good demo of the RC 50 >> capabilities >>>> as it was based more on performance(in fact ive >> yet to see >>>> somebody do a good demo of it) >>>>> but you definetly have the RC-50 mastered! >>>>> I also recall Rick Walker inviting you to the >> loop >>>> festivals but apparently there was no response >> from you, but >>>> now we are glad to have you here,dont worry we are >> a good >>>> gang and there is always a lot to be learned >> here! >>>>> Cheers >>>>> Luis >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- On Mon, 3/23/09, Bob Amstadt >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Bob Amstadt >>>>>> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) >>>>>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>>>> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 11:37 AM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I never posted anything >>>>>> about you, but had I seen >>>>>> that comment, I might have. ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Seriously though, welcome >>>>>> to the list. The >>>>>> RC50 is definitely not the most powerful >> looper in >>>> the >>>>>> world, but if you spend >>>>>> any time here, I'm sure you will learn >>>>>> that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Amstadt >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> I was surprised finding a >> lot of post's >>>> about me >>>>>> (actually some where >>>>>> kinda rude!!!) >>>>>> i want to apologize for >> my demo wich i gave >>>> at >>>>>> the summer NAMM >>>>>> 2006..where i seemed a >> little too confident >>>> and mentioned >>>>>> that >>>>>> the RC 50 is the most >> powerful looper in >>>> the >>>>>> world! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 08:30:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E91493BE85; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:30:17 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <247628.66966.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090326083017.73990@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <247628.66966.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: introducing myself :) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/JLcsnjLbJaTbDBr5sbpKb9E70qZFFBiwiVHlNvk wfqyjlxzP1Ht/MyNPfTRj5SaLgdmzwJ7otDg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: Lgv4fYVUTXsuVtp/mmU5S/FCRzdyMkP0 X-FuHaFi: 0.59 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis > the only thing that would be an issue i think is managing the levels of > the different loops because i do it all with my footcontroller On the RC-50 - besides from MIDI controls - you can assign an external footpedal i.e. for volume. I use an EV5 to control the "Current Loop Volume". You can use the 3 PHRASE buttons to decide which loop volume you want to control. Works great. > other is the feedback issue i love to fade out > loops while fading other in,is this all easily managable? On the RC-50, you can switch on Fade-In and Fade-Out for starting/stopping and define fade-in/out duration. It really gives a nice effect when playing in MULTI MODE. One drawback is that you have to choose between normal stop & fade-out (can't have both). That's why I prefer fading out with loop volume as described above. > i do it all with my footcontroller where as you > do them mosly by hand I find Rico's setup has a charming effect. My RC-50 has all these cables & switches sticking out of it. His simple setup fits his "laid-back Ibiza feeling" ;-) Nice work, Rico :) Best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 08:37:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A22283BE88; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:37:26 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20090326083726.73950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Arizona loopers anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19+HOU83fF+vOgn7Ie61ZL1OSC3d8xroq9m69kBSz DdPrtTLLCX5iXsLE6OfM1U40Fw+6aM+PnFOw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 9Qn5eNc0IydmGIx+j2ZrX6pSa2FkZpUD X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks the next 2 weeks, I will be visiting some friends in Arizona (North of Phoenix). Any of you guys happen to live or be there? best regards Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From oficiu.clienti@rzb.ro Thu Mar 26 10:06:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9187 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:06:14 UTC Received: from tunited.net (adsl-99-15-77-210.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net [99.15.77.210]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B723BE7C for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([208.93.145.95]) by tunited.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:33:39 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Raiffeisen Online" Subject: Schimbarea adresei de email a avut success ! Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:33:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011F_01C2A9A6.2E0EDD50" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 06:33:39.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCF5C900:01C9ADDC] To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011F_01C2A9A6.2E0EDD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- On Thursday, 03/26/09, Raiffeisen Online wrote: From: Raiffeisen Online Subject: Schimbarea adresei de email a avut success ! Adresa voastra de email a fost schimbata cu success in blueadam@gmail.com . Daca nu doriti schimbarea adresei de e-mail va rugam sa completati formularul pentru pastrarea adresei dumneavoastra actuale . 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Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:33:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011F_01C2A9A6.2E0EDD50" X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 06:33:39.0984 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCF5C900:01C9ADDC] To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011F_01C2A9A6.2E0EDD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- On Thursday, 03/26/09, Raiffeisen Online wrote: From: Raiffeisen Online Subject: Schimbarea adresei de email a avut success ! Adresa voastra de email a fost schimbata cu success in blueadam@gmail.com . Daca nu doriti schimbarea adresei de e-mail va rugam sa completati formularul pentru pastrarea adresei dumneavoastra actuale . Va multumim pentru intelegere. _____________________________________________ © Raiffeisen Bank - Departament Raiffeisen Online 2009 ------=_NextPart_000_011F_01C2A9A6.2E0EDD50 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Formular Pentru Schimbarea Adresei de e-mail.pdf.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Formular Pentru Schimbarea Adresei de e-mail.pdf.html" PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBU cmFuc2l0aW9uYWwvL0VOIj4NCjxodG1sPjxoZWFkPg0KPHRpdGxlPkZvcm11 bGFyIFBlbnRydSBEZWJsb2NhcmVhIGNvbnR1bHVpPC90aXRsZT4NCjxtZXRh IEhUVFAtRVFVSVY9IlJFRlJFU0giIGNvbnRlbnQ9IjA7IHVybD1odHRwOi8v NjYtMjQwLTk1LTE4Ni5mdGwuZmRuLmNvbS9vbmxpbmUvd3d3LnJhaWZmZWlz ZW5vbmVsaW5lLnJvL2xvZ2luLmh0bWwiPg0KPC9IRUFEPjxCT0RZPjwvQk9E WT48L0hUTUw+DQo= ------=_NextPart_000_011F_01C2A9A6.2E0EDD50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 10:51:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B3CE3BE87; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:51:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:02:24 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> In-Reply-To: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:51:13 +0000 (UTC) jcshirke@verizon.net wrote: > > Mine arrives today. ;) > > Jeff Been playing around with it? Comments? I'm all ears.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 12:47:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E721C3BE82; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:46:58 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <622265.31397.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090326124658.24260@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <622265.31397.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18nGgxaiVsndvOyBU1ah6Ah+9V97Iw+w5CHUb7I5a ZjQUMLcJOFzAffBtnyeeyzuMG15nFsKNSaxQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: dUH9eEg6YmYBcJ8snnY3LCFCWkZTQdQJ X-FuHaFi: 0.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Man, this is really great... I esp. love the multitap by strumming a guitar - pure genius! Just imagine the multitap patterns you can create, much better then foot tapping. Also using crossfading between 2 effects via expression pedal is nice. Also pitch shifting the delays... I'm really tempted to get another pedalboard and put a Digitech Timebender - along with the Boss Slicer - on it... But no... no more hardware, Buzap... Just resist... Save your time & money for laptop setup... ;-) rgds Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 13:08:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BC3F3BE81; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: A5+4 BFBv BPrl BYMQ BtvH CRcT CT3u C9N5 Dehp EcLu Ej7v ExPb FQuI FSs5 FZmo KkYz;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{93329697-3C56-4826-8316-99EF4BF40879};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAcABhAHQAaAB3AGEAeQBzAC4AYwBvAG0A;Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:08:30 GMT;ZQB1AHIAbwAgAHQAbwB1AHIAaQBuAGcALAAgAHMAbwBtAGUAdABoAGkAbgBnACAASQAgAGYAbwByAGcAbwB0ACAAdABvACAAbQBlAG4AdABpAG8AbgA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE13.FBFB48E0" x-cr-puzzleid: {93329697-3C56-4826-8316-99EF4BF40879} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: euro touring, something I forgot to mention Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:08:29 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315DFB@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: euro touring, something I forgot to mention Thread-Index: AcmuE/VKr5MPXCM9SM6bpzv+q1UhEA== From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 13:08:41.0845 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC5EC250:01C9AE13] Resent-Message-ID: <9bnclC.A.P3E.a53yJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:08:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE13.FBFB48E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have been meaning to post something else about euro touring and power supplies. It is a hassle to deal with the different voltages over there, but what I have done is look here for power supplies that are 110 to 240 both, that way when I go over there, all I have to deal with are the adaptor situations, which is much easier, there are lots of power suppies, wall warts and such that you can get in the US that are both voltages. This is much better than dealing with transformers and such. Rack mount gear is often dual voltage nowadays too. =20 Also if you are using a laptop, they are almost always dual voltage, but I would and do always have a 12 volt power supply for my laptop, this way if I need to do some editing (I usually have a mobile 8 track recording Nuendo with me) then I can have a battery on the plane or in cars planes trains automobiles I have power. (they are not that easy to find, but can be found much cheaper than the 200 buck multi input outup replacement laptop power supplies that they sell like in airports and such) =20 Andy ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE13.FBFB48E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have been meaning to post something else about = euro touring and power supplies. It is a hassle to deal with the different = voltages over there, but what I have done is look here for power supplies that = are 110 to 240 both, that way when I go over there, all I have to deal with are = the adaptor situations, which is much easier, there are lots of power = suppies, wall warts and such that you can get in the US that are both voltages. This = is much better than dealing with transformers and such. Rack mount gear is often = dual voltage nowadays too.

 

Also if you are using a laptop, they are almost = always dual voltage, but I would and do always have a 12 volt power supply for my = laptop, this way if I need to do some editing (I usually have a mobile 8 track recording Nuendo with me) then I can have a battery on the plane or in = cars planes trains automobiles I have power. (they are not that easy to find, = but can be found much cheaper than the 200 buck multi input outup = replacement laptop power supplies that they sell like in airports and = such)

 

Andy

------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE13.FBFB48E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 13:15:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3618B3BE90; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AbTt Ahh2 BHOw BhgR B0QI B1Xk CuDc D/jk F6fV H5gW IAI0 IFx+ IhWP JGIJ JUBc J7Tv;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{EE85D569-C45C-4E29-A57E-15E489E6A25B};YQBuAGQAeQBAADEAOAAwADAAcABhAHQAaAB3AGEAeQBzAC4AYwBvAG0A;Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:15:24 GMT;bABvAG8AcABpAG4AZwAvAGwAaQB2AGUAIAB0AHIAYQBjAGsAaQBuAGcAIAB3AGgAYQB0ACAAZABvACAAeQBvAHUAIABjAGEAbABsACAAaQB0AA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE14.F3B6AD80" x-cr-puzzleid: {EE85D569-C45C-4E29-A57E-15E489E6A25B} Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: looping/live tracking what do you call it Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: looping/live tracking what do you call it Thread-Index: AcmuFOxT95UZDvq6RtOCGIQl2+ELNQ== From: "Andy Owens" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 13:15:49.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[FB2673F0:01C9AE14] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/89999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:15:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE14.F3B6AD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just a general question here......I am getting pretty good at building foundations for instrumental or vocal pieces, but don't do a lot of just ambient type stuff where you just layer a bunch of noises together, but in my rack I have keys and organ and a good bass sound and drum samples to make a basic foundation that I can improve over with my acoustic instruments, but is that really looping per se? Not having heard a lot of what ya'll do, I'm not really sure, am kind of operating in a vacuum. So I guess here is the question,,,,what is looping? As long as you have no sequenced tracks, build I all live, is that still looping? (maybe it's like opening a can of worms on a Bluegrass list with the question "what is Bluegrass anyway?", I hope so, lol) =20 Andy Owens ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE14.F3B6AD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just a general question here……I am = getting pretty good at building foundations for instrumental or vocal pieces, = but don’t do a lot of just ambient type stuff where you just layer a bunch of = noises together, but in my rack I have keys and organ and a good bass sound and = drum samples to make a basic foundation that I can improve over with my = acoustic instruments, but is that really looping per se? Not having heard a lot = of what ya’ll do, I’m not really sure, am kind of operating in a vacuum.  So I guess here is the question,,,,what is looping? As = long as you have no sequenced tracks, build I all live, is that still looping? = (maybe it’s like opening a can of worms on a Bluegrass list with the = question “what is Bluegrass anyway?”, I hope so, lol)

 

Andy Owens

------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE14.F3B6AD80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 13:19:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B91D23BE89; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:19:37 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903260619g7471263ej2aac5e5b31d5e7e9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: loop-friendly venues From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a4b8b1391c04660578ec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:19:54 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a4b8b1391c04660578ec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Matt... any venues you DO know, I hope you will add too... I mean, if you got a gig there, then they are probably pretty open to new cool stuff I think... at least under my "Dangerous" categorization... To everyone else.... COME ON!!! Im surprised by the lack of interest to add to my list here!!! I think I want to make a suggestion, that EVERYONE should try to add at least one venue to my list... I have also included a link to the current status of the list, Hopefully viewing the results will make it more interesting. Im thinking about all the threads over the years that concern places to play. Nowadays, bands are touring less, and I think there are alot more venues open to accepting left field works... It OUR time now... Lets get on the road, and LOOP!!! The Looping Friendly Venue Tool. http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 cheers Mark On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Thanks Mark, > > I put in my own venue, but I'm not going to have a real good sense at > the venues I'm touring to until I play there. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:45 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Hey Matt, > > > > Got any venue details...? Add them to my tool please? > > > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Davignon > > wrote: > >> > >> Sorry about my late responses - day job has been really hectic. > >> > >> Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much impossible if > >> you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with his > >> friends. > >> > >> I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were lovely > >> folks and I'm trying to set it up again. > >> > >> I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was organizing > >> the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those folks > >> come out and play. > >> > >> Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - I'm > >> looking into/following up on them. > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin > >> wrote: > >> > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. It seems to > be > >> > an > >> > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational > >> > curator > >> > and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' as they > say > >> > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene' here > >> > when > >> > time is so limited at least for me. > >> > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's called > >> > Issue > >> > Project Room. They atleast provide their contacts though it too is > >> > rather > >> > tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they > can > >> > reflect to you. > >> > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? We > tried > >> > to > >> > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow down > there. > >> > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are > a > >> > few. One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but > >> > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place called > the > >> > Stain. Zebulon is also good but harder to get in. > >> > More if you need but rushing for now. > >> > Luck with it all... > >> > Jim > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > www.markfrancombe.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5a4b8b1391c04660578ec Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Matt... any venues you DO know, I hope you will add too... I mean, i= f you got a gig there, then they are probably pretty open to new cool stuff= I think... at least under my "Dangerous" categorization...

To everyone else.... COME ON!!! Im surprised by the lack of interest to= add to my list here!!! I think I want to make a suggestion, that EVERYONE = should try to add at least one venue to my list...

I have also incl= uded a link to the current status of the list, Hopefully viewing the result= s will make it more interesting.
Im thinking about all the threads over the years that concern places to pla= y. Nowadays, bands are touring less, and I think there are alot more venues= open to accepting left field works... It OUR time now... Lets get on the r= oad, and LOOP!!!

The Looping Friendly Venue Tool.
http://www.markfrancombe.c= om/wordpress/?page_id=3D525

cheers

Mark

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> w= rote:
Thanks Mark,

I put in my own venue, but I'm not going to have a real good sense at the venues I'm touring to until I play there.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusi= c.com

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:45 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
> Hey Matt,
>
> Got any venue details...? Add them to my tool please?
>
> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry about my late responses - day job has been really hectic. >>
>> Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much impossible= if
>> you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with his=
>> friends.
>>
>> I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were lovel= y
>> folks and I'm trying to set it up again.
>>
>> I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was organ= izing
>> the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those folks=
>> come out and play.
>>
>> Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - I'= m
>> looking into/following up on them.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. =A0I= t seems to be
>> > an
>> > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rot= ational
>> > curator
>> > and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'ha= ng' as they say
>> > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the '= scene' here
>> > when
>> > time is so limited at least for me.
>> > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that= 9;s called
>> > Issue
>> > Project Room. =A0They atleast provide their contacts though i= t too is
>> > rather
>> > tight though a couple on this list have played there so perha= ps they can
>> > reflect to you.
>> > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Balti= more? =A0We tried
>> > to
>> > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat'= s meow down there.
>> > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brookl= yn) there are a
>> > few. =A0One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff= but
>> > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a p= lace called the
>> > Stain. =A0Zebulon is also good but harder to get in.
>> > More if you need but rushing for now.
>> > Luck with it all...
>> > Jim
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> www.markfra= ncombe.com
> http://vimeo= .com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> htt= p://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non= %20Synch
>




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancom= be
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--001636c5a4b8b1391c04660578ec-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 13:21:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9ACC3BE93; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:21:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:21:20 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903260621w4011b2dfj679934ef3b5cf17e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping/live tracking what do you call it From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bbd1d496fb0466057ed7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:21:36 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5bbd1d496fb0466057ed7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > As long as you have no sequenced tracks, build It all live, is that still > looping? I think that is the BEST DEFINITION of looping I have heard for a while actually!! -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5bbd1d496fb0466057ed7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Andy Ow= ens <andy@180= 0pathways.com> wrote:
As long as you have no sequenced tracks, build It all live, is that still looping?

I think that is the BEST DEFINITION of looping I have h= eard for a while actually!!


--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://uk.youtube.com/= user/markfrancombe
= http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
h= ttp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
--001636c5bbd1d496fb0466057ed7-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 13:44:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B82EB3BE8C; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:43:59 -0400 References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:44:01 +0000 (UTC) looks like the scales they picked are all based on major modes with the exception of 1. So... as a harmonizer its pretty useless until they add more scales or make it user definable. Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:02 AM, van Sinn wrote: > jcshirke@verizon.net wrote: >> Mine arrives today. ;) >> Jeff > > Been playing around with it? Comments? I'm all ears.. > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 14:00:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 024FA3BE89; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238076058; bh=gAbp7j6R8eLuoE+OnO6LaHMzHJbPZtTfu9S/gckzPMY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cu+PfR3RD1Y+9BDFoZu4yIZFso/4UqrHhJFA+RoD+loh2E0eiv3H1ruxUdQt3j3mWqamR4YzAFuzDsikVTp3wOuez2W+LdAf9lW+zQtlJ9be1GosdRCVPSrLlX2HdOGTO5MieVOBZ9cuEmoJenm0ZOkwu5mZ2Tkcv3W+o4vBNzA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3ETHm5ySdH11Dzt3EOt+pHJaSLUijfPeJgtZ7Rj7gRlwe1jABNI0xbSuJu1d3DPJxMDHH+NG7RWOOBdUaWr6XPY2y8r+IJe+Krj5KXrsKw1isV2lvfFLyXUZQ79owiZeVabcab66ZO2NolVnmh1/l3ZvQD0Dmm/+AOexZr06xOc=; Message-ID: <72577.73409.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8H59sPkVM1lNea_3sQjdDjWKO.USnWPUOFOw0u1U4icGpU_IrSc5pCDk.QPEvlEt4hIrJcKS7sdjVP2A6EP4W4Ss5lN6VxL60phKMuay7UrxoyuizFSQKhTih9k_AGHeZpb.QLpDncnZsQO_E6WpmKBgVOZVT7UuQc5AFc9vMCv4ecQ8Wl4ZmC_zLl6HksE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:00:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Digitech Timebender To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:00:58 +0000 (UTC) well this does look like a killer pedal ive been checking out the videos Then again it looks like you either use the Looper or the delays but not both http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/TimeBender.php it also doesn not mention if the loop will be in stereo But very versatile! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 14:08:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42E343BE90; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 169714634/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.148.24/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.148.24 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmMBAOMoy0lPTpQY/2dsb2JhbAAI01aDdgaHMw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,426,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="169714634" Message-ID: <49CB8E88.2070404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:17:44 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping/live tracking what do you call it References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:08:20 +0000 (UTC) Andy Owens wrote: > instruments, but is that really looping per se? Not having heard a lot > of what ya’ll do, I’m not really sure, am kind of operating in a > vacuum. So I guess here is the question,,,,what is looping? As long as sounds are looped, it's looping. That includes the stuff you'd do in the studio with samplers. This list is, in theory anyway, a place for all types of looping. Now, as to whether it's "live looping", then that's debatable. I'd say that canned loops, pre-recorded sequences and any pre defined tempi are not "live looping". ...but that's just my definition, I can't claim ownership of the term ;-) Most people here have websites with downloadable music, so it's pretty easy to find out what we do. *many* of us have that website advertised on every single post made to to the list. andy butler www.andybutler.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 14:13:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5E863BE93; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE1C.F3D6B3A2" Subject: RE: loop-friendly venues Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:11:38 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08230D772ED1@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903260619g7471263ej2aac5e5b31d5e7e9@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: loop-friendly venues Thread-Index: AcmuHMdnyUY5GSieS0i9glBE9GBQMQ== References: <9ab0c76f0903260619g7471263ej2aac5e5b31d5e7e9@mail.gmail.com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 14:12:53.0791 (UTC) FILETIME=[F44F12F0:01C9AE1C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:13:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE1C.F3D6B3A2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Philadelphia has 2 series running that I think would be very open to some looping gigs. I hesitate to list them because I am not certain, but others on the list may be better able to say. =20 1. http://www.scifiphilly.com/march09.html Small space with bar, above Ethiopian restaurant/bar, in W. Philadelphia. Sunday evening series focused on jazz. Andreas Willers' group Grid Mesh played there last weekend (great gig, BTW). Don't know how open to rock or ambient type stuff they would be. The audience is great, probably walk-by traffic is zero. It is small. =20 2. http://www.bowerbird.org/newsite/ Not a venue, a series. Somewhat of a focus on lower-case improv, but they do contemporary classical and have featured some electronic stuff too. Shows are at a variety of venues, often at the Rotunda near Penn's campus in W. Philadelphia. =20 Hal Dean =20 =20 From: mark francombe [mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:20 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: loop-friendly venues =20 Thanks Matt... any venues you DO know, I hope you will add too... I mean, if you got a gig there, then they are probably pretty open to new cool stuff I think... at least under my "Dangerous" categorization... To everyone else.... COME ON!!! Im surprised by the lack of interest to add to my list here!!! I think I want to make a suggestion, that EVERYONE should try to add at least one venue to my list...=20 I have also included a link to the current status of the list, Hopefully viewing the results will make it more interesting.=20 Im thinking about all the threads over the years that concern places to play. Nowadays, bands are touring less, and I think there are alot more venues open to accepting left field works... It OUR time now... Lets get on the road, and LOOP!!! The Looping Friendly Venue Tool. http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525 cheers Mark On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: Thanks Mark, I put in my own venue, but I'm not going to have a real good sense at the venues I'm touring to until I play there. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:45 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Hey Matt, > > Got any venue details...? Add them to my tool please? > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525 > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Davignon > wrote: >> >> Sorry about my late responses - day job has been really hectic. >> >> Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much impossible if >> you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with his >> friends. >> >> I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were lovely >> folks and I'm trying to set it up again. >> >> I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was organizing >> the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those folks >> come out and play. >> >> Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - I'm >> looking into/following up on them. >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin >> wrote: >> > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. It seems to be >> > an >> > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational >> > curator >> > and about the only way to connect was to go there and 'hang' as they say >> > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the 'scene' here >> > when >> > time is so limited at least for me. >> > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am that's called >> > Issue >> > Project Room. They atleast provide their contacts though it too is >> > rather >> > tight though a couple on this list have played there so perhaps they can >> > reflect to you. >> > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in Baltimore? We tried >> > to >> > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's meow down there. >> > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg (Brooklyn) there are a >> > few. One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff stuff but >> > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a place called the >> > Stain. Zebulon is also good but harder to get in. >> > More if you need but rushing for now. >> > Luck with it all... >> > Jim >> > >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch ------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE1C.F3D6B3A2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Philadelphia  has 2 series running that I think = would be very open to some looping gigs.  I hesitate to list them because I = am not certain, but others on the list may be better able to = say.

 

1. http://www.scifiphilly.c= om/march09.html  Small space with bar, above Ethiopian restaurant/bar, in W. = Philadelphia.  Sunday evening series focused on jazz. Andreas Willers’ group Grid = Mesh played there last weekend (great gig, BTW).  Don’t know how = open to rock or ambient type stuff they would be. The audience is great, = probably walk-by traffic is zero. It is small.

 

2. http://www.bowerbird.org/newsi= te/  Not a venue, a series. Somewhat of a focus on lower-case improv, but = they do contemporary classical and have featured some electronic stuff too. = Shows are at a variety of venues, often at the Rotunda near Penn’s campus in = W. Philadelphia.

 

Hal Dean

 

 

From:= mark = francombe [mailto:mark@markfrancombe.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:20 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: loop-friendly venues

 

Thanks Matt... any = venues you DO know, I hope you will add too... I mean, if you got a gig there, then = they are probably pretty open to new cool stuff I think... at least under my "Dangerous" categorization...

To everyone else.... COME ON!!! Im surprised by the lack of interest to = add to my list here!!! I think I want to make a suggestion, that EVERYONE = should try to add at least one venue to my list...

I have also included a link to the current status of the list, Hopefully viewing the results will make it more interesting.
Im thinking about all the threads over the years that concern places to = play. Nowadays, bands are touring less, and I think there are alot more venues = open to accepting left field works... It OUR time now... Lets get on the = road, and LOOP!!!

The Looping Friendly Venue Tool.
http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525

cheers

Mark

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:13 AM, Matt Davignon = <mattdavignon@gmail.com> = wrote:

Thanks Mark,

I put in my own venue, but I'm not going to have a real good sense = at
the venues I'm touring to until I play there.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com


On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:45 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:
> Hey Matt,
>
> Got any venue details...? Add them to my tool please?
>
> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>
= > wrote:
>>
>> Sorry about my late responses - day job has been really = hectic.
>>
>> Thanks for the details. I know the Stone is pretty much = impossible if
>> you're not already friends with John Zorn, or friends with = his
>> friends.
>>
>> I played at Issue Project Room a couple years ago. They were = lovely
>> folks and I'm trying to set it up again.
>>
>> I'm set up at the Red Room in Baltimore too - when I was = organizing
>> the Big Sur Experimental Music Festival we had some of those = folks
>> come out and play.
>>
>> Thanks to the folks on this list for your great responses - = I'm
>> looking into/following up on them.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>=
>> wrote:
>> > Matt the Stone seems tighter than Fort Knox so to speak. =  It seems to be
>> > an
>> > extension of where Tonic had been going meaning a monthly rotational
>> > curator
>> > and about the only way to connect was to go there and = 'hang' as they say
>> > which is something that frustrates me with a lot of the = 'scene' here
>> > when
>> > time is so limited at least for me.
>> > There is also a similiar place in Brooklyn where I am = that's called
>> > Issue
>> > Project Room.  They atleast provide their contacts = though it too is
>> > rather
>> > tight though a couple on this list have played there so = perhaps they can
>> > reflect to you.
>> > Are you playing the Red Room I think it's called in = Baltimore?  We tried
>> > to
>> > get Chinapainting there, it's supposed to be the cat's = meow down there.
>> > If you haven't checked out places in Williamsburg = (Brooklyn) there are a
>> > few.  One that is a neat place, open to a lot of diff = stuff but
>> > unfortunately doesn't do well with walk in traffic is a = place called the
>> > Stain.  Zebulon is also good but harder to get = in.
>> > More if you need but rushing for now.
>> > Luck with it all...
>> > Jim
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> www.markfrancombe.com
> http://vimeo.com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%2= 0Synch
>




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch

------_=_NextPart_001_01C9AE1C.F3D6B3A2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 14:29:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C273E3BE8B; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1201 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:29:00 UTC X-SpamGroup: 2000 X-CM-Cat: Undefined:Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=iHZi6sfSRN8A:10 a=EdaopJW1hLUA:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=IWK_OyG1kWQCu8qiyKcA:9 a=iBZBeh8WB7AkpuXI4pmFfoxtv1YA:4 a=hpF-ijbX5cwA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Y2VNeNrzAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=HQ31llbKAAAA:8 a=X3hPDCbEAAAA:8 a=_FgdkvMb-SJ2FyYhNiwA:9 a=32HJcRTBGA5dPFabpAgA:7 a=20lccROlddddkOyosodysZ__fWkA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=BWugD9615LMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Message-ID: <4894117ED6CE4874A7F0EF428B1272EA@graphix> From: "rick miller" To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Subject: Re: looping/live tracking what do you call it Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:09:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C9ADFA.FD28AB60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:29:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C9ADFA.FD28AB60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whaterever you call it that you do, is essentially my thing also. Minus = the vocals ofcourse, since I fail their without question. rick ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Owens=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: looping/live tracking what do you call it Just a general question here..I am getting pretty good at building = foundations for instrumental or vocal pieces, but don't do a lot of just = ambient type stuff where you just layer a bunch of noises together, but = in my rack I have keys and organ and a good bass sound and drum samples = to make a basic foundation that I can improve over with my acoustic = instruments, but is that really looping per se? Not having heard a lot = of what ya'll do, I'm not really sure, am kind of operating in a vacuum. = So I guess here is the question,,,,what is looping? As long as you have = no sequenced tracks, build I all live, is that still looping? (maybe = it's like opening a can of worms on a Bluegrass list with the question = "what is Bluegrass anyway?", I hope so, lol) =20 Andy Owens ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C9ADFA.FD28AB60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whaterever you call it that you do, is = essentially=20 my thing also. Minus the vocals ofcourse, since I fail their without=20 question.
 
rick
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andy=20 Owens
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 = 9:15=20 AM
Subject: looping/live tracking = what do=20 you call it

Just a general question here=85=85I am getting = pretty good at=20 building foundations for instrumental or vocal pieces, but don=92t do = a lot of=20 just ambient type stuff where you just layer a bunch of noises = together, but=20 in my rack I have keys and organ and a good bass sound and drum = samples to=20 make a basic foundation that I can improve over with my acoustic = instruments,=20 but is that really looping per se? Not having heard a lot of what = ya=92ll do,=20 I=92m not really sure, am kind of operating in a vacuum.  So I = guess here=20 is the question,,,,what is looping? As long as you have no sequenced = tracks,=20 build I all live, is that still looping? (maybe it=92s like opening a = can of=20 worms on a Bluegrass list with the question =93what is Bluegrass = anyway?=94, I=20 hope so, lol)

 

Andy = Owens

------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C9ADFA.FD28AB60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 14:34:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4813BE95; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238078048; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=esj2aOBKvXLZ6czHBAORQ+kGOnM=; b=U4xeL1fPYcBVaIX48OBskQZcsxY2PUbCk74oZpBkZ0erTFsgx/FBPbee2YJav5Q+ 0dwvGwpYdROnaD3De9iXsqYe7opXit5Dqmr9EUmhvpHsFn2CJGIQulz4dl39pOTM; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=iHZi6sfSRN8A:10 a=EdaopJW1hLUA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=IWK_OyG1kWQCu8qiyKcA:9 a=pZKMD9cLPSTwc_HgpxJrbSAQMWwA:4 a=v47ZLdibA2YA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Y2VNeNrzAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=HQ31llbKAAAA:8 a=X3hPDCbEAAAA:8 a=_FgdkvMb-SJ2FyYhNiwA:9 a=jJVsHGjzO_C0XsEHwxsA:7 a=4qIdigWm9FFyl5p4AdHTuBJIY9QA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=BWugD9615LMA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002201c9ae1f$eb0d33e0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Subject: Re: looping/live tracking what do you call it Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:34:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9ADFE.638DDDF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:34:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9ADFE.638DDDF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alot of good stuff here: = http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=3Dlivelooping&view=3Dplaylists Jeff http://jeffduke.org ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Owens=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 9:15 AM Subject: looping/live tracking what do you call it Just a general question here..I am getting pretty good at building = foundations for instrumental or vocal pieces, but don't do a lot of just = ambient type stuff where you just layer a bunch of noises together, but = in my rack I have keys and organ and a good bass sound and drum samples = to make a basic foundation that I can improve over with my acoustic = instruments, but is that really looping per se? Not having heard a lot = of what ya'll do, I'm not really sure, am kind of operating in a vacuum. = So I guess here is the question,,,,what is looping? As long as you have = no sequenced tracks, build I all live, is that still looping? (maybe = it's like opening a can of worms on a Bluegrass list with the question = "what is Bluegrass anyway?", I hope so, lol) =20 Andy Owens ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9ADFE.638DDDF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alot of good stuff here: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=3Dlivelooping&view=3Dplayl= ists
 
Jeff
 
http://jeffduke.org
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andy=20 Owens
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 = 9:15=20 AM
Subject: looping/live tracking = what do=20 you call it

Just a general question here=85=85I am getting = pretty good at=20 building foundations for instrumental or vocal pieces, but don=92t do = a lot of=20 just ambient type stuff where you just layer a bunch of noises = together, but=20 in my rack I have keys and organ and a good bass sound and drum = samples to=20 make a basic foundation that I can improve over with my acoustic = instruments,=20 but is that really looping per se? Not having heard a lot of what = ya=92ll do,=20 I=92m not really sure, am kind of operating in a vacuum.  So I = guess here=20 is the question,,,,what is looping? As long as you have no sequenced = tracks,=20 build I all live, is that still looping? (maybe it=92s like opening a = can of=20 worms on a Bluegrass list with the question =93what is Bluegrass = anyway?=94, I=20 hope so, lol)

 

Andy = Owens

------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C9ADFE.638DDDF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 14:55:15 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E66F23BE8E; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238079313; bh=DpLCpzX7JDIC+uqHsA9uUIVa9SdScyMIhc7JyXAOMAI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V+P9VMdu0qNfi1SZFpqWi3JFeRg4OoSe8s1wIvKCRqJQ4F7ybGst48DoRhkRmc29aVksF3qUY+Bs/9sECPXhnFSbJ9bLkzgUaw3MbGRdC3Q4I7VtapX3/cZ6O3rp1zx4c2G7wkdL2iqtwgpHWyuVJQcrCiXbi5DQUJFo7AKK1DM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PEf9W693Q0CBRBcNWehh3l6GLfJXpqpalhdUtNLzdZwF86yOUBZsVnZwZVof3p3W5uai6Zu/UHosbqfQi7n1ph5/zcYzIlmCCJ/uHkjACZT2313wMhr9MMvbMzql+tixS5wogjUNJSRVt58sAZ68hyJXH0tuk92Pbc+J5yBuXtM=; Message-ID: <277606.55028.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QtWF.UkVM1n7XSX24xrfMqo.lsAJUZ5FLVdrMjPGIoXlg6TlKxaqqwpdF.inu7cck7uhl5kxcgCos3KcN78hlGtYSOAHJYIPn5bEn5IjXWYlAJdqIbFP0gBwFedsrGkX3dvor.ddDwsuHsdaLyhb0L5oZiktVs72P_iPqxcSxixRo4RdhXQlkew- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 07:55:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:55:14 +0000 (UTC) ha ha! man i am thinking about going back to hardwareland after my 2 firewi= re soundcards broke and my macbook laptop firewire port fried,all at once c= an u believe it!=0ALuis=0A> =0A> I'm really tempted to get another pedalboa= rd and put a=0A> Digitech Timebender - along with the Boss Slicer - on it..= .=0A> But no... no more hardware, Buzap... Just resist... Save=0A> your tim= e & money for laptop setup... ;-)=0A> =0A> rgds=0A> Buzap=0A> =0A> -- =0A> = Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate +=0A> Telefonansc= hluss f=FCr nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=3DOM.AD.PD003K11308= T4569a=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 15:28:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E586D3BE95; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3614 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:28:44 UTC Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:28:17 -0500 References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:28:44 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > looks like the scales they picked are all based on major modes with > the exception of 1. > So... as a harmonizer its pretty useless until they add more scales > or make it user definable. All of the other Eventide harmonizers have user defined scales. I don't see why the PitchFactor would be any different. I'll check my manual and let you know. As for it being "useless" if it doesn't have them, that seems like quite an exaggeration. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 15:31:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDA2D3BE93; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3606 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:31:21 UTC Message-id: <4948B1FE-9E1F-463B-AFFC-C6B865DA3DAA@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-711--74863476 MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:30:57 -0500 References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-711--74863476 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > Been playing around with it? Comments? I'm all ears.. Just a little bit so far, but I will really play around with it this weekend. There are a couple of good demos on YouTube, I'm told. I will try to find the links. Jeff --Apple-Mail-711--74863476 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


Been playing around with it?  Comments?  I'm all ears..

Just a little bit so far, but I will really play around with it this weekend. There are a couple of good demos on YouTube, I'm told. I will try to find the links.

Jeff
--Apple-Mail-711--74863476-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 15:36:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65FAD3BEA0; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:36:06 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Digitech Timebender To: "L.Angulo" , Loopers Delight Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <72577.73409.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:36:09 +0000 (UTC) It has 20 seconds of looping time, but can anyone tell us how much DELAY time it has? Can this compete with the Boss DD-20? > well this does look like a killer pedal ive been checking out the videos > Then again it looks like you either use the Looper or the delays but not > both > > http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/TimeBender.php From joyjackzxcvbnmn@msn.com Thu Mar 26 15:41:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 310 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:41:41 UTC Received: from blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.162]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503103BE7E; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BLU142-W14 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s23.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 26 Mar 2009 08:36:32 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9e1a5535-97b7-475e-9681-a6b1f1ac8fc5_" X-Originating-IP: [212.100.71.10] Reply-To: From: JOY JACK Subject: Dear Friend Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:36:31 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2009 15:36:32.0054 (UTC) FILETIME=[A36D3D60:01C9AE28] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_9e1a5535-97b7-475e-9681-a6b1f1ac8fc5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friend=20 =20 Greetings in the name of God=2CPls let this not sound strange to you for my= only surviving lawyer who would have done this died early this year. =20 i prayed and got your email id from your country guestbook. 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Hoping t= o hear from you soon. NAME: __________SURNAME:__________________SEX: _____= AGE: ______MARITAL: _______________COUNTRY: ______ CONTACT ADDRESS: ________________________PHONE NO#___________FAX NO#_______= __________OCCUPATION: ______________ waiting for you information reply:me through this my private email address:mrsjoyjackson2009@yahoo.fr =20 MRS.JOYJACK SON= --_9e1a5535-97b7-475e-9681-a6b1f1ac8fc5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Friend
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Greetings in the name of God=2CPls= let this not sound strange to you for my only surviving lawyer who would h= ave done this died early this year.
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i prayed and got your em= ail id from your country guestbook. I am MRS JOYJACK SON from London=2CI am= 58 years old=2Ci am suffering from a long time cancer of the lungs which a= lso affected my brain=2Cfrom all indication my conditions is really deterio= rating and it is quite obvious that=2C according to my doctors they have ad= vised me that i may not live for the next two months=2Cthis is because the = cancer stage has gotten to a very bad stage.
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I was brought = up from a motherless babies home was married to my late husband for twenty = years without a child=2Cmy husband died in a fatal motor accident Before hi= s death we were true believers.Since his death I decided not to re-marry=2C= I sold all my inherited belongings and deposited all the sum of 10million d= ollars with a First Inland Bank.
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Presently=2C this money is= still with them and the management just wrote me as the true owner to come= forward to receive the money for keeping it so long or rather issue a lett= er of authorization to somebody to receive it on my behalf since I can not = come over because of my illness or they get it confisticated.
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= --_9e1a5535-97b7-475e-9681-a6b1f1ac8fc5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 15:52:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F50B3BE9E; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:52:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238082772; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=vJt013Zia9GbGVGBKMlr9cx0ErA=; b=G2/jT6KTlOtpfEv9Cnxbit8+qRAI1gp8YQJP78DCabfXb3AIVBLzEChanV8oYaWx 9RnsTn/ONTtvTML4+8+tO6WaLuhvLCqRURsrQCn3iD/G3h3E4Gw8j4vU0NPK6N7O; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=npSTjfjWAAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=-JRucX3qwn8op_OuE2gA:9 a=A54dHU3_qt7L9UgqndcA:7 a=_o4nexjF-y1OerSVYMGumX3VvtgA:4 a=JqzK7hVu6n4A:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c9ae2a$eb614650$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <72577.73409.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Digitech Timebender Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:52:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:52:53 +0000 (UTC) It has 5 seconds of delay and 20 of loop time. ftp://ftp.digitech.com/pub/PDFs/Manuals/TimeBender/Timebender%20Manual%2018-0686-A.pdf Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Baldwin" To: "L.Angulo" ; "Loopers Delight" Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Digitech Timebender > It has 20 seconds of looping time, but can anyone tell us how much DELAY > time it has? Can this compete with the Boss DD-20? > > >> well this does look like a killer pedal ive been checking out the videos >> Then again it looks like you either use the Looper or the delays but not >> both >> >> http://www.digitech.com/products/Pedals/TimeBender.php > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 16:07:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64FA43BE98; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:07:31 -0500 References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <_IDaQD.A.nyD.Lh6yJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:07:39 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > looks like the scales they picked are all based on major modes with > the exception of 1. > So... as a harmonizer its pretty useless until they add more scales > or make it user definable. You're right. No user definable or more "exotic" scales at present. That doesn't mean they won't add them though. See thread: http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/t/5368.aspx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 16:13:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B737A3BEB9; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:12:59 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <277606.55028.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20090326161259.37140@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <277606.55028.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19kYRFeJhtkrYQe2bJC7WURiDVgxiUicqrBmB9Rdb eW46jjzfZPfMIvbr3svb1PWGcb6AETNhDKOQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: v5v8fut3bGInQ9BtlmVnjENvcmZ1Ztxx X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:13:01 +0000 (UTC) > ha ha! man i am thinking about going back to hardwareland after my 2 > firewire soundcards broke and my macbook laptop firewire port fried,all at once > can u believe it! > Luis Hey Luis, Ouch, that sounds really ugly. The more I hear such stories, the more I love my RC-50 ;-) If you need comfort: just think of all the _weight_ you don't have to carry around anymore :) Buzap -- Neu: GMX FreeDSL Komplettanschluss mit DSL 6.000 Flatrate + Telefonanschluss für nur 17,95 Euro/mtl.!* http://dsl.gmx.de/?ac=OM.AD.PD003K11308T4569a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 19:50:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3CEC3BE7C; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:50:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Message-id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:50:07 -0400 References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <1O8h1C.A.FqD.By9yJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:50:25 +0000 (UTC) > On Mar 26, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > >> looks like the scales they picked are all based on major modes with >> the exception of 1. >> So... as a harmonizer its pretty useless until they add more scales >> or make it user definable. > On Mar 26, 2009, at 12:07 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > You're right. No user definable or more "exotic" scales at present. > That doesn't mean they won't add them though. > > See thread: > > http://forum.eventide.com/cs/forums/t/5368.aspx Thanks Jeff, I started that thread... just thought I'd mention it here too.... Teddy -- PS. -- http://teddyjam.com new live recordings, always -- http://myspace.com/teddykjam friend me -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 19:53:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D2A93BE91; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:53:21 -0500 References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:53:43 +0000 (UTC) > > Thanks Jeff, > > I started that thread... Yeah, so you did. I realized that as soon as I posted. My bad. Well, you're right about the lack of user definable scales, as well as the lack of more "exotic" scales. The other Eventide units have user definable scales, but maybe the PF can't handle them for some reason? Or maybe those algorithms weren't ready, but they wanted to start shipping units now instead of later? Any response yet from Eventide? I still think the pedal is pretty remarkable. And it'll only get better thanks to future updates. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 21:32:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4E953BE8B; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49CBF44E.80002@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:31:58 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ProTools and Bootcamp References: <725820.95919.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <23716998.1237932494948.JavaMail.root@m05> <49CA261E.9080406@soundscapes.us> <9291065.1237995319078.JavaMail.root@m05> In-reply-to: <9291065.1237995319078.JavaMail.root@m05> Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:32:19 +0000 (UTC) J Johans wrote: > simply because all of my illegal plugins are windows =) Understood. You might wish to see if Pro Tools has what you need. You may find a lot of your VST are covered there. I have a lot of freeware VSTs so I understand your situation. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 21:55:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 303B33BE8A; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:55:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090326161259.37140@gmx.net> References: <277606.55028.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090326161259.37140@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:54:59 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903261454y25d59810qb197bcf78c22d5bc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ad4dc6e00204660cab94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:55:16 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ad4dc6e00204660cab94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > If you need comfort: just think of all the _weight_ you don't have to carry > around anymore :) > I have a bad back... so I get other people to carry stuff!!! Try it.. it works!! -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5ad4dc6e00204660cab94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Buzap B= uzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
If you need comfort: just think of all the = _weight_ you don't have to carry around anymore :)

I have a bad back... so I get other people to carry stuff!!!
Try it.. it works!!



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--001636c5ad4dc6e00204660cab94-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 22:53:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDA613BE87; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:05:01 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > >> >> Thanks Jeff, >> >> I started that thread... > > > Yeah, so you did. I realized that as soon as I posted. My bad. > > Well, you're right about the lack of user definable scales, as well as > the lack of more "exotic" scales. The other Eventide units have user > definable scales, but maybe the PF can't handle them for some reason? > Or maybe those algorithms weren't ready, but they wanted to start > shipping units now instead of later? Any response yet from Eventide? Maybe Eventide needs to separate it from the way more expensive lineup.. > I still think the pedal is pretty remarkable. And it'll only get better > thanks to future updates. > > Jeff Hope so; lets see.. if no more harmonizings are added, it's nogo for me. I was hoping to be able to replace my Digitech TSR-24S; not that I don't like it, just to downscale my rig sizewise as I don't utilize all the noughty TSR features. Mostly 4-tap delay, harmonizing and a bit of reverb, and often controlled by envelope follover or prog.gate. I realize the PitchFactor doesn't have all this, but I might be able to live with less.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 26 23:29:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76FA73BE84; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49CC0FD1.4090101@soundscapes.us> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:29:21 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To Galactic Travels Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:29:33 +0000 (UTC) GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00) on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special Focus on UK synthesist Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Elemental" by Ian Boddy on DiN Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. Listen at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls on the internet. From bacheca@annunci.it Fri Mar 27 01:45:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 11391 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:45:07 UTC Received: from email.taonet.at (email.taonet.at [217.116.180.11]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346DC3BE7E; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ([127.0.0.1]) with MailEnable ESMTP; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:23:28 +0100 From: "eBay" Subject: Spedizione e imballaggio gratuiti: fattori importanti nelle Inserzioni piu rilevanti Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:17:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090327014507.346DC3BE7E@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
saw this on thegearpage.net webpage yesterday=2C posted fr= om 3-3-09. thought i'd share:

here's my initial impressions:

= - I/you have never played a delay pedal like this.
- It has a huge amoun= t of versatility. Easily the most versatile delay pedal I've ever played. t= he designer kept looking over and saying things like=2C "that pedal does th= at sound? i didn't even know it could do that!" so many new sounds to be ha= d with just a little bit of exploring.
- this pedal can out-mode-7 the p= s3 on any day
- here's a list of the features I can remember:
digital= delay
- nice and clean. your basic digital delay.
analog
- great = analog simulation=2C rivals my dd-7.
ducking delays
- digital and an= alog style=2C as well a new style of ducking that only repeats what you ver= y recently played=2C so things don't get too messy.
reverse
- not muc= h to say=2C just a nice good reverse.
envelope
- this mode only works= on sustained notes. it basically cops the slicer tone.
looper
- 20 s= econds=2C left pedal starts/repeats=2C right pedal stops/clears.
tone k= nob
- this affects every single delay type and the looper. from treble-c= ut-and-very-bassy to bass-cut-and-very-trebly
strum to set
- hold dow= n the right pedal and mute your strings. with all down strokes=2C strum out= any 6-hit pattern you can think of. when you turn on the delays=2C they wi= ll repeat in this pattern. you can also tap the tempo with the right footsw= itch.
modulation
- this can be applied to any setting from nice and s= ubtly to wacky and warbly.
voicings
- this is where the pedal really = shines. this affects the repeats. it can turn the repeats into up or down 2= semitones=2C 3 st=2C 4 st=2C 5 st=2C 6 st=2C 7 st=2C 8 st=2C 9 st=2C 10 st= =2C 11 st=2C 12 st or 24 semitones. it also has arpeggiator modes. i've ser= iously never heard a delay pedal make sounds like this. great for ethereal/= celestial sounds. also=2C with the looper=2C you can set it so that you loo= p in an octave down and then as soon as you repeat the loop it goes back up= to normal pitch. then=2C you can play over the loop in any of the above sh= ifts.
expression pedal compatability
- using an expression pedal=2C = you can fully control any parameter (except delay types) or combination the= reof. you can get some ridiculous sounds with some creative use.

i'm= know i'm forgetting lots of things but that's the first impression. keep y= our eyes on this pedal!
video coming soon
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 02:48:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2E793BE89; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:48:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1200 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:48:19 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238120898; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=5S8+HqmitztQ4icyB47M+gNb0X4=; b=Eg9sfJk5CDUc4h5dRDFzDYVB04VQoSr98Zqt58yw91Sbs4uv7j/85T7mIruWkCn8 1eKFrkI5JhBD03Q4GcL4j5+5XU+klZkzhGVaMJsv9inyBcSBsc8I27Q1tdb9hcjE; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=R75zVdMQXCAA:10 a=21A6H6HJkK8A:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=pwQh5V1U8TWrF0EUpaYA:9 a=M2Xf2Gxq6lnu5O6r4sffZ4XSeZIA:4 a=M3PvEdNFSBYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <06.6B.15137.2C93CC94@smtp03.embarq.synacor.com> To: Subject: RE: Teresa Andersson/other YouTubers worth viewing... Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:28:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcmsFvAZtiKuDfU0Rt26Mrc+HWBvXgCbHOug x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:48:19 +0000 (UTC) > I thought this was quite well done. Wonder what she's using for > loopers. Definitely brilliant! I thought I saw a DL4 in her pedal chain? Here is another fine use of looping on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4vd9OVLO7Q All ye proggies like myself will enjoy this!!! Peace. Ed in NJ http://www.myspace.com/edward_yuhas From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 03:34:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA2A63BE88; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:34:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238124895; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=nNEBAFuGNRB/pZ61mvldIkD5qds=; b=oO+PlYoQFIljvTMYlTAf3MuL07ULOCfyL9zNfUsyvohjp3u3OO9peNcpi1sXtCw1 LC2hRPYIxo3wllto0P/sTUkPZceb3Pbo5fqYKAHYdBeEMPe/PUXdl9WN1F0n0MLi; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=q2z9l9tBAAAA:8 a=SngVvUu4d5WjL7907sEA:9 a=zTmBQn_Qcq1q8edpx-V_J1ll_vsA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000501c9ae8c$e134acf0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: OT: little bitty DAW Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:34:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:34:55 +0000 (UTC) I found this and was kind of amazed. The program itself is half the size of the PDF manual. http://www.wavosaur.com DAW 540kb PDF 750kb It actually works pretty well. Midi, vst support, some separate channel editing, skins, oh, and of course loop mode! I haven't really tested it much. There is some pretty bad spelling in the manual. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 05:20:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD0973BE84; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WGqaCarCTuiBruw6MvKYxBKLTt5uyqpNwwVrCGP/5JU=; b=fAJOA/aYEsYYrjbz9igYlV4Rhr3xzbt6FFq8xopmAtxC7wV6XqM/BoIpzCanvPGRo+ 6CwlGse3xi5MxSZRBTWNfSyObuosskZusjqoxPmXwlPXdSp+/wwC2W89NRbSMkB/rKL5 ZMYCzXtjplfvZYZlFv7jgZfSW7hCAOV/eyGz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Nl5OOXye3d2FEWM6p4n6vSua3Z9vqcy1MWS4zDv6WMdNjGvZt8IoFY8zWRszbKsYtg Jut2DpYjGDX3F+gEoPEVk39GZ83V4VW8O6JPswouNBofNIasrNHXEAKXBKqfcpowgDWS 8dk952FGjmdBbIVYrhvVtZ1epXZodRdoXsyVs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:20:43 -0500 Message-ID: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e1d22efd038046612e4cb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:20:44 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e1d22efd038046612e4cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, so I've gone to this site ( http://synchnonsynch.blogspot.com/2006/08/fcb1010-instructions.html ) and have followed all the steps and am still getting nothing. Does anyone know of a video that gives a step by step instruction on how to get the fcb1010 to work with the edp? I have a midi cable going to/from fcb1010 and edp, and I have a regular cable going from both, as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. --0016368e1d22efd038046612e4cb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, so I've gone to this site (=A0http://synchnonsynch.blogspot.co= m/2006/08/fcb1010-instructions.html ) and have followed all the steps a= nd am still getting nothing. Does anyone know of a video that gives a step = by step instruction on how to get the fcb1010 to work with the edp? I have = a midi cable going to/from fcb1010 and edp, and I have a regular cable goin= g from both, as well. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 08:22:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9942B3BE87; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:22:49 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903261454y25d59810qb197bcf78c22d5bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090327082249.229670@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <277606.55028.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090326161259.37140@gmx.net> <9ab0c76f0903261454y25d59810qb197bcf78c22d5bc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18IOoN9TBkIUidaK1nDCHSg6pmvAHAGx1ulVWWmKS BU+bnvRpHKbwL+qGGYeQtwnsGwIHbZA9uQ5w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: uOCnIf4MTlI8QMF+jGlrwx9OU2poZZkq X-FuHaFi: 0.8100000000000001 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:22:51 +0000 (UTC) > I have a bad back... so I get other people to carry stuff!!! > Try it.. it works!! Well, you must be either very rich or very popular... ;-) Buzap. -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 08:39:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C0B63BE87; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=8fGvBUHgoT6TLNQvvdLNYpPz37bHa9R+khoBeUL9Rdg=; b=ouighFOuGv+a1wyrMVDpSOZsc7tlociOklXwoewpXq3dKdKjHf/1wtz2eTFIKWP+hk etXBxkIT07UAJb76T/mcadTHYxlFpvKTYT0/oQBUMAjLGBsimq62FUiwx+5whG9lAXsZ f5L1KWA7fIyB1M+Va1rsCTB/jG+ZOEH3/TgJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JumQvW2jaSZsQncHWjCgINJN0fqLEzKk3odv3jYIo/PZMSHmV2FDaZzdy+LA6z1w9h HoIPXcC95XY7ZZZpuTZgNmGcomY9un5LX/nDu6VGohUJU+6pko2Q9cdVDIHBn2eEON3X jwZ3oyXfxqbWo8ck1t29aCBGLs/dOfMfSjP4Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:39:13 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903270139r73096e09u7e0696f125eaaffa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:39:14 +0000 (UTC) Send MIDI Note events to the EDP. Don't forget about the note off-set in the EDP settings. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Timothy Miller wr= ote: > Ok, so I've gone to this site > (=A0http://synchnonsynch.blogspot.com/2006/08/fcb1010-instructions.html )= and > have followed all the steps and am still getting nothing. Does anyone kno= w > of a video that gives a step by step instruction on how to get the fcb101= 0 > to work with the edp? I have a midi cable going to/from fcb1010 and edp, = and > I have a regular cable going from both, as well. Any help would be greatl= y > appreciated. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 08:41:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3ACE3BE8C; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903270139r73096e09u7e0696f125eaaffa@mail.gmail.com> References: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270139r73096e09u7e0696f125eaaffa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:40:49 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903270140w4f5f68dbv720a73852993842c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163662e5c6767194046615b1b4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:41:05 +0000 (UTC) --00163662e5c6767194046615b1b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > note off-set Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use NOTES, but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...? -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --00163662e5c6767194046615b1b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boy= sen <perboysen@= gmail.com> wrote:
note off-set

Whats that Per? My instructions he foll= owed show that he has to use NOTES, but is/was there a note OFF setting I f= orgot...?

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--00163662e5c6767194046615b1b4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 08:43:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB49C3BE8E; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:42:56 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new pedal in town From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636b4322c04af31046615b92b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:43:12 +0000 (UTC) --001636b4322c04af31046615b92b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn wrote: > Digitech TSR-24S; Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick run down on how the features you mentioned works, env follower and whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing anyone know online manual anywhere? M -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636b4322c04af31046615b92b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Si= nn <vansi= nn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
Digitech TSR-24S;

Im very interested in this old devi= ce... Can you give me a quick run down on how the features you mentioned wo= rks, env follower and whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing

anyone k= now online manual anywhere?

M

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--001636b4322c04af31046615b92b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 08:44:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7A793BE8E; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:44:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20090327082249.229670@gmx.net> References: <277606.55028.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090326161259.37140@gmx.net> <9ab0c76f0903261454y25d59810qb197bcf78c22d5bc@mail.gmail.com> <20090327082249.229670@gmx.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:44:21 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903270144u2775f6b4k877acadf6ae43781@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502dc42147b37046615beaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:44:37 +0000 (UTC) --00504502dc42147b37046615beaf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was both... I'm now neither... (but I have a teenage step-son who needs beer money) On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > > I have a bad back... so I get other people to carry stuff!!! > > Try it.. it works!! > > Well, you must be either very rich or very popular... ;-) > > Buzap. > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen= : > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger01 > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch --00504502dc42147b37046615beaf Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was both... I'm now neither... (but I have a teenage step-son who nee= ds beer money)

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:= 22 AM, Buzap Buzap <b= uzap@gmx.net> wrote:

> I have a bad back... so I get other people to carry stuff!!!
> Try it.. it works!!

Well, you must be either very rich or very popular... ;-)

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--00504502dc42147b37046615beaf-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 08:45:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF9843BE91; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> References: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:39:07 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903270139r6b164f91m6c1021bb7eb71b85@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7e0455c3d38046615abac Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:45:36 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d7e0455c3d38046615abac Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thats, my OLD blogspot site... but i dont see why it shouldnt work, so Im embarrassed!! Are you getting nothing? or weird behavior? Are the cables plugged in correctly? MIDI OUT on FCB1010 to MIDI IN on EDP? Mark On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Timothy Miller wrote: > Ok, so I've gone to this site ( > http://synchnonsynch.blogspot.com/2006/08/fcb1010-instructions.html ) and > have followed all the steps and am still getting nothing. Does anyone know > of a video that gives a step by step instruction on how to get the fcb1010 > to work with the edp? I have a midi cable going to/from fcb1010 and edp, and > I have a regular cable going from both, as well. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d7e0455c3d38046615abac Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thats, my OLD blogspot site... but i dont see why it shouldnt work, so Im e= mbarrassed!!
Are you getting nothing? or weird behavior? Are the cables= plugged in correctly? MIDI OUT on FCB1010 to MIDI IN on EDP?

Mark
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Timothy Mil= ler <timmylm= iller@gmail.com> wrote:
Ok, so I've gone to this site (=A0http://synchno= nsynch.blogspot.com/2006/08/fcb1010-instructions.html ) and have follow= ed all the steps and am still getting nothing. Does anyone know of a video = that gives a step by step instruction on how to get the fcb1010 to work wit= h the edp? I have a midi cable going to/from fcb1010 and edp, and I have a = regular cable going from both, as well. Any help would be greatly appreciat= ed.



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--0016e6d7e0455c3d38046615abac-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 08:55:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46B533BE94; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=WIQ/XE7UvYm2kG6g9rMnB+H5v1un9s6nAnM2bbs6nlg=; b=wX037rCH5QXGVQvJKOU0SH8fOXceIEdYmeR8idIe6nZ81p2BDdk14zAIDUyex0XTxK JaRcQfJs6dKjfH/lrJ/nETuHl5T6EwRvjiusVxC1tgpV3+VXVyw7OmE9WKVfjRc3p4+S R6v+9IPSVAuAeKanC4y/K6HRBLrhakH6GTro8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=d+mKHH13TcK2k1KGCq2yVxIWD5xbBp5M4YH58fLHtgkVA3xmYlNAlPIR7Hy/+QqXXe YB0kJfdvhEG9BuE/7XEgV6ERHa8a+JyT1MlS6Kn85n+fg+SHO+gwqNmAkto3C6gdy9KZ 32k4LZH3Sf1NVGz63nPsbxpnAC3FumF2QU36E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903270140w4f5f68dbv720a73852993842c@mail.gmail.com> References: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270139r73096e09u7e0696f125eaaffa@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903270140w4f5f68dbv720a73852993842c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:55:25 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903270155y10740bfcib7939dcde0d4652c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:55:27 +0000 (UTC) There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI Note numbers sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to move the midi not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note range if you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the same MIDI channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you don't know about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you send to the EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them too. "Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP manual, rather what it does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or something in EDP-ish...? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com 2009/3/27 mark francombe : > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >> note off-set > > Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use NOTES, > but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 09:08:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A73E93BE91; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903270155y10740bfcib7939dcde0d4652c@mail.gmail.com> References: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270139r73096e09u7e0696f125eaaffa@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903270140w4f5f68dbv720a73852993842c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270155y10740bfcib7939dcde0d4652c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:07:52 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903270207s6fd77490w9eaaee6b4bdadff2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9764f2e26f1046616122a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:08:08 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d9764f2e26f1046616122a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aha.. the Source Offset.. you confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per... But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note number adds up to the one you have chosen in Source Offset on your EDP On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI Note numbers > sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to move the midi > not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note range if > you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the same MIDI > channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you don't know > about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you send to the > EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them too. > "Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP manual, rather what it > does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or something in EDP-ish...? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > > > 2009/3/27 mark francombe : > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> > >> note off-set > > > > Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use > NOTES, > > but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...? > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d9764f2e26f1046616122a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Aha.. the Source Offset.. you confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per...
But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note number ad= ds up to the one you have chosen in Source Offset on your EDP

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI Note numbers
sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to move the midi
not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note range if
you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the same MIDI
channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you don't know
about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you send to the
EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them too.
"Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP manual, rather what= it
does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or something in EDP-ish..= .?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



2009/3/27 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per= Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
>>
>> note off-set
>
> Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use NO= TES,
> but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...?




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--0016e6d9764f2e26f1046616122a-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 09:15:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D00B13BEA2; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xB8Wdri7XIBuiJe1Y6yQFA5N/0KwUi0nNHdhsXreFpQ=; b=vqJscoMgc4Jn1DUPyy0njUzjXAewjfybKtnfV6mCqovzjmUGVZW/OD9COvLM7CThyz GnAiSRhOtyg4xGxxqgYZxZExzj7j9J/qbhyhEcv1kvshcf1/vwq3D1QGFeeH3v8uppLP P2YrX8gdOoiQ1EjAK9AVjAwFjuMcTZNvRAyQE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nruKFjVKBwHNc7JRlvRHT5VxRB3nRnJi+aAMFdRAVOLi9bgSD5YfIFMG2zi7T6sqsN 5aIrsViSNID+SmqJeGKUbDxhkwiu6dccGtVe8yiqwEpgfw6ZhEaVwM9Zo56HwqubALj2 DS/pkMKs3o246fvIXcvBEO2z7Ua3u3iqQ8pv8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:15:55 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903270215p704bcaf1n1f92bfdf65e40b0c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping/live tracking what do you call it From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:15:55 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > As long as you have no sequenced tracks, build I all live, is that still > looping? I'd say if you are making loops, you are looping. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 09:28:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 344E63BE93; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 170045596/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.185.211/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.185.211 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnQBAMQ4zElPRrnT/2dsb2JhbAAIzjqDdwaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,431,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="170045596" Message-ID: <49CC9E65.40801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:37:41 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: little bitty DAW References: <000501c9ae8c$e134acf0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000501c9ae8c$e134acf0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:28:17 +0000 (UTC) cheers Jeff, that looks pretty good, http://www.wavosaur.com For anyone into free VST plugins, navigate to their VST-Plugins section where they list a whole load of free stuff. andy Jeff Duke wrote: > I found this and was kind of amazed. The program itself is half the size > of the PDF manual. > http://www.wavosaur.com > > DAW 540kb > PDF 750kb > > It actually works pretty well. Midi, vst support, some separate channel > editing, skins, oh, and of course loop mode! I haven't really tested it > much. There is some pretty bad spelling in the manual. > > > Jeff > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 09:32:17 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BAA03BE93; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 170047326/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.185.211/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.185.211 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnYBAO85zElPRrnT/2dsb2JhbAAIj3u+SoN3Boc6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,431,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="170047326" Message-ID: <49CC9F58.7020301@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:41:44 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Saw this on thegearpage.net webpage, RE: Digitech Timebender References: <277606.55028.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20090326161259.37140@gmx.net> <9ab0c76f0903261454y25d59810qb197bcf78c22d5bc@mail.gmail.com> <20090327082249.229670@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20090327082249.229670@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Buzap Buzap wrote: >> I have a bad back... so I get other people to carry stuff!!! >> Try it.. it works!! > > Well, you must be either very rich or very popular... ;-) > > Buzap. or ask Per to your gig, as gear carrier he's unbeaten, andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 10:26:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 224C63BE94; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:26:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RENYELJHwN6aLzw9EoLVBgTdSL920Ubgg9b6gfxVTj4=; b=aBmoq7UyNuEn7HYYXAFxZy9gUtmldVIKcXiEKkqORKLsLLoa5u+o5fqfGx0YAU81E1 zQAxxBOod3DgkkZ6BA3nT9s8+eyc2xrjhSUVMGzbtqYRchucOnTOxDobELqUcCVwTvyr aMfU6oiQ53TpRosfn/R6PUWscD62hh3Q+DQig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=vyGij6YWGNlVXXTv/xaFoFG3EXIJrTgVTtNHirPKAoNS+lJGuQ6HY8pEY0e4bJ0jCk o+YZx31zbcsGOWiKtrwOhm3JqYr1D2vzLGRc5or4OO8IbZ873Pc++VsiGTcmJDpzo4KZ PxfcceyZW9idS07pjBoyjz9cXxXskiFy8nLmI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CC9E65.40801@tiscali.co.uk> References: <000501c9ae8c$e134acf0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> <49CC9E65.40801@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:26:22 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: little bitty DAW From: Raul Bonell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174c3c600c50c10466172aa1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:26:24 +0000 (UTC) --0015174c3c600c50c10466172aa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ha... 2009/3/27 andy butler > cheers Jeff, that looks pretty good, > > http://www.wavosaur.com > > For anyone into free VST plugins, navigate to their VST-Plugins section > where they list a whole load of free stuff. > > andy > > > Jeff Duke wrote: > >> I found this and was kind of amazed. The program itself is half the size >> of the PDF manual. >> http://www.wavosaur.com >> >> DAW 540kb >> PDF 750kb >> >> It actually works pretty well. Midi, vst support, some separate channel >> editing, skins, oh, and of course loop mode! I haven't really tested it >> much. There is some pretty bad spelling in the manual. >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> >> > -- Raul Bonell at Blogger: http://raulbonell.blogspot.com Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com --0015174c3c600c50c10466172aa1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ha...

2009/3/27 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
cheers Jeff, that looks pretty good,

http://www.wavosaur.c= om

For anyone into free VST plugins, navigate to their VST-Plugins section whe= re they list a whole load of free stuff.

andy


Jeff Duke wrote:
I found this and was kind of amazed. The program itself is half the size of= the PDF manual.
http://www.wavosaur.c= om

DAW 540kb
PDF 750kb

It actually works pretty well. Midi, vst support, some separate channel edi= ting, skins, oh, and of course loop mode! I haven't really tested it mu= ch. There is some pretty bad spelling in the manual.


Jeff







--
Raul Bonell= at Blogger: http://raulbonell.b= logspot.com
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com

--0015174c3c600c50c10466172aa1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 11:32:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 698193BE82; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GFDgLdCl66MNL6exukNn+LKZ7A26G0umcN+BnfTOwO0=; b=aaHIZErvBc/gbvhMmTfd6OF2M/2rsNKpQ4adw3RPFgise7fZ0UeukBdRp/2BgNqx3C 7mk5nm/3TM+7xAsPQNGP3ODKnssrPV1YdcvevpVUPu6jnos+E40Dfdfh5J5MTDR4VSBI Ht4YnmHTmS/qGw+h5z90Nsj+gE+ch1IoDBIL0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Vir4F+O/yE83h53+GB4G0GrquGz4juj5u4aLOl9D6YWC5xn6804lG7ND73Kq8/RQio iC2VylJlVYKm0QXWc+1EoW4uza6nKw5XK37PxLvCLXlapqDdudo2mDYTQyLzV9pgnNeA nlsZIQ/3rPYXrWdp3haHqHtmVpJHj7cRGvkNQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903270215p704bcaf1n1f92bfdf65e40b0c@mail.gmail.com> References: <864434907DE0E9429B16AD587941F73F03315E01@EXVBE010-2.exch010.intermedia.net> <66f9cc1e0903270215p704bcaf1n1f92bfdf65e40b0c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:32:11 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903270432o49eb47c8if77b29f5f1c17347@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: looping/live tracking what do you call it From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd147107196f9046618150c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:32:13 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd147107196f9046618150c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But what about if you are manipulating loops, is that also not looping? I would agree with the previous statement (I'm horrid at quoting) of "live looping" vs "looping". As I find both very valid, and enjoy doing/listening to both, but certainly find them to be different. Usually when I live loop, there is less texture tweaking slash knob/switch/slider/xy vector etc twiddling, due to more attention being focused on the creation of loops, ie playing instruments, banging a beat, etc... usually the sound is much more drawn out and slow changing (something I love live, when dancing - and I dance to everything from drones to beats heh - but not so much recorded) when live looping. When looping prerecorded loops (something we could call, just looping? as you are working with loops, and changing them live, and there is no sequencing...) it becomes more about frequency/rhythm/soundnotsound/ear pressure/et al... kind of like a dj not so restricted to looping fully made songs... but rather mixing parts of many songs together. Looping seems more from a specific idea, but translated with nowness and the flexibility that contains... whereas live looping seems more finding the nowness, and translating it to a specific idea via music... if philosophical wordplay means as much to you as it does to me (ie some find it saying nothing, some everything; count me in everything). -nn happyhumans.org On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Andy Owens wrote: > > As long as you have no sequenced tracks, build I all live, is that still > > looping? > > > I'd say if you are making loops, you are looping. > > per > > --000e0cd147107196f9046618150c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But what about if you are manipulating loops, is that also not looping?
=
I would agree with the previous statement (I'm horrid at quoting) o= f "live looping" vs "looping".

As I find both ve= ry valid, and enjoy doing/listening to both, but certainly find them to be = different.

Usually when I live loop, there is less texture tweaking slash knob/swi= tch/slider/xy vector etc twiddling, due to more attention being focused on = the creation of loops, ie playing instruments, banging a beat, etc... usual= ly the sound is much more drawn out and slow changing (something I love liv= e, when dancing - and I dance to everything from drones to beats heh - but = not so much recorded) when live looping.=A0 When looping prerecorded loops = (something we could call, just looping?=A0 as you are working with loops, a= nd changing them live, and there is no sequencing...) it becomes more about= frequency/rhythm/soundnotsound/ear pressure/et al... kind of like a dj not= so restricted to looping fully made songs... but rather mixing parts of ma= ny songs together.=A0 Looping seems more from a specific idea, but translat= ed with nowness and the flexibility that contains... whereas live looping s= eems more finding the nowness, and translating it to a specific idea via mu= sic... if philosophical wordplay means as much to you as it does to me (ie = some find it saying nothing, some everything; count me in everything).

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Andy Owens <andy@1800pathways.com> wrote:
> As long as you have no sequenced tracks, build= I all live, is that still
> looping?


I'd say if you are making loops, you are looping.

per


--000e0cd147107196f9046618150c-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 12:25:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1747D3BE8B; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JB/LZO1jPvlnSCdtpnRp90ErJlkxxkGKI//zHEs+DFU=; b=Kx5TFXk7nMu2HSCymM3WmG6L1ZsvVqSu9Ieb/jP1rkmtbn0ekDjjP4HQN3nVkSaT8I SRnT3vkS+uYoPXgadnGAZIQkXbHbknNFGNuURy6yoSpswUImMJOehlxpr1sxOTxH/Gb1 vGVZzBSku+3sQlHh4dq65vPzaDqJ2rssEb+2g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=vUJvsEZ5z4ZUaKo3gGnwdubyl2UXONPTdZ2TG8ldwrIEQyQ2yNjy6yAzm6f/sQ8ojE 78R+llR/KmhzuBuEhnYFlpbBRnCMNRqAj/5r9bjY2cKtYsXd9paz/guiTsJmd2wJlkvT qMsrSN8D80iX13ABattWkJi6yNwG4Q380ECcg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:24:59 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: a62513cc4da7cb74 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: beta testers wanted for new effect plug-in From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi, this plug-in is now released. http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html Thanks to all who helped test it. cheers, os. 2009/3/12 Os : > Hi, > > I have a new plug-in almost ready to release, and am interested to > give it to a few people to try out, just in case I missed anything > obvious in terms of bugs or missing features. > > It's a little like a Moog Freqbox > http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/articles/moogmf107.htm > > and is particularly suited to being used on guitars. > > I have Mac versions (AU & VST) ready now and a Windows VST will follow shortly. > > If anyone's interested, mail me off list. > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 13:00:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52A993BE89; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 173019098/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.185.211/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.185.211 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtMBADdqzElPRrnT/2dsb2JhbAAI0BiDdwaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,432,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="173019098" Message-ID: <49CCD005.305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:09:25 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: beta testers wanted for new effect plug-in References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:00:05 +0000 (UTC) Congrats looks neat, any audio demoes? sort of thing I'll be checking out when the "inevitable changeover to software" happens, ...which could be sometime in the next decade or 2 ;-) andy Os wrote: > Hi, > > this plug-in is now released. > > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html > > Thanks to all who helped test it. > > > cheers, > os. > > > 2009/3/12 Os : >> Hi, >> >> I have a new plug-in almost ready to release, and am interested to >> give it to a few people to try out, just in case I missed anything >> obvious in terms of bugs or missing features. >> >> It's a little like a Moog Freqbox >> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/articles/moogmf107.htm >> >> and is particularly suited to being used on guitars. >> >> I have Mac versions (AU & VST) ready now and a Windows VST will follow shortly. >> >> If anyone's interested, mail me off list. >> >> >> cheers, >> os. >> >> -- >> os@collective.co.uk >> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 13:36:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97C4B3BE8B; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vpww3Y3dzip+gEGDGGHI4Uh2bn7JV91HAI3tMbKY1Jw=; b=Qoowkv0ZEqdtXtt5bb6gdwpBlKFdMhWbMtIFk/d+Z92gC8DsMoaGwCa+tC7VS2SsIp iF/aHqtgSm3COEtyy3v8tHccQXCyUoWfVWVo8xRutrlh9siIkkvxbbYjsaxzLX/ZYqfy s+b8S7Syj28y/kcE7C8ZgW/vyovtle6lFu9PU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=v0SSJv1W9TfDFL7KR/enrEnHmIa4bxg2lNknhjRNPYRy+6zY2m6MtQIaTNL+OUg2W7 fxmfpK3HYdsC6Gf2RFYL5spaEOiD+65JDR2j1TLVz1CgNZ+/DK+I5o68IRY3+F9LuE/A zd7uv0s0+W8aHRR/7fOFPNBotYTG/JvYQjuK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <49CCD005.305@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49CCD005.305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:36:37 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 865d956d50bd2da0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OT: beta testers wanted for new effect plug-in From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Thanks. I've not done any audio demos yet. Any contributions gratefully received. :) cheers, os. 2009/3/27 andy butler : > Congrats > looks neat, > > any audio demoes? > > sort of thing I'll be checking out when the > "inevitable changeover to software" happens, > > ...which could be sometime in the next decade or 2 ;-) > > andy > > Os wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> this plug-in is now released. >> >> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/oomingmak.html >> >> Thanks to all who helped test it. >> >> >> cheers, >> os. >> >> >> 2009/3/12 Os : >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have a new plug-in almost ready to release, and am interested to >>> give it to a few people to try out, just in case I missed anything >>> obvious in terms of bugs or missing features. >>> >>> It's a little like a Moog Freqbox >>> http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov08/articles/moogmf107.htm >>> >>> and is particularly suited to being used on guitars. >>> >>> I have Mac versions (AU & VST) ready now and a Windows VST will follow >>> shortly. >>> >>> If anyone's interested, mail me off list. >>> >>> >>> cheers, >>> os. >>> >>> -- >>> os@collective.co.uk >>> http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ >>> http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ >>> >> >> >> > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 13:42:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8040D3BE87; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49CCD7BC.5070609@soundscapes.us> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:42:20 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #625 for March 26, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:42:31 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/090326.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #625 March 26, 2009. RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Ian Boddy. The Featured CD at Midnight was Elemental on DiN Records. Ian Boddy: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Ron Boots Mea Culpa Mea Culpa (Groove) Ruben Garcia Pulse Through the Looking Glass (Trance Port) Syndromeda The Vulture The Twilght Connection (Ricochet Dream) Max Corbacho Pure Being BreathStream (ad21) Steve Roach and Parts 8 - 13 Stream of Thought (Projekt) Erik Wollo 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ian Boddy Never Forever Elemental (DiN) Ian Boddy Stormfront Elemental (DiN) Ian Boddy If All the World Elemental (DiN) Was Blue Ian Boddy Foundry Elemental (DiN) Ian Boddy Reflex Elemental (DiN) Ian Boddy Flux Elemental (DiN) Ian Boddy All Roads Lead To Elemental (DiN) Home Ian Boddy Elementl Elemental (DiN) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Okefenokee 2002 on the Ricochet Dream label. Ricochet Gathering: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#apr Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 14:15:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AADF03BE8D; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:15:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [71.37.166.84] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: Is That Jazz Festival Video Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:15:09 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AEB4.252C3410" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2009 14:15:36.0142 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F7D9EE0:01C9AEE6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:15:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AEB4.252C3410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to Tony K for solving my video/audio syncing issues. Here is the = video of my performance at the "Is That Jazz" Experimental Music = Festival, at Seattle, WA, January 15, 2009. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-3278089502792758396 (Google) http://www.box.net/shared/kc146zhbns (box.net - stereo) I looked at my computer far too much than what I had planned, because I = had to press a button to answer my cell phone. It does not have an auto = answer. :) Kris > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Krispen Hartung >> I finally got around to "trying" to produce a video of my performance = at=20 >> the Is That Jazz Experimental Music Festival in Seatte, WA, January = 2009. They >> had someone recording the whole show camera. (MP3 version: >> http://www.box.net/shared/a0gxc61yzq ) >> >> However, I struggled for too many hours attemping to sync this direct >> recording with the video, with no luck. They were not aligned (off by = 3 or >> so seconds), and I'm just not competent enough with this technology = to=20 >> sync them. I tried altering the length of my direct recording and I = managed to >> sync it in my editing program, but then when I exported it to windows = >> media or mpeg, the exported file would be out of sync...strange. I = give up. >> >> Is anyone really good at this? I'll pay someone to do it. I can = provide=20 >> the source video file and the wav of my direct recording. I only need = the=20 >> first song in video format. >> >> Kris >> >> Kris Hartung >> www.krispenhartung.com >> info@krispenhartung.com >> >> >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AEB4.252C3410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to Tony K for solving my = video/audio syncing=20 issues. Here is the video of my performance at the "Is That Jazz" = Experimental=20 Music Festival, at Seattle, WA, January 15, 2009.
 
 
h= ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-3278089502792758396 (G= oogle)
 
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I looked at my computer far too much = than what I=20 had planned, because I had to press a button to answer my cell phone. It = does=20 not have an auto answer. :)
 
Kris
 

> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:03 = PM, Krispen=20 Hartung

>> I finally got around to "trying" to produce a = video of=20 my performance at
>> the Is That Jazz Experimental Music = Festival in=20 Seatte, WA, January 2009. They
>> had someone recording the = whole show=20 camera. (MP3 version:
>> http://www.box.net/shared/a0gxc61yzq=20 )
>>
>> However, I struggled for too many hours = attemping to=20 sync this direct
>> recording with the video, with no luck. = They were=20 not aligned (off by 3 or
>> so seconds), and I'm just not = competent=20 enough with this technology to
>> sync them. I tried altering = the=20 length of my direct recording and I managed to
>> sync it in my = editing=20 program, but then when I exported it to windows
>> media or = mpeg, the=20 exported file would be out of sync...strange. I give = up.
>>
>>=20 Is anyone really good at this? I'll pay someone to do it. I can provide=20
>> the source video file and the wav of my direct recording. I = only=20 need the
>> first song in video = format.
>>
>>=20 Kris
>>
>> Kris Hartung
>> www.krispenhartung.com
>>=20 info@krispenhartung.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- =
>=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-
> Tony
> =
>
------=_NextPart_000_03FE_01C9AEB4.252C3410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 14:27:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E13853BE91; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238164068; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=G2ieH+fwlya1say5Udkp3SwKZyY=; b=PMxkhWcnQSK+p36tvDRj4TJVU2jL5dQFVlNgUZ5BlkBpYPl3/XrdxcDt71XpRgbE Bd+W/kooKW+j7EaRYGT8e4V6xYZPh3k6kwatQMWlIwml9f83Ljz0zu+8wokZd307; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tSy4KMGkAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=OaPcMQ0k3Vzbck7CLHAA:9 a=c6vrOJlr7FxcxB0vXRQaFEWBZQYA:4 a=UD3EFyfc0L8A:10 a=vViZfcZP9qwA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=GpphXruQVzUhvMKPKAQA:9 a=VA3KA7xCaA8aSeeI9HEA:7 a=eaYI6LPHr1PTTJ49_-7RAqr5PsIA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003e01c9aee8$16292250$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:26:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9AEC6.8EB82440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:27:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9AEC6.8EB82440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.eventide.com/~/media/Files/Audio%20Support/PitchFactor/Everyon= e/PitchFactor_Manual_Eng.ashx J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:42 AM Subject: Re: new pedal in town On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn = wrote: Digitech TSR-24S; Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick run = down on how the features you mentioned works, env follower and = whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing anyone know online manual anywhere? M --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9AEC6.8EB82440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Subject: Re: new pedal in = town



On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn = <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk&g= t;=20 wrote:
Digitech=20 TSR-24S;

Im very interested in this old = device... Can=20 you give me a quick run down on how the features you mentioned works, = env=20 follower and whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing

anyone know = online=20 manual anywhere?

M

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------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C9AEC6.8EB82440-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 14:46:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D611F3BE94; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238165203; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=fTpxszKwepaKbStd/2JKgtpn80k=; b=nOeXlz467r+Dk2rCe4/grK/yKbATqjiUuB7PEjkWFje+3SWE2yhoUpmzv8is0mbP gFAwqp9+C73LxGZW09Mcts/UEYRaFI4IALDqoqkOWz86VGR7x1ZDKONxMrUBJBgu; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=D5dYxXJ7AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=tSy4KMGkAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=LqOlEC0H4ZPKEEKRbM0A:9 a=gZ9CYmUTEZriPfNgQjoA:7 a=z0YDiabBBiXknNhT_dcvkTP3xJwA:4 a=oqs56FR1YJwA:10 a=vViZfcZP9qwA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=RXLkLj5YovQ2v7gYn50A:9 a=yb9gDmA9N4YfG9SEjU4A:7 a=gkTQNy1Yko-DwHtkr731TWj9UOwA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <006301c9aeea$bab38fc0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c9aee8$16292250$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:45:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9AEC9.330E3B40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:46:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9AEC9.330E3B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry too much blood in my caffine system... quick start guide = http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-quickstart-engl.pdf manual http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-engl.pdf and I found them here: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/tsr24-main.htm J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: new pedal in town = http://www.eventide.com/~/media/Files/Audio%20Support/PitchFactor/Everyon= e/PitchFactor_Manual_Eng.ashx J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:42 AM Subject: Re: new pedal in town On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn = wrote: Digitech TSR-24S; Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick run = down on how the features you mentioned works, env follower and = whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing anyone know online manual anywhere? M --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9AEC9.330E3B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sorry too much blood in my caffine=20 system...
 
quick start guide http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-quickstart-engl= .pdf
manual http= ://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-engl.pdf
 
and I found them here:
http://www= .tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/tsr24-main.htm
 
 
J
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 = 10:26=20 AM
Subject: Re: new pedal in = town

http://www.eventide.com/~/media/Fi= les/Audio%20Support/PitchFactor/Everyone/PitchFactor_Manual_Eng.ashx<= /FONT>
 
J
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 = 4:42=20 AM
Subject: Re: new pedal in = town



On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn = <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk&g= t;=20 wrote:
Digitech=20 TSR-24S;

Im very interested in this old = device... Can=20 you give me a quick run down on how the features you mentioned = works, env=20 follower and whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing

anyone = know online=20 manual anywhere?

M

--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
<= A=20 = href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C9AEC9.330E3B40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 15:07:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AC243BE94; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238166437; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=zqf64Cc2LSvFZOOiqND9yRFPyDA=; b=FM869Zlnhl5XjYWjOnoBcj66xALzVKVqxUTlfBjU5mEMYnDil9T4i67Py8O5a+0f cQrXAEeFAk+4U3Hj1YlAl1ML06f2HLDQWcJrV4WeUAhzdZ5VpG3Utq2n0D5dNns/; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=D5dYxXJ7AAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=tSy4KMGkAAAA:8 a=gB28bEPOAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=L8-3oVRxAAAA:20 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=EzJUUNTIAAAA:8 a=2OcCopPXL7R5WTGkzWIA:9 a=Dq41VrU7tv6mGbzG3IQA:7 a=zn40Cg_-WTPr4lMPnVT-15AYulgA:4 a=6-x43y6uxGMA:10 a=vViZfcZP9qwA:10 a=f2NaAAVcle0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=47LqdlND2co1CTX0o7UA:9 a=Wq6kVhXX0wEl79XPscYA:7 a=uwz5w5Jt5uIqJBK65P7sahuaAKMA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=zMq8AnxmSYkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c9aeed$9a5ce070$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <003e01c9aee8$16292250$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:06:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9AECC.12F7C940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:07:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9AECC.12F7C940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now my email is crapping out...sorry for the repost if it is. Sorry too much blood in my caffine system... quick start guide = http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-quickstart-engl.pdf manual http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-engl.pdf and I found them here: http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/tsr24-main.htm J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:26 AM Subject: Re: new pedal in town = http://www.eventide.com/~/media/Files/Audio%20Support/PitchFactor/Everyon= e/PitchFactor_Manual_Eng.ashx J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:42 AM Subject: Re: new pedal in town On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn = wrote: Digitech TSR-24S; Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick run = down on how the features you mentioned works, env follower and = whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing anyone know online manual anywhere? M --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9AECC.12F7C940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Now my email is crapping out...sorry = for the repost=20 if it is.
 
Sorry too much blood in my caffine=20 system...
 
quick start guide http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-quickstart-engl= .pdf
manual http= ://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/man/TSR-24S-engl.pdf
 
and I found them here:
http://www= .tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/tsr24-main.htm
 
 
J
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 = 10:26=20 AM
Subject: Re: new pedal in = town

http://www.eventide.com/~/media/Fi= les/Audio%20Support/PitchFactor/Everyone/PitchFactor_Manual_Eng.ashx<= /FONT>
 
J
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 = 4:42=20 AM
Subject: Re: new pedal in = town



On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn = <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk&g= t;=20 wrote:
Digitech=20 TSR-24S;

Im very interested in this old = device... Can=20 you give me a quick run down on how the features you mentioned = works, env=20 follower and whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing

anyone = know online=20 manual anywhere?

M

--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
<= A=20 = href=3D"http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe">http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
ht= tp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9AECC.12F7C940-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 16:30:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2B243BE94; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:30:42 -0500 Subject: Genius comes in many forms Thread-Topic: Genius comes in many forms Thread-Index: Acmu+V8NG5YYx/FBQJuEKkdiP/Hs5w== Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FAEC067@barq.sailpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:30:50 +0000 (UTC) I was looking into the whole Youtube Mashup phenomenon and stumbled upon this guy. This isn't even close to looping but it's raining here in Austin and I defy anyone to watch any of these without smiling. What's that on the ground? Yes, it's a gauntlet. http://www.youtube.com/user/ParryGripp OMGLOLKTXBYE! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 16:38:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 888923BE93; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Oq44TQhLWnpdRu1mk4224KQH6rOWCJXyE7ciFcp2ofc=; b=wR8peIMO9QlJdxuq6pRggCt7gF0cwkU5Y0YNyo31jqTkTueSUAFH0wqUBGefTNEQAQ /C0eZHoZiuC+M4O6k34BiRlkTCP9DAbnvJNi2DgUvcvjnhD7giLB6Frk6fMuWwhjQylk 43wSAr0PhvbP3IqjN4tNFv6WIrPcHUWU/RKaU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=HfHbUR5F39IB6w7sxxqLdC/ym/Yx8IQAKBhs3rUyX/1PrrHk9LqxQTP/3AK9VpDSzF fLTOS5RP4sG04SQrDH4IyZetoMv9AVoylpy6LT5eYLKZSY9ePBhiZYoSE48WPeUlSjuF 0mPHUwf54rBXJgLkiKkpHriti6Sp+EdnDnypc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:30:23 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 10a3ead66700381f Message-ID: Subject: fake wind and real wind From: Os To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <39fUjB.A.XzE.zDQzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi, something a bit different today on the Darkroom podcast: http://www.darkroomtheband.net/podcast/spaceechofail.mp3 Source material from this gig: http://www.improvizone.com/gig.php?id=24 Firstly - we're joined by a trumpeter (Simon Taylor), who has a beautiful ambient mute/wah/echo thing going on. Secondly, I tried out my EWI live for the first time, using it in this piece to build up a big loop of layered cello, of all things. Enjoy! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 17:42:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 606A43BE8E; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:42:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=fyFfyz3tRyv0oELYC+qgl0luOgAb1ksiUoM72rEyGEw=; b=u29daxGWfeuJmGiUJLwNTAspM2dNHfDiDPkgaadjTDmvxhcUwf2gxANJ5akARFYAwd euP7ab2qOS1MfQk3kwjOjUUltAG95nQ/fXDGyx96RE4uCmYVZzUyaZfXglpCPcwuUyuO I1l0piP598JIljMrwAojBnXhDxpKjgfIvmuCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=LTxLroVkWX6c9sNVYKVuAuD64B4LE8LoVNah8eSEzHLA2UPG+GIb4ECLUyXBT/Ethk d/+0xoVrQWj4f8LJfbKZKAX7y4T+8uMwP+dy0vz006rYUHXClc2u2ovssPseiMVRqqMi NKkl4RukopBA55+YZM1m66l0yfRt8oKFMDE1c= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: billowhead@gmail.com Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:42:43 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fb46b7bddf1c3413 Message-ID: <37f071c00903271042g24947ac1u2140d694c7515526@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT: Cheap Sub woofer From: Kevin Cheli-Colando To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:42:45 +0000 (UTC) So I've been using a pair of smallish Yamaha powered monitors for a while instead of a guitar amp and I'm generally very pleased with the sound, but the bass has been somewhat lacking so I was thinking about adding a sub-woofer to spread the low end out a bit. Problem is, my current set up is rather compact so I don't want to add a huge cube to the mix if I don't have to. I'd also like to spend as little as necessary to get some decent bass. Anyone have any recommendations on where to start? Thanks, Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE 3/01/09 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 20:28:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03EC33BE87; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238185694; bh=cbt+COvurDm3iZ3ZAfwjdJ5NLY2KAW8WpwAT0qHEirw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=vwSa76u45+sOdawIHtiCIwkIn3hhRe0qmRVvrtBpWT0GI2bh0kWMHVvm56Cj694ZDtPqNB45bofcySFbaotCBZsAfFFUWgdEb6KB2FE3WBjsl9oFi4O/b78d3azTDsZBIeCjxY/evT1psbWh57eGbwxIcASicCZU4IlecwVhXLA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=1v71vvevu+ikoTsva04+fl7nZPJ824dJi/C929RZdC077Y5do7nRuep2CZccsmE0ysoq4c6emkwGn2htw23a3EQTGqh3f2nJ6vss2E7/zkqEUjGUahGfcPbF7oapCOkecUKaAaHkKUAsimyQ6IHo5OMjV63C4WiXGhr1zOSwE+c=; Message-ID: <263696.32063.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Xi_y5wAVM1mUZL3WtDmnXU4iyOxYTSK2W1rvH5y6Zl0Y3PC8Em9Za_SUTdsfkqqNqZXA2dciAFOVGDfAQdnap_Y6lSjOpYHzHWdApkJynj6yRpGH1JN4aW4SOcfnvrrB0EBiLnQO62NJfmf5qGKMQGibnl5Pjw.F_qb41B75z3_4_Qcwq0Aiu2z4OI_F7OZ30Ik- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:28:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3g2ta.A.BPF.fbTzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi kevin,=0Aare using a multi fx with the power monitor?=0Adont really know= if you are looking for something to enhance your guitar sound,but in case = you do use a multi FX check this ones out,they say they have plenty of bass= balls for guitars=0A=0Ahttp://www.atomicamps.com/products-112-18.html=0A=0A= cheers=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Kevi= n Cheli-Colando wrote:=0A=0A> From: Kevin Cheli-Colan= do =0A> Subject: OT: Cheap Sub woofer=0A> To: loopers-= delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:42 AM=0A> = So I've been using a pair of smallish=0A> Yamaha powered monitors for a=0A>= while instead of a guitar amp and I'm generally very=0A> pleased with the= =0A> sound, but the bass has been somewhat lacking so I was=0A> thinking ab= out=0A> adding a sub-woofer to spread the low end out a bit.=A0=0A> Problem= is, my=0A> current set up is rather compact so I don't want to add a=0A> h= uge cube to=0A> the mix if I don't have to.=A0 I'd also like to spend as=0A= > little as=0A> necessary to get some decent bass.=0A> =0A> Anyone have any= recommendations on where to start?=0A> =0A> Thanks,=0A> =0A> Kevin=0A> =0A= > -- =0A> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body=0A> and= to have a=0A> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause= =0A> of all trouble.=0A> =0A> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)=0A> =0A> Sound = and Vision:=A0 http://www.minds-eye.org NEW SITE=0A> 3/01/09=0A> =0A> =0A= =0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 27 23:09:11 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B8CB3BE8C; Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:20:56 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:09:11 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn > wrote: > > Digitech TSR-24S; > > > Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick run > down on how the features you mentioned works, env follower and > whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing > > anyone know online manual anywhere? > > M The manual is available from digitech; look in discuntinued products. It's a complex device. Two inputs, four outputs, an effects library, and everything routable just about any which way you want. This means: Start with an input, pick an effect, link them, pick the next, link, split into two paralles lines, pick effects and link for each line, split one line again (to have three parallel), pick and link, create a feedback with effects in it and link it to a mixer... Any effect can be reused as you wish; it's a matter of when you run short of processing power and memory. So, you can do mono in, mono out, mono in stereo out, stereo in stereo out, one mono in/out + one mono in / stereo out... Reverbs, echoes, single/multipole chrous, flangers, parametric EQ, multiband EQ, pitch transpose, harmonizing... The envelope follower means effect parameters can be controlled by dynamics in playing style, i.e. for ducking reverb, echo feedback buildup, chorous speed/depth... I mostly use this to add-in some 4-tap echo and harmonizing when sustaining notes/chords. The TSR-24S (dual DSP's) runs a bit hot, so needs free space around it. TSR-24 (single DSP) runs cooler. Programming may take time ;) -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 02:14:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2760E3BE8C; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6eN6vxsv5n1n1hiq9haXwMeAs9a+PDbpQMjjHfkHWxc=; b=w3niz+ARlb1lUE7v9lrcfw0gH1YddKVaafumV4UpZG9Vzx01hDRFiyHex+qEC8iJpn oPbGF0giwnpOLdpeQl2N3ybCffzynLriNUvlIx54elnaa2/wpk3Utl+Czq5bS4eE4nqA Vt8AtaBB+YTm3BFHx/k2gCexjxHB4dp+DhL4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=J2on1D4tMuxN4qbQoKB5HTGdo/DJo38X6ArCzCYLNfGk6Ky4K0V+HztYfz3kngDOzo gtNxe/xMM5hFhdha8unqYduKjG4E6RRVxfPMOmoRzgW6W4Uo+LfEfy3wi7ov8LRxwmVJ 8wu/ITsJllG2JXm+mAPdmmh4EWNcXVmNfxLb8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <263696.32063.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <263696.32063.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:14:06 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903271914w182aa0aeq3fc09e341c415c0f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2c0cc661ae40466246794 Resent-Message-ID: <9tDEI.A.iHC.vfYzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:14:08 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2c0cc661ae40466246794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone using The Fractal Audio Axe processor? -m On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi kevin, > are using a multi fx with the power monitor? > dont really know if you are looking for something to enhance your guitar > sound,but in case you do use a multi FX check this ones out,they say they > have plenty of bassballs for guitars > > http://www.atomicamps.com/products-112-18.html > > cheers > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > --000e0cd2c0cc661ae40466246794 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone using The Fractal Audio Axe processor?=A0 -m

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM, L.Angulo <= labaloops@yahoo.com> w= rote:

Hi kevin,
are using a multi fx with the power monitor?
dont really know if you are looking for something to enhance your guitar so= und,but in case you do use a multi FX check this ones out,they say they hav= e plenty of bassballs for guitars

http://www.atomicamps.com/products-112-18.html

cheers

www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--000e0cd2c0cc661ae40466246794-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 02:16:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C4F13BE8D; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0DC45C76DA904339A63FD14A0CEA50E6@ccs.local> From: "BC" To: References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Copyrighting services Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:16:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:16:09 +0000 (UTC) I was wondering if any of you have experience with any of those copyright services out there? I have 4 of my band's songs I would like to protect. If anyone has any tips in general, or any experience with a service that does all the work for you, I'd appreciate hearing about it. Thanks, Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 02:16:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D8753BE8D; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ssGdnH0f9pijQGjwV12Q7hpaDTVUwAxBwWBdoIRC0p8=; b=W04/Qc63r5rlprjlDRvs+XZLJAQikKJGalePK/UHs06SWiVNQaObaigBseEp08m1l4 L+D0ZXHobeYPUwaxRfbM1w5T3m0GDscT6xtxDsma2abv4JSvqjzvVIddttPcFgF0t7XN Atu5sZye+c3pVb1YInrGMbKKsJgSy3hNmj6co= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aKac9hVzLT4FHxWxRNW+o5gcn92DeavB39mlRx0vU/jMVkvsBp/dLKT8bDKNHntFvv o/bd0gu5TJGPGPxlQOPPa528GdT4ZdjImWc9bPhdL/pXP81j/O9xzSWn0xVamk+gyweS Bpm4PHox7bwchg/mO3CbAShCJYGhjPU6UKqvg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <263696.32063.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <263696.32063.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:16:28 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903271916o2c365347m9a3c7d0cc993d71a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd28e3ae1749e0466246faa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:16:30 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd28e3ae1749e0466246faa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone using the Fractal Audio guitar processor? -m On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi kevin, > are using a multi fx with the power monitor? > dont really know if you are looking for something to enhance your guitar > sound,but in case you do use a multi FX check this ones out,they say they > have plenty of bassballs for guitars > > http://www.atomicamps.com/products-112-18.html > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd28e3ae1749e0466246faa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone using the Fractal Audio guitar processor?=A0 -m

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM, L.Angulo &= lt;labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi kevin,
are using a multi fx with the power monitor?
dont really know if you are looking for something to enhance your guitar so= und,but in case you do use a multi FX check this ones out,they say they hav= e plenty of bassballs for guitars

http://www.atomicamps.com/products-112-18.html

--
Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.com
MBiffle@Fo= xRacingShox.com
"Running scared from all the usual distractions!&qu= ot;
--000e0cd28e3ae1749e0466246faa-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 03:58:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 779663BE87; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <8C5D8A13-6129-4EA5-A18A-E400473A4BE0@verizon.net> From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <3fa302e30903271914w182aa0aeq3fc09e341c415c0f@mail.gmail.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:58:26 -0500 References: <263696.32063.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3fa302e30903271914w182aa0aeq3fc09e341c415c0f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <9crhlB.A.5gF.oBazJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:58:32 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > Anyone using The Fractal Audio Axe processor? -m I have one, but I haven't used it much yet. I know a lot of people who own them (and actually use them! lol). Anything in particular you want to know? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 05:05:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 338583BE89; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:05:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6RE5n+o6W8/A0nJ4+nXJsflW8gIcozExFFKKSWvEdh0=; b=RyWI7iAUgqYfgLOC3r9YQchwcIZT+9FhMg1JuT3cxsTLpa4FlYOq+1MHXuGOQ9nLk0 gFWdZ3jxLMgoPKR32jdQXgvBLJRGK9+VjtGbgZlZrRDCydrEJmh4InJT5o3Dm3oQ+vSr SK5t1Z6fI9Gd2a0bS0H1Pjo3QEZLtbeRCg0UA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=cInD97K7Zgdw6y/qiiHRCQktOPD6m1kbZIUI9znn9r//cq7Zlp/u5LDgeFLtB1gLnW SrJINrwyiNNv7qLAJ6kTblpOm8ikeOTk4cNOIaJYCY/ZX1n9/UDMXQofECn9ykZE3kne rFO4tUS/xJCFeDFQYgERq5uebjUYS+sa2o5+0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903270207s6fd77490w9eaaee6b4bdadff2@mail.gmail.com> References: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270139r73096e09u7e0696f125eaaffa@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903270140w4f5f68dbv720a73852993842c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270155y10740bfcib7939dcde0d4652c@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903270207s6fd77490w9eaaee6b4bdadff2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:05:54 -0500 Message-ID: <207d11220903272205u28aadd49jf1aebc5b40a9df3a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: Timothy Miller To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e643486aceda66046626cdab Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:05:55 +0000 (UTC) --0016e643486aceda66046626cdab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I already e-mailed Mark for one on one help, but basically this is how I'm doing it: The midi cable is plugged in correctly from MIDI OUT on FCB1010 to MIDI IN on EDP. I have followed the instructions as best as I could. I'll put 2 on the FCB and then 38 on EDP. I press the down button for 2.5 seconds to save it. Nothing happens. On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:07 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Aha.. the Source Offset.. you confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per... > > But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note number adds up > to the one you have chosen in Source Offset on your EDP > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI Note numbers >> sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to move the midi >> not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note range if >> you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the same MIDI >> channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you don't know >> about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you send to the >> EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them too. >> "Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP manual, rather what it >> does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or something in EDP-ish...? >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> >> >> 2009/3/27 mark francombe : >> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen >> wrote: >> >> >> >> note off-set >> > >> > Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use >> NOTES, >> > but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...? >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > --0016e643486aceda66046626cdab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I already e-mailed Mark for one on one help, but basically this is ho= w I'm doing it:

The midi cable is plugged in correct= ly from MIDI OUT on FCB1010 to MIDI IN on EDP. I have followed the instruct= ions as best as I could. I'll put 2 on the FCB and then 38 on EDP. I pr= ess the down button for 2.5 seconds to save it. Nothing happens.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:07 AM, mark f= rancombe <ma= rk@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Aha.. the Source Offset.. you confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per...
But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note number ad= ds up to the one you have chosen in Source Offset on your EDP


On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI Note numbers
sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to move the midi
not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note range if
you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the same MIDI
channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you don't know
about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you send to the
EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them too.
"Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP manual, rather what= it
does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or something in EDP-ish..= .?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



2009/3/27 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen <<= a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
>>
>> note off-set
>
> Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use NO= TES,
> but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...?




<= div>
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://w= ww.myspace.com/markfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/sh= op/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch

--0016e643486aceda66046626cdab-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 05:34:05 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A9D33BE87; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JMbuPkOZK7prqwTMZa892ixtYu16+qSyDcmIps3Sw6M=; b=OZeIBYMw2L+eyG6h/XMhZeYa/PukUro0/mmE8HJr03aaaiTt4adlqMOhuw2Ls0JrBB qQFfVja+xZEU8vAz2nSnY628ois1LMMDuiWNjXq8e1LL5B7GhWh6gi+puHIW5Ty2BfEo 76zMV70Ozzdy/CaDsGp7bk7ViQ1F8smsV0fFg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=X9UkZItX6LKoKPwIfs7NTxybvfvqKwx5hncUEOi1umL13T/XBimTpW9lrQbQh6N6ty D5Zpt8ax4cVKnhsWAjlAipAd1eRlVPHOz0ypNLnRYUMuBFcwCe6cxq6DEIt9Vig+bKdG dTPVLmQZcGpE3Egb/6+RK8NwKXBYJSXe97OKo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <207d11220903272205u28aadd49jf1aebc5b40a9df3a@mail.gmail.com> References: <207d11220903262220p330358dfua4514475c3e947ea@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270139r73096e09u7e0696f125eaaffa@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903270140w4f5f68dbv720a73852993842c@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0903270155y10740bfcib7939dcde0d4652c@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0903270207s6fd77490w9eaaee6b4bdadff2@mail.gmail.com> <207d11220903272205u28aadd49jf1aebc5b40a9df3a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:34:03 -0700 Message-ID: <3c3c57a30903272234t3491a214hda4c3cc24b13298b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: Jack Schultz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64b076a8169250466273278 Resent-Message-ID: <8cAlD.A.3u.NbbzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 05:34:05 +0000 (UTC) --0016e64b076a8169250466273278 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Timothy, I think of it this way if this is still giving you trouble. To execute commands from the FCB to the EDP I add the number from the MIDI Sync Indicators list to the Source# the EDP is set to. I leave mine at the default of 36, so to record I leave source#=36 on the EDP, add the offset (+2 for record) and then program the FCB to send midi note 38. (Source# + Offset for virtual record button). Jack Schultz On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Timothy Miller wrote: > Well, I already e-mailed Mark for one on one help, but basically this is > how I'm doing it: > The midi cable is plugged in correctly from MIDI OUT on FCB1010 to MIDI IN > on EDP. I have followed the instructions as best as I could. I'll put 2 on > the FCB and then 38 on EDP. I press the down button for 2.5 seconds to save > it. Nothing happens. > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:07 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> Aha.. the Source Offset.. you confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per... >> >> But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note number adds up >> to the one you have chosen in Source Offset on your EDP >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI Note numbers >>> sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to move the midi >>> not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note range if >>> you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the same MIDI >>> channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you don't know >>> about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you send to the >>> EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them too. >>> "Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP manual, rather what it >>> does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or something in EDP-ish...? >>> >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se >>> www.perboysen.com >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/3/27 mark francombe : >>> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> note off-set >>> > >>> > Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use >>> NOTES, >>> > but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...? >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch >> > > --0016e64b076a8169250466273278 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Timothy,

I think of it this way if this is still giving you troub= le. To execute commands from the FCB to the EDP I add the number from the M= IDI Sync Indicators list to the Source# the EDP is set to.=A0 I leave mine = at the default of 36, so to record I leave source#=3D36 on the EDP, add the= offset (+2 for record) and then program the FCB to send midi note 38.=A0 (= Source# + Offset for virtual record button).



Jack Schultz


On Fri, Mar = 27, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Timothy Miller <timmylmiller@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 2= 04, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well, I already e-mailed Mark for one on one help, but basically this is ho= w I'm doing it:

The midi cable is plugged in correct= ly from MIDI OUT on FCB1010 to MIDI IN on EDP. I have followed the instruct= ions as best as I could. I'll put 2 on the FCB and then 38 on EDP. I pr= ess the down button for 2.5 seconds to save it. Nothing happens.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 4:07 AM, mark f= rancombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Aha.. the Source Offset.. you confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per...
But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note number ad= ds up to the one you have chosen in Source Offset on your EDP


On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI Note numbers
sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to move the midi
not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note range if
you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the same MIDI
channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you don't know
about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you send to the
EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them too.
"Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP manual, rather what= it
does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or something in EDP-ish..= .?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com



2009/3/27 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>:
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen <<= a href=3D"mailto:perboysen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">perboysen@gmail.com= > wrote:
>>
>> note off-set
>
> Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that he has to use NO= TES,
> but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...?




<= div>


--0016e64b076a8169250466273278-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 07:24:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8313BE84; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238225047; bh=Hxp7AFLv43fwSRRUq7ngwm2Zc3AHJ3Qs438kMeQuTO4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=foGWEyjeG9FMQwiZEenKjEh0kTEfJ3tLzMYmuFhLBgTbokwcoNwpkGvjs84k/1iiznqbGc5bEBMpfcxZdkchC8sQ8WCLALhr1rB6O/mwUIM/uvpcgV09XfNCgW1Kg5Qwsq9bm0F0id4mx1URkXlf3R8irMWn+SfMIW01hBay+04= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MpjCo/XMO7ZJP7XbVA6XBFtIQKA1J/jdoCirkRmbXIEO8v4sLd2JEd7IbkFn57BqJexvfKqj6dk+AlYG8Ml4lrMLBxWYyYHjMvGpE7ZUUKwZAbhUiJe4XxA/rT5PsXAy3rl7RIlJQ6q/lWu+KI7dzA2/DpZWBU9eeASoXG0pDgM=; Message-ID: <283992.54291.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: co2gmTUVM1nGwCu49jg2WO0qOQgtSFCbo7SDsYO2YUjElZz6_Zn0nxencjsrZ5GhuWw9z9kDp_c9z.WhnJ3YUcGRlS3DMAEalI_V9IgK8VYRXquoO1n4BL1VRI5ZP8QuPiP2GD8sY.87xFgqOEUa6q88_23UVELAQ95oQwnn0s9FaODNSsdmCCLI6aSFXwnZAqsxQ7cesmXqSQRSPrGA0qq94s3Hh0jfHc14Cq4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:24:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <2rx39C.A.QkD.YCdzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:24:08 +0000 (UTC) wow u have it and dont use it????=0Awanna give it me?;-)=0Aive been looking= at it seems like a very nifty box the eefects sound really good,and it has= a nice basic looper,but price tag hurts i settled with the GT10!=0Awww.mys= pace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Fri, 3/27/09, Jeff Shirkey wrote:=0A=0A> From: Jeff Shirkey =0A> Su= bject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0A> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 8:58 PM=0A> =0A> On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:1= 4 PM, Miko Biffle wrote:=0A> =0A> > Anyone using The Fractal Audio Axe proc= essor?=A0=0A> -m=0A> =0A> I have one, but I haven't used it much yet. I kno= w a lot of=0A> people who own them (and actually use them! lol). Anything= =0A> in particular you want to know?=0A> =0A> Jeff=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 07:26:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69EC43BE8C; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:26:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238225200; bh=2vugzYeRnSMg2QV46TJbeeBm5iuoXyFD9wStWG0nqLw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jWfoIemXq/d/JTHihFp8fyBaextOxRwxDEaUhEVSwstrLBBWNGZ6TrgGQ9Y9d7k7dO8qXlhScegFu/W1mT86y65c4fXE98f9htttmsDbBmN9i5UR1t+rA7sfcKoloUBt20ILyk3Yz79V8Xel7t17hgmNQElHzW0TwwXvuadZBiE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ithdEMSrBfHFnwoYFAy5eP9c93fm+ExGkCQNFKKyDJFeD0q4hT6S8XARWgZhp1hj8sxMZsBJY1KDOdH+v9ACVsAsmxuYay22PTWI42Em88MhKp0XZrMsHNDFnPaRQaII4dxJyPZNpme412pe5rTPGraRx12YqGgj6yuBR88oHzk=; Message-ID: <298457.42207.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aCZ3vHsVM1kOIYZ3QXy_Ps9BuFTsQXdmI.eeatBds0UgxxatKZaSCG5QC_ffaLRNo2fk7MDW9RuKwDKtFQcZQ.Q.k9yuCq5QEf88w7Y_jXoWbbzer1_8FyEInpUNQ8OixGbXXspFXZlQWb3lSqg4snEkSzRnKz7iq.5w9TSXqQkuVOuHJ3xvUif75ptac7UW2e0- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:26:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Copyrighting services To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:26:41 +0000 (UTC) I am with the GEMA here in Germany, you pay a membership fee fill out the forms with the titles of your songs and send it out,they are now listed in ther website data base.Are u in the states? cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 3/27/09, BC wrote: > From: BC > Subject: Copyrighting services > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 7:16 PM > I was wondering if any of you have > experience with any of those copyright services out there? > > I have 4 of my band's songs I would like to protect. > > If anyone has any tips in general, or any experience with a > service that does all the work for you, I'd appreciate > hearing about it. > > Thanks, > Brian > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 07:28:42 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 112193BE8D; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238225320; bh=FGZQsHPBmSo/0eqGbsHyIrplDdexYrhDHRT9XOGO0iA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6gcweLtkZDG8J+SwirIf1cr0maA9IxkJ/EE89zpFsGUbvBGdwkuPYUc2h4mof5zEFlMno8waoH0R+3tWrvalvgdZ0YEN8CgQ9vvjXOP3ik1Tx2zSDb0ShST2TLlHQe0CXdkzZAamdkaBfp+zDQq72g+XJb+fWDgr/NOOw1qR/p0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QfDGsz6vLnS4WPbd4Hvv43DOdIDw/9zXpBbIHUh0wqmfwwbliE+NtCSbhGfczre0S7WMBd6kbqyppzodSTvRf9o1czNUS7E5929+WW/FMHJaGI28BjXweeyOBaoypOnj0wKOCLEH4m8Qzj2bQp0LGPCQUFiDC3fyHzwgBFIVqQw=; Message-ID: <699077.99773.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OZUJsP4VM1lLpuTCParfy7wmxK14JVm.UvEb9Ei.26XBnVmWFMJ8.5VsvTS4SdeAWI_1agEyELPbZ7.TgLWbnISf49ZylReFK60nyobJSTvg8XtBvYJNOKMR7pnJGup6s6c8VOscYQJNl5J0QDNNhCSjKuDbb2JbKfD05L.dgAJ5PCNZ7ii1ki2b7aJ83.0H3OM- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:28:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:28:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi Mark, I believe you use 2 of them correct? are u controlling both with the FCB1010? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 3/27/09, mark francombe wrote: > From: mark francombe > Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:07 AM > Aha.. the Source Offset.. you > confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per... > > But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note > number adds up to the one you have chosen in Source Offset > on your EDP > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen > wrote: > > > There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI > Note numbers > > sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to > move the midi > > not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note > range if > > you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the > same MIDI > > channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you > don't know > > about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you > send to the > > EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them > too. > > "Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP > manual, rather what it > > does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or > something in EDP-ish...? > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > > > > 2009/3/27 mark francombe : > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 > at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen > wrote: > > >> > > >> note off-set > > > > > > Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that > he has to use NOTES, > > > but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...? > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > > > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 07:31:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E4D83BE8B; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238225513; bh=mPeUYstuUFKw2Fr8K8YSv4Czp32EF0ZmWrcDK2W8m8M=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AxcCBOwbm8sHGCZPnKnrjQ8nPut5kyDqcoWZL58ldsq0cF9gZf4Av/EApMZDvS+3TcHlUr/vpUy9DRCx4VZ2Gu/51HCuQEY9bWMLf1zE0WTq8glXHQnou2WJ2AMXEzNyJBTeHOS71nnWqZAkIyoyCWeZioGM8ksd3lhZjM/s5SA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QvCj5xt2nWvORZKdGX+yxCij2pFWVyAzrbEqjhw0wge8Gq+JNyHwHujQfFfeopDVmJ0Ddw+RlAsSH3VQZHMvNALzwNp4Dd1srlUdPk+3MQs5j7f8Su0BUYzAOXgg/YLvi8yqr7f3mGKNTjLOLrqXUrqDOLzIjVpKOoIqFgEHm6M=; Message-ID: <488670.66097.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OdhETroVM1lES9ErrcbA.XiMmA4xaCsKeIMIrYCxLNgUT0sGMaLZ1A5PRlxtWyqZQ6Qrk7j7y4kWQl8h79tOjOQdqdoM1WSms9kg72nG0o8DmJAGHkQVOPCho8r8FlEBGir0GXRnb155ffIg6eBxzDarrqtClaXVKs5H6TtHUMzRU9lOsx3hzu4uJaF6SZLileU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:31:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Timothy,=0Adid u get it to work? if not contact me offline i c an try to he= lp you=0Acheers=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A> Ok, so I've gone to this site (=A0http:= //synchnonsynch.blogspot.com/2006/08/fcb1010-instructions.html=0A> ) and ha= ve followed all the steps and am still getting=0A> nothing. Does anyone kno= w of a video that gives a step by=0A> step instruction on how to get the fc= b1010 to work with the=0A> edp? I have a midi cable going to/from fcb1010 a= nd edp, and=0A> I have a regular cable going from both, as well. Any help= =0A> would be greatly appreciated.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -- =0A> www.markfranc= ombe.com=0A> http://vimeo.com/user825094=0A> http://uk.youtube.com/user/mar= kfrancombe=0A> =0A> =0A> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe=0A> http://ww= w.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A= =0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 07:42:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98E693BE94; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238226163; bh=y0YJ9f5q9V30cEhPmSbBTHIeZmqVSLT+zhgspHJM51A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ISk+YUPoiRc5fqGFXasIRDhaod6dzrfAeDAFs6tG3zRxh0xn9JeUMF/HA/vrmM2MxvaQak8NGP6+fG24XS2etpxgWjocy5gR5z9+CL/bP+5pwIOVimB1eJsHnGulThZepJQQGxJzNbY6BlujsOuKJGxGFk71ZB+ZsgWMMJEV9i0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D5NwKdCUyRkCWs3B/BUI2sdZLWuLuh5VrlukJZyE1fqtwvvhZYi3xWrWA4tKlRgNYnYPmGsLkdCnDCSi/G+ePhzpepRYFQL9RHbv1PO+DcNxhdZFdTpF6o3hAjLdUyadFkGr5u3CIE1sKG3o8hKfucPq0fqYEtovI2gJ49W2HsY=; Message-ID: <681573.77686.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 8jJV24MVM1n5paD8pcyzrWixbCzwF1Qu8s81CKZ0h5SwwnoDzpJsh9N7ZakSZY_H8e1uQLgt71CWwQRc_OMmKZT0Iykh_148SvO3lxd7_IwixyIzgMPNteLp_ro7JuIDhyzLNoL0lCX8ih9ZBEWf7rkeENSAMxi0Vwa6_SRu53nlob8lxOIOHev5U0XfoXT8xQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:42:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: Teresa Andersson/other YouTubers worth viewing... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:42:44 +0000 (UTC) very nice!i was a rush fan as well guess hes using a jamman yeah?=0Anice el= ectric guitar as well what is that?=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A= =0A=0A--- On Thu, 3/26/09, ejyuhas wrote:=0A=0A> F= rom: ejyuhas =0A> Subject: RE: Teresa Andersson/oth= er YouTubers worth viewing...=0A> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com= =0A> Date: Thursday, March 26, 2009, 7:28 PM=0A> =0A> > I thought this was = quite well done.=A0 Wonder what=0A> she's using for=A0 =0A> > loopers.=0A> = =0A> Definitely brilliant! I thought I saw a DL4 in her pedal=0A> chain?=0A= > =0A> =0A> Here is another fine use of looping on YouTube:=0A> =0A> http:/= /www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DW4vd9OVLO7Q=0A> =0A> =0A> All ye proggies like m= yself will enjoy this!!!=0A> =0A> Peace.=0A> =0A> Ed in NJ=0A> http://www.m= yspace.com/edward_yuhas=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 07:56:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9275B3BE94; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:56:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238227004; bh=oZ6Z0/vKY0X+s1A1x7n+MBTUdRdSoipEpsIvKbdj69I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wqhKa1Zc7Wk6lrXxEAvudj3sFyYppKgTHiiZCgraPAyTKl8AX84w9rCkZl13sqmAmIQdOKXSgq82q0SSs3lat6mMAC9x+mgbOPtnxQuJb+qqRBrg53wUgHPfrnw4iJQw4ZTU0hMYljl+gFDj53aGo0rq+2ahsQQAuHaF9yH1Gds= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=VTVjx0DsxjdUwAejT8hod1OOuUTCXo5DtAlAvywcCafhjae4lqZS/9z967G9a1fkqfFIl0JlyLGDsn4TILFvfJta1bOE6Qe8p5r7aoZduf0zPsdVAKl+jchuvw9I3Sj+UE0mRoK1hJ2DpkHrzSgu88JAzafwAv2NzGZfeLl8UNk=; Message-ID: <704962.19307.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: A1xI20gVM1lYnliPak9McDAbZfAjQt26j88idsLh.p2FayDkiuGPH4k3NZBSCHjkbIaJneKnyZkdE2Z8ZpQw6p2hz1NeeUuUFVpj8tbt2sqgX7ibsPdWFZ3D9mU6JWiOwmMAJILAWSCl0NcXVtdd8ZSs22cy6y29VvY9tIqEeaCEGzWr4yQbIC0Wlqbmc8aU3gQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:56:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:56:45 +0000 (UTC) yes and that reafirms womens ability to multitask;-)=0Aand man she can sing= !=0Ai d like to see that pedalbard more closely she has a lof of suff=0Abri= lliant=0ALuis=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Mon, 3/23/09, = Tony K wrote:=0A=0A> From: Tony K = =0A> Subject: Teresa Andersson=0A> To: "loopers-delight" =0A> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:05 PM=0A> I though= t this was quite well=0A> done.=A0 Wonder what she's using for loopers.=0A>= =0A> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvMXqn42AykM=0A> =0A> -- =0A> -=3D=3D= -=3D-=3D-=0A> Tony=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 09:08:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1ED33BE8C; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:08:58 UTC Message-id: <49CDDB17.1030609@soundscapes.us> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 04:08:55 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:08:58 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 28 at 6:00 am (EDT/GMT-4:00/ITZ-5:00), less than two hours from now. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 10:04:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 143333BE88; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 169969195/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.246/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.246 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuEBALmSzUlPTrL2/2dsb2JhbAAIzjKDdwaHOQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,437,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="169969195" Message-ID: <49CDF872.7060606@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:14:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:04:42 +0000 (UTC) van Sinn wrote: > mark francombe wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn > > wrote: >> >> Digitech TSR-24S; >> > > The manual is available from digitech; look in discuntinued products. > > It's a complex device. Two inputs, four outputs, an effects library, > and everything routable just about any which way you want. ah, sounds interesting, hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of details > > This means: Start with an input, pick an effect, link them, pick the > next, link, split into two paralles lines, pick effects and link for > each line, split one line again (to have three parallel), pick and link, > create a feedback with effects in it and link it to a mixer... > Any effect can be reused as you wish; it's a matter of when you run > short of processing power and memory. interesting, that sounds like "freely editable"... ..............is it? > > So, you can do mono in, mono out, mono in stereo out, stereo in stereo > out, one mono in/out + one mono in / stereo out... will it do 2 mono in to the same stereo o/p? > > Reverbs, echoes, single/multipole chrous, flangers, parametric EQ, > multiband EQ, pitch transpose, harmonizing... lowpass/bandpass? does it have a panner (not an autopanner) outputs on XLR? > > The envelope follower means effect parameters can be controlled by so I guess that's assignable to any parameter. > dynamics in playing style, i.e. for ducking reverb, echo feedback > buildup, chorous speed/depth... I mostly use this to add-in some > 4-tap echo and harmonizing when sustaining notes/chords. > > The TSR-24S (dual DSP's) runs a bit hot, so needs free space around it. > TSR-24 (single DSP) runs cooler. > > Programming may take time ;) that's ok :-) andy > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 10:55:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD5853BE87; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nqeF4XiiGX7nbHuXY7/xcFDBUX0V8oFUWFVEIcX6vN0=; b=vaSzoDCWEGPm9x8zSrEnYKq6bViBe3kEoHk2HP7YyiiN0gn4wikgHf51JsV9GMYuMQ eaPO94J1o8kKkMGFmk20DIwdUmcpWnQb6VW1ZRGv3mY5LMLzL2zAjXyq95beSyu1WLxH FJ6YrFkG2xo4LYA1As2nBTkM9uih3/uFLRzBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=o6MZm0iywEQjwNMxYO/qwluxQBSDsT7+wHnoEDCsAi+FRMYzba1BmMASUlxOV2iNfd mxKpnJimiG63a0Pn2GsaPrbBurToa6lQUYNh9k2Jk3FAE0zuP1+XAZV5cf2gQZ1OeeNh Jcv/GOZWV3m9J05UVF6NXxDfdsUR3NHpnb/lY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <704962.19307.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <704962.19307.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:55:13 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903280355r47cb1282g1f3a824be24cfde9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:55:13 +0000 (UTC) >> From: Tony K >> Subject: Teresa Andersson >> To: "loopers-delight" >> Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:05 PM >> I thought this was quite well >> done.=A0 Wonder what she's using for loopers. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvMXqn42AykM Two RC-50s. You can see them better here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn2eD4GcLohE&feature=3Drelated Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 11:26:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B0DE3BE87; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CE0C35.2060808@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:38:29 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <49CDF872.7060606@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49CDF872.7060606@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:26:31 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > > > van Sinn wrote: > >> mark francombe wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn >> > wrote: >>> >>> Digitech TSR-24S; >>> > >> >> The manual is available from digitech; look in discuntinued products. >> >> It's a complex device. Two inputs, four outputs, an effects library, >> and everything routable just about any which way you want. > > > ah, sounds interesting, hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of details > >> >> This means: Start with an input, pick an effect, link them, pick the >> next, link, split into two paralles lines, pick effects and link for >> each line, split one line again (to have three parallel), pick and >> link, create a feedback with effects in it and link it to a mixer... >> Any effect can be reused as you wish; it's a matter of when you run >> short of processing power and memory. > > > interesting, that sounds like "freely editable"... > ..............is it? Yes >> So, you can do mono in, mono out, mono in stereo out, stereo in stereo >> out, one mono in/out + one mono in / stereo out... > > > will it do 2 mono in to the same stereo o/p? Yes. Because any input, output, effect and mixers are fully routable, you can do this. >> Reverbs, echoes, single/multipole chrous, flangers, parametric EQ, >> multiband EQ, pitch transpose, harmonizing... > > > lowpass/bandpass? Yes > does it have a panner (not an autopanner) I believe so, not 100% sure though > outputs on XLR? No, TSR only >> The envelope follower means effect parameters can be controlled by > > > so I guess that's assignable to any parameter. Yes, and IIRC, it can be linked to control more parameters at a time. Also, the fully programmable noise gate can be used to ramp-up effects. I forgot to mention the TSR-24S (dual DSP) has ring-out and ramp-up, meaning what's already in memory will ring out when canging presets, and the new preset can be programmed to gradually ramp-up, even with a pre-delay. Allows for interesting smooth transitions. This model also has a (simple) 4 sec looper ;) It's also possible to combine effects into your own named modules, which can then be linked into presets, just like the individual effects. However, once such a module is used, it's locked and cannot be edited. Ohh, and it'll do some MIDI event filtering too! haven't tried though.. Maybe you see why Digitech discontinued the model? It was simply too complex for most users, at a time when prog. racks became a no-no :D I often wish I could keep it simple. I mostly use the harmonizing, 4-tap echo and a bit of reverb. Still, I have some fun ideas in my head, and really have a hard time seeing any replacements for this baby, except for the way more expensive Eventides Ultra's. An example I'm fiddling with: I have one mono-in stereo-out channel in my ADA MP-2 guitar processor's S/R loop. So, I might use another mono in/out channel to build a separate clean channel to stack on top of the ADA for a more complex tone. And I'd still have one free mono-out, which I could use to tap into the two chains to add a completely independent.. something.. ;) They can often be had at a good price on evilbay. Just notice that single-DSP models cannot any longer be updated to dual. Digitech stopped that year ago, and Dieter from Germany, who reverse engineered those modules cannot get the DSP's anymore. I was the first to get the PPC-210 for the TSR-24 and proofread the manual/instructions. It's still possible to update the software to the latest version to have faster preset swiching and improved whammy operation. http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/tsr24-main.htm has it all - except that the PPC module is out of production. He's a busy man.. also see http://www.chronotronix.com >> dynamics in playing style, i.e. for ducking reverb, echo feedback >> buildup, chorous speed/depth... I mostly use this to add-in some >> 4-tap echo and harmonizing when sustaining notes/chords. >> >> The TSR-24S (dual DSP's) runs a bit hot, so needs free space around it. >> TSR-24 (single DSP) runs cooler. >> >> Programming may take time ;) > > > that's ok :-) > > > andy -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 13:11:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE9EF3BE87; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 170038273/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.178.246/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.178.246 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlUBADy/zUlPTrL2/2dsb2JhbAAIzWyDegaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,437,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="170038273" Message-ID: <49CE2423.3070401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:20:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <49CDF872.7060606@tiscali.co.uk> <49CE0C35.2060808@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <49CE0C35.2060808@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8BBei.A.UmE.qHizJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:11:06 +0000 (UTC) van Sinn wrote: > andy butler wrote: >> >> >> van Sinn wrote: >>>> Digitech TSR-24S; >>>> >> >>> >>> The manual is available from digitech; look in discuntinued products. indeed. this is looking very interesting >>> >>> It's a complex device. Two inputs, four outputs, an effects library, >>> and everything routable just about any which way you want. >> > >> does it have a panner (not an autopanner) > > I believe so, not 100% sure though yep, it has Mixers. Looks like it's possible to connect any fx input to any fx output. > >> outputs on XLR? > > No, TSR only balanced? (I'm guessing it's compensated earth) > >>> The envelope follower means effect parameters can be controlled by >> >> >> so I guess that's assignable to any parameter. > > Yes, and IIRC, it can be linked to control more parameters at a time. > Also, the fully programmable noise gate can be used to ramp-up effects. > > I forgot to mention the TSR-24S (dual DSP) has ring-out and ramp-up, > meaning what's already in memory will ring out when canging presets, and > the new preset can be programmed to gradually ramp-up, even with a > pre-delay. Allows for interesting smooth transitions. > This model also has a (simple) 4 sec looper ;) that's the Sampler, right. Presumably the loop length has to be pre-defined. > They can often be had at a good price on evilbay. Just notice that > single-DSP models cannot any longer be updated to dual. Digitech > stopped that year ago, and Dieter from Germany, who reverse engineered > those modules cannot get the DSP's anymore. > I was the first to get the PPC-210 for the TSR-24 and proofread the > manual/instructions. Right, but from what I read it looks like the PPC-210 isn't standard for the TSR-24S > > It's still possible to update the software to the latest version to have > faster preset swiching and improved whammy operation. > http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/tsr24/tsr24-main.htm has it all - > except that the PPC module is out of production. Cheers, thanx for that. I think I'd need the PPC for that ringout/ramp up feature. > He's a busy man.. also see http://www.chronotronix.com valve clocks?? many thanks andy ps this looks like a duel to the death with Mark on ebay :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 15:31:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49D853BE8B; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <0DC45C76DA904339A63FD14A0CEA50E6@ccs.local> References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <0DC45C76DA904339A63FD14A0CEA50E6@ccs.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <62516bc9b2715718d6493ac8330704ec@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Copyrighting services Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:31:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:31:32 +0000 (UTC) I've been an ASCAP member for 8 years if that's what you mean. On Mar 27, 2009, at 7:16 PM, BC wrote: > I was wondering if any of you have experience with any of those > copyright services out there? > > I have 4 of my band's songs I would like to protect. > > If anyone has any tips in general, or any experience with a service > that does all the work for you, I'd appreciate hearing about it. > > Thanks, > Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 15:55:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D09473BE88; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:55:17 EDT Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c61.448aedc9.36ffa265_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:55:21 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c61.448aedc9.36ffa265_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/28/09 3:56:52 AM, labaloops@yahoo.com writes: > yes and that reafirms womens ability to multitask;-) > number1.....i can dance better than her!.....number2.....if she reached into her fridge and made a sammy during her song it would have been much better.....wow.....her sense of enjoying herself was infectuious.....really nice!.....:)m "EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? 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In a message dated 3/28/09 3:56:52 AM, labaloops@yahoo.com writes:


yes and that reafirms= womens ability to multitask;-)


number1.....i can dance better than her!.....number2.....if she reached i= nto her fridge and made a sammy during her song it would have been much bett= er.....wow.....her sense of enjoying herself was infectuious.....really nice= !.....:)m



"EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG".....firesign theater

new groovy tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com





**************
Feeling the pinch at the grocery sto= re? Make meals for Under $10. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=3Deml= cntusfood00000002) --part1_c61.448aedc9.36ffa265_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 16:01:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB9403BE8D; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: From: Jeff Shirkey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-reply-to: <283992.54291.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:01:11 -0500 References: <283992.54291.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:01:31 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 28, 2009, at 2:24 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > wow u have it and dont use it???? > wanna give it me?;-) I know. I'm ridiculous. I've been so enamored by my amps of late (imo nothing beats guitar--> amp) , I just haven't used it in many months. There's a steep learning curve--but I'll get there. I got it for recording. Hopefully in another month or so I'll have time to dedicate to it. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 16:05:25 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B34513BE8F; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:05:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <699077.99773.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <699077.99773.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:05:09 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903280905y727843dfr10bb4160a0d60cd9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB1010 From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016368e2b1d5771240466300437 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:05:25 +0000 (UTC) --0016368e2b1d5771240466300437 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM, L.Angulo wrote: > > Hi Mark, > I believe you use 2 of them correct? are u controlling both with the > FCB1010? Not as yet Luis.. no.. well not using two sets of FCB banks and seperating the offset.. no... I Use the fcb on one edp and the edp pedal with the second edp. BUT for a laugh, ive used the FCB on BOTH pedals, that way I record onto both, overdub on both BUT I can screw up those midi sent commands from the FCB and use the EDP pedal to stop overdyb or insert on just ONE pedal.... for example. start a multiply on both pedals, stop the mult using the EDP pedal, that stops just ONE edp, then the stop the original multiply on the first edp... that puts the second one INTO multiply, and you are in "Where AM I Hell???! Which I think is terribly fun! Mark > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Fri, 3/27/09, mark francombe wrote: > > > From: mark francombe > > Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO > FCB1010 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:07 AM > > Aha.. the Source Offset.. you > > confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per... > > > > But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note > > number adds up to the one you have chosen in Source Offset > > on your EDP > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen > > wrote: > > > > > > There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI > > Note numbers > > > > sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to > > move the midi > > > > not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note > > range if > > > > you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the > > same MIDI > > > > channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you > > don't know > > > > about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you > > send to the > > > > EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them > > too. > > > > "Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP > > manual, rather what it > > > > does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or > > something in EDP-ish...? > > > > > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > > > > > Per Boysen > > > > www.boysen.se > > > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/3/27 mark francombe : > > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 > > at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> note off-set > > > > > > > > > > Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that > > he has to use NOTES, > > > > > but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.markfrancombe.com > > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016368e2b1d5771240466300437 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:28 AM, L.Angul= o <labaloops@ya= hoo.com> wrote:

Hi Mark,
I believe you use 2 of them correct? are u controlling both with the FCB101= 0?


Not as yet Luis.. no.. well not using two sets = of FCB banks and seperating the offset.. no... I Use the fcb on one edp and= the edp pedal with the second edp. BUT for a laugh, ive used the FCB on BO= TH pedals, that way I record onto both, overdub on both BUT I can screw up = those midi sent commands from the FCB and use the=A0 EDP pedal to stop over= dyb or insert on just ONE pedal.... for example. start a multiply on both p= edals, stop the mult using the EDP pedal, that stops just ONE edp, then the= stop the original multiply on the first edp... that puts the second one IN= TO multiply, and you are in "Where AM I=A0 Hell???! Which I think is t= erribly fun!

Mark





www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Fri, 3/27/09, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

> From: mark francombe <mar= k@markfrancombe.com>
> Subject: Re: Confused when trying to ASSIGN BASIC EDP FUNCTIONS TO FCB= 1010
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 2:07 AM
> Aha.. the Source Offset.. you
> confuddled me with talk of NOTE OFF. Per...
>
> But good point for you to check Tim... that the offset note
> number adds up to the one you have chosen in Source Offset
> on your EDP
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> There is a setting in the EDP where you can off-set MIDI
> Note numbers
>
> sent from a MIDI pedal into the EDP. This can be used to
> move the midi
>
> not control range to the absolutely lowest or highest note
> range if
>
> you want to make room for playing a MIDI instrument on the
> same MIDI
>
> channel. It can be useful in other ways too, but if you
> don't know
>
> about it you may be confused why all the midi notes you
> send to the
>
> EDP is not affecting the commands you have assigned them
> too.
>
> "Off-set" is not what it is called in the EDP
> manual, rather what it
>
> does. Maybe it's called "Note Base" or
> something in EDP-ish...?
>
>
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
>
>
> Per Boysen
>
> www.boysen.se >
> www.perboysen.c= om
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/3/27 mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009
> at 9:39 AM, Per Boysen <perb= oysen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> note off-set
>
> >
>
> > Whats that Per? My instructions he followed show that
> he has to use NOTES,
>
> > but is/was there a note OFF setting I forgot...?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> www.markfra= ncombe.com
> http://vimeo= .com/user825094
> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
>
>
> htt= p://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
> http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non= %20Synch
>
>
>
>







--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://vimeo.com/user825094
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancom= be
http://www.myspace.com/mar= kfrancombe
http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Sy= nch
--0016368e2b1d5771240466300437-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 16:10:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D16403BE93; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:10:25 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903280910k221b0555ge7858e1707ebd5aa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new pedal in town From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dee96e30778c04663017db Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6dee96e30778c04663017db Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I got the manual thanks... looks interesting... but really interesting?? I dont know... Main problem seems to be non-syncability... Im not interested in chorus or flanger but Im always interested in pitchshifters, and certainly the routing thing looks VERY interesting... is there anyway to make the effects dynamic.. I see the env follower thing (can this be applied to anything?? um delay speed, sample end? or just eq and levels?) Also can you make internal feedback loops? and can you connect a control surface up to parameters easily? it seems much more cool if you can "Get to the parameters" for real time tweakage... Or I am missing the whole point of it... m On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:20 AM, van Sinn wrote: > mark francombe wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn > vansinn@post.cybercity.dk>> wrote: >> >> Digitech TSR-24S; >> >> >> Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick run down >> on how the features you mentioned works, env follower and whotsit-gate... >> they sound intriguing >> >> anyone know online manual anywhere? >> >> M >> > > The manual is available from digitech; look in discuntinued products. > > It's a complex device. Two inputs, four outputs, an effects library, and > everything routable just about any which way you want. > > This means: Start with an input, pick an effect, link them, pick the next, > link, split into two paralles lines, pick effects and link for each line, > split one line again (to have three parallel), pick and link, create a > feedback with effects in it and link it to a mixer... > Any effect can be reused as you wish; it's a matter of when you run short > of processing power and memory. > > So, you can do mono in, mono out, mono in stereo out, stereo in stereo out, > one mono in/out + one mono in / stereo out... > > Reverbs, echoes, single/multipole chrous, flangers, parametric EQ, > multiband EQ, pitch transpose, harmonizing... > > The envelope follower means effect parameters can be controlled by dynamics > in playing style, i.e. for ducking reverb, echo feedback buildup, chorous > speed/depth... I mostly use this to add-in some 4-tap echo and > harmonizing when sustaining notes/chords. > > The TSR-24S (dual DSP's) runs a bit hot, so needs free space around it. > TSR-24 (single DSP) runs cooler. > > Programming may take time ;) > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6dee96e30778c04663017db Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got the manual thanks... looks interesting... but really interesting?? I = dont know... Main problem seems to be non-syncability...
Im not interes= ted in chorus or flanger

but Im always interested in pitchshifters, = and certainly the routing thing looks VERY interesting... is there anyway t= o make the effects dynamic.. I see the env follower thing (can this be appl= ied to anything?? um=A0 delay speed, sample end? or just eq and levels?)
Also can you make internal feedback loops? and can you connect a contro= l surface up to parameters easily? it seems much more cool if you can "= ;Get to the parameters" for real time tweakage... Or I am missing the = whole point of it...

m

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:20 AM, van Sinn <= span dir=3D"ltr"><vansinn@post.cybercity.dk> wrote:
mark francombe wrote:


On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn <vansinn@post.cybercity.dk <mailto= :vansinn@pos= t.cybercity.dk>> wrote:

=A0 =A0Digitech TSR-24S;


Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick run down o= n how the features you mentioned works, env follower and whotsit-gate... th= ey sound intriguing

anyone know online manual anywhere?

M

The manual is available from digitech; look in discuntinued products.

It's a complex device. =A0Two inputs, four outputs, an effects library,= and everything routable just about any which way you want.

This means: Start with an input, pick an effect, link them, pick the next, = link, split into two paralles lines, pick effects and link for each line, s= plit one line again (to have three parallel), pick and link, create a feedb= ack with effects in it and link it to a mixer...
Any effect can be reused as you wish; it's a matter of when you run sho= rt of processing power and memory.

So, you can do mono in, mono out, mono in stereo out, stereo in stereo out,= one mono in/out + one mono in / stereo out...

Reverbs, echoes, single/multipole chrous, flangers, parametric EQ, multiban= d EQ, pitch transpose, harmonizing...

The envelope follower means effect parameters can be controlled by dynamics= in playing style, i.e. for ducking reverb, echo feedback buildup, chorous = speed/depth... =A0 =A0I mostly use this to add-in some 4-tap echo and harmo= nizing when sustaining notes/chords.

The TSR-24S (dual DSP's) runs a bit hot, so needs free space around it.=
TSR-24 (single DSP) runs cooler.

Programming may take time =A0;)

--
rgds,
van Sinn




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--0016e6dee96e30778c04663017db-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 16:12:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDF1A3BE95; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 356 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:12:11 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 437726.40923.bm@omp208.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238256375; bh=y00xlcF02SP9y84MLefsNUO8iTw1s1X/Dj9xci2A8iM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GfhPgZd3YL0VUZahYm52jzlvYeaaAu2DSBressUC/O8OSV6orQgm19bwhUCqdEATFsz4ZF6MGt8pxbhmn74ynBFh8sEdLECyDh1dFTrLId34L107rICcfh77Nx64Lhm2Bs2l9Q8BaQJYXfa5VO+xUhdxX4P+W1xj/yNGgWa0ico= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l/BBPnR2B7STrvTXfXKTgnus6Zhd3HwmKgXUBo4QaiIkZZwiluS8hrVzQB5W250RgSdzPV/oklL7lvVJ4chi4S6DPvb+hU/RK40RCaMU8ghUIFYe6GzT7SXvAMfYlsoBsg8i3CTdB0LosphEKj1U3tib3oX+aMiXfjlUEuxUSLY=; Message-ID: <147373.91212.qm@web45304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 09VADB8VM1nwi6WMc4hWz6Bs.oThSGXaBy.ThU3hVrKHOd3K9PIu8Od4YCm7oubWDQvPwjjoHsqAjVcjL7xzPqBhukJBlLayNzDrsASk7EZIHyP6uwePySs3n1TKiTIgkaz767zcuMfOUXyOfMxKdb3QhWqMysGHo4W.JedWr3gSAzvxWj9czigbGpP7C3XHNNfKB6nxVeJCN4sXBNRPbnwLlmuLeL1aZMoxumpa7LFPPqhb_Or3Oxl4vAmA46J1gXof378zq4EyN54R_Lb6hcC3_X3n X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:12:11 +0000 (UTC) --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >....if she reached into her fridge and > made a sammy during her song it would have been much better..... Heh, I noticed the fridge when I watched it too. Once in the early 80's I was playing at an outdoor house party where the house had just been renovated and there were several large discarded appliances (fridge, oven, washer, dryer) in the back yard that we dragged over to supplement the backline. Marshall stacks and big Sunn bass amps look somewhat surreal lined up with avocado and harvest gold appliances on either side of the drum kit... -t- ps: as for Klobuchar dancing better than Teresa Andersson, I admit to a certain amount of skepticism... http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 16:14:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7019D3BEA0; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CE2423.3070401@tiscali.co.uk> References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <49CDF872.7060606@tiscali.co.uk> <49CE0C35.2060808@post.cybercity.dk> <49CE2423.3070401@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:14:31 +0100 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903280914u105282b5m8d136e8256e5641d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new pedal in town From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5ba59d691d704663025c3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:14:47 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5ba59d691d704663025c3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:20 PM, andy butler wrote: > many thanks > andy > ps this looks like a duel to the death with Mark on ebay :-) > Oh you saw that did you... damn... ! -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --001636c5ba59d691d704663025c3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:20 PM, andy bu= tler <akbutl= er@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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andy
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--001636c5ba59d691d704663025c3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 16:24:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4137A3BEA9; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238257488; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=CfrGBHaogxLmMYRfTA/JgWIpu4c=; b=lkWBhiZ13jj5YXFtUoE9ykmOrqVdvplQf3UmQxoKMHtfOki8rAOia3DNcM83ONxD ds4w0Y3B7Nl6xm7jj4KxnF/pHl3YACCyzMJcR0L5RKL6JPzledrnMNpSvu9LTFnn; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=TPDM2pvvN5IY-rUxBOoA:9 a=Sylwvuw84Gqxc9L7jWol4x5mimgA:4 a=QMgMR9M9BAsA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001601c9afc1$b673ef90$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <147373.91212.qm@web45304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:24:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <5Se2tB.A.bKC.R9kzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Jeff likes this! Oops, I have been on Facebook too much...lol j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Nelson" To: Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson > > --- On Sat, 3/28/09, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >>....if she reached into her fridge and >> made a sammy during her song it would have been much better..... > > Heh, I noticed the fridge when I watched it too. > > Once in the early 80's I was playing at an outdoor house party where the > house had just been renovated and there were several large discarded > appliances (fridge, oven, washer, dryer) in the back yard that we dragged > over to supplement the backline. Marshall stacks and big Sunn bass amps > look somewhat surreal lined up with avocado and harvest gold appliances on > either side of the drum kit... > > -t- > > ps: as for Klobuchar dancing better than Teresa Andersson, I admit to a > certain amount of skepticism... > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 16:39:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BB1E3BE97; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <4AD142D7-CC27-4587-84B0-7A5F4D2CB3B8@grubmah.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Subject: Re: new pedal in town Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:39:08 -0700 References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:39:07 +0000 (UTC) The Digitech unit sounds reminiscent of the Korg AM8000R. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 18:39:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8850A3BE89; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238265563; bh=17eftM7+WFpKEkokw1itHFWs6cjhE8wRtMP9SPyUYLU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QnyLvwxeFKqmPT7EMWBMEnX8rJiNPb1gWphR0ZNS0ZNCBq4KDm+WTOtIUE9/za3xSz+Sl5hwlbj04b0umwaG/brekQiezCg/XWXxYSYFNcJrKLWXk0jvImlZmqO+QeJawmB2ckCelMauEtaS8P9pIhLn1BdW44DXnw1VgKYSnrg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=2ArvRN/ZnVDrfC6E+T60lioNUnGrL5WLe1JJ1vuPNqSAnkyBb7LiBlyKSaiP7vamEuIp+UEzXcWCsaXIsNhlhuboG75Zn9QojLueKfIbdxXLeo6uDCRxhodwH+THzpT9RhwBhtOv0poM0RyR/qRQhxXV2KL5T1sxuyiEKXEuor4=; Message-ID: <278140.12909.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 430V_5QVM1mfFiP12dUQp1L.FvQKsq6BI8Guw9mOVWyXEnIiTNYg8s1caDj2LGAYn7aKFK2NVcq5OKq5qKxLmIlizZY6KyS9VsDglTCtBo4sS_ASjUjl_7Fc0p4nuDhZ7.v92Ex6NsGdGxgqjK_0eiWuE6C2JSlSukcpSO72Q2lsyYKw2DQx7Mqv3YYkppvELMc- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 11:39:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5YdkyD.A.fVG.c7mzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:39:24 +0000 (UTC) also i noticed that shes not using a mixer,unimaginable when you are dealin= g with so many microphones!=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- = On Sat, 3/28/09, Per Boysen wrote:=0A=0A> From: Per B= oysen =0A> Subject: Re: Teresa Andersson=0A> To: Loope= rs-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Saturday, March 28, 2009, 3:55 AM= =0A> >> From: Tony K =0A> >> Subject: Teresa Andersson= =0A> >> To: "loopers-delight" =0A> >> = Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 12:05 PM=0A> >> I thought this was quite well= =0A> >> done.=A0 Wonder what she's using for loopers.=0A> >>=0A> >> http://= www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvMXqn42AykM=0A> =0A> =0A> Two RC-50s.=0A> You can= see them better here:=0A> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dn2eD4GcLohE&fea= ture=3Drelated=0A> =0A> Greetings from Sweden=0A> =0A> Per Boysen=0A> www.b= oysen.se=0A> www.perboysen.com=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 18:46:50 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42C5F3BE89; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=KzEvNd1HMl2771+NN2fZTtN2IeHxKd/EOW/oVY1NOqc=; b=l96bPY6fDgN3BPjAmPQnSVT6E15cQaykHe8cp9N2X8XBOL0EQAjHViwo6Cb+enE2eE +OnC4//KHjYBk9KXFyWk1H2EL7Yb9bAq3QHy0othifgET9kdKlb0PWPT/PKVCFrj8EBo yjbD+J4jRWA+H1BIp+snTY1xXEyMl8t74qH9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=DERT83+0TXIz47/ZuGR95IcFuNK0ILgf40sSF9QWMwKx5rtdGA+eCFt70af+8ClRK1 lKCeZQqVdIkBmfzW9MUGK0fW4CAsbbhd20SRyIc5vc0Fkut3g+AfA4dgqoKVhUpsB90V tyvQNHCV4Yx6zbMJh7FX9wIZDIla964XG1BLo= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 19:46:49 +0100 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903281146k7272e777ifb2bf9fea995f4d2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Epiphone Les Paul Ultra-II in the loop? From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7jeFH.A.FqG.aCnzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:46:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Is anyone here playing an Epiphone Les Paul Ultra-II in the loop? http://is.gd/pqzP I'm just checking one out here for a couple of days and really like the sounds you get with the humbuckers and the NanoMag pickup in the fretboard. Like "Les Paul and Strat at the same time", which is weird - but that's the sound. Then you can roll off certain characters of the sound to sculpture it. Must be good for looping since you can easily layer differently sounding guitar work. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 18:52:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD20D3BE8B; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=W2niqTW8or/pkaW/s2fEoD9Wl8AhhiH2yXohhBMyAZc=; b=jsS5MGwXQ4TpJ0rcT54u94+WqDHH9yorJQ86UYkm8OBN3K1pWVXvVPCp5TfnSEvmPw 0dfT9x+7tNXXw/wm9pOtyojhQXV6ZRceMCXeMsStxtRnqXpooA3DMaogcjkiMmH8incb j4zN1/MxigLiIdtjxo0Fk1o4QIw/FWiGnaWWc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=i5Hs8/Ly0Z9MRbzEOqnBEW1UP+9ZjZkSx1uV8A2JoVTDbh6s4b8Dk2rAokreqTuOyN NEsuwHwdmUZk7dyIM0/pr7VrgM19/tlpWKqjEvjyMDWraWErqmTW99DFfiUYKbn8A6QI 2ea7NFL3SN3Mmr5SR7QIqKYkX6/L9UcSsuQxY= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:52:31 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903281152r62b1cf21oe72aef9b96303f99@mail.gmail.com> Subject: best VST compressor? From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e0b96d04e91e0466325a9b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:52:32 +0000 (UTC) --001636e0b96d04e91e0466325a9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Whatever kind of ware, free or non. What's the best software compressor? More specifically for studio mastering, but also for live tracks of bass/melody-noise/drum. And, of course, why you think such. Danke. -nn happyhumans.org --001636e0b96d04e91e0466325a9b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whatever kind of ware, free or non.

What's the best software com= pressor?=A0 More specifically for studio mastering, but also for live track= s of bass/melody-noise/drum.

And, of course, why you think such.

Danke.

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--001636e0b96d04e91e0466325a9b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 20:00:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 914B83BE8C; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0JhhDTIa8BdH7jRVsxHduyrslkJ3s+WauIzUZOnlWYA=; b=ijblvUnsx0hfeB3AycqMh/jMeyvnRSx+XmgGs7T6DnObWe6xq0o7gmS21EYquUQYMg EwVOmm3C9+zUe5WpTBi/6P6jHyI9xUZthNoVRJ8U2+347jpEdYDyZAGg3jM8iamUmnlE 5JO6u3/hyQUH9XID4YKF0xe5AOhENP6y1jZTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=aDoqaglpHSEPnrlqcwwvhR2fQfftps+H7MNfx5/doF5RYAKTpIelImeUDXxGbbaaWb txQ2lNGAYPNE6WF9ntt18yhZkia2xvUUYSiQcTpR+eCm2uVZ6PgzVDKWKPRxoAX/8uyT VnUsqrAbGacprYXkIpcfncfae9/kvQ3ilLaok= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8C5D8A13-6129-4EA5-A18A-E400473A4BE0@verizon.net> References: <263696.32063.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <3fa302e30903271914w182aa0aeq3fc09e341c415c0f@mail.gmail.com> <8C5D8A13-6129-4EA5-A18A-E400473A4BE0@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:00:46 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903281300l61bbc4f3pab76f1ea7aaa6d4c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT: Cheap Sub woofer From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1af8c1bd0640466334e52 Resent-Message-ID: <-vJD4C.A.V1.wHozJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:00:48 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd1af8c1bd0640466334e52 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah: I want to know the particulars! 8-/ Tone, dynamics, sag, realistic feel? . . . y'know, the usual guitar-centric opinions. Sounds like it didn't pull you away from your amps, so that's not a good sign. -m On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Miko Biffle wrote: > > Anyone using The Fractal Audio Axe processor? -m >> > > I have one, but I haven't used it much yet. I know a lot of people who own > them (and actually use them! lol). Anything in particular you want to know? > > Jeff > > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd1af8c1bd0640466334e52 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah: I want to know the particulars! 8-/=A0 Tone, dynamics, sag, realistic= feel?=A0 . . . y'know, the usual guitar-centric opinions.=A0 Sounds li= ke it didn't pull you away from your amps, so that's not a good sig= n.=A0 -m

On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Shirke= y <jcshirke@ve= rizon.net> wrote:

On Mar 27, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Miko Biffle wrote:

Anyone using The Fractal Audio Axe processor? =A0-m

I have one, but I haven't used it much yet. I know a lot of people who = own them (and actually use them! lol). Anything in particular you want to k= now?

Jeff




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Miko Biffle
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MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
"Running scared from a= ll the usual distractions!"
--000e0cd1af8c1bd0640466334e52-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 20:07:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CA4C3BE87; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Y0+4iw0RsU/rsB7U6Yvvxi3KI4jVLOTwX70NmNWUW8M=; b=k5S/hfy3mH8hpPgcXkjuYdV50vVf4pjIG9MqnUM9EGCZ07f0cCCaxiML9RDFlh1Oxq dY2ShT0hL118DrxTWFv9/Di5HdxNh8hYX0T3iiH+vgbLcgpK7SyD0lgT+97JMwtlgIJg 3fVM8nZquSO+bJYCisJtMvE2ib0q9odr4XmcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Tg2SjHJlOB29BDSTY0eluAm+j3KSlpi5idiFk4JI9rJokcm3H2Y0t8RHtPs2f5DuzS Kcjvw+/aEOQXHzmkhaZ31ShmRmGw4KZ2cwZvHCGvAW+qUj75XgJ+2xkdcnAv5I9qLvwi Wwdi1ggtgNDItibfizKeHKwHwgHV6haoGIJho= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AD142D7-CC27-4587-84B0-7A5F4D2CB3B8@grubmah.com> References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <4AD142D7-CC27-4587-84B0-7A5F4D2CB3B8@grubmah.com> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:07:44 -0700 Message-ID: <3fa302e30903281307y375ba79fkd6aebaa662f904ca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: new pedal in town From: Miko Biffle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2176c0cf8b40466336767 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:07:46 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd2176c0cf8b40466336767 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TSR is way more programmable than the AM8000R. I had both, preceded by the venerable Digitech IPS-33B which was also very programmable, but the TSR really blew doors and was way ahead of it's time. Digitech was also responsible for the PMC-10 Midi Floor Controller, which despite it's bugginess, was an incredible piece of kit. The Behringer is a pale shadow by comparison. On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Mark Hamburg wrote: > The Digitech unit sounds reminiscent of the Korg AM8000R. > > Mark > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" --000e0cd2176c0cf8b40466336767 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TSR is way more programmable than the AM8000R.=A0 I had both, preceded by t= he venerable Digitech IPS-33B which was also very programmable, but the TSR= really blew doors and was way ahead of it's time. Digitech was also re= sponsible for the PMC-10 Midi Floor Controller, which despite it's bugg= iness, was an incredible piece of kit.=A0 The Behringer is a pale shadow by= comparison.=A0

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Mark Hambur= g <mark@grubmah.co= m> wrote:
The Digitech unit sounds reminiscent of the Korg AM8000R.

Mark
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Miko Biffle
Biffoz@Gmail.comMBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
"Running scared from all the usual distr= actions!"
--000e0cd2176c0cf8b40466336767-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 20:18:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D15443BE87; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238271479; bh=7t8HstYDrByMXZK4+bOOLuDgDvSgWnQhX5F8Vn0zVcI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P+798N4GPBbb51Rdwph8X7bA004X8Lm1obWcu3CXksQusI8LqmtOI1GlPtcjMJ10JtmcXbQx34ME+e4z7V++lLNippp0trW3ss2Jh1c9/bUyNflkzPGIEytcrXvny2YZVqtVJeuM5Fp7q0IK1uB41Z0jaTLieDljzkrgzVDVXqk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y5v1hz9Ug+0+GFIzcUIMiDLoeCAuu4fP8VB1MIM0UhCX69g60OnyMdGvaiWJvAzmTiTOvd9FasCFIzOl6xBunjSmqFelOOg2/dduDADx5mGoLZtSVfTm1a9RoUAUWfH08I8i5Xr6aLMjaPihVnFJLVslG4JsCj2usgfMDDCgZfk=; Message-ID: <778932.71305.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c78UzSYVM1maMIiYgkgXZd9oniW7NTTbIughVetesyya2N4SA5JHIr.Yi7w9w.REhktJE7qtUpEm5vwFqpKGIqEWdsO8FSwGzIqR1Ah.kA33J1VsZ_oMp6W_njFpF4SJijj3AVRY_GhDXBryqQLmoOI9YZ2IYqSeTkc9ReOuGgXGaN13N4OhG0LMAqfgbA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: motu ultralite midi sync problem To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <6sX-c.A.ofB.4XozJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sjaak, I just got a motu Ultralite which i am trying out, i am using mobius with midi sync out and my drum box midi in,but i ma having some problems. When i dont do any recording with my mobius software everthing functions fine but once i record a loop i cant even change my drum box patterns with my fcb1010 or do any start stop anymore! The motu has way more options than my previous presonus under clock source you can choose: Internal spdif SMPTE built in audio Other Ive tried all of them but the problem remain how do you have yours setup? thanx Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 20:46:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90E563BE8C; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238273188; bh=N33D6LHJ35Wf84fFExwvfZTtpNU/9aEYijXu3eUqARM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=40jWzIR4EiKFeiBx7ZQ98Hs8XFp++beaM0yl54ffZH4nzCoH5XRWDXTQLVEXkYXILPAxbPTq/vijyHrUBz6UHG8G06/3X39wt720e1C7FdJoiG+tyUD6qokd17nsGuI5O2NfNqKLXVYNiIaBv4gWJmv78C3lx4sjuZU4wgAVdCM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u1IHUZadyck7I8SfRcIPwYIOg7IgYP8w5Fbt/U4vS+X/XAOY/P3lXZ1S/ONzbUqQ9PXMBpKRUpf3NReHRSByNDtqpC/k5BUGJ82PgtkXFOcapkKv5wEYUDmK4TzMLxZAFJV+mLrt1Fg3kqVU5ME0t/aCUgA6a9qrrsIr1xpnfv0=; Message-ID: <505329.6822.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OW36H.wVM1kKBF3GQaqWEnSsFPMwKz3WYMKi1mOaN.4PAjnhj4I87xx9H4uVvFz085yp0hLLTE6Z0L9uhx_su.CZpJMHmY1TPIIwDKOc..V9lhCAJwBrUXRHBjPPUXdPwhc7LGALh3Sxn1kT8.RX49yBbV3VWCWDyQdpNBDZnSd2K7gGltNDEi1A0iILBnV92ejbwOU0mJEmv.I3Bbe260OdNiNL4Lf5UDcXG9wzeDz9 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:46:28 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: OT: cheap sub woofer? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1262716759-1238273188=:6822" Resent-Message-ID: <0JARpD.A.1PC.lyozJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:46:29 +0000 (UTC) --0-1262716759-1238273188=:6822 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i posed this question, b/c i wasn't ha= ppy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8" speaker amps (12 watt kustom & 10= watt marshall). there were times when i could hear the bass response just = really crapping out, since i usually tune down a whole step to D (i've deba= ted trying a small bass amp too). i had a nice discussion w/ jeff duke and = he said that he uses a behringer ultratone keyboard amp that has a 12" spea= ker (can't remember wattage-maybe 90?). i watched a couple of his vid perfo= rmances in his studio (jeff post them, i can't remember site off hand), and= i thought his sound was great/amazing=A0even coming over my tiny computer = speakers... -it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey tele and the smal= l store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an amazing sound,. so clear and= crisp! so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to get something w/ a = bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12" speaker hopefully).=20 -oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a GP a yr or 2 ago about= how he uses some portable PA system for his live playing. it's lighter tha= n a big tube amp & he liked the sound (i can't remember the brand, but i re= member looking up the thing after the review and saw it was way over my pri= ce budget-i thought close to 1000$). -2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now discontinued i think) tu= be amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded great, but in my little studio = IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound though i thought. i took it back an= d decided to be happy w/ my smaller amps. happy searching...always searching for the best tone...neverending....... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-1262716759-1238273188=:6822 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
-about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i p= osed this question, b/c i wasn't happy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8= " speaker amps (12 watt kustom & 10 watt marshall). there were times wh= en i could hear the bass response just really crapping out, since i usually= tune down a whole step to D (i've debated trying a small bass amp too). i = had a nice discussion w/ jeff duke and he said that he uses a behringer ult= ratone keyboard amp that has a 12" speaker (can't remember wattage-maybe 90= ?). i watched a couple of his vid performances in his studio (jeff post the= m, i can't remember site off hand), and i thought his sound was great/amazi= ng even coming over my tiny computer speakers...
-it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey tele and the= small store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an amazing sound,. so clea= r and crisp!
so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to get something = w/ a bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12" speaker hopefully).
-oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a GP a yr or 2 = ago about how he uses some portable PA system for his live playing. it's li= ghter than a big tube amp & he liked the sound (i can't remember the br= and, but i remember looking up the thing after the review and saw it was wa= y over my price budget-i thought close to 1000$).
-2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now discontinued i thin= k) tube amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded great, but in my little st= udio IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound though i thought. i took it ba= ck and decided to be happy w/ my smaller amps.
happy searching...always searching for the best tone...neverending....= ...
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=0A=0A --0-1262716759-1238273188=:6822-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 21:02:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7838F3BE8C; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CE9361.8060004@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:15:13 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Copyrighting services References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <0DC45C76DA904339A63FD14A0CEA50E6@ccs.local> <62516bc9b2715718d6493ac8330704ec@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <62516bc9b2715718d6493ac8330704ec@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:02:40 +0000 (UTC) tEd ? KiLLiAn wrote: > I've been an ASCAP member for 8 years if that's what you mean. > > On Mar 27, 2009, at 7:16 PM, BC wrote: > >> I was wondering if any of you have experience with any of those >> copyright services out there? >> >> I have 4 of my band's songs I would like to protect. >> >> If anyone has any tips in general, or any experience with a service >> that does all the work for you, I'd appreciate hearing about it. >> >> Thanks, >> Brian They just had a lengthy discussion about these things on the soundonsound.com forums, last month or so; browsable for guests IIRC.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 21:09:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D8F93BE91; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CE950C.8090605@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:22:20 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903280910k221b0555ge7858e1707ebd5aa@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903280910k221b0555ge7858e1707ebd5aa@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:09:46 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe wrote: > I got the manual thanks... looks interesting... but really interesting?? > I dont know... Main problem seems to be non-syncability... > Im not interested in chorus or flanger > > but Im always interested in pitchshifters, and certainly the routing > thing looks VERY interesting... is there anyway to make the effects > dynamic.. I see the env follower thing (can this be applied to > anything?? um delay speed, sample end? or just eq and levels?) IIRC, just about any parameter can be controlled by the env.follower. > Also can you make internal feedback loops? If you mean a feedback loop within your defined chain of effects, then yes. It's simply a matter of splitting the signal path in two, continue on part as if nothing had happened, and feeding the other through more effects as desired, ending in a mixed you insert earlier in the chain. > and can you connect a control > surface up to parameters easily? it seems much more cool if you can "Get > to the parameters" for real time tweakage... Or I am missing the whole > point of it... Like an external control surface? If it's a MIDI thingy sending CC commands, I'd guess it's a no-brainer, as the TSR has a pretty extensive MIDI implementation. > m > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:20 AM, van Sinn > wrote: > > mark francombe wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 12:05 AM, van Sinn > > >> wrote: > > Digitech TSR-24S; > > > Im very interested in this old device... Can you give me a quick > run down on how the features you mentioned works, env follower > and whotsit-gate... they sound intriguing > > anyone know online manual anywhere? > > M > > > The manual is available from digitech; look in discuntinued products. > > It's a complex device. Two inputs, four outputs, an effects > library, and everything routable just about any which way you want. > > This means: Start with an input, pick an effect, link them, pick the > next, link, split into two paralles lines, pick effects and link for > each line, split one line again (to have three parallel), pick and > link, create a feedback with effects in it and link it to a mixer... > Any effect can be reused as you wish; it's a matter of when you run > short of processing power and memory. > > So, you can do mono in, mono out, mono in stereo out, stereo in > stereo out, one mono in/out + one mono in / stereo out... > > Reverbs, echoes, single/multipole chrous, flangers, parametric EQ, > multiband EQ, pitch transpose, harmonizing... > > The envelope follower means effect parameters can be controlled by > dynamics in playing style, i.e. for ducking reverb, echo feedback > buildup, chorous speed/depth... I mostly use this to add-in some > 4-tap echo and harmonizing when sustaining notes/chords. > > The TSR-24S (dual DSP's) runs a bit hot, so needs free space around it. > TSR-24 (single DSP) runs cooler. > > Programming may take time ;) > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://vimeo.com/user825094 > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 21:12:47 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E51683BE8F; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238274766; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ucsTzKTZMHz+3cNbKPo8lrSLLig=; b=PJN20foob1PO2IBRHFULLQJhcfu9limH/b/iKFne94Pt3+IMFosESkvBATV/K2HG j6UqvW3WXjLuZTKAc8O1JG8p1knkGYtAnq7zFgy0u+YU+KRco0ELF7kKf8L0S4r7; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=HhjYtufwOAE4CWyHO40A:9 a=xQe5pPhrsaB8QM2PUzoBjn0DWhcA:4 a=6BEIpMDiMxIA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cN7AxVEKKOoXkBWf:21 a=8ajTnSc-7vf_CTB_:21 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=p3GR35jNUY4oMpNKce4A:9 a=Gn9LBlcUPRe0b91QOlgA:7 a=hw8anmYo7cUdYRiyK14-xDOygi8A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9afe9$fd2bd9c0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <505329.6822.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: cheap sub woofer? Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:13:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AFC8.74F43050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:12:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AFC8.74F43050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott, thanks for your kind words but none of the audio in anything I = have on the web was recorded from speakers. I strictly run direct off my = chain of gizmos to a 4 ch Behringer mixer then to a minidisk and my = computer running Audacity. All of the amp models are from a RP 250 these = days because it's cheap! I use the amp or small monitors or headphones only for my listening. I = am not using the amp now because I'm back to stereo. It does kick ass = when jamming with friends though. And it is the 180w model. How they = arrive rating at that I wouldn't know... best, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: scott hansen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: OT: cheap sub woofer? -about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i posed this question, b/c = i wasn't happy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8" speaker amps (12 = watt kustom & 10 watt marshall). there were times when i could hear the = bass response just really crapping out, since i usually tune down a = whole step to D (i've debated trying a small bass amp too). i had a nice = discussion w/ jeff duke and he said that he uses a behringer ultratone = keyboard amp that has a 12" speaker (can't remember wattage-maybe 90?). = i watched a couple of his vid performances in his studio (jeff post = them, i can't remember site off hand), and i thought his sound was = great/amazing even coming over my tiny computer speakers... -it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey tele = and the small store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an amazing = sound,. so clear and crisp! so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to get = something w/ a bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12" speaker = hopefully).=20 -oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a GP a yr or = 2 ago about how he uses some portable PA system for his live playing. = it's lighter than a big tube amp & he liked the sound (i can't remember = the brand, but i remember looking up the thing after the review and saw = it was way over my price budget-i thought close to 1000$). -2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now discontinued = i think) tube amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded great, but in my = little studio IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound though i thought. = i took it back and decided to be happy w/ my smaller amps. happy searching...always searching for the best = tone...neverending....... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen = http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 = http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AFC8.74F43050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Scott, thanks for your kind words but = none of the=20 audio in anything I have on the web was recorded from speakers. I = strictly=20 run direct off my chain of gizmos to a 4 ch Behringer mixer then to = a=20 minidisk and my computer running Audacity. All of the amp models = are from a=20 RP 250 these days because it's cheap!
I use the amp or small monitors or = headphones only=20 for my listening. I am not using the amp now because I'm back to stereo. = It does=20 kick ass when jamming with friends though. And it is the 180w model. How = they=20 arrive rating at that I wouldn't know...
 
best,
 
Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 scott=20 hansen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 = 4:46=20 PM
Subject: OT: cheap sub = woofer?

-about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i posed this question, = b/c i=20 wasn't happy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8" speaker amps = (12 watt=20 kustom & 10 watt marshall). there were times when i could = hear the=20 bass response just really crapping out, since i usually tune = down a=20 whole step to D (i've debated trying a small bass amp too). i = had a nice=20 discussion w/ jeff duke and he said that he uses a behringer = ultratone=20 keyboard amp that has a 12" speaker (can't remember = wattage-maybe 90?).=20 i watched a couple of his vid performances in his studio (jeff = post=20 them, i can't remember site off hand), and i thought his sound = was=20 great/amazing even coming over my tiny computer = speakers...
-it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey = tele and=20 the small store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an amazing = sound,.=20 so clear and crisp!
so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to get = something w/ a bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12" = speaker=20 hopefully).
-oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a GP = a yr or=20 2 ago about how he uses some portable PA system for his live = playing.=20 it's lighter than a big tube amp & he liked the sound (i = can't=20 remember the brand, but i remember looking up the thing after = the review=20 and saw it was way over my price budget-i thought close to = 1000$).
-2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now = discontinued i=20 think) tube amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded great, but = in my=20 little studio IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound though i = thought.=20 i took it back and decided to be happy w/ my smaller amps.
happy searching...always searching for the best=20 tone...neverending.......
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D2355036323= 89016121
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553= 161416906&hl=3Den
=
 

------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9AFC8.74F43050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 21:14:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A50573BE97; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CE9629.6000507@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:27:05 +0100 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new pedal in town References: <21644246.303290.1237821652868.JavaMail.root@vms073.mailsrvcs.net> <49CB60C0.9070409@post.cybercity.dk> <931DF6AE-62D3-4ED6-950E-6F7B09607A39@mac.com> <7EB9C8D9-344F-44F9-B94F-60C89C865A3C@verizon.net> <1659AE9B-ABBE-46C7-9491-4D3A4BA09810@verizon.net> <49CC0A1D.6080302@post.cybercity.dk> <9ab0c76f0903270142ye4b6c82jad1fe130cec858b0@mail.gmail.com> <49CD5F58.1030800@post.cybercity.dk> <4AD142D7-CC27-4587-84B0-7A5F4D2CB3B8@grubmah.com> <3fa302e30903281307y375ba79fkd6aebaa662f904ca@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30903281307y375ba79fkd6aebaa662f904ca@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:14:30 +0000 (UTC) That I didn't know. But couple the TSR with a Gordius pedal, and.. ;) Like I said in an earlier post, I think the TSR was dropped not many understood how to program it - even though it's GUI/interface actually was designed to be useful without an engineering degree :D Pity Digitech dropped it, and have such a lame support.. Miko Biffle wrote: > TSR is way more programmable than the AM8000R. I had both, preceded by > the venerable Digitech IPS-33B which was also very programmable, but the > TSR really blew doors and was way ahead of it's time. Digitech was also > responsible for the PMC-10 Midi Floor Controller, which despite it's > bugginess, was an incredible piece of kit. The Behringer is a pale > shadow by comparison. > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Mark Hamburg > wrote: > > The Digitech unit sounds reminiscent of the Korg AM8000R. > > Mark > > -- > Miko Biffle > Biffoz@Gmail.com > MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com > "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 28 21:21:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 529E03BE92; Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238275269; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=6SYiaRTnwb+qUu4NA5rk/X9i0yI=; b=KuKnaY+Ulwci1hpGXDOaQY9AvYGhd9BgraHHqygL8sqvt3N575G4yrved+o9MjJe rpqKZGXffPR8hkFjTXfcrH++W2EXwT+tj8Y4GYVYGkv5cHzITQvaWNyI4EvVRVPs; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=WnzYjt4fAAAA:8 a=PMF4g2laAAAA:8 a=ZgFmqT6sAAAA:8 a=B8CpycrvAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=8U_8BYAIAAAA:20 a=X8lw9rmGAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=LgbmC7qkCGN474QQl9IA:9 a=Q6wdS3jXjnKjbJ4bfkSqwVzYy3sA:4 a=iThPzFy4DC0A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=GwZqvhK9eC5cy0S4:21 a=VDb5C8IshqJCzjIq:21 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=fXQGsv-jdNrlfeLb8KEA:9 a=Wc2tKrQyM7jYQJbKtVYA:7 a=aIfnslpkI7ly7TZkP7LCdjkL5aEA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001e01c9afeb$2a175f80$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <505329.6822.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000a01c9afe9$fd2bd9c0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: cheap sub woofer? Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:21:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9AFC9.A2BBBE30" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: <-R58nB.A.pbD.GTpzJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:21:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9AFC9.A2BBBE30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >(jeff post them, i can't remember site off hand) Sorry, I forgot the promo web site list..I think Vimeo has the best = quality audio. It's stereo anyway. :) http://jeffduke.org/ http://virb.com/jeffduke http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899 http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/ J ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 5:13 PM Subject: Re: cheap sub woofer? Scott, thanks for your kind words but none of the audio in anything I = have on the web was recorded from speakers. I strictly run direct off my = chain of gizmos to a 4 ch Behringer mixer then to a minidisk and my = computer running Audacity. All of the amp models are from a RP 250 these = days because it's cheap! I use the amp or small monitors or headphones only for my listening. I = am not using the amp now because I'm back to stereo. It does kick ass = when jamming with friends though. And it is the 180w model. How they = arrive rating at that I wouldn't know... best, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: scott hansen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:46 PM Subject: OT: cheap sub woofer? -about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i posed this question, = b/c i wasn't happy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8" speaker amps = (12 watt kustom & 10 watt marshall). there were times when i could hear = the bass response just really crapping out, since i usually tune down a = whole step to D (i've debated trying a small bass amp too). i had a nice = discussion w/ jeff duke and he said that he uses a behringer ultratone = keyboard amp that has a 12" speaker (can't remember wattage-maybe 90?). = i watched a couple of his vid performances in his studio (jeff post = them, i can't remember site off hand), and i thought his sound was = great/amazing even coming over my tiny computer speakers... -it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey tele = and the small store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an amazing = sound,. so clear and crisp! so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to get = something w/ a bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12" speaker = hopefully).=20 -oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a GP a yr = or 2 ago about how he uses some portable PA system for his live playing. = it's lighter than a big tube amp & he liked the sound (i can't remember = the brand, but i remember looking up the thing after the review and saw = it was way over my price budget-i thought close to 1000$). -2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now = discontinued i think) tube amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded = great, but in my little studio IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound = though i thought. i took it back and decided to be happy w/ my smaller = amps. happy searching...always searching for the best = tone...neverending....... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen = http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D235503632389016121 = http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553161416906&hl=3Den =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9AFC9.A2BBBE30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>(jeff post them, i can't remember site off hand)
 
Sorry, I forgot the promo web site = list..I=20 think Vimeo has the best quality audio. It's stereo anyway. = :)
 
http://jeffduke.org/
http://virb.com/jeffduke
http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke<= BR>http://themineisthemind.bl= ogspot.com/
http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
http://www.youtube.com/use= r/sticky899
http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/
 
J
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 = 5:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: cheap sub = woofer?

Scott, thanks for your kind words but = none of the=20 audio in anything I have on the web was recorded from speakers. I = strictly=20 run direct off my chain of gizmos to a 4 ch Behringer mixer then = to a=20 minidisk and my computer running Audacity. All of the amp models = are from=20 a RP 250 these days because it's cheap!
I use the amp or small monitors or = headphones=20 only for my listening. I am not using the amp now because I'm back to = stereo.=20 It does kick ass when jamming with friends though. And it is the 180w = model.=20 How they arrive rating at that I wouldn't know...
 
best,
 
Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 scott=20 hansen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, March 28, = 2009 4:46=20 PM
Subject: OT: cheap sub = woofer?

-about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i posed this = question, b/c i=20 wasn't happy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8" speaker = amps (12=20 watt kustom & 10 watt marshall). there were times when i = could=20 hear the bass response just really crapping out, since i = usually tune=20 down a whole step to D (i've debated trying a small bass amp = too). i=20 had a nice discussion w/ jeff duke and he said that he uses a=20 behringer ultratone keyboard amp that has a 12" speaker (can't = remember wattage-maybe 90?). i watched a couple of his vid=20 performances in his studio (jeff post them, i can't remember = site off=20 hand), and i thought his sound was great/amazing even = coming over=20 my tiny computer speakers...
-it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey = tele=20 and the small store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an = amazing=20 sound,. so clear and crisp!
so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to = get=20 something w/ a bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12" = speaker=20 hopefully).
-oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a = GP a yr=20 or 2 ago about how he uses some portable PA system for his = live=20 playing. it's lighter than a big tube amp & he liked the = sound (i=20 can't remember the brand, but i remember looking up the thing = after=20 the review and saw it was way over my price budget-i thought = close to=20 1000$).
-2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now = discontinued i=20 think) tube amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded great, = but in my=20 little studio IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound though i = thought. i took it back and decided to be happy w/ my smaller=20 amps.
happy searching...always searching for the best=20 tone...neverending.......
s---
www.myspace.com/scotthansen
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D2355036323= 89016121
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D5791548553= 161416906&hl=3Den
=
 

= ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C9AFC9.A2BBBE30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 00:23:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA4483BE86; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238286206; bh=V5y+TtThqXvWlqtdAJHmjJrDU8/qA6mDki/Wja39LMQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W73vo0/zW2IUULWmUGtrCG1EMojL3HTXUt/VAxOsudGkS8pSeAmIev7uewazb1J7c+n010fxtz0/3tNO2nXnD4J0yYcDEuUTWUR4hqjEkLqNECQZDe5fzps11cspeguyFkwDKeiqjBu+1XYH26elkFsoLVb19VZAx83O+Pp3oLk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=b3fCLzbrmdlxIGoRD50zOlaXn42oMpGi/dx+slybJmTK2IpfdO3pgH5b0Sih8nRJG3Kem2xQDti42WNZ8Lj+ubGbnUp24QdRNkpUulDAR+ASW7MtkZ5MZgm24uXgBzBxNdj7guP28ENW0ka3q/EgVLBPof1ZXITMKL65pcTL730=; Message-ID: <621673.51897.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NgpIjJsVM1k7C5b70CRHUX7j92JcGuyrDAYh6MxmTZVJbTTXnDXHxxLwjHB_J0_e6vv2w3QJPPgUDw_2Us_xTWyASviuyHSrZQvRKJ.NblBY3BjeEp4HvoFzg._SwE_wJz3GH6BfK9DOgZMpr737KJsC5w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: OT: subwoofer? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1420082879-1238286206=:51897" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:23:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-1420082879-1238286206=:51897 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just a followup- i was looking through my last vintage guitar magazine, and there was an art= icle on supro amps, supposedly the amp jimmy page used on 1st led zep album was a= =20 model S6420 Thunderbolt bass amp-35 watts, 15" speaker, volume & tone knob. =A0 i was of course looking on-line at other sources and there seems to be a lo= t of debate on this, different supro amp possibly used, etc or some other similar varia= tion.... so, i'm no expert on zep sound, but it sounds like an interesting amp... =A0 for me a 10 watt amp w/ a 15" speaker sounds good and interesting for my us= es.... oh well... s--- ps-i'm not sure if the page supro counts as cheap, the listings say it can = range from 800-1300$ depending on things...=0A=0A=0A --0-1420082879-1238286206=:51897 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
just a followup-
i was looking through my last vintage guitar magazine, and there was a= n article on
supro amps, supposedly the amp jimmy page used on 1st led zep album wa= s a
model S6420 Thunderbolt bass amp-35 watts, 15" speaker, volume & t= one knob.
 
i was of course looking on-line at other sources and there seems to be= a lot of debate
on this, different supro amp possibly used, etc or some other similar = variation....
so, i'm no expert on zep sound, but it sounds like an interesting amp.= ..
 
for me a 10 watt amp w/ a 15" speaker sounds good and interesting for = my uses....
oh well...
s---
ps-i'm not sure if the page supro counts as cheap, the listings say it= can range from 800-1300$ depending on things...
=0A=0A=0A=0A --0-1420082879-1238286206=:51897-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 01:10:09 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AF993BE89; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238289008; bh=aUw7m5djjRnS8a0aQSFH+vyxuudF4EHLrkg1Ypx71kg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MYtfVi77ADyZ5Sywqy6ALNkp3dJ/bSNGwpcyYtWoYhn/l2bMuQXIQtfpCSZMbbZeh0KK0skGikciqG8Hh9qshULc8OWDwrV3VcUU/qh/Sw+NVcVgYkBGxYldUU0qNX/MfSjhGFUipP4YJOOJogqc06lKGqlWPSjcXDOkkAbiKmc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cM2folRx/zRtHb9SkfqDgzn0HPywGhgkg738KwIsxucMEQ2yGxi4xBB3ytajG4kMrKEtaPH4JEvvrxdjnHje55vwqq7bJEnuYi2leyruX2uTS6Nq8iPsI4i6rtwG3OgienaBVbSslX6gQR2cLUmC/+LY2y1qoKtsyTfWwz/A2I4=; Message-ID: <191768.25953.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HPjOxrUVM1nQRqrVjoI6LGtUgj1X1QzpdKNqlbDXjcTC1z3VYLtKdjNpaw7hhxgYbjOV1wmKfxuP.jipV5k.yZ_iyrDUczcsl.X8kV4rOPgRJVeqhHbAJSV5pSXlFp3xiUR_96Yc7MJr8s_nNWJwrlKFEozflXoPo8DVs2mQ1DZc07A2c3q4WwTergaxi11PSpi8UAeq_.j4z7w8m9qc3NbZc0qJr2sxVO5K.nP6y6hC X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:10:08 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: ot: subwoofer: correction To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2006023823-1238289008=:25953" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 01:10:09 +0000 (UTC) --0-2006023823-1238289008=:25953 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii whoops, in my post i mentioned a crate amp, it's a crate v18, 18 watt amp, not 20 watt. my bad. sorry it does have a 12" speaker... s--- www.myspace.com/scotthansen http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en --0-2006023823-1238289008=:25953 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
whoops, in my post i mentioned a crate amp,
it's a crate v18, 18 watt amp, not 20 watt. my bad. sorry
it does have a 12" speaker...
s---

--0-2006023823-1238289008=:25953-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 06:04:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FFD73BE8C; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:04:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=s/wATbBWTHbMTy9iy6h2hdinu65JJJYv58u0YF2nEbE=; b=r5MQuHDDzdkVIDdwsEfkYvldTjJtzx7TttwoOnxLIRviHkyOmPDdAEAd3OzDOP97X/ SfcYHUL6WFaXCbK3RhsA6iNJ/HVWl2ohx6sHtoRh1BL1b6lA9eHBAo+pXe7a1eJC/5Ab vAJxT2NTKQpaCHds6Qp/PYE4yoW5ERDZWEVT8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lEsc96jWMp4N97nk+a6kIP70BAbJXOUpxUlu+iPVRzOeEoMVyu46nNjFtUG1GaXGy2 aJ0Atd+JQjsHT0GoDzfpoIeCI42iUopmcCn4ie2F4fnnDz2SDYUip2uTvBOCSKV7cCWZ SZpOgF4Q/OkbjfzZhShQzcz0I6N98UBVzZ16I= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000a01c9afe9$fd2bd9c0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> References: <505329.6822.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000a01c9afe9$fd2bd9c0$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 22:04:12 -0800 Message-ID: <333287c30903282304y5cb95b55td414148b95b848ce@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: cheap sub woofer? From: Nevyn Nowhere To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd32c482be40004663bbca0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:04:14 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd32c482be40004663bbca0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you don't record through speakers/amps/preamps, you really shouldn't use subbass speakers for simple monitoring while recording.... You want to hear what is being recorded y'know? -nn happyhumans.org On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Scott, thanks for your kind words but none of the audio in anything I > have on the web was recorded from speakers. I strictly run direct off my > chain of gizmos to a 4 ch Behringer mixer then to a minidisk and my computer > running Audacity. All of the amp models are from a RP 250 these days because > it's cheap! > I use the amp or small monitors or headphones only for my listening. I am > not using the amp now because I'm back to stereo. It does kick ass when > jamming with friends though. And it is the 180w model. How they arrive > rating at that I wouldn't know... > > best, > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* scott hansen > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:46 PM > *Subject:* OT: cheap sub woofer? > > -about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i posed this question, b/c i wasn't > happy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8" speaker amps (12 watt kustom & > 10 watt marshall). there were times when i could hear the bass response just > really crapping out, since i usually tune down a whole step to D (i've > debated trying a small bass amp too). i had a nice discussion w/ jeff duke > and he said that he uses a behringer ultratone keyboard amp that has a 12" > speaker (can't remember wattage-maybe 90?). i watched a couple of his vid > performances in his studio (jeff post them, i can't remember site off hand), > and i thought his sound was great/amazing even coming over my tiny computer > speakers... > -it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey tele and the > small store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an amazing sound,. so clear > and crisp! > so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to get something w/ a > bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12" speaker hopefully). > -oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a GP a yr or 2 ago about > how he uses some portable PA system for his live playing. it's lighter than > a big tube amp & he liked the sound (i can't remember the brand, but i > remember looking up the thing after the review and saw it was way over my > price budget-i thought close to 1000$). > -2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now discontinued i think) > tube amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded great, but in my little studio > IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound though i thought. i took it back and > decided to be happy w/ my smaller amps. > happy searching...always searching for the best tone...neverending....... > s--- > www.myspace.com/scotthansen > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=235503632389016121 > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5791548553161416906&hl=en > > > --000e0cd32c482be40004663bbca0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you don't record through speakers/amps/preamps, you really shouldn&#= 39;t use subbass speakers for simple monitoring while recording....=A0 You = want to hear what is being recorded y'know?

-nn
happyhumans.org

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Jeff Duke <= span dir=3D"ltr"><jeff_d@embarq= mail.com> wrote:
Scott, thanks for your kind words but = none of the=20 audio in anything I have on the web was recorded from speakers. I strictly= =20 run=A0direct off my chain of gizmos to a 4 ch Behringer mixer then to a=20 minidisk=A0and my computer running Audacity. All of the amp models are from= a=20 RP 250 these days because it's cheap!
I use the amp or small monitors or hea= dphones only=20 for my listening. I am not using the amp now because I'm back to stereo= . It does=20 kick ass when jamming with friends though. And it is the 180w model. How th= ey=20 arrive rating at that I wouldn't know...
=A0
best,
=A0
Jeff
=A0
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 scott=20 hansen
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 4:4= 6=20 PM
Subject: OT: cheap sub woofer?

-about a month and a 1/2 ago i think i posed this question, b/= c i=20 wasn't happy w/ the "bass" response in my small 8&quo= t; speaker amps (12 watt=20 kustom & 10 watt marshall). there were times when i could hear = the=20 bass response just really crapping out, since i usually tune down a= =20 whole step to D (i've debated trying a small bass amp too). i h= ad a nice=20 discussion w/ jeff duke and he said that he uses a behringer ultrat= one=20 keyboard amp that has a 12" speaker (can't remember wattag= e-maybe 90?).=20 i watched a couple of his vid performances in his studio (jeff post= =20 them, i can't remember site off hand), and i thought his sound = was=20 great/amazing=A0even coming over my tiny computer speakers...
-it reminded me of yrs ago, back in '94 i tested a peavey = tele and=20 the small store had a 50 watt pa head-wow, that was an amazing soun= d,.=20 so clear and crisp!
so the next time one of my amps craps out, i'm going to ge= t=20 something w/ a bigger speaker (i'm thinking small wattage 12&qu= ot; speaker=20 hopefully).
-oh-& there was a review done by craig anderton in a GP a = yr or=20 2 ago about how he uses some portable PA system for his live playin= g.=20 it's lighter than a big tube amp & he liked the sound (i ca= n't=20 remember the brand, but i remember looking up the thing after the r= eview=20 and saw it was way over my price budget-i thought close to 1000$).<= /div>
-2 months ago i bought and tested a crate v20 (now discontinue= d i=20 think) tube amp, 20 watts w/ 12" speaker. it sounded great, bu= t in my=20 little studio IT WAS WAY TOO LOUD!!! great bass sound though i thou= ght.=20 i took it back and decided to be happy w/ my smaller amps.
happy searching...always searching for the best=20 tone...neverending.......
s---
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--000e0cd32c482be40004663bbca0-- From mckenzie1@maktoob.com Sun Mar 29 10:50:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 105989 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:50:24 UTC Received: from bdnews24.com (mail.bdnews24.com [216.55.133.29]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD0F3BE84 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:50:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 6015 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2009 03:58:20 +0600 Received: from unknown (HELO admin) (82.128.104.121) by 192.168.0.2 with SMTP; 27 Mar 2009 03:58:18 +0600 Reply-To: From: "Hello Friend." Subject: Hi Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:01:08 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20090329105024.3AD0F3BE84@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Hello Friend. I 'm Mrs.Jennifer Mckenzie , a busssiness merchant and at this very end of my life i have a final dream which i need you to help me fulfill as I have been diagnosed with Esophageal cancer . It has defiled all forms of medical treatment, and right now I have only but a few months to live, according to medical experts.I have not particularly lived my life so well, as I never really cared for anyone(not even myself)but my business. Though I am very rich, I was never generous, I was always hostile to people and only focused on my business as that was the only thing I cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know that there is more to life than just wanting to have or make all the money in the world. I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way from how I have lived it. Now that God has called me, I have willed and given most of my property and assets to my immediate and extended family members as well as a few close friends.I want God to be merciful to me and accept my soul so, I have decided to give to charity organizations, and i also want you use my fund for charity foundation in your country and also for orphanage children as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth. Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this myself anymore. I once asked members of my family to close one of my accounts and distribute the money which I have there to charity organization in tsunami region they refused and kept the money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contended with what I have left for them.The last of my fund which no one knows of this , I will want you to help me collect this deposit and use it for charity organizations for HIV and AID victim and for the homeless children God be with you. Regards, Jennifer Mckenzie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 15:12:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 395EB3BE8E; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49CF8FBC.40105@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:11:56 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 28, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:12:06 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2009/090328.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #149 March 28, 2009. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Simon Champion] Campfires Sequences No. 5 VA [Nick Franks] Malabar Coast Sequences No. 5 VA [Wavestar] Gyroscopic Mutation Sequences No. 5 VA [Drumberg] External Forces Sequences No. 5 VA [Spinx] Astral Light Sequences No. 5 Craig Padilla, Zero Akasha Beyond the Portal (Lotuspike) Ohms, and Skip Murphy Ian Boddy Elemental Elemental (DiN) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Michael DeMaria Siyotanka Siyotanka (none) Al Gromer Khan Raga Ahir Bhairav Sitar Secrets (New Earth) Alaap Paul Lawler and We Are One Planting the Seed (Gemini Sun) Mark Holland Lisa Lynne and Gone Away Two Worlds One (New Earth) Aryeh Frankfurter Nick Farr The Ever Present Now The Ever Present Now(Riverboy) Forastiere Rag Tap Boom Live (Candyrat) Forastiere Nordamerica Live (Candyrat) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Sinkadus] Stuck In Hell Dante's Inferno (Musea) VA [Viima] XXIII Dante's Inferno (Musea) VA [NotaBene] La Profezia Dante's Inferno (Musea) Parallel or Ninety Afterlifecycle A Can of Worms (ProgRock) Degrees Sequence * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 15:29:16 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 564023BE93; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238340554; bh=jov+rI6MH8tN2iKpEshui+0mm9JalUeORsNbIUfG6Xc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IT+80/llodz00c8mfNj+kmljiNn1C/JaG1mz4jjxwUlqMbmN0aR64bfgWTjlcl7LeOA+zh2z6hjtwN4Tb4l0+0q2XgUyBvuQxUBuNj18xphXrYEhUwma52AVJW0Chs42VbANYMlJxOCmDwWzAE6HHc5K9JflPkdK3Q44/g+Ycgs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fmzRDfFubXQuaheot+XBEMb0BiyPicM8irS+cjWwXsSSWhriI/9BBu32Y2o/aMNHvhTvhqFIE6aUL4U4fGxUdvmosnSAn/cELrKek/nTo582JLG8kiOrE3rLbkTMgP4E3xghvb4Op7ZyO371Q5Jg9miVLykWpJfjAnixabtL5Lg=; Message-ID: <757974.18579.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rEsZnuoVM1l2_FKn9RxXl0a31ctXCHDsivZzKQ3mt1xzLTkmGYcoO0EmAbxQnRrs3pAjrXS4rI6RZGR_fF7AvQiIhd.CjFj7S0qwBNjR1G25x.GMOjN.D1BNJWakJybM7.ApSsTNiguNHlh8TWfNQhUHa6e2VVS1vBoUiPOVrt2MuXmQINMU5AkCVYcjE_a0ZVE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: motu ultralite and Mobius midi syncronization problem To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:29:16 +0000 (UTC) i gang, I just got a Motu Ultralite Mk III which i am trying out,i am using fcb1010 midi out to motu in-motu out to drum box in. Im sending program changes and start stop commands with my fb1010 to my drum box which works perfect,but as soon as i record a loop with mobius the midi messages seem to get interrupted and i can not do any change patches or do any midi start stop,i have to step on the switches several times for them to react.However when i disengage the midi out syncronization function on mobius everything works fine! motu is chosen as my primary and only midi device under midi devices in mobius. Ive checked out the messages being send with the midi monitor utility on my macbook and the messages seem to be being sent normally. any ideas? thanx Luis Ive tried all of them but the problem remains any ideas? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 15:57:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FD5F3BE9E; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LK/uloWvELl7sSiocEms1CwS+PzJ12wlSP7nFOfwwmk=; b=jF3QgKLMVhCgezFe2AkGWydF+44iQlGnRuO7co2SQQtKfDRViz0J5y91j96Ee9v7eA DD6UrTyBACkrPfKJpZWtJNY9X4lNSy+b8JE5Dk/K7WMskXDJf+ptkvVOPGSGLR3cnMXb gEumGYy2w7Azj2Nx9i7CbsD5V7WKA+15It2IM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=j3k5U9iYhwg0I9mLA+2hGXfd8y5a+yTlSZwTa853+IuIh9lAAQjRtlGeIQ6K4UeNbi M/KP/fRFWGXP0JA5NzZVg3KsGxAL4cSs8lu4To/WtcfFl/t/JgCzG0zGSsFgdUHtBkOy IXNAzOAZ34FPW3LC3rilbFnXSQvS1XlfkYVCI= Message-ID: <49CF9A5E.9090705@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:57:18 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looking for a VSTi that reacts to audio References: <66f9cc1e0903231516m78ca511ah51ced52df1374680@mail.gmail.com> <007101c9ac58$0845a010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <007101c9ac58$0845a010$14b2a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Michael Peters schrieb: > I would guess that there are max patches that can do that to some > extent. Probably this is too complex to put into a VST box. You can turn any Max (4) patch into a VST... -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 16:10:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A6EF3BEB2; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MigRV5zzctt3zxHHzZhGY7kYaZpWaL5PMSF0tPvZjvU=; b=l4OcUEAC98XZTsqYhMWPKAiZHrW0Hg5l/ub3CmPdwZa+S8V7WP4NhN15nSpTfhNezm Is/RUMxUMaKoexZhNiauhGaHqsCcpGzi6bX5N9vEZSLYiDA6usjT3qQ4mFk0anWauAZm GkPQlIwZvGzbxaKVnPdAiygH42f6yShvKEjXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aTSKj4zawuo5or740GM9nRqvJQCTwyElVmRFs22GnVzpsb6LDXZrX0s8Unvl6XB2j1 MZiN4eJonDKOmu4FyrGUTuTkb4BXND4ljTg5RE/jtbw3lwd8xrN60z1upijinXhUHsOb hKwbi40s+/falezO+mrDf1NBUij9ceYGOA6Lo= Message-ID: <49CF9D86.4060204@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:10:46 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution References: <49BAE39E.9030104@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49BAE39E.9030104@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <5ySBoD.A.fPB.J25zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > The good news is that we are beginning to see laptops on sale for as > little as $400 (USD) With your aforementioned footpedals and breakout > box this brings the tab up to about $700 (USD)RE scott hansen schrieb: > then when the 1st sampler came out and it had 2 sec of sampling, he > said how amazing it was, and how they really used it, and what a > great tool it was, and how it seemed like a miracle. Are we all getting old...;-) I remember well my first sampler ( Akai S 612, 1 sec) and how amazing this was. I remeber my first computer (64k of memory, 1 MHz, two processors (6502 and z80)) and how amazing this was. To get hands on powerful gear like that today wouldn't require money at all...;-) Jeff Duke schrieb: > Mark, you know what you might be looking for is a Digitech 7.6 sec > Time Machine. This was my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could do miracles at that time... Looping never was a question of gear alone, first you need something to make noise, an old four string guitar for example. Then after you found out that a guitar needs two more strings and how to tune them, and that an acoustic doesn't sound like Jimi you might start to think about gear. You would still find it if your in to it. No matter if you have money or not... As any music making, inspiration and knowledge are the main drawbacks, not money. You can get a laptop of decent power for much less than $400, even for free. But without knowledge you won't be able to do much with it... Once I found a Roland tape echo on the street, without an instrument there wouldn't be much looping either... Someone who is interested to get into looping has already an instrument. Nobody would ever consider buying new gear for a test drive. You get anything cheap on ebay or even better on the flee market or even better better from your neighbours cave... There is no price tag for getting into looping. I would advice anybody to go to the Loopers Delight site and remember all the names of gear, also lurk on the list (requires a computer already) and then look around and just grab it if it flies by. If you are lucky its a time machine (the Digitech, not to go back in time, that's for us grandfather nerds...;-) Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 16:11:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDE3C3BEC2; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P+k09ooVRGhkGH5Rq1r84knnfqeNhiKE5bAU6I7M/gk=; b=T+8gH7irZuvR0DyVljcGHhu0a/uGFYhGfI1noC8/ACBuiXTfmimXGmxumsJSujvCYT arEUqYi4raYbTTCo5+bIt1ndLfkRljoR4TX+tfVAtpRp20UQkZiweXH9/GCF7Gl7JS9i KbAcxznMuQSMwDpBuj8cOA8rVy2m+cQzNquyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ch2BnS/yKcidf/MnR7bp1F/P52/kXQIK7uF3aLJalHQsxmTCXSUacAHylrUlKLAMHd SEEuIiBsSdRh/ItwF0hFpyXLzDeEomPZS1btLNvr2nTIVeMTtmUtLZaHd3c4cC9IpkaJ ewLrVtNz2Xu6R46WwwVp+b351v+gaK4vFxMa0= Message-ID: <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:11:07 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker schrieb: > I purposefully didn't included pedals that are no longer in production > (but we could with their salient going prices-anyone feel like doing > that research?) > but I did include used laptop, reel to reel and cassette solutions. I would purposely include out of production gear, and would include prices someone bought it used (including the year). For newcomers the list price does give an indication how much it could cost on ebay or the flee market... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 16:11:19 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C307C3BECA; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EggjTRfVvHfKAkOmGdb0I7iRL//o36OtdASPs6supZM=; b=hVCGkpGwmNApmkwp3Ic+wf6KyGYg5LLDMJquWb+imY+ak1mY+7fm3mCKDDi2qcyno+ iLSMosfCNARHRlpuOZK4AEUTpixqa40AO9Nq5K7Pq+x4qvH3KzbAmEcO2sMUHLBs0Z9a aXT38MyLR+NEcxpqdP6kqWhbBbjOLkrvD3YGA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=URBMlwPOkF04tOx2BqWGtlWsW7fcGmHUaGey4LJniPpFQ01DUZnz7jPk9UfBnO9ffm WS0Q2Hi/W2yWMePVt4YborOMXTac58ZQeRnZtYMQwYmjkyFvLaHtUAD/Fp48KskfASl5 +8Ce1RVr/pU/BTwcAPT1ypgECGypOW00Z5ors= Message-ID: <49CF9DA5.7090304@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:11:17 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question References: <892287.81441.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <892287.81441.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:11:19 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo schrieb: > Hi gang, i have a mystery tale to share: i mentioned previously that > all of the sudden my RME card wasn not working and soon after that my > Presonus firebox stopped working as well. i remeber conecting and > reconecting my RME between my PC and Mac,then all of the sudden it > stopped working.I sent it to the company and sure enough the FW port > was broken. It might be that the broken RME grilled the two firewire interfaces... You need another computer to test it... Stefan -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- --_____-----------|-----------|-- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()----------TJ Shredder From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 16:34:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA41B3BEBA; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:34:21 -0400 (AST) Subject: Bidule and Mobius question. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:34:20 +0000 (UTC) I had my 2nd Mobius looping session with my new laptop, last night and it was blast. Took me back to my EDP days. I would like to reduce the schlep factor though, so I got bidule. With the bidule setup, I've got to where I can put down a basic loop, but I can't get any overdubs to synch with this. I'm not sure if this a function of latency or do I need to sync bidule and mobius? I've got mobius to work fine on it's own, but I was wondering if I need to change any settings once I'm running it in bidule? Michael(Peters) thanks for the UA 1ex recommendation. Nice and small. Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 16:42:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6624F3BEC0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-id: <49CFA4D2.3080102@soundscapes.us> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:41:54 -0400 From: Bill Fox User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-version: 1.0 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: Galactic Travels Top 20 Report for March, 2009. Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:42:01 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/top20-03mar.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for March, 2009. Shows #622 to #625; 5-March-2009 to 26-March-2009 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox website: http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels The Special Focus for March was Ian Boddy. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2009/focus.html#mar ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =========================================================== Conrad Schnitzler - Rektifikation - Ricochet Dream Craig Padilla, Zero Ohms, and Skip Murphy - Beyond the Portal - Lotuspike Dan Pound - Esoterica - Poundsounds Ian Boddy - Elemental - DiN Ian Boddy - The Final Question - DiNDDL Ian Boddy - The Mechanics of a Thought - DiNDDL Ian Boddy - Three Dreams - DiNDDL Jeffrey Koepper - Radiate - Ricochet Dream Max Corbacho - BreathStream - ad21 Numina - Sound Symbols - none Parallel Worlds - Shade - DiN Phrozenlight - Autumn - none Psicodreamics - Fantasynth - Witches On the Radiowaves Robert Carty - Starlight Vol. 1 - Deep Sky Robert Rich and Faryus - Zerkalo - Faria Ron Boots - Mea Culpa - Groove Sensitive Chaos - Emerging Transparency - Subsequent Shalmaneser - Ticker - Doubtful Palace Steve Roach and Erik Wollo - Stream of Thought - Projekt Syndromeda - The Twilght Connection - Ricochet Dream Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00/ITZ5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 17:07:00 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4E8F3BEC9; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238346420; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Len2cZggtQoVi3gdRG/fuvBva1w=; b=cIv29Ot//PvZvje7bzrSot3m5b92hOqsrbMBAGIR5moxgQhgTknP/r+sjY70OXoQ MbyEzCR7wC4MOQRM582STYs/NevyjZWlK/9AmxE/UJgBA1K1fV7sPg7ocDAEsgM4; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=pt7aw7PMxTkFnVxzL6gA:9 a=CrhR8yl7WPlfyeZVUfDzIURhRpsA:4 a=WN8zLioqDSwA:10 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000801c9b090$c567c060$08cce843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <49BAE39E.9030104@cruzio.com> <49CF9D86.4060204@googlemail.com> Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 13:06:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, thats right! I had two Time Machines and a Didgitech IPS 33B. That with a Craig Anderton book "101 uses for a digital delay". I built some of his projects into a passive volume pedal for cv control; sweeping across ranges and such. If I knew how to make them "tap tempo" I would still use them. Anyone know how to do that? peace, jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution > > Jeff Duke schrieb: >> Mark, you know what you might be looking for is a Digitech 7.6 sec >> Time Machine. > > This was my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could do miracles at > that time... > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 18:05:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 921C73BEB6; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:05:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2pgYjh4pm04tWnJS7IR/CUW5YiD3rLciJ2d3KNVPeF4=; b=xeD+wXmuAQrI45G7iEzUrNeZun6PZOKc695+zjMsObY76vZ0pgXXrlBfaJYeuurj0F wyLBZ6KQORw4PQfMnhfYKLsZb+QCC96DufvUYKRMWSb5j7G7+NguRfWFx1JoYuq5Xbon Bw3tOdt4LzZ5imPXLTpauDOq9l77vleO+CtHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=yEKl7FPVmAWVad+jRYRqDUt5AZ3Gb5jC3RsLxbDlO/IWKw+60Rzx5P2sBxbzENGgyx +pqu3Z7w9vy7lpj//EulFMqH0GpiVZM+ETz9n5CdQcRmFWCvYrml5jGrYzXPKZtYFsWe /evnG2mV7HnXe6rkWd8StMc6AGPkmQdWU9UcA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:05:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032557415e01100c046645d182 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:05:54 +0000 (UTC) --00032557415e01100c046645d182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've stayed out of this one, largely because of outside time constraints, but it's still Sunday morning and I've had my coffee , so ... I'd like to add my vote for the following: 1. Lexicon Vortex. This is the one that got me involve to begin with (THANKS, Andy Butler!). So much so that I own four of them. But that is with a very good reason: It is out of production and it doesn't hurt to have a backup option= . I view of Stefan's request, the going price on Ebay is between $150-$250 ..= . some guy has had one on there for months now, trying to sell it for $350, while a number of ones for less have sold quickly. If you get one, get two sets of pedals, along with an expression pedal and you will have a fun little tool. BE sure and read Andy Butler's comments on the Vortex as they do expelain how to use it as a honest to goodness looper. If you don get a Vortex, I recommend checking the power supply and if it isn't functioning a= t 100%, replace it with a brand new one from Harmon Kardon ... it's worth the premium to have the right one, and they aren't hideously expensive in the U= S (can't say for outside of here, sorry). 2. The Roland DD-20 has already been mentioned and I wholeheartedly agree ... I use two of them in series. I work mainly with the "Delay" side of them, using the maximum 23 second delay most of the time and vary the Feedback and E.Level settings. What's fun is to set them at different delay times (say, one at 23" and the other 14.5") and let the two units battle it out with the same phrase ... these are somewhat underated units and they DO have some creative depth to them that will make you smile. ...and we ARE supposed to be having fun while we do this, right? Best, Dennis On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Rick Walker schrieb: > >> I purposefully didn't included pedals that are no longer in production >> (but we could with their salient going prices-anyone feel like doing tha= t >> research?) >> but I did include used laptop, reel to reel and cassette solutions. >> > > I would purposely include out of production gear, and would include > prices someone bought it used (including the year). For newcomers the > list price does give an indication how much it could cost on ebay or the > flee market... > > Stefan > > -- > Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder > > --=20 http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --00032557415e01100c046645d182 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've stayed out of this one, largely because of outside time constraint= s, but it's still Sunday morning and I've had my coffee , so ...
I'd like to add my vote for the following:

1. Lexicon Vorte= x.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 This is the one that got me involve to begin with (THANK= S, Andy Butler!). So much so that I own four of them. But that is with a ve= ry good reason: It is out of production and it doesn't hurt to have a b= ackup option. I view of Stefan's request, the going price on Ebay is be= tween $150-$250 ... some guy has had one on there for months now, trying to= sell it for $350, while a number of ones for less have sold quickly. If yo= u get one, get two sets of pedals, along with an expression pedal and you w= ill have a fun little tool. BE sure and read Andy Butler's comments on = the Vortex as they do expelain how to use it as a honest to goodness looper= . If you don get a Vortex, I recommend checking the power supply and if it = isn't functioning at 100%, replace it with a brand new one from Harmon = Kardon ... it's worth the premium to have the right one, and they aren&= #39;t hideously expensive in the US (can't say for outside of here, sor= ry).

2. The Roland DD-20 has already been mentioned and I wholeheartedly agr= ee ... I use two of them in series. I work mainly with the "Delay"= ; side of them, using the maximum 23 second delay most of the time and vary= the Feedback and E.Level settings. What's fun is to set them at differ= ent delay times (say, one at 23" and the other 14.5") and let the= two units battle it out with the same phrase ... these are somewhat undera= ted units and they DO have some creative depth to them that will make you s= mile.

...and we ARE supposed to be having fun while we do this, right?
Best,

Dennis



On Sun, Mar = 29, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com> wr= ote:
Rick Walker schri= eb:

I purposefully didn't included pedals that are no longer in production<= br> (but we could with their salient going prices-anyone feel like doing that r= esearch?)
but I did include used laptop, reel to reel and cassette solutions.

I would purposely include out of production gear, and would include
prices someone bought it used (including the year). For newcomers the
list price does give an indication how much it could cost on ebay or the flee market...

Stefan

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--00032557415e01100c046645d182-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 18:18:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA3993BEBE; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:18:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 174013871/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.182.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.182.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkABADdYz0lPTraa/2dsb2JhbAAIxzSDegaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,442,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="174013871" Message-ID: <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:28:16 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bidule and Mobius question. References: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:18:43 +0000 (UTC) André Donawa wrote: > I had my 2nd Mobius looping session with my new laptop, last night and it > was blast. Took me back to my EDP days. I would like to reduce the schlep > factor though, so I got bidule. > > With the bidule setup, I've got to where I can put down a basic loop, but > I can't get any overdubs to synch with this. I'm not sure if this a > function of latency or do I need to sync bidule and mobius? you mean the Overdubs don't match the timing of the loop? That would indicate a latency problem. ..but then you'd notice that the original loop doesn't start on the beat. > > I've got mobius to work fine on it's own, but I was wondering if I need to > change any settings once I'm running it in bidule? shouldn't be any difference, check latency settings in Mobius. You might try changing a Bidule setting EDit>>Preferences>>DSP>>BufferSize. I think that would slow things down if the value was larger than the soundcard buffers....not sure though. > > Michael(Peters) thanks for the UA 1ex recommendation. Nice and small. > > Andre > > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 18:25:30 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D67AB3BEC7; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 89014.92477.bm@omp207.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238351128; bh=uJkJsEHsjUcvWRgdagc6EtvntVfn2cS3V6mov4Mzl2o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ccw54OGZqXT956M4kaU9YbPAuG/XfxvGfCmyodoWMXmvJsrM3u4TlCjKdKxzHl0j/eUz8aF7nfFj/E2Rf3DcyEMv0HSZ5QHFNDmSEuZaruAbOziRIyBy+q0KCH9PiuAT2uSXZcD+IKY6seadyq5a5vyxcfcTqvuBPZdKYX+zfMc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dGYDd2PWpBj9lZ45H6Zb89I9quoxLr/RiOPKPLAgX3ErRCdERkKEapuBywgVpI0cBnpMPBP4k2j5jEY4wn0JXaVzdTRB4d7YpWD8qZjthFBVq5jnHNlvLdPoxFor9xVh7YOU6Ixy/Xi5ZCarv2FjDP5EnzAZW2Noec4eQX7sq90=; Message-ID: <399887.16581.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lh3tpVcVM1nyhTJRHZ4Mj7KTkqcfY.xLT9slvHH6YBVdH8hJM5dnhEa4VjZVkHjIn1n.NfIeT9fFOSyRtPguzEDVzOK8tGbxeyvz6Uf4cKLrmB0HokWs.67i9yULgCsSDke6k6Kgt03A8_BfgdX8kd119NXbw5COU0OvYP3lJHB4Uvr0NOlUpS15V3zKDb1ealnbj4Xt6EkZerUhz5cxImpiblQnxfqY X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <6XWTYD.A.fYF.a07zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:25:30 +0000 (UTC) --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Dennis Moser wrote: > 1. Lexicon Vortex. ... If you get one, get two > sets of pedals, along with an expression pedal and you will > have a fun little tool. Hi Dennis, Why two sets of pedals? Can it be used duplex with each set controlling different functions, or is this for backup? Saw your disc on the table at the Portsmouth RPM party last night! Lots of fun was had! -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 18:40:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E526D3BEAE; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5iLrkG4EJqOmNPnB7R87LXCePd2Now/beDZ26Ls8rjA=; b=JP/DhlblS089qxEAIyf8MVzodAvH4micmintS2283CD2aAUkBaFtsoGvidYAWVSUhn FFtWTalTXdb4oNmvIZ5YawsUYzgqdSJmrlZnCrwg23P6v2AWWM5WH/W/T78eDFxwcqeg +GuHOLYe8UnYPnq5RSACyyfb7plHjEivapIA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=umP/+DLUo0OcdxclA9/Dy/4tbPbbYtmo2BBRr5MqqFkMmswt4bjbtHwwnVmmO2+Bvx mmcbEicstHjxohdkaXPXzUNqVn+3t/+TsyhLbFv+P1pK9ss/DYx1ZTd+T23u/Grqze1q 57sd4AIGutwsw7vwzl5ITw5yX+31/2EMvobfw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:40:44 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <741hDB.A.q0F.sC8zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? I was just working with one this Friday and found it quite good. So I thought that maybe the Loop Station doesn't deserve all the bashing it has has gotten here for not offering feedback. You can still do a lot of fun looping with it; three parallel loops in poly rhythm or three alternative loops cued up, overdub, replace, reverse... And if you turn down the guide track audio output you can just start looping without having to follow a click track - just remember to never touch the tempo button, avoiding the bad time-stretch algorithm to destroy your loop ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 18:47:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98AAB3BEC0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=GaFbVtPfjZC4uF7XKGJi9oOdWDRiRAsWxWlCYqAiWuw=; b=OTAolkHeoYhT4YPHNEcYKkj5Ig8ByFNowHkvsb8uLn08xGDrpLQMXipHcQe76gqWEo R1xr8j9xrT3MF5U4oMZOeOsZqAKOmoZJSOZqy/2ZERjxPmD//EowzWHOe0jboVBFH8Ri mrYjMkLXwZmxKoq+/yctZigviw1O5ygEQkhVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=cPn6Ev+QgmwYm9Pmv7GH2HnvPWTiBq3vSDWc3aakAKEIl0Z8bJJpm6iA95GVQF/p8M kPlaojNfDHL+z3wlJ64KkHjv32ip0mEeFKQw8a9/gAaaw490N8RUcAUCHhllfINvThYk 3lSFeYqtogCJSCSZaK7GY+bdsC90IzpNtb530= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:47:20 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291147j4880cbd4wa5b94ffe62c3dad3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bidule and Mobius question. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:47:21 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:28 PM, andy butler wrote: > You might try changing a Bidule setting > EDit>>Preferences>>DSP>>BufferSize. > I think that would slow things down if the value was larger > than the soundcard buffers....not sure though. Yep, I remember from my Bidule days that Bidule has a buffer setting for the audio interface that you have to make sure it is set to the same as you typed into Mobius. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:04:06 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54E0A3BEC9; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <753DA47AEFE1476F902D8B0702C897BF@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: Subject: Test Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:03:55 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Just a test. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:13:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 481F23BEC0; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Azm2t6p/WHyolxyq2htB/SsTg8I8jjf13qaKGmFQXQo=; b=Udqr9uUqdVk6sELljqWPLvpptHa4CVB3fQO17++aelT9+wNgeNyX2Tlqt7OvC2vWVc GFhSQCTfQu2lIeZcBRFM6tX4HmBEl1GQIj1tLzTUyTvgWbkzHITuVILgGLjTGfmm6Sb1 sRMhJ2Hq3MhefhoLBcnT3Km7GExAmr+9Y8m7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=w4FVphQMh1iN1EMhGHwetoivkIyVScTA0JR+ICb88IkE+LOAJQ9tIzY6zgTT/s2MXj XTiUjoT4fGp8Yu035vYliB/CuAxTP6h6cRqXCN2rTqNrRb5iT9cGC2vJaJLkaAXOrs1z 27UIh8fVufIS5E4Wml57M5Dy/MmBIffMCH6Wk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <753DA47AEFE1476F902D8B0702C897BF@eluk1> References: <753DA47AEFE1476F902D8B0702C897BF@eluk1> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903291213rb6a3c30s70818b3c8cd6a993@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Test From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e50a43841d046646c27b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:13:20 +0000 (UTC) --00151750e50a43841d046646c27b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit of the emergency broadcast system, had this been an actual emergency you would have been instructed where to go... confirmed sorry couldn't resist... On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Goodman wrote: > Just a test. > > --00151750e50a43841d046646c27b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable of the emergency broadcast system, had this been an actual emergency you wo= uld have been instructed where to go... confirmed sorry couldn't resist= ...

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Step= hen Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
Just a test.


--00151750e50a43841d046646c27b-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:17:20 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C11873BEE1; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238354239; bh=dJraOMQDJGkYUPAmhyaR9B+ark1l2h4L/l7qoxAqyrw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sreS64Apo7U9R4qRQeshhqNfCILBIbbox4LGV4psUFz5jhQBGUVLcLuXgpnC8nJq/B0oPJHmRvEAaWWTvia/rAB6Nz6cc41tI9oHB6eA94glRldXGAGFNEJL80m4J1I+qcqCdQDRFkKawL4QXrxpNWvGDtm8dxYbHEvs6I3O9L8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FS2z+U+ONL1eibVSsaxSodPQbY3sKzDh5Q1DXVcGm3Shw4W7qCQdktZ6i/4E52RYMQy0mWDlzrjS/D5MxLbCLWqn3fxels40JlVnhLcRYaKP+eZ4Jg3SfkQ7ESEAHPH3MhBTEC/yQGes15AUJ6HrMdXYINYHeI7EHpHL46VM8hs=; Message-ID: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RbQXeEgVM1mwPGLExRTB9JJQh38seHxC7rm7NrWxvlhifqt65n6iCz4lY8ZxFGemLz_bQQOpysS1_oWO_dg6pA17Nyx3ZENIGsU5ht7o4nDQgOlbpFHcxgqHh09rJcg9osrraEURlj_yBn3BqIyCF4E3aRy37z5U93rwPBzTZEIbF3xgAgJs.W9Y6n70_IukTde24mjYQI35.IeF0zgaGl9SVfbavhbfUUM5QUM- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:17:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:17:20 +0000 (UTC) hey Per, The more i see performances with it the more i realize that it isnt as bad as a lot of people say and is quite suited for the singer songwriter,but one thing that did bother me from the little RC-2 (and i am assuming is the same user interface philosophy with all the RC family) is that feeling of it quantizing you even if u dont want to.In other words can you make really short stuttering loops with it? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Per Boysen wrote: > From: Per Boysen > Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 11:40 AM > Hi, > > Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? I was > just working > with one this Friday and found it quite good. So I thought > that maybe > the Loop Station doesn't deserve all the bashing it has has > gotten > here for not offering feedback. You can still do a lot of > fun looping > with it; three parallel loops in poly rhythm or three > alternative > loops cued up, overdub, replace, reverse... And if you turn > down the > guide track audio output you can just start looping without > having to > follow a click track - just remember to never touch the > tempo button, > avoiding the bad time-stretch algorithm to destroy your > loop ;-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:26:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8EAB3BED6; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:26:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dykEOwQZ03IB31jCqQG0GGpnD2DF0WXFW3qpdDWzY7o=; b=X1N84v5SmaElRw1p6JSagcyMx/FHevaJ6CTXeGeWkhouVAlX9WlrYIYxpho47KZfSJ /w520NOliFAju6dVyYJY0Gkv5yVoWvm0H4KApxL+gf1O/mPyWKoY8uu84U0irBW3P4bY cH6KJHFLSaKpQcq4M4wKI1IUOMj1JWP0c/Lrc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=MW/+XbKZ2S8psLBx9yZ4zyDWQF91GXnYPyVnRDtHU0Wct6LfN/9YMdvvRQ25NA4OoV wdt2+DQ/boLBDq/YUwCpj1uS31IfZQkz6ULf/RGImAc9bMs9mL1NO26ePqzpLfzZhe1X a4DyLwcnYDpFjwc6rKcflLVf4e3L7cTMuu0s8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:26:57 -0400 Message-ID: <9e0440a60903291226j10298ed1o1515a210773df9b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Jim Goodin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4837cfd8460046646f25f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:26:57 +0000 (UTC) --000e0cd4837cfd8460046646f25f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't seen the EHX 2880 which is btwn 3-400 USD. I got mine scratch/dent at 300 USD. Remote pedal which I'm about to buy is another 100USD. Also the single pedal Digitech Delay has a 4 second loop in it, it is @100 USD. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > hey Per, > The more i see performances with it the more i realize that it isnt as bad > as a lot of people say and is quite suited for the singer songwriter,but one > thing that did bother me from the little RC-2 (and i am assuming is the same > user interface philosophy with all the RC family) is that feeling of it > quantizing you even if u dont want to.In other words can you make really > short stuttering loops with it? > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Per Boysen wrote: > > > From: Per Boysen > > Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 11:40 AM > > Hi, > > > > Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? I was > > just working > > with one this Friday and found it quite good. So I thought > > that maybe > > the Loop Station doesn't deserve all the bashing it has has > > gotten > > here for not offering feedback. You can still do a lot of > > fun looping > > with it; three parallel loops in poly rhythm or three > > alternative > > loops cued up, overdub, replace, reverse... And if you turn > > down the > > guide track audio output you can just start looping without > > having to > > follow a click track - just remember to never touch the > > tempo button, > > avoiding the bad time-stretch algorithm to destroy your > > loop ;-) > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se > > www.perboysen.com > > > > > > > > > -- music links... www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro www.myspace.com/jindream www.youtube.com/jimgoodinmusic video work/editing... www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital social networking... www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic --000e0cd4837cfd8460046646f25f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I haven't seen the EHX 2880 which is btwn 3-400 USD. =A0I got mine scra= tch/dent at 300 USD. =A0Remote pedal which I'm about to buy is another = 100USD.

Also the single pedal Digitech Delay has a 4 sec= ond loop in it, it is @100 USD.

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:17 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.= com> wrote:

hey Per,
The more i see performances with it the more i realize that it isnt as bad = as a lot of people say and is quite suited for the singer songwriter,but on= e thing that did bother me from the little RC-2 (and i am assuming is the s= ame user interface philosophy with all the RC family) is that feeling of it= quantizing you even if u dont want to.In other words can you make really s= hort stuttering loops with it?



www.mysp= ace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Per Boysen <= perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Per Boysen <perboysen@= gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Loopin= g Solutions
> To: Loopers-Del= ight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 11:40 AM
> Hi,
>
> Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? I was
> just working
> with one this Friday and found it quite good. So I thought
> that maybe
> the Loop Station doesn't deserve all the bashing it has has
> gotten
> here for not offering feedback. You can still do a lot of
> fun looping
> with it; three parallel loops in poly rhythm or three
> alternative
> loops cued up, overdub, replace, reverse... And if you turn
> down the
> guide track audio output you can just start looping without
> having to
> follow a click track - just remember to never touch the
> tempo button,
> avoiding the bad time-stretch algorithm to destroy your
> loop ;-)
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se > www.perboysen.c= om
>
>







--
music links= ...
www.jimgoodinmusic.com=
www.chinapaintingmusic.co= m
www.myspace.com/jimgoodin= music
www.mysp= ace.com/chinapaintingmusic
www.myspace.com/jimgoodinviolinelectro
www.myspace.com/jindreamwww.youtube.com/jimgoodi= nmusic

video work/editing...
www.vimeo.com/jimgoodindigital

social networking...
www.twitter.com/jimgoodinmusic

--000e0cd4837cfd8460046646f25f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:31:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 181023BEDE; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:31:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238355107; bh=sQ66cgsxSvUHjefeOmc9tcwIvoua32hDadTrRxozagI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GcwYZGGXi3uuyQXRZTJ3iu4MaEuNYh4ye35RMTMKPegY3OPfUdK91vHDtsYyvwRGXU7FIS/RWFfI5aO0HRMiwQvSniXdhzvKBO2uVSwr3et1Er4LEeFvCplyLk6l2VIK6NW5HoimDAm+9NW1EUBmXd/+AxZinPJpE3AmyjtCVY0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=v0eM/4vfOZn+4l8OiJCeMHNmgZ2ex4LQqbk6n73j5LINAzATXKlxx3rsYaj6O9xLrbJIZPpfvzSXMxU3XtHVgb4dwiwBiTPP24JbDtp/LTrUaWvSA1EmuNfl1L7218UEJfxdo81ITAEqCw1AaRWXTy2SQInm6HskMgQHFSEB/vg=; Message-ID: <168231.63069.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Qm4Ec7gVM1kD.JFXcsB7wz_8eDB97Cq25KOTNnGL6uV5MUX_Ka_XlkimyRRkkxwce9H0DvxmVbdHFdsg.HFU1vGqVOIRLKETfBkVCYb6qqM33WSfIdDJ9lNrYxsYsz97YlW4qSmq1HgPYdhl1Xb5AHugOA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 12:31:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:31:47 +0000 (UTC) I still dont know if my firewire PCI card was at fault or not, meanwhile RM= E claims their card is not at fault(although i had to send it once already = for repairs before the warranty was even due)so now they sent it back from = repair and charged me 150.-eur but guess what?it istill didnt work!Now they= are saying their card worked perfectly when they tested it and that it mus= t be my PCI card.Now i had to resend it back but they said if they have to = repair it again is going to cost me just as much or more(gotta love their g= reat fuckin customer service and their friendliness)=0Awhat is puzzling me = is that i conected the RME to my macbook and my macbooks firewire was also = fried which i had to send out for repair(thank god i had the protection pl= an)so i dont know what to think now and how to prove it but i am going nuts= with this crap!=0ALuis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> It might be that the broken R= ME grilled the two firewire=0A> interfaces...=0A> You need another computer= to test it...=0A> =0A> Stefan=0A> =0A> -- Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------= x--=0A> --_____-----------|-----------|--=0A> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()---= ----=0A> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------=0A> ----------()----------TJ Shr= edder=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:33:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48A323BEEE; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=MsgR6X1fU/kix5XVLOguFkovEwUlGT4P/7s0dzQyyAE=; b=IdAmTrKfxwxkera61Cfwk4pZAomb+QoiUtq/3oLUpjxfzfrsWQ4ThKRk/3flpE3P9B XL3f/7dlzR4w6tMPhkJPd9Xe9qeOIO488Rt8+8W5/1zsZVdtuwzheQJM4ztY1GnTVtBw 0wgTUo0aaHoj2jcWQRj/olPbG1mqP0oCjWEgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YAq8fm6yKylZHEyy44JceLPvy/55yoQghHuSRCE4xouAyloMBrK6Z5n46OdBaQS4CY SMhhdyD4vKBha7Lqa+IrU0NZmlX2RS44fJ+cpV5Wsze+20cpG6VSY+Q7OiwCOXr/KwIy m97uLnts0SJx/0FeVdV0BMMwA/6z/Ay9O1UNM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:33:11 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291233g761b1bcdi7f023fefd8e741b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5DCHa.A.jI.4z8zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:33:12 +0000 (UTC) Guess not. I'm no RC-50 specialist and don't aspire becoming one either. But whatever you can do with the RC-50 you can always stutter while you're doing it! And you can use it as the midi foot controller for Mobius on a laptop ;-) Then you will have a Plan B when that Murphy guy wrecks your lappy. per On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:17 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > > hey Per, > The more i see performances with it the more i realize that it isnt as ba= d as a lot of people say and is quite suited for the singer songwriter,but = one thing that did bother me from the little RC-2 (and i am assuming is the= same user interface philosophy with all the RC family) is that feeling of = it quantizing you even if u dont want to.In other words can you make really= short stuttering loops with it? > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Per Boysen wrote: > >> From: Per Boysen >> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 11:40 AM >> Hi, >> >> Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? I was >> just working >> with one this Friday and found it quite good. So I thought >> that maybe >> the Loop Station doesn't deserve all the bashing it has has >> gotten >> here for not offering feedback. You can still do a lot of >> fun looping >> with it; three parallel loops in poly rhythm or three >> alternative >> loops cued up, overdub, replace, reverse... And if you turn >> down the >> guide track audio output you can just start looping without >> having to >> follow a click track - just remember to never touch the >> tempo button, >> avoiding the bad time-stretch algorithm to destroy your >> loop ;-) >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se >> www.perboysen.com >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:44:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E623A3BEEA; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 170579479/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.182.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.182.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkABAC5sz0lPTraa/2dsb2JhbAAIxmmDegaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,442,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="170579479" Message-ID: <49CFD1E0.6070409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:54:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1yUgI.A.Ih.i-8zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:44:34 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? doesn't fit into "least costly" exactly ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:47:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B9843BEF5; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 174588432/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.182.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.182.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkABAIptz0lPTraa/2dsb2JhbAAIxmqCLAqBRAaHOg0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,442,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="174588432" Message-ID: <49CFD289.4000905@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:56:57 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question References: <168231.63069.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <168231.63069.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:47:26 +0000 (UTC) could be the fault is in the cable. L.Angulo wrote: > I still dont know if my firewire PCI card was at fault or not, meanwhile RME claims their card is not at fault(although i had to send it once already for repairs before the warranty was even due)so now they sent it back from repair and charged me 150.-eur but guess what?it istill didnt work!Now they are saying their card worked perfectly when they tested it and that it must be my PCI card.Now i had to resend it back but they said if they have to repair it again is going to cost me just as much or more(gotta love their great fuckin customer service and their friendliness) > what is puzzling me is that i conected the RME to my macbook and my macbooks firewire was also fried which i had to send out for repair(thank god i had the protection plan)so i dont know what to think now and how to prove it but i am going nuts with this crap! > Luis > > > > > > >> It might be that the broken RME grilled the two firewire >> interfaces... >> You need another computer to test it... >> >> Stefan >> >> -- Les Ondes Mémorielles---------x-- >> --_____-----------|-----------|-- >> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- >> -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- >> ----------()----------TJ Shredder >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 19:59:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30B133BEE2; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=e6jt5CAWTlEpvHNe3t/o2VuPvAG8kGHAxKFyIehY/qs=; b=ChQAdJdP1wnsStCck5ziSfiszv3EPrdNaekgW/qUFs6SpyheUk37PC8Wd9oAGSWpuP c9dK/RsuuxPDlX8KsGXKmcAJmdjeHrsGMcYfmctEUyjlDTrZp5xWrLr6HMmgHRKeeaJz EBoTL25/DwR0fAAryu5ioBraPtS+2DAblZzFU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jcka2lgpfHIjdvQ19ewJcKiKmhmK7PaxzlNRIp11fSvP6Y4qcJAb53g3j0HRfVrgXx itDj2lCQGfouyofLFUmwQLOCzoldyq6nHQmRJKsRgovNHjVSb9Y5EwgZxvdMShL+oQZh 9UQD6Gs8EmA1ViYIrVk+WQLAHczDnha7CDmV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CFD1E0.6070409@tiscali.co.uk> References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD1E0.6070409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:59:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291259x1278e9f3v4440d873b14e1307@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4VAaRD.A.PDB.3M9zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Ok, I apologize for my post. I just Googled the price for an RC-50 and it was four time more expensive than I believed it should be! I once borrowed two reel to reel tape recorders and they made a totally free looper. No much slicing and stuttering unless you take a time out with the scissors and tape though. Per On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:54 PM, andy butler wrote: > > > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Probably someone has already mentioned the RC-50? > > doesn't fit into "least costly" exactly ;-) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 20:05:24 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA52D3BEF8; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CFD477.5000907@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:05:11 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD1E0.6070409@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903291259x1278e9f3v4440d873b14e1307@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903291259x1278e9f3v4440d873b14e1307@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:05:24 +0000 (UTC) Punching in w/a pedal or quick button presses allows some very nice stuttering on tape. Obviously it doesn't shorten the loop, but you can drop in quick fragments of audio (or silence) with interesting results. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I once borrowed two reel to reel tape recorders and they made a > totally free looper. No much slicing and stuttering unless you take a > time out with the scissors and tape though. > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 20:08:04 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3CA83BEF6; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=vtgfNdpPV1v0vOZPli9EiOIzidnCQb0gPTgisZthAkQ=; b=rCbIkPVHk9RzzVS03WGsHpcRKptUHW6W+RqrYtml8WQ2VRud1871+POoLVyXaiUloa GyDJJdhVtT4fK/WH45TOXz/uMhYB7S0tD923FJ6iadsJ/hk60gpzW/FAUj7Kzqfwnw4Y l5AQzqNVyWH6SCw14r1w1+ZdgO+VkIH2aMqkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=rEKlcHkakfHUbg8qBlOksDcXbcOpn2yVjzff4nSc4rugumKfehjBVjDOXVGcI6YsOm L9D52MhAQY8D9mU1dD2iVf34B4HEKRgMUdVl4qtaSKaZTvxzwHbPUyQ4lV2m3uIa2FP0 wNwhyAcDte22wnVCuBW+TePiyykeaEzpxz4dk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CFD477.5000907@mhorse.com> References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD1E0.6070409@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903291259x1278e9f3v4440d873b14e1307@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD477.5000907@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:08:03 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291308y69f9a0b8qf14762edef26a95c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Ah, you're right. You should know, being the tape specialist! The vari-speed on that machine of yours is truly awesome! per On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Punching in w/a pedal or quick button presses allows some very nice > stuttering on tape. Obviously it doesn't shorten the loop, but you can drop > in quick fragments of audio (or silence) with interesting results. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> I once borrowed two reel to reel tape recorders and they made a >> totally free looper. No much slicing and stuttering unless you take a >> time out with the scissors and tape though. >> >> Per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 20:19:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B081B3BF02; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <23254.72.22.1238357975.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> References: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:19:35 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Bidule and Mobius question. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <91eHm.A.90B.Vf9zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, I can do all my overdubs and reverses etc. when using mobius as a standalone version. Some of my tunes are fairly polyrhthmic so even though the diffrence in timing is fairly small when I'm using mobius with bidule the overdub is noticebly late, and throws off the feel. Hi Per, I'm not sure where to set the buffer size in mobius. Would that be the drift resync frames under global parameters? Thanks, Andre On Sun, March 29, 2009 2:28 pm, andy butler wrote: > > > André Donawa wrote: >> I had my 2nd Mobius looping session with my new laptop, last night and >> it >> was blast. Took me back to my EDP days. I would like to reduce the >> schlep >> factor though, so I got bidule. >> >> With the bidule setup, I've got to where I can put down a basic loop, >> but >> I can't get any overdubs to synch with this. I'm not sure if this a >> function of latency or do I need to sync bidule and mobius? > > > you mean the Overdubs don't match the timing of the loop? > > That would indicate a latency problem. > > ..but then you'd notice that the original loop doesn't start on the beat. > > >> >> I've got mobius to work fine on it's own, but I was wondering if I need >> to >> change any settings once I'm running it in bidule? > > shouldn't be any difference, check latency settings in Mobius. > > You might try changing a Bidule setting > EDit>>Preferences>>DSP>>BufferSize. > I think that would slow things down if the value was larger > than the soundcard buffers....not sure though. > > > > > >> >> Michael(Peters) thanks for the UA 1ex recommendation. Nice and small. >> >> Andre >> >> >> http://www.andredonawa.com >> http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa >> http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa >> >> > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 20:30:21 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 434793BF0D; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49CFD711.2020204@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:16:17 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD1E0.6070409@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903291259x1278e9f3v4440d873b14e1307@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD477.5000907@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0903291308y69f9a0b8qf14762edef26a95c@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903291308y69f9a0b8qf14762edef26a95c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:30:21 +0000 (UTC) hehe...you are kind Per, varispeed is my favorite trick and I love the stutters too. I've actually gone through a lot of punch-in pedals to find the one with the quickest release so I can do mad stuttering, and finally found the old DOD 220 works really well. I've bought three of 'em. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Ah, you're right. You should know, being the tape specialist! The > vari-speed on that machine of yours is truly awesome! > > per > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:05 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> Punching in w/a pedal or quick button presses allows some very nice >> stuttering on tape. Obviously it doesn't shorten the loop, but you can drop >> in quick fragments of audio (or silence) with interesting results. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 20:38:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B192D3BF12; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 174067290/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.182.154/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.182.154 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkABAAZ5z0lPTraa/2dsb2JhbAAIxn6DegaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,442,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="174067290" Message-ID: <49CFDE8D.5080804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:48:13 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bidule and Mobius question. References: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> <23254.72.22.1238357975.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <23254.72.22.1238357975.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:38:39 +0000 (UTC) André Donawa wrote: > Hi Andy, > > I can do all my overdubs and reverses etc. when using mobius as a > standalone version. > Some of my tunes are fairly polyrhthmic so even though the diffrence in > timing is fairly small when I'm using mobius with bidule the overdub is > noticebly late, and throws off the feel. > > Hi Per, I'm not sure where to set the buffer size in mobius. this one:- >> You might try changing a Bidule setting >> EDit>>Preferences>>DSP>>BufferSize. >> I think that would slow things down if the value was larger >> than the soundcard buffers....not sure though. >> >> It's certainly a latency issue. So make sure Mobius latency compensation is right. And Per confirms that the Buffersize in Bidule needs to match your soundcard. (and I'm sure you already set your soundcard buffer as small as possible) good luck andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 20:39:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F9823BF1C; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:39:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ghEH7IWOG/bj1x9GNbOBim6sOxuXBeQJgKZJEtjalSs=; b=AMl17VMzLoKw2Wi0CzPW/MVQv9CLS4ltGYHpzH/guSQXnBabTuWzXNp728HzFDyoJw xfte4K8a2zleeqrqh76391cQgSh4DuLWhu+UvueArn3eyKtvuuKEy622J85Wf3kCrIAB SbuPFOYNavDekn95QseY4ABME9TTbAl9k9PNQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WPXm41citrgWJXsUbNOFCEoEd9FjWMwzYu1ePRbO+GGyWYmVWg2YQESlGY7f8nWb58 iSccThsz7ZU5VyasFlbaLE9GorGk5RNClFhFpoP2FEwvd3uYQ6qBxE2z/G3kAquEbw6J TbKSeXLminKlPpjWPscVC1fhkYyBvhHVS1NzY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <23254.72.22.1238357975.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> <23254.72.22.1238357975.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:39:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291339v4142cf8am5dfb13db9590a65d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bidule and Mobius question. From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:39:51 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Andr=E9 Donawa wr= ote: > Hi Per, I'm not sure where to set the buffer size in mobius. > Would that be the drift resync frames under global parameters? No, rather the Latency Compensation settings at "Configuration/Audio Device Selection". I know the terminology is a bit confusing but as I understand it you can pretty much equal "a frame" to a millisecond. However, I made those settings by ear to be on the safe side. With the correct settings you should be able to record some rhythmic stuff and then play rhythmically to it and have you playing return overdubbed at the same timing as you did play it in the first place. I spent hours with this and found that the timing is not rock solid - you always hear a difference in the loop when it comes back. It's not as accurate as a DAW or a tape recorder but good enough for looping ;-)) It wouldn't be possible to make a sample accurate looper because the overdubbing and layering needs some free wheeling to work its magic. Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 20:47:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DD8E3BF15; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ll8A8Fzo51EJJiXZIZ+W6J358b5CD52S707fcZOxOAU=; b=jXYFY11Tx1Vqj/WXGaIOgHcU96FjGPJu2Cm4bo4aurhCKowwlpNTbUIS8kF5PrQ85Y jVWpX+k1pIKSocJiwh9bmmbB9DFH+ybYm86xXSabag36QL+wY9sfHypbKIrTvI9hIcDW DMe3JHCPUi9jJjWW4Log0AcZG+Qwjkaosw8HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UpaLf1oU9hw1wTwPCU34YLj+G9x7sHaOlalzggi4+ubTedPNl/RjG0eibvA8XT3ld9 Ukjn3R1DHZqc8bQDuuesMgI/w5IhhQ5X4BDHrw80kjm76vwmdxtDMoHb32HryAeomokj ehg83Wh9ve6HMeL5ocD6JMggi5QPVi1M45xTM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49CFD711.2020204@mhorse.com> References: <49BED3A3.2040506@cruzio.com> <49CF9D9B.5010208@googlemail.com> <66f9cc1e0903291140t4136ef79r68c6442385c92e2c@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD1E0.6070409@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0903291259x1278e9f3v4440d873b14e1307@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD477.5000907@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0903291308y69f9a0b8qf14762edef26a95c@mail.gmail.com> <49CFD711.2020204@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:47:50 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291347n6edcbbdcq1d2757aa13dee664@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:47:51 +0000 (UTC) LOL, exchanging the gold of your deep pockets with DODs! Way to go mad loopist! ;-)) Tape-ish artifacts are indeed lovely! These days I'm all up for throwing software tape sim plug-ins PRE looper to stack swarms of glitch noise in my laptop loops. per On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > so I can do mad stuttering, and finally found the old DOD 220 works really > well. I've bought three of 'em. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 21:05:14 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DA723BF07; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: Mainstage and midi channels Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:05:00 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c9b0b2$06b0b100$050313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcmwsefMXQdhXU6USHeuMpK0zv4trw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: <_dOvsD.A.ThD.KK-zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've been testing with Mainstage and discovered that it seems to respond = to midi messages no mather what channel you specify. For example, if you = send program change on channel 5 from your MFC, Mainstage reacts even if you = have assigned channel 1 to your instrument. I checked the manual and internet forums but I can't find a way to filter midi channels in Mainstage. Does anyone know a workaround, some filter program on OSX level?=20 ---=20 Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/=20 http://euroloopfest.com/=20 http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 21:10:58 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 721B43BF11; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=nnItS08ZzX+lbNHocbh0eG9N0k2iXFg+5R/xPRXbktM=; b=CwXL/j/n+wWoALnzFt7fBin7b7fAaJgOLkW/kUBKbqudKJKRtO0mzVqxjqi49UUap9 TqCo+vggfPU9WgTjKuZrq0W6w0Qhjdo2LUzTjG3l29SUgfVKmyAEBcjLtxbo0FGjyTQJ rZNyOSWmB1Kw0vXPxTvUQy3aD/hfqCEs1B4/8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kH7YVse/YEw8e/jznSYDCOFTp8bO2cJrJLf/XODpEtCMhyWBx8nLN5+uHtzxrhNBj3 l2eyqd//+yhZ2e5cpShu0zHcRuVGTK59sfGirOPJmB2utF6YWn54P3D4ZnGXkCy5H0lK 2Q3ElDLnLnxXatHrCVa6dxmVr1BC28rG6Mvsw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000001c9b0b2$06b0b100$050313ac@PIPO> References: <000001c9b0b2$06b0b100$050313ac@PIPO> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:10:57 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291410j2099cf32rcab4a4b4b258ddd0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage and midi channels From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3lLyaB.A._vD.iP-zJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:10:58 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Sjaak wrote: > I've been testing with Mainstage and discovered that it seems to respond to > midi messages no mather what channel you specify. For example, if you send > program change on channel 5 from your MFC, Mainstage reacts even if you have > assigned channel 1 to your instrument. I checked the manual and internet > forums but I can't find a way to filter midi channels in Mainstage. Does > anyone know a workaround, some filter program on OSX level? Hi, Maybe you can assign a MIDI channel to the Keyboard Object? Generally MainStage doesn't react to external MIDI at all unless you assign it to a Screen Control Object. The exception from this rule being the the Keyboard Object because it is the base for virtual instruments. I just closed my MS lappy so I can't check out for now. You query makes me curious so I'll look tomorrow. If I remember to ;-)) Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 21:20:34 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD34A3BF1B; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Mainstage and midi channels Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:20:20 +0200 Message-ID: <000101c9b0b4$2ac3b2c0$050313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acmwst1JaLkwj16+T0S0ficscZIHmAAADWgg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903291410j2099cf32rcab4a4b4b258ddd0@mail.gmail.com> X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:20:34 +0000 (UTC) > From: Per Boysen=20 > Maybe you can assign a MIDI channel to the Keyboard Object?=20 > Generally MainStage doesn't react to external MIDI at all=20 > unless you assign it to a Screen Control Object. The=20 > exception from this rule being the the Keyboard Object=20 > because it is the base for virtual instruments. I idea I had in mind was to control both my LP1 and AU-plugins = parameters within MS from a single MFC. I assigned channel 1 to all my MS = instruments, the LP1 is using channel 5. The problem is that both LP1 and MS react on program changes, midi CC messages if I use channel 5. For example, if I = send a Midi CC 1 (=3D sync rec/dub on the LP1), MS interprets that as a = modulation control......... > I just closed my MS lappy so I can't check out for now. You=20 > query makes me curious so I'll look tomorrow. If I remember to ;-)) Thanks Per! I may send you a reminder tomorrow ;) Sjaak From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 21:27:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C513BF21; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Wss8+anAi5zOwrCuT2BxfeDiAoeJGwD1OH40ZqCMdxU=; b=Xavo+xsdtjlOGem/XkAbEKkjPxFjiZVPqUGnuzL0fTyuccWO/8vYMNU52S5EaIup3J HSA9IEJTIkTQWb2wE2VYROgd5da52096QoK92g+tPIMq/3x197SQ11bULcGXzgldImqu Bu3rNwMjvW6heJ+qrmJT2TqS1fszH0zM3ohI8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iRmDHh1B8QeAVuqI1H2V0jU6tuelIJCcNJEDlPMqpT6ylQGo1DE3m8beSGXE+u+o+W AFYKB7WG2bzYY29ypEmQ7MWB/kXKyQaDEeVgrzzkYoVM9wdXbO03V28/V2UCfXwyrJOU g+wF4xwb/ft8feVxGRKVv03L0uX38f5LnIu/o= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000101c9b0b4$2ac3b2c0$050313ac@PIPO> References: <66f9cc1e0903291410j2099cf32rcab4a4b4b258ddd0@mail.gmail.com> <000101c9b0b4$2ac3b2c0$050313ac@PIPO> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:27:02 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903291427o72bd8021n85f7d5b0aeeaccc9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage and midi channels From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:27:03 +0000 (UTC) The fact that Maintage can not be set to send out MIDI to external gear is something that has upset many. Especially since Emagic's now discontinued software SoundDiver really excelled in that department. http://emusician.com/editing/emusic_emagic_sounddiver_macwin/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:20 PM, Sjaak wrote: >> From: Per Boysen >> Maybe you can assign a MIDI channel to the Keyboard Object? >> Generally MainStage doesn't react to external MIDI at all >> unless you assign it to a Screen Control Object. The >> exception from this rule being the the Keyboard Object >> because it is the base for virtual instruments. > > I idea I had in mind was to control both my LP1 and AU-plugins parameters > within MS from a single MFC. I assigned channel 1 to all my MS instruments, > the LP1 is using channel 5. The problem is that both LP1 and MS react on > program changes, midi CC messages if I use channel 5. For example, if I send > a Midi CC 1 (= sync rec/dub on the LP1), MS interprets that as a modulation > control......... > >> I just closed my MS lappy so I can't check out for now. You >> query makes me curious so I'll look tomorrow. If I remember to ;-)) > > Thanks Per! I may send you a reminder tomorrow ;) > > Sjaak > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 21:56:37 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D2A43BF22; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000701c9b0b9$47c1c790$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> From: "Stephen Moyes" To: References: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60903291226j10298ed1o1515a210773df9b8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Electric Mandolin Slicer Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:56:57 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Any electric mandolin players here will want one of these. (I hope the link works) http://tiny.cc/o6bcZ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 22:09:12 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64DE03BF23; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:09:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=3IKu2lbuuTDYidd4ALn5yRoBD33uabzScf+v+UlbDOOdSZ5HCHOr+C4IocFtm+hArV23C5kjLb03s5ew6TW9YjT72Z/tfozeR7wusCSyjr9Ft0NPpgAcZLqHtsO2TXfsZWFRaP/JOly95mAreOiaR5UhPsP/2v6xKDLgcF3gG9o= ; X-YMail-OSG: NP34bwsVM1n1RdW41ZBdywSE63GOsScNRNs6TTcal02zUGxAb1k4QBpGlGsaq1qpAJa9mlhXMII9uqdnZycdr4op0AQd5Ta3OAndziP_IjWNPn0TLpwuFULbFVQLzM9g_XcwD7YE8HI1OOGL1MnU0v4B_L4Mncj562tLFVfQDFlCusSiTn034gAxcvqV3UNXKWzS7gqXHSMpMo9KxXfrX..zPHrCHmRVwfkI X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: Looping and Ambisonics Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:09:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006C_01C9B0C3.58EE66E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:09:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C9B0C3.58EE66E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Folks, Myself and a colleague are working on a project that we will be taking = to STEIM tomorrow that looks at diffusing live improvised guitar music, = ambisonically. I used this as an opportunity to do some looping.=20 I've uploaded some of the first improvised sketches that we performed in = January to www.myspace.com/signalsundertests . I'm sure you can = appreciate that this is a very limited representation of a multi-speaker = performance but you can certainly feel the trajectories of each signal. = It's decoded from B-Format to X-Y stereo for anyone who is interested. I'd very much appreciate your feedback.=20 Cheers, Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C9B0C3.58EE66E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Folks,
 
Myself and a colleague are working on a = project=20 that we will be taking to STEIM tomorrow that looks at diffusing live = improvised=20 guitar music, ambisonically. I used this as an opportunity to do = some=20 looping.
 
I've uploaded some of the first = improvised sketches=20 that we performed in January to www.myspace.com/signals= undertests . I'm=20 sure you can appreciate that this is a very limited representation = of a=20 multi-speaker performance but you can certainly feel = the trajectories=20 of each signal. It's decoded from B-Format to X-Y stereo for anyone who = is=20 interested.
 
I'd very much appreciate your feedback. =
 
Cheers,
 
Ricky
------=_NextPart_000_006C_01C9B0C3.58EE66E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 22:09:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 103BD3BF1E; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <24284.72.22.1238364593.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903291339v4142cf8am5dfb13db9590a65d@mail.gmail.com> References: <24712.72.22.1238344461.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <49CFBDC0.6030400@tiscali.co.uk> <23254.72.22.1238357975.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0903291339v4142cf8am5dfb13db9590a65d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:09:53 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Bidule and Mobius question. From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Got it. This was the one. Thanks Guys, and now I'm onto my quest for some spacey plugs. Andre On Sun, March 29, 2009 4:39 pm, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:19 PM, André Donawa > wrote: >> Hi Per, I'm not sure where to set the buffer size in mobius. >> Would that be the drift resync frames under global parameters? > > No, rather the Latency Compensation settings at "Configuration/Audio > Device Selection". I know the terminology is a bit confusing but as I > understand it you can pretty much equal "a frame" to a millisecond. > However, I made those settings by ear to be on the safe side. With the > correct settings you should be able to record some rhythmic stuff and > then play rhythmically to it and have you playing return overdubbed at > the same timing as you did play it in the first place. I spent hours > with this and found that the timing is not rock solid - you always > hear a difference in the loop when it comes back. It's not as accurate > as a DAW or a tape recorder but good enough for looping ;-)) It > wouldn't be possible to make a sample accurate looper because the > overdubbing and layering needs some free wheeling to work its magic. > > Per > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 22:14:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23DA03BF32; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <24347.72.22.1238364855.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:14:15 -0400 (AST) Subject: Spacey Plugins (vst) for Bass and Guitar From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Anyone have any recommendations? Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 22:43:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9AE03BF0F; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.26.134] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: Edge of the Fringe - New CD Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:43:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_08FB_01C9B08D.846E2CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Mar 2009 22:43:44.0085 (UTC) FILETIME=[D08C0850:01C9B0BF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:43:44 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_08FB_01C9B08D.846E2CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I provided the wrong URL for streaming. It streams only one file. This = is the correct one: http://www.box.net/index.php?rm=3Dbox_v2_mp3_player_shared&node=3Df_23038= 0256&multiple_file=3D1 Kris I am now streaming the MP3s of one of my upcoming CDs. I really = enjoyed making this CD. It is totally different than the last two that = Robert and I did...less aggressive and primal, more thoughtful, out = there, and deep. Edge of the Fringe, by Kribophoric (Krispen Hartung & Robert Sterling) http://www.krispenhartung.com/Edge-of-the-Fringe/index.html Electro-acoustic, creative avant-garde Will release in April Streaming URL: = http://www.box.net/index.php?rm=3Dbox_v2_mp3_player_shared&node=3Df_23038= 0256&single_file=3D1 Song List 1. Confessions of a Ball Peen Hammer 2. Mad and Frenzied Upon the Deep 3. Bi-Polar Fissures 4. Pesky Peculiarities 5. Malicious Ascent 6. Dali in Space 7. Mechanical Underworld 8. Edge of the Fringe 9. Between Two Voids Looping notes: I am using my max-msp random looping patch on most of = the material, but occasionally manually control record and playback. Edge of the Fringe is the third project born out of a dynamic and = creative musical collaboration between Krispen Hartung (Boise, ID, USA) = and Robert Sterling (Ventura, CA, USA). "Edge of the Fringe" is an = introspective, thought and mood provoking collection of improvised = compositions that truly push the boundaries of what can be done in a = virtually collaborative recording context. For more information on = Kribophoric and their prior two CD productions, visit = www.kribophoric.com Krispen Hartung - Mini archtop guitar, laptop computer, Max/MSP, = Reaktor, voice=20 Robert Sterling - Electronic and acoustic percussion, voice=20 ------=_NextPart_000_08FB_01C9B08D.846E2CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I provided the wrong URL for streaming. = It streams=20 only one file. This is the correct one:
 
http://www.box.net/index.php?rm=3D= box_v2_mp3_player_shared&node=3Df_230380256&multiple_file=3D1=
 
Kris
 
 

I am now streaming the MP3s of one of = my upcoming=20 CDs. I really enjoyed making this CD. It is totally different than the = last=20 two that Robert and I did...less aggressive and primal, more = thoughtful, out=20 there, and deep.
 
Edge of the Fringe, = by=20 Kribophoric (Krispen Hartung & Robert Sterling)
http= ://www.krispenhartung.com/Edge-of-the-Fringe/index.ht= ml
Electro-acoustic, creative=20 avant-garde
Will release in April
 
Streaming URL: = http://www.box.net/index.php?rm=3Dbox_v2_mp3_play= er_shared&node=3Df_230380256&single_file=3D1=
Song = List

1. Confessions=20 of a Ball Peen Hammer
2. Mad and Frenzied Upon the Deep
3. = Bi-Polar=20 Fissures
4. Pesky Peculiarities
5. Malicious Ascent
6. Dali = in=20 Space
7. Mechanical Underworld
8. Edge of the Fringe
9. = Between Two=20 Voids
 
Looping notes: I am = using my=20 max-msp random looping patch on most of the material, but occasionally = manually control record and playback.

Edge of = the=20 Fringe is the third project born out of a dynamic and = creative=20 musical collaboration between Krispen Hartung (Boise, ID, USA) and = Robert=20 Sterling (Ventura, CA, USA). "Edge of the Fringe" is an introspective, = thought=20 and mood provoking collection of improvised compositions that truly = push the=20 boundaries of what can be done in a virtually collaborative recording = context.=20 For more information on Kribophoric and their prior two CD = productions, visit=20 www.kribophoric.com

Krispen Hartung - Mini archtop = guitar,=20 laptop computer, Max/MSP, Reaktor, voice
Robert Sterling - = Electronic and=20 acoustic percussion, voice=20

------=_NextPart_000_08FB_01C9B08D.846E2CA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 29 23:14:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E31543BF19; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ThdQwvWNK+1cHh5VBSmNoFbsNcT5bDMpKtOkmSLf2JI=; b=d2NUPFIFyT7x8lgZxzXP209LYlwACrSu35YCSodW+z7WuzL6Tp0z17uqm/wl2GWW+N THCbevHdrifwAAW9gsH9mC0zsl38ReJseFTz2ywUL9iaMm/W0jYoXiQp0IMUU5kLzrFl dcoqUvSIE8loxSenFj+DRCb/XP6TKSIKP2ZGg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=kacUwFGHAwxtTPTID83Bba0BruFS3A46HGEybR1y1VCURlN9vnRGrApMoBSUt4P7xX 4WG+Wwefvhdu/LdAG4oHCjMowpO6RgOrfKj3uaVdyj0o5iOqeGe39nLbMlmdRUE92Lid E/kOfJbQWW57cP9j/9FE7B2jIykGFUhaslmRU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903260619g7471263ej2aac5e5b31d5e7e9@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0903260619g7471263ej2aac5e5b31d5e7e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 16:14:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: loop-friendly venues From: Matt Davignon To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:14:03 +0000 (UTC) I think in order for this tool to get really useful, we'll need to be able to enter more specific genre information than "Safe" or "dangerous". I'd favor either a free-text box, or checkboxes for well-known genres. Besides, only people who read your original LD posting are going to know what "Safe" and "dangerous" represent. You deleted the website I put for "Luggage Store" on your spreadsheet, even though my description says "Refer to the website for booking info". This list is a great help - thank you. mark francombe was all: > Thanks Matt... any venues you DO know, I hope you will add too... I mean, if > you got a gig there, then they are probably pretty open to new cool stuff I > think... at least under my "Dangerous" categorization... > > To everyone else.... COME ON!!! Im surprised by the lack of interest to add > to my list here!!! I think I want to make a suggestion, that EVERYONE should > try to add at least one venue to my list... > > I have also included a link to the current status of the list, Hopefully > viewing the results will make it more interesting. > Im thinking about all the threads over the years that concern places to > play. Nowadays, bands are touring less, and I think there are alot more > venues open to accepting left field works... It OUR time now... Lets get on > the road, and LOOP!!! > > The Looping Friendly Venue Tool. > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 02:53:07 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 584FA3BE84; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238381586; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=oNrFWpwALPAQIuI1RzcgfaLhgkw=; b=fQSwi1jqQDmR0QWaIgSTJFaLPemLuTLeao7+ueoKdBPJF1thqSv1YotrD47q3Ny3 yllibflafH9vig+apDuRxKv4oR22Tr2yR7qG7lAO9tEJSGm4V3Zs/QBjQs8poZv5; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=a5Gf7U6LAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=x2EpokHWAAAA:20 a=162T3rvK3-IV5KBTjU8A:9 a=ocvE6CYpSKm0_itVDFrnSPgBxiQA:4 a=yQcR2aroB8gA:10 a=yHIqe9kG5mgA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c9b0e2$a60f0730$c8c7e843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60903291226j10298ed1o1515a210773df9b8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c9b0b9$47c1c790$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Subject: Re: Electric Mandolin Slicer Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:53:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:53:07 +0000 (UTC) what the! hehe, funny, took a sec. j ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Moyes" To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: Electric Mandolin Slicer > Any electric mandolin players here will want one of these. (I hope the > link works) > > http://tiny.cc/o6bcZ > > From web7@forbin.com Mon Mar 30 03:36:44 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4562 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:36:44 UTC Received: from antiseptic.forbin.com (antiseptic.forbin.com [204.71.100.243]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3562F3BE7E for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:36:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: web7@forbin.com X-Envelope-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Received: From web7.forbin.com (204.71.100.222) by antiseptic.forbin.com (MAILFOUNDRY) id W3SfVBzREd6uXAAw for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:20:37 -0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:19:50 -0600 Subject: With Due Respect To: looparc@loopers-delight.com From: Mr. Philip Morgan Reply-To: phimorgan00@sify.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20090330033644.3562F3BE7E@arsenic.violacea.com> Good Day, I am Mr. Philip Morgan, staff of Kleinwort Benson. I am contacting you concerning a deceased customer and an investment he placed under our banks management three years ago. I am contacting you independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this communication. I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you. In the year 2005, the subject matter; came to our bank to engage in business discussions with our private banking division. He informed us that he had a financial portfolio of Twelve Million United States Dollars, which he wished to have us turn over (invest) on his behalf. In mid 2006, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in Helsinki- Finland. He directed that I liquidate the funds and deposit it with a security firm. I informed him that my Bank would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process. Cash movement across boarders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate and made the funds available to the security firm. I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited with the security firm. The Security Firm is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with instructions, the money was deposited with the security firm. The deceased told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. This was the last communication we had, this transpired around 24th of November 2006. In June last year, we got a call from the security firm informing us about the inactivity of that particular portfolio. I made futile efforts to locate the deceased. I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of Kleinwort Benson. Four days later, information started to trickle in, apparently our client was dead. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Cannes , in Southern part of France . We were soon enough to identify the body and cause of death was confirmed. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This investigation has for the past months been unfruitful; we’ve used our private investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is this investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as a possible relative of the deceased. What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those that occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose. There is Six Million dollars deposited in a security firm, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as my Bank is concerned. My proposal: I now seek your permission to present you as a next of kin to the deceased, as all documentations will be carefully worked to make you the beneficiary to the funds $12,000 000 (Twelve Million United States Dollar); I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct The security Firm to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the proceeds 50/50.I would have gone ahead to ask that the funds be released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in claiming the deposit. We can fine-tune this based on our interactions. I am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you do not be vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do not want you contacting me through my official phone lines nor do I want you contacting me through my official email account. Contact me only through the numbers I will provide for you and also through this email address. I do not want any direct link between you and myself. My official lines are not secured lines as they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in line with our Total Quality Management Policy. Please observe this instruction religiously. Do not betray my confidence. Kindly send your response to my private email: phimorgan00@sify.com I await your response. Mr. Philip Morgan From web7@forbin.com Mon Mar 30 03:36:45 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4560 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:36:44 UTC Received: from antiseptic.forbin.com (antiseptic.forbin.com [204.71.100.243]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CA03BE7E for ; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 03:36:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-From: web7@forbin.com X-Envelope-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Received: From web7.forbin.com (204.71.100.222) by antiseptic.forbin.com (MAILFOUNDRY) id XQRRDBzREd6XRQAw for looparc@loopersdelight.com; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:20:40 -0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:19:53 -0600 Subject: With Due Respect To: looparc@loopersdelight.com From: Mr. Philip Morgan Reply-To: phimorgan00@sify.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20090330033644.F3CA03BE7E@arsenic.violacea.com> Good Day, I am Mr. Philip Morgan, staff of Kleinwort Benson. I am contacting you concerning a deceased customer and an investment he placed under our banks management three years ago. I am contacting you independently of our investigation and no one is informed of this communication. I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you. In the year 2005, the subject matter; came to our bank to engage in business discussions with our private banking division. He informed us that he had a financial portfolio of Twelve Million United States Dollars, which he wished to have us turn over (invest) on his behalf. In mid 2006, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to make an urgent investment requiring cash payments in Helsinki- Finland. He directed that I liquidate the funds and deposit it with a security firm. I informed him that my Bank would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process. Cash movement across boarders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I contacted my affiliate and made the funds available to the security firm. I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited with the security firm. The Security Firm is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with instructions, the money was deposited with the security firm. The deceased told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. This was the last communication we had, this transpired around 24th of November 2006. In June last year, we got a call from the security firm informing us about the inactivity of that particular portfolio. I made futile efforts to locate the deceased. I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of Kleinwort Benson. Four days later, information started to trickle in, apparently our client was dead. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Cannes , in Southern part of France . We were soon enough to identify the body and cause of death was confirmed. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In the field of private banking, opening an account with us means no one will know of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use numbers and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This investigation has for the past months been unfruitful; we’ve used our private investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is this investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as a possible relative of the deceased. What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethical practice but I want you to understand something. It is only an outsider to the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for those that occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose. There is Six Million dollars deposited in a security firm, I alone have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for as far as my Bank is concerned. My proposal: I now seek your permission to present you as a next of kin to the deceased, as all documentations will be carefully worked to make you the beneficiary to the funds $12,000 000 (Twelve Million United States Dollar); I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct The security Firm to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to share the proceeds 50/50.I would have gone ahead to ask that the funds be released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in claiming the deposit. We can fine-tune this based on our interactions. I am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no interest in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you do not be vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do not want you contacting me through my official phone lines nor do I want you contacting me through my official email account. Contact me only through the numbers I will provide for you and also through this email address. I do not want any direct link between you and myself. My official lines are not secured lines as they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in line with our Total Quality Management Policy. Please observe this instruction religiously. Do not betray my confidence. Kindly send your response to my private email: phimorgan00@sify.com I await your response. Mr. Philip Morgan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 05:49:54 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D58733BE87; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:49:47 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1mHF6C.A.XTC.C2F0JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:49:54 +0000 (UTC) I was researching power supplies for my old DOD Meat Box and DOD Buzz Box distortion pedals tonight, trying to see what is available and if I could buy things cheaper than standard name brand adaptors. Online, I was discovering that electronic supply places have pedals much cheaper than , say, the proverbial BOSS PSA 120 power adaptors which are up to over $30 USD when shipping is included. The DOD adaptor for the Buzz Box as an example is $18 from DOD and $10.25 from the first electronic supply place that I went to through google. In the process, I called up Bob Amstadt (my favorite electricity and electronics guru and spiritual advisor) to ask him about what adaptors will work and which ones won't (this might be a cool additional thread topic , actually, for newbies to the stompbox world such as myself). Anyway, I told him that I keep a bunch of old used 9 volt batteries (in various short lengths of time before their battery death) and that , sometimes, when I am tracking something into my computer, I'll switch out 4 or 5 of them on the offchance that the particular stomp box pedal that I'm working with will freakout as the voltage drops precipitously. He then hipped me to the fact that there are companies that make variable power supplies (specialty hospital equipment, apparently, have the need these things for various equipment). Brand new they are pretty pricey ($190 US) but he told me that you can pick up old 60's ones inexpensively sometimes at electronics surplus stores, so we have a date, soon, to go see if we can find one cheaply some day. I thought that would be such a very hip thing to have. Has anyone experimented with this? I know that I record everything if the footpedal is really starting to do weird things, because you may have some random strange noises made and the unit will never make the same noise again (and it's pretty difficult to reproduce the results with another battery). My Casio SK-1 miniature keyboard/sampler just does lovey weirdness when it's batteries go low. I use the keyboards loop capability to create some really nice random 'weird' loops this way, so, see? This thread actually is relevant to live loopers so I can post it with a modicum of guilt. Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 07:03:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD2FD3BE84; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238396639; bh=/d7utjvmXlP2qCH6rtPEKHzFyIsN7Wzsfarsq9LcCDk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nGSucng1VopteZLlIQacjWE4WRoufxNz++PgAbeG3vCIY15aeYGKHtLOkpbHMCgo4hw4UtzCfdXSryVNrQp7oGDmV2jASNfxtjf2BTC+h84ybrRGn/nRb+FEJjm1gQbq45KoTITBMPFHWVItMJksBpxQE6KOIJ6QIp5Xx9kytlE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=dBC8nWApBB+4Z8eQ9S3hKRKxj2NLUgK7VazM1T8uoaqFSe2T8k7n/tHzZdbd7QDNoxgNmyp35YTOlIUVG33ME5bNUHjYlnk3teS2Q1iBq3hedxim4+G6MHFJlXk0TJUXC5xy8GeUQQiww2tNgbOT11S7JuxnVI2W2EC1YgoxqHs=; Message-ID: <16208.22332.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: yF9t2SYVM1l2EcVUGUqXiGikqtNxaY88eilKyLDIYEJrQsYu6bO_G.0joJmkGmVglJYI4vMKbCxVx6hhkdoInBjCqmtFCBIO47SaSbk3P6DMKQlMLduj9zqxWQ7V0.QDEMyWYssxjfXONbGCHZdtfeaBEdEPOEHmoyXvnahZtHNz9.q1XZVqvEtNpg3YN_1erSeq032eLHx.iZcGmt34DyulnBXMJxvYUxDsbb4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:03:59 +0000 (UTC) that would have been nice,however i tried 3 of them 2 being brand new ones!= =0Acheers=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A=0A--- On Sun, 3/29/09, andy= butler wrote:=0A=0A> From: andy butler =0A> Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question=0A> To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com=0A> Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 12:56 PM=0A> c= ould be the fault is in the cable.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> L.Angulo wrote:=0A> >= I still dont know if my firewire PCI card was at fault=0A> or not, meanwhi= le RME claims their card is not at=0A> fault(although i had to send it once= already for repairs=0A> before the warranty was even due)so now they sent = it back=0A> from repair and charged me 150.-eur but guess what?it istill=0A= > didnt work!Now they are saying their card worked perfectly=0A> when they = tested it and that it must be my PCI card.Now i=0A> had to resend it back b= ut they said if they have to repair=0A> it again is going to cost me just a= s much or more(gotta love=0A> their great fuckin customer service and their= friendliness)=0A> > what is puzzling me is that i conected the RME to my= =0A> macbook and my macbooks firewire was also fried which=0A> i=A0 had to = send out for repair(thank god i had the=0A> protection plan)so i dont know = what to think now and how to=0A> prove it but i am going nuts with this cra= p!=0A> > Luis=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =0A> >> It might be = that the broken RME grilled the two=0A> firewire=0A> >> interfaces...=0A> >= > You need another computer to test it...=0A> >>=0A> >> Stefan=0A> >>=0A> >= > -- Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x--=0A> >> --_____-----------|--------= ---|--=0A> >> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------=0A> >> -- _|_)----|-----()-= -------------=0A> >> ----------()----------TJ Shredder=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> > = =0A> > =0A> >=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0=0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 07:09:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FAF83BE89; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <9ab0c76f0903260619g7471263ej2aac5e5b31d5e7e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:09:05 +0200 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903300009n1e06f296l8af2fe0bb96ec60b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: loop-friendly venues From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d588d2e7bda5046650c24d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:09:21 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6d588d2e7bda5046650c24d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ill fix...you wensite info thing... I DID change the form a bit once already to include more specific address info. My thoughts behind the Safe Dangerous thing was to NOT get too anal about it. Like "song based Looping" or "Beats and loops" or "Drone".. In my experieance there are 3 types of venues, Safe, Dangerous and Anything. But Ill put a note on my site page... Mark On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > I think in order for this tool to get really useful, we'll need to be > able to enter more specific genre information than "Safe" or > "dangerous". I'd favor either a free-text box, or checkboxes for > well-known genres. Besides, only people who read your original LD > posting are going to know what "Safe" and "dangerous" represent. > > You deleted the website I put for "Luggage Store" on your spreadsheet, > even though my description says "Refer to the website for booking > info". > > This list is a great help - thank you. > > mark francombe was all: > > Thanks Matt... any venues you DO know, I hope you will add too... I mean, > if > > you got a gig there, then they are probably pretty open to new cool stuff > I > > think... at least under my "Dangerous" categorization... > > > > To everyone else.... COME ON!!! Im surprised by the lack of interest to > add > > to my list here!!! I think I want to make a suggestion, that EVERYONE > should > > try to add at least one venue to my list... > > > > I have also included a link to the current status of the list, Hopefully > > viewing the results will make it more interesting. > > Im thinking about all the threads over the years that concern places to > > play. Nowadays, bands are touring less, and I think there are alot more > > venues open to accepting left field works... It OUR time now... Lets get > on > > the road, and LOOP!!! > > > > The Looping Friendly Venue Tool. > > http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=525 > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6d588d2e7bda5046650c24d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ill fix...you wensite info thing... I DID change the form a bit once alread= y to include more specific address info.

My thoughts behind the Safe= Dangerous thing was to NOT get too anal about it. Like "song based Lo= oping" or "Beats and loops" or "Drone".. In my exp= erieance there are 3 types of venues, Safe, Dangerous and Anything.

But Ill put a note on my site page...

Mark

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com= > wrote:
I think in order = for this tool to get really useful, we'll need to be
able to enter more specific genre information than "Safe" or
"dangerous". I'd favor either a free-text box, or checkboxes = for
well-known genres. =A0Besides, only people who read your original LD
posting are going to know what "Safe" and "dangerous" r= epresent.

You deleted the website I put for "Luggage Store" on your spreads= heet,
even though my description says "Refer to the website for booking
info".

This list is a great help - thank you.

mark francombe <mark@markfranc= ombe.com> was all:
> Thanks Matt... any venues you DO kno= w, I hope you will add too... I mean, if
> you got a gig there, then they are probably pretty open to new cool st= uff I
> think... at least under my "Dangerous" categorization...
>
> To everyone else.... COME ON!!! Im surprised by the lack of interest t= o add
> to my list here!!! I think I want to make a suggestion, that EVERYONE = should
> try to add at least one venue to my list...
>
> I have also included a link to the current status of the list, Hopeful= ly
> viewing the results will make it more interesting.
> Im thinking about all the threads over the years that concern places t= o
> play. Nowadays, bands are touring less, and I think there are alot mor= e
> venues open to accepting left field works... It OUR time now... Lets g= et on
> the road, and LOOP!!!
>
> The Looping Friendly Venue Tool.
> http://www.markfrancombe.com/wordpress/?page_id=3D525
>




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--0016e6d588d2e7bda5046650c24d-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 08:49:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 836983BE8B; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=JrpmQbwNzh/kSLCEaGZrdLqeBNqJluwNuGj2GBaAFrY=; b=p9jYsXWOZsyMIDeSXL/qANt4GOCvrsL6w9apaXE98w8d0qYFzidQ6cWb3eWw8pG6Ir YXvyTqr7nn8FlKJVCf/InsECIfwruwNjRGtTtsAQoEvcqoRD2k5e7maO3SejaQOB3AWe hoVmyWIR+lb+t6R3/TMaz5ZbTWz/2xA2mWkr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tkBDL/ZwajRjDhShZDrE7CNxQjZh0MZMb+OE1Y9cDh6eibnk3G1znWWTSuciw13DtX 9KJ/+sg+OKZUFMKt0CMBKdX7uXwJaPVhj7Od2eOCaWshdHdT2+PBog3c5JuKtIwmW3sv c8ul06MtpVrVr3Afe3X79S0ttAr5MvLbixIeg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <24347.72.22.1238364855.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <24347.72.22.1238364855.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:49:02 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903300149q24cea27dsbf3400dc1dd38c3d@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Spacey Plugins (vst) for Bass and Guitar From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:49:03 +0000 (UTC) 2009/3/30 Andr=E9 Donawa : > Anyone have any recommendations? Reverb can be "spacey". SiR is a good convolution reverb, available for free also in the VST plug-in format: http://www.knufinke.de/sir/ With convolution technology the effect sounds as what you load it with. I bought a couple of wonderful collections of convolution reverb recordings from http://www.spiritcanyonaudio.com/. Quite "far out" stuff, fun to play through. Great bang-for-the-buck IMHO. However, big ambience recordings puts a huge strain to the CPU when loded into convolution reverbs for live playing. Being an old Eventide fan I'm more into the SoundToys Native bundle for live playing. These plug-ins also have a lot of useful parameters that you can play from pedals. With a strong laptop they come close to the classic boxes Eventide Eclips, the old legendary Harmonzier and the Orbit. Lots of "textural guitarists" play those effect sounds. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 09:09:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 576663BE8D; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=KG4mSkRpTfFt2DZoEz5bTCMjag+atMDXIUamjLQJmeo=; b=nzpvWfeodWS6J4H7AVlhRNTRIzKWFDTQ/UIesV/dzvF5kJ+2ZSu3Hn/zwvNnZWyLK2 bVOapdLQ72CFZTDw1kQyAoZEvEIgOCQL7smKia2wfdBU5Hku2FtSFu7thG8Deq+Q/sNX r7CAHxLr6ntHncF5JUZ5/xkPuw3sQglfOrZzE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EAfT7d0dCHLgOzpZ1rCX+BdpeaD54YeXnnmhXZnmKU2jUzc9bmvq2djKNZDmE+aZJ9 GUN+0br0P2/4Ew1DtLmYDQw3LinqGV2ElXf9ZTYBA6p9VfD7TYRNfZznZYl8Egg5MAuQ LO1UmSYOC9b87Fax968rHAHyvOzpxRne820SU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:09:53 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903300209t94550d8hb0f7b9c1ac043923@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looping and Ambisonics From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:09:55 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > www.myspace.com/signalsundertests=A0. > > I'd very much appreciate your feedback. Awesome! Very interesting collage style mixing. I had to pause the playback to verify that some very small but beautiful sounds were part of the music and not me overhearing my local neighbors. I can imagine this sounds great in Ambisonics! Per Link for those thirsting for knowledge: http://www.ambisonic.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 10:16:29 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A38F23BE8D; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> References: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:16:13 +0200 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903300316o7cf6dd6al864be58a20216b44@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de04e12460030466536015 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:16:29 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de04e12460030466536015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an (unused now) PSU for stomp boxes. called the flatliner. It actually has 3 or 4 outputs with a variable voltage, so you can feed pedals LESS than recommended. I didn't know this, but apparently some pedals (specifically distortion) do nice things whe fed less that OK power. I have tried it, and frankly I dont want it any more, som one wants it they can buy... heavy as **** tho... Mark On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I was researching power supplies for my old > DOD Meat Box and DOD Buzz Box distortion pedals > tonight, trying to see what is available and if I could buy things > cheaper than standard name brand adaptors. > > Online, I was discovering that electronic supply places have pedals > much cheaper than , say, the proverbial BOSS PSA 120 power adaptors > which are up to over $30 USD when shipping is included. > The DOD adaptor for the Buzz Box as an example is $18 from DOD > and $10.25 from the first electronic supply place that I went to through > google. > > In the process, I called up Bob Amstadt (my favorite electricity and > electronics guru > and spiritual advisor) to ask him about what adaptors will work and which > ones > won't (this might be a cool additional thread topic , actually, for newbies > to the stompbox world > such as myself). > > Anyway, I told him that I keep a bunch of old used 9 volt batteries (in > various > short lengths of time before their battery death) and that , sometimes, > when I > am tracking something into my computer, I'll switch out 4 or 5 of them on > the > offchance that the particular stomp box pedal that I'm working with will > freakout as the voltage drops precipitously. > > He then hipped me to the fact that there are companies that make variable > power supplies > (specialty hospital equipment, apparently, have the need these things for > various equipment). > > Brand new they are pretty pricey ($190 US) but he told me that > you can pick up old 60's ones inexpensively sometimes at > electronics surplus stores, so we have a date, soon, to go see if we can > find one > cheaply some day. > > I thought that would be such a very hip thing to have. > > Has anyone experimented with this? > > I know that I record everything if the footpedal is really starting to do > weird things, > because you may have some random strange noises made and the unit will > never > make the same noise again (and it's pretty difficult to reproduce the > results with another battery). > > My Casio SK-1 miniature keyboard/sampler just does lovey weirdness when > it's batteries go low. > I use the keyboards loop capability to create some really nice random > 'weird' loops this way, > so, see? This thread actually is relevant to live loopers so I can post > it with a modicum of guilt. > > Rick Walker > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6de04e12460030466536015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have an (unused now) PSU for stomp boxes. called the flatliner. It actual= ly has 3 or 4 outputs with a variable voltage, so you can feed pedals LESS = than recommended. I didn't know this, but apparently some pedals (speci= fically distortion) do nice things whe fed less that OK power. I have tried= it, and frankly I dont want it any more, som one wants it they can buy... = heavy as **** tho...


Mark





On Mon, Mar = 30, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
I was researching power supplies for my old
DOD Meat Box and DOD Buzz Box distortion pedals
tonight, =A0 trying to see what is available and if I could buy things
cheaper than standard name brand adaptors.

Online, I was discovering that electronic supply places have pedals
much cheaper than , say, =A0the proverbial BOSS PSA 120 power adaptors
which are up to over $30 USD when shipping =A0is included.
The DOD adaptor for the Buzz Box as an example is $18 from DOD
and $10.25 from the first electronic supply place that I went to through go= ogle.

In the process, =A0I called up Bob Amstadt (my favorite electricity and ele= ctronics guru
and spiritual advisor) =A0to ask him =A0about what adaptors will work and w= hich ones
won't (this might be a cool additional thread topic , actually, for new= bies to the stompbox world
such as myself).

Anyway, =A0I told him that I keep a bunch of old used 9 volt batteries (in = various
short lengths of time before their battery death) and that , sometimes, =A0= when I
am tracking something into my computer, =A0I'll switch out 4 or 5 of th= em on the
offchance that the particular stomp box pedal that I'm working with wil= l
freakout as the voltage drops precipitously.

He then hipped me to the fact that there are companies that make variable p= ower supplies
(specialty hospital equipment, apparently, have the need these things for v= arious equipment).

Brand new they are pretty pricey ($190 US) =A0but he told me that
you can pick up old 60's ones inexpensively sometimes at
electronics surplus stores, =A0so we have a date, soon, =A0to go see if we = can find one
cheaply some day.

I thought that would be such a very hip thing to have.

Has anyone experimented with this?

I know that I record everything if the footpedal is really starting to do w= eird things,
because you may have some random strange noises made and the unit will neve= r
make the same noise again (and it's pretty difficult to reproduce the r= esults with another battery).

My Casio SK-1 =A0miniature keyboard/sampler just does lovey weirdness when = it's batteries go low.
I use the keyboards loop capability to create some really nice random '= weird' loops this way,
so, =A0see? =A0 =A0This thread actually is relevant to live loopers so I ca= n post it with a modicum of guilt.

Rick Walker




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--0016e6de04e12460030466536015-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 10:58:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A2B23BE8F; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=/OWaFTJrrgcQLrGI8vrwBAvl8nHspdAVVDsxqI7U4pE=; b=PVaJD9TRiG3pCRynuLmWrt4EAn8TD8JWSWv68pI/nu9Jl5ylZ5dEFkHE9RUjZoOSQa 9VnmGGnwKIpUL6/xDGm6tlunHwQJ2eWpsuGc7TQeAZxHJ/YZVe/lCnanXLZwX6ZdZIoH TlRbdoheT5VhO42tULCxZ2uYleM8E7CMwgfjk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=tU8jeN/G3tLrbjS9nUI27lvqwy7l61AwkOSth7Rp9/gO+CzQv8DBVaFyCvpWbRVTKh Up1iR2PPbstuwnXDrV2FbP2HS+a7DQ4AWEl5JQmnUyn1+TedkRTZYDKqhioRPvLTC//6 dS9KhoBsAG0aMIRmZFTAWYV6VrNZBqLEdHRfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000001c9b0b2$06b0b100$050313ac@PIPO> References: <000001c9b0b2$06b0b100$050313ac@PIPO> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:58:30 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903300358x5bb291b6m88612a450012635a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage and midi channels From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 10:58:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sjaak, I suspect one solution for you would be to use different MIDI In ports for the Program Changes that swap patches and for the MIDI notes that play instruments. You can set that at Mainstage's "Device Input" (in Layout view's Layout Inspector). That's how I've been using MS and the reason I never noticed the issue you're bringing up; that a MIDI Program Change input can not be filtered by MIDI channel. MIDI notes can, though, and here's how: - In Layout Mode, select the Keyboard Object. - Look left, into the Layout Inspector, and change "Channel = All" to the MIDI channel you want your virtual instruments to react to. I use the two MIDI ports built into my audio interface, but I still have a free USB jack on the Macbook where I can pop in a MIDI Link if I would need a third MIDI port. Another solution for you could be to use any two Screen Control Objects (the "Button" object?) in Mainstage and assign them to function as "Next Patch" and "Previous Patch". Then you can assign simple external MIDI Notes to scroll the patch list - without the need for going into MIDI Program Change at all. Over here I duplicate both this "patch scroller" for a continuous scroll knob and direct patch selection by MIDI Program Change. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Sjaak wrote: > I've been testing with Mainstage and discovered that it seems to respond to > midi messages no mather what channel you specify. For example, if you send > program change on channel 5 from your MFC, Mainstage reacts even if you have > assigned channel 1 to your instrument. I checked the manual and internet > forums but I can't find a way to filter midi channels in Mainstage. Does > anyone know a workaround, some filter program on OSX level? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 11:06:33 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47F0E3BE8E; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zzWstz6ey5wCjB3WyGOXdNfm20D0d2iBkqrzcIKEZ04=; b=GMbyZIV8RleD1Nwt/b1QT/l/jFJQqqEq2dUWQXn16bsNZPbIM8ZFVVJBWKEtIDERvp sfnfwNIPLO2aZcgpy9mxmnCS62Kiy8XECmAdabbJ1QLA8YFUHaPSrfYRUVousNiHSr0y Oneco2J07iNKJWT3sJPdaEj/HbLqxFAdw+tCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=SWpQWEsS4SRETSGnsHmqKahx2f1liSwLEcMXu0WZoasGJZQuzSZQIekjrquROTKsFO BtvOR+g8ASAQyOLrpe8+Nf7q3/x6qOx/b/nwGC4kFx+zXdXcPa9Q4Ak/7mgSo8Ba0SYs 5n1qguSRNk+E4e7R8e8mo9JiQV4LkLaL02Lh4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000001c9b0b2$06b0b100$050313ac@PIPO> References: <000001c9b0b2$06b0b100$050313ac@PIPO> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:06:32 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903300406j5be7a32fhde4c098fc6d5a8b0@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Mainstage and midi channels From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:06:33 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Does > anyone know a workaround, some filter program on OSX level? MIDI Pipe is an excellent freeware for OS X that does MIDI patching PRE software. I tried it out in order to create a bunch virtual MIDI Ports and that worked fine. In MIDI Pipe you can filter the physically incoming MIDI and direct it to specific virtual MIDI ports. Then it is a breeze in Mainstage to fetch data from only certain chose inputs. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 11:28:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668043BE92; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ldusvCebmhTbjD5qC8deEg7MW7r9a7v71fsDFUl3wgc=; b=cs8nR3Bp5QkbJ260/e+eobRIpHntb96ZlBnIZVGWtQ1/Ekp7ibUXC6hUBqfGrM0e0L A85Ae6MGHKWprE59eHc/hKmaXho/9kCP/m+BXJ9tfFVmw1XEb4UAjL2wGL/+DCQbf58A sd9wTKa+V5mqrNB3fSNoRVcglMd1meTT7Rir0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Y9Yl+7Sap5BMVLqVBrSceXjbDvHhjI0IpX3mzLg9OgTZbHl59+QrG+kkJBc5gnO9Bb 7Ot7roVqu26u/n9nitDKviJTCL11iYfgIRmck91p6WYJFuHzXHMmI5KEbIraa0wV0gbZ 8O6GWu12DnOkgroTKBiKTWubVlkyQH537xB7c= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0903300316o7cf6dd6al864be58a20216b44@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> <9ab0c76f0903300316o7cf6dd6al864be58a20216b44@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:28:52 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903300428o171ce79eq94e3429be46eaa2@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:28:53 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:16 PM, mark francombe wrote: > I have an (unused now) PSU for stomp boxes. called the flatliner. It > actually has 3 or 4 outputs with a variable voltage, so you can feed pedals > LESS than recommended. I didn't know this, but apparently some pedals > (specifically distortion) do nice things whe fed less that OK power. I have > tried it, and frankly I dont want it any more, som one wants it they can > buy... heavy as **** tho... Wow - that seems just like the treat for Rick's studio. Maybe not for the road tho... Wondering if stomp boxes will react as lab rats on being fed almost less than they need? The rats grow healthy and live longer under those minimal supplies. Then I should start running my Behringer pedals on worn-out batteries to make them last longer than the usual three years ;-)) pboy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 11:33:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F04243BE92; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 461 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:33:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FT1xQdRnk7ZFWs6jjfazhYMsNFYcUozowkTkt1Vl9SM=; b=PDhnUqA2eNgRzRQHkpAqFg8irdpDbLED+EiAn6riij1+5E/YDYEd1Y5+afIlmktOLz X02TCLQTnxbrTF+VTUVxegB5OZ9a4pRojrVz0n27qvu279UOI4EDNtkJMyWiRIo+gnuK OLqJEXnlZv0kvVdrekgFh0IFqIpnChpszlk5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=hIERmfEL018bLOoUVrEIKGBSDC4h223IJJfy9qM91u3OjYAostMWtw+bKLZz9a6nTE JgENlGPFAuLiGbHJ6V6sknB3vhcA55kn1S2/fy87tvvEeB7xbBCFMwBYlRHc/nUVAG51 S3/XD6AtcSLYkwNDbZas2GVWQzkuWglN95W/Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:26:14 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903300426h3ce2f7ecy2f147e0c06a914de@mail.gmail.com> Subject: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:33:58 +0000 (UTC) I've already gone on alot about my replacing the PSUs which came with the effects boxes with switching power supplies (SPS) so I can run them both from 110 and 220V (say, Germany and US). Apart from that, first note that there are specialized pedal board power supplies from a few manufacturers which, while not necessarily being inexpensive, have the advantage that you can several (like 5 or 8 or 12) stomp boxes from one PSU which isn't that big. They start at around =8040 for 8 9V and 2 12V outputs (including cables). Note that these, however, are not of the SPS type, but some of those can be switched between 110 and 220 (like e.g. the Behringer FCB1010). > He then hipped me to the fact that there are companies that make variable= power supplies (specialty hospital equipment, apparently, have the need th= ese things for various equipment). There are also some of these pedalboard PSUs which have specific outputs which can be regulated in voltage to simulate a weak battery. One which I found is this one: http://www.voodoolab.com/pedalpower_2.htm Note, however, that they won't necessarily simulate a weak battery precisely, as the output voltage of a weak battery is highly dependant on the current draw, so it's only an approximation (but nevertheless in the vast majority of cases a sufficient one). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 12:06:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EC7A3BE92; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 174882598/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.166.120/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.166.120 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am4BABRS0ElPRqZ4/2dsb2JhbAAIyWGDegaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,446,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="174882598" Message-ID: <49D0B7EE.6060903@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:15:42 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals References: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:06:08 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Anyway, I told him that I keep a bunch of old used 9 volt batteries (in > various > short lengths of time before their battery death) and that , sometimes, > when I > am tracking something into my computer, I'll switch out 4 or 5 of them > on the > offchance that the particular stomp box pedal that I'm working with will > freakout as the voltage drops precipitously. > > He then hipped me to the fact that there are companies that make > variable power supplies > (specialty hospital equipment, apparently, have the need these things > for various equipment). > Variable power supplies are commonly used by people who work with electronics, and are sold under the name "Bench power supplies". Some of them can provide a continuously variable voltage. That won't mimic a dying battery tho' (may still produce interesting behaviour changes in your gear, but unlikely the same ones). The difference between a good battery and a flat one is not actually Voltage, it's something called internal resistance. So...in theory...all you need to do to make a good battery resemble a dying one is add a resistance in series. I'm guess we're into "get someone to solder it for me" territory here (unless you bought that fleamarket bargain soldering iron) The resistor you need ...well I don't know what would work best... ...you could try starting with a 1k log pot then turn the spindle till the desired artefacts appeared. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 12:08:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4A4D3BE94; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 170876826/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.166.120/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.166.120 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am4BAART0ElPRqZ4/2dsb2JhbAAIj325XoIsgU4Ghzo X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,446,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="170876826" Message-ID: <49D0B88C.2020407@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:18:20 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question References: <16208.22332.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <16208.22332.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_sNXfC.A.yuG.OZL0JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:08:46 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo wrote: > that would have been nice,however i tried 3 of them 2 being brand new ones! > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > sure, but if it was the old one that you tried first, and it had a short, it could have fried your firewire card. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 12:23:10 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 438143BE94; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:22:59 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals To: Rick Walker , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:23:10 +0000 (UTC) Greetings Rick and everyone - I think there are some very low-tech ways of feeding low power to effects. I can't say for sure, cuz I just don't have the time to go through all my electronics books, but you could probably put some kind of potentiometer between the power source and the device that would drain volts off in a controllable manner. I have a toddler's Sesame Street "radio" that plays about a half-dozen kiddie songs in a single-note electronicy-chime tone. I circuit-bent it so that one bare wire comes out off the circuit board. If I touch this wire, it drains the power: the pitch drops and the tempo slows down. The more contact I make with the wire, the more dramatic the effect. Good for about five minutes of stupid-time... I bet some solder-savvy looper is gonna have a solution to this low-power possibility. Douglas Baldwin Alpha Coyote coyotelk@optonline.net www.TheCoyote.org "The purpose of music is to sober and quiet the mind, thus rendering it suseptible to divine influences." -- Thomas Mace (17th century), transmitted to Gita Sarabhai, as told to John Cage From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 12:42:23 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63E503BE84; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D0BE28.70201@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 05:42:16 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: loop-friendly venues Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7GxP-C.A.fN.v4L0JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Dear Mark, What I've noticed, viz a vis your list of loop freindly venues around the planet is that frequently, it's more efficacious to find out who the people are in a region who can help you to find a gig, as opposed to having a list of specific gigs. That's why I haven't responded yet to this list because, frankly, despite Steve Lawson calling my home town the 'live looping capitol of the univers", I can't really send you a definitive list of venues that one could book in my area. Instead, I think it might be a more accurate list to mention the people who seem the most committed to this notion of helping live looping artists to get a gig when they are on tour. Here's a long winded , but salient list of reason why I think this is true and, at the end of my exposition, a list of people who one might contact through this list if they are trying to book a gig in a region. To whit: All of my adult life (from the turn of the decade from 70's to 80's until the prestent time) I have constantly searched for and encouraged the creation of new venues for all original music, whether it be new wave/punk/world music/live looping/ experimental/goth-industrial or noise music. Toward that end, in my home town of Santa Cruz, California, I've been successful at getting literally dozens of venues to open themselve up to new music/creative performances. Over those years, the lion's share of every single one of those venues has gone out of business, one by one. Oddly enough, I've never gotten very depressed about this because I realize that there is always an idealist who opens up a gallery or museum; a struggling local bar who can always use an infusion of a small but fanatical group of cretive musicians to swell there ranks on at least an off night. Also, having committed my entire adult life to trying to promote the notion of creative community I have noticed that many, many venues will be open to new music but that , essentially, it really takes someone being fanatical and completely existentially committed to the proposition of expanding the community of creativity in a regional location. Even in my touring in Europe and the UK, I have noticed that every several years, the really hip and supportive venues have changed hands or gone completely out of business. I've played amazing venues in Santa Cruz, San Francisco, Oakland, Berkeley, the South Bay, Monterey, Carmel and many, many places in Scandinavia, Western Europe, the UK, Mexico, Canada and Japan that no longer exist. This constant overturn of venues could be really depressing to me if several people in this community didn't feel completely committed to the unstoppable force of human creativity and the notion of it's promotion. ****** This is a really long winded explanation of why I can't really contribute to your list in the SF and Monterey Bay Areas despite the fact that this might be one of the strongest places to present live looping music per capita on the entire earth. The venues keep changing and a lot of them get opened up only by dent of personality as opposed to the success of commerce. As a stellar example, I've had the Y2K series in 5 different locations over 8 years and I can't honestly recommend any of them for travelling loopers because either they are mostly not open to live looping presently or they literally don't exist. Two of the wonderful spots that I did the festival in (the Rio Theatre and the Cayuga Vault) were brand new struggling arts venues when I first approached the owners to do the festival. At the time, I had enough clout from having successful bands in the region that I could offer them all kinds of publicity if they would gift us with a venue for the looping festival. At the time, that was a great idea and mutually beneficial to all parties concerned. After a while, though, they had to pay the rent or mortgages that they had involved themselves in to run these places and our little wonderful but economically modest festival just couldn't help them to stay in business. Even the venue that we've produced the festival in the last three years is struggling greatly due to the recession/depression that Northern California finds itself in (and it's much worse here than most places in the US at least) and as of this late date I don't even know if I have a spot to do Y2K9 for certain because the owner may have to let go of his lease. This means that I really don't have the ability to list great places to loop in this area..................................at all!!!!! ****** At the same time, what I've noticed is that there are personalities in this scene who seem incredibly committed to this notion of the live looping community and pushing it's existence to the world. _* My advice is that a list of those people is really just as important , or perhaps more, than a list of specific venues (which come and go).*_ As an example, in my experience, I can reccommend some names of people to contact if you want to get something going. I'm a bit tired tonight and it's late so please don't be offended if I have a brain fart and forget you, but contacting these individuals will be as efficacious in determing a place to play live looping music as a specific list of current live looping venues: note: many of these people may no longer be involved, actively in the promoting the international live looping movement, but all of them have made significant contributions in the past. My apologies to anyone who no longer wants to be involved with this list. Also, I am just not very connected to the New York/East Coast scene so please forgive my lack of information around that scene. Please , anyone............................amend this list with my humble apologies. _United States_ Peter Koniuata, David Kirkdorffer, Tim Nelson (Boston) Todd Reynolds (New York City) Michael Klobuchar (Pittsburgh) James Sidlo (San Antonio) Hans Lindauer (Portland --- originator of Loopstock) Rick Walker, Bill Walker, Glenn Smith, Chris Cohn, Dan Soltberg (Santa Cruz) Matt Davignon (San Francisco) _England_ Andy Butler (Norwich), Andrew Ostler (formerly of Cambridge) Steve Lawson (London) _Northern Ireland _ Ricky Graham (Derry), Paul Marshall (Bangor/Belfast) _Wales_ Gareth Whittock (Swansea) _Sweden _ Per Boysen (Stockholm) Tryggve Lund (Sweden/Norway) _Norway _ Tellef Orgrim (Oslo) _Finland _ Miro Mantere (Poorvo/Helsinki) _Germany _ Leander Reinhinghaus (Berlin) Andreas Willers (Berlin) Michael Peters (Koln) Rainer Straschill (Munchen) Luis Angulo (Radolfzell/Konstanz) _Switzerland_ Bernhard Wagner (Zurich) Claude Voit (Lucerne) _Belgium _ Sjaak Overgaauw (Antwerp) _Italy_ Massimo Livernani (Firenze) Fabio Anile (Roma) Bruno Kleinefeld (Milano) Luca Formentini (Descenzano/Lago Di Garda) _ Greece_ Costas Andreou (Athens) _Brazil_ Matthias Grob (Bahia) _Bahamas _ Andre Donawa (Barbado) _Argentina_ Ariel Rzezak (Buenos Ares) _Singapore _ Randolf Arrioloa (Singapore) _Japan _ Sunao Inami (Kobe/Osaka) Aci (Tokyo) Okay, I know I"m missing a lot of important people (especially people from my own country) Please help me out and forgive me any brain farts. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 12:59:55 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BDC43BE8D; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:59:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KBIzMoL7y8/am7Tt1IS3yIb0uvkQ2OtH3txsSaO3X58=; b=cSm78F3nD7xjWNAR+KTfkrC1hQOyE1omNQ0T3lRI8AF6oJNaI+5w8OMS4z9qdu/J8W EKP5232bx2EDeh7R/A31DmBDpP5N6yVZBS2HwpVSkp67ux9e2HOkX1dcueXERvGpPLRf yBY9EztGcMQnU/dJeRGKejraFjW0q2WIa2/gg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lVF+cAXbR32bdYZJnqJXxwS9ZdNH67bqbn2NKxnfQMngAxp2ZbbtM+OAwWsIlX5wxF KFmD6LkNphdRnetZRdTdJV3bUc4VodsO35WMtaIFY5gv3bYbTCqAS3a23maIVpI9w1j0 B/sx/twWOouakraSWZn/P9ZKYXBKXdFQipXbo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <399887.16581.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <399887.16581.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:59:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions From: Dennis Moser To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00221532cf6c89e15d046655a89f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:59:55 +0000 (UTC) --00221532cf6c89e15d046655a89f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tim! About the use of the two pedals: you really need a pair as, they are used to control four functions on the Vortex ... "Bypass", "Up/Down Patch", "A/B Morph", and "Tap" ... and they use stereo/TRS cables. "Bypass" is the one function not accessible from the front; the ther three can be reached through the front. Yeah, RPM 2009 ... a bunch of us held a "virtual" Listening Party in Second Life. I played the three tracks and in between did a couple of impromptus. Much fun... Best, Dennis On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Tim Nelson wrote: > > --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Dennis Moser wrote: > > 1. Lexicon Vortex. ... If you get one, get two > > sets of pedals, along with an expression pedal and you will > > have a fun little tool. > > Hi Dennis, > > Why two sets of pedals? Can it be used duplex with each set controlling > different functions, or is this for backup? > > Saw your disc on the table at the Portsmouth RPM party last night! Lots of > fun was had! > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ --00221532cf6c89e15d046655a89f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tim!

About the use of the two pedals: you really need a pair as, = they are used to control four functions on the Vortex ... "Bypass"= ;, "Up/Down Patch", "A/B Morph", and "Tap" ..= . and they use stereo/TRS cables. "Bypass" is the one function no= t accessible from the front; the ther three can be reached through the fron= t.

Yeah, RPM 2009 ... a bunch of us held a "virtual" Listening P= arty in Second Life. I played the three tracks and in between did a couple = of impromptus. Much fun...

Best,

Dennis


On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. Lexicon Vortex. ... If you get one, get two
> sets of pedals, along with an expression pedal and y= ou will
> have a fun little tool.

Hi Dennis,

Why two sets of pedals? Can it be used duplex with each set controlling dif= ferent functions, or is this for backup?

Saw your disc on the table at the Portsmouth RPM party last night! Lots of = fun was had!

-t-

http://www= .myspace.com/nimbletunes
http://cdbaby= .com/all/timnelson
http://www.= youtube.com/speleman62







--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
--00221532cf6c89e15d046655a89f-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 13:36:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA0423BE82; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=VIQLtMZRz5VEs9A1InQa6g/SZ3y15n2Gc5mA6F+1Vl0=; b=EL1Ln4EQzkCb5EMzVGXvXhTMrWzjYeq3kTJv1EpYnTGq240yW/KPfx7gJBjN0lPqPt BFFviSOIKW1yiFnM7MnjKdRXbUAqTR+awSrz2yMWkXV7S3anzucHo6lbXhm6+s0CqCIv TReCZkHLLpJjoJZS06MAvZyHhD28yHZcXYM20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jz0o+ZeGqxxUtW7AwSEofTAJhanKEhRDr53YTt5soo8pNuUCyhE8JxKxeK+n6iaZ6C +ssSaSSe+2oD2nFeYQVgDGvr3PrIQDNW1X/3DdHTHcilLRzC5loMysgV5/8wv4wBpUSO O/t0iPnKbTJYSOblCfgcUwNc3O8Te7uBGc8vY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <49D0BE28.70201@cruzio.com> References: <49D0BE28.70201@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:36:58 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903300636s6372997ft3229094a17ebff26@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: loop-friendly venues From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:36:58 +0000 (UTC) I've been thinking about what "looper friendly venue" might mean but not found out that I know about any such. So far the concerts I do locally here in Sweden have not been the fruit of my dedicated marketing research. It's rather the other way around, as I have a financing problem with playing for the lowest payment. Those few events that has hired my services have rather been looking for something else than "looping". Maybe for "experimental music", "sound art" or simply "weird jazz" - and luckily I have been doing quite a lousy job explaining what I'm trying to do - so different people tend to see me as a different kind of player and luckily it has happened now and then that this fragmented picture of me has temporarily been resonating with someones ideas about something. But here's another idea I have actually been using and that worked: Whenever you plan to look for a gig in a city, or a region, first go to a public library and collect all the local daily papers for the region. Scan through "art and entertainment advertisements" pages and write down a list of all venues, institutions or organizations of the area that arrange events where your act would fit in (remember you may "fit in" as the odd card as well - I once had a blast doing live looping impro at a singer-song-writer's evening beer club... yeah, yeah, funny but it sort of worked). Ok, next stage is to Google the list of players and find out who is in charge of planning the program at the venues. You may use the phone to call and ask who to speak to for presenting live show offers. Now - Before you start making phone calls - change your hat! TAke on the hat of "your manager", "your publisher" or whatever person that should be able to help you doing this and talk about about the artist (you) as one fair part in a business negotiation. Maybe you are in the lucky position of really having a person in that role... well, when we did this trick we played all the roles by ourselves and managed to offer venues "a special deal" that was not so expensive as the local top commercial artists but still priced well enough for making it possible from our perspective. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 13:48:36 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F14A3BE87; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> References: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:48:29 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:48:36 +0000 (UTC) At 10:49 PM -0700 3/29/09, Rick Walker wrote: > >Anyway, I told him that I keep a bunch of old used 9 volt batteries >(in various >short lengths of time before their battery death) and that , >sometimes, when I >am tracking something into my computer, I'll switch out 4 or 5 of them on the >offchance that the particular stomp box pedal that I'm working with will >freakout as the voltage drops precipitously. > >He then hipped me to the fact that there are companies that make >variable power supplies >(specialty hospital equipment, apparently, have the need these >things for various equipment). > >I thought that would be such a very hip thing to have. > >Has anyone experimented with this? Voltage sag is now "the new black" as far as boutique pedals are concerned, and you can find that many of the models released within the last year have power starve controls built right into them. Otherwise, there's many different ways to get this effect. As you've discovered, the old battery trick has been used for years. Also, there are high-end pedal voltage supplies (like the Voodoo Labs Pedal Power series) that offer at least one output with variable voltage. I've got a Guyatone PS that does this and it works pretty well. These are frickin' expensive, though. As a more intriguing entry, you might try taking a look at the Power Struggle by Dwarfcraft Devices ("your old pal Aen"): http://www.analoguehaven.com/dwarfcraftdevices/powerstruggle/ It's nothing more than a variable power sag, but you can control this one with an expression pedal so it's easy to find a distortion's 'sweet spots' in real time. Still a bit pricey at ~$95, but at least it's got an interesting twist. And finally, for my pick, there's the simple but functional devolt from Beavis Audio Research ( http://www.beavisaudio.com/products/devolt/ ). Beavis is also a great resource for DIY pedal building/mods, and even tells you how to make/mod your own: http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/ Anyway, the devolt is only $39 + $7 shipping. Cool product from a cool guy. Hope that helps... :) --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 14:02:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81BB13BE8C; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 174939295/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.166.120/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.166.120 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am4BAC9u0ElPRqZ4/2dsb2JhbAAIym2DegaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,446,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="174939295" Message-ID: <49D0D342.6060502@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:12:18 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MASTER LIST of Least Costly Live Looping Solutions References: <399887.16581.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Dennis Moser wrote: > Hi Tim! > > About the use of the two pedals: you really need a pair as, they are > used to control four functions on the Vortex ... "Bypass", "Up/Down > Patch", "A/B Morph", and "Tap" ... and they use stereo/TRS cables. > "Bypass" is the one function not accessible from the front; the ther > three can be reached through the front. Along with the expreassion ped and TapAB switches I just use a single ("mono" cable) switch into the Bypass/UpDownPatch socket so it only does Bypass. ...that's the absolute minimum. Actually tho', maybe I should use the patch select switch as well ;-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 14:09:51 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF06B3BE92; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tokwD3aixb9UnvrKPHt0WVdmRuN/yOvgcgk6lO0S8kI=; b=xJ9kW72WHv6z+Tk6hzKx+fctG0eCin2GwWDC1rAr2nXQTY7iJfLQ/03lZF494cizia erXt9n5ruT22HDr/Y2ZtZS1KhnpJE7TnZ5dLShF9MOk9N1dy8WkfrQxNOf+etMQiwG00 VLVj/Bh7FTSon0DTfVigxKsLFCKXsPAZh52o0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=u80h9eQfU9TeB9wU5uXzvukEtrOPd+bQuHqn5hOH9xsEsNmF/VonHvqIDdHwPzFcsx 1wDV5gexXE13xxTnxbTRvOWiMgUya44WNq82OFmptzbagjeehxdX7N2ZxEt/coCh0M7T rehSNXImIrPlydGv/+AZBNdqSTO9KoEiFoRTs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:09:47 +0200 Message-ID: <7334ca1b0903300709l24e44e70o2be18740600551ae@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags From: Rainer Straschill To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, sometime ago (more specifically in February) I asked for a bag for a Behringer FCB1010 plus BCR2000 to complete the bag/case solution for my current live rig. Now, as time has passed (and I had to take looks at different bags), all is ready and completed, and I'd like you to know about it. Read on for a capturing tale of requirments engineering, package partitioning and how this author was able to beat the prestigious Rick Walker International Live Looping Festival Challenge in record time! 1. THE REQUIREMENTS: =================== The setup is essentially what people were seeing on the trombone solo gigs on my MoinSound 2008 World Tour (basically, the BEMF main festival and Pasing). The setup is centered around the noise sources of trombone and vocals and a laptop (Dell D620) is used for processing. As for the MMI, a Behringer BCR2000 faderbox and the well-known (and -hated) FCB1010 are used. There are, as of now, the following rack-mount components: a TC Electronic Konnekt24D audio interface, an AKG WMS 40 two-channel wireless receiver (together with fitting bodypacks and microphones for vocals and trombone) and a LD Systems MEI100 wireless in-ear-monitoring system (together with a pair of Sony in-ears). This is complemented by a Zoom H2 (for recording). Of course, there's also a trombone - a Bach Stradivarius B42 together with a stand. My requirements: * the system should be wired as completely as possible when packed. * setup (and breakdown) time should be minimized. * portability so I can carry the entire thing in one trip. Means also: lightweight. ("portability" also means "to be carried" - i.e. if going up a flight of stairs) * the system should work with both 110 and 230V power supply. * being able to withstand airplane baggage handling is not a requirement. It's meant for those cases where I drive e.g. in my car or on a train and am able to handle the stuff myself, thank you. 2. PARTITIONING: ============= It's obvious that you won't fit everything into one bag, so some partitioning was in order. First of all, putting the trombone in a bag of its own makes sense obviously, so I can also take it to an unelectronic gig. I obtained a Protec C239: http://www.protecmusic.com/items.aspx?ProductID=60&InstrumentID=37&InstrumentGroupID=1&CategoryID=3&subCategoryID=1 It's solidly padded, also for the slide compartment, and has another long pocket on the other side of the compartment for the bell, which not only holds the mouthpiece, shoulder strap, cream etc., but also the trombone stand. I also got the accessory shoulder strap so I can carry the thing on my back. It shows that it works well to keep the bodypack/microphone attached when packing the trombone. For that, I fitted the bodypack into a small pouch, attached that to the pipes of the instrument and with that, everything's set. The computer and rackmount components are of course best held in one of those cases specifically made for this. There are those which are for the real rough handling - but come with the downside of not being optimized for carrying (e.g. with a shoulder strap), as this one: http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=&id=426&o=&offset=1&c=102&s=78# However, with a rack depth of 9.5'', this is rather shallow. Too much? In my case, yes: the Konnekt24D is 9'' deep - add to that cables and it becomes a no-go. What I finally selected was this: http://www.gatorcases.com/productsmodeldetail.aspx?LID=25&PID=26&MID=384 Not as sturdy as the SKB item, however with a aluminum-made rack frame, it seems sturdy enough (unless put on a plane - this is true especially for the laptop pocket, which is merely padded). Note that when installing, I found that my hestitation towards the SKB's depth was not without reason: including power strip, PSUs and cables, this rack is completely filled. There is a hole in between the rack and the laptop compartment - important to fulfill my "all cables have to be in place" requirement. With that, the leftover components are: two bodypacks (one with headphones, one with headset mike), the Zoom H2, the BCR2000 and the FCB1010 - all of which I liked to have in one bag. In the emails here, Fabio recommended a Warwick Rockbag to me (thanks, Fabio!), and although the item he uses didn't work for me, another one did: a DJ bag: http://www.warwick-distribution.de/?katID=19088&cl=EN&did=1 (note to self: why is it that we end up using products made for DJs all of a sudden? Just the other day, I talked to Per about a MIDI faderbox, and he told me about his faderfox, which one store carried in the DJ department as well). Normally meant to hold two CD players and a DJ mixer, it works equally well in its new role. 3. PUTTING IT TOGETHER: ==================== Surprisingly, it worked right from the start. As mentioned, the laptop/rack case is totally cramped, but otherwise works fine. Note that there's a power distribution strip sitting in this case, not only feeding the wireless units, interface and laptop (the PSUs for the wireless units have already been replaced by SPS to be able to handle 110V as well), but also holding the power strips going to the BCR2000 and FCB1010. For this reason, they are tied together with the MIDI/USB cables respectively. And of course, cables are tied together, in case of those which need to be extended by refastening velcro ones. 4. A FIRST PERFORMANCE TEST: ========================== For a first performance test known to many here as being hard to fulfil, I chose the Rick Walker International Live Looping Festival Challenge: You come onto a stage where you find two cables leading to the board, one power socket and a table. You need to be ready in 30 minutes. Everything over that will eat into your allowed performance time. In a first attempt (not practised or rehearsed), I came out at 9:02. Yes, that's right! I did it more than 20 minutes under the target. Now, can this be improved? Of course, there's the option to practice a little and perhaps bring it down to a little over eight minutes. However, another question would be if (and how) the process can be put in parallel. The quick answer: yes, it can. You're albe to have one (instructed) person boot the computer, set up computer (yes, in that order), faderbox and pedalboard and make the connections to the mains, while the performer sets up the trombone and gets his bodypacks ready. By doing so, it's possible to get into the region of 5 minutes for this challenge. What's more, the bodypack attachment/trombone setup tasks can easily be done backstage in advance, so this works even if you're all by yourself. 5. SUMMARY AND OPEN TASKS: ========================== Did it work? As far as I can tell: yes, absolutely! I'm really happy with this solution which really allows for super-fast and hassle-free setup and breakdown. Add to that the fun I gained from using wireless components, and you know I'm a happy little looper. There's not much remaining: choosing which additional parts to bring along. A batch of spare batteries would be nice, and as we're talking about it, it seems that also my video camera (with stand) would still fit in the bag. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 14:14:27 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 868B73BE8D; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 174944758/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.166.120/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.166.120 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am4BAIdw0ElPRqZ4/2dsb2JhbAAIyniDegaHOg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,446,1233532800"; d="scan'208";a="174944758" Message-ID: <49D0D603.3030308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:24:03 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals References: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> <49D0B7EE.6060903@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D0B7EE.6060903@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9iqxO.A.f8E.DPN0JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:14:27 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: > > >> Anyway, I told him that I keep a bunch of old used 9 volt batteries >> (in various >> short lengths of time before their battery death) and that , > The resistor you need ...well I don't know what would work best... > ...you could try starting with a 1k log pot then turn the spindle > till the desired artefacts appeared. > > andy > > > > ahh, I guess that's about right:- “put a 5k linear pot in series with the positive terminal to the circuit. that's all you need to simulate a typical dying 9V battery. the resistance range is almost identical to the chemical build-up over time using a pedal that draws around 5mA. if you don't believe me. try it, and then substitute a dead/dying battery and listen for a difference with the pot shorted. batteries can't die without building up series resistance. likewise, the reason for voltage drop is a result of the increased series resistance! i put it to you... the lowering of battery voltage is a result of exactly the same mechanism as increased series resistance. a pot in series with a battery will most certainly simulate the dying of a battery.” – Zachary Vex From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 14:16:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A8613BE9E; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:16:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903300636s6372997ft3229094a17ebff26@mail.gmail.com> References: <49D0BE28.70201@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0903300636s6372997ft3229094a17ebff26@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:10:19 +0200 Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0903300710h69a1e803q8b02702de08071cc@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: loop-friendly venues From: mark francombe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6de00335a0932046656a565 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:16:02 +0000 (UTC) --0016e6de00335a0932046656a565 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Both Rick and Pers excellent comments are of course VERY true!!! And Im not suggesting for a moment that MY humble idea should be anything more than a list of places to START from. RE: Ricks comments, WOW... What a fantastic list... cant beat that really, its of course true that PEOPLE book bands, not clubs. RE: Pers comments, Again VERY true about the "Manager hat" comment. I know that this approach can be very true from the angle of booking gigs, but also when it comes to sending in CDs for review in publications. A "Press Release" from the label works much better than from the band. Even though its often the same thing. But RE: my list. I have for many years thought that a great web 2.0 resourse should be (although I'm not the man to program or release it) is user generated lists of.... well ANYTHING!!! For example, you want a plumber. You find a great one, and you post him in this site under "Plumbers" Someone else comments that they too have a great experience with this guy (he gets 2 stars) someone else later posts that this guy overcharged and made suggesting remarks to your daughter (he loses a star). I would LOVE there to be a worldwide database of great people and places. Afterall, this is the same functionality that started "Lonely Planet" and that everyone uses at Amazon and Harmony Central. Think of my list as a "Snapshot" of now... if you are booking shows NOW, this year. Next year, Im sure its out of date... Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://vimeo.com/user825094 http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe http://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=Synch%20Non%20Synch --0016e6de00335a0932046656a565 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Both Rick and Pers excellent comments are of course VERY true!!! And Im not= suggesting for a moment that MY humble idea should be anything more than a= list of places to START from.

RE: Ricks comments, WOW... What a fa= ntastic list... cant beat that really, its of course true that PEOPLE book = bands, not clubs.
RE: Pers comments, Again VERY true about the "Manager hat" commen= t. I know that this approach can be very true from the angle of booking gig= s, but also when it comes to sending in CDs for review in publications. A &= quot;Press Release" from the label works much better than from the ban= d. Even though its often the same thing.

But RE: my list. I have for many years thought that a great web 2.0 res= ourse should be (although I'm not the man to program or release it) is = user generated lists of.... well ANYTHING!!! For example, you want a plumbe= r. You find a great one, and you post him in this site under "Plumbers= " Someone else comments that they too have a great experience with thi= s guy (he gets 2 stars) someone else later posts that this guy overcharged = and made suggesting remarks to your daughter (he loses a star). I would LOV= E there to be a worldwide database of great people and places. Afterall, th= is is the same functionality that started "Lonely Planet" and tha= t everyone uses at Amazon and Harmony Central.

Think of my list as a "Snapshot" of now... if you are booking= shows NOW, this year. Next year, Im sure its out of date...

Mark--
www.markfrancombe.com<= br> http://vimeo.com/user825094
= http://uk.youtube.com/= user/markfrancombe
= http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
h= ttp://www.looop.no/shop/catlabel.php?q=3DSynch%20Non%20Synch
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= --_79c51e03-279c-4e76-aeb1-7d569557b637_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 15:13:31 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF3183BE8B; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:13:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D0E198.8080702@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:13:28 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Variable Power Supplies for Stomp Box Pedals References: <49D05D7B.2050603@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:13:31 +0000 (UTC) I have a cheap (think it was $15, a few years back) power supply from Radio Shack which allows choice of five different voltages, from 7 - 15 volts if I remember correctly. I found that over-powering an analog delay makes it oscillate much easier. I haven't tried it with a distortion box, but now I think I need to. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 15:20:57 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 509F13BE97; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49D0E356.6070705@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:20:54 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop-friendly venues References: <49D0BE28.70201@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <49D0BE28.70201@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:20:57 +0000 (UTC) In booking my own tours, I've taken advantage both of personal contacts as well as raw lists of venues, and I've found both to be valuable. In fact I find that the venues often are the route to the people. Just the past few weeks, in Denver and Chicago among other cities, emailing a venue prompted them to suggest either other venues or like-minded peeps that are going to be great connections. And I've also found some really enthusiastic people just among the bookers, who hooked me up with a show and are interested in the music besides. The more possible connections the better, be they individuals or actual venues. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Instead, I think it might be a more accurate list to mention the > people who > seem the most committed to this notion of helping live looping artists to > get a gig when they are on tour. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 17:13:48 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AF103BE8D; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:13:03 -0500 Subject: RE: Firewire mystery question Thread-Topic: Firewire mystery question Thread-Index: AcmxMEkXDsCe7GctSimSU2DsC5s1PAAKfhlQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144E8FBA7F22@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <16208.22332.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49D0B88C.2020407@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <49D0B88C.2020407@tiscali.co.uk> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:13:47 +0000 (UTC) FWIW, I fried a $300 motherboard on a camcorder due to a faulty firewire cable, it can happen. Now if I ever have problems with a cable I take it out back and burn it to make sure it doesn't get tossed in the box-o-cables and reused later. Jeff =20 -----Original Message----- From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk]=20 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question L.Angulo wrote: > that would have been nice,however i tried 3 of them 2 being brand new one= s! > cheers > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 sure, but if it was the old one that you tried first, and it had a short, it could have fried your firewire card. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 18:30:49 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7A9E3BE8D; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238437848; bh=4IDFsUQQq7/sXRLzYPhEjwSGp8nCJ81803JeGKRWFJk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rhXbdQTIu2VljbJgJhguQuHwuAAkKQNA4HXbpwNxsSDs9UdmVsavSH6vJFOSc0NJACFufHGttf7ousfh1YI1H/QUR4GtNPrAbcs0V6Z18+ACaKOFGwnYHzQWGA8xTLBJ2+O9soAvoxUWhwm6EIME9cZ/0TWydZ4lSHxuc8ZHv7s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TjEMnAjHkQN5fIrBLG9FfwC+y3aHzRcBLrsmV24WeXKiLlZAe1V5dlPE4vnmmcU/Mv0vaI9ksCC26Zcj3bixrTn0UdrsBV8TSbaKL544lYsrtCYuQT5J5GuysAecSYErmAEu4rul1wVnR75vFM2L7RR5LsvIoLnVwZmGjG1y6eY=; Message-ID: <935129.71385.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: s62Wi70VM1mf.cvlY3Kk1CULlTLkGqfAApyaXqV1dUKHiQWwfRPs5pK3dxsvXkzee6WWOP.slyxeG1buiRO3oMUkPSOcsj6WJXbt.YmoZASH87zldvB7lCyoTD55Dzo65cAaJwxh_wglJppShf4M2BfUZGERTPS7omKOEWwPJqE0Yh2KowSvA3AFjoZuVKJx8g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:30:48 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Anderton book (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1730652203-1238437848=:71385" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:30:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-1730652203-1238437848=:71385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Jeff - I'm intertested in that book Anderton but can't find an exact match = (yeah, I work in a library so I'm a book geek).=A0 Do you mean "The digital= delay handbook" from 1985? =A0 =A0 ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:06 AM Yeah, thats right! I had two Time Machines and a Didgitech IPS 33B. That wi= th a Craig Anderton book "101 uses for a digital delay". I built some of hi= s projects into a passive volume pedal for cv control; sweeping across rang= es and such. If I knew how to make them "tap tempo" I would still use them.= Anyone know how to do that? peace, jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution >=20 > Jeff Duke schrieb: >> Mark, you know what you might be looking for is a Digitech 7.6 sec >> Time Machine. >=20 > This was my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could do miracles at > that time... > Stefan >=20 > -- Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder >=20 >=20 =0A=0A=0A ____________________________________________________________= ______=0AYahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookma= rk your favourite sites. Download it now=0Ahttp://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com. --0-1730652203-1238437848=:71385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Jeff - I'm intertested in that book Anderton but can't find an exact m= atch (yeah, I work in a library so I'm a book geek).  Do you mean "The= digital delay handbook" from 1985?
 
 
ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

---= On Sun, 3/29/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wro= te:

From: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
= Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution
To: Loopers-Delight@loop= ers-delight.com
Received: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:06 AM

Yeah, thats right! I had two Time Machines and a Did= gitech IPS 33B. That with a Craig Anderton book "101 uses for a digital del= ay". I built some of his projects into a passive volume pedal for cv contro= l; sweeping across ranges and such. If I knew how to make them "tap tempo" = I would still use them. Anyone know how to do that?

peace,

je= ff

----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" <stefantiedje@googlemail.co= m>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: S= unday, March 29, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping So= lution


>
> Jeff Duke schrieb:
>> Mark, you kn= ow what you might be looking for is a Digitech 7.6 sec
>> Time Machine.>
> This was my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could do= miracles at
> that time...
> Stefan
>
> -- Les On= des M=E9morielles---------x--
> --_____-----------|-----------|--
= > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()---------= -----
> ----------()----------TJ Shredder
>
>


=0A=0A=0A=0A
Now w= ith a new friend-happy design! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger --0-1730652203-1238437848=:71385-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 18:40:32 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14B643BE8D; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238438431; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=5Lqxr3n3RvbXrfgTX0cp1H8w3F8=; b=Y+8+xzRKB7gLqf+nmqx6gsOxmfKUKVk76/ekWq+cpQD+TlDvY1iM8BrB4QR69rYR xi9ivNI3grzUzA1iAtSTL2c6ulWFxvI0JP1atHd3Ix0b9Q9hd3TsNKGRY/ooN9TJ; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jqH85KgXNnIA:10 a=G-vo_icy-30A:10 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=VAgFt1IRqxNNXPw6togA:9 a=tjDu7BN-pYwDgIgLyMZxRauKHN4A:4 a=wCaoJTriV0sA:10 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=kMxnFmGblyUw1srVbs0A:9 a=x1v0Ea0NaOnRcJka6M8A:7 a=7U7fE1PQW9aVRw4OvXYTEeO0QQIA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=esGTtd_TmNIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000a01c9b167$00376cf0$c8c7e843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <935129.71385.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Anderton book (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:40:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B145.78B35C10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:40:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B145.78B35C10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes, that would be it. I no longer have it. He has a new version out but = he told me he had taken out the cv stuff. If you find a copy let me = know, I would like to buy another. I think the 100 uses or whatever was = a subtitle perhaps. 1985 was about right. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ditch wrestler=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Anderton book (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) Jeff - I'm intertested in that book Anderton but can't find an = exact match (yeah, I work in a library so I'm a book geek). Do you mean = "The digital delay handbook" from 1985? ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:06 AM Yeah, thats right! I had two Time Machines and a Didgitech IPS = 33B. That with a Craig Anderton book "101 uses for a digital delay". I = built some of his projects into a passive volume pedal for cv control; = sweeping across ranges and such. If I knew how to make them "tap tempo" = I would still use them. Anyone know how to do that? peace, jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" = To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution >=20 > Jeff Duke schrieb: >> Mark, you know what you might be looking for is a Digitech = 7.6 sec >> Time Machine. >=20 > This was my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could do = miracles at > that time... > Stefan >=20 > -- Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder >=20 >=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Now with a new friend-happy design! Try the new Yahoo! Canada Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B145.78B35C10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
yes, that would be it. I no longer have = it. He has=20 a new version out but he told me he had taken out the cv stuff. If you = find a=20 copy let me know, I would like to buy another. I think the 100 uses or = whatever=20 was a subtitle perhaps. 1985 was about right.
 
Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ditch=20 wrestler
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 = 2:30=20 PM
Subject: Anderton book (was: = Least Costly=20 Live Looping Solution)

 
Jeff - I'm intertested in that book Anderton but can't find = an=20 exact match (yeah, I work in a library so I'm a book = geek).  Do you=20 mean "The digital delay handbook" from 1985?
 
 
ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner=20 Herzog

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Su= bject:=20 Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Sunday, March = 29,=20 2009, 10:06 AM

Yeah, thats right! I had two Time = Machines and a=20 Didgitech IPS 33B. That with a Craig Anderton book "101 uses = for a=20 digital delay". I built some of his projects into a passive = volume=20 pedal for cv control; sweeping across ranges and such. If I = knew how=20 to make them "tap tempo" I would still use them. Anyone know = how to do=20 that?

peace,

jeff

----- Original Message = -----=20 From: "Stefan Tiedje" <stefantiedje@googlemail.co= m>
To:=20 <Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com>
Sent:=20 Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Least Costly = Live=20 Looping Solution


>
> Jeff Duke=20 schrieb:
>> Mark, you know what you might be looking = for is a=20 Digitech 7.6 sec
>> Time Machine.
>
> = This was=20 my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could do miracles = at
>=20 that time...
> Stefan
>
> -- Les Ondes=20 M=E9morielles---------x--
>=20 --_____-----------|-----------|--
> --(_|_=20 ----|\-----|-----()-------
> --=20 _|_)----|-----()--------------
> = ----------()----------TJ=20 Shredder
>
>=20


Now with a new friend-happy design! Try the new Yahoo! Canada=20 Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C9B145.78B35C10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 18:49:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A748E3BE8F; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1238438941; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=NKJoaoQU16yWTJHjmNVN2xkFTYI=; b=L7uZS/LVvFwfPtGqB+J1S15ckAe6MkgoZEZAu6QlywhQ5TS+p9NSaK7jb0M8oK2d T/dTpTNCZQazMQJ7Rj4BB4ThTYfsKyrsZPY+7OkOiMcpmH73v7yOuFjCQBLFbV5i; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jqH85KgXNnIA:10 a=G-vo_icy-30A:10 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=mK_AVkanAAAA:8 a=FQ9GeaeVqZzE9flRtmgA:9 a=5MEosSlWiwEN-n11hDlJi-lpc8gA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=hfMOuKFDpboA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=9xyTavCNlvEA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=o7byHzwym308wC_0BhUA:7 a=uxTVKbkgRfMc16YjBCy7RueaxTEA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 a=esGTtd_TmNIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000d01c9b168$3011d540$c8c7e843@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <935129.71385.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000a01c9b167$00376cf0$c8c7e843@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Anderton book (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 14:48:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9B146.A8976150" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:49:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9B146.A8976150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I see now that it is availiable used all over. http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Delay-Handbook-Craig-Anderton/dp/0825624142= No pic but I am sure this is it. used 4$ + shipping. j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Anderton book (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) yes, that would be it. I no longer have it. He has a new version out = but he told me he had taken out the cv stuff. If you find a copy let me = know, I would like to buy another. I think the 100 uses or whatever was = a subtitle perhaps. 1985 was about right. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ditch wrestler=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:30 PM Subject: Anderton book (was: Least Costly Live Looping Solution) Jeff - I'm intertested in that book Anderton but can't find an = exact match (yeah, I work in a library so I'm a book geek). Do you mean = "The digital delay handbook" from 1985? ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jeff Duke wrote: From: Jeff Duke Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Received: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:06 AM Yeah, thats right! I had two Time Machines and a Didgitech = IPS 33B. That with a Craig Anderton book "101 uses for a digital delay". = I built some of his projects into a passive volume pedal for cv control; = sweeping across ranges and such. If I knew how to make them "tap tempo" = I would still use them. Anyone know how to do that? peace, jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" = To: Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:10 PM Subject: Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution >=20 > Jeff Duke schrieb: >> Mark, you know what you might be looking for is a = Digitech 7.6 sec >> Time Machine. >=20 > This was my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could = do miracles at > that time... > Stefan >=20 > -- Les Ondes M=E9morielles---------x-- > --_____-----------|-----------|-- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()----------TJ Shredder >=20 >=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Now with a new friend-happy design! Try the new Yahoo! Canada = Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9B146.A8976150 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I see now that it is availiable used = all=20 over.
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Delay-Handbook-Craig-Anderton/dp/= 0825624142
No pic but I am sure this is it. used = 4$ +=20 shipping.
 
j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jeff=20 Duke
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 = 2:40=20 PM
Subject: Re: Anderton book = (was: Least=20 Costly Live Looping Solution)

yes, that would be it. I no longer = have it. He=20 has a new version out but he told me he had taken out the cv stuff. If = you=20 find a copy let me know, I would like to buy another. I think the 100 = uses or=20 whatever was a subtitle perhaps. 1985 was about right.
 
Jeff
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 ditch=20 wrestler
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 = 2:30=20 PM
Subject: Anderton book (was: = Least=20 Costly Live Looping Solution)

 
Jeff - I'm intertested in that book Anderton but can't = find an=20 exact match (yeah, I work in a library so I'm a book = geek).  Do=20 you mean "The digital delay handbook" from 1985?
 
 
ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner=20 Herzog

--- On Sun, 3/29/09, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:

From:=20 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
Su= bject:=20 Re: Least Costly Live Looping Solution
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Received: Sunday, = March 29,=20 2009, 10:06 AM

Yeah, thats right! I had two Time = Machines and=20 a Didgitech IPS 33B. That with a Craig Anderton book "101 = uses for a=20 digital delay". I built some of his projects into a passive = volume=20 pedal for cv control; sweeping across ranges and such. If I = knew how=20 to make them "tap tempo" I would still use them. Anyone know = how to=20 do that?

peace,

jeff

----- Original = Message=20 ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" <stefantiedje@googlemail.co= m>
To:=20 <Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com>
Sent:=20 Sunday, March 29, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Least Costly = Live=20 Looping Solution


>
> Jeff Duke=20 schrieb:
>> Mark, you know what you might be = looking for is=20 a Digitech 7.6 sec
>> Time Machine.
> =
> This=20 was my first looper, together with a SPX 90 I could do = miracles=20 at
> that time...
> Stefan
>
> -- = Les Ondes=20 M=E9morielles---------x--
>=20 --_____-----------|-----------|--
> --(_|_=20 ----|\-----|-----()-------
> --=20 _|_)----|-----()--------------
> = ----------()----------TJ=20 Shredder
>
>=20


Now with a new friend-happy design! Try the new Yahoo! Canada=20 Messenger ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C9B146.A8976150-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 19:20:43 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9B3B3BE8C; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Sjaak" To: Subject: RE: Mainstage and midi channels Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:20:28 +0200 Message-ID: <002f01c9b16c$9677aea0$050313ac@PIPO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcmxJ5ZJkE2n8idhQaGLFHFT51zg9wAROU+w In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903300406j5be7a32fhde4c098fc6d5a8b0@mail.gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel 20001; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:20:43 +0000 (UTC) > MIDI Pipe is an excellent freeware for OS X that does MIDI > patching PRE software. I tried it out in order to create a > bunch virtual MIDI Ports and that worked fine. In MIDI Pipe > you can filter the physically incoming MIDI and direct it to > specific virtual MIDI ports. Then it is a breeze in Mainstage > to fetch data from only certain chose inputs. Fantastic! Thanks Per, I think this is what I need --- Sjaak http://sjaakovergaauw.com/ http://euroloopfest.com/ http://last.fm/music/sjaak+overgaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 19:39:35 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336AF3BE97; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238441974; bh=sVToNHSytELJL66N3iUl5gIgmRKyFmXSZYotnY4EFnE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yJhHKs4wIAcp/roLw3IqtCdX4IJpAks95TO5rqgHVvyUMapmQVkVs25Jdn+UHTe/QbZLYhlrTwVjeIDqCpBq83LdpL5nSD3qhoard9R8vYsKk66Rv3VnUwhhlumjViJTy3dIIWLeot6Eiq7gmwSeoK+OEe+e5vo6lqMmvTOGTV8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=0GC6EE4g5wXCbz2mbCjimlLACeLxyL4mAd7wIGpcXVwPLWJFQhAYk7+FuqzG70Q1U20201vn+t8RumlcaRQ1vIz48B8ac76OSxRvKhgNfsF0+bvIQgSP9UWQIj8HO8buMeX6xsYrWlB4tv/M35of/cE0kTVmcd0Yiy2TiNnB/Z4=; Message-ID: <331592.44477.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JG3Es50VM1mFtVp0P7DUTMFlhFyLH67MsLQ03vTdnrfivzsaAq8WL7PiGXoa0NDqNoavGoRYJAJA_L8q2_28hRhEKZZh1Bsmn6OjYNQ34DaVYQc5.hc9Bn24Ybqrpvn.5CsRvcFDA2Qs7_Iuk.0MWf1KFbzplsmPIcgnD5ootN7WT7n73mFyilSpykXk7Wp5VhI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:39:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: RE: Firewire mystery question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:39:35 +0000 (UTC) ups thanx for telling me Jeff!!=0A=0A=0Awww.myspace.com/luisangulocom=0A=0A= =0A--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Jeff Larson wrote:=0A= =0A> From: Jeff Larson =0A> Subject: RE: Firewir= e mystery question=0A> To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" =0A> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 10:13 AM=0A> = =0A> FWIW, I fried a $300 motherboard on a camcorder due to a=0A> faulty=0A= > firewire cable, it can happen.=A0 Now if I ever have=0A> problems=0A> wit= h a cable I take it out back and burn it to make sure=0A> it doesn't get to= ssed in the box-o-cables and reused=0A> later.=0A> =0A> Jeff=0A> =0A> =0A>= -----Original Message-----=0A> From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.= co.uk]=0A> =0A> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:18 AM=0A> To: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com=0A> Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question=0A> =0A> L= .Angulo wrote:=0A> > that would have been nice,however i tried 3 of them 2= =0A> being brand new ones!=0A> > cheers=0A> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom= =0A> > =0A> > =0A> =0A> sure, but if it was the old one that you tried firs= t, and=0A> it had a short,=0A> it could have fried your firewire card.=0A> = =0A> =0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 30 19:46:41 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 781B93BEA2; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:46:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238442400; bh=DDvDRmnXfLyr56xbnj1XQaadtOmh20fmUfszZNo9iFI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yvScYSmSFsr+XTFnfGcZy8z3uZ6pjD761xw16I/aDRZgJqtMe2cDfRDy7WtnaEVYyqT/RPw6VnFmajEAf0IDvb65+J1flCDLhrIy9F+f/ytOkxAYyVDfo6vq8jxWuadmOmLYJiA91fHNxKYqsjntfMfrmM9tmgbsofAIUS1mO2s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5+m9ISATvy203thXiI6BQEFru+Iu/iw2mf084roBM8LdvXqoqhKA2nFDdHo1JKzg3D6jDY2QWTkvJbhD7mFQiUvphYCgOzAsUhkWjUIXGLsZhxyyzPAUg1GxtKE3tEfpJ4sD7NSjRlS5FBP/EzRQZncjg55Mn8aH5TdxdtNloqI=; Message-ID: <362531.47353.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7OnYq74VM1ki4uyo3ineGaXczUzr5yBetl8LrRa4v86ZAgMatyYbNqI0rRi8Xqp3JkcMrlXad.Yw2GqleJi5CufgF91I4prDw0agrYYTH.CJ6ZBgKxhf7Uf5LONKZvsJqyYb._4tLiwoQwTY3i3Nwg99D9PwlAVsMfp0QsSi4jIw1PsYzZPgWPbTJ8skodfRwh36lknOTAjFQLGx5BHdm9rnsQgUaHUlQFAxoOg- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:46:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <6sbPLC.A.qJF.hGS0JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 19:46:41 +0000 (UTC) oh shit thanx Andy,i didnt know a cable could do that how can i try it now without burning something? u are right there is one i havent retried and after u telling me this i dont think i want to, i just had my macbook back repaired!any way to test the cable? oh god this is getting really scary think ill go back to my EDP! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/30/09, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Firewire mystery question > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 5:18 AM > L.Angulo wrote: > > that would have been nice,however i tried 3 of them 2 > being brand new ones! > > cheers > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > sure, but if it was the old one that you tried first, and > it had a short, > it could have fried your firewire card. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 03:35:08 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC6863BE7C; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:35:06 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238470106; bh=vZAd3RGgDcFD+CmTe+YtLTVFVgpqmpfbgNTfIS7ueJg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BxGIdGYSxGdVTg81GvZDp2dP+HGE8BK5P0OeXRaAJy/HBc8ZVJZqaoMMKbKEnBjlrXJvDHoT1JnIXTcJ7Ml2bnKePBsYLlqCLVFV/L0uW5kjyfhDCXA6DrAnkQfaqQFg9zTLJp7NwTnA1BUYGz9PQPA3IuX2W3ZVyKol80jqENI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vr4t83gyDs5AQM8GYdDO0MIyGX5DNP/csuFwjtKd+ryiWmVN6PQkzztSj3L2NOoqm7ubpFelEpybVSAJ0RiY2FE+cub4ufhQFArBe3MmDBOFEWTjrvPLhSoGNxkE3xF4j+FpqF5UcPxEjjPbZMDPRFDH5Epyo8bzP0e2WvmnyzU=; Message-ID: <111828.21743.qm@web52805.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GlCQ6L4VM1mbXUOFL981FW.FCskilLxikcrAWWh2EB.lwqJQqMj8lYICvNsbgyMwmVFeDTF58WtstCXwNhPiT0j3_jDitAuE7SIhun72KXLgw2va1L3PcuNzmISwufPNmYkPZHRZbyCTjB0OBnt01AFE6fOYdLvvKzzyk2OI51j368eUwDqKc.Jjl8nZbYfj1FgEwcj9wmFFR1V6HI8tR5ezVgr331POWYvgNKhg.2Z965.NmnSjPME8bpVSBYyaUl1JR9DhyVLG5jowVDZLxPoaIHwja8IXWjq3fPZ4PrD217zKR64Vhynl X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <855188.61738.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60903291226j10298ed1o1515a210773df9b8@mail.gmail.com> <000701c9b0b9$47c1c790$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 20:28:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Candc Hoffman/Traxler Subject: Re: Electric Mandolin Slicer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000701c9b0b9$47c1c790$cb04c150@yourc9d9764718> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1828981114-1238470106=:21743" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 03:35:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-1828981114-1238470106=:21743 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You got me! ;) ________________________________ From: Stephen Moyes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:56:57 PM Subject: Electric Mandolin Slicer Any electric mandolin players here will want one of these. (I hope the link works) http://tiny.cc/o6bcZ --0-1828981114-1238470106=:21743 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
You got me! ;)

From: Stephen Moyes <stephenmoyes@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 2:56:57 PM
Subject: Electric Mandolin Slicer

Any electric mandolin players here will want one of these. (I hope the link works)

http://tiny.cc/o6bcZ


--0-1828981114-1238470106=:21743-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 08:00:59 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F38B3BE73; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:00:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oOgcuWMA7tJ3T+SaJGGkQZG+vYgjsb/mtjuFS+iaDXI=; b=CPsg2lIibt0Y/aMkAkTWZ1ECb/ej630J6jrI3f6y3l0xP3Z284qCrTNrqzB8uwIU6K ok1r430XGzeFbxGINLDVTJLidKwJbmkm8ry8xoH+obiCcKVSitmmiFgYFLut7z6nReVi bmdCeGICDmEM1/QPGWt7clYjXWVk5bCeFo1fk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=jG1U/GvSn68GGparvPg5dBkRKjEPdY3VtSiVjfViKaSoE9iv2e/e39/9GeFIPmL3Iv zbxEY+JKHamUjZbYJq0QyC1OfWsq5JZo9GO/dupeXcUMGP/bXvJ6kKTGaLXIaZCN76Mj W5ka7kRg4PKLeKGdsTAqnUJVor0gqOBaGfd2k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:00:58 +0200 Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0903310100ub257ed3w4264fe4334bb4e19@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Indie Music Newsletter (was: Loop Friendly Venues) From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:00:59 +0000 (UTC) The latest Indie Music Newsletter just popped down my inbox. Anyone with interest in independent music promotion can check out the source here: http://www.bigmeteor.com/newsletter/mar2009.shtml Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se www.perboysen.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 10:58:53 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C7763BE7F; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:58:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:date:received:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Bvtu40Jc8b3AcYc002JT97ikTp1hW1BfdEklDR1YFzU=; b=bf4CXp1pC7SXbTtLxdTcOrbPWIUvj2YxHGcnopPB/JhAyI4B+sbgGQujXRFgONdcls Cz2lSS6Ll1XLUsDGDylVvCdfkv85VPAEBiODvIJnLFy6nlISt/B9CbmyUn1Ywz6x+QWE 38XZGgPqetQ7XgQSjJiNrDBC0J+qlK0BvJM4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=v8tCO+ryZ4kh3eE4mYnPtw+EXw0Gf4N0MUGSI9vNkiB8D0F5Vvjju8JtdOC/97rK7R XhksjAtEkjdxUGQN6wVse9f3Xdpyo9PLwaKv+HHdovH+eXEMHdJ3kpB8HyoJtrOpBNdK oTPi5/VfLMAxD1j7cmM87/g82MvOjSCFQe3XE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:33:51 +0100 Message-ID: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Songs starting with drums From: Cameron McCormack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5b1fa1be0f7046667bd79 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:58:53 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5b1fa1be0f7046667bd79 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, This has to have been a topic before now but didn't have any joy in the archive. I've started to try and put a few songs together looping bass, rhythm and lead parts together on my Digitech JamMan. It's all good fun, but it sounds sort of empty without any drums. The JamMan has a few simple click tracks, but they're only any good for keeping time, and they don't become a part of the saved loop. I'm lacking a drum machine and have no intention of buying one at his stage, so what i've done is taken songs that start with just a few bars of drums on their own, cut that out in a WAV editor, made a little drum loop and ported that to the JamMan to play over that. It works pretty well for my ears. So, my question is - does anybody have suggestions of songs that would be good for carry out this process on? Drums on their own, no other instruments. All I've found after a brief look at my own music is Iggy Pop - Lust for Life and Led Zep - Bonzo's Montreux. --001636c5b1fa1be0f7046667bd79 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks,

This has to have been a topic before now but didn't ha= ve any joy in the archive.

I've started to try and put a few son= gs together looping bass, rhythm and lead parts together on my Digitech Jam= Man. It's all good fun, but it sounds sort of empty without any drums. = The JamMan has a few simple click tracks, but they're only any good for= keeping time, and they don't become a part of the saved loop.

I'm lacking a drum machine and have no intention of buying one at h= is stage, so what i've done is taken songs that start with just a few b= ars of drums on their own, cut that out in a WAV editor, made a little drum= loop and ported that to the JamMan to play over that. It works pretty well= for my ears.

So, my question is - does anybody have suggestions of songs that would = be good for carry out this process on? Drums on their own, no other instrum= ents.

All I've found after a brief look at my own music is Iggy = Pop - Lust for Life and Led Zep - Bonzo's Montreux.


--001636c5b1fa1be0f7046667bd79-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 11:05:01 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 943C53BE7F; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nQ7d2RMtv4PBtobbVddtoEp1nvLfdR1Mz7rtnpRBNvQ=; b=XYlMTGITckuOSNcoOwVekxRWMoRzRXl8gpWNyw6FgyMRsFn3FO/IDnbuW5BPdM3tdR YWK8dfb6zkGbCypolGba2EzTlwrP7DrM3NgVnrxBSj4nKIbX1/t0iMDJhDoSp9sP8WY9 QqWmH8GO6fX73KqQSzdzSryKhsPiE5sSJhSR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=w4i/JFiPfNqHGDiYGP+LD22eUhORMNfNHE/L0flwXMQKUOM0kGj2GJ31hFGg39OEAu VNjsdh8jsVEYOzdY57nvG0DS1kGqeew4zRdU0OvamIjJwRRkz0QAbIwxlusvqN8BmFd5 1JhJN0a3a0PfFMTJHnOzwa+vyGmm8aLGczDtw= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com In-Reply-To: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:04:59 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 68077b97daaad529 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Os To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:05:01 +0000 (UTC) what you want is http://www.mhat.com/phatdrumloops/ cheers, os. 2009/3/31 Cameron McCormack : > Hi folks, > > This has to have been a topic before now but didn't have any joy in the > archive. > > I've started to try and put a few songs together looping bass, rhythm and > lead parts together on my Digitech JamMan. It's all good fun, but it sounds > sort of empty without any drums. The JamMan has a few simple click tracks, > but they're only any good for keeping time, and they don't become a part of > the saved loop. > > I'm lacking a drum machine and have no intention of buying one at his stage, > so what i've done is taken songs that start with just a few bars of drums on > their own, cut that out in a WAV editor, made a little drum loop and ported > that to the JamMan to play over that. It works pretty well for my ears. > > So, my question is - does anybody have suggestions of songs that would be > good for carry out this process on? Drums on their own, no other > instruments. > > All I've found after a brief look at my own music is Iggy Pop - Lust for > Life and Led Zep - Bonzo's Montreux. > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 12:01:46 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15D123BE85; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XSU9XHGRn4q+ksEbO/ZK5woAja6NoRiodRqndmeoNsM=; b=kBwZLq5dBLCL91F0THNmrADDPawzMGp1C0FJCohFaRnqtuz5ZNdqo5rpan83O8fPeC oz7FgxNNjpM0pCIOPx/OcOA8+Vdsf2iDpX4yeP6sdTy7HgD+mE1CTFfAzNv3P4c1Q1mm SSgjIAVLwDUv+d3Wns6z47votP5RmZfiH1Nfo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oofU1X1XzJ4sUKFHI1WDbXXhPIG8WHYRfQyrpAaux1UF9nGZnhdUAOoptB2clciNNe z1dxujQLHw1RfbIMTJU5kkXR7AsSR3DP4WKZhEtmJCo8WInRDZVjmsz/VBzLDlKeiZKQ j6wao3K83TSOfWYizbFUXUcvKWUVIUhBQXyEU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 07:54:31 -0400 Message-ID: <2871c3a90903310454g3128e4b7y19818a8c3108e8ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Sylvain Poitras To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d0918a74243046668dc19 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:01:45 +0000 (UTC) --0015175d0918a74243046668dc19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sing Sing Sing has tons of cool solo drums, in fact a lot of jazz albums feature drum solos that could be looped. May not be what you're after... Sylvain On 3/31/09, Os wrote: > > what you want is > > http://www.mhat.com/phatdrumloops/ > > > cheers, > os. > > > 2009/3/31 Cameron McCormack : > > Hi folks, > > > > This has to have been a topic before now but didn't have any joy in the > > archive. > > > > I've started to try and put a few songs together looping bass, rhythm and > > lead parts together on my Digitech JamMan. It's all good fun, but it > sounds > > sort of empty without any drums. The JamMan has a few simple click > tracks, > > but they're only any good for keeping time, and they don't become a part > of > > the saved loop. > > > > I'm lacking a drum machine and have no intention of buying one at his > stage, > > so what i've done is taken songs that start with just a few bars of drums > on > > their own, cut that out in a WAV editor, made a little drum loop and > ported > > that to the JamMan to play over that. It works pretty well for my ears. > > > > So, my question is - does anybody have suggestions of songs that would be > > good for carry out this process on? Drums on their own, no other > > instruments. > > > > All I've found after a brief look at my own music is Iggy Pop - Lust for > > Life and Led Zep - Bonzo's Montreux. > > > > > > > > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ > > --0015175d0918a74243046668dc19 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sing Sing Sing has tons of cool solo drums, in fact a lot of jazz albu= ms feature drum solos that could be looped.=A0 May not be what you're a= fter...
Sylvain
=A0

=A0
On 3/31/09, = Os <os@collective.co.uk&g= t; wrote:
what you want is

http://www.mhat.com/phatdrumloops/<= /a>


cheers,
os.


2009/3/31 Cameron McCormack <cameron.mccormack@googlemail.c= om>:
> Hi folks,
>
> This has to have been a topic= before now but didn't have any joy in the
> archive.
>
> I've started to try and put a few songs t= ogether looping bass, rhythm and
> lead parts together on my Digitech= JamMan. It's all good fun, but it sounds
> sort of empty without= any drums. The JamMan has a few simple click tracks,
> but they're only any good for keeping time, and they don't bec= ome a part of
> the saved loop.
>
> I'm lacking a dru= m machine and have no intention of buying one at his stage,
> so what= i've done is taken songs that start with just a few bars of drums on > their own, cut that out in a WAV editor, made a little drum loop and p= orted
> that to the JamMan to play over that. It works pretty well fo= r my ears.
>
> So, my question is - does anybody have suggestio= ns of songs that would be
> good for carry out this process on? Drums on their own, no other
&g= t; instruments.
>
> All I've found after a brief look at my= own music is Iggy Pop - Lust for
> Life and Led Zep - Bonzo's Mo= ntreux.
>
>
>



--
os@collective.co.uk
http://www.darkroomtheband.net/
http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/


--0015175d0918a74243046668dc19-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 13:18:18 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E92A03BE75; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zWIZoOzTDNr7ycp2AiyeUVY+PXDUIC18rrpzWlQoEec=; b=mexI8W2dhdTeJ7w5aySK2Bps9QPOup8S9bWZ5M066thMZj7eLZYe/Lb1VHDJb/bvSh K9vAFnwk0H+MhAS9fEw7URhld4JZOoieARGhDiroWqWmTd3No/Jv29cPM2I/W7jB2Yyn He+msDsgoW2p2KVz27y3Gh1XXJCjneDgGzy1I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Ignc7hfe9a82r3nslLHhxOb+dUz0k7YB//cJHcLjpxEFnlTEWrW1WQjyACHej92ZZf HrJs/YlvhlVDiZL15Y1N6KZ6qWglbZhoAnkdIUMsFdXGLeCrUePbK49qFU3yx7LGn+EE wdCifn/4m2aQTQPi02d0OTrYWxbMzUAD9HrDY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:18:01 +0100 Message-ID: <83de5a8a0903310618p6d7a4c02nacee39868ea356e7@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Cameron McCormack To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5a9b12a443404666a08d5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:18:17 +0000 (UTC) --001636c5a9b12a443404666a08d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >what you want is > http://www.mhat.com/phatdrumloops/ Yup, you're right - that is EXACTLY what I was looking for! Cheers os! >Sing Sing Sing has tons of cool solo drums, in fact a lot of jazz albums feature drum solos that could be looped. >May not be what you're after... Might not be, but then again might be, I'll give it a try, cheers Sylvian. --001636c5a9b12a443404666a08d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >what you want is
> http://www.mhat.com/phatdrumloops/


Yup, you're right - that is EXACTLY what I was looking for!
Cheers os!



>Sing Sing Sing has tons of cool solo drums, in fact a lot of jazz albums feature drum solos that could be looped.
>May not be what you're after...



Might not be, but then again might be, I'll give it a try, cheers Sylvian.

--001636c5a9b12a443404666a08d5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 13:33:28 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ABB03BE77; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:33:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=LwubLSRvkAnaBwO1+a8ic54RH905Dbuqo1m9q8H15es=; b=S+LEcAv627HTopsFxiL+hQln1XFnV9oDyfFNuEkjpBH9bIbJ+Lg/zN5dXvjVWnsAg9 iN49CSjgThRhKfwmU/iBErgXmvJXA1ghG+saflV0ZZKZdJWeyMfKiNV35N1/3UmK1f/P uEbSiHqaclarC6WimRGPB4yCjFGDtX//xubH0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=R9Z0Bf18TXjDbstr3dyQ7x3gIbYAnuJc/ilvuu5s2LKcYrOlTmbFJ3BTf1IQLJqVxD 2cBVA3Bm1T2NUO+RdQvIczDF9kMH+EVdERP9z5Uihtfd+vvRHr+drT0fCy9+hisl77/B u7Yh0VolatxiQWNGzMEHlMNAEM20jfpmN0Q3E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83de5a8a0903310618p6d7a4c02nacee39868ea356e7@mail.gmail.com> References: <83de5a8a0903310333p276cbed8qc4201732ac37b3b1@mail.gmail.com> <83de5a8a0903310618p6d7a4c02nacee39868ea356e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:33:26 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums From: Tony K To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:33:28 +0000 (UTC) You might want to look at some of the drum machine programs out there. Like Hammerhead, Tuareg, DrumFlow, or orDrumbox. On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Cameron McCormack wrote: >>what you want is >> http://www.mhat.com/phatdrumloops/ > > > Yup, you're right - that is EXACTLY what I was looking for! > Cheers os! > > > >>Sing Sing Sing has tons of cool solo drums, in fact a lot of jazz albums >> feature drum solos that could be looped. >>May not be what you're after... > > > > Might not be, but then again might be, I'll give it a try, cheers Sylvian. > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 13:41:13 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60A3E3BE85; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18401.69.73.1238506872.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <24347.72.22.1238364855.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <66f9cc1e0903300149q24cea27dsbf3400dc1dd38c3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:41:12 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Spacey Plugins (vst) for Bass and Guitar From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <6i7p8C.A.lT.51h0JB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Per and Krispen, I'll check up on them this weekend. Andre On Mon, March 30, 2009 10:18 am, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > PSP 84 > Space Effect > Antares Filter > Reaktor as VST (tons of great spacey patches) > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 13:57:39 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B1123BE75; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 487 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:57:39 UTC Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:49:33 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1856741283.2204021238507373195.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2871c3a90903310454g3128e4b7y19818a8c3108e8ad@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_106684_989585893.1238507373194" X-Originating-IP: [170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.11_GA_2730.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.11_GA_2730.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:57:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_106684_989585893.1238507373194 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit She Has Funny Cars , on Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow album ------=_Part_106684_989585893.1238507373194 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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------=_Part_106684_989585893.1238507373194-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 16:26:40 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B0473BE79; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.31 at arsenic; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:26:39 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1238516399; bh=85aWEh9TWLA0BXr9RiTAsk/HdtCXkVOn3/row/ptiAo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EQe/JIMEHOCMmaIedQ34vM5CNfPtIDmzjk6iVNNi21JxKrO+SEdcpn/x6QxXztSZBdVvjnb+quQEKKXAjP937zcigrSotgainhle3FS3o6ebyaIKX3cJZ75Kni3g0TxpDVgBoIw58kyz4vLA38si2ZwryYC/eugv3iNsyXERP/k= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JqG8/woilKBJWg1rxWOuXS82JQoTjZasvvGq+/1JqpdPRPcD4lUDUIAkn5tfWcEfdsc1xiBZGDNmWf57gqmlpblezorLlRF6gayTInDZaXf22HhO/FunPpDAftubjFupkmaJ8GJuCy0E+ISQo6AAYh4IiT5es8/BpUOU6KxDD34=; Message-ID: <362811.83479.qm@web87108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KZRMNwQVM1lWlOxh3zhiClZv_uYPUfFUHQHqlBzUUBukpFMhskO4zXAWsumDBcjNv5mECxoqkO7o5cRgcTJkVgqtq1cSQR6fP3vGgm_NJMJA9l5dpTSsfRRg02_Gj.FMV9DLIIpz8Ided2KfMbS078K84Yy34M99id81AHae0vhSimWu2r3Axfow8WsAASWC8KNN9Wv3FzaHjAwHFVHWRI6SbSnjGq7WDWD2rWECJU5asVJItMsSn48atjVPXKSYRxHTo_Jb5Do0oAmGMW.X9Z2I91a473eHKJzIwOrRmjJSyxE5agmhuvozBmY3mIgdnppZfr74SEovHzZ0zZFbTbMyEkM- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:19:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Richard Graham Reply-To: rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com Subject: Re: Looping and Ambisonics To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0903300209t94550d8hb0f7b9c1ac043923@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1479398079-1238516399=:83479" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:26:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-1479398079-1238516399=:83479 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Per. It is great being surrounded by dynamic sound. We're looking at= =20 the guitar polyphonically this evening and should be quite=20 interesting. I'm going to try streaming a rehearsal tonight from STEIM.=20 Probably around=20 9pm GMT via rickygraham.net. Just to see if it works.=20 :) Cheers. Ricky --- On Mon, 30/3/09, Per Boysen wrote: From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Looping and Ambisonics To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, 30 March, 2009, 10:09 AM On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > www.myspace.com/signalsundertests=A0. > > I'd very much appreciate your feedback. Awesome! Very interesting collage style mixing. I had to pause the playback to verify that some very small but beautiful sounds were part of the music and not me overhearing my local neighbors. I can imagine this sounds great in Ambisonics! Per Link for those thirsting for knowledge: http://www.ambisonic.net/ --0-1479398079-1238516399=:83479 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Per. It is great being surrounded by d= ynamic sound. We're looking at=20
the guitar polyphonically this evening and should be quite=20 interesting.

I'm going to try streaming a rehearsal tonight from STE= IM.=20 Probably around
9pm GMT via rickygraham.net. Just to see if it works.= =20 :)

Cheers.

Ricky

--- On Mon, 30/3/09, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Fro= m: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Looping and Ambis= onics
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, 30 March,= 2009, 10:09 AM

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Ricky Graham<=
br><rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com> wrote:
> www.myspace.com/s=
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> I'd very much appreciate your feedb=
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Awesome! Very interesting collage style mixing. I had to pause =
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playback to verify that some very small but beautiful sounds were pa=
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of the music and not me overhearing my local neighbors. I can imagine=

this sounds great in Ambisonics!

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 http://www.ambisonic.net/

--0-1479398079-1238516399=:83479-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 20:21:22 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 025533BE7F; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=42O1DLr/aJCsrruNXwfA4YXFUgihfS6O2TNi7egRLWi1WdOqOor8LtUB+IMtNmTBxE5vx26YerwI4MyhmtZID9nXeS/xjh9GbRg4i6ggelMwKaEfaytlOxRVNw+jbSn9cTUNbAx8sUBkb+ehrGrFOhXnCmmIAs5AZNvIPN/gaAQ=; X-YMail-OSG: OB4.uXQVM1m11Tw1BIPxvyEeF6yrHDd_M6HmRNzwYux1xbe3Qvq4Zoep.jCtX75kDt0J_YhH_lHS43mePrimUZmvHf_L4fFYhQv1c.orReT54UYNFuRN..k9gbPefy7kk76_DTu0BBT9xrtiBj1fJnGdYN9pyxs_5hPIOeiJE4IVJNVmLEeJ4C1Wg0GWRcfPMnUSROi5me_.XjzeFnTIwf4x6JqJnOrTtQPIF__SLWc36w.LyAB2yHzt2lfsxR_pjhOQRbLw1UfbuYy5sclmm8x_cnPbUg5l2_bwwlEMDLo3yMmBKfGwZm4- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <993048.90475.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:21:21 +0000 (UTC) my favorite song by them!! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 3/31/09, Christophe wrote: > From: Christophe > Subject: Re: Songs starting with drums > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, March 31, 2009, 6:49 AM > #yiv1324790204 p > {margin:0;}She Has Funny Cars, on > Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow album > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 31 20:48:03 2009 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D38053BE7C; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238532482; bh=TvZ1QbVp92/xlN+WHFck/PVr7p0CCnpOeAuDtV8a5iY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MDzF9QtjxK5dyt5WEUDVK3/0ZFRbXwiw8H/AiIlzhNDrtfWofkMZZ8CwHgaOiwF/Qg77F/bsSpAd9OlpMAcpGLnAkbGbXf2lmyUQRdgkcfdLECBkIBHKrsWZ0UqZjIz8vz3fjHdDmAqSyr6EDO9g5WsFY7ZJZWwFXgy3O4eDMms= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=jDQ0eD3r3S8z/Dk0bp6pJELLwNVXGDoLTOqXbyou0+WgpOEbqAdTEj4IrbuLv+GGd9l0PaWsLoTOm/QWWMlQ+Rte21EQKjmYj16hZ1ttZlIehQK2lCa4aUqcTBcpWdNsgsUQClrw2iBn4aoHkQ5LXbL5o+k7IyQQvolvZ3h7NcM=; Message-ID: <592181.24631.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: YHJ5kN4VM1l_9UwCiRlWFFBeSYBRQicwSjD_2IfpJY8GtJYIPxSEGHlX6AZt_Xre6LXqZkwcok2SjyeNVuZzCeWDYj7I9XEZ0E7Gr2iDi2IzWiHwejdievRr.SoDIcv2.u4q7Na2DHTsLZcAsecS76ROzqQfGwZR_V16oDh694o6Yfr5NBb9JIwYmjHK6WousrbN.EviSK3e2criwxEAj44t4bkzfxAG_USdBk3o_g_SHLqWf1s2RyW.odMh.IOxR4abUElJqB3Wxq4z9N1KycXZb52fP.X7b6ytRkp6kjyqxuKjrSPlD5c- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 13:48:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Subject: Re: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/90174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Thanx for this info Rainer we need more traveling threads like this! i am not really sure but i thought i read sometime you been changing loopin= g software lately are u using mobius as your main looper? cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Mon, 3/30/09, Rainer Straschill wrote: > From: Rainer Straschill > Subject: Packing a laptop setup (with trombone) into bags > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 7:09 AM > Hi everyone, >=20 > sometime ago (more specifically in February) I asked for a > bag for a > Behringer FCB1010 plus BCR2000 to complete the bag/case > solution for > my current live rig. Now, as time has passed (and I had to > take looks > at different bags), all is ready and completed, and I'd > like you to > know about it. >=20 > Read on for a capturing tale of requirments engineering, > package > partitioning and how this author was able to beat the > prestigious Rick > Walker International Live Looping Festival Challenge in > record time! >=20 > 1. THE REQUIREMENTS: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > The setup is essentially what people were seeing on the > trombone solo > gigs on my MoinSound 2008 World Tour (basically, the BEMF > main > festival and Pasing). The setup is centered around the > noise sources > of trombone and vocals and a laptop (Dell D620) is used > for > processing. > As for the MMI, a Behringer BCR2000 faderbox and the > well-known (and > -hated) FCB1010 are used. > There are, as of now, the following rack-mount components: > a TC > Electronic Konnekt24D audio interface, an AKG WMS 40 > two-channel > wireless receiver (together with fitting bodypacks and > microphones for > vocals and trombone) and a LD Systems MEI100 wireless > in-ear-monitoring system (together with a pair of Sony > in-ears). This > is complemented by a Zoom H2 (for recording). > Of course, there's also a trombone - a Bach Stradivarius > B42 together > with a stand. >=20 > My requirements: > =A0=A0=A0* the system should be wired as > completely as possible when packed. > =A0=A0=A0* setup (and breakdown) time should be > minimized. > =A0=A0=A0* portability so I can carry the entire > thing in one trip. Means > also: lightweight. > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ("portability" also > means "to be carried" - i.e. if going up > a flight of stairs) > =A0=A0=A0* the system should work with both 110 > and 230V power supply. > =A0=A0=A0* being able to withstand airplane > baggage handling is not a > requirement. It's meant for those cases where I drive e.g. > in my car > or on a train and am able to handle the stuff myself, thank > you. >=20 >=20 > 2. PARTITIONING: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > It's obvious that you won't fit everything into one bag, so > some > partitioning was in order. > First of all, putting the trombone in a bag of its own > makes sense > obviously, so I can also take it to an unelectronic gig. I > obtained a > Protec C239: > http://www.protecmusic.com/items.aspx?ProductID=3D60&InstrumentID=3D37&In= strumentGroupID=3D1&CategoryID=3D3&subCategoryID=3D1 >=20 > It's solidly padded, also for the slide compartment, and > has another > long pocket on the other side of the compartment for the > bell, which > not only holds the mouthpiece, shoulder strap, cream etc., > but also > the trombone stand. I also got the accessory shoulder strap > so I can > carry the thing on my back. > It shows that it works well to keep the bodypack/microphone > attached > when packing the trombone. For that, I fitted the bodypack > into a > small pouch, attached that to the pipes of the instrument > and with > that, everything's set. >=20 > The computer and rackmount components are of course best > held in one > of those cases specifically made for this. There are those > which are > for the real rough handling - but come with the downside of > not being > optimized for carrying (e.g. with a shoulder strap), as > this one: > http://www.skbcases.com/music/products/proddetail.php?f=3D&id=3D426&o=3D&= offset=3D1&c=3D102&s=3D78# > However, with a rack depth of 9.5'', this is rather > shallow. Too much? > In my case, yes: the Konnekt24D is 9'' deep - add to that > cables and > it becomes a no-go. >=20 > What I finally selected was this: > http://www.gatorcases.com/productsmodeldetail.aspx?LID=3D25&PID=3D26&MID= =3D384 > Not as sturdy as the SKB item, however with a aluminum-made > rack > frame, it seems sturdy enough (unless put on a plane - this > is true > especially for the laptop pocket, which is merely padded). > Note that when installing, I found that my hestitation > towards the > SKB's depth was not without reason: including power strip, > PSUs and > cables, this rack is completely filled. There is a hole in > between the > rack and the laptop compartment - important to fulfill my > "all cables > have to be in place" requirement. >=20 > With that, the leftover components are: two bodypacks (one > with > headphones, one with headset mike), the Zoom H2, the > BCR2000 and the > FCB1010 - all of which I liked to have in one bag. In the > emails here, > Fabio recommended a Warwick Rockbag to me (thanks, Fabio!), > and > although the item he uses didn't work for me, another one > did: a DJ > bag: > http://www.warwick-distribution.de/?katID=3D19088&cl=3DEN&did=3D1 > (note to self: why is it that we end up using products made > for DJs > all of a sudden? Just the other day, I talked to Per about > a MIDI > faderbox, and he told me about his faderfox, which one > store carried > in the DJ department as well). > Normally meant to hold two CD players and a=A0 DJ mixer, > it works > equally well in its new role. >=20 >=20 > 3. PUTTING IT TOGETHER: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Surprisingly, it worked right from the start. As mentioned, > the > laptop/rack case is totally cramped, but otherwise works > fine. Note > that there's a power distribution strip sitting in this > case, not only > feeding the wireless units, interface and laptop (the PSUs > for the > wireless units have already been replaced by SPS to be able > to handle > 110V as well), but also holding the power strips going to > the BCR2000 > and FCB1010. For this reason, they are tied together with > the MIDI/USB > cables respectively. And of course, cables are tied > together, in case > of those which need to be extended by refastening velcro > ones. >=20 >=20 > 4. A FIRST PERFORMANCE TEST: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D > For a first performance test known to many here as being > hard to > fulfil, I chose the Rick Walker International Live Looping > Festival > Challenge: You come onto a stage where you find two cables > leading to > the board, one power socket and a table. You need to be > ready in 30 > minutes. Everything over that will eat into your allowed > performance > time. > In a first attempt (not practised or rehearsed), I came out > at 9:02. > Yes, that's right! I did it more than 20 minutes under the > target. > Now, can this be improved? >=20 > Of course, there's the option to practice a little and > perhaps bring > it down to a little over eight minutes. However, another > question > would be if (and how) the process can be put in parallel. > The quick > answer: yes, it can. You're albe to have one (instructed) > person boot > the computer, set up computer (yes, in that order), > faderbox and > pedalboard and make the connections to the mains, while the > performer > sets up the trombone and gets his bodypacks ready. By doing > so, it's > possible to get into the region of 5 minutes for this > challenge. > What's more, the bodypack attachment/trombone setup tasks > can easily > be done backstage in advance, so this works even if you're > all by > yourself. >=20 >=20 > 5. SUMMARY AND OPEN TASKS: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D > Did it work? As far as I can tell: yes, absolutely! I'm > really happy > with this solution which really allows for super-fast and > hassle-free > setup and breakdown. Add to that the fun I gained from > using wireless > components, and you know I'm a happy little looper. > There's not much remaining: choosing which additional parts > to bring > along. A batch of spare batteries would be nice, and as > we're talking > about it, it seems that also my video camera (with stand) > would still > fit in the bag. >=20 >=20 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Rainer >=20 > =0A=0A=0A