From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 01:24:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 488EF3BE86; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 01:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RTNvnOd5U/nDOLUBffDzFHgS1Buoklzb75YUUXptRg40/HuSRRXGiv0M7bfz9E74aOVqDkPY2IW7YhEqNRxBuQhXd7IH+JhABu6HiKyPD2JcbFV0Tk/hwSy0qC1xn0jmdbNf7tDtOJr4gDmpvquasYG+PnpxECFbW0VqGKkn4nw=; X-YMail-OSG: f8rbyEkVM1kLC2PYx6Dsjzh3znAt.jfwyrZAbQvjR7fNw4BPHJunY.DslRPqf9Rg9uWaXXagkrQ4ziB2U5nu0i7LGcAr1ZQIlrXvfDWjBxraMFZBOAuvhXjChaZtpH1dPRV_hJaBidCdwYqrjaDcSIZug60- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:24:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <899706.68440.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1isZ0.A.LbH.yEt4IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 01:24:02 +0000 (UTC) yes,u did that yourself? so simple yet very tasteful! I also find the Looerpatives logo on the website simple but nice Bob why is= it not on the hardware?I also liked the blue front panel on the first unit= s! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Matthias Grob wrote: > From: Matthias Grob > Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:27 PM > > > > But i still love hardware,much sexier than stearing at > a laptop and =20 > > dealing with mouses,so if Matthias comes up with a new > hardware =20 > > stereo EDP with better sound quality upgradable and > loop storage and =20 > > new cool functions i am buying one! >=20 > I hope to get there! > > > > oh,and with his beautiful old logo offcourse;-) >=20 > you mean LOOP ? one of the first things I did on my first > mac in =20 > 1990 ;-) > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, mark francombe > wrote: > > > >> From: mark francombe > > >> Subject: Mobius first impressions... and > questions. > >> To: "loopers-delight" > > >> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:59 PM > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> As many of you know from my previous rants aginst > the > >> "laptop loopers" I am > >> a self proclaimed "hardware head" (its a > medical > >> condition you know). > >> > >> But I thought I would write a few notes to the > group > >> regarding my first > >> experiences of.. wait for it, wait for it.... > MOBIUS!!! > >> > >> But first a raison d'=EAtre: I was going to be > at Y2k8, > >> and perform. I was > >> planning a NEW IMPROVED streamlined flight > friendly case, > >> empty of loopers > >> (that I could borrow en situ) but full of... well > my stuff. > >> (synth modules, > >> joysticks, and pitchshiftin, bit crushing > madness.) It was > >> then that it > >> happened, I considered it, for the first time... > laptop... > >> gulp... and > >> mobius... > >> As some of you know I have had to cancel my trip > and > >> performance, cos my > >> better half Hilde has been diagnosed with Cervical > Cancer > >> and we have just > >> started her Radiation and Chemo therapy > yesterday... some > >> things come before > >> looping guys. (and girls...go get them thar smear > tests.. > >> don't walk... > >> run... ) > >> > >> Why have I always been against software, well it > all stems > >> from a period > >> where I only produced music on computer, its was > great... I > >> did 2 maybe > >> three great albums, using predominately Audio > Mulch... I > >> was drawn in by the > >> wealth of possibilities, the infinate versions, > radical mix > >> after radical > >> mix... I dreamt up instruments, then I created > them, in > >> SynthEdit or > >> Reactor, I micro edited samples down at the sample > level, > >> building sounds > >> from scratch, morphing one thing into another, I > made > >> aleatoric systems that > >> played themselves getting their only data from > weather > >> pressure data from an > >> alaskan website, I listened and recorded actual > live police > >> radio from > >> Saracuse, it was a blast!!! > >> > >> But then I added up the amount of hours spent at a > >> computer. As a film-maker > >> as my dayjob, then coming home and using a > computer for > >> fun... I was sat > >> there.. 18 hours a day, in front of the screen. > >> > >> So I went back to the (now dusty rack and modular > synth) > >> and never looked > >> back... until now (Here comes the Mobius stuff for > those > >> that thought this > >> was a Mobius review). > >> > >> I thought.. so what if I just had my guitar and a > >> laptop..(reintroducing the > >> guitar should keep it physical) and so for a mere > 3 hours > >> last night I gave > >> it a go. > >> I was mightily impressed. > >> But not without some reservations. > >> > >> First-up I should say I couldnt get my FCB1010 to > work with > >> it. I should say > >> that I will buy a PC lap and a decent sound/midi > card when > >> I have completely > >> convinced myself, but for now I thought I would > try it out > >> with my M audio > >> Ozone. Imagine my dismay when I went round the > back of the > >> keyboard and > >> looked at "That other midi plug that should > be midi > >> IN"... Oh no.. its > >> something called USB in... not a USB socket, but a > midi > >> plug, not sure what > >> its for, but it aint midi IN... so no pedal power > for > >> now... > >> > >> And I think THAT issue would probably solve all my > >> problems. As everyone > >> knows, you cant loop with a mouse click... > impossible, but > >> I tried, oh and > >> this with the new mac version. I will get a PC do > do this > >> eventually, so I > >> can run it inside Mulch (anyone using Mobius in > Mulch > >> BTW... works?? or??) > >> > >> Sound quality was excellent, I think I probably > have to > >> change the noise > >> floor setting, cos it was writing Overdubs every > loop, even > >> though I wasnt > >> playing anything (that is the same as on the EDP > right...? > >> Dont play, no > >> overdub??) > >> > >> I loved the fact that I could now SEE what was > happening > >> with the overdub > >> layers, with the quantized up-coming commands. > >> > >> I was annoyed by the fact that one track stayed in > Overdub > >> when I switched > >> to another... any need for that? > >> > >> And is it still recording into that first track > while you > >> make a new track? > >> > >> So actually I DIDNT like that it had multiple > tracks, I > >> could use ONE more > >> than the edp... so two... and I like that they are > stereo, > >> but I found > >> myself going to new tracks all the time, like it > was a > >> repeater, and that > >> makes a different kind of music... that is > unweildy and > >> repetative, one that > >> you cant change in a moment cos everything is > spread across > >> tracks... god 4 > >> tracks is too many on the Repeater for me!! > >> > >> None of the speed change or pitch shift things > worked > >> (apart from the EDPish > >> hlfspeed, worked fine) but thats probably a mac > version > >> port thing-soon to > >> be fixed. > >> > >> It distorted quite easily for me after a few > overdubs, prob > >> need to fiddle > >> with gain structure I guess, but I am used to be > able to > >> HIT THE GUITAR!!! > >> and stroke it... > >> > >> LOVED the idea of the track slip thing (is this > the same as > >> on the repeater? > >> Should it slip by cycles, beats.. what?) > unfortunatly that > >> crashed Mobius on > >> my machine... > >> > >> Also LOVED the idea of different presets on each > track. > >> (But needed to > >> figure out how to change the default settings) > Does ANYONE > >> have UN-synched > >> tracks as a default? Why? > >> > >> And seriously intrigued (but not enough time to > try) by the > >> scripts thing. > >> One of my current techniques is to fire a bunch of > midi > >> notes at my EDP from > >> my drum-machine. I regularly have pre worked-out > sequences > >> for example... > >> that overdubs then changes the 8ths setting then > goes half > >> speed, reverse, > >> normal speed, forward, multiply... then 25 undos > in a row. > >> Now Im NOT SURE > >> if scripts will let me do the same thing... but I > think > >> so... and more > >> besides... record on track one after an 8th, > switch to > >> track 2, repeat > >> across all tracks, wher all tracks are pre pitched > to > >> different notes, THEN > >> after one bar stop record on one and insert one > space > >> later... bla bla > >> bla... > >> > >> What does "Shuffle" do? Button didnt > seem to do > >> anything. > >> > >> I am yet to be able to say how it FEELS... This > has been > >> one of my things in > >> previous posts, that just like a favoured guitar, > where you > >> love the action > >> or the tone, and how it sits against your knee, a > looper > >> has FEEL. The EDP > >> to me has lots of FEEL, I play WITH it, forget it, > it > >> surprises me, yet > >> never tricks me. My OTHER looper the repeater, has > NO FEEL, > >> I like its > >> features, but I must treat it like a tape machine, > I switch > >> it on, it > >> records, it loops, it does what I tell it, but I > cant > >> forget it, one Undo, > >> and 4 tracks means I lose myself in where what is, > I need > >> to remove > >> something and take down the wrong track > >> > >> Now... with Mobius inside Mulch... with different > tracks > >> coming out to > >> different bubbleblowers? shiiiiiiiit.. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> So im not there yet... would like some feeback on > these > >> questions, but I > >> will probably joint the Mobius list and hang out > for a > >> bit... > >> Need to borrow a new soundcard witha midi IN and > try it > >> with FCB.. maybe the > >> FEEL is ok... man... > >> > >> By the way.. where is the Mobius list, couldnt > find it at > >> Yahoo... > >> > >> thats it for now... good first impresions... but > scared > >> what the future > >> might bring (in more ways than one - see 3rd > paragraph) > >> > >> Later kids, dont stay up to late.. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --=20 > >> www.markfrancombe.com > >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > >> www.looop.no > > > > > > > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 05:58:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AE8B3BE82; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <899706.68440.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Looperlative front panel (was Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions.) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:58:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:58:17 +0000 (UTC) > I also find the Looerpatives logo on the website simple but nice Bob why > is it not on the hardware?I also liked the blue front panel on the > first > units! The logo design was done after the first units were ordered. The blue front panel was done as a special one for myself. Unfortunately, I was told that the blue process was not repeatable and that every unit would be a different shade of blue. So, I instead chose to go with black. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 14:21:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EE423BE90; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 69255194 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C923D0.EFF571B9" Subject: RE: Repeater clock Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:21:04 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Repeater clock Thread-Index: Ackj0O/g+FRSxv82RYeiSsIBlTCaYw== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2008 14:21:04.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[F046EEC0:01C923D0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:21:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C923D0.EFF571B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few quid on something better? << =20 try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard.... =20 I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my home studio, & with all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four different hardware sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alone the 5bpm- that would be catastrophic in my rig too. the repeaters are both running the latest (i.e. last) release, but even before that they were pretty solid. =20 fwiw, I use them like this so I can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a guitar/bass/keyboard loop into the 'peater, then I make up the hardware sequencer patterns over that, often changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I use a lot of syncopated delays, so clock stability is important. I do not have any issues, even though I am merging the clock stream with other data twice (once in a novation keyboard & once in a truly ancient mains-powered merge box, to fold in one of the h/w sequencers that has no soft-through). the stream also passes through two other hardware sequencers. these are, in order, a doepfer maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3. =20 hth- =20 duncan.=20 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. 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 >> just started using the Re= peater=20 midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a= few=20 quid on something better? <<
 <= /DIV>
try it without the merge= box=20 first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fa= st=20 going the way of the snow leopard....
 <= /DIV>
I have used my repeaters= as=20 master clocks- still do in my home studio, & with all manner of mergers=20 & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four different hardware=20 sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alone the 5bpm- that w= ould=20 be catastrophic in my rig too.
the repeaters are both r= unning=20 the latest (i.e. last) release, but even before that they were pretty=20 solid.
 <= /DIV>
fwiw, I use them like th= is so I=20 can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a guitar/bass/keyboard loop into = the=20 'peater, then I make up the hardware sequencer patterns over that, often=20 changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I use a lot of syncopated delays, so=20 clock stability is important. I do not have any issues, even though I am me= rging=20 the clock stream with other data twice (once in a novation keyboard & o= nce=20 in a truly ancient mains-powered merge box, to fold in one of the h/w seque= ncers=20 that has no soft-through). the stream also passes through two other hardwar= e=20 sequencers.
these are, in order, a d= oepfer=20 maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3.
 <= /DIV>
hth-
 <= /DIV>
duncan. 


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------_=_NextPart_001_01C923D0.EFF571B9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 14:28:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B34123BE98; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: c7ZctMAVM1lv0l__9IPrXsESOXhniBn56BE.TIXZCdkI6idiJR_gIVH8BdUIrFvCyBVjiwB60x_5zRbItE94K2HzT8azDImBrdb0sIHXL8eWFOUWO0QsiaKZpD775znXYGjOFmM8iyFk7_0hDbOZsvRb X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Wegmann Reply-To: theweg@verizon.net Subject: RE: Repeater clock To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-593408520-1222871332=:25270" Message-ID: <475725.25270.qm@web84108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:28:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-593408520-1222871332=:25270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey isn't snow leopard the new MAC OS???? I believe it is!=20 =A0 Peace, Weg My URL http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater My Blog URL http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Goddard, Duncan wrote: From: Goddard, Duncan Subject: RE: Repeater clock To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:21 AM =A0>>=A0just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some = loops and it seems to be rubbish=A0.....=A0would it be worth spending a few= quid on something better?=A0<< =A0 try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi me= rge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard.... =A0 I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my home studio, & wi= th all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four = different hardware sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alo= ne the 5bpm- that would be catastrophic in my rig too. the repeaters are both running the latest (i.e. last) release, but even bef= ore that they were pretty solid. =A0 fwiw, I use them like this so I can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a= guitar/bass/keyboard loop into the 'peater, then I make up the hardware se= quencer patterns over that, often changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I = use a lot of syncopated delays, so clock stability is important. I do not h= ave any issues, even though I am merging the clock stream with other data t= wice (once in a novation keyboard & once in a truly ancient mains-powered m= erge box, to fold in one of the h/w sequencers that has no soft-through). t= he stream also passes through two other hardware sequencers. these are, in order, a doepfer maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3. =A0 hth- =A0 duncan.=A0 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and= =20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,= =20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. If you communicate with us by e-mail, you acknowledge and=20 assume these risks, and you agree to take appropriate measures to minimise= =20 these risks when e-mailing us.=20 MTV Networks International, MTV Networks UK & Ireland, Greenhouse,=20 Nickelodeon Viacom Consumer Products, VBSi, Viacom Brand Solutions=20 International and Comedy Central are all trading names of MTV Networks=20 Europe. MTV Networks Europe is a partnership between MTV Networks Europe= =20 Inc. and Viacom Networks Europe Inc. Address for service in Great Britain= =20 is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. --0-593408520-1222871332=:25270 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hey isn't snow leopard the new MAC OS???? I believe it is!
 
Peace,
Weg

My URL
http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater

My Blog URL
http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> wrote:
From: Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com>
Subject: RE: Repeater clock
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:21 AM

 >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few quid on something better? <<
 
try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard....
 
I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my home studio, & with all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four different hardware sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alone the 5bpm- that would be catastrophic in my rig too.
the repeaters are both running the latest (i.e. last) release, but even before that they were pretty solid.
 
fwiw, I use them like this so I can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a guitar/bass/keyboard loop into the 'peater, then I make up the hardware sequencer patterns over that, often changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I use a lot of syncopated delays, so clock stability is important. I do not have any issues, even though I am merging the clock stream with other data twice (once in a novation keyboard & once in a truly ancient mains-powered merge box, to fold in one of the h/w sequencers that has no soft-through). the stream also passes through two other hardware sequencers.
these are, in order, a doepfer maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3.
 
hth-
 
duncan. 

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--0-593408520-1222871332=:25270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 14:36:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9643D3BE97; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6ojf6t5JEh7RzGc5WhMnhIm7MxSbHlzHjD0GLrpKusY=; b=RNjJdkjGZCW/L9ANBarTRB+EVTTaGzZ+BqLEANcoWNEiBpSJNCjsR+nGB55+BknIVl A4iN9e1UOmTeViZ23SNw9czOSGoCPdIwCrqDUkbqoBfndv5eRasfMWkL33U+/l+Xg18k +kAGE1UBTu2gMxW0XvgLpfQqKJTu+IOXfrAlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Qd3jspYgXJMbnzP/NqAKf1JhSPhuFO9+zdNS268728Pi/nFKVEBX4BomKCWJzGOBHQ mQau46jx1OzRa22MDcUOTT+Wb1GTFNLG0KPmgVkNr3VnGpT54jx7FymjIWevh4AGw8Wt cbZB5V359ZvWogVglW6YLai7pcysgK3FSGWf8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:36:35 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater clock In-Reply-To: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387" References: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline well i've been messing around with various configurations and i seem to have hit on a solution - i'm using my novation controller as the clock master and slaving the repeater to it - seems ok. the merge box, i had to use, because i had footcontroller data that needed to be merged with the clock. i actually tried my old roland tr-626 as the clock master running through the merge box (as the repeater was) and the clock was absolutely rock solid! sim On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some > loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few > quid on something better? << > > try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi > merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard.... > > > ------=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
well i've been messing around with various configurations and i seem to have hit on a solution - i'm using my novation controller as the clock master and slaving the repeater to it - seems ok. the merge box, i had to use, because i had footcontroller data that needed to be merged with the clock. i actually tried my old roland tr-626 as the clock master running through the merge box (as the repeater was) and the clock was absolutely rock solid!

sim

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> wrote:
 >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few quid on something better? <<
 
try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard....
 

------=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 16:36:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6F7B3BEA4; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:36:18 -0500 Subject: RE: Mobius first impressions... and questions. Thread-Topic: Mobius first impressions... and questions. Thread-Index: AckjS6AUh+2jZDSlRBuZfMU5dCZotQAlPB9Q Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <-by5RD.A.s5D.Gc64IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:36:22 +0000 (UTC) > On the repeater you have 2 rotaries... in Trim Mode, > one trims the start of the loop the other trims the end of the loop. > ... > So if I trim the end all the way to the beginning, (So i am hearing a > loop that is just the first second of the first loop i played) So it's non-destructive start/end points like you see in "DJ" oriented sample players? I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features, but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in with undo. You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it behave more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications allowed? One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any other destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer list as usual. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 16:50:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B39363BEA9; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FekjtiM2Qoktd/NDrTvVVGNRzH/9A6xd7KCsSuGULawGmTT6qObvJks2RYAFyH/om18Tlp/SU5gsmyFwAmtn0X6FhEM7bfjoO+uMaUyh8eGFSA4b2X16++BWuxESz4S/lZyG/MqU+VySyFwjDB2EerBSC8y3JUZBU17pdu2/Yn4=; X-YMail-OSG: 7AKnOtIVM1lGlsjKbg9jpua21o_Sh6YObymtHpTPaKQ9VvyE3k.kAxOFRUEjvstIjhHu_7I47GIbqandNYLHig0fzPRz7UZWuBuwnr6zNdKfwX4a2xWQjOKFuSRqg.Qzy1jIMiibS3GnJPjWh0FSfSy6..ak X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Reply-To: vsyevolod@yahoo.com Subject: Repeater mod To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081001142855.518103BEA6@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <240764.94422.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-_xI9B.A.slE.Qp64IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Duncan, How did the Repeater mod eventually work out? Curious minds want to know... Stephen > I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my > home studio, & > with all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to > accommodate three or > four different hardware sequencers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:35:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AE713BEA6; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:35:34 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Myspace music play count desaster References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) jayrope looper's delight schrieb: > This is eventually a musician survival issue. My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who don't listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly to a different one... ;-) Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what I would imagine... Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his already huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at least. Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark ages and fill the world with light again... ;-) Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site, which seems quite successful btw... (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design could ever be...) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:35:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3989D3BEB6; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E3B4FD.8010003@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:35:57 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new hardware vst box References: <558757.10785.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <558757.10785.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo schrieb: >> I doubt that a laptop has really any disadvantage over a >> hardware box (which is just hiding a computer inside > > yes it does > that damn mouse;-) I don't need one, at least not on stage... ;-) And you can actually buy a MacBook with a touchscreen for only a bit more than a Receptor... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:43:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42CA03BEB2; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=EpA17pFIeEEKbOTEYjg7CfNJDh8QrL8P4P8FNI2KSjvQ1r3m88WxIBXt2r/ESrMlGTlf/AD2MJDJcHi2B/s5Zg6sFnHsqAvpIML9w8AWDEatl05bydkQRWj+R2V5hwVls4stLuGlXJ61md4+ItYJGZS4tGqjiIw+vn+aILgg+o4=; X-YMail-OSG: 0YYqJDYVM1l.5pSHOEWVgkOu4sTzJ11cjCVpklh9x1iY0Hwoq_p0wLZDxemane6G8J7.wOh6MORwq_BpXxXy60fRSxwGsYh0Y.wvT6E6Qfo.3qHSgUHVlQgTPww0_CI3q3CqblDt9iB8Au7FN2p_1gZExKY8Uhg5xUUdVQCnKr6Q7U05XjQ.moquSx1X2icgxnot X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new hardware vst box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E3B4FD.8010003@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <967393.41750.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC) wow really??? huraaay the mouse is gone!!! > And you can actually buy a MacBook with a touchscreen for > only a bit > more than a Receptor... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:46:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A3CF3BEBE; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=YRIi/q2imitJxSL1hoaQrLCEHPjvhTN+S9PjTp1i2lg=; b=WUa3n7MXqvwQQOSYrPt39AT132Nu0KutpMbNrs918UsUyqqgnfQ3rUFA32m+p6nBTe RqqR/mxcvFOcWfiw/dF/cMyvB4hGQNuK/7UELpnSAFYrJIxc5OzceBsllxqBBVaNLIBs JVHwOS8yln6kaQkcOyjUDfGQmWbnbRSkUJoOw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Z+0CWJ62wnhjVgUKRv9ylvEXYqQw8GZ5gMu8rEwYmlyE/1kdbF8iZx1rjv4kBaSkzD EkvW3j3ROLZ5oRt8HzYadiiSGcQ/Lesx8lJRrE8wG7CqvmHqWqPr4EPOv9cO6uRH+vn1 czW6TwV1klREJUAQUK4fBlH815bvYfeidMMho= Message-ID: <91d8478b0810011046w1ad5a682vcb95d4cc8e5f0622@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 13:46:55 -0400 From: "Jean-Paul De Roover" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Myspace music play count desaster In-Reply-To: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:46:56 +0000 (UTC) The issues with Myspace are in the process of being resolved. If you read the blogs on 'Tom's page, you'll see that they are well aware of the issue. All play counts are still being recorded, but as they transfer over the information, some of it might not be represented fully yet. As of a few days, my play count diminished by about 8,000 plays, but yesterday it returned to it's full value (still keeping track of how many plays had come in that day). Don't worry, they're working on it. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > jayrope looper's delight schrieb: >> >> This is eventually a musician survival issue. > > My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who don't > listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the > music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly to > a different one... ;-) > > Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already > better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what I > would imagine... > > Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his already > huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at least. > Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark ages > and fill the world with light again... ;-) > > Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site, > which seems quite successful btw... > (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design could > ever be...) > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 20:41:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9585D3BE8E; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 588 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:41:10 UTC Message-ID: <48E3DE18.8040802@servingpeace.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:31:20 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you > can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but > nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying > feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any other > destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last > playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer > list as usual. Would it be possible to simple adjust the start and end points (non-destructively) and then just apply loop modifications (multiply, overdub, etc.) from that point? Would that be compatible with undo? In that case you are operating on the greater (entire) loop, but you only hear the part between your designated start and end points (a loop window). In that case you are working on a loop in a loop, but I don't see why undo can't just operate on the entire loop and still make sense. Just as now, things like multiply or insert would increase the loop time and move the end point. The difference is that in this context it would do it in the loop window and only adjust the greater loop's end point if the window were to extend beyond it. Does that make sense? Is that a workable way to do it? I'm probably forgetting about something important, and not having read the source code, I am just taking a shot in the dark. Anyway, this type of question is really interesting. I just started experimenting with mobius on my ibook last night and I have to say that what it offers - multiple scriptable loopers with EDP-like functions and more - is so exciting and wonderful. Scripting is the missing link for me in a lot of this music production/performance software. Thanks for porting this to the mac! I eagerly await an AU version at which point I hope to begin my experiments with a new laptop running mobius inside of mainstage. Thanks, - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 20:43:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB4F3BE94; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=LoliE1QjepfoW79cRgvIOZFmR7LnK/ftJBSS+G1YMN4=; b=X9f52fgFeJrzBDH8Rb12OGeaTPXXtUqZEQMMXqIxYVx4MHLax4hsoZRQQaID2heYGJ 9yeEpPENfy7KGT8sewOuHjj3EBmW2TeQ2D7LPifyImRWcku+ADv2ZZ+LfG3y/wYDDNFX ita8F3jVzqL27o8QiRX84OiWpVLygA0UduRtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=SBFaMJX7CKPTggbnmX31YE80/xBu7tqTLas4uETpqyeO0BYI3+HWgB0CTr7AyySww4 NsVINN0OM2Oj3lPQZLWpuZWJd40EMt33sv2llp7sNCtBRiic7FaVrR1+HzGXhdSJ93y9 jLcaDDjjcb3NiP3m5SVMkkw/voXaRW7fAtGUQ= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810011343w3b7ebab4s5555b712370382c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:43:07 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797" References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 541ad179681bd46c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:43:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes Jeff, when in Trim mode, you cant really do anything else. you can come out of trim and record an overdub on just that section, then when you go back into Trim and ... er... UN-trim sure enough that section has your overdub. It works, and would be a good solution if its not possible to do anthing else. Its just a bit "clunky" on repeater, interface-wise. If you could do this trim stuff via midi (I suggest a cc for start, one for end, and one for moving both at the same time- preferably with some kind of 8ths quantise) then one could do this quickly move back to overdub, with a hit of that switch, and back to trim. The fact that you cant do both at the same time would be a negligable problem, that would probably only be possible via scripts anyhow. anyway... that would do my head in!!! But look at the Tyme Sefari thing, by harvestman... its crazy!!! > > So it's non-destructive start/end points like you see in "DJ" oriented > sample players? > > I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features, > but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this > while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in > with undo. > > You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it behave > more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications > allowed? > > One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you > can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but > nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying > feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any other > destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last > playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer > list as usual. > > Jeff > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Yes Jeff, when in Trim mode, you cant really do anything else. you can come out of trim and record an overdub on just that section, then when you go back into Trim and ... er... UN-trim sure enough that section has your overdub. It works, and would be a good solution if its not possible to do anthing else. Its just a bit "clunky" on repeater, interface-wise. If you could do this trim stuff via midi (I suggest a cc for start, one for end, and one for moving both at the same time- preferably with some kind of 8ths quantise) then one could do this quickly move back to overdub, with a hit of that switch, and back to trim. The fact that you cant do both at the same time would be a negligable problem, that would probably only be possible via scripts anyhow. anyway... that would do my head in!!! But look at the Tyme Sefari thing, by harvestman... its crazy!!!

So it's non-destructive start/end points like you see in "DJ" oriented
sample players?

I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features,
but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this
while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in
with undo.

You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it behave
more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications
allowed?

One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you
can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but
nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying
feedback at the same time.  Then the moment you start Overdub or any other
destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last
playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer
list as usual.

Jeff




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www.looop.no
------=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 20:51:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23EBB3BE91; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Jexh2ViURzAyNlb5As56/dtejRRrqBX7R3luEtV7GdA=; b=VLbA2QHj2+4bk3yg0F2TTIU3EZvM6BrP9TRxtl5/npYgo6odpTtrEMAa7xZsM36h0B XC5vVX5+qOe7mBEARN/hAVZyHEUcjVW7MvUCTCKZxCLMhXeE2js4s+caS8dWUMGEW76d NvspGop0t9J6Pswb3cpbVOW+hidRhzBCZIlfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=m4ZTbSzTRu5ISPOZaRNLJaAJTYEBVGfypScnEEpT+rkc8Wv642SiW3NQoUGP9eqwpG IWoL890tgrrLl+h21rsSSxI3uqzfeAz8ORNDPQC3Ca/k/K+vMcxwkpHB/3nhwhwmQqim l5mHUYvf+Bhdl6z8aLOUcuAUE57BSp5YHT864= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:51:01 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Myspace music play count desaster In-Reply-To: <91d8478b0810011046w1ad5a682vcb95d4cc8e5f0622@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407" References: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> <91d8478b0810011046w1ad5a682vcb95d4cc8e5f0622@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:51:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline (Laughing as I write this) I didn't know they'd done that ... I stopped looking at the play counts years ago ... Dennis On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > The issues with Myspace are in the process of being resolved. If you > read the blogs on 'Tom's page, you'll see that they are well aware of > the issue. All play counts are still being recorded, but as they > transfer over the information, some of it might not be represented > fully yet. > > As of a few days, my play count diminished by about 8,000 plays, but > yesterday it returned to it's full value (still keeping track of how > many plays had come in that day). > > Don't worry, they're working on it. > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Stefan Tiedje > wrote: > > jayrope looper's delight schrieb: > >> > >> This is eventually a musician survival issue. > > > > My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who > don't > > listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the > > music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly > to > > a different one... ;-) > > > > Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already > > better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what > I > > would imagine... > > > > Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his > already > > huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at > least. > > Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark > ages > > and fill the world with light again... ;-) > > > > Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site, > > which seems quite successful btw... > > (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design > could > > ever be...) > > > > Stefan > > > > -- > > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > > --_____-----------|-------------- > > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > > > > > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
(Laughing as I write this)

I didn't know they'd done that ... I stopped looking at the play counts years ago ...

Dennis

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
The issues with Myspace are in the process of being resolved.  If you
read the blogs on 'Tom's page, you'll see that they are well aware of
the issue.  All play counts are still being recorded, but as they
transfer over the information, some of it might not be represented
fully yet.

As of a few days, my play count diminished by about 8,000 plays, but
yesterday it returned to it's full value (still keeping track of how
many plays had come in that day).

Don't worry, they're working on it.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote:
> jayrope looper's delight schrieb:
>>
>> This is eventually a musician survival issue.
>
> My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who don't
> listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the
> music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly to
> a different one... ;-)
>
> Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already
> better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what I
> would imagine...
>
> Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his already
> huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at least.
> Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark ages
> and fill the world with light again... ;-)
>
> Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site,
> which seems quite successful btw...
> (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design could
> ever be...)
>
> Stefan
>
> --
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>



--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com




--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
------=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 21:09:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1C233BE84; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 938872.85852.bm@omp404.mail.mud.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ZBCOV7AHrd8+5/w0iAjEmifROJASJnXm4R60BMq8jrJWY4GPnfZXO4zlymTs+6jLDJR5zwcfSaffeKgLxARpiH32DGaDoyQ7ttiNT1LotKt1R7DORcaNPRqeKYQMGlfxfwxg9UY+WHDmVSQV+235GsrDXNbjpMLDbLgckuyNEaE=; X-YMail-OSG: 6Rr2qKwVM1nejd14pNWgDL1tzrWaf1.FVDdgIyBuiXwvqO8Zqebwd2EAz_G0DAgYoB2MgTMl.LeTu2tXsmZRsbCrUxHDSNW9Cq2Qo5By_ouWNFYc4znB2sgwfBx0Kn4LMEtvbsvOVsUNTl4Ue8DfBg_wNfIxenTjcMhgXs7veBAOq9M.iGQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:09:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <23447.7925.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <337027.22283.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Sorry about the OT-ishness, but I'm wondering if any other listmembers using Yahoo mail addresses have had/resolved this situation: I just got an email from Matthias informing me that my 'reply-to' setting points back to my address rather than to the list. Upon investigation, he's right; it sure does. But my posts USED to go back to the list, and I haven't changed any settings. Investigating further, it seems my posts before June have the correct 'reply-to', while those since July don't. I know Yahoo has made some changes ('new' mail vs. 'classic'), but again, I haven't changed any settings, and looking through many pages of Yahoo Mail FAQs I've found no way to fix it. Has this happened to anyone else? -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 22:13:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A5DA3BE93; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:13:24 EDT Subject: way ot question about MYSPACE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ce8.40b4b75f.36155004_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:13:37 +0000 (UTC) --part1_ce8.40b4b75f.36155004_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my entire creative life is based on myspace.....not.....:).....but i have read the boards and sent them questions and i can not resolve this problem, i.e.: when i click on the "blue" words, like, "NEXT" as in page or "update".....nothing happens.....i tried to upload some new tunes and they appear on my profile but do not show up on my player......some things work, others do not.....i use an older eMAC and i have checked all the settings but to no avail.....please respond off list and help out this "stupid" american.....how can i play THE BIG ROOM when i can't even get MYSPACE to work properly?.....yikes!.....what a mess!.....my o.s. is OS X 10.3.9.....and when i try to mail TOM, i keep getting an "away from desk" message.....sorry to bug yinz.....michael "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? 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(http://www.walletpop.com/?NCI= D=3Demlcntuswall00000001) --part1_ce8.40b4b75f.36155004_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 22:15:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F41BD3BE98; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=E8O/Xl/tg553sr/g0O8NkVMFzm5Kr8KN7irw5D/rygg2u9QfQ1qk5js6ll1HdVmeDRB4YdJKDMJMrnJmjZXbhxGl1p3H+8VGqshdZmx5FcMppUS/ZPwIqCFxLu5Z3b8OmmoBO7FGFxRGKwAYc2Gg/lbLgrUA+etOGkTHWDgZeEo=; X-YMail-OSG: OlQxSKQVM1k_pS2HqkuPVjt7QNYX5fY1xKP.j6QIiz60XUK.1z6clnb0IkMXOBlt7yzdNEtOMAjERxal6_JUx2vvQD85IL4UYfTY7KvT09fAAuLQsAQVG6M901ocHuQPcYNh5sdVXwbgqjnivSI1pc16U6w8O1iBJ9c1.NkgDQS9OKNAqg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <337027.22283.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <232072.31942.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:15:49 +0000 (UTC) I have the same problem. I've been through the yahoo setup screens and haven't found any appropriate settings to change. --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Tim Nelson wrote: > From: Tim Nelson > Subject: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:09 PM > Sorry about the OT-ishness, but I'm wondering if any > other listmembers using Yahoo mail addresses have > had/resolved this situation: > > I just got an email from Matthias informing me that my > 'reply-to' setting points back to my address rather > than to the list. Upon investigation, he's right; it > sure does. > > But my posts USED to go back to the list, and I haven't > changed any settings. > > Investigating further, it seems my posts before June have > the correct 'reply-to', while those since July > don't. I know Yahoo has made some changes ('new' > mail vs. 'classic'), but again, I haven't > changed any settings, and looking through many pages of > Yahoo Mail FAQs I've found no way to fix it. > > Has this happened to anyone else? > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 22:28:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B55B3BE9E; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9374636C-DF5E-4361-A294-20D474CF9974@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:28:17 -0300 References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:28:54 +0000 (UTC) I am not quite sure for this case, but in general I think its easier to understand different tracks with different functions you are going this direction anyway, having different presets and possibly different instruments for each track, so each track has a musical function like : ostinato bass rhythm fill crossrhythm harmony noise choir with the suitable setting, effect etc. so there could be a track set to trim and if needed, sound can be copied from it to another track for further treatment - as if it switches its musical function > I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features, > but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this > while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in > with undo. > > You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it > behave > more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications > allowed? > > One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you > can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but > nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying > feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any > other > destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last > playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer > list as usual. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:01:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B2A3BE93; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <912a41e1dad6a1037999220763925405.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> <23447.7925.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <266daee63d652b7e65363c6b6a42969a.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> <190c73362b10d7d79ae04c35a659bd5c.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Help needed: Pic of EH Microsynth insides... From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1g3Xo.A.JqH.TFA5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) thank you VERY much. One quick question: at the jacks only two prong? With the board facing you (like in the pictures) what color cables are going to the left jack? I can see ablue one but can't make out the other color or where it is going? thanks! D_ > here you go > http://www.box.net/shared/v85s2izgj1 > > took them with my phone on macro, so i hope they're ok > > i couldn't remove the upper circuit board, because the wires were too > short, > but the only wire that is attached to it is the brown one and i took a > shot > of where it's attached from above > > all the best > > sim > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> yeah, that's what you need...one of them (couldn't remember the name of >> it). also means the big red light comes on only when you hit the switch >> - >> neat >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:16 PM, >> wrote: >> >>> That sounds great. I actually have a few 3DPT switches for making stuff >>> true bypass so that would be a nice bonus :) >>> >>> thanks again >>> >>> D_ >>> >>> >>> >>> > ok mate, no problem - first thing tomorrow >>> > btw - i had mine true bypassed, which is pretty essential, imo, so >>> that >>> > when the unit is "off" your dry signal isn't running through the >>> internal preamp >>> > >>> > pics soon >>> > >>> > sim >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> That would be GREATLY appreciated! >>> >> >>> >> What I need is a clear shot of the circuit board showing where the >>> three >>> >> wires that end up in the jacks are and then I need a shot of the >>> Switch >>> >> and jacks showing where the wires come from and where they go. >>> >> >>> >> I *think* I have the wires on the circuit board right but clearly >>> I'm >>> >> bypassing the effect due to the wrong wiring on the switch and/or >>> the >>> >> jacks. >>> >> >>> >> Thank you very much for any help! >>> >> >>> >> David >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: >>> Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com >>> >>> >> > -- ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:04:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 493973BE93; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20081001190359.KXH2S.420111.root@mp06> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:03:59 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: way ot question about MYSPACE Cc: Nemoguitt@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Klobie, I also am using an older (non-Inte) Mac laptop for my MySpace stuff and eve= rything else. Try using a different browser. Download Mozilla's FireFox. It work much better than Safari. A lot of the features on MySpace that you want to etit cannot be done from = older versions of Safari. But you can still download FireFox for MacOSX 10.3 and it works like a char= m. Try it you'll like it. Navigation and some buttons are a little different - heck the features and = tools are just different. But it is a good browser and it wll help you update your MySpace page a lit= tle easier. BTW, this doesn't mean you have to throw away or dicard Safari. Keep 'em both in your "Dock" and just us FireFox only when you want to work= on you MySace page if that's what you want. Hope this helps. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you = didn=E2=80=99t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. S= ail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore= . Dream. Discover. - Mark Twain http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:=20 > my entire creative life is based on myspace.....not.....:).....but i have= =20 > read the boards and sent them questions and i can not resolve this proble= m, i.e.:=20 > when i click on the "blue" words, like, "NEXT" as in page or=20 > "update".....nothing happens.....i tried to upload some new tunes and the= y appear on my=20 > profile but do not show up on my player......some things work, others do = not.....i=20 > use an older eMAC and i have checked all the settings but to no=20 > avail.....please respond off list and help out this "stupid" american....= .how can i play THE=20 > BIG ROOM when i can't even get MYSPACE to work properly?.....yikes!.....w= hat a=20 > mess!.....my o.s. is OS X 10.3.9.....and when i try to mail TOM, i keep= =20 > getting an "away from desk" message.....sorry to bug yinz.....michael >=20 > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA >=20 > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ************** > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial=20 > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tip= s and=20 > calculators. > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=3Demlcntuswall00000001) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:09:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EACC3BE90; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 272485.9520.bm@omp415.mail.mud.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=vmSvTpJ5Z1YEsD1YJla4FjdfgvRTu8N2QrNiaEOEdE11dkihymEDdOfITep9EHys0jgg+VzIGXKnKKHyEJrIXa5feGc1g0sGu1FgZ4vzv1XfQ8GqztoeB4SHzjnyD3LiWl5a2LRzFYaq/5DihgzPVtoDl/m+tAB0c77hwIbw0NY=; X-YMail-OSG: T43AbdEVM1l7z10KJe0awYgKD1YDlssiSa1x.NBcqHbA2HF7rFmJzzXpKjHrpW2szCzXsqn.4n._lgSeK4SQK6BLFtZxGeBF.CBjx2nYnuZ_pXpeO1IfZ.Gk9JGseEeND1bhKLzI2IBhs4tcUEpb9nyui_lT3d7EgseCq_97yZgSVeLdEF9mLyYp5aEtrpk9gIFNoJc- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:09:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <232072.31942.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <707631.70897.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:09:41 +0000 (UTC) And then there's this from the LD list info page: "replies are set to automatically go back to the list, so please check the address if you want to reply to somebody privately." (From the 'posting guidelines' paragraph at ) Maybe unsub, resub? -t- ps: I did finally find the 'reply' option at Yahoo buried several pages down, but it appears that option would point every reply to every non-LD message to the list, and we don't want that, do we? http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Wed, 10/1/08, George Ludwig wrote: > From: George Ludwig > Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:15 PM > I have the same problem. I've been through the yahoo > setup screens and haven't found any appropriate settings > to change. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:43:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E5E93BE94; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:43:33 EDT Subject: Re: way ot question about MYSPACE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:43:37 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox allows me to operate myspace whereas safari limited me.....yipeeee!.....what a group of buck-a-roos!.....michael "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) --part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox=20= allows me to operate myspace whereas safari limited me.....yipeeee!.....what= a group of buck-a-roos!.....michael

"AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA

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www.ct-collective.com





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(http://www.walletpop.com/?NCI= D=3Demlcntuswall00000001) --part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 00:46:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 276E03BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E419EB.3080209@servingpeace.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:46:35 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psychle62@yahoo.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail References: <707631.70897.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <707631.70897.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Tim and everyone, This issue has been discussed here before and those messages can be found in the list archives. Here's the deal as I understand and remember it: The LD mailing list software adds a Reply-To: header to messages before forwarding them to the list. This header contains the loopers-delight mailing list address. That way replies go to the list. The problem is that the mailing list software will not replace an existing Reply-To header, nor will it add a new one if that header already exists in a message. The only way that the software can do its job correctly is if the messages that you send to the list do not contain a Reply-To: header. That means in your webmail or mail client you need to make sure that the Reply-To setting in your LD account is blank. Most people don't need to use a Reply-To address in their email configuration, and you should be able to set your yahoo email account to not use it. Peace, - Sam Nilsson Tim Nelson wrote: > And then there's this from the LD list info page: "replies are set to automatically go back to the list, so please check the address if you want to reply to somebody privately." (From the 'posting guidelines' paragraph at ) > > Maybe unsub, resub? > > -t- > > ps: I did finally find the 'reply' option at Yahoo buried several pages down, but it appears that option would point every reply to every non-LD message to the list, and we don't want that, do we? > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > --- On Wed, 10/1/08, George Ludwig wrote: > >> From: George Ludwig >> Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:15 PM >> I have the same problem. I've been through the yahoo >> setup screens and haven't found any appropriate settings >> to change. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 00:51:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F7C23BE94; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3612 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:51:36 UTC Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:51:14 -0400 From: Scott Duncan Subject: Re: way ot question about MYSPACE In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <1158BFC1-7F02-48CA-B15C-840C96550E2C@webworkz.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--215261386 References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:51:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--215261386 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox allows me to operate myspace > whereas safari limited me.....yipeeee!.....what a group of buck-a- > roos!.....michael > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA Is that a dilbertrate typo in the quote? (.....but we ain't exactly smart either... ie -- elections) --Apple-Mail-10--215261386 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox = allows me to operate myspace whereas safari limited = me.....yipeeee!.....what a group of buck-a-roos!.....michael

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"AMERICANS = ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA

Is that a dilbertrate typo in the quote? =A0(.....but we ain't = exactly smart either... =A0 =A0ie -- elections)
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= --Apple-Mail-10--215261386-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 01:00:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAA213BE80; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 01:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 797645.17442.bm@omp407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=b2Wj12icSTkpG/t2kCOhdTbidVm+EZ7qy5wFudPj0oOhKF1h1XPwgYGh32E8baSWDtFJuiv8XhCwozGFfaHds55V6AiA9bFomw+4Bay8+B0/I5xO0zrpYvQKr3KID9IOT9WhrOnF9naxFWk8HwSkZvdIM0ODZ/wLWEussdtxchU=; X-YMail-OSG: WL7Y_UwVM1lxSf52I9R05RSNPmlwHmMjuTS5Qo4HMpu2VKr3B7txUPL9JMb7bJBZZxxRaX0jwlkxr93PHJ_2Eodm4DRN2kh9uw_XvSmn6ULaMPQT9kl3CEvx.gfzkIMnHtMgYR911.PVU01wgVR1Oh91gp9DN2miHsDfud2OuKD3I3bZ_mY- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:00:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E419EB.3080209@servingpeace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <695035.76863.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 01:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sam, Yes, that's what I was getting at in the PS of my last post: the reply-to setting in my Yahoo account IS blank. Nothing is now, nor has ever been entered into the blank field. Yet something caused the settings which had been working just fine for several years to work differently. -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Sam Nilsson wrote: > From: Sam Nilsson > Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail > To: psychle62@yahoo.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 8:46 PM > Hi Tim and everyone, > > This issue has been discussed here before and those > messages can be > found in the list archives. Here's the deal as I > understand and remember it: > > The LD mailing list software adds a Reply-To: header to > messages before > forwarding them to the list. This header contains the > loopers-delight > mailing list address. That way replies go to the list. > > The problem is that the mailing list software will not > replace an > existing Reply-To header, nor will it add a new one if that > header > already exists in a message. > > The only way that the software can do its job correctly is > if the > messages that you send to the list do not contain a > Reply-To: header. > That means in your webmail or mail client you need to make > sure that the > Reply-To setting in your LD account is blank. > > Most people don't need to use a Reply-To address in > their email > configuration, and you should be able to set your yahoo > email account to > not use it. > > Peace, > - Sam Nilsson > > Tim Nelson wrote: > > And then there's this from the LD list info page: > "replies are set to automatically go back to the list, > so please check the address if you want to reply to somebody > privately." (From the 'posting guidelines' > paragraph at > ) > > > > Maybe unsub, resub? > > > > -t- > > > > ps: I did finally find the 'reply' option at > Yahoo buried several pages down, but it appears that option > would point every reply to every non-LD message to the list, > and we don't want that, do we? > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > > --- On Wed, 10/1/08, George Ludwig > wrote: > > > >> From: George Ludwig > >> Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving > yahoo mail > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:15 PM > >> I have the same problem. I've been through the > yahoo > >> setup screens and haven't found any > appropriate settings > >> to change. > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 02:08:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7535B3BE99; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:01:16 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Midi envelope generator To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I keep thinking I could use a hardware midi envelope generator, something that had, say, 4 sliders for ADSR, a switch for looping, a slider for loop rate and a push button trigger. Does such a device exist? -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 02:22:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEBAF3BE94; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E4306E.5090806@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:22:38 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT tractor drum loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Check out this physical looped drum machine...........pretty cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 02:32:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7FEA3BE97; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2091 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:32:35 UTC Message-Id: <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: repeater OS 2.0 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:57:37 -0700 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3PcmkC.A.ALC.DLD5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:32:35 +0000 (UTC) hi- now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so... any input would be quite helpful. thanks! - tyler / battery cage - www.batterycage.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 03:04:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B5163BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E43A0B.4000506@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:03:39 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KEVIN KISSINGER , JIM GOODIN -China Painting , "ISAAC (electric shovel) FRANKLE" , GOH NAKUMURA , "DARYL SHAWN (china painting)" , BILL WALKER , BILL PUTNAM , JACK SCHULTZ , JONATHAN KESSLER , JEFF SLOAN , GLENN SMITH , CHRIS COHN , UNITY NGUYEN , PETER COR , JD DEVROS , TRAVIS LUND , ROBERTO ZORZI , RYUSEI HATTORI , MANDO-MAN , BARRY CLEVELAND , RICK WALKER , GENIE , KALIMBA MAN , MATT HERMAN , MATT DAVIGNON , MARGARET NOBLE , JAMES BAILEY , BOB AMSTADT , JORDIE TOPF , GREG POWERS , "LARRY the 'O'" , KOOROSH DARYAIE , DAN & THERESA SOLTZBERG , STAN CARD , DANIEL THOMAS , LUIS ANGULO , CARL WEINGARTEN , ERIC GLICK RIEMAN , "LINDSEY WALKER (newbie looper)" , CPR aka Chris Roberts , KRISPEN HARTUNG , GARY REGINA , TED KILLIAN , MARK HAMBURG , "AMAR CHAUDHARY. PHD" , PETER KNUDSEN , BOB BEEDE , JRJ , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "Y2K8LOOPFEST@yahoo.com" , "PURPLEHAND@ hotmail.c" , RICK WALKER , KRISPEN HARTUNG , TED KILLIAN Subject: Y2K8 FULL COLOR COMMEMORATIVE T-SHIRT orders open for this week only Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:04:44 +0000 (UTC) The Artwork for this year's festival really has turned out so nicely that we've decided to offer a t-shirt to commemorate the festival. Ted Killian our wonderful and generous artist (and performer) has made a deal to have really high quality full color reproduction of the poster on a t-shirt. Because of a new printing technology, we can only offer the t-shirt in white with a pretty large graphic on it and we would like to get people who are interested to commit to buying one before we order them. The t-shirts will cost $20 for all sizes and $22 for XX and XXX sizes. Proceed will go towards paying our generous volunteer staff at the festival due to the lack of donations for this year's festival because of the economy. In fact, if anyone is feeling generous, we will accept small donations this year so that we can pay our staff like we did last year for the first time. These people work for 30 hours of the festival.........it's an intense labor of love. Anyone interested should e-mail me immediately with a committment to buy a shirt. We can exchange money and t-shirts at the entrance to the festival on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. We won't be mailing anyone t-shirts so we'll have to make exchanges at the festival. Let Ted and I know by putting Y2K8 T-SHIRT in the subject line as an indication that you promise to buy one of these shirts. We don't have enough funds to do any overruns so we'll only order shirts now. Thanks a lot, everyone.............looking forward to seeing you all soon. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 03:27:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A74273BE95; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=U+Af8y7FJYJEBEBNL38crIQU80hN5KS3ieCk5qOMvRY=; b=flvrL7HNMM02n3vXK895KFg8UVBsfGkeF3Xah/6kFToY/+GE13brwDmFwNiof8Y+zh GeZibIKSXTVkdtbzWHc2u+v75lUwedVVVyhoD/bQDhM9Bv/n9wXtPZNjo4/B4jz/Nq7K ZWxibrZXw4LzNYAtHdhgYcrVd2yfBlMWNibpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZsuadFoTmXxn2TIxJnxWs1+791dHmnljKqCL94HYKcjLXzgeZnoxnMHmUzPG0AOhoq 5ZY0iuh5778F3gxd1DZIth8qfgk533ks+X3wyp/GMyszdwnYBQfEIRuktocjkNcDYqlh p4IcPI9LIBc33wYR8c6jOn/FCpP9HSePvJDTo= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00810012027i51b2f5bn4d95e3f41d65593d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:27:43 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K8 FULL COLOR COMMEMORATIVE T-SHIRT orders open for this week only In-Reply-To: <48E43A0B.4000506@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17990_26469943.1222918063575" References: <48E43A0B.4000506@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:27:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17990_26469943.1222918063575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any pictures of the shirts? On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > The Artwork for this year's festival really has turned out so nicely > that we've decided to offer a t-shirt to commemorate the festival. > > Ted Killian our wonderful and generous artist (and performer) > has made a deal to have really high quality full color reproduction > of the poster on a t-shirt. > > Because of a new printing technology, we can only offer the t-shirt in > white > with a pretty large graphic on it and we would like to get people who are > interested to commit to buying one before we order them. > > The t-shirts will cost $20 for all sizes > and $22 for XX and XXX sizes. > > Proceed will go towards paying our generous volunteer staff at the > festival due to the lack of donations for this year's festival because > of the economy. > > In fact, if anyone is feeling generous, we will accept small donations > this > year so that we can pay our staff like we did last year for the first time. > > These people work for 30 hours of the festival.........it's an intense > labor of love. > > Anyone interested should e-mail me immediately with > a committment to buy a shirt. > We can exchange money and t-shirts at the entrance to the festival > on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. > > We won't be mailing anyone t-shirts so we'll have to make exchanges at the > festival. > > Let Ted and I know by putting > Y2K8 T-SHIRT in the subject line as an indication that you promise to > buy one of these shirts. > > We don't have enough funds to do any overruns so we'll only order shirts > now. > > Thanks a lot, everyone.............looking forward to seeing you all soon. > > yours, Rick > > ------=_Part_17990_26469943.1222918063575 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Any pictures of the shirts?

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
The Artwork for this year's festival really has turned out so nicely
that we've decided to offer a t-shirt to commemorate the festival.

Ted Killian our wonderful and generous artist (and performer)
has made a deal to have really high quality full color reproduction
of the poster on a t-shirt.

Because of a new printing technology,  we can only offer the t-shirt in white
with a pretty large graphic on it and we would like to get people who are
interested to commit to buying one before we order them.

The t-shirts will cost $20 for all sizes
and $22 for XX and XXX sizes.

Proceed will go towards paying our generous volunteer staff at the
festival due to the lack of donations for this year's festival because
of the economy.

In fact,  if anyone is feeling generous,  we will accept small donations this
year so that we can pay our staff like we did last year for the first time.

These people work for 30 hours of the festival.........it's an intense labor of love.

Anyone interested should e-mail me immediately with
a committment to buy a shirt.
We can exchange money and t-shirts at the entrance to the festival
on Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

We won't be mailing anyone t-shirts so we'll have to make exchanges at the festival.

Let Ted and I know by putting
Y2K8  T-SHIRT   in the subject line as an indication that you promise to buy one of these shirts.

We don't have enough funds to do any overruns so we'll only order shirts now.

Thanks a lot, everyone.............looking forward to seeing you all soon.

yours,  Rick


------=_Part_17990_26469943.1222918063575-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 06:04:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3664C3BE97; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 23:04:59 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a Repeater, a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB, I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. Rick Walker (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 06:11:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFEDA3BE9E; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NuBg9YBh7GBfGC3FSOCHIhLVbMYZSc5M1jji6VrF6QY=; b=VP1N455Q1/OpAKC7up4gzVC+Q9ID301uOw2kDqcgRqVpinTUup1cp2gsIfkm7953LZ 5TLDuydIUDPlzr+gxCHUi+I1g45scCdILwnNozYN5YoYkkAH98x+mcVVoSJMBjjGmfi5 SFFtC8fpuegNGhz5EAoli8ykoEd5AJdlaCuiM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=P4Irb5m4nEg2RdcTzBRxpvL3MRHVqlDmcUe8gssgpLjLtKyHtaQ58W/mef3k3IGdhs 0Iuof4xJFPRXog22BJBRnQGanpzeVih0ANDhwEwsn7QSaQl/uuMxuY/MupMob8CAZPv+ cyh9KxWtgepQYBQtzdWEXFsb4+xyVIGDApK9o= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810012311i5ad13c66h4023271fc353754@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:11:32 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:11:33 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a > Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) Happy Birthday, Rick! Don't know about the adapter though. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 06:24:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D57363BE94; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Yo8rjs+5mokalZ8H4vi3w2GOcPjQaSxRT77yZ+GFhFY=; b=Aaw5838k67LHf3RKNid7tKCaxH9HSNPi4jWLPWALofHDt+lEEH18yQdVKRHQCy9NQu HJd0GTWxUzLSO6Fo7A6uVSLo3DDIahutKQNDi7t8EdJoSc4VxzkHfg9S/YkwCdJiC150 OXl17lWNm04PYwAAcKv44sCYbh6SGUeUFTN3g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=icpJFmaKQvMRy8uHqtAi4Tigu6QmB6/Z9hC7JOSvHpFENm4vY1Y+RRt9fMD07VWbi2 pTo55x2tKyEHcrad9pYwpRaGWVUitekZau4mywbFwvPbnRWmEvLqgJQrdU58Zkk4BnJ0 KIYEm7NeBUdQ3DIsp5YkyDrEUYYlni95ZjLuo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810012324x34215062hfca63f136b6097f4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:24:10 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi envelope generator In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:24:11 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: > Hi, > > I keep thinking I could use a hardware midi envelope generator, something > that had, say, 4 sliders for ADSR, a switch for looping, a slider for loop > rate and a push button trigger. Does such a device exist? Yes, that description fits in well with my Faderfox micromodul LV1. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 06:49:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8226D3BEA9; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1222930148; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=ETCWz1HLa9Z7BjCb234jecpd6Tk=; b=l65eHNEvHKPeIxxnNv3UM1UscuEzrBv9GA1dyh8HXQ3pKzgoMKKpeIgNn2Klg00R c3Gcdb+D+oZILm7hCjaLzJJNbHcRi5ty39rKHlEHH8oicx56SI4TmR7dt4Dggkma; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=tz9ZaPXBHX8SkB1Lv14A:9 a=nT8NJ-zf-sEf7h2e_stlcuc5eOoA:4 a=c5zHXd76wwQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001901c9245a$f7aa27b0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:49:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker said: > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? Maybe this? "Multiple message frame adaptor apparatus for loop communication system Document Type and Number: United States Patent 4042780 Abstract: A serial data communication loop system includes single input-output controllers and/or dual message transmission with a novel adaptor unit for converting from a single to dual message frame and/or from a dual to single message frame. The message frames are multiple bit binary coded signals. The adaptor unit includes first and second converting sections, the first converting from a single input to dual output message frames and the second from a pair of identical messages to a single message output. The first section includes an amplifier connected to a polarity and level sensor and to a time delay which activates a disable timer to the amplifier and a strobe timer to operate a pair of transmitters to transmit the dual message frames. The second section includes a pair of receivers connected to a logic selector in combination with individual monitors which encode the status at the receivers to normally transmit from one receiver and automatically change to the second if the first fails. The adaptor may connect the input and output ports of a controller to a pair of parallel transmission trunks, automatically switch between main and back-up loop controllers connected in either a single or multiple trunk system, and provide an individual or group remote unit with message continuity if an individual or group loop is broken." I think I saw one on Ebay... Happy Birthday Rick! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 07:34:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 989CD3BE90; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20081002023121.vdhbnucm94osgowc@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:31:21 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Rick Walker Cc: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Feliz Cinco Cinco! As far as adapters go, I think you can just stick a midi connector... oh.. um.. never mind.. ;-p peace -cpr Quoting Rick Walker : > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, > a Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 07:48:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8BC43BE97; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 86230434/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhMBAMoZ5EhPTsDf/2dsb2JhbAAItVYIhmVjCH+DNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,349,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="86230434" Message-ID: <48E47D20.9000906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:49:52 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: OT Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail (and other providers) References: <337027.22283.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <337027.22283.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Tim Nelson wrote: > Sorry about the OT-ishness, but I'm wondering if any other listmembers using Yahoo mail addresses have had/resolved this situation: > > I just got an email from Matthias informing me that my 'reply-to' setting points back to my address rather than to the list. Upon investigation, he's right; it sure does. > > But my posts USED to go back to the list, and I haven't changed any settings. > > Investigating further, it seems my posts before June have the correct 'reply-to', while those since July don't. I know Yahoo has made some changes ('new' mail vs. 'classic'), but again, I haven't changed any settings, and looking through many pages of Yahoo Mail FAQs I've found no way to fix it. > > Has this happened to anyone else? > Don't worry, it happened to a whole load of us, (probably still is). Oh, :-( and you still have the problem, I had to edit the address to get this to go to LD. Not just with Yahoo. It seems a this is now "accepted" default behaviour for email clients. andy's FAQ 1 Q How do I know if it affects me? A Hit "Reply To" for one of your own posts when it comes back from LD, and check that the address is LD, if it's not then you're "infected" 2 Q I'm on the Digest, how do I tell? A You can't tell from the post, you'll have to just look in your email account. 3 Q How do I fix? A Open up your email software, and check the details for the account that you use for LD. There's an option to enter a address, which has been automatically (and pointlessly) filled with your own address. Just erase your address from the , and leave it blank. 4 Q That's too hard, what do I do? A Every time you send an email to LD, look at the header info above where you are typing. You'll see the is going to LD, which is good. If the is the address of a poster that you're replying to, then change it to the LD address Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com. You'll also see your own address in the , ..erase it. 4 Q I notice this problem with someone else on LD, what can I do to help? A Send this FAQ to their person mail address. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 07:54:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDDCC3BE99; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 86232611/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.192.223/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.192.223 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AuYBADIb5EhPTsDf/2dsb2JhbAAIjjSuBYFqgzU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,349,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="86232611" Message-ID: <48E47E98.8090208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:56:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi envelope generator References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6gJ78.A.ZjC.Q5H5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:54:56 +0000 (UTC) The Gordius Little Giant range of midi controllers can put out the ADSR, but has to be programmed in terms of the individual slopes, no easy slider controls. andy butler Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: > Hi, > > I keep thinking I could use a hardware midi envelope generator, > something that had, say, 4 sliders for ADSR, a switch for looping, a > slider for loop rate and a push button trigger. Does such a device exist? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 08:11:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F33F3BEA4; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E4823C.5080009@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:11:40 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The ethics of software emulations? References: <588ce11d0809262043j613958d3ma6c716987e08623a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0809270251p78b0d5ftfcb4d49ea7ee765b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60809270349j15758bb6ra7b671240df0f049@mail.gmail.com> <101191640809270608k360c6d57ged29d8e916cbd375@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Chris Sewell schrieb: > By the way, DX7 emulations are one of the most common free instruments > out there. MDA has one that pretty good. But there are no shortage of them. Sorry, but the MDA DX10 is not emulating a DX 7, it does FM, yes, but a DX 7 has 6 operators, all freeware emulators I have seen won't do more than 4. Not enough to get that DX 7 feeling... The only one I know is commercial from NI, but I'd be glad to hear a different story... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 08:18:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2924D3BE99; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:18:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ef01c92467$782371b0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: eventide time factor Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:18:36 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C92480.9CE3FA10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <0O4tJD.A.3lD.hPI5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:18:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C92480.9CE3FA10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i have been playing with the new eventide time factor which i plan to = use on a show with elliott sharp here in istanbul. this is a great delay = and looper! much better sounding than the dl4 and such. it is like a = small glitch-idm machine. the delays sound as great as my eclipse. = although the looping time is just 12 seconds, you can a lot of = interesting things with its loop start, loop length, pshift functions. i = use it on a a tabletop at the moment.=20 if you are looking for a small delay-looper-sound design machine, you = should definitely check it out. thanks and best. 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i have been playing with the new eventide time factor which i plan = to use=20 on a show with elliott sharp here in istanbul. this is a great delay and = looper!=20 much better sounding than the dl4 and such. it is like a small = glitch-idm=20 machine. the delays sound as great as my eclipse. although the = looping=20 time is just 12 seconds, you can a lot of interesting things with its = loop=20 start, loop length, pshift functions. i use it on a a tabletop at the=20 moment. 
 
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= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
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------=_NextPart_000_00EC_01C92480.9CE3FA10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 08:21:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FB663BE9E; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E4846D.5070505@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 10:21:01 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> <001901c9245a$f7aa27b0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001901c9245a$f7aa27b0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:21:03 +0000 (UTC) Happy birthday my dear friend, I hope till next year I'll find a way to get over to Y2K9... Jeff Duke schrieb: > "Multiple message frame adaptor apparatus for loop communication system > Document Type and Number: > United States Patent 4042780 I think for these sort of patents we have to pull the plug... This is for lawyers only to be able to pull you over the table and suck out the blood of your life... I'd use the direct connection, get out, grab some blackberrys and let the sun shine on your face.... All the best for the next loop... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 09:04:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2151E3BEAF; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:04:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E48E7B.1070309@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:03:55 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:04:13 +0000 (UTC) ding ding ding! Double nickels, on the dime (I've always wanted an occasion to say that...). Cheers on ya, Rick..! loop on, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 09:21:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B83223BEB9; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <00ef01c92467$782371b0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Subject: RE: eventide time factor Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:21:52 +0200 Message-ID: <004401c92470$4ee94fa0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0045_01C92481.12721FA0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckkaRNLdzX/sv82Tv+LsgPSD1aAlAAByFZQ In-Reply-To: <00ef01c92467$782371b0$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.35; VDF: 7.0.6.233) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:21:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C92481.12721FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > i have been playing with the new eventide time factor which i plan to use on a show with elliott sharp here in istanbul oh how much I'd love to see that! what a cool combination of artists. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C92481.12721FA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> i have been playing with = the new=20 eventide time factor which i plan to use on a show with elliott sharp = here in=20 istanbul 
 
oh how much I'd love to see that!  what a cool combination = of=20 artists.
 
-Michael
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0045_01C92481.12721FA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 09:39:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62EBD3BEC2; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:39:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Rm5SQHmyVNJQg9Y/UY0d82z5pwum8rbcnLaPj3+3pIw=; b=YFgnbRSQbVHNY0rklVlPyiMFDOmzKhMBR4qgL9bYanF0cVYTDrtHjLndny9Xbq1ovE DOt6C8Dz3uE866zsF6o3oaeuT7XvBNDxk/I8JUPVEgkz1s/yjVDOFA8NomuO97Ptk+JZ Kn4bYMUI1GgmGv5+vN3rhUGITJulaVNLlIFDk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=J9Gygya/irGLZan/Lrt8iA8T95U9bwNfXVaLc/CZ8DgNzyFLZ7PbxzwZjubftslIsB n+h61VEYQDBChiDjVfGKfu2C7O3AcNueoDt2VzKFoqQqS1xuU8JUDep8n9Mc4L7Jx/cn ybJnt5ZZcsWrL3TuPaclC7w2mRnF3CWRXWUjY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:39:31 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help needed: Pic of EH Microsynth insides... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2590_9164889.1222940371138" References: <912a41e1dad6a1037999220763925405.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> <23447.7925.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <266daee63d652b7e65363c6b6a42969a.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> <190c73362b10d7d79ae04c35a659bd5c.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:39:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2590_9164889.1222940371138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline sorry mate! the jacks are 2 prong the left one (output) has a purple wire that goes from the ring connector to earth on the back cover and a blue wire that goes from the tip connector to pin 6 on the switch the right one (input) has a purple wire that goes from the ring connector to the board (solder joint immediately left of the fixing screw top right) and a yellow wire that goes from the tip connector to pin 5 on the switch pin 1 on the switch (green) goes to the bottom circuit board pin 2 (yellow) goes to top circuit board (top right) pin 3 (brown) goes to top circuit board (as seen in pic) pin 4 (black) goes to earth on the casing near the on/off switch pin 5 (yellow) goes to input tip pin 6 (blue) goes to output tip pin 7 (empty) pin 8 (yellow) goes to pin 9 switch pins.. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 as you look at it when it's bottom left hope that helps! sim On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:01 AM, wrote: > thank you VERY much. > > One quick question: at the jacks only two prong? > > With the board facing you (like in the pictures) what color cables are > going to the left jack? I can see ablue one but can't make out the other > color or where it is going? > > thanks! > > D_ > ------=_Part_2590_9164889.1222940371138 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
sorry mate!

the jacks are 2 prong

the left one (output) has a purple wire that goes from the ring connector to earth on the back cover and a blue wire that goes from the tip connector to pin 6 on the switch

the right one (input) has a purple wire that goes from the ring connector to the board (solder joint immediately left of the fixing screw top right) and a yellow wire that goes from the tip connector to pin 5 on the switch

pin 1 on the switch (green) goes to the bottom circuit board
pin 2 (yellow) goes to top circuit board (top right)
pin 3 (brown) goes to top circuit board (as seen in pic)
pin 4 (black) goes to earth on the casing near the on/off switch
pin 5 (yellow) goes to input tip
pin 6 (blue) goes to output tip
pin 7 (empty)
pin 8 (yellow) goes to pin 9


switch pins..

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

as you look at it when it's bottom left


hope that helps!

sim




On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:01 AM, <legion@helpwantedproductions.com> wrote:
thank you VERY much.

One quick question: at the jacks only two prong?

With the board facing you (like in the pictures) what color cables are
going to the left jack? I can see ablue one but can't make out the other
color or where it is going?

thanks!

D_

------=_Part_2590_9164889.1222940371138-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 10:36:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 337AE3BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:36:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 06:34:19 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48E4A3AB.2000702@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:36:56 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 10:53:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3ADC3BEA2; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=7E8Su1/C0rMzw5hLIHAWXFG+FlGNuDzZYHq6hoiG61o=; b=BM7uRcRMAfGpW6mi5qLo326ninZL6PtMlzddGbtAEXZ4sEGgxFi1MjU3SjjRp7WyJG KHXxs8+JR6WR6Pjjco18wbFkHWTnVp9lD+UP0XQFyn8lImjsPBXUg5RpAlN8Wx/isbeM uLs4OUXr5LQ4E9O50NrsjnaydNe3MnyMaHGRc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=n93Z2IdkEPuLKYIf+xKQOyyMw6ZsH37+WIS4bUv2PCm1VeUTVbyLYjQufPJ1dmZi7z KgD7iCNnc7LZjrlZzhGRTrK+PoCLqcfh/WVo95N7cErVo+u433xisMgKHjQh8VhoAfo8 0yzXMbb6I8iY8ZXUqphMwaWGZxiKJDeSkWGNw= Message-ID: <101191640810020353y6a924836ha698f12ac93c68ff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:53:11 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS In-Reply-To: <48E48E7B.1070309@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> <48E48E7B.1070309@mhorse.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e6c11d48aac98df0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Happy Birthday to one of my heroes and a man I'm honored to call my friend. Here's to another grand cycle through the next 55! Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 10:58:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E41F3BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=zMfnJt3b1Wk6ZgkP+TnXk7Ik77fTeo+uYSV5De0OqGM=; b=JbAYkhjB8ZI0u4s2G+DPrVbm8pZEJ1hDwC18PRN6g2eN61s28uLeTZMepPvIVbH1FO W9pC9HHgvWM+jSYqQc/f8j8cf57f6SDEqbHS4uw3MjpFerWvCPc1eJJDJ7MkaF77NBS7 r8TrPTKz+bHL6H7PD3lySwM8PrTSF3yQixhJU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=orA1OkIkiAcmgIA0JyFrfpbeu/YAneKYITUbXlRwZqpjQV6nb4+MXDEEWjDWlcNwV7 QCN4tK/e6FKLp+TBRGBbDKYchY0X4RTNDOYzPs97gr/VOiM2djzuhehmE5CM/ZxsX60u XiAP5RSH51ZpfGZD6qnuehrLy8LYrGTsaPm6s= Message-ID: <101191640810020358o770d34dft792aa3a62c371d1e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 06:58:31 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K8 FULL COLOR COMMEMORATIVE T-SHIRT orders open for this week only In-Reply-To: <1c3a4db00810012027i51b2f5bn4d95e3f41d65593d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48E43A0B.4000506@cruzio.com> <1c3a4db00810012027i51b2f5bn4d95e3f41d65593d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4749552743435053 Resent-Message-ID: <-Wjpe.A.k7.ZlK5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Can't be at the loopfest this year, but the Y2K4 shirt helped get me my job (I wore it to the interview as a test of whether the company was evolved enough to recognize its ultimate coolness - and they were. Thanks, Ted). I'm committing right now if you'll ship (I'll pay the postage). 1 Large, please. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 11:31:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08AA53BE7B; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:31:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7hcbbnLF3BJQJllEDc6hmuGMVBh7MfTZMU35ZVLvMCY=; b=mZs3rVYnFiolqG9vyk+9FcobgNW1uIgOat0r0JnoBTea2JhKhd9Bk2PYLYd90CHFtw scTeQ/8SB8eu26f17DC7I1B5ii/7mm5K6Amqsqed2FWG7HcFyvUMLyYfEI9E2r5aAZya 1obfDrlRufgD3PV1Pv43N2kJoMknmpHVkNQBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=AoqFNka0z1/qPv7tb9y6Knh8FZ9HvvhNYqAZewY5tawN3qQdnDDjZKsYT6vlCbbqfl A4/TDX8TW/0+3co4gARMRzMUyb7reSmhgbj0WRXidjgOV+Gm+60aFNkSfSaACwoGEKtn U3b7LZRQebWUtHDr/jnwkF3xKzwhqJHuXc12M= Message-ID: <4759e5740810020431u66aedc1eja75d88e655f36b32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:31:44 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1099_31518152.1222947104735" References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:31:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1099_31518152.1222947104735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cheers, Rick Happy Birthday! 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cheers, Rick

Happy Birthday!  

Todd


------=_Part_1099_31518152.1222947104735-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 11:50:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 235BE3BE90; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:50:36 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: The ethics of software emulations? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:50:38 +0000 (UTC) > Stefan wrote: > Sorry, but the MDA DX10 is not emulating a DX 7, it does FM, yes, but a= > DX 7 has 6 operators, all freeware emulators I have seen won't do more = > than 4. Not enough to get that DX 7 feeling... > > The only one I know is commercial from NI, but I'd be glad to hear a > different story... Yep. I still use a DX7, and it can produce much richer sounds than a 4-op= erator FM synth like the DX21...which is logical. Btw: NI FM8 uses 8 oper= ators. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A --- Reeds meer dan 2000 Scarlet klanten betalen geen abonnement meer! Doe mee en surf ook gratis! >> http://www.scarlet.be/nl/mgm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 12:50:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F63A3BE94; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XIXEjaZYc690v1r5wd9Dh5q5uY+o1REdyHqitK58ILc=; b=a8Gh5+p7+5NkG/DVypJcNVk+IBo0EjrdViktbG39rU/Z8RTnBSKg2S9LFFUpErHh7o 1lYD8/OLKueVhvnOnrkUp51HoJ8aidX5H1F42UJYqc7thZEQpV9MoX/e60WeefRQtQ7O Oeq+xS+B9DtvoUl2xb7sJa9UGIi5G//sP++iM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=DzutQMIqtA2vfufXgFC8Ef/vlAQNbwdtIJ5J+yiUue6eUvqfjLyKVgG/g1Z8RV1+sS mhHSw+7itspnyKT8lFyHv74GPRNa4nx3xWAns8sq0vsoER7xuTO+zFngXp6gAJxNrDah x/VrPl4FhFiGCEVHxLeSRuvNep+Nw4902lGMY= Message-ID: <588ce11d0810020550i35815dbdy6d49508c0ca9941e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 05:50:43 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The ethics of software emulations? In-Reply-To: <48E4823C.5080009@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <588ce11d0809262043j613958d3ma6c716987e08623a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0809270251p78b0d5ftfcb4d49ea7ee765b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60809270349j15758bb6ra7b671240df0f049@mail.gmail.com> <101191640809270608k360c6d57ged29d8e916cbd375@mail.gmail.com> <48E4823C.5080009@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Hexter is a freeware DX7 emulation: http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1980.html I haven't used it much, but I was pleased it loaded my old DX7 sysex patches. Definitely worth a try. FM Heaven is good http://www.loftsoft.co.uk/ but it's $70 Other than the NI version, I don't know of any others. On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 1:11 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Chris Sewell schrieb: >> >> By the way, DX7 emulations are one of the most common free instruments out >> there. MDA has one that pretty good. But there are no shortage of them. > > Sorry, but the MDA DX10 is not emulating a DX 7, it does FM, yes, but a DX 7 > has 6 operators, all freeware emulators I have seen won't do more than 4. > Not enough to get that DX 7 feeling... > > The only one I know is commercial from NI, but I'd be glad to hear a > different story... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 12:58:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F4333BE95; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EydcWopINURo5neztL0b2a5zxkYNl63g4lbWpeDO+SU=; b=bLpPFoIXfyZKmIJEC8m1oEb7MAIeOStPZ0+tnC/24Vi98AJoJw56/hUgZYr+SXgBFs EvlJRvdJisDia0OlTmnNXrJUscUD/tBoXqLB1PvTaG5+INIbhbeKflim2o1W1gil+hit eWlA1f8rCF7dF7c3ZH253hZ/dakfnsqixZ6zs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=LwdU7uRYYJslKi9L4yr0l8/m9IHxLqPSx5p7XNss6OH1fKnRCXivXYllij8i+sMsHj 7PFUXavPbdTo6IzwBh27uKtVMa/deYCzzM44/9iDzEQ/riIAYickSsybvX/PfThPzW2g s/3rF4ec5DF7ryqGjD0iLyox7aoaW3gP5rDPs= Message-ID: <4759e5740810020558p708888clba784b6084b1646c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 08:58:10 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Y2K8 FULL COLOR COMMEMORATIVE T-SHIRT [NPR EQUIVALENCY TEST] In-Reply-To: <4759e5740810020550n1143460ah224f379a87b34ba8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3519_9473976.1222952290442" References: <4759e5740810020550n1143460ah224f379a87b34ba8@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:58:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3519_9473976.1222952290442 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Greetings, list... As someone who's not able to attend the Loopfest for yet another year! (I'll be close, just obligated to perform somewhere else, which is even more infuriating!) And as someone who has just gone through yet another NPR fund drive (which always awakens me to the fact that quality has to be paid for EXTRA in our society, often) When I saw that yet another Y2K t-shirt was coming down the pike and that they'd only be available at the aforementioned, and for me, unattendable shows, I decided to handle it this way: With the economy tanking, I'm just going to throw out a little donation toward Rick and the Festival above and beyond the price of a t-shirt, in hopes that he'll throw it in the envelope and send it to me. Your desire to contribute may vary, and I don't wish to be the arbiter of said contributions, but by 'above and beyond', might I offer as a suggestion at least twice as much as the t-shirt itself which is $20 or $22 dollars. Each donation would help to cover probably an evening of a staff member, greatly smoothing the experience for everyone. My humble contribution to the folks from whom I receive so much on this list, and to our collective art. Bests, Todd Reynolds -- In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, Then on to California with Meredith Monk. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic -- In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, Then on to California with Meredith Monk. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_3519_9473976.1222952290442 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Greetings, lis= t... 

As someone who's not able to attend the L= oopfest for yet another year! (I'll be close, just obligated to perform= somewhere else, which is even more infuriating!)

And as someone who has just gone through yet another NP= R fund drive (which always awakens me to the fact that quality has to be pa= id for EXTRA in our society, often)

When I saw tha= t yet another Y2K t-shirt was coming down the pike and that they'd only= be available at the aforementioned, and for me, unattendable shows, I deci= ded to handle it this way:  With the economy tanking, I'm just goi= ng to throw out a little donation toward Rick and the Festival above and be= yond the price of a t-shirt, in hopes that he'll throw it in the envelo= pe and send it to me.  Your desire to contribute may vary, and I don&#= 39;t wish to be the arbiter of said contributions, but by 'above and be= yond', might I offer as a suggestion at least twice as much as the t-sh= irt itself which is $20 or $22 dollars.  Each donation would help to c= over probably an evening of a staff member, greatly smoothing the experienc= e for everyone.  

My humble contribution to the folks from whom I receive= so much on this list, and to our collective art. 

Bests,

Todd Reynolds  

--
In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October,
Then on to California with= Meredith Monk.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic=




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In New York from the 2nd to 14th of = October,
Then on to California with Meredith Monk.

http://blog.toddreynolds.com
http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic<= /a>

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BEST REGARDS, MINISTER; MARVIN ROBINSON. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 13:37:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B79403BE99; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <016001c92493$fd827eb0$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:37:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp6.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: <1wKs8C.A.O7F.Q6M5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:37:20 +0000 (UTC) HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BRò fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 8:04 AM Subject: 55 HELIAL LOOPS > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a > Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS > GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1702 - Release > Date: 01/10/2008 9.05 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 13:45:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5A9B3BE99; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=2TA7z0ZG8mVFSfWfvnPQCe5CTOQf8pqcBnz/cbf06ho=; b=rqeRFR12I8K7Grybgy39XdFQ7aGNPiFFHZBVUeEjIp6pHOcgNUFGLpOR1W0rKGYzTK J6G0eBl3nfacG8wU3xhAhIw4UKjgXXveWF3GjzOe7gdCTpNer3xUQRdv4TPKnay3S8w6 9oO33ICdMJ70trhbTriVADCybhQZv9mTHw6Dk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Oi8pRYujqZp4bS6N5qmBdRq18hvNNsibDC2qA+ZhTjE/kjZUINjvsuSJ/c0lKIYl6e 9b1Tc5o0M681TbsbNtXMXrSzjEdEwB1a23dkbasDTRgJQZHzMEObjIPgBCgT97nxBGER ZfrZEV8yMgAFcVMEvt9ofMSviUk+yznhEeOa8= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810020645g36c8faa3nbef556c66cded469@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:45:29 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_76730_17784054.1222955129395" References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:45:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_76730_17784054.1222955129395 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Rick happy birthday - that's pretty neat re a loop concept. Jim On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:04 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a > Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS > GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_76730_17784054.1222955129395 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Rick happy birthday - that's pretty neat re a loop concept.
 
Jim

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:04 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Tonight at 2 a.m.  I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun.

Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and
as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP,  a Repeater,
a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB,
I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil.

I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use.  Any suggestions?

I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist.

Rick Walker
(glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community)




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_76730_17784054.1222955129395-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 14:08:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F4A63BE91; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:07:39 -0300 References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: <-g3DGD.A.kxG.GXN5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:08:06 +0000 (UTC) youhou! go on spiraling towards the light, Rick! BrotherSync was really meant to turn into a HeartSync and you showed that HeartSync can be huge even without BrotherSync... :-) well, just enjoy your day, only do things you like... ...how about a cookie with a chocolate in that beautiful bakery you are blessed with? kisses Matthias On 2 Oct 2008, at 03:04, Rick Walker wrote: > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an > EDP, a Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by > MATHIAS GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 14:17:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E948E3BEA0; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=S+OTFMPh86OvUIE/oFwlt301HoO864sote9zWvynpVo=; b=KJsv9CQxEpa5L0eRDkRc7Hxw0hcqKimFq0qmwK02TO/lD81BqKziVIylEdxoqbL9nK 4BI8ojxz4ubIgPJWQMYOZzIPsKGvnvAPH0o0B9Is/uppSknOaqGRQRkSYkJbkbGj50B9 oThU0BNHgtnqe2EZwYElwmXyfe7iWriNxGcUU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=KMT0t+bVwZeK5GFd34jwvbmBUmkqnX1UhgBydOX4Nd5TdHPm2lDGQ+NxFJPo6t9gO7 +rN3R6Qtz6zm/o73grYSCQyrc/OOImPMjuVsoZX0lWyMAhZR5pzLLvWw5gfBm8Vib9dk OAdG6yM5rjaCGBdcaYAK7knVFJPg28h9yqxIs= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:17:54 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4297_18733881.1222957074594" References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:17:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4297_18733881.1222957074594 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Happy Birthday! Around and around we go, where we stop... nobody knows. ;) On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:04 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a > Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS > GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_4297_18733881.1222957074594 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Happy Birthday!

Around and around we go,

where we stop...

nobody knows. ;)


On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:04 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Tonight at 2 a.m.  I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun.

Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and
as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP,  a Repeater,
a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB,
I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil.

I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use.  Any suggestions?

I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist.

Rick Walker
(glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community)




--
-==-=-=-
Tony
------=_Part_4297_18733881.1222957074594-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 14:20:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E765F3BEA2; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1uTtwL+lBhNHXscrv9v/73CMzO5FPcq1Rsx5m4hF11Y=; b=EtrC7JceIjRYUb1vinCsCFDie+rXuWav7lnBFO5HkV6i/IV7QM3r/rZ4D9XIQvkhNb CuPktIBie4qX+FdS7MkKUZrbrmK5P7GXSAu5+xNSgKMx6Jdo+lJqGPPbeH1ZfiQfMH6G kAuQ8JLG9kxAvG+tm91K86dp20nj4mIDtUFuE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mgVeeKaP0l6thp9STsLfXlpmweJQIkQG3HZxZVMI6nZDngjCkeF0EO9awa/tB3j8EN c1ioumrDWzS1wSiqLm7J8JSUYBuRawRmzfOIF1vISpNeYuw68Xc06gKGfgV0wksGsVyN np1mYfnIUMRq0YWEhC9pCy/EL2u5Ml/6Qo7Ts= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:20:27 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi envelope generator In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:20:30 +0000 (UTC) Maybe a software synth is not what you meant, but you can do this with Reaktor if you control it from MIDI sliders. I am working on a thing like this that generates envelopes and turns them into MIDI CC data. I'm going to use it to control Tesla coils, but it would work for other applications as well! -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 14:21:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6CC03BEBA; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 07:21:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Rick, Happy birthay oh Orange One . . . or Green . . . or Purple. May the rest of your day be Dayglo Plastic. Best regards, Ted Killian "I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that=20 dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might=20 actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times On Oct 1, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, =20= > a Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS=20= > GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 14:40:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F993BE91; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=noMQH0wDB-cA:10 a=a_o6QttNH30A:10 a=RL48qi03AAAA:8 a=6Tni9NYEke9oi7Uw9qsA:9 a=TQ9K3MvF2QZM27ndawD_ufxUss8A:4 a=ziFrdkHw70AA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48E4823C.5080009@addcom.de> References: <588ce11d0809262043j613958d3ma6c716987e08623a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0809270251p78b0d5ftfcb4d49ea7ee765b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60809270349j15758bb6ra7b671240df0f049@mail.gmail.com> <101191640809270608k360c6d57ged29d8e916cbd375@mail.gmail.com> <48E4823C.5080009@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <47802707-5F38-4280-A0EA-65680D1BDA36@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: The ethics of software emulations? Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:40:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <6Tzo4B.A.5zH.s1N5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:40:44 +0000 (UTC) Don't be sorry, I learned something. Thats a good thing. But this supports my other point that someone robustly disagreed with, and that is commercial soft instruments and effects are by and large superior to the free stuff. On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:11 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Chris Sewell schrieb: >> By the way, DX7 emulations are one of the most common free >> instruments out there. MDA has one that pretty good. But there are >> no shortage of them. > > Sorry, but the MDA DX10 is not emulating a DX 7, it does FM, yes, > but a DX 7 has 6 operators, all freeware emulators I have seen > won't do more than 4. Not enough to get that DX 7 feeling... > > The only one I know is commercial from NI, but I'd be glad to hear > a different story... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 14:47:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 337563BEB2; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:47:43 EDT Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c60.2c9bb1b7.3616390f_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:47:50 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c60.2c9bb1b7.3616390f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 55 huh.....i can't think back that far.....remember you're not getting older, just prettier!......happy happy rickeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!.....s.g. 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(http://www.walletpop.com/?NCI= D=3Demlcntuswall00000001) --part1_c60.2c9bb1b7.3616390f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 15:15:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C04723BE95; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:15:43 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810012311i5ad13c66h4023271fc353754@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081002151543.254780@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> <66f9cc1e0810012311i5ad13c66h4023271fc353754@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18e9GF2SkUe6I6dd9N6KDuT/Kl1K80PWvAm/TJ3jM 88I9V5LCbQpFQ9mqZ8n3+zqJ3BvyB7mbUblQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: 16OCIu4VaHItJdNJ3SQlxXliamdhZESE Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Happy birthday, Rick - keep on looping (music- and sun-wise ;-) -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 15:59:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C31CB3BE8E; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3608 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 15:59:04 UTC MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Axf8za+0Pmm2rA9/L+Lqfw)" Message-id: <29413D68-E8A7-429A-908E-4D6F3EA14925@mac.com> From: Caroline Glass To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Mint cond. Looperlative $900 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:58:45 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 15:59:04 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_Axf8za+0Pmm2rA9/L+Lqfw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all, I've reduced the price of my like-new Looperlative to $900. It was bought earlier this year, works perfectly and has two newly added components from Bob Amstadt which make the floor noise lower than previous versions of the machine. Please feel free to email me at carogo@mac.com Thanks, Caroline --Boundary_(ID_Axf8za+0Pmm2rA9/L+Lqfw) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi all,
I've reduced the price of my like-new Looperlative to $900. It was bought earlier this year, works perfectly and has two newly added components from Bob Amstadt which make the floor noise lower than previous versions of the machine.
Please feel free to email me at carogo@mac.com
Thanks,
Caroline
--Boundary_(ID_Axf8za+0Pmm2rA9/L+Lqfw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 16:13:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1F63BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Vo1dXVnVzzaGndUpkpzqdCAcipzjj3VnCdggplAjOQ0=; b=Bnfwoaomw+xbTxcnkntUWZg3xhDqOxNNdKIt5kUNigfetOWf/W+pQZt9auRsQyfRcK vpppicjvTOlIMhiUx19QcLnrUG1WjAH559wQUm+QTkLFtx4BaxTnGVq2PymC2y3ngW4b Nbge/Q8fMe+1wki3sRzicZnhLPlAeLERER4xQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=AUhcxcP0gDNcUPG32orPjvuok2yjC6wzLjgv5Y7RuFqu85layI84b9rSl0sV2kuQ0a 26awDcBgVuDGR/LTrybvJ1wcIYv/e7Q8+rFVov8XhhkT9NzoNTOiJdNxOO3/46Pd7YCg EfojfbVKpl150qjqSxxuDcWO/tFbaQYQT9nl8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ariel Rzezak Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:13:02 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <__Dw2.A.U3C.kMP5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:13:24 +0000 (UTC) Happy cicles! You're really a great guy Rick, and i thank you for everything. Very very best wishes fly there, Ariel. El 02/10/2008, a las 03:04, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an =20 > EDP, a Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by =20 > MATHIAS GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 16:30:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D3513BE91; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:MIME-Version:content-class:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=i02XX9nMEw6K3Mlf61kuzToIj7Ly+BFBr5Vh5yQX328stFtdoeQzBWPmufKDidd7GrcAfNypgbRfoi/uanj06gAipKJ2QtvUacU9lqoJ6Rqr9VTaxxuS22jZ2ltW3C9yrPK3Ld3V03DZj3EELQb0iMDCKVWTIRGWCPpoplWhyhs= ; X-YMail-OSG: Sx8qEt8VM1nnBMAOJKsZw5uHg63kPkUpHrX3QNhneaC9da3lrjm.hKa9IrI3hD7ZNyHLSLnqSh8URyFt5lyWZuUMn.46icGN3qXz7TRSnbaiFma5cHOr_Z062fdlQQv2PZwJ_AWxhox07To5MkGXLDUewVfTJ.6KrzgYfL_M3dGLdcr3Zg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: Ricky Graham Subject: RE: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:29:48 +0100 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <20081002163001.36E943BE8B@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Happy Birthday, Rick. Hopefully have you back in Ireland before long. Hope = to see you at Y2k9 too. Take care, Ricky -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker Sent: 02 October 2008 07:04 To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a=20 Repeater, a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB= , I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. Rick Walker (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 16:31:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 813583BEA4; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:31:30 -0500 Subject: RE: repeater OS 2.0 Thread-Topic: repeater OS 2.0 Thread-Index: AckkNyL9G16484YhQXi6We95nkr+jgAdMstA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C351300F8@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> In-Reply-To: <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:31:35 +0000 (UTC) > now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS > anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so... You can get it from the repeater-users Yahoo group. http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/repeater-users/files/ AFAIK this is still owned by some legal entity, but they don't seem to care. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 16:47:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B04D3BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:47:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_fa9139a6-45eb-43a0-bc8e-ffca0b484845_" X-Originating-IP: [99.246.89.216] From: Dave Lauzon To: Subject: RE: Mint cond. Looperlative $900 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:47:30 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <29413D68-E8A7-429A-908E-4D6F3EA14925@mac.com> References: <29413D68-E8A7-429A-908E-4D6F3EA14925@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2008 16:47:30.0528 (UTC) FILETIME=[8F628E00:01C924AE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:47:31 +0000 (UTC) --_fa9139a6-45eb-43a0-bc8e-ffca0b484845_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Caroline=2C as long as shipping is reasonable I'll take it. Dave From: carogo@mac.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Mint cond. Looperlative $900 Date: Thu=2C 2 Oct 2008 16:58:45 +0200 Hi all=2CI've reduced the price of my like-new Looperlative to $900. It was= bought earlier this year=2C works perfectly and has two newly added compon= ents from Bob Amstadt which make the floor noise lower than previous versio= ns of the machine.Please feel free to email me at carogo@mac.comThanks=2CCa= roline=0A= _________________________________________________________________ --_fa9139a6-45eb-43a0-bc8e-ffca0b484845_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Caroline=2C
as long as shipping is reasonable I'll take it.

Dave
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From: carogo@mac.com
To: Loopers-D= elight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Mint cond. Looperlative $900
Date= : Thu=2C 2 Oct 2008 16:58:45 +0200

Hi all=2C
I've reduced the pr= ice of my like-new Looperlative to $900. It was bought earlier this year=2C= works perfectly and has =3Btwo newly added components from Bob Amstadt wh= ich make the floor noise lower than previous versions of the machine.
Please feel free to email me at =3Bcarogo@mac.com
Thanks=2C
Caroline
=0A=
Get your information fix on your phone. With MSN Mobile you get= regular news=2C sports and =A0finance updates. Try it today! = --_fa9139a6-45eb-43a0-bc8e-ffca0b484845_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 16:54:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C6A23BE9E; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <29413D68-E8A7-429A-908E-4D6F3EA14925@mac.com> Subject: Re: Mint cond. Looperlative $900 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 09:54:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01C92474.E53E6E50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:54:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C92474.E53E6E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Caroline's LP1 will still be covered by warranty by whoever purchases = it. Bob Amstadt ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C92474.E53E6E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Caroline's LP1 will still be covered by warranty = by=20 whoever purchases it.
 
Bob Amstadt
------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C92474.E53E6E50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 17:07:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA90A3BEA9; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60963.72.51.1222967230.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:07:10 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <2krCc.A.tXE.--P5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, May you be one with the music of the spheres. :) Happy B-Day. Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Thu, October 2, 2008 2:04 am, Rick Walker wrote: > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a > Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS > GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 17:08:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA3793BEA6; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 69308368 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: repeater OS 2.0 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:08:41 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E5324@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: repeater OS 2.0 Thread-Index: AckksYTypkCP2PyRSVOLwvz1+Rs1rQ== References: <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2008 17:08:41.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[853D7AE0:01C924B1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:08:43 +0000 (UTC) I'm sure one of us can email it to you.... :-) somewhere I have a saved sent mail with the files & instructions.... let me see..... ok, it will come from my other address later today. duncan.=20 -----Original Message----- From: tyler newman [mailto:tyler@batterycage.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 2:58 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: repeater OS 2.0 hi- now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so... any input would be quite helpful. thanks! - tyler / battery cage - www.batterycage.com CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 17:21:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C33AF3BEA2; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c4722136-92d4-4856-8566-b0626ec622ba_" X-Originating-IP: [99.246.89.216] From: Dave Lauzon To: Subject: RE: repeater OS 2.0 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:21:07 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E5324@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> References: <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E5324@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2008 17:21:07.0420 (UTC) FILETIME=[418BD9C0:01C924B3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 17:21:08 +0000 (UTC) --_c4722136-92d4-4856-8566-b0626ec622ba_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had no idea you could get os 2.0 for the hardware unit. I would be very = very interested. =20 > Subject: RE: repeater OS 2.0 > Date: Thu=2C 2 Oct 2008 18:08:41 +0100 > From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > I'm sure one of us can email it to you.... :-) >=20 > somewhere I have a saved sent mail with the files & instructions.... let > me see..... ok=2C it will come from my other address later today. >=20 > duncan.=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: tyler newman [mailto:tyler@batterycage.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday=2C October 02=2C 2008 2:58 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: repeater OS 2.0 >=20 > hi- >=20 > now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore? > i'm happy to pay for it=2C but don't know where to do so... >=20 > any input would be quite helpful. >=20 > thanks! >=20 > - tyler / battery cage > - www.batterycage.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >=20 > This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 > copyright (and other intellectual property rights). 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I had no idea = you could get os 2.0 for the hardware unit. =3B I would be very very in= terested. =3B



>=3B Subj= ect: RE: repeater OS 2.0
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 2 Oct 2008 18:08:41 +0100>=3B From: goddard.duncan@mtvne.com
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=3B
>=3B I'm sure one of us can email it to you.= ... :-)
>=3B
>=3B somewhere I have a saved sent mail with the fi= les &=3B instructions.... let
>=3B me see..... ok=2C it will come f= rom my other address later today.
>=3B
>=3B duncan.
>=3B <= br>>=3B -----Original Message-----
>=3B From: tyler newman [mailto:t= yler@batterycage.com]
>=3B Sent: Thursday=2C October 02=2C 2008 2:58 = AM
>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B Subject: rep= eater OS 2.0
>=3B
>=3B hi-
>=3B
>=3B now that Electri= x is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore?
>=3B i'm happy= to pay for it=2C but don't know where to do so...
>=3B
>=3B any= input would be quite helpful.
>=3B
>=3B thanks!
>=3B
&= gt=3B - tyler / battery cage
>=3B - www.batterycage.com
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= >=3B
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Get your information = fix on your phone. With MSN Mobile you get regular news=2C sports and =A0fi= nance updates. Try it t= oday! = --_c4722136-92d4-4856-8566-b0626ec622ba_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 18:17:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DC2F3BE8F; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=CQD9e6tfBCQF1g7vT2KJqUDjQ3rcB52HuG1I2AzE0fM=; b=xaHlYxKncADhWbPfY5UwyV4nLk6QfR6EfjkvB4iFVgMJtyF1SoPdPVvBmX5rgTKGuH cl9C/9NdsNLNBforK5pdeRVzPR+ofvw1awKGXW9x604kVdV9Ww+uQ5P2Pg094RPkLuOE PvVM7fmzWoUgkyN6EQI2bDG3Disr5MZIt5tlE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=qT3sL7QAKka9RjQ4sRmC8HOGKtfmsjXjwdM7DYq9zFmm3ycUzNX5wM7CvMIyasQLuP QOboU1d/tBAlFAn8/29m+tckSAQoHGAH3gHNoqpq8OTaPK5Hnm4M3AlSlYbkRoR/W/Os XbbjKHfU62xHnlMBO1k+Vxnj3/xqfZlBd8c0Y= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810021117ldb534b9k880e482de28a9147@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:17:18 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi envelope generator In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7438_8790972.1222971438149" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 60274a1ba3c5ed83 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:17:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7438_8790972.1222971438149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I love my RedSound Federation... its a DJ tool... kinda ADSR, more of a "cutter" with filter 3types, delay, old skool sounding (reggie music) and a ker-razy panner, that pans diferent frequency ranges... bit of a footprind(tabletop device) but a... ummm what to you yanks call it... um... oh yes... a doozy! M On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) < emile@foryourhead.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I keep thinking I could use a hardware midi envelope generator, something > that had, say, 4 sliders for ADSR, a switch for looping, a slider for loop > rate and a push button trigger. Does such a device exist? > > ------=_Part_7438_8790972.1222971438149 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I love my RedSound Federation... its a DJ tool... kinda ADSR, more of a "cutter" with filter 3types, delay, old skool sounding (reggie music) and a ker-razy panner, that pans diferent frequency ranges... bit of a footprind(tabletop device) but a... ummm what to you yanks call it... um... oh yes... a doozy!

M



On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) <emile@foryourhead.com> wrote:
Hi,

I keep thinking I could use a hardware midi envelope generator, something that had, say, 4 sliders for ADSR, a switch for looping, a slider for loop rate and a push button trigger. Does such a device exist?


------=_Part_7438_8790972.1222971438149-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 18:48:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7ED43BE91; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: 55 HELIAL LOOPS Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:48:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> Thread-Index: AckkVMxJB2KFgz0eTNGrf+4zX8MnjwAaopVA Message-Id: <20081002184854.3C9F33BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:48:54 +0000 (UTC) Happy birthday, Rick--just stay away from that big UNDO, okay? dave Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a Repeater, a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB, I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. Rick Walker (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 19:37:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DEBE3BE8B; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=rSBiSWOKiMnitHxtKRdKr6jhPTZKOymMXRBaInhIKJHcIRak3/T8oYo3drPvJVcc; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <15128347.1222976219411.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:36:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: eventide time factor Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e51960688850c2dc5c019329ae7afa6ab75f27e36350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.51 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:37:00 +0000 (UTC)

I used to live in the same town as Elliot back in the 70s and we would record many nights in my small basement 4 track studio.  We did some tunes using two Revox A77s for looping, although I don't think this is one of them  But I do like his guitar sound here

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=162925&content=music 4th song down on the page, Natural Selection.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Peters
Sent: Oct 2, 2008 2:21 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: RE: eventide time factor

> i have been playing with the new eventide time factor which i plan to use on a show with elliott sharp here in istanbul 
 
oh how much I'd love to see that!  what a cool combination of artists.
 
-Michael
 
 
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 20:05:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A76A03BE91; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:05:07 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=0a6Geocgi5nrS8nA3+Vidpt+WUjcC9IPaa2NM77G/T+bd3xQLl0VAjwakLlUTZ2Tc8gSAODsXMYdmWXGZ/eROrpmr0chvmrpkicDQnT9bUxvZ8QePWRrXcR0oRR2GmPBDVzxOdkRPPbca8ioL/TAGoXwXNh7IT09h/r9yQhUbkI=; X-YMail-OSG: OGlYqjMVM1lYI4WteBQqufKcLQUl.uc3mbcAOB26QZZbBTp0DHewTUK1HsOSMmegxRn8LCTPcGxF514B_yeRKMrYvdSPXO3oc038uyysfwOyyRPpyJc2E3lj0RvOyeR8_vVK.l1ZYhhdk5_quGkJSkK9Krx_Ug-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:58:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Why a DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1928870548-1222977505=:22033" Message-ID: <693347.22033.qm@web42107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:05:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-1928870548-1222977505=:22033 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =A0 I'm new to the community and fairly new to looping, but am a FOR (Friend of= Rick) and he's finally gotten me to come over to the dark side... I'm looping and enjoying the heck out of it. =A0 On Rick's recommendation I picked up a DL4.=A0 I understand that it's highl= y regarded in this community, and often preferred over the Boss RC20XL. =A0 Rick's been swamped organizing the festival, so I haven't been able to put = this question to him directly, and figured I'd ask it here. =A0 On other musical communities (primarily bass players) I see the Boss genera= lly preferred over the DL4.=A0 The reasons generally cited are sturdiness, = longer loop time, and "undo" function. =A0 The loop time on the DL4 is fine for me, and I can't speak to sturdiness be= cause I haven't had it long.=A0 The lack of an "undo" is a bit of a bother,= but I can live with it. =A0 But I'm curious - if you prefer a DL4, why?=A0 I'd like to better understan= d the advantages of this tool. =A0 Thanks for sharing your insights, =A0 JK --0-1928870548-1222977505=:22033 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi,
 
I'm new to the community and fairly new to looping, but am a FOR (Friend of Rick) and he's finally gotten me to come over to the dark side...
I'm looping and enjoying the heck out of it.
 
On Rick's recommendation I picked up a DL4.  I understand that it's highly regarded in this community, and often preferred over the Boss RC20XL.
 
Rick's been swamped organizing the festival, so I haven't been able to put this question to him directly, and figured I'd ask it here.
 
On other musical communities (primarily bass players) I see the Boss generally preferred over the DL4.  The reasons generally cited are sturdiness, longer loop time, and "undo" function.
 
The loop time on the DL4 is fine for me, and I can't speak to sturdiness because I haven't had it long.  The lack of an "undo" is a bit of a bother, but I can live with it.
 
But I'm curious - if you prefer a DL4, why?  I'd like to better understand the advantages of this tool.
 
Thanks for sharing your insights,
 
JK
--0-1928870548-1222977505=:22033-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 20:21:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 219443BE94; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=T7mwCL7rAyc2We5ygMbT2LKjNGLlNWcs1eSgzbVTvw0=; b=Vdk+H+xdS+xhxm7EurNSrTHEiwH8JMkfYjY3e8kk2JdRUuLMTl0kNbEOz21JMBHNH/ +ES1Z1dXj94A8LwhavGWa+FLTb1CAqOt+7igqoabkHKZk7KsUooISSMmAGO7CEEbEr4/ 8t0u4CQD5Gc8MJ2jX1ep/x0quYnd7uAcJkyI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=oqpCTr3nFsX1lazvAcQlzn2g0pQDeaQG9wE9yniEABrWB6w77GgprrzNT2ifFSS++B pmgWC/UtaY2qJwimEKY6HQGzpg0mCEbI/CrTDsXpt2s/+/yu8wJiMD1X3GZcTKLdkVv5 edpZ5mL34DCOHruYWb0gzos0ic/n1Ckuv/n1A= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:21:36 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: eventide time factor In-Reply-To: <15128347.1222976219411.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8247_20619908.1222978896337" References: <15128347.1222976219411.JavaMail.root@mswamui-thinleaf.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:21:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8247_20619908.1222978896337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline lovely tune! 2008/10/2 synchro1 > I used to live in the same town as Elliot back in the 70s and we would > record many nights in my small basement 4 track studio. We did some tunes > using two Revox A77s for looping, although I don't think this is one of > them But I do like his guitar sound here > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=162925&content=music 4th > song down on the page, Natural Selection. > > > -----Original Message----- lovely > From: Michael Peters > Sent: Oct 2, 2008 2:21 AM > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: RE: eventide time factor > > > i have been playing with the new eventide time factor which i plan to > use on a show with elliott sharp here in istanbul > > oh how much I'd love to see that! what a cool combination of artists. > > -Michael > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_8247_20619908.1222978896337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
lovely tune!


2008/10/2 synchro1 <synchro1@ix.netcom.com>

I used to live in the same town as Elliot back in the 70s and we would record many nights in my small basement 4 track studio.  We did some tunes using two Revox A77s for looping, although I don't think this is one of them  But I do like his guitar sound here

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=162925&content=music 4th song down on the page, Natural Selection.



-----Original Message----- lovely
From: Michael Peters
Sent: Oct 2, 2008 2:21 AM
To: Loopers Delight
Subject: RE: eventide time factor

> i have been playing with the new eventide time factor which i plan to use on a show with elliott sharp here in istanbul 
 
oh how much I'd love to see that!  what a cool combination of artists.
 
-Michael
 
 



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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_8247_20619908.1222978896337-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 20:28:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72433BE95; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:28:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--141030047 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 13:28:25 -0700 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 20:28:34 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--141030047 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi- wow, awesome, thank you so much!! that's great, can't wait to try it out! i really appreciate it! - tyler On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > here ya go mate... > > http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c > > password = repeater > > you didn't get it from me *wink* > > sim > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:57 AM, tyler newman > wrote: > hi- > > now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS > anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so... > > any input would be quite helpful. > > thanks! > > - tyler / battery cage > - www.batterycage.com > > --Apple-Mail-1--141030047 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi-

wow, = awesome, thank you so much!! that's great, can't wait to try it = out! 

i really appreciate = it!

- tyler

On Oct 2, = 2008, at 2:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

here ya go mate...


password =3D = repeater

you didn't get it from = me *wink*

sim
=
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:57 = AM, tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com> = wrote:
hi-

now = that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore? i'm = happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so...

any input = would be quite helpful.

thanks!

- tyler / battery = cage
- www.batterycage.com

=


= --Apple-Mail-1--141030047-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 21:34:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B023BE91; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E53E4A.5010004@servingpeace.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:34:02 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psychle62@yahoo.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail References: <695035.76863.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <695035.76863.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 21:34:05 +0000 (UTC) Tim Nelson wrote: > Hi Sam, > > Yes, that's what I was getting at in the PS of my last post: the > reply-to setting in my Yahoo account IS blank. Nothing is now, nor has > ever been entered into the blank field. Yet something caused the > settings which had been working just fine for several years to work > differently. > -t- Hi Tim, That is too bad. I checked my yahoo account and with a blank Reply-To field, no Reply-To: header is added to my outgoing messages. Unfortunately it sounds like that just isn't the case for a lot of people. The list software should really strip out and replace any Reply-To headers, but I don't know if that is something that anyone can change. - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 23:25:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66B1F3BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=buyUJN73iGCNgNKz2QQccbHMRB+fFzt77lAtSHYCOfU=; b=SZ8KQLUnufQlSbxPTy2nALnHD24pZXKuMbwW7CN76phLpcFSgWPaQROQ22aGyy2WP+ zxhdukSaygQtx56Iy5YqhKtqK1v4GE2tgRacyS5flkcvEHUp0r1peHoxgHyeAdhq98O0 f2v/mAVeQwQ1AxyvRfVbVsQtyXwRn4p0swsds= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=REAPzy/SDkC713c6mu5DRd4/YZ9BVXscmqhBQBNIcXscErU1CDBDDaHQ9bz54EUqsX dDUjMLiY15VXm91lMmWPQY+f7VVqS8oY36f9ktQbPBvAjkgFJRkpHal5znvI/1QbCilj G8/G4NMhlEfAKTJ6Y8jOEGXxtg276Hz0JP6jg= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810021625o3c1050b6m89676b27de21df75@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:25:43 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS In-Reply-To: <20081002184854.3C9F33BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7571_238562.1222989943367" References: <48E4648B.1080309@cruzio.com> <20081002184854.3C9F33BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:25:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7571_238562.1222989943367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Happy birthday Ricky from Ireland! K x 2008/10/2 Dave Gallaher > Happy birthday, Rick--just stay away from that big UNDO, okay? > > dave > > > Tonight at 2 a.m. I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun. > > Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and > as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP, a > Repeater, > a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS > GROB, > I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil. > > I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use. Any suggestions? > > I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist. > > Rick Walker > (glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community) > > > > > -- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope ------=_Part_7571_238562.1222989943367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Happy birthday Ricky from Ireland!
 
K x

2008/10/2 Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net>
Happy birthday, Rick--just stay away from that big UNDO, okay?

dave


Tonight at 2 a.m.  I celebrate my 55th revolution around the Sun.

Each revolution lasts for 52 some odd weeks and
as soon as I figure out how to sync it all to a Looperlative, an EDP,  a
Repeater,
a Line 6 DL-4 and the upcoming virtual emulation of the EDP by MATHIAS GROB,
I'll finally be in looping heaven on this mortal coil.

I'm just trying to figure out what adapter to use.  Any suggestions?

I'm a celestial, hardware AND software live looping artist.

Rick Walker
(glad to be revolving with all of you in this wonderful community)







--
Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com
MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh
FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016
Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope
------=_Part_7571_238562.1222989943367-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 23:27:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 946E33BE8F; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:27:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E557C8.2030501@cruzio.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:22:48 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , KRISPEN HARTUNG , TED KILLIAN Subject: IMPORTANT BRAND NEW Y2K8 T-SHIRT ORDERING INFORMATION Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6BpQp.A.P6H.ZjV5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:27:21 +0000 (UTC) We have found that we have to have funds in hand to order the t-shirts. If you want to order a full color (on white) t-shirt commemorating the Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival please send $20 for a normal sized shirt $22 for an XX or XXX sized shirt to my PayPal account at looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot)com if you are going to pick them up at the festival. You will have to pay for the t-shirts ahead of time and we are stopping taking orders on Tuesday of this coming week due to our deadlines encroaching. There will be a picture of the t-shirt on the website in the next day or two Krispen and Ted, to you mind taking care of that little detail? yours, crazy with too much work and really turned on about music currently! Rick From service@ncua.gov Thu Oct 2 23:48:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1682 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 23:48:35 UTC Received: from smtp-4.orange.nl (smtp-4.orange.nl [193.252.22.249]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E643BE84; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 23:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-4.orange.nl (mwinf6302 [10.232.3.24]) by mwinf6310.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 540BD1C05D9F; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:20:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf6302.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E2F197000083; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:20:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ropdc01.rob.local (bzd-170ee.adsl.wanadoo.nl [81.69.142.238]) by mwinf6302.online.nl (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 273F07000081; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:20:32 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20081002232032160.273F07000081@mwinf6302.online.nl Received: from User ([80.165.116.246]) by ropdc01.rob.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:20:30 +0200 From: "NCUA" Subject: National Credit Union Administration Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:13:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_011A_01C2A9A6.2316B7F4" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2008 23:20:30.0663 (UTC) FILETIME=[763D9D70:01C924E5] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011A_01C2A9A6.2316B7F4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Untitled Document
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: IMPORTANT BRAND NEW Y2K8 T-SHIRT ORDERING INFORMATION Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 18:04:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 01:04:29 +0000 (UTC) Rick, I have sent artwork to the t-shirt people to get a test run of a single=20= shirt (I'll pay for that one). I want to solve any reproduction issues before we get to the actual run=20= of official shirts. I'll let you know how it goes. The poster has a lot of dark area with subtle texture in it . . . which=20= I want to make sure turns out right. It'll probably be Monday before I see the test shirt, but that should=20 leave time for any last minute color adjusting to get it right. BTW, I/we didn't catch it on the poster, but I was able to fix it on=20 the shirt . . . Kribophoric is spelled with an "i" not a "y" after the=20= "kr." Krispen sent me an email about it, but it's too late to change for the=20= poster by now surely. At least Kris's shirt will be spelled right. Best regards, Ted Killian "I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that=20 dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might=20 actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > We have found that we have to have funds in hand to order the = t-shirts. > If you want to order a full color (on white) t-shirt commemorating the > Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival > please send > > $20 for a normal sized shirt > $22 for an XX or XXX sized shirt > > to my PayPal account at looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot)com > > if you are going to pick them up at the festival. > > You will have to pay for the t-shirts ahead of time and we are=20 > stopping taking > orders on Tuesday of this coming week due to our deadlines = encroaching. > > There will be a picture of the t-shirt on the website in the next day=20= > or two > Krispen and Ted, to you mind taking care of that little detail? > > yours, crazy with too much work and really turned on about music=20 > currently! > Rick > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 03:12:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33C7D3BE93; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=w20jbLyheoIUrF6BQVtye9HS/RSl2EffFimmPTHAOqo=; b=n6WaNkphYGpV0FyTEBA1Wkvjt6KquD7u4l5eYh7vEinPZk+fKEDqXDbfUtKydOZTea lrsCFOMDzKQBQLQtOwfMjU+2kWbyqwhSbnolpGCIH6j6yEomoBbaWc+zlAzzWY4K0ypn 9PWEGtWNXUW53hyHN47gVN0X2j9WpHnoosRr8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=b+SMSdk0vwkaeKi/z5/+GH4fvWX26oBCNxGTfXwzcTzJz/LMxYY1TRaYLyd4UEr/R8 2PF7ilCHPHwnPbCryWYCJjO6V6K1JBFkh2cZdo8+i4VNGjWu2uv90jZMMOKdR1TzAn3c FBBFNSXvui7d2JDe8zOqAVLhbI4Qto8zL1wnM= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00810022012le0b57eqf755ab5909ebcf68@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:12:19 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: IMPORTANT BRAND NEW Y2K8 T-SHIRT ORDERING INFORMATION In-Reply-To: <5fb4bb6de94ca8e45833011e90a8b88c@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17716_26851134.1223003539492" References: <48E557C8.2030501@cruzio.com> <5fb4bb6de94ca8e45833011e90a8b88c@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 03:12:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17716_26851134.1223003539492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any pictures of the shirt yet? On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM, tEd (R) KiLLiAn wrote: > Rick, > > I have sent artwork to the t-shirt people to get a test run of a single > shirt (I'll pay for that one). > > I want to solve any reproduction issues before we get to the actual run of > official shirts. > > I'll let you know how it goes. > > The poster has a lot of dark area with subtle texture in it . . . which I > want to make sure turns out right. > > It'll probably be Monday before I see the test shirt, but that should leave > time for any last minute color adjusting to get it right. > > BTW, I/we didn't catch it on the poster, but I was able to fix it on the > shirt . . . Kribophoric is spelled with an "i" not a "y" after the "kr." > > Krispen sent me an email about it, but it's too late to change for the > poster by now surely. > > At least Kris's shirt will be spelled right. > > Best regards, > > Ted Killian > > "I've gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that > dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might > actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times > > On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > > We have found that we have to have funds in hand to order the t-shirts. >> If you want to order a full color (on white) t-shirt commemorating the >> Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival >> please send >> >> $20 for a normal sized shirt >> $22 for an XX or XXX sized shirt >> >> to my PayPal account at looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot)com >> >> if you are going to pick them up at the festival. >> >> You will have to pay for the t-shirts ahead of time and we are stopping >> taking >> orders on Tuesday of this coming week due to our deadlines encroaching. >> >> There will be a picture of the t-shirt on the website in the next day or >> two >> Krispen and Ted, to you mind taking care of that little detail? >> >> yours, crazy with too much work and really turned on about music >> currently! >> Rick >> >> >> >> >> > ------=_Part_17716_26851134.1223003539492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Any pictures of the shirt yet?

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:04 PM, tEd ® KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Rick,

I have sent artwork to the t-shirt people to get a test run of a single shirt (I'll pay for that one).

I want to solve any reproduction issues before we get to the actual run of official shirts.

I'll let you know how it goes.

The poster has a lot of dark area with subtle texture in it . . . which I want to make sure turns out right.

It'll probably be Monday before I see the test shirt, but that should leave time for any last minute color adjusting to get it right.

BTW, I/we didn't catch it on the poster, but I was able to fix it on the shirt . . . Kribophoric is spelled with an "i" not a "y" after the "kr."

Krispen sent me an email about it, but it's too late to change for the poster by now surely.

At least Kris's shirt will be spelled right.

Best regards,

Ted Killian

"I've gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times

On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:22 PM, Rick Walker wrote:

We have found that we have to have funds in hand to order the t-shirts.
If you want to order a full color (on white) t-shirt commemorating the
Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival
please send

$20  for a normal sized shirt
$22 for an XX or XXX sized shirt

to my PayPal account at       looppool(at sign)cruzio(dot)com

if you are going to pick them up at the festival.

You will have to pay for the t-shirts ahead of time and we are stopping taking
orders on Tuesday of this coming week due to our deadlines encroaching.

There will be a picture of the t-shirt on the website in the next day or two
Krispen and Ted, to you mind taking care of that little detail?

yours,  crazy with too much work and really turned on about music currently!
Rick






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References: <588ce11d0809262043j613958d3ma6c716987e08623a@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0809270251p78b0d5ftfcb4d49ea7ee765b@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60809270349j15758bb6ra7b671240df0f049@mail.gmail.com> <101191640809270608k360c6d57ged29d8e916cbd375@mail.gmail.com> <48E4823C.5080009@addcom.de> <47802707-5F38-4280-A0EA-65680D1BDA36@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <47802707-5F38-4280-A0EA-65680D1BDA36@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Chris Sewell schrieb: > and that is commercial soft instruments and effects are by and large > superior to the free stuff. 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Mr Paul Maple From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 09:55:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 107B23BE91; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:55:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KFd6NpgjBD93pLJc6wmDn0MAhIsxa+KDBqPzTL8L4Vc=; b=D+bbCRaSGiEbvRp2D01cMsCcTte98qcmAIdlTyrXYUZZEnhDHnB/ROjs/4Vi2rxmtq h7ug3gi+GRWq268fRIiURM5G7hfIYcSac6+ZuZJVI/lVzlCmknLVmfN9hOMQ0kDOfD/R WFKVYyqcTBALrn1u7zYblg1R04So+uWieYrAk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vinvMAUGYnKM+92k7YzHKnRJ75/CL3zQNOvzZpKrN1A2vFD1f113/zR8v3AUIr8n3H +UU4mOkjXRALeiUQQSWbyiUM76cmbiboVWMLw5P+HKDwrE1eHIgkTvvfUYtREQ0ZhVLg iXI0WD1UVLeHIPE705ByxPcsuR+677NQA8fP8= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 10:55:16 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 In-Reply-To: <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21685_21733166.1223027716710" References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_9LgcC.A.ddB.Gwe5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 09:55:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21685_21733166.1223027716710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline no problem i'll leave it up there for a week in case anybody else wants it sim On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM, tyler newman wrote: > hi- > wow, awesome, thank you so much!! that's great, can't wait to try it out! > > i really appreciate it! > > - tyler > > On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: > > here ya go mate... > http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c > > password = repeater > > you didn't get it from me *wink* > > sim > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:57 AM, tyler newman wrote: > >> hi- >> >> now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore? >> i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so... >> >> any input would be quite helpful. >> >> thanks! >> >> - tyler / battery cage >> - www.batterycage.com >> >> > > ------=_Part_21685_21733166.1223027716710 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
no problem

i'll leave it up there for a week in case anybody else wants it

sim

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM, tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com> wrote:
hi-

wow, awesome, thank you so much!! that's great, can't wait to try it out! 

i really appreciate it!

- tyler

On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote:

here ya go mate...


password = repeater

you didn't get it from me *wink*

sim

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:57 AM, tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com> wrote:
hi-

now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so...

any input would be quite helpful.

thanks!

- tyler / battery cage
- www.batterycage.com




------=_Part_21685_21733166.1223027716710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 14:11:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF3BE3BE88; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 67723449 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C92561.EF7D0041" Subject: RE: repeater OS 2.0 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:11:31 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E5622@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: repeater OS 2.0 Thread-Index: AcklYe+JN9YungwLQBiEFgZmY9OxMg== References: <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2008 14:11:31.0938 (UTC) FILETIME=[EFA4CC20:01C92561] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:11:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92561.EF7D0041 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable stopping & starting & reversing individual tracks. I haven't got much further than that yet...... :-)=20 =20 there's some other stuff; I had forgotten until I returned to the rehearsal room after an overnight power-down, that the thing retains various settings now, like "dry muted"..... the midi channel is set in s/w instead of that little switch on the back. there's a CC that does pitch & tempo at the same time for tape-varispeed effects. =20 d. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,=20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. If you communicate with us by e-mail, you acknowledge and=20 assume these risks, and you agree to take appropriate measures to minimise=20 these risks when e-mailing us.=20 MTV Networks International, MTV Networks UK & Ireland, Greenhouse,=20 Nickelodeon Viacom Consumer Products, VBSi, Viacom Brand Solutions=20 International and Comedy Central are all trading names of MTV Networks=20 Europe. MTV Networks Europe is a partnership between MTV Networks Europe=20 Inc. and Viacom Networks Europe Inc. Address for service in Great Britain=20 is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92561.EF7D0041 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C92561.EF7D0041-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 15:52:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674553BE8C; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 372 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:51:59 UTC Message-ID: <48E63FAA.7070503@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:52:10 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Here's a question: where do I find the new OS 2.0 MIDI control numbers to use to program the FCB1010? Thanks, David Simeon Harris wrote: > it's pretty good! > > to be honest, i havn't given it a really good work out, but the extra > features make it well worth it > > record into overdub > bumpless loop boundaries > independent track reverse > sticky settings, like dry mute > and loads more > > you can always go back to 1.1 i think, although the rom does get > updated...i've not heard of anyone going back once they've upgraded though > > go for it man, i don't think you'll regret it > > sim > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:23 PM, David Auker > wrote: > > Sim, > > I'm using OS 1.1, and having no problems. Are you finding OS 2.0 > to be fairly flawless? I kinda hesitate to try it, as I'd have to > re-program the danged FCB1010 MIDI pedal! > > Your thoughts appreciated, > > David > > Simeon Harris wrote: >> no problem >> >> i'll leave it up there for a week in case anybody else wants it >> >> sim >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM, tyler newman >> > wrote: >> >> hi- >> >> wow, awesome, thank you so much!! that's great, can't wait to >> try it out! >> >> i really appreciate it! >> >> - tyler >> >> On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >> >>> here ya go mate... >>> >>> http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c >>> >>> >>> password >>> = repeater >>> >>> >>> you didn't get it from >>> me *wink* >>> >>> >>> sim >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:57 AM, tyler newman >>> > wrote: >>> >>> hi- >>> >>> now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get >>> this OS anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know >>> where to do so... >>> >>> any input would be quite helpful. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> - tyler / battery cage >>> - www.batterycage.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 16:04:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80DCA3BE88; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=gEiDFNZIAgSYLXJzpFZl247x0QYgyn5esEBtTw23cyzWjlRSpZdp9WFfql0MlpXXy786JEJ9w63X42VoLvPycqY2ByY/xSQXlG+28sIxonJPL7FuRlc+SHy1rd58JJOBlg3GgtKZV0or1n+6SQ1CoPwQYJ3Gm1T/9JOGXHwW3TQ=; X-YMail-OSG: qFxU2Q4VM1n_mnwDKO0Th_twcEshLmmRRgb3c7Z6_G6UrG09xenQYFsp6ItySCUgccKzID8wEseH0630MyK.wWvsGgIKEQIOJTp3E9lvgbRJnhPqRAUY58cqMJwrpANxmi_Fa6a4CxK910Ph0DMkIupbPfg9Hd5cg6HAdwlevD7Hn71_oNQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 08:04:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Why a DL4 To: Matt Stevens Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8A8F05C9-3A98-4952-8A2B-E69666AFA659@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1712440978-1223046268=:9386" Message-ID: <301459.9386.qm@web42108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:04:31 +0000 (UTC) --0-1712440978-1223046268=:9386 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt, I think I've had a switch go out on mine.=A0 It's no longer working :-( Is that likely to be an adjustment or a replacement, and how difficult is t= he unit to work on? Thanks, JK --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Matt Stevens wrote: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: Why a DL4 To: kesslari@yahoo.com Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 3:00 AM Hi Tha DL4 is awesome and REALLY easy to use but the EDP is much better. I use= one and own 2 but i'd never of got into looping without the dl4. Pretty re= liable also but keep an eye on the switches =A0- you need to keep the tight= . Good luck mate Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 2 Oct 2008, at 20:58, Jonathan Kessler wrote: Hi, =A0 I'm new to the community and fairly new to looping, but am a FOR (Friend of= Rick) and he's finally gotten me to come over to the dark side... I'm looping and enjoying the heck out of it. =A0 On Rick's recommendation I picked up a DL4.=A0 I understand that it's highl= y regarded in this community, and often preferred over the Boss RC20XL. =A0 Rick's been swamped organizing the festival, so I haven't been able to put = this question to him directly, and figured I'd ask it here. =A0 On other musical communities (primarily bass players) I see the Boss genera= lly preferred over the DL4.=A0 The reasons generally cited are sturdiness, = longer loop time, and "undo" function. =A0 The loop time on the DL4 is fine for me, and I can't speak to sturdiness be= cause I haven't had it long.=A0 The lack of an "undo" is a bit of a bother,= but I can live with it. =A0 But I'm curious - if you prefer a DL4, why?=A0 I'd like to better understan= d the advantages of this tool. =A0 Thanks for sharing your insights, =A0 JK --0-1712440978-1223046268=:9386 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Matt,
I think I've had a switch go out on mine.  It's no longer working :-(
Is that likely to be an adjustment or a replacement, and how difficult is the unit to work on?
Thanks,
JK


--- On Fri, 10/3/08, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
From: Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Why a DL4
To: kesslari@yahoo.com
Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 3:00 AM

Hi

Tha DL4 is awesome and REALLY easy to use but the EDP is much better. I use one and own 2 but i'd never of got into looping without the dl4. Pretty reliable also but keep an eye on the switches  - you need to keep the tight.

Good luck mate

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 2 Oct 2008, at 20:58, Jonathan Kessler wrote:

Hi,
 
I'm new to the community and fairly new to looping, but am a FOR (Friend of Rick) and he's finally gotten me to come over to the dark side...
I'm looping and enjoying the heck out of it.
 
On Rick's recommendation I picked up a DL4.  I understand that it's highly regarded in this community, and often preferred over the Boss RC20XL.
 
Rick's been swamped organizing the festival, so I haven't been able to put this question to him directly, and figured I'd ask it here.
 
On other musical communities (primarily bass players) I see the Boss generally preferred over the DL4.  The reasons generally cited are sturdiness, longer loop time, and "undo" function.
 
The loop time on the DL4 is fine for me, and I can't speak to sturdiness because I haven't had it long.  The lack of an "undo" is a bit of a bother, but I can live with it.
 
But I'm curious - if you prefer a DL4, why?  I'd like to better understand the advantages of this tool.
 
Thanks for sharing your insights,
 
JK

--0-1712440978-1223046268=:9386-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 16:16:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A19A83BE93; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E63E36.5030206@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:45:58 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7ApvkC.A.5AE.XVk5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:16:23 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the words of encouragement! ?? How to do it: I extract REPEATER 2.o1 v4, and drag the "Sys2-10b04 RAF" to the CFC icon on my pc, then stick the CFC card into my Repeater? Then press RECORD and the new system is loaded? (Hey, my excuse is that I'm an acoustical pianist!) Loop on, David Simeon Harris wrote: > it's pretty good! > > to be honest, i havn't given it a really good work out, but the extra > features make it well worth it > > record into overdub > bumpless loop boundaries > independent track reverse > sticky settings, like dry mute > and loads more > > you can always go back to 1.1 i think, although the rom does get > updated...i've not heard of anyone going back once they've upgraded though > > go for it man, i don't think you'll regret it > > sim > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:23 PM, David Auker > wrote: > > Sim, > > I'm using OS 1.1, and having no problems. Are you finding OS 2.0 > to be fairly flawless? I kinda hesitate to try it, as I'd have to > re-program the danged FCB1010 MIDI pedal! > > Your thoughts appreciated, > > David > > Simeon Harris wrote: >> no problem >> >> i'll leave it up there for a week in case anybody else wants it >> >> sim >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM, tyler newman >> > wrote: >> >> hi- >> >> wow, awesome, thank you so much!! that's great, can't wait to >> try it out! >> >> i really appreciate it! >> >> - tyler >> >> On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >> >>> here ya go mate... >>> >>> http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c >>> >>> >>> password >>> = repeater >>> >>> >>> you didn't get it from >>> me *wink* >>> >>> >>> sim >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:57 AM, tyler newman >>> > wrote: >>> >>> hi- >>> >>> now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get >>> this OS anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know >>> where to do so... >>> >>> any input would be quite helpful. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> - tyler / battery cage >>> - www.batterycage.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 16:24:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2C583BE93; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E6472E.6070801@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:24:14 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> <48E63E36.5030206@hevanet.com> In-Reply-To: <48E63E36.5030206@hevanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Ooops! I meant this to just go to Simeon. Gotta check the "To" part of the note...sorry! (Hope someone gets benefit from the exchange, tho!) David David Auker wrote: > Thanks for the words of encouragement! > > ?? How to do it: I extract REPEATER 2.o1 v4, and drag the "Sys2-10b04 > RAF" to the CFC icon on my pc, then stick the CFC card into my > Repeater? Then press RECORD and the new system is loaded? (Hey, my > excuse is that I'm an acoustical pianist!) > > Loop on, > > David > > Simeon Harris wrote: >> it's pretty good! >> >> to be honest, i havn't given it a really good work out, but the extra >> features make it well worth it >> >> record into overdub >> bumpless loop boundaries >> independent track reverse >> sticky settings, like dry mute >> and loads more >> >> you can always go back to 1.1 i think, although the rom does get >> updated...i've not heard of anyone going back once they've upgraded >> though >> >> go for it man, i don't think you'll regret it >> >> sim >> >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:23 PM, David Auker > > wrote: >> >> Sim, >> >> I'm using OS 1.1, and having no problems. Are you finding OS 2.0 >> to be fairly flawless? I kinda hesitate to try it, as I'd have to >> re-program the danged FCB1010 MIDI pedal! >> Your thoughts appreciated, >> >> David >> >> Simeon Harris wrote: >>> no problem >>> >>> i'll leave it up there for a week in case anybody else wants it >>> >>> sim >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:28 PM, tyler newman >>> > wrote: >>> >>> hi- >>> >>> wow, awesome, thank you so much!! that's great, can't wait to >>> try it out! >>> i really appreciate it! >>> >>> - tyler >>> >>> On Oct 2, 2008, at 2:27 AM, Simeon Harris wrote: >>> >>>> here ya go mate... >>>> >>>> http://www.box.net/shared/m00og7fn8c >>>> >>>> >>>> password >>>> = repeater >>>> >>>> >>>> you didn't get it from >>>> me *wink* >>>> >>>> >>>> sim >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:57 AM, tyler newman >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> hi- >>>> >>>> now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get >>>> this OS anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know >>>> where to do so... >>>> >>>> any input would be quite helpful. >>>> >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> - tyler / battery cage >>>> - www.batterycage.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus >>> Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus >> Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM > > From tradeinvestments2008@gmail.com Fri Oct 3 16:35:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1247 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:35:50 UTC Received: from postbode02.versateladsl.be (postbode02.versateladsl.be [212.53.5.92]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689063BE8C for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21798 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2008 16:14:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) ([94.109.225.124]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.versateladsl.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 3 Oct 2008 16:14:40 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Richard Cooper" Subject: Earn extra income while surfing the internet October 2008 offer !!! 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Regards, Richard Cooper http://www.dalstonmillfabrics.co.uk From tradeinvestments2008@gmail.com Fri Oct 3 16:35:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1246 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:35:50 UTC Received: from postbode02.versateladsl.be (postbode02.versateladsl.be [212.53.5.92]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D446F3BE8F for ; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:35:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21798 invoked by uid 0); 3 Oct 2008 16:14:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO User) ([94.109.225.124]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.versateladsl.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for < >; 3 Oct 2008 16:14:40 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Richard Cooper" Subject: Earn extra income while surfing the internet October 2008 offer !!! Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:14:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20081003163550.D446F3BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dalston Mill Fabrics Ltd 69-73 Ridley Road, Dalston, London, E8 2NP, United Kingdom TELL, +44(0)7035908142, www.dalstonmillfabrics.co.uk Hello and greetings to you this very day.I am Richard Cooper from Dalston Mills Fabrics Ltd.We are based in the United Kingdom and specialises on: · Bridal Fabrics · Dress Fabrics · Dance Fabrics · Miscellaneous · Haberdashery · Leather · Silk Fabrics · All products I am emailing you on behalf of Dalston Mills Fabrics Limited, United Kingdom. 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Regards, Richard Cooper http://www.dalstonmillfabrics.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 17:31:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28D653BE8B; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=y4L9p/BXpaDVKLBZDaTXkAOsj4uyVo/nDHU8P9Rlamk=; b=E+pezaCVXmyN44+MGqdgpQUnJBRAcyg8mRU+BQwDhKEC6pAZ89Tr8on68+Ig3UcMkd vFFirwdUbJBh5K0wqAmd25jmbXasLEJQxd1n61J/nrwazVUwnDZfFJj/7/jnxU0SF4aS n1TxgMNeEIKeIC/JBpj2scc2m6pg2avejZs2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=V38JP6GkBV1Ngx1pGJY3jb08VTYv/b0n8KnyJx9v8Pnx3adspauF1qQOXFUVd1Mun2 E97EO2/FCnwpykODkNZafF1Y3vzv+2Gal06Y9OUozGgPM2fdeiKCSvM0/ZGaqGaVKliH cFwsz23bRiLv3SJpR9S4wxuP3QmeD/dc7z53o= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:31:04 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 In-Reply-To: <48E63FAA.7070503@hevanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30029_27729147.1223055064265" References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> <48E63FAA.7070503@hevanet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:31:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30029_27729147.1223055064265 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline it's all in the manual bro - included with the softs i think most of the PC numbers are the same in both versions, however On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:52 PM, David Auker wrote: > Here's a question: where do I find the new OS 2.0 MIDI control numbers to > use to program the FCB1010? > Thanks, David > > ------=_Part_30029_27729147.1223055064265 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
it's all in the manual bro - included with the softs

i think most of the PC numbers are the same in both versions, however

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:52 PM, David Auker <davauk@hevanet.com> wrote:
Here's a question: where do I find the new OS 2.0 MIDI control numbers to use to program the FCB1010?  
Thanks, David

------=_Part_30029_27729147.1223055064265-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 17:32:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 922F33BE8C; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=pJnO5RZ7zITnEs25Rxt8OJM/dXUI82rAr4ZjMUZL6OY=; b=iTSGWhjuf8lAxJtihYE7LcXnX/posBZ6jGS0Atffot0jc4lTUBFCEkjJigx1VUupeB aYIAE6EfZq1Fh+YE5hDwBVVlHBxhBEh0JLYz0qvxZLM5RzIB/YuvCEn3b7NKCWAYR5lZ EF8YV4c1oBeIcQd3rV6DcLFs8Fu0j7V+y+jMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=J3nC5ccoGv6lFeEKTBlXpP5eO8CNqHLrd0aXEMFl5CVeUOElEQoIGJHhx++W28aGyf aRdb5EYydAG7uHoT8HQPHPo/b429Z07/8+6vk9SEgCtQGpq4IDW64ENW80Sm8EZrWdL0 nEWbUXnLu/lDZnRFhX5ZzWIxFJUcWrwvgeUrs= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:32:55 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 In-Reply-To: <48E63E36.5030206@hevanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30069_23729571.1223055175981" References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> <48E63E36.5030206@hevanet.com> Resent-Message-ID: <22ihRD.A.vT.Jdl5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30069_23729571.1223055175981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline instructions are included too - check the "instructions.jpg" in the docs folder On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:45 PM, David Auker wrote: > Thanks for the words of encouragement! > > ?? How to do it: I extract REPEATER 2.o1 v4, and drag the "Sys2-10b04 RAF" > to the CFC icon on my pc, then stick the CFC card into my Repeater? Then > press RECORD and the new system is loaded? (Hey, my excuse is that I'm an > acoustical pianist!) > > ------=_Part_30069_23729571.1223055175981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
instructions are included too - check the "instructions.jpg" in the docs folder

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:45 PM, David Auker <davauk@hevanet.com> wrote:
Thanks for the words of encouragement!

?? How to do it: I extract REPEATER 2.o1 v4, and drag the "Sys2-10b04 RAF" to the CFC icon on my pc, then stick the CFC card into my Repeater?  Then press RECORD and the new system is loaded?  (Hey, my excuse is that I'm an acoustical pianist!)

------=_Part_30069_23729571.1223055175981-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 18:55:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBB553BE8F; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E66AA9.8050505@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 11:55:37 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> <48E63E36.5030206@hevanet.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:55:27 +0000 (UTC) Looks like a complete package, worthy of study - thanks! David Simeon Harris wrote: > instructions are included too - check the "instructions.jpg" in the > docs folder > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 4:45 PM, David Auker > wrote: > > Thanks for the words of encouragement! > > ?? How to do it: I extract REPEATER 2.o1 v4, and drag the > "Sys2-10b04 RAF" to the CFC icon on my pc, then stick the CFC card > into my Repeater? Then press RECORD and the new system is loaded? > (Hey, my excuse is that I'm an acoustical pianist!) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 19:00:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB3613BE8C; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=oG6HmeIEjLLU77jaiQtkJjoWQut3aeCO89ox3HJtSJI=; b=G7BVbSMEJu9v1SaM5edYqWpUHXjuZMdoEXGvAFVIwswYajP6/gE8gpaVckM+tu7gH2 2AA39gJ2rkc2i6zqHJkzI1TBsVeENbG9qG8cfN2TTtC82at9ZsTquoSNglFlbIkWCcm1 y+LAevVvGR/b9gVJ+mprBXiRerNCLj+TTi/NQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Yhyq+sdZjCxT9ZBEYDOIlnEA1dlCLjnRB/usUD2/QTV6xqCCg4VxdLaCzun2Td36bs QDnr0gW7DQrpHF9R5kRhXu5uRNU3u8vnkyG35fU+l4Hk6LQVPSfXtenqdjmwAhwiDFAx 3M21mCzEuPTDTaMFx0w7HTQH9V3SuXUwpIdPg= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810031200m1c66f9bew69a99e7dd8faccc5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:00:18 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 In-Reply-To: <48E63FAA.7070503@hevanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24429_12071041.1223060418181" References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> <48E63FAA.7070503@hevanet.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e13c07203ef5e6de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:00:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24429_12071041.1223060418181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i dont know the truth here, but Im sure I didnt have to reprogram my fcb after upgrading... m -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_24429_12071041.1223060418181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
i dont know the truth here, but Im sure I didnt have to reprogram my fcb after upgrading...

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------=_Part_24429_12071041.1223060418181-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 19:08:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C39CB3BE8F; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E66DA8.4050008@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:08:24 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> <7CCBE32D-4DEE-42E9-84FF-F204D82ADB45@batterycage.com> <48E61CB7.2040004@hevanet.com> <48E63FAA.7070503@hevanet.com> <9ab0c76f0810031200m1c66f9bew69a99e7dd8faccc5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810031200m1c66f9bew69a99e7dd8faccc5@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Just glancing at the new CC#, they look much the same (but there must be new features that need new pedal control), but the PC# look different... 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looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D8B03BE89; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=QAE5mVXJZGAaDRT/q3DNSz82lOQJ4nLQ1MmwiwVtNeE=; b=bDOT1eTgw9L+3HB8WGEnjf/lJiUA176aXYyIGUkx5qSlQAnh6BqA+TQQPXzQ1RCwck 9HNSwEkZkOWA0Dg0n4fm141BHPzslohzp782Maw9dL8nBJFAY4ruRzSVwZDQZs/FCPlr K72UszBYYRDPIDen97DJggJK/KJny9LIze1l8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=BM0s0LIJ2YMp/23BoUh1NmZzZIRKY7Hz3XHN8aqV2YEuFDx2nFP6Moefz/Hs75uWCc C0Agn0jRcG3q3GWJHJU2I9nnBBsNnXZhxWqjzld9O0OqRTiNqOW4u/s576PKuWmbhMia DkJUiWbboq2UgBpytB74kn/o4EEI/6sICbYU4= Message-ID: <101191640810031245y4b0a8041u3f783220774442ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 15:45:34 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Album spam In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 11d510619518b722 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 19:45:36 +0000 (UTC) Hey Simeon, I'm sitting here listening to Reverb Nation at work. Digging it. especially the pieces with narration. cool. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 21:43:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A55C3BE84; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:43:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5N1dVqcUDoZ8oLAaZHahYhCkrlPCf3FpyOvn0UM8o6o=; b=GT3Xx0nqGRB45iSrqVS7ZbqJhsBqk8ZIavA8kFO4jDLGhmoBVbYxYwioNcRJoPAYZ/ RDWG6bmmymj5nA722fLiqnxR8qmYcZpzaiUvepu3B/SjecT3QWsOZs5iyq4MHocI+ecZ ifPBT7HTgQuhuTmjrb/sRAynrobqJwAzt7LGU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=fU3l6v9EJccbBX6KMYQK0mxVB+SLaXP0FqQj+qL2g4wcLZnsT7le+FfHrbX1oOeaBE sCK51h1qUHxZFof6jxY6NZk1XVk692ElUtFI5U6e77TIjuk0ptcQWbxzcaP+fzeVh/xL zftD4uLnQzVV0/viVJKzrny/B+4fMA9EUFM30= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 22:43:51 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Album spam In-Reply-To: <101191640810031245y4b0a8041u3f783220774442ed@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35244_12332958.1223070231871" References: <101191640810031245y4b0a8041u3f783220774442ed@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:43:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_35244_12332958.1223070231871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hey, thanks man! On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Hey Simeon, > > I'm sitting here listening to Reverb Nation at work. Digging it. > especially the pieces with narration. cool. > > Warren > > ------=_Part_35244_12332958.1223070231871 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
hey, thanks man!

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Hey Simeon,

I'm sitting here listening to Reverb Nation at work. Digging it.
especially the pieces with narration. cool.

Warren


------=_Part_35244_12332958.1223070231871-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 3 21:50:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDBBA3BE8B; Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:50:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 21:50:49 UTC Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 16:47:20 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #600 for October 2, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48E684D8.2030604@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: <72eFiC.A.kBB.5Op5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:50:49 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/081002.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #600 October 2, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight was Okefenokee Dreams 2001 on Quantum Records and NeuHarmony Records. Ricochet Gathering: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#oct PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Winther Stormer Rising Ashes Electric Fairytales (Bajkal) Mythos S.S.O.-2 Surround Sound Offensive(none) Inquisitor Betrayer Garden of Shadows Space Elevator (none) (Manikin) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ricochet Gathering Wildlife At the Okefenokee Dreams 2001 (Neu Okefenokee Harmony/Quantum) Ricochet Gathering Five Sisters Okefenokee Dreams 2001 (NH/Q) Ricochet Gathering Swamp Impasse Okefenokee Dreams 2001 (NH/Q) Ricochet Gathering Road To Nowhere Okefenokee Dreams 2001 (NH/Q) Ricochet Gathering Tanic Tonic Okefenokee Dreams 2001 (NH/Q) Ricochet Gathering Southern Sunset Okefenokee Dreams 2001 (NH/Q) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Poland 2004 on Ricochet Dream Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 4 00:15:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A9973BE89; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:x-mailer:from; bh=hZcnGMROh7p2+iB4xAcAkqZkOUaQRjtSrVZ80VwITkc=; b=V/H+ZkbfkT4ZxE0cjQ6bfvNurT2WnPgGayOJaXQw2f6ENuIO96mbyBwWZXHEcpJMY5 NVjEy+yj7bLfyrv6cU7conzJpAPdFQ9V0aV7BPQgx3ubTEVCmbUFpe3Rj91dEYQEQQQr TfRjYd8OnQovjwz1UdO67vQDTQtr04ew4erF0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:x-mailer:from; b=epu1L0qfdfEVxfjyINRsUZAzzzStyemtPS+YxDXueRd5QzFxoH2oAZ82wZURxSmKGC zNCCPpUbtlLxg3Z3gkPUeoFy0PGC+OnLR8U/OxyHq9AdROEES4sA+osOyDn68repmvjA 7KkwBCjeyVIRX/u7CLkkX8mhI4X4mgpxeinhQ= Message-Id: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: New Echoplex Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:15:15 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Daniel Hegarty Resent-Message-ID: <2ffwwC.A.x2C.XWr5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, New to the list, but I need some help. I just recently bought an EDP and had it shipped over from the states to the UK. First night got it home, powered it up and it worked perfectly. Went away on business for a week and when i returned i powered it up, recorded a loop and got this horrific white noise (ish) sound coming out of it. It seems if I leave it for a while its ok, but i bought an EDP for its reliability. Is this a common problem? Is there anything I can do about it? Thanks in advance for any advice Daniel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 4 01:05:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 271FA3BE84; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 18:05:09 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Echoplex References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Daniel, Mine does it, too...always has....really bad static noise. It's fine after letting it warm up for a few minutes. (It's playing as we speak!) I've just learned to not use it immediately after powering up, and it works great after that, no probs. David Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Hey all, > > New to the list, but I need some help. > > I just recently bought an EDP and had it shipped over from the states > to the UK. First night got it home, powered it up and it worked > perfectly. Went away on business for a week and when i returned i > powered it up, recorded a loop and got this horrific white noise (ish) > sound coming out of it. It seems if I leave it for a while its ok, but > i bought an EDP for its reliability. > > Is this a common problem? Is there anything I can do about it? > > Thanks in advance for any advice > > Daniel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 4 01:26:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 830B73BE8B; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223083576; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=3diSeKKmvSQA/gKANjrWmCaAnZU=; b=c0J0VlHKYdc+9BcLAzZQ5CO2gcFvv3AhKcvHZv65brXvwsBhs4OTs0mFbPa3A2g8 kL/bCu2SJ9NFlub95UnnN8sbp6iHlMVUqGHabNhBpJmv9aGQCeNydFY4tAI0QYqv; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MhXy_qTucvE5ns9IuGMA:9 a=EbRdO8psu8yCLDHI-Enk4l8C6jUA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 a=l2TI3NCWwuXfRzBabX0A:9 a=2Q2yEBniLi_JNalYik4A:7 a=EZdhodvzhXasSTEOC8A-FDC7I2UA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000901c925c0$324f5be0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Oud tunings Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:26:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9259E.A893D190" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9259E.A893D190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just want to throw this out here, you can mail me back offlist to save = bandwidth. Does anyone know what tuning David Torn uses? I have search for awhile = with no luck and its hard for me as a very new oudist to tell from his = recordings. thanx, Jeff Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange. The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll be. Allen Steele=20 Galaxy Blues ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C9259E.A893D190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just want to throw this out here, you = can mail me=20 back offlist to save bandwidth.
Does anyone know what tuning David Torn = uses? I=20 have search for awhile with no luck and its hard for me as a very new = oudist to=20 tell from his recordings.
 
thanx,
 
Jeff
 
 
Out here in the Great Beyond, = everything is=20 strange.
The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll = be.
Allen=20 Steele
Galaxy Blues
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Yours Faithfully, Mrs. Linda Kershaw SECRETARY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 4 05:18:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB5873BE8B; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:14:38 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: Midi envelope generator In-reply-to: <9ab0c76f0810021117ldb534b9k880e482de28a9147@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <9ab0c76f0810021117ldb534b9k880e482de28a9147@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for all of the replies. All of these products look interesting, but none of them quite fit the bill, for what I want to do, which is to Midi control a couple of my video mixers in a rig that does not include a laptop. Since the take bar of these video mixers can be midi controlled, I keep thinking it would be cool if I could hit a button and switch between sources with an envelope generator that I could control in real time by tweaking knobs, something to give me more control of the shape of my visual 'notes'. I already have quite a mammoth rig (4 - 5 DVD players, 3 video mixers, the wires to connect them, monitor and projector) and I can't see adding a laptop and a fader box to the rig. At 8:17 PM +0200 10/2/08, mark francombe wrote: >I love my RedSound Federation... its a DJ tool... kinda ADSR, more >of a "cutter" with filter 3types, delay, old skool sounding (reggie >music) and a ker-razy panner, that pans diferent frequency ranges... >bit of a footprind(tabletop device) but a... ummm what to you yanks >call it... um... oh yes... a doozy! > >M > > >On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) ><emile@foryourhead.com> wrote: > >Hi, > >I keep thinking I could use a hardware midi envelope generator, >something that had, say, 4 sliders for ADSR, a switch for looping, a >slider for loop rate and a push button trigger. Does such a device >exist? -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From m_mohammed02@hotmail.com Sat Oct 4 08:11:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:11:50 UTC Received: from bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.246.171]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5C23BE7F for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:11:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BAY106-W9 ([65.54.161.109]) by bay0-omc2-s35.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 4 Oct 2008 01:06:47 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d2b536e4-0384-487b-bc24-92c715ba08d2_" X-Originating-IP: [212.52.153.62] Reply-To: From: m mohammed Subject: TREAT AS URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL. Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:06:46 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2008 08:06:47.0069 (UTC) FILETIME=[25A88CD0:01C925F8] To: undisclosed-recipients:; --_d2b536e4-0384-487b-bc24-92c715ba08d2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TREAT AS URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL.From The Desk Of Mr Mohammed.Bill And Exch= ange ManagerBank Of Africa Ouagadougou-Burkina Faso.Tel. 00226 7805 4754. D= ear Friend=2C I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittan= ce department of BANK OF AFRICA.I am writting to seek your coperation over= this business deal.In my department=2C I discovered an abandoned sum of $= 14million USD (Fourtheen Million United States Dollars) only=2C in an acoun= t that belongs to one of our foreign customers who died along with his enti= re family in a plane crash that took place in Kenya=2CEast Africa=2Cthe Lat= e DR. GEORGE BRUMLEY=2Ca citizen of Atlanta=2C United States of America but= naturalised in Burkinafaso=2C West Africa and contractor with ECOWAS=2C(EC= ONOMIC COMMUNITY OF WEST AFRICAN STATES) . =20 Since we got information about his death=2C we have been expecting his next= of kin to come over and claim his money because it cannot be releasedunles= s somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased asindi= cated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately=2C all his supposed next = of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crashleaving nobody= behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that Inow decide= d to make this businness proposal to you and release the money to you via y= our foreign bank account as the next of kin or relation to thedeceased for = safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and this m= oney Could go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill. The Banking law and= guideline here stipulate that if such money remained unclaimed after 7 ye= ars=2C the money will be transfered into the Bank's treasury as unclaimed f= und.The request for your assistance and maximumco-operation as a foreign ci= tizen to stand as the next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fac= t that the deceased customer was aforeigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as= next of kin to a foreigner.40 % of this money will be for you as my foreig= n partner=2Cin respect tothe provision of a foreign account. 5 % will be se= t aside for expencesincured during the business and 55 % would be for me.Th= ere after I will comeover to your country for disbursement accoding the pe= rcentages indicated. =20 Therefore to enable the immediate trnansfer of this fund to you as arranged= =2Cyou must apply first to the bank as the relation or next of kin to the = deceased=2Cindicating your claims and wherein the money will be remitted. U= pon receipt of your reply=2C I will send to you by fax or email the text of= application which you will fill and forward to the office of the foreign r= emittance director of the bank of africa. I will not fail to bring to your = notice that this transaction is strictly confidential and i will use my pos= ition in this Bank to effect a hitch free transfer of the fund. You should= contact me immediately as soon as you receive this letter on phone number:= 00226 7805 4754. Trusting to hear from you immediately. Please =2C visit t= he website below for more informations about the Plane Crash and the tragic= death of the deceased and his entire family=2C Late DR. GEORGE BRUMLEY. = http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/africa/07/20/kenya.crash/index.html Yours = Faithfully=2CIbrahim Mohammed.=20 _________________________________________________________________ Lancez des recherches en toute s=E9curit=E9 depuis n'importe quelle page We= b. T=E9l=E9chargez GRATUITEMENT Windows Live Toolbar aujourd'hui ! http://toolbar.live.com= --_d2b536e4-0384-487b-bc24-92c715ba08d2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable TREAT AS URGENT AND CONFIDENTIAL.
From The Desk Of Mr Mohammed.
Bill = And Exchange Manager
Bank Of Africa
Ouagadougou-Burkina Faso.
Tel= . 00226 7805 4754.
 =3B
Dear Friend=2C
 =3B
I am the ma= nager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance department of =3B = BANK OF AFRICA.I am writting to seek your coperation over this business&nbs= p=3B deal.In my department=2C I discovered an abandoned sum of $14million U= SD (Fourtheen Million United States Dollars) only=2C in an acount that belo= ngs to one of our foreign customers who died along with his entire family i= n a plane crash that took place in Kenya=2CEast Africa=2Cthe Late DR. GEORG= E BRUMLEY=2Ca citizen of Atlanta=2C United States of America but naturalise= d in Burkinafaso=2C West Africa and contractor with ECOWAS=2C(ECONOMIC COMM= UNITY OF WEST AFRICAN STATES) .
 =3B
Since we got information about his death=2C we have been expecting his next= of kin to come over and claim his money because it cannot be releasedunles= s somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased asindi= cated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately=2C all his supposed next = of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crashleaving nobody= behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that Inow decide= d to make this businness proposal to you and release the money to you via y= our foreign bank account as the next of kin or relation to thedeceased for = safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and this m= oney Could go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill.
 =3B
The = Banking law and guideline here stipulate that if such money remained unclai= med after =3B 7 years=2C the money will be transfered into the Bank's t= reasury as unclaimed fund.The request for your assistance and maximumco-ope= ration as a foreign citizen to stand as the next of kin in this business is= occasioned by the fact that the deceased customer was aforeigner and a Bur= kinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.40 % of this money will b= e for you as my foreign partner=2Cin respect tothe provision of a foreign a= ccount. 5 % will be set aside for expencesincured during the business and 5= 5 % would be for me.There after I will comeover to your country for disburs= ement accoding =3B the percentages indicated.
 =3B
Therefore to enable the immediate trnansfer of this fund to you as arranged= =2Cyou must apply first to the bank as the relation or next of kin to = =3B the deceased=2Cindicating your claims and wherein the money will be rem= itted. Upon receipt of your reply=2C I will send to you by fax or email the= text of application which you will fill and forward to the office of the f= oreign remittance director of the bank of africa. I will not fail to bring = to your notice that this transaction is strictly confidential and i will us= e my position in this Bank to effect a hitch free transfer of the fund.&nbs= p=3B You should contact me immediately as soon as you receive this letter o= n phone number: 00226 7805 4754. Trusting to hear from you immediately.
=  =3B
Please =2C visit the website below for more informations about = the Plane Crash and the tragic death of the deceased and his entire family= =2C Late DR. GEORGE =3B BRUMLEY. =3B =3B http://www.cnn.com/= 2003/WORLD/africa/07/20/kenya.crash/index.html
 =3B
 =3B = Yours Faithfully=2C
Ibrahim Mohammed.

Discutez gratuitem= ent avec vos amis en vid=E9o ! T=E9l=E9chargez Messenger=2C c'est gratuit ! = --_d2b536e4-0384-487b-bc24-92c715ba08d2_-- From wwwrun@h128679.serverkompetenz.net Sat Oct 4 11:38:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 25163 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 11:38:14 UTC Received: from h128679.serverkompetenz.net (isolution-online.de [81.169.167.126]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F18D3BE7B for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 11:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by h128679.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix, from userid 30) id 9C7E168417C; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:04:13 +0200 (CEST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: PLEASE HELP ME From: Mrs.Suha Tawil Arafat Reply-To: a_mrs.suhatawil@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20081004060413.9C7E168417C@h128679.serverkompetenz.net> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 08:04:13 +0200 (CEST) Dear sir/madam, I am Mrs. SUHA TAWIL ARAFAT, the wife of YASSER ARAFAT, the Palestinianleaderwho died recently in Paris. Since his death and even prior to the announcement,I have been thrown into a state ofantagonism, confusion, humiliation,frustration and hopelessness by the present leadership of the PalestinianLiberation Organization and the new Prime Minister. I have even been subjected to physical and psychological torture. As awindowthat is so traumatized, I have lost confidence with everybody inthe country atthe moment. You must have heard over the media reports and the Internet on thediscovery of some fund in my husband secret bank account and companies and theallegations of some huge sums of money deposited by my husband in my name ofwhich I have refuses to disclose or give up to the corrupt Palestine Government. You must have heard over the media reports and the Internet on thediscovery ofsome fund in my husband secret bank account and companies and the allegations ofsome huge sums of money deposited by my husband in my name of which I haverefuses to disclose or give up to the corrupt Palestine Government. In fact thetotal sum allegedly discovered by the Government so far is in the tune of about$6.5 Billion Dollars. And they are not relenting on their effort to make me poorfor life. As you know, the Moslem community has no regards for woman, hence mydesire for a foreign assistance. You can visit the BBC news broadcast below forbetter understanding of what I am talking about;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3479937.stm I have deposited the sum of 22.5 million dollars with a Financial firm inEurope whose name is withheld for now until we open communication. I shall begrateful if you could receive this fund into your bank account for safe keepingand any Investment opportunity. This arrangement will be known to you and Ialone and all our correspondence should be strictly on email alone because ourgovernment has tapped all my lines and are monitoring all my moves. In view of the above, if you are willing to assist for our mutualbenefits, wewill have to negotiate on your Percentage share of the$22.5,000,000 that will bekept in your position for a while and invested in your name for my trust pendingwhen my Daughter,Zahwa,will come off age and takefull responsibility of herFamily Estate/inheritance. Please note that this is a golden opportunity that comes once in life time andmore so, if you are honest, I am going to entrust more funds in your care asthis is one of the legacy we keep for our children.In case youdon't accept please do not let me out to the security and international media as I am givingyou this information in total trust and confidence. I will greatly appreciate ifyou accept my proposal in good faith Please expedite action. Yours sincerely, Mrs. Suha Tawil Arafat. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 4 12:57:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC1EF3BE8B; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 539457.63865.bm@omp425.mail.mud.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HXyvMBWO6IlWFbJ2aOlrzp+qvbPfgSDsymTzoXeH5DebylIDdCao82xSn2Hm25fyjHzvUzFUyh7FDbH1FaQFHPZpND2hRt1H9fqDIqDk8h33xmzgNYS+G1ExCcnosegG4Tpy1eHmn/udBHQIQ0y+M5uehnbsf+wj5YVi011nVjo=; X-YMail-OSG: dvCYMS8VM1koHt8yv7yQ2GXyqHYcyKcJT2pbuT0lXjTHLvZwHsKLZrarf.DI6xPpCMFNcBR.vUDhc.wKQpLEq09vOFzAINok4k_UR7koeQw7iPUz5IwtZHz9lJ962zZFOSoPpIYmpoQRUzaSWICR7IXjS5xQLsmWsgyzRSXH4bzwAoON4M4- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 05:57:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Oud tunings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000901c925c0$324f5be0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <958694.58035.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 12:57:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jeff, Can't remember where/when (and this could be wrong), but I seem to recall DT saying in an interview that (as he does on guitar) he uses several different tunings. You might start with these and tweak with impunity: Standard Egyptian/Arab: D G A D G C Old Turkish Classical: A D E A D G New Turkish Classical: F# B E A D G Turkish/Armenian: E A B E A D Turkish/Armenian Variant: C# F# B E A D Standard Cumbus: D E A D G C This page is useful too: -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > From: Jeff Duke > Subject: Oud tunings > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 9:26 PM > Just want to throw this out here, you can mail me back > offlist to save bandwidth. > Does anyone know what tuning David Torn uses? I have search > for awhile with no luck and its hard for me as a very new > oudist to tell from his recordings. > > thanx, > > Jeff > > > Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange. > The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll > be. > Allen Steele > Galaxy Blues From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 4 14:21:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA3A93BE8B; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xQ40jPlogUcA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=Ygf9uOlQO5YPmfMujqMA:9 a=urKRLjR6EZVEIXPwgfjcK7E1DfwA:4 a=UD3EFyfc0L8A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:21:44 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:21:47 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw From mariam@mariam.com Sat Oct 4 22:14:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6284 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 22:14:34 UTC Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E90F43BE75 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:14:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (mwinf2117 [10.232.7.117]) by mwinf2105.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 417471C2CDD0 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:29:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (unknown [41.203.231.93]) by mwinf2117.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D11351C00090; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:29:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20081004202925856.D11351C00090@mwinf2117.orange.fr Reply-To: From: "sancara" Subject: Please reply asap. Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 20:29:49 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1081 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1081 Message-Id: <20081004202925.D11351C00090@mwinf2117.orange.fr> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Mrs.Mariam Sancara, Ouagadougou. Bukina-Faso. My Dear Friend, May the blessings of Allah be upon you and grant you the wisdom and sympathy to understand my situation and how much I need your help.I am Mrs.Mariam Sancara. I am contacting you with the hope that you will be of great assistance to me, I currently have within my reach the sum of 4.3 million U.S dollars cash which I intend to use for investment purposes. I therefore personally appeal to you seriously and religiously for your urgent assistance to move this money in to your country where I believe it will be safe since I cannot leave the country due to the restriction of movement imposed on the members of my family by the Government. This money came as a result of a payback contract deal between my husband and a Russian firm in our country.The Russian partners returned my husbands share .Presently, the Government has intensified their probe in to my husbands financial resources which has led to the freezing of all our accounts, local and foreign, the revoking of all our business licences and the arrest of my First son. In view of this I want to acted very fast to withdraw this money from one of our finance houses before it will be closed down.My husband deposited the money in a finance firm for safe keeping . No record is known about this fund by the government because there is no documentation showing that we have such funds. Further more, my elder son have been in detention in the last four years following the death of my late husband for charges of State organized murder and corrupt practices. he was just been released by the Supreme Court after the president brokered a deal with my family regarding his freedom, and he is still under interrogation about my late husband's assets and some vital documents. Due to the current situation in the country and government attitude to my family,I cannot make use of this money within, thus I seek your help in transferring this funds out for investment than leaving the fund here and to invest the money to profit my family Bearing in mind that you may assist me.l have decided to part with 25% of the total sum. I am seriously considering to settle down abroad in a friendly atmosphere like yours as soon as this fund get into your account so that I can start all over again if only you wish. I shall ask my son Djiba to come over to your country to liaise with you. If this proposal satisfies you. please do not let me out to the security as I am giving you this information in total trust and confidence and please include your personal telephone and fax numbers. I will greatly appreciate if you accept my proposal in good faith. Your URGENT response is needed. Regards and Allah Bless you. 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From drbc_w01@noipmail.com Sat Oct 4 23:53:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 17460 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:53:01 UTC Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.145]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC1A13BE75 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 23:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (mwinf2003 [172.22.130.25]) by mwinf2b15.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BD3761CAE0AB for ; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 21:02:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from User (unknown [41.203.235.94]) by mwinf2003.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 11CFA1C00092; Sat, 4 Oct 2008 21:01:44 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20081004190145730.11CFA1C00092@mwinf2003.orange.fr Reply-To: From: "Dr. Welly Loomis" Subject: TREAT AS URGENT Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 20:01:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20081004190144.11CFA1C00092@mwinf2003.orange.fr> To: undisclosed-recipients:; FROM DR. WELLY LOOMIS BANK OF AFRICA.(BOA) OUAGADOUGOU -BURKINA-FASO. Bp 82 ZANGOTE YENUGUA 02 4587 Reply me here please. Email: drwellyloomis@gmail.com Dear Friend, This message might meet you in utmost surprise, however,it's just my urgent need for foreign partner that made me to contact you for thistransaction. I am a banker by profession from Burkina faso in west Africa and currently holding the post of Director Auditing and Accounting unit of the bank.I have the opportunity of transfering the left over funds($11.5million) of one of my bank clients who died along w ith his entire family on 31 july 2000 in a plane crash.You can confirm the genuiness of the deceased death by clicking on this web site. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm Hence,i am inviting you for a business deal where this money can be shared between us in the ratio of 60/30 while 10% will be mapped out for expenses.If you agree to my business proposal.further details of the transferwill be forwarded to you as soon as i receive your return mail. have a great day. yours, Dr. Welly Loomis Send your Reply to my new email address. Email: drwellyloomis@gmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 01:11:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B926F3BE79; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 01:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=rlqQmbgSiiERsLYkHGAlXLX3SjuGVg4g+iBrwMUvzgE=; b=Ys5OU8vsI3NXZ2czgY6KJX8W9xWO+hyXyevlje5bxgHPaNqRHBztOWQae5u0mttmfE VxQ/AbUldaG3VCZ95uT2elPdcXvOLbPbmgJDZu4b0n5Ik3l/4eFOMGSE1CqzMgJfeNmX JkJVZfs4ONWOHV+tDRp7aoeOEDLIysrPe0JP8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=B0ha5Mw96aXsj10OU15bFRtNBTJVoI0fJmsMA09i0e6Q1JVhSs1Il4HWkD6wviaz7u Ew5IqONUhhp8I8+pbDxjqSIsvAOdsaW6RakQrpvQOnq/PubnBck2d3Fxhrq+M85ZWzXp Zy3NQxdR64l+1D94RDEW8STqXEKJF55iDYqc0= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 21:11:53 -0400 From: magicicada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-Reply-To: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25060_3911714.1223169113432" References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: <6c3JOB.A.4LD.bRB6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 01:11:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_25060_3911714.1223169113432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going to get these last 30 days. 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw > > ------=_Part_25060_3911714.1223169113432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going to get these last 30 days.

2008/10/4 Chris Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw





------=_Part_25060_3911714.1223169113432-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 02:17:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A2843BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 02:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 21:17:28 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 02:17:33 +0000 (UTC) > 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw Oh please, this isn't even close to the amount of vim Howard has at his disposal. If anything this demonstrates how relatively inept McCain is at firing up a crowd. The Dean backlash has always amazed me. It was totally unfair and is a fine example of why the mainstream media is useless in the US. And by the way so is the "YouTube media". > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM, magicicada wrote: > mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going to > get these last 30 days. Wow. I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a number of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s. Perhaps you could fill us in on what you know. While you're at it, please compare and contrast how this election differs from past elections in your lifetime. Assuming there has been another election in your lifetime. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 02:25:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 296FD3BE7C; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 02:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: George Grant Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 20:25:44 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 02:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Er ... and uh .... this relates to looping ... ... how so? Aren't you supposed to discuss this petty party politics polarity ... elsewhere? George On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > > > 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw > > Oh please, this isn't even close to the amount of vim Howard > has at his disposal. If anything this demonstrates how relatively > inept McCain is at firing up a crowd. > > The Dean backlash has always amazed me. It was totally unfair > and is a fine example of why the mainstream media is useless > in the US. And by the way so is the "YouTube media". > > > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM, magicicada wrote: > > mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going to > > get these last 30 days. > > Wow. I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a > number > of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s. > Perhaps > you could fill us in on what you know. > > While you're at it, please compare and contrast how this election > differs from past elections in your lifetime. Assuming there has > been another election in your lifetime. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 03:10:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F12B3BE7C; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:10:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3D93BF42-B4D7-4F1C-B357-F73A6E71F15C@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 22:10:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:10:48 +0000 (UTC) > Aren't you supposed to discuss this petty party politics polarity > ... elsewhere? Well, it's at least marked OT which is considered good form on this list that frequently departs from looping topics. (Anyone remember underwater latency?) As far as "petty party politics polarity" goes...first of all well done on the alliteration! I may have to use that :-) I know this is unusually political of me, but we're about to elect a president in the US, and frankly I think that deserves more rational thought than I see evidence of in the media and the blogs. So if petty party politics polarity comes up in a forum (damn, I like the way that sounds!), I think it is my duty to challenge it. Sorry if this distracts anyone. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 05:24:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C193C3BE7F; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 00:24:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <3D93BF42-B4D7-4F1C-B357-F73A6E71F15C@zonemobius.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckmmAD5lGtki3uBS/yJdFNniSdSkwAEXclw Message-Id: <20081005052406.32D2F3BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <__B4jB.A.NdG.29E6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:24:06 +0000 (UTC) To be honest, I hope we won't get off into US politics on this list. Granted, I'm still a nube here and don't know (in the online sense) many of you well, but there are three other forums I spend time on that have all dipped the rules to allow a political thread. The result is very little new information, but a ton of rehearsed talking points repeated yet again, and everyone's partisanship becomes a source of characterization. And yes, I've been posting like hell in all three of them, though I try to present things that are not part of the normal media/news/points diet. I hope we don't start it on LD, too, or I'll be doing the same thing here. In regard to Dean's decapitation from the top of the list via the endless, constant and excessive repetition of his exclamation, my opinion is the media followed the instructions of their GOP-driven parent corporations. Nothing else that year got that much coverage. I never saw what was so bad about it, either. Damn, I've already started.... dave -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Larson [mailto:jeff@zonemobius.com] > Aren't you supposed to discuss this petty party politics polarity > ... elsewhere? Well, it's at least marked OT which is considered good form on this list that frequently departs from looping topics. (Anyone remember underwater latency?) As far as "petty party politics polarity" goes...first of all well done on the alliteration! I may have to use that :-) I know this is unusually political of me, but we're about to elect a president in the US, and frankly I think that deserves more rational thought than I see evidence of in the media and the blogs. So if petty party politics polarity comes up in a forum (damn, I like the way that sounds!), I think it is my duty to challenge it. Sorry if this distracts anyone. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 06:52:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F7183BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 06:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=pOHF9RD2TOYBbogmFBRF8at3tBql97IaPcA35DWhShY=; b=SFswYcCSRA2NgzxIgSgqmyZk7Wctzb9IKPUieDNbU3hQJkcMVjdnZPdwcCSLHZ1k+j UxX0Evuc1Xm+2+5LflM7ZHTHTR/fXYBwxPzjg+ZKsWYWFu0zk2iTIfy3wUe5QCGDm5oP tq3p4Yz9x/SIqA07n+A7WFJB1xMbxbv6gfArY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ca7DmTux/8uWPR6FEtSve1VZYZg8R7+AFANDWEv9TLA/gZGyCZzSx3ug8bi5AqlD4w /zxpkgBJK7lzyGNmRjeFZJoQmudyb0Wa90AU/estLdtMYNPJkXm4sr3TRtVgbDdKcnHU VR5CC3pkigYvSQ/92FfnWxFH818OvbAh0whGo= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 02:52:43 -0400 From: magicicada To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-Reply-To: <20081005052406.32D2F3BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26150_333525.1223189563356" References: <3D93BF42-B4D7-4F1C-B357-F73A6E71F15C@zonemobius.com> <20081005052406.32D2F3BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 06:52:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26150_333525.1223189563356 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I am sorry for responding so,erhh ... passionately on list. I will not go into it here. I would def. be willing to discuss it person to person. c. On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Dave Gallaher wrote: > To be honest, I hope we won't get off into US politics on this list. > Granted, I'm still a nube here and don't know (in the online sense) many of > you well, but there are three other forums I spend time on that have all > dipped the rules to allow a political thread. The result is very little > new > information, but a ton of rehearsed talking points repeated yet again, and > everyone's partisanship becomes a source of characterization. And yes, > I've > been posting like hell in all three of them, though I try to present things > that are not part of the normal media/news/points diet. I hope we don't > start it on LD, too, or I'll be doing the same thing here. > > In regard to Dean's decapitation from the top of the list via the endless, > constant and excessive repetition of his exclamation, my opinion is the > media followed the instructions of their GOP-driven parent corporations. > Nothing else that year got that much coverage. > > I never saw what was so bad about it, either. > > Damn, I've already started.... > > dave > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Larson [mailto:jeff@zonemobius.com] > > > > > Aren't you supposed to discuss this petty party politics polarity > > ... elsewhere? > > Well, it's at least marked OT which is considered good form > on this list that frequently departs from looping topics. > (Anyone remember underwater latency?) > > As far as "petty party politics polarity" goes...first of all > well done on the alliteration! I may have to use that :-) > > I know this is unusually political of me, but we're about to elect a > president in the US, and frankly I think that deserves more rational > thought than I see evidence of in the media and the blogs. > So if petty party politics polarity comes up in a forum (damn, I like > the > way that sounds!), I think it is my duty to challenge it. > > Sorry if this distracts anyone. > > Jeff > > > > > -- c.white http://magicicada.com http://myspace.com/magicicada ------=_Part_26150_333525.1223189563356 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I am sorry for responding so,erhh ... passionately on list. I will not go into it here. I would def. be willing to discuss it person to person.
c.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:24 AM, Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net> wrote:
To be honest, I hope we won't get off into US politics on this list.
Granted, I'm still a nube here and don't know (in the online sense) many of
you well, but there are three other forums I spend time on that have all
dipped the rules to allow a political thread.  The result is very little new
information, but a ton of rehearsed talking points repeated yet again, and
everyone's partisanship becomes a source of characterization.  And yes, I've
been posting like hell in all three of them, though I try to present things
that are not part of the normal media/news/points diet.  I hope we don't
start it on LD, too, or I'll be doing the same thing here.

In regard to Dean's decapitation from the top of the list via the endless,
constant and excessive repetition of his exclamation, my opinion is the
media followed the instructions of their GOP-driven parent corporations.
Nothing else that year got that much coverage.

I never saw what was so bad about it, either.

Damn, I've already started....

dave




-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Larson [mailto:jeff@zonemobius.com]



 > Aren't you supposed to discuss this petty party politics polarity
 > ... elsewhere?

Well, it's at least marked OT which is considered good form
on this list that frequently departs from looping topics.
(Anyone remember underwater latency?)

As far as "petty party politics polarity" goes...first of all
well done on the alliteration!  I may have to use that :-)

I know this is unusually political of me, but we're about to elect a
president in the US, and frankly I think that deserves more rational
thought than I see evidence of in the media and the blogs.
So if petty party politics polarity comes up in a forum (damn, I like
the
way that sounds!), I think it is my duty to challenge it.

Sorry if this distracts anyone.

Jeff







--
c.white

http://magicicada.com
http://myspace.com/magicicada
------=_Part_26150_333525.1223189563356-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 07:38:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA5233BE81; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=AW8tgqY/5B8N8/FVI7OTtx8OZDRv9M46p6S3pvELUlI=; b=h5FgOVV+ILOIoYFpy408Mv/9iHlAcqWWfqczr86/YaU6Mu+5NYQWu2Xini2/0AVIrB c2DB0rNI1w9UBEALa3KIXt0vnPGQtDCZ0sKeXAQXN8XjEmcLUqFOkeq+tjwHmswl/IBX ZTK9oyYmms0p7bdKVnGBWkUBOs78vsbCkUIzY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Q+pt566q/iutz0ti9bb5wY6mh0rBqQRKQO82AEb66nwCdxGTR5QoGfIRpqqf7C6ujl mgbsAMtswAhjUujJwpJXOz+Kk/O99HMVNKcVg46keUzEP6x9Dp0inBcB8q0Ff/ZVxbaQ 4mAl8SOc4FzsLkHARvJxLKhgB7QYRi5wrFrbo= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810050038p41f03b44s2c166112bc661005@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:38:41 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_38453_29492720.1223192321167" References: <3D93BF42-B4D7-4F1C-B357-F73A6E71F15C@zonemobius.com> <20081005052406.32D2F3BE75@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f7a587236e03695b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:38:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_38453_29492720.1223192321167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear magic, George and Dave, Jeff is right, sorry George, LD is frequently known for going off on one... There is only one rule, write OT in the subject, apart from that, moaning that things are off topic is very dull... PS: Im not American, English living in Norway, but after your recent Wall st debarcle, it fucked up MY company, here in Norway... so I'm more than concerned that one more idiot and his fascist femail sidekick, may be elected AGAIN, but trickery or cheating or downright southern state stupidity and continue to destroy the worlds peace and climate. Watch this, I didnt find it funny, but I dunno, maybe its a Yank thing.. still pass it on; http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_38453_29492720.1223192321167 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dear magic, George and Dave,

Jeff is right, sorry George, LD is frequently known for going off on one... There is only one rule, write OT in the subject, apart from that, moaning that things are off topic is very dull...

PS: Im not American, English living in Norway, but after your recent Wall st debarcle, it fucked up MY company, here in Norway... so I'm more than concerned that one more idiot and his fascist femail sidekick, may be elected AGAIN, but trickery or cheating or downright southern state stupidity and continue to destroy the worlds peace and climate.
Watch this, I didnt find it funny, but I dunno, maybe its a Yank thing.. still pass it on;
http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html

Mark





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www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no
------=_Part_38453_29492720.1223192321167-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 07:42:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE8623BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3940 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:42:18 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 23:30:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: <1u8FiB.A.9oG.a_G6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:42:18 +0000 (UTC) At 9:17 PM -0500 10/4/08, Jeffrey Larson wrote: >Wow. I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a number >of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s. Perhaps >you could fill us in on what you know. http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 09:06:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AC723BE7C; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 09:06:13 UTC Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 04:07:49 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-reply-to: <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:06:13 +0000 (UTC) George Grant wrote: > Er ... and uh .... > this relates to looping ... > ... how so? This relates to looping by virtue of the fact that we'll be doing this all again in four years. Only the loop degrades over that long of a period. Memory limitations require extreme compression in and expansion out causing certain distortions (of facts). Therefore, the names will change to protect the (not so) innocent. ;-) Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 10:06:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E67803BE79; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 10:06:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:06:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 10:06:37 +0000 (UTC) > Er ... and uh .... > > this relates to looping ... > > ... how so? Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting spittle over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats have displayed lately. > Aren't you supposed to discuss this > petty party politics polarity > ... elsewhere? Indeedy-doodly! > George > > > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > >> >> > 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw >> >> Oh please, this isn't even close to the amount of vim Howard >> has at his disposal. If anything this demonstrates how relatively >> inept McCain is at firing up a crowd. >> >> The Dean backlash has always amazed me. It was totally unfair >> and is a fine example of why the mainstream media is useless >> in the US. And by the way so is the "YouTube media". >> >> > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM, magicicada wrote: >> > mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going to >> > get these last 30 days. >> >> Wow. I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a >> number >> of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s. Perhaps >> you could fill us in on what you know. >> >> While you're at it, please compare and contrast how this election >> differs from past elections in your lifetime. Assuming there has >> been another election in your lifetime. >> >> Jeff >> >> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 11:23:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4FB33BE78; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ddjHDPpzXShlG1+0Ny98pkAmCJ1mmUek3dRxKeLRuJg=; b=NSa3DdMcz+zQhHBDsOlndpnXlZQNBECrCKT61cdkXd5hDXcHYbSztdzo2btsghDQWk 8+QYLC5FJCySAXqkTXUvEIQyKpgLtPYy6F35vkmZyFJM8BZCB9TFYNpkQ5iiKDlM/x1f M6OFYWYH2tdOf6orcsXHd/zWif8BSnN0KSWr0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=W+FSrMR9tfS/DXKrk3Uof5OPrVc4Fh6cP9V2u3tIiFy0cue6yIUjBG1+OEfycCo19G VVmF6Pu7Ju8m/tyvfnPrVxNZ6zrlkPsPwKJmIMhDmgZwgnUGMEZeL7LbfyfaMF+VMnwZ PbZ2xqt00d9dJ4S72b/Zcg44DVrd2P9ShoPu8= Message-ID: <499c6bd70810050423j20ae50a5x54c6ec443bb46e81@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:23:53 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-Reply-To: <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20873_31604020.1223205833813" References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> Resent-Message-ID: <1dGZqD.A.QhE.LPK6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:23:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20873_31604020.1223205833813 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 4 years? I'll bet it's more like 2.5?... And if you won't vote for Obama cuz he's black, vote for his white half... On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Bill Fox wrote: > George Grant wrote: > >> Er ... and uh .... >> this relates to looping ... >> ... how so? >> > This relates to looping by virtue of the fact that we'll be doing this all > again in four years. Only the loop degrades over that long of a period. > Memory limitations require extreme compression in and expansion out causing > certain distortions (of facts). Therefore, the names will change to protect > the (not so) innocent. ;-) > > Cheers, > > Bill > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_20873_31604020.1223205833813 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
4 years? I'll bet it's more like 2.5?...

And if you won't vote for Obama cuz he's black, vote for his white half...

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
George Grant wrote:
Er ... and uh ....
this relates to looping ...
... how so?
This relates to looping by virtue of the fact that we'll be doing this all again in four years.  Only the loop degrades over that long of a period.  Memory limitations require extreme compression in and expansion out causing certain distortions (of facts).  Therefore, the names will change to protect the (not so) innocent.     ;-)

Cheers,

Bill




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_20873_31604020.1223205833813-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 12:10:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6085E3BE7B; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:10:52 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=zWAs1H/iaLZR8vKDvQJAAcQzWNaUeYzOWP1DlXBsMzVZianCWqSW5ur6KsLtv8ZRbGFMfVMghnLqjb/7cYmCCedakNSi53EBDhWdd+mNVb75GkUAxvenFqRWSvvTTtzMV2o8CCedIXqHrQUb5z7p7gA0S3bm43+TIPPD8pgfjGo=; X-YMail-OSG: uSY2pNcVM1lPHrAp3Y2DhVh70DVogPz0uFAZ6NJNij93FNt.4Zi3pO44l3pWqP6BdX5bGTGdXWSAnjwr2_GfohBZZkBROWoUGoesin822quP4Yav_wRebJBzSru8lNqEupt8UjGG1_xmH7XrxBSPMthnwznMhrK9VZU..Vs0u5E9.AXDUifLaoeY2Lkl4ak6HfXa X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:04:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Reply-To: jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1217104127-1223208251=:72597" Message-ID: <414492.72597.qm@web38404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:10:53 +0000 (UTC) --0-1217104127-1223208251=:72597 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As soon as I read the first post I knew the right wing dickwad "SPGoodman" = would respond in his usual fashion. He is a typical head-up-his-ass wingnut= who will defend the GOP administration no matter WHAT kinds of evel thy do= - the latest being responsible for the worst economic meltdown since the G= reat Depression. He's STILL sucking at the Republican nipple for more kool-= aid. =A0 "EF" --- On Sun, 10/5/08, SP Goodman wrote: From: SP Goodman Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:06 AM > Er ... and uh .... > > this relates to looping ... > > ... how so? Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting spittle=20 over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats have displayed= =20 lately. > Aren't you supposed to discuss this > petty party politics polarity > ... elsewhere? Indeedy-doodly! > George > > > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > >> >> > 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8hhShMyZw >> >> Oh please, this isn't even close to the amount of vim Howard >> has at his disposal. If anything this demonstrates how relatively >> inept McCain is at firing up a crowd. >> >> The Dean backlash has always amazed me. It was totally unfair >> and is a fine example of why the mainstream media is useless >> in the US. And by the way so is the "YouTube media". >> >> > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM, magicicada wrote: >> > mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going to >> > get these last 30 days. >> >> Wow. I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a=20 >> number >> of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s. =20 Perhaps >> you could fill us in on what you know. >> >> While you're at it, please compare and contrast how this election >> differs from past elections in your lifetime. Assuming there has >> been another election in your lifetime. >> >> Jeff >> >> > > > > >=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-1217104127-1223208251=:72597 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
As soon as I read the first post I knew the right wing dickwad "SPGoodman" would respond in his usual fashion. He is a typical head-up-his-ass wingnut who will defend the GOP administration no matter WHAT kinds of evel thy do - the latest being responsible for the worst economic meltdown since the Great Depression. He's STILL sucking at the Republican nipple for more kool-aid.
 
"EF"
--- On Sun, 10/5/08, SP Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
From: SP Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:06 AM

> Er ... and uh ....
>
> this relates to looping ...
>
> ... how so?

Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting spittle 
over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats have displayed 
lately.

> Aren't you supposed to discuss this
> petty party politics polarity
> ... elsewhere?

Indeedy-doodly!

> George
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote:
>
>>
>> > 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw
>>
>> Oh please, this isn't even close to the amount of vim Howard
>> has at his disposal.  If anything this demonstrates how relatively
>> inept McCain is at firing up a crowd.
>>
>> The Dean backlash has always amazed me.  It was totally unfair
>> and is a fine example of why the mainstream media is useless
>> in the US.  And by the way so is the "YouTube media".
>>
>> > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM, magicicada wrote:
>> > mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going
to
>> > get these last 30 days.
>>
>> Wow.  I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a 
>> number
>> of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s.  
Perhaps
>> you could fill us in on what you know.
>>
>> While you're at it, please compare and contrast how this election
>> differs from past elections in your lifetime.  Assuming there has
>> been another election in your lifetime.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

--0-1217104127-1223208251=:72597-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 12:11:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A58173BE84; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=KNhM1dJrJ5O1ebArbbufs9brXjbwjoBDHpUEMwVlLaIY08oOwZNbrCPl0Hk1SXgCgL/ItmLdi6YGB3Kkv3RlZioBjorrnheGS0hNnM2wLBliL5JQLlIf794R4goDBajERmX0jx2TbPwdALUkTHZilsv+046dAWe34yRUoJpNLhI=; X-YMail-OSG: rgQXkvQVM1llq2rPldVg9smyrp4TzF8F8uZXxjpG4GmaRWPXLdkhUXGRoBiYLx78j3XVjkvz_jHnByj_mhPUl9t6ooxbCO5QwwnYVNmi6ksU8g_rd7ugaqL7lm9oiDMiJ5F.07y4VTJ0jaLMkxTu9gTK9O8aZ.cKPucenmlXX7_J6xhDP9zXjHMmfnPz24GVXFah X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 05:04:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Reply-To: jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2139061205-1223208271=:4200" Message-ID: <194557.4200.qm@web38403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:11:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-2139061205-1223208271=:4200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As soon as I read the first post I knew the right wing dickwad "SPGoodman" = would respond in his usual fashion. He is a typical head-up-his-ass wingnut= who will defend the GOP administration no matter WHAT kinds of evel thy do= - the latest being responsible for the worst economic meltdown since the G= reat Depression. He's STILL sucking at the Republican nipple for more kool-= aid. =A0 "EF" --- On Sun, 10/5/08, SP Goodman wrote: From: SP Goodman Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:06 AM > Er ... and uh .... > > this relates to looping ... > > ... how so? Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting spittle=20 over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats have displayed= =20 lately. > Aren't you supposed to discuss this > petty party politics polarity > ... elsewhere? Indeedy-doodly! > George > > > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > >> >> > 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0r8hhShMyZw >> >> Oh please, this isn't even close to the amount of vim Howard >> has at his disposal. If anything this demonstrates how relatively >> inept McCain is at firing up a crowd. >> >> The Dean backlash has always amazed me. It was totally unfair >> and is a fine example of why the mainstream media is useless >> in the US. And by the way so is the "YouTube media". >> >> > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM, magicicada wrote: >> > mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going to >> > get these last 30 days. >> >> Wow. I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a=20 >> number >> of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s. =20 Perhaps >> you could fill us in on what you know. >> >> While you're at it, please compare and contrast how this election >> differs from past elections in your lifetime. Assuming there has >> been another election in your lifetime. >> >> Jeff >> >> > > > > >=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-2139061205-1223208271=:4200 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
As soon as I read the first post I knew the right wing dickwad "SPGoodman" would respond in his usual fashion. He is a typical head-up-his-ass wingnut who will defend the GOP administration no matter WHAT kinds of evel thy do - the latest being responsible for the worst economic meltdown since the Great Depression. He's STILL sucking at the Republican nipple for more kool-aid.
 
"EF"
--- On Sun, 10/5/08, SP Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> wrote:
From: SP Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net>
Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:06 AM

> Er ... and uh ....
>
> this relates to looping ...
>
> ... how so?

Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting spittle 
over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats have displayed 
lately.

> Aren't you supposed to discuss this
> petty party politics polarity
> ... elsewhere?

Indeedy-doodly!

> George
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote:
>
>>
>> > 2008/10/4 Chris Sewell <midifriedchicken@comcast.net
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r8hhShMyZw
>>
>> Oh please, this isn't even close to the amount of vim Howard
>> has at his disposal.  If anything this demonstrates how relatively
>> inept McCain is at firing up a crowd.
>>
>> The Dean backlash has always amazed me.  It was totally unfair
>> and is a fine example of why the mainstream media is useless
>> in the US.  And by the way so is the "YouTube media".
>>
>> > On Oct 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM, magicicada wrote:
>> > mccain is a disgusting p.o.s. watch how dirty this mofo is going
to
>> > get these last 30 days.
>>
>> Wow.  I and most of the people I know disagree with McCain about a 
>> number
>> of things but I have no evidence that he's a disgusting p.o.s.  
Perhaps
>> you could fill us in on what you know.
>>
>> While you're at it, please compare and contrast how this election
>> differs from past elections in your lifetime.  Assuming there has
>> been another election in your lifetime.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--0-2139061205-1223208271=:4200-- From ibrahimalpha@eircom.net Sun Oct 5 13:29:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1240 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 13:29:47 UTC Received: from mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.17]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0843E3BE77 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 51367 messnum 6206859 invoked from network[86.43.60.104/webmail04.webmail.cra.eircom.net]); 5 Oct 2008 13:09:03 -0000 Received: from webmail04.webmail.cra.eircom.net (HELO webmailclassic.eircom.net) (86.43.60.104) by mail01.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 51367) with SMTP; 5 Oct 2008 13:09:03 -0000 From: "Ibrahim Alpha" Reply-To: To: chnop_onw@yahoo.co.uk Subject: FROM IBRAHIM ALPHA AND REPLY URGENT PLZ. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:09:03 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 41.203.234.64 X-Mailer: Eircom Net CRC Webmail (http://www.eircom.net/) Organization: Eircom Net (http://www.eircom.net/) Message-Id: <20081005132947.0843E3BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> FROM THE DESK OF IBRAHIM ALPHA BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER, AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO. Dear Friend, I am the manager of bill and exchange foreign remittance at the department of African Development Bank (ADB). In my departmentn we discovered an abandoned sum of $ 22.6 m US dollars (Twenty two Millon six hundred thousand US dollars) . In an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer who died along with his entire family in a concord plane crash in the year 2000 in paris that almost took the whole life of the pasengeres on board. Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately we learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that I and other officials in my department now decided to make this businness proposal to you and release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and we don;t want this money to go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill. The Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if such money remained unclamed after ten years, the money will be transfered into the Bank treasury account as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner. We agree that 30 % of this money will be for you as foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account, 10 % will be set aside for expenses incured during the business and 60 % would be for ;me and my colleagues. Thereafter I and my colleagues will visit your country for disbursement accoding to the percentages indicated. Therefore to enable the immediate trnansfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relations or next of kin of the deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location where in the money will be remitted. Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text of the application. I will not fail to bring to your notice that this transaction is hitch free and that you should not entertain any atom of fear as all required arrangements have been made for the transfer. You should contact me immediately as soon as you receive this letter. Trusting to hear from you immediately. Your;s faithfully, MR. IBRAHIM ALPHA (Bill and exchange department) AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 13:39:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F3A33BE7B; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=UEzDMzj2UmF0YRktvOS8iuQXRTw8jfw8FkjZ2fdg0fg=; b=mT3ECklg9nk62x86CXCJ1gEOZX1X4+6vCK5223FkH/x08eTOESWHQzWMgUTUxX4QuO vnmDCOrkcglxJqs0gjiNnFttzp1WZJQd4Cd4EElFLdavm1wvHx8QFSDye569v0A/kJyc Dn0lmWNVQUuY9m9DMTo9y/uwpelgUcjusGsN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bEMkMAq3Aesdzm25cvOZfVRe18iOU09HvllF4gvsW/ZwLkT1w6CUIPxQtoXmXNjt/E LOzHWksA5aRsjR9oT49OnQ/DKqL1zPqbRMC74kcA0O7nUlA24UfMU7jWwbk2DAxA+mS1 uvLQ4Pyw1hdIT6z0L+Gm2KVO3G7a8jXU11hSw= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810050639k4fbc91a4ud8c287290e0b18eb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:39:48 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-Reply-To: <414492.72597.qm@web38404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40420_10424266.1223213988382" References: <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> <414492.72597.qm@web38404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: afc659c2c686922f Resent-Message-ID: <3Afs4C.A.xsB.mOM6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:39:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_40420_10424266.1223213988382 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well, that response seemed a little harsh, people are allowed to have different views here on LD, without getting called names, but I do have to agree with the sentiment. You know I always assume that all musicians are intelligent, well informed, and liberal people, fighting injustice, and yes ok.. I always assume they are good left wing, democratic people. I'm staggered, amazed and very very disapointed to be proven wrong. Mark Elmer Fuddski wrote: > the right wing dickwad "SPGoodman" would respond .. a typical > head-up-his-ass wingnut ...evil thy do - STILL sucking at the Republican > nipple for more kool-aid. > > "EF" > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_40420_10424266.1223213988382 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Well, that response seemed a little harsh, people are allowed to have different views here on LD, without getting called names, but I do have to agree with the sentiment. You know I always assume that all musicians are intelligent, well informed, and liberal people, fighting injustice, and yes ok.. I always assume they are good left wing, democratic people. I'm staggered, amazed and very very disapointed to be proven wrong.

Mark


 Elmer Fuddski <jakebrakesrule@yahoo.com> wrote:
 the right wing dickwad "SPGoodman" would respond .. a typical head-up-his-ass wingnut ...evil thy do -  STILL sucking at the Republican nipple for more kool-aid.
 
"EF"





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------=_Part_40420_10424266.1223213988382-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 14:37:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C873BE81; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 10:38:59 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-reply-to: <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Well then, it must be a tape-based looping system and someone's spliced the tape! And the playback head needs to be cleaned and degaussed big time! ;-) Cheers, Bill Dave wrote: > 4 years? 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YOURS TRUELLY Mrs. Pang Khan Admin Officer. ___________________________________________________________________________ Mail sent from WebMail service at PHP-Nuke Powered Site - http://yoursite.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 16:16:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79EC33BE7B; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: AN ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES THAT MENTIONS LOOPING (AT LEAST BRIEFLY) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:16:52 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:16:58 +0000 (UTC) A Man of Many Talents, Eager to Use Them All By ALLAN KOZINN EARLY this summer Caleb Burhans cleared his performance calendar for=20 the first time since 2001, when he graduated from the Eastman School of=20= Music in Rochester and moved to New York City. He wasn=92t taking a=20 vacation, exactly. Lincoln Center and Alarm Will Sound, a new-music=20 orchestra in which he plays violin, had commissioned him to write a=20 work to be performed in March as part of the reopening festivities at=20 Alice Tully Hall, and Mr. Burhans resolved to do nothing but compose. Well, sort of. He set aside his weekly bread-and-butter job, singing as=20= a countertenor in the Trinity Choir on Sunday mornings, and turned down=20= pickup orchestra gigs. But at the Bang on a Can Marathon in June, he played his =93No,=94 for=20= violin and electronics, and performed with Alarm Will Sound and another=20= new-music group, Signal. He also performed with Signal at the Ojai=20 Music Festival in California. And in a three-day stretch in August, in=20= New York, he sang with two chamber choirs (also conducting one of=20 them), played and sang in a pop theater piece and gave a concert with=20 itsnotyouitsme, his ambient rock duo. And when his Sept. 1 deadline arrived, the industrious Mr. Burhans not=20= only had completed his work for Lincoln Center, =93oh ye of little faith=20= ... (do you know where your children are?),=94 but had started two more=20= pieces as well. At 28, Mr. Burhans has pursued a career path so logical that it seems=20 almost foolproof. Just sing, compose and master several instruments=20 (besides the violin he plays viola, guitar, bass, keyboards and=20 percussion) and the New York freelance world is your oyster. But this=20 is a new development. Until recently, the conventional wisdom went,=20 musicians with diverse talents should specialize: decide whether they=20 are better suited to composing or performing, singing or playing an=20 instrument, working in classical music or a variety of pop. And while most young musicians still make the traditional choices and=20 scramble to find work in freelance ensembles until they have=20 established themselves as recitalists or chamber players, others are=20 seeking to diversify. Mr. Burhans=92s generation is the third to come of=20= age during the rock era, and where conservatories once taught only=20 classical music, most now offer courses and even degrees in jazz and=20 rock, recording technology and the music industry itself. And musicians=20= who grew up hearing everything from Mozart and Ligeti to Wilco and=20 Radiohead are less inclined than their elders to compartmentalize their=20= passions. =93I was always told, when I was a kid, that you have to decide at some=20= point what it is you want to do,=94 Mr. Burhans said one afternoon early=20= in his composing break. =93And I thought, that=92s cool. I=92m going to=20= school and study violin, viola and composition, and I=92m playing in = jazz=20 and rock bands, and when I move to New York, that will decide it for=20 me. People will see what I=92m best at, and that=92s what I=92m going to = do. =93But when I got here, I actually did the opposite. I kept doing them=20= all, and I love it. The variety keeps me on my toes, creatively.=94 A film about Mr. Burhans would be a cross between =93Zelig=94 and=20 =93Amadeus.=94 In New York=92s trendy new-music world, he is everywhere,=20= working with just about everybody as both performer and composer. His=20 name stands out on a roster, and if you=92ve heard him as a violinist,=20= guitarist, bassist or mandolinist in a new-music group, it can be=20 puzzling to find him listed among the choristers at Trinity Church or=20 as a member of the disco band Escort or the techno ensemble Bleknlok. But there=92s no mistaking him. He=92s the one with the short, sometimes=20= spiky hair, retro eyeglasses, black nail polish and earring. As new as Mr. Burhans=92s career approach is, he is hardly an anomaly.=20= Seven other musicians in Alarm Will Sound also compose. Several have=20 rock bands as well. And the number of musicians with fingers in both=20 classical and pop seems to be growing. Lev Zhurbin, a young violist and composer who works under the name=20 Ljova, has largely given up his chamber ensemble jobs now that his=20 composing career has taken off. He performs most often with his=20 genre-crossing ensembles, the Kontraband and Romashka, both of which=20 draw on classical pop and world music. Christina Courtin, a Juilliard-trained violinist, plays in orchestras=20 but is also a pop singer-songwriter with her own band and an album=20 coming from Nonesuch. And Brooklyn Rider, a string quartet that=20 sometimes accompanies Ms. Courtin =97 and that, like Ms. Courtin, plays=20= in the Knights, a chamber orchestra =97 performs a repertory that tilts=20= toward new music, sometimes with multicultural strands. =93Playing different kinds of music is something young musicians=20 increasingly have to do,=94 said Justin Kantor, a 29-year-old cellist = and=20 the proprietor of Le Poisson Rouge, a new Greenwich Village club that=20 offers both pop and classical performances. =93And besides, it=92s fun.=94= Role models are few for musical switch-hitters. Leonard Bernstein, who=20= balanced conducting, composing, piano playing and multimedia lecturing,=20= is one. So are Steve Reich and Philip Glass, who early in their careers=20= revived the 19th-century notion of the touring composer-performer,=20 leading their own ensembles in programs devoted to their works when=20 there was no other way to get them played. =93My goal (when I was 14) was to move to NYC and play/sing for Philip,=94= =20 Mr. Burhans wrote in an e-mail message. =93That didn=92t really work out = (I=20 work with Steve Reich instead, which is cool by me ...) but I=92ve = always=20 held up Philip and Steve as models of the do-it-yourself way of=20 approaching music.=94 But in an interview a few weeks later, he noted a significant=20 difference between himself and those composers. =93It=92s different for me because I thrive on doing other people=92s = music=20 as well as my own. And if I didn=92t have those outlets, I don=92t know=20= what my music would be like. I=92m so influenced by other things around=20= me. It=92s nice to know I=92m singing in a church service in the = morning,=20 and I=92m playing with a rock band at night.=94 The catholicity of Mr. Burhans=92s listening habits is something he has=20= in common with an increasing number of musicians of his generation.=20 Classical musicians who grew up in the 1960s and =9270s may have = listened=20 to rock and played jazz in their off hours, but those influences didn=92t=20= inform their performing lives. One reason was that =93crossover=94=20 projects, which sought to link pop and classical music, were regarded=20 as both unhip and inept by listeners on both sides. The doorways=20 between the repertories were few. But by the time Mr. Burhans came of age, he noticed even at a=20 considerable distance from New York that the downtown Manhattan indie=20 rock scene had links to avant-garde artists and composers. And from his=20= point of view, as both a listener and a player, the boundaries between=20= avant-garde rock and avant-garde classical seemed invitingly porous. The varied musical life that Mr. Burhans leads is evident to anyone=20 visiting his studio, a sunny, instrument-filled room in his Washington=20= Heights apartment. A book of Mr. Glass=92s piano works sits on an=20 electric piano along one wall. And on music stands to either side of a=20= selection of guitars, violins (Baroque, modern and electric), a=20 mandolin and two violas (also Baroque and modern), Mr. Burhans has a=20 book of Bach sonatas, Mr. Reich=92s =93Violin Phase=94 and works by = Biber,=20 Paganini, Ysa=FFe, Xenakis and John Adams, as well as a couple of his = own=20 pieces. On the floor toward the center of the room, Mr. Burhans has a Casio=20 sampler and a collection of electronic pedals, which he uses to make=20 loops: recordings of musical passages that repeat continually. In some=20= of his music, shifting loop sequences form a backdrop against which=20 melodies unfold. Sitting at his computer, Mr. Burhans played a handful of his loops,=20 some of which he uses as they are, in spacey, meditative (or at times,=20= rambunctious) electronic works; others are radically transformed. A=20 plaintive, minor-key violin and bass loop was the basis of a haunting=20 choral setting, =93Nunc Dimittis=94 (2004), written for a church in=20 Rochester and also performed at Trinity; the new piece for Alarm Will=20 Sound and Alice Tully Hall is partly based on a loop as well. Playing several instruments and being drawn to most musical styles is=20 in Mr. Burhans=92s DNA. His father, Ron Burhans, was a guitarist and=20 bassist who toured as a sideman with Ray Charles, the Everly Brothers=20 and Kenny Rogers. After he gave up touring, he worked as a one-man=20 party band, with a repertory of about 3,000 songs and a setup that=20 included MIDI guitars, bass pedals, a drum machine and a vocal=20 harmonizer. (He died when Caleb was 17.) =93I=92ve tried to figure out how Caleb ended up the way he did,=94 his=20= mother, Venus Burhans, said. =93I would say part of it was modeling from=20= his father, who as a musician did not try to peg himself as just rock=20 =92n=92 roll. He was ready with all the country songs, the classics or=20= whatever was out there, basically so that he could work and put food on=20= the table. We could see that the more versatile you were, the more=20 marketable you were. So Caleb was always around music. His dad had all=20= his equipment set up in the middle of the living room, and whenever he=20= was away from it, Caleb would run up to the microphone and sing into=20 it.=94 Mr. Burhans also got a sense of a musician=92s itinerant lifestyle early=20= on. He was born in Monterey, Calif., in 1980, and lived briefly in=20 Chiloquin, Ore., before moving to Houston and then to Janesville, Wis.=20= He began his musical studies in Houston, when his second-grade music=20 teacher persuaded him to join the Spring Branch Boys Choir; soon after,=20= he was drafted into a production of =93The Pirates of Penzance=94 as=20 Buttercup and discovered that he liked the attention. He was also =97 haltingly at first =97 becoming interested in = instruments.=20 He turned down his father=92s offer of guitar lessons and gave up the=20 flute after a week before becoming fascinated with the violin. His=20 parents resisted his pleas for a violin at first, but when the family=20 moved to Wisconsin and Mr. Burhans was still clamoring for a fiddle,=20 they gave in. =93I didn=92t listen to any classical music until I started playing the=20= violin,=94 Mr. Burhans said. =93I discovered Mozart and the Beatles in = the=20 same year, when I was 9. I came one day and said, =91Could you guys get=20= me a Mozart tape?=92 And my parents weren=92t sure why, but they got me=20= one. I was listening to Mozart, Beethoven and Bach, and then Philip=20 Glass. Before Stravinsky or Bartok. It made sense, because I grew up=20 with 1980s rock, which is very compressed, and then there was Mozart,=20 with those Alberti basses that are almost like the arpeggio sound in=20 Glass, so when I first heard Philip=92s music, it made total sense. It=20= wasn=92t until I was 15 or 16 that I began listening to Ligeti, Xenakis,=20= Ravi Shakar and Aphex Twin. And I was, like, =91Wow, this is all=20 great.=92=A0=94 Having discovered his diverse group of musical favorites, Mr. Burhans=20 continued to sing in choirs and joined two professional local=20 orchestras when he was 13. He also played and sang in punk and jazz=20 bands. He studied piano for a while, getting as far as the Beethoven=20 concertos before deciding to give it up to spend more time composing.=20 When he made that decision, he also asked his parents to remove the=20 television and Nintendo game from his bedroom so that he wouldn=92t be=20= distracted by them. Summers, he attended music camps, including Interlochen in Michigan,=20 where he also spent a year preparing for conservatory auditions. Among=20= the musicians he came to know there was his future wife, Martha Cluver,=20= then a violinist and violist, now a soprano who often works with Mr.=20 Reich, John Zorn and other composers. =93We=92ve known each other since we were 11,=94 said Ms. Cluver, who = grew up=20 in Fort Atkinson, Wis., 30 minutes from Janesville. =93We had the same=20= violin teacher. Even before I =91liked=92 him, I thought he was this=20 genius.=94 Ms. Cluver and Mr. Burhans both completed their music degrees at the=20= Eastman School, where they became involved with Ossia, a new-music=20 orchestra from which a group of graduating students =97 including Mr.=20 Burhans and Alan Pierson, the conductor =97 formed Alarm Will Sound in=20= 2001. =93I encountered Caleb when he was a freshman,=94 Mr. Pierson said, =93but= I=20 had heard about him before I met him. A friend of mine who had been at=20= Interlochen mentioned that there was a phenomenal violinist coming to=20 Eastman. When we were planning an all-Ligeti program in 1998, we were=20 looking for a violinist. One of my friends, walking across the campus,=20= ran into this kid looking at the score for the Ligeti Piano Concerto=20 and thought, that has to be Caleb. We auditioned him, and he quickly=20 became an important part of the new-music scene.=94 Mr. Burhans took a job as a substitute in the Rochester Philharmonic,=20 which was sometimes rocky. Once, when Mr. Burhans turned up at a=20 rehearsal with his hair dyed purple, the orchestra=92s managing director=20= asked him to do something about it before the concert. Mr. Burhans=20 turned up in a witch=92s wig, cut short. The next week he tried to dye=20= his hair a conventional red, but because of the purple die, it came out=20= crimson, so he shaved his head. =93I found out that one of the trumpet players was going around saying=20= that I was making a mockery of classical music because my hair was=20 purple,=94 Mr. Burhans said. =93And I had a really intense conversation=20= with the managing director, where I said: =91You know, I=92m just trying = to=20 help classical music, because if we don=92t get more people like me=20 coming to these concerts, this orchestra is going to die. The only=20 people who are coming are old people, and you=92re shooting yourself in=20= the foot.=92 And he said: =91Yeah, you=92re right. Sorry.=92 =93But I made a sign that said, =91I Make a Mockery of Classical Music=92 = and=20 started wearing it around.=94 Mr. Burhans had decided by then that one of the brass rings of a=20 traditional classical music career =97 a seat in a major symphony=20 orchestra =97 was not for him. That was a big decision: jobs at the top=20= orchestras are scarce, but the base pay at several now tops $100,000.=20 (At smaller orchestras around the country, the schedules are sparser=20 and salaries can be around $25,000. Some musicians cobble together a=20 living by splitting their services among several orchestras in=20 adjoining states, which means driving hundreds of miles between jobs.)=20= Playing in freelance ensembles and chamber groups, to say nothing of=20 composing, though more attractive to musicians of Mr. Burhans=92s=20 interests, is more financially precarious. When Mr. Burhans and Ms. Cluver graduated from Eastman, they considered=20= moving to Boston but opted for New York. The decision was made=20 carefully, with the advice of friends who were pursuing careers. New=20 York remains the most vibrant center of classical music performance in=20= the United States, and it offers the most freelance opportunities. Even so, it=92s hard for a conservatory graduate to hit the ground=20 running, and Mr. Burhans and Ms. Cluver lived on credit cards at first=20= before landing choral jobs at Trinity Church in downtown Manhattan. The=20= jobs remain the basis of Mr. Burhans and Ms. Cluver=92s household=20 economy, although they now both pursue a crowded schedule of freelance=20= jobs as well. But lately Mr. Burhans has been wondering whether the cacophonous=20 variety of his career is a double-edged sword. =93I know Caleb is confused about this sometimes,=94 Ms. Cluver said. = =93He=20 thinks about focusing more on composing or on his band itsnotyouitsme.=20= But then all these other opportunities come up, and he gets really=20 excited about them. He=92s just so talented, it=92s hard for him to pick=20= and choose. With me, I=92m just focusing on singing, and he=92s told me,=20= =91I=92m jealous of you, because you know what you=92re doing.=92 But I = don=92t.=20 He=92s the one who knows what he=92s doing. And most of the time, he=92s=20= happy staying busy.=94 His success has not dulled his wry, sometimes self-deprecating humor.=20 =93When I was in school,=94 he said, =93my grandmother asked me what I = wanted=20 to do. And I said, =91I=92m going to move to New York and freelance.=92 = She=20 said: =91What do you mean? Don=92t you want to be in an orchestra?=92 So = I=20 said, =91No, I want to live from paycheck to paycheck and not have = health=20 insurance.=92 She was terrified: =91Oh, my God!=92 And here I am, living=20= paycheck to paycheck and not having health insurance. I=92m fulfilling = my=20 dream.=94= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 16:17:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A47C23BE8B; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:17:12 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:17:17 +0000 (UTC) > He is a typical head-up-his-ass wingnut who will defend the GOP > administration no matter WHAT kinds of evel thy do - the latest being > responsible for the worst economic meltdown since the Great > Depression. Note to self: Never EVER fuel a political debate on a special interest mailing list....:-) After a long hard day of angry media consumption I recommend relaxing with sites like this. But be warned though, there are some big words in here. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/ who_caused_the_economic_crisis.html I know it is fashionable to both blame the government for all our problems, and expect the government to fix all our problems. But I think we need to give some consideration to the bottom of the economic food chain. http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=1824 I'll take it a step further. Why isn't anyone angry at the morons that took out loans they knew they couldn't pay back? California real estate in particular has been a Ponzi scheme for decades. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 17:43:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69DF3BE7B; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:42:58 EDT Subject: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bf3.414de9d9.361a56a2_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:43:01 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bf3.414de9d9.361a56a2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our brains out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love to hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but i must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think that was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i enjoy the debate.....m "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. 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hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our brains out= over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love to hea= r everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always made m= e think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but i must ad= mit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think that was why= this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i enjoy the deba= te.....m

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(http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000001) --part1_bf3.414de9d9.361a56a2_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 17:50:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5490A3BE84; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3619 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 17:50:48 UTC Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 11:53:09 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-reply-to: <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9OCbV.A.Zo.45P6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:50:48 +0000 (UTC) Why isn't anyone angry at the morons > that took out loans they knew they couldn't pay back? That's a tough one. For one thing, a lot of people probably thought they could pay back the loans--or at least hoped they could. When they discovered (later) that their interest rate skyrocketed, then they could no longer afford to pay. Second, I don't necessarily blame the consumers--at least not all the time. It's pretty tough to turn down the opportunity to buy a home (or take some other large loan) if someone is going to offer you the money. I blame the lenders, in other words. Another example: I have so many credit cards (and I get solicitations every week for more) with a total credit line of an obscene amount of money. Why in the world not just one bank--but several--would extend me credit lines of 20K or more, I have no idea. But they do. I could get in serious financial trouble very easily. Would I be to blame, or do the banks bear some responsibility as well? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 18:05:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFC8A3BE81; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223229902; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=osHwIRkfQkExUlg0+uO3HQx920Q=; b=a+9Sj7eITUxxXwAmcrPk9tLgiAl75zXs4rEFHfUA1h7V4mZeQJtkkBun7bZUzoQH IIYDDa6/JiuNO5sMko+9NIZYa6RzWbP9sUhdXFleF1gUVECjZnWpOpeUwYUupGXy; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RXTeoHK8M4kDvUYG-BMA:9 a=xffF3sMNkSl0PmmkSwxCxfukSckA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=dLtXAj8oGCT6JoD3Yz8A:9 a=ah-umyoqPR0fMP9OdZMA:7 a=OF1X81_nFdoG1I2QbvqG_-HaNj0A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001501c92714$e1924ae0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: OT: election Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:04:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C926F3.59FB2730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:05:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C926F3.59FB2730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am personally sorry to see this debate here but defend ya'lls right to = express especially unpopular sentiments. I no longer (for 10 years) watch any tv or listen to commercial radio. I = have tried to avoid this election as I won't vote so I don't have a say = (Ron Paul!!!). Sorry. I keep my world small and wear it like a loose set of clothes.=20 Here is a little tune that sums up my feeling on this debate.. http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Return%20of%20Schizosphere.mp3 And maybe we should get our priorities sraight as we have all our eggs = in one basket...before its too late for talk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DLlF8APEkh-E peace out, Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C926F3.59FB2730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am personally sorry to see this = debate here but=20 defend ya'lls right to express especially unpopular = sentiments.
 
I no longer (for 10 years) watch any tv = or listen=20 to commercial radio. I have tried to avoid this election as I won't vote = so I=20 don't have a say (Ron Paul!!!). Sorry.
 
 I keep my world small and wear it = like a=20 loose set of clothes.
 
Here is a little tune that sums up my = feeling on=20 this debate..
 
ht= tp://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Return%20of%20Schizosphere.mp3
 
And maybe we should get our priorities = sraight as=20 we have all our eggs in one basket...before its too late for = talk.
 
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DLlF8APEkh-E
 
peace out,
 
Jeff
------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C926F3.59FB2730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 18:11:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEC6C3BE8B; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8rdGTxtapepxZravVMM7ej5dgMQc2zYt3rbamiYpFQ8=; b=Af3Bf+dt2Uj1RC0Oy60r9q1bhrhssHKMhn//qVSUD4IZhnNbUrXRpyIv5H0y4jiiXY EdvPeYfSTvpxzk1DRtlvg55uUYsSOioR7USa2eRllJ8idyM3mwKVwqTFftKZPU+iFFPs KqfPUxQ3xVKen5stAqzRMJbl7jMv3GsBl7AvE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=K8nRNlAA3uUJruB/ppCDXX5LNXw7f3DrTlsxNOe+A2e3mNqdrx0h7tUPSh/X4GkezH vNdjvsyLFq3UXRPWf8USlIemTsvS98t8/zpKukdFRa//0K/2b6EreLx4VYZDFu0PiHpR 18yv+EAXKTQNHudhDUjFEl2ivmdvbcQf7p5M4= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:11:14 -0700 From: "David Sackman" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-Reply-To: <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:11:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, long time lurker, new poster here. Couldn't resist replying to this. I, too, blame the banks. After all, they're the professionals and "should" know better. I work for a mental health agency in California and we had a client on conservatorship (we managed his money because he couldn't) and he continually received credit card offers, would spend up to the limit and be unable to pay. This happened over and over again even though he defaulted on over $30k worth of debt, and despite his case manager repeatedly calling the credit card companies and telling them to stop. I really enjoy the discussions here both on and off topic and the generally respectful tone... By way of introduction I loop with a Boomerang, mostly with guitar and bass, but am currently distracted learning 7 string Brazilian guitar (choro) music. David Sackman On 10/5/08, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > Why isn't anyone angry at the morons > > > that took out loans they knew they couldn't pay back? > > > > That's a tough one. For one thing, a lot of people probably thought they > could pay back the loans--or at least hoped they could. When they discovered > (later) that their interest rate skyrocketed, then they could no longer > afford to pay. Second, I don't necessarily blame the consumers--at least not > all the time. It's pretty tough to turn down the opportunity to buy a home > (or take some other large loan) if someone is going to offer you the money. > I blame the lenders, in other words. Another example: I have so many credit > cards (and I get solicitations every week for more) with a total credit line > of an obscene amount of money. Why in the world not just one bank--but > several--would extend me credit lines of 20K or more, I have no idea. But > they do. I could get in serious financial trouble very easily. Would I be to > blame, or do the banks bear some responsibility as well? > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 18:25:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 581953BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:24:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:25:17 +0000 (UTC) At 11:06 AM +0100 10/5/08, SP Goodman wrote: >Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting >spittle over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats >have displayed lately. Oy vey. You must be one of those "low-information voters" the Republicans rely on. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 18:25:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B10FD3BE98; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 461 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:25:24 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=8irf4Pzsl+N7DMTlY4qtEDlu2xkaEYsUSvIaEbn8DtE=; b=EXA62DEBYx6aTaxPy3kcwxyDl3cZg4RTO8ekSMyoJgGPVMflix/wtWScGkuKZTADig RRhYEvzQYjOzqYgK8PiyPuImQW9FFrqbtLo1UK37iDKZOWhNh778Gfjt/ylp7zQwyJOz LJ4IF2Cy9Y6iX6vEeoho9zv97FrDbkQjCAOtE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=W5btb0LNraL6YOrqA0Onmf/iZkVNL654firqb/WVdHup0ypiAgQ479K1DFnt4bOWb0 w/HKc9c5tb2CFushvq5soAOZJJZfl04pGxauG/ix2jXyJckLx27JTn+QQB9Hr5rMrGE9 8al51jrMLI4+0gGeELkgaW2ZZiNuW1+YcegB0= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 11:17:42 -0700 From: "David Sackman" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Promote your NYC gig - free! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <-wTpGB.A.rhD.UaQ6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, thought I'd pass this on from Downtown Music Gallery in NYC, for getting info on your NYC gigs out. "A possible tip for Musicians - from around the world - in promoting their NYC area gigs Stagebuddy.com ..allows users to post their NYC area gigs for free - for any kind of performing arts big or tiny. It automatically formats input information into an organized segment of its own (as opposed to the unreadable mess of Myspace and other sites), complete with picture, description, and calendar) While not, by any means, centered on the Downtown Music scene, this could be of help in cross-pollinating the awareness of such events amongst the larger NY audience, so check it out" Hope this is useful! David From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 19:25:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BFA13BE81; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=wc1XQt33zBGksgCY94DiTE+O5sVi0YLH/keGc75ru8F6uNPDdqDhqEN74fMll3kTRxM5rozJMHZzMvXa/iQ5gBWHZjwfBVxpUrz2TcMyoj+Ryq3hMry1Fi5Yn1Y7+qVTnSaTAIw0mWl7zH6pRqmKP4AWU22IfQ9ForxEMwj5dZI=; X-YMail-OSG: c.OdGN8VM1ndqvXKz54QtiFehR_zBUJdnem.yQytYc8LTZpjyZ3VdFg24v61Mxzr8VFCyuwrVpZH8_CjE9FzFcbJN5TBJtzRbe2mPbJcxGik14SWXR_syoto2lMrPaKnEN44v0zCUisw76jzvi9xlcE1opduuKAdpPUc65xFiLM9COYO2w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 12:25:32 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <396384.77118.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:25:33 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ---- From: Jeffrey Larson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2008 9:17:12 AM Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. I'll take it a step further. Why isn't anyone angry at the morons that took out loans they knew they couldn't pay back? California real estate in particular has been a Ponzi scheme for decades. I, for one, am mad at those morons. Pretty seriously mad. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 19:43:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3A753BE80; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:43:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=54Bl0W315ripMhxOHT3iR2cbgULOQrQ1W0NvEZ2b1EE=; b=Yrvyy3JEiumA+gLYhNapfAoa7fIC/fkO26V6l4L+Y0l3sZL0AroyL1sUB91Ch1tw0A 1NufBCheQDmQ1SRBol462vxzexOpIutQtk0T7CHaSPWhWPsxbkNNHwNFzea7q5GYlsZA 2L1m2DFD+AdVHIReXgRWbLPo5olhGmziIXOiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=oOKIpCzIPFWx9sPd0dHz4IQX8aXCzVSWrFlx+MJn61Wee04faikal4lcdj6LkLcxoX fzGr0G2eECEIGsnBsiwhQ/NwZN2DX/NCkbakyWFbknI2QiuNTMhgQAMH91z/Nf/c4oqY +B4JGagCpGi97Q8/8OEIG1t6V9l+HU4ENK9Ew= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810051243h4db50c6cu19d7d980543785b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:43:47 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oud tunings In-Reply-To: <958694.58035.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28660_26022744.1223235827994" References: <000901c925c0$324f5be0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <958694.58035.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_UukQ.A.7xG.1jR6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:43:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_28660_26022744.1223235827994 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Jeff as you know from our initial discussions i'm using the Turkish/Armenian Tim ref's EABead. If Torn plays standard on guitar I would bet he uses this or possibly is torquing this one to near guitar as it's not far away. I think however using these intervals gives some really wonderful textures. With my guitars I largely work in DADGAD and had givenn some thought to using DADFAD which I had found in my research however I've been a fan of EABead in my time iwth the oud and continue to be. At the recent NYC Fretless Guitar Festwhich I performed on both guitar and oud, another musician/fretless player there Edward Powell who is also an oudist in addition to being a luthier, had suggested dropping the low E string down to B which I haven't tried as yet so tuing BABead. I'm not sure with the nylon string how well the E to B would tone but it might become more usful percussively from it's looseness. Hope you are digging it... J On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Can't remember where/when (and this could be wrong), but I seem to recall > DT saying in an interview that (as he does on guitar) he uses several > different tunings. > > You might start with these and tweak with impunity: > Standard Egyptian/Arab: D G A D G C > Old Turkish Classical: A D E A D G > New Turkish Classical: F# B E A D G > Turkish/Armenian: E A B E A D > Turkish/Armenian Variant: C# F# B E A D > Standard Cumbus: D E A D G C > > This page is useful too: > > -t- > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > > > From: Jeff Duke > > Subject: Oud tunings > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 9:26 PM > > Just want to throw this out here, you can mail me back > > offlist to save bandwidth. > > Does anyone know what tuning David Torn uses? I have search > > for awhile with no luck and its hard for me as a very new > > oudist to tell from his recordings. > > > > thanx, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange. > > The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll > > be. > > Allen Steele > > Galaxy Blues > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_28660_26022744.1223235827994 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Jeff as you know  from our initial discussions i= 'm using the Turkish/Armenian Tim ref's EABead.  If Torn plays= standard on guitar I would bet he uses this or possibly is torquing this o= ne to near guitar as it's not far away.  I think however using the= se intervals gives some really wonderful textures.  With my guitars I = largely work in DADGAD and had  givenn some thought to using DADFAD wh= ich I had found in my research however I've been a fan of EABead in my = time iwth the oud and continue to be.  At the recent NYC Fretless G= uitar Fest which I performed on both guitar and oud, another musician/f= retless player there Edward Powell= who is also an oudist in addition to being a luthier, had suggested dr= opping the low E string down to B which I haven't tried as yet so tuing= BABead.  I'm not sure with the nylon string how well the E to B w= ould tone but it might become more usful percussively from it's loosene= ss.  Hope you are digging it...
 
J

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com= > wrote:
Hi Jeff,

Can't rememb= er where/when (and this could be wrong), but I seem to recall DT saying in = an interview that (as he does on guitar) he uses several different tunings.=

You might start with these and tweak with impunity:
Standard Egyptia= n/Arab: D G A D G C
Old Turkish Classical: A D E A D G
New Turkish Cl= assical: F# B E A D G
Turkish/Armenian: E A B E A D
Turkish/Armenian = Variant: C# F# B E A D
Standard Cumbus: D E A D G C

This page is useful too: <http://= www.oudcafe.com/stringing_and_tuning.htm>

-t-


http://www.mys= pace.com/nimbletunes
http://cdbaby= .com/all/timnelson
http://www.youtube.com/speleman62


--- On Fri,= 10/3/08, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@emb= arqmail.com> wrote:

> From: Jeff Duke <jeff_= d@embarqmail.com>
> Subject: Oud tunings
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com
> Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 9:26 PM
> Just want to throw this out here, you can mail m= e back
> offlist to save bandwidth.
> Does anyone know what tun= ing David Torn uses? I have search
> for awhile with no luck and its = hard for me as a very new
> oudist to tell from his recordings.
>
> thanx,
>
= > Jeff
>
>
> Out here in the Great Beyond, everything = is strange.
> The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'= ;ll
> be.
> Allen Steele
> Galaxy Blues







--
The Acoustic Wor= ld Guitar of Jim Goodin  - h= ttp://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
------=_Part_28660_26022744.1223235827994-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 19:52:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96DCF3BE8B; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:52:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:52:05 UTC Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 14:52:06 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: repeater OS 2.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48E90CD6.5080408@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: <5T9RLC.A.lNH.lrR6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:52:05 +0000 (UTC) When I installed the Repeater OS update, I remember reprogramming the FCB1010. IIRC there were several controller changes that no longer worked ( I think CC_ERASE_LOOP was broken, but that CC message 37 w/ value=79 worked fine ). And I really needed to switch some channel assignments around for various downstream devices. Despite the time invested in revamping the FCB bamks, the new functionality was well worth the update price.. Dan Ash White Plains, NY > Subject: > Re: repeater OS 2.0 > From: > "mark francombe" > Date: > Fri, 3 Oct 2008 21:00:18 +0200 > > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > i dont know the truth here, but Im sure I didnt have to reprogram my > fcb after upgrading... m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 20:04:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5A3D3BE87; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:02:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:04:06 +0000 (UTC) I was resisting getting into this fray, but when I read this... > > Why isn't anyone angry at the morons that took out loans they > knew they couldn't pay back? ....I finally had to speak out. This is the *same* line of finger- pointing *blame crap* that *all* of the Repugnican Reich wing neonconartist "fair and balanced" Faux Noise TV, and radio "talk" show blowhards and gas bags are now *repeating endlessly*, ad nauseam, and it makes me *sick* to hear it. Yeah. Like those "morons" who lost their long time / good paying jobs due to their jobs suddenly and without warning, either being *outsourced* to some other country, or due to the "brilliance" of some *way overpaid*, fat cat CEO who decided to downsize...oh excuse me... to "restructure" a company for only the purposes of increasing the profits of other fat cat stockholders, and then later even run the company into the ground, but *still* walk away with a *huge* severance package and a lifetime of other benefits. (Not to also forget the millions that were already sitting in his / her personal account, along with millions in stocks,etc) Or, the "morons" who suddenly, and without any kind of warning, came down with some *serious* or even life-threatening illness that put them out of work for a *long* time, and / or wiped them out financially, or that the same tragedy occurred to their spouse, or a member of their family like their *kid* or a *parent*,etc. Or, the "morons" who were first-time buyers and were maybe a bit "green" about going into a mortgage situation for the first time in their lives, (and just who is an "expert" in *everything* for the *first* time ever?) and were the victims of some aggressive, or slick, fast talking predatory lender, a predatory parasite whom they *trusted* to be "honest" and a "straight talker", and who was *ordered* by upper "management" to sell, sell sell, and to do *whatever it takes* to secure the deal... no matter what, including *lying* or some other deception. Or, the "morons" who were the targets and victims of the *sub-prime scandal*? (Remember that? Remember Countrywide?) And, there are other reasons why many "morons" simply got into trouble with something that could happen to just about anyone, but who originally *never plotted or planned* to do so. These same "blame the little guys and morons" loudmouths are very likely long time Rethuglicans who "conveniently" seem to "forget" that it was over 12 twelve years of *Rethuglican control* over (haha) "our" gov't that brought about all of the *deregulation* of the banking and other financial "services" industries that opened to these doors to being with, for what has led up to today. Let's just call the blame game it what it *is*. "Weapons of Mass Distraction" (and / or "Deception")_ And of course, in true Rethuglican neoconartist fashion, when the sh*it finally hits the fan, then they turn around and try to *blame* someone *else* for it. Same old crap from these vicious and greedy, self-centered rats, every damn time. Typical bullies who will gladly kick the little guy when he is down and attack any other more vulnerable and / or less defensible folks. Check history for more details. I also agree mostly with what this guy Jeff below is saying, except for one thing, and that is that for the greater part, no one was ever *forced* to accept *any* credit card offer, especially any additional ones, other than the first one they may have *had* to have gotten, for the simple fact that it is next-to-impossible to get by in our capitalist-dominated and "free" market country and globalization world without one anymore. But also, when some folks are *constantly* barraged with tempting card offers all of the time, and especially if they have been stuck in the lower spectrum of wage earners for all of their lives for *whatever* reasons, and reasons that may have been insurmountable or out of their immediate control up to this point, or also when they are *impressionable* and *inexperienced teenagers*, or certain other types of "easy targets", then it is sometimes hard to resist to finally succumbing to such offers, and many of those offers that usually also have some *very fine print* that should be noticed *closely*. Kick the Rethugs *out* of office (and send a bunch to *prison* too) and the watch how *fast* the nation (and the world) starts to turn around for the *better*, and then continues to improve, and also *never* allow the Rethugs to gain full power *ever* again. Again, just check US political history for the last 100 years or so, see what kind of "pattern" that ya may notice? When the 'thugs are in power, the economy eventually heads down the toilet, and ever larger deficits are left behind, and the country is left in a *huge mess* for the Dems to have to clean up, but not before a lot of Rethugs, and those masters who they serve, have *gotten away with* a *lot* of the *tax payers'* money. And when the 'thugs are in power, it is when *more wars* get started. Some of history is there to be *learned* from , and *not* repeated. Think about it... -Rev. Fever Portland,OR > That's a tough one. For one thing, a lot of people probably thought > they could pay back the loans--or at least hoped they could. When > they discovered (later) that their interest rate skyrocketed, then > they could no longer afford to pay. Second, I don't necessarily > blame the consumers--at least not all the time. It's pretty tough > to turn down the opportunity to buy a home (or take some other > large loan) if someone is going to offer you the money. I blame the > lenders, in other words. Another example: I have so many credit > cards (and I get solicitations every week for more) with a total > credit line of an obscene amount of money. Why in the world not > just one bank--but several--would extend me credit lines of 20K or > more, I have no idea. But they do. I could get in serious financial > trouble very easily. Would I be to blame, or do the banks bear some > responsibility as well? > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 20:30:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6BE73BE87; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20081005203010156.261547000082@mwinf2a11.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:30:09 +0200 References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:30:13 +0000 (UTC) I think you've just about got the voice over down for a serious looping performance. Hit those posts, Rev, and make it swing. trouble comin' everyday. throw in a little stutter with ca ca pi pi talism every so often On Oct 5, 2008, at 10:02 PM, Rev Fever wrote: > > I was resisting getting into this fray, but when I read this... > >> >> Why isn't anyone angry at the morons that took out loans they knew >> they couldn't pay back? > > ....I finally had to speak out. This is the *same* line of finger- > pointing *blame crap* that *all* of the Repugnican Reich wing > neonconartist "fair and balanced" > Faux Noise TV, and radio "talk" show blowhards and gas bags are now > *repeating endlessly*, ad nauseam, and it makes me *sick* to hear it. > > Yeah. Like those "morons" who lost their long time / good paying > jobs due to their jobs suddenly and without warning, either being > *outsourced* to some other country, or due to the "brilliance" of > some *way overpaid*, fat cat CEO who decided to downsize...oh excuse > me... to "restructure" a company for only the purposes of increasing > the profits of other fat cat stockholders, and then later even run > the company into the ground, but *still* walk away with a *huge* > severance package and a lifetime of other benefits. (Not to also > forget the millions that were already sitting in his / her personal > account, along with millions in stocks,etc) > > Or, the "morons" who suddenly, and without any kind of warning, came > down with some *serious* or even life-threatening illness that put > them out of work for a *long* time, and / or wiped them out > financially, or that the same tragedy occurred to their spouse, or a > member of their family like their *kid* or a *parent*,etc. > > Or, the "morons" who were first-time buyers and were maybe a bit > "green" about going into a mortgage situation for the first time in > their lives, > (and just who is an "expert" in *everything* for the *first* time > ever?) and were the victims of some aggressive, or slick, fast > talking predatory lender, a predatory parasite whom they *trusted* > to be "honest" and a "straight talker", and who was *ordered* by > upper "management" to sell, sell sell, and to do *whatever it takes* > to secure the deal... no matter what, including *lying* or some > other deception. > > Or, the "morons" who were the targets and victims of the *sub-prime > scandal*? (Remember that? Remember Countrywide?) > > And, there are other reasons why many "morons" simply got into > trouble with something that could happen to just about anyone, > but who originally *never plotted or planned* to do so. > > These same "blame the little guys and morons" loudmouths are very > likely long time Rethuglicans who "conveniently" seem to "forget" > that it was over 12 twelve years of *Rethuglican control* over > (haha) "our" gov't that brought about all of the *deregulation* of > the banking and other financial "services" industries that opened to > these doors to being with, for what has led up to today. Let's just > call the blame game it what it *is*. "Weapons of Mass > Distraction" (and / or "Deception")_ > > And of course, in true Rethuglican neoconartist fashion, when the > sh*it finally hits the fan, then they turn around and try to *blame* > someone *else* for it. Same old crap from these vicious and greedy, > self-centered rats, every damn time. Typical bullies who will gladly > kick the little guy when he is down and attack any other more > vulnerable and / or less defensible folks. Check history for more > details. > > I also agree mostly with what this guy Jeff below is saying, except > for one thing, and that is that for the greater part, no one was > ever *forced* to accept *any* credit card offer, especially any > additional ones, other than the first one they may have *had* to > have gotten, for the simple fact that it is next-to-impossible to > get by in our capitalist-dominated and "free" market country and > globalization world without one anymore. But also, when some folks > are *constantly* barraged with tempting card offers all of the time, > and especially if they have been stuck in the lower spectrum of wage > earners for all of their lives for *whatever* reasons, and reasons > that may have been insurmountable or out of their immediate control > up to this point, or also when they are *impressionable* and > *inexperienced teenagers*, or certain other types of "easy > targets", then it is sometimes hard to resist to finally succumbing > to such offers, and many of those offers that usually also have some > *very fine print* that should be noticed *closely*. > > Kick the Rethugs *out* of office (and send a bunch to *prison* too) > and the watch how *fast* the nation (and the world) starts to turn > around for the *better*, > and then continues to improve, and also *never* allow the Rethugs to > gain full power *ever* again. Again, just check US political history > for the last 100 years or so, see what kind of "pattern" that ya may > notice? When the 'thugs are in power, the economy eventually heads > down the toilet, and ever larger deficits are left behind, > and the country is left in a *huge mess* for the Dems to have to > clean up, but not before a lot of Rethugs, and those masters who > they serve, have *gotten away with* a *lot* of the *tax payers'* > money. > > And when the 'thugs are in power, it is when *more wars* get > started. Some of history is there to be *learned* from , and *not* > repeated. Think about it... > > -Rev. Fever > Portland,OR > >> That's a tough one. For one thing, a lot of people probably thought >> they could pay back the loans--or at least hoped they could. When >> they discovered (later) that their interest rate skyrocketed, then >> they could no longer afford to pay. Second, I don't necessarily >> blame the consumers--at least not all the time. It's pretty tough >> to turn down the opportunity to buy a home (or take some other >> large loan) if someone is going to offer you the money. I blame the >> lenders, in other words. Another example: I have so many credit >> cards (and I get solicitations every week for more) with a total >> credit line of an obscene amount of money. Why in the world not >> just one bank--but several--would extend me credit lines of 20K or >> more, I have no idea. But they do. I could get in serious financial >> trouble very easily. Would I be to blame, or do the banks bear some >> responsibility as well? >> >> Jeff >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 20:37:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6196A3BE81; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:37:55 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AN ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES THAT MENTIONS LOOPING (AT LEAST BRIEFLY) References: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:37:58 +0000 (UTC) thanks for posting this, Ted. I know I'm happy to grow up at a time where it's become more common for people to be active in different genres. I take a lot of inspiration from people like Nels Cline and Mike Patton, who do everything from pop/rock to out improv, and have it all stand up as good music. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > At 28, Mr. Burhans has pursued a career path so logical that it seems > almost foolproof. Just sing, compose and master several instruments > (besides the violin he plays viola, guitar, bass, keyboards and > percussion) and the New York freelance world is your oyster. But this > is a new development. Until recently, the conventional wisdom went, > musicians with diverse talents should specialize: decide whether they > are better suited to composing or performing, singing or playing an > instrument, working in classical music or a variety of pop. > > And while most young musicians still make the traditional choices and > scramble to find work in freelance ensembles until they have > established themselves as recitalists or chamber players, others are > seeking to diversify. Mr. Burhans’s generation is the third to come of > age during the rock era, and where conservatories once taught only > classical music, most now offer courses and even degrees in jazz and > rock, recording technology and the music industry itself. And > musicians who grew up hearing everything from Mozart and Ligeti to > Wilco and Radiohead are less inclined than their elders to > compartmentalize their passions. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 21:01:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A94183BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:01:28 UTC Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:41:16 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: <2mdje.A.WBC.osS6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:01:28 +0000 (UTC) I guess my joke "I decided to infiltrate a meeting of 'Improvising Artists for McCain', but I was the only one there" is not completely accurate." At 11:24 AM -0700 10/5/08, David Gans wrote: >At 11:06 AM +0100 10/5/08, SP Goodman wrote: >>Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting >>spittle over and over again, given the shallow talent pool >>Democrats have displayed lately. > >Oy vey. You must be one of those "low-information voters" the >Republicans rely on. > > > > >-- > >David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 >Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >Web site: http://www.dgans.com >Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans >Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 21:02:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B24C03BE81; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E92B66.5050405@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:02:30 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Jean Michel Jarre References: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:02:32 +0000 (UTC) I enjoyed watching this vid of Jean Michel Jarre walk through his roomful (no lie) of vintage key equipment. Note the Loopstation sitting on the two-manual keyboard (Eminence?). Nice to see the inside of the Mellotron too, and his explanation of the 7-second loop. I love those sounds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_E8aGx777Q Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 21:19:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0BD33BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hE9q57mky+lTz4pG75DqJ+b+rS39cYSXPXCiycIj4qU=; b=R8Akh0g3xKb28TlYNZgxCPflALsrwVOCCBky6/gIyqXd1Uaqwe15DX9ci96nXWj2HT 2pi0Ax5lYXyqieZRYl+N5o5cMey8ZlcyyPdHvOW8AaOYt07ymHTAHu1alPD+pt8TyLhv MB+lmScZX6Aq+X23bITi5MDf0RhJgiH2NaVDU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=WVDQcoRxODkSPk0fQ1kK8VEFuWEbAuRFv6zaiTPdvFljtrcqNzlAmQWTW0Q/Cm2EbU 2LFbEVDbYg8EsihT8pcS8CoKLx9gTp0sAIegx+uuq97Po8AdvT/HLHuImR+PM1g0Bu0o vQe3gV4Te1pcFHy5Q5EqATbeBCMuCOo9J4+Jc= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810051419l3ba18f23x88257889a457e99b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:19:30 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jean Michel Jarre In-Reply-To: <48E92B66.5050405@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> <48E92B66.5050405@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:19:31 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I enjoyed watching this vid of Jean Michel Jarre walk through his roomful > (no lie) of vintage key equipment. Note the Loopstation sitting on the > two-manual keyboard (Eminence?). Nice to see the inside of the Mellotron > too, and his explanation of the 7-second loop. I love those sounds. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_E8aGx777Q Yeah - nice to see a non-laptop guy coming out like that! ;-) Awesome! Love his sounds! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 21:48:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21C3C3BE87; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vuWF1pNruLi/6Gcj68CexzvNojclZiy3sHO75Pz2OsI=; b=CgGDhSKtOk1JGzK1SsM/RAWTWfrmeUZm/PsLDTZG0Fy6jlTivjsW8ECSvPrhhbZMw+ hZKnZcKX+vE3Bfg/nCLJdHI5uBCCCCfHhCMZTiNDYEsc1JjgFdEZlJ9u79G5S5P1H5dm mrr1YyO9BbwSQxavU91kJZNUgRlj+E3g8H+Ng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wBwKRJ4v8rLcVaFQ2nSNcb4nEZi0LHETJxFMgtfiubSAZ9XcW5KrPrZ83/rpXED1Oo yK5xjlMtTHqqxEROBBwmWaieBax4zGYYvQ33KKGPZP6bYKsTv3BX+3hHRtJ44QthVwAm vZeaN8h5NH8SKn7gEZpZqR0WTd7D+3sev1w7U= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:48:00 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> Resent-Message-ID: <3loRG.A.CeE.RYT6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:48:02 +0000 (UTC) A small chime in from down here in sunny South Africa....Every time this list has gone off topic it has drawn my interest and awakened me to new concerns other than that of looping and music. I appreciate my education that i have had since joining this list on looping matters, I am only more gratefull to get keyed into my fellow loopers other concerns, and the insights that they have to share. Thankyou On 10/5/08, Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) wrote: > I guess my joke > > "I decided to infiltrate a meeting of 'Improvising Artists for McCain', but > I was the only one there" is not completely accurate." > > > At 11:24 AM -0700 10/5/08, David Gans wrote: > > > At 11:06 AM +0100 10/5/08, SP Goodman wrote: > > > > > Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting spittle > over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats have displayed > lately. > > > > > > > Oy vey. You must be one of those "low-information voters" the Republicans > rely on. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > > Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com > > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans > > Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans > > > > > -- > > "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed > ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to > function." > > F. Scott Fitzgerald > > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > > My photography can be viewed at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 21:57:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5A833BE84; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OtgNnh3KI8eBfbNdwCnKTWXCuzeinM+ujnSGXF9b0x0=; b=m+Ur1FjFTU2CadKCYf1Dz0sjUM6adtpuGVaXDtS6TH9loHvuFTitI3VS9J2ZygMoku abygiXyx6AMPFT7Y0aBMGSRsPSJs8VuAuzZbkPjiauODSv7k431mHKUQwsmRUzBLe+2z wc0xkLDjuXAfQnE9UCj2i22osfNA4LbPYtOx4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=li693mv4iKEAN6mgqQfB1TzE067n8Oz6qXAAq5Olf9AtOrq2RG5EJ2YIu3FGEDMP2e Em46GhnzvjlY3VVMG564FGdBmoCFo/Jfk1yW6vEbKp7GrwlaYd2q+PDM+1f9yrUUnEG9 5NqOw3HKdyzcHwy/77JOv3dsv9AgGgTL5XKWU= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:51:51 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 21:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Great On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com > > hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our brains > out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love to > hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always > made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but i > must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think that > was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i enjoy > the debate.....m > > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, > Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 22:00:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 851593BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:To:Message-Id:Content-Type:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer; b=KOd1apamDdrMwA5AlDq0GY7AS1L8ox3sUUc+M4s3aCZXOfj/To1YUmp0HhdA3IFMQ8zsWfPPmIClvtSwXNaqhgnEYI0K64ZjnXpLf1NMoFY9ap//ZeDWJfVvpf8IPPQzPTn3o0NvLpQDezbsbH3WN7FdjW0HWJDY+Wzb1NoyU20= ; X-YMail-OSG: 3MXTfEAVM1k0rTTsgXEauADbB8iNriyCmjVI3615J58lOXgJf1cWdegPV.MM6_phYk5_J9BCbhN_Wvm8ydn6M9MxBsO6BtV1mDh0rd1QLgGBzb5NIFcMxMGe7gBGUuImDmsZzOj05MIQQcZy2epIfWEl X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-123689447 From: Matt Stevens Subject: EDP action Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:00:25 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-123689447 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=N7OtIY6p6So Hey guys This is me with an echoplex a kaossilator, whammy pedal and a dl4. 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Thanks

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= --Apple-Mail-1-123689447-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 22:28:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE10A3BE84; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:28:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=iHKSOGySWWXv6oUfOi2ZZhCxFGuF5y+qUEJJsoicrMM=; b=G2JR5O4nclYgaLOfjJPzdjA4t5796mW3YM3dpeptDx2X3KYaZCxB7OcQMZ6qNEiURB 0uxiyf8qg0E/ibvvMrLTreIvocYqYd+Gj/sfmi4S8tyihp07K5bEwxt3MYmot8yT6NaC Uvsb9QgIvNBKuE6mY2PqaEPbmiqTrFzhiV8t4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qx3ob5HJyTJ1ln6eIkKaR/BDg5d841J5mRN+W9Fx1abHlrHj82B/QygggZ7+rTnw7t LSILPEhUgL7w1skamjLowd9MsAAYBkIWJnXe9c1W9GWhQ2oJRIiOwoAR3ia5oSWa+SAR OQeu6Z8r+76wwXGXCDLrJWAjUbn9SGPg9ygV4= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:28:49 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jean Michel Jarre In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810051419l3ba18f23x88257889a457e99b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21798_2458445.1223245729146" References: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> <48E92B66.5050405@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0810051419l3ba18f23x88257889a457e99b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:28:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21798_2458445.1223245729146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Is that a *light* dimmer switch he's using around 4:15 for his volume swells? On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > I enjoyed watching this vid of Jean Michel Jarre walk through his roomful > > (no lie) of vintage key equipment. Note the Loopstation sitting on the > > two-manual keyboard (Eminence?). Nice to see the inside of the Mellotron > > too, and his explanation of the 7-second loop. I love those sounds. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_E8aGx777Q > > > ------=_Part_21798_2458445.1223245729146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Is that a *light* dimmer switch he's using around 4:15 for his volume swells?

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
> I enjoyed watching this vid of Jean Michel Jarre walk through his roomful
> (no lie) of vintage key equipment. Note the Loopstation sitting on the
> two-manual keyboard (Eminence?). Nice to see the inside of the Mellotron
> too, and his explanation of the 7-second loop. I love those sounds.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_E8aGx777Q



------=_Part_21798_2458445.1223245729146-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 22:39:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4BBE3BE84; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=79w9tQ5WVNQT46GG/uq8t9qLXOhx4lpLSkNhqHduFjA=; b=EnSgSe8C8gUR2dr9jQ3Nj+mBYjsi4FwFeMr8j8sWsl0NMSBC0Cy5bXhgDU7dmEJtEZ sL1zMque0JKqa/HJPVTPAjtc04VkfkdLhyE/VqMnOysb72A2OoU8ELFNlQ7UQQwekD33 neint4cOFrVhE4/hRXhsjVhFMY901mph69fdI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=UP+ewD6RXOuL17nKiJQzqebOHTbjpme/w6EARwF+0D3zowgDVUTHd5n8pa4XEp0y7P ZUto5RIaMUteQBPZ2ALjYqmJNdHNv8XqWpWCmS/JDt5gXtXbrLQAroql/Can/pjtpQvf NxFEXrexmcFee5Kti4RD9HAPDtcowesg9+/rc= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:39:23 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29859_11984956.1223246363182" References: Resent-Message-ID: <8K5JgD.A.5DB.cIU6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:39:24 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29859_11984956.1223246363182 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Great idea Michael I'll try to be mindful of this as I've donee a fair amt of OT. Is this for all OT or just polictical OT? On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell wrote: > Great > > On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com > > > > hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our brains > > out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love > to > > hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always > > made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but > i > > must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think > that > > was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i > enjoy > > the debate.....m > > > > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA > > > > new groovy tunes at: > > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ************** > > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, > > Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_29859_11984956.1223246363182 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Great idea Michael I'll try to  be mindful of this as I've donee a fair amt of OT.  Is this for all OT or just polictical OT?

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote:
Great

On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
> loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com
>
>  hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our brains
> out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love to
> hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always
> made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but i
> must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think that
> was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i enjoy
> the debate.....m
>
>  "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA
>
>  new groovy tunes at:
>  http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
>  www.ct-collective.com
>
>
>
>
>
> **************
> New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining,
> Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!
>  (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_29859_11984956.1223246363182-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 22:42:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF3D03BE81; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TIYmUOHlF40I8QuFwiJhkmYRHpHxRQlprM2h6rOOV3Q=; b=Zn+Fvdu0CBc6ghIe3TSTnVBdJSJnkRq88ZB4paC9ifquMe3tYluuIUXdfP2okONBHe DMfs0T01eqa17rAS9GFx2NjXqpxNYL6hrMVv6K6SREf71C+DpJO44eG3RS69GGOzU+nd Tw22Wi5lDYruxvgMmyQe+TD2RJ/OCvxS+XE8g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FsAgZf4B4gOZ22KW0TpUQz9qy92vFHsRtOTVqgGStYdYymxaFGU+GA9PCbNee+jzZZ 8jKoLbkQM4uKBkZkIVX+PSTZdqDmRYFFjez+/2eXyhm1NOCxS3lFFMfgQG2FPbzQNqcJ JuPHX543CCjVFq4cnsuxUR50TxUq5LCFheOxc= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810051542x387254ag92de0ee310b15d9c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:42:33 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29866_7551048.1223246554018" References: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-FZktB.A.6RB.bLU6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:42:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29866_7551048.1223246554018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline While on this note as I know there has been some suggest during my time with LD that a forum bulletin board kind of thing would be more useful to members than mailing list. I'm a member of the Unfretted.comforum for the fretless guitar community and it's total forum. Though I like the community feel of the email list frankly, I do think this forum mode works pretty well. So just a thought. Jim On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Great idea Michael I'll try to be mindful of this as I've donee a fair amt > of OT. Is this for all OT or just polictical OT? > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell wrote: > >> Great >> >> On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> > loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com >> > >> > hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our >> brains >> > out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love >> to >> > hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always >> > made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but >> i >> > must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think >> that >> > was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i >> enjoy >> > the debate.....m >> > >> > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA >> > >> > new groovy tunes at: >> > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 >> > www.ct-collective.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ************** >> > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, >> > Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! >> > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_29866_7551048.1223246554018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
While on this note as I know there has been some suggest during my time with LD that a forum bulletin board kind of thing would be more useful to members than mailing list.  I'm a member of the Unfretted.com forum for the fretless guitar community and it's total forum.  Though I  like the community feel of the email list frankly, I do think this forum mode works pretty well.  So just a thought.
 
Jim

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Great idea Michael I'll try to  be mindful of this as I've donee a fair amt of OT.  Is this for all OT or just polictical OT?


On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote:
Great

On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
> loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com
>
>  hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our brains
> out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love to
> hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always
> made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but i
> must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think that
> was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i enjoy
> the debate.....m
>
>  "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA
>
>  new groovy tunes at:
>  http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
>  www.ct-collective.com
>
>
>
>
>
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------=_Part_29866_7551048.1223246554018-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 22:46:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 383703BE7E; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <0080a26b40ec6a931947af6e970ff773@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: EDP action Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:46:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, I don't know what sort of "feedback" you were after . . . but I gave it=20= a listen . . . and liked what I heard. What more can I say? Nice use of the Whammy pedal. It's difficult to determine what the Kaossilator was providing exactly. I've been wondering how one would use it ever since they came on the=20 market. What part did it contribute? Best regards, Ted Killian "I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that=20 dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might=20 actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times On Oct 5, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DN7OtIY6p6So > > Hey guys=A0 > > This is me with an echoplex a kaossilator, whammy pedal and a dl4. > > Can I get some feedback - I don't normally post electric guitar music. > > Thanks > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com > mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 22:54:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8D9D3BE84; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:54:07 EDT Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cf7.40d551d0.361a9f8f_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <7xCSeB.A.v-B.TWU6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:54:11 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cf7.40d551d0.361a9f8f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/08 6:39:39 PM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes: > Is this for all OT or just polictical OT? > i don't think there are any rules at OTlandia!.....ratpublicans are even welcome! "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) --part1_cf7.40d551d0.361a9f8f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/5/08 6:39:39 PM, jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com writes:


Is this for all OT or= just polictical OT?


i don't think there are any rules at OTlandia!.....ratpublicans are even=20= welcome!



"AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA

new groovy tunes at:
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www.ct-collective.com





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(http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000001) --part1_cf7.40d551d0.361a9f8f_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 22:54:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6EB93BE78; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=cHhnj7SROPjRmpcCLfaL4Nr9G28wxEC+BNpO/tPUSxQ6V/2Tw8NZm5V/8IHQ9czCnqb/mZyNQM+2HgebG5IHMq6ncKpf2tx/TSKqLSYx+iSsMYd5c/844KBm0DsOwP0GibB6XcX3ZxZ1r1N+aavmw49jUrLwn7OWFXtjWqoySLc= ; X-YMail-OSG: T7gADHgVM1kcKxoRB1yWpkjBhIi3fy_kb93Gb4hA61QROhLwYrHSChFb1GG3iMn3YP6jTtdhA3XCy8iyeQ0LgZzcz9BDHwxugs.kt6frGyRAakftiCjzGd2ng9vXWuU2RN2Snfu45BR6cqzvs4ePUpTG X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <0080a26b40ec6a931947af6e970ff773@charter.net> References: <0080a26b40ec6a931947af6e970ff773@charter.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-126929122 Message-Id: <0754FF26-F4B0-4133-A9EE-6EEA2EA23142@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: EDP action Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:54:24 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:54:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-126929122 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thanks Ted - I used the Kaossilator for the drum hits and some =20 Radiophonic Worshop synth sounds. Thanks again Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com On 5 Oct 2008, at 23:46, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Hi there, > > I don't know what sort of "feedback" you were after . . . but I =20 > gave it a listen . . . and liked what I heard. > > What more can I say? > > Nice use of the Whammy pedal. > > It's difficult to determine what the Kaossilator was providing =20 > exactly. > > I've been wondering how one would use it ever since they came on =20 > the market. > > What part did it contribute? > > Best regards, > > Ted Killian > > "I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that =20= > dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it =20 > might actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > >> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DN7OtIY6p6So >> >> Hey guys >> >> This is me with an echoplex a kaossilator, whammy pedal and a dl4. >> >> Can I get some feedback - I don't normally post electric guitar =20 >> music. >> >> Thanks >> >> Matt Stevens >> www.mattstevensguitar.com >> mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com >> >> >> >> > --Apple-Mail-2-126929122 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Thanks Ted - I used the Kaossilator for the drum hits and some = Radiophonic Worshop synth sounds.

Thanks = again

Matt = Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com




On 5 Oct 2008, = at 23:46, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

Hi there,

I don't know what sort of = "feedback" you were after . . . but I gave it a listen . . . and liked = what I heard.

What more can I say?

Nice use of = the Whammy pedal.

It's difficult to determine what the Kaossilator was = providing exactly.
I've been wondering how one = would use it ever since they came on the market.

What = part did it contribute?

Best regards,

Ted = Killian

"I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time = in my life, that dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but = that it might actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York = Times

On Oct 5, 2008, at 3:00 PM, Matt Stevens = wrote:

=

Hey guys=A0

This is = me with an echoplex a kaossilator, whammy pedal and a dl4.

Can I = get some feedback - I don't normally post electric guitar = music.

Thanks

Matt Stevens
www.mattstevensguitar.com






= --Apple-Mail-2-126929122-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 23:01:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B84893BE87; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 19:01:12 EDT Subject: Re: EDP action To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c02.468fbcd8.361aa138_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:01:20 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c02.468fbcd8.361aa138_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matt.....i really enjoyed the tune.....many nice sounds......i found the "verbals" a bit distracting though......also, it was another "boy i wish i could see how he is doing that" type of tune.....you were using "tools' that i do not know how they work or what sounds they produce or warp.....please post more "electric" music, most enjoyable.....michael "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) --part1_c02.468fbcd8.361aa138_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable matt.....i really enjoyed the tune.....= many nice sounds......i found the "verbals" a bit distracting though......al= so, it was another "boy i wish i could see how he is doing that" type of tun= e.....you were using "tools' that i do not know how they work or what sounds= they produce or warp.....please post more "electric" music, most enjoyable.= ....michael

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(http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000001) --part1_c02.468fbcd8.361aa138_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 5 23:43:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DC9C3BE87; Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:43:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-129898256 Message-Id: <39689B59-C80F-4DF4-A069-463E09E6540A@drumtalk.com> From: George Grant Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:43:54 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:43:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-129898256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Well since we all want to discuss it, it is probably more important than looping anyway. Everybody should be outraged by our entire Congress -- DEMs and REPs. I promise you all -- I will NOT vote for ANYBODY who voted for the Bank Fraud Reward Bill, including Barrack Obama John McCain Rep. Mike Simpson of ID To those of you who do, -- you are "enablers" -- no better than those career politicians who continue to sell the USA down the river, and continue to get reelected. No excuses. No party politics and finger pointing. WAKE UP PEOPLE The Republicrat-Demican game is just a distraction by professional con artists. They depend on you to choose and defend "home teams" like the Super Bowl. George On Oct 5, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Bill Fox wrote: > Well then, it must be a tape-based looping system and someone's > spliced the tape! And the playback head needs to be cleaned and > degaussed big time! ;-) > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Dave wrote: >> 4 years? I'll bet it's more like 2.5?... >> >> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Bill Fox > > wrote: >> >> George Grant wrote: >> >> Er ... and uh .... >> this relates to looping ... >> ... how so? >> >> This relates to looping by virtue of the fact that we'll be doing >> this all again in four years. Only the loop degrades over that >> long of a period. Memory limitations require extreme compression >> in and expansion out causing certain distortions (of facts). >> Therefore, the names will change to protect the (not so) >> innocent. ;-) >> >> > > --Apple-Mail-5-129898256 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Well since we all want to discuss it,
it is probably more = important than looping anyway.
Everybody should be outraged by = our entire Congress -- DEMs and REPs.

I promise = you all -- I will=A0NOT=A0vote
for ANYBODY who voted = for the
Bank Fraud Reward Bill, = including

Barrack = Obama
John McCain
= Rep. Mike Simpson of ID

To = those of you who do,
-- you are "enablers" -- no better than = those
career politicians who continue to sell the USA down the = river,
and continue to get = reelected.

No excuses.
No party = politics and finger pointing.

WAKE UP = PEOPLE=A0
The Republicrat-Demican game is just a = distraction
by professional con artists. =A0
They = depend on you to choose and defend "home teams"
like the Super = Bowl.

George


<= div>
On Oct 5, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Bill Fox = wrote:

Well then, it must be a = tape-based looping system and someone's spliced the tape!=A0 And the playback head needs = to be cleaned and degaussed big time! =A0 ;-)


Bill

Dave wrote:
4 years? I'll bet it's more like = 2.5?...

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Bill Fox = <billyfox@soundscapes.us <mailto:billyfox@soundscapes.us= >> wrote:

=A0 =A0 = George Grant wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Er ... and uh = ....
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 this relates to = looping ...
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ... how = so?

=A0 =A0 = This relates to looping by virtue of the fact that we'll be = doing
=A0 =A0 this all again in four = years.=A0 Only the loop = degrades over that
=A0 =A0 long of a period.=A0 Memory limitations require = extreme compression
=A0 =A0 in and expansion out = causing certain distortions (of facts).
=A0=A0 =A0 Therefore, the names = will change to protect the (not so)
=A0 =A0 innocent. =A0 =A0 ;-)





= --Apple-Mail-5-129898256-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 00:06:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F14C13BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:06:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:06:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:06:45 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" To: Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:24 PM Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. > At 11:06 AM +0100 10/5/08, SP Goodman wrote: >>Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting >>spittle over and over again, given the shallow talent pool Democrats >>have displayed lately. > > Oy vey. You must be one of those "low-information voters" the > Republicans rely on. Yes, I must be wrong! I disagree with the Left! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 00:29:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC7383BE84; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:29:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:17:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:29:15 +0000 (UTC) At 1:06 AM +0100 10/6/08, SP Goodman wrote: >>Oy vey. You must be one of those "low-information voters" the >>Republicans rely on. > >Yes, I must be wrong! I disagree with the Left! Those two don't necessarily follow, but both seem to be true in your case. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 00:30:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82EC53BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E95C07.4040609@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:29:59 -0500 From: Daryl User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: tour planning References: <000901c925c0$324f5be0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <958694.58035.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60810051243h4db50c6cu19d7d980543785b9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60810051243h4db50c6cu19d7d980543785b9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7Dv4L.A.LNF.UwV6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:30:12 +0000 (UTC) hey Jim, really nice playing again last night. I LOVED when you kicked in the reverse, about 28 minutes in. Lots of other good stuff too. I'm trying to figure out my schedule for the tour. What time does your plane come in on Thursday the 16th? I'll pick you up, then if time permits I could take you to Jeff's to get settled, and then we could get some dinner before heading to Echo Curio. I can drive you back to Jeff's that night then before I head down to Long Beach. Friday's a bit complicated, as I may want to go out to my friend Andy's place in Indio (in the desert an hour east of Riverside) to pick up the speaker for my PA. I'm going to try to borrow a speaker up in SF so we don't need to do this, but if I can't then we'll need to get it to use in Lodi. So I'm thinking maybe I can come pick you up in the morning, we can do lunch in Hollywood or something, then drive way out to the desert and then back to Riverside for our gig. If we don't need to go to Indio, I'll probably hang out in Long Beach with my friend then can pick you up maybe 4:00 in the afternoon. That night then we'll both stay with Jeff and leave early in the morning. Saturday we'll spend the day in Lodi. That evening I'm either going to go to Santa Cruz for the fest, or to Oakland to see a friend of mine in a play. I imagine you'll want to take advantage of some more time with Layne. I'll probably stay in San Francisco that night. Then on Sunday, if I didn't see the play Saturday night, I'd like to see it in the afternoon. It'll finish up around 4:30, and then it's about an hour drive down to Santa Cruz, which would get us there in plenty of time for our 8:00 spot. I wouldn't have time to come all the way up to Lodi, though. So if you could find a way to get to Oakland, that'd be one possibility (you take BART from Pittsburg, about an hour from Lodi). The other would be for you to keep the car on Saturday night, if I decide not to go to Santa Cruz. In that case, I'd just need you to give me a ride from Lodi to Pittsburg on Saturday after we're done playing. Then on Sunday you could just pick me up on the way down to Santa Cruz. Sunday-Monday is the tough part. I'd really like to stay a little while after our performance, at least to see Kevin Kissinger who goes on at 10 p.m. I'd also like to attend the brunch on Monday. I know you want Monday to spend with Layne, so I'm trying to figure out how best to work this. I can crash in Santa Cruz on Sunday night, I think, and I can take an Amtrak train to Sacramento which gets me there at 7:40 Monday night. That's a little tight before our 8:30 gig, but I think it can work. You fly out Monday night, correct? Or did you get a Tuesday flight? I'll try to figure out what I want to do that Saturday night soon. I know this is a lot to plan! let me know what time you get in and fly out, and any thoughts on the other stuff. d From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 00:32:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B0BD3BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E95C8C.8040802@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:32:12 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: tour planning References: <000901c925c0$324f5be0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <958694.58035.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60810051243h4db50c6cu19d7d980543785b9@mail.gmail.com> <48E95C07.4040609@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <48E95C07.4040609@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:32:25 +0000 (UTC) oh Jeez!!!! Ignore that! crap crap crap...twice in a month... red-faced.. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 00:52:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B09F73BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <8A412832-CB68-42D0-A3F3-490745051A80@glasswing.com> From: RICHARD SALES To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. X-Priority: 3 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:19:59 -0700 References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <7C45872E-3791-48BE-B276-B523193216A0@drumtalk.com> <6D0439C216704B18AE64C1049EF78C63@eluk1> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: <_upyxD.A.i7F.TFW6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Oooh! I love a fight r sales On Oct 5, 2008, at 5:06 PM, SP Goodman wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 7:24 PM > Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. > > >> At 11:06 AM +0100 10/5/08, SP Goodman wrote: >>> Only in the sense that some folks in the Left can't stop venting >>> spittle over and over again, given the shallow talent pool >>> Democrats have displayed lately. >> Oy vey. You must be one of those "low-information voters" the >> Republicans rely on. > > Yes, I must be wrong! I disagree with the Left! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 01:02:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 266DC3BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:02:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810051419l3ba18f23x88257889a457e99b@mail.gmail.com> References: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> <48E92B66.5050405@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0810051419l3ba18f23x88257889a457e99b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <657EA793-3A0D-4A3C-95DD-6679EE3720AF@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Jean Michel Jarre (Houston, 1986) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:00:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY, WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:02:13 +0000 (UTC) As a LONG time fan of JMJ, I was very fortunate to have been at the huge outdoor show he performed as his *only* USA show ever, and in (literally) downtown Houston,TX. on April 5th, 1986. ALL of the downtown area of Houston was used as his "backdrop" for image projections, large skyscrapers constantly changing colors, fireworks, and more, and starting from near the large, multi-tiered stage, there had been *large stacks of PAs* set up every 1/4 mile or so, extending all the way to near the Southwest Freeway! The show was also broadcast on the local radio stations and also, via satellite, broadcast to many radio stations around the world! Truly a "global" experience! There may(?) have been some television transmissions as well to other parts of the world, but I cannot confirm that at the moment. A truly *mind blowing* experience for me and millions of others. Too many details to go into about, and much of the history can easily be found on the web, but it was one ofthe *most memorable* experiences of my Life, and one that still resonates with me today. Of course, he later went on through the many following years to perform even bigger and more elaborate outdoor shows, mostly in Europe, and with the largest so far in St. Petersburg, Russia (6 million people!) but at the time, this one in Houston, and the sheer *size* of it etc was something mostly unheard of, and a *real* stunner, especially for the type and caliber of music he was know for back then, and still is today. Also, JMJ was and still is a big fan of NASA, which is why Houston was chosen, and he was also close friends with Ron McNair, one of the astronauts who tragically died when the Challenger space shuttle blew up, and in January of 1986, just a small few months *before*JMJ's big show there. Originally, McNair, who was also a sax player, was going to perform the *first* ever sax *solo*, via radio transmission from *outer space* for the April 5th concert! No kidding. JMJ had already written the song especially for Ron, and they had planned it out, and then the horrible tragedy happened before it was performed. Truly sad. I am also happy to say that JMJ and I still have a "common connection" between us, since we both still own and use the very *wonderful* ARP 2600 synth! :-) All the best, -Rev.Fever On Oct 5, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:02 PM, Daryl Shawn > wrote: >> I enjoyed watching this vid of Jean Michel Jarre walk through his >> roomful >> (no lie) of vintage key equipment. Note the Loopstation sitting on >> the >> two-manual keyboard (Eminence?). Nice to see the inside of the >> Mellotron >> too, and his explanation of the 7-second loop. I love those sounds. >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_E8aGx777Q > > > Yeah - nice to see a non-laptop guy coming out like that! ;-) > Awesome! Love his sounds! > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 01:16:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 430443BE80; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:16:34 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:16:41 +0000 (UTC) [Larson] > Why isn't anyone angry at the morons that took out loans they knew > they couldn't pay back? [Rev] > ....I finally had to speak out. This is the *same* line of > finger-pointing *blame crap* that *all* of the Repugnican Reich wing > neonconartist "fair and balanced" Faux Noise TV, and radio "talk" show > blowhards and gas bags are now *repeating endlessly*, ad nauseam, and > it makes me *sick* to hear it. No, they're all blaming Barney Frank now. Haven't you been watching Fox News :-) If I remember correctly, my original response was to someone engaging in "finger-pointing *blame crap*" with the Bush administration and I'm pretty sure he wasn't a Repugnican. If you take the time to actually read the FactCheck.org article I referenced, the point is that there is a lot of blame to go around at more levels than just congress, banks, and all those people who were forced to buy homes. So I'm glad we agree that finger pointing isn't very helpful. > Yeah. Like those "morons" who lost their long time / good paying jobs > ... > Or, the "morons" who suddenly, and without any kind of warning, came down > with some *serious* or even life-threatening illness Neither of which has anything to do with the sub-prime crisis we've been discussing. > Or, the "morons" who were the targets and victims of the *sub- prime scandal*? Now you've found it! While we're being empathetic, let's not forgot all those poor California yuppies, unable to flip their 1000 square foot 2 million dollar homes before their balloon payments came due. Since that's pretty close to my demographic, I thank you for your concern. > These same "blame the little guys and morons" loudmouths are very likely long > time Rethuglicans No. > who "conveniently" seem to "forget" that it was over 12 twelve years > of *Rethuglican control*... The inconvenient truth is that the economy is a lot more complicated than most people believe. Since I know many of you are simply too busy to read an article that might challenge your beliefs, here's an excerpt that says it better than I can: The U.S. economy is enormously complicated. Screwing it up takes a great deal of cooperation. Claiming that a single piece of legislation was responsible for (or could have averted) the crisis is just political grandstanding. We have no advice to offer on how best to solve the financial crisis. But these sorts of partisan caricatures can only make the task more difficult. > Check history for more details. Always wise advice. > Kick the Rethugs *out* of office (and send a bunch to *prison* too) > and the watch how *fast* the nation (and the world) starts to turn > around for the *better*, and then continues to improve To get elected, Obama is going to need the support of a large number of independent swing voters in key states. Incendiary rhetoric on blogs (and mailing lists) is something the right loves to trot out as examples of "left wing lunacy", which like it or not resonates with a lot of independents. Obama would be well served if passionate debaters on the left would frame their arguments in a more diplomatic, informed, and dare I say it, adult fashion. This will be my last post on the subject on LD, I think we've overstayed our welcome. But I'm also on loopers-delight-off-topic in case anyone feels like baiting me over there :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 01:29:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8EEE3BE7E; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E969E3.4060507@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:29:07 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jean Michel Jarre (Houston, 1986) References: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> <48E92B66.5050405@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0810051419l3ba18f23x88257889a457e99b@mail.gmail.com> <657EA793-3A0D-4A3C-95DD-6679EE3720AF@ubergadget.com> In-Reply-To: <657EA793-3A0D-4A3C-95DD-6679EE3720AF@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4UatDC.A.zHH.mnW6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Damn, that's incredible.! And I thought, like, Yanni was ambitious. Now I know where he gets his staging ideas, if not a speck of the musical ones. Believe it or not I'm new to his music, just started listening last week... you may write to me at A Rock (lower flat). Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > As a LONG time fan of JMJ, I was very fortunate to have been at the > huge outdoor show he performed as his *only* USA show ever, > and in (literally) downtown Houston,TX. on April 5th, 1986. ALL of the > downtown area of Houston was used as his "backdrop" > for image projections, large skyscrapers constantly changing colors, > fireworks, and more, and starting from near the large, > multi-tiered stage, there had been *large stacks of PAs* set up every > 1/4 mile or so, extending all the way to near the Southwest Freeway! > The show was also broadcast on the local radio stations and also, via > satellite, broadcast to many radio stations around the world! > Truly a "global" experience! There may(?) have been some television > transmissions as well to other parts of the world, > but I cannot confirm that at the moment. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 02:33:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 224BF3BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 02:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223260384; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=2yTvVeVErb758GorMoKqdRUo5SU=; b=Xj3/MnVUPC0Di6EhGPSLz07LJFb8SfIy/cAIioevOFzRvdyYklYtbOHSLsQNl7pC 2gtV/OSaDTCRmBVXRBf2icbJxvOgfFDmV78M7bVjWjtXHz6d7l5V3S4+Ga7l2HR/; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=3btjvDUMAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=TXoVn22p2DNlHubbBdIA:9 a=Ucjgt-CHiTA1Xkql3_QA:7 a=ShaF_GLYDqNNd5DP-BlVl3ysxYEA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=Bb0NJXYhAAAA:8 a=NttVBL_qZY02fHnU1WYA:9 a=219Q0hNJhp1j8FoWmdYA:7 a=_P5jc3xxgSY3tSl1DmANq-CLYygA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <005101c9275b$da76dd60$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000901c925c0$324f5be0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <958694.58035.qm@web45312.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60810051243h4db50c6cu19d7d980543785b9@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Oud tunings Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:33:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9273A.5289D180" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 02:33:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9273A.5289D180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Jim, I did get an off list message that said and I found it mentioned (I = forgot to check the LD archive,duh) that he uses DGADGC for his Glissentar. I have not tried it yet. I still have a long = way to go with the one I started on,=20 EABead. I am making progress on finding the notes but I still think in = guitar. It is such a wonderfully resonant instrument and I love playing = it. When looping I find it feedsback like crazy, more than my electric = acoustic. I have been using headphones to work on that. maybe some kind = of rubber plugs=20 when amplified. Hopefully that wouldn't kill the tone to badly. It has = been a gas learning something new. Hopefully I'll nail something to put up for ya soon. I really appreciate = the help you have been to me on this radical new trick for an old dog. = I'm saving for an electric... more on that... I would like to put my = hands on some of the ones we looked at. peace, j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Oud tunings Jeff as you know from our initial discussions i'm using the = Turkish/Armenian Tim ref's EABead. If Torn plays standard on guitar I = would bet he uses this or possibly is torquing this one to near guitar = as it's not far away. I think however using these intervals gives some = really wonderful textures. With my guitars I largely work in DADGAD and = had givenn some thought to using DADFAD which I had found in my = research however I've been a fan of EABead in my time iwth the oud and = continue to be. At the recent NYC Fretless Guitar Fest which I = performed on both guitar and oud, another musician/fretless player there = Edward Powell who is also an oudist in addition to being a luthier, had = suggested dropping the low E string down to B which I haven't tried as = yet so tuing BABead. I'm not sure with the nylon string how well the E = to B would tone but it might become more usful percussively from it's = looseness. Hope you are digging it... J On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Tim Nelson = wrote: Hi Jeff, Can't remember where/when (and this could be wrong), but I seem to = recall DT saying in an interview that (as he does on guitar) he uses = several different tunings. You might start with these and tweak with impunity: Standard Egyptian/Arab: D G A D G C Old Turkish Classical: A D E A D G New Turkish Classical: F# B E A D G Turkish/Armenian: E A B E A D Turkish/Armenian Variant: C# F# B E A D Standard Cumbus: D E A D G C This page is useful too: = -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Fri, 10/3/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > From: Jeff Duke > Subject: Oud tunings > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 9:26 PM > Just want to throw this out here, you can mail me back > offlist to save bandwidth. > Does anyone know what tuning David Torn uses? I have search > for awhile with no luck and its hard for me as a very new > oudist to tell from his recordings. > > thanx, > > Jeff > > > Out here in the Great Beyond, everything is strange. > The sooner you get used to that, the better off you'll > be. > Allen Steele > Galaxy Blues --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Hey Jim,
 
I did get an off list  message = that said and I=20 found it mentioned (I forgot to check the LD archive,duh) that he=20 uses
DGADGC  for his Glissentar. I have not tried it yet. I still have a = long way to=20 go with the one I started on,
EABead. I am making progress on finding the notes but I still think = in=20 guitar. It is such a wonderfully resonant instrument and I love playing = it. When=20 looping I find it feedsback like crazy, more than my electric acoustic. = I have=20 been using headphones to work on that. maybe some kind of rubber plugs =
when amplified. Hopefully that wouldn't kill the tone to badly. It = has been=20 a gas learning something new.
Hopefully I'll nail something to put up for ya soon. I really = appreciate=20 the help you have been to me on this radical new trick for an old dog. = I'm=20 saving for an electric...  more on that... I would like to put my = hands on=20 some of the ones we looked at.
 
peace,
          &nbs= p; =20 j
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 = 3:43=20 PM
Subject: Re: Oud tunings

Jeff as you know  from our initial discussions i'm using the = Turkish/Armenian Tim ref's EABead.  If Torn plays standard on = guitar I=20 would bet he uses this or possibly is torquing this one to near guitar = as it's=20 not far away.  I think however using these intervals gives some = really=20 wonderful textures.  With my guitars I largely work in DADGAD and = had  givenn some thought to using DADFAD which I had found in my = research=20 however I've been a fan of EABead in my time iwth the oud and continue = to=20 be.  At the recent NYC=20 Fretless Guitar Fest which I performed on both guitar and oud, = another=20 musician/fretless player there Edward=20 Powell who is also an oudist in addition to being a luthier, had = suggested=20 dropping the low E string down to B which I haven't tried as yet so = tuing=20 BABead.  I'm not sure with the nylon string how well the E to B = would=20 tone but it might become more usful percussively from it's = looseness. =20 Hope you are digging it...
 
J

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Tim Nelson = <psychle62@yahoo.com> = wrote:
Hi=20 Jeff,

Can't remember where/when (and this could be wrong), = but I seem=20 to recall DT saying in an interview that (as he does on guitar) he = uses=20 several different tunings.

You might start with these and = tweak with=20 impunity:
Standard Egyptian/Arab: D G A D G C
Old Turkish = Classical: A=20 D E A D G
New Turkish Classical: F# B E A D = G
Turkish/Armenian: E A B=20 E A D
Turkish/Armenian Variant: C# F# B E A D
Standard Cumbus: = D E A D=20 G C

This page is useful too: <http://www.oudcafe.com/stringing_and_tuning.htm>
-t-


http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes
http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson
http://www.youtube.com/speleman62


--- = On Fri,=20 10/3/08, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:

> From: Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
&g= t;=20 Subject: Oud tunings
> To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
>=20 Date: Friday, October 3, 2008, 9:26 PM
> Just want to throw this out here, you can = mail me=20 back
> offlist to save bandwidth.
> Does anyone know = what tuning=20 David Torn uses? I have search
> for awhile with no luck and = its hard=20 for me as a very new
> oudist to tell from his=20 recordings.
>
> thanx,
>
>=20 Jeff
>
>
> Out here in the Great Beyond, = everything is=20 strange.
> The sooner you get used to that, the better off=20 you'll
> be.
> Allen Steele
> Galaxy=20 Blues






--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
Chinapainting=20 -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com


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------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C9273A.5289D180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 03:01:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7E383BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:00:48 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: The Debate REWIRED on You Tube and Vimeo To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I've posted a cut-up edit of a recent performance to You Tube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wunZ88q_uk8 ) and Vimeo http://vimeo.com/1892609. Check it out, and let me know if you you find it interesting, or at least, amusing. The Debate REWIRED A visual music piece that consists of a cutup edit of a live performance that used the first debate between McCain and Obama as a video and audio source. Performed by Doctor T on visuals with musicians, Eric Crawley. Mike Finaiole, and Joe Brown at 119 Gallery, Lowell, MA. This work explores the tension between art and political passion. BTW Some of my photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 03:30:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39E613BE84; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:28:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:30:12 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 5, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > let's not forgot all thosepoor California yuppies, unable to flip > their 1000 square foot 2 million dollar > homes before their balloon payments came due. Since that's pretty > close to my demographic, I thank you for your concern. I was tempted to rest my case on the above comment alone. But... > The inconvenient truth is that the economy is a lot more complicated > than most people believe. Since I know many of you are simply too > busy to read an article that might challenge your beliefs, here's an > excerpt that says it better than I can: > > The U.S. economy is enormously complicated. Screwing it up takes a > great deal of cooperation. Claiming that a single piece of > legislation > was responsible for (or could have averted) the crisis is just > political grandstanding. We have no advice to offer on how best to > solve the financial crisis. But these sorts of partisan > caricatures > can only make the task more difficult. No one ever said that "a single piece of legislation was responsible" for this, or anything in politics for that matter. I certainly did not. But, what has finally come to a head concerning the specific subject, and over a very extended period of time, is a series of legislation that gradually eroded away a variety of previous safeguards and such, and usually via the hands of "conservative" Rethugs. Remember: The Rethugs have been at this ever since The New Deal and have been constantly chewing away at it, kind of like termites. (And, there was a specific reason *why* the The New Deal *had* to be created in the first place. Yup! Another previous and huge economic mess created, and one that was mainly "courtesy" of the Rethugs. Sound "familiar"? It should.) > > Check history for more details. > > Always wise advice. Indeed. Revisit it again, and often, and also much farther back in time, and more in depth and details. > To get elected, Obama is going to need the support of a large > number of > independent swing voters in key states. Incendiary rhetoric on blogs > (and mailing lists) is something the right loves to trot out as > examples > of "left wing lunacy", which like it or not resonates with a lot of > independents. At this point, and particularly after the smug and chirpy Ms. Palin's "performance" the other night, I think it a safe bet to know for whom those independent swing voters in key states will now cast their votes for. (Hint: Not for "The Beauty and the Beast") > Obama would be well served if passionate debaters on the left would > frame their arguments in a more diplomatic, informed, and dare I > say it, adult fashion. Ya mean to do the "same" as so many of those "adults" on the Rethug side of the aisle are so well known for? And, especially their well paid "talk" show mouthpieces? (Think: Rush "Federal narcotics violator" Limbaugh, BS O'Reilly, Michael "Savage" Weiner, Pawn Vannity, et al, ad nauseam.) Some more "good" advice. Thanx. > This will be my last post on the subject on LD, I think we've > overstayed > our welcome. But I'm also on loopers-delight-off-topic in case > anyone > feels like baiting me over there :-) > > Jeff I did not feel that another point of view in response was any kind of "baiting". But, if ya feel that "special", then I may(?) have to drop into LDOT as well, if / when I feel inclined to do so. :-) Cheers, -Rev.Fever From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 03:37:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 484CB3BE7E; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: Jean Michel Jarre Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:38:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <48E92B66.5050405@mhorse.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcknLa+bqoMl3ojgRwqzXdm0FIm8mQANZYNA Message-Id: <20081006033749.E7FF83BE77@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:37:50 +0000 (UTC) That's quite a collection... I left music school in Boston in 1972 with a band that had just bought one of the first Arp 2600s. Two guys in the band were joint owners, and while one did most of the initial programming, the other did most of the performing and eventually bought out the other. The first night they brought it to a gig, they got it cranked up but couldn't get it to turn off, so they had to pull the plug. They came up with some great orchestral patches along with various pink and white noises that were great for things like Moody Blues covers. I still think their home-made string section sound was the best I ever heard from a synth. We'd also had the Arp 2500 at school--I enjoyed the electronic music class that gave us basic understanding of oscillators, filters, sequencers etc. The class instructor would assign us to come up with a piece for a project, with various sounds and noises, then would insist on it having a title before he'd give it a grade. I'd always say something like "well, it's nothing" and he'd write down Nothing Coming, or I'd say "it's just some crap" and he'd write A Chap's Crap or something like that. I bet the Mellotron is left open due to frequency of maintenance... dave I enjoyed watching this vid of Jean Michel Jarre walk through his roomful (no lie) of vintage key equipment. Note the Loopstation sitting on the two-manual keyboard (Eminence?). Nice to see the inside of the Mellotron too, and his explanation of the 7-second loop. I love those sounds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_E8aGx777Q Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 04:02:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6E713BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 04:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8B3EC034-9E9E-477C-8768-DE4410A3388D@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:02:18 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 04:02:23 +0000 (UTC) [Larson] > Obama would be well served if passionate debaters on the left would > frame their arguments in a more diplomatic, informed, and dare I say > it, adult fashion. [Rev] > Ya mean to do the "same" as so many of those "adults" on the Rethug side of > the aisle are so well known for? Certainly not, there is plenty of lunacy on both sides. Thank you for clarifying. Nevertheless I don't think you appreciate swing voters and their political importance. > I did not feel that another point of view in response was any kind of > "baiting". But, if ya feel that "special", then I may(?) have to drop > into LDOT as well, if / when I feel inclined to do so. :-) Sorry, it was not my intent to divert any helpful information from what I'm sure is a rapt audience at LD. I thought your post at least had some substance as opposed to some of the one sentence sound bites that originally "baited" my responses. Being a contrarian is an occasional hobby of mine, and it never fails to amuse. So if ya want ta fuck with me, ya know where I am :-) All the best, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 05:06:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA5073BE84; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:06:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <8B3EC034-9E9E-477C-8768-DE4410A3388D@zonemobius.com> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> <8B3EC034-9E9E-477C-8768-DE4410A3388D@zonemobius.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <110989D3-A404-4E67-ABC2-6578C044466D@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 22:05:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:06:17 +0000 (UTC) (OK, One more time around with Mr. Larson, and then I am done here on the main LD list.) On Oct 5, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > [Rev] > > Ya mean to do the "same" as so many of those "adults" on the > Rethug side of > > the aisle are so well known for? > > Certainly not, there is plenty of lunacy on both sides. Thank you > for clarifying. No argument. / My pleasure. You now know completely on which side you are standing. > Nevertheless I don't think you appreciate swing voters and their > political > importance. I may just "appreciate" them and their importance more than you are possibly aware of, and I still stand by what I previously said. I usually do. But, whatever. Wait until after Nov. 4th. You'll see... > > I did not feel that another point of view in response was any > kind of > > "baiting". But, if ya feel that "special", then I may(?) have to > drop into LDOT as well, if / when I feel inclined to do so. :-) > > Sorry, it was not my intent to divert any helpful information from > what I'm sure is a rapt audience at LD. > I thought your post at least had some substance as opposed to some > of the one sentence sound bites that originally "baited" my responses. I will take (what appears on the surface to possibly be a patronizing reply here) as a compliment (or "compliment") for your noting that my words were not those of some "baiting" OSSB herd. :-) > Being a contrarian is an occasional hobby of mine, and it never > fails to amuse. Yes. It can be an interesting experiment. But, it is also a "glass house" that anyone who is not strong enough to be able to survive in unscathed should be cautious of about opening the door to such an abode, and deciding to take residence therein, and to operate out of. "Caveat incola". > So if ya want ta fuck with me, ya know where I am :-) Is this some of that "adult" language you were previously referring to in an earlier post? :-) If you wish to hurl your next "salvo" via the LDOT list, then I will consider whether if it is personally worthy enough for me to respond to (or, not), but that's all for me now on this particular flame, here on the main LD list. (Cue: Sound of collective "sigh of relief" on the main LD list. :-) ) Towards the Alien... -Rev. Fever > > All the best, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 05:12:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8473BE89; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:12:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> <8B3EC034-9E9E-477C-8768-DE4410A3388D@zonemobius.com> <110989D3-A404-4E67-ABC2-6578C044466D@ubergadget.com> Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:12:29 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:12:32 +0000 (UTC) So what can we learn musically from our diversionary OT topic? Can a metaphor be applied to music? (besides the loop one, of course) t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rev Fever" To: Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. > (OK, One more time around with Mr. Larson, and then I am done here on > the main LD list.) > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > >> [Rev] >> > Ya mean to do the "same" as so many of those "adults" on the >> Rethug side of >> > the aisle are so well known for? >> >> Certainly not, there is plenty of lunacy on both sides. Thank you >> for clarifying. > > No argument. / My pleasure. You now know completely on which side you > are standing. > >> Nevertheless I don't think you appreciate swing voters and their >> political >> importance. > > I may just "appreciate" them and their importance more than you are > possibly aware of, > and I still stand by what I previously said. I usually do. But, > whatever. Wait until after Nov. 4th. You'll see... > >> > I did not feel that another point of view in response was any >> kind of >> > "baiting". But, if ya feel that "special", then I may(?) have to >> drop into LDOT as well, if / when I feel inclined to do so. :-) >> >> Sorry, it was not my intent to divert any helpful information from >> what I'm sure is a rapt audience at LD. >> I thought your post at least had some substance as opposed to some >> of the one sentence sound bites that originally "baited" my responses. > > I will take (what appears on the surface to possibly be a patronizing > reply here) as a compliment (or "compliment") > for your noting that my words were not those of some "baiting" OSSB > herd. :-) > >> Being a contrarian is an occasional hobby of mine, and it never >> fails to amuse. > > Yes. It can be an interesting experiment. > But, it is also a "glass house" that anyone who is not strong enough > to be able to survive in unscathed should be cautious of > about opening the door to such an abode, and deciding to take > residence therein, and to operate out of. "Caveat incola". > >> So if ya want ta fuck with me, ya know where I am :-) > > Is this some of that "adult" language you were previously referring > to in an earlier post? :-) > > If you wish to hurl your next "salvo" via the LDOT list, then I will > consider whether if it is personally worthy enough for me to respond > to (or, not), > but that's all for me now on this particular flame, here on the main > LD list. (Cue: Sound of collective "sigh of relief" on the main LD > list. :-) ) > > Towards the Alien... > > -Rev. Fever > >> >> All the best, >> Jeff >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 05:13:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3003BE8A; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:13:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20081006051312824.C93681C0009D@mwinf2723.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60810051542x387254ag92de0ee310b15d9c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-149654343 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:13:10 +0200 References: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60810051542x387254ag92de0ee310b15d9c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:13:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-149654343 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out ning.com - I started a group there for citterns and related instruments. It works well. There is a different feel from a list like this, so it adds to it rather than replacing it. And it's free. On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:42 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > While on this note as I know there has been some suggest during my > time with LD that a forum bulletin board kind of thing would be more > useful to members than mailing list. I'm a member of the > Unfretted.com forum for the fretless guitar community and it's total > forum. Though I like the community feel of the email list frankly, > I do think this forum mode works pretty well. So just a thought. > > Jim > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin > wrote: > Great idea Michael I'll try to be mindful of this as I've donee a > fair amt of OT. Is this for all OT or just polictical OT? > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell > wrote: > Great > > On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com > > > > hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our > brains > > out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would > really love to > > hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have > always > > made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion > here but i > > must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i > think that > > was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, > i enjoy > > the debate.....m > > > > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA > > > > new groovy tunes at: > > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ************** > > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. > Dining, > > Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) > > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by > Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by > Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com --Apple-Mail-5-149654343 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out ning.com - I started = a group there for citterns and related instruments. It works well. =  There is a different feel from a list like this, so it adds to it = rather than replacing it.

And it's = free.

On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:42 AM, Jim Goodin = wrote:

While on this note as I know there = has been some suggest during my time with LD that a forum bulletin board = kind of thing would be more useful to members than mailing list.  = I'm a member of the Unfretted.com forum for = the fretless guitar community and it's total forum.  Though I  = like the community feel of the email list frankly, I do think this forum = mode works pretty well.  So just a thought.
 
=
Jim

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at = 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Great idea Michael I'll try to  be mindful of this as = I've donee a fair amt of OT.  Is this for all OT or just polictical = OT?


On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Great
=

On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com>= wrote:
> loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com
= >
>  hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and = party our brains
> out over here and not be bothered with OT = upset!.....i would really love to
> hear everyone's feelings on these = issues.....the folks on LD have always
> made me think and i respect = the level of thought and discussion here but i
> must admit to = feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think that
> was = why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i = enjoy
> the debate.....m
>
>  "AMERICANS ARN'T = STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA
>
>  new groovy tunes at:
> =  http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
>  www.ct-collective.com
>
>
>
>
>
> = **************
> New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your = destination. Dining,
> Movies, Events, News & more. Try it = out!
>  (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000001)=




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim = Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - = http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
= Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting = on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
= The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin = uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is = published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
=



--
The Acoustic = World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.comMySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimg= oodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.c= om
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.= com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 = other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, = Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
=

= --Apple-Mail-5-149654343-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 05:36:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A92383BE7E; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:36:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcknciNfw50bJwsORbquQe6QStHiRgAA0kuA Message-Id: <20081006053647.49F273BE78@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Garbage in = garbage out. dave So what can we learn musically from our diversionary OT topic? Can a metaphor be applied to music? (besides the loop one, of course) t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rev Fever" To: Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 10:05 PM Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. > (OK, One more time around with Mr. Larson, and then I am done here on > the main LD list.) > > On Oct 5, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Jeffrey Larson wrote: > >> [Rev] >> > Ya mean to do the "same" as so many of those "adults" on the >> Rethug side of >> > the aisle are so well known for? >> >> Certainly not, there is plenty of lunacy on both sides. Thank you >> for clarifying. > > No argument. / My pleasure. You now know completely on which side you > are standing. > >> Nevertheless I don't think you appreciate swing voters and their >> political >> importance. > > I may just "appreciate" them and their importance more than you are > possibly aware of, > and I still stand by what I previously said. I usually do. But, > whatever. Wait until after Nov. 4th. You'll see... > >> > I did not feel that another point of view in response was any >> kind of >> > "baiting". But, if ya feel that "special", then I may(?) have to >> drop into LDOT as well, if / when I feel inclined to do so. :-) >> >> Sorry, it was not my intent to divert any helpful information from >> what I'm sure is a rapt audience at LD. >> I thought your post at least had some substance as opposed to some >> of the one sentence sound bites that originally "baited" my responses. > > I will take (what appears on the surface to possibly be a patronizing > reply here) as a compliment (or "compliment") > for your noting that my words were not those of some "baiting" OSSB > herd. :-) > >> Being a contrarian is an occasional hobby of mine, and it never >> fails to amuse. > > Yes. It can be an interesting experiment. > But, it is also a "glass house" that anyone who is not strong enough > to be able to survive in unscathed should be cautious of > about opening the door to such an abode, and deciding to take > residence therein, and to operate out of. "Caveat incola". > >> So if ya want ta fuck with me, ya know where I am :-) > > Is this some of that "adult" language you were previously referring > to in an earlier post? :-) > > If you wish to hurl your next "salvo" via the LDOT list, then I will > consider whether if it is personally worthy enough for me to respond > to (or, not), > but that's all for me now on this particular flame, here on the main > LD list. (Cue: Sound of collective "sigh of relief" on the main LD > list. :-) ) > > Towards the Alien... > > -Rev. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 05:58:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 474E63BE8A; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:58:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <110989D3-A404-4E67-ABC2-6578C044466D@ubergadget.com> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> <8B3EC034-9E9E-477C-8768-DE4410A3388D@zonemobius.com> <110989D3-A404-4E67-ABC2-6578C044466D@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 00:58:49 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:58:55 +0000 (UTC) > (OK, One more time around with Mr. Larson, and then I am done here on > the main LD list.) Must...fight...urge...to...post...political...emails............. > No argument. My pleasure. You now know completely on which side you are standing. Hmm, I'm not sure I do but thanks for the hint. > I may just "appreciate" them and their importance more than you are > possibly aware of, and I still stand by what I previously said. I > usually do. But, whatever. Wait until after Nov. 4th. You'll see... Honestly I think the economic crisis has won the election for Obama. I'm not necessarily sad about that, but if the Republican/Industrial/ Christian machine was that powerful, shouldn't they have been able to defer that until after the election? > I will take (what appears on the surface to possibly be a patronizing > reply here) as a compliment (or "compliment") Do. >> Being a contrarian is an occasional hobby of mine, and it never fails to amuse. > But, it is also a "glass house" that anyone who is not strong enough > to be able to survive in unscathed should be cautious of about opening > the door to such an abode, and deciding to take residence therein, and > to operate out of. "Caveat incola". Will there be a bathroom in there? Because I like bathrooms. >> So if ya want ta fuck with me, ya know where I am :-) > Is this some of that "adult" language you were previously referring to > in an earlier post? :-) Ya betcha! :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 06:14:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3D283BE84; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=XPY7m3rnT6ROojq+u0xOqaJ2buzyxllwxCfD95Co8bOmZHA8b2bjjXyvkp6eqFel; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <28976498.1223273690891.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 23:14:50 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e51960688d1650822a09870f1875eaf092f27d6eb350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:14:51 +0000 (UTC) -----Original Message----- >From: Toby G > >So what can we learn musically from our diversionary OT topic? Preaching to the choir - echoing and looping what has already been chorused without refrain or restraint - requires one to scream over the choir. This results in excessive compression, digital distortion, and an absence of dynamics and nuance. or: Speak softly but carry a large Chapman stick? 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402383BE84; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:19:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckneJ7EAJDoMJ0pRNuZLl9QBXy4ngAAlHTQ Message-Id: <20081006061945.B3CED3BE78@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6E-kxD.A.7xB.B4a6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 06:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Don't forget that the Republican/Industrial/Christian Complex has benefited in two recent national elections from the "ES&S/Sequoia/Diebold Glitch Pedal." dave Honestly I think the economic crisis has won the election for Obama. I'm not necessarily sad about that, but if the Republican/Industrial/ Christian machine was that powerful, shouldn't they have been able to defer that until after the election? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 08:11:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D10ED3BE81; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:11:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aOvfubAbATlhC3WjYHrm/8qqBcz8YioZ/RzINPbFjjo=; b=kUCob39eOtykS/77ZBz8jOwlXyj+1Ssxz7h+e0KOSSd9KOeBcEv1wbiLv913SlGkWL EYc1XV2xhlIpr8UTnIikJaYnYu4Sz3LxMOXX9FvGYwetZZ8iaOtBfwdU04ScVen40CbO SEL/KbrFjuN6ULgaixIyW32eSw4HVp7X4WwXM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=B/yI5Gy7rfZnPF3wsH1cagO9qEiHQmgsS0a0lo7fqRgjmKbrz3fNJguIUh9IcJ45wx BfInkF2Y4JigA36Gk3ZpI9bqc9aJaiaaYRhZ+Cm3nHdV7WH35oDuukChy+vz5DA5iO0K iGTAk2vK+QGUwmorERwTeQGbb0Q+mR5/MKNM8= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00810060111j2235eec9t83478aa3c882e9ee@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 03:11:32 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18150_18871906.1223280692764" References: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60810051542x387254ag92de0ee310b15d9c@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:11:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_18150_18871906.1223280692764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A bulletin board would be much more useful than a mailing list :X On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:13 AM, doc rossi wrote: > Check out ning.com - I started a group there for citterns and related > instruments. It works well. There is a different feel from a list like > this, so it adds to it rather than replacing it. > And it's free. > > On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:42 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > > While on this note as I know there has been some suggest during my time > with LD that a forum bulletin board kind of thing would be more useful to > members than mailing list. I'm a member of the Unfretted.comforum for the fretless guitar community and it's total forum. Though I > like the community feel of the email list frankly, I do think this forum > mode works pretty well. So just a thought. > > Jim > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> Great idea Michael I'll try to be mindful of this as I've donee a fair >> amt of OT. Is this for all OT or just polictical OT? >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell wrote: >> >>> Great >>> >>> On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >>> > loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com >>> > >>> > hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our >>> brains >>> > out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really >>> love to >>> > hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have >>> always >>> > made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here >>> but i >>> > must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think >>> that >>> > was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i >>> enjoy >>> > the debate.....m >>> > >>> > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA >>> > >>> > new groovy tunes at: >>> > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 >>> > www.ct-collective.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ************** >>> > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, >>> > Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! >>> > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001) >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel >> Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >> > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > > ------=_Part_18150_18871906.1223280692764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
A bulletin board would be much more useful than a mailing list :X

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:13 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
Check out ning.com - I started a group there for citterns and related instruments. It works well.  There is a different feel from a list like this, so it adds to it rather than replacing it.

And it's free.

On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:42 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:

While on this note as I know there has been some suggest during my time with LD that a forum bulletin board kind of thing would be more useful to members than mailing list.  I'm a member of the Unfretted.com forum for the fretless guitar community and it's total forum.  Though I  like the community feel of the email list frankly, I do think this forum mode works pretty well.  So just a thought.
 
Jim

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Great idea Michael I'll try to  be mindful of this as I've donee a fair amt of OT.  Is this for all OT or just polictical OT?


On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote:
Great

On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
> loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com
>
>  hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party our brains
> out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would really love to
> hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD have always
> made me think and i respect the level of thought and discussion here but i
> must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i think that
> was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't care, i enjoy
> the debate.....m
>
>  "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA
>
>  new groovy tunes at:
>  http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
>  www.ct-collective.com
>
>
>
>
>
> **************
> New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining,
> Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!
>  (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000001)




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com


------=_Part_18150_18871906.1223280692764-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 08:24:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DEF63BE7E; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 531343.53503.bm@omp501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xVlcGmVX0+dSqlu9muZbQysn+dybuVvpgbTIvS5xTPDxwIPG9JZEnDQXRnfvVfTcXsTDp2o7lvvddcN+KNofv+Lcz8u229eqF+c5yt3GcZbExbf01EItjmifNXCN5oXhUj2mzinR+sZHSI8KPTeP654mM4bqCglN32VWlFJsxOw=; X-YMail-OSG: 7VE_5XAVM1mE2KOrLpdeJTqAlKeoFGO6e8mMzRgNgAPszZIyjPHeU1oHbh9QCspkNZP753C6TVWhHJgQNuZB3powpUroKOzVKFn_J7vD3Z1Ale5NU9tMTaQvTobpZCyHvdyoO4PyWa3u2L8fdC13QvzxoP46cGyWwW6fu6xJFTx2DO.VGGw- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 01:24:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Oud tunings To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <005101c9275b$da76dd60$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <437371.63599.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0v7l0D.A.xED.3sc6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 08:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Although the other thing about DT is that he changes equipment pretty regularly; he was involved in the early development of the Glissentar, but never really used it much due to his dissatisfaction with the compensated bridge and what he felt to be low-quality tuners. -t- ps: Here's something from the old Torn list 6 years ago (with a clue about his preferred tuning at the end): DT wrote in December 2002: >< http://www.godinguitars.com/godinglissentarp.htm > yes; i was involved in the prototyping of the glissentar. at the time, i was unhappy with: 1) the low-quality of the tuners, and 2) the use of a compensated bridge..... i had a very hard time w/the glissentar; it seemed to me (at the time) to be somewhat half-baked, and more like a fretless-bass type-sound than oud-like: (partially to do w/the gtr string length): i no longer use it: i'll stick w/the actual oud! on that note: i'll be receiving a new oud from luthier yaroub med fadel (tunisia) in late february, and am *very* excited to play it! while it is being built in the modern munir bashir/new iraqi style --- w/3 elliptical soundholes, no rosettes, strings ending at *body*-end (rather than at the bridge), etc--- it will be a 6-course, 11-string instrument (unlike m. bashir's 7-course, 13-string instruments), with a 60cm string-length..... and the lowest string will be at the bottom, in a more traditional arabic tuning than master bashir's. --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Jeff Duke wrote: > I did get an off list message that said and I found it > mentioned (I forgot to check the LD archive,duh) that he > uses > DGADGC for his Glissentar. 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I'm still under the presumption that a mailing list is more useful, for the following reasons: - Any user can chose what e-mail client to use. This also leads into... - Easy and fast ways to search for information. - Totally customizable regarding how the individual prefers to sort and keep track of posts. - Good online readers available, gmail being the leader right now. - Good offline readers available so one can read the posts and compose ones own replies when not being close to an internet node. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 11:38:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDA2F3BE81; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=1VIAg5ShaBoFam7abSwMj1rSVizYNkrSvWQCY7QyKEY=; b=tfgO3nhcdHd/bzpxPeGbBbFvjl4hcd/MO+YEmKqk/0N6VU3TfXjAxK4jyI5dlOnbUF p3G722fMX1UyIoBJuBVRzHcAWV9vB2rox7LMZBEaGQ9rx5eMl3oQUu5CwwiUwe9+/eLD bV5jCSFZrLa34MPUiEK179pQ2EBhBx2VpbPBk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bvSn9+0fERD+1eCKDspOGwj6YD+AwraPkKKjbnTLm3pkJFtQRxoLNnoJ8pIjkoIBGO qRRWTg+sJ3VaRfwDWeqhBNuwg90YrjPmxl2ICOCQXCYPHtLsg8h466swXM6nw/n+Kajd AxsG9GZFO03NMx2phZLZjoopTlJZlMTwq56QA= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810060438p5b7910dbi5ac48b3e8485f25d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:38:52 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810060344k6db64178n25491275a2440cee@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_54742_17989736.1223293132918" References: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60810051542x387254ag92de0ee310b15d9c@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00810060111j2235eec9t83478aa3c882e9ee@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810060344k6db64178n25491275a2440cee@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b6cf6bb203a6cbbb Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:38:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_54742_17989736.1223293132918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wholeheartadly agree with Mr Boysen, this subject comes up once a year.Personally Any forums I have been a member of I have always fallen out of. LD has been like this for 10 years, and the illustrious Mr Flint has here an immense resource in the archives. Its almost a tradition to be like this! True the system is a bit clunky nowadays, but as Per points out, with Gmail as your client, it IS a forum!!! If you don't use gmail I suggest you give it a try, and see the diff M On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM, marcus kirby > wrote: > > A bulletin board would be much more useful than a mailing list :X > > > It would be interesting to hear why? > > I'm still under the presumption that a mailing list is more useful, > for the following reasons: > > - Any user can chose what e-mail client to use. This also leads into... > - Easy and fast ways to search for information. > - Totally customizable regarding how the individual prefers to sort > and keep track of posts. > - Good online readers available, gmail being the leader right now. > - Good offline readers available so one can read the posts and compose > ones own replies when not being close to an internet node. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_54742_17989736.1223293132918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Wholeheartadly agree with Mr Boysen, this subject comes up once a year.Personally Any forums I have been a member of I have always fallen out of.

LD has been like this for 10 years, and the illustrious Mr Flint has here an immense resource in the archives. Its almost a tradition to be like this!

True the system is a bit clunky nowadays, but as Per points out, with Gmail as your client, it IS a forum!!! If you don't use gmail I suggest you give it a try, and see the diff

M

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM, marcus kirby <nrvana8775@gmail.com> wrote:
> A bulletin board would be much more useful than a mailing list :X


It would be interesting to hear why?

I'm still under the presumption that a mailing list is more useful,
for the following reasons:

- Any user can chose what e-mail client to use. This also leads into...
- Easy and fast ways to search for information.
- Totally customizable regarding how the individual prefers to sort
and keep track of posts.
- Good online readers available, gmail being the leader right now.
- Good offline readers available so one can read the posts and compose
ones own replies when not being close to an internet node.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no
------=_Part_54742_17989736.1223293132918-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 13:20:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8B903BE87; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:20:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=vtpX4FiInVr0OECXSuODjn3TfHe33xsSA1k2E6sempg=; b=xkDdTIl8qrrtPclMwqeb0mq0saLP7hrP/ZcT2KKd1uRi/41AuwF6ExelDc9i+5onzd IubYv/1C7nvGXiKTC9Bgt/doOllUoFb9kBO2rSINy4zzeiKqqnNJDRH4XvOxqtdVsFeH p+QxZPTKzXdSPbH+d+O8JY3BKuNNs/Micud7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=UHhf/cszugIZDqmfAltYvK7xd61v0J/eZnhHA4tYbjs8dzOBOZNpPD1pPwLnJy58tL NDNlv/4cvvJlG00MCiZjzQksbrU7sBI6NRwHSOyI85Jiy0Oc+nHMKtrw7Orckzy45XAb VvdbnjdFFBzjtTY19N9rBDSqPa+xcsm6lCV1E= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:20:11 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810060438p5b7910dbi5ac48b3e8485f25d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_67601_32192302.1223299211232" References: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60810051542x387254ag92de0ee310b15d9c@mail.gmail.com> <1c3a4db00810060111j2235eec9t83478aa3c882e9ee@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810060344k6db64178n25491275a2440cee@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0810060438p5b7910dbi5ac48b3e8485f25d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:20:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_67601_32192302.1223299211232 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline As someone who spends far too many of his waking hours dealling with issues of collecting, organizing, and making available reams and terrabytes of material, I would strongly advocate what both Per and Mark have said. The "archives" of the List are searchable, email clients such as Googlemail/Gmail help to thread the discussion in your Inbox, and YOU, the enduser, have control over making the decisions. Of course, "if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice (THUMP!THUMP!)"* ... so be it. Best to all, Dennis * Rush "Free Will" ... and that quote has come up twice in the past 16 hours ... "plate of shrimp"**? Perhaps ... ** "Repo Man" On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:38 AM, mark francombe wrote: > Wholeheartadly agree with Mr Boysen, this subject comes up once a > year.Personally Any forums I have been a member of I have always fallen out > of. > > LD has been like this for 10 years, and the illustrious Mr Flint has here > an immense resource in the archives. Its almost a tradition to be like this! > > True the system is a bit clunky nowadays, but as Per points out, with Gmail > as your client, it IS a forum!!! If you don't use gmail I suggest you give > it a try, and see the diff > > M > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM, marcus kirby >> wrote: >> > A bulletin board would be much more useful than a mailing list :X >> >> >> It would be interesting to hear why? >> >> I'm still under the presumption that a mailing list is more useful, >> for the following reasons: >> >> - Any user can chose what e-mail client to use. This also leads into... >> - Easy and fast ways to search for information. >> - Totally customizable regarding how the individual prefers to sort >> and keep track of posts. >> - Good online readers available, gmail being the leader right now. >> - Good offline readers available so one can read the posts and compose >> ones own replies when not being close to an internet node. >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> www.stockholm-athens.com >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_67601_32192302.1223299211232 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
As someone who spends far too many of his waking hours dealling with issues of collecting, organizing, and making available reams and terrabytes of material, I would strongly advocate what both Per and Mark have said. The "archives" of the List are searchable, email clients such as Googlemail/Gmail help to thread the discussion in your Inbox, and YOU, the enduser, have control over making the decisions.

Of course, "if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice (THUMP!THUMP!)"* ... so be it.

Best to all,

Dennis

* Rush "Free Will" ... and that quote has come up twice in the past 16 hours ... "plate of shrimp"**? Perhaps ...

** "Repo Man"

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:38 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Wholeheartadly agree with Mr Boysen, this subject comes up once a year.Personally Any forums I have been a member of I have always fallen out of.

LD has been like this for 10 years, and the illustrious Mr Flint has here an immense resource in the archives. Its almost a tradition to be like this!

True the system is a bit clunky nowadays, but as Per points out, with Gmail as your client, it IS a forum!!! If you don't use gmail I suggest you give it a try, and see the diff

M


On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:11 AM, marcus kirby <nrvana8775@gmail.com> wrote:
> A bulletin board would be much more useful than a mailing list :X


It would be interesting to hear why?

I'm still under the presumption that a mailing list is more useful,
for the following reasons:

- Any user can chose what e-mail client to use. This also leads into...
- Easy and fast ways to search for information.
- Totally customizable regarding how the individual prefers to sort
and keep track of posts.
- Good online readers available, gmail being the leader right now.
- Good offline readers available so one can read the posts and compose
ones own replies when not being close to an internet node.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no



--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
------=_Part_67601_32192302.1223299211232-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 13:27:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D99C3BE81; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223299663; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=tf8VF1SqcmGpZOE/ndsVcCcgNyM=; b=Q5qP2w5fajSQe+3vmJ2HaDrLiVWmILy2MVz/M6Decwq1wwfXw6mgSlw2VjrK4N/8 YjQ8emLK7rLgHlWMAtqG90/KwvZyFuBsbwYsYpegXvvJjIrCLZPIQHqMqLRqcBW1; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2OcZPwGKPTYA:10 a=y0Y_1sXu1lMA:10 a=eM93ndv4AAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=nEJoZ4RnAAAA:8 a=tCoxvbWIAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=e20eGjiza06H5TfCAQoA:9 a=dyBYZUXeEyC8zt7ItUEA:7 a=6v-1dPwN9igod_72TidgPcgPKjsA:4 a=v85VNKbcL74A:10 a=n5JjnfxUqgQA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=Bm6qEjDGwGEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=xuUbGimNAAAA:8 a=z9CuG-8Mje5ZSb4o9rMA:7 a=XxU1RBVuJgCJias1x2HclQLPE5kA:4 a=hHhh_Hn_XoQA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001201c927b7$4e9759d0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <9e0440a60810051539j5a7e126ycd0f8d93130d71e2@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60810051542x387254ag92de0ee310b15d9c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:27:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C92795.C6E13C70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 13:27:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C92795.C6E13C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey gang, remember that Nick Robinson started a Looping forum and its = still going albeit without alot of support. Check it out at http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com/index.cgi see you there, sticks ----- Original Message -----=20 From: doc rossi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:13 AM Subject: Re: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com Check out ning.com - I started a group there for citterns and related = instruments. It works well. There is a different feel from a list like = this, so it adds to it rather than replacing it. And it's free. On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:42 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: While on this note as I know there has been some suggest during my = time with LD that a forum bulletin board kind of thing would be more = useful to members than mailing list. I'm a member of the Unfretted.com = forum for the fretless guitar community and it's total forum. Though I = like the community feel of the email list frankly, I do think this forum = mode works pretty well. So just a thought. Jim On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin = wrote: Great idea Michael I'll try to be mindful of this as I've donee a = fair amt of OT. Is this for all OT or just polictical OT?=20 On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron Howell = wrote: Great On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com > > hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and party = our brains > out over here and not be bothered with OT upset!.....i would = really love to > hear everyone's feelings on these issues.....the folks on LD = have always > made me think and i respect the level of thought and = discussion here but i > must admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD = proper.....i think that > was why this group was started.....or carry on here, i don't = care, i enjoy > the debate.....m > > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA > > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > > > > > > ************** > New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. = Dining, > Movies, Events, News & more. 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Hey gang, remember that Nick Robinson = started a=20 Looping forum and its still going albeit without alot of = support.
Check it out at http://loopingmusi= c.proboards99.com/index.cgi
 
see you there,
 
sticks
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 doc = rossi=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 = 1:13=20 AM
Subject: Re: loopers-deligh= t-off-topic@googlegroups.com

Check out ning.com - I started a group there for = citterns and=20 related instruments. It works well.  There is a different feel = from a=20 list like this, so it adds to it rather than replacing it.

And it's free.

On Oct 6, 2008, at 12:42 AM, Jim Goodin wrote:
While on this note as I know there has been some suggest during = my time=20 with LD that a forum bulletin board kind of thing would be more = useful to=20 members than mailing list.  I'm a member of the Unfretted.com forum = for the=20 fretless guitar community and it's total forum.  Though I  = like=20 the community feel of the email list frankly, I do think this forum = mode=20 works pretty well.  So just a thought.
 
Jim

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Jim Goodin = <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com>= =20 wrote:
Great idea Michael I'll try to  be mindful of = this as=20 I've donee a fair amt of OT.  Is this for all OT or just = polictical=20 OT?=20


On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Byron = Howell <howell.byron@gmail.com> wrote:
Great

On 10/5/08, Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com>=20 wrote:
> loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com
>>=20  hey kiddies.....we can yell and scream and carry on and = party our=20 brains
> out over here and not be bothered with OT = upset!.....i=20 would really love to
> hear everyone's feelings on these=20 issues.....the folks on LD have always
> made me think and = i=20 respect the level of thought and discussion here but i
> = must=20 admit to feeling paranoid about OT stuff on LD proper.....i = think=20 that
> was why this group was started.....or carry on = here, i=20 don't care, i enjoy
> the debate.....m
>
>=20  "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA
>
>=20  new groovy tunes at:
>  http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
> =  www.ct-collective.com
>
>
>
>=
>
>=20 **************
> New MapQuest Local shows what's happening = at your=20 destination. Dining,
> Movies, Events, News & more. = Try it=20 out!
>  (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000001)<= BR>


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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C92795.C6E13C70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 14:48:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 068963BE7B; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:48:43 UTC Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 09:50:16 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Promote your NYC gig - free! In-reply-to: <10298108.1223231350510.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48EA1798.8070602@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <10298108.1223231350510.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:48:43 +0000 (UTC) David Sackman wrote: > Hey all, thought I'd pass this on from Downtown Music Gallery in NYC, > for getting info on your NYC gigs out. > "A possible tip for Musicians - from around the world - in promoting > their NYC area gigs > > Stagebuddy.com > Performs an illegal function and killed Mozilla Firefox in less than a second. IE died just as quickly. I'm using Win98. Does anyone else using Win98 experience any problems? (Is anyone else still using Win98?) Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 15:42:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 285813BE79; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 11:41:56 EDT Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bbc.3167f7ad.361b8bc4_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <7b1LfD.A.2IB.PHj6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:42:08 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bbc.3167f7ad.361b8bc4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 10/6/08 1:59:03 AM, jeff@zonemobius.com writes: > Ya betcha!=A0 :-) >=20 what damn joe 6 pack let sarah on this list? "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. =20 Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! =20 (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000001) --part1_bbc.3167f7ad.361b8bc4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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(http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000001) --part1_bbc.3167f7ad.361b8bc4_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 16:19:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAA363BE79; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48A832A451784D9B8A4ABB3591821665@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 17:19:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <96ylV.A.nMD.jqj6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:19:47 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- "Rev Fever" lathered: > No one ever said that "a single piece of legislation was responsible" > for this, or anything in politics for that matter. I certainly did not. Now that you mention it, you didn't. Perhaps there's a reason why! http://tinyurl.com/3pt3ch From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 19:14:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A52DA3BE79; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <48A832A451784D9B8A4ABB3591821665@eluk1> References: <4B7E42B3-A1BD-4729-8794-CC68CF25E3E8@comcast.net> <22447700.1223173636631.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E875D5.9020700@soundscapes.us> <7566193.1223206088948.JavaMail.root@m05> <48E8D183.60208@soundscapes.us> <272E8137-AFE8-448A-961B-ADF035792CDF@zonemobius.com> <1E6764CB-B61F-4D63-BA18-E6581BBA843D@midway.uchicago.edu> <31772C3B-0E5F-4E32-9558-D907CDF08330@zonemobius.com> <48A832A451784D9B8A4ABB3591821665@eluk1> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-200074824 Message-Id: <74914C16-2AE1-422C-989E-C15E87CAA46A@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:13:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,FUZZY_REFINANCE, HTML_MESSAGE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:14:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-200074824 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed (Oh Gawd, can't this be taken to LDOT instead? Puh-leeeeze? Sheesh! =20 OK. One MORE time and then I am DONE with on the LD list.) On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:19 AM, SP Goodman wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- "Rev Fever" =20 > lathered: > >> No one ever said that "a single piece of legislation was =20 >> responsible" for this, or anything in politics for that matter. I =20= >> certainly did not. > > Now that you mention it, you didn't. Perhaps there's a reason why! > http://tinyurl.com/3pt3ch (sigh) The same ol' tired, tried and true Rethuglican neoconartist =20 "answer" to everything...once *again*! "It's all CLINTON'S fault!" "It's all CLINTON'S fault!" "It's all =20 CLINTON'S fault!" (neocon noise machine echo-chamber loop set on =20 "infinite"...) (And in pre-Clinton times, it was "It's all CARTER'S fault!" "It's =20 all CARTER'S fault!" "It's all CARTER'S fault!". Sound familiar? =20 Zzzzzzzz...) Right out the Karl Rove Ministry of Propaganda playbook. (and / or =20 just more parroting from Reich wing neoconartist "talk" shows) Yup. This is what it always boils down to when the 'cons are losing, =20 and their "arguments" and "talking points" start to get *so many =20 holes* in them that they simply cannot successfully spin-float them any further. =20 Can't you 'cons come up with something new and more original anymore? I guess not. Must be some reasons for that. BTW, the 'thugs and 'cons =20= were also saying this same blame-Clinton stupid crap back in *2005* =20 with the *deficit*. Hmm...last I recall, when Clinton left office, there was a *surplus*, =20= and one that The Chimp Who Would Be Dictator *wiped out* in something =20= like 6 months. I guess that was some more of that (in)famous "fiscally conservative =20 responsibility!" that the 'cons and the "talk" show mouthpieces like =20 to go on so much about. But hey...blame Clinton for *that* too! Ah yes! =20 "Clinton" (trademark)! The One-Size-Fits-All-Blame! CONvenient! =20 Pick up yours today at your local Wal-Mart! (OK, now it must be time for the 'thugs to turn to the next page of =20 the KRMP playbook which is the chapter on "Fear and Smear". Oh wait. I forgot. McSame and Caribou Barbie are already in the =20 process of doing so. Stay afraid! Stay VERY afraid! But, keep on =20 shopping at Wal-Mart....) Not to really want to belabor the LD list anymore with this (why =20 didn't ya just send it to LDOT instead in the first place? sigh.) but =20= that article you furnished the link for "conveniently" left out a number of other details (along =20 containing some blatant lies and innuendo, etc. Gee....imagine that, =20 eh?) in the historical Big PIcture of how we got into this mess, and which =20= the 'thugs had a *big* hand in bringing about. But hey...those are =20 just some more "insignificant" and "unnecessary " details that would have taken up =20= too much time and space in the article, right? But, I am not gonna, =20 and don't wanna play yer personal "history teacher" here, so you will just have to do =20= yer own more in-depth research. (If ya can get beyond those "talking points" and "spins", and also =20 turn off those "talk" shows, and read something other than The =20 National Review, and The American Spectator, et al, and get away from the deification =20 of Milton Friedman, Leo Strauss, and of course, Ronnie "Mourning in =20 America" Ray Gun.) I'm done with that "job". BTW, it would have been even more educational to have read many of =20 those who gave their own personal comments after this article that =20 tell much more of the real story. Did you bother to read any of those? You should =20 have. For your reading CONvenience, I have provided one of the better =20= ones below. Read the facts, jack. "Mi tio es infermo, pero el camino est verde" (Mad Magazine) -Rev. Fever PS- What is missing from this article is that Clinton never encouraged =20 banks/finance & mortgage providers to: Aggressively sell loans/undercut each other; Take on "CEO's" with =20 obscene amounts in bail out packages/short term bonus payments; Lend people more money than the house they were buying was worth; =20 Managers neglecting the fundamental principles of lending that they =20 were taught in economics/finance at university through greed/hubris/=20 stupidity; Provide ever more finance to developers when it was =20 evident that buyers were defaulting on mortgages. All happened under the current Republican Administration. Then there =20 is the ultimate in financial/fiscal irresponsibility. The SEC =20 decision to allow a certain five firms to legally violate existing =20 net capital rules that, in the past 30 years, had limited broker =20 dealers debt-to-net capital ratio to 12-to-1. Instead, the 2004 =20 exemption, only given to these five firms ,allowed them to leverage =20 up to 30, even 40 to 1! Who were the five that received this special =20 exemption? Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Merrill =20 Lynch and Morgan Stanley. And the result? Three of the five broker =20 dealers have gone to the wall! The SEC should shoulder the blame itself for the current crisis. An =20 allegation being made by Lee Pickard, a former SEC official,, who =20 says that rule change in 2004 led to the failure of Bear Stearns, =20 Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch. "The SEC allowed five firms,the three that have collapsed plus =20 Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley , to more than double the leverage =20 they were allowed to keep on their balance sheets, and remove =20 discounts that had been applied to the assets they had been required =20 to keep to protect them from defaults." Making matters worse, according to Pickard, who helped write the =20 original rule in 1975 as director of the SEC's trading and markets =20 division, is a move by the SEC this month to further erode the =20 restraints on surviving broker dealers by withdrawing requirements =20 that they maintain a certain level of rating from the ratings =20 agencies. "They constructed a mechanism that simply didn't work," =20 Pickard said. "The proof is in the pudding =97 three of the five broker =20= dealers have blown up." Fiscally responsible Republicans? Nah! =20 Fiscally Risible Republicans! --Apple-Mail-1-200074824 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 (Oh Gawd, can't this be taken to LDOT instead? Puh-leeeeze? Sheesh! =A0OK.= One MORE time and then I am DONE with on the LD = list.)

On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:19 AM, SP Goodman = wrote:


----- Original Message ----- "Rev Fever" <revfever@ubergadget.com> = lathered:

=
No one ever said that "a = single piece of legislation was responsible"=A0 for this, or anything in = politics for that matter. I certainly did not.

Now that = you mention it, you didn't.=A0 = Perhaps there's a reason why!

(sigh) The =A0same ol' tired, tried and true = Rethuglican neoconartist "answer" to everything...once *again*! = =A0=A0

"It's all CLINTON'S fault!" =A0"It's all = CLINTON'S fault!"=A0"It's all CLINTON'S fault!"=A0(neocon noise machine = echo-chamber loop set on "infinite"...)

(And in = pre-Clinton times, it was=A0"It's all CARTER'S fault!"=A0"It's all = CARTER'S fault!"=A0"It's all CARTER'S fault!". Sound familiar? = Zzzzzzzz...)

Right out the Karl Rove Ministry = of Propaganda playbook. (and / or just more parroting from Reich wing = neoconartist "talk" shows)
Yup. This is what it always boils = down to when the 'cons are losing, and their "arguments" and "talking = points" start to get *so many holes* in them
that they simply = cannot successfully spin-float them any further.=A0Can't you 'cons come = up with something new and more original = anymore?=A0

I guess not. Must be some reasons = for that. BTW, the 'thugs and 'cons were also saying this same = blame-Clinton stupid crap back in *2005* with the = *deficit*.
Hmm...last I recall, when Clinton left office, = there was a *surplus*, and one that The Chimp Who Would Be Dictator = *wiped out* in something like 6 months.
I guess that was some = more of that (in)famous "fiscally conservative responsibility!" that the = 'cons and the "talk" show mouthpieces like to go on so much = about.

But hey...blame Clinton for *that* too! = =A0 Ah yes! =A0"Clinton" (trademark)! =A0The One-Size-Fits-All-Blame! = =A0CONvenient! =A0Pick up yours today at your local = Wal-Mart!

(OK, now it must be time for the = 'thugs to turn to the next page of the KRMP playbook which is the = chapter on "Fear and Smear".=A0
Oh wait. I forgot. McSame and = Caribou Barbie are already in the process of doing so. Stay afraid! Stay = VERY afraid! =A0But, keep on shopping at = Wal-Mart....)

Not to really want to belabor the = LD list anymore with this (why didn't ya just send it to LDOT instead in = the first place? sigh.) but that article you furnished = the=A0
link for "conveniently" left out a number of other = details (along containing some blatant lies and innuendo, etc. = Gee....imagine that, eh?)=A0
in the historical Big PIcture of = how we got into this mess,=A0and which the 'thugs =A0had a *big* hand in = bringing about. =A0But hey...those are just some = more=A0
"insignificant" =A0and "unnecessary " =A0details=A0that = would have taken up too much time =A0and space in the article, right? = But, I am not gonna, and don't wanna=A0
play yer = personal=A0"history teacher" here,=A0so you will just have to do yer = own=A0more in-depth research.=A0

(If ya can get = beyond those "talking points" and "spins", and also turn off those = "talk" shows, and read something other than The National = Review,=A0
and The American Spectator, et al, and get away = from the deification of Milton Friedman, Leo Strauss, and of course, = Ronnie "Mourning in America" Ray Gun.)

I'm done = with that "job".

BTW, it would have been even = more educational to have read many of those who gave their own personal = comments after this article=A0that tell much more=A0
of the = real story.=A0Did you bother to read any of those? You should have. For = your reading CONvenience, I have provided one of the better ones = below.=A0
Read the facts, jack.

"Mi = tio es infermo, pero el camino est verde" (Mad Magazine)
-Rev. = Fever

PS-

What = is missing from this article is that Clinton never encouraged = banks/finance & mortgage providers = to:

Aggressively sell = loans/undercut each other;=A0Take on "CEO's" with obscene amounts in = bail out packages/short term bonus payments;
Lend = people more money than the house they were buying was worth;=A0Managers = neglecting the fundamental principles of lending that they were taught = in economics/finance at university through = greed/hubris/stupidity;=A0Provide ever more finance to developers when = it was evident that buyers were defaulting on = mortgages.=A0

All happened under = the current Republican Administration.=A0Then there is the ultimate in = financial/fiscal irresponsibility.=A0The SEC decision to allow a certain = five firms to legally violate existing net capital rules that, in the = past 30 years, had limited broker dealers debt-to-net capital ratio to = 12-to-1. Instead, the 2004 exemption, only given to these five firms = ,allowed them to leverage up to 30, even 40 to 1!=A0Who were the five = that received this special exemption?=A0Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, = Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley. And the result?=A0Three= of the five broker dealers have gone to the = wall!

The SEC should shoulder the = blame itself for the current crisis. An allegation being made by Lee = Pickard, a former SEC official,, who says that rule change in 2004 led = to the failure of Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill = Lynch.

"The SEC allowed five = firms,the three that have collapsed plus Goldman Sachs and Morgan = Stanley , to more than double the leverage they were allowed to keep on = their balance sheets, and remove discounts that had been applied to the = assets they had been required to keep to protect them from = defaults."
Making matters worse, according to Pickard, = who helped write the original rule in 1975 as director of the SEC's = trading and markets division, is a move by the SEC this month to further = erode the restraints on surviving broker dealers by withdrawing = requirements that they maintain a certain level of rating from the = ratings agencies.=A0"They constructed a mechanism that simply didn't = work," Pickard said. "The proof is in the pudding =97 three of the five = broker dealers have blown up."=A0Fiscally responsible = Republicans?=A0Nah!=A0Fiscally Risible = Republicans!

= --Apple-Mail-1-200074824-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 19:33:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA1383BE79; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :references:x-mailer:from; bh=GeqKYJETBRsvQY/D89Pt9Ru1ywiOyAqakAQDrVrM+N4=; b=jMTOYlh8ssEHPeqceLtXDzPWm/s/D/YuWvxocmfn1FsXdz9ikhvA9pcCi4MK+b52QB /oJDokoDhmKATOqkYvrcgWZo1eicQG6/ihrQTtXf6EKJnuMCjbTU+M3NeBibZTorDAeC qk0Na3lUfXQIKhd7w0e7KI4dtwVVNBxeQQlUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:from; b=wWWXqjOeOoxJWLT/2onCHfq2BjjgJj/lQ7E3fW1zSboASys5jbmHyVG8umaZBsfANm U6F/jDVrpcCG6V7kORVDhjn4QWAWwPSGFUNyCDVMwJwcNI8PSOsP3jOsD6TwRkzN6l9C O5eggodP82Pru/bPtQMfJvschIOewTVTUADVA= Message-Id: <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:33:30 +0100 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Daniel Hegarty Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Thanks David, Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and not consistently at power up or power down. Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere to get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam! Thanks in advance Daniel On 4 Oct 2008, at 02:05, David Auker wrote: > Daniel, > > Mine does it, too...always has....really bad static noise. It's > fine after letting it warm up for a few minutes. (It's playing as > we speak!) I've just learned to not use it immediately after > powering up, and it works great after that, no probs. > > David > > Daniel Hegarty wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> New to the list, but I need some help. >> >> I just recently bought an EDP and had it shipped over from the >> states to the UK. First night got it home, powered it up and it >> worked perfectly. Went away on business for a week and when i >> returned i powered it up, recorded a loop and got this horrific >> white noise (ish) sound coming out of it. It seems if I leave it >> for a while its ok, but i bought an EDP for its reliability. >> >> Is this a common problem? Is there anything I can do about it? >> >> Thanks in advance for any advice >> >> Daniel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus >> Database: 270.7.5/1705 - Release Date: 10/3/2008 8:18 AM >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 19:52:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74FE93BE7E; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=SLiYLDiwdDQLkgV6xdGMkZ/xdK2UoF54R9qvPb2sJ7E=; b=W5Udgyh+bRjIo2T0hianSAeON+dT6qSOGxL3V3xpr7sAZ6JpCQ5FMUTodFgkIGu0jO N/JW4oX9pH1ho7FcWBYv+nX+xAfS/B2GpalXRpSbuPhSFP/4wac0NsxpH01kBfGTUVAX //uYtESUDQX5Gl/wou17MSlSJ407IxbFy/pIk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=u6JrYbsuZ6IKxg6b33ztEkVdgPkR8gVXtFYj/hVKw/MM0Bhu4iH+P1ZjpnEYEZJnyB zA5kYdMcx0xkyxfFE2qBzyrpk5EDrvA8Vs9PbHn8kkGOK759xTdbO7YXNhsa6PQRWtaS Z2ZZmubA77o6n3QXGNl/4bHDTHeHqP+/ioqvw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 12:52:21 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Echoplex In-Reply-To: <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_36114_32721978.1223322741930" References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:52:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_36114_32721978.1223322741930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power down, unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the SIMMs. Have you tried that? TH On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty < danielphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote: > Thanks David, > > Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and not > consistently at power up or power down. > > Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere to get it > fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam! > > Thanks in advance > Daniel > ------=_Part_36114_32721978.1223322741930 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power down, unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the SIMMs.   Have you tried that?

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote:
Thanks David,

Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and not consistently at power up or power down.

Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere to get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam!

Thanks in advance
Daniel


------=_Part_36114_32721978.1223322741930-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 19:57:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 087E13BE7E; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:57:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:in-reply-to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:from; bh=oaIglDkO/GAFy/lmYxN8FYoJJsunDx5Mc8eFpZ8Wfn8=; b=oPN9e4waFJasl+VwHYh0y45ttLprJIqdww42ISavKcw0oAVdhFwRe6EQ/4bO3TbZFd h34NWh06hTvGHuBcYhcgffnyOW9kp6PVj23DHUZkORSpf2DvSAY3zlYZbYQkUB/Vq7qB YKQxpTeIe6n7ypSRjuTB3eAN4yaXIkL1+1XEM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date :references:x-mailer:from; b=r4x/MVzLDRhSW0WQoVMSyJFM98xh6+NIIGrRN/2OrBtTG9FdI3kYzA0g8D3iktG6L9 +cjiQ653GHdejyxFlInTArpAerHKl1zY6baIuCZ+ZUjf8M4+k6d1hn61pzkyICxqK0mN zd1Mndker409gELgxUcR/GnUT9vZfnZWffM4o= Message-Id: <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-202710135 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:57:25 +0100 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Daniel Hegarty Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 19:57:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-202710135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Travis, I have, in every possible combination! They look clean and well seated, and i tried just doing 2 at a time to see if the issue was a bad SIMM, but they all give the same resul. Thanks D On 6 Oct 2008, at 20:52, Travis Hartnett wrote: > The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power down, > unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the SIMMs. > Have you tried that? > > TH > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: > Thanks David, > > Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and not > consistently at power up or power down. > > Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere to > get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam! > > Thanks in advance > Daniel > > --Apple-Mail-1-202710135 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey = Travis,

I have, in every possible combination! They = look clean and well seated, and i tried just doing 2 at a time to see if = the issue was a bad SIMM, but they all give the same = resul.

Thanks
D

On 6 Oct 2008, at 20:52, Travis Hartnett wrote:

The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power = down, unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the = SIMMs.   Have you tried that?

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty = <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
Thanks David,

Unfortunately my unit = is making the noise 90% of the time, and not consistently at power up or = power down.

Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? = There's nowhere to get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam!
=
Thanks in advance
= Daniel



= --Apple-Mail-1-202710135-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 20:27:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D57743BE75; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 88554014/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.248.226/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.248.226 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUBAPsQ6khPTvji/2dsb2JhbAAIvXaBaoM0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,369,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="88554014" Message-ID: <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:28:41 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Echoplex References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Try reseating all the chips that you can. The vibration from a transatlantic journey often loosens a chip, and causes problems. andy butler Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Hey Travis, > > I have, in every possible combination! They look clean and well seated, > and i tried just doing 2 at a time to see if the issue was a bad SIMM, > but they all give the same resul. > > Thanks > D > > On 6 Oct 2008, at 20:52, Travis Hartnett wrote: > >> The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power down, >> unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the SIMMs. Have >> you tried that? >> >> TH >> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty >> > >> wrote: >> >> Thanks David, >> >> Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and not >> consistently at power up or power down. >> >> Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere to >> get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam! >> >> Thanks in advance >> Daniel >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 21:34:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5E773BE79; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date :references:x-mailer:from; bh=f13/bVJQPutGlzVc11NgmNfoXoeeua+cTKth21e4Sag=; b=iQiqQxmYvQJ6CljB8OeuNJiQ955lBZVlknifphP15whbOp2TAV69YZwNkRZ6bkh33X j6itWNTBghqvRlNPgT1xOPzyJSui2yZDQlilNRlVwAT13OOcDHclKECSCKA07yV51GVq oTYK8/+m/GYY5wox72I0nm7WjIgAJLbz0zNwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:from; b=ZxDm0RMEXG/htdCl7WiXSzyxk3xaA8pXxvuFVCQwJpLoooZeFzy/+gOSAj/iT/PuDq TF3cD1Cq2xjUvQkY0BELK7+Uxy/HZ6iomQ51qh3M+QA1QZKBpZn/ReAJ0LkpnUHorrmU K3wXruWcnjC9vgWNeJNjRNE8VuhQw1s5jeGYQ= Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:34:10 +0100 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Daniel Hegarty Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:34:15 +0000 (UTC) Are there any chips you can reseat apart from the SIMMS, i've cleaned them all but i can't see how i could actually re-seat them.....? On 6 Oct 2008, at 21:28, andy butler wrote: > Try reseating all the chips that you can. > > The vibration from a transatlantic journey often loosens a chip, and > causes problems. > > andy butler > > > Daniel Hegarty wrote: >> Hey Travis, >> I have, in every possible combination! They look clean and well >> seated, and i tried just doing 2 at a time to see if the issue was >> a bad SIMM, but they all give the same resul. >> Thanks >> D >> On 6 Oct 2008, at 20:52, Travis Hartnett wrote: >>> The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power down, >>> unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the SIMMs. >>> Have you tried that? >>> >>> TH >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty >> > wrote: >>> >>> Thanks David, >>> >>> Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and >>> not >>> consistently at power up or power down. >>> >>> Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere >>> to >>> get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam! >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> Daniel >>> >>> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 21:55:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB4EC3BE75; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:55:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1qKg7Twf1ZMw32F/NAn3soRbWsds6gSS1s2xLBGKXAQ=; b=UCH3yBRRgmSuE1JVYU+DlibORhf9zObgh7Ma6WdOYLGGZFH07h5YEWSN2fZ39b2XLA Sq+j7bcS3Y6gO30mO+IarviRK+WiD175TMg0hsN0HU3fDi11lzVDgnbajTlq/xadEMNw ylkIWRYfEHOo9NkHDKpGhrqvG/0irjcS78niQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=i7hnnKtiz85MwfFyfC7I5Kzrthz9iO//Sf9rd5bLKuGaGky4jSULw+dVDH+pasB+JE W3Du/jOlIVjREBxjpEMsr67le5M/U0vkZHxGM3UiLuCZ477qZPDRCaRC4nlg6opb3EFL MiDYpu5Nk/lK3Vc9AjSWLz+5qZ5zdnKPedpgo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 14:55:04 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Echoplex In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_37165_22878937.1223330104830" References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:55:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_37165_22878937.1223330104830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The SIMMs have little clips on either side that you release, then they sort of pop out. The EPROMS can also be reseated, but you want to be careful with that. TH On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Hegarty < danielphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote: > Are there any chips you can reseat apart from the SIMMS, i've cleaned them > all but i can't see how i could actually re-seat them.....? > > > ------=_Part_37165_22878937.1223330104830 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The SIMMs have little clips on either side that you release, then they sort of pop out.
The EPROMS can also be reseated, but you want to be careful with that.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote:
Are there any chips you can reseat apart from the SIMMS, i've cleaned them all but i can't see how i could actually re-seat them.....?



------=_Part_37165_22878937.1223330104830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 21:58:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8ACC83BE75; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:in-reply-to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:from; bh=cJ00l3HiudJOq/pPgcAjpDLrfCJ16VlFsP4aRJhdMKw=; b=Z9CH2kCWAkUFIltnVNKei/RAr2ZAt74WwMBESsyLRcoZyBCCb0b4KzwuOJx3s6s+Li hc7QO+RFpgWMuKLyX+WBUCqpHl9O8Rj06D0fStesB+wpMgERMW/6SEv0ZMmdCElDaI5l tKxmlBuGPBaySFGYgfumIzFD1TrAPM2VgZUkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date :references:x-mailer:from; b=ahdsyx5ov8bytpEzbIkpBFBptU7bDnPnzV2eoc98Vs9LbIPDf+BwRvdMZR6nbitrxB SHQ+bRlErDvknM61akvziNPedofrwYXJDFcm8OfKda16DkWjhGN2kZ89vB4D9wNKZJbw /3NwJIlk4GH9JUn9ow6p7CrnvI1lJErupUP8Y= Message-Id: <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-209978607 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:58:34 +0100 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Daniel Hegarty Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 21:58:47 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-209978607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating them? Thanks D On 6 Oct 2008, at 22:55, Travis Hartnett wrote: > The SIMMs have little clips on either side that you release, then > they sort of pop out. > The EPROMS can also be reseated, but you want to be careful with that. > > TH > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: > Are there any chips you can reseat apart from the SIMMS, i've > cleaned them all but i can't see how i could actually re-seat > them.....? > > > --Apple-Mail-2-209978607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This will sound stupid but..... = which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating = them?

Thanks
D

On 6 = Oct 2008, at 22:55, Travis Hartnett wrote:

The SIMMs have little clips on either side that you release, = then they sort of pop out.
The EPROMS can also be reseated, but you = want to be careful with that.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Daniel Hegarty = <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
Are there any chips you can reseat apart from = the SIMMS, i've cleaned them all but i can't see how i could actually = re-seat them.....?

=


= = --Apple-Mail-2-209978607-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 22:07:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CA5D3BE7B; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=pwksmuRj8z9yz6TFYkTHqjAU9GJeNkyRS4AO5/zcbvA=; b=Ve3lQfrU3tMH6NwDz5zcQBah4j7mjUvqnCnGE+U/c44FMJQjAlnbS2CUe7h9ciTADU sztu1ZNIMYrDgZ/iRzR79AFi3G/a8Hc9rrNUYWmEBe33XAOG7/kZq33w15wVp43ziRJJ vYZYX+4xsSbg9ktPq8s8XesVBFOs24QydBMac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vhHewjfpW9/OqBzhqLCagduimp9mDC6PNDm7fN4I7SquPP8n4yDDnG4QTNLapV0GTo 2kMtQHB3MPxgMroIYssuOajyA5K+QI66wSQPMIVCBpukpuk4qGupmZek2tc60vWuqfJH HijqhW4tXziGOVsTLIVv6ZBQ4FFBO7haQpeWk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:07:53 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Echoplex In-Reply-To: <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_37348_19081248.1223330873750" References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 22:07:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_37348_19081248.1223330873750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I can't recall where they are right now. Whenever I had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones. Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find one online. TH On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty < danielphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote: > This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i > go about re-seating them? > Thanks > D > > ------=_Part_37348_19081248.1223330873750 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I can't recall where they are right now.  Whenever I had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones.  Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find one online.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.com> wrote:
This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating them?

Thanks
D


------=_Part_37348_19081248.1223330873750-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 23:00:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE8373BE73; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:00:38 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=SQj/LYaSvMUj/N4Ku8KGBw2Vg/+mTD54y+p2P8HengKmIlUJIsU4anvyIEiSsLqtwPm6VKdnfocriPzcUd8SFLNLsndQpkkLapuKqB0hOqjU7I+Rjbp2ca26oegIAi56qT3bIQ1I5RNlucW9IYD9eKCtTpDHaUYwPeujdKTXYSY=; X-YMail-OSG: eE5Msj0VM1lVpsCGsYkwlbXBxdy6iTWwIKsR9T4bQgT9aJdFdnpX9JXg.lXqb6j74_dKvv5MeXCibt4fv2rSrqDzG94fY.Xzj.w_w1FKhH7i7lw9ufjNGwZwrFqu894rbRtrFpSTg7HvQ9OyE91NYrEBk2GkbEbtr2vhwu6RxD3t6fLUhEs- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 15:53:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Reply-To: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <74914C16-2AE1-422C-989E-C15E87CAA46A@ubergadget.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-64000563-1223333636=:97989" Message-ID: <613404.97989.qm@web35101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-mC3LC.A.POF.Wip6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:00:38 +0000 (UTC) --0-64000563-1223333636=:97989 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know some have indicated that the thread be dropped, that LD is not the p= lace for political discourse, etc. - but, with the horrendous government th= e US has experienced the past eight years (and the end results the latest o= f which is the economic meltdown) it is entirely appropriate for artists & = musicians to point out the failures of a quasi-fascist government, which, e= ssentially, is what the Bush administration has become. =A0 The time for expressing dissent, which was quashed following 9/11, is now. = The US and the world cannot afford another government like the present one. =A0 'Sorry-I'm off my soap box. --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Rev Fever wrote: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:13 PM (Oh Gawd, can't this be taken to LDOT instead? Puh-leeeeze? Sheesh! =A0OK. = One MORE time and then I am DONE with on the LD list.) On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:19 AM, SP Goodman wrote: ----- Original Message ----- "Rev Fever" lathered= : No one ever said that "a single piece of legislation was responsible"=A0 fo= r this, or anything in politics for that matter. I certainly did not. Now that you mention it, you didn't.=A0 Perhaps there's a reason why! http://tinyurl.com/3pt3ch (sigh) The =A0same ol' tired, tried and true Rethuglican neoconartist "answ= er" to everything...once *again*! =A0=A0 "It's all CLINTON'S fault!" =A0"It's all CLINTON'S fault!"=A0"It's all CLIN= TON'S fault!"=A0(neocon noise machine echo-chamber loop set on "infinite"..= .) (And in pre-Clinton times, it was=A0"It's all CARTER'S fault!"=A0"It's all = CARTER'S fault!"=A0"It's all CARTER'S fault!". Sound familiar? Zzzzzzzz...) Right out the Karl Rove Ministry of Propaganda playbook. (and / or just mor= e parroting from Reich wing neoconartist "talk" shows) Yup. This is what it always boils down to when the 'cons are losing, and th= eir "arguments" and "talking points" start to get *so many holes* in them that they simply cannot successfully spin-float them any further.=A0Can't y= ou 'cons come up with something new and more original anymore?=A0 I guess not. Must be some reasons for that. BTW, the 'thugs and 'cons were = also saying this same blame-Clinton stupid crap back in *2005* with the *de= ficit*. Hmm...last I recall, when Clinton left office, there was a *surplus*, and o= ne that The Chimp Who Would Be Dictator *wiped out* in something like 6 mon= ths. I guess that was some more of that (in)famous "fiscally conservative respon= sibility!" that the 'cons and the "talk" show mouthpieces like to go on so = much about. But hey...blame Clinton for *that* too! =A0 Ah yes! =A0"Clinton" (trademark= )! =A0The One-Size-Fits-All-Blame! =A0CONvenient! =A0Pick up yours today at= your local Wal-Mart! (OK, now it must be time for the 'thugs to turn to the next page of the KRM= P playbook which is the chapter on "Fear and Smear".=A0 Oh wait. I forgot. McSame and Caribou Barbie are already in the process of = doing so. Stay afraid! Stay VERY afraid! =A0But, keep on shopping at Wal-Ma= rt....) Not to really want to belabor the LD list anymore with this (why didn't ya = just send it to LDOT instead in the first place? sigh.) but that article yo= u furnished the=A0 link for "conveniently" left out a number of other details (along containin= g some blatant lies and innuendo, etc. Gee....imagine that, eh?)=A0 in the historical Big PIcture of how we got into this mess,=A0and which the= 'thugs =A0had a *big* hand in bringing about. =A0But hey...those are just = some more=A0 "insignificant" =A0and "unnecessary " =A0details=A0that would have taken up= too much time =A0and space in the article, right? But, I am not gonna, and= don't wanna=A0 play yer personal=A0"history teacher" here,=A0so you will just have to do y= er own=A0more in-depth research.=A0 (If ya can get beyond those "talking points" and "spins", and also turn off= those "talk" shows, and read something other than The National Review,=A0 and The American Spectator, et al, and get away from the deification of Mil= ton Friedman, Leo Strauss, and of course, Ronnie "Mourning in America" Ray = Gun.) I'm done with that "job". BTW, it would have been even more educational to have read many of those wh= o gave their own personal comments after this article=A0that tell much more= =A0 of the real story.=A0Did you bother to read any of those? You should have. = For your reading CONvenience, I have provided one of the better ones below.= =A0 Read the facts, jack. "Mi tio es infermo, pero el camino est verde" (Mad Magazine) -Rev. Fever PS- What is missing from this article is that Clinton never encouraged banks/fi= nance & mortgage providers to: Aggressively sell loans/undercut each other;=A0Take on "CEO's" with obscene= amounts in bail out packages/short term bonus payments; Lend people more money than the house they were buying was worth;=A0Manager= s neglecting the fundamental principles of lending that they were taught in= economics/finance at university through greed/hubris/stupidity;=A0Provide = ever more finance to developers when it was evident that buyers were defaul= ting on mortgages.=A0 All happened under the current Republican Administration.=A0Then there is t= he ultimate in financial/fiscal irresponsibility.=A0The SEC decision to all= ow a certain five firms to legally violate existing net capital rules that,= in the past 30 years, had limited broker dealers debt-to-net capital ratio= to 12-to-1. Instead, the 2004 exemption, only given to these five firms ,a= llowed them to leverage up to 30, even 40 to 1!=A0Who were the five that re= ceived this special exemption?=A0Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Lehman Brothe= rs, Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley. And the result?=A0Three of the five b= roker dealers have gone to the wall! The SEC should shoulder the blame itself for the current crisis. An allegat= ion being made by Lee Pickard, a former SEC official,, who says that rule c= hange in 2004 led to the failure of Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merri= ll Lynch. "The SEC allowed five firms,the three that have collapsed plus Goldman Sach= s and Morgan Stanley , to more than double the leverage they were allowed t= o keep on their balance sheets, and remove discounts that had been applied = to the assets they had been required to keep to protect them from defaults.= " Making matters worse, according to Pickard, who helped write the original r= ule in 1975 as director of the SEC's trading and markets division, is a mov= e by the SEC this month to further erode the restraints on surviving broker= dealers by withdrawing requirements that they maintain a certain level of = rating from the ratings agencies.=A0"They constructed a mechanism that simp= ly didn't work," Pickard said. "The proof is in the pudding =97 three of th= e five broker dealers have blown up."=A0Fiscally responsible Republicans?= =A0Nah!=A0Fiscally Risible Republicans! =0A=0A=0A --0-64000563-1223333636=:97989 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I know some have indicated that the thre= ad be dropped, that LD is not the place for political discourse, etc. - but= , with the horrendous government the US has experienced the past eight year= s (and the end results the latest of which is the economic meltdown) it is = entirely appropriate for artists & musicians to point out the failures = of a quasi-fascist government, which, essentially, is what the Bush adminis= tration has become.
 
The time for expressing dissent, which was quashed following 9/11, is = now. The US and the world cannot afford another government like the present= one.
 
'Sorry-I'm off my soap box.

--- On Mon, 10/6/08, Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com&g= t; wrote:
From: Rev Fever <revfever@ubergadget.com>
Su= bject: Re: OT: McCains Howard Dean Moment.
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-d= elight.com
Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 3:13 PM

(Oh Gawd, can't this be taken to LDOT instead? Puh-l= eeeeze? Sheesh!  OK. One MORE time and then I am DONE with on the LD l= ist.)

On Oct 6, 2008, at 9:19 AM, SP Goodman wrote:


----- Original Message ----- "Rev Fever" <revf= ever@ubergadget.com> lathered:

No one ever said that "a single piece of legisla= tion was responsible"  for = this, or anything in politics for that matter. I certainly did not.

Now that you mention it, you didn't.  Perhaps there's a reason why!

(sigh) The  same ol' tired, tried and true Rethuglican = neoconartist "answer" to everything...once *again*!   

"It's all CLINTON'S fault!"  "It's all CLINTON'S fault!" "It= 's all CLINTON'S fault!" (neocon noise machine echo-chamber loop set o= n "infinite"...)

(And in pre-Clinton times, it was "It's all CARTER'S fault!" = ;"It's all CARTER'S fault!" "It's all CARTER'S fault!". Sound familiar= ? Zzzzzzzz...)

Right out the Karl Rove Ministry of Propaganda playbook. (and / or jus= t more parroting from Reich wing neoconartist "talk" shows)
Yup. This is what it always boils down to when the 'cons are losing, a= nd their "arguments" and "talking points" start to get *so many holes* in t= hem
that they simply cannot successfully spin-float them any further. = ;Can't you 'cons come up with something new and more original anymore? = ;

I guess not. Must be some reasons for that. BTW, the 'thugs and 'cons = were also saying this same blame-Clinton stupid crap back in *2005* with th= e *deficit*.
Hmm...last I recall, when Clinton left office, there was a *surplus*, = and one that The Chimp Who Would Be Dictator *wiped out* in something like = 6 months.
I guess that was some more of that (in)famous "fiscally conservative r= esponsibility!" that the 'cons and the "talk" show mouthpieces like to go o= n so much about.

But hey...blame Clinton for *that* too!   Ah yes!  "Clinton"= (trademark)!  The One-Size-Fits-All-Blame!  CONvenient!  Pi= ck up yours today at your local Wal-Mart!

(OK, now it must be time for the 'thugs to turn to the next page of th= e KRMP playbook which is the chapter on "Fear and Smear". 
Oh wait. I forgot. McSame and Caribou Barbie are already in the proces= s of doing so. Stay afraid! Stay VERY afraid!  But, keep on shopping a= t Wal-Mart....)

Not to really want to belabor the LD list anymore with this (why didn'= t ya just send it to LDOT instead in the first place? sigh.) but that artic= le you furnished the 
link for "conveniently" left out a number of other details (along cont= aining some blatant lies and innuendo, etc. Gee....imagine that, eh?) =
in the historical Big PIcture of how we got into this mess, and w= hich the 'thugs  had a *big* hand in bringing about.  But hey...t= hose are just some more 
"insignificant"  and "unnecessary "  details that would= have taken up too much time  and space in the article, right? But, I = am not gonna, and don't wanna 
play yer personal "history teacher" here, so you will just h= ave to do yer own more in-depth research. 

(If ya can get beyond those "talking points" and "spins", and also tur= n off those "talk" shows, and read something other than The National Review= , 
and The American Spectator, et al, and get away from the deification o= f Milton Friedman, Leo Strauss, and of course, Ronnie "Mourning in America"= Ray Gun.)

I'm done with that "job".

BTW, it would have been even more educational to have read many of tho= se who gave their own personal comments after this article that tell m= uch more 
of the real story. Did you bother to read any of those? You shoul= d have. For your reading CONvenience, I have provided one of the better one= s below. 
Read the facts, jack.

"Mi tio es infermo, pero el camino est verde" (Mad Magazine)
-Rev. Fever

PS-

What is missing from this article is that Clinton never encouraged = banks/finance & mortgage providers to:

Aggressively sell loans/undercut each other; Take on "CEO's" w= ith obscene amounts in bail out packages/short term bonus payments;
Lend people more money than the house they were buying was worth;&n= bsp;Managers neglecting the fundamental principles of lending that they wer= e taught in economics/finance at university through greed/hubris/stupidity;=  Provide ever more finance to developers when it was evident that buye= rs were defaulting on mortgages. 

All happened under the current Republican Administration. Then= there is the ultimate in financial/fiscal irresponsibility. The SEC d= ecision to allow a certain five firms to legally violate existing net capit= al rules that, in the past 30 years, had limited broker dealers debt-to-net= capital ratio to 12-to-1. Instead, the 2004 exemption, only given to these= five firms ,allowed them to leverage up to 30, even 40 to 1! Who were= the five that received this special exemption? Bear Stearns, Goldman = Sachs, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley. And the result?&n= bsp;Three of the five broker dealers have gone to the wall!

The SEC should shoulder the blame itself for the current crisis. An= allegation being made by Lee Pickard, a former SEC official,, who says tha= t rule change in 2004 led to the failure of Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers a= nd Merrill Lynch.

"The SEC allowed five firms,the three that have collapsed plus Gold= man Sachs and Morgan Stanley , to more than double the leverage they were a= llowed to keep on their balance sheets, and remove discounts that had been = applied to the assets they had been required to keep to protect them from d= efaults."
Making matters worse, according to Pickard, who helped write the or= iginal rule in 1975 as director of the SEC's trading and markets division, = is a move by the SEC this month to further erode the restraints on survivin= g broker dealers by withdrawing requirements that they maintain a certain l= evel of rating from the ratings agencies. "They constructed a mechanis= m that simply didn't work," Pickard said. "The proof is in the pudding =97 = three of the five broker dealers have blown up." Fiscally responsible = Republicans? Nah! Fiscally Risible Republicans!


=0A=0A=0A=0A = --0-64000563-1223333636=:97989-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 6 23:07:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F27463BE7F; Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-47-214066277 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:06:42 -0300 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 23:07:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-47-214066277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EPROMs have labels on them... any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better not take it out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then pushed back its harder with the two square chips, since you can only insert a fine thing in two corner and the socket may be forced... there is a special tool for those. contact spray is another method. since its working correctly sometimes, a bad contact is quite likely often it can be produced or "fixed" by just bending the board or hitting on it in different places (softly drop the back of a screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad spot\ good luck! and sorry for the confusion some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, so "new" is relative... Matthias On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote: > I can't recall where they are right now. Whenever I had to reseat > them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was holding > the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find the > two things already on the board that looked like the new ones. > Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to > find one online. > > TH > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty > wrote: > This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how > would i go about re-seating them? > > Thanks > D > > --Apple-Mail-47-214066277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EPROMs have labels on = them... 
any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better = not take it out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then = pushed back
its harder with the two square chips, since you = can only insert a fine thing in two corner and the socket may be = forced... there is a special tool for those.
contact spray is = another method.
since its working correctly sometimes, a bad = contact is quite likely
often it can be produced or "fixed" by = just bending the board or hitting on it in different places (softly drop = the back of a screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad = spot\

good luck!
and sorry for the = confusion
some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, = so "new" is = relative...
Matthias


On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote:

I can't recall where they are right now.  Whenever I = had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was = holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find = the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones.  = Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find = one online.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, = 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
This will sound stupid = but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating = them?

Thanks
D



= --Apple-Mail-47-214066277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 03:48:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AA023BE79; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 03:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HmZYUv4NCYtfcjyS3dvvN4m5gtqUM7HIJO/vuX3ANrQ=; b=Nu7j8Cyn8y3QBnDSHulmW9qANCbZFIeHuhdOMNwkmNN2XEPFvBiXMWYqqRpkz14+J2 uGA8bnT0tjNxrQ4JGRPakqHwyR2jgE35bSR2T61j2UgKtzUJhmevHdJF6uO9KgZ3kd8F 5K3aL8pDcQOLJ6Rcee70pARCF7MVrbOowTo9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=o7/qCkEsuXXZHvCFG1XBXt1yDVy3pvnIKbJ+1t7u3No3KIkCUf4TSdLFqbvXgsL+uR doIb+9ax2ReHge1KkP4qpFuhd59PF4ol6r3l9nYeTBTR2PsW2dZa4vQ671cjGi8j2ff1 tgsTHXWvGIMaRife79T3fg4aprnyOk38ay1i8= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 20:48:02 -0700 From: "David Sackman" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Promote your NYC gig - free! In-Reply-To: <48EA1798.8070602@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <10298108.1223231350510.JavaMail.root@m05> <48EA1798.8070602@soundscapes.us> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 03:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Whoops, should have checked it out before I sent it. That's what happens when I "assume" a source is reliable... Sorry, David On 10/6/08, Bill Fox wrote: > David Sackman wrote: > > > Hey all, thought I'd pass this on from Downtown Music Gallery in NYC, > > for getting info on your NYC gigs out. > > "A possible tip for Musicians - from around the world - in promoting > > their NYC area gigs > > > > Stagebuddy.com > > > > > Performs an illegal function and killed Mozilla Firefox in less than a > second. IE died just as quickly. I'm using Win98. Does anyone else using > Win98 experience any problems? (Is anyone else still using Win98?) > > Cheers, > > Bill > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 04:53:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 641453BE7F; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 04:53:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48EAEB0A.2090601@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 21:52:26 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KEVIN KISSINGER , JIM GOODIN -China Painting , "ISAAC (electric shovel) FRANKLE" , GOH NAKUMURA , "DARYL SHAWN (china painting)" , BILL WALKER , BILL PUTNAM , JACK SCHULTZ , JONATHAN KESSLER , JEFF SLOAN , GLENN SMITH , CHRIS COHN , UNITY NGUYEN , PETER COR , JD DEVROS , TRAVIS LUND , ROBERTO ZORZI , RYUSEI HATTORI , MANDO-MAN , BARRY CLEVELAND , RICK WALKER , GENIE , KALIMBA MAN , MATT HERMAN , MATT DAVIGNON , MARGARET NOBLE , JAMES BAILEY , BOB AMSTADT , JORDIE TOPF , GREG POWERS , "LARRY the 'O'" , KOOROSH DARYAIE , DAN & THERESA SOLTZBERG , STAN CARD , DANIEL THOMAS , LUIS ANGULO , CARL WEINGARTEN , ERIC GLICK RIEMAN , "LINDSEY WALKER (newbie looper)" , CPR aka Chris Roberts , KRISPEN HARTUNG , GARY REGINA , TED KILLIAN , MARK HAMBURG , "AMAR CHAUDHARY. PHD" , PETER KNUDSEN , BOB BEEDE , JRJ , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , RICK WALKER , Y2K8 LOOPFEST email saves Subject: Y2K8 ACCOMODATIONS: important ALL PERFORMERS please read this and respond Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 04:53:19 +0000 (UTC) The economy being what it is, I've had an unprecedented number of requests to crash here at Butthead Manor in Bill's and my homes for the looping festival. We can accomodate a lot but we're at 9 people so far and we've started running out of sleeping bags, air mattresses and floor space. I need two things from our community if anyone can help 1) the loan of sleeping bags or air mattresses for our little 'looping fortress' 2) any Santa Cruz loopers who can to volunteer to take someone in at their home during the festival.I just finished a fabulous trip through 12 countries in Europe and the UK and it just made my trip to be taken in so graciously by artists. Remember that people are coming here from a long ways away and on their own dime. Please be generous and put someone up for the festival to help them defray their considerable expenses to perform here in the Cruz for us. send me an email that says I CAN HELP WITH HOUSING at Y2K8 in the subject line so my spam filter doesn't eat it. 3) Would everyone who is counting on (or hoping for floor space) please recontact me immediately so I don't have any surprises. So far I have this potential list: Jim Goodin, Daryl Shawn, Ted Killian, Krispen Hartung, Ryusei Hattori, Hideki Nakanishi, Roberto Zorzi, Luis Angulo, JD Devros, Kevin Spears send me an email that says COUNTING ON ACCOMODATIONS at Y2K8 in the subject line so my spam filter doesn't eat it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 06:51:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE9103BE79; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 06:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=ecyh0jg6xUA/oRYH+OcPOwlQZ8Vx+vTYESUXJXxAnjiAmKGTFaR2pC/j/h+qxdie; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <8756401.1223362279717.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 02:51:19 -0400 (EDT) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, KEVIN KISSINGER , JIM GOODIN -China Painting , "ISAAC (electric shovel) FRANKLE" , GOH NAKUMURA , "DARYL SHAWN (china painting)" , BILL WALKER , BILL PUTNAM , JACK SCHULTZ , JONATHAN KESSLER , JEFF SLOAN , GLENN SMITH , CHRIS COHN , UNITY NGUYEN , PETER COR , JD DEVROS , TRAVIS LUND , ROBERTO ZORZI , RYUSEI HATTORI , MANDO-MAN , BARRY CLEVELAND , RICK WALKER , GENIE , KALIMBA MAN , MATT HERMAN , MATT DAVIGNON , MARGARET NOBLE , JAMES BAILEY , BOB AMSTADT , JORDIE TOPF , GREG POWERS , LARRY the 'O' , KOOROSH DARYAIE , DAN & THERESA SOLTZBERG , STAN CARD , DANIEL THOMAS , LUIS ANGULO , CARL WEINGARTEN , ERIC GLICK RIEMAN , "LINDSEY WALKER (newbie looper)" , CPR aka Chris Roberts , KRISPEN HARTUNG , GARY REGINA , TED KILLIAN , MARK HAMBURG , "AMAR CHAUDHARY. PHD" , PETER KNUDSEN , BOB BEEDE , JRJ , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , RICK WALKER , Y2K8 LOOPFEST email saves Subject: Re: Y2K8 ACCOMODATIONS: important ALL PERFORMERS please read this and respond Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e51960688d14f9f53636d1301652cca4aa34a3615350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 06:51:25 +0000 (UTC) Good Lord, this is a large email distribution list; apologies to anyone who is uninterested. I doubt I will be able to attend this year; work, new puppy, & primary caregiver for my ALZ Mom keep me local & busy & tied down. I'm the idiot who missed it last year because I went camping a week too early (but seeing the fireworks from the Seacliff State Beach were worth it). I am in San Mateo on the Peninsula 10 minutes from SFO and about an hour+ from Santa Cruz and gladly offer a sleep sofa and/or a futon in an empty room to anyone needing a place to crash before or after the festival. Warning - 2 cats & 1 puppy in case you are allergic. Just drop me a line, Jim W. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 08:25:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5D5B3BE7C; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48EB1D58.6050805@dehnhard.com> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:27:04 +0200 From: Tilmann Dehnhard User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Echoplex References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/jbQrXeE5iiOiUhHL6RLPaLB+svF5J/lXhqjy IQp+cYngscgCEAXDjBwD7t9nKcuaYO8FThBQbo3Q9OK0c86PjA Q8iGI76N2g3ve5KDKJQ8XoascGnrrW+ Resent-Message-ID: <-VREl.A.C0G.8zx6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:25:32 +0000 (UTC) a friend of mine had a similar problem and had it repaired in berlin. main processor was broken, as far as i remember. i could connect you offlist, if need be. best - tilmann Daniel Hegarty schrieb: > Hey Travis, > > I have, in every possible combination! They look clean and well > seated, and i tried just doing 2 at a time to see if the issue was a > bad SIMM, but they all give the same resul. > > Thanks > D > > On 6 Oct 2008, at 20:52, Travis Hartnett wrote: > >> The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power down, >> unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the SIMMs. >> Have you tried that? >> >> TH >> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty >> > > wrote: >> >> Thanks David, >> >> Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and >> not consistently at power up or power down. >> >> Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere >> to get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam! >> >> Thanks in advance >> Daniel >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 10:50:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81D3C3BE7C; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:in-reply-to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:from; bh=Z7HNLLa8ZlomncbArFumRTaJ8Pr2HqWkXzLL3PADoXc=; b=MS0OOv87jEtsGpzMGpSpf3gmKtpDBiDUwKpmcSLdDOevBJvbCOKEWCUndwuCNfvRKj gQfQ/mM134b+8hzOQ+0gnxxAGe9lGl5d1AmB57MhmiNdjZ+QppcfIMBII+blcxAU5e2Q gy/NkLXOSe+fgQqbRtEmjedWhRIQ7/ibl/NRA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date :references:x-mailer:from; b=PGrHLvK/am1O8LgNh6s0lCFpYKLh/gvH2aOcHXZzuKEVlX+HsLc5vWNIpytJdebGwY 5ZYxSlMD8VFjVNw6PdKcEQRRA+9h4VlvYY7LRxwU22/Sbd8mMijQSMvjusw4m6PChevk 4I1FfVx9Dvl5j7Gj6s8xpYXrRAAEC9qZvTS74= Message-Id: <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-256317888 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:50:53 +0100 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Daniel Hegarty Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:50:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-256317888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Matthias, Thanks for you fast reply! Unfortunately things have gone from bad to worse. I knocked on all the chips and gently manipulated the board but nothing seemed to make a difference. When I put it into test mode and generated the 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted hiss! I re-seated all the EPROMS without any difficulty, and they've all sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. But..... now when it boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on the display and then re- boots again. It repeats this cycle endlessly! Oh dear...... Thanks again Daniel On 7 Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote: > EPROMs have labels on them... > any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better not take it out > completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then pushed back > its harder with the two square chips, since you can only insert a > fine thing in two corner and the socket may be forced... there is a > special tool for those. > contact spray is another method. > since its working correctly sometimes, a bad contact is quite likely > often it can be produced or "fixed" by just bending the board or > hitting on it in different places (softly drop the back of a screw > driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad spot\ > > good luck! > and sorry for the confusion > some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, so "new" is > relative... > Matthias > > > On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote: > >> I can't recall where they are right now. Whenever I had to reseat >> them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was holding >> the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find the >> two things already on the board that looked like the new ones. >> Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to >> find one online. >> >> TH >> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty > > wrote: >> This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how >> would i go about re-seating them? >> >> Thanks >> D >> >> > --Apple-Mail-3-256317888 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey = Matthias,

Thanks for you fast = reply!

Unfortunately things have gone from bad = to worse. I knocked on all the chips and gently manipulated the board = but nothing seemed to make a difference. When I put it into test mode = and generated the 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted = hiss!

I re-seated all the EPROMS without any = difficulty, and they've all sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. = But..... now when it boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on = the display and then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle = endlessly!

Oh = dear......

Thanks = again
Daniel


On 7 = Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote:

EPROMs have labels on = them... 
any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better = not take it out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then = pushed back
its harder with the two square chips, since you = can only insert a fine thing in two corner and the socket may be = forced... there is a special tool for those.
contact spray is = another method.
since its working correctly sometimes, a bad = contact is quite likely
often it can be produced or "fixed" by = just bending the board or hitting on it in different places (softly drop = the back of a screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad = spot\

good luck!
and sorry for the = confusion
some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, = so "new" is = relative...
Matthias


On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote:

I can't recall where they are right now.  Whenever I = had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was = holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find = the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones.  = Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find = one online.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, = 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
This will sound stupid = but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating = them?

Thanks
D



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I suspect it was also some bad contact at its socket... or some tolerance missmatch... thank you for helping each other! Matthias On 7 Oct 2008, at 05:27, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > a friend of mine had a similar problem and had it repaired in berlin. > main processor was broken, as far as i remember. > i could connect you offlist, if need be. > > best - tilmann > > Daniel Hegarty schrieb: >> Hey Travis, >> >> I have, in every possible combination! They look clean and well >> seated, and i tried just doing 2 at a time to see if the issue was >> a bad SIMM, but they all give the same resul. >> >> Thanks >> D >> >> On 6 Oct 2008, at 20:52, Travis Hartnett wrote: >> >>> The standard EDP-weirdness troubleshooting move is to power down, >>> unplug it, open it up and remove and then reseat all the SIMMs. >>> Have you tried that? >>> >>> TH >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Daniel Hegarty >> > wrote: >>> >>> Thanks David, >>> >>> Unfortunately my unit is making the noise 90% of the time, and >>> not consistently at power up or power down. >>> >>> Does anybody have any ideas about this problem? There's nowhere >>> to get it fixed in the UK, so I'm in a bit of a jam! >>> >>> Thanks in advance >>> Daniel >>> >>> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 18:06:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5806F3BE77; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:06:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: Andy Ewen Message-Id: <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-56-282434006 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 15:06:09 -0300 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:06:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-56-282434006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this means that the processor and most of the digital part runs and possibly the CODEC does not (the other square chip) it starts up at one crystal frequency and then switches to the other at the end of the loop circus, which is when your crashes now. On 7 Oct 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Hey Matthias, > > Thanks for you fast reply! > > Unfortunately things have gone from bad to worse. I knocked on all > the chips and gently manipulated the board but nothing seemed to > make a difference. When I put it into test mode and generated the > 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted hiss! > > I re-seated all the EPROMS without any difficulty, and they've all > sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. But..... now when it > boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on the display and > then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle endlessly! > > Oh dear...... > > Thanks again > Daniel > > > On 7 Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote: > >> EPROMs have labels on them... >> any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better not take it out >> completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then pushed back >> its harder with the two square chips, since you can only insert a >> fine thing in two corner and the socket may be forced... there is a >> special tool for those. >> contact spray is another method. >> since its working correctly sometimes, a bad contact is quite likely >> often it can be produced or "fixed" by just bending the board or >> hitting on it in different places (softly drop the back of a screw >> driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad spot\ >> >> good luck! >> and sorry for the confusion >> some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, so "new" is >> relative... >> Matthias >> >> >> On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >> >>> I can't recall where they are right now. Whenever I had to reseat >>> them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was holding >>> the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find the >>> two things already on the board that looked like the new ones. >>> Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable >>> to find one online. >>> >>> TH >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty >> > wrote: >>> This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how >>> would i go about re-seating them? >>> >>> Thanks >>> D >>> >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-56-282434006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this means that the processor = and most of the digital part runs

and possibly the CODEC does not = (the other square chip)
it starts up at one crystal frequency = and then switches to the other at the end of the loop circus, which is = when your crashes now.


On 7 Oct = 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote:

Hey = Matthias,

Thanks for you fast = reply!

Unfortunately things have gone from bad = to worse. I knocked on all the chips and gently manipulated the board = but nothing seemed to make a difference. When I put it into test mode = and generated the 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted = hiss!

I re-seated all the EPROMS without any = difficulty, and they've all sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. = But..... now when it boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on = the display and then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle = endlessly!

Oh = dear......

Thanks = again
Daniel


On 7 = Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote:

EPROMs have labels on = them... 
any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better = not take it out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then = pushed back
its harder with the two square chips, since you = can only insert a fine thing in two corner and the socket may be = forced... there is a special tool for those.
contact spray is = another method.
since its working correctly sometimes, a bad = contact is quite likely
often it can be produced or "fixed" by = just bending the board or hitting on it in different places (softly drop = the back of a screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad = spot\

good luck!
and sorry for the = confusion
some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, = so "new" is = relative...
Matthias


On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote:

I can't recall where they are right now.  Whenever I = had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was = holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find = the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones.  = Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find = one online.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, = 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
This will sound stupid = but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating = them?

Thanks
D



<= /div>

= --Apple-Mail-56-282434006-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 18:32:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A6023BE78; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 89075401/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.169.26/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.169.26 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApABAD1F60hPTqka/2dsb2JhbAAIv2+BaoM1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,373,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="89075401" Message-ID: <48EBAB96.4050402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 19:33:58 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Echoplex References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> In-Reply-To: <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC) >> I re-seated all the EPROMS without any difficulty, and they've all sat >> in nicely with no bent pins or anything. But..... now when it boots it >> just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on the display and then >> re-boots again. It repeats this cycle endlessly! >> >> Oh dear...... >> >> Thanks again >> Daniel well, see Matthias' comment (obviously :-) ..but what you have now is the classic "chips need reseating" symptoms. might be worth giving that another go. There's other chips in sockets to be reseated, not sure which, I'd usually go round all of them, although if I remember right there's one square one with small pins which I wouldn't try to lever up with a screwdriver. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 18:55:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74D803BE7E; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48EBB076.5010308@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:54:46 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: CA Tour gig spam References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> <48EBAB96.4050402@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48EBAB96.4050402@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 18:55:01 +0000 (UTC) hey all's, just wanted to share my upcoming CA tour dates. With two exceptions, these are all looping shows (which I'm really happy about..!). Thursday, Oct 9 - Luggage Store Gallery, San Francisco (duo w/Alan Anzalone on horns, plus League of Art Game Composers (LAG)) 9 p.m. Friday, Oct 10 - Norcal Noisefest, Sacramento (at Luna's Cafe) 10 p.m. CUMONFEELTHENOIZE!! Sunday, Oct 12 - Annie's Social Club, San Francisco (non-looping show, this is half instrumental guitar, half vocal tunes, w/Julie Zielinski & Pi) 7 p.m. Tuesday, Oct 14 - Bookzoo, Oakland (duo w/Matt Davignon on drum machine) 7:30 p.m. (I'm really looking forward to this one, I think Matt and I have some similarity of approach with our modest 20th century gear..) Wednesday, Oct 15 - Genghis Cohen, Los Angeles (also a non-looping show, half instrumental guitar, half vocal tunes, w/Toddy Ivy & Susan D) 9 p.m. Thursday, Oct 16 - Echo Curio, Los Angeles (w/Jim Goodin as Chinapainting) 8 p.m. Friday, Oct 17 - Saturationfest at Pharaoh's Den, Riverside (w/Chinapainting) 8 p.m. Saturday, Oct 18 - W2 Wines, Lodi (w/Chinapainting) 11 a.m.- 4 p.m. LOOPS ALL DAY Sunday, Oct 19 - the immortal two ring loop circus, Santa Cruz (w/Chinapainting) 8 p.m. CAN'T WAIT Monday, Oct 20 - SMF Series at Java Lounge, Sacramento (w/Chinapainting) 8:30 p.m. details for all these on my calendar: http://www.swanwelder.com/calendar.htm cheers, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 19:25:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01F703BE7E; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xiI9zopRaEu1TlrogEgOsdNXbD8CmsKEqjNuyB2+eUfGMTf2Y9COHNrTJrITJtoRhTOj+PROY7/4Rx0Z9DPUEBMMkGGZn22gFG0V9C6Fr242WtfiOy+/mWPDxnfdbYFQkbY9BuyL6KtN7FexfWBJEd20GV3F9XcIeEeUOCtlNrA=; X-YMail-OSG: U10l3acVM1nQ_C__zFCnIq.bAQ.li5wwb7BitfAJVsKDnlt7WraXKjGea2BRzdSf3URIW_xgf6nA4lhmqZKr5_K0foVmmYDDABuqq71VW45BqkowP.R5JXg6cny88AuFfA49Gq5l1kvC.jvWY02aOGQnErx355wjiZxdjs8bmFlZRzHe8ZMp8k0pzEwnu.4ThFnV X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:25:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Mint cond. Looperlative $900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <734750.79598.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:25:41 +0000 (UTC) most likely i will be selling mine after upgrading it with the noise mod from Bob,so please contact me if you are interested.I will also sell it for 900.-dlls. cheers www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 10/2/08, Dave Lauzon wrote: > From: Dave Lauzon > Subject: RE: Mint cond. Looperlative $900 > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 9:47 AM > Caroline, > > as long as shipping is reasonable I'll take it. > > Dave > > > > From: carogo@mac.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Mint cond. Looperlative $900 > Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 16:58:45 +0200 > > Hi all,I've reduced the price of my like-new > Looperlative to $900. It was bought earlier this year, works > perfectly and has two newly added components from Bob > Amstadt which make the floor noise lower than previous > versions of the machine.Please feel free to email me at > carogo@mac.comThanks,Caroline > > _________________________________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 19:32:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E0623BE7F; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=v7kdeKf8kIhW6j3THVFajRPu3/4NCJof1zAyloJ6Dy2MCNC8sIs7da/4CPhhsKp3WoEXpaSQ7HQtJv1ho/O+uos0igCOryM4PfV1zjraVntq9QGWhg8HqqHaoAzAnKhEgzzQp5WRqv0cq+UFzEQax0wCB1rhVpmsPa4eOYgx6g0=; X-YMail-OSG: kVHjGAEVM1k77N6ladKxqs0K7h5AmlsEQbwOpxMasMqmmPJIPQCjlJbBHqGanwQjDqzoDDCiudp5iR4KB4LxcvGVb.8q8W2sSe63KAZnohiiOYdytFO5MmXWYRofcdUAJnxwqar.B0z3Eij3p66DlEQ2Q7Y- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:32:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E48E7B.1070309@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <805395.95138.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Bro ive called you personally to gratulate you dont know if u got my message but happy birthday again! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 19:35:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A433B3BE84; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:35:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=qhKxxRHeUMgD0Miqxeq98kbsdPRajNAC/UM1JoeQuFwex/exqYauX45yq0sHnFO0JzjPZlNF4cTO2JMALhV64xkl+xB7UxGyePs3U1IupV4dj18ArRwwmDAVHEEgBpQjFdTbu4nuCdxfQ1FOqFg9aor29DxaHp33E4I6/tC/B+g=; X-YMail-OSG: 0HYuI9cVM1kRvVNYpGup60tWesiLbPZ_2wWtYcNMzVfZC3reYd_OJyD_9FSLBbEvvRcGNAmG1O7cqwmwmnMNYcZWaTslEcX7DQWMnwR7XlQblTsNs.rao4rr_7oyzzv4Adq94ryyYtIvK_g__MJ0Vy.Lr3rhngkHLuqMH8qPBI0OmuLlPs3dkwACKzwjEb54xJxG X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 12:35:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail (and other providers) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E47D20.9000906@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <525985.65025.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 19:35:30 +0000 (UTC) yup,it happens to me ive tried everything and still does it check your headers thats the best thing u can do! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 10/2/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: OT Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail (and other providers) > To: "LD" > Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:49 AM > Tim Nelson wrote: > > Sorry about the OT-ishness, but I'm wondering if > any other listmembers using Yahoo mail addresses have > had/resolved this situation: > > > > I just got an email from Matthias informing me that my > 'reply-to' setting points back to my address rather > than to the list. Upon investigation, he's right; it > sure does. > > > > But my posts USED to go back to the list, and I > haven't changed any settings. > > > > Investigating further, it seems my posts before June > have the correct 'reply-to', while those since July > don't. I know Yahoo has made some changes ('new' > mail vs. 'classic'), but again, I haven't > changed any settings, and looking through many pages of > Yahoo Mail FAQs I've found no way to fix it. > > > > Has this happened to anyone else? > > > > Don't worry, it happened to a whole load of us, > (probably still is). > > Oh, :-( and you still have the problem, > I had to edit the address to get this to go to > LD. > > Not just with Yahoo. > It seems a this is now "accepted" default > behaviour for email clients. > > > andy's FAQ > 1 > Q How do I know if it affects me? > A Hit "Reply To" for one of your own posts when > it comes back from LD, and check that the address > is LD, if it's not then you're "infected" > > > 2 > Q I'm on the Digest, how do I tell? > A You can't tell from the post, you'll have to just > look in your email account. > > 3 > Q How do I fix? > A Open up your email software, and check the details for > the account that you use for LD. There's an option to > enter a address, which has been > automatically (and pointlessly) filled with your own > address. Just erase your address from the , > and leave it blank. > > 4 > Q That's too hard, what do I do? > A Every time you send an email to LD, look at the header > info above where you are typing. You'll see the > is going to LD, which is good. If the > is the address of a poster that you're > replying to, then change it to the LD address > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com. > You'll also see your own address in the > , ..erase it. > > > 4 > Q I notice this problem with someone else on LD, what can I > do to help? > A Send this FAQ to their person mail address. > > > andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 20:15:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 432B53BE79; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <525985.65025.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail (and other providers) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:12:09 -0300 References: <525985.65025.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:15:47 +0000 (UTC) ? your Reply To: is correct now! On 7 Oct 2008, at 16:35, L.Angulo wrote: > yup,it happens to me ive tried everything and still does it > check your headers thats the best thing u can do! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Thu, 10/2/08, andy butler wrote: > >> From: andy butler >> Subject: OT Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail (and >> other providers) >> To: "LD" >> Date: Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:49 AM >> Tim Nelson wrote: >>> Sorry about the OT-ishness, but I'm wondering if >> any other listmembers using Yahoo mail addresses have >> had/resolved this situation: >>> >>> I just got an email from Matthias informing me that my >> 'reply-to' setting points back to my address rather >> than to the list. Upon investigation, he's right; it >> sure does. >>> >>> But my posts USED to go back to the list, and I >> haven't changed any settings. >>> >>> Investigating further, it seems my posts before June >> have the correct 'reply-to', while those since July >> don't. I know Yahoo has made some changes ('new' >> mail vs. 'classic'), but again, I haven't >> changed any settings, and looking through many pages of >> Yahoo Mail FAQs I've found no way to fix it. >>> >>> Has this happened to anyone else? >>> >> >> Don't worry, it happened to a whole load of us, >> (probably still is). >> >> Oh, :-( and you still have the problem, >> I had to edit the address to get this to go to >> LD. >> >> Not just with Yahoo. >> It seems a this is now "accepted" default >> behaviour for email clients. >> >> >> andy's FAQ >> 1 >> Q How do I know if it affects me? >> A Hit "Reply To" for one of your own posts when >> it comes back from LD, and check that the address >> is LD, if it's not then you're "infected" >> >> >> 2 >> Q I'm on the Digest, how do I tell? >> A You can't tell from the post, you'll have to just >> look in your email account. >> >> 3 >> Q How do I fix? >> A Open up your email software, and check the details for >> the account that you use for LD. There's an option to >> enter a address, which has been >> automatically (and pointlessly) filled with your own >> address. Just erase your address from the , >> and leave it blank. >> >> 4 >> Q That's too hard, what do I do? >> A Every time you send an email to LD, look at the header >> info above where you are typing. You'll see the >> is going to LD, which is good. If the >> is the address of a poster that you're >> replying to, then change it to the LD address >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com. >> You'll also see your own address in the >> , ..erase it. >> >> >> 4 >> Q I notice this problem with someone else on LD, what can I >> do to help? >> A Send this FAQ to their person mail address. >> >> >> andy butler > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 21:03:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 992D43BE80; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1inIM1vvn4EA9EkieNic/7CGuIyTZ5EQrzkPZ2Iw9og=; b=h7yHFTgwgAcUDN83hxoEQgJYVeRyztSXhXLiQCc5X3f3lL4I0om2a//agR9S65QjUP vxa63+bLf74Mjwzdpyv/1ueezEOh7JzEvnO64E6raUH8VLBi0FTWnxgHJEbdKwN8fWN9 koQX/EFsFrLbHzl3RF73NBCfplAzKL7RbpJIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hfXKMBbQlesjhH+rF2wBFhlGDC4kB05UlbJ9+qrtioX20dCRnyJEWCo+68OJvn2nrU 5E1Zb18a62MZQ8qc9dnvqx0owgYZduVWRMm0w6cA0fjAL0y/SPcc9Rv7m3P09jc/nL0U 81qtjO3THFeoyXhoBBxd715zYT68wtExiudDk= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:03:05 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 55 HELIAL LOOPS In-Reply-To: <805395.95138.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17449_10714479.1223413385538" References: <48E48E7B.1070309@mhorse.com> <805395.95138.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:03:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17449_10714479.1223413385538 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Happy birthday Rick, It's the Sun who's been rounding you all these 55 years and not the contrary. :-) Cheers, Ra. 2008/10/7 L.Angulo > Bro ive called you personally to gratulate you dont know if u got my > message but happy birthday again! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_17449_10714479.1223413385538 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Happy birthday Rick,
It's the Sun who's been rounding you all these 55 years
and not the contrary.  :-)

Cheers,
Ra.
 


2008/10/7 L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>
Bro ive called you personally to gratulate you dont know if u got my message but happy birthday again!

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom










--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_17449_10714479.1223413385538-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 7 22:47:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14A643BE79; Tue, 7 Oct 2008 22:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:to:in-reply-to :content-type:mime-version:subject:date:references:x-mailer:from; bh=CsjbFAr9Ezwu4+jqXSsOJSMU5a27I0XKRCqk3HxmmeI=; b=Ivv7rDewrqZj/fwmwkt3wJU2LSHo03OIFUbpPP8Smod9lco+YBt3WmJQvlW8zwL9Oo wXIi3xdFQtfDGegese/xTXo/RvH4LkZJ9nv11DRn6icCCMcc/2FY0XQoStJwJMg8r73u 9pQjG+xlPb5fqP12Hp9HxtizhRLzSQAndzqSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:to:in-reply-to:content-type:mime-version:subject:date :references:x-mailer:from; b=lOfO3QurEPIA6ddNj++aj4NuO++f3KKtb1PEVVtU0wfIKUQzoym82G6VFmUNJpJKZS Da2GnNS0gkpbj39n3p8ZqbVe2Zqk9vj0xxk87EM2siUflKX5pDA8LT/4eGd31fu7d9Wp ZrVldSnwvszj9/t9QCqZcUHvRVklHbBEqgWxU= Message-Id: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-299331455 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 23:47:47 +0100 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) From: Daniel Hegarty Resent-Message-ID: <1kIROC.A.X6D.Yc-6IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 22:47:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-299331455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys, Firstly just to say thanks so much for all the help, i've never seen anything like this level of support for a broken piece of gear anywhere else! Unfortunately my woes continue! So I've re-seated all the SIMMS and EPROMS and it seems i've solved one issue while creating another! Now when i go into test mode and output the 60hz test signal, it works perfectly, no static or distortion whatsoever. But i'm now caught in the boot-up loop with the LOOP IV text just going round and round. Matthias mentioned a square chip, but I can't see one on the board. There's a square metal covering that may contain it underneath but I don't know how I would safely remove the covering. Could anyone point me to this square chip or how i might go about removing the cover (if i need to!). Again, thanks so much! Really unbelievable. Daniel On 7 Oct 2008, at 19:06, Matthias Grob wrote: > this means that the processor and most of the digital part runs > and possibly the CODEC does not (the other square chip) > it starts up at one crystal frequency and then switches to the other > at the end of the loop circus, which is when your crashes now. > > > On 7 Oct 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > >> Hey Matthias, >> >> Thanks for you fast reply! >> >> Unfortunately things have gone from bad to worse. I knocked on all >> the chips and gently manipulated the board but nothing seemed to >> make a difference. When I put it into test mode and generated the >> 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted hiss! >> >> I re-seated all the EPROMS without any difficulty, and they've all >> sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. But..... now when it >> boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on the display and >> then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle endlessly! >> >> Oh dear...... >> >> Thanks again >> Daniel >> >> >> On 7 Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote: >> >>> EPROMs have labels on them... >>> any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better not take it >>> out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then pushed back >>> its harder with the two square chips, since you can only insert a >>> fine thing in two corner and the socket may be forced... there is >>> a special tool for those. >>> contact spray is another method. >>> since its working correctly sometimes, a bad contact is quite likely >>> often it can be produced or "fixed" by just bending the board or >>> hitting on it in different places (softly drop the back of a screw >>> driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad spot\ >>> >>> good luck! >>> and sorry for the confusion >>> some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, so "new" is >>> relative... >>> Matthias >>> >>> >>> On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >>> >>>> I can't recall where they are right now. Whenever I had to >>>> reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was >>>> holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to >>>> find the two things already on the board that looked like the new >>>> ones. Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm >>>> unable to find one online. >>>> >>>> TH >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty >>> > wrote: >>>> This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how >>>> would i go about re-seating them? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> D >>>> >>>> >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-4-299331455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
this means that the processor = and most of the digital part runs
and possibly the CODEC does not = (the other square chip)
it starts up at one crystal frequency = and then switches to the other at the end of the loop circus, which is = when your crashes now.


On 7 Oct = 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote:

Hey = Matthias,

Thanks for you fast = reply!

Unfortunately things have gone from bad = to worse. I knocked on all the chips and gently manipulated the board = but nothing seemed to make a difference. When I put it into test mode = and generated the 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted = hiss!

I re-seated all the EPROMS without any = difficulty, and they've all sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. = But..... now when it boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on = the display and then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle = endlessly!

Oh = dear......

Thanks = again
Daniel


On 7 = Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote:

EPROMs have labels on = them... 
any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better = not take it out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then = pushed back
its harder with the two square chips, since you = can only insert a fine thing in two corner and the socket may be = forced... there is a special tool for those.
contact spray is = another method.
since its working correctly sometimes, a bad = contact is quite likely
often it can be produced or "fixed" by = just bending the board or hitting on it in different places (softly drop = the back of a screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad = spot\

good luck!
and sorry for the = confusion
some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, = so "new" is = relative...
Matthias


On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote:

I can't recall where they are right now.  Whenever I = had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was = holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find = the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones.  = Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find = one online.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, = 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
This will sound stupid = but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating = them?

Thanks
D



<= /div>


<= /div>= --Apple-Mail-4-299331455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 01:51:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C07B3BE80; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 01:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0QRJQ8EfC48kn14zEGY8R4U/bGDv0zTPiQCPlM0lXNw=; b=hZjCBX2ifZzKDx9EflcRL4VKAUdOKQrurw+HX3X5n7SSfFD84L+wsZBby8TeIoG/Ut OxuwC1jaxlUBQUqPAy0rOc1eJfLEi30CNmKce+HRfnuKZKoRjj+BKFxbHb07ZfEIjNKD vlXwtICS2zFL9MI8bQ8nC/QtKzrY25onh2b9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=graihKQrZl+EeqZtyydSYtqzyO+Hmg7c3MOIZ76DP27hmq4a3IeiXJ6I7HYoxmtMHf ofyGvKgTL0VNdTwpStCYWq7lba6N8MeP46eQHkZzDelaCEZUUTqfHPg9uqBrbkTbt+Ya gbrzESSNNB2xuhY6vN2/giR+qLB6GWBr6c5kI= Message-ID: <4759e5740810071851j1f4a8425hab21ff7fbb6b89bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:51:05 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AN ARTICLE IN THE NEW YORK TIMES THAT MENTIONS LOOPING (AT LEAST BRIEFLY) In-Reply-To: <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_71558_26646350.1223430665442" References: <25f745bc6115f7b901cda6a2733b5710@charter.net> <48E925A3.1020902@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 01:51:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_71558_26646350.1223430665442 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Caleb joins me often in my string quartet as violist, and we are close friends and colleagues, and he is one of my favorite musicians. He does great work as a composer and violinist, AND countertenor. Also coming from the classical camp, he is one generation younger than me, and it's wonderful that he just got a Times article all to himself! I heartily recommend his band, *itsnotyouitsme*... Give a listen, all tracks are just electric violin and guitar, live looping. Eventually you'll hear some tracks from Caleb and myself, I hope. We've been trying to get something together for awhile. He uses a loopstation, I believe, or at least I think I saw one last night. And yes, Daryl, this multi-genre identity began for me in about 1989, and it's amazing to see it trickle down through the conservatory training. It still seems like there are only a few of us at a time that expand while still IN school, however. Caleb was one of those guys, and I'm beginning to see more and more folks coming out of school with multi-genre guns blazing, lol. http://myspace.com/itsnotyouitsme Best to all... On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > thanks for posting this, Ted. I know I'm happy to grow up at a time where > it's become more common for people to be active in different genres. I take > a lot of inspiration from people like Nels Cline and Mike Patton, who do > everything from pop/rock to out improv, and have it all stand up as good > music. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > At 28, Mr. Burhans has pursued a career path so logical that it seems >> almost foolproof. Just sing, compose and master several instruments (besides >> the violin he plays viola, guitar, bass, keyboards and percussion) and the >> New York freelance world is your oyster. But this is a new development. >> Until recently, the conventional wisdom went, musicians with diverse talents >> should specialize: decide whether they are better suited to composing or >> performing, singing or playing an instrument, working in classical music or >> a variety of pop. >> >> And while most young musicians still make the traditional choices and >> scramble to find work in freelance ensembles until they have established >> themselves as recitalists or chamber players, others are seeking to >> diversify. Mr. Burhans's generation is the third to come of age during the >> rock era, and where conservatories once taught only classical music, most >> now offer courses and even degrees in jazz and rock, recording technology >> and the music industry itself. And musicians who grew up hearing everything >> from Mozart and Ligeti to Wilco and Radiohead are less inclined than their >> elders to compartmentalize their passions. >> > > -- In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, Then on to California with Meredith Monk. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_71558_26646350.1223430665442 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Caleb joins me often in my string quartet as violist, and = we are close friends and colleagues, and he is one of my favorite musicians= . He does great work as a composer and violinist, AND countertenor. &n= bsp;Also coming from the classical camp, he is one generation younger than = me, and it's wonderful that he just got a Times article all to himself!=  I heartily recommend his band, itsnotyouitsme... Give a liste= n, all tracks are just electric violin and guitar, live looping. Eventually= you'll hear some tracks from Caleb and myself, I hope.  We've= been trying to get something together for awhile.  He uses a loopstat= ion, I believe, or at least I think I saw one last night. And yes, Daryl, t= his multi-genre identity began for me in about 1989, and it's amazing t= o see it trickle down through the conservatory training.  It still see= ms like there are only a few of us at a time that expand while still IN sch= ool, however.  Caleb was one of those guys, and I'm beginning to s= ee more and more folks coming out of school with multi-genre guns blazing, = lol.    


Best to all...&n= bsp;


On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:= 37 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
thanks for posting this, Ted. I know I'= m happy to grow up at a time where it's become more common for people t= o be active in different genres. I take a lot of inspiration from people li= ke Nels Cline and Mike Patton, who do everything from pop/rock to out impro= v, and have it all stand up as good music.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com<= /a>
www.chinapa= intingmusic.com

At 28, Mr. Burhans has pursued a career path so logical that it seems almos= t foolproof. Just sing, compose and master several instruments (besides the= violin he plays viola, guitar, bass, keyboards and percussion) and the New= York freelance world is your oyster. But this is a new development. Until = recently, the conventional wisdom went, musicians with diverse talents shou= ld specialize: decide whether they are better suited to composing or perfor= ming, singing or playing an instrument, working in classical music or a var= iety of pop.

And while most young musicians still make the traditional choices and scram= ble to find work in freelance ensembles until they have established themsel= ves as recitalists or chamber players, others are seeking to diversify. Mr.= Burhans's generation is the third to come of age during the rock era, and = where conservatories once taught only classical music, most now offer cours= es and even degrees in jazz and rock, recording technology and the music in= dustry itself. And musicians who grew up hearing everything from Mozart and= Ligeti to Wilco and Radiohead are less inclined than their elders to compa= rtmentalize their passions.




--
In New York from the 2n= d to 14th of October,
Then on to California with Meredith Monk.

= http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddrey= noldsmusic

------=_Part_71558_26646350.1223430665442-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 03:12:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38D8E3BE80; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 03:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Cc: Andy Ewen Message-Id: <02F9A2EC-B6E6-49A0-B949-4EA4A7F9E3BC@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-64-315146095 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 00:11:21 -0300 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: <_61AzC.A.GQG.JUC7IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 03:12:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-64-315146095 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Guys, > > Firstly just to say thanks so much for all the help, i've never seen > anything like this level of support for a broken piece of gear > anywhere else! you know, the addict always form support groups and feel compassion if brothers drug is down :-) LOL the anonymous loopers ! > > Unfortunately my woes continue! So I've re-seated all the SIMMS and > EPROMS and it seems i've solved one issue while creating another! > Now when i go into test mode and output the 60hz test signal, it > works perfectly, no static or distortion whatsoever. But i'm now > caught in the boot-up loop with the LOOP IV text just going round > and round. > > Matthias mentioned a square chip, but I can't see one on the board. > There's a square metal covering that may contain it underneath but I > don't know how I would safely remove the covering. Could anyone > point me to this square chip or how i might go about removing the > cover (if i need to!). yes, I forgot that there is a cap over said chip region, in the newer versions (due to CE test) probably not very easy to remove. but dont bother to put it back in place, its just some little radiation, will not affect sound... oh, and its the left cover, I feel. > > Again, thanks so much! Really unbelievable. yes, really... I have been off list for years, but there always have been helpful and lovely souls on this list... and sometimes it cooked, emotions, insights... improvisers you know... :-) youhou, I am codependent! > > Daniel > > > On 7 Oct 2008, at 19:06, Matthias Grob wrote: > >> this means that the processor and most of the digital part runs >> and possibly the CODEC does not (the other square chip) >> it starts up at one crystal frequency and then switches to the >> other at the end of the loop circus, which is when your crashes now. >> >> >> On 7 Oct 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote: >> >>> Hey Matthias, >>> >>> Thanks for you fast reply! >>> >>> Unfortunately things have gone from bad to worse. I knocked on all >>> the chips and gently manipulated the board but nothing seemed to >>> make a difference. When I put it into test mode and generated the >>> 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted hiss! >>> >>> I re-seated all the EPROMS without any difficulty, and they've all >>> sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. But..... now when it >>> boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on the display >>> and then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle endlessly! >>> >>> Oh dear...... >>> >>> Thanks again >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> On 7 Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> >>>> EPROMs have labels on them... >>>> any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better not take it >>>> out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then pushed back >>>> its harder with the two square chips, since you can only insert a >>>> fine thing in two corner and the socket may be forced... there is >>>> a special tool for those. >>>> contact spray is another method. >>>> since its working correctly sometimes, a bad contact is quite >>>> likely >>>> often it can be produced or "fixed" by just bending the board or >>>> hitting on it in different places (softly drop the back of a >>>> screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad spot\ >>>> >>>> good luck! >>>> and sorry for the confusion >>>> some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, so "new" is >>>> relative... >>>> Matthias >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can't recall where they are right now. Whenever I had to >>>>> reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was >>>>> holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to >>>>> find the two things already on the board that looked like the >>>>> new ones. Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since >>>>> I'm unable to find one online. >>>>> >>>>> TH >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty >>>> > wrote: >>>>> This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and >>>>> how would i go about re-seating them? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> D >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-64-315146095 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 7 Oct 2008, at = 19:47, Daniel Hegarty wrote:


Daniel


On 7 = Oct 2008, at 19:06, Matthias Grob wrote:

this means that the processor = and most of the digital part runs
and possibly the CODEC does not = (the other square chip)
it starts up at one crystal frequency = and then switches to the other at the end of the loop circus, which is = when your crashes now.


On 7 Oct = 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote:

Hey = Matthias,

Thanks for you fast = reply!

Unfortunately things have gone from bad = to worse. I knocked on all the chips and gently manipulated the board = but nothing seemed to make a difference. When I put it into test mode = and generated the 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted = hiss!

I re-seated all the EPROMS without any = difficulty, and they've all sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. = But..... now when it boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on = the display and then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle = endlessly!

Oh = dear......

Thanks = again
Daniel


On 7 = Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote:

EPROMs have labels on = them... 
any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better = not take it out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then = pushed back
its harder with the two square chips, since you = can only insert a fine thing in two corner and the socket may be = forced... there is a special tool for those.
contact spray is = another method.
since its working correctly sometimes, a bad = contact is quite likely
often it can be produced or "fixed" by = just bending the board or hitting on it in different places (softly drop = the back of a screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad = spot\

good luck!
and sorry for the = confusion
some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, = so "new" is = relative...
Matthias


On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote:

I can't recall where they are right now.  Whenever I = had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was = holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find = the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones.  = Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find = one online.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, = 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
This will sound stupid = but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating = them?

Thanks
D



<= /div>


<= /div>
= --Apple-Mail-64-315146095-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 04:52:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6F3113BE80; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 04:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 04:52:14 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_23d935e0-0336-4661-b0ef-bf12936e6f6a_" X-Originating-IP: [4.236.111.41] From: Gemt kjxt To: Subject: RE: Repeater 2.0 & ... Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 04:47:12 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2008 04:47:12.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDEC8790:01C92900] Resent-Message-ID: <6boUhC.A._M.-xD7IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 04:52:15 +0000 (UTC) --_23d935e0-0336-4661-b0ef-bf12936e6f6a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings=2C I've had the Repeater 2.0 update for 5 months. Although the benefits are interesting=2Cthis update has introduced problems= as well: 1.What was previously a continuous record mode(non-overdub) which allowed you to keep loop recording until you were satisfied=2C is now something similar to overdub mode where you hear what you looped in= the last cycle as you are replacing it.!??? Can anyone tell me how this can be useful if you are playing live with othe= r musicians? 2.Since installing this update the repeater has developed a charming habit of crashing while copying to/from a cfc .(loosing copy data & internal memo= ry!).It doesn't happen every time but often enough to make me worry at every gig if tonight's the night. . I have not explored every aspect of the update so if any one has any insigh= t=20 into these problems I would be most grateful. ------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Given all the repetition of rhetoric=2Cregeneration of slogans=2Ccatch phra= sing =2Cetc.in this & all campaigns=2C I think the new title for what we do should be called=20 --Musical Talking Points ^G _________________________________________________________________ Stay up to date on your PC=2C the Web=2C and your mobile phone with Windows= Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/= --_23d935e0-0336-4661-b0ef-bf12936e6f6a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Greetings=2C
I've had the Repeater 2.0 update for 5 months.<= br>Although the benefits are interesting=2Cthis update has introduced probl= ems as well:
1.What was previously a =3B continuous record mode(non-= overdub)
which allowed you to keep loop recording until you were satisfi= ed=2C
is now something =3B similar to overdub mode where you hear wh= at you looped in the last cycle as you are replacing it.!???
Can anyone = tell me how this can be useful if you are playing live with other musicians= ?
2.Since installing this update the repeater has developed a charming h= abit
of crashing while copying to/from a cfc .(loosing copy data &=3B= internal memory!).It doesn't happen every time but often enough to make me= worry
at every gig if tonight's the night.
.
I have not explored = every aspect of the update so if any one has any insight
into these problems I would be most grateful.
 =3B =3B ---------= --------------------------------------------------------------------
Giv= en all the repetition of rhetoric=2Cregeneration of slogans=2Ccatch phrasin= g =2Cetc.in this &=3B all campaigns=2C
I think the new title for what= we do should be called

--Musical Talking Points


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See Now = --_23d935e0-0336-4661-b0ef-bf12936e6f6a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 05:49:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9AE73BE80; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 05:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <57B62B98-4233-488C-9531-CD247EFAE7D6@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-66-324618638 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: New Echoplex Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 02:49:14 -0300 References: <3DCD3F9A-9916-4C02-B19F-232E6FD17D63@gmail.com> <48E6C145.80309@hevanet.com> <03BED1FA-D448-42F3-969C-5332FC649A8F@gmail.com> <55679FB8-1693-4BDA-B662-4663AFBD4BF6@gmail.com> <48EA74F9.9080800@tiscali.co.uk> <49A4CFEE-1D49-455A-9C16-2102454A1981@gmail.com> <98856251-0158-433B-8A4A-99E9AD6F70B3@gmail.com> <447CE1C0-78BC-4B62-9B6A-7F6D7524CE67@atarde.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 05:49:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-66-324618638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 7 Oct 2008, at 19:47, Daniel Hegarty wrote: > Guys, > > Firstly just to say thanks so much for all the help, i've never seen > anything like this level of support for a broken piece of gear > anywhere else! you know, the addict always form support groups and feel compassion if brothers drug is down :-) LOL the anonymous loopers ! > > Unfortunately my woes continue! So I've re-seated all the SIMMS and > EPROMS and it seems i've solved one issue while creating another! > Now when i go into test mode and output the 60hz test signal, it > works perfectly, no static or distortion whatsoever. But i'm now > caught in the boot-up loop with the LOOP IV text just going round > and round. > > Matthias mentioned a square chip, but I can't see one on the board. > There's a square metal covering that may contain it underneath but I > don't know how I would safely remove the covering. Could anyone > point me to this square chip or how i might go about removing the > cover (if i need to!). yes, I forgot that there is a cap over said chip region, in the newer versions (due to CE test) probably not very easy to remove, I never had to do it, I don't have such a new unit. but dont bother to put it back in place, its just some little radiation, will not affect sound... oh, and its under the left cover, I feel. ;-) > > Again, thanks so much! Really unbelievable. yes, really... I have been off list for years, but there always have been helpful and lovely souls on this list... and sometimes it cooked, emotions, insights... improvisers you know... :-) youhou, I am codependent! > > Daniel > > > On 7 Oct 2008, at 19:06, Matthias Grob wrote: > >> this means that the processor and most of the digital part runs >> and possibly the CODEC does not (the other square chip) >> it starts up at one crystal frequency and then switches to the >> other at the end of the loop circus, which is when your crashes now. >> >> >> On 7 Oct 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote: >> >>> Hey Matthias, >>> >>> Thanks for you fast reply! >>> >>> Unfortunately things have gone from bad to worse. I knocked on all >>> the chips and gently manipulated the board but nothing seemed to >>> make a difference. When I put it into test mode and generated the >>> 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted hiss! >>> >>> I re-seated all the EPROMS without any difficulty, and they've all >>> sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. But..... now when it >>> boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on the display >>> and then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle endlessly! >>> >>> Oh dear...... >>> >>> Thanks again >>> Daniel >>> >>> >>> On 7 Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote: >>> >>>> EPROMs have labels on them... >>>> any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better not take it >>>> out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then pushed back >>>> its harder with the two square chips, since you can only insert a >>>> fine thing in two corner and the socket may be forced... there is >>>> a special tool for those. >>>> contact spray is another method. >>>> since its working correctly sometimes, a bad contact is quite >>>> likely >>>> often it can be produced or "fixed" by just bending the board or >>>> hitting on it in different places (softly drop the back of a >>>> screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad spot\ >>>> >>>> good luck! >>>> and sorry for the confusion >>>> some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, so "new" is >>>> relative... >>>> Matthias >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote: >>>> >>>>> I can't recall where they are right now. Whenever I had to >>>>> reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was >>>>> holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to >>>>> find the two things already on the board that looked like the >>>>> new ones. Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since >>>>> I'm unable to find one online. >>>>> >>>>> TH >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty >>>> > wrote: >>>>> This will sound stupid but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and >>>>> how would i go about re-seating them? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> D >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-66-324618638 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 7 Oct 2008, at = 19:47, Daniel Hegarty wrote:


Daniel


On 7 = Oct 2008, at 19:06, Matthias Grob wrote:

this means that the processor = and most of the digital part runs
and possibly the CODEC does not = (the other square chip)
it starts up at one crystal frequency = and then switches to the other at the end of the loop circus, which is = when your crashes now.


On 7 Oct = 2008, at 07:50, Daniel Hegarty wrote:

Hey = Matthias,

Thanks for you fast = reply!

Unfortunately things have gone from bad = to worse. I knocked on all the chips and gently manipulated the board = but nothing seemed to make a difference. When I put it into test mode = and generated the 60hz signal its just a wall of distorted = hiss!

I re-seated all the EPROMS without any = difficulty, and they've all sat in nicely with no bent pins or anything. = But..... now when it boots it just loops around the LOOP IV scrolling on = the display and then re-boots again. It repeats this cycle = endlessly!

Oh = dear......

Thanks = again
Daniel


On 7 = Oct 2008, at 00:06, Matthias Grob wrote:

EPROMs have labels on = them... 
any chip on a socket can be lifted a little (better = not take it out completely) with a screwdriver on the side and then = pushed back
its harder with the two square chips, since you = can only insert a fine thing in two corner and the socket may be = forced... there is a special tool for those.
contact spray is = another method.
since its working correctly sometimes, a bad = contact is quite likely
often it can be produced or "fixed" by = just bending the board or hitting on it in different places (softly drop = the back of a screw driver on chips) and thus aproximate the bad = spot\

good luck!
and sorry for the = confusion
some of the parts went out of fabrication years ago, = so "new" is = relative...
Matthias


On 6 Oct 2008, at 19:07, Travis Hartnett wrote:

I can't recall where they are right now.  Whenever I = had to reseat them, it was in the process of doing an upgrade, so I was = holding the two new EPROMs in hand, so it was a simple matter to find = the two things already on the board that looked like the new ones.  = Maybe someone else can chime in with a diagram, since I'm unable to find = one online.

TH

On Mon, Oct 6, = 2008 at 2:58 PM, Daniel Hegarty <danielphegarty@googlemail.co= m> wrote:
This will sound stupid = but..... which bits are the ERPOMS and how would i go about re-seating = them?

Thanks
D



<= /div>


<= /div>
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FIRST NAME: ________________________ MIDDLE NAME:________________________ LAST NAME: _________________________ ADDRESS: ___________________________ CITY : _____________________________ STATE: _____________________________ ZIP CODE: __________________________ COUNTRY: ___________________________ TELEPHONE: _________________________ AGE: _______________________________ SEX:________________________________ E-MAIL: ____________________________ DO YOU OWN A HOUSEIN USA:_________ PLEASE DO ENTER A VALID PHONE NUMBER AS YOU WILL BE CONTACTED ON PHONE JOHN WHALES Job Processing Unit From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 14:43:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66FE73BE7E; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" , "CT-Collective" Subject: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:43:29 +0200 Message-ID: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckpT57K9SNLH+u7R2iFTU+VRxqGDAAA8qvg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.35; VDF: 7.0.7.7) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 14:43:37 +0000 (UTC) http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=292792586& mt=8 Developed by ambient pioneer Brian Eno and musician / Software designer Peter Chilvers, Bloom explores uncharted territory In the realm of applications for the iPhone and iPod touch. Part instrument, part composition and part artwork, Bloom's innovative controls allow anyone to create elaborate patterns and unique melodies by simply tapping the screen. A generative music player takes over when Bloom is left idle, creating an infinite selection of compositions and their accompanying visualisations. "Bloom is an endless music machine, a music box for the 21 st Century. You can play it. and you can watch it play itself." - Brian Eno Features - 9 different mood settings - Random mood shuffle - Adjustable delay - Shake to clear - Evolve when idle From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 15:07:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 805093BE77; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <018001c92957$843ec6d0$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: , "CT-Collective" References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:07:00 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp6.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Michael, thanks for this update about generative music (or tools...?). Fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" ; "CT-Collective" Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 4:43 PM Subject: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=292792586& > mt=8 > > Developed by ambient pioneer Brian Eno and musician / Software designer > Peter Chilvers, Bloom explores uncharted territory In the realm of > applications for the iPhone and iPod touch. Part instrument, part > composition and part artwork, Bloom's innovative controls allow anyone to > create elaborate patterns and unique melodies by simply tapping the > screen. > A generative music player takes over when Bloom is left idle, creating an > infinite selection of compositions and their accompanying visualisations. > > "Bloom is an endless music machine, a music box for the 21 st Century. You > can play it. and you can watch it play itself." - Brian Eno > > Features > > - 9 different mood settings > - Random mood shuffle > - Adjustable delay > - Shake to clear > - Evolve when idle > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.7.6/1713 - Release Date: 07/10/2008 > 18.40 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 15:29:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 316373BE80; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 89526838/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.164.236/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.164.236 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlwBANhu7EhPRqTs/2dsb2JhbAAIvzaBaoM2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,379,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="89526838" Message-ID: <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:30:39 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:29:12 +0000 (UTC) ...does anyone have a link to that which can be viewed without installing i-Tunes? (well, I suppose if you have i-Tunes already you won't notice, but all I'm getting is invites to download it) Incidentally, that's the same Peter Chilvers that played at the first Cambridge UK Loopfest. andy butler Michael Peters wrote: > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=292792586& > mt=8 > > Developed by ambient pioneer Brian Eno and musician / Software designer > Peter Chilvers, Bloom explores uncharted territory In the realm of > applications for the iPhone and iPod touch. Part instrument, part > composition and part artwork, Bloom's innovative controls allow anyone to > create elaborate patterns and unique melodies by simply tapping the screen. > A generative music player takes over when Bloom is left idle, creating an > infinite selection of compositions and their accompanying visualisations. > > "Bloom is an endless music machine, a music box for the 21 st Century. You > can play it. and you can watch it play itself." - Brian Eno > > Features > > - 9 different mood settings > - Random mood shuffle > - Adjustable delay > - Shake to clear > - Evolve when idle > > From reply.houseofgreen6@gmail.com Wed Oct 8 15:39:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 9159 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:39:23 UTC Received: from linux2008.puntosistemi.it (ns1.derthona.com [217.18.103.82]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C523BE75; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from libertytwo.puntosistemi.it (libertytwo.puntosistemi.it [217.18.103.83]) by linux2008.puntosistemi.it (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m98D8qvB017395; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:08:53 +0200 Received: from User [208.101.27.244] by libertytwo.puntosistemi.it with ESMTP (SMTPD-10.01) id AFAF0E30; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:03:43 +0200 Reply-To: From: "HOUSE OF GREEN TEXTILES AND FABRICS." 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JOB TASKS If you choose to join HOUSE OF GREEN TEXTILES AND FABRICS. as a representative, your basic task will consist of checking emails, processing orders and receiving payments from our customers on our behalf. MAIN REQUIREMENT *18 years or older, *Responsible, *Ready to work 3-4 hours per week., *With PC knowledge, *E-mail and internet experience (minimal) I hope to have informed you correctly and wait to hear from you soon. if you are interested,Simply reply this email with the following information. FIRST NAME: ________________________ MIDDLE NAME:________________________ LAST NAME: _________________________ ADDRESS: ___________________________ CITY : _____________________________ STATE: _____________________________ ZIP CODE: __________________________ COUNTRY: ___________________________ TELEPHONE: _________________________ AGE: _______________________________ SEX:________________________________ E-MAIL: ____________________________ DO YOU OWN A HOUSEIN USA:_________ PLEASE DO ENTER A VALID PHONE NUMBER AS YOU WILL BE CONTACTED ON PHONE JOHN WHALES Job Processing Unit From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 15:53:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 697723BE7F; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:53:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Xwm71i0gUPHzrhRn7ksjVlKo1k1cf/pMQX+TJdGMs9M=; b=THxtRP/nmJjyX8CTkICg4Rp7Nc7js1oQ6GPx/uXY1SssZ3uVvSvBJYGgs0stP4HEMZ vx6TlrpNYxgaFh0O6dIIqugEZo7OBMO8O4OBBR1d758PLRwQypd19Qlel8xUdmcAtK7l 0W6JR3Biwg7tQgjjHQKoUvorAlpVZr+KtbWQg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=oTfCuzeNv6jHgm3Fgk95RK0m439oIDLoOjA8ifNVBIxA1Ihd3vHgnou19iZ0yAdaCk M33ogO1XV0voNeuP7GusWPu6vmw03mUb5dG//7N4jQNYVcp2TcjRGEShjYGsFTJC/ssZ DgVk4ZwuvaaaLgpVdK5SHgklibyKrLfiTm1qs= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:53:29 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone In-Reply-To: <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 15:53:32 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM, andy butler wrote: > ...does anyone have a link to that which can be viewed without installing > i-Tunes? You're supposed to install Bloom on either an iPhone are an iPod Touch. > Incidentally, that's the same Peter Chilvers that played at the first > Cambridge UK Loopfest. Most certainly. List member Os told me about him the other day, as I was writing an article on generative music tools (among other topics). Os sent me this link to his friend: http://www.peterchilvers.com/generative.php Per > Michael Peters wrote: >> >> >> http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=292792586& >> mt=8 Developed by ambient pioneer Brian Eno and musician / Software >> designer >> Peter Chilvers, Bloom explores uncharted territory In the realm of >> applications for the iPhone and iPod touch. Part instrument, part >> composition and part artwork, Bloom's innovative controls allow anyone to >> create elaborate patterns and unique melodies by simply tapping the >> screen. >> A generative music player takes over when Bloom is left idle, creating an >> infinite selection of compositions and their accompanying visualisations. >> >> "Bloom is an endless music machine, a music box for the 21 st Century. You >> can play it. and you can watch it play itself." - Brian Eno >> >> Features >> >> - 9 different mood settings >> - Random mood shuffle >> - Adjustable delay >> - Shake to clear >> - Evolve when idle >> >> > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 16:54:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47E813BE75; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 774 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:54:51 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: sooper love Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 17:41:55 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Server-Quench: 04d6c175-9558-11dd-aecc-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwVVfTUdGxpo UEhBUlNVHgFpCxkH SBkZTB12aQRHfWB5 ZVlgW3JeQ0Q0KE91 NRgpEW8GYGVobmRR WEFaOQNQJAUZfxhA d1l6UXsQYGRTMmcx EgQ4emhpZGUAcSkE GVkDcUQJRkETEyR0 QxccEF1yVUkCWShb X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1378/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:54:52 +0000 (UTC) i've been on tour in the UK for the last couple weeks and just wanted to report that my SooperLooper-inside-Ableton setup has been working like a real champ. i'm almost afraid to say too much in case i jinx it (only half-way through this tour!), but i've been REALLY, REALLY happy. SooperLooper hasn't crashed or glitched. its flexible. i feel more confident about my looping setup than ever before. rock. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 18:28:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0BF33BE73; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 86136504/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.164.236/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.164.236 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjoCAMqY7EhPRqTs/2dsb2JhbAAIjkSwX4FqgzY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,379,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="86136504" Message-ID: <48ECFC12.4060706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:29:38 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 18:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:30 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> ...does anyone have a link to that which can be viewed without installing >> i-Tunes? > > You're supposed to install Bloom on either an iPhone are an iPod Touch. was just wondering if they'd figured out how to do key changes, or some other innovation to make it a more advanced than Koan. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 22:28:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 861FA3BE7B; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:28:13 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1ga9++6PU71+GtW2bgp6PZNea0LKLXxhFi7JHcNlmPP1A7z2xklelZvwhuJc/M2yZaCC787NyL/pZP/tirkX+H9pKig2Fr3krIIV+US5OrfXl3ulM26QIRhoJ4FxxBpVaQXSAyCXi2Z+dT7FXvQ5av3jSL0gwK/aNoJpVRpS5j4=; X-YMail-OSG: 5w1h_mwVM1mkcn4diMATh2Rh7IVWwHAkWDkV6W48Rm.hL0h4Rtm8KRCmO0TR_LHnbxQre0Fx49AgZEfOwfOcErIodm9El8_drMjCte.RS.ytPpjR.VW2BwKruSj2ldjZ_ju5mqaKajLmg8jq0LCIvrxK X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:21:32 +0000 (GMT) From: MATTHEW STEVENS Subject: New looping To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <208518.841.qm@web86102.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:28:14 +0000 (UTC) http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=3Dblog.ListAll&friendID=3D1301= 22928 Hey guys New looping action - 16 minute track EDP - DL4 - ALESIS PERCUSSION PAD - WH= AMMY PEDAL - JAGMASTER Matt=20 www.mattstevensguitar.com mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 8 23:18:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97C203BE75; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=VRLBrVSUShAIFspSa0AEJz4suEAWzYkEkifbfH9so9M=; b=PQLzsktUcXbvbk4E0NXKDj343KdsxfSfRWzNIJ2Ubb+yx2+jU7mNMhwwSfuTZcpnb6 D+o/eBTDNvzr1JDRdPtXLHHb8+nxJkx6VEQy/aP40WATMST50oaj7fYHb/gbx8pNGDwT lZIcoWjDTCLF24cwQeanfN/2oSycdGp4FGTXY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=b8QYI1mOecle7e6NJdVbu3HBfBpFrxNy4cj7BObX9aejv7xiNxQK9NxvVhwHQ5dffo rZMp32BVeNTWPIDRbsBP+J44nAAUJsK8o5MGvrUv7Rzsmdix7BJhiv8qsYBmyfsf2TGV h6KLNuWcoaiXjFBDb4DsvsklYEPb+1H6RQhRs= Message-ID: <101191640810081618g4d53210o5ffd558338459dff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:18:19 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9daae0295e208168 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Gosh, that Peter Chilvers stuff is beautiful. > Most certainly. List member Os told me about him the other day, as I > was writing an article on generative music tools (among other topics). > Os sent me this link to his friend: > http://www.peterchilvers.com/generative.php > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 02:09:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7755F3BE79; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 02:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=rvTLdqDsSH8CPqEPxP0dLcrcmW1MwSoYdRY0/5xS9vmKqC5QDKN36LASoqn2pMNEf2oqAOvsf/jry4smvNApMRpvpzJYW6fgQvl/iN2m21uFkXM8p3ohQQ+iIHNxJCEY7t3GALrgJv7Xg1bgY7XZfUSXXy8Z/MisLChBeo8bwUM=; X-YMail-OSG: T0D3n9kVM1kPE0DEjtGHk74z5r4ualFBuOX6wZkSeJZVek_wrASL4Ldhagh8QrnpMnx_w39WwsEpd7SacfhsJC0AQMomdjaC6N4azJXEnhTzHFNz0HXT3YVD4N3Ul27oad8Bg3atqPKZOnv4k7XrmfT4.A-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:09:48 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: for sale/trade: RC20XL To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1134865822-1223518188=:42121" Message-ID: <877996.42121.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 02:09:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-1134865822-1223518188=:42121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 I'm looking to unload my RC20XL.=A0 I've been finding the DL4 more to my liking and would like a second one - don't know why but to me four buttons aren't as confusing as two pedals... =A0 Info about it here: http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/RC-20XL/=A0and he= re http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/RC20XL/Boss-RC20XL.html It is pretty much new-in-box though I've had it for a few years - the only = things you won't get if you bought it new is the plastic bag that the unit itself was wrapped in and the factory-supplied batteries.=A0 = This unit has not=A0touched my floor or been touched by my shoes as I've been using it table-top. =A0 Trades will be considered.=A0 I'll swap it straight-up for a good condition= DL4 or any other similarly valued combination of pedals/effects but especially looking for a nice reverb and/or volume pedal. =A0 Other than that, best cash offer over $200 takes it.=A0 Unless it's a swap,= buyer pays for shipping (I live in SW Ontario). Ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A=0A=0A --0-1134865822-1223518188=:42121 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 
I'm looking to unload my RC20XL.  I've been finding the DL4 more to my liking and would like a second one - don't know why but to me four buttons aren't as confusing as two pedals...
 

It is pretty much new-in-box though I've had it for a few years - the only things you won't get if you bought it new is the plastic bag that the unit itself was wrapped in and the factory-supplied batteries.  This unit has not touched my floor or been touched by my shoes as I've been using it table-top.
 
Trades will be considered.  I'll swap it straight-up for a good condition DL4 or any other similarly valued combination of pedals/effects but especially looking for a nice reverb and/or volume pedal.
 
Other than that, best cash offer over $200 takes it.  Unless it's a swap, buyer pays for shipping (I live in SW Ontario).


Ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog


--0-1134865822-1223518188=:42121-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 02:18:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9BCB03BE7E; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 02:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=Xz5STxp+IMeoMKvYeApW675JD4pBoxdrypJAjCpR2Rg=; b=Xg1bAhfGlulePPu8vBzfdQTXSIwmIfS86/aDd8IHShKBY35ff9Uk9EXJe5gQh8/Jws X97OYAlZR/JqI8zCsEuNmrYh17KZn/mPp75v2rIgtTIKhOrKYM3npb/o9odyt45BK5VG DgROKFOhWdpBpBAyHxB1BmrNPAoQPmcgAzvlM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=dC5IYfOuCC5T9d+SiLbYV8JgVkMCq6Z9YeKfseUjtXTBdKM+vh1mXuAOvFYTclSVK9 w1JmrehDTcuxiQzUnDVH8H+ijz8kOqStO0qNjlXd50JNxzsZGfizgYXbae+79sKmhbU3 rClnQBRDkn5xpyB1qPoHS/2sk4MM7y56m1DE8= Message-ID: <101191640810081918p1135c8e5r3ab203e2e9793e3d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:18:47 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone In-Reply-To: <101191640810081618g4d53210o5ffd558338459dff@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640810081618g4d53210o5ffd558338459dff@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b67619170dc92f6c Resent-Message-ID: <8dUMfC.A.8o.JoW7IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 02:18:49 +0000 (UTC) Where Chilvers is subtle, I am anything but.... this discussion brings to mind all that remains of an interactive Max patch that I was playing (in the most meta of senses) at the time is this recording: http://www.warrensirota.com/SoloStuff/DarkeningOfTheLight.mp3. It was a midi-generating program, realized through an Ensoniq VFX. that 6-minute generated piece is part of fairly long collage that I assembled some years ago, btw, that consists mainly of loops I made when writing the first EDP manual. i was using a variety of guitar processors that were passing through my hands as I was writing ad copy and reviews and such. That can be heard at http://www.warrensirota.com/SoloStuff/Hexagrams2.mp3 Hope you enjoy, Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 02:30:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 394E73BE7E; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 02:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Qmyjyh06IYZu/58fohBiM4BqgmsgSrPDrhJNvRFZj78=; b=WfeooaC787TFqyLcsALvuig0xZmUx1dP30eR3V4O1HqdmpEfW3h7XMSeQ7GX8Vx2L5 lUjSzdGmBuBAVpqYPk6bMpB01CySVBkh4rEZB011QdCAY236AR+b9UB91Xx2G/XCRS7U Epx57GIzrbU/NkUt1bITACrOdQ98rUgE9QIFo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=U533jdW6+NTATBF6zH7VYqwTGFkqSNZFrjUzxhGDzSTARJ1qB2rH3cSTBrJCQgHhu8 JMIvICmkLgQ88GPUn/ZlD8I67M3EqGC5wiXYoV20yP8GpM1/1LerQgjWmK+fmMJQxgjK IBZPUV1eB8kx8DOcnV7PwWLgBzDkg8fcwvhjk= Message-ID: <6df9336a0810081930n5de2fee1g956bd4d40c223280@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2008 19:30:44 -0700 From: skincage To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #738 In-Reply-To: <20081009021850.0EC573BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081009021850.0EC573BE87@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 02:30:45 +0000 (UTC) Repeater glitches are hydra-like. When it works it's a dream machine, but you're usually dreaming when it works. I'd recommend the repeater users group on Yahoo, lots of folks there including Peter Toms who as far as I know is the go-to guy for repair on Electrix machines. Jon > Greetings, > I've had the Repeater 2.0 update for 5 months. > Although the benefits are interesting,this update has introduced problems as well: > 1.What was previously a continuous record mode(non-overdub) > which allowed you to keep loop recording until you were satisfied, > is now something similar to overdub mode where you hear what you looped in the last cycle as you are replacing it.!??? > Can anyone tell me how this can be useful if you are playing live with other musicians? > 2.Since installing this update the repeater has developed a charming habit > of crashing while copying to/from a cfc .(loosing copy data & internal memory!).It doesn't happen every time but often enough to make me worry > at every gig if tonight's the night. > . > I have not explored every aspect of the update so if any one has any insight > into these problems I would be most grateful. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 05:56:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 345163BE79; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 05:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-411436771 From: Andreas Willers Subject: London appearance Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:56:12 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8398/Thu Oct 9 05:58:03 2008 on mail-in-16.arcor-online.net X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <0rQUTB.A.VQB.B0Z7IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 05:56:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-411436771 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Dear list, I'll be in London next week for some gigs with my Berlin based improv =20= trio Grid Mesh including lots of granular loop mangling: Grid Mesh Oct. 13 The Oxford 256 Kentish Town Road, London Start 8:30 =A35/=A34 Grid Mesh Oct. 14 The Others 6-8 Manor Road (above Turkish snooker hall), Stoke Newington, London N16 Start 8:30 - 1 set then open jam ----Thursday night I'll be playing solo w. loops and jamming at the =20 "Not Applicable" series somewhere close to Waterloo Station, don't =20 know details yet Also I am part of this band (great chamber jazz, no loops tho): Tom Arthurs' Subtopia Oct. 19 F-IRE Festival @ Kings Place, 90 York Way, London, N1 9AG http://www.kingsplace.co.uk/music/opening-festival/tom-arthurs-subtopia 2:30 in the afternoon, =A35.50 Grid Mesh is moving on to play the Sibiu Jazz & More in Romania on =20 Sunday 20th, any loopes out there? Regards, Andreas --Apple-Mail-1-411436771 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear = list,

I'll be in London next week for some gigs with = my Berlin based improv trio Grid Mesh including lots of granular loop = mangling:

Grid Mesh = Oct. 13
The Oxford=A0
256 Kentish Town Road, London
Start 8:30
=A35/=A34

Grid Mesh Oct. 14
The = Others
6-8 Manor Road (above = Turkish snooker hall), Stoke Newington, London N16
Start 8:30 -=A01 set then open jam

----Thursday = night I'll be playing solo w. loops and jamming at the "Not Applicable" = series somewhere close to Waterloo Station, don't know details = yet

Also I am part of this band (great chamber jazz, no = loops tho):
Tom Arthurs' Subtopia Oct. = 19
F-IRE Festival @ Kings Place, 90 York = Way, London, N1 9AG
2:30 in the = afternoon, =A35.50

Grid Mesh is = moving on to play the Sibiu Jazz & More in Romania on Sunday 20th, = any loopes out there?

Regards, = Andreas

= --Apple-Mail-1-411436771-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 07:53:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2E1D3BE7F; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:53:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=rf3JzaSS0zwA:10 a=wSQFn9ujHL0A:10 a=pGe3ju02AAAA:8 a=I-wezjglEneEWumxh-sA:9 a=Sr8fNYaCQTe-Flb7Djz_KIIXlS8A:4 a=UD3EFyfc0L8A:10 Message-ID: <48EDB870.1030403@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:53:20 +0200 From: Claude Voit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Mauricio Kagel, composer, born December 24 1931; died September 18 2008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:53:26 +0000 (UTC) http://www.ubu.com/film/kagel.html "old music" :=) enjoy Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 07:58:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF2FF3BE86; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:58:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hrG4UREqtcLvUcSZUQmbpT0o3fhTxvuYEee5SfDMOw0=; b=OCXCinV5HoZBQwv4zF5YoaNXcbUwyiBPY8wUnW4NbvQCe3PT6815G4FkZ+O6G55rzG x81d9y/e5jh1+B1CMG8DiewW7E47TxaMjZQqOC6ZP4r0bdVV3NpmoJpgUbT5KidTOU4a hf6BYiVrbKgHnlRtgC47xeRD+3JgiyeWWI4i8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=vjyclNe3pLSh97wWJRYvpQScKyzrujIY6Ith5j+dD7BSrw5BQO1+OAz7oTlS+S8BWT rgRelXwQ7cCNT/pnWZlV6+hV47XWOn5+AeSGrYiB1/DTn8NJrctw8MOQJ3B2FlUIzzx0 E3Hxp07j0j0ZPw+fQlmybWhn0HnwUhywQmjoo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810090058x12427ce9y77681b24efb67fad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:58:18 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone In-Reply-To: <101191640810081918p1135c8e5r3ab203e2e9793e3d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640810081618g4d53210o5ffd558338459dff@mail.gmail.com> <101191640810081918p1135c8e5r3ab203e2e9793e3d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 07:58:20 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Where Chilvers is subtle, I am anything but.... this discussion brings > to mind all that remains of an interactive Max patch that I was > playing (in the most meta of senses) at the time is this recording: > http://www.warrensirota.com/SoloStuff/DarkeningOfTheLight.mp3. It was > a midi-generating program, realized through an Ensoniq VFX. I'm finding that music interesting! The musical material is definitely sharp, even though the Ensoniq could have cared for some assistance by some other sound devices ;-) > that 6-minute generated piece is part of fairly long collage that I > assembled some years ago, btw, that consists mainly of loops I made > when writing the first EDP manual. i was using a variety of guitar > processors that were passing through my hands as I was writing ad copy > and reviews and such. That can be heard at > http://www.warrensirota.com/SoloStuff/Hexagrams2.mp3 Nice stuff as well! It sound like you're having lots of fun inside those MIDI boxes! The sparse guitar part is beautiful (playing over a looper) In all this stuff I like the dramatic attitude. The feel of instant transition sort of makes up for some of the cheesy MIDI box sounds, even making those sounds work well musically with a certain tongue-in-cheek attitude. Holy Crap!!! Listening while typiing.... I just heard Godzilla Step On Bambi!!!! Awesome! You don't hear stuff like this on Swedish radio! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 08:26:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB9A43BE84; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=yKnNXZdxRQ/4kRtLaK6aqCDbxT4lXr/DJz8CBcT0Z2w=; b=BzvkIhzOlkiE4VfIJG5Y3Jcmij/fHZ6OcjdsLU3dMIX/EbI9zwk9ENhHUKZ7c9JBKm OzFPpgT0U03dqOvrLdN3SDvf+pIytgyUQOatjlLjI62p+vNr4uYTzOFmiKfcPW8rtN7/ 9GKF+BDC3RunOBRySvUPdMjIdoarwCzRVIMuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fC9Jlx4pfVpxqZIsTrZHMF3Amkgi+AwznL/XcC/HEVY3Y064VCR1uqcUd7H1hgVcY3 NTsm+sknbEY6R3buYHhN+2Sluff9EiUXcqqyIJMnV32is7xGH8j26qLJXo5HeF8J/zSp mBgJId3msj96EUG+HPCml5NzzX6qN6LIeTLDk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810090126n698389e0r8daf16efc7f8ca69@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:26:04 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 2008 Festival of Live Looping, Norwich, UK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi friends, Just a quick reminder of the looping related activities that will take place in Norwich on Saturday 11th and Wednesday 15th. More info at http://www.andybutler.com/ (scroll down that page) Know what - Every list member should go to England and check out Andreas i London on the 13th and us in Norwich! The Brits are nifty so I bet they keep a tube train looping London - Norwich. Then we all go to Santa Cruz together for the grand finale!!! (dreams sweet dreams....) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 08:40:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A16A3BE87; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=r+enwtDUKz6lrMJnE93DV3muLq7KwfPIq5e6oCZDWrk=; b=Eld6kD4UBxCifE/uG4UR4qY99hjjEG1S2/gOcc9fgyH8ZQo4nGe7JbCQA0WYySpEVr CaFSZSj42YydxEI9Y3JFS1N0POlk7h7YJJh+g6cGcLiA1UdhNmGf5rW/SfDnZdNbRnY5 UqfT/BwdEO25/ETOp0aLXpXbbYZDkUw3CmLf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=NmjF4x59VJCjVlgIRzIBlbIYnDgzPWyVR9rrzQb3E27GMWYgHNkLeI1sae3hDCT7Y1 lIrRlCyzP+JAoJElqhawT3yVbfhzUAomWp4O/nYJ4rTOnhcOw5LNX3Yscn0aDrraQQbX RULZ6v74w0ZTUU98sqWQLdDvRbfMWbYI9NADs= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810090140m1c03ec47p97566dcb46e63c77@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:40:02 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Public Beta of Numerology 2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_63699_30544108.1223541602451" Resent-Message-ID: <-uETSD.A.SJ.jNc7IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:40:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_63699_30544108.1223541602451 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Guys, A short reminder that a public beta for Numerology 2.0 is offered for free now at http://www.five12.com/ What is Numerology? > > Numerology is a modular music sequencing and audio plugin environment for > Mac OS X. It takes the step sequencing and modulation metaphors established > by the analog sequencers of the 70's, and implements them in a structured > and highly interactive software environment designed for experimentation, > improvisation and live performance. By using Numerology in conjunction with > your choice of Audio Unit plugins and hardware synths, you can create an > open compositional environment that is truly your own. > I've had a lot of fun using the Num 2.0 beta as the AU host for Augustus Loop. What you can do then is to set up a bunch of sequencer modules to spit control data into the looper to have it go totally nuts with whatever audio you play into it. My choice of Augustus Loop is because I don't know of any other OS X looper that is totally stable when mangling pitch/speed/rate intervals while overdubbing, reversing etc. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com ------=_Part_63699_30544108.1223541602451 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Guys,

A short reminder that a public beta for Numerology 2.0 is offered for free now at
http://www.five12.com/

What is Numerology?

Numerology is a modular music sequencing and audio plugin environment for Mac OS X. It takes the step sequencing and modulation metaphors established by the analog sequencers of the 70's, and implements them in a structured and highly interactive software environment designed for experimentation, improvisation and live performance. By using Numerology in conjunction with your choice of Audio Unit plugins and hardware synths, you can create an open compositional environment that is truly your own.


I've had a lot of fun using the Num 2.0 beta as the AU host for Augustus Loop. What you can do then is to set up a bunch of sequencer modules to spit control data into the looper to have it go totally nuts with whatever audio you play into it. My choice of Augustus Loop is because I don't know of any other OS X looper that is totally stable when mangling pitch/speed/rate intervals while overdubbing, reversing etc.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------=_Part_63699_30544108.1223541602451-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 09:04:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 329523BE8E; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hLAVRwrEEc051hCxYQdQte35vxNL68kddDEn6gnDX4Q=; b=Joo52W0l5Prhx3GNbWYKeEteLjMjfmzhQdbYOXof+iDMSspRUJdARFy5xw6SVeZao2 SPh0SI/keDwAQSuMvqsxhhlmYvAhiMTKNMlXFuZV2pgHliVDZj9b6iIjVoMnMi+8Gk5N 1A6mXnIREtBgsLaP+8x3keRIafLNE+z4/o9zo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=f+Uj8rTE3AWwSrXYKF5XZVUNIMIdM7qTHpqthvtOnZoPePtk5FoB/jeNAisNpzH4MC cn30YULks+TVOINYQPBVVVmPN0q5IryA2Uu3IRvSa3JdjcqWJVn3TkSnP8oUeTF3JeQ+ 7MxOESp4U+UmmWbbRiE9K6UdTo7nSFNG8yosE= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:04:29 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Public Beta of Numerology 2.0 In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810090140m1c03ec47p97566dcb46e63c77@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_41887_7430483.1223543069680" References: <66f9cc1e0810090140m1c03ec47p97566dcb46e63c77@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:04:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_41887_7430483.1223543069680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Per.Since reading your past posts I was curious about this host... now's time to spend testing what numerology 2008/10/9 Per Boysen > Hi Guys, > > A short reminder that a public beta for Numerology 2.0 is offered for free > now at > http://www.five12.com/ > > What is Numerology? >> > >> Numerology is a modular music sequencing and audio plugin environment for >> Mac OS X. It takes the step sequencing and modulation metaphors established >> by the analog sequencers of the 70's, and implements them in a structured >> and highly interactive software environment designed for experimentation, >> improvisation and live performance. By using Numerology in conjunction with >> your choice of Audio Unit plugins and hardware synths, you can create an >> open compositional environment that is truly your own. >> > > > I've had a lot of fun using the Num 2.0 beta as the AU host for Augustus > Loop. What you can do then is to set up a bunch of sequencer modules to spit > control data into the looper to have it go totally nuts with whatever audio > you play into it. My choice of Augustus Loop is because I don't know of any > other OS X looper that is totally stable when mangling pitch/speed/rate > intervals while overdubbing, reversing etc. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_41887_7430483.1223543069680 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Thanks Per.
Since reading your past posts I was curious about this host... now's time to spend testing what numerology 

2008/10/9 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi Guys,

A short reminder that a public beta for Numerology 2.0 is offered for free now at
http://www.five12.com/

What is Numerology?

Numerology is a modular music sequencing and audio plugin environment for Mac OS X. It takes the step sequencing and modulation metaphors established by the analog sequencers of the 70's, and implements them in a structured and highly interactive software environment designed for experimentation, improvisation and live performance. By using Numerology in conjunction with your choice of Audio Unit plugins and hardware synths, you can create an open compositional environment that is truly your own.


I've had a lot of fun using the Num 2.0 beta as the AU host for Augustus Loop. What you can do then is to set up a bunch of sequencer modules to spit control data into the looper to have it go totally nuts with whatever audio you play into it. My choice of Augustus Loop is because I don't know of any other OS X looper that is totally stable when mangling pitch/speed/rate intervals while overdubbing, reversing etc.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com





--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_41887_7430483.1223543069680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 09:10:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E34A83BE8E; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48EDCA74.9070300@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:10:12 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Holy loops with John Kenny and Emily White Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Just wanted to point to the Carnyx page of John Kenny, we had a great time in La Tourette and you can hear it... ;-) http://www.carnyxscotland.co.uk/index.php -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 09:10:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05D163BE95; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48EDCA95.5010908@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:10:45 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi envelope generator References: <9ab0c76f0810021117ldb534b9k880e482de28a9147@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 09:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) schrieb: > I already have quite a mammoth rig (4 - 5 DVD players, 3 video mixers, > the wires to connect them, monitor and projector) and I can't see adding > a laptop and a fader box to the rig. Well the point of a laptop is, that you could get rid of the mammoth, all these DVD players and video mixers... Create your tool completely in Max/MSP/Jitter and just carry the laptop, the faderboxes and the projector... ;-) But it won't be prepared instantly (expect a learning curve), though later the setup time for performance will drop dramatically... 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Mr Paul Maple From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 10:45:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99BEA3BE93; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 06:46:44 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48EDE114.8070100@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 10:45:22 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 12:28:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96C1C3BE8F; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=Yp7uIUsvYSZcoCJ9tNmNdnEqaDLFi7daqtbSG16x6s4=; b=hglv0KCvC89ex2fmY7pI0tIfy4nOvCjb2papByvlhQIXkGe5WnOjCiCX2nm2IgiQ8J cKPXBBtnI1JeR8u7qNk3yL4/ykMvCsTe+G3qEHUlD+nplFKS0PFwQ/BumRRioxeZp5Hr PKhMi5Rl9dViqOl5UW7UJs5ZYcDFGFW3oBDDw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=hpP7AVJMvaCi3JPUL39nU8y/VUb7ot5DTsZhSKkDbZyVQ5dnObcNlSe0A5Ppt26YZk Bgli8N9XqzkjVCRqJ3l/+IKhlfToRM4M9OPMTigRmqjH54GEdN1c73T+/XAEYnXqCSg+ RhOIl0JW4VAbCfFd6v9p2jt/PZXqN9zPlaVyY= Message-ID: <101191640810090528s37ea2508sb5c3ad7d64795638@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 08:28:46 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810090058x12427ce9y77681b24efb67fad@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> <101191640810081618g4d53210o5ffd558338459dff@mail.gmail.com> <101191640810081918p1135c8e5r3ab203e2e9793e3d@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810090058x12427ce9y77681b24efb67fad@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9864ace4b6e0fc3a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 12:28:48 +0000 (UTC) thanks so much per - i can always count on you for a thoughtful listen! it means a lot. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:18 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> Where Chilvers is subtle, I am anything but.... this discussion brings >> to mind all that remains of an interactive Max patch that I was >> playing (in the most meta of senses) at the time is this recording: >> http://www.warrensirota.com/SoloStuff/DarkeningOfTheLight.mp3. It was >> a midi-generating program, realized through an Ensoniq VFX. > > > I'm finding that music interesting! The musical material is definitely > sharp, even though the Ensoniq could have cared for some assistance by > some other sound devices ;-) > > >> that 6-minute generated piece is part of fairly long collage that I >> assembled some years ago, btw, that consists mainly of loops I made >> when writing the first EDP manual. i was using a variety of guitar >> processors that were passing through my hands as I was writing ad copy >> and reviews and such. That can be heard at >> http://www.warrensirota.com/SoloStuff/Hexagrams2.mp3 > > Nice stuff as well! It sound like you're having lots of fun inside > those MIDI boxes! The sparse guitar part is beautiful (playing over a > looper) In all this stuff I like the dramatic attitude. The feel of > instant transition sort of makes up for some of the cheesy MIDI box > sounds, even making those sounds work well musically with a certain > tongue-in-cheek attitude. Holy Crap!!! Listening while typiing.... I > just heard Godzilla Step On Bambi!!!! Awesome! You don't hear stuff > like this on Swedish radio! > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 13:59:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ED903BE95; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 776239.18733.bm@omp101.mail.re1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=S3UjnCSiIwVM4Ly7ozEh5ntVeBeCgNiLFONdz+3oIHj4ge6RIy7KtgtKtB8Rn7l2M6A6ZJm5Uo9JsQLs9xXHs8dHc4Yf9TWoRjgLdJbkHgOE8wryljYmRV2cn0MBSPMomjNw4ri0O7OTOXkH1aIFDh669+rSXIODheF1cYZoM8A= ; X-YMail-OSG: p8KjkNsVM1kCRMqsFjihhBwBdSccR94xIpiPJf84KbMUt4dmB9BxkeGLKpVbNvTBhYYFDfPNKCQRXP_RVGe1ii2MotuaOrjL8zzpG.nN6P0dLGbtqOm3VkrtkDhG03fdL9Ra9UWBowbtEOTK8XUKdPHkBWzxMeBzKUpB76Atui1z.8Lcz2jiP7D9Gp4sag-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <021901c92a17$358a24b0$6502a8c0@voo.intra> From: "Ben" To: References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:59:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 13:59:51 +0000 (UTC) Hello Per, Where can we have a look to this article you are speaking about? There seems to be a lot of interest for generative music recently, mainly on phones or portable console. Ben. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" > List member Os told me about him the other day, as I > was writing an article on generative music tools (among other topics). > Os sent me this link to his friend: > http://www.peterchilvers.com/generative.php > > Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 14:41:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C0373BE97; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rRBnjuwasLC/ynsocrMjU66UHFDCANR30C6lHztbKLg=; b=YAM1D4hsUElseke2pyRO9dWnEPzhvKelojfM3pQLwyCrULZqVF/bMT/gDjOgQfExLI PtlWLLPky6zji1bi34alCCPmDRiTur5hQsP98TFMcSycVzH0nTp66veYuMsLWmVpPpAU CqF8LDcezI4Mov39ouXIoUOO6lbHjlMV2ROCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=TjtUtW2JNVp7X+TTyhLdT2CWb8GsEtQ8EuG2ZSy1NCX8h8hYmRLLwlJxvNLJywMbIQ syCmx9Zk397E0l20MR3i6W7aYqKxa2M4stuWda+WFnTCdigJr+nG5m1flScpJa3ZhLVr CTpH+WXD95P/5InljT2JUAn5bE0ubmCsKtTxY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810090741la8eea4dg65a39b6f06a42f32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:41:40 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bloom - generative music app for iPod and iPhone In-Reply-To: <021901c92a17$358a24b0$6502a8c0@voo.intra> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000e01c92954$3ac94370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <48ECD21F.9010806@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810080853r3e50f396mf16ff952f015843b@mail.gmail.com> <021901c92a17$358a24b0$6502a8c0@voo.intra> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:41:42 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Ben wrote: > Hello Per, > > Where can we have a look to this article you are speaking about? Hi Ben, I'm afraid you will have to buy the Swedish paper printed magazine Studio and read it in Swedish http://studio.idg.se/. As for generative software I did a brief round-up on M (Cycliing74), Noatikl (successor to Koan), Liptikl, Mixtikl, Nodal and Tiction. If you google them you will go directly to the source. Per -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 14:42:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 977483BEA0; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Eno Bloom video Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 16:42:43 +0200 Message-ID: <009001c92a1d$4a902a70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckqHUnABRq9gaaHSTeEbnB+L+FShQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.35; VDF: 7.0.7.14) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 14:42:51 +0000 (UTC) http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=GlnljiPCNAI From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 17:26:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D64FD3BE7C; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=ossfMSW1oaDxMum0UHnNu8FXKpXYyqrPb4ALHHt9cig=; b=YJcrIoJICKAORtdxNRIdASQS/u4e8y1unXbzhJTAG6MAGxJl//wlYtO6DgczBG6iKO azMdFe23Sywszra3fNIPzohfWKns+psoZ5DVL0dKuWC73dMKMEo6IuzKP/mYl7kvGe3P JKzHk7JX/bp+yLLtr20iTRW+iS8j222vhsM2Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=HV/0e+WGupv04fhJCh8nJo3jmBzDE6Ny4wxlG76c0u2TQt/Cifm2MC5HEGjHuEk+ku 8nDWtCt1NdGJmLazsWStRJh4ADtTY/7pfxh2K7dWCUZdUeEYC5zZID2AW/qCyIuVhWo5 W2ZtrasUKvc7CbC/jjsWnOr6q4sNspbFza+4M= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:19:03 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: video with some looping interest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 393036af2b3afd2c Resent-Message-ID: <5FzwpC.A.PRC.W7j7IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:26:46 +0000 (UTC) http://www.vimeo.com/1921487 subtle but effective use (if I say so myself) of Ableton Live and Augustus Loop, especially towards the end - pretty much from where the camera turns on me, as it happens, which was serendipitous. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 17:42:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8E63BE88; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=8G4T89L0N9WSN94XEe8r9ukM8aj6gmMociCPcGAG/DU=; b=mIoU5R01iCfsO/HGPNe6QU0d1kuGdT+0DdruLUzfCL8n5t4pShMBdUyZ8xIdp8xS5l 115nT43V6p9ch7nWKhXfnKQLIuIuw9npYnIHD15l1+6g4JN+AzhZ1MF6mLaNwaQh8GBX 5ShBUEVmzJR4XXKHhyNtvMMFJQQbC111JXz60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=sC8jXSi8KgBWMFCvdRjP14AQEStqGlS+he3aqkT3lb6WU8Erd1d1Xl1VlEup6uQVd4 Q3ET/8iror3gB6cpjhldlRHou2hak/J4lr2L9dFsbK3OYCg60N5+HqrZtiEt1B8Ji+fE t9k1o2N9s+MlODNZ/ZCVRXenybG0HOL32mR8A= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810091042r21e4df69p283fe578cefd805c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:42:14 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: video with some looping interest In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:42:16 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Os wrote: > http://www.vimeo.com/1921487 > > subtle but effective use (if I say so myself) of Ableton Live and > Augustus Loop, especially towards the end - pretty much from where the > camera turns on me, as it happens, which was serendipitous. Yes, you managed to snag some nice guitar notes from Michael :-)) What about that "pub voices ambience" that suddenly kicks in as you have finished playing? Did someone record the audio to a laptop and unplugged the line feed so the laptop's mic's started taking up sound for the same recording? So that was the real background noise the music was performed to - cosy! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 18:05:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67A883BE87; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:05:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EaFLdcEVstYirIVqimjdnvQ1IeVpW9VbTa9RZAxyXLY=; b=hQ/ZtDTuT7E/mZxC3yFsjxDzxC+tSGRbxXGOxGe8TP11gYrdR82LbH1bbyv7Iv1QMl HlctqIE7PCHfJvztwj9DqzRIeC67r5dRk8hRQZBR2otdAy9KhAAS5LEM7vQoCSlMEU+0 x1GhZVlzDTpWBNMwTWX6g1eU7s6bNAepzEkO0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZOUN+9IJmqqgs0qc7gh2QuMJglppP8KGyZK6f9UX7yuaWYo7rE2SF16FSQ9EXoLpqX yU3rbRRglSoUVLSDlstOyYV5GQR1FMuRhnxb7LpF99KIpHmqiPkCYug6ab5JDg+KaVgk dmcZVPHP/zKAzPKLbQI/WR8jITrrpx3zRvu6Q= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 19:05:30 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: video with some looping interest In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810091042r21e4df69p283fe578cefd805c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_142072_15670737.1223575530196" References: <66f9cc1e0810091042r21e4df69p283fe578cefd805c@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7kcK_D.A.0zE.rfk7IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 18:05:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_142072_15670737.1223575530196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline nice vimeo seems a better place to host music videos than youtube - the audio retains it's stereo image - i think youtube collapses everything down to mono... On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Os wrote: > > http://www.vimeo.com/1921487 > > > > subtle but effective use (if I say so myself) of Ableton Live and > > Augustus Loop, especially towards the end - pretty much from where the > > camera turns on me, as it happens, which was serendipitous. > ------=_Part_142072_15670737.1223575530196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
nice

vimeo seems a better place to host music videos than youtube - the audio retains it's stereo image - i think youtube collapses everything down to mono...

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Os <os@collective.co.uk> wrote:
> http://www.vimeo.com/1921487
>
> subtle but effective use (if I say so myself) of Ableton Live and
> Augustus Loop, especially towards the end - pretty much from where the
> camera turns on me, as it happens, which was serendipitous.

------=_Part_142072_15670737.1223575530196-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 21:48:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB2F43BE79; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=ghLwrQ/Y4GM/EQRq0NYYQCdVTgvqp5uo9R8SGNNBhd0=; b=BELoUjIqzWATe3yIKNzyzOeKBzoTrfn+ccZnYKvERp8WerG44uRutVMCJG/q+G5ZJr foVyRZRPxAciW8OHFEq1Df0uAUVcPPM3I+16gdVZoJk4JE5lXl6g2oXQyyvUx6CgjYja gq2E/eXKNhRAvi1GwW7XFqQ7lj4u+Uai/fMSk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=vqfUl7g1+BJ4JpvvoZPtHErGNgxfrDnV33lE4MYu8WJi0bOoxitkOGTqprT+lOPGzB dW3+aMU0RqS3zvqtoLfut8BGF1XNOmdVE5DETfaTM8FElPfI95j+gvNfJT4nT9uN/b1n +EztmDthNj0KDDJXy5TJqa71DVUVJVCbqwIKY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 22:47:59 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: video with some looping interest In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810091042r21e4df69p283fe578cefd805c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0810091042r21e4df69p283fe578cefd805c@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d77667d58a929122 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 21:48:03 +0000 (UTC) the "ambience" is the audio from the camcorder - the main mix you hear was recorded on the laptop as I was playing. I just cross-faded them in iMovie. Ableton Live is really impressive like that - I can do all I need to do to perform, with all my real-time looping, and effects plug-ins and stuff - *and* Live can still manage to record a multi-track recording of the whole gig. btw it's these multi-track recordings that Andrew takes and mixes down for the Improvizone downloads: http://www.improvizone.com/downloads.php cheers, os. 2008/10/9 Per Boysen : > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Os wrote: >> http://www.vimeo.com/1921487 >> >> subtle but effective use (if I say so myself) of Ableton Live and >> Augustus Loop, especially towards the end - pretty much from where the >> camera turns on me, as it happens, which was serendipitous. > > > Yes, you managed to snag some nice guitar notes from Michael :-)) > > What about that "pub voices ambience" that suddenly kicks in as you > have finished playing? Did someone record the audio to a laptop and > unplugged the line feed so the laptop's mic's started taking up sound > for the same recording? So that was the real background noise the > music was performed to - cosy! > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 9 22:07:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 855343BE78; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 22:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=NdMvjtq3ccT6eW7N7J1eiF2lgK3uqBjCZoqLdN+zXgM=; b=NamhnXsCB9cSZpTCoFFStVpjLT5r08rmzm6NWxWL66azlvPqjzSx/73hDdHI2lqj20 dza+d7aVS0wH2PXqZ9nZjPIwU7RNLgIxFsxXD3c4cDVNd4ZRm1FPyCJx86NcJ6ndEyxN qpXhMkfEOazaM5yhynjkOlU7AhH1pzO+1yN1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Q32qprJtZ7ZyjaOlL20GeOhEGbyxXy31ou6bZ7sEq79EQW7UWJAw38teQE0F7Ci60d 03VyHGAzGmFU0Xli+AT2qyFucmWQncjkDvJbDAsdyCmu48EiOz+ATlsxJfh+qelOZnzB tlnm18oYJZRlosYRiy+5xyorS0cyx7p4fp2ds= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810091507i5219c611qe568da8c255a895e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:07:24 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: video with some looping interest In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_132046_32781760.1223590044063" References: <66f9cc1e0810091042r21e4df69p283fe578cefd805c@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: bd508726060aa128 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 22:07:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_132046_32781760.1223590044063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Very Nice there Os, and what a great reminder of a good ole English Pub.. God I miss 'em.. Mark -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_132046_32781760.1223590044063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Very Nice there Os, and what a great reminder of a good ole English Pub.. God I miss 'em..

Mark

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From alexander_vangogh@yahoo.com Fri Oct 10 08:27:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1687 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:27:32 UTC Received: from baba.iue.edu.co (baba.iue.edu.co [190.90.57.130]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC9DA3BE6E; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baba.iue.edu.co (baba.iue.edu.co [127.0.0.1]) by baba.iue.edu.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60BC13486E7; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:38:19 -0500 (COT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by baba.iue.edu.co (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9A7bFVL028017; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:37:15 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: baba.iue.edu.co: apache set sender to alexander_vangogh@yahoo.com using -f Received: from 87.18.185.51 (SquirrelMail authenticated user coor_invjuridicas) by webmail.iue.edu.co with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:37:15 -0500 (COT) Message-ID: <3785.87.18.185.51.1223624235.squirrel@webmail.iue.edu.co> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:37:15 -0500 (COT) Subject: NOTIFICATION FOR CASH AID. 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The charitable foundation was reported by the business newspaper, the Economist between the year 2000-2007 to be technically one of the world's wealthiest charity foundation- worth billions of US$ - but its primary purpose is BRINGING INNOVATIONS IN HEALTH AND LEARNING TO THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY. George Soros is chairman of the foundation/association. Having been rated as the founder and chairman of a network of foundations, the foundation has decided to randomly select email addresses that would benefit from this year's donation/award. Association Of Charity Foundations in conjunction with the European Union is giving out a yearly donation of One Hundred Million United States Dollars as specific Donations/Grants to 50 lucky international recipients worldwide in different categories for their educational pursuit, health care, personal Business development and uplift of their environments. These funds are freely given to you for your business, educational and personal development and at least 30% to be used by you to develop a part of your environments, as this is a yearly program, which is a measure of universal development strategy, and eradication of poverty. Please kindly note that you are not the only beneficiary in your country this year and your country is not the only country that is benefiting from this donation, as beneficiaries have been chosen from countries from all continents. The idea of this donation is that within ten years from now, there will be notable richness amongst many unusual people around the world. This will give many people the opportunity to get their lives to a stage where they had always wanted. Kindly note that you will only be chosen to receive the donation once. Which means that, subsequent yearly donation will not get to you again, so it’s your choice to spend the donation wisely on something that will last you a long time. And please do not bother following up this email, if you have benefited from this donation in previous years. Based on the random selection exercise of internet service providers (ISP) and millions of Super market cash invoices worldwide, you were selected among the lucky recipients to receive the award sum of US$2,000,000.00 (TWO Million United States Dollars) as charity donations/aid from the Association Of Charity Foundations and the UNO in accordance with the enabling act of Parliament. Note that, your email was selected from either the internet, or a Shop's cash invoice around your area in which you might have purchased something from. You are required to expeditiously Contact the Executive Secretary below for qualification documentation and processing of your claims, from Monday through Sunday. On contact with this officer, you'll be given your donation pin number which you will use in collecting the funds. Please endeavour to quote your Qualification numbers (H-021-637, P-91-56) in all discussions. ***************************************** Rotterdam Branch Officer Incharge Mr. A. Van Gogh A.C.F NOTIFICATION DEPARTMENT Rotterdam, The Netherlands. TEL: +31 617 623 594 EMAIL:alexander_vangogh88@yahoo.com.hk ***************************************** Please note that this donation/Grant is strictly administered by "European Union" under delegated powers from the UNO. You are hereby advised to keep this whole information confidential until you have been able to collect your donation, as there have been many cases of double and unqualified claim, due to beneficiaries informing third parties about his/her donation. Finally, all funds should be claimed by their respective beneficiaries, not later that 7 days after notification, as failure will lead to cancellation and your donation will be reserved for next year’s recipients. On behalf of the Board kindly accept our warmest congratulations Yours Sincerely, Mrs.Ashley Kelly (Foundation officer) From alexander_vangogh@yahoo.com Fri Oct 10 08:43:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1352 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:43:14 UTC Received: from baba.iue.edu.co (baba.iue.edu.co [190.90.57.130]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643DC3BE71 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from baba.iue.edu.co (baba.iue.edu.co [127.0.0.1]) by baba.iue.edu.co (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1DB5134882D; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:59:36 -0500 (COT) Received: (from apache@localhost) by baba.iue.edu.co (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m9A7uZXc028398; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:56:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: baba.iue.edu.co: apache set sender to alexander_vangogh@yahoo.com using -f Received: from 87.18.185.51 (SquirrelMail authenticated user coor_invjuridicas) by webmail.iue.edu.co with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:56:35 -0500 (COT) Message-ID: <4154.87.18.185.51.1223625395.squirrel@webmail.iue.edu.co> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:56:35 -0500 (COT) Subject: Dear Beneficiary, From: "Foundation's Officer," Reply-To: alexander_vangogh88@yahoo.com.hk User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8-4.0.1.el5.centos.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal To: undisclosed-recipients:; Foundation's Officer, Association Of Charity Foundations, Rotterdam, the Netherlands. Dear Beneficiary, NOTIFICATION FOR CASH AID. This is to notify you that you have been chosen By the Board of trustees of the above International charity organization branched in the Netherlands as one of the final recipients of a Cash Grant/Donation for your own personal, education and business development. The international registered Foundation is named after over 5 top company owners put together. The charitable foundation was reported by the business newspaper, the Economist between the year 2000-2007 to be technically one of the world's wealthiest charity foundation- worth billions of US$ - but its primary purpose is BRINGING INNOVATIONS IN HEALTH AND LEARNING TO THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY. George Soros is chairman of the foundation/association. Having been rated as the founder and chairman of a network of foundations, the foundation has decided to randomly select email addresses that would benefit from this year's donation/award. Association Of Charity Foundations in conjunction with the European Union is giving out a yearly donation of One Hundred Million United States Dollars as specific Donations/Grants to 50 lucky international recipients worldwide in different categories for their educational pursuit, health care, personal Business development and uplift of their environments. These funds are freely given to you for your business, educational and personal development and at least 30% to be used by you to develop a part of your environments, as this is a yearly program, which is a measure of universal development strategy, and eradication of poverty. Please kindly note that you are not the only beneficiary in your country this year and your country is not the only country that is benefiting from this donation, as beneficiaries have been chosen from countries from all continents. The idea of this donation is that within ten years from now, there will be notable richness amongst many unusual people around the world. This will give many people the opportunity to get their lives to a stage where they had always wanted. Kindly note that you will only be chosen to receive the donation once. Which means that, subsequent yearly donation will not get to you again, so it’s your choice to spend the donation wisely on something that will last you a long time. And please do not bother following up this email, if you have benefited from this donation in previous years. Based on the random selection exercise of internet service providers (ISP) and millions of Super market cash invoices worldwide, you were selected among the lucky recipients to receive the award sum of US$2,000,000.00 (TWO Million United States Dollars) as charity donations/aid from the Association Of Charity Foundations and the UNO in accordance with the enabling act of Parliament. Note that, your email was selected from either the internet, or a Shop's cash invoice around your area in which you might have purchased something from. You are required to expeditiously Contact the Executive Secretary below for qualification documentation and processing of your claims, from Monday through Sunday. On contact with this officer, you'll be given your donation pin number which you will use in collecting the funds. Please endeavour to quote your Qualification numbers (H-021-637, P-91-56) in all discussions. ***************************************** Rotterdam Branch Officer Incharge Mr. A. Van Gogh A.C.F NOTIFICATION DEPARTMENT Rotterdam, The Netherlands. TEL: +31 617 623 594 EMAIL:alexander_vangogh88@yahoo.com.hk ***************************************** Please note that this donation/Grant is strictly administered by "European Union" under delegated powers from the UNO. You are hereby advised to keep this whole information confidential until you have been able to collect your donation, as there have been many cases of double and unqualified claim, due to beneficiaries informing third parties about his/her donation. Finally, all funds should be claimed by their respective beneficiaries, not later that 7 days after notification, as failure will lead to cancellation and your donation will be reserved for next year’s recipients. On behalf of the Board kindly accept our warmest congratulations Yours Sincerely, Mrs.Ashley Kelly (Foundation officer) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 09:14:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 502893BE78; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=7BJAO/TOcAZropQudxf6y/1AKyfn2VoMI4c7GAooK88=; b=GIUwNQToHygtczarKfc7xrB5DU1PKnnZ1JpIumqRSn99CK6ZPN0Ytv/UudUukShdnZ LTBf7XOb57oXmQuTOZ/p4Wp5fMWqjJGL3lPbBcXgpGhdGrvcjP/ojM75m+Z9VQQxgC8I miVczUDoRmyrd8NxF1k/xbMDx9aK4geBCMZPc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=DKUhAF+kCSGRPvTgLVs0HL7UCmy4/LMxGM2xn95OpMZ9fyG10OsMJMQyDHeerUNw13 5Bwbh0WEUeklXUfDgEhgfbMbZozHakW4Hr6U807RBW/GiS50EUaapwA+ROaFd2lXmhdB +0CBkLkcWSLtWvbRltgIYEylbS7nHO8SDSVs8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810100214w682515f2qd330225240e03348@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:14:55 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: "Internet radio playlist gig spam" - Samurai.fm playing Per Boysen & Costas Andreou MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi, The Tokyo/London web radio Samurai.fm today made available a show by Costas and me based on our duo album Nanetora. Link: http://www.samurai.fm/ (scroll down to the bottom). Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 13:27:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F4913BE7B; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=f4uOaKcK9T7nThCkOznYZW5KF/8GjDZBqcmzdGvAd4A=; b=a2dEQl6rxDIEQo3+dFBoZpZh7hSxvkFvGpGpFvzl8rg33K+EkXZdZHvrpAsphVkZX7 j3a8yvWgcbESRHFrBE4i4TVaOl5fVWfjex8XJjxVKAHRWheCJ3QbyZWMxoyHhIOn48Ed enF4Av4EtOtqAgsVt6/a+0om/O7kUZZrJ9fHw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=n/fMZRHV4c+g1LE7eOVOklThpltG0bJK8I0G4e87aFn0/TRD1xRFzu+F9kPiMiy8mR 9BQmjqjzHlanDlyBZcPZwecGaBIeh3fXAAIvOP+6mX/vRA6V7l3fh+X/5sO1+1iIemCt seaZ+BCYOa5ILMBvP8mI4daamj9l4L/Z2nCj4= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810100627p5bbdc871jfd51641618f4cbdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:27:46 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Vocal tape echo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_65370_24589054.1223645266465" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:27:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_65370_24589054.1223645266465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4 K x -- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope ------=_Part_65370_24589054.1223645266465 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_65370_24589054.1223645266465-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 17:56:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94EC53BE79; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:56:21 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:56:20 +0000 (UTC) Tiger Direct just advertised this computer for a very low price. Would this be a safe bet for live looping using the new AURISIS virtual EDP loop V software and , say, Plogue Bidule? I'd swap WIN XP , Service Pack 3 out for the VISTA which I don't like, but I"m curious all you computer literate guys and gals out there. I know that years ago, people preferred INTEL machines to AMDs but I know that much technology has ensued since then. I'd appreciate your collective wisdom on this one. Thanks, Rick Walker GATEWAY GT5662 Refurbished Desktop PC AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core 2.2GHz, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, 500 GB SATA2 HD, DVDRW-Labelflash, ATI Radeon HD, 2400XT, 10/100 LAN, Windows Vista Home Premium for $399 while we're at it, how about this laptop that they also offered? I'd only loop with this machine and have no other apps or internet on it. HP 530 Notebook PC FH528AT- Intel Celeron M 530 1.73GHz, 802.11b/g WLAN, 1 GB DDR2, 120 GB HDD, DL DVDRW, 15.4" WXGA, Windows Vista for $469? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 18:01:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD5963BE81; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cW1qBqlVPLIuE0gBUxiHtLQXHGwBXVxE/nemrIPdTb0=; b=g9lRuA1CtnKBZ7KdcO7wBkBoFHN+cWydV0QqGj7H+1IOKrxl3cXjfIAtM0zJPIzFTt WqBxZlpA5sDRfyvPAfuSDUnBDidtPsd+YPH9uiPcIAV/62oPwqoDnsk7zXca05eqPOC6 0Pxzv79JvUwqxAY+g/NTrROmOwysG+pV6Ms5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=DFAue2QOq9AiaFFL11UU/tKcXe6xI/RMv+QKFTibYFBddvbJ5IvRHzFSYRTF30eV9Y 7JwDrTFIR99tsPSOjD8Jtif9mclDnsJXaF6QwheWFXg2ptWhxAXjd4OZoAj6AgLn04I5 3unKGqpjoDTSS/b6Xq/DcWsxWcOm05VJp+tE0= Message-ID: <8feb287a0810101101i73737a71hc7e10bace1831f63@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:01:00 -0400 From: "Todd Lainhart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_102668_21636087.1223661660404" References: <721162.24100.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_2F1jC.A.iGF.dh57IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:01:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_102668_21636087.1223661660404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > >> But i still love hardware,much sexier than stearing at a laptop and >> dealing with mouses,so if Matthias comes up with a new hardware stereo EDP >> with better sound quality upgradable and loop storage and new cool functions >> i am buying one! >> > > I hope to get there! > I hope that you get there too! Love my (Oberheim) EDP and Loop IV, and would like to see/own what next you may have up your sleeve. Please keep me/us informed! -- Todd ------=_Part_102668_21636087.1223661660404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Matthias Grob <matilists@atarde.com.br> wrote:

But i still love hardware,much sexier than stearing at a laptop and dealing with mouses,so if Matthias comes up with a new hardware stereo EDP with better sound quality upgradable and loop storage and new cool functions i am buying one!

I hope to get there!

I hope that you get there too!  Love my (Oberheim) EDP and Loop IV, and would like to see/own what next you may have up your sleeve.  Please keep me/us informed!

  -- Todd

------=_Part_102668_21636087.1223661660404-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 18:44:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FBB23BE7F; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:44:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.37.51.239] X-Originating-Email: [j.easley@msn.com] X-Sender: j.easley@msn.com From: "Joshua & Jennifer Easley" To: References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:44:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C92ACD.85D1C7F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2008 18:44:21.0601 (UTC) FILETIME=[359D6510:01C92B08] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:44:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C92ACD.85D1C7F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't help much re. the computer question (other than to say that the = first one looks like a good deal), but I've a question of my own now. . = ". . . the new AURISIS virtual EDP loop V software. . ." How did you hear about this?=20 and why not Mobius?=20 --Joshua ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes > Tiger Direct just advertised this computer for a very low price. >=20 > Would this be a safe bet for live looping using the new AURISIS = virtual=20 > EDP loop V software > and , say, Plogue Bidule? I'd swap WIN XP , Service Pack 3 out = for=20 > the VISTA > which I don't like, but I"m curious all you computer literate guys = and=20 > gals out there. >=20 > I know that years ago, people preferred INTEL machines to AMDs but I=20 > know that > much technology has ensued since then. > I'd appreciate your collective wisdom on this one. > Thanks, Rick Walker >=20 > GATEWAY GT5662 Refurbished Desktop PC > AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core 2.2GHz, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, 500 GB SATA2 HD, > DVDRW-Labelflash, ATI Radeon HD, 2400XT, 10/100 LAN, Windows Vista = Home=20 > Premium >=20 > for $399 >=20 >=20 > while we're at it, how about this laptop that they also offered? =20 > I'd only loop with this machine > and have no other apps or internet on it. >=20 > HP 530 Notebook PC FH528AT- Intel Celeron M 530 1.73GHz, 802.11b/g=20 > WLAN, 1 GB DDR2, 120 GB HDD, DL DVDRW, > 15.4" WXGA, Windows Vista >=20 > for $469? >=20 >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C92ACD.85D1C7F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can't help much = re. the=20 computer question (other than to say that the first one looks = like a=20 good deal), but I've a question of my own now. .=20
 
". . . the new AURISIS virtual EDP loop V = software. .=20 "
 
How did you hear = about=20 this? 
 
and why not = Mobius?=20
 
--Joshua
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Walker" <looppool@cruzio.com>
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" = <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 10:56=20 AM
Subject: Can you help me evaluate 2 = computers for=20 live looping purposes

> Tiger Direct just advertised this computer for a very low=20 price.
>
> Would this be a safe bet for live looping using = the new=20 AURISIS virtual
> EDP loop V software
> and , say, Plogue=20 Bidule?       I'd swap WIN XP , Service = Pack 3 out=20 for
> the VISTA
> which I don't like,  but I"m curious = all you=20 computer literate guys and
> gals out there.
>
> I = know that=20 years ago, people preferred INTEL machines to AMDs but I
> know=20 that
> much technology has ensued since then.
> I'd = appreciate your=20 collective wisdom on this one.
> Thanks,  Rick Walker
> =
> GATEWAY GT5662  Refurbished Desktop PC
> AMD Phenom = 9500=20 Quad Core  2.2GHz,   3 GB DDR2 RAM,  500 GB SATA2=20 HD,
> DVDRW-Labelflash, ATI Radeon HD, 2400XT, 10/100 LAN, Windows = Vista=20 Home
> Premium
>
> for $399
>
> =
> while=20 we're at it,   how about this laptop that they also=20 offered?   
> I'd only loop with this = machine
> and=20 have no other apps or internet on it.
>
> HP 530 Notebook = PC=20 FH528AT- Intel Celeron M 530  1.73GHz, 802.11b/g
> WLAN, 1 = GB=20 DDR2,  120 GB HDD, DL DVDRW,
> 15.4" WXGA, Windows = Vista
>=20
> for $469?
> 
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C92ACD.85D1C7F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 18:56:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 249703BE7F; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:56:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <32DB8CDD-5BCC-4F2D-B24A-D51A261EC214@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:56:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:56:42 +0000 (UTC) The Gateway desktop is a very good value. It got good reviews on cnet and Newegg back when it was new. I wouldn't worry too much about Vista, the graphics card is powerful enough. If you can get XP for no additional charge I wold do that, but don't pay extra. There are ways to disable most of the Vista crap people hate, I've been using Vista now for a year with no problems. The laptop would be risky. 1GB is just barely enough especially if it comes with Vista. I can't tell what kind of graphics card it has, but low-end laptops usually have "integrated" graphics that share memory with the processor which isn't good for stable audio streaming. Celerons aren't especially fast but should be enough for just looping. If you want to also use some CPU insensitive plugins like pitch shifters and amp modelers it might not be enough. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 19:38:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF9893BE79; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60460.69.73.1223667534.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <1f6442e00810100627p5bbdc871jfd51641618f4cbdc@mail.gmail.com> References: <1f6442e00810100627p5bbdc871jfd51641618f4cbdc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:38:54 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <-ynRBD.A.JP.O967IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kayla, Really enjoyed that. I got a Headrush just for the looper. I never tried the tape echo, but this is inspiring. Andre Andre Donawa http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Fri, October 10, 2008 9:27 am, Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :) > > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4 > > K x > > -- > Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com > MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh > FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 > Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 20:06:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D38E3BE86; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=TL9jFPMA1AJ6COrujrFM+/l1dK5c1EmoqdBZWKkEdCY=; b=Uw59s543R4zcy26Z8Xl1VH/7wUea9iGjyq0Z2D9g0QKySEVrix4fZa85euie3QhKuL 9EEgrI+tmu1SD84YR/evMQdbddUwofGCpAP1BY8pThgTU7f+CwVGVDuvtYO5xWPD0nF3 n5nPsE2KZeOJx2ddnOdGTnYtCLr6R9uJHNxQM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=OaWd3kVxwfJl1V1t/4qVoLpjvYS1wE3U5wq2F8W92/jokBu/TMMWgTsm9u6K0tQo4d GSYqrensc5RnWigmgaaVyXbT+VBIWfNkb3Ht1nyPe3p6uy5yq4QuvDsbeRD+QVwhA1Y6 2h3u8KPSo5QI30RyBkMp+qfx4ZtXcvQo5zpRg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <009001c92a1d$4a902a70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <009001c92a1d$4a902a70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ariel Rzezak Subject: Re: Eno Bloom video Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:06:13 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Beautiful app. Eno is just amazing. El 09/10/2008, a las 11:42, Michael Peters escribi=F3: > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGlnljiPCNAI > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 20:07:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C46F3BE86; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:07:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=heKd7pKM/jh9Z+3XrOSAX1ugbmbLLk9XGX+Jkb6/ZXM=; b=GOcMtCFZIiwifSW/uawhg8V8U7f0TMp0svqMpQSa/TiVFJbDtYOq47IxQzZUl+2d+1 fBYJJRsrx8rGORycWySzMCVsGLW0jC5fItCElI2w5lEuhT/2P5GQK1V/wOT688RL7ou9 7dNZAWgaff/s35aGm0m1ZARbJpcmJgC6J8tPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=FeV2UPMahwcJy7YPx2orUpcirGKMN2tdJzQWknBnZtbsJY8Cc9uACl3ER4CGWwnvbn 89V2i3sMX3NpTMjUleZfeD+ffu8mjISt10wJaED9Q7/BA60gZ5H0bRvX0rTDdOvhA7dg 4mxnxiNfb/rpgjCOGpVpvXQEw959ltgDbn1PE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <009001c92a1d$4a902a70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <009001c92a1d$4a902a70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <77FDA63D-A3A0-4D5C-816A-24E413E91857@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ariel Rzezak Subject: Re: Eno Bloom video Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:07:04 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:07:37 +0000 (UTC) oh, if anyone cares, i've founded a widget with the oblique strategies. if there's someone interested i can post the link. very best, ariel. El 09/10/2008, a las 11:42, Michael Peters escribi=F3: > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGlnljiPCNAI > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 20:19:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED9963BE80; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:19:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=9t44JWYec/TRmnSBSx+11PZei7cMooKewF+kMIW9Ieo=; b=K9i+Fn4CgafMDGrlNV8wk+Zlk/dVWzSno+pdzySxZ0sghV0/0weMlqkh3WzxqQ6Uxg /q4S7glEKNdsf8eaGjwIi9BZPVdq0mf5vwAQDY0Ix5SUM7uvh5s+8NiPNYIl8BxFY59q /lunyTbK+YsLDAbPi1fZk0lSDg5S0/yhmnY88= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=RMbi6jzqbltnOsfwnuLIE661Ya2NCiDp938qgtyS0kpip27FQIdrJVliOTCh08blPo qsraohLx/dNUkJuCy5yJyfPELCnVREC1Qjae6OaiKnRsb3ZuUAL2s5TE6j7hIwR9BjBG edoipIVr5bKeAFYfl0HcEuA9wXQsr6DZc9DSk= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810101319u5b45ec18uec3033c985be2638@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:19:02 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes In-Reply-To: <32DB8CDD-5BCC-4F2D-B24A-D51A261EC214@zonemobius.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_147645_11661785.1223669942086" References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> <32DB8CDD-5BCC-4F2D-B24A-D51A261EC214@zonemobius.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0bf621abfa4a0d5e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:19:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_147645_11661785.1223669942086 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline While we=B4re on it, what about...? http://www.digitalimpuls.no/aspx/produkt/prdinfovnet.aspx?plid=3D31749 Scuse the Norwegian, basically Tiny screen, but I would plug it into a bigger for home, and hopefully not HAVE to look at the screen live. 1.5 g memory Harddisk : 120 GB Harddisk Chip-set : Intel 82945GMS + Intel 82801GBM No idea what that all means really... but Like rick, planned only for looping, Mobius and Mulch is the plan. going thru something like http://www.norskmusikk.no/VarevisningDetalj.aspx?varekode=3DLU208046&hkat= =3D4&kat=3D5&grp=3D3 again Norwegian page... USB 4 in 4 outs... All I can afford anytime soon... unless I sell the hardware kit first... which Im loathed to do... cos Im still not swung on software... M --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_147645_11661785.1223669942086 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

While we=B4re on it, what about...?

htt= p://www.digitalimpuls.no/aspx/produkt/prdinfovnet.aspx?plid=3D31749
=
Scuse the Norwegian, basically Tiny screen, but I would plug it into a = bigger for home, and hopefully not HAVE to look at the screen live. 1.5 g m= emory
Harddisk : 120 GB Ha= rddisk Chip-set : Intel 82945GMS + Intel 82801GBM

No idea what that = all means really... but Like rick, planned only for looping, Mobius and Mul= ch is the plan. going thru something like

http://www.norskmusikk.no/Va= revisningDetalj.aspx?varekode=3DLU208046&hkat=3D4&kat=3D5&grp= =3D3

again Norwegian page... USB 4 in 4 outs...

All I can afford anytime = soon... unless I sell the hardware kit first... which Im loathed to do... c= os Im still not swung on software...

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------=_Part_147645_11661785.1223669942086-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 20:20:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 128803BE86; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=5TQCvWMlMs1jnh3mSahBQE3MMCgQR0sDqMiRCPdlN+M=; b=IwbayHTQQIG2G6u/TXUDG3nifFccFjm72HcjEUSoysLsSUOlKyoqe9gBvMlwA59WRD OmYbwqll5ymOU6JyW79zBQ5JFofBPrJeidrQr0Xmoiqbu+FgJrUXjtOQ2vqgx1H6mMan fe4/3PhSCVOIbj22bRpgxk2oTvniuMPhUykiI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=CeqQ/3ShQxgbcLfl96YfdGhWDqy4F85FMqzz+sUjJ9h1kFBSrCmVMWjkuszgm0c7E2 WS3VbldAb2gq6HEDyyvpiPwhx4b5gO+OjnNd3oewqoTx7RL/ujIpZRyA84oygoappN77 F9jyukT1IH+4ZWoLZlmW3U1DzmmrSaj+vz6Vg= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810101320w74042fefh7ec558ba0556ef14@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:20:18 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Eno Bloom video In-Reply-To: <77FDA63D-A3A0-4D5C-816A-24E413E91857@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_147676_17516856.1223670018509" References: <009001c92a1d$4a902a70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <77FDA63D-A3A0-4D5C-816A-24E413E91857@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: db9baabac8551489 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:20:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_147676_17516856.1223670018509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline interested... On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > oh, if anyone cares, i've founded a widget with the oblique strategies. > > if there's someone interested i can post the link. > > very best, ariel. > > > El 09/10/2008, a las 11:42, Michael Peters escribi=F3: > > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGlnljiPCNAI >> >> > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_147676_17516856.1223670018509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
interested...

On Fri, Oc= t 10, 2008 at 10:07 PM, Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com> wrote:
oh, if anyone cares, i've founded a widget with the oblique strategies.=

if there's someone interested i can post the link.

very best, ariel.


El 09/10/2008, a las 11:42, Michael Peters escribi=F3:

h= ttp://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGlnljiPCNAI





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------=_Part_147676_17516856.1223670018509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 20:51:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E80A3BE7F; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223671913; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=JVbgRQsOQ4psFQ8BvapLWaRHOCI=; b=pjreyu12PqOgvdcgIRud6RjhrmxoeAWUFz40NyasoutBeBICsdufKJUCt5qZLef4 /B2pRhvB0DGuWjrgCPe1zeVcJo/Iqd8AV4al97PKXlZ5wlAwe4pxhBBlNDRNMsRH; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=YHbnP0G1Ts0twG1AEmoA:9 a=7Ehq_RHTxf0wGrZd0ToA:7 a=eGYgavCoctxE2mmaIlC_Dn_Oz6AA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=u1RUh8lOPwcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001c01c92b1a$05864740$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <009001c92a1d$4a902a70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <77FDA63D-A3A0-4D5C-816A-24E413E91857@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Eno Bloom video Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:51:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <2A-9PD.A.7ZC.pB87IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:51:53 +0000 (UTC) absolutely, thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ariel Rzezak" To: Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Eno Bloom video oh, if anyone cares, i've founded a widget with the oblique strategies. if there's someone interested i can post the link. very best, ariel. El 09/10/2008, a las 11:42, Michael Peters escribió: > http://hk.youtube.com/watch?v=GlnljiPCNAI > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1719 - Release Date: 10/10/2008 4:08 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 21:12:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FE533BE82; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:12:41 -0500 Subject: RE: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Thread-Topic: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Thread-Index: AckrFXJNzqkemproTRWB+JHm//1JZgABhO2Q Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DD@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> <32DB8CDD-5BCC-4F2D-B24A-D51A261EC214@zonemobius.com> <9ab0c76f0810101319u5b45ec18uec3033c985be2638@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810101319u5b45ec18uec3033c985be2638@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DDbarqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <6elYCC.A.j-C.MV87IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:12:44 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DDbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > While we=B4re on it, what about...? > > http://www.digitalimpuls.no/aspx/produkt/prdinfovnet.aspx?plid=3D31749 >From Amazon... > The 8.9-inch screen has a WSVGA resolution (1024 x 600) and support > for up a 262K color depth. Video is powered by the Intel Graphics > Media Accelerator 950, which uses shared video memory with the main > memory. Memory sharing is a common source of occasional glitches for audio applications, especially if you're using a graphics intensive OS like Vista. The one on Amazon comes with XP which is good. That doesn't mean it won't work, it's just risky when you try to get the lowest possible latency. I have always loved ultra-portables, these are especially cute. If only we could rent them for a month.... Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DDbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> While we=B4re on it, what about...?
>
> http://www.digitalimpuls.no/aspx/produkt/prdinfovnet.aspx?plid=3D31749=
 
From Amazon...
 
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Jeff
--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DDbarqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 21:18:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23D863BE7E; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:19:40 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #601 for October 9, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48EFC6EC.3020103@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: <6TGd8B.A.zJD.2a87IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:18:47 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/081009.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. 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The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk two from Poland 2004 on the Ricochet Dream label. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 21:19:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B46E63BE80; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:19:18 -0500 Subject: RE: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Thread-Topic: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Thread-Index: AckrFXJNzqkemproTRWB+JHm//1JZgACAqRQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DF@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> <32DB8CDD-5BCC-4F2D-B24A-D51A261EC214@zonemobius.com> <9ab0c76f0810101319u5b45ec18uec3033c985be2638@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810101319u5b45ec18uec3033c985be2638@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DFbarqsailpoint_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:19:20 +0000 (UTC) --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DFbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A comment on the Acer One from Anazon: This computer uses the 1.6 GHZ atom, which is the standard processor includ= ed with most ultraportables right now. I've noticed that I can run some mod= erately intensive software on it, but not smoothly for long periods of time= . I tried loading some music software for which a 1.4 GHZ processor is reco= mmended (Native Instruments Absynth 4), just to see how well it would run. = I found that it was capable of operating, but it was easy to make the CPU s= pike if I played more than a few notes at once. Not that I was planning on = using this a a music production tool, but I was interested in seeing what I= could get away with in case I find myself stuck on an airplane or car trip= with my Aspire One and a pair of headphones and want to play around with s= ounds a little bit. Native Instruments FM8 wasn't so processor intensive an= d operated much more smoothly. In short, I got about the best response I co= uld have hoped for with the processor and soundcard included. Fairly functi= onal for light doodling. Loopers that just loop without any fancy pitch shifting or filters should b= e less intensive than Absynth so that's a good sign. Still I would really want to test one = before laying down the cash. Jeff --_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DFbarqsailpoint_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A comment on the Acer One from Anazon:
 

This computer uses the 1.6 GHZ atom, which = is the=20 standard processor included with most ultraportables right now. I've notice= d=20 that I can run some moderately intensive software on it, but not smoothly f= or=20 long periods of time. I tried loading some music software for which a 1.4 G= HZ=20 processor is recommended (Native Instruments Absynth 4), just to see how we= ll it=20 would run. I found that it was capable of operating, but it was easy to mak= e the=20 CPU spike if I played more than a few notes at once. Not that I was plannin= g on=20 using this a a music production tool, but I was interested in seeing what I= =20 could get away with in case I find myself stuck on an airplane or car trip = with=20 my Aspire One and a pair of headphones and want to play around with sounds = a=20 little bit. Native Instruments FM8 wasn't so processor intensive and operat= ed=20 much more smoothly. In short, I got about the best response I could have ho= ped=20 for with the processor and soundcard included. Fairly functional for light= =20 doodling. 
 
Loopers that just loop without any fancy pitch shi= fting or=20 filters should be less intensive
than Absynth so that's a good sign.  Still I = would=20 really want to test one before laying down
the cash.
 
Jeff
 
--_000_7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DFbarqsailpoint_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 21:25:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CAA73BE7F; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=N1/vOv2AaxppPvxq/tkmriCnd9KFaL23vHTO8oGHE8U=; b=TSBq8L+MTLvGdePVGa8tYckCMEzqzh3Ml5aTChZkP1U+BxR3/7+AqXP7spSs2iW7Fd rsNsd3axC8eVfUJlAliGMLvumHxfdOma/Q0kMcv5xv4HFVIoBQv8Z+mp/krxBXWMS+Kb 5n7XwTWS7dKBAG0+AxNCoJxK869rH1S/ps+LU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=TPI2RGHV4VWrHMle+ACH9Iwc8Wj8srfefbuDs9S+4GJEchdsJxAs6CkTcIEjQ28Ze+ LRj+AooFdhdez45sPHB01jUFqeC9e+jOHzyaQV1Bbp2wZpTjLBbF6wgqgbi6GGSEbVDB hMrIEH7V7cJKYJowWH7OgpUU4PPS7BtvJDMTs= Message-ID: <588ce11d0810101425r19e91630qb732afd52f23cf1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:25:20 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DD@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> <32DB8CDD-5BCC-4F2D-B24A-D51A261EC214@zonemobius.com> <9ab0c76f0810101319u5b45ec18uec3033c985be2638@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530D9DD@barq.sailpoint.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:25:21 +0000 (UTC) I'm using an Acer Aspire One to write this message. I've got the Linux version with the very pokey solid state drive. It's great for the internet, but I wouldn't expect much for music applications. I'll concur with Jeff on the Celeron Laptop. It's $300 more, but I'm real happy with my $700 Acer Extensa EX5620-6030 Core 2 Duo T7500(2.20GHz) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=3DN82E16834115493 I thought I'd want to install XP, but it runs fine on Vista. It ran the Live Five Performance test at 15%. Pretty good since my quad core home built computer scores 13%. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Jeff Larson wr= ote: > >> While we=B4re on it, what about...? >> >> http://www.digitalimpuls.no/aspx/produkt/prdinfovnet.aspx?plid=3D31749 > > From Amazon... > >> The 8.9-inch screen has a WSVGA resolution (1024 x 600) and support >> for up a 262K color depth. 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oh, if anyone cares, i've = founded a widget with the oblique strategies.

if = there's someone interested i can post the link.

very = best, ariel.


Yes, Please do post a = link.

I've = always wanted to have a look at those clever cards. Which instrument to = play, what tie to wear, which girl to call -- all questions that can be = diagonally answered. Studio strategies or real life scenarios! Thank you = Ariel !!

scott=A0= duncan, asheville, NC

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 10 22:52:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44AD73BE7E; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60747.69.73.1223679166.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:52:46 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Ohhh? What's this about new AURISIS virtual EDP loop V software? Anyone have any news on this? Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Fri, October 10, 2008 1:56 pm, Rick Walker wrote: > Tiger Direct just advertised this computer for a very low price. > > Would this be a safe bet for live looping using the > and , say, Plogue Bidule? I'd swap WIN XP , Service Pack 3 out for > the VISTA > which I don't like, but I"m curious all you computer literate guys and > gals out there. > > I know that years ago, people preferred INTEL machines to AMDs but I > know that > much technology has ensued since then. > I'd appreciate your collective wisdom on this one. > Thanks, Rick Walker > > GATEWAY GT5662 Refurbished Desktop PC > AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core 2.2GHz, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, 500 GB SATA2 HD, > DVDRW-Labelflash, ATI Radeon HD, 2400XT, 10/100 LAN, Windows Vista Home > Premium > > for $399 > > > while we're at it, how about this laptop that they also offered? > I'd only loop with this machine > and have no other apps or internet on it. > > HP 530 Notebook PC FH528AT- Intel Celeron M 530 1.73GHz, 802.11b/g > WLAN, 1 GB DDR2, 120 GB HDD, DL DVDRW, > 15.4" WXGA, Windows Vista > > for $469? > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 11 00:23:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D20303BE80; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:23:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223684582; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=HuYXYicu2N69gMni40gLmrgshPg=; b=VUSri9cd88iao/zg4G0064Z2taLN06xvH8bIOAOeRr3ekxqCGL+fEhK530AFRsMW 5kZCNkQ6gDTZ7rzJYLBH1FGoVtZHm5ssdt5u8ThTtIPh++Fz8H7we4tPyQVz6J7x; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=t-IPkPogAAAA:8 a=iY5OwDot3G7jUh6-U10A:9 a=oqCVvdLQ_vv18un9e1XZ2ZFMIuUA:4 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=nEZ44F3I1ml5KBkzZFMA:9 a=Dna-ExpMg5KGh9ikbPcA:7 a=IB_NzEOk4XaggUU70FqFxsjWe-UA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000901c92b37$850ac140$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: widgit Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:23:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C92B15.FD760E90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:23:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C92B15.FD760E90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The main one is for macs, but I did find this Yahoo one thats pretty = cool. 4 decks http://widgets.yahoo.com/search/?q=3DOblique+Strategies mac http://www.apple.com/downloads/dashboard/reference/oblique.html ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C92B15.FD760E90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The main one is for macs, but I did = find this Yahoo=20 one thats pretty cool. 4 decks
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El 10/10/2008, a las 18:47, Scott Duncan = escribi=F3:

oh, if anyone cares, i've = founded a widget with the oblique strategies.

if = there's someone interested i can post the link.

very = best, ariel.


Yes, Please do post a = link.

I've = always wanted to have a look at those clever cards. Which instrument to = play, what tie to wear, which girl to call -- all questions that can be = diagonally answered. Studio strategies or real life scenarios! Thank you = Ariel !!

scott=A0= duncan, asheville, NC


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Subject: FROM:MR ABDUL HAMZA Reply-To: abdul_hamza2006@yahoo.fr Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 06:13:30 +0200 X-Uidl: 1223698410219511223698410tolukudd3ctgdhlnw@altavizslahu X-Originating-Ip: 212.52.153.62 X-Mailer: VizslaMail 4.11 Message-Id: <20081011042119.D29603BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --_----------=_12236984102195110 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" FROM:MR ABDUL HAMZA BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER,=20 AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK (A D B)=20 OUAGADOUGOU BURKINA-FASO.=20 Dear Friend,=20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (PRIVATE & CONFIDENTIAL)=20 Before I introduce myself, I wish to inform you that this letter is not a h= oax mail and I urge you to treat it serious. This letter must come to you a= s a big surprise, but I believe it is only a day that people meet and becom= e great friends and business partners. I am ABDUL HAMZA the MANAGER in charge of BILL AND EXCHANGE section of AFRI= CAN DEVELOPMENT BANK (A D B) Ouagadougou Burkina-Faso in West Africa.With d= ue respect and regard I have decided to contact you on a business transacti= on that will be very beneficial to both of us at the end of the transaction= .=20 During our investigation and auditing in this bank, my department came acro= ss a very huge sum of money belonging to a deceased person who died on Nove= mber=C2=A0 2003 in a plane crash and the fund has been dormant in his accou= nt with this Bank without any claim of the fund in our custody either from = his family or relation before my discovery to this development.=20 Although personally, I keep this information secret within myself to enable= the whole plans and idea be Profitable and successful during the time of e= xecution. The said amount was sum of $ TWENTY TWO MILLION THREE HUNDRED THO= USAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS ($22.3m) Meanwhile all the whole arrangement to put claim over this fund as the Bona= fide next of kin to the deceased, get the required approval and transfer th= is money to a foreign account has been put in place and directives and need= ed information will be relayed to you as soon as you indicate your interest= and willingness to assist me and also benefit your self to this great busi= ness opportunity.=20 In fact I could have done this deal alone but because of my position in thi= s country as a civil servant(A Banker),we are not allowed to operate a fore= ign account and would eventually raise an eye brow on my side during the ti= me of transfer because I work in this bank. This is the actual reason why i= t will require a second party or fellow who will forward claims as the next= of kin to the Bank and also present a foreign account where he will need t= he money to be re-transferred into on his request as it may be after due ve= rification and clarification by the correspondent branch of the bank where = the whole money will be remitted from to your own designation bank account.= I don't want this money to go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bill.Our = Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if such money remained=C2=A0= unclaimed after five years, the money will be transferred into the Bank=C2= =A0 treasury as unclaimed fund.The request of=C2=A0 foreigner as next of ki= n in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a foreig= ner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.=20 I will not fail to inform you that this transaction is 100% risk free. On s= mooth conclusion of this transaction, you will be entitled to 30% of the to= tal sum as gratification, while 5% will be set aside to take care of expens= es that may arise during the time of transfer and also telephone bills, whi= le 65% will be for me. Please, you have been adviced to keep "top secret" a= s I am still in service and intend to retire from service after I conclude = this deal with you.=20 I will be monitoring the whole situation here in this bank until you confir= m the money in your account and ask me to come down to your country for sub= sequent sharing of the fund according to percentages previously indicated a= nd further investment, either in your country or any country you advice us = to invest in.=20 All other necessary vital information will be sent to you when I hear from = you.=20 I look forward to receive your email.=20 Yours faithfully,=20 Mr=C2=A0ABDUL HAMZA=C2=A0HOME ADDRESS:288 QUEZIN=20 FERDINAND AVENUE OUAGADOUGOU=20 BURKINA-FASO. ______________________________________________________ Szezon nyit=C3=B3 ny=C3=A1rigumi akci=C3=B3k a www.gumi1.hu port=C3=A1lon! --_----------=_12236984102195110 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
FROM:MR ABDUL HAMZA
BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER,
AFRICAN= DEVELOPMENT BANK (A D B)
OUAGADOUGOU BURKINA-FASO.

Dear Friend,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 (PRIVATE & CONF= IDENTIAL)

Before I introduce myself, I wish to infor= m you that this letter is not a hoax mail and I urge you to treat it seriou= s. This letter must come to you as a big surprise, but I believe it is only= a day that people meet and become great friends and business partners.

I am ABDUL HAMZA the MANAGER in charge of BILL AND EXCHA= NGE section of AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK (A D B) Ouagadougou Burkina-Faso in= West Africa.With due respect and regard I have decided to contact you on a= business transaction that will be very beneficial to both of us at the end= of the transaction.

During our investigation and au= diting in this bank, my department came across a very huge sum of money bel= onging to a deceased person who died on November=C2=A0 2003 in a plane cras= h and the fund has been dormant in his account with this Bank without any c= laim of the fund in our custody either from his family or relation before m= y discovery to this development.

Although personally= , I keep this information secret within myself to enable the whole plans an= d idea be Profitable and successful during the time of execution. The said = amount was sum of $ TWENTY TWO MILLION THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES= DOLLARS ($22.3m)

Meanwhile all the whole arrangement= to put claim over this fund as the Bonafide next of kin to the deceased, g= et the required approval and transfer this money to a foreign account has b= een put in place and directives and needed information will be relayed to y= ou as soon as you indicate your interest and willingness to assist me and a= lso benefit your self to this great business opportunity.

In fact I could have done this deal alone but because of my position = in this country as a civil servant(A Banker),we are not allowed to operate = a foreign account and would eventually raise an eye brow on my side during = the time of transfer because I work in this bank. This is the actual reason= why it will require a second party or fellow who will forward claims as th= e next of kin to the Bank and also present a foreign account where he will = need the money to be re-transferred into on his request as it may be after = due verification and clarification by the correspondent branch of the bank = where the whole money will be remitted from to your own designation bank ac= count.I don't want this money to go into the Bank treasury as unclaimed Bil= l.Our Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if such money remained= =C2=A0 unclaimed after five years, the money will be transferred into the B= ank=C2=A0 treasury as unclaimed fund.The request of=C2=A0 foreigner as next= of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a = foreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.

I will not fail to inform you that this transaction is 10= 0% risk free. On smooth conclusion of this transaction, you will be entitle= d to 30% of the total sum as gratification, while 5% will be set aside to t= ake care of expenses that may arise during the time of transfer and also te= lephone bills, while 65% will be for me. Please, you have been adviced to k= eep "top secret" as I am still in service and intend to retire from service= after I conclude this deal with you.

I will be moni= toring the whole situation here in this bank until you confirm the money in= your account and ask me to come down to your country for subsequent sharin= g of the fund according to percentages previously indicated and further inv= estment, either in your country or any country you advice us to invest in. =

All other necessary vital information will be sent t= o you when I hear from you.
I look forward to receive your email.
Yours faithfully,
Mr=C2=A0ABDUL HAMZA=C2=A0HOME ADD= RESS:288 QUEZIN
FERDINAND AVENUE OUAGADOUGOU
BURKINA-FASO.

______________________________________________= ________
= Szezon nyit=C3=B3 ny=C3=A1rigumi akci=C3=B3k a = www.gumi1.hu port=C3=A1lon!
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ABDULSALAM SAEED, BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER, AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO. Greetings and compliments of the season, I am making this proposal to you based on my conviction that you will be capable of championing this business cause. In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of $29.2m US dollars (Twenty nine Million two hundred Thousand US Dollars) in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer, late Mr. Zahid Al Fahim an Afghanistan who died along with his entire family in an American bomb attack on the city of Kandahar, Afghanistan in the year 2003. Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin, business partner or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately I learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him during the bomb attack leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that I now decided to make this business proposal to you and release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and I don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill. The Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if such money remained unclaimed after five years, the money will be transferred into the bank treasury account as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner. I wish to inform you that 40% of this money will be for you as foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account, while the remaining 60% would be for me. Thereafter I will visit your country for disbursement according to the percentages indicated. Therefore to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relation, business partner or next of kin to the deceased customer.So if you are willing to champion this business with me,Send me the following information's so that we can proceed immediately. Your Full Names... Occupation.... Age ...................... Marrital Status.... Personal Phone No..... Home Phone No... Personal Fax No.... Private Email Id ..... 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ABDULSALAM SAEED, X-Mailer: FROM MR. ABDULSALAM SAEED, BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER, AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK OUAGADOUGOU, BURKINA FASO. Greetings and compliments of the season, I am making this proposal to you based on my conviction that you will be capable of championing this business cause. In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of $29.2m US dollars (Twenty nine Million two hundred Thousand US Dollars) in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer, late Mr. Zahid Al Fahim an Afghanistan who died along with his entire family in an American bomb attack on the city of Kandahar, Afghanistan in the year 2003. Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless somebody applies for it as next of kin, business partner or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines but unfortunately I learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him during the bomb attack leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that I now decided to make this business proposal to you and release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and I don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill. The Banking law and guideline here stipulates that if such money remained unclaimed after five years, the money will be transferred into the bank treasury account as unclaimed fund. The request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner. I wish to inform you that 40% of this money will be for you as foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account, while the remaining 60% would be for me. Thereafter I will visit your country for disbursement according to the percentages indicated. Therefore to enable the immediate transfer of this fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relation, business partner or next of kin to the deceased customer.So if you are willing to champion this business with me,Send me the following information's so that we can proceed immediately. Your Full Names... Occupation.... Age ...................... Marrital Status.... Personal Phone No..... Home Phone No... Personal Fax No.... Private Email Id ..... Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text of the application. I will not fail to bring to your notice that this transaction is hitch free and that you should not entertain any atom of fear as all required arrangements have been made for the transfer. You should contact me immediately you receive this mail. Trusting to hear from you immediately. Yours faithfully, Abdulsalam Saeed 00226 78 43 83 64 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 11 13:28:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBAC63BE80; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:28:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> Subject: RE: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:28:52 +0200 Message-ID: <000701c92ba5$4ddeb910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AckrCmU+2UXjwVJIQHej1JbGXZcAzwAmjtqQ In-Reply-To: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.35; VDF: 7.0.7.27) Resent-Message-ID: <7MuIQ.A.VgG.ZoK8IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 13:28:57 +0000 (UTC) I'm also about to buy a Windows notebook for music purposes. My dealer (from a large music store) recommends a Dell Studio 1735, and he also recommends Vista over XP. He said that Vista has gotten much better, and that all the music apps he uses (and he uses a lot) run ok under Vista. He said Vista would be a better choice than XP because it utilizes the dual processor much more effectively than XP can. Can anyone confirm that? Is any of our favorite tools still incompatible with Vista? I'll probably use a combination of Bidule, Moebius (or the new Matthias Grob Loop plugin), and a bunch of VST plugins, including samplers. -Michael www.michaelpeters.de From godd@afge01.imadiff.net Sat Oct 11 15:04:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 427 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:04:15 UTC Received: from afge01.imadiff.net (www.bebe-annonces.com [194.69.194.83]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA7DC3BE71 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 15:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from afge01.imadiff.net (afge01.imadiff.net [127.0.0.1]) by afge01.imadiff.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E67D118316 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:36:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from godd@localhost) by afge01.imadiff.net (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m9BEaVac005359; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:36:31 +0200 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:36:31 +0200 Message-Id: <200810111436.m9BEaVac005359@afge01.imadiff.net> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: FUND MANAGER. From: "HELON MASAMPU." Reply-To: helon20002000@movemail.com X-Priority: 1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Dear Sir/Madam, I am Helon M. Masampu and i am in search of a trustworthy western investor. I inherited a substantial amount of money and i need a westerner to assist me get into the western country,to live permanently and to meaningfully engaged my inheritance in profitable investments of any sector in the Western economy. I sincerely do not have any knowledge in Financial investments and i do not intend to explain all in this email. Your assistance to make my dream a reality, i will certainly reward you for your services. For Further details please get back to me as soon as possible with your: Full Names: Contact Address. Tel/Fax Numbers: I await your urgent response. Kindly reply to my private mail box helon20002000@movemail.com Yours Sincerely, Helon Masampu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 11 16:37:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487DB3BE78; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:37:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:38:26 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for October 11, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48F0D682.9060800@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:37:20 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2008/081011.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #138 October 11, 2008. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. The cassettes from issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at: http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Bruce Russian River Sequences No. 3 Fitzsimmons] Serenade VA [Rudiger Magic Eyes Sequences No. 3 Gleisberg] VA [Simon Cooper] Courtship Sequences No. 3 Ricochet Gathering Easy Papa La Gomera (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Red Star La Gomera (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Leviathans La Gomera (Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Just Another Wave La Gomera (Ricochet Dream) On the Ocean Inquisitor Betrayer Crimson Moon Space Elevator (none) Phase II/Eclectic: Preempted. Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Karmakanic Who's the Boss In Who's the Boss In the Factory the Factory (InsideOut) Cailyn New World In Blue New World In Blue (none) 3rdegree Apophenia Narrow-Caster (none) 3rdegree It Works Narrow-Caster (none) 3rdegree Narrow-Caster Narrow-Caster (none) Unitopia One Day The Garden (InsideOut) Unitopia The Garden * The Garden (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 11 17:06:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24E173BE7E; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <000701c92ba5$4ddeb910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> <000701c92ba5$4ddeb910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6B92F440-9535-48A8-A68B-78DD9F9DB8B0@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 12:06:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-ACL-Warn: { X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc123.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com Resent-Message-ID: <9L1-PB.A.Hd.a0N8IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 17:06:35 +0000 (UTC) > He said that Vista has gotten much better, and that all the > music apps he uses (and he uses a lot) run ok under Vista. He said Vista > would be a better choice than XP because it utilizes the dual processor much > more effectively than XP can. Sort of. My understanding is that XP Home supports only one "processor" (a chip that goes into a socket) but it does support more than one "core" within a processor. There aren't many multi-processor machines, most are dual or quad core. XP Pro supports both multi-processor and multi-core. There were some problems early on that required BIOS upgrades for AMD processors, and I think SP2 fixed a few problems. It is probably true that Vista was written to make better use of multi-cores for it's own internal operation but you won't notice this much when you're running a single audio application. It is more important that the audio application be written to take advantage of multiple cores. > Is any of our favorite tools still incompatible with Vista? Not that I'm aware of. Major software companies have to support Vista by now or they'd be out of business. I regularly use Bidule, Audio Mulch, and energyXT. Most VSTs don't have any issues because they operate within a very limited framework, it is host support for multi-cores that is more important. The main problem with Vista is that it is much more of a CPU hog than XP, especially if you enable all of the fancy "Aero" user interface features. So you need a modern machine with a good graphics card to run it and a CPU intensive audio application at the same time. Don't be afraid of Vista if you're getting a new multi-core machine with a graphics card that has at least 128MB of dedicated memory. But if you're trying to get the cheapest possible laptop or a small ultra-portable, they won't be very powerful and XP is usually a better choice. 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- ATTN: RE-CHANGE OF ACCOUNT. This is in regard to outstanding payment, I am Mr. Richards Mark,the Newly appointed Director United Nation Legal Affairs, Security and Investigation, the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (Chief YAR`ADUA) and his Decision Making Body, the Executive Arms of the Government, has directed me to come down to Nigeria to Investigate your Fund and to make sure that we approve all outstanding debts owned to Foreign beneficiaries by the government of Nigeria in this 2 quarter of this Fiscal year 2008. This decision was taken based on the abnormities and inability of the BANKS in Nigeria to Release your fund into your bank account whereby it was discovered that some Directors in Central bank of NIGERIA being the Federal Government of Nigeria were diverting foreign beneficiaries payment to another account of their choice overseas. In view of this, during our investigation I found out that an account was submitted to divert your fund to a Germany account. Below is the account submitted and I want you to confirm if you are aware of the new development because we are about effecting payment to the account stated bellow today. Beneficiary: CERSTIN WENGER SHENOUDA Bank: FRANKFURTER BANK A/C No.: 367840545 Code: 50050201 Finally, be informed that a payment instruction has been issued and Forwarded to the Treasury Department of the Federal Government of Nigeria In favor of you and your company for immediate release of your fund to the account above without any further prejudice. But there is no way We can approve the fund to your account without you confirming if you Have changed your account for your fund to be transfer to the Beneficiary: CERSTIN WENGER SHENOUDA BANK ACCOUNT IN GERMANY. Contact me immediately for further clarification to know if you have Giving instruction to transfer your fund to the above account today. On behalf Of the entire management of United Nations, we are congratulating you in advance and if you fail to contact this office on or before 24hrs from now then we will now wire the fund to the German account. Thanks for your co-operation. Waiting for your urgent response Yours faithfully Mr.Richards Mark Un Office of Legal Affairs Security and Investigation
--0-112289718-1223745201=:47830-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 11 18:24:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A55C3BE84; Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=NGEwHCo+2SsmkJaQkUr6+SRU6MzmF0mOdYEn0gBPOEE=; b=hPZdoFqf2WEVwhU4Se6NnGZH7r1bItpzSsJPIRnDEv2e0oVF+WrOwErJ3ROoCimDRN W455J4bIOVwWkAHMps6mfVr75BAarIc+pJ2zoGFsSyaqCVu9IKdVBSKk9NGfVIuANXV9 8ZQGJK7rwl+BLU62ss7LtezBR4OYrUm0I7dpQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BqhpJXsXK+SJJjf0RhvHcBBhzn/iCrZkcuqN0yZRl9Nt84HTqjcGyaKhwIsU8wylk0 1jduJu+HkANo4ugjXmw7P1zz3YjPYYLfXx8gsj2r0Inbm2jtGlKTQoHZ6VH8HnKCVACY a/ggMIUb0a4tejtF+o4f6lvyA11gBtSSjyBqw= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 20:24:03 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes In-Reply-To: <000701c92ba5$4ddeb910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_75578_12498092.1223749443832" References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> <000701c92ba5$4ddeb910$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 18:24:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_75578_12498092.1223749443832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hi michael, a friend had problems with audiomulch and a toshiba running vista. also, the macbook, not pro, can't run mainstage due to graphics card incompatibility. my 0.02. 2008/10/11 Michael Peters > I'm also about to buy a Windows notebook for music purposes. My dealer > (from > a large music store) recommends a Dell Studio 1735, and he also recommends > Vista over XP. He said that Vista has gotten much better, and that all the > music apps he uses (and he uses a lot) run ok under Vista. He said Vista > would be a better choice than XP because it utilizes the dual processor > much > more effectively than XP can. Can anyone confirm that? Is any of our > favorite tools still incompatible with Vista? I'll probably use a > combination of Bidule, Moebius (or the new Matthias Grob Loop plugin), and > a > bunch of VST plugins, including samplers. > > -Michael > www.michaelpeters.de > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_75578_12498092.1223749443832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
hi michael,

a friend had problems with audiomulch and a toshiba running vista. also, the macbook, not pro, can't run mainstage due to graphics card incompatibility.

my 0.02.

2008/10/11 Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
I'm also about to buy a Windows notebook for music purposes. My dealer (from
a large music store) recommends a Dell Studio 1735, and he also recommends
Vista over XP. He said that Vista has gotten much better, and that all the
music apps he uses (and he uses a lot) run ok under Vista. He said Vista
would be a better choice than XP because it utilizes the dual processor much
more effectively than XP can. Can anyone confirm that? Is any of our
favorite tools still incompatible with Vista? I'll probably use a
combination of Bidule, Moebius (or the new Matthias Grob Loop plugin), and a
bunch of VST plugins, including samplers.

-Michael
www.michaelpeters.de




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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
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I also need a truthful and God fearing person in this business because I don't want to make a mistake so I need your strong assurance and trust.With my position in the office I don't want anything that will jeopardize my job,so I advice that we should make secrecy and confidentiality as our primary working condition, bearing in mind that I am a public servant. I will use my position and influence to effect legal approvals and onward transfer of this money to your account with appropriate clearance forms of the ministries and foreign exchange department. At the conclusion of this business, you will be giving 35% of the total amount, 60% will be for me, while 5% will be for expenses both parties might have incurred on the process of the transfer. I look forward to your earliest reply. Yours sincerely, MR. 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- Zenith Bank(Lagos Nigeria) Jim Ovia Dear Friend,Thank you for giving me your time. Please be patient and read my email. I am a staff of ZENITH BANK (Lagos Branch, Nigeria) attached to private Banking Services. I am contacting you concerning a customer and an investment placed under our banks management about 5 years ago. In 2003, the subject matter; Ref: Jb/znt/bank/107 came to our bank to engage in Private Banking services, I was the officer assigned to his case. We met on numerous occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to consider various growth funds with prime ratings. Based on my advice, we spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for our first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this point at over 10 million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments.In line with the instructions he had earlier given to liquidate the funds after 4 years in order for him to make some Investment requiring cash payments in Europe and America. I followed his instructions and I later made numerous attempt to contact him after 3 years in order to get further instructions from him. I made futile efforts to locate him and I immediately passed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of our bank. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart attack in Cannes, South of France.We were able to identify the body and cause of death was confirmed. The bank launched an investigation immediately into possible surviving next of kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his estate. There is US$14,000,000.00 deposited, I alone have the deposit details and this will be released to no one unless I instruct my Bank to do so. I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct my Bank to release the deposit to you as the closest surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared to give you 30% of the total sum for your help. That is, I will simply nominate you as the next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. The proceed shall be shared in the ratio 30/70.If you give me positive signals, I will initiate this process towards a conclusion. I await your quick response.Sincerely, Jim Ovia. Kindly Reply To:jimovia1011@gmail.com
--0-2010439947-1223761797=:16259-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 14:56:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96B9D3BE78; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61921.69.73.1223823366.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 10:56:06 -0400 (AST) Subject: PA Help From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm looking at some new PA alternatives and was wondering what you multi instrumentalist were using? I'm looking to loop bass and vocals with some occasional percussion. I tried putting my vocals through a bass amp, but it wasn't so hot. Anyone tried the new JBL Eon's? I tried the older ones a few years back and the bass sounded fairly decent. I see they also have a sub woofer. http://www.jblpro.com/pressroom/Oct08/JBL_AES_EON500.html Thanks, Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 15:02:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDBB33BE80; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:02:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lAjyav0cVm9D9FCKh5AKEDO1TukwGIGv9V9hHL9wtp4=; b=JvLu/MMKQJRk2DieOwrbHfOf5sSI14lAHJIVxbhP+BRpGRx8WoLHwkW5LjdJyeY5db cTsFSu8IQBkDDMvGTq8KGZR8QJ6R+NuP/RiEAbs/rjq/ps99vBwpAAQdIM02R90KE1Jr hmKdHru98j5vPNrhy/L34qXb64AkrHJ39bBno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Wi4FRcQwHXLTTaTzEwJpym4jBlM/nB7vSe4wtdWuDt3UBCFrRZ2EMDNZfrqWuiefya pQh4BQv6t4N6ycg4kapnv9s95Y8vxztA+KpDKaTKPZ/9/q1mAmerr+0Yh3ysFoDQ0Gx6 +/epn+Li0vDAeVkN/u1fwD7VH/Cvfjn3WXMXg= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810120802j3252da8co3cfa6cf4a32f2c9f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:02:16 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PA Help In-Reply-To: <61921.69.73.1223823366.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_76297_19867294.1223823736413" References: <61921.69.73.1223823366.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:02:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_76297_19867294.1223823736413 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I use the Yamaha StagePas 500 system (pic of it in action here: http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v299/115/96/588575754/n58857= 5754_1056567_4937.jpg) ... it's got a fantastic built in mixer with a surprisingly powerful kick for 2 x 250W speakers! You can read about it here: http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?StockCode=3DPA00540 Highly recommend it :) Kayla 2008/10/12 Andr=E9 Donawa > Hi, > > I'm looking at some new PA alternatives and was wondering what you multi > instrumentalist were using? > I'm looking to loop bass and vocals with some occasional percussion. > I tried putting my vocals through a bass amp, but it wasn't so hot. > Anyone tried the new JBL Eon's? > I tried the older ones a few years back and the bass sounded fairly decen= t. > I see they also have a sub woofer. > > http://www.jblpro.com/pressroom/Oct08/JBL_AES_EON500.html > > Thanks, > > Andre > > > > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > > --=20 Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope ------=_Part_76297_19867294.1223823736413 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
I use the Yamaha StagePas 500 system (pic of it in action = here: http://photos-h.ak.facebook.com/pho= tos-ak-sf2p/v299/115/96/588575754/n588575754_1056567_4937.jpg) ... it&#= 39;s got a fantastic built in mixer with a surprisingly powerful kick for 2= x 250W speakers!

You can read about it here: http://www.imuso.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?Stoc= kCode=3DPA00540

Highly recommend it :)

Kayla

2008/10/12 Andr=E9 Donawa <andre@andredonawa.com>
Hi,

I'm looking at some new PA alternatives and was wondering what you mult= i
instrumentalist were using?
I'm looking to loop bass and vocals with some occasional percussion. I tried putting my vocals through a bass amp, but it wasn't so hot.
Anyone tried the new JBL Eon's?
I tried the older ones a few years back and the bass sounded fairly decent.=
I see they also have a sub woofer.

http://www.jblpro.com/pressroom/Oct08/JBL_AES_EON500.html<= br>
Thanks,

Andre




http://www.andredo= nawa.com
http://cdba= by.com/all/andredonawa
http://www= .myspace.com/andredonawa




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------=_Part_76297_19867294.1223823736413-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 15:03:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDFF63BE85; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223823839; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Bjdt5ke6Uu3jC5JG25d+Bl/xZyc=; b=pbFDYkP9wDBdzsPU+tUGoFZ5gocn5NZ3E94L3UB0VMejYWkzXA3FLKMWK4wWE5lN lz7rMYdgcGY3saYLDhsrFLcQyeswQ2Xtl7wzWyBKf5ehv+/z9YPPPJTgr4GUzXAO; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=sV6WBWiuAAAA:8 a=qid86XM3AAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=MCcMJlnH8lflajx2aHgA:9 a=4rgmohH3TX1NqM-OpLkA:7 a=fCfHIX3yCRo2krjCh151evTDo9wA:4 a=9CU4qESISMoA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001301c92c7b$c0f8f330$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <61921.69.73.1223823366.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: Re: PA Help Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:03:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:03:59 +0000 (UTC) I once had a pair of JBL 15 Eons, they are great. They handled anything I threw at them. I put a whole band through 1 of them once with no problems. my 2 cents, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "André Donawa" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: PA Help > Hi, > > I'm looking at some new PA alternatives and was wondering what you multi > instrumentalist were using? > I'm looking to loop bass and vocals with some occasional percussion. > I tried putting my vocals through a bass amp, but it wasn't so hot. > Anyone tried the new JBL Eon's? > I tried the older ones a few years back and the bass sounded fairly > decent. > I see they also have a sub woofer. > > http://www.jblpro.com/pressroom/Oct08/JBL_AES_EON500.html > > Thanks, > > Andre > > > > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Yours sincerely, Mr.Williams Kabor ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 16:48:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60D303BE73; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223830126; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=a4VMc1Kt3vWdeFPDksi42gmyGKY=; b=i6Cb1t8UvHBIksiTVMFTcyeYVEmtgG7a3/57UnPOGMNhFZjyqECNkQghkDWXI128 lOjSKXSdIbTX7Fe0uYuTe3HstcFTaeOlPigqTs3MaWiGSvEfidnAeFzTfFtgIzp8; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xBBY21LMAAAA:8 a=sV6WBWiuAAAA:8 a=qid86XM3AAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=AYThcmSzrv9l77RW0hQA:9 a=ZD7D327ws8OXCXEva7gA:7 a=ZpBbdFsJ7KLAg3mmi65XHxnYGhcA:4 a=9CU4qESISMoA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c92c8a$64adf1c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <61921.69.73.1223823366.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Subject: Re: PA Help Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:48:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <2N9MLC.A.mo.vpi8IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Hey Andre' I thought i'd mention that right now I needed something portable and clean plus inexpensive in my case so I got a Behringer Ultratone 1800FX keyboard amp/pa for 250.00. I have not played a bass through it but it's very clean and pretty powerful. I will add another one for stereo in the future. I play looped guitar/fx through it. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHK1800FX Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "André Donawa" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 10:56 AM Subject: PA Help > Hi, > > I'm looking at some new PA alternatives and was wondering what you multi > instrumentalist were using? > I'm looking to loop bass and vocals with some occasional percussion. > I tried putting my vocals through a bass amp, but it wasn't so hot. > Anyone tried the new JBL Eon's? > I tried the older ones a few years back and the bass sounded fairly > decent. > I see they also have a sub woofer. > > http://www.jblpro.com/pressroom/Oct08/JBL_AES_EON500.html > > Thanks, > > Andre > > > > > http://www.andredonawa.com > http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa > http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 17:15:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30DF33BE7C; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:15:39 +0200 Message-ID: <001f01c92c8e$26bbcd70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C92C9E.EA449D70" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcksilIPXmAA/4RMSPqVy6OK+r3dGQAA6auA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:15:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C92C9E.EA449D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi Raul, > a friend had problems with audiomulch and a toshiba running vista. hmm ... the Audiomulch page says, > With the rise in Windows Vista usage, questions are often asked about AudioMulch's Windows Vista compatibility. AudioMulch version 1.0 works with Vista so long as you enabled the "Run as Administrator" setting for the AudioMulch program icon. See Windows Vista compatibility in the AudioMulch FAQ for more information. Improved Vista support is under development. -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C92C9E.EA449D70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi Raul,
 
> a friend had problems with = audiomulch and a=20 toshiba running vista.  
 
hmm ... the Audiomulch page says,
 
> With = the rise in=20 Windows Vista usage, questions are often asked about AudioMulch's = Windows Vista=20 compatibility. AudioMulch version 1.0 works with Vista so long as you = enabled=20 the "Run as Administrator" setting for the AudioMulch program icon. See = Windows = Vista=20 compatibility in the AudioMulch FAQ for more information. Improved = Vista=20 support is under development. 
 
-Michael
------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C92C9E.EA449D70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 17:31:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAD573BE72; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 13:32:57 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo In-reply-to: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :) > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4 > That was unlistenable. That overly loud pitch distorted too badly. Was it PA feed back being looped? Were the speakers "Johnny One Notes?" Was it just a bad recording? The vocals sounded fine but the shit that ran through as much of the video as I could stand ruined it for me. Cheers, Bill P.S. My Headrush bit the dust last month. Do I have to leave the list until I get a new looper? ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 17:34:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BA9D3BE7E; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Lo0DFt3rEqpI3WzdOa61UVpYZBjNjDrU0WuYDSovN9Y=; b=Af6Hh2JFn52+d99UftHXAWM7yiqz/YjhWjBgT7bT4eMESHja1E4nTbT2aZafrN807s I33YHJEvgXVHLwNmGHW/rDMSHTNZbh6ZlySj4mgoeaIjIms0WcIIetM1bIsJhBQePx/6 faWx5EJpuL5eUdl5IBJSSOedT1cC+hXmzDgOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=S5MKuyRNJGWUTzkMnKw8yewRcYIMeMS0TUfPppF7rz42Zim1tW3M1YfQco6zL2lNpo HFhwACTwN/79JvZvqx7ptzV4oawGyNWWvaz0n4zAieI21D31fDPckCM+qzGXyR2x8KJm SDKaTbcO133/bW4k3StAmeH3c0LwxDI4mIn6A= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810121034i7c1a8ad8kf4c3deb04cb79909@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:34:27 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo In-Reply-To: <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_76524_13130990.1223832867594" References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> Resent-Message-ID: <8uNCs.A.tEC.lUj8IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 17:34:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_76524_13130990.1223832867594 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow ... um ... sorry I didn't mean to post this as an example of a great PA system - it was a tiny little venue doing a wee gig called "The Experiment". I was just experimenting with using the Tape Echo function on my E2, using only the voice and thought I'd post it here as I've seen others do likewise. Sorry you didn't like it but I guess that's what this constructive feedback (if you'll pardon the pun) is all about! Thanks for listening though :) 2008/10/12 Bill Fox > Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > >> Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :) >> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4 < >> http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope> >> > That was unlistenable. That overly loud pitch distorted too badly. Was it > PA feed back being looped? Were the speakers "Johnny One Notes?" Was it > just a bad recording? The vocals sounded fine but the shit that ran through > as much of the video as I could stand ruined it for me. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > P.S. My Headrush bit the dust last month. Do I have to leave the list > until I get a new looper? ;-) > > -- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope ------=_Part_76524_13130990.1223832867594 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Wow ... um ... sorry I didn't mean to post this as an example of a great PA system - it was a tiny little venue doing a wee gig called "The Experiment".  I was just experimenting with using the Tape Echo function on my E2, using only the voice and thought I'd post it here as I've seen others do likewise. Sorry you didn't like it but I guess that's what this constructive feedback (if you'll pardon the pun) is all about!

Thanks for listening though :)

2008/10/12 Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us>
Kayla Kavanagh wrote:
Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :)
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4 <http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope>
That was unlistenable.  That overly loud pitch distorted too badly.  Was it PA feed back being looped?  Were the speakers "Johnny One Notes?"  Was it just a bad recording?  The vocals sounded fine but the shit that ran through as much of the video as I could stand ruined it for me.

Cheers,

Bill

P.S.  My Headrush bit the dust last month.  Do I have to leave the list until I get a new looper?  ;-)




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------=_Part_76524_13130990.1223832867594-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 18:06:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F7763BE72; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=d7mvOf1HPda/Kh6CDyfKWjgc/vCec8wYmiGYrH95SXg=; b=Oacz10qIkpaeZdtxBPOE9Wl9a3WclNdoYQnU+83mr5caanGSTT0xo/NWQc5Jg+SCyM Wq7VUqracwiRgefHgPeBmgxwNpYUzPUF7ERB7mIr3b4owE4DrxcOCnp7pF4yZHIPk+28 CDAQSu828vjfyT42wMnMEJWnD3smhdpb+JgKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=q0dmm7K0j0VdbyB23jGI8SJsXzPhvNceZS43p8uDpKtZb8kQDyUs5RLgGwqRnAbImB 63lcHqdOqGaCHr/Gy0+ckEaDRlq+zp5UmPkN595IHanIwmLyruDsseHM9u4jEq3IkpFf u8cjAUfZp5JY9WkhhrV/phXgHczrHNxQb+/zc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:06:38 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes In-Reply-To: <001f01c92c8e$26bbcd70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_82416_17597730.1223834798833" References: <001f01c92c8e$26bbcd70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: <5Y0kHB.A.X8C.wyj8IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:06:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_82416_17597730.1223834798833 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Good. I'll pass this to him. Anyhow, he switched to bidule, as i didsome months ago. Basically i use bidule for solo-live-loopage and ableton for a recording setup. Thanks Michael. 2008/10/12 Michael Peters > hi Raul, > > > a friend had problems with audiomulch and a toshiba running vista. > > hmm ... the Audiomulch page says, > > > With the rise in Windows Vista usage, questions are often asked about > AudioMulch's Windows Vista compatibility. AudioMulch version 1.0 works with > Vista so long as you enabled the "Run as Administrator" setting for the > AudioMulch program icon. See Windows Vista compatibility in the AudioMulch > FAQ for more > information. Improved Vista support is under development. > > -Michael > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_82416_17597730.1223834798833 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Good. I'll pass this to him. Anyhow, he switched to bidule,
as i didsome months ago.
Basically i use bidule for solo-live-loopage and ableton for a recording setup.
 
Thanks Michael.

2008/10/12 Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
hi Raul,
 
> a friend had problems with audiomulch and a toshiba running vista.  
 
hmm ... the Audiomulch page says,
 
> With the rise in Windows Vista usage, questions are often asked about AudioMulch's Windows Vista compatibility. AudioMulch version 1.0 works with Vista so long as you enabled the "Run as Administrator" setting for the AudioMulch program icon. See Windows Vista compatibility in the AudioMulch FAQ for more information. Improved Vista support is under development. 
 
-Michael



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TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_82416_17597730.1223834798833-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 18:13:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF8DF3BE72; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:14:16 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo In-reply-to: <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Sorry for the harsh opinion, Kayla. I'm not trying to kick you off of the island or anything. (Hell, I'm looperless myself at the moment!) I liked the vocal bits but the distorted tone got in the way of your excellent jam. Do you know what caused the distortion? Cheers, Bill Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > Wow ... um ... sorry I didn't mean to post this as an example of a > great PA system - it was a tiny little venue doing a wee gig called > "The Experiment". I was just experimenting with using the Tape Echo > function on my E2, using only the voice and thought I'd post it here > as I've seen others do likewise. Sorry you didn't like it but I guess > that's what this constructive feedback (if you'll pardon the pun) is > all about! > Thanks for listening though :) > > 2008/10/12 Bill Fox > > > Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > > Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :) > http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4 > > > That was unlistenable. That overly loud pitch distorted too > badly. Was it PA feed back being looped? Were the speakers > "Johnny One Notes?" Was it just a bad recording? The vocals > sounded fine but the shit that ran through as much of the video as > I could stand ruined it for me. > P.S. My Headrush bit the dust last month. Do I have to leave the > list until I get a new looper? ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 21:03:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB3F13BE79; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HtZkShYFhfbmqMEatoXc9IFGB2JgRPcum5pHWOPEkXs=; b=Qcyq1BYr0+pnfKHFj0UBxWt8fp0/qEzIuYTr/P8jTBPFcIF2zg1mYDWMHSCZM1qnkc HUxA/w+fiNhzV2ue6KJ1vG5aoCECeyyD8MK+1//B5aOSoKHVlSGcFYyivzGDCmAdVLgm TXW8qk+w9asjSW9NGgqMs5hm6MP5i1VvxIb7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=p9oE78EW+qnOa94TEF4XL1pRrcmFMOaxZNjzP3FhvUapFBny39SjYuvaxWgf/Id4Ao 0OGWilzjJxF7PRFdOwoUmn5gFkfu9kMvyyQ93WecoqJI0WKWzH/Q66UkrqZBgs2pRysS QynlJW8gmIINqOfHKuDeGAOL7wHh003+nJGY0= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:03:31 +0300 From: "Jeff Lomas" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: PA Help In-Reply-To: <000e01c92c8a$64adf1c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61921.69.73.1223823366.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <000e01c92c8a$64adf1c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:03:32 +0000 (UTC) I guess it depends on the size of the venue. I've used the JBL 15" EONS . they're pretty straight forward and can handle the load. Mackie SRM 350s are also pretty nice. I've played with bass, guitar, vox, and percs through these before and liked them. In my travel rig I've been using a pair of Roland CM-30s as monitors. I like em. great bass response, but you have to use them in stereo or things will get muddy. probably get a pair for around 350 USD. Cheers, Jeff www.nightmarepuppies.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 12 22:43:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C93073BE78; Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60878.69.73.1223851426.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: <61921.69.73.1223823366.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <000e01c92c8a$64adf1c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:43:46 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: PA Help From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <2Hl6T.A.cuD.g2n8IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 22:43:44 +0000 (UTC) Kayla, Jeff and Jeff, Thanks for the feedback. So far I'm kind of leaning towards the eons. Andre On Sun, October 12, 2008 5:03 pm, Jeff Lomas wrote: > I guess it depends on the size of the venue. I've used the JBL 15" > EONS . they're pretty straight forward and can handle the load. > > Mackie SRM 350s are also pretty nice. I've played with bass, guitar, > vox, and percs through these before and liked them. > > In my travel rig I've been using a pair of Roland CM-30s as monitors. > I like em. great bass response, but you have to use them in stereo or > things will get muddy. probably get a pair for around 350 USD. > > Cheers, > Jeff > www.nightmarepuppies.com > > http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 02:12:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 496623BE72; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=3/wyUDE5XxbmmETyqpRLcqxRynXiYl7B/qmu+aOzey6T3XsbJgkR+jj9034uTU1+//hWGDdBpp+b6qA6qjvrM/PB21OcUHQ0rixPqn6DY1pLpEzMNRofPVOu/ptvBngne5nHBvDy26zYEd33gnD9aDRm7QG5RjwI/hdJqNfrdhY=; X-YMail-OSG: LAzsj4AVM1ms5HeNpBmGFadiAKsIytnpWGYnsSMChATx1Uq1961tGJx3UIDPVV6w0Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: semi OT: anyone rack mount a Shure psm600 with a MOTU ultralite mk3? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <238362.19844.qm@web50307.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:12:11 +0000 (UTC) I'm in the final stages of getting my live rig together, and I have one rack space for an audio interface and a transmitter for a Shure psm600 IEM. I've already got the Shure unit, and I'm eyeing the MOTU to share the rack space with it. Has anyone else racked these together? What rackmount kit did you use? Just trying to figure it out before I buy the MOTU. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 03:12:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B35793BE81; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F2BC85.2070002@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:12:05 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Man, I just went to look at the latest changes to the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com) and it just looks fantastic. I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest working man in experimental & live looping music/music festival production/raise a family/computer industry field for an incredible job! Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our community. We are so lucky to have your contribution. I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful design for the Website logo, the Festival main poster and the Festival T-shirts. Ted is another Rennaisance person...............raising a family, making beautiful music and driving a successful and very artistic graphic arts business. This is going to be such an exciting and humungous festival this year and it's become so cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions. Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf drink or an import beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their thing.........lol They deserve it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 03:20:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EC4A3BE7E; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=GL0Vgr19hFZVcKZvf/JOQiAhkb42g13qylGNKKtOp0g=; b=qFiT7mIY4/rSXA9mJEPDGXRxcd/aammBjWAlKe2bZOfqlXhkFRmKn/xLPqv3UPjUH+ ovMLa7Z84RP/eSPL1m9Nz3nShhNamiJeerH0mOCPO6rhQsNseTDnKKZ6bW6jKvwlmzyG HY8MwepFbHW6viQxIDpbPCiEc44HocWVMGmAY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aMDHZAw54ixncUgIZBifYVN4L0yR+pVFrPNKTyHaVz5gOt1Z50V+7QcDR/A6orgK3N 9QIlpcOF9GvTdYBC2XKJCukkXrdhv7vnUQCmaB+YFtDFT3Ffl7GAIdg30aTVlOrLlZHl 2NTEuLd/XqFvc5S4KQrF4pEK0YOKJG0qV95vE= Message-ID: <4759e5740810122013g42c032c7m67bf708f115f8ce0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:13:29 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!! In-Reply-To: <48F2BC85.2070002@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_75195_10485694.1223867609627" References: <48F2BC85.2070002@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:20:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_75195_10485694.1223867609627 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline agreed! all looks GREAT... Rah, Rah, and Rah... On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Man, I just went to look at the latest changes to > the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com) > and it just looks fantastic. > > I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest working > man in experimental & live looping music/music festival production/raise a > family/computer industry field > for an incredible job! > Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our community. We are so lucky > to have your contribution. > > I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful design for the > Website logo, the Festival main poster and the Festival T-shirts. > > Ted is another Rennaisance person...............raising a family, making > beautiful music and driving > a successful and very artistic graphic arts business. > > This is going to be such an exciting and humungous festival this year and > it's become so > cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions. > > Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf drink or an import > beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their thing.........lol > > They deserve it. > > -- In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, Then on to California with Meredith Monk. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_75195_10485694.1223867609627 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
agreed!  all looks GREAT... Rah, Rah, and Rah... 

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Man,  I just went to look at the latest changes to
the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com)
and it just looks fantastic.

I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest working
man in experimental & live looping music/music festival production/raise a family/computer industry field
for an incredible job!
Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our community.   We are so lucky to have your contribution.

I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful design for the
Website logo, the Festival main poster and the Festival T-shirts.

Ted is another Rennaisance person...............raising a family,  making beautiful music and driving
a successful and very artistic graphic arts business.

This is going to be such an exciting and humungous festival this year and it's become so
cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions.

Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf drink or an import beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their thing.........lol

They deserve it.




--
In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October,
Then on to California with Meredith Monk.

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------=_Part_75195_10485694.1223867609627-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 04:04:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 514973BE7F; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FHmTypKXTYIetb7ynFsdTrEzKeU5iRk6SAIoP1PRzws=; b=Wr/mB1DiqXMt2QzUzw3CU503fJDklkJu5fY8IeBC+dLCR43fCe1eqBjI2/az7uZf/l IZxFsEliGrdyK6xx+kixH8PfajW6RH/n8nE0rOhvBuoz/GA/wSKPPseOv3zqCXKOFSJg jU+MT3ji/XCKEhMCcd1uwugttj3+4bTAmwUms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=phi5xg6cdZ7MbSEFYcnK2f4V1EqBuyUGb8vaDQXlNiIdTC6q9SbcnxtZAlzdhtS17u 4sWT85dN91TYzC3d0s0Cm4rHRwU6ZY2NrfBF8HiD/xO5fgm6C+twReH7N9VHsMPOv+IB hyyyABJ3bWcm/ghPcWZzDRXcyH80fTqtUBjRw= Message-ID: <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:04:26 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K8 LOOPFEST finances In-Reply-To: <48EED66A.1090107@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48EED66A.1090107@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7XOZ_D.A.Z3D.Mjs8IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Looks great! Wish I could be there, just got my donation out today. Thanks again! On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > Due to severe financial struggles on the part of everyone, > the Y2K8 Looping Festival has only received 10% of the funding > from previous years. > > We are in severe danger of not paying our staff (who work for > over 30 hours at the three days of the festival) and also of > losing money for the festival itself (which I will be responsible > for), > > Because of this I wanted to ask for everyone's help in whatever > way they can. > > To white: > > 1) We just cannot allow guests this year. I've been > very liberal about this in the past but the venue is too small > and there are over 60 people amongst performing artists and > staff filling the room without adding to the coffers. > PLEASE FORGIVE US THIS ONE, FOLKS and don't hassle > the volunteer staff at the door about this one. > > 2) There will be a limited number of t-shirts for sale at the venue > $20 all sizes except $22 for XX or XXX sizes. Proceeds > go to the staff of the festival. > > 3) I will make special high quality laser poster copies of the beautiful > poster for people who want one if they contact me well > in advance (like this weekend). They'll sell for $10/each > > 4) If you are doing okay, financially, and can afford it, I will gladly > accept donations to the festival. I promise that ALL donations > will go, only, for paying the volunteer staff! > You can PayPal me at this account looppool(at)cruzio(dot)com > > Thanks for your help and understanding. > We have an awesome festival this year. > > Many heartfelt thanks all the artists who are all performing without > compensation!!!!!! > Much gratitude to Ted Killian, our graphics artists..........Krispen > Hartung, our > webmaster................Chris Roberts, who donated our website to > us..........Bob Beede....... > who printed the huge festival posters for free > and TO ALL OF THE AMAZING FOLKS WHO HAVE DONATED MONEY > OR TIME to this wonderful festival. > > We'll see you all really soon. > > love, Rick > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 09:32:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F8843BE75; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:32:04 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> Message-ID: <20081013093204.6860@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1//y7hIgxn/R4gE0gCQoTUE80wpMehtIB1fgHSorl U9UcZuOxV7gQy9GDK9bpEs2WKOex0wLzRKbw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: 8WSaJ9w6Mydhcv5OkWtlhcVjaGRhZpqa X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kayla found it inspiring, nice. I usually use simple delay with feedback for similar purposes (with quite a bit of reverb). But I wil compare a bit delay versus tape echo. thanks Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From godd@afge01.imadiff.net Mon Oct 13 10:22:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from afge01.imadiff.net (www.bebe-annonces.com [194.69.194.83]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA8683BE72 for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from afge01.imadiff.net (afge01.imadiff.net [127.0.0.1]) by afge01.imadiff.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05BC38093B for ; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:01:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from godd@localhost) by afge01.imadiff.net (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id m9DA1lAr013586; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:01:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:01:47 +0200 Message-Id: <200810131001.m9DA1lAr013586@afge01.imadiff.net> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: FUND MANAGER. From: "HELON MASAMPU." Reply-To: helon20002000@movemail.com X-Priority: 1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Dear Sir/Madam, I am Helon M. Masampu and i am in search of a trustworthy western investor. I inherited a substantial amount of money and i need a westerner to assist me get into the western country,to live permanently and to meaningfully engaged my inheritance in profitable investments of any sector in the Western economy. I sincerely do not have any knowledge in Financial investments and i do not intend to explain all in this email. Your assistance to make my dream a reality, i will certainly reward you for your services. For Further details please get back to me as soon as possible with your: Full Names: Contact Address. Tel/Fax Numbers: I await your urgent response. Kindly reply to my private mail box helon20002000@movemail.com Yours Sincerely, Helon Masampu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 11:01:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3683F3BE7C; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Sony Vaio anyone? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:01:48 +0200 Message-ID: <001101c92d23$1729f220$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcktIxawafZ1iNvST3atWxeHypRUCQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.1.1.35; VDF: 7.0.7.30) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:01:55 +0000 (UTC) I think I'll buy a Sony Vaio notebook simply because their LCDs seem to be much brighter than anyone else's, and that would allow me to work outdoors. Now there are many subspecies of Vaio and I'm not sure which one would be best suited for music purposes. Suggestions anyone? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 11:19:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2BC93BE79; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject :mime-version:date:references:x-mailer; bh=zNPzKU5GzQO3UNst7R9YZacGKP9mPIZaGUJwSaMkFbc=; b=wLgl/+S/SQkPSnxsj9L2g5kmWgJDvWf2x+eyiojVNxJM3jdzcEA92OlhJI/zUaphjd YZ+2uZ4DjPn8zr1sIwSV+rEKS8ph+8qlC4zQTwYNv7arjy7pMrveP+IaUxT33sv6fsC6 a8GANasgQ15kBcI1ku0OIZIJKb9kbjg9zIz1c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:subject:mime-version:date:references :x-mailer; b=ISkYns9ZzM8Ps5dQXrM6ys1T0J5YSpozRUZhjWX+K5NzYrPi8BaK2Mksq5uy8QMsIb xlW9hX7uIbv0OmBPVkGwoXpmnt7TVsbUlRqBgrF8XBbfWLedTN9ofN5c8JBy5aBcBLxG Z9tR/0rWla/7mUmokhtCW3jZzjcxfPeUily0M= Message-Id: <15E553DD-1FD1-4CF9-BB42-91C4A1D51965@gmail.com> From: David Hayes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Y2K8 LOOPFEST finances Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:19:12 -0700 References: <48EED66A.1090107@cruzio.com> <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Okay, the only way I can get this to work is: If I set the EDP to Timing-->Sync =3D In 8th/Cycle =3D 8 Quantize =3D CYC Midi --> ControlSource =3D OFF (If =20= I do not do this, keyboard presses on the Ozonic intended to be =20 musical mess with the loop timing in weird ways, display flashes odd =20 things.) Then I set Live (haven't gotten Logic to work yet) Midi Sync =20 preferences / Midi Ports to Sync for Ozonic External (the exchoplex) =20 but I turn both Track and Remote off in that same row (for good =20 measure). I also make sure Ozonic External is not set up as a control =20= surface in the section above. This allows me to press play in Live so I see it's sending out a midi =20= sync signal, then start a part or two in Stylus RMX, then I can record =20= a fairly tight loop of what's playing into the exchoplex, then stop =20 the RMX plugin so it doesn't echo. After that I can proceed with looping as normal, changing tracks and =20 sounds in Live and overdubbing. PROBLEMS / QUESTIONS: 1. Though there is some quantization going on to keep things in sync, =20= I don't think it's always starting at the beginning of the phrase and =20= I'm not sure how to set that... I tried 8th/chcle=3D8 and the 1/8 note =20= option in the Live pull down menu, as well as the 1 Bar option. I'm =20 guessing that's, like, an 8th note in 120 bpm that I'm seeing as a the =20= single steady flash of Midi Sync out in Live... (took me a while to =20 realize you have to hit play in live, not just have the plug in =20 sounding)... are there other options besides this one constant signal =20= tied to a fixed BPM that might suit working with the EDP? 2. It's interesting that it records a small bit of empty time when =20 pressing play in Live but not the record button on the echoplex... =20 seems to fill in the smallest quantized block of time??? Could this be =20= related to the start point of the loop not being where I anticipate it =20= should have been? 3. Sometimes if I try to overdub a new drum part it will sound in sync =20= with what's already been recorded, but not nearly always. It's way hit =20= or miss even if I haven't stopped the EDP or Live and I can't figure =20 out why that might be, though I bet if I focus systematically I'll =20 figure it out... point is though, I'd like to know how to lock it so I =20= don't have to have some weird work flow to keep it working in true =20 sync. It's not perfect by any means... echo effect over time, =20 sometimes start a new RMX drum part and it's just off with what you =20 recorded of the first two, etc. But sometimes it works well enough... =20= weird. 5. I played with Sync =3D OUT on the EDP and In in Live... I forget what = =20 happened now, but a) does anybody think that's worth playing with =20 more? Would there be some advantage I'm not thinking of? I figure if =20 the EDP is in sink with the Live, then arpeggiations and delays =20 applied should be in sync too, but that's the kind of thing I'm asking =20= about. B) is there a way to get the best of both worlds... some sort =20 of in AND out method/settings I might consider? So I could, say, start =20= with a looped sound on the EDP and have that set the BPM in Live or =20 some such? 6. The EDP has a Sync =3D OU5 option that is not in the manual. What is =20= that used for? MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH THANKS FOR ANY THOUGHT, SUGGESTIONS, =20 TROUBLESHOOTING QUESTIONS, ETC. Happy looping. On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:26 PM, David Hayes wrote: > > Thank you... firstly glad to know it works... wasted time on it 10 =20 > years ago, didn't want to repeat. > > Do you know how to set it up? EDP timing synch=3DIN (that from memory, = =20 > it's not in front of me) Anything else for the EDP? How do I set up =20= > Logic or Live to send the signal out... I kind of already did try =20 > this and nothing happens, so obviously I'm missing something(s). > > Much thanks! > > > > > On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Claude Voit wrote: > >> yes it syncs well if the daw spits out decent tight midiclock >> why dont you try nobody has your own exact setup and way of looping =20= >> anyway >> >> Claude >> >> >> David Hayes a =E9crit : >>> Perhaps my previous post was too wordy... >>> Does anyone out there use the EDP synched with their computer/DAW/=20= >>> drum-software midi clock? Does synch it work well? (Record =20 >>> functions as expected, stays in synch over time etc?) >>> The old Oberheim's didn't but I have a new one now. However I =20 >>> haven't tried this in 8-10 years and years so I have no idea how =20 >>> to set it up properly---what settings need to be made in Logic or =20= >>> Ableton Live to use the Specrasonics Stylus RMX plug in for drums =20= >>> (mainly) and yet have the EDP's record/overdub/nextloop functions =20= >>> work as I normally expect them to. >>> Much thanks for any advice on the best way to use Logic (or =20 >>> Mainstage) or Ableton for the routing, effects and drums for use =20 >>> with live EDP looping! >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 11:22:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FDE13BE80; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:subject:mime-version:date:references :x-mailer; bh=xPPv8huGw2BJHqy8oHwhDcq7X1C8AUZCq2b5c6xL8aE=; b=EkiIVnMdPk4tEgyQSvQ6HDZyXKOaSX8hHrZP8zWlpJx86m+KsiGaJ7AH0FIM9gWYKC nQZ7irak3nB+iWTdMqlBaa+GA+ALrX6fRfH5FGNGWQ6nnadOAiNGB9KyaRojCQmeYHRZ SL+EGwUr1T6kzIk18P1T4GzeA+Oz63tGqje5o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:subject:mime-version :date:references:x-mailer; b=XNORt0LZsPoi021i0iDP4CjY0O1g2Xx1bhpikWdgqJnkHLbF5VEbe8gXH7qFXiVBfn f9iZA0jMRuk8wRRUcP8xqi7REltR8M5TzfyKTJvHISnx3C9LU/NWOJK+ygbnzF86iQL/ 3Yho7Gxn2b0MTIqqElWIhfUW5wi9AnCZCjwN8= Message-Id: From: David Hayes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-776603296 Subject: EDP Sync -- a partial solution and some oddities Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:22:19 -0700 References: <48EED66A.1090107@cruzio.com> <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:22:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-776603296 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable (sorry for the repost... first dissapeared and forgot to change =20 subject when recycling another email for the second...) Okay, the only way I can get this to work is: If I set the EDP to Timing-->Sync =3D In 8th/Cycle =3D 8 Quantize =3D CYC Midi --> ControlSource =3D OFF (If =20= I do not do this, keyboard presses on the Ozonic intended to be =20 musical mess with the loop timing in weird ways, display flashes odd =20 things.) Then I set Live (haven't gotten Logic to work yet) Midi Sync =20 preferences / Midi Ports to Sync for Ozonic External (the exchoplex) =20 but I turn both Track and Remote off in that same row (for good =20 measure). I also make sure Ozonic External is not set up as a control =20= surface in the section above. This allows me to press play in Live so I see it's sending out a midi =20= sync signal, then start a part or two in Stylus RMX, then I can record =20= a fairly tight loop of what's playing into the exchoplex, then stop =20 the RMX plugin so it doesn't echo. After that I can proceed with looping as normal, changing tracks and =20 sounds in Live and overdubbing. PROBLEMS / QUESTIONS: 1. Though there is some quantization going on to keep things in sync, =20= I don't think it's always starting at the beginning of the phrase and =20= I'm not sure how to set that... I tried 8th/chcle=3D8 and the 1/8 note =20= option in the Live pull down menu, as well as the 1 Bar option. I'm =20 guessing that's, like, an 8th note in 120 bpm that I'm seeing as a the =20= single steady flash of Midi Sync out in Live... (took me a while to =20 realize you have to hit play in live, not just have the plug in =20 sounding)... are there other options besides this one constant signal =20= tied to a fixed BPM that might suit working with the EDP? 2. It's interesting that it records a small bit of empty time when =20 pressing play in Live but not the record button on the echoplex... =20 seems to fill in the smallest quantized block of time??? Could this be =20= related to the start point of the loop not being where I anticipate it =20= should have been? 3. Sometimes if I try to overdub a new drum part it will sound in sync =20= with what's already been recorded, but not nearly always. It's way hit =20= or miss even if I haven't stopped the EDP or Live and I can't figure =20 out why that might be, though I bet if I focus systematically I'll =20 figure it out... point is though, I'd like to know how to lock it so I =20= don't have to have some weird work flow to keep it working in true =20 sync. It's not perfect by any means... echo effect over time, =20 sometimes start a new RMX drum part and it's just off with what you =20 recorded of the first two, etc. But sometimes it works well enough... =20= weird. 5. I played with Sync =3D OUT on the EDP and In in Live... I forget what = =20 happened now, but a) does anybody think that's worth playing with =20 more? Would there be some advantage I'm not thinking of? I figure if =20 the EDP is in sink with the Live, then arpeggiations and delays =20 applied should be in sync too, but that's the kind of thing I'm asking =20= about. B) is there a way to get the best of both worlds... some sort =20 of in AND out method/settings I might consider? So I could, say, start =20= with a looped sound on the EDP and have that set the BPM in Live or =20 some such? 6. The EDP has a Sync =3D OU5 option that is not in the manual. What is =20= that used for? MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH THANKS FOR ANY THOUGHT, SUGGESTIONS, =20 TROUBLESHOOTING QUESTIONS, ETC. Happy looping. On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:26 PM, David Hayes wrote: > > Thank you... firstly glad to know it works... wasted time on it 10 =20 > years ago, didn't want to repeat. > > Do you know how to set it up? EDP timing synch=3DIN (that from memory, = =20 > it's not in front of me) Anything else for the EDP? How do I set up =20= > Logic or Live to send the signal out... I kind of already did try =20 > this and nothing happens, so obviously I'm missing something(s). > > Much thanks! > > > > > On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Claude Voit wrote: > >> yes it syncs well if the daw spits out decent tight midiclock >> why dont you try nobody has your own exact setup and way of looping =20= >> anyway >> >> Claude >> >> >> David Hayes a =E9crit : >>> Perhaps my previous post was too wordy... >>> Does anyone out there use the EDP synched with their computer/DAW/=20= >>> drum-software midi clock? Does synch it work well? (Record =20 >>> functions as expected, stays in synch over time etc?) >>> The old Oberheim's didn't but I have a new one now. However I =20 >>> haven't tried this in 8-10 years and years so I have no idea how =20 >>> to set it up properly---what settings need to be made in Logic or =20= >>> Ableton Live to use the Specrasonics Stylus RMX plug in for drums =20= >>> (mainly) and yet have the EDP's record/overdub/nextloop functions =20= >>> work as I normally expect them to. >>> Much thanks for any advice on the best way to use Logic (or =20 >>> Mainstage) or Ableton for the routing, effects and drums for use =20 >>> with live EDP looping! >> > --Apple-Mail-2-776603296 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

(sorry = for the repost... first dissapeared and forgot to change subject when = recycling another email for the = second...)

Okay, the only way I can get this = to work is:

If I set the EDP to = Timing-->Sync =3D In  
       =                     =                     =   8th/Cycle =3D 8
         =                     =                     = Quantize =3D CYC

       =                     =       Midi --> ControlSource =3D OFF    (If I = do not do this, keyboard presses on the Ozonic intended to be musical = mess with the loop timing in weird ways, display flashes odd = things.)

Then I set Live (haven't gotten Logic = to work yet) Midi Sync preferences / Midi Ports to Sync for Ozonic = External (the exchoplex) but I turn both Track and Remote off in that = same row (for good measure). I also make sure Ozonic External is not set = up as a control surface in the section = above. 

This allows me to press play in = Live so I see it's sending out a midi sync signal, then start a part or = two in Stylus RMX, then I can record a fairly tight loop of what's = playing into the exchoplex, then stop the RMX plugin so it doesn't = echo. 

After that I can = proceed with looping as normal, changing tracks and sounds in Live and = overdubbing.

PROBLEMS / = QUESTIONS:

1. Though there is = some quantization going on to keep things in sync, I don't think it's = always starting at the beginning of the phrase and I'm not sure how to = set that... I tried 8th/chcle=3D8 and the 1/8 note option in the Live = pull down menu, as well as the 1 Bar option. I'm guessing that's, like, = an 8th note in 120 bpm that I'm seeing as a the single steady flash of = Midi Sync out in Live... (took me a while to realize you have to hit = play in live, not just have the plug in sounding)... are there other = options besides this one constant signal tied to a fixed BPM that might = suit working with the EDP? 

2. It's = interesting that it records a small bit of empty time when pressing play = in Live but not the record button on the echoplex... seems to fill in = the smallest quantized block of time??? Could this be related to the = start point of the loop not being where I anticipate it should have = been?

3. Sometimes if I try to overdub a = new drum part it will sound in sync with what's already been recorded, = but not nearly always. It's way hit or miss even if I haven't stopped = the EDP or Live and I can't figure out why that might be, though I bet = if I focus systematically I'll figure it out... point is though, I'd = like to know how to lock it so I don't have to have some weird work flow = to keep it working in true sync.  It's not perfect by any means... = echo effect over time, sometimes start a new RMX drum part and it's just = off with what you recorded of the first two, etc. But sometimes it works = well enough... weird.

5. I played with = Sync =3D OUT on the EDP and In in Live... I forget what happened now, = but a) does anybody think that's worth playing with more? Would there be = some advantage I'm not thinking of? I figure if the EDP is in sink with = the Live, then arpeggiations  and delays applied should = be in sync too, but that's the kind of thing I'm asking about. B) is = there a way to get the best of both worlds... some sort of in AND out = method/settings I might consider? So I could, say, start with a looped = sound on the EDP and have that set the BPM in Live or some = such?

6. The EDP has a Sync =3D OU5 = option that is not in the manual. What is that used = for?


MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH = THANKS FOR ANY THOUGHT, SUGGESTIONS, TROUBLESHOOTING QUESTIONS, = ETC. 

Happy = looping. 




=




On Sep = 27, 2008, at 2:26 PM, David Hayes wrote:

Thank you... firstly glad to know it works... = wasted time on it 10 years ago, didn't want to repeat.

Do you = know how to set it up? EDP timing synch=3DIN (that from memory, it's not = in front of me) Anything else for the EDP? How do I set up Logic or Live = to send the signal out... I kind of already did try this and nothing = happens, so obviously I'm missing something(s).

Much = thanks!




On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Claude Voit = wrote:

yes it syncs well if the daw = spits out decent tight midiclock
why dont you try nobody has your own exact setup and way = of looping anyway

Claude


David Hayes a = =E9crit :
Perhaps my previous post was too = wordy...
Does anyone out there use the = EDP synched with their computer/DAW/drum-software midi clock? Does synch = it work well? (Record functions as expected, stays in synch over time = etc?)
The old Oberheim's didn't but I have a new one now. = However I haven't tried this in 8-10 years and years so I have no idea = how to set it up properly---what settings need to be made in Logic or = Ableton Live to use the Specrasonics Stylus RMX plug in for drums = (mainly) and yet have the EDP's record/overdub/nextloop functions work = as I normally expect them to.
Much thanks for any advice on = the best way to use Logic (or Mainstage) or Ableton for the routing, = effects and drums for use with live EDP = looping!


= --Apple-Mail-2-776603296-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 14:23:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 244E23BE81; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.30.28] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <48F2BC85.2070002@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!! Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:23:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2008 14:23:41.0014 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A567760:01C92D3F] Resent-Message-ID: <92I3D.A._m.vn18IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:23:44 +0000 (UTC) You are too sweet, Rick. Thank you very much. See you in 3 days! This year, I promise to get my videos of microscopic organisms working as backdrop to me and Bob Sterling's performances. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Man, I just went to look at the latest changes to > the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com) > and it just looks fantastic. > > I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest working > man in experimental & live looping music/music festival production/raise a > family/computer industry field > for an incredible job! > Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our community. We are so > lucky to have your contribution. > > I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful design for the > Website logo, the Festival main poster and the Festival T-shirts. > > Ted is another Rennaisance person...............raising a family, making > beautiful music and driving > a successful and very artistic graphic arts business. > > This is going to be such an exciting and humungous festival this year and > it's become so > cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions. > > Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf drink or an import > beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their thing.........lol > > They deserve it. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 14:30:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2BC63BE8D; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:30:03 EDT Subject: Re: Sony Vaio anyone? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1223908203" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 5000 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:30:11 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1223908203 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael - I've had VAIOs before. I've generally liked them but my last experience was not a good one. The hard drive on my laptop crashed within a day or two of the warranty expiring. The hard drive was good but the motherboard was zapped. When I called SONY to take care of it they basically told me to take a hike. I argued with the guy and pointed out to him that I had been a long time purchaser of SONY products and he continued to tell me I was out of luck but that he would look into it. Shortly after I purchased a laptop from a different manufacturer SONY called me back and announced that they would take care of it and would send me a mailer to send the computer back to them for repair. By then it was too late and I had already removed the hard drive from the VAIO and restored my data using an enclosure. My experience with SONY is that they are generally good products (however, I will never buy another one) but are overpriced in that you can get the same or superior quality from other manufacturers for less money. Regards, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 In a message dated 10/13/2008 7:02:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mp@mpeters.de writes: I think I'll buy a Sony Vaio notebook simply because their LCDs seem to be much brighter than anyone else's, and that would allow me to work outdoors. Now there are many subspecies of Vaio and I'm not sure which one would be best suited for music purposes. Suggestions anyone? -Michael **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) -------------------------------1223908203 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Michael - I've had VAIOs before.  I've generally liked them but my= =20 last experience was not a good one.  The hard drive on my laptop crashe= d=20 within a day or two of the warranty expiring.  The hard drive was good=20= but=20 the motherboard was zapped.  When I called SONY to take care of it they= =20 basically told me to take a hike.  I argued with the guy and pointed ou= t to=20 him that I had been a long time purchaser of SONY products and he continued=20= to=20 tell me I was out of luck but that he would look into it.  Shortly= =20 after I purchased a laptop from a different manufacturer SONY called me back= and=20 announced that they would take care of it and would send me a mailer to send= the=20 computer back to them for repair.  By then it was too late and I had=20 already removed the hard drive from the VAIO and restored my data using an=20 enclosure.  
 
My experience with SONY is that they are generally good products (howev= er,=20 I will never buy another one) but are overpriced in that you can get the sam= e or=20 superior quality from other manufacturers for less money. 
 
Regards,
 
Harry
 
Harry=20 Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th=20 Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908=20
 
In a message dated 10/13/2008 7:02:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 mp@mpeters.de writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I think=20 I'll buy a Sony Vaio notebook simply because their LCDs seem to be
much= =20 brighter than anyone else's, and that would allow me to work=20 outdoors.

Now there are many subspecies of Vaio and I'm not sure wh= ich=20 one would be
best suited for music purposes. Suggestions=20 anyone?

-Michael




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Try it out! -------------------------------1223908203-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 15:12:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D435E3BE81; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gwqVr8GpErCGdLiwQ6OXyTQVhl81vyIBwSzgDlsu66g=; b=AR7nu5J3OM6Hm+XEMtKajUbngzjSv62VuyiY9B4A2n6WUCnqqFxVjIus2aqHrsrSCK Vz7dVdL8EvQLQWpd8vc/FRWdjXbk/o/eaojrvB5Mfnu5Ytp3JsqtGf7hmO0M6rISqcd0 FFyQlLD4xOjlnQ3E7vjfDRwZSlDZ+YcJyIl+w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hUF+xnYNwnAwMldcrkATUCLazXF5E+8pDAyrR4+hizIHSi81pj2gJ1QOU5I4TrjgS6 ug/iNmuUCjV85V1X7VuKIZmLnQF6HGETiXUYA+VuyeF9rNSSzEvApE0cWhTF3ibCNcfu vBMp/qYrF5sZBFxqsyXfOQOhapGWgnxQS/pcs= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810130812w28707047gaeb15dbfded3de3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:12:25 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sony Vaio anyone? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_36178_564728.1223910745857" References: Resent-Message-ID: <75B8VC.A.80B.eV28IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:12:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_36178_564728.1223910745857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I would echo Harry's review. We've had a Viao in the past (was before XP) and had dealings with their support which is not great. We had keyboard damage and were in warranty and they did support it in the end but one sensed they to be pretty much by the book and standoffish. Frankly in the computer industry the only one decent for my dealings has been DELL which I've known more from my work world generally the Latitude series. IBM makes great stable hardware but has a history of not so good tech support again my experience in corporate worlds. I love Apple products and have a G3 powerbook and G4 tower. My kids both have Macbooks (white ones). Though I do love OSX and Apple's sense of fun in their products I'm disappointed in their laptop hardware being so delicate and to a sense cheap in design. We've had to replace now the power adapters for the Macbooks 4 x. I have found generics on ebay that one has outlasted the Apple and the other died though the vendor is honoring it. On the same Macbook though I argued power management issues with my son in the end I just replaced his battery. His Macbook is 1.5 years now. Of all my laptop experience the DELL Latitudes seem to be the most dependable including their service. I have had the luxury of Gold Suppor from them due to corporate paying for it. Jim Goodin www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.jimgoodinmusic.com On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM, wrote: > Michael - I've had VAIOs before. I've generally liked them but my last > experience was not a good one. The hard drive on my laptop crashed within a > day or two of the warranty expiring. The hard drive was good but the > motherboard was zapped. When I called SONY to take care of it they > basically told me to take a hike. I argued with the guy and pointed out to > him that I had been a long time purchaser of SONY products and he continued > to tell me I was out of luck but that he would look into it. Shortly after > I purchased a laptop from a different manufacturer SONY called me back and > announced that they would take care of it and would send me a mailer to send > the computer back to them for repair. By then it was too late and I had > already removed the hard drive from the VAIO and restored my data using an > enclosure. > > My experience with SONY is that they are generally good products (however, > I will never buy another one) but are overpriced in that you can get the > same or superior quality from other manufacturers for less money. > > Regards, > > Harry > > Harry Weinberg, Esq. > Law Offices of Harry Weinberg > 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor > New York, N.Y. 10013 > (212) 989-2908 > > In a message dated 10/13/2008 7:02:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mp@mpeters.de writes: > > I think I'll buy a Sony Vaio notebook simply because their LCDs seem to be > much brighter than anyone else's, and that would allow me to work outdoors. > > Now there are many subspecies of Vaio and I'm not sure which one would be > best suited for music purposes. Suggestions anyone? > > -Michael > > > > > ------------------------------ > New *MapQuest Local* shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, > Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out! > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_36178_564728.1223910745857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
I would echo Harry's review.  We've had = a Viao in the past (was before XP) and had dealings with their support whic= h is not great.  We had keyboard damage and were in warranty and they = did support it in the end but one sensed they to be pretty much by the book= and standoffish.  Frankly in the computer industry the only one decen= t for my dealings has been DELL which I've known more from my work worl= d generally the Latitude series.  IBM makes great stable hardware but = has a history of not so good tech support again my experience in corporate = worlds.  I love Apple products and have a G3 powerbook and G4 tower.&n= bsp; My kids both have Macbooks (white ones).  Though I do love OSX an= d Apple's sense of fun in their products I'm disappointed in their = laptop hardware being so delicate and to a sense cheap in design.  We&= #39;ve had to replace now the power adapters for the Macbooks 4 x.  I = have found generics on ebay that one has outlasted the Apple and the other = died though the vendor is honoring it.  On the same Macbook though I a= rgued power management issues with my son in the end I just replaced his ba= ttery.  His Macbook is 1.5 years now.  Of all my laptop experienc= e the DELL Latitudes seem to be the most dependable including their service= .  I have had the luxury of Gold Suppor from them due to corporate pay= ing for it.
 
Jim Goodin
www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= /div>


 
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM, <HarryEsq@aol.com>= wrote:
Michael - I've had VAIOs before.  I've generally liked th= em but my last experience was not a good one.  The hard drive on my la= ptop crashed within a day or two of the warranty expiring.  The hard d= rive was good but the motherboard was zapped.  When I called SONY to t= ake care of it they basically told me to take a hike.  I argued with t= he guy and pointed out to him that I had been a long time purchaser of SONY= products and he continued to tell me I was out of luck but that he would l= ook into it.  Shortly after I purchased a laptop from a different= manufacturer SONY called me back and announced that they would take care o= f it and would send me a mailer to send the computer back to them for repai= r.  By then it was too late and I had already removed the hard drive f= rom the VAIO and restored my data using an enclosure.  
 
My experience with SONY is that they are generally good products (howe= ver, I will never buy another one) but are overpriced in that you can get t= he same or superior quality from other manufacturers for less money.  =
 
Regards,
 
Harry
 
Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Law= Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th Floor
New York, N.Y.= 10013
(212) 989-2908=20
 
In a message dated 10/13/2008 7:02:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mp@mpeters.de writes:
I think I'll buy a Sony Vaio notebook simply= because their LCDs seem to be
much brighter than anyone else's, and that would allow me to work outdo= ors.

Now there are many subspecies of Vaio and I'm not sure whic= h one would be
best suited for music purposes. Suggestions anyone?

-Michael




New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. D= ining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!



--
The Acoustic Worl= d Guitar of Jim Goodin  - ht= tp://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www= .chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapa= intingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goo= din uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghs= strings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay = Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.co= m
------=_Part_36178_564728.1223910745857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 15:53:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B4983BE86; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 10:53:25 -0500 Subject: RE: Sony Vaio anyone? Thread-Topic: Sony Vaio anyone? Thread-Index: AcktIxawafZ1iNvST3atWxeHypRUCQAJq09A Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530DB4A@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <001101c92d23$1729f220$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <001101c92d23$1729f220$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:53:30 +0000 (UTC) If the bright screen is what you're most interested in, this technology is available in other brands. Sony calls it XBRITE, Toshiba calls it TruBrite, HP calls it BrightView. I don't know if Dell has this option. Here's a fascinating article on the technology :-) http://www.screentekinc.com/pixelbright-lcds.shtml Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 16:08:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF8F93BE8F; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ciwNAO1UcBbLpzBgiElVEBILWARcTJjPxha8Am9tbnaRdnEBnVTcViNRTzvFbGPJ44jdioEjkLY8KJd0rpfePBHSJRmc7rgl8G0oAcqmbyQGeSXqM6802pks/PbakE+ljNS9qALxCa4inYbkJdR/iqToB8/917jIelwEEWE+onw=; X-YMail-OSG: s5qgNqsVM1l3M.Db3pqrlZigEYvJRrgAIhNY3.978t8ibi15ISMzmMiJ192RKRjI6eWsK8.ZnJE3kcoj.7cuVKphD0WYFWns_BH_qfudjkCKD4qfsF.XifLQpn9wkSpRS7lvko2HM.biv3HSZvWmSrO8TEG9UP9BKy_EP8VRtNWpaDsvy8Gf_du08rwm20E1xIBWOckQinJkpOI- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 09:08:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM-i need a lift!!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4759e5740810122013g42c032c7m67bf708f115f8ce0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <96954.11217.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:08:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi Gang, im going to be leaving on monday the 20th at around 3.00pm i wanted to stay for the brunch but my flight is more expensive if i book later,dont understand why but i wanted to ask if anybody is heading towards he airport at that time or could perhaps give me a lift to the San Jose Airport. I am really excited to get to know you all and being part of this great event! cheers and thanx for your help Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Sun, 10/12/08, todd reynolds wrote: > From: todd reynolds > Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!! > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:13 PM > agreed! all looks GREAT... Rah, Rah, and Rah... > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Rick Walker > wrote: > > > Man, I just went to look at the latest changes to > > the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com) > > and it just looks fantastic. > > > > I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest > working > > man in experimental & live looping music/music > festival production/raise a > > family/computer industry field > > for an incredible job! > > Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our > community. We are so lucky > > to have your contribution. > > > > I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful > design for the > > Website logo, the Festival main poster and the > Festival T-shirts. > > > > Ted is another Rennaisance > person...............raising a family, making > > beautiful music and driving > > a successful and very artistic graphic arts business. > > > > This is going to be such an exciting and humungous > festival this year and > > it's become so > > cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions. > > > > Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf > drink or an import > > beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their > thing.........lol > > > > They deserve it. > > > > > > > -- > In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, > Then on to California with Meredith Monk. > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 16:27:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A57AE3BE8F; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:27:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Txv/iS6gI3Lyhopdrl3B/X2wHHT4cncLOGUq0Uzlv28=; b=ZFPOCQLYfMgwweo3oeGaNQfAFjc/ugKOGkepy+Osc/SAJMycvahO9VZxH5A622G2LB rlmG/3buxc5sunn3gFxwg2Fk3+Z0+KPcdWFD3MGB44zQnXWSGmSk3Ik2sDxpL9EaZ0IJ 4vKA4FU9D+BzSWN0+0Rv61DDn1a7xkQP9FIUc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jdiucCLCo8sdmw1Eh2IrkIAWieE9nUOdxODD3Nq/nbOD623EMD801aOF5uamVJl6oa glYd9xqvAnUQVa3X4qxwKzAnzQ13X/lKc0mUS2gOqXhcYWkjBXzWS3DInJKGNzObQ3nH MoXF13shoM1/I3POLPb/v32tecUC0h6qvUv2M= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810130927r20c64fc8q37ad6075faf8df80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:27:32 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM-i need a lift!!!! In-Reply-To: <96954.11217.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_37338_30096484.1223915252442" References: <4759e5740810122013g42c032c7m67bf708f115f8ce0@mail.gmail.com> <96954.11217.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0CQlAD.A.C6D.3b38IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:27:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_37338_30096484.1223915252442 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Luis I look fwd to meeting you and hearing you at this year's fest. I too have to leave Monday AM prob 9ish. I'm planning going bus to San Jose though there is an outside chance I might have a car but trying to get around it. If I do as a plan b for you I could give you a lift if you wanted to leave that AM otherwise join me on das bus. Safe travels and look fwd to meeting you. Jim On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM, L.Angulo wrote: > Hi Gang, > im going to be leaving on monday the 20th at around 3.00pm i wanted to stay > for the brunch but my flight is more expensive if i book later,dont > understand why but i wanted to ask if anybody is heading towards he airport > at that time or could perhaps give me a lift to the San Jose Airport. > I am really excited to get to know you all and being part of this great > event! > cheers and thanx for your help > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Sun, 10/12/08, todd reynolds wrote: > > > From: todd reynolds > > Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks > fabulous!!!! > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:13 PM > > agreed! all looks GREAT... Rah, Rah, and Rah... > > On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Rick Walker > > wrote: > > > > > Man, I just went to look at the latest changes to > > > the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com) > > > and it just looks fantastic. > > > > > > I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest > > working > > > man in experimental & live looping music/music > > festival production/raise a > > > family/computer industry field > > > for an incredible job! > > > Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our > > community. We are so lucky > > > to have your contribution. > > > > > > I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful > > design for the > > > Website logo, the Festival main poster and the > > Festival T-shirts. > > > > > > Ted is another Rennaisance > > person...............raising a family, making > > > beautiful music and driving > > > a successful and very artistic graphic arts business. > > > > > > This is going to be such an exciting and humungous > > festival this year and > > > it's become so > > > cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions. > > > > > > Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf > > drink or an import > > > beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their > > thing.........lol > > > > > > They deserve it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, > > Then on to California with Meredith Monk. > > > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_37338_30096484.1223915252442 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Luis I look fwd to meeting you and hearing you at this  year's fest.  I too have to leave Monday AM prob 9ish.  I'm planning going bus to San Jose though there is an outside chance I might have a car but trying to get around it. If I do as a plan b for you I could give you a lift if you wanted to leave that AM otherwise join me on das bus.  Safe travels and look fwd to meeting you.
 
Jim

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:08 PM, L.Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Gang,
im going to be leaving on monday the 20th at around 3.00pm i wanted to stay for the brunch but my flight is more expensive if i book later,dont understand why but i wanted to ask if anybody is heading towards he airport at that time or could perhaps give me a lift to the San Jose Airport.
I am really excited to get to know you all and being part of this great event!
cheers and thanx for your help
Luis

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- On Sun, 10/12/08, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!!
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 8:13 PM
> agreed!  all looks GREAT... Rah, Rah, and Rah...
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Rick Walker
> <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
> > Man,  I just went to look at the latest changes to
> > the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com)
> > and it just looks fantastic.
> >
> > I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest
> working
> > man in experimental & live looping music/music
> festival production/raise a
> > family/computer industry field
> > for an incredible job!
> > Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our
> community.   We are so lucky
> > to have your contribution.
> >
> > I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful
> design for the
> > Website logo, the Festival main poster and the
> Festival T-shirts.
> >
> > Ted is another Rennaisance
> person...............raising a family,  making
> > beautiful music and driving
> > a successful and very artistic graphic arts business.
> >
> > This is going to be such an exciting and humungous
> festival this year and
> > it's become so
> > cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions.
> >
> > Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf
> drink or an import
> > beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their
> thing.........lol
> >
> > They deserve it.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October,
> Then on to California with Meredith Monk.
>
> http://blog.toddreynolds.com
> http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic







--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_37338_30096484.1223915252442-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 19:41:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FBEB3BE93; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar8EAPg880hMRBAO/2dsb2JhbACDUycYiGWwRAWBZw Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" Subject: 10.16.08 > The PiNG presents impossible structures featuring LITTLE OAK ANIMAL + SPACENOIZ Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:41:06 -0400 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000001c92d6b$a35691c0$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:41:13 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 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The music on this release is copyright rik maclean 2008, and may not be used or reproduced without the artist's express permission.=20 http://www.pingthings.com/ptnr006marastorment.zip New releases will be added to the ping things site on the 22nd of each month. In the coming months you'll be able to download exclusive work from Building Castles out of Matchsticks, Remora and more. http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Check out the AMBiENT PiNG RADiO podcast. Currently posted are the ALMOST LiVE SERiES sets by Numina, MWVM, NAW, Panoramaroid, Remora, Resonant Drift, Salvagesound, and URM. Also posted are the ping things net label releases by Spatial Correlation (Les Landes), Phil Ogison (The Perfect City) Andrew Duke (Aqua) and Nunc Stans (Land). http://www.ambientpingradio.blogspot.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Other things of interest: . New Adventures in Sound Art is currently presenting SOUNDplay=20 which is a meeting point for experimentation in new media and=20 sound art pushing the boundaries and encouraging new fusions=20 of image, sound and text. SOUNDplay 2008 includes multi-media=20 performances, installations, workshops and videomusic screenings.=20 Artists include Living Cinema (Bob Ostertag/Pierre H=E9bert),=20 Laura Kavanagh/Ian Birse, Steve Heimbecker, Jane Tingley=20 and David McCallum/Erik Martinson plus many more.=20 Catch the SOUNDplay performances @ the Theatre Centre,=20 1087 Queen Street West on October 21 - 25, 8pm,=20 $15/10 (free with concert pass). For more info: http://www.naisa.ca . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 21:25:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2C43BE93; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=ovaywFg904zFms9lS6gZpmOUCjErHQzWyHreDuKwwfo=; b=irEHv1ZwwAmuHlFPMCn3MqWCNhPxIR3dwcgpDpFQiCynq+Soq37ZiTxhiutdi9gNPc o3hSnUEjCyvtaRs9ZtEzVPqUTNw7BYIWKBzevZrW/46Err9aGoy4JgAcpbq6otSFL9J+ SFQluxxwuYD0syj+SZlIwiygnVfOv0Cz/lR1w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BiRuygtgTWdmd4f+WMRzo/s/XY3s6QYqLtKY1OgneCgW8ITI1/9oTMrIkqiyWWo3yo RmNraxnIHG+4bPGFPN6LBxMwN3oQ3GjWVpA2INSE7G+BHOr/t9n4lG/+dLmT5hiCjfOr +OOQXNpjWZBOzSOH+lxE+nCA1rMxLhqkZ/Zvk= Message-ID: <47126df40810131425j574cd826yd1df9fe8d06b8d41@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:25:30 -0700 From: "Jon Luther" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_106843_12438933.1223933130037" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:25:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_106843_12438933.1223933130037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi there. I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough. Has anyone done this? Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses? I gotta know! Thanks so much ------=_Part_106843_12438933.1223933130037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi there.  I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough.  Has anyone done this?  Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses?  I gotta know!

Thanks so much
------=_Part_106843_12438933.1223933130037-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 21:38:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0023F3BE99; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=5UGywHHOT56f4l54VCxyXrGkiCx27MmNx56imO7t5WqQsRYqRjn00P7x0ZsE2F4FESFTEwYfEZ1vlFgdBf9ztK+a6H9Mbo4KFHw8/5t08mZkcFss5fhEwk4cFE3Nz6cn2TxosoudNxnXG/iQ6Yz/taK81FlakJ8ZIT1s3lPCFDI=; X-YMail-OSG: fLyH.00VM1lCjMXWedTVfqEsiADkDaqFWQySxm24QmNYdmwzTZyVOgUArmLZKqmh3H2Xxft6bgaxJnH93TxW3LdLzXjc9E3mcj6yQgJmbhlimNZQywOQNH9tHnEWVAfxskTWlFz18s6G1NteZW8D9nPWbitNdHKYF9sGQQUNVgUUX89gBqez_umUkeA. X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, info@krispenhartung.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1561974573-1223933899=:52838" Message-ID: <556938.52838.qm@web42107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-1561974573-1223933899=:52838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris, =A0 First, I appreciate all the work you're doing to make this possible. Would it be possible to add the address for Pearl Alley Studios to the webs= ite? I may not be the only person (in the potential audience) who doesn't know w= here it is. =A0 A google search gives me 120 Pearl Alley, Santa Cruz, CA, but I'm always a = fan of an event website having as specific information on location as possi= ble... =A0 Thanks if you can manage it. =A0 JK --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: From: Krispen Hartung Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:23 AM You are too sweet, Rick. Thank you very much. See you in 3 days! This year, I promise to get my videos of microscopic organisms working as= =20 backdrop to me and Bob Sterling's performances. :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 > Man, I just went to look at the latest changes to > the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com) > and it just looks fantastic. > > I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest working > man in experimental & live looping music/music festival production/raise a=20 > family/computer industry field > for an incredible job! > Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our community. We are so=20 > lucky to have your contribution. > > I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful design for the > Website logo, the Festival main poster and the Festival T-shirts. > > Ted is another Rennaisance person...............raising a family, making= =20 > beautiful music and driving > a successful and very artistic graphic arts business. > > This is going to be such an exciting and humungous festival this year and= =20 > it's become so > cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions. > > Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf drink or an import= =20 > beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their thing.........lol > > They deserve it. >=20 --0-1561974573-1223933899=:52838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Kris,
 
First, I appreciate all the work you're doing to make this possible.
Would it be possible to add the address for Pearl Alley Studios to the website?
I may not be the only person (in the potential audience) who doesn't know where it is.
 
A google search gives me 120 Pearl Alley, Santa Cruz, CA, but I'm always a fan of an event website having as specific information on location as possible...
 
Thanks if you can manage it.
 
JK

--- On Mon, 10/13/08, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
From: Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>
Subject: Re: WWW.Y2KLOOPFEST.COM looks fabulous!!!!
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 7:23 AM

You are too sweet, Rick. Thank you very much. See you in 3 days!

This year, I promise to get my videos of microscopic organisms working as 
backdrop to me and Bob Sterling's performances. :)

Kris

----- Original Message ----- 


> Man,  I just went to look at the latest changes to
> the Y2K8 Loopfestival website (www.y2kloopfest.com)
> and it just looks fantastic.
>
> I wanted to thank Krispen Hartung who is the hardest working
> man in experimental & live looping music/music festival
production/raise a 
> family/computer industry field
> for an incredible job!
> Thanks Kris, for tithing so much energy to our community.   We are so 
> lucky to have your contribution.
>
> I also wanted to thank Ted Killian for his beautiful design for the
> Website logo, the Festival main poster and the Festival T-shirts.
>
> Ted is another Rennaisance person...............raising a family,  making 
> beautiful music and driving
> a successful and very artistic graphic arts business.
>
> This is going to be such an exciting and humungous festival this year and 
> it's become so
> cool because of Ted and Kris' contributions.
>
> Please take these guys out for a meal or a top shelf drink or an import 
> beer or some wheatgrass juice if that's their thing.........lol
>
> They deserve it.
>
--0-1561974573-1223933899=:52838-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 21:38:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 408CA3BEB2; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:26 UTC Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7A.45E3E7D6" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:25:53 -0500 Message-ID: <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A998@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> In-Reply-To: <47126df40810131425j574cd826yd1df9fe8d06b8d41@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? Thread-Index: AckteiYHBsAepD5mQ3asu99nIlKovwAACoHg From: "Jim Bailey" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7A.45E3E7D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory? -----Original Message----- From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? =09 =09 Hi there. I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough. Has anyone done this? Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses? I gotta know! =09 Thanks so much =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7A.45E3E7D6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
isnt=20 the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon = Luther=20 [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, = 2008=20 4:26 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS = RC-20?

Hi there.  I was wondering if you can upgrade = memory in the=20 BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough.  Has anyone done = this?  Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses?  I = gotta=20 know!

Thanks so much
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In-Reply-To: <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A998@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_107199_8263886.1223934601908" References: <47126df40810131425j574cd826yd1df9fe8d06b8d41@mail.gmail.com> <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A998@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:50:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_107199_8263886.1223934601908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal. I was hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage. Is this possible? Thanks! On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: > isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory? > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? > > Hi there. I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, > because 5 minutes just isn't enough. Has anyone done this? Does anyone > know what kind of memory it uses? I gotta know! > > Thanks so much > > ------=_Part_107199_8263886.1223934601908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal.  I was hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage.  Is this possible?

Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey <jbailey@wsimail.com> wrote:
isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20?

Hi there.  I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough.  Has anyone done this?  Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses?  I gotta know!

Thanks so much

------=_Part_107199_8263886.1223934601908-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 21:52:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA9373BEA2; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:52:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7D.EDD50A76" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:52:04 -0500 Message-ID: <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A999@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> In-Reply-To: <47126df40810131450v17741ca2jc55f7fcd45816212@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? Thread-Index: AcktfZOd9xboZBhWSp6rhSgSzKiE2gAADSlw From: "Jim Bailey" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:52:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7D.EDD50A76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry I ment RC-20XL. But not to my knowledge. The XL version offers more space on the flash. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? =09 =09 well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal. I was hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage. Is this possible? =09 Thanks! =09 =09 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: =09 isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory? -----Original Message----- From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? =09 =09 Hi there. I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough. Has anyone done this? Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses? I gotta know! =09 Thanks so much =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7D.EDD50A76 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Sorry=20 I ment RC-20XL.  But not to my knowledge.  The XL version = offers more=20 space on the flash.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon = Luther=20 [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, = 2008=20 4:50 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS = RC-20?

well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new = pedal.  I was=20 hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage.  Is = this=20 possible?

Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey = <jbailey@wsimail.com> = wrote:
isnt the = RX-20XL 19 minutes=20 of memory?
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: = Monday,=20 October 13, 2008 4:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS = RC-20?

Hi there.  I was wondering if you can upgrade = memory in=20 the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough.  Has = anyone done=20 this?  Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses?  I = gotta=20 know!

Thanks so=20 = much

------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7D.EDD50A76-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 21:57:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDC523BEA4; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ZI2+11GPkixH5IRPZx5R0yfnYHamn+e4J54rCuMuMxk=; b=mssvFwbEKlL8L8ot1O0sL0nQOg9kHDN2phQTnYTFys174oSk/c2mWJfNPYtxfnAyQ7 JzDxeTWwrhRAap1DpXzwjGfELHiijnhPodGBKvGJmzfRb+IfAqTHH6MTIklCeoCfziZO SKC2Wzz3ng2dR5E5u7bqE+/XkdfLHeA7XfIlQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=e7xoYWEtiLFcQzH9DRqWVaksi+MABlpeN35djz2b5BQTfAwHWBkv8s/KCt0L3KWNRg /XngQo02Jp0IUc4rNzRHNwX4cC0BWqeashsfEq7Bur8V8P3OpUaXf2MVOlHOo9nFg39u x0WNt84Pk5K6O3V+i1sfeFvUaeJrdx+e4WYP8= Message-ID: <47126df40810131457n1a09d94cu6ab0472533c05f5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:57:40 -0700 From: "Jon Luther" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? In-Reply-To: <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A999@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_141205_32156326.1223935060341" References: <47126df40810131450v17741ca2jc55f7fcd45816212@mail.gmail.com> <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A999@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:57:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_141205_32156326.1223935060341 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Is it possible to just replace the flash with a bigger flash? Would it most likely be a standard flash drive? On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: > Sorry I ment RC-20XL. But not to my knowledge. The XL version offers > more space on the flash. > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? > > well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal. I was hoping to > upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage. Is this possible? > > Thanks! > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: > >> isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Subject:* Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? >> >> Hi there. I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, >> because 5 minutes just isn't enough. Has anyone done this? Does anyone >> know what kind of memory it uses? I gotta know! >> >> Thanks so much >> >> > ------=_Part_141205_32156326.1223935060341 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Is it possible to just replace the flash with a bigger flash?

Would it most likely be a standard flash drive?

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Jim Bailey <jbailey@wsimail.com> wrote:
Sorry I ment RC-20XL.  But not to my knowledge.  The XL version offers more space on the flash.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20?

well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal.  I was hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage.  Is this possible?

Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey <jbailey@wsimail.com> wrote:
isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20?

Hi there.  I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough.  Has anyone done this?  Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses?  I gotta know!

Thanks so much


------=_Part_141205_32156326.1223935060341-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 22:05:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3DB13BEBE; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7F.AFF31FD4" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:04:39 -0500 Message-ID: <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A99A@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> In-Reply-To: <47126df40810131457n1a09d94cu6ab0472533c05f5@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? Thread-Index: AcktfqTbHfJxx6kURkWdf/1lvNjliAAANKtg From: "Jim Bailey" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:05:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7F.AFF31FD4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable its hard wired. im sure it could be done but it isnt built for any kind of upgrade. I use an XL and the 19 minutes seem pretty beefy. Never really had pace problems unlil I have 1-2 full songs recorded to tracks plus the applied tracks built during shows. -----Original Message----- From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:58 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? =09 =09 Is it possible to just replace the flash with a bigger flash? =09 Would it most likely be a standard flash drive? =09 =09 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: =09 Sorry I ment RC-20XL. But not to my knowledge. The XL version offers more space on the flash. =09 -----Original Message----- From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]=20 =09 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =09 Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? =09 =09 well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal. I was hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage. Is this possible? =09 Thanks! =09 =09 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: =09 isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory? -----Original Message----- From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? =09 =09 Hi there. I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough. Has anyone done this? Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses? I gotta know! =09 Thanks so much =09 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7F.AFF31FD4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
its=20 hard wired.  im sure it could be done but it isnt built for any = kind of=20 upgrade.  I use an XL and the 19 minutes seem pretty beefy.  = Never=20 really had pace problems unlil I have 1-2 full songs recorded to tracks = plus the=20 applied tracks built during shows.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon = Luther=20 [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, = 2008=20 4:58 PM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS = RC-20?

Is it possible to just replace the flash with a bigger=20 flash?

Would it most likely be a standard flash drive?

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Jim Bailey = <jbailey@wsimail.com> = wrote:
Sorry I ment = RC-20XL. =20 But not to my knowledge.  The XL version offers more space on = the=20 flash.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon = Luther=20 [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50=20 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade = memory in=20 the BOSS RC-20?

well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new = pedal.  I=20 was hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more = storage.  Is=20 this possible?

Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim = Bailey <jbailey@wsimail.com> wrote:
isnt the = RX-20XL 19=20 minutes of memory?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Luther = [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: = Monday,=20 October 13, 2008 4:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS=20 RC-20?

Hi there.  I was wondering if you can = upgrade memory=20 in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough.  = Has=20 anyone done this?  Does anyone know what kind of memory = it=20 uses?  I gotta know!

Thanks so=20 = much


------_=_NextPart_001_01C92D7F.AFF31FD4-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 22:09:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A58C53BEB9; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gV4xHPQXFNqugrv0BXPyRUtTdfB8VbTyMDyTgbRlzm8=; b=VxTVinqaedYFV7ljF9ZPkBtIaCbb7cEUobfS9LaQJ2D6sLJ0vrELJpr1OVCQXS8T25 FJKYYp3hpa72FGMXH5odIy+Wok0SYkiTUVs99+xo7Zgv/DjetWDNjlaULKsAAKRRgIM3 usMV9DsUbiVxFhCU8YPCZ5I4oUWIH2ED1IfTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=g5ChsE7onFa+NILtoHn2NJpqL517XjvnmZsZiZ6dBMr8HaWq/5+W0NNq/WgjEXWjWc 8HgkahZDqjl6E4d4KOhpFZkBSYSmS5h0oLhbPudzw2laOhv2ovJ+5fw86dd0hmicPreM sLBW9EcEBcapeYnLy/GZPD143zn1xq+TpBLOk= Message-ID: <47126df40810131509r64a5a1ecxae3fbbfb321f7d97@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:09:15 -0700 From: "Jon Luther" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? In-Reply-To: <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A99A@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_141305_20414046.1223935755103" References: <47126df40810131457n1a09d94cu6ab0472533c05f5@mail.gmail.com> <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A99A@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> Resent-Message-ID: <1LBbzB.A.yjE.Mc88IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:09:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_141305_20414046.1223935755103 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Do you know what the capacity is on your XL? 19 minutes seems about the time I would need. Do you think I could just buy a flash drive, locate the current one, and replace it? Why does BOSS have to make it so difficult? :( Jon On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: > its hard wired. im sure it could be done but it isnt built for any kind > of upgrade. I use an XL and the 19 minutes seem pretty beefy. Never really > had pace problems unlil I have 1-2 full songs recorded to tracks plus the > applied tracks built during shows. > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 4:58 PM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? > > Is it possible to just replace the flash with a bigger flash? > > Would it most likely be a standard flash drive? > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: > >> Sorry I ment RC-20XL. But not to my knowledge. The XL version offers >> more space on the flash. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Subject:* Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? >> >> well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal. I was hoping to >> upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage. Is this possible? >> >> Thanks! >> >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey wrote: >> >>> isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory? >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> *From:* Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM >>> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> *Subject:* Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? >>> >>> Hi there. I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, >>> because 5 minutes just isn't enough. Has anyone done this? Does anyone >>> know what kind of memory it uses? I gotta know! >>> >>> Thanks so much >>> >>> >> > ------=_Part_141305_20414046.1223935755103 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Do you know what the capacity is on your XL?  19 minutes seems about the time I would need. Do you think I could just buy a flash drive, locate the current one, and replace it?

Why does BOSS have to make it so difficult? :(

Jon

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Jim Bailey <jbailey@wsimail.com> wrote:
its hard wired.  im sure it could be done but it isnt built for any kind of upgrade.  I use an XL and the 19 minutes seem pretty beefy.  Never really had pace problems unlil I have 1-2 full songs recorded to tracks plus the applied tracks built during shows.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:58 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20?

Is it possible to just replace the flash with a bigger flash?

Would it most likely be a standard flash drive?

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Jim Bailey <jbailey@wsimail.com> wrote:
Sorry I ment RC-20XL.  But not to my knowledge.  The XL version offers more space on the flash.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:50 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20?

well yeah, but I am not looking to buy a new pedal.  I was hoping to upgrade the memory so it can hold more storage.  Is this possible?

Thanks!

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jim Bailey <jbailey@wsimail.com> wrote:
isnt the RX-20XL 19 minutes of memory?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Luther [mailto:jonathanluther@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:26 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20?

Hi there.  I was wondering if you can upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20, because 5 minutes just isn't enough.  Has anyone done this?  Does anyone know what kind of memory it uses?  I gotta know!

Thanks so much



------=_Part_141305_20414046.1223935755103-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 13 23:02:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B62A3BEBE; Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <59C97D0621D4427EA1EE8CD24E272A5D@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <47126df40810131457n1a09d94cu6ab0472533c05f5@mail.gmail.com> <754FACAF985AF346A216CAE674CA22A6D3A99A@es002.WSI-MAIN.COM> <47126df40810131509r64a5a1ecxae3fbbfb321f7d97@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Is it possible to upgrade memory in the BOSS RC-20? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:02:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01C92D4D.269CED00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:02:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C92D4D.269CED00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't specifically have any knowledge of Boss' design, but it isn't = always possible for companies to design a product with that type of = expandibility. I really don't think that they tried to make it = difficult. I'm sure that the XL is simply a redesign that uses a = different set of components. It is unlikely that you can simply replace = a component in the RC-20 and get it to use more memory. It is highly = probable that the software only expects a certain amount of memory. ----- Original Message -----=20 Why does BOSS have to make it so difficult? :( ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01C92D4D.269CED00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't specifically have any knowledge = of Boss'=20 design, but it isn't always possible for companies to design a product = with that=20 type of expandibility.  I really don't think that they tried to = make it=20 difficult.  I'm sure that the XL is simply a redesign that uses a = different=20 set of components.  It is unlikely that you can simply replace a = component=20 in the RC-20 and get it to use more memory.  It is highly probable = that the=20 software only expects a certain amount of memory.
----- Original Message -----
Why does=20 BOSS have to make it so difficult? = :(
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 01:25:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AB803BEC3; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=MD7tAC6uEiwNKaEsYpR7C8W1d/0qzvcDAjn42xFA4/g=; b=Y1DhgU8+uMfrEjPs2Zg72CRRHA7TAjYqrzvyLijRChyI3+AmHBGsmcefglquieRZPO 9/Zm6QMmbFtBUO6FP8ak9G5C9QZCDAQVCZ+4UK+Z0KgttCODhpv8GMFPlrng3YObVToC dCbsdP9EdLnZeVz+ezH1QApCS9nq9ON7WGUlA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=LdHPAXAN0AZTKW4tAuLU2wS1WVGGVx35BokR5q8qws715bDGLja5cZt8oR7+tuLeSL SxgfO61seEFy6Lw58+2/2SwvZvWLoj8x559nvBVITxM7pOncxwTb7YqSaq60MyMAM8Ln 606hVG3zTVVmxa5FdL6ch30hHo05yvQpajp1g= Message-ID: <8c82d1660810131825w63f8435eu235aaa525cedfdf8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:25:26 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Might have to sell my echoplexii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_325_23825902.1223947526857" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:25:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_325_23825902.1223947526857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everybody. I might have to sell some of my precious toys. Sigh. Including my two Gibson Echoplex (s), and my SKB pedalboard w/3 space rack, which I think is called a ps100 or a ps110. It looks like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/SKB-Pedal-Board-w-3-space-rack_W0QQitemZ330278539247QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330278539247&_trkparms=72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 That is NOT my auction, just an illustration of what mine is. Also, I have a M-Audio Trigger Finger which I have programmed to control the edps. Its also labelled and decorated. The EDPs are less than a year old, in fantastic shape, with only very minor scratches on top from being inserted/removed from the above rack. One of the foot controllers is even unopened. I'd prefer to keep this in the LD family before going to ebay. I'm willing to entertain any reasonable offers, either for pieces or the whole shebang. If you live in the NYC metro area, then we can meet up. Maybe my bummer can be your benefit. ------=_Part_325_23825902.1223947526857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi everybody.

I might have to sell some of my precious toys. Sigh. Including my two Gibson Echoplex (s), and my SKB pedalboard w/3 space rack, which I think is called a ps100 or a ps110. It looks like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/SKB-Pedal-Board-w-3-space-rack_W0QQitemZ330278539247QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item330278539247&_trkparms=72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

That is NOT my auction, just an illustration of what mine is. Also, I have a M-Audio Trigger Finger which I have programmed to control the edps. Its also labelled and decorated.

The EDPs are less than a year old, in fantastic shape, with only very minor scratches on top from being inserted/removed from the above rack. One of the foot controllers is even unopened.

I'd prefer to keep this in the LD family before going to ebay. I'm willing to entertain any reasonable offers, either for pieces or the whole shebang. If you live in the NYC metro area, then we can meet up.

Maybe my bummer can be your benefit.
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boundary=Apple-Mail-2-829143837 Message-Id: From: topu lyo Subject: Re: Might have to sell my echoplexii Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:57:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:58:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-829143837 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hey patrick i am very interested in buying your echoplex how much?? On Oct 13, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Patrick Suler wrote: > Hi everybody. > > I might have to sell some of my precious toys. Sigh. Including my > two Gibson Echoplex (s), and my SKB pedalboard w/3 space rack, > which I think is called a ps100 or a ps110. It looks like this: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/SKB-Pedal-Board-w-3-space- > rack_W0QQitemZ330278539247QQcmdZViewItem? > hash=item330278539247&_trkparms=72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240% > 3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 > > That is NOT my auction, just an illustration of what mine is. Also, > I have a M-Audio Trigger Finger which I have programmed to control > the edps. Its also labelled and decorated. > > The EDPs are less than a year old, in fantastic shape, with only > very minor scratches on top from being inserted/removed from the > above rack. One of the foot controllers is even unopened. > > I'd prefer to keep this in the LD family before going to ebay. I'm > willing to entertain any reasonable offers, either for pieces or > the whole shebang. If you live in the NYC metro area, then we can > meet up. > > Maybe my bummer can be your benefit. --Apple-Mail-2-829143837 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hey patrick=A0

i am very interested in buying your = echoplex =A0how much??


On Oct 13, = 2008, at 9:25 PM, Patrick Suler wrote:

Hi everybody.

I might have to sell some of my = precious toys. Sigh. Including my two Gibson Echoplex (s), and my SKB = pedalboard w/3 space rack, which I think is called a ps100 or a ps110. = It looks like this:

http://cgi.ebay.= com/SKB-Pedal-Board-w-3-space-rack_W0QQitemZ330278539247QQcmdZViewItem?has= h=3Ditem330278539247&_trkparms=3D72%3A1205|39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A12|240%3= A1318&_trksid=3Dp3286.c0.m14

That is NOT my auction, = just an illustration of what mine is. Also, I have a M-Audio Trigger = Finger which I have programmed to control the edps. Its also labelled = and decorated.

The EDPs are less than a year old, in fantastic = shape, with only very minor scratches on top from being inserted/removed = from the above rack. One of the foot controllers is even unopened.
=
I'd prefer to keep this in the LD family before going to ebay. I'm = willing to entertain any reasonable offers, either for pieces or the = whole shebang. If you live in the NYC metro area, then we can meet = up.

Maybe my bummer can be your = benefit.

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Bellow is my resident contact address and my telephone line Siege social: 01bp 452001 -Ouagadougou 01 Email: () Mr IBRAHIM MUSA. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 04:35:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50C243BECC; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:35:12 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Crazy idea to help us grow our community Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8B6JgB.A.YgE.5FC9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:35:05 +0000 (UTC) I just gave away a computer I inherited from my father to a local Goth/Industrial musician on the proviso that he use it for making music and it suddenly occured to me: A lot of us have old computers laying around that would be fine for doing some live or even canned looping. Personally, I have an old 1.3 ghz P4 sitting in my house that is all taken apart (with the best intentions of rebuilding it and upgrading until I ended up buying a newer one). I was thinking it would be a very cool thing is anyone has this stuff lying around and have Matthias Grob or Andrew Ostler or Jeff Larson or whoever has invented some looping softare to donate a looping software package to said old used computers and give them away to young aspiring live loopers who might not have the money to purchase such a thing. In the year 1998, two good friends of mine gifted me a Mac computer and basically baby sat me into understanding how to use it to make music just because they had the faith in me that I would do something really creative with it. Now, ten years later I make probably 1/3 to 1/2 of my income because I've really learned how to do it on both platforms. I never could have afforded to do it at the time and now I'm teaching young musicians how to make music with a computer. A small miracle. Does anyone have such a computer laying around? I imagine it would need to be at least a P4 or equivalent processor of a 1ghz or more or the equivalent Mac computer. It's just a thought, but I thought it might be a cool thing to do ritually at the Y2K festival each year. Towards that end, read my next email to the list. Cheers, yours in creativity and fostering community, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 04:40:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2362A3BECA; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F422D4.8020105@cruzio.com> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:40:52 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: 1st Y2K Live LoopFestival Endowment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:40:47 +0000 (UTC) I'm pleased to announce that the Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival has chosen talented newbie looper, Jack Schultz (performing at 12:30 on Saturday at the main festival) as our 1st Y2K LOOPFESTIVAL endowment winner. a few months ago, I presented Jack with a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller/Loop pedal and enjoined him to learn how to use it and then perform as a newbie at the festival. Jack has progressed at a really impressive pace and even fell so deeply in love with it that he went out and purchases an EchoPLex with Loop IV software by Aurisis (thanks, Matthias Grob, Kim Flint and everyone else responible for that). Anyway, I want to try and do something similar each year at the festival to encourage talented young (and old) musicians to join our community and start using looping gear creatively. I will each year, money permitting. Anyway, congratulations Jack. We are all very proud to have you in our community. 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 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 07:35:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 819403BED2; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:35:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 494 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:35:20 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Mountain Cablevision Ltd Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> References: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-848878871 Message-Id: From: Chris Subject: Re: Crazy idea to help us grow our community Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:26:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Rick Walker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <27DaDB.A.8X.4uE9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:35:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-848878871 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:35 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I just gave away a computer I inherited from my father to > a local Goth/Industrial musician on the proviso that he > use it for making music and it suddenly occured to me: > > > A lot of us have old computers laying around that would be fine for > doing some live or even canned looping. > > Personally, I have an old 1.3 ghz P4 sitting in my house that is > all taken apart (with the best intentions of rebuilding it and > upgrading > until I ended up buying a newer one). > > I was thinking it would be a very cool thing is anyone has this > stuff lying > around and have Matthias Grob or Andrew Ostler or Jeff Larson or > whoever > has invented some looping softare to donate a looping software package > to said old used computers and give them away to young aspiring > live loopers who might not have the money to purchase such a thing. > > In the year 1998, two good friends of mine gifted me a Mac > computer and > basically baby sat me into understanding how to use it to make music > just because they had the faith in me that I would do something > really creative > with it. Now, ten years later I make probably 1/3 to 1/2 of my > income because > I've really learned how to do it on both platforms. > > I never could have afforded to do it at the time and now I'm > teaching young musicians > how to make music with a computer. A small miracle. > > Does anyone have such a computer laying around? > I imagine it would need to be at least a P4 or equivalent processor > of a 1ghz or more > or the equivalent Mac computer. > > It's just a thought, but I thought it might be a cool thing to do > ritually at the Y2K festival each year. > > Towards that end, read my next email to the list. > > Cheers, yours in creativity and fostering community, Rick Walker > Chris magestic12@mountaincable.net --Apple-Mail-1-848878871 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Oct 14, 2008, at 12:35 AM, Rick Walker wrote:

I just gave away a computer I inherited from my = father to
a local Goth/Industrial musician = on the proviso that he
use it for making music and = it suddenly occured to me:


A lot of us have old computers laying around that = would be fine for
doing some live or even canned = looping.

Personally,=A0 = I have an old 1.3 ghz P4 sitting in my house that is
all taken apart (with the best intentions of = rebuilding it and upgrading
until I ended = up buying a newer one).

I was thinking it would be a = very cool thing is anyone has this stuff lying
around and have Matthias Grob or Andrew Ostler or = Jeff Larson or whoever
has invented some looping = softare to donate a looping software package
to said old used computers and give them away to = young aspiring
live loopers who might not have = the money to purchase such a thing.

In the year 1998,=A0 two good friends of mine = gifted me a Mac computer and
basically = baby sat me into understanding how to use it to make music
just because they had the faith in me that I would = do something really creative
with it.=A0 =A0 =A0 Now, ten years later = I make probably 1/3 to 1/2 of my income because
I've really learned how to do it on both = platforms.

I never could have afforded to do it at the time and = now I'm teaching young musicians
how to make = music with a computer.=A0 =A0 = A small miracle.

Does anyone have such a computer = laying around?
I imagine it would need to be at = least a P4 or equivalent processor of a 1ghz or more
or the equivalent Mac computer.

It's = just a thought, but I thought it might be a cool thing to do ritually at = the Y2K festival each year.

Towards that end, =A0 read my next email to the = list.

Cheers,=A0 = yours in creativity and fostering community,=A0 =A0 Rick Walker

=

magestic12@mountaincable.net<= /a>



= --Apple-Mail-1-848878871-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 09:35:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF8DD3BED9; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:35:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009801c92de0$3327cb60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: OT - compressor Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:35:30 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0095_01C92DF9.584BD080" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:35:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C92DF9.584BD080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i need a small, tabletop, guitar pedal style compressor with stereo = inputs. i would like to use it on my electronica set with the electribe = er1. any suggestions? thanks and best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C92DF9.584BD080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,
 
i need a small, tabletop, guitar pedal style compressor with stereo = inputs.=20 i would like to use it on my electronica set with the electribe er1. any = suggestions?
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
------=_NextPart_000_0095_01C92DF9.584BD080-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 09:40:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96A003BED8; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=UtEUUU9PFvX8rBxo76LOjOl5wqzPvMw4SUq4kyY+zgk=; b=m4eVqgdmk6q5QKIF6fP4HeJtkJ/VgO/zoJvHY5pj2W4qs1n+Gdj9dfXxEQzSGl7bNc 7E3NRFfQ5SBOHdgQ5xNNtdayKWXgXeNZw8v6txnDsEi3AyxPK451Js51OXSNFaWZYzgr co7SgWIuZVYQ8KfiDzJaVf4lir+MnTheUJMhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=B21UlsG56ZqasGCb7A4PDT6cfS46aRQLqBgttSwP02W1OTT1F7h6QjbKS/1g3N+MR4 5YAYSQh58e2LmfQHyEhoATfZ/Z0fOTkrjq5fnub26ILNUxTOeBgtOgOqQcz0M5OuwKkd w2wspRm7y+Pn4TV8uYSU/afGng2CRaU7XepB4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810140240o27481d85g9dbb5be1d695529a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:40:00 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT - compressor In-Reply-To: <009801c92de0$3327cb60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <009801c92de0$3327cb60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem, The RNC (Really Nice Compressor) is very good when run in Really Nice Mode. I own one myself and can confirm the good things other users say about it. http://www.fmraudio.com/ Best regards Per On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi, > > i need a small, tabletop, guitar pedal style compressor with stereo inputs. > i would like to use it on my electronica set with the electribe er1. any > suggestions? > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 11:33:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74D8A3BEDC; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:33:30 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810140240o27481d85g9dbb5be1d695529a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081014113330.192810@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <009801c92de0$3327cb60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <66f9cc1e0810140240o27481d85g9dbb5be1d695529a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT - compressor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/gbsJucYDgBojY1KuW1eeJaoBdDqV6CHJ3iJLv/t eDPGkbW9Y0wspd1bKFZFbffJDTUmYsqFxH8Q== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: srvCARkMQEV/JZ4tknRpzLpCNzg2NUIU X-FuHaFi: 0.6899999999999999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Erdem > The RNC (Really Nice Compressor) is very good when run in Really Nice > Mode. Yep, I really like it, too. To be fair: You might want to compare it with the RNLA (Really Nice Levelling Amp) soundwise. Have compared both and clearly liked the RNC in really nice mode better for my purposes. You might also want to check one of the JoeMeek compressors in that range. best regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! 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Yours Faithfully, Mrs. Linda Kershaw SECRETARY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 13:04:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD74A3BEDC; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5675A2F2-64A2-4973-8FF6-12E464BBEE69@interworld.net> From: Bruce Gilman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-869126976 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Strange Toys Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:04:22 -0700 References: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:04:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-869126976 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I don't chime in much, but thought I'd let everyone know that there is an interesting article about Joan Jeanrenaud's composing using loops at the following site: www.brazzilmag.com B.G. --Apple-Mail-3-869126976 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello all,

I don't chime in much, but thought I'd let everyone know that there is an interesting article about Joan Jeanrenaud's composing using loops at the following site:  www.brazzilmag.com


B.G.
--Apple-Mail-3-869126976-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 14:20:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 367373BEDE; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1223994007; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Uox4CSQknrqMVKElRXMfB/9g4Bo=; b=YvcTsWPxj2sJUiDXEBCezYM90MVwt+tq3CIJTml7+0VMR5Mr0kCHpYpnFqJJDgOG VT6seeRGUoVFa1+qHSZqkpqbQYQi7oZSwTn4JUqkl6TkcGhkWtaxLaDsKI8QJdD0; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vXvRo6X4AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=66X9zShkBpK0I6kRqFsA:9 a=lz-qoFRD-PWE5hbmRiYA:7 a=1yjQWJr4KDbVmWhymwUehU00co4A:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=JYtX6UZQYHbkTHcyxv4A:9 a=zhvgoyCGa1Yvz7qA5aMA:7 a=WrplChdspeyUSDRB_j-l2s_RYNYA:4 a=LmIIR1MMppUA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000f01c92e08$198f2f40$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> <5675A2F2-64A2-4973-8FF6-12E464BBEE69@interworld.net> Subject: Re: Strange Toys Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:21:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C92DE6.91DD7EB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:20:08 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C92DE6.91DD7EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I searched the site and found it, very nice article thanks.=20 http://www.brazzilmag.com/content/view/10029/ j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bruce Gilman=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: Strange Toys Hello all, I don't chime in much, but thought I'd let everyone know that there is = an interesting article about Joan Jeanrenaud's composing using loops at = the following site: www.brazzilmag.com B.G. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.0/1724 - Release Date: = 10/14/2008 2:02 AM ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C92DE6.91DD7EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I searched the site and found it, very = nice article=20 thanks.
 
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j
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Hello all,

I don't chime in much, but thought I'd let everyone know = that there=20 is an interesting article about Joan Jeanrenaud's composing using = loops at the=20 following site:  www.brazzilmag.com


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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C92DE6.91DD7EB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 14:42:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE8503BEE0; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:42:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=zyBpBiXTh8Ka/xZerGQraVRh22yiAGKh45AlRdfwtiLH2rO7GOf54TitnnkDhsf02LSjzAOiCcHGDRCjXfsuMGxeNubllTh3KGdsDWXDHOfu2jGODja2vaigufgOxBOEiMEELpg9E9JVpvLtRfud2gyJ7kjCsfWHeLuMpix9Hls=; X-YMail-OSG: bMj80j0VM1kzlPqQhT0dcbIzcaX_fzT2P9ETSNDAS1yGASDcyyclTB6DEyTOdTz4xWyj4cS5M4VQSdleHRm2ytO6DsqObFwU_nuWNUfuBOik7oIIQ_HiXAmhyo4hgUVjVqEiFxeETODM9D8aeTPM926Kj9ttCtaJkTKp6dz5I0IzPruIM569yl9k4t2A X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:42:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT - compressor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <009801c92de0$3327cb60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2110427007-1223995377=:40861" Message-ID: <599549.40861.qm@web42108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:42:58 +0000 (UTC) --0-2110427007-1223995377=:40861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An online friend has done extensive compressor reviews - you may find what = you like here: =A0 http://www.ovnilab.com/index.shtml =A0 JK --- On Tue, 10/14/08, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: From: Erdem Helvacioglu Subject: OT - compressor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:35 AM hi, =A0 i need a small, tabletop, guitar pedal style compressor with stereo inputs.= i would like to use it on my electronica set with the electribe er1. any s= uggestions? =A0 thanks and best. =A0 Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1/q= id=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 --0-2110427007-1223995377=:40861 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
An online friend has done extensive compressor reviews - you may find what you like here:
 
 
JK

--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
From: Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>
Subject: OT - compressor
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:35 AM

hi,
 
i need a small, tabletop, guitar pedal style compressor with stereo inputs. i would like to use it on my electronica set with the electribe er1. any suggestions?
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8
--0-2110427007-1223995377=:40861-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 14:46:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D729D3BEE6; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0xZa38ixU655CcZzVruGlEkkUerV/8YOCT11io9ln3M=; b=eW2mrOeF9Ifezag2A+al9uCZMX5R9KVR+bKOvK37JKHCE9DlbLU0ZaO47ZU9WTNZ6f MMWV4q9GyiJF0yDfbMiKIPS/qiCzMkYza/PpmQEY4UrYyKvSnLcUVRvNQQn9yKVvVd/y /p8ySNCYpIhv34hyLu7Jqbqu2i4r4xF36lqh8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MWCdoyOxhZQ+JNhbaPz2X0Ka5UOOesBkTueyOV7sUbXebHYOxrRCw9wLLG7mIp79Il Cpq/T5YqogMWO6t56F2jQaBp+bp2+8zLqIxVVt3vQfHLO0cQd58jFmgmStqRA+mEXlMs sQ5lbkcOJ/TuuvNrp9peqo5Z8IhKY/70R01Fg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 10:46:51 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: OT - compressor In-Reply-To: <599549.40861.qm@web42108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8402_23980137.1223995612075" References: <009801c92de0$3327cb60$0300000a@ERDEMOLD> <599549.40861.qm@web42108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:46:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8402_23980137.1223995612075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you can find one, the Alesis ModFX Smashup is a cool little pedal. > > > --- On *Tue, 10/14/08, Erdem Helvacioglu * wrote: > > From: Erdem Helvacioglu > Subject: OT - compressor > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:35 AM > > > hi, > > i need a small, tabletop, guitar pedal style compressor with stereo inputs. > i would like to use it on my electronica set with the electribe er1. any > suggestions? > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > > -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_8402_23980137.1223995612075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
If you can find one, the Alesis ModFX Smashup is a cool little pedal. 

 


--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
From: Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net>
Subject: OT - compressor
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:35 AM


hi,
 
i need a small, tabletop, guitar pedal style compressor with stereo inputs. i would like to use it on my electronica set with the electribe er1. any suggestions?
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8



--
-==-=-=-
Tony
------=_Part_8402_23980137.1223995612075-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 15:16:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C1723BEE6; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBMeHiGXXGbIY= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Crazy idea to help us grow our community (and also: LiveLoop Festival Endowment post) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:16:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acktz2oznsSDC7RLQ2u6kf721ZHPPAAPPIrw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Dear Rick, again, you're taking the lead with a combination of communist suggestions, which in part do actually make sense ;-). I see both posts (the "crazy idea" one and the "endowment" one) to be somewhat related, that's why I will comment on them together. First, regarding the "giving away an old computer" idea: Speaking about Mobius, you wouldn't even need to ask Jeff to donate a license, because as you may remember, it's free anyway. A computer like the one you mentioned is basically worthless (meaning prices they fetch on the used market are on par or below with shipping costs). And as requirements for a looping computer, I remember that guy who used Mobius on a 128MB 800MHz CeleronI - a kind of computer I recently threw away because nobody wanted it (it even had more RAM and a decent UltraSCSI system). So seriously, by supplying something like that ritually at the festival, you would actually make a little bit of a fool of yourself, as it would be somewhat like ritually donating a gum wrapper to someone... The actual costs really come with the accessories, which you usually don't give away because they don't loose value that rapidly. To do proper looping, you'd need a foot controller, a MIDI interface (to connect that foot controller, if it's not a USB device) and probably even an audio interface (although chances are good that the onboard sound can be used for startes) - which sums up above the price of a cheap hardware looper. Then, there's your other mail, regarding that DL4 you gave to a friend to help him get into looping, and end that post (about repeating that in the future): "I will each year, money permitting." So here's my question: why don't you start lending the DL4 to someone (for a year, e.g.), and then either he gets into looping and gets a looper of his own (like your friend Jack did), or he doesn't - either case, you can give your unused DL4 to someone new the next year. I have been doing similar stuff with un/seldom-used loopers in the past, and it really helped to get some people into looping (whatever it meant for them) - and all that without any cost occuring to me (ignoring interest rates on the looper for now), and saving them from the risk of buying something they didn't even know they'd enjoy for a prolonged amount of time. Summarizing: Giving away your old computers is a good idea, if only for ecological reasons, but I don't see a computer-based looping setup as a good starting point (and also as a simple one, for the reasons stated above). Your endowment concept is great (and has been done by me in the past as well, although not "ritually"), but I believe it can be done in a low-cost fashion by simply giving away an unused looper on a loan basis. Yours, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 15:19:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05C843BEF0; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBMeHiGXXGbIY= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Y2K8Loopfest coverage Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:19:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AckuED0onjIpQSouS3mo4AEX++7HUg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Will there be any web-streaming of the festival like in 05 and 06? Krispen, I'm looking in your general direction ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 19:36:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A65E3BEEC; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.30.28] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: Crazy idea to help us grow our community Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:36:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2008 19:36:07.0166 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A5401E0:01C92E34] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Rick - I will donate my old laptop and bring it to Y2K8. It is a Compaq Presario 2525US 2.4ghz (INTEL Pentium 4) 500MG of RAM Win XP Home Include the Audigy 2 ZS PCMCIA soundcard for Laptop (24 bit) It is loaded with a ton of Software that will work fine, but what I purchased will not be re-installable if the computer is re-built. Software includes: Mobius (older version that can be updated easily) Chainer (VST Host) EnergyXT (VST Host) Waves (mastering suite) PSP84 (VST) PSP42 (VST) SpaceEffect (VST) Finale 2005 Antares Filter Antares Kantos FlexFX (VST) VocFX (VST) Microsoft Office WaveLab Roughly 400 free VST effects of every sort and flavor Kris ----- Original Message ----- >I just gave away a computer I inherited from my father to > a local Goth/Industrial musician on the proviso that he > use it for making music and it suddenly occured to me: > > > A lot of us have old computers laying around that would be fine for > doing some live or even canned looping. > > Personally, I have an old 1.3 ghz P4 sitting in my house that is > all taken apart (with the best intentions of rebuilding it and upgrading > until I ended up buying a newer one). > > I was thinking it would be a very cool thing is anyone has this stuff > lying > around and have Matthias Grob or Andrew Ostler or Jeff Larson or whoever > has invented some looping softare to donate a looping software package > to said old used computers and give them away to young aspiring > live loopers who might not have the money to purchase such a thing. > > In the year 1998, two good friends of mine gifted me a Mac computer and > basically baby sat me into understanding how to use it to make music > just because they had the faith in me that I would do something really > creative > with it. Now, ten years later I make probably 1/3 to 1/2 of my income > because > I've really learned how to do it on both platforms. > > I never could have afforded to do it at the time and now I'm teaching > young musicians > how to make music with a computer. A small miracle. > > Does anyone have such a computer laying around? > I imagine it would need to be at least a P4 or equivalent processor of a > 1ghz or more > or the equivalent Mac computer. > > It's just a thought, but I thought it might be a cool thing to do ritually > at the Y2K festival each year. > > Towards that end, read my next email to the list. > > Cheers, yours in creativity and fostering community, Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 22:41:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C1C23BEEC; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vNK1nyKXDR8A:10 a=rKq5emlHAEyIcZSfHuQA:9 a=25Z_IqSoxKG1K_9HzSIA:7 a=JVpOOGLCiLjbBwgPy95sE6xB7iUA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 In-Reply-To: References: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Crazy idea to help us grow our community Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:41:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:41:53 +0000 (UTC) Hey, did you ever get that magazine? On Oct 14, 2008, at 3:36 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Rick - I will donate my old laptop and bring it to Y2K8. > > It is a Compaq Presario 2525US > 2.4ghz (INTEL Pentium 4) > 500MG of RAM > Win XP Home > Include the Audigy 2 ZS PCMCIA soundcard for Laptop (24 bit) > > It is loaded with a ton of Software that will work fine, but what I > purchased will not be re-installable if the computer is re-built. > Software includes: > > Mobius (older version that can be updated easily) > Chainer (VST Host) > EnergyXT (VST Host) > Waves (mastering suite) > PSP84 (VST) > PSP42 (VST) > SpaceEffect (VST) > Finale 2005 > Antares Filter > Antares Kantos > FlexFX (VST) > VocFX (VST) > Microsoft Office > WaveLab > Roughly 400 free VST effects of every sort and flavor > > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> I just gave away a computer I inherited from my father to >> a local Goth/Industrial musician on the proviso that he >> use it for making music and it suddenly occured to me: >> >> >> A lot of us have old computers laying around that would be fine for >> doing some live or even canned looping. >> >> Personally, I have an old 1.3 ghz P4 sitting in my house that is >> all taken apart (with the best intentions of rebuilding it and >> upgrading >> until I ended up buying a newer one). >> >> I was thinking it would be a very cool thing is anyone has this >> stuff lying >> around and have Matthias Grob or Andrew Ostler or Jeff Larson or >> whoever >> has invented some looping softare to donate a looping software >> package >> to said old used computers and give them away to young aspiring >> live loopers who might not have the money to purchase such a thing. >> >> In the year 1998, two good friends of mine gifted me a Mac >> computer and >> basically baby sat me into understanding how to use it to make music >> just because they had the faith in me that I would do something >> really creative >> with it. Now, ten years later I make probably 1/3 to 1/2 of >> my income because >> I've really learned how to do it on both platforms. >> >> I never could have afforded to do it at the time and now I'm >> teaching young musicians >> how to make music with a computer. A small miracle. >> >> Does anyone have such a computer laying around? >> I imagine it would need to be at least a P4 or equivalent >> processor of a 1ghz or more >> or the equivalent Mac computer. >> >> It's just a thought, but I thought it might be a cool thing to do >> ritually at the Y2K festival each year. >> >> Towards that end, read my next email to the list. >> >> Cheers, yours in creativity and fostering community, Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 23:29:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54E423BEF3; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <924724F1618A453FB9E121C191D492D2@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <48F42180.1070203@cruzio.com> Subject: Offer to London-UK Members of LD... Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:29:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:29:06 +0000 (UTC) ...or whomever's interested or in need. I've gotta pair of Viewsonic GS771 monitors that I want to unload, and couldn't sell 'em on eBay (though precision non-HD video editing still is done better on a CRT according to my vid-editing friends). If anyone'd like to come and get 'em for nothing but the time and fuel they're welcome. I'm in Kensington London. Reply off-list please. Anyone? SP Goodman * http://www.myspace.com/spgoodman http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman http://www.youtube.com/spgoodman http://www.youtube.com/enturbulata From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 23:35:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19CC73BEF0; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 383 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:35:44 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=KYk9ODa+aKjmX1/dHr/7UliFtCRcnJHLZsWgSZNfxR8=; b=Y+WQZ6zqNl34f/FfwZjKylTavsN88qoF60UR1SDr2hwl+w7uytvXsFXAeDI0ZPbZj8 zrdzIdFPJk0ayVI0bSUWPvu0DGIiwhF3cTpueoa6/0eiLsMt+6BQAo+Oa0q7PTWz/iHb u/SNVYhvvmlH+t7K8W0YftogOd8RNgT8UI0Vo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=TLEcGxUctqLM9q3lQurxwm7jq4Pp37msddlFsQSBkCuhVQxj0NPd1JQIGBaZ/OBho4 p+V+kdwbUhyIOR9e1kbnouerIKwhGT28SIR4LDd4ev0Fk7EBNHgigKXI45xZfh4X2do6 RrEUe93EFDEhPbNJVYtua/TGKZgm9Oi5GXoIM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:29:19 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Portable recording device MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:35:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers A request for advice from all the gear junkies on this list. I am packing up for a while; the drums, P.A system, loopers, midi controlllers etc.... going into storage to enable a bit of foot loose and fancy free traveling. I will be taking with my macbook, (cant function without that), however i dont want to lug any extra gear such as microphones, interfaces etc.....The performer is going on hold for a while and i am restricting myself to whatever sound creations i can do in the software environment. One backpack must contain everything for survival. I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. Price is always a matter of concern, but since i am funneling my entire music creation down to one recording device, it does deserve some hard saving so i am willing to spend. Any suggestions would be of great help. Byron From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 23:41:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D7E93BF00; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=Brz5nm9ZqgdzE9kVd38F+fsA1MQi/H/ic+qmd3MylQQVwf0Djj7bnESGvu59A2I1; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <23765431.1224027692927.JavaMail.root@elwamui-milano.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:41:32 -0400 (EDT) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Portable recording device Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e519606888b5227b03e935b7a2280c41ee2f50806350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.40 Resent-Message-ID: <1hC1tB.A.OO.t4S9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Korg MR-1, perhaps? Can be had for about $400 US new last I looked. -----Original Message----- >From: Byron Howell >Sent: Oct 14, 2008 7:29 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Portable recording device > >Hi Loopers > >A request for advice from all the gear junkies on this list. I am >packing up for a while; the drums, P.A system, loopers, midi >controlllers etc.... going into storage to enable a bit of foot loose >and fancy free traveling. > >I will be taking with my macbook, (cant function without that), >however i dont want to lug any extra gear such as microphones, >interfaces etc.....The performer is going on hold for a while and i am >restricting myself to whatever sound creations i can do in the >software environment. One backpack must contain everything for >survival. > >I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of >environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various >places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to >record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. > >Price is always a matter of concern, but since i am funneling my >entire music creation down to one recording device, it does deserve >some hard saving so i am willing to spend. > >Any suggestions would be of great help. > >Byron > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 14 23:56:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF2B33BF01; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBMeHgGXbDBQ== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Portable recording device Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:56:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AckuVZQvVZiAp+cxSAe3PIswDXZe8AAAaSsg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:56:22 +0000 (UTC) Hey Byron, warning: no first-hand experience ahead! I did some research myself here, and although I didn't look for the exact same thing as you did, some of my findings may help you. In the low-price region, Zoom can't be beat, or so it seems. A (serious!) disadvantage of their cheaper H2 model is that it obviously only offers a three-way switch for setting input sensitivity, and none for setting micpre gain. The H4 also allows to connect external mics which require phantom. I remember that a lot of people (including Krispen) are using the M-Audio MicroTrack2496 (MkII sometimes), and this one seems to be a good bang for the buck. If your quality requirements are higher, there's basically two ways: 1. higher-priced stuff by e.g. Fostex, Marantz etc. - they mostly differ in the pres. 2. combine any recorder with a SPDIF input (or a PDA with a free CF slot) with the coresound Mic2496 http://www.core-sound.com/Mic2496/1.php. I read some rave reviews about that one by people I've come to trust in their reviews, so if you're really after quality AND small package, this may be the way to go (e.g. in combination with the Microtrack) I'd like to advise agains the Korg MR-1, simply because using the DSD data format will not make you happy any place "downstream". It seems to be a good format if you record directly to 2bus and burn that to a SADC in comparison to normal CD, but it doesn't seem to perform better than serious 24/96 solutions, and given the fact that you got all that hazzle with the non-PCM data format, you would be happier with something else. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 00:00:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 477B83BEFF; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=P27BtNQVL0lQsY4QX3ZOg44/mnBKTVOP4tLcwSpxz6MDD6+yVF9xsdiYdjiuO+ii4dSc1WWZ8qUhv2kI4ujx8HeQ2aRQDaD83OevhTNnaZel0nlO0szqM0wpALQPRuotXoAwiCafHOvSHXk3AW8e0rvPy6+O4qPSJ8dlO6GTWNA=; X-YMail-OSG: YGxK008VM1lBAS4AL3a2G1nDn8jZTRgKcOmfywumxlamXkhn_quM8hmR2KlaaX4rwUTS2IdiI9GWrDcpXWZe2R_2mrWceMZg6vUqYOJGbvpk0svvQlnm1gt4POZ6wsawD5qoBW2d16xvn2x9AP3P125grIcMDtLs0T7DUhsZLzUxT0ts5AozDcmMl4U- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:00:33 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Portable recording device To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <200094.54366.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:00:39 +0000 (UTC) I highly recommend the Sony PCM D50. Here it is for 399 (an awesome price): http://www.audiolines.com/product.php?productid=19972 It will run at 96k/24bit. Built in mics are really pretty good. Only downside is that it is sensitive to wind noise. I have one, and not only does it sound great, but it's pretty tough. It got dropped from ceiling level on to cement and survived with nothing more than a scrape and a bent mic protector. ----- Original Message ---- From: Byron Howell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 4:29:19 PM Subject: Portable recording device Hi Loopers A request for advice from all the gear junkies on this list. I am packing up for a while; the drums, P.A system, loopers, midi controlllers etc.... going into storage to enable a bit of foot loose and fancy free traveling. I will be taking with my macbook, (cant function without that), however i dont want to lug any extra gear such as microphones, interfaces etc.....The performer is going on hold for a while and i am restricting myself to whatever sound creations i can do in the software environment. One backpack must contain everything for survival. I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. Price is always a matter of concern, but since i am funneling my entire music creation down to one recording device, it does deserve some hard saving so i am willing to spend. Any suggestions would be of great help. Byron From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 00:12:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AD4F3BF12; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224029576; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=9boq/nNjo0zGWaxqOGsUrgI8uXU=; b=VNyfMGPfM7psuZyiBsTtDDMaDGNXSAwj9Elj21eNdWIfC20MQo0/s7Bem0LLQ+2c oRSoGH1tfVxQTeQBfBys6GL35UBh/CrX3sNNY/RvI/D8JfQZa8UROE6hlBxL4T19; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mXmh1LwXAAAA:8 a=wUJ9XRdNAAAA:8 a=tCoxvbWIAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=DPgOdzIHAAAA:8 a=KCVmX8HyAAAA:8 a=s9ThSRKNAAAA:8 a=xAEii7aeAAAA:8 a=2vOfPnwCU4XwPEEJfPoA:9 a=VgGSzTlMMDLx5taNWjgA:7 a=wOik_OwRUVn60WumCoEaOz9rsHIA:4 a=C-lB3HWSK-8A:10 a=m7EG_5Jr3LkA:10 a=kZDQ2csh-oYA:10 a=Q-HI_so7LLUA:10 a=K8sKunsjz6wA:10 a=pufoRJSiRt4A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=0GXzayXv4hcA:10 a=CWfAmLVWKswA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=RSsQDzOyAklATM8lv7AA:9 a=koGTms4JZeDRuO3-Y4wA:7 a=gF5coVDOO5WSy0is-29nMOTFlmEA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ejyuhas@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) From: "ejyuhas" Message-ID: <81.9C.08344.78535F84@smtp06.embarq.synacor.com> To: Subject: RE: Sony Vaio anyone? Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:12:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01F8_01C92E39.404E32D0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-reply-to: <9e0440a60810130812w28707047gaeb15dbfded3de3b@mail.gmail.com> Thread-index: AcktlqfQCkoYsKH4TLCpKzizxSC1lwAw0MRA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <5hDvZC.A.INB.JWT9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:12:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01F8_01C92E39.404E32D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had my VAIO, the PCG-K33 model for close to four years now, and no problems at all. Knock on silicon! But I'm using it as my workhorse, no looping is done with it, as I'm still a floorpedal "analog" looper. :-) I bring it outside on wireless, under the picnic table umbrella and surf the net, email, etc. and I've never had a problem viewing the screen. I do have a few music programs on it, such as iTunes and other apps that convert music formats, etc. still, no problems. I've also done LOTS of CD burning on it, and I occasionally run Adobe Audition and also Soundplant, when I run it through my guitar rig. FWIW. Ed in NJ _____ From: Jim Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:12 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sony Vaio anyone? I would echo Harry's review. We've had a Viao in the past (was before XP) and had dealings with their support which is not great. We had keyboard damage and were in warranty and they did support it in the end but one sensed they to be pretty much by the book and standoffish. Frankly in the computer industry the only one decent for my dealings has been DELL which I've known more from my work world generally the Latitude series. IBM makes great stable hardware but has a history of not so good tech support again my experience in corporate worlds. I love Apple products and have a G3 powerbook and G4 tower. My kids both have Macbooks (white ones). Though I do love OSX and Apple's sense of fun in their products I'm disappointed in their laptop hardware being so delicate and to a sense cheap in design. We've had to replace now the power adapters for the Macbooks 4 x. I have found generics on ebay that one has outlasted the Apple and the other died though the vendor is honoring it. On the same Macbook though I argued power management issues with my son in the end I just replaced his battery. His Macbook is 1.5 years now. Of all my laptop experience the DELL Latitudes seem to be the most dependable including their service. I have had the luxury of Gold Suppor from them due to corporate paying for it. Jim Goodin www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.jimgoodinmusic.com On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM, wrote: Michael - I've had VAIOs before. I've generally liked them but my last experience was not a good one. The hard drive on my laptop crashed within a day or two of the warranty expiring. The hard drive was good but the motherboard was zapped. When I called SONY to take care of it they basically told me to take a hike. I argued with the guy and pointed out to him that I had been a long time purchaser of SONY products and he continued to tell me I was out of luck but that he would look into it. Shortly after I purchased a laptop from a different manufacturer SONY called me back and announced that they would take care of it and would send me a mailer to send the computer back to them for repair. By then it was too late and I had already removed the hard drive from the VAIO and restored my data using an enclosure. My experience with SONY is that they are generally good products (however, I will never buy another one) but are overpriced in that you can get the same or superior quality from other manufacturers for less money. Regards, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 In a message dated 10/13/2008 7:02:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mp@mpeters.de writes: I think I'll buy a Sony Vaio notebook simply because their LCDs seem to be much brighter than anyone else's, and that would allow me to work outdoors. Now there are many subspecies of Vaio and I'm not sure which one would be best suited for music purposes. Suggestions anyone? -Michael _____ New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. 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I’ve had my VAIO, the PCG-K33 = model for close to four years now, and no problems at all. Knock on = silicon!

 

But I’m using it as my = workhorse, no looping is done with it, as I’m still a floorpedal = “analog” looper. J I bring it outside on wireless, under the picnic table = umbrella and surf the net, email, etc. and I’ve never had a problem viewing = the screen.

 

I do have a few music programs on = it, such as iTunes and other apps that convert music formats, etc. still, no = problems. I’ve also done LOTS of CD burning on it, and I occasionally run Adobe = Audition and also Soundplant, when I run it through my guitar = rig.

 

FWIW…=

 

Ed in = NJ

 

From: Jim = Goodin [mailto:jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 13, = 2008 11:12 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Sony Vaio = anyone?

 

I would echo Harry's review.  We've had a Viao in the past = (was before XP) and had dealings with their support which is not great.  = We had keyboard damage and were in warranty and they did support it in the end = but one sensed they to be pretty much by the book and standoffish.  Frankly = in the computer industry the only one decent for my dealings has been DELL = which I've known more from my work world generally the Latitude series.  IBM = makes great stable hardware but has a history of not so good tech support = again my experience in corporate worlds.  I love Apple products and have a = G3 powerbook and G4 tower.  My kids both have Macbooks (white = ones).  Though I do love OSX and Apple's sense of fun in their products I'm disappointed in their laptop hardware being so delicate and to a sense = cheap in design.  We've had to replace now the power adapters for the = Macbooks 4 x.  I have found generics on ebay that one has outlasted the Apple = and the other died though the vendor is honoring it.  On the same Macbook = though I argued power management issues with my son in the end I just replaced = his battery.  His Macbook is 1.5 years now.  Of all my laptop = experience the DELL Latitudes seem to be the most dependable including their service.  I have had the luxury of Gold Suppor from them due to = corporate paying for it.

 

Jim Goodin



 

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 10:30 AM, <HarryEsq@aol.com> wrote:

Michael - I've had VAIOs = before.  I've generally liked them but my last experience was not a good = one.  The hard drive on my laptop crashed within a day or two of the warranty expiring.  The hard drive was good but the motherboard was = zapped.  When I called SONY to take care of it they basically told me to take a hike.  I argued with the guy and pointed out to him that I had been = a long time purchaser of SONY products and he continued to tell me I was out of = luck but that he would look into it.  Shortly after I purchased a = laptop from a different manufacturer SONY called me back and announced that = they would take care of it and would send me a mailer to send the computer back to = them for repair.  By then it was too late and I had already removed the = hard drive from the VAIO and restored my data using an = enclosure.  

 

=

My experience with SONY is that = they are generally good products (however, I will never buy another one) but are overpriced in that you can get the same or superior quality from other manufacturers for less money. 

 

=

Regards,

 

=

Harry

 

=

Harry Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach = Street - 8th Floor
New York, = N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908

 

=

In a message dated 10/13/2008 = 7:02:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mp@mpeters.de writes:

I think I'll buy a Sony Vaio notebook simply because their LCDs seem to be
much brighter than anyone else's, and that would allow me to work = outdoors.

Now there are many subspecies of Vaio and I'm not sure which one would = be
best suited for music purposes. Suggestions anyone?

-Michael



New MapQuest Local shows what's = happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out!




--
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Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /a>
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

------=_NextPart_000_01F8_01C92E39.404E32D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 00:26:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1F893BF10; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=M0CoACWvAY06dH+zhgPZIkh0rv+2kN9kDBiAtZzuzjw=; b=sPGDH+UcY0AWHuTmoafnp5H2+2vEhFFhuuLIJdJickjS80wvVn4lsU2untkK9kXrHX bKEnaiBHewpu9ZxopVrYDiqE4UrmTBaZYkaW6xx/kpHcWAfOMBLY0VOYgkWyh2Y+kO4X a1RdTuGeV+yfAK9JekI8PoI8SoLHk21oZKEvo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=fX2RFl8SAq7Xkawu9gId3VGU4XV7Ac4IcAE+nr+NU6bl4+VyZIadt1q2FnUKtIbPpa 3jd8kFr6Gz1XIZA+UgDaMAeBipJveLix7wcMSrYmuWhc9311vFK3plgzYCmDmnb7rbQu hrgJ4ibF4M7RazyzL5G9BnJCYpPl6f8btWnao= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:26:32 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 1st Y2K Live LoopFestival Endowment In-Reply-To: <48F422D4.8020105@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48F422D4.8020105@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2-ZAc.A.stB.5iT9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Congrats to Jack Schultz for being well endowed! On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm pleased to announce that > the Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival > has chosen talented newbie looper, Jack Schultz > (performing at 12:30 on Saturday at the main festival) > as our 1st Y2K LOOPFESTIVAL endowment winner. > > a few months ago, I presented Jack with a > Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller/Loop pedal and enjoined > him to learn how to use it and then perform as a newbie at the festival. > > Jack has progressed at a really impressive pace and even fell so > deeply in love with it that he went out and purchases an EchoPLex > with Loop IV software by Aurisis (thanks, Matthias Grob, Kim Flint and > everyone > else responible for that). > > Anyway, I want to try and do something similar each year at the festival to > encourage talented young (and old) musicians to join our community and > start using looping gear creatively. I will each year, money > permitting. > > Anyway, congratulations Jack. We are all very proud to have you in > our > community. See you at the Loop Festival. > > yours, Rick Walker > Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival > www.y2kloopfest.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 00:49:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F3613BF18; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Portable recording device Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:49:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Byron, I can at least say from experience that the Zoom H2 can really make=20 quite decent recordings. However, as I am also finding out, it is NOT particularly rugged. A couple of things have broken on mine already . . . it's cheap because=20= it's largely plastic. But, with only minor trimming, EQ and a touch of reverb, my Thursday=20 evening set at BEMF3 in Boise this past Spring was recorded on entirely=20= on my H2 . . . and that's what's posted on the BEMF page with the MP3=20 links: Look for me about half way down the page and find MP3 links for=20 Thursday parts 1, 2, and 3. The Thursday recordings do not in any way compare to the great=20 soundboard recordings made on my Saturday set by Aaron Davis - but they=20= are not that bad (if you wish to compare). My dynamics are all over the map too. For me it is just easier to set the thing up on a mic stand and record=20= in "quad" (yes it has 4 mic capsules in it). Although I have to worry about footpedal clicks and the creaking and=20 groaning of my chair (or stool) I don't have to worry about cables or=20 line level compatibility. It's simple and it works without a lot of fussing over. Best regards, Ted Killian "I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that=20 dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might=20 actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times On Oct 14, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Byron Howell wrote: > Hi Loopers > > A request for advice from all the gear junkies on this list. I am > packing up for a while; the drums, P.A system, loopers, midi > controlllers etc.... going into storage to enable a bit of foot loose > and fancy free traveling. > > I will be taking with my macbook, (cant function without that), > however i dont want to lug any extra gear such as microphones, > interfaces etc.....The performer is going on hold for a while and i am > restricting myself to whatever sound creations i can do in the > software environment. One backpack must contain everything for > survival. > > I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of > environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various > places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to > record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. > > Price is always a matter of concern, but since i am funneling my > entire music creation down to one recording device, it does deserve > some hard saving so i am willing to spend. > > Any suggestions would be of great help. > > Byron > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 00:57:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22B493BF15; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:57:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-911895654 Message-Id: <9E9B3E6E-3B02-4421-BFD7-74D9947DE4BC@drumtalk.com> From: George Grant Subject: Re: Portable recording device Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:57:11 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:57:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-911895654 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Byron, I am absolutely pleased with Zoom H4 which allows multi tracking. A bit goofy to fiddle with the flimsy buttons and switches, but the sound is great. I used it all summer, chanting away Drum Talk and chanting, while hiking most of the summer. Many pro associates are also happy with this device. good luck. I'm a drummer too. Enjoy that light feeling of lugging no gear. George On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:49 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Byron, > > I can at least say from experience that the Zoom H2 can really make =20= > quite decent recordings. > > However, as I am also finding out, it is NOT particularly rugged. > > A couple of things have broken on mine already . . . it's cheap =20 > because it's largely plastic. > > But, with only minor trimming, EQ and a touch of reverb, my =20 > Thursday evening set at BEMF3 in Boise this past Spring was =20 > recorded on entirely on my H2 . . . and that's what's posted on the =20= > BEMF page with the MP3 links: > > Look for me about half way down the page and find MP3 links for =20 > Thursday parts 1, 2, and 3. > > The Thursday recordings do not in any way compare to the great =20 > soundboard recordings made on my Saturday set by Aaron Davis - but =20 > they are not that bad (if you wish to compare). > > My dynamics are all over the map too. > > For me it is just easier to set the thing up on a mic stand and =20 > record in "quad" (yes it has 4 mic capsules in it). > > Although I have to worry about footpedal clicks and the creaking =20 > and groaning of my chair (or stool) I don't have to worry about =20 > cables or line level compatibility. > > It's simple and it works without a lot of fussing over. > > Best regards, > > Ted Killian > > "I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that =20= > dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it =20 > might actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times > > On Oct 14, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Byron Howell wrote: > >> Hi Loopers >> >> A request for advice from all the gear junkies on this list. I am >> packing up for a while; the drums, P.A system, loopers, midi >> controlllers etc.... going into storage to enable a bit of foot loose >> and fancy free traveling. >> >> I will be taking with my macbook, (cant function without that), >> however i dont want to lug any extra gear such as microphones, >> interfaces etc.....The performer is going on hold for a while and =20 >> i am >> restricting myself to whatever sound creations i can do in the >> software environment. One backpack must contain everything for >> survival. >> >> I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of >> environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various >> places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to >> record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. >> >> Price is always a matter of concern, but since i am funneling my >> entire music creation down to one recording device, it does deserve >> some hard saving so i am willing to spend. >> >> Any suggestions would be of great help. >> >> Byron >> > > --Apple-Mail-7-911895654 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Byron,

I am absolutely pleased with Zoom = H4
which allows multi tracking. =A0A bit goofy
to = fiddle with the flimsy buttons and switches,
but the sound is = great. =A0I used it all summer,
chanting away Drum Talk and = chanting, while
hiking most of the summer. =A0Many pro = associates
are also happy with this device. = =A0

good luck. =A0I'm a drummer too. =A0Enjoy = that
light feeling of lugging no = gear.=A0

George=A0

=
On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:49 PM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

Byron,

I can at least say from = experience that the Zoom H2 can really make quite decent = recordings.

However, as I am also finding out, it is NOT = particularly rugged.
A couple of things have broken = on mine already . . . it's cheap because it's largely plastic.

But, = with only minor trimming, EQ and a touch of reverb, my Thursday evening = set at BEMF3 in Boise this past Spring was recorded on entirely on my H2 = . . . and that's what's posted on the BEMF page with the MP3 links: = <http://www.boisemusicians.c= om/BEMF-3/>

Look for me about half way down the page and find = MP3 links for Thursday parts 1, 2, and 3.

The Thursday = recordings do not in any way compare to the great soundboard recordings = made on my Saturday set by Aaron Davis - but they are not that bad (if = you wish to compare).
My dynamics are all over the map = too.

For me it is just easier to set the thing up on a = mic stand and record in "quad" (yes it has 4 mic capsules in = it).

Although I have to worry about footpedal clicks and = the creaking and groaning of my chair (or stool) I don't have to worry = about cables or line level compatibility.

It's simple = and it works without a lot of fussing over.

Best = regards,

Ted Killian

"I=92ve gotten the scary = feeling, for the first time in my life, that dimwittedness is not just = on the march in the U.S., but that it might actually prevail." -- Bob = Herbert, New York Times

On Oct 14, 2008, at 4:29 PM, = Byron Howell wrote:
Hi = Loopers

A request for advice from all the gear junkies on = this list. I am
packing up for a while; the = drums, P.A system, loopers, midi
controlllers = etc.... going into storage to enable a bit of foot loose
and fancy free traveling.

I will = be taking with my macbook, (cant function without that),
however i dont want to lug any extra gear such as = microphones,
interfaces etc.....The performer = is going on hold for a while and i am
software environment. One = backpack must contain everything for

I am looking for a portable recorder to record = samples of
environments, conversations, = backgroud noises etc..of the various
places i = visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to
record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data = to my mac.

Price is always a matter of concern, but since i am = funneling my
entire music creation down to = one recording device, it does deserve
some = hard saving so i am willing to spend.

Any = suggestions would be of great help.

Byron



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Barrister Glenn Larot From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 02:30:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 919F23BF02; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:31:46 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Portable recording device In-reply-to: <2746929.1224027494348.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48F55612.9060905@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <2746929.1224027494348.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Byron Howell wrote: > ... > I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of > environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various > places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to > record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. > The most inexpensive unit I know of is the Zoom H2. It can record stereo or four channels with its internal mics. It's decent and I like that it uses ordinary batteries. I have G.A.S. for it. Get it on-line cheaper than in music stores. I hunt around Compu-plus for stiff like this all the time. I get their news letter a few times per week. I have an original M-Audio Microtrack 24/96 with non-replacable Lithium-Ion rechargeable battery. I like it so well that when I saw the Microtrack MkII for 199.99 at Compu-plus, I grabbed it. It improves upon the 24/96 but also has different problems like ground hum when recording under external power. I took both to Differen Skies and used one for a board recording and one for an ambient recording. (I plan to line them up in Sonar some day.) They're great in the field although the 24/96's battery life is too short. The MkII has much better battery life. Both allow line and mic recording from 1/4" TRS inputs. It also has SPDIF input, 1/8" mic input, and RCA outputs. I have populated both with 8G CFCs last year for $67 each. Two days ago, I ordered a 16G CFC for $31. (From Newegg?) Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 03:14:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12D003BF05; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:11:29 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance 10,17.08 with Dave Maxwell's Ether Bandits To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:14:43 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing video improvisations this Friday starting around 8:30 with Dave Maxwell - piano Todd Brunel - bass clarinet Robert Rivera - cello Lawrence Cook - drums John Mulrooney poetry at Outpost 186, 186 1/2 Hampshire Street, Cambridge MA, near Inman Square. This is part of the Vortex series, and every event I've performed at in this series has been mind expanding in the extreme. Come expand yours-:) Suggested donation $10 or best offer, http://zeitgeist-outpost.org/ -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 03:27:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E9683BF04; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:references :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=mKCu6UufPxbYPX3FqSz2JM3inri6BLdJMiBLZUl/n5s=; b=hHYKF9Aemn3gFbHfBGEWOPrLcFQ2niv+yT1waC/EdkCMikVZmagFdjxa2j8o+co5gw B8JZWZJ7nrCacryhGyY9VbTiQEa8MHtA1pAHRT5nx6v9GaWRuL0o1MSj5zZ5yHwcuwvF d6z8KzF0KTPX+Nl74jyCASOynjXJCBRgBPsf4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=P4/VKBslV3CZq5RBjxSxPUx+RI1jKrlWgas7leuzWmvuy9j0Pois9V6pb6dcGCOqph eW/1XKcM0wIYQb7TeiMfUzm7RSH6eh10F9thhE1g/nq3fv2oUa9ZK8iPQN1m/Klv2oiL mjsB5jY5EuXmo8qKbMCGxQzIWVsTHBcJLM1/w= Message-ID: From: "projektGmail" To: References: Subject: Re: Portable recording device Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:28:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi I'm using the M-audio Microtrack for some time now and I must say I like it. Simple interface, good sound. USB-connection. 1/4 Inch TRS inputs. For travelling I use a small metal box. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Byron Howell" Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:29 AM To: Subject: Portable recording device > Hi Loopers > > A request for advice from all the gear junkies on this list. I am > packing up for a while; the drums, P.A system, loopers, midi > controlllers etc.... going into storage to enable a bit of foot loose > and fancy free traveling. > > I will be taking with my macbook, (cant function without that), > however i dont want to lug any extra gear such as microphones, > interfaces etc.....The performer is going on hold for a while and i am > restricting myself to whatever sound creations i can do in the > software environment. One backpack must contain everything for > survival. > > I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of > environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various > places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to > record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. > > Price is always a matter of concern, but since i am funneling my > entire music creation down to one recording device, it does deserve > some hard saving so i am willing to spend. > > Any suggestions would be of great help. > > Byron > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 03:33:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0FA33BF02; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:27:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Portable recording device Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:33:34 +0000 (UTC) I'm very happy with my Edirol R-09, and the newer models do 96K, too. >I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of >environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various >places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to >record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 03:33:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B102B3BF15; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:27:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: AW: Portable recording device Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 03:33:35 +0000 (UTC) At 1:56 AM +0200 10/15/08, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >I remember that a lot of people (including Krispen) are using the M-Audio >MicroTrack2496 (MkII sometimes), and this one seems to be a good bang for >the buck. I had one. Hated it. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 04:34:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3355D3BF0A; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3621 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:34:56 UTC Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:15:17 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance 10.19.08 with No Such Animal To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing video improv at the following event, with "No Such Animal", an improv band that crosses the lines among jazz, rock, and just plane undefinable. Come and join us and dare to be undefined. At 6:39 PM -0700 10/13/08, mungenast@mungenast.com wrote: >Nave October 19 with Doctor T > >SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY >19 October, 2008, 8 p.m., >No Such Animal reunion >at The Nave Gallery >155 Powderhouse Blvd, Somerville, Massachusetts 02143 >www.artsomerville.org >$5, All Ages. >Space jazz improv. > >"Four years ago, avant guardian Tim Mungenast arranged the >first-ever collaboration between members of Cul de Sac and Birdsongs >of the Mesozoic to create the Innova Recordings release 'No Such >Animal.' See the long-overdue reunion of Ken Field (saxophone, >flute, percussion), Jon Proudman (drums), Michael Bloom (bass and >sundries), and Tim (guitar, sitar, bells, pedals) as they open a >sonic portal into another world. Featuring a special psychedelic >video light show by Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a. Dr. T)." -- My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ My videos can be viewed at http://www.youtube.com/Tobenfeld Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 05:30:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 377103BF0F; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:30:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: Portable recording device Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 00:30:17 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <48F55612.9060905@soundscapes.us> Thread-Index: AckubgdE5pbxeMliSQao9pfWpGEQhQAGOi+g Message-Id: <20081015053022.CCB3A3BF06@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:30:23 +0000 (UTC) After much online research and asking questions of owners, I recently got a Zoom H4. I haven't used it yet (still in the box), but the recordings I listened to and user comments I got made it my choice. dave Byron Howell wrote: > ... > I am looking for a portable recorder to record samples of > environments, conversations, backgroud noises etc..of the various > places i visit. I would have to be as small as possible, able to > record quality audio and be able to tranfer the data to my mac. > The most inexpensive unit I know of is the Zoom H2. It can record stereo or four channels with its internal mics. It's decent and I like that it uses ordinary batteries. I have G.A.S. for it. Get it on-line cheaper than in music stores. I hunt around Compu-plus for stiff like this all the time. I get their news letter a few times per week. I have an original M-Audio Microtrack 24/96 with non-replacable Lithium-Ion rechargeable battery. I like it so well that when I saw the Microtrack MkII for 199.99 at Compu-plus, I grabbed it. It improves upon the 24/96 but also has different problems like ground hum when recording under external power. I took both to Differen Skies and used one for a board recording and one for an ambient recording. (I plan to line them up in Sonar some day.) They're great in the field although the 24/96's battery life is too short. The MkII has much better battery life. Both allow line and mic recording from 1/4" TRS inputs. It also has SPDIF input, 1/8" mic input, and RCA outputs. I have populated both with 8G CFCs last year for $67 each. Two days ago, I ordered a 16G CFC for $31. (From Newegg?) 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 08:20:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07BC83BF14; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:20:00 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/IdAM9T/fIhHxlZItLIJ8PT4XCATfx2gbBFQdW1z sXYqzLmlJFvH+Ih7WJkec1ipH0jphWnC5k/w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 1M6QCUx9fW47bJNBjGRoDFRudmllcsUW X-FuHaFi: 0.62 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, but there is none. I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic and now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry a big 15,4" MacBookPro around. So... oh well... Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 08:27:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E8FB3BF15; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:27:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20081015082736235.396A01C000B3@mwinf2002.orange.fr Message-Id: <5E740C37-8AF1-4BD1-B6A1-5815E2062D5E@gmail.com> From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:27:34 +0200 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:27:37 +0000 (UTC) I thought it had FireWire 800 rather than 400 On Oct 15, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: > For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. =20 > Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! > > Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would =20 > be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had =20 > firewire, but there is none. > I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic =20= > and now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry =20= > a big 15,4" MacBookPro around. So... > > oh well... > Buzap > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit =20= > allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 08:33:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B3813BF1A; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=cC18roJQvexjSCCXV7wBJj6etaYifD3ubzRXZkDVvok=; b=q0mvd2ekximdPcfp6/HAc5duEe5RKpFoIKLTgmBJ4FZL/eiKaOHvX6lo9tIQfUxMQB 1E8yEtg+CdMQGrhfd9E9yKVgKJER4dizORHte+Q+9H1rQLZucVjKH1MUXS2MnRiMUMuj lLlL01E1j/f6yDdPkEif7W3kWoYG1XbIOblrs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Kjck1oIP+Xln9USYP3VlP1gXaB+EtQBToqlZH560JEbMpaDmhJgRifJNn9uhIpE+Pd i6CyIhZ0+v5CBZ2I2fUE6CsDsGXi8wDS3kWDcTF0ALMQiHlM09avW7+qTLdZrrlqMgcg 4ZOlJ9yVI8fP7WagKlFmRycGXYZV7/4pVzD3c= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:33:34 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <5E740C37-8AF1-4BD1-B6A1-5815E2062D5E@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <5E740C37-8AF1-4BD1-B6A1-5815E2062D5E@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f95c017132604d35 Resent-Message-ID: <2eqkEC.A.xvB.fra9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:33:35 +0000 (UTC) new MacBook Pro has FW800 (which is compatible with FW400 but you need to buy an adaptor). new MacBook has USB2 only. boo! os. 2008/10/15 doc rossi : > I thought it had FireWire 800 rather than 400 > > On Oct 15, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> Hi folks >> >> now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: >> For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, = it >> is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! >> >> Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would be >> willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, but >> there is none. >> I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic and >> now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry a big 15= ,4" >> MacBookPro around. So... >> >> oh well... >> Buzap >> -- >> Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit alle= n: >> http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger >> > > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 09:15:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 671D13BF1C; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:15:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ut0/yCve7ydFr3SfQTGntckGITpCUOzIgrKbKOlzOmU=; b=QwEEjXUl7l7B6p3WCqVqgYA0iRkN7ERGhX69T0vDMQ8EE74d4JrnsQ6QB4dfTd41Gf eUWk4Ws+9QTImAvhHWIve65tItaaL4TfA6Mt/H9FPSQn58YSSpNqIub3F9Q/z+xbvRB2 3BnpeVG4VyIqCRilWdMM06XuxgLdhH1mai3Pw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nFh4lSRz/yIvOmgV65ToZFDgBun9KXnydiS03XtlEdMxZrpzpmvpH/wDVOuVh5fxmt 3hqpMaEbj2hl4YEfc5swkB+lhJehMMF9cy21MmS4N/LKNy9JsgyoHREvXsOkLuu190/b WAOqGlixbNav+kQx2iADpzGU6ZmHs3ipMxDrI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:15:18 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:15:19 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi folks > > now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: > For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! > > Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? Buy an older model: http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html The new MacBooks (2.0 or 2.4 GHz) feature a 1066 MHz frontside bus in contrast to the MacBook White's (2.1 Ghz) 800 MHz fontside bus. Both Intel Core 2 Duo processors with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running 1:1 with processor speed. I use the old 2.2 GHz MacBook White and find it fully sufficient. I would think different though if I was up to making multi track recordings, as when recording twenty mic inputs at one go. But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800. > I would be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, but there is none. Same solution available here: get the older model. Personally I would not buy anything new that is marketed by "New design. New features. New technologies. All engineered to standards that don't even exist yet." (quoting Apple) > I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic and now (finally :-) > with Moebius on Mac. I suggest you get a Windows XP license and use Apple's BootCamp to run it on the Mac! I've just been around doing a bunch of gigs with Mobius VST/Windows (on the MacBook) and I think a small miracle would be needed to get the same performance power into the Mac version. My experience so far is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works better (meaning zero tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio artifacts). Then I have been a pro user of Mac since the early nineties and I do prefer Mac OS X for everything else ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From rrreez@eircom.net Wed Oct 15 09:15:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:15:25 UTC Received: from mail12.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (mail12.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.118.28]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ABDC3BF26 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 55734 messnum 1901001 invoked from network[86.43.60.102/webmail02.webmail.cra.eircom.net]); 15 Oct 2008 09:08:45 -0000 Received: from webmail02.webmail.cra.eircom.net (HELO webmailclassic.eircom.net) (86.43.60.102) by mail12.svc.cra.dublin.eircom.net (qp 55734) with SMTP; 15 Oct 2008 09:08:45 -0000 From: " Mr David" Reply-To: To: davidlewis@eircom.net Subject: CONTACT MY PASTOR NOW. 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DAVID LEWIS ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 10:50:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 621E73BF1D; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lGrN5IUZfyTp2FzWdcJrvbZjw20ZSVldEQ+YjGyluxY=; b=K8kZjEAPa9i9OjkhHDgPf/ePXEH5CfP67SgSsZziPyV6sJgcZTHUYZujJDuqzFcI1n OKjyln9rw13ptq+keSiN3/9E6yeYTV6SQbfCdD3PismwjU+NyMN1jUNUum5TzvEZWUFB gTcKEeu+d+YOLpcGqoaIiFVbyijLF22hqJK5s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=MrsawhxLfCp0pNMfKB/Itr5bV3STRcMW8K7cWLtO+3bveYrA0vynnVxqBCz2+2RU+N VPCacjbv71eB/jGrJ4NjDpQn7hqSp9+aythjMRVM2Iyo3wK3J9ePnTTATydJem1e/UBc diealPjYwqdA7f4kaSNvqVr6WN/pqbR9VT2H8= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810150350p20fcfac4g9cafe7f0f41bc65f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:50:19 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo In-Reply-To: <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10892_5758039.1224067819904" References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:50:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10892_5758039.1224067819904 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Bill, I've just uploaded a new recording of a recent performance of the vocal / tape echo which hopefully doesn't contain the same distortion! Check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IdLtfWhYvs And a better hammered dulcimer/electric violin/flute one using Boss RC-50 Looping Station: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUDdob-Hew Appreciate your comments! Kayla x 2008/10/12 Bill Fox > Sorry for the harsh opinion, Kayla. I'm not trying to kick you off of the > island or anything. (Hell, I'm looperless myself at the moment!) I liked > the vocal bits but the distorted tone got in the way of your excellent jam. > Do you know what caused the distortion? > > Cheers, > > Bill > > Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > >> Wow ... um ... sorry I didn't mean to post this as an example of a great >> PA system - it was a tiny little venue doing a wee gig called "The >> Experiment". I was just experimenting with using the Tape Echo function on >> my E2, using only the voice and thought I'd post it here as I've seen others >> do likewise. Sorry you didn't like it but I guess that's what this >> constructive feedback (if you'll pardon the pun) is all about! >> Thanks for listening though :) >> >> 2008/10/12 Bill Fox > billyfox@soundscapes.us>> >> >> Kayla Kavanagh wrote: >> >> Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :) >> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4 >> >> >> That was unlistenable. That overly loud pitch distorted too >> badly. Was it PA feed back being looped? Were the speakers >> "Johnny One Notes?" Was it just a bad recording? The vocals >> sounded fine but the shit that ran through as much of the video as >> I could stand ruined it for me. >> P.S. My Headrush bit the dust last month. Do I have to leave the >> list until I get a new looper? ;-) >> >> > -- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope ------=_Part_10892_5758039.1224067819904 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Bill,

I've just uploaded a new recording of a recent performance of the vocal / tape echo which hopefully doesn't contain the same distortion! Check it out here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IdLtfWhYvs

And a better hammered dulcimer/electric violin/flute one using Boss RC-50 Looping Station:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUDdob-Hew

Appreciate your comments!

Kayla x

2008/10/12 Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us>
Sorry for the harsh opinion, Kayla.  I'm not trying to kick you off of the island or anything.  (Hell, I'm looperless myself at the moment!)  I liked the vocal bits but the distorted tone got in the way of your excellent jam.  Do you know what caused the distortion?

Cheers,

Bill

Kayla Kavanagh wrote:
Wow ... um ... sorry I didn't mean to post this as an example of a great PA system - it was a tiny little venue doing a wee gig called "The Experiment".  I was just experimenting with using the Tape Echo function on my E2, using only the voice and thought I'd post it here as I've seen others do likewise. Sorry you didn't like it but I guess that's what this constructive feedback (if you'll pardon the pun) is all about!
Thanks for listening though :)

2008/10/12 Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us <mailto:billyfox@soundscapes.us>>


   Kayla Kavanagh wrote:

       Messing about with the Tape Echo on the Akai E2 Headrush :)
       http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3QQFkiem4
       <http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope>

   That was unlistenable.  That overly loud pitch distorted too
   badly.  Was it PA feed back being looped?  Were the speakers
   "Johnny One Notes?"  Was it just a bad recording?  The vocals
   sounded fine but the shit that ran through as much of the video as
   I could stand ruined it for me.
   P.S.  My Headrush bit the dust last month.  Do I have to leave the
   list until I get a new looper?  ;-)





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------=_Part_10892_5758039.1224067819904-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 11:24:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A99E43BF1C; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9WVlyqlcGiUA:10 a=5wk7vIMZ4yIA:10 a=t-IPkPogAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=deKM-WJZAAAA:8 a=a74knEofXVZS9tAGLv4A:9 a=NEBoRk5j3PA2pCa27NgA:7 a=PiJKR2oFZAaXego3Pm8TQqhfoyEA:4 a=BFDKbZatV3MA:10 a=ziFrdkHw70AA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <62C294DA-D0B0-4B92-856E-3DF4285846A5@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:24:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Do they have an express card? On Oct 15, 2008, at 5:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> Hi folks >> >> now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: >> For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. >> Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! >> >> Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? > > > Buy an older model: > http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html > > The new MacBooks (2.0 or 2.4 GHz) feature a 1066 MHz frontside bus in > contrast to the MacBook White's (2.1 Ghz) 800 MHz fontside bus. Both > Intel Core 2 Duo processors with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running > 1:1 with processor speed. I use the old 2.2 GHz MacBook White and find > it fully sufficient. I would think different though if I was up to > making multi track recordings, as when recording twenty mic inputs at > one go. But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800. > > >> I would be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it >> had firewire, but there is none. > > Same solution available here: get the older model. Personally I would > not buy anything new that is marketed by "New design. New features. > New technologies. All engineered to standards that don't even exist > yet." (quoting Apple) > > >> I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with >> Logic and now (finally :-) >> with Moebius on Mac. > > I suggest you get a Windows XP license and use Apple's BootCamp to run > it on the Mac! > > I've just been around doing a bunch of gigs with Mobius VST/Windows > (on the MacBook) and I think a small miracle would be needed to get > the same performance power into the Mac version. My experience so far > is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works better > (meaning zero tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio artifacts). > Then I have been a pro user of Mac since the early nineties and I do > prefer Mac OS X for everything else ;-) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 11:35:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DE0C3BF1F; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1oMVvfuAb2PyQsIINr+9n/RIUubOpjsjMacYC2OpMKs=; b=kSoZy+88txULcWmZSI9aFTnu0FjwNl3SB+g/fdHw7iWej5+0ggTyP8cGzAMqIQ+hsU AziAysiVToZHZiWVqLwtEV28FKUNT1byIiMQ+cd7JKvLzuTrIKHsNHvf1twCjwW5b6Gk GtPYSjALWohHxeeIOQeOKOkh3oldiVA3h0Yiw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=APeznl2e67bMZfShwG23RWZ7Hvl8UiTcGXOs9+CFVTxjZpTQ3mAsusGZ19dUsr87gZ zYXIZ1AfNNfTQsucvBI9qpIU7Eb51x4xy6bh39fI52VorKHx8VDTHt9Qs/BNTnT5BxQa 2RJrZ62VCj34zUICUahpmgjtz46L4u+Dff6pM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810150435p45fa1da3v928361241f35a684@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:35:45 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <62C294DA-D0B0-4B92-856E-3DF4285846A5@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <62C294DA-D0B0-4B92-856E-3DF4285846A5@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:35:47 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Do they have an express card? You can check by yourself! Here are the links to both the new MacBook and the new MacBook Pro (didn't know which one your meant, since this thread is about both): http://www.apple.com/macbook/ http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 11:36:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B95E43BF29; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:36:12 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081015113612.107630@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+6Suhse4q6GlaefuGi+5hlbD9RxfkCV9NezdQ4l4 m4xNZX0BX8TCopBz7RLn/8xTyW/EPyZ2y9hA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: nuPAeX5CbUk7GZ8oyWkn2QhsZ2hlN8rk X-FuHaFi: 0.64 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:36:14 +0000 (UTC) > Buy an older model: > http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html Yeah, that's probably not a bad idea, esp. if processor is almost same. > I would not buy anything new that is marketed by "New design. New features. > New technologies. All engineered to standards that don't even exist yet." (quoting Apple) Haha:) I'd never buy any first revision hardware, anyway. I'd wait at least for second revision. > I suggest you get a Windows XP license and use Apple's BootCamp to run > it on the Mac! If I'd want to run WinXP - I wouldn't be complaining about the missing FW and simply get a Lenovo. I'm just overall very happy with the Mac OSX and would like to stick to the platform. I'd like to stick to one platform only - that would be Mac for me. > My experience so far is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works better Interesting. I'll have to see how things work out. best regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 11:43:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7693C3BF24; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:43:40 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <1f6442e00810150350p20fcfac4g9cafe7f0f41bc65f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081015114340.34540@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> <1f6442e00810150350p20fcfac4g9cafe7f0f41bc65f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/EgnodO8fE9hTXtEPY62uyRpwIHLNsLJEcfXJapV J3qLa+1jiMi2tuR0HpnbKsDiO8TxqNmxaqMQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: A6KcezNDeWUkTNt9km5nXhMjL0tsZk0g X-FuHaFi: 0.71 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:43:42 +0000 (UTC) HI Kayla listened to your performance, really nice playing. Some hints on the RC-50 usage: - Imo, the performance would be even better without the built-in rhythm. You can load a nice drum loop beforehand via USB. - The volume seems to fall quite drastically when switching from live mic to loop. - Instead of running back and forth to RC-50 for switching things, you could do the following: Connect up to 4 foot switches with long cables. You can assign the same command to 2 different pedals. This way, you could control the same functions from different locations. Watched anothter video, nice singing voice, btw :) Best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 11:46:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E45E3BF2B; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:46:51 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20081015114651.103740@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Nice RC-50 performance: Jonny Wright To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+UxMdMRpKU1HoaoKswC91neEyI9I1e0ugpxmjh76 XSZzzIiZbgFBAICuxdDDecYnOZ2QBG2CXKcQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: He3HcLEbPjl+HJwvzTQ2Uk47MTE2NUne X-FuHaFi: 0.68 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:46:53 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks going through youtube & RC50, I liked this song performed by Jonny Wright: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paYvTKVTzU8 Makes use of the RC-50 within the song in a very musical & natural way and brings in some variety, too. Good sense of rhythm. Nice performance. best regards Buzap -- GMX Kostenlose Spiele: Einfach online spielen und Spaß haben mit Pastry Passion! http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/free/puzzle/6169196 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 11:53:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3080F3BF2B; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:53:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ocJDxVkSSMbTZRZ2m3trJ0z6wz8cqbzitlQvSdtXn68=; b=aUarUhTepDZkW4QPMn5eAo+pZ8qSDwBY1ClamCoSQ1VUBrSERy5x6TO+xqlMMlcSGc VQSvo1liBDiuz/8Tj+bow7D64eHlIWQW4u9fSryUGXtGmZXxfgF8XmjWiPrJZbjPjgeB dE9FOpKqzYwyewxzwzpkJ/67NJmRAI2yox3x8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=kJi4laaF8+J612RhOAnT9aR9AVNwVfmVeUILYuqrZXZjb8MU8uJ62TK8JqpE7y4vCu T4/wmbLw8wTkyn5wjNSVv/urhpftIVsuxK4hK1djgC5ksnk29Q6tIwrgx1vdBhkDUyGj HWjCDBVlzOtqvs8FfhSZUJmVxC0WZtUl9PY/g= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810150453m639457d4k9042a42e7fc663bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:53:38 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo In-Reply-To: <20081015114340.34540@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11575_26764374.1224071618278" References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> <1f6442e00810150350p20fcfac4g9cafe7f0f41bc65f@mail.gmail.com> <20081015114340.34540@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:53:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11575_26764374.1224071618278 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Buzap! Great advice, thank you very much. I've only been using the RC-50 for about 6 months so really appreciate any hints and tips :) I agree with what you mentioned about the drum loop - definitely will be trying that out soon! Th= e reason there is a huge disparity between the live mic/loop volumes is that the sound on the video is on camera only (i.e. not picking up the PA in the hall at audience level) ... we have a Pro Tools multi-track of the whole performance which we'll be syncing up some day! I'm really interested in what you mentioned re foot switches - I have a similar problem when I want to activate my vocoder bypass and have just bought a switch for that, so I'll try it out on the RC-50 and see if it works :) Thanks so much for your helpful feedback! K x 2008/10/15 Buzap Buzap > HI Kayla > > listened to your performance, really nice playing. > > Some hints on the RC-50 usage: > - Imo, the performance would be even better without the built-in rhythm. > You can load a nice drum loop beforehand via USB. > - The volume seems to fall quite drastically when switching from live mic > to loop. > - Instead of running back and forth to RC-50 for switching things, you > could do the following: Connect up to 4 foot switches with long cables. Y= ou > can assign the same command to 2 different pedals. This way, you could > control the same functions from different locations. > > Watched anothter video, nice singing voice, btw :) > > Best regards > Buzap > > > -- > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen= : > http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > --=20 Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope ------=_Part_11575_26764374.1224071618278 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hi Buzap!

Great advice, thank you very much. I'= ve only been using the RC-50 for about 6 months so really appreciate any hi= nts and tips :) I agree with what you mentioned about the drum loop - defin= itely will be trying that out soon! The reason there is a huge disparity be= tween the live mic/loop volumes is that the sound on the video is on camera= only (i.e. not picking up the PA in the hall at audience level) ... we hav= e a Pro Tools multi-track of the whole performance which we'll be synci= ng up some day!

I'm really interested in what you mentioned re foot switches - I ha= ve a similar problem when I want to activate my vocoder bypass and have jus= t bought a switch for that, so I'll try it out on the RC-50 and see if = it works :)

Thanks so much for your helpful feedback!

K x

2008/10/15 Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>
HI Kayla

listened to your performance, really nice playing.

Some hints on the RC-50 usage:
- Imo, the performance would be even better without the built-in rhythm. Yo= u can load a nice drum loop beforehand via USB.
- The volume seems to fall quite drastically when switching from live mic t= o loop.
- Instead of running back and forth to RC-50 for switching things, you coul= d do the following: Connect up to 4 foot switches with long cables. You can= assign the same command to 2 different pedals. This way, you could control= the same functions from different locations.

Watched anothter video, nice singing voice, btw :)

Best regards
Buzap


--
Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? Der kann`s mit allen: = http:= //www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger




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------=_Part_11575_26764374.1224071618278-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 12:58:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E9D3BF27; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 69927020 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Portable recording device Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:58:56 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA101633435@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Portable recording device Thread-Index: AckuxcjLwmRDbrsFSTmSfxKQLYMfgQ== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2008 12:58:57.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[C94E59C0:01C92EC5] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <4aP6lD.A.EZB.Tke9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:58:59 +0000 (UTC) >>I can at least say from experience that the Zoom H2 can really make quite decent recordings. However, as I am also finding out, it is NOT particularly rugged. A couple of things have broken on mine already . . . it's cheap because it's largely plastic.<< my zoom H2 has a plastic suit, made of some sort of silicon rubber, that means it bounces when it's dropped now. got it from amazon. it's enough to protect the thing from normal knocks & bumps anyway.=20 the problem I have with the H2 is nothing to do with noisy pre-amps or input sensitivity, although there's a learning curve associated with this latter, it's that the damn power switch is so easy to knock while the thing is in a pocket or bag. to solve this, it now gets packed away with a small strip of gaffa tape on the power switch. problem solved. the H2 is a bargain. duncan. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 13:43:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E41E83BF2C; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:43:48 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <100888437e0afc494dda4a04c194e696@EduardoMartinez.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-957486642 From: "Eduardo Martinez - musician, composer, artist" Subject: Re: Portable recording device Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:37:02 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:43:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-957486642 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi all, I am new to looping, but learning a lot via the contributions in this group. Of the various lists I subscribe to, this one I read all the messages. I am a classical guitar player & composer, & especially interested in those doing acoustic instrument looping. I also love/use electronics & computers (Kyma/Capybara, U&I MetaSynth, etc.). In terms of portable recording devices, I have a Zoom H4 & I am very happy with it. (I don't have any connections to any of the portable recorder manufacturers, except as a user). I record my guitar practice sessions quite regularly with the H4, as well as my sound & drumming improvisational circles/gatherings (5-25+ people). I have also looked at the Zoom H2, The Sony PCM-D50, & the Korg units (MR1000 (5.6MHz) & MR1(2.8MHz)). I like them all for different reasons. The advantage of the Korg units is that they record in DSD, which makes them future-proof. Even though you need to convert the recording now to let's say, a 96KHz file, if/when a new standard appears, you will have the ability to convert to this new file standard with your archived DSD recordings, at no quality loss. A small conversion price to pay for the ability to be future-proof, I feel. (http://www.korg.com/mr/) Here is a website with extensive sound samples for the various portable recorders. The neat thing about the website is that there are various samples of instruments & voice, to give you a better idea how a recorder will perform for your particular application: http://www.wingfieldaudio.com/portable-recorder-sound-samples.html A word of caution is that the original 16-bit/44.1kHz wav files have been compressed into mp3 files for web posting. But the sound samples are great for a relative comparison, plus if something sounds good on this page, the actual recording will sound even better. I've listened to quite a few of the samples & can hear nuances to the recordings, but all in all, everything I've heard sounds great. Hope this helps. Blessings, Eduardo Martinez musician - composer - artist www.EduardoMartinez.com Nashua, NH USA --Apple-Mail-1-957486642 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I am new to looping, but learning a lot via the contributions in this group. Of the various lists I subscribe to, this one I read all the messages. I am a classical guitar player & composer, & especially interested in those doing acoustic instrument looping. I also love/use electronics & computers (Kyma/Capybara, U&I MetaSynth, etc.). In terms of portable recording devices, I have a Zoom H4 & I am very happy with it. (I don't have any connections to any of the portable recorder manufacturers, except as a user). I record my guitar practice sessions quite regularly with the H4, as well as my sound & drumming improvisational circles/gatherings (5-25+ people). I have also looked at the Zoom H2, The Sony PCM-D50, & the Korg units (MR1000 (5.6MHz) & MR1(2.8MHz)). I like them all for different reasons. The advantage of the Korg units is that they record in DSD, which makes them future-proof. Even though you need to convert the recording now to let's say, a 96KHz file, if/when a new standard appears, you will have the ability to convert to this new file standard with your archived DSD recordings, at no quality loss. A small conversion price to pay for the ability to be future-proof, I feel. (http://www.korg.com/mr/) Here is a website with extensive sound samples for the various portable recorders. The neat thing about the website is that there are various samples of instruments & voice, to give you a better idea how a recorder will perform for your particular application: http://www.wingfieldaudio.com/portable-recorder-sound-samples.html A word of caution is that the original 16-bit/44.1kHz wav files have been compressed into mp3 files for web posting. But the sound samples are great for a relative comparison, plus if something sounds good on this page, the actual recording will sound even better. I've listened to quite a few of the samples & can hear nuances to the recordings, but all in all, everything I've heard sounds great. Hope this helps. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 14:25:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6E513BF2F; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9GM1v7rN6FOJbJDzG7IzekPEiSMeX6iM+VikDvVOeVQ=; b=Bg6Co5PmNu+b4UHs4qkHSmfU00UauYxHYN2oAvJD9Wz/poohx7wUErSstPaarz/Ri5 umS02PcIasekdm0Q4HdSSyB08zDQtaZzwZRsEVX/QFlV2SgOkGjlSMCMCAiSzFraT3Yv x/NlsFH8jeQQlFYtqKRMGB8UqrUGv6FyqaGn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=UBf/gAZ0W6IlPED3V7tpp1DkSudmcQDoGRMtNm2aovxa95y4OygxC3qUnNm0Q2CD/K qP2u3yJRT+zxBicF0xXhISLpkjVSTigQnr1szBRBw3+1LZGu2dZMKPIaso8KVxigHdPl TItRVbyVWqF7j9vldREDvmvtXeaw0PdI2FTh8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:24:58 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Portable recording device In-Reply-To: <100888437e0afc494dda4a04c194e696@EduardoMartinez.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_76328_1420684.1224080698781" References: <100888437e0afc494dda4a04c194e696@EduardoMartinez.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:25:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_76328_1420684.1224080698781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I have the first version of the Edirol R-09. It's a good unit, but not great. Sound can be harsh and the ergonomics are poor if you aren't holding the unit. For example, if I'm recording while performing, I need to be able to check the levels and adjust them easily, while having the mics in the ideal position. With the Edirol, to get the cardioid mics pointed how I want them, I frequently can't see the clip warning while playing/recording. Then there's the battery/card/mini-USB port with its flimsy, annoying door. (Note that the new version has supposedly corrected at least this latter problem, and I think it even has a remote, which is a great feature.) When I feared I'd lost my trusty Edirol (despite its warts, it's a fantastic scratch pad) I went on a hunt for a replacement, knowing full well that I'd find the Edirol as soon as I bought a new recorder. After much research, I settled on the Sony D50. Frankly, I couldn't be happier. Nearly all of the important functions have buttons, all of which are different not only in position, but in shape or size or color, making it very, very easy to operate the device without even looking at it. And when you do look at it, it's got a larger, more legible display than the Edirol (or any of the other mini-recorders, as I recall.) For example, it's really nice, while recording a long improvisation, or a longer stream of found sound, to hit the Sony's 'divide' button, which immediately and seamlessly starts a new file. This makes going through lots of recorded data easier. The Sony is larger than most of the recorders, but, for this purpose, I'd rather (to put it in Star Trek terms) have a tricorder than a tiny, fiddly communicator. Finally, the Sony has a brilliant feature that I think no other mini recorder possesses: its built in limiter. This isn't a brick wall, it's a system whereby the Sony records the signal both at 0dB and at -20dB. If you go over 0dB, the clipped signal is replaced with the signal recorded at -20db. Particularly in field recordings, with huge and often unpredictable dynamic shifts, this feature is fantastic and does, indeed, work as advertised. The D50 has an external miniUSB port and simply mounts on a computer as a drive. You can buy a tripod (which I highly recommend) and a corded remote (which I own, but haven't yet had the chance to use.) The built in condensers are decent, and can be adjusted between 90deg XY, parallel for more directional recording, and 120deg for a broader stereo field. When I recorded a performance I did at a local restaurant, through my Mackie HR824s, it literally sounded as it would have were I sitting at a table listening to a performance, reproducing not just the music, but the ambient environment of the space and the people within it. That, to me, was as remarkable (and important) as the quality of musical reproduction. Finally, it's made of metal, not plastic. It's a sturdy unit. It's definitely worth the extra ducats. It would still be nice to have phantom powered XLR inputs, but, other than that, I have no complaints, and I've owned it for several months. By the way -- the day after I purchased the Sony, I did, indeed, find the Edirol. Annoying and predictable, but it did allow me to comapre the two units side by side, without relying upon my memory, or recordings done at different times/place/positions. -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_76328_1420684.1224080698781 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I have the first version of the Edirol R-09. It's a good unit, but not great. Sound can be harsh and the ergonomics are poor if you aren't holding the unit. For example, if I'm recording while performing, I need to be able to check the levels and adjust them easily, while having the mics in the ideal position. With the Edirol, to get the cardioid mics pointed how I want them, I frequently can't see the clip warning while playing/recording. Then there's the battery/card/mini-USB port with its flimsy, annoying door. (Note that the new version has supposedly corrected at least this latter problem, and I think it even has a remote, which is a great feature.)

When I feared I'd lost my trusty Edirol (despite its warts, it's a fantastic scratch pad) I went on a hunt for a replacement, knowing full well that I'd find the Edirol as soon as I bought a new recorder.

After much research, I settled on the Sony D50. Frankly, I couldn't be happier. Nearly all of the important functions have buttons, all of which are different not only in position, but in shape or size or color, making it very, very easy to operate the device without even looking at it. And when you do look at it, it's got a larger, more legible display than the Edirol (or any of the other mini-recorders, as I recall.) For example, it's really nice, while recording a long improvisation, or a longer stream of found sound, to hit the Sony's 'divide' button, which immediately and seamlessly starts a new file. This makes going through lots of recorded data easier. The Sony is larger than most of the recorders, but, for this purpose, I'd rather (to put it in Star Trek terms) have a tricorder than a tiny, fiddly communicator.

Finally, the Sony has a brilliant feature that I think no other mini recorder possesses: its built in limiter. This isn't a brick wall, it's a system whereby the Sony records the signal both at 0dB and at -20dB. If you go over 0dB, the clipped signal is replaced with the signal recorded at -20db. Particularly in field recordings, with huge and often unpredictable dynamic shifts, this feature is fantastic and does, indeed, work as advertised.

The D50 has an external miniUSB port and simply mounts on a computer as a drive. You can buy a tripod (which I highly recommend) and a corded remote (which I own, but haven't yet had the chance to use.)

The built in condensers are decent, and can be adjusted between 90deg XY, parallel for more directional recording, and 120deg for a broader stereo field. When I recorded a performance I did at a local restaurant, through my Mackie HR824s, it literally sounded as it would have were I sitting at a table listening to a performance, reproducing not just the music, but the ambient environment of the space and the people within it. That, to me, was as remarkable (and important) as the quality of musical reproduction.

Finally, it's made of metal, not plastic. It's a sturdy unit. It's definitely worth the extra ducats.

It would still be nice to have phantom powered XLR inputs, but, other than that, I have no complaints, and I've owned it for several months.

By the way -- the day after I purchased the Sony, I did, indeed, find the Edirol. Annoying and predictable, but it did allow me to comapre the two units side by side, without relying upon my memory, or recordings done at different times/place/positions.

--
Zak Kramer
Crazyquilt Arts & Music
 http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/
------=_Part_76328_1420684.1224080698781-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 14:55:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE8F23BF2E; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=TcbZDLtah29kO0FZFuXs1b77ulj0HBsfVoHZihkkeJeNyBveAYfUTSeNsw6uM5V7d7i+GX/28bG4u8fZZggYV+hYpLM9gabbpf3jp/mcEW5rLjNoIDQ8tGw00OJAfZJcnJj3c14x636g0y6TiMbPPUEQyw7blRiwH0Z8pKqfyO0=; X-YMail-OSG: OU4XmMMVM1m65mrEbGAwzv3zyuz.WMDMuUBPBrtGUr8dqbqqJrRbKox7lXkGO06WhaFZQ4T2_mCgJO6D0AICHcnORs5PpsqqTTVa4V_gkypJXjDr6DLZUDBa2ifcYhMB2rZEPzpfmX0QOtbiT_Aexotg_cyFOaRLYyNWf7FXyOoT4ez2EgWmchLNO0kQBQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:55:01 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: Zoom H2 hack (was: Portable recording device) To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1802857997-1224082501=:17777" Message-ID: <556777.17777.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:55:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-1802857997-1224082501=:17777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 This was posted on the phonography list-serv - might be of interest to thos= e with the H2 and wanting to upgrade/convert it to a 4 channel unit... =A0 http://www.hackszine.com/blog/archive/2008/09/zoom_h2_line_inputs_make_a_4_= c.html =A0 =A0 Ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog =0A=0A=0A --0-1802857997-1224082501=:17777 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 
This was posted on the phonography list-serv - might be of interest to those with the H2 and wanting to upgrade/convert it to a 4 channel unit...
 
 
 
Ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--0-1802857997-1224082501=:17777-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 16:15:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39C6C3BF37; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1820 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:15:01 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.5 X-EN-IMPSID: T3kg1a00506ZpSa0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:44:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810150435p45fa1da3v928361241f35a684@mail.gmail.co m> References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <62C294DA-D0B0-4B92-856E-3DF4285846A5@comcast.net> <66f9cc1e0810150435p45fa1da3v928361241f35a684@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 8a678e7a1842afbad60fe446da7a5956:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog@creepingfog.com Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20081015161501.E09CE3BF30@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:15:02 +0000 (UTC) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/10/14/what-the-new-apple-laptop-port-changes-mean-for-audio/ At 2008.10.15 04:35 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Chris Sewell > wrote: > > > Do they have an express card? > > >You can check by yourself! Here are the links to both the new MacBook >and the new MacBook Pro (didn't know which one your meant, since this >thread is about both): >http://www.apple.com/macbook/ >http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 16:29:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B25293BF40; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3599F8291A764E1DBFB4EA7449F46A1C@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: , "Loopers Delight" References: <556777.17777.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Zoom H2 hack (was: Portable recording device) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:29:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C92EA8.91ECF9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:29:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C92EA8.91ECF9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting. Sure is an ugly hack using the parts that he used. I = wonder if there are better connectors and switches to use. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C92EA8.91ECF9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting.  Sure is an ugly hack = using the=20 parts that he used.  I wonder if there are better connectors and = switches=20 to use.
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C92EA8.91ECF9E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 17:09:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1790F3BF42; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=i+wjLXmrZtlv3MQhKV8aGGA7dsy5RoIjWSghHbzzQm+FcAdyQBULo/mLhhhP57G3Q/kg4Oda3iysVAmldupz2HeSvUKok3gID2/TbZHq6hLe67DqKJpMND3TUPtordMkY7Y5QyRwfJ8y7wGtXSCIBIYvfb/ZFLIkhXpZtCyGWZY=; X-YMail-OSG: 1.PcS58VM1nmRKjs9iumkrTvFhriLcT3_q1jHoHlnRNF9faSQmO9b9CkQY9GULYrd_XHotH1AEDZlVL.XLOAfL7bcslfPIxBXH6Psv9NVdlEyjaGNRv7wG_Gb6Aa9Aal_.eRoMkM72Ic7xOlGSCFFpzc8YYa.hYA2tAkSdm4SO4TawUmahU_g6va.ISi X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:09:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Fun youtube loop Rod Eldridge To: loop list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1938701065-1224090597=:18804" Message-ID: <513660.18804.qm@web42102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9NglVC.A.HxH.mPi9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:09:58 +0000 (UTC) --0-1938701065-1224090597=:18804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm pretty much a newbie here, so this may be well known or perhaps of litt= le interest, but I just found this and thought it was a great, fun bit of l= ooping... =A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DU4QllNtoFvQ&feature=3Drelated --0-1938701065-1224090597=:18804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I'm pretty much a newbie here, so this may be well known or perhaps of little interest, but I just found this and thought it was a great, fun bit of looping...
 
--0-1938701065-1224090597=:18804-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 17:10:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 923313BF47; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:10:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=HB5ho959bI1IHCIfFeEj2OJsjIkO2aeEuzfx39OyBBE=; b=SUj3h6BwQhdQdFOo/lLeOOAP1b9z8T4RoPCtH9hoDzH0bDon06CmCHtZTme9AalNUF esa75xuCNHj+5IxnBYOA7sIbQ+ngpUVRQ6hswhoXZX2OaOXABP98w9wudNJEYHBgyslx NocKzLOEUQ0WvXHRYjZ6lKoPmjSm2P5u1HqFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MVZJhaSwyOOzDIES0FfRD5DxOYMMpNxamCrrPkTBpT/AtqQw1Mct/DGtsPDwXxCuYD Y4lXZewUqxgsgg/MzpRQPt8AKYhGia2ZufNv7/o5OpeBr1ZSdsDYawXb6+NQjd73v4Cv BhyPX06nd0EFAYzWg8YQuSwvAWOPxdXutrK8w= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810151005y5d152333sa17e288dad85df08@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:05:00 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Looping upright bass? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:10:49 +0000 (UTC) I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into a lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I can't play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on each pass. I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. ( http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html ) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the noise gets multiplied. I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the noise and/or hum. I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into the ultralite without success either. Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound playing the bass arco or pizz? Thank you in advance, Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 18:23:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8122D3BF3D; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=irkjxprnxzc9FI5DSiLZokUVoLhgMaURoURSD+g8YCY=; b=spLa5z7WRV5ZvImwrUvUjCSTF/itMzq5yh3bJIpcdXJQbLeasvUHXZ7VKnBw22jX7K svFFFp1U3j/x2vBHIdPS2UCV63cg4n7oJ5kVNmLEaZH7XwSUyowNKg6p7bhVQvt4J2SQ dRujRf3H7ENmk4OHsJBfsaukgeO2ACSUV4r58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=bJ6F6Qa2fx1ai5mzq+orBhgfyuGyMELfdO1a1/RR2Y92fJ+VR+J5jcjoQXKSRuQCYA QCI5RynjS0fprJ0iEJQlbyJv6/g208AQjWAgmMjrgqbXaw//pvObk4z/fsQWAgANwsiK qwmLK9Xc/jPprf6jeDn76LC2xgxHYiQZjqqK0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:23:46 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Portable recording device In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <100888437e0afc494dda4a04c194e696@EduardoMartinez.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Great! Thanx for all the advice and feedback on the various products. Will look into them in some depth. Byron On 10/15/08, Zak Kramer wrote: > I have the first version of the Edirol R-09. It's a good unit, but not > great. Sound can be harsh and the ergonomics are poor if you aren't holding > the unit. For example, if I'm recording while performing, I need to be able > to check the levels and adjust them easily, while having the mics in the > ideal position. With the Edirol, to get the cardioid mics pointed how I want > them, I frequently can't see the clip warning while playing/recording. Then > there's the battery/card/mini-USB port with its flimsy, annoying door. (Note > that the new version has supposedly corrected at least this latter problem, > and I think it even has a remote, which is a great feature.) > > When I feared I'd lost my trusty Edirol (despite its warts, it's a fantastic > scratch pad) I went on a hunt for a replacement, knowing full well that I'd > find the Edirol as soon as I bought a new recorder. > > After much research, I settled on the Sony D50. Frankly, I couldn't be > happier. Nearly all of the important functions have buttons, all of which > are different not only in position, but in shape or size or color, making it > very, very easy to operate the device without even looking at it. And when > you do look at it, it's got a larger, more legible display than the Edirol > (or any of the other mini-recorders, as I recall.) For example, it's really > nice, while recording a long improvisation, or a longer stream of found > sound, to hit the Sony's 'divide' button, which immediately and seamlessly > starts a new file. This makes going through lots of recorded data easier. > The Sony is larger than most of the recorders, but, for this purpose, I'd > rather (to put it in Star Trek terms) have a tricorder than a tiny, fiddly > communicator. > > Finally, the Sony has a brilliant feature that I think no other mini > recorder possesses: its built in limiter. This isn't a brick wall, it's a > system whereby the Sony records the signal both at 0dB and at -20dB. If you > go over 0dB, the clipped signal is replaced with the signal recorded at > -20db. Particularly in field recordings, with huge and often unpredictable > dynamic shifts, this feature is fantastic and does, indeed, work as > advertised. > > The D50 has an external miniUSB port and simply mounts on a computer as a > drive. You can buy a tripod (which I highly recommend) and a corded remote > (which I own, but haven't yet had the chance to use.) > > The built in condensers are decent, and can be adjusted between 90deg XY, > parallel for more directional recording, and 120deg for a broader stereo > field. When I recorded a performance I did at a local restaurant, through my > Mackie HR824s, it literally sounded as it would have were I sitting at a > table listening to a performance, reproducing not just the music, but the > ambient environment of the space and the people within it. That, to me, was > as remarkable (and important) as the quality of musical reproduction. > > Finally, it's made of metal, not plastic. It's a sturdy unit. It's > definitely worth the extra ducats. > > It would still be nice to have phantom powered XLR inputs, but, other than > that, I have no complaints, and I've owned it for several months. > > By the way -- the day after I purchased the Sony, I did, indeed, find the > Edirol. Annoying and predictable, but it did allow me to comapre the two > units side by side, without relying upon my memory, or recordings done at > different times/place/positions. > > -- > Zak Kramer > Crazyquilt Arts & Music > http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 18:24:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B28143BF45; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:24:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=6hubIV+hYTP6YlEcxpdZ4pH6n299+NBZw+Q1u3ew/UtbUO0/yMd6rca08vd4gQLWYPcR/Y/j9helF3JWdV2fgav8tfAXmRi6mssU80TyjwlP2Pe+uSw62Puq7J11fZBMglzFC9x9h6SkPaWtGVCxxsDedhn024YDvIoYlwPnUJ0=; X-YMail-OSG: PA3CqlIVM1l9ly7AU2vxykcR3u1VRcrjOVTaTG4eZHU9QGEhTvO7038ZjPqg0B.1f.6xtYd6A.ZsXeqjToFW2LztS3rP58uenOOdknpCC8rExsKHEAa4vUBbdssxT73ModYxfH5xS4LmibVDRAQ118Pi2w-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:24:22 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0810151005y5d152333sa17e288dad85df08@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1157083855-1224095062=:1732" Message-ID: <547229.1732.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:24:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-1157083855-1224095062=:1732 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Hi, Todd.=A0 We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thoug= ht I should speak up! =A0 I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from=A0a pre-amp, as opposed to= =A0a DI, which will=A0boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, e= tc. which I think is there because you need to turn it up too much to get a= decent signal into your ultralite. =A0 Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups.=A0 I know the F= ishman Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and generally highly re= commended.=A0 http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLAT= INUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html.=A0=20 =A0 I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it.=A0 http://www.art= proaudio.com/products.asp?type=3D79&cat=3D1&id=3D1.=A0 It doesn't have an E= Q (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big deal for me. =A0 I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to email t= hem to see if they recommend a certain unit. =A0 For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass - www.= talkbass.com =A0 Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions. =A0 =A0 Ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: From: Todd Matthews Subject: Looping upright bass? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into a lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I can't play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on each pass. I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. ( http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELL= O_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html ) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the noise gets multiplied. I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the noise and/or hum. I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into the ultralite without success either. Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound playing the bass arco or pizz? Thank you in advance, Todd =0A=0A=0A --0-1157083855-1224095062=:1732 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 
Hi, Todd.  We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak up!
 
I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from a pre-amp, as opposed to a DI, which will boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, etc. which I think is there because you need to turn it up too much to get a decent signal into your ultralite.
 
Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups.  I know the Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and generally highly recommended.  http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html. 
 
I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it.  http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1.  It doesn't have an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big deal for me.
 
I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to email them to see if they recommend a certain unit.
 
For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass - www.talkbass.com
 
Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions.
 
 
Ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Subject: Looping upright bass?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM

I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into a
lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have
been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my
recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how
to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm
using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This
sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I can't
play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much
better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on
each pass.

I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a
bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes
between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. (
http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html
) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live
and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After
doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug
the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU
ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still
extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the
noise gets multiplied.

I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most
pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound
good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good
recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge
the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the
noise and/or hum.

I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp
into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into
the ultralite without success either.


Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a
mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound
playing the bass arco or pizz?

Thank you in advance,

Todd

--0-1157083855-1224095062=:1732-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 19:05:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0925D3BF45; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=uECC8vk5iBU6EDojfxMbRusXp1wkn9O7fuwFgwQ754axNULOG/pBHIuCXIt06iwX; h=Received:Mime-Version:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <547229.1732.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <547229.1732.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:03:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Hussein Zwicky Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-988025097==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: 9ba5b8dfa8c1229f1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79f3869a98b978d9ac4faedcc32c6ab925350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.190.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:05:21 +0000 (UTC) --============_-988025097==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at least two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous ensemble work he's produced since the mid 1970s.... http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1606047/a/Pendulum.htm http://bassisthebase.multiply.com/photos/album/8 > >Hi, Todd. We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so >thought I should speak up! > >I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from a pre-amp, as opposed >to a DI, which will boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the >hiss, etc. which I think is there because you need to turn it up too >much to get a decent signal into your ultralite. > >Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups. I know >the Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and >generally highly recommended. >http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html. > >I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it. >http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1. >It doesn't have an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big >deal for me. > >I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to >email them to see if they recommend a certain unit. > >For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass >- www.talkbass.com > >Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions. > > >Ted. >Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > >--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: > >From: Todd Matthews >Subject: Looping upright bass? >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM > >I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into a >lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have >been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my >recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how >to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm >using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This >sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I can't >play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much >better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on >each pass. > >I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a >bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes >between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. ( >http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html >) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live >and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After >doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug >the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU >ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still >extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the >noise gets multiplied. > >I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most >pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound >good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good >recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge >the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the >noise and/or hum. > >I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp >into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into >the ultralite without success either. > > >Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a >mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound >playing the bass arco or pizz? > >Thank you in advance, > >Todd -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-988025097==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Looping upright bass?
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at least two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous ensemble work he's produced since the mid 1970s....

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1606047/a/Pendulum.htm

http://bassisthebase.multiply.com/photos/album/8


 
Hi, Todd.  We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak up!
 
I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from a pre-amp, as opposed to a DI, which will boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, etc. which I think is there because you need to turn it up too much to get a decent signal into your ultralite.
 
Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups.  I know the Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and generally highly recommended.  http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html.
 
I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it.  http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1.  It doesn't have an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big deal for me.
 
I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to email them to see if they recommend a certain unit.
 
For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass - www.talkbass.com
 
Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions.
 
 
Ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
Subject: Looping upright bass?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM
I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into a
lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have
been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my
recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how
to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm
using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This
sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I can't
play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much
better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on
each pass.

I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a
bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes
between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. (
http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html
) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live
and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After
doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug
the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU
ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still
extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the
noise gets multiplied.

I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most
pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound
good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good
recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge
the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the
noise and/or hum.

I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp
into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into
the ultralite without success either.


Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a
mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound
playing the bass arco or pizz?

Thank you in advance,

Todd


--
...
http://www.zmix.net
--============_-988025097==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 19:07:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA8983BF50; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:07:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FYcQ9bMqD9KiNovufy6GFammUfJcI6oXcjV2Sp1pOzE=; b=KFiGiBfWt2VFS/450CMVjMv+iYp9MMVvohZ6YIbMwiCuLXmS7mJp7IiDMLd9BwhSIr wMSW115ci+m1xsMcJoy4f43DooAFAfYg+++DUPfztaL6oS0BsUuux1pA2+fOUXfjs6fN rK0LZ+ohzKPoPFEhUWtxaOr7JyK50i+EHoL0k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=S3Wkl/gdyG4drLe2TX4JYstJ7XhNJh2YmXaz3fLve4m/Mq5gBo0TZZTOKSU/R6AMrs lEC/1Y7T1GAE3SE+546rQM1MW4HUJazJHpNqqNB4D9aUd4u+W0kkC+o+4OfYOUIzGTmz KZ7+f9/1VeNp9fDGR0FR4pbn0uidjfBof5iEU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:07:47 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9338_14824214.1224097667867" References: <547229.1732.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:07:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9338_14824214.1224097667867 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well, since Eberhard's not on LD, sounds like there's still only two looping double-bassists on the list. TH On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Charles Hussein Zwicky < cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote: > Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at least > two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous ensemble work > he's produced since the mid 1970s.... > > > > > Hi, Todd. We might be the only two looping double-bassists *here* so > thought I should speak up! > > ------=_Part_9338_14824214.1224097667867 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Well, since Eberhard's not on LD, sounds like there's still only two looping double-bassists on the list.

TH



On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Charles Hussein Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at least two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous ensemble work he's produced since the mid 1970s....


 
Hi, Todd.  We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak up!

------=_Part_9338_14824214.1224097667867-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 19:18:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3CF3BF51; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 407 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:18:00 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 523546.7021.bm@omp206.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=EnRDitCMumUmfeE2w1ao6/0Jhp7n6iNmFgiHwuFkqYkXHyEhvQjWux7xQmaKkCPlRDIFot0BpQUKokux3UNkodnCjCP5wuY2Dn2Pvc3DzvP+DrdkS3KvXimW1SJyuqNKh+PbMlrz3H1wXIJyRsBso/BAVoWhgVJhhsvOYEiQ+rU=; X-YMail-OSG: lSheMQkVM1kVZoLk_2c8IP7ZyThqAcWGrDtCvFIQKWKBpIdGnVAtgHS6fbPmv6seclmuXrG8LwV.9BKFDbc8MtO2Ekj.seEf1F1ketAMtKtZdY.LUqBaRzQ8BkeYnsJXG_alZ4vhXosBZGEWFAMNZyoYSE8- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: E Gross Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-171620337-1224097872=:5927" Message-ID: <406696.5927.qm@web45905.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:18:01 +0000 (UTC) --0-171620337-1224097872=:5927 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Todd,=0A=0AA friend of mine plays upright in a working band, here is wha= t he uses:=0A=0AI use a Bass Max Upright Bass Pickup (transducer) placed on= the G string side of the bridge, I bought it from Golihurmusic.com. I run = it through a Tech 21 SanSamp Bass DI box I got from musicians friend. If I = were going to do it again, I would probable look at the new Para Bass DI fr= om Tech 21, or the Radial Engineering ToneBone PZ Pre Dual Channel Preampli= fier=A0also at Golihurmusic.=0AEric=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AF= rom: Todd Matthews =0ATo: Loopers-Delight@loopers-del= ight.com=0ASent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:05:00 PM=0ASubject: Looping = upright bass?=0A=0AI've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I'v= e run into a=0Alot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practic= e I have=0Abeen recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my= =0Arecording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how=0A= to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm=0Ausing a= mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This=0Asounds great = now but won't work for live performance because I can't=0Aplay through spea= kers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much=0Abetter for feedback an= d to keep the loops from being re-recorded on=0Aeach pass.=0A=0AI borrowed = a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a=0Abow or pizzicato= through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes=0Abetween the top of t= he bass and under the foot of the bridge. (=0Ahttp://www.gollihurmusic.com/= product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html=0A) Wh= en I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live=0Aand Soo= perlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After=0Adoing some = research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug=0Athe bass into b= etween the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU=0Aultralite. Using it = as a directbox sounded better but it is still=0Aextremely noisy which won't= work for looping. Every time I overdub the=0Anoise gets multiplied.=0A=0AI= really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most=0Apic= kups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound=0Agood pl= ugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good=0Arecording = with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge=0Athe gap and g= et the sound of the bass into my computer without all the=0Anoise and/or hu= m.=0A=0AI also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the a= mp=0Ainto the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into= =0Athe ultralite without success either.=0A=0A=0AAnybody have any advice on= how I can loop upright bass without using a=0Amic (preferrably with this R= ealist pickup) and with quality sound=0Aplaying the bass arco or pizz?=0A= =0AThank you in advance,=0A=0ATodd=0A=0A=0A --0-171620337-1224097872=:5927 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Todd,
 
A friend of mine plays upright in a working band, here is what he uses:
 
I use a Bass Max Upright Bass Pickup (transducer) placed on the G string side of the bridge, I bought it from Golihurmusic.com. I run it through a Tech 21 SanSamp Bass DI box I got from musicians friend. If I were going to do it again, I would probable look at the new Para Bass DI from Tech 21, or the Radial Engineering ToneBone PZ Pre Dual Channel Preamplifier also at Golihurmusic.

Eric

----- Original Message ----
From: Todd Matthews <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 1:05:00 PM
Subject: Looping upright bass?

I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into a
lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have
been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my
recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how
to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm
using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This
sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I can't
play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much
better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on
each pass.

I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds great using a
bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes
between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. (
http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html
) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live
and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After
doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug
the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU
ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still
extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the
noise gets multiplied.

I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most
pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound
good plugged into my bass amp, and I know my ultralite can sound good
recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge
the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the
noise and/or hum.

I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp
into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into
the ultralite without success either.


Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a
mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound
playing the bass arco or pizz?

Thank you in advance,

Todd


--0-171620337-1224097872=:5927-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 20:38:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8F473BF50; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:38:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 678 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:38:22 UTC Message-ID: <48F65214.5050004@gordius.be> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:27:00 +0200 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? References: <547229.1732.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:38:22 +0000 (UTC) If I ever would have the nerve to dive into the world of looping, I think it would be with double bass...
( I recently ordered a Fishman Pro-EQ Platinum too, just based on some reviews, no experience with it )
The only double bass looper I saw live, was this belgian guy : http://www.chrismentens.be/
Not sure but I think he used a mic  (he did only 1 short tune solo looping). And I definitely noticed then how disturbing noisy footswitches can be....  ;-) 
Even very noticeable on his CD recording - listen to the "Bass Intro" fragment on his website -> discography -> Drivin'

Anyway, this still keeps the LD double-bass looper count on two!

Travis Hartnett wrote:
Well, since Eberhard's not on LD, sounds like there's still only two looping double-bassists on the list.

TH



On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Charles Hussein Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at least two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous ensemble work he's produced since the mid 1970s....


 
Hi, Todd.  We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak up!


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 20:57:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67D443BF51; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBOUUJAW4= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Looping upright bass? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:57:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AckvBfgRRhl42LyPRMO/llfKANe4WQAAmjIw In-Reply-To: <48F65214.5050004@gordius.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:57:11 +0000 (UTC) I'm not entirely sure if I remember this correctly, but I believe the double bass player of The Deep End Ensemble (Wilbo Wright) does some looping as well. Krispen/Ted, can you confirm this? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 21:13:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E51DC3BF52; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:13:49 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <20081015161501.E09CE3BF30@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-ID: <20081015211349.264000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <62C294DA-D0B0-4B92-856E-3DF4285846A5@comcast.net> <66f9cc1e0810150435p45fa1da3v928361241f35a684@mail.gmail.com> <20081015161501.E09CE3BF30@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/icNRkEH7iGOCoKUYbUHY7/1XB2eklXlToZxSmr8 eCNHgpxbD0NOtXTmAlhNh0VNt2TeKiFI1UEQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: OmXAeRJUYmYBe58snnY3GCtCWkZTQRTM X-FuHaFi: 0.85 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the post, I think it is a good chance to give feedback to Apple if anyone wishes to do so: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macbook.html -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 21:20:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C67253BF56; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=53ZDLYuqARJ-hkOb1CwA:9 a=lnvpHPFh4L-oCsLGFB3VLsPzuxYA:4 a=UD3EFyfc0L8A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <994A8D3E-3277-4FA5-A90B-53721B7626DC@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Greatest Cover Ever! Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:20:15 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:20:17 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 21:25:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 817483BF53; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.30.28] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:25:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2008 21:25:32.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DDF3B60:01C92F0C] Resent-Message-ID: <_FFDqC.A.JQ.O_l9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:25:34 +0000 (UTC) Yes, he did, especially at KyberMusik, where he played mostly solo on just his upright. Also, there is another guy on this list that does some amazing looping on the bass, Jair-Rohm Wells Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: AW: Looping upright bass? > I'm not entirely sure if I remember this correctly, but I believe the > double > bass player of The Deep End Ensemble (Wilbo Wright) does some looping as > well. Krispen/Ted, can you confirm this? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 21:27:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9F503BF5A; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=8xVe5dgkSF7V2t+vmi/Fu8YFIQX4tY+m1p1jDMYO4mE=; b=iz/pgSztXKh4PD5nf6+eZ8ra153PAxRbBtq3Rw/x7peMO7qLYI5MA+ZU6bcwqONImp nF4cB2RUX2F34L6aU2nyryhFg17H1SWGqw+53onK5/6TZIUi4xOr37obUDIWPiY48OX2 ZpzW+nfnYWNnrIZmJLAQgsJ9pSXHGImhbaahI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=GIUepzHSV5SLuIhTo2Zeng/m6xvO7EJLsvIlZRMVh2bM4AfNfixXlH5ZC4X+XHPtym 4Ke3cyta8Lv589YnRh58N5vm7NCAab7O6rqz6c7CpYJvEsrOKC0SkqRtQUCJEKTHqTK3 eYIYUNWhx4nXDNemcN6AnvBqWKn8hxOE6qmMs= Message-ID: <4759e5740810151427t554aa330y9db0e0eb219cb79a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:27:54 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <20081015113612.107630@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40857_31228305.1224106074412" References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <20081015113612.107630@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:27:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_40857_31228305.1224106074412 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A fellow musician colleague of mine mentioned that he has a 19.95 USD cable which will allow him to run all his firewire 400 stuff off an 800 bus. Might be worth a start in your research. Much better than waiting for the more expensive Audio Driver folks to come out with their FW 800 units. Bests, Todd On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > Buy an older model: > > http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html > Yeah, that's probably not a bad idea, esp. if processor is almost same. > > > I would not buy anything new that is marketed by "New design. New > features. > > New technologies. All engineered to standards that don't even exist yet." > (quoting Apple) > Haha:) I'd never buy any first revision hardware, anyway. I'd wait at least > for second revision. > > > I suggest you get a Windows XP license and use Apple's BootCamp to run > > it on the Mac! > > If I'd want to run WinXP - I wouldn't be complaining about the missing FW > and simply get a Lenovo. > I'm just overall very happy with the Mac OSX and would like to stick to the > platform. I'd like to stick to one platform only - that would be Mac for > me. > > > My experience so far is that for live processing of a live audio input > Windows works better > > Interesting. I'll have to see how things work out. > > best regards > Buzap > > > -- > GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! > Jetzt dabei sein: > http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx > > -- In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, Then on to California with Meredith Monk. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_40857_31228305.1224106074412 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
A fellow musician colleague of mine mentioned that he has a 19.95 USD cable which will allow him to run all his firewire 400 stuff off an 800 bus.  Might be worth a start in your research. Much better than waiting for the more expensive Audio Driver folks to come out with their FW 800 units. 

Bests,  

Todd


On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> Buy an older model:
> http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html
Yeah, that's probably not a bad idea, esp. if processor is almost same.

> I would not buy anything new that is marketed by "New design. New features.
> New technologies. All engineered to standards that don't even exist yet." (quoting Apple)
Haha:) I'd never buy any first revision hardware, anyway. I'd wait at least for second revision.

> I suggest you get a Windows XP license and use Apple's BootCamp to run
> it on the Mac!

If I'd want to run WinXP - I wouldn't be complaining about the missing FW and simply get a Lenovo.
I'm just overall very happy with the Mac OSX and would like to stick to the platform.  I'd like to stick to one platform only - that would be Mac for me.

> My experience so far is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works better

Interesting. I'll have to see how things work out.

best regards
Buzap


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------=_Part_40857_31228305.1224106074412-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 22:07:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFF953BF60; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:07:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=poHDb2V1PBaS4AjZh2+glZhUB2vezVBEx3pLz/e3NI4=; b=H0frS0cyoUzT1clfSDk7ClHJgWypalxANjvgf9+n4QqIV/c5OV62i1nQgjuqfy3bY/ nl2ow2/jyq0ASC0m2CDDQyeJ9Xs1nvekwUPkWDWK3ph/X3wYB2BjK5wjnR5jPl/Nv/cc fsIkdjto1fkO+XtkB8abiz10yWCzPN8Al8pYU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=esIYcodsyTY0qqH0xWdOiQlw1wwaQ5V1Yz9upQbAZz96go0FlsiBoPWgjRgD4J7n4r HU0cE6Cl/GZdMoenNHPZrFgUXawiYeO2bC8byDdaGQnaDMRLcpRz1ChuCKp0giiKgHzL Vdt7ELQAhZCcK4V/k4HgCHcluQ+AupCFX7Pm4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:07:45 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Greatest Cover Ever! In-Reply-To: <994A8D3E-3277-4FA5-A90B-53721B7626DC@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <994A8D3E-3277-4FA5-A90B-53721B7626DC@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:07:46 +0000 (UTC) ho! On 10/15/08, Chris Sewell wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 22:09:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F14BC3BF5C; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:09:45 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4759e5740810151427t554aa330y9db0e0eb219cb79a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081015220945.264020@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <20081015113612.107630@gmx.net> <4759e5740810151427t554aa330y9db0e0eb219cb79a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1848ZIf3FI4idpRD3uRWpuUjIcm4/vGz+RCK/nHKo +esOAOItSQiWv9ge8GNNDsJ4FWZ2QP7MesDg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: HlzFfEAvTXsuWtp/mmU5sRVCRzdyMsP6 X-FuHaFi: 0.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Todd, > A fellow musician colleague of mine mentioned that he has a 19.95 USD > cable > which will allow him to run all his firewire 400 stuff off an 800 bus. This only helps with the MacBookPros. They now only feature FW800. But this is not an option for me due to the form factor (minimum 15.4"). The more I think, the more I love my RC-50 ;-) It's just all these cables... best regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 22:33:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4EBF3BF61; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:33:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:subject:mime-version:date:references :x-mailer; bh=iL1gNBLGXfb6FizaOnsf54szWDuMt0tOjGZ1LtKiBVo=; b=mt6KKleeE+gq0zCK0uMDf5hYdWL8Re9BHyULsUX/gz2qxmouP5T+Cd1whI6yAzcieb P2IWEvRT9pKyACNu/6bLzA0+qucE6M4Tc7MPlI1aMOtAzvENNQM2F+1ExNF35yOiQEWr m3Yfa9+sAilbs8CmJZtOncCrDcLje+IPJjvMQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type:subject:mime-version :date:references:x-mailer; b=Wuu671IuKzsv8d1ekWYj0UA/D+Hav1fleU2Wz30DAXx8aqF4MikG+f+CqYkrurN3rn 5w/0oWYPukYw5bh5JlENI/TpjGjW1Hs+fdagImvQY09QIA43YKbIrVkt6ZzeKopdzV7W ydatMiU62nGutsup3j71KpOKHfP7Ca3OsgovQ= Message-Id: From: David Hayes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-989667532 Subject: Re: EDP Sync -- a partial solution and some oddities Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:33:23 -0700 References: <48EED66A.1090107@cruzio.com> <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:33:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-989667532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Really? Nobody's got advice for sync between an EDP and Live or Logic? On Oct 13, 2008, at 4:22 AM, David Hayes wrote: > > > (sorry for the repost... first dissapeared and forgot to change =20 > subject when recycling another email for the second...) > > Okay, the only way I can get this to work is: > > If I set the EDP to Timing-->Sync =3D In > 8th/Cycle =3D 8 > Quantize =3D CYC > > Midi --> ControlSource =3D OFF (If = =20 > I do not do this, keyboard presses on the Ozonic intended to be =20 > musical mess with the loop timing in weird ways, display flashes odd =20= > things.) > > Then I set Live (haven't gotten Logic to work yet) Midi Sync =20 > preferences / Midi Ports to Sync for Ozonic External (the exchoplex) =20= > but I turn both Track and Remote off in that same row (for good =20 > measure). I also make sure Ozonic External is not set up as a =20 > control surface in the section above. > > This allows me to press play in Live so I see it's sending out a =20 > midi sync signal, then start a part or two in Stylus RMX, then I can =20= > record a fairly tight loop of what's playing into the exchoplex, =20 > then stop the RMX plugin so it doesn't echo. > > After that I can proceed with looping as normal, changing tracks and =20= > sounds in Live and overdubbing. > > PROBLEMS / QUESTIONS: > > 1. Though there is some quantization going on to keep things in =20 > sync, I don't think it's always starting at the beginning of the =20 > phrase and I'm not sure how to set that... I tried 8th/chcle=3D8 and =20= > the 1/8 note option in the Live pull down menu, as well as the 1 Bar =20= > option. I'm guessing that's, like, an 8th note in 120 bpm that I'm =20 > seeing as a the single steady flash of Midi Sync out in Live... =20 > (took me a while to realize you have to hit play in live, not just =20 > have the plug in sounding)... are there other options besides this =20 > one constant signal tied to a fixed BPM that might suit working with =20= > the EDP? > > 2. It's interesting that it records a small bit of empty time when =20 > pressing play in Live but not the record button on the echoplex... =20 > seems to fill in the smallest quantized block of time??? Could this =20= > be related to the start point of the loop not being where I =20 > anticipate it should have been? > > 3. Sometimes if I try to overdub a new drum part it will sound in =20 > sync with what's already been recorded, but not nearly always. It's =20= > way hit or miss even if I haven't stopped the EDP or Live and I =20 > can't figure out why that might be, though I bet if I focus =20 > systematically I'll figure it out... point is though, I'd like to =20 > know how to lock it so I don't have to have some weird work flow to =20= > keep it working in true sync. It's not perfect by any means... echo =20= > effect over time, sometimes start a new RMX drum part and it's just =20= > off with what you recorded of the first two, etc. But sometimes it =20 > works well enough... weird. > > 5. I played with Sync =3D OUT on the EDP and In in Live... I forget =20= > what happened now, but a) does anybody think that's worth playing =20 > with more? Would there be some advantage I'm not thinking of? I =20 > figure if the EDP is in sink with the Live, then arpeggiations and =20= > delays applied should be in sync too, but that's the kind of thing =20 > I'm asking about. B) is there a way to get the best of both =20 > worlds... some sort of in AND out method/settings I might consider? =20= > So I could, say, start with a looped sound on the EDP and have that =20= > set the BPM in Live or some such? > > 6. The EDP has a Sync =3D OU5 option that is not in the manual. What =20= > is that used for? > > > MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH THANKS FOR ANY THOUGHT, SUGGESTIONS, =20 > TROUBLESHOOTING QUESTIONS, ETC. > > Happy looping. > > > > > > > > > On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:26 PM, David Hayes wrote: >> >> Thank you... firstly glad to know it works... wasted time on it 10 =20= >> years ago, didn't want to repeat. >> >> Do you know how to set it up? EDP timing synch=3DIN (that from =20 >> memory, it's not in front of me) Anything else for the EDP? How do =20= >> I set up Logic or Live to send the signal out... I kind of already =20= >> did try this and nothing happens, so obviously I'm missing =20 >> something(s). >> >> Much thanks! >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Claude Voit wrote: >> >>> yes it syncs well if the daw spits out decent tight midiclock >>> why dont you try nobody has your own exact setup and way of =20 >>> looping anyway >>> >>> Claude >>> >>> >>> David Hayes a =E9crit : >>>> Perhaps my previous post was too wordy... >>>> Does anyone out there use the EDP synched with their computer/DAW/=20= >>>> drum-software midi clock? Does synch it work well? (Record =20 >>>> functions as expected, stays in synch over time etc?) >>>> The old Oberheim's didn't but I have a new one now. However I =20 >>>> haven't tried this in 8-10 years and years so I have no idea how =20= >>>> to set it up properly---what settings need to be made in Logic or =20= >>>> Ableton Live to use the Specrasonics Stylus RMX plug in for drums =20= >>>> (mainly) and yet have the EDP's record/overdub/nextloop functions =20= >>>> work as I normally expect them to. >>>> Much thanks for any advice on the best way to use Logic (or =20 >>>> Mainstage) or Ableton for the routing, effects and drums for use =20= >>>> with live EDP looping! >>> >> --Apple-Mail-2-989667532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Really? = Nobody's got advice for sync between an EDP and Live or = Logic?


On Oct 13, 2008, at 4:22 AM, = David Hayes wrote:



(sorry = for the repost... first dissapeared and forgot to change subject when = recycling another email for the = second...)

Okay, the only way I can get this = to work is:

If I set the EDP to = Timing-->Sync =3D In  
       =                     =                     =   8th/Cycle =3D 8
         =                     =                     = Quantize =3D CYC

       =                     =       Midi --> ControlSource =3D OFF    (If I = do not do this, keyboard presses on the Ozonic intended to be musical = mess with the loop timing in weird ways, display flashes odd = things.)

Then I set Live (haven't gotten Logic = to work yet) Midi Sync preferences / Midi Ports to Sync for Ozonic = External (the exchoplex) but I turn both Track and Remote off in that = same row (for good measure). I also make sure Ozonic External is not set = up as a control surface in the section = above. 

This allows me to press play in = Live so I see it's sending out a midi sync signal, then start a part or = two in Stylus RMX, then I can record a fairly tight loop of what's = playing into the exchoplex, then stop the RMX plugin so it doesn't = echo. 

After that I can = proceed with looping as normal, changing tracks and sounds in Live and = overdubbing.

PROBLEMS / = QUESTIONS:

1. Though there is = some quantization going on to keep things in sync, I don't think it's = always starting at the beginning of the phrase and I'm not sure how to = set that... I tried 8th/chcle=3D8 and the 1/8 note option in the Live = pull down menu, as well as the 1 Bar option. I'm guessing that's, like, = an 8th note in 120 bpm that I'm seeing as a the single steady flash of = Midi Sync out in Live... (took me a while to realize you have to hit = play in live, not just have the plug in sounding)... are there other = options besides this one constant signal tied to a fixed BPM that might = suit working with the EDP? 

2. It's = interesting that it records a small bit of empty time when pressing play = in Live but not the record button on the echoplex... seems to fill in = the smallest quantized block of time??? Could this be related to the = start point of the loop not being where I anticipate it should have = been?

3. Sometimes if I try to overdub a = new drum part it will sound in sync with what's already been recorded, = but not nearly always. It's way hit or miss even if I haven't stopped = the EDP or Live and I can't figure out why that might be, though I bet = if I focus systematically I'll figure it out... point is though, I'd = like to know how to lock it so I don't have to have some weird work flow = to keep it working in true sync.  It's not perfect by any means... = echo effect over time, sometimes start a new RMX drum part and it's just = off with what you recorded of the first two, etc. But sometimes it works = well enough... weird.

5. I played with = Sync =3D OUT on the EDP and In in Live... I forget what happened now, = but a) does anybody think that's worth playing with more? Would there be = some advantage I'm not thinking of? I figure if the EDP is in sink with = the Live, then arpeggiations  and delays applied should = be in sync too, but that's the kind of thing I'm asking about. B) is = there a way to get the best of both worlds... some sort of in AND out = method/settings I might consider? So I could, say, start with a looped = sound on the EDP and have that set the BPM in Live or some = such?

6. The EDP has a Sync =3D OU5 = option that is not in the manual. What is that used = for?


MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH = THANKS FOR ANY THOUGHT, SUGGESTIONS, TROUBLESHOOTING QUESTIONS, = ETC. 

Happy = looping. 




=




On Sep = 27, 2008, at 2:26 PM, David Hayes wrote:

Thank you... firstly glad to know it works... = wasted time on it 10 years ago, didn't want to repeat.

Do you = know how to set it up? EDP timing synch=3DIN (that from memory, it's not = in front of me) Anything else for the EDP? How do I set up Logic or Live = to send the signal out... I kind of already did try this and nothing = happens, so obviously I'm missing something(s).

Much = thanks!




On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Claude Voit = wrote:

yes it syncs well if the daw = spits out decent tight midiclock
why dont you try nobody has your own exact setup and way = of looping anyway

Claude


David Hayes a = =E9crit :
Perhaps my previous post was too = wordy...
Does anyone out there use the = EDP synched with their computer/DAW/drum-software midi clock? Does synch = it work well? (Record functions as expected, stays in synch over time = etc?)
The old Oberheim's didn't but I have a new one now. = However I haven't tried this in 8-10 years and years so I have no idea = how to set it up properly---what settings need to be made in Logic or = Ableton Live to use the Specrasonics Stylus RMX plug in for drums = (mainly) and yet have the EDP's record/overdub/nextloop functions work = as I normally expect them to.
Much thanks for any advice on = the best way to use Logic (or Mainstage) or Ableton for the routing, = effects and drums for use with live EDP = looping!



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--OptionalMessageBody-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 23:27:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 439C73BF58; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=iDeS/M0A8v2kaKZstglukUit/ywrTUNQGh7MWMAbu4UnmzJcMuJbqqLUF4xrmLuo/X93JJqbE3O8VWwGLcLG2ZPa0BgDnI7S6bWPv5VGk6ecJXYIEoc7nbGS2edKXteVewASkSkyzTsZHGpZ6Ngy/g6XVZPNGX5OVrcVgM7Crvo=; X-YMail-OSG: XdeUoxYVM1ky2hXK2fYn1veK_XnTpC1KI2.hGonEFKVzuGKTym6RUC5o3MVTZnzpu234zWGskWekBG8yk8pvHWvJT.hVSrxDgJqo33wD4XwLkqrnuoOFDYvTFcEbzr2ecR9oDoPj6g__U4O7APSNUryLow-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:27:45 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Reply-To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-331858681-1224113265=:66528" Message-ID: <49125.66528.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:27:46 +0000 (UTC) --0-331858681-1224113265=:66528 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, if Eberhard's here, I'll gladly and happily prostrate before him. I've had his cd Pendulum for some time and it's great stuff. 'course, he's = using a 5-string so that's cheating! ;-)=A0 Not sure how or what he used to= loop back then in '93.=A0 IIRC, there are some long loops in there with hi= m soloing over top. I've probably got him playing on a few other cd's - I've got a mess of a Bi= ll Frisell era ECM recordings that I'm sure he must be on... Ted. Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Travis Hartnett wrote: From: Travis Hartnett Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:07 PM Well, since Eberhard's not on LD, sounds like there's still only two loopin= g double-bassists on the list. TH On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Charles Hussein Zwicky wrote: Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at least two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous ensemble work he's produced since the mid 1970s.... =A0 Hi, Todd.=A0 We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak up! =0A=0A=0A --0-331858681-1224113265=:66528 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hey, if Eberhard's here, I'll gladly and happily prostrate before him.

I've had his cd Pendulum for some time and it's great stuff. 'course, he's using a 5-string so that's cheating! ;-)  Not sure how or what he used to loop back then in '93.  IIRC, there are some long loops in there with him soloing over top.

I've probably got him playing on a few other cd's - I've got a mess of a Bill Frisell era ECM recordings that I'm sure he must be on...


Ted.
Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog

--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Looping upright bass?
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:07 PM

Well, since Eberhard's not on LD, sounds like there's still only two looping double-bassists on the list.

TH



On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Charles Hussein Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
Sorry to disappoint you guys, but Eberhard Weber has produced at least two records of his solo looping, in addition to the tremendous ensemble work he's produced since the mid 1970s....


 
Hi, Todd.  We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so thought I should speak up!


--0-331858681-1224113265=:66528-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 15 23:39:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 484B53BF63; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:39:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6B43137AAC8A46F6B3343B8130C37853@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <994A8D3E-3277-4FA5-A90B-53721B7626DC@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Greatest Cover Ever! Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:39:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <-BWViD.A.mRB.y8n9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:39:30 +0000 (UTC) I love it when people use acoustic - but this overcomes the physical discomfort ordinarily caused by the song that's being covered. :) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAg5KjnAhuU > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 05:52:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD2423BF64; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4778 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:52:45 UTC Message-Id: <85CEF781-6841-45EE-A4FE-B7B1C65C2584@glasswing.com> From: RICHARD SALES To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1011247609 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:33:03 -0700 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: <1zBRPB.A.8HH.tat9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:52:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1011247609 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Slightly relevant and for the record, I just bought a Pro Tools HD3 (192 I/Os) and the guy selling told me that Firewire 400 is the standard - regardless of track count. That is, if you're taking projects to different studios 400 is the way to go. I'm an old school Flintstone fast wide SCSI man so my experience is limited but so far no sign of bottleneck, latency or any of that. I hear the limitation is HD disc speed rather than FW speed. RICHARD SALES www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Oct 15, 2008, at 2:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> Hi folks >> >> now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: >> For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. >> Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! >> >> Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? > > > Buy an older model: > http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html > > The new MacBooks (2.0 or 2.4 GHz) feature a 1066 MHz frontside bus in > contrast to the MacBook White's (2.1 Ghz) 800 MHz fontside bus. Both > Intel Core 2 Duo processors with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running > 1:1 with processor speed. I use the old 2.2 GHz MacBook White and find > it fully sufficient. I would think different though if I was up to > making multi track recordings, as when recording twenty mic inputs at > one go. But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800. > > >> I would be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it >> had firewire, but there is none. > > Same solution available here: get the older model. Personally I would > not buy anything new that is marketed by "New design. New features. > New technologies. All engineered to standards that don't even exist > yet." (quoting Apple) > > >> I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic >> and now (finally :-) >> with Moebius on Mac. > > I suggest you get a Windows XP license and use Apple's BootCamp to run > it on the Mac! > > I've just been around doing a bunch of gigs with Mobius VST/Windows > (on the MacBook) and I think a small miracle would be needed to get > the same performance power into the Mac version. My experience so far > is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works better > (meaning zero tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio artifacts). > Then I have been a pro user of Mac since the early nineties and I do > prefer Mac OS X for everything else ;-) > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > RICHARD SALES www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-2-1011247609 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Slightly relevant and for the = record, I just bought a Pro Tools HD3 (192 I/Os) and the guy selling = told me that Firewire 400 is the standard - regardless of track count. =  That is, if you're taking projects to different studios 400 is the = way to go. I'm an old school Flintstone fast wide SCSI man so my = experience is limited but so far no sign of bottleneck, latency or any = of that. 

I hear the limitation is HD disc speed = rather than FW speed.

RICHARD = SALES
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=
On Oct 15, 2008, at = 2:15 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

On = Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
Hi folks

now, this is = really off topic, but I wanted to let off some = steam:
For a laptop setup, I = was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, it is there and: it = has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!!

Obviously, for = looping this really sucks. Now, what to do?


Buy = an older model:
http://www.apple.co= m/macbook/white/specs.html

The new MacBooks (2.0 or 2.4 GHz) = feature a 1066 MHz frontside bus in
contrast to the MacBook White's = (2.1 Ghz) 800 MHz fontside bus. Both
Intel Core 2 Duo processors with = 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running
1:1 with processor speed. I use = the old 2.2 GHz MacBook White and find
it fully sufficient. I would = think different though if I was up to
making multi track recordings, = as when recording twenty mic inputs at
one go. But for everything = else FW 400 is as good as FW 800.


I = would be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had = firewire, but there is none.

Same solution available = here: get the older model. Personally I would
not buy anything new = that is marketed by "New design. New features.
New technologies. All = engineered to standards that don't even exist
yet." (quoting = Apple)


I was really getting = comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic and now (finally = :-)
with Moebius on = Mac.

I suggest you get a Windows XP license and use = Apple's BootCamp to run
it on the Mac!

I've just been around = doing a bunch of gigs with Mobius VST/Windows
(on the MacBook) and I = think a small miracle would be needed to get
the same performance = power into the Mac version. My experience so far
is that for live = processing of a live audio input Windows works better
(meaning zero = tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio artifacts).
Then I have = been a pro user of Mac since the early nineties and I do
prefer Mac = OS X for everything else  ;-)

--
Greetings from = Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com = (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com

=
RICHARD SALES
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=



=

= --Apple-Mail-2-1011247609-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 06:30:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17C433BF65; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: EDP reprograms itself tonight Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 01:30:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C92F2E.C3FB57C0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <85CEF781-6841-45EE-A4FE-B7B1C65C2584@glasswing.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckvU2pcZ6HeKv+QRZuAIlkF4q2c8QAAy4vw Message-Id: <20081016063030.BB2FD3BF62@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:30:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C92F2E.C3FB57C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I mentioned a few weeks back that my EDP had acted with a 'mind of its own'-tonight, it outdid itself in a massive reprogramming that had me scrambling for any commands that would work during my first 15 minutes onstage. Basically, Record worked; then End Record would automatically activate Overdub with the red light NOT coming on. To stop Overdub, I tapped the pedal and the light turned on, but overdubbing stopped. I assume this is a mode in the manual. I've always used a manual Overdub, not automatic. I didn't know it was possible to overdub with the red light off. However, feedback was not controllable via the expression pedal, which had no effect whatsoever. And since my feedback knob (which hasn't been touched in years) was somewhere less than 100%, my basic loops faded out right away while uncommanded overdubs ruled the song. I managed to get the feedback knob back up, ending the degradation of loops, and once I figured out the overdub red-light strategy, all seemed doable, at least. Until I tried to multiply. It showed the light, ran two or three multiples, then played back only the first loop with nothing overdubbed and no multiples. So-no three-segment arrangements tonight. However, and frustratingly, the undo button (which has been my main problem lately) worked like it was brand new. Needless to say, the unit and instructions manual are spread out in my living room, ready for an all-night brainwashing session. OPERATOR = CONFUSION. dave ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C92F2E.C3FB57C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I mentioned a few weeks back that = my EDP had acted with a ‘mind of its own’—tonight, it outdid = itself in a massive reprogramming that had me scrambling for any commands that = would work during my first 15 minutes onstage.  =

 

Basically, Record worked; then = End Record would automatically activate Overdub with the red light NOT coming = on.  To stop Overdub, I tapped the pedal and the light turned on, but = overdubbing stopped.  I assume this is a mode in the manual.  I’ve = always used a manual Overdub, not automatic.  I didn’t know it was = possible to overdub with the red light off.

 

However, feedback was not = controllable via the expression pedal, which had no effect whatsoever.  And since my feedback knob (which hasn’t been touched in years) was somewhere = less than 100%, my basic loops faded out right away while uncommanded overdubs = ruled the song.  I managed to get the feedback knob back up, ending the = degradation of loops, and once I figured out the overdub red-light strategy, all = seemed doable, at least.

 

Until I tried to multiply.  = It showed the light, ran two or three multiples, then played back only the first = loop with nothing overdubbed and no multiples.  So—no = three-segment arrangements tonight…

 

However, and frustratingly, the = undo button (which has been my main problem lately) worked like it was brand = new.

 

Needless to say, the unit and = instructions manual are spread out in my living room, ready for an all-night = brainwashing session.  OPERATOR =3D CONFUSION.

 

dave

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C92F2E.C3FB57C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 06:41:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FC693BF69; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jpUKrGErdmZvCkVuy2iAB/cDu/GcetHLZu1zPgSXVCo=; b=nJS1USH5dUd3RtiI5zEVLePbezenk6IKQrTw/TLKjvsCA0RyNAX9X3YukT2KYQ/sn6 HJHz/dCP99upEvw3S709NMvr6MsOi45MNkmmsUNfrvIXHNXrvsobEN44NeAck0BJN1ZX 2pqcyUKt7iRjZImJ/fKpeDtEIrxTnUf2zFTfc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XrAWcmXRn6vSOkQRnZz9nxOKnFWRWOk6Zce1CmMDBZDL/Ky2sELZgNyGM0UiUgDFov +1KLmiz/EHZTTXm2EP4Y2qztRiif5mPGCW21SairZK/eYPXBEgvZy5Ihe5WoyXgv8gLB bTX3H7dYr174QrOSpg1TYpGILczRRQjpuDjM0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:41:53 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP reprograms itself tonight In-Reply-To: <20081016063030.BB2FD3BF62@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40861_21738144.1224139313932" References: <85CEF781-6841-45EE-A4FE-B7B1C65C2584@glasswing.com> <20081016063030.BB2FD3BF62@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:41:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_40861_21738144.1224139313932 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Did you have an EFC-7 hooked up by chance? Does it act this way if you hav= e no foot controller and just use the front panel buttons? TH On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Dave Gallaher wrote: > I mentioned a few weeks back that my EDP had acted with a 'mind of its > own'=97tonight, it outdid itself in a massive reprogramming that had me > scrambling for any commands that would work during my first 15 minutes > onstage. > > [nightmare gig scenario follows] > ------=_Part_40861_21738144.1224139313932 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Did you have an EFC-7 hooked up by chance?  Does it a= ct this way if you have no foot controller and just use the front panel but= tons?

TH

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1= 1:30 PM, Dave Gallaher <micdave@hiwaay.net> wrote:

I mentioned a few weeks back that my EDP had acted with a 'mind of its own'=97tonight, it outdid itself in a massive reprogramming that had me scrambling for any commands that wou= ld work during my first 15 minutes onstage. 

 [nightmare gig scenario follows]
=


------=_Part_40861_21738144.1224139313932-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 07:43:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22AFE3BF6D; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:43:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 93214879/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.156.11/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.156.11 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvIAACeN9khPTpwL/2dsb2JhbAAIwWKBbIM8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,422,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="93214879" Message-ID: <48F6F128.1040606@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:45:44 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP reprograms itself tonight References: <20081016063030.BB2FD3BF62@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20081016063030.BB2FD3BF62@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <41zXBB.A.YEG.7Cv9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:43:56 +0000 (UTC) somehow you managed to change to Delay Mode the parameter is called LoopDelay=DEL on older machines don't know if that name got changed for later models, but it's the parameter at the bottom left on the grid (or did the EDP manage that on it's own? it's hard to tell sometimes) andy butler Dave Gallaher wrote: > I mentioned a few weeks back that my EDP had acted with a ‘mind of its > own’—tonight, it outdid itself in a massive reprogramming that had me > scrambling for any commands that would work during my first 15 minutes > onstage. > > > > Basically, Record worked; then End Record would automatically activate > Overdub with the red light NOT coming on. To stop Overdub, I tapped the > pedal and the light turned on, but overdubbing stopped. I assume this > is a mode in the manual. I’ve always used a manual Overdub, not > automatic. I didn’t know it was possible to overdub with the red light off. > > > > However, feedback was not controllable via the expression pedal, which > had no effect whatsoever. And since my feedback knob (which hasn’t been > touched in years) was somewhere less than 100%, my basic loops faded out > right away while uncommanded overdubs ruled the song. I managed to get > the feedback knob back up, ending the degradation of loops, and once I > figured out the overdub red-light strategy, all seemed doable, at least. > > > > Until I tried to multiply. It showed the light, ran two or three > multiples, then played back only the first loop with nothing overdubbed > and no multiples. So—no three-segment arrangements tonight… > > > > However, and frustratingly, the undo button (which has been my main > problem lately) worked like it was brand new. > > > > Needless to say, the unit and instructions manual are spread out in my > living room, ready for an all-night brainwashing session. OPERATOR = > CONFUSION. > > > > dave > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 08:18:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8084A3BF6E; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: EDP reprograms itself tonight Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:18:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <48F6F128.1040606@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckvYvH9AqY79OV7TMqnszPSuhAFiwABH+5g Message-Id: <20081016081859.273683BF65@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:18:59 +0000 (UTC) Travis--Yes, I've used an EFC-7 since buying the unit. Andy--Thanks for pointing that out. I'm going to start from scratch and reprogram all my settings, hoping that the Undo feature will restore itself to its excellent old ways. Yes--it somehow reprogrammed itself. I followed my normal protocol--push all EFC-7 buttons a number of times to get them ready; power up; go. This time, it was all different. Thanks for replies... dave somehow you managed to change to Delay Mode the parameter is called LoopDelay=DEL on older machines don't know if that name got changed for later models, but it's the parameter at the bottom left on the grid (or did the EDP manage that on it's own? it's hard to tell sometimes) andy butler Dave Gallaher wrote: > I mentioned a few weeks back that my EDP had acted with a 'mind of its > own'-tonight, it outdid itself in a massive reprogramming that had me > scrambling for any commands that would work during my first 15 minutes > onstage. > > > > Basically, Record worked; then End Record would automatically activate > Overdub with the red light NOT coming on. To stop Overdub, I tapped the > pedal and the light turned on, but overdubbing stopped. I assume this > is a mode in the manual. I've always used a manual Overdub, not > automatic. I didn't know it was possible to overdub with the red light off. > > > > However, feedback was not controllable via the expression pedal, which > had no effect whatsoever. And since my feedback knob (which hasn't been > touched in years) was somewhere less than 100%, my basic loops faded out > right away while uncommanded overdubs ruled the song. I managed to get > the feedback knob back up, ending the degradation of loops, and once I > figured out the overdub red-light strategy, all seemed doable, at least. > > > > Until I tried to multiply. It showed the light, ran two or three > multiples, then played back only the first loop with nothing overdubbed > and no multiples. So-no three-segment arrangements tonight. > > > > However, and frustratingly, the undo button (which has been my main > problem lately) worked like it was brand new. > > > > Needless to say, the unit and instructions manual are spread out in my > living room, ready for an all-night brainwashing session. OPERATOR = > CONFUSION. > > > > dave > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 10:42:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AA113BF68; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:43:43 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <48F71ADF.7080708@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: <0N1Y2D.A.P9H.Jqx9IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:42:17 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 11:29:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6FE43BF6F; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 70920191 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C92F82.6CF94223" Subject: RE: Zoom H2 hack (was: Portable recording device) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:29:17 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1016338FC@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <3599F8291A764E1DBFB4EA7449F46A1C@bobdell> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Zoom H2 hack (was: Portable recording device) Thread-Index: Ackvgmys2/asL/veQXSt4GsOfQBa/A== References: <3599F8291A764E1DBFB4EA7449F46A1C@bobdell> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: "Loopers Delight" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2008 11:29:18.0237 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D46A4D0:01C92F82] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:29:19 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C92F82.6CF94223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> Sure is an ugly hack using the parts that he used. I wonder if there are better connectors and switches to use. << =20 agreed..... we must give him credit for trying, though. I'm sure, with my 1/2-decent soldering chops, that I could get at the signal path /after/ the pre-amps & simply add two 3.5mm jacks for the two stereo line inputs. I'll have a look later. =20 (I did something conceptually similar to add an effects loop to my fender cyber-champ; surface-mount components are very delicate! but anyone who's tackled the low-noise mod on the repeater or mended a walkman ought to be able to manage this) =20 his other mod- the first part of it, at least- also looks useful.... improving the separation between the onboard mics discreetly has some appeal, but I'm not so sure about his contention that the second part of his mod "looks good".... :-) =20 duncan. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). 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 >> Sure is an ugly hack using the p= arts=20 that he used.  I wonder if there are better connectors and switches to=20 use. <<
 
agreed..... we must give him credit for trying, though. I'm sure, = with my=20 1/2-decent soldering chops, that I could get at the signal path /after/ the=20 pre-amps & simply add two 3.5mm jacks for the two stereo line inpu= ts.=20 I'll have a look later.
 
(I did something conceptually sim= ilar to=20 add an effects loop to my fender cyber-champ; surface-mount components are = very=20 delicate! but anyone who's tackled the low-noise mod on the repeater or men= ded a=20 walkman ought to be able to manage this)
 
his other mod- the first part of it, at least- also looks useful..= ..=20 improving the separation between the onboard mics discreetly has some appea= l, but=20 I'm not so sure about his contention that the second part of his mod "looks=20 good".... :-)
 
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C92F82.6CF94223-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 11:41:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF5723BF70; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 92780718/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.156.11/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.156.11 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkgBAO/E9khPTpwL/2dsb2JhbAAIwzqDbIM8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,422,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="92780718" Message-ID: <48F728DD.5020300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:43:25 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP Sync -- a partial solution and some oddities References: <48EED66A.1090107@cruzio.com> <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:41:36 +0000 (UTC) David Hayes wrote: > > Really? Nobody's got advice for sync between an EDP and Live or Logic? I guess that most people running Live/Logic would use software looping.... and it's quite a lot of reading to find out what your question is ;-) I'll try to see if I can help any, but I don't know Live or Logic. > > > On Oct 13, 2008, at 4:22 AM, David Hayes wrote: > >> >> >> (sorry for the repost... first dissapeared and forgot to change >> subject when recycling another email for the second...) >> >> *Okay, the only way I can get this to work is:* >> >> If I set the EDP to Timing-->*Sync = In * >> 8th/Cycle = 8 >> Quantize = CYC >> >> Midi --> ControlSource = OFF (If I >> do not do this, keyboard presses on the Ozonic intended to be musical >> mess with the loop timing in weird ways, display flashes odd things.) >> >> Then I set Live (haven't gotten Logic to work yet) Midi Sync >> preferences / Midi Ports to Sync for Ozonic External (the exchoplex) >> but I turn both Track and Remote off in that same row (for good >> measure). I also make sure Ozonic External is not set up as a control >> surface in the section above. >> >> *This allows me to press play in Live so I see it's sending out a midi >> sync signal, then start a part or two in Stylus RMX, then I can record >> a fairly tight loop of what's playing into the exchoplex, then stop >> the RMX plugin so it doesn't echo. * >> * >> * >> *After that I can proceed with looping as normal, changing tracks and >> sounds in Live and overdubbing.* >> >> /PROBLEMS / QUESTIONS:/ >> >> *1.* Though there is some quantization going on to keep things in >> sync, I don't think it's always starting at the beginning of the ? Quantise isn't needed for sync >> phrase and I'm not sure how to set that... I tried 8th/chcle=8 and the >> 1/8 note option in the Live pull down menu, as well as the 1 Bar >> option. I'm guessing that's, like, an 8th note in 120 bpm that I'm >> seeing as a the single steady flash of Midi Sync out in Live... (took >> me a while to realize you have to hit play in live, not just have the >> plug in sounding)... are there other options besides this one constant >> signal tied to a fixed BPM that might suit working with the EDP? depends on the musical result you intend, but I would always use the EDP as master for timing >> >> *2. *It's interesting that it records a small bit of empty time when >> pressing play in Live but not the record button on the echoplex... >> seems to fill in the smallest quantized block of time??? Could this be >> related to the start point of the loop not being where I anticipate it >> should have been? try Quantise=Off, if that fixes it, then the answer is "yes" >> >> *3.* Sometimes if I try to overdub a new drum part it will sound in >> sync with what's already been recorded, but not nearly always. it's possible to be in Sync but not be in time, sync just means that the timing doesn't drift over many repeats. >> It's >> way hit or miss even if I haven't stopped the EDP or Live and I can't >> figure out why that might be, though I bet if I focus systematically >> I'll figure it out... point is though, I'd like to know how to lock it >> so I don't have to have some weird work flow to keep it working in >> true sync. It's not perfect by any means... echo effect over time, >> sometimes start a new RMX drum part and it's just off with what you >> recorded of the first two, etc. But sometimes it works well enough... >> weird. >> >> *5.* I played with Sync = OUT on the EDP and In in Live... I forget >> what happened now, but a) does anybody think that's worth playing with >> more? Would there be some advantage I'm not thinking of? I figure if >> the EDP is in sink with the Live, then arpeggiations and delays >> applied should be in sync too, but that's the kind of thing I'm asking >> about. B) is there a way to get the best of both worlds... some sort >> of in AND out method/settings I might consider? So I could, say, start >> with a looped sound on the EDP and have that set the BPM in Live or >> some such? You'd have to ask a "Live" expert if it would sync to external midi. Really it depends on your musical style, the EDP is well suited to getting the tempo from the player, Live is suited to "mechanical" timing, so it's no surprise that's it takes a bit of effort to make them work together. >> >> *6.* The EDP has a Sync = OU5 option that is not in the manual. What >> is that used for? sends midi Stop/Start commands >> >> >> *MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH THANKS FOR ANY THOUGHT, SUGGESTIONS, >> TROUBLESHOOTING QUESTIONS, ETC. * you're very welcome (just in case this helps at all) andy butler ps maybe try one short question at a time if you want a quick answer from the list ;-) >> >> Happy looping. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:26 PM, David Hayes wrote: >>> >>> Thank you... firstly glad to know it works... wasted time on it 10 >>> years ago, didn't want to repeat. >>> >>> Do you know how to set it up? EDP timing synch=IN (that from memory, >>> it's not in front of me) Anything else for the EDP? How do I set up >>> Logic or Live to send the signal out... I kind of already did try >>> this and nothing happens, so obviously I'm missing something(s). >>> >>> Much thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 27, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Claude Voit wrote: >>> >>>> yes it syncs well if the daw spits out decent tight midiclock >>>> why dont you try nobody has your own exact setup and way of looping >>>> anyway >>>> >>>> Claude >>>> >>>> >>>> David Hayes a écrit : >>>>> Perhaps my previous post was too wordy... >>>>> Does anyone out there use the EDP synched with their >>>>> computer/DAW/drum-software midi clock? Does synch it work well? >>>>> (Record functions as expected, stays in synch over time etc?) >>>>> The old Oberheim's didn't but I have a new one now. However I >>>>> haven't tried this in 8-10 years and years so I have no idea how to >>>>> set it up properly---what settings need to be made in Logic or >>>>> Ableton Live to use the Specrasonics Stylus RMX plug in for drums >>>>> (mainly) and yet have the EDP's record/overdub/nextloop functions >>>>> work as I normally expect them to. >>>>> Much thanks for any advice on the best way to use Logic (or >>>>> Mainstage) or Ableton for the routing, effects and drums for use >>>>> with live EDP looping! >>>> >>> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 13:50:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 068283BF1B; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F746B6.4030300@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:50:46 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: new Macbook =?ISO-8859-1?Q?w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:50:11 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >>Hi folks >> >>now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: >>For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! >> >>Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? > > > > Buy an older model: > http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html > > The new MacBooks (2.0 or 2.4 GHz) feature a 1066 MHz frontside bus in > contrast to the MacBook White's (2.1 Ghz) 800 MHz fontside bus. Both > Intel Core 2 Duo processors with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running > 1:1 with processor speed. I use the old 2.2 GHz MacBook White and find > it fully sufficient. I would think different though if I was up to > making multi track recordings, as when recording twenty mic inputs at > one go. But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800. I'm thinking.. on the rec.auodio.pro NG we had a discussion about how many tracks can be run in parallel on fw400, don't remember the number, but decently many. Same with the number of simultaneous audio ifc's. IIRC, it's possible to obtain a fw800 switch with four fw400 ports on the other side. So buy a new Macbook Pro and such a switch, and connect an external 3½" fw400 drive + fw400 audio interfaces to that. For my own home studio uses, I may buy a Macbook and use fw400 for an external 3½" disk, and shop a pcmcia adapter for my RME Multiface. I do worry about not having enough ram for Logic and Reason and loaded soundfonts (percussion, keyboards and philharmonics instruments). > I've just been around doing a bunch of gigs with Mobius VST/Windows > (on the MacBook) and I think a small miracle would be needed to get > the same performance power into the Mac version. My experience so far > is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works better > (meaning zero tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio artifacts). > Then I have been a pro user of Mac since the early nineties and I do > prefer Mac OS X for everything else ;-) Interesting. Last October I attended a Logic Studio seminar, held by Erik Metall from Sweeden. He ran a pretty large multi-track studio arrangement in Logic on a Macbook, no hickups at all. Erik didn't loop at all, only played bass through this setup to demo building the sound, so of cause I can't evaluate how robust it is. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 14:10:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54B863BF29; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBOUUJAW4= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AW:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:10:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: <48F746B6.4030300@post.cybercity.dk> Thread-Index: Ackvlhy1HwCTp/kuSXGQh9mX24KKjQAAjuEA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Per, you wrote: > it fully sufficient. I would think different though if I was up to > making multi track recordings, as when recording twenty mic inputs at > one go. But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800. I'm a little bit curious about this bandwidth issue for firewire when used for digital audio. Now if I understand this correctly, one of the big plusses of FireWire over, say, USB2, is that it works extremely well (meaning: low overhead) for streams. Now if we assume you record twenty mic inputs, and if we furthermore assume you record them in 24/96, then simple math gives us a data rate of 20 (channels) * 96000 (samples per second) * 24 (bits per sample) = 44Mbit/s (rounded up). With a data rate of 400 MBit/s with FW400, this shouldn't be a problem? What am I missing here? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 14:10:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E83953BF28; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=bk2tDARLAIxX4lHdElyTWZBYHMxbMc/hqXjpPp3FO8M=; b=HLdFkzEqyvHDaeKSB2zwG6EDQzM0FOKcy6LXeJY6hl6J3iVUXrGK5vFvYKAJkwi/B/ gt5kpY8xEZtCUbmSfzvoY80qixAmA11Y1DfA/BolLXOWRh5X7A/+jSxXPkblIdiVZ4cL LJIYLOUHt33kSbCHJo8Gqr2/mtLIhhiXc4XQw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=r0bu1TYY8hFerhKWZ13nP+mzlv3U5S84R44qxjmCh1rmqM0G5kIPZ3wEOng2z+87s6 drhm7TShnbVvyfWlDmVbMzrdLVr6ToLRsqBrmhfF4q2zaaYLjnzyzrd0IAVZGxOS2ZXa n26/BJ+8wUyW/AaD3jqb/oWwyLBIcFa4Djlpc= Message-ID: <273db0d30810160710k784a2830vdd785a8a0a03ae88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:10:55 -0500 From: "Tony Scharf" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: SPAM: Electrix Repeater. OS2.0, Noise Mod MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Sorry about this being my first post, but a friend told me that I'd sell this thing immediately if I posted it here. the Repeater was modded by by Stephen Golovnin Vsyevolod. The description of the mod is here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/repeater/Repeater_noise_mod.pdf The repeater also has the 2.0 operating system installed, includes a Digitech FS300 w/cable and a couple of working CF cards (256mg and 32mb). I may have the manual for it, but Ill have to dig around for it. If anyone is interested, e-mail me privately. Asking $700.00 Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 14:16:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BF4C3BF29; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 89881717/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.156.11/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.156.11 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkgBANHo9khPTpwL/2dsb2JhbAAIw22DbIM8 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,423,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="89881717" Message-ID: <48F74D23.6080601@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:18:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: new Macbook =?ISO-8859-1?Q?w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <48F746B6.4030300@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <48F746B6.4030300@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:21 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen wrote: >> I've just been around doing a bunch of gigs with Mobius VST/Windows >> (on the MacBook) and I think a small miracle would be needed to get >> the same performance power into the Mac version. My experience so far >> is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works better >> (meaning zero tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio artifacts). >> Then I have been a pro user of Mac since the early nineties and I do >> prefer Mac OS X for everything else ;-) > van Sinn wrote: > Interesting. Last October I attended a Logic Studio seminar, held by > Erik Metall from Sweeden. He ran a pretty large multi-track studio > arrangement in Logic on a Macbook, no hickups at all. > Erik didn't loop at all, only played bass through this setup to demo > building the sound, so of cause I can't evaluate how robust it is. > ..but multi-track studios aren't the same type of stress on the system as live audio processing. I'd guess that the SRC used by mac audio to match the clock rate used by the application to that of the audio interface is responsible for the difference. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 14:29:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E623BEF0; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tk3totexUtQEitA2XPB3tiua/Tcbb9GFd1GdduVWy5k=; b=uV4OUgDt0tPvxPLitMENOp0ecJM4rf46Nebgg8CGoCsWE2Rx1yZcXif1N7Qctwgk7S JLS7z7qvbmiTBlx/rkYYvLlXgdh9NKEFDvmalYIGJV0gAbJSwxc2VuYhO6MQlhYMhtGy /NIyIZ9Qbb5wsrrIdx3brboCppcusrc2rQr6o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=UWaWyZoQrMA0qzKf9rkGHq8ESyTE3G2HOb1ddeyhr4T4TrjBYz8cXLihAEqj7aAJ/t a19JYTmubHl9Fem0hBltsUmcsTccPPCaPQBfJZ/w8do9hP19kgEQ3l9/ZLsMPDhnntGx /SVOlLVqdBy5Ifjnfli5ANKWRmcgXLfuIKj34= Message-ID: <588ce11d0810160729o6edf184fsdd1fb28733419be8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:29:03 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Can you help me evaluate 2 computers for live looping purposes In-Reply-To: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48EF9745.9000209@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:29:04 +0000 (UTC) Newegg has this Acer extensa on sale for $499 (with promo code EMCBABGAC--you might have to sign up for the newsletter to use it) Acer Extensa EX5630-4239 NoteBook Intel Pentium dual-core T3200(2.00GHz) 15.4" Wide XGA 3GB Memory 160GB HDD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115504&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL101608&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL101608-_-LaptopsNotebooks-_-L0D-_-34115504 Some Extensas come with an XP disc so you can downgrade from Vista for free, not sure about this one though. This seems to be the cheapest I've seen for a decent music worthy laptop. I've got a different Extensa that I'm real happy with. On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Tiger Direct just advertised this computer for a very low price. > > Would this be a safe bet for live looping using the new AURISIS virtual EDP > loop V software > and , say, Plogue Bidule? I'd swap WIN XP , Service Pack 3 out for the > VISTA > which I don't like, but I"m curious all you computer literate guys and gals > out there. > > I know that years ago, people preferred INTEL machines to AMDs but I know > that > much technology has ensued since then. > I'd appreciate your collective wisdom on this one. > Thanks, Rick Walker > > GATEWAY GT5662 Refurbished Desktop PC > AMD Phenom 9500 Quad Core 2.2GHz, 3 GB DDR2 RAM, 500 GB SATA2 HD, > DVDRW-Labelflash, ATI Radeon HD, 2400XT, 10/100 LAN, Windows Vista Home > Premium > > for $399 > > > while we're at it, how about this laptop that they also offered? I'd > only loop with this machine > and have no other apps or internet on it. > > HP 530 Notebook PC FH528AT- Intel Celeron M 530 1.73GHz, 802.11b/g WLAN, 1 > GB DDR2, 120 GB HDD, DL DVDRW, > 15.4" WXGA, Windows Vista > > for $469? > > > -- Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 15:01:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 461B73BEE1; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBOUUJAW4= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: OT: software for realtime MIDI processing (context-sensitive transforms) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:01:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: AckvoB/pD4RGTbZlQG6Yn8W5RpN8Ew== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, I got this question regarding some solution for realtime MIDI processing (context-sensitive transforms) on a computer system. The application: I got this MIDI drum pad (Roland Octapad II) to which I can connect a foot pedal which sends a hold controller signal. My computers run WinXP and I'd like to work with soft sampler standalone or in host platforms (e.g. Live or Cubase). Now I'd like to use that for a faux hihat pedal. Furthermore, I'd like to make use of left and right hand samples in my library. Specifically, I'd like to do the following transforms: * If the pedal is depressed, the note number coming from one specific trigger pad should be shifted to another note number * hits on the snares and toms should alternatingly trigger the left and right hand samples In Cubase, I was able to do the first thing using the logical input transformer, but not for the second one. Is there any (best free, but necessarily small) software solution which allows me to do that in real time? Can e.g. MIDI OX do that? Thanks, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 15:11:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3F103BEE4; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=l7EPbu4buCj0yXIm/LTLzx30yVP2PwZ9AHJKgkdCbrg=; b=bjW+4j4oaZMhJ4fp1JyDuDPrMv1NerRV7OSd/RNmuflbEUzZhC9RueYbx//lOZT11A MUFQwX3HyTFHsnczrwKR1Jn3bQ76Zj/jwIUs9IJvdJA/SuGS/hZCr3tAHVq29WkhFncI vZi2UnmXqz8C4eo+aZzgyKYHXJgADV8a2tID8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ZQllXNH0bPOeNtj4P2/07Pf0EyjBszgyMV4ElcVyaA4WUDf/htPMG5/oTwkUUG7eNT VRMsJ0gE+P2yoMgip4rtvVffTAvcQvRlE2lfnKSvEjtlAlE6HsuQuw0Bawb51YbgQzH4 mc8LVIZa6DsHfXAKc/xL+oI7CVcPEpXwptQuM= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810160811i62356ab2td2b090b87c4c7ca0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:11:10 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: GIG SPAM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Chinapainting begins a 5 show tour in California today. We have the following gigs... 10/16 Echo Curio, LA (echo park), 8pm 10/17 Saturation Fest/Pharoah's Den, Riverside, 8pm 10/18 m2 Wines, Lodi (Sacramento), 11am-4pm 10/19 Y2K8 Int'l Live Looping Festival, Santa Cruz, 8pm 10/20 SMF Music Series Java Lounge, Sacramento, 830pm Should you be near come see us. Jim www.chinapaintingmusic.com www. Myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 15:54:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC52E3BEC2; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F763D4.20408@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:55:00 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: OT: new Macbook =?ISO-8859-1?Q?w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=28?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Per, you wrote: > > >>it fully sufficient. I would think different though if I was up to >>making multi track recordings, as when recording twenty mic inputs at >>one go. But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800. > > > I'm a little bit curious about this bandwidth issue for firewire when used > for digital audio. Now if I understand this correctly, one of the big > plusses of FireWire over, say, USB2, is that it works extremely well > (meaning: low overhead) for streams. > > Now if we assume you record twenty mic inputs, and if we furthermore assume > you record them in 24/96, then simple math gives us a data rate of 20 > (channels) * 96000 (samples per second) * 24 (bits per sample) = 44Mbit/s > (rounded up). With a data rate of 400 MBit/s with FW400, this shouldn't be a > problem? What am I missing here? > > Rainer As far as I can briefly see - nothing more than maybe forgetting some protocol packet overhead. This was approx the same conclusion on the referred NG. Not wanting to start a discussion about sample rate, but.. Again, on rec.audio.pro, it was mostly agreed that sample rates above 44.1 or 48 doesn't yield anything, other than you her the drive more ;) I'll look for a link to that discussion.. Personally, I choose 48 Khz over 44.1 Khz for reasons that outboard gear often use this clockrate, so interfacing/wordclock is easier, and reportedly some plugins have issues with either slow/fast sample rate. At these sample rates the math looks even nicer, so even if adding a few overlooked speed/protocol issues, I'd say the ability to handle enough simultaneous channels for at least a minor/home studio should be enough - provided the maybe missing link is in place: that the actual interfaces and drivers works as intended per the firewire specs, and the PC/Mac interface sits in a well-designed chipset on a good mobo. I guess everyone knows about inadequite/crappy interfaces/drivers.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 16:25:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCB363BECD; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBOUUJAW4= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AW:_AW:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:25:52 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: <48F763D4.20408@post.cybercity.dk> Thread-Index: Ackvp3lsJSyFl4RvRC2kIQPowqawHwAA2QKQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:25:49 +0000 (UTC) > Not wanting to start a discussion about sample rate, but.. > Again, on rec.audio.pro, it was mostly agreed that sample rates above > 44.1 or 48 doesn't yield anything, other than you her the > drive more ;) I'll look for a link to that discussion.. Well, you just started it ;) Without wanting to go into too much detail here, I'd like to point out a few items regarding sample rates here: As you (most probably) all know, the human ear can only hear up to about 16kHz (depending a lot on age and possible abuse), with some people able to hear up to about 20kHz (and I don't want to discuss precise values here, so if these values are in your opinion not correct, this will not affect the text about to follow...). However, these values rely to stimuli with sine waves. Other experiments however lead to the conclusions that: 1. the human ear can hear and discern properties in transients which correspond to fourier transforms of above 20kHz 2. the human ear can detect phase relationships on a scale smaller than 1/20kHz in the time domain What do we need this for? (1) is used a lot for defining the characteristics of the sound. (2) is vitally important in directional hearing. Furthermore, we got the issue with the anti-aliasing filters, which due to their nature are NOT brickwalls at the Nyquist frequency (in case of a CD 22.05kHz). So taking all of that into consideration, I can see (not that I actually did listening tests here) that it may very well be possible that there is an advantage of 96kHz over 48kHz - other than loading my computer. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 17:34:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B56C3BE90; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=iFv0BZAO2swJV1ivxOu9NLcnDeaXJ0YEw9dfPUmgiC4=; b=B4KFbOXKOQiIkYs3WCImergJpqtnLAPyggl7MiiIneEYgHrH62DPtmKUpQ9GRld5Ka t7VZxuT+81akPs/YD5qMG6UYObXPK13pdkot6mH4bK8Ah4N1+qDZuhWQGBc3BMxpfebb Ir7g9DTvFFiAyTAkPlUcYhiRyMKSrTrwJLsQU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=vkgpKW9qiw5hFQvGzZElxgBoi/TT+P6Gc0kdRYKknL2kj8IW0x+zp9GjbUiHybtfz3 rDAbFvioGIJi8fsdTmXwWhHWRBHAmUTgXSUzTi+4dynJPmbI4z91+y9F0r0ZeuV/8wpf rFrXLFhOlNpzbnT47ZgIdFqILA1zXc3B7egQ4= Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b0810161034j51a03acdh9087e5627127a8c7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:34:44 -0400 From: "Loaf citious" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EFC-7 switches revisited.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_117089_5318930.1224178484046" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:34:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_117089_5318930.1224178484046 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to the LD, My EFC-7 has crapped out and while I'm getting adjusted to the Mobius FCB combo, I thought I'd do some research on the new switches I'd need to get the EDP back up and running again - I was just starting to have some serious fun! So, my question is this: Does anyone know where I can get some *metal *switches that look like the replacements over at mouser.com (www.mouser.com part # 10PA005). I've already seen this: http://www.britishaudioservice.com/parts/edp/1-efc7.jpg If I thought for a min I could wear shoes and play the EFC-7 w/ my Fred Flinstone feet, I'd be all over it. I like the way they look but, I don't think it's gonna work out. Any suggestions? I'm not completely concerned w/ the price, I figure I'm gonna have to pay for something that would suit my needs anyway. I got a heavy foot and do get to stomp on my FCB but, I'd love to have this lil guy working again in a way the felt reliable and gave me confidence. Thanks, Andy (G) ------=_Part_117089_5318930.1224178484046 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hello to the LD,
My EFC-7 has crapped out and while I'm getting adjusted to the Mobius FCB combo, I thought I'd do some
research on the new switches I'd need to get the EDP back up and running again - I was just starting to have
some serious fun!

So, my question is this:  Does anyone know where I can get some metal switches that look like the
replacements over at mouser.com (www.mouser.com part # 10PA005).

I've already seen this: http://www.britishaudioservice.com/parts/edp/1-efc7.jpg

If I thought for a min I could wear shoes and play the EFC-7 w/ my Fred Flinstone feet,
I'd be all over it. I like the way they look but, I don't think it's gonna work out.

Any suggestions? I'm not completely concerned w/ the price, I figure I'm gonna have to pay for
something that would suit my needs anyway.  I got a heavy foot and do get to stomp on my FCB
but, I'd love to have this lil guy working again in a way the felt reliable and gave me confidence.

Thanks,
Andy (G)

------=_Part_117089_5318930.1224178484046-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 18:10:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 882753BE8D; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F783DA.8000601@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:11:38 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: AW: OT: new Macbook =?ISO-8859-1?Q?w=EDthOUT_Firewire_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3A=28?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >>Not wanting to start a discussion about sample rate, but.. >>Again, on rec.audio.pro, it was mostly agreed that sample rates above >>44.1 or 48 doesn't yield anything, other than you her the >>drive more ;) I'll look for a link to that discussion.. > > > Well, you just started it ;) > > Without wanting to go into too much detail here, I'd like to point out a few > items regarding sample rates here: > > As you (most probably) all know, the human ear can only hear up to about > 16kHz (depending a lot on age and possible abuse), with some people able to > hear up to about 20kHz (and I don't want to discuss precise values here, so > if these values are in your opinion not correct, this will not affect the > text about to follow...). > However, these values rely to stimuli with sine waves. Other experiments > however lead to the conclusions that: > 1. the human ear can hear and discern properties in transients which > correspond to fourier transforms of above 20kHz > 2. the human ear can detect phase relationships on a scale smaller > than 1/20kHz in the time domain > > What do we need this for? (1) is used a lot for defining the characteristics > of the sound. (2) is vitally important in directional hearing. > > Furthermore, we got the issue with the anti-aliasing filters, which due to > their nature are NOT brickwalls at the Nyquist frequency (in case of a CD > 22.05kHz). > > So taking all of that into consideration, I can see (not that I actually did > listening tests here) that it may very well be possible that there is an > advantage of 96kHz over 48kHz - other than loading my computer. > > Rainer This is common belief, often debated and not holding water. That we under very ideal conditions might be able to detect freqs higher than 20Khz may be proven true, but AFAIK has never proven by experiments related to music, even not by blind tests on Golden Ear test subjects. I don't have links to docs derived in tightly controlled labs proving claims in either direction, which is often the case in such discussions. However, as most even halfways adults can hardly detect freqs above ~14 Khz, I find it mostly irrelevant for practical music production, even when using near state of art equipment. WRT the Shannon and Nyquist criteria, stating frequencies reproducable up to half the sampling rate, provided infinitely steep anti-aliasing filters are used, this used to be a big problem in older days when using analog filters, but is not the case with todays 64x oversampling and digital filters. I'm sure some will say 96 (or 192Khz) sounds much better, and wil not argue that. However, it was mathematically proven on rec.audio.pro the difference is hardly there. Further, certain interfaces actually does sound better/cleaner/whatever at higher sample rates, which is simply due to inadequate electronics desighns. Please note: I honestly didn't mean to start such a discussion, merely point out that if we assume 48Khz is enough, dealing with a more than decent numbers of track over firewire400 shouldn't be a problem. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 18:31:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AAB753BE8D; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:31:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <12B6C911-D48A-4C70-B0B5-E76FC6899C3F@glasswing.com> From: RICHARD SALES To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48F783DA.8000601@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-1061578254 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_AW:_AW:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=28?= Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:31:53 -0700 References: <48F783DA.8000601@post.cybercity.dk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: <5cmjs.A.qxE.di49IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:31:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-1061578254 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can we hear frequencies about 20kHz? A real revelation is the Earthworks mic demo CD where they have samples of their mic's that record the normal range and (their) mic's that record up to 50KHZ. You can a/b them. Now I'm not sure exactly WHAT I'm hearing, but without question the mic's that can range up to 50 kHz sound quite different. And these ears of mine have been just about as demolished as ears can get from many years standing in front of a Twin Reverb on max! Plus almost thirty years of general studio thunder. Is it the 50KHZ I'm hearing or something about the capsule? Don't know. But the CD is free from Earthworks - get it! - it's very puzzling. On the other hand, I DO record almost everything at 24/44.1 and it sounds just fine to me. RICHARD SALES www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Oct 16, 2008, at 11:11 AM, van Sinn wrote: > Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >>> Not wanting to start a discussion about sample rate, but.. >>> Again, on rec.audio.pro, it was mostly agreed that sample rates >>> above >>> 44.1 or 48 doesn't yield anything, other than you her the drive >>> more ;) I'll look for a link to that discussion.. >> Well, you just started it ;) >> Without wanting to go into too much detail here, I'd like to point >> out a few >> items regarding sample rates here: >> As you (most probably) all know, the human ear can only hear up to >> about >> 16kHz (depending a lot on age and possible abuse), with some people >> able to >> hear up to about 20kHz (and I don't want to discuss precise values >> here, so >> if these values are in your opinion not correct, this will not >> affect the >> text about to follow...). >> However, these values rely to stimuli with sine waves. Other >> experiments >> however lead to the conclusions that: >> 1. the human ear can hear and discern properties in transients which >> correspond to fourier transforms of above 20kHz >> 2. the human ear can detect phase relationships on a scale smaller >> than 1/20kHz in the time domain >> What do we need this for? (1) is used a lot for defining the >> characteristics >> of the sound. (2) is vitally important in directional hearing. >> Furthermore, we got the issue with the anti-aliasing filters, which >> due to >> their nature are NOT brickwalls at the Nyquist frequency (in case >> of a CD >> 22.05kHz). >> So taking all of that into consideration, I can see (not that I >> actually did >> listening tests here) that it may very well be possible that there >> is an >> advantage of 96kHz over 48kHz - other than loading my computer. >> Rainer > > This is common belief, often debated and not holding water. > That we under very ideal conditions might be able to detect freqs > higher than 20Khz may be proven true, but AFAIK has never proven by > experiments related to music, even not by blind tests on Golden Ear > test subjects. > I don't have links to docs derived in tightly controlled labs > proving claims in either direction, which is often the case in such > discussions. > However, as most even halfways adults can hardly detect freqs above > ~14 Khz, I find it mostly irrelevant for practical music production, > even when using near state of art equipment. > > WRT the Shannon and Nyquist criteria, stating frequencies > reproducable up to half the sampling rate, provided infinitely steep > anti-aliasing filters are used, this used to be a big problem in > older days when using analog filters, but is not the case with > todays 64x oversampling and digital filters. > > I'm sure some will say 96 (or 192Khz) sounds much better, and wil > not argue that. However, it was mathematically proven on > rec.audio.pro the difference is hardly there. Further, certain > interfaces actually does sound better/cleaner/whatever at higher > sample rates, which is simply due to inadequate electronics desighns. > > > Please note: I honestly didn't mean to start such a discussion, > merely point out that if we assume 48Khz is enough, dealing with a > more than decent numbers of track over firewire400 shouldn't be a > problem. > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > RICHARD SALES www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com --Apple-Mail-3-1061578254 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can we hear frequencies about = 20kHz? A real revelation is the Earthworks mic demo CD where they have = samples of their mic's that record the normal range and (their) mic's = that record up to 50KHZ.  You can a/b them.  Now I'm not sure = exactly WHAT I'm hearing, but without question the mic's that can range = up to 50 kHz sound quite different.  And these ears of mine have = been just about as demolished as ears can get from many years standing = in front of a Twin Reverb on max! Plus almost thirty years of general = studio thunder.

Is it the 50KHZ I'm hearing or = something about the capsule?  Don't know.  But the CD is free = from Earthworks - get it! -  it's very = puzzling.

On the other hand, I DO record almost = everything at 24/44.1 and it sounds just fine to = me.

RICHARD SALES
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=

On Oct 16, 2008, at 11:11 AM, van Sinn = wrote:

Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill = wrote:
Not = wanting to start a discussion about sample rate, = but..
Again, on rec.audio.pro, it was mostly agreed that sample = rates above
44.1 or 48 doesn't yield = anything, other than you her the drive more ;) I'll look for a link to = that discussion..
Well, you just started it ;)
Without wanting to go into too much detail here, I'd like = to point out a few
items = regarding sample rates here:
As = you (most probably) all know, the human ear can only hear up to = about
16kHz (depending a lot = on age and possible abuse), with some people able = to
hear up to about 20kHz (and = I don't want to discuss precise values here, = so
if these values are in your = opinion not correct, this will not affect = the
text about to = follow...).
However, these = values rely to stimuli with sine waves. Other = experiments
however lead to = the conclusions that:
1. the = human ear can hear and discern properties in transients = which
correspond to fourier = transforms of above 20kHz
2. the = human ear can detect phase relationships on a scale = smaller
than 1/20kHz in the = time domain
What do we need = this for? (1) is used a lot for defining the = characteristics
of the sound. = (2) is vitally important in directional = hearing.
Furthermore, we got = the issue with the anti-aliasing filters, which due = to
their nature are NOT = brickwalls at the Nyquist frequency (in case of a = CD
22.05kHz).
So = taking all of that into consideration, I can see (not that I actually = did
listening tests here) that = it may very well be possible that there is = an
advantage of 96kHz over = 48kHz - other than loading my computer.
= Rainer

This is common belief, often debated = and not holding water.
That we under very ideal conditions might be = able to detect freqs higher than 20Khz may be proven true, but AFAIK has = never proven by experiments related to music, even not by blind tests on = Golden Ear test subjects.
I don't have links to docs derived in = tightly controlled labs proving claims in either direction, which is = often the case in such discussions.
However, as most even halfways = adults can hardly detect freqs above ~14 Khz, I find it mostly = irrelevant for practical music production, even when using near state of = art equipment.

WRT the Shannon and Nyquist criteria, stating = frequencies reproducable up to half the sampling rate, provided = infinitely steep anti-aliasing filters are used, this used to be a big = problem in older days when using analog  filters, but is not the = case with todays 64x oversampling and digital filters.

I'm sure = some will say 96 (or 192Khz) sounds much better, and wil not argue that. =  However, it was mathematically proven on rec.audio.pro the = difference is hardly there. Further, certain interfaces actually does = sound better/cleaner/whatever at higher sample rates, which is simply = due to inadequate electronics desighns.


Please note: I = honestly didn't mean to start such a discussion, merely point out that = if we assume 48Khz is enough, dealing with a more than decent numbers of = track over firewire400 shouldn't be a problem.

-- =
rgds,
van Sinn


RICHARD SALES
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=



=

= --Apple-Mail-3-1061578254-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 18:39:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 552CE3BE7F; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=zIWk/Ikhs5aQxWOXGx29NLI0dGPaK2RnjCu5lpLKhhym1BYhdu5HoklE1TaFZA3rxDlycaOgPgk6MLPLm7rTDJ0WDU/BRMWGk7exoMSgpuJak/wMEzrT+PWmHd3mcBEWnqbG80gsdVFRH4wh3zwWFFWJUzYfdYeciUd6S6TrzSY=; X-YMail-OSG: WcWf7_EVM1nE3uKoIGDgyCBYn.5Z33nrIpgPtjnh0S8KedhBlkVwVgggMw6c6JpOnvWSM0JJYCSx7XXDOpcuMYxgH8hUbrxI4HF4u3ziabbk3stsJ2xPglyJsmhlpBGmqaVaGq.DIiTRGrZj6TnXKI62mC6zpyqVys_J0HppuDdMizDJZgR0jKVlEUA- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Frequencies_was_Re=3A_AW=3A_AW=3A_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDth?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?OUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:39:31 +0000 (UTC) First, let me say I do most of my recording at 44.1, and sometimes at 48...= =0A=0AIn a blind test you can quickly determine that the highest frequency = a person can hear is around 20K. These tests are typically done by an Audio= logist using a sine wave. From this you might conclude that it doesn't make= sense to record=A0sounds=A0above 20k because no one can hear them. The pro= blem is, music is not a sine wave.=0A=0AThere is a phenomena known as "beat= ing". It's what you hear when you're tuning your guitar.=A0I quote: "When t= wo single-frequency tones are present in the air at the same time, they wil= l interfere with each other and produce a beat frequency. The beat frequenc= y is equal to the difference between the frequencies of the two tones and i= f it is in the mid-frequency region, the human ear will perceive it as a th= ird tone, called a "subjective tone" or "difference tone". The difference t= ones are always present, but they can be made prominent by using two high, = clear tones like the notes of a flute. With two flutes you can produce a "t= rio for two flutes". This phenomenon can also be produced with one brass in= strument (multiphonics). If a French horn player plays one note and hums an= other, then the subjective tone which is the difference between them can so= metimes be heard clearly."=0A=0AIt's clear from this that a recording that = is brickwalled at 20k will remove/alter beat affects caused by frequencies = above 20k that would otherwise have been manifested in the audible frequenc= y range. If you merely compare FFT's=A0below 20k of one recording at 44.1 a= nd another at 192, your FFT's will likely look identical (taking in to acco= unt the differences in performance of ADA's at different frequencies). But = the human ear doesn't listen to FFT's. It hears the sound in the air. And i= t's not until the signal interacts in the air that these beat frequncies ap= pear.=0A=0AIt's my=A0belief that these beat frequencies, though subtle in m= ost musical contexts and certainly not perceived as a "third tone", are non= etheless important psycho-acoustic cues that aid in spacialization and "pre= sence". And I'm relaly surprised that the audio community at large hasn't f= igured this out a long time ago.=0A=0A-George=0A=0A=A0=0A----- Original Mes= sage ----=0AFrom: van Sinn =0ATo: Loopers-Deligh= t@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:11:38 AM=0ASubj= ect: Re: AW: AW: OT: new Macbook w=EDthOUT Firewire :(=0A=0ARainer Theloniu= s Balthasar Straschill wrote:=0A>>Not wanting to start a discussion about s= ample rate, but..=0A>>Again, on rec.audio.pro, it was mostly agreed that sa= mple rates above=0A>>44.1 or 48 doesn't yield anything, other than you her = the =0A>>drive more ;) I'll look for a link to that discussion..=0A> =0A> = =0A> Well, you just started it ;)=0A> =0A> Without wanting to go into too m= uch detail here, I'd like to point out a few=0A> items regarding sample rat= es here:=0A> =0A> As you (most probably) all know, the human ear can only h= ear up to about=0A> 16kHz (depending a lot on age and possible abuse), with= some people able to=0A> hear up to about 20kHz (and I don't want to discus= s precise values here, so=0A> if these values are in your opinion not corre= ct, this will not affect the=0A> text about to follow...).=0A> However, the= se values rely to stimuli with sine waves. Other experiments=0A> however le= ad to the conclusions that:=0A> =A0=A0=A0 1. the human ear can hear and dis= cern properties in transients which=0A> correspond to fourier transforms of= above 20kHz=0A> =A0=A0=A0 2. the human ear can detect phase relationships = on a scale smaller=0A> than 1/20kHz in the time domain=0A> =0A> What do we = need this for? (1) is used a lot for defining the characteristics=0A> of th= e sound. (2) is vitally important in directional hearing.=0A> =0A> Furtherm= ore, we got the issue with the anti-aliasing filters, which due to=0A> thei= r nature are NOT brickwalls at the Nyquist frequency (in case of a CD=0A> 2= 2.05kHz).=0A> =0A> So taking all of that into consideration, I can see (not= that I actually did=0A> listening tests here) that it may very well be pos= sible that there is an=0A> advantage of 96kHz over 48kHz - other than loadi= ng my computer.=0A> =0A> =A0=A0=A0 Rainer=0A=0AThis is common belief, often= debated and not holding water.=0AThat we under very ideal conditions might= be able to detect freqs higher =0Athan 20Khz may be proven true, but AFAIK= has never proven by experiments =0Arelated to music, even not by blind tes= ts on Golden Ear test subjects.=0AI don't have links to docs derived in tig= htly controlled labs proving =0Aclaims in either direction, which is often = the case in such discussions.=0AHowever, as most even halfways adults can h= ardly detect freqs above ~14 =0AKhz, I find it mostly irrelevant for practi= cal music production, even =0Awhen using near state of art equipment.=0A=0A= WRT the Shannon and Nyquist criteria, stating frequencies reproducable =0Au= p to half the sampling rate, provided infinitely steep anti-aliasing =0Afil= ters are used, this used to be a big problem in older days when using =0Aan= alog=A0 filters, but is not the case with todays 64x oversampling and =0Adi= gital filters.=0A=0AI'm sure some will say 96 (or 192Khz) sounds much bette= r, and wil not =0Aargue that.=A0 However, it was mathematically proven on r= ec.audio.pro the =0Adifference is hardly there. Further, certain interfaces= actually does =0Asound better/cleaner/whatever at higher sample rates, whi= ch is simply =0Adue to inadequate electronics desighns.=0A=0A=0APlease note= : I honestly didn't mean to start such a discussion, merely =0Apoint out th= at if we assume 48Khz is enough, dealing with a more than =0Adecent numbers= of track over firewire400 shouldn't be a problem.=0A=0A-- =0Argds,=0Avan S= inn=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 19:29:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B9C73BE81; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBMeHiGXXNaIY= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AW:_Frequencies_was_Re:_AW:_AW:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Firewire_:=28?= Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:29:19 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ackvvod6nPwHo7RhSn2GzWC/AubSJQABuVhQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: <8xbX5B.A.HnG.KY59IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:29:14 +0000 (UTC) > frequencies). But the human ear doesn't listen to FFT's. It Actually, it does more or less ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 21:31:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BDABB3BE82; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1f7e5ba6a0456c731fc10db8ffec899e.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: schematics/help for Ibanez DL-10 delay From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, analogue@hyperreal.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:31:33 +0000 (UTC) I just got a non working Ibanez DL10. Upon looking at it there are a number of parts (capacitors, resistors, soldered to the underside of the PCB board. Is this normal? One fo the capacitors connects to the output jack and it's clear the diode D6 is fried. That is the only indication something is wrong by looking at it. I'm guessing someone tried to modify this but I need to make sure. The seller (of course) said it worked fine and then "just stopped". Capacitors wired to a component that fried on the wrong side of the PCB suggests otherwise. If anyone can check to see if their DL10 has components soldered to the bottom of the PCB I'd be most greatful. If anyone has schematics or the value/part for what is D6 that would also be a HUGE help. I tried Indyguitarist already and couldn't find anything these on the DL10. Thanks for any/all help! D- -- ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 21:43:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 460CE3BE88; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F7B59C.10808@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:43:56 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Frequencies_was_Re=3A_AW=3A_AW=3A?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:43:12 +0000 (UTC) George Ludwig wrote: > First, let me say I do most of my recording at 44.1, and sometimes at 48... > > In a blind test you can quickly determine that the highest frequency a person can hear is around 20K. These tests are typically done by an Audiologist using a sine wave. From this you might conclude that it doesn't make sense to record sounds above 20k because no one can hear them. The problem is, music is not a sine wave. > > There is a phenomena known as "beating". It's what you hear when you're tuning your guitar. I quote: "When two single-frequency tones are present in the air at the same time, they will interfere with each other and produce a beat frequency. The beat frequency is equal to the difference between the frequencies of the two tones and if it is in the mid-frequency region, the human ear will perceive it as a third tone, called a "subjective tone" or "difference tone". The difference tones are always present, but they can be made prominent by using two high, clear tones like the notes of a flute. With two flutes you can produce a "trio for two flutes". This phenomenon can also be produced with one brass instrument (multiphonics). If a French horn player plays one note and hums another, then the subjective tone which is the difference between them can sometimes be heard clearly." > > It's clear from this that a recording that is brickwalled at 20k will remove/alter beat affects caused by frequencies above 20k that would otherwise have been manifested in the audible frequency range. If you merely compare FFT's below 20k of one recording at 44.1 and another at 192, your FFT's will likely look identical (taking in to account the differences in performance of ADA's at different frequencies). But the human ear doesn't listen to FFT's. It hears the sound in the air. And it's not until the signal interacts in the air that these beat frequncies appear. > > It's my belief that these beat frequencies, though subtle in most musical contexts and certainly not perceived as a "third tone", are nonetheless important psycho-acoustic cues that aid in spacialization and "presence". And I'm relaly surprised that the audio community at large hasn't figured this out a long time ago. > > -George Correct, it's intermodulation, actually both the sum and difference of two tones. Now it gets interesting.. In the natural/analog domain we have two tones, say 21 Khz and 24 Khz. Their intermodulation products are 24 - 21 = 3 Khz and 24 + 21 = 45 Khz. Let's imagine the 45 Khz is really inaudible and rule it off. We may not hear the 21 Khz and 24 Khz tones, but will hear the 3 Khz. Now we record it with equipment cabable of say going to 30 Khz, and get 3 Khz, 21 Khz and 24 Khz on track; all is fine. We play it back through gear capable of reproducing 30 Khz, to be safe. The played back 21 Khz and 24 Khz tone now intermodulate in the acoustic domain, and produce intermodulations at tada! 3 Khz and 45 Khz. Again, we disregard the 45 Khz, but ooups! the 3 Khz will sum with the already recorded 3 Khz to a 3 Khz tone at twize the original SPL. Hence, we should always filter off those obviously too high frequencies, and only record what's really needed. Of cause I'm making an impossible statement, because the exact same scenario takes place when recording say 10 Khz and 13 Khz. and clearly we wouldn't wan't to filter those away, would we now.. The result: Actually, we can hardly record and reproduce anything without at playback introducing drone frequencies at twize their original levels, so.. better not record at all ;) The only way out is to actually *be* where natural music takes place! Ok, I scratch me geek'ish beard, light the pipe and play Sherlock.. Hmmm... no, can't figure out what's missing, but since recorded musick kinda sounds akin to the original, I choose to disrespect the above. What's left is that I don't have to care about not recording those 21 Khz and 24 Khz, because, since they do produce the audible 3 Khz, which by sheer magic makes it onto tracks, it does get reproduced during playback, and tada! no need to record the 21+24 Khz. All is well! Hope you had fun, I did.. :D I'm unemployed at the moment - too much time to think.. I'll accept any audio engineering jobs (I'll even sing) - any takers ;) > ----- Original Message ---- > From: van Sinn > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 11:11:38 AM > Subject: Re: AW: AW: OT: new Macbook wíthOUT Firewire :( > > Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > >>>Not wanting to start a discussion about sample rate, but.. >>>Again, on rec.audio.pro, it was mostly agreed that sample rates above >>>44.1 or 48 doesn't yield anything, other than you her the >>>drive more ;) I'll look for a link to that discussion.. >> >> >>Well, you just started it ;) >> >>Without wanting to go into too much detail here, I'd like to point out a few >>items regarding sample rates here: >> >>As you (most probably) all know, the human ear can only hear up to about >>16kHz (depending a lot on age and possible abuse), with some people able to >>hear up to about 20kHz (and I don't want to discuss precise values here, so >>if these values are in your opinion not correct, this will not affect the >>text about to follow...). >>However, these values rely to stimuli with sine waves. Other experiments >>however lead to the conclusions that: >> 1. the human ear can hear and discern properties in transients which >>correspond to fourier transforms of above 20kHz >> 2. the human ear can detect phase relationships on a scale smaller >>than 1/20kHz in the time domain >> >>What do we need this for? (1) is used a lot for defining the characteristics >>of the sound. (2) is vitally important in directional hearing. >> >>Furthermore, we got the issue with the anti-aliasing filters, which due to >>their nature are NOT brickwalls at the Nyquist frequency (in case of a CD >>22.05kHz). >> >>So taking all of that into consideration, I can see (not that I actually did >>listening tests here) that it may very well be possible that there is an >>advantage of 96kHz over 48kHz - other than loading my computer. >> >> Rainer > > > This is common belief, often debated and not holding water. > That we under very ideal conditions might be able to detect freqs higher > than 20Khz may be proven true, but AFAIK has never proven by experiments > related to music, even not by blind tests on Golden Ear test subjects. > I don't have links to docs derived in tightly controlled labs proving > claims in either direction, which is often the case in such discussions. > However, as most even halfways adults can hardly detect freqs above ~14 > Khz, I find it mostly irrelevant for practical music production, even > when using near state of art equipment. > > WRT the Shannon and Nyquist criteria, stating frequencies reproducable > up to half the sampling rate, provided infinitely steep anti-aliasing > filters are used, this used to be a big problem in older days when using > analog filters, but is not the case with todays 64x oversampling and > digital filters. > > I'm sure some will say 96 (or 192Khz) sounds much better, and wil not > argue that. However, it was mathematically proven on rec.audio.pro the > difference is hardly there. Further, certain interfaces actually does > sound better/cleaner/whatever at higher sample rates, which is simply > due to inadequate electronics desighns. > > > Please note: I honestly didn't mean to start such a discussion, merely > point out that if we assume 48Khz is enough, dealing with a more than > decent numbers of track over firewire400 shouldn't be a problem. > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 22:11:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89F6F3BE7F; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:11:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBMeHiGXXNaIY= Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AW:_Frequencies_was_Re:_AW:_AW:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Firewire_:=28?= Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:11:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <48F7B59C.10808@post.cybercity.dk> Thread-Index: Ackv2DCBzve8Iv8HR8i07F2L6f1jlQAAsNWQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:11:22 +0000 (UTC) > when you're tuning your guitar. I quote: "When two > single-frequency tones are present in the air at the same > time, they will interfere with each other and produce a beat > frequency. The beat frequency is equal to the difference > between the frequencies of the two tones and if it is in the > mid-frequency region, the human ear will perceive it as a Now I throw in a bunch of theory and state: in any linear system, the output for a sum of two inputs is equal to the sum of the outputs for the two individual inputs to the system. So: no intermodulation. Now let's turn it the other way round: if intermodulation occurs, obviously our system is nonlinear. So simply keep your system as linear as possible, and all is (and stays) well. > The only way out is to actually *be* where natural music takes place! And have the music always play back at low SPLs AND low spectral density. So, no more death metal concerts and no more recorder ensembles. > Hmmm... no, can't figure out what's missing, but since See above ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 22:56:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B141A3BE7F; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:56:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_Frequencies_was_Re:_AW:_AW:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?Firewire_:=28?= Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:56:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:56:32 +0000 (UTC) I haven't done a research study on sample rates, but I have studied the subject in the classroom and in the real world. As you increase the sample rate, you build a better quality representation of the original signal. In terms of what you hear, this will translate to a lower noise floor. Personally, I don't know how much better, but if you have equipment capable of handling 192kHz sampling instead of 48kHz, then you might as well use it. If you are a professional recording studio, you want to use the absolute best that you can afford. On the other hand, you can record at 44.1kHz and 48kHz and find that the quality of sound is exactly what you want. In fact, if you are going to distribute the music digitally on CD or compatible with a CD then you will be providing the listener with music sampled at 44.1kHz no matter what frequency you originally sampled it at. There is no advantage to 192kHz sampling and down converting to 48 over simply sampling at 48kHz in the first place. As for aliasing effects that were discussed, all A/D converters use an anti-aliasing filter before the actual conversion. This prevents beat frequencies from appearing in the audio. In fact, modern A/D converters use a two-step anti-aliasing filter that provides a very sharp cut off of the dangerous frequencies. So, you aren't going to hear beat frequencies in the result because the difference in frequency between the original signal and the sampling rate are large enough that the resulting aliases are outside of the audible rangle. Bob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 16 23:19:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 988923BE7E; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em00 Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:19:21 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200810162319.m9GNJL9l026208@post.webmailer.de> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?=52=65=3a=20=52=65=3a=20=46=72=65=71=75=65=6e=63=69=65=73=20=77=61=73=20=52=65=3a=20=41=57=3a=20=41=57=3a=20=4f=54=3a=20=6e=65=77=20=4d=61=63=62=6f=6f=6b=20=77=ed=74=68=4f=55=54=20=46=69=72=65=77=69=72=65=20=3a=28?= X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 88.64.102.190 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Bob said: > Personally, I don't know how much better, but if you have equipment capab= le > of handling 192kHz sampling instead of 48kHz, then you might as well use = it. Unfortunately, I can't find the reference right now, but I remember a study= conducted by one of those "big ears" (Lipinski?) who came to the conclusio= n that in blind testing, those super-top-level thingies are equal or better= at 96kHz compared to 192kHz...go figure. > frequency you originally sampled it at. There is no advantage to 192kHz= =20 > sampling and down converting to 48 over simply sampling at 48kHz in the= =20 > first place. Nearly true. If you record at 96kHz (or 88.2kHz, if you're happier with tha= t), THEN dither and noiseshape and THEN downsample, the noiseshaping will m= ove noise into a frequency range which will get filtered before downsamplin= g. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 17 07:16:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31E983BE82; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: EDP reprograms itself tonight Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:15:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <48F6F128.1040606@tiscali.co.uk> Thread-Index: AckvYvH9AqY79OV7TMqnszPSuhAFiwAxIEPg Message-Id: <20081017071603.9C0BF3BE78@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Andy, Your tip saved me a BUNCH of time, as I couldn't recognize the same info in the manual. I don't know how it got reset, but that's exactly what it was. Tonight's gig was flawless as far as EDP precision was concerned, including successive undo's. On a few occasions, Overdub could not be activated until a new pass through the loop was underway, but that wasn't a major issue. I was working outdoors next to a lake tonight, and at the end of the evening, some of the servers came up and told me how unusual it was to see people there just sitting quietly and listening, staring into space instead of endless talking. Mission accomplished... Thanks again, and to Travis as well. dave somehow you managed to change to Delay Mode the parameter is called LoopDelay=DEL on older machines don't know if that name got changed for later models, but it's the parameter at the bottom left on the grid (or did the EDP manage that on it's own? it's hard to tell sometimes) andy butler From lloydsbankplc4401@yahoo.com.co Fri Oct 17 08:21:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 315 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:21:40 UTC Received: from n23c.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n23c.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.39]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 465623BE78 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:21:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [68.142.200.224] by n23.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2008 08:16:23 -0000 Received: from [209.191.119.183] by t5.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2008 08:16:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp106.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2008 08:16:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 535827.39041.bm@omp106.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 49511 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2008 08:16:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ymail_nen1; d=yahoo.com.co; h=Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=A52P3udsFFLZAh33Opo6CIUMrvbiEM2Xtv4/DjCASqYh64I7CNLi69KnS9qy6H4reCgzAFD9WYCMUPueGQXaDA+cCtqF4mgdjij+9IzOqReLK6NibW3VC7LCEGihnlKgAVo5FS2k1ZPCXE6qzQjTig6wrRMUPSujD1fjQ6YiAk0=; Received: from [196.207.9.59] by web59509.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:16:22 PDT Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:16:22 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?q?Lloyds=20TSB=20Bank=20Plc?= Reply-To: lloydstsb_bank@inMail24.com Subject: REF: IMMEDIATE PAYMENT RELEASE HAS BEEN APPROVED TO YOU. 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FROM: MR IBRAHIM USMAN
AUDITING / ACCOUNTING DIRECTOR
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PROPOSITION; I discovered an abandant sum of $11.5M(Eleven Mil= lion Five Hundred thousand United sta= tes Dollars) in an = account that belongs to one of our foreign customers who died along with hi= s entire family. Since his death, none of his next-of-kin or relations has = come forward to lay claims to this money as the heir. I cannot release the = fund from his account unless someone applies for claim as the next-of-kin t= o the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines. Upon

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These requirements will enable me file a letter of claim t= o the appropriate departments for necessary approvals in your favour before= the transfer can be made. I shall be compensating you with $4.6 Million Do= llars on final conclusion of this project, while the rest $6.9Million shall= be for me. Your share stays with you while the rest shall be for me for in= vestment purposes in your country.
 
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Message id: 0011966002768-wmrtsrv From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 17 10:59:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B840E3BE84; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:59:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F8705C.7090601@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:00:44 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Frequencies_was_Re=3A_AW=3A_AW=3A?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: <200810162319.m9GNJL9l026208@post.webmailer.de> In-Reply-To: <200810162319.m9GNJL9l026208@post.webmailer.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:59:44 +0000 (UTC) rs@moinlabs.de wrote: > Bob said: > >>Personally, I don't know how much better, but if you have equipment capable >>of handling 192kHz sampling instead of 48kHz, then you might as well use it. > > > Unfortunately, I can't find the reference right now, but I remember a study conducted by one of those "big ears" (Lipinski?) who came to the conclusion that in blind testing, those super-top-level thingies are equal or better at 96kHz compared to 192kHz...go figure. > > >>frequency you originally sampled it at. There is no advantage to 192kHz >>sampling and down converting to 48 over simply sampling at 48kHz in the >>first place. > > > Nearly true. If you record at 96kHz (or 88.2kHz, if you're happier with that), THEN dither and noiseshape and THEN downsample, the noiseshaping will move noise into a frequency range which will get filtered before downsampling. > > Rainer True, however, this is mostly irrelevant if considering really well designed hardware and dither/noiseshaping algorithms. Wit proper gear and amploying aggressive noise shaping, the higher sample rates don't yield any significant benefits. This can be boiled down to that higher sample rates makes it easier to implement well working components, which may well compare better to less than adequately designed components working at lower rates. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 17 11:12:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D22E93BE7E; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48F87340.9090006@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:13:04 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Frequencies_was_Re=3A_AW=3A_AW=3A?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Uh oh, I find it hard arguing with an authority like you ;) Bob Amstadt wrote: > I haven't done a research study on sample rates, but I have studied the > subject in the classroom and in the real world. As you increase the > sample rate, you build a better quality representation of the original > signal. In terms of what you hear, this will translate to a lower noise > floor. Personally, I don't know how much better, but if you have > equipment capable of handling 192kHz sampling instead of 48kHz, then you > might as well use it. If you are a professional recording studio, you > want to use the absolute best that you can afford. Not fully correct. That the higher sample rate must yield a more fine-grained representation of the souce is true, but what matters is being able to reproduce the source, which can be done as soon as the sample rate match/exeed the minimum as required by Shannon/Nyquist + of cause practical considerations WRT oversampling and filtering et al.. It can be shown by math, which I can understand - just don't ask me to provide such math proof :) > On the other hand, you can record at 44.1kHz and 48kHz and find that the > quality of sound is exactly what you want. In fact, if you are going to > distribute the music digitally on CD or compatible with a CD then you > will be providing the listener with music sampled at 44.1kHz no matter > what frequency you originally sampled it at. There is no advantage to > 192kHz sampling and down converting to 48 over simply sampling at 48kHz > in the first place. Agreed. In fact, I've heard numerous stories about pro audio engineers working in 44.1/48 and simply upsampling to 96/192 if clients require this high sample rate. When getting the work back from the client, they downsample again. With correctly applied up/down sampling, dithering and noiseshaping, the result is reportedly indistinquisable. > As for aliasing effects that were discussed, all A/D converters use an > anti-aliasing filter before the actual conversion. This prevents beat > frequencies from appearing in the audio. In fact, modern A/D converters > use a two-step anti-aliasing filter that provides a very sharp cut off > of the dangerous frequencies. So, you aren't going to hear beat > frequencies in the result because the difference in frequency between > the original signal and the sampling rate are large enough that the > resulting aliases are outside of the audible rangle. > > Bob Absolutely true. -- rgds, van Sinn From reda_abdallah02@hotmail.com Fri Oct 17 16:30:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1622 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:30:49 UTC Received: from mail.webnow.com (mail.webnow.com [216.28.188.16]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BCF3BE77 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:01:22 -0400 Message-Id: <200810171201.AA489882204@mail.webnow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "abdallah" Reply-To: X-Sender: To: Subject: I NEED TRUST X-Mailer: I NEED TRUST The Chief Auditor/Information manager, In-Charge of Foreign Unit African Development Bank Group, Ouaga. 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In sincerity, MR.REDA ABDALLAH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 17 16:33:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B46663BE7E; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 11:33:25 -0500 Subject: RE: software for realtime MIDI processing (context-sensitive transforms) Thread-Topic: software for realtime MIDI processing (context-sensitive transforms) Thread-Index: AckvoB/pD4RGTbZlQG6Yn8W5RpN8EwA1LoCw Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3530E3E1@barq.sailpoint.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <5hoiYB.A.fmB.Z5L-IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:33:29 +0000 (UTC) > * If the pedal is depressed, the note number coming from one > specific trigger pad should be shifted to another note number > * hits on the snares and toms should alternatingly trigger the le= ft > and right hand samples AFAIK, MIDI OX can do the first but not the second. You would need something that supports scriptable transformations with "memory" to keep track of the hit phase. You could do this in pd but it's a rather large sledgehammer. I'm not aware of anything small and light that does this. Hmm, maybe we should make one :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 17 17:41:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DC783BE84; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=wX+qRSkKFLZX5j1OQRaaqWPTXzUXI3w2nyNUBZA6DRU=; b=x/q9RDNk0JXC3PPMRiVA35FjPGd2jIS073K8211b6BACnC+hetgDYIJ+i4kVJ59sNq Oa3ob6WMLRwmteX0dgS8kM0KSs7Lch4AiZRgsGM2F8zhpc1jPR0DO26jUDx1jmKBiNQk Bipu008686D6of7/bDBeUKQGoiOExD1+oOLvk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=IQOCB36Fr1F9aJilXCSKHu3oCKAz0THFBl7pg52pysQ5i212dytFGPGUrlDS40kCU/ k9PzRx8R9+cjCXIa4HTNXeGVKBmJhGHto4IPYXh67RR+2Da7lbED8UQd+gbQ6Vtfj8sG Fh9+BzfwtJNmq9P2r3LqKYoh7sKEbR6NF35rs= Message-ID: <8c82d1660810171041i6f3c28c4uff9e19542555a7b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:41:45 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP for sale on the ebay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17566_10526719.1224265305926" Resent-Message-ID: <7phos.A.zfD.c5M-IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17566_10526719.1224265305926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey there folks. Sorry about the schill. One of my EDPs is up on ebay right now. Great shape, with footswitch and manual. Item number 320311038977 or: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320311038977&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm38%26_nkw%3D%2B320311038977%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1 My OTHER Echoplex is tentatively on hold for an LDer, but if that falls through will be right behind it. I'm also selling lots of other awesome stuff, including my customized Epiphone, analog synth, Eventide H3000, and more. I'm not ecstatic about having to do all this...I'm just in a bit of a "situation". I'm comforting myself with the axiom that a "Limited Palette" is a catalyst for creativity. Like, doing more with less. All though, I'm not doing a very good job of schilling my ebay stuff, am I? Oh well. Thanks. ------=_Part_17566_10526719.1224265305926 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hey there folks. Sorry about the schill.

One of my EDPs is up on ebay right now. Great shape, with footswitch and manual. Item number 320311038977 or:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320311038977&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm38%26_nkw%3D%2B320311038977%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1


My OTHER  Echoplex is tentatively on hold for an LDer, but if that falls through will be right behind it. I'm also selling lots of other awesome stuff, including my customized Epiphone, analog synth, Eventide H3000, and more.

I'm not ecstatic about having to do all this...I'm just in a bit of a "situation". I'm comforting myself with the axiom that a "Limited Palette" is a catalyst for creativity. Like, doing more with less. All though, I'm not doing a very good job of schilling my ebay stuff, am I? Oh well.

Thanks.
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--YCalInvites=G51WiZjUHyVlNP2FKVSA6rZlcWiGj0I1224286454-1-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 05:46:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7742A3BE7C; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224308790; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=F+HNU8lY3akTYm/1rxxBn2hrc30=; b=i9R3+TOOacdPIs5BYZeSoMOzO+bu1ciMVg+Es1pxQWMXz0pQNJXjJjnFDYDmvI0r Tjb8P6N9EiW26pdguzABRYF7vaYtCvRlK1/U7hBEm0fkkMoMQXs+c4WdD9zRPnV1; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=5pNz0s-mD6BKiGxpNWQA:9 a=gxz8QxwGxUOQEf4h2KSa1ti5IYEA:4 a=JqzK7hVu6n4A:10 a=gtF402tDmFJ2XaZQpusA:9 a=44gasvPzcawMr6us_2oA:7 a=IW8ZsOvhpxIHOb0Cec-ooiiPEs4A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000901c930e4$de58ad40$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Possibly OT: Dead Horse department Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:46:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C930C3.56AC05C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:46:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C930C3.56AC05C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems a little slow here with many of the more prolific out on the = left coast and since I had a hectic day with alot of my friends sure = that the world is coming to an end if their candidate doesn't win I'll = throw this out for entertainment purposes only. Do not try this at home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMXmxwW2WdsM There is only looping if you count quick reverse delay turnarounds and = video looping in spots. just in time for Halloween. best, Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C930C3.56AC05C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It seems a little slow here with many of the more prolific out on the = left=20 coast and since I had a hectic day with alot of my friends sure that the = world=20 is coming to an end if their candidate doesn't win I'll throw this out = for=20 entertainment purposes only. Do not try this at home.

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DMXmxwW2WdsM

There is only looping if you count quick reverse delay turnarounds = and video=20 looping in spots.

just in time for Halloween.

 

best,

        =20 Jeff

------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C930C3.56AC05C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 08:32:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D8863BE7E; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:32:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loop List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Echoplex's brother Icaue Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 05:32:09 -0300 Cc: Tim Crowe X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:32:36 +0000 (UTC) youhou! today is Icau=EA first party! ( not OT as you will see below ) My son's age is still slightly negative, but his movements are clearly =20= visible from a far now, and at the daily percussion lesson he listens =20= and answers like slightly positive aged citizens :-) is it my first kid? until I was exactly 49 (7x7!), which was exactly when this astrologic =20= year started, I suspected that in this life my family was LOOP and my kids were machines (PolySubbass, LOOP delay, Echoplex...) and my younger looper friends would ease me if I'd grow old and lonely... but the pill failed and I am moved by the coincidence that: while my old family is partying in Sana X (and in Norwich last week!) we show off Icau=EA's Rick-green cozy room with the "uncle" made Dininho = =20 and the Formula K cockpit and whatnot we got... to all the crazy and =20 beautiful improvisers and contact dancers and yoga teachers and... of =20= Salvador/Bahia !! today I also ordered the british birth pool Bassine to slow down =20 Icaue's next heavy task sequence of moving out, unfold, feeling space, =20= feeling air, breathing... (in case you wonder how to say his name: its almost sung, since the =20 first and the last letter are equally accentuated. Just imagine the =20 flow from I the input on top, through C the neck with the blade, A the center, U the unknown and E the event, exit, export!) so will I abandon my old family? will I loop the kid thing now? I had a heavy problem that isolated me the last 5 years but it was =20 solved shortly after the y2k7 - with great help from Rick's huge good =20= will, understanding and insistence! so the past months I have been programming day and night to bring =20 another kid to screen light and its also near, but it does not depend =20= just on me, patience... and don't expect too much, we had to move the =20= LOOP IV technology to the computer first and only the next version =20 will contain the new ideas... we even want to build this new software into a new little box (sure: =20 no noise, stereo, flashcard... and still smaller and cheaper than the =20= EDP!) and even a HW prototype and money is available, but the project =20= might fail due to lack of administration capacity... at least, in free moments, I will work on video, sound and text =20 documentation about what we are doing, and try to follow the heavy =20 rhythm of this list again! sun is rising for the son a huge hug to all of you and a big tatataaa to the loop activists and =20= Icaue! Matthias= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 09:39:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00A1C3BE79; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 978 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:39:24 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=AY2MPVwagwd87lSqdssVn9IDTiaNw3W1c0Unfjcy8tTWm/SSsqAuKSJ8NAqI5xGd; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60810160811i62356ab2td2b090b87c4c7ca0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: GIG SPAM Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 02:23:05 -0700 References: <9e0440a60810160811i62356ab2td2b090b87c4c7ca0@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c26091d68cc27dedf8bb6f25814f926bad18a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: <1W1s1.A.UHD.M7a-IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:39:24 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, I have three words; SEE CHINA PAINTING!!!!!!!!!!!! :) =20 Aside from the fact that their show is terrific, with a mix of crazy, =20= squiggly loopage as well as more 'straight-forward,' tonal, soulful, =20 beautiful music, they're simply just great peeps! -And you should go =20= and SHOW THEM SERIOUS LOVE!!!! :) :) they rock and they're way fun, SO GO!!! lol! Echo Curio was a blast and it was lovely to be able to catch up =20 with Jim and Daryl for a wonderful lunch earlier today. :) J and D, =20= you two are super fab! Come back soon, K?=85 Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 16, 2008, at 8:11 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Chinapainting begins a 5 show tour in California today. > > We have the following gigs... > > 10/16 Echo Curio, LA (echo park), 8pm > 10/17 Saturation Fest/Pharoah's Den, Riverside, 8pm > 10/18 m2 Wines, Lodi (Sacramento), 11am-4pm > 10/19 Y2K8 Int'l Live Looping Festival, Santa Cruz, 8pm > 10/20 SMF Music Series Java Lounge, Sacramento, 830pm > > Should you be near come see us. > > Jim www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www. 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AUDITING / ACCOUNTING DIRECTOR
INTERNATIONAL BANK OF AFRIC= A(BOA)
BURKINA-FASO = WEST AFRICA.=
     
 
My dear I am contacting you in regards to a business transfer = of a huge sum of money from a deceased account. Though I know that a transa= ction of this magnitude will make anyone apprehensive and worried, but I am= assuring you that all will be well at the end of the day. I decided to con= tact you due to the urgency of this transaction.
 
PROPOSITION; I discovered an abandant sum of $11.5M(Eleven Mil= lion Five Hundred thousand United sta= tes Dollars) in an = account that belongs to one of our foreign customers who died along with hi= s entire family. Since his death, none of his next-of-kin or relations has = come forward to lay claims to this money as the heir. I cannot release the = fund from his account unless someone applies for claim as the next-of-kin t= o the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines. Upon

this discovery, I now seek your permission to have you sta= nd as a next of kin to the deceased as all documentations will be carefully= worked out by me for the funds $11.5M(Eleven Million Five Hundred thousand= <= span id=3D"lw_1168548360_3" style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: #0066cc 1px dashed">United sta= tes Dollars) to be = released in your favour as the beneficiary's next of kin.It may in= terest you to note that I have secured from the probate an order of madamus= to locate any of deceased beneficiaries.
 
Please acknowledge receipt of this message in acceptance of my mu= tual business endeavour by

furnishing me with the following;
1. Your Full Names an= d Address.
2. Direct Telephone and Fax numbers.

These requirements will enable me file a letter of claim t= o the appropriate departments for necessary approvals in your favour before= the transfer can be made. I shall be compensating you with $4.6 Million Do= llars on final conclusion of this project, while the rest $6.9Million shall= be for me. Your share stays with you while the rest shall be for me for in= vestment purposes in your country.
 
If this proposal is acceptable by you, do not take undue advan= tage of the trust I have bestowed in you, I await your urgent email.Please reply in this my alternative email address only ibrahim_usman1@yahoo.com for confidential reasons.


 <= /strong> 
Regards,
Your;s faithfully,
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------=_Part_79916_26763767.1224325085187-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 13:28:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2925E3BE7C; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:28:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=6+TqmIDntH8HRz6rCrCSUDVA9umPHceLhTRugIJVXRo=; b=daaGSnx9A9Apek+4251CkUBk85xnJpD7FfbsOGtMaJ3i9ZMD1Mo7UOj/p7TmjnYasq ISAkB0kl1Mw004YXrt3qPDQxJfGwTapbmceVvfYDz2GxXdZlOwpfPBsl9Jn6x1GkAuMj lxySyeWyZxcSeViae0zIRXnoa0D90q1JweLNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=PMEAzp6PhN2waWfeB0lWg7eQ2lj6RRepVTpxvYwzyR6rrmpGlSV3WAtN3FPE1xsBI1 pHY7jyThY+RTS81+vCH6HC4bCMt3dCa06THNmGkwilsgUyax7axMU9xq1lGcLUiNDsxN YhFh9zKKn7RAYvkKS4SKkQhaACaml+AFem70I= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810180628y6e501bf0j470d40ca6c36beaa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:28:06 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: MOTU tech support experience MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:28:07 +0000 (UTC) In my adventures to loop my double bass I have attempted to get support from MOTU regarding my ultralite. I submitted a 'techlink' (their web based support) four days ago and have received no reply yet. I also have attempted to call them 2-3 times throughout the past four days when I have had the free time and I have always received a busy signal. I am not trying to bash MOTU. I like the ultralite but it has been difficult for me to communicate or reach anyone in tech support to help solve my problem. I thought I would share my experience so far with everyone on the list so this information is out there and can be taken into consideration. Happy loopin' weekend, Todd From colin.mckinnon@pei.sympatico.ca Sat Oct 18 14:24:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 79152 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:24:21 UTC Received: from tomts23-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts23-srv.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.185]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4A93BE73 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:24:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from toip34-bus.srvr.bell.ca ([67.69.240.35]) by tomts37-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with ESMTP id <20081017162506.CLJG1724.tomts37-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip34-bus.srvr.bell.ca>; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:25:06 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah1IALZT+EjR4q+G/2dsb2JhbACJQoEMgUuIJimGepxthHGHMQ Received: from tofep2.bellnexxia.net (HELO smtp.bellnexxia.net) ([209.226.175.134]) by toip34-bus.srvr.bell.ca with SMTP; 17 Oct 2008 12:24:52 -0400 X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.11 (webedge20-101-194-20030622) X-Originating-IP: [81.199.54.12] From: heritagefunding6@gmail.com To: Subject: HERITAGE FUNDING ORGANIZATION Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 12:24:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20081017162506.CLJG1724.tomts37-srv.bellnexxia.net@toip34-bus.srvr.bell.ca> We wish to notify you that this email address is entitled to a substantialamount of 750,000.00GBP by HERITAGE FUNDING ORGANIZATION MR Mr James Grant, Email:heritagefunding6@gmail.com with your Names:_____________Address:________________Country:_______________ Occupation:________________Phonenumber:_____________ Age___________________ Sincerely, MR Mr James Grant, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 15:38:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D85A3BE7C; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Mountain Cablevision Ltd Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <48F746B6.4030300@post.cybercity.dk> References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <48F746B6.4030300@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--923515114 Message-Id: <62135315-1558-481A-B4A2-366816309D6A@mountaincable.net> From: Chris Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:38:24 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:38:38 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--923515114 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed have another look at apple site .... firewire is present ...... am =20 i wrong chris hutton On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:50 AM, van Sinn wrote: > Per Boysen wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >>> Hi folks >>> >>> now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: >>> For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come =20 >>> out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! >>> >>> Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? >> Buy an older model: >> http://www.apple.com/macbook/white/specs.html >> The new MacBooks (2.0 or 2.4 GHz) feature a 1066 MHz frontside bus in >> contrast to the MacBook White's (2.1 Ghz) 800 MHz fontside bus. Both >> Intel Core 2 Duo processors with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running >> 1:1 with processor speed. I use the old 2.2 GHz MacBook White and =20 >> find >> it fully sufficient. I would think different though if I was up to >> making multi track recordings, as when recording twenty mic inputs at >> one go. But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800. > > I'm thinking.. on the rec.auodio.pro NG we had a discussion about =20 > how many tracks can be run in parallel on fw400, don't remember the =20= > number, but decently many. Same with the number of simultaneous =20 > audio ifc's. > IIRC, it's possible to obtain a fw800 switch with four fw400 ports =20 > on the other side. So buy a new Macbook Pro and such a switch, and =20= > connect an external 3=BD" fw400 drive + fw400 audio interfaces to = that. > > For my own home studio uses, I may buy a Macbook and use fw400 for =20 > an external 3=BD" disk, and shop a pcmcia adapter for my RME = Multiface. > I do worry about not having enough ram for Logic and Reason and =20 > loaded soundfonts (percussion, keyboards and philharmonics =20 > instruments). > > >> I've just been around doing a bunch of gigs with Mobius VST/Windows >> (on the MacBook) and I think a small miracle would be needed to get >> the same performance power into the Mac version. My experience so far >> is that for live processing of a live audio input Windows works =20 >> better >> (meaning zero tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio =20 >> artifacts). >> Then I have been a pro user of Mac since the early nineties and I do >> prefer Mac OS X for everything else ;-) > > Interesting. Last October I attended a Logic Studio seminar, held =20 > by Erik Metall from Sweeden. He ran a pretty large multi-track =20 > studio arrangement in Logic on a Macbook, no hickups at all. > Erik didn't loop at all, only played bass through this setup to =20 > demo building the sound, so of cause I can't evaluate how robust it =20= > is. > > --=20 > rgds, > van Sinn > Chris magestic12@mountaincable.net --Apple-Mail-1--923515114 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 =A0have another look at apple site .... firewire is present ...... am i = wrong
chris hutton
On Oct 16, 2008, at 9:50 AM, van = Sinn wrote:

Per Boysen wrote:
=
On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at = 10:20 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
=
Hi folks

now, = this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam:
For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new = MacBook to come out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE = anymore!!!

Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what = to do?
Buy an older = model:
The new = MacBooks (2.0 or 2.4 GHz) feature a 1066 MHz frontside bus in
contrast to the MacBook White's (2.1 Ghz) 800 MHz = fontside bus. Both
Intel Core 2 Duo processors = with 3MB on-chip shared L2 cache running
1:1 with = processor speed. I use the old 2.2 GHz MacBook White and find
it fully sufficient. I would think different though = if I was up to
making multi track recordings, = as when recording twenty mic inputs at
one go. = But for everything else FW 400 is as good as FW 800.
=

I'm thinking..=A0= on the rec.auodio.pro NG we had a discussion about how many = tracks can be run in parallel on fw400, don't remember the number, but = decently many.=A0 Same with = the number of simultaneous audio ifc's.
IIRC, = it's possible to obtain a fw800 switch with four fw400 ports on the = other side.=A0 So buy a new = Macbook Pro and such a switch, and connect an external 3=BD" fw400 drive = + fw400 audio interfaces to that.

For my own home studio uses, I = may buy a Macbook and use fw400 for an external 3=BD" disk, and shop a = pcmcia adapter for my RME Multiface.
I do worry = about not having enough ram for Logic and Reason and loaded soundfonts = (percussion, keyboards and philharmonics instruments).


I've just been around doing a bunch of gigs with = Mobius VST/Windows
(on the MacBook) and I = think a small miracle would be needed to get
the same performance power into the Mac version. My = experience so far
is that for live processing of a = live audio input Windows works better
(meaning = zero tolerance for drop-outs or any kind of audio artifacts).
Then I have been a pro user of Mac since the early = nineties and I do
prefer Mac OS X for everything = else=A0 ;-)
=

Interesting.=A0 = Last October I attended a Logic Studio seminar, held by Erik = Metall from Sweeden.=A0 He = ran a pretty large multi-track studio arrangement in Logic on a Macbook, = no hickups at all.
Erik didn't loop at all, = only played bass through this setup to demo building the sound, so of = cause I can't evaluate how robust it is.

--=A0
van Sinn

=

magestic12@mountaincable.net<= /a>


=

= --Apple-Mail-1--923515114-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 16:56:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 397173BE7F; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48FA1550.3020401@hevanet.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <2bRKv.A.U8.SVh-IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:56:50 +0000 (UTC) One of the coolest announcements I've ever seen! Congrats 'n joy, Matthias, Icauê! David Matthias Grob wrote: > youhou! > > today is Icauê first party! ( not OT as you will see below ) > My son's age is still slightly negative, but his movements are clearly > visible from a far now, and at the daily percussion lesson he listens > and answers like slightly positive aged citizens :-) > > is it my first kid? > until I was exactly 49 (7x7!), which was exactly when this astrologic > year started, > I suspected that in this life > my family was LOOP and > my kids were machines (PolySubbass, LOOP delay, Echoplex...) and > my younger looper friends would ease me if I'd grow old and lonely... > > but the pill failed and I am moved by the coincidence that: > while my old family is partying in Sana X (and in Norwich last week!) > we show off Icauê's Rick-green cozy room with the "uncle" made Dininho > and the Formula K cockpit and whatnot we got... to all the crazy and > beautiful improvisers and contact dancers and yoga teachers and... of > Salvador/Bahia !! > today I also ordered the british birth pool Bassine to slow down > Icaue's next heavy task sequence of moving out, unfold, feeling space, > feeling air, breathing... > > (in case you wonder how to say his name: its almost sung, since the > first and the last letter are equally accentuated. Just imagine the > flow from > I the input on top, through > C the neck with the blade, > A the center, > U the unknown and > E the event, exit, export!) > > so will I abandon my old family? will I loop the kid thing now? > I had a heavy problem that isolated me the last 5 years but it was > solved shortly after the y2k7 - with great help from Rick's huge good > will, understanding and insistence! > so the past months I have been programming day and night to bring > another kid to screen light and its also near, but it does not depend > just on me, patience... and don't expect too much, we had to move the > LOOP IV technology to the computer first and only the next version > will contain the new ideas... > we even want to build this new software into a new little box (sure: > no noise, stereo, flashcard... and still smaller and cheaper than the > EDP!) and even a HW prototype and money is available, but the project > might fail due to lack of administration capacity... > > at least, in free moments, I will work on video, sound and text > documentation about what we are doing, and try to follow the heavy > rhythm of this list again! > > sun is rising for the son > a huge hug to all of you and a big tatataaa to the loop activists and > Icaue! > Matthias > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 17:41:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E18E33BE7C; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61152.72.22.1224351682.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <48FA1550.3020401@hevanet.com> References: <48FA1550.3020401@hevanet.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:41:22 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:41:22 +0000 (UTC) Exciting news! Congrats. Look forward to hearing those first words.. "Loop Da.. Da.. Loop" :) Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Sat, October 18, 2008 12:56 pm, David Auker wrote: > One of the coolest announcements I've ever seen! Congrats 'n joy, > Matthias, Icauê! > > David > > Matthias Grob wrote: >> youhou! >> >> today is Icauê first party! ( not OT as you will see below ) >> My son's age is still slightly negative, but his movements are clearly >> visible from a far now, and at the daily percussion lesson he listens >> and answers like slightly positive aged citizens :-) >> >> is it my first kid? >> until I was exactly 49 (7x7!), which was exactly when this astrologic >> year started, >> I suspected that in this life >> my family was LOOP and >> my kids were machines (PolySubbass, LOOP delay, Echoplex...) and >> my younger looper friends would ease me if I'd grow old and lonely... >> >> but the pill failed and I am moved by the coincidence that: >> while my old family is partying in Sana X (and in Norwich last week!) >> we show off Icauê's Rick-green cozy room with the "uncle" made Dininho >> and the Formula K cockpit and whatnot we got... to all the crazy and >> beautiful improvisers and contact dancers and yoga teachers and... of >> Salvador/Bahia !! >> today I also ordered the british birth pool Bassine to slow down >> Icaue's next heavy task sequence of moving out, unfold, feeling space, >> feeling air, breathing... >> >> (in case you wonder how to say his name: its almost sung, since the >> first and the last letter are equally accentuated. Just imagine the >> flow from >> I the input on top, through >> C the neck with the blade, >> A the center, >> U the unknown and >> E the event, exit, export!) >> >> so will I abandon my old family? will I loop the kid thing now? >> I had a heavy problem that isolated me the last 5 years but it was >> solved shortly after the y2k7 - with great help from Rick's huge good >> will, understanding and insistence! >> so the past months I have been programming day and night to bring >> another kid to screen light and its also near, but it does not depend >> just on me, patience... and don't expect too much, we had to move the >> LOOP IV technology to the computer first and only the next version >> will contain the new ideas... >> we even want to build this new software into a new little box (sure: >> no noise, stereo, flashcard... and still smaller and cheaper than the >> EDP!) and even a HW prototype and money is available, but the project >> might fail due to lack of administration capacity... >> >> at least, in free moments, I will work on video, sound and text >> documentation about what we are doing, and try to follow the heavy >> rhythm of this list again! >> >> sun is rising for the son >> a huge hug to all of you and a big tatataaa to the loop activists and >> Icaue! >> Matthias >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 17:47:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68EEC3BE7C; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:47:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [71.212.42.31] X-Originating-Email: [j.easley@msn.com] X-Sender: j.easley@msn.com From: "Joshua & Jennifer Easley" To: References: <9ea2f30b0810180628y6e501bf0j470d40ca6c36beaa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MOTU tech support experience Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:47:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9310E.E90BAF10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2008 17:47:10.0332 (UTC) FILETIME=[8BB94BC0:01C93149] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:47:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9310E.E90BAF10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've had experiences exactly as you've described. . . =20 MOTU tech support (i.e. the lack thereof) is a notorious problem. I am a = former MOTU owner (828mk3), and used to frequent the user's blog, where = complaints like yours were often heard. I ultimately switched back to M-Audio, not least because their tech = support is reliably better. --Joshua=20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:28 AM Subject: MOTU tech support experience > In my adventures to loop my double bass I have attempted to get > support from MOTU regarding my ultralite. I submitted a 'techlink' > (their web based support) four days ago and have received no reply > yet. I also have attempted to call them 2-3 times throughout the past > four days when I have had the free time and I have always received a > busy signal. >=20 > I am not trying to bash MOTU. I like the ultralite but it has been > difficult for me to communicate or reach anyone in tech support to > help solve my problem. I thought I would share my experience so far > with everyone on the list so this information is out there and can be > taken into consideration. >=20 >=20 > Happy loopin' weekend, >=20 > Todd >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9310E.E90BAF10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've had experiences exactly as you've = described. .=20
 
MOTU tech support (i.e. the lack thereof) is a notorious problem. I = am a=20 former MOTU owner (828mk3), and=20 used to frequent the user's blog, where complaints like yours were = often=20 heard.
 
I ultimately switched back to M-Audio, = not least=20 because their tech support is reliably better.
 
--Joshua 
 
  
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Todd Matthews" <gtmatthews@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 6:28=20 AM
Subject: MOTU tech support=20 experience

> In my adventures to loop my double bass I have attempted = to=20 get
> support from MOTU regarding my ultralite. I submitted a=20 'techlink'
> (their web based support) four days ago and have = received no=20 reply
> yet. I also have attempted to call them 2-3 times = throughout the=20 past
> four days when I have had the free time and I have always = received=20 a
> busy signal.
>
> I am not trying to bash MOTU. I = like the=20 ultralite but it has been
> difficult for me to communicate or = reach=20 anyone in tech support to
> help solve my problem. I thought I = would share=20 my experience so far
> with everyone on the list so this = information is=20 out there and can be
> taken into consideration.
>
> =
>=20 Happy loopin' weekend,
>
> Todd
>=20
> ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C9310E.E90BAF10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 18:01:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB7C3BE7B; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:01:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:00:59 EDT Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc5.43c78625.362b7e5b_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:01:01 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cc5.43c78625.362b7e5b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matthias.....a big CONGRATS.....your excitment is contagious!.....wonderful.....i look forward to more good news.....michael "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) --part1_cc5.43c78625.362b7e5b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable matthias.....a big CONGRATS.....your ex= citment is contagious!.....wonderful.....i look forward to more good news...= ..michael

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Try it=20= out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000002) --part1_cc5.43c78625.362b7e5b_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 18 21:13:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6A2F3BE78; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=megJm0mO07dgH7H6EKCkYCA/LFAfoRdNhHFvaRIoRE4=; b=x09LndoDVIQgVWRmJG8nCZYMDedV/FEvZlxg/7MadUK1k0QM+JDYM0eHjdZ525Wig3 cFYxi/ZE/1o5PwflKox1Rh4ql/0vTM6x84s+m3/XLHotnhEvonvdBvczqdsev0aDNJjD uwxZ5hcPiGAebrzEfuqMSCsYro32r5b4xZNaE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=VGMhzbqIYDPtv+lnSeF1glogyimdzMJfw0Hoq8nvuOufjUTI5GYYmNbkpvPX734ovK grZd8MQlQ15+p2kGTLPRFXtM72jSTXfSydPEdrP1EVNBUVGpy4rEGD5/axw1Mcr0L3yZ sSVaH0xRxYn00sAfOXLIx7gr0DjKxuo2PZK0M= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810181413u3034bdbclcba94e0bff0e8571@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:13:45 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? In-Reply-To: <307627.83196.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ea2f30b0810151221s392610b0t6c29064dc5d8b55b@mail.gmail.com> <307627.83196.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:13:47 +0000 (UTC) I got the noise under control with the Fishman preamp. Thanks again for the advice Ted and Erik! There is still noise and hum but only if I crank the volume on the speakers. On my headphones I can hear it much easier but I think its because the are the type of headphones that cup your ear well to prevent leakage but then probably noise form the piezo pickup easier to hear. Is that just the nature of piezo pickups? Does anybody use some type of hum or noise eliminator for loud live gigs? Todd On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:40 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > > No problem, Todd. Glad I could help. > > As Eric emailed, Radial Engineering has some nice piezo-specific pre-amp's, > too. Heard nothing but good stuff about them as well. > > As I said about pre-amp's, p/u's are also very personal - I'm on a double > bassist list-serv and there are some guys that swear by their BP-100's, > which were probably one of the first piezo p/u's made. I had one and it > stunk. > > I've got a Revolution Solo that I bought used off Talkbass.com - > http://www.clefmusic.com/revolutionsolo.htm I'm happy with it but mainly I > don't have the time/energy/money to try a lot of different ones. One thing > I like about it is that it picks up noise from the bass' body - I've been > known to hit, slap, and beat my bass so I like it when that comes across. > > I'd be different if I was doing more "straight up" music but I'm mostly just > making noise, so one p/u's the same as another! > > Also, I'm not a laptop guy - I've got two loopers (a DL4 and an RC20xl) and > a mess of pedals (delays, pitch shifters, etc.) that I try to keep in arm's > reach so I can manipulate them whilst playing. > > Send me mp3's of yourself whenever you feel like it - I've got one or two > solo pieces on my myspace pag; I've got more but just can't be arsed to get > them up... I've also got some stuff of me playing electric but it's on DAT > and I need to get it converted. Once I get them together in one place, I'll > be happy to send you a copy. > > > ted. > Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog > > --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: > > From: Todd Matthews > Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? > To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com > Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:21 PM > > Thanks for the help, Ted. Once I get setup I'd love to send you some > mp3's and get your thoughts. I've been doing more testing and I think > the noise might be my ultralite. I realize with nothing pluged into > the unit, if I turn up the mic preamp gain it gets real noisy. It > didnt used to be like that so I think it might have gone bad sometime > over the past couple years. > > I'm going to take your advice and return the Sansamp and look for a > decent preamp. > > Now I gotta decide if I wanna stay on the computer path or not. It's > tempting to save for a RC-50 and just have that inbetween the preamp > and my bass amp. I've been trying to get the computer thing going for > a couple months now and its been a whole lot of troubleshooting and > very little music making. > > Thanks again for the hel, Ted. I'll send you an email to let you know > how it ends up. > > Charles - Thank you for the link. > It's actually very exciting to find > out about bass looping recordings and meet other bassists that do > this. Not disappointing. Then I know I'm not traveling down a dead end > road:) I had not heard of Todd Reynolds and Zoe Keating until recently > so didn't even realize until now ANY string players did this type of > thing. > > Todd > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM, ditch wrestler > wrote: >> >> Hi, Todd. We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so > thought >> I should speak up! >> >> I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from a pre-amp, as opposed > to a >> DI, which will boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, etc. >> which I think is there because you need to turn it up too much to get a >> decent signal into your ultralite. >> >> Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups. I know the >> Fishman > Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and generally highly >> recommended. >> > http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html. >> >> I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it. >> http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1. It > doesn't have >> an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big deal for me. >> >> I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to > email >> them to see if they recommend a certain unit. >> >> For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass - >> www.talkbass.com >> >> Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions. >> >> >> Ted. >> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >> >> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >> From: > Todd Matthews >> Subject: Looping upright bass? >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM >> >> I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into > a >> lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have >> been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my >> recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how >> to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm >> using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This >> sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I > can't >> play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much >> better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on >> each pass. >> >> I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds > great using a >> bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes >> between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. ( >> > http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html >> ) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live >> and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After >> doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug >> the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU >> ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still >> extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the >> noise gets multiplied. >> >> I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most >> pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound >> good plugged into my bass amp, > and I know my ultralite can sound good >> recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge >> the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the >> noise and/or hum. >> >> I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp >> into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into >> the ultralite without success either. >> >> >> Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a >> mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound >> playing the bass arco or pizz? >> >> Thank you in advance, >> >> Todd >> >> >> > > From karimabudou05@unimail.mn Sat Oct 18 21:25:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from qb-out-1314.google.com (qb-out-1314.google.com [72.14.204.173]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244923BE73 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qb-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id q13so962178qbq.26 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.52.9 with SMTP id z9mr6491791ebz.52.1224365132840; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.56.14 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2d8886cd0810181425h149c78c6oa27f6f83709b1d1b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:25:32 +0000 From: "Karim Abudou" Reply-To: karim_abudou123@yahoo.fr Subject: PLEASE I NEED YOUR REPLY VERY URGENT. 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Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless some body applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking guidelines and laws, but unfortunately i learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim. It is therefore upon this discovery that I now decided to make this business proposal to you so that the bank will release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and i don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill. The banking law and guiding here stipulates that if such money remained unclaimed after six years the money will be transferred into the bank treasury as unclaimed fund, the request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact that the customer was a foreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner. I agree that 30% of this money will be for you as a foreign partner, in respect to the provision of a foreign account, 10% will be set aside for expenses occurred during the business and 60% would be for me and my family. There after I and my family will visit your country for disbursement of the fund according to the percentage indicated. Now to enable the immediate transfer of the fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relation or next of kin of the deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location wherein the money will be remitted. Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text of the application. I will not fail to bring to your notice that this transaction is hitch -free so you should not entertain any atom of fear as all required information of the deceased indicate has been made for the transfer. * * You should contact me immediately as soon as you receive this letter.* * ** Yours Faithfully Bill & Exchange Manager. **Mr. Karim Abudou. * ------=_Part_123344_8920242.1224365132846 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

FROM THE BILL AND
EXCHANGE MANAGER AT THE
AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK
OUAGADOUGOU BURKINA FASO-WEST AFRICA .
 
Dear Friend,
 
I am the manager of bill and exchange at the foreign remittance department of AFICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK. I am writing, following the impressive information about you through one of my friend who WORKS with the BURKINA CHAMBERS firm.
 
In my department we discovered an abandoned sum of $6.5Million dollars (six million five hundred thousand US dollars)  in an account that belongs to one of our foreign customer who died along with his entire family in November 2003  in a plane crash.
 
Since we got information about his death, we have been expecting his next of kin to come over and claim his money because we cannot release it unless some body applies for it as next of kin or relation to the deceased as indicated in our banking  guidelines and laws, but unfortunately i learnt that all his supposed next of kin or relation died alongside  with him at the plane crash leaving nobody behind for the claim.
 
It is therefore upon this discovery that I now decided to make this business proposal to you so that the bank will release the money to you as the next of kin or relation to the deceased for safety and subsequent disbursement since nobody is coming for it and i don't want this money to go into the bank treasury as unclaimed bill.
 
The banking law and guiding here stipulates that  if such money remained unclaimed after six years the money will be transferred into the bank treasury as unclaimed fund,  the request of foreigner as next of kin in this business is occasioned by the fact  that the customer was a foreigner and a Burkinabe cannot stand as next of kin to a foreigner.
 
I agree that 30% of this money will be for you as a foreign partner, in respect  to the  provision of a foreign account, 10% will be set aside for expenses occurred during the business and 60% would be for me and my family.
 
There after I and my family will visit your country for disbursement of the fund according  to the percentage indicated.
 
Now to enable the immediate transfer of the fund to you as arranged, you must apply first to the bank as relation or next of kin of the deceased indicating your bank name, your bank account number, your private telephone and fax number for easy and effective communication and location wherein the money will be remitted.
 
Upon receipt of your reply, I will send to you by fax or email the text of the application. I will not fail to bring to your notice that this transaction is hitch  -free so you should not entertain any atom of fear as all required information of the deceased indicate has been made for the transfer. 


You should contact me immediately as soon as you receive this letter.

  
Yours Faithfully
Bill & Exchange Manager.
Mr. Karim Abudou.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C6527E.AE8904D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 00:33:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AE7B3BE7C; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DMmJ+HEAvLYpJM4IBIIqD0TOxbF6DuY/nToBlpc/sy4=; b=GvJjym+6eYQ5EjTTrfQ07b1vWqdOic5h5R+Cy0KnXl94diTzNYFjW95fVCcmaBfEa5 a9NoiJAafD+/mmDwTyexrXgxMDT6LhF42rokZCkEz18wupLCi5rzrREkgerOvqflv+L4 TxbTPZXGST05EJEi0unl/HrZ+m7XStkt4fSsQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=jEQSVrb3pXiYQbNYACaVN0A10vsfKZIQARCi3zSntFVFXWzu7agT+ysa/rwsCgiW/H xcyvtFja9WBPwMl7AddGmNBXm3SDspqZ6QHrabAPIDoOzQmlQIAJBul4egzKXv5Ohx4N SVkz9PfKn379eTMb2tGJE6VHq/pgCaWkTlThg= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810181733p5e2673d8pbc9984f5d48c868d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:33:31 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0810181413u3034bdbclcba94e0bff0e8571@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ea2f30b0810151221s392610b0t6c29064dc5d8b55b@mail.gmail.com> <307627.83196.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ea2f30b0810181413u3034bdbclcba94e0bff0e8571@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:33:36 +0000 (UTC) I did my first tests recording a bunch loops and the signal to noise ratio is still awlful even with a fishman preamp. If I set it to a level where the noise is not an issue the level of my recorded loops is much lower then the level of my bass playing. If I turn up the preamp to match level then the noise is pretty bad. I was curious as to anybody elses setup that is using a piezo pickup on an acoustic instrument that is successful looping live. I'm going to go back to practicing my looping with a mic and headphones because I can't seem to work out using a pickup and getting a clean signal into my computer. Could possibly be a problem with my audio interface... heres my signal flow so far D. Bass-Realist pickup-Fishman Pro EQ Platinum Pickup-Motu ultralite-Mac Mini Seems like so much gear and money when I type it out its a shame its sounds like poo:) The realist does sound great through my bass amp (pizz and arco) so maybe hardware might be the answer for me to make more music than troubleshoot. Todd On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I got the noise under control with the Fishman preamp. Thanks again > for the advice Ted and Erik! There is still noise and hum but only if > I crank the volume on the speakers. On my headphones I can hear it > much easier but I think its because the are the type of headphones > that cup your ear well to prevent leakage but then probably noise form > the piezo pickup easier to hear. Is that just the nature of piezo > pickups? Does anybody use some type of hum or noise eliminator for > loud live gigs? > > Todd > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:40 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: >> >> No problem, Todd. Glad I could help. >> >> As Eric emailed, Radial Engineering has some nice piezo-specific pre-amp's, >> too. Heard nothing but good stuff about them as well. >> >> As I said about pre-amp's, p/u's are also very personal - I'm on a double >> bassist list-serv and there are some guys that swear by their BP-100's, >> which were probably one of the first piezo p/u's made. I had one and it >> stunk. >> >> I've got a Revolution Solo that I bought used off Talkbass.com - >> http://www.clefmusic.com/revolutionsolo.htm I'm happy with it but mainly I >> don't have the time/energy/money to try a lot of different ones. One thing >> I like about it is that it picks up noise from the bass' body - I've been >> known to hit, slap, and beat my bass so I like it when that comes across. >> >> I'd be different if I was doing more "straight up" music but I'm mostly just >> making noise, so one p/u's the same as another! >> >> Also, I'm not a laptop guy - I've got two loopers (a DL4 and an RC20xl) and >> a mess of pedals (delays, pitch shifters, etc.) that I try to keep in arm's >> reach so I can manipulate them whilst playing. >> >> Send me mp3's of yourself whenever you feel like it - I've got one or two >> solo pieces on my myspace pag; I've got more but just can't be arsed to get >> them up... I've also got some stuff of me playing electric but it's on DAT >> and I need to get it converted. Once I get them together in one place, I'll >> be happy to send you a copy. >> >> >> ted. >> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >> >> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >> From: Todd Matthews >> Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? >> To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com >> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:21 PM >> >> Thanks for the help, Ted. Once I get setup I'd love to send you some >> mp3's and get your thoughts. I've been doing more testing and I think >> the noise might be my ultralite. I realize with nothing pluged into >> the unit, if I turn up the mic preamp gain it gets real noisy. It >> didnt used to be like that so I think it might have gone bad sometime >> over the past couple years. >> >> I'm going to take your advice and return the Sansamp and look for a >> decent preamp. >> >> Now I gotta decide if I wanna stay on the computer path or not. It's >> tempting to save for a RC-50 and just have that inbetween the preamp >> and my bass amp. I've been trying to get the computer thing going for >> a couple months now and its been a whole lot of troubleshooting and >> very little music making. >> >> Thanks again for the hel, Ted. I'll send you an email to let you know >> how it ends up. >> >> Charles - Thank you for the link. >> It's actually very exciting to find >> out about bass looping recordings and meet other bassists that do >> this. Not disappointing. Then I know I'm not traveling down a dead end >> road:) I had not heard of Todd Reynolds and Zoe Keating until recently >> so didn't even realize until now ANY string players did this type of >> thing. >> >> Todd >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM, ditch wrestler >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Todd. We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so >> thought >>> I should speak up! >>> >>> I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from a pre-amp, as opposed >> to a >>> DI, which will boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, etc. >>> which I think is there because you need to turn it up too much to get a >>> decent signal into your ultralite. >>> >>> Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups. I know the >>> Fishman >> Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and generally highly >>> recommended. >>> >> http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html. >>> >>> I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it. >>> http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1. It >> doesn't have >>> an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big deal for me. >>> >>> I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to >> email >>> them to see if they recommend a certain unit. >>> >>> For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass - >>> www.talkbass.com >>> >>> Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions. >>> >>> >>> Ted. >>> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >>> >>> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: >>> >>> From: >> Todd Matthews >>> Subject: Looping upright bass? >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM >>> >>> I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into >> a >>> lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have >>> been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my >>> recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how >>> to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm >>> using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This >>> sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I >> can't >>> play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much >>> better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on >>> each pass. >>> >>> I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds >> great using a >>> bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes >>> between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. ( >>> >> http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html >>> ) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live >>> and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After >>> doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug >>> the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU >>> ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still >>> extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the >>> noise gets multiplied. >>> >>> I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most >>> pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound >>> good plugged into my bass amp, >> and I know my ultralite can sound good >>> recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge >>> the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the >>> noise and/or hum. >>> >>> I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp >>> into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into >>> the ultralite without success either. >>> >>> >>> Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a >>> mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound >>> playing the bass arco or pizz? >>> >>> Thank you in advance, >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 00:55:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C3283BE7C; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Dk+oUU8pACNabcuqDnP6ApDJ+ni3RVsbvPh4R/fP0uc=; b=aTQmMAJM1VgVPXeqjgYIoHAXZeb7DLXOWeZPy94/petN6kZ28EZkkyUXjaVfa33TM3 R3y46E5X3bzM9Yu3qHNFxYIBfuOq7hiYKkMUqXziHgp04m1U575ErNxKZ3W7sSCyR45m BE3+Ifm1GgcH7AmhExi0tcqUyheztWcxRJx3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Y/wtf6fF4zM6HHJuB7KCm07KgdIH5mgWzdPT0eK9JFB0z58Ih7p7+idp3WGnIeoazz x7SvYeLCxVlzdtkQ/5MrHi+dHWaJmmLa10aJVaoA3xFQAnebWCfcWlrLY+1Jbhvu5NoN sZ8M2hK3m8EYszcPSBcS7UpwjeiTcEWwm4AyE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0810181733p5e2673d8pbc9984f5d48c868d@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ea2f30b0810151221s392610b0t6c29064dc5d8b55b@mail.gmail.com> <307627.83196.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ea2f30b0810181413u3034bdbclcba94e0bff0e8571@mail.gmail.com> <9ea2f30b0810181733p5e2673d8pbc9984f5d48c868d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:55:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 00:55:43 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 18, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > heres my signal flow so far > > D. Bass-Realist pickup-Fishman Pro EQ Platinum Pickup-Motu > ultralite-Mac Mini And you did rule out the ultralite as a noise source? BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 02:51:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAC0D3BE7B; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=XMy3I43fqyguOVld5Ol0SSeQSR2FirLb0IR6pbl+s0c0mKT0CLWSMfsoLlUgGQ9ul/tafzYy7euXQ1IMofS14Ewhtyea5NASyrnht4I1t8MSbEHUDqyVNQnZNKxS7/8aiEAcLvdKgqHJXZAt3CX7498nxLchzxppuj54+9hr3Hs=; X-YMail-OSG: OB_tJyMVM1n7yEEccAO6EFQ5Q8_qoMhOiIyKRfhyt4FZl3vV0SCktkiNoRsZFhy4nc3YWFOciveALrNkyyFI2HmePavcyk1UV.DUStm1NytlW2B._AGTjCC_J87F3r1FGT8YbyKtlcdoneeWGbqTzHntrmwY2p7UhDH.XqyKJXIbzh_R4UXwDMcn.dM- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.11 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:51:27 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <142242.75804.qm@web50308.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:51:28 +0000 (UTC) Just to address your basic question, I have a LR Baggs Element system on my acoustic guitar. It's the base model with only a piezo pickup in the bridge. And it sounds incredible direct into Mobius. Granted, I'm going direct using a Demeter Tube Direct box. And the Demeter is a tube unit and is definitely pricier than the Fishman unit you're using. But I've only got an ancient MOTU 828 mkI audio interface. There is nothing inherently bad or unusable about a piezo pickup. But you do need a pre-amp that is "voiced" for a piezo pickup. The LR Baggs sytem I have has an on-board preamp that is designed to make the piezo output sound good and natural. If that Realist system does not include a pre-amp, I would wonder the Fishman unit you have was meant to work with a piezo output. There are impedance issues, beside the obvious EQ stuff. I would not believe that the MOTU was the source of your problems unless it is a defective unit. -George ----- Original Message ---- From: Todd Matthews To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:33:31 PM Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? I did my first tests recording a bunch loops and the signal to noise ratio is still awlful even with a fishman preamp. If I set it to a level where the noise is not an issue the level of my recorded loops is much lower then the level of my bass playing. If I turn up the preamp to match level then the noise is pretty bad. I was curious as to anybody elses setup that is using a piezo pickup on an acoustic instrument that is successful looping live. I'm going to go back to practicing my looping with a mic and headphones because I can't seem to work out using a pickup and getting a clean signal into my computer. Could possibly be a problem with my audio interface... heres my signal flow so far D. Bass-Realist pickup-Fishman Pro EQ Platinum Pickup-Motu ultralite-Mac Mini Seems like so much gear and money when I type it out its a shame its sounds like poo:) The realist does sound great through my bass amp (pizz and arco) so maybe hardware might be the answer for me to make more music than troubleshoot. Todd On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > I got the noise under control with the Fishman preamp. Thanks again > for the advice Ted and Erik! There is still noise and hum but only if > I crank the volume on the speakers. On my headphones I can hear it > much easier but I think its because the are the type of headphones > that cup your ear well to prevent leakage but then probably noise form > the piezo pickup easier to hear. Is that just the nature of piezo > pickups? Does anybody use some type of hum or noise eliminator for > loud live gigs? > > Todd > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 7:40 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: >> >> No problem, Todd. Glad I could help. >> >> As Eric emailed, Radial Engineering has some nice piezo-specific pre-amp's, >> too. Heard nothing but good stuff about them as well. >> >> As I said about pre-amp's, p/u's are also very personal - I'm on a double >> bassist list-serv and there are some guys that swear by their BP-100's, >> which were probably one of the first piezo p/u's made. I had one and it >> stunk. >> >> I've got a Revolution Solo that I bought used off Talkbass.com - >> http://www.clefmusic.com/revolutionsolo.htm I'm happy with it but mainly I >> don't have the time/energy/money to try a lot of different ones. One thing >> I like about it is that it picks up noise from the bass' body - I've been >> known to hit, slap, and beat my bass so I like it when that comes across. >> >> I'd be different if I was doing more "straight up" music but I'm mostly just >> making noise, so one p/u's the same as another! >> >> Also, I'm not a laptop guy - I've got two loopers (a DL4 and an RC20xl) and >> a mess of pedals (delays, pitch shifters, etc.) that I try to keep in arm's >> reach so I can manipulate them whilst playing. >> >> Send me mp3's of yourself whenever you feel like it - I've got one or two >> solo pieces on my myspace pag; I've got more but just can't be arsed to get >> them up... I've also got some stuff of me playing electric but it's on DAT >> and I need to get it converted. Once I get them together in one place, I'll >> be happy to send you a copy. >> >> >> ted. >> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >> >> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: >> >> From: Todd Matthews >> Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? >> To: ditchwrestler@yahoo.com >> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 12:21 PM >> >> Thanks for the help, Ted. Once I get setup I'd love to send you some >> mp3's and get your thoughts. I've been doing more testing and I think >> the noise might be my ultralite. I realize with nothing pluged into >> the unit, if I turn up the mic preamp gain it gets real noisy. It >> didnt used to be like that so I think it might have gone bad sometime >> over the past couple years. >> >> I'm going to take your advice and return the Sansamp and look for a >> decent preamp. >> >> Now I gotta decide if I wanna stay on the computer path or not. It's >> tempting to save for a RC-50 and just have that inbetween the preamp >> and my bass amp. I've been trying to get the computer thing going for >> a couple months now and its been a whole lot of troubleshooting and >> very little music making. >> >> Thanks again for the hel, Ted. I'll send you an email to let you know >> how it ends up. >> >> Charles - Thank you for the link. >> It's actually very exciting to find >> out about bass looping recordings and meet other bassists that do >> this. Not disappointing. Then I know I'm not traveling down a dead end >> road:) I had not heard of Todd Reynolds and Zoe Keating until recently >> so didn't even realize until now ANY string players did this type of >> thing. >> >> Todd >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 2:24 PM, ditch wrestler >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, Todd. We might be the only two looping double-bassists here so >> thought >>> I should speak up! >>> >>> I think, first of all, you'd benefit more from a pre-amp, as opposed >> to a >>> DI, which will boost the signal and hopefully get rid of the hiss, etc. >>> which I think is there because you need to turn it up too much to get a >>> decent signal into your ultralite. >>> >>> Pre-amps are just as much of a personal choice as pick-ups. I know the >>> Fishman >> Pro-EQ Platinum Bass Preamplifier is popular and generally highly >>> recommended. >>> >> http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1407-FISHMAN_PRO_EQ_PLATINUM_BASS_PREAMPLIFIER.html. >>> >>> I've got an ART Tube MP pre-amp and pretty happy with it. >>> http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=79&cat=1&id=1. It >> doesn't have >>> an EQ (which the Fishman does) but that's not a big deal for me. >>> >>> I see that David Gage doesn't offer a pre-amp but you might want to >> email >>> them to see if they recommend a certain unit. >>> >>> For more help and info, check out the double bass forums at TalkBass - >>> www.talkbass.com >>> >>> Feel free to email me off-list if you've got more questions. >>> >>> >>> Ted. >>> Enemies are good for self-definition. Werner Herzog >>> >>> --- On Wed, 10/15/08, Todd Matthews wrote: >>> >>> From: >> Todd Matthews >>> Subject: Looping upright bass? >>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:05 AM >>> >>> I've been trying to get this work for awhile now and I've run into >> a >>> lot of trouble. Just to get the concepts down and to practice I have >>> been recording into a mac mini with an ultralite as this was my >>> recording setup before I tried looping. So far I've been learning how >>> to use sooperlooper with Ableton live and it sounds great but I'm >>> using a mic to record my bass and monitoring with headphones. This >>> sounds great now but won't work for live performance because I >> can't >>> play through speakers using a mic. I realize a pickup would be much >>> better for feedback and to keep the loops from being re-recorded on >>> each pass. >>> >>> I borrowed a friends Realist bass pickup which sounds >> great using a >>> bow or pizzicato through my bass amp! It is a piezo pickup that goes >>> between the top of the bass and under the foot of the bridge. ( >>> >> http://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/1428-REALIST_BASS_PICKUP_FOR_BASS_CELLO_OR_VIOLIN_VIOLA.html >>> ) When I tried plugging it into the MOTU ultralite to loop using Live >>> and Sooperlooper it sounded awful. (Hum, noise, pops crackles) After >>> doing some research I purchased a Sansamp Bass Driver DI box to plug >>> the bass into between the output of the Realist pickup and the MOTU >>> ultralite. Using it as a directbox sounded better but it is still >>> extremely noisy which won't work for looping. Every time I overdub the >>> noise gets multiplied. >>> >>> I really like the sound of the pickup as I mostly use the bow and most >>> pickups usually sound crappy with a bow. I know the pickup can sound >>> good plugged into my bass amp, >> and I know my ultralite can sound good >>> recording with a microphone so I guess I'm wondering how I can bridge >>> the gap and get the sound of the bass into my computer without all the >>> noise and/or hum. >>> >>> I also tried plugging into my amp and then plugging output of the amp >>> into the ultralite AND also going into my amp, into the DI box, into >>> the ultralite without success either. >>> >>> >>> Anybody have any advice on how I can loop upright bass without using a >>> mic (preferrably with this Realist pickup) and with quality sound >>> playing the bass arco or pizz? >>> >>> Thank you in advance, >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> >>> >> >> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Best Regards Barrister Michael Godspeed Notary Public & Solicitor E-mail: godspeed4us@post.ro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 11:26:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 609803BE79; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48FB1946.6040003@cruzio.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 04:25:58 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Y2K8 First Reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 11:26:03 +0000 (UTC) Nancy LeVAn, Bill Walker's (my brother's) wife turned to me tonight and said, "Is it just me or is something incredible happening tonight". The Saturday day and night concerts were just incredible tonight! They were, to my appreciation, the best concerts in the history of the festival. I'm just ridiculously burnt out, typing here at 4 a.m. in the morning after a day that didn't stop from 10 in the morning when I awoke until 1 a.m. when I finally left the venue (as the last person in). I'm even too tired to expound on each performer but Kevin Spears aka Kalimba Man, Ryusei Attritions, Isaac Frankle (aka Shovelman and a newbie), Amar Chaudry, Matt Davignon. Barry Cleveland, James Bailey, newbies, Jack Schultz and Bill Putnam (the latter who also had a technology premier with Max/MSP patches he designed to control the Looperlative( all had really strong shows. For me, standouts were Margaret Noble and my brother, Bill. I've seen Bill play so many times and tonight was one of the very best times I've ever seen him play. I had a blast myself and attempted an Orange Plastic only performance that was aided by my lucky ability to completely make the venue go completely black so that my black lights, the glow of the instruments, the glow of my orange hair and Oslo real time video animator, Peter Knusdens' were the only sourced of light. It was magical..............definitely a digital 'campfire'. Okay, to bed, to bed. There are 9loopers snoring at Bill's and my place as well as our wonderful and supportive artistic singer/songwriter wives. It's a wonderful feeling...........................12 more hours tomorrow. G'night! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 14:25:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F82C3BE7C; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:26:17 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo In-reply-to: <23141100.1224068380914.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <48FB4389.1030003@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> <23141100.1224068380914.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > I've just uploaded a new recording of a recent performance of the > vocal / tape echo which hopefully doesn't contain the same distortion! > Check it out here: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IdLtfWhYvs Much better. It must have been some room node at the camer's mic position that made the other video's sound so offensive to my ears. Yet once again this new video's muffled sound points up the problem of the microphone on the camera not being in the best position to maximize the sound in a good way. I look forward to when you have the opportunity to sync the multitrack recording to the video. *THAT* will be magnificent. > And a better hammered dulcimer/electric violin/flute one using Boss > RC-50 Looping Station: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUDdob-Hew Outstanding performance. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 14:36:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D99E13BE7F; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=pjf3JTtKlSrZRHmTpDYhxwLMF0zI+cHpUIdigVsH8Io=; b=xzluRYmmfWaemMdNcW8JzXJo4XR4juiQsXKmlklx9kZkVVRaZkSsBniy9efwFKMaGJ qmLKBF6gI60eeVitf3rShB4GxQs2FLGV4KNaAWmaFPYgP7DOvS/2sBlPm3EgjmE1HQPa GbIfrkbTHlwLWyawgMaTFlv306EIpp7+UARxE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=eNk/iNK7A1slCE7ouucOrfcx8VWW7jVgnIgqvjV975IPkorwgkn/DxwrE9yYNGdSyZ O1RLhpXNNIHlDECYkXkqlMYebQpL57Y8jU1zi+NSO5L6rIo6vJpAqCk2+7uLa9VdgiHl anZlm4VsqjeNF0R0dJTF8B7wtmVMLPKBi+YGc= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810190736g3e784f27o8c8ac1b4aa5060f6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:36:03 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Vocal tape echo In-Reply-To: <48FB4389.1030003@soundscapes.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_36388_18537952.1224426963239" References: <8940240.1223645529298.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F234C9.2060909@soundscapes.us> <24044524.1223833024415.JavaMail.root@m05> <48F23E78.6000404@soundscapes.us> <23141100.1224068380914.JavaMail.root@m05> <48FB4389.1030003@soundscapes.us> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:36:04 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_36388_18537952.1224426963239 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thank you very much Bill! I'll let you know when I get the Pro Tools session synched up to it ... you know what it's like getting round to doing things for yourself (always last on the list!). Thank you for your helpful comments :) K x -- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope 2008/10/19 Bill Fox > Kayla Kavanagh wrote: > >> I've just uploaded a new recording of a recent performance of the vocal / >> tape echo which hopefully doesn't contain the same distortion! Check it out >> here: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IdLtfWhYvs >> > Much better. It must have been some room node at the camer's mic position > that made the other video's sound so offensive to my ears. Yet once again > this new video's muffled sound points up the problem of the microphone on > the camera not being in the best position to maximize the sound in a good > way. I look forward to when you have the opportunity to sync the multitrack > recording to the video. *THAT* will be magnificent. > >> And a better hammered dulcimer/electric violin/flute one using Boss RC-50 >> Looping Station: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUDdob-Hew >> > Outstanding performance. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > ------=_Part_36388_18537952.1224426963239 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Thank you very much Bill!

I'll let you know when I get the Pro Tools session synched up to it ... you know what it's like getting round to doing things for yourself (always last on the list!).

Thank you for your helpful comments :)

K x
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FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016
Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com/Kaleidoscope

2008/10/19 Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us>
Kayla Kavanagh wrote:
I've just uploaded a new recording of a recent performance of the vocal / tape echo which hopefully doesn't contain the same distortion! Check it out here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IdLtfWhYvs
Much better.  It must have been some room node at the camer's mic position that made the other video's sound so offensive to my ears.  Yet once again this new video's muffled sound points up the problem of the microphone on the camera not being in the best position to maximize the sound in a good way.  I look forward to when you have the opportunity to sync the multitrack recording to the video.  *THAT* will be magnificent.

And a better hammered dulcimer/electric violin/flute one using Boss RC-50 Looping Station:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mUDdob-Hew
Outstanding performance.

Cheers,

Bill





------=_Part_36388_18537952.1224426963239-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 15:06:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71DE33BE7C; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:06:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=BEK15muujV0BkY/engfGbm5nXUFODPdYAsHefn3SMlk=; b=PQl7G6SmXrU6dGewWjmLP/UEv5WzGx9KN2HzOcT9obIPAP6hQEGA+ngGXzHFzxfLo1 EKWZ45pWkTHQYtlKX2CoK99Wd1GW0cnq7oXUEm+NbBad3Clb3EUWWEoalOU7FZz6E6M3 ed9jR2RYGbhmdoeEvelcaae7XTqtCBqKsAtok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qNXHEfWZbpp7F1lpBbzchG9gJJU26UjeM4G+uairLgLQ9SMF1hAczscdogL8BC7NEY 7PjMcn/fkMZctJb+A+8U/yXQc3n+t3nQM3ZAPz2HSqNUaY/BjjqTQ8A/REv1la+Gipe9 fxvkM8690YFHwnzp7mTQ+AuqwFrh9nmBaqaXU= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:06:29 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue In-Reply-To: <002c01c931ba$b797b260$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_57671_33037771.1224428789735" References: <002c01c931ba$b797b260$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:06:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_57671_33037771.1224428789735 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Congrats Matthias!Keep the good work. You made our lives more complete when the EDP came to life! All the best hero! Ra=FCl. 2008/10/19 Michael Peters > wonderful ... I hope you'll introduce us via Skype ... :-) -Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthias Grob [mailto:matilists@atarde.com.br] > > Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:32 AM > > To: Loop List > > Cc: Tim Crowe > > Subject: Echoplex's brother Icaue > > > > youhou! > > > > today is Icau=EA first party! > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_57671_33037771.1224428789735 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Congrats Matthias!
Keep the good work.
You m= ade our lives more complete
when the EDP came to life!
<= div>
All the best hero!
Ra=FCl.

2008/10/19 Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>
wonde= rful ... I hope you'll introduce us via Skype ... :-)  -Michael

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 10:32 AM
> To: Loop List
> Cc: Tim Crowe
> Subject: Echoplex's brother Icaue
>
> youhou!
>
> today is Icau=EA first party!




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------=_Part_57671_33037771.1224428789735-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 17:01:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 992743BE79; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:01:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224435697; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=oVl2O8H0hy+MZiDXEuVlrWHI0zc=; b=F/qbFORa3xoAYxB0dBz0AfzO5DXNIyRJlx4FgLvPKK7I4ul33KNP5SbxqJzInrEE 6e76gV95ke3t1wNCztUkaWrCcGUKZgoXDXX9lkPXY7XP4NyMtN9FpAPraARqpupl; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SEqvwvelAAAA:8 a=iEcDebTSlqO-26fEb-oA:9 a=Et038gKPCdZ_JrJBLmsA:7 a=JNd_2gz7rhs3VKRsaL_fxP97Dz0A:4 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=ziFrdkHw70AA:10 a=UY55XKaLhBbCB7hgZZcA:9 a=AlU5tSquaKwoB5gbHl4A:7 a=g5IraopPjmibHEawzUMqQ6kro_EA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000b01c9320c$593a2930$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: bbe sonic maximizer Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:01:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C931EA.D15B9C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:01:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C931EA.D15B9C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does someone here have ant experience with the bbe sonic maximizer? http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp I have not tried one but it was recomended as a "final finish" product. = I like my sound now but always look for a little more......zing or = something, I dunno.... off list replies are good. Thanks, Jeff jeff_d@embarqmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C931EA.D15B9C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Does someone here have ant experience = with the bbe=20 sonic maximizer?
 
http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp
 
I have not tried one but it was = recomended as a=20 "final finish" product. I like my sound now but always look for a little = more......zing or something, I dunno....
 
off list replies are good. =20 Thanks,
 
Jeff
 
 
jeff_d@embarqmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C931EA.D15B9C40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 17:12:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 753673BE7C; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SEqvwvelAAAA:8 a=LE5qBdr5hFzhsdXDYFYA:9 a=cDZsxxohyAnS5XlnjzIA:7 a=zZT2nfGUGeDJQXcbrF3hJscNK70A:4 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=2uiCRmbCp6AA:10 a=sm7Bzd030FoD2M4W4hwA:9 a=2HZNeC3yP9wC9N8YocMA:7 a=rFcGcbjBcFB3sp58RLL62DQeypAA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 In-Reply-To: <000b01c9320c$593a2930$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000b01c9320c$593a2930$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--831481717 Message-Id: <8E9E126B-2073-4104-A1DF-1D1160C14A27@comcast.net> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:12:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:12:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--831481717 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Had one. Sold it. Need is debatable, results are questionable. High end versions are used in mastering, but imho, a waste of money and rack space. On Oct 19, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Does someone here have ant experience with the bbe sonic maximizer? > > http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp > > I have not tried one but it was recomended as a "final finish" > product. I like my sound now but always look for a little > more......zing or something, I dunno.... > > off list replies are good. Thanks, > > Jeff > > > jeff_d@embarqmail.com --Apple-Mail-1--831481717 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Had one. Sold it. Need is=A0debatable, results are questionable.=A0High = end versions are used in mastering, but imho, a waste of money and rack = space.=A0
On Oct 19, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote:

Does someone here have ant experience with the bbe sonic = maximizer?
=A0
=A0
I have not tried one but it was recomended as = a "final finish" product. I like my sound now but always look for a = little more......zing or something, I dunno....
=A0
off list replies are good.=A0 Thanks,
=A0
Jeff
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= --Apple-Mail-1--831481717-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 17:42:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D4013BE78; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 380063.31958.bm@omp209.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=i5grxBdUZMvMxZ1h2KGGELrRM6LhJjFKDlnaQc47O0LDYoaPOrvXDX4E529C1nTuUNeilt0lugKq3ak9xr4qVgeW2HVaB5J0btXH/p3FMRYF/vv/4ia7ESRVHoTWwIjYqRbzSGKkBGvjAO3qK89a4hnvuXBresnY/4myWCuFFsI=; X-YMail-OSG: 48yK8DkVM1lOmwnNsMMf4Zmqg49dIWAcj0wiSKW4ctqdWqlt22Z_3lhvUoEPqK7DIvE1.s39cYuPWAMoxPj_xzDiuy1kV3MvYBfSV3JGb.bvcx1QlOMqnVvT.wrgxOrRULBjCqvngESlsX05TMbIClkqpMitNkBa3ko34oA7vlaxuPF4m1j_ryAhuUE4 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:42:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8E9E126B-2073-4104-A1DF-1D1160C14A27@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <250901.7993.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:42:11 +0000 (UTC) They've made several versions, and the one Jeff's considering is the pedal. I've got one of the rackmount versions, and haven't really used it in quite a long time. I found that a lot of the mixes I used it on (mostly in the late 80's/early 90's) had a real harshness to the high end that was pretty abrasive. It was probably not as much the fault of the BBE as the inaccurate monitors I was using to master, but I was finding that if I brought it up to the point where I heard any difference at all while mastering, it was too much when played back on other systems. I do know a lot of folks swear by 'em, though, and my first thought when I look at that pedal version (never having used it) is that as part of a pedal chain it might be useful to bring in (or out, with the stomp of the switch) some presence lost through the other pedals. Similarly, I sometimes use a Boss Acoustic Simulator pedal not to make an electric sound like an acoustic (it doesn't), but as a way to set up two distinct foot-switchable tone settings, like one would do with EQ or by selecting pickups. -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Sun, 10/19/08, Chris Sewell wrote: > From: Chris Sewell > Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 1:12 PM > Had one. Sold it. Need is debatable, results are > questionable. High > end versions are used in mastering, but imho, a waste of > money and > rack space. > On Oct 19, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > > > Does someone here have ant experience with the bbe > sonic maximizer? > > > > > http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp > > > > I have not tried one but it was recomended as a > "final finish" > > product. I like my sound now but always look for a > little > > more......zing or something, I dunno.... > > > > off list replies are good. Thanks, > > > > Jeff > > > > > > jeff_d@embarqmail.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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It was so great to finally meet you and have some ext'd time over those yummy Dosa's. Next time you will play with us. I'll mention to my buddy jeff about you're wnating to network a bit. Best Jim On 10/18/08, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hey All, I have three words; SEE CHINA PAINTING!!!!!!!!!!!! :) > Aside from the fact that their show is terrific, with a mix of crazy, > squiggly loopage as well as more 'straight-forward,' tonal, soulful, > beautiful music, they're simply just great peeps! -And you should go > and SHOW THEM SERIOUS LOVE!!!! :) :) > > they rock and they're way fun, SO GO!!! lol! > > Echo Curio was a blast and it was lovely to be able to catch up > with Jim and Daryl for a wonderful lunch earlier today. :) J and D, > you two are super fab! Come back soon, K?=85 > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > > On Oct 16, 2008, at 8:11 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > >> Chinapainting begins a 5 show tour in California today. >> >> We have the following gigs... >> >> 10/16 Echo Curio, LA (echo park), 8pm >> 10/17 Saturation Fest/Pharoah's Den, Riverside, 8pm >> 10/18 m2 Wines, Lodi (Sacramento), 11am-4pm >> 10/19 Y2K8 Int'l Live Looping Festival, Santa Cruz, 8pm >> 10/20 SMF Music Series Java Lounge, Sacramento, 830pm >> >> Should you be near come see us. >> >> Jim www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> www. 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SOURCE OF= FUNDS:

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------=_Part_73717_12186910.1224450833549-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 22:01:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90A953BE7F; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:01:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=MAEhOwcBV6cgs0pdIgWuVfYoK9CYFhxs+dUZq6+0l8I=; b=Ja+tECoFezk0pPgq1tmpv+zNPv3HjKYAT30rC10t0gyjZbMalaGEcJEWuZlWLP2Fn0 Ako7cvjjgAsmRaZ+kK4wLG5AznlE0He3Dd1MuiBQ44swTurJIcydCgTBMngafpPkKUDg f1RvnKx9qH74HB9CIiOfrTl6eJqHzGPlzG+C4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=Tc1B9QBReaDspAu+4Js2K0ahw3SKZ73PI6r7cUr/kiVpexJM6/9T6CpqTmA7NNT1a9 Fz2xdnbPSuNJD5ODng6MMJEe+JCt98QVoGH/UOxDo8oMt7Sa2lxPXchDS+ujUHPxJepZ fM9deyB1BKkTYLluqPlvT08XprrSgg1Qz94sM= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 00:01:54 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_104663_20423540.1224453714525" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0d69fa5a80e43468 Resent-Message-ID: <70GAoC.A.wUD.U56-IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:01:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_104663_20423540.1224453714525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi! I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel.... I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healin= g loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has bee= n undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer. Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling throug= h any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other side of the planet can have an effect too... Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. Mark --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_104663_20423540.1224453714525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for priva= cy issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cr= uz RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel....

I h= ope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/heali= ng loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has = been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, a= t precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be p= ut to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly in= to the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremel= y controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cance= r.
Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at = that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travel= ling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch i= t on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, j= ust maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the oth= er side of the planet can have an effect too...

Have a great show gu= ys, and wish us luck.

Mark
--
www.markfranco= mbe.com
http://= uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no
------=_Part_104663_20423540.1224453714525-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 22:12:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA1AE3BE78; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=j1EDDjpDCXctvii/SlWXLeBDSeU1SQeaGokhgKShmR8p+9r4ov1EWybwpDpqHvjJrgTGqNG6ixZefPP9QMujgXNKnscFLiL6/42sVE4/5EBpdHN0l/pdd0+8/BU/MveElpay855Jfg/ZBFgTtbMwuXHinBJdf8x9prskf6yuyWo= ; X-YMail-OSG: v2WUU8oVM1krG2.1s98vuLN_.DkMLw2geZJ8vfDXCvUJxpre5QI34p9Ltnmzx0xtD1Rl3A0yttC78SLT8ZXF5lm3sWZyL_jK.jTwGNQIsX_bftFKnDtMie45jFPFd.l4TINphxNYE.Ghm59jabsNyczBNv7sz5j9gtOLbQMscyBBmP6Drg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001d01c93237$c88db510$0501a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:12:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C93240.297B9330" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:12:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C93240.297B9330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thoughts and prayers are with you, Mark. Take care, Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: loopers-delight=20 Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Hi! I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with = all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where = I should be playing, but had to cancel.... I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping = prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love = Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks = now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances = at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano = robot inserted directly into the center of the tumour that is in her = cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and directed beams of = radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer. Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior = doctor as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at = that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not = travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they = can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, = just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the = other side of the planet can have an effect too... Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. Mark=20 --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1732 - Release Date: = 18/10/2008 18:01 ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C93240.297B9330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thoughts and prayers are with you,=20 Mark.
 
Take care,
 
Ricky
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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 = 11:01=20 PM
Subject: Call to Santa Cruz = loopers to=20 send a healing loop!

Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for = privacy=20 issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa = Cruz=20 RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel....

I = hope=20 that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healing = loop out=20 with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has been = undergoing=20 Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely = the=20 same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put to = sleep, and=20 have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the = center of the=20 tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and = directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
Called = Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor as = "not=20 unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game! = Anyway,=20 the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling through = any=20 organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT = monitor,=20 and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrible spacy = or new-agey=20 or religeos person, but maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops = emanating=20 from almost directly the other side of the planet can have an effect=20 too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.

Mark =
--=20
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
www.looop.no

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 22:36:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 152653BE85; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zHgvoi8KM72wsTNdBn8aA+NGgBrNI/slWEkAC6DFUWw=; b=enl7IVKHu35/RyhUut+4i5VkRdY+lD3/h3ebzNGGHruG7BNmokz4ppb/lfSjIXFzZe ipM2ABJEerKW6PfNYgmiDwJ+kPe4tLxg0fhGce1rQhPcDWghi75y8rM5PxsADpmkYKg/ akv+fYoQbfwAV3a53EeAOwVaWYYQI3V7t+Hkg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=JyT79+Z+UdGcpRY3FyZF+HL6hOCinon0+t8p4NeNQxLIxOIoqSV4j3WKyof5YQ8sg5 5zeBP3WooRzoo2HvLI3dAVkjyBmbg9QdLL8O0w/9kl8Ij9mIPM2lw+ykz8ED6Fqn+21B 8fotHvw9IXeNhzX6OBS6YJZHeR+81xP2+mAhs= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810191536t64608619x9a93ce55b91ff69b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:36:30 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4_il6B.A.PqE.vZ7-IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Mark there is good energy here I can personally report. Hopefully it will emit in a healing positive direction to your wife. I'm sorry your amily is going through this right now but sending poitive thoughts from santa cruz. Peace Jim On 10/19/08, mark francombe wrote: > Hi! > > I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with al= l > my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I > should be playing, but had to cancel.... > > I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/heal= ing > loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has b= een > undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at > precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be p= ut > to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly int= o > the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely > controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cance= r. > Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor= as > "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game! > Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling thro= ugh > any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT > monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. > > I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, jus= t > maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other > side of the planet can have an effect too... > > Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. > > Mark > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From nikolaysints6@gmail.com Sun Oct 19 22:54:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.226]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 331D13BE78 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id a10so1228015qbd.21 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:54:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=yuw914M4swgwIKBK4xJmmgEM20CSH2XavrGtelkTcRs=; b=L2p2bpbb+lnzFGd9BCQ9+Ox11HOr7T+2l1n560dQ96XiBTymW0dKgiFFOnmiM746b+ DO8HVLOPV+sN1SIzpe6MJunU4K9/uBw1DH5xoGe1tWo6M7vKYFf8mw3SvRibUN/LENxz cOL0TQH0tgeXCRm6y7XzaQJaT12osSSP5bCoA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=TuIo90LY2CV8cjRmNy07MtNHgfHSKSB847BApdXuRXCdIUqx7xPHQP6OAizPJ2dxQY Jpe34gCacr9NPpjWWATwAJqSbLMWlMSw4O6W85j9c3O6Z77SNlNaIxjdXA1XTU/+0mbm 7azWnlHTvrIMBxCZEY6KdicAIIMmNhs6MQvfk= Received: by 10.114.193.1 with SMTP id q1mr4870266waf.70.1224456842061; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.193.18 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 15:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7284fd50810191554u3671fbe9u63c06328069c219f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:54:02 +0000 From: "nikolay sintsov" Reply-To: nikosint@voila.fr Subject: READ AND GET BACK TO ME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2560_31824326.1224456842074" To: undisclosed-recipients:; ------=_Part_2560_31824326.1224456842074 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Good day, I am Nikolay Sintsov,personal assistant to Mikhail Khodorkovsky,once rated as the richest man in Russia and owner of YUKOS OIL (Russian largest oil company),chairman CEO: Menatep SBP Bank (a well reputable financial institution with its branches all over the world). 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------=_Part_2560_31824326.1224456842074-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 23:35:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7395E3BE84; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Dave Gallaher" To: Subject: RE: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:35:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C93219.7FEF9A30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AckyNk5Mzt5ftjNESn2iDziKzhUFiwADJ+ew Message-Id: <20081019233550.F07FE3BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:35:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C93219.7FEF9A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are more prayers and wishes for the success of this therapy, from = the Deep South. I haven=92t previously heard of this technique, but it = sounds like it would have great potential for on-target treatment. =20 =20 I pray for you peace of mind as well, Mark. =20 Respects, =20 dave=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Hi! I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with = all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel.... I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping = prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has = been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be = put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly = into the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit = extremely controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened = cancer. Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior = doctor as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that = game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling = through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, = just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the = other side of the planet can have an effect too... Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. Mark=20 --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C93219.7FEF9A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Here are more prayers and wishes = for the success of this therapy, from the Deep = South.=A0 I haven’t previously heard of this technique, but it sounds like = it would have great potential for on-target treatment.=A0 =

 

I pray for you peace of mind as = well, Mark.

 

Respects,=

 

dave

 

=

 

=

 

 

Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with = all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I = should be playing, but had to cancel....

I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping = prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has = been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be = put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into = the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened = cancer.
Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior = doctor as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at = that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not = travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it = on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, = just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other side = of the planet can have an effect too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.

Mark
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
www.looop.no

------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C93219.7FEF9A30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 23:49:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A47233BE86; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61379.72.22.1224460185.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 19:49:45 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Donawa?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Thoughts and Prayers from Barbados. Hope for the best, Andre http://www.andredonawa.com http://cdbaby.com/all/andredonawa http://www.myspace.com/andredonawa On Sun, October 19, 2008 6:01 pm, mark francombe wrote: > Hi! > > I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with all > my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I > should be playing, but had to cancel.... > > I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping > prayer/healing > loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has > been > undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at > precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be > put > to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into > the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely > controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened > cancer. > Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor > as > "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game! > Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling > through > any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT > monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. > > I´m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just > maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other > side of the planet can have an effect too... > > Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. > > Mark > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 19 23:50:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA5363BE89; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:50:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Txr67PcDsr9Ua/KF2hWHWLFTmlLkY0NV01AD+VfHT35Mur/7MRAfp2C4/If0ixV/WIkqKAaSqo6VpYZOYI6yWHkZiPIuozcYSPMx5OLvg+GM5+0KHlJkFunKtQ63vmpTaDkFnPW+Dt229kGGmOFtPEC5nlqc0/ubYiKn9dWLtRM=; X-YMail-OSG: 7ksYY8oVM1lkeudiExS_M6Wp7NMzJ_3ua2eGo65z3pJQcRR3RjTlqlSjmKlC9RxA20ibBTtAuM66J2SEk36ZaNKFZx_9wpDSm2LacjLxgsmkJFmf5EUuFOZUiYGpEjGZbdhn7_ZBjZ4pEtQ1yxDH5mF9eAwZYcsEwwHDkfbNbCIPIlBIZoMKw_UUSKn9 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 16:49:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1647697433-1224460199=:19637" Message-ID: <680618.19637.qm@web42102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 23:50:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1647697433-1224460199=:19637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Prayers for healing and peace of mind coming your way, Mark, and energy for= the treatment going well. Jonathan --- On Sun, 10/19/08, mark francombe wrote: From: mark francombe Subject: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! To: "loopers-delight" Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 3:01 PM Hi! I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with all = my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I shou= ld be playing, but had to cancel.... I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healin= g loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has b= een undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at= precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be pu= t to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly int= o the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely= controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer= . Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game!= Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling throu= gh any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT = monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just = maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other s= ide of the planet can have an effect too... Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. Mark=20 --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --0-1647697433-1224460199=:19637 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Prayers for healing and peace of mind co= ming your way, Mark, and energy for the treatment going well.
Jonathan

--- On Sun, 10/19/08, mark francombe <mark@ma= rkfrancombe.com> wrote:
From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>Subject: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop!
To: "loope= rs-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Sunday, Oc= tober 19, 2008, 3:01 PM

Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy= issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz= RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel....

I hop= e that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healing loo= p out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has been u= ndergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at prec= isely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put to = sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the= center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely cont= rolled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
= Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game!= Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on= a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrib= le spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just maybe, all those g= ood vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other side of the planet = can have an effect too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.<= BR>
Mark
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtub= e.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.l= ooop.no
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 01:41:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28A543BE80; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=nq6vQUnVd9D4AUPasQ+SOCrn4+TtQ2SGS4IuKQlJMI5dmryMtl6Faj9VafBHUAFOdAyBwF4Rzm52t9VK35jq04siWoub4BGyt4bimsVoMVGaeR1TSWRH8p0v/HO1wImk/mP/BvzNmiBuu6sHF/QYSllWN6HvU0xMjS9MI0CHO84=; X-YMail-OSG: 4WQ0Xq0VM1mcQYcElqHPpM4q.u_MEPt3bjvb0uPCtbQ_YbY5bf7S2L3p.O2H2DR0jhwxo4y7lp6fz1mxxcR5m8L4ej2I6BEPiX8Ge8uC48qknVD4xciZAgzqBLpqCo996T8Rq.E9s3iwNGssjRoz9V29WknY7IwVoNKV8TS4zQTo43sRz6vuSp_R6m0- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:41:37 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: My Experience of Y2K8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-160107205-1224466897=:38710" Message-ID: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:41:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-160107205-1224466897=:38710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Everybody, Just made it home from the long drive. So, glad I went for it and got the chance to participate in this festival. I was blown away by the diversity and quality of work I saw. From sound-art, to experimental, to rock, to acoustic and all unified by the magical loop! The vibe of the musicians and audience at the studio was glowingly positive, filled openness and interest. This was truly a new music conference and I learned much from this experience! Thank you all for sharing your work and energy in this festival, I feel very happy that I had the chance to participate!!!!!!!! HTTP://MARGARETNOBLE.NET/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-160107205-1224466897=:38710 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hello Everybody,

Just made it home from the long drive. So, glad I went for it and got the chance to participate in this festival. I was blown away by the diversity and quality of work I saw. From sound-art, to experimental, to rock, to acoustic and all unified by the magical loop!

The vibe of the musicians and audience at the studio was glowingly positive, filled openness and interest. This was truly a new music conference and I learned much from this experience! Thank you all for sharing your work and energy in this festival, I feel very happy that I had the chance to participate!!!!!!!!

 
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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-160107205-1224466897=:38710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 02:02:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A31B3BE85; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:02:28 EDT Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1224468148" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 5000 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <0SqUOD.A.3DE.3a--IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 02:02:31 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1224468148 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not in Santa Cruz unfortunately but thoughts and prayers coming to you and =20 Hilde from New York City. =20 Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 =20 =20 In a message dated 10/19/2008 6:02:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =20 mark@markfrancombe.com writes: Hi! I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with all=20 my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I shou= ld=20 be playing, but had to cancel.... I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healin= g=20 loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has bee= n=20 undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at=20 precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put= to=20 sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the= =20 center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely contr= olled=20 and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer. Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s=20 "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game!=20 Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling throug= h=20 any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT=20 monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just=20 maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other s= ide=20 of the planet can have an effect too... Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. Mark=20 -- =20 _www.markfrancombe.com_ (http://www.markfrancombe.com/)=20 _http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe_=20 (http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe)=20 _http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe_ (http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe= )=20 _www.looop.no_ (http://www.looop.no/)=20 **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination.= =20 Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out=20 (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=3Demlcntnew00000002) -------------------------------1224468148 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not in Santa Cruz unfortunately but thoughts and prayers coming to you=20= and=20 Hilde from New York City.
 
Harry=20 Weinberg, Esq.
Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
11 Beach Street - 8th=20 Floor
New York, N.Y. 10013
(212) 989-2908=20
 
In a message dated 10/19/2008 6:02:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20 mark@markfrancombe.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>
Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privac= y=20 issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz= =20 RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel....

I hop= e=20 that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healing loop= out=20 with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has been underg= oing=20 Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the= =20 same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, an= d=20 have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center of= the=20 tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and=20 directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
Called=20 Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor as "not= =20 unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game! Anywa= y,=20 the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling through any=20 organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT monito= r,=20 and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrible spacy or ne= w-agey=20 or religeos person, but maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops emana= ting=20 from almost directly the other side of the planet can have an effect=20 too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.

Mark
--= =20
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/us= er/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markf= rancombe
www.looop.no



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-------------------------------1224468148-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 04:58:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C7E73BE87; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=OKAMOBN81GYZRQ7qTC3rJSI96dVBGtudZ4gtLCm1Etk=; b=AD7Rr8IXDimPA82dgI8ZzdTJrM8kfhKIHeZxmJJGvmzFESERprDYzgRDdyJMLKjRoE YoT5aTXnJaOUd+y9WIUDiSJjtllVUnhi5fcS0rgB25RFmzGvdIiUS4mpgHydhrGuApKP 0Lszb2k1tY7+SYjYgM3CIdqb1PeB7DbNbszo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qlQB+U4QaFN2g35tbwg3W4Djk9pfd9wn795NYDp0GPtmPhTS7gPO513TYXJUslFTwD jY/on8N/9y8Vj6aIlxEkgZ0ZGGSgybNvVOZsqJE4P9dVHDuLmXPLnmncQ6asbvhewv9G pxGb9YT4HVmaA7UODQ/7GSuz1U4ZDT40bwAt8= Message-ID: <4759e5740810192158j7660269am3ba0dd3e95c84cac@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 21:58:50 -0700 From: "todd reynolds" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_102466_17489015.1224478730366" References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8UUcvB.A.Wg.LAB_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 04:58:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_102466_17489015.1224478730366 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Mark, I'll light a proverbial candle and keep you both in my deepest thoughts and prayers, sending out energy for the best of results and peace for both of you. We're all here as you can see, and thank you for sharing. It is a privilege to be included in yours and Hilde's story. May the strength of our collective focus support your already strong and committed spirits. Best, Todd On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:01 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Hi! > > I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with al= l > my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I > should be playing, but had to cancel.... > > I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping > prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love > Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks no= w > and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2= K8, > she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inser= ted > directly into the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will > emit extremely controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully > weakened cancer. > Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor > as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that ga= me! > Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling thro= ugh > any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT > monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. > > I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, jus= t > maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other > side of the planet can have an effect too... > > Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. > > Mark > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > --=20 In New York from the 2nd to 14th of October, Then on to California with Meredith Monk. http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic ------=_Part_102466_17489015.1224478730366 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Mark, I'll light a proverbial candle and keep you both= in my deepest thoughts and prayers, sending out energy for the best of res= ults and peace for both of you. We're all here as you can see, and than= k you for sharing.  It is a privilege to be included in yours and Hild= e's story.   May the strength of our collective focus support your= already strong and committed spirits.

Best, Todd



On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:01 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.= com> wrote:
Hi!

I havent mentio= ned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with all my looper frien= ds doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, = but had to cancel....

I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping praye= r/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. S= he has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomo= rrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she wi= ll be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted dire= ctly into the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit e= xtremely controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakene= d cancer.
Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at = that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travel= ling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch i= t on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, j= ust maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the oth= er side of the planet can have an effect too...

Have a great show gu= ys, and wish us luck.

Mark
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombehttp:/= /www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no



--
In New York from the 2n= d to 14th of October,
Then on to California with Meredith Monk.

= http://blog.toddreynolds.com http://myspace.com/toddrey= noldsmusic

------=_Part_102466_17489015.1224478730366-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 05:58:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6608D3BE89; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:58:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:58:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C9323E.34BE55E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:58:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C9323E.34BE55E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, My best thoughts and wishes go out to your love and you. There is much = good energy in Santa Cruz. Consider my part of it sent your way. Bob ------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C9323E.34BE55E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
 
My best thoughts and wishes go out to = your love and=20 you.  There is much good energy in Santa Cruz.  Consider my = part of it=20 sent your way.
 
Bob
------=_NextPart_000_00A3_01C9323E.34BE55E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 07:42:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A71D3BE84; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=g+Z+603b/zGKUNVmU8cPtrqWpP8zHKiJk6nhYovuGWE=; b=wQLOC9oXLPRo66Q2GDRyXbKBv/wD/fE+P+3LJrWww3t6ZVrzqj9t4ZYjspIJwHQF4q E4zyD4IYn8xVc12x5W1AmLemSNxz6O4yUpOqj66oqGD/5XOJ9qBzJiohNeoNgbzZ+oA/ CYpGFSG1LfoIFCduApfu4yh69PMJQKou0pw2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=O2h55XPZDEgnMkAh3jOwuzrRWhHclhNUQw+WWkAJBPPOJFYweNzegIIa71iUvq4XCp YrITSHKzHk1wtE9dfufQT16rpAjjC7za3yfBcn2yZ/t+Jja317V6F5mSR4Sbxtlt7rka pG/PBK5+zVknM0oC7u6JHUnzBYwNYyWPH5y0c= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:42:56 +0300 From: "Jeff Lomas" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer In-Reply-To: <250901.7993.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8E9E126B-2073-4104-A1DF-1D1160C14A27@comcast.net> <250901.7993.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, I used the rack version in the mid-90s on a punk project. It seemed to "brighten" the mix a little, but I would never buy one. I've achieved better results with a TC Electronic 1210, a 3-band EQ, and some compression. Hasta, Jeff www.nightmarepuppies.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 08:54:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBEFD3BE7F; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <017101c93291$799367c0$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:54:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_016E_01C932A2.3CB0F2D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp7.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:54:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016E_01C932A2.3CB0F2D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mark, my deepest prayers and whishes for your better half. fabio ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: loopers-delight=20 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Hi! I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with = all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where = I should be playing, but had to cancel.... I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping = prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love = Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks = now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances = at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano = robot inserted directly into the center of the tumour that is in her = cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and directed beams of = radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer. Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior = doctor as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at = that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not = travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they = can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, = just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the = other side of the planet can have an effect too... Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. Mark=20 --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release Date: = 19/10/2008 18.02 ------=_NextPart_000_016E_01C932A2.3CB0F2D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mark, my deepest prayers and whishes for = your better=20 half.
 
fabio
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: loopers-delight =
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 = 12:01=20 AM
Subject: Call to Santa Cruz = loopers to=20 send a healing loop!

Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for = privacy=20 issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa = Cruz=20 RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel....

I = hope=20 that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healing = loop out=20 with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has been = undergoing=20 Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely = the=20 same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put to = sleep, and=20 have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the = center of the=20 tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and = directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
Called = Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor as = "not=20 unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game! = Anyway,=20 the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling through = any=20 organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT = monitor,=20 and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrible spacy = or new-agey=20 or religeos person, but maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops = emanating=20 from almost directly the other side of the planet can have an effect=20 too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.

Mark =
--=20
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
www.looop.no

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.=20
Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1733 - Release Date: = 19/10/2008=20 18.02
------=_NextPart_000_016E_01C932A2.3CB0F2D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 09:51:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F6093BE84; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8E03C9CB29E7402A8DDDA4088866A023@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:51:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C932A1.C31693D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:51:27 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C932A1.C31693D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Many thoughts and prayers for Hilde and you from my wife and me. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C932A1.C31693D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Many thoughts and prayers for Hilde and you from my = wife and=20 me.
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C932A1.C31693D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 12:27:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8134B3BE7F; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224505626; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=1LSyAO+eiZpN2GbwVJcPvhdchB0=; b=UoLxq6bUAdQSbAy6enuxpW5TCVXlxlPbwUyAl/cwKnWuV6HV2S+0dPZLEIQ/8ShS 6feybm3l+kohVhTlRekURKmBuXsl9If56b5t6Twp0GglFqB76l5srojHThFa3Uyu; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=CH1TxJ-8AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=fT2EIfAeQ885FizH_SAA:9 a=F__ZKA5RcjgD8m3QraMA:7 a=y0SQj76YKx_1JtNKyLKM_jWLB9MA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c932af$2a066ea0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <8E9E126B-2073-4104-A1DF-1D1160C14A27@comcast.net> <250901.7993.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:27:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:27:07 +0000 (UTC) hey Jeff, what kind of compressor do you use? And where do you run the eq and compressor in your chain? I have compression on in my RP 250 but I am going back to all dedicated effects slowly. I miss the tweakability on the fly of individual pedals. thanks, Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lomas" To: Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:42 AM Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer > Jeff, > I used the rack version in the mid-90s on a punk project. It seemed > to "brighten" the mix a little, but I would never buy one. I've > achieved better results with a TC Electronic 1210, a 3-band EQ, and > some compression. > > Hasta, > Jeff > www.nightmarepuppies.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1734 - Release Date: 10/20/2008 7:25 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 12:28:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2E4B3BE79; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=xF8Xb5pW-PZGjWzd-4IA:9 a=EquC0gQmxBpeqyG_5rIA:7 a=4EKldajEmCZ6H7EBEJP8ixyagdYA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: In Ear Monitors. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:28:24 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:28:26 +0000 (UTC) I know this has been gone over before, but I'm looking very some high quality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my Motu. But I'm particularly interested in some very good sounding phones that are either custom fit via an Audiologist, or an of the shelf set that stay in, even while singing. I'm willing to spend a little cash. Regards, Chris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 12:30:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E11743BE7E; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7F12BFEA-4CE7-43D8-AFB2-270FB821BD6E@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: In Ear Monitors. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:30:15 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Server-Quench: da22644e-9ea2-11dd-aecc-001871e930f4 X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwddfTUdGxpo UEhBUlNRHgZoCx0G SBcfTBhzdBtHfnZu ZEJkQXJeXkFldQgg SzUncBoEE2dobGga Uw5ZdwFXPlcbfB1D blQqSXpYMGcaZ3s0 E0o6Mjs6eG0HcXQK GwxcdgocHVAxE2x0 ZhZKMDw1VWgCQSQv KAY9bBZ0 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.cat.dmpriest.net.uk:1378/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 12:30:19 +0000 (UTC) i like my etymotic ER4s not custom fit, but great On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:28 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > I know this has been gone over before, but I'm looking very some > high quality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my > Motu. But I'm particularly interested in some very good sounding > phones that are either custom fit via an Audiologist, or an of the > shelf set that stay in, even while singing. I'm willing to spend a > little cash. > > Regards, > Chris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 13:39:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CE0B3BE7E; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:39:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=y848xpLidPLEBt+1xVNGHkw7LmmmXVbp1F5MTk2e0oo=; b=iw930jMz+NJrWCN8JlbxutrHnP/U1mfu6S15GkyLo5GgwAMLd/q7wxQAyIxLBMj1Iw +KdlC6qXMTfVNIlNRWIH0PY6OiUje1fAA6nZwTUVk+HmmvGBhQC3O+cc0tIVsRw9Idy/ aCYzIIK1GrDkch9wzK0jdiPfsvQek+TrpOKcs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Fp2tdqB4bQYhp9YCr/hlcOyrr8f/nH5PoDMqxDgrAAAx3e9WYb05JR39wvCg6JHc2R 0hrSBdHFsgDe0wqt7sp/O7SofLL5raHxINj5NnzQLt+ry17DgfT5fClWWSrlIcBVDNS+ 8aBawtdjnN0Mfzs0I0Pd/u13CZtIVZ4LYe13c= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:39:43 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49000_18354443.1224509984043" References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:39:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49000_18354443.1224509984043 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Positive vibes and thoughts go out to you and yours. That technology sounds amazing. Interesting times we live in. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Hi! > > I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with al= l > my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I > should be playing, but had to cancel.... > > I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping > prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love > Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks no= w > and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2= K8, > she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inser= ted > directly into the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will > emit extremely controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully > weakened cancer. > Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor > as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that ga= me! > Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling thro= ugh > any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT > monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. > > I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, jus= t > maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other > side of the planet can have an effect too... > > Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. > > Mark > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony ------=_Part_49000_18354443.1224509984043 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Positive vibes and thoughts go out to you and yours. =

That technology sounds amazing.  Interesting times we live in= . 

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM,= mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
= Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but no= w with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... W= here I should be playing, but had to cancel....

I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping praye= r/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. S= he has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomo= rrow, at precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she wi= ll be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted dire= ctly into the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit e= xtremely controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakene= d cancer.
Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at = that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travel= ling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch i= t on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, j= ust maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the oth= er side of the planet can have an effect too...

Have a great show gu= ys, and wish us luck.

Mark
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombehttp:/= /www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no



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------=_Part_49000_18354443.1224509984043-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 14:04:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD2FE3BE75; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:04:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:58:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:04:39 +0000 (UTC) In my online community, the WELL, we call this "beams." I'll keep 'em on all day for your wife and you. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 14:04:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E7C93BE88; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7F12BFEA-4CE7-43D8-AFB2-270FB821BD6E@zoekeating.com> References: <7F12BFEA-4CE7-43D8-AFB2-270FB821BD6E@zoekeating.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 06:59:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: In Ear Monitors. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:04:40 +0000 (UTC) At 2:30 PM +0200 10/20/08, info at zoekeating wrote: >i like my etymotic ER4s >not custom fit, but great Etymotic has a new model, the HF5, that I really like. http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/hf5.aspx -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dgans Music: http://www.cdbaby.com/all/dgans From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 14:36:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1E713BE7C; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:36:52 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <62135315-1558-481A-B4A2-366816309D6A@mountaincable.net> Message-ID: <20081020143652.66040@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <48F746B6.4030300@post.cybercity.dk> <62135315-1558-481A-B4A2-366816309D6A@mountaincable.net> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19UjOBcMzhUvB0Uolk8vMIpaeBYEHUx0FZdWlztGK 99aMuDKzEb2zWLD57yIEp3faJcrX4ydk+6pw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: sKXFcPosYW0tcs1ommdpUIt8amthcxtE X-FuHaFi: 0.87 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:36:54 +0000 (UTC) > have another look at apple site .... firewire is present ...... am > i wrong > chris hutton yes you are wrong... unfortunately :-) B. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 14:42:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B3F23BE82; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:42:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:42:36 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081020144236.66060@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7F12BFEA-4CE7-43D8-AFB2-270FB821BD6E@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: In Ear Monitors. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19JjYoEa8tJZemY/tcDI4OrLNk0CsFTYb2r1TkCJi 4Cz4ydtEuzZyEc64T6aRfGmcavEUHKYLOLyA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: 5KrPfKRQX1V6Lp12l2ByNdF/SDc4NIyR X-FuHaFi: 0.72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:42:37 +0000 (UTC) I like ultimate ears (UE).... But if you connect directly to headphone outs, be sure to have some limiter, so you don't kill your ears. You could build/have buillt something like this: http://www.headwize.com/projects/limiter_prj.htm A cheap, simple volume limiter is not a reall brick wall limiter - but still works well. My UE-5 came together with a simple volume-limiting adapter - which was very handy. You could get something like that: http://earplugstore.stores.yahoo.net/earsavolifor.html If you want to spend some money, custom-fitting your ear-plugs with a profesional audiologist (do they call them like this?) could be an option. Make sure your ear-phones are custom-fittable. best regards Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 14:49:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27E0F3BE88; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=MxvAtDhHZkcbERpqaamn0ef6Y6Zkn2b62GPkFhc9mWk=; b=AA2mRvvn4ApaeYhlhOno0j2Pmh7KoyXaY7hE1VaNeLajGrr2sJMkG2gh/Z1k0AXbXM x6aObyVtiZhyV97DgNq71k5ZAIXMAqZvdhd08243TFqWQy9vNMi2bgrkZdGxpvyHPHZV qL4gnCBR3P/pu6cvSmElOXikTkuGNGX1o5r8E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=kpY5cI0MAytecehjtXBlsgBzGbBorACgcBuQXi86+eZK1XiWiPc7KEoNQ+VZs5MXr4 w+2Q8pf1JHfCC7+Kr8opO7kPKrKpwfaI6mfJj4hjtC2/w7HzyI31Ljy3M3gd2KL8bKxh ZHD39enCV3ytBN+rynEc1ewmB+6ChlcyRQzxY= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:49:05 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_91036_14628192.1224514145314" References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:49:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_91036_14628192.1224514145314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The idea behind the "Pro" line is that it contains features that most folks won't use/don't need/don't want to pay for. There's a jillion USB 2.0 devices out there (hard drives, scanners, printers, audio interfaces) that covers the majority of Mac users. For the "power" user, there's the MacBook Pro line which does have Firewire. However, demand for dinky 12" screens is pretty thin at that price point, so the smallest you can get is 15". You're in that small small market share that wants a tiny screen on a full-featured box. On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: > For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, it > is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! > > Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would be > willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, but > there is none. > I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic and now > (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry a big 15,4" > MacBookPro around. So... > > ------=_Part_91036_14628192.1224514145314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The idea behind the  "Pro" line is that it contains features that most folks won't use/don't need/don't want to pay for.  There's a jillion USB 2.0 devices out there (hard drives, scanners, printers, audio interfaces) that covers the majority of Mac users.  For the "power" user, there's the MacBook Pro line which does have Firewire.  However, demand for dinky 12" screens is pretty thin at that price point, so the smallest you can get is 15".  You're in that small small market share that wants a tiny screen on a full-featured box.



On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:

now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam:
For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!!

Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, but there is none.
I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic and now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry a big 15,4" MacBookPro around. So...


------=_Part_91036_14628192.1224514145314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 14:58:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EA363BE8C; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:58:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QqJS7zQct98CaZDqFdULNBl6R+OUs5JtX/46/GYgj2cncnoCtKGzOdybY6N91f6TtD+ISVUcjF3HIfn8Gc7iOa/3ugwVpBCuXHMQ73OrVM9+HtqqCLUxz1jsDcaAgDgSUw8Izlup9gJJoK/dQU1CTOKTuSH4EGVbnlsMqR53d5A=; X-YMail-OSG: lTmppI4VM1mH3Y2HtbU25eRbsAxr50K7wRyXZkxxcnHNEUEYTYBFRSeWwdy6LuFAhEFqxdFrMvW1O3K9B63zYTb1VguPU3q4qFAdLmlf6YhZZRlecfC5kaWy.9.moxlCYJ7QsB8ZeK6IDOEVr8PnxleFxxmpzQNREkwzDf6fOhNoEqFeupzccK9_Uts6 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 07:58:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-102892026-1224514690=:53414" Message-ID: <79553.53414.qm@web42105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:58:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-102892026-1224514690=:53414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to agree.=A0 I was only able to stay for an afternoon, but the vibe,= the people, the creativity and the music were all really great and really = inspiring. =A0 This was my first exposure to live looping and I was pretty blown away. =A0 JK --- On Sun, 10/19/08, margaret noble wrote: From: margaret noble Subject: My Experience of Y2K8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 6:41 PM Hello Everybody, Just made it home from the long drive. So, glad I went for it and got the c= hance to participate in this festival. I was blown away by the diversity an= d quality of work I saw. From sound-art, to experimental, to rock, to acous= tic and all unified by the magical loop! The vibe of the musicians and audience at the studio was glowingly positive= , filled openness and interest. This was truly a new music conference and I= learned much from this experience! Thank you all for sharing your work and= energy in this festival, I feel very happy that I had the chance to partic= ipate!!!!!!!! =A0HTTP://MARGARETNOBLE.NET/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com --0-102892026-1224514690=:53414 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I have to agree.  I was only able to stay for an afternoon, but the vibe, the people, the creativity and the music were all really great and really inspiring.
 
This was my first exposure to live looping and I was pretty blown away.
 
JK

--- On Sun, 10/19/08, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com>
Subject: My Experience of Y2K8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 6:41 PM

Hello Everybody,

Just made it home from the long drive. So, glad I went for it and got the chance to participate in this festival. I was blown away by the diversity and quality of work I saw. From sound-art, to experimental, to rock, to acoustic and all unified by the magical loop!

The vibe of the musicians and audience at the studio was glowingly positive, filled openness and interest. This was truly a new music conference and I learned much from this experience! Thank you all for sharing your work and energy in this festival, I feel very happy that I had the chance to participate!!!!!!!!

 
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--0-102892026-1224514690=:53414-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 15:05:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16F343BE88; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20081020150501432.699A81C00090@mwinf1923.orange.fr Message-Id: <256CA484-8432-43B2-BD0F-1CD742919C59@gmail.com> From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-74--752718804 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:05:00 +0200 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:05:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-74--752718804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But the last MacBook wasn't like that - you could get a larger screen without all of the Pro features. On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > The idea behind the "Pro" line is that it contains features that > most folks won't use/don't need/don't want to pay for. There's a > jillion USB 2.0 devices out there (hard drives, scanners, printers, > audio interfaces) that covers the majority of Mac users. For the > "power" user, there's the MacBook Pro line which does have > Firewire. However, demand for dinky 12" screens is pretty thin at > that price point, so the smallest you can get is 15". You're in > that small small market share that wants a tiny screen on a full- > featured box. > > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: > For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. > Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! > > Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would > be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had > firewire, but there is none. > I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic > and now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry > a big 15,4" MacBookPro around. So... > > --Apple-Mail-74--752718804 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But the last MacBook wasn't = like that - you could get a larger screen without all of the Pro = features.

On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Travis Hartnett = wrote:

The idea behind the  "Pro" line is = that it contains features that most folks won't use/don't need/don't = want to pay for.  There's a jillion USB 2.0 devices out there (hard = drives, scanners, printers, audio interfaces) that covers the majority = of Mac users.  For the "power" user, there's the MacBook Pro line = which does have Firewire.  However, demand for dinky 12" screens is = pretty thin at that price point, so the smallest you can get is = 15".  You're in that small small market share that wants a tiny = screen on a full-featured box.



On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>= wrote:

now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some = steam:
For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come = out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!!
=
Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would = be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, = but there is none.
I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX = platform with Logic and now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I = don't plan to carry a big 15,4" MacBookPro around. So...
=


= --Apple-Mail-74--752718804-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 15:18:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F6DB3BE82; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=bVEgplZHv+1JMEXyrxlh8pq1SVAgO4trs9h6ihjcNCc=; b=blmftGEeri0zN6/PXPjkJgE6gacgR+p9McJ72Ev68+SbL042EKpX2kAXyB4o09N6yc Yj2A21o2ji6A51EQS3Sy7HXo2XVbx/y2BdMZBkgATOnciSCAaVdIXVI2ypm8DpmKvfcw myahwnd2buLUXRO22urZCC2Ojm+r+S/sA1phk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=i8ynuXKRbrcHB9Y/pFL2FrS/gW+e+1S6eGntKFB1VMP9JjP/+K48a3ih/M5STWTpuM /gEYawEnmyjuAJW0mhXN5n/6IncqRrV5WrcfCQh75tlJrzPYPkLPzcbVV8wZSwtmP0Rt zzVCiueiFbZT25T1PDDxuHkQqpKYUcDb+q40s= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:17:59 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <256CA484-8432-43B2-BD0F-1CD742919C59@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_91687_20409820.1224515879790" References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <256CA484-8432-43B2-BD0F-1CD742919C59@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:18:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_91687_20409820.1224515879790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline So you want the large screen without Pro features, the OP wants the small screen with the Pro features. Either Apple's market research is off, or the two of you are in different, small customer demographics that don't pencil out. On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:05 AM, doc rossi wrote: > But the last MacBook wasn't like that - you could get a larger screen > without all of the Pro features. > > > ------=_Part_91687_20409820.1224515879790 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
So you want the large screen without Pro features, the OP wants the small screen with the Pro features.  Either Apple's market research is off, or the two of you are in different, small customer demographics that don't pencil out.


On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 8:05 AM, doc rossi <docittern@gmail.com> wrote:
But the last MacBook wasn't like that - you could get a larger screen without all of the Pro features.



------=_Part_91687_20409820.1224515879790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 15:22:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4C5D3BE85; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: , References: <79553.53414.qm@web42105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:21:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9328C.EAE77F60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:22:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9328C.EAE77F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also have to agree. I was at the festival from noon until around 9pm = yesterday and I really didn't want to leave. Every act from the first = timers to the headliners were a treat to watch. For me, it is = inspirational. Seeing everybody do what they do makes me want to get = out there and make more music of my own. Bob ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9328C.EAE77F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I also have to agree.  I was at = the festival=20 from noon until around 9pm yesterday and I really didn't want to = leave. =20 Every act from the first timers to the headliners were a treat to = watch. =20 For me, it is inspirational.  Seeing everybody do what they do makes me want to get out there = and make=20 more music of my own.
 
Bob
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C9328C.EAE77F60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 15:31:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40C603BE8F; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:31:01 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081020153101.175440@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9ea2f30b0810180628y6e501bf0j470d40ca6c36beaa@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: MOTU tech support experience To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18cNIc5WC0ceF7R/VSCOZ4kW+IBNkv2VUrSu97keJ oYTGXJ+RrlIJZceE0H7PI0YX/bQ7+lJhT3Cw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: AZHOcL93Pjl+G5wvzTQ2jfU7MTE2Nclv X-FuHaFi: 0.78 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:31:05 +0000 (UTC) too bad, really disappointing. This is shifting a RME vs. MOTU decision towards RME (i know, in know, RME is the best par none other... - but Ultralite is stil interesting due to price, FX...) buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/wasistshortview.php?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 15:42:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328AB3BE78; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: z6TFNS4VM1mo1aqgALUfNrxbKZdr7uCelFXSyl4aWHX6gPdIyzJU8v4mLORX9cy4QF2MVr81SjFL7Y0PhGm7zYcIBxVHL4fv7LWD2O4V0zU8XFm9L0Q58ayta23IwfY._gsx3AonsDmHhuI.QlIKWrEI8a1_7fPFEzcb7p4jUBhdgx5v121UTX.Q1q2x X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:42:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Wegmann Reply-To: theweg@verizon.net Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-52717031-1224517347=:25220" Message-ID: <228547.25220.qm@web84108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:42:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-52717031-1224517347=:25220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My thoughts and prayers go out to you, keep the faith and the shared love w= ill overcome! =A0 Peace from WV, Weg My URL http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater My Blog URL http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater --- On Sun, 10/19/08, mark francombe wrote: From: mark francombe Subject: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! To: "loopers-delight" Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 6:01 PM Hi! I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now with all = my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I shou= ld be playing, but had to cancel.... I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healin= g loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has b= een undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at= precisely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be pu= t to sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly int= o the center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely= controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer= . Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game!= Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling throu= gh any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on a CT = monitor, and "drive it" via remote control. I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just = maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other s= ide of the planet can have an effect too... Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. Mark=20 --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --0-52717031-1224517347=:25220 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My thoughts and prayers go out to you, k= eep the faith and the shared love will overcome!
 
Peace from WV,
Weg

My URL
http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater

My Blo= g URL
http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater

--- On Sun, 10/19/0= 8, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>Subject: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop!
To: "loope= rs-delight" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Sunday, Oc= tober 19, 2008, 6:01 PM

Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy= issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz= RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel....

I hop= e that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/healing loo= p out with all your creative energy to me and my love Hilde. She has been u= ndergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at prec= isely the same time as the monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put to = sleep, and have (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the= center of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely cont= rolled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
= Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor a= s "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that game!= Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they can watch it on= a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.

I=B4m not a terrib= le spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just maybe, all those g= ood vibe loops emanating from almost directly the other side of the planet = can have an effect too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.<= BR>
Mark
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www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtub= e.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.l= ooop.no
--0-52717031-1224517347=:25220-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 15:49:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02F473BE78; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:49:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=llvtBousdoMDRd2iU+XrNClY2zaOGS8g/eKwz9HDpWlrts2Cq/SO+M8X9wUjIQUC; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <0B60D787-A817-43E8-98E0-1B7178070789@earthlink.net> From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--750067888 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 08:49:11 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c260958fb33a8d5d571a3f3e7f1a6301dfcd83ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:49:12 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--750067888 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, I send my love / prayers out to you and Hilde. I wish the =20 very best for her and you through all of this. Please do let us know =20= how this all goes, if you would?=85 I wish you both a smooth road through this time=85 Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:01 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Hi! > > I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now =20 > with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT =20 > NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel.... > > I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/=20= > healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love =20 > Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 =20 > weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday =20 > performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid =20= > you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center of the =20 > tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled =20 > and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer. > Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior =20 > doctor as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was =20 > terrible at that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger =20 > because its not travelling through any organs to get to the spot, =20 > cos its there. they can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via =20= > remote control. > > I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, =20= > just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly =20= > the other side of the planet can have an effect too... > > Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. > > Mark > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --Apple-Mail-1--750067888 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Mark, I send my = love / prayers out to you and Hilde.  I wish the very best for her = and you through all of this.  Please do let us know how this all = goes, if you would?=85  

  I wish you = both a smooth road through this time=85 =  

Smiles,

Cara =  :)


On Oct 19, 2008, at 3:01 = PM, mark francombe wrote:

Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy = issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa = Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to = cancel....

I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a = looping prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and = my love Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 = weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday = performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you = not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center of the tumour that = is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and directed = beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
Called = Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor as = "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that = game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not = travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they = can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.
=
I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but = maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost = directly the other side of the planet can have an effect = too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.

Mark =
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 16:46:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 003D23BE84; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:46:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qwNGv5Qr8abVMEltl9S5rEdZsm1cblO9POPB4gUJG7U=; b=M5smy73HAVN0VqvHqJw0dzKflISwzWhB4SM4pqW1XQmaSdneXmtWhs1U2DGczERXqz Mdb6/hJprZH5DpbphWaFxU1xRAYWKi6LEYJ8MIBn8MivKNL+eWoLqrwyyEQPP75pzRhX 5vzaSYDAmQDuCNns6BY3jsC4UpwpyLPiJun04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=DW/SS/hrrKAe5eC4W9mRFojaoQaBOysDGlnDgbINbPhtuSNVuf+uQBFmU5Wm6DKF0j eTv1S/CkdxhBSrMU+HEZJyDw1fAaSawKBx8JJp1wj9f8gtCCDlFbwv3j5w1yGHruBAUt IX7OFDgf63PD9FLHm9ocPGQpPnSLTCuLYaNdE= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810200946i1edb2529h7df4c9e7f5b3c495@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:46:28 -0700 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 Cc: kesslari@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <79553.53414.qm@web42105.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:46:30 +0000 (UTC) I echo. It was so enriching to be part of this year's fest and to be able to be there for Sat evening and all day Sunday. I was so proud we could once again bring Chinapainting to the stage there again once more. Every performer I heard in the @15 hrs we were there moved and inspired me. Not to attemp to offer photos on the level of mark hamburg whose images from last year and this year, but I did photograph I believe every act while I was there and when I ret home will setup a flickr page with all of my capturings and post on the list. Major thanks to the Walker brothers on the tremendous orchestrating they did in creating and managing Y2K08. Jim On 10/20/08, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I also have to agree. I was at the festival from noon until around 9pm > yesterday and I really didn't want to leave. Every act from the first > timers to the headliners were a treat to watch. For me, it is > inspirational. Seeing everybody do what they do makes me want to get out > there and make more music of my own. > > Bob -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 17:47:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F3A73BE7E; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=SHzJNLXTfKhqv10GJIz3rSrpewbEQ8cxYIhYGbrTvNljCG8oFkznVtZusTfX7aSY; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <9457A0B2-0AE1-4FD6-A988-43E0B89A514C@earthlink.net> From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48FB75D8.4030707@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: GIG SPAM Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:47:23 -0700 References: <9e0440a60810160811i62356ab2td2b090b87c4c7ca0@mail.gmail.com> <48FB75D8.4030707@mhorse.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c260964807356434615e0bd57755cb97a531e666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, NP! Would not have missed it! :) As far as getting on stage again; I have a lil recording project =20 this week which may end up on ITunes=85 -Not sure if there'll be any loopage in it yet, (some of the creative =20= direction is up to me) but we'll see=85 Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 19, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Cara, we blush in spades! You are too kind. Thanks so much for =20 > coming out to the show. It was great to catch up. > > Now we need YOU to get onstage again.! > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >> >> Echo Curio was a blast and it was lovely to be able to catch up =20 >> with Jim and Daryl for a wonderful lunch earlier today. :) J and =20= >> D, you two are super fab! Come back soon, K?=85 > --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 17:52:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C0963BE89; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=L3WLV39VHNU1SIw1CHkJr1nMJYE6QjN4pbu1mzbrw6XQ2zPCDnpV48OB9T9VOisQ; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60810191322h1de3ff1er2f646aea78527d60@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: GIG SPAM Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:52:31 -0700 References: <9e0440a60810160811i62356ab2td2b090b87c4c7ca0@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60810191322h1de3ff1er2f646aea78527d60@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c26097d34bd32e0624fa70863b50f4e1b8255a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: <3QQfK.A.3q.gVM_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:52:32 +0000 (UTC) Jim, thankie kindly! :) Yes, I'd love to play with you two! :) -I suppose I'd better =20 practice a bit!=85 lol! -Will look forward to seeing you two again =20 when ChinaPainting's around these parts next!=85 :) -Was a true joy to meet you as well; I wish you / yours the very =20 best, and do keep in touch? K?=85 Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 19, 2008, at 1:22 PM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Cara echoing daryl's words I too am all a blush over your generous > praise from echo curio. It was so great to finally meet you and have > some ext'd time over those yummy Dosa's. Next time you will play with > us. I'll mention to my buddy jeff about you're wnating to network a > bit. > > Best > > Jim > > On 10/18/08, Cara Quinn wrote: >> Hey All, I have three words; SEE CHINA PAINTING!!!!!!!!!!!! :) >> Aside from the fact that their show is terrific, with a mix of crazy, >> squiggly loopage as well as more 'straight-forward,' tonal, soulful, >> beautiful music, they're simply just great peeps! -And you should go >> and SHOW THEM SERIOUS LOVE!!!! :) :) >> >> they rock and they're way fun, SO GO!!! lol! >> >> Echo Curio was a blast and it was lovely to be able to catch up >> with Jim and Daryl for a wonderful lunch earlier today. :) J and D, >> you two are super fab! Come back soon, K?=85 >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> >> On Oct 16, 2008, at 8:11 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: >> >>> Chinapainting begins a 5 show tour in California today. >>> >>> We have the following gigs... >>> >>> 10/16 Echo Curio, LA (echo park), 8pm >>> 10/17 Saturation Fest/Pharoah's Den, Riverside, 8pm >>> 10/18 m2 Wines, Lodi (Sacramento), 11am-4pm >>> 10/19 Y2K8 Int'l Live Looping Festival, Santa Cruz, 8pm >>> 10/20 SMF Music Series Java Lounge, Sacramento, 830pm >>> >>> Should you be near come see us. >>> >>> Jim www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> www. Myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >>> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >>> Chinapainting - >>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>> Chinapainting on My Space - >>> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >>> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >>> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >>> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >>> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by >>> Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >>> >> >> --- >> View my Online Portfolio at: >> http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >> >> > > > --=20 > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by > Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 18:20:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08FA3BE7E; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <111E6A36-ACFA-49D6-A02B-C36A3FCC0B30@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081020154228.D3C213BE8A@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: re: in-ear monitors Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:20:31 -0700 References: <20081020154228.D3C213BE8A@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:20:41 +0000 (UTC) hi- > I know this has been gone over before, but I'm looking very some > high quality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my > Motu. But I'm particularly interested in some very good sounding > phones that are either custom fit via an Audiologist, or an of the > shelf set that stay in, even while singing. I'm willing to spend a > little cash. i have a pair of custom fitted in-ears, which i got from a company called "Precision Audio Labs" in Florida. It's a bit DIY, since you'll need a friend to help you with the mold...basically they squeeze a syringe filled with silicone into your ears. then you ship the molds to the lab and they send you back the final product. i have the original Challenger series, which i've used on several US tours, and they've always been great. after one tour, i had one of the molds split open, but they repaired it for free, and no problems since. i wouldn't hesitate to recommend these folks, they've been really great. website: http://www.precisionweb.com/ PS, i currently have these paired with a Nady PEM800, which seems to work reasonably well, given that it's a Nady product. no complaints so far. - tyler / battery cage - www.batterycage.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 18:48:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A01F23BEA2; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_7244f305-d840-4dc8-be4c-d246600c7456_" X-Originating-IP: [72.161.58.6] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: In Ear Monitors. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:48:57 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Oct 2008 18:48:57.0827 (UTC) FILETIME=[8263A330:01C932E4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:48:59 +0000 (UTC) --_7244f305-d840-4dc8-be4c-d246600c7456_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable for what its worth- =20 ive owned 3 pairs of IEMS -=20 first pair was ultimate ears e-10 tripple drivers - custom molds - sounded = awesome untill i stepped on one of them after it fell out during a performa= nce - $1000 down the shitter then i got the guitar center special...the non molded ultimate ears ...ue-5= 's i think (around $200).....horrible fit...mediocre sound...... so i had my molds taken by an audiologist ($70) and sent them to sensaphoni= cs along with my ue-5's....and they installed the IEMS into the molds.....w= orked great untill i dropped them in the snow somewhere during load out....= ..note to self....clear molds are not the best idea if you are clumbsy like= me =20 if you go the route of doing your own ear impressions...take careful note i= n the position of your jaw when you let the material settle- the volume of your aural cavity changes drasitcally based on the position o= f your jaw....so if you plan on singing with them in=2C you will want to op= en your mouth slightly...maybe an inch to 1.5 inches of space between your = teeth -=20 if you're not singing...then mimic the facial expression of you playing you= r instrument...and keep still =20 all in all=2C IEMS violate my new rule of owning very expensive small thing= s....as they are too easy to loose or destroy...so now i use regualr ol hea= dphones for mixing and performing =20 goodluck > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> From: midifriedchicken@comcast.n= et> Subject: In Ear Monitors. > Date: Mon=2C 20 Oct 2008 08:28:24 -0400> > = I know this has been gone over before=2C but I'm looking very some high > q= uality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my Motu. > But I'm= particularly interested in some very good sounding phones > that are eithe= r custom fit via an Audiologist=2C or an of the shelf set > that stay in=2C= even while singing. I'm willing to spend a little cash.> > Regards=2C> Chr= is>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Want to read Hotmail messages in Outlook? The Wordsmiths show you how. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/wedowindowslive.spaces.live.com-Blog-cn= s!20EE04FBC541789!167.entry?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_092008= --_7244f305-d840-4dc8-be4c-d246600c7456_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable for what its worth-
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ive owned =3B3 pairs of IEMS -
first pair was ultimate ears e-10 tripple drivers - custom molds - sounded = awesome untill i stepped on one of them after it fell out during a performa= nce - $1000 down the shitter
then i got the guitar center special...the non molded ultimate ears ...ue-5= 's i think (around $200).....horrible fit...mediocre sound......
so i had my molds taken by an audiologist ($70) =3Band sent them to sen= saphonics along with my ue-5's....and they installed the =3BIEMS into t= he molds.....worked great untill i dropped them in the snow somewhere durin= g load out......note to self....clear molds are not the best idea if you ar= e clumbsy like me
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if you go the route of doing your own ear impressions...take careful note&n= bsp=3Bin the position of your jaw when you let the material settle-
the volume of your aural cavity changes drasitcally based on the position o= f your jaw....so if you plan on singing with them in=2C you will want to op= en your mouth slightly...maybe an inch to 1.5 inches of space between your = teeth -
if you're not singing...then mimic =3Bthe facial expression of you play= ing your instrument...and keep still
 =3B
all in all=2C IEMS violate my new rule of owning very expensive small thing= s....as they are too easy to loose or destroy...so now i use regualr ol hea= dphones for mixing and performing
 =3B
goodluck


>=3B To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>=3B From: midi= friedchicken@comcast.net
>=3B Subject: In Ear Monitors.
>=3B Dat= e: Mon=2C 20 Oct 2008 08:28:24 -0400
>=3B
>=3B I know this has b= een gone over before=2C but I'm looking very some high
>=3B quality I= EMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my Motu.
>=3B But I'= m particularly interested in some very good sounding phones
>=3B that= are either custom fit via an Audiologist=2C or an of the shelf set
>= =3B that stay in=2C even while singing. I'm willing to spend a little cash.=
>=3B
>=3B Regards=2C
>=3B Chris
>=3B


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--0-428490444-1224534070=:83518-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 21:13:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1785E3BE80; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <287CF5DB-9C4B-4959-B1CF-6EE21C217D7B@kliklak.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: loopers delight From: jayrope looper's delight Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:13:53 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - houston.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: <0F8ISC.A.bkF.WSP_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:13:58 +0000 (UTC) I tried using the sonic maximizer as an AU plug in Logic Pro before, and to me it turned out causing more trouble, then introducing good things. The exciter effect harms signal transients severely and phasing was introduced to the bassier frequencies causing a wobbling and unstable impression there. A decent EQ, preferrably an analog one seems to be a much better solution to freshen up a signal - in other words, it the signal is alredy sounding numb, when playing it, then nothing can really help it, especially not in the digital domain. 80s exciters worked in the analog domain, if i am not wrong (corrections welcome) - at least my aphex exciter can do small wonders if a recording is not optimally eq'd. It can help shing some light on a single signal in an otherwise foggy mix, although introducing more noise as well. The rack mount exciters of that time sound much more natural, than any digital domain exciters introduced later (the exciter in logic pro is equally bad..) - and yes, they do introduce a harshness as well, but a smoother one. i suppose, that eliminating issues with bad, harsh sounding converters (in some boss loopers, line6, zoom, repeater...) and as well using a good quality analog EQ and compressor can do more wonders in that matter. generally i'd recommend to stay analog as much as possible. jayrope http://kliklak.net http://myspace.com/silencecollective From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 20 22:15:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CA493BE7B; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 490 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:15:05 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hBdyW/7vDt86kYfefqZ+33F6sS9nugXRXmS9K94fHSg=; b=kP6hoVQIK6Xwfnt+bGtlhfkmf04eE7ECyKr1fn87C24XgP2bkMSz/zHflIC3+rID1i SsA3a9uis4f0sWSXdrJmWj00UeoY2WsqskT7uCAZHv9am+wvh59O+VFDMpq9+wri6LEW juKzqDkKOb52tbuwFYzHxNbwX5NrUTX+tCo+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=KBy0GGr8RH07/FliEANT57/vG+RqnS7srIM5Q6cRIePdjWtx/yPB35ZBVA27gTvaJ4 l5dNho1XWVL8WN71hA1/2pp7hEAOpfP+I2Pav2JyXDT0N/OXeZLxzohbL8IzstmwCDM5 6EhIEn2d3K78j9TSwOuo5o2vnXnicgZ39Wq3I= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 01:06:53 +0300 From: "Jeff Lomas" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer In-Reply-To: <000e01c932af$2a066ea0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8E9E126B-2073-4104-A1DF-1D1160C14A27@comcast.net> <250901.7993.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <000e01c932af$2a066ea0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:15:06 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, The shortest answer to the comp question is, "It depends" ;-). Probably 65% of the time its through an aux on the board pre fader. For acoustic guitar, I have a three gain stages in my mic pre (http://www.pendulumaudio.com/SPS-1.html) before the board. I apply compression through my aux. Drums.....well....I like really BIG kick sounds and ringing snares, so anything to fatten up the kick is great in my book. In a multi-instrumental world of sonic bliss, I'd apply the TC 1210 expander and a final EQ-ing to the main bus on its way out. For compressor units, or things with compressors in them, I have DBX 166 ART Pro VLA Focusrite TwinTrak TC Electronic G Major Line6 X3 Live I've used behringer compressors before and they're OK. great if you need a lot of compressors in the rack for live stuff. DBX is the tried and true. The ART Pro VLA I like quite a bit and have used since the mid nineties. It adds an interesting color to vocals that appeals to me. The TC unit is clean and quiet. great on guitar. really great on acoustic. The only thing Line6 makes that I'm really excited about is the DL-4. the X3 is a toy. Its fun to make noise with and do weird things. Its pretty easy to carry around. But the signal is dirty with alot of hiss. It goes from muddy to way too loud in a flash and is just too hard to a handle on in a live mix. controls for the onboard effects are overly simplistic and not for most of the people that lurk on looper's delight. so back to sonic maximizing ... There was a thread last week that talked about frequencies below 20hz. I don't remember the exact details, but it was talking about these freqs not being perceived as sound although potentially still being musical. It reminded me of a debate I used to have with Peter Koniuto some time ago. What Peter would do was notch out everything below 20 hz. This resulted in an increase of gain and sonic definition within the remaining frequencies. I always felt that sound did not have to be heard to be perceived - particularly when it came to these lower freqs. The results were quite interesting, nonetheless, and is still something worth trying to apply to your final mix to see what happens. I hope that helps. Jeff On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > hey Jeff, what kind of compressor do you use? And where do you run the eq > and compressor in your chain? I have compression on in my RP 250 but I am > going back to all dedicated effects slowly. I miss the tweakability on the > fly of individual pedals. > > thanks, > Jeff > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Lomas" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 3:42 AM > Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer > > >> Jeff, >> I used the rack version in the mid-90s on a punk project. It seemed >> to "brighten" the mix a little, but I would never buy one. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 00:48:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 060FC3BE7F; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:48:50 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=mdBRjlimiD4mu5QFn0yeP9Wk49h42mbRSdNeyaFH+2LFnXczE//wOVEidxEWDBfrh5H3tXGipHw3m2i1JL0PtBchXsoXCWSf/KZYYPhNl7Gv/t2PqRYHZzRalQTofmrgx8xy6I67/P8wvp/Em6nJJ7KhayozDguGX6LsF6p9C0k=; X-YMail-OSG: UGCrtHYVM1mUrhozEXZmxef9NsWZ.We_B.KDZvNG3j0BUeZq_8tWU9SJ X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:42:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Darren Michaels Reply-To: milkdudbass@yahoo.com Subject: re: in-ear monitors To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <111E6A36-ACFA-49D6-A02B-C36A3FCC0B30@batterycage.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-533894928-1224549730=:55590" Message-ID: <660741.55590.qm@web32201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:48:50 +0000 (UTC) --0-533894928-1224549730=:55590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I vouch for Westone. http://www.westone.com/content/8.html They're way flatter response than monitors from Precision Audio Labs (which are still very awesome). darren --- On Mon, 10/20/08, tyler newman wrote: From: tyler newman Subject: re: in-ear monitors To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:20 PM hi- > I know this has been gone over before, but I'm looking very some > high quality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my > Motu. But I'm particularly interested in some very good sounding > phones that are either custom fit via an Audiologist, or an of the > shelf set that stay in, even while singing. I'm willing to spend a > little cash. i have a pair of custom fitted in-ears, which i got from a company called "Precision Audio Labs" in Florida. It's a bit DIY, since you'll need a friend to help you with the mold...basically they squeeze a syringe filled with silicone into your ears. then you ship the molds to the lab and they send you back the final product. i have the original Challenger series, which i've used on several US tours, and they've always been great. after one tour, i had one of the molds split open, but they repaired it for free, and no problems since. i wouldn't hesitate to recommend these folks, they've been really great. website: http://www.precisionweb.com/ PS, i currently have these paired with a Nady PEM800, which seems to work reasonably well, given that it's a Nady product. no complaints so far. - tyler / battery cage - www.batterycage.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --0-533894928-1224549730=:55590 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I vouch for Westone. http://www.westone.com/content/8.html

They're way flatter response than monitors from Precision Audio Labs (which are still very awesome).

darren
--- On Mon, 10/20/08, tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com> wrote:
From: tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com>
Subject: re: in-ear monitors
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:20 PM

hi-

> I know this has been gone over before, but I'm looking very some  
> high quality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my  
> Motu. But I'm particularly interested in some very good sounding  
> phones that are either custom fit via an Audiologist, or an of the  
>
 shelf set that stay in, even while singing. I'm willing to spend a  
> little cash.

i have a pair of custom fitted in-ears, which i got from a company  
called "Precision Audio Labs" in Florida. It's a bit DIY, since
you'll  
need a friend to help you with the mold...basically they squeeze a  
syringe filled with silicone into your ears. then you ship the molds  
to the lab and they send you back the final product.

i have the original Challenger series, which i've used on several US  
tours, and they've always been great. after one tour, i had one of the  
molds split open, but they repaired it for free, and no problems  
since. i wouldn't hesitate to recommend these folks, they've been  
really great.

website: http://www.precisionweb.com/

PS, i currently have these paired with a Nady PEM800, which seems to  
work reasonably well, given that it's a Nady product. no complaints so 
 
far.

- tyler / battery cage
- www.batterycage.com


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http://mail.yahoo.com --0-533894928-1224549730=:55590-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 03:50:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4907E3BE84; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <1ad0bb9043fe996cf0e64de991759f7d@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 20:50:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Mark, I'm already back home in Oregon from Y2K8 so I'm a little outside that vortex of good wishes and thoughts represented there. But I promise this very hour to pray for Hilde and you from my own little corner of the cosmos. Healing, peace, blessings and grace be on you both. Best regards, Ted Killian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 04:36:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C08763BE82; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:36:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <418880CB-ACCF-4E3D-AEB7-442C2289AB65@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--714876325 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:=28?= Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:35:43 -0300 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:36:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--714876325 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think we all want the Pro, because it has separate memory for the graphics I experienced that the mini (and probably the non pro equally) creates clicks easily On 20 Oct 2008, at 11:49, Travis Hartnett wrote: > The idea behind the "Pro" line is that it contains features that > most folks won't use/don't need/don't want to pay for. There's a > jillion USB 2.0 devices out there (hard drives, scanners, printers, > audio interfaces) that covers the majority of Mac users. For the > "power" user, there's the MacBook Pro line which does have > Firewire. However, demand for dinky 12" screens is pretty thin at > that price point, so the smallest you can get is 15". You're in > that small small market share that wants a tiny screen on a full- > featured box. > > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: > For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. > Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! > > Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would > be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had > firewire, but there is none. > I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic > and now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry > a big 15,4" MacBookPro around. So... > > --Apple-Mail-1--714876325 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think we all want the Pro, = because it has separate memory for the graphics
I experienced that = the mini (and probably the non pro equally) creates clicks = easily

On 20 Oct 2008, at 11:49, = Travis Hartnett wrote:

The idea behind the  "Pro" line is that it contains = features that most folks won't use/don't need/don't want to pay = for.  There's a jillion USB 2.0 devices out there (hard drives, = scanners, printers, audio interfaces) that covers the majority of Mac = users.  For the "power" user, there's the MacBook Pro line which = does have Firewire.  However, demand for dinky 12" screens is = pretty thin at that price point, so the smallest you can get is = 15".  You're in that small small market share that wants a tiny = screen on a full-featured box.



On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net>= wrote:

now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some = steam:
For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come = out. Now, it is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!!
=
Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would = be willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, = but there is none.
I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX = platform with Logic and now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I = don't plan to carry a big 15,4" MacBookPro around. So...
=


= --Apple-Mail-1--714876325-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 04:45:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C9C33BE82; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <64C017DF75E047AD983FFD4A2696A3E1@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: , References: <660741.55590.qm@web32201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: in-ear monitors Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:44:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C932FD.19ADE030" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <8FU4SB.A.7wB.P5V_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:45:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C932FD.19ADE030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the Westone IEMs in my band and I'm very happy with them. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Darren Michaels=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 5:42 PM Subject: re: in-ear monitors I vouch for Westone. http://www.westone.com/content/8.html They're way flatter response than monitors from Precision Audio = Labs (which are still very awesome). darren --- On Mon, 10/20/08, tyler newman = wrote: From: tyler newman Subject: re: in-ear monitors To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:20 PM hi-> I know this has been gone over before, but I'm looking very some > = high quality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on my > = Motu. But I'm particularly interested in some very good sounding > = phones that are either custom fit via an Audiologist, or an of the > shelf set that stay in, even while singing. I'm willing to spend a > = little cash.i have a pair of custom fitted in-ears, which i got from a = company called "Precision Audio Labs" in Florida. It's a bit DIY, = sinceyou'll need a friend to help you with the mold...basically they = squeeze a syringe filled with silicone into your ears. then you ship = the molds to the lab and they send you back the final product.i have = the original Challenger series, which i've used on several US tours, = and they've always been great. after one tour, i had one of the molds = split open, but they repaired it for free, and no problems since. i = wouldn't hesitate to recommend these folks, they've been really = great.website: http://www.precisionweb.com/PS, i currently have these = paired with a Nady PEM800, which seems to work reasonably well, given = that it's a Nady product. no complaints so=20 far.- tyler / battery cage- www.batterycage.com=20 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C932FD.19ADE030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use the Westone IEMs in my band and = I'm very=20 happy with them.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Darren=20 Michaels
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 = 5:42=20 PM
Subject: re: in-ear = monitors

I vouch for Westone. http://www.westone.com/con= tent/8.html

They're=20 way flatter response than monitors from Precision Audio Labs = (which are=20 still very awesome).

darren
--- On Mon, 10/20/08, = tyler=20 newman <tyler@batterycage.com>=20 wrote:
From:=20 tyler newman <tyler@batterycage.com>
Su= bject:=20 re: in-ear monitors
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Date:=20 Monday, October 20, 2008, 2:20 PM

hi-

> =
I know this has been gone over before, but I'm looking very some  =

> high quality IEMs. I plan on simply using the headphone out on =
my  
> Motu. But I'm particularly interested in some very good =
sounding  
> phones that are either custom fit via an Audiologist, =
or an of the  
>
 shelf set that stay in, even while singing. I'm willing to spend a  =

> little cash.

i have a pair of custom fitted in-ears, =
which i got from a company  
called "Precision Audio Labs" in =
Florida. It's a bit DIY, since
you'll  
need a friend to help you =
with the mold...basically they squeeze a  
syringe filled with =
silicone into your ears. then you ship the molds  
to the lab and =
they send you back the final product.

i have the original =
Challenger series, which i've used on several US  
tours, and they've =
always been great. after one tour, i had one of the  
molds split =
open, but they repaired it for free, and no problems  
since. i =
wouldn't hesitate to recommend these folks, they've been  
really =
great.

website: http://www.precisionweb.com/

PS, i =
currently have these paired with a Nady PEM800, which seems to  
work =
reasonably well, given that it's a Nady product. no complaints so=20
 
far.

- tyler / battery cage
- =
www.batterycage.com

<= BR>__________________________________________________
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http://mail.yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_00E1_01C932FD.19ADE030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 07:05:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC9753BE80; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:05:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=DV5NRneC9HcV5mAG0Uby/sVWXr03WHYgB65hBmqd0LA=; b=UyH0qiJD+qmK1zz/IRn4s3g+sDaJQYXxDmzT2Dl/po/7eAiQ8tPHh9NJUGjoGBPvvU N+GWTiojdgWPOQ/cJoi67fKDhhn4cAyUU7kPnuEZs7SMSaHhZ+voOFVR4ar8qkhQ/45r sc7Bo/YpYBD0JYioDtEzocEvJ+5tkwYwhjty4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=gRVKAc9lo7UVrKloSNoHqOxva6/wSa4F8Ig7A8pWBrIz6kcfOEdt0aKbQe4QG/oMsE VqCYuYMQFD6iosb9fXFL7GKHn3JKN/ImAfBrrKNFm6omtFNZyCql/n7maatUIqh5850A WHeFelMgl0ofLeihg/kTTEaE+lAOdbc8gtOi8= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:05:02 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1690_18437598.1224572702983" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 83b60775fcdd86a7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:05:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1690_18437598.1224572702983 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey everyone, I'm new to the list. I have been into music for ages but never had the money to get any equipment so my Evolution MK-461C and a stolen copy of Reason 3 were my only tools until I got into college and got a job :P Anyways, now I use reason 4 (legally) and my same keyboard and I recently bought a Kaoss Pad. I'd really like to get a setup that would allow me to do the following (in the long term order I wish to be able to do them): - DJ with bpm syncing for smooth song transitions and do effects using my kaoss pad, eventually leading to mashup DJing - I'd like to turn the songs I DJ into new tracks on the fly using looping techniques and incorporate some of my own sounds via reason (possibly rewired to ableton Live if that's a good idea, I'm currently trialing Live). - Eventually, I'd like to create completely original drum'n'bass/breakbeat/electronica music as a live looper (and then come to the santa cruz live looping festival, where I first saw looping, and where I'm from :) I don't have a huge budget right now but I'm working so if there is something I definitely need to purchase, I can work towards earning it soon. I'd like to know what software and hardware you think I should get and plan to get in order to achieve those three things, with the eventual completely original live composing goal as by far the most important one. I prefer doing effects via the kaoss pad by far because I enjoy using hardware more than software, and so I'm also wondering if it might be a good idea just to get a second kaoss pad [thus giving me 8 loops and allowing me to stack effects]? Thanks in advance! - Quine PS: my computer hardware is an iMac, and I also have a macbook. I am a software engineer so learning curve with software utilities shouldn't be a concern. PPS: is this list archived anywhere? I don't like my name getting archived on the internet so I'll use my pseudonym for the time being. ------=_Part_1690_18437598.1224572702983 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey everyone,

I'm new to the list. I have been into music for ages but never had the money to get any equipment so my Evolution MK-461C and a stolen copy of Reason 3 were my only tools until I got into college and got a job :P Anyways, now I use reason 4 (legally) and my same keyboard and I recently bought a Kaoss Pad. I'd really like to get a setup that would allow me to do the following (in the long term order I wish to be able to do them):

- DJ with bpm syncing for smooth song transitions and do effects using my kaoss pad, eventually leading to mashup DJing
- I'd like to turn the songs I DJ into new tracks on the fly using looping techniques and incorporate some of my own sounds via reason (possibly rewired to ableton Live if that's a good idea, I'm currently trialing Live).
- Eventually, I'd like to create completely original drum'n'bass/breakbeat/electronica music as a live looper (and then come to the santa cruz live looping festival, where I first saw looping, and where I'm from :)

I don't have a huge budget right now but I'm working so if there is something I definitely need to purchase, I can work towards earning it soon. I'd like to know what software and hardware you think I should get and plan to get in order to achieve those three things, with the eventual completely original live composing goal as by far the most important one. I prefer doing effects via the kaoss pad by far because I enjoy using hardware more than software, and so I'm also wondering if it might be a good idea just to get a second kaoss pad [thus giving me 8 loops and allowing me to stack effects]?

Thanks in advance!
- Quine

PS: my computer hardware is an iMac, and I also have a macbook. I am a software engineer so learning curve with software utilities shouldn't be a concern.

PPS: is this list archived anywhere? I don't like my name getting archived on the internet so I'll use my pseudonym for the time being.
------=_Part_1690_18437598.1224572702983-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:18:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82DBB3BE82; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=45M5P3stqMDR59RMkzZrk07bVjtS3rPnOPmeELnaknc=; b=wXz72gM5PXrHb1uRjbnrMPHxaaiSRmra2kFiNFMh5fOuytyLXsOEAFeQVsjypY/NP3 cnwow/LcVtJ9VRy9MOTE49x9a0S0U/FY/hpTCMSZg4lXRhT8deSyvf6RE9NbhRb98D8O HWSrrH5OnH97PuwocbrKUcyU01H1Z9huL9vgs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=umzAuAEvSg8OAp9uLNVoWblTESndWQM9JLhuzPwAmuN1MiPL9bpXgL7QY9eSoupVUU IiJmIh7Z2AvzPFru7VpQ+dhucHddXVVozjilOsMzzSj4pr29n/3ZLTkrRdkTRQLvW3NP WRm+eMF6w0I0Ybp/FxE+OghLoescqBVK4JxYk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810210118g6b81871el330a1667a1d5829c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:18:04 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_OT:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <418880CB-ACCF-4E3D-AEB7-442C2289AB65@atarde.com.br> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <418880CB-ACCF-4E3D-AEB7-442C2289AB65@atarde.com.br> Resent-Message-ID: <5p78mC.A.S3F.-AZ_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:18:06 +0000 (UTC) For me this is also a cost issue. I usually don't make much more money than I need for staying alive and I wish to keep other priorities rather than putting more time into making more money. On the other hand, using OS X is more time efficient for me when producing recorded music because I can work in Logic, which is not available for Windows. I also make a partial consultant income teaching Logic and OS X related skills. But for doing live looping concerts I could as well use Windows, as I do now. So far I have actually had better experiences with Windows in that department. The good thing with looping on a MacBook running Windows XP, compared to any other non Apple PC, is that the firewire audio interface can get its power fully supplied by the firewire chord. When using the same interface with a typical Windows laptop I also need to bring a separate power adapter for the audio interface, another small gadget that adds up for your luggage weight and that may eventually get lost on the road. I still have two years insurance left for the MacBook, so for that time I'm well set, but if it turns out a too big additional cost to stay with Apple two years from now I may get rid of my convenient habit of always having a Mac handy on the side. It would mean a little more fuss, like for example not being able to directly connect computers "as external drives" by the firewire target mode... but I could live with those extra minutes for transferring files on some big USB2 stick instead. As for now I prepare for an unknown future by converting my EXS24 sample libraries to Kontakt, that I actually find a better sampler for live looping and that runs on both OS X and Windows. On the MacBook I can keep the patch and sample library within the Windows XP partition and, since I formatted it as FAT32, still read the samples from the OS X partition or any other firewire networked Mac. And if the day comes when no Macs are around here the very same instruments I've learned to play will still be exactly the same in any eventual Windows based rig. Another downside by not having Macs around would be that you miss out on the seamless process of having your iPod's content instantly updated according to your subscriptions. I've heard Windows users complain about this functionality, but on Mac it really is just seamless and takes up no time of mine at all - except for listening to all that great stuff (during transport downtime etc). Maybe it will make sense in the future to keep just one of the cheapest consumer Macs? The shared video memory was also my concern, but it really has not caused me any issues on the MacBook. I don't look at the screen when looping so in fact I couldn't care less. I even did a Logic master class at the university with the MacBook and a big screen projector connected. Even though working a 30 channel mix the audio came out pristine as always from the firewire audio interface. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:35 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > I think we all want the Pro, because it has separate memory for the graphics > I experienced that the mini (and probably the non pro equally) creates > clicks easily > On 20 Oct 2008, at 11:49, Travis Hartnett wrote: > > The idea behind the "Pro" line is that it contains features that most folks > won't use/don't need/don't want to pay for. There's a jillion USB 2.0 > devices out there (hard drives, scanners, printers, audio interfaces) that > covers the majority of Mac users. For the "power" user, there's the MacBook > Pro line which does have Firewire. However, demand for dinky 12" screens is > pretty thin at that price point, so the smallest you can get is 15". You're > in that small small market share that wants a tiny screen on a full-featured > box. > > > > On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 1:20 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: >> >> now, this is really off topic, but I wanted to let off some steam: >> For a laptop setup, I was waiting for the new MacBook to come out. Now, it >> is there and: it has NO FIREWIRE INTERFACE anymore!!! >> >> Obviously, for looping this really sucks. Now, what to do? I would be >> willing to pay extra $$ for a 12"/13" MacBookPro if it had firewire, but >> there is none. >> I was really getting comfortable on the Mac OSX platform with Logic and >> now (finally :-) with Moebius on Mac. But I don't plan to carry a big 15,4" >> MacBookPro around. So... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:23:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A68683BE7C; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=47jaJQTC/JGHmVpRyoWauQgjtMWGgE/FGSmuXE+RimU=; b=vDiLVzRSLpRs9j6z3+La3RZC+QsMJBRVTs1wMTtLD2geNJoAmy+k/Di8fP+XxNGgSz 9YxhvXCbTjfRs8aCJQUF910fcueiy8vTpyN5GBTNCd+4gwFgg7iVaOeRvMdb16nvV5OJ u7OaI+I7j2CkNkPNUsD0RQTyp2wkmAqW/0Vic= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=QLGCi9NrRJHCh8sKqEel7vWvIZpzB+u+OteNwFV+CLXiK8DecLNzQjjYGwwi29GPcd c1G6SHRxjBmm2UP9TRzriPt6NJQ+8Mq9oLEVH9fCDpNnhgBIMq/W7229pcLW8mdleKIo EOYNkBWFPsiYKnrevk19y+AbDl/x+m/bMnSLE= Message-ID: <48FD9160.9040306@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:22:56 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP Sync -- a partial solution and some oddities References: <48EED66A.1090107@cruzio.com> <588ce11d0810122104s2cb48b96q4ecc5cb4f9db6d62@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:23:00 +0000 (UTC) David Hayes schrieb: > (sorry for the repost... first dissapeared and forgot to change subject > when recycling another email for the second...) Changing subject isn't enough, it will stay in the same thread on all e-mail clients. You should always start a new thread, that has the advantage, that it won't have a wrong subject in the first place... This also might be the reason that those who eventually know an answer don't find your post... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:24:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9AD83BE7F; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=WYDoRQgu9r6+SOSwKJysaKzIAmnY4DoZEVNXXml80R8=; b=est9etFdrXi11f4KLMvI2LeQ6tkaveREVU92En5z7ozWvpwLlqeMhYXUMdOQMfJ708 +0B5fny4TBDCpgWMKmD6V5Lis9bNtXB9FULmC5Jx6fxoUlGzUqlYNwQbHKVBgB8t4Hlo Gbz8xbTy5ZJGB3JE4WNeYT8EIm0OgBNlupPmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=Ax7OpCv154NL2/JETOIZVXqQ0DVVtaQ5dT5Tnh4F5h86r7uZU6jSjGpFjuCOa/Tpvh DLeaPlOqBbPJMD40HEVe6a8d12LO4RFux+gzOlB9kygczHIHaqaBgkJDp6yJcdoacCVr qSyafIIeJ49RJKsXEDIwU3Nxq/s6XzDRHLbhk= Message-ID: <48FD91A1.6020501@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:24:01 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Frequencies_was_Re=3A_AW=3A_AW=3A?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: <4EIgTC.A.dIG.lGZ_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:05 +0000 (UTC) George Ludwig schrieb: > There is a phenomena known as "beating".... > It's my belief that these beat frequencies, though subtle in most > musical contexts and certainly not perceived as a "third tone", are > nonetheless important psycho-acoustic cues that aid in spacialization > and "presence". And I'm relaly surprised that the audio community at > large hasn't figured this out a long time ago. Its because the beating frequency isn't a real/physical one. The difference frequency will only show up as real, if there is non linear distortion involved. This does happen also in the air, but the difference frequency would then be recorded as well... The main reason why higher sampling rates sound better, is avoided aliasing. It's almost impossible to create an analog filter which will pass all until 20 kHz and cutting all above 22.05 kHz. To create a filter that has a complete octave to do that is much easier to build. What makes the high end converters so expensive is the filter... The bad reputation of digital versus analog is due to bad implementation of converters in the beginning of the digital era btw... Another point of real sound in the air versus recorded sound from your stereo is spatialisation. Two sources (or 5) of sound are not the same as a continuum of sources... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:24:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 227D23BE82; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=5JV39gRc4jvoAsTADyn3I3kDnYSqP1Ps4rRe9kWfxlY=; b=izGd8TE9Pxv/G0PZMx42fYCVcruBkcp5XMzJBY55OMHVYTrVKTfI3HR1TZg9ssbkWY wIz9l5GtDp9bV5AFQb8CZElj9R5HHCFS/64esPW1ImSLkop8Mv2o8vUKoeDS2jcbuEOz NRYGU+D1m6kwzD5yG2kD0pOCkjwuDvuurC474= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=Qx85ucWrxv3t2534mUeWcBA1fjwAFlXevwV8Rxh8JXdETse76bBfO9E9Lxu1iNWsCp YuqvpNGGYWfF52n9W/JiCITwaSIsmNDdSke6I5fRQg/rx4NGgOpz8WsIwvzntesvF0cL u5zWXmhcilb6RkXDZ/jcw4n49hAcpTY5pcCOs= Message-ID: <48FD91B7.7080204@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:24:23 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: software for realtime MIDI processing (context-sensitive transforms) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: <58SIfC.A.ZKG.6GZ_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:27 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill schrieb: > Is there any (best free, but necessarily small) software solution which > allows me to do that in real time? Can e.g. MIDI OX do that? Pd would be able to do it, you can run a Pd patch without graphical UI, which might make it small enough... Max can do it as well, but you'd need a full Max to create it. The musician could run it with a max runtime for free. Max/Pd could also provide the sample player, a VST hoost and a looper if you want... The only drawback is the learning curve for both, but its worth it, it will pay off with each of these sorts of problems... That specific problem is easy to patch by the way... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:24:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4883BE79; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=NB6dNcAGVIZJZuHkFuH4tbJGkxa5FdyV9WC4gaP6gfg=; b=Kwbxkuq+2S3StjL10GJ6/+f4omquJkv+Ds1e/QLBWPe2PsFAFzukygEmETKTGmHWww aOccoU6kiiO2eymjahOBqbmN/5x9dm2zYRiqLxPc2UzrbL7V168amRU8JfezRx2g30g8 rCw5RViG4cirVgE0Rf7gCGTQ5XYfnYYX/p1KA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=mTvu5PLGaFANhJg89cHbO+7TFLjcqciaEoXlxaQbiTJFq2GdAV2AEtSKm2yxRE7/a7 YFi9oN/JBrjsmvKGAwSYvX9v8RE+NRcBrQ77SEOgWFXuXnyITvSpQD6gdmLqpDCioWLk XRbBYZTLXsAYXefpw78SZyL2HxCKsV7FYEQmQ= Message-ID: <48FD91D3.60908@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:24:51 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping upright bass? References: <9ea2f30b0810151221s392610b0t6c29064dc5d8b55b@mail.gmail.com> <307627.83196.qm@web34304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9ea2f30b0810181413u3034bdbclcba94e0bff0e8571@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0810181413u3034bdbclcba94e0bff0e8571@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Todd Matthews schrieb: > Is that just the nature of piezo pickups? Does anybody use some type > of hum or noise eliminator for loud live gigs? The nature of piezos is that they have extremley high impedance, whereas mics have a low impedance. If your preamp doesn't match the impedance, you get less signal which means more noise. Piezos need their preamp close to the pickup, because they also pickup electromagnetical noise more likely. But if you can feed the pickup signal into your head phones clean, just use the identical input as preamp... You could even use the headphone output and feed it into your ultralight, just turn down the volume... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:25:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB91C3BE92; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:25:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=S/OwlzT3efrDPbvmoLEW/Hiv7kkAiApW2qPJCAVjBgI=; b=vnGV2QyeywDATyVIyHQ9icIRNJUCq7vbSy2mY+MQfWGyMc7b9YTIJ9X5TvplACtd1O z9jlt+BXYGMMuUci4UbP951czLYdPnjxky1Tmndu+xyNoFQPnj8UHD1f0eIuz4O7fduO zWN3zD4JIQj/YB2Bnc0R/CxuvpUu8urhHTmcM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=Xo9PYBq1vSxMzojMCPpskAyZsWRE5IGPGxtAUs3y8D3M9myShf4e5eaKt9Kbkd2nIl O9AC7S152adpWYdf+P4yf1c1ihTTVH0b5PtCV6xsvGn3FZv2UIC9+fp/02HdmU6QoTCR olGRj0Hz/mnCN0ScJIr/nG+2rkvCzszJiMi3Y= Message-ID: <48FD91E4.8010205@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:25:08 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue References: <9ab0c76f0810181555r4860b608o88b4e9d282637992@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810181555r4860b608o88b4e9d282637992@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:25:10 +0000 (UTC) This is the most important day in your life, congrats, welcome to Icaue... mark francombe schrieb: > and the hints in this mail, make me want to stay with hardware. And they want me to stay with wetware... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:25:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9763BE7E; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=jyV+YoR17sRBpElufJ1LAtfl5YS/GenHDQgkX5SJxHQ=; b=XDOODnILsfuSNIyBs9orY6k+11T804Q45WF8+h27RLcfNMblqmvJQ2C0V4LabE6iRr 1JZIHgiRewurPUQTHkUUXRrN6cG8sCE+dME1RxKL3ruuZFwJyfT22ZH2JcHyJUP+oobv Zv2w/OvW+P8Z301FusHLLGFtZDUJZ+33yJyFw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=ZMFP9c42DRAjLwSIm6ecZKxr/Jh8h60hFRryzwiu6vsi0a3OhBzMGuAI/fm4sIwQxu 66nfahOXMbzjNU7EZrq6N05S/yYhnVXGsjPzFlurLC8+fD+OlHsr3jrAHhckZBDriyu7 8tMM5skkrlY/Mfp5lSoLL8USNE8pmuFjPd2QY= Message-ID: <48FD9205.8080206@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:25:41 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: AW: OT: new Macbook =?ISO-8859-1?Q?w=EDthOUT_Firewire_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3A=28?= References: <48F783DA.8000601@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <48F783DA.8000601@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >> So taking all of that into consideration, I can see (not that I >> actually did listening tests here) that it may very well be >> possible that there is an advantage of 96kHz over 48kHz - other >> than loading my computer. van Sinn schrieb: > This is common belief, often debated and not holding water. If belief is debated, what would you expect?... ;-) I can hear easily the difference of 96 kHz versus 44.1 kHz on a cheap converter. (I did the listening test on M-Audio...) But still I work with 44.1... (Its still good enough for live music...) The reason is obvious (aliasing) and a pricier interface might turn the difference down. I guess the good interfaces convert at the higher rates anyway, and downsample inside of the box. Once you are in the digital domain, you can easily get rid of all higher artifacts and work with a lower sampling rate to gain performance... RICHARD SALES schrieb: > Is it the 50KHZ I'm hearing or something about the capsule? Don't > know. But the CD is free from Earthworks - get it! - it's very > puzzling. Especially if they distribute a CD with a sampling frequency of 44.1 kHz! Its not puzzling, its marketing... Of course you hear a difference, its different mics. But what does the difference mean? Which sounds better? If you make the musician believe Music is about sound quality, they have a strong marketing argument, its the only field they can compete at all... It is interesting that most musicians don't bother with listening tests at all, and that points to that fact, that other things are much more important than that last bit of "quality" you might gain... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:25:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E94663BE97; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=pR26F+GONbkHoPC97cKFpI1CzvUgA1urxSaapBZNPms=; b=oxIQ26hmZQDEaWfNHeUDMMkA89OKY/+PXmWlINAee88YzqO4b6Qfaeegrb/ryfqtwn Ah6wl7/CPBXzp5U/61bMPaelUHAH/8x1mqwyDS0+S3whVKB6GncM5jWEheqse/PIi8VZ +ITX56Gsb5f/5uAuyUMqVzQlvKYQ5rigstItQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=r+bsCAPyFPLgYd8UZn68U0pjjl0Z+gSEX7pu6bzj/HuR6rBHDb+5VBwnaBO+NtjKY3 5sxbTCzZCHyHhz1bg9J11pIHzTsP0w+tqj52u6YomfGbfABA5kr7eQV8azBGhpm6BdJU y5O1gM/cFffT+A35Trt+KQPJ0mm0CTLYq0hRo= Message-ID: <48FD9212.2090004@googlemail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:25:54 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:25:56 +0000 (UTC) mark francombe schrieb: > I´m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, just > maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly the > other side of the planet can have an effect too... I wish Hilde and you the best, you're included in my prayer loop... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:38:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 156BE3BE80; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4uk+eqzy14nQGhXdVTNXv0MtfbrscBh9z3NyAATvxno=; b=H0+TaW+/4xEtrpka9C09n0xk+V0aoKNeWiTz0cQ4/NF6adfn46/5nFWvToQw4OWRoL SXnAiwq/gk0ORRzkPdqYJNt2rxkdgQIxWj6EIsutPw4Jv228Cz9KgEkW+Ya5At49JQTv adOUGcCvq+72D/Fr1ucvbo5K7GhNSuKU6RJjA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=kLiguiU8NglhXxV7Wz0kaX0b1YkdB+IWRXwJyW+KwhqJy5dRfuJUI6vafLSi4FyhHg 4e2SNmh+k52vhj2r1q3+KLUJvcILv4i6SErmvOYCavo+3rSdePvWVahirvfYd7MrT3/Y WDg320FJgUKVJ+R6aXhAEjRgmWiqvZdT1GxKs= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:38:38 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <1lCyVC.A.NhG.QUZ_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:38:40 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Nick wrote: > Hey everyone, > > I'm new to the list. I have been into music for ages but never had the money > to get any equipment so my Evolution MK-461C and a stolen copy of Reason 3 > were my only tools until I got into college and got a job :P Anyways, now I > use reason 4 (legally) and my same keyboard and I recently bought a Kaoss > Pad. I'd really like to get a setup that would allow me to do the following > (in the long term order I wish to be able to do them): > > - DJ with bpm syncing for smooth song transitions and do effects using my > kaoss pad, eventually leading to mashup DJing > - I'd like to turn the songs I DJ into new tracks on the fly using looping > techniques and incorporate some of my own sounds via reason (possibly > rewired to ableton Live if that's a good idea, I'm currently trialing Live). > - Eventually, I'd like to create completely original > drum'n'bass/breakbeat/electronica music as a live looper (and then come to > the santa cruz live looping festival, where I first saw looping, and where > I'm from :) > > I don't have a huge budget right now but I'm working so if there is > something I definitely need to purchase, I can work towards earning it soon. > I'd like to know what software and hardware you think I should get and plan > to get in order to achieve those three things, with the eventual completely > original live composing goal as by far the most important one. I prefer > doing effects via the kaoss pad by far because I enjoy using hardware more > than software, and so I'm also wondering if it might be a good idea just to > get a second kaoss pad [thus giving me 8 loops and allowing me to stack > effects]? > > Thanks in advance! > - Quine Ableton Live with Reason 4 ReWired seems to meet all your needs. You may also expand into running looping plug-ins inside Live (SooperLooper, Augustus Loop and the soon to come virtual EDP and Mobius). All those looping plug-ins are different, so you should check them out to find which of them will work best for you. As for control surface hardware you can use anything that sends out MIDI. You also need a good audio interface hardware and I suggest a firewire connected box because you won't need an extra power adapter with the Macs. Firewire has the advantage to USB2 that its streaming capability doesn't flicker while other tasks are maintained on the computer (might be dood when DJ-ing). -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From egonaaugustin_cbnnig2000_remit@yahoo.co.jp Tue Oct 21 08:40:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 477 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:37 UTC Received: from web2405.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp (web2405.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp [203.216.226.121]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 690933BE75 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:40:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 58889 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2008 08:32:31 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=yj20050223; d=yahoo.co.jp; h=Message-ID:Received:X-RocketDSI:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cWKaAC8kYN8F1+JDSHrgcIY8lVbwHT+mZZkgFEfFBOSL2rv+qXIlj0tKifiXbNI+oErE+RFvMtihfJfVDP/24RvgLiEyAxNkBxTes2VAV1GYPzi92nDkRcgD1d0ON3HR ; Message-ID: <20081021083231.58885.qmail@web2405.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp> Received: from [38.105.86.202] by web2405.mail.tnz.yahoo.co.jp via HTTP; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:32:31 JST X-RocketDSI: i=203.216.226.121;s=w Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:32:31 +0900 (JST) From: AUGUSTIN EGONA Reply-To: info_cbnnig2008@rocketmail.com Subject: RE $2,6 MILLION ATM SWIFT DUAL DEBIT CARD NOTIFICATION To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1808540053-1224577951=:57444" --0-1808540053-1224577951=:57444 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp $B?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$r$*CN$i$;$7$^$9?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9!'(B egonaaugustin_cbnnig2000_remit@yahoo.co.jp Following your inability to meet the necessary financial obligations which are mandatory for the release of your fund,the presidency in its magnanimity has approved $2,6 m through ATM swift Dual Debite card.send your phone number/ address where you want them to send the card AUGUSTIN EGONA - AUGUSTIN EGONA --0-1808540053-1224577951=:57444 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp
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--0-1808540053-1224577951=:57444-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 08:57:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36FB33BE7E; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 95481257/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.158.195/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.158.195 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AoABAHY2/UhPTp7D/2dsb2JhbAAIxE6DUIM4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,456,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="95481257" Message-ID: <48FD9A00.6010406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:59:44 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Frequencies_was_Re=3A_AW=3A_AW=3A?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48FD91A1.6020501@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <48FD91A1.6020501@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3Ankm.A.55G.FmZ_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 08:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Stefan Tiedje wrote: > The main reason why higher sampling rates sound better, is avoided > aliasing. It's almost impossible to create an analog filter which will > pass all until 20 kHz and cutting all above 22.05 kHz. and that ideal filter still introduces a lot of phase changes below 20kHz >To create a > filter that has a complete octave to do that is much easier to build. > > What makes the high end converters so expensive is the filter... It's also hard to make the clock really stable, and more so as the frequency increases. I've heard that sampling at 192kHz often sounds worse than at lower sample rates due to the increased jitter of a less stable clock. > > The bad reputation of digital versus analog is due to bad implementation > of converters in the beginning of the digital era btw... Strange days, almost everybody claimed that the sound was an improvement. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 09:01:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F17023BE7F; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:01:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=icYM8n5K6+HSVNBdVwolQ6GMZ8v85x+Kgve1/n6P+MU=; b=I2yM/ACdlOeZyRASrAz8r32DZS47QxGfK06byrNBrp6uf+p0BC1HaYenwG45Vy2cJM 1yHTW+hzf6aFkVcSQS7W4LipY+y+xVNZKpiFrrccZfx0g/+l1aHCiFl2CnP6ZTjKhSpI iB4n2KJCNZc1LxaejhUabIXrFjLZuzy2+QYpo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=VzQRI10fKeUctntss4AzoFT7UnwXWPRKBDomMx+TVuF5VorrZVipcr6thHka0i/wNH f8r+gYseX6ZDw1RU3xX5k8RvWyzx4iTjAgq2CEkLWJcsXKBk5h+xU41e3X+ZE+d3eO4X B36cWHkdOVXB2txoRz+RFloPhHTZObAs1uKZ0= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:01:04 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2514_14059457.1224579664212" References: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0628c9e3a18d7195 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:01:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2514_14059457.1224579664212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for all the advice Per, it sounds like my goals are more realistic than I thought :) One thing I've been wondering is: I love manipulating audio with the kaoss pad, but there are two things I'd really like to do: 1) manipulate only PART of the incoming signal (ie the vocals, the bass, etc). I know a lot of the effects can target a frequency range, but would it be possible for me to send the audio to some kind of mixer, which would then send a signal to the kaoss and another to my speakers, and would also let me only send a certain frequency range to the kaoss pad at a time? 2) is there any way I can get the audio out from the kaoss into my computer and then, somehow, to my speakers (I'd assume i'd set the kaoss pad to send, resulting in the speakers playing the original track + kaoss effected track just like my current comp->pad->speaker setup). That way I could process sound via the pad but still record it via ableton live so I wouldn't have to buy a $1k+ hardware looper. If it's not possible to do 2) up there, and I can't get audio from my kaoss back into my comp to be looped, what is a good hardware looper to look at? Also, any recommendations on firewire audio boxes? I'd prefer inexpensive, but I'll wait until I can afford a $1k one if that's the only way to ensure insanely small lag and drift (I'm very particular about everything being perfectly on time). Lastly (sorry if my email is too long!), are there any other devices out there for effects/sound manipulation that are similar to a kaoss pad? I would really like to stack effects (I think two would be plenty though) but the x-y touch pad is, for certain, the most natural way to manipulate sound for me. So, be it another kaoss pad (if that's actually useful) or something totally different, I'd love to hear of anything else that fits my style. Thanks again! Quine On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Nick wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > > > I'm new to the list. I have been into music for ages but never had the > money > > to get any equipment so my Evolution MK-461C and a stolen copy of Reason > 3 > > were my only tools until I got into college and got a job :P Anyways, now > I > > use reason 4 (legally) and my same keyboard and I recently bought a Kaoss > > Pad. I'd really like to get a setup that would allow me to do the > following > > (in the long term order I wish to be able to do them): > > > > - DJ with bpm syncing for smooth song transitions and do effects using my > > kaoss pad, eventually leading to mashup DJing > > - I'd like to turn the songs I DJ into new tracks on the fly using > looping > > techniques and incorporate some of my own sounds via reason (possibly > > rewired to ableton Live if that's a good idea, I'm currently trialing > Live). > > - Eventually, I'd like to create completely original > > drum'n'bass/breakbeat/electronica music as a live looper (and then come > to > > the santa cruz live looping festival, where I first saw looping, and > where > > I'm from :) > > > > I don't have a huge budget right now but I'm working so if there is > > something I definitely need to purchase, I can work towards earning it > soon. > > I'd like to know what software and hardware you think I should get and > plan > > to get in order to achieve those three things, with the eventual > completely > > original live composing goal as by far the most important one. I prefer > > doing effects via the kaoss pad by far because I enjoy using hardware > more > > than software, and so I'm also wondering if it might be a good idea just > to > > get a second kaoss pad [thus giving me 8 loops and allowing me to stack > > effects]? > > > > Thanks in advance! > > - Quine > > > Ableton Live with Reason 4 ReWired seems to meet all your needs. You > may also expand into running looping plug-ins inside Live > (SooperLooper, Augustus Loop and the soon to come virtual EDP and > Mobius). All those looping plug-ins are different, so you should check > them out to find which of them will work best for you. As for control > surface hardware you can use anything that sends out MIDI. You also > need a good audio interface hardware and I suggest a firewire > connected box because you won't need an extra power adapter with the > Macs. Firewire has the advantage to USB2 that its streaming capability > doesn't flicker while other tasks are maintained on the computer > (might be dood when DJ-ing). > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > ------=_Part_2514_14059457.1224579664212 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Thanks for all the advice Per, it sounds like my goals are= more realistic than I thought :)

One thing I've been wondering = is: I love manipulating audio with the kaoss pad, but there are two things = I'd really like to do: 1) manipulate only PART of the incoming signal (= ie the vocals, the bass, etc). I know a lot of the effects can target a fre= quency range, but would it be possible for me to send the audio to some kin= d of mixer, which would then send a signal to the kaoss and another to my s= peakers, and would also let me only send a certain frequency range to the k= aoss pad at a time? 2) is there any way I can get the audio out from the ka= oss into my computer and then, somehow, to my speakers (I'd assume i= 9;d set the kaoss pad to send, resulting in the speakers playing the origin= al track + kaoss effected track just like my current comp->pad->speak= er setup). That way I could process sound via the pad but still record it v= ia ableton live so I wouldn't have to buy a $1k+ hardware looper.

If it's not possible to do 2) up there, and I can't get audio f= rom my kaoss back into my comp to be looped, what is a good hardware looper to look at?

Also, any recommendations on firewire audio boxes? I'd = prefer inexpensive, but I'll wait until I can afford a $1k one if that&= #39;s the only way to ensure insanely small lag and drift (I'm very par= ticular about everything being perfectly on time).

Lastly (sorry if my email is too long!), are there any other devices ou= t there for effects/sound manipulation that are similar to a kaoss pad? I w= ould really like to stack effects (I think two would be plenty though) but = the x-y touch pad is, for certain, the most natural way to manipulate sound= for me. So, be it another kaoss pad (if that's actually useful) or som= ething totally different, I'd love to hear of anything else that fits m= y style.

Thanks again!
Quine


On Tue, Oc= t 21, 2008 at 1:38 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Nick= <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm new to the list. I have been into music for ages but never had= the money
> to get any equipment so my Evolution MK-461C and a stolen copy of Reas= on 3
> were my only tools until I got into college and got a job :P Anyways, = now I
> use reason 4 (legally) and my same keyboard and I recently bought a Ka= oss
> Pad. I'd really like to get a setup that would allow me to do the = following
> (in the long term order I wish to be able to do them):
>
> - DJ with bpm syncing for smooth song transitions and do effects using= my
> kaoss pad, eventually leading to mashup DJing
> - I'd like to turn the songs I DJ into new tracks on the fly using= looping
> techniques and incorporate some of my own sounds via reason (possibly<= br> > rewired to ableton Live if that's a good idea, I'm currently t= rialing Live).
> - Eventually, I'd like to create completely original
> drum'n'bass/breakbeat/electronica music as a live looper (and = then come to
> the santa cruz live looping festival, where I first saw looping, and w= here
> I'm from :)
>
> I don't have a huge budget right now but I'm working so if the= re is
> something I definitely need to purchase, I can work towards earning it= soon.
> I'd like to know what software and hardware you think I should get= and plan
> to get in order to achieve those three things, with the eventual compl= etely
> original live composing goal as by far the most important one. I prefe= r
> doing effects via the kaoss pad by far because I enjoy using hardware = more
> than software, and so I'm also wondering if it might be a good ide= a just to
> get a second kaoss pad [thus giving me 8 loops and allowing me to stac= k
> effects]?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> - Quine


Ableton Live with Reason 4 ReWired seems to meet all your needs= . You
may also expand into running looping plug-ins inside Live
(SooperLooper, Augustus Loop and the soon to come virtual EDP and
Mobius). All those looping plug-ins are different, so you should check
them out to find which of them will work best for you. As for control
surface hardware you can use anything that sends out MIDI. You also
need a good audio interface hardware and I suggest a firewire
connected box because you won't need an extra power adapter with the Macs. Firewire has the advantage to USB2 that its streaming capability
doesn't flicker while other tasks are maintained on the computer
(might be dood when DJ-ing).

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedi= sh)
www.looproom.com = (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------=_Part_2514_14059457.1224579664212-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 09:51:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C3BE3BE8E; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:51:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=6L3rzdW5iECdNqq5hAbIth5ljd0yILWvbub1oNbU07A=; b=S0LTWX1CnOvzgVVuOcfuCHJw0eO6sG0WW5EM3ep/i1UkWD6YdbVBnisxl9t7wBQABB rTXp5hNgWFpBWFMH3p2gkthfZW5gX+U+f7OwW8pRcM6Yst9wEl0bl3proxrIES86UXQy oT8SO3uOFlQFo+eTtsfF+vuB6fE4c0X2DIMp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=MCL47p9XzWAyd7PQIQ1Z/Fe9zFzaY/PRA3BlfbmcZin0vZG1BSKQV7G/dPeXSD8E57 bg+sMbVrXAx+UnnvXfQLI+lb2fAAO6gpq+CZZesTv8hwtfwiEFolSGyZvqxYpjBbc3RV 5msqm4nHJpjZbS3JS38eR7fqw1XjnjtLzsVUk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810210251x7bd81cfg4a0865b6aba3dd7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:51:09 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:51:11 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Nick wrote: > Thanks for all the advice Per, it sounds like my goals are more realistic > than I thought :) The challenge these days is not to find good tools but to figure out the best ways to use them to get the results you envision. > One thing I've been wondering is: I love manipulating audio with the kaoss > pad, but there are two things I'd really like to do: 1) manipulate only PART > of the incoming signal (ie the vocals, the bass, etc). I know a lot of the > effects can target a frequency range, but would it be possible for me to > send the audio to some kind of mixer, which would then send a signal to the > kaoss and another to my speakers, and would also let me only send a certain > frequency range to the kaoss pad at a time? Ableton Live already IS that kind of mixer. Given you are using it with a multi in/output audio interface. All inputs and outputs are displayed in Live for routing. So as long as your vocals go into the computer through one particular audio interface input channel you should be able to rout it anywhere, duplicate it for parallel routing and further processing. 2) is there any way I can get > the audio out from the kaoss into my computer and then, somehow, to my > speakers (I'd assume i'd set the kaoss pad to send, resulting in the > speakers playing the original track + kaoss effected track just like my > current comp->pad->speaker setup). That way I could process sound via the > pad but still record it via ableton live so I wouldn't have to buy a $1k+ > hardware looper. Same answer as above applies here as well ;-) However, you should be aware of the fact that a live audio input is being a bit delayed (latency) by the digitizing process. Same goes when making the signal analog at the output. This is a matter of about twenty milliseconds and may or may not be an issue, depending on the situation. Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a live input to any audio interface output. > If it's not possible to do 2) up there, and I can't get audio from my kaoss > back into my comp to be looped, what is a good hardware looper to look at? Only you can answer that. Depends on what functions you need. Go to a music store and try them out so you can buy the one that you like. > Also, any recommendations on firewire audio boxes? I'd prefer inexpensive, Inexpensive audio interfaces means less good mic pre amps. If not using acoustic mic inputs you will not suffer from that though. I have an Ecco AudioFire2 that sounds as good as my RME FireFace400 (most bang for the buck when also considering mic input pre amp quality) as far as analog output fidelity goes. That's one of the least expensive boxes that still offers a digital input, something I wouldn't want to miss out on because it makes the box compatible with other gear now and in the future. Other good audio interfaces in that lowest price range are also available - but the AudioFire2 looks cool! ;-) I regard the RME FireFace400 as most bang for the buck when also considering mic input pre amp quality. It sounds really good and to get a better mic input sound you would have to pay a lot more. > but I'll wait until I can afford a $1k one if that's the only way to ensure > insanely small lag and drift (I'm very particular about everything being > perfectly on time). Latency is not smaller with a more expensive audio interface. As said, what the bigger price tag brings are better mic input sound and useful utility features. Software like Ableton Live automatically compensates for the latency when playing back audio. This means both AD/DA conversion latency and locally created latency due to software effect plug-ins on the channel. Software loopers usually compensate for the AD/DA conversion latency. But this compensation does not apply to a real-time live audio input signal! This is because the software needs to know in advance what audio is incoming (lookahead functionality) in order to time shift the playback. > Lastly (sorry if my email is too long!), are there any other devices out > there for effects/sound manipulation that are similar to a kaoss pad? I > would really like to stack effects (I think two would be plenty though) but > the x-y touch pad is, for certain, the most natural way to manipulate sound > for me. So, be it another kaoss pad (if that's actually useful) or something > totally different, I'd love to hear of anything else that fits my style. You should read the Ableton Live manual, the chapter on its built-in effects! Live has some really nice effect plug-ins that can be controlled by the Kaoss Pad over MIDI. You can also do a search at the Live forum for inspiration: http://www.ableton.com/forum/index.php -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 10:01:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08D673BE82; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ke2NhTmVZ3pSHfajGdkcKZJskr9hyVjo/CgDhVd0ELE=; b=ARAgifIQVoxXDABy8glHePTBty75RLhYceWT3nqkJiEvaK5KnvR/DzmJ286ACRZ6Fn yAsCdbZQ+lOnFykAYRGM1kWD0t2QAXp/431WvAj8Nq4PF4xgeeVfAlDOFPLfHuKhQBFZ b1RUGhM097h8gKenttv+2zKEPUX1ER17B29lg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=gE4/lKk+8j5FQ5QgVzlr5iXMS9uurwyVJDVniccLECxEwnsWU3plhkj0GrMirR6L5f L6UQMFu78bwdzD/NJ8qZE9Xdi1k/TT2FFtvYUf9MJIQUl67O0Jn5SsZXjs5MjQoI8hXI oO7fsnIQvg2cbVB9+umTdZhg7WbGqPwU2lCPo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810210301o26bb727aw88564dcbc4cadb36@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:01:11 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_Frequencies_was_Re:_AW:_AW:_O?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?T:_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_:(?= In-Reply-To: <48FD9A00.6010406@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48FD91A1.6020501@googlemail.com> <48FD9A00.6010406@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:01:13 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:59 AM, andy butler wrote: > It's also hard to make the clock really stable, and more so as the frequency > increases. > I've heard that sampling at 192kHz often sounds worse than at lower sample > rates > due to the increased jitter of a less stable clock. A college looked into this, did some comparative tests, and reported that the best general fidelity was found at around 88,2 or 96 kHz. I have no reason to doubt that, although I myself stick to 41,1 kHz for creativity reasons (or 48kkHz when producing for video finalizing, for technical reasons). -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 10:18:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B02D3BE80; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:18:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=T2uxClTOF4447o+sKozA4e3CoNeff6TfkNiwZAMlyBw=; b=gWl3w+l/rzhysq7IT/uo4PxKruYm0nuhKwvDpOVORAE+Uc+25BubDFW3s+Fvy28n0x zHPpI+V/YLVmk6t/aUVJzWilPAhz9BmUjgQjTxu0LhtTNeZe1kxZNPX3SafjExiUDaYe zQxORmP4EDCuxoSTPdERo+kIc0UGRBgZxoEyU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=JjvzKfqoHCujtwS6otAe6Z16VvA3KSi+HcLfULWechr6d9BR4Rsrx612PzSt5jGw+Q ONJ79SZzN4dhBhIr5okk6HOvAkRBedClOLpGST8XLZ2lG7TEL+Gz1Pw6iQTB28qDGUcc ffnwl1M6jd8skI5kxu/1vAgf/7nC1AURa8GbU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 03:18:52 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810210251x7bd81cfg4a0865b6aba3dd7a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3198_15197807.1224584332652" References: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810210251x7bd81cfg4a0865b6aba3dd7a@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 02f877f62ad1dad0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:18:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3198_15197807.1224584332652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow, I can't thank you enough for all your help :) So, am I correct in thinking if I buy a firewire audio interface such as one of the two you recommended, and it has say, two inputs and two outputs, i could have it routed so audio goes comp>interface>kaoss>back to interface>into comp >speakers thus allowing me to completely control what audio goes o the speakers and what goes to the kaoss pad then back in to my computer so it can be recorded and looped and then switched to speakers when it's ready to be mixed in. if i can do all that with just a firewire audio interface and live, i'll be a very happy and not broke college student :) as for lag, i'm not quite sure what you mean by this: "Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a live input to any audio interface output." does that mean with something like the audiofire2, i could connect the eighth inch connector to the phones port and select that as input for a track in ableton, allowing me to record straight from the kaoss pad with no lag? id definitely like to minimize or eliminate lag, as im quite bad at compensating for it. thanks again! -Quine On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Nick wrote: > > Thanks for all the advice Per, it sounds like my goals are more realistic > > than I thought :) > > The challenge these days is not to find good tools but to figure out > the best ways to use them to get the results you envision. > > > > One thing I've been wondering is: I love manipulating audio with the > kaoss > > pad, but there are two things I'd really like to do: 1) manipulate only > PART > > of the incoming signal (ie the vocals, the bass, etc). I know a lot of > the > > effects can target a frequency range, but would it be possible for me to > > send the audio to some kind of mixer, which would then send a signal to > the > > kaoss and another to my speakers, and would also let me only send a > certain > > frequency range to the kaoss pad at a time? > > Ableton Live already IS that kind of mixer. Given you are using it > with a multi in/output audio interface. All inputs and outputs are > displayed in Live for routing. So as long as your vocals go into the > computer through one particular audio interface input channel you > should be able to rout it anywhere, duplicate it for parallel routing > and further processing. > > > 2) is there any way I can get > > the audio out from the kaoss into my computer and then, somehow, to my > > speakers (I'd assume i'd set the kaoss pad to send, resulting in the > > speakers playing the original track + kaoss effected track just like my > > current comp->pad->speaker setup). That way I could process sound via the > > pad but still record it via ableton live so I wouldn't have to buy a $1k+ > > hardware looper. > > Same answer as above applies here as well ;-) > > However, you should be aware of the fact that a live audio input is > being a bit delayed (latency) by the digitizing process. Same goes > when making the signal analog at the output. This is a matter of about > twenty milliseconds and may or may not be an issue, depending on the > situation. > > Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input > streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So > there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero > latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency > is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a > live input to any audio interface output. > > > > > If it's not possible to do 2) up there, and I can't get audio from my > kaoss > > back into my comp to be looped, what is a good hardware looper to look > at? > > Only you can answer that. Depends on what functions you need. Go to a > music store and try them out so you can buy the one that you like. > > > > Also, any recommendations on firewire audio boxes? I'd prefer > inexpensive, > > Inexpensive audio interfaces means less good mic pre amps. If not > using acoustic mic inputs you will not suffer from that though. I have > an Ecco AudioFire2 that sounds as good as my RME FireFace400 (most > bang for the buck when also considering mic input pre amp quality) as > far as analog output fidelity goes. That's one of the least expensive > boxes that still offers a digital input, something I wouldn't want to > miss out on because it makes the box compatible with other gear now > and in the future. Other good audio interfaces in that lowest price > range are also available - but the AudioFire2 looks cool! ;-) > > I regard the RME FireFace400 as most bang for the buck when also > considering mic input pre amp quality. It sounds really good and to > get a better mic input sound you would have to pay a lot more. > > > > but I'll wait until I can afford a $1k one if that's the only way to > ensure > > insanely small lag and drift (I'm very particular about everything being > > perfectly on time). > > Latency is not smaller with a more expensive audio interface. As said, > what the bigger price tag brings are better mic input sound and useful > utility features. Software like Ableton Live automatically compensates > for the latency when playing back audio. This means both AD/DA > conversion latency and locally created latency due to software effect > plug-ins on the channel. Software loopers usually compensate for the > AD/DA conversion latency. > > But this compensation does not apply to a real-time live audio input > signal! This is because the software needs to know in advance what > audio is incoming (lookahead functionality) in order to time shift the > playback. > > > > Lastly (sorry if my email is too long!), are there any other devices out > > there for effects/sound manipulation that are similar to a kaoss pad? I > > would really like to stack effects (I think two would be plenty though) > but > > the x-y touch pad is, for certain, the most natural way to manipulate > sound > > for me. So, be it another kaoss pad (if that's actually useful) or > something > > totally different, I'd love to hear of anything else that fits my style. > > > You should read the Ableton Live manual, the chapter on its built-in > effects! Live has some really nice effect plug-ins that can be > controlled by the Kaoss Pad over MIDI. You can also do a search at the > Live forum for inspiration: > http://www.ableton.com/forum/index.php > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > ------=_Part_3198_15197807.1224584332652 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow, I can't thank you enough for all your help :)

So, am I correct in thinking if I buy a firewire audio interface such as one of the two you recommended, and it has say, two inputs and two outputs, i could have it routed so audio goes

comp>interface>kaoss>back to interface>into comp
                         >speakers

thus allowing me to completely control what audio goes o the speakers and what goes to the kaoss pad then back in to my computer so it can be recorded and looped and then switched to speakers when it's ready to be mixed in.

if i can do all that with just a firewire audio interface and live, i'll be a very happy and not broke college student :)

as for lag, i'm not quite sure what you mean by this:

"Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input
streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So
there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero
latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency
is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a
live input to any audio interface output."

does that mean with something like the audiofire2, i could connect the eighth inch connector to the phones port and select that as input for a track in ableton, allowing me to record straight from the kaoss pad with no lag? id definitely like to minimize or eliminate lag, as im quite bad at compensating for it.

thanks again!
-Quine


On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for all the advice Per, it sounds like my goals are more realistic
> than I thought :)

The challenge these days is not to find good tools but to figure out
the best ways to use them to get the results you envision.


> One thing I've been wondering is: I love manipulating audio with the kaoss
> pad, but there are two things I'd really like to do: 1) manipulate only PART
> of the incoming signal (ie the vocals, the bass, etc). I know a lot of the
> effects can target a frequency range, but would it be possible for me to
> send the audio to some kind of mixer, which would then send a signal to the
> kaoss and another to my speakers, and would also let me only send a certain
> frequency range to the kaoss pad at a time?

Ableton Live already IS that kind of mixer. Given you are using it
with a multi in/output audio interface. All inputs and outputs are
displayed in Live for routing. So as long as your vocals go into the
computer through one particular audio interface input channel you
should be able to rout it anywhere, duplicate it for parallel routing
and further processing.


2) is there any way I can get
> the audio out from the kaoss into my computer and then, somehow, to my
> speakers (I'd assume i'd set the kaoss pad to send, resulting in the
> speakers playing the original track + kaoss effected track just like my
> current comp->pad->speaker setup). That way I could process sound via the
> pad but still record it via ableton live so I wouldn't have to buy a $1k+
> hardware looper.

Same answer as above applies here as well ;-)

However, you should be aware of the fact that a live audio input is
being a bit delayed (latency) by the digitizing process. Same goes
when making the signal analog at the output. This is a matter of about
twenty milliseconds and may or may not be an issue, depending on the
situation.

Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input
streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So
there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero
latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency
is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a
live input to any audio interface output.



> If it's not possible to do 2) up there, and I can't get audio from my kaoss
> back into my comp to be looped, what is a good hardware looper to look at?

Only you can answer that. Depends on what functions you need. Go to a
music store and try them out so you can buy the one that you like.


> Also, any recommendations on firewire audio boxes? I'd prefer inexpensive,

Inexpensive audio interfaces means less good mic pre amps. If not
using acoustic mic inputs you will not suffer from that though. I have
an Ecco AudioFire2 that sounds as good as my RME FireFace400 (most
bang for the buck when also considering mic input pre amp quality) as
far as analog output fidelity goes. That's one of the least expensive
boxes that still offers a digital input, something I wouldn't want to
miss out on because it makes the box compatible with other gear now
and in the future. Other good audio interfaces in that lowest price
range are also available - but the AudioFire2 looks cool! ;-)

I regard the RME FireFace400 as most bang for the buck when also
considering mic input pre amp quality. It sounds really good and to
get a better mic input sound you would have to pay a lot more.


> but I'll wait until I can afford a $1k one if that's the only way to ensure
> insanely small lag and drift (I'm very particular about everything being
> perfectly on time).

Latency is not smaller with a more expensive audio interface. As said,
what the bigger price tag brings are better mic input sound and useful
utility features. Software like Ableton Live automatically compensates
for the latency when playing back audio. This means both AD/DA
conversion latency and locally created latency due to software effect
plug-ins on the channel. Software loopers usually compensate for the
AD/DA conversion latency.

But this compensation does not apply to a real-time live audio input
signal! This is because the software needs to know in advance what
audio is incoming (lookahead functionality) in order to time shift the
playback.


> Lastly (sorry if my email is too long!), are there any other devices out
> there for effects/sound manipulation that are similar to a kaoss pad? I
> would really like to stack effects (I think two would be plenty though) but
> the x-y touch pad is, for certain, the most natural way to manipulate sound
> for me. So, be it another kaoss pad (if that's actually useful) or something
> totally different, I'd love to hear of anything else that fits my style.


You should read the Ableton Live manual, the chapter on its built-in
effects! Live has some really nice effect plug-ins that can be
controlled by the Kaoss Pad over MIDI. You can also do a search at the
Live forum for inspiration:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/index.php

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------=_Part_3198_15197807.1224584332652-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 10:38:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16503BE84; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:38:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hNRmWLnn9RBRZk+fSn+hpF7y/ZRpWt5DzwgSkqDawgY=; b=HSLP0t3v0gPinYU9r7zxiphvMdLlhvENHpvCdZ3JenZuGncpFeGdbKye4AjjKl3sjg GPRRPZksSa4Uhm89TAmu5Vo4mn7HR3X7IB+V0NvIjM44/U3+JVjGLhdjcYe7xoGKstDf zZxsu9rIaBOvXZKDeCRz+u3UUjATnQ5ym4tCg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=xOveE8fwugOLKITTEeMny0BEYJoMwOWOVd6h0Mg3GqZ21w6dFkXKxn/x7qWEJRZIwq qHwENjHfkVpHNw0Y19Ycw1+njkx9P/Kye7V43f8W2NhlqRTQg2btj1iAIpLxWqSuePGO KK7ZTdZtUICEf4Gr3GHjP4cfo+7k8aj4JX2Qg= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810210338x6c2c71c5hf72bf901f345c8b1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:38:43 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810210251x7bd81cfg4a0865b6aba3dd7a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:38:44 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Nick wrote: > Wow, I can't thank you enough for all your help :) > > So, am I correct in thinking if I buy a firewire audio interface such as one > of the two you recommended, and it has say, two inputs and two outputs, i > could have it routed so audio goes Well, it takes two inputs to record a stereo signal. > comp>interface>kaoss>back to interface>into comp > >speakers Yes, that would work. Can't tell if timing Kaoss vs Computer may be an issue though. I personally used exactly that routing to run a physical looer, the EDP, in parallel with Live on a Powerbook and did not have an issue with latency, but stuff like this tend to depend on the music style as well. DnB needs to sync well, you'll have to try it out to see if it works. > thus allowing me to completely control what audio goes o the speakers and > what goes to the kaoss pad then back in to my computer so it can be recorded > and looped and then switched to speakers when it's ready to be mixed in. > > if i can do all that with just a firewire audio interface and live, i'll be > a very happy and not broke college student :) > > as for lag, i'm not quite sure what you mean by this: > > "Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input > streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So > there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero > latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency > is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a > live input to any audio interface output." > > does that mean with something like the audiofire2, i could connect the > eighth inch connector to the phones port and select that as input for a > track in ableton, allowing me to record straight from the kaoss pad with no > lag? id definitely like to minimize or eliminate lag, as im quite bad at > compensating for it. No. It means that you will be able to route an input directly to the phones output INSIDE the audio interface - without even sending that signal into the computer (this working around the AD conversion latency). Not sure you need this info, but now you at least know about it which may come in handy in the future. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 11:16:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C0AC3BE7C; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=1+PgiEwlSNJN6OkXz6R5coLB2KRp78cOk4ytT7lSTDg=; b=faQZH1D6Rg3FTT/EYe7TTAe4M12IM9V60md3Z5Ucs4UoFm2IieOtkNsvXbn76JZ5zJ XdzLzyb6s7LCc8yVKbqKB76J+ULt6pKGaxypAQT3f/gLiM7JwO2DWIS6mQMcSv+GnjBg k720Y0GeMqvfUUZsgmD1/ZWE16+TGEa4DlyTg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=F68riNi4pfK74D8ZpzE8NDsreQsWO3w1s6KKe7OC6agLjF0IrzUoNg3zZOmgvI3lcq hxemmemt3hiunHgESIKKeFIrY0ZHLLrfzSr1TaILlJ6YWodqLvcCsrl4YLeB3rNQ1Ze6 N39NLKZp6uU6f1EYEmxt5GquBchDyfoMAhVZ8= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:16:46 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810210338x6c2c71c5hf72bf901f345c8b1@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4307_9852978.1224587806439" References: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810210251x7bd81cfg4a0865b6aba3dd7a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810210338x6c2c71c5hf72bf901f345c8b1@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9fd84961dca59c3f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:16:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4307_9852978.1224587806439 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, so the 1/4th inch connectors on the audiofire2 aren't separate stereo? I guess it'd be best to look (since the kaoss already takes these) for something with red+white stereo audio cables, with two pair outputs and at least one input pair then? I think I see what you mean - the phones on the interface would allow me to hear the sound from the kaoss without any lag, but theres no way to reduce the lag with the signal coming from the kaos>interface>computer most likely, right? I'll have to go to a music store and ask since I don't want to buy an interface only to find out I need to do all hardware looping to prevent the lag. I'll go do some research and will try to find a fitting interface to try out, and will learn to use live better, thanks yet again! :) -Quine On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Nick wrote: > > Wow, I can't thank you enough for all your help :) > > > > So, am I correct in thinking if I buy a firewire audio interface such as > one > > of the two you recommended, and it has say, two inputs and two outputs, i > > could have it routed so audio goes > > Well, it takes two inputs to record a stereo signal. > > > > comp>interface>kaoss>back to interface>into comp > > >speakers > > Yes, that would work. Can't tell if timing Kaoss vs Computer may be an > issue though. I personally used exactly that routing to run a physical > looer, the EDP, in parallel with Live on a Powerbook and did not have > an issue with latency, but stuff like this tend to depend on the music > style as well. DnB needs to sync well, you'll have to try it out to > see if it works. > > > thus allowing me to completely control what audio goes o the speakers and > > what goes to the kaoss pad then back in to my computer so it can be > recorded > > and looped and then switched to speakers when it's ready to be mixed in. > > > > if i can do all that with just a firewire audio interface and live, i'll > be > > a very happy and not broke college student :) > > > > as for lag, i'm not quite sure what you mean by this: > > > > "Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input > > streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So > > there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero > > latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency > > is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a > > live input to any audio interface output." > > > > does that mean with something like the audiofire2, i could connect the > > eighth inch connector to the phones port and select that as input for a > > track in ableton, allowing me to record straight from the kaoss pad with > no > > lag? id definitely like to minimize or eliminate lag, as im quite bad at > > compensating for it. > > No. It means that you will be able to route an input directly to the > phones output INSIDE the audio interface - without even sending that > signal into the computer (this working around the AD conversion > latency). Not sure you need this info, but now you at least know about > it which may come in handy in the future. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > ------=_Part_4307_9852978.1224587806439 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ok, so the 1/4th inch connectors on the audiofire2 aren't separate stereo?

I guess it'd be best to look (since the kaoss already takes these) for something with red+white stereo audio cables, with two pair outputs and at least one input pair then?

I think I see what you mean - the phones on the interface would allow me to hear the sound from the kaoss without any lag, but theres no way to reduce the lag with the signal coming from the kaos>interface>computer most likely, right? I'll have to go to a music store and ask since I don't want to buy an interface only to find out I need to do all hardware looping to prevent the lag.

I'll go do some research and will try to find a fitting interface to try out, and will learn to use live better, thanks yet again! :)

-Quine

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, I can't thank you enough for all your help :)
>
> So, am I correct in thinking if I buy a firewire audio interface such as one
> of the two you recommended, and it has say, two inputs and two outputs, i
> could have it routed so audio goes

Well, it takes two inputs to record a stereo signal.


> comp>interface>kaoss>back to interface>into comp
>                          >speakers

Yes, that would work. Can't tell if timing Kaoss vs Computer may be an
issue though. I personally used exactly that routing to run a physical
looer, the EDP, in parallel with Live on a Powerbook and did not have
an issue with latency, but stuff like this tend to depend on the music
style as well. DnB needs to sync well, you'll have to try it out to
see if it works.

> thus allowing me to completely control what audio goes o the speakers and
> what goes to the kaoss pad then back in to my computer so it can be recorded
> and looped and then switched to speakers when it's ready to be mixed in.
>
> if i can do all that with just a firewire audio interface and live, i'll be
> a very happy and not broke college student :)
>
> as for lag, i'm not quite sure what you mean by this:
>
> "Most audio interfaces offer a direct monitoring output of input
> streams (mic/line inputs), normally through the phones output. So
> there you have a workaround to snag a live input with almost zero
> latency if going for parallel processing in the Kaoss Pad. If latency
> is not an issue you might as well use Live's software mixer to route a
> live input to any audio interface output."
>
> does that mean with something like the audiofire2, i could connect the
> eighth inch connector to the phones port and select that as input for a
> track in ableton, allowing me to record straight from the kaoss pad with no
> lag? id definitely like to minimize or eliminate lag, as im quite bad at
> compensating for it.

No. It means that you will be able to route an input directly to the
phones output INSIDE the audio interface - without even sending that
signal into the computer (this working around the AD conversion
latency). Not sure you need this info, but now you at least know about
it which may come in handy in the future.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------=_Part_4307_9852978.1224587806439-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 11:33:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE3083BE7F; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:33:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1PjAIlXl8NTHRkIsqyvhCS4ORdqA2UdZFZJ9c91ezY0=; b=ZdFb6ZN6BqJ0+d/CspUUrECZlqpsPrlO3rlzyzx1u3+Fj38U7srUr+8IEAhHjJCtHF w8Vkg6oDAV3z0aMOtxSIJjkUR9o0lhhFiBpfZCgqMAVDVvEFUjc1L/OYqM4vv/Gioxp2 e64cXD+9/HTfPY+fIQOVCxIvoV4Nzy02H0F/Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IAU15sh1QzWXFnfdwsYuOzEShTW6Jle235tTS93tkeWZvzH26oQykHHJjA+BFKQkz5 xuQCkiNtatiaWSobaFYFR3Jsh+H3x9/SQLre0RQbyx6TneWVYxLmfPwFlT207KYB90Ps W4hdWoGQ/A8OZRF9JGy7kUasRROS7Ozg9ch3w= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810210433o6b58af67q8fbb870643e2650f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:02 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hardware+software newbie questions: help with music setup In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0810210138u7d96b798m57219aa074c17a17@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810210251x7bd81cfg4a0865b6aba3dd7a@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810210338x6c2c71c5hf72bf901f345c8b1@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:33:03 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Nick wrote: > Ok, so the 1/4th inch connectors on the audiofire2 aren't separate stereo? Big ones are mono and the small one is stereo (phones output). > I guess it'd be best to look (since the kaoss already takes these) for > something with red+white stereo audio cables, with two pair outputs and at > least one input pair then? > > I think I see what you mean - the phones on the interface would allow me to > hear the sound from the kaoss without any lag, Yay!!! ;-) > but theres no way to reduce > the lag with the signal coming from the kaos>interface>computer most likely, > right? Correct. But given the sound is recorded the software can compensate on playback of the recording (not working if the application - Live - is slave syncing to master clock source though). > I'll have to go to a music store and ask since I don't want to buy an > interface only to find out I need to do all hardware looping to prevent the > lag. Of course you should! Although hardware modules also needs different time to process an input before sending it out at an output. Latency in hardware may be more difficult to deal with musically, since they rarely offer compensation. You should always try out gear before buying - buy exactly the same gear as someone you trust recommends. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 12:40:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 572693BE7F; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:40:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: , "Loopers Delight" Subject: recordings of children Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:40:17 +0200 Message-ID: <009a01c9337a$2c62a9e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AckzeivM9cNueW5TQvG5Jp6i0g7SoA== X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.2.0.5; VDF: 7.0.7.66) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 12:40:22 +0000 (UTC) for a potential new project (possibly a radio production) I need recordings of small children - ideally pre-language babbling or singing, or other utterances of some complexity. Some of these recordings will probably be electronically altered and become part of a composition - think opera. If any of you has interesting recordings (possibly of your own kids) in decent quality, and would consent to me using them in such a context, I'd be very grateful. (Please contact me offlist.) Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 13:04:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DF873BE7C; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:04:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:04:25 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810210118g6b81871el330a1667a1d5829c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20081021130425.18640@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <418880CB-ACCF-4E3D-AEB7-442C2289AB65@atarde.com.br> <66f9cc1e0810210118g6b81871el330a1667a1d5829c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+nK3sIFzWn20eda/GqhY6Pj/8ujlMynPwzVDFh+r Q48kqnIMbobqi30o8g+Cfx38LUp0U4l3rkoA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: N76fHA8nbXB+NsxpyTU2rjwiLyUmZUiY X-FuHaFi: 0.6899999999999999 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:04:27 +0000 (UTC) thanks for the detailed comments, Per. I didn't even go into it but now that you've mentioned it: 3-pin FW has always been one of the major reasons for spending extra $$ on a MacBook rather than PC laptop. OK, no use whining - I'll stop now. ;-) If somebody wants to do something, they can sign the following petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/MB1394/petition.html best regards Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 14:28:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF15D3BE80; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <1d398954ff6385fc6c477b1ee4b5c1c2@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:28:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Matthias, Congratulations to you Mattias and happy birthday Icau=E9. Best regards, Ted Killian On Oct 18, 2008, at 1:32 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > youhou! > > today is Icau=EA first party! ( not OT as you will see below ) > My son's age is still slightly negative, but his movements are clearly=20= > visible from a far now, and at the daily percussion lesson he listens=20= > and answers like slightly positive aged citizens :-) > > is it my first kid? > until I was exactly 49 (7x7!), which was exactly when this astrologic=20= > year started, > I suspected that in this life > my family was LOOP and > my kids were machines (PolySubbass, LOOP delay, Echoplex...) and > my younger looper friends would ease me if I'd grow old and lonely... > > but the pill failed and I am moved by the coincidence that: > while my old family is partying in Sana X (and in Norwich last week!) > we show off Icau=EA's Rick-green cozy room with the "uncle" made = Dininho=20 > and the Formula K cockpit and whatnot we got... to all the crazy and=20= > beautiful improvisers and contact dancers and yoga teachers and... of=20= > Salvador/Bahia !! > today I also ordered the british birth pool Bassine to slow down=20 > Icaue's next heavy task sequence of moving out, unfold, feeling space,=20= > feeling air, breathing... > > (in case you wonder how to say his name: its almost sung, since the=20 > first and the last letter are equally accentuated. Just imagine the=20 > flow from > I the input on top, through > C the neck with the blade, > A the center, > U the unknown and > E the event, exit, export!) > > so will I abandon my old family? will I loop the kid thing now? > I had a heavy problem that isolated me the last 5 years but it was=20 > solved shortly after the y2k7 - with great help from Rick's huge good=20= > will, understanding and insistence! > so the past months I have been programming day and night to bring=20 > another kid to screen light and its also near, but it does not depend=20= > just on me, patience... and don't expect too much, we had to move the=20= > LOOP IV technology to the computer first and only the next version=20 > will contain the new ideas... > we even want to build this new software into a new little box (sure:=20= > no noise, stereo, flashcard... and still smaller and cheaper than the=20= > EDP!) and even a HW prototype and money is available, but the project=20= > might fail due to lack of administration capacity... > > at least, in free moments, I will work on video, sound and text=20 > documentation about what we are doing, and try to follow the heavy=20 > rhythm of this list again! > > sun is rising for the son > a huge hug to all of you and a big tatataaa to the loop activists and=20= > Icaue! > Matthias From claimsanniversarypromo@google.com Tue Oct 21 14:42:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:42:00 UTC Received: from elk2.alaweb.com (elk2.alaweb.com [216.108.208.45]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BEE3BE46 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:42:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from google.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elk2.alaweb.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 8.0.4) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:31:54 -0500 Message-ID: <380-220081022114315457@google.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: claimsanniversary1@gmail.com From: claimsanniversarypromo@google.com Subject: Attn: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:31:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: undisclosed-recipients:; Your E-mail has Won in our Online Anniversary Promotion=2E FOR MORE INFO From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 18:55:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27EE03BE73; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 71186588 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Frequencie$ Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:55:38 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA10179D493@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810210301o26bb727aw88564dcbc4cadb36@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Frequencie$ Thread-Index: Ackzrptr1lzgjqWZSSS3lqslPuhDDw== References: <66f9cc1e0810210301o26bb727aw88564dcbc4cadb36@mail.gmail.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2008 18:55:39.0012 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BED5C40:01C933AE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:55:41 +0000 (UTC) I'm coming to this rather late, having not had the disposable time to keep up with the digests the last couple of days. but I have posted on this before, & some of you may remember..... this isn't a digital vs analog(ue) debate- I can go on about that for days, & repeat my theories of audio fingerprinting & spectral responses & so on. no, this is about the highest frequency that humans can perceive.=20 I knew I had it somewhere, & I found it again just three days ago- an article from a 1993 issue of audio-media, in which no less an "authority" than rupert neve himself describes, anecdotally, some blind tests he performed.=20 he was prompted to do this after discovering that no less a person than geoff emerick had detected a fault on several neve-built mixing-desk channels, of which the only symptom was a 3dB lift at 30kHz.=20 this was either at AIR or at abbey road, I forget. what neve did was to play sine & square to his listeners, at 9kHz & up, & have them tell him if they could hear a difference between the two sounds. I can scan the article if anyone wants to get into it more than that. but so- can they hear the first partial at 27kHz?=20 he reckons some of them did. for one, I remain sceptical. (skeptikal?).=20 there's no way (at least not from this article) to eliminate shortcomings in the test environment or equipment. I can do the same test at home & still not be sure that what I'm hearing is 27kHz & not some phantom sideband. should I use headphones or a speaker? how good is my amp? is something resonating in the room or the headset & producing an undertone?=20 but here's the thing:=20 I know (as an engineer working amongst bean-counters) that the guys at phillips & sony went with 44.1/16 for as many reasons of economy as of science &/or musical fidelity, & based on the unwritten understanding that most people can't really hear much above 15kHz on a good day, that most meaningful audio contains little of interest out beyond 18kHz, & that what is out there isn't worth worrying what shape waveform it is.=20 we're talking percentages here, the same ones that have since brought us atrac & MP3. =20 the big noise at sony back then (norio ohga) was adamant that the sony/phillips engineers fit 63 minutes of 16-bit audio onto the damn discs so he could listen to an unexpurgated (& recorded by his mate karajan) rendering of famous beethoven's famous ninth symphony.=20 (name the movie? but I digress....),=20 & the limits of the technology /then available/ dictated the rest.=20 [source- "sony- the private life", john nathan, harper-collins-business, 1999] in fact the technical challenge of recording digital audio goes back a good deal further than that, to the earliest attempts using PCM & professional VCR machines. it ought to be intuitively obvious to anyone of a mildly technical bent that, faced with such a challenge, the engineers are going to do the very least they can get away with in order to make the damn thing work reliably. in 1975, this was 44.1k sampling at 16-bit. now that the buggers want to sell us the technology all over again, & the task is made easier with custom VLSI & cheap storage, we are told that only 192/24 is really good enough.=20 those of us lucky enough to have our own studer analogue tape decks at home knew this all along, of course. :-) duncan. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 20:33:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBB8C3BE7B; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:33:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_d46e8194-28c6-4aa7-b45a-62330ea0393d_" X-Originating-IP: [170.104.174.208] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: My Experience of Y2K8 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:33:48 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Oct 2008 20:33:48.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[52820250:01C933BC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:33:49 +0000 (UTC) --_d46e8194-28c6-4aa7-b45a-62330ea0393d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for playing this years fest. I thought your set was most excellent! = I especially love old sound byte LPs!! Peace=2C J.D.Devros deafrose58=20 Date: Sun=2C 19 Oct 2008 18:41:37 -0700From: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.comSub= ject: My Experience of Y2K8To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Hello Everybody=2CJust made it home from the long drive. So=2C glad I went = for it and got the chance to participate in this festival. I was blown away= by the diversity and quality of work I saw. From sound-art=2C to experimen= tal=2C to rock=2C to acoustic and all unified by the magical loop!The vibe = of the musicians and audience at the studio was glowingly positive=2C fille= d openness and interest. This was truly a new music conference and I learne= d much from this experience! Thank you all for sharing your work and energy= in this festival=2C I feel very happy that I had the chance to participate= !!!!!!!! HTTP://MARGARETNOBLE.NET/ __________________________________________________Do You Yahoo!?Tired of sp= am? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com=20 _________________________________________________________________ Stay organized with simple drag and drop from Windows Live Hotmail. http://windowslive.com/Explore/hotmail?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_102008= --_d46e8194-28c6-4aa7-b45a-62330ea0393d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for playing this years fest. I thought your set was =3Bmost exce= llent! I especially love old sound byte LPs!!
Peace=2C
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Date: Sun=2C 19 Oct 2008 18:41:37 -0700
From: margaretnoble2000@yahoo.co= m
Subject: My Experience of Y2K8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.= com


Hello Everybody=2C

Just made it home from the long drive. So=2C g= lad I went for it and got the chance to participate in this festival. I was= blown away by the diversity and quality of work I saw. From sound-art=2C t= o experimental=2C to rock=2C to acoustic and all unified by the magical loo= p!

The vibe of the musicians and audience at the studio was glowingl= y positive=2C filled openness and interest. This was truly a new music conf= erence and I learned much from this experience! Thank you all for sharing y= our work and energy in this festival=2C I feel very happy that I had the ch= ance to participate!!!!!!!!

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BEST REGARD, MR BAJOGA IZONN From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 22:29:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B31333BE78; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=/pZa4kO26I9qgeBWJobM/ZO1HPbG01JLX9XBpy3PXV8=; b=EmuAqcS+IiFrY+RhJBRZPHUQR3JdGF5/PWSrtyzYnf262YCiOcjEBlwP8nlGxJLeKs 0pVIQsdE/z5tz5uRh0zWveKllLVD4RnPGChvHbyP1g4yhsPOnTPqUxRVLH8NiMiVAA44 pc4OcjXGNcaiJFXXEIcGOvsGT3f9FqpAVWJN0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Yg5U0pqhsdCWpvslFbhhcD9FOY8tHscfxyxQWLFmeCGNfSdRURJ42KcYkdZVFm+/oP eTn4bjo1Ytqg9bHr7fSSBGXlx6Vnu2oEuLg7gCEqJSp4+gruwJOkkCI3mOpAuXV7xZT+ OvB4VC9n25r/oiydwGCSr0NXSFyqLAtBq1lM8= Message-ID: <101191640810211529t32584fbekf5f52b48e1415e17@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:29:13 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10060_33486657.1224628153390" References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ebce9832e1720ed7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:29:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10060_33486657.1224628153390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline C'mon, keep saying things about the fest so I can fantasize about next year... so sad i couldn't be there. ------=_Part_10060_33486657.1224628153390 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline C'mon, keep saying things about the fest so I can fantasize about next year... so sad i couldn't be there.

------=_Part_10060_33486657.1224628153390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 22:38:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A22CB3BE7E; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <44DA5729409E44B8B36FC41842536551@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <101191640810211529t32584fbekf5f52b48e1415e17@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:38:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93392.FFC879A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:38:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93392.FFC879A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I feel very lucky that this festival takes place so close to home for = me. I wonder if there would be any way to stream video and audio from = the festival to the Internet. Anybody have any experience in this and = what would be required to make it work? C'mon, keep saying things about the fest so I can fantasize about next = year... so sad i couldn't be there. ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93392.FFC879A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I feel very lucky that this festival = takes place so=20 close to home for me.  I wonder if there would be any way to stream = video=20 and audio from the festival to the Internet.  Anybody have any = experience=20 in this and what would be required to make it work?

C'mon, keep saying = things about=20 the fest so I can fantasize about next year... so sad i couldn't be=20 there.

------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93392.FFC879A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 21 23:47:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 906A53BE78; Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=iuYGZfoJ0H0BUEWKL+Uopu49oSgqFL1+mEWq3HTtXtDINVQ36831Givxe3eis50f; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:X-Priority:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: From: Cara Quinn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <44DA5729409E44B8B36FC41842536551@bobdell> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--634947693 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:47:51 -0700 References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <101191640810211529t32584fbekf5f52b48e1415e17@mail.gmail.com> <44DA5729409E44B8B36FC41842536551@bobdell> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 6b863c64b7cad57866423f13a3a05d4c239a348a220c260993070427809a9f79217e7d9493114dd9a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.94.193.196 Resent-Message-ID: <8Vw3NC.A.HRB.pom_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:47:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--634947693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The festival audio was streamed in 05 and possibly other years as =20 well, and I believe that Krispen was involved in such, but not sure. Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more info=85 Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > I feel very lucky that this festival takes place so close to home =20 > for me. I wonder if there would be any way to stream video and =20 > audio from the festival to the Internet. Anybody have any =20 > experience in this and what would be required to make it work? > > C'mon, keep saying things about the fest so I can fantasize about =20 > next year... so sad i couldn't be there. > --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --Apple-Mail-2--634947693 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   The festival audio = was streamed in 05 and possibly other years as well, and I believe that = Krispen was involved in such, but not sure. =  

  Perhaps others here can chime in = with a bit more info=85 =  

Smiles,

Cara =  :)


On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 = PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

I feel very lucky that this festival takes = place so close to home for me.  I wonder if there would be any way = to stream video and audio from the festival to the Internet.  = Anybody have any experience in this and what would be required to make = it work?

C'mon, keep = saying things about the fest so I can fantasize about next year... so = sad i couldn't be = there.


---
View my = Online Portfolio at:
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= --Apple-Mail-2--634947693-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 01:24:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06AD73BE7C; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=3GR4WjHPZkt56c24T0trGKDbKMgF1XPfjc273++EVOY=; b=SZgAmwpaPJv0y+2Qsu0d8M+APi1sMgAX2pqWBXRZzNg084LnacgNrTYXTl/mmlB625 /2DcN/cQpKN9y3DdAQbuRFuBKj0DYVmXIIl4rl0bQlR4mmldbJEuy7sF2d9jVvh4TXyF 7RfNx4oTqhPkDh22WpXWAwe3M9dl7wXw8d9Zw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=lDdOZcwOjbQhHInKu5AM8Ir7sTZ1R7vKpdWzHdoHwGHhST+oEMbm/s5v6ZHMWbg1Zf Mo9tc3GI38IhrODAht+ygUwM9BFkouIUYAP7rCpv+W5tbw7MoMLpjP2bESvABKMNeqyD nFyqaYgG5/8+21yYgy63N66xjXHLkH/nK7fNI= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:24:01 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 In-Reply-To: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I had a grand time. Thanks to Rick, Chris Cohn, Gretchen, Rabbit, Krispen, Mark and the other fine folks who were instrumental in putting it together. I wish I could've stayed longer this year. Matt On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:41 PM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello Everybody, > > Just made it home from the long drive. So, glad I went for it and got the > chance to participate in this festival. I was blown away by the diversity > and quality of work I saw. From sound-art, to experimental, to rock, to > acoustic and all unified by the magical loop! > > The vibe of the musicians and audience at the studio was glowingly positive, > filled openness and interest. This was truly a new music conference and I > learned much from this experience! Thank you all for sharing your work and > energy in this festival, I feel very happy that I had the chance to > participate!!!!!!!! > > > HTTP://MARGARETNOBLE.NET/ > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 01:39:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 236983BE82; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.30.28] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <101191640810211529t32584fbekf5f52b48e1415e17@mail.gmail.com> <44DA5729409E44B8B36FC41842536551@bobdell> Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:39:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0164_01C933B4.C1458B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2008 01:39:41.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D8F5910:01C933E7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:39:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0164_01C933B4.C1458B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's right. Streaming audio is fairly easy. Video is another matter. = After I ran out of steam and couldn't stream any longer, I was hoping = some motivated, young techy would be willing to try streaming = audio/video. No takers yet. The good thing is that Rick recorded many = sets this time. I'll post my two recordings in a few days. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 The festival audio was streamed in 05 and possibly other years as = well, and I believe that Krispen was involved in such, but not sure. =20 Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more info=85 =20 Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: I feel very lucky that this festival takes place so close to home = for me. I wonder if there would be any way to stream video and audio = from the festival to the Internet. Anybody have any experience in this = and what would be required to make it work? C'mon, keep saying things about the fest so I can fantasize about = next year... so sad i couldn't be there. --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0164_01C933B4.C1458B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's right. Streaming audio is fairly = easy. Video=20 is another matter. After I ran out of steam and couldn't stream any = longer, I=20 was hoping some motivated, young techy would be willing to try = streaming=20 audio/video. No takers yet.  The good thing is that Rick recorded = many sets=20 this time.  I'll post my two recordings in a few days.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 

  The festival audio was streamed in 05 and = possibly=20 other years as well, and I believe that Krispen was involved in such, = but not=20 sure.  

  Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more = info=85=20  

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:
I feel very lucky that this = festival takes=20 place so close to home for me.  I wonder if there would be any = way to=20 stream video and audio from the festival to the Internet.  = Anybody have=20 any experience in this and what would be required to make it=20 work?

C'mon, keep = saying things=20 about the fest so I can fantasize about next year... so sad i = couldn't be=20 there.


---
View my Online Portfolio at:
http://www.onemodelplace.= com/CaraQuinn 

------=_NextPart_000_0164_01C933B4.C1458B60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 03:04:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A995C3BE88; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=hMYUvRGtHnKvvW1SaXUH9cC8OirdcgrtFtVHEg7f19w=; b=vkjDYwsIiMgyuVvGMgp9QEVifMixpRDx/akrNLoeTMCZ9yz2ZKThvPNTln4ENtKvzx ec5G9w13vtqBmg1YNKQMdZFQgsR6IQ//0S8VLyD2G0t1yknz3HiJtQjBVjSoAh682X3G VZizdd9F0wy700QF3FgGme36FX6GxG5GHH/eg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Kf45Iflydxq13NxoxeiwhQb/20IZKRk+GOSOGZGEi5qHD8rszcUVkgPedlmpcMPc5w MDXTFzW7CDMx8sJdJJWNZ4gDUAIIWPbliDTVUPBg5ADitVutx7oOhwNb8PsQAKH/CjrD Pk7dVvX4OPUxRfU195cI/Q7uA5mTencrRmzgQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:04:52 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19003_4584923.1224644692708" References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <101191640810211529t32584fbekf5f52b48e1415e17@mail.gmail.com> <44DA5729409E44B8B36FC41842536551@bobdell> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 063a9c199804fd84 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:04:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19003_4584923.1224644692708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline If you can get some video to me I can try to compress it and put it on my website so people can stream it, if that would be helpful. I have a lot of bandwidth so it should be able to withstand the strain. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Krispen Hartung w= rote: > That's right. Streaming audio is fairly easy. Video is another matter. > After I ran out of steam and couldn't stream any longer, I was hoping som= e > motivated, young techy would be willing to try streaming audio/video. No > takers yet. The good thing is that Rick recorded many sets this time. I= 'll > post my two recordings in a few days. > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > The festival audio was streamed in 05 and possibly other years as well, > and I believe that Krispen was involved in such, but not sure. > Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more info=85 > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > > > On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: > > I feel very lucky that this festival takes place so close to home for > me. I wonder if there would be any way to stream video and audio from th= e > festival to the Internet. Anybody have any experience in this and what > would be required to make it work? > > > C'mon, keep saying things about the fest so I can fantasize about next > year... so sad i couldn't be there. > > > --- > View my Online Portfolio at: > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > ------=_Part_19003_4584923.1224644692708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline If you can get some video to me I can try to compress it and put it on my w= ebsite so people can stream it, if that would be helpful. I have a lot of b= andwidth so it should be able to withstand the strain.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
That's right. Streaming audio is f= airly easy. Video=20 is another matter. After I ran out of steam and couldn't stream any lon= ger, I=20 was hoping some motivated, young techy would be willing to try streami= ng=20 audio/video. No takers yet.  The good thing is that Rick recorded many= sets=20 this time.  I'll post my two recordings in a few days.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 

  The festival audio was streamed in 05 and poss= ibly=20 other years as well, and I believe that Krispen was involved in such, but= not=20 sure.  

  Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more info=85= =20  

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

I feel very lucky that this festiv= al takes=20 place so close to home for me.  I wonder if there would be any way= to=20 stream video and audio from the festival to the Internet.  Anybody= have=20 any experience in this and what would be required to make it=20 work?

C'mon, keep= saying things=20 about the fest so I can fantasize about next year... so sad i couldn&= #39;t be=20 there.


---
View my Online Portfolio at:


------=_Part_19003_4584923.1224644692708-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 04:58:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 418EE3BE8A; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:58:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.30.28] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <101191640810211529t32584fbekf5f52b48e1415e17@mail.gmail.com> <44DA5729409E44B8B36FC41842536551@bobdell> Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:58:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_017C_01C933D0.84036940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2008 04:58:23.0915 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFE39FB0:01C93402] Resent-Message-ID: <_jYfg.A.WJB.xLr_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:58:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017C_01C933D0.84036940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I meant streaming video live from the event. A few years ago, I streamed = audio live. It would be cool to provide a multi-media experience to = those who can't attend. Even cooler, it might be fun to host a few = remote featured performers. That would be even easier, using any of the = instant messengers that allow video and audio, and then project the = audio on the wall of the venue, and the audio through the PA. =20 Rick, what do you think? Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 If you can get some video to me I can try to compress it and put it on = my website so people can stream it, if that would be helpful. I have a = lot of bandwidth so it should be able to withstand the strain. On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Krispen Hartung = wrote: That's right. Streaming audio is fairly easy. Video is another = matter. After I ran out of steam and couldn't stream any longer, I was = hoping some motivated, young techy would be willing to try streaming = audio/video. No takers yet. The good thing is that Rick recorded many = sets this time. I'll post my two recordings in a few days. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 The festival audio was streamed in 05 and possibly other years = as well, and I believe that Krispen was involved in such, but not sure. = =20 Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more info=85 =20 Smiles, Cara :) On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote: I feel very lucky that this festival takes place so close to = home for me. I wonder if there would be any way to stream video and = audio from the festival to the Internet. Anybody have any experience in = this and what would be required to make it work? C'mon, keep saying things about the fest so I can fantasize = about next year... so sad i couldn't be there. --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn=20 ------=_NextPart_000_017C_01C933D0.84036940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I meant streaming video live from the = event. A few=20 years ago, I streamed audio live. It would be cool to provide a = multi-media=20 experience to those who can't attend.  Even cooler, it might be fun = to host=20 a few remote featured performers. That would be even easier, using any = of the=20 instant messengers that allow video and audio, and then project the = audio on the=20 wall of the venue, and the audio through the PA. 
 
Rick, what do you think?
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 

If you can get some video to me I can try to compress = it and=20 put it on my website so people can stream it, if that would be = helpful. I have=20 a lot of bandwidth so it should be able to withstand the = strain.

On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Krispen = Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>=20 wrote:
That's right. Streaming audio is = fairly easy.=20 Video is another matter. After I ran out of steam and couldn't = stream any=20 longer, I was hoping some motivated, young techy would be = willing to=20 try streaming audio/video. No takers yet.  The good thing is = that Rick=20 recorded many sets this time.  I'll post my two recordings in a = few=20 days.
 
Kris
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
 

  The festival audio was streamed in 05 = and=20 possibly other years as well, and I believe that Krispen was = involved in=20 such, but not sure.  =20

  Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more = info=85=20  

Smiles,

Cara  :)


On Oct 21, 2008, at 3:38 PM, Bob Amstadt wrote:

I feel very lucky that this = festival takes=20 place so close to home for me.  I wonder if there would be = any way=20 to stream video and audio from the festival to the = Internet. =20 Anybody have any experience in this and what would be required = to make=20 it work?

C'mon, keep = saying=20 things about the fest so I can fantasize about next year... so = sad i=20 couldn't be=20 there.


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------=_NextPart_000_017C_01C933D0.84036940-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 05:59:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB4D13BE82; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:59:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=KCmprnr0ik5TBs2NlgrB7dRoFP7nBNBq6QMdMTvpw/w=; b=qq27Hgugxt8thkwzfvk69+md8FZur9Y9wCZAn6b4/XhuEpFYB7WXozf7LXBqjpHIrV Ty+dUY0Ox9B5AnDXl5nMcqStsSy/paNqUL46vpY6zUu/elhPiRooCp9GZVCSrdN7r1SQ mMc2Hv4WgU+jlTu83N68e+YtBeRpJO2lsFqlg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=KqjPcagRg8xHkvXDYJ7rG8Frsltl+3uEUG+voXTSevZlk3ZKnxCMP5RW4iF4ij++iA HS2x8RZP3t1WPEqYEDungcVXJcg2Fq2T6liLqC/Cj7zXmPUyNOlgrKEH0SprlWl71DbV MHIAI4oKRVBYV+xM9HPLPVIvDRZBpQhswfPG4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810212259p19a419d4ia633eee2bddf535@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:59:20 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <166300.38710.qm@web81003.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <101191640810211529t32584fbekf5f52b48e1415e17@mail.gmail.com> <44DA5729409E44B8B36FC41842536551@bobdell> Resent-Message-ID: <89f3WB.A._bC.5Es_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:59:21 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 1:47 AM, Cara Quinn wrot= e: > The festival audio was streamed in 05 and possibly other years as well, > and I believe that Krispen was involved in such, but not sure. > Perhaps others here can chime in with a bit more info=85 > Smiles, > Cara :) I bet anyone can google how to set it up and make a real-time stream happen! Seems no one was simply interested in doing that this year. But even better IMHO would be to post videos and recordings from the festival. I mean, one big point in using internet is to not having to attend events at the one and only time they originally happen but being able to time shift and enjoy the concerts at a time more convenient for you - maybe many times for days and years to come. And to reach a bigger audience than those brave few who stay up by the computer at the particular "streaming time". The trick is to find server space to keep the stuff online. --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 07:29:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F02E3BE89; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:29:01 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <1d398954ff6385fc6c477b1ee4b5c1c2@charter.net> Message-ID: <20081022072901.302260@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1d398954ff6385fc6c477b1ee4b5c1c2@charter.net> Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19PcFcfAG1PhFgb7Dgvi+tNztdBx+46J54C4KqM5R ZfZN+NNJcB0EHdESeqYXDwNB+/cTUa9sWMjA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: BeHLfGcxTiE+O9p6nGVwac19ZUVSRJfl X-FuHaFi: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:29:03 +0000 (UTC) sounds exciting :) -- "Feel free" - 10 GB Mailbox, 100 FreeSMS/Monat ... Jetzt GMX TopMail testen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/topmail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 10:29:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5CF93BE78; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeeRzscT8w== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: My Experience of Y2K8 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:29:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ack0AtG6Bx4hhP/7Tuq4BZRLpNKdawALUAgg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: <1sqTvC.A.8L.nCw_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:29:59 +0000 (UTC) > I meant streaming video live from the event. A few years ago, I streamed audio live. It would be cool to provide a multi-media experience to those who > can't attend. Even cooler, it might be fun to host a few remote featured performers. That would be even easier, using any of the instant messengers that I believe you streamed all of the performances (technical hurdles allowing) from the 05 and 06 festivals - I myself listened to most of 05 here from Germany. And of course, in 06 we had remote performances in the kybermusik event. I also believe (but Krispen, could you please comment on that) that at this year's BEMF3, a local radio station had streamed all of the main festival performances to the internet as part of their own programme. Perhaps something like this (i.e. a third party doing it) might be a possibility for future Y2Kloopfests? As for the ressources to use: there are dedicated services like http://www.ligx.de/ (German service) which specialize specifically on streaming live (music) concerts as audio/video (flash). I had been in contact with that specific service some time ago in their pre-productive phase, and we also discussed the possibility to work with remote featured performers linked together (a la kybermusik with video). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 10:32:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E3313BE7F; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnXOQVcSBMeeRzscT8w== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: My Experience of Y2K8 - post scriptum Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:32:02 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ack0AtG6Bx4hhP/7Tuq4BZRLpNKdawALlV4A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:32:01 +0000 (UTC) I missed to say that in my last message: I personally would really look forward to future events (y2kloopfest or any other one in that realm) being streamed (again). I really enjoyed listening to the event back in 05, and my "fan base" also made use of the live stream in 06 (hey, they even got up at like 6 in the morning). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 10:49:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB6C23BE86; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48FF0601.5070402@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:52:49 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer References: <000b01c9320c$593a2930$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000b01c9320c$593a2930$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Duke wrote: > Does someone here have ant experience with the bbe sonic maximizer? > > http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp > > I have not tried one but it was recomended as a "final finish" product. > I like my sound now but always look for a little more......zing or > something, I dunno.... Try a search for it on http://wwww.adadepot.com/forum/ My fellow axemen there have tons of experiences with the different models and also some mods. IFAIR, most have abandoned them. YMMV.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 11:13:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 041043BE88; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224673994; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=gwx/gRgliEP23msF+6TovhJ09KQ=; b=B7c1J1wdpgfK7O+sI1K7F+kP7lB27i7Tp1z/fuwoAp3uoC/uLtB3545IqHfW6+Gc VBfjih8Au+Ba+4KP30Lu5GEz51NcKE/tIaJWBFu1uHy0VMBwF7WNKeVWwBmlEwym; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=_ig2qCvCAAAA:8 a=SEqvwvelAAAA:8 a=SE2am4heAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Bb5MguMRanVH6f08MeIA:9 a=me1s896yNtOAyhAkzYYA:7 a=GgIDot8CBKb2-jq-wsv61CLnZCwA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <003801c93437$2cec5060$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000b01c9320c$593a2930$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <48FF0601.5070402@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:13:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for that link, I found some great reviews, I have abandoned the Sonic Maximizer and have ordered the Opto Stomp.. http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/optostomp.shtml .. I'll report back soon on this "fizzy artifact".... Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "van Sinn" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:52 AM Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer > Jeff Duke wrote: >> Does someone here have ant experience with the bbe sonic maximizer? >> >> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp >> >> I have not tried one but it was recomended as a "final finish" product. >> I like my sound now but always look for a little more......zing or >> something, I dunno.... > > Try a search for it on http://wwww.adadepot.com/forum/ > My fellow axemen there have tons of experiences with the different > models and also some mods. IFAIR, most have abandoned them. YMMV.. > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 14:07:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBCAE3BE88; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.30.28] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: Subject: Re: My Experience of Y2K8 Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:07:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2008 14:07:43.0008 (UTC) FILETIME=[8D0A1A00:01C9344F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:07:44 +0000 (UTC) You are correct. I forgot I did it two years in a row. Yes, one viable option for Rick to consider for Y2K9 would be to find a third party virtual radio station, like I did for BEMF3 all three years in a row. That takes away all the pressure of having to coordinate it. You just give them the wireless assess point, a table, and a feed from the board, and away they go. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > > I believe you streamed all of the performances (technical hurdles > allowing) > from the 05 and 06 festivals - I myself listened to most of 05 here from > Germany. And of course, in 06 we had remote performances in the kybermusik > event. > > I also believe (but Krispen, could you please comment on that) that at > this > year's BEMF3, a local radio station had streamed all of the main festival > performances to the internet as part of their own programme. Perhaps > something like this (i.e. a third party doing it) might be a possibility > for > future Y2Kloopfests? > > As for the ressources to use: there are dedicated services like > http://www.ligx.de/ (German service) which specialize specifically on > streaming live (music) concerts as audio/video (flash). I had been in > contact with that specific service some time ago in their pre-productive > phase, and we also discussed the possibility to work with remote featured > performers linked together (a la kybermusik with video). > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 14:27:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 132213BE92; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [97.121.30.28] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: "Krispen Hartung" , "Robert Sterling" , "BOB BEEDE" , "PETER KNUDSEN" , "AMAR CHAUDHARY. PHD" , "MARK HAMBURG" , "TED KILLIAN" , "GARY REGINA" , "CPR aka Chris Roberts" , "LINDSEY WALKER \(newbie looper\)" , "ERIC GLICK RIEMAN" , "CARL WEINGARTEN" , "LUIS ANGULO" , "DANIEL THOMAS" , "STAN CARD" , "DAN & THERESA SOLTZBERG" , "KOOROSH DARYAIE" , "LARRY the 'O'" , "GREG POWERS" , "JORDIE TOPF" , "BOB AMSTADT" , "JAMES BAILEY" , "MARGARET NOBLE" , "MATT DAVIGNON" , "MATT HERMAN" , "KALIMBA MAN" , "GENIE" , "RICK WALKER" , "BARRY CLEVELAND" , "MANDO-MAN" , "RYUSEI HATTORI" , "ROBERTO ZORZI" , "TRAVIS LUND" , "JD DEVROS" , "PETER COR" , "UNITY NGUYEN" , "CHRIS COHN" , "GLENN SMITH" , "JEFF SLOAN" , "JONATHAN KESSLER" , "JACK SCHULTZ" , "BILL PUTNAM" , "BILL WALKER" , "DARYL SHAWN \(china painting\)" , "GOH NAKUMURA" , "ISAAC \(electric shovel\) FRANKLE" , "JIM GOODIN -China Painting" , "KEVIN KISSINGER" Cc: , References: <48D9A90F.4090809@cruzio.com> Subject: Y2K8 Website Pictures and Soundclips Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:27:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C9341F.FCB30130" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2008 14:27:21.0516 (UTC) FILETIME=[4B7C26C0:01C93452] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:27:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C9341F.FCB30130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, As usual, I will be updating the Y2K8 website with photos and any sound = clips or videos that anyone wants to offer. If you signed the release form from Mark and you have your CD of photos, = please select your favorite and send to me. I will publish on the Images = & MP3 page of the site: http://www.y2kloopfest.com/index.html If you recorded your set, or if Rick recorded it, and you want me to = publish the link, please post it on your own server or player service, = and I will like to that as well. The same goes for any videos that = anyone took. Thanks. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C9341F.FCB30130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all,
 
As usual, I will be updating the Y2K8 = website with=20 photos and any sound clips or videos that anyone wants to = offer.
 
If you signed the release form from = Mark and you=20 have your CD of photos, please select your favorite and send to me. I = will=20 publish on the Images & MP3 page of the site: http://www.y2kloopfest.com= /index.html
 
If you recorded your set, or if Rick = recorded it,=20 and you want me to publish the link, please post it on your own server = or player=20 service, and I will like to that as well. The same goes for any videos = that=20 anyone took.
 
Thanks.
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_01E6_01C9341F.FCB30130-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 15:40:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 847E43BE90; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:40:25 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=mfEsLxAn7N66YKXKH3yBJZI0w44/O+klqd37OKy6NScYSOt9+QnhN4p6xjFqz2XVq3zWIvn95XPi46kkp7W0Rf4TmQgIVKhfkatVwt/PgiTTmv3ACtFzU915q1ZUyHtB; Message-ID: <20081022103343.1c2065p68skgco4w@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:33:43 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer References: <000b01c9320c$593a2930$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <48FF0601.5070402@post.cybercity.dk> <003801c93437$2cec5060$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <003801c93437$2cec5060$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <3xXS1D.A.Y0H.pl0_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:40:25 +0000 (UTC) I own a sonic maximizer and am happy with it. If you already have excellent source material (i.e., a great mix, =20 great speakers, etc) then you really don't have a need for the Sonic =20 Maximizer. However, if one has a compromised source such as an old cassette =20 recording or a "murky" mix, the Sonic Maximizer does a pretty good job =20 of getting some clarity and "punch" from the recording (it performes =20 some phase-alignment). Also, I have a pair of Technics speakers from the 70s (two-way, 8" =20 ported enclosure) and when I run material through the Maximizer it =20 really tightens up the sound (that is, the Technics speakers approach =20 the clarity of my SR824s). I have some old recordings I did on Casio keyboards that tend to be =20 kind of "mid-range dominate" and murky and the BBS unit does wonders =20 with this. Also, when I listen to streaming audio from the internet I run it =20 through the BBS and it really makes the low-quality audio sound pretty =20 amazing. The bottom line: The BBS is excellent to compensate for mediocre source material or speakers. However, if your recording setup is state-of-the-art then the BBS may =20 have little effect and limited use. -- Kevin Quoting Jeff Duke : > Thanks for that link, I found some great reviews, I have abandoned the > Sonic Maximizer and have ordered the Opto Stomp.. > http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/optostomp.shtml .. I'll report back soon > on this "fizzy artifact".... > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "van Sinn" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 6:52 AM > Subject: Re: bbe sonic maximizer > > >> Jeff Duke wrote: >>> Does someone here have ant experience with the bbe sonic maximizer? >>> >>> http://www.bbesound.com/products/stomp_boxes/SonicStomp/index.asp >>> >>> I have not tried one but it was recomended as a "final finish" product. >>> I like my sound now but always look for a little more......zing or >>> something, I dunno.... >> >> Try a search for it on http://wwww.adadepot.com/forum/ >> My fellow axemen there have tons of experiences with the different >> models and also some mods. IFAIR, most have abandoned them. 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--0-1502505925-1224693416=:57695-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 16:44:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9CDD43BE92; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:44:58 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM MacOS X Eudora Version 6.2J rev3.3 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <48C4434F.5070908@post.cybercity.dk> References: <48A331AC.1010004@addcom.de> <48C4434F.5070908@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:38:11 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: OT: new release "String Theories" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:44:58 +0000 (UTC) Hi LD, Sorry for off topic. this is my new release information. Compilation based on string instruments as primary sound source. Limited edition of 400 handnumbered copies in cardboard sleeve with insert. 1. Relapxych.0 : Feedback Rain (Edit) (14:19) Sound sources used: Guiter and various recordings of water. 2. Sunao Inami : The Shortest Tree (12:00) Equipments used: Jerry Jones Longhorn Bass6,Ableton Live and Mac Book Pro. 3. Randy Greif : ...And The Sky Became The Sea (17:24) For this track I decided to deconstruct a portion of a Spanish flamenco song as the sole source for my contribution entitled. 4. If, Bwana / Evan Leed : Screaming (16:23) Al Margolis - guitar, Evan Leed - Electronics etc. 5. Pendro : Golar Wash (10:50) Instruments: Oud,Semi-Acoustic Bowed Guitar,Violin. Processing: Audiomulch,Cool Edit Label: Metamorph Records Catalog#: META001 Format: CD, Compilation, Limited Edition Country: UK Released: Oct 2008 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Abstract, Drone, Experimental http://www.myspace.com/metamorphrecords http://shop.cavestudio.org/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/682 Regards Sunao Inami From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 16:58:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05CFC3BE99; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 325 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:58:36 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=hWagxN6owo4FNQ8Bu37dAQI4RYmCrmilYas5rhkhO+8=; b=elNbgtZRxdPtZtulqR2ilscMPsEi5AYMZBDUvCza6iLSRZ9/Ba9GTexAmLWcfuJ0xm O0QCx0kG+4Qd1LIGisyqW6+1WqIYc+V3LbJMkrqv13dDGlCtB/ZTCro53yPKm+pWoDaO vXv9FuHWDtwsMu1Jbl4vBHN/JbB5tbqtn/U0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=GUxrKgT2ptu8j8P00230Aci92lCqHvJGF7WgufjdPZ6gHIN+WKwZsaJtgpoO+FQZQL pgaV07wHwImI1tYPa7eF0XkCotLwo2LTuujOupqbJfYXf5i242Cy+i9T44ligMbHpvI3 9UI6i1WchCWsXMVKx3+RfgJ+KFC/xKIXoL/5w= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:53:10 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Videotaped Double Bass Loopin' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi everybody, Thanks again for all the help for getting me on my way looping. I put up a couple videos I taped of myself looping in my room. The first one is a cover of Bjork's Unravel and the second one is a cover of Sweet Child o Mine by Guns and Roses. In the sweet child one the volume of the loops is much lower because I was using the audio from the camcorder. In the Bjork one, the volume is much better because I finally figured out how to record my session in Live as I'm looping. Then I just used that audio instead of the camcorder audio. I'm still using a mic to get the audio in the computer because I haven't figured out a pickup solution but I understand so much more about pickups now thanks to you guys and shouldn't have a problem figuring out the best solution. Since I'm not playing for an audience and I'm using headphones I'm thinking a mic is probably going to be the best sound for an acoustic string instrument anyway. I would love comments good or bad about my looping. I am new to this so I could use any help you experienced loopers can provide. I setup a page on Vimeo. So far it seems much better than you tube http://www.vimeo.com/gtmbass Thank you for checking it out, Todd Matthews From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 17:25:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EA763BEA0; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:25:06 EDT Subject: Re: Videotaped Double Bass Loopin' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c41.47f18890.3630bbf2_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:25:11 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c41.47f18890.3630bbf2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 10/22/08 12:58:42 PM, gtmatthews@gmail.com writes: > http://www.vimeo.com/gtmbass >=20 todd.....you are off and running!.....what great sound!.....you should do a=20 cover of spinal tap's BIG BOTTOM.....:).....glad to see another=20 addict.....can't wait to hear more.....michael "when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a=20 butterfly"..... kenneth patchen new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! 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In a message dated 10/22/08 12:58:42 PM, gtmatthews@gmail.com writes:


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todd.....you are off and running!.....what great sound!.....you should do= a cover of spinal tap's BIG BOTTOM.....:).....glad to see another addict...= ..can't wait to hear more.....michael



"when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a butterfly"...= .. kenneth patchen

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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x120= 0689022/aol?redir=3D http://www.games.com?ncid=3Demlcntusgame00000001) --part1_c41.47f18890.3630bbf2_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 17:44:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 827953BEA0; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <2618E59C-0505-4A64-9A2A-B7585C5F16C5@glasswing.com> From: RICHARD SALES To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--570372481 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:44:06 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Resent-Message-ID: <35RGKB.A.muC.qZ2_IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:44:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11--570372481 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Prayers from Vancouver Island, Canada! In 1998 our son had a brain tumor. He was 18. First doctor said =20 "Prepare to lose your son" I responded, "Prepare to go fuck yourself." We hit the ground running and found out that one of the very best best =20= brain surgeons in the USA was in our hometown at the time, Portland, =20 Oregon. HE said, "Your son is going to walk out of here" We fell in love with him immediately. But we didn't rely just on =20 western medicine. We emailed all our friends and asked them to email =20= all THEIR friends and eventually had a prayer circle that spanned the =20= globe - as you have done. Very smart. I'm a very spiritual person but not real into the 'woo woo' aspect. =20 But I am absolutely convinced that the prayers were a VERY BIG part of =20= the miracle that happened. It's now ten years later and he's the father of two beautiful =20 daughters, rides his bike to work daily and is a well of wonderfulness =20= for all who meet him. Programming for the U.N., building his own =20 house, doing very well. And no trace of the cancer The same will happen for Hilde Triumbikam yajamahay, sugandeem pushtee vardinam, urva ruka meeva =20 bondinat, myrityor mukshee a mamritat (Trimbikam healing prayer/mantra -- spelled phonetically) (It works!) nothing but the best RICHARD SALES www.glasswing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:39 AM, Tony K wrote: > Positive vibes and thoughts go out to you and yours. > > That technology sounds amazing. Interesting times we live in. > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM, mark francombe = > wrote: > Hi! > > I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now =20 > with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT =20 > NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel.... > > I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping prayer/=20= > healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my love =20 > Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 =20 > weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday =20 > performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid =20= > you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center of the =20 > tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled =20 > and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer. > Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior =20 > doctor as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was =20 > terrible at that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger =20 > because its not travelling through any organs to get to the spot, =20 > cos its there. they can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via =20= > remote control. > > I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but maybe, =20= > just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost directly =20= > the other side of the planet can have an effect too... > > Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. > > Mark > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > > > > --=20 > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony --Apple-Mail-11--570372481 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Prayers from Vancouver Island, = Canada!

In 1998 our son had a brain tumor.  He = was 18.  First doctor said "Prepare to lose your = son"

I responded, "Prepare to go fuck = yourself."

We hit the ground running and found = out that one of the very best best brain surgeons in the USA was in our = hometown at the time, Portland, Oregon.  HE said, "Your son is = going to walk out of here"

We fell in love with = him immediately.  But we didn't rely just on western medicine. =  We emailed all our friends and asked them to email all THEIR = friends and eventually had a prayer circle that spanned the globe - as = you have done. Very smart.

I'm a very spiritual = person but not real into the 'woo woo' aspect.  But I am absolutely = convinced that the prayers were a VERY BIG part of the miracle that = happened.  

It's now ten years later and = he's the father of two beautiful daughters, rides his bike to work daily = and is a well of wonderfulness for all who meet him.  Programming = for the U.N., building his own house, doing very = well.

And no trace of the = cancer

The same will happen for = Hilde

Triumbikam yajamahay, sugandeem pushtee = vardinam, urva ruka meeva bondinat, myrityor mukshee a = mamritat 
(Trimbikam healing prayer/mantra -- spelled = phonetically) (It works!)

nothing but the = best

RICHARD SALES
<= font class=3D"Apple-style-span" color=3D"#908E38">www.richardsales.com
=


On Oct 20, 2008, at 6:39 = AM, Tony K wrote:

Positive vibes and thoughts go out to = you and yours. 

That technology sounds amazing.  = Interesting times we live in. 

On = Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:
Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, = for privacy issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff = in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to = cancel....

I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a = looping prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and = my love Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 = weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday = performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you = not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center of the tumour that = is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and directed = beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
Called = Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor as = "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that = game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not = travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they = can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.
=
I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but = maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost = directly the other side of the planet can have an effect = too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.

Mark =
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no
=



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Tony







= --Apple-Mail-11--570372481-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 17:57:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 018ED3BEA6; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=rM0CfwbnrjsSUyhziDvzQh25mlvpYvvNJ8wxcFZK1Zk=; b=G0iAnViIM49vLRWHZAqn0wImcwfNTcpekv5TaVHjCqxY7VakZMWIm+naSoZl83P1Yb kHGMHqVBkc7rdiPeTC1VkcQIRn2HtTfelAViO2BFT/QLVWfIDeJaYRdPWEvWDTy4yMn1 U+ZvHBi5DZi5Baq2yy5LCAVe+yHAEvGH/GmCM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=e8QmfNQoh/vK/DzrMiBzMThmDibxLYDFk1jeF32WSoPiczArF8gKyjBduVDQulGXKq EOrXAxGAHqDvHPv94sgdYJthKrfiCDuq91H7VtcjlnqgVKEJ9zCDZ/vxIGPapLfqVD5d WlBZEFZ9E1MxdJuT/yeqc+6NT3JgrkhNiDuVk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <2618E59C-0505-4A64-9A2A-B7585C5F16C5@glasswing.com> References: <9ab0c76f0810191501nd524641l19cd8ac0e69e9861@mail.gmail.com> <2618E59C-0505-4A64-9A2A-B7585C5F16C5@glasswing.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--566007905 Message-Id: From: Ariel Rzezak Subject: Re: Call to Santa Cruz loopers to send a healing loop! Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 15:56:51 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:57:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--566007905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed >> Very very best wishes from Argentina fly there. Ariel. >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM, mark francombe =20 >> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> I havent mentioned this on LD before, for privacy issues, but now =20 >> with all my looper friends doing their stuff in Santa Cruz RIGHT =20 >> NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to cancel.... >> >> I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a looping =20 >> prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and my =20= >> love Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy =20 >> for 3 weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the =20 >> monday performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have =20 >> (and I kid you not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center =20= >> of the tumour that is in her cervix, which will emit extremely =20 >> controlled and directed beams of radiation to the hopfully =20 >> weakened cancer. >> Called Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior =20= >> doctor as "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was =20 >> terrible at that game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger =20 >> because its not travelling through any organs to get to the spot, =20 >> cos its there. they can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" =20 >> via remote control. >> >> I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but =20 >> maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost =20= >> directly the other side of the planet can have an effect too... >> >> Have a great show guys, and wish us luck. >> >> Mark >> --=20 >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> www.looop.no >> >> >> >> --=20 >> -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- >> Tony > > > > > > > --Apple-Mail-1--566007905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1


Very very best wishes from Argentina fly = there.

Ariel.

On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:01 PM, mark francombe = <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:
Hi!

I havent mentioned this on LD before, = for privacy issues, but now with all my looper friends doing their stuff = in Santa Cruz RIGHT NOW... Where I should be playing, but had to = cancel....

I hope that you'all will send one big muthafucka of a = looping prayer/healing loop out with all your creative energy to me and = my love Hilde. She has been undergoing Radiation and Chemo therapy for 3 = weeks now and tomorrow, at precisely the same time as the monday = performances at Y2K8, she will be put to sleep, and have (and I kid you = not) a nano robot inserted directly into the center of the tumour that = is in her cervix, which will emit extremely controlled and directed = beams of radiation to the hopfully weakened cancer.
Called = Brachiotherapy, it was described to be by a grinning junior doctor as = "not unlike Asteroids!" Well I hope its not, I was terrible at that = game! Anyway, the radiation can be much stonger because its not = travelling through any organs to get to the spot, cos its there. they = can watch it on a CT monitor, and "drive it" via remote control.
=
I=B4m not a terrible spacy or new-agey or religeos person, but = maybe, just maybe, all those good vibe loops emanating from almost = directly the other side of the planet can have an effect = too...

Have a great show guys, and wish us luck.

Mark =
--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no
=



--
-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D= -
Tony






=


= --Apple-Mail-1--566007905-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 18:46:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C82773BEAE; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3614 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:46:27 UTC Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:46:07 -0400 From: Scott Duncan Subject: Re: Videotaped Double Bass Loopin' In-reply-to: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <127A7756-B66D-409F-AEE3-EA4F1DF6AD98@webworkz.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--570251405 References: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:46:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--570251405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 22, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > Hi everybody, > > Thanks again for all the help for getting me on my way looping. I put > up a couple videos I taped of myself looping in my room. The first one > is a cover of Bjork's Unravel and the second one is a cover of Sweet > Child o Mine by Guns and Roses. In the sweet child one the volume of > the loops is much lower because I was using the audio from the > camcorder. In the Bjork one, the volume is much better because I > finally figured out how to record my session in Live as I'm looping. > Then I just used that audio instead of the camcorder audio. I'm still > using a mic to get the audio in the computer because I haven't figured > out a pickup solution but I understand so much more about pickups now > thanks to you guys and shouldn't have a problem figuring out the best > solution. Since I'm not playing for an audience and I'm using > headphones I'm thinking a mic is probably going to be the best sound > for an acoustic string instrument anyway. > > I would love comments good or bad about my looping. I am new to this > so I could use any help you experienced loopers can provide. > > I setup a page on Vimeo. So far it seems much better than you tube > > http://www.vimeo.com/gtmbass > > > Thank you for checking it out, > > Todd Matthews Great video posting Todd, (I think) You are so right that vimeo.com is far better the YTube, as the stereo field "pops" and supports the sound much much more. The morning light is great in your room, btw. Adding a clamp lamp or other light on the bass (I'm sure you've figured this already) would help enhance the 2nd vid's image quality..... Thanks for sharing. Rich sounding!! Scott Duncan (Videographer/Looper) Asheville, NC --Apple-Mail-3--570251405 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 22, 2008, = at 12:53 PM, Todd Matthews wrote:

Hi everybody,

Thanks again for all the help = for getting me on my way looping. I put
up a = couple videos I taped of myself looping in my room. The first = one
is a cover of Bjork's Unravel = and the second one is a cover of Sweet
Child o = Mine by Guns and Roses. In the sweet child one the volume of
the loops is much lower because I was using the = audio from the
camcorder. In the Bjork one, the = volume is much better because I
finally = figured out how to record my session in Live as I'm looping.
Then I just used that audio instead of the camcorder = audio. I'm still
using a mic to get the audio in = the computer because I haven't figured
out a = pickup solution but I understand so much more about pickups = now
thanks to you guys and shouldn't = have a problem figuring out the best
solution. = Since I'm not playing for an audience and I'm using
headphones I'm thinking a mic is probably going to = be the best sound
for an acoustic string = instrument anyway.
I would love comments good or = bad about my looping. I am new to this
so I = could use any help you experienced loopers can provide.

I setup = a page on Vimeo. So far it seems much better than you tube

http://www.vimeo.com/gtmbass


Thank you for = checking it out,

Todd Matthews

=
Great video posting = Todd,

(I = think) You are so right that vimeo.com is far better the YTube, as the = stereo field "pops" =A0and supports the sound much much = more.

The = morning light is great in your room, btw. Adding a clamp lamp or other = light on the bass (I'm sure you've figured this already) would help = enhance the 2nd vid's image quality.....

Thanks = for sharing. Rich sounding!!

Scott = Duncan=A0
(Videographer/Looper)
Asheville, = NC=A0






= --Apple-Mail-3--570251405-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 18:58:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A63FC3BE99; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 410 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:58:56 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=WrxfY/N814CM2C/QDncEbRKEAfuwZsUtDeOQJ93LqNg=; b=Rzc053+BPlM4GYya2eFyA3iHA1SuHGA56S4CYxpKxziFHjf30csvSjRTbGRHKd7Lkl ElZTbdN3Ewb2uVRTmBrluZ2Ae33fpByulmmA25Q7c/vb8a2/wfZlBVsrm5p7b1MSfudk GqlhTgSzNAA/h/pkcTY95ZXUU5fJD9hyiNEp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=PkSG93XBkkZjqKlvqyPTR51GOfOikAyz8p37LXEFaRzHvwrS0g7M3WA0j6ge54Vepn BoXP+EBhhMiQzcaNBk7jlzeUfiZgwnKprzgLZGgogwPWdP7P2EdG0O0OotvSiIRmYSLU GIqTXHnNW1KgEpIGZM+6orC8pyB7PfCgPPQwk= Message-ID: <8feb287a0810221152l1b007517n8891c55aae7d9043@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 14:52:05 -0400 From: "Todd Lainhart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex's brother Icaue In-Reply-To: <1d398954ff6385fc6c477b1ee4b5c1c2@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline References: <1d398954ff6385fc6c477b1ee4b5c1c2@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:58:56 +0000 (UTC) SW5kZWVkIC0gd2VsY29tZSBiYWNrIE1hdHRoaWFzLCBhbmQgY29uZ3JhdHVsYXRpb25zISAgV2Ug YWxsIGxvb2sKZm9yd2FyZCB0byBoZWFyaW5nIG1vcmUgb2YgeW91ciBhZHZlbnR1cmVzLgoKT24g VHVlLCBPY3QgMjEsIDIwMDggYXQgMTA6MjggQU0sIHRFZCAoUikgS2lMTGlBbgo8dGVka2lsbGlh bkBjaGFydGVyLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6Cj4KPiBNYXR0aGlhcywKPgo+IENvbmdyYXR1bGF0aW9ucyB0 byB5b3UgTWF0dGlhcyBhbmQgaGFwcHkgYmlydGhkYXkgSWNhdcOpLgo+Cj4gQmVzdCByZWdhcmRz LAo+Cj4gVGVkIEtpbGxpYW4KPgo= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 19:07:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 527D63BEC7; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Videotaped Double Bass Loopin' Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:07:37 +0200 Message-ID: <006201c93479$72e18800$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: Ack0b9Hpz+9YzxRuR3mNGf9rcpSEcwACVfMw In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> X-AntiVirus: checked (outgoing) by AntiVir MailGuard (Version: 8.0.0.42; AVE: 8.2.0.5; VDF: 7.0.7.70) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:07:43 +0000 (UTC) > I put up a couple videos I taped of myself looping in my room. The first one is a cover of Bjork's Unravel awesome. What a sound. Looking forward to more of this Michael www.michaelpeters.de From root@server.fit.com Wed Oct 22 19:11:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 536 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:11:20 UTC Received: from server.fit.com (93-97-51-78.zone5.bethere.co.uk [93.97.51.78]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 081F33BE90 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by server.fit.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 42AB32FE00D; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:54:32 +0100 (BST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081022185432.42AB32FE00D@server.fit.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:54:32 +0100 (BST)
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RSZUQQGLVYHWTDITRXWMEZMSVXVYPYRORPVSJV From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 20:15:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 978C23BEA6; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:15:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_433fe7a0-7395-47c1-ab9e-cb7013feafd0_" X-Originating-IP: [76.126.57.70] From: samba - To: Subject: frequencies Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:15:02 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20081022013944.EE4663BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20081022013944.EE4663BE86@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2008 20:15:03.0236 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE0A0040:01C93482] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:15:04 +0000 (UTC) --_433fe7a0-7395-47c1-ab9e-cb7013feafd0_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read a piece in either recording engineer =2Cor mix the early to mid 9= 0s=2C(it was sort of in between the late early 90s=2Cn the early mid 90s.) = Some japanese engineers rather than doing a/b tests and asking people if th= ey could id which was analog and which digital=2Cinstead measured brainwave= responses=2Cand found that after 20 minutes or so analog elicited some sor= t of measurable entrainment between brain halves=2Cwhich the digital did no= t trigger. It is possible that freq above what can be percieved as audio still effec= t bodies in some way. I think it's a common assumption that the ears are al= l that is effected by sound.which is certainly not true. If it was this sub= woofer fad wouldn=3Bt be happening. In the old days when people communicate= d across distances with drums=2Cit slikely that the sound could be felt thr= ogh the ground. Modern life is so full of noise that folks screen out as mu= ch or more than they let in. Perhaps the overtone series above human audio range effects lower freq in = percievable ways. Human a range upper end is usually considered 20khz=2Ccon= trast some birds that can hear 200=2C000 hz.= --_433fe7a0-7395-47c1-ab9e-cb7013feafd0_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3BI read a piece in either =3B recording engineer =2Cor mix = =3B the early to mid 90s=2C(it was sort of in between the late early 90s=2C= n the early mid 90s.) Some japanese engineers rather than doing a/b tests a= nd asking people if they could id which was analog and which digital=2Cinst= ead measured brainwave responses=2Cand found that after 20 minutes or so an= alog elicited some sort of measurable entrainment between brain halves=2Cwh= ich the digital did not trigger.
 =3B It is possible that freq above= what can be percieved as audio still effect bodies in some way. I think it= 's a common assumption that the ears are all that is effected by sound.whic= h is certainly not true. If it was this subwoofer fad wouldn=3Bt be happeni= ng. In the old days when people communicated across distances with drums=2C= it slikely that the sound could be felt throgh the ground. Modern life is s= o full of noise that folks screen out as much or more than they let in.
=  =3BPerhaps the overtone series above human audio range effects lower f= req in percievable ways. Human a range upper end is usually considered 20kh= z=2Ccontrast some birds that can hear 200=2C000 hz. = --_433fe7a0-7395-47c1-ab9e-cb7013feafd0_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 20:20:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 421B93BE93; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=WGQPKN8RqwOxkSMX9Bf6wulJ3eMZ68qTZlFWvr7X1GA=; b=taX1gu85wUdrs9wjOf9ayYrG31tsZ/u+jMT7MVfcdwFAbe9k17kNoduIGm1ELUG07Y kX4tIyWgOsNw19Jw+Wu7sRg2MYRly6PdyVlYMeMWFSItqi0CLZj2a2EPdYw2cP7nr37h c4lEfZZj4GlPUK2BTtz9XELPWCJE/lv07TpkI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=p8a9pw8Tp7WFs18Uc991UsUZ0H4xA6u/wAe7msMpboAD0Xvrb8/xNDkXMX0OqQwy42 fG+Y/D+MrCB+XG1NtWhx4R7135Im94Xtu8GagBuzESSHcyKoKb8cG8P0DDyysJYOVd9d 2aXSFvfe2JvVtbXPNFwvZV3R5nOUQvpzGClEc= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:20:40 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pictures from Norwich Looping Festival last week MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:20:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Here's a few pix from Norwich Looping festival last week: http://www.flickr.com/photos/15515975@N00/sets/72157608105550046/ During the week many more bands were playing, so this is by no means a complete documentation. More a sort of "private photo album". Sound files and videos exist but so far no time to for posting them. Maybe soon... -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 20:58:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867553BEA6; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48FF93FB.7070204@hevanet.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 13:58:35 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pictures from Norwich Looping Festival last week References: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:58:29 +0000 (UTC) Excellent photos! (Dangerous Ground documented!) ...what kind of pickup are you using on the flute? Thnx, David Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Here's a few pix from Norwich Looping festival last week: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/15515975@N00/sets/72157608105550046/ > > During the week many more bands were playing, so this is by no means a > complete documentation. More a sort of "private photo album". Sound > files and videos exist but so far no time to for posting them. Maybe > soon... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 21:23:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 628683BEA2; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Fw0XjVeEaW6e1/TBhZ6JC01TkH0dggvmcsbghHilj4U=; b=ma8D4egS+ZINRvOD0QBy/JphYCssc1dHpRrhpWUtSGT9ZVJYVfrr755YTzNkn+bd3D SkW4oUfXps+ld8ZrUhr4gjyfgncaLhjZv+IJ2mx9qeaQC2KkMpHWRrPv2i8SGinWoCBx UtPGu+VDHKj95KOeCoYZ+hHPx8r6Z/LZM5fPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wEF9+T+PQ61yBt7GatGGbNcF/n8zwbNiEEc6Yy2fiS7fEYNDk6Rm37nzWcikqpQVa7 TPnBQ1QhRdIxu6Ab8PGzgJlQa3PFBzR1POVAABWGY2EEAhtwMhU4Rsme0mXWxkBXUiD2 5jddTH/ZQK9hWAlfrhUnMvyPI5bLW/oMga37s= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810221423x50068cbeu1b5c1d562f8ca7e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:23:21 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pictures from Norwich Looping Festival last week In-Reply-To: <48FF93FB.7070204@hevanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> <48FF93FB.7070204@hevanet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Audio-technica "power module" fly. per On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 10:58 PM, David Auker wrote: > Excellent photos! (Dangerous Ground documented!) > > ...what kind of pickup are you using on the flute? > > Thnx, David > > Per Boysen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Here's a few pix from Norwich Looping festival last week: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15515975@N00/sets/72157608105550046/ >> >> During the week many more bands were playing, so this is by no means a >> complete documentation. More a sort of "private photo album". Sound >> files and videos exist but so far no time to for posting them. Maybe >> soon... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 22:11:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CA3C3BE98; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=pcstqjHl+hg09OvcqLoENGC5re0BFfNokLTHUsrGo44=; b=V99YDcedEgLoCoWF459yCkWiNbCiFiax+hafXjdvDqBWns7mjngq6wVyNMALD4Rn9k RUvsWt29zjfCUeUjEOXvHH96/sQ6iJm/khkbuAPPNqE22xeN+XpWtNW5K+sff0O1kjnl EnD/iaPsXMxi977kLU9je3zNeQcbGe398N48c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=OJMD57jDYOKj6MX739Lsg5oGnh4B8mIltHibc0qKbWaX2y4928ojI6skaBGAy9jGnc 30i64xg9M9hFnTb50RoDvG8r065Bh/ggIzqiNPiHSOYy7WypFhlHSyCo2x2kD2HxXPPh mH5Y3wvTwu1aWt80yuz03TBy2dGovTfKdhrVU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:04:45 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pictures from Norwich Looping Festival last week In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27922_28298759.1224713085458" References: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:11:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27922_28298759.1224713085458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline So great!I'd wished to listen to those bits ... Andy+Per ... arghh! can't resist. Go load something up! Ra=FCl. 2008/10/22 Per Boysen > Hi, > > Here's a few pix from Norwich Looping festival last week: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/15515975@N00/sets/72157608105550046/ > > During the week many more bands were playing, so this is by no means a > complete documentation. More a sort of "private photo album". Sound > files and videos exist but so far no time to for posting them. Maybe > soon... > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_27922_28298759.1224713085458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline So great!
I'd wished to listen to those bits ...
Andy+Per= ... arghh! can't resist.

Go load something up= !

Ra=FCl.

2008/1= 0/22 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi,

Here's a few pix from Norwich Looping festival last week:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15515975@N00/sets/7215760= 8105550046/

During the week many more bands were playing, so this is by no means a
complete documentation. More a sort of "private photo album". Sou= nd
files and videos exist but so far no time to for posting them. Maybe
soon...

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedi= sh)
www.looproom.com = (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com




--
The Playing Orch= estra: http://www.telefonica= .net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http= ://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_27922_28298759.1224713085458-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 22:14:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40DE3BEAE; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.135] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Y2K Websites Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:14:21 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0070_01C93461.3DD4D440" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2008 22:14:22.0555 (UTC) FILETIME=[895362B0:01C93493] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:14:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C93461.3DD4D440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For your reference: Y2K5 - http://www.xmlizer.biz/nosuch.biz/zhlf05/y2k5/index.html Y2K6 - http://www.y2kloopfest.com/y2k6/index.html Y2K7 - http://www.y2kloopfest.com/y2k7/index.html Y2K8 - http://www.y2kloopfest.com/index.html Some pictures are already starting to appear on the Y2K8 site. http://www.y2kloopfest.com/images.html Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C93461.3DD4D440 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For your reference:
 
Y2K5 - http://= www.xmlizer.biz/nosuch.biz/zhlf05/y2k5/index.html
Y2K6 - http://www.y2kloopfes= t.com/y2k6/index.html
Y2K7 - http://www.y2kloopfes= t.com/y2k7/index.html
Y2K8 - http://www.y2kloopfest.com= /index.html
 
Some pictures are already starting to = appear on the=20 Y2K8 site.
http://www.y2kloopfest.co= m/images.html
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0070_01C93461.3DD4D440-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 22 22:14:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 421133BEC9; Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:14:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.135] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Cc: Subject: New CD Release - "Abstractions and Associations", Hartung, McFadin, Hallock, Shawn, Good Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 16:14:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C93461.4FB67740" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2008 22:14:53.0150 (UTC) FILETIME=[9B8FCFE0:01C93493] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:14:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C93461.4FB67740 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0076_01C93461.4FB67740" ------=_NextPart_001_0076_01C93461.4FB67740 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Abstractions and Associations" a.. Krispen Hartung - Mini archtop guitar, laptop computer, Max/MSP, = Reaktor b.. Brian McFadin - Contralto clarinet, toy piano, twanger, recorder, = bamboo flute, bells, whistles, vocals, kalimba, tenor sax, bird calls, = Peruvian pan pipes, siren c.. Jared Hallock - Drums, toy piano, recorder, bells, shaker, brushes d.. Daryl Shawn - Nylon string guitar, cassette four-track, = microcassette Dictaphone e.. Brian Good - Soprano sax, EWI, Nord Micromodular, laptop, Absynth, = Sculpture, Cameleon BUY physical CD: http://Kunaki.com/Sales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZAKRT5 Download MP3s Improvisation #1 (36:03) (Hartung, McFadin, Hallock) - = http://www.box.net/shared/yndj97zlrt Improvisation #2 (9:44) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - = http://www.box.net/shared/c1c97myvsv Improvisation #3 (7:33) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - = http://www.box.net/shared/8chivht6jq Improvisation #4 (5:41) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - = http://www.box.net/shared/58sijn0uh4 All performances were recorded live at the 3rd Annual Boise Experimental = Music Festival, 2008 www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-3 Credits: Aaron Davis (live mixing/recording for Improvisation #1; Rainer = Straschill (host for the=20 Kybermusik internet performances and live mixing/recording for = Improvisations #2-4; Krispen Hartung=20 (director of the Boise Experimental Music Festival, CD graphic design, = and song mastering); Thee Art Of=20 and Corkscrew Photography (performance photos); Kunaki.com (CD = production) ------=_NextPart_001_0076_01C93461.4FB67740 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
"Abstractions and=20 Associations"
  • Krispen Hartung - = Mini archtop=20 guitar, laptop computer, Max/MSP, Reaktor
  • Brian McFadin - = Contralto=20 clarinet, toy piano, twanger, recorder, bamboo flute, bells, whistles, = vocals,=20 kalimba, tenor sax, bird calls, Peruvian pan pipes, siren
  • Jared Hallock - = Drums, toy piano,=20 recorder, bells, shaker, brushes
  • Daryl Shawn - Nylon = string=20 guitar, cassette four-track, microcassette Dictaphone
  • Brian Good - Soprano = sax, EWI,=20 Nord Micromodular, laptop, Absynth, Sculpture, = Cameleon
 
BUY physical CD: http://Kunaki.com/S= ales.asp?PID=3DPX00ZAKRT5

Download = MP3s
Improvisation #1 (36:03) = (Hartung, McFadin,=20 Hallock) - http://www.box.net/shared/yndj97zlrt
Improvisation #2 (9:44) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, = Good) -=20 http://www.box.net/shared/c1c97myvsv
Improvisation #3 (7:33) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - = http://www.box.net/shared/8chivht6jq
Improvisation #4 (5:41) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - = http://www.box.net/shared/58sijn0uh4
 
All performances were recorded live at = the 3rd=20 Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival, 2008
www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF= -3
 
Credits: Aaron Davis = (live=20 mixing/recording for Improvisation #1; Rainer Straschill (host for the=20
Kybermusik internet performances and live mixing/recording for=20 Improvisations #2-4; Krispen Hartung
(director of the Boise = Experimental=20 Music Festival, CD graphic design, and song mastering); Thee Art Of =
and=20 Corkscrew Photography (performance photos); Kunaki.com (CD=20 production)
 
 
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Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Ack0k51Cw+auKB6yRHGQBQoGNiIocAAE/cIQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:44:31 +0000 (UTC) > Improvisation #2 (9:44) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - http://www.box.net/shared/c1c97myvsv > Improvisation #3 (7:33) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - http://www.box.net/shared/8chivht6jq > Improvisation #4 (5:41) (Hartung, McFadin, Shawn, Good) - http://www.box.net/shared/58sijn0uh4 > Credits: Aaron Davis (live mixing/recording for Improvisation #1; Rainer Straschill (host for the > Kybermusik internet performances and live mixing/recording for Improvisations #2-4; Krispen Hartung As someone who actually wound up in the liner notes for this release, let me tell you that the joint performance of Hartung, McFadin, Shawn and Good was for me the grande finale for the kybermusik "sub-festival" event which I liked the best so far. For those of you interested, Krispen didn't play in the traditional meaning of the word, rather he limited himself to process Brian (McFadin)'s playing. And I believe I don't need to tell anyone anymore that Daryl and Brian (Good) are outstanding "kybermusicians" in all their own right... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 01:11:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D80A3BEBA; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: <70d6aff21498b138fc1b150bd44842d2@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: New CD Release - "Abstractions and Associations", Hartung, McFadin, Hallock, Shawn, Good Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2008 18:11:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 01:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Krispen, Listened to the downloads of these this afternoon. Excellent! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 07:48:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9CB93BE80; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hoAk85YVDOEHVU8t5wXbC9iFYnQEc7Y7NsDDMTF9VDs=; b=emoRCtBrB5g4d7NF8kCPQh1BF66C4hEMKYndV1nYq4lTw/fHxptRZH2PdNgZAqEUyS 1vBjF+jlhYLyaBoWMnHalkWshrovdD/oXkr/b4q39McLqJkpmQBJ9uyGj3gFiEVFRjYa o0mJWycg3/hfKARoqsDL4JQCnN2zOvw9QdPUA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=wcDDuPkx7XbCMlPaaRYlJqcbmlwK+Ut/OmRpvYe/3QnbEYkb5q85e9y2ArR6PEAlJj ZiqqkXS0nhRDu0+2XV51dEtO3evXhS88qhCrRgXocDEtAfs9uukbp//TNk59jyBL8EMu 7LC/xYZXHdE00P/f+ABImLzRYoNhjWbp5AXIM= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:48:36 +0300 From: "Jeff Lomas" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Videotaped Double Bass Loopin' In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 07:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Real nice Bjork cover, Todd. What are you using to mic the bass? -Jeff www.nightmarepuppies.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 09:30:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 366883BE82; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=/xuyGglai6rhAebPiFq0c1H2W9UPC6MsJQQ9fhf663U=; b=LitqeZrR9nDHYvR3ajfFTWKOT/Rg43Fpbcv0Umy2wzZvMMgP9T42K2QawwXi5wFkVC /a4clSRJ2fnq0KgzBaiXk7i/HbN5NG9bat25QpAuINDDH2/Bm0XcJWAXrKFFe0pfSbr+ h62FUqPohAD2oA6Bf1TJqlCnasCP9h6H0Jfpk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Mv/083iC1hOTYrlkPehp0/GvQUkFc4CXgaObqjioU9LbB/Q4nBwzoLZGd/8hwLrFi7 TPKvNUCYeArjflDZHBb9o/XumAoJFcLVjX8dlEAVV/yo7vw00CXsrwxu7L7sbB6eJ1OJ +VOVR552z+9s/ChqcoJWAxDJhPmytRHep2X+4= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810230230x1e49e683seaf0cc00b1d15279@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 05:30:28 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Videotaped Double Bass Loopin' In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ea2f30b0810220953t3425f77bm5eb6fbc732e3c925@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Thank you Jeff. It's a AT4040 going into an ultralite. Todd On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 3:48 AM, Jeff Lomas wrote: > Real nice Bjork cover, Todd. What are you using to mic the bass? > > -Jeff > www.nightmarepuppies.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 10:54:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 831703BE82; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:54:35 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To Afterglow, Galactic Travels, The AM/FM Show, Car Talk, and Good Clean Fun To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <490057EB.5050800@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: <_76orC.A.QGF.TfFAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:54:11 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Check out Afterglow on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue a month-long Special Focus on the Ricochet Gatherings. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk three from "Poland 2004" by Ricochet Gathering on the Ricochet Dream label. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#oct Become a friend of Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, October 25 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh CAR TALK http://wdiy.org ======================================================================= Saturday at 10 am during Car Talk, I will help host the show on WDIY to entire you to become a member of WDIY. Yes folks, it's the WDIY Fall Membership Drive. It is very important for listeners to become members because that is how WDIY stays on the air. No commercials every five minutes day in and day out. Just great programming with two membership drives each year. Hey, we've got bills, too. So if you enjoy what you hear on WDIY, now is the time to support the station with your membership. Call 610-758-8810 and take two minutes to make a pledge or make a secure on-line pledge at http://wdiy.org and feel good about supporting 88.1 FM. 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Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 11:14:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 811533BE8A; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:14:57 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=2/kf0LdC2LWNt7CX5pZW9H4vNyc56Mlo3cxNW+T0bajVPMqn+C/JArUY2lXOWiTtRMIdPKMurd12gVEfYD4oTn6fIcYQX2gyNmWk0jLZe3hGsos5wsQ+7zhzy/GbrWL7AovJzl6KCkohqnMDs77sKyShvCZBSN/XqTkhhDymgdQ=; X-YMail-OSG: JagnWIQVM1lYNYWD6Au9zVQxxmyxVfRWA67TF6BL3ivqFAf_kSrl7v7X8jIFbk7ppaWRrYfl8L9hkYimfv1oshDq3S_iFlMD4LWXyVEQhQnr8FgiKLmxflGOXevSICcDEuAAAKfyUqQRnDt18dsG8O18VDZgqe1zS38vxlUMCpPLd5FvEuYoGcJzTfQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 04:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: K D Patten Subject: Lurker surfacing with OT Question To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-376609700-1224760095=:90006" Message-ID: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:14:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-376609700-1224760095=:90006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?. Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA=A0 50131 =A0 http://www.cdbaby.co= m/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20 " N=EDl gach uile fh=E1na=ED caillte"=A0 - Gaelic - "Not all who wander are= lost" --0-376609700-1224760095=:90006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must ha= ve Brian Eno recording?= .

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22
Johnston, IA  50131
 
http://= www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
<= /span>http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten         
<= /span>" N=EDl gach uile fh=E1na=ED caillte"  - Gaelic - "Not all who wander are lost"
--0-376609700-1224760095=:90006-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 11:41:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45B13BE8A; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <012e01c93504$572566a0$0400000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: exciting sound design tools Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:41:50 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_012B_01C9351D.7BB6A1A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:41:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01C9351D.7BB6A1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi to all, i am upgrading my studio. i have hundreds of plugins, softsynths, but i = would like to buy some very unique and weird sounding hardware = equipment. i am very interested in sherman filterbank at the moment. do = you know any other units, pedals that have a very unique character that = can be used in a professional studio? thanks and best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_012B_01C9351D.7BB6A1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hi to all,
 
i am upgrading my studio. i have hundreds of plugins, softsynths, = but i=20 would like to buy some very unique and weird sounding hardware = equipment. i am=20 very interested in sherman filterbank at the moment. do you know any = other=20 units, pedals that have a very unique character that can be used in a=20 professional studio?
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.co= m/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
------=_NextPart_000_012B_01C9351D.7BB6A1A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 11:42:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B57AF3BE90; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <331DF48FC4664075B8BDF2133770AC0A@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:42:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9350C.DAA0C9E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:42:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9350C.DAA0C9E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I lean towards the earlier work by Eno, No Pussyfooting, but nowadays = it's also available in a collection "Ultimate Fripp & Eno" or something = like that. Others for me would be Music For Airports, and Music For = Films. There's not just one, alas. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: K D Patten=20 To: Loopers Delight=20 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: Lurker surfacing with OT Question hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno = recording?. Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten =20 " N=EDl gach uile fh=E1na=ED caillte" - Gaelic - "Not all who = wander are lost" =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C9350C.DAA0C9E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I lean towards the earlier work by Eno, No = Pussyfooting, but=20 nowadays it's also available in a collection "Ultimate Fripp & Eno" = or=20 something like that.  Others for me would be Music For Airports, = and Music=20 For Films.  There's not just one, alas.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 K D = Patten=20
To: Loopers = Delight
Sent: Thursday, October 23, = 2008 12:08=20 PM
Subject: Lurker surfacing with = OT=20 Question

hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must = have Brian Eno recording?.

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22
Johnston, IA  50131
 
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
http://www.myspace.com/kyl= edeanpatten         =20
" N=EDl gach uile fh=E1na=ED=20 caillte"  - Gaelic=20 - "Not all who wander are lost"=20 =
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 12:50:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 754263BE8A; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <490073DC.5070304@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:53:48 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Acoustic Sim [was: bbe sonic maximizer] References: <250901.7993.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <250901.7993.qm@web45307.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Tim Nelson wrote: > Similarly, I sometimes use a Boss Acoustic Simulator pedal not to make an electric sound like an acoustic (it doesn't), but as a way to set up two distinct foot-switchable tone settings, like one would do with EQ or by selecting pickups. > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 Not wanting to mud the maximizer thread.. Tim, would you mind tell me in which arrangement your use of the Boss Acoustic Simulator is apparent enough to be judged? I've often thought about obtaining one. I'm quite aware it'll never be like the real thing; still, using a clear wideranging guitar (basswood body and OBL 450 pickups) does give me a nice harmonics rich tone, especially when using (not too much) harmonizing with a subtle amount of multipole chorous (using a Digitech TSR-24S). I might get closer to a semi-acoustic tone with such a pedal.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 13:00:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB0E53BE91; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 93232219/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.189.169/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.189.169 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsBAGsSAElPTr2p/2dsb2JhbAAIwGuDToM5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,470,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="93232219" Message-ID: <490075E7.2020305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:02:31 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: exciting sound design tools References: <012e01c93504$572566a0$0400000a@ERDEMOLD> In-Reply-To: <012e01c93504$572566a0$0400000a@ERDEMOLD> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:00:23 +0000 (UTC) a personal favourite MAM RS3 Resonator http://filters.muziq.be/model/mam/rs3 the LFO mode is great for post processing loops, giving an impression of "continuous evolution". I also like the MAM Warp9 http://filters.muziq.be/model/mam/warp9 ..there's something about it's sound which doesn't take up a lot of space in a mix, and that's just really nice for looping. ..but apart from it's unique timbre, I imagine the Sherman could do everything it does and more. Both those are analog filters which take their circuits from vintage synths, RS3 is from a Korg(which I don't know) and Warp 9 from a tiny synth called a Wasp(wonderful) Here's reviews of both effects:- http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb01/articles/mameffects.asp andy butler Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi to all, > > i am upgrading my studio. i have hundreds of plugins, softsynths, but i > would like to buy some very unique and weird sounding hardware > equipment. i am very interested in sherman filterbank at the moment. do > you know any other units, pedals that have a very unique character that > can be used in a professional studio? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 13:34:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8AAE3BE8E; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 421 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:34:20 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=2Z4UwkPcBAt/hacdXnWv0U6NbiikCu9WROao1+hCfng=; b=i2u63gjJQSpHbcZBr8aXEXsXEfMBF7klpUX7apornjxiuLjO/Un04QU/SsF3zv5WFy gy1idfc+PHRB2AHASIYMMVUjHMH5RIeChScg83+xvoZaP6HSjNmjt/EGq1Lgrvt2Hm9r Cnki+mGCR0iB+7XRG7zyUg8WPnHWmsLmUMHuM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=iSEBNnpHvOccqyOTMZZ0ikmre/m6czWu+NfW8TTkQcfu8wgZLtGQ+DkeArkc7+eRG1 StkEXY/WdnbJNw41KWaquel5cP8TUy8LzxCUb8P7o9bdu/TG+XhEPUbMgBuR9F6Hhbjn H2hR79xKxJfJ/6f16qikSKtFtC3sufq1MGSb0= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:27:17 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Augustus Loop v2 is released, with OSC and scripting MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5ec78448eac50e59 Resent-Message-ID: <4i_sGB.A.7w.c1HAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi, you may be interested to know that Augustus Loop v2 is now released, which includes some major improvements for live looping. Full what's new here: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusnewv2.html There are a couple of things that might be of particular interest to the more advanced users here. Firstly, AL now supports OSC. Secondly, AL's response to MIDI and OSC can be controlled via scripts. This lets you build much more complex looping rigs than you can simply by assigning MIDI CCs to the plug-in parameters. Examples are here: http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/augustusscripts/index.html Lastly, for the more artistically minded, I'm currently running a competition, offering free licences to those producing the best skins for the plug-in's GUI. See http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ for more info. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 13:53:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8E93BE91; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=QbZ4MBwGW1C9GJVrr2E/D4J+ax53It8gF9cUpDw0cK2IwHIRZXY6e6qnInTfbEZD+i7nKox180GaTAkUi5MeOHL+/7Qkmg1D7NUFYzIaNKP8FoEsCle1GDo7ljhBu9v2sMb5rxvA6+P0tAUEL6r3dJ97/czs7Xum2m7JtkfcXNY=; X-YMail-OSG: aF_t.DQVM1mtstc4F.78g8JwW8ZJe2.dJhRdaJlph1Q.DohW0DobCkMChlNGKQFby5v05Slm5idkJD8VO9mhcwwo_BWOgg3xGbK0uuq38Ytu7_vokPUCFdI.cDb3sUasyXQSWoOMTr0qi3CW3ZF4Y6ZWqafuLn1Evj3K1heWNkmL2bcuquBLfHAp6w8- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.11 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:53:21 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-272682478-1224770001=:45538" Message-ID: <256003.45538.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:53:22 +0000 (UTC) --0-272682478-1224770001=:45538 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In my opinion as a musician (rather than as a looper), Another Green World,= Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and Here Come The Warm Jets are an esse= ntial triptych. I haven't reviewed his catalog since becoming seriously int= erested in looping, so FWIW.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: K D Patten =0ATo: Loopers Delight =0ASent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:08:15 AM=0AS= ubject: Lurker surfacing with OT Question=0A=0A=0Ahey guys ..in your opinio= n ...whats a must haveBrianEno recording?.=0A=0A=0AKyle Dean Patten=0AP.O. = Box 22=0AJohnston, IA 50131=0A =0Ahttp://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten =0Ahtt= p://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten =0A" N=EDl gach uile fh=E1na=ED= caillte" - Gaelic - "Not all who wander are lost" =0A=0A=0A --0-272682478-1224770001=:45538 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In my opinion as a musician (rather than as a looper), An= other Green World, Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and Here Come The War= m Jets are an essential triptych. I haven't reviewed his catalog since beco= ming seriously interested in looping, so FWIW.

From: K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com>
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hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?.

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=0A=0A --0-272682478-1224770001=:45538-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 14:14:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 004F43BE98; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9fjz2E4xUqolxsQwjQLHQODxriWZTyRlK5q5tmJVJ+E=; b=isF9jlD3ybnQn8rph8crD/K+BQ0+xa+He5HDJUhFxoq0QfwMPPwtIY70Fm/Yw3TWMf IK/mrah75OhrYcXSdIZ7sDIQBlt4kZdEqmYdyiIW4vPEkzH49ewF+1daYrhPuvMrQ8yj 0ZryISOXkIYwXRCbShhdZv6sBcMdGs11fI5Ms= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=nwYaLsnaUgi04Pu7ZjnFn4FYFnu7U5tu4qdik0/usuc5/XTWm3fk7CrHNQbrBEPPVx vM1dlmKGBqMi9SWZS8tFBrFFr6RkT08DAEuJ99DovLYtLwg5nyxaTkFJ6oU7fDdxpa1h P3/XN9zMgClmzpBjGHaa4nOYBQ3dzvH1V+OUY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:14:38 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question In-Reply-To: <256003.45538.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <256003.45538.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:14:39 +0000 (UTC) I'm rather fond of Discrete Music and Another Green World. But, Music for Airports is up there too. Very hard to pick just one. The Fripp and Eno stuff is good. I have The Essential Fripp and Eno (basically No Pussyfooting and Evening Star.) and enjoy that too. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:53 AM, George Ludwig wro= te: > In my opinion as a musician (rather than as a looper), Another Green Worl= d, > Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and Here Come The Warm Jets are an > essential triptych. I haven't reviewed his catalog since becoming serious= ly > interested in looping, so FWIW. > > ________________________________ > From: K D Patten > To: Loopers Delight > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:08:15 AM > Subject: Lurker surfacing with OT Question > > hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?. > > Kyle Dean Patten P.O. 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EcoBank Nigeria From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 14:57:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E1263BE99; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsBANctAElPTr2p/2dsb2JhbAAIwQqDToM5 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,470,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="96798840" Message-ID: <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:59:59 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Eno with David Byrne My Life in the Bush of Ghosts if I needed an ambient album, I guess it could be Ambient4 On Land and don't forget the first Roxy Music Album andy butler K D Patten wrote: > hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?. > > Kyle Dean Patten > > P.O. Box 22 > > Johnston, IA 50131 > > > > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > " Níl gach uile fhánaí caillte" *//- Gaelic - "/Not all who wander are > lost/"* > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 15:20:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1BD643BE91; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM MacOS X Eudora Version 6.2J rev3.3 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:19:55 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: OT: new release "String Theories" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:20:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi LD, Sorry for off topic. this is my new release information. Compilation based on string instruments as primary sound source. Limited edition of 400 handnumbered copies in cardboard sleeve with insert. 1. Relapxych.0 : Feedback Rain (Edit) (14:19) Sound sources used: Guiter and various recordings of water. 2. Sunao Inami : The Shortest Tree (12:00) Equipments used: Jerry Jones Longhorn Bass6,Ableton Live and Mac Book Pro. 3. Randy Greif : ...And The Sky Became The Sea (17:24) For this track I decided to deconstruct a portion of a Spanish flamenco song as the sole source for my contribution entitled. 4. If, Bwana / Evan Leed : Screaming (16:23) Al Margolis - guitar, Evan Leed - Electronics etc. 5. Pendro : Golar Wash (10:50) Instruments: Oud,Semi-Acoustic Bowed Guitar,Violin. Processing: Audiomulch,Cool Edit Label: Metamorph Records Catalog#: META001 Format: CD, Compilation, Limited Edition Country: UK Released: Oct 2008 Genre: Electronic, Rock Style: Abstract, Drone, Experimental http://www.myspace.com/metamorphrecords http://shop.cavestudio.org/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/682 Regards Sunao Inami From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 15:50:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 002613BE97; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=WiEp4tN+Oz2QKj0bGr5Rsvatxd0E11wTu0Di/NLNhA7W9PfXGFDMP2j4RQZdF0zeLRNJVeMPC1sXJcTKg8nq4zZpnv8l9/Lv31c2rDMDuc1Oh/QK5s5+rssPztKbShqNAPN3X157PIWuObPGuLpCxrE9xVIYH6qPbzGEWCWN4z4=; X-YMail-OSG: A51EC.wVM1ll94z9vcIQl2OYtj6hkiSx3i0_gzxSw6DGKWsXpQZLGVr8 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.11 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <81694.93389.qm@web50304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_ryX6B.A.BDE.P1JAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:50:39 +0000 (UTC) I've got No Pussyfooting and 801 Live (that sort of counts as an Eno record= ing, they do a bunch of his tunes and he sings) on vinyl...you guys are mak= ing me want to go to my storage space and get the vinyl and turntable!=0A= =0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Tony K =0A= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 = 7:14:38 AM=0ASubject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question=0A=0AI'm rather= fond of Discrete Music and Another Green World. But, Music=0Afor Airports= is up there too. Very hard to pick just one. The Fripp=0Aand Eno stuff i= s good. I have The Essential Fripp and Eno (basically=0ANo Pussyfooting a= nd Evening Star.) and enjoy that too.=0A=0A=0AOn Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:53 = AM, George Ludwig wrote:=0A> In my opinion as a mu= sician (rather than as a looper), Another Green World,=0A> Taking Tiger Mou= ntain By Strategy, and Here Come The Warm Jets are an=0A> essential triptyc= h. I haven't reviewed his catalog since becoming seriously=0A> interested i= n looping, so FWIW.=0A>=0A> ________________________________=0A> From: K D = Patten =0A> To: Loopers Delight =0A> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:08:15 AM=0A> Subject:= Lurker surfacing with OT Question=0A>=0A> hey guys ..in your opinion ...wh= ats a must have Brian Eno recording?.=0A>=0A> Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 = Johnston, IA 50131=0A> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=0A> http://www.my= space.com/kyledeanpatten=0A> " N=EDl gach uile fh=E1na=ED caillte" - Gaeli= c - "Not all who wander are lost"=0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A-- =0A-=3D=3D-=3D-=3D-=0AT= ony=0A=0A=0A From abusalam2@centrum.cz Thu Oct 23 17:41:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 313 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:41:01 UTC Received: from mail1007.centrum.cz (mail1007.centrum.cz [90.183.38.137]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB313BE80 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:41:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail1007.centrum.cz id S738250266AbYJWRfj (ORCPT ); Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:35:39 +0200 Received: from 41.203.227.74 (X-Forwarded-For: 41.203.227.74) by mail1007.centrum.cz (Centrum Mail) with HTTP Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:35:39 +0200 From: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <200810231935.9227@centrum.cz> Subject: Urgent and Confidential Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_12345_-------=_45A11B48.A804188" To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) --_12345_-------=_45A11B48.A804188 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit   FROM THE OFFICE OF MR ABU SALAM THE CHIEF AUDITOR INCHARGE AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK (ADB) OUAGADOUGOU BURKINA FASO WEST AFRICA N°+22675145555.   Dear Partner I presumed that all is well with you and your family. Please let this do not be a surprise proposal to you because i got your contact information from the international directory in few weeks ago before i decided to contact you on this magnitude and lucrative transaction for our future survival in life. Moreover, i have laid all the solemn trust in you before i decided to disclose this successful & confidential transaction to you.   I, MR ABU SALAM THE CHIEF AUDITOR INCHARGE OF FOREIGN REMITTANCE UNIT of our bank and i have had the intent to contact you over this financial transaction worth the sum of NINETEEN MILLION, THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS ($19,300,000.00 ) for our success. This is an abandoned sum that belongs to one of our bank foreign customers who died along with his entire family through plane crash disaster since few years ago. Meanwhile i was very fortune to came across the deceased file when i was arranging the old and abandoned customers files in other to sign and submit to the entire bank management for an official re-documentation and audit of the year against 2008.   Be informed clearly that it was stated in our banking rules and regulations which was signed lawfully that if such fund remains unclaimed till the period of 5 years started from the date when the beneficiary died, the money will be transferred into the treasury as an unclaimed fund. As an honor and advantage bestowed to our foreign customers base on the rules guiding our bank, it was stated obviously that if you are not a Burkina Faso citizen, you have the absolute authority to claim the fund hence you are a foreigner despite your differences from the country of origin of the deceased. 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Besides you should not entertain any fear because i am sure of the success as an insider in the bank ok. Please reply with the assurance, include your private telephone and fax numbers necessary for facilitate an easy communication in this transaction. As soon as you reply, so that i will let you know the next step to follow in order to finalize this transaction immediately. 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FROM THE OFFICE OF MR ABU SALAM
THE CHIEF AUDITOR INCHARGE
AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK (ADB)
OUAGADOUGOU BURKINA FASO
WEST AFRICA N°+22675145555.
 
Dear Partner
I presumed that all is well with you and your family. Please let this do not be a surprise proposal to you because i got your contact information from the international directory in few weeks ago before i decided to contact you on this magnitude and lucrative transaction for our future survival in life. Moreover, i have laid all the solemn trust in you before i decided to disclose this successful & confidential transaction to you.
 
I, MR ABU SALAM THE CHIEF AUDITOR INCHARGE OF FOREIGN REMITTANCE UNIT of our bank and i have had the intent to contact you over this financial transaction worth the sum of NINETEEN MILLION, THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS ($19,300,000.00 ) for our success. This is an abandoned sum that belongs to one of our bank foreign customers who died along with his entire family through plane crash disaster since few years ago. Meanwhile i was very fortune to came across the deceased file when i was arranging the old and abandoned customers files in other to sign and submit to the entire bank management for an official re-documentation and audit of the year against 2008.
 
Be informed clearly that it was stated in our banking rules and regulations which was signed lawfully that if such fund remains unclaimed till the period of 5 years started from the date when the beneficiary died, the money will be transferred into the treasury as an unclaimed fund. As an honor and advantage bestowed to our foreign customers base on the rules guiding our bank, it was stated obviously that if you are not a Burkina Faso citizen, you have the absolute authority to claim the fund hence you are a foreigner despite your differences from the country of origin of the deceased. So the request of you as a foreigner is necessary to apply for the claim and transfer of the fund smoothly into your reliable bank account as the NEXT OF KIN OR EXTENDED RELATIVE to the deceased.
 
 On the transfer of this fund into your account, { 39% }being ( US$7,527,000.00) will be your share in respect of the account provision and your assistance rendered during the transfer of the fund into your bank account,{ 52% } being (US$10,036,000.00) will be my share being the coordinator of the transaction while the rest { 9% } being (US$1,737,000.00) will be shared to the respectable Organizations Centers such as Charity Organization, Motherless Babies homes, and helpless disabled people in the World.
 
If you are really sure of your trustworthy, accountability and confidentiality on his transaction, contact me and agree that you will not change your mind to cheat or disappoint me when the fund have getting into your account. Besides you should not entertain any fear because i am sure of the success as an insider in the bank ok. Please reply with the assurance, include your private telephone and fax numbers necessary for facilitate an easy communication in this transaction. As soon as you reply, so that i will let you know the next step to follow in order to finalize this transaction immediately. Call me on +2267514555 OR Reply through abusalam1@voila.fr
 
(FILL THIS FORM BELLOW PLEASE AND RESEND IT TO ME)
1) Your Full Name:-..................................................
2) Your Age:-............................................................
3) Marital Status:-....................................................
4) Your Cell Phone Number:-.....................................
5) Your Fax Number:-...............................................
6) Your Country:-......................................................
7) Your Occupation:-.................................................
9) Your Religion:-......................................................
10) Your Private E-mail Adress:.................................
 
Yours sincerely
MR ABU SALAM
 
 
--_12345_-------=_45A11B48.A804188-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 17:58:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ACCA3BE8D; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aMGYj7yQMBy3zLaWId1L+9sR+8yAZMbXjsfq4AByqMQ=; b=dha1N+bgbj4oPvT5oIwNjnABeijmGmjMKhEgLyalG3xaQsDEsUgNg2oWGDGmXJSmQg p/+88BNq8wN60F8CCydTKHScJaIvCiubsBTfLoVJaj5Ms4R35t5ctIuEmfHrr3Xheyf8 0RsKPe+qkpVcpSiC2jG1iwrcnSedyVk/F6ujI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=a7GUKFFgbxK8ZSz3Iph9PXfEtJLxQu1EFt9dHz6Zvulskj65JTrzQJtC4pXbfZ8lU0 7lO0b/EeFrGc/wadLdTBOKUUG7Kct/ny2vTUGhhilqU4Mr+XZcyXuMphcgDztqYIL15c P4QKdCeknUUavpUThKQuBxRQ9Hdyj7qU/SanU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810231058q3ad19cacpff6523fc9e5f8cf8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:58:52 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question In-Reply-To: <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:58:56 +0000 (UTC) > and don't forget the first Roxy Music Album > > andy butler Avalon is great IMO! Not particularly "Enoesque" but damn good! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 18:29:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDEF33BE95; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=xjkAeqIUuvhWWF4u6f9wB9WBwIwFVdbNS4KCgrwOnLk=; b=uGx2Vm4GepCbyP6oePiGbEFv9ETfRrmgoT+S6Td+y/jKjmJ/pemhAnlgtCwLL++KFp jjlQRv2CxuX28y9/ehu6W5I62EvbBbiyAJ9AIN9xkq1LHGAE6nsJlkVFCqCxNN4W/LkD tbrPbfl6cx5XtptW9dnsBd5q9O0lX24O83c6Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=erAzKAhBrRsixtde53iMolSijqhkiRmcCRxLDNRBWmnLvTxjPrlt+yc2Foj18lXhG0 Sptz4zjSdm4+EKxF8e0S0xTMtBvJ4GINHVIrK23Wboyi9Fw+ZAlbQR7uR3xe/L9xhfjB IhuXws+YEBAvnceWC8OMdCASrD2BnXWsyPVR8= Message-ID: <339c30110810231129n69ed2df4m423ee4b3388ce852@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:29:16 +0900 From: "michael noble" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: exciting sound design tools In-Reply-To: <012e01c93504$572566a0$0400000a@ERDEMOLD> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49905_10986578.1224786557005" References: <012e01c93504$572566a0$0400000a@ERDEMOLD> Resent-Message-ID: <1GMuW.A.IPH._JMAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:29:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49905_10986578.1224786557005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Erdem, If you can get your hands on a Korg OASYS PCI card you get the best of hard and soft sound processing. It'll require a dedicated PC to run but you'll get clean filters, 40s feedback delays, nice resonators and some deep modulation possibilities, plus then some. It's no Kyma, but for the price they pack a punch (when you can find one). cheers Michael On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hi to all, > > i am upgrading my studio. i have hundreds of plugins, softsynths, but i > would like to buy some very unique and weird sounding hardware equipment. i > am very interested in sherman filterbank at the moment. do you know any > other units, pedals that have a very unique character that can be used in a > professional studio? > > thanks and best. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm > > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > -- networking practice for sound environments :: http://nowhere.iamnobody.net ------=_Part_49905_10986578.1224786557005 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Erdem,

If you can get your hands on a Korg OASYS PCI card you get the best of hard and soft sound processing.  It'll require a dedicated PC to run but you'll get clean filters, 40s feedback delays, nice resonators and some deep modulation possibilities, plus then some.  It's no Kyma, but for the price they pack a punch (when you can find one).

cheers

Michael

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu <erdemhel@tnn.net> wrote:
hi to all,
 
i am upgrading my studio. i have hundreds of plugins, softsynths, but i would like to buy some very unique and weird sounding hardware equipment. i am very interested in sherman filterbank at the moment. do you know any other units, pedals that have a very unique character that can be used in a professional studio?
 
thanks and best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8



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------=_Part_49905_10986578.1224786557005-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 18:42:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 063D33BE90; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081023182920.948753BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--480473750 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:42:25 -0700 References: <20081023182920.948753BEA0@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:42:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--480473750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi- depends on what you're looking for, as he has different phases of his career. i don't particularly care for his more "pop / rock" side, but i have most of his discography, so my recommendations would be: - ambient 4 (on land): for me, this is easily his best album, ever. - ambient 2 (the plateaux of mirror) w/ harold budd: i listen to this record probably every day - the pearl (also with harold budd): i listen to this record probably every other day ;) - thursday afternoon - neroli - the shutov assembly - spinner (with jah wobble): this is more jazzy, i guess but still pretty great. i would consider those all pretty much "must have" records from eno. looking at that list, i guess i really like his more piano-directed works...so, if you're into piano, that will definitely work for you. - tyler / battery cage - www.batterycage.com =================== On Oct 23, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > From: K D Patten > Date: October 23, 2008 4:08:15 AM PDT > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: Lurker surfacing with OT Question > > > hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?. --Apple-Mail-1--480473750 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi-

depends = on what you're looking for, as he has different phases of his career. i = don't particularly care for his more "pop / rock" side, but i have most = of his discography, so my recommendations would = be:

- ambient 4 (on land): for me, this is = easily his best album, ever.
- ambient 2 (the plateaux of = mirror) w/ harold budd: i listen to this record probably every = day
- the pearl (also with harold budd): i listen to this = record probably every other day ;)
- thursday = afternoon
- neroli
- the shutov assembly
- = spinner (with jah wobble): this is more jazzy, i guess but still pretty = great.

i would consider those all pretty much = "must have" records from eno. looking at that list, i guess i really = like his more piano-directed works...so, if you're into piano, that will = definitely work for you.

- tyler / battery = cage
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From: K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com>
Date: October 23, 2008 = 4:08:15 AM PDT
To: Loopers Delight = <Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com>
Subject: Lurker = surfacing with OT Question


=
hey guys ..in your opinion = ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?.

= --Apple-Mail-1--480473750-- From hassan_cotu161@yahoo.in Thu Oct 23 20:08:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 386 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:08:09 UTC Received: from n2a.bullet.in.yahoo.com (n2a.bullet.in.yahoo.com [202.43.219.19]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 227843BE7B for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:08:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [202.86.4.170] by n2.bullet.in.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2008 20:01:39 -0000 Received: from [203.104.18.55] by t1.bullet.in.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2008 20:01:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp107.mail.in2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Oct 2008 20:01:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 529510.92865.bm@omp107.mail.in2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 21838 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Oct 2008 20:01:38 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.in; h=Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=4feZsg9bd/sUImR3Z9Jpstk3z1bPRVCSyGJi1ASCJrTnz8lDoGqSvyzmx9IFOvA2jHpM3SWLJazka8gUoy1sWoveov/o39uSWI0YMwYYzDJPBJmHHIdiawt2oOU5LisnmWx/olidZR/umnmBUc7ZHw7CM/zHbt9KOYklSqz3hAE= ; Received: from [41.203.230.153] by web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:31:38 IST Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:31:38 +0530 (IST) From: =?utf-8?q?Hassan=20Cotu?= Reply-To: hassan_cotu020@yahoo.fr Subject: je vous proposse de transaction de fond ci ca vous entresse svp reponn To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1727900554-1224792098=:20407" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <507573.20407.qm@web95108.mail.in2.yahoo.com> --0-1727900554-1224792098=:20407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a new email address!You can now email me at: hassan_cotu161@yahoo.in - Je suis le Directeur en charge de l'audit Banque section de compte etrangee --0-1727900554-1224792098=:20407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I have a new email address!
You can now email me at: hassan_cotu161@yahoo.in



- Je suis le Directeur en charge de l'audit Banque section de compte etrangee
--0-1727900554-1224792098=:20407-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 21:02:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 084083BE82; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1191 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:02:28 UTC X-Eon-Dm: sj1-dm04 X-Eon-Sig: AQMLXdxJAOG6ytudnQIAAAAB,9d24cab31ae9f9a808359ec574710fde Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--473266947 From: Richard Roberts Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:42:32 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <_c8YlB.A.O-C.kZOAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:02:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--473266947 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I would suggest Music For Airports, but I also have to mention a newer Eno CD entitled Another Day On Earth. It's a return to his vocal oriented music but with a 21st century twist. Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC." - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. --Apple-Mail-2--473266947 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would suggest Music For = Airports, but I also have to mention a newer Eno CD entitled Another Day = On Earth. It's a return to his vocal oriented music but with a 21st = century twist.

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no longer the same after hearing certain = sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds = organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

- Kurt=A0Vonnegut, = Jr.=A0




 =

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hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must = have=A0Brian=A0Eno=A0recording?.

Kyle Dean = Patten
P.O. Box 22
Johnston, = IA=A0 50131
=A0
http://www.myspace.com/kyle= deanpatten

On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:53 = AM, George Ludwig wrote:

In my opinion as a musician (rather than as a = looper), Another Green World, Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and = Here Come The Warm Jets are an essential triptych. I haven't reviewed = his catalog since becoming seriously interested in looping, so = FWIW.
"Another Green World" was = the one I got on CD to replace/supplement my vinyl copies of = above.

Eno's = influence is all over as a producer and musical contributor. Andy Butler = mentioned My Life in Bush of Ghosts (Eno/Byrne), and that's a favorite = too.=A0


Scott = Duncan
myspace.com/scottduncanvideo



= --Apple-Mail-1--493086177-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 23 23:49:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEDDF3BE85; Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20081023194950.EMVRL.380739.root@mp19> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:49:50 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: MUSIC UP ON REVERB NATION In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Hey gang, I just thought I mention that I put up a whole bunch of old and new music up on Reverb Nation for live streaming. I just thought I'd open myself up for pubilc ridicule a bit more. Go to: About 99% of it is looping music. Some of the material dates back to the '80s and includes some of my very first recordings. About half of it was recorded live in various places around Southern California. So . . . if you're lookin' for a helpless old geezer to make fun of . . . now's your chance. Hours and hours of sadistic entertainment. Cheers, Cheetos and Cheese Whiz . . . Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 01:31:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BBD33BE8A; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=W6FeCPYJkXsmRJBd+Q1kLlZNQsYAe11f1gCX1grct04=; b=XINxfousYXHRrs/6IzuwBUAm6cyBln44zYQbsLmWqGMLq3c6rn1aW7X5GSJJHGKh2W JullfUOLCHBOxtjTDpZrBwoIR1Pno5BqaZHNiMSUxlKk0+MdIs/ewkb63PZ/dWW7SS+1 oMxbmxNCzLnrpRGNIZ06O5kyoKKZjmB66or4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YDoSlpmoAIDiUQX70rkFhwI3z1mrxguEwNqSUDV/7UHgUa2FCcVE58EXDDGFMUod7J /pHq7dOpwAP7ijg1fnQc5JB58gys296kiOMjXYF87ZTR7Cba1xT8lQ5esDctzlcpp8X9 z6X2b3jheBjrrInQJlD84f5HWXa5D6mHxypmE= Message-ID: <333287c30810231831y7f26dec8y6f41b3a9e0932964@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:31:06 -0700 From: "Nevyn Nowhere" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: t h e H u m a n C a n v a s P r o j e c t **PICTURES** from an electronic music/performance art show MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_50485_1386119.1224811866720" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:31:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_50485_1386119.1224811866720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For 6 pages of pictures of up to 17 women painted white with video projected on them from multiple sources... ....aka pictures of "the Human Canvas Project". An experiment in electronic music, visual media, the human body and how it moves. Video coming soon. Visit happyhumans.org and click on "human canvas project" or, for the lazy cats in the house (like I am with my reverse DNS ing!) http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php Nevyn Nowhere http://www.happyhumans.org Sad Music for Happy Humans ------=_Part_50485_1386119.1224811866720 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For 6 pages of pictures of up to 17 women painted white with video projected on them from multiple sources...

....aka pictures of "the Human Canvas Project".

An experiment in electronic music, visual media, the human body and how it moves.

Video coming soon.

Visit happyhumans.org and click on "human canvas project" or, for the lazy cats in the house (like I am with my reverse DNS ing!)
http://thecommonwoods.com/nowhere/canvas.php

Nevyn Nowhere
http://www.happyhumans.org
Sad Music for Happy Humans
------=_Part_50485_1386119.1224811866720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 02:25:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20B3E3BE8D; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:25:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=BjOu5b6cSoKJu4UWNaDlnJz0vdvSGh0j2RLE+xwKCAk/Qb+ddTCmDQQ3maRRKtVe; h=Received:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:References:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-Id: <7F8F870A-0C79-4ECF-B022-BE1FBD3A5A6A@earthlink.net> From: sheila olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--452699707 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:25:19 -0700 References: <256003.45538.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd484cd08afca9578d08e3ba96a99e3ee4bb7510c956a98deb90350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.134.123 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:25:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--452699707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You might want to check out Fourth World Vol.1 / Possible Musics, Eno's collaboration with Jon Hassell joe On Oct 23, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Scott Duncan wrote: > >> hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?. >> >> Kyle Dean Patten >> P.O. Box 22 >> Johnston, IA 50131 >> >> http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten >> http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten > > > On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:53 AM, George Ludwig wrote: > >> In my opinion as a musician (rather than as a looper), Another >> Green World, Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and Here Come The >> Warm Jets are an essential triptych. I haven't reviewed his catalog >> since becoming seriously interested in looping, so FWIW. >> > > I'd agree w/ George's picks. After Eno left the band Roxy Music, his > 1st solo album was Here come the Warm Jets; 2nd was Taking Tiger > Mt..... > > "Another Green World" was the one I got on CD to replace/supplement > my vinyl copies of above. > > Eno's influence is all over as a producer and musical contributor. > Andy Butler mentioned My Life in Bush of Ghosts (Eno/Byrne), and > that's a favorite too. > > > > Scott Duncan > myspace.com/scottduncanvideo > > > --Apple-Mail-4--452699707 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must = have Brian Eno recording?.

Kyle Dean = Patten
P.O. Box 22
Johnston, = IA  50131
 
http://www.myspace.com/kyle= deanpatten

On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:53 = AM, George Ludwig wrote:

In my opinion as a musician (rather than as a = looper), Another Green World, Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and = Here Come The Warm Jets are an essential triptych. I haven't reviewed = his catalog since becoming seriously interested in looping, so = FWIW.
"Another Green World" was = the one I got on CD to replace/supplement my vinyl copies of = above.

Eno's = influence is all over as a producer and musical contributor. Andy Butler = mentioned My Life in Bush of Ghosts (Eno/Byrne), and that's a favorite = too. 


Scott = Duncan
myspace.com/scottduncanvideo


=


= --Apple-Mail-4--452699707-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 02:44:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C36EA3BE90; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224816288; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=8kg8Ipy8DV34MU84ffg+hQI2DTw=; b=qMTw6GzALu1JGMrM9W7JxgXkKjVgSUnHrHvqQOuiPdhCC67aSoZBwKITGouQuEFL 9Q5swJRIGXrVjB18aXHR8xmgWkq7kZxZfttrJG+HPMQxTTS2ZPgB+zws/3KojXJU; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=deKM-WJZAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=C6E12Ic8unMhd2SOyC0A:9 a=MHeoEK_j8WcdJD7rslgA:7 a=Mu4p5P_-pwspHl8nJzDDBeMXqLcA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=GL-Re4spl-cA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810231058q3ad19cacpff6523fc9e5f8cf8@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:44:46 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 02:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Wow, yes I just ran across Avalon and listened to it for the first time in years. It really sent me back in time to a magical place....beautiful sounds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zJdbpzfJMs w/ Eno http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USJq2RwnlyU w/Fripp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJe-1OhssUk Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace "Imagination is more important than knowledge." "Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world." Albert Einstein ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question >> and don't forget the first Roxy Music Album >> >> andy butler > > Avalon is great IMO! Not particularly "Enoesque" but damn good! > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1741 - Release Date: 10/23/2008 7:54 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 03:16:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2F083BE8D; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=orZLH7vkz9F5zXqoTJRDvwpO6kAjXzmgD22k8/vrgZc=; b=JNdl/sd59lruszg4xCLYSMxTV9AZYB0/HIyDoDMChY9hM590odKJ6kI3hAO5oP9yIR Hh2JqSFThOUIVEZ5hjZ0eLeCylkoajz25aQaaQvXP5WEQNJtimTnuys9wrtQ2qWbvU+I GbUk+bwEonBM9lvItEXe3JbYk3zn6CJ/B5ZkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=psT2NjWfHEKp/I83gyBTfGkFLZWP6bDgNP64u2Pz7hPyUudJ4dBUqe1H2yCKTRm2C3 rGOM9jGRSXN0NwAvoCLC6GWzRCX/Of+AryQGuCgdTSfMkU9rSXXYd4m3MhQaA2U2m7kA C/znzi9XQdEngf+sfyfyRcpKcvZSxB/oO5cYY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:15:58 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question In-Reply-To: <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_51596_29634679.1224818158838" References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810231058q3ad19cacpff6523fc9e5f8cf8@mail.gmail.com> <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:16:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_51596_29634679.1224818158838 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sure, but Eno had nothing to do with that album. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Wow, yes I just ran across Avalon and listened to it for the first time in > years. It really sent me back in time to a magical place....beautiful > sounds. > > ------=_Part_51596_29634679.1224818158838 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sure, but Eno had nothing to do with that album.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Wow, yes I just ran across Avalon and listened to it for the first time in years. It really sent me back in time to a magical place....beautiful sounds.


------=_Part_51596_29634679.1224818158838-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 03:30:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E077A3BE8A; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224819042; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=bVH0nOKu5McHbKoyd92FoStGPew=; b=SSMlhW5Epr0GnRl6BgGR1JOM2FPtGkPDrrZs7mWg4q34eXYgqbHFm78qZd7vKIW8 +F5E6lAR8Lo7kVhjiUovFQqF/Xmh86e++l2rx+Tt9NgDCfK8agEO0f/cAFEmeYMO; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=WMuG1iq6-_xX_cXaL5cA:9 a=SmPIus19XMp_K7hvp0UA:7 a=tc9QvmHluAQlEsjWFIRtxXQKnBcA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=jgFIvOWqR8MA:10 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=FyNCSucA3pxX0uv0r7UA:9 a=HE449PwtKRo76G52yK0A:7 a=pnkZMG2K0ZIxb-0bAZgfkweG4T8A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <007d01c93588$e420f7c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810231058q3ad19cacpff6523fc9e5f8cf8@mail.gmail.com> <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:30:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01C93567.59808BB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:30:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C93567.59808BB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Of course your right Travis, I drifted off into a time warp there. I = didn't really get into Eno until he got with Fripp. I think Here Come the Warm Jets possibly.=20 Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Travis Hartnett=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:15 PM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Sure, but Eno had nothing to do with that album. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote: Wow, yes I just ran across Avalon and listened to it for the first = time in years. It really sent me back in time to a magical = place....beautiful sounds. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1741 - Release Date: = 10/23/2008 7:54 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C93567.59808BB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Of course your right Travis, I drifted = off into a=20 time warp there. I didn't really get into Eno until he got with=20 Fripp.
I think Here Come the Warm Jets = possibly.=20
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, = 2008 11:15=20 PM
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Sure, but Eno had nothing to do with that = album.

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:44 PM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
Wow,=20 yes I just ran across Avalon and listened to it for the first time = in years.=20 It really sent me back in time to a magical place....beautiful = sounds.



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------=_NextPart_000_0075_01C93567.59808BB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 03:33:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22FEF3BE8D; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810231058q3ad19cacpff6523fc9e5f8cf8@mail.gmail.com> <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 20:33:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 03:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Eno has done a lot of different things. He's as important as a producer (and sometimes collaborator) as he is a solo artist. He's also gone through a lot of phases. I still rather like the very poppy "Before and After Science" and his ambient masterpiece "Music for Airports". I also adore "Evening Star" with Fripp, "Power Spot" with Jon Hassell, and "The Pearl" with Michael Brook, If you want a lovely long-form listening experience there is also "Thursday Afternoon" clocking in at 70 mimutes plus. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 04:14:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A7373BE82; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224821653; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=FVbFtztcqBirjjpdSYO6Kly0nI8=; b=jNo5hdSDUsGw9BiFmMs0BCNOHL6BgSKjLa2QQmD6AnCquzPaVKEy3marFD1ABINo aChrjcZoyW9xRU1Ca/kMGtd7P2D+gxbm/DM7FbE9ApwFxz6TK7PeVKxdCgC7B8Sv; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=c9eTbBAgAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=nqk_MdFg8G9Jj6awStgA:9 a=nCzRpcGUX9vL1ZvfkRoA:7 a=nAZsBC8Ga01w5uw93owAkHR5FX8A:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000e01c9358e$f87b0610$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <20081023194950.EMVRL.380739.root@mp19> Subject: Re: MUSIC UP ON REVERB NATION Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:14:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Hey Ted, as one "helpless old geezer" to another you still rock man! Thanks for the tunes. Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace "Never make fun of old people, if your lucky you might get to be one." Me ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" To: Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: MUSIC UP ON REVERB NATION > Hey gang, > > I just thought I mention that I put up a whole bunch of old and new music > up on Reverb Nation for live streaming. > > I just thought I'd open myself up for pubilc ridicule a bit more. > > Go to: > > About 99% of it is looping music. > > Some of the material dates back to the '80s and includes some of my very > first recordings. > > About half of it was recorded live in various places around Southern > California. > > So . . . if you're lookin' for a helpless old geezer to make fun of . . . > now's your chance. > > Hours and hours of sadistic entertainment. > > Cheers, Cheetos and Cheese Whiz . . . > > Ted > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1741 - Release Date: 10/23/2008 7:54 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 04:55:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2DE13BE89; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:55:44 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 04:55:53 +0000 (UTC) At 3:59 PM +0100 10/23/08, andy butler wrote: >Eno with David Byrne >My Life in the Bush of Ghosts I'm going to second Andy's recommendation of "Bush of Ghosts". That album is just brilliant. It's also relevant to looping since most of the songs shun the typical A/B/A/B/break/B/out structure. They use a continuous single flow (with other parts layered on and subtracted from on top of that). It's not unlike what we're used to with looping. Similarly, I'd almost consider the Talking Heads "Remain in Light" as an Eno album. I'd credit him as a 5th member of the group at that time period. So if that album counts, here's a big +1 for it. And I'll always have a soft spot for "Another Green World". Some of Eno's pop albums are just plain fun. -- m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 05:01:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 037773BE8D; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=53PVtYyBL2D8fNXYbitjFQm0Yf9xz1vVFy8Rrx4qhI45y2cKwg2BmF3h2G7zmj6xG7bMryOrmoMDbSklYcWpAhCwrqXDyi7IrOnNFW8KFcLg1iX+LXD+N3K1gObfHprkL2xSWg+ze5z734e2vmxlGKU1p7K/J/S1MqL28NlGCA0=; X-YMail-OSG: Ace8HcgVM1mLvTOo0fA5HIlw45OLHGOUX3r6E0GrtpU9ebUgTYhbbanghvHTXQvLM_d9HEFb4mvVdV46VEsPqepXuno42ivEsdaws1xMDnRcrTe.I1ECgU1VkiAvMrgGxRRCi1LK1dWsmLnNYN9h1EdXTACCZrxfC78exFawxdceLYRs6hRzEDwiwcc- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <57525.30104.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Apologies in advance, but I just have to laugh at the reference of Another Green World as a "pop" album. At the time it was released, it was so far off the mainstream that it could never have been construed as pop. Compared to what was on the radio then or now, it is so far from pop, that, well...I LOL'd. :) ----- Original Message ---- From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:55:44 PM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question At 3:59 PM +0100 10/23/08, andy butler wrote: >Eno with David Byrne >My Life in the Bush of Ghosts I'm going to second Andy's recommendation of "Bush of Ghosts". That album is just brilliant. It's also relevant to looping since most of the songs shun the typical A/B/A/B/break/B/out structure. They use a continuous single flow (with other parts layered on and subtracted from on top of that). It's not unlike what we're used to with looping. Similarly, I'd almost consider the Talking Heads "Remain in Light" as an Eno album. I'd credit him as a 5th member of the group at that time period. So if that album counts, here's a big +1 for it. And I'll always have a soft spot for "Another Green World". Some of Eno's pop albums are just plain fun. -- m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 06:49:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 273C53BE8F; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=tsVSbSBWgPUisqdTCM3cmWtrJbtPz8IIMjnELOfvvCo=; b=tFdqZVD0xAOt/MAUy5SqkwUYZm/gY2tbetYbdpRq9CVFXKqZd0F5cGy4iZ53UmKZUb lfeeG/bhTRM8j+Gw0Pz+1QnbrkSlAPqAv7y9L640fzFp5F/xsUf8Ab5RV3V8Cf1n4mfH PIV6qexWdppIwrvQXKmdrCxLQ+VR2SWZwLM4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=DaLpcpJr9sFblZUS0cvzMEA/rzjEhoKx0A/gnS7/GsBZ0lDhzBohcd+zKn+gRYJynj VE/aXBrgPBnYaT7eIHFVJ2s63D0ax6wpi8Az9ZiOGWo3A/bx0sp3UKdPT2as5NOW5jsa W+qDSgEr7oLWDFVBiNh+dU3y1V45X6YN+k+98= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:49:16 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Firewire audio interface recommendations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_58269_31329374.1224830956319" X-Google-Sender-Auth: c4fca7590bc4972f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:49:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_58269_31329374.1224830956319 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone, I have ascertained that I need to get a firewire audio interface, but I haven't found any knowledgeable local music stores nearby, and I want it mainly for looping and loop-related things so I want to hear your opinions. I'm looking for a firewire (400) audio interface, preferably in the $250-350 range. It must have at least one set of stereo ins and two sets of stereo outs (so i can send my sound to comp>interface>kaoss pad>interface>comp and then switch ableton live to send it out speakers when its ready). I assume it needs a headphone jack too so I can listen to the full mix before switching new tracks on for output to the speakers. If possible without drastically increasing the price, 2 ins/3 outs would be very nice, in case i want to hook one more device up later to process things and send them back to the comp. Also, how do i connect a 1/4th inch connection to two rca style stereo ones? I'm not entirely sure if theres any downside to that or if I just need some kind of cable. I noticed most of the audio interfaces use that connection but my kaoss pad uses red/white stereo cable and my speakers and imac use 1/8th inch headphone size. I am willing to spend more if there's a significant difference in audio quality, so that little or not quality is lost going from comp to kaoss back to comp, so an audio loop can be sent through that device series multiple times without significant degredation if necessary. Full coreaudio compatibillity is also a must, and I was informed that there should be no latency difference, so I'm assuming I won't need to worry about that. Sorry for my complete lack of experience with this! Any/all suggestions are welcome and very appreciated. Thanks, Quine ------=_Part_58269_31329374.1224830956319 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi everyone,

I have ascertained that I need to get a firewire audio interface, but I haven't found any knowledgeable local music stores nearby, and I want it mainly for looping and loop-related things so I want to hear your opinions.

I'm looking for a firewire (400) audio interface, preferably in the $250-350 range. It must have at least one set of stereo ins and two sets of stereo outs (so i can send my sound to comp>interface>kaoss pad>interface>comp and then switch ableton live to send it out speakers when its ready). I assume it needs a headphone jack too so I can listen to the full mix before switching new tracks on for output to the speakers. If possible without drastically increasing the price, 2 ins/3 outs would be very nice, in case i want to hook one more device up later to process things and send them back to the comp.

Also, how do i connect a 1/4th inch connection to two rca style stereo ones? I'm not entirely sure if theres any downside to that or if I just need some kind of cable. I noticed most of the audio interfaces use that connection but my kaoss pad uses red/white stereo cable and my speakers and imac use 1/8th inch headphone size.

I am willing to spend more if there's a significant difference in audio quality, so that little or not quality is lost going from comp to kaoss back to comp, so an audio loop can be sent through that device series multiple times without significant degredation if necessary. Full coreaudio compatibillity is also a must, and I was informed that there should be no latency difference, so I'm assuming I won't need to worry about that.

Sorry for my complete lack of experience with this! Any/all suggestions are welcome and very appreciated.


Thanks,
Quine
------=_Part_58269_31329374.1224830956319-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 08:24:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB3E13BE84; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 96631541/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.145.206/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.145.206 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AjQBAKEiAUlPRpHO/2dsb2JhbAAIjmWyfoNQgzk X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,476,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="96631541" Message-ID: <490186CD.3050802@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:26:53 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question-ENo&Roxy References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810231058q3ad19cacpff6523fc9e5f8cf8@mail.gmail.com> <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:24:41 +0000 (UTC) http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeEBMJt8vs for Eno's synths and processing of the guitar thro' VCS3, and of course Manzanera's shades. >>> and don't forget the first Roxy Music Album >>> >>> andy butler >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 10:12:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 332503BE8E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 572 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:12:04 UTC Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:02:31 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re:Firewire audio interface recommendations MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "luigimeloni74\@libero\.it" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.3 (R1) (B3pl25) X-SenderIP: 151.49.237.80 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi. One interface I've used without problems both on Mac (OSX) and on PC = (windows xp sp1/sp2) is the M-Audio 410. it has 4 in and 8 out, and as it= is in phase-out I think you could find it for less than what you wish to= pay. The drivers work well, both on mac and on pc, and the quality is no= t bad (good for live shows, maybe a bit less for studio recording). I'm c= urrently using it in pair with a m-audio profire lightbridge (the 32 chan= nels only adat I/O version)with external converters, and am satisfied wit= h its performance. If you need something more in quality, you could find some used motu (the= 828 is in phase out, too and the ultra-lite works well, too) or an rme f= ireface 400. As far as the rca-pin to jack conversion you can go without problems with= a converter and a good quality cable. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 10:19:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC9983BE8E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=44irxwqXNaUdK60kGlaisjyrm2YfjBn+4UgRWC+n5XQ=; b=Y75QfbW0VAkOb8LHgaxMud/igVuh7iBzZjH+DsJLBOJ9UZ6y+ZFJgEOyHOgqxVtLwi OPPd0kRi4sEXDZPJV1aRfw8DNyNoIbdKgES/BTTnzXJe8PeL0K3Q7y0QVVcIR0/hXKI8 vbUZXiAbb5rAQDk877ZJVykXR2I6FHu2rFHtU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Q9r99tnaTuzZHdn/B8NKt0RDMdGVpCLh+kXf1a38jZrgI6muROEzyJncb9dcjFvF/g q1/NI8I3pfI4JUfhcEsRNWXtbWU8szApZTQpksORltPKHK1D/IdPGy/JcbH9n8M52iPP 4kj6l2767wW5Q7wINw+igETKfitdv40k2tPaI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:19:28 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1e72b7a5ea61ad92 Resent-Message-ID: <9gUFCC.A.OyD.xEaAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:19:29 +0000 (UTC) This is probably above your budget, but I can't recommend it highly enough: http://www.mhlabs.com/metric_halo/ I bought mine years ago, really stretching my budget at the time, but I'm glad I did. They make the point on the website that these boxes are tremendously future-proof, and I would agree with that. Don't underestimate how useful a few more inputs and outputs can be. E.g. I use a couple of spare outputs to drive a headphone amp when playing with other musicians, so the drummer can sync to me. Also it can be useful if you need to drive more than just one PA - e.g. I often find myself in places where it's useful to set up 4 outputs - two mono outputs to two stage monitors, and a stereo pair (carrying a different mix) to the house PA. cheers, os. 2008/10/24 Nick : > Hi everyone, > > I have ascertained that I need to get a firewire audio interface, but I > haven't found any knowledgeable local music stores nearby, and I want it > mainly for looping and loop-related things so I want to hear your opinions. > > I'm looking for a firewire (400) audio interface, preferably in the $250-350 > range. It must have at least one set of stereo ins and two sets of stereo > outs (so i can send my sound to comp>interface>kaoss pad>interface>comp and > then switch ableton live to send it out speakers when its ready). I assume > it needs a headphone jack too so I can listen to the full mix before > switching new tracks on for output to the speakers. If possible without > drastically increasing the price, 2 ins/3 outs would be very nice, in case i > want to hook one more device up later to process things and send them back > to the comp. > > Also, how do i connect a 1/4th inch connection to two rca style stereo ones? > I'm not entirely sure if theres any downside to that or if I just need some > kind of cable. I noticed most of the audio interfaces use that connection > but my kaoss pad uses red/white stereo cable and my speakers and imac use > 1/8th inch headphone size. > > I am willing to spend more if there's a significant difference in audio > quality, so that little or not quality is lost going from comp to kaoss back > to comp, so an audio loop can be sent through that device series multiple > times without significant degredation if necessary. Full coreaudio > compatibillity is also a must, and I was informed that there should be no > latency difference, so I'm assuming I won't need to worry about that. > > Sorry for my complete lack of experience with this! Any/all suggestions are > welcome and very appreciated. > > > Thanks, > Quine > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 10:55:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3DD93BE8E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:55:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4901AA9C.8000004@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:59:40 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:55:58 +0000 (UTC) luigimeloni74@libero.it wrote: > Hi. One interface I've used without problems both on Mac (OSX) and on PC (windows xp sp1/sp2) is the M-Audio 410. it has 4 in and 8 out, and as it is in phase-out I think you could find it for less than what you wish to pay. The drivers work well, both on mac and on pc, and the quality is not bad (good for live shows, maybe a bit less for studio recording). I'm currently using it in pair with a m-audio profire lightbridge (the 32 channels only adat I/O version)with external converters, and am satisfied with its performance. > If you need something more in quality, you could find some used motu (the 828 is in phase out, too and the ultra-lite works well, too) or an rme fireface 400. > As far as the rca-pin to jack conversion you can go without problems with a converter and a good quality cable. I'd say get an RME Fireface 400, it's a decent step up from M-Audio. If money is an issue, they can sometimes be had at decent prices on evilbay, since the Fireface 800 came out. RME is known to have a very stable wordclock (for sync'ing the clock between various gear), which removes the need for an external clock if you later expand with more studio gear. RME is also known to have good quality drivers for both Mac and XP, and have good customer service. No, I don't have a Fireface, mine is an older Multiface ;) @luigimeloni: Have you had any issues with your Lightbridge? I remember talks about (driver?) stability problems on the rec.audio.pro newsgroup last year, but haven't followed up on it since then. It's a pretty nifty bridge for that low money.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 11:02:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B07413BE8E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=akJus4Ez6WMz9BiSHM2XehGLy/WD+9q0XfkVg0mcNzA=; b=I4U2NmZKvFqqouSlBrqAUOoXkpcl6FSOxqUafgE+6bbOtUWfjj/vlwI0qks04Fyg9T hvP/9KCFS15cH6ECryUYldLiPJU3fWrskTubZXJx5S8nblEOK8S55k3rHz5+ilUW8qZh r59P8I0YJoQUytevyGwdCh6r4yDDc2Lux5GHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=pnAPoYTNgvXVJWTxIIspKYYGtuptscr1h71B61Y1WsTyCTN/DWZB6Wlhsq6pBM7M5d q+27Saw2W4H4A+gh+ocjR1ZBSA3x5oepXW4IJVlNDn1f7tgY0GBeEp9krKSpBmmImWX4 UHWv9wMIFu2IU56wAaw/dvmHMOzOd8aUYJOZw= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:02:50 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations In-Reply-To: <4901AA9C.8000004@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4028_10808102.1224846170510" References: <4901AA9C.8000004@post.cybercity.dk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:02:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4028_10808102.1224846170510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > > > > I'd say get an RME Fireface 400, it's a decent step up from M-Audio. > If money is an issue, they can sometimes be had at decent prices on > evilbay, since the Fireface 800 came out. > I think the FF400 is newer than the FF800. The FF800 came first. Also ECHO would be an option here... Bye. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_4028_10808102.1224846170510 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
 

I'd say get an RME Fireface 400, it's a decent step up from M-Audio.
If money is an issue, they can sometimes be had at decent prices on evilbay, since the Fireface 800 came out.
 I think the FF400 is newer than the FF800. The FF800 came first.
 Also ECHO would be an option here...
 
Bye.


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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_4028_10808102.1224846170510-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 11:28:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E56C43BE8F; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:28:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: <70n2LB.A.rqF.YFbAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:28:24 +0000 (UTC) I remember grabbing "Bush of Ghosts" the moment I read about it in the NY Times way back when. It took a little getting used to, but you knew it was worth it while trying to grok it... and foreshadowed works to come by others, using the sample-and-hold-to-repeat-or-stutter motif. I think the only part of the film "Wall Street" I liked was the use of "Mea Culpa", the second track, with the "slimy politician on radio" voice... but of course at this point we had not as yet heard the works later included on the Ultimate Fripp and Eno collection, "Healthy Colours", done sometime round 1974: "Happy people wear heal-heal-healthy colours"... I was able to get the copy with "Q'uran" on CD before a bunch of whiners foreshadowed the protest about those Mohammed cartoons, by complaining that a recording of someone singing part of the Koran somehow violated religious law - even though it was taken from an LP itself... Lately I've been mulling over Roxy Music's "Virginia Plain", which sounds like several of Eno's songs in the Warm Jets/Tiger Mountain sets. Dunno. Whatcha think? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mech" To: Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:55 AM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question > At 3:59 PM +0100 10/23/08, andy butler wrote: >>Eno with David Byrne >>My Life in the Bush of Ghosts > > I'm going to second Andy's recommendation of "Bush of Ghosts". That album > is just brilliant. It's also relevant to looping since most of the songs > shun the typical A/B/A/B/break/B/out structure. They use a continuous > single flow (with other parts layered on and subtracted from on top of > that). It's not unlike what we're used to with looping. > > Similarly, I'd almost consider the Talking Heads "Remain in Light" as an > Eno album. I'd credit him as a 5th member of the group at that time > period. So if that album counts, here's a big +1 for it. > > And I'll always have a soft spot for "Another Green World". Some of Eno's > pop albums are just plain fun. > > -- m. > -- > _____ > "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 13:03:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1D6A3BE81; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:03:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hON0jGwegHpjl-LDx-AA:9 a=d1xgDf9O5bZHnE_i-ZXW2pEH8pMA:4 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 a=uwbQC8BpMv8pY8wzW1cA:9 a=E6ayqtPZ3BF4E78H_OR3szecTagA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:03:17 +0000 (UTC) From: Christophe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <1140212483.309071224853397142.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16793_1824573257.1224853397140" X-Originating-IP: [170.63.96.108] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Win)/5.0.9_GA_2533.RHEL5_64) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:03:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16793_1824573257.1224853397140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think anyone has mentioned Before and After Science , which has some great material. Also 801 Live , which among other things has an amazing cover of Tomorrow Never Knows. ------=_Part_16793_1824573257.1224853397140 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I don't think anyone has mentioned Before and After Science, which has some great material.  Also 801 Live, which among other things has an amazing cover of Tomorrow Never Knows.
------=_Part_16793_1824573257.1224853397140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 14:12:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFC853BE8F; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=CflauJ6g8rGmvr4AvnFz2PZSKJ1L5OB/xJ9+TMuErcc=; b=VmQZ+EJPY0Zro9fvyHeJXcOJc9ElawC6Gw3cUa9/Ji+yt6e9imeTzy69MYY+kVVBBd BsuvD93VJm4MlSRRae2Kep8AABmhn1RsJC/L6GIBdula81/KhjMtG1fR8if8Uv4V/uKZ kx2Imm+3Jm+FSDe2fOIiAe+qzXCIF3T9gGaTo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=vQ7TEt7mDaPPdEEkywPhJWuyLzs4oGFBlkjZiqhNXbxZ0htI9e6dPRHzIVpKxrl/ko Dne6byKXs029xewayydV02eb+CM3wwCACJkGjOyo2JX9N7wxR4z51b3P6Hx89mhJnFQu 7tbiUiqIjUs26/46r78iyEU6hSAEKBeG6NllI= Message-ID: <8c82d1660810240712u6f7cf9c3m1c07dfc439abd001@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 10:12:29 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FS: My other EDP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_59842_11767334.1224857549966" Resent-Message-ID: <3oHTHC.A.FDC.RfdAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:12:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_59842_11767334.1224857549966 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey gang. My other Echoplex is up for sale on the ole' eBay. I was using this one in stereo with the previous unit... which means, the footcontroller is unused, in a box that has never been opened. Item number 320313291258 http://cgi.ebay.com/GIBSON-ECHOPLEX-DIGITAL-PRO-PLUS-w-PEDAL-MANUAL_W0QQitemZ320313291258QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item320313291258&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1418%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Thanks! ------=_Part_59842_11767334.1224857549966 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hey gang. My other Echoplex is up for sale on the ole' eBay. I was using this one in stereo with the previous unit... which means, the footcontroller is unused, in a box that has never been opened. Item number    320313291258



Thanks!
------=_Part_59842_11767334.1224857549966-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 14:19:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B49F03BE8E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <000e01c9358e$f87b0610$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <20081023194950.EMVRL.380739.root@mp19> <000e01c9358e$f87b0610$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7f439e30f699ad9d9f1d26c364a41a9a@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: MUSIC UP ON REVERB NATION Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 07:19:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Jeff, Thanks. I'm now listening to and enjoying yours. Best regards, Ted On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Hey Ted, as one "helpless old geezer" to another you still rock man! > Thanks for the tunes. > > Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 15:23:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1533BE8F; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:23:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20081024152258575.8C76F7000085@mwinf2357.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1140212483.309071224853397142.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-20--406042393 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:22:57 +0200 References: <1140212483.309071224853397142.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3OJqIB.A.ZrE.WheAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:23:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-20--406042393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sooner or later we'll name all of his recordings, so just start buying... No one has mentioned his solo on Editions of You. On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Christophe wrote: > I don't think anyone has mentioned Before and After Science, which > has some great material. Also 801 Live, which among other things > has an amazing cover of Tomorrow Never Knows. --Apple-Mail-20--406042393 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sooner or later we'll name all = of his recordings, so just start buying...

No one has = mentioned his solo on Editions of You.

On Oct = 24, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Christophe wrote:

I don't think anyone has = mentioned Before and After Science, which = has some great material.  Also 801 Live, which among other things has an amazing cover = of Tomorrow Never = Knows.

= --Apple-Mail-20--406042393-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 15:35:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6118A3BE8E; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=B/GCrBo30iQPsJVA+qtpTfxGLXVAAl8u80heiPepLZI=; b=G1NSN4j5RVPkZ70bkJFbz+ONQXHCGAptizAdvvEjMXfK68QshvUt82uAMekQTHAjXX GgCp0d10azuiNDG+ovoFm3F4mw9vxDcLAEcAkwdVzbpKKWhz3R3+0T0wbLRWuEeTEElC VlylO/tWcQNctxpxpI6UBOGgCgAIB19qcwNpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tFGh1ABTTM9Jw6/HZ7IDJ2XvdtWqxlL2kTVRoI33tKD2kpoTj5tmkYNShCKYjABPNg F+qzaPZUZc1BG3cngdznbTTt7zgwFLtuiw40T1VXKQ3ck6DjLjnT6BqOUTZWqCXirf4B HNpEPAdMCsX031zseN8LFfvY4L4bFpOrP0EBk= Message-ID: <4e3afe9d0810240835o630a3fd0hf64b496188dc7398@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:35:05 -0700 From: "RP Collier" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7645_16120201.1224862506050" References: <707811.90006.qm@web39206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4900916F.4000701@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810231058q3ad19cacpff6523fc9e5f8cf8@mail.gmail.com> <001601c93582$7b092fb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 15:35:08 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7645_16120201.1224862506050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:33 PM, tEd (R) KiLLiAn wrote: > > > If you want a lovely long-form listening experience there is also "Thursday > Afternoon" clocking in at 70 mimutes plus. > Thursday Afternoon has an associated video from 1984 -- Seven video paintings of Christine Alicino.Beautiful and meditative, it can be found on the dvd: Brian Eno/14 Video Paintings. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j set http://www.youtube.com/tynego ------=_Part_7645_16120201.1224862506050 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:33 PM, tEd ® KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:


If you want a lovely long-form listening experience there is also "Thursday Afternoon" clocking in at 70 mimutes plus.
 
Thursday Afternoon has an associated video from 1984 -- Seven video paintings of Christine Alicino.
Beautiful and meditative, it can be found on the dvd:
Brian Eno/14 Video Paintings.

regards

BobC



------=_Part_7645_16120201.1224862506050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 16:10:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 579D33BE95; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224864639; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=n+KocAzbKB4hSTv/VumcBjwyLPQ=; b=nsCy/8igsus0iISmq1bmd5vM0dDeRVbhlf32JV+KzzJe92WnudAyl/iPFom6c3l0 xKnzm1vbeoEEC3i3bZa8Qctz/zyPD//3al0UYVuwXRv2HxmLz8cqQV7smZNoi3JH; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=84MCPiApONdC1nfQuY4A:9 a=tozXUU44TpKTQ820X5oA:7 a=pY94wfxcd_8k_A1RNWwHKI8ijsEA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=PKjY-mI1yN0A:10 a=fxae-x8yuyAf0cgB_wwA:9 a=5Hua6mLd1gGtV0oqwI0A:7 a=9RvEIWADXpjHjTPajuoPr_stySgA:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001501c935f3$4bc81a60$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <1140212483.309071224853397142.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:12:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C935D1.C2DADC90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C935D1.C2DADC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i love this...hehe, asking for a guide to an Eno release around here is = like trying to get a sip of water out of a fire hydrant! I love this = group. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: doc rossi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Sooner or later we'll name all of his recordings, so just start = buying... No one has mentioned his solo on Editions of You. On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Christophe wrote: I don't think anyone has mentioned Before and After Science, which = has some great material. Also 801 Live, which among other things has an = amazing cover of Tomorrow Never Knows. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1743 - Release Date: = 10/24/2008 8:33 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C935D1.C2DADC90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i love this...hehe, asking for a guide = to an Eno=20 release around here is like trying to get a sip of water out of a fire = hydrant!=20 I love this group.
 
Jeff
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Sooner or later we'll name all of his recordings, so = just start=20 buying...

No one has mentioned his solo on Editions of You.

On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Christophe wrote:
I don't=20 think anyone has mentioned Before and After Science, which = has some=20 great material.  Also 801 Live, which among other = things has an=20 amazing cover of Tomorrow Never=20 Knows.


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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C935D1.C2DADC90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 16:21:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 797E73BEB6; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224865268; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=XBSe9izcQ/CERd/L5olIQDnCSug=; b=Te9wiEo90IrkBgwZForLOe6zuQ7PWQcR7wrj5d3Lkz8VnKRtk3Ktpe7Q3NnRajTo EtvoA97YP5TxQqYvGsBJquAaehJPOILRcOI/js3+gRmoCs8r/XfZ1X+lBL7XXcof; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=A-nlQ1RJAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=kgOJ7mZdFPw9U74L77wA:9 a=LKjIBS0_yjo8zO9oSAEA:7 a=9rW63KkauZmm3qd_5WS6ndjFslUA:4 a=hM5H0qCC1cEA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=DJ13TLnM9lwA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=6RfcZjLIAAAA:8 a=7DjhlUXxAAAA:8 a=1F6TNoPd8l04wY5LYtAA:9 a=SNqxwzkegH11MTY4a5AA:7 a=mPXovOWlrnUJDvwJe30sdLfLmjQA:4 a=NzyHr4_54BoA:10 a=bZ7j5JgeYLcA:10 a=xbm0ZMOoO10A:10 a=436l1COftNoA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001001c935f4$c397d610$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <256003.45538.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:22:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C935D3.3BE62580" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C935D3.3BE62580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey I forgot about this: http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2007/01/brian_eno_doing_generative_mus.php Excerpt:=20 Generativity plays a role in many fields now, with gaming being no = exception. Also built around this notion and probably one of the = currently most eagerly awaited games is Will Wright's Spore, for which = Brian Eno, as he revealed, will be making the soundtrack! He was asked = to do it, because the designers wanted sound that is just a procedural = as the game itself, instead of the loops which are tied to certain = stages or areas which we are used to experience in games. He went on to = demonstrate a simple software called "The Shuffler" which he uses to = create fragments for the soundtrack of Spore and which even with a = simple combination of samples possibly would never create the same = composition twice within a lifetime. (Don't miss the Eno/Wright-seminar = at the Long Now Foundation, their podcast is a gold mine anyway) I am thinking about checking the game out but I am afraid of my = addictive nature....... Jeff http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scott Duncan=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 11:12 AM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question hey guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno = recording?. Kyle Dean Patten P.O. Box 22 Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten=20 http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten =20 On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:53 AM, George Ludwig wrote: In my opinion as a musician (rather than as a looper), Another Green = World, Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and Here Come The Warm Jets = are an essential triptych. I haven't reviewed his catalog since becoming = seriously interested in looping, so FWIW. I'd agree w/ George's picks. After Eno left the band Roxy Music, his = 1st solo album was Here come the Warm Jets; 2nd was Taking Tiger Mt..... = "Another Green World" was the one I got on CD to replace/supplement my = vinyl copies of above. Eno's influence is all over as a producer and musical contributor. = Andy Butler mentioned My Life in Bush of Ghosts (Eno/Byrne), and that's = a favorite too.=20 Scott Duncan myspace.com/scottduncanvideo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1741 - Release Date: = 10/23/2008 7:54 AM ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C935D3.3BE62580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey I forgot about this:
http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2007/01/brian_eno_doing_generative_mus= .php
 
Excerpt:
Generativity plays a role in many fields now, with gaming being no=20 exception. Also built around this notion and probably one of the = currently most=20 eagerly awaited games is Will=20 Wright's Spore, for which = Brian Eno, as=20 he revealed, will be making the soundtrack! He was asked to do it, = because the=20 designers wanted sound that is just a procedural as the game itself, = instead of=20 the loops which are tied to certain stages or areas which we are used to = experience in games. He went on to demonstrate a simple software called = "The=20 Shuffler" which he uses to create fragments for the soundtrack of Spore = and=20 which even with a simple combination of samples possibly would never = create the=20 same composition twice within a lifetime. (Don't miss the = Eno/Wright-seminar at=20 the Long Now = Foundation,=20 their podcast is a gold mine anyway)
 
I am thinking about checking the game = out but I am=20 afraid of my addictive nature.......
 
 
Jeff
http://www.myspace.com/= loopsinphasespace
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, = 2008 11:12=20 AM
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On Oct 23, 2008, at 9:53 AM, George Ludwig wrote:
In my opinion as a musician (rather than = as a=20 looper), Another Green World, Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy, and = Here=20 Come The Warm Jets are an essential triptych. I haven't reviewed his = catalog=20 since becoming seriously interested in looping, so FWIW.


I'd agree w/ George's picks. After Eno left the band Roxy Music, = his 1st=20 solo album was Here come the Warm Jets; 2nd was Taking Tiger=20 Mt..... 

"Another Green World" was the one I got on CD to = replace/supplement my=20 vinyl copies of above.

Eno's influence is all over as a producer and musical = contributor. Andy=20 Butler mentioned My Life in Bush of Ghosts (Eno/Byrne), and that's a = favorite=20 too. 



Scott Duncan
myspace.com/scottduncanvideo


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------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C935D3.3BE62580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 16:24:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 792793BECF; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:24:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=WXqTS5RbogAYfYEbLWeh5SHRPYxInJLEIVLjIJ939sk=; b=whoaF8DjkFhoxDERbqizqBi9ej6cNrmzif1KOWAhMkoY74oqGk5ERV833iV9vuz5zf Eec99Yjp2evTTlUYKNlmUW8vdCd4F0CZHTn/e4OYCVPvy2Adp0mzNysDgpPghYuv7bXN 6gyW1ftV0ynJBcigm1rODy8ZcH4ZEJsaUh6eE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=vAXP8gBAAh9ZG3QBllg9bxbCPSPso5UFJqM1Zh9MrRB5K+Cpi0Dkqs9Ll8PWNCJiZa J7XVBmyjdCeMstCwVBmtit98LTiXvmQDlITXkNB21FLinifsWiwWySeJJv2Jvr88bn92 c309CQtHtVgpG05+9McOWtYyonwCtOumruwJY= Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b0810240924i569560ddx23435a68b30cd398@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:24:21 -0400 From: "Loaf citious" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:Firewire audio interface recommendations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11438_10635896.1224865461178" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:24:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11438_10635896.1224865461178 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been looking at a new interface myself since I've been having bad grounding issues my current Edirol UA25. Does anyone know if Firewire has less issues w/ grounding than USB (as a general rule)? I think this one might meet the requirements of the original post: http://www.madmanaudio.com/presonus-firebox-p-1877.html Does anyone use this interface? Endorsements? Recommend it ? I was also having problems w/ the MIDI sysex to and from my FCB w/ the edirol. Turns out on the FCB is a bit picky which MIDI interface it uses. No wonder I was having problems. tx, Andy G ------=_Part_11438_10635896.1224865461178 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been looking at a new interface myself since I've been having bad grounding issues my current Edirol UA25. 

Does anyone know if Firewire has less issues w/ grounding than USB (as a general rule)?

I think this one might meet the requirements of the original post:
http://www.madmanaudio.com/presonus-firebox-p-1877.html

Does anyone use this interface? Endorsements? Recommend it ?

I was also having problems w/ the MIDI sysex to and from my FCB w/ the edirol.  Turns out on the FCB is a bit picky which MIDI interface it uses. No wonder I was having problems.

tx,
Andy G

------=_Part_11438_10635896.1224865461178-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 16:43:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86B563BE8F; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <1140212483.309071224853397142.JavaMail.root@sz0034a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <001501c935f3$4bc81a60$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:43:02 +0100 X-Unsent: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C935FF.F6805D30" X-Vipre-Scanned: 00DFB2A900092700DFB3F6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:43:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C935FF.F6805D30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A bit like the "Who wants to drink from the fire hose??" from "VHF"? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff Duke=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 5:12 PM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question i love this...hehe, asking for a guide to an Eno release around here = is like trying to get a sip of water out of a fire hydrant! I love this = group. Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: doc rossi=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Sooner or later we'll name all of his recordings, so just start = buying...=20 No one has mentioned his solo on Editions of You. On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Christophe wrote: I don't think anyone has mentioned Before and After Science, which = has some great material. Also 801 Live, which among other things has an = amazing cover of Tomorrow Never Knows. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1743 - Release Date: = 10/24/2008 8:33 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C935FF.F6805D30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A bit like the "Who wants to drink from the fire = hose??" from=20 "VHF"?
----- Original Message -----
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i love this...hehe, asking for a = guide to an Eno=20 release around here is like trying to get a sip of water out of a fire = hydrant! I love this group.
 
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 doc rossi=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, October 24, = 2008 11:22=20 AM
Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing = with OT=20 Question

Sooner or later we'll name all of his recordings, so = just=20 start buying...=20

No one has mentioned his solo on Editions of You.

On Oct 24, 2008, at 3:03 PM, Christophe wrote:
I=20 don't think anyone has mentioned Before and After Science, = which has some=20 great material.  Also 801 Live, which among other = things has=20 an amazing cover of Tomorrow Never=20 Knows.


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------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C935FF.F6805D30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 16:45:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F6103BE8D; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:45:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:44:53 EDT Subject: O.T. McCOY TYNER "GUITARS" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c8e.2bc2346a.36335585_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <6zR1TB.A.6_G.ZufAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:45:13 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c8e.2bc2346a.36335585_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en sometimes things just fall together in a nice way: 60th. birthday, gift=20 certificate from my wonderful daugther, review of "GUITARS" in guitar player= =20 mag.....i seldom if ever buy cds so i thought what the heck, how can you mis= s with:=20 mccoy tyner (piano), ron carter (bass), jack dejohnette (drums) and bela=20 fleck, bill frisell, marc ribot, john scofield and derek trucks on=20 guitars.....sweet!.....i didn't read the cover so i thought it was a 2 cd se= t.....put in the=20 second cd and my player would not read it, FREAK OUT, it took all my energy=20= to=20 leave my casa to get this cd and now here it is half missing, it's not easy=20 being an agoraphobic/xenopohbic.....:).....anyway, the second cd was a dvd o= f=20 the sessions, outstanding.....to watch the ease with which these MONSTERS=20 interacted was a joy, plus i don't have=20 to go out again to boot!.....THANK GOD.....if you ever see me in public, you= =20 know i don't want to be there.....what i did find interesting about the musi= c=20 was the fact that the "vocabulary" of jazz guitar seems limited IMHO.....don= 't=20 get me wrong, i love jazz guitar, always have, always will but there wasn't=20= a=20 BITRMAN to be heard and i do love the SKANK (the beeps and boops).....bottom= =20 line: great straight ahead jazz, wonderful playing, fantastic to see it=20 happening, worth every penny ($16.99).....i'm sure there are a few guitar pl= ayers on=20 this list (and piano, drums and bass) so give it a listen and look see, i=20 think you will enjoy.....time to go make sure my doors are locked!.....micha= el "when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a=20 butterfly"..... kenneth patchen new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites,=20 no registration required and great graphics =E2=80=93 check it out!=20 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir=3D http://www.games.com?ncid=3Demlcntusgame00000001) --part1_c8e.2bc2346a.36335585_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en sometimes things just fall together in=20= a nice way: 60th. birthday, gift certificate from my wonderful daugther, rev= iew of "GUITARS" in guitar player mag.....i seldom if ever buy cds so i thou= ght what the heck, how can you miss with: mccoy tyner (piano), ron carter (b= ass), jack dejohnette (drums) and bela fleck, bill frisell, marc ribot, john= scofield and derek trucks on guitars.....sweet!.....i didn't read the cover= so i thought it was a 2 cd set.....put in the second cd and my player would= not read it, FREAK OUT, it took all my energy to leave my casa to get this=20= cd and now here it is half missing, it's not easy being an agoraphobic/xenop= ohbic.....:).....anyway, the second cd was a dvd of the sessions, outstandin= g.....to watch the ease with which these MONSTERS interacted was a joy, plus= i don't have
to go out again to boot!.....THANK GOD.....if you ever see me in public, you= know i don't want to be there.....what i did find interesting about the mus= ic was the fact that the "vocabulary" of jazz guitar seems limited IMHO.....= don't get me wrong, i love jazz guitar, always have, always will but there w= asn't a BITRMAN to be heard and i do love the SKANK (the beeps and boops)...= ..bottom line: great straight ahead jazz, wonderful playing, fantastic to se= e it happening, worth every penny ($16.99).....i'm sure there are a few guit= ar players on this list (and piano, drums and bass) so give it a listen and=20= look see, i think you will enjoy.....time to go make sure my doors are locke= d!.....michael

"when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a butterfly"...= .. kenneth patchen

new groovy tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
www.ct-collective.com





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Play online games for FREE at Games.= com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics =E2= =80=93 check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x120= 0689022/aol?redir=3D http://www.games.com?ncid=3Demlcntusgame00000001) --part1_c8e.2bc2346a.36335585_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 18:01:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE3433BE89; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=mkUjiIyrNSxPAQUhOz34H7PO8McCNVL9BochyGUjnyE=; b=rOexkthZh3y+jSUXl4GQwdDoITetvKxLVaVq8TZzFxytn5IqiCWaqcDoE73v+RgmbN PruubrrIzxD2xIZK7/sUDIrYKKt9XPVc3kqfTGGiIBLlAiiOst8ZjAzw/q/LP7Lh7/Tf 61OC2S5SAVNf3WY9CPgCca+JpfFGaDsMBMp3s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=XwuDwAZjn6FcotQPyKZ6VPOpeUZqps1M2SsM4cZ/QyaWz/KQM2r5NPcMplckUlNxB1 zwNeOg8NQ3dkmCkliDasNnWG9GrRWQe2TZ1BVKyucbVUPQWrVz8ZoA+thUxaUJhLQMim 8JD3+IrEFMigwbmWex3HxTlhA5djLxO2Pdv8g= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810241101m441f36bdt321dad9ceeb008d2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:01:52 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MUSIC UP ON REVERB NATION In-Reply-To: <20081023194950.EMVRL.380739.root@mp19> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32126_33190782.1224871312144" References: <20081023194950.EMVRL.380739.root@mp19> Resent-Message-ID: <8cXGQB.A.vEB.T2gAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 18:01:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32126_33190782.1224871312144 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ted I've been listening this morning and really love this, very dark and thick guitar tone just like some of what I heard at Y2K (sorry for your add'l grimlens but you undervalued your set, you did a lot of cool stuff before electric voodoo hit). Like the ReverbNation mix a lot, some really intense stuff in there plus some of the harmonic sort of bounce stuff is really interesting. Good muse! Great to finally have met you and look fwd to your piece in ReUse . Jim On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:49 PM, tEd (R) kiLLiAn wrote: > Hey gang, > > I just thought I mention that I put up a whole bunch of old and new music > up on Reverb Nation for live streaming. > > I just thought I'd open myself up for pubilc ridicule a bit more. > > Go to: > > About 99% of it is looping music. > > Some of the material dates back to the '80s and includes some of my very > first recordings. > > About half of it was recorded live in various places around Southern > California. > > So . . . if you're lookin' for a helpless old geezer to make fun of . . . > now's your chance. > > Hours and hours of sadistic entertainment. > > Cheers, Cheetos and Cheese Whiz . . . > > Ted > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_32126_33190782.1224871312144 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Ted I've been listening this morning and really love this, very dark and thick guitar tone just like some of what I heard at Y2K (sorry for your add'l grimlens but you undervalued your set, you did a lot of cool stuff before electric voodoo hit).  Like the ReverbNation mix a lot, some really intense stuff in there plus some of the harmonic sort of bounce stuff is really interesting.  Good muse!  Great to finally have met you and look fwd to your piece in ReUse.
 
Jim

On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:49 PM, tEd ® kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Hey gang,

I just thought I mention that I put up a whole bunch of old and new music up on Reverb Nation for live streaming.

I just thought I'd open myself up for pubilc ridicule a bit more.

Go to: <http://www.reverbnation.com/tedkillian>

About 99% of it is looping music.

Some of the material dates back to the '80s and includes some of my very first recordings.

About half of it was recorded live in various places around Southern California.

So . . . if you're lookin' for a helpless old geezer to make fun of . . . now's your chance.

Hours and hours of sadistic entertainment.

Cheers, Cheetos and Cheese Whiz . . .

Ted




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_32126_33190782.1224871312144-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 19:00:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D810F3BE82; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20081024150002.U9RGE.416216.root@mp17> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:00:02 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MUSIC UP ON REVERB NATION Cc: Jim Goodin In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60810241101m441f36bdt321dad9ceeb008d2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <3vvpX.A.E9C.8shAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Jim, Thanks. You are very, VERY kind. I am hoping I feel a little bit better about my "micro" set when I hear som= ething of the recording that Rick apparently made. Although I attended Y2K7, I took the year off from performing there last ye= ar (the schedule of all those back-to-back 30-minute sets being pretty brut= ally gruelling and frustrating . . . especially back in the days when I had= a even huger setup in Y2K3 to Y2K6). I was looking at it as some sort of "return in triumph" . . . only to be h= orrifically disappointed. What a silly notion to have anyway. I've had minor "gremlins" before but nothing quite so debilitating as this = time out. Usually I manage to salvage something of my dignity. I now know exactly why all my favorite sounds disappeared at the start (a s= tupid faulty cable). What went wrong with the mixer after that is still a mystery . . . op amp? = . . . power supply? . . . a lot of possibilities. My gear is still packed in the garage until I have time to delve into it ag= ain. I really like what you and Shawn were doing too BTW. What a highly creative combo you guys are. Thanks for the "Night Blooming Cereus" CD . . . it's already in my iTunes a= t work and at home. Some of the tracks have already cycled through my "random play" this mornin= g. Lovely, emotionally resonant, and sophisticated stuff . . . truly. Glad to make you acquaintance too, so it's totally mutual. Best regards, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you = didn=E2=80=99t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. S= ail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore= . Dream. Discover. - Mark Twain http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- Jim Goodin wrote:=20 > Ted I've been listening this morning and really love this, very dark and > thick guitar tone just like some of what I heard at Y2K (sorry for your > add'l grimlens but you undervalued your set, you did a lot of cool stuff > before electric voodoo hit). Like the ReverbNation mix a lot, some reall= y > intense stuff in there plus some of the harmonic sort of bounce stuff is > really interesting. Good muse! Great to finally have met you and look f= wd > to your piece in ReUse . >=20 > Jim >=20 > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:49 PM, tEd (R) kiLLiAn = wrote: >=20 > > Hey gang, > > > > I just thought I mention that I put up a whole bunch of old and new mus= ic > > up on Reverb Nation for live streaming. > > > > I just thought I'd open myself up for pubilc ridicule a bit more. > > > > Go to: > > > > About 99% of it is looping music. > > > > Some of the material dates back to the '80s and includes some of my ver= y > > first recordings. > > > > About half of it was recorded live in various places around Southern > > California. > > > > So . . . if you're lookin' for a helpless old geezer to make fun of . .= . > > now's your chance. > > > > Hours and hours of sadistic entertainment. > > > > Cheers, Cheetos and Cheese Whiz . . . > > > > Ted > > > > >=20 >=20 > --=20 > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guita= rs > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 19:34:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C3173BE84; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48DCA0E6043FAC19@> (added by postmaster@cp-out8.libero.it) From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: RE: Firewire audio interface recommendations Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:34:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 In-Reply-To: <4901AA9C.8000004@post.cybercity.dk> Thread-Index: Ack1xxq7QuhAFdoOSrOZe/S6M+CRuQAR7jag Resent-Message-ID: <40ZQRD.A.8sD.ANiAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Hi, At first I bought the lightbridge since I already had a digital mixer with adat I/O and some preamps/converters. The first bunch of drivers had some problems, but now it works well under XP and OSX. At least, I'm using it under logic audio, sonar and cubase sx and it works well. On the pc I have a texas instrument FW chipset. With the Via chipset I've had some problems with almost all the FW devices I've used (Tascam, Motu etc.) Luigi @luigimeloni: Have you had any issues with your Lightbridge? I remember talks about (driver?) stability problems on the rec.audio.pro newsgroup last year, but haven't followed up on it since then. It's a pretty nifty bridge for that low money.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 19:45:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46BAD3BE90; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20081024154558.LOE4T.418264.root@mp18> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:45:58 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: O.T. McCOY TYNER "GUITARS" Cc: Nemoguitt@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:45:59 +0000 (UTC) Mikey, Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I just snagged one up at CD Universe. BTW, I missed seeing you again this year in Santa Cruz. What's a Klobie fan to do? tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you = didn=E2=80=99t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. S= ail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore= . Dream. Discover. - Mark Twain http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:=20 > sometimes things just fall together in a nice way: 60th. birthday, gift= =20 > certificate from my wonderful daugther, review of "GUITARS" in guitar pla= yer=20 > mag.....i seldom if ever buy cds so i thought what the heck, how can you = miss with:=20 > mccoy tyner (piano), ron carter (bass), jack dejohnette (drums) and bela= =20 > fleck, bill frisell, marc ribot, john scofield and derek trucks on=20 > guitars.....sweet!.....i didn't read the cover so i thought it was a 2 cd= set.....put in the=20 > second cd and my player would not read it, FREAK OUT, it took all my ener= gy to=20 > leave my casa to get this cd and now here it is half missing, it's not ea= sy=20 > being an agoraphobic/xenopohbic.....:).....anyway, the second cd was a dv= d of=20 > the sessions, outstanding.....to watch the ease with which these MONSTERS= =20 > interacted was a joy, plus i don't have=20 > to go out again to boot!.....THANK GOD.....if you ever see me in public, = you=20 > know i don't want to be there.....what i did find interesting about the m= usic=20 > was the fact that the "vocabulary" of jazz guitar seems limited IMHO.....= don't=20 > get me wrong, i love jazz guitar, always have, always will but there wasn= 't a=20 > BITRMAN to be heard and i do love the SKANK (the beeps and boops).....bot= tom=20 > line: great straight ahead jazz, wonderful playing, fantastic to see it= =20 > happening, worth every penny ($16.99).....i'm sure there are a few guitar= players on=20 > this list (and piano, drums and bass) so give it a listen and look see, i= =20 > think you will enjoy.....time to go make sure my doors are locked!.....mi= chael >=20 > "when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a=20 > butterfly"..... kenneth patchen >=20 > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ************** > Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites,=20 > no registration required and great graphics =E2=80=93 check it out!=20 > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir= =3D > http://www.games.com?ncid=3Demlcntusgame00000001) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 20:07:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA1893BE7F; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:07:47 EDT Subject: Re: O.T. McCOY TYNER "GUITARS" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c02.48a09a62.36338513_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:07:51 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c02.48a09a62.36338513_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en "when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a=20 butterfly"..... kenneth patchen new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites,=20 no registration required and great graphics =E2=80=93 check it out!=20 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir=3D http://www.games.com?ncid=3Demlcntusgame00000001) --part1_c02.48a09a62.36338513_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en



"when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a butterfly"...= .. kenneth patchen

new groovy tunes at:
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
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tedzo.....come to pittsburgh!.....:).....murtha was incorrect when he sai= d we are all old, slow to learn  redneck racists here.....and we don't= cut backward b's into peoples faces.....yikes.....what bad press we got ove= r the past few days.....i also missed all of the cali kidz this year, glad t= o hear it was a great fest.....michael

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Play online games for FREE at Games.= com! All of your favorites, no registration required and great graphics =E2= =80=93 check it out! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x120= 0689022/aol?redir=3D http://www.games.com?ncid=3Demlcntusgame00000001) --part1_d20.3dfa8cc7.363386da_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 20:39:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BC0E3BE82; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=r7sOpWb948pxYxjRp1Rk3cs/Hg6Q+IvzBbwwjWasYxU=; b=wPQl0wt3ZIg/sfq01+wCRvXQ4wli9Z8ejZnUTHTQBfdPGa9gpOXRc7PYd+kEk9nsdF Bg4P1LQMM3WhVwMFORE3T2xd8JfWnIQWsX0GIV/IklTJMUOEoKRJJVDuXOQUjT6FpkJa pk4wEO+K1JZwdeOy0SnAxYcqWLAf219mjzmlw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=cyFFdlKEwhUxW32D2GS7SodtcbicAa80KP8CPpfegho66Q0ZipNXZnme8CaI/skkb5 6Pz2zxvxYv1ubxWtfj3YERwZRcGNHVZ1PejjyFz3r0ZbO1XsjOP8uSlQ+aPp3XCPnCY9 wv1DGbZELbRJdMsOSADMVaN+Ru5c2ciT8+m5o= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810241339x6c1438a1w6456410988e876ba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:39:16 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MUSIC UP ON REVERB NATION In-Reply-To: <20081024150002.U9RGE.416216.root@mp17> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34383_1438220.1224880756512" References: <9e0440a60810241101m441f36bdt321dad9ceeb008d2@mail.gmail.com> <20081024150002.U9RGE.416216.root@mp17> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 20:39:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_34383_1438220.1224880756512 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ted - You're welcome it was meant and thanks for your praise, I'll reply to you off-list re details... Jim ------=_Part_34383_1438220.1224880756512 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Ted - You're welcome it was meant and thanks for your praise, I'll reply to you off-list re details...
 
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--=_BA1eJU3Wgl9bCalpuXVaXw-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 24 22:55:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D0083BE84; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:55:51 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Return-Receipt-To:Disposition-Notification-To:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=5JOpfjpgOD5d1H5Licxwy6Iy8hraOvP26q9zFgiHSDhUjIV4Huyrasa1REWGWlZpXDLuXVGk4hhPaA9TNKr/2+k3Y8r6aF0jR/dcWKnzCEr8tfVSnWNHzGhcSUd4bsJfnVsyEk6kMVPxcyl+EODt3R/uQhTMNURPaczIC5sgX0E= ; X-YMail-OSG: vDol2IMVM1miyk_bnSut3aG8EE9R7nz99lky1cwxpbmTjlz0BmPcLWxSC.T_NlgeYAQNyTA4_shVTLIxlmhaBbtCpUrHOyxJ3Yzrv0HnAPpuM8kIRwmxaWW5eyrPeljoiQRS4Mofg5ZZDx1w03ydM24fgS5tTh4LfkKDJlxd X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1811708201 Disposition-Notification-To:kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Message-ID:<1811708201-1224888549-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308811292-@bxe279.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Y2k8 From: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:49:05 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:55:51 +0000 (UTC) I want to publicly thank Rick Walker and everyone who attended this years Y2k Looping Festival for the incredible memories that will stay with me forever. Thanks Rick for your graciousness, hospitality, giving and the conversations about music (at 3 o'clock in the morning)!! In you I've gained a brother. Thanks Krispen for your profound generosity and both you and Rick for ushering me into the software "world", since I've always been a hardwire type of guy......Luis Angulo your musical gift is vast and deeper than you know. Enjoyed creating powerful music with you "In Rick's shed" Literally! Luis we have great things to accompolish. Thanks to Glen and many others who made my stay in Santa Cruz incredible. "KalimbaMan" Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 04:00:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B80803BE7F; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:00:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <490299F0.9090600@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 21:00:48 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Children's toy instruments for looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:00:53 +0000 (UTC) After I took Ryusei and Hideki back to the San Francisco airport to send them back to Japan I decided to treat myself to a completely and utterly sleep deprived and festival overwhelmed day in the city since I was so close. I love going to Haight Ashbury to shop so I went there and found a great instrument at a toy store there called a Water Trumpet. It's shaped like a trumpet but it has five clear plastic water pipes (with side markings for tuning with the level of water you put into it). You blow through it but it won't sound until you open the trumpet 'valve' to basically blow the panpipe styled whistle. It doesn't sound like a trumpet at all, but , even better, it sounds like those really cheap 50's and 60's air portable electric pipe organs. I put it under the water and let the pipes fill up at random intervals which forced a really cool found scale. I just love found scales and you can play it polyphonically as well. I just recorded a snippet so you can hear the sounds. http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283659/TOY%20WATER%20TRUMPET%20demo.WAV The wheezing is my reactive airwave disease that I've had all my life reacting to the over the top amount of pollen in the air we're having after this ridiculous heatwave that hit Santa Cruz after the loopers left. It was 90 degrees yesterday but cooled off today. The pollen is covering the windshields of our car after having cleaned them on Wednesday. Also, I went to the website of a company that carries this cool kiddie instrument and found a plethora of cool toy instruments, including those wonderful tuned bells that I play a lot in concert. People always ask me where I got them and here is where you can buy a little set. They also have a very hip looking toy banjo for sale that I think I"m going to spring for.........it's really inexpensive. http://www.stewarttoys.com/category/musicalinstruments/ enjoy!! Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 06:36:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAD733BE81; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to :references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from :subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=EiMl9sVOrH6jHTtXdA37fkbUTlgf9yBx3AUH0Fvb6Uw=; b=wdHMev2c5ggL7TLjNYH2lllJlHLr2O7TlxMLeq4Or55rAJh7WQtqQdwn12xqPbgV6d 1r/hMM/B/+eAMkSJ8XS2mBtuDBc413zxDaleIQwyLe5rzcID+gYaNTRfetDXQiXBi8A3 Jm+wYlQh6ELo7KkGMsZAPfRRuPD9ZjisjlDQ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=BYhCV/JjEkD5BcWUUY79SGCvx0fn6kvrqlGHtea6Z4EzjkQI9tBJ0WLX1i2kCyJhgj fw16r3U8h6hwEqGp8U5FOL/8UrgLKEemsjPo8h/RQ74j4PD7pD4peNUC2Mc50eELG0M2 WD8mG2YEer5vhWaRcGfJ5Irjz3wS60mZ7jmlg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <490299F0.9090600@cruzio.com> References: <490299F0.9090600@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Ariel Rzezak Subject: Re: OT Children's toy instruments for looping Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:28:12 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Rick, the link is not working. Very best, and congratulations for a great edition of the festival =20 this year. Ariel. El 25/10/2008, a las 01:00, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > After I took Ryusei and Hideki back to the San Francisco airport > to send them back to Japan I decided to treat > myself to a completely and utterly sleep deprived and festival =20 > overwhelmed > day in the city since I was so close. > > I love going to Haight Ashbury to shop so I went there and found a =20 > great instrument > at a toy store there called a Water Trumpet. It's shaped like a =20= > trumpet but it has > five clear plastic water pipes (with side markings for tuning with =20 > the level of water you put into it). > > You blow through it but it won't sound until you open the trumpet =20 > 'valve' to basically > blow the panpipe styled whistle. > > It doesn't sound like a trumpet at all, but , even better, it =20 > sounds like those really > cheap 50's and 60's air portable electric pipe organs. > > I put it under the water and let the pipes fill up at random =20 > intervals which forced a > really cool found scale. I just love found scales and you can =20 > play it polyphonically as well. > > I just recorded a snippet so you can hear the > sounds. > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283659/TOY%20WATER%20TRUMPET%20demo.WAV > > The wheezing is my reactive airwave disease that I've had all my life > reacting to the over the top amount of pollen in the air we're =20 > having after this ridiculous > heatwave that hit Santa Cruz after the loopers left. It was 90 =20 > degrees yesterday but cooled > off today. The pollen is covering the windshields of our car =20 > after having cleaned them on Wednesday. > > Also, I went to the website of a company that carries this cool =20 > kiddie instrument and found a plethora > of cool toy instruments, including those wonderful tuned bells that =20= > I play a lot in concert. People always ask > me where I got them and here is where you can buy a little set. =20 > They also have a very hip looking toy banjo > for sale that I think I"m going to spring for.........it's really =20 > inexpensive. > > http://www.stewarttoys.com/category/musicalinstruments/ > > enjoy!! > > Rick Walker > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 06:40:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46F8E3BE84; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4902BF4A.8070909@cruzio.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:40:10 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT Children's toy instruments for looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:40:21 +0000 (UTC) I haven't figured out www.getdropbox.com yet, so I put this audio file up on my website on a hidden page as an alternative way to hear it. You can hear that Toy Water Trumpet if you are interested by navigating to: www.looppool.info/ToyWaterTrumpet It's 13.7 megs for those of you with dial up, so be careful. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 07:45:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86FB13BE84; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:45:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=NmSSuhRbKlmcIgAYXwWD+FG1bkF5yJ12pTLjzhcvES0=; b=eOBA2PNFD9lJBFYmhu8alhk5eU5pCJoxCDNmWcKZ97rAykU/bzx2hXjw9psEbZE8Jf K/qUvXuXgUi/Rpgi55GTBsZ7Y0H+zKRVSx0BsxHiZRq54O4TJtTYzCMbJP1SE4szL68c iT+JtHSfbGlzVy4jL0BfFYA4++TJwO45Q13Y0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=YHWVw+OpiOgMpsIos9PJkDYmzIkjjDAjD/DEirpSkx2y4aYtj8I4AlvzI1WclIMKo+ q13fcOGjOZXdutjTLQM24vuPOrksbFoj1DtGO2jJLQlCD2ZD/453R6pDDWQRSsDRNMpA d2hNUsxiKBv6aVHNGUHquUj2fWRbXL883bqwg= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810250045m208d13c7gf44fe8d53569f567@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:45:09 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Children's toy instruments for looping In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1831_17095404.1224920709337" References: <490299F0.9090600@cruzio.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: b5c2fd0bec28f968 Resent-Message-ID: <2-9oMD.A._3F.H6sAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:45:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1831_17095404.1224920709337 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline YES it is!!! On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Ariel Rzezak wrote: > Rick, > > the link is not working. > > Very best, and congratulations for a great edition of the festival this > year. > > Ariel. > > El 25/10/2008, a las 01:00, Rick Walker escribi=F3: > > After I took Ryusei and Hideki back to the San Francisco airport >> to send them back to Japan I decided to treat >> myself to a completely and utterly sleep deprived and festival overwhelm= ed >> day in the city since I was so close. >> >> I love going to Haight Ashbury to shop so I went there and found a great >> instrument >> at a toy store there called a Water Trumpet. It's shaped like a >> trumpet but it has >> five clear plastic water pipes (with side markings for tuning with the >> level of water you put into it). >> >> You blow through it but it won't sound until you open the trumpet 'valve= ' >> to basically >> blow the panpipe styled whistle. >> >> It doesn't sound like a trumpet at all, but , even better, it sounds >> like those really >> cheap 50's and 60's air portable electric pipe organs. >> >> I put it under the water and let the pipes fill up at random intervals >> which forced a >> really cool found scale. I just love found scales and you can play it >> polyphonically as well. >> >> I just recorded a snippet so you can hear the >> sounds. >> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283659/TOY%20WATER%20TRUMPET%20demo.WAV >> >> The wheezing is my reactive airwave disease that I've had all my life >> reacting to the over the top amount of pollen in the air we're having >> after this ridiculous >> heatwave that hit Santa Cruz after the loopers left. It was 90 degrees >> yesterday but cooled >> off today. The pollen is covering the windshields of our car after >> having cleaned them on Wednesday. >> >> Also, I went to the website of a company that carries this cool kiddie >> instrument and found a plethora >> of cool toy instruments, including those wonderful tuned bells that I pl= ay >> a lot in concert. People always ask >> me where I got them and here is where you can buy a little set. They >> also have a very hip looking toy banjo >> for sale that I think I"m going to spring for.........it's really >> inexpensive. >> >> http://www.stewarttoys.com/category/musicalinstruments/ >> >> enjoy!! >> >> Rick Walker >> >> >> >> >> > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_1831_17095404.1224920709337 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline YES it is!!!

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 9:2= 8 AM, Ariel Rzezak <arzezak@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick,

the link is not working.

Very best, and congratulations for a great edition of the festival this yea= r.

Ariel.

El 25/10/2008, a las 01:00, Rick Walker escribi=F3:

After I took Ryusei and Hideki back to the San Francisco airport
to send them back to Japan <wipes tear away>  I decided to treat=
myself to a completely and utterly sleep deprived and festival overwhelmed<= br> day in the city since I was so close.

I love going to Haight Ashbury to shop so I went there and found a great in= strument
at a toy store there called a Water Trumpet.     It's shaped = like a trumpet but it has
five clear plastic water pipes (with side markings for tuning with the leve= l of water you put into it).

You blow through it but it won't sound until you open the trumpet '= valve'  to basically
blow the panpipe styled whistle.

It doesn't sound like a trumpet at all, but , even better,   it so= unds like those really
cheap 50's and 60's air portable electric pipe organs.

I put it under the water and let the pipes fill up at random intervals whic= h forced a
really cool found scale.   I just love found scales and you can play i= t polyphonically as well.

 I just recorded a snippet so you can hear the
sounds.
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283659/TOY%20WATER%20TRUMP= ET%20demo.WAV

The wheezing is my reactive airwave disease that I've had all my life reacting to the over the top amount of pollen in the air we're having a= fter this ridiculous
heatwave that hit Santa Cruz after the loopers left.  It was 90 degree= s yesterday but cooled
off today.   The pollen is covering the windshields of our car after h= aving cleaned them on Wednesday.

Also,  I went to the website of a company that carries this cool kiddi= e instrument and found a plethora
of cool toy instruments, including those wonderful tuned bells that I play = a lot in concert.   People always ask
me where I got them and here is where you can buy a little set.   They= also have a very hip looking toy banjo
for sale that I think I"m going to spring for.........it's really = inexpensive.

http://www.stewarttoys.com/category/musicalinstruments/

enjoy!!

Rick Walker








--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markf= rancombe
www.looop.no
------=_Part_1831_17095404.1224920709337-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 08:02:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1976F3BE81; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:02:35 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20081025080235.264020@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19bLhMUduNbriGRU7VsICu6zXmH8nlTlsA10fKSNk SCda5pcYVC4y6ZwvC9Rto/p4eODjBjBqoHeQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: o+AxfUguX1V6Dp12l2ByVsB/SDc4NMx/ X-FuHaFi: 0.73 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:02:39 +0000 (UTC) yep, Echo Audiofire 4 is probably the best match in that price range (esp. if you don't need any preamps). With the Edirol (i'm not sure which model), if you need 96KHz, you can only either record or playback - which I found quite odd. best regards Buzap -- GMX Download-Spiele: Preizsturz! Alle Puzzle-Spiele Deluxe über 60% billiger. http://games.entertainment.gmx.net/de/entertainment/games/download/puzzle/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 08:09:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98B2E3BE89; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20081025080904375.5BB561C00097@mwinf2002.orange.fr Message-Id: <036382AE-D84D-4CAD-8486-6FC9C95D3BF0@gmail.com> From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081025080235.264020@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:09:02 +0200 References: <20081025080235.264020@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:09:06 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 25, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > With the Edirol (i'm not sure which model), if you need 96KHz, you > can only either record or playback - which I found quite odd. It' the UA-700 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 08:12:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 81CF83BE7F; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 04:13:09 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen To The AM/FM Show, Car Talk, and Good Clean Fun To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <4902D515.4050403@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:12:42 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, October 25 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh CAR TALK http://wdiy.org ======================================================================= Saturday at 10 am during Car Talk, I will help host the show on WDIY to entire you to become a member of WDIY. Yes folks, it's the WDIY Fall Membership Drive. It is very important for listeners to become members because that is how WDIY stays on the air. No commercials every five minutes day in and day out. Just great programming with two membership drives each year. Hey, we've got bills, too. So if you enjoy what you hear on WDIY, now is the time to support the station with your membership. Call 610-758-8810 and take two minutes to make a pledge or make a secure on-line pledge at http://wdiy.org and feel good about supporting 88.1 FM. GOOD CLEAN FUN http://wdiy.org ======================================================================= Everyone needs a break. Kate needs a break from hosting her fun show. I need a break from playing only certain kinds of music. You need a break from your hectic work week. So tune in to WDIY at 88.1 FM Saturday night at 9 pm and listen to me host Good Clean Fun. It'll be a hoot! ====================================================================== All times are EDT / GMT-4 / ITZ-5. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls Listen to WMUH on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click one of the LISTEN NOW links at the top right corner of the page or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm or http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh/WMUH.ram From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 08:34:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 916F93BE89; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1801 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:34:06 UTC Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:03:55 -0600 From: Shayne Cafferata Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4902D2EB.8040504@sasktel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: <5ho0GC.A.bb.-ntAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:34:06 +0000 (UTC) i'll put in another vote for "the pearl" with harold budd, michael brook, and i think daniel lanois was on that album too. back when i had a life, i used to use it as an aid for writing. the "music for films" albums are great too. and if you like the pearl, check out harold budd's recordings. is there an eno album that sucks? i can't really think of an entire album that i don't like. but then, i haven't heard anything of his after 2000. how about a song? i think i've heard "backwater" enough to do me. maybe. i'm going to go listen to it right now, just to be sure.... shayne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 09:01:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7AAC3BE85; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMBAKR9AklPRqpW/2dsb2JhbAAIwFeDT4M6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,482,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="97698082" Message-ID: <4902E0DC.3050609@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:03:24 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations References: <20081025080235.264020@gmx.net> <036382AE-D84D-4CAD-8486-6FC9C95D3BF0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <036382AE-D84D-4CAD-8486-6FC9C95D3BF0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:01:25 +0000 (UTC) > On Oct 25, 2008, at 10:02 AM, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> With the Edirol (i'm not sure which model), if you need 96KHz, you can >> only either record or playback - which I found quite odd. > Edirol are part of Roland, ...which kind of explains it in my mythology :-) No one's mentioned the Focusrite interfaces yet, that's what I ended up buying, based on UK reviews, features, cost, and my general liking for their pre-amps. (but I haven't given it a full work out yet, so won't totally recommend it) Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega? Looks like a good deal these days. (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain bin?) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 09:24:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8497F3BE8E; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <251096D8B0E84DF99C80968B090C44EF@eluk1> From: "SP Goodman" To: References: <4902D2EB.8040504@sasktel.net> Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:24:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Unsent: 1 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Vipre-Scanned: 01B7BE2800092A01B7BF75 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:24:58 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shayne Cafferata" To: Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Lurker surfacing with OT Question > i'll put in another vote for "the pearl" with harold budd, michael brook, > and i think daniel lanois was on that album too. back when i had a life, i > used to use it as an aid for writing. the "music for films" albums are > great too. and if you like the pearl, check out harold budd's recordings. > is there an eno album that sucks? i can't really think of an entire album > that i don't like. but then, i haven't heard anything of his after 2000. When "Neroli" came out I had been using the DigiTech 7.6 Time Machine to lay down loopage and, to see if it stood up to casual ambient use, would let the loop run for days at times. After listening to the album my first response was "I can do this", and my second was a feeling of disappointment in the album for this. I suppose it's got its own place in the Eno pantheon but that was the only time I had that reaction to it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 09:36:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDD753BE8E; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 97188388/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.70.170.86/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.70.170.86 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiMBAKmFAklPRqpW/2dsb2JhbAAIwG+DT4M6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,482,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="97188388" Message-ID: <4902E93A.2030804@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:39:06 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pictures from Norwich Looping Festival last week References: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <9giYpB.A.TYD.ziuAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:36:51 +0000 (UTC) hi Raul, Patience ;-) There's a fair bit of of great audio from the NorwichFest, but I don't have time right now to sort it. (and some needs to be cleared with the artists) Kind of busy with a certain software looper at the moment. Please enjoy the Y2K8 Santa Cruz clips for now, that's what I'm going to be listening to. (in any case I wouldn't want to clash with the release of y2k audio). When I get time, I hope to put up audio from all the 2008 Norwich events, including the earlier one with Rick Walker, and maybe some of the weird improvs I did at art events where no-one was listening. There's also some Per and Andy audio in the pipeline from joint recording we did here. andy butler Raul Bonell wrote: > So great! > I'd wished to listen to those bits ... > Andy+Per ... arghh! can't resist. > > Go load something up! > > Raül. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 09:51:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E63343BE81; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:51:03 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=aCFvNRDZKVhKeiD/ZTZkYd4y9Oz2HnQVhm8qMdgn3kkHMvQypT2KEHhPExhkSIVa1OiuNXp88YwSf80sElC5/aEt34EQ8mH5kNTIriiYk3WMAO0Z8ej7bDb5Q7/UkQYbJu4AJyX111q6WMP6ZuX3+55lZjE8WEjCb6LDRtSIm/w=; X-YMail-OSG: LzVB0.EVM1lrz06NO6J0zv4G7uTcRIfnja.U4KMd2o4DYOow_0dqHenPiTHsnWaWhqttK.P6e6DX350T9sWYpKrNDKs9tngH0ErVZvc00_nmqysJ5MhVpNA0WhoWBh2YvshDVp7HbgIF4K3kxP6P0ZP2IV80CoFMsC_K9D8- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Reply-To: stevoj@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4902E0DC.3050609@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <121377.86287.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:51:03 +0000 (UTC) > > Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega? > Looks like a good deal these days. > (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain > bin?) > > andy butler Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews suggest that this isn't the case. I think the Omega is USB not firewire though. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 10:00:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46CB03BE95; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:00:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=iH9lP3SzVECvoV19yvN2uj+7vXG2q7tD+VoIohgQsbI=; b=nKgU0kfbDl+0wdWBgh9Nhr5EAMj3hdR6n5JldWRR356vvzIP2Ehxj97F3QkRgWHswH 14hBgtVh9UbFEXWIUYc1gNAEraSLp1KcJ+8SW977JxQcD5tPP9Stm19SsBP5HvYCVc61 jK504/7WwP4EajngVVF9IP4XU6VEUjSZIABbE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Qj0anjzAS2J+ur97U24tcPj4r2qtsWPMaaHGPEYEe7+Egn+65mLAVTMZSTYctZpUrA ikkWwuzP4r/KcmoKDSIwoD5tL8hgoo1IJOteRHHMlsKMhw0sR/1FpopaIpMu6/EC2cag NUffyZBemyKWA4XLpq4DHgMBHTE1o9Wf33EKo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810250300w3095d15exc1b19978da0733dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:00:38 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Children's toy instruments for looping In-Reply-To: <490299F0.9090600@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_71933_7116600.1224928838423" References: <490299F0.9090600@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:00:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_71933_7116600.1224928838423 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I just recorded a snippet so you can hear the > sounds. > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283659/TOY%20WATER%20TRUMPET%20demo.WAV The link gives this error message: "Oops! (404) > We can't find the page you're looking for. Check out our FAQ or forums for > help. Or maybe you should try heading home." > It seems you have used spaces in the file name. That's a classic no-no for the internet because the server fills in the empty spaces, which actually changes the file name. Here the spaces have been filled with "%20". It's not a good idea to use big letters in file names for online documents either, because capitals are dealt with differently by different web servers. It would be fun to hear that toy recording! Maybe you can repost it with an internet safe file name? -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com ------=_Part_71933_7116600.1224928838423 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 6:00 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:

>  I just recorded a snippet so you can hear the
> sounds.  
> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283659/TOY%20WATER%20TRUMPET%20demo.WAV


The link gives this error message:

 "Oops! (404)
We can't find the page you're looking for. Check out our FAQ or forums for help. Or maybe you should try heading home."

It seems you have used spaces in the file name. That's a classic no-no for the internet because the server fills in the empty spaces, which actually changes the file name. Here the spaces have been filled with "%20". It's not a good idea to use big letters in file names for online documents either, because capitals are dealt with differently by different web servers.

It would be fun to hear that toy recording! Maybe you can repost it with an internet safe file name?

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen
www.stockholm-athens.com


------=_Part_71933_7116600.1224928838423-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 10:26:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 614C63BE92; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00fb01c9368c$0ffdc360$0400000a@ERDEMOLD> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: References: <121377.86287.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:25:54 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C936A5.351D0D90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <7_J8lD.A.KvF.4QvAJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:26:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C936A5.351D0D90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have the presonus firepod. great machine with great preamps. 8 in, 8 = out. have recorded many albums with it! best. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA_CDS/NA131/NA131.htm www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stephen Scott=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations >=20 > Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega? > Looks like a good deal these days. > (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain > bin?) >=20 > andy butler Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various = forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most = reviews suggest that this isn't the case. I think the Omega is USB not = firewire though. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C936A5.351D0D90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i have the presonus firepod. great machine with great preamps. 8 = in,=20 8 out. have recorded many albums with it!
 
best.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
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"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
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>
> Has anyone tried the lexicon = Omega?
> Looks=20 like a good deal these days.
> (or is there some driver issue = sending it=20 to the bargain
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>
> andy = butler

Haven't tried=20 myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various forums that = mention=20 insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews suggest that = this isn't=20 the case.  I think the Omega is USB not firewire=20 though.




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Mr. Atanda Gii. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 12:03:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3AC3BE97; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=J3R8UHTrU+7xHS7Ctydub7OIEnbRwLYoHVOxLRWLob0=; b=KmD9NwafaGQcrR8SF9LNqkJk2u63gVTsKdR4b6E95mHYylspNmNz2IoY32cnVebAoz anx47HwGXAdO/j6rwkXv2W2L1uLDZDASDU6D9abAzzqxUCJhE9AJRHskKzxYkJqtZR1a c9G5gRJ2KTycnKTnb6tBGRyN3BsDlloXwIz1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=PiULQRFj1uzwVKqxGsxv8eVLfn8eck91mZuSLxno/AFYrbyYCaiylU7rsFyAdcuThT ZDOcIfQ+0SqbRvtds9Vmk9u2DUwUeGBaoCVv52Sqb5yUjZ5pz1Mh8duxCweB6DlJcyLo o8lFKDjTgO3QSiu+FKNZ1dOp/PXNRqukD1WBI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:03:09 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations In-Reply-To: <121377.86287.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_76164_24679455.1224936189037" References: <4902E0DC.3050609@tiscali.co.uk> <121377.86287.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d232d99e12ff7b85 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:03:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_76164_24679455.1224936189037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something great to use now. The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any quality loss when recording back into the comp though? On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott wrote: > > > > Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega? > > Looks like a good deal these days. > > (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain > > bin?) > > > > andy butler > > Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various > forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews > suggest that this isn't the case. I think the Omega is USB not firewire > though. > > > > > > > ------=_Part_76164_24679455.1224936189037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something great to use now.

The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any quality loss when recording back into the comp though?

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott <stevoj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega?
> Looks like a good deal these days.
> (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain
> bin?)
>
> andy butler

Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews suggest that this isn't the case.  I think the Omega is USB not firewire though.







------=_Part_76164_24679455.1224936189037-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 12:03:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 282683BEA2; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=iAAWdMCNsomH3glGxXQ5hEEVv5WqrxVc3i4Uu2LDsm0=; b=uEG/StoAhT0UsgRMh4oW081dRe86qRYuur6dF3vWMnwyoE8GgnwzRYK6NKrANFG/2d cWKVLW9gHszD8i8J1dOWTJW7lGO8tqQm1MsfCjvVo6K5urXIZX3VL9WxuA4o9WbTL6w2 w74QtxYF54ZbkJfgXB2RJqAmuu+evu9JDOniQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Wt+QUy9xujX0KrfSsq4AXksUITVxS7gIwQLwDnhHaDfsin2Oi8o82kCTAxIV9vGyb6 vb3onZ0p30vPEyyDsi/wwzhj5LgvdeyMfutZWvDNubNJMAbrgcEYbaVpcdDAP5RS/xAh 9RlIJ6hrvgp4o6uw1P4+xHMlSzQ8pPLaO0sWQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 05:03:39 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_76166_25848578.1224936219638" References: <4902E0DC.3050609@tiscali.co.uk> <121377.86287.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 602ece5504c2b29b Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:03:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_76166_25848578.1224936219638 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline *sorry, audiofire 4. On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Nick wrote: > thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something > great to use now. > > The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better > to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, > so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me > though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need > to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any > quality loss when recording back into the comp though? > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott wrote: > >> > >> > Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega? >> > Looks like a good deal these days. >> > (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain >> > bin?) >> > >> > andy butler >> >> Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various >> forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews >> suggest that this isn't the case. I think the Omega is USB not firewire >> though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ------=_Part_76166_25848578.1224936219638 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline *sorry, audiofire 4.

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 5:03 AM, Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com> wrote:
thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something great to use now.

The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any quality loss when recording back into the comp though?


On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott <stevoj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega?
> Looks like a good deal these days.
> (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain
> bin?)
>
> andy butler

Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews suggest that this isn't the case.  I think the Omega is USB not firewire though.








------=_Part_76166_25848578.1224936219638-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 12:13:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BE8C3BEA2; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=gF_Q_ZvHpU7Xw1nup-gA:9 a=UoOJDzF4gtecvSYRQIYpJeH0zMgA:4 a=3I_whO4B8K8A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <857FE503-085A-4FC3-830D-D19331D9F079@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Gigs/Economy in your area Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:13:43 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:13:45 +0000 (UTC) Just curious how everybody else is fairing. I'm down probably 60% in the last 4 months. Bars and restaurants are still busy in my area (southern New England), but I think they are cutting back out of fear. It's getting really scary. It was hard before, now its just about impossible to make any money. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 12:22:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF0F73BEA4; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 836 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:22:16 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: live theatrical radio (?) looping in chicago Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:08:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Server-Quench: 9cb5c120-a28d-11dd-8155-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZUSgod IjEDASxNQBkkIBIK ChgGOy9dJ0IETx8U HkteL1VTLHUYQlZB ViRIRgABDAQmASdr OFUMIwdYfTUdGxpo UEhBUlNRHgVgCx0I SBYYTB1xaQBYcXlv Z0NgW29bEhlzFTV1 OBEBFW8BYWVjJmEf UUYWflAGdVBLfB9Y O1J3AG4MYDFTe3Jh QlJ2Z2hoZGUCJH8K HQoEO1YTX0tDAj4x TgwYHD4mGQUfTiky KFRmfR9UGEEWKkQ0 PhMgXxoTMx4ZAwJZ d2l0 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:1378/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:22:16 +0000 (UTC) hi loopers, i'm about to leave paris for chicago. the tour has been great. sooperlooper has been amazing. rock solid. i enjoyed meeting several other loopers on the list in various countries. wanted to let anyone in chicago know that i'll be performing at the victory garden theater on oct 26 and 27th. making a live, looped cello score to WNYC's "RadioLab Live!: Martian Invation, Decoding the War of the Worlds" its going to be a cool show. celloly yours, zoe p.s. i met buzap in munich and we came up with a special looper hand sign. maybe he can post it to flickr? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 14:14:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6616A3BEA4; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:14:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lApahsbD60xmPiCh+mzUFN2sfNvc9Re0QUbvP5kGWIo=; b=ogqnD4SIx5Sh/XhqyhR0vF6YsQ6R0J+9uaIDS20rs7f1vOzToWXhkZ8wBs5A3Cgarh 4Ja1axeo705RFisKDnasZHhqL/BRsY60aY/i4SQIkow2Hhug6ksP6BFoZL7Ww2spUZ61 Y6dapkH4vsJ6yIYIjbmXQl6Mk6ZdRS1gBiE/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZQg34d3dkSHRERYa6uWoqhXgI0HpW1neXPfty/YP+kdEWGrEecmmks9vLR4e/gkL9U V6UfcmUaDfkLtDf+r0Z8p+TFYmXAWTfUPxDdQfqUq5HkqyO/YmcNAxGl+/GraPMK9E0J 18Xcr23g6tTH/GkSui7/pGVmZuO0vzspY75zg= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:14:36 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15373_30137203.1224944076425" References: <4902E0DC.3050609@tiscali.co.uk> <121377.86287.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:14:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15373_30137203.1224944076425 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hi nick, i use the audiofire2 with a macbook (not pro), power feeded from the computer and i plug my guitar (with active electronics) directly into one of the analog inputs of the audiofire2. nothing more, no additional preamp, no DI or ID ;-) ... the sound of the guitar is tweaked inside the computer.... no hum, noise at noticeable levels... quality. going for the smallest setup, if you don't need the preamp, then a2 is the best shot. also conversion in the echo seems to be one of the most accurate (as is general agreement in related forums) among those brands we've named here. go for it .002 2008/10/25 Nick > thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something > great to use now. > > The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better > to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, > so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me > though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need > to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any > quality loss when recording back into the comp though? > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott wrote: > >> > >> > Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega? >> > Looks like a good deal these days. >> > (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain >> > bin?) >> > >> > andy butler >> >> Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various >> forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews >> suggest that this isn't the case. I think the Omega is USB not firewire >> though. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_15373_30137203.1224944076425 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hi nick,

i use the audiofire2 with a macbook (not pro), power feeded from the computer and i plug my guitar (with active electronics) directly into one of the analog inputs of the audiofire2. nothing more, no additional preamp, no DI or ID ;-) ... the sound of the guitar is tweaked inside the computer.... no hum, noise at noticeable levels... quality.

going for the smallest setup, if you don't need the preamp, then a2 is the best shot.

also conversion in the echo seems to be one of the most accurate (as is general agreement in related forums) among those brands we've named here.

go for it
.002

2008/10/25 Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com>
thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something great to use now.

The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any quality loss when recording back into the comp though?


On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott <stevoj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega?
> Looks like a good deal these days.
> (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain
> bin?)
>
> andy butler

Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews suggest that this isn't the case.  I think the Omega is USB not firewire though.










--
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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_15373_30137203.1224944076425-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 14:52:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 513893BEA4; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+dROx9M9fBQDSDVM2DdxK9ZV4CXePHbqir+YMlx/N74=; b=ZB1ZbM4D5YiCNh6QC8vRlRSRgD1S4ZG+mE8cWj0ZZHsReHoAp6ymJUXa95DjhCI7OY ViPmaf8Hx8RfBijQMamKoXnK0GGoZhztfpZlma5qUj41RnaP3moOpPdEh9+6A3M94Fyp E0091obE4GLtuwSDYFJ0qVxg580zMyelB/gRs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=wc58+7fzepToFLZaQhnVTvV3X3gl5kzMpoapNEskgAjrjM2rmfYe/5dM7SuRH4UKlV auHvln0c/fjxcGe2aOIHp3IyV3pVBLLd9vmsHHL5YOT04LObpo1QlB5vQUPVqpk1W7DE gI4moJGaSLfl6k27LITUbTkPLzgF13Mxy9rDA= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:52:17 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pictures from Norwich Looping Festival last week In-Reply-To: <4902E93A.2030804@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15456_30411761.1224946337665" References: <66f9cc1e0810221320g42152b7alf050470918f2eb2b@mail.gmail.com> <4902E93A.2030804@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:52:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15456_30411761.1224946337665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2008/10/25 andy butler > hi Raul, > Patience ;-) > > There's a fair bit of of great audio from the NorwichFest, > but I don't have time right now to sort it. > (and some needs to be cleared with the artists) > > Kind of busy with a certain software looper at the moment. > this is really good news so far. > > Please enjoy the Y2K8 Santa Cruz clips for now, that's what I'm going to = be > listening to. me too! ... that's my regular listening list on weekends along with improv. band das hertz where our pal m.peters does guitar rol tremendously. can't have enough of this stuff... > (in any case I wouldn't want > to clash with the release of y2k audio). > > When I get time, I hope to put up audio from all the 2008 Norwich events, > including the earlier one with Rick Walker, and maybe some of the weird > improvs I did at art events where no-one was listening. > > There's also some Per and Andy audio in the pipeline from joint recording > we did here. ale, ale .. as frisell pointed out " have a little patience ", .. or was it faith? ... ;-) love the personnel in this list,amazing musicianfriendship. cheers, ra=FCl. --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_15456_30411761.1224946337665 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
2008/10/25 andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
hi Raul,
Patience ;-)

There's a fair bit of of great audio from the NorwichFest,
but I don't have time right now to sort it.
(and some needs to be cleared with the artists)

Kind of busy with a certain software looper at the moment.
=

this is really good news so far.
 
=

Please enjoy the Y2K8 Santa Cruz clips for now, that's what I'm goi= ng to be listening to.

me too! ... that'= ;s my regular listening list on weekends along with improv. band das hertz = where our pal m.peters does guitar rol tremendously. can't have enough = of this stuff... 

 
(in any case I wouldn't want
to clash with the release of y2k audio).

When I get time, I hope to put up audio from all the 2008 Norwich events, including the earlier one with Rick Walker, and maybe some of the weird
improvs I did at art events where no-one was listening.

There's also some Per and Andy audio in the pipeline from joint recordi= ng we did here.

ale, ale .. as frisell poin= ted out " have a little patience ", .. or was it faith? ... ;-)

love the personnel in this list,
amazing= musicianfriendship. 

cheers,
ra=FC= l.

--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.= ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO = at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_15456_30411761.1224946337665-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 15:20:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC86E3BEBE; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49033A1A.8050806@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:24:10 +0200 From: van Sinn Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Frequencies_was_Re=3A_AW=3A_AW=3A?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_OT=3A_new_Macbook_w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= References: <395554.64009.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <48FD91A1.6020501@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <48FD91A1.6020501@googlemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Stefan Tiedje wrote: > > The main reason why higher sampling rates sound better, is avoided > aliasing. It's almost impossible to create an analog filter which will > pass all until 20 kHz and cutting all above 22.05 kHz. To create a > filter that has a complete octave to do that is much easier to build. Yes - in ye olde days when antialiazing filters were purely analog. With oversampling and digital filters on-chip, this no longer holds true. The remaining analog filter serves mainly as a reconstruction filter. See further below.. > The bad reputation of digital versus analog is due to bad implementation > of converters in the beginning of the digital era btw... Totally agree. Back in '84, I build a digital delay for audio as my graduation project. 44 Khz sample rate (IIRC), 18Khz bandwidth, 11th order Sallen-Key Bessel filters, Analog Devices ADC & DAC, Burr Brown sample-hold amplifier, metal film resistors and the best film capacitors I could get hold on. Sounded gorgeously clean. What a job matching 1% resistors and caps to ½ % tolerance for those high order filters. Fortunately technology has evolved beyond that ;) Most filters back then were low-order Butterworth types, which has kinda acceptable ripple in the passband and not-too-severe phase issues, but elliptical filters, like audio-wise shameless Chebychef and Legendre filters, has been used too, because they quickly reach a steep flank, and thus *seemingly* require less complicated filters. Seemingly, because such filters do not retain the steep flanks, but starts to level out even before reaching the buttom of the dynamic range of the device. So, not only did they sound awful, but aliasing products got introduced, which, even at low levels, were still audible. > Stefan -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 16:44:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5CFC3BEA6; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49034CD4.3060709@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:44:04 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: OT Children's toy instruments for looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 16:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote: "It seems you have used spaces in the file name. That's a classic no-no for the internet because the server fills in the empty spaces, which actually changes the file name. Here the spaces have been filled with "%20". It's not a good idea to use big letters in file names for online documents either, because capitals are dealt with differently by different web servers." Thanks, Per, I'll take that advice to heart from now on. Actually, I was in a hurry and had just started to get the hang of using www.getdropbox.com, which, by the way, is an awesome and convenient service once you get the hang of it and is free. Jim Goodin hipped me to it when he posted his pictures he took of my dayglo orange set from Y2K8 (which came out fabulously, by the way). you also wrote: "It would be fun to hear that toy recording! Maybe you can repost it with an internet safe file name?" well, for the time being, i posted it at my own website: http://www.looppool.info/ToyWaterTrumpet/ By the way, watch for my next post about some experiments I'm trying with this simple little forced pentatonic instrument, I think you might enjoy it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 17:12:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0ADE3BEA0; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <14605675E1F24932B3073B78419EA713@MichaelPC> From: To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: live theatrical radio (?) looping in chicago Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:11:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:12:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi Zoe! Plish here. I believe I'm in town this weekend so I'll try and come out. ~peace~ plish www.myspace.com/bohdanovich www.michaelplishka.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "info at zoekeating" To: Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 7:08 AM Subject: live theatrical radio (?) looping in chicago > hi loopers, > > i'm about to leave paris for chicago. the tour has been great. > sooperlooper has been amazing. rock solid. i enjoyed meeting several > other loopers on the list in various countries. > > wanted to let anyone in chicago know that i'll be performing at the > victory garden theater on oct 26 and 27th. making a live, looped > cello score to WNYC's "RadioLab Live!: Martian Invation, Decoding the > War of the Worlds" > > its going to be a cool show. > > celloly yours, > > zoe > > p.s. i met buzap in munich and we came up with a special looper hand > sign. maybe he can post it to flickr? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 17:21:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B08963BEB2; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49035591.1080309@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:21:21 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070702040704000507030705" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:21:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070702040704000507030705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've flashed on a fun and I think new approach to scalar playing today, goofing around with this Toy Water Trumpet that I just bought (see previous post). I think it will make more sense if I explain the history of where I'm coming from, aesthetically, before I describe it. In retrospect, I realize it's a bit wordy but I enjoyed reminiscing to write it. Just skip down to 'Constrained Random Scale Approach' if you don't feel like wading through the verbiage and personal aesthetic history. to whit: My knowledge of scales didn't come from a typical western approach. I took formal music lessons and played piano, cello and clarinet as a child (parentally induced lessons from 5-13 years old) but I had a talented ear for intervals and I could usually remember a melody if it was played for me so I faked my teachers into thinking I had learned how to read when I , indeed, never had.. I made it all the way to first chair clarinet in my Junior High School using this lazy approach before the gods and goddesses of rock and roll stole me away (and before I could get my ass kicked by a more sophisticated high school music teacher ) I fell in love with the drumset (and girls!) at the onset of puberty and later ethnic percussion and that was the end of melody and harmony for me for many, many years to come. When sampling and midi began to happen in a reasonably affordable way (re: Radio Shack Casio samplers) I was extremely excited by it's prospects as I had already developed a great love for exotic drum machine and analogue drum synthesizer sounds in modern music. I realized that I could use an Octapad 80 (an 8 note, sophisticated and progammable midi drum stick controller) as a virtual modal log drum. I then began to learn tons of world music scales in earnest and began progamming them into my beloved AKAI S950 (the last great 12 bit sampler and the first good one I was ever able to afford) and I realized that I tended naturally to like modal and scalar kinds of music (re: ethnic music) far more than more complex western harmonic approaches to melody and harmony. Like an African Baliphone, there were no wrong notes on it. I liked this! When I finally bought my first Lexicon Jamman in '95, suddenly, I realized that it would be efficacious to start learning monophonic and chordally based instruments (and found sounds) just so that I could start very modestly adding more interesting melodic and timbral elements to my mostly percussive based loops...........that led me to begin to try and understand fretted, blown and hammered instruments and the ways they used scales. Then I got bored with my limited knowledge of modal and scalar approaches and I began to learn modern harmony in a more formal way to try and extract more interesting results from my modest little melodic excursions. Anway, this led me, by way of fretless string instruments and bansuri flute, to begin to think of all scales as being alterations of the common greek modes (just for sheer speed in learning).................and then think of these scales in terms of sets (5,6,7 and even 8 note scales). Furthermore, I began to notice that most scales tended to have certain key notes in them that usually (but certainly not always) reflected the physics of music, like the 5th (2nd harmonic) and some kind of 3rd (again, not always). I also noticed that it would be the 'weaker' notes in the scale would be the ones that would be altered by half or even quarter tones (like in the Maqams of the Arabic world). As an example of this approach, a pentatonic scale like the Indian rag MADHU KAUNS (1 b3 #4 5 b7) taught to me by Deepak Ram, the bansuri flute master I would think of as being a Dorian mode with a sharp 4 and minus the 2nd and 6th degrees. At the same time during this process of learning, however, I had also been interested in found scales and microtonal scales really fascillitated by live looping where I could play a random set of pots and pans as a metallaphone .............all things constrained by whatever the 'instrument' I was playing gave me. All of this led me to yesterday's experiments with the Toy Water Trumpet. 'Constrained Random Scale Approach' Thinking along these lines I filled the Water Trumpet (by merely holding it under the water and letting the stream go into the individual chambers). and Then I randomly drained two of the chambers completely, leaving myself with a random 'found' scale of three notes. Then I played them over and over and decided what the other two pitches should be and meticulously injected water into them (with a cool little tool that allows for accurate tuning using the marks on the side of the instrument) to tune them properly. By doing this I had truly created a found scale but I had added notes to make it more musical and versatile to my own ear. Along these lines I realized that one could take a guitar or five string bass and use the same approach to create a constrained random harp, if you will I have experimented with randomly tuning four of my six strings on my recently defretted strat, literally tuning the pegs until tensioned from slack and then marking their location on the guitar. I then play them over and over again until I get a sense for what the scale is I have stumbled upon. Then I conciously add two more strings in to the tuning to make it a complete harp and improvise accordingly. You then play the instrument as a harp and not a fretable guitar................you are forced into this new scale that is partially out of your concious control and partially in your concious control. More experiments to come. --------------070702040704000507030705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've flashed on a fun and I think new approach to scalar playing today,  goofing
around with this Toy Water Trumpet that I just bought (see previous post).

I think it will make more sense if I  explain the history of where I'm coming
from, aesthetically, before I describe it.

In retrospect, I realize it's a bit wordy but I enjoyed reminiscing to write it.
Just skip down to 'Constrained Random Scale Approach'  if you don't feel
like wading through the verbiage and personal aesthetic history.

to whit:

My knowledge of scales didn't come from a typical western approach.   I took formal music lessons and played piano, cello and clarinet
as a child (parentally induced lessons from 5-13 years old) but I had a talented ear for intervals and I could usually remember a melody if
it was played for me so I faked my teachers into thinking I had learned how to read when I , indeed, never had..
I made it all the way to first chair clarinet in my Junior High School using this lazy approach before the gods and goddesses of rock and roll
stole me away (and before I could get my ass kicked by a more sophisticated high school music teacher <smile>)

I fell in love with the drumset (and girls!) at the onset of puberty and later ethnic percussion and that was the end of melody and harmony
for me for many, many years to come.

When sampling and midi  began to happen in a reasonably affordable way (re: Radio Shack Casio samplers)  I was extremely
excited by it's prospects as I had already developed a great love for exotic drum machine and analogue drum synthesizer sounds
in modern music.

I realized that I could use an Octapad 80 (an 8 note, sophisticated and progammable midi drum stick
controller) as a virtual modal log drum.         I then began to learn tons of world music scales in earnest and began progamming
them into my beloved AKAI S950 (the last great 12 bit sampler and the first good one I was ever able to afford) and I realized that
I tended naturally to like modal and scalar kinds of music (re: ethnic music) far more than more complex western harmonic
approaches to melody and harmony.    Like an African Baliphone,  there were no wrong notes on it.   I liked this!

When I finally bought my first Lexicon Jamman in '95,  suddenly,  I realized that it would be efficacious to start learning
monophonic and chordally based instruments (and found sounds) just so that I could start very modestly adding more interesting melodic
and timbral elements to my mostly percussive based loops...........that led me to begin to try and understand fretted, blown
and hammered instruments and the ways they used scales.

Then I got bored with my limited knowledge of modal and scalar approaches and I began to learn modern harmony in a more formal way to
try and extract more interesting results from my modest little melodic excursions.

Anway,  this led me, by way of  fretless string instruments and bansuri flute,  to begin to think of all scales as being alterations
of the common greek modes (just for sheer speed in learning).................and then think of these scales in terms of sets
(5,6,7 and even 8 note scales).    Furthermore,  I began to notice that most scales tended to have certain key notes in them
that usually (but certainly not always) reflected the physics of music,  like the 5th (2nd harmonic) and some kind of 3rd (again,
not always).  I also noticed that it would be the 'weaker' notes in the scale would be the ones that would be altered
by half or even quarter tones (like in the Maqams of the Arabic world).

As an example of this approach,  a pentatonic scale like the Indian rag  MADHU KAUNS (1  b3   #4   5   b7) taught to me by Deepak Ram, the bansuri flute master
I would think of as being a  Dorian mode with a sharp 4  and minus the 2nd and 6th degrees.

At the same time during this process of learning, however,  I had also been interested in found scales and microtonal scales
really fascillitated by live looping where I could play a random set of pots and pans as a metallaphone .............all things constrained by whatever
the 'instrument' I was playing gave me.

All of this led me to yesterday's experiments with the Toy Water Trumpet.

'Constrained Random Scale Approach'

Thinking along these lines I filled the Water Trumpet (by merely holding it under the water and letting the stream go into the individual chambers).
and Then I randomly drained two of the chambers completely,   leaving myself with a random 'found'  scale of three notes.
Then I played them over and over and decided what the other two pitches should be and meticulously injected water into them
(with a cool little tool that allows for accurate tuning using the marks on the side of the instrument) to tune them properly.

By doing this I had truly created a found scale but I had added notes to make it more musical and versatile to my own ear.

Along these lines I realized that one could take a guitar or five string bass and use the same approach to create
a constrained random harp, if you will

I have experimented with randomly tuning four of my six strings on my recently defretted strat, literally tuning the pegs until
tensioned from slack and then marking their location on the guitar.  I then play them over and over again until I get a sense
for what the scale is I have stumbled upon.   Then I conciously add two more strings in to the tuning to make it a complete
harp and improvise accordingly.

You then play the instrument as a harp and not  a fretable guitar................you are forced into this new scale that is
partially out of your concious control and partially in your concious control.

More experiments to come.

--------------070702040704000507030705-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 17:22:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1AD33BEBE; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <49034CD4.3060709@cruzio.com> References: <49034CD4.3060709@cruzio.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--312590920 Message-Id: <1973ABC5-65D7-4962-B578-7A8F00FF4CD0@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT: OT Children's toy instruments for looping ("Goosebump") Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:20:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:22:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--312590920 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Per wrote: > "It seems you have used spaces in the file name. That's a classic > no-no for the internet because the server fills in the empty > spaces, which actually changes the file name. Here the spaces have > been filled with "%20". It's not a good idea to use big letters in > file names for online documents either, because capitals are dealt > with differently by different web servers." > > Thanks, Per, I'll take that advice to heart from now on. > Actually, I was in a hurry and had just started to get the hang of > using > www.getdropbox.com, which, by the way, is an awesome and > convenient service once you get the hang of it and is free. > Jim Goodin hipped me to it when he posted his pictures he took of > my dayglo orange set from Y2K8 (which came out fabulously, by the > way). > > you also wrote: > "It would be fun to hear that toy recording! Maybe you can repost > it with an internet safe file name?" > > well, for the time being, i posted it at my own website: > > http://www.looppool.info/ToyWaterTrumpet/ > > By the way, watch for my next post about some experiments I'm > trying with this simple little forced pentatonic instrument, I > think you might enjoy it. On the subject of using children's toy instruments for making music, check out what The Residents did way back in 1980 with "Goosebump" which was done using toys from Toys R Us. "Goosebump" is based on some classic Mother Goose nursery rhymes and is the B-side of their "Diskomo" mini-LP (available also on CD, and "inspired" by their classic "Eskimo" LP). Definitely REVcommended! All the best, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-5--312590920 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:44 = AM, Rick Walker wrote:

Per wrote:
"It seems you = have used spaces in the file name. That's a classic no-no for the = internet because the server fills in the empty spaces, which actually = changes the file name. Here the spaces have been filled with "%20". It's = not a good idea to use big letters in file names for online documents = either, because capitals are dealt with differently by different web = servers."

Thanks, Per,=A0 = I'll take that advice to heart from now on. =A0 Actually,=A0 I was in a hurry and had just = started to get the hang of using
=A0 = which,=A0 by the = way, =A0 is an awesome and = convenient service once you get the hang of it <blush> and is = free.
Jim Goodin hipped me to it when = he posted his pictures he took of my dayglo orange set from Y2K8 (which = came out fabulously, by the way).

you also wrote:
"It would be fun to hear that toy recording! Maybe = you can repost it with an internet safe file name?"

well, = for the time being, =A0 i = posted it at my own website:

By the way,=A0 watch for my next post about = some experiments I'm trying with this simple little forced pentatonic = instrument,=A0 I think you = might enjoy it.

On the subject of = using children's toy instruments for making music, check out what The = Residents did way back in 1980=A0with "Goosebump"=A0
which was = done using toys from Toys R Us. =A0"Goosebump" is based on some classic = Mother Goose=A0nursery rhymes
and is the B-side of their = "Diskomo" mini-LP (available also on CD, and "inspired" by their classic = "Eskimo" LP). Definitely REVcommended!

All = the best,
Rev Fever

= --Apple-Mail-5--312590920-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 17:51:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8E743BEA6; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:51:36 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=20OT=A0=20Children's=20toy=20instruments=20fo?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?r=20looping?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cc6.3f49ba87.3634b6a8_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:51:41 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cc6.3f49ba87.3634b6a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en In a message dated 10/25/08 12:01:05 AM, looppool@cruzio.com writes: > http://www.stewarttoys.com/category/musicalinstruments/ >=20 rickeeeeeeeeeeeee.....you da man!.....i'm dumping my guitars and going all=20 toy!.....m "when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a=20 butterfly"..... kenneth patchen new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Play online games for FREE at Games.com! All of your favorites,=20 no registration required and great graphics =E2=80=93 check it out!=20 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1211202682x1200689022/aol?redir=3D http://www.games.com?ncid=3Demlcntusgame00000001) --part1_cc6.3f49ba87.3634b6a8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
In a message dated 10/25/08 12:01:05 AM, looppool@cruzio.com writes:


http://www.stewarttoy= s.com/category/musicalinstruments/


rickeeeeeeeeeeeee.....you da man!.....i'm dumping my guitars and going al= l toy!.....m

"when a gorilla looks into a mirror he doesn't expect to see a butterfly"...= .. kenneth patchen

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In a message dated 10/25/08 5:37:07 AM, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk writes:


and maybe some of the= weird
improvs I did at art events where no-one was listening.


i was listening!.....:)m



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Anyone else having a problem logging = into their=20 myspace account?
 
thanks
 
Jeff
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C936AC.FFDCB920-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 18:26:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4233BE99; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=LhshVQbfrfzhPzecboGCqW0RA2uNBWzgXmk9SOjhU4k=; b=kfUQMaHMVa5EUSXIhk8RWIyO8co4d2wLXGCOXPDZP75BoQhafOAvriHq6UwVVjbnFG NPTBuZmmehz15+XQjyR2B0K58Cs4BPzA4vpPJEISBRngfO4R2oowM87TDorBhRU345Nb CRsevJlkozfnoYmhl04jZWA4x1HUuFUKJN874= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IoDa5xTvgQr47NZK2FpzBpLYwsPQFnn0MGmAsC1QGGKg32pHANtJrx4g+IYPyCBAmg 9FpSE0eVws4XPho0ixTPuIcHYZzOE8eWeD1DT8p+HTKw37lnD9j25FZwhpuIKbMlFU8p k8NLVyIetypftCYBt94eLCopzh0CMYvOX8J8I= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810251126v1ce7b343y527d9bc56133cc5a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:26:26 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Myspace In-Reply-To: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:26:28 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:21 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account? > > thanks > > Jeff Yes. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 18:38:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E8D73BE89; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:38:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=h+qseLGfc5A6yrGjOeK7OPaMY4wxnjiuS2EuB+NEd5w=; b=R3BvUtADLCg3JMM27YnPhgPVC2R6vkNo4/aDL8lJH7uEiFvesL7TO+OZ0io4uPCm+O Bzo6MO9XuYZCVq1hBphkVdK9UQK7H2crkDCqkwocG6RVQcfLmJKRBQ/oemT8gbe2JLbT W+OLhmfVWBk0qN3NVT+7ArRB/HS253a61r2jU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=K5CshpOwO//1IzsYzcC9Q1tPYeQTFbVr1p6cQIh63kd+ElDUXJb67dcJ6jbtDzCmLN NPRtWZFfC0GntQbf7E4hh9xDkIaha++qH1e+GNW4xdBmMMnYh3u9166gLgUfsEJh3CR5 jFZm8Iidao3UF8BHn7MjMSvoOryBms7cpqo54= Message-ID: <1f6442e00810251138w282569b7i25539cc78737a5d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:38:05 +0100 From: "Kayla Kavanagh" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Myspace In-Reply-To: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12688_3492643.1224959885473" References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:38:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12688_3492643.1224959885473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I thought it was just me! Nope, can't get in either :) 2008/10/25 Jeff Duke Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account? > > thanks > > Jeff > -- Kayla's website: http://www.kaylakavanagh.com MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kaylakavanagh FaceBook: http://www.new.facebook.com/pages/Kayla-Kavanagh/22032129016 Kaleidoscope Web Design: http://www.kaleidoscope-design.co.uk ------=_Part_12688_3492643.1224959885473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I thought it was just me!
 
Nope, can't get in either :)
2008/10/25 Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com(
Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account?
 
thanks
 
Jeff


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------=_Part_12688_3492643.1224959885473-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 18:44:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7006E3BE8A; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:44:56 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=F6NEMEzxeNnyC0fjU0yxvornm1grZqJ6tsMvpTGS3h/5tprAZe4cXxl0Bz+P8/+Z1ZFG69Gfed8HXWhpo3bu9PWkkaGcf5yUPp7VPf4H4nl6J769I2c7RBZfP9q6mQHdJXDxWs2dppDW/PMrtVf6nXmIUC543iH9tS5LyD2QSzk=; X-YMail-OSG: 6mRcDqUVM1kYtyRCV4n3l1t5Gu2TTMKgVyf5i.zhTnUL2ZA.xjulW9nvqquIYGvvsGTtoF_YDJsGZ7ETexyIFpARWwkqOD9yFFDcMWkL8G787NCBBS2j2qIeSXGCgUZ6VZq1gvOwKjwZIWmLW0.Jejy5WsODGXjJpq3Ypva5T5LXi3olG_Yrun4E44Q3 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:38:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <49035591.1080309@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1821050798-1224959896=:42805" Message-ID: <527076.42805.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:44:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-1821050798-1224959896=:42805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool thoughts.=A0 Thanks for sharing your ideas and your internal process. JK --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Rick Walker wrote: From: Rick Walker Subject: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 10:21 AM I've flashed on a fun and I think new approach to scalar playing today,=A0 = goofing=20 around with this Toy Water Trumpet that I just bought (see previous post). I think it will make more sense if I=A0 explain the history of where I'm co= ming=20 from, aesthetically, before I describe it. In retrospect, I realize it's a bit wordy but I enjoyed reminiscing to writ= e it. Just skip down to 'Constrained Random Scale Approach'=A0 if you don't feel= =20 like wading through the verbiage and personal aesthetic history. to whit: My knowledge of scales didn't come from a typical western approach.=A0=A0 I= took formal music lessons and played piano, cello and clarinet=20 as a child (parentally induced lessons from 5-13 years old) but I had a tal= ented ear for intervals and I could usually remember a melody if=20 it was played for me so I faked my teachers into thinking I had learned how= to read when I , indeed, never had.. I made it all the way to first chair clarinet in my Junior High School usin= g this lazy approach before the gods and goddesses of rock and roll=20 stole me away (and before I could get my ass kicked by a more sophisticated= high school music teacher ) I fell in love with the drumset (and girls!) at the onset of puberty and la= ter ethnic percussion and that was the end of melody and harmony=20 for me for many, many years to come. When sampling and midi=A0 began to happen in a reasonably affordable way (r= e: Radio Shack Casio samplers)=A0 I was extremely=20 excited by it's prospects as I had already developed a great love for exoti= c drum machine and analogue drum synthesizer sounds=20 in modern music. I realized that I could use an Octapad 80 (an 8 note, sophisticated and pro= gammable midi drum stick=20 controller) as a virtual modal log drum.=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 I then beg= an to learn tons of world music scales in earnest and began progamming=20 them into my beloved AKAI S950 (the last great 12 bit sampler and the first= good one I was ever able to afford) and I realized that=20 I tended naturally to like modal and scalar kinds of music (re: ethnic musi= c) far more than more complex western harmonic=20 approaches to melody and harmony.=A0=A0=A0 Like an African Baliphone,=A0 th= ere were no wrong notes on it.=A0=A0 I liked this! When I finally bought my first Lexicon Jamman in '95,=A0 suddenly,=A0 I rea= lized that it would be efficacious to start learning=20 monophonic and chordally based instruments (and found sounds) just so that = I could start very modestly adding more interesting melodic=20 and timbral elements to my mostly percussive based loops...........that led= me to begin to try and understand fretted, blown=20 and hammered instruments and the ways they used scales. Then I got bored with my limited knowledge of modal and scalar approaches a= nd I began to learn modern harmony in a more formal way to=20 try and extract more interesting results from my modest little melodic excu= rsions. Anway,=A0 this led me, by way of=A0 fretless string instruments and bansuri= flute,=A0 to begin to think of all scales as being alterations=20 of the common greek modes (just for sheer speed in learning)...............= ..and then think of these scales in terms of sets=20 (5,6,7 and even 8 note scales).=A0=A0=A0 Furthermore,=A0 I began to notice = that most scales tended to have certain key notes in them=20 that usually (but certainly not always) reflected the physics of music,=A0 = like the 5th (2nd harmonic) and some kind of 3rd (again,=20 not always).=A0 I also noticed that it would be the 'weaker' notes in the s= cale would be the ones that would be altered=20 by half or even quarter tones (like in the Maqams of the Arabic world). As an example of this approach,=A0 a pentatonic scale like the Indian rag= =A0 MADHU KAUNS (1=A0 b3=A0=A0 #4=A0=A0 5=A0=A0 b7) taught to me by Deepak = Ram, the bansuri flute master I would think of as being a=A0 Dorian mode with a sharp 4=A0 and minus the = 2nd and 6th degrees. At the same time during this process of learning, however,=A0 I had also be= en interested in found scales and microtonal scales really fascillitated by live looping where I could play a random set of pot= s and pans as a metallaphone .............all things constrained by whateve= r=20 the 'instrument' I was playing gave me. All of this led me to yesterday's experiments with the Toy Water Trumpet. 'Constrained Random Scale Approach' Thinking along these lines I filled the Water Trumpet (by merely holding it= under the water and letting the stream go into the individual chambers). and Then I randomly drained two of the chambers completely,=A0=A0 leaving m= yself with a random 'found'=A0 scale of three notes. Then I played them over and over and decided what the other two pitches sho= uld be and meticulously injected water into them=20 (with a cool little tool that allows for accurate tuning using the marks on= the side of the instrument) to tune them properly. By doing this I had truly created a found scale but I had added notes to ma= ke it more musical and versatile to my own ear. Along these lines I realized that one could take a guitar or five string ba= ss and use the same approach to create=20 a constrained random harp, if you will=20 I have experimented with randomly tuning four of my six strings on my recen= tly defretted strat, literally tuning the pegs until=20 tensioned from slack and then marking their location on the guitar.=A0 I th= en play them over and over again until I get a sense=20 for what the scale is I have stumbled upon.=A0=A0 Then I conciously add two= more strings in to the tuning to make it a complete=20 harp and improvise accordingly. You then play the instrument as a harp and not=A0 a fretable guitar........= ........you are forced into this new scale that is=20 partially out of your concious control and partially in your concious contr= ol. More experiments to come. --0-1821050798-1224959896=:42805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
hey=20 guys ..in your opinion ...whats a must have Brian Eno recording?.

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22
Johnston, IA  50131
 
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten 
http://www.myspace.com/kyledeanpatten   
Cool thoughts.  Thanks for sharing your ideas and your internal process.
JK

--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
Subject: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 10:21 AM

I've flashed on a fun and I think new approach to scalar playing today,  goofing
around with this Toy Water Trumpet that I just bought (see previous post).

I think it will make more sense if I  explain the history of where I'm coming
from, aesthetically, before I describe it.

In retrospect, I realize it's a bit wordy but I enjoyed reminiscing to write it.
Just skip down to 'Constrained Random Scale Approach'  if you don't feel
like wading through the verbiage and personal aesthetic history.

to whit:

My knowledge of scales didn't come from a typical western approach.   I took formal music lessons and played piano, cello and clarinet
as a child (parentally induced lessons from 5-13 years old) but I had a talented ear for intervals and I could usually remember a melody if
it was played for me so I faked my teachers into thinking I had learned how to read when I , indeed, never had..
I made it all the way to first chair clarinet in my Junior High School using this lazy approach before the gods and goddesses of rock and roll
stole me away (and before I could get my ass kicked by a more sophisticated high school music teacher <smile>)

I fell in love with the drumset (and girls!) at the onset of puberty and later ethnic percussion and that was the end of melody and harmony
for me for many, many years to come.

When sampling and midi  began to happen in a reasonably affordable way (re: Radio Shack Casio samplers)  I was extremely
excited by it's prospects as I had already developed a great love for exotic drum machine and analogue drum synthesizer sounds
in modern music.

I realized that I could use an Octapad 80 (an 8 note, sophisticated and progammable midi drum stick
controller) as a virtual modal log drum.         I then began to learn tons of world music scales in earnest and began progamming
them into my beloved AKAI S950 (the last great 12 bit sampler and the first good one I was ever able to afford) and I realized that
I tended naturally to like modal and scalar kinds of music (re: ethnic music) far more than more complex western harmonic
approaches to melody and harmony.    Like an African Baliphone,  there were no wrong notes on it.   I liked this!

When I finally bought my first Lexicon Jamman in '95,  suddenly,  I realized that it would be efficacious to start learning
monophonic and chordally based instruments (and found sounds) just so that I could start very modestly adding more interesting melodic
and timbral elements to my mostly percussive based loops...........that led me to begin to try and understand fretted, blown
and hammered instruments and the ways they used scales.

Then I got bored with my limited knowledge of modal and scalar approaches and I began to learn modern harmony in a more formal way to
try and extract more interesting results from my modest little melodic excursions.

Anway,  this led me, by way of  fretless string instruments and bansuri flute,  to begin to think of all scales as being alterations
of the common greek modes (just for sheer speed in learning).................and then think of these scales in terms of sets
(5,6,7 and even 8 note scales).    Furthermore,  I began to notice that most scales tended to have certain key notes in them
that usually (but certainly not always) reflected the physics of music,  like the 5th (2nd harmonic) and some kind of 3rd (again,
not always).  I also noticed that it would be the 'weaker' notes in the scale would be the ones that would be altered
by half or even quarter tones (like in the Maqams of the Arabic world).

As an example of this approach,  a pentatonic scale like the Indian rag  MADHU KAUNS (1  b3   #4   5   b7) taught to me by Deepak Ram, the bansuri flute master
I would think of as being a  Dorian mode with a sharp 4  and minus the 2nd and 6th degrees.

At the same time during this process of learning, however,  I had also been interested in found scales and microtonal scales
really fascillitated by live looping where I could play a random set of pots and pans as a metallaphone .............all things constrained by whatever
the 'instrument' I was playing gave me.

All of this led me to yesterday's experiments with the Toy Water Trumpet.

'Constrained Random Scale Approach'

Thinking along these lines I filled the Water Trumpet (by merely holding it under the water and letting the stream go into the individual chambers).
and Then I randomly drained two of the chambers completely,   leaving myself with a random 'found'  scale of three notes.
Then I played them over and over and decided what the other two pitches should be and meticulously injected water into them
(with a cool little tool that allows for accurate tuning using the marks on the side of the instrument) to tune them properly.

By doing this I had truly created a found scale but I had added notes to make it more musical and versatile to my own ear.

Along these lines I realized that one could take a guitar or five string bass and use the same approach to create
a constrained random harp, if you will

I have experimented with randomly tuning four of my six strings on my recently defretted strat, literally tuning the pegs until
tensioned from slack and then marking their location on the guitar.  I then play them over and over again until I get a sense
for what the scale is I have stumbled upon.   Then I conciously add two more strings in to the tuning to make it a complete
harp and improvise accordingly.

You then play the instrument as a harp and not  a fretable guitar................you are forced into this new scale that is
partially out of your concious control and partially in your concious control.

More experiments to come.

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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT Myspace Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:28:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:28:53 +0000 (UTC) Hmmmm . . . that's very odd. I'm logged-in and posting and navigating around MySpace just fine today. I must be holding my mouse just right. Best regards, Ted Killian "I=92ve gotten the scary feeling, for the first time in my life, that=20 dimwittedness is not just on the march in the U.S., but that it might=20 actually prevail." -- Bob Herbert, New York Times On Oct 25, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account? > =A0 > thanks > =A0 > Jeff= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 19:30:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DE0E3BE8F; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--304867954 Message-Id: <612C2CBE-073D-456D-A726-99AFFEAF833A@ubergadget.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Zombie Soundtrack Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:29:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,HTML_MESSAGE, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,WHOIS_NETSOLPR autolearn=failed version=3.2.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on 216-55-168-226.dedicated.abac.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:30:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--304867954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Oct 25, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Lomas wrote: > A colleague bought a box set of pirated zombie movies from a street > vendor and we have been > watching them just about non-stop for the last three days. You have > probably also been wondering who would win in a fight between a shark > and a zombie. While zombies are a real terror on land, the > undead are completely out of their element when in water. So if you > are ever being attacked by a zombie, just go swimming and everything > will be OK. Just watch out for the sharks. > > Zombies are also very bad at farming and spatial orientation, but > really love to rock out at the high school prom. Zombies are also > messy eaters. > > The soundtrack to Rise of the Undead, composed by Maximilian Kabong, > is some really good stuff. I feel like I can speak authoritatively on > the subject of zombie file scores when I say that this score is > arguably the best one out there. > > Hasta, > Jeff > Jefflomas.com LUCIO FULCI and GEORGE A. ROMERO ROCK! Best wishes, Rev Fever http://www.spiritone.com/~rvfever/ --Apple-Mail-2--304867954 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct = 25, 2008, at 12:03 PM, Jeff Lomas wrote:

A colleague bought a box set of pirated zombie = movies from a street
vendor and we have = been
watching them just about = non-stop for the last three days.=A0= You have
probably also been wondering who = would win in a fight between a shark
and a = zombie.=A0 While zombies = are a real terror on land, the
undead are = completely out of their element when in water.=A0 So if you
are ever being attacked by a zombie, just go = swimming and everything
will be OK. = Just watch out for the sharks.

Zombies are also very bad at = farming and spatial orientation, but
really love = to rock out at the high school prom.=A0 Zombies are also
messy eaters.

The soundtrack to Rise of the = Undead, composed by Maximilian Kabong,
is some = really good stuff.=A0 I = feel like I can speak authoritatively on
the = subject of zombie file scores when I say that this score is
arguably the best one out there.

Jeff
Jefflomas.com

LUCIO = FULCI and GEORGE A. ROMERO ROCK!

Best = wishes,

= --Apple-Mail-2--304867954-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 19:34:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62C843BE91; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gp/E/zy4lpXuKgpHsfR2LPa5TxzkxEG6cPpJCfB2RHg=; b=LBuInGDXmMWLQlA1uBnycDIX29cA6VUYGJaR5qF+a4Na9GPGFC0kWk3Yal8HWB5gVB ED1ploYAInfQvNjeox4No5wH0allttEJtRIOyshDHt3ylzFEGGn4R1+eVdHI6y17O91s TkpTIzVF5Wh70T9uC+sRyAkaRJ0W/kPj/NXdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=bGYqggjdwf2Q4y1sxkUnKKvtJOHT36HgE7coEarWTacSK4iNBbC1BQ5J80pt45T8nq ux0U49yNgN7NpZokx2P6cKAuv4XaOtjRRg1pkoEKs5AlFpueE3FXKm8IQKXuWjXXBLRY oSWOYL9qm0kuDgMo5cog1hSKOwIuXF/BIhruM= Message-ID: <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:34:12 -0700 From: "Nevyn Nowhere" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Myspace In-Reply-To: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6764_29218774.1224963252881" References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:34:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6764_29218774.1224963252881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for every login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't even been logged into for a few weeks). They have overloaded their servers. Dumbshits. Nevyn Nowhere http://www.happyhumans.org Sad Music for Happy Humans On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account? > > thanks > > Jeff > ------=_Part_6764_29218774.1224963252881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for every login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't even been logged into for a few weeks).

They have overloaded their servers.

Dumbshits.

Nevyn Nowhere
http://www.happyhumans.org
Sad Music for Happy Humans

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account?
 
thanks
 
Jeff

------=_Part_6764_29218774.1224963252881-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 19:35:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 131963BE97; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=QZlVqLyhfqoxS9m0JsmEFHRgjsaeCmclGCWuyyXwFcw=; b=l7aqL18EyYCigrsdkMIlSA0P46AnnBMHMIKEA46UzIyJTvpYGYa0iP/bsEibnrNRhR oAGiuOzEQe4S+RP5BPGyGekroxWkk/1IVxONazQUYXygKZyPbdWIQsIPxiogtVNdo/p/ on2lCZzZsuO59JLwqRAeKYGZXukbe73/Z2DYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DlX+EEHEtvyD3lHLs5nuIbiO4RbSAg/BfiI4SDYT5IaiL1z0ISsx4lwhcYYxzPm3Td zZHNr04173uejYzTIWA+hw83dyc0ZCGeVYQ6eIZgcvUvWUJgw3TmxVIb4D8OOWvK/jc2 PSrVAFd7pb11W5VY2lw/+Qe41455sRefAvPK0= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810251235y3ca7432eo86149e8fc8ff7ea0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:35:33 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION In-Reply-To: <527076.42805.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6021_11513420.1224963333480" References: <49035591.1080309@cruzio.com> <527076.42805.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: a2aa101c8ee9767e Resent-Message-ID: <5d0-J.A.ZiB.GU3AJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:35:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6021_11513420.1224963333480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Rick, I too enjoyed your thought on scales. I am reminded of a late 80=B4s early nineties band that my band at the time supported. Not reminded enough to actually remember their name.. it may come, during this typage...(something like World Destruction) anyway, the guitarist was famous for having randomly tuned his guitar one day, and like= d it enough to continue to do everything in this "scale". As NONE of the strings were in anyway harmonically associated, by semitones, the only way he could perform night after night was to have a recording of him twanging the strings, so he could tune up to it! I loved the band! I guess maybe the= y were a bit like Melt Banana (cool Jap noise punk combo), kind of Noise, but tight and discordant (surprise surprise). (The name had 3 words tho, what was it what was it, World Domination Enterprises... no.. not quite... getting close tho) I have a simerlar story to tell. (Piano from 4 years old, rising to grade 8= , actually COULD read music) then came Punk, Guitars and girls, forgot the lot!!! I quickly learnt a basic "Blues Scale" No idead what its REALLY called, its kinda minor scale with added BLUE notes. I added new notes, and removed some, on occasion. To this day this is the only scale I play or know, I have never learned what Dorian means or what diminished means. All = I know is that My scale can be played over a few different keys, with different sounds. If a chord sequence is in A and I play the scale/melody starting at the A fret, its this normal version, BUT if I play the scale/melody at the D fret, it works, but is different sounding... same goe= s at the G fret and the E fret... With all these possibilities, Ive never DREAMED of learning anything new!!!! I did a google, band WAS World Domination Enterprises... but when i listened on YouTube, they wernt as awe inspiring as I remember, and nothing like Melt Banana, (who ARE worth a listen)... damn... well it was a period somewhat spiced by er... spices for me... remember kids, just say no... M On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Jonathan Kessler wrote= : > Cool thoughts. Thanks for sharing your ideas and your internal process. > JK > > --- On *Sat, 10/25/08, Rick Walker * wrote: > > From: Rick Walker > Subject: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 10:21 AM > > > I've flashed on a fun and I think new approach to scalar playing today, > goofing > around with this Toy Water Trumpet that I just bought (see previous post)= . > > I think it will make more sense if I explain the history of where I'm > coming > from, aesthetically, before I describe it. > > In retrospect, I realize it's a bit wordy but I enjoyed reminiscing to > write it. > Just skip down to 'Constrained Random Scale Approach' if you don't feel > like wading through the verbiage and personal aesthetic history. > > to whit: > > My knowledge of scales didn't come from a typical western approach. I > took formal music lessons and played piano, cello and clarinet > as a child (parentally induced lessons from 5-13 years old) but I had a > talented ear for intervals and I could usually remember a melody if > it was played for me so I faked my teachers into thinking I had learned h= ow > to read when I , indeed, never had.. > I made it all the way to first chair clarinet in my Junior High School > using this lazy approach before the gods and goddesses of rock and roll > stole me away (and before I could get my ass kicked by a more sophisticat= ed > high school music teacher ) > > I fell in love with the drumset (and girls!) at the onset of puberty and > later ethnic percussion and that was the end of melody and harmony > for me for many, many years to come. > > When sampling and midi began to happen in a reasonably affordable way (r= e: > Radio Shack Casio samplers) I was extremely > excited by it's prospects as I had already developed a great love for > exotic drum machine and analogue drum synthesizer sounds > in modern music. > > I realized that I could use an Octapad 80 (an 8 note, sophisticated and > progammable midi drum stick > controller) as a virtual modal log drum. I then began to learn to= ns > of world music scales in earnest and began progamming > them into my beloved AKAI S950 (the last great 12 bit sampler and the fir= st > good one I was ever able to afford) and I realized that > I tended naturally to like modal and scalar kinds of music (re: ethnic > music) far more than more complex western harmonic > approaches to melody and harmony. Like an African Baliphone, there we= re > no wrong notes on it. I liked this! > > When I finally bought my first Lexicon Jamman in '95, suddenly, I > realized that it would be efficacious to start learning > monophonic and chordally based instruments (and found sounds) just so tha= t > I could start very modestly adding more interesting melodic > and timbral elements to my mostly percussive based loops...........that l= ed > me to begin to try and understand fretted, blown > and hammered instruments and the ways they used scales. > > Then I got bored with my limited knowledge of modal and scalar approaches > and I began to learn modern harmony in a more formal way to > try and extract more interesting results from my modest little melodic > excursions. > > Anway, this led me, by way of fretless string instruments and bansuri > flute, to begin to think of all scales as being alterations > of the common greek modes (just for sheer speed in > learning).................and then think of these scales in terms of sets > (5,6,7 and even 8 note scales). Furthermore, I began to notice that > most scales tended to have certain key notes in them > that usually (but certainly not always) reflected the physics of music, > like the 5th (2nd harmonic) and some kind of 3rd (again, > not always). I also noticed that it would be the 'weaker' notes in the > scale would be the ones that would be altered > by half or even quarter tones (like in the Maqams of the Arabic world). > > As an example of this approach, a pentatonic scale like the Indian rag > MADHU KAUNS (1 b3 #4 5 b7) taught to me by Deepak Ram, the bansuri > flute master > I would think of as being a Dorian mode with a sharp 4 and minus the 2n= d > and 6th degrees. > > At the same time during this process of learning, however, I had also be= en > interested in found scales and microtonal scales > really fascillitated by live looping where I could play a random set of > pots and pans as a metallaphone .............all things constrained by > whatever > the 'instrument' I was playing gave me. > > All of this led me to yesterday's experiments with the Toy Water Trumpet. > > 'Constrained Random Scale Approach' > > Thinking along these lines I filled the Water Trumpet (by merely holding = it > under the water and letting the stream go into the individual chambers). > and Then I randomly drained two of the chambers completely, leaving > myself with a random 'found' scale of three notes. > Then I played them over and over and decided what the other two pitches > should be and meticulously injected water into them > (with a cool little tool that allows for accurate tuning using the marks = on > the side of the instrument) to tune them properly. > > By doing this I had truly created a found scale but I had added notes to > make it more musical and versatile to my own ear. > > Along these lines I realized that one could take a guitar or five string > bass and use the same approach to create > a constrained random harp, if you will > > I have experimented with randomly tuning four of my six strings on my > recently defretted strat, literally tuning the pegs until > tensioned from slack and then marking their location on the guitar. I th= en > play them over and over again until I get a sense > for what the scale is I have stumbled upon. Then I conciously add two > more strings in to the tuning to make it a complete > harp and improvise accordingly. > > You then play the instrument as a harp and not a fretable > guitar................you are forced into this new scale that is > partially out of your concious control and partially in your concious > control. > > More experiments to come. > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_6021_11513420.1224963333480 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Thanks Rick, I too enjoyed your thought on scales.

I am reminded of = a late 80=B4s early nineties band that my band at the time supported. Not r= eminded enough to actually remember their name.. it may come, during this t= ypage...(something like World Destruction) anyway, the guitarist was famous= for having randomly tuned his guitar one day, and liked it enough to conti= nue to do everything in this "scale". As NONE of the strings were= in anyway harmonically associated, by semitones, the only way he could per= form night after night was to have a recording of him twanging the strings,= so he could tune up to it! I loved the band! I guess maybe they were a bit= like Melt Banana (cool Jap noise punk combo), kind of Noise, but tight and= discordant (surprise surprise). (The name had 3 words tho, what was it wha= t was it, World Domination Enterprises... no.. not quite... getting close t= ho)

I have a simerlar story to tell. (Piano from 4 years old, rising to gra= de 8, actually COULD read music) then came Punk, Guitars and girls, forgot = the lot!!! I quickly learnt a basic "Blues Scale" No idead what i= ts REALLY called, its kinda minor scale with added BLUE notes. I added new = notes, and removed some, on occasion. To this day this is the only scale I = play or know, I have never learned what Dorian means or what diminished mea= ns. All I know is that My scale can be played over a few different keys, wi= th different sounds. If a chord sequence is in A and I play the scale/melod= y starting at the A fret, its this normal version, BUT if I play the scale/= melody at the D fret, it works, but is different sounding... same goes at t= he G fret and the E fret... With all these possibilities, Ive never DREAMED= of learning anything new!!!!

I did a google, band WAS World Domination Enterprises... but when = i listened on YouTube, they wernt as awe inspiring as I remember, and noth= ing like Melt Banana, (who ARE worth a listen)... damn... well it was a per= iod somewhat spiced by er... spices for me... remember kids, just say no...=

M



On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:3= 8 PM, Jonathan Kessler <kesslari@yahoo.com> wrote:
Cool thoughts.  Thanks for sharing your ideas and your internal p= rocess.
JK

--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
From: Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com>
Subject: CONSTR= AINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION
To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= .com>
Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 10:21 AM
<= div class=3D"Wj3C7c">

I've flashed on a fun and I think new approach to scalar playing t= oday,  goofing
around with this Toy Water Trumpet that I just boug= ht (see previous post).

I think it will make more sense if I  e= xplain the history of where I'm coming
from, aesthetically, before I describe it.

In retrospect, I realize = it's a bit wordy but I enjoyed reminiscing to write it.
Just skip do= wn to 'Constrained Random Scale Approach'  if you don't fe= el
like wading through the verbiage and personal aesthetic history.

to = whit:

My knowledge of scales didn't come from a typical western = approach.   I took formal music lessons and played piano, cello a= nd clarinet
as a child (parentally induced lessons from 5-13 years old) but I had a tal= ented ear for intervals and I could usually remember a melody if
it was= played for me so I faked my teachers into thinking I had learned how to re= ad when I , indeed, never had..
I made it all the way to first chair clarinet in = my Junior High School using this lazy approach before the gods and goddesse= s of rock and roll
stole me away (and before I could get my ass kicked = by a more sophisticated high school music teacher <smile>)

I fell in love with the drumset (and girls!) at the onset of puberty an= d later ethnic percussion and that was the end of melody and harmony
fo= r me for many, many years to come.

When sampling and midi  bega= n to happen in a reasonably affordable way (re: Radio Shack Casio samplers)=   I was extremely
excited by it's prospects as I had already developed a great love for e= xotic drum machine and analogue drum synthesizer sounds
in modern music= .

I realized that I could use an Octapad 80 (an 8 note, sophisticate= d and progammable midi drum stick
controller) as a virtual modal log drum.      = ;   I then began to learn tons of world music scales in earnest and began prog= amming
them into my beloved AKAI S950 (the last great 12 bit sampler an= d the first good one I was ever able to afford) and I realized that
I tended naturally to like modal and scalar kinds of music (re: ethnic musi= c) far more than more complex western harmonic
approaches to melody and= harmony.    Like an African Baliphone,  there were no = wrong notes on it.   I liked this!

When I finally bought my first Lexicon Jamman in '95,  suddenl= y,  I realized that it would be efficacious to start learning
mono= phonic and chordally based instruments (and found sounds) just so that I co= uld start very modestly adding more interesting melodic
and timbral elements to my mostly percussive based loops...........that led= me to begin to try and understand fretted, blown
and hammered instrume= nts and the ways they used scales.

Then I got bored with my limited knowledge of modal and sca= lar approaches and I began to learn modern harmony in a more formal way to =
try and extract more interesting results from my modest little melodic = excursions.

Anway,  this led me, by way of  fretless string instruments a= nd bansuri flute,  to begin to think of all scales as being alteration= s
of the common greek modes (just for sheer speed in learning).........= ........and then think of these scales in terms of sets
(5,6,7 and even 8 note scales).    Furthermore,  I bega= n to notice that most scales tended to have certain key notes in them
t= hat usually (but certainly not always) reflected the physics of music, = ; like the 5th (2nd harmonic) and some kind of 3rd (again,
not always).  I also noticed that it would be the 'weaker' not= es in the scale would be the ones that would be altered
by half or even= quarter tones (like in the Maqams of the Arabic world).

As an example of th= is approach,  a pentatonic scale like the Indian rag  MADHU KAUNS= (1  b3   #4   5   b7) taught to me by D= eepak Ram, the bansuri flute master
I would think of as being a  Do= rian mode with a sharp 4  and minus the 2nd and 6th degrees.

At the same time during this process of learning, however,  I had = also been interested in found scales and microtonal scales
really fascil= litated by live looping where I could play a random set of pots and pans as= a metallaphone .............all things constrained by whatever
the 'instrument' I was playing gave me.

All of this led me t= o yesterday's experiments with the Toy Water Trumpet.

'Const= rained Random Scale Approach'

Thinking along these lines I fille= d the Water Trumpet (by merely holding it under the water and letting the s= tream go into the individual chambers).
and Then I randomly drained two of the chambers c= ompletely,   leaving myself with a random 'found'  s= cale of three notes.
Then I played them over and over and decided what t= he other two pitches should be and meticulously injected water into them (with a cool little tool that allows for accurate tuning using the marks on= the side of the instrument) to tune them properly.

By doing this I = had truly created a found scale but I had added notes to make it more music= al and versatile to my own ear.

Along these lines I realized that one could take a guitar or five strin= g bass and use the same approach to create
a constrained random harp, i= f you will

I have experimented with randomly tuning four of my six = strings on my recently defretted strat, literally tuning the pegs until tensioned from slack and then marking their location on the guitar.  I= then play them over and over again until I get a sense
for what the scale is I have stumbled upon. &= nbsp; Then I conciously add two more strings in to the tuning to make it a = complete
harp and improvise accordingly.

You then play the instr= ument as a harp and not  a fretable guitar................you are forc= ed into this new scale that is
partially out of your concious control and partially in your concious contr= ol.

More experiments to come.

=



-- <= br> www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/user/= markfrancombe
http:= //www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no
------=_Part_6021_11513420.1224963333480-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 19:42:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 626093BE98; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224963720; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=LKraZAhd9mUp4mpXPOTPPgA3tMQ=; b=UBxMDS0Gv6bni9NlYb9VVCqdhEsZOyJhsEBfNrWtqb/yrUxE0WN4XT8atHwTuF6k K022RXVWMpufqGZXCnzTj/zM7/1kLM0ER6xR7AFBzFesK6tRQj1oNyPMmNUw8QRA; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4d5DnW5yAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=zymexHNGKTBdZPnvL1wA:9 a=o_kjQHJMv6Odf5J-KXAA:7 a=NdI7uM4WR-HzbiOi-Pd1Xbq44c4A:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=72oxJoRhc8oA:10 a=t5DzmXsAp8n9xXgPUa8A:9 a=Ch8-HCN8rqaOnLFztScA:7 a=DiWi_yRDstpCgiCcArs7eTISaS4A:4 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp06.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <002801c936d9$75f7ff80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT Myspace Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:39:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01C936B7.EE634CD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:42:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C936B7.EE634CD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Me too, then it locked me out for 5 wrong tries! Now I can't even see = the captcha. Hmmm, Reverb Nation?=20 j ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nevyn Nowhere=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: OT Myspace Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for = every login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't even = been logged into for a few weeks). They have overloaded their servers.=20 Dumbshits. Nevyn Nowhere http://www.happyhumans.org Sad Music for Happy Humans On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Jeff Duke = wrote: Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account? thanks Jeff -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1745 - Release Date: = 10/25/2008 9:53 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C936B7.EE634CD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Me too, then it locked me out for 5 = wrong tries!=20 Now I can't even see the captcha. Hmmm, Reverb Nation?
 
j
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nevyn=20 Nowhere
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, October 25, = 2008 3:34=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT Myspace

Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a = captcha=20 for every login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't = even=20 been logged into for a few weeks).

They have overloaded their = servers.=20

Dumbshits.

Nevyn Nowhere
http://www.happyhumans.org
Sad= Music=20 for Happy Humans

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Jeff Duke = <jeff_d@embarqmail.com>=20 wrote:
Anyone else having a problem = logging into their=20 myspace account?
 
thanks
 
Jeff


No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG = -=20 http://www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1745 = -=20 Release Date: 10/25/2008 9:53 AM
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C936B7.EE634CD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 20:21:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8B243BE8A; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ma/eyRPisl7+W3Sfg9fwGd0qqALfZ7pF3BV46C2+6FU=; b=EOZajEO5mRwZaaxYAjKTfOzsH5GBLaPKg0gNdcegKyeB0fxRmQ2G+zaFw2ndsz4gYJ MDjoVHsA8ybFwC4yRQyPGofe3CTOLWhHYWma2ssvbs4ooGs8HYyJQ6mqle22WoNchfe8 Vg6kYmsqU7gMmRgAhduamw9oF9lqodL1MkOuo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IzeXXpzfG1qvUaMTaRDWUpbiUa0Gw0hZJL0i/VeCnb7VbzCjBSLK5S8qJ237BaHh6v hhNpca9NvRWu+2a+eYxuyla9/uepPQ0qWFbuxRP1G1Cne/1xY4zkaEwYbir8wNINK9eu fVpqkF3r1bM8b0Cjnf5alCOSgCZ1P+mP2rICw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810251321s287f244bv4067954134bc5922@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:21:33 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810251235y3ca7432eo86149e8fc8ff7ea0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49035591.1080309@cruzio.com> <527076.42805.qm@web110310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <9ab0c76f0810251235y3ca7432eo86149e8fc8ff7ea0@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:21:35 +0000 (UTC) I think the coolest thing is when you learn a scale in the way that you develop a personal relation to it. Then you hear and play the scales just as naturally as you hear or play a simple note. First time this actually dawned on me was in 1981 when I had a two guitars, bas n drum jazz quartet that played sort of Pat Metheny inspired songs that we wrote directly for this band. The other guitarist was incredibly fast to play scales, while I had always focused on tone and intonation. Anyway, when he played different scales in that super speed the music just looked as color clouds in the air to me and I realized the color was the scale. Obviously this happened to me because he played so fast that it was physically impossible to hear each note - so I was sort of forced into listening to the flow of the notes instead. A great revelation it was! :-) Some years later I read about John Coltrane having this experience when hearing the harp being played and smiled to myself as I was reading... It's really a universal phenomenon. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 20:24:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C8A73BE88; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20081025202455641.9CA7770000B6@mwinf2f12.orange.fr Message-Id: From: doc rossi To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002801c936d9$75f7ff80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-23--301526581 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: OT Myspace X-Priority: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:24:52 +0200 References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> <002801c936d9$75f7ff80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:24:58 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-23--301526581 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I rebooted my browser and it was fine On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:39 PM, Jeff Duke wrote: > Me too, then it locked me out for 5 wrong tries! Now I can't even > see the captcha. Hmmm, Reverb Nation? > > j > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nevyn Nowhere > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:34 PM > Subject: Re: OT Myspace > > Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for > every login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't > even been logged into for a few weeks). > > They have overloaded their servers. > > Dumbshits. > > Nevyn Nowhere > http://www.happyhumans.org > Sad Music for Happy Humans > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Jeff Duke > wrote: > Anyone else having a problem logging into their myspace account? > > thanks > > Jeff > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1745 - Release Date: > 10/25/2008 9:53 AM --Apple-Mail-23--301526581 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I rebooted my browser and it = was fine

On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:39 PM, Jeff Duke = wrote:

Me too, then it locked me out for 5 wrong = tries! Now I can't even see the captcha. Hmmm, Reverb = Nation?
 
j
 
----- = Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 = 3:34 PM
 Re: = OT Myspace

Those morons are now making everyone who = logs in type a captcha for every login (I had to on all 3 of my = accounts, one of which hadn't even been logged into for a few = weeks).

They have overloaded their servers. 

Dumbshits.

Nev= yn Nowhere
http://www.happyhumans.org
Sad = Music for Happy Humans

On Sat, Oct 25, = 2008 at 11:21 AM, Jeff Duke <jeff_d@embarqmail.com> wrote:
Anyone else having a problem logging into = their myspace account?
 
thanks
 
Jeff




No virus found in this = incoming message.
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 
Version: 8.0.175 / = Virus Database: 270.8.3/1745 - Release Date: 10/25/2008 9:53 = AM

= --Apple-Mail-23--301526581-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 20:28:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DB513BE88; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:28:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JtI+bOYgMdhvCJIiTk4uajq3r0dHoX3mHti8F6+1yMA=; b=pvU5m7VQcjN4me9R6G64Pnjdy2EbRHagtII6Vz6lFa7Cj9/eaOWA27CXVsOhTm3Pe6 3UzX2d0H69rh8esuLYBvgJxEIH89sjPGNX6DQDb9lE6ZHSpQq9CMyhs3jIP/omeQuiO2 7H19MobHsJLKSQjyxZvM4/nkUILg7NkJtDasU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=evP+6Rkto9nNl26TC82SjMKwRkBb7U+ElxN7QfLRwlWrr5U2xMoEPOiG6LSzsIelJY vcn1qNOB96mCUaR84dk0Knclr+htYsxSmKEp6RNviblIB0uxyk58bhngwyShtx0564XJ GlFwMG+SNF4CWwHxWxuHrK32L2O5SFAaGTh8E= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810251328s3930036ag61a36dd6fdf51e7d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:28:18 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Myspace In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> <002801c936d9$75f7ff80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:28:20 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM, doc rossi wrote: > I rebooted my browser and it was fine And I did not reboot my browser - and it was still fine! ;-) Obviously the server service work is finished by now. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 20:44:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A88863BE85; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:44:07 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=SzugcjZSvWcYhzTA9daVSesUTZzJjuzVl5hBCOCRYZem/4YBa/f4H+6hMfBHB3ZrhIWiemasgvXLPEHk2MOPF8h9w7dEMpI+85YDFvkig3SSVYqdamNAmle+WIYsJ3aI; Message-ID: <20081025153722.oowtvk89hc0g4ks4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:37:22 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2k8 References: <1811708201-1224888549-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308811292-@bxe279.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> In-Reply-To: <1811708201-1224888549-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308811292-@bxe279.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Quoting kalimbaman7@yahoo.com: > > I want to publicly thank Rick Walker and everyone who attended this =20 > years Y2k Looping Festival for the incredible memories that will =20 > stay with me forever. Thanks Rick for your graciousness, =20 > hospitality, giving and the conversations about music (at 3 o'clock =20 > in the morning)!! In you I've gained a brother. Thanks Krispen =20 > for your profound generosity and both you and Rick for ushering me =20 > into the software "world", since I've always been a hardwire type =20 > of guy......Luis Angulo your musical gift is vast and deeper than =20 > you know. Enjoyed creating powerful music with you "In Rick's shed" =20 > Literally! Luis we have great things to accompolish. Thanks to Glen =20 > and many others who made my stay in Santa Cruz incredible. =20 > "KalimbaMan" > I first heard Kevin "KalimbaMan" perform at the Electro-music festival =20 and his performance there and at the loopfest was excellent. I think =20 anyone who heard him would agree that Kevin is one of those performers =20 who has smoothly integrated looping into his performance. The lineup of musicians was superb and I enjoyed listening to the =20 newbies as well as the experienced loopers. There were many highlights this year and if I try to mention them all, =20 I'm sure that I will forget someone then feel really bad for the =20 oversight. One thing that stood out is that I don't think I've ever seen some =20 many shapes and sizes of guitars! For me (a non-guitar player) this =20 was fascinating. I enjoyed seeing the chapman stick -- it is a rather =20 amazing instrument. Was fun to watch "Chinapainting" manipulate the cassette loops. The uber-loud feedback loop (produced with BIG tube amps) was fun, =20 too... thanks for the earplugs! :) I listened from the hallway most =20 of the time... I really wanted to stay in the room but I needed to =20 "save" my ears to play the theremin later. Next time, if this set =20 follows mine, I look forward to staying in the room and letting the =20 vibrations run wild! Rick's set on Saturday, performed with day-glow orange props with =20 blacklighting, was lots of fun. And, he incorporated a couple of toys =20 into the set (where did he buy those vibrating toys, anyway ?? =20 **grins**). The prepared electric piano set was as much fun to watch as it was to =20 hear. I liked the "pops" and "sizzles" that came from the piano. I =20 could almost smell fried circuit boards. Oh, how sweet! And then there were instruments that produced the unexpected -- a wind =20 controller that sounded like percussion and keyboard, Matt's setup =20 where he makes his drum machine sound NOT like a drum machine. Was good to see and hear Margaret's set. I heard her at electro-music =20 2007. She keeps changing her "sound" from year to year. Wonder what =20 she'll do next time? Wish I could have spent more time in Santa Cruz... next year I hope to =20 have more time to "hang around" with my fellow loopers. This year Rick suggested that I improvise ... so I gave it a try. The =20 theremin presents some issues because one can't really hit a pedal or =20 touch a button while playing (any extraneous movement upsets the =20 pitch). The other issue is that the theremin's attack is relatively =20 slow and it can be hard to hear the precise location of the "beat". =20 My plan is to incorporate some other instrument into my looping -- =20 perhaps a small keyboard synth that will allow me to lay down patterns =20 that are a little "punchier" over which I can add theremin lines. This opens up another challenge -- that is, how to travel light via =20 airline. My equipment setup was rather minimal but it still cost me =20 40 extra bucks each way to fly with it (maybe I'll drive next year and =20 then I can bring whatever I want). Well, hope everyone is doing well. I enjoyed seeing and hearing =20 everyone and hope to see everyone again next year! -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 20:54:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F6443BE8B; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=JljylKTKz/rekspMH876pjtS6d9g7TbsnFr0UGHPyUg=; b=nHVJiKiluq6k0TLuk1J59XX8RjnKTFYdh7AAAFRwYa3/OMnk7CXCesSaGby0gG/9iM K44vy0UZP4CP6hwH9OTTenastN3YZIKRy8Iukf/chozgQi8+sDPHEfWI08cyB55nggAt 4c0bFKCEMSRJXr4OaEMmFNxHPuT/6s0qe2/Pw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=A/xh7WaRj9I8b2MHgAGB/apfWe+YiGKG7V4IijM+XAehKN0OOB8slB/zRpyarVBnfJ ySJCig/3tW9QbRMN2OLTfDk9u3ZNa0JLqYpGY37t2NifJP+wVaiQQ7EOsYqUzT2VOw57 +r9etWrf5LDSaQfNMEuu37Tt0Pu3ACEqLy2e0= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810251354n4fd26cd8r8d7a859c041334f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:54:08 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2k8 In-Reply-To: <20081025153722.oowtvk89hc0g4ks4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1811708201-1224888549-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308811292-@bxe279.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <20081025153722.oowtvk89hc0g4ks4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6vE8LD.A.MpF.xd4AJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:54:09 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 10:37 PM, wrote: > The > other issue is that the theremin's attack is relatively slow and it can be > hard to hear the precise location of the "beat". My plan is to incorporate > some other instrument into my looping -- perhaps a small keyboard synth that > will allow me to lay down patterns that are a little "punchier" over which I > can add theremin lines. Or you could add an effect pedal, a tremolo, a gate or a filter bank that does both, to run the thermin through. Now and then you could kick in the effect an have it chop up your theremin howlings into "punchier" chunks. Or "do the sus substitute thing" in the looper. That would not add much weight to your baggage ;-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 21:12:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A68BB3BE8A; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:13:01 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Re: OT: new Macbook =?ISO-8859-1?Q?w=EDthOUT_Firewire_=3A=28?= In-reply-to: <22953798.1224106335454.JavaMail.root@m05> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <49038BDD.2060400@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <20081015082000.23380@gmx.net> <66f9cc1e0810150215y125938d5kcbc6bf1bfa27890b@mail.gmail.com> <20081015113612.107630@gmx.net> <22953798.1224106335454.JavaMail.root@m05> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:12:45 +0000 (UTC) todd reynolds wrote: > A fellow musician colleague of mine mentioned that he has a 19.95 USD > cable which will allow him to run all his firewire 400 stuff off an > 800 bus. Yes, 800 is backward compatible with 400 using such a cable. > Might be worth a start in your research. Much better than waiting for > the more expensive Audio Driver folks to come out with their FW 800 units. RME Fireface 800 $1249 at If there is one, there are others or, at least, more to follow. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 21:55:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C89193BE89; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=EHXWYPxy68IMJlZgsI0adjD40NyTPG/jlgPrWn/Y4tH/LwSy58+HZJ2FYOemRBG7nBsoCc7Ao04Tyk62bq3Ex/IYigemHrIDT04IsI+8pgk+AaZ9eyWU7BUFHGoDL+v0/fpqbYrMxkruvwXFSQ3LY9xnGHDbLDUmJOR7Qq9WqQk=; X-YMail-OSG: vx7GLoAVM1lXq9xDQfX1Wj2hT_wGvrDF9nwfBloV4Xgat31InVddMy36rDAobdk_9WvzuQ9jie5xOVWNYsvziaR_MQjUDingyrw_jPdkL54T6.gjnyYIU11xZmN.cuknNoYcMz8WhAuIW06D_tth3pbeQdeZ0VJ0yMsXKRMpyrctTwHQkSGuD.vXRQapaYBNBNY56Wm8UA6bN5I- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 14:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2k8 To: Loopers Delight Cc: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <1811708201-1224888549-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308811292-@bxe279.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <396418.18603.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Thanx brother,i would also like to make everyone aware of kevin "calimbamans" talent if u want ot hear a soulful groovy experience hendrix type of calimba u definetly got to check him out!! Id like to also specially thank Rick his wife,as well as Bill and his lovely wife for putting up with us,Daryl for offering baggels in the morning and giving me a ride to the airport such a lovely fellow and everyone else who was involved in this project,the vibe of this event was amazing,i will dearly miss it and never forget it! warm regards to all of you Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 10/24/08, kalimbaman7@yahoo.com wrote: > From: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com > Subject: Y2k8 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 3:49 PM > I want to publicly thank Rick Walker and everyone who > attended this years Y2k Looping Festival for the incredible > memories that will stay with me forever. Thanks Rick for > your graciousness, hospitality, giving and the conversations > about music (at 3 o'clock in the morning)!! In you > I've gained a brother. Thanks Krispen for your > profound generosity and both you and Rick for ushering me > into the software "world", since I've always > been a hardwire type of guy......Luis Angulo your musical > gift is vast and deeper than you know. Enjoyed creating > powerful music with you "In Rick's shed" > Literally! Luis we have great things to accompolish. Thanks > to Glen and many others who made my stay in Santa Cruz > incredible. "KalimbaMan" > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 22:33:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8C753BE81; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <49039EA3.7070106@unguitar.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:33:07 +0200 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Echoplex printed manuals and 2 eproms Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi dears, as one of the results of some studio cleaning, I have here an original Echoplex manual, a Loop IV upgrade guide, both on original paper and 2 eproms marked "LD 3.32", one is "master" and the other one is "even master". In case someone would be interested in having these things, pplease pm me. I am asking no money for them, I just don't want to throw them away when someone may be looking for them. Eventually expensive postage is required, we can check how to fix it. my best, luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 25 22:49:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E96823BE8B; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4903A27E.6000006@cruzio.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:49:34 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , E MAIL SAVES Subject: Re: CONSTRAINED RANDOM SCALES for COMPOSITION Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Per wrote: "Obviously this happened to me because he played so fast that it was physically impossible to hear each note - so I was sort of forced into listening to the flow of the notes instead. A great revelation it was! :-) Some years later I read about John Coltrane having this experience when hearing the harp being played and smiled to myself as I was reading... It's really a universal phenomenon." Exactly! That's what I call the 'smear effect' to all of my drum and percussion students. If you play a buzz roll fast enough (even with one hand) you cannot here the individual notes and yet you can use that 'smear' as if it was one note. This is the total secret to playing brushes effectively and I'm blown away that no books on the subject ever mention this. I have a ten minute exercise that teaches people how to go from making sharp transient sounds with the mouth (like a super rapid tonque flip to make a D or T sound without the phoneme attached to the end of the said letter) where you sing the swing rhtyhm, then you make the envelope get slightly longer adding a little bit of the AHH sound to it as you keep singing it in time, Finally you start to substitute the D sound for a G sound and then a soft G sound and finally a Vowel beginning to the word AHHHHHHHH. This effectively makes the sounds envelope longer and longer with less and less attack (analagous to going from sticks to mallets to brushes) while keeping your sounds the same. It's amazing, I avoided brushes for years because I could never figure out where , in the middle of SHHHHHHHHHH the actual quarter note was. This way teaches it quickly as you make the envelope exist equally on both sides of the intended note. ************ Also, along these lines, Bill, wonderful fretless electric bassist, Daniel Lewis and I were discussing how rapidly but shallow glissed vibratos on a fretless instrument allowed one to imagine the intended melodic goal of the instrument. Daniel told me that Mick Karn adopted this rapid vibrato technique because he was insecure about hitting the pitches accurately. I laughed out loud at that wonderful notion as I love Mick Karn's rubbery approach. It's so funny to me that it evolved out of extreme insecurity. Sounds like many techniques I evolved nervously in my drumming life...............lol From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 00:16:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44E6F3BE89; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KoCsg0yvDSkv9TzUi0apAq6OqP/hUbGdRL8OQ8uTWCs=; b=vWNvPOmbEJHmt5zjclVp6Xc6SRgrDiNTN6c+IsUp0xlgB6SIzRCn+JURbw4S13vC57 f9u0ZYV2qfdrdrKI5SKcAw+RMbmhKaYGxkWtQLkvPWcoB8CyF4Hyv3vqQYjpqkhLM0vZ RWqKJ711aT9v7EURMAACrJ6jt66eSDtEb0SMs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZnnkP5eylV6IpI3V0Jyhongu9Vq1K6dMQt8Q5ZDZy9wlhw6vuvKGIg4ws3ny2bStlJ 1+nWrMr7Lz6kx5Xpfp+VRUl5EcJCYSLmDuOD5dcgtYiku5+zmW9UlaBrg34WMndlnr82 vV35gGp9T70oEEeR9A/d5/zM7V76Uwt1AXn10= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:16:44 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Myspace In-Reply-To: <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_73825_13975980.1224980204421" References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:16:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_73825_13975980.1224980204421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline How dare they provide less than completely reliable service at no charge! TH On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Nevyn Nowhere wrote: > Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for every > login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't even been > logged into for a few weeks). > > They have overloaded their servers. > > Dumbshits. > > ------=_Part_73825_13975980.1224980204421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline How dare they provide less than completely reliable service at no charge!

TH

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Nevyn Nowhere <nevynnowhere@gmail.com> wrote:
Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for every login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't even been logged into for a few weeks).

They have overloaded their servers.

Dumbshits.


------=_Part_73825_13975980.1224980204421-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 00:39:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B9703BE89; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:39:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=xzP/mHxqD5cwD++L5E5NoemVX0dDOuavbqGp3Wmqs+w=; b=UWF8lg0mH7uvJdXCyHKaT1F7+nGIaV9xQFVqCfS9S773D2Y5t5eD1jOVHpQJDZEJuj SJeENoLOzZZ63XqhjHIBN7Kut0f2hwzueDYqQKnGVKdtlM5BVu1MdImyWNXfXpNAeswR XC9AyO06kLUcY7QAukbsU0avNF6ntbDta/m4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=wfbGZf7ctjplONK6rfheP0ZOxGuuDDtu9fO+//TpO1nNwd/G0VsVrzqPQKBNNHVNvK te1TOSVWek4NggFEdQGf3A9xmxWkYaNqyjOuKRBo/hslC8bCS69XQj9qU2YTxqVL3uLn 6SKcceMkD/ZNxVUo5hspJxLBwJmR2FrfygnwM= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:39:48 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_81298_9199902.1224981588967" References: <4902E0DC.3050609@tiscali.co.uk> <121377.86287.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 90dd8cc5fd310dd3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:39:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_81298_9199902.1224981588967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks so much for that Raul, I'm definitely going to order an audiofire4 then. two last questions: what's a good brand or brands for rca stereo to 1/4th inch stereo cables and 1/4th inch stereo to headphone (for my speakers) cables (something available on musiciansfriend.com as thats where I will be buying the audiofire unless someone else knows a better site), and what type of inputs are those two connections in the front? oh wait, sorry one more :P i have my kaoss pad hooked up via usb to my comp to sync midi, should i bother getting midi cables and doing it through the firewire interface? i'll gladly do that if it'll make it sync better (i havent really tested beyond ensuring it works yet so i dont know if theres drift over usb). thanks again everyone! Nick On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > hi nick, > i use the audiofire2 with a macbook (not pro), power feeded from the > computer and i plug my guitar (with active electronics) directly into one of > the analog inputs of the audiofire2. nothing more, no additional preamp, no > DI or ID ;-) ... the sound of the guitar is tweaked inside the computer.... > no hum, noise at noticeable levels... quality. > > going for the smallest setup, if you don't need the preamp, then a2 is the > best shot. > > also conversion in the echo seems to be one of the most accurate (as is > general agreement in related forums) among those brands we've named here. > > go for it > .002 > > 2008/10/25 Nick > > thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something >> great to use now. >> >> The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better >> to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, >> so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me >> though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need >> to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any >> quality loss when recording back into the comp though? >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott wrote: >> >>> > >>> > Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega? >>> > Looks like a good deal these days. >>> > (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain >>> > bin?) >>> > >>> > andy butler >>> >>> Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various >>> forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews >>> suggest that this isn't the case. I think the Omega is USB not firewire >>> though. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > ------=_Part_81298_9199902.1224981588967 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks so much for that Raul, I'm definitely going to order an audiofire4 then. two last questions: what's a good brand or brands for rca stereo to 1/4th inch stereo cables and 1/4th inch stereo to headphone (for my speakers) cables (something available on musiciansfriend.com as thats where I will be buying the audiofire unless someone else knows a better site), and what type of inputs are those two connections in the front?

oh wait, sorry one more :P i have my kaoss pad hooked up via usb to my comp to sync midi, should i bother getting midi cables and doing it through the firewire interface? i'll gladly do that if it'll make it sync better (i havent really tested beyond ensuring it works yet so i dont know if theres drift over usb).

thanks again everyone!
Nick

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
hi nick,

i use the audiofire2 with a macbook (not pro), power feeded from the computer and i plug my guitar (with active electronics) directly into one of the analog inputs of the audiofire2. nothing more, no additional preamp, no DI or ID ;-) ... the sound of the guitar is tweaked inside the computer.... no hum, noise at noticeable levels... quality.

going for the smallest setup, if you don't need the preamp, then a2 is the best shot.

also conversion in the echo seems to be one of the most accurate (as is general agreement in related forums) among those brands we've named here.

go for it
.002

2008/10/25 Nick <ParadoxQuine@gmail.com>

thanks so much for all the recommendations, I'm sure I'll find something great to use now.

The audiofire 4 looks really good, but I'm wondering if it would be better to just pay 350 and get something with one more in set and one more out set, so it's future proofed. the portability of the audiofire 2 does appeal to me though, since it seems my macbook, kaoss pad, and that would be all i'd need to dj a live set or make some music. will its lack of a preamp cause any quality loss when recording back into the comp though?


On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 2:44 AM, Stephen Scott <stevoj@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried the lexicon Omega?
> Looks like a good deal these days.
> (or is there some driver issue sending it to the bargain
> bin?)
>
> andy butler

Haven't tried myself, but I have read a couple of anecdotes on various forums that mention insurmountable latency problems, although most reviews suggest that this isn't the case.  I think the Omega is USB not firewire though.










--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com

------=_Part_81298_9199902.1224981588967-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 00:48:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C270A3BE8A; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224982079; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=f5b/8ljpYuwdNeMaCEvVkF4aUGM=; b=dUTiypAFCb0nuFivrecE2icH5ZLOr+EUOItRybZwTh6qX4tZ+QVM1kzTcaUj715H fJu12PASGNR/pgOaGceANZcbH5UUpBMldHEBFfbFMa+lUHvKqtF5aj12N7j6W/ek; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=KWaey0LByCdoYPs3NQ8A:9 a=YA_gdFhALsyDQ-tpIlYA:7 a=OQE-j-LScZogE3wMNrcoGmXe7-EA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=koTz35KBAXcA:10 a=BS_zhTD-OczCnZ7-bmMA:9 a=-XyAJ-diQ9RMzXWDyQQA:7 a=dzL5oGKkOU4MUnSfyPDctXgtwsYA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000f01c93704$34918a40$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: OT Myspace Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:45:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C936E2.ACE4E2C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:48:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C936E2.ACE4E2C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable haha, good point Travis, mines back up after a reboot also.... ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Travis Hartnett=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: Re: OT Myspace How dare they provide less than completely reliable service at no = charge! TH On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Nevyn Nowhere = wrote: Those morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for = every login (I had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't even = been logged into for a few weeks). They have overloaded their servers.=20 Dumbshits. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1746 - Release Date: = 10/25/2008 5:55 PM ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C936E2.ACE4E2C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
haha, good point Travis, mines back up = after a=20 reboot also....
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Travis Hartnett
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, October 25, = 2008 8:16=20 PM
Subject: Re: OT Myspace

How dare they provide less than completely reliable = service at=20 no charge!

TH

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Nevyn = Nowhere <nevynnowhere@gmail.com>=20 wrote:
Those=20 morons are now making everyone who logs in type a captcha for every = login (I=20 had to on all 3 of my accounts, one of which hadn't even been logged = into=20 for a few weeks).

They have overloaded their servers.=20

Dumbshits.



No virus found in this incoming message.
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C936E2.ACE4E2C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 01:04:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 309843BE89; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBN/AAjuQ/6Q== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Firewire audio interface recommendations - late reply Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:04:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: Ack3A1sfWtL6rGssRvO8FxPd8OlojAAAxziw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:04:58 +0000 (UTC) > thanks so much for that Raul, I'm definitely going to order an audiofire4 then. two last questions: what's a good brand or brands for rca stereo to At the risk of repeating something that was already said (I lost LD access for some time), I really like the Presonus Firebox. There is one advantage of it over a lot of other interfaces, and that is that it has an analogue level knob (post-converter) for the main outs. Apart from that, it's got a little more than you need (4 in (two of which with micpres)/6 out, headphones, SPDIF I/O and MIDI I/O - the latter might come in handy with your kaoss). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 01:46:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11D9C3BE82; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:46:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1224985559; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=KvHwZF7H9vucHAE2kalzvPhyEmg=; b=Jl6BODp9CND4IT4Jv25AASEVLFa75KQancaNjstKahx3RIpmaSbhDVpkE5NOueh4 fQSC/9hzxB3rrgdEg9OvG0E/YS/mgV0Ji0HciDBVP9he180LryQYSa9vWFkL6boR; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Gi1nmz7yvm8A:10 a=Je7-3nnIzf0A:10 a=l9qCn0o8AAAA:8 a=vXZ2rt98AAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=Up51vav9eTsGxuRAmqwA:9 a=4ciOWJryTnud3JiUhGsA:7 a=JGNseeLPsRCPpy5pJ2yKdCAR9r8A:4 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=DIuwkUbe1fkA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=jeff_d@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <006801c9370c$4ee9a500$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <490299F0.9090600@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: OT Children's toy instruments for looping Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:43:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 01:46:00 +0000 (UTC) really cool sound Rick. Wow 96 khz and 4608 kbps, 24 secs and 13.7 megs. What on earth did you record it with? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:00 AM Subject: OT Children's toy instruments for looping > After I took Ryusei and Hideki back to the San Francisco airport > to send them back to Japan I decided to treat > myself to a completely and utterly sleep deprived and festival overwhelmed > day in the city since I was so close. > > I love going to Haight Ashbury to shop so I went there and found a great > instrument > at a toy store there called a Water Trumpet. It's shaped like a > trumpet but it has > five clear plastic water pipes (with side markings for tuning with the > level of water you put into it). > > You blow through it but it won't sound until you open the trumpet > 'valve' to basically > blow the panpipe styled whistle. > > It doesn't sound like a trumpet at all, but , even better, it sounds > like those really > cheap 50's and 60's air portable electric pipe organs. > > I put it under the water and let the pipes fill up at random intervals > which forced a > really cool found scale. I just love found scales and you can play it > polyphonically as well. > > I just recorded a snippet so you can hear the > sounds. > > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/283659/TOY%20WATER%20TRUMPET%20demo.WAV > > The wheezing is my reactive airwave disease that I've had all my life > reacting to the over the top amount of pollen in the air we're having > after this ridiculous > heatwave that hit Santa Cruz after the loopers left. It was 90 degrees > yesterday but cooled > off today. The pollen is covering the windshields of our car after > having cleaned them on Wednesday. > > Also, I went to the website of a company that carries this cool kiddie > instrument and found a plethora > of cool toy instruments, including those wonderful tuned bells that I > play a lot in concert. People always ask > me where I got them and here is where you can buy a little set. They > also have a very hip looking toy banjo > for sale that I think I"m going to spring for.........it's really > inexpensive. > > http://www.stewarttoys.com/category/musicalinstruments/ > > enjoy!! > > Rick Walker > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1744 - Release Date: 10/24/2008 6:08 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 03:06:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41D43BE84; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.135] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <1811708201-1224888549-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308811292-@bxe279.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <20081025153722.oowtvk89hc0g4ks4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: Y2k8 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:06:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 03:06:48.0331 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2A995B0:01C93717] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:06:50 +0000 (UTC) More photos are popping on the site. http://www.y2kloopfest.com/images.html And I just posted the clips from Kribophoric (me and Robert Sterling). Cheers, Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 03:23:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 068013BE84; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.135] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Moog Guitar Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:23:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_059D_01C936E7.EAEBFF90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 03:23:29.0353 (UTC) FILETIME=[37516B90:01C9371A] Resent-Message-ID: <7kBOU.A.PfB.yK-AJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:23:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_059D_01C936E7.EAEBFF90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? = http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create = more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use = max/msp. Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website = make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using = an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a = guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.=20 Kris ------=_NextPart_000_059D_01C936E7.EAEBFF90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone tried out one of the Moog = Guitars? =20 http://www.moogmusic.com/mo= ogguitar/

At first glance, $6K seems like a = lot for a=20 one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my = guitar into=20 my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think of it, the sound clips = on the=20 moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or = guitar=20 using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a = guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.=20

Kris
------=_NextPart_000_059D_01C936E7.EAEBFF90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 03:27:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 513BB3BE88; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=KAlLAeJ6ANeewxo573/1bJ1Hqvq7Tnmwx6/nSBxiPtKf2P+0rkR8eBXnlGCOymkhx92S9RF1gr60UsDuDgk/nipn67nEzmH9Pe2C7fGT9h/53ts1LG9o1uJANKG/KZGmE0lvqgf6pn8X0MAfg/U+xtXkXt0PxUW67CYxrKnfOyk=; X-YMail-OSG: Vi.WousVM1l32TmAXemfJCmhntx5qjH_xo75CjyW1m08YiuRmD3tBfIqYQtwIAwzT6rONmGtNXtAmWg7inNLoT1Gy7Wfqg2GP4ORTNgT8.BVCEf1xFZHuB5_vBbyE1dgJ3pQJSKDxrZK7vws7CLcOeqzTKjjaFBRO6AnXlEtYWXtlw8SRjqOLkqH9.5l X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:27:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Kessler Reply-To: kesslari@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Y2k8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-736695894-1224991667=:45786" Message-ID: <389929.45786.qm@web110302.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:27:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-736695894-1224991667=:45786 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kris, =A0 Did you get the pics I sent last week? Just checking.=A0 Again, thanks for doing all this web work. =A0 JK --- On Sat, 10/25/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: From: Krispen Hartung Subject: Re: Y2k8 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 8:06 PM More photos are popping on the site. http://www.y2kloopfest.com/images.html And I just posted the clips from Kribophoric (me and Robert Sterling). Cheers, Kris --0-736695894-1224991667=:45786 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Kris,
 
Did you get the pics I sent last week?
Just checking.  Again, thanks for doing all this web work.
 
JK

--- On Sat, 10/25/08, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
From: Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>
Subject: Re: Y2k8
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Saturday, October 25, 2008, 8:06 PM

More photos are popping on the site.

http://www.y2kloopfest.com/images.html

And I just posted the clips from Kribophoric (me and Robert Sterling).

Cheers,

Kris
--0-736695894-1224991667=:45786-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 03:34:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D31B3BE88; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=rUYYBSme4lsqNEvnTJeUsF+zFvlzXHivTRiclieFt9I=; b=qro7bUMm/khVYu+cSPvwU4BT24BuBqAvzw/tRE29bYZyPBBrBTHZkYOln5nB8o/FPo +kB16WAZdskUz2Zcni+pmlvu+tl5gSdXSSV4/6Rm+iqpkMCwqto8fFbJCaPwUinBvKi+ LoJaIpIeS/+aEzvNJvdGT+2yA2zSqWw4mLWEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Smd4UcxhAPjK+OFh2U7pKq2AwkG2DELZ5zQY39RsH4um1hBaGtgKjhs6N+hE0ZeENr jaPuOLZchkk42lBlZ9Zx0zNAVGsAZBZuukZjUo/S/guMp5sCb/3R5W3pkiZ2OtL3tspO uzMwbB+flAN9HVDXZabzXBxHei536X8kNLEZI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:34:27 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Moog Guitar In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_74568_28941263.1224992067142" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:34:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_74568_28941263.1224992067142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The thing about the Moog guitar is that it's like a *polyphonic* eBow (among other things). That's not easy to do, and some people used to really want that capability, but I'm doubting that they're willing to pay $6K to do it on someone else's guitar. Plus, I believe it wants to use special strings. TH On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? > http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ > > ------=_Part_74568_28941263.1224992067142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The thing about the Moog guitar is that it's like a *polyphonic* eBow (among other things).  That's not easy to do, and some people used to really want that capability, but I'm doubting that they're willing to pay $6K to do it on someone else's guitar. 

Plus, I believe it wants to use special strings.

TH

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/


------=_Part_74568_28941263.1224992067142-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 03:39:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A6C3BE90; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.135] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:39:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05D1_01C936EA.35D02390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 03:39:54.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[8268D490:01C9371C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:39:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05D1_01C936EA.35D02390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows media = player, which display random video effects along with music you play on = your computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that allows = you to trigger the visualizations via audio (mic input on computer)? Kris ------=_NextPart_000_05D1_01C936EA.35D02390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I really like the plugins that you can = get that run=20 in windows media player, which display random video effects along with = music you=20 play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that = allows=20 you to trigger the visualizations via audio (mic input on=20 computer)?
 
Kris
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_05D1_01C936EA.35D02390-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 04:51:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E35E23BE88; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:51:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_4T915WZv8hH4MWgj4ppE/Q)" Message-id: From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Moog Guitar Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:51:17 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:51:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_4T915WZv8hH4MWgj4ppE/Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by somebody else in a few years. I think it's a f'n cool guitar. I didn't get that it was that close to being a slide guitar. t ----- Original Message ----- From: Krispen Hartung To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: Moog Guitar Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use max/msp. Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better. Kris --Boundary_(ID_4T915WZv8hH4MWgj4ppE/Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by somebody else in a few years.  I think it's a f'n cool guitar.  I didn't get that it was that close to being a slide guitar.
 
t
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject: Moog Guitar

Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/

At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.

Kris
--Boundary_(ID_4T915WZv8hH4MWgj4ppE/Q)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 05:15:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E5053BE8B; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 05:15:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bbaeetd26vLsfMdz+32nY13U6bgNJBCraFThWWX1Jgc=; b=CgK1cO5kzkoAEEEh6UAAdJkBsQ+F95CKjyTkxWOQEUcXWrSZREiUuzW1eG+ROGlZNI n6iKm+nI2vDcX+4C6SxuGqD5qSkkhH6/X4WHizRNuoYVF+QyrBehN1AZNfLy4YUyM9j+ q3m6tNaKpyNTt3o5DIlU9hYEJDbfuYvBraSCA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=YeBQ+qLqfU8dcSPjJnaO8L5fS7STHu7HhrgFGUjVZlLqKwaNl5JwxFQdW12FsKIu3x Lt90ABG2unwjjadJffnMVT0ZQyAwacEOIsd/ri/K6FTOtIPLIRh5l07b7W3ek/REPI0d +PZZUcQ+P3j/QixBKFQwJsv3Mhf8ti2QiuRtE= Message-ID: <588ce11d0810252215v2587288coca79afa09a4646a7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:15:07 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: O.T. 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How can you say that...Its not just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, therfore making more banjo-like tones admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats the R&D talking... some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar actuall= y changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests me. Although Iv= e said this before on the list - I have a fernandez pickup on my baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "comes alive", an= d pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme volume levels (but WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling. Im sure that with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free playing style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as with my midi guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing style. Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like to play thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is it more like a midi guitar. Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I really don=B4t care to get = a system just cos it prtends to me just like the same combination of strat an= d marshall as Hendrix used on All along the watchtower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you are in the band that plays on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very interested if I can just plug in my baritone, and make a new instrument. Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha.. m On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G wrote: > I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by somebody else > in a few years. I think it's a f'n cool guitar. I didn't get that it wa= s > that close to being a slide guitar. > > t > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Krispen Hartung > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM > *Subject:* Moog Guitar > > Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? > http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ > > At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create > more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use > max/msp. Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website mak= e > it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow= . I > was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a > Roland GR300 but a lot better. > > Kris > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_9158_25291969.1225006214875 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say that...Its not = just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, therfore making more ba= njo-like tones

 admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats= the R&D talking...

some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar act= ually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests me. Altho= ugh Ive said this before on the list -  I have a fernandez pickup on m= y baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "= comes alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme vol= ume levels (but WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling= . Im sure that with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and fr= ee playing style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as w= ith my midi guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing sty= le.

Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like to p= lay thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is it mor= e like a midi guitar.
Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I re= ally don=B4t care to get a system just cos it prtends to me just like the s= ame combination of strat and marshall as Hendrix used on All along the watc= htower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you are in the band that plays = on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very interested if I can just pl= ug in my baritone, and make a new instrument.

Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure Behringe= r... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha..

m
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at = 5:51 AM, Toby G <ca= rpet8@mac.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure the technology is = gonna be done=20 cheaper by somebody else in a few years.  I think it's a f'n c= ool=20 guitar.  I didn't get that it was that close to being a slide=20 guitar.
 
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Has anyone tried out one of the Moog= =20 Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/

At first glance, $6K seems like = a lot for a=20 one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guita= r=20 into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think of it, the sound c= lips=20 on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guita= r or=20 guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming ou= t of=20 a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.=20

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http://www.myspace.com/markf= rancombe
www.looop.no
------=_Part_9158_25291969.1225006214875-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 07:36:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D4673BE8D; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Tw/Y9YKawwaiMkRYG1YTcg)" Message-id: <222EA7AB-7C25-4EE2-88FC-3141C9D584C0@mac.com> From: Toby G To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" In-reply-to: <9ab0c76f0810260030l21cd3aa8la14fcbec857a601a@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5F136) Subject: Re: Moog Guitar Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:34:53 -0700 References: <9ab0c76f0810260030l21cd3aa8la14fcbec857a601a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 07:36:21 +0000 (UTC) --Boundary_(ID_Tw/Y9YKawwaiMkRYG1YTcg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance =20 physically. Of course the tones I had coming out of it were pretty =20 mangled. t --at the peak of the disco outfreakage... On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:30 AM, mark francombe =20= wrote: > Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say =20 > that...Its not just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, =20 > therfore making more banjo-like tones > > admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats the R&D talking... > > some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar =20= > actually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests =20= > me. Although Ive said this before on the list - I have a fernandez =20= > pickup on my baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the =20 > time) my guitar "comes alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has =20 > worked under extreme volume levels (but WITH earplugs) will know, =20 > that is a very satisfying feeling. Im sure that with less attack =20 > (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free playing style, wheras =20= > short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as with my midi guitar =20= > sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing style. > > Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like =20 > to play thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, =20 > or is it more like a midi guitar. > Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I really don=C2=B4t care = to=20 > get a system just cos it prtends to me just like the same combinati=20= > on of strat and marshall as Hendrix used on All along the watchtower=20= > .. god no.. what is the point (unless you are in the band that plays=20= > on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very interested if I can=20= > just plug in my baritone, and make a new instrument. > > Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure =20 > Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha.. > > m > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G wrote: > I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by somebody =20= > else in a few years. I think it's a f'n cool guitar. I didn't get =20= > that it was that close to being a slide guitar. > > t > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Krispen Hartung > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM > Subject: Moog Guitar > > Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? = http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ > > At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can =20 > create more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop =20= > and use max/msp. Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the =20 > moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar =20= > or guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds =20 > coming out of a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better. > > Kris > > > > --=20 > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no --Boundary_(ID_Tw/Y9YKawwaiMkRYG1YTcg) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
I had the first vg8 model. It never = really had much resonance physically.  Of course the tones I had = coming out of it were pretty = mangled. 

t
--at the peak of the disco = outfreakage...


On Oct 26, 2008, = at 12:30 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> = wrote:

Its = waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say that...Its not = just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, therfore making more = banjo-like tones

 admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure = thats the R&D talking...

some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar = actually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests me. = Although Ive said this before on the list -  I have a fernandez = pickup on my baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my = guitar "comes alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under = extreme volume levels (but WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very = satisfying feeling. Im sure that with less attack (more sustain) comes a = relaxed, wild and free playing style, wheras short decay (with no = accidental re-triggering as with my midi guitar sounds) will give a more = precise and careful playing style.

Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like = to play thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is = it more like a midi guitar.
Ive ben considering this system for ages, = but I really don=C2=B4t care to get a system just cos it prtends to me = just like the same combination of strat and marshall as Hendrix used on = All along the watchtower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you are in = the band that plays on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very = interested if I can just plug in my baritone, and make a new instrument. =

Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure = Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha = ha..

m






On = Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com> = wrote:
I'm pretty sure the technology is = gonna be done=20 cheaper by somebody else in a few years.  I think it's a f'n cool=20= guitar.  I didn't get that it was that close to being a slide=20 guitar.
 
t
----- Original Message = -----
Sent: Saturday, = October 25, 2008 8:23=20 PM
Subject: Moog = Guitar

Has anyone tried out one of the = Moog=20 Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moo= gguitar/

At first glance, $6K seems = like a lot for a=20 one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my = guitar=20 into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think of it, the = sound clips=20 on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide = guitar or=20 guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming = out of=20 a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.=20

Kris



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/us= er/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markf= rancombe
www.looop.no
= --Boundary_(ID_Tw/Y9YKawwaiMkRYG1YTcg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 08:00:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E9BD3BE91; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:00:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=PTRHHfkaj1n6BLMJMLE9mmkheU4pkV7uPeSuKEAtPQE=; b=B3p5vhykmvUfnfaP+K+5tXpegnib7ybDyIlPe99rQ3OwbPs93yjhVyfPW2XoaYR20x wmsjRBSWUtnlaJFuGjeGIAPo8h5R0qibUyDHBlPJBDctctoEsz7ZmSDju05jl2T6Jo4G LRsdzlcdILYNn2zUqaL4zlsXkGkkqlXUf9yyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=WMeB02Z5BYNB/8o4DiRd24iEh56dBVeRpkutAhiVpMae8cg++ebdIxOQUxqxKNh3zH atyZcjEbfX9e3BSFVhDaIn382KKJFO15HE5BnJch156azUZIcU3wOtMZWQQRQssjTDal ZsOgkimE4H+N8cNq71OCP2zwupvlxKOY5lPys= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810260100q2f9c022ct4390783a1b106d90@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:00:21 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9665_22683551.1225008021723" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 804ca285fa34f6ec Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:00:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9665_22683551.1225008021723 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations not the windows ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris... On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows media > player, which display random video effects along with music you play on your > computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that allows you to > trigger the visualizations via audio (mic input on computer)? > > Kris > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_9665_22683551.1225008021723 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations not the windows ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris...

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:
I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows media player, which display random video effects along with music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations via audio (mic input on computer)?
 
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------=_Part_9665_22683551.1225008021723-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 08:02:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E36F3BE97; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:02:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=h42mTTtZS4B1sk8tAGnYBZHfxaF+MLCYnxUPyHECHfQ=; b=Uqu+TusjwcgT4EJvzkTdpQzNKgsRY5CDI3AADdF8UWXOb//JDqvxp0gCxghor6pmK0 haQcdrBa9U71DJPwBhsmBznf+YJdq2/6YZRKRY30To7LT19YentDjvsZUXRE1CEORSo7 JA++oD7xxA7mcLcGLB5vM03mbu+cg3cI5dGZY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=vRy/6MsyAEEMQn/BPb76kl4iG38V4Wb8ZrQ4dNMIyAfpLlBr3UIADjMHo+swV1tIK2 7wBV5jY2PoXEdOvuPU4G3tOmLYbivci+CcHbsbSR1jQJhrSyeF6fIxos1OaNgv0QOifA ygk//pkkgspRTS0+Z+8hWSq28a2ZbKCSIlyP0= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810260102h17128eb3rc0da46122b4a60a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:02:09 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Moog Guitar In-Reply-To: <222EA7AB-7C25-4EE2-88FC-3141C9D584C0@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9703_16201840.1225008129781" References: <9ab0c76f0810260030l21cd3aa8la14fcbec857a601a@mail.gmail.com> <222EA7AB-7C25-4EE2-88FC-3141C9D584C0@mac.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 744ce1375d67244a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:02:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9703_16201840.1225008129781 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline so it IS possible to mangle? I thought it was supposed to be somewhat unmaleable... either its possibilities or due to clunky interface? expound please? On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Toby G wrote: > I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance physically. > Of course the tones I had coming out of it were pretty mangled. > > t > --at the peak of the disco outfreakage... > > On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:30 AM, mark francombe > wrote: > > Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say that...Its no= t > just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, therfore making more > banjo-like tones > > admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats the R&D talking... > > some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar > actually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests me. > Although Ive said this before on the list - I have a fernandez pickup on= my > baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "comes > alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme volume level= s > (but WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling. Im sure > that with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free playi= ng > style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as with my mi= di > guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing style. > > Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like to pla= y > thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is it more > like a midi guitar. > Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I really don=B4t care to ge= t a > system just cos it prtends to me just like the same combination of strat = and > marshall as Hendrix used on All along the watchtower.. god no.. what is t= he > point (unless you are in the band that plays on the danish/norwegian > channel...) But Im very interested if I can just plug in my baritone, and > make a new instrument. > > Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure Behringer.= .. > I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha.. > > m > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G < carpet8@mac.co= m > > wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by somebody els= e >> in a few years. I think it's a f'n cool guitar. I didn't get that it w= as >> that close to being a slide guitar. >> >> t >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Krispen Hartung >> *To:* >> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM >> *Subject:* Moog Guitar >> >> Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? >> >> http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ >> >> At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create >> more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use >> max/msp. Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website ma= ke >> it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebo= w. I >> was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a >> Roland GR300 but a lot better. >> >> Kris >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancomb= e > www.looop.no > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_9703_16201840.1225008129781 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline so it IS possible to mangle? I thought it was supposed to be somewhat unmal= eable... either its possibilities or due to clunky interface? expound pleas= e?

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Toby = G <carpet8@mac.com<= /a>> wrote:
I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance = physically.  Of course the tones I had coming out of it were pretty ma= ngled. 

t
--at the peak of the disco outfreakage...

=
Its waaaaay more than a= polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say that...Its not just able to ADD infina= te sustain but to reduce it, therfore making more banjo-like tones

 admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats the R&D talking..= .

some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar act= ually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests me. Altho= ugh Ive said this before on the list -  I have a fernandez pickup on m= y baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "= comes alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme vol= ume levels (but WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling= . Im sure that with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and fr= ee playing style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as w= ith my midi guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing sty= le.

Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like to p= lay thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is it mor= e like a midi guitar.
Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I re= ally don=B4t care to get a system just cos it prtends to me just like the s= ame combination of strat and marshall as Hendrix used on All along the watc= htower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you are in the band that plays = on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very interested if I can just pl= ug in my baritone, and make a new instrument.

Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure Behringe= r... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha..

m
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On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at = 5:51 AM, Toby G <ca= rpet8@mac.com> wrote:
I'm pretty sure the technology is = gonna be done=20 cheaper by somebody else in a few years.  I think it's a f'n c= ool=20 guitar.  I didn't get that it was that close to being a slide=20 guitar.
 
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Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8= :23=20 PM
Subject: Moog Guitar

Has anyone tried out one of the Moog= =20 Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/

At first glance, $6K seems like = a lot for a=20 one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guita= r=20 into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think of it, the sound c= lips=20 on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guita= r or=20 guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming ou= t of=20 a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.=20

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------=_Part_9703_16201840.1225008129781-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 09:55:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC7C93BE88; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 97595571/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.147.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.147.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtQAANnbA0lPTpMt/2dsb2JhbAAIv3eDT4M6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,488,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="97595571" Message-ID: <49043F1A.3040109@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:57:46 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2k8 Therimin rhythm References: <1811708201-1224888549-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1308811292-@bxe279.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> <20081025153722.oowtvk89hc0g4ks4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20081025153722.oowtvk89hc0g4ks4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:55:29 +0000 (UTC) kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > pitch). The other issue is that the theremin's attack is relatively > slow and it can be hard to hear the precise location of the "beat". My that shouldn't be a problem, just feed some stuff into the loop and find the "beat" by listening. With a slow attack, the rhythm can be ambiguous, so just let yourself feel the rhythm in whatever way that appeals to you and play to that. Or...to make it easier, start with a very short loop and multiply it. andy butler From admin@helix.surventrix.com Sun Oct 26 10:10:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6482 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:10:22 UTC Received: from helix.surventrix.com (server213-171-198-20.live-servers.net [213.171.198.20]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 791A33BE84 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:10:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by helix.surventrix.com (Postfix, from userid 2000) id 9AF9626C77; Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:53:35 +0100 (BST) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You've received A Hallmark E-Card! From: hallmark.com Content-Type: text/html Message-Id: <20081019075343.9AF9626C77@helix.surventrix.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 08:53:35 +0100 (BST)
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 10:22:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F36633BE8D; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AtQAAOfhA0lPTpMt/2dsb2JhbAAIv2+DT4M6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,488,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="98135531" Message-ID: <49044551.30808@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:24:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT Re: CONSTRAINED RANDOM Mick Karn References: <4903A27E.6000006@cruzio.com> In-Reply-To: <4903A27E.6000006@cruzio.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6rkmz.A.rHF.ITEBJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Daniel told me that Mick Karn adopted this rapid vibrato technique > because he was insecure about hitting the pitches accurately. > I laughed out loud at that wonderful notion as I love Mick Karn's > rubbery approach. I love his playing too! By observation, I'd say he's not so good at playing in tune. His tasty use of flanger/chorus may be in part to hide that. Also, his control of dynamics is done for him by compressor, which means that we hear at one level all those differences in tone that a bass produces when played with varying strength. This also adds a lot of interest to his sound, all those little flicks and pings coming out clearly. ...and furthermore, he uses a lot of open string notes, pretty much regardless of the key of the music. (just try it, starting in C# half way up the neck, instant Karn) ..but his sense of rhythm and originality is astounding, the overall result is that he's (imo) essential listening. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 10:44:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7498F3BE82; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=B/vyRaNc1ePPyZJdfzAW3T0Njcw846vRV9qtxUyUWLE=; b=SpjY5j7+fTosh6czE6OhonGkGZMAmjRVxkdAcXBkTGPqA9k0M9PWVsMe+L+HcFcjhR Sq96Q5ZKqtRbFb8v+thXUl2+XF68Makn8Dhbz7h/K23j+FV31FWfWo4Q7PHrG6av/llF M7JH4G3H4TN+rqISAMzqLfvxjYGMMIKpRDCT0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=pe9qvzmLpKyMUGcT7QqSUMw+H4p2Ns6oxOG/yh6bo3V7TTe2TTEUIIqiZhURMGG+/O jQr4WuIf2JbxFJvsFKn+3WD/fTaI+9zd/w2qUtVDgDmK1P9T0JfdjrG5T+KpDn5wIFri fnyICAOEi4Y/FMJoRuhQovjDy+6/Mjvy1ojw8= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810260344i1315f0f6xcc62613524b6983e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:44:10 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Re: CONSTRAINED RANDOM Mick Karn In-Reply-To: <49044551.30808@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4903A27E.6000006@cruzio.com> <49044551.30808@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:44:11 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:24 AM, andy butler wrote: > Rick Walker wrote: > >> Daniel told me that Mick Karn adopted this rapid vibrato technique because >> he was insecure about hitting the pitches accurately. >> I laughed out loud at that wonderful notion as I love Mick Karn's rubbery >> approach. > > I love his playing too! > By observation, I'd say he's not so good at playing in tune. > His tasty use of flanger/chorus may be in part to hide that. > Also, his control of dynamics is done for him by compressor, > which means that we hear at one level all those differences > in tone that a bass produces when played with varying strength. > This also adds a lot of interest to his sound, all those little flicks and > pings coming out clearly. > ...and furthermore, he uses a lot of open string notes, pretty much > regardless of the key of the music. > (just try it, starting in C# half way up the neck, instant Karn) > > ..but his sense of rhythm and originality is astounding, > the overall result is that he's (imo) essential listening. > > andy butler Yes, the flicks and the pings! Interesting. I totally loved it when Japan changed their musical outlet for the more electronic style. After hearing a lot of Pastorius (including all those more or less talented copycats around by 1979-80) it was great to experience someone playing a really raw fretless bass with no jazz influences! He was like a drummer hitting that bass, so the heavy compression being part of the instrument makes total sense. Thanks for telling! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 11:41:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E14E3BE8D; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:41:39 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=xjMrZyaj+pxVTzfLgk41KYT98BYWoW5Bzc6oHncIVkch4SimmjjS9i40QI9pID/vXX8PK16kHdwpSWi9vLxwHyf3aGlvk6J9PFZOjCPV3qnlW1zTjROJ5O4VaZWOB902lQ9WNZBxbQkfQssWIwREDjYV0Fp4cr9ZI4YqqNiVDIU=; X-YMail-OSG: sqmqcZYVM1mr_pNtWlsTi23mPlN4QrdWNVs9lCcfl70cKUpbZbWwJH4xlbpW7J8NawoxfrnsIFNmBGRXhHvSdAn1Ez2GqR.uMiqAbuhp3QsYMvO_SGoAgXSzOopsMLR3XARnLuEu4IkpExa3Bix3NDGGjrUVww0S8.7ZNS0PdlV77D3MY6pWMYwb0Z4M X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:34:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: OT: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810260100q2f9c022ct4390783a1b106d90@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <772202.36518.qm@web45313.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 11:41:39 +0000 (UTC) Just a heads-up about the Media Player visualizer: it's notorious for introducing spiky, buzzy, popping, crackly nasty noise into soundcards, particularly if you have a VIA chipset. -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen Hartung > wrote: > > > I really like the plugins that you can get that run > in windows media > > player, which display random video effects along with > music you play on your > > computer. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 14:04:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7D2A3BE86; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:04:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DXJhYd6YedMwOx9P9+iBtMZnayneVp3p/SiQhLdQUNE=; b=i4qZWwpnua+l6eiBXShMxrGy/BhcGn5zzVdEe056yaDuYqaZS4TqYfuVlcEmNHv/hQ kXMhcQvZ4HqLIDje63vwFgtfwDv0oLoXuNTyB0OAXwPDXcmGyv5xZP1VJa9J3iXFQaqf zocMi4jVNITGurT/uQfMT7BCPlkQ0gm57DE+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ge58PrWo5GtvSzsTS31hn/V7mVpLeQ8YIiR7lUAq02qme/d5bpMTWiNqxho3talNgu VGSWSj0NnCcjCaUfwDYi7Mg+FTWfCgmg6FZhzopshGaxPM4tQv1tgKaITKlsxsXGFwZt aqrs8xaclChBuIgPrj8EzCHIDN44mZYeYJ7sM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:04:52 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations - late reply In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20747_6371822.1225029892319" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:04:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20747_6371822.1225029892319 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline 2008/10/26 Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill > > for some time), I really like the Presonus Firebox. There is one advantag= e > of it over a lot of other interfaces, and that is that it has an analogue > level knob (post-converter) for the main outs. Also you can assign -10 or +4 line levels to the minijack output of the a2, which gives you the knob control, not with the main output but enough for monitoring. This is why they call the a2 4in-6out. ra=FCl. --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_20747_6371822.1225029892319 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

2008/10/26 Rainer Thelonius Balthasar St= raschill <rs@moinlab= s.de>

for some time), I really like the Presonus Firebox. There is one advantage<= br> of it over a lot of other interfaces, and that is that it has an analogue level knob (post-converter) for the main outs.

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Also you can assign -10 or +4 line levels to the minijack output of th= e a2, which gives you the knob control, not with the main output but enough= for monitoring.

This is why they call the a2 4in-6out.

ra=FCl.

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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.= ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO = at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_20747_6371822.1225029892319-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 15:28:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EA5E3BE82; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:28:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.135] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <9ab0c76f0810260100q2f9c022ct4390783a1b106d90@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:28:13 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9374D.2B15ACA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 15:28:15.0314 (UTC) FILETIME=[76F87B20:01C9377F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:28:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9374D.2B15ACA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cool. I'll switch to winamp. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations not the windows = ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris... On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen Hartung = wrote: I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows media = player, which display random video effects along with music you play on = your computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that allows = you to trigger the visualizations via audio (mic input on computer)? Kris --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9374D.2B15ACA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cool. I'll switch to = winamp.
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 

winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations = not the=20 windows ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris...

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen = Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>=20 wrote:
I really like the plugins that you = can get that=20 run in windows media player, which display random video effects = along with=20 music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent and = free=20 plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations via audio (mic = input on=20 computer)?
 
Kris
 
 



-- =
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
www.looop.no
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C9374D.2B15ACA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 15:35:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A06033BE88; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo05 X-RZG-AUTH: :O2kGeEG7b/pSsUC2QnG/iJWQHiiXBZHq74zxWWR9pHotnX+QVsaBN/AAjuQ/6Q== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:35:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01C93788.D955AB40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Thread-Index: Ack3f3iS8KzuzaclSfeLvq1DoAw3AQAAORiA In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:35:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C93788.D955AB40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit quintessential player (www.quinnware.com) also can use the Winamp plugins, as well as its proprietary ones - it's my preferred media playing solution (although ymmv). Rainer _____ Von: Krispen Hartung [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com] Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2008 16:28 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio Cool. I'll switch to winamp. Kris ----- Original Message ----- winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations not the windows ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris... On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows media player, which display random video effects along with music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations via audio (mic input on computer)? Kris -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C93788.D955AB40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
quintessential player (www.quinnware.com) also can use = the Winamp=20 plugins, as well as its proprietary ones - it's my preferred media = playing=20 solution (although ymmv).
 
        = Rainer

Von: Krispen Hartung=20 [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 26. = Oktober=20 2008 16:28
An:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: Video = Visualization=20 in Windows Media Player activated by audio

Cool. I'll switch to = winamp.
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 

winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations = not the=20 windows ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris...

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen = Hartung=20 <info@krispenhartung.com>=20 wrote:
I really like the plugins that = you can get=20 that run in windows media player, which display random video = effects along=20 with music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent = and=20 free plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations via = audio (mic=20 input on computer)?
 
Kris
 
 



--
www.markfrancombe.com
http://uk.youtube.com/u= ser/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/mark= francombe
www.looop.no
------=_NextPart_000_0003_01C93788.D955AB40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 17:23:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84DE03BE7F; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_em2/ejcObl0iZCUsQvhTAw)" Message-id: <51A4A18E8EFF4B459EAFFEB6A1B42165@NORBY11> From: Toby G To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <9ab0c76f0810260030l21cd3aa8la14fcbec857a601a@mail.gmail.com> <222EA7AB-7C25-4EE2-88FC-3141C9D584C0@mac.com> <9ab0c76f0810260102h17128eb3rc0da46122b4a60a5@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Moog Guitar Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:23:02 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:23:05 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_em2/ejcObl0iZCUsQvhTAw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable If we're talking about the VG-8: You could change the "synth" sounds by affecting the envelope and = filtering. There wasn't much ability to choose a waveform as a basis = for synthesis. If you're creative you can use the built in effects and pitch shift as = parts of the sound editing. Best things about it were the zero latency = and the fact that it was not sample based synthesis. t ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:02 AM Subject: Re: Moog Guitar so it IS possible to mangle? I thought it was supposed to be somewhat = unmaleable... either its possibilities or due to clunky interface? = expound please? On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Toby G wrote: I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance = physically. Of course the tones I had coming out of it were pretty = mangled.=20 t --at the peak of the disco outfreakage... On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:30 AM, mark francombe = wrote: Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say = that...Its not just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, = therfore making more banjo-like tones admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats the R&D = talking...=20 some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the = guitar actually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This = interests me. Although Ive said this before on the list - I have a = fernandez pickup on my baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all = the time) my guitar "comes alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has = worked under extreme volume levels (but WITH earplugs) will know, that = is a very satisfying feeling. Im sure that with less attack (more = sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free playing style, wheras short = decay (with no accidental re-triggering as with my midi guitar sounds) = will give a more precise and careful playing style. Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like = to play thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is = it more like a midi guitar. Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I really don=B4t = care to get a system just cos it prtends to me just like the same = combination of strat and marshall as Hendrix used on All along the = watchtower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you are in the band that = plays on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very interested if I = can just plug in my baritone, and make a new instrument.=20 Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure = Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha.. m On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G wrote: I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by = somebody else in a few years. I think it's a f'n cool guitar. I didn't = get that it was that close to being a slide guitar. t ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM Subject: Moog Guitar Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? = http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I = can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop = and use max/msp. Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog = website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar = using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a = guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.=20 Kris --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no --Boundary_(ID_em2/ejcObl0iZCUsQvhTAw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
If we're talking about the = VG-8:
 
You could change the "synth" sounds by = affecting=20 the envelope and filtering.  There wasn't much ability to choose a = waveform=20 as a basis for synthesis.
If you're creative you can use the = built in effects=20 and pitch shift as parts of the sound editing.  Best things about = it were=20 the zero latency and the fact that it was not sample based=20 synthesis.
 
t
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mark=20 francombe
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 = 1:02=20 AM
Subject: Re: Moog Guitar

so it IS possible to mangle? I thought it was supposed = to be=20 somewhat unmaleable... either its possibilities or due to clunky = interface?=20 expound please?

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com>=20 wrote:
I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance=20 physically.  Of course the tones I had coming out of it were = pretty=20 mangled. 

t
--at the peak of the disco outfreakage...


On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:30 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say=20 that...Its not just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, = therfore making more banjo-like tones

 admittedly 6K = seems too=20 much, but im sure thats the R&D talking...

some of the = videos=20 ive seen have the players explain how the guitar actually changes = its FEEL=20 as it changes attack modes. This interests me. Although Ive said = this=20 before on the list -  I have a fernandez pickup on my = baritone=20 guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "comes = alive",=20 and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme volume levels = (but=20 WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling. Im = sure that=20 with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free = playing=20 style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as = with my=20 midi guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing=20 style.

Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, = what is=20 it like to play thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a = guitar,=20 or is it more like a midi guitar.
Ive ben considering this = system for=20 ages, but I really don=B4t care to get a system just cos it = prtends to me=20 just like the same combination of strat and marshall as Hendrix = used on=20 All along the watchtower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you = are in=20 the band that plays on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im = very=20 interested if I can just plug in my baritone, and make a new = instrument.=20

Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im = sure=20 Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha=20 ha..

m






On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G = <carpet8@mac.com>=20 wrote:
I'm pretty sure the technology = is gonna be=20 done cheaper by somebody else in a few years.  I think it's = a f'n=20 cool guitar.  I didn't get that it was that close to being = a slide=20 guitar.
 
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From:=20 Krispen Hartung
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Sent:=20 Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject:=20 Moog Guitar

Has anyone tried out one of = the Moog=20 Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/

At first glance, $6K = seems like a lot=20 for a one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds = when I plug=20 my guitar into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I = think of=20 it, the sound clips on the moog website make it sound like = just an=20 over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow. I was = expecting=20 some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a = Roland GR300=20 but a lot better.=20 =

Kris


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--Boundary_(ID_em2/ejcObl0iZCUsQvhTAw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 17:36:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F6283BE7F; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:36:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 97774222/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.147.45/None/akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.147.45 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-MUA: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhEBAJtHBElPTpMt/2dsb2JhbAAIv0yDT4M6 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.33,489,1220223600"; d="scan'208";a="97774222" Message-ID: <4904AB17.5030303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:38:31 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio References: <9ab0c76f0810260100q2f9c022ct4390783a1b106d90@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:36:14 +0000 (UTC) hi Kris, from the andy-info-archives:- ***************************************** WinAmp has a plug-in called "NullSoft Line-In" ... you can download it from them if need be. Select that plug-in (Options, Preferences, Plug-Ins, Input), then select File, Location, then type in "linein://" (without quotes) I just plugged something into my soundcard line-in and it seems to control the visualizations ... cool! Make sure you hit "Play" in WinAmp .... ....author unknown (on LD) ******************************************* I've had it working, a lot of fun, and at Mathon with Matthias we had it projected as we improvised, with Matt's nephew Johnny hacking the visualizations. Have to say though, the i-tunes visualization that Per showed me recently was pretty amazing, although he thinks it's probably mac only. andy butler Krispen Hartung wrote: > Cool. I'll switch to winamp. > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations not the windows > ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris... > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen Hartung > > wrote: > > I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows > media player, which display random video effects along with > music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent > and free plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations > via audio (mic input on computer)? > > Kris > > > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 17:38:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F263E3BE88; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=08aoAZOIeDG4+Zl4S0xfj4JNJP2AykC4tFv16TMI5d0=; b=oeMDmAbSrwGZ2g9o2VjjgXVwhvuxWQERlpSEohoGFV5o4JVwK4/pZLmKTmk2HBr847 FjgxL5Nkv/XyhiL/PkLQxwaRM9KWTiYdt1WgMYdJPAN4N+7hxW4Lk5aojQlPlBW5mWMQ 1ofjMJDx3PJIIkDBCvv7NWtD+A+dOcimZQS3M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=uYd2DJKuowD5uqfkyPu16G+loUPZKzywyp0uweBG9WXv2lNsNVhg83eVjNH/l0kDbS u5JY8DmRIQ48ccGyvUXKnzSctDeN0rCCr/5kCxzMUSbBHTCXLBKggzR5atIjIGAnqpya gIF9OzA/znrI80Zz3sVMN0/kQVyZ9cRi7JwHI= Message-ID: <4904AB26.5010705@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:38:46 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Myspace References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:38:49 +0000 (UTC) Travis Hartnett schrieb: > How dare they provide less than completely reliable service at no charge! No charge? They charge a lot by letting you provide your content (the music) for free, and then collect money with their annoying ads... I consider this charging... If they would be smart enough to do it less annoying like google is doing it, I wouldn't mind... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 17:51:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C10C83BE86; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7rIpi8AHslAm/IX62ZkXht+jzSSbIcHXTrla0Pu0fc0=; b=X7bI6Nnm4SlEqDgD1rcKOBkUda3mrvfZIN3a1/h3JzsiEQ3IaL/RIab7jEY3LEw3tr iKUuhl+cI9kortAFahz2QWQYzkW7Dh3bvjm7QaazW0A9uK9Z1K3bIFaGhUHneRHRR8iN RIZ30i+D3CeWv6JeA8rPk5wNgZpe3rox6BWNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=r3KdhjOE0FuttgA17fFnaL1mwzdaGd1bVozqD6e5oYiOJDPsTYxE8bClP79yDMVw8M u04HSZ5JECuMlfwUpmUSwZr4OjmaVTvY17Clqp1t1akCzQHCPG9UXEj6i6nm5+gNxOTT onnq3OIae+CeYGPViOK/UnpRUir9k8NLU+wiE= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:51:21 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Myspace In-Reply-To: <4904AB26.5010705@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_79350_5777085.1225043481309" References: <000b01c936ce$8781bf80$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <333287c30810251234i300f9f83te1b30d0eb6534ae5@mail.gmail.com> <4904AB26.5010705@googlemail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:51:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_79350_5777085.1225043481309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For future reference, the common meaning of "charging" in this context refers to the exchange of "money" for "good or services". MySpace charges *no* money for free hosting and access the probably the world's largest social networking service. Do they get nothing in return? Of course not, no-one spends millions of dollars without wanting something in return, but feel free to build your own website somewhere and work on directing traffic to it without paying any money for it. BTW: "Firefox can't find the server at www.ccmix.com." How much you spending for that webpage? TH On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Travis Hartnett schrieb: > >> How dare they provide less than completely reliable service at no charge! >> > > No charge? They charge a lot by letting you provide your content (the > music) for free, and then collect money with their annoying ads... I > consider this charging... > If they would be smart enough to do it less annoying like google is doing > it, I wouldn't mind... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > ------=_Part_79350_5777085.1225043481309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For future reference, the common meaning of "charging" in this context refers to the exchange of "money"  for "good or services". 

MySpace charges *no* money for free hosting and access the probably the world's largest social networking service.  Do they get nothing in return?  Of course not, no-one spends millions of dollars without wanting something in return, but feel free to build your own website somewhere and work on directing traffic to it without paying any money for it.

BTW:  "Firefox can't find the server at www.ccmix.com."  How much you spending for that webpage?

TH


On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Stefan Tiedje <stefantiedje@googlemail.com> wrote:
Travis Hartnett schrieb:

How dare they provide less than completely reliable service at no charge!

No charge? They charge a lot by letting you provide your content (the music) for free, and then collect money with their annoying ads... I consider this charging...
If they would be smart enough to do it less annoying like google is doing it, I wouldn't mind...

Stefan

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Winamp is fun. One of it's = visualizations is what I=20 used for my first lo fi video experiment.
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3D4fWvZUA0k5w
 
this a low bitrate rendering, I am = learning more as=20 I go. I now have a Flip Ulta videocam.
 
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Cool. I'll switch to = winamp.
Kris
 
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winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations = not the=20 windows ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris...

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen = Hartung=20 <info@krispenhartung.com>=20 wrote:
I really like the plugins that = you can get=20 that run in windows media player, which display random video = effects along=20 with music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent = and=20 free plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations via = audio (mic=20 input on computer)?
 
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I gotta go make the doughnuts...;) http://www.winamp.com/plugins/browse/6/next/51 j ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio > hi Kris, > from the andy-info-archives:- > ***************************************** > > WinAmp has a plug-in called "NullSoft Line-In" ... you > can download it from them if need be. > > Select that plug-in (Options, Preferences, Plug-Ins, Input), then select > File, Location, then type in "linein://" (without quotes) > > I just plugged something into my soundcard line-in and it seems to control > the visualizations ... cool! > > Make sure you hit "Play" in WinAmp .... > > > ....author unknown (on LD) > > ******************************************* > > I've had it working, a lot of fun, > and at Mathon with Matthias we had it projected as we improvised, > with Matt's nephew Johnny hacking the visualizations. > > Have to say though, the i-tunes visualization that Per showed me recently > was pretty amazing, although he thinks it's probably mac only. > > andy butler > > > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> Cool. I'll switch to winamp. >> Kris >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> winamp you can do this... but its own visualisations not the windows >> ones... lots of weird stuff at VJ sites Kris... >> >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:39 AM, Krispen Hartung >> > wrote: >> >> I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows >> media player, which display random video effects along with >> music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent >> and free plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations >> via audio (mic input on computer)? >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> www.looop.no > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1747 - Release Date: 10/26/2008 9:27 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 19:21:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE7393BE86; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VAeGF8qSBT0nJX0gX5wmS085yjvoBulSXSB8xVdxr3k=; b=DyR9ImD1s5mNyLj+QD2zJZAcq2EvXfohXgyGkNpp75aggRZIaMT4Wl+Apg7IiTop6Z L6jzZS755aSpYlPFMItn7SfAEPyVCP6biMVLzoLs36FsbDcYPfckxCIMt+j11X43GDQV rYr/PbxZLQtTiSYSj1On1F5Fs0/5uXv6VhqNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=N9XWYfumlsyS7cD9BYNipGDgC6LkSL8plxG14T5Kp/fFTOZmCcULF8OTxKScESp+g2 t6Wswa3KhojZBKgR2lMtOqXZV+uhJw5qQCRXs5kY+hG6CtVtZYp2JpLXP5DUVHsIIYgu us8aOyE+YPE+Sba3b65UbBGjCR3s8TF9k9I6A= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810261221m5a8f28fbx1dfd33332dc45479@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:21:12 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio In-Reply-To: <4904AB17.5030303@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0810260100q2f9c022ct4390783a1b106d90@mail.gmail.com> <4904AB17.5030303@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 19:21:14 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:38 PM, andy butler wrote: > hi Kris, > from the andy-info-archives:- > ***************************************** > > WinAmp has a plug-in called "NullSoft Line-In" ... you > can download it from them if need be. > > Select that plug-in (Options, Preferences, Plug-Ins, Input), then select > File, Location, then type in "linein://" (without quotes) > > I just plugged something into my soundcard line-in and it seems to control > the visualizations ... cool! > > Make sure you hit "Play" in WinAmp .... > > > ....author unknown (on LD) > > ******************************************* > > I've had it working, a lot of fun, > and at Mathon with Matthias we had it projected as we improvised, > with Matt's nephew Johnny hacking the visualizations. > > Have to say though, the i-tunes visualization that Per showed me recently > was pretty amazing, although he thinks it's probably mac only. But no way to have an external audio input affect the graphics. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 20:10:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37DCB3BE84; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:10:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1a10dcb7-4f51-4085-8496-0e8b4d853992_" X-Originating-IP: [76.126.57.70] From: samba - To: Subject: Re: OT CONSTRAINED RANDOM Mick K Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:10:17 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20081026172306.1F0EA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20081026172306.1F0EA3BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 20:10:17.0647 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD7793F0:01C937A6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:10:19 +0000 (UTC) --_1a10dcb7-4f51-4085-8496-0e8b4d853992_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Shoot =2Conce again I thought I'd come up with an original sound=2Cflangin= g and compressing a fretless to give character to wobbly intonation hitting= open strings alot for a pitch reference.=20 --_1a10dcb7-4f51-4085-8496-0e8b4d853992_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  =3BShoot =2Conce again I thought I'd come up with an original sound=2C= flanging and compressing a fretless to give character to wobbly intonation = hitting open strings alot for a pitch reference.
= --_1a10dcb7-4f51-4085-8496-0e8b4d853992_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 21:00:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D70C33BE86; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:00:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=RC+whPfsDGfEWhx9AMlvo1E2GMGdbAC8zpcNsNl3bbE=; b=hVzx29Lp+7YglJy407zwalwl8/Redqefwc+/0LpegffWHfnWTlCBHJzUwpweAng4jI /PNJPXl8IdLrYT2tNzShiBRX5mHzGU32oM/r/4HAEcmXwYY8tH3jH3Q6y7iBkcpCoLkQ FZbn5WjlTlM+1YTJAzKbdKaOD+qXb8B3aBjhw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=S1nq7Tu8y3CrI7rKP89hW/PgLqCtqsxDaMw5FAEJBGdzr66MIpxN/NMx1DsoOERPZ5 AD8caFm4qRkFHnGY0IZ+0j75XQcAobbVDkUG8CzN8/1PDRNLoyVp1Ju+/XB1FzDCzt4Y 4hFtGcaegcX8qrE5yqVonK/15+HDOgnHE4/4s= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810261400m6a4ce201x8d46c00ef7e8c3fc@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:00:42 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: SNOW - A Pretty little film on vimeo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15851_22992292.1225054842464" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5f0b28bc138012e4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:00:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15851_22992292.1225054842464 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi lads and lasses, Just a bit of spam to say that I just uploaded a new film on Vimeo. Shot last Christmas, the whole edit took 2 hours last night, and most of that was colourising. I just found the (forgotten) music on the hard-drive last night, and thought I=B4d throw something together... Pretty happy with= it actually, lots of time-lapse (as usual) and superimposition's (which I don'= t normally like). Hope you like it!! http://vimeo.com/2070700 Mark --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_15851_22992292.1225054842464 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi lads and lasses,

Just a bit of spam to say that I just uploaded a= new film on Vimeo.
Shot last Christmas, the whole edit took 2 hours la= st night, and most of that was colourising. I just found the (forgotten) mu= sic on the hard-drive last night, and thought I=B4d throw something togethe= r... Pretty happy with it actually, lots of time-lapse (as usual) and super= imposition's (which I don't normally like).
Hope you like it!!

http://vimeo= .com/2070700

Mark

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www.looop.no
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Thanks... guess I have to try one! On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Toby G wrote: > If we're talking about the VG-8: > > You could change the "synth" sounds by affecting the envelope and > filtering. There wasn't much ability to choose a waveform as a basis for > synthesis. > If you're creative you can use the built in effects and pitch shift as > parts of the sound editing. Best things about it were the zero latency a= nd > the fact that it was not sample based synthesis. > > t > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mark francombe > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:02 AM > *Subject:* Re: Moog Guitar > > so it IS possible to mangle? I thought it was supposed to be somewhat > unmaleable... either its possibilities or due to clunky interface? expoun= d > please? > > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Toby G wrote: > >> I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance >> physically. Of course the tones I had coming out of it were pretty >> mangled. >> >> t >> --at the peak of the disco outfreakage... >> >> On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:30 AM, mark francombe >> wrote: >> >> Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say that...Its >> not just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it, therfore making = more >> banjo-like tones >> >> admittedly 6K seems too much, but im sure thats the R&D talking... >> >> some of the videos ive seen have the players explain how the guitar >> actually changes its FEEL as it changes attack modes. This interests me. >> Although Ive said this before on the list - I have a fernandez pickup o= n my >> baritone guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "come= s >> alive", and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme volume leve= ls >> (but WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling. Im sur= e >> that with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free play= ing >> style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as with my m= idi >> guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing style. >> >> Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what is it like to pl= ay >> thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a guitar, or is it more >> like a midi guitar. >> Ive ben considering this system for ages, but I really don=B4t care to g= et a >> system just cos it prtends to me just like the same combination of strat= and >> marshall as Hendrix used on All along the watchtower.. god no.. what is = the >> point (unless you are in the band that plays on the danish/norwegian >> channel...) But Im very interested if I can just plug in my baritone, an= d >> make a new instrument. >> >> Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sure >> Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha ha.. >> >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G < >> carpet8@mac.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm pretty sure the technology is gonna be done cheaper by somebody >>> else in a few years. I think it's a f'n cool guitar. I didn't get tha= t it >>> was that close to being a slide guitar. >>> >>> t >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Krispen Hartung >>> *To:* >>> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM >>> *Subject:* Moog Guitar >>> >>> Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars? >>> >>> http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ >>> >>> At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can creat= e >>> more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use >>> max/msp. Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website m= ake >>> it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an eb= ow. I >>> was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a >>> Roland GR300 but a lot better. >>> >>> Kris >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe >> >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe >> www.looop.no >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > > --=20 www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_15864_16746091.1225055068108 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hmm, thats not what I call mangling ha ha!! Thanks... guess I have to try o= ne!

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Toby= G <carpet8@mac.com= > wrote:
If we're talking about the VG-8:
 
You could change the "synth"= sounds by affecting=20 the envelope and filtering.  There wasn't much ability to choose a= waveform=20 as a basis for synthesis.
If you're creative you can use the= built in effects=20 and pitch shift as parts of the sound editing.  Best things about it w= ere=20 the zero latency and the fact that it was not sample based=20 synthesis.
 
t
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:02=20 AM
Subject: Re: Moog Guitar

so it IS possible to mangle? I thought it was supposed to = be=20 somewhat unmaleable... either its possibilities or due to clunky interfac= e?=20 expound please?

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Toby G <carpet= 8@mac.com>=20 wrote:
I had the first vg8 model. It never really had much resonance=20 physically.  Of course the tones I had coming out of it were prett= y=20 mangled. 

t
--at the peak of the disco outfreakage...


On Oct 26, 2008, at 12:30 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com&g= t; wrote:

Its waaaaay more than a polyphonic ebow!!!! How can you say=20 that...Its not just able to ADD infinate sustain but to reduce it,=20 therfore making more banjo-like tones

 admittedly 6K seem= s too=20 much, but im sure thats the R&D talking...

some of the vi= deos=20 ive seen have the players explain how the guitar actually changes its= FEEL=20 as it changes attack modes. This interests me. Although Ive said this= =20 before on the list -  I have a fernandez pickup on my baritone= =20 guitar, and when it is on (almost all the time) my guitar "comes= alive",=20 and pushes back. Anyone who has worked under extreme volume levels (b= ut=20 WITH earplugs) will know, that is a very satisfying feeling. Im sure = that=20 with less attack (more sustain) comes a relaxed, wild and free playin= g=20 style, wheras short decay (with no accidental re-triggering as with m= y=20 midi guitar sounds) will give a more precise and careful playing=20 style.

Incidentaly, can anyone with the V System tell me, what= is=20 it like to play thru it with loud volume, does it still react as a gu= itar,=20 or is it more like a midi guitar.
Ive ben considering this system = for=20 ages, but I really don=B4t care to get a system just cos it prtends t= o me=20 just like the same combination of strat and marshall as Hendrix used = on=20 All along the watchtower.. god no.. what is the point (unless you are= in=20 the band that plays on the danish/norwegian channel...) But Im very= =20 interested if I can just plug in my baritone, and make a new instrume= nt.=20

Anyway, back to thread, I agree with Toby, any day now Im sur= e=20 Behringer... I mean someone will bring out a cheaper version.. Ha=20 ha..

m






On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Toby G <carpet8@mac.com&= gt;=20 wrote:
I'm pretty sure the techno= logy is gonna be=20 done cheaper by somebody else in a few years.  I think it'= s a f'n=20 cool guitar.  I didn't get that it was that close to being= a slide=20 guitar.
 
t
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen Hartung
Sent:=20 Saturday, October 25, 2008 8:23 PM
Subject:=20 Moog Guitar

Has anyone tried out one of = the Moog=20 Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/

At first glance, $6K see= ms like a lot=20 for a one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I= plug=20 my guitar into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think = of=20 it, the sound clips on the moog website make it sound like just a= n=20 over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow. I was expect= ing=20 some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a Roland = GR300=20 but a lot better.=20

Kris



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--0-907905188-1225055048=:82550-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 21:32:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91F113BE82; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:32:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Ax1DjBEY3UPLLlIYbRpyoYkWxb+K/S/NyPKZORaI5Ts=; b=xkwLG1y7UgWn1Hza+AI2O7u9roXzTfwgcmGuttkEKiQi0BeLq5Rv3YKSenhXBRV1ow vrU9nQnt3zILYmK/itNwCKgRyh+5ifdn6nxXtmBnB6K7PMRM9dHJFsK8qrP17cW28W3I 99ZMLqqggm9yZ3vhDHbBpboC8T7H14Z29mOoE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Mv1zvERPASSFZ6xGwsz2FLZW19sTl7w997F3OnMDPABAkTAZe6kuVMfi1a+zQtRqSl 3EQFA0Duf3j/HCeuYphZS9N4eV6KfiJx8mTKrN868ND9BwHyejIDxgVt3PAAktB43E22 TapIULG8FEe11tHvzBDgVAYkXJKkuL9LlUMxU= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0810261432g278faf09jc3af54a807831aed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:32:04 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SNOW - A Pretty little film on vimeo In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810261400m6a4ce201x8d46c00ef7e8c3fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0810261400m6a4ce201x8d46c00ef7e8c3fc@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:32:06 +0000 (UTC) On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:00 PM, mark francombe w= rote: > Hi lads and lasses, > > Just a bit of spam to say that I just uploaded a new film on Vimeo. > Shot last Christmas, the whole edit took 2 hours last night, and most of > that was colourising. I just found the (forgotten) music on the hard-driv= e > last night, and thought I=B4d throw something together... Pretty happy wi= th it > actually, lots of time-lapse (as usual) and superimposition's (which I do= n't > normally like). > Hope you like it!! > > http://vimeo.com/2070700 > > Mark Wonderful stuff! All of it. per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 21:33:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6F6F3BE84; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=B7ZSb1BhB5psOYU+OZ15zvw5W6rBek93cC6hgEwHvSs=; b=HlxN8mAafLtltS45kV9yBSev2Yl3+ZkWMaNraBTQOqkOn6KJhIHZ2tEOXsSEWfP46o gRmExe1I1WuTmbhGJ2j5vhj4EZaTs+RvDBb8c62F6O57DfUof4+EZtSe0id1Yqk/eT/t wKXzY4X46AUeyehd+Fwe3EdhMP654inDD89tg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=N2zoHOAgaEpj/N+3bmsy63cFuaCcnGJ7BeqSoR2HYN12wZaQQaQbWam9GUlHVFbKAz io1NPhpd9TCJ+5dDoMVrj5Azi5mZuKjrK2WVbogMzsj1/Q+WQlhvddRdd2oOoqbwxvYy NUNMnES0V6y/exi+dn4x2STzOh3NGm5ppCEaY= From: "Tony K" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 17:33:49 -0400 Message-ID: <00e101c937b2$8bf5fbf0$a3e1f3d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93791.04E45BF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack3HI/szrFowt/rRCqr8Wo7FtUVAQAlYYnA Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:33:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93791.04E45BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out G-Force http://www.soundspectrum.com/g-force/ It's not free, but it is very, very cool. The platinum version is $30 and runs as a standalone that processes the line in, mic, etc. Tony From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com] Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:40 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows media player, which display random video effects along with music you play on your computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that allows you to trigger the visualizations via audio (mic input on computer)? Kris No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.3/1744 - Release Date: 10/24/2008 6:08 PM ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93791.04E45BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Check out G-Force http://www.soundspectrum.c= om/g-force/

 

It’s not free, but it is very, very cool.  The platinum version is $30 and runs as a standalone that processes the line = in, mic, etc. 

 

Tony

 

From:= Krispen = Hartung [mailto:info@krispenhartung.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:40 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by = audio

 

I really like the plugins that you can get that run in windows media = player, which display random video effects along with music you play on your = computer. Does anyone know of a decent and free plugin that allows you to trigger = the visualizations via audio (mic input on computer)?

 

Kris

 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C93791.04E45BF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 22:17:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29E7A3BE7E; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [75.174.124.135] X-Originating-Email: [khartung@q.com] Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <9ab0c76f0810260100q2f9c022ct4390783a1b106d90@mail.gmail.com> <4904AB17.5030303@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810261221m5a8f28fbx1dfd33332dc45479@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:17:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2008 22:17:37.0162 (UTC) FILETIME=[A6F90EA0:01C937B8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:17:39 +0000 (UTC) works great! Any visualization plugins that you recommend? There are a lot. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:21 PM Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:38 PM, andy butler > wrote: >> hi Kris, >> from the andy-info-archives:- >> ***************************************** >> >> WinAmp has a plug-in called "NullSoft Line-In" ... you >> can download it from them if need be. >> >> Select that plug-in (Options, Preferences, Plug-Ins, Input), then select >> File, Location, then type in "linein://" (without quotes) >> >> I just plugged something into my soundcard line-in and it seems to >> control >> the visualizations ... cool! >> >> Make sure you hit "Play" in WinAmp .... >> >> >> ....author unknown (on LD) >> >> ******************************************* >> >> I've had it working, a lot of fun, >> and at Mathon with Matthias we had it projected as we improvised, >> with Matt's nephew Johnny hacking the visualizations. >> >> Have to say though, the i-tunes visualization that Per showed me recently >> was pretty amazing, although he thinks it's probably mac only. > > > But no way to have an external audio input affect the graphics. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > www.stockholm-athens.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 26 22:20:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A36763BE82; Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=/JjRBTZQ9zKVzT/XOwzoeRk1DTt5f5+Vb3bHJk5rENU=; b=NGF3ACU+Z0oY3ToM/2SYByRoa9SN7/Jos4D/+lIjtXFRRMGKdAcO6napjxE/HGTmqC oUg2gPZXBFHjNhOHo8zfXsmKfvkEBS7uai/tXPetoXG6yx1I6cVqskUj2cKXIdzYhgA0 20a/usPWaku0prPQTkw4gk4F+qyQaYQ60pRog= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=DZ4ZPdFjMUtr8sYA0AMUnPLR6I4Qhxy2/9CT5E8S/YBsk6AzwFAyHzmbUHNdWZjyPR +MxqP+ss0C01BWUMjj2m8Jw2L4adE9GMzUnCerLO9FDFywLUHd/QjWzOwiIQCEGHZngk /09MLNQWIfRnLv0X5c3EmiXJpXoQFEpPBWzhY= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:20:28 -0700 From: Nick Sender: collective.reality@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Firewire audio interface recommendations - late reply In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_88795_31403850.1225059628455" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 46fe033de4602bd2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:20:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_88795_31403850.1225059628455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hmmm tough comparison. except now I have to ask a few questions :P What is a post-converter? It looks to me like the audiofire 4 has midi in/out too so they're even on that front, right? It looks like the firebox has preamps, and one more out, so what I'm wondering is: what does the audiofire 4 have that the firebox doesn't? I don't currently know what would make one consider the audiofire over the firebox, so please let me know if there are things. The things I care about way more than anything are still audio clarity, having virtually 0 lag, and (It sounds like all firewire interfaces do this though) being able to selec= t each in/out/headphones/etc seperately in ableton live. thanks again, Nick On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > > 2008/10/26 Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill > >> >> for some time), I really like the Presonus Firebox. There is one advanta= ge >> of it over a lot of other interfaces, and that is that it has an analogu= e >> level knob (post-converter) for the main outs. > > > Also you can assign -10 or +4 line levels to the minijack output of the a= 2, > which gives you the knob control, not with the main output but enough for > monitoring. > > This is why they call the a2 4in-6out. > > ra=FCl. > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > ------=_Part_88795_31403850.1225059628455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hmmm tough comparison. except now I have to ask a few questions :P

W= hat is a post-converter?

It looks to me like the audiofire 4 has mid= i in/out too so they're even on that front, right?

It looks like= the firebox has preamps, and one more out, so what I'm wondering is: w= hat does the audiofire 4 have that the firebox doesn't? I don't cur= rently know what would make one consider the audiofire over the firebox, so= please let me know if there are things. The things I care about way more t= han anything are still audio clarity, having virtually 0 lag, and (It sound= s like all firewire interfaces do this though) being able to select each in= /out/headphones/etc seperately in ableton live.

thanks again,
Nick

On Sun, Oct 26,= 2008 at 7:04 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:


2008/10/26 Rainer Thelonius Balthasar St= raschill <rs@moinlabs.de>


for some time), I really like the Presonus Firebox. There is one advantage<= br> of it over a lot of other interfaces, and that is that it has an analogue level knob (post-converter) for the main outs.

=
Also you can assign -10 or +4 line levels to the minijack output= of the a2, which gives you the knob control, not with the main output but = enough for monitoring.

This is why they call the a2 4in-6out.

ra=FCl.

--
The P= laying Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace= .com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http:/= /www.jamendo.com

------=_Part_88795_31403850.1225059628455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 00:44:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F31E13BE86; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=OeIVrfnATnC7ludarWRdLPgYSKSDu2srLyjqhZ4Qi3E=; b=ctXtafvqr+t1c3l0+yT9Mt4BIcr4RvGqO9snBZRUHKZ9Njgvt8BhOjhAwJg+DF+Ta7 atknBgVM2oPHh6YQFDtUb8fBchPzObg8OZT3EYFOZrG31+XAIDpZwEJ9/LqwPioMjBtu RaLzv5CYMouclKBFBpqwJqNwoCVhCkG8lzuYI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=i1S0GG7QKC1VER9U7px5j+CDA9ULigz1Yg2RVOFEzjpQKAoVG44ZYhVQdmX9FGWMN9 YXVSFpt8bEDic25vI0GgujeNe9PKuVVAeBaPp10kOjLx+Vo5oNxyR06XU9yZRLX9zZGc s/FlHVOxFAmEGDGKjzNFSTDIqm3B08Yqr6/Sw= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810261744i1d99febci59fe5379a45666fa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:44:19 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SNOW - A Pretty little film on vimeo In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810261432g278faf09jc3af54a807831aed@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0810261400m6a4ce201x8d46c00ef7e8c3fc@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0810261432g278faf09jc3af54a807831aed@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2b10tD.A.WRE.k7QBJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:44:20 +0000 (UTC) Sounds and looks great Mark! Should we start a loopers delight Vimeo group? Have lots of cool looping vids all in one spot? I'm gonna check it out now to see how you start a group on the site. Todd On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:00 PM, mark francombe = wrote: >> Hi lads and lasses, >> >> Just a bit of spam to say that I just uploaded a new film on Vimeo. >> Shot last Christmas, the whole edit took 2 hours last night, and most of >> that was colourising. I just found the (forgotten) music on the hard-dri= ve >> last night, and thought I=B4d throw something together... Pretty happy w= ith it >> actually, lots of time-lapse (as usual) and superimposition's (which I d= on't >> normally like). >> Hope you like it!! >> >> http://vimeo.com/2070700 >> >> Mark > > > Wonderful stuff! All of it. > > per > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 00:57:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D5123BE82; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:57:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Moog Guitar Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:57:25 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.13.207.2 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: mizuho@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB05E61C907FC0_F74_17ED_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CB05E61C8958B8-F74-B79@WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:57:31 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CB05E61C907FC0_F74_17ED_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I thought the same thing. The VG-99 does it all and much more if you spend time programing it. I have a quickly done Moog guitar emulation sample produced by the Roland VG-99: The VG-99 has endless sustain and a world of sounds done with out pitch to CV or Midi. Its all pure Audio Remodeling". Sadly it seems seems to have gone right over most peoples radar. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668 Bill -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:23 pm Subject: Moog Guitar Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars?? http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/ At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use max/msp.? Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better. Kris ----------MB_8CB05E61C907FC0_F74_17ED_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
I thought the same thing.
The VG-99 does it all and much more if you spend time programing it.
I have a quickly done Moog guitar emulation sample produced by the Roland VG-99:
The VG-99 has endless sustain and a world of sounds done with out pitch to CV or Midi.
Its all pure Audio Remodeling".
Sadly it seems seems to have gone right over most peoples radar.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668

Bill



-----Original Message-----
From: Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:23 pm
Subject: Moog Guitar

Has anyone tried out one of the Moog Guitars?  http://www.moogmusic.com/moogguitar/

At first glance, $6K seems like a lot for a one-trick pony. I can create more interesting sounds when I plug my guitar into my laptop and use max/msp.  Now that I think of it, the sound clips on the moog website make it sound like just an over glorified slide guitar or guitar using an ebow. I was expecting some fat moog like sounds coming out of a guitar...like a Roland GR300 but a lot better.

Kris
----------MB_8CB05E61C907FC0_F74_17ED_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 01:00:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26F103BE82; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:00:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qQHuMt3Dg0kx9965d4URUwygT6L5rcO8JOaW2rgKnoY=; b=tu0UnkBkR5xlVrOIGDmfMLuWVAxVbNl6rWQSZShWlJvOJ7JfjG8dZc0l3c8OVcqV7p KFMmvwaE+sS1eSkcZ1zDLvIastanB7lwWAhVm6wGn5Ta+HvCdPATv2SzqO908dc4AFcM 9GzzFTcg+sdjNVYJWXmLQWc1HIYRsM6wCODHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=T68beHnSoZExCXVAHKFoNBUBwojbLdSaV314z2qgF8MlbHLBA4l3FxDDpnyuU2P89E 3X0FHa1Br//umBHcPEdaWLdqKQjndE3Hn5IvCOlU6JDO54iaJ1OrZZy4h+iIspy5xrCw Oy/h7MLMteiRKrFQa5sFYlLTgDRc0vfVm0UG0= Message-ID: <9e0440a60810261800g7da1519ek190cf38133ac89c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:00:18 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SNOW - A Pretty little film on vimeo In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0810261400m6a4ce201x8d46c00ef7e8c3fc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_56994_4264323.1225069218684" References: <9ab0c76f0810261400m6a4ce201x8d46c00ef7e8c3fc@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:00:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_56994_4264323.1225069218684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Mark like it a lot particularly overlaying of video. Are you getting time lapse by changing frame rate or using a plug-in/efx for that if I might ask= ? Hope things went positive for your wife's recent treatment... Jim Goodin On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:00 PM, mark francombe wro= te: > Hi lads and lasses, > > Just a bit of spam to say that I just uploaded a new film on Vimeo. > Shot last Christmas, the whole edit took 2 hours last night, and most of > that was colourising. I just found the (forgotten) music on the hard-driv= e > last night, and thought I=B4d throw something together... Pretty happy wi= th it > actually, lots of time-lapse (as usual) and superimposition's (which I do= n't > normally like). > Hope you like it!! > > http://vimeo.com/2070700 > > Mark > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > www.looop.no > --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_56994_4264323.1225069218684 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Mark like it a lot particularly overlaying of video.  Are you get= ting time lapse by changing frame rate or using a plug-in/efx for that= if I might ask?
 
Hope things went positive for your wife's recent treatment...
 
Jim Goodin

On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:00 PM, mark francombe = <mark@markfr= ancombe.com> wrote:
Hi lads and lasses,

Just = a bit of spam to say that I just uploaded a new film on Vimeo.
Shot las= t Christmas, the whole edit took 2 hours last night, and most of that was c= olourising. I just found the (forgotten) music on the hard-drive last night= , and thought I=B4d throw something together... Pretty happy with it actual= ly, lots of time-lapse (as usual) and superimposition's (which I don= 9;t normally like).
Hope you like it!!

http://vimeo.com/2070700

Mark

--
www.markfrancombe.com
http= ://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe
http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe
www.looop.no



--
The Acoustic World G= uitar of Jim Goodin  - http:= //www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://w= ww.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapa= inting on My Space -
http://www.myspac= e.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 oth= er creative souls - http://www.= woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://= www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by M= el Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.me= lbay.com
------=_Part_56994_4264323.1225069218684-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 01:09:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99E633BE84; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=sKWDJc8keMVk/eRwG5wUjLB6PHT8FBTnm47PjydWFS0=; b=TQYTNkJJR7LMCnTyx2x5Wo63h7U/BlYCd4Z948x8czCUrLm0f0uvkc9v6GxxBa1Ujc 0HRFRRl37cX3rRyGbzpcVu5nlcITL1GYqaf+MhsiDE3TUZ9Lomdvgaxzej9rk4LU6uFs CL3xd8AOq4VAKX843S1djsf0ZWuDi+a7qvAHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=YQwbjXFiDtLJioLX/0PtM1OsPu53sXH3Llln5mgz4/u5zLXZJe6izxy6Js8NEqLdCJ KFLPZ9Tk81tc2v4PrUUoc/29CBbYB2wF+Hl/uclCc2o5CwK24cUju8gZBj5tM6ZwGwDS oCPMT3XCNv9oVQULeFY/+SjeVWatd25aqWxU4= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810261809h39390055s56d637af9aacd12a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:09:54 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New Vimeo Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:09:55 +0000 (UTC) It was pretty easy to set up the Vimeo group. www.vimeo.com/groups/loopers It could be a place to have great looping videos all in one spot and it also has a calender so everyone can have their events/gigs all posted on same the calender! This could be really cool. Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 01:17:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7864D3BE84; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=30onL7SpVSwaG/r+3Tbb/BMhctD6WYrW8orZKWiWkMo=; b=F3kNz+Bg+D4l1/dg/UmgKy2M6ZPjVYO9OfZw7mU9CxxBa9NwdBF2uBrZhEpgyNbwAF Ff3cB0L3Hwg9F/uS3AlO06I0Fa21ThG7YR3RdxcrgBmHK4NLFONtCjY4R66LbGfx23wM vEHDKK5bA/jpEfnisZEUbVK+QboEQlRo//sNU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=pAuwLyJCsut0eifWdJ5ri5v17PPnF53GD+YCBwR6qHP75n8X6vx3tvxcpxgBpxBnKz 2QDJoJVHzzvuo67RbyjQVVJzFWOO5aND/mS08IX7HpjyKCfYgGJqZ5y6b3gGm1MuAk1k 1ttRYJnhPGYO0VgZTUCS0zlKFL8OOu6qbq9RI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:17:47 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Moog Guitar In-Reply-To: <8CB05E61C8958B8-F74-B79@WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_82205_6537545.1225070267857" References: <8CB05E61C8958B8-F74-B79@WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:17:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_82205_6537545.1225070267857 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You can't have endless sustain without physically driving the string beyond its natural decay rate, but the VG-99 did indeed pass largely unnoticed in the retro-rage guitar world of today. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM, wrote: > I thought the same thing. > The VG-99 does it all and much more if you spend time programing it. > I have a quickly done Moog guitar emulation sample produced by the Roland > VG-99: > The VG-99 has endless sustain and a world of sounds done with out pitch to > CV or Midi. > Its all pure Audio Remodeling". > Sadly it seems seems to have gone right over most peoples radar. > > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668 > > Bill > > ------=_Part_82205_6537545.1225070267857 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You can't have endless sustain without physically driving the string beyond its natural decay rate, but the VG-99 did indeed pass largely unnoticed in the retro-rage guitar world of today.


On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM, <mizuho@aol.com> wrote:
I thought the same thing.
The VG-99 does it all and much more if you spend time programing it.
I have a quickly done Moog guitar emulation sample produced by the Roland VG-99:
The VG-99 has endless sustain and a world of sounds done with out pitch to CV or Midi.
Its all pure Audio Remodeling".
Sadly it seems seems to have gone right over most peoples radar.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668

Bill


------=_Part_82205_6537545.1225070267857-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 01:18:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C08E3BE84; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=xkEgg4MiGebXHaldpgt2b89dLhY2QiPtqnrN0aHQhc4=; b=dEyXR2wTlzBYtsLArSPmivzpUHcs6YPPHNEgYGV1piYNIodhl7IlMMa4+pMWdqc6VI Pny+V+ag/vFbVXZQF1EEbTzaUEijnWsDPV52M4UMyc/TgtC9G6CVayhmq1szHv/rNuO8 Yt3K+//USlyVhBeW5uDBGzsVQGcYKnWTrZvZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=PD+h548KQBsjChr6OagGdcv8FJocD2Zwq2BmjjQaXvj1R2RBiR4g4b+lpmRU2cXAKc JTqeR0BgcgrWEsJarlOEpgMoq5N8275DwrqfJj2hQHQXT5eMRowfXXg2Ke9T8y58x2Pa PkbZZKqQL+RJyiSxMco6wAgrYJHen1cXB0oC0= Message-ID: <9ea2f30b0810261818p3f979616g5972a48751179584@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:18:18 -0400 From: "Todd Matthews" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Vimeo Group In-Reply-To: <9ea2f30b0810261809h39390055s56d637af9aacd12a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ea2f30b0810261809h39390055s56d637af9aacd12a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7gATh.A.-aF.abRBJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 01:18:19 +0000 (UTC) The vimeo group also allows file sharring for group members. FIle formats allowed are mp3, jpg, gif, png, pdf, doc. Todd On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Todd Matthews wrote: > It was pretty easy to set up the Vimeo group. > > > www.vimeo.com/groups/loopers > > It could be a place to have great looping videos all in one spot and > it also has a calender so everyone can have their events/gigs all > posted on same the calender! This could be really cool. > > > Todd > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 02:21:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 566903BE86; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:21:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:21:59 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #603 for October 23, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <490533D7.4060106@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:21:41 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/081023.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #603 October 23, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk three from Poland 2004 on the Ricochet Dream label. Ricochet Gathering: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#oct THANK YOU to the following Galactic Travels listener(s) who made secure on-line pledges during WDIY's Fall Membership Drive. Supporter from Bozeman, MT pledged Oct 25 at 2:09 PM Supporter from Bozeman, MT pledged Oct 23 at 10:38 AM YOU can pledge support to WDIY and Galactic Travels at any time at: http://wdiy.org/pledge PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Lucette Boudin City Interlude Stories From The City (Dark Duck) Klaus Schulze Buddy Laugh Body Love Vol.2 (Revisited) Thr Glimmer Room Home Without the Home Without the Journey Journey trk 1-2 (none) Ricochet Gathering Arcane track 1 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Arcane track 2 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Ricochet Gathering Arcane track 3 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Arcane track 4 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Sunya Beat track 5 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Sunya Beat track 6 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Marek Bilinski tk7 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Marek Bilinski tk8 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Marek Bilinski tk9 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) Ricochet Gathering Marek Bilinski tk10 Poland 2004 d3(Ricochet Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on the Ricochet Gathering. The Featured CD at Midnight will be disk four from Poland 2004 on the Ricochet Dream label. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://war.str3am.com:7880/listen.pls http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy.asx http://mysite.verizon.net/schlhserky/wdiystreamtests/hearwdiy2.ram To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 03:48:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F7003BE81; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <8CB05E61C8958B8-F74-B79@WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Moog Guitar Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:48:02 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 24.13.207.2 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: mizuho@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB05FDF268E640_F74_244D_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CB05FDF261BF38-F74-1164@WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: <8t1mzD.A.jHB.2nTBJB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:48:06 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CB05FDF268E640_F74_244D_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Physical" endless sustain, no you are correct.......but with the help of granular looping and seamless truncating, polyphonic electronic endless sustain is possible with the VG-99. With proper playing techniques its all possible. ?To me as an Electronic Guitarist, what ends up at the end of a 1/4 cable is the most important thing. I have endless sustain with the playability of my regular guitar with regular strings plus a boatload more of possibilities. Bill - From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 8:17 pm Subject: Re: Moog Guitar You can't have endless sustain without physically driving the string beyond its natural decay rate, but the VG-99 did indeed pass largely unnoticed in the retro-rage guitar world of today. On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM, wrote: I thought the same thing. The VG-99 does it all and much more if you spend time programing it. I have a quickly done Moog guitar emulation sample produced by the Roland VG-99: The VG-99 has endless sustain and a world of sounds done with out pitch to CV or Midi. Its all pure Audio Remodeling". Sadly it seems seems to have gone right over most peoples radar. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668 Bill ----------MB_8CB05FDF268E640_F74_244D_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" "Physical" endless sustain, no you are correct.......but with the help of granular looping and seamless truncating, polyphonic electronic endless sustain is possible with the VG-99.
With proper playing techniques its all possible.
 To me as an Electronic Guitarist, what ends up at the end of a 1/4 cable is the most important thing.
I have endless sustain with the playability of my regular guitar with regular strings plus a boatload more of possibilities.
Bill




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From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: Moog Guitar

You can't have endless sustain without physically driving the string beyond its natural decay rate, but the VG-99 did indeed pass largely unnoticed in the retro-rage guitar world of today.


On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 5:57 PM, <mizuho@aol.com> wrote:
I thought the same thing.
The VG-99 does it all and much more if you spend time programing it.
I have a quickly done Moog guitar emulation sample produced by the Roland VG-99:
The VG-99 has endless sustain and a world of sounds done with out pitch to CV or Midi.
Its all pure Audio Remodeling".
Sadly it seems seems to have gone right over most peoples radar.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=853668

Bill


----------MB_8CB05FDF268E640_F74_244D_WEBMAIL-MY31.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 04:09:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F3F83BE81; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:09:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=tQzaVeg3uhD/X+P3vtWU1tJhc/Q+WA0kcmh0ry0PX6oImUh/uOA2rqSFBIGJ+3z+s16YjpHqklkVxkV5B+P6vAwA4IkXgbmesvvSXoXA9udbSNOljL3cCairZtSwLXHrYyyfD1fo2RoRalhMUOr8tROOiytGhL62PwfHIGGHsSQ=; X-YMail-OSG: rXANXCAVM1nT9A6LxI93HU7GWqAQUN0RfoSzLbbvnV..evqk13AsIVhJMLlkHYANxZm.nsNNolFwp11aOngGcmprgKwv3e.B_wlr_03e3Pkg7OiGJzuvbJTkLGX2u.ZOKVhKQSpKagq8vav2aaHgRDn_kN5hXgmc.pHG0po- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.247.3 Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Moog Guitar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-117301100-1225080562=:56405" Message-ID: <184445.56405.qm@web50303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:09:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-117301100-1225080562=:56405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I don't care to engage in a discussion of the cost effectiveness of the Moog guitar. Honestly, I am glad it cost more than most are willing to pay. And I'll be curious to see if Behrenger or anyone else comes out with a cheaper version. Seems unlikely. In the meantime, at Sweetwater, the first "tiger eye" model to come in has my name on it. Unfortunately, delivery has been pushed back again, now it supposed to arrive in December.We'll see. --0-117301100-1225080562=:56405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I don't care to engage in a discussion of the cost effectiveness of the Moog guitar. Honestly, I am glad it cost more than most are willing to pay. And I'll be curious to see if Behrenger or anyone else comes out with a cheaper version. Seems unlikely.

In the meantime, at Sweetwater, the first "tiger eye" model to come in has my name on it. Unfortunately, delivery has been pushed back again, now it supposed to arrive in December. We'll see.

--0-117301100-1225080562=:56405-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 07:04:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705993BE84; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <92CFCEE6-DC2F-423A-87D4-A74B962EB1AB@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081026213400.635E13BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: FS: Lexicon JamMan with 32sec expansion Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:04:49 -0700 References: <20081026213400.635E13BE8D@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:04:57 +0000 (UTC) hi- so, my JamMan is up for sale on ebay. thought maybe one of you might be interested. it's in good shape, but i like the Repeater a little better. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260305103285&_trksid=p3907.m32&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling thanks! - tyler / battery cage - www.batterycage.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 27 08:54:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7234E3BE84; Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=1dSF7uH56HLMoC2LBJIxogvAmi7lth2cXlXtr3AlCWU=; b=K2/LUjBsOw9bUbAoBziWYCvQIdziysrPHJ1PrRRCeASS52R84jAtr36n5flpgHDUno YGnEPiNoSVw7DXnULQhldXz1HF35fgf3A4El9CgqKh7V40DpQnXIxhino2ojmbHDxOwf rZ1X5LOBIXxc5qSMkmMK/q9rxUoC6oUIHKkNs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=U4aM+5bKT5ewaAjmjZLy6WI/2NkvC01sx/HZZ89X8qyMvYrNRRDs0ZZ1b8ZqSfOE08 uT9w76wORub/dx5Un20btSwzhE8foTcIPcWADc/GJnBYhlLIjGYg0TMAWPFZViUQL9Sm 9LMBfXPcfp+kzh2qYAule+TUoIgEL16+j5k8s= Message-ID: <490581C3.7050405@googlemail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:54:27 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Video Visualization in Windows Media Player activated by audio References: <9ab0c76f0810260100q2f9c022ct4390783a1b106d90@mail.gmail.com> <4904AB17.5030303@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0810261221m5a8f28fbx1dfd33332dc45479@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0810261221m5a8f28fbx1dfd33332dc45479@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Tiedje Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:54:33 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen schrieb: > But no way to have an external audio input affect the graphics. Just send it back in, either with a split cable, or route it from your interface... I was always wondering who the artists are who create these plug-ins. As I am on a Mac, you get this sort of stuff also in iTunes, but I have never seen an artists name mentioned for the visuals which come with iTunes. I think this is not fair, these artists are the Van Goghs of today, and deserve respect... Of course it would be possible to create such things in Max/MSP/Jitter and feed it directly with whatever sound you like... 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