From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 05:39:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C86DE3C048; Thu, 1 May 2008 05:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <8F6247506F234821A85BAC7ABDF8B9B1@WilliamsonPC> From: "Rick Williamson" To: Subject: Bebe Barron Passes Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 00:33:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 05:39:34 +0000 (UTC) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/movies/25barron.html "Bebe Barron, who with her husband Louis composed the first electronic score for a feature film - the eerie gulps and burbles, echoes and weeeoooos that accentuated invisible monsters and robotic creatures in the 1956 science-fiction classic "Forbidden Planet" - died Sunday in Los Angeles. She was 82." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 06:01:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61CED3C050; Thu, 1 May 2008 06:01:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Z39YB3Gv8DLmtzJx00V8+nHQorcbz4u3OQq0SfoI8kHM5ooroZ0wfOsiIDqkJsrvTBTxADn++rY/Umtntf8YMPc9jnIZQ/7FNmTMtiDUdwbLeKJb824eWzHc9asz9l2QMazNVu+uS6it7ElIFfuL2Jwv0H7vL14rBBLtMBmnO1s=; X-YMail-OSG: H7c6PlcVM1kINgjx.Ir03A0uMCUi53rAWVcvittc_qOGyBGbh.SICLYB89LzoIX06eeEP.Ox5HqyHEUqhP7h8HGf9dslgxbHys4AQxSxZcaaslQWaqh_tDKmoPA- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:01:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 06:01:55 +0000 (UTC) whats that effect at the begining Belew is doing? > And, it's on youtube of course. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo* www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 06:51:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FFF63BFDB; Thu, 1 May 2008 06:51:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EHkVsKRFSmDGdbHH7e1tH75aw3T/TKGc8k7zfEW25CGg33SrqSqEvXXL5+7BvaOnioxk+74p3ZOW09HDeGck61dZOokmY2+0gJ4qLqQlD1h5UpKzwAisGSnXkNuiyW92z9ouST3sS4BRC7uOYMM/rK8dFeT3GWUY9r3o138jEP8=; X-YMail-OSG: 1l5bsF8VM1lqrRnlqW9BkqmB_yc0hFBmlf3kH8tcW_OAIUcat64T2gE4nj56mlbbCZvd3so0w3n9M9cubllQyo0dAm1SMO0YLqDm4zF5ux.Ah_S6N4ZLGbuGMo8- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: David Bowie guitarrist using looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720831FFCB@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <749901.12487.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7ydOJB.A.DzC.ThWGIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 06:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Carlos Alomar who played in most of my favorite Bowie albums used the beige Oberheim EDP as i recall in one of the guitar player magazines picture.Dont know if he still does,he had an amazing "Kuehlschrank"! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 07:24:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E80A3BF0E; Thu, 1 May 2008 07:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=G8Rk3zDDmgor28tniWttyXGbbv7WxPLpXHYE38VGGx8PL+HU0cz3iVbmvhOpCzzyA6jy1cV1nV3KgXVy8Y2gS+ZXCVwugdo4oZf1o+g1Apd7QrtgheQPeytung4O7UIZuhvJExl8sUgoiwcwEHklNcSFygIZjWj59Yb2kfrmq3s=; X-YMail-OSG: 58T7ybQVM1n9nCV_s0.TfHPVRXy69IlXGRPtq2H8M.AyGfaqcFfnO08B37ZU6yJBhWwb2Y1lMkeLy5MDZAwk4c8SAVIY_cGjnUxYw3h3zcgs0QzgBS9yXdu2UfQ- Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 00:24:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: amplifying a national steel dobro guitar To: billwalker@baymoon.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <006501c8a628$d772d970$6a01a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <721976.14572.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 07:24:29 +0000 (UTC) talking about Brozman,he seems to just mic his national guitar,but are there pickups outhere specially designed for this guitars?ive tried a few of them but the ones that come with humbuckers take away the character of their sound. cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 08:06:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFD173BF4F; Thu, 1 May 2008 08:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <010b01c8a766$ed596260$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <010b01c8a766$ed596260$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) (Adrian B.) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 04:06:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 08:06:38 +0000 (UTC) He definitely uses live looping. He used a DL4 on the last tour he did. he used to use an EH 16 second delay. he has and likes the Eventide Time Factor but doesn't use it for looping. I know because I helped him setup his pedal board. I'm gonna see him this weekend... I'll ask him more about it. Teddy On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > Has anyone actually seen Adrian Belew use live looping on stage > during a live show? > So far noone has really attested to his live looper status. -- PS. http://myspace.com/mistershifty new live recordings -- Teddy K and Mister Shifty future shows May 7th at Lucille's Bar and Grill (B.B. King's NYC) featuring Chuck MacKinnon, 8pm - 1am May 8th at Nightingale Lounge, NYC 9-12 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 10:03:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8381D3BF78; Thu, 1 May 2008 10:03:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_418b99e9-d061-440c-ae66-c925c784bfa2_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.81.118] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: MIDI tap shoes Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:03:45 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2008 10:03:45.0895 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4C36770:01C8AB72] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:03:47 +0000 (UTC) --_418b99e9-d061-440c-ae66-c925c784bfa2_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable have you heard the wonderful works of Tilly and the Wall ? tap backing ahoy! Phill From: im_to_up_myself@hotmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSub= ject: MIDI tap shoesDate: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:37:18 +1000 Hi, Im a professional tap dancer and i would really love to give these sho= es a go. Im also in a band and we are really interested in incorporating ta= p into the rhythm section. if you could send me the instructions on how to= wire them that would be so fucking awsome thanks........later=20 Click here Search for local singles online @ Lavalife.=20 _________________________________________________________________ Win Indiana Jones prizes with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/= --_418b99e9-d061-440c-ae66-c925c784bfa2_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable have you heard the wonderful works of Tilly and the Wall ?
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Hi,
 
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Invite your Facebook friends to Messenger!= Get Started! = --_418b99e9-d061-440c-ae66-c925c784bfa2_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 10:44:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1671E3BF7E; Thu, 1 May 2008 10:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008c01c8ab78$5a6a4bc0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: Bob Brozman Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 03:44:32 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:44:33 +0000 (UTC) Dennis wrote: "Actually, all those trance-inducement practices depend on their mutual abilities to trigger the appropriate brain-wave activity ,,,,,,,, ........... while the "manifestations" appear different (internal vs. external, mental vs. physical, etc.,) those can pretty easily be attributed to the culturally different "set" of the trance-induction situation itself. Musically, or should I say physio-psycho-acoustically, the same things are happening in all of the traditions. ............................... It all comes down to brainwaves. If you can train in on those, you can trigger it. After all, remember what the dormouse said ..." Feed your head, Feed your head. thanks for your insight, Dennis. I respect your knowledge on this subject but my own experience doesn't agree entirely with your conclusions (it's okay to agree to disagree, here, I think and I want to let you know that I respect your research and personal experiences) The only thing I can say is that after having done a tradtional Peyote sweat lodge ritual with completely non-syncopated rhythms and having watched a Haitian Vodun ceremony where people were 'possessed' by the Orishas after the famous 'crack in the universe' polyrhythmic breaks were played that disrupted the trance inducing polyrhythmic drumming of the three drummers, the quality of trance was vastly different in form and energy. I do believe that it's all down to brain rhythms and certain entrainments as you say, but I think there are lots of different mental states that can be achieved by different methods which may differ radically from each other, both in their triggers and in their manifestations. These all are 'altered states'. I am not, however, an expert, and I'd love to learn more about this subject. I"m only working from what I know and the intellectual paradigm that came from the the information theory garnered from studying with Gregory Bateson and, to a lesser extent, John Grinder. It's rather difficult to strap electrodes onto trance participants (unless someone has perveresely accomplished this without my knowledge---do you know more about this, Dennis?) so it would be difficult to really solve this dialectic from a Western scientific pardagimatic approach but I would be flabbergasted if the brain is doing the same to both sets of trancees in this case. What else can you add to this, Dennis? I"m curious to know more about the depth of your knowledge. respectfully Rick PS only one thing really bothers me about your post, I have to admit, though: why on earth did you stop drumming? It seems to be one of the very quickest way to get people to entrain that I know of. Last night I played with the Akron Family (and the DoDos) at an amazing gig where we just played the simplest rhythms in the world and the capacity crowd went ape shit crazy. There was definitely trance action happening. I was aware of it in my self..........in the musicians on the stage and definitely in the crazed dancing crowd by looking in their ectstatic faces. LOL.........................now we have to segue, of course, back to the tediious drummer joke thread that I inadverntently started (with apologies to the whole list). Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 11:06:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE29F3BF78; Thu, 1 May 2008 11:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=puTj7sUD5H0VqLZCN1YBg31bsyZEIzUpuL5S11UVbusYcWbhrMDOMvIFtOqaalQ7wkG6HbCGp907/ChQ6uOTPCsBcpMilEdkj4qOdjwTuVEHA/5zqu+oPrT2h8TU20bje6bjrcyqMZd7lZvBof7vzeGLHqxUA6awo+hMF6ri5L8=; X-YMail-OSG: KMxMf2QVM1keixMwF0nnZTXSZl5U5vLLpIp8NB0L.TltQWaUIKeY6nKHGrx0x01Q9eSL18mnHcRQQnH5Lwi9nvNNgZ6uatRf29lqUUUnIM3SLIUTV4A4XTQo3Oo- Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 04:06:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) (Adrian B.) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <637300.35055.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Hey Teddy, great that you can set up a legends pedalboard!! is he using all those x-tra switches to control the timefactor or is he doing it via MIDI? can you share his current pedalboard? ive been messing with the TF lately what a great pedal! cheers Luis --- Teddy Kumpel wrote: > He definitely uses live looping. He used a DL4 on > the last tour he did. > he used to use an EH 16 second delay. > he has and likes the Eventide Time Factor but > doesn't use it for > looping. > I know because I helped him setup his pedal board. > > I'm gonna see him this weekend... I'll ask him more > about it. > > Teddy > > On Apr 26, 2008, at 2:29 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > Has anyone actually seen Adrian Belew use live > looping on stage > > during a live show? > > So far noone has really attested to his live > looper status. > > > > > > -- > PS. > http://myspace.com/mistershifty > new live recordings > -- > Teddy K and Mister Shifty future shows > May 7th at Lucille's Bar and Grill (B.B. King's NYC) > featuring Chuck > MacKinnon, 8pm - 1am > May 8th at Nightingale Lounge, NYC 9-12 > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 12:56:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98A2F3BF78; Thu, 1 May 2008 12:56:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8de40de9-172a-4a49-b15a-714e6f9cf5c3_" X-Originating-IP: [121.44.39.137] From: Brett Newton To: Subject: RE: MIDI tap shoes Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:56:52 +1000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2008 12:56:52.0424 (UTC) FILETIME=[D39DF480:01C8AB8A] Resent-Message-ID: <3ScBm.A.hnE.V4bGIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:56:53 +0000 (UTC) --_8de40de9-172a-4a49-b15a-714e6f9cf5c3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah i've herd tilly and the wall. my bands catchphrase is "we're better th= an tilly and the wall" hahahaha =20 im currently involved in TAP DOGS so we will be featuring the tap fairly he= avily From: phillwilson@hotmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSubject= : RE: MIDI tap shoesDate: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:03:45 +0000 have you heard the wonderful works of Tilly and the Wall ?tap backing ahoy!= Phill From: im_to_up_myself@hotmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSub= ject: MIDI tap shoesDate: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:37:18 +1000 Hi, Im a professional tap dancer and i would really love to give these sho= es a go. Im also in a band and we are really interested in incorporating ta= p into the rhythm section. if you could send me the instructions on how to= wire them that would be so fucking awsome thanks........later=20 Click here Search for local singles online @ Lavalife.=20 Invite your Facebook friends to Messenger! Get Started!=20 _________________________________________________________________ Be part of history. Take part in Australia's first e-mail archive with Emai= l Australia. http://emailaustralia.ninemsn.com.au= --_8de40de9-172a-4a49-b15a-714e6f9cf5c3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah i've herd tilly and the wall. my bands catchphrase is "we're better th= an tilly and the wall" hahahaha
 
im currently involved in TAP DOGS so we will be featuring the tap fairly he= avily


From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSubject: RE: MIDI tap shoes
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:03:45 +0000
have you heard the wonderful works of Tilly and the Wall ?
tap backing a= hoy!
Phill


From: im_to_up_myself@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Subject: MIDI tap shoes
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:37:18 +1000
 
Hi,
 
Im a professional tap dancer and i would really = love to give these shoes a go. Im also in a band and we are really interest= ed in incorporating tap into the rhythm section.
 
if you = could send me the instructions on how to wire them that would be so fucking= awsome
 
thanks........later 

Click here Search for local singles online @ Lavali= fe.

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Email Australia. Be part of history. Take part in Australia's= first e-mail archive with = --_8de40de9-172a-4a49-b15a-714e6f9cf5c3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 13:26:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80F2A3BF85; Thu, 1 May 2008 13:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GLitzt0RmD9wOc/RjpAd6cciYvm4N7K5XnfH8AvTGbQ=; b=lHmCeAv1bRee1ihGUz4P4pioYYiPyxEnqsPItFgZvefbTyyKcG60ni2YZNoLpbeW6iuEgTREDavas6qzu3PkW/h1RT7ULdJl6axiB9cWOzY+nGhz0IHkdEhbFBYklPOThEAIrBmA+HrfzBeRBP/7lEViY1vAm2zd+41E+GlLDZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=MrPrPbE0OTabAkOlY5ubaFd5IBflhYdrMbfgMbGjBscIs0ukk93+TE0qmlNWd7ptMKnrAtGxUk8ip6CgQ1UQIcfRo+K4czl8sSDspCWcz5wVeXDhIbuNgIyUDhB0pokmj0O+JajZbzYICGBIdCJV7pBk/OtqoGV+seXCNQUk94s= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:26:47 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) In-Reply-To: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Sounds like a ring modulator through a pitch pedal. Or he's doing some serious whammy bar dives. Tony On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 2:01 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > whats that effect at the begining Belew is doing? > > > > And, it's on youtube of course. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo* > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 13:35:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8391E3BF85; Thu, 1 May 2008 13:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:35:28 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:35:35 +0000 (UTC) At 11:01 PM -0700 4/30/08, L.A. Angulo wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo* > >whats that effect at the begining Belew is doing? Sounds to me like the good 'ole Electro Harmonix Frequency Analyzer, but you could probably get that same effect out of almost any decent Ring Modulator/Amplification Modulator device (cf. Moog MF-102, Studio Electronics' Modmax Ringmod, or the Copilot FX Android and Antenna). --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 13:48:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEBA03BF83; Thu, 1 May 2008 13:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_72c57044-09c1-4c44-8456-037eb093f502_" X-Originating-IP: [83.100.255.26] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: MIDI tap shoes Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:48:12 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2008 13:48:12.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF8D7F50:01C8AB91] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 13:48:13 +0000 (UTC) --_72c57044-09c1-4c44-8456-037eb093f502_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thats awsome, care to share your bands name so we can get the score cards o= ut ;) =20 course if u have looping too thats an extra 20% over TATW right off the bat =20 Phill From: im_to_up_myself@hotmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSub= ject: RE: MIDI tap shoesDate: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:56:52 +1000 yeah i've herd tilly and the wall. my bands catchphrase is "we're better th= an tilly and the wall" hahahaha im currently involved in TAP DOGS so we wil= l be featuring the tap fairly heavily From: phillwilson@hotmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSubject= : RE: MIDI tap shoesDate: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:03:45 +0000 have you heard the wonderful works of Tilly and the Wall ?tap backing ahoy!= Phill From: im_to_up_myself@hotmail.comTo: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSub= ject: MIDI tap shoesDate: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:37:18 +1000 Hi, Im a professional tap dancer and i would really love to give these sho= es a go. Im also in a band and we are really interested in incorporating ta= p into the rhythm section. if you could send me the instructions on how to= wire them that would be so fucking awsome thanks........later=20 Click here Search for local singles online @ Lavalife.=20 Invite your Facebook friends to Messenger! Get Started!=20 Email Australia. Be part of history. Take part in Australia's first e-mail = archive with=20 _________________________________________________________________ Win Indiana Jones prizes with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/= --_72c57044-09c1-4c44-8456-037eb093f502_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thats awsome, care to share your bands name so we can get the score cards o= ut ;)
 
course if u have looping too thats an extra 20% over TATW right off the bat=
 
Phill


From: im_to_up_myself@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Subject: RE: MIDI tap shoes
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:56:52 +1000
yeah i've herd tilly and the wall. my bands catchphrase is "we're better th= an tilly and the wall" hahahaha
 
im currently involved in TAP D= OGS so we will be featuring the tap fairly heavily


From: phillwilson@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.comSubject: RE: MIDI tap shoes
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:03:45 +0000
have you heard the wonderful works of Tilly and the Wall ?
tap backing a= hoy!
Phill


From: im_to_up_myself@hotmail.com
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.co= m
Subject: MIDI tap shoes
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:37:18 +1000
 
Hi,
 
Im a professional tap dancer and i would really = love to give these shoes a go. Im also in a band and we are really interest= ed in incorporating tap into the rhythm section.
 
if you = could send me the instructions on how to wire them that would be so fucking= awsome
 
thanks........later 

Click here Search for local singles online @ Lavali= fe.

Invite your Facebook friends to Messenger! Get Started! <= /BLOCKQUOTE>
Email Australia. Be part of history. Take part in Australia's first e-mail archive= with

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Get Started! = --_72c57044-09c1-4c44-8456-037eb093f502_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 14:15:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A310B3BF85; Thu, 1 May 2008 14:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:15:20 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120e5d268173ee39923f3c923a617e65103cfefb050a69a1c42350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.58 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:15:44 +0000 (UTC) The link is broken... can someone repost it? > > > >> > And, it's on youtube of course. >> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo* >> >> >> >> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> >> >> -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 14:19:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BAF33BF80; Thu, 1 May 2008 14:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ch3LhGQpORu3JJ/lzcAEmhSHHoCrjrA4Rr0GIXLheJc=; b=iJv4c40fF6APgDUnpFJox+u6mRtZHbpXqkS6v0Q+lz/IGIqYMozIcdhcZgxV5R/XjCvvTtCYlObFLt1orGDsvFsWl6yO43yMWrSzKZqeY56WMlwZ/FJg/gHYiJ3VdgCB89Pt4F0FbWQmpo2CG3joh/SPmH5qtlSxCIijfmoZSqQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VEDOvGkoQvU3pK/DRWN6PktlYEnoCqGocMwFkXouFRev4l8Mk3znUt9FtNuNGscoxZDhdgaXSspGSXUB+NUy10+JEgkB3pnavn2DZbLha90BZvguMjldTVLdCQfZQF6La4nwPxz+mYg4j7YKalZSJ9pWQ9NNM4p73ExW9O9NKZk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:19:25 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:19:27 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo somehow it got a * stuck on the end. Tony On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > The link is broken... can someone repost it? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And, it's on youtube of course. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 14:21:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B2263BF80; Thu, 1 May 2008 14:21:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 5635666/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.202.117 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.202.117 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiIBADNuGUhPSsp1/2dsb2JhbAAIpwuFT4I+ Message-ID: <4819D1F9.8030700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 15:21:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) References: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:21:31 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo Charles Zwicky wrote: > The link is broken... can someone repost it? >> >> > >>> > And, it's on youtube of course. >>> > >> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo* >>> >>> >>> >>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >>> >>> >>> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 14:34:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C892B3BF85; Thu, 1 May 2008 14:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4819D1F9.8030700@tiscali.co.uk> References: <94052.85856.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4819D1F9.8030700@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:33:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: BOWIE guitarists (looping) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120e5d268173ee399234e0565233105b4799627266682930196350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.58 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 14:34:13 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the link.. It's most certainly a ring modulator with a pedal controllng the carrier frequency. My guess is that it is an Electro-Harmonix "Frequency analyzer" controlled by an Electro-Harmonix "Hot Foot" http://www.tonefrenzy.com/store/Electro_Harmonix_HOT_FOOT.html >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo > > > >Charles Zwicky wrote: >>The link is broken... can someone repost it? >>> >>> > >>>> > And, it's on youtube of course. >>>> > >>> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMI9y1QRMQo* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> www.myspace.com/luisangulocom -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 15:26:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE4523BF80; Thu, 1 May 2008 15:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_11a39179-1f45-48f5-81e9-4c4ce5cf20eb_" X-Originating-IP: [4.246.78.204] From: samba - To: Subject: OT Bob Brozman,drums Turks Truk trance Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 08:26:16 -0700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20080501100348.6914E3BF81@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20080501100348.6914E3BF81@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2008 15:26:16.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2AE5B60:01C8AB9F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:26:17 +0000 (UTC) --_11a39179-1f45-48f5-81e9-4c4ce5cf20eb_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For some reason my previous post didn't show up. I consider European milit= ary marches to be a form of trance drumming, that most definately creates e= ntrainment. These bands,esp the drums and cymbals were copied from the Turk= ish Jannisery bands. The Turks were of course,colonizers. The parts of Eur= poe that were once under their rule,have much more rhytmically complex musi= c than the other parts.=20 Working with the formula 'Low notes entrance,high notes excite' ,the bass= drums create one effect,which is connected to the feet going down,and the= busier high snare drums are pulling the knees up. left right exactly sync= ed. They used to use that stuff to psych people for fighting.Years ago I p= layed a gig with an African dance troupe as part of the Festival of the Pac= ific,which happens every year.Also on the bill was a group from Truk Island= . The island was occupied by US military in WWII ( after taking it from the= Japanese) They did one dance that was an imitation of soldiers marching,50= years later the frozen hips, rigidness, locked chin ,seriousness etc still= totally cracked them up. Esp the Frozen Hips posture.Showed me alot about = cultural differences.I don't think anyone on the planet besides Caucasion W= . European,and N Americans have that frozen hip thing?=20 The was a world wide Military music fad inthe late 19th century,a Gazebo o= r bandstand in every town square ,throughout all the colonies.=20 When African Americans in New Orleans got their hands on military instrume= nts,they took those square, military marches,and started adding the offbeat= s -the ands and ifs that move the hips. When they took all the drums and = cymbals,and put 'em together into a contraption one person could play,we go= t the trapset,jazz blues rock and roll RnB Funk soul etc. Similar process i= n brazil gave us Samba ,Maracatu,Bossa Nova Pagode. In W. Africa ,High Lif= e which led to all sorts of later styles. There are Horn bands all over the= world. In Triniad the oil drums from the US Navy base became orchestral instrument= s =20 Northern shamanic continuum trance drumming styles are often intended to = put the Player in a trance-and if it's truly Shamanic-for that person to go= to the other workd ,and bring something back for healing.A lot of new ager= s think that just going into a trance state is shamanic,but this intent of = navigating in the other world to bring something back is what it means in t= he Turkic languages where the word originates. The term entered the west t= hrough the work of Mircea ELiade with Yakut /Samoy shamans of E Siberia. In= terestingly the roots of the word Bongo ( ngoma is drum in Bantu languages)= ,and Fungus ,are the same-both are used to induce altered states. The fami= liar Native American powwow big drum with several players on the same heav= y down beat is for social dances,which also involves entrainment. Both thi= s and the shamanic styles involve all low notes ,no sharp high accents. The= deep trance stuff which also use drums, take place in Sweat Lodges,Vision = Q,uest Peyote Ceremoniess and Sundance ,the latter involves extremely alter= ed states inducing endorphin highs by intense pain-they put skewers through= their skin,with which they drag heavy weights,and suspend themselves. For = days African Diaspora drumming styles are mostly used to induce trance in the= dancers,and not the drummers. In some traditions the drummers take specif= ic precautions to avoid trancing out. These styles combine low and high no= tes in ways that create complex psycho-acoustic effects,one of which is to = knock peoples spirits out of their bodies so others spirits-ancestors ,oris= has loas,can come in. They dpon't go to the other world for spirit connecti= on,they invite the spirits to come into this ine,in their bodies. Essential= ly they dance with their Gods This effect seems to come from that combinati= on of low notes entrancing ,and high notes exciting. The combination of ele= ments working in differnet directions is also characteristic of African sty= les CK Ladzepko says the tension between 3s and 4s in the same piece teache= s people how to work with tension ,resistance,and adversity. I've seen a dr= ummer watching a dancer carefully then suddenly hit a high sharp phrase,and= the Dancer goes - out,eyes roll back,body language changes drastically.=20 So far I haven't really found examples of music traditions that don't s= how influneces from contacts w. 'other cultures'. The influences go in all = directions-not both directions,it's never that simple. _________________________________________________________________ Spell a grand slam in this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in= the game. http://club.live.com/word_slugger.aspx?icid=3Dword_slugger_wlhm_admod_april= 08= --_11a39179-1f45-48f5-81e9-4c4ce5cf20eb_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  For some reason my previous post didn't show up. I consider European = military marches to be a form of trance drumming, that most definately crea= tes entrainment. These bands,esp the drums and cymbals were copied from the= Turkish Jannisery bands. The Turks were  of course,colonizers. The pa= rts of Eurpoe that were once under their rule,have much more rhytmically co= mplex music than the other parts.
  Working with the formula 'Low = notes entrance,high notes excite' ,the bass drums  create one effect,w= hich is connected to the feet going down,and the busier high snare drums ar= e pulling the knees up.  left right exactly synced. They used to use&n= bsp; that stuff to psych people for fighting.Years ago I played a gig with = an African dance troupe as part of the Festival of the Pacific,which happen= s every year.Also on the bill was a group from Truk Island. The island was = occupied by US military in WWII ( after taking it from the Japanese) They d= id one dance that was an imitation of soldiers marching,50 years later the = frozen hips, rigidness, locked chin ,seriousness etc still totally cracked = them up. Esp the Frozen Hips posture.Showed me alot about cultural differen= ces.I don't think anyone on the planet besides Caucasion W. European,and N = Americans  have that frozen hip thing?
 The was a world wide = Military music fad inthe late 19th century,a Gazebo or bandstand in every t= own square ,throughout all the colonies.
When African Americans  i= n New Orleans got their hands on military instruments,they took those squar= e, military marches,and started adding the offbeats -the  ands and ifs= that move the hips.  When they took all the drums and cymbals,and put= 'em together into a contraption one person could play,we got the trapset,j= azz blues rock and roll RnB Funk soul etc. Similar process in brazil gave u= s Samba ,Maracatu,Bossa Nova Pagode.  In W. Africa ,High Life which le= d to all sorts of later styles. There are Horn bands all over the world.In Triniad the oil drums from the US Navy base became orchestral instrumen= ts
 
  Northern shamanic continuum trance drumming styles a= re often intended to put the Player in a trance-and if it's truly Shamanic-= for that person to go to the other workd ,and bring something back for heal= ing.A lot of new agers think that just going into a trance state is shamani= c,but this intent of navigating in the other world to bring something back = is what it means in the Turkic languages where the word originates.  T= he term entered the west through the work of Mircea ELiade with Yakut /Samo= y shamans of E Siberia. Interestingly the roots of the word Bongo ( ngoma i= s drum in Bantu languages) ,and Fungus ,are the same-both are used to induc= e altered states. The familiar Native American  powwow big drum with s= everal players on the same heavy down beat is for social dances,which also = involves entrainment.  Both this and the shamanic styles involve all l= ow notes ,no sharp high accents. The deep trance stuff which also use drums= , take place in Sweat Lodges,Vision Q,uest Peyote Ceremoniess and Sundance = ,the latter involves extremely altered states inducing endorphin highs by i= ntense pain-they put skewers through their skin,with which they drag heavy = weights,and suspend themselves. For days
   African Diaspora d= rumming styles are mostly used to induce trance in the dancers,and not the = drummers. In some traditions  the drummers take specific precautions t= o avoid trancing out.  These styles combine low and high notes in ways= that create complex psycho-acoustic effects,one of which is to knock peopl= es spirits out of their bodies so others spirits-ancestors ,orishas loas,ca= n come in. They dpon't go to the other world for spirit connection,they inv= ite the spirits to come into this ine,in their bodies. Essentially they dan= ce with their Gods This effect seems to come from that combination of low n= otes entrancing ,and high notes exciting. The combination of elements worki= ng in differnet directions is also characteristic of African styles CK Ladz= epko says the tension between 3s and 4s in the same piece teaches people ho= w to work with tension ,resistance,and adversity. I've seen a drummer watch= ing a dancer carefully then suddenly hit a high sharp phrase,and the Dancer= goes - out,eyes roll back,body language changes drastically.
 &nb= sp; So far I haven't really found  examples of music traditions that d= on't show influneces from contacts w. 'other cultures'. The influences go i= n all directions-not both directions,it's never that simple.













Spell a grand slam in = this game where word skill meets World Series. Get in the game. = --_11a39179-1f45-48f5-81e9-4c4ce5cf20eb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 15:34:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A01013BF8B; Thu, 1 May 2008 15:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=pTfNmvDvkEeZ8IQ3dy2rombacppkNopajl+GbzIs5A4=; b=WAdVrgpICorwMqCJfhY+RdkgoMW29KjZyKu2/6ujrDyjNrOt5vw3Oop9PSuSM7/EDRKx12bvV5nT/5vkMOCdDBDqyg4Twd+uMvQf+zp0vNGVqTReh/o0O3KESfnZLfzNaA8HY++wl1CoOLKceHdcRR++4HCO4ysiFTj/su9kDyc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=MsK0h7fXB/VgDKVj+AMLUySuFEbVenwe9EGOoJ14972LhB61Wnr+/KLD2vM3c8IEK3ddePSryiXuSSSITnv0MGgxEd8yfaVoIglGdLPz7jV8uLHEYyH1WuZ3GoXw4NEX4Gu6tPQkuGQftKd7Ag84mwo7n04/wBD3dBtoPxHf5wU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 11:34:23 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Massive Topic Drift - Delete as Needed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:34:25 +0000 (UTC) Rick, No disrespect taken ... it's a HUGE subject and we are all but proverbial blind men describing the proverbial elephant. So I dive in ... On 5/1/08, Rick Walker wrote: > thanks for your insight, Dennis. > I respect your knowledge on this subject but my own experience doesn't > agree entirely with your conclusions (it's okay to agree to disagree, here, I > think and I want to let you know that I respect your research and personal > experiences) > > The only thing I can say is that after having done a tradtional Peyote > sweat lodge ritual with completely non-syncopated rhythms > and having watched a Haitian Vodun ceremony where people were > 'possessed' by the Orishas after the famous 'crack in the universe' > polyrhythmic breaks were played that disrupted the trance inducing > polyrhythmic drumming of the three drummers, the quality of > trance was vastly different in form and energy. Actually, this is exactly my point (reread carefully what I said about cultural "set" differences accounting for the vary differences you point out). The research I wsa readign at the time was pretty clear that it wasn't syncopation or lack of syncopation that was instrumental in induction; rather it was the appropriate inclusion of the right audio frequency (just the right touch of those bass notes) and the "speed" with which those sounds were produced (non-synopated works fine you're hitting the drumhead fast/slow enough, or syncopated works so long as that same rhythm is included in the overall picture). And let's not forget that acoustic trance induction can also be enhanced through any number of psycotropic and entheogens, depending (again) on your cultural perspectives on the use of such things. Shoot, you can even do it by suggestion (we call that hypnosis in the West). > I do believe that it's all down to brain rhythms and certain entrainments > as you say, but I think there are lots of different mental states > that can be achieved by different methods which may differ radically from > each other, both in their triggers and in their manifestations. > These all are 'altered states'. Yep. That was what got me looking into it initially. The whole question of what are "altered states". And how does culture structure and determine the content of those altered states, as well as what are the appropriate social responses to them and the participants. Which of these experiences is likely to incur less social opprobium: 1. Getting really drunk in public and watching a sports event 2. Getting really wasted on ('shrooms, blotter, weed, etc) inpublic and watching a sports event Social control of ecstatic states? Sure, you betcha! > I am not, however, an expert, and I'd love to learn more about this > subject. I"m only working from what I know and the intellectual paradigm > that came from the the information theory garnered from studying with > Gregory Bateson and, to a lesser extent, John Grinder. Bateson was looking at this from a more psychological bent and the perspective of how shamanic healing practices might impact on psychotherapy. Don't know how much of that to attribute to his being married to Margaret Mead for all those years ... The whole area of trance and psychotheray were big topics when in the late 60's and 70's (well, like DUH!) and more than a few of us studying anthropology got sucked into studying this and related fields. (I was looking at ethnobotany, religious history, musicology, psychotherapy ... all from the point of view of an anthro student who was a musician who grew up in an almost-Fundamentalist household with more than a little exposure to glossalalia and , er, uhm, could address altered states from first person observer perspective.) One of the early observations was that some epileptics were subject to seizures when exposed to certain frequencies and rhythm combinations. This led to more research into the effcts of acoustic on brain states (which, of course, led to the researching trance induction in non-epileptics). > It's rather difficult to strap electrodes onto trance participants > (unless someone has perveresely accomplished this without my knowledge---> do you know more about this, Dennis?) > so it would be difficult to really solve this dialectic from a Western > scientific pardagimatic approach > but I would be flabbergasted if the brain is doing the same to both sets of > trancees in this case. Not as hard as you'd think, dependingon your definiton of trance. Most of THAT work has been done in the areas of sleep studies (dream states, esp.)and meditation. The subjects in those studies are a little more malleable, vis-a-vis attaching electrodes, and it has yielded a fair bit of literature. Ditto with the research on hypnotic states, which are a bit more analogous to the brain states that we percieve as "trance"-like. I seem to remember some studies in the 70's that used controlled reproduction of audio triggers on subject who WERE hooked up, in order to develop some of the baseline measurements as to what could be used to trigger things. And I recall that there were also some alpha wave behaviors, not just the theta wave ones, that were an important part of the behavior. > What else can you add to this, Dennis? I"m curious to know more about the > depth of your knowledge. It's been over 30 years since I looked deeply at the literature and I'm not certain where my own notes are now. One thing that struck me at the end of the roughly 4 years of researching this was that the cultural value of the altered state experience varied wildly across the world; that the brain was doing pretty much the same things, but we interpeted it in radically different manners. And THAT was something that was pretty much expected, given the history of religious experience, cross-culturally. I don't talk it about it much because it is difficult for many folks to talk rationally about religious experience as being an irrational, but natural phenomena. There has been a sudden outburst of research into the physiological (brain) basis of religious experience and its' development into "religion", so I do have hope that these things will become easier to discuss outside of academic circles. > respectfully Rick > > PS only one thing really bothers me about your post, I have to admit, > though: > why on earth did you stop drumming? > It seems to be one of the very quickest way to get people to entrain that I > know of. Uh, yeah. Actually that's pretty much the root of it right there. I'm ethically opposed to any form of entrainment without informed consent. Does it happen? All the time. But I make no claims to being responsible for it and I don't go out of my way to talk it about it (except inthe context of my own personal experiences, when asked). And actually, you can creat a self-hypnotic suggestion that will the trick even more quickly. And then there is the whole field of Neuro-linguistic Programming ... can you say "Speed Seduction"? sure you can ... > Last night I played with the Akron Family (and the DoDos) at an amazing gig > where > we just played the simplest rhythms in the world and the capacity crowd > went ape shit crazy. > There was definitely trance action happening. I was aware of it in my > self..........in the musicians > on the stage and definitely in the crazed dancing crowd by looking in their > ectstatic faces. Living in times when the propaganda machiens have been running non-stop for years, I am constantly reminded that "Fame is but the breath of the masses, and that oft unwholesome." There is tremendous power over others in the sounds we create and share. Consider the marching band at a high-school or college football game. Or, better still, a military marching band (ever wonder why they call it a "fight song"?). One of the problems with inducing altered states is in their control; ours is not a culture (in the West) that understands, appreciates, or encourages the arbitrary seeking out of visions by individuals. We have several thousand years of developing social control mechanisms to deal with truth-seekers, etc., and most of them have been negative (unfortunately). There are as many different altered states and visions as there are human beings ... but which one is "True"? Dennis "what was that middle part?" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 15:40:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C37F3BF8B; Thu, 1 May 2008 15:40:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 27890268 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: belew boxes (was BOWIE guitarists (looping)) Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:40:26 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72084368DB@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: belew boxes (was BOWIE guitarists (looping)) Thread-Index: Aciroa1jkppxPJwKS0C1qaMLnNUf5g== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2008 15:40:27.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADBA2100:01C8ABA1] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <09ieo.A.-x.tReGIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 15:40:29 +0000 (UTC) =20 >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwMI9y1QRMQo<< I was there that night. walked out after 40 minutes, couldn't stand the noise they were making or the queue for the bar. dreadful show.=20 I'm sure the band were great, but it was a dreadful show. "construKCtion of light" tour, wasn't it? the noise could be achieved using a digitech whammy & one of those godawful mxr blue box things, I think. (cue blue box/j mascis story) I was working in the mtv live performance studio back in early 1993 when dinosaur jr came in....=20 at this time, everything mascis used was in purple flight-cases. he was using marshall 50W plexis, three of them, & his favourite selection of jags, jazzmasters & a tele I think.=20 some of the effects were in an upright cabinet within locked drawers, but the main body of them were arrayed on a large piece of perspex shaped like an artist's paint-pallette & which had it's own enormous-but-slim purple flight case. during the tech-check, his guitar tech tried the blue box & made a face. I fetched him a new battery for it, but it sounded exactly the same. we left it how it was, thinking maybe mascis had had the thing modded. during the set, mascis engaged the pedal for about half a bar, made the same face as the tech & switched it off again. much much later, I bought one after seeing john (pj harvey) parrish use one on a bass- it seemed to fuzz the bass up quite musically.=20 I think I used it for about half a bar..... :-) duncan. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 16:26:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3435D3BF73; Thu, 1 May 2008 16:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 01 May 2008 16:26:00 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ev4M7oWSQhnzCzj/yG5pbLu3InIV+apW6B3x6D5om3ch7I5PYCFnxbRFDatlnvKMWLdKqR0F92+/e1qz8vuIThqoMbQ8MPWWOlpl90l9UU7kzltJ3PVOqBlCQEk5CWZk/K8PpUFv9ABd+S29DWed0QU8Tdb46S78KYtQH1Hu9AQ=; X-YMail-OSG: .i2c.1IVM1nxmEbR4KSoFmYsAT2_I1DE4Noo6oDI.fd6GLUUAW3xqbI_t4XLM2.BG7VpRr0PVsItaPYMQvBp3oe4Guzb88NNY5jchiPdf_EZ9cOkdHWbPgyQFic- Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 09:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: jan gyn Subject: RE: Musician Jokes To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <380-2200854195857881@M2W038.mail2web.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <444438.11405.qm@web54405.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6rxlwD.A.SyB.Z8eGIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:26:01 +0000 (UTC) What do loopers use as birth control? Their personalities. :) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 16:30:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64D643BF0D; Thu, 1 May 2008 16:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 607 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 01 May 2008 16:30:05 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:Message-ID:Reply-To:X-Priority:Sensitivity:Importance:To:Subject:From:Date:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=pHNsPe4S0Gv3NF4sdFlOLBa34NfGcXGEV6HghQLo8LsyTX6/eqvDkZegT94yoGX09gkK43h0WVLPeaRf8Dp/0Nxli7Erv9AL+hfFwNM8ZtVpQt3Ur2g1q6ngU2kVzGWH87uZ9A+fncc0nTYN9veuJYfJGv6dv7z00+yIPa1Ptu8= ; X-YMail-OSG: XLwPPKIVM1kyd62nune_FjlH5pbT7gP.1i.yZp0Se9X3ahzRj5LLoEXLX_MkDqIAxgv36W2GTzJRvf._4a8K3Amv1mGnedwQCUnlg0MigTvq9V3wTSKNuU26iCoJNz8cUbB536s7PxXKMrHU6BZxt2f8 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id:1093274820 Message-ID:<1093274820-1209658694-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854082668-@bxe122.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Reply-To: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electric Kalimba gig spam From: kalimbaman7@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:17:39 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, I've been a member of L.D. for approx 8 months with this being my 1st post. I find it to be highly informative and fascinating as to what's going on in the Looping community worldwide!! ** My instrument of choice is Electric Kalimba/w effects and Live Looping. I will be performing tomm. May 2nd, 7pm (eastern time) with several other National acts at the City Skies Electronic Music Festival which will be Broadcast Live at StillStream.com. Please tune in. Don't miss it !! Kevin "KalimbaMan" Spears. Myspace.com/KevinSpears Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 16:58:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6D503BF70; Thu, 1 May 2008 16:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: "looper's delight list" In-Reply-To: <1093274820-1209658694-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854082668-@bxe122.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (4A102) Subject: New sounds posted Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 4A102) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:57:47 -0400 References: <1093274820-1209658694-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1854082668-@bxe122.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 16:58:47 +0000 (UTC) New live gigs posted on myspace page Teddy Kumpel Http://myspace.com/mistershifty > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 17:12:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F31643BF72; Thu, 1 May 2008 17:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 01 May 2008 17:12:46 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZJjxc0SMAAAA:8 a=KrVvlNOFNYEvwvquWkQA:9 a=KmCYjKmItlnDJe01zYoA:7 a=C08R7NGVGtBhSqgCXaf_baF5uXEA:4 a=ESEIaOzqGKcA:10 In-Reply-To: <8F6247506F234821A85BAC7ABDF8B9B1@WilliamsonPC> References: <8F6247506F234821A85BAC7ABDF8B9B1@WilliamsonPC> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: Bebe Barron Passes Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:07:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Oh, I LOVE that movie!! I was just reading on Wikipedia and didn't know about Barron's story with the AFM. Incredible that the AFM has been up to the same protectionist strategies for over 50 years. I'm a former member and after reading this I despise them even more, which is a lot. ACK! From Wikipedia.... "The soundtrack for Forbidden Planet (1956) is today recognized as the first entirely electronic score for a film. Eerie and sinister, the soundtrack was unlike anything that audiences had heard before. Music historians have often noted how groundbreaking the soundtrack was in the development of electronic music. ...Not everyone was happy with the score. Louis and Bebe did not belong to the Musicians' Union. The original screen credit for the film, which was supposed to read "Electronic Music by Louis and Bebe Barron", was changed at the last moment by a contract lawyer from the American Federation of Musicians. In order to not upset the union, the association with the word music had to be removed. The Barrons were credited with "Electronic Tonalities". Because of their non- membership in the union, the film was not considered for an Oscar in the soundtrack, or special effects category. ...The Musicians Union forced MGM to title the Forbidden Planet score "electronic tonalities", not "music". And seeing the handwriting on the wall, used that excuse to deny them membership in the 1950s; the union's primary concern was losing jobs for performers rather than the medium itself. As a result, the Barrons never scored another film for Hollywood." On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:33 PM, Rick Williamson wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/movies/25barron.html > > "Bebe Barron, who with her husband Louis composed the first > electronic score for a feature film - the eerie gulps and burbles, > echoes and weeeoooos that accentuated invisible monsters and > robotic creatures in the 1956 science-fiction classic "Forbidden > Planet" - died Sunday in Los Angeles. She was 82." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 17:32:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5A273BF6D; Thu, 1 May 2008 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=xarWZzpl0QB6wRw4HuKK0DF81vVukP34LeJR2BzUHOExBmTD9NXnDa4Ou0LGxu+Mg8RH5Q9Hd3oymapdsZ3kytkv3aj3LKYjmjBWLyfT5lN7sm1nawuHo9A6EW7OaZfMq8JBpZBx+n2/SxCae3shl6bGaN2YITBDGfZRcwU3VQQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 4HArjhcVM1k7rZe.R7kM5v4zlAoaAKKqL7qLD3jhEjKSjQ5y8Kd87ucnUqWqRNRFnnalydPIaW4w8IxjKFgd4rQ1DIBtDVcplsiyFrG2w.8B1YFztmDNymW51Q-- Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 10:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: Trance - was Bob Brozeman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080501152618.66FE13BF8D@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <487100.16040.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 17:32:18 +0000 (UTC) From my own experience, I'd say that Rick is onto something here. It's all to easy to want to put the multiplicity of human experience into a neatly packaged little box. For this reason alone, I rarely feel drawn to enter into LD philosophical discussions. Even if the brain waves produced under radically differing trance situations were similar, who among us has the faintest clue as to what that actually means? Dogmatic thinking is just as odious whether it comes from Bob Brozeman, Rick Walker, myself, or George W... May we all be humbled by that simple expression. Stephen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 19:45:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 242123BF56; Thu, 1 May 2008 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080501144546.8m9ycsdhzscsk04c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 14:45:46 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Aetherphon , LoopersDelight Subject: New Product preview at the Ethermusic festival MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Hello to all! I just returned from the Ethermusic Festival, sponsered by Moog Music, =20 in Asheville, NC. Prior to my set on Thursday night, Jason Danillo from Moog Music =20 expertly demo'd a new product from Moog Music that is simply called: =20 "The Moog Guitar". I am not a guitarist myself however I was very impressed with what I =20 learned and heard about this product. I run the risk of sounding like =20 a "salesperson" however I want to share with you what I learned and =20 heard regarding the Moog Guitar. My first impression of this instrument is that it was an electric =20 guitar with built in (software driven) fx in the body of the guitar. =20 And I would add, super CLEAN fx. And the infinite sustain, for =20 example, was INFINITE with no noise, glitches, etc. However, my guess =20 about the theory of operation was mistaken. The guitar utilizes built-in ebows -- I'm not sure how many are built =20 into the guitar however there is a least one per string. As many =20 readers here know, the ebow imparts energy to a string to set it into =20 vibration and keep it vibrating forever. The engineers at Moog took =20 things to another level -- for ebow technology can do the opposite: it =20 can be used to remove energy from a string, too. Each string is independently settable -- some can sustain, others can =20 sound in the normal (unsustained manner), others can produce a =20 staccatto pluck -- in fact, on of the sounds is a strum followed by a =20 bow. This is all user-settable. Jason strummed a chord and as the =20 chord died down a "bowed string chorus" came up -- as if an entire =20 string section was doubling Jason's guitar part. My first thought was: Ohhh... my looping friends would LOVE this. And =20 the tone was really clean. During Jason's demo, he mentioned that =20 some people can't believe that this is all being done on the strings =20 until he unplugs the guitar and folks listen to the strings themselves. I look forward to hearing the "buzz" about this product among the =20 looping community as well as the theremin community (which includes =20 many guitarists and loopers). While ebows have been around for awhile, this new product takes things =20 to another level. Best wishes to Moog Music. May the new Moog Guitar inspire many =20 musicians and be another success story for Moog Music. All the best to one and all. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 19:56:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F73E3BF00; Thu, 1 May 2008 19:56:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=W6zTg+hJa+SkeZ6Oyk2vM44bt7N9GpdqqD+SZp9Uzro=; b=Gq1keGy88iqi6QmZxUCK8YepBNdO77qbuxEtzi2RP71gJnPzC/i6SMqilS4/oRKTBEXQgnnK23xqHDvq21kQB2tfUafmPOuY0cvAODqtwO/em7OWtEVAf8FxhMIhqy4H2wB/zylBHoF56WodojJfHQKzR1h+5wAlPRcDlxcggWY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GfqS/rOXUgww9DNWIz9I7NYydwYcfcCePmJU8GkfFqs39Z3Hv1LMi4/A87Eq+WD818OD+sqHyBXlmSc+Xq8FneKNi/PHcdIDTzOAKOwjByVFN5Tb2gMSGtPCJeLrteKUMPQkrL1BzYvxuAAh0lb8i5KfH7cvtggg/sHr6QjF2Wk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 12:56:37 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Product preview at the Ethermusic festival In-Reply-To: <20080501144546.8m9ycsdhzscsk04c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4761_32260106.1209671797307" References: <20080501144546.8m9ycsdhzscsk04c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-IP_J.A.ic.2BiGIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 19:56:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4761_32260106.1209671797307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sounds like someone may have found a way to realize the Gizmotron in a reliable package, with built-in effects. TH On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:45 PM, wrote: > ". > > I am not a guitarist myself however I was very impressed with what I > learned and heard about this product. I run the risk of sounding like a > "salesperson" however I want to share with you what I learned and heard > regarding the Moog Guitar. > ------=_Part_4761_32260106.1209671797307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sounds like someone may have found a way to realize the Gizmotron in a reliable package, with built-in effects.

TH

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 12:45 PM, <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
".

I am not a guitarist myself however I was very impressed with what I learned and heard about this product.  I run the risk of sounding like a "salesperson" however I want to share with you what I learned and heard regarding the Moog Guitar.

------=_Part_4761_32260106.1209671797307-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 20:03:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97A873BF00; Thu, 1 May 2008 20:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080501150305.cpqupakw04w0c088@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 15:03:05 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Product preview at the Ethermusic festival References: <20080501144546.8m9ycsdhzscsk04c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: <23G48D.A.s5.9HiGIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:03:09 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Travis Hartnett : > Sounds like someone may have found a way to realize the Gizmotron in a > reliable package, with built-in effects. > TH > While it sounds like "built in fx", all the sound shaping is done on the strings themselves -- the sound suggests some kind of fx processing however it is all done on the strings. They started from the standpoint of a high-quality guitar. Someone who is familiar with guitars would have to attest to its playability, while I suspect it is very high quality. It does very good "acoustic" sounds as well as electric ones. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 20:23:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D458C3BF61; Thu, 1 May 2008 20:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <481A26C3.3040209@aol.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 22:23:31 +0200 From: chrisrover User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: chrisrover@aol.com Subject: Re: LOOPS ONLINE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 84.185.23.227 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:23:58 +0000 (UTC) Dear friends, Thank you all for visiting www.myspace.com/christianrover becoming new friends and your kind comments. I look forward to listening in detail to all of the beautiful music you have put out there, when I'm done with my current recording sessions. A special note to Warren and Stephen: The opening number at myspace is set to change at random. So you were first hit by my rendition of Coltranes "Giant Steps"... hope the speakers were not on 11 ;-) This version seems to divide listeners into those who love it and those who hate it. An older fan, who knows me as a mainstream organ trio jazz guitarist, even literally demanded that I take it off my site... maybe eventually I'll bow to public pressure... for now I think of it as a contribution to "shred" and musical humor. To answer the octaver question: I assume you're referring to the live version of "Love my tender hide". I'm using a custom built guitar with low E and A string (tuned an octave lower than legally allowed). I wish I knew an octave-shifter that could give me that sound. I would have two more strings to solo with ;-) Greetings Christian Rover chrisrover@aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 20:29:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FB013BF00; Thu, 1 May 2008 20:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=DDpBYVfUqtlilzy052W1nTEO8dJbRSMshvVH9EuGsB4=; b=gADw/MAHmfsuVnFNVMhNAkwzwbSLK89JWb9xup85L5HfMWaXW3oKAE5rmiNxZtW8UEEjlTolMI1rlR6f76DsRKnpMA8ee3E9adPJAk8j0QoZarJdKJfp0yGw9wVY3gxbhHT35hWi1HQs7BrJEKomMp1nTHuF5GzRlr814WHPGfs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gTa12KBjLQ/N5awQdcz7c4QxI4GdMhcw2OL0s0ZDyCIhwKT/lwhSjO3/WQd17Q6DePw6jsALTn6NBUIQB4uNCT6LQ2xwKAfzrlc+32QtFHxoCdbdsb+4LMMD76YWt9/x8CD+j2an5pql2LbcOvM/xYohbWJntFaWBUs4D0gjlTg= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0805011329h6f903fd1jbf8cba35dace03e9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:29:57 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Product preview at the Ethermusic festival In-Reply-To: <20080501144546.8m9ycsdhzscsk04c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080501144546.8m9ycsdhzscsk04c@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:29:59 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:45 PM, wrote: > > I look forward to hearing the "buzz" about this product among the looping > community as well as the theremin community (which includes many guitarists > and loopers). One month ago a video demo of that guitar being played was used as splash for http://moogmusic.com/. I checked back today but it's gone now. It sounded fantastic!!! I've played a little MIDI guitar with each string set to its own MIDI channel and eight good synths, one per sting, but that's nothing compared to hearing the true string and every string individually sustained. In that demo video the guitarist used the same sound patch for all strings; fading down a bit at first but then increasing the sustain to raise the level, producing a sound similar to if you sample the guitar note and play back the first loop in reverse (or like doing Record --> Reverse on an EDP). I think Moog's polyphonic sustain system would be very expressive for a fretless guitar. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 20:40:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9DE3BF62; Thu, 1 May 2008 20:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=H4DW960rBmu0zTT3Dxin6A==:17 a=ZJjxc0SMAAAA:8 a=jOyGg1T56xCgC_ftNvsA:9 a=xkPAEEoOOrIAov9ABqefL72FmVUA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=10sAvMsTeQkA:10 From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bebe Barron Passes Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 20:40:45 +0000 Message-Id: <050120082040.28123.481A2ACD0000446A00006DDB2216548686CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: <4smv7.A.9fC.PriGIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Very sad news, but thanks for passing it on. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Rick Williamson" > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/movies/25barron.html > > "Bebe Barron, who with her husband Louis composed the first electronic score > for a feature film - the eerie gulps and burbles, echoes and weeeoooos that > accentuated invisible monsters and robotic creatures in the 1956 > science-fiction classic "Forbidden Planet" - died Sunday in Los Angeles. She > was 82." > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 22:03:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3D473BF30; Thu, 1 May 2008 22:03:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=jowN23HVjqX/cJZng6C0Hv9JClo0NBTzjeUON/Sp99U=; b=YqW6EA9XZPKZJbsrt2I3oV1x1+/u/56C3X6NcxdnqwLaPK7ByzRbE59KfDC2WDpU5XBXXEhduvu3O240vfOZUsxflQ+RNNYBzad9WBiwHdCj++HFDqPyu5Na586WZyknPdov+FBSCDL81jbQBTV2vc8ITOAztEnqM7tCc25bs5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=Y5oBA7R6zjDzLF8ju14ENqHWMMFetTP2dR5RCuVtzq+dhZd+qGEBK7OGCDttwEvVdXuKMxES8vZomi6Z3mBlztQeoO/Qvuv4a28ZBTso8c74nniEbt+VDXIzBy/mhI0hg0zidadxzRWlOtOJkr/DjPpBnJQvWdLhlqo7U2McZMw= Message-ID: <481A3E28.3020509@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:03:20 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: amplifying a national steel dobro guitar References: <721976.14572.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <721976.14572.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Dainel Dingeldein Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:03:49 +0000 (UTC) L.A. Angulo wrote: > talking about Brozman,he seems to just mic his > national guitar,but are there pickups outhere > specially designed for this guitars?ive tried a few of > them but the ones that come with humbuckers take away > the character of their sound. > cheers > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > > I use Mcintyre pickups for my Dobro, National steel, Mandolin and Banjo. http://www.mcintyrepickups.com/ You will need a preamp if you are going to play out since the pickups are not active. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 22:13:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DB0B3BF30; Thu, 1 May 2008 22:13:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=A5kYFNyQDfPOKE1F3P73oQOB8m+PnqUug+iCVfwTDOY=; b=IOwTND9tuKhzj6l9KjcN0o5QWb13gVOR+mCZxvrtTRz0fT837w1pTnayj4ynel6RGhZZrCLqJXYWkAyXWeAUjGSwRcCn3n4+ghtXIvuHvrIgIFPXWORdNccW5pg7Odjut0TD3mzXWH9k8rX/JGvnXPOhQbFttg2ec1GK0gkmhiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ZMOG3Zni7xr9tGsDqoEgAHdctNcnsjxABa0awXuHrwBDDXNcDTTuiU3PxG1fNef5v6tHYQ/sEuDTGYg9ZpOJyHCvr62x+dbjai6bvvDIxpwArvEe5XvWiQfKgNH8RuSj47JjLUBOeHgScx6L/ozTN65aSKbkcZBHQ++7YWn9wF0= Message-ID: <7b6c0ce70805011513t455f40a5g624f7f4fdd5ab85@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:13:21 -0400 From: "Steve Sandberg" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: feedback problem on edp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3593_22808391.1209680002003" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:13:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3593_22808391.1209680002003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline All of a sudden, my trusty edp refuses to respond to the feedback control - i have maximum feedback always - anyone ever have a similar problem? Any ideas for how to fix it? thanks - ------=_Part_3593_22808391.1209680002003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline All of a sudden, my trusty edp refuses to respond to the feedback control - i have maximum feedback always -
anyone ever have a similar problem?  Any ideas for how to fix it? thanks -
------=_Part_3593_22808391.1209680002003-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 22:14:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 690193BF30; Thu, 1 May 2008 22:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 02 May 2008 00:14:57 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20080501221457.209030@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Guitar Loopers: Your life is soo much easier! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18WK4gf9EIWFzw61x695huVF09xhvTXRgQPOxJcsn NaYl7Bn1K3J+78iYGarbbuvDBZ7iwxI0ZVjA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: 2XcpfOUjf2IsO/5yl21o5+t4dWxlc1Z8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks I recently bought myself an E-Guitar and - for the first time ever - hooked up a guitar with my RC-50 looper and Zoom G2.1u I must say: Life is soo much easier when you use a guitar !!! Looping is so simple: No bleeding on the loops, tons of possibilies how to play... Even the effect pedal is already optimized for guitar: just pick whatever you want to sound like: Green Day, Santana, Beatles... All at your finger tips. Building loops is so easy due to the diversity of a guitar: you can strike chords, play single notes, tap, scratch, percussive strums, finger pick. You can play open strings, flageolet, the whole neck on a range of 4 octaves... Talking about octaves: octave pedal gives you a nice bass line, just "out of the box" It's soo much more work to tweak the fx and train vocal skills to get a decent vocal bass line... ... to overdub harmonies with vocals or other instruments... ... switch patches on your keyboard so you can distiguish the sounds on the looper ... try avoiding bleeding on percussion looops... Maybe this all sounds a bit naive to you guys. I've pretty much focused on looping with a MIC so far. And I just figured how easy looping can be - when you use a guitar. So I'll take the risk of loosing some originality if I can make life so much easier looping with a guitar - what the heck. I know some of you will object to certain details (i.e. "it takes more to sound like Santana..." etc) and I know there are enough loopers out there facing many technical & practical challenges. Just wanted share my first-time impressions with guitar looping. I'm stunned. Buzap -- GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du Leute mit Deinen Interessen! Jetzt dabei sein: http://www.shortview.de/?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 22:23:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC4DF3BE7E; Thu, 1 May 2008 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080501172353.q7iakihbgkgs0woc@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:23:53 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar Loopers: Your life is soo much easier! References: <20080501221457.209030@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20080501221457.209030@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:23:56 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Buzap Buzap : > > > So I'll take the risk of loosing some originality if I can make life > so much easier looping with a guitar - what the heck. > Great post. I actually started out when learning my way around the RC-50 with a microphone -- though I don't use a mic in actual performance. With the mic, I would count out beats and measures by number -- then I could figure out what-loop-was-doing-what, etc. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 1 22:29:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21813BE86; Thu, 1 May 2008 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=vDLwYi9iI8/RKwgOQs3T+ax4+6Ik51pS7a5Sl6ptlDQ=; b=bkEaLN6hcA1Dz3dJSgHG+JWpUSxr4B0Y1iQSCHSjuaPpzE5nbjJMvPs/4F6C7HgI3NJzdbrOIwPdmT5jpHRKu6Ka08WZQp6G8Zr/Kn0iSwkkqc+PC2hR0kboQ8Cl+IMaJ2ws6ctqFKi7L75MLNLVUffMCtNyaKLQkulaEmd/gko= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W07KW6N2ffkhoqZCvfpiXziiq0trKu7lg8P9bLgTYRhW+j58ikoOr1YSIkOB//cD9FtYmAy9AsTDebLrpxxSuOx3Pxf8oO6oWZhgzXs4zV8TtW1Ot8Mdm+WFCgg8EMx4llzS66sUSYDbep5CFOe36r6W7tCHkjN08ul1oPUC0C8= Message-ID: <8c82d1660805011529q402e1998l1c4477b17200d012@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 18:29:08 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: feedback problem on edp In-Reply-To: <7b6c0ce70805011513t455f40a5g624f7f4fdd5ab85@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2223_4042329.1209680948557" References: <7b6c0ce70805011513t455f40a5g624f7f4fdd5ab85@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/80487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2223_4042329.1209680948557 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Maybe your knob broke. If you have an expression pedal, try plugging it in, rocking it up (so feedback is 127) and then unplugging it. If you don't have an expression pedal, then I'm sorry for wasting your time. On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Steve Sandberg wrote: > All of a sudden, my trusty edp refuses to respond to the feedback control > - i have maximum feedback always - > anyone ever have a similar problem? Any ideas for how to fix it? thanks - > > ------=_Part_2223_4042329.1209680948557 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Maybe your knob broke. If you have an expression pedal, try plugging it in, rocking it up (so feed