From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:08:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1C2C3BEE4; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:07:36 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for February 23, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47C8AC58.6080506@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:08:27 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2008/080223.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #124 February 23, 2008. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. Issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Michael Shipway] Arrival Sequences No. 1 VA [Steve Charlton] Intensity Sequences No. 1 VA [Carl Matthews] unknown Sequences No. 1 VA [Dace Thompson] Journey Through the Sequences No. 1 Wastelands Transeive Emor Femus Intrigue (Champagne Lake) The Tangent Project Foregone 2006/2007 Compilation (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Elivia Melodey The Gnomes Embrace Terra Firma (none) Mico Nonet Paper Sailboat The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Mico Nonet The Marmalade The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Balloon Nonet) Mico Nonet Between Two Trees The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Mico Nonet Notturno The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Mico Nonet Uyku The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Port Mahadia I of the Storm Echoes In Time (Giordano) Amaran's Plight Coming of Age Voice in the Light (Progrock) Amaran's Plight Incident at Voice in the Light (Progrock) Haldeman's Lake Amaran's Plight Reflections Part 1 Voice in the Light (Progrock) Ayreon Ride the Comet 01011001 (InsideOut) Ayreon Web of Lies 01011001 (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:24:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46CEC3BEF5; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Nl+2BwG2gencUZRVxkRDzL2LXeboRbyPXizUEpJGDTg=; b=ZbCvcNJxUhTwm0n1loXS60gUcE2kiUfS3wRTQQmgD6vLVwyqFkB4RM4OFZ4Sy0JHQIJS15CL6MQHKNt4H4ElUHZGMH8q7gRViWT0oCxhi78UgDDxz4P0AYm7EQiP/9HDR2d1R1Al2qkqO06lvI0zwLjGM14MdtbOC3Om1ao36Fw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Sbw41AdTwWZZzOKNadYA5qK3PL0NSk+I0GndhJI52QiGd2g2eJq0py5WmWFZZf+cCDBCGGo5FjpFfJwybQFyZfbLDSB7tuVSoYTHKfq68UTP+Ndmuk1CUbuZkxl659LdLKfcuB/mBzqn4VxhZICC+y67fXjCUAfSt/5dYIiEe4Q= Message-ID: <26ba8d120802291724w15fc51fmaf8b0d6083204049@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:24:41 -0500 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) In-Reply-To: <44D05C6A-83AA-464B-927E-2CEDD2272A7B@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26ba8d120802251440n7c7cbb48yc174d9127d6288cd@mail.gmail.com> <83D9E5D1-2E61-44A8-B61C-FED3CF886ED4@mac.com> <26ba8d120802260024k50923fffg11f1fb9fa0f5b92e@mail.gmail.com> <47C3D0F4.9040007@tiscali.co.uk> <26ba8d120802261101x60cccaf3kf58e1c635366068e@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120802281658j21872f7cw9993fee328522454@mail.gmail.com> <44D05C6A-83AA-464B-927E-2CEDD2272A7B@mac.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: bfec02638adafeaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Well, of course. I'm not intending to host the videos myself! But we need a central page to point people to with the text explanation. HOWEVER, if sound priority mode really works, I'm a lot less likely to want to do the work. I still haven't had a chance to check it out yet... On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Why not just use YouTube? Perspective buyers are always searching for > gear on there. > > > On Feb 28, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > > > I think the website will be really easy to pull off. I just need to > > get a time in front of the camera, or someone else needs to deliver a > > movie, for the ball to be rolling. > > > > Making the website itself, registering, hosting, that's like an hour > > of my time. > > > > I have a theory that once we get a few movies, other people will chime > > in. Or at least, we'll have a few moves. > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Teddy Kumpel > > wrote: > >> I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this > >> point, is > >> really annoying because of the glitches, midi sync and time > >> stretching. > >> > >> which do you think would be more effective, a class action letter > >> from a > >> lawyer or the website? or both have to happen? > >> The suit is a good idea because, after all, their own marketing > >> blurbs tout > >> all those features as key reasons why to buy the thing. > >> > >> teddy k > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:34 AM, doc rossi > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > >>> > >>>> If we make a big fuss, saying, "YOUR UNIT HAS SERIOUS ISSUES AND > >>>> YOU > >>> > >>>> WON'T FIX THEM" then it will be bad PR for them. at least we get > >>>> to > >>>> cost them some $$$.... because if people really believe "they make > >>>> crappy products they won't support" then they won't buy them! > >>> > >>> I appreciate the idea, but I'm not sure they are worried about PR - > >> > >> There isn't a company in the world that sells to consumers that isn't > >> worried about PR. I mean, they care enough to put out their own > >> magazine. > >> > >> Believe you me, this is the sort of conversation that companies are > >> terrified of: > >> > >> "I'm going to get a Roland xxx" > >> "Oh, my friend had endless trouble with Roland's yyy -- don't do it." > >> > >> Whole companies have collapsed based on that sort of thing. > >> > >> If you read the explanation from tech support, it's really > >> dishonest. They > >> don't want to fix their old products because they're busy making new > >> products. In other words, it's a massive con to get your money with > >> products that don't work, and they'll never fix. > >> > >> So. I'll set up the domain, and make some movies. My movies > >> probably won't > >> come for a week, as even though I have a nice camera, it stays near > >> the > >> gig.... so get on your movies. > >> > >> > >> I'm also realizing that it might be fun to sue them in small claims > >> court... > >> as it isn't very time-consuming for me, and they probably won't > >> show up to > >> contest it. > >> > >> I have a particular hatred of being ripped off by large > >> corporations because > >> you know they're doing it to thousands of others. > > > > > > > > -- > > /t > > > > -- /t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:37:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9B33BEF5; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:36:58 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #569 for February 28, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47C8B33A.8060209@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:37:51 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080228.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #569 February 28, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from "Liquid Sound Volume 2." Manikin Records: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) synth.nl AirFlow AeroDynamics (Groove) Volt Evolution Nucleosynthesis (Groove) Spyra Xylophane High Phidelity(Ricochet Dream) VA [Spyra and Lang] Nenikekamen Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Fanger and Waterproof Guitar Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) Kersten] VA [Rainbow Serpent] Deep Dive Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) VA [AirSculpture] Not Raving, Floating Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) VA [Keller and Liquid Dawn Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) Schonwalder] 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Gert Emmens. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Waves of Dreams" on Groove Unlimited records. Gert Emmens: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#mar Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:59:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DB2F3BEF6; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=vwVOBFrxwp9F1Y2CEMJXzCKb2pMkN/IIprdLdln2vpM=; b=cJ6rIhShkfLwo97Q4x1ZrYPpqLa29fvF1QEO8bQsWVMxWSGt4tMWzcR3ny1VXqTCL316vdtDsRSo29dQ2ley4Gt3RGD4Q3V7w7oUXOY0QRoMLfZkl4FeqEgd98Ce5FFt9BDnZOi/3D7n4Hx7d1LQASUI5RiVAhQCnuDC6QlYcpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CkSn0yhGjHu+q4es/JNrjMb6N4wkXziS8NPWbRWduxyr/mRCfMppJ6ze9o3rQVTUilpUXYO7Iv488/Vt92lSOLKkQ7la9NZBwFsO4WWphs9yJUhxDztrfNKsfslQp0Ci3K4Ei40n9i63qQGUFp/p2hUcWVQfl7mu5kKcvj+xiPE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:59:06 -0500 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RPM Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and the files are all covered by Creative Commons licenses: The 2008 RPM Challenge: ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from release due to one track being used on a compilation CD that was supposed be distributed by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ Hope you enjoy. Dennis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 02:47:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC1393BEFB; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 02:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zYFrhPLjhFMZ7Sq1wambdW9Nm/pK9ddNpLRz9ZiNPhQ=; b=wCSI3LhzAyb7RUXs4dhRyNwRUR5Z2Qt88+/oCxnJ3NxgNXYe2YvsujJQEHXKDyK0oz1MrTdWoLnawnk1VxxEbprK7jKb5dGG7VjM6nb5AqKHxs/n/SzJSSYAD2EloIXOqsvZ2szCFjQlTOGrA8MNXbKxdSQBHu5nZV2wlZ8C9LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U5U6wRBqfCbTAmK5ujOU9FUcoxYngXVsgAoyiiEb3N/RPdhb9ZcYb9h5v2cZAFl6eroUN66cxag3VwE+QPv4/CmSwhI+G6Dp6+miTVo/o4EPvN9Qp5MQePJcPZfyum1svHu+OAfPhTXW8bwEeEfHc8EZ2KCyH9Ra2zifY4MZ0Bw= Message-ID: <9e0440a60802291847qdc76696ub912cf0a664d6b24@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:47:22 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183" References: <439892.46629.qm@web45111.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <47C87E1C.9000104@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3njGU.A.iDE.-OMyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 02:47:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline To add to the que I delivered my RPM entry titled *Skipping the Light* to the post office along with Daryl's ( to help minimize the international postal hasseles) *Rentintwain* which is just excellent by the way, about 4 this afternoon and breathed a major sigh of 'made it!' My recording is non-looping so thanks for your patience of why is this guy here, it's my solo acoustic work but this chapter all fretless, all acoustic (no electrical save the computer recording it) and totally improvised 11 pieces. Here's my link on RPM http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,2577/Itemid,296/. Very glad to have participated and completed work in this event and again special thanks to Tim Nelson who clued me into the Challenge last year. Best folks and now on to the CT-Collective insects project which is due tomorrow so I gotte get cricketing... Jim www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > LOL, Tim! I had to wait until my performance on 20 February ... > otherwise I'd have done the same thing! > > URL is on its' way ... > > Dennis > > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > It's per-Month, not per-DAY...! Damned overachiever! > > > > seriously, kudos (and to Dennis too)...let us know a public location > > where we can hear it. > > > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.c > > > > > > > --- highhorse@mhorse.com wrote: > > > > > >> Anybody else crank out an [RPM] album? > > >> > > > > > > Yup. I handed mine in in person on February 1st after > > > an all-night recording session... > > > > > > < > http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/Itemid,296/ > > > > > > > > -t- > > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
To add to the que I delivered my RPM entry titled Skipping the Light to the post office along with Daryl's ( to help minimize the international postal hasseles) Rentintwain which is just excellent by the way, about 4 this afternoon and breathed a major sigh of 'made it!'  My recording is non-looping so thanks for your patience of why is this guy here, it's my solo acoustic work but this chapter all fretless, all acoustic (no electrical save the computer recording it) and totally improvised 11 pieces.  Here's my link on RPM http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,2577/Itemid,296/.  Very glad to have participated and completed work in this event and again special thanks to Tim Nelson who clued me into the Challenge last year.
 
Best folks and now on to the CT-Collective insects project which is due tomorrow so I gotte get cricketing...
 
Jim


 
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL, Tim! I had to wait until my performance on 20 February ...
otherwise I'd have done the same thing!

URL is on its' way ...

Dennis

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
> It's per-Month, not per-DAY...! Damned overachiever!
>
>  seriously, kudos (and to Dennis too)...let us know a public location
>  where we can hear it.
>
>
>  Daryl Shawn
>  www.swanwelder.com
>  www.chinapaintingmusic.c
>
>
> > --- highhorse@mhorse.com wrote:
>  >
>  >> Anybody else crank out an [RPM] album?
>  >>
>  >
>  > Yup. I handed mine in in person on February 1st after
>  > an all-night recording session...
>  >
>  > <http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/Itemid,296/>
>  >
>  > -t-
>
>




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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 07:12:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACB9B3BED5; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001201c87a1c$5b0b0160$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 00:12:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:12:08 +0000 (UTC) >> reverb, but the principle is similar. The Waves reverb isn't >> half bad for mastering. For my laptop rig, I use a Max/msp >> reverb. It is a very difficult object to create. > > Normally, (pre-)mastering is not the processing stage to add reverb. Not sure I followed you here, Rainer, but of course I didn't elaborate. Since I don't do any multi-track recording, all my reverb ins on my source recording files from my max/msp system, but I often add reverb in the final mastering of my files to add more depth, or just change the feel of the song. Or if I am recording my free jazz trio in a studio with just live mic, and everyone is playing dry, I will add rerverb in the final mastering process. I would agree with your point outside of the context in which I record. I have read in several sources for audio engineering that reverb can be applied during the mastering process to add more depth. ...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my max/msp reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the style of the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb. K- max v2; #N vpatcher 72 44 715 844; #P origin 7 -30; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.; #P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N comlet diffusion; #P inlet 487 22 15 0; #P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #N comlet damping; #P inlet 358 23 15 0; #P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #N comlet decay time; #P inlet 236 24 15 0; #P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #N comlet audio in; #P inlet 14 25 15 0; #N comlet size; #P inlet 105 24 15 0; #P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6; #P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f; #P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.; #P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~; #P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003; #P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998; #P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~; #P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997; #P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51; #P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.; #P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48; #P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006; #P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58; #N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352; #P inlet 913 24 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 0; #P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.; #P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.; #P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.; #P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.; #P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.; #P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.; #P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.; #P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15; #P inlet 408 72 15 0; #P inlet 790 73 15 0; #P inlet 276 73 15 0; #P inlet 654 73 15 0; #P inlet 528 73 15 0; #P inlet 24 74 15 0; #P inlet 150 73 15 0; #P outlet 276 191 15 0; #P connect 2 0 9 0; #P connect 17 0 9 1; #P connect 24 0 17 0; #P connect 1 0 10 0; #P connect 24 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 10 1; #P connect 5 0 11 0; #P connect 15 0 16 0; #P connect 13 0 16 0; #P connect 14 0 16 0; #P connect 11 0 16 0; #P connect 12 0 8 0; #P connect 16 0 8 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 0 0; #P connect 19 0 11 1; #P connect 24 0 19 0; #P connect 7 0 12 0; #P connect 24 0 20 0; #P connect 20 0 12 1; #P connect 3 0 13 0; #P connect 21 0 13 1; #P connect 24 0 21 0; #P connect 4 0 14 0; #P connect 22 0 14 1; #P connect 24 0 22 0; #P connect 6 0 15 0; #P connect 23 0 15 1; #P connect 24 0 23 0; #P pop; #P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL; #N vpatcher 10 59 977 304; #P inlet 923 33 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.; #P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.; #P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.; #P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.; #P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.; #P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.; #P window linecount 0; #P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.; #P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.; #P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15; #P inlet 404 87 15 0; #P inlet 784 87 15 0; #P inlet 272 87 15 0; #P inlet 650 87 15 0; #P inlet 520 87 15 0; #P inlet 10 88 15 0; #P inlet 141 87 15 0; #P outlet 272 197 15 0; #P connect 2 0 9 0; #P connect 24 0 17 0; #P connect 17 0 9 1; #P connect 1 0 10 0; #P connect 24 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 10 1; #P connect 5 0 11 0; #P connect 15 0 16 0; #P connect 11 0 16 0; #P connect 13 0 16 0; #P connect 14 0 16 0; #P connect 16 0 8 0; #P connect 12 0 8 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 0 0; #P connect 19 0 11 1; #P connect 24 0 19 0; #P connect 7 0 12 0; #P connect 20 0 12 1; #P connect 24 0 20 0; #P connect 3 0 13 0; #P connect 21 0 13 1; #P connect 24 0 21 0; #P connect 4 0 14 0; #P connect 22 0 14 1; #P connect 24 0 22 0; #P connect 6 0 15 0; #P connect 23 0 15 1; #P connect 24 0 23 0; #P pop; #P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR; #P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~; #P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~; #P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.; #P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; #P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.; #P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; #P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9; #P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999; #P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; #P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.; #P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; #P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5; #P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5; #P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; #P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; #P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.; #P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7; #P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7; #P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625; #P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625; #P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75; #P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75; #P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #N comlet out R; #P outlet 497 764 15 0; #N comlet out L; #P outlet 49 762 15 0; #P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com; #P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344; #P connect 31 0 1 0; #P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344; #P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590; #P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678; #P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477; #P connect 47 0 46 0; #P connect 46 0 45 0; #P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585; #P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714; #P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725; #P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 7 0; #P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293; #P lcolor 7; #P connect 7 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 10 0; #P connect 10 0 14 0; #P connect 14 0 16 0; #P connect 16 0 17 0; #P connect 17 0 19 0; #P connect 19 0 20 0; #P connect 35 0 20 0; #P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372; #P connect 33 0 42 0; #P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520; #P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444; #P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444; #P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290; #P connect 32 0 8 1; #P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527; #P connect 34 0 17 1; #P connect 28 0 26 0; #P connect 26 0 27 0; #P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597; #P connect 13 0 3 1; #P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484; #P connect 50 0 49 0; #P connect 49 0 23 0; #P connect 23 0 55 0; #P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98; #P connect 13 0 56 0; #P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285; #P lcolor 7; #P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272; #P connect 9 0 11 0; #P connect 11 0 12 0; #P connect 12 0 15 0; #P connect 15 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 21 0; #P connect 21 0 22 0; #P connect 40 0 22 0; #P connect 52 0 51 0; #P connect 51 0 13 0; #P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377; #P connect 37 0 38 0; #P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520; #P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444; #P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445; #P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291; #P connect 36 0 9 1; #P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527; #P connect 39 0 18 1; #P connect 24 0 25 0; #P connect 29 0 24 0; #P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599; #P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484; #P connect 54 0 53 0; #P connect 53 0 57 0; #P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343; #P connect 30 0 2 0; #P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343; #P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594; #P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691; #P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473; #P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604; #P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706; #P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272; #P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702; #P connect 44 0 43 0; #P connect 43 0 30 7; #P connect 44 1 43 1; #P pop; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 11:44:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88AFB3BED3; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=FtuIVksGmkmf6SBJVGoe9J5Tb0LW9mVAPrOZOhl17Uo=; b=Vjl2R0b1Btk+1ovuM66K1H9mAQTYUCfQ99NOk8NEM3eD623BwuaDjieHLy9M+6k7bT5pS1W5h5yRoV0k2HRRIyJdSyKDCr3jnz46DEjB3DMjxaFPpfNygn6wszSy7mUzjE15g6hLVDL/d3gEOvZMr4LHYZNe9tI5mHqFBGU5koA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BEHA1xn3X1MyMNgm7NKgBY2zYG2uiEhaVlMbb6hedEPVGE8TEIC+oR2QY7DaF6wnrdwusQTrxO6dNF4pmB+USZ+whc94aLC0kv1lvNWImgyowEEy7rC5B3FApcGa1qAcg3m2+O4KZQh6kT0HAEBi9ZDZ6nS0p7Rt89mp1ztpWaY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:44:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found this rather interesting: Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other > Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are > engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as > improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's > performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing > self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. Link to read more: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ------=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found this rather interesting: 

Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated.

Link to read more: 

I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation. 

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Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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------=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 12:32:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE4A13BED9; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 409 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:32:27 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 269139.37212.bm@omp205.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=brAuE4Cje2Q9tXBxoh7ZN82d0OZhpwfxG0IWMXJmvu2xfD39osOYeKha3Jx/JwH74OFkqm2pT2fzlrKgrldhJRwNrZ45pwpI8g8HhWOlzqBT7DBZQgepKI6nMgJP+OKn9/IlNmknnqXFF4b3wWta1MUjTkPXb6GMCpK0TNZ1Doc=; X-YMail-OSG: 9iOPYlQVM1nuRjkcbsJVQ9BtY6Jc.4B6OIQGbY8UGiv7qZMw4AzgDMqsfLlttFjU.i_gvLLo826F5ha36d.K9KLK4v82QgYjRlra9ScaDDEJffFgcD0- Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 04:25:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: RPM Files To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi Dennis, Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks comps too; apparently what happened is that the contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for several months is no longer with the company, so he had to start the whole process over again... I'm guessing it's no longer going to happen. I don't see why it in any way held up your release, though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion license thing, and you still retain all the rights to your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick even started the comp project... -t- --- Dennis Moser wrote: > Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and > the files are all > covered by Creative Commons licenses: > > The 2008 RPM Challenge: > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ > > The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from > release due to one > track being used on a compilation CD that was > supposed be distributed > by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ > > > Hope you enjoy. > > Dennis > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 13:42:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BA853BEDF; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010b01c87c6b$e488bad0$0901a8c0@kleiner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <012a01c87aa4$19f968a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:16:57 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+GAeONjDvfIq1PvtSKhqW40TyEICsGUJY3NFE z4cb6scPtm6+9ivr2Qqu96DnEf62QYMSCfFK9w2IQhCPNfcrYl TSykDnFO9KWtKkdUWQbT9a4bWpk7AMZ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) yes, i also remember that reverb... it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his trusty microverb: > > Which reminded me: > > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in it that was just amazing. > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with more Alesis and finally > Lexicons) > but I have never heard an infinite reverb setting that was so musical as > that > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks when I was first doing lop > > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, unfortuanately and the Alesis > gear > just doesn't seem to last very long. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 14:20:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC04B3BEE4; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wNrxCQZIeDEGFwIHj+P9vkOhutA+4eSPwr2/WW9pSLE=; b=ediPLKpIz3IjAZaoXfPx8bTn6PIh23Sq1UOFyXn9WICZ+82E71kkolnC5zPr85fVezc79ZhOCOanf13+/x1ai19uQulREs1GQgT0ON3g/OQE+n61T4+4lvqv3E5ZVdqjMh0m8LX9Zs4eqWD7WAgLFgusR0L6EKAs+X/KXnuo6Wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fe+pSQPXmQSK2VzLTaTPPBWj6Z2NaYeFg5vmKZI33WVRqJtlLxmRu6DN0rVCIlX53kNxJQJDhKIKEdKvZ3wIIcoNbBRiY7I0TcDMBM65lwkCJ0Rm7XYdZyEr6W83IOaOGsD5aY3OsWe0cnegm/ij8Z7huqBIZCxW+YOUh/NSJAE= Message-ID: <4759e5740803010620n3287e7ebja4cffc054a3d6b3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:20:14 -0500 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: qualities of reverb In-Reply-To: <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196" References: <001201c87a1c$5b0b0160$1001a8c0@succubus> <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:20:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Krispen, I'd dig hearing the stereo reverb for sure! also, what are the ranges for the size and damping inlets? thanks man, this is the first reverb I've seen really built in max, exciting! Best to all, Todd On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > >> reverb, but the principle is similar. The Waves reverb isn't > >> half bad for mastering. For my laptop rig, I use a Max/msp > >> reverb. It is a very difficult object to create. > > > > Normally, (pre-)mastering is not the processing stage to add reverb. > > Not sure I followed you here, Rainer, but of course I didn't elaborate. > Since I don't do any multi-track recording, all my reverb ins on my source > recording files from my max/msp system, but I often add reverb in the > final > mastering of my files to add more depth, or just change the feel of the > song. Or if I am recording my free jazz trio in a studio with just live > mic, and everyone is playing dry, I will add rerverb in the final > mastering > process. I would agree with your point outside of the context in which I > record. I have read in several sources for audio engineering that reverb > can be applied during the mastering process to add more depth. > > ...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my > max/msp > reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the > style of the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to > stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for > anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb. > > K- > > max v2; > #N vpatcher 72 44 715 844; > #P origin 7 -30; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.; > #P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #N comlet diffusion; > #P inlet 487 22 15 0; > #P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet damping; > #P inlet 358 23 15 0; > #P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet decay time; > #P inlet 236 24 15 0; > #P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet audio in; > #P inlet 14 25 15 0; > #N comlet size; > #P inlet 105 24 15 0; > #P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6; > #P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f; > #P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.; > #P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~; > #P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003; > #P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998; > #P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~; > #P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997; > #P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51; > #P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.; > #P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48; > #P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006; > #P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58; > #N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352; > #P inlet 913 24 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.; > #P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.; > #P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.; > #P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.; > #P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.; > #P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.; > #P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 408 72 15 0; > #P inlet 790 73 15 0; > #P inlet 276 73 15 0; > #P inlet 654 73 15 0; > #P inlet 528 73 15 0; > #P inlet 24 74 15 0; > #P inlet 150 73 15 0; > #P outlet 276 191 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL; > #N vpatcher 10 59 977 304; > #P inlet 923 33 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.; > #P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.; > #P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.; > #P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.; > #P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.; > #P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.; > #P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 404 87 15 0; > #P inlet 784 87 15 0; > #P inlet 272 87 15 0; > #P inlet 650 87 15 0; > #P inlet 520 87 15 0; > #P inlet 10 88 15 0; > #P inlet 141 87 15 0; > #P outlet 272 197 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR; > #P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9; > #P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999; > #P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.; > #P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5; > #P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5; > #P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.; > #P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7; > #P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7; > #P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625; > #P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625; > #P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75; > #P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75; > #P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #N comlet out R; > #P outlet 497 764 15 0; > #N comlet out L; > #P outlet 49 762 15 0; > #P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of > Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com; > #P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344; > #P connect 31 0 1 0; > #P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344; > #P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590; > #P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678; > #P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477; > #P connect 47 0 46 0; > #P connect 46 0 45 0; > #P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585; > #P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714; > #P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725; > #P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140; > #P connect 3 0 4 0; > #P connect 4 0 5 0; > #P connect 5 0 6 0; > #P connect 6 0 7 0; > #P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293; > #P lcolor 7; > #P connect 7 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 10 0; > #P connect 10 0 14 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 19 0; > #P connect 19 0 20 0; > #P connect 35 0 20 0; > #P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372; > #P connect 33 0 42 0; > #P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520; > #P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444; > #P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444; > #P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290; > #P connect 32 0 8 1; > #P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527; > #P connect 34 0 17 1; > #P connect 28 0 26 0; > #P connect 26 0 27 0; > #P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597; > #P connect 13 0 3 1; > #P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484; > #P connect 50 0 49 0; > #P connect 49 0 23 0; > #P connect 23 0 55 0; > #P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98; > #P connect 13 0 56 0; > #P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285; > #P lcolor 7; > #P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272; > #P connect 9 0 11 0; > #P connect 11 0 12 0; > #P connect 12 0 15 0; > #P connect 15 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 21 0; > #P connect 21 0 22 0; > #P connect 40 0 22 0; > #P connect 52 0 51 0; > #P connect 51 0 13 0; > #P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377; > #P connect 37 0 38 0; > #P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520; > #P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444; > #P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445; > #P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291; > #P connect 36 0 9 1; > #P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527; > #P connect 39 0 18 1; > #P connect 24 0 25 0; > #P connect 29 0 24 0; > #P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599; > #P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484; > #P connect 54 0 53 0; > #P connect 53 0 57 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343; > #P connect 30 0 2 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343; > #P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594; > #P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691; > #P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473; > #P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604; > #P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706; > #P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272; > #P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702; > #P connect 44 0 43 0; > #P connect 43 0 30 7; > #P connect 44 1 43 1; > #P pop; > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Krispen, I'd dig hearing the stereo reverb for sure!

also, what are the ranges for the size and damping inlets?

thanks man, this is the first reverb I've seen really built in max, exciting!

 
Best to all, 

Todd


On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:

>> reverb, but the principle is similar. The Waves reverb isn't
>> half bad for mastering. For my laptop rig, I use a Max/msp
>> reverb. It is a very difficult object to create.
>
> Normally, (pre-)mastering is not the processing stage to add reverb.

Not sure I followed you here, Rainer, but of course I didn't elaborate.
Since I don't do any multi-track recording, all my reverb ins on my source
recording files from my max/msp system, but I often add reverb in the final
mastering of my files to add more depth, or just change the feel of the
song.  Or if I am recording my free jazz trio in a studio with just live
mic, and everyone is playing dry, I will add rerverb in the final mastering
process. I would agree with your point outside of the context in which I
record.  I have read in several sources for audio engineering that reverb
can be applied during the mastering process to add more depth.

...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my max/msp
reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the
style of  the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to
stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for
anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb.

K-

max v2;
#N vpatcher 72 44 715 844;
#P origin 7 -30;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.;
#P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#N comlet diffusion;
#P inlet 487 22 15 0;
#P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet damping;
#P inlet 358 23 15 0;
#P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet decay time;
#P inlet 236 24 15 0;
#P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet audio in;
#P inlet 14 25 15 0;
#N comlet size;
#P inlet 105 24 15 0;
#P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6;
#P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f;
#P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.;
#P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~;
#P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003;
#P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998;
#P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~;
#P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997;
#P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51;
#P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.;
#P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48;
#P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006;
#P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58;
#N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352;
#P inlet 913 24 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.;
#P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.;
#P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.;
#P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.;
#P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.;
#P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.;
#P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 408 72 15 0;
#P inlet 790 73 15 0;
#P inlet 276 73 15 0;
#P inlet 654 73 15 0;
#P inlet 528 73 15 0;
#P inlet 24 74 15 0;
#P inlet 150 73 15 0;
#P outlet 276 191 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL;
#N vpatcher 10 59 977 304;
#P inlet 923 33 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.;
#P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.;
#P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.;
#P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.;
#P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.;
#P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.;
#P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 404 87 15 0;
#P inlet 784 87 15 0;
#P inlet 272 87 15 0;
#P inlet 650 87 15 0;
#P inlet 520 87 15 0;
#P inlet 10 88 15 0;
#P inlet 141 87 15 0;
#P outlet 272 197 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR;
#P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9;
#P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999;
#P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.;
#P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5;
#P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5;
#P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.;
#P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7;
#P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7;
#P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625;
#P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625;
#P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75;
#P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75;
#P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#N comlet out R;
#P outlet 497 764 15 0;
#N comlet out L;
#P outlet 49 762 15 0;
#P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of
Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com;
#P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344;
#P connect 31 0 1 0;
#P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344;
#P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590;
#P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678;
#P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477;
#P connect 47 0 46 0;
#P connect 46 0 45 0;
#P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585;
#P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714;
#P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725;
#P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293;
#P lcolor 7;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 19 0;
#P connect 19 0 20 0;
#P connect 35 0 20 0;
#P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372;
#P connect 33 0 42 0;
#P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520;
#P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444;
#P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444;
#P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290;
#P connect 32 0 8 1;
#P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527;
#P connect 34 0 17 1;
#P connect 28 0 26 0;
#P connect 26 0 27 0;
#P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597;
#P connect 13 0 3 1;
#P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484;
#P connect 50 0 49 0;
#P connect 49 0 23 0;
#P connect 23 0 55 0;
#P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98;
#P connect 13 0 56 0;
#P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285;
#P lcolor 7;
#P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272;
#P connect 9 0 11 0;
#P connect 11 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 21 0;
#P connect 21 0 22 0;
#P connect 40 0 22 0;
#P connect 52 0 51 0;
#P connect 51 0 13 0;
#P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377;
#P connect 37 0 38 0;
#P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520;
#P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444;
#P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445;
#P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291;
#P connect 36 0 9 1;
#P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527;
#P connect 39 0 18 1;
#P connect 24 0 25 0;
#P connect 29 0 24 0;
#P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599;
#P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484;
#P connect 54 0 53 0;
#P connect 53 0 57 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343;
#P connect 30 0 2 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343;
#P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594;
#P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691;
#P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473;
#P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604;
#P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706;
#P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272;
#P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702;
#P connect 44 0 43 0;
#P connect 43 0 30 7;
#P connect 44 1 43 1;
#P pop;




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------=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 15:01:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 840E03BEE0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <008101c87aff$37b420a0$0300000a@erdem> References: <625537.46282.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008101c87aff$37b420a0$0300000a@erdem> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-590723305 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:01:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:01:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-590723305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Pigtronix has some really unique stuff. On Feb 29, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hey, > > i always need more effects :) just kidding.... > > i was just wondering if there are any interesting hardware > multieffects units on the market besides the fireworx and eclipse. > lately i am much more interested in boutique analog pedals like > zvex ringtone, fuzz factory etc. i think i will try those soon. > > as for micropog. i have recently bought in NY. i use it for pitch > shifting the delay lines. for that effect, it is very good. but for > chords it is pretty useless unfortunately. it has a very organ like > sound which some of you may love or hate. > > thanks a lot and best regards. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA131 > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/ > sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: scott hansen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:59 PM > Subject: OT: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB > > late reply- > multi-effects-i will have to agree w/ someone who said: you have an > eventide eclipse and lexicon mpx100 and tc fireworks--AND YOU NEED > MORE EFFECTS? > > i thought the eventides where the king of good weird effects? way > out of my price range! my setup currently: (guitar or keyboard-) > zoom g2-digitech rp150-digitech synthwah-boss dd20-(kustom 12 watt > tube amp or direct to fostex mr8)... > > my cheapo set up allows me to get normal sounds or anything pretty > wacky if i need it. the zoom g2 has some interesting options w/ the > ring mod, and then it splits the wahs/ring/phaser/tremolo before > amp, and then gives you some other modulations options (chorus- > pitch, etc) after, and there are possibility of having 3 different > delays going (good if you are only using one effect devise)...so i > think its a good sonic mangler, but i'm not sure if i'd say it > would beat an eventide unit, i mean it does only cost 100$! > > as for REVERBS: i have minimal experience w/ a lot of gear, i did > like the reverbs on my digitech dsp256xl-it had a real 80's quality > to it, but i liked that. had a lot of spacey sounds. i also liked > my lexicon mpx100-thought the reverbs were good & all-UNTIL THE > THING DIED ON ME!!!!. didn't like that. from what i've read, it > appears that the folks who are masters of spacey reverb stuff > (Torn, Fripp, et al) all seem to use either the highend Lexicon > units or Eventide units. > > the funny thing about this thread is i have been thinking about my > reverb options-i like my multi-effect pedal options, but haven't > been loving the reverb sounds in the units and have debated getting > another rack unit for reverbs. just don't like the space they take > up. and i've also been missing the option of reversing samples that > my old dod d12 did so easy w/ the 6 sec samples. always searching i > guess.... > s--- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. --Apple-Mail-1-590723305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pigtronix has some really unique stuff.=A0
On Feb 29, 2008, = at 1:16 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:

hey,
=A0
i = always need more effects :) just kidding....
=A0
i = was just wondering if there are any interesting hardware multieffects = units on the market besides the fireworx and eclipse. lately i am much = more interested in boutique analog pedals like zvex ringtone, fuzz = factory etc. i think i will try those soon.
=A0
as = for micropog. i have recently bought in NY. i use it for pitch shifting = the delay lines. for that effect, it is very good. but for chords it is = pretty useless unfortunately. it has a very organ like sound which some = of you may love or hate.
=A0
thanks a lot and best = regards.
=A0
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
<= a = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu">www.myspace.com/erdemhelv= acioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered = Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the = year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA131
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D= 8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8
----- Original Message = -----
Sent:=A0Friday, February 29, 2008 6:59 = PM
=A0OT: = late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB

late = reply-
multi-effects-i will have to agree w/ someone who said: you = have an eventide eclipse and lexicon mpx100 and tc fireworks--AND YOU = NEED MORE EFFECTS?

i thought the eventides where the king of good = weird effects? way out of my price range! my setup currently: (guitar or = keyboard-)zoom g2-digitech rp150-digitech synthwah-boss dd20-(kustom 12 = watt tube amp or direct to fostex mr8)...

my cheapo set up allows = me to get normal sounds or anything pretty wacky if i need it. the zoom = g2 has some interesting options w/ the ring mod, and then it splits the = wahs/ring/phaser/tremolo before amp, and then gives you some other = modulations options (chorus-pitch, etc) after, and there are possibility = of having 3 different delays going (good if you are only using one = effect devise)...so i think its a good sonic mangler, but i'm not sure = if i'd say it would beat an eventide unit, i mean it does only cost = 100$!

as for REVERBS: i have minimal experience w/ a lot of gear, = i did like the reverbs on my digitech dsp256xl-it had a real 80's = quality to it, but i liked that. had a lot of spacey sounds. i also = liked my lexicon mpx100-thought the reverbs were good & all-UNTIL = THE THING DIED ON ME!!!!. didn't like that. from what i've read, it = appears that the folks who are masters of spacey reverb stuff (Torn, = Fripp, et al) all seem to use either the highend Lexicon units or = Eventide units.=A0

the= funny thing about this thread is i have been thinking about my reverb = options-i like my multi-effect pedal options, but haven't been loving = the reverb sounds in the units and have debated getting another rack = unit for reverbs. just don't like the space they take up. and i've also = been missing the option of reversing samples that my old dod d12 did so = easy w/ the 6 sec samples. always searching i = guess....
s---

Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! = Mobile.=A0Try it = now.

= --Apple-Mail-1-590723305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 15:04:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C4E63BEE0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120802291724w15fc51fmaf8b0d6083204049@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120802251440n7c7cbb48yc174d9127d6288cd@mail.gmail.com> <83D9E5D1-2E61-44A8-B61C-FED3CF886ED4@mac.com> <26ba8d120802260024k50923fffg11f1fb9fa0f5b92e@mail.gmail.com> <47C3D0F4.9040007@tiscali.co.uk> <26ba8d120802261101x60cccaf3kf58e1c635366068e@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120802281658j21872f7cw9993fee328522454@mail.gmail.com> <44D05C6A-83AA-464B-927E-2CEDD2272A7B@mac.com> <26ba8d120802291724w15fc51fmaf8b0d6083204049@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5D1C6B67-3258-47F7-94CD-BA27EFC9B7DE@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:04:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) If you guys want, I could set up a MySpace/disgruntledRC50users page. We could then all add our names, link to your videos, and link to any pertinent sites. On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > Well, of course. I'm not intending to host the videos myself! > > But we need a central page to point people to with the text > explanation. > > HOWEVER, if sound priority mode really works, I'm a lot less likely to > want to do the work. I still haven't had a chance to check it out > yet... > > > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Chris Sewell > wrote: >> Why not just use YouTube? Perspective buyers are always searching for >> gear on there. >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: >> >>> I think the website will be really easy to pull off. I just need to >>> get a time in front of the camera, or someone else needs to >>> deliver a >>> movie, for the ball to be rolling. >>> >>> Making the website itself, registering, hosting, that's like an hour >>> of my time. >>> >>> I have a theory that once we get a few movies, other people will >>> chime >>> in. Or at least, we'll have a few moves. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Teddy Kumpel >>> wrote: >>>> I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this >>>> point, is >>>> really annoying because of the glitches, midi sync and time >>>> stretching. >>>> >>>> which do you think would be more effective, a class action letter >>>> from a >>>> lawyer or the website? or both have to happen? >>>> The suit is a good idea because, after all, their own marketing >>>> blurbs tout >>>> all those features as key reasons why to buy the thing. >>>> >>>> teddy k >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:34 AM, doc rossi >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If we make a big fuss, saying, "YOUR UNIT HAS SERIOUS ISSUES AND >>>>>> YOU >>>>> >>>>>> WON'T FIX THEM" then it will be bad PR for them. at least we get >>>>>> to >>>>>> cost them some $$$.... because if people really believe "they >>>>>> make >>>>>> crappy products they won't support" then they won't buy them! >>>>> >>>>> I appreciate the idea, but I'm not sure they are worried about >>>>> PR - >>>> >>>> There isn't a company in the world that sells to consumers that >>>> isn't >>>> worried about PR. I mean, they care enough to put out their own >>>> magazine. >>>> >>>> Believe you me, this is the sort of conversation that companies are >>>> terrified of: >>>> >>>> "I'm going to get a Roland xxx" >>>> "Oh, my friend had endless trouble with Roland's yyy -- don't do >>>> it." >>>> >>>> Whole companies have collapsed based on that sort of thing. >>>> >>>> If you read the explanation from tech support, it's really >>>> dishonest. They >>>> don't want to fix their old products because they're busy making >>>> new >>>> products. In other words, it's a massive con to get your money >>>> with >>>> products that don't work, and they'll never fix. >>>> >>>> So. I'll set up the domain, and make some movies. My movies >>>> probably won't >>>> come for a week, as even though I have a nice camera, it stays near >>>> the >>>> gig.... so get on your movies. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm also realizing that it might be fun to sue them in small claims >>>> court... >>>> as it isn't very time-consuming for me, and they probably won't >>>> show up to >>>> contest it. >>>> >>>> I have a particular hatred of being ripped off by large >>>> corporations because >>>> you know they're doing it to thousands of others. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> /t >>> >> >> > > > > -- > /t > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 15:36:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 731EE3BEE0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cIRWSgDAr1BkcxIsXhJQcoVQGlXEi1RAp4M52ORXO44=; b=rpOYt6qYcAghsndGfsOHnP6b8LhBqPY7cwiCvTTgE/b4+fd2GhV3tZQN7lvC2CRtNQbJvpmtBIc9tZE1jlCxStxiMpigpvBI7vfC9ky7j7EkispfWKUschoVbpY3gdEBzygtMe++ZAjNeodFbeV/EP5KamrTZrUvbKr8Z4DeBos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lFB6XzRRIW5wnUwZB6iCm3CD1ZdTNeA3iRNrBsKo48bn0pcJWDCB858EF/uhyFVy2VfXN3KxTmE/sfVhHiKo6coecAtC4UkVamQf5TfNa1h7/DfQwohjHK8Rx68wAfCg0Pk9dn885ua8iJF9Opog8ECnz4WvDOQFTY9pKe1RFSk= Message-ID: <4759e5740803010736y713371a4t5c3bdbdb8b43481f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:36:09 -0500 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: qualities of reverb In-Reply-To: <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171" References: <001201c87a1c$5b0b0160$1001a8c0@succubus> <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:36:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Krispen, I might be being a total idiot here, but do we not need this combineL and R patcher to get audio out the outlets? i'm not sure what all the audio cables are so as to route them properly... On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > ...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my > max/msp > reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the > style of the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to > stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for > anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb. > > K- > > max v2; > #N vpatcher 72 44 715 844; > #P origin 7 -30; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.; > #P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #N comlet diffusion; > #P inlet 487 22 15 0; > #P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet damping; > #P inlet 358 23 15 0; > #P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet decay time; > #P inlet 236 24 15 0; > #P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet audio in; > #P inlet 14 25 15 0; > #N comlet size; > #P inlet 105 24 15 0; > #P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6; > #P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f; > #P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.; > #P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~; > #P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003; > #P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998; > #P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~; > #P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997; > #P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51; > #P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.; > #P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48; > #P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006; > #P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58; > #N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352; > #P inlet 913 24 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.; > #P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.; > #P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.; > #P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.; > #P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.; > #P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.; > #P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 408 72 15 0; > #P inlet 790 73 15 0; > #P inlet 276 73 15 0; > #P inlet 654 73 15 0; > #P inlet 528 73 15 0; > #P inlet 24 74 15 0; > #P inlet 150 73 15 0; > #P outlet 276 191 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL; > #N vpatcher 10 59 977 304; > #P inlet 923 33 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.; > #P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.; > #P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.; > #P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.; > #P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.; > #P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.; > #P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 404 87 15 0; > #P inlet 784 87 15 0; > #P inlet 272 87 15 0; > #P inlet 650 87 15 0; > #P inlet 520 87 15 0; > #P inlet 10 88 15 0; > #P inlet 141 87 15 0; > #P outlet 272 197 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR; > #P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9; > #P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999; > #P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.; > #P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5; > #P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5; > #P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.; > #P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7; > #P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7; > #P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625; > #P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625; > #P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75; > #P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75; > #P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #N comlet out R; > #P outlet 497 764 15 0; > #N comlet out L; > #P outlet 49 762 15 0; > #P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of > Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com; > #P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344; > #P connect 31 0 1 0; > #P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344; > #P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590; > #P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678; > #P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477; > #P connect 47 0 46 0; > #P connect 46 0 45 0; > #P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585; > #P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714; > #P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725; > #P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140; > #P connect 3 0 4 0; > #P connect 4 0 5 0; > #P connect 5 0 6 0; > #P connect 6 0 7 0; > #P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293; > #P lcolor 7; > #P connect 7 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 10 0; > #P connect 10 0 14 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 19 0; > #P connect 19 0 20 0; > #P connect 35 0 20 0; > #P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372; > #P connect 33 0 42 0; > #P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520; > #P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444; > #P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444; > #P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290; > #P connect 32 0 8 1; > #P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527; > #P connect 34 0 17 1; > #P connect 28 0 26 0; > #P connect 26 0 27 0; > #P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597; > #P connect 13 0 3 1; > #P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484; > #P connect 50 0 49 0; > #P connect 49 0 23 0; > #P connect 23 0 55 0; > #P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98; > #P connect 13 0 56 0; > #P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285; > #P lcolor 7; > #P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272; > #P connect 9 0 11 0; > #P connect 11 0 12 0; > #P connect 12 0 15 0; > #P connect 15 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 21 0; > #P connect 21 0 22 0; > #P connect 40 0 22 0; > #P connect 52 0 51 0; > #P connect 51 0 13 0; > #P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377; > #P connect 37 0 38 0; > #P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520; > #P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444; > #P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445; > #P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291; > #P connect 36 0 9 1; > #P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527; > #P connect 39 0 18 1; > #P connect 24 0 25 0; > #P connect 29 0 24 0; > #P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599; > #P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484; > #P connect 54 0 53 0; > #P connect 53 0 57 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343; > #P connect 30 0 2 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343; > #P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594; > #P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691; > #P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473; > #P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604; > #P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706; > #P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272; > #P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702; > #P connect 44 0 43 0; > #P connect 43 0 30 7; > #P connect 44 1 43 1; > #P pop; > > ------=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Krispen, I might be being a total idiot here, but do we not need this combineL and R patcher to get audio out the outlets?  i'm not sure what all the audio cables are so as to route them properly... 

On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:

...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my max/msp
reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the
style of  the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to
stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for
anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb.

K-

max v2;
#N vpatcher 72 44 715 844;
#P origin 7 -30;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.;
#P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#N comlet diffusion;
#P inlet 487 22 15 0;
#P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet damping;
#P inlet 358 23 15 0;
#P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet decay time;
#P inlet 236 24 15 0;
#P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet audio in;
#P inlet 14 25 15 0;
#N comlet size;
#P inlet 105 24 15 0;
#P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6;
#P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f;
#P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.;
#P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~;
#P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003;
#P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998;
#P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~;
#P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997;
#P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51;
#P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.;
#P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48;
#P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006;
#P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58;
#N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352;
#P inlet 913 24 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.;
#P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.;
#P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.;
#P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.;
#P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.;
#P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.;
#P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 408 72 15 0;
#P inlet 790 73 15 0;
#P inlet 276 73 15 0;
#P inlet 654 73 15 0;
#P inlet 528 73 15 0;
#P inlet 24 74 15 0;
#P inlet 150 73 15 0;
#P outlet 276 191 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL;
#N vpatcher 10 59 977 304;
#P inlet 923 33 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.;
#P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.;
#P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.;
#P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.;
#P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.;
#P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.;
#P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 404 87 15 0;
#P inlet 784 87 15 0;
#P inlet 272 87 15 0;
#P inlet 650 87 15 0;
#P inlet 520 87 15 0;
#P inlet 10 88 15 0;
#P inlet 141 87 15 0;
#P outlet 272 197 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR;
#P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9;
#P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999;
#P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.;
#P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5;
#P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5;
#P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.;
#P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7;
#P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7;
#P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625;
#P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625;
#P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75;
#P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75;
#P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#N comlet out R;
#P outlet 497 764 15 0;
#N comlet out L;
#P outlet 49 762 15 0;
#P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of
Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com;
#P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344;
#P connect 31 0 1 0;
#P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344;
#P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590;
#P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678;
#P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477;
#P connect 47 0 46 0;
#P connect 46 0 45 0;
#P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585;
#P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714;
#P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725;
#P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293;
#P lcolor 7;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 19 0;
#P connect 19 0 20 0;
#P connect 35 0 20 0;
#P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372;
#P connect 33 0 42 0;
#P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520;
#P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444;
#P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444;
#P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290;
#P connect 32 0 8 1;
#P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527;
#P connect 34 0 17 1;
#P connect 28 0 26 0;
#P connect 26 0 27 0;
#P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597;
#P connect 13 0 3 1;
#P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484;
#P connect 50 0 49 0;
#P connect 49 0 23 0;
#P connect 23 0 55 0;
#P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98;
#P connect 13 0 56 0;
#P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285;
#P lcolor 7;
#P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272;
#P connect 9 0 11 0;
#P connect 11 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 21 0;
#P connect 21 0 22 0;
#P connect 40 0 22 0;
#P connect 52 0 51 0;
#P connect 51 0 13 0;
#P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377;
#P connect 37 0 38 0;
#P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520;
#P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444;
#P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445;
#P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291;
#P connect 36 0 9 1;
#P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527;
#P connect 39 0 18 1;
#P connect 24 0 25 0;
#P connect 29 0 24 0;
#P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599;
#P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484;
#P connect 54 0 53 0;
#P connect 53 0 57 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343;
#P connect 30 0 2 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343;
#P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594;
#P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691;
#P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473;
#P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604;
#P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706;
#P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272;
#P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702;
#P connect 44 0 43 0;
#P connect 43 0 30 7;
#P connect 44 1 43 1;
#P pop;



------=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 16:01:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8BCB3BEF0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=L/1NJ+Va+u3kGOwn2asOptycpZaaaOynpVd9CylI/5M=; b=i2QNMZYXo4gDCdicaMpkwa5PMjSuninEe60dtGDo2FDwlGZ20oti6UIRse1PIkHismb2WVqY2zQMgfDRJv/vBgMfSlXxlqnK6Eb8iUm9IrWvHCJeV8Dkv1aXO28/hcUGBb70r05pqGO2e6UIgVPsLYskZDWJMuoDNbS6qBHZON0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kiSjyoTrq3+gf94naz5jba7pqSp7d/gYSmWlznmAXJHjcqm2htDZ0y+S/8QOfQCwh1FJ0oWsq0NtELK1Gf35eisYxMdZ49rwU1NzMt/th7LMB03NijtfvCfeu1bv7zD2o3zqgdKcDZQr/NW7sc0NUj73faZjZUuXXRvLERuEWQQ= Message-ID: <9e0440a60803010801t722b6a79pe8426db7b1243b5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:01:19 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RPM Files In-Reply-To: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9878_17690095.1204387279501" References: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9878_17690095.1204387279501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tim I was also on one of those collections that Mick was putting together. The last I heard was a pitch from him towards end of 07 encouraging all participatants to purchase a copy in support of the project. That seemed strangely a bit much. Anyhow sounds like this pursuit has hit a wall... Jim On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks > comps too; apparently what happened is that the > contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for > several months is no longer with the company, so he > had to start the whole process over again... I'm > guessing it's no longer going to happen. > > I don't see why it in any way held up your release, > though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion > license thing, and you still retain all the rights to > your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick > even started the comp project... > > -t- > > --- Dennis Moser wrote: > > > Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and > > the files are all > > covered by Creative Commons licenses: > > > > The 2008 RPM Challenge: > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ > > > > The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from > > release due to one > > track being used on a compilation CD that was > > supposed be distributed > > by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ > > > > > > Hope you enjoy. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_9878_17690095.1204387279501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Tim I  was also on one  of those collections that Mick was putting together.  The last  I heard was a pitch from him towards end of 07 encouraging all participatants to purchase a copy in support of the project.  That seemed strangely a bit much. Anyhow sounds like this pursuit has hit a wall...
 
Jim

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis,

Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks
comps too; apparently what happened is that the
contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for
several months is no longer with the company, so he
had to start the whole process over again... I'm
guessing it's no longer going to happen.

I don't see why it in any way held up your release,
though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion
license thing, and you still retain all the rights to
your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick
even started the comp project...

-t-

--- Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and
> the files are all
> covered by Creative Commons licenses:
>
> The 2008 RPM Challenge:
>
>             ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/
>
> The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from
> release due to one
> track being used on a compilation CD that was
> supposed be distributed
> by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!):
>
>              ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/
>
>
> Hope you enjoy.
>
> Dennis
>
>


http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes
http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson
http://www.youtube.com/speleman62


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Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret

Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-752000669-1204391804=:68598-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 17:55:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C34E3BEF0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=5OOOXLRU6k9JlfMlwT/KrKAoX9J14Ups081JKlmCcak=; b=eaX+p8jvyUb2SDuNsckoUflcIQ+VgtWq/EJ0/eREcO6VVSOd1mLmiJyauissTqEtbamNGkV0+aQ/OEj+0Dw4NDe8zWGY3ZWo/kT5IS0dOPE0/g4wAKO5ZxdeRfjpnyq/Uj1OsMEF0WT9iUAMYn1N2CZJqvrxWT1wvfT1cw/h0b8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=NsU5j2LJfIvYuHmJVEcQOhd1fO4DAgJT7zFD4ZihaHZOr3tgmoAp9cPgG0sI0B8RGtu3vQj3fz1l6zuSoEwz1AVV+DJuwXEYecNq9t2hy1WeMBa+eRSmvl5YphRTow39C5Ci7nkqnwEWlIhCRpf1W9MAWgNyyJdYEnzpl1fsRus= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:55:15 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Augustus Loop - now Mac OS X VST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 179d5f88003eea43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've just released a beta version of Augustus Loop for OS X VST. If anyone here needs that format (e.g. Cubase users), I'd be very interested to hear how you get on with it (previously it's been AU only). http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ The Windows VST version is next! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 18:01:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F3C43BEE8; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=G0ppAfBRvO0WUZZDXOmqdeLebYgzQp+W0sr3V72fS8M=; b=SWT38Ej9MvdqTOgnWVp9eXoydXFrvZngYihpF54d7u5f6H7D2Mrui8lI2aWpxdz9QGrUUByWzhrbvvZHLwZRb0Wil30P1+feDsrwS7q72FweDqkGwg8ufJu1FGCAE76WaGAIcVp05oeV2otUQNyBR5DiXAqQ29j7UYP2J5pgg6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ode+JYBebjUxhcYoo5kDFt8XVQTQF1jChZOwOO1PWodsTEVFz6ovGnd+G2fcZbK4DK20dF4OsYgPPIuDzCVf6IZYjYA9TsU5Z2OYwC/DJ4G9RmNGP2Lfp/CP65hHgYK2R0ZLJGkz4KpABK5bhsc8dZfmAkQzdF90O93fczwghmQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:01:15 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) In-Reply-To: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3875_15662488.1204394475685" References: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3pPcBB.A.bKF.tnZyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:01:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3875_15662488.1204394475685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor. And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't > want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their > hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In > particular, > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European > power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works. > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I > thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its > says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W... > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need > some type of transformer?) > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go > from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is > adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ? > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really > appreciate the help! > > Thanks So Much! > > Margaret > > ------------------------------ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > ------=_Part_3875_15662488.1204394475685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor.  And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret

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Dearest One,
 
   My name is Miss Mary Clement, a 20 years old undergraduate. I am only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Johnson Clement, My father was a very wealthy Gold and Diamond Merchant in Monrovia the Gold Capital city of republic of Liberia in West Africa based in Abidjan Ivory Coast, my father was poisoned to death by his business associates while my mother died when I am little and my father took me so special because I am the only child.
 
   Before the death of my father on 4th June 2007 in a hospital here in Ivory Coast, he secretly called me and told me that he deposited some Gold and a huge sum of $7 million Dollars ($7, OOO, OOO USD) and the Diamond inside a box which he deposited with a Security and Trust Company her in Ivory Coast as family treasure. He also made me understand that it was because of this wealth he was poisoned while on a business trip with them and he instructed me to look for a foreign partner who will help me retrieve this box out from the trust Security Company. Without the knowledge of my uncle who was living with us then. On the 30th of December 2007 my uncle flew to the London with his children. With all that my father left behind, just because I am a woman and I do not have any right in my father property. My uncle seized all my father's companies and properties because of our traditional believe that I$B!G(Bm a woman. I was left with nothing and dropped out of school because of financial difficulties and my uncle's wicked attitude. Although I have contacted the security company they confirmed the lodgement.
 
   My purpose of contacting you is for you to help me, as my late father advised me at his sick bed.
1) To retrieve this box with the Gold, money and Diamonds inside to your location.
2) To make arrangement for me to come to your country to continue my education.
3) To utilize this money by investing it in good business.
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--0-275037921-1204394556=:84129-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 18:10:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC0FB3BEF0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01c301c87bc7$7ac55440$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: qualities of reverb (yafr max/msp Griesinger/Lexicon reverb) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:10:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Todd / all - This code should help. The first patch is what I uses to get access to the main reverb patch. It has the audio inlets/outlets, etc. The second patch is the main yafr2 reverb path which I modifed to be stereo. I can't actually tell how what the max decay is because of the scale it uses, but based on my use of the reverb, it must be HUGE. You can see that it has the decay settings, early reflection balance, then it has high freq rollout, mix, etc. Note there are tons of allpass filters to make this type of reverb, a few delays, and some onepole filters. It's an amazing patch, better than any of the other max reverb pathes I've used like gverb, gigverb, etc. Kris Audio Connection Patch #N comlet Enable/Disable; #P inlet 571 152 15 0; #N comlet Enable/Disable; #P inlet 528 151 15 0; #P user matrixctrl 280 273 70 45 MatrixDefaultCell.pct MatrixDefaultBkgnd.pct 70 45 16 16 4 2 16 16 1 1 48 2 5120 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 280 212 44 9109513 del 100; #P message 494 300 50 9109513 mute 0 0; #N comlet Audio Out R; #P outlet 427 399 15 0; #N comlet Audio Out L; #P outlet 395 399 15 0; #N comlet Enable/Disable; #P inlet 451 153 15 0; #N comlet Audio in R; #P inlet 417 153 15 0; #N comlet Audio in L; #P inlet 395 153 15 0; #P comment 288 233 50 9109513 effect on; #P message 339 336 54 9109513 ramp 100; #P newex 504 256 44 9109513 del 100; #P newex 451 178 52 9109513 route 0 1; #P newex 144 178 51 9109513 r loadbang; #P message 504 278 50 9109513 mute 0 1; #P message 280 249 115 9109513 2 0 1 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0; #P message 158 249 115 9109513 0 0 1 1 1 1 2 0 0 3 1 0; #P newex 395 367 77 9109513 matrix~ 4 2 1.; #P newex 439 340 143 9109513 poly~ yafr2_stereo_reverb_poly; #P comment 169 233 41 9109513 bypass; #P connect 20 0 1 3; #P connect 19 0 1 2; #P connect 8 0 5 0; #P fasten 7 0 8 0 456 202 509 202; #P fasten 6 0 3 0 149 202 163 202; #P fasten 6 0 9 0 149 328 344 328; #P fasten 6 0 8 0 149 202 509 202; #P fasten 7 1 17 0 477 202 285 202; #P fasten 7 1 16 0 477 202 499 202; #P connect 12 0 2 1; #P fasten 12 0 1 1 477 333 577 333; #P connect 1 1 2 3; #P connect 13 0 7 0; #P connect 1 0 2 2; #P connect 16 0 1 0; #P connect 5 0 1 0; #P connect 11 0 2 0; #P fasten 11 0 1 0 400 322 444 322; #P connect 2 1 15 0; #P connect 2 0 14 0; #P fasten 18 0 2 0 285 322 400 322; #P fasten 9 0 2 0 344 359 400 359; #P connect 4 0 18 0; #P connect 3 0 18 0; #P connect 17 0 4 0; #P fasten 7 0 3 0 456 202 163 202; #P window clipboard copycount 21; Reverb Patch #P button 10 38 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #N in~ 2; #P newobj 87 266 33 9109513 in~ 2; #N in~ 1; #P newobj 20 266 33 9109513 in~ 1; #P message 515 844 23 9109513 130; #P user gain~ 637 885 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P user gain~ 549 885 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #N out~ 2; #P newobj 636 1015 39 9109513 out~ 2; #N out~ 1; #P newobj 549 1014 39 9109513 out~ 1; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 12.; #P comment 757 141 42 9109516 R-Wet; #P comment 709 141 37 9109516 R-Dry; #P comment 579 140 37 9109516 L-Wet; #P comment 531 140 37 9109516 L-Dry; #P comment 1054 144 87 9109516 Right Channel; #P comment 302 143 78 9109516 Left Channel; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 645 24 51 9109513 r loadbang; #P message 64 66 18 9109513 40; #P message 42 66 14 9109513 0; #P message 10 66 23 9109513 127; #P message 91 66 23 9109513 100; #P number 586 314 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 542 314 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P message 122 67 23 9109513 130; #P newex 668 166 55 9109513 sig~ 0.707; #P newex 799 167 39 9109513 sig~ 1.; #P newex 801 833 27 9109513 +~; #P user gain~ 723 165 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 745 802 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P user gain~ 764 165 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 845 800 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P newex 1104 273 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 1033 273 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 961 273 63 9109513 prepend set; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 1175 183 28 9109513 yafr -2up; #B color 7; #P user hslider 961 233 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 1106 231 75 9109513 high frequency rolloff; #B color 12; #P user hslider 961 205 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 1106 200 92 9109513 reverb/early reflections balance; #B color 12; #P user hslider 961 179 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 1106 179 60 9109513 reverb time; #B color 12; #P comment 890 656 73 9109513 early ref. mix; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 1133 645 73 9109513 reverb tail: series allpass.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 806 765 158 9109513 uncorrelators make stereo effect; #P newex 1349 622 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 1349 581 27 9109513 + 0.; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 761 553 93 9109513 early refs: allpass in feedback.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 1350 534 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 986 734 60 9109513 tapout~ 10.; #P newex 986 714 54 9109513 tapin~ 10.; #P newex 986 695 39 9109513 *~ 0.2; #P newex 1350 493 27 9109513 + 0.; #P newex 859 619 105 9109513 expr (1. - $f1) * 0.5; #P newex 859 595 92 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 771 653 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 741 653 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 952 383 33 9109513 * 30.; #P newex 916 383 33 9109513 * 76.; #P newex 874 383 39 9109513 * 122.; #P newex 874 313 98 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 741 498 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 900 684 33 9109513 * 0.85; #P newex 854 705 102 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.38; #P newex 1420 439 20 9109513 t b; #P flonum 1257 663 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 1256 622 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 1257 578 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 1255 534 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 1381 602 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 1381 559 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 1381 514 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 1381 470 27 9109513 * 1.; #P flonum 1104 341 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 741 341 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 741 448 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 741 472 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 977 313 122 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 200. 8000.; #P newex 1097 615 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.63; #P newex 1097 556 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.72; #P newex 1097 527 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.75; #P newex 741 522 45 9109513 *~ -0.3; #P newex 741 424 65 9109513 tapout~ 130.; #P newex 741 400 60 9109513 tapin~ 130.; #P newex 1104 313 101 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 1. 76; #P newex 1097 587 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.662; #P comment 998 766 64 9109513 feedback tap; #P user panel 976 682 91 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 1092 519 119 157; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 737 384 124 201; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 737 683 233 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 737 590 233 83; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 947 165 273 106; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P newex 483 165 55 9109513 sig~ 0.707; #P newex 625 165 39 9109513 sig~ 1.; #P user gain~ 540 165 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 23 801 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P user gain~ 583 166 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 103 801 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P newex 65 836 27 9109513 +~; #P newex 358 269 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 287 269 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 215 269 63 9109513 prepend set; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 429 179 28 9109513 yafr -2up; #B color 7; #P user hslider 215 229 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 360 227 75 9109513 high frequency rolloff; #B color 12; #P user hslider 215 201 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 360 196 92 9109513 reverb/early reflections balance; #B color 12; #P user hslider 215 175 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 360 175 60 9109513 reverb time; #B color 12; #P message 671 359 50 9109513 1.16; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 159 342 118 9109513 magic numbers for early reflection times.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 168 652 73 9109513 early ref. mix; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 411 641 73 9109513 reverb tail: series allpass.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 84 761 158 9109513 uncorrelators make stereo effect; #P newex 603 615 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 603 574 27 9109513 + 0.; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 39 549 93 9109513 early refs: allpass in feedback.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 396 435 160 9109513 expr cos($f1* .06283185) * 0.3; #N counter 100; #X flags 0 0; #P newobj 396 414 66 9109513 counter 100; #P newex 604 527 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 264 730 60 9109513 tapout~ 10.; #P newex 264 710 54 9109513 tapin~ 10.; #P newex 264 691 39 9109513 *~ 0.2; #P newex 604 486 27 9109513 + 0.; #P newex 396 393 50 9109513 metro 10; #P newex 137 615 105 9109513 expr (1. - $f1) * 0.5; #P newex 137 591 92 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 49 649 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 19 649 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 230 379 33 9109513 * 30.; #P newex 194 379 33 9109513 * 76.; #P newex 152 379 39 9109513 * 122.; #P newex 152 309 98 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 19 494 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 652 429 20 9109513 t b; #P flonum 671 379 45 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 511 656 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 510 615 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 511 571 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 509 527 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 635 595 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 635 552 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 635 507 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 635 463 27 9109513 * 1.; #P flonum 382 337 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 19 337 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 19 444 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 19 468 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 255 309 122 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 200. 8000.; #P newex 19 701 92 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.35; #P newex 375 611 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.63; #P newex 375 552 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.72; #P newex 375 523 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.75; #P newex 19 518 45 9109513 *~ -0.3; #P newex 19 420 65 9109513 tapout~ 130.; #P newex 19 396 60 9109513 tapin~ 130.; #P newex 382 309 101 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 1. 76; #P newex 375 583 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.662; #P comment 276 762 64 9109513 feedback tap; #P user panel 254 678 91 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 370 515 119 157; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 15 380 124 201; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 16 681 233 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 15 586 233 83; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 201 161 273 106; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P comment 41 35 59 9109513 Long Decay; #P connect 30 0 31 0; #P fasten 30 0 22 1 676 460 657 460; #P fasten 30 0 23 1 676 502 657 502; #P fasten 30 0 24 1 676 547 657 547; #P fasten 30 0 25 1 676 591 657 591; #P connect 30 0 94 1; #P connect 30 0 95 1; #P connect 30 0 96 1; #P connect 30 0 97 1; #P connect 30 0 102 0; #P connect 96 0 120 1; #P connect 96 0 97 0; #P connect 95 0 118 1; #P connect 95 0 96 0; #P connect 94 0 114 1; #P connect 94 0 95 0; #P fasten 93 0 104 0 1109 510 1062 510 1062 679 905 679; #P fasten 93 0 94 0 1109 500 1330 500 1330 457 1386 457; #P fasten 102 0 94 0 1425 464 1386 464; #P connect 97 0 121 1; #P fasten 48 0 50 0 401 461 598 461 598 567 608 567; #P fasten 48 0 51 0 401 460 598 460 598 609 608 609; #P fasten 48 0 42 0 401 459 599 459 599 483 609 483; #P fasten 48 0 46 0 401 459 598 459 598 522 609 522; #P connect 48 0 120 0; #P connect 48 0 121 0; #P connect 48 0 114 0; #P connect 48 0 118 0; #P connect 121 0 101 0; #P connect 118 0 99 0; #P connect 120 0 100 0; #P connect 114 0 98 0; #P fasten 98 0 88 1 1260 556 1241 556 1241 612 1151 612; #P fasten 99 0 81 1 1262 599 1244 599 1244 584 1151 584; #P fasten 100 0 87 1 1261 642 1246 642 1246 554 1151 554; #P fasten 101 0 86 1 1262 685 1249 685 1249 525 1151 525; #P connect 82 0 93 0; #P fasten 126 0 106 0 966 200 879 200; #P connect 126 0 132 0; #P connect 126 0 82 0; #P connect 130 0 89 0; #P connect 130 0 134 0; #P connect 81 0 88 0; #P connect 87 0 81 0; #P connect 86 0 87 0; #P fasten 92 0 86 0 746 372 1102 372; #P fasten 85 0 83 0 746 545 852 545 852 392 746 392; #P fasten 85 0 110 0 746 598 746 598; #P fasten 85 0 86 0 746 549 1021 549 1021 468 1102 468; #P fasten 117 0 86 0 991 753 1054 753 1054 484 1102 484; #P fasten 128 0 112 0 966 228 864 228; #P connect 128 0 133 0; #P connect 116 0 117 0; #P connect 115 0 116 0; #P connect 103 0 135 0; #P fasten 103 0 115 0 859 728 960 728 960 687 991 687; #P connect 148 0 62 0; #P connect 148 0 130 0; #P connect 147 0 60 0; #P connect 147 0 128 0; #P connect 146 0 58 0; #P connect 146 0 126 0; #P connect 106 0 107 0; #P fasten 106 0 108 0 879 377 921 377; #P fasten 106 0 109 0 879 377 957 377; #P connect 104 0 103 1; #P fasten 136 0 135 1 769 860 873 860; #P fasten 112 0 110 1 864 615 763 615; #P connect 112 0 113 0; #P connect 111 0 103 0; #P connect 110 0 103 0; #P fasten 89 0 105 1 982 336 869 336 869 496 828 496; #P fasten 89 0 92 1 982 334 828 334; #P connect 137 0 139 0; #P connect 135 0 139 0; #P fasten 113 0 111 1 864 650 793 650; #P fasten 109 0 90 1 957 468 788 468; #P fasten 108 0 91 1 921 444 788 444; #P fasten 88 0 111 0 1102 642 776 642; #P fasten 138 0 137 1 728 792 773 792; #P connect 145 0 69 0; #P connect 145 0 136 0; #P connect 140 0 136 0; #P fasten 162 0 92 0 92 302 746 302; #P fasten 162 0 137 0 92 302 8 302 8 792 750 792; #P connect 105 0 85 0; #P connect 90 0 105 0; #P connect 91 0 90 0; #P connect 84 0 91 0; #P connect 83 0 84 0; #P fasten 107 0 84 0 879 420 746 420; #P connect 92 0 83 0; #P connect 142 0 71 0; #P connect 142 0 138 0; #P connect 141 0 138 0; #P connect 56 0 30 0; #P fasten 149 0 146 0 650 51 15 51; #P fasten 149 0 147 0 650 61 47 61; #P fasten 149 0 148 0 650 61 69 61; #P fasten 149 0 145 0 650 61 96 61; #P fasten 149 0 142 0 650 56 127 56; #P connect 149 0 41 0; #P connect 149 0 160 0; #P connect 149 0 56 0; #P connect 158 1 159 0; #P fasten 139 0 159 0 806 860 642 860; #P connect 159 0 157 0; #P connect 24 0 50 1; #P connect 24 0 25 0; #P connect 23 0 46 1; #P connect 23 0 24 0; #P connect 22 0 42 1; #P connect 22 0 23 0; #P fasten 21 0 16 1 387 506 336 506 336 672 65 672; #P fasten 21 0 22 0 387 493 581 493 581 450 640 450; #P fasten 31 0 22 0 657 457 640 457; #P connect 25 0 51 1; #P connect 69 1 144 0; #P connect 72 0 69 0; #P connect 158 0 156 0; #P connect 160 0 158 0; #P fasten 67 0 158 0 70 863 554 863; #P connect 71 1 143 0; #P connect 73 0 71 0; #P connect 51 0 29 0; #P connect 46 0 27 0; #P connect 50 0 28 0; #P connect 42 0 26 0; #P fasten 26 0 15 1 514 549 492 549 492 605 429 605; #P fasten 27 0 8 1 516 592 495 592 495 577 429 577; #P fasten 28 0 14 1 515 635 497 635 497 547 429 547; #P fasten 29 0 13 1 516 678 500 678 500 518 429 518; #P connect 47 0 48 0; #P connect 41 0 47 0; #P connect 9 0 21 0; #P fasten 58 0 33 0 220 196 157 196; #P connect 58 0 64 0; #P connect 58 0 9 0; #P connect 8 0 15 0; #P connect 14 0 8 0; #P connect 13 0 14 0; #P fasten 20 0 13 0 24 368 380 368; #P fasten 12 0 10 0 24 541 130 541 130 388 24 388; #P fasten 12 0 37 0 24 594 24 594; #P fasten 12 0 13 0 24 545 299 545 299 464 380 464; #P fasten 45 0 13 0 269 749 332 749 332 480 380 480; #P connect 62 0 17 0; #P connect 62 0 66 0; #P fasten 60 0 39 0 220 224 142 224; #P connect 60 0 65 0; #P connect 44 0 45 0; #P connect 43 0 44 0; #P connect 16 0 68 0; #P fasten 16 0 43 0 24 743 238 743 238 686 269 686; #P connect 33 0 34 0; #P fasten 33 0 35 0 157 373 199 373; #P fasten 33 0 36 0 157 373 235 373; #P fasten 39 0 37 1 142 611 41 611; #P connect 39 0 40 0; #P fasten 69 0 68 1 588 792 131 792; #P connect 163 0 146 0; #P connect 163 0 147 0; #P connect 163 0 148 0; #P connect 163 0 145 0; #P connect 163 0 142 0; #P fasten 17 0 32 1 260 332 147 332 147 492 106 492; #P fasten 17 0 20 1 260 330 106 330; #P fasten 40 0 38 1 142 646 71 646; #P connect 70 0 67 0; #P connect 68 0 67 0; #P fasten 36 0 18 1 235 464 66 464; #P fasten 35 0 19 1 199 440 66 440; #P fasten 15 0 38 0 380 638 54 638; #P fasten 71 0 70 1 545 863 51 863; #P connect 161 0 20 0; #P fasten 161 0 70 0 25 302 8 302 8 789 28 789; #P connect 38 0 16 0; #P connect 37 0 16 0; #P connect 32 0 12 0; #P connect 18 0 32 0; #P connect 19 0 18 0; #P connect 11 0 19 0; #P fasten 34 0 11 0 157 416 24 416; #P connect 10 0 11 0; #P connect 20 0 10 0; #P window clipboard copycount 164; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 18:22:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 201F03BEF8; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=tC88N6MnczbV8gcVI0feJZXLJu/H0n7/AVutmZlVfxxgXlvwsP3BD0leUuI/VYUi2BRA2BYGNbSLaEDgA+sQ1O2IUlnMCZcAVgTxS19Pd77gmB3EiUF8krUeNLze5uMIG5DTPV4fuF8y54kozmnYZQ2O8yZ7Y8rb+vqU+R/1zU8=; X-YMail-OSG: OlT5deUVM1n8nidskLX5dyfGygb_BZCDYpgDJM_tV.WKiZwqW3UofTm0E.ax8D.No1y4rgUKR_TSLb2TMG8IKqaEy31Dn9YL61.EoBsZdKbswmBm5p0- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:22:02 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432" Message-ID: <11170.44432.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:22:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii wonderful, thank you so much for this fast reply! ----- Original Message ---- From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 10:01:15 AM Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor. And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular, I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works. But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W... Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?) also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ? BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help! Thanks So Much! Margaret Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
wonderful, thank you so much for this fast reply!

----- Original Message ----
From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 10:01:15 AM
Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns)

If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor.  And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret

Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.



Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 19:24:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88A193BEF1; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ONQ7K9IGWKhdSgrcrOgSIPSlHFide8MAOdl2hcdrVRA=; b=AL26EkIJTINowDb3o8SWXtoV376Yc7i/56oaUX9noyuhLo87+nfOymFhYpWDES2C3YRNiil4cRvUQ0DxXNN7srOCRfDD7nVol8YbaNZGeTCz2V0/SLhgT7e3klzU/0ciQj4UaXAb+PfeE/ASUou0tknm+hTv2DARZsORP28w67s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WaChhiMHaDIeDaHpYB/NUFBqnN3dhGlihBxApP4MZm91ljhjjlJR9dUI0KXoxDbY/GQyXmf3985SImhVkAysJAWOUazPwvzdlG1PffeUIBpmlK+JubS2TIrDX2RqBLIYPwjx2KAZByKTJMUTl1EvJdOg8/9hILHpf3jx6V4n7s4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:24:03 -0500 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RPM Files In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60803010801t722b6a79pe8426db7b1243b5f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60803010801t722b6a79pe8426db7b1243b5f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Even after reading the actual agreement (which, as you point out, Tim, still gives me all rights on the music and was a licensing agreement only), there was some verbiage from Mick about us not using the tracks selected for other purposes while it was being considered for the compilation. THAT gave me pause, in so far as I did not release any of the other material from the 2007 RPM effort. At this point, I feel not further need to keep any of the material "off the market" and will be preparing the materials to be submitted to Tunecore for regular release. Or I may just simply make it available for free off of my website. There was some solid stuff in that 2007 release and I am anxious to get it out to be heard and enjoyed. And yes, we were all being encouraged to purchase copies in support of the project ... and that was the last I heard of the project. A pity, in many ways. So it goes. In the meantime, let's share and enjoy what we have done! Dennis On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Tim I was also on one of those collections that Mick was putting together. > The last I heard was a pitch from him towards end of 07 encouraging all > participatants to purchase a copy in support of the project. That seemed > strangely a bit much. Anyhow sounds like this pursuit has hit a wall... > > Jim > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > > > Hi Dennis, > > > > Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks > > comps too; apparently what happened is that the > > contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for > > several months is no longer with the company, so he > > had to start the whole process over again... I'm > > guessing it's no longer going to happen. > > > > I don't see why it in any way held up your release, > > though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion > > license thing, and you still retain all the rights to > > your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick > > even started the comp project... > > > > -t- > > > > > > > > > > --- Dennis Moser wrote: > > > > > Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and > > > the files are all > > > covered by Creative Commons licenses: > > > > > > The 2008 RPM Challenge: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ > > > > > > The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from > > > release due to one > > > track being used on a compilation CD that was > > > supposed be distributed > > > by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): > > > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ > > > > > > > > > Hope you enjoy. > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 20:26:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C483BEF9; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 20:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HKfFb5qJeAEA:10 a=L3s9qoVMAAAA:8 a=1P9HBUEojRVTxrq1_PcA:9 a=I04izPeCwp4YwJRabfYA:7 a=qjl28FGf-n12Y_vY6v0wBjLWNeUA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pG9AB6WjZQwpfrmh3xUA:9 a=KSCQEoAvbBiZ0Ew9Y5IA:7 a=CDrHCgYodrs7a4ptl6WQnV2EiqkA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-610198179 Message-Id: <40351E65-E387-4CE0-B2BD-59064EBF57F6@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:26:21 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 20:26:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-610198179 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey Margaret, I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've blown up my gear, so I think I can tell you the worst that will happen... All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. - hardwire all your equipment into a power conditioner* or powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for the US too, because then you only ever need one power outlet). - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the converter box - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and buy a step-down transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers and a foot pedal so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i have a Euro one and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and put Euro adaptor on the end i guess, or vice-versa. - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step down transformer. http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html As for the worst that can happen.... in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I accidentally plugged my rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a transformer...) and everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my wall warts, but not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved wall warts. The only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my FCB1010 pedal, because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power cable, and has no wall wart, so I toasted its innards. I just replaced all my wall warts, although one (D-Tar Soltice Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty specific voltage/ milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an Electrix Repeater, you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor. All my gear is digital now, so I don't really need transformer anymore, just an adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable fuse, so when I go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a Euro uni-cable). notes: *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman thing, which is really just a glorified powerstrip *power strip = to save rack-space i have a powerstrip velcro'd into the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and i never have to unplug anything * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit the electrical sockets of the country you're in. it does not step-down the power!! Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!? Zoe On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has > experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a > European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it > works. > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W... > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do > I need some type of transformer?) > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ? > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would > really appreciate the help! > > Thanks So Much! > > Margaret > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --Apple-Mail-6-610198179 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Margaret,=A0

I've performed safely many = times in Europe AND I've blown up my gear, so I think I can tell you the = worst that will happen...

All you need is a = "step-down" transformer box.=A0
- hardwire all your equipment = into a power conditioner* or powerstrip* built into your rack (this is = great for the US too, because then you only ever need one power = outlet).=A0
- plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the = converter box
- determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? = and buy a step-down transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers = and a foot pedal so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i = have a Euro one and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and put = Euro adaptor on the end i guess, or vice-versa.

- =A0this is the box i = bring with me: VOD 100 step down transformer.=A0http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transforme= r.html

As = for the worst that can happen....

in a coffee-deprived = jet-lagged moment, I accidentally plugged my rack into 240 with just an = adaptor* (NOT a transformer...) and everything went "poof!". It wasn't = as bad as I thought it would be, yeah there was some blue smoke. I = destroyed all my wall warts, but not the gear. It was the first time = I've ever loved wall warts. The only piece of gear that was truly fried, = was my FCB1010 pedal, because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power = cable, and has no wall wart, so I toasted its innards.

I just replaced all my = wall warts, although one (D-Tar Soltice Preamp) was difficult because it = is a pretty specific voltage/milliamp combo. I had to use a different = Preamp.


You're right, digital = gear, like a computer, or an Electrix Repeater, you can use on either = voltage, with just an adaptor. All my gear is digital now, so I don't = really need transformer anymore, just an adaptor, (except the FCB1010, = which has a switchable fuse, so when I go over now I just turn the fuse = around and use a Euro uni-cable).

notes:

*power conditioner =3D = like a rack-mounted furman thing, which is really just a glorified = powerstrip
*power strip =3D to save rack-space i have a = powerstrip velcro'd into the back of my rack, everything plugs into = there and i never have to unplug anything
* adaptor =3D this = just changes the prong-size to fit the electrical sockets of the country = you're in. it does not step-down the power!!

Did I answer your = questions or just confuse you!?

Zoe


On Mar 1, 2008, = at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote:

Long = time no post!=A0 But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't = want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using = their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. = In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know = it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an = adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control = Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it = needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 = W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna = (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie = 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 = VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch = to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone = knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the = help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret

Never miss a thing.=A0Mak= e Yahoo your = homepage.

= --Apple-Mail-6-610198179-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 23:28:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64D063BEF3; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 422 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:28:53 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=sprynet.com; b=PP5eODx8qxYlfsQjKKiPVgdLdsumZZfX5Ad9nNFaqXAZSDpmc6gh4pYl+OcAyAjC; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Reply-To: From: "Brad's Mail" To: Subject: Re:Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:21:47 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: 5845cf3728b4ed5d1745d4e921052fe1faef81d128501e5d4f1e7cd1113b3b7364aa1af578a0b806cda864c4540ec7a0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.245.27.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Played in Holland in November 2007 with a laptop and many pedals. Got a radioshack transformer and a little power strip, put the laptop and gear plugs into the power strip and the transformer after the powerstrip (after calculating all my current needs together were within the ability of the transformer.) Worked well, fit in computer bag. Newbie Brad No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: 2/29/2008 6:32 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 01:21:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 941093BF04; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CA0112.9010109@aol.com> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:21:22 +0100 From: chrisrover User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe References: <20080301182205.956423BF00@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080301182205.956423BF00@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AOL-IP: 84.185.5.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:21:32 +0000 (UTC) On the Mackie mixer you might have to change the fuse (sometimes conveniently located next to the powerplug). If the unit is switchable, switched or "autoswitch" and has a three prong receptacle all you have to do is change the power chord to a Eurostyle (two round prongs and the ground is on the sides). These should be available in any hardware, electrical supply, department store in Vienna or maybe you can have someone get them for you beforehand. (When you go shopping look for a "Kaufhaus", the "Haushaltswarenabteilung" and ask for "Netzkabel" or "Gerätekabel" they shouldn't cost more than 3-5 Euro or less). Other adapters and voltage converters sometimes will omit the ground and are not recommended for musical instruments. The Mac as you said should be fine with the universal powersupply and the mac adapter. Never use any of those hairdryer type transformers - they will blow nothing else but your equipment. At http://www.international-electrical-supplies.com/austria-plug-adapters.html you can see the type of plug used to get juice in most of Europe (WA-9). Welcome and good luck in Europe Christian Rover www.christianrover.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 10:45:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81E33BEFB; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=gnV1Rljm2efW+ZB73c3kddhhId3WuSRVKHRfTSR9+MYS/0jq/w8DoY88CHU6iMfJUA3hn9pOKXrFlVUlm48khrjCckgesaVX95BGyJoETNtX1i37JWd9zstfb+MlZi6JgVAqkE0wONcHs67OOEcN4LS1hjOl62pPzXHFohqg7jc=; X-YMail-OSG: GbP_jcYVM1k.HHjYr6nDcxaoy82gLo0aGAAZgXRv.ZoUikNEyDlx4Pwr7FSKUBdoLDtH_OaHhZ5tVAVXOQP6pSDi7w-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:45:36 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: qualities of reverb To: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <010b01c87c6b$e488bad0$0901a8c0@kleiner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <268537.4969.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:45:37 +0000 (UTC) what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg proccessors,there were so many different models anybody has experience with those units or a website where i can read about them? Luis --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > yes, i also remember that reverb... > it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > > tilmann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Walker" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > > > > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his trusty > microverb: > > > > Which reminded me: > > > > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in it > that was just amazing. > > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > > > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with more > Alesis and finally > > Lexicons) > > but I have never heard an infinite reverb setting > that was so musical as > > that > > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks when > I was first doing lop > > > > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > unfortuanately and the Alesis > > gear > > just doesn't seem to last very long. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 11:09:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9805C3BF0C; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aqbH6bXR7vOSCJqUJ1XyWIy11/ttRPIGs1hEVka0X0Y8WISfJtvuptPbeZdgf2maVZUwtabN55P03pXnVuzv8HZKfl2i4Iu5hAw7eB/wP0qdAs6yl2NsLw9Cw29PmCu9PQRCfRw+7WjPBF3Fyq7gh81sS0AD2AtY7aF3TEHuck8=; X-YMail-OSG: U2XhTEMVM1lia0.QR0oEdU0CRxZcHhq1aicvqiSOe4wolpJzNlU6KanvYivbPI7KqZYF6S3VtdBsUBMajFFNJpmVKaskkSEHSjkhg5F5PUXIChgUPgI- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:09:46 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <40351E65-E387-4CE0-B2BD-59064EBF57F6@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <524517.89505.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:09:47 +0000 (UTC) I am still amazed that furman and all of this power conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks with a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me wrong! cheers Luis --- info at zoekeating wrote: > Hey Margaret, > > I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've > blown up my gear, > so I think I can tell you the worst that will > happen... > > All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. > - hardwire all your equipment into a power > conditioner* or > powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for > the US too, > because then you only ever need one power outlet). > - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the > converter box > - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and > buy a step-down > transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers > and a foot pedal > so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i > have a Euro one > and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and > put Euro adaptor > on the end i guess, or vice-versa. > > - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step > down transformer. > http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html > > As for the worst that can happen.... > > in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I > accidentally plugged my > rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a > transformer...) and > everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I > thought it would be, > yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my > wall warts, but > not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved > wall warts. The > only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my > FCB1010 pedal, > because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power > cable, and has no > wall wart, so I toasted its innards. > > I just replaced all my wall warts, although one > (D-Tar Soltice > Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty > specific voltage/ > milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. > > > You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an > Electrix Repeater, > you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor. > All my gear is > digital now, so I don't really need transformer > anymore, just an > adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable > fuse, so when I > go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a > Euro uni-cable). > > notes: > > *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman > thing, which is > really just a glorified powerstrip > *power strip = to save rack-space i have a > powerstrip velcro'd into > the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and > i never have to > unplug anything > * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit > the electrical > sockets of the country you're in. it does not > step-down the power!! > > Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!? > > Zoe > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > > > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig > in Vienna and I > > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if > anyone has > > experience using their hardware audio gear in > countries with > > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know > it works with a > > European power supply, all I have to do is put on > an adapter and it > > works. > > > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary > BCR2000 midi > > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but > it needs to also > > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 > Hz 15 W... > > > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get > to Vienna (or do > > I need some type of transformer?) > > > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a > switch in the back > > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am > assuming that all I > > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an > adapter tip on ? > > > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this > stuff, I would > > really appreciate the help! > > > > Thanks So Much! > > > > Margaret > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 11:38:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B5303BF08; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=j4ntXzK8MBPbj6KnK0L39nUHqKUN+dgK3ZhJkVbmMHeIq+xmGEY6zNwSW3DtuwtQVrbsZGIb2/3lO9lVjo2z+uSJG49TrbN6KyRnsELLioiI7gQrkpRxL/N3GnbNpCsGCEEM5Of+udianE3GiamyQSSIptmDvR+Q1T7CRi3ejqs=; X-YMail-OSG: MvEJG0MVM1mf.p67zOQ.cWQ4WLUlLczOS5OZp.gaPxdqPWCx6Si3tGHn_yrunSABu1WKf8fWY0xJ6BwQQCi2AAEp1OTM5m_52uhHpZOLF5Z26tNFyKdB77PJHsOgXw-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:38:25 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE71440744F84B4@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <238374.77272.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Hey Erdem, Ive been also doing some research about getting a multi fx units since i dont have one at the moment with wild efx,from reading its manual i have the feeling the line6 POD XT pro might be the one that assimilates the delays with analog wild tweaking at best,i dont know but the new units with only dedicated echo delays and reverbs seem to be a bit boring since they mostly lack any type of distortion/overdrive which is essential in creating wildness along with space echos.But hear it better from an expert ive never tried this unit.The dealy section on the boss GT-pro doesn´t seem very exciting either,but it would be great to read about a comparison on the delay section from both. The again you can always simply get this little boutique babies and go bananas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ_VXuSn-8&feature=related this is why i am also going boutique! Luis a small boutique would be the tonecore echopark from line 6 --- Jeff Larson wrote: > > > ________________________________ > From: Erdem Helvacioglu [mailto:erdemhel@tnn.net] > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:17 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB > > hey, > > i always need more effects :) just kidding.... > > i was just wondering if there are any interesting > hardware multieffects units on the market besides > the fireworx and eclipse. lately i am much more > interested in boutique analog pedals like zvex > ringtone, fuzz factory etc. i think i will try those > soon. > > as for micropog. i have recently bought in NY. i use > it for pitch shifting the delay lines. for that > effect, it is very good. but for chords it is pretty > useless unfortunately. it has a very organ like > sound which some of you may love or hate. > > thanks a lot and best regards. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion > Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz > Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA131 > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: scott hansen > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:59 PM > Subject: OT: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB > > late reply- > multi-effects-i will have to agree w/ someone who > said: you have an eventide eclipse and lexicon > mpx100 and tc fireworks--AND YOU NEED MORE EFFECTS? > > i thought the eventides where the king of good weird > effects? way out of my price range! my setup > currently: (guitar or keyboard-)zoom g2-digitech > rp150-digitech synthwah-boss dd20-(kustom 12 watt > tube amp or direct to fostex mr8)... > > my cheapo set up allows me to get normal sounds or > anything pretty wacky if i need it. the zoom g2 has > some interesting options w/ the ring mod, and then > it splits the wahs/ring/phaser/tremolo before amp, > and then gives you some other modulations options > (chorus-pitch, etc) after, and there are possibility > of having 3 different delays going (good if you are > only using one effect devise)...so i think its a > good sonic mangler, but i'm not sure if i'd say it > would beat an eventide unit, i mean it does only > cost 100$! > > as for REVERBS: i have minimal experience w/ a lot > of gear, i did like the reverbs on my digitech > dsp256xl-it had a real 80's quality to it, but i > liked that. had a lot of spacey sounds. i also liked > my lexicon mpx100-thought the reverbs were good & > all-UNTIL THE THING DIED ON ME!!!!. didn't like > that. from what i've read, it appears that the folks > who are masters of spacey reverb stuff (Torn, Fripp, > et al) all seem to use either the highend Lexicon > units or Eventide units. > > the funny thing about this thread is i have been > thinking about my reverb options-i like my > multi-effect pedal options, but haven't been loving > the reverb sounds in the units and have debated > getting another rack unit for reverbs. just don't > like the space they take up. and i've also been > missing the option of reversing samples that my old > dod d12 did so easy w/ the 6 sec samples. always > searching i guess.... > s--- > > ________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 11:47:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47D4F3BF08; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hhhwLdTAAAAA:8 a=6D-Hy7tQAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=ROR6KJdoW5c-xdyPY34A:9 a=B6Vhvr6s9a3C9QsO1aMA:7 a=0yvke8yx85psHRprke0_RpKrrsoA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=CLFctTkQT18A:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=vgYW2ltDteAA:10 a=TjkNQl1wA8wA:10 a=2uiCRmbCp6AA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.55.25.159 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <000c01c87c5b$4df81030$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <268537.4969.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:48:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <6gW8PC.A.idG.nPpyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Harmony Central is always good ; http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 I just googled it. http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz peace Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg > proccessors,there were so many different models > anybody has experience with those units or a website > where i can read about them? > Luis > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... >> >> tilmann >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick Walker" >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >> >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb >> >> >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his trusty >> microverb: >> > >> > Which reminded me: >> > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in it >> that was just amazing. >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) >> > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with more >> Alesis and finally >> > Lexicons) >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb setting >> that was so musical as >> > that >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks when >> I was first doing lop >> > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, >> unfortuanately and the Alesis >> > gear >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. >> >> > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: 3/1/2008 > 5:41 PM > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 13:04:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47E5F3BF0F; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:04:12 +0100 Message-Id: <825389397@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: music@cool.ms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Oberheim Echoplex with footpanel at ebay starts with 1 Euro Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Sender: newsic@web.de X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX19d53E1b4JJlY3qe/HTBEvronZHyv+wuD7baTnllLHF4zYoG Vn0VNqzYH7CrXJ62I2AbXrzlzzH2lyJMA0wZoba2cTZBZ00taw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I sell my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro incl. footpanel and Manual at ebay starting with 1 Euro: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330216423626 Hope it will find a good new home :-) (Softwareversion is LD3) best regards dh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 13:32:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B44303BF0F; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Terry Riley videos? Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:45:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach8Wu91UNV5+v2hSNKtuQhvw6bmAg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:32:51 +0000 (UTC) I'm looking for classic Terry Riley concert videos, anything solo where he plays keyboards. Ideally stuff from the seventies or sixties. There is nothing on Youtube except for tiny excerpts, but with such excerpts existing (e.g. in http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgSRi4pMmQ), this could mean that there are longer videos somewhere. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 14:38:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFC103BEEA; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7gyH6uBLjgFEZdtDz9uXK5lPoEnwKK/ElBNhAV/Jx/o=; b=O0g0329fx/Q9mifWEMNYEZO1lHT9akEFhgzfhoCLB/G9iD9AMU8MqkaMeZXzy9TcFyg8/CbZ7Vgn8fuXrb0YoKV76mAyB4Vrvl9h1U2XHgopGpxYIN98UDFKkgEuV0bbVtSnqFKqAOC29Na33ZxmJmeQFrq/tf1IItt83reJKmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=xYM3U8KN8ixnWYQg6HASNjjcgHtUnmjd5SuzFAopOiC1mn3Iyd12oOKcgUJ9VZ0I/nJZt15OX4tz0+nkn2qSkzlptfkHDY2lsWNrOjVQtzJYtmGAftpxVgYFEZrDXnndFVQ7ag8B95i1Gjn/0gz1jekH2wyqZYDCQiC/k5EDcfk= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:38:06 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) In-Reply-To: <524517.89505.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612" References: <40351E65-E387-4CE0-B2BD-59064EBF57F6@zoekeating.com> <524517.89505.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:38:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Furman makes a two space unit: http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AR-PRO It weighs 50lbs, so your rack immediately goes into the overweight baggage category when flying. TH On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:09 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > I am still amazed that furman and all of this power > conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks with > a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me wrong! > cheers > Luis > > > --- info at zoekeating wrote: > > > Hey Margaret, > > > > I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've > > blown up my gear, > > so I think I can tell you the worst that will > > happen... > > > > All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. > > - hardwire all your equipment into a power > > conditioner* or > > powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for > > the US too, > > because then you only ever need one power outlet). > > - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the > > converter box > > - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and > > buy a step-down > > transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers > > and a foot pedal > > so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i > > have a Euro one > > and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and > > put Euro adaptor > > on the end i guess, or vice-versa. > > > > - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step > > down transformer. > > > http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html > > > > As for the worst that can happen.... > > > > in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I > > accidentally plugged my > > rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a > > transformer...) and > > everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I > > thought it would be, > > yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my > > wall warts, but > > not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved > > wall warts. The > > only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my > > FCB1010 pedal, > > because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power > > cable, and has no > > wall wart, so I toasted its innards. > > > > I just replaced all my wall warts, although one > > (D-Tar Soltice > > Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty > > specific voltage/ > > milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. > > > > > > You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an > > Electrix Repeater, > > you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor. > > All my gear is > > digital now, so I don't really need transformer > > anymore, just an > > adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable > > fuse, so when I > > go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a > > Euro uni-cable). > > > > notes: > > > > *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman > > thing, which is > > really just a glorified powerstrip > > *power strip = to save rack-space i have a > > powerstrip velcro'd into > > the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and > > i never have to > > unplug anything > > * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit > > the electrical > > sockets of the country you're in. it does not > > step-down the power!! > > > > Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!? > > > > Zoe > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > > > > > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig > > in Vienna and I > > > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if > > anyone has > > > experience using their hardware audio gear in > > countries with > > > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > > > > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know > > it works with a > > > European power supply, all I have to do is put on > > an adapter and it > > > works. > > > > > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary > > BCR2000 midi > > > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but > > it needs to also > > > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 > > Hz 15 W... > > > > > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get > > to Vienna (or do > > > I need some type of transformer?) > > > > > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a > > switch in the back > > > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am > > assuming that all I > > > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an > > adapter tip on ? > > > > > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this > > stuff, I would > > > really appreciate the help! > > > > > > Thanks So Much! > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Furman makes a two space unit:

http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AR-PRO

It weighs 50lbs, so your rack immediately goes into the overweight baggage category when flying. 

TH

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:09 AM, L.A. Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am still amazed that furman and all of this power
conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks with
a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me wrong!
cheers
Luis


--- info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:

> Hey Margaret,
>
> I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've
> blown up my gear,
> so I think I can tell you the worst that will
> happen...
>
> All you need is a "step-down" transformer box.
> - hardwire all your equipment into a power
> conditioner* or
> powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for
> the US too,
> because then you only ever need one power outlet).
> - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the
> converter box
> - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and
> buy a step-down
> transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers
> and a foot pedal
> so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i
> have a Euro one
> and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and
> put Euro adaptor
> on the end i guess, or vice-versa.
>
> -  this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step
> down transformer.
>
http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html
>
> As for the worst that can happen....
>
> in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I
> accidentally plugged my
> rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a
> transformer...) and
> everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I
> thought it would be,
> yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my
> wall warts, but
> not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved
> wall warts. The
> only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my
> FCB1010 pedal,
> because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power
> cable, and has no
> wall wart, so I toasted its innards.
>
> I just replaced all my wall warts, although one
> (D-Tar Soltice
> Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty
> specific voltage/
> milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp.
>
>
> You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an
> Electrix Repeater,
> you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor.
> All my gear is
> digital now, so I don't really need transformer
> anymore, just an
> adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable
> fuse, so when I
> go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a
> Euro uni-cable).
>
> notes:
>
> *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman
> thing, which is
> really just a glorified powerstrip
> *power strip = to save rack-space i have a
> powerstrip velcro'd into
> the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and
> i never have to
> unplug anything
> * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit
> the electrical
> sockets of the country you're in. it does not
> step-down the power!!
>
> Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!?
>
> Zoe
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote:
>
> > Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig
> in Vienna and I
> > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if
> anyone has
> > experience using their hardware audio gear in
> countries with
> > different voltage circuits. In particular,
> >
> > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know
> it works with a
> > European power supply, all I have to do is put on
> an adapter and it
> > works.
> >
> > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary
> BCR2000 midi
> > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but
> it needs to also
> > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60
> Hz 15 W...
> >
> > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get
> to Vienna (or do
> > I need some type of transformer?)
> >
> > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a
> switch in the back
> > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am
> assuming that all I
> > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an
> adapter tip on ?
> >
> > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this
> stuff, I would
> > really appreciate the help!
> >
> > Thanks So Much!
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
>


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------=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 15:11:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99BBE3BEDB; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=YcNyOhO1WyyMe0zfUN0m6UiGYc22UaQluqOHPI/eguI=; b=rVHKo37yrM7BlEeMm/tr/0U7a4KpbTsfkoE63kXkmnsfqZdAkTTeuJY61+mktCTigxCOc7wxb9UZM7gS7D41AsTZKEsnfGiqXUw3VaMKH8MFYJ2bL3v4kyehpFSQ1okYVnM9UcXytHIqvksiJ9pkgFaMBcrxYhJ/ln0Os6c0PwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HqF3ewA5k7d09u6IR1DbMzcVMy56Fh4kZ66j5d2sJVRTuQWGqe4wKV0Ah39a1AYU0cdYJr8talWkHWUgnGNmY/ljO76WWz99Ded/lY1wmn4vjQALbX3xp7GSeoX/ejb+gmvOIIuQskpnI9ySb+rUqVJ+hUGRkV+n9E9C3GEqb/A= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:11:35 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <32JDXD.A.NHD.oOsyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I have two awesome Bill Lawrence active guitar pickups that I bought in -88, and if course I can't find the paper manual to check out how I shall connect them. I think they are humbuckers in a technical sense but they fit into strat type single coil pickup holes. Anyway, the difficult point is that these things need two 9 v batteries in order to function and I'm just wondering if anyone knows right off the top of your head where the plus vs minus pole of the pickups respective both batteries should go? The toggle switch just makes too much noise so I'm thinking about throwing it away and hard-solder the pickups into the parallel position. A minute ago I was getting busy with this but found that at least one of the batteries always gets almost as warm as my soldering iron... -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:07:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A60AD3BED2; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 594 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:07:57 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:56:03 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: <20080229074050.r65hwzt54444ks4w@webmail.mhorse.com> Message-ID: References: <20080229074050.r65hwzt54444ks4w@webmail.mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:07:58 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, highhorse@mhorse.com wrote: > I also did a recording for RPM I'll be sharing soon, and I know Jim Goodin is > working on one. Anybody else crank out an album? http://www.subscapeannex.com/rpmchallenge.html Looping on all five tracks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:33:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B59AE3BED3; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:33:50 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EtOH3a507Jo9VgdwvqaT7Gl094In0aiO53NvfuX0ypiBkArO4U+gZ7rmHCGzQeRI/j804f5xFpQXNnb65ZJCpQn5RDrlgPsnc4RN+FsSEx6LNkPbomIUGoFKa735/1VfTNqmbCDATOmlfsfieWMlB4jsHFvJSU0cxzul9HCG24E=; X-YMail-OSG: 1bmvSSkVM1m_IJVRV0mcIOraVbzV.Lpg2P0E3gpq8eBHfew6siq1QmrulRO4ggghEA-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: stevenguerrero Subject: Re: [LOOP] Re: My RPM record To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <423115.17561.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) I completed one as well. Unfortunatly I didn't get it in the mail on time. A busy work week and a gig the night before... yadda yadda. I do have one of the unmastered tracks on myspace though. --- burnett@pobox.com wrote: > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, highhorse@mhorse.com wrote: > > > I also did a recording for RPM I'll be sharing > soon, and I know Jim Goodin is > > working on one. Anybody else crank out an album? > > http://www.subscapeannex.com/rpmchallenge.html > > Looping on all five tracks. > > www.myspace.com/mesqua www.reverbnation.com/stevenguerrero ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:36:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3FB63BED5; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=BEf3wu70s/19K1ZeQh8lugoUEylNhNruK9IViFtqkOTmhG9n/cnIYIk2bTVCvEkcgzSvyuatCr3IyedfvdXvMyKlXcUU0l0EXvVpHRuCWJipHk4U5L3H2hK1n2djA8DJLzm8XVW8bU7KWERmnwcoOKFwKiO7M+c2MwKByE/RaGw=; X-YMail-OSG: fd._FeAVM1ky3Ymltl3EtHKWlmNZ7tFsm80_P3pdmViUDdcJDXpzLy.Cz0dNE_tDXyraYaC7IxLCYvGO8mD0WjlvZ78v1O5_b_.zrgOSfLtu8H0_gt.ttll0N_skgQ-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: reverbs To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <760523.62068.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, The roland SRV-2000 goes out to 99 seconds and also has infinite, with a foot switch jack. Very velvety, smooyh, warm unit. I've got 4 and have used them for 20 years. They have a"second page" you access on start-up that let's you adjust all sorts of things to affect wall surfaces, etc. Very advanced for a mid 80s unit. Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:46:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C5A63BED6; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1oDdgrt6cl7MPZnMOlZsJ/Ff45WAIfm+IZij5CDFoNnnlQboXDe+jKGQXt6Z8HRTIQPcXTelGeYYO3bAYlG95Zef9pdkggVn0nYuiiMLDKZqexCm/H1dsgV7/NHtjj0pZjLqIhS3NAZFG+Fm48wmDyfmi4kBtsL97yozYn0V2OA=; X-YMail-OSG: wOXM1nUVM1monMx0JJHQeXWjUTz_b4yuxhW0CBLDs._zbNuV83dF87tKPV4i3rgZLj8ZdbaKY6r4NF5hKrFCNgXDyLAYYCv19dZZAcxhgpCkG6jkwyk- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:46:21 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: reverbs To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <372466.87158.qm@web32701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9i-u5.A.k7H.-XvyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, When checking out Roland stuff, don't forget the DEP-5 or 3 multi effects. same reverb as the SRV-2000 I beleive. The 5 has more features of course, but not the 2nd page of the SRV. Still they have that velvety smooth warmth. They came out just after the original Alesis XT which has a nice aggressive sizzle to it, if that's what your after. Very good prices on E-bay. I don't have any experience with the 3000 or 3030 but might have to buy one to see if it's an improvement or not. Coming out at the same time as the Yamaha reverbs, it kind of got lost in the shuffle. Whenever I mix a band using a sound company with Yamaha verbs, any setting I use seems to come out with spring reverb overtones to it. But there sure were a lot of PA companies that had them, they were everywhere. Still no comparison to the Roland 2000 IMHO. Rig Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 19:28:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 972003BEDC; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:24:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:28:04 +0000 (UTC) I think the battery will connect to a circuit board, not directly to the pickup wires. Unless there's an actual circuit in the pickup that amplifies. toby On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I have two awesome Bill Lawrence active guitar pickups that I bought > in -88, and if course I can't find the paper manual to check out how I > shall connect them. I think they are humbuckers in a technical sense > but they fit into strat type single coil pickup holes. Anyway, the > difficult point is that these things need two 9 v batteries in order > to function and I'm just wondering if anyone knows right off the top > of your head where the plus vs minus pole of the pickups respective > both batteries should go? The toggle switch just makes too much noise > so I'm thinking about throwing it away and hard-solder the pickups > into the parallel position. A minute ago I was getting busy with this > but found that at least one of the batteries always gets almost as > warm as my soldering iron... > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 21:09:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83B883BED3; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VqFbV9E4tcXVP/DFyg6Lv4VxSeM7f2jmqJvCzdejBQU=; b=hJBnHVzt0671mASZRxYEnAnwo+XnZfyrqCxQPY7HHvHDcoPunJOwkSiRJRDrYAxmbNq2/ICB+jzA371rn/YpPJYCnAcAu3FoBLf1FGgA9KVZmIXxo1j/HH4exGwjBtJoxDfyrpyUKhEhVOjpyxmcJ5olRFT443eoOH/vLYEpge0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VGL0LgoZxlT/A0y+vATkjoN+H3P7BTOueI8T+V7sAHzNZg3IBnEiJJuerIg7VEB3KJlXuA8ocHXerCKExv/mAIZSco9apKyqw/w+vYrwFbj0N4P+0YVFKfHQCLm98NK82E/EREb1oo4MiVBxFpihd2HCLCW1rWX7yygNwEP8Olk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:09:40 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries In-Reply-To: <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:09:41 +0000 (UTC) These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound. They have a very good sound BTW. I played with them yesterday, but then I disconnected the guitar's electronics because I'm such a disaster with the soldering gear so the switch (or whatever it was) made crackling noises that destroyed the "glass distinct" string attack of those pickups. per On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Toby Graves wrote: > I think the battery will connect to a circuit board, not directly to > the pickup wires. Unless there's an actual circuit in the pickup > that amplifies. > > > toby > > > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have two awesome Bill Lawrence active guitar pickups that I bought > > in -88, and if course I can't find the paper manual to check out how I > > shall connect them. I think they are humbuckers in a technical sense > > but they fit into strat type single coil pickup holes. Anyway, the > > difficult point is that these things need two 9 v batteries in order > > to function and I'm just wondering if anyone knows right off the top > > of your head where the plus vs minus pole of the pickups respective > > both batteries should go? The toggle switch just makes too much noise > > so I'm thinking about throwing it away and hard-solder the pickups > > into the parallel position. A minute ago I was getting busy with this > > but found that at least one of the batteries always gets almost as > > warm as my soldering iron... > > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 21:15:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2D6D3BEE0; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aC6E/gouKBKBUUa6Y4e1Q8adlwLdQdqpkJZ8qQZp2Rk=; b=O9GNJLUmU7KCeQPnImOwPVkJ/O6wlm0NrfRiTe6WhPcXFwwsjIVShjcYFVme0xgcwmbQlc1x7XV2RjqvheluEczE34WGLcP5VgoAcAXrG0gV0BsAVHoAQDolJNRlBpP7F04Gt1IOcGxp4JTBnFegT4H7mRVl/mNxX7Mekt56278= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KJCoqrZdDrlhJslGgLQPBnvgt6n9dXmapal/mQ+U3lrhoIJeRwM3Mzp7342VD4eXzGA69Q+vUbewdNAsJwgDUuw6l/obGibJTMkjz8LQ4Q9Msnt6HqqfElDxOD08OiTPJHxyuZ2ZQwodkYtxSmCHT7bNhuoQZq7pazwkneNd66M= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:15:26 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483" References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:15:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Why not just email BL tomorrow? They're still in business. On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge > model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit > board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone > happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I > will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while > connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound. > > > ------=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Why not just email BL tomorrow?  They're still in business.

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge
model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit
board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone
happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I
will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while
connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound.



------=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 21:24:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9153D3BED9; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 17716465/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/nildram-customers/62.3.238.4 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@12testing.net X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAISpykc+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIqnc X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:24:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: chain tape latest Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <47CB1AF2.13864.2A42C38@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:24:08 +0000 (UTC) My latest CT projects birds/birds&men are available for download or review... http://ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 22:05:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 313BC3BEDD; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=sGzP9yAo9lIswQLTBAkJ5fKWxAL/xeehGHsn5D64an0=; b=Z8WmEgMEbJ0KPJ3YJavClEun2PqEZjV6zBzdLqrpr55sytVqMcZUy5+QvhrEFn0dOIP/0R0If7+ont1FjuU0DgAlDyye27N2MLN6qWmc0co/enOlVrJ8zNJNluF+CUEjBK8aE5QmSQEKwLCuJX/OKXTmakz42s9I9NPbNwD86iQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SGOuCCnQpTwNkKjriRpQ8lw0a9Wk4Il0b7siCo/nLJR5XuINrI8m6pZTPZPkl3FUJFdRrq/jnTkO20/8zZS3H4EWaxXM+6paG7/+0vVBhN23aJN6MstBhxHItqOCmjVDqYEfvxFWLnFOlu1fvrsylIQgt920YQVe+OXeCwSryMU= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:05:31 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:05:33 +0000 (UTC) > Why not just email BL tomorrow? They're still in business. I agree, Bill is a really nice guy. He used to have his shop just down the street from where I worked. I got to chat with him once. A bit hard of hearing these days. :) http://www.billlawrence.com/ becky@billlawrence.com On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Why not just email BL tomorrow? They're still in business. > > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge > > model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit > > board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone > > happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I > > will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while > > connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound. > > > > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From azizs_yusuf1@walla.com Sun Mar 2 22:54:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 13425 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:54:46 UTC Received: from omail109.walla.co.il (omail109.walla.co.il [192.118.71.109]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9333BED2 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omail109.walla.co.il (omail109.walla.co.il [127.0.0.1]) by omail109.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m22JAQbB030586; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:10:26 +0200 Received: (from informix@localhost) by omail109.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.1/Submit) id m22JAPYk030516; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:10:25 +0200 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:10:25 +0200 Received: from ([196.28.250.186]) by 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looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CBB0EC.7020504@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:03:56 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: My RPM record, tooooo References: <423115.17561.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <423115.17561.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:04:08 +0000 (UTC) It's awesome how many took part in the RPM thing - Neil, Jim, Doug, Dennis, Tim, Steve, Steven...is that everyone? Bueller? I finally have my own record on the Net in a convenient place, dig it here (the whole thing can be downloaded in a zip). http://www.swanwelder.com/projects/rentintwain.htm It's called "Rentintwain", my first solo looping recording. Acoustic guitar, and all loops done live with cassettes, a Tascam four-track with homemade loop tapes and a microcassette Panasonic dictating machine, my standard setup for quite some time now. I started with a pretty firm concept (entrapment, and trepanation as a metaphor), then improvised a bunch of stuff and whittled it down. In the end, it turned out to be a much noisier and less tonal project when compared to the looping I've done with Chinapainting...a bit hard on the ears, sometimes, but I'm very happy with it. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 14:40:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A17D73BED3; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=jlunBfnTkauZEG3S5VQVXvqi91t8BbMHTebSkh3Nr9o=; b=XpK0icnDNu/V6IqGNRXNQZuFI+mayUH8qGrLVFPItMQI7UzetLBzeybpARJkqNRyT70RGjbqKJ6ZIj8cC+ifMpkJAgBctMr2bseKExb0hDcEr2s1iiJDVygDF//FXxFWZdBv/yB6FivbfVIDBrr942eyzMRay6BbG3LjG3sFQPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ChG7VU/2s8Cj4D0xwwtLaRT9geh25nwGYyhMpf75MMMvUSIsCHyy+CwSh7UnkfVT4eIePXty0u4+j43vFjsHJwOgd0C4slt4Htxglrwf57OZWaDPgTrFb5yRqQE+RWgsKs4o9CBwUAI6pAvzGbcXJJS4UgUNfNJbvbj9Gtb5fHE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:40:45 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: loopers-delight Subject: Adrian loops MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:40:46 +0000 (UTC) http://line6.com/spiderjam/movies.html -- -==-=-=- Tony From clark0becca@aol.com Mon Mar 3 17:07:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 737 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:07:53 UTC Received: from fyisvr1.freshyouth.org (67.111.174.226.ptr.us.xo.net [67.111.174.226]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2AA3BEC2; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([217.118.0.121]) by fyisvr1.freshyouth.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:52:24 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Rebecca Clarkson" Subject: Hope and Trust Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17.55.23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2008 16:52:24.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4BD58F0:01C87D4E] To: undisclosed-recipients:; I am 28 Female,Rebecca Clarkson (5'6) from Ohio, United States of America. I lived with my Ex-Boyfriend before I had a problem as a result of his misbehavior. I've been having a problem with my Dad who i live with but right now due to our differences, i have left the United States for africa my Mom is from United Kingdom but she`s late now. MY Dad works with Oil Contractors in UK and Italy include some parts of the Asian and American. I work with my father as his personal auditor and we move around for his contracts whereever he is awarded. My first boy friend, Victor Glashow, absconded with my dad's money which was kept with me after a completion of a contract in EAST london,UK. When my boy friend got absconded with the undisclosed sum of USdollars, this brought the first brokeup between me and my dad, cos he thought, we have the deal together, but not knowing that I'm an innocent about this. So my dad has been harsh and tough against me about this. Then when I perceived all his behaviors towards me and the bad acts of his newly gotten wife, i decided to leave ohio to meet a friend in London in Uk whom have meet during our stay there for a contract with N.P.C. I left because my dad have been treating me bad and stopped me from working with him even having any access to his assets, and i felt no where to go than to leave the states to search for an investment here. Now, for you to know im not in the states now, i left my personal room in my dad's house. My hope of getting an investment here with the money is to no avail or success. Now, I'm in need of your help, have gotten the enuogh money to run myself when I get to USA, i want to come over to your end and stay with you for main time, I don't want to live here anymore, you know I'm a foreigner here and it is absolutely danger for me here, so that is why i need your gesture assistance. How i want you to help me? I have some money, which I've gotten from an over invoiced Contract renumeration executed by my dad with some contractors, so I have taken up the money from the contractors, but I'm hiding up from the girl I stayed with here in barking, because i might got setup if they know i have such huge amount of money (5,500,000.00$), so for me to be more safe and secure, I put this money in a box and got it locked up with a security code known to me only, and I deposited the box with some of my travelling luggages with a Security and Insurance Company who render private diplomatic delivery service and i told them that the two boxes are my travelling luggage, which I want to send forth to U.S.A because i'm returning home, then i paid them up their custody and security fee. So, I want the box sent to you while i catch up with you as soon as it is been delivered to you while I pay you up your Rent charge and a reasonable amount for compensation, only 30% of the money in the box to you. Every arrangement for the delivery is kinda perfect, I have obtained customs papers for private freight and there are seals on the box showing that it is a private delivery and check performed, it is free from customs checks, it will be delivered at your door step by the diplomats of the security company, you do not need to burn out to receive it. And the boxes have security codes lock known to me only, only me can open the boxes, except if I tell anyone the Code, so the Boxes cannot be opened on the Way of delivery to you. I couldn't stay with the boxes in the lodge because it is not safe for me to do so, then I have to put it in a Security and Insurance Company for safety. Therefore, I want you to contact me as soon as possible, so that you can make the Clearance from the Security Company as the Recipient of my Boxes. And once the box gets, I will be there with you, then we can open the box together or i will tell you the code to open it, so that you can arrange everything properly before my arrival. Like I said, I will fulfil my 30% promise of the money to you for your assistance and we can meet for a better living. And I hope you are for real about Helping ..... I will appreciate your trust towards this and hoping to hear from you and to meet you inperson. Please, kindly make your response to my email which you know so that i can read your message easily and we can proceed from there. Thanks Rebecca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 17:27:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ACE03BECF; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_" X-Originating-IP: [76.105.181.144] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:26:12 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2008 17:26:13.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADF8F230:01C87D53] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting! I am not relaxed and focused at this exact moment however, I r= ecall bringing this up w/ the abbot at the zen center where I practice--How= zazen and Buddhist mindfulness felt like the presence one feels when you t= ravel to those wonderfully deep places of improvisation and creation.=20 Peace from Portland, J.D.Devros deafrose58 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100 From: perboysen@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers I found this rather interesting:=20 Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communica= tion Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are engaged in = the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as improvisation, a larg= e region of the brain involved in monitoring one's performance is shut down= , while a small region involved in organizing self-initiated thoughts and b= ehaviors is highly activated. Link to read more: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jaz= z-factor-think-different/=20 I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. P= articularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at t= he same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray = along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation.= =20 --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.=A0You IM, we g= ive. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=3Dtext_hotmail_join= --_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting! I am not relaxed and focused at this exact moment however, I r= ecall bringing this up w/ the abbot at the zen center where I practice--How= zazen and Buddhist mindfulness felt like the presence one feels when you t= ravel to those wonderfully deep places of improvisation and creation.
P= eace from Portland,
J.D.Devros
deafrose58

Date= : Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100
From: perboysen@gmail.com
To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain= activities of improvisers

I found this rather interesting: 
Scien= tists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication = Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are engaged in the h= ighly creative and spontaneous activity known as improvisation, a large reg= ion of the brain involved in monitoring one's performance is shut down, whi= le a small region involved in organizing self-initiated thoughts and behavi= ors is highly activated.

Link to read more= : 
http://createdigital= music.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ 

I've always also = filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. Particularly disci= plines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at the same time - wi= thout falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray along association= al thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation. 

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (intern= ational)


Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant = messaging.=A0You IM, we give. Learn more. = --_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 19:49:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A7663BECF; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4086 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:49:57 UTC Message-ID: <29166.167.83.10.20.1204569702.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:41:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Cool! Thanks Per! I wonder if task that require pinpoint precision movement "on the fly", such as fencing, or luging, etc. where one gets into a zone, light up the same areas as improvising in music...interesting indeed... Plish > > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100 > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers > > I found this rather interesting: > > > Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other > Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are > engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as > improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's > performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing > self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > Link to read more: > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ > I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. > Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at > the same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander > astray along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention > meditation. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we > give. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From b_walter22@yahoo.fr Mon Mar 3 20:46:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2411 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:46:58 UTC Received: from hermes.techistry.com (hermes.techistry.com [204.213.247.48]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B857C3BEC1 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.techistry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01F6B23BC9; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from wbs-41-208-238-234.wbs.co.za (wbs-41-208-238-234.wbs.co.za [41.208.238.234]) by webmail.techistry.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:05:59 -0500 Message-ID: <20080303150559.t2oh0dpz5cttcsos@webmail.techistry.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:05:59 -0500 From: "Mr. Walter Brown" Reply-To: b.walter22@yahoo.fr To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: HSBC BANK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.1) Good day, I am Walter Brown, staff of International Private Banking at HSBC Bank. I a= m contacting you concerning a deceased customer and an investment he placed u= nder our banks management few years ago. I would respectfully request that you k= eep the contents of this mail confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a result of this mail. I contacted you independently of our investigation and no one is informed o= f this communication. I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you. In 2001, the subject matter came to ou= r bank to engage in business discussions with our private banking division. H= e informed us that he had a financial portfolio of Forty Eight Million Three Hundred And Fifty Thousand United States Dollars ($48,350,000.00 USD) ,whi= ch he wished to have us turn over(invest) on his behalf. I was the officer assigned to his case, I was made numerous suggestions in line with my dutie= s as the de-facto chief operations officer of the private banking sector, especi= ally given the volume of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numero= us occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to consid= er various growth funds with prime ratings. The favored route in my advise to customers is to start by assessing data on 6000 traditional stocks and bond managers and 2000 managers of alternative investments. Based on my advice, = We spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for= our first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this p= oint at over ten million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments. In mid 2002, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to mak= e an urgent investment requiring cash payments in here in the United Kingdom. He directed that I liquidate the funds and deposit it with a security firm her= e in London. I informed him that HSBC would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would h= ave to make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He complained about the charges but later came around when I expla= ined to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash movement acro= ss boarders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I conta= cted my affiliate in here in London and made the funds available to the security firm. I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited at the London based security consultancy firm, Corporate Securities Co. Corporate Securities Co= is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with Instructions, the money was deposited with Corporate Securities Co. The deceased told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. Th= is was the last communication we had, this transpired around 25th June 2002. I= n June last year, we got a call from Corporate Securities Co informing us tha= t the activity of that particular portfolio. This was an astounding position = as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit at Corporate Securitie= s Co, and I could not understand why the deceased had not come forward to cla= im his deposit. I made futile efforts to locate the deceased. I immediately pa= ssed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of HSBC. Four days later, information started to trickle in, apparently our client w= as dead. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart atta= ck in Cannes, South of France. We were soon enough able to identify the body and cause of death was confir= med. The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next= of kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his esta= te. If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachment from conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In = the field of private banking opening an account with us means no one will know = of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use number= s and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice t= o depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do t= hey nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually = in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; the deceased died without= a testament .In line with our internal processes for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our own Investigations in good faith to determin= e who should have right to claim the estate. This investigation has for the p= ast months been unfruitful. We have scanned every continent and used our privat= e investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is = this investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as a possible relative of the deceased. My official capacity dictates that I am = the only party to supervise the investigation and the only party to receive the results of the investigation. What this means, you being the last batch of names we have considered, is that our dear late fellow died with no known o= r identifiable family member. This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the prevailing situation is in relation to the deposit and = the late beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice, Corporate Securities Co will by the end of this fina= ncial year broadcast a request for statements of claim to HSBC, failing to receiv= e viable claims they will most probably revert the deposit back to HSBC. This will result in the money entering the HSBC accounting system and the portfo= lio will be out of my hands and out of the private banking division. This will = not happen if I have my way. What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethic= al practice but I want you to understand something. It is only an outsider to = the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for th= ose who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose. I al= one have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless= I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for a= s far as HSBC is concerned, the transaction with our late customer concluded = when I sent the funds to corporate securities, all outstanding interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process. Corporate Securities Co has no single idea of what the history or nature of the depos= it. They are simply awaiting; instructions to release the deposit to any party = that comes forward. This is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track this mans family; they have investigated for months a= nd have found no family. The investigation has come to an end. My proposal; yo= u share similar details to the late fellow; I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct Corporate Securities Co to release the deposit to you = as the closest surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared = to share the money with you in half. That is: I will simply nominate you as th= e next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share the proceeds 50/50.I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in claiming the deposit. I assure you that I could have the deposit released to you within = a few days. I will simply inform the bank of the final closing of the file relating to the deceased I will then officially communicate with Corporate Securities Co and instruct them to release the deposit to you. With these t= wo things: all is done. The alternative would be for us to have Corporate Securities Co direct the funds to another bank with you as account holder. = This way there will be no need for you to think of receiving the money from Corporate Securities Co. We can fine-tune this based on our interactions. I= am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no inter= est in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you do not be vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. Do not destroy my career because y= ou do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this but people like myself who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a crim= inal and what I do, I do not find against good conscience, this may be hard for = you to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this mo= ve. Such opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I cannot let thi= s chance pass me by, for once I find myself in total control of my destiny. T= hese chances wont pass me by. I ask that you do not destroy my chance, if you wi= ll not work with me let me know and let me move on with my life but do not des= troy me. I am a family man and this is an opportunity to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward for this project and it is a task well wor= th undertaking. I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is fr= om you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank. I am the only one who kn= ows of this situation, good fortune has blessed you with a name that has plante= d you into the center of relevance in my life. Let share the blessing. If you find yourself able to work with me, contact me through this same email acco= unt. If you give me positive signals, I will initiate this process towards a conclusion. I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do no= t want you contacting me through my official phone lines nor do I wouldn=92t = you contacting me through my official email account. Contact me only through th= e numbers I will provide for you and also through this email address. I do no= t want any direct link between you and me. My official lines are not secure l= ines as they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in = line with our Total Quality Management Policy. Please observe this instruction religiously. Please, again, note I am a fam= ily man, I have a wife and children. I send you this mail not without a measure= of fear as to what the consequences, but I know within me that nothing venture= d is nothing gained and that success and riches never come easy or on a platter = of gold. This is the one truth I have learnt from my private banking clients. = Do not betray my confidence. If we can be of one accord, we should plan a meeting, soon. I await your response. Walter Brown. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 21:48:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 365B63BECF; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nf1kU6zb8pVOALMFj8Da3OCvtnsC9wZEdBIWWh6LPSr+HZMBLjMvjRqHvQtKCTqw3CuY4E7ZaoTBgDDQBdyrCawFpmsM0q86UfBowoDDLdWVF2a+zLjrVbF2I7JX2JQsHQT8JnKTRy+caFVeJBYduRVGF4mYV02u//T1eMT6PZU=; X-YMail-OSG: .czQ5LEVM1msu_.KgIFMeW3rbhsXA8hpJNrYXUWaBqFDpsRbdmk0wvwpDVBwq8lX8OOtRTL6PfkCiOU38IoTEYqF4lJl94KJZpCNpzVnV106MMKbuUU- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:48:50 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <873938.51283.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Thanx Travis but you know i am a real wimp, this is more for real men like this one http://pairwise.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/arnold-schwarzenegger-big.jpg Luis wrote: > Furman makes a two space unit: > > http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AR-PRO > > It weighs 50lbs, so your rack immediately goes into > the overweight baggage > category when flying. > > TH > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:09 AM, L.A. Angulo > wrote: > > > I am still amazed that furman and all of this > power > > conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks > with > > a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me > wrong! > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > --- info at zoekeating > wrote: > > > > > Hey Margaret, > > > > > > I've performed safely many times in Europe AND > I've > > > blown up my gear, > > > so I think I can tell you the worst that will > > > happen... > > > > > > All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. > > > - hardwire all your equipment into a power > > > conditioner* or > > > powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great > for > > > the US too, > > > because then you only ever need one power > outlet). > > > - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into > the > > > converter box > > > - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? > and > > > buy a step-down > > > transformer that fits your needs. i just run > loopers > > > and a foot pedal > > > so i use the 100W one, which is more than > plenty. i > > > have a Euro one > > > and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one > and > > > put Euro adaptor > > > on the end i guess, or vice-versa. > > > > > > - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step > > > down transformer. > > > > > > http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html > > > > > > As for the worst that can happen.... > > > > > > in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I > > > accidentally plugged my > > > rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a > > > transformer...) and > > > everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I > > > thought it would be, > > > yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all > my > > > wall warts, but > > > not the gear. It was the first time I've ever > loved > > > wall warts. The > > > only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my > > > FCB1010 pedal, > > > because it is the only thing that uses a > uni-power > > > cable, and has no > > > wall wart, so I toasted its innards. > > > > > > I just replaced all my wall warts, although one > > > (D-Tar Soltice > > > Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty > > > specific voltage/ > > > milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. > > > > > > > > > You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or > an > > > Electrix Repeater, > > > you can use on either voltage, with just an > adaptor. > > > All my gear is > > > digital now, so I don't really need transformer > > > anymore, just an > > > adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a > switchable > > > fuse, so when I > > > go over now I just turn the fuse around and use > a > > > Euro uni-cable). > > > > > > notes: > > > > > > *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman > > > thing, which is > > > really just a glorified powerstrip > > > *power strip = to save rack-space i have a > > > powerstrip velcro'd into > > > the back of my rack, everything plugs into there > and > > > i never have to > > > unplug anything > > > * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to > fit > > > the electrical > > > sockets of the country you're in. it does not > > > step-down the power!! > > > > > > Did I answer your questions or just confuse > you!? > > > > > > Zoe > > > > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble > wrote: > > > > > > > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a > gig > > > in Vienna and I > > > > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering > if > > > anyone has > > > > experience using their hardware audio gear in > > > countries with > > > > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > > > > > > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I > know > > > it works with a > > > > European power supply, all I have to do is put > on > > > an adapter and it > > > > works. > > > > > > > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary > > > BCR2000 midi > > > > controller. I thought it was USB powered only > but > > > it needs to also > > > > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ > 50/60 > > > Hz 15 W... > > > > > > > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I > get > > > to Vienna (or do > > > > I need some type of transformer?) > > > > > > > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a > > > switch in the back > > > > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am > > > assuming that all I > > > > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put > an > > > adapter tip on ? > > > > > > > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about > this > > > stuff, I would > > > > really appreciate the help! > > > > > > > > Thanks So Much! > > > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > === message truncated === www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 21:54:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D3F3BED0; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:51:25 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the great link. At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: >I found this rather interesting: > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians >are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as >improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring >one's performance is shut down, while a small region involved in >organizing self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > > >Link to read more: >http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ > >I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain >activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay >relaxed and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose >concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But >this article doesn't mention meditation. > >-- >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 22:23:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7293A3BED0; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=O6HM0JOB3wOYcIiULcNwBjLce6j8Hq6QYRk18HZu0++l3xvfXEFd1OQvsTAuGZa4As6FyzDU+o81qS1VUmSlwrPdlp5S1/GXyYiAj0+MmsltCk/zMs0/q/hdC59I02CXnwTQpOZ9FbMGi+6vPIa77AVJeo6Qy49eKA0vD6UAJfE=; X-YMail-OSG: ITMSUtoVM1kv9U6JjG_J90asnialJhwww4luK6qLEXgF6FvAk7mBWXjSleyTN0T32pLd8wbb6ND.YRd1qk2Jg2fVxw-- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: qualities of reverb To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000c01c87c5b$4df81030$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <95909.72459.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Thanx jeff,i was specially interested in the Roland SDE-330, i did read the HC review which is quite short but wanted to hear it from loopers.I am also interested in new units that have the shimmer synth like effect like the old digitech dhp units ( i thinkthe edge uses one)and i believe they had up to a 5 part harmony,do any of the new units(except eventide)have that cool effect? cheers Luis --- Jeff Duke wrote: > Harmony Central is always good ; > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 > > http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 > > I just googled it. > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE > > http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz > > > > peace > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" > To: "Loopers Delight" > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg > > proccessors,there were so many different models > > anybody has experience with those units or a > website > > where i can read about them? > > Luis > > > > > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > > > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... > >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > >> > >> tilmann > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Rick Walker" > >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > >> > >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > >> > >> > >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his > trusty > >> microverb: > >> > > >> > Which reminded me: > >> > > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in > it > >> that was just amazing. > >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) > >> > > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with > more > >> Alesis and finally > >> > Lexicons) > >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb > setting > >> that was so musical as > >> > that > >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks > when > >> I was first doing lop > >> > > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > >> unfortuanately and the Alesis > >> > gear > >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. > >> > >> > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - > Release Date: 3/1/2008 > > 5:41 PM > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 22:59:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52B3C3BECA; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 685 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:59:06 UTC X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,440,1199624400"; d="scan'208";a="90287475" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:46:03 +1100 Message-ID: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Thread-Index: Ach9eTamcXZwuZbTT3yKZq2D2TSVtwABnKJw From: "Sowonja, Tomson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2008 22:46:12.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[61762E00:01C87D80] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5zAiBB.A.ZwD.8KIzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Yeah Per - I'm a long time lurker/occasional poster and I always find your posts incredibly interesting/helpful and informative. I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern recognition/memory and music.=20 He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: "Ah yes, I've heard about this. I haven't read the study, I'll have to find it and be more informed about exactly what was happening - lots of times media coverage of these things misses the point or gets things wrong, etc. However, it does seem more or less intuitively right to me, with some disclaimers:=20 Firstly, improvisation isn't really as improvised as people like to believe - most improvisers have a bunch of licks they play, which they know more or less well. Often it's things they know intuitively rather than consciously, but they're there.=20 [I have themes and things that I tend to use in Sliced Bread in particular songs - I don't have solos planned...though with the Soldiers of Fortune in improvisations and jams I really would make it up as I went along, feed off others - maybe that's something the study missed - the fact that improvisation happens in a group, and that would alter the way things work.] Secondly, the other thing is that brain imaging studies like the one I presume they used are temporally pretty poor in resolution, but spatially pretty good - it's hard to figure out at which points in the improvisation bits of the brain were being used, etc etc. e.g., you might find that someone inhibits the monitoring process at the start of a phrase, but doesn't at the end of a phrase. Tim." -----Original Message----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 8:51 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Thanks for the great link. At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: >I found this rather interesting:=20 > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other=20 >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians=20 >are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as=20 >improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's >performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing=20 >self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > > >Link to read more: >-different/>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-f >actor-think-different/ > >I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain=20 >activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed >and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose=20 >concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this=20 >article doesn't mention meditation. > >-- >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish)=20 >www.looproom.com (international) --=20 "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** =20 This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains info= rmation which may be confidential.=20 If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return em= ail, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your= system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or com= mitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiar= ies.=20 We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au.=20 If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, pl= ease reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line.=20 ************************************************************** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 23:09:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D3053BED0; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0lyOutWlAs= From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:10:37 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c87d83$caa2e500$0201a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <873938.51283.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Ach9eF9kBYqHdWw+QIeQlEyYCbRyEAACMdDw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Margaret (and everyone here), I have not dealt with your actual problem but with the symmetrical = version of it (using German gear in the U.S.). Summarizing my = experiences, I have found the following. Most of the gear you will be using is low power and will be using = low-voltage DC current internally. That means you normally have not to = deal with the problem of 50 vs. 60 Hz at all. A possible exception are = highly-optimized power amplifiers - check your manual for those. I would classify gear in the following scheme: I. GEAR WITH INTERNAL POWER SUPPLY a) gear which adapts automatically to 100-240V and 50/60Hz (e.g. = Behringer BCF/BCR, Eventide Eclipse...) b) gear which has some sort of switch to switch between 110 and 230 = (e.g. Behringer FCB1010) c) gear which will only work with one kind of voltage II. GEAR WITH EXTERNAL POWER SUPPLY a) gear with a power supply which automatically adapts (e.g. all = laptops) c) gear with a power supply which only works with one kind of voltage = (e.g. Presonus Firebox) Strategy: It's obvious that you won't have problems with I.a) and II.a) at all. = I.b) can also be used iff you remember to switch to 230V when you go to = Europe (I believe Zoe once killed a FCB1010 when she forgot to do so), = so defining a clear checklist for your "gear preparation for Europe" is = a good thing. II.c) usually can be dealt with by finding an external power supply = which delievers the correct output voltage (or can be configured to do = so) and is an "adapting" power supply (usually so-called SPS). When I = toured to the U.S. the first time, I got some of those for my stompboxes = and also for my Firebox - they cost about =E2=82=AC5-7 apiece. A place = to look for those would be either something like RadioShack or a store = which sells laptop accessories. Important figures: * output voltage: usually selectable, but it needs to be able to supply = the voltage your gear requires. Usually, this is mentioned in your = gear's documentation. * power rating: again, the power rating (in mA or A) needs to be equal = or bigger than the power rating of the device you're using it for. = Again, consult your manual. * plugs: those universal power supplies usually come with a selection = of plugs that fit in any of those devices which have a "normal" = connector (i.e. round - either like a mini headphone jack or cylindrical = with a hole in the middle). * polarity. Polarity is indicated usually either on your gear or on its = power supply, and your new power supply needs to match it. Note that those devices which have a very "peculiar" plug need to be = treated according to I.c) below, unless you want to start making your = own power leads. Also note that with your new power supply, you can also operate your = gear in the U.S. Fail-safe ATTENTION: By using the wrong (too high) voltage or by using wrong = polarity, it's possible to damage your gear. If you're unsure, ask the = tech guy of your choice. I.c) these are the ones with the biggest problem. As somebody already = mentioned, you need a special external transformer for them which will = transform 230V to 110V. There are special devices sold for this purpose = - the important figure is again the power rating: the power rating of = the transformer needs to be higher or equal to the total power rating of = all the devices you're connecting. As a computer-based musician with a stompbox backup rig, I'm happy to = say that most of my setup is nearly completely foolproof to this regard. = The stompboxes (DD20, G2.1u - in the future perhaps also EH SMM = w/Hazari) have SPSs, as has the audio interface. The laptop has a SPS = from the start, as has the BCR2000. The only weak point is the FCB1010 - = I always have to remember to switch back to 230V before returning to = Germany. Hope this helps, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 02:43:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4153BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6931 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:43:11 UTC Message-ID: <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:06:04 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Coincidentally, I am currently reading "This is You Brain on Music" by Daniel J Levitin, who runs the Laboratory for Musical Perception, Cognition and Expertise at McGill University. I just started it a few days ago, but I am enjoying it thus far.. :) peace -cpr Quoting "Sowonja, Tomson" : > Yeah Per - I'm a long time lurker/occasional poster and I always find > your posts incredibly interesting/helpful and informative. > > I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune > who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern > recognition/memory and music. > > He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted > below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: > > "Ah yes, I've heard about this. I haven't read the study, I'll have to > find it and be more informed about exactly what was happening - lots of > times media coverage of these things misses the point or gets things > wrong, etc. > > However, it does seem more or less intuitively right to me, with some > disclaimers: > > Firstly, improvisation isn't really as improvised as people like to > believe - most improvisers have a bunch of licks they play, which they > know more or less well. Often it's things they know intuitively rather > than consciously, but they're there. > > [I have themes and things that I tend to use in Sliced Bread in > particular songs - I don't have solos planned...though with the Soldiers > of Fortune in improvisations and jams I really would make it up as I > went along, feed off others - maybe that's something the study missed - > the fact that improvisation happens in a group, and that would alter the > way things work.] > > Secondly, the other thing is that brain imaging studies like the one I > presume they used are temporally pretty poor in resolution, but > spatially pretty good - it's hard to figure out at which points in the > improvisation bits of the brain were being used, etc etc. e.g., you > might find that someone inhibits the monitoring process at the start of > a phrase, but doesn't at the end of a phrase. > > Tim." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 8:51 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers > > Thanks for the great link. > > At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: > >I found this rather interesting: > > > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other > >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians > >are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as > >improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's > > >performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing > >self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > > > > > >Link to read more: > > >-different/>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-f > >actor-think-different/ > > > >I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain > >activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed > > >and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose > >concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this > >article doesn't mention meditation. > > > >-- > >Greetings from Sweden > > > >Per Boysen > >www.boysen.se (Swedish) > >www.looproom.com (international) > > > -- > > "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two > opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability > to function." > > F. Scott Fitzgerald > > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > > My photography can be viewed at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ > > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** > This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains > information which may be > confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return > email, do not use or > disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your > system. Unless > specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or > commitment by the sender > or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its > subsidiaries. > We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. > If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, > please reply to this > e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. > ************************************************************** > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 03:34:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4ABE3BE80; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=q0YEjaWQrMIA:10 a=b6uLoGD6bQPOFAHAID0A:9 a=XoyTrg88a5LSqS6l76hK4IhtvD0A:4 a=SffsgEYwDXwA:10 a=f-ADshzQSboA:10 a=MJW7YRHiX4_brncfuGIA:9 a=WRyVz9ilEStFT3DCqmUA:7 a=5Yhsbacu_5bulZOVSv_n4ba3p0oA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19-808682037 Message-Id: <387F800D-780E-4B3C-BBC0-8EA30F3EFA3A@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:34:24 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:34:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19-808682037 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed so am i! i'm liking it, but i wish it was a bit more in depth. he spends a lot of time explaining basic musical concepts, i guess for non-musicians. i'm also reading musicophilia, by oliver sacks, which two people gave me for christmas. that i'm enjoying very much and highly recommend so far. interesting subject! On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:06 PM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > Coincidentally, I am currently reading "This is You Brain on Music" > by Daniel J > Levitin, who runs the Laboratory for Musical Perception, Cognition and > Expertise at McGill University. I just started it a few days ago, > but I am > enjoying it thus far.. :) > > peace > -cpr --Apple-Mail-19-808682037 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII so am i! i'm liking it, but i wish it was a bit more in depth. he spends = a lot of time explaining basic musical concepts, i guess for = non-musicians.

i'm = also reading musicophilia, by oliver sacks, which two people gave me for = christmas. that i'm enjoying very much and highly recommend so = far.

interesting = subject!

On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:06 PM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote:

Coincidentally, I am = currently reading "This is You Brain on Music" by Daniel J

Levitin, who runs the = Laboratory for Musical Perception, Cognition and

Expertise at McGill = University. I just started it a few days ago, but I am

enjoying it thus far.. = :)


peace

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= --Apple-Mail-19-808682037-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 03:36:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF5163BE85; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:38:42 -0600 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-reply-to: <387F800D-780E-4B3C-BBC0-8EA30F3EFA3A@zoekeating.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> <387F800D-780E-4B3C-BBC0-8EA30F3EFA3A@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:36:16 +0000 (UTC) > > i'm also reading musicophilia, by oliver sacks, which two people > gave me for christmas. that i'm enjoying very much and highly > recommend so far. I've got that one on my shelf also. I'm glad to hear you recommend it. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 04:51:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE1783BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0LpQcr+0ml5WalcdRFOkNrOgGA9fbtg906f7VEyMLCo=; b=gpeLdpuBpM4i3c/iF0GMFoUqItRvdGeo97+oiXwZqfcJr0jsaET65SjnH8kSX1T9du4tbNXljZ4cnr1HwdCTHuSHajyWGn+anhczAv460NZVD+3JJXkt+qCxMuPipCRx67VwBUL6DSgxlt3Do69Sy3WeHcx3c1e7V4LWk7ctS74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hCIORYSym0evwzcul0eUVwHcdbfDaKDVYqAbdMKvIp9PX1oINEGCLRC0ls7AYotcbzEbK84fvvpDh5BT8QWgHT3iEeJsqcgj5Gmk0Ma4l5OXjN2P72HeU+BG0iSrtY/GGVj4Hx6JAzXrdm238JoVbi/SbsiFbXmC6D4Lg0DVnIw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803032051j4869796chfd79482cd13da409@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:51:39 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-Reply-To: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:51:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Sowonja, Tomson wrote: > I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune > who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern > recognition/memory and music. > > He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted > below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: Hi Tim, Here's a link to a better article on that research project: http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_releases/study_prefrontal_cortex_in_jazz_musicians_winds_down_when_improvising And here's a long and really initiated article: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001679 Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 05:13:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 725A33BE84; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:57:33 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Books Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0803032051j4869796chfd79482cd13da409@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> <66f9cc1e0803032051j4869796chfd79482cd13da409@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:13:54 +0000 (UTC) A friend whom I sent this to asked if I have read Free Play by Nachmanovich http://www.freeplay.com/ which I have read about 3 times and I highly recommend. At 5:51 AM +0100 3/4/08, Per Boysen wrote: >On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Sowonja, Tomson > wrote: > >> I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune >> who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern >> recognition/memory and music. >> >> He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted >> below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: > > >Hi Tim, > >Here's a link to a better article on that research project: >http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_releases/study_prefrontal_cortex_in_jazz_musicians_winds_down_when_improvising > >And here's a long and really initiated article: >http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001679 > >Per -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. 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Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-1734758159-1204622738=:48786-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 10:25:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 037AC3BE88; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #5829618 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/eGAc64KHe9GQOhn4Q5w8heHGSRozavLw6MNiR03 cVtYMmOqEN3KoK Message-ID: <003c01c87de3$ae693dc0$c69efe91@parsick> From: "Wavecomputer360" To: References: <95909.72459.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:06:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, the SDE-330 is a very nice-sounding delay with a lot going for it (I think the big selling point was it having the 3D algorithms of the fabled RSS unit). The bad thing is, it´s not very straightforward to use, you can tweak more parametres than you would actually want to tweak (but nowhere near as many as on the Sony DPS-D7, though). There´s a lot of stuff that requires proper reading, and this is what keeps me from using it as a simple delay. Also, some of the more complex delays and some of the 3D stuff tends to produce some phase cancellation artefacts which I find slightly unnerving because there´s always this type of comb filter effect on the delays. Sometimes too many options can be a nightmare, especially when you just want a stereo delay that is simple to use... The SRV-330 is a very good-sounding reverb processor with some of the algorithms of the R-880. Same thing here, you can tweak yourself to death but the results are generally worth it. Especially the chorused reverb washes sound very nice. I have both units, the SDE-330 and the SRV-330, in my live rack. Stephen ____________________________________________________________________ "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. It´s out: [´ramp] & markus reuter -- "ceasing to exist", a gorgeous dark ambient album. available through our webshop at www.doombient.com For info and audio, please visit the official [´ramp] website at www.doombient.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > Thanx jeff,i was specially interested in the Roland > SDE-330, i did read the HC review which is quite short > but wanted to hear it from loopers.I am also > interested in new units that have the shimmer synth > like effect like the old digitech dhp units ( i > thinkthe edge uses one)and i believe they had up to a > 5 part harmony,do any of the new units(except > eventide)have that cool effect? > cheers > Luis > > > > --- Jeff Duke wrote: > > > Harmony Central is always good ; > > > > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 > > > > I just googled it. > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz > > > > > > > > peace > > Jeff > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "L.A. Angulo" > > To: "Loopers Delight" > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM > > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > > > > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg > > > proccessors,there were so many different models > > > anybody has experience with those units or a > > website > > > where i can read about them? > > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > > > > > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... > > >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > > >> > > >> tilmann > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Rick Walker" > > >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > >> > > >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > > >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > > >> > > >> > > >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his > > trusty > > >> microverb: > > >> > > > >> > Which reminded me: > > >> > > > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in > > it > > >> that was just amazing. > > >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > >> > > > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with > > more > > >> Alesis and finally > > >> > Lexicons) > > >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb > > setting > > >> that was so musical as > > >> > that > > >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks > > when > > >> I was first doing lop > > >> > > > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > > >> unfortuanately and the Alesis > > >> > gear > > >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - > > Release Date: 3/1/2008 > > > 5:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 10:48:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B60B53BE8C; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:48:47 +0100 Message-ID: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach95VLJ3T1DaXpfR66D0llDqv/amQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:48:58 +0000 (UTC) busking looper in Berlin: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Px_LF5Ir8F4 here's his homepage with more amazing videos: http://www.ricoloop.com I don't know what kind of speed he is on :-) but it is very entertaining and inspiring to watch him. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 12:47:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49E073BE84; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:47:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > busking looper in Berlin: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Px_LF5Ir8F4 > > here's his homepage with more amazing videos: http://www.ricoloop.com > > I don't know what kind of speed he is on :-) but it is very > entertaining and > inspiring to watch him. > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 12:58:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56E293BE88; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OINJAdr/0L8= From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:59:20 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach99d7jy3gLT8VNThO1H8EHx7TYzQAAZABA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all men at the opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? Because it's the style! > Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 13:44:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7757F3BE82; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=D/nKUnpzgRcK7988HBM26QloxNhAj7zR2537eRvjJig=; b=B7DcCOEfvioJ25xVlr1ctk8qqVCBFxS07BzkC2q/YnUq68CApcyWdB5nMxj8l51nz3MN+aJKArcSAYy0deKXrOcP+EEezANm1ycfrUekuxLeN6V9BAcyKBzKASaoU15RNQLrngI9DLXSLIJqy2mt5go/SAqkVkrAyHnZFxl+U3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LVZVBoTqG+DUC7/aYHVleLR5WT+bX853TniLCUqwZypX4nLSl0JZxdx7WfQyr9kTylBlN5TmSiOt4LIq31JdfhPHE8fqL3VKg0mtiN3IYh++QNwZk29RDYDjxk+Ry7GiWbS4iVvdMvpebP9gB/wURrxVYZ5i9PA+1MULhB0ZCfM= Message-ID: <825dc38e0803040544s1b9d66c2m52753d072bb963df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:44:42 -0500 From: "neil wiernik" Sender: neil.wiernik@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Announcing Vague Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ In-Reply-To: <825dc38e0803040536i7f4d3c80h1c2ce100e6d4cffa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756" References: <825dc38e0803040536i7f4d3c80h1c2ce100e6d4cffa@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7cd3f5d3c4ca2544 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Announcing Vague Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ Vague Terrain is excited to announce the launch of our new issue, Vague Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ. Guest curated by Saskatoon-based VJ and artist Carrie Gates, this installment of our digital arts quarterly brings together a wide variety of work exploring emerging VJ culture. featuring work from: ana carvalho kelley bolen and jake hardy defasten francis theberge jackson 2bears jaygo bloom (interviewed by michelle kasprzak) lara houston leeane berger michael betancourt mo selle neubau / kero ryan stec solu (interviewed by peter kirn) tim jaeger VJ pillow / VJ mademoiselle VJzoo / chrism & fenris x=E1rene eskandar ziv lazar view the issue: via http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/journal09/journal09.html Thanks for your continued support! Greg J. Smith & Neil Wiernik http://vagueterrain.net ------=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline


Announcing Vague Terrain 09: Rise of= the VJ

Vague Terrain is excited to announce the launch of our new issue, Vague
Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ. Guest curated by Saskatoon-based VJ and
artist Carrie Gates, this installment of our digital arts quarterly
brings together a wide variety of work exploring emerging VJ culture.

featuring work from:

ana carvalho
kelley bolen and jake hardy
defasten
francis theberge
jackson 2bears
jaygo bloom (interviewed by michelle kasprzak)
lara houston
leeane berger
michael betancourt
mo selle
neubau / kero
ryan stec
solu (interviewed by peter kirn)
tim jaeger
VJ pillow / VJ mademoiselle
VJzoo / chrism & fenris
x=E1rene eskandar
ziv lazar

view the issue: via
http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/journ= al09/journal09.html

Thanks for your continued support!

Greg J. Smith & Neil Wiernik
http://vagueterrain.= net




------=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 13:48:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83D0C3BE81; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <07B7D4F5-087E-47F6-BA2A-1A24AA2EE74B@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:48:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Right. Well you would think just one of them somewhere wouldn't flail around like that. But no. They all do it. Its just getting a little old is all. On Mar 4, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all men > at the > opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? > Because it's the style! > >> Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 14:23:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3A9E3BE93; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: totally OT - need translation help Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:22:49 +0100 Message-ID: <008401c87e03$3b014600$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach+AzktQaPFo4OJT9KVZfjHrVkr+w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <5b8F_.A.KgE.FtVzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:23:01 +0000 (UTC) hi all - I've finally tried to translate my German (web programming) business website into English. I hope I'll find some English speaking companies out there will give me some projects so that I can buy more looping gear :-) I'd appreciate any help and comments on my English - it's basically just = two pages but I'm not at all sure about some of the phrasing (just like in = my guitar playing :-) so if there is anything that sounds awkward please = let me know how to put it. (Please, offline comments only, I don't want to use any LD bandwidth for this.) mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Michael Peters mp@mpeters.de www.mpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:12:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7D8F3BE88; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=n0yThmXkEBosLknd01cpRijtuJeR1NUPpK5LGAaI3Ww1wh7kTiDEKQaESSK6mqVTDdtfQ1HhPx8pgKTQfKGH+edW/usGlHbQ/sRSzT+3wiW4sbTHObQutlr7VKaqTJULkcrgDUQKTTxw8DGFnhXWhCVb2Kki2nH1XZaqT1Ex040=; X-YMail-OSG: LX4UzHsVM1mO_gZtgqLQGFPjin.xOGOdgL1M9SQWGlKu9irOJ8R7xjROh3I3sjBUVWlUqkPo1FQPMVBa8IXws1AoIwoukCa7SpkoY4KsM9QhrBeOcyk- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:12:44 -0800 (PST) From: stevenguerrero Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <07B7D4F5-087E-47F6-BA2A-1A24AA2EE74B@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <370480.5683.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:12:45 +0000 (UTC) He uses a melodica...who cares what he does with his hands. Melodica trumps silly hand movements every time. Plus.... dude can grove. --- Chris Sewell wrote: > Right. Well you would think just one of them > somewhere wouldn't flail > around like that. But no. They all do it. Its just > getting a little > old is all. > On Mar 4, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Rainer Thelonius > Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > > Why do all metalheads do that shit with their > heads? Why do all men > > at the > > opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail > shit? > > Because it's the style! > > > >> Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their > hands? > > > > www.myspace.com/mesqua www.reverbnation.com/stevenguerrero ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:13:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93A413BE95; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Tgx5B4Y7n7oSaa4onxaK3tS/2SNEo+wkMuHXpGBXiGk=; b=Re3Mjlhkvd5X9VGT9d4fydjjy3XBEedRp+7S2eGz2dI9CNvhDeEygFZwG9RsppSuyZ7ApJB/eMt4MH//6ZRthcnNhgD2aGYQHfeKsYJvTDyyHmj8IE9YpJ8+AkiO6UcDB90rfUu1W/gbwLGm99o8DQ5tbNmuIIk8WKp+8c8bl3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=d+BEWaVg6lFPbwPx7eMMGUdiolGn22uwg+sGshlAMAQVHisNB4yq8FIson46DYBYhyHU3nyOgfPeX2J+NC4y0V+nx5VgJjXQzSvo/VEATRLNnezQ18F/Qgyv7PCOAhBALPkbXKXz5uPcQ7heFwUvBpJEe/g9Voaccy7E95ovJpw= Message-ID: <825dc38e0803040813r4e167665j16f2bdd12c68203c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:13:53 -0500 From: "neil wiernik" Sender: neil.wiernik@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: naw.music update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52d63a77791d4386 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:13:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Just a quick note the naw website has been updated www.phoniq.net is the naw HQ of you dont know already... NOTE the new releases and upcoming shows in March. hope to see some of you out an around soon... take care Neil aka naw -- ============================ www.phoniq.net ------=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi
Just a quick note the naw website has been updated
www.phoniq.net is the naw HQ of you dont know already...
NOTE the new releases and upcoming shows in March.
hope to see some of you out an around soon...
take care
Neil aka naw

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------=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:22:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1355E3BE8F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nWhmDf+qAASnv2uPwEEa6/HMP6BSpy7hrzqcEEFMwBTySz1kW6glsb7gO85+4AiL+aKm2QJ7KuvxKCvingZFm+VSY/H3/aWe6Bqw2jdbsrjFQgHpFKAQtT1Oii4lsEZkFazKbw2uMyJYLuNTDk7z7c/zic6/DADImhpL3qlboPY=; X-YMail-OSG: s3V0g3EVM1m3uRTcUHAVenemWAAtLfUNNZLZat2.E5K82yEMWH4RzGutHPafs5L1gUER5fcNbNl1ptOILOm45ob4YOriWbeGs2pxidiaoIKT3jzDOm0- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: stevenguerrero Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <42917.15043.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:22:58 +0000 (UTC) I'm reading that right now as well! --- cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > Coincidentally, I am currently reading "This is You > Brain on Music" by Daniel J > Levitin, who runs the Laboratory for Musical > Perception, Cognition and > Expertise at McGill University. I just started it a > few days ago, but I am > enjoying it thus far.. :) > > peace > -cpr > > Quoting "Sowonja, Tomson" > : > > > Yeah Per - I'm a long time lurker/occasional > poster and I always find > > your posts incredibly interesting/helpful and > informative. > > > > I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The > Soldiers Of Fortune > > who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - > something to do with pattern > > recognition/memory and music. > > > > He found it very interesting and had a few > comments which I've pasted > > below as some of you on the list may find them > interesting as well: > > > > "Ah yes, I've heard about this. I haven't read the > study, I'll have to > > find it and be more informed about exactly what > was happening - lots of > > times media coverage of these things misses the > point or gets things > > wrong, etc. > > > > However, it does seem more or less intuitively > right to me, with some > > disclaimers: > > > > Firstly, improvisation isn't really as improvised > as people like to > > believe - most improvisers have a bunch of licks > they play, which they > > know more or less well. Often it's things they > know intuitively rather > > than consciously, but they're there. > > > > [I have themes and things that I tend to use in > Sliced Bread in > > particular songs - I don't have solos > planned...though with the Soldiers > > of Fortune in improvisations and jams I really > would make it up as I > > went along, feed off others - maybe that's > something the study missed - > > the fact that improvisation happens in a group, > and that would alter the > > way things work.] > > > > Secondly, the other thing is that brain imaging > studies like the one I > > presume they used are temporally pretty poor in > resolution, but > > spatially pretty good - it's hard to figure out at > which points in the > > improvisation bits of the brain were being used, > etc etc. e.g., you > > might find that someone inhibits the monitoring > process at the start of > > a phrase, but doesn't at the end of a phrase. > > > > Tim." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) > [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 8:51 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain > activities of improvisers > > > > Thanks for the great link. > > > > At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: > > >I found this rather interesting: > > > > > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on > Deafness and Other > > >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, > when jazz musicians > > >are engaged in the highly creative and > spontaneous activity known as > > >improvisation, a large region of the brain > involved in monitoring one's > > > > >performance is shut down, while a small region > involved in organizing > > >self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly > activated. > > > > > > > > >Link to read more: > > > > > > >-different/>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-f > > >actor-think-different/ > > > > > >I've always also filed meditation into the same > type of brain > > >activities. Particularly disciplines where you > practice to stay relaxed > > > > >and focused at the same time - without falling > asleep, lose > > >concentration or wander astray along > associational thoughts. But this > > >article doesn't mention meditation. > > > > > >-- > > >Greetings from Sweden > > > > > >Per Boysen > > >www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > >www.looproom.com > (international) > > > > > > -- > > > > "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the > ability to hold two > > opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and > still retain the ability > > to function." > > > > F. Scott Fitzgerald > > > > > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > > Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image > Processing Specialist > > Video for your HEAD! 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Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:40:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 944F43BE94; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080304114028.LTWMV.111411.root@fepweb14> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 8:40:28 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ricoloop Cc: Michael Peters In-Reply-To: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <0UmltC.A.UEC.BuXzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC) LOL, Wasn't this fellow mentioned on LD a couple years back ('06?) as sort of be= ing Rick Walker's somewhat more "inside" musical doppelganger? Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Michael Peters wrote:=20 > busking looper in Berlin: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPx_LF5Ir8F4 >=20 > here's his homepage with more amazing videos: http://www.ricoloop.com >=20 > I don't know what kind of speed he is on :-) but it is very entertaining = and > inspiring to watch him. >=20 > -Michael > From sam_sogoba2@walla.com Tue Mar 4 19:10:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 76548 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:10:31 UTC Received: from omail106.walla.co.il (omail106.walla.co.il [192.118.71.106]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD843BE73 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omail106.walla.co.il (omail106.walla.co.il [127.0.0.1]) by omail106.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m23LsDBq016696; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:54:13 +0200 Received: (from informix@localhost) by omail106.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.1/Submit) id 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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:48:37 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Youtube music - To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, fred.bauer@computacenter.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <392713.60382.qm@web26202.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Have you looked at this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24v2lgkDhzU&feature=related best regards Rune F. _________________________________________________________ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 21:38:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97F143BE82; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:36:36 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 24.6.254.52 Resent-Message-ID: <1Liuh.A.NnE.GFczHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:38:14 +0000 (UTC) I disagree... well, not with the opening of the Wiener Opernball, but, with both the beatboxers and metalheads, I think the motions are actually important to the making of the music... I'm not sure if I can articulate what I think about it, but, it's this whole kinesthetic thing.. feeling the music with your whole body.. participating fully in the energy of the music... I'd like to think Rick Walker has something to say about this too.. hehe... peace -cpr Quoting Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill : > Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all men at the > opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? > Because it's the style! > > > Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 21:49:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37EB3BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6B6618C3-13E8-471A-99C3-330F797B5976@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:48:57 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) I suspect they are pretending to be playing a real instrument. Visualizing the movements of a turntable and other assorted props. Fine. That makes sense. I'm just surprised that to a Beatboxer, they ALL do it. I don't know, to me it's a little goofy. Even the guys that mix it in with singing, once they start "beatboxing", the hand goes up and starts to wiggle around. But yeah, stylistically, It seems appropriate. Still guys, just an observation. On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:36 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > I disagree... well, not with the opening of the Wiener Opernball, > but, with > both > the beatboxers and metalheads, I think the motions are actually > important to > the making of the music... I'm not sure if I can articulate what I > think about > it, but, it's this whole kinesthetic thing.. feeling the music with > your whole > body.. participating fully in the energy of the music... I'd like > to think Rick > Walker has something to say about this too.. hehe... > > peace > -cpr > > Quoting Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill : > >> Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all >> men at the >> opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? >> Because it's the style! >> >>> Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 23:20:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F2B3BE81; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=onIA+7rsHN1uFhltsT/8CHVLGLM5agKGcIyQrzfm3OKpCCDAbXRU7qYeEzVqzwfTy1UpS6AdZGHrLmYYx5lO85BLdGNUQXUUXVQYAW8PWB9+yMLntbCTE3y/zJR4tkNhbK22s/udgfvLQH7VpWSNSw+sf617EHHBKMj1ZwmM3so=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/902.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:20:31 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Joyce Subject: Re: Terry Riley videos? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <231363.80767.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Michael There's a great video of Terry Riley playing his just intonation synth live here: http://ubuweb.com/film/aether.html. The video is called "Landscape with Terry Riley". You'll have to sit through about 40min of Terry Riley talking to Robert Ashley, mostly about goats and goats' milk (!!!) first (plus a bit about composition etc) which is either irritating or unintentionally hilarious depending on your mood, but after that there's an AMAZING 45min piece of music called Shri Camel: Morning Corona which is well worth the wait. You can also download the music as an mp3. BTW my favourite LPs/CDs by Terry are: * Shri Camel (studio recording with multitracked just intonation synths - gorgeous) * Harp of the New Albion (double CD of just intonation piano - amazing) * Lisbon Concert (ordinary piano tuning, astonishing versatility and fluctuations of mood) * Soundtrack to Les Yeux Fermes / Lifespan (recently released soundtrack to 70's films with some amazing synth work) * Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band "All Night Flight" Vol 1 (Not to be confused with a similarly titled album. This one contains amazing saxophone solos going through Terrys 'Time Lag Accumulator') Have you heard any of these ? They're ALL well worth checking out. Cheers, Guy (XISTH entertainment) > I'm looking for classic Terry Riley concert videos, anything solo where he > plays keyboards. Ideally stuff from the seventies or sixties. There is > nothing on Youtube except for tiny excerpts, but with such excerpts > existing > (e.g. in http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgSRi4pMmQ), this could mean that > there are longer videos somewhere. > > -Michael ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 23:31:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EFA13BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=3fQtZIQvIAynDdnqv5eQo1k8ITnfgdaHT4ntplObao8KymEWv0AoDTQdYqAUuMm49V/BOpKoON+6PEpr0361qtrMKtZmKiDBrS3kHhk37oLDJrM/7lGZpJWaBBDCGZ+IEVFMSRhHTor5ch77y7GvYDv6AijL9CS6VmMftHyQwmc=; X-YMail-OSG: OGmGshkVM1m8i61sd2O1xeFgNQZ23Up99WkbQyfWUtEiZ2ga6BbRGH_bP.BToracnw-- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: qualities of reverb/cool vitage delay units To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003c01c87de3$ae693dc0$c69efe91@parsick> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Hey Stephen thanx now we are talkin! I wasn´t luck enough to have gone through all of those great analog and now obscure digital rackmount boxes everybody is looking for now days,so this is why i am curious about them.There is a recent revival of all of this analog echo simulators and i would be interested in knowing if they can sonically replace those units.Ive also heard and read that those first digital units had latency drawbacks when changing patches, heating problems,and offcourse now getting replacement parts for them doesnt make them to attractive to get. So for those who are luck to own or have tried them,which would be the coolest sci-fi rackmount echo reverb delay unit from these ones? which hardware units on the market would replace them,or are they still irreplaceable and worth getting? Korg SDD2000 Sampling delay Roland 501 space echo Roland SRE-555 echo chorus delay Roland SDE 330 Roland SDE1000 Digital delay Roland SDE3000 Digital delay Sony DPS D7 MXR Digital Delay Blue Face Rack mount Ibanez DM 1000 Digital Delay Effects Ibanez DM 1100 Digital Delay Effects Deltalab Effectron II Digital Delay DIGITECH 3.6 Digital Delay DOD D12 Digital loop delay deltalab adm 2048 super timeline delay Lexicon PCM42 TESLA studio echo - vintage tape delay 70s SPACE Klark Teknik 716 digital delay TC.2290 feel free to add! cheers Luis --- Wavecomputer360 wrote: > Hi Luis, > > the SDE-330 is a very nice-sounding delay with a lot > going for it (I think > the big selling point was it having the 3D > algorithms of the fabled RSS > unit). The bad thing is, it´s not very > straightforward to use, you can tweak > more parametres than you would actually want to > tweak (but nowhere near as > many as on the Sony DPS-D7, though). There´s a lot > of stuff that requires > proper reading, and this is what keeps me from using > it as a simple delay. > Also, some of the more complex delays and some of > the 3D stuff tends to > produce some phase cancellation artefacts which I > find slightly unnerving > because there´s always this type of comb filter > effect on the delays. > Sometimes too many options can be a nightmare, > especially when you just want > a stereo delay that is simple to use... > > The SRV-330 is a very good-sounding reverb processor > with some of the > algorithms of the R-880. Same thing here, you can > tweak yourself to death > but the results are generally worth it. Especially > the chorused reverb > washes sound very nice. I have both units, the > SDE-330 and the SRV-330, in > my live rack. > > Stephen > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking > squealing Gucci little piggy." > (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the > Past Redux, reissued > with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. > > It´s out: [´ramp] & markus reuter -- "ceasing to > exist", a gorgeous dark > ambient album. available through our webshop at > www.doombient.com > > For info and audio, please visit the official > [´ramp] website at > www.doombient.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > Thanx jeff,i was specially interested in the > Roland > > SDE-330, i did read the HC review which is quite > short > > but wanted to hear it from loopers.I am also > > interested in new units that have the shimmer > synth > > like effect like the old digitech dhp units ( i > > thinkthe edge uses one)and i believe they had up > to a > > 5 part harmony,do any of the new units(except > > eventide)have that cool effect? > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > > > --- Jeff Duke wrote: > > > > > Harmony Central is always good ; > > > > > > > > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 > > > > > > I just googled it. > > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz > > > > > > > > > > > > peace > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "L.A. Angulo" > > > To: "Loopers Delight" > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM > > > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > > > > > > > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and > korg > > > > proccessors,there were so many different > models > > > > anybody has experience with those units or a > > > website > > > > where i can read about them? > > > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard > wrote: > > > > > > > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... > > > >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > > > >> > > > >> tilmann > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Rick Walker" > > > >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > > >> > > > >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > > > >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his > > > trusty > > > >> microverb: > > > >> > > > > >> > Which reminded me: > > > >> > > > > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb > in > > > it > > > >> that was just amazing. > > > >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > > >> > > > > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs > (with > > > more > > > >> Alesis and finally > > > >> > Lexicons) > > > >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb > > > setting > > > >> that was so musical as > > > >> > that > > > >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite > tricks > > > when > > > >> I was first doing lop > > > >> > > > > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > > > >> unfortuanately and the Alesis > > > >> > gear > > > >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home > page. > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.21.3/1306 - > > > Release Date: 3/1/2008 > > > > 5:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > === message truncated === www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 00:13:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A9B3BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tv48AP/0Jf7+atRR0W9SuWiWYSyoo7joJLySHSrvA6A=; b=MGzPFhbpZ0vl3BCHWvL4IBlqWUEmV5lc9SwAeuI3dGNYioX+pAMjTzrT1NR7DKuPfwH+p5qwsC8cU1J2s9OX3ek6i2VcAQ5r8WN+jhMTNUqGg5lNjMCZPQdH0wLZ+URtvpt2GiiuqYy/G5gFl6e5hS7LUdsj1JmbDYQOzFnTVwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UIZfeSv8JKtFy/XmHeyCccQorTPqZvOcwxagXtWpas9/NCA6qEXlonauEcV3LIdY/ldeg8ms7CwU7/C89VtY5YCLVPvSNEg+G4Fkys/8TAkySyJ/295Ym9ZwwXHYk8/cjz0eHQK8rtxj1W7fZBb9rwQF95Xnem0lZsjgNaMPUWY= Message-ID: <588ce11d0803041613l4650df97n7f883c09f5bf8fa7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:13:13 -0800 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Terry Riley videos? In-Reply-To: <231363.80767.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <231363.80767.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) I love "Shri Camel" and "All Night Flight!" I'd add the very different "You're no good" to the list as well. It anticipates a lot of modern remix techniques (sometimes a bit awkwardly) with tape splicing. >From the All Music Guide: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=3Damg&sql=3D= 43:118118 "the title cut, You're No Good, that's the shocker. Possibly taking a cue from Steve Reich's mid-'60s tape pieces Come Out and It's Gonna Rain, Riley sought to combine a popular music form, in this case of the Motown variety, with ideas on phasing and out-of-sync iterations. The work begins with several minutes of rumbling, harsh electronic tones; already the listener is thinking that this is unlike any previous and/or typical Riley fare. Suddenly, it erupts into a funky, funny soul tune with a female vocalist bemoaning the unbecoming qualities of her lover. This goes on for a few minutes more, very enjoyable in its clunky, maybe a bit na=EFve, way until Riley starts messing around with the tape, double-tracking it at various points, producing a very unsettling sense. Additionally, this is done with enormous (and appealing) crudity and sheer messiness, obviously the result of "hands-on" tape splicing; no slickness here. Sometimes a channel drops out entirely for a few seconds only to burst back in jarring fashion. Toward the end of the composition (which, though it occupies the entire first disc, is only about 20 minutes long), Riley introduces blooping sine tones that further heighten the sense of the bizarre, as though the poor song had been mercilessly submerged in some distant sonic universe." --=20 Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 00:42:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36E013BE87; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CTWL0XiJge9bBxVT/BJuENlqbSvx97H8tbExCh2AWF03s0Xe4yhKvK5aTlwAbeJWauE5EXWtEpWfDiAjV0geBQ54XSF5Z+vdvB4N+SKa2Y3bZGS1dK2l1QNxkNwOxUsqUOVP1OP3wGBXmnlBCMMZyYiKc8qvNwDYXwq98nnCxZ8=; X-YMail-OSG: 4152sJEVM1mGkMve123.pxpescDngY55Q3Muh4atyigvOdUTU1PIhpUYYIKim6YOdAajlOAgrB3ia9JgrkAYWUO191hepS4kBIxU2ageHFsQ9jw80oQVnsU1j5EsYLP3MCiaC3vZCBdqmeY- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/902.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:42:38 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Joyce Subject: Re: Terry Riley videos? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <699156.81497.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I've heard that. It's good, but not one of my favourite Terrys'.=0A=0A= ----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Art Simon =0ATo: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 12:13:13 A= M=0ASubject: Re: Terry Riley videos?=0A=0AI love "Shri Camel" and "All Nigh= t Flight!" I'd add the very different=0A"You're no good" to the list as wel= l. It anticipates a lot of modern=0Aremix techniques (sometimes a bit awkwa= rdly) with tape splicing.=0A=0AFrom the All Music Guide: http://www.allmus= ic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=3Damg&sql=3D43:118118=0A=0A"the title cut, You're No Go= od, that's the shocker. Possibly taking a=0Acue from Steve Reich's mid-'60s= tape pieces Come Out and It's Gonna=0ARain, Riley sought to combine a popu= lar music form, in this case of=0Athe Motown variety, with ideas on phasing= and out-of-sync iterations.=0AThe work begins with several minutes of rumb= ling, harsh electronic=0Atones; already the listener is thinking that this = is unlike any=0Aprevious and/or typical Riley fare. Suddenly, it erupts int= o a funky,=0Afunny soul tune with a female vocalist bemoaning the unbecomin= g=0Aqualities of her lover. This goes on for a few minutes more, very=0Aenj= oyable in its clunky, maybe a bit na=EFve, way until Riley starts=0Amessing= around with the tape, double-tracking it at various points,=0Aproducing a = very unsettling sense. Additionally, this is done with=0Aenormous (and appe= aling) crudity and sheer messiness, obviously the=0Aresult of "hands-on" ta= pe splicing; no slickness here. Sometimes a=0Achannel drops out entirely fo= r a few seconds only to burst back in=0Ajarring fashion. Toward the end of = the composition (which, though it=0Aoccupies the entire first disc, is only= about 20 minutes long), Riley=0Aintroduces blooping sine tones that furthe= r heighten the sense of the=0Abizarre, as though the poor song had been mer= cilessly submerged in=0Asome distant sonic universe."=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- = =0AArt Simon=0Asimart@null.net=0Aart.simon.tripod.com=0Amyspace [dot] com/a= rtsimon=0A=0A=0A _____________________________________________________= _______________________________=0ABe a better friend, newshound, and =0Akno= w-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=3D= Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 05:44:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A57923BE84; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:44:20 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:44:30 +0000 (UTC) I'm slowly working through the ton of new music posted here this week, but have been giving this a few spins today. You're a sick puppy, Doug! Which is to say I really like this. I'm going to try to review it - and all these other releases too - and I can tell you now it's gonna get a thumbs-up. I can't find the blog post about it, though, the Uncle Dig website seems more a collection of gear reviews by different people. Canya tell us where exactly to find your text? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hi loopers! > > Been away and busy a lot lately, so I've got some catching up to do. > In the meantime I thought I'd offer up my RPM Challenge record > (http://www.rpmchallenge.com if you want to know more about the > challenge). Written and recorded in the first 26 days of Feb 2008. > > I wrote a blog post about it here: http://www.uncledig.com/ > > or you can go straight for the goods, here: > > http://www.uncledig.com/RPM08final/uncledig_bittersweet_drive.zip > > While this is not a "looping" record per se, there are quite a bit of > Mobius and EDP looping bits involved. If you just want to hear > something that's very loop-based, the last track "Division Of Natural > Light" is done with lots of Mobius rate shifting of short guitar > loops. > > Hope you enjoy! Thanks in advance for listening. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 06:33:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2B5F3BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Jbo86GViU2s6YXAMj3qUbYpqoVp3yhrlhIEff3YXEWI=; b=KV4+CoK8fv6bhCYgmE/HLEqNBUZ9RfVWCWgxjcmNoGQ0emU/13xDZsXHlieatl/9gqjQDekiv+rRwPZDjxa01STrB9fYXLb9B5i19XlpmFrhP4IYjRJPcNqb3ay+PS7W3lsF7jZQ0BL0VhGRwjXSxvjbTvBvg+hbXxAuekUw/Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pbcsJ8YfB4xVCvsik7qXQvvQz3PweSsv1bgCgIaKDGWOxHtysFqTHr9QrVvI0Knvry1fA3qBNP1Gzdf5wgjlk+5693Iq74O1laUpj7qEwznfiYEx80KFx+qMq3ZONn/rmEBHvqALIyfrQiaWpersnyjjJRKKHrmwnwytX98nF4Q= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803042233o53368c05i12bcae45ce7a709e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:33:57 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: qualities of reverb/cool vitage delay units In-Reply-To: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <003c01c87de3$ae693dc0$c69efe91@parsick> <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:33:58 +0000 (UTC) HI, Since this thread turned into listing hardware reverb units I can add the rack mountable Yamaha R-1000, which I once owned for a couple of years. I never liked the sound, but back in those days there wasn't much choice. It added too much hiss for my taste. Since it was a mono reverb it suited perfectly to us in the effect chain of my Gallien & Krueger 2x50w stereo guitar amp combo. The reverb also boosted this nice little guitar combo to give a better sounding overdrive. For studio recordings I often cabled it into a mixer loop and used one of those yellow MXR Stereo Chorus pedals for the reverb return, to give it some wide stereo and pitch wobbling character. I made it sound much better by rolling off treble (oh that horrible hiss...) and using a reverb loop (sending the reverb return back into the unit). I would not recommend the R-1000 and actually gave it away for free to a guy that said he liked it. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:31 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > > Korg SDD2000 Sampling delay > Roland 501 space echo > Roland SRE-555 echo chorus delay > Roland SDE 330 > Roland SDE1000 Digital delay > Roland SDE3000 Digital delay > Sony DPS D7 > MXR Digital Delay Blue Face Rack mount > Ibanez DM 1000 Digital Delay Effects > Ibanez DM 1100 Digital Delay Effects > Deltalab Effectron II Digital Delay > DIGITECH 3.6 Digital Delay > DOD D12 Digital loop delay > deltalab adm 2048 super timeline delay > Lexicon PCM42 > TESLA studio echo - vintage tape delay 70s SPACE > Klark Teknik 716 digital delay > TC.2290 > feel free to add! > > cheers > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 07:37:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5413BE82; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'L.A. Angulo'" , References: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb/cool vitage delay units Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:37:15 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c87e93$bbf75520$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach+bHPo2SSeuzRORJO/T6t5QxPNNwAI0mjQ In-Reply-To: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:37:14 +0000 (UTC) "are they still irreplaceable and worth Getting" The answer I believe is no. There are still some very good delay and reverb units available from TC, lexicon, Eventide and Roland. I have a very inexpensive TC G-Sharp that does great sounding delays and reverbs, and has lots of knobs for tweaking as well as storage for presets. The new TC Nova delay and reverb, are outstanding floor pedals that have studio quality sounds and really cool interfaces. The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried. I think I actually drooled on one at the NAMM show. I've owned several delays on that list including the Korg SDD, The roland SDE 100 and 3000 units, and MXR delay, a delta lab effectron, and an Ibanez DM1000 and I must say my cheap TC G sharp blows them all away in sound quality and flexibility, hell, my Keeley modded Line 6 DL-4 sounds better and has a wider range of cool delays than many of those old machines. As for the shimmer effect, you can get that out of one of the new Digitech expression factory pedal, as well as whammy effects, without the noise that earlier whammy pedals exhibit. Also check out the new Roland space echo pedal, which does great simulations of old Roland tape echo units. There are just a lot of cool delays available now days though the trend has been away from rack mounts and on to the floor. Unless you feel sentimental about vintage gear, I just don't see the need to search for the older rack gear. Even the vaunted TC 2290 can be sonically replicated, the new nova delay sounds that good. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 11:33:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 622223BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=n3QeqGdlL7AmtBrfZOZ5E+ApIBuxT0vmrrorbn8kvnGwmcxb2MDzbk3nb3uYVXdKZ02DncNXSfdUO1qEAx51aJmctySdRO+jTt6sqzvKFbF4cslkww6AIKrKzAaZlN5qRJkt8t/BBv4nSKyIwAB+tkTGJ9eFetKd/Pr6gIAQoB4= ; X-YMail-OSG: CyClk1cVM1kGHw_ws3OJFB6CRTiETPi70Alzhpon9hKZrYXgox2l8.bsZQK6JVyCX.y6gKZAz.cLhCNwC7NC6F.oprB95tChgF1vCJu.wcIgOpWv X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt Stevens Subject: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:33:01 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Hey Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper and he has got voice. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:00:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 245F03BE80; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rSSKt8r27zFHv8BennsCfngknhxQOMJpvVTrHBzWrsI=; b=wS72HvmFk+lBa6No/bEpnWzWs0WED56gcHOjDnETWhFL1oe/eyLp1VIULQi1hh3JxFBeO7MKkDT7RJtn3kyOS6A92zlEkz5jlDAjl22E6jcrSWDwUp63z9jptSn97DsvNllOAwKdXOBb2IWRyxyVpXkf1HONBlk+LRAkqoXwJ5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qSCQnO1sRclV/BDBDpZJI+KTzv7jCN2fCS0dLgk8giQFeshYVpWWoEEt64CnCeQz2RJvf3PKKwFsfbKtWBtGN53RdCBwlU7/BaJDRT5DkrnYUlS/4Zv0uk/N7Bupt+KMRQy1yk5slvte73Ok86CuTpChc8QBodC8fOLXD3Auj/Q= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:00:04 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ In-Reply-To: <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5sRJx.A.5DB.HtozHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Hey > > Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that > takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper > and he has got voice. I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an instrument" and because of that very few people might realize that he is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can hardly go mainstream. Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff with vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline Glass. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:08:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F1D33BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=jLtLUcHLHXAxaz+/npnUGe/rpKghZLJJMmCavlLHZ6EGAmeRCJchFlAcRPmM5j59/3u4gJntux68kAdFxYipbKDOCaEcx1GjZq+UmVudjw5n06g3TTvIOLiEIJ4tYkD6hMJUyGMFB7UV1fMA4tYEwlmpU7DZ3o6C7PByUPCi0Kg= ; X-YMail-OSG: rQ1mkVIVM1kVHzi_9gdpaf_3Ty27.9Uxe5MSqPJSa0LLsdsCeASNzP9dpdXCS.PZVAY2xRVtke7gSofaAQu4D_gJrTGbN09sjhm3IBYTtYFjHKHc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:08:25 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Its kind of a hard thing to explain(looping) - but if people see this guy on TV it may change things and as all the sounds on his record are created by banging and playing one guitar MS On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:00, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> Hey >> >> Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that >> takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper >> and he has got voice. > > > I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason > is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an > instrument" and because of that very few people might realize that he > is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can hardly go > mainstream. > > Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always > interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff with > vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this > field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline > Glass. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:13:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172643BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=W+YFoYab2+9GEqMYxnUP2scCkkD68hGF94Qyzqn0aJw=; b=uK2fNnwjUx/vzVHae1tJXYWqViaWsAI7OOlNuBcugj/1GgF2nDYh1Ku7MLyyKQLpsjmyL40sIhll3vpohAPaps5OUZGI0+1PO5wvr2h/lTHozbLyz/zWeFYlKsGh9niwDqCqbC9w5D6x+Qp35j/Tt68YOd5q+969mr7aLyvaBNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ueTXFukimzxlUiChnsj11kjTtzrFvAQVPqYdjqbrS44hZVy69s2gN/bkLfgeVkQJyj8iM9FqCeypdVOEYbudQhvyu5Mh8TUOfB8Je7mgInFuD6XqugoOWZUPo9NIaqxzMYfBv/rez8Fir8HVRstqqrjKQ2VZHdEjVujfFti7hDI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:13:46 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ In-Reply-To: <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:13:47 +0000 (UTC) I suspect most fans of his are more interested in his music than whatever method he uses to capture the sounds making up his music ;-) (nothing bad with that) Per On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Its kind of a hard thing to explain(looping) - but if people see this > guy on TV it may change things and as all the sounds on his record > are created by banging and playing one guitar > > MS > > > > On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:00, Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens > > wrote: > >> Hey > >> > >> Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that > >> takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper > >> and he has got voice. > > > > > > I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason > > is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an > > instrument" and because of that very few people might realize that he > > is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can hardly go > > mainstream. > > > > Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always > > interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff with > > vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this > > field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline > > Glass. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:26:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AD573BE88; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=qHBDU+BSSASdpfa9H9F4GVM8lLTGZh8tvI3DjWrTolxOfU1DZBmMJUFpVH1T6MpB/kyDW31rT92wGr3yoU2HJG+cDkQaFznc+LDJaEyIwDxrBEdFm09OBHgHACby+Q/OV8FbwaBq996Eg8+jUANgJelkblT0CzrKZvOlz2GqhAc= ; X-YMail-OSG: iyj00QsVM1kP2abWgC.gyG921rU.cVpvbEWsXvAw_cjn0KG1rnChivEy2Q71l4YRw_ZiOrMfow-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:26:26 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Probably Per - might be similar to "the Tunstall effect" :-) On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:13, Per Boysen wrote: > I suspect most fans of his are more interested in his music than > whatever method he uses to capture the sounds making up his music ;-) > (nothing bad with that) > > Per > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> Its kind of a hard thing to explain(looping) - but if people see this >> guy on TV it may change things and as all the sounds on his record >> are created by banging and playing one guitar >> >> MS >> >> >> >> On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:00, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens >>> wrote: >>>> Hey >>>> >>>> Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act >>>> that >>>> takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper >>>> and he has got voice. >>> >>> >>> I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason >>> is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an >>> instrument" and because of that very few people might realize >>> that he >>> is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can >>> hardly go >>> mainstream. >>> >>> Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always >>> interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff >>> with >>> vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this >>> field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline >>> Glass. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 13:08:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E76073BE8A; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:05:56 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] http://www.yoavmusic.com/ In-Reply-To: <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> Message-ID: References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:08:39 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Matt Stevens wrote: > Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that takes > looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper and he has got > voice. > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com I saw Yoav perform last November when he was the opening act for Tori Amos's fall 2007 US tour. Pretty clear to even the people with me that he was live looping. Nice cover of the Pixies' "Where is My Mind". best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 14:28:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6A753BE8D; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZMigS0XhJGmWCuj7FqhAmwSK9uv3SW1xPROxg9myOxY=; b=dzGN2nhsss4W+Ua6g2uKR6oBoMeiVTk6LdACltwU9vNID2nR2uTGfP1pKUxrlR0f6QIcJ8GLzE2O2GoWNMRC3Pnup8vZIaiwvjLSgHlvmbQUG3eaIkTw057/lO7RNNVDflTAoM/hOJ962gpGcKTqF/BauoIaPy/A/ilII/qfCFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=w0d7BQBmgOve5oGXW0WAAY9UW3O5TV2YBYqrfd7bkBliV1Hv0bdCEdkzYjSz8UnCQnnC13tn7RvMbjEOBhwlHk8ayqkVSdJXD9UFsf0+q2WQYmm2PB3f+Z/ZUYoxn+Wm+iVQkx/p5/P2tSWEpFQn0prUHc+KrcLOf2lPrdPp8nc= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:28:15 -0600 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, Thanks so much! I am kind of a sick puppy. :blush: I apologize - I gave the link to my gear clips site. The link to my blog that says a little more about the record is here: http://www.uncledig.com/blog/ and in the spirit of requested spam :) you can also look at http://www.virb.com/uncledig/ I haven't said a lot about process in either of those places, so if you're interested in that please give me a shout offline and we can discuss without being too off topic here. Sincere thanks again, Daryl. Doug On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I'm slowly working through the ton of new music posted here this week, > but have been giving this a few spins today. You're a sick puppy, Doug! > Which is to say I really like this. I'm going to try to review it - and > all these other releases too - and I can tell you now it's gonna get a > thumbs-up. > > I can't find the blog post about it, though, the Uncle Dig website seems > more a collection of gear reviews by different people. Canya tell us > where exactly to find your text? > > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > Hi loopers! > > > > Been away and busy a lot lately, so I've got some catching up to do. > > In the meantime I thought I'd offer up my RPM Challenge record > > (http://www.rpmchallenge.com if you want to know more about the > > challenge). Written and recorded in the first 26 days of Feb 2008. > > > > I wrote a blog post about it here: http://www.uncledig.com/ > > > > or you can go straight for the goods, here: > > > > http://www.uncledig.com/RPM08final/uncledig_bittersweet_drive.zip > > > > While this is not a "looping" record per se, there are quite a bit of > > Mobius and EDP looping bits involved. If you just want to hear > > something that's very loop-based, the last track "Division Of Natural > > Light" is done with lots of Mobius rate shifting of short guitar > > loops. > > > > Hope you enjoy! Thanks in advance for listening. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 16:03:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AD6C3BE7E; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=iaNChfMcYJ43Bq3s780kevigFblB/kRd5K+vF3LRvqtmqBL0f7IcbJSjjUfyHWt0ltNnfdpCvTPg5urW6xOno7QUzQgX9bfFUYjHA4mLlogt58iC2ajjZLmTo5kbKG8dsGdhI5PQNy6/lBoRq8NUra1jTefdnYskPewUfghSIXc=; X-YMail-OSG: gtmJPNsVM1kjSIXm2hg4i1nDswhnPSp7WELumJ_y9uri1EJUtTBihUjnJ1wm.cEccLWR3pbtk03RRjoS9csgWq8OdCGNk4Dz3F3WwDG8EwPrbdtY_zc- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Alesis Quadraverb To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1887615092-1204733033=:44317" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <334626.44317.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-S11ZB.A.CrF.qRszHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:03:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1887615092-1204733033=:44317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes, I had to purchase one because, silly me, I missed a reference in the eBay auction where I purchased the Alesis unit that it had no power cord. I think it cost me around $30 for the power cord. Paul Randy Holiman wrote: Thanks Paul.... what an odd power cord to begin with....If I knew what the product number was or item number it would be a pretty short exercise, but no such luck. Any info would be much appreciated. Did you end up with one? Thanks, Randy Holiman Ozark, MO 65721 417-425-9281 On 3/5/08, Paul Richards wrote: Hi: I located one a few months ago from an unusual source (it was, I believe, a site called studenta or somesuch. They sold music software et al to universities and students). I will check my old e-mails and let you know. Regards, Paul Randy Holiman wrote: Hey: Sorry to come out of nowhere, but I am baffled by how you find a power cord for the Quadraverb Products. They are evidently all the same and I see you have had the problem I am having. Have you solved the issue? Tell me you know where to find one of these oddball power cords. Again, pardon me for just jumping in on your email. 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Yes, I had to purchase one because, silly me, I missed a reference in the eBay auction where I purchased the Alesis unit that it had no power cord. I think it cost me around $30 for the power cord.
 
Paul

Randy Holiman <holiman.rh@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Paul.... what an odd power cord to begin with....If I knew what the product number was or item number it would be a pretty short exercise, but no such luck.
 
Any info would be much appreciated.  Did you end up with one?
 
Thanks,
 
Randy Holiman
Ozark, MO  65721
417-425-9281

 
On 3/5/08, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi:
 
I located one a few months ago from an unusual source (it was, I believe, a site called studenta or somesuch. They sold music software et al to universities and students).  I will check my old e-mails and let you know.
 
Regards, Paul


Randy Holiman <holiman.rh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey: Sorry to come out of nowhere, but I am baffled by how you find a power cord for the Quadraverb Products.  They are evidently all the same and I see you have had the problem I am having.  Have you solved the issue?  Tell me you know where to find one of these oddball power cords.
 
Again, pardon me for just jumping in on your email.
 
Thanks,
 

Randy Holiman
Holiman & Associates

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Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-1887615092-1204733033=:44317-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 16:36:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23A493BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:36:32 -0700 References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Went to Yoav's sight from the link, and normally I hate it when you go to a sight and music just starts up, ala Myspace, but the tune that came up "Each Like the Other One" I believe was the title, I found pretty compelling. Of course it always helps your career, whether you qualify as a true "looping artist" or not, if you look like you could be on the cover of GQ. John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 17:08:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D48FE3BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CED378.9010506@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:08:08 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) I checked out a YouTube live video - which is where I normally go now to check out a new artist, seeing a raw live video really shows what somebody's all about - and the comments are most interesting, people definitely talk about the looping. Here's a typical observation - "Takes a skilled artist to play live loops as opposed to pre-recorded loops". Nice to see that distinction being talked about, at least. I like his songwriting and voice, more interesting for my tastes than, say, K.T. Tunstall. In truth, though, the looping part in his or her music is immaterial to me, I could care less if they had a second guitar player and percussionist or not. I'm interested in looping as a interactive device, as shown by numerous people on this list in compositions which grow and progress, whereas if someone puts an eighth-note delay on a string slap and lets it go through the entire song, it might as well be on a beatbox, to me. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Went to Yoav's sight from the link, and normally I hate it when you go > to a sight and music just starts up, ala Myspace, but the tune that > came up "Each Like the Other One" I believe was the title, I found > pretty compelling. > > Of course it always helps your career, whether you qualify as a true > "looping artist" or not, if you look like you could be on the cover of > GQ. > > John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 17:58:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E84A3BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2+zhk4KDZreLcylAOqMMy6CLRWbChr263kSOCy3I0KV5gMVdUu2bePWL6FKUYug/6LYm3jYqTL8sODbkviCR6AQE4z6yJxKBwiv6i7hRHVAIoRLuxpmGxkOLCdLpdLXGm6ydUv2M8JWBXx2qrJ7ikgVf8qRRwqKNhszpzI9JNqc=; X-YMail-OSG: FdGmUFgVM1kRi_UMGFt4hTfuq3jE.a5uBE0193Lb9Zj.ZIrMaWPsFD1Ae3nsdq4gAEiEw2epPWmurtYlVh0429aztfTq5Of_8tggmE02pk0ujVPe95LPUx.vZglAbw-- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:58:32 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: vintage delays: DOD d-12 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080305170819.7CDDB3BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1875505859-1204739912=:12408" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <171869.12408.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <41Hp.A.9G.J9tzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:58:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-1875505859-1204739912=:12408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i'll chime in on the vintage delays, re: dod d12. i had it for a # of years, it was my main looper, bought it for 120$ it was new old stock. i liked it because it reminded me of a budget lexicon pcm42 (see david torn painting w/ guitar vid #2 for reference)-i liked doing the manipulation of short delay to long (gets all stretched out and mulchy) and long to short (gets mangled sounds fun). it had an LFO in it to mangle sound more, not like what the pcm42 can do (square wave stuff, etc), but was a close approximation for not much $. i also liked the 6 sec samples option for quick reversing stuff. worked great. a year and a 1/2 ago i decided to move from rack stuff (took up too much space in my small studio desk)-and went to pedals. i sold it to someone for 80$ i think, looper in WI who was getting back into stuff. i liked it-it was cheap worked well, didn't do everything, it's a delay mostly, and the 12 sec were nice. is it vintage now? wow, it is discontinued yes, whether its something drool worthy i don't know. it was a basic tool that worked pretty well. i think it definitely mulched up sound better than my boss dd20-i'm not too happy with what the dd20 does w/ sound manipulation, but its ok. my 2 cents on that device. if you want to hear some other great analog delay devices-watch the adrian belew video from the 80's-HE HAS A HUGE RACK OF VINTAGE STUFF (NOW)-that he used to great effect. most fun watching that at times. i can't speak for the other devices you mentioned. happy hunting... s--- --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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i'll chime in on the vintage delays, re: dod d12.
i had it for a # of years, it was my main looper, bought it for 120$ it was new old stock. i liked it because it reminded me of a budget lexicon pcm42 (see david torn painting w/ guitar vid #2 for reference)-i liked doing the manipulation of short delay to long (gets all stretched out and mulchy) and long to short (gets mangled sounds fun). it had an LFO in it to mangle sound more, not like what the pcm42 can do (square wave stuff, etc), but was a close approximation for not much $. i also liked the 6 sec samples option for quick reversing stuff. worked great.
a year and a 1/2 ago i decided to move from rack stuff (took up too much space in my small studio desk)-and went to pedals. i sold it to someone for 80$ i think, looper in WI who was getting back into stuff.
i liked it-it was cheap worked well, didn't do everything, it's a delay mostly, and the 12 sec were nice.
is it vintage now? wow, it is discontinued yes, whether its something drool worthy  i don't know. it was a basic tool that worked pretty well. i think it definitely mulched up sound better than my boss dd20-i'm not too happy with what the dd20 does w/ sound manipulation, but its ok.
my 2 cents on that device.
if you want to hear some other great analog delay devices-watch the adrian belew video from the 80's-HE HAS  A HUGE RACK OF VINTAGE STUFF (NOW)-that he used to great effect. most fun watching that at times.
i can't speak for the other devices you mentioned.
happy hunting...
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 01:17:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E273BE7B; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 01:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RPXHWSIOE1Q8BK+91BXWo3bqiRru6qExAg7gck2ViW4=; b=gj7NvtyuIIxEmLiBUw3zw4KkptMw3Juq3BkJY1QM70OgHNCThyeLkOdVYrFq3TQxpvg6ZiVq5k2krmK/YRre1yiwM2FZ+dEeLvI+shgkT1hvkDR3mKQltQjBZl7D8zoGqvhb8X+aUAyomHX1LQAU8BjnjOyoayZhiVQb1eaTmLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m65ZZqZa5R78N7o/qHUtfrQAPwIUObrYZWMN5UHToVAIbtlfxEAsT4YatRA35R6XSEItW+S4phIgXmjjnQMGdGXmurEBeJ0J0a6DwZF9MkRAVk2zj5riAHsNBIcxxMLhxaWPGvax1M6mZW89gCTXpOQKfpOg2owq4543VvGoGRI= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:17:14 -0600 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: <47CEED3A.40706@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> <47CEED3A.40706@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 01:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Oh my. Daryl - that's so very nice of you! The review is very well written, and I agree with everything you said. What a rarity when it comes to reviews. :) My sincere thanks for taking the time to listen closely and to share your thoughts. I feel kind of humbled by it. The RPM challenge was a good exercise for me, as I needed to stop the endless noodling and improv-ing and actually capture some of my ideas. Before it was over, it turned into a minor obsession, and when it was done I was just glad to BE done. I'm so genuinely happy that at least one other person was able to see/hear/feel what I was doing and that it brought you some pleasure. Simply - thank you, Daryl. Doug PS - I'd like to link to the review from my blog. I assume that's ok with you. If there's an issue, please let me know. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > My pleasure. I've posted a full review here: > > http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Uncle_Dig.htm > > I'm going to be trying to crank these out more often as I have a backlog > already (Rainer's latest is next, and Nick Robinson's "Birds" project, > followed by other RPM albums) and I know it's nice to get a review > within the same year or release, if not better. > > Doug, let me know if there are any other links (such as the URL of the > zip file) you'd like me to add to the review. > > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > Daryl, > > > > Thanks so much! I am kind of a sick puppy. :blush: > > > > I apologize - I gave the link to my gear clips site. 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Blank Check® is a registered trademark of Capital One Services, Inc. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 06:09:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1F63BE80; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=BRs8CyQZH6aUr1yHITkqvjDidpjiAPAOIX3QVI2TRqE=; b=Iu79tbqWOrHAuXFtikuAzroaecuPLW3UaSv/I2fa8pZ3bDqMUQTyQMdxQjXUYVdwZu9CX2JGVz5erhx7X3FX6gK7+imlt2CRpPFojb22jMN7Oduq3pOULZ+ybtPcOV2zv7Th4rPwwJgxFm4nxaxVWW/A9kk35JQwivxO+D+2NDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=GOO1O3YSiWkC3QCdlvZuMRU+9/XCQ98idiPWX2dcrVoZVN1qA0SDPRQq4rClRZudLJyiHGgtojKnW1Z2PlkveWR45rdq8PBBxRXnpvz3CW4In63uUeOV9Nx9qRdCCliMPeLBU4mrkrZJaEAf0CAVRfyVcMz5Y73hH1bMAhnWRIY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: topu lyo Subject: echoplex pasting into another track? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 01:09:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:09:38 +0000 (UTC) hey everyone was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste one track into another track verbatim. currently i'm pressing next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast.. any help would be amazing!!!! -topu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 06:44:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70DC03BE89; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006b01c87f55$8a40cf30$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival DVD Set Now Available Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:44:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:44:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival (2007) Two Volume DVD Set http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/dvd.htm All proceeds go toward supporting this year's festival Sample Video=20 (Lumper-Splitter - "Birth of the Blue Guitar Baby") http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-3573187502380633371&hl=3Den Director: Tarey P.=20 Studio: Thee Blue Light Lounge Source sound recordings: Aaron Davis Source audio mastering: Krispen Hartung Volume I Artists Featured Krispen Hartung & Vincent Miresse Craig Green Amy Vecchione Moe! & Z'EV Stefan Smulovitz Ted Killian Rob Price & David Grollman Volume II Artists Featured Krispen Hartung & Lumper-Splitter Stefan Smulovitz & Rick Walker Bob Sterling & Krispen Hartung Rob Price, David Grollman, & Lucio Menegon Breccia Unicorn Feather Patrick Benolkin Jared Hallock Gretchen Jude Margaret Noble & Edyta Stepien Tom Baker & Jesse Canterbury Lumper-Splitter The Transhumans Rick Walker ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

2nd=20 Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival (2007)
Two Volume DVD=20 Set

http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/dvd.htm
All proceeds go toward supporting this year's=20 festival

Sample=20 Video
(Lumper-Splitter - "Birth of the Blue Guitar = Baby")
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-3573187502380633371= &hl=3Den

Director: Tarey P.
Studio: Thee=20 Blue Light Lounge
Source=20 sound = recordings:=20 Aaron Davis
Source audio mastering: Krispen = Hartung

Volume = I


Artists Featured
Krispen Hartung & Vincent Miresse
Craig Green
Amy=20 Vecchione
Moe! & Z'EV
Stefan Smulovitz
Ted Killian
Rob = Price=20 & David Grollman

Volume=20 II

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Unicorn Feather
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Gretchen Jude
Margaret = Noble=20 & Edyta Stepien
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Lumper-Splitter
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------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 07:08:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C7663BE84; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1JKxzCOGQdmmIrIrTdSFRAt0CG49MaQ7m3FfzrJeLdY=; b=FRal2feJcvCw/mFpI1ToGCD5eP0JLQJbSZpjIFK8ZfmwQJDZKyy1iYjDwQlZmsgpDQaFabJevcAGEkdaW5cvWWhBOUJowSa5ANoHWSGqdcESzBL8RNHeeF2mfG709qj/+YAgk+3Mr6y1ZxzdEuuaiYGeL5VrnUblXoVQj1+RT/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ubjf/eidr/WHXIl85w4fAac45Z6SjEiKAxCIsdt9kiJAMApAuW53GEyJ45u0XtHkzUZGzq5xlzCwsG0oxNAzShUOJkchWgLRtEpI1gieyBg4RomXZbsaDvNbzNyaRNe0DjoButDY7O9lDAmkFUiv0yO/AE9h6AmtBtu0R5ADiVY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:08:11 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: echoplex pasting into another track? In-Reply-To: <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223" References: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:08:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline next track in echoplex.?. umm are you referring to mobius instead? 2008/3/6, topu lyo : > > hey everyone > > was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste > one track into another track verbatim. currently i'm pressing > next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if > i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this > is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast.. > > any help would be amazing!!!! > > > -topu > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline next track in echoplex.?. umm
are you referring to mobius instead?


2008/3/6, topu lyo <topulyo@gmail.com>:
hey everyone

was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste
one track into another track verbatim.  currently i'm pressing
next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if
i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this
is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast..

any help would be amazing!!!!


-topu




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 07:17:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 940343BE7E; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XKtgpwkCn3+3loCvR95NFFQ2fWp/R3gYi8qfe6KaI9Q=; b=mz2KUVhthX5pfHNuwlhPCLhri9PZ5s1O/Mwd8Jbdc9Ea39BQtYbUR159iDFzcKKNybG3OgVb12Jx5Dhs+J9KEYpZeJhqlz3BYBteH6S3VCB/4x/jOicE6K5kn4PkvWYwHCeNBzFLpAvTuPmEyjvYLrloOpv2orVcG4hSmb+a/gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LfVrQh6p9GAjMPIfJcCpT1rqmJek88ByXp+jSVwSCF6sg/tb2uaK6i+eoUXT9d4N0zKjYII9uKhs1GsaSCOk03M/5GMSJn78hXIhnHt4b5Cn50u9S1yUDscL5r+qbhzrGMmuynVKMbpqij6qiniRO9dBBatVHwnvVAbvNDULWnw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803052317o721f748at757efc7527afba3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:17:24 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: echoplex pasting into another track? In-Reply-To: <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7bT8i.A.eAH.Fq5zHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:17:25 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:09 AM, topu lyo wrote: > hey everyone > > was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste > one track into another track verbatim. currently i'm pressing > next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if > i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this > is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast.. > > any help would be amazing!!!! > > -topu If you mean "loop" when you write "track" the answer should be that what you describe (ending Multiply Mode by pressing Record) actually is an intended feature. So if you don't intend to shorten your loop in this non quantized manner you will have to try not pressing Record when in Multiply Mode. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 07:23:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3805F3BE84; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 692679308/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.253.55 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.253.55 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAABsrz0dPSv03/2dsb2JhbAAIq1eCEA Message-ID: <47CF9C06.2010705@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:23:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: echoplex pasting into another track? References: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0803052317o721f748at757efc7527afba3e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803052317o721f748at757efc7527afba3e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:09 AM, topu lyo wrote: >> hey everyone >> >> was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste >> one track into another track verbatim. currently i'm pressing >> next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if >> i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this >> is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast.. >> >> any help would be amazing!!!! >> >> -topu > > > If you mean "loop" when you write "track" the answer should be that > what you describe (ending Multiply Mode by pressing Record) actually > is an intended feature. So if you don't intend to shorten your loop in > this non quantized manner you will have to try not pressing Record > when in Multiply Mode. > end the loop by hitting multiply a second time andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 10:26:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A13F13BE80; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 10:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1826 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:26:04 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter1-v.gandi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:54:56 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: film music rights,icensing etc.(OT). 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Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1146938987-1204812302=:86864-- --0-105292220-1204812302=:86864 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com via 209.191.68.223; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:17:32 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [64.233.170.189] Authentication-Results: mta513.mail.mud.yahoo.com from=gmail.com; domainkeys=pass (ok) Received: from 64.233.170.189 (EHLO rn-out-0910.google.com) (64.233.170.189) by mta513.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:17:31 -0800 Received: by rn-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id s28so731736rnb.13 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:17:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=fjtNzR/VvGa2uA14u6vQqrL5cculawEUO2vR1SsHD+o=; b=gXVRcRemoXMLdPSh2pyD+Cvpk/w2yXDXzLImvKzC1GDCHaXPuqxcxr93RmOVgYYoMImz0YFksdGPZP0LI9mTOHnT5rVrQP4NUeuJ6c1q1vaoRcS823Ck1WgeBtisP7x4O+45nbctaxpSkiL4WTRBKQFLuby3xwpfmIxPm2CkYA0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YuQ8eKrDQkTIkaxeZvYrqj8C+pltR+H+NVgnPdYC1WA2AXvJ8s+cveMj1GIg5mo4izlQg80JwMVlmzt4YEiD4jPm0fvh/nMCapAboNQLYhbayl5Nk9fv5pXWl4k/UbEQM767jeiQJ+nvHeVeK58s7C/0KvmPyNxDuKLY8QHHzDM= Received: by 10.114.154.1 with SMTP id b1mr5965238wae.118.1204776675320; Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.79.20 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 20:11:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:11:15 -0600 From: "Randy Holiman" To: "Paul Richards" Subject: Re: Alesis Quadraverb In-Reply-To: <792705.87805.qm@web35106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15121_11616964.1204776675303" References: <792705.87805.qm@web35106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Length: 2043 ------=_Part_15121_11616964.1204776675303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The Alesis P4, 22 bucks...what a deal...thanks very much Paul I'll call them tomorrow....what an interesting website. If you need some help bird-doggin something don't hesitate to ask me for help if you think you need it....good luck. Thanks. RHoliman On 3/5/08, Paul Richards wrote: > > The Alesis P4 Power Supply I purchased was from a site called studica.com. > > Paul > > *Randy Holiman * wrote: > > Thanks Paul.... what an odd power cord to begin with....If I knew what the > product number was or item number it would be a pretty short exercise, but > no such luck. > > Any info would be much appreciated. Did you end up with one? > > Thanks, > > Randy Holiman > Ozark, MO 65721 > 417-425-9281 > > > On 3/5/08, Paul Richards wrote: > > > > Hi: > > > > I located one a few months ago from an unusual source (it was, I > > believe, a site called studenta or somesuch. They sold music software et al > > to universities and students). I will check my old e-mails and let you > > know. > > > > Regards, Paul > > > > *Randy Holiman * wrote: > > > > Hey: Sorry to come out of nowhere, but I am baffled by how you find a > > power cord for the Quadraverb Products. They are evidently all the same and > > I see you have had the problem I am having. Have you solved the issue? > > Tell me you know where to find one of these oddball power cords. > > > > Again, pardon me for just jumping in on your email. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Randy Holiman > > Holiman & Associates > > 417-425-9281 > > holiman.rh@gmail.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try > > it now. > > > > > > -- > Randy Holiman > Pharmaceutical Technologies, Inc. > 417-425-9281 > holiman.rh@gmail.com > > > ------------------------------ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > -- Randy Holiman Pharmaceutical Technologies, Inc. 417-425-9281 holiman.rh@gmail.com ------=_Part_15121_11616964.1204776675303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The Alesis P4, 22 bucks...what a deal...thanks very much Paul I'll call them tomorrow....what an interesting website.
 
If you need some help bird-doggin something don't hesitate to ask me for help if you think you need it....good luck. Thanks.
 
RHoliman

 
On 3/5/08, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
The Alesis P4 Power Supply I purchased was from a site called studica.com.
 
Paul

Randy Holiman <holiman.rh@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Paul.... what an odd power cord to begin with....If I knew what the product number was or item number it would be a pretty short exercise, but no such luck.
 
Any info would be much appreciated.  Did you end up with one?
 
Thanks,
 
Randy Holiman
Ozark, MO  65721
417-425-9281

 
On 3/5/08, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi:
 
I located one a few months ago from an unusual source (it was, I believe, a site called studenta or somesuch. They sold music software et al to universities and students).  I will check my old e-mails and let you know.
 
Regards, Paul


Randy Holiman <holiman.rh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey: Sorry to come out of nowhere, but I am baffled by how you find a power cord for the Quadraverb Products.  They are evidently all the same and I see you have had the problem I am having.  Have you solved the issue?  Tell me you know where to find one of these oddball power cords.
 
Again, pardon me for just jumping in on your email.
 
Thanks,
 

Randy Holiman
Holiman & Associates

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holiman.rh@gmail.com ------=_Part_15121_11616964.1204776675303-- --0-105292220-1204812302=:86864-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 15:49:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5889E3BE86; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:49:53 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <7A3E47BF-D2BA-4BAE-AF03-2BC38BC06B8B@surfbest.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-1025304251 From: Richard Roberts Subject: Re: film music rights,icensing etc.(OT) Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:44:47 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:49:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-1025304251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Mitch - I believe the organization that covers the Pacific rim region is called SESAC. I apologize for not knowing what the acronym stands for. - R Richard Roberts ZERO OHMS "We are no longer the same after hearing certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, sounds organized by another human being: music." - Karlheinz Stockhausen "If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph: THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WAS MUSIC." - Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. From: Mech Date: March 6, 2008 3:54:56 AM CST To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: film music rights,icensing etc.(OT). At 6:32 PM -0800 2/12/08, L.A. Angulo wrote: Last but not least all of my songwritting is registered with the GEMA here in germany which is like ASCAP or BMI. Apologies for a bit of a sidetrack, but I was wondering if anybody might know the answer to a simple related question. ASCAP & BMI cover North America and parts of Europe, while GEMA covers Germany and I recall at least one other for Scandinavia. Does anybody happen to know the organization that would be their equivalent for Asia -- Japan in particular? TIA! --m. --Apple-Mail-2-1025304251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi Mitch = -

I believe the = organization that covers the Pacific rim region is called SESAC. I = apologize for not knowing what the acronym stands for.

- R

Richard = Roberts
ZERO OHMS

"We are no longer the same after hearing = certain sounds, and this is more the case when we hear organized sounds, = sounds organized by another human being: = music."=A0=A0
- Karlheinz = Stockhausen

"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:=A0THE= ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED=A0FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD=A0WAS = MUSIC."

- = Kurt=A0Vonnegut, Jr.=A0




From: Mech <mech@m3ch.net>
Date: March 6, 2008 3:54:56 AM CST
Subject: Re: film music rights,icensing = etc.(OT).


At 6:32 PM = -0800 2/12/08, L.A. Angulo wrote:


Last but not least all of my songwritting = is
registered with the GEMA here in germany which is = like
ASCAP or BMI.


Apologies for a bit of a sidetrack, but I was = wondering if anybody might know the answer to a simple related = question.

ASCAP & BMI cover North America and parts of = Europe, while GEMA covers Germany and I recall at least one other for = Scandinavia.=A0=A0Does anybody happen to know the organization that = would be their equivalent for Asia -- Japan in particular?


--m.





 =

= --Apple-Mail-2-1025304251-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 17:35:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AC7F3BE84; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:35:52 UTC X-Authentication-Warning: webmail-0.hosting.atlantic.net: apache set sender to music@carlsonarts.com using -f X-IMP-User: music@carlsonarts.com Message-ID: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:29:11 -0500 From: music@carlsonarts.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: <1TWJsC.A.cmE.4tC0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Hello everyone, I have just joined the email list, but I'm really =20 exciting about using a looper in live performance. I remember seeing =20 Phil Keaggy (a guitarist) using one like, 20 years ago, and I was =20 blown away. This list is awesome! It's going to help me realize a life-long dream =20 I've had to "be the band." I am a professionally trained and seasoned =20 male vocalist, with a college degree in music, interested in getting a =20 looper that works especially well for exclusively vocal purposes. I =20 have a four-octave range vocally, can sing all parts except low bass =20 and first soprano (which would be freakish). So, I want to be able, in live performance, to lay down loops and =20 layer them until I have a full vocal band accompaniment (including =20 vocal percussion, although I may consider using a drum machine or drum =20 looops). I want to know what is the best looper for me to buy to do this if =20 money were no object. Then, I want to know the best looper I can get =20 to do this for $500. These are two different questions, I know. I am looking at the Boss RC-50 primarily, but I want to know what =20 people are using to do this sort of vocal looping. What are the =20 strengths and weaknesses of different loopers for this purpose? I also have a four-voice jazz group that I would like to use loops =20 with in live performance, once I have the technique down as a soloist. =20 So, please bear that in mind as you help me figure out what =20 equipment I might need. If this kind of thing has been discussed already, please direct me to =20 where i can find it in the archives, or to other sources on the =20 internet that I can consult. Thanks for your help, and "loop on" and =20 all that. Michael C. and the SacTones From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 18:46:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D453C3BE82; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> References: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 13:46:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:46:35 +0000 (UTC) Welcome Michael C! I'm sure others will chime in but alot of live vocal looping is dependent on how your system is wired. I've done vocal looping with a Boomerang Live and now I use an EDP. The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to get a cleaner sound and I didn't like the amount the vocals were attenuated on successive loops. The EDP is much more flexible live and you can lay down multiple patterns. I love it for live and studio work. Now the boomerang is just a backup. I don't use my vocal mic for vocal looping (though I toyed with modifying my system to do that a half year back.) I use the mic in my guitar. Kinda cooler for stage use. You can hear some of the stuff done in one take using this setup at www.myspace.com/bohdanovich . I prety much do these songs live just like they are here-the EDP makes it easy to do That's my two cents-I'm sure you'll get your money's worth here. Welcome aboard! ~peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > Hello everyone, I have just joined the email list, but I'm really > exciting about using a looper in live performance. I remember seeing > Phil Keaggy (a guitarist) using one like, 20 years ago, and I was > blown away. > ~snip~ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 19:41:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA1423BE8D; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G+xHs1YRTi+iM0Mu1zjmKIOUFJceE+PGhCmppGKJQXA=; b=YxQfPRew6iUy6Nyx5CZ4KVIbdqSCifpwy7hORrlB0xp0AMPbva9MzlHqBqJ0mKqRPf4VNNK0iMvPIbkh0iQP90jPmtJ9wOD5vMUFdJSz/qWMetuEU0ORnNHjp0p8V4EzH4UIVSdDklXbSKsd+tI7XHz1WpPZ+V6uxNdvckN82Yw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=jNg5ZJ9vp+KignplGOqHHq5oGT6V1VlHbtoxwmJMsT6XcSnJ/MWXwWAk/yfce0/FwH6qW/R4qyieBxnS+HmOVAedSYtv/iXZB9F98BFi0K4G2gOLxkzco5V3nOvr3JxHbkFAR1qzheGyOWrXjqOEZKq/Pjg9XaWlsNHNzG9PwuY= Message-ID: <47D048EE.9010207@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:41:34 -0600 From: Daniel Dingeldein User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Lexicon Jamman FS References: <000001c87d83$caa2e500$0201a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <000001c87d83$caa2e500$0201a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:41:46 +0000 (UTC) Hey folks, I have a Lexicon Jamman with the 32 second upgrade and two switching pedals with upgraded stereo cables for the switching pedals. It also comes with a 2 space gator rack bag. I'd like 350.00 + shipping. I'd thought I'd list it here first before I post it on Ebay. Daniel Nashville, TN From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 19:54:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4363C3BE8A; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding; b=fl9vu1eT/Qq/wK6Jaewrd6YAEASzHCvEMdWfTNnd+R7hSUkBB4yb/+yvhF8lYs4t9TW08U6DkAYR0c438r6oxQClLmDSDQWE/g+cAKRUiho+fSXTvlOJMJOPG9rcDuuirkvn5zhO+pq5sd/opkORjKGcYqvsJVmb4QU1NVM5d8U= ; X-YMail-OSG: 6HdNmLsVM1kDfndxDPBbrJ0oyeLdVQY6_hmTrpWTbpPHQ8VUjkuJ6LKBlOYvpMgJHxRIQOpFCg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:54:36 -0800 Subject: BOSS RC-50 for sale From: Larry Stites To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <47D048EE.9010207@gmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi all - I have a BOSS RC-50 with BOSS power adapter I'd like to sell. I bought it a year ago and haven't hardly used it. I have been busy with other projects. So if anyone wants this RC-50 it's clean, very good condition, works great and I guess I would sell for around $175.00 - let me know if you are interested and we'll work out the details. Will be well packed for safe shipping. Pictures available. ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~ Larry Stites Nevada City, CA 95959 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 19:59:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C2E93BE91; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=vdD2Ca5Bl/yAeAq5xONlq6wqztSkggiFaaiHfpwnqeU=; b=EOYLEg02JvhTAQMMZLqE0GziNYpnGgvx51oj10cfVNo4voSrWOxukT7yEsUGzmJws9RGpW6GZIMUpayCAbFbyZJm1gRaJU8G0oTGaOsoXaXSVHxXrZ8MsUMceR7Z/brnPB/lOc8ykrzqxLMLFjViZWOx3UGDzkb6EZ1rEeZtNMg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=bmW+fP1rN52WBBMw+5fkxWvSM71OkazuYxK8UJc52L2vMwNiAn4w3GJw2ojg4S2nM1LD9t+iAeLoAm5vVW2qUvVnGypiQh/N5nIwn+hzqif8IcJoR+r6SaJHjSRRfNyFjF+LrkZnifdYlcCreTRwD7WX5l8rats3SJwECLTuWU4= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803061159i44faf829h715f0e9bb64ce400@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:59:44 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping In-Reply-To: <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26842_6324107.1204833584119" References: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 006c3e104a3f8c54 Resent-Message-ID: <5FeC5C.A.iXB.x0E0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:59:46 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26842_6324107.1204833584119 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Michael, and welcome to one of the most active communities you will come to love it here! I can also second the other micheals vote for the edp, as my favorite looper, it has some features that you will discover will change the way you think about a looper, and YOUR music, and music in general. Buy the edp, and you "become a looper" as opposed to "use a looper!" and it is (pretty) easy to get to grips with for basic looping "out of the box". Reading your mail tho, you may also want to consider the much maligned Repeater for your use. Firstly it has 4 tracks, so for vocal looping you could do some interesting things by keeping low register stuff on one track, and melodic stuff on the others, and once you have lots going, drop out the bass or some other part, or rework a part. Another thing you might like to do is PRE record your drum loops on a track (or couple of tracks if you want stereo, or the drum part broken down into two parts , say kick and snare on one track and perc on another) BUT HIDE them to the audience, by having them faded down. Start your vocal loop in one of the other tracks, build it up over 2 tracks, then BANG, bring in the drums. Your audience will know you were looping your voice, but... "How did he get the drums to come in in time" --- amazing... its magic! The Boss RC 50, is no wimp however, and i hear good things there... have you considered software? Abelton Live, might be your thing, but the whole software question is really opening a right old tin of serpents! mark -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_26842_6324107.1204833584119 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Michael, and welcome to one of the most active communities you will come to love it here!

I can also second the other micheals vote for the edp, as my favorite looper, it has some features that you will discover will change the way you think about a looper, and YOUR music, and music in general. Buy the edp, and you "become a looper" as opposed to "use a looper!" and it is (pretty) easy to get to grips with for basic looping "out of the box".

Reading your mail tho, you may also want to consider the much maligned Repeater for your use. Firstly it has 4 tracks, so for vocal looping you could do some interesting things by keeping low register stuff on one track, and melodic stuff on the others, and once you have lots going, drop out the bass or some other part, or rework a part. Another thing you might like to do is PRE record your drum loops on a track (or couple of tracks if you want stereo, or the drum part broken down into two parts , say kick and snare on one track and perc on another) BUT HIDE them to the audience, by having them faded down. Start your vocal loop in one of the other tracks, build it up over 2 tracks, then BANG, bring in the drums. Your audience will know you were looping your voice, but... "How did he get the drums to come in in time" --- amazing... its magic!

The Boss RC 50, is no wimp however, and i hear good things there... have you considered software? Abelton Live, might be your thing, but the whole software question is really opening a right old tin of serpents!

mark

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www.looop.no ------=_Part_26842_6324107.1204833584119-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 20:17:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6CFF3BE8F; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 378 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:17:00 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=JTYST8Mqbg0vHCpd/VDTwrIqMKot4ga5yLYFJwPP9qtYxzQXJPRk2v5ECbbOEDFb; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:X-Accept-Language:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <47D04FC1.4060105@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:10:41 -0500 From: Richard Ippolitti User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: 15d7f0cd6eb2d81b74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e51960688d85ea263e196c89e6ca9d3c820fc78ef350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 72.248.2.195 Resent-Message-ID: <5u9KhD.A.u-B.8EF0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Larry Stites wrote: >Hi all - I have a BOSS RC-50 with BOSS power adapter I'd like to sell. I >bought it a year ago and haven't hardly used it. I have been busy with other >projects. So if anyone wants this RC-50 it's clean, very good condition, >works great and I guess I would sell for around $175.00 - let me know if you >are interested and we'll work out the details. Will be well packed for safe >shipping. Pictures available. > >~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~ >Larry Stites >Nevada City, CA 95959 > > > > > We'd like to get this from you Dick Michaels Rogue Music NYC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 20:34:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44C413BE8C; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:CC:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type; b=KPOwMCWakVXsoKs2Lsq8/80AbSUPG3y1AhB0mi0swrPqt8LPfinC6NUVCXmZLRby8y/7BcePOUzYxbF/t2+YaXFnpOZkOJstsrNZ2XdruRxIxpFLYRoyc3WvyUD+S4L4qujj0Bb8beitTp7otyGB95JKSfRKqYU7PUCUYeMFM4c= ; X-YMail-OSG: DeiXib4VM1mL__EinmnlNUFZfBT5iVKQnGE3xO1xOgkdK3NsFGzaa7LSJDlxEPP1dYqY5DwT7Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:34:34 -0800 Subject: Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale Oops! Meant RC-20 From: Larry Stites To: Paul Richards CC: Loopers Delight Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <284843.31543.qm@web35103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3287651676_18080334" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:34:38 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3287651676_18080334 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Doh! Psych! Sorry about that =AD making everyone salivate for inexpensive gear then takin= g it away. I have an RC-20 - not RC-50 to sell... :-/ LS ............................. on 3/6/08 12:18 PM, Paul Richards wrote: > Did you mean RC-20? I'd take the RC-50 for $175. > =20 > =20 > =20 > Paul >=20 > Larry Stites wrote: > =20 >> Hi all - I have a BOSS RC-50 with BOSS power adapter I'd like to sell. I >> bought it a year ago and haven't hardly used it. I have been busy with o= ther >> projects. So if anyone wants this RC-50 it's clean, very good condition, >> works great and I guess I would sell for around $175.00 - let me know if= you >> are interested and we'll work out the details. Will be well packed for s= afe >> shipping. Pictures available. >>=20 >> ~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~ >> Larry Stites >> Nevada City, CA 95959 >>=20 --B_3287651676_18080334 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: BOSS RC-50 for sale  Oops! Meant RC-20 Doh!<= BR>
Psych!

Sorry about that – making everyone salivate for inexpensive gear then= taking it away.

I have an RC-20 - not RC-50 to sell...

:-/



LS
.............................
on 3/6/08 12:18 PM, Paul Richards wrote:

Did you mean RC-20? I'd take the RC-50 for $175.
  
 
  
Paul

Larry Stites <ncnet@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
  
Hi all - I have a BOSS RC-50 with BOSS power adapter I'= d like to sell. I
bought it a year ago and haven't hardly used it. I have been busy with othe= r
projects. So if anyone wants this RC-50 it's clean, very good condition, works great and I guess I would sell for around $175.00 - let me know if yo= u
are interested and we'll work out the details. Will be well packed for safe=
shipping. Pictures available.

~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~.~
Larry Stites
Nevada City, CA 95959


 --B_3287651676_18080334-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 20:35:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51CD03BEA4; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=49NxrfFv2hcmwOEgMWfBshng2etkxyCJMzsg0qOlDXs=; b=Rcc1MbG3yD1Oa8LoLIH+sX6yqnRGZ1gvghavDGg3mUz3X7jcAlwtlsDLWtgL+ZLhgCb1kfkC6g5INkhbf93hSjot4Kr0iiA/r0h7lBaXVRxcvVz+46CmgvDUB1n7pfb9HQd8PntcqlVWXcD1P2f2v6eUlXUhWLRMfESQQPRttLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=UBBn74ZQ5fhmCK6n9mo99+9c+r4tO/x2Mpyg+8PqhLuOdmVUBrUfBDggkNQZEqeYq2+ttCpnbGXF1TwiUvADjpO2rw1AYZYWPZJth81CLSakJ07hufaT2A2QCkGj/gtB6rlWHML8F9sESqSjSGpoXrzWx3k9wLK+qqqlkzdE1Xs= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803061234q48860fdp724e90d68dfed469@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:34:46 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Amazing Video Looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27098_29984801.1204835686025" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9b258c405330e14a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:35:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27098_29984801.1204835686025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ldPf3yqq3-8 Dunno if anyone posted this before. The kid who made this is quite a celebrity here in Norway now, he started with some pretty basic but briliantly edited beatbox video, and now this... fantastic. He is just getting Art grants thrown at him to do what he wants now, and he not even 20 yet, as far as I know! M -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_27098_29984801.1204835686025 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ldPf3yqq3-8

Dunno if anyone posted this before. The kid who made this is quite a celebrity here in Norway now, he started with some pretty basic but briliantly edited beatbox video, and now this... fantastic. He is just getting Art grants thrown at him to do what he wants now, and he not even 20 yet, as far as I know!

M

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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no ------=_Part_27098_29984801.1204835686025-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 20:44:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F08AC3BEAE; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=OEFZEu7fiMup0+YxnsvQgnKKP3ewMbpNbvPydp6C7FgaBKWDSt2NAk2F8PQg+M5zsmSFsdSP2mMCJGoj9EO1Za9zGEIyQKpc8QdSa0iePy8xrLFrKVXpCjLipG2Vip9x2Zr+AbsQ/vE8y5nHf7SlMUS6BUhhtIaJ1qIgzvRDKKE=; X-YMail-OSG: aI5w2YUVM1lZYx6Bc_.XH74g59yvrVFCUklVHg9a5p1sVbzEimcmeVIE0AjxhQMlUjrFQCLF8TDjP0rq3fOMlYA12d9oHdNOXw3OH5ZhubhFuOhhpa6yn0aWAEq_jQ-- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 12:44:18 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: oh...theres a tweek?!! To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-791501598-1204836258=:17542" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <852456.17542.qm@web39212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_hLGoD.A.l2C.jeF0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 20:44:19 +0000 (UTC) --0-791501598-1204836258=:17542 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit how bought a response here guys?...Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:08 -0800 (PST)----- Lurker surfacing with Boomerang head ache.........i know you guys have probably dealt with this issue before but...how do you set a boomerang to limit the background hiss?..I've tried putting an old rocktron micro hush between the rang & the board ...the hiss is gone ..but total tone suck.....any input?...thanks...kyle Kyle Dean PattenP.O. Box 22Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten --0-791501598-1204836258=:17542 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit how bought a response here guys?...Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:08 -0800 (PST)----- Lurker surfacing with Boomerang head ache.........i know you guys have probably dealt with this issue before but...how do you set a boomerang to limit the background hiss?..I've tried putting an old rocktron micro hush between the rang & the board ...the hiss is gone ..but total tone suck.....any input?...thanks...kyle

Kyle Dean Patten
P.O. Box 22
Johnston, IA  50131
 
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten
--0-791501598-1204836258=:17542-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 22:26:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 911083BE8A; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-22008346222640987@M2W002.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 143.182.124.3 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:26:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Amazing Video Looping Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:26:43 +0000 (UTC) Wow! what a surprise! amazing=2E -Q Original Message: ----------------- From: mark francombe mark@markfrancombe=2Ecom Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:34:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Amazing Video Looping http://uk=2Eyoutube=2Ecom/watch=3Fv=3DldPf3yqq3-8 Dunno if anyone posted this before=2E The kid who made this is quite a celebrity here in Norway now, he started with some pretty basic but briliantly edited beatbox video, and now this=2E=2E=2E fantastic=2E He is = just getting Art grants thrown at him to do what he wants now, and he not even = 20 yet, as far as I know! M --=20 www=2Emarkfrancombe=2Ecom www=2Elooop=2Eno -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/mail2web From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 22:59:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B6BB3BE8B; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=QqgtOYTPYVP/WW6K442vzV6w71+A0mvuedHsWVm9GVEKeKs9yqFOW9Uba/sZjwMB6gxNuSHq83VtIa0KyZMQnIrY59tnai09CXUT/KDtRbelosbGXP52hVL4HnJa7ZoiC4TWQ8iZ8Pu5Tba3PI8xv+3g8eESbMRQ2Ru2cn8KAbE=; X-YMail-OSG: 4mwPwTMVM1kChGUW8DdB0B1YMhtTaA9Ud6zB7TxG7P4_CUQc3vGN1doSMX7BKcqRcNXF7n2XGg-- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 14:59:56 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-765309608-1204844396=:41800" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <373177.41800.qm@web39214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5lzN_.A.DTG.tdH0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:59:57 +0000 (UTC) --0-765309608-1204844396=:41800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit how'd ya tweek it mike? mike@michaelplishka.com wrote:. The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to get a cleaner sound --0-765309608-1204844396=:41800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit how'd ya tweek it mike?

mike@michaelplishka.com wrote:
. The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to
get a cleaner sound


--0-765309608-1204844396=:41800-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 23:34:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 828083BE8D; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080306183418.5LBA3.205531.root@fepweb14> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:34:18 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: oh...theres a tweek?!! Cc: K D Patten In-Reply-To: <852456.17542.qm@web39212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 23:34:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi there, It's not that we're ignoring you. It's probably just that the very few (relatively) Boomerang users on this l= ist are away . . . or suffering from similar problems. The one that I know about, Michael Klobuchar, hasn't posted in a really lon= g time. The folks from the company that make the boomerang used to post every now a= nd then . . . some years back. But it's been a while since I've read or heard from any of the regular Boom= erang users. I suppose the rest of us just don't consider ourselves "experts" enough on = that particular device to give an informed answer. I have used a Boomerang a time or two . . . they do have their quirks. Your problem doesn't sound like typical Boomerang behavior. Whatever noise it may generate should not be THAT extreme. Look through the LD archives and find the most recent active poster who men= tions the Boomerang as their main looper of choice. If you find one, email them directly. They may not be currently "listening in" to the stream of mail coming from = LD. Good luck! [BTW I'm and EDP user mostly and sometimes use a DD-20] Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- K D Patten wrote:=20 > how bought a response here guys?...Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:08 -0800 (PST)-= ---- Lurker surfacing with Boomerang head ache.........i know you guys hav= e probably dealt with this issue before but...how do you set a boomerang to= limit the background hiss?..I've tried putting an old rocktron micro hush = between the rang & the board ...the hiss is gone ..but total tone suck.....= any input?...thanks...kyle >=20 > Kyle Dean PattenP.O. Box 22Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/k= dpatten From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 00:45:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8FF43BE8E; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=6ZDg3oTTr+N25Aftl8mE3PME0gDwkWRJWO289ZdZN1IVLA/ljyd05EKVJQYnUqPi7Q7II900BwC8W7eTT0CGHvcYm+GZFqATL/j04ql4msGTDf0MXGgx3Z7p26UECTq91/+NejAC+TY97Y19KvSuBjlHTUKvXk99IKRv2NeWYz0=; X-YMail-OSG: 3YRsnfQVM1lvcAENjCF0RJC6R48BiW7btJ6i4MyCeYmKT9xxGfVe9hiY_mk.dRnmlzbE9btZWsuiIsFKOksf2Hc96otSmp55kR8L1BkYHfZeFHQ- Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 16:45:28 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Subject: check one, Daniel T. 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Promotions including recordings of past "live" radio recordings that were improvised on the spot with "live looping/phrase sampling" using a Boomerang Phrase Sampler/looper. For those not familiar with this technology I will try to briefly explain how this can be done. You play a guitar rhythm or riff, musical passage/phrase, rhythm from a drum machine, keyboard, anything from a microphones feed, computer, vocals, etc. etc.. Verse, Chorus, Verse or randomly generated noize for that matter and the Boomerang will immediately spit the sample back so you have an instantly generated loop to play along with or improvise too. You are the only one in control and it can get out of control with a slip of the foot real easy, so its a real balancing act... It is great fun and I highly recommend giving it a try, I love my boomerang and it is one of my secrets to getting good, real good at playing and performing with the guitar. My instrument of choice. 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Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 02:01:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC6D53BE8D; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 02:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:01:43 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001001c87ff6$3984dc70$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <373177.41800.qm@web39214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Cleaning the Rang-was Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:54:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C87FC3.EE921340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <25YzH.A.vED.IIK0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 02:01:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C87FC3.EE921340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was seriously tempted to do a hardware tweak and change capacitors to = polyester instead of electrolytic (which I think would be worth a try = regardless) but instead I always messed around with the gain and the = setting switch to get the best sound. I EQ and amplify a smidge coming = off the guitar so that helps prevent distortion as well. It also is IMPERATIVE to make sure there are no grounding issues. If = there is anything else powered in your setup, you can end up with = hissing noise from ground loops as well. I had extra wiring to make = sure I was grounded in my practice room and that was the only way to get = rid of the hiss. When I confronted the makers of it they recommended = your solution but I was worried about the tone being messed up as well. And finally, a cleaning of the innards seems to help. There is a knife edge where it seems the boomerang functions quietly and = wonderfully, and it seems that every day it's a new cutlery set.=20 That's why I'm an EDP guy. If they put a roller volume on the EDP and = made it for variable feedback it'd be AWESOME!=20 Hope this helps! Plish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: K D Patten=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping how'd ya tweek it mike? mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: . The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to get a cleaner sound=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C87FC3.EE921340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was seriously tempted to do a = hardware tweak and=20 change capacitors to polyester instead of electrolytic (which I think = would be=20 worth a try regardless) but instead I always messed = around with=20 the gain and the setting switch to get the best sound.  I EQ and = amplify a=20 smidge coming off the guitar so that helps prevent distortion as=20 well.
 
It also is IMPERATIVE to make sure = there are no=20 grounding issues.  If there is anything else powered in your setup, = you can=20 end up with hissing noise from ground loops as well.  I had extra = wiring to=20 make sure I was grounded in my practice room and that was the only way = to get=20 rid of the hiss.  When I confronted the makers of it they = recommended your=20 solution but I was worried about the tone being messed up as = well.
 
And finally, a cleaning of the innards = seems to=20 help.
 
There is a knife edge where it = seems the=20 boomerang functions quietly and wonderfully, and it seems that = every day=20 it's  a new cutlery set. 
 
That's why I'm an EDP guy.  If = they put a=20 roller volume on the EDP and made it for variable feedback it'd be=20 AWESOME! 
 
Hope this helps!
 
Plish
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 K D = Patten=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 = 4:59=20 PM
Subject: Re: What's the best = vocal looper=20 to buy for live looping

how'd ya tweek it mike?

mike@michaelplishka.com=20 wrote:
.=20 The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to
get a cleaner = sound=20


------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C87FC3.EE921340-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 06:28:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5FC63BE82; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 06:28:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 569 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:28:15 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAIhs0EfAqP4E/2dsb2JhbAClXIcK X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.5.2 at filter03.roch.ny.frontiernet.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Carlson Music Subject: RE: What's the best vocal looper to buy Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:18:43 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 06:28:15 +0000 (UTC) The EDP sounds interesting. I want to be able to record a whole song, part by part, and solo over it vocally - this could require at least four parts in at least three sections. Check out Vocaloop.com for a guy who is doing what I have in mind. What equipment do you think he is using? I can't tell from the videos, but it looks like he's got LOTS of pedals on the floor. Also on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtatKjDxEs And better yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l073tuzxoV0&feature=related (but skip to about 2:22 to hear the song I'm talking about. I won't tell you what song it is, but lets just say maybe in Scandinavia MJ is still PC.) So, would the 198 seconds in the EDP be enough to do what he is doing? is it expandable? It may be out of my price range for a first unit. I'd have to buy pedals for it too, right? Sweetwater lists it at $999. Michael C. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 08:05:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F10DE3BE82; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:05:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:thread-index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=FN2j38C7UFAstWzelYbXCd2Z4MrBSqz0jiU4LIPsxDOMChFwNrZV1t5Ng4Gnf3bMC5nQ8rOfd1sgnqAzNsH/Hf4Fft6lbarGza0CpKNpkCZW4GyR/PFrbkpLwgE6GG0dzYjSwV0scU4dsCWPqZGSvsKBZzfyrZgX8yvZa25S0eo= ; X-YMail-OSG: 6TMRGxUVM1n.78jCVuP8xyRAi28w4qxMiI9CkQbkZYIJlGA2JAMrJrLHoItUyOx7u3zC0Fun54t8Ve4v1TlLkxZlUHDNVLMhfjKENCJ185hieS4Gk2uC8tFId4s- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Andy Ewen" To: Subject: RE: What's the best vocal looper to buy Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:05:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 thread-index: AciAHG05yxd4T+96R12FLPAo4P1/fAADUjwg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> Message-Id: <20080307080539.587053BE7F@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:05:39 +0000 (UTC) 198 seconds is the max time for an EDP, it's already expanded from the original 12.5 seconds. Guitar Centre are selling them for $599 with the footcontroller: they can't be making anything on them at that price! http://www.guitarcenter.com/Gibson-TGE-05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE- 04-Footswitch-150497-i1389137.gc -----Original Message----- From: Michael Carlson Music [mailto:music@carlsonarts.com] Sent: 07 March 2008 06:19 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: What's the best vocal looper to buy The EDP sounds interesting. I want to be able to record a whole song, part by part, and solo over it vocally - this could require at least four parts in at least three sections. Check out Vocaloop.com for a guy who is doing what I have in mind. What equipment do you think he is using? I can't tell from the videos, but it looks like he's got LOTS of pedals on the floor. Also on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtatKjDxEs And better yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l073tuzxoV0&feature=related (but skip to about 2:22 to hear the song I'm talking about. I won't tell you what song it is, but lets just say maybe in Scandinavia MJ is still PC.) So, would the 198 seconds in the EDP be enough to do what he is doing? is it expandable? It may be out of my price range for a first unit. I'd have to buy pedals for it too, right? Sweetwater lists it at $999. Michael C. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1313 - Release Date: 05/03/2008 09:50 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.4/1313 - Release Date: 05/03/2008 09:50 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 08:44:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 913183BE87; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=f+wxHos4hpj02q1rcwcba22JeSOFcayj2sh8tn6LbGpvVBFG0vM2l/EizYi6cmqkVoCzzoKPj9PysygMOmFSl4vmh25yOq8QgzOamYjMEw9S9MTdUjP8MEpRqEE1Q/XeKsE2wtgGLJkUvF1yQrEqtACVzbtDXj9vj4Zb66HkY70=; X-YMail-OSG: CsvUbOAVM1lurv0AwyauHc_dS9JuNb7lv_56UUTbrUXWdXH_RfmY9235MHp902q3jQ-- Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:44:25 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: Cleaning the Rang-was Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001001c87ff6$3984dc70$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-319665227-1204879465=:97388" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <252346.97388.qm@web39205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2BCtED.A.kV.qBQ0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:44:26 +0000 (UTC) --0-319665227-1204879465=:97388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thank you for your response...i have another rang that i put in the chain same settings , same placement....no noise....i think i have a bum rang...guess may be I'm going to have to work on this one...thank for you input...kyle Michael Plishka wrote: I was seriously tempted to do a hardware tweak and change capacitors to polyester instead of electrolytic (which I think would be worth a try regardless) but instead I always messed around with the gain and the setting switch to get the best sound. I EQ and amplify a smidge coming off the guitar so that helps prevent distortion as well. It also is IMPERATIVE to make sure there are no grounding issues. If there is anything else powered in your setup, you can end up with hissing noise from ground loops as well. I had extra wiring to make sure I was grounded in my practice room and that was the only way to get rid of the hiss. When I confronted the makers of it they recommended your solution but I was worried about the tone being messed up as well. And finally, a cleaning of the innards seems to help. There is a knife edge where it seems the boomerang functions quietly and wonderfully, and it seems that every day it's a new cutlery set. That's why I'm an EDP guy. If they put a roller volume on the EDP and made it for variable feedback it'd be AWESOME! Hope this helps! Plish ----- Original Message ----- From: K D Patten To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping how'd ya tweek it mike? mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: . The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to get a cleaner sound --0-319665227-1204879465=:97388 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thank you for your response...i have another rang that i put in the chain same settings , same placement....no noise....i think i have a bum rang...guess may be I'm going to have to work on this one...thank for you input...kyle

Michael Plishka <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
I was seriously tempted to do a hardware tweak and change capacitors to polyester instead of electrolytic (which I think would be worth a try regardless) but instead I always messed around with the gain and the setting switch to get the best sound.  I EQ and amplify a smidge coming off the guitar so that helps prevent distortion as well.
 
It also is IMPERATIVE to make sure there are no grounding issues.  If there is anything else powered in your setup, you can end up with hissing noise from ground loops as well.  I had extra wiring to make sure I was grounded in my practice room and that was the only way to get rid of the hiss.  When I confronted the makers of it they recommended your solution but I was worried about the tone being messed up as well.
 
And finally, a cleaning of the innards seems to help.
 
There is a knife edge where it seems the boomerang functions quietly and wonderfully, and it seems that every day it's  a new cutlery set. 
 
That's why I'm an EDP guy.  If they put a roller volume on the EDP and made it for variable feedback it'd be AWESOME! 
 
Hope this helps!
 
Plish
----- Original Message -----
From: K D Patten
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping

how'd ya tweek it mike?

mike@michaelplishka.com wrote:
. The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to
get a cleaner sound



--0-319665227-1204879465=:97388-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 08:49:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D3963BE8A; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:49:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=DQ5MQCb5VCehGGw+/zuVJlZWmDVFynW1QOtW3Qb9OUbAmuJEmoYzQi4mH5JKaf/UtK5od7mnokAIObfK9yN2AzcLG6jA82j0dzISNOoclKDxVFPR7S9Fevv5tdnwKc1uCQj7cLn9e8ItDY108T0O2D2BV17FemvfkdeeuJR36P0=; X-YMail-OSG: JyunHecVM1lC_bgXoKiLWSVBLSJ7CYfwnZd6yH8L1lfBxn5mzX56KoBTQ9OLA9Aj_nlXtSt2HBby0jH8e2gVKq1ggMCbSbhrHbIRosIPDH5_YCvYqkM- Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 00:49:21 -0800 (PST) From: K D Patten Subject: Re: oh...theres a tweek?!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080306183418.5LBA3.205531.root@fepweb14> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-253359901-1204879761=:34217" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <647331.34217.qm@web39209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:49:23 +0000 (UTC) --0-253359901-1204879761=:34217 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks for your in put ted....i was beginning to think i wasn't getting through on the post...kyle tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: Hi there, It's not that we're ignoring you. It's probably just that the very few (relatively) Boomerang users on this list are away . . . or suffering from similar problems. The one that I know about, Michael Klobuchar, hasn't posted in a really long time. The folks from the company that make the boomerang used to post every now and then . . . some years back. But it's been a while since I've read or heard from any of the regular Boomerang users. I suppose the rest of us just don't consider ourselves "experts" enough on that particular device to give an informed answer. I have used a Boomerang a time or two . . . they do have their quirks. Your problem doesn't sound like typical Boomerang behavior. Whatever noise it may generate should not be THAT extreme. Look through the LD archives and find the most recent active poster who mentions the Boomerang as their main looper of choice. If you find one, email them directly. They may not be currently "listening in" to the stream of mail coming from LD. Good luck! [BTW I'm and EDP user mostly and sometimes use a DD-20] Cheers, tEd ® kiLLiAn http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- K D Patten wrote: > how bought a response here guys?...Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:08 -0800 (PST)----- Lurker surfacing with Boomerang head ache.........i know you guys have probably dealt with this issue before but...how do you set a boomerang to limit the background hiss?..I've tried putting an old rocktron micro hush between the rang & the board ...the hiss is gone ..but total tone suck.....any input?...thanks...kyle > > Kyle Dean PattenP.O. Box 22Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten --0-253359901-1204879761=:34217 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit thanks for your in put ted....i was beginning to think i wasn't getting through on the post...kyle

tEd ® kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Hi there,

It's not that we're ignoring you.

It's probably just that the very few (relatively) Boomerang users on this list are away . . . or suffering from similar problems.

The one that I know about, Michael Klobuchar, hasn't posted in a really long time.

The folks from the company that make the boomerang used to post every now and then . . . some years back.

But it's been a while since I've read or heard from any of the regular Boomerang users.

I suppose the rest of us just don't consider ourselves "experts" enough on that particular device to give an informed answer.

I have used a Boomerang a time or two . . . they do have their quirks.

Your problem doesn't sound like typical Boomerang behavior.

Whatever noise it may generate should not be THAT extreme.

Look through the LD archives and find the most recent active poster who mentions the Boomerang as their main looper of choice.

If you find one, email them directly.

They may not be currently "listening in" to the stream of mail coming from LD.

Good luck!

[BTW I'm and EDP user mostly and sometimes use a DD-20]

Cheers,

tEd ® kiLLiAn

http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar
http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian

Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076
Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm
And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian
And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4

http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html
http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian
http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html
http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193
http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121197000042
http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=18131

Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes

---- K D Patten wrote:
> how bought a response here guys?...Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:08 -0800 (PST)----- Lurker surfacing with Boomerang head ache.........i know you guys have probably dealt with this issue before but...how do you set a boomerang to limit the background hiss?..I've tried putting an old rocktron micro hush between the rang & the board ...the hiss is gone ..but total tone suck.....any input?...thanks...kyle
>
> Kyle Dean PattenP.O. Box 22Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten


--0-253359901-1204879761=:34217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 11:53:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEB253BE89; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 06:53:01 -0500 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: <7scGHB.A.A1E.gyS0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 11:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Keep in mind, you can't store audio on the EDP. Once you turn it off, its gone. I know you wanted a hardware box, but Ableton LIve would be far more powerful and easier to do what you want. On Mar 7, 2008, at 1:18 AM, Michael Carlson Music wrote: > The EDP sounds interesting. I want to be able to record a whole > song, part by part, and solo over it vocally - this could require at > least four parts in at least three sections. Check out Vocaloop.com > for a guy who is doing what I have in mind. What equipment do you > think he is using? I can't tell from the videos, but it looks like > he's got LOTS of pedals on the floor. > > Also on youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtatKjDxEs > > And better yet: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l073tuzxoV0&feature=related > (but skip to about 2:22 to hear the song I'm talking about. I won't > tell you what song it is, but lets just say maybe in Scandinavia MJ > is still PC.) > > So, would the 198 seconds in the EDP be enough to do what he is > doing? is it expandable? It may be out of my price range for a > first unit. I'd have to buy pedals for it too, right? Sweetwater > lists it at $999. > > Michael C. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 13:29:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 293EF3BE84; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 382 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:29:11 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_41e603df-6475-4b72-91ae-cba68b18e168_" X-Originating-IP: [76.187.246.141] From: jj 179 To: Subject: Easiest drum machine software Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:22:48 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2008 13:22:48.0973 (UTC) FILETIME=[56AC3BD0:01C88056] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:29:12 +0000 (UTC) --_41e603df-6475-4b72-91ae-cba68b18e168_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks, =20 I had been considering plunking down a coupla hundred bucks on a used Enson= iq or E-mu drum machine and it occurred to me that it might be cheaper to g= o the software route. For whatever reason I have a bit of a brain block whe= n it comes to programming synths, MIDI, and rhythms, so it will be an uphil= l battle I know. The drum machines I've been drawn to are those that allow = you hammer out rhythms on pads in real-time, so that you don't JUST have to= do it in step programming. Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are what I'm = looking for. =20 Any decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really don't hav= e the time/inclination to master a complicated software interface like a lo= t of the overall production systems - if there really is a dedicated drum m= achine program out there that's decent, i'd love to play with it. If it has= (or has access to) multiple decent drum libraries as well, that would be c= ool - or at least the ability to play wav samples.=20 =20 I do have an Akai MPD16 midi drum control pad thingie, so that should help. =20 Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine? =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_0120= 08= --_41e603df-6475-4b72-91ae-cba68b18e168_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks,
 
I had been considering plunking down a coupla hundred bucks on a used Enson= iq or E-mu drum machine and it occurred to me that it might be cheaper to g= o the software route. For whatever reason I have a bit of a brain block whe= n it comes to programming synths, MIDI, and rhythms, so it will be an uphil= l battle I know. The drum machines I've been drawn to are those that allow = you hammer out rhythms on pads in real-time, so that you don't JUST have to= do it in step programming. Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are what I'm = looking for.
 
Any decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really don't hav= e the time/inclination to master a complicated software interface like a lo= t of the overall production systems - if there really is a dedicated drum m= achine program out there that's decent, i'd love to play with it. If it has= (or has access to) multiple decent drum libraries as well, that would be c= ool - or at least the ability to play wav samples.
 
I do have an Akai MPD16 midi drum control pad thingie, so that should help.=
 
Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine?
 
 

Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! = --_41e603df-6475-4b72-91ae-cba68b18e168_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 14:06:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C704D3BE91; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:06:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: ImT2lMgVM1mP4DzsmqTGYFcWXRcwOoU8E0QmWDhO7ReGhGAmdoD8wrvRX6igtmXdgWsxSuFkW6NH8_QKOpLoOKpv1E.M96oASj_cYEquJgiz4srONenJ1aqLiX3M1y8- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <005b01c8805c$5f8c35b0$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:05:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8802A.14712400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:06:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8802A.14712400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check out PC Drummer. Easy to use, and it allows tweaking to give = variation to both hit and rhythm so it doesn't sound like a machine. It = can handle 24bit stuff, and you can use your own samples. You can then = save it as one wav file or as multiple wav files for each instrument in = your kit. http://www.pcdrummer.com/index.html ~Peace~ Plish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jj 179=20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:22 AM Subject: Easiest drum machine software Hey folks, =20 I had been considering plunking down a coupla hundred bucks on a used = Ensoniq or E-mu drum machine and it occurred to me that it might be = cheaper to go the software route. For whatever reason I have a bit of a = brain block when it comes to programming synths, MIDI, and rhythms, so = it will be an uphill battle I know. The drum machines I've been drawn to = are those that allow you hammer out rhythms on pads in real-time, so = that you don't JUST have to do it in step programming. = Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are what I'm looking for. =20 Any decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really = don't have the time/inclination to master a complicated software = interface like a lot of the overall production systems - if there really = is a dedicated drum machine program out there that's decent, i'd love to = play with it. If it has (or has access to) multiple decent drum = libraries as well, that would be cool - or at least the ability to play = wav samples.=20 =20 I do have an Akai MPD16 midi drum control pad thingie, so that should = help. =20 Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine? =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8802A.14712400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check out PC Drummer.  Easy to use, and it = allows=20 tweaking to give variation to both hit and rhythm so it doesn't sound = like a=20 machine. It can handle 24bit stuff, and you can use your own samples. = You can=20 then save it as one wav file or as multiple wav files for each = instrument in=20 your kit.
 
http://www.pcdrummer.com/ind= ex.html
 
~Peace~

Plish
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jj 179=20
To: loopers-delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 = 7:22=20 AM
Subject: Easiest drum machine=20 software

Hey folks,
 
I had been considering plunking = down a=20 coupla hundred bucks on a used Ensoniq or E-mu drum machine and it = occurred to=20 me that it might be cheaper to go the software route. For whatever = reason I=20 have a bit of a brain block when it comes to programming synths, MIDI, = and=20 rhythms, so it will be an uphill battle I know. The drum machines I've = been=20 drawn to are those that allow you hammer out rhythms on pads in = real-time, so=20 that you don't JUST have to do it in step programming.=20 Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are what I'm looking = for.
 
Any=20 decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really don't = have the=20 time/inclination to master a complicated software interface like a lot = of the=20 overall production systems - if there really is a dedicated drum = machine=20 program out there that's decent, i'd love to play with it. If it has = (or has=20 access to) multiple decent drum libraries as well, that would be cool = - or at=20 least the ability to play wav samples.
 
I do have an Akai = MPD16=20 midi drum control pad thingie, so that should help.
 
Any = thoughts=20 on a "for dummies" software drum machine?
 
 

Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C8802A.14712400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 14:06:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B32D3BEBA; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:06:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 910 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:06:28 UTC Message-Id: From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11--1042593327 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 07:51:13 -0600 References: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:06:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11--1042593327 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i dont about u guys. i own a rang, my 1st looper, then moved up to the edp. sweet! but, i got a Looperlative last yr and there really is no comparison. it it heads AND tails past everything else. took some doing to get out of my edp habits like having to hit the rec button TWICE or ull remain in overdub mode but that aside, ull be amazed. its EIGHT (8)... STEREO FOUR mins... of 24 bit recording my friend. u do understand that this means that it has 16 times the trks of the edp. my only gripe is the no undo thing but the maker is right. u have separate control of start and stop of 8 stereo trks. just stop the offending trk and rerecord it. id still prefer an undo though. i feel naked onstage without it. i do screw up sometimes. (like left it in overdub for the last 4 passes like an idiot). plus, whatever u could conceive, just write to the maker and he will implement it in the next update which, by the way, is the easiest thing to do. u plug in ur cat5 cable, set the menu to update, press enter. in mins, u have the new software. as i said NO comparison. --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Thursday6,Mar 2008, at 12:46 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Welcome Michael C! > > I'm sure others will chime in but alot of live vocal looping is > dependent > on how your system is wired. I've done vocal looping with a Boomerang > Live and now I use an EDP. The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak > it to > get a cleaner sound and I didn't like the amount the vocals were > attenuated on successive loops. > > The EDP is much more flexible live and you can lay down multiple > patterns. > I love it for live and studio work. Now the boomerang is just a > backup. > > I don't use my vocal mic for vocal looping (though I toyed with > modifying > my system to do that a half year back.) I use the mic in my guitar. > Kinda > cooler for stage use. > > You can hear some of the stuff done in one take using this setup at > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich . I prety much do these songs live just > like > they are here-the EDP makes it easy to do > > That's my two cents-I'm sure you'll get your money's worth here. > > Welcome aboard! > > ~peace~ > > Plish > www.michaelplishka.com > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > >> Hello everyone, I have just joined the email list, but I'm really >> exciting about using a looper in live performance. I remember seeing >> Phil Keaggy (a guitarist) using one like, 20 years ago, and I was >> blown away. >> ~snip~ > --Apple-Mail-11--1042593327 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i dont about u guys.
i own = a rang, my 1st looper, then moved up to the = edp.
sweet!

but, i got a Looperlative = last yr and there really is no comparison. it it heads AND tails past = everything else.
took some doing to get out of my edp habits = like having to hit the rec button TWICE or ull remain in overdub mode = but that aside, ull be amazed.

its EIGHT = (8)...
STEREO
FOUR = mins...
of 24 bit recording
my = friend.

u do = understand that this means that it has 16 times the trks of the = edp.
my only gripe is the no undo thing but the maker is = right. u have separate control of start and stop of 8 stereo trks. just = stop the offending trk and rerecord it.
id still prefer an = undo though. i feel naked onstage without it. i do screw up = sometimes.
(like left it in overdub for the last 4 passes like = an idiot).

plus, whatever u could = conceive, just write to the maker and he will implement it in the next = update which, by the way, is the easiest thing to do. u plug in ur cat5 = cable, set the menu to update, press enter. in mins, u have the new = software.

as = i said NO comparison.

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Thursday6,Mar = 2008, at 12:46 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com = wrote:

Welcome Michael C!

I'm sure others will chime in = but alot of live vocal looping is dependent
on how your system is = wired.  I've done vocal looping with a Boomerang
Live and now I = use an EDP. The boomerang was cool but I had to tweak it to
get a = cleaner sound and I didn't like the amount the vocals were
attenuated = on successive loops.

The EDP is much more flexible live and you = can lay down multiple patterns.
I love it for live and studio work. =  Now the boomerang is just a backup.

I don't use my vocal = mic for vocal looping (though I toyed with modifying
my system to do = that a half year back.) I use the mic in my guitar. =  Kinda
cooler for stage use.

You can hear some of the = stuff done in one take using this setup at
www.myspace.com/bohdanovich . I prety much do these songs live just like
they are here-the EDP = makes it easy to do

That's my two cents-I'm sure you'll get your = money's worth here.

Welcome = aboard!

~peace~

Plish
www.michaelplishka.com
www.m= yspace.com/michaelplishka
www.myspace.com/bohdanovich

Hello everyone, I have just joined the email list, but = I'm really
exciting about = using a looper in live performance.  I remember = seeing
Phil Keaggy (a = guitarist) using one like, 20 years ago, and I = was
blown = away.
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= --Apple-Mail-11--1042593327-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 14:35:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3863E3BE8A; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:33:58 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #570 for March 6, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47D15256.6060809@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:35:29 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080306.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #570 March 6, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Gert Emmens. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Waves of Dreams" on Groove Unlimited records. I also played music by Xeroid Entity, one of the groups playing at the Electro-Music Orchestra concert at the David Sarnoff Library on March 15th. Details are found on the events page. Gert Emmens: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#mar Events Page: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Xeroid Entity Adrift Live at the Deer Head Inn (electro-music) Arcane Aftermath Pulse (none) Mark Zaki Strange Lines and Strange Lines and Distances Distances (none) Ricochet Musicians Electric Peak Yellowstone 2007 (Ricochet Dream) Gert Emmens After the Rain Waves of Dreams (Groove) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Gert Emmens Another Time, Waves of Dreams (Groove) Another Space Gert Emmens Waves of Dreams Waves of Dreams (Groove) Gert Emmens Dawn Waves of Dreams (Groove) Gert Emmens Heading Towards Waves of Dreams (Groove) Unknown Destinations Gert Emmens Bright Spot On a Waves of Dreams (Groove) Grey Day 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Gert Emmens. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "When Darkness Falls Upon the Earth" on Groove Unlimited records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 15:03:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C60783BE8A; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Easiest drum machine software Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:03:34 +0100 Message-ID: <003601c88064$6b348c70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8806C.CCF8F470" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciAXZFN3/q+fujbSlGkxblWonEfwQABbjPQ In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:03:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8806C.CCF8F470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine? Not exactly what you're looking for but be sure to check out the Steinberg Grooveagent - it has a cool user interface that allows you to intuitively choose from many nice prefabricated rhythms which can be randomized and modified in various ways. Something for dummies such as myself. I was too lazy to program drum rhythms and instead used several highly randomized Grooveagent rhythms in my latest guitar livelooping experiments - go to www.michaelpeters.de/livelooping2007.htm and listen to the three Norwich sets. I didn't want to take a computer on stage so I recorded several minutes of each of these rhythms and fed them into a loop from a CD player, directly overdubbing bass, and I had my backing band playing along in no time :-) -Michael ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8806C.CCF8F470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>=20 Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum = machine? 
 
Not=20 exactly what you're looking for but be sure to check out the Steinberg=20 Grooveagent - it has a cool user interface that allows you to = intuitively=20 choose from many nice prefabricated rhythms which=20 can be randomized and modified in various ways. Something for dummies = such as=20 myself. I was too lazy to program drum rhythms and instead used several = highly=20 randomized Grooveagent rhythms in my latest guitar livelooping = experiments=20 - go to www.michaelpeter= s.de/livelooping2007.htm=20 and listen to the three Norwich sets. I didn't want to take a computer = on stage=20 so I recorded several minutes of each of these rhythms and fed them into = a loop=20 from a CD player, directly overdubbing bass, and I had my backing band = playing=20 along in no time  :-)
 
 
 
-Michael
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C8806C.CCF8F470-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 15:11:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D3C43BE89; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rdQP7tsta8tmbf+d4PBfpGK722rAHXgu6BVZJ9pkiZc=; b=AOSwA5NjMjwGp1uXIvCDOPGABBOOn8NB2pFx82rlXkB0sJPcEWCJzn294Xhve2LyImrLnS4bZOb5EUG88otDfqWHV6iWWGZayyeoHj/0K7ryJBfvBkX1NQ7D+5M1FL4aEQBnXKuAFlq20GaoJVMPZjHx/b/G55niwx816R0WFTY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UI3n5WLsagL+bhOrqevq0f9OqnoOaGDMrbTL1LOO4IA4gmEVy1XhGGD8yf+Oe/B4ShFLXM3m6hiPhEpYWWvFnMCO0ky6Ov/rE/v7PzzTMQH3nXuAOiWwQH177H5jB61jiLjL2TRVe8S4ovgK7S7pWJSzSzF+KLqPXWnF/GzMf60= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:11:08 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7auYIC.A.eZH.QsV0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:11:12 +0000 (UTC) For dead easy try Hammerhead. http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/ The guy who wrote that (Bram Bos) also has two other drum with sequencer programs Tuareg and TunaFish. Both are really easy and really cool. Tuna can use VSTs and both will use samples so you can have any sounds you want. www.brambos.com They do not, however, let you input in realtime. I've also used DrumFlow, but that's for creating MIDI drum patterns and I use it to import stuff to Sonar. On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:22 AM, jj 179 wrote: > > Hey folks, > > I had been considering plunking down a coupla hundred bucks on a used > Ensoniq or E-mu drum machine and it occurred to me that it might be cheaper > to go the software route. For whatever reason I have a bit of a brain block > when it comes to programming synths, MIDI, and rhythms, so it will be an > uphill battle I know. The drum machines I've been drawn to are those that > allow you hammer out rhythms on pads in real-time, so that you don't JUST > have to do it in step programming. Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are > what I'm looking for. > > Any decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really don't > have the time/inclination to master a complicated software interface like a > lot of the overall production systems - if there really is a dedicated drum > machine program out there that's decent, i'd love to play with it. If it has > (or has access to) multiple decent drum libraries as well, that would be > cool - or at least the ability to play wav samples. > > I do have an Akai MPD16 midi drum control pad thingie, so that should help. > > Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine? > > > > ________________________________ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 15:12:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B2E63BEA4; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=aSwYqLk3dYZY7WIy9pwqMnuMRoVQhm6YX+gCaL/9+LA=; b=JSZFCg5UkNov1vkxdr/duLoWiIE4sdF2JDcf80wT0QyIckbXTRbtC+SLxonEz6S4f58ceS4qmAMRXQH9URFdgrnHaG6VZy34lQZ2Pqgaf2aTzezZ26mam4efPFOxV2DIkh32fSgBB1q7WkgJGU0QguhlBQjEmRlOhvk3gJtG1uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Mx6yy1BIntX/rkXvQRoImlTYbj4PNZz7IYJB8Q55YM+bXG/pEOEfCG61Yif9Cigf1BnkRETZq0m5C23hpXf48BHlQEzk49mBdaT5BIQfytdJyt3Nlh9QzZL6Lqa/p6mJ6BOjkNoOx/GDmKFCBSu1a4b2u5QgMksCsSa/uoi5IMw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803070712r2ec21ff6xaea6497959f5c7c5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:12:54 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" Reply-To: per@boysen.se Sender: perboysen@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: EDP incoming MIDI Clock filtering options? In-Reply-To: <95E6C658-0945-4A91-B359-1E885584BBA4@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47D14B28.9070202@tiscali.co.uk> <95E6C658-0945-4A91-B359-1E885584BBA4@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ef7b7bb641c60d19 Resent-Message-ID: <4kbpCC.A.4eH.4tV0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:12:56 +0000 (UTC) You're right Matthias, this should be discussed on the looping list - so we're answering there now. You're probably right that Samuel's EDP loses slave sync while in Overdub Mode. I remember Jeff was talking about this on the Mobiuse list too; that the audio engine must be somewhat "free-wheeling" in regards to the incoming sync signal while in overdub mode. They are playing against a master sync that goes in 120 BPM and for some songs the half tempo locally, meaning that each player "thinks" 60 BPM while playing. Don't worry. I think it might be the feedback or overdub thing... We just discovered that his FCB pedal not always goes back to maximum MICI CC# sent (value 127). This means that his feedback is active and as I understand it - syncing is made impossible? Per (and Samuel Andersson) On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > Per, > > > On 7 Mar 2008, at 11:03, andy butler wrote: > > > Hi Per, I don't think the EdP can do the the filtering, > > but I haven't midi-synced since we all played together at Mathon > > .... let's ask the experts ;-) > > > > > > Maybe the problem is that he's pressing Rec in the wrong place. > > Or needs to use Quantise (but I'm not sure about that at all) > > > > andy > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: EDP incoming MIDI Clock filtering options? > > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:26:24 +0100 > > From: Per Boysen > > To: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > > > > Hi Andy, > > > > A friend is playing with a cirkus and he is starting to get the > > shivers these days because more music with this Cirkus tends to rely > > on his EDP and it sometimes loses sync with the Akai MPC1000 he uses > > as the master. > > the moments it syncs are visible as a dot of the display. so he will > have to observe what he does then. > I suspect either overdub is on or fb is reduced, as long as the loop > changes it cannot sync > > > > Another problem, that occur at a different event, is that the EDP > > "places the start point at the wrong part of the cycle". In this > > project they run the master clock at 120 BPM but for different parts > > of the piece the musicians play half that tempo (meaning 60 BPM) and > > sometimes they play two thirds tempo (90 BPM). > > there is a function to move the start point > and to select the speed in relation to the master > but 2/3 of the tempo ?? > > > > My advice, based on "that's what I would have done in Bidule", is to > > filter out the SongStart command and bar position data from the master > > MIDI Clock signal. Now, the question for you: Do the EDP have a way of > > filtering out that? > > I dont think it watches that if you dont want to. you can start Record > anytime and it will use that as beat one and round to the full tempo > and go on in that pattern... > > So I pretty much agree with Andys analysis :-) > > shouldnt this talk happen on LD or a more specific forum? > > and maybe with the person who has the problem? > > greetings from Brasil > Matthias > > > > > > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 15:34:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 154433BE92; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hfrZgGFTW4g+YCk89Il9fREcDk0Jphg60ZO1FmgdYBg=; b=eStH2nECKQ6og+nBdd6sWdtlB+6GHXVwLSSPhr3bvaw2aCaG9CsA7wJfT1yTXeIfv7nV3QbVQFgBKmOD4ydPqt/kH9QfVLF4BRCB9RhLzwVvxvvUK9GAfvnab3N7ebBAUmDjt/oraOLsNJAzhUhD0DeFs6Pt8hPUH7Z17KMgycE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MVQuRnyY4EIRVxCtqmvNZJKeWdapHXQLCVDj+1QGu5KDDuFETtxasdFMp/xb9j+IDPJmwemNxZkt3gNHG6WEBzK4m1gqXKDXbs4RWfVZBnR5NAQl3WVbpTvYm4Qb0r14mkrht8Nv0U2ijkpIJs9q5wXumcNu2vXsOapUk61jQxY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 07:34:34 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_36478_10751486.1204904074670" References: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:34:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_36478_10751486.1204904074670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Why not ask for Undo to be implemented then? TH On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Adrian Bartholomew wrote: > > > plus, whatever u could conceive, just write to the maker and he will > implement it in the next update > ------=_Part_36478_10751486.1204904074670 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Why not ask for Undo to be implemented then?

TH

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Adrian Bartholomew <adrian@bartholomusic.com> wrote:


plus, whatever u could conceive, just write to the maker and he will implement it in the next update

------=_Part_36478_10751486.1204904074670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 15:35:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70C2E3BEB9; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <27159.167.83.10.20.1204904120.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <003601c88064$6b348c70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <003601c88064$6b348c70$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:35:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: Easiest drum machine software From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:35:26 +0000 (UTC) Michael, Does the groove agent export WAV files of the tracks or do you have to go OUT Of the computer into your recorder? Plish >> Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine? > > > Not exactly what you're looking for but be sure to check out the Steinberg > Grooveagent - it has a cool user interface that allows you to intuitively > choose from many nice prefabricated rhythms which can be randomized and > modified in various ways. Something for dummies such as myself. I was too > lazy to program drum rhythms and instead used several highly randomized > Grooveagent rhythms in my latest guitar livelooping experiments - go to > www.michaelpeters.de/livelooping2007.htm and listen to the three Norwich > sets. I didn't want to take a computer on stage so I recorded several > minutes of each of these rhythms and fed them into a loop from a CD > player, > directly overdubbing bass, and I had my backing band playing along in no > time :-) > > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 15:45:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9424C3BE93; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <071c01c8806a$506eb360$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 07:45:47 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:45:53 +0000 (UTC) > Why not ask for Undo to be implemented then? It has been asked for and it is my current software project that I'm working on. -Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 16:43:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B3AA3BE89; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=sprynet.com; b=E+peGwaLSnEIRC7avGHRomd/p6kWikJzGtKUYMBmm+cavXcSw0UhrAERSsPXhxdS; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Reply-To: From: "Brad's Mail" To: Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:43:29 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: 5845cf3728b4ed5d1745d4e921052fe1faef81d128501e5d4f1e7cd1113b3b736c96ea2c72376bda3e50869f579b4432350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.245.27.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) I like software by Bram Bos. He has several including a free drum software called Lunchbox that WON'T do what you ask (play individual drums on pads) that I know of but you can get very creative results either leaving it to run itself or manipulating on a live recording drum track session. I did this for drums the other day on this recording (the effects were added in a mixdown): http://www.archive.org/download/MoreSketches/WhereDidYouGetThis.mp3 Another free drum software that I like alot but WON'T (sorry) do the pad input thing is de la Mancha's Erratic Drummer. Really nice probability engine, good spontaneous results. Used it recently on this one (caution - loud and bright): http://negation.hoster905.com/negations/cone/index.php?act=attach&type=post& id=528 Newbie Brad No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1316 - Release Date: 3/6/2008 6:58 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 17:18:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 652FE3BEA0; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:18:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--1030170698 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:18:15 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:18:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--1030170698 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Spectrasonics RMX is amazing and very easy to use. On Mar 7, 2008, at 8:22 AM, jj 179 wrote: > Hey folks, > > I had been considering plunking down a coupla hundred bucks on a > used Ensoniq or E-mu drum machine and it occurred to me that it > might be cheaper to go the software route. For whatever reason I > have a bit of a brain block when it comes to programming synths, > MIDI, and rhythms, so it will be an uphill battle I know. The drum > machines I've been drawn to are those that allow you hammer out > rhythms on pads in real-time, so that you don't JUST have to do it > in step programming. Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are what I'm > looking for. > > Any decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really > don't have the time/inclination to master a complicated software > interface like a lot of the overall production systems - if there > really is a dedicated drum machine program out there that's decent, > i'd love to play with it. If it has (or has access to) multiple > decent drum libraries as well, that would be cool - or at least the > ability to play wav samples. > > I do have an Akai MPD16 midi drum control pad thingie, so that > should help. > > Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine? > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! --Apple-Mail-1--1030170698 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Spectrasonics RMX is amazing and very easy to use.=A0
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I had been = considering plunking down a coupla hundred bucks on a used Ensoniq or = E-mu drum machine and it occurred to me that it might be cheaper to go = the software route. For whatever reason I have a bit of a brain block = when it comes to programming synths, MIDI, and rhythms, so it will be an = uphill battle I know. The drum machines I've been drawn to are those = that allow you hammer out rhythms on pads in real-time, so that you = don't JUST have to do it in step programming. = Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are what I'm looking for.
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Any = decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really don't have = the time/inclination to master a complicated software interface like a = lot of the overall production systems - if there really is a dedicated = drum machine program out there that's decent, i'd love to play with it. = If it has (or has access to) multiple decent drum libraries as well, = that would be cool - or at least the ability to play wav samples.=A0
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I do have an Akai = MPD16 midi drum control pad thingie, so that should help.
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Any = thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum = machine?
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Connect and share in new ways with = Windows Live.=A0Get it = now!

= --Apple-Mail-1--1030170698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 17:21:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31DD83BEA0; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=uuQpxlXoMHVZOKXjF3BVi5mR/p31FVkKHOKTrznfLow=; b=o4SxQr4F/AQChIWxyHP1NDARi/lsPKFFLaOIyn8ZhL0emF/BpaR+Hibg4ztRzdxgCSjznwNC7m7FFpo2D+PqQ00o5lCcQZtilNlL37Z3EiKNl8Ny1ixfEAZe3Fs6CbpMmaWI6H4sigIrasuuuqiixNzVx1nJv5EE6XDP44xhG+s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s14FDap8PN1tlCYUtKn1vwFffDMYUARqoFIF//M39fORnyeUY0AjgiwkBSC4AxIYTzyhsDEzw6wuO6kW4DacFGwyLirAiF2zUt+5qlJqMxR8SrjUO+BlaiU1Ljc3rfHgTF6LdNbZcVyz+2e1ezDPsvXgIQGIxUF1A51Pfa7Lsq4= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:21:34 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:21:37 +0000 (UTC) If you are leaning in that direction (RMX) check out EZDrummer too. Very cool. But it's not quite like a drum machine. On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Spectrasonics RMX is amazing and very easy to use. > > > > On Mar 7, 2008, at 8:22 AM, jj 179 wrote: > Hey folks, > > I had been considering plunking down a coupla hundred bucks on a used > Ensoniq or E-mu drum machine and it occurred to me that it might be cheaper > to go the software route. For whatever reason I have a bit of a brain block > when it comes to programming synths, MIDI, and rhythms, so it will be an > uphill battle I know. The drum machines I've been drawn to are those that > allow you hammer out rhythms on pads in real-time, so that you don't JUST > have to do it in step programming. Trance/dance/techno/breakbeat etc are > what I'm looking for. > > Any decent software packages out there focused on drums? I really don't have > the time/inclination to master a complicated software interface like a lot > of the overall production systems - if there really is a dedicated drum > machine program out there that's decent, i'd love to play with it. If it has > (or has access to) multiple decent drum libraries as well, that would be > cool - or at least the ability to play wav samples. > > I do have an Akai MPD16 midi drum control pad thingie, so that should help. > > Any thoughts on a "for dummies" software drum machine? > > > > ________________________________ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 17:23:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D406E3BEAF; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=P0VQDl3EWntpNiuk6qEoDhEYlBIkfoVCoELcgnHVFbs=; b=Z7TUWmWBC+UX0B48aJL15JjwCnQpEGnpOn6UlK67ZbOI1cyls5ruXBX7PsF1v0Tqs9UHm9Qu7TzA+2ecJkEFhNcyZ6kaPIZagDTB3bfw0tpy4+mWIBsYtWCLkQUnwlcsbDyK+iRZAF3BKJVQ5ZZ9aso1vlmR8D0KWsJD2clqTz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=spjkpC6erfdh081gM5Ln3kqloq9jMSehPTv+6rpUUM3UwxROUFanYHfFCHFnvQrvQ+cHShbuxjWn+QMiQoYVUSS8ktcevsjHMHD4CQAj05SkFOfFHX5aMf7XsyKnCe0u4TpHftUQBK+6Z857kDP6kWqpx/Uf2CSH/I9oYTI0Cxg= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:23:13 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: loopers-delight Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Ah, I forgot about Lunchbox. That's way fun. http://rekkerd.org/kvr-dc-bram-bos-lunchbox-battles/ On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Brad's Mail wrote: > I like software by Bram Bos. He has several including a free drum software > called Lunchbox that WON'T do what you ask (play individual drums on pads) > that I know of but you can get very creative results either leaving it to > run itself or manipulating on a live recording drum track session. I did > this for drums the other day on this recording (the effects were added in a > mixdown): > http://www.archive.org/download/MoreSketches/WhereDidYouGetThis.mp3 Another > free drum software that I like alot but WON'T (sorry) do the pad input thing > is de la Mancha's Erratic Drummer. Really nice probability engine, good > spontaneous results. Used it recently on this one (caution - loud and > bright): > http://negation.hoster905.com/negations/cone/index.php?act=attach&type=post& > id=528 > Newbie Brad > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1316 - Release Date: 3/6/2008 > 6:58 PM > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 17:33:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E20D3BEA9; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:33:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <20080307140615.40B723BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5.1 January 21, 2004 Message-ID: From: peter.leinhos@farmersinsurance.com Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 09:22:33 -0800 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on USWNH021/USW/Zurich-Internet(Release 6.5.2|June 01, 2004) at 03/07/2008 11:22:51 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 17:33:39 +0000 (UTC) unsubscribe Thanks you Peter A. 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------=_Part_37809_17976366.1204916492108-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 19:37:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49BEB3BE89; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:37:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=mqK8W2J7VVKS2vTHqsoH0xBgupuRvT/feteiF9JIn24=; b=WZQNfokQvldMLqASrDlt69Djpcoa9gRQ8aIxEBR4ek2LnUvAgV0VehVG0UN09A4Cswnor8FMCS/p/DB5KQOYlsqzAA8o0dbqNlILX70SQYs/k22VVXE6LpsY6EG/SVyorHwE9XG5aCahGb7IBsWcMrPShMkB4rrW97qtcxzCDbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=E5otrt/HGDGAaftnxU6Ku8pb6qRZ0TblKXfbzt1o6IzGdoj0De6zwdn37G+DkoNHDFp9OITGAlQEFDPJOPLaKqIPP6MNspR8dfhJh+PTw8kmA5RikAryf6SqYIbmLCooA0HBbFEfHhb152vnlSfBA3TLsupuqhhj+CD6LOtlcgI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:37:31 -0500 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New EDPs + footcontrollers on MF - $600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30091_21052481.1204918651541" Resent-Message-ID: <9h4-PD.A.TbF.9lZ0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:37:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30091_21052481.1204918651541 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just thought I'd send out a note for anyone looking for a first or second EDP - musiciansfriend is selling them new plus the footcontroller for $600 right now... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497&src=3WDTWXX&ZYXSEM=0 ------=_Part_30091_21052481.1204918651541 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Just thought I'd send out a note for anyone looking for a first or second EDP - musiciansfriend is selling them new plus the footcontroller for $600 right now...
 
 
 
------=_Part_30091_21052481.1204918651541-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 20:41:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 346FB3BE82; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:41:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=nor/SzkQvhCmqC7ZMpYNAL3Lxm9Er5VbG0HKc4wNlNk=; b=m8g4Qv3gbf0mvGtDh83NrN0wR3ZDEyyHr5Iuo9s2vN4WygqQHaAaNCGo0QPQynbYxtfnUJ9CphgHZsj2zAAU+VPxfcWjXseVh6SWDTNG5wdgCA5Ir8UE6JyiL9xfjeynsLL5MJo3fa+imDLwUoQxlxkadJGArvQBpIr0w7d3ZkQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=OzsFKa73yXmZ7QMMwQynF+XhPgZlRMV23FxPcweOM4nxjEcxg/BSqffZ26lFDvlKBqn0y1VHE2/djWLsScYQDjd0XufonIU3ve0mqWQS/m9/g9uY+6JY9y1djeWkv3EYZFspwieTu2Xu4OnqtT4jAQwu8Wep4OMnYrISGxiQGDw= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:41:27 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> <47CEED3A.40706@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:41:30 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to add that Daryl does an excellent job with his reviews. Much appreciated! RE: RPM. I didn't do the RPM, but I did the National Solo Album in a Month in 2006. Here's a link to the songs for anybody interested. http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/cycle.htm Lots of looping spacey droney synth stuff. Enjoy. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 8:17 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > Oh my. Daryl - that's so very nice of you! > > The review is very well written, and I agree with everything you said. > What a rarity when it comes to reviews. :) > > My sincere thanks for taking the time to listen closely and to share > your thoughts. I feel kind of humbled by it. The RPM challenge was a > good exercise for me, as I needed to stop the endless noodling and > improv-ing and actually capture some of my ideas. Before it was over, > it turned into a minor obsession, and when it was done I was just glad > to BE done. I'm so genuinely happy that at least one other person was > able to see/hear/feel what I was doing and that it brought you some > pleasure. > > Simply - thank you, Daryl. > > Doug > > PS - I'd like to link to the review from my blog. I assume that's ok > with you. If there's an issue, please let me know. > > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > My pleasure. I've posted a full review here: > > > > http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Uncle_Dig.htm > > > > I'm going to be trying to crank these out more often as I have a backlog > > already (Rainer's latest is next, and Nick Robinson's "Birds" project, > > followed by other RPM albums) and I know it's nice to get a review > > within the same year or release, if not better. > > > > Doug, let me know if there are any other links (such as the URL of the > > zip file) you'd like me to add to the review. > > > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > > > > > Daryl, > > > > > > Thanks so much! I am kind of a sick puppy. :blush: > > > > > > I apologize - I gave the link to my gear clips site. The link to my > > > blog that says a little more about the record is here: > > > > > > http://www.uncledig.com/blog/ > > > > > > and in the spirit of requested spam :) you can also look at > > > http://www.virb.com/uncledig/ > > > > > > I haven't said a lot about process in either of those places, so if > > > you're interested in that please give me a shout offline and we can > > > discuss without being too off topic here. > > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 20:51:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB20A3BE8C; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:51:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 693633236/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.149.147 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.149.147 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApYBAO420UdPSpWT/2dsb2JhbAAIrFGCGQ Message-ID: <47D1AAD2.7030304@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:51:30 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Per Boysen , LD Subject: Re: [Fwd: EDP incoming MIDI Clock filtering options?] References: <47D14B28.9070202@tiscali.co.uk> <66f9cc1e0803070652i1d2eae53l9b0db71c72112854@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803070652i1d2eae53l9b0db71c72112854@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_nEJb.A.yOH.Rra0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:51:29 +0000 (UTC) well...um....what Matthias said :-) no sync in OD the thing about StartPoint being in the wrong place is more mysterious though. 1) when OD ends there's an auto-startpoint as sync is regained. 2) if the StartPoint was "wrong" from the first loop, it wouldn't show up until you tried to Restart. That's why I think either hit Rec at exact place when making the first loop, or use Quantise( but I'm not sure if you can quantise the start or recording to incoming MIDI). andy Per Boysen wrote: > Well, the problem is not his actions and button pressing... Even when > he is doing nothing but letting the EDP play a loop it suddenly goes > OUT OF SYNC. What do you get from that, Andy? > > Per > (+ Samuel) > > > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:03 PM, andy butler wrote: >> Hi Per, I don't think the EdP can do the the filtering, >> but I haven't midi-synced since we all played together at Mathon >> .... let's ask the experts ;-) >> >> >> Maybe the problem is that he's pressing Rec in the wrong place. >> Or needs to use Quantise (but I'm not sure about that at all) >> >> andy >> >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: EDP incoming MIDI Clock filtering options? >> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:26:24 +0100 >> From: Per Boysen >> To: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk >> >> Hi Andy, >> >> A friend is playing with a cirkus and he is starting to get the >> shivers these days because more music with this Cirkus tends to rely >> on his EDP and it sometimes loses sync with the Akai MPC1000 he uses >> as the master. >> >> Another problem, that occur at a different event, is that the EDP >> "places the start point at the wrong part of the cycle". In this >> project they run the master clock at 120 BPM but for different parts >> of the piece the musicians play half that tempo (meaning 60 BPM) and >> sometimes they play two thirds tempo (90 BPM). >> >> My advice, based on "that's what I would have done in Bidule", is to >> filter out the SongStart command and bar position data from the master >> MIDI Clock signal. Now, the question for you: Do the EDP have a way of >> filtering out that? >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 22:37:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 432BC3BE87; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:37:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4621 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:37:08 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 13:07:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: New EDPs + footcontrollers on MF - $600 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1007197690==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:37:09 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1007197690==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Thanks for the news - I ordered one! At 2:37 PM -0500 3/7/08, radio radio wrote: >Just thought I'd send out a note for anyone looking for a first or >second EDP - musiciansfriend is selling them new plus the >footcontroller for $600 right now... > >http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497&src=3WDTWXX&ZYXSEM=0 > > -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com --============_-1007197690==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: New EDPs + footcontrollers on MF - $600


Thanks for the news - I ordered one!



At 2:37 PM -0500 3/7/08, radio radio wrote:
Just thought I'd send out a note for anyone looking for a first or second EDP - musiciansfriend is selling them new plus the footcontroller for $600 right now...
 
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497&src=3WDTWXX&ZYXSEM=0
 
 


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Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
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--============_-1007197690==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 7 22:43:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9A63BE8C; Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:43:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ZCjai3a1UP0WjdpfCVQ/YHNKNHvs9r1yzrWm1oM1sYxHQwoTRoOqMoEkhP7kJkrO; h=Received:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <627A035A-28C2-4A79-81D1-D49FFBA50BEF@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Coffin Subject: Some impressive VG-99 demos Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:43:10 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7980cc1a801e5971b68bb0fe0750f78283350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.48.174 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 22:43:14 +0000 (UTC) No explicit looping content here, but certainly some food for thought =20= if you=92re interested in guitar processors. Bill is posting these =20 audio demos to the VG forums; he's apparently a studio pro, and =20 obviously an accomplished VG tweeter and player. Enjoy all 11 tracks: http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=3D781088&content=3Dmusi= c best, dc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 03:36:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB5063BE81; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:36:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_afd982be-2f76-45f9-b105-46367c5ee556_" X-Originating-IP: [213.249.245.1] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: What's the best vocal looper to buy Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:36:18 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2008 03:36:18.0451 (UTC) FILETIME=[91E67630:01C880CD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:36:19 +0000 (UTC) --_afd982be-2f76-45f9-b105-46367c5ee556_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi there, =20 i have watched this clip closley and heres what i see is going on =20 it looks at though he is using a behringer fcb1010 to me, this is a midi co= ntroller that is used to control midi equipment , these include both rack m= ounted gear and software so its hard to tell which....however a lot can be = gleaned form how he builds up the song.... =20 element one....this is the drum/rhythem elements....these are laied down fi= rst and then put in a safe place to come back to (THIS TELLS US THE LOOPER = IS CAPABLE OF MULTIPLE TRACKS) =20 element two...the Do Doo but...this is added to join in with the original d= rum loop and sits either beside or on top of it, never alone...it is one ve= rsion of Do Doo that is then pitch shifted up at will by sending a commant = via midi to the looper...the drum track doesnt appear to be affected and th= e track doesnt speed up...again this give me a strong clue as to what the l= ooper is(I AM THINKING THE ONLY HARDWARE AVAILABLE TO DO THIS IS THE REPEAT= ER AND POSSIBLY THE LOOPERLATIVE WHICH I HAVENT USED, THE REPEATER WOULD TA= KE TIME TO MOVE THIS TRACK UP SO I FEEL I CAN RULE THIS OUT, THE OTHER OPTI= ON IS THAT THE MIDI PEDAL IS CONTROLLING A SOFTWARE LOOPER BUT I COULDNT CO= MMENT ON WHICH AS THAT IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTIESE) ps not shouting, just = trying to seperate conjecture. =20 element three Delay fx.......at verious points the artist uses the second b= ehringer continous controller to add delay to his vocals, this is done pre-= loop as the loop is not effected...(THIS WOULD SURGEST HE IS CONTROLING MOR= E THEN ONE UNIT FROM HIS MIDI PEDAL, AGAIN THIS WOULD SURGEST TO ME A LAPTO= P OR SIMILAR MAY WELL BE BEING USED HOWEVER IT COULD ALSO BE A SECOND HARDW= ARE RACKMOUNTED DELAY...IM JUST GUESSING WHAT I WOULD DO TO GET THIS). In answer to your question about loop time believe it or not this lop by my= aproximation is actually created in less then three seconds of loop space,= you just hear it over and again. =20 anyway, i dont know if this helps at all but that was my 2p worth. =20 phill myonemanband> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> From: music@ca= rlsonarts.com> Subject: RE: What's the best vocal looper to buy> Date: Thu,= 6 Mar 2008 22:18:43 -0800> > The EDP sounds interesting. I want to be able= to record a whole > song, part by part, and solo over it vocally - this co= uld require at > least four parts in at least three sections. Check out Voc= aloop.com > for a guy who is doing what I have in mind. What equipment do y= ou > think he is using? I can't tell from the videos, but it looks like > h= e's got LOTS of pedals on the floor.> > Also on youtube:> > http://www.yout= ube.com/watch?v=3DGAtatKjDxEs> > And better yet:> > http://www.youtube.com/= watch?v=3Dl073tuzxoV0&feature=3Drelated> (but skip to about 2:22 to hear th= e song I'm talking about. I won't > tell you what song it is, but lets just= say maybe in Scandinavia MJ > is still PC.)> > So, would the 198 seconds i= n the EDP be enough to do what he is > doing? is it expandable? It may be o= ut of my price range for a > first unit. I'd have to buy pedals for it too,= right? Sweetwater > lists it at $999.> > Michael C.>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Free games, great prizes - get gaming at Gamesbox.=20 http://www.searchgamesbox.com= --_afd982be-2f76-45f9-b105-46367c5ee556_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi there,
 
i have watched this clip closley and heres what i see is going on
 
it looks at though he is using a behringer fcb1010 to me, this is a mi= di controller that is used to control midi equipment , these include both r= ack mounted gear and software so its hard to tell which....however a lot ca= n be gleaned form how he builds up the song....
 
element one....this is the drum/rhythem elements....these are laied down fi= rst and then put in a safe place to come back to (THIS TELLS US THE LOOPER = IS CAPABLE OF MULTIPLE TRACKS)
 
element two...the Do Doo but...this is added to join in with the original d= rum loop and sits either beside or on top of it, never alone...it is one ve= rsion of Do Doo that is then pitch shifted up at will by sending a commant = via midi to the looper...the drum track doesnt appear to be affected and th= e track doesnt speed up...again this give me a strong clue as to what the l= ooper is(I AM THINKING THE ONLY HARDWARE AVAILABLE TO DO THIS IS THE REPEAT= ER AND POSSIBLY THE LOOPERLATIVE WHICH I HAVENT USED, THE REPEATER WOULD TA= KE TIME TO MOVE THIS TRACK UP SO I FEEL I CAN RULE THIS OUT, THE OTHER OPTI= ON IS THAT THE MIDI PEDAL IS CONTROLLING A SOFTWARE LOOPER BUT I COULD= NT COMMENT ON WHICH AS THAT IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTIESE) ps not shouting, = just trying to seperate conjecture.
 
element three Delay fx.......at verious points the artist uses the second b= ehringer continous controller to add delay to his vocals, this is done pre-= loop as the loop is not effected...(THIS WOULD SURGEST HE IS CONTROLING MOR= E THEN ONE UNIT FROM HIS MIDI PEDAL, AGAIN THIS WOULD SURGEST TO ME A LAPTO= P OR SIMILAR MAY WELL BE BEING USED HOWEVER IT COULD ALSO BE A SECOND HARDW= ARE RACKMOUNTED DELAY...IM JUST GUESSING WHAT I WOULD DO TO GET THIS).
In answer to your question about loop time believe it or not this lop by my= aproximation is actually created in less then three seconds of loop space,= you just hear it over and again.
 
anyway, i dont know if this helps at all but that was my 2p worth.
 
phill myonemanband
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> = From: music@carlsonarts.com
> Subject: RE: What's the best vocal loop= er to buy
> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:18:43 -0800
>
> The= EDP sounds interesting. I want to be able to record a whole
> song,= part by part, and solo over it vocally - this could require at
> le= ast four parts in at least three sections. Check out Vocaloop.com
> = for a guy who is doing what I have in mind. What equipment do you
> = think he is using? I can't tell from the videos, but it looks like
>= he's got LOTS of pedals on the floor.
>
> Also on youtube:>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGAtatKjDxEs
>
>= ; And better yet:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl073tuz= xoV0&feature=3Drelated
> (but skip to about 2:22 to hear the song= I'm talking about. I won't
> tell you what song it is, but lets jus= t say maybe in Scandinavia MJ
> is still PC.)
>
> So, w= ould the 198 seconds in the EDP be enough to do what he is
> doing? = is it expandable? It may be out of my price range for a
> first unit= . I'd have to buy pedals for it too, right? Sweetwater
> lists it at= $999.
>
> Michael C.
>


She said wha= t? About who? Sham= eful celebrity quotes on Search Star! = --_afd982be-2f76-45f9-b105-46367c5ee556_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 03:40:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EEF73BE89; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47D20AAF.6050208@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:40:31 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record References: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> <47CEED3A.40706@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 03:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks a lot, Tony. And thanks for the links to music, I'll be checking this out as well as the other stuff you posted last week. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I'd like to add that Daryl does an excellent job with his reviews. > Much appreciated! > > RE: RPM. > > I didn't do the RPM, but I did the National Solo Album in a Month in > 2006. Here's a link to the songs for anybody interested. > > http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/cycle.htm > > Lots of looping spacey droney synth stuff. > > Enjoy. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 05:34:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D94F3BE84; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 05:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter1-v.gandi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <7A3E47BF-D2BA-4BAE-AF03-2BC38BC06B8B@surfbest.net> References: <7A3E47BF-D2BA-4BAE-AF03-2BC38BC06B8B@surfbest.net> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 14:22:28 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: film music rights, licensing etc.(OT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 05:34:27 +0000 (UTC) At 9:44 AM -0600 3/6/08, Richard Roberts wrote: > >I believe the organization that covers the Pacific rim region is >called SESAC. I apologize for not knowing what the acronym stands >for. Excellent! Thanks Richard! Having the name/acronym at least gives me a starting point for doing research, which is exactly what I needed. --m. -- _____ "bye-bye empire; empire, bye-bye" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 07:25:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A68893BE84; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authentication-Warning: webmail-1.hosting.atlantic.net: apache set sender to music@carlsonarts.com using -f X-IMP-User: music@carlsonarts.com Message-ID: <20080308022555.jy13ml6m7gokgk4s@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 02:25:55 -0500 From: music@carlsonarts.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper References: <20080307153436.988D93BEC3@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080307153436.988D93BEC3@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Hey, my computer couldn't completely digest the digest, or it wasn't served up right, so I didn't get Adrian's thoughts. Could you please send them again, or send them directly to my email at music@carlsonarts.com? Thanks. I'm really eager to move ahead with this. Maybe I should reconsider going the software route, but I'd rather not have to have a laptop in front of me when performing. It's bad enough the pedals would make it look like I'm stomping on ants on stage. And I currently don't have a laptop to use -- so that would be added expense. I do have both a Mac G4 and a decent PC, though, Mac has DP5 and pc has Protools LE. So I'm pretty computer savvy. I have a demo of Ableton maybe I'll try it out and see what it does. But anyways, what about the video I posted? What do you think vocaloop is using for equipment? Michael C. Thanks again. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 07:57:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A55B13BE87; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:57:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47D246D5.5060803@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:57:09 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill Subject: Review of Rainer Straschill's "Weird Specialist" References: <7A3E47BF-D2BA-4BAE-AF03-2BC38BC06B8B@surfbest.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 07:57:20 +0000 (UTC) I've posted a review of Rainer Straschill's "Weird Specialist" here: http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Rainer_Straschill.htm Rainer, let me know if there are any other links you'd like included. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 08:01:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E733B3BE8F; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:01:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 617 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:01:37 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArgIADPU0Ud8qAAz/2dsb2JhbAATgic0hRSBZguXBIsq X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,466,1199631600"; d="scan'208,217";a="286819413" Message-ID: <000a01c880f2$16e61ec0$6401a8c0@Falconer> From: "Simon Birds" To: Subject: EH 2880 Question Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:57:42 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8814E.4A00D5A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:01:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8814E.4A00D5A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, This is my first post to this list although I've been reading it on and = off for a while now. Although there is lots of info in the archives on the Electro Harmonix = 2880 and its behaviour, I can't work out whether the behaviour I'm = seeing on my unit is 'normal' so I thought I'd run it past the list to = see if anyone else has seen the same thing. When I'm syncing my 2880 to midi my unit randomly does that whole = speeding up/slowing down tape effect thing without warning. From what = I've read this would be expected if I'd just recorded the first loop but = my unit does this even when I've recorded onto three tracks and = stopped/restarted the master. eg. I currently have all 4 tracks recorded = , the master and 2880 are stopped. If I start the master (and the 2880 = starts as well) both will play along happily for a while and then = without warning the 2880 will do the tape effect speed up and then = settle down again (usually in time but out of position/sync). Anyone else see this strange behaviour ? =20 Also, does anyone know exactly what sync issues the firmware update = fixed ? Any comments appreciated... Cheers Simon ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8814E.4A00D5A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
This is my first post to this list = although I've=20 been reading it on and off for a while now.
 
Although there is lots of info in the = archives on=20 the Electro Harmonix 2880 and its behaviour, I can't work out whether = the=20 behaviour I'm seeing on my unit is 'normal' so I thought I'd run it past = the=20 list to see if anyone else has seen the same thing.
 
When I'm syncing my 2880 to midi = my unit=20 randomly does that whole speeding up/slowing down tape effect thing = without=20 warning. From what I've read this would be expected if I'd just recorded = the=20 first loop but my unit does this even when I've recorded onto three = tracks=20 and stopped/restarted the master. eg. I currently have all 4 tracks = recorded ,=20 the master and 2880 are stopped. If I start the master (and the 2880 = starts as=20 well) both will play along happily  for a while and then without = warning=20 the 2880 will do the tape effect speed up and then settle down again = (usually in=20 time but out of position/sync).
 
Anyone else see this strange behaviour=20 ?   
 
Also, does anyone know exactly what = sync issues the=20 firmware update fixed ?
 
Any comments = appreciated...
 
Cheers
 
Simon
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C8814E.4A00D5A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 08:48:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75A183BE93; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <27159.167.83.10.20.1204904120.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Subject: RE: Easiest drum machine software Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:48:52 +0100 Message-ID: <003501c880f9$3dfc3510$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <27159.167.83.10.20.1204904120.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciA8lz0ndgUSbypQ92jPvTV2yW3BwABq/Ug Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:48:58 +0000 (UTC) > Does the groove agent export WAV files of the tracks or do you have to go OUT Of the computer into your recorder? I don't quite remember but I think I simply recorded on the same computer using Adobe Audition or something. -m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 09:15:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72D9B3BE97; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:15:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:14:55 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to the AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47D2590F.9020306@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: <-iyOjB.A.GfF.Oll0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:15:58 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 7 at 6:00 am EST/GMT-5, less than two hours from now. I will continue the special on Sequences Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 10:56:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9443BE8C; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:56:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=IATjh0Nd29Vlkt7MmmIeECNPDppaj/HDFdRHy9oqozc=; b=R4RXwzPHERqKl4lZhbdm1fyXHDcfNhOqe0IPcy68kGXY2c588CBy4s4BW1/p5mqVD0m8T/fo5o7lBCGdmPHyeshbT7eLc4/AEfWppOBDSaAcpTK0+yWrcK6hx0eqTy3WPTJkGV01tONp2fSYbSj+cM7W1eOYKUQZKlBSPVJFmC4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=geiTKOkTxrlde7vEjaUKLJwEYieVFKbOrUuEI2pWgToyULo6FotOEBjPx0aav6EdpaBmbN1M6bW5s6ZyQM9h5o4o/X3zTZQroHrehYC9hFwPMexsl7Sb7FQRV2WQdjiMr4SfnHweXLZHeX1MGutJ1rn4HYEc6cAxYLfDydJYV0g= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:56:32 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EH 2880 Question In-Reply-To: <000a01c880f2$16e61ec0$6401a8c0@Falconer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_46357_15794947.1204973792917" References: <000a01c880f2$16e61ec0$6401a8c0@Falconer> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 10:56:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_46357_15794947.1204973792917 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline don't own an EH-2880 so i dunno, but seems like a valuable 'malfunction' feature if slaved to a sync. source does that tape effect. raul. 2008/3/8, Simon Birds : > > Hi all, > > This is my first post to this list although I've been reading it on and > off for a while now. > > Although there is lots of info in the archives on the Electro Harmonix > 2880 and its behaviour, I can't work out whether the behaviour I'm seeing on > my unit is 'normal' so I thought I'd run it past the list to see if anyone > else has seen the same thing. > > When I'm syncing my 2880 to midi my unit randomly does that whole speeding > up/slowing down tape effect thing without warning. From what I've read this > would be expected if I'd just recorded the first loop but my unit does this > even when I've recorded onto three tracks and stopped/restarted the master. > eg. I currently have all 4 tracks recorded , the master and 2880 are > stopped. If I start the master (and the 2880 starts as well) both will play > along happily for a while and then without warning the 2880 will do the > tape effect speed up and then settle down again (usually in time but out of > position/sync). > > Anyone else see this strange behaviour ? > > Also, does anyone know exactly what sync issues the firmware update fixed > ? > > Any comments appreciated... > > Cheers > > Simon > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_46357_15794947.1204973792917 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline don't own an EH-2880 so i dunno,
but seems like a valuable
'malfunction' feature if slaved to a sync.
source does that tape effect.

raul.

2008/3/8, Simon Birds <simonbirds@iinet.net.au>:
Hi all,
 
This is my first post to this list although I've been reading it on and off for a while now.
 
Although there is lots of info in the archives on the Electro Harmonix 2880 and its behaviour, I can't work out whether the behaviour I'm seeing on my unit is 'normal' so I thought I'd run it past the list to see if anyone else has seen the same thing.
 
When I'm syncing my 2880 to midi my unit randomly does that whole speeding up/slowing down tape effect thing without warning. From what I've read this would be expected if I'd just recorded the first loop but my unit does this even when I've recorded onto three tracks and stopped/restarted the master. eg. I currently have all 4 tracks recorded , the master and 2880 are stopped. If I start the master (and the 2880 starts as well) both will play along happily  for a while and then without warning the 2880 will do the tape effect speed up and then settle down again (usually in time but out of position/sync).
 
Anyone else see this strange behaviour ?   
 
Also, does anyone know exactly what sync issues the firmware update fixed ?
 
Any comments appreciated...
 
Cheers
 
Simon



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_46357_15794947.1204973792917-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 11:04:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88FF23BE84; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=DGfIviRX84UyWiKrNXFWAgHqo3KqMi9L6LPu5cuqWbk=; b=KokHSl1DJaIB/5QGr4A4lZ4SxALtlsKUzdTb55IG6rK1J3guF1eY2i4FRaMGZpfGLiWtxRcf4r//BIPgBu1UmgOY077/3+33Zppr4CIvpOM0rxD7CRjxChkKIg+xJOSScDqFDyrNRgzB9APCnCWn0zwXWmwGWRDnlqB6p8T4zBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cEvgMwDPh/GGpcNgvJUqEBZlX0Xl4cHEIFWYlveygw5u3X2OFNyzCEiuImrtDNJVZHoQHutCipzkM0Cw3sGy7laKyGmlCR0D9a0wHiKDnEDs0xwX2cwU+INVTngTejlQjToCq2B5iUBYs5uWFRDDeLMp2jZ83HumBBTvWS8WdRc= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:04:55 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Ableton live looping with no hands MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Hello Loopers A while ago there was a post about a student composition involving live looping using a grand piano. This post is slightly off the topic of this thread but related to a small section of it. "Now I've got a lot of it figured out- The different sounds as well as the structure and composition of the piece (I'd hope so!), the looping (ableton live is doing the looping, an envelope track sends out "commands" to Bome's midi translator, which sends instructions back to Live....this way the performer doesn't need to worry about a footswitch or making the looping happen. She has enough to worry about already!), My question is in relation to this setup for ableton live. I am running ableton live 6 on a macbook. I have my percussion going through a m0audio project mix. My goals are to use ableton as a livelooper for my percussion (drumset,congas,darbuka, shakers.etc...The problem I have encountered is in regard to the clicking of midicontrollers to enable looping in ableton. I would like to setup a template in ableton to do the looping without having to worry about footswitches or midi pads to record and loop segments of my playing. I have experimented with midistroke in ableton to various degrees of success but still have not found a way to setup my looping in such a way as to run automatically enabling me simply to worry about my playing and the composition. Could anyone elaborate further on this concept and a possible way to implement it in ableton live Kind regards Byron Howell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 11:09:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84CA63BE8F; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tdP5iRI/gmNzXLeBXdrGqTCakvtS+AXd9UbvSmT+Pqw=; b=WUDDosaYMCFLESQZoFPYfF3ouErMggosJMEBPNH2bIf2RZ30uOg4vrMKq8Ik5KDBDjBONhJM0sRYguYFpHG4SC6EtQyZHsTgaopwUj9RZjZFjbNd6Cat5x5yKUtGc50M2l+ASlYUX8rUgd60OI9LA2Chhza3GUZv/kDLOWYRsE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Vi0m6Wcb3/YdqEJxhGV/y3H/pl8fWKcameLNrZsxcRj0/mCuDfcN5Pw6HrvPsk+nqwHQBYERsI9OOMGtb/fECHBj2ptu8U5FYnGs4r07jZ8dUpAUoZ3PxvnUSG4c8hYuVgm1sw2jZgIdfMWqWdPN9eqq607H4jhNl44HldWdKGY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803080309t4c1e2848i6ce2e7e19fe6be6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:09:57 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software In-Reply-To: <003501c880f9$3dfc3510$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <27159.167.83.10.20.1204904120.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <003501c880f9$3dfc3510$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:09:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I just learned today that iDrum is now available for Windows XP/Vista. I've had the Mac version since its release four years ago and think it's the most easy one to handle. Check it out at http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/idrum/ I remember you said in your original mail that you are "typically drawn to drum machines where you can enter notes by hitting pads" but since this is software you need some sort of MIDI drum pads for that. And I'm not certain you can program the patterns by hitting pads in realtime (thus sending external MIDI notes into the iDrum software), you would have to read up on the site to find out if that is possible. Next step might be GURU from FXpansion which is more like a workstation for churning out beats. It has nice effects - like reverb, phaser, delay etc - that can be assigned to different drums and also tweaked in realtime while the music is running. Both are inspired by the legendary MPC. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 11:30:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26C7D3BE92; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1sj49ufq35MJG4KzteF0awfb1ECxMebYN1dvZOiBGQM=; b=GgVVYsavMwiH6mUmhNjySDvADnYhrtT2zvqbzntRpknxxoWHmz212MY++ZeWWUdYaPgoM8hVnyDtg4IfAfIIrXIhqcWy1dw+HbXA8vA3BvqPt3y1VzX4FdO2+DoPxtvRlM2xfLGDxbyFfWBr8GlBFFSb4FJg9ImWF7uMzesHNCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cPe/XFw9ZObr65o7dsr57NCOYiIPT7+Pe1fVLmQFCnGty2qTeM+3h3IDedGePYbfLVlE2R2UGua2jS41qXJtkzkn5eFSSsA6iRvSpdo4moIPd2E3KYIPBtEW0+89kPikEdcXgCn/O9ZrUKtk2yxWs3SDfFziUxggLaYVif/X0Y4= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803080330n4b6e9bafpa49bd0b6d20ac9c3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:30:09 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton live looping with no hands In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:30:10 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Byron Howell wrote: > My question is in relation to this setup for ableton live. > I am running ableton live 6 on a macbook. I have my percussion going > through a m0audio project mix. My goals are to use ableton as a > livelooper for my percussion (drumset,congas,darbuka, > shakers.etc...The problem I have encountered is in regard to the > clicking of midicontrollers to enable looping in ableton. I would like > to setup a template in ableton to do the looping without having to > worry about footswitches or midi pads to record and loop segments of > my playing. Hi Byron, If you enable an IAC Bus on the Mac you can have midi clips in Live sending the controller data (through the IAC) for starting and stopping recording of audio clips on other tracks. You could for example set up a five minute midi clip that sends the correct commands at the right moments. Or you could stack many such "controller data MIDI clips" on a MIDI Track and set up a playlist for them by using Clip Launch Follow Action scripts. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 11:34:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8829E3BE97; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1204976046; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=hIHLTansoxNsKXxPdKlzpSkcELY=; b=d8j7CaqgYXFWyusveD8VgW0Y4ZGiG0iPqyz0AVC2SILUrJMB+nP+JIX/YUfmbzLy p+RQwkPDIQv5qWxEMl950ujSfnzB35As1tmH9YAlZm68pgWUvIzMINvYUrmVh/Kg; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=FqtpwFOJVLD8XX9-oa8A:9 a=YILSyEmG_KL9CKi5sz8A:7 a=GBFZaOGi54vMnv2fSOcmG_toTekA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=0dRpvnS4h04A:10 a=EytFRhV0eoST5DTHdLEA:9 a=oXim0ISkXz08qeoqg1UA:7 a=1WOhvLaqX2sUkQHQcJj8_lZH_k8A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <001701c88110$62605780$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000a01c880f2$16e61ec0$6401a8c0@Falconer> Subject: Re: EH 2880 Question Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 06:34:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01C880E6.78CDDD50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:34:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C880E6.78CDDD50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mine does not do that but it used to drift out of sync until the = software update. Also I always run it in Quantize when syncing to midi = either master or slave. Here is what the upgrade notes say : QUANTIZED LOOPING WHEN 2880 IS MIDI CLOCK SLAVE=20 When the 2880 has EXT. CLOCK enabled and is therefore the MIDI Clock = slave to another device, a fix has been made when Quantize mode is ON. = If your MIDI master is continually sending MIDI Clock with MIDI Song = Position Pointer data, the 2880 will read the MIDI SPP data and always = start recording its loop on beat 1, as long as Quantize is set to on. It = will also always end the loop recording on beat 1 of a bar so that the = loop lengths are always x number of bars in length. This allows the user = to more easily make loops that will be in sync with their MIDI master.=20 peace, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Simon Birds=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:57 AM Subject: EH 2880 Question Hi all, This is my first post to this list although I've been reading it on = and off for a while now. Although there is lots of info in the archives on the Electro Harmonix = 2880 and its behaviour, I can't work out whether the behaviour I'm = seeing on my unit is 'normal' so I thought I'd run it past the list to = see if anyone else has seen the same thing. When I'm syncing my 2880 to midi my unit randomly does that whole = speeding up/slowing down tape effect thing without warning. From what = I've read this would be expected if I'd just recorded the first loop but = my unit does this even when I've recorded onto three tracks and = stopped/restarted the master. eg. I currently have all 4 tracks recorded = , the master and 2880 are stopped. If I start the master (and the 2880 = starts as well) both will play along happily for a while and then = without warning the 2880 will do the tape effect speed up and then = settle down again (usually in time but out of position/sync). Anyone else see this strange behaviour ? =20 Also, does anyone know exactly what sync issues the firmware update = fixed ? Any comments appreciated... Cheers Simon -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.6/1318 - Release Date: = 3/7/2008 2:01 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C880E6.78CDDD50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mine does not do that but it used to = drift out of=20 sync until the software update. Also I always run it in Quantize when = syncing to=20 midi either master or slave. Here is what the upgrade notes say = :
 

QUANTIZED LOOPING WHEN 2880 IS MIDI CLOCK SLAVE=20

When the 2880 has EXT. CLOCK enabled and is therefore the MIDI Clock = slave to=20 another device, a fix has been made when Quantize mode is ON. If your = MIDI=20 master is continually sending MIDI Clock with MIDI Song Position Pointer = data,=20 the 2880 will read the MIDI SPP data and always start recording its loop = on beat=20 1, as long as Quantize is set to on. It will also always end the loop = recording=20 on beat 1 of a bar so that the loop lengths are always x number of bars = in=20 length. This allows the user to more easily make loops that will be in = sync with=20 their MIDI master.

peace, Jeff

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Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 = 2:57=20 AM
Subject: EH 2880 Question

Hi all,
 
This is my first post to this list = although I've=20 been reading it on and off for a while now.
 
Although there is lots of info in the = archives on=20 the Electro Harmonix 2880 and its behaviour, I can't work out whether = the=20 behaviour I'm seeing on my unit is 'normal' so I thought I'd run it = past the=20 list to see if anyone else has seen the same thing.
 
When I'm syncing my 2880 to midi = my unit=20 randomly does that whole speeding up/slowing down tape effect thing = without=20 warning. From what I've read this would be expected if I'd just = recorded the=20 first loop but my unit does this even when I've recorded = onto three=20 tracks and stopped/restarted the master. eg. I currently have all 4 = tracks=20 recorded , the master and 2880 are stopped. If I start the master (and = the=20 2880 starts as well) both will play along happily  for a while = and then=20 without warning the 2880 will do the tape effect speed up and then = settle down=20 again (usually in time but out of position/sync).
 
Anyone else see this strange = behaviour=20 ?   
 
Also, does anyone know exactly what = sync issues=20 the firmware update fixed ?
 
Any comments = appreciated...
 
Cheers
 
Simon

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C88130.6E447BEC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 16:16:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 729343BE8D; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:16:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:16:10 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=R_miXAFm0coA:10 a=1QvkqfLJUA98MMbJyfYA:9 a=IJ56eTy5VH1dBZ3zofnRktM9q28A:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=sw1DOkMKia7bfMLe1k0A:9 a=hX3QmTnloZAIqDYo1A4A:7 a=ME5E0MGTRkkfWh7FpRcOfdC7UZIA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <0D901696-FE8D-4855-88CE-5C75191C8C4E@comcast.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--947825305 From: Jim Fogarty Subject: New EDP Problem or Feature? -Loop Playback/Dynamics Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:10:41 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <5HndHC.A.R-.Kvr0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:16:10 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-22--947825305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey , Early Loopers Delight member, who hasn't been around for a LONG time.......good to see things are still going strong. Sorry my 1st post in forever has to be a "HELP!!!". Just got a Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro and Foot Control from MF....good deal, too.......well, maybe? I'm new to the EDP, but not to looping. I'm having a problem making loops with swells and dynamics. The EDP works fine when I play a strong rhythmic figure, but when I do volume swells or soft passages, it cuts off the playback when the input level gets too low. In other words, say I volume swell in a chord.......on playback, it cuts off the beginning of the swell and end of it, abruptly. The loop is the entire length I recorded, but you only HEAR the louder sections. Kind of sucks. I'm using my strat straight into the EDP, then right out to the amp. I have the input set so it's green and only only goes orange when I nail it. Any ideas? Thanks! - jim fogarty PS....the UNDO function seems a little hinky, too........so, I may have a lemon. --Apple-Mail-22--947825305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
Hey ,

Early Loopers Delight member, who hasn't been around = for a LONG time.......good to see things are still going = strong.

Sorry my 1st = post in forever has to be a "HELP!!!".
Just got a Gibson Echoplex = Digital Pro and Foot Control from MF....good deal, too.......well, = maybe?

I'm new to the EDP, but not to = looping.

I'm having a problem making loops with swells and = dynamics. The EDP works fine when I play a strong rhythmic figure, but = when I do volume swells or soft passages, it cuts off the playback when = the input level gets too low. In other words, say I volume swell in a = chord.......on playback, it cuts off the beginning of the swell and end = of it, abruptly. The loop is the entire length I recorded, but you only = HEAR the louder sections. Kind of sucks.

I'm using = my strat straight into the EDP, then right out to the amp. I have the = input set so it's green and only only goes orange when I nail = it.

Any ideas?


- jim fogarty

PS....the = UNDO function seems a little hinky, too........so, I may have a = lemon.
= --Apple-Mail-22--947825305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 16:39:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E61393BE8C; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=12Y5ExDBvVrNAbBuzdBg9d+Xn+I5mwv7F8+A86hDVWI=; b=xBQId5zMNFmrP2nLiF3pzwDGo4NEAmCjJ6VWeGuYybbZL+VA1GKObV8NlGZv0WQ6IQqKDrU02L5Fq2h7VaIp8uv+OpwhMjXovyVWungoixFIKE/XeK5VC8GYYn/6bWGqCgPbhEtZq0DGOJ8MGI8SFLXhfaFziYepq5UJGlqwYtg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JrgU4P7siNdJDSsP2QjEEf/eafN/fmMCqFvuXkg9il4qJCDNsFP0lx12vXBFh82qmyPX1+LQVl6KzMy7D+U/IGa2tY1px46WTSP9gAornUfTIhbY9+bjBCyKexOzTZCwTbpVgJb7tkYAdTfxPNgE1/4/EB3+me7CLclapOG1GYw= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:39:56 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New EDP Problem or Feature? -Loop Playback/Dynamics In-Reply-To: <0D901696-FE8D-4855-88CE-5C75191C8C4E@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_40912_27514912.1204994396521" References: <0D901696-FE8D-4855-88CE-5C75191C8C4E@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 16:39:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_40912_27514912.1204994396521 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Which version of the EDP software are you running? This sounds like the old v3.2 issue. From the EDP FAQ: *I had a problem where tbe beginning of a volume swell was cut off in the recorded loop. (or:I heard there is a problem with volume swells.) Is this fixed?* With LoopIII v3.2, people often complained that the noisegate cut off quiet sections of their loops. It was fairly irritating. This happened because the threshold for our friendly noisegate was set too high. For the LoopIII v5.0version, the threshold setting of the noisegate has been reset to a much lower value. Volume swells and such don't cut in like they used to. Hopefully this works for everyone. If you are using the old software and have this problem, make sure to get the upgrade. On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Jim Fogarty wrote: > > > I'm having a problem making loops with swells and dynamics. The EDP works > fine when I play a strong rhythmic figure, but when I do volume swells or > soft passages, it cuts off the playback when the input level gets too low. > In other words, say I volume swell in a chord.......on playback, it cuts off > the beginning of the swell and end of it, abruptly. The loop is the entire > length I recorded, but you only HEAR the louder sections. Kind of sucks. > > I'm using my strat straight into the EDP, then right out to the amp. I > have the input set so it's green and only only goes orange when I nail it. > > > ------=_Part_40912_27514912.1204994396521 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Which version of the EDP software are you running?  This sounds like the old v3.2 issue.  From the EDP FAQ:

I had a problem where tbe beginning of a volume swell was cut off in the recorded loop. (or:I heard there is a problem with volume swells.) Is this fixed?

With LoopIII v3.2, people often complained that the noisegate cut off quiet sections of their loops. It was fairly irritating. This happened because the threshold for our friendly noisegate was set too high. For the LoopIII v5.0 version, the threshold setting of the noisegate has been reset to a much lower value. Volume swells and such don't cut in like they used to. Hopefully this works for everyone. If you are using the old software and have this problem, make sure to get the upgrade.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Jim Fogarty <jfog10@comcast.net> wrote:


I'm having a problem making loops with swells and dynamics. The EDP works fine when I play a strong rhythmic figure, but when I do volume swells or soft passages, it cuts off the playback when the input level gets too low. In other words, say I volume swell in a chord.......on playback, it cuts off the beginning of the swell and end of it, abruptly. The loop is the entire length I recorded, but you only HEAR the louder sections. Kind of sucks.

I'm using my strat straight into the EDP, then right out to the amp. I have the input set so it's green and only only goes orange when I nail it.



------=_Part_40912_27514912.1204994396521-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 18:26:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B738D3BE8C; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <627A035A-28C2-4A79-81D1-D49FFBA50BEF@earthlink.net> References: <627A035A-28C2-4A79-81D1-D49FFBA50BEF@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Some impressive VG-99 demos Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:46:41 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 18:26:04 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing Dave. On Mar 7, 2008, at 2:43 PM, David Coffin wrote: > No explicit looping content here, but certainly some food for thought=20= > if you=92re interested in guitar processors. Bill is posting these = audio=20 > demos to the VG forums; he's apparently a studio pro, and obviously an=20= > accomplished VG tweeter and player. > > Enjoy all 11 tracks: > > = http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=3D781088&content=3Dmusi= c > > best, > dc From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 19:54:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8484F3BE9E; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 19:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jhRfIT4yYQfdOje4CIM8NAqptyIEYJbbXz80vSjEFSQ=; b=MoyHj2ZZ5dKgBvPF8f1fqfaEuq6zPMUFASFcACCBee2Nje96dzrZYaasgy1uJ1MNj/G+ss0rVdMPJme7NN5wRkGREQh6E2FSSAbdvgGJduvryzHScvQ+hbOUz3AtW3nzstn4vtiA6Jotc73bhi2WjLsckH5+TkiJhbTZ/kMJmeM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=s8b8IYTisyt9AP8wlktEJVsFx7Cdv4PTBs/bkM3WL6ScLol1S3UVocLe9i7ErpEOKfIIZBQ02IxE51qn8Tqz8rNE+n0Z/SyxTBPjli7cW39QuvQAk5UwTmd4kbDC+RVclvqRxIU8Gr4tZpG8e6pQDAswKv2UuuXJwkNeJXLwuzE= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:54:01 +0200 From: "Byron Howell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ableton live looping with no hands In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803080330n4b6e9bafpa49bd0b6d20ac9c3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0803080330n4b6e9bafpa49bd0b6d20ac9c3@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7SL58.A.UXH.b7u0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 19:54:03 +0000 (UTC) Wow! Thankyou. Always step in with wise words you do. Keep the groove Byron On 3/8/08, Per Boysen wrote: > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Byron Howell wrote: > > > My question is in relation to this setup for ableton live. > > I am running ableton live 6 on a macbook. I have my percussion going > > through a m0audio project mix. My goals are to use ableton as a > > livelooper for my percussion (drumset,congas,darbuka, > > shakers.etc...The problem I have encountered is in regard to the > > clicking of midicontrollers to enable looping in ableton. I would like > > to setup a template in ableton to do the looping without having to > > worry about footswitches or midi pads to record and loop segments of > > my playing. > > > > Hi Byron, > > If you enable an IAC Bus on the Mac you can have midi clips in Live > sending the controller data (through the IAC) for starting and > stopping recording of audio clips on other tracks. You could for > example set up a five minute midi clip that sends the correct commands > at the right moments. Or you could stack many such "controller data > MIDI clips" on a MIDI Track and set up a playlist for them by using > Clip Launch Follow Action scripts. > > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 19:56:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DBB93BE9E; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:55:17 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 8, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47D2EF25.9060005@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: <-2lsEC.A.GfH.q9u0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/index.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Afterglow: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow/index.html Listen to WMUH now at: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Show #125 March 8, 2008. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. Issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Bass Communion Pacific Codex 1 Pacific Codex (Equation) VA [Rudolf Heiman] Strange Delight Sequences No. 1 VA [Dirk Jan Muller] Time Signals Sequences No. 1 Ricochet Musicians Ricochet Passage Yellowstone (Ricochet Dream) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Elivia Melodey Dance of the Terra Firma (none) Salamander Paradiso Angel of Chimes Middle Path (5th Element) Antoine DaFour Reality Existence (Candyrat) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== NDV The Game Karma (Radiant) NDV The Water's Edge Karma (Radiant) Finnforest Paikalliset Tuulet Lahto Matkalle (Laser's Edge) The Tangent Lost In London 25 Not As Good As the Book Years Later (InsideOut) The Tangent The Ethernet Not As Good As the Book (InsideOut) Spock's Beard On A Perfect Day Spock's Beard (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. 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To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 20:15:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 607333BEB2; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:15:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=mpn+Ot66BO9if7dVjpcJ//wCi3iX0Zqd2NCLs5PrUTg=; b=X9DkD9s78rhM9LlGg/kX7CGOqMicDDiCsB1+HmNbANshgahptTERwsF/chpZOx6CpVeyGeepcLGi9L1MiAug9y4M3UqmV+bxTYsxmUo6PjzZx3sp4d870cJxOUmgI7E8oVkTlS2vtqEb2ln0tCVXqn3/3kTFJmxHf26k1IUYL4o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RehVadpYtE542MuB+c+GSSFGGLINYG/K6SghtEkLLCN5s/1ya0g5lrOwO4ckoZ0ZN5nCWWdHT6n3UozXSG2xDBi6xuTs2TYdA1yKqON5bQc8ay8XU1Q6bZw5PZyNpyCokOLm7xdleI+wyZUq3HdMBQhJc+rlh/eAHuS6+t4QO8g= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:15:20 -0500 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New EDP Problem or Feature? -Loop Playback/Dynamics In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32621_31451439.1205007321013" References: <0D901696-FE8D-4855-88CE-5C75191C8C4E@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:15:23 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32621_31451439.1205007321013 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think I have a similar problem (with the new version), only for me the input light doesn't seem to light up as soon, but the behavior seems the same. I've also been running strat-->(few effects)-->edp-->amp and only recently decided to trouble-shoot where all the hiss etc. was coming from. After screwing around with everything else, only last did I turn to the EDP to see that I was running the input (and output too) at nearly full, and while I never had a problem with clipping, turning this down made me realize that a lot of the static noise was really only present with this turned up. At 12 o'clock there was practically no static. Great, I thought, I've found the problem (even if the static is really coming from elsewhere, I was apparently amplifying it greatly with the EDP). So I turned that down to 12 o'clock, and only then did I have the problem you describe. I noticed it though when using a delay, because only the first 1 or 2 repeats would make it onto the recorded loop - a good way to trouble-shoot because it's more obvious than figuring out where your swell is showing up or disappearing). So now I'm thinking you really need to run a line-level signal to the edp, either by using an effects loop on an amp, or a mixer, or a valvulator. I was actually going to post about this very issue. It seems that many people use a mixer partly for this reason, but I'm hoping not to have to do that. I also don't own a decent amp with an effects loop, or a valvulator (I actually just looked that up the other day trying to figure this out). I also thought about maybe getting a dummy-load with a line out for my 5 watt tube amp, because that should be cheap enough (whether or not it's any good is another question - someone is selling a DIY kit for that on ebay); sending the line out to the edp, then the edp out to a clean solid state power amp I have. That would be the cheapest way for me to do it, although I can't tell how much I can keep cheaping out on things trying to correct problems that I have created by cheaping out on other things (like powering my non-boutique effects and everything else, cheap amps, etc). So I'd also be interested if anyone has any insights into cost-effective ways to get a good, clean (non-static/hiss/etc.) sound out of the EDP with a similar setup. I can't tell how much I would be solved with sending a stronger signal vs. trying to get the quiet hiss out what I already have, and doing either one well could be more expensive than I want to get into. ------=_Part_32621_31451439.1205007321013 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I think I have a similar problem (with the new version), only for me the in= put light doesn't seem to light up as soon, but the behavior seems the = same. I've also been running strat-->(few effects)-->edp-->amp= and only recently decided to trouble-shoot where all the hiss etc. was com= ing from. After screwing around with everything else, only last did I turn = to the EDP to see that I was running the input (and output too) at nearly f= ull, and while I never had a problem with clipping, turning this down made = me realize that a lot of the static noise was really only present with this= turned up. At 12 o'clock there was practically no static. Great, I tho= ught, I've found the problem (even if the static is really coming from = elsewhere, I was apparently amplifying it greatly with the EDP). So I turne= d that down to 12 o'clock, and only then did I have the problem you des= cribe. I noticed it though when using a delay, because only the first 1 or = 2 repeats would make it onto the recorded loop - a good way to trouble-shoo= t because it's more obvious than figuring out where your swell is showi= ng up or disappearing). So now I'm thinking you really need to run a li= ne-level signal to the edp, either by using an effects loop on an amp, or a= mixer, or a valvulator. I was actually going to post about this very issue= . It seems that many people use a mixer partly for this reason, but I'm= hoping not to have to do that. I also don't own a decent amp with an e= ffects loop, or a valvulator (I actually just looked that up the other day = trying to figure this out). I also thought about maybe getting a dummy-load= with a line out for my 5 watt tube amp, because that should be cheap enoug= h (whether or not it's any good is another question - someone is sellin= g a DIY kit for that on ebay); sending the line out to the edp, then the ed= p out to a clean solid state power amp I have. That would be the cheapest w= ay for me to do it, although I can't tell how much I can keep cheaping = out on things trying to correct problems that I have created by cheaping ou= t on other things (like powering my non-boutique effects and everything els= e, cheap amps, etc). So I'd also be interested if anyone has any insigh= ts into cost-effective ways to get a good, clean (non-static/hiss/etc.) sou= nd out of the EDP with a similar setup. I can't tell how much I would b= e solved with sending a stronger signal vs. trying to get the quiet hiss ou= t what I already have, and doing either one well could be more expensive th= an I want to get into.  ------=_Part_32621_31451439.1205007321013-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 8 22:19:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FF2F3BE87; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:19:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=vCnq5Ggg0VKYl2DiSY0D8cc04BrEBwjz1t5Jwn0VUnw=; b=a7b+a19eGKQi2bz/1/Wd7thLMfYGzwQImXMfT8wHMH0+BUrViS51rUobEz2JjdEnYI8eiaBdb3XAVkZL6WAeAgaMYXBWDoPxRtz99PI+wb5vjKX8GQYeKWHpAqr0Oi0MigcfktF698jgza0ILdMiF82Zct0qBfgg/sXYiAKIcc4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZhIh8S27OI5yRT0JBba+uBmJT3YNqaeizudlpXuJSvdHyxHCVvJ6H4OPXK0QGVYg3hFeBlAaVxayfGLwulhxGw2qI+S48epiMRd7MqEjWdzTY/2DZ/AZZH0xl7ya2aI6E5n5sGVTPjzhrj0ZmIu2BCVuF60edjhk/eh4scV74MA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: <0D901696-FE8D-4855-88CE-5C75191C8C4E@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: New EDP Problem or Feature? -Loop Playback/Dynamics Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 14:19:12 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: <4jTN.A.t_E.mDx0HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:19:18 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:15 PM, radio radio wrote: > So now I'm thinking you really need to run a line-level signal to > the edp, either by using an effects loop on an amp, or a mixer, or > a valvulator. I was actually going to post about this very issue. > It seems that many people use a mixer partly for this reason, but > I'm hoping not to have to do that. I also don't own a decent amp > with an effects loop, or a valvulator Ebtech makes a line level shifter, the 2 channel version is only $70: http://www.zzounds.com/item--EBTLLS2PKG Might be found used somewhere for much less. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 05:04:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F6273BE81; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 05:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:04:39 UTC X-YMail-OSG: cgYEvRYVM1k6_iKmDG9qNtEekIPS0l20hJ_2h1HQZA1HGPCliRqpbSnp7nbz1KoLopapGDC0khC_WKwBDZNTW_a6eKoMAenRwp0NJBkE7EGgin7GZI2TyjWKU224suJ.5cgmIA6HjtRmWxQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000f01c881a2$1cd475b0$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <0D901696-FE8D-4855-88CE-5C75191C8C4E@comcast.net> Subject: Re: New EDP Problem or Feature? -Loop Playback/Dynamics Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 22:57:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 05:04:40 +0000 (UTC) When I sent my edp in for cleanup, I was discussing this issue and the folks at British Audio mentioned that the EDP really DOES do better as part of an effects loop. I like the idea of the below. It's time to check out EBAY. ~peace~ Plish ----- Original Message ----- From: "RP Collier" To: Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: Re: New EDP Problem or Feature? -Loop Playback/Dynamics > > On Mar 8, 2008, at 12:15 PM, radio radio wrote: > >> So now I'm thinking you really need to run a line-level signal to the >> edp, either by using an effects loop on an amp, or a mixer, or a >> valvulator. I was actually going to post about this very issue. It seems >> that many people use a mixer partly for this reason, but I'm hoping not >> to have to do that. I also don't own a decent amp with an effects loop, >> or a valvulator > > Ebtech makes a line level shifter, the 2 channel version is only $70: > http://www.zzounds.com/item--EBTLLS2PKG > > Might be found used somewhere for much less. > > > regards > > > BobC > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > > http://www.youtube.com/tynego > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 06:02:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B7FF3BE82; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 06:02:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:01:11 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: March 15: electro-music chamber orchestra in Princeton To: Ambient Hyperreal List , Loopers Delight Mailing List , "ampfea.org music-bar" Message-id: <47D37D27.6020502@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: <9eZHjC.A.KYF.R230HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 06:02:57 +0000 (UTC) PRINCETON IS ABOUT TO BUZZ Sarnoff Presents The Electro-Music Chamber Orchestra March 15, 2008 David Sarnoff Library Auditorium 7:30 PM 201 Washington Rd Princeton, NJ Admission $10 per Person Paying Friends: $5.00 609-734-2636 What’s the buzz about? After a wired holiday celebration last December, The Electro-Music Chamber Orchestra returns to the David Sarnoff Library Auditorium on Saturday, March 15th with its mountains of synthesizers, keyboards, sequencers, gizmos, gadgets and electro-gear. Doors open at 7:00 PM for this ear-expanding event, with refreshments on hand provided by Grovers Mill Coffee and McCaffrey's bakery. Admission is $10.00 for the general public. Friends of Sarnoff Library receive a five dollar discount. This time around, the infamous, mutating orchestra personnel have been hand-picked by founders Howard Moscovitz and Greg Waltzer. During the first half of the evening, various members will be performing short sets of electrifying compositions before returning in the second half as the full Chamber Orchestra in a sizzling celebration of Spring. The audience will meet Fringe Element, a quartet of electro-musicians: Michael Victor, Greg Waltzer, Jose Murcia and James Lacey. Their wholly spontaneous creations will lead everyone out of the ordinary and into a world of unpredictable, flowing soundscapes. Their two CDs, Rampant Biology and Organic Chemistry are available at http://electro-music.com More information is available at their web site: http://fringe-element.com Another of the evening’s permutations will see Greg Waltzer leaving the Fringe to build lush, ambient sonic constructs with partners Howard Moscovitz and Bill Fox. Together, they become the resonant force called Xeroid Entity. http://xeroid-entity.com The evening’s mutations continue with Howard Moscovitz freed of the trio to perform solo, bringing us deep into the reverberating harmonies and silences of his own personal universe. He’ll then be joined by thereminist Kip Rosser (Remember the theremin? The instrument that’s played without being touched!) http://www.performancekr.com/theremin.html The duo will present their dream-soaked, evocative improvisations, soon to be released on their CD, Exploration of the Black Exterior. The metamorphosis will be completed in the evening’s second half, as all personnel become the Electro-Music Chamber Orchestra. Their composition will be an entirely new experiment in which the music is “conducted” by utilizing a complex numbering system, under the direction of Howard Moscovitz. This feast for the ears is also going to be a banquet for the eyes. State-of-the-art visuals will send the audience on a parallel trip presented by Azimuth Visuals. http://gregwaltzer.com/azimuth/azimuth.html Premier diva of computer-generated abstract images, animations and original artwork, Hong Waltzer will be processing and mixing video in real time. Inspired by the music being created onstage, her dynamic collages bring even more dimension to the oceans of music. Perfect for electronic music enthusiasts and old fashioned music-lovers alike, it’s also a great time to treat young musicians to sights and sounds they’ve never experienced before. Don’t miss an evening of boundary-breaking music making – get a real buzz – kick off Spring with the Electro-Music Chamber Orchestra. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 08:03:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED8A13BE84; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3E7CFA94-7525-4451-BCE4-BA4C049671F9@bartholomusic.com> From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--890672279 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy for live looping Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 03:03:14 -0500 References: <20080306122911.1wvaynjn4oogw4sc@webmail.carlsonarts.com> <29499.167.83.10.20.1204829187.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:03:19 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--890672279 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i have. apparently it will mean giving up some other more important features. go figure. that 1 feature will make it complete for me and many others but hey... all the other stuff is worth that price though. i have already gotten many many features added in so its not like he's ignoring me. --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Friday7,Mar 2008, at 9:34 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Why not ask for Undo to be implemented then? > > TH > > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Adrian Bartholomew > wrote: > > > plus, whatever u could conceive, just write to the maker and he will > implement it in the next update > --Apple-Mail-4--890672279 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have.
apparently it will = mean giving up some other more important features. go = figure.
that 1 feature will make it complete for me and many = others but hey...
all the other stuff is worth that price = though.

i =  have already gotten many many features added in so its not like = he's ignoring me.

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Friday7,Mar = 2008, at 9:34 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote:

Why not = ask for Undo to be implemented then?

TH

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 5:51 AM, Adrian Bartholomew = <adrian@bartholomusic.com> = wrote:


plus, whatever u could = conceive, just write to the maker and he will implement it in the next = update
=


= --Apple-Mail-4--890672279-- From clark0becca@aol.com Sun Mar 9 10:36:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from fyisvr1.freshyouth.org (67.111.174.226.ptr.us.xo.net [67.111.174.226]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1524C3BE79; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 10:36:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([217.118.0.121]) by fyisvr1.freshyouth.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 9 Mar 2008 06:33:45 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Rebecca Clarkson" Subject: Hope and Trust Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11.36.46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2008 10:33:46.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DD59BF0:01C881D1] To: undisclosed-recipients:; I am 28 Female,Rebecca Clarkson (5'6) from Ohio, United States of America. 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Thanks Rebecca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 16:42:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9E593BE8C; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1802 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 16:42:27 UTC Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:12:13 -0600 From: Shayne Cafferata Subject: SP-202/Smart Media 5v cards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <47D40C5D.4090107@sasktel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 16:42:27 +0000 (UTC) i just picked up an sp-202, unaware that they take the obsolete 5v smartmedia cards. does anyone have an extra or 2 kicking around? or is there a source anywhere for these? thanks, shayne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 18:05:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D38AA3BE80; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 674499952/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.66.178.135 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.178.135 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AncBABay00dPQrKH/2dsb2JhbAAIqRGCGQ Message-ID: <47D426EE.2090604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:05:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SP-202/Smart Media 5v cards References: <47D40C5D.4090107@sasktel.net> In-Reply-To: <47D40C5D.4090107@sasktel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1dNxfC.A.-lH.mbC1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Amazon has them Shayne Cafferata wrote: > i just picked up an sp-202, unaware that they take the obsolete 5v > smartmedia cards. does anyone have an extra or 2 kicking around? or is > there a source anywhere for these? > > thanks, > shayne > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 18:50:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F03D43BE84; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KXEngFkKG/g2DwxWPQfSQ9Ik8lyA7erX0x8wGNGHiSg=; b=WR6v0fmRInC3fC6elR0CszcIEhjhdeeqAAQP0BAEZM0ENO02KmiHKG0mYrCCrJ/iX0NBOyRtAxDCcUrO/FUGVS2aiza/tqBN7OgkORZH40KOP8S7gU0Rnay2acSrzGrrNrkbGtotuQ2fbUD+I+M2IqSVCUqmIXk9eEWLHt/+o1k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KO9EzMS7/4a3ATexD0jcANKGLjWSl+PtRGihJ68T+qkzQ0LzQl35ca5cfB05HezBNt1/72L2earZtD3nuoMcqL6rF7K5qJlH+CMr7YiJBv5JF/FEtMJHQdkQnGsnTyDtwkvd64ITy8d3P0q21rVB0pGAsw1hiTC8xB2mgsjFCC4= Message-ID: <64b81a780803091150o25678c51y6570eb9b34f777e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:50:11 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: oh...theres a tweek?!! In-Reply-To: <647331.34217.qm@web39209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4634_3550467.1205088611075" References: <20080306183418.5LBA3.205531.root@fepweb14> <647331.34217.qm@web39209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 18:50:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4634_3550467.1205088611075 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kyle, I've used a 1st generation Boomerang quite a bit and the only solution I've ever seen is simply making sure all the gain settings are consistent for your rig. After correctly setting the gain levels, my 'Rang and others I've seen are hiss free. The 'Rang includes a switch on the back for selecting the input gain and a knob for fine tuning the gain. If the switch isn't set correctly, the inclination will be turn turn the knob up to boost your input volume. This will also boost hiss. Flip the switch to the appropriate level first, then fiddle with the knob in small increments. Another common problem with any audio gear is ground loop hum and interference from other power sources. There are plenty of docs online for diagnosing and dealing with these issues. Really, the 'Rang is a pretty simple beast and there's not much more than those two things that can produce hiss. Though, I assume there's always a chance that your 'Rang may have a faulty doohickey in there somewhere. Good luck, Todd On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:49 AM, K D Patten wrote: > thanks for your in put ted....i was beginning to think i wasn't getting > through on the post...kyle > > > *tEd (R) kiLLiAn * wrote: > > Hi there, > > It's not that we're ignoring you. > > It's probably just that the very few (relatively) Boomerang users on this > list are away . . . or suffering from similar problems. > > The one that I know about, Michael Klobuchar, hasn't posted in a really > long time. > > The folks from the company that make the boomerang used to post every now > and then . . . some years back. > > But it's been a while since I've read or heard from any of the regular > Boomerang users. > > I suppose the rest of us just don't consider ourselves "experts" enough on > that particular device to give an informed answer. > > I have used a Boomerang a time or two . . . they do have their quirks. > > Your problem doesn't sound like typical Boomerang behavior. > > Whatever noise it may generate should not be THAT extreme. > > Look through the LD archives and find the most recent active poster who > mentions the Boomerang as their main looper of choice. > > If you find one, email them directly. > > They may not be currently "listening in" to the stream of mail coming from > LD. > > Good luck! > > [BTW I'm and EDP user mostly and sometimes use a DD-20] > > Cheers, > > tEd (R) kiLLiAn > > http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar > http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian > > Flux Aeterna: > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076 > Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: > http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm > And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian > And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4 > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121197000042 > http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=18131 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes > > ---- K D Patten wrote: > > how bought a response here guys?...Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:08 -0800 > (PST)----- Lurker surfacing with Boomerang head ache.........i know you guys > have probably dealt with this issue before but...how do you set a boomerang > to limit the background hiss?..I've tried putting an old rocktron micro hush > between the rang & the board ...the hiss is gone ..but total tone > suck.....any input?...thanks...kyle > > > > Kyle Dean PattenP.O. Box 22Johnston, IA 50131 > http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten > > > ------=_Part_4634_3550467.1205088611075 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kyle,

I've used a 1st generation Boomerang quite a bit and the only solution I've ever seen is simply making sure all the gain settings are consistent for your rig.  After correctly setting the gain levels, my 'Rang and others I've seen are hiss free.  The 'Rang includes a switch on the back for selecting the input gain and a knob for fine tuning the gain.  If the switch isn't set correctly, the inclination will be turn turn the knob up to boost your input volume.  This will also boost hiss.  Flip the switch to the appropriate level first, then fiddle with the knob in small increments.

Another common problem with any audio gear is ground loop hum and interference from other power sources.  There are plenty of docs online for diagnosing and dealing with these issues.

Really, the 'Rang is a pretty simple beast and there's not much more than those two things that can produce hiss.  Though, I assume there's always a chance that your 'Rang may have a faulty doohickey in there somewhere.

Good luck,
Todd


On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 4:49 AM, K D Patten <kdpatten@yahoo.com> wrote:
thanks for your in put ted....i was beginning to think i wasn't getting through on the post...kyle


tEd ® kiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net> wrote:
Hi there,

It's not that we're ignoring you.

It's probably just that the very few (relatively) Boomerang users on this list are away . . . or suffering from similar problems.

The one that I know about, Michael Klobuchar, hasn't posted in a really long time.

The folks from the company that make the boomerang used to post every now and then . . . some years back.

But it's been a while since I've read or heard from any of the regular Boomerang users.

I suppose the rest of us just don't consider ourselves "experts" enough on that particular device to give an informed answer.

I have used a Boomerang a time or two . . . they do have their quirks.

Your problem doesn't sound like typical Boomerang behavior.

Whatever noise it may generate should not be THAT extreme.

Look through the LD archives and find the most recent active poster who mentions the Boomerang as their main looper of choice.

If you find one, email them directly.

They may not be currently "listening in" to the stream of mail coming from LD.

Good luck!

[BTW I'm and EDP user mostly and sometimes use a DD-20]

Cheers,

tEd ® kiLLiAn

http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar
http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian

Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076
Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm
And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian
And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4

http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html
http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian
http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html
http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193
http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121197000042
http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=18131

Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes

---- K D Patten wrote:
> how bought a response here guys?...Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:12:08 -0800 (PST)----- Lurker surfacing with Boomerang head ache.........i know you guys have probably dealt with this issue before but...how do you set a boomerang to limit the background hiss?..I've tried putting an old rocktron micro hush between the rang & the board ...the hiss is gone ..but total tone suck.....any input?...thanks...kyle
>
> Kyle Dean PattenP.O. Box 22Johnston, IA 50131 http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kdpatten



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Sounds amazing - class line up. Can you record come? MS www.mattstevensguitar.com On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:54, Michael Peters wrote: > here's all information (in German): www.livelooping.de > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 19:01:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC5CE3BE99; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:01:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--851166866 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:01:39 -0500 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:01:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--851166866 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Friday7,Mar 2008, at 9:36 PM, phillip wilson wrote: > > > element one....this is the drum/rhythem elements....these are laied > down first and then put in a safe place to come back to (THIS TELLS > US THE LOOPER IS CAPABLE OF MULTIPLE TRACKS) not necessarily. the edp can record silently. u record then u hit mute. u never hear it, but its there. u just have to hope to god it was made properly for when u bring it into the song. > > > element three Delay fx.......at verious points the artist uses the > second behringer continous controller to add delay to his vocals, > this is done pre-loop as the loop is not effected...(THIS WOULD > SURGEST HE IS CONTROLING MORE THEN ONE UNIT FROM HIS MIDI PEDAL, > AGAIN THIS WOULD SURGEST TO ME A LAPTOP OR SIMILAR MAY WELL BE BEING > USED HOWEVER IT COULD ALSO BE A SECOND HARDWARE RACKMOUNTED > DELAY...IM JUST GUESSING WHAT I WOULD DO TO GET THIS). u could be right but it could be any one of many things. i personally have my 1010 midi'd to my yamaha 01v (the best thing since tuner pegs) for a musician. i have it control aux 7 send which sends the chosen signal to one of the mixer's internal delays. i set this delay time to midi clk. since the looperlative sends midi clk according to the loop set, my delay is always in time with the song. i further set the delay to the dotted 1/4 note value to get that Police/Floyd feel. its very transparent. i set a loop on the Looperlative, and anytime i want a delay on my guitar or voice, i ride one of the 2 footpedals on the 1010. i really dont have to do anything. and its in time!!! PS: ull need a 2 to 1 midi merger to do it though as the Looperlative has separate out and thru midi ports. its only 60 bucks at musicians friend. BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to anything on this forum. way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. > > > phill myonemanband > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > From: music@carlsonarts.com > > Subject: RE: What's the best vocal looper to buy > > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 22:18:43 -0800 > > > > The EDP sounds interesting. I want to be able to record a whole > > song, part by part, and solo over it vocally - this could require at > > least four parts in at least three sections. Check out Vocaloop.com > > for a guy who is doing what I have in mind. What equipment do you > > think he is using? I can't tell from the videos, but it looks like > > he's got LOTS of pedals on the floor. > > > > Also on youtube: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAtatKjDxEs > > > > And better yet: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l073tuzxoV0&feature=related > > (but skip to about 2:22 to hear the song I'm talking about. I won't > > tell you what song it is, but lets just say maybe in Scandinavia MJ > > is still PC.) > > > > So, would the 198 seconds in the EDP be enough to do what he is > > doing? is it expandable? It may be out of my price range for a > > first unit. I'd have to buy pedals for it too, right? Sweetwater > > lists it at $999. > > > > Michael C. > > > > > She said what? About who? Shameful celebrity quotes on Search Star! --Apple-Mail-7--851166866 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Friday7,Mar = 2008, at 9:36 PM, phillip wilson wrote:


 
element = one....this is the drum/rhythem elements....these are laied down first = and then put in a safe place to come back to (THIS TELLS US THE LOOPER = IS CAPABLE OF MULTIPLE TRACKS)

not necessarily. the edp can = record silently. u record then u hit mute. u never hear it, but its = there. u just have to hope to god it was made properly for when u bring = it into the song.
 
element three = Delay fx.......at verious points the artist uses the second behringer = continous controller to add delay to his vocals, this is done pre-loop = as the loop is not effected...(THIS WOULD SURGEST HE IS CONTROLING MORE = THEN ONE UNIT FROM HIS MIDI PEDAL, AGAIN THIS WOULD SURGEST TO ME A = LAPTOP OR SIMILAR MAY WELL BE BEING USED HOWEVER IT COULD ALSO BE A = SECOND HARDWARE RACKMOUNTED DELAY...IM JUST GUESSING WHAT I WOULD DO TO = GET THIS).

u could be right but it could = be any one of many things. i personally have my 1010 midi'd to my yamaha = 01v (the best thing since tuner pegs) for a musician. i have it control = aux 7 send which sends the chosen signal to one of the mixer's internal = delays. i set this delay time to midi clk. 
since the = looperlative sends midi clk according to the loop set, my delay is = always in time with the song. i further set the delay to the dotted 1/4 = note value to get that Police/Floyd feel. 
its very = transparent. i set a loop on the Looperlative, and anytime i want a = delay on my guitar or voice, i ride one of the 2 footpedals on the 1010. = i really dont have to do anything. and its in time!!!

PS: ull need a 2 to 1 midi = merger to do it though as the Looperlative has separate out and thru = midi ports. its only 60 bucks at musicians friend.


BUT DID YOU SEE = THAT???
the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo = problem!!! i havent seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever = respond to anything on this forum.
way to go Bob. ill start = calling YOU tuner peg. lol.
looking forward to the UNDO. = YESSSSSSSS.

 
phill = myonemanband
> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> From: music@carlsonarts.com
> = Subject: RE: What's the best vocal looper to buy
> Date: Thu, 6 = Mar 2008 22:18:43 -0800
> 
> The EDP sounds = interesting. I want to be able to record a whole 
> song, part by = part, and solo over it vocally - this could require at 
> least four parts = in at least three sections. Check out Vocaloop.com 
> for a guy who is = doing what I have in mind. What equipment do you 
> think he is using? = I can't tell from the videos, but it looks like 
> he's got LOTS of = pedals on the floor.
> 
> Also on = youtube:
> 
> http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DGAtatKjDxEs
> 
> And better = yet:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dl073tuzxoV0&feature=3Drelated> (but skip to about 2:22 to hear the song I'm talking about. I = won't 
> tell = you what song it is, but lets just say maybe in Scandinavia MJ 
> is still = PC.)
> 
> = So, would the 198 seconds in the EDP be enough to do what he is 
> doing? is it = expandable? It may be out of my price range for a 
> first unit. I'd = have to buy pedals for it too, right? Sweetwater 
> lists it at = $999.
> 
> = Michael C.
> 


She said = what? About who? Shameful celebrity = quotes on Search = Star!

= --Apple-Mail-7--851166866-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 19:08:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F6333BE9E; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080308022555.jy13ml6m7gokgk4s@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--850774396 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Best Vocal Looper Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 14:08:12 -0500 References: <20080307153436.988D93BEC3@arsenic.violacea.com> <20080308022555.jy13ml6m7gokgk4s@webmail.carlsonarts.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: <--7CHD.A.dCC.hWD1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 19:08:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--850774396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i said that u should spring for the Looperlative. it IS twice the price of the EDP but 16 times the tracks (8 stereo trks), 24 bit as opposed to 16 (huge diff in sound quality in case u didnt care) and 4 mins of recording time. and its always updated by the maker for the users based on their input on the looperlative forum. updating is easy. plug in ur mdems cat5 cable, set the menu to update (simple turning of the big knob) and hit enter. its done in mins. good luck. u could use ableton yes but between the software and hardware cost, i doubt ud fare much better than 15 c's. --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Saturday8,Mar 2008, at 1:25 AM, music@carlsonarts.com wrote: > Hey, my computer couldn't completely digest the digest, or it wasn't > served up right, so I didn't get Adrian's thoughts. Could you > please send them again, or send them directly to my email at music@carlsonarts.com > ? Thanks. I'm really eager to move ahead with this. > > Maybe I should reconsider going the software route, but I'd rather > not have to have a laptop in front of me when performing. It's bad > enough the pedals would make it look like I'm stomping on ants on > stage. And I currently don't have a laptop to use -- so that would > be added expense. I do have both a Mac G4 and a decent PC, though, > Mac has DP5 and pc has Protools LE. So I'm pretty computer savvy. > I have a demo of Ableton maybe I'll try it out and see what it does. > > But anyways, what about the video I posted? What do you think > vocaloop is using for equipment? > > Michael C. > > Thanks again. > --Apple-Mail-8--850774396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i said that u should spring for = the Looperlative. it IS twice the price of the EDP but 16 times the = tracks (8 stereo trks), 24 bit as opposed to 16 (huge diff in sound = quality in case u didnt care) and 4 mins of recording time.
and its = always updated by the maker for the users based on their input on the = looperlative forum.
updating is easy. plug in ur mdems cat5 = cable, set the menu to update (simple turning of the big knob) and hit = enter.
its done in mins.

good luck.

u could use ableton yes = but between the software and hardware cost, i doubt ud fare much better = than 15 c's.

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Saturday8,Mar = 2008, at 1:25 AM, music@carlsonarts.com = wrote:

Hey, my computer couldn't completely digest the digest, or = it wasn't served up right, so I didn't get Adrian's thoughts. =  Could you please send them again, or send them directly to my = email at music@carlsonarts.com? =  Thanks.  I'm really eager to move ahead with = this.

Maybe I should reconsider going the software route, but I'd = rather not have to have a laptop in front of me when performing. =  It's bad enough the pedals would make it look like I'm stomping on = ants on stage.  And I currently don't have a laptop to use -- so = that would be added expense.  I do have both a Mac G4 and a decent = PC, though, Mac has DP5 and pc has Protools LE.  So I'm pretty = computer savvy.  I have a demo of Ableton maybe I'll try it out and = see what it does.

But anyways, what about the video I posted? =  What do you think vocaloop is using for equipment?

Michael = C.

Thanks = again.


= --Apple-Mail-8--850774396-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 9 21:18:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE9D33BE97; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:18:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 683500499/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.66.178.135 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.178.135 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AncBALvv00dPQrKH/2dsb2JhbAAIqGaCGQ Message-ID: <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:18:39 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> In-Reply-To: <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4ITvUB.A.vSG.mQF1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 21:18:30 +0000 (UTC) > > BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? > the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent seen > the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to anything on > this forum. > way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. > looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >> EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand here. Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that brought you the EDP) maintains this list more or less at his own expense. , ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 03:01:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC39E3BE82; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:01:15 -0600 From: Shayne Cafferata Subject: Re: SP-202/Smart Media 5v cards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <47D4A47B.9090506@sasktel.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:01:24 +0000 (UTC) unfortunately, those all look like 3.3v thanks anyway, tho'. the 5v seem pretty rare these days. guess i'll be scouring music stores and camera shops for old stock. lucky me.... shayne > Amazon has them > Shayne Cafferata wrote: > i just picked up an sp-202, unaware that they take the obsolete 5v > smartmedia cards. does anyone have an extra or 2 kicking around? or is > there a source anywhere for these? > > thanks, > shayne > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 03:05:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E47F3BE81; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:05:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:05:26 -0300 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:05:53 +0000 (UTC) thank you for forwarding, Andy! this list grew out of making the EDP! I started a community in '92 with Eric, Willy, Ljubo, Michael Peters and others and '94 Kim joined and brought us on line in '96, together with another root that came from the DT list... and list members Andre LaFosse, Andy Butler, Claude Voit, Bernhard Wagner and others turned into makers of the EDP! many other loop tools grew out of this list and their makers like Bob, Mike, Jeff, Jesse, Os, Aaron,,, are more or less present. we also had visits of the older masters Gary Hall (PCM42), Bob Sellom (PCM42, JamMan) ! the products we create are not limited to the vision of some 9-5 engineers but turn into pools for all the ideas and wishes flying arround here... Looping is not so much a new technology as a new way to create, an new category of tools (neither instrument nor effect nor recorder...) and we even experience a new spirit of collaboration... some kind of a friendly industry branch? well, nobody made the big money yet, which usually attracts the sharks ;-) ...and Roland, who made the most money with the least suitable tool, is not present. I confess that I dont look through all LD mails any more :-( during many years I spent hours and hours to explain all I knew about the EDP and Art as clear and short as possible... so sometimes I dont answer because I think the answer is arround in the archives or with members that went into it and some things I forgot because I dont use it and was involved with other technology but some times I love to say something new and spend time for research and typing what is not my language... ...and recently I came back to programming for LOOP, so I may start questions here ;-) in any case, I am happy if you copy a mail to me privately if you feel its of interest for me or if you think I should say something about it! I hope I manage to make you the best vocal looper ;-) Matthias On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:18, andy butler wrote: > >> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? >> the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent >> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to >> anything on this forum. >> way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. >> looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >>> > > EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand > here. > > Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that > brought you the EDP) > maintains this list more or less at his own expense. > > , > ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 03:53:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E224B3BE7C; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:53:45 UTC Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:33:56 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance with the Neil Leonard Ensemble 03.15.08, Lowell MA To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing at the lovely 119 Gallery in Lowell this Saturday night with an old friend and a couple of new friends. 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TELEPHONE NUMBER:___________________ =0D =0D Hoping to hear from you. =0D =0D Thanks and God bless you and your family. =0D MR Remornde Stiving=0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D =0D From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 07:36:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C0653BE7C; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KisvVHmtCUU01WZ3J5gEqAOX8T6ypmjIGF9/ZiGp/E8=; b=QTV0BKrvMLDpEICcisA0qfD3PBnwuHR/FA69aUfT3mYqsdoVGD44WQEKYyiXX53N0d3j8ugltWAsS5vWtjSFxTHD1EZ3Fedz6yT4fiZ53g612+U4Xt/nLqbhW7846CeeXavfwk077tD5xDAn75B8QVbK7tUgBxrVnUemgz/AQ2I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=D5IZ8fWBZhYJq6jNZ0CscV0hyeSJOqx139OMBE/1J6Eeo6dRsGpTfG1+t3ZzbBWs6+oXRrKzJDpeCnp00RJuLvlTQXFdkObkE8eRRjILCwakE+wTVru6k7M3gnlFydbThFY5dQZQJ5QK5GUR1ruM9q63GMmV/C5QRyLxEjd9uNk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:36:49 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Livelooping Festival in Cologne May 31st In-Reply-To: <2B49BCCC-1125-4C44-89C4-854CE0F31083@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_53792_20100071.1205134609324" References: <002601c88217$0387cfb0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <2B49BCCC-1125-4C44-89C4-854CE0F31083@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:36:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_53792_20100071.1205134609324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline a big hoora for uncle michael for the effort of putting together such an excellent show and contributing to our comunity with his usual velvet kindness. ... i'm waiting for that bootleg recordings..... wish you a great time! raul. 2008/3/9, Matt Stevens : > > Wow!! > > Sounds amazing - class line up. Can you record come? > > MS > > www.mattstevensguitar.com > > > On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:54, Michael Peters wrote: > > > here's all information (in German): www.livelooping.de > > > > -Michael > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_53792_20100071.1205134609324 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline a big hoora for uncle michael for the effort
of putting together such an excellent show
and contributing to our comunity with his usual
velvet kindness.

... i'm waiting for that bootleg recordings.....

wish you a great time!
raul.

2008/3/9, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com>:
Wow!!

Sounds amazing - class line up.  Can you record come?

MS

www.mattstevensguitar.com


On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:54, Michael Peters wrote:

> here's all information (in German): www.livelooping.de
>
> -Michael
>




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_53792_20100071.1205134609324-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 07:42:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 795BE3BE80; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:42:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47D4E658.70600@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:42:16 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Review of Rainer Straschill's "Weird Specialist" - corrections References: <7A3E47BF-D2BA-4BAE-AF03-2BC38BC06B8B@surfbest.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5jOcFD.A.tDB.kZO1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:42:28 +0000 (UTC) After Rainer pointed out a few errors and omissions, I've made a few changes to my review of "Weird Specialist". http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Rainer_Straschill.htm Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 08:11:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40C513BE7F; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:11:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20080310081137140.223521C0008C@mwinf2007.orange.fr Message-ID: <47D4ED39.9000408@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:11:37 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Anybody ever played a tesla coil? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:11:39 +0000 (UTC) I just came across this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3ff_AXVlo9U Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 08:52:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A83093BE7C; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:52:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ME-UUID: 20080310085202149.246B97000097@mwinf2a26.orange.fr Message-ID: <47D4F6B2.4050206@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:52:02 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Taperecord Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:52:03 +0000 (UTC) I just have to share this, its pure creativity, fun and even sounds better than expected: http://www.f7sound.com/taperecord.htm Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 09:20:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69CC63BE81; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47D4FD48.6020308@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:20:08 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Taperecord References: <47D4F6B2.4050206@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <47D4F6B2.4050206@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:20:20 +0000 (UTC) Awesome! I love this guy, we've had discussions about cassette abuse, but I hadn't seen this record idea before. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I just have to share this, its pure creativity, fun and even sounds > better than expected: > > http://www.f7sound.com/taperecord.htm > > Stefan > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 09:35:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EA913BE81; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <47D4F6B2.4050206@addcom.de> Subject: RE: Taperecord Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:34:47 +0100 Message-ID: <003f01c88291$fcea6e30$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AciCkTkuxkqUF/oKTA6RP5kLAytjdgAAK1iw In-Reply-To: <47D4F6B2.4050206@addcom.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:35:19 +0000 (UTC) > I just have to share this, its pure creativity, fun and even sounds better than expected: > http://www.f7sound.com/taperecord.htm > Stefan wonderful !!! -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 11:11:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B7693BE7C; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:11:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_3c297952-6670-4b53-adb1-ed1fb31b4614_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.14.133] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:11:01 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2008 11:11:01.0737 (UTC) FILETIME=[6CD50590:01C8829F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:11:02 +0000 (UTC) --_3c297952-6670-4b53-adb1-ed1fb31b4614_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT???> >> the maker himself wrote in answer to the u= ndo problem!!! i havent > >> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP = ever respond to > >> anything on this forum. I feel I must also chime in here and say just how much Mattias, Andy Ewan a= nd others who have worked on the EDP HAVE helped me through this list. =20 I have had free and very one-to-one technical support, they have helped me = solve grounding issues, re-seat ram and other chips , give me clues to hook= ing up the monster Midi setup I am now using and even sent me the correct r= esistors when I decided to go off the reservation and build my own controll= er....c'mon THATS CUSTOMER SERVICE. =20 Im really glad you are getting input into Looperlative features and that is= good too but I for one am a very satified EDP and Loopers Delight member a= nd I feel I have grown up supported VERY well by its creators and technical= staff. =20 Phill MyOneManBand _________________________________________________________________ Free games, great prizes - get gaming at Gamesbox.=20 http://www.searchgamesbox.com= --_3c297952-6670-4b53-adb1-ed1fb31b4614_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT???
> >> the maker himself wr= ote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent
> >> seen the RA= NG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to
> >> anythi= ng on this forum.

I feel I must also chime in here and say just how much Mattias, Andy Ewan&n= bsp;and others who have worked on the EDP HAVE helped me through this list.=
 
I have had free and very one-to-one technical support, they have helped me = solve grounding issues, re-seat ram and other chips , give me clues to hook= ing up the monster Midi setup I am now using and even sent me the correct r= esistors when I decided to go off the reservation and build my own controll= er....c'mon THATS CUSTOMER SERVICE.
 
Im really glad you are getting input into Looperlative features and that is= good too but I for one am a very satified EDP and Loopers Delight member a= nd I feel I have grown up supported VERY well by its creators and technical= staff.
 
Phill MyOneManBand

She said what? About who? Shameful celebrity quotes on Sear= ch Star! = --_3c297952-6670-4b53-adb1-ed1fb31b4614_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 11:20:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FCF53BE87; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 694718780/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.135.69 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.135.69 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AncBAD621EdPSodF/2dsb2JhbAAIqFWCGQ Message-ID: <47D51885.3010701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:16:21 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SP-202/Smart Media 5v cards References: <47D4A47B.9090506@sasktel.net> In-Reply-To: <47D4A47B.9090506@sasktel.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Try www.amazon.co.uk Some of the illustrations are definitely of 5V cards. Ebay has them Shayne Cafferata wrote: > unfortunately, those all look like 3.3v > thanks anyway, tho'. > the 5v seem pretty rare these days. guess i'll be scouring music stores > and camera shops for old stock. lucky me.... > > shayne > >> Amazon has them >> Shayne Cafferata wrote: >> i just picked up an sp-202, unaware that they take the obsolete 5v >> smartmedia cards. does anyone have an extra or 2 kicking around? or is >> there a source anywhere for these? >> >> thanks, >> shayne >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 13:26:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F2A03BE86; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=flj5j8dPN+/AwRIyYtMOesyHHBkO2VVuuIUMTNsEper/i9T+tG926xXAmDQn/2SS1Lf5Cfz4XaZfTFphtHKdAMqbtFL8c1Y2Cjhg1Idrrb8ORDwLj1gxQsSRkT1QmjYPOEMitvP3qM4JNNhEYiGYWm3hsJX38/9iknJpmyBa2iQ=; X-YMail-OSG: GsHPzWEVM1nIsMpXu8CCZo_T2Z_m51lDQJqPzIBS.r_AVbGj5OQ_Af40H6ItmiWt079bWT7mQiLUu4hBXl4UULUzjzLqfHcSF0Nq2gTFefYbsAw4H3o- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:26:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Taperecord To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <47D4F6B2.4050206@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-139924428-1205155565=:52053" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <623936.52053.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:26:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-139924428-1205155565=:52053 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I prefer gluing insects to thread and watching them fly in circles. They won't let me have anything sharp in here. Stefan Tiedje wrote: I just have to share this, its pure creativity, fun and even sounds better than expected: http://www.f7sound.com/taperecord.htm Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-139924428-1205155565=:52053 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I prefer gluing insects to thread and watching them fly in circles. They won't let me have anything sharp in here.

Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote:
I just have to share this, its pure creativity, fun and even sounds
better than expected:

http://www.f7sound.com/taperecord.htm

Stefan

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Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-139924428-1205155565=:52053-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 13:40:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84BA63BE90; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jFMjtPWyuU8FStdGmVgc5nFex3voLrSCI40wDSKw9+g=; b=FtYXXxePCgFZSiT18gepnwpwH01omQfepD77zy1KSEkKYk5PYvu8qBCzIsEgGXXgKVxsOGtLCpuv1B6tyxiuhtSekIIry+U1qM5wg1mRuO0bHzQnMbaYzqv6eHF7z6psIMU4M8fcTMmB8pRvpAGiLK+UuuURA99qPBn2FLHvORQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OJDnxtJ5TrYyMANSBfgazORcPE8Rq83IHAgTkJIEXCVDKIM5ITTiv5VoApfz68NDh5adxZwd3PpEI5sXU2SS6NlJpkLhHx2K6+uErzTDYsoIFBiABVnLebiIgYyfZ266ovaGBYmx8s0nwAbCcDk9xNny6m7bbvdpC7AeZGyQL4Q= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:40:55 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anybody ever played a tesla coil? In-Reply-To: <47D4ED39.9000408@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28707_29355300.1205156455441" References: <47D4ED39.9000408@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:40:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_28707_29355300.1205156455441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline By strange coincidence, we just had a Tesla coil concert Friday here at the University of Illinois for Engineering Open House. I was playing one of the Tesla coils from the Continuum Fingerboard while the other one was being played by a MIDI sequence. There are some videos on YouTube of it: http://youtube.com/results?search_query=tesla+illinois&search_type= It was a team effort. Credits: Steve Ward and Jeff Larson: Tesla coil construction, MIDI interface Lippold Haken: Continuum Fingerboard invention, design, construction and programming of Tesla interface Mike Novak: Drums on backing track Me: Lead Tesla coil, bass coil sequencing, guitar and keyboards on backing track, wrote the music It was fun despite the extreme cold temperatures. We still had a pretty good crowd. I originally thought about trying to LOOP a Tesla coil with a microphone & Echoplex, but gave up on that idea in favor of sequencing and backing tracks. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_28707_29355300.1205156455441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
By strange coincidence, we just had a Tesla coil concert Friday here at the University of Illinois for Engineering Open House. I was playing one of the Tesla coils from the Continuum Fingerboard while the other one was being played by a MIDI sequence. There are some videos on YouTube of it:
 
 
It was a team effort.
 
Credits:
 
Steve Ward and Jeff Larson: Tesla coil construction, MIDI interface
Lippold Haken: Continuum Fingerboard invention, design, construction and programming of Tesla interface
Mike Novak: Drums on backing track
Me: Lead Tesla coil, bass coil sequencing, guitar and keyboards on backing track, wrote the music
 
It was fun despite the extreme cold temperatures. We still had a pretty good crowd.
 
I originally thought about trying to LOOP a Tesla coil with a microphone & Echoplex, but gave up on that idea in favor of sequencing and backing tracks.
 
------=_Part_28707_29355300.1205156455441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 16:37:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BEF33BE87; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:37:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b301c882cd$0f304f70$0300000a@erdem> From: "Erdem Helvacioglu" To: Subject: marshall jmp-1 - OFF TOPIC Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:37:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C882DD.D2808340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:37:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C882DD.D2808340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, i have been playing the marshall jmp-1 preamp on some new recordings. I = have noticed a considerable amount of hiss even though I use the clean = channel with speaker simulation. did anyone else experince this problem? = i would like to change the tubes. which brands would you recommend for = that? sorry this a little off topic. thanks and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA131 www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C882DD.D2808340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi,
 
i have been playing the marshall jmp-1 preamp on some new = recordings. I=20 have noticed a considerable amount of hiss even though I use the clean = channel=20 with speaker simulation. did anyone else experince this problem? i would = like to=20 change the tubes. which brands would you recommend for that?
 
sorry this a little off topic.
 
thanks and best regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA131
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
------=_NextPart_000_00B0_01C882DD.D2808340-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 16:54:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8DAC3BE8C; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=qGzS5wfoAg6i2GQFq2YpLqUdfrJnvLBq6byyp/crMbY=; b=bjgJAN5VstYL6cercbAQ4Qf1LCiasjSGqDs+tdc2MIXs19aXJ6LngtRBKBHWwnHTeEik+ou27zm3tPyMow2EvXojKNNv357fAUsrJs09jNkcZEutsRx6vAE/B0Ju5uhvD+ApksGdjnMSzh5PueXmSJ46pgicqE5xY6gLrhAbmWw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=InFqvdYdzf7/SW2vMO6aGsz0d7tfeQLDRsE0Vtu3FcPEw1S4++THQ++tVQgOmAGkLY8jMrBNdQsr4OP+6LWbN52MEZju6YBk5gDgBPpvZQ62EBL9mlisZbKd98qpqVETFHZr/3TRkTZvXMSI8izAuNmxs1k9f2SgxqNj1zfXdY0= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803100954r596d90bej83eda5bf59794532@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:54:51 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: marshall jmp-1 - OFF TOPIC In-Reply-To: <00b301c882cd$0f304f70$0300000a@erdem> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00b301c882cd$0f304f70$0300000a@erdem> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:54:52 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > > > hi, > > i have been playing the marshall jmp-1 preamp on some new recordings. I have > noticed a considerable amount of hiss even though I use the clean channel > with speaker simulation. did anyone else experince this problem? i would > like to change the tubes. which brands would you recommend for that? I like the 12AX7A type. They are used in the Sovtek tube amp I have here and that sound is awesome! Also, when doing "tube tests" I have notices that I like that type the most. Some guys say different brands sound different but that's beyond my experience to air an opinion on. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 17:09:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98C773BE8B; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <76035CC2-B169-4069-9A2A-AFF7418A7FA7@bartholomusic.com> From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--771528151 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:08:58 -0500 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:09:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-15--771528151 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit u know, un researched comments like that is what causes the destruction of the group conscious IQ. i am sorry. u r right. but i have not seen the Rang owners. i know one of them in person. great great guy. visited his home. never saw him here though. --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Sunday9,Mar 2008, at 4:18 PM, andy butler wrote: > >> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? >> the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent >> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to >> anything on this forum. >> way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. >> looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >>> > > EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand > here. > > Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that > brought you the EDP) > maintains this list more or less at his own expense. > > , > ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. > > andy butler > > --Apple-Mail-15--771528151 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable u know, un researched comments = like that is what causes the destruction of the = group conscious IQ.
i am sorry. u r right.

but i have not seen the = Rang owners. i know one of them in person. great great guy. visited his = home. never saw him here though.

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Sunday9,Mar = 2008, at 4:18 PM, andy butler wrote:


BUT DID YOU SEE = THAT???
the maker himself = wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent seen the RANG owners or = the makers of the EDP ever respond to anything on this = forum.
way to go Bob. ill = start calling YOU tuner peg. lol.
looking forward to the UNDO. = YESSSSSSSS.


EDP "maker", and = inventor of Undo,  Matthias Grob is always on hand here.

Kim = Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that brought you = the EDP)
maintains this list more or less at his own = expense.

,
...not to detract from Bob's achievement and = dedication of course.

andy = butler



= --Apple-Mail-15--771528151-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 17:10:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D01033BE9E; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16--771468297 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:09:58 -0500 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:10:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-16--771468297 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him here. now i have not been here all the time so.... --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Sunday9,Mar 2008, at 10:05 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > thank you for forwarding, Andy! > > this list grew out of making the EDP! > I started a community in '92 with Eric, Willy, Ljubo, Michael Peters > and others and '94 Kim joined and brought us on line in '96, > together with another root that came from the DT list... > and list members Andre LaFosse, Andy Butler, Claude Voit, Bernhard > Wagner and others turned into makers of the EDP! > > many other loop tools grew out of this list and their makers like > Bob, Mike, Jeff, Jesse, Os, Aaron,,, are more or less present. > we also had visits of the older masters Gary Hall (PCM42), Bob > Sellom (PCM42, JamMan) ! > the products we create are not limited to the vision of some 9-5 > engineers but turn into pools for all the ideas and wishes flying > arround here... > > Looping is not so much a new technology as a new way to create, an > new category of tools (neither instrument nor effect nor > recorder...) and we even experience a new spirit of collaboration... > some kind of a friendly industry branch? > well, nobody made the big money yet, which usually attracts the > sharks ;-) > ...and Roland, who made the most money with the least suitable tool, > is not present. > > I confess that I dont look through all LD mails any more :-( > during many years I spent hours and hours to explain all I knew > about the EDP and Art as clear and short as possible... > so sometimes I dont answer because I think the answer is arround in > the archives or with members that went into it > and some things I forgot because I dont use it and was involved with > other technology > but some times I love to say something new and spend time for > research and typing what is not my language... > ...and recently I came back to programming for LOOP, so I may start > questions here ;-) > > in any case, I am happy if you copy a mail to me privately if you > feel its of interest for me > or if you think I should say something about it! > > I hope I manage to make you the best vocal looper ;-) > Matthias > > On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:18, andy butler wrote: > >> >>> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? >>> the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent >>> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to >>> anything on this forum. >>> way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. >>> looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >>>> >> >> EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand >> here. >> >> Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that >> brought you the EDP) >> maintains this list more or less at his own expense. >> >> , >> ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. >> >> andy butler >> >> > --Apple-Mail-16--771468297 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thats right. mike's his name. i = never saw him here.
now i have not been here all the time = so....

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Sunday9,Mar = 2008, at 10:05 PM, Matthias Grob wrote:

thank you = for forwarding, Andy!

this list grew out of making the EDP!
I = started a community in '92 with Eric, Willy, Ljubo, Michael Peters and = others and '94 Kim joined and brought us on line in '96, together with = another root that came from the DT list...
and list members Andre = LaFosse, Andy Butler, Claude Voit, Bernhard Wagner and others turned = into makers of the EDP!

many other loop tools grew out of this = list and their makers like Bob, Mike, Jeff, Jesse, Os, Aaron,,, are more = or less present.
we also had visits of the older masters Gary Hall = (PCM42), Bob Sellom (PCM42, JamMan) !
the products we create are not = limited to the vision of some 9-5 engineers but turn into pools for all = the ideas and wishes flying arround here...

Looping is not so = much a new technology as a new way to create, an new category of tools = (neither instrument nor effect nor recorder...) and we even experience a = new spirit of collaboration... some kind of a friendly industry = branch?
well, nobody made the big money yet, which usually attracts = the sharks ;-)
...and Roland, who made the most money with the least = suitable tool, is not present.

I confess that I dont look through = all LD mails any more :-(
during many years I spent hours and hours = to explain all I knew about the EDP and Art as clear and short as = possible...
so sometimes I dont answer because I think the answer is = arround in the archives or with members that went into it
and some = things I forgot because I dont use it and was involved with other = technology
but some times I love to say something new and spend time = for research and typing what is not my language...
...and recently I = came back to programming for LOOP, so I may start questions here = ;-)

in any case, I am happy if you copy a mail to me privately if = you feel its of interest for me
or if you think I should say = something about it!

I hope I manage to make you the best vocal = looper ;-)
Matthias

On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:18, andy butler = wrote:


BUT DID YOU SEE = THAT???
the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! = i havent seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to = anything on this forum.
way to go Bob. ill start calling = YOU tuner peg. lol.
looking forward to the UNDO. = YESSSSSSSS.


EDP "maker", = and inventor of Undo,  Matthias Grob is always on hand = here.

Kim Flint, his = erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that brought you the = EDP)
maintains this list more = or less at his own expense.

,
...not to = detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of = course.

andy = butler




= --Apple-Mail-16--771468297-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 17:20:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B25FE3BE90; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:20:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=so7rmfWRZZqJfcYVBcKjInXMx6F+/by/atsKvo7ExNY=; b=Kfpc+v2JKxbsP4zgUo1bFpyv1BnwaIBq/EIVQRGqKbwSdiFpPe7GUQFuJ7gj6VHSzDJnV9lmYzQ72MuGVoB3aLwU3KhvvwoFuxfNdhP+vvYU0spkJrC33OGhbI3OjgZkIRJRS3/BG+QegQ4BNOID3zOgKqv92cWRFO9Ws92QKqI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qi6fX0mEDsENTAJ1oI2vXQzcTphKTWcKEgzoW5m/MJdkQi23fsEl0IBQcYjYawD9BeC1d2GCDPeSu2ok4Nsdl3R+HRIfBxklEM4CtV24iX22rFQNGCa8E22srTCv+gKAy7nX3OGcyR9RclUHrWNNmxrvnp8zSTIEpWlQ/glq0AQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 10:20:26 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What's the best vocal looper to buy In-Reply-To: <76035CC2-B169-4069-9A2A-AFF7418A7FA7@bartholomusic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49287_20850978.1205169626697" References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <76035CC2-B169-4069-9A2A-AFF7418A7FA7@bartholomusic.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1bzP8.A.usF.f3W1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:20:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49287_20850978.1205169626697 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Mike Nelson has posted here in the past. He's also very good about responding to direct emails or phone calls. TH On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Adrian Bartholomew < adrian@bartholomusic.com> wrote: > > > but i have not seen the Rang owners. i know one of them in person. great > great guy. visited his home. never saw him here though. > > --*Adrian Bartholomew* > > ------=_Part_49287_20850978.1205169626697 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Mike Nelson has posted here in the past.  He's also very good about responding to direct emails or phone calls.

TH

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Adrian Bartholomew <adrian@bartholomusic.com> wrote:


but i have not seen the Rang owners. i know one of them in person. great great guy. visited his home. never saw him here though.


--Adrian Bartholomew


------=_Part_49287_20850978.1205169626697-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 18:14:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D58F53BE8B; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009f01c882da$a14e16f0$6801a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <00b301c882cd$0f304f70$0300000a@erdem> Subject: Re: marshall jmp-1 - OFF TOPIC Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:14:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009C_01C882A8.55FC16C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:14:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C882A8.55FC16C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just went through this exercise on my Fender Pro Junior, which is = known for it's noise and over brighness with stock tubes. I bought some = of the new Mesa Boogie SPAX7 tubes, and the results were outstanding. It = sounds like a new amp. Quit, warmer, etc. http://mesa.stores.yahoo.net/spax7.html (they are legit replacement of = the 12AX7. More here: = http://www.mesaboogie.com/US/What_s_New_/Amplitudes/Tone_Tips/tone_tips.h= tml The SPAX7 The Mesa SPAX7 is a 12AX7 that during our in-house testing processes is = found to have a significantly quieter and more stable response to high = volume and gain applications. If a fledgeling 12AX7 passes its first = test, it is tested a second time under more stringent listening = conditions and even higher volume and gain levels. If the young SP = passes this second test, it is outfitted with a sleek layer of shrink = wrap that helps shield the tube even further from field and transformer = noise. We recommend using the SPAX7 in input preamp stages (usually = located nearest the input jacks), as the input stage is generally the = most volatile. An SPAX7 input tube will lay the foundation for a quiet = and stable amplifier in the highest of gain and volume applications, and = is a sure winner when playing microphonic musical chairs in search of = that troublesome squealing or crackling preamp tube.=20 Tien Lawrence Boogie Customer Support=20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 hi, i have been playing the marshall jmp-1 preamp on some new recordings. = I have noticed a considerable amount of hiss even though I use the clean = channel with speaker simulation. did anyone else experince this problem? = i would like to change the tubes. which brands would you recommend for = that? sorry this a little off topic. thanks and best regards. Erdem Helvacioglu www.erdemhelvacioglu.com www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine www.newalbion.com/NA131 = www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D8-1= /qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8 ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C882A8.55FC16C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just went through this exercise on my = Fender Pro=20 Junior, which is known for it's noise and over brighness with stock = tubes. I=20 bought some of the new Mesa Boogie SPAX7 tubes, and the results were=20 outstanding. It sounds like a new amp. Quit, warmer, etc.
 
http://mesa.stores.yahoo= .net/spax7.html (they=20 are legit replacement of the 12AX7.
 
More here: http://www.mesaboogie.com/US/What_s_New_/Amplitudes/Tone_Tip= s/tone_tips.html
 

The=20 SPAX7

The Mesa = SPAX7 is a=20 12AX7 that during our in-house testing processes is found to have a=20 significantly quieter and more stable response to high volume and gain=20 applications. If a fledgeling 12AX7 passes its first test, it is tested = a=20 second time under  more stringent listening conditions and = even=20 higher volume and gain levels. If the young SP passes this second test, = it is=20 outfitted with a sleek layer of shrink wrap that helps shield the tube = even=20 further from field and transformer noise. We recommend using the SPAX7 = in input=20 preamp stages (usually located nearest the input jacks), as the input = stage is=20 generally the most volatile. An SPAX7 input tube will lay the foundation = for a=20 quiet and stable amplifier in the highest of gain and volume = applications, and=20 is a sure winner when playing microphonic musical chairs in search of = that=20 troublesome squealing or crackling preamp tube.

Tien Lawrence
Boogie Customer Support =

 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
 

hi,
 
i have been playing the marshall jmp-1 preamp on some new = recordings. I=20 have noticed a considerable amount of hiss even though I use the clean = channel=20 with speaker simulation. did anyone else experince this problem? i = would like=20 to change the tubes. which brands would you recommend for that?
 
sorry this a little off topic.
 
thanks and best regards.
 
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on=20 New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About = Jazz=20 Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA131
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A= /sr=3D8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF= 8
------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C882A8.55FC16C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 18:15:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84F243BEA9; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE: Marshall JMP-1 Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:14:14 -0700 Message-ID: <002c01c8833f$2380a1b0$6501a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AciDPXBovgn4XdJZQQSKYo8Q/mDchwAACXJA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:15:03 +0000 (UTC) For the last few years I have been using JJ's brand ECC-83 tubes (European for 12AX7) J.J tubes are made in the former Tesla factory in the Slovak Republic, and use the better quality glass than most tube manufacturers in the business. Several tube techs and repairmen I know swear by them. You can get them under other brand names like Groove Tubes but be sure they have and S as the end letter (as in Slovakia) Not R (Russian), or C (Chinese). The JJ's tubes have the least microphonics and noise of any new tubes I've used and they seem to last longer as well. The other approach if you can find them is to invest in a couple of NOS tubes, They are very expensive, will set you back upwards of 50-80 per tube. Of these brands, I'd look for Mullard (not the new brand, originals ones) Telefunken, Amperex, or Valvo. Any of these if you can find them will last forever and sound better than most anything currently being produced. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 18:25:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A37233BEBE; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:24:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:25:05 +0000 (UTC) The Rang maker, Mike, indeed hasn't been present. While he is a nice guy and easy to deal with, I have noticed a certain "commercial arrogance" from him with regards to some of the noise problems, as in, "That's the way it's designed, not everyone has a problem like you, so do someting else." Now that something else might work, but it's another $200! I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is so LOW on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product development for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I was in the business of making loopers. c'est la vie.... ~peace~ Plish > thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him here. > now i have not been here all the time so.... > > --Adrian Bartholomew > Quincy, IL > "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." > > On Sunday9,Mar 2008, at 10:05 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: > >> thank you for forwarding, Andy! >> >> this list grew out of making the EDP! >> I started a community in '92 with Eric, Willy, Ljubo, Michael Peters >> and others and '94 Kim joined and brought us on line in '96, >> together with another root that came from the DT list... >> and list members Andre LaFosse, Andy Butler, Claude Voit, Bernhard >> Wagner and others turned into makers of the EDP! >> >> many other loop tools grew out of this list and their makers like >> Bob, Mike, Jeff, Jesse, Os, Aaron,,, are more or less present. >> we also had visits of the older masters Gary Hall (PCM42), Bob >> Sellom (PCM42, JamMan) ! >> the products we create are not limited to the vision of some 9-5 >> engineers but turn into pools for all the ideas and wishes flying >> arround here... >> >> Looping is not so much a new technology as a new way to create, an >> new category of tools (neither instrument nor effect nor >> recorder...) and we even experience a new spirit of collaboration... >> some kind of a friendly industry branch? >> well, nobody made the big money yet, which usually attracts the >> sharks ;-) >> ...and Roland, who made the most money with the least suitable tool, >> is not present. >> >> I confess that I dont look through all LD mails any more :-( >> during many years I spent hours and hours to explain all I knew >> about the EDP and Art as clear and short as possible... >> so sometimes I dont answer because I think the answer is arround in >> the archives or with members that went into it >> and some things I forgot because I dont use it and was involved with >> other technology >> but some times I love to say something new and spend time for >> research and typing what is not my language... >> ...and recently I came back to programming for LOOP, so I may start >> questions here ;-) >> >> in any case, I am happy if you copy a mail to me privately if you >> feel its of interest for me >> or if you think I should say something about it! >> >> I hope I manage to make you the best vocal looper ;-) >> Matthias >> >> On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:18, andy butler wrote: >> >>> >>>> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? >>>> the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent >>>> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to >>>> anything on this forum. >>>> way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. >>>> looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >>>>> >>> >>> EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand >>> here. >>> >>> Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that >>> brought you the EDP) >>> maintains this list more or less at his own expense. >>> >>> , >>> ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. >>> >>> andy butler >>> >>> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 18:31:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4156E3BE97; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1c3ywltDq6cuhB9Vdcum1QUa2iJel2W5/24pqvVFiWE=; b=i7Vsk/uKQo7MT/BBztcJQr/w5FOrNfaSReda6fPenwjToCm3sUh7L6daLKXuR+GkqPsFrHp22+pPhyzt3/JeBet2E41VY3mF+he1ct/FlhDqjBfZoiJa4EshffPdJrQ4jA7wIXvbPRP+y1fdJLqgQcV2sxjzqjCF1FhOIxP5q+Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=f6uFskJX1jBglb/Aa+7YvnlQJzTn7xgI9p0NhE09ywRyJXFVo+XHjWlDrYYpYlpYEYv1JuTD1GDSy3hlYNNB2uOYsnk6EGKwhS2pdr3W+tZC1OySTQzlyXDD7RCYs7vlVisJjtaB7SBpNUF3OyQ57IiMpEP3xcTPRWv5IqVF6nk= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:31:05 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) In-Reply-To: <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49824_29818152.1205173865552" References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7crzG.A.F0.q5X1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:31:07 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49824_29818152.1205173865552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline How do you know the list is low on the radar of looping companies? Just because they don't make themselves known on a regular basis, doesn't mean that they're not here. TH On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM, wrote: > > > I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is so LOW > on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product development > for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I was in > the business of making loopers. > > c'est la vie.... > > ~peace~ > Plish > > ------=_Part_49824_29818152.1205173865552 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline How do you know the list is low on the radar of looping companies?  Just because they don't make themselves known on a regular basis, doesn't mean that they're not here.

TH

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:


I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is so LOW
on the radar scopes of looping companies.  I've done product development
for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I was in
the business of making loopers.

c'est la vie....

~peace~
Plish


------=_Part_49824_29818152.1205173865552-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 19:08:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C663BE97; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:08:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803100954r596d90bej83eda5bf59794532@mail.gmail.com> References: <00b301c882cd$0f304f70$0300000a@erdem> <66f9cc1e0803100954r596d90bej83eda5bf59794532@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: marshall jmp-1 - OFF TOPIC Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:08:34 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:08:49 +0000 (UTC) I love the tube guys. Working that hard to find the exact right tubes. I wish I had less to worry about and more free time, then I could find that killer pre-war tungsten 12ax7. On Mar 10, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu > wrote: >> >> >> hi, >> >> i have been playing the marshall jmp-1 preamp on some new >> recordings. I have >> noticed a considerable amount of hiss even though I use the clean >> channel >> with speaker simulation. did anyone else experince this problem? i >> would >> like to change the tubes. which brands would you recommend for that? > > > I like the 12AX7A type. They are used in the Sovtek tube amp I have > here and that sound is awesome! Also, when doing "tube tests" I have > notices that I like that type the most. Some guys say different brands > sound different but that's beyond my experience to air an opinion on. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 19:10:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6212A3BEC5; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1169 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:09:54 UTC X-Spam-Abuse: Please report all spam/abuse matters to abuse@bulldogdsl.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on mcr-smtp-001.bulldogdsl.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=8.0 tests=HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE, MSGID_FROM_MTA_ID autolearn=disabled version=3.1.0 From: "Andy Ewen" To: Subject: RE: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:50:11 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C882DF.92ECCED0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciC3OgwTlp9SzyQSj6SYOR1epUKjQAAdT4g Message-Id: <20080310185011.21C4970C0D8@mcr-smtp-001.bulldogdsl.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:10:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C882DF.92ECCED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mm, I check the list daily to see if there is anything I can help with = but as Matthias pointed out, many answers can be found in the archives; = pretty much most questions & problems regarding the Echoplex have been asked in = the 10 years I=92ve been involved. :-)=20 =20 One of us will usually chip in once that resource is exhausted. =20 Andy Ewen, Echoplex Production Manager. =20 _____ =20 From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com]=20 Sent: 10 March 2008 18:31 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) =20 How do you know the list is low on the radar of looping companies? Just because they don't make themselves known on a regular basis, doesn't = mean that they're not here. TH On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM, wrote: I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is so = LOW on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product development for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I was in the business of making loopers. c'est la vie.... ~peace~ Plish =20 =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1323 - Release Date: = 10/03/2008 11:07 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1323 - Release Date: = 10/03/2008 11:07 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C882DF.92ECCED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Mm, I check the list daily to see if there is anything I can help with but as = Matthias pointed out, many answers can be found in the archives; pretty much most questions & problems regarding the Echoplex have been asked in the = 10 years I’ve been involved. J

  

One of us will usually chip in once that resource is = exhausted.

 

Andy Ewen,

Echoplex Production Manager.

 

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How do you = know the list is low on the radar of looping companies?  Just because they don't = make themselves known on a regular basis, doesn't mean that they're not = here.

TH

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I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is so = LOW
on the radar scopes of looping companies.  I've done product = development
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the business of making loopers.

c'est la vie....

~peace~
Plish

 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C882DF.92ECCED0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 19:12:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2D5B3BED0; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <66F8B5BC-82A7-4BFA-841B-818DF10EE328@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:11:59 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <_jrE4B.A.0pC.1gY1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Don't forget Butchie "RC" Roland. You cant get that guy to shut up. The problem is, is you can never hear the first 2 words of anything he says. On Mar 10, 2008, at 2:24 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > The Rang maker, Mike, indeed hasn't been present. While he is a > nice guy > and easy to deal with, I have noticed a certain "commercial arrogance" > from him with regards to some of the noise problems, as in, "That's > the > way it's designed, not everyone has a problem like you, so do someting > else." Now that something else might work, but it's another $200! > > I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is > so LOW > on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product > development > for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I > was in > the business of making loopers. > > c'est la vie.... > > ~peace~ > Plish > > >> thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him here. >> now i have not been here all the time so.... >> >> --Adrian Bartholomew >> Quincy, IL >> "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." >> >> On Sunday9,Mar 2008, at 10:05 PM, Matthias Grob wrote: >> >>> thank you for forwarding, Andy! >>> >>> this list grew out of making the EDP! >>> I started a community in '92 with Eric, Willy, Ljubo, Michael Peters >>> and others and '94 Kim joined and brought us on line in '96, >>> together with another root that came from the DT list... >>> and list members Andre LaFosse, Andy Butler, Claude Voit, Bernhard >>> Wagner and others turned into makers of the EDP! >>> >>> many other loop tools grew out of this list and their makers like >>> Bob, Mike, Jeff, Jesse, Os, Aaron,,, are more or less present. >>> we also had visits of the older masters Gary Hall (PCM42), Bob >>> Sellom (PCM42, JamMan) ! >>> the products we create are not limited to the vision of some 9-5 >>> engineers but turn into pools for all the ideas and wishes flying >>> arround here... >>> >>> Looping is not so much a new technology as a new way to create, an >>> new category of tools (neither instrument nor effect nor >>> recorder...) and we even experience a new spirit of collaboration... >>> some kind of a friendly industry branch? >>> well, nobody made the big money yet, which usually attracts the >>> sharks ;-) >>> ...and Roland, who made the most money with the least suitable tool, >>> is not present. >>> >>> I confess that I dont look through all LD mails any more :-( >>> during many years I spent hours and hours to explain all I knew >>> about the EDP and Art as clear and short as possible... >>> so sometimes I dont answer because I think the answer is arround in >>> the archives or with members that went into it >>> and some things I forgot because I dont use it and was involved with >>> other technology >>> but some times I love to say something new and spend time for >>> research and typing what is not my language... >>> ...and recently I came back to programming for LOOP, so I may start >>> questions here ;-) >>> >>> in any case, I am happy if you copy a mail to me privately if you >>> feel its of interest for me >>> or if you think I should say something about it! >>> >>> I hope I manage to make you the best vocal looper ;-) >>> Matthias >>> >>> On 9 Mar 2008, at 18:18, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> BUT DID YOU SEE THAT??? >>>>> the maker himself wrote in answer to the undo problem!!! i havent >>>>> seen the RANG owners or the makers of the EDP ever respond to >>>>> anything on this forum. >>>>> way to go Bob. ill start calling YOU tuner peg. lol. >>>>> looking forward to the UNDO. YESSSSSSSS. >>>>>> >>>> >>>> EDP "maker", and inventor of Undo, Matthias Grob is always on hand >>>> here. >>>> >>>> Kim Flint, his erstwhile partner in Aurisis (the company that >>>> brought you the EDP) >>>> maintains this list more or less at his own expense. >>>> >>>> , >>>> ...not to detract from Bob's achievement and dedication of course. >>>> >>>> andy butler >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 19:20:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2B633BED0; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47D589E8.1070303@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:20:08 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: marshall jmp-1 - OFF TOPIC References: <00b301c882cd$0f304f70$0300000a@erdem> <66f9cc1e0803100954r596d90bej83eda5bf59794532@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Heh. Replace "tube" with "hardware looper" or "Max patch" or "delay pedal" or "reverb" or "MIDI pedal" or "Firewire interface" and you'd dismiss just about all conversation on the list....gearheads are obsessive by nature, we each have our own poison. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I love the tube guys. Working that hard to find the exact right tubes. > I wish I had less to worry about and more free time, then I could find > that killer pre-war tungsten 12ax7. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 19:57:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FEC63BE97; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:57:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CL4435P+rR2rSkfvwCnplrkvokiXZYKLDpbRk+rv+pA4e+pQlGzWtZvBZglsvGLlPeM6ow5HAK3eUiXiuSerCJyfr+CX63p7m2ug9jiHCAeMvJXlHw1019BZCos2Lwl84I3Q7YzfQ4tBsUiV6SVx3HCRA7W5pKoefs7jSXdzdMc=; X-YMail-OSG: xhJKSeEVM1l8EdM1llSdewlOk6CRFC05eVF5XrGD5g24wGlJEyaWzIV.vNuViURl6i5sMwd6QN.1lV2loRS.0QDYtHMAmnMR1djaF7SWyQkTgL2Hbjlgh9ypszwK2Q-- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:57:27 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: shawn lane-Paris DVD, boise experimental dvds... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080310191254.1EB963BED2@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-109476037-1205179047=:21682" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <425622.21682.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:57:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-109476037-1205179047=:21682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit just an fyi-i bought the Hellborg/shawn lane-dvd-Paris, and watched it over the weekend, some interesting stuff on there. the 2nd set, shawn lane does some looping stuff at beginning of set, you can see him hitting some floor controller, and i'm not sure what looper he used, but you could definately hear what sounded like backwards playing that was behind his opening phrasing for the song. it was quite interesting in that it was seamless incorporated in the works, didn't seem out of place at all, and his playing is quite good. i had seen the dvd recommended in guitar players 50 dvd must haves a few issues ago. also -just bought the dvd 1 & 2 of krispen's boise experimental music fest-can't wait to watch those. thanks krispen for making those available-i realize it was probably a night mare to coordinate and all.... s---- --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --0-109476037-1205179047=:21682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit just an fyi-i bought the Hellborg/shawn lane-dvd-Paris, and watched it over the weekend, some interesting stuff on there.
the 2nd set, shawn lane does some looping stuff at beginning of set, you can see him hitting some floor controller,
and i'm not sure what looper he used, but you could definately hear what sounded like backwards playing that was behind his opening phrasing for the song.
it was quite interesting in that it was seamless incorporated in the works, didn't seem out of place at all, and his playing is quite good.
i had seen the dvd recommended in guitar players 50 dvd must haves a few issues ago.

also -just bought the dvd 1 & 2 of krispen's boise experimental music fest-can't wait to watch those. thanks krispen for making those available-i realize it was probably a night mare to coordinate and all....
s----

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Try it now. --0-109476037-1205179047=:21682-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 20:01:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 788383BEAF; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=KU50L1imzZH24FWjNzplmQpCzzAmNLXpkNBqxYHbNl/6h+GKlcdhk1uMuzMLHAolUhsg74fr+KVg9poAJp3wbkriawYfT1aglh2c6yMoZyCezQ3wsFMvSbDDd2Ja8LCCJtfIm6qyVgSnECKoVYLjKZ2aYp9yIqBSFX8YwctlS1Y=; X-YMail-OSG: SVIk9fIVM1mFF2cGPFGjJNvppMSiokwkfFxlUFluIEfIhs.R1c8wojIqM7Xr4SdkSqomU3hBukNGA.9kpubzOtxPALC6i4qxpIyxJCHFvDy1VfT8FOKHZKq9cn9a.ZToUnKvDbpf1TGrf_A- Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: murkie Subject: Re: shawn lane-Paris DVD, boise experimental dvds... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <425622.21682.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <792818.41437.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:01:00 +0000 (UTC) That's a great disc. I think he used a DL4 for looping. m.c. --- scott hansen wrote: > just an fyi-i bought the Hellborg/shawn > lane-dvd-Paris, and watched it over the weekend, > some interesting stuff on there. > the 2nd set, shawn lane does some looping stuff at > beginning of set, you can see him hitting some floor > controller, > and i'm not sure what looper he used, but you could > definately hear what sounded like backwards playing > that was behind his opening phrasing for the song. > it was quite interesting in that it was seamless > incorporated in the works, didn't seem out of place > at all, and his playing is quite good. > i had seen the dvd recommended in guitar players 50 > dvd must haves a few issues ago. > > also -just bought the dvd 1 & 2 of krispen's boise > experimental music fest-can't wait to watch those. > thanks krispen for making those available-i realize > it was probably a night mare to coordinate and > all.... > s---- > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 20:19:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 651AA3BE99; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20822.167.83.10.20.1205180387.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:19:56 +0000 (UTC) I assume it because everytime a new looper comes out 90% of this list seems to be scratching their heads wondering why x or y was implemented and z left out. I would expect them NOT to make themselves know to some extent-that way they don't influence the discussions. Maybe it's high on their list, but given the types of products that have come out in the past few years, I don't believe it. P > How do you know the list is low on the radar of looping companies? Just > because they don't make themselves known on a regular basis, doesn't mean > that they're not here. > > TH > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers is so >> LOW >> on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product development >> for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I was in >> the business of making loopers. >> >> c'est la vie.... >> >> ~peace~ >> Plish >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 20:59:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CE633BE86; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <56B78C10-EAC1-415E-A34A-C6738E0D072C@bartholomusic.com> From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20822.167.83.10.20.1205180387.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-60--757677635 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list (was: What's the best vocal looper to buy) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:59:48 -0500 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <20822.167.83.10.20.1205180387.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:59:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-60--757677635 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit yes mike accepts phone calls and is very personable. but that and actively responding to suggestions are 2 different things. the Looperlative was BUILT for response action. the others are not so maybe it wasnt right of me to compare. there is nothing the others can do unless ur fine with buying an new updated eprom and re-soldering. if u have 2 EDP's then u have no excuse for not getting a Looperlative. --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Monday10,Mar 2008, at 3:19 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > I assume it because everytime a new looper comes out 90% of this list > seems to be scratching their heads wondering why x or y was > implemented > and z left out. I would expect them NOT to make themselves know to > some > extent-that way they don't influence the discussions. > > Maybe it's high on their list, but given the types of products that > have > come out in the past few years, I don't believe it. > > P > >> How do you know the list is low on the radar of looping companies? >> Just >> because they don't make themselves known on a regular basis, >> doesn't mean >> that they're not here. >> >> TH >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:24 AM, wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> I wonder how such an amazingly high profile gathering of loopers >>> is so >>> LOW >>> on the radar scopes of looping companies. I've done product >>> development >>> for 17 years and lists like this would be scanned every week if I >>> was in >>> the business of making loopers. >>> >>> c'est la vie.... >>> >>> ~peace~ >>> Plish >>> >>> >> > > --Apple-Mail-60--757677635 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yes mike accepts phone calls = and is very personable.
but that and actively responding to = suggestions are 2 different things.

the Looperlative was BUILT = for response action. the others are not so maybe it wasnt right of me to = compare.
there is nothing the others can do unless ur fine = with buying an new updated eprom and re-soldering.

if u have 2 EDP's then u = have no excuse for not getting a Looperlative.

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Monday10,Mar = 2008, at 3:19 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com = wrote:

I assume it because everytime a new looper comes out 90% = of this list
seems to be scratching their heads wondering why x or y = was implemented
and z left out.  I would expect them NOT to make = themselves know to some
extent-that way they don't influence the = discussions.

Maybe it's high on their list, but given the types = of products that have
come out in the past few years, I don't believe = it.

P

How do you know the list = is low on the radar of looping companies? =  Just
because they don't = make themselves known on a regular basis, doesn't = mean
that they're not = here.

TH

On Mon, Mar 10, = 2008 at 11:24 AM, <mike@michaelplishka.com> = wrote:



I wonder how such an amazingly = high profile gathering of loopers is = so
LOW
on the radar scopes of looping = companies.  I've done product = development
for 17 years and lists like this = would be scanned every week if I was = in
the business of making = loopers.

c'est la = vie....

~peace~
Plish






= --Apple-Mail-60--757677635-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 21:53:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC67B3BE88; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on localhost.localdomain X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Message-ID: <47D5B425.2010900@unguitar.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:20:21 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Livelooping Festival in Cologne May 31st References: <002601c88217$0387cfb0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <002601c88217$0387cfb0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:53:02 +0000 (UTC) Great Michael ! from time to time there is some energy exploding on the surface. I was feeling the rumble boiling deep in the underground ;-) bravo ! ...and brave ;-) luca Michael Peters wrote: >here's all information (in German): www.livelooping.de > >-Michael > > >__________ Informazione NOD32 2932 (20080309) __________ > >Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 >http://www.nod32.it > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 21:56:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 475C53BE88; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47D5AE6D.308@aol.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:55:57 +0100 From: chrisrover User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FRANKFURT MUSIK MESSE anyone ? References: <20080310172032.40A993BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080310172032.40A993BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 84.185.59.224 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:56:25 +0000 (UTC) Anyone else going to Frankfurt Musik Messe next Wednesday to Saturday ? If some of us would like to meet, exchange news and ideas or have a cup of coffee together I'll be there Thursday and Friday. Drop me a line here or cc: at chrisrover@aol.com. Regards Christian Rover www.christianrover.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 10 22:00:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEFDB3BE8F; Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080310180024.H5LA8.81878.root@fepweb07> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:00:24 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: shawn lane-Paris DVD, boise experimental dvds... Cc: scott hansen In-Reply-To: <425622.21682.qm@web33102.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Great disk that. Picked it up about a year ago. Noted the minor bit of background (and backwards) looping too. Nice emulation of East Indian melodic textures via same. I think Mr. Murkie is right . . . DL4. Lane was amazing (live or recorded). Such a shame he died back in '03 at the relatively young age of 40. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- scott hansen wrote:=20 > just an fyi-i bought the Hellborg/shawn lane-dvd-Paris, and watched it ov= er the weekend, some interesting stuff on there. > the 2nd set, shawn lane does some looping stuff at beginning of set, you = can see him hitting some floor controller, > and i'm not sure what looper he used, but you could definately hear what = sounded like backwards playing that was behind his opening phrasing for the= song. > it was quite interesting in that it was seamless incorporated in the work= s, didn't seem out of place at all, and his playing is quite good. > i had seen the dvd recommended in guitar players 50 dvd must haves a few = issues ago. >=20 > also -just bought the dvd 1 & 2 of krispen's boise experimental music fes= t-can't wait to watch those. thanks krispen for making those available-i re= alize it was probably a night mare to coordinate and all.... > s---- >=20 > =20 > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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All rights From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 03:57:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 212DE3BE81; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: SOUTHERN OREGON LOOPING GIG ANNOUNCEMENT Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:31:59 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Hey all, There is almost no chance that any of you will be able to (or likely =20 even want to) make it to this gig. But it makes me feel better to post the announcement anyway (since it's =20= my first gig of the new year and one of several already scheduled). Nathan Hubbard is traveling up the West Coast performing along the way =20= and when he wrote to request we do a gig together I jumped at the =20 chance. Here's our little press release: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=20= +++ FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Announcing: Pioneers at the Hall A Concert of "New Music" by Southern California Musician/Composer Nathan Hubbard and Southern Oregon Guitarist/Improvisor Ted Killian March 28th, 2008 =95 8:00 pm - 10:00 pm At Pioneer Hall, 73 Winburn Way, Ashland, OR 97520 Two Solo Sets and a Collaborative Duo Set Are Planned Admission $5.00 When was the last time you listened to anything particularly new, =20 surprising or different, musically speaking - probably a long time ago =20= in a very dry college music appreciation course, right? While there is =20= certainly nothing wrong with pursuing and enjoying divertive listening =20= experiences that are familiar, comforting and fashionable - there is =20 much to be said for occasionally broadening your aural horizons (and =20 palate) to include something a little less "normal." Imagine for a moment what music might sound like if it were =20 aesthetically organized and created from a radically different =20 perspective, a different set of motivations and considerations - =20 perhaps even from another dimension, another planet, another =20 intelligent species entirely. What would this music sound like? While =20= nothing so exotic is specifically planned or promised for their =20 program, that concept would be a handy one to keep in mind if you come =20= out to hear percussionist Nathan Hubbard and guitarist Ted Killian =20 when they perform on the last Friday of March at Pioneer Hall. Nathan Hubbard: Percussionist Nathan Hubbard's solo music is an amalgam of his work as =20= an improviser, composer and instrument builder. Using acoustic and =20 amplified instruments and a wide range of electronics, Hubbard creates =20= a soundworld of multiple layers, where the music changes definitions of =20= form, shape and outcome. This music has been presented in a wide =20 variety of contexts, from concert halls and festivals to freeway =20 underpasses and desolate mountain roads, and has been documented on the =20= recordings Born On Tuesday (2004, Circumvention Music) and Blind Orchid =20= (2007, Accretions Records).=A0 Beyond his solo work, Hubbard collaborates with guitarist Noah =20 Phillips, fellow percussionist Curtis Glatter, the ARC Trio and the =20 quartet Cosmologic, as well as leading his own Nathan Hubbard Trio, =20 Nathan Hubbard/Everything After chamber quintet, Nathan Hubbard Octet, =20= and the large ensemble Nathan Hubbard Skeleton Key Orchestra. Hubbard =20= is also a member of the Trummerflora Collective. Ted Killian: For over four decades Ted Killian has explored his own personal vision =20= and approach to guitar playing and music-making. There is almost no =20 telling what will happen when he shows up to play. Not only are his =20 electric guitar performances freely improvisational in nature (though =20= he is sometimes known to quote recognizable snippets as disparate as =20 Jean Sibelius, Herb Alpert, Jimi Hendrix, Isaac Watts, Phillip Glass or =20= Krysztov Penderecki) he has also been known to employ such non-standard =20= performance techniques as sawing on his guitar with a hack-saw, playing =20= it with compressed air, kitchen utensils, springs, violin bows (or =20 E-bow) in addition to his ever-present banjo picks and brass slide. He =20= also employs an enormous amount of digital sound-processing and has =20 been a pioneer of live "looping" technology for over 25 years. Primarily a solo act, he has nonetheless added his unique musical =20 "stamp" to various ensemble works alongside a multitude of West Coast =20= "new music" luminaries - foremost, (over the years), as a frequent =20 musical foil for SoCal avant-jazz trumpeter Jeff Kaiser. Ted's own =20 music playfully spans the distance from tender plaintive whisper to the =20= passionate, volcanic, outpouring. His solo CD Flux Aeterna (2001, =20 pfMENTUM) achieved a surprising amount of worldwide radio airplay and =20= international critical acclaim for a recording by a musician that is =20 resolutely out of the mainstream and flying below the radar. A live =20 concert duet CD, Mojo at the Dojo (2008, BEMF/Kunaki) with fellow =20 polyglot guitarist Krispen Hartung, was just released earlier this =20 year. Ted has been performing actively throughout the Western States =20 for the past 20 years and makes his home in Medford, Oregon. For further Information call 541-890-6225 or e-mail: =20 tedkillian@charter.net ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=20= +++ tEd =AE KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian Flux Aeterna: =20 http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 playListId=3D6378076 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: =20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 04:23:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 596FC3BE8B; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:23:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 302 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:23:47 UTC Reply-To: From: "Aaron Leese" To: Subject: Free Download Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:18:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <792818.41437.qm@web54006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciC6YMvS78pGhnQQ9eUllVNoUPfmgAQvYUg Message-Id: <20080311042347.AC8F73BE80@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:23:48 +0000 (UTC) If anyone is interested in trying out another looper, the downloadable is up at www.flyloops.com now. I don't really enjoy self promotion and certainly don't need to clog up LD space with it ..... there are screenshots/explanations/demo videos on the website (www.flyloops.com) and youtube. Contact me with questions. Before you ask ... 1) So far as I know, the only thing this looper can do that no other looper can is loop scratching (turntablism), which I suspect only a few of you are interested in. 2) Yes, you can set it up to trigger with an external midi clock by setting the external clock pulse to the interval you want to trigger to, and then mapping that midi command (midi learn) to "play all". I have had a lot of requests for this and will likely write an explicit button for it sometime in the near future. 3) FlyLoops does handle loops a little differently than other programs, but probably closest to a well programmed Ableton/MAX Plugin setup. Please feel free to email me with questions at aaronleese@flyloops.com as I just jumped on LD again, and I will probably not stick on this list more than a week as the sheer volume of emails overwelms me. -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 07:30:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3963BE87; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 695209150/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.235.13 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.235.13 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsBANfR1UdPSusN/2dsb2JhbAAIkkeYVoIZ Message-ID: <47D6352A.9060305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:30:50 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <20822.167.83.10.20.1205180387.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <56B78C10-EAC1-415E-A34A-C6738E0D072C@bartholomusic.com> In-Reply-To: <56B78C10-EAC1-415E-A34A-C6738E0D072C@bartholomusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Adrian Bartholomew wrote: > yes mike accepts phone calls and is very personable. > but that and actively responding to suggestions are 2 different things. > > the Looperlative was BUILT for response action. the others are not so > maybe it wasnt right of me to compare. > there is nothing the others can do unless ur fine with buying an new > updated eprom and re-soldering. For the EDP no soldering required to upgrade to Loop4. ... but it's old technology, Loop4 filled up the available memory for features, and no way to instant update > > if u have 2 EDP's then u have no excuse for not getting a Looperlative. > (oh, that's me then) :-) main excuse is $1000, otherwise I'd be very happy to run a Looperlative alongside the edps. It's a fantastic machine. There's a whole load of EDP functions that aren't in the Looperlative. Also, my approach to looping would push the Looperlative to the limit and run up against bugs. Part of the Looperlative deal is that the purchasers are the testers, it's an investment in time as well as money. andy butler From postbode@hallmark.be Tue Mar 11 09:11:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 10774 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:11:45 UTC Received: from ocala.pickint.net (ocala.pickint.net [66.252.227.70]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D63BF3BE7C; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User (85-20-0-9-static.albacom.net [85.20.0.9] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by ocala.pickint.net (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id m2B6A6ed018358; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:10:07 -0400 Message-Id: <200803110610.m2B6A6ed018358@ocala.pickint.net> Reply-To: From: "Hallmark Cards" Subject: You have a card send from a friend! Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07.11.34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:;

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 13:17:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4161B3BE82; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3CFD5115-2F5D-4B34-895C-B95970455430@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:15:55 -0300 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:17:53 +0000 (UTC) Adrian, I liked when you said: > u know, un researched comments like that is what causes the > destruction of the group conscious IQ. > i am sorry. u r right. but then: > thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him here. > now i have not been here all the time so.... so? there is a searchable mail archive with a lot of valid information at http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive > --Adrian Bartholomew > Quincy, IL > "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." even more if you do! ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 13:38:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C86B3BE82; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5941 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:38:52 UTC Message-ID: <008d01c8837d$3e18c320$3e01470a@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Subject: Re: Free Download Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:38:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1250"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <41ia7D.A.gOE.sto1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Nice. Can you explain the scratch function? If I understand how this works from my childhood experience with records, don't you just slow the buffer down to a stop and then move both forward and backward quickly? Or is there some other effect that your looper throws in there? If the former, then you just motivated me to add this to my max/msp looper to control with my foot expression pedal. I already have buffer control in my looper, so I just need to add the code to control it in this way (5 min job). What sort of range would I use in terms of time forward and backward? 3 seconds? I'm trying to visualize how much audio time would be included with one sweep of my fingers on the vinyl. :) If you ever get the interest, one particular thing I like to do on my looper (KaiserLooper) is to randomly select windows of the buffer and play them back. I use this, and make the random selection very slow. It is fun to play with as a virtual accompanist. Or I can speed it up and it sounds very "glitchy". Kris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Krispen Hartung Boise Experimental Music Festival http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-3/ info@krispenhartung.com http://www.krispenhartung.com/ ----- Original Message ----- >> >> If anyone is interested in trying out another looper, the downloadable is >> up >> at www.flyloops.com now. >> >> I don't really enjoy self promotion and certainly don't need to clog up >> LD >> space with it ..... there are screenshots/explanations/demo videos on the >> website (www.flyloops.com) and youtube. Contact me with questions. >> >> Before you ask ... >> 1) So far as I know, the only thing this looper can do that no other >> looper >> can is loop scratching (turntablism), which I suspect only a few of you >> are >> interested in. >> >> 2) Yes, you can set it up to trigger with an external midi clock by >> setting >> the external clock pulse to the interval you want to trigger to, and then >> mapping that midi command (midi learn) to "play all". I have had a lot >> of >> requests for this and will likely write an explicit button for it >> sometime >> in the near future. >> >> 3) FlyLoops does handle loops a little differently than other programs, >> but >> probably closest to a well programmed Ableton/MAX Plugin setup. >> >> Please feel free to email me with questions at aaronleese@flyloops.com as >> I >> just jumped on LD again, and I will probably not stick on this list more >> than a week as the sheer volume of emails overwelms me. >> >> >> >> -- >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: >> 11/22/2007 >> 6:55 PM >> >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 13:51:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F5CB3BE79; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:51:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <026c01c8837e$eba7a690$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <20822.167.83.10.20.1205180387.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <56B78C10-EAC1-415E-A34A-C6738E0D072C@bartholomusic.com> <47D6352A.9060305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:50:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <1gnp9.A.A6E.L5o1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:51:07 +0000 (UTC) > There's a whole load of EDP functions that aren't in the Looperlative. The Looperlative LP1 was never meant as a replacement for the EDP. Because they are both looping devices there are some common functions. However, beyond the basic looping features, they have different feature sets. Which device suits you best can only be decided by you. > Also, my approach to looping would push the Looperlative to the limit and > run up against bugs. > Part of the Looperlative deal is that the purchasers are the testers, it's > an investment in time as well as money. If you want to use the absolute latest features added to the device, then yes, you are part of the testing team. However, if you stick to only the stable releases of the firmware, then you would be fine. The LP1 is now over 2 years old and used on a daily basis by several people. I've said all along that there it is good for the looping community if multiple manufacturers offer devices to choose from. No one device can be the perfect solution for every person. It is important for different devices to exist to give people the flexibility of choosing what works best for them. -Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 15:08:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A3C13BE87; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:08:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 675513450/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.235.13 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.235.13 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgUCAHo91kdPSusN/2dsb2JhbAAIkjGZH4Ie Message-ID: <47D69FAC.3090206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:05:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <20822.167.83.10.20.1205180387.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <56B78C10-EAC1-415E-A34A-C6738E0D072C@bartholomusic.com> <47D6352A.9060305@tiscali.co.uk> <026c01c8837e$eba7a690$5901a8c0@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <026c01c8837e$eba7a690$5901a8c0@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7s-wpC.A.NeB.2Bq1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:08:38 +0000 (UTC) hi Bob, Sorry, I looked back at my post, and it did sound rather critical of the Looperlative. I apologise for that, it wasn't my intention to knock the Looperlative, rather to justify why I stick with a pair of EDPs. I'm not at all against the "buyer as tester" approach, I think it makes a lot of sense to do it that way, and I no way want to hint that Looperlative is full of bugs, which afaik is not the case at all. Also I should explain that I find bugs in almost every device I touch. Based on my experiences with Loop devices so far, I'd expect to come across bugs in any sufficiently complex Looper, whether or not anyone else found them. There's just something about the way I approach things. e.g. at Y2K5 I managed to get my 2 EDPs running through randomised memory. Already found away to lock up the EH Stereo Memory man so it needs reboot. .....and so on..... Perhaps I should re-quote the original point that I was replying to for clarity:- >Adrian Bartholomew wrote: >> >> if u have 2 EDP's then u have no excuse for not getting a Looperlative. ...which is a statement that I don't think you would agree with either :-) andy butler Bob Amstadt wrote: >> There's a whole load of EDP functions that aren't in the Looperlative. > > The Looperlative LP1 was never meant as a replacement for the EDP. > Because they are both looping devices there are some common functions. > However, beyond the basic looping features, they have different feature > sets. Which device suits you best can only be decided by you. > >> Also, my approach to looping would push the Looperlative to the limit >> and run up against bugs. >> Part of the Looperlative deal is that the purchasers are the testers, >> it's an investment in time as well as money. > > If you want to use the absolute latest features added to the device, > then yes, you are part of the testing team. However, if you stick to > only the stable releases of the firmware, then you would be fine. The > LP1 is now over 2 years old and used on a daily basis by several people. > > > I've said all along that there it is good for the looping community if > multiple manufacturers offer devices to choose from. No one device can > be the perfect solution for every person. It is important for different > devices to exist to give people the flexibility of choosing what works > best for them. > > -Bob Amstadt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 15:19:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D1C93BE88; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <028101c8838b$54f6c390$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <36369.167.83.10.20.1205173497.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <20822.167.83.10.20.1205180387.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <56B78C10-EAC1-415E-A34A-C6738E0D072C@bartholomusic.com> <47D6352A.9060305@tiscali.co.uk> <026c01c8837e$eba7a690$5901a8c0@bobdell> <47D69FAC.3090206@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:19:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, Andy, for clarifying your statements. I appreciate all that you contribute to this list. -Bob From customer_service@CapitalOne.com Tue Mar 11 15:29:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from mail.1stfinanciallending.com (mail.1stfinanciallending.com [72.54.120.138]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3808A3BE81 for ; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([66.242.236.15]) by mail.1stfinanciallending.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:37:07 -0800 Reply-To: From: "CapitalOne" Subject: You have one new message at Capital One. 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Blank Check® is a registered trademark of Capital One Services, Inc. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 15:52:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 504CC3BE86; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=euZlSZEW6TlypYECWOjn2vEBLeYfSc1rrwhoiaBmC9Boh3iv8X2T3mYl9F+x/lG09kDVSdU3px24a8rVTKAdytdLVr+3S6OfbJheIC8n3tHsP4xjjse10z8o9VpZLUo+Rf4icMvt3j8yOS9IbJSgjAwjG2xGbVFZB2JBlMidLi0=; X-YMail-OSG: _Dlp8nIVM1nTRQ8KQyQGYwd2sjRkrjXxbavMRjnn6r_HRCbyrG0IIAWyK4KBiDUElZQvNKZVqbDdnK0XLPduqTZCoZL8bQWdQPl3o7V6rdLj_c.dFb2hDWaeQ_hmDg-- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:52:58 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: OT: yamaha R100 rever unit To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2138996847-1205250778=:9385" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <71157.9385.qm@web34306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:52:59 +0000 (UTC) --0-2138996847-1205250778=:9385 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've got a line on this unit - it's from 1988 and has 60 different presets of reverb, delay, or some combination of the two; it's south of $50 and I would be using it mostly in live situations. Harmony Central reviews are favourable (keeping in mind it's 20-year old technology) but any opinions/experiences from here are welcomed. DW. "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --0-2138996847-1205250778=:9385 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I've got a line on this unit - it's from 1988 and has 60 different presets of reverb, delay, or some combination of the two; it's south of $50 and I would be using it mostly in live situations.
 
Harmony Central reviews are favourable (keeping in mind it's 20-year old technology) but any opinions/experiences from here are welcomed.
 
 
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Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --0-2138996847-1205250778=:9385-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 16:40:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 472903BE87; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:40:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3CFD5115-2F5D-4B34-895C-B95970455430@atarde.com.br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:40:09 -0500 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <3CFD5115-2F5D-4B34-895C-B95970455430@atarde.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:40:18 +0000 (UTC) > > >> --Adrian Bartholomew >> Quincy, IL >> "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." > > even more if you do! ;-) have u tried ;-) ;-0) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 16:46:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF6633BE90; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <3F3C535E-6FF1-4E1D-A7C5-CE0005D95416@bartholomusic.com> From: Adrian Bartholomew To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3CFD5115-2F5D-4B34-895C-B95970455430@atarde.com.br> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-66--686502782 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: the Looper makers on this list Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:46:03 -0500 References: <439B04CB-291B-4DF3-A210-B9BF0CE7DBC3@carlsonarts.com> <20E7F46B-C4DC-4A28-86B2-7537508D43E6@bartholomusic.com> <47D4542F.6020408@tiscali.co.uk> <524D296E-EA4A-4F66-B952-042CC447A8B1@bartholomusic.com> <3CFD5115-2F5D-4B34-895C-B95970455430@atarde.com.br> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Spam-Score: 0.101 (HTML_MESSAGE) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:46:11 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-66--686502782 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit its called laziness. so i opted for the escape clause on a quest of negligible importance. --Adrian Bartholomew Quincy, IL "Life rocks, when you don't give a damn about it." On Tuesday11,Mar 2008, at 8:15 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > but then: >> thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him here. >> now i have not been here all the time so.... > > so? > there is a searchable mail archive with a lot of valid information at > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive --Apple-Mail-66--686502782 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable its called laziness. so i opted = for the escape clause on a quest of negligible importance.
=

--Adrian Bartholomew
Quincy, = IL
"Life = rocks, when you don't give a damn about = it."

On Tuesday11,Mar = 2008, at 8:15 AM, Matthias Grob wrote:

but then:
thats right. mike's his name. i never saw him = here.
now i have not been here = all the time so....

so?
there is a searchable = mail archive with a lot of valid information at
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= --Apple-Mail-66--686502782-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 20:37:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0431D3BE78; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Aaron Leese" To: Subject: RE: Free Download Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:37:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <008d01c8837d$3e18c320$3e01470a@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciDfU5tJDcVPKdCTCyCHuBnOkMFXQAOUo8g Message-Id: <20080311203731.94BE73BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6CuzfC.A.DyC.L2u1HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Not exactly ... remember that usually when you scratch a record it is usually moving... you don=92t turn the turntable off ... so when you let = go, you want it to speed back up to normal speed. You need to consider = momentum too ... if you "throw" the record ... pull backward, say, very fast, = then let go .... the record will be moving backward, but quickly stop then = end up moving forward again. Still pretty simple math ... all you need is the coeff or friction and = the range over which you can scratch (turntable surface corresponds to 1/4 = of a record rotation, or something like that ... as you like). Email me if = that doesn=92t make sense or you want actual formulas, but you seemed like a = pretty sharp guy when I met you, so I'm sure you'll figure it out. I'll be interested to hear about it when you get it working in max/msp. -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 6:39 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Free Download Nice. Can you explain the scratch function? If I understand how this = works from my childhood experience with records, don't you just slow the = buffer down to a stop and then move both forward and backward quickly? Or is = there some other effect that your looper throws in there? If the former, then = you just motivated me to add this to my max/msp looper to control with my = foot expression pedal. I already have buffer control in my looper, so I just = need to add the code to control it in this way (5 min job). What sort of range would I use in terms of time forward and backward? 3 seconds? I'm trying to visualize how much audio time would be included = with one sweep of my fingers on the vinyl. :) If you ever get the interest, one particular thing I like to do on my = looper (KaiserLooper) is to randomly select windows of the buffer and play them back. I use this, and make the random selection very slow. It is fun to = play with as a virtual accompanist. Or I can speed it up and it sounds very "glitchy". Kris ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Krispen Hartung Boise Experimental Music Festival http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-3/ info@krispenhartung.com http://www.krispenhartung.com/ ----- Original Message -----=20 >> >> If anyone is interested in trying out another looper, the = downloadable is >> up >> at www.flyloops.com now. >> >> I don't really enjoy self promotion and certainly don't need to clog = up=20 >> LD >> space with it ..... there are screenshots/explanations/demo videos on = the >> website (www.flyloops.com) and youtube. Contact me with questions. >> >> Before you ask ... >> 1) So far as I know, the only thing this looper can do that no other=20 >> looper >> can is loop scratching (turntablism), which I suspect only a few of = you=20 >> are >> interested in. >> >> 2) Yes, you can set it up to trigger with an external midi clock by=20 >> setting >> the external clock pulse to the interval you want to trigger to, and = then >> mapping that midi command (midi learn) to "play all". I have had a = lot=20 >> of >> requests for this and will likely write an explicit button for it=20 >> sometime >> in the near future. >> >> 3) FlyLoops does handle loops a little differently than other = programs,=20 >> but >> probably closest to a well programmed Ableton/MAX Plugin setup. >> >> Please feel free to email me with questions at = aaronleese@flyloops.com as >> I >> just jumped on LD again, and I will probably not stick on this list = more >> than a week as the sheer volume of emails overwelms me. >> >> >> >> --=20 >> Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date:=20 >> 11/22/2007 >> 6:55 PM >> >> >> >=20 --=20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: = 11/22/2007 6:55 PM =20 --=20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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hi,
 
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= www.myspace.com/erdemhel= vacioglu
*=20 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered Realities" album is = out on New=20 Albion Records:
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------=_NextPart_000_02E6_01C883CB.0B334BD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 11 23:31:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 247B23BE81; Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Cn8ENNREAWOVLcpVeI78X5d1Jntvl0XJYKyartisbbBSIUyp/FuviTiogmG+yWgVgsXeN4RoExlueIL5wC3RtdM59afxW8oSykIqK+V2g6quZdqUPhn5Z9wCzAMHKUMREfjcDTHHoDCacavMG5l6ZUG14WnSCSRjPawZrKMxBkE=; X-YMail-OSG: NZLnksgVM1kfroMe44DkDrV5Squ4Upxnrcu0xtBrlb0UPdKnTVwa0lh4XaWUE3OubI_srruHdW666KB69WV_vDnxQO6TMuB30IuSt4CC6eUllWAKszE- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:31:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Livelooping Festival in Cologne May 31st To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002601c88217$0387cfb0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <738981.68209.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:31:03 +0000 (UTC) Brilliant Michael thanx! cheers Luis --- Michael Peters wrote: > here's all information (in German): > www.livelooping.de > > -Michael > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 03:26:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A0B23BE7F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=/iFsmuFYwHH1H2fySmb25QbFWv5QRbQ4P3oDEjwxvqk=; b=PWO89u7hcZXA6N7LEMnJt5PYHBcOwN+QKClbIbP530y/l9LHJzNllqCk69qJnY1QTBV09PcpRaLUsoy4Q7tB1YJL5tviXf1Cx06CXnlobSHm3iMhc5PzsiL8hOhUKhTz/J0ybbz6S5mTfMYK45y68eGnv5tuE+j3Eb9JC9OxItw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=Czs7t/a1pdGDGiZfNpOx/x1t/hECSUCqclea3ve9awxpQq68lDDmzQ1NmQznVrj3jVI5jV18kPKbCdSh2P88Hef49wFehXN/4MNTEJJwfcIc7i5Gy6K4g5bl2b6/mLOzm+NzzrqphPf9uoygY5xwM33sWLDW9lPGg1xDg4hDiVU= From: "Tony K" To: Subject: Firewire interface Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:26:21 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c883f0$db111a60$91334f20$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AciD8GYhAuHqYvCxR3yCjMprP4PYAQ== Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I'm looking at getting an 8 (analog) input Firewire interface for my PC setup. I'm looking at... M-Audio 1814 Alesis io 26 Echo AuidoFire8 Edirol FA101 Presonus Firestudio Thoughts? Keeping it under $500. Tony No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 3/11/2008 1:41 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 05:41:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A9243BE7F; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=VvcIlx6Xhpu6ttvZpm4PEdTGZ5GRnE+HfgWbHNonMhm24bDKU+Nh5qFPLFzN0D0PuF1x/5hfqgQYQ/fYYn3duHWH1WqaxgclNeEaApztD3Q/Zdz+Le+llLmsMVXT8EMydXgGq8V+iP/8wv/lku8wQLRWhImhqpJOOryOUX50NN8=; X-YMail-OSG: wXUMX4IVM1n6D_O8aHKZmsWDTpiDSxZOvzyPjIeHHMfzjBghKNiCoE8PuUQUUMvqpFmhwnBc5mNdaOhFMNpz31nxIaxRs.R3nkS1sMkQbZSvqME4kXw- Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:41:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Easiest drum machine software To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <237353.82906.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:41:08 +0000 (UTC) I love drummerhead http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/ i recorded a track of mine called "rey del cielo" with it http://www.myspace.com/luisangulocom doesnt get any easier than that! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 07:42:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78BD93BE77; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:42:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Aaron Leese" To: Subject: RE: Firewire interface Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:42:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AciD8GYhAuHqYvCxR3yCjMprP4PYAQAI4Z8g In-Reply-To: <000001c883f0$db111a60$91334f20$@com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Message-Id: <20080312074223.DF38F3BE72@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:42:24 +0000 (UTC) FA101 is what I use ... below $500 (goes for $400 retail still I think.. probably $350 on ebay) 8 in, 8 out (10 if you use the optical) Can't think of a thing I don=92t like about it .... great sound quality, = no hiccups unless running several high end programs at once. Runs up to 24 bit, 192 kHz. Pretty amazing to me that technology has gotten so good for under ~500 really. -----Original Message----- From: Tony K [mailto:bigtonyk@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 8:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Firewire interface Hi all, I'm looking at getting an 8 (analog) input Firewire interface for my PC setup. I'm looking at... M-Audio 1814 Alesis io 26 Echo AuidoFire8 Edirol FA101 Presonus Firestudio Thoughts? Keeping it under $500. Tony =20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: = 3/11/2008 1:41 PM =20 --=20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: = 11/22/2007 6:55 PM =20 --=20 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1146 - Release Date: = 11/22/2007 6:55 PM =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 08:23:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B93FF3BE84; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=mNLi731E2J+6V9br1fFVraLULcY4397C2VGQJ4PHiRQ=; b=A5p5UCugufPhGcFbR7UsRJljODcFzFUExQDlI+pQsIewTeO/8voeWSeXLdZC20+Aeq7Ur2F+0J4hpEijWiPHL9p4WFvJ9dt+DFbdf6ChR5gQzIRbMiYGxagcrJ/yldJBpUkQjHz12dZTR4APY56WSOhQIDz1+FFbhjQDMyFdRlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=yD2M0X7RZNfcDlWAzf5E2zusTz3OCTLGu1tXAPmeG2oHFX77YVS+gfiDrZyYQZ+8dLa3PLGTwBl0z2X/fgnDiaArvz2dk6xtoXhiTUFjla+L5XiMjQQOYNbfiRgymYuCL/tnErDdtKlpdiT11KUyO8Au8TsRObawk5q4W3vN5No= Message-ID: <26ba8d120803120123o5eff168bv680e534031d7b5d3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:23:05 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: timefactor? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3016_3258910.1205310185575" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4f133acb704694b3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:23:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3016_3258910.1205310185575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker wrote: > The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried. > So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply cuts out bits of program material! (It's better in "looper" mode but I didn't get it as a looper...) Did I miss something? ------=_Part_3016_3258910.1205310185575 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried.

So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply cuts out bits of program material!  (It's better in "looper" mode but I didn't get it as a looper...)

Did I miss something?
------=_Part_3016_3258910.1205310185575-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 09:25:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB3293BE77; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:25:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <7Kgjy.A.w0G.sF61HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:25:00 +0000 (UTC) I've been actively using dedicated digital looping devices since 1995. I own and use five different live looping hardware technologies: the Line 6 DL-4 the Electrix Repeater the Gibson EDP with loop IV software by Aurisis the Looperlative and now, a KAOSS3 pad by Korg (which allows for midi synchronized looping and resampling of loops). I also have hosted over 200 incredible live looping artists from 12 countries at the annual Y2K series Live Looping Festivals and seen or heard part or all of their sets so I know a thing or two about what's out in the world So, it is true that if I had to go to a desert Island with only one live looping device that I'd take my Looperlative with me. However: I've seen Andy Butler and Andre Lafosse do mind boggling work with their EDPs (that have a less than impressive Apple IIC processor in them and are mono). Genie blow my mind with a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller (activated at times with his bare toes!!!!); Bill Walker impress everyone with his work on an Electrix Repeater (and now, an LP-1) I've seen Kid Beyond do amazing things with a laptop running Ableton's Live; Jeff Kaiser and Krispen Hartung do ridiculously hip things with Max/MSP: Matthias Grob and Per Boysen tear it up using Plogue Bidule and Mobius Michael Klobuchar bend heads with a Boomerang I don't even know what Stan Card or Ted Killian use...................they just fucking tear it up , live!!! ****************** So, constant obsession and endless bickering on this list over the years about 'what's the best live looping device' always leaves me bewildered. It's no more a helpful discussion than asking, "who's the best live looper". These things are instruments and , in that sense. The real question is: How do we use our respective live looping devices creatively and, even more importantly, what's the music like that we create. respectfully, Rick Walker aka looppool From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 09:58:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF5743BE78; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XsTBdbRhN31j4As72hwT3Ab7DdAiUzeKAPewFIC/EKs=; b=CxbtCHev7nPxvrJLIW8cHzIgwQqbHP24rI08R5wnEL7kkioiAIe27DRLVuIcLfYeIeYg11XEjr5LQdahHozr40OpMKKsOTwo5uD4uHphNqUEOW2OIRRt1o8f8JOFLhFUGbkwZt6gvdbbN2O85w9zG2teo8/mjgl4hu5WbA2kam8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YzZxQs0fD5OHUl/VIShPUqqueuHGeJtTmJ1LfJ5hNeerK1mJi2YSSp1cdkmJl8RqUk+wXYO2SZMVUWogFKpb71mpVueBYB53gufrQ6jfpVLL/YzBbZ80prODUkHf+r+3fDFgTUKJ+VnYpm+nKV55xCAfv+fzW6TPPl3Joq5bnak= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:58:32 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE In-Reply-To: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <98EWQC.A.L1H.Kl61HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Hurrah, hurray, hallelujah, and well-said! We don't need the fan-boys; we need people talking about HOW you use the gear. Thanks for keeping it all in perspective, Rick. ~~ Dennis, who is sorting his way with a Repeater and all his Vortexes On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:25 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > So, constant obsession and endless bickering on this list over the years > about 'what's the best live looping device' always leaves > me bewildered. > > It's no more a helpful discussion than asking, "who's the best live > looper". > > These things are instruments and , in that sense. > > The real question is: > > How do we use our respective live looping devices creatively > and, even more importantly, > > what's the music like that we create. > > respectfully, Rick Walker aka looppool > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 10:06:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 781613BE84; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:06:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 371 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:06:33 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 354465.56921.bm@omp210.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=a7NkXtRul50Pcu81AVnISyV9KrwMoPhLBtG5NNy4NP0tjX3nEXbyUUuOEAvwOJAL76wKoACw43NmwS52OLTC7qPN02bImOLfxwaLV/T4ZsqdRQQ4CH3qrTToZGc2J9e/jnkeXh0kGBKqVjcerRVpirgOqFsVc7GTu/fpCCzGqI4= ; X-YMail-OSG: 75X0EmEVM1mnpmN2e7cap.LA9bQ1joQikYpoP_bkAlvx2ypqw5_Vz7gMkIAIU577Gck5c9Q.Hw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007b01c88427$e00b7f60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> From: "Ben" To: Subject: boss announce a new delay pedal Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:00:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <4OvrpB.A.VN.ps61HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:06:33 +0000 (UTC) This is what I found today: BOSS ANNOUNCES THE DD-7 12/03/2008 Boss announces the newest pedal in the best-selling DD-range. Building on the tried-and-tested features from its predecessors, the DD-7 considerably expands the creative potential with a number of practical and inspiring features. With up to 6.4 seconds of delay time, the DD-7 features a marked increase on its predecessor. In addition, a newly-developed Hold mode allows up to 40 seconds of input to be recorded for creating atmospheric "sound-on-sound" performances. The DD-7 is also equipped with two innovative new delay modes. Modulation Delay provides chorus-flavoured sounds, while Analogue Delay offers a modelled simulation of the classic Boss DM-2, beloved by guitarists everywhere for its characteristic warmth. For hands-free control, an external footswitch and expression pedal (sold separately) can be used. Tap tempo rates can be controlled from the external footswitch, while delay time, feedback, and effect level can be changed on the fly via an expression pedal. The DD-7's stereo output can create some amazing effects, such as spatial audio sweeps with true stereo panning. The stereo outputs can even be configured as separate dry and wet signal paths - handy for recording and live-performance control. Finally, the legendary Boss build quality and reliability that has seen sales exceed 10 million pedals globally comes as standard. DD-7 at a glance . Expanded delay time, up to 6.4 seconds . Modulation Delay mode offers natural, chorus-type sounds . Analogue Delay mode models the classic warm Boss DM-2 analogue delay sound . Tap tempo controllable via external footswitch . Delay time, feedback, and effect level can be controlled via external expression pedal (sold separately) . Up to 40 seconds of recording for sound-on-sound (Hold mode) performances This Hold mode can be interesting combined with the FB settings and it's stereo. I'll keep an eye on this. Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 10:13:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6371F3BE92; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:13:53 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:07:13 +0100 From: "nico spahni" In-Reply-To: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Message-ID: <20080312100713.15770@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/cis5qJMTc+u5XDoUtHWPDfyihOxqqrBJWjxcwLs BivaV9z7ZS1wfmokogFC5cvNEmZn7kbmUvIw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: Ht62I0Bna0A7UmPSZzEzctw/Njh6dA6/ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Right. So if I set up the mentioned devices in a chain, I'm bound to end up with the most overwhelmingly beautiful music ever created... or did I get it wrong again? ;-) Cheers Nico -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:25:07 -0700 > Von: "Rick Walker" > An: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \\(posting\\)" > Betreff: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE > I've been actively using dedicated digital looping devices since 1995. > > I own and use five different live looping hardware technologies: > > the Line 6 DL-4 > > the Electrix Repeater > > the Gibson EDP with loop IV software by Aurisis > > the Looperlative > > and now, a KAOSS3 pad by Korg (which allows for midi synchronized looping > and resampling of loops). > > > > I also have hosted over 200 incredible live looping artists from 12 > countries at the annual Y2K series Live Looping Festivals and > seen or heard part or all of their sets > so I know a thing or two about what's out in the world > > So, it is true that if I had to go to a desert Island with only one live > looping device that I'd take my Looperlative with me. > > > However: > > I've seen Andy Butler and Andre Lafosse do mind boggling work with their > EDPs (that have a less > than impressive Apple IIC processor in them and are mono). > > Genie blow my mind with a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller (activated at times > with his bare toes!!!!); > > Bill Walker impress everyone with his work on an Electrix Repeater (and > now, > an LP-1) > > I've seen Kid Beyond do amazing things with a laptop running Ableton's > Live; > > Jeff Kaiser and Krispen Hartung do ridiculously hip things with Max/MSP: > > Matthias Grob and Per Boysen tear it up using Plogue Bidule and Mobius > > Michael Klobuchar bend heads with a Boomerang > > I don't even know what Stan Card or Ted Killian use...................they > just fucking tear it up , live!!! > > ****************** > So, constant obsession and endless bickering on this list over the years > about 'what's the best live looping device' always leaves > me bewildered. > > It's no more a helpful discussion than asking, "who's the best live > looper". > > These things are instruments and , in that sense. > > The real question is: > > How do we use our respective live looping devices creatively > and, even more importantly, > > what's the music like that we create. > > respectfully, Rick Walker aka looppool -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 10:20:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A894B3BE95; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=mwSoXPnS0CRRcRkZ3c5v0VE6/zR5TVrlwA9XWXYJtXyJXDBQKKTOwzZ+cG1VFVDbDp8tSC1IbxFJhBC6TqlQja8R+FQ+0thyoqLpiuU26GIe8Jk03rrg/szvFfiJYksC+/plZ3/DkBLhc2HLsHY8h40mPHQfXBiC+kyBvFFjHCk= ; X-YMail-OSG: ysZKj74VM1mr4VO3V.1eSbjxc8CevdcXp63KplSG3a_hkfHuczhdPtiXrv6klp_7LCvri5_RzZ8CMFCzK2VBxAg- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <20080312100713.15770@gmx.net> References: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <20080312100713.15770@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <80A02881-B6BA-4E80-952F-F8DC19E809D8@btinternet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:20:30 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: <5H9CBD.A.ut.7561HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:20:43 +0000 (UTC) LOL The DL4 is cool but a bit unreliable(in a very endearing way) - I =20 really like the way as you overdub the old loops gently fade out. MS www.mattstevensguitar.com On 12 Mar 2008, at 10:07, nico spahni wrote: > Right. So if I set up the mentioned devices in a chain, I'm bound =20 > to end up with the most overwhelmingly beautiful music ever =20 > created... or did I get it wrong again? ;-) > > Cheers > > Nico > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 02:25:07 -0700 >> Von: "Rick Walker" >> An: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \\(posting\\)" > delight.com> >> Betreff: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE > >> I've been actively using dedicated digital looping devices since =20 >> 1995. >> >> I own and use five different live looping hardware technologies: >> >> the Line 6 DL-4 >> >> the Electrix Repeater >> >> the Gibson EDP with loop IV software by Aurisis >> >> the Looperlative >> >> and now, a KAOSS3 pad by Korg (which allows for midi synchronized =20= >> looping >> and resampling of loops). >> >> >> >> I also have hosted over 200 incredible live looping artists from 12 >> countries at the annual Y2K series Live Looping Festivals and >> seen or heard part or all of their sets >> so I know a thing or two about what's out in the world >> >> So, it is true that if I had to go to a desert Island with only =20 >> one live >> looping device that I'd take my Looperlative with me. >> >> >> However: >> >> I've seen Andy Butler and Andre Lafosse do mind boggling work with =20= >> their >> EDPs (that have a less >> than impressive Apple IIC processor in them and are mono). >> >> Genie blow my mind with a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller (activated at =20= >> times >> with his bare toes!!!!); >> >> Bill Walker impress everyone with his work on an Electrix Repeater =20= >> (and >> now, >> an LP-1) >> >> I've seen Kid Beyond do amazing things with a laptop running =20 >> Ableton's >> Live; >> >> Jeff Kaiser and Krispen Hartung do ridiculously hip things with =20 >> Max/MSP: >> >> Matthias Grob and Per Boysen tear it up using Plogue Bidule and =20 >> Mobius >> >> Michael Klobuchar bend heads with a Boomerang >> >> I don't even know what Stan Card or Ted Killian =20 >> use...................they >> just fucking tear it up , live!!! >> >> ****************** >> So, constant obsession and endless bickering on this list over =20 >> the years >> about 'what's the best live looping device' always leaves >> me bewildered. >> >> It's no more a helpful discussion than asking, "who's the best live >> looper". >> >> These things are instruments and , in that sense. >> >> The real question is: >> >> How do we use our respective live looping devices creatively >> and, even more importantly, >> >> what's the music like that we create. >> >> respectfully, Rick Walker aka looppool > > --=20 > Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? > Der kann`s mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 11:41:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 830E43BE87; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <63866057-8D38-4EBF-BAF7-85B3BA5FB5F9@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:41:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <1vjp5B.A.8FD.2F81HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper? On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I've been actively using dedicated digital looping devices since 1995. > > I own and use five different live looping hardware technologies: > > the Line 6 DL-4 > > the Electrix Repeater > > the Gibson EDP with loop IV software by Aurisis > > the Looperlative > > and now, a KAOSS3 pad by Korg (which allows for midi synchronized > looping and resampling of loops). > > > > I also have hosted over 200 incredible live looping artists from 12 > countries at the annual Y2K series Live Looping Festivals and > seen or heard part or all of their sets > so I know a thing or two about what's out in the world > > So, it is true that if I had to go to a desert Island with only > one live looping device that I'd take my Looperlative with me. > > > However: > > I've seen Andy Butler and Andre Lafosse do mind boggling work with > their EDPs (that have a less > than impressive Apple IIC processor in them and are mono). > > Genie blow my mind with a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller (activated at > times with his bare toes!!!!); > > Bill Walker impress everyone with his work on an Electrix Repeater > (and now, an LP-1) > > I've seen Kid Beyond do amazing things with a laptop running > Ableton's Live; > > Jeff Kaiser and Krispen Hartung do ridiculously hip things with Max/ > MSP: > > Matthias Grob and Per Boysen tear it up using Plogue Bidule and Mobius > > Michael Klobuchar bend heads with a Boomerang > > I don't even know what Stan Card or Ted Killian > use...................they just fucking tear it up , live!!! > > ****************** > So, constant obsession and endless bickering on this list over > the years about 'what's the best live looping device' always leaves > me bewildered. > > It's no more a helpful discussion than asking, "who's the best > live looper". > > These things are instruments and , in that sense. > > The real question is: > > How do we use our respective live looping devices creatively > and, even more importantly, > > what's the music like that we create. > > respectfully, Rick Walker aka looppool From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 13:36:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FB223BE8B; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=kp6JXqT+/5IJWTYUV1tAsx6ETgvFByrgjjKVQkAI1mg=; b=eCNQIOJcoCYxBzrOK8ci1Qe+tm1Wl0QrLtJj/WF/TBzxMYSRwdWYLuNG0W3pAo/EfKQorgiLkbt6D84I1t5f39+DjvHoM9DRTLV7tt9Lg6wPYkjNsFJsUHWMHZXugD1okyqQi4eaof4EEdyeKOeINiOuW3tfp2q7f3uuXS82Qyw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=vAI6XKNP6gLUXbqvGghBbWPPOQURZcrguKFX8WXhz5IwNdHbsbO0abgXO/8pDmdmMoj9sD+fkWaP/jSvkZN9F9H0CefwCgmr4hRKm6Glm+dNo6zzzxiO6i+UHzC40gYOxHUyByWobfZgQA/LsDpoFQdiALnKG0+SbUWZkD0t7jU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:36:31 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE In-Reply-To: <63866057-8D38-4EBF-BAF7-85B3BA5FB5F9@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <63866057-8D38-4EBF-BAF7-85B3BA5FB5F9@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:36:33 +0000 (UTC) > Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper? Zoe. Duh. ;) On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper? > > > On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > I've been actively using dedicated digital looping devices since 1995. > > > > I own and use five different live looping hardware technologies: > > > > the Line 6 DL-4 > > > > the Electrix Repeater > > > > the Gibson EDP with loop IV software by Aurisis > > > > the Looperlative > > > > and now, a KAOSS3 pad by Korg (which allows for midi synchronized > > looping and resampling of loops). > > > > > > > > I also have hosted over 200 incredible live looping artists from 12 > > countries at the annual Y2K series Live Looping Festivals and > > seen or heard part or all of their sets > > so I know a thing or two about what's out in the world > > > > So, it is true that if I had to go to a desert Island with only > > one live looping device that I'd take my Looperlative with me. > > > > > > However: > > > > I've seen Andy Butler and Andre Lafosse do mind boggling work with > > their EDPs (that have a less > > than impressive Apple IIC processor in them and are mono). > > > > Genie blow my mind with a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller (activated at > > times with his bare toes!!!!); > > > > Bill Walker impress everyone with his work on an Electrix Repeater > > (and now, an LP-1) > > > > I've seen Kid Beyond do amazing things with a laptop running > > Ableton's Live; > > > > Jeff Kaiser and Krispen Hartung do ridiculously hip things with Max/ > > MSP: > > > > Matthias Grob and Per Boysen tear it up using Plogue Bidule and Mobius > > > > Michael Klobuchar bend heads with a Boomerang > > > > I don't even know what Stan Card or Ted Killian > > use...................they just fucking tear it up , live!!! > > > > ****************** > > So, constant obsession and endless bickering on this list over > > the years about 'what's the best live looping device' always leaves > > me bewildered. > > > > It's no more a helpful discussion than asking, "who's the best > > live looper". > > > > These things are instruments and , in that sense. > > > > The real question is: > > > > How do we use our respective live looping devices creatively > > and, even more importantly, > > > > what's the music like that we create. > > > > respectfully, Rick Walker aka looppool > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 13:39:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA0883BE8E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=mHtu35tEgkS5SYY9RHbyqfyIPS4pew66JJ0USobNOkz8OnElOjKmxJdoxjc+LO4bAmYbgttQnWQnkATzl1v757/Me2oyYaUjcTuWdo6bnjWTOzfHvAoN3KnToTTLV5BfA64kNQcu0I2yht/dlS0R+KqgbQ02VKO6q3A9vOYdSjU=; X-YMail-OSG: TQli4RkVM1k4jQu0X5NUhjxJGIrRSBkNiGuqlY2ALhtadUc1NwEgr8lRQbBu7uSsxZRSg7xzKd0S09AlVK1378cpHpuNRXvzP0birpFaKYjXOsksuuQCgcX4zv4M1Q-- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 06:39:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: timefactor? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120803120123o5eff168bv680e534031d7b5d3@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1081601333-1205329176=:60852" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <712836.60852.qm@web35106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:39:37 +0000 (UTC) --0-1081601333-1205329176=:60852 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi: I will be purchasing a Timefactor very shortly based on a couple of influences. The Guitarworld demo is very impressive - for my needs. It struck me as it is exactly what I'm looking for in my sound. I used to get similar results from other effects units (a la TC Electronics stuff). Also, I just "exercised" a Modfactor for a couple of weeks. I liked the Modfactor but when I heard the Timefactor (and balanced my funds/needs) I decided in its favor instead. There were a few echo effects on the Modfactor and I liked those very much as well. I guess it depends on what one is seeking in a delay pedal (per Bill Walkers comments). Regards, Pavel Tom Ritchford wrote: Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker wrote: The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried. So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply cuts out bits of program material! (It's better in "looper" mode but I didn't get it as a looper...) 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I will be purchasing a Timefactor very shortly based on a couple of influences. The Guitarworld demo is very impressive - for my needs. It struck me as it is exactly what I'm looking for in my sound. I used to get similar results from other effects units (a la TC Electronics stuff). Also, I just "exercised" a Modfactor for a couple of weeks. I liked the Modfactor but when I heard the Timefactor (and balanced my funds/needs) I decided in its favor instead. There were a few echo effects on the Modfactor and I liked those very much as well. I guess it depends on what one is seeking in a delay pedal (per Bill Walkers comments).
 
Regards, Pavel

Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote:
Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried.

So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply cuts out bits of program material!  (It's better in "looper" mode but I didn't get it as a looper...)

Did I miss something?

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 14:51:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 333B23BE87; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <007b01c88427$e00b7f60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> References: <007b01c88427$e00b7f60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5A511D7B-9681-4F9F-8123-0D47A3307797@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: boss announce a new delay pedal Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:55:45 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Here's some video links: for the dd7: http://www.roland.com/demos/en/i0067/index.html for the "slicer": http://www.roland.com/demos/en/i0068/index.html On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:00 AM, Ben wrote: > This is what I found today: > BOSS ANNOUNCES THE DD-7 12/03/2008 > Boss announces the newest pedal in the best-selling DD-range. > Building on the tried-and-tested features from its predecessors, > the DD-7 considerably expands the creative potential with a number > of practical and inspiring features. > With up to 6.4 seconds of delay time, the DD-7 features a marked > increase on its predecessor. In addition, a newly-developed Hold > mode allows up to 40 seconds of input to be recorded for creating > atmospheric "sound-on-sound" performances. > The DD-7 is also equipped with two innovative new delay modes. > Modulation Delay provides chorus-flavoured sounds, while Analogue > Delay offers a modelled simulation of the classic Boss DM-2, > beloved by guitarists everywhere for its characteristic warmth. > For hands-free control, an external footswitch and expression > pedal (sold separately) can be used. Tap tempo rates can be > controlled from the external footswitch, while delay time, > feedback, and effect level can be changed on the fly via an > expression pedal. > The DD-7's stereo output can create some amazing effects, such as > spatial audio sweeps with true stereo panning. The stereo outputs > can even be configured as separate dry and wet signal paths - handy > for recording and live-performance control. Finally, the legendary > Boss build quality and reliability that has seen sales exceed 10 > million pedals globally comes as standard. > DD-7 at a glance > . Expanded delay time, up to 6.4 seconds > . Modulation Delay mode offers natural, chorus-type sounds > . Analogue Delay mode models the classic warm Boss DM-2 analogue > delay sound > . Tap tempo controllable via external footswitch > . Delay time, feedback, and effect level can be controlled via > external expression pedal (sold separately) > . Up to 40 seconds of recording for sound-on-sound (Hold mode) > performances > > This Hold mode can be interesting combined with the FB settings > and it's stereo. > I'll keep an eye on this. > Ben. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 15:52:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 300F03BE8C; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:52:43 -0500 Subject: RE: Firewire interface Thread-Topic: Firewire interface Thread-Index: AciD8GYhAuHqYvCxR3yCjMprP4PYAQAaBpaA Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE714407933299E@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <000001c883f0$db111a60$91334f20$@com> In-Reply-To: <000001c883f0$db111a60$91334f20$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:52:46 +0000 (UTC) I did some research on Firewire interfaces recently and for me it came down to the FA-101 and the MOTU Ultralite. Although it is around $170 more I ended up with the Ultralite. This is $50 over your price limit but I would consider it if you like the mixing features. My requirements: - 2 mic inputs - as many line inputs as possible - at least 4 outputs - MIDI - software mixer - small One difference is that Ultralite has S/PDIF while the FA has Toslink. For me S/PDIF was preferable as I have no Toslink devices. Ultralite has an extra 2 outputs (10 vs. 8) which I didn't really care about. The thing that really sold me on the Ultralite though is that it can function as a standalone mixer and comes with a software control panel called Cuemix. Any input can be routed to any output for zero latency monitoring, you can setup a quad of channels as a stereo effects send/return, setup different monitor and recording mixes, etc. This works great for use with and without a computer. You can do zero latency monitoring with the FA too but you have less control over what is being monitored and there is no software mixer. If this sounds interesting, download the Ultralite manual and read the section on Cuemix. If this looks like something you don't need and S/PDIF doesn't matter then the FA is a good value for an interface with this number of IO channels. I didn't like the M-Audio 1814 because I need a MIDI interface and you have to use a breakout cable to get MIDI connectors. The Ultralite was only $50 more with better software. The AudioFire8 looks very nice and would have met my needs but it was larger than both the Ultralite and FA (14 1/2 inches wide). The Alesis io 26 was too large for me, I didn't need that many mic pres. Same with the Firestudio, it looked nice but I didn't want a rack device. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 16:35:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99C133BE95; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:35:52 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=H4DW960rBmu0zTT3Dxin6A==:17 a=62hPNct7AAAA:8 a=YTFdYqB2UwrNbk67OxkA:9 a=L_vLBTPO2QgWRFubpvoA:7 a=GPhbVy4ZFBY2Uf1TVAjlG09q9cUA:4 a=98jSFH7WqmUA:10 a=ziFrdkHw70AA:10 From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: boss announce a new delay pedal Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:30:16 +0000 Message-Id: <031220081630.11932.47D805180007D5AC00002E9C2214756402CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Doesn't really seem like it does anything the DD-20 doesn't already. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Paul Mimlitsch > Here's some video links: > for the dd7: > > http://www.roland.com/demos/en/i0067/index.html > > > for the "slicer": > > http://www.roland.com/demos/en/i0068/index.html > > > > On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:00 AM, Ben wrote: > > > This is what I found today: > > BOSS ANNOUNCES THE DD-7 12/03/2008 > > Boss announces the newest pedal in the best-selling DD-range. > > Building on the tried-and-tested features from its predecessors, > > the DD-7 considerably expands the creative potential with a number > > of practical and inspiring features. > > With up to 6.4 seconds of delay time, the DD-7 features a marked > > increase on its predecessor. In addition, a newly-developed Hold > > mode allows up to 40 seconds of input to be recorded for creating > > atmospheric "sound-on-sound" performances. > > The DD-7 is also equipped with two innovative new delay modes. > > Modulation Delay provides chorus-flavoured sounds, while Analogue > > Delay offers a modelled simulation of the classic Boss DM-2, > > beloved by guitarists everywhere for its characteristic warmth. > > For hands-free control, an external footswitch and expression > > pedal (sold separately) can be used. Tap tempo rates can be > > controlled from the external footswitch, while delay time, > > feedback, and effect level can be changed on the fly via an > > expression pedal. > > The DD-7's stereo output can create some amazing effects, such as > > spatial audio sweeps with true stereo panning. The stereo outputs > > can even be configured as separate dry and wet signal paths - handy > > for recording and live-performance control. Finally, the legendary > > Boss build quality and reliability that has seen sales exceed 10 > > million pedals globally comes as standard. > > DD-7 at a glance > > . Expanded delay time, up to 6.4 seconds > > . Modulation Delay mode offers natural, chorus-type sounds > > . Analogue Delay mode models the classic warm Boss DM-2 analogue > > delay sound > > . Tap tempo controllable via external footswitch > > . Delay time, feedback, and effect level can be controlled via > > external expression pedal (sold separately) > > . Up to 40 seconds of recording for sound-on-sound (Hold mode) > > performances > > > > This Hold mode can be interesting combined with the FB settings > > and it's stereo. > > I'll keep an eye on this. > > Ben. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 16:39:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C65DE3BE93; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 351 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:39:16 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 327291.99773.bm@omp107.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=38Rbgsbixk260RPMrX0DKlLNNb43C9z5AU7EAgupQ4bFM+CFMGlZNIf7kox8QqBntuMsLEPn/lW6i2w6e/r0kcdeIx90errTCUutdRezj4vzBWdS5hCCOlXpoXH3y85RdSqQRTSfRwZyCRRsxdZTi+W6a3VB50cy1fCMXSYlhY0= ; X-YMail-OSG: lc9JeZcVM1kSG0ejDy0NH2lj8iawouV45Wk_3pG9sKughwMA5ufdpU3a85XeEHGOfmnQ848oKI88nsvNYmlnqpBn1dv0WvNnGPXKxzck2CxcEBqreJN4QoYTbteK3W0lZsOl4ZHlu4tjYQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <009201c8845e$c8673b60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> From: "Ben" To: Subject: SM Pro Audio announce three VST/VSTi compatible hardware units Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:33:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:39:16 +0000 (UTC) There is even a pedal board. Perhaps can Mobius run on this? http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=6253 Ben From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 16:39:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DB4F3BEAF; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE: Time factor Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:39:39 -0700 Message-ID: <002001c8845f$aaad9000$6901a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciEXdsrCoAq2CCwT8ibLON/IfdapgAARK4Q In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Hey om,if you are so disappointed in the time factor, you might as well send it to me :) But seriously I'm not sure what to say. I certainly can't expect everyone out there to like what I like, and though I've only tried the time factor a couple of times I really dug it. I really like the DL-4 which has been trashed a few times by people on this list as well as exalted by many. Have you tried hooking up an expression pedal to change delay time, perhaps you will achieve the desired effect that way. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 16:44:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74F0C3BE94; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <70f68b660803120944u796b6c70kb983dae827bcc389@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:44:46 -0600 From: "holotone@gmail.com" Sender: cole@holotone.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6617_17348162.1205340286922" References: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <63866057-8D38-4EBF-BAF7-85B3BA5FB5F9@mac.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: d969164c7a35a352 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:44:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6617_17348162.1205340286922 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hA! On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Tony K wrote: > > Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper? > > Zoe. > > Duh. > > ;) > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > > > Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper? > > > > -- http://holotone.net/ ------=_Part_6617_17348162.1205340286922 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hA!

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper?

Zoe.

Duh.

;)


On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
 
> Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper?
>




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http://holotone.net/ ------=_Part_6617_17348162.1205340286922-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 17:16:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D32B3BEB2; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=hnNKwLenYvJWUDsvU4iBb6yr5Ps3FJ1t8DOIF7GvJrA=; b=ofoRIFDg0XUgd8xXHLX9G5oRqPvKPR5D11VXH3bMZGXTN+0WEWG9UGIyB9prpUtIfv+YR+s6PFAhBoDhxdS6ydoMbhLF+Lqpzlf3/IHtb8QA5FQBHZBzYhJM4jFbyDjndXcMLWL/sMfq5k6COMBllC5yXjivSkBNVsfrUU05EyE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=iI1XQM3ZflRRMyhs415owAduCPkuU7KfXOUo4Ek3FWWlzUNp3DZr88xE2wYKNzHMTLKBeUglUD+JWgrT47VgQ3+slixQCBg7qaRz+FjDoYwxJYgRuieg8N2YnMu0Hd9bkZ5ay2J+dh+KftnTfxEHK90zz+1HKF+0slzfM9w5Ab0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:16:47 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Augustus Loop - Windows beta MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2dd1d433011337de Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'd appreciate feedback (no pun intended) on this, the first Windows version of Augustus Loop. http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/downloads/augustusloop_1_7_0_beta_win32.zip http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/downloads/augustusloop_1_7_0_beta_manual.pdf http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/downloads/licencemanager_1_0_10_win32.zip It's taken a while to get here, but I feel that this version is a good release candidate. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 17:40:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26D5E3BEA4; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000f01c88468$1b3718c0$6c052052@customer3530f5> From: "Ian Popperwell" To: References: <26ba8d120803120123o5eff168bv680e534031d7b5d3@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: timefactor? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:40:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C88468.1AFDE050" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:40:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C88468.1AFDE050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tom, In answer to your question, I guess you have missed trying the speeding = up/slowing down effects on all the different types of delay - it is = implimented on some and not on others. I know that it's (pitch changing) = is a great effect, but to be "deeply disapointed" in the TimeFactor is a = little beyond me. The quality of the effects, the controllability, the = use of 2 lots of footswitches, expression pedal, MIDI, USB, = upgradability, sheer range of delay intervals, dual delays, the excelent = implimentation of the various models... without getting into the = looper... I have a few gripes too, some of them were sorted out in the = software update though and I'm sure that others will be in future = updates. Try changing the delay time on different delay types, some will = pitch change and others won't - for me, the cutting/stretching the time = is great for setting up interesting rythms using the repeat switch and = tapping in different tempos. Ian. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Ritchford=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: timefactor? Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the = RC-50 in the next couple of days. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker = wrote: The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever = tried.=20 So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... in = particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing pleasing = pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply cuts out = bits of program material! (It's better in "looper" mode but I didn't = get it as a looper...) Did I miss something? ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C88468.1AFDE050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hi Tom,
 
In answer to your question, I guess you have missed = trying the=20 speeding up/slowing down effects on all the different types of delay - = it is=20 implimented on some and not on others. I know that it's (pitch changing) = is a=20 great effect, but to be "deeply disapointed" in the TimeFactor is a = little=20 beyond me. The quality of the effects, the controllability, the use of 2 = lots of=20 footswitches, expression pedal, MIDI, USB, upgradability, sheer range of = delay=20 intervals, dual delays, the excelent implimentation of the various = models...=20 without getting into the looper... I have a few gripes too, some of them = were=20 sorted out in the software update though and I'm sure that others will = be in=20 future updates. Try changing the delay time on different delay types, = some will=20 pitch change and others won't - for me, the cutting/stretching the time = is great=20 for setting up interesting rythms using the repeat switch and tapping in = different tempos.
 
Ian.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom = Ritchford
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 = 8:23=20 AM
Subject: timefactor?

Finally getting the studio back up here.... = expect=20 results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William = Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> = wrote:
The=20 Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried.=20

So I have one right here and I am so far = deeply=20 disappointed.... in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, = instead of=20 hearing pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) = it simply=20 cuts out bits of program material!  (It's better in "looper" mode = but I=20 didn't get it as a looper...)

Did I miss=20 something?
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C88468.1AFDE050-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 18:51:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C94FC3BE9E; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00db01c88472$21e25b80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:51:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Tony K wrote about this question: > Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper? "Zoe. Duh." I agree with you wholeheartedly, Tony...........Zoe is not only an inspiringly creative and accomplished live looping artist but she is also a true beauty (inside and out) but one has to also mention enigmatic and sexy Amy X Neuburg, adorable Imogen Heap and, of course, the smoldering Andre LaFosse ;-) Rick Walker, who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with him. And, as long as we're at this nonsense..................what's the best looking looping hardware gear? the best looking midi footpedal? Who has the coolest live looping footware? The sexiest live looping bling? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 19:08:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0F3C3BE98; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:08:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Xi8VlxGrlzCey5+7NGMVsURj6yWliw/WWFFbCfgVt/WK2AveRQeAgLVVFrWqyWXQBjZq5HEeRHjVvXKhQP6pju63t0gKDSV5Bdfsfq0orEfla6eBY0QDB2QV841UHR61ACdXUAOsIkN+cKPrpSHfD3Z3Wd2D7IDIAXRGI7RzAok=; X-YMail-OSG: clfKI_kVM1nQDkmJtTPanvZjZGk19GL6x5IURwlQguz4R_QpJF6SzxavXy7WwmN.jMydZBiwHHRuzKvusxzoiBuLkDO2QzSiEmdVRJDaGxxkjIiR9g_rmaAy9FZo0Q-- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:08:01 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: New gear: Roland Slicer (twin) pedal To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071211194453.EEED13BEB6@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-450119466-1205348881=:97298" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <512126.97298.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:08:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-450119466-1205348881=:97298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i was trying to find more info in the stated boss DD-7 pedal that someone mentioned earlier, saw this: http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_roomnews.asp?ID=280 http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_room_catdet.asp?id=SL20 (may need to cut and paste it in-my yahoo email is not making it a link) looked like an interesting pedal. of course to me, mr. simple, it looks a bit complicated (and not intuitive), but that's me. sounds like it does things i had read that samplers from a few yrs ago do. do drool, complain, whatever.... s--- --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --0-450119466-1205348881=:97298 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i was trying to find more info in the stated boss DD-7 pedal that someone mentioned earlier, saw this:

http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_roomnews.asp?ID=280

http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_room_catdet.asp?id=SL20


(may need to cut and paste it in-my yahoo email is not making it a link)
looked like an interesting pedal.
of course to me, mr. simple, it looks a bit complicated (and not intuitive), but that's me.
sounds like it does things i had read that samplers from a few yrs ago do.
do drool, complain, whatever....
s---



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------=_Part_13156_16853225.1205352894658-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 20:15:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12D5E3BEC7; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yejZ43isHeEgqWVpj2dVQmGvYJZIJfU+FOcBndprK5A=; b=bfu9+b5ZnZM+muTKtjIP79i5qMuIf6wwBH1K9x+zs7K8BHQZqQVrgFJLZXa5gbEjeNdDnSix04UB2Twg9H+oyTKVxuyjZ8BY4gF8BCGk8nFKUoIMapI9l07KqJPxIbRZC22KAPgref0YklhvCVYx4p8xp4rO/y7e12g6P3czWJ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GVevA+g/BvPZTwZeM+8/M4ir2X9CV3QTF2fZVnqmxFG+EwjPQoFwYcz/dcOg6vt379dKJW4rRIJizL/uBX0k6bXDRA4V/Ua7i9nAsqCvUdLzrS/NOZYKn6t2MiIu3PK918MrxtJrVKu/BQq4IrT+zYmrF2AFS5oF2kO57fg3zrc= Message-ID: <37f071c00803121314k7aade1afv195b4dd44557d9cf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:14:57 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE In-Reply-To: <00db01c88472$21e25b80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6822_1123600.1205352897477" References: <00db01c88472$21e25b80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:15:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6822_1123600.1205352897477 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > > > Rick Walker, > who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a > Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with him. I am so in agreement with you here. The SG is THE one guitar to rule them all. Wish I had one (with a nice Bigsby trem). Sigh. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_6822_1123600.1205352897477 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Rick Walker,
who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a
Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with him.

I am so in agreement with you here.  The SG is THE one guitar to rule them all.  Wish I had one (with a nice Bigsby trem).  Sigh.

Kevin

--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_6822_1123600.1205352897477-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 20:32:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2038D3BEB9; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:32:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=uLOhYUervsBhWlXFqu7yOr9f+gzl8PmAHsKgpfU16zOBW1x5yKNnjJy5ouHs3DGzXjkfPL+FJxG0M1z1LdOlga+MnjTFrUzbTGRWwEIrRDyBgJfVANB33tlOShrYgkxtKtY/iFuL9UniP1KByC3DxYC4B1N8Ooc92KuXghG2xxs= ; X-YMail-OSG: mfideNUVM1myb_iy33FZfun23QfqyLvX.7Qns_XFI6ceC.._8Zyv33dyt.jAVZS6vp6pp.B5vBH4yoS5LfpXuRYr1G_6qLj8Q.3KOdw7NfM7_Ppo X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <37f071c00803121314k7aade1afv195b4dd44557d9cf@mail.gmail.com> References: <00db01c88472$21e25b80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <37f071c00803121314k7aade1afv195b4dd44557d9cf@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--586512381 Message-Id: <0C67B695-96F1-4B3F-B82F-F541B5B93DE6@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:32:34 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:32:46 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--586512381 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed SGs are great untill you drop them and then the necks just snap!(it happend to me) MS www.mattstevensguitar.com On 12 Mar 2008, at 20:14, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > Rick Walker, > who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a > Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with him. > > I am so in agreement with you here. The SG is THE one guitar to > rule them all. Wish I had one (with a nice Bigsby trem). Sigh. > > Kevin > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org --Apple-Mail-2--586512381 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 SGs are great untill you drop them and then the necks just snap!(it = happend to me)

MS

www.mattstevensguitar.com

On 12 Mar 2008, at 20:14, Kevin Cheli-Colando = wrote:


Rick Walker,
who thinks a Gibson SG = is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a
Fender Stratocaster = but can't get anyone to agree with him.

I am so in = agreement with you here.=A0 The SG is THE one guitar to rule them all.=A0 = Wish I had one (with a nice Bigsby trem).=A0 Sigh.

Kevin

--

Till now you seriously considered yourself = to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which = is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi = (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org

= --Apple-Mail-2--586512381-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 20:33:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64F903BECA; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Wtz6V69NlZIT1aKD3ANpMC3e7fL7BdI1tIMsDolSSqoP67QWa2SSYk3wRzpSGq6WNCONCxEw3Va+rrP/AIR+QVqxMtZI1amRZ6wWMrlTVkW8VSTJ8lOe2tlePG49/dAzUMwka2arc/DL5ZJW4bZKdkzDJCHZsDn6XZZ36lrAlnY=; X-YMail-OSG: QXFtit8VM1mcRaS4XHfoA4Y8f_3q7A4z_iSPy81wRbkMyuroQSZVdXV2pr5.7iWnvI701l6wR5fcGiI0fax0F1TWuhiks1R_0_jwiJkfCpwgTDGphvQaqwElhxIZ99v3Lh8kbSgbOWqsoPWxpuiAHXEgJw-- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:33:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37f071c00803121314k7aade1afv195b4dd44557d9cf@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1199332142-1205353989=:23468" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <582442.23468.qm@web53001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:33:10 +0000 (UTC) --0-1199332142-1205353989=:23468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was once the proud owner of a beautiful 1963 SG special, without doubt the best guitar I ever owned. Really slim fast neck, it felt and played just right, great sound, despite the fact that a previous owner had replaced the bridge P90 with a humbucker. I've always regretted selling it. Stephen http://www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: Rick Walker, who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with him. I am so in agreement with you here. The SG is THE one guitar to rule them all. Wish I had one (with a nice Bigsby trem). Sigh. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1199332142-1205353989=:23468 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was once the proud owner of a beautiful 1963 SG special, without doubt the best guitar I ever owned.  Really slim fast neck, it felt and played just right, great sound, despite the fact that a previous owner had replaced the bridge P90 with a humbucker.  I've always regretted selling it.

Stephen
http://www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher

Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

Rick Walker,
who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a
Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with him.

I am so in agreement with you here.  The SG is THE one guitar to rule them all.  Wish I had one (with a nice Bigsby trem).  Sigh.

Kevin

--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org

Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1199332142-1205353989=:23468-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 21:00:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 471C73BEBE; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:00:09 -0500 Subject: RE: SM Pro Audio announce three VST/VSTi compatible hardware units Thread-Topic: SM Pro Audio announce three VST/VSTi compatible hardware units Thread-Index: AciEX54EO6GD2Ry1Sp6ocYLUCFSgqgAJC2JQ Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144079332A5D@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <009201c8845e$c8673b60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> In-Reply-To: <009201c8845e$c8673b60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Interesting. My guess is that it's another Receptor-ish thing that runs it's own proprietary operating system. I tried to find out more about the "Powered by VFX hardware platform" they mention but couldn't find anything other than press releases. Like the Receptor this will most likely only run VSTs that strictly adhere to the VST and VSTGUI APIs and don't do *anything* that touches the OS directly. Mobius is not one of these. I wish them well but for many VST developers this will be yet another platform they have to port to. I love their industrial design though. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 21:08:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 248F33BECF; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=e+ZxONuI3QzfvEK4HUaUVnLqh8LOMLt2UOsOvrExPo+snAvtGT/JqXUeJk3qWy/t; h=Received:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Content-Type:To:From:Subject:Date:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <05A243EE-0238-4846-B0FF-DF63817BDE0B@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Coffin Subject: Re: boss announce a new delay pedal Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:08:10 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79da36064b0ecff1b896de40ba3544eb9e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.48.174 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Well, you can jack an exp. pedal into it to control feedback. That's huge, no? Christophe said: > Doesn't really seem like it does anything the DD-20 doesn't already. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 21:10:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22DEB3BEDA; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <512126.97298.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <512126.97298.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--584258109 Message-Id: <84A3752A-3937-495D-AA1B-CAE92D7F0CFB@mac.com> From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: New gear: Roland Slicer (twin) pedal Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:10:08 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: <_u2MSC.A.N5D.5aE2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:10:17 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--584258109 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed sounds like recycle in a pedal.... way cool. Teddy On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:08 PM, scott hansen wrote: > i was trying to find more info in the stated boss DD-7 pedal that > someone mentioned earlier, saw this: > > http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_roomnews.asp?ID=280 > > http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_room_catdet.asp?id=SL20 > > > (may need to cut and paste it in-my yahoo email is not making it a > link) > looked like an interesting pedal. > of course to me, mr. simple, it looks a bit complicated (and not > intuitive), but that's me. > sounds like it does things i had read that samplers from a few yrs > ago do. > do drool, complain, whatever.... > s--- --Apple-Mail-1--584258109 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII sounds like recycle in a pedal.... way cool.

Teddy


On Mar 12, = 2008, at 3:08 PM, scott hansen wrote:

i was = trying to find more info in the stated boss DD-7 pedal that someone = mentioned earlier, saw this:

http://www.r= oland.co.uk/guitar_roomnews.asp?ID=3D280

http://www.roland.co.u= k/guitar_room_catdet.asp?id=3DSL20


(may need to cut and paste = it in-my yahoo email is not making it a link)
looked like an = interesting pedal.
of course to me, mr. simple, it looks a bit = complicated (and not intuitive), but that's me.
sounds like it does = things i had read that samplers from a few yrs ago do.
do drool, = complain, whatever....
s---

 =

= --Apple-Mail-1--584258109-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 22:22:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 461BC3BEC8; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:22:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=WHZ2xQ4C5vjtk8SvBeAH0GFN3qNkDOFDY4BvPKL0afQ=; b=Fb9EQeEdmlkhk4l/YP1YuzDAXOvtk/2oBySnrllO5YX0W6W/IM6RoqYN4qrcmxWqATSafS+w3RSJidmF9fovNgPTbnXoCN3YrWPWlZw/iUrxG9OQq7vEySqDp4ALvLD0DI7j0bvLG/lZbH5psafGYJyTHpgYv6zIiV1SuMtgT2o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=SiLAngetQvYoEy2PbLh+6J23Qb5NPCRUW8LW8xcaVzj20KOZs3bbwsbOqHLKHXWVERYSbGFnShc9akeYSJh7lX062tvFZRZC0aRP1Nqf9rw1pUIobD+EovpzKBU2lDYNAThcjYsGJtuZPZ1rbLtFAXe+kVqJGD2JspVHYZ5yeqo= Message-ID: <26ba8d120803121522l5b7fa30fl71f12d76de64858e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:22:53 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: timefactor? In-Reply-To: <000f01c88468$1b3718c0$6c052052@customer3530f5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2370_29925368.1205360573455" References: <26ba8d120803120123o5eff168bv680e534031d7b5d3@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c88468$1b3718c0$6c052052@customer3530f5> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5747fffa3506bdb6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:22:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2370_29925368.1205360573455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well -- I think the issue might be that I have version 1. I've heard that version 2 is a lot better. Stay tuned, I'm going to upgrade.... On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Ian Popperwell wrote: > Hi Tom, > > In answer to your question, I guess you have missed trying the speeding > up/slowing down effects on all the different types of delay - it is > implimented on some and not on others. I know that it's (pitch changing) is > a great effect, but to be "deeply disapointed" in the TimeFactor is a little > beyond me. The quality of the effects, the controllability, the use of 2 > lots of footswitches, expression pedal, MIDI, USB, upgradability, sheer > range of delay intervals, dual delays, the excelent implimentation of the > various models... without getting into the looper... I have a few gripes > too, some of them were sorted out in the software update though and I'm sure > that others will be in future updates. Try changing the delay time on > different delay types, some will pitch change and others won't - for me, the > cutting/stretching the time is great for setting up interesting rythms using > the repeat switch and tapping in different tempos. > > Ian. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Tom Ritchford > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:23 AM > *Subject:* timefactor? > > Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in > the next couple of days. > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker > wrote: > > > The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried. > > > > So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... in > particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing pleasing > pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply cuts out bits > of program material! (It's better in "looper" mode but I didn't get it as a > looper...) > > Did I miss something? > > -- /t ------=_Part_2370_29925368.1205360573455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well -- I think the issue might be that I have version 1.  I've heard that version 2 is a lot better.  Stay tuned, I'm going to upgrade....

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Ian Popperwell <popperwell@iname.com> wrote:
Hi Tom,
 
In answer to your question, I guess you have missed trying the speeding up/slowing down effects on all the different types of delay - it is implimented on some and not on others. I know that it's (pitch changing) is a great effect, but to be "deeply disapointed" in the TimeFactor is a little beyond me. The quality of the effects, the controllability, the use of 2 lots of footswitches, expression pedal, MIDI, USB, upgradability, sheer range of delay intervals, dual delays, the excelent implimentation of the various models... without getting into the looper... I have a few gripes too, some of them were sorted out in the software update though and I'm sure that others will be in future updates. Try changing the delay time on different delay types, some will pitch change and others won't - for me, the cutting/stretching the time is great for setting up interesting rythms using the repeat switch and tapping in different tempos.
 
Ian.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject: timefactor?

Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried.

So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply cuts out bits of program material!  (It's better in "looper" mode but I didn't get it as a looper...)

Did I miss something?



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------=_Part_2370_29925368.1205360573455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 22:24:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 682993BED6; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=/dwN/dsfKibnijYvAnB2qsevSw+gQqyihXErOuQrJW4=; b=fuJl1A9lKc5jaQTiUtVJY10mZ91ycvYqy465zuzM9JeEmB8UmJ9n2DzCt+9CIS1Ze8LcwVZCkBuTR6Kv0Y03wl2U8m++TB0ewmhGJHvCGQpQUZQ2QEW45o6tpCuBiXaNBZVppIllYBVsn6HGhO6mSvS1TXXYFfYDM/UFiioJ764= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=g5GUjFNKIuLWwTwnONCN4m6AdbmI+aOoqty9Mwm0fEMwwPIetSd4dT7bDlDdGkxDMBv+0YfnlXEj67jg9uSmaRUiADbnmIaSa46PMQmgaccRIUKKRg26K76wBacInhk89YU2mZudT8zCkQfJ88iuM9HFkMHLXOerv/25igaIiSI= Message-ID: <26ba8d120803121524h3c8a25a8hc1f28fe51cef9329@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:24:18 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight Subject: slightly OT: amazing musical program (if this video is to be trusted) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2373_26704820.1205360658961" X-Google-Sender-Auth: ae4776705640edcc Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:24:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2373_26704820.1205360658961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna Allows you to pull individual notes out of chords in digital audio and move them around. The demo is very ! -- /t ------=_Part_2373_26704820.1205360658961 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna

Allows you to pull individual notes out of chords in digital audio and move them around.  The demo is very !

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------=_Part_2373_26704820.1205360658961-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 22:34:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 94B243BED5; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:34:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000701c88491$393f1920$6c052052@customer3530f5> From: "Ian Popperwell" To: References: <26ba8d120803120123o5eff168bv680e534031d7b5d3@mail.gmail.com> <000f01c88468$1b3718c0$6c052052@customer3530f5> <26ba8d120803121522l5b7fa30fl71f12d76de64858e@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: timefactor? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:34:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C88491.39168280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <_ERA5C.A.rIH.mpF2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:34:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C88491.39168280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, do that, I've still got the Beta version and it has done a lot = that I wanted. And, in doing so, really gave me confidence that here is = a pedal that Evantide are committing to and taking user feedback to = develop it. I've never had a delay pedal that I've thought "it's great, = but compromised by the lack of X or Y" then suddenly, they are both = there! See what you think - andemail Eventide with your comments and = suggestions too. Best. Ian ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Ritchford=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: Re: timefactor? Well -- I think the issue might be that I have version 1. I've heard = that version 2 is a lot better. Stay tuned, I'm going to upgrade.... On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Ian Popperwell = wrote: Hi Tom, In answer to your question, I guess you have missed trying the = speeding up/slowing down effects on all the different types of delay - = it is implimented on some and not on others. I know that it's (pitch = changing) is a great effect, but to be "deeply disapointed" in the = TimeFactor is a little beyond me. The quality of the effects, the = controllability, the use of 2 lots of footswitches, expression pedal, = MIDI, USB, upgradability, sheer range of delay intervals, dual delays, = the excelent implimentation of the various models... without getting = into the looper... I have a few gripes too, some of them were sorted out = in the software update though and I'm sure that others will be in future = updates. Try changing the delay time on different delay types, some will = pitch change and others won't - for me, the cutting/stretching the time = is great for setting up interesting rythms using the repeat switch and = tapping in different tempos. Ian. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Tom Ritchford=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:23 AM Subject: timefactor? Finally getting the studio back up here.... expect results on the = RC-50 in the next couple of days. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William Walker = wrote: The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever = tried.=20 So I have one right here and I am so far deeply disappointed.... = in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, instead of hearing = pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time compression) it simply = cuts out bits of program material! (It's better in "looper" mode but I = didn't get it as a looper...) Did I miss something? --=20 /t ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C88491.39168280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Yeah, do that, I've still got the Beta version and = it has done=20 a lot that I wanted. And, in doing so, really gave me confidence that = here is a=20 pedal that Evantide are committing to and taking user feedback to = develop it.=20 I've never had a delay pedal that I've thought "it's great, but = compromised by=20 the lack of X or Y" then suddenly, they are both there!
 
See what you think - andemail Eventide with your = comments and=20 suggestions too.
 
Best. Ian
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Tom = Ritchford
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 = 10:22=20 PM
Subject: Re: timefactor?

Well -- I think the issue might be that I have version = 1. =20 I've heard that version 2 is a lot better.  Stay tuned, I'm going = to=20 upgrade....

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Ian = Popperwell <popperwell@iname.com> = wrote:
Hi Tom,
 
In answer to your question, I guess you have = missed trying=20 the speeding up/slowing down effects on all the different types of = delay -=20 it is implimented on some and not on others. I know that it's (pitch = changing) is a great effect, but to be "deeply disapointed" in the=20 TimeFactor is a little beyond me. The quality of the effects, the=20 controllability, the use of 2 lots of footswitches, expression = pedal, MIDI,=20 USB, upgradability, sheer range of delay intervals, dual delays, the = excelent implimentation of the various models... without getting = into the=20 looper... I have a few gripes too, some of them were sorted out in = the=20 software update though and I'm sure that others will be in future = updates.=20 Try changing the delay time on different delay types, some will = pitch change=20 and others won't - for me, the cutting/stretching the time is great = for=20 setting up interesting rythms using the repeat switch and tapping in = different tempos.
 
Ian.
 
 
----- = Original=20 Message -----
From:=20 Tom=20 Ritchford
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:=20 Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:23 AM
Subject:=20 timefactor?

Finally getting the studio back up = here.... expect=20 results on the RC-50 in the next couple of days.

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:37 AM, William = Walker=20 <billwalker@baymoon.com> wrote:
The=20 Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever = tried.=20

So I have one right here and I am so = far deeply=20 disappointed.... in particular, when you tweak the "time" knobs, = instead=20 of hearing pleasing pitch changes (or on the Repeater time = compression) it=20 simply cuts out bits of program material!  (It's better in = "looper"=20 mode but I didn't get it as a looper...)

Did I miss=20 = something?


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------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C88491.39168280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 22:42:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C81F13BEC4; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:42:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1632 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:42:55 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cnsp.biz Message-ID: <007e01c8848e$9c876300$0200a8c0@LeeLeeRoddy> From: To: References: <512126.97298.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <84A3752A-3937-495D-AA1B-CAE92D7F0CFB@mac.com> Subject: Re: New gear: Roland Slicer (twin) pedal Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:15:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007B_01C8845C.5113F820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:42:55 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C8845C.5113F820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The new Roland Slicer reminds me of a more logical version of the = Adrennalinn...Rod=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Teddy Kumpel=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 3:10 PM Subject: Re: New gear: Roland Slicer (twin) pedal sounds like recycle in a pedal.... way cool. Teddy On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:08 PM, scott hansen wrote: i was trying to find more info in the stated boss DD-7 pedal that = someone mentioned earlier, saw this: http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_roomnews.asp?ID=3D280 http://www.roland.co.uk/guitar_room_catdet.asp?id=3DSL20 (may need to cut and paste it in-my yahoo email is not making it a = link) looked like an interesting pedal. of course to me, mr. simple, it looks a bit complicated (and not = intuitive), but that's me. sounds like it does things i had read that samplers from a few yrs = ago do. do drool, complain, whatever.... s--- ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C8845C.5113F820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The new Roland Slicer = reminds me=20 of a more logical version of the Adrennalinn...Rod =
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Teddy = Kumpel=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 = 3:10=20 PM
Subject: Re: New gear: Roland = Slicer=20 (twin) pedal

sounds like recycle in a pedal.... way cool.

Teddy


On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:08 PM, scott hansen wrote:
i was trying to find more info in the stated = boss=20 DD-7 pedal that someone mentioned earlier, saw this:

http://www.= roland.co.uk/guitar_roomnews.asp?ID=3D280

http://= www.roland.co.uk/guitar_room_catdet.asp?id=3DSL20


(may=20 need to cut and paste it in-my yahoo email is not making it a=20 link)
looked like an interesting pedal.
of course to me, mr. = simple,=20 it looks a bit complicated (and not intuitive), but that's = me.
sounds=20 like it does things i had read that samplers from a few yrs ago = do.
do=20 drool, complain, whatever....
s---

------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C8845C.5113F820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 22:53:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62C5C3BEDC; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XOt84XnuGZYqoX+/uPRdW18hvWZ+JzAyNZYItV4cgOY=; b=df12lgPaW9bfgtVuCSsjlGMpSiaO0QebsmqZRPsbFBdGNvy+mI4eztF76fFGoxh/R5dfUpeD9KWKRvfpLE9p9Tw5ywqgMoX4/nWtX/Z/PDl7Pw8wJyPoWQ+Dbwy62JSBewrtKdYlGAgyBmz77IoGQg25nvVGejQc2Iw6jKwSiIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uFgqizDQwZnB2M9e7tY0euFhO554w7YRN9+emhqsBhtI8fuKY+ZZCEBPfP5nC6cfV5tDN5evwAFwBL4oHIEvmmWyS75/4xhVeqGpzBlFgCGfAIWlcaundRQsAe4gMY4/6YXe8p1RJgkp9YWQFwR5r9wSxtnr63XOexZzOZMEO2Q= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:53:23 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE In-Reply-To: <63866057-8D38-4EBF-BAF7-85B3BA5FB5F9@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <007f01c88422$f67ada20$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <63866057-8D38-4EBF-BAF7-85B3BA5FB5F9@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Yep. Zoe. Definitely. ...and not just cause she used a Repeater. ~~ Dennis On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Well said. So now, who's the best LOOKING live looper? > > > On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:25 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > I've been actively using dedicated digital looping devices since 1995. > > > > I own and use five different live looping hardware technologies: > > > > the Line 6 DL-4 > > > > the Electrix Repeater > > > > the Gibson EDP with loop IV software by Aurisis > > > > the Looperlative > > > > and now, a KAOSS3 pad by Korg (which allows for midi synchronized > > looping and resampling of loops). > > > > > > > > I also have hosted over 200 incredible live looping artists from 12 > > countries at the annual Y2K series Live Looping Festivals and > > seen or heard part or all of their sets > > so I know a thing or two about what's out in the world > > > > So, it is true that if I had to go to a desert Island with only > > one live looping device that I'd take my Looperlative with me. > > > > > > However: > > > > I've seen Andy Butler and Andre Lafosse do mind boggling work with > > their EDPs (that have a less > > than impressive Apple IIC processor in them and are mono). > > > > Genie blow my mind with a Line 6 DL-4 Delay Modeller (activated at > > times with his bare toes!!!!); > > > > Bill Walker impress everyone with his work on an Electrix Repeater > > (and now, an LP-1) > > > > I've seen Kid Beyond do amazing things with a laptop running > > Ableton's Live; > > > > Jeff Kaiser and Krispen Hartung do ridiculously hip things with Max/ > > MSP: > > > > Matthias Grob and Per Boysen tear it up using Plogue Bidule and Mobius > > > > Michael Klobuchar bend heads with a Boomerang > > > > I don't even know what Stan Card or Ted Killian > > use...................they just fucking tear it up , live!!! > > > > ****************** > > So, constant obsession and endless bickering on this list over > > the years about 'what's the best live looping device' always leaves > > me bewildered. > > > > It's no more a helpful discussion than asking, "who's the best > > live looper". > > > > These things are instruments and , in that sense. > > > > The real question is: > > > > How do we use our respective live looping devices creatively > > and, even more importantly, > > > > what's the music like that we create. > > > > respectfully, Rick Walker aka looppool > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 23:02:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C33073BED3; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:02:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=lUA/o/wl/OTEQLinQV1j2WjB6JuJurUk6eAm1V1PayijCEdx5Iok6iQILxvcpkiR9mac3+L8yq9BFFGURzd3xHaqEJrnjKeqSOzRIkeOkmixr+cMY969MGrKjf0wFFwn22Vw4EUMoAZCYFBzVkh0ud2vZi33HlRYfR2uZ/xbK38= ; X-YMail-OSG: DWNySdcVM1mMQeIXfL.X.dELJAOM5pEPDkhDEHujyYwaATovfNpQLlX.G850sFOQwIaSxkEImeNsZ1Fe_9pWkg7bjNdcp.w5n_vpMtzuL4FECD5n X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120803121524h3c8a25a8hc1f28fe51cef9329@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120803121524h3c8a25a8hc1f28fe51cef9329@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--577539127 Message-Id: From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: slightly OT: amazing musical program (if this video is to be trusted) Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:02:07 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:02:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--577539127 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed My friend who is a pro engineer sent me that - he said he no longer needs artists now! Very scary stuff but the skill needs to be in the user... MS www.mattstevensguitar.com On 12 Mar 2008, at 22:24, Tom Ritchford wrote: > http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=dna > > Allows you to pull individual notes out of chords in digital audio > and move them around. The demo is very ! > > -- > /t --Apple-Mail-3--577539127 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 My friend who is a pro engineer sent me that - he said he no longer = needs artists now! Very scary stuff but the skill needs to be in the = user...

MS

www.mattstevensguitar.com=A0=
On 12 Mar 2008, at 22:24, Tom Ritchford wrote:

http://www.celemon= y.com/cms/index.php?id=3Ddna

Allows you to pull individual = notes out of chords in digital audio and move them around.=A0 The demo = is very !

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= --Apple-Mail-3--577539127-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 12 23:34:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFEA33BEDE; Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <582442.23468.qm@web53001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <582442.23468.qm@web53001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--575608503 Message-Id: <9399FABE-D713-4BCF-9873-FAF1595F6781@mac.com> From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: THE BEST LIVE LOOPING DEVICE Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:34:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:34:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--575608503 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I had a 67' Traded it for a 72 Ford Maverick (yeah yeah, I know), which I promptly totaled. On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Stephen Scott wrote: > I was once the proud owner of a beautiful 1963 SG special, without > doubt the best guitar I ever owned. Really slim fast neck, it felt > and played just right, great sound, despite the fact that a > previous owner had replaced the bridge P90 with a humbucker. I've > always regretted selling it. > > Stephen > http://www.myspace.com/sylvianfisher > > Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > Rick Walker, > who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les Paul or a > Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with him. > > I am so in agreement with you here. The SG is THE one guitar to > rule them all. Wish I had one (with a nice Bigsby trem). Sigh. > > Kevin > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to > have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! > Search. --Apple-Mail-1--575608503 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had a 67' Traded it for a 72 Ford Maverick (yeah yeah, I know), which = I promptly totaled.
On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Stephen = Scott wrote:

I was once the proud owner of a beautiful 1963 SG special, = without doubt the best guitar I ever owned.=A0 Really slim fast neck, it = felt and played just right, great sound, despite the fact that a = previous owner had replaced the bridge P90 with a humbucker.=A0 I've = always regretted selling it.

Stephen
http://www.myspace.com/sylvi= anfisher

Kevin Cheli-Colando = <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote:

Rick = Walker,
who thinks a Gibson SG is far, far sexier looking than a Les = Paul or a
Fender Stratocaster but can't get anyone to agree with = him.

I am so in agreement with you here.=A0 The SG = is THE one guitar to rule them all.=A0 Wish I had one (with a nice = Bigsby trem).=A0 Sigh.

Kevin

-- =

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to = have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of = all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and = Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org =


Looking for last = minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! = Search.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 00:00:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBA4D3BEE2; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 951 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:00:50 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Dauria Subject: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:44:57 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 6e2084437afe00551aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79b22fdc65670632aeb408496a366d6f3c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 70.22.186.227 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:00:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, I have been informed by Peter and Kris and Condor Electronics that Condor is not legally permitted to provide the Electrix Repeater version 2 software for sale or free. If anyone has version 2.1.04 of the Repeater software and may be able to help me out, please contact me at tcdauria@rdpowerjobs.com Thank you, Tom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 00:43:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44AD93BEDF; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:43:21 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b88f39ad-ec0f-4e55-b21b-007a5404adb5_" X-Originating-IP: [24.217.132.75] From: J Johans To: Subject: RE: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:38:20 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> References: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2008 00:38:21.0070 (UTC) FILETIME=[89C02AE0:01C884A2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:43:22 +0000 (UTC) --_b88f39ad-ec0f-4e55-b21b-007a5404adb5_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how do you tell if its 2.1 or 2.1.04? it says 2.10 on load up> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> From: TCD= auria@RDPowerjobs.Com> Subject: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software?> Date: W= ed, 12 Mar 2008 19:44:57 -0400> > > Hi everyone,> > I have been informed by= Peter and Kris and Condor Electronics that > Condor is not legally permitt= ed to provide the Electrix Repeater > version 2 software for sale or free.>= > If anyone has version 2.1.04 of the Repeater software and may be able > = to help me out, please contact me at tcdauria@rdpowerjobs.com> > > Thank yo= u,> Tom> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=3DTXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_0120= 08= --_b88f39ad-ec0f-4e55-b21b-007a5404adb5_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable how do you tell if its 2.1 or 2.1.04?
it says 2.10 on load up

> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=
> From: TCDauria@RDPowerjobs.Com
> Subject: Electrix Repeater = 2.1.04 Software?
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:44:57 -0400
>
= >
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have been informed by Peter a= nd Kris and Condor Electronics that
> Condor is not legally permitte= d to provide the Electrix Repeater
> version 2 software for sale or = free.
>
> If anyone has version 2.1.04 of the Repeater softwar= e and may be able
> to help me out, please contact me at tcdauria@rd= powerjobs.com
>
>
> Thank you,
> Tom
>
= >
>
>


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 03:31:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A28563BEE4; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5225 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:31:41 UTC Message-Id: <66CA39E9-03A3-4A60-8291-32BB237F55C3@baymoon.com> From: Mark Hamburg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <007e01c8848e$9c876300$0200a8c0@LeeLeeRoddy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: New gear: Roland Slicer (twin) pedal X-Priority: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:04:34 -0700 References: <512126.97298.qm@web33106.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <84A3752A-3937-495D-AA1B-CAE92D7F0CFB@mac.com> <007e01c8848e$9c876300$0200a8c0@LeeLeeRoddy> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:31:41 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 12, 2008, at 3:15 PM, wrote: > The new Roland Slicer reminds me of a more logical version of the > Adrennalinn...Rod They even say "Instant Audio Adrenaline" on the page. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 04:38:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AF903BED9; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:38:18 UTC From: "dave eichenberger" To: Subject: New Line6 Looper? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:33:07 -0400 Message-ID: <012401c884c3$57234ec0$0569ec40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AciEw1PwSBw6wjBxRyyCEJN2OGBZHg== Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: BIeE B2Wf CsjF EWbT FAig FUJq GBWB GPQo Hzv/ IL5h Impq JL99 Kgxt LJhB LnJn MMVS;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{EB0823BC-43B2-4AB8-8C65-8EBFC950DA98};ZABhAHYAZQBAAGQAYQB2AGUAZQBpAGMAaABlAG4AYgBlAHIAZwBlAHIALgBjAG8AbQA=;Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:33:04 GMT;TgBlAHcAIABMAGkAbgBlADYAIABMAG8AbwBwAGUAcgA/AA== x-cr-puzzleid: {EB0823BC-43B2-4AB8-8C65-8EBFC950DA98} X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+mnLjAHWonZHX+iISLOwJBX/7uO0ShHejG9+1 roFVEE0OzvDq6G6PjGOqXajzTnwnjvMOukPiP395f/38ctpvQ/ gK2OmlhK++DJckkyec3I9uLnL3FaPwdJHeMyWzlGR0= Resent-Message-ID: <_ABKrD.A.9lC.6-K2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Looks to be more of an all-in-one solution for the jam-along kind of looping, with added amp and effect modeling. They lose points for a lack of exp pedal control. Don't know if it has feedback control or not. http://line6.com/jm4looper/ dave eichenberger: www.daveeichenberger.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 05:19:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD4063BEE7; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lSBFULBtCU+VIwKc53DaSOlhJrBYaoggSaPQUX0jdXs=; b=eb2dh3ga4O/7VktoymbUy5K7V0Q7X0oVQAmVJr4fSmDOSOqH8Ibh/Nky7Fpvb+YT9cMgSGne3uVUC9W/Vf3BvQDWhGbNoLP1Lol6jY4KoAPFEt7tlrU44G4ROzx4guFMDO6LwdZ5DKTG0whVHkGdUpjDIUmo6JM+0PTC3OLJ3o8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=wMPaPlkBb+RaUd+VwCzJMM6vU3txgZHpCyj5tno01IUGXh0JmvWBkoFr00YoAf0Xms8fOb+WXfV6y33PryeTVrF23p12JSeseUWhyneHZadAV++dAbkyQ5xrqMqgDtw5mm1Jd6Y8yda0Z6BJDKoHxUcC+LhB0TSHCNl09Q4Bu8o= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:19:52 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Line6 Looper? In-Reply-To: <012401c884c3$57234ec0$0569ec40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3923_12333520.1205385593003" References: <012401c884c3$57234ec0$0569ec40$@com> Resent-Message-ID: <4dxg2.A.FRE.6lL2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:19:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3923_12333520.1205385593003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Geez, they're supposed to wait until the Rang III comes out, and then rip it off at half the price. Obviously their marketing research department is slipping. TH On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 PM, dave eichenberger < dave@daveeichenberger.com> wrote: > Looks to be more of an all-in-one solution for the jam-along kind of > looping, with added amp and effect modeling. They lose points for a lack > of > exp pedal control. Don't know if it has feedback control or not. > http://line6.com/jm4looper/ > > > > > ------=_Part_3923_12333520.1205385593003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Geez, they're supposed to wait until the Rang III comes out, and then rip it off at half the price. 
Obviously their marketing research department is slipping.

TH

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 PM, dave eichenberger <dave@daveeichenberger.com> wrote:
Looks to be more of an all-in-one solution for the jam-along kind of
looping, with added amp and effect modeling. They lose points for a lack of
exp pedal control. Don't know if it has feedback control or not.
http://line6.com/jm4looper/





------=_Part_3923_12333520.1205385593003-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 05:28:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C71B93BEDD; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "dave eichenberger" To: References: <012401c884c3$57234ec0$0569ec40$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: New Line6 Looper? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:28:24 -0400 Message-ID: <013401c884cb$100eebe0$302cc3a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0135_01C884A9.88FD4BE0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AciEyeGzPbxsG79BRsqhCzkXfVgylwAAOrWQ Content-Language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18VusW+vzCd0TyyPpzhvnrXgTN69uml5dA/YG5 tJEO+qz9+KnzXd1kWSN3f79IGbOb5gwc2PrLn5AGxvjpIPwPsR K5msE8jkBTz5bDXBirDg2IQcG5a/+jf0+puQEDPKBw= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:28:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C884A9.88FD4BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another one too, which looks like it contains a 28 second DL4-style looper. This does have exp pedal inputs, presumably mappable to the loop volume, like the DL4. No mention of feedback control, but there seems to be a lot of noises in this box. Here: http://line6.com/stompboxmodelers/index.html dave eichenberger: www.daveeichenberger.com From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:20 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Line6 Looper? Geez, they're supposed to wait until the Rang III comes out, and then rip it off at half the price. Obviously their marketing research department is slipping. TH On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 PM, dave eichenberger wrote: Looks to be more of an all-in-one solution for the jam-along kind of looping, with added amp and effect modeling. They lose points for a lack of exp pedal control. Don't know if it has feedback control or not. http://line6.com/jm4looper/ ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C884A9.88FD4BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Another one too, which looks like it contains a 28 second DL4-style looper. This does have exp pedal inputs, presumably mappable = to the loop volume, like the DL4. No mention of feedback control, but there = seems to be a lot of noises in this box. Here: http://line6.com/st= ompboxmodelers/index.html

 

 

dave eichenberger:  

www.daveeichenberger.com

 

From:= Travis = Hartnett [mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:20 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: New Line6 Looper?

 

Geez, they're = supposed to wait until the Rang III comes out, and then rip it off at half the = price. 
Obviously their marketing research department is slipping.

TH

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 PM, dave eichenberger = <dave@daveeichenberger.com&g= t; wrote:

Looks to be more of = an all-in-one solution for the jam-along kind of
looping, with added amp and effect modeling. They lose points for a lack = of
exp pedal control. Don't know if it has feedback control or not.
http://line6.com/jm4looper/



 

------=_NextPart_000_0135_01C884A9.88FD4BE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 05:53:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EF313BEEC; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ykrBFEnFh8kQNc45COkA:9 a=qE1ItrfY9ZhBxXqpalAAjLdnz6AA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=1VH6yqJrj_UA:10 a=-J7O1cXEfA4A:10 a=DPdd6oeZAAAA:8 a=lI59Ww0ggZxbhTfcx-EA:9 a=dW_qOeB7Y3k9UNfS8QEA:7 a=FLVJ06EkodRQtvE6etkT9WiRL1gA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--552837650 Message-Id: <488FDBB1-EBF1-4CEA-8271-A61146992CA6@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:53:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:53:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--552837650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed but WHY? if they are not even selling it from their website? if repeater is gone for good the software needs to be open source...so users left in the lurch can mod it. On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:38 PM, J Johans wrote: > how do you tell if its 2.1 or 2.1.04? > it says 2.10 on load up > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > From: TCDauria@RDPowerjobs.Com > > Subject: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? > > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:44:57 -0400 > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I have been informed by Peter and Kris and Condor Electronics that > > Condor is not legally permitted to provide the Electrix Repeater > > version 2 software for sale or free. > > > > If anyone has version 2.1.04 of the Repeater software and may be > able > > to help me out, please contact me at tcdauria@rdpowerjobs.com > > > > > > Thank you, > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! --Apple-Mail-1--552837650 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 but WHY? if they are not even selling it from their website?

if repeater is gone for = good the software needs to be open source...so users left in the lurch = can mod it.


On Mar 12, = 2008, at 5:38 PM, J Johans wrote:

how do you tell if its 2.1 or = 2.1.04?
it says 2.10 on load up

> To: Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com
> From: TCDauria@RDPowerjobs.Com
&= gt; Subject: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software?
> Date: Wed, 12 = Mar 2008 19:44:57 -0400
>=A0
>=A0
> Hi = everyone,
>=A0
> = I have been informed by Peter and Kris and Condor Electronics that=A0
> Condor is not legally = permitted to provide the Electrix Repeater=A0
> version 2 software = for sale or free.
>=A0
> If anyone has version = 2.1.04 of the Repeater software and may be able=A0
> to help me out, = please contact me at tcdauria@rdpowerjobs.com
&= gt;=A0
>=A0
> Thank you,
> = Tom
>=A0
>=A0
>=A0
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Connect and = share in new ways with Windows Live.=A0Get it = now!

= --Apple-Mail-1--552837650-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 06:14:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34C7C3BEBA; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uWE0xrSR/wztrW7Y/M/eGT/xcmcABQ/e5ptTIiN8/Es=; b=KSlkFfO/DdYrm1RmaGLVPPENGdypxwITZLEaDnX2IRevMF4hFccNAh7jBR904t7wN6Q1IiBorutQylN4iu38L+QpFK+QLtWsAq3MCUt0eBVA2lCNi/MfI3MGUiZwDhxn4j2EkWEx7Dn8NDTg8NdFku0NvnMavMLV+xBzAJRXlew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hCXaQKIIvew6jaTI5VSC9JNtqbkAIYXNZyCknGspm2giXArobLZiIk+4UyMepXw+RgUzUS022yK8A2k0SAdxeeTq+Dnw9QUFAQenEheaDfGmktu7Kg9ZygACpH3/nLq9sGS0Gq8bUsfvSKVAw8gmgvmlJlNOqJ35ohEYplsDcqA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:13:59 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? In-Reply-To: <488FDBB1-EBF1-4CEA-8271-A61146992CA6@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4094_62052.1205388839826" References: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> <488FDBB1-EBF1-4CEA-8271-A61146992CA6@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_v79zB.A.9nG.pYM2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:14:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4094_62052.1205388839826 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My guess is that someone didn't get fully paid for the software development yet, so they don't want to give it away at this time. It's worth something, and it cost a lot to develop, so just because the first host company went under doesn't mean that the intellectual property holders want to forfeit everything just yet. Another deal might be in the works, or they might want to retain ownership of concepts therein and utilize them in another project. Imagine you made an album, and the record company went bankrupt after pressing up a few hundred copies. Do you post the album on your website for free, or hold on to the masters and see if you can work out another deal to sell it? TH On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > but WHY? if they are not even selling it from their website? > if repeater is gone for good the software needs to be open source...so > users left in the lurch can mod it. > > > > ------=_Part_4094_62052.1205388839826 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My guess is that someone didn't get fully paid for the software development yet, so they don't want to give it away at this time.  It's worth something, and it cost a lot to develop, so just because the first host company went under doesn't mean that the intellectual property holders want to forfeit everything just yet.  Another deal might be in the works, or they might want to retain ownership of concepts therein and utilize them in another project.

Imagine you made an album, and the record company went bankrupt after pressing up a few hundred copies.  Do you post the album on your website for free, or hold on to the masters and see if you can work out another deal to sell it?

TH

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
but WHY? if they are not even selling it from their website?

if repeater is gone for good the software needs to be open source...so users left in the lurch can mod it.




------=_Part_4094_62052.1205388839826-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 07:15:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C7AF3BEC0; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=44TgxCGfvsSX71MxdqEA:9 a=2CnyroP4koPRhwbuVHbGOBkX1JwA:4 a=NVHxADLwyewA:10 a=w2JVS3UYN8sA:10 a=tTtTRlkOaBpHVLz-dysA:9 a=pVWswTzL6CTX2lCPmHAA:7 a=3dV2QxtKw4qnll-TGXVXEMEF6PgA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> <488FDBB1-EBF1-4CEA-8271-A61146992CA6@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--547946271 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:15:20 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:15:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--547946271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hm, that's interesting, i hadn't considered that there would be software developers who hadn't gotten paid. appalling. i thought the electrix story was done, dead, finis. but really, what would i know, because no one ever says anything! i would just sell the album myself and if that wasn't possible, give it away asap. because if you wait too long, your audience is gone and street cred is worth more than money. the music analogy doesn't totally work for software though. for one, people might use that software to make a living. leaving your users in the lurch is bad, but they get over it and move on. wooing your users back with new promises, and then leaving them in the lurch again...that is much worse, and might make those normally placid users, er, quite angry. but ok, good point, i won't be the one to post the upgrade to pirate bay! On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > My guess is that someone didn't get fully paid for the software > development yet, so they don't want to give it away at this time. > It's worth something, and it cost a lot to develop, so just because > the first host company went under doesn't mean that the > intellectual property holders want to forfeit everything just yet. > Another deal might be in the works, or they might want to retain > ownership of concepts therein and utilize them in another project. > > Imagine you made an album, and the record company went bankrupt > after pressing up a few hundred copies. Do you post the album on > your website for free, or hold on to the masters and see if you can > work out another deal to sell it? > > TH > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:53 PM, info at zoekeating > wrote: > but WHY? if they are not even selling it from their website? > > if repeater is gone for good the software needs to be open > source...so users left in the lurch can mod it. > > > > --Apple-Mail-2--547946271 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 hm, that's interesting, i hadn't considered that there would be software = developers who hadn't gotten paid. appalling. i thought the electrix = story was done, dead, finis. but really, what would i know, because no = one ever says anything!=A0

i would just sell the = album myself and if that wasn't possible, give it away asap. because if = you wait too long, your audience is gone and street cred is worth more = than money.=A0

the music analogy doesn't = totally work for software though. for one, people might use that = software to make a living. leaving your users in the lurch is bad, but = they get over it and move on. wooing your users back with new promises, = and then leaving them in the lurch again...that is much worse, and might = make those normally placid users, er, quite angry.

but ok, good point, i = won't be the one to post the upgrade to pirate = bay!



On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:13 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote:

My guess = is that someone didn't get fully paid for the software development yet, = so they don't want to give it away at this time.=A0 It's worth = something, and it cost a lot to develop, so just because the first host = company went under doesn't mean that the intellectual property holders = want to forfeit everything just yet.=A0 Another deal might be in the = works, or they might want to retain ownership of concepts therein and = utilize them in another project.

Imagine you made an album, and = the record company went bankrupt after pressing up a few hundred = copies.=A0 Do you post the album on your website for free, or hold on to = the masters and see if you can work out another deal to sell it?
=
TH

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:53 = PM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> = wrote:
but WHY? if they are not even selling it from = their website?

if repeater is gone for good the = software needs to be open source...so users left in the lurch can mod = it.
=




= --Apple-Mail-2--547946271-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 07:23:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28F173BEDB; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=uI+dssRmgT7n1cCl1oOc5c32tw8ZEQ51rrm1pPilMwIPRzp6gFGxu+htuNKuotmZflI64lAz4NkOp/IdEcH1hR7QqoapcXoUR0cm6OS45VkG4fkQizNFx2axeHSu6KG0ETRPvhJ9HHF+Mntu/47XjWImWWONTeZWArRvAx6IuvM= ; X-YMail-OSG: s_O4WnwVM1ksZQXm1Pq0QRUeRcgQo1rOHTQN7eC6VHIOKKygKw8GTxqDUIdKzskaRp9A_kNZpNK5lVCpGpED0v9T5lA204juU4iPlU9k_sNqftiY X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <013401c884cb$100eebe0$302cc3a0$@com> References: <012401c884c3$57234ec0$0569ec40$@com> <013401c884cb$100eebe0$302cc3a0$@com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--547466639 Message-Id: <9F213BB5-CCC3-4C0C-A5A2-1DADDB8BCEAC@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: New Line6 Looper? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:23:19 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:23:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--547466639 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Also there is no loop once feature like the third pedal on the DL4 which I use all the time MS www.mattstevensguitar.com On 13 Mar 2008, at 05:28, dave eichenberger wrote: > Another one too, which looks like it contains a 28 second DL4-style > looper. This does have exp pedal inputs, presumably mappable to the > loop volume, like the DL4. No mention of feedback control, but > there seems to be a lot of noises in this box. Here: http:// > line6.com/stompboxmodelers/index.html > > > dave eichenberger: > www.daveeichenberger.com > > From: Travis Hartnett [mailto:travishartnett@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 1:20 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: New Line6 Looper? > > Geez, they're supposed to wait until the Rang III comes out, and > then rip it off at half the price. > Obviously their marketing research department is slipping. > > TH > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 PM, dave eichenberger > wrote: > Looks to be more of an all-in-one solution for the jam-along kind of > looping, with added amp and effect modeling. They lose points for a > lack of > exp pedal control. Don't know if it has feedback control or not. > http://line6.com/jm4looper/ > > > > --Apple-Mail-4--547466639 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Also there is no loop once feature like the third pedal on the DL4 which = I use all the time

MS
www.mattstevens= guitar.com

On 13 Mar 2008, at 05:28, dave = eichenberger wrote:

Another one too, which looks like = it contains a 28 second DL4-style looper. This does have exp pedal = inputs, presumably mappable to the loop volume, like the DL4. No mention = of feedback control, but there seems to be a lot of noises in this box. = Here:=A0=A0
=A0
Geez, they're supposed to wait until the Rang III comes = out, and then rip it off at half the price.=A0=A0
Obviously their marketing = research department is slipping.

TH
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:33 PM, dave eichenberger = <dave@daveeichenberger.com> = wrote:
Looks to be more of an all-in-one solution = for the jam-along kind of
looping, with added amp and effect = modeling. They lose points for a lack of
exp pedal control. Don't = know if it has feedback control or not.



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 14:09:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DBC03BE86; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <49779673-1BAB-4455-BA53-DBF104EFA669@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:09:51 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: <4D_bcC.A.CCH.zWT2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:09:55 +0000 (UTC) Am I missing something here? The echoplex by itself is listed here at $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this...... http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497 Does not appear to be scratch and dent. John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 14:18:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 499BC3BE85; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:18:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=YO5zU020V9FsX/PPFJYd0Un23s5K94AD3JhoeclYuAQ=; b=jXfvne6OPKSbRK1o2+tDogFUptv6w+NsBcKbRqEhZM7smSyB1L+ioZfaL23ER2mU7KLh2h/BInIO8VcEdBRamRdxYoub5ut79ZUNtQx6wCdUvuxyqLADwPshZAiHxcLXFOtuzW8yp9J7j2KrNicW9u6E/yZOiTrVzB8lyqcX5wE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aoFuk7FVUK24ZjBKIX6vHyFzJb4DI0+PqOnY/rJl1lZWPyhQhOJjshNb1V0b3K0BdqvuwsGYjPzHF1bQ3Dxv2B9lhaBL6H96tVn1YHgnooWDa56jPvardrjd2XF/ly4gSXLfNeFJSPkxWe6RFGcb67QB9xnQrN0DKklvEHt85YM= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:17:55 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: <49779673-1BAB-4455-BA53-DBF104EFA669@johnfloridis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6163_22299796.1205417875736" References: <49779673-1BAB-4455-BA53-DBF104EFA669@johnfloridis.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:18:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6163_22299796.1205417875736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Time to resurrect the "EDP has been discontinued???" thread, a decade-long favorite at Looper's Delight. I'd also like to point out that Matthias recently mentioned that he was doing coding work on Loop again. New hardware host? Software EDP? Enquiring loopers want to know. TH On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 7:09 AM, john floridis wrote: > Am I missing something here? The echoplex by itself is listed here at > $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this...... > > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497 > > Does not appear to be scratch and dent. > > ------=_Part_6163_22299796.1205417875736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Time to resurrect the "EDP has been discontinued???" thread, a decade-long favorite at Looper's Delight.

I'd also like to point out that Matthias recently mentioned that he was doing coding work on Loop again.  New hardware host?  Software EDP?  Enquiring loopers want to know.

TH

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 7:09 AM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
Am I missing something here?  The echoplex by itself is listed here at
$999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this......


http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497

Does not appear to be scratch and dent.


------=_Part_6163_22299796.1205417875736-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 14:19:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 025EF3BE93; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:19:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 329 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:19:46 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=v846x1tVaEkA:10 a=H4DW960rBmu0zTT3Dxin6A==:17 a=eaBzbYtBAAAA:8 a=TY-btpfdAAAA:8 a=f5VEZYbV3_v-5L3-N64A:9 a=OCg7XJydchYmnvU-gxTv_HtZFr4A:4 a=lu1bFh1h9rAA:10 a=JqzK7hVu6n4A:10 From: cburke55@comcast.net (Christophe) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:14:12 +0000 Message-Id: <031320081414.806.47D936B4000BD6B1000003262215575474CACA0A059D9A0D0C@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: Y2J1cmtlNTVAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:19:46 +0000 (UTC) It's for real! :-) Expecting mine to show up tomorrow. Music 123 has the same deal, btw. http://www.music123.com/Gibson-TGE-05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE-04-Footswitch-150497-i1389137.Music123 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: john floridis > Am I missing something here? The echoplex by itself is listed here at > $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this...... > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-an > d-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497 > > Does not appear to be scratch and dent. > > John > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 14:51:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DB213BE89; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <488FDBB1-EBF1-4CEA-8271-A61146992CA6@zoekeating.com> References: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> <488FDBB1-EBF1-4CEA-8271-A61146992CA6@zoekeating.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:48:45 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1006702598==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b5711209d06d9e16efbe0742a63404d5ba9e20737dd9b26b7f14f54350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.58 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:51:44 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1006702598==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Open source is a great idea.... does anybody know the details of the Electrix remains? Chapter 11? Worse? >but WHY? if they are not even selling it from their website? > >if repeater is gone for good the software needs to be open >source...so users left in the lurch can mod it. > > >On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:38 PM, J Johans wrote: > >>how do you tell if its 2.1 or 2.1.04? >>it says 2.10 on load up >> >>> To: >>>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> From: TCDauria@RDPowerjobs.Com >>> Subject: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? >>> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:44:57 -0400 >>> >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I have been informed by Peter and Kris and Condor Electronics that >>> Condor is not legally permitted to provide the Electrix Repeater >>> version 2 software for sale or free. >>> >>> If anyone has version 2.1.04 of the Repeater software and may be able >>> to help me out, please contact me at >>>tcdauria@rdpowerjobs.com >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>Connect and share in new ways with Windows >>Live. Get >>it now! -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1006702598==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software?
Open source is a great idea.... does anybody know the details of the Electrix remains?  Chapter 11? Worse?


but WHY? if they are not even selling it from their website?

if repeater is gone for good the software needs to be open source...so users left in the lurch can mod it.


On Mar 12, 2008, at 5:38 PM, J Johans wrote:

how do you tell if its 2.1 or 2.1.04?
it says 2.10 on load up

> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> From: TCDauria@RDPowerjobs.Com
> Subject: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software?
> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:44:57 -0400
> 
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have been informed by Peter and Kris and Condor Electronics that 
> Condor is not legally permitted to provide the Electrix Repeater 
> version 2 software for sale or free.
> 
> If anyone has version 2.1.04 of the Repeater software and may be able 
> to help me out, please contact me at tcdauria@rdpowerjobs.com
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> 
Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now!


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--============_-1006702598==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 14:55:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 062D73BE93; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <49779673-1BAB-4455-BA53-DBF104EFA669@johnfloridis.com> References: <49779673-1BAB-4455-BA53-DBF104EFA669@johnfloridis.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:35:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <9ZiGvB.A.0JB.EBU2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) It might help to notice the LIMITED QUANTITY icon next to it. They are probably "blowing them out" and once they're gone, will not likely carry them again. This is very typical MF behavior - I know, I used to work for 'em. On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:09 AM, john floridis wrote: > Am I missing something here? The echoplex by itself is listed here at > $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this...... > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital- > Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497 > > Does not appear to be scratch and dent. > > John > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 15:03:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 333913BEA6; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:thread-index:X-MimeOLE; b=0ZRT0rS/JU13EwEIysut+R56W9NkzRpQ/sM4I+zKMLqqXnp8xcZdc++dF4Uw8l0wVQkwlmQuIgqeOqSIqibJxq/2yx3A0DgLV/tBNYZEBGE4y5dAOfJoturSlT9Qw9RYJw9AGcHSZ6EUVoVIIv0B6mBcqbAevSYfRJGs5MVHJcU= ; X-YMail-OSG: PdBrM1kVM1n3fykTYdjDtnUmcpvOb1NzEW0eTpQHZ6ZgBexbHEPMjRXPFdLPi8h12sGs.D6cUxzi1mBG16V.CUyXsWRNeVBVRnsST5Xweaz2f2Eh X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Andy Ewen" To: Subject: RE: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:03:03 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: thread-index: AciFGkj5mDnBhiJRT9OCyqEIIN2D0AAAOV+Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Message-Id: <20080313150310.B35F33BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Knowing what we charge Gibson for production of the EDP & = Footcontroller, someone is making a loss selling at this price! -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]=20 Sent: 13 March 2008 14:36 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend It might help to notice the LIMITED QUANTITY icon next to it. They are probably "blowing them out" and once they're gone, will not =20 likely carry them again. This is very typical MF behavior - I know, I used to work for 'em. On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:09 AM, john floridis wrote: > Am I missing something here? The echoplex by itself is listed here at = =20 > $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this...... > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-=20 > Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=3D150497 > > Does not appear to be scratch and dent. > > John > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: = 11/03/2008 13:41 =20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: = 11/03/2008 13:41 =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 16:20:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E25123BE8E; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:20:15 -0500 Subject: RE: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? Thread-Topic: Electrix Repeater 2.1.04 Software? Thread-Index: AciE2gQQO3Jr7qx5QrCuSHSMVEqtFwARrU/Q Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE71440794AB4D3@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <85D03E37-B370-41A9-B46F-EBF30179B3F5@RDPowerjobs.Com> <488FDBB1-EBF1-4CEA-8271-A61146992CA6@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:20:19 +0000 (UTC) Corporations usually cannot just declare game over and walk away. If there are any creditors at all (investors, employees, the phone company, Office Depot, that empty booth at NAMM) they have to go through the bankruptcy process. Any remaining assets have to be sold in an approved manner, the proceeds are typically held in escrow for awhile in case any other creditors show up, and finally the creditors are paid a fraction of what they are owed. Since there are now lawyers involved decisions can be contested. I would imagine one of the assets they are selling is the Repeater software but placing a value on software can be difficult. How many potential buyers would there be over how many years? It's possible there is disagreement over how much it is worth or who should own it. Maybe the person that originally made the deal with Condor wasn't really authorized to do that. This is all speculation of course, but it sounds like there are some messy legal details they need to work out before we'll see the software again. It could be months. I know there will be a temptation to pirate the software but as a software developer myself I would ask that we wait for awhile and see what happens. Having said that, the communication from this company is absolutely pathetic so part of me thinks they deserve to lose. But please give it a few months, the software is out there and will always be available. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 17:54:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80E163BE8B; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:54:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Ls4YolumSz9NOCd5W1BrBhqP0eAa18xsvsTsltCpyx4=; b=FJiUngIWTCxAwCsacooPFLVZxqzpz2wrXHBiVqH4mf+TRUPzzahHDL7W07NJy61jD2JMnon1cx2owWL4VBMp6pplGq2LlSqoV7pwJZU+0j6vmXx8LYDKfHhIOoc0qhOm3u/ZYesE7iY97haH3ptfR8TPHCrfbSiOI7J83f20HPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qK5sm7XUpda2kJdnK0lkX6+xegkT/ijGwKgxiOB8pylsiaXx08yfdJL3HAX/7H9eVKPuYOJpxwL9Q4oSRd/uMySIdYCU/nndG0ajuy5sM9B9jFTvRICiAJGf6SLaInOneQ/NsfiQ7IavtBcX9lqNjq1MJMERU0hduXD/xZJ9kzk= Message-ID: <3fa302e30803131054t228f8e47h4345c2654f50dfd4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:54:25 -0700 From: Mikkoz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Line6 Looper? In-Reply-To: <9F213BB5-CCC3-4C0C-A5A2-1DADDB8BCEAC@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12278_14873765.1205430865495" References: <012401c884c3$57234ec0$0569ec40$@com> <013401c884cb$100eebe0$302cc3a0$@com> <9F213BB5-CCC3-4C0C-A5A2-1DADDB8BCEAC@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:54:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12278_14873765.1205430865495 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They say that it has all the features of the DL4 in the faq. Hopefully that's the story. I wonder what the price will be? Looks awesome for my needs! -Miko On 3/13/08, Matt Stevens wrote: > > Also there is no loop once feature like the third pedal on the DL4 which I > use all the time > ------=_Part_12278_14873765.1205430865495 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They say that it has all the features of the DL4 in the faq.  Hopefully that's the story.  I wonder what the price will be?  Looks awesome for my needs!  -Miko

On 3/13/08, Matt Stevens <mattstevensguitar@btinternet.com> wrote:
Also there is no loop once feature like the third pedal on the DL4 which I use all the time
------=_Part_12278_14873765.1205430865495-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 18:50:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEFD03BE7C; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:50:44 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=OkktIxU8S6OYEPfaK8diA9xBa6FoqRgsJbzYQ3EtNl7SfMy91SI0qafoL4zHVUfS0CqO4RW1bhp2voPp5DPIkRSpfFeaUA5IS6GQGk3rEYfgHHlzDU2/jqx6bz+xzKt3o2JoN62Ui+vA3jFvW3aGom4vQihpsqlwmhHrW1IzF9w=; X-YMail-OSG: zY0FFDQVM1nA1ArfhT8s3NcP71oPzSQWXYHUOX5pADKJtHU0PIm_OnK2vtWPGzyPaMLRVaNfgWsR61SFAExsJc.MFvvZcRXxmBbBXw01mFWOuY8eqWXAOXtGceDcGtCX Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: richard gryffin Subject: RE: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080313150310.B35F33BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1844173157-1205433843=:60569" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <561013.60569.qm@web63514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:50:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-1844173157-1205433843=:60569 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit and guitar center has the same deal....i bought my second EDP at that price ....they showed them in stock but were regionally out of stock and said they would have to order one.... musicians friend when i checked with them had sold out and would not honor the price any longer but guitar center said they would....so i wait and wonder....will see if they come through wit it ....but the burning question is .....is it being discontinued? i love mine and am committed to it (them) until they die.... Andy Ewen wrote: Knowing what we charge Gibson for production of the EDP & Footcontroller, someone is making a loss selling at this price! -----Original Message----- From: tEd ® KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: 13 March 2008 14:36 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend It might help to notice the LIMITED QUANTITY icon next to it. They are probably "blowing them out" and once they're gone, will not likely carry them again. This is very typical MF behavior - I know, I used to work for 'em. On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:09 AM, john floridis wrote: > Am I missing something here? The echoplex by itself is listed here at > $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this...... > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital- > Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497 > > Does not appear to be scratch and dent. > > John > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 11/03/2008 13:41 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - Release Date: 11/03/2008 13:41 firehawks --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --0-1844173157-1205433843=:60569 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit and guitar center has the same deal....i bought my second EDP at that price ....they showed them in stock but were regionally out of stock and said they would have to order one.... musicians friend when i checked with them had sold out and would not honor the price any longer but guitar center said they would....so i wait and wonder....will see if they come through wit it ....but the burning question is .....is it being discontinued?  i love mine and am committed to it (them) until they die.... 

Andy Ewen <andy.ewen@btinternet.com> wrote:
Knowing what we charge Gibson for production of the EDP & Footcontroller,
someone is making a loss selling at this price!


-----Original Message-----
From: tEd ® KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]
Sent: 13 March 2008 14:36
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend

It might help to notice the LIMITED QUANTITY icon next to it.

They are probably "blowing them out" and once they're gone, will not
likely carry them again.

This is very typical MF behavior - I know, I used to work for 'em.

On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:09 AM, john floridis wrote:

> Am I missing something here? The echoplex by itself is listed here at
> $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's this......
>
>
> http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital-
> Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497
>
> Does not appear to be scratch and dent.
>
> John
>

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Try it now. --0-1844173157-1205433843=:60569-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 18:57:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 146D53BE89; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30803131054t228f8e47h4345c2654f50dfd4@mail.gmail.com> References: <012401c884c3$57234ec0$0569ec40$@com> <013401c884cb$100eebe0$302cc3a0$@com> <9F213BB5-CCC3-4C0C-A5A2-1DADDB8BCEAC@btinternet.com> <3fa302e30803131054t228f8e47h4345c2654f50dfd4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: New Line6 Looper? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:57:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <5oYxvD.A.fDC.UkX2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:57:24 +0000 (UTC) No midi, interesting. Its cool that it has effects though. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 18:59:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D5D53BE8E; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:59:36 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=MGk0oEIbY/5qlezj8PjRbpJygrTOj1weGZwQRMYgSCv+qW39AxVeLyFDmoKl6ZkpPHnlQ31A0OScScyajThkHT9qwosZZZwxQ+5EXxaNEQEZPl4EJRd595WvHkzieNkUSI4ncUy1efK9VfcuwWlb74wqPnj/HOrCsjmVrqjXD80=; X-YMail-OSG: ogGKHG0VM1kiQtucJWTbgnefWoZ1BAxmAqdimaM.RI6Eb_v0SkpBVZTnuVA74jAGejceReE8o7ebummayvEr.lHEauxhbmpE6q7Cj96eAVHC1hH6sv8- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:52:55 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: RE: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <561013.60569.qm@web63514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <775636.37546.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 18:59:38 +0000 (UTC) I don't think there is any doubt it has been discontinued. If you are committed to the unit, I would pick up a spare now. --- richard gryffin wrote: > and guitar center has the same deal....i bought my > second EDP at that price ....they showed them in > stock but were regionally out of stock and said they > would have to order one.... musicians friend when i > checked with them had sold out and would not honor > the price any longer but guitar center said they > would....so i wait and wonder....will see if they > come through wit it ....but the burning question is > .....is it being discontinued? i love mine and am > committed to it (them) until they die.... > > Andy Ewen wrote: Knowing > what we charge Gibson for production of the EDP & > Footcontroller, > someone is making a loss selling at this price! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tEd ® KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] > Sent: 13 March 2008 14:36 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend > > It might help to notice the LIMITED QUANTITY icon > next to it. > > They are probably "blowing them out" and once > they're gone, will not > likely carry them again. > > This is very typical MF behavior - I know, I used to > work for 'em. > > On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:09 AM, john floridis wrote: > > > Am I missing something here? The echoplex by > itself is listed here at > > $999 and the footpedal for $125, then there's > this...... > > > > > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-TGE05-Echoplex-Digital- > > > Pro-Plus-and-TGE04-Footswitch-?sku=150497 > > > > Does not appear to be scratch and dent. > > > > John > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - > Release Date: 11/03/2008 > 13:41 > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1325 - > Release Date: 11/03/2008 > 13:41 > > > > > > firehawks > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 19:03:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 185CE3BE97; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <775636.37546.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:03:37 -0600 References: <775636.37546.qm@web50312.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Just off the phone with Musician's Friend, and they said they had been sold out, but they got some in in late February and they are currently in stock. She also said they were not being discontinued. For what it's worth....... I was actually hoping maybe there was some deal for the pedal by itself (I already have the behrringer pedal), but no, the deal is if you get them together. Two cents... John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 19:28:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5B8A93BE91; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61360.167.83.10.20.1205436510.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <561013.60569.qm@web63514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <561013.60569.qm@web63514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:28:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <6SiqCB.A.jUD.nBY2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Knowing what's in the echoplex and especially the pedal board, I don't see how anyone is losing money, but they're definitely not making what they could on it. The pedal board especially is less than $10 in materials using retail parts and manufacturing of the device is simple. The fact that it sells for over $100 is nothing short of amazing. ~peace~ Plish > > Andy Ewen wrote: Knowing what we charge Gibson > for production of the EDP & Footcontroller, > someone is making a loss selling at this price! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 19:37:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9241C3BE8C; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authentication-Warning: webmail-0.hosting.atlantic.net: apache set sender to music@carlsonarts.com using -f X-IMP-User: music@carlsonarts.com Message-ID: <20080313153711.d7z06ksqo04ocwkk@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:37:11 -0400 From: music@carlsonarts.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electro Harmonix 2880 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:37:16 +0000 (UTC) Hey, does anybody use this? I haven't heard anyone talking about it as of yet, but I've only been on the list for a week or so. If you use it, is it any good? Can it really do multi-track looping in live performance fairly easily? What's it sound like? Michael C. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 19:44:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F31BB3BEA9; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:44:03 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bY4JM9NpcGu4M8D2X4Ls9J7RB86PlAFCQHIe+SvI+2WkGOdW/Z/gg+n40j6ypV66KoQhgeoeWE0n4T+QBt1V0TfnVnR+jSdUj7R6GDShWO/5qelYMESSSwD/O2jZkepI2XnqOSqz/DCa0YgJNt3VRs40sFFiwwrGIhvrakRAAwg=; X-YMail-OSG: LPQbq1EVM1kDNV_BNMFv0ywbHBTq92ueULhxOF8aZN5j3lp1hf42k9_kiW_boCaPZgbHFejZiSt2W9Mp6TnnhSk.haxYg5vJ_J34dLtJjPBgjEu4x3w- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:37:22 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:44:03 +0000 (UTC) Check out the Aurisis website news section: http://www.aurisis.com/news/news.html The say that manufacturing was stopped in November 2007. Whenever retailers like Musician's Friend blows out an item like that, they are typically trying to get rid of remaining inventory on a product that has already been discontinued (although the public may not necessarily be aware it has been discontinued). --- john floridis wrote: > Just off the phone with Musician's Friend, and they > said they had been > sold out, but they got some in in late February and > they are currently > in stock. She also said they were not being > discontinued. For what > it's worth....... > > I was actually hoping maybe there was some deal for > the pedal by > itself (I already have the behrringer pedal), but > no, the deal is if > you get them together. > > Two cents... > > John > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 19:47:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6055D3BEAE; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <509509C2-89CA-4F41-9D28-392392675818@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:47:46 -0600 References: <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8xCPEC.A.nYE.kTY2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:47:48 +0000 (UTC) Ok then, there you go. Very interesting. Thanks John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:04:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 812EC3BEA2; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20080313153711.d7z06ksqo04ocwkk@webmail.carlsonarts.com> References: <20080313153711.d7z06ksqo04ocwkk@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:52:22 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix 2880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:04:10 +0000 (UTC) At 3:37 PM -0400 3/13/08, music@carlsonarts.com wrote: >Hey, does anybody use this? I haven't heard anyone talking about it >as of yet, but I've only been on the list for a week or so. > >If you use it, is it any good? Can it really do multi-track looping >in live performance fairly easily? What's it sound like? I got one and played around with it a little bit before deciding it would be fun in the studio but not much good onstage. No 'undo" function, for one thing. Seems to me the sort of ideas one can develop with this "multitrack" system will require editing out an awful lot of uneventful, erroneous, and/or tedius stf fin between the really cool parts. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:04:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB8CE3BEC0; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authentication-Warning: webmail-0.hosting.atlantic.net: apache set sender to music@carlsonarts.com using -f X-IMP-User: music@carlsonarts.com Message-ID: <20080313160417.iyz8s6fjisskocw0@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:04:17 -0400 From: music@carlsonarts.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Vocal Looping (again) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: <30ka3D.A.aZF.CjY2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Ok, so I'm learning a lot about these loopers, and a new question has come to mind - - For vocal looping, am i better off buying an EDP (or EH 2880), or going for the software route (Ableton live with a laptop). I don't have a lot of $$ to spend, but could get an older version of Ableton with a reg code and fix up an old laptop. Are there any exclusively software loopers on this list? Michael C. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:08:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B578A3BEC7; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:08:12 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=5pDcZLOWNxa+hHxTbwVeuhqsOAAAK0+juprwHXs8x6pFWFZ5SRHsL1lXqY/WTi+nudMMPvCmVh8LUYaz+HzT32FrS9FV6r1mXF3/pNyUOX0nX1kc/HItCQ7JjVcsHEIb8R9dnLsFT4Se4uq1wFKy/yhtSqp793AX5Yeg3BKdvIM=; X-YMail-OSG: a086_3UVM1nV9G.paudEX3svU_w2Y00Gi3.Fz9xyY2sfOB8z.Qa1.JefCgCw3EnaLuPD5BwqupQ0XM0fbO0YYI_m.POWrbcnmY6AoDimujQ.1nm4SvJI66BSW8En2Q-- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:01:32 -0700 (PDT) From: barry smith Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <45273.76822.qm@web30702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I have the older beige pedal for the Echoplex from the Oberheim days.........It is mint......with original box......serial # EFC701490......I'll let it go for $89 including shipping....I'll wait for 3 days for a response, then I'll post it on Ebay. Thanks! Barry --- john floridis wrote: > Just off the phone with Musician's Friend, and they > said they had been > sold out, but they got some in in late February and > they are currently > in stock. She also said they were not being > discontinued. For what > it's worth....... > > I was actually hoping maybe there was some deal for > the pedal by > itself (I already have the behrringer pedal), but > no, the deal is if > you get them together. > > Two cents... > > John > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:11:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A9373BECC; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=3Q2br3M8F1WhqiMHvGBz5Ld53El5br4WL9avA7Jh9SDqBUznMKunBHVr6IfnlxswZnO9ugdlMh5u/FfpS6+CaEmGKJsdy5Y81GjlEN4QOCLZRrYvSqOXp09kgBNS3HW/gUtYFyvi5oHagH47KcY2aBu6VvCf42LSwtSnugbzmn4=; X-YMail-OSG: HbRWvzIVM1nDfcb0A4BPklYesD8GxmWu_2Vphq_yvJ1d7LFQnMr7VOdtMKdI5l2Kbw-- Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:11:02 -0700 (PDT) From: barry smith Subject: Echoplex foot peday for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <463083.29579.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey kids, I have an older Oberheim beige foot pedal for the Echoplex Digital Pro/Pro Plus for sale......mint condition.......with the original box.......serial # EFC701490......$89 including shipping or best offer......I'll wait 3 days and then put it up on Ebay. Thanks! Barry ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:16:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19C4A3BEDF; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008401c88547$47bab610$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <20080313153711.d7z06ksqo04ocwkk@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Subject: Re: Electro Harmonix 2880 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:17:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+HT/m4jrqbQYtr9tc0wA/FLidy2KaYmDEkulF Ix0Omf7ahQl3qkAwkb8zhCJhDjGmos2fPS0ZpLCqtmrlEw8Egu dFlC0NeLzV2T56szeiihdbR+/K0/0pO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:16:01 +0000 (UTC) sounds good. looks good. has four tracks, for looping live you would need the foot control, though. the first loop length determines the length of all loops you record after the initial one. no multiply, neither copying your first loop manually nor playing over multiples of your first loop length. that's a bummer. i love the option of fading things in and out, especially for endings. and pitch shift is funny/funky. smooth looping - tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 8:37 PM Subject: Electro Harmonix 2880 > Hey, does anybody use this? I haven't heard anyone talking about it as > of yet, but I've only been on the list for a week or so. > > If you use it, is it any good? Can it really do multi-track looping in > live performance fairly easily? What's it sound like? > > Michael C. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:20:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83FB73BEDA; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1817 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:20:34 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: 0jq41Z00F07rVmq0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:49:43 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2eWQdB.A.RfG.SyY2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:20:34 +0000 (UTC) Wow - a lot of interesting news there... At 2008.03.13 11:37 AM, George Ludwig wrote: >Check out the Aurisis website news section: > >http://www.aurisis.com/news/news.html > >The say that manufacturing was stopped in November >2007. > >Whenever retailers like Musician's Friend blows out an >item like that, they are typically trying to get rid >of remaining inventory on a product that has already >been discontinued (although the public may not >necessarily be aware it has been discontinued). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:25:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DA083BEF1; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:25:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47D98D97.7030500@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:24:55 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7cgh8B.A.Y3G.e2Y2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:25:02 +0000 (UTC) For sure. How 'bout this tidbit - "Kim has left the company to concentrate only on Loopers-Delight." Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Wow - a lot of interesting news there... > > > At 2008.03.13 11:37 AM, George Ludwig wrote: >> Check out the Aurisis website news section: >> >> http://www.aurisis.com/news/news.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:25:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EA263BEF8; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00a501c88548$a9020300$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <20080313153711.d7z06ksqo04ocwkk@webmail.carlsonarts.com> Subject: how to undo Electro Harmonix 2880 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:27:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/DVAmH833DPg2TCaOdHxGYMQc08poIHpS3QAv nix3f57eW/kJ+hullQr0XhcYhcjTSq35bT6746G5xDXZYVPzMj n7S7gJcA+6CqkKMkKXYwcIP+y/t3Oe3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:25:53 +0000 (UTC) for undoing the first loop, all you have to do is activate new loop and record again. for later recorded material you can work around the undo-problem by activating punch-in mode. a little strange: you will only hear your punched-in track after you stop recording. so the assuring moment when you hear the beginning of your present recording will never come... tilmann > I got one and played around with it a little bit before deciding it would > be fun in the studio but not much good onstage. No 'undo" function, for > one thing. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:26:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 747C33BF01; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=c+bj83V04FFvRugv7tHYpdt5glTydRxh3E01sPnec8w=; b=THIKQCazCZ+aU6Biaa5/O7yDlYx/0W8wZ0Eh/QA/VtIp7xsRBE714u/uSurOsggFCn1DB36jUNT0N2LANlnEPDWfrbTDD/ziUBJ05NBfI2lPp7FezmARTdOC6QQf/0ad8XHjep8R1dPfi1uyjmDjg56c2pim5OSr8vNQTKLuJc8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=L6K7/2uGY95htDSVFJx+DbMURWPmsfMJBVyvakvDb9BSyZyJ7UMfVYfW8bxk92e896XRALBY7QfVVBjTk+K0l6akGjioJXx/BnjyQfqwqtnVbhJKIGvC/yy/j8O/20hxJAxdmQPNo2Q3+KJq7o3bxw92HN48dJp/wKhRWE0nFN0= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:26:40 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: <47D98D97.7030500@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8484_18386677.1205440000204" References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> <47D98D97.7030500@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:26:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8484_18386677.1205440000204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "The latest version (of the Loop software) is a VST plugin. Its important to offer the same functions for stage and for recording. So far looping was mainly used for training and live playing. To make it spread more, it needs to invade the studios as well. It can improve the recording situation by digging into the magic and recording the original inspirations." On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > For sure. How 'bout this tidbit - "Kim has left the company to > concentrate only on Loopers-Delight." > > > > > ------=_Part_8484_18386677.1205440000204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "The latest version (of the Loop software) is a VST plugin. Its important to offer the same functions for stage and for recording. So far looping was mainly used for training and live playing. To make it spread more, it needs to invade the studios as well. It can improve the recording situation by digging into the magic and recording the original inspirations."


On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
For sure. How 'bout this tidbit - "Kim has left the company to
concentrate only on Loopers-Delight."





------=_Part_8484_18386677.1205440000204-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 20:30:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C0CF3BEFF; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:30:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:29:56 EDT Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1205440196" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 15301 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <5RrvMC.A.iNH.U7Y2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:30:12 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1205440196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just ordered one via the website. I got a confirming email stating: "NOTE: Stock quantities are updated every 15 minutes. There is a slight possibility that it may be sold out when your order is processed. We will contact you if this happens. Thank you for your understanding." Can I expect my "we're out of stock on this" email in about 15 minutes? Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) -------------------------------1205440196 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Good luck from me and members of WORLD CUP 2010 Online International Lottery Sincerely Mrs. Larisa Hull Promotions Manager From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 13 22:49:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84B533BE7E; Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 413149.25873.bm@omp208.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FzuQdEDvJW7CIHy176Ine3Kv3ZkqQv3nMYb5/9My5swnTmwd3J/Jue/ieXdjhqFa3rlyv0KMUpvmEZNjsBuAhBB7eIYZ3BijMlSicS/fRjrEKEu+l0FvHGMGto36T4FK2+nbnEkXjvCftvRJIkIvyVj1qzU/03VtzSWxrScUbOo=; X-YMail-OSG: OYenW2MVM1m7CyNgPhIaRlYrTKHZGUwDi13RNqiq Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:49:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: OT: Zdenek Liska To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120803121524h3c8a25a8hc1f28fe51cef9329@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <224945.16931.qm@web45109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7Dsyz.A.hbE.l9a2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Pardon the off-topicality here, but if anyone'd know, it'd be you guys. I'd like to know more about the great Czech film composer Zdenek Liska but the available resources are woefully skinchy and are mostly limited to biographical outlines and loose filmographies. I've heard that he often used one-of-a-kind homemade instruments, and ANYONE can hear that he was an early pioneer of delay. I'm sure if he were around today, he'd be looping. Any aficionadi/cogniscenti amongst us? Off-list replies would probably be better, unless they're of general list-interest... -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 01:44:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42B2A3BE86; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1205459048; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Nab+ycnhBmdFMPhLchuWxjv+ctM=; b=cR36LDYqoMP9OQHEWg6MeZdfUBcXXQoZZrH/1QX1nrJFZBo+DbDW/8et+n300PU/ jCxUC3xAt4LZi2LIUN1sNiAaB+1auP69dG9PHgyD071dDh0Wsm5H5jTTwzXHCr6q; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=LX4pQ2q9-eJWtpAlEgYA:9 a=r2OSxxli0SzWBFJpvr0A:7 a=EG-_ojJMKlh1PMa0ymy_CGIX8iMA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp08.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Message-ID: <000601c8857d$573386e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <224945.16931.qm@web45109.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Zdenek Liska Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:44:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <2YNTIB.A.3kC.phd2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:44:09 +0000 (UTC) I found some more on him through a google of Jan Svankmajer an animater that Liska worked with. You Tube has some clips availiable with his scores. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umy9rLd-zJM&feature=related and others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zden%C4%9Bk_Li%C5%A1ka has a list. Nothing yet on instrumentation. peace, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Nelson" To: Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 5:49 PM Subject: OT: Zdenek Liska > Pardon the off-topicality here, but if anyone'd know, > it'd be you guys. > > I'd like to know more about the great Czech film > composer Zdenek Liska but the available resources are > woefully skinchy and are mostly limited to > biographical outlines and loose filmographies. I've > heard that he often used one-of-a-kind homemade > instruments, and ANYONE can hear that he was an early > pioneer of delay. I'm sure if he were around today, > he'd be looping. > > Any aficionadi/cogniscenti amongst us? > > Off-list replies would probably be better, unless > they're of general list-interest... > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 05:05:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E64F3BE86; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:05:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=RDcx9XtCy3dJYwsc7atxPtiDRFCwWNoqi+yU+WsRC2E=; b=AK3r5jtbVlUUoopmjBDr+xAxGfF+r3bvUn2iEEMNIxh5QqMWBiD15SycvoQq49yLczTWDn6N67nbJvxm7eRL94uGkPXOkmcBlvqJlQloBcQeienxQv82eAPLuWEaQakOdXhO9a9qsYRi7LPQcLks0sYKynipN8iO+2KCzXQgtgQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=k5zOBIUkc73CheCJn/DTrWRyjiXnVikODvxNY413FK6XlZiRenaCmbvMpx0gol/65+nJtkZyGkyOAJJGflMEwMxKzIsZa7X+ni4Eel3nmPPX/wasxb5BzA+hJqW66YyBxq33VzLQ/XIUhY0Mjgl6V2AzTak5T1Arh25bque8iHM= Message-ID: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:05:28 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6725_20334728.1205471128183" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:05:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6725_20334728.1205471128183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi there, I've been lurking here since about 2000. And have been slowly graduating up the loop chain from DL4, to RC-20, to RC-50, and finally in the past month I was able to afford an Echoplex...thanks to that rad MF deal. I instantly was enamored with it! Anyways, to the topic at hand. I've attached an M-Audio Trigger Finger to my EDP, and have had some success with triggering loops (in sampleplay) and triggering other features. I've seen in the archive that others use a similar setup. To those users: how do you program a note-on message ONLY, withOUT the note off? The triggerfinger insists on either a toggle state, or a depressed on/off state. Also, how, in general do you have your EDP+Triggerfinger setup? What functions do you have programmed? Thanks, Patrick ------=_Part_6725_20334728.1205471128183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi there,
I've been lurking here since about 2000. And have been slowly graduating up the loop chain from DL4, to RC-20, to RC-50, and finally in the past month I was able to afford an Echoplex...thanks to that rad MF deal. I instantly was enamored with it! Anyways, to the topic at hand.

I've attached an M-Audio Trigger Finger to my EDP, and have had some success with triggering loops (in sampleplay) and triggering other features.

I've seen in the archive that others use a similar setup. To those users: how do you program a note-on message ONLY, withOUT the note off? The triggerfinger insists on either a toggle state, or a depressed on/off state. Also, how, in general do you have your EDP+Triggerfinger setup? What functions do you have programmed?

Thanks,
Patrick
------=_Part_6725_20334728.1205471128183-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 08:14:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC1F13BE81; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 685958125/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.174.124 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.174.124 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnQBAKjQ2UdPSq58/2dsb2JhbAAIqVyCGg Message-ID: <47DA33EA.4050208@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:14:34 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi Patrick. I have both those devices (don't use them together but...) Like most Midi Controllers the Trigger Finger isn't particularly programmable. It just does the most commonly needed functions. However, there's probably a way to achieve exactly the results that you want just using your setup, by setting the EDP parameters andy butler Patrick Suler wrote: > I've attached an M-Audio Trigger Finger to my EDP, and have had some > success with triggering loops (in sampleplay) and triggering other features. > > I've seen in the archive that others use a similar setup. To those > users: how do you program a note-on message ONLY, withOUT the note off? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 09:29:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1ED0B3BE81; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:29:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=ypHFXuDWzgU4GkxYGj6MistmJVQnooxKVX2CB1xJxTs=; b=py1u66Gv5CIqLuJVlOU/CxojfHiJuVwQLWC5K8XYqweuTtftbSTXrJr7tYQk9rfcRQBUaxieCElueSbfM4GY9nnuIevnATzzh/QaynX72lyjswAZlfgtiolYpatKZmAR8lOGgLMY1iuqs6pT0t8d5O1XxDsPn+Elh9zJT/HQXe4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=QN2zY48aWpTN/PjMHp5fr40D3mCWvadhLSbrCu4D14qS80YNnsT3vQfCGzAQlhbfSxfgwAqFxU8IwA0rbi0pwtaSmUVl7xiiAs+u4/6F1hhlbuethU4n+S7laBMEho0aRTZH7mfeG77QRz9hPmzNhi7KoBSYh8EjCBGomBgZTWY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:29:26 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Augustus Loop for Windows now released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3db37264289d1ab2 Resent-Message-ID: <32SJjB.A.MbB.2Vk2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:29:27 +0000 (UTC) See http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 10:28:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB8C33BE82; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 956308.84208.bm@omp210.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=3lraV/sbkRiN+S7TVj/jUy4hahBrp8GD2NY8vaW/6pnVXQMUaIWUwgGIRbBRC6aydj7mvp85d//4/VUMoKTEaJ6tW7wpBiBANo+m3yGos/s5nY2aRs822675u0BESyIaK5dQvoB6hP1dns1hJetliwkhoIxjMVeXOZS5Q49e0t0= ; X-YMail-OSG: oIs4Vk4VM1lkBknTQ9F1vu5MNJgND_UQER0afDwtfSiQoIDcABPSlE9h9pJr6QmaPidQhRaHJA-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <004401c885be$13e1ba60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> From: "Ben" To: References: <009201c8845e$c8673b60$6402a8c0@RUELLE> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144079332A5D@barq.sailpoint.com> Subject: Re: SM Pro Audio announce three VST/VSTi compatible hardware units Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:27:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:28:02 +0000 (UTC) >From the video on sonicstate, it seems you just have to copy the dll to the machine, no port is needed. I guess you are right anyway the Mobius is a special case and tht's why we love it so much ;-) Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Larson" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:00 PM Subject: RE: SM Pro Audio announce three VST/VSTi compatible hardware units Interesting. My guess is that it's another Receptor-ish thing that runs it's own proprietary operating system. I tried to find out more about the "Powered by VFX hardware platform" they mention but couldn't find anything other than press releases. Like the Receptor this will most likely only run VSTs that strictly adhere to the VST and VSTGUI APIs and don't do *anything* that touches the OS directly. Mobius is not one of these. I wish them well but for many VST developers this will be yet another platform they have to port to. I love their industrial design though. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 10:34:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90BF13BE89; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 983336.44458.bm@omp208.mail.re3.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=33d9qGYxX0oCwM0k1zymZZ097/vagqlF7box6W2UShUZesrwfYUmV8siozGEL8BYlhM/Lpmb2fAFmS/ZkjTf0bxsp5GXoRHvK3gXwywZjCK1g6JUZZdwjAFQbjm3p8bH0byVOEkv89F0zfW5yEd1coMP9gj+e1CkURdMN/btEjI= ; X-YMail-OSG: 8wG7caEVM1nvQiRn1aDmuo5O3agIMBcpajPeM8_SPIjEjR_v.L_nAqgQPGIsPd0DI07DNHzqtwhfZFvKBUm8Yoy8dMuJfvcN05pE6DI3QUdVPonInyn39Eua0xbF6y4eSnj0uKgkShN4lw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <007a01c885be$fa815700$6402a8c0@RUELLE> From: "Ben" To: Subject: semi _OT: korg synth runs on nintendo DS Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:34:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:34:29 +0000 (UTC) http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/korg-ds-10-synthesizer-video-223204.html The video show that some kind of looping is possible. It's interesting that korg is going that way. We can perhaps expect some kaossilator on the DS soon. Of course for sampling (as on the KP3) it would be harder without some external memory even if REC-REC within elctroplankton does it in a crude way. Lot of interesting stuff in the Frankfurt Messe this year ;-) Ben. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 11:45:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C44253BE8E; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 10740622 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: New Line6 Looper? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:45:25 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72079B3259@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: New Line6 Looper? Thread-Index: AciFyOS+qgUEA7szRu2y/6k/mFzSFg== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2008 11:45:26.0084 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4EE6040:01C885C8] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <1AnEaB.A.jeF.YVm2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:45:28 +0000 (UTC) is it just me or does it look a bit plastic-y? does it run on clock batteries or is it mains-only? & why (why why why?) no midi? but I'll probably get one anyway. & a dd7..... :-) if the GAS doesn't kill me, the g/f will! duncan. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 13:07:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE0693BE81; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:07:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:05:35 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #571 for March 13, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47DA862F.3@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: <6czN4C.A.a7H.4hn2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:07:04 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080313.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #571 March 13, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Gert Emmens. The Featured CD at Midnight was "When Darkness Falls Upon the Earth" on Groove Unlimited records. I also played music by Fringe Element and Xeroid Entity, two of the groups playing at the Electro-Music Orchestra concert at the David Sarnoff Library on March 15th. Details are found on the events page. Gert Emmens: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#mar Events: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Voide Autumn Space Sponge (none) Parallel Worlds Recreation Existence (Rubber) Fringe Element Nefarious Subatomic Mayhem (none) Xeroid Entity Iapetus Moons of Saturn(Electro-music) Gert Emmens Rendezvous With When Darkness Falls Upon the 2004 MN4 Earth (Groove) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Gert Emmens When Darkness Falls When Darkness Falls Upon the Upon the Earth Earth (Groove) Gert Emmens Nostalgia WDFUtE (Groove) Gert Emmens Casting Shadows On When Darkness Falls Upon the the Cold Ground Earth (Groove) Gert Emmens The Morning After WDFUtE (Groove) Gert Emmens Requiem Pour Sam WDFUtE (Groove) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Gert Emmens. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Tale of the Warlock" on Groove Unlimited records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 13:36:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB1A3BE84; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:32:13 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Reminder: Video Performance with the Neil Leonard Ensemble 03.15.08, Lowell MA To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:36:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I'll be performing at the lovely 119 Gallery in Lowell this Saturday night with an old friend and a couple of new friends. Doctor T with the Neil Leonard Ensemble - Collective Improvisation for a New Millennium Doctor T -- Video Mixing. Neil Leonard -- Alto Sax, Bass Clarinet, Laptop Anthony Baldino -- laptop. Spencer Putnam -- Laptop, Bass. $5 donation. 119 Gallery, 119 Chelmsford St, Lowell 978 452 8138 http://www.119gallery.org/ -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 13:55:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFEB23BE98; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_52366629-a84e-4859-8803-d808e7b58c8b_" X-Originating-IP: [204.107.47.109] From: jj 179 To: Subject: RE: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:55:33 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2008 13:55:33.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[1278AE50:01C885DB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:55:34 +0000 (UTC) --_52366629-a84e-4859-8803-d808e7b58c8b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dagnabbit - I wish to gods I had money I would buy one of those suckers rig= ht now. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 26 17:54:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ED4B3BE87; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004001c88f6a$5c6a6100$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: Cc: References: <8c82d1660803260953w4bb9fa9fo23b09a6ac97b31be@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Looperlative Linearity Questions Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:53:54 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi Patrick, I'm happy to answer your questions over this list, but also feel free to contact me directly via email or telephone. My personal email is bob@looperlative.com and the telephone here in the office is +1 415 992 LOOP. > Does the Looperlative have linear, sequential loops (as opposed to > parallel)? > Can linear loops also be layered? The LP1 can be used to create different song sections. There is a function called "cue" which let's you mark a track or group of tracks as ready to start playing as soon as any other track stops. For example, you could have 3 tracks that play your verse and 3 tracks that play your chorus. You can use the the cue function to seamless switch from the the verse to chorus and back again. The only limitation is that each of the 8 tracks can only hold 1 part. If track 1 holds a chorus part, then it can't be used to hold a verse part. If there is an instrument that plays the same part in both the chorus and the verse, then you can record that to a single track and just leave it running. Basically, the LP1 doesn't enforce song structure. Functions exist in the unit to aid construction of songs. It is up to you to choose how you will use them in the construction of your music. Bob From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 26 18:05:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 808893BE8A; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 15390680 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: fun step sequencing VST plugin Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:05:29 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7207C0D090@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: fun step sequencing VST plugin Thread-Index: AciPa/nnvd2iGo3gTxazeh8oA08asg== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Mar 2008 18:05:30.0366 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA4CA9E0:01C88F6B] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:05:32 +0000 (UTC) not VST or a step-sequencer, but great fun anyway.... http://www.nooranch.com/synaesmedia/gbloink/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 26 19:15:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E984C3BE88; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1228 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:15:50 UTC Message-ID: <47EA9C18.7080908@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:55:20 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Music Studio prediction in 1626 References: <66f9cc1e0803260328w2a76d1f1l7ea22ba1ea3b0fea@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803260328w2a76d1f1l7ea22ba1ea3b0fea@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-Tijj.A.ZVC.mDq6HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen schrieb: > It seems Francis Bacon delivered a totally initiated description of > the modern music studio already back in 1626. But he did not mention > Live Looping ;-)) Oh, he did: "We have also divers strange and artificial echos, reflecting the voice many times...." This can only mean looping... ;-) -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From moneybookers@service.com Wed Mar 26 19:48:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1133 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:48:24 UTC Received: from host31.host31-server.com (host31.host31-server.com [66.49.229.82]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E103BE7E for ; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:48:24 +0000 (UTC) X-ClientAddr: 211.56.174.201 Received: from User ([211.56.174.201]) (authenticated bits=0) by host31.host31-server.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m2QJS7Y4023919; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:28:08 -0500 Message-Id: <200803261928.m2QJS7Y4023919@host31.host31-server.com> From: "www.moneybookers.com" Subject: Money Laundering Policy - Read Carefully Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:28:28 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0083_01C2A9A6.18D02D84" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: moneybookers@service.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C2A9A6.18D02D84 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please view the message from the attachment file.We have sent you the notification as an attachment file to prevent fraudulent activity and further information theft. ------=_NextPart_000_0083_01C2A9A6.18D02D84-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 26 19:51:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E295B3BE89; Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Iy9co/FRmuFUaJeiCIPLNm6zZkeF4ImOh2zB3Q9yIvE=; b=BPj2iBkjz1Njwzd5+ksTxHcQn6latFt3807Oiv09a4/Cf8SHkfGmx2wi4I8v5f6HsUvA4RIrjSHNVsncn3ni/HSQxsnqXk0eBsRaFkEiGgWhAcZpR8DarQoA5yb/BUU9yyrM8+6KquGw+7dcJxjBH6zvOXF4mFnwxZXczL19L/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KU6mDt2xsMF4qnOrndNFihkH/plkbS0VYfLJphGktl72+7ThtLAn81lNIZ6bQMXwPZBPDtS/ZdpPnXnnmjh+fNfVZyGaD18EB3RLMEFX1/9k0E/qA4F0JAP5/RfnTSwbT/WHQAPV7Oc98aV0or/hjhY2HyAjEZJVovczax/ft+k= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803261251q522b4e92m14351f0a84e36a21@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:51:48 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Music Studio prediction in 1626 In-Reply-To: <47EA9C18.7080908@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0803260328w2a76d1f1l7ea22ba1ea3b0fea@mail.gmail.com> <47EA9C18.7080908@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:51:49 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen schrieb: > > > It seems Francis Bacon delivered a totally initiated description of > > the modern music studio already back in 1626. But he did not mention > > Live Looping ;-)) On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Oh, he did: > > "We have also divers strange and artificial echos, reflecting the voice > many times...." > This can only mean looping... ;-) Goddammit, Stefan - you're right! :-) -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 04:06:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 891903BE81; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Vw8iiKbX42Dna4CbCJEinVtR9zhIK6Z3pxctqUPmKaUygNbSwdTNTdKGvMyiRjKSp/0faJNuch4CohrjpGMC2TNQ4ImJdaNbx0qUXkiFyz+WglnlVN7pVMknrc1Gb4LTktGJeGWCl1S4R2+NH2bm5/FaU9YDeanWO1B1eT8nYNE=; X-YMail-OSG: PhyIVTsVM1lR0xY3SydNKqxJ.2oCt0m1mkrH5PCJpuqxHEfu8RukwahoGUGtlfhAMGX_6rHmo0hLI3ojRVSp996C7SZZGsV.Pp.a58Ig_WJBae0hFUo- Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: Daniel Lanois on Gearslutz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080326164814.87F293BE8A@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <78070.96439.qm@web52805.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:06:06 +0000 (UTC) Almost too good to be true. Daniel Lanois fielding a slew of questions for a two week period. http://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-daniel-lanois/ Stephen ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 08:04:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E83B93BE87; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:04:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I6puPihV1kQutON+BNPM16mXXo1cNhwpfupz4fgqlAL0qo6P2apWQN2c+0VrDZ89tTd3qPpl1cDiguvXTDYS6iM+JqpYg+w2cG10oyS8nuAkh+4Jqcl1KmwdABKnvxM7XQOVxUz7BSBgPes4PmzUjm3WEHIe9hFgR0Gh7t1/+Lo=; X-YMail-OSG: kuXAPAwVM1k_Z0t7kl5We79RFvQ6sMENPdi9o7eUqXqJNXkRuKtEi1ynfoDBXiC7FdmFSipoMx7FIAMl10idwkpXje76noKKG.QYo3mJS_lYVoQXEfY- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:04:28 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Pitch-to-MIDI conversion To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <468678.8006.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:04:30 +0000 (UTC) wow impressive Mark! youve just put manhattan transfer out of a job!;-) Luis --- Mark Smart wrote: > I just got Melodyne plugin a few weeks ago and have > been having a great time > with it. Pretty amazing. I can make my lame singing > sound pretty good. Check > this out: > > http://www.marksmart.net/bands/iconoclast/longerworks/island/StrangersACapella2.mp3 > > This is the older version that can only do single > notes at a time, but WOW, > great fun. That is six tracks, 2 on each part, where > I actually did sing in > the six parts separately (I didn't start with one > track and make transposed > copies with Melodyne, although this is possible). > Then I "Melodyned" each > one separately. I haven't used the standalone > version, but the plugin is > quite powerful. > > It's cool that you can edit the individual notes and > easily adjust the > amount of modulation on each note to be anywhere > between me (wavering the > pitch all over the place) and "Cher". Click on the > blob and drag down. > > I've been hearing this vocal harmony with close > intervals in my head for a > long time but have never been able to sing it or > find anyone else who can > sing it. Now I can get it on a recording...I'm > pretty excited. > > You said "Pitch to MIDI" in the subject line...AFAIK > the plugin can't do > pitch-to-MIDI. It does track the pitch of your voice > but I don't think you > can generate MIDI from it. Dunno if that's possible > with any of the versions > of Melodyne, either. > > -- > Mark Smart > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > http://www.marksmart.net > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 08:14:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C7933BE84; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rXeJOfZGbWlEJHrsvQ7pB4q9P6dVkyilTZVuBVCPZnVNe8g7oZA8MfHcM7HUyGpAyNYc2CWLxuKt0yW1tayhnuGqQ7ZjYo+4Ob44jw4jo0yppEvet8NJEp92TcuCBaCwFb8QFGno/ByDb2nH4VM3OIrGDX2gSxlu0ZxJu989rLs=; X-YMail-OSG: njhObmUVM1l5udLifLVU0zUGI8GO9e6COuApWOKgnXS3g1tyD.32aGBJOz_Sw3fevsfB1Ch.tX_Nlo2679LQbWCdj1xN8pvBJsoLaZZJ_Ica6C69wiY- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Release Party Invitaiton - new album release! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <211DAC69-F2A2-4CC8-A8B2-22E32C037298@webworkz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <815628.10484.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:14:21 +0000 (UTC) wonderful job Per and Costas the album rocks! cheers Luis --- Scott Duncan wrote: > Per & Costas, > > Congratulations on your new album/ collaboration! > > The music -- the sounds, arrangement & mix -- is > fantastic. Very, > very well done. > > After decades of purchasing other people's music, > I'm now more > interested in creating it. So I rarely buy on > iTunes, but this ( and > a few other looper's music ) is a notable exception, > and I'm > delighted to add your music to my ears. Very > worthwhile. > > Bravo! > > > Scott Duncan > > scottduncanvideo.com > > > > > > On Mar 24, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > Hi friends, > > > > I just want to inform about a new album release by > the duo Per Boysen > > & Costas Andreaou. Everyone is welcome to a > virtual release party at > > the album site http://www.stockholm-athens.com/ > (starting right now > > and never ending) > > > > There's a listening media player/streamer on the > site as well as > > accurate information and a chat page for all kind > of feedback. > > > > Per > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 08:25:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 864433BE8D; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:25:23 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Release Party Invitaiton - new album release! MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" Cc: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:25:25 +0000 (UTC) > On Mar 24, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I just want to inform about a new album release by > the duo Per Boysen & Costas Andreaou. Per and Costas, I enjoyed the preview. Good work :) Sjaak=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 08:28:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 239543BE7F; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uUwQF8l7aEGnvL2RurXmTXvvJWjkiBpHpdxxXS77pUEe9hzrz2A6pUc1yfJbmUXOWsfvrtq3WjMGDgV9G9dl/kZAVHXr3eZejZ5aJ0bkAM4elAvu5CAmspv3kHYHfOqNxx8eROpPh05P70B8fpZIJ/vJ+yRv11gzOZdp2r7Ny1Q=; X-YMail-OSG: HKL0_LYVM1m.isTT.5tjNnAn7tKF4JjrhnrxZKwPQswP8gs3Sj7iqlc1mnVa8CCLz5OJM5RQHtg9G_7akOyH7huC51bgL83PIhLh.9z8uv4ntHHqMdM- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:27:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: FCB1010 and Ripwerx question help (o.t) To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <543662.28575.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:28:00 +0000 (UTC) Hi friends, Ive sent this quastion to the fcb1010 group but still no answer,for those using the UnO software and Ripwerx i am having a problem doing sysex patch dump from my FCB1010 to store them in my PC,although it does patch dump receive without a problem.Ive checked and change cables but the problem persists,it says "midi input not responding" Also my fcb1010 has been acting weird,i have to sometimes press button nr.1 really hard for it to respond and the other buttons sned weird midi messages sometimes,this wasnt happening before,have any of you had problems with its switches going bad,or better put whats the fcb1010 average life expectancy? thanx! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 08:38:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B86BA3BE8C; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:38:11 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:FCB1010 and Ripwerx question help (o.t) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 X-DCC-scarlet.be-Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:38:14 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote: > Also my fcb1010 has been acting weird,i have to > sometimes press button nr.1 really hard for it to > respond and the other buttons sned weird midi messages > sometimes,this wasnt happening before,have any of you > had problems with its switches going bad,or better put > whats the fcb1010 average life expectancy? Although the FCB1010 looks sturdy and reliable...it's not. After 2-3 year= s, it starts falling apart and acting weird. It's only plus is it's price= and that's why it's selling well.=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 10:30:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26EE33BE89; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 06:28:05 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47EB84C5.8040207@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:30:39 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Check out Afterglow on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh On today's show, you will hear music from IZZ live at NEARfest and the Oblivion Sun CD. GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long Special focus on Gert Emmens. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "A Boy's World" on Groove Unlimited Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#mar Check out Galactic Travels on MySpace at: http://myspace.com/galactictravels Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. ====================================================================== All times are EST/GMT-4 Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 12:14:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9C443BE84; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=FEws6P++IpAZW9bYQ/zU/Mab0tMLBdTl+WQsReLnq4I=; b=JDYAC0W0Rd3ZVOXMGiu6dtQhtvhQ32HIGduk7lGkp4p8aN/rf5nOuuI6JE9Zr5f39scvhpYhKxbgHOQZBZJhpOFIjuuNOfSYoc5ElqgdelRkDUvAlkrQMIA0y7t1qsLcAEf37m8yQCMSahbgZyqlcaXvAImYaqC2dRkhgGI7ifI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=RHOlsJyTcEqbMvh/A+zV39LlGMceR79DIKlv4RNzqxSXBb5CAuQChsOA1ufa5l13tGU522IiswkF+sqoPUgO73jqtO76TlDp/waUfnIACgXJopQzBuV70+Ipl0GYACKgpN1E73RAxvMmW6m2ZSM+MEMyrX6KM+i0xnEVA2aFN3A= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:14:18 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Pitch-to-MIDI conversion In-Reply-To: <468678.8006.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2762_523650.1206620058532" References: <468678.8006.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6CMS3C.A.1bB.c-46HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:14:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2762_523650.1206620058532 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks. Take 6 is a big influence, too. But I don't think their jobs are in any danger... Mark On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:04 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > wow impressive Mark! youve just put manhattan transfer > out of a job!;-) > Luis > > > --- Mark Smart wrote: > > > I just got Melodyne plugin a few weeks ago and have > > been having a great time > > with it. Pretty amazing. I can make my lame singing > > sound pretty good. Check > > this out: > > > > > > http://www.marksmart.net/bands/iconoclast/longerworks/island/StrangersACapella2.mp3 > > > > This is the older version that can only do single > > notes at a time, but WOW, > > great fun. That is six tracks, 2 on each part, where > > I actually did sing in > > the six parts separately (I didn't start with one > > track and make transposed > > copies with Melodyne, although this is possible). > > Then I "Melodyned" each > > one separately. I haven't used the standalone > > version, but the plugin is > > quite powerful. > > > > It's cool that you can edit the individual notes and > > easily adjust the > > amount of modulation on each note to be anywhere > > between me (wavering the > > pitch all over the place) and "Cher". Click on the > > blob and drag down. > > > > I've been hearing this vocal harmony with close > > intervals in my head for a > > long time but have never been able to sing it or > > find anyone else who can > > sing it. Now I can get it on a recording...I'm > > pretty excited. > > > > You said "Pitch to MIDI" in the subject line...AFAIK > > the plugin can't do > > pitch-to-MIDI. It does track the pitch of your voice > > but I don't think you > > can generate MIDI from it. Dunno if that's possible > > with any of the versions > > of Melodyne, either. > > > > -- > > Mark Smart > > http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart > > http://www.marksmart.net > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_2762_523650.1206620058532 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks. Take 6 is a big influence, too. But I don't think their jobs are in any danger...

Mark

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:04 AM, L.A. Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
wow impressive Mark! youve just put manhattan transfer
out of a job!;-)
Luis


--- Mark Smart <marksmartus@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got Melodyne plugin a few weeks ago and have
> been having a great time
> with it. Pretty amazing. I can make my lame singing
> sound pretty good. Check
> this out:
>
>
http://www.marksmart.net/bands/iconoclast/longerworks/island/StrangersACapella2.mp3
>
> This is the older version that can only do single
> notes at a time, but WOW,
> great fun. That is six tracks, 2 on each part, where
> I actually did sing in
> the six parts separately (I didn't start with one
> track and make transposed
> copies with Melodyne, although this is possible).
> Then I "Melodyned" each
> one separately. I haven't used the standalone
> version, but the plugin is
> quite powerful.
>
> It's cool that you can edit the individual notes and
> easily adjust the
> amount of modulation on each note to be anywhere
> between me (wavering the
> pitch all over the place) and "Cher". Click on the
> blob and drag down.
>
> I've been hearing this vocal harmony with close
> intervals in my head for a
> long time but have never been able to sing it or
> find anyone else who can
> sing it. Now I can get it on a recording...I'm
> pretty excited.
>
> You said "Pitch to MIDI" in the subject line...AFAIK
> the plugin can't do
> pitch-to-MIDI. It does track the pitch of your voice
> but I don't think you
> can generate MIDI from it. Dunno if that's possible
> with any of the versions
> of Melodyne, either.
>
> --
> Mark Smart
> http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart
> http://www.marksmart.net
>


www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


     ____________________________________________________________________________________
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http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_2762_523650.1206620058532-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 21:03:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 559E23BE80; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=YR5paatnzDNpHGPTAwObVhS1rjLClsz+RwBZkwzskYE=; b=iRWKsWrOkNh53uEV6KhoVlOXARYGf/4BYML6ypvYpvKUhWmW1+0fdij8TPnOjnhgRA9lTTKA9Z94bVdt76G+GHbcUjIK3tqaBHSGZhYq4JFGSljsEgcVkl3VMfwiJrRcUA/J4lk/5huEoIU9ZZplZ2bYDC5E46cZiVAVRrUkU/g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=aKKob30rvoG1/RX2KLTJudHJeqRZPDPX/mXe769z0KVJnDvQGjmGPkhWnxqgmZEv56LxwD4jM/7CJnn1kkje1/F1m3MsDQgXZeghjdwVaMBItP8LneKjjLSNQGj7S7jbZyBtXWlIHGz/io5bEfELd0+qDnPNoF7WuyG7QuewL6I= Message-ID: <37f071c00803271403s15ca8289we91f9046e24b6655@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:03:37 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cd packaging MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25118_31367613.1206651817056" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:03:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_25118_31367613.1206651817056 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone know of an outlet for unusual CD packaging in limited runs? I have a friend looking for something other than the standard jewel case/digipak kind of thing and he hasn't been able to any sources yet. Thanks Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_25118_31367613.1206651817056 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone know of an outlet for unusual CD packaging in limited runs?  I have a friend looking for something other than the standard jewel case/digipak kind of thing and he hasn't been able to any sources yet.

Thanks

Kevin

--

Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

- Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org ------=_Part_25118_31367613.1206651817056-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 21:46:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22C2B3BE85; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47EC1C76.3090809@unguitar.com> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:15:18 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: transmitting music with no wires Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:46:31 +0000 (UTC) Hello dear guys, this is sure an OT, but I am sure I can get some useful informations from you. I would like to have the music coming out from my living room hi-fi ( I am an old man) transmitted to another set of loudspeakers in a different room. There is something like that made for headphones and I was wondering if a thing like this exists for a regular amp+loudspeaker system. thanks for you minutes, luca www.unguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 22:21:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9563D3BE8C; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 403 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:21:56 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 478332.11868.bm@omp501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PNDlxFb7NzCDuKN4wmxqK3Y6bxf5O8ApjG16ahq9H+Ep5fq9I0Q3Uc80+RsxQ/Xa7KWFv/Z6vZWAwPsgwMINt4+je0410lhv35l1VQfEot+PDxYlWUwiT/b7vWBVSRiv+omIQy44YXAalQW/Z6WH1eGmOH5tjLVzlEzp1cSdJA0=; X-YMail-OSG: Zj4O3pIVM1lI_vw_xh4QS105BlidieZBCItw3g_1oinoy6Y3r7Jv_NTvkPj0XQO5m5DQfPVXtCFTl22cpUQrctLirro10kYLF6JCgtJNhYW4rmP.tepCnWe_oIUDrA-- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:15:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Cd packaging To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <37f071c00803271403s15ca8289we91f9046e24b6655@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <68671.69450.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:21:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin, Someone on one of the lists I'm on (possibly even LD) posted this a few months back: -t- --- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Does anyone know of an outlet for unusual CD > packaging in limited runs? http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? 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Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 27 22:25:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E33F3BE89; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 360397.72415.bm@omp402.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TtQJUH9NDoCstni+Ut1Z5xG8P7CfUz89ykK0vwWSXqzpPGlIkgncbW7RnKxxdDtXbuNQbECBtzQJPO8ZB3CuQUWtCGYQxr7gkHbSnSxf1cWVA0KWmxaJZAr/xfA3kN5O1yJx2452//cP3uUg8iM4MIdYWOrUEqwIB08Q7aAE9M8=; X-YMail-OSG: HtNbCWIVM1mooBrcE58_7XhBsg6ctgtzIbaYFmlUsD28U9oBvREo8mWxdbs8bwzCQi5oBNf4Ix3EH6m8LZy63SsGeCoJyCU4DiTHIaCch051DaZ_ArE- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:25:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Boston area loop-gig spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000601c8857d$573386e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <890522.13436.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:25:57 +0000 (UTC) If anyone in the Boston area (Massachusetts, United States, North America, Earth, etc.) has some free time this Saturday afternoon (March 29th, 2008), I'll be looping at an opening at the Movado Boutique in Chestnut Hill from 12:30 to 4:30. I'm told there will be wine and cheese involved. C'mon out, and don't be too shy to introduce yourself, like I was at the David Torn show last week... -t- Movado Boutique The Mall at Chestnut Hill, Boylston Street N207A, Chestnut Hill, Massachusetts 02467 http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 09:34:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F8543BE7F; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002001c890b7$1734cb90$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <68671.69450.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Cd packaging Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 10:35:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18hC4/0r5QHbsIhzZ/wNzdVQegAOm2fFpoPb2n InSIoZsvd1pUrOdjRufAafkxo1jZ/vhgXCvo3QpInAPEBd2gHS 14pla0G1OZCnMBhJ0+PWKeC/SfIKEji Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:34:01 +0000 (UTC) the uline folders are great, but please consider this: the cd may get scratched by the carton when inserting/taking it out. the material is too strong to go through a printer. so you may have to work with glue/stickers or hand painting. smooth looping - tilmann > Someone on one of the lists I'm on (possibly even LD) > posted this a few months back: > From moneybookers@service.com Fri Mar 28 11:33:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 37775 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:33:04 UTC Received: from p4.solisystems.com (solisystems.com [67.15.6.62]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E923BE73 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 12440 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2008 09:34:20 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO User) (211.56.174.201) by solisystems.com with SMTP; 27 Mar 2008 09:34:20 -0500 From: "www.moneybookers.com" Subject: Money Laundering Policy - Read Carefully Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:34:22 +0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C2A9A6.63B21960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20080328113304.40E923BE73@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C2A9A6.63B21960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please view the message from the attachment file.We have sent you the notification as an attachment file to prevent fraudulent activity and further information theft. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 16:57:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12AD63BE84; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2910 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:57:35 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: TEST Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:57:34 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Hmmm, for some reason I don't seem to be getting stuff reposted back from LD today. Just checking. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 17:01:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 086D53BE7C; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <37f071c00803271403s15ca8289we91f9046e24b6655@mail.gmail.com> References: <37f071c00803271403s15ca8289we91f9046e24b6655@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Cd packaging Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:08:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I am going to suggest something a little "outside the box"here. First go to: http://www.5inch.com/storage/disc_hubs See what's there and think about it for a moment or two. Close your eyes and use your imagination. Okay, time's up. This is only one suggestion out of 100s that you could try. Conceivably, you could put one of those self-adhesive hubs on almost=20 anything that's durable . . but the following scheme will do. Your (or your friend, rather) could make something of their own - and=20 make it "artistic" (and recyclable for that matter too) all at the same=20= time. Take old empty LP sleeves, cereal or detergent boxes, shoe boxes, or=20 any kind of cardboard material (with the more "vernacular" commercial=20 print stuff on it, the better, IMOHO). Riffle through trash bins behind stores or go to garage sales if you=20 have to. Cut pieces that are essentially 10" wide by 5" tall and NEATLY fold 'em=20= in half to 5" by 5". Adhere hub to interior panel in exact middle of right-hand side. Decorate outside with stick-on lettering or Avery adhesive labels you=20 can design on computer. Be hap-hazard. You can be tidy and fancy if you want . . . but a little rough and=20 intentionally tacky is better (trust me). Each one will unavoidably be imperfect and unique - but that's totally=20= A-okay (it should be apparent that this can even be the point in this=20 little exercise). Scribble some personal "doodles" around the hub. Be quick . . . doodle . . . but don't dawdle. Put your CD on the hub over the "doodles". Paste any musical personnel, instrumentation and "thanks to" text on a=20= pre-printed Avery label on the left hand side. Sign your name and the date beneath that on the left-hand side. If you have access to such equipment, neatly shrink-wrap the folded=20 result. If you do not, put it in a tuck-n-fold or zip-lock baggy. This will all take some effort and time, and of course it will be=20 "work" but it will also be fun too. So enjoy it . . . Tie the wrapped result with brown packing twine -- top to bottom and=20 side to side with a big friendly showlace-type "bow" out front (tight,=20= but not too tight). If you send 100 to 500 of these packages out to radio programmers or=20 reviewers I GUARANTEE you will get both airplay and reviews (if the=20 music is good, of course) And, if you give the very best ones out to your friends they will each=20= have a signed original work of post-modern artwork to remember you by. This is not a suggestion that has no basis in practical experience. A good friend of mine runs a small (but critically well-thought of)=20 record label. This is (essentially in rough form) some of the secret of his success. Truth be told, it is also somewhat inspired by some of Dr Eugene=20 Chadbourne's CD packaging too (which I admire). Anyway, the object of packaging is more than just providing a container=20= for stuff. It's to help you get noticed. Once you HAVE been noticed it's up to you, your music and the=20 recipient's own particular tastes. BTW, the other part of the this plan (which I unavoidably cannot=20 provide you) is a GOOD mailing list of 100 to 500 likely recipients. That is something equally essential that you are likely only to develop=20= with connections . . . and luck. Good luck Best regards, Ted Killian On Mar 27, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Does anyone know of an outlet for unusual CD packaging in limited=20 > runs?=A0 I have a friend looking for something other than the standard=20= > jewel case/digipak kind of thing and he hasn't been able to any=20 > sources yet. > > Thanks > > Kevin > > --=20 > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all=20 > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 17:14:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C625F3BE8A; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47ED2765.3070800@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:14:13 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cd packaging References: <68671.69450.qm@web45106.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <002001c890b7$1734cb90$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> In-Reply-To: <002001c890b7$1734cb90$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:14:31 +0000 (UTC) For my old band's last release, I bought a quantity of brown recycled cardboard CD mailers, then had a huge rubber stamp made to my design, about eight inches wide. I managed to also find a huge red inking pad, then individually stamped each cover. I made two other smaller stamps to add a bit more info on the back, put the cd inside in a thin CD envelope, and printed the liner notes myself which I also slipped inside. They looked great and unique, and were really cheap to make, I think the stamp cost me about $30 US and the mailers were less than a dollar each. The final package was also easy to mail as they were nearly flat. (Here's a pic of a bunch of them drying - I underinked some for a rougher appearance...http://www.mhorse.com/Gfx/snuff_floor.jpg) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > the uline folders are great, but please consider this: > the cd may get scratched by the carton when inserting/taking it out. > the material is too strong to go through a printer. so you may have to > work with glue/stickers or hand painting. > > smooth looping - tilmann > >> Someone on one of the lists I'm on (possibly even LD) >> posted this a few months back: >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 18:01:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AD653BE89; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4E8f0nGvAAAA:8 a=kpHFvfvXAAAA:8 a=gx8DNsvolpAo1n69n14A:9 a=LdB-cOin7KK9KBvtmlwA:7 a=nidbxJq8AU2uDOsVraCxTOmpyEgA:4 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=TmLYuLy49JwA:10 From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: Cd packaging Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:02:05 -0700 Message-ID: <000101c890fd$d58be560$c2011718@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AciQ9VLDtDiF0ZzLTSygAK3X6U/3vwAB800g Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Ted, This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the week. Big Stupid = DIY ideas in full frontal glory :) I laughed so hard reading this I almost spit out my coffee - which would = be a shame as I am enjoying a very fine blend at the moment. Keep 'em coming Ted, ~Greg -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]=20 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:09 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cd packaging Hi, I am going to suggest something a little "outside the box"here. First go to: http://www.5inch.com/storage/disc_hubs See what's there and think about it for a moment or two. Close your eyes and use your imagination. Okay, time's up. This is only one suggestion out of 100s that you could try. Conceivably, you could put one of those self-adhesive hubs on almost=20 anything that's durable . . but the following scheme will do. Your (or your friend, rather) could make something of their own - and=20 make it "artistic" (and recyclable for that matter too) all at the same=20 time. Take old empty LP sleeves, cereal or detergent boxes, shoe boxes, or=20 any kind of cardboard material (with the more "vernacular" commercial=20 print stuff on it, the better, IMOHO). Riffle through trash bins behind stores or go to garage sales if you=20 have to. Cut pieces that are essentially 10" wide by 5" tall and NEATLY fold 'em=20 in half to 5" by 5". Adhere hub to interior panel in exact middle of right-hand side. Decorate outside with stick-on lettering or Avery adhesive labels you=20 can design on computer. Be hap-hazard. You can be tidy and fancy if you want . . . but a little rough and=20 intentionally tacky is better (trust me). Each one will unavoidably be imperfect and unique - but that's totally=20 A-okay (it should be apparent that this can even be the point in this=20 little exercise). Scribble some personal "doodles" around the hub. Be quick . . . doodle . . . but don't dawdle. Put your CD on the hub over the "doodles". Paste any musical personnel, instrumentation and "thanks to" text on a=20 pre-printed Avery label on the left hand side. Sign your name and the date beneath that on the left-hand side. If you have access to such equipment, neatly shrink-wrap the folded=20 result. If you do not, put it in a tuck-n-fold or zip-lock baggy. This will all take some effort and time, and of course it will be=20 "work" but it will also be fun too. So enjoy it . . . Tie the wrapped result with brown packing twine -- top to bottom and=20 side to side with a big friendly showlace-type "bow" out front (tight,=20 but not too tight). If you send 100 to 500 of these packages out to radio programmers or=20 reviewers I GUARANTEE you will get both airplay and reviews (if the=20 music is good, of course) And, if you give the very best ones out to your friends they will each=20 have a signed original work of post-modern artwork to remember you by. This is not a suggestion that has no basis in practical experience. A good friend of mine runs a small (but critically well-thought of)=20 record label. This is (essentially in rough form) some of the secret of his success. Truth be told, it is also somewhat inspired by some of Dr Eugene=20 Chadbourne's CD packaging too (which I admire). Anyway, the object of packaging is more than just providing a container=20 for stuff. It's to help you get noticed. Once you HAVE been noticed it's up to you, your music and the=20 recipient's own particular tastes. BTW, the other part of the this plan (which I unavoidably cannot=20 provide you) is a GOOD mailing list of 100 to 500 likely recipients. That is something equally essential that you are likely only to develop=20 with connections . . . and luck. Good luck Best regards, Ted Killian On Mar 27, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > Does anyone know of an outlet for unusual CD packaging in limited=20 > runs?=A0 I have a friend looking for something other than the standard = > jewel case/digipak kind of thing and he hasn't been able to any=20 > sources yet. > > Thanks > > Kevin > > --=20 > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have = a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all=20 > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 18:10:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FDDC3BE81; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1813 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:10:29 UTC Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:37:30 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: Cd packaging To: Tilmann Dehnhard , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <003401c89102$f724b800$be992d18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <002001c890b7$1734cb90$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Hey cats 'n' kittens- I use those Uline cardboard CD jackets, and maybe I posted the original link. If you're halfway neat with a photocopier (for multiple copies of your art), a pair of scissors or a big guillotine-like paper-cutter, and a glue-stick, you'll be able to make really pro-looking packages with them. I've been using them for probably four years and have had no problems at all with scratching. CD plastic vs. cardboard: CD wins every time. The Uline folder is also great for inserting a little text booklet inside, something that makes the physical CD a greater value. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.TheCoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "The volume knob on your telepathy is your morality." - Stephen Gaskin, The Farm > the uline folders are great, but please consider this: > the cd may get scratched by the carton when inserting/taking it out. > the material is too strong to go through a printer. so you may have to work > with glue/stickers or hand painting. > > smooth looping - tilmann > > > Someone on one of the lists I'm on (possibly even LD) > > posted this a few months back: > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 18:15:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DBEB3BE79; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:15:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ewWpFxbJ/5FpF70cXV4bLwYcFV1sGf3MDnVC7DjeOTM=; b=jYc55iezAptpaCmSfjXnOl43DEAzChXlfFWbYyBySSBGPzqxS3xDP0+aTGjCqqBQUlV2P7/A3TVVRKngjVMqODC4RjqtJHVqKuQ6vCtKK3ADAcY9payT5pldPxVnglL2VUgHJHJdlN4LpMCVt3FCAMPgzubKULjAtuyYrC/+0Xc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qb26yP0SNyT18gw9D9atJ/fp3O5AUy3iaKGlagNnTwqdPH0/3otORNCWYYZwy4VIK7XvaoCKh1EAEZmH3dpg5ExJaSPknbnO1E8uEefwj/ncOhZm2FJLkxdNJ4yZU2xVJM58xlzvZXDgvcrUS8SVr4L2fgCIyi0YA5T8+YSQMK4= Message-ID: <4759e5740803281115q2fef7ac7x93695b2ce5c06b85@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:15:47 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cd packaging In-Reply-To: <000101c890fd$d58be560$c2011718@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27981_22630888.1206728148028" References: <000101c890fd$d58be560$c2011718@gwdesk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:15:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27981_22630888.1206728148028 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is how my packaging of my first humble EP is designed... although I actually use plain corr cardboard for the mounting. it's taken a LOT of time to do each one... nearly 2.5 minutes from cut to shrink wrap... but you know what? I love it! and I made a few special edition ones with old game boxes, like Backgammon, etc, and a few with odd shapes from Cereal and Pasta Boxes. so hear hear, Ted! great idea, and in fact I got a lot out of your post that I hadn't thought of as well, like TWINE! I bought the shrink wrapping kit, that was a good buy... All Best, Todd On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:02 PM, greg williams wrote: > Ted, > > This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the week. Big Stupid > DIY > ideas in full frontal glory :) > > I laughed so hard reading this I almost spit out my coffee - which would > be > a shame as I am enjoying a very fine blend at the moment. > > Keep 'em coming Ted, > > ~Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: tEd (R) KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] > Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:09 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Cd packaging > > Hi, > > I am going to suggest something a little "outside the box"here. > > First go to: http://www.5inch.com/storage/disc_hubs > > See what's there and think about it for a moment or two. > > Close your eyes and use your imagination. > > Okay, time's up. > > This is only one suggestion out of 100s that you could try. > > Conceivably, you could put one of those self-adhesive hubs on almost > anything that's durable . . but the following scheme will do. > > Your (or your friend, rather) could make something of their own - and > make it "artistic" (and recyclable for that matter too) all at the same > time. > > Take old empty LP sleeves, cereal or detergent boxes, shoe boxes, or > any kind of cardboard material (with the more "vernacular" commercial > print stuff on it, the better, IMOHO). > > Riffle through trash bins behind stores or go to garage sales if you > have to. > > Cut pieces that are essentially 10" wide by 5" tall and NEATLY fold 'em > in half to 5" by 5". > > Adhere hub to interior panel in exact middle of right-hand side. > > Decorate outside with stick-on lettering or Avery adhesive labels you > can design on computer. > > Be hap-hazard. > > You can be tidy and fancy if you want . . . but a little rough and > intentionally tacky is better (trust me). > > Each one will unavoidably be imperfect and unique - but that's totally > A-okay (it should be apparent that this can even be the point in this > little exercise). > > Scribble some personal "doodles" around the hub. > > Be quick . . . doodle . . . but don't dawdle. > > Put your CD on the hub over the "doodles". > > Paste any musical personnel, instrumentation and "thanks to" text on a > pre-printed Avery label on the left hand side. > > Sign your name and the date beneath that on the left-hand side. > > If you have access to such equipment, neatly shrink-wrap the folded > result. > > If you do not, put it in a tuck-n-fold or zip-lock baggy. > > This will all take some effort and time, and of course it will be > "work" but it will also be fun too. > > So enjoy it . . . > > Tie the wrapped result with brown packing twine -- top to bottom and > side to side with a big friendly showlace-type "bow" out front (tight, > but not too tight). > > If you send 100 to 500 of these packages out to radio programmers or > reviewers I GUARANTEE you will get both airplay and reviews (if the > music is good, of course) > > And, if you give the very best ones out to your friends they will each > have a signed original work of post-modern artwork to remember you by. > > This is not a suggestion that has no basis in practical experience. > > A good friend of mine runs a small (but critically well-thought of) > record label. > > This is (essentially in rough form) some of the secret of his success. > > Truth be told, it is also somewhat inspired by some of Dr Eugene > Chadbourne's CD packaging too (which I admire). > > Anyway, the object of packaging is more than just providing a container > for stuff. > > It's to help you get noticed. > > Once you HAVE been noticed it's up to you, your music and the > recipient's own particular tastes. > > BTW, the other part of the this plan (which I unavoidably cannot > provide you) is a GOOD mailing list of 100 to 500 likely recipients. > > That is something equally essential that you are likely only to develop > with connections . . . and luck. > > Good luck > > Best regards, > > Ted Killian > > On Mar 27, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > > Does anyone know of an outlet for unusual CD packaging in limited > > runs? I have a friend looking for something other than the standard > > jewel case/digipak kind of thing and he hasn't been able to any > > sources yet. > > > > Thanks > > > > Kevin > > > > -- > > > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_27981_22630888.1206728148028 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is how my packaging of my first humble EP is designed... although I actually use plain corr cardboard for the mounting.  

it's taken a LOT of time to do each one... nearly 2.5 minutes from cut to shrink wrap... 

but you know what?  I love it!  

and I made a few special edition ones with old game boxes, like Backgammon, etc, and a few with odd shapes from Cereal and Pasta Boxes.

so hear hear, Ted!  great idea, and in fact I got a lot out of your post that I hadn't thought of as well, like TWINE!  

I bought the shrink wrapping kit, that was a good buy...  

All Best,  Todd



On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:02 PM, greg williams <gregorwilliams@comcast.net> wrote:
Ted,

This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the week. Big Stupid DIY
ideas in full frontal glory :)

I laughed so hard reading this I almost spit out my coffee - which would be
a shame as I am enjoying a very fine blend at the moment.

Keep 'em coming Ted,

~Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: tEd ® KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:09 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Cd packaging

Hi,

I am going to suggest something a little "outside the box"here.

First go to: http://www.5inch.com/storage/disc_hubs

See what's there and think about it for a moment or two.

Close your eyes and use your imagination.

Okay, time's up.

This is only one suggestion out of 100s that you could try.

Conceivably, you could put one of those self-adhesive hubs on almost
anything that's durable . . but the following scheme will do.

Your (or your friend, rather) could make something of their own - and
make it "artistic" (and recyclable for that matter too) all at the same
time.

Take old empty LP sleeves, cereal or detergent boxes, shoe boxes, or
any kind of cardboard material (with the more "vernacular" commercial
print stuff on it, the better, IMOHO).

Riffle through trash bins behind stores or go to garage sales if you
have to.

Cut pieces that are essentially 10" wide by 5" tall and NEATLY fold 'em
in half to 5" by 5".

Adhere hub to interior panel in exact middle of right-hand side.

Decorate outside with stick-on lettering or Avery adhesive labels you
can design on computer.

Be hap-hazard.

You can be tidy and fancy if you want . . . but a little rough and
intentionally tacky is better (trust me).

Each one will unavoidably be imperfect and unique - but that's totally
A-okay (it should be apparent that this can even be the point in this
little exercise).

Scribble some personal "doodles" around the hub.

Be quick . . . doodle . . . but don't dawdle.

Put your CD on the hub over the "doodles".

Paste any musical personnel, instrumentation and "thanks to" text on a
pre-printed Avery label on the left hand side.

Sign your name and the date beneath that on the left-hand side.

If you have access to such equipment, neatly shrink-wrap the folded
result.

If you do not, put it in a tuck-n-fold or zip-lock baggy.

This will all take some effort and time, and of course it will be
"work" but it will also be fun too.

So enjoy it . . .

Tie the wrapped result with brown packing twine -- top to bottom and
side to side with a big friendly showlace-type "bow" out front (tight,
but not too tight).

If you send 100 to 500 of these packages out to radio programmers or
reviewers I GUARANTEE you will get both airplay and reviews (if the
music is good, of course)

And, if you give the very best ones out to your friends they will each
have a signed original work of post-modern artwork to remember you by.

This is not a suggestion that has no basis in practical experience.

A good friend of mine runs a small (but critically well-thought of)
record label.

This is (essentially in rough form) some of the secret of his success.

Truth be told, it is also somewhat inspired by some of Dr Eugene
Chadbourne's CD packaging too (which I admire).

Anyway, the object of packaging is more than just providing a container
for stuff.

It's to help you get noticed.

Once you HAVE been noticed it's up to you, your music and the
recipient's own particular tastes.

BTW, the other part of the this plan (which I unavoidably cannot
provide you) is a GOOD mailing list of 100 to 500 likely recipients.

That is something equally essential that you are likely only to develop
with connections . . . and luck.

Good luck

Best regards,

Ted Killian

On Mar 27, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote:

> Does anyone know of an outlet for unusual CD packaging in limited
> runs?  I have a friend looking for something other than the standard
> jewel case/digipak kind of thing and he hasn't been able to any
> sources yet.
>
>  Thanks
>
> Kevin
>
> --
>
> Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
> form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all
> trouble.
>
> - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
>
> Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org




--
http://www.toddreynolds.com |:
http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |:
------------------------------------------------------|:
917.576.6166
todd@toddreynolds.com
toddreyn@gmail.com
------=_Part_27981_22630888.1206728148028-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 18:16:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD173BE91; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zUyK2tl7vu8NJjvsoAUY+1c72y3j1Zli3M7O11WKRZY=; b=BrZXEHBfSToQq98W6AruFbZec+BZ61IW17k6ieZdEb5ZJGBP+JdGQ03CAqV/lrqhyhtfpZqZYKp+PcQNfh6tGSGKw/67LKV3qYH0uRCrshlH1BDN3N1Fe8bT1akX9+OPomFgFyKIBTYGv+SDg4lJIW3rQ7GnShtjaESonQuaY20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MJXFM05ucnVUM5Vkxp669PbjJreC37iuCbSOf6GCHeAh8nxfYM9+GUaG3x1MTINk8sWm3GxGpmztak04Blz0qJiO1xMbCyxJ18MMZmirk8zkbf+xswdOo0jsCeu4aDCaUQ0/gjgVaNzbr3zWLR+PqX9F1xQGxjEVrVxOdUD0X+4= Message-ID: <4759e5740803281116j47bd095dw66e365477e73faa0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:16:38 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cd packaging In-Reply-To: <000101c890fd$d58be560$c2011718@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27990_16731771.1206728199135" References: <000101c890fd$d58be560$c2011718@gwdesk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:16:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27990_16731771.1206728199135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline and then I thought... duh... why didn't I offer up the link? http://cdbaby.com/cd/toddreynolds On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:02 PM, greg williams wrote: > Ted, > > This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the week. Big Stupid > DIY > ideas in full frontal glory :) > > I laughed so hard reading this I almost spit out my coffee - which would > be > a shame as I am enjoying a very fine blend at the moment. > > Keep 'em coming Ted, > > ~Greg > ------=_Part_27990_16731771.1206728199135 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline and then I thought... duh... why didn't I offer up the link?

http://cdbaby.com/cd/toddreynolds




On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:02 PM, greg williams <gregorwilliams@comcast.net> wrote:
Ted,

This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the week. Big Stupid DIY
ideas in full frontal glory :)

I laughed so hard reading this I almost spit out my coffee - which would be
a shame as I am enjoying a very fine blend at the moment.

Keep 'em coming Ted,

~Greg

------=_Part_27990_16731771.1206728199135-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 18:22:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8EDC3BE84; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005101c89100$eaaccd80$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <000101c890fd$d58be560$c2011718@gwdesk> Subject: OT: Cd packaging Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:24:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/q0FHz2AEg7nHyvSIKRCmPRhBF928/uhYNPez r5MkrAoHm31iHMCt1dgnHM584qJvxapM+7p1qGiKaQz6P7oNBp hYsNkNxaD3ZUFWRHp05YnBkqLCo8VwT Resent-Message-ID: <3i0-fB.A.VtE.kdT7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:22:28 +0000 (UTC) i marked this OT, as the whole thread should have beeen, already. YES, i enjoyed the DIY, too! as long as it is such an entertaining read, please OT on... tilmann This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the week. Big Stupid DIY ideas in full frontal glory :) I laughed so hard reading this I almost spit out my coffee - which would be a shame as I am enjoying a very fine blend at the moment. Keep 'em coming Ted, ~Greg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 18:59:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 042683BE89; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=KK11vDkdWyUmTnU7IlnooL8wTs1lowIG1wVrrsFN1aw=; b=FPZ8Y2B7jd/ZdBVLXAo2b6sQkXb6mpNArLIIwZP39ryg22ir/gDkFYgUg4GbJybqGEupsCCbXMB0W2GM0Jq2Oh+iTmePt91Lka3XzdBzji9MAfU1lM2RRqgZemQSoUm9hL2szQZIxiTrQVqiq2RltIcX5aTTLMZwgvNUK7sSX9Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mTm/4Y5O3BXvOKrGq7J/NmqV2u5rAIaQbrFCqtfofmYlk1od4lTWqfpoWkQEG4Y/yxjdlGKKNXPD4FFTl4IrmaiGzHplux0cze3Xltjhq2JLBhicSJkmSav0GA7+z1vmD9mSCdfkKsnV2j9YF5uq7ks64JoRNP7W4yB30zeGKm4= Message-ID: <9e0440a60803281159o5e4a4917xbf33cdadacc07450@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:59:55 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: NY Gig spam - Jim Goodin Monday at 8pm at MUD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4558_21405219.1206730795441" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:59:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4558_21405219.1206730795441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Folks hey... I had a late booking that came yesterday afternoon for a show this Monday evening at 8pm in Manhattan. This is totally an acoustic stripped down no electronics kind of series called Naked Mud Music after the venue that serves it. The Mud is for an upscale coffee/expresso bar. I may be playing totally solo or there is a possibility that my partner in another duo, East of Where , a percussionist/drummer may be joining me. Details follow and come if you are in the area and have time/interest. Naked Mud Music series hosted by Dana McCoy Monday, March 31st, 8pm, Jim Goodin possibly joined by Will Romano Mudspot (famous for its coffee & espresso variations and serves dinners, as well as beer and wine) In the back Garden Room 307 E. 9th St. by 2nd Ave. New York City Cost: $5 food/drink min. Cheers and have a great looping weekend. Jim -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_4558_21405219.1206730795441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Folks hey...
 
I had a late booking that came yesterday afternoon for a show this Monday evening at 8pm in Manhattan.  This is totally an acoustic stripped down no electronics kind of series called Naked Mud Music after the venue that serves it.  The Mud is for an upscale coffee/expresso bar.  I may be playing totally solo or there is a possibility that my partner in another duo, East of Where, a percussionist/drummer may be joining me.  Details follow and come if you are in the area and have time/interest.
 
Naked Mud Music series hosted by Dana McCoy
Monday, March 31st, 8pm, Jim Goodin possibly joined by Will Romano
Mudspot (famous for its coffee & espresso variations and serves dinners, as well as beer and wine)
In the back Garden Room
307 E. 9th St. by 2nd Ave.
New York City
Cost: $5 food/drink min.
 
Cheers and have a great looping weekend.
 
Jim
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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_4558_21405219.1206730795441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 28 19:41:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58CC43BE89; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:41:24 UTC Message-ID: <20080328143442.f1pdml1hus8oog0g@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:34:42 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: LoopersDelight Subject: Any info out about Y2K8 yet? ...and some gig spam :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Hello to my looper friends! Has been a long winter... I had to send my theremin to Moog Music for =20 service and I finally got it back a few days ago. So, I'm behind on =20 my cd project and a few other things I want to do. I'm happy to report that I've been chosen to perform on one of the =20 evening concerts for the Ethermusic festival in Asheville, NC. =20 Ethermusic is the premiere theremin event in the world. I will play a =20 solo set on Thursday, April 24th and about half of my set includes =20 live looping works. http://www.ethermusicfest.com/index.php?option=3Dcom_content&task=3Dview&id= =3D16&Itemid=3D28 One of the highlights of 2007 was the Y2K7 Live Looping festival. I =20 really want to participate in 2008 -- do we have any word on a 2008 =20 festival yet? I heard rumors that it will be in Pittsburgh, PA... if =20 this is true I can drive and bring my surround sound system (five =20 SRM450s and two SWA1501's). Incidentally, I hope to perform my set in Asheville in surround sound =20 -- I'm still working out details with the folks in Asheville. I really really wanted to participate in the Boise EMF -- however I'm =20 still working out logistics for improvisation with the theremin. The theremin is so sensitive to pitch that to operate foot pedals and =20 other equipment is difficult while performing. Thus far, I have used =20 a laptop to manage all of the loop control functions and this approach =20 has forced me into written-out compositions. I have experimented with =20 touch pads and pedals but don't yet feel like I've worked out all the =20 "kinks" well enough to do improvised performances. Stay tuned! ;) I enjoy reading the posts on the LD list. Your comments and ideas =20 provide information and inspiration and I appreciate it. Best wishes to one and all! And please drop in if you are in the =20 Asheville area on April 24th. Sincerely, Kevin http://kevinkissinger.com http://myspace.com/kkissinger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 05:30:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 035583BE7E; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:30:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=WfkNF3Hpe9w9c9z409WPnF4KVuhUyrX3/9iLTcOlWOg=; b=YqkjtNWYzhBU9k3gwBz5bE6jdQ/CchuR02YB+9/3n7ElPxATr5jTs43/JDG/9gvM1DJF+zhUN3MR7I8Jh5G805sO7Gc5SyFbrexU9l6SYDGjhJFxlHd6gDW0zIdDwFxu5ARdvsGzZw2xZo5YK7Nyk44cyE97gXpBBN78nmMNg6E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PutyUW2WW55+ROoktDJEy0FATC+cWA26wmAWcuVpwOvv3+ihWr2pMf1dmkZ7JfrBuuq5+Oyj1ZIEfzCpaDCQ+/V8M/0cRbglzAhOPD89gjcTln3a7870Tx/ExTVJQ6mMkJGLLfk1seaYysCTAO5hzglFIsy3SD7xBDEDoC58tPE= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 06:30:39 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Release Party Invitaiton - new album release! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35459_16727235.1206768639537" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 05:30:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_35459_16727235.1206768639537 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline back to internet life! nice to hear great news like this! need to install some plugins before listening to the soundbites... later on. raul. 2008/3/27, Sjaak : > > > On Mar 24, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > I just want to inform about a new album release by > > the duo Per Boysen & Costas Andreaou. > > > Per and Costas, > I enjoyed the preview. Good work :) > > > Sjaak > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_35459_16727235.1206768639537 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline back to internet life!

nice to hear great news like this!
need to install some plugins before
listening to the soundbites...

later on.

raul.

2008/3/27, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be>:
> On Mar 24, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Per Boysen wrote:

> I just want to inform about a new album release by
> the duo Per Boysen & Costas Andreaou.


Per and Costas,
I enjoyed the preview. Good work :)


Sjaak





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Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_35459_16727235.1206768639537-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 10:28:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD4733BE84; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <013001c89187$a8bf9740$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: Looperlative Linearity Questions Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:28:41 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:28:31 +0000 (UTC) Bob already answered the question about loop linearity on the Looperlative but I also wanted to chime in a little about the use of parts in a looping device. Essentially, the salient reason for creating separate tracks for separate parts in a song form is so that we can then manipulate them after the fact (or treat them with effects in real time, separately). What I find (and I did a show tonight where I played drumset, percussion, found objects, fretless bass, trumpet, melodica, strumstick and voice and in more of a song oriented rather than the more experimental found sound shows that I usually tour with) is that one doesn't usually have time to layer 8 parts onto one section of a song........................ ..........it just takes to long to do so and you begin to lose your audiences attention if you don't create your song structures more quickly. So, by this, what I'm getting at is that, since it is always incumbent upon us (unless we are specifically creating noise types of experimental work) to create parts that are timbrally separated so that the phenomenon of 'timbral masking' doesn't occur, it becomes efficacious to just overdub new instruments onto an existing track and not worry so much about being able to take those parts in an out when we switch from a verse to a chorus section of a tune. So, even if the Looperlative were able to create two sections with 8 separated parts each (which it actually does I suppose since it does create 16 potential mono tracks and clever routing and muting might be able to exploit this fact) you probably aren't going to need that many tracks in creatiing a song. That is, unless you are doing a building song in the manner that Mir O did at the Y2K6 Live Looping Festival. In Mir 0's brilliant approach, his song built and built and built and took almost 30 minutes to perform. If one is performing pop or folk styles of songs, you just want to get your sections created a lot more quickly than that and I'd never want to use 8 separate loops. I'm curious and will start a new thread to poll this: I wonder how many tracks people use in a multi tracking loop situation? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 10:33:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DE573BE88; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Subject: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:33:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:33:32 +0000 (UTC) The loop linearity thread made me think: I've noticed that despite the ability to have 8 stereo tracks in the Looperlative (or to run multiple instances of Mobius, Augusts Loop, or a Max/MSP or Ableton's Live looper) the most loops I ever use in a song are 5 and usually I only use 2 or 3 maximum. I just find that timbral masking occurs if one is constantly trying to add layers to one's compositions. How may loops do we use, I wonder. What are the aesthetic pros and cons of multiple layers of loops? As I pointed out, Mir O brilliantly uses tons of layers of loops but his piece at Y2K6 took up the better part of his 30 minute set. It was really beautiful but this is a fairly unusual instance from my experience hearing hundreds of loopers from different countries. How many loops do us use simultaneously? And why? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 10:49:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA9473BE8C; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=7AnGZoF3QL/zeg5tbAGQss5zfmPdBIxdTDPAgGgH4xA=; b=k1r3ycM+/Pnyps2fXK0zul4PsddyqgOd0kZGrx4qieTsi1PO+ttiJfFm1Ga6MXDhP3D/vT/D0k7EzPoOA/d9AX/DqfQB9LK6V72LHNtyZCg8Taj+ZHk2V6PZUyeyCY/M9ibJcSIUZVLymgSiEd0btAuJ6MoelE1LNO3a5D/VMaA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=oaCv+8omDGj4AfIaXiDLnQ1JSXQTvRFVTUZUwZd7wgO6D7kGDEtLptBC697iSpV01Y1aLTySIcl+GBb2z+gaWPR9blSVsFvlKDQDV69VAp9pmVGRkR1ZY9fjDmsHbydzQUHhyJ0VOItXOjGFf4/antagnP3mG5nab6jGuuWeDzE= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803290349o6b51f046o86d7065051bbf2df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:49:30 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4113_19394590.1206787770082" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 591919c628fcb835 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:49:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4113_19394590.1206787770082 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > How many loops do us use simultaneously? As in "More loops on the EDP???" Then I use 1 loop!! I never switch loops, I almost always just disintegrate the current loop and build it up again. If you mean "multiple loops" as in Looperlative, well I aint got one and will never be able to, but THEN I see it as a bit tiny bit teeny weeny bit like how I use the 4 tracks on the Repeater, as in fill 'em up, and fade between them, changing them as I go... > > And why? > Why??? WHY??? Why not?? Oh... Why.... oh because I never got on with the loop switching in edp, I have more loops set to 2, just in case I feel like it, but never do... just my way I spose. mark -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_4113_19394590.1206787770082 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
How many loops do us use simultaneously?

As in "More loops on the EDP???"
Then I use 1 loop!! I never switch loops, I almost always just disintegrate the current loop and build it up again.
If you mean "multiple loops" as in Looperlative, well I aint got one and will never be able to, but THEN I see it as a bit tiny bit teeny weeny bit like how I use the 4 tracks on the Repeater, as in fill 'em up, and fade between them, changing them as I go...

And why?

Why??? WHY??? Why not?? Oh... Why....  oh because I never got on with the loop switching in edp, I  have more loops set to 2, just in case I feel like it, but never do... just my way I spose.


mark



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www.looop.no ------=_Part_4113_19394590.1206787770082-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 11:17:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74C5D3BE8A; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:17:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TslKVnOyw1FTBoj5hpLDcD/O3m5JQgJCVhUEeuomLnc=; b=Ka8TtbXqesqjWlmfkUGciRkAXAFkGL9c76t0yCeyTNUK1EdpOhok8Mat6R3Aayk9haZU/tMPmPTJj1FcdISWSomHqQ7DNNPIkfO9ZPveUlJgXgox0VBSn7x7IJsLoeCZZHsaVFjZM2nVY2YtBkIOIU/g4OVU3s33GF5F7QEDnTU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GCsdJtS7yiislbNYYaJ48RiS++nRtaMdfF8CnBX9pDGbgcLuyX8CdVa5jH6118VU18yYAXXm8qcctkHtpvKnrFWEGXwl6Z6ocP7MlU5xBb3cnQKU7jFjX5zsj5WvWowwEihiKwxeETMS3xQzdww++uvbntP7F09QilNY5bT/MzQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:16:58 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:17:03 +0000 (UTC) The question always says more about the person than the answer . And it's a good one, Rick. There are days when I think that 16 loops/tracks would not be anywhere NEAR enough. But then, I probably really do take a different approach than most, as I see a loop as an instrument or voice to be used. Do I regularly use that many loops in live performance? Hard to say, because my hardware setup won't allow that kind of direct proliferation. In studio practice, I certainly use that many voices and more. The point about timbral masking is a very good one, and in live practice can be a very tricky one to address. As an artist, isn't it all about coming up with solutions to solve a problem (however prosaic that may sound!)? Best, Dennis On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 6:33 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > The loop linearity thread made me think: > > I've noticed that despite the ability to have > 8 stereo tracks in the Looperlative (or to run > multiple instances of Mobius, Augusts Loop, or a > Max/MSP or Ableton's Live looper) > the most loops I ever use in a song are 5 and > usually I only use 2 or 3 maximum. > > I just find that timbral masking occurs if one is constantly trying > to add layers to one's compositions. > > How may loops do we use, I wonder. > > What are the aesthetic pros and cons of multiple layers of loops? > > As I pointed out, Mir O brilliantly uses tons of layers of loops but > his piece at Y2K6 took up the better part of his 30 minute set. > > It was really beautiful but this is a fairly unusual instance from my > experience > hearing hundreds of loopers from different countries. > > How many loops do us use simultaneously? > And why? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 11:37:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 438E53BE85; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=usX9jpyUftgYSif0fKCsODX1mHe14cNgyFSx5RGEfMc=; b=HubiGgKUPSXtWIDDbNd6XDwQZqAjyoUeqYbNxeVCR6PzsgfvGAZtfsKFyqYlJQMc4a8tx2NkaLVUtrTnGiYO9ODCoDQZ36OIpEK6P7ou4vKZ5qj4XTWcfHIoaMX42QB8wPlhEcCd90iwLmDLkkKKfINkvUpuYmE7PYkWJJYM68Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ljFg05Y/0IBmfTe8E0EuxUPQUwQyj6xcf8EhvWfvoV8vNraRA6KURft3tihMqXKkegWvZTze9fly/fVAKpnnEeYjTcqPUJOmxB0viD8p76/pLy7VXvBTt5JstR9bbqIkb5bXFzivkssKekGUJmb6D2QKC+zMoSK14EWR5vI11Zo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803290437m24b315f5t212f1671aa5a725d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:37:23 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative Linearity Questions In-Reply-To: <013001c89187$a8bf9740$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <013001c89187$a8bf9740$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:37:24 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > ..........it just takes to long to do so and you begin to lose your > audiences attention if you don't create your song structures > more quickly. Exactly my point as well! > I'm curious and will start a new thread to poll this: I wonder how many > tracks people use > in a multi tracking loop situation? The faster I want to build an arrangement, the fewer tracks (as in "parallel instantly sounding multiple loops") I use. And I figure out ways to layer stuff by using Overdub and Multiply to create different song parts in different loops on the same stereo tracks (not possible with the LP1 as I understand it, but I'm an "EDP guy" mostly using Mobius). One particularly fast and convenient setup I think is using two or three tracks. Then my context is to dedicate one track for percussive sounding loops that should not need pitch/rate shifting when going into parts with other chords (or when changing key). Sometimes I also use a dedicated track for bass, because I like the attitude of a bass line staying the same while other parts change chords/key. Finally, the track where I do the chord changes etc: On this track I use two methods. One is to make a new loop for each chord/key. The second, and faster that is my favorite method , is to use Rage/Speed Shifting. This is like when going HalfSpeed on an EDP, but I have a full floor pedal bank that shifts the speed to acquire most needed scale steps (think "moog pedal"). As for the other important factor Rick brought up, the issue of "Timbral Masking", I use a combination of four ways of staying clear from problems: 1. Orchestrating (choosing instruments that fit together). 2. Performance (playing my instrument differently at different layers so the musical parts will sound different in a way that I think they fit in better) 3. "Reverse Engineered Mixing" attitude. I play my instrument through 20 alternative effect chains that are carefully designed to shape the sound in a way that makes it fit well together with a sound played though another of these 20 patches. I think about my patches as if you solo a track in a mix - it may sound "thin", "sharp", "muddy" as such, but will add something nice when put to work in a full mix. Of course, not all patches go well together, but I know them all and can go for the right one in a blink as soon as I hear what already is there in the loop. 4. Looping techniques. Wont's bother you with everything, but one particularly useful trick is to set up your looper to create a "pocket" in the old layer at the place where you Overdub or Substitue new audio into a loop. This is the old disco music studio production trick from the seventies, where you typically used a compressor on the bass to duck the signal side-chained from the kick drum (kick and base being a good example of two "timbrally masking" instruments). With Mobius this is easily achieved by keeping a fader assigned to the Secondary Feedback. In SooperLooper there is a direct tic box for it in the GUI. The EDP has it too, when you plug a pedal, or dummy plug, into the pedal jack on the rear panel. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 11:47:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B1323BE81; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:47:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=WH3swWKb+1lOxCSFKg7YJuhhbwXBTLiLSfIzkOzh26Y=; b=E0AiGo2RMnWSXFpQYHI8dd9M6jG4vaFPs/HSt0BFnhjNQFvGv+ilSuNAjWlnrL6E557V9eQvSJ8fHaHAQ6TOvQw+BJiXW18D7ARrFjD2M786FhwaojrIMGzmI1PDQQvqUBqLJqlr22hQpZpv6ApVKIbRa8aQaOXO1XwKbDnLr6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=IH4N0I6IPfspCBol5s4MKdvphDD8Nm5QzHYxLpjcYq64tAQROwUJw8IRT4aS4fR0fyeRLLbWnshEfG4bS78DGcuw5umuU37/emWNmm4I9xItgFP2mStONoTuCSBcYkHiLJAmQvwK5GAzbnrerLY1Juh8EHSTMo5TfejgjfamOno= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803290447u5f3da5b7ud1db03f0b7a4315c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:47:14 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative Linearity Questions In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803290437m24b315f5t212f1671aa5a725d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4266_29888394.1206791234950" References: <013001c89187$a8bf9740$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <66f9cc1e0803290437m24b315f5t212f1671aa5a725d@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4da0dfb0b96b80bd Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:47:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4266_29888394.1206791234950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >The EDP has >it too, when you plug a pedal, or dummy plug, into the pedal jack on >the rear panel. Yeah what WAS that again...?? I remember this hint from before I actually had one... what dos it do precisely??? Mark ------=_Part_4266_29888394.1206791234950 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
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Yeah what WAS that again...?? I remember this hint from before I actually had one... what dos it do precisely???

Mark
------=_Part_4266_29888394.1206791234950-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 11:53:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFC583BE85; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvMAAD/K7UdPStCS/2dsb2JhbAAIqheCLg Message-ID: <47EE2DAC.4030800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:53:16 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY?(andy) References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > How many loops do us use simultaneously? > And why? > Interesting question with a number of sides to it. here's my individual take it 1) multiple loops versus layering. A lot of people seem to feel the need to record different musical layers onto different loops. Apart from the possibilities of post processing this also has the advantage that different musical layers can be muted, then restored as desired. Also it's possible to get an accurate mix. (plus, some folks prefer unsynced layers) With the EDP, there's only one loop heard at a time, so I solve those "problems" in the following way a) An accurate mix is achieved simply by playing the layer at the right volume...just a matter of instrumental technique, ...and practice. b) muting out layers isn't so simple, it's possible to keep a copy of the loop before the overdubs were made and return to it later...or use Undo. (the EDP is not so flexible for this sort of thing) c)Additional unsynced loops can only be achieved by adding another looping device, I've been experimenting with putting the old JamMan in the rig. 2) Timbral masking isn't a problem for harmony parts, or if the sounds don't coincide time-wise, so I probably get up to 6 layers fairly regularly, but like Rick I don't go for the big build up. ..and if using feedback to make a continuously evolving loop I'm likely to drop the feedback to 0% and just have 2 layers. 3) EDP specifics: I generally have MoreLoops = 2. ( which in English means that there are 2 loops available to play and build up layers, but only one can be heard at a time). Often I create a basic loop1, then copy it to loop2 for modification, returning to loop1 every so often to make a kind of "theme and variations" type effect. I also use 2 contrasting loops quite a lot, and switch between them, but I find that easier with composed pieces rather than improv. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 11:54:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 315843BE81; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:54:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jObyEV2C62FSEoWcO9+a2axnw0YElPiWf5ry7sotTsw=; b=QkIhMpj6Rt1pnzLw4MUNtgp3BCvEBLgcwDDnQfk2JUydcE4NxrZu6ZIeUzNiDGWUadK7A47P6M3WTjy0PnbzqKuC73jxmKcMEUi6JZllbUGV91Wez/rFFFDwkbxvrqr9isuosFWgOlY7T082YGklGRKOl1LAt5mfxrW45yZ3x7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CL6NaMw8OEZAJPev/EDq7LBEDZYYxNImpHQKxY4sQJDO1KTdFEGPr5zcwYOXTjRsN+AQwrgrvK4xh/WR0PE4g0FqQYONUuO01VVNtie3Wi5drOgSg0OkAGVvyR9oCHGdXbvVsEnTPbY3WrKPyzfIkDxgqqh9fEJohyh9mqRZpdY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803290454re3f1a9dhdffde2a6e29b5a61@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:54:44 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: <5_R4XD.A.BbB.F4i7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:54:45 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > The loop linearity thread made me think: > How many loops do us use simultaneously? > And why? Eight stereo loops at most. The reason for that I like the sound of multiple loops when the loops are of different lengths and also get rate/speed shifted in real-time to instantly create new poly rhythms and sound shape colors. Having said this, I want to repeat here what I said in my LInearity Thread post: It's really slow to work many loops in a performance, so it kind of fits better with music that is complex in sound but not in the scoring/compositional department. What I often do, when using five to eight simultaneous loops is to overdub/substitute into many of them at the same time (having them set up to loop back that audio differently, as described above). -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 11:59:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 608083BE90; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:59:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=U7H7U0NSqpuhpdbR9Gzt7qjg0u5m/UZqXReTB4XDyWE=; b=YMjxRugrIAI98wIpgRjdpLYCWm+q3pSjZ+qQ7rM+MUtjFA7nk9LQNkfD6UqubrTUv8EyrfRLMqw2IYyB/XCtmYgltLI2lzAV3Q0DHDfaNDaoRjymzmOuAqQ4xaTbpl7Mdt/uTYoTRsGICNRlJB1lUVZfDTE2CKi1lunSlSRlf7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ln3jRutKwmMkKvbqcUMWUwfbjs1B58zdMeVh9LG7tt2MP09wvcVJyQXQxP0a9xIEr3CVD/g3Pgk3dHpOH2aHvOkEta1B2emuncjj3rKUsxxkfyT7ZopZu5VtXzl61o8Mik4p0FXxM2UXE3cL1XeW9YoN1g1YEMXnlbYvF8+fl3c= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803290459q7a100e83oaedc73993927e6c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:59:13 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looperlative Linearity Questions In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0803290447u5f3da5b7ud1db03f0b7a4315c@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <013001c89187$a8bf9740$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <66f9cc1e0803290437m24b315f5t212f1671aa5a725d@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0803290447u5f3da5b7ud1db03f0b7a4315c@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:59:14 +0000 (UTC) > >The EDP has > >it too, when you plug a pedal, or dummy plug, into the pedal jack on > >the rear panel. On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 12:47 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Yeah what WAS that again...?? I remember this hint from before I actually > had one... what dos it do precisely??? It kicks the EDP into working according to one of those alternative interface modes. It's well described in the manual. I don't have my EDP by me right now, since I lent it to a friend, but if my memory serves me correctly one such mode is called "Replace Mode". That's the one I prefer with the EDP, I think there are about three or four more. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 14:00:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2DBF3BE86; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:00:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gSdCr9sJLXGdH23agzHY2mDie2KwCfPFKNwfIVJ8DeQ=; b=XeAJaHGleVj/Q6xh5AhfPu1FxJHFL/xzV2Q/DibN3j6P6yA/DV6h5z2ZN4DYEOd+zjhMCZm72jeoovx7r85wUt8l2FHtXsttSm8C5CP9z1OyHX0UK6UNSoy+9rt7JnkxvKZE//03YJ7qh+HlQhtzlJVi1M+89oYR7+3vPckkqKQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NltctKD1H50a1c50dycrbpLtvKSjvUInNboBILwdzuj2JE7FP0VRkQzcssKpIbHdH/UkNZFd26ZS8r+sVU6kufv4QLTmurg1Mj41Kg2gZFNxHh+TbjQw5DHNOm5UZxhB7WN6H6CPrxUst5sxsj/kn/EYlwniykvoGyBzgz2Mqz8= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:00:55 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33747_27897768.1206799255353" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:00:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33747_27897768.1206799255353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use an EDP, and the bulk of my looping is with either two or three loops. I have one piece which uses specifically four. I also play acoustic guitar without any effects processing except for some reverb, so there's only so much sonic "room" available to me. My pieces are also typically around 3-8 minutes long and of a conventional "song" format (verse/chorus/bridge etc.) so all of those things seem to keep me in the three loop realm. However, judicious use of Undo to thin out loops or on-the-fly re-recording of a new loop can make it seem like more loops are being used. The EDP design does sort of force you into choosing though, since the number of loops is defined at the beginning. If MoreLoops is set to two, and you get an idea for something that needs four after you've started, you're out of luck. It's also difficult for me (and most people, I suspect) to manage more than three or four loops, particularly when using a MIDI controller as limited as the FCB. I can imagine a scenario where I had six or eight loops, where there were A and B versions of three or four loops, but I haven't been able to figure out an effective UI for the FCB to control it all. TH On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > I just find that timbral masking occurs if one is constantly trying > to add layers to one's compositions. > > How may loops do we use, I wonder. > > What are the aesthetic pros and cons of multiple layers of loops? > > > How many loops do us use simultaneously? > And why? > > ------=_Part_33747_27897768.1206799255353 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use an EDP, and the bulk of my looping is with either two or three loops.  I have one piece which uses specifically four.  I also play acoustic guitar without any effects processing except for some reverb, so there's only so much sonic "room" available to me.  My pieces are also typically around 3-8 minutes long and of a conventional "song" format (verse/chorus/bridge etc.) so all of those things seem to keep me in the three loop realm.  However, judicious use of Undo to thin out loops or on-the-fly re-recording of a new loop can make it seem like more loops are being used.

The EDP design does sort of force you into choosing though, since the number of loops is defined at the beginning.  If MoreLoops is set to two, and you get an idea for something that needs four after you've started, you're out of luck.  It's also difficult for me (and most people, I suspect) to manage more than three or four loops, particularly when using a MIDI controller as limited as the FCB.  I can imagine a scenario where I had six or eight loops, where there were A and B versions of three or four loops, but I haven't been able to figure out an effective UI for the FCB to control it all.

TH

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:


I just find that timbral masking occurs if one is constantly trying
to add layers to one's compositions.

How may loops do we use,  I wonder.

What are the aesthetic pros and cons of multiple layers of loops?


How many loops do us use simultaneously?
And why?


------=_Part_33747_27897768.1206799255353-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 15:02:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49CE53BE8D; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KR440PhKjWB8QcWL3fHL2ImntFVFwVt0T3GCqf13ZhI=; b=It3u2S08XgA5bGrMX43qp3foqmkRc333QnBbw1k/svXYMaTAp1QlIxR3LZ0+PWPds2eHvzxsM2c41pJw7NMw2vzS1DIGH+sd18QVykhp9GRs+nuf0crgsf4e7+77ojPtgCFuPl4XrfPWvBFl2vkknMDoRRoeT4fCk2EdwDksUt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=V+LerOfxZuXCS3KIxEQwd0jJF4rGNFHVvRA45BB4DiD6ZFiG4j9jopJ/l2vBCnl5qu2v3XZ6DjU6l5Bndr4A9U25p3B668WgXNDMRnjGU0aCmwga4ngPDMgnS/7RpnHN6WjWjDjxuAq6fgnOQDlVt6RVtYVJrut0YqJmj8GrpqY= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:02:09 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_36550_3420026.1206802929223" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:02:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_36550_3420026.1206802929223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline for solo set, mobius+macbook (not pro!) = 4. for jamming/band, EDP = 1. considering simultaneous loops, ... err.. layering? both approaches. raul. 2008/3/29, Travis Hartnett : > > I use an EDP, and the bulk of my looping is with either two or three > loops. I have one piece which uses specifically four. I also play acoustic > guitar without any effects processing except for some reverb, so there's > only so much sonic "room" available to me. My pieces are also typically > around 3-8 minutes long and of a conventional "song" format > (verse/chorus/bridge etc.) so all of those things seem to keep me in the > three loop realm. However, judicious use of Undo to thin out loops or > on-the-fly re-recording of a new loop can make it seem like more loops are > being used. > > The EDP design does sort of force you into choosing though, since the > number of loops is defined at the beginning. If MoreLoops is set to two, > and you get an idea for something that needs four after you've started, > you're out of luck. It's also difficult for me (and most people, I suspect) > to manage more than three or four loops, particularly when using a MIDI > controller as limited as the FCB. I can imagine a scenario where I had six > or eight loops, where there were A and B versions of three or four loops, > but I haven't been able to figure out an effective UI for the FCB to control > it all. > > TH > > On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > > > > > > > I just find that timbral masking occurs if one is constantly trying > > to add layers to one's compositions. > > > > How may loops do we use, I wonder. > > > > What are the aesthetic pros and cons of multiple layers of loops? > > > > > > How many loops do us use simultaneously? > > And why? > > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_36550_3420026.1206802929223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline for solo set, mobius+macbook (not pro!) = 4.
for jamming/band, EDP = 1.

considering simultaneous loops,
... err.. layering?

both approaches.

raul.

2008/3/29, Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>:
I use an EDP, and the bulk of my looping is with either two or three loops.  I have one piece which uses specifically four.  I also play acoustic guitar without any effects processing except for some reverb, so there's only so much sonic "room" available to me.  My pieces are also typically around 3-8 minutes long and of a conventional "song" format (verse/chorus/bridge etc.) so all of those things seem to keep me in the three loop realm.  However, judicious use of Undo to thin out loops or on-the-fly re-recording of a new loop can make it seem like more loops are being used.

The EDP design does sort of force you into choosing though, since the number of loops is defined at the beginning.  If MoreLoops is set to two, and you get an idea for something that needs four after you've started, you're out of luck.  It's also difficult for me (and most people, I suspect) to manage more than three or four loops, particularly when using a MIDI controller as limited as the FCB.  I can imagine a scenario where I had six or eight loops, where there were A and B versions of three or four loops, but I haven't been able to figure out an effective UI for the FCB to control it all.

TH

On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:


I just find that timbral masking occurs if one is constantly trying
to add layers to one's compositions.

How may loops do we use,  I wonder.

What are the aesthetic pros and cons of multiple layers of loops?


 How many loops do us use simultaneously?
And why?





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------=_Part_29086_6148718.1206803244152-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 15:10:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAAD33BE89; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yeK8Nyr1nPPa/5KpfnMQoo28VG7THcDWRoSdYpzDBBc=; b=gS0o899oOK05ZK22QJ0Luaf66d/9IguVkjrK8EuagOu953/DdyebxvsJiy+mNs20Aw2AXS1f2sjG92xPxTrfh7UJwlUfmV8qS7MBUf5R4y9L61c3fGImerimALHn6s77SxlsBEVJ1HuXiezvnEofiP0C+jzjnnrSyGf35/Ey+CE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ak4rFPXL62E+ZWOTFrLTNwz1srzPPWAqFTd5Wg1hYDruIoWj4it4C60+uK9CvqXN+FKBbSVfsx57w9I7jl8WIE6MDUJKoRBk6aAT6Ly5rzgiTjO/CbgTAW+agz9ikg2zZ67avvHg37PkIfRMmOrS9txg1dSceiI+w2W6kIoB0f4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:10:02 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_34841_17567511.1206803402682" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:10:04 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_34841_17567511.1206803402682 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use a maximum of 3 separate loops in a song. I don't usually overdub except on "Stolen Moments" where I put down a bass-drums track, then overdub 4 single-note guitar parts on it. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_34841_17567511.1206803402682 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I use a maximum of 3 separate loops in a song. I don't usually overdub except on "Stolen Moments" where I put down a bass-drums track, then overdub 4 single-note guitar parts on it.

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http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_34841_17567511.1206803402682-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 15:26:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC7563BEA0; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1237 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:26:00 UTC From: eterogeneo Reply-to: eterogeneo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:04:51 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Nice question, Rick. As evidenced by Per, working with a lot of simultaneously loops makes the compositional process too slow for a live performance. What i am actually using are 2-4 tracks playing simultaneously. With Mobius i tend to record on track1/loop1 the basic cluster of my composition and then switch-overdub to loop2 to add a variation (it can be just a simple reverse/half speed) and so on on loop3 and sometimes on loop4. All in track 1. Then i move to record-overdub-substitute on the other tracks, mantaining in every moment the opportunty to change the basic cluster switching loops on track1. Frequently, on track2 i have a multiplied loop of that's playing on tr.1 that does structure the composition. On tr.3 I hardly use feedback to continously change what i'm playing, switching sometimes on tr.2 to mofify that one too. Tr.4 is my unsynched and unquantized track i use for recording soundscapes, effects tails or strange sounds that i want to stay out of synch. To avoid the timbral masking, i have different pan settings on each track, so each loop timbral can be clearly perceived. Fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 15:26:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4837A3BEB6; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 734 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:26:01 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <5F3F1867-3218-4517-A852-456D77916428@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Beth Bahia Cohen Subject: emergency need for Echoplex Digital Pro loan in Minneapolis! Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:13:19 -0500 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: <3sE7kB.A.VCG.K-l7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:26:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I'm performing tonight and tomorrow night (Saturday and Sunday) at the Southern Theater in Minneapolis with a dance company and I have a solo piece during the show in which I use my Echoplex Digital Pro. Last night at sound check, my echoplex stopped working. (earlier in the week, when I turned the output knob, there was a lot of static....during the sound check, there was a loud pop, and the output channel stopped working.) I'm wondering if there's anyone in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area who has an EDP that I can borrow or rent for these two performances. It would be greatly appreciated! (or any recommendations for where I can get it repaired today....) thanks.....Beth Bahia Cohen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 15:35:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6A3E3BE88; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:35:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:36:23 EDT Subject: Re: Any info out about Y2K8 yet? ...and some gig spam :) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cec.2dcb8565.351fbbf7_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <85MJdB.A.PSG.0Gm7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:35:16 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cec.2dcb8565.351fbbf7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 3/28/08 3:41:52 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com writes: > do we have any word on a 2008=A0 > festival yet?=A0 I heard rumors that it will be in Pittsburgh, PA >=20 i'm afraid this is not true.....sorry.....michael "one man, one oat!" 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Copyright © 2008 eB From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 15:44:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 589843BE84; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=19qwYXC5s5nQVEG3UkKIcjo+t09+LVb23hnjVvY3qC8=; b=PEJwj78PCVDV4NnA/j3gk9kSRpvU6V6R12fF4kcX/WPZNPLyyewdb1FDdbwVDr6lAaq3Io28E23nkGl1O7hV33pwHjGoA91zBAdAjHJZ8yb75hbNLz75g7jqtlRIb6m6EWWvnR6Ztt2SIz6sVQcp+mIeuHGH/ERhNQY4EhTg+1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=a7iLUSAzzc+icIgwXrajEKc1REe6T697Jl9jr7b+Y0Yd/1WSjslP1Z+NzgyMkKzS+X3wWGsKMAtjXfztg+Sm9g+9lUxEfQDnUvRkH6Lek3jZVjxXZDcZB3mud7EwYqn/LQSXAk764ZDyTuPulg9Ojg29s3zjxEgjwejtD6hxFCE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:44:07 -0400 From: "Neil Leonard" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fwd: TONIGHT: STEVE LEHMAN - 1 HOUR SOLO CONCERT! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:44:08 +0000 (UTC) GASP Gallery Presents: Friday, March 14th @ 8:00 pm STEVE LEHMAN =96 solo saxophone/live electronics "[STEVE LEHMAN] does a solo show as part of the cool "Sonic Arts" music series at of the area's coolest gallery/performances spaces, GASP." - The Boston Phoenix $10 suggested donation, $6 with a student ID GASP Gallery 362-4 Boylston St., Brookline, MA 617.418.4308 info@g-a-s-p.net GASP is one block from the Brookline Hills stop on the MBTA 'D' Riverside = line. Read The New York Times review: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/17/arts/music/17choi.html "Probing the furthest frontiers of rhythm science, alto saxophonist Steve Lehman represents some of the most advanced compositional thinking in jazz today. A child of the avant-garde, he's a former student and bandmate of Anthony Braxton and a member of Fieldwork, the collaborative trio with piano visionary Vijay Iyer. Lehman's 2005 outing Demian as Posthuman, featuring Meshell Ndegeocello, is a study in splintered soundscapes and mind-altering beats." -Philadelphia Weekly Named a Rising Star on the alto saxophone in 2006 and 2007 by the Downbeat Magazine International Critics Poll, STEVE LEHMAN is a saxophonist and composer whose work resides on the cutting-edge of contemporary music. He has been recognized as one of today's truly original creative voices by The Wire, The New York Times, The Village Voice, and by National Public Radio. A former student of both Jackie McLean and Anthony Braxton, he has performed and recorded throughout the United States and Europe with his own ensembles, and with those led by Anthony Braxton, Dave Burrell, Mark Dresser, Vijay Iyer, Oliver Lake, and Meshell Ndegeocello. Lehman's pieces for large orchestra and chamber ensembles have been performed by the Janacek Philharmonic, members of Ensemble 21 and Ensemble Sospeso, and by the pianist Marilyn Nonken. Lehman's recent electro-acoustic music has focused on the development of computer-driven models for improvisation using Max/MSP. Lehman is a doctoral candidate in Music Composition at Columbia University. Lehman's recordings as a leader include On Meaning (Pi 2007) and Demian as Posthuman (Pi 2005), featuring 9-time Grammy nominee Meshell Ndegeocello. VOTE!!! GASP HAS BEEN NOMINATED FOR A BOSTON PHOENIX BEST AWARD! FOLLOW THIS LINK TO VOTE FOR US! http://www397.pair.com/gasp1/index.html LINKS: http://www.stevelehman.com/ http://www.myspace.com/sonicartsatgasp http://gaspsound.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 15:59:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B11E3BEA0; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1Ca6yidvgnDt5KUQNfqQG3Fv9ovJ37FWZQ2bL7ebarY=; b=dvw1mhJ2mNP0UeGr0XFwdqedR5AULQn2q/Qc0V5mEYb2FZlzIKE1eNHw1n/CcyzZe9kCCuPjJPG5XhyV4mRCSGCuq2IVzUCeZ5QfhUrCaZWHLbfIoNwnkOAqh3rZEFd1ATyqvPIVumdDUInBBDuQqPYiQ9XpD8X7l7EkuglrFTA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cp94G+yx4zLHdc+M6LX604viCltGK9BBQk0kNy/NOa+LboAoe26YumGkEg5WvI6HgqV4+NzXzTV11QSF7F9/ZCfaVHO9rw6R1bOjBPITR0fd7W17QlSTsjRN04uGX7AGDAmzph3//0+NmecSI1XdNraLdDtpxKZE/TUcDwviDeE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:59:14 -0500 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) In-Reply-To: <47DA33EA.4050208@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> <47DA33EA.4050208@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <1PWNAB.A.MbF.VDq2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:59:17 +0000 (UTC) I use a TriggerFinger with Mobius, which is much like using one with an EDP. Off the top of my head, I don't think you can program the TF to send a note on without sending a note off at release. But I'm wondering why you would want to do that with an EDP? If you send a note on without a subsequent note off, you are creating a "long press" on the EDP for that function. As you mention, you can achieve the same thing by pressing and holding a TF pad. The note off is then sent when you release the pad. Generally, you want to send note on + note off to the EDP to activate functions normally. For instance, if you send a note on mapped to the Record function without a subsequent note off, you get a long press of Record, which is a Reset. You many know this, but I wanted to be clear. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 16:12:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B292F3BE98; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:12:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=myG3NZKMi219+vGT9rjSeRlkRvs9kTmx4T6HLwtOXPkhFG9I9WggQsRbm6CRGK1iOTpwqGKfs684N3dxZJ8IAn4PV212ERTjnNtqNF69uFL8cxG7UNIAaQNzaIzsgtU0lBZC/K4+0go8ZqMlcc030DF4FSODtTyhWGdXubVfoMs=; X-YMail-OSG: ObI3RwQVM1mt8NLndXOtaNMblb2d1Ua.JpGGrKSuUh5M3EHjshK5avyFCBXPQiFkOcA2kTedRDnmnyaspGVoXc1f405FOneOx_NUma.kqKJwZ7.EmdMHOCsK.SBI1g-- Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: scott hansen Subject: 1st impression: BOSS RC-20 /state of looping NOW To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080314154408.DB6813BE91@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1746239449-1205511119=:36648" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <287578.36648.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:12:00 +0000 (UTC) --0-1746239449-1205511119=:36648 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit wow-the amt of reading i've done in the last few days about the gear that's coming out...whew.....(and i cant' wait to see how much these things cost, and read people's reviews of the gear!) god, i remember when i joined back in '01, there didn't seem to be many options for looping (especially for me on a budget), but now the amt of products that are out or coming out, pretty unreal. well, yesterday as a late bday present for myself, i bought a used Boss RC-20-the original model off some listing on the tapeop.com page. only got to play w/ it for an hour last night...At first i read the manual on recording a loop, and i couldn't get it to work, so my first thought was: ITS BROKEN, ug....then i read more and figure out i had the mode button in the wrong place, got that figured out and hey i made my 1st loop on it. the funny thing i found after thinking about it was -if i recorded myself playing w/ it, i would be dubbed the dumbest looper around. i swear i was listening to the loop trying to figure out what to add next, seemed like i sat there for 1/2 hr. oh well. (i also thouht the sound quality is very good-what goes in ,goes out) the thing for me that i like is that to start a loop you just press button and you don't have to hold the pedal down, which i thought i may have to do, since i keep all my pedals at hands reach, then to stop it you press again. so i like that feature. and to over dub was the same. so i'm happy about that. the other thing about it that is new for me is the move away from delay based looping that i've used for the last 8 yrs. so i hit it and didn't have to worry about 2 sec or 4 sec or 5 sec or 12 or 23 sec. i just hit it played a bit, hit it again. my loop wasn't that long (probably 10-12 sec), but it just seemed to be a different mentality than what i'm used to. boy i also love the reverse. Most fun-for some great sonic experimenting (missed that from my dod d12 sampler). my only knock/gripe so far is the way you manipulate the tempo/speed. so far my attempts at that have not been very good-probably have to read more. my only wish is it had a big turnable knob that had SPEED/TEMPO/PITCH (whatever) so you could slow it down or speed it up. but that seems to be on the new slicer pedal, so maybe i'll have to wait (or get the EH-stereo memory man w/ hazarai-since that had that function which seemed most logical to me). over all-i'm pretty happy w/ it-i think there will be hours of experimenting ahead w/ it. the one other thing i know people complained about the unit was the limited 5 & 1/2 min for recording time. for me when i've been used to 2 sec to 23 sec for looping time, 5 1/2 min seems like FO-ever...not a problem for me. happy looping.... s---- www.myspace.com/scotthansen --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1746239449-1205511119=:36648 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit wow-the amt of reading i've done in the last few days about the gear that's coming out...whew.....(and i cant' wait to see how much these things cost, and read people's reviews of the gear!)
god, i remember when i joined back in '01, there didn't seem to be many options for looping (especially for me on a budget), but now the amt of products that are out or coming out, pretty unreal.

well, yesterday as a late bday present for myself, i bought a used Boss RC-20-the original model off some listing on the tapeop.com page. only got to play w/ it for an hour last night...At first i read the manual on recording a loop, and i couldn't get it to work, so my first thought was: ITS BROKEN, ug....then i read more and figure out i had the mode button in the wrong place, got that figured out and hey i made my 1st loop on it.

the funny thing i found after thinking about it was -if i recorded myself playing w/ it, i would be dubbed the dumbest looper around. i swear i was listening to the loop trying to figure out what to add next, seemed like i sat there for 1/2 hr. oh well. (i also thouht the sound quality is very good-what goes in ,goes out)

the thing for me that i like is that to start a loop you just press button and you don't have to hold the pedal down, which i thought i may have to do, since i keep all my pedals at hands reach, then to stop it you press again. so i like that feature. and to over dub was the same. so i'm happy about that.
the other thing about it that is new for me is the move away from delay based looping that i've used for the last 8 yrs. so i hit it and didn't have to worry about 2 sec or 4 sec or 5 sec or 12 or 23 sec. i just hit it played a bit, hit it again. my loop wasn't that long (probably 10-12 sec), but it just seemed to be a different mentality than what i'm used to. boy i also love the reverse. Most fun-for some great sonic experimenting (missed that from my dod d12 sampler).
my only knock/gripe so far is the way you manipulate the tempo/speed. so far my attempts at that have not been very good-probably have to read more. my only wish is it had a big turnable knob that had SPEED/TEMPO/PITCH (whatever) so you could slow it down or speed it up. but that seems to be on the new slicer pedal, so maybe i'll have to wait (or get the EH-stereo memory man w/ hazarai-since that had that function which seemed most logical to me).
over all-i'm pretty happy w/ it-i think there will be hours of experimenting ahead w/ it.
the one other thing i know people complained about the unit was the limited 5 & 1/2 min for recording time. for me when i've been used to 2 sec to 23 sec for looping time, 5 1/2 min seems like FO-ever...not a problem for me.
happy looping....
s----
www.myspace.com/scotthansen

Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --0-1746239449-1205511119=:36648-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 16:27:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A01883BEAE; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 724 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:27:55 UTC X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C885EE.AE25ADDA" Subject: RE: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #181 Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:15:48 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD082306CAFB30@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <20080314154408.ECF8B3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V08 #181 Thread-Index: AciF6kSYd7CcK1tMQtSRzdb2ngsBKAAA+rWw References: <20080314154408.ECF8B3BE93@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Mar 2008 16:15:55.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE88F120:01C885EE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:27:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C885EE.AE25ADDA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just ordered at same price from Music123, where they have these in stock. =20 http://www.music123.com/Gibson-TGE-05-Echoplex-Digital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE- 04-Footswitch-150497-i1389 =20 Hal Dean =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C885EE.AE25ADDA Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I just ordered at = same price from Music123, where they have these in stock.

 

http://www.music123.com/Gibson-TGE-05-Echoplex-Di= gital-Pro-Plus-and-TGE-04-Footswitch-150497-i1389

 

Hal Dean

 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C885EE.AE25ADDA-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 17:16:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30CC63BE99; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <28B67E5E-FDBF-4CD7-B0C6-19FF0AD2FE51@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <287578.36648.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6--425474617 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: 1st impression: BOSS RC-20 /state of looping NOW Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:16:31 -0600 References: <287578.36648.qm@web33104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:16:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6--425474617 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "the funny thing i found after thinking about it was -if i recorded myself playing w/ it, i would be dubbed the dumbest looper around. i swear i was listening to the loop trying to figure out what to add next, seemed like i sat there for 1/2 hr. oh well. (i" Scott, I thought the story of your first loop was great. Made me laugh out loud. Thanks for being open enough to share it. Made a great visual image in my head.....and the thought of panic that would set it after a while ..."oh no, now what do I do..." Keep at it, may great loops visit your dreams, John Floridis --Apple-Mail-6--425474617 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
"the funny thing i found after thinking about it was -if i recorded myself playing w/ it, i would be dubbed the dumbest looper around. i swear i was listening to the loop trying to figure out what to add next, seemed like i sat there for 1/2 hr. oh well. (i"

Scott, I thought the story of your first loop was great.  Made me laugh out loud.  Thanks for being open enough to share it.  Made a great visual image in my head.....and the thought of panic that would set it after a while ..."oh no, now what do I do..."

Keep at it, may great loops visit your dreams,

John Floridis
--Apple-Mail-6--425474617-- From karlnewem@centrum.cz Fri Mar 14 17:22:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 8345 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:22:03 UTC Received: from mail1011.centrum.cz (mail1011.centrum.cz [213.29.7.122]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01253BE8B; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail1011.centrum.cz id S537196301AbYCNMuk (ORCPT + 1 other); Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:50:40 +0100 Received: from 196.201.74.122 by mail1011.centrum.cz (Centrum Mail) with HTTP Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:50:40 +0100 From: X-Mailer: Centrum Mail 1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <200803141350.3632@centrum.cz> Subject: Dear Friend, Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input) Dear Friend, First of all,I want to let you know that this is not a scam mail.Because based on what is going on all over the internet world,people find it very difficult to believe things like this any more.If you can guarantee me from your own side,your trust,honestly I will be able to work with you.I will appreciate if you can come down and see things for yourself before we proceed and this will make things clearer for you. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 17:30:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83F9C3BEA9; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:30:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PBMTg2S3HaMpY9xEnmKzks9N4boDcoPpApPqDd7KK8g=; b=sMCLwbHM4061xLsEiRBj91RfACPBRtjHjwoaYZl3hM13+9Xm8DskxSMSMNHUyfRQTael/UTnMZS7Xku65GE+nYjnu2ikizJ4c6JSgXzVkqe38kZnheseMOr5YvRSTcZynv0+KFzUVEO4i0V2wUkcddApX/94TsZnHmuJU7Bvw1U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=O6oblQoSa7VhmEfh7/mGiO7uIfGDcATFsW5+zaep402n7CEn7U+QSlNfB4EroVT92fUZIfCJcKt2x0jgJ7iabTjDDKLdaqcDCX+QF+dGF7QlRUNDtJJKCKve6MsFiGN1J22A7i9gqozBZAuFnQ/9H3LDd6w+9TXJ+UFCsgp4qvI= Message-ID: <8c82d1660803141030y65da9db4i64e70fee2f0b0cc9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:30:14 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_480_21872491.1205515814097" References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> <47DA33EA.4050208@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <2hHol.A.ooB.oYr2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:30:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_480_21872491.1205515814097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Good question Doug. I have 8 pads set up to trigger loops 1 through 8. I would like to be able to hit the same pad several times in a row (like a stutter) and then the last time let it continue to loop. Option one is to set the pad to "toggle", where the first time you hit it, it starts to play, and the second time, it stops playing; therefore that doesn't work so great for the stuttering. Option two is for note on/ and a note off when the pad is released. This works better, but obviously the loop stops when you take your finger off the pad. Just now while writing this out, I had an idea. Maybe I'll set up TWO pads per loop. One for toggle, and for note on/off; I can stutter with the latter, and let the former ride out. Hmmm.... can't wait to get home from work. On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Doug Cox wrote: > I use a TriggerFinger with Mobius, which is much like using one with an > EDP. > > Off the top of my head, I don't think you can program the TF to send a > note on without sending a note off at release. But I'm wondering why > you would want to do that with an EDP? > ------=_Part_480_21872491.1205515814097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Good question Doug. I have 8 pads set up to trigger loops 1 through 8. I would like to be able to hit the same pad several times in a row (like a stutter) and then the last time let it continue to loop.

Option one is to set the pad to "toggle", where the first time you hit it, it starts to play, and the second time, it stops playing; therefore that doesn't work so great for the stuttering. Option two is  for note on/ and a note off when the pad is released. This works better, but obviously the loop stops when you take your finger off the pad.

Just now while writing this out, I had an idea. Maybe I'll set up TWO pads per loop. One for toggle, and for note on/off; I can stutter with the latter, and let the former ride out. Hmmm.... can't wait to get home from work.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:59 AM, Doug Cox <uncledig@gmail.com> wrote:
I use a TriggerFinger with Mobius, which is much like using one with an EDP.

Off the top of my head, I don't think you can program the TF to send a
note on without sending a note off at release.  But I'm wondering why
you would want to do that with an EDP? 

------=_Part_480_21872491.1205515814097-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 17:35:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C08B93BEB9; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:35:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=KRRg0l8atMEM33JPmzfOx1QqpUUQltf/D2LWcZX3qYg=; b=dG25eF81eJJ7VyGAMtzUpmITPtWm2kh+DGKeaacnrJlWwffJmi4yCGDDsb1Q0I5xs2ZoqvZ/6qg9G4m1dlwTDSaPdqcA/rWKxbBh2Zvqp328wtpFgcntISbbtlQekKj99WZhVylEEFKXMi+i0b9iEFClIkp08JtyoNEe1KSJods= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=mkQ6kahUcucv8be06OgG8gHRtO1pZyL4266mzlrvC8lHSTuuxoCp1y7iGOocFmVb2Cyg1rdx7l/dlJgeygBmVs8zCP60muQYjhZJhP94tlBQz4NamiPZgxXV8F+s1emybVhYzP4XbtyrNszCrad/hWIdxQXST0dpxFRX/pOdq50= Message-ID: <8c82d1660803141035v15adf076yd11cbcf2983e3977@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:35:08 -0400 From: "Patrick Suler" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Merry Loop Day MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_491_28052548.1205516108088" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:35:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_491_28052548.1205516108088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline By the way, Merry Loop Day. Maybe I'm corny. But it's 3.14... as a looper, you gotta celebrate somehow, right? Last year, I got the rc-50. This year I joined this mailing list (albeit at 1am). I wish there was a huge loop fest annually on 3.14, just on principle. -Patrick ------=_Part_491_28052548.1205516108088 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline By the way, Merry Loop Day.

Maybe I'm corny. But it's 3.14... as a looper, you gotta celebrate somehow, right?

Last year, I got the rc-50. This year I joined this mailing list (albeit at 1am).

I wish there was a huge loop fest annually on 3.14, just on principle.

-Patrick
------=_Part_491_28052548.1205516108088-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 17:40:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DF873BEB6; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:40:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:40:03 -0500 Subject: RE: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) Thread-Topic: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) Thread-Index: AciF+RNeQ57MKVChSDmZT8cQnPHw0QAACX0Q Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE71440794AB640@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> <47DA33EA.4050208@tiscali.co.uk> <8c82d1660803141030y65da9db4i64e70fee2f0b0cc9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c82d1660803141030y65da9db4i64e70fee2f0b0cc9@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:40:07 +0000 (UTC) > I have 8 pads set up to trigger loops 1 through 8. I would like to be > able to hit the same pad several times in a row (like a stutter) and > then the last time let it continue to loop. If I understand correctly all you need to do is program the Trigger Finger to send the right note numbers, they do not need to be in toggle mode. The loop trigger functions are not sustainable and have no defined long-press behavior so the note off is ignored. Each time you press a pad it will retrigger the loop. To "let it continue to loop" simply stop pressing the pad. You will want to have the SamplerStyle parameter set to Start (Sta). Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 18:14:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 746B83BE94; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 677328866/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.66.255.133 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.255.133 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgABAIJd2kdPQv+F/2dsb2JhbAAIqieCHQ Message-ID: <47DAC036.3030200@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:13:10 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> <47DA33EA.4050208@tiscali.co.uk> <8c82d1660803141030y65da9db4i64e70fee2f0b0cc9@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <8c82d1660803141030y65da9db4i64e70fee2f0b0cc9@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:14:30 +0000 (UTC) Patrick Suler wrote: > Good question Doug. I have 8 pads set up to trigger loops 1 through 8. I > would like to be able to hit the same pad several times in a row (like a > stutter) and then the last time let it continue to loop. > > Option one is to set the pad to "toggle", where the first time you hit > it, it starts to play, and the second time, it stops playing; therefore > that doesn't work so great for the stuttering. Option two is for note > on/ and a note off when the pad is released. This works better, but > obviously the loop stops when you take your finger off the pad. set EDP param Samplerstyle = Sta problem solved...no? andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 18:49:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CDA53BE93; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:49:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EubnsRNvCx+FF5tF3wTrOhQA3j92rvwlHqZgv9T93s0=; b=a42ZJmMVHBjk42Xm0UH19p4VtxxyYniRA3e0FSRdUfKR03oWyHds9cj15fJqtPThP2S6XXg8vo96Rc5l4TuTfKOWEh0FVACkiPEAEWgoZvWZuZQcdNBk2B224sWy5+wTwut9Lh0ODRVpdq3T8PH8YzaIbYsAKJU3BowEIvCy0Qk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KcpRGU1xoV7RcLh5YLm5L6TsHPPR0Yp6W3423DA7Z/CE1MT7BAbUp2Cgl8w6C1RkgcbxvRWPOtmNuKsSJyhzcotmpiRHZ2vBRhziRyqmW7JxHgHF9WfroWlYxgbmLf7v1WEx+TMc/PQEQLXmhUdfoIzCnSLDLMje0VigpWEFsy8= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:49:18 -0500 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP + Trigger Finger (Hey, I'm new) In-Reply-To: <47DAC036.3030200@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> <47DA33EA.4050208@tiscali.co.uk> <8c82d1660803141030y65da9db4i64e70fee2f0b0cc9@mail.gmail.com> <47DAC036.3030200@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <62FjK.A.yyE.vis2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:49:19 +0000 (UTC) yeah, what those guys said :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 19:07:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB13C3BE91; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=CBQ+YB7CxjyRy6ux+kV+2gFNzyx7ZECXnxC4OBoT6Xg=; b=Iy5MCU+Gu+dg4zhXwON1h2EsAS4PM1yQNezjqldfuS7ZlSs8UM0cghfwkHb9DZT3PQOWbldWiV2zMxmz0kMVbAxeR+wsm+DZnnnXd6MtP0i+1aO9x8dCg8nmgmEhoIdIOQkrIQ7JJEz+SiqdM6kmJsrNkBXN9cjtKpo0q0qI0ng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HXBx991g4VcvQh6bwq9U3r+7XOUA0JoIlTedlsXR891sc4WM81WaTUctcS16u2LTJSsenrcADt1Mixlc1ID5gTiAAImTizfBiFfH/lusnug94VlvtWRL97EgIeL+wFD8nmCJu+WUbuM5yqqRCW2WiVTK9eXXLnc6QtEVQg17j/o= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:07:28 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3076_2700543.1205521648410" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:07:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3076_2700543.1205521648410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I grabbed one last night right after selling an amp. (Spoken like a pathetic gearhead, I know.) I was hoping they'd still be there, and I haven't yet received anything that leads me to believe they aren't in stock. So I expect to get my first EDP next week. I figure, worse comes to worse and I don't grok it, or I decide I'd rather tackle looping via software, within the next 30 days, I'll return it. And if that happens, it'll probably make the Clearance pages, which no doubt will make another looper very happy, as it'll likely be further discounted. -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_3076_2700543.1205521648410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I grabbed one last night right after selling an amp. (Spoken like a pathetic gearhead, I know.) I was hoping they'd still be there, and I haven't yet received anything that leads me to believe they aren't in stock. So I expect to get my first EDP next week. I figure, worse comes to worse and I don't grok it, or I decide I'd rather tackle looping via software, within the next 30 days, I'll return it.

And if that happens, it'll probably make the Clearance pages, which no doubt will make another looper very happy, as it'll likely be further discounted.


--
Zak Kramer
Crazyquilt Arts & Music
http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_3076_2700543.1205521648410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 19:42:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CC7A3BE97; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:42:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:35:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:42:35 +0000 (UTC) I got my EDP from Musicians' Friend yesterday. Looks to be exactly what I was expecting. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 19:42:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BC613BEBA; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:39:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: EDP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:42:36 +0000 (UTC) And speaking of he Echoplex Digital Pro, I have the wrong kind of feedback pedal and I need to get the right kind. The one I have is a Roland EV-5. Only half of the pedal's travel controls the feedback function of the EDP, so I don't nearly as much control as I need. With the pedal all the way up, I get feedback of 127 (no decay) - but I have to push it halfway down to get any change at all in the function. What make and model of pedal I need to get the full effect? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 20:48:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0A123BE99; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:48:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7--412762730 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:48:23 -0600 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:48:29 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7--412762730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "I figure, worse comes to worse and I don't grok it, or I decide I'd rather tackle looping via software, within the next 30 days, I'll return it. " Zak, just curious...being in the hinterlands of Montana.....what is this "grok" you speak of? John --Apple-Mail-7--412762730 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "I figure, worse comes to worse and I don't grok it, or I decide I'd rather tackle looping via software, within the next 30 days, I'll return it. "

Zak, just curious...being in the hinterlands of Montana.....what is this "grok" you speak of?

John
--Apple-Mail-7--412762730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 20:51:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 051F83BE92; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=q1PGuFYNXYpnHFCk1bI7qV/aYCTDMTzwp1hlin5mp8U=; b=ZSsKtonrTxk8wWAYxxl7HEOhpMc1zFHYgulxz3Ej7GxAyG+QO60QfhFFEj9eXnFPUXCIeNwJy1mC8NHo1kq5K7THdz+h62YT4gjwbEcsP91t2W2d2fHvyW/MKxJrxENadl9HGcI/w7KAX8jOlgIG0L9ZSe4u8mMeAJqugWGu3cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VLXUQPJf7LOJozuj3U1Qm9ySQYhtlD3Y2LcbUekVwv+JKCvRNjgcniZ2GCbi9e9sArNfVfZBfuuLpt1UrE0CEgcEKehkuCgeHSKkgyaPycKOmhg1IVbaZYB5/AytCJ6Px11taFqI+Otz72qpUkgQPdtJTokpN8CjunwQ79n7yJU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:51:20 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:51:21 +0000 (UTC) grok - to understand something so well it becomes ingrained. It's often used to just mean understand or 'get it' On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 4:48 PM, john floridis wrote: > > "I figure, worse comes to worse and I don't grok it, or I decide I'd rather > tackle looping via software, within the next 30 days, I'll return it. " > > Zak, just curious...being in the hinterlands of Montana.....what is this > "grok" you speak of? > > John -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 20:56:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D6F83BE9E; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:56:56 -0600 References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Awesome, thanks. I suppose I'm showing my age, but I'd never heard that before. So, I guess I'm beginning to "grok" what "grok" means. John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 21:01:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B5313BEA2; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47DAE7AB.80803@biink.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:01:31 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Windows/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:01:39 +0000 (UTC) john floridis wrote: > Awesome, thanks. I suppose I'm showing my age, but I'd never heard > that before. > > So, I guess I'm beginning to "grok" what "grok" means. > > John http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grok -- * David Beardsley * microtonal guitar * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 21:03:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3053D3BEC1; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:03:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:03:42 +0000 (UTC) At 4:51 PM -0400 3/14/08, Tony K wrote: >grok - to understand something so well it becomes ingrained. It's >often used to just mean understand or 'get it' From the novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert A. Heinlein - a very popular story in the '60s when young freaks were living communally and expecting to change the world. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 21:11:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 469FA3BEC3; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <068301c88618$031ae350$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: EDP Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:11:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <5px2SD.A.g3D.Zou2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Don't forget that an EV-5 has an adjustment knob on the side. It may be that the adjustment knob is set wrong. > The one I have is a Roland EV-5. Only half of the pedal's travel controls > the feedback function of the EDP, From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 21:13:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E37CD3BECA; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--411234527 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:13:52 -0600 References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:13:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--411234527 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "From the novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert A. Heinlein - a very popular story in the '60s when young freaks were living communally and expecting to change the world." My education continues. How could I have awoken this morning and non known what it is to "grok." As Sting would say..."I have only come here seeking knowledge....things they would not teach me of in college." Truly, I am blessed by loopers delight. john --Apple-Mail-8--411234527 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "From the novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert A. Heinlein - a very popular story in the '60s when young freaks were living communally and expecting to change the world."

My education continues.  How could I have awoken this morning and non known what it is to "grok."

As Sting would say..."I have only come here seeking knowledge....things they would not teach me of in college."

Truly, I am blessed by loopers delight.

john
--Apple-Mail-8--411234527-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 21:31:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 253043BEB9; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <068301c88618$031ae350$5901a8c0@bobdell> References: <8c82d1660803132205h1817ea56m90c6aebd5ec8cb71@mail.gmail.com> <068301c88618$031ae350$5901a8c0@bobdell> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:18:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EDP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:31:24 +0000 (UTC) I tried that. Didn't help. At 2:11 PM -0700 3/14/08, Bob Amstadt wrote: >Don't forget that an EV-5 has an adjustment knob on the side. It >may be that the adjustment knob is set wrong. > >>The one I have is a Roland EV-5. Only half of the pedal's travel >>controls the feedback function of the EDP, -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 21:49:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3FA43BEC2; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 331 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:49:21 UTC X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=SyswUzd_AAAA:8 a=0xmcyeG7AAAA:8 a=0ghcQHcfAAAA:8 a=JGPSvfIi6NCiFLsUSrIA:9 a=6wqZqArshdUzEfbyZ2nEQrZe6JIA:4 a=R1qc3nVtuvoA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=V9OP79lusOsA:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: EDP Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:44:00 -0700 Message-ID: <002101c8861c$83f1d750$451b694c@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AciGGsOpOkpYLGvdR/Gg9rcCcjjHTwAAS+cg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Hi David, This is covered in the EDP FAQ on the LD website: http://loopersdelight.com/tools/echoplex/FAQ1.html#Anchor-What-37516 Having said that, I use an Ernie Ball pedal for feedback because I like the way it feels. It also doesn't cover the full range of the pedal, but I've gotten used to it. ~Greg -----Original Message----- From: David Gans [mailto:david@trufun.com] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 2:19 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP I tried that. Didn't help. At 2:11 PM -0700 3/14/08, Bob Amstadt wrote: >Don't forget that an EV-5 has an adjustment knob on the side. It >may be that the adjustment knob is set wrong. > >>The one I have is a Roland EV-5. Only half of the pedal's travel >>controls the feedback function of the EDP, -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 21:55:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDBA53BEA6; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:55:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: David Torn tonight in New Haven? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:55:04 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 75.16.162.4 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: pjbmhb@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CA54353195E05F_8D0_3B7D_FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 35304-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CA543531911BAB-8D0-1D3D@FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:55:06 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8CA54353195E05F_8D0_3B7D_FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone going? It is at Firehouse 12, which is a really classy, cool, space. I saw Bill Frisell there a while ago. Great space! Should be fun. =-) PJ ----------MB_8CA54353195E05F_8D0_3B7D_FWM-M35.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Anyone going? It is at Firehouse 12, which is a really classy, cool, space. I saw Bill Frisell there a while ago. Great space! Should be fun.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 23:24:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C0D23BE95; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47DB0909.6010200@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:23:53 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <330AxD.A.pQB.Qkw2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:24:01 +0000 (UTC) The Memory Man w/Hazarai is getting cheaper and cheaper, I'm seeing them now for $178 new on Ebay. I'm thinking about getting one as a backup in case my Tascam goes down (can hardly carry a backup), and for trips with my girlfriend where I can just barely justify my Backpacker, let alone a big tape machine. I wish a walkman-sized four-track had been produced, but we won't ever be seeing one of those now. And I don't want to be so fetishistic about tape that I can't bear the thought of looping without it. With reverse and tape-style pitchshifting, this seems to be the closest cheap, portable stand-in. Obviously the 2880 has the four tracks, but it's bigger and pricier and doesn't seem as mess-with-it-able. So...anyone with the MM w/H discover any new freaky possibilities with it? Making recordings with it? Any buyer's remorse...? Further off-topic, has anyone ever used the Traveler Guitar traveler's (duh) guitars, particularly the acoustics? The Escape solidbody is tiny and tempting... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 14 23:31:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F8583BE91; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:31:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002101c8861c$83f1d750$451b694c@gwdesk> References: <002101c8861c$83f1d750$451b694c@gwdesk> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:28:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: RE: EDP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:31:16 +0000 (UTC) At 2:44 PM -0700 3/14/08, greg williams wrote: > >This is covered in the EDP FAQ on the LD website: >http://loopersdelight.com/tools/echoplex/FAQ1.html#Anchor-What-37516 > >Having said that, I use an Ernie Ball pedal for feedback because I like the >way it feels. It also doesn't cover the full range of the pedal, but I've >gotten used to it. Thanks. Guess I'm pretty much stuck with what I have. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 00:28:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C83D3BE8C; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=AcdMGybz/srWVOA8RuvrpgCWPs/eGnyfzqqlZlMBr/M=; b=ENO/111izQvYx/o84LuoThLUYHdL2siwgXIu/R8yMHkSt0LvhFQRLP/pf1XKM5gBm6IbE0aJydzUG0ru+yfShb3K2s6IVK/LBW9mjkLQ2LSZOgZqknxM3D6nvvYdRM3K205GPM1wm3XEbNTwbvd5ai3sa/8gJTOowNPXbuT01gQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=S7Ftlwdue04cZInDh59Pf79lOx+aTP2PpcT3IUat7JJbbX/5NJEL53mdcRhCnIuR8mWkiDr7NQeQ2TzXJpkED/kRbKy/Fm+JPtcjZqfsefu4KX96wrbUVLgjT9PjtpHmHszwPSsio3o0snF4Makg6RiBgnA/Togukmo0IK6W0Ds= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <47DB0909.6010200@mhorse.com> References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> <47DB0909.6010200@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7F90BF64-9DF8-42DC-BC3A-8982AB6B60B8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:28:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:28:23 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I wish a walkman-sized four-track had been produced, but we won't > ever be seeing one of those now. Hi Daryl This is a smallish digital 4 track: http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=818 Never used one, so not sure about ease of editing or versatility, but I saw one at Git Ctr and it is slim and portable. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 00:41:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B87063BE92; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Iz+WEBZIHokC2R08yA5gn539tlvCVKZ2bBNQ69mcPQ8=; b=a319/862XqUIzlud/9vJo1lZw/0wkIhdJgFj+7/zc7ZyBfJ547YnAPQYYbHJy2cgj6JT1FFkXEQdhL7xqB1wI0FM4m494ahQki0k34AEfNyUjmXBMi6f4bfUsTwi/tSBl+7nn13qC68mmMKS0Zbag9g3ShizbbkSA5E9XZh+fyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HWwcfBQDvbpV0VQelDumRarPYo3GxB9KmBSD3p0hrnS9S7i0Cei7wqNtdv/ECaSkKGTaAx4LnGo0yon0VIO+94eiVf2b61fycaZ9jh00Zg9aKYw6tXJ8ML9lGUJ90HzoKHDiCFrnjSlWP3NdWtV2dd8M9H4zXWfcXgirgw3ti5s= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:41:07 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4391_13488271.1205541667972" References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:41:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4391_13488271.1205541667972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline And all of this before I could even answer the question...now no doubt more ably done by others. I did actually pause a moment after using the word, but decided that it wasn't as if I had said something really obscure, like "if I don't reach the EDP, I'll send it back." But I figure, still, there are some who might reach that allusion, too. I don't imagine there are many Herberts here. Zak, who's coming up for air from the EDP manual. On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:13 PM, john floridis wrote: > *"From the novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert A. Heinlein - a > very popular story in the '60s when young freaks were living communally and > expecting to change the world.*" > > My education continues. How could I have awoken this morning and non > known what it is to "grok." > > As Sting would say..."I have only come here seeking knowledge....things > they would not teach me of in college." > > Truly, I am blessed by loopers delight. > > john > -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_4391_13488271.1205541667972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline And all of this before I could even answer the question...now no doubt more ably done by others.

I did actually pause a moment after using the word, but decided that it wasn't as if I had said something really obscure, like "if I don't reach the EDP, I'll send it back." But I figure, still, there are some who might reach that allusion, too. I don't imagine there are many Herberts here.

Zak, who's coming up for air from the EDP manual.

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:13 PM, john floridis <john@johnfloridis.com> wrote:
"From the novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" by Robert A. Heinlein - a very popular story in the '60s when young freaks were living communally and expecting to change the world."

My education continues.  How could I have awoken this morning and non known what it is to "grok."

As Sting would say..."I have only come here seeking knowledge....things they would not teach me of in college."

Truly, I am blessed by loopers delight.

john



--
Zak Kramer
Crazyquilt Arts & Music
http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_4391_13488271.1205541667972-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 00:57:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23C483BE8F; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47DB1F11.3090308@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:57:53 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> <47DB0909.6010200@mhorse.com> <7F90BF64-9DF8-42DC-BC3A-8982AB6B60B8@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7F90BF64-9DF8-42DC-BC3A-8982AB6B60B8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4NZpt.A.9EF.W8x2HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:57:58 +0000 (UTC) thanks Bob...but it's gotta be tape. I load 'em with loop tapes. I'm looking into some equipment now for sight-impaired folks that has various tape speeds and some potentially interesting unusual features, and a couple of them are Walkman-sized. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > On Mar 14, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > >> I wish a walkman-sized four-track had been produced, but we won't >> ever be seeing one of those now. > > Hi Daryl > > This is a smallish digital 4 track: > > http://www.bossus.com/gear/productdetails.php?ProductId=818 > > Never used one, so not sure about ease of editing or versatility, but > I saw one at Git Ctr and it is slim and portable. > > > regards > > > BobC > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > > http://www.youtube.com/tynego > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 01:05:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59F2B3BE89; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=crH3SQc9UAqS/WK90o+pFSS/KJ0X8i6Nh6RuGdZxWxI=; b=DzJFbGX7bsAlHEiATO9FTssi6+ctl6p5dDsu840A8ZuTnkcaopzeMcwBQdacrnStqX7NfZ8LKGwJ3QAbmPf3yMSgYF+YysQvbIxeE7+7AGtXVlkZ4yYscqVtTxJmWm0CHEUVYcncqLXDfm1HqrEK/qVV1UTB209U+06vrx+xx4w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=My0kkMuBilIJ3oyJSfGGE3N5w9WpUhquKrZmAvYaDqbmIDbIJfZniH84JNBPwPwzZVNN8Q3aERHOtLl6upJemcPO0ZImZATWygxqHJBpo+aWgpSY2kTqQZtSMy1u3A+g51i0GAo/qHezIq9KFHc59jRrNBXI2O8b84vdRqonuTo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <47DB1F11.3090308@mhorse.com> References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> <47DB0909.6010200@mhorse.com> <7F90BF64-9DF8-42DC-BC3A-8982AB6B60B8@gmail.com> <47DB1F11.3090308@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <01928FF5-2D48-4C46-BF77-058673C3E5F4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:05:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 14, 2008, at 5:57 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > thanks Bob...but it's gotta be tape. I load 'em with loop tapes. Okay. You wrote this: >>And I don't want to be so fetishistic about tape that I can't bear the thought of looping without it.<< So I thought there might be wiggle room. :-) BobC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 01:25:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6841A3BE88; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:25:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=NQWxY4urHTs6cHyU9AJcLRKdHBWyU0MJMeQcD7uDElA=; b=vYWt3tScPVl2Fq2M1darGhCX6saAq+fSSDMqwN7H/NyCer4wqCEeGhXfX0vlFe+hU3zwE482Ijyv6ucTc13TZSDP4X0QKlqRoAyCJwUqBzx17W3fY8rDviy75cppWLB9vIYn7yFqTk9F9kmVVwJlTRPOD4+ON/9883tTdWbVnp0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=TDxwu/gTwCppFscUqWZr9TB9kNc3MFStYDww+BbBTaRveoFXtTqhk0F5eukIyGFaNV7XxtS7qFUtWjLEKu+mtTAYL1HjXyznC6KpxRI5PZ+0lFTchPyy+NKdbfYO2K3Avkr8uphQ3NWrjyjkAY+Kf3CqQy1/ZTJHn36x9YwIaT8= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803141825of0c1c74ve410619c8a4211b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:25:04 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3628_5528347.1205544304771" References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6b8383c91fcdf635 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:25:06 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3628_5528347.1205544304771 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline > I don't imagine there are many Herberts here. now.. when you say Herberts... what do you mean exactly? ------=_Part_3628_5528347.1205544304771 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
 I don't imagine there are many Herberts here.

now.. when you say Herberts... what do you mean exactly?
------=_Part_3628_5528347.1205544304771-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 01:33:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A14543BE81; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47DB2751.20704@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:33:05 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai References: <74D6AA23-59F3-480A-AE52-29A6A198A4AC@johnfloridis.com> <475446.41221.qm@web50302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20080313202034.1E4743BE81@arsenic.violacea.com> <47DB0909.6010200@mhorse.com> <7F90BF64-9DF8-42DC-BC3A-8982AB6B60B8@gmail.com> <47DB1F11.3090308@mhorse.com> <01928FF5-2D48-4C46-BF77-058673C3E5F4@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <01928FF5-2D48-4C46-BF77-058673C3E5F4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Ahhh....gotcha. Right! Yes, I can wiggle, if the looper/recorder/fxbox/genielamp can do reverse and speed/pitchshifting and has some other possibilities for chaotic tweakage. (I don't like the DL-4, unfortunately). I hadn't thought about a digi 4-track in that way, in truth. I may research a bit. appreciated, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >>And I don't want to be so fetishistic about tape that I can't bear > the thought of looping without it.<< > > So I thought there might be wiggle room. > > > :-) > > BobC > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 01:47:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF8563BE85; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OINNlchp5e4= From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:48:41 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001501c8863e$b20b2bb0$0301a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <47DB0909.6010200@mhorse.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AciGKn1cB/gBnvPaSU+iYEF/cPdeMgAEt8wg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:47:54 +0000 (UTC) Short summary: got one, don't really need it (had already two looper stompboxes), but didn't return it. Slightly longer version: There are three things that suck: 1. varispeed is only available for the looper, not for the delays 2. you have to hold down one footswitch for recording/overdubbing (not so much of a problem if you're wearing shoes) 3. no independent mix control for looper and delay 4. only delays up to 3 seconds Well, 2 is not so much of a letdown, and for 4 I already got the DD20, but 1 and 3 are. Nice things: 1. you can varispeed the loop 2. lowpass/highpass (which sits in the feedback for the delays, but unfortunately in the output path for the looper) 3. you can adjust feedback level while overdubbing (EDPers call this "secondary feedback") 4. small package I guess, you'll have more fun with an old digitech PDS8000, though. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 02:14:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8A1E3BE84; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=DXc48MoKCi+ukS7faoEyXFfVr5M2XHDNrNjXbR96n+0=; b=toOVCae5XhthftZqj9D5S+i9qixZt0lUmdVJOIcFABd023zUQ9fzf0JlHpIJEmH2PqfKJP84dOP87qF6CtD5PgYXE4DNIX/tJUUi6hsNAd0OvbzcBFxsmBdln+fg38LulHCKtGnpjWSjrsi+a3nWy36n7sznK3NZu0DrZ23znB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i9PqMwJL0n8NAbHljGLFKbYFnQEJ4f2OqzG+XUM0M7ir5Zf3N2b7Kbc8zEk44q3hUzDznRTbDQnHzJGvS7zWysW6+rPbmirFQd5z9laMWBJ85iQjd8pDDeCi65+tnKJv1RXdjSJkfQ2Df8mLwuDm5O/7bGla+dhaXflwr/8AIak= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:14:23 -0400 From: "Zak Kramer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex deal at Musician's Friend In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0803141825of0c1c74ve410619c8a4211b2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4485_28177843.1205547263568" References: <0F6F02D4-C3DE-4D8B-8282-75AD330E3EAA@johnfloridis.com> <9ab0c76f0803141825of0c1c74ve410619c8a4211b2@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:14:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4485_28177843.1205547263568 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:25 PM, mark francombe wrote: > > I don't imagine there are many Herberts here. > > > now.. when you say Herberts... what do you mean exactly? > "*Herbert! Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!*" - *Space Hippies* chanting "*Mr. Spock... what does 'Herbert' mean?*" "*It is somewhat... uncomplimentary, captain. Herbert was a minor official -- notorious for his rigid and limited patterns of thought.*" - *Kirk* and *Spock* on the hippies' epithet from The Way to Eden. -- Zak Kramer Crazyquilt Arts & Music http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_4485_28177843.1205547263568 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:25 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:

 I don't imagine there are many Herberts here.

now.. when you say Herberts... what do you mean exactly?

"Herbert! Herbert! Herbert! Herbert!"
- Space Hippies chanting


"Mr. Spock... what does 'Herbert' mean?"
"It is somewhat... uncomplimentary, captain. Herbert was a minor official -- notorious for his rigid and limited patterns of thought."

- Kirk and Spock on the hippies' epithet
from The Way to Eden.


--
Zak Kramer
Crazyquilt Arts & Music
http://www.crazyquiltarts.com/ ------=_Part_4485_28177843.1205547263568-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 02:32:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E9423BE84; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47DB354D.9050903@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:32:45 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai References: <001501c8863e$b20b2bb0$0301a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <001501c8863e$b20b2bb0$0301a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:32:59 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Rainer, you had written a great review earlier which I reread. I actually don't see myself using the delays too much, I'm not much for distinguishable echoes anymore, it's the really the tweakability of the looper I'm interested in. #2 is actually a bigger bummer because I like tabletop control; hmm...that might make it almost unusable for me unless I can somehow change that (wiring an external footswitch...?). Shoot, I hadn't really thought about that before. I do have a PDS2000 in storage, maybe I need to drag that out and give it a whirl again. regards, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Short summary: got one, don't really need it (had already two looper > stompboxes), but didn't return it. > > Slightly longer version: > There are three things that suck: > 1. varispeed is only available for the looper, not for the delays > 2. you have to hold down one footswitch for recording/overdubbing > (not so much of a problem if you're wearing shoes) > 3. no independent mix control for looper and delay > 4. only delays up to 3 seconds > > Well, 2 is not so much of a letdown, and for 4 I already got the DD20, but 1 > and 3 are. > > Nice things: > 1. you can varispeed the loop > 2. lowpass/highpass (which sits in the feedback for the delays, but > unfortunately in the output path for the looper) > 3. you can adjust feedback level while overdubbing (EDPers call this > "secondary feedback") > 4. small package > > I guess, you'll have more fun with an old digitech PDS8000, though. > > Rainer > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 05:00:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B315C3BE82; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:00:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=dAbUfBx+Q2iUdEltq1Ytq6w6YNYJ+AZ1re8X9V46MlcqlsLC+bC/ke691XYHvK0H; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <29259887.1205557207392.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:00:07 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: EDP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd4834504ed01830e2e1b8ac0c8e2f0ca9f2dfe6209a9096b523350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.47 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:00:08 +0000 (UTC) David-i think you are in sf arent you? i have an old ErnieBall passive volume pedal you can have. let me knowm K? staninsanfran -----Original Message----- >From: David Gans >Sent: Mar 14, 2008 7:28 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: EDP > >At 2:44 PM -0700 3/14/08, greg williams wrote: >> >>This is covered in the EDP FAQ on the LD website: >>http://loopersdelight.com/tools/echoplex/FAQ1.html#Anchor-What-37516 >> >>Having said that, I use an Ernie Ball pedal for feedback because I like the >>way it feels. It also doesn't cover the full range of the pedal, but I've >>gotten used to it. > >Thanks. Guess I'm pretty much stuck with what I have. > > > >-- > >David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com >Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 >Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com >Web site: http://www.dgans.com > From BPOL@poste.it Sat Mar 15 05:00:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 44790 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:00:49 UTC Received: from as.mahdavipour.com (mahdavipour.com [72.10.47.122]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E680F3BE79 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:00:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 20347 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2008 00:09:41 -0700 Received: from ip67-88-82-226.z82-88-67.customer.algx.net (HELO test) (67.88.82.226) by mahdavipour.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2008 00:09:41 -0700 Reply-To: "servizio@poste.it" From: "servizio@poste.it" To: Subject: Gentile Cliente, Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:09:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-Id: <20080315050049.E680F3BE79@arsenic.violacea.com>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 06:00:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 333F93BE81; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <29259887.1205557207392.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <29259887.1205557207392.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:59:44 -0700 To: stanitarium@earthlink.net, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: RE: EDP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:00:06 +0000 (UTC) At 1:00 AM -0400 3/15/08, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: >David-i think you are in sf arent you? >i have an old ErnieBall passive volume pedal you can have. >let me knowm K? >staninsanfran Kind of you to offer. I have plenty of passive volume pedals in the closet. I was hoping there was a better solution. -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 06:42:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2AE3BE82; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.ca; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NLvzmSj7+NzzeBoMhZd661MzItbdoCwzeVmi+a5+rBoWTrjabbzCLCmleOBZ/QYQb93Pt5eWoW1zFAd2acPYZtkavXpcYA/4I5OR/XdQlLha/JbBo2ScwLTKlLsNtnX8LkH56sj3b2vPkrvokEId9zlWCVDeUUj7nin/iz+1OVM=; X-YMail-OSG: wKc_LIMVM1l.iO4ktgbfhJwdTKY1a5WM.pOmk2HoHdNe1XFp2gL.uf_A0we3vHfaRD2oBtz1ebLa.3zqytTqZKQfxF0APem9Ybrc2aX65BltjMw6M._wG4k0H3z.7Q-- Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:42:08 -0400 (EDT) From: bradm Subject: Re: AW: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001501c8863e$b20b2bb0$0301a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <895519.40856.qm@web33108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:42:10 +0000 (UTC) --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Short summary: got one, don't really need it (had > already two looper > stompboxes), but didn't return it. > > Slightly longer version: > There are three things that suck: > 1. varispeed is only available for the looper, not > for the delays > 2. you have to hold down one footswitch for > recording/overdubbing > (not so much of a problem if you're wearing shoes) > 3. no independent mix control for looper and delay > 4. only delays up to 3 seconds > > Well, 2 is not so much of a letdown, and for 4 I > already got the DD20, but 1 > and 3 are. > > Nice things: > 1. you can varispeed the loop > 2. lowpass/highpass (which sits in the feedback for > the delays, but > unfortunately in the output path for the looper) > 3. you can adjust feedback level while overdubbing > (EDPers call this > "secondary feedback") > 4. small package 5. Price? Aloha, Brad Get a sneak peak at messages with a handy reading pane with All new Yahoo! Mail: http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/newmail/overview2/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 07:52:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D96363BE91; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 680264866/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.74.146.87 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.146.87 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvcAABId20dPSpJX/2dsb2JhbAAIqQGCHg Message-ID: <47DB805D.90802@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:53:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai References: <001501c8863e$b20b2bb0$0301a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <001501c8863e$b20b2bb0$0301a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-4YqC.A.MdD.EB42HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 07:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Rainer pretty much covers the subject here, so I'll just add a couple of points Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Short summary: got one, don't really need it (had already two looper > stompboxes), but didn't return it. > > Slightly longer version: > There are three things that suck: > 1. varispeed is only available for the looper, not for the delays > 2. you have to hold down one footswitch for recording/overdubbing > (not so much of a problem if you're wearing shoes) I don't have any problem without shoes, but it's a somewhat clunky way to make a loop and not so easy to get it accurate > 3. no independent mix control for looper and delay In general you can either control the delays, or the loop, but not both. You can't stop the Loop without turning off the delays. > 4. only delays up to 3 seconds and tap time won't go up to the full 3s 5. Won't run on batteries 6. To re-record a loop the process is hit Bypass, hold Tap for 500mS or more, hit Bypass, then make the new loop. 7. Time stretching is full of artefacts ( could be a plus ) 8. Reverb (which can be got on it's own) is digital mush (again, could ba a plus) > > Well, 2 is not so much of a letdown, and for 4 I already got the DD20, but 1 > and 3 are. > > Nice things: > 1. you can varispeed the loop > 2. lowpass/highpass (which sits in the feedback for the delays, but > unfortunately in the output path for the looper) > 3. you can adjust feedback level while overdubbing (EDPers call this > "secondary feedback") EDPers call it feedback, "secondary feedback" is a Mobius term > 4. small package 5. "Instant Reverse" : just hold "tap" and you hear what you just played coming out backwards for up to 6s( as an alternative to the loop). This function alone makes the pedal worthwhile, great for band use. 6.Reverse echo is capable of some interesting textures. 7. Can be persuaded to be a flanger or chorus with a bit of effort. > > I guess, you'll have more fun with an old digitech PDS8000, though. > > Rainer > > I bought the SMM to use in a band, and it's a lot of fun for that, but it's also found it's way into my looping rig right at the beginning of the signal chain. Feeding those varispeed loops into the rest of the rig is really quite gratifying . andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 15 11:49:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D16A3BE84; Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:49:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Awk13//PYepxh/i9DVe2LJ/Yg7jIgez68dBDBZ5Itvg=; b=bp9QBUfktIe6tXig3xeOUlVDNZVHRu+N8pjx6FVckiYtQoQWXghXOx5C7ncKr1cY2+1pionPhlt7D8/6ddESuD0knMLOEzlI7j3DsbBH8n5LYu+0DnRG3IivH0yjiA0uxNWbdPft6Wy5ptU+FeMjZjZOsimruOFTekbE1wvnZ6c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=PjH5Ii0vE3MfPlvdjlYcwSsCPgVCitH2smgHuthXf1u5T9VrXsb2ECEqDsZ9ATI1y4hGPKswzy87HOqJh3qOt9zdyXGhQ62iIwt7ciQartXYyxLCwU1nmws5f/RYX/YZ6Ds+lhb0zHNzkVrvnNnAQ3bKiyH9ayzk+iidDcoMnEo= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803150449k3e5044edt9b23f07e2a682210@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:49:53 +0100 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: OT Contact for Old simmons stuff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4504_21796725.1205581793664" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 81af40c62aadc13c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:49:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4504_21796725.1205581793664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone have a contact url for whoever is currently servicing or owning the remains of Simmons stuff (80 drum synth company) cheers m -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_4504_21796725.1205581793664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Does anyone have a contact url for whoever is currently servicing or owning the remains of Simmons stuff (80 drum synth company)

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 16:40:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45CA83BE8A; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <138045565.1206808848477.JavaMail.root@ccprodapp30> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:40:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Travis Lund Reply-To: Travis Lund To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: emergency need for Echoplex Digital Pro loan in Minneapolis! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: CC Mailer IV 3.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:40:51 +0000 (UTC) Check out Twin Town Guitars (34th and Lyndale Ave just south of the Wedge/Uptown area) They always did great work on set-ups/repairs when I went. They could probably fix yer Echo. -Travis --------------------------------------- Original E-mail From: Beth Bahia Cohen [bethbahia@mac.com] Date: 03/29/2008 11:13 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: emergency need for Echoplex Digital Pro loan in Minneapolis! Hi all, I'm performing tonight and tomorrow night (Saturday and Sunday) at the Southern Theater in Minneapolis with a dance company and I have a solo piece during the show in which I use my Echoplex Digital Pro. Last night at sound check, my echoplex stopped working. (earlier in the week, when I turned the output knob, there was a lot of static....during the sound check, there was a loud pop, and the output channel stopped working.) I'm wondering if there's anyone in the Minneapolis/St.Paul area who has an EDP that I can borrow or rent for these two performances. It would be greatly appreciated! (or any recommendations for where I can get it repaired today....) thanks.....Beth Bahia Cohen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 17:15:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DBDD3BE8A; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:15:41 UTC Message-ID: <20080329120858.xzm39cfhkog8wg44@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:08:58 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Any info out about Y2K8 yet? ...and some gig spam :) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Nemoguitt@aol.com: > > In a message dated 3/28/08 3:41:52 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com write= s: > > >> do we have any word on a 2008=A0 >> festival yet?=A0 I heard rumors that it will be in Pittsburgh, PA >> > > i'm afraid this is not true.....sorry.....michael > Oh ok... not sure where I read or heard the rumor. Is it going to be =20 in beautiful Santa Cruz again? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 17:23:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71B2E3BE90; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <014201c891c1$99a28620$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <20080329120858.xzm39cfhkog8wg44@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: Any info out about Y2K8 yet? ...and some gig spam :) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:23:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <45ZDFB.A.j8.Csn7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:23:14 +0000 (UTC) > Oh ok... not sure where I read or heard the rumor. Is it going to be in > beautiful Santa Cruz again? I can't speak for Rick, but given that Rick Walker has always been the organizer of that festival and lives in Santa Cruz, I would assume that this year's festival would also be in Santa Cruz. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 17:50:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76F3B3BE90; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3d3a6e3e4f4415d13cb0889cf1117e4c@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:50:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Too many musical loop layers becomes mush (IMO). But sometimes you actually want mush. I use two unsynced EDPs and "stereoize" the output of each with =20 processing. Each is set up for only 3 loops. I very rarely (hardly ever) use all 6 loops available to me between the =20= two EDPs. Most often, I use 2 on one Plex and only one on the other (unsynced) =20 Plex. What Rick said is very astute. It's hard to develop a complex song/composition quickly adding just one =20= element at a time and still manage the levels and mix of all. It takes time. Mir-O's performance at Y2K6 was awe inspiring. But many audience members are impatient and will not wait for the music =20= to develop - or (simply put) refuse to enjoy the process of it =20 developing for what it is. That's one reason that (for a time) a few years back I occasionally =20 employed a phrase sampler with parts (also of my own creation, of =20 course) already canned and ready to go at a well-timed push of a =20 button. I don't use it any more - my interests are elsewhere (I'm trying to do =20= simpler music these days). But I do find the feedback knobs on the EDPs most handy for getting rid =20= of "mush" when it arises unwanted. Cheers, tEd =AE KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com http://www.myspace.com/tedkillianguitar http://www.myspace.com/tedkillian Flux Aeterna: =20 http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 playListId=3D6378076 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: =20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm And: "Mojo at the Dojo" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/hartungkillian And: "Experimentus" CD at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/krispen4 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 18:00:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E26773BE8E; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2587 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:00:07 UTC Message-ID: <47EE8748.20509@pa.msu.edu> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:15:36 -0500 From: John McIntyre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Mark Smart wrote: > I use a maximum of 3 separate loops in a song. Ok, so why 3? I am reminded of the Family song that was written by Dave Mason where the girl with the faraway look in her eyes asks him how many lumps in his tea. (-8 John McIntyre mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 18:41:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BA5D3BE8E; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <4759e5740803281116j47bd095dw66e365477e73faa0@mail.gmail.com> References: <000101c890fd$d58be560$c2011718@gwdesk> <4759e5740803281116j47bd095dw66e365477e73faa0@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <76f39cc645990b03959f24f016e68ad8@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: BANG ON A CAN? (Was Re: Cd packaging) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:41:25 -0700 To: todd@toddreynolds.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <1NmHd.A.zLD.b1o7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Todd, Lo and behold. I got out my copy of BOAC's "Music for Airports" and scoured the liner notes. Yep, and there you are. A gem of a record (I actually prefer it to Eno's original) Even my wife likes it - and she hates most things I like. Even as I listen to your CD Baby tracks and and read your bio I am struck (again) by how little we know about people on this list - REALLY. Steve Reich Tan Dun Bang on a Can Yo-Yo Ma Kenny Werner I guess I have even more liner notes to scour in my CD collection. An impressive list of people to have worked with if ever I read one. It just shows to go ya. On the internet, all these "communities" seem to develop where almost nobody really knows anybody else. Nice to meet you. Though I have read many posts by you over the years - I never knew. Cheers, Ted On Mar 28, 2008, at 11:16 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > and then I thought... duh... why didn't I offer up the link? > > http://cdbaby.com/cd/toddreynolds > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:02 PM, greg williams > wrote: > Ted, > > This post gets my vote for the most entertaining of the week. Big > Stupid DIY > ideas in full frontal glory :) > > I laughed so hard reading this I almost spit out my coffee - which > would be > a shame as I am enjoying a very fine blend at the moment. > > Keep 'em coming Ted, > > ~Greg > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 18:44:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68FF23BE8A; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=17jq6QXnVrR4YRqmHU3yNF+2eR4fVX7Yk1BN6uSU/8M=; b=QmohNm290XFcnLFmNoRvIW3LQ+3UBn8iXpJZSKKk8SK5me0mmChL5caIMFMq3uix4FZtDa43sPB1N1cyqFa5ZYERk5FGduyJrSDtvfKU2KMeEE+FaGh8Norb+4D5N6RdYiV1oQp+d1FYxvzmfyjILc0Zh1OnAvq6HXol+I0DyG0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=bYwQQUMEj63k4wi3lW/5otlQViHYaupMIwGpBM12x0TXuc6qtEySBfgeZiPhlE4xp683v0riTNXOsk/HqF+S+10H+3HujMykPWzutDVdTS5O1U8wYd5Ywdwmzoecc7T55oVUBsNjcM0wu//hDeQ422GcLTA7D3F9oAshV7ao2lI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:44:55 -0700 From: "jason casatelli" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5549_27765999.1206816295037" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:44:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5549_27765999.1206816295037 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline unsubscribe ------=_Part_5549_27765999.1206816295037 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline unsubscribe ------=_Part_5549_27765999.1206816295037-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 18:45:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 758F83BE95; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZhaOh7W6ZJwb4LeunD+3EzlFVT634P4YA7I1Unl1F14=; b=GI67Ob+tRE0Y3QJ/OHT8pGbiUoEHIKkc42VkyDTeR8bAUbEKtQXS7GvNfV8KqD/o0M4br3gziY8ibira+6Se7Ip3UGfbXeyCJlTBpAOYBa4CM2FwEdzLgs4vxWf3Dz/v77RaK8viq5nE0TIt7xIzU8N3vgXH8DYhqU1sAfeVKRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dbBfodf3vmTNXy6kZxS2EMejycbzdZXJpSDPQNjJBLeDyeKGzQJNx8cCe3AvFnU/KqGaQ/my8+w5/mSlQ0FV96NdLKGsRqqWVjiZfmeM9pU7CQwY7NRPQYhxV3x9Cg2vx8AQpEn9SLbM0BovjBeyDfeQbqx7Inv7MLVj34IBwGc= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803291145w313f2d26u9533e9555daec969@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:45:17 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <47EE8748.20509@pa.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <47EE8748.20509@pa.msu.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:45:18 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 7:15 PM, John McIntyre wrote: > Ok, so why 3? Just like TEd and Mark I preferred 3 MoreLoops when using the EDP as my main looper. The reason for that number was that it combines a sort of musical sense with keeping more RAM available for each loop. I like to keep things small - not having any options handy that I'm not really using. As for example, today when using Mobius there is practically no limit for how many loops you can have (on a track) but I still keep this option limited to 5. In this case I chose 5 because I think it makes more musical sense than 3 (not having to save up on RAM any more). There are a lot of nice five chord progressions I like to improvise with and it's nice being able to build each chord as its own loop and jump between the loops while decorating the tap dance journey by playing melody lines over it. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 19:02:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 595BD3BE94; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7HtiTKoN5q5Wbndnn7l7sR3Svwl9hO+5pAJmI3DK6o8=; b=iycBLxSjm9p2lsExvyy5C9GGHqJe8m6wO/yabE6lwYe9jC4j9ND+m3CRMfMsOSqy3843c3ikU6vT7WjW9bci4xLHeiSt8IGd4p/bymYfPaPlOEN5UTfqUIr5kvUF1uMKwEdwCGtIta/6cwbQRrQY0JJQaaKWEccEACLQQgbwPhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JWXsV6l18V952vTxJHSLcrRE17x+AQ981fcg0Wq1SR3bxOtJkIgxm10PvzIQ0wYE1Ee3oOKhSjFSYp1TDGZOtDx/R2EQ72pfPc+OxgwORWTaBvXZW3wTW3+wLjgjU4lKIf3QDATJAqGhXIOBdRRrN0MlEFmEy5znTx/HaDb+hg4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:02:37 -0500 From: "Mark Smart" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <47EE8748.20509@pa.msu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_35909_22553979.1206817357842" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <47EE8748.20509@pa.msu.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:02:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_35909_22553979.1206817357842 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I guess I haven't been able to think of more than 3 interesting backgrounds for any of the jazz tunes I'm doing. Plus a lot of them have forms that last more than 49 seconds and won't fit in one slot of EDP if it is set for 4 loops. -- Mark Smart http://cdbaby.com/cd/marksmart http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_35909_22553979.1206817357842 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I guess I haven't been able to think of more than 3 interesting backgrounds for any of the jazz tunes I'm doing. Plus a lot of them have forms that last more than 49 seconds and won't fit  in one slot of EDP if it is set for 4 loops.

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Mark Smart
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http://www.marksmart.net ------=_Part_35909_22553979.1206817357842-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 29 19:25:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96FCA3BE8B; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001e01c891d2$f34c6950$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <47EE8748.20509@pa.msu.edu> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:27:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C891DB.53E21550" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/4+seywGZCTWaf6imEOhj1C0F8q3V/W8HPT1/ zaXDrWoDeEWYcmTyhrsGCAmiwc+IlXDg0Y4eLeYkzBHtUWSfth 8b1NZGOUwgxmr5PO1h3b/ks3YNC7zra Resent-Message-ID: <_Yv1iB.A.g1E.Ffp7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:25:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C891DB.53E21550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable reading what you guys out there do, my setup/looping structure seems = kind of neanderthal: i build a first "thingie" in the line 6 looper (could be a drone, a riff = or a rhythm) and then start the "long looper" (can be eh2880 or mobius with 4 tracks) = to record a song structure, usually a bass line first. the loopers are in a chain, so my first loop gets recorded again and = will be switched off after i close the long loop. then the short looper = is free again to record something i will use in the outro later on. for short appearances i have minimalized my set-up to the following = chain: an effect machine (right now digitech's vocal300) volume pedal the line6 looper rc-2 as a long looper.=20 playing with batteries, the set-up is light and comfy. and mono. to fade out the rc-2 i use my foot - if the shoe has rubber soles, i can = do crude fades by rubbing sideways along the phrase-volume knob...as i = said earlier - neanderthal... smooth looping - tilmann ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C891DB.53E21550 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
reading what you guys out there do, my=20 setup/looping structure seems kind of neanderthal:
 
i build a first "thingie" in the line 6 = looper=20 (could be a drone, a riff or a rhythm)
and then start the "long looper" = (can be=20 eh2880 or mobius with 4 tracks) to record a song structure,
usually a bass line first.
 
the loopers are in a chain, so my first = loop gets=20 recorded again and will be switched off after i close the long loop. = then the=20 short looper is free again to record something i will use in the = outro=20 later on.
 
for short appearances i have = minimalized my set-up=20 to the following chain:
an effect machine (right now digitech's = vocal300)
volume pedal
the line6 looper
rc-2 as a long looper.
playing with batteries, the set-up is = light and=20 comfy.
and mono.
 
to fade out the rc-2 i use my foot - if = the shoe=20 has rubber soles, i can do crude fades by rubbing sideways along the=20 phrase-volume knob...as i said earlier - neanderthal...
 
smooth looping - tilmann
 
 
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 02:06:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B72493BE8B; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:06:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <2ci-XB.A.T0G.7Wv7HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:06:51 +0000 (UTC) Lately, I have been using only one loop. The reason is that I have been trying to focus on more playing vs. looping (as a crutch for filling up space and sounding better than I really am as a real time non-looping solo artist). I find that one well executed and interesting loop is more than enough to serve as a backdrop to a creative and emotive dialogue expressed via the guitar. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 02:08:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4922D3BE90; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008701c8920a$fb7b9e10$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20080329120858.xzm39cfhkog8wg44@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Subject: Re: Any info out about Y2K8 yet? ...and some gig spam :) Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:08:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:08:48 +0000 (UTC) That's unfortuante. I was under the impression that Rick would be touring abroad and not be able host the festival again. Who is it then? Boise? :) Kris >> do we have any word on a 2008 festival yet? I heard rumors that it will >> be in Pittsburgh, PA >> > > i'm afraid this is not true.....sorry.....michael > Oh ok... not sure where I read or heard the rumor. Is it going to be in beautiful Santa Cruz again? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 02:29:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40C7E3BE8D; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:29:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 X-MSMail-Priority: Low X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Another reason why I have been more conservative with my looping is that I really like the vibe and feel of a duo or trio performance, at the most. Hence, when I start stacking all sorts of loops and sounding like a full fledged "band" or ensemble, for me the performances looses a sense of intimacy and authenticity that is conveyed with a solo or duo performance. It is just my own opinion (I am not provoking debate here, not do I have the time) that in freely improvised music, a wall of sound created by a single artist makes their musical personality very opaque and un-identifiable. Albeit, for artists who have not mastered their instruments, who are intermediate players, and are not comfortable playing solo or looping with just one accompanying loop, creating a wall of sound with loops, based on more basic and easily executable parts, is an relatively easy way for them to sound "better" or more accomplished than they really are. I know this will likely irritate or offend some beginner loopers, but it's the fact of the matter, and something looping technology has allowed. No one may admit it on the list here, but I've talked about this in private with many of the accomplished loopers on this list, and all agree on this point. It is like recording in the studio with multiple tracks and punching in and out to get one part right, vs. being able to play it flawlessly from beginning to end at the start. I find that in looping, this can occur in real time, and I have done it myself in the past. It is not the type of performance that I am most proud of or one that I would use to exemplify my ability as a performing artist. It is convenient for the sake or producing a musical equivalent of "fast food" at a gig, but not French or American cuisine. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- > Lately, I have been using only one loop. The reason is that I have been > trying to focus on more playing vs. looping (as a crutch for filling up > space and sounding better than I really am as a real time non-looping solo > artist). I find that one well executed and interesting loop is more than > enough to serve as a backdrop to a creative and emotive dialogue expressed > via the guitar. > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 02:31:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0F133BE8A; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:33:45 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-reply-to: <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 5 References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:31:05 +0000 (UTC) > > Albeit, for artists who have not mastered their instruments, You've mastered the guitar? Congrats! Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 02:42:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C66C53BE8A; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ed01c8920f$ba8aea50$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:42:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 02:42:46 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! Although I don't feel that I have. Maybe because mastering an intrument is a life long endeavor. One of these days I hope I will feel as comfortable experessing myself on the guitar as if speaking and communicating with the voice. I guess that is the ideal for me. I suppose if we invented a musical language on the guitar that could be translated to and from spoken language, it might get me further down the road. :) Maybe I am speaking guitar at the 7th grade, junior high level. I'll reach college when I am 80. K- ----- Original Message ----- > > >> Albeit, for artists who have not mastered their instruments, > > You've mastered the guitar? Congrats! > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 03:16:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D506F3BE94; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 20:16:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:16:39 +0000 (UTC) Krispen, Well said. Regards, Ted On Mar 29, 2008, at 7:06 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Lately, I have been using only one loop. The reason is that I have > been trying to focus on more playing vs. looping (as a crutch for > filling up space and sounding better than I really am as a real time > non-looping solo artist). I find that one well executed and > interesting loop is more than enough to serve as a backdrop to a > creative and emotive dialogue expressed via the guitar. > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 04:27:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F402A3BE8F; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:27:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cnsp.biz Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4E276A44-58DB-487C-AC99-480E9EE76EA7@cnsp.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rod Welles Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:27:21 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:27:17 +0000 (UTC) unsubscribe On Mar 29, 2008, at 12:44 PM, jason casatelli wrote: > unsubscribe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 04:29:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14C8A3BE8F; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=r-dQzpPczDYDrc2H0yUA:9 a=arjJeZRbGgYxAUKHrM5nZgsM4B4A:4 a=hM5H0qCC1cEA:10 a=6y61hU8uYSEA:10 a=gi0PWCVxevcA:10 From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:29:44 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c8921e$ae356c30$c2011718@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-reply-to: <3d3a6e3e4f4415d13cb0889cf1117e4c@charter.net> Thread-Index: AciRxWbWd7J3LXakRgODd8/Iwkzx8gAUK6Eg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:29:43 +0000 (UTC) I take a compositional approach in general, so how many layers I use at any given time depends on the piece. I tend to use quite a few at times due to the nature of my music and guitar orchestrations. I use two approaches to reduce the "mush factor" - keep in mind I use two EDPs: 1) I use an ABY splitting box (Radial Switchbone) before the EDPs so that I can assign any layer to be panned left, right, or both (center and louder). Stereo separation of parts reduces the "mush factor" quite a bit, and sounds bloody cool. Again, I take a compositional approach, so I plan this shite out in advance. I then improvise solos on top (in the center). I am fascinated with Gamelan-inspired Kotekan interlocking melodic fragments, and I often hard pan two of those suckers left and right, with a ground or ostinato in the middle. 2) I rarely have feedback at 100%. I'm interested in things gradually morphing over time in terms of timbre and key/modal relationships, as well as polyrhythmic/polymetric possibilities. I also like to use looping to play canons, where feedback reduction is particularly essential. I also alternate quite a bit of solo classical and fingerstyle steel-string playing with the looping pieces, generally in the form of intros and codas, and those of course have no layers. I have moreloops set to 2, but I don't use that particular function much; I like the organic flow. ~Greg www.myspace.com/gregwilliamsguitarist From goldenyf@singnet.com.sg Sun Mar 30 06:37:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 55847 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:37:24 UTC Received: from comsmtp1.singnet.com.sg (comsmtp1.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.74]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E363BE88 for ; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:37:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arrowana.singnet.com.sg (arrowana.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.120]) by comsmtp1.singnet.com.sg (8.14.1/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m2TF5Z1f028052; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:05:35 +0800 Received: from arrowana.singnet.com.sg (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by arrowana.singnet.com.sg (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id m2TF5RO1029055; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:05:27 +0800 Received: (from cooluser@localhost) by arrowana.singnet.com.sg (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id m2TF5H6I029030; Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:05:17 +0800 X-Authentication-Warning: arrowana.singnet.com.sg: cooluser set sender to goldenyf@singnet.com.sg using -f To: fondazionedivittorio.it@singnet.com.sg Subject: Batch No:N-222-6747, E-900-56 Message-ID: <1206803117.47ee5aad1a03e@arrowana.singnet.com.sg> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 23:05:17 +0800 (SGT) From: foundation di vittorio Reply-To: tony_moore@live.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: SingNet WebMail Foundation's Officer, Fondazion Di Vittorio,ITALY http://www.fondazionedivittorio.it Attention, The Foundazion Di Vittorio has chosen you by the board of trusteesas one of the final recipients of a cash Grant/Donation for your own personal educational and business development. 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unsubscribe ------=_Part_3249_22778902.1206876120466-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 12:37:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAB8B3BE89; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Gandi Mail Message-ID: <2376.1206880642@m3ch.net> To: Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Origin: 203.155.1.251 Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:37:22 +0200 Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? From: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:37:23 +0000 (UTC) At 3:33 AM -0700 3/29/08, Rick Walker wrote: > > How many loops do us use simultaneously? > And why? Two answers (of course, nothing's ever simple with me, is it?) 1.) For live improvisational performance on the Looperlative, generally no = more than 5.=20 Why? Well, because I'm an idiot, quite frankly.=20 I've found that if I start trying to keep up with more than 5 loops, I tend= to begin getting confused about=20 what loop has which content doing what. I may also have one or more loops = which are "bounces" (loops sent=20 out to an external processor -- like a pitch shifter -- then re-recorded on= to another track). So I may have=20 one track which is the original loop and then another that is the exact sam= e loop only effected and mixed=20 back in.=20 Given such circumstances, it's relatively easy to get caught in the middle = of a performance with "now where=20 the hell am I?!?" syndrome. This is especially true during my live perform= ances since, as those of you who=20 saw my Y2k7 set can attest, I have always suffered from extreme stage-frigh= t that borders on the debilitating. 2.) For my "Live Looping as Synthesis" project (which has been on hiatus an= d which I need to get back to),=20 I'll generally use somewhere between 20-100 simultaneous loops/layers. (an= d this is one reason i'm always=20 bugging bob to add an 'undo' function to the lp-1. ;) Why so many? Because when I do this, it's actually using the loop as a for= m of Additive Synthesis. I'm=20 layering the same musical line over and over (and over and over) again usin= g different sine wave harmonics. =20 The first loop is generally recorded with a sine wave tuned to the primary = harmonic (or tonic). The second=20 loop is an overdub of the same musical content, but is played using the 2nd= harmonic. The third is a=20 recording for the 3rd harmonic, then the 4th, etc., etc. Things start to g= et interesting around the 10th or=20 20th harmonic, and depending upon how complex/cacophonous a sound I'm after= , I can keep going. Errr well,=20 unless I blow an overdub, in which case it can get sticky. I guess this could also be considered a single loop with 50 or 60 overdubs,= but I think that's just splitting=20 hairs over terminology. --m. _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... l= ater" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 17:25:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FEDA3BE8D; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:25:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=6aZq5Gs75OSOKvDchwMsCrdbo4Qtp/r7IE/8ivn4J1AgP6uNUk/EJdhB81TvzQCEPZWlReLmeCydR3aj+jKIAmN6HZHcQb4jLFuuqx8JwqXVW2sh+DLv1ryv2RXjgTvxca8wSLIMyO0AJnFJUT4QBMJEgVSyE9nFdd1QMS/a7n4= ; X-YMail-OSG: T61M5AkVM1loKIpUv0ti1wfgS_hCW4jmxhrkKFSLJSWdc7pe.sMHxB5IXjKgydmlK6PzMccQ_uj_Q2FHCcQBfmA- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001b01c8928b$101e4db0$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: Subject: FrEtnoise - Live loopers from Northern Ireland Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:25:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C89293.71539510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:25:39 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C89293.71539510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey folks, We ran our first "FrEtnoise" show in Belfast last Saturday. Some pics = and sounds @ http://rickygraham.blogspot.com/ Live improvisation, Max/MSP, Audio mulch, EDP, Kaos Padd, Wiimote etc.. Do check it out! Take care, Ricky ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C89293.71539510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey folks,
 
We ran our first "FrEtnoise" show in = Belfast last=20 Saturday. Some pics and sounds @ http://rickygraham.blogspot.com= /
 
Live improvisation, Max/MSP, Audio = mulch, EDP, Kaos=20 Padd, Wiimote etc..
 
Do check it out!
 
Take care,
 
Ricky
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C89293.71539510-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 19:10:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE9873BE8E; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=xHnj44jCZMsTgeHYOYW6ezdNabpc4Pfu4Cv9KjYkERA=; b=kXZx78RLwcdMtTtnZNU35Rr6wLBobhO003eNCk1Q2pLbTOWqSHJaaEF9LcfqqyOBgPtwUHEJWVTdGgMqMMCX8D9BY722jp2dVheU4Sb/JiLxrJxnzMN6UM8OQxhcKh/xg07tsQyWzBvkGH0dgxMvpMt60cj7R3IzgaG9fbFgU8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=XWIlYIwUjiKRzzhamTX+EPI+Y5iDlpV4r8Nb2/cKQ3rWT8pHjlQLXl+NWDa17XL2iV3Fb7mEo3M5NtvwAjBh3ckKQOQu7abrYj8rLKYBQbnfW01F9VVa+cN9if8VQ4wWlOP7a96qu5b2+twXLiX3r8QR/IslsfpK8fKDGe598TY= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:10:19 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8734_4882520.1206904219634" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3a206f09644e636e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:10:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8734_4882520.1206904219634 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ... Kris, I really found your post about mastering the guitar your ability, skills an= d superior knowledge, very po-faced and rather disgusting and surprising coming from you! I do acknowledge that you have some quite considerable skill in some kind of Jazz style guitar and you are someone with real devotion to the experimental side of things that I applaud! But really... this was self congratulatory and condescending. You whined: Albeit, for artists who have not mastered their instruments, who are intermediate players, and are not comfortable playing solo or looping with just one accompanying loop, creating a wall of sound with loops, based on more basic and easily executable parts, is an relatively easy way for them to sound "better" or more accomplished than they really are. I know this will likely irritate or offend some beginner loopers, but it's the fact of the matter, and something looping technology has allowed. I was irritated and offended by that, and Ive been playing for 38 years, played over a thousand gigs, and was on this list before you even had a delay pedal... (sic) What IS it with people that they have to go on and on about skill, and talent and ability... Did PUNK mean NOTHING to you guys...??? We=B4re all getting on a bit on this list now, and NOW comes the danger that with wives and kids and mortgages, we sit back and pull out all those old King Crimson albums, going "nothing like the old stuff is there..." Now Im not saying that letting a loop build and build till the ubiquitous wall of noise is really terribly interesting, no no, I keep MY loops very thin, prefering subs undo=B4s and inserts to overdubs, but blimey... I neve= r thought LD would get so Muso!!! I hear alot of talk about REALLY FUCKING expensive bits of kit, and frankly wonder how some of you afford to keep changing it , upgrading it and buying the latest thing... I know I can=B4t (although my modular synth is a bit of a money pit - dont tell the wife) an= d I despair... well... this is rambling now... Ive gone off the point a bit..= . not only a bad guitarist, but a bad writer... sorry... I don't mean to have a go specifically at you Kris, i respect alot of what you have done, but please stop the... "Oh the Youngsters have a lot to learn" talk... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice... Mark... PS: Anyone got a torrent for Altares Auto Tune?? ------=_Part_8734_4882520.1206904219634 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ... Kris,
I really found your post about mastering the guitar your abil= ity, skills and superior knowledge, very po-faced and rather disgusting and= surprising coming from you! I do acknowledge that you have some quite cons= iderable skill in some kind of Jazz style guitar and you are someone with r= eal devotion to the experimental side of things that I applaud!
But really... this was self congratulatory and condescending.

You wh= ined:
Albeit, for artists who have not mastered their instruments, who are
intermediate players, and are not comfortable playing solo or looping with<= br> just one accompanying loop, creating a wall of sound with loops, based on more basic and easily executable parts, is an relatively easy way for them<= br> to sound "better" or more accomplished than they really are. I kn= ow this
will likely irritate or offend some beginner loopers, but it's the fact= of
the matter, and something looping technology has allowed.

I was irr= itated and offended by that, and Ive been playing for 38 years, played over= a thousand gigs, and was on this list before you even had a delay pedal...= (sic)

What IS it with people that they have to go on and on about skill, and = talent and ability... Did PUNK mean NOTHING to you guys...??? We=B4re all g= etting on a bit on this list now, and NOW comes the danger that with wives = and kids and mortgages, we sit back and pull out all those old King Crimson= albums, going "nothing like the old stuff is there..."

Now Im not saying that letting a loop build and build till the ubiquito= us wall of noise is really terribly interesting, no no, I keep MY loops ver= y thin, prefering subs undo=B4s and inserts to overdubs, but blimey... I ne= ver thought LD would get so Muso!!! I hear alot of talk about REALLY FUCKIN= G expensive bits of kit, and frankly wonder how some of you afford to keep = changing it , upgrading it and buying the latest thing... I know I can=B4t = (although my modular synth is a bit of a money pit - dont tell the wife) an= d I despair... well... this is rambling now... Ive gone off the point a bit= ... not only a bad guitarist, but a bad writer... sorry...

I don't mean to have a go specifically at you Kris, i respect alot = of what you have done, but please stop the... "Oh the Youngsters have = a lot to learn" talk... Its the non musician youngsters that will brin= g the next breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to n= otice...


Mark...


PS: Anyone got a torrent for Altares Auto Tune??=





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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 20:33:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A6C13BE93; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=V7gRXBpYTAaKKXVHxfuQZXR8aXcXNkgNGUamc9bvDsliFT2Q2NfNPkePsZeM7Kwut77WDSO1QFAM0uvE7wui2o2ZOkuRogx2y09ay2zAylNPx6IG4HOoob7TktznMaIDjddKkDVFwAezQMGSGjKgKYZLvw6su+IMQ8DNsZViK4k= ; X-YMail-OSG: vX652uUVM1ktZuILyWp3ftAv4lGh29DcMTROwfEOWfSl1UW6K.WcOQVEW6lvswmW9E.SEBt63zSpnx5T0T4ARNt8zYHJz4dVOtLRnc4zEfjxBB1r X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:09:21 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Blimey Things are getting interesting here! MS www.mattstevensguitar.com On 30 Mar 2008, at 20:10, mark francombe wrote: > ... Kris, > I really found your post about mastering the guitar your ability, =20 > skills and superior knowledge, very po-faced and rather disgusting =20 > and surprising coming from you! I do acknowledge that you have some =20= > quite considerable skill in some kind of Jazz style guitar and you =20 > are someone with real devotion to the experimental side of things =20 > that I applaud! > But really... this was self congratulatory and condescending. > > You whined: > Albeit, for artists who have not mastered their instruments, who are > intermediate players, and are not comfortable playing solo or =20 > looping with > just one accompanying loop, creating a wall of sound with loops, =20 > based on > more basic and easily executable parts, is an relatively easy way =20 > for them > to sound "better" or more accomplished than they really are. I know =20= > this > will likely irritate or offend some beginner loopers, but it's the =20 > fact of > the matter, and something looping technology has allowed. > > I was irritated and offended by that, and Ive been playing for 38 =20 > years, played over a thousand gigs, and was on this list before you =20= > even had a delay pedal... (sic) > > What IS it with people that they have to go on and on about skill, =20 > and talent and ability... Did PUNK mean NOTHING to you guys...??? We=20= > =B4re all getting on a bit on this list now, and NOW comes the danger =20= > that with wives and kids and mortgages, we sit back and pull out =20 > all those old King Crimson albums, going "nothing like the old =20 > stuff is there..." > > Now Im not saying that letting a loop build and build till the =20 > ubiquitous wall of noise is really terribly interesting, no no, I =20 > keep MY loops very thin, prefering subs undo=B4s and inserts to =20 > overdubs, but blimey... I never thought LD would get so Muso!!! I =20 > hear alot of talk about REALLY FUCKING expensive bits of kit, and =20 > frankly wonder how some of you afford to keep changing it , =20 > upgrading it and buying the latest thing... I know I can=B4t =20 > (although my modular synth is a bit of a money pit - dont tell the =20 > wife) and I despair... well... this is rambling now... Ive gone off =20= > the point a bit... not only a bad guitarist, but a bad writer... =20 > sorry... > > I don't mean to have a go specifically at you Kris, i respect alot =20 > of what you have done, but please stop the... "Oh the Youngsters =20 > have a lot to learn" talk... Its the non musician youngsters that =20 > will bring the next breakthrough in music, and we will be too old =20 > and miserable to notice... > > > Mark... > > > PS: Anyone got a torrent for Altares Auto Tune?? > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 20:42:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE9633BE8F; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <001b01c8928b$101e4db0$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> References: <001b01c8928b$101e4db0$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <0ff503d4fb590c9467b6881ad1cfdcd6@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: FrEtnoise - Live loopers from Northern Ireland Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 13:42:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:42:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I liked listening to your online samples. But I found them waaaaay too short. Post more and longer ones. I think there is very interesting stuff happening there. It would be great to have a chance to hear bigger chunks of it. It's like there is just enough there to provide a whiff of an aroma but=20= not enough for a real taste. It's great to hear of musicians pushing the edge (as it were) from all=20= over the globe. Nice to hear from the Irish corner of it. Best regards, Ted Killian On Mar 30, 2008, at 10:25 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > Hey folks, > =A0 > We ran our first "FrEtnoise" show in Belfast last Saturday. Some pics=20= > and sounds @ http://rickygraham.blogspot.com/ > =A0 > Live improvisation, Max/MSP, Audio mulch, EDP, Kaos Padd, Wiimote = etc.. > =A0 > Do check it out! > =A0 > Take care, > =A0 > Ricky= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 21:10:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C71E73BE98; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=K2n8srNV0+AZpQ4832N1L7a2mOOeL3REf+lFJCdA3Ow/VgMY+Uxw0zYyf81OBspQF93v4xYgZrB0gerZNbldM7kEG+9M/g9hKmS5GAIWj8Wgm+25UD5gqmVFsKiA+QPNFGElZdOFu21t5m3Q08AiBSNG9C1NNfAKANSe6M+ZHYw=; X-YMail-OSG: yDBcK6UVM1mqyCBhMv6NF_aAOs.FChfca1c5WJFw_eLJBDhOwxJPhWGEU_oCSubLnJjGiUzy7CnPFBlWyOaJ0GUJiOy28gahUr_A2LOd7fZaKLjlEiaKzMx9hgt2Ww-- Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:10:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Gregory Schultz Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <374569.64949.qm@web53903.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6ExtbB.A.eeE.IHA8HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:10:32 +0000 (UTC) UNSUBSCRIBE RELIGION is for people who believe there is a hell: SPIRITUALITY is for those who've already BEEN THERE. ____________________________________________________________________________________ No Cost - Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now. Sweet deal for Yahoo! users and friends. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text1.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 21:34:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1DF33BE93; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RMk2O7q3CkOoePbGNpKADHgCyLJrE6TF9vaXlTyIlglciA18kRp9NXcTea2DiCFAYKG4vpsCMKRckQZXqPU8g8wEH0zW/pht+GalVD5uKo/hvmz6WxdF2O0d3P7ZT0Dk0CoCFK5hPfxcYE5zZGaCaZKTCQckkJ1fax7XygZKYZY=; X-YMail-OSG: IW3ZeK0VM1nfsoon4zy4KByxfQvs3OKUQh8Ennv14ZtRuOhps_L3BNwNcgTZqFxKWP8pejovYJEBKnGx8FX5Bklu0E6asnfkhMHpD1r.0pYAgn8EPakZo35.EC1KMw-- Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:34:15 -0700 (PDT) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Cd packaging To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <47ED2765.3070800@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1666439113-1206912855=:30097" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <388607.30097.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:34:16 +0000 (UTC) --0-1666439113-1206912855=:30097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For those crafty-types, here's some video on how to make your own origami-like cd cases from paper. On the right-hand side of the page are videos for different styles of cases. http://www.instructables.com/id/CD-Case-from-normal-printer-paper./ You could stick one of those nubs Ted K mentioned in the middle of these things... the other Ted. Daryl Shawn wrote: For my old band's last release, I bought a quantity of brown recycled cardboard CD mailers, then had a huge rubber stamp made to my design, about eight inches wide. I managed to also find a huge red inking pad, then individually stamped each cover. I made two other smaller stamps to add a bit more info on the back, put the cd inside in a thin CD envelope, and printed the liner notes myself which I also slipped inside. They looked great and unique, and were really cheap to make, I think the stamp cost me about $30 US and the mailers were less than a dollar each. The final package was also easy to mail as they were nearly flat. (Here's a pic of a bunch of them drying - I underinked some for a rougher appearance...http://www.mhorse.com/Gfx/snuff_floor.jpg) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > the uline folders are great, but please consider this: > the cd may get scratched by the carton when inserting/taking it out. > the material is too strong to go through a printer. so you may have to > work with glue/stickers or hand painting. > > smooth looping - tilmann > >> Someone on one of the lists I'm on (possibly even LD) >> posted this a few months back: >> > > "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard --------------------------------- Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now --0-1666439113-1206912855=:30097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For those crafty-types, here's some video on how to make your own origami-like cd cases from paper.  On the right-hand side of the page are videos for different styles of cases.

    http://www.instructables.com/id/CD-Case-from-normal-printer-paper./

    You could stick one of those nubs Ted K mentioned in the middle of these things...


    the other Ted.



    Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
    For my old band's last release, I bought a quantity of brown recycled
    cardboard CD mailers, then had a huge rubber stamp made to my design,
    about eight inches wide. I managed to also find a huge red inking pad,
    then individually stamped each cover. I made two other smaller stamps to
    add a bit more info on the back, put the cd inside in a thin CD
    envelope, and printed the liner notes myself which I also slipped
    inside. They looked great and unique, and were really cheap to make, I
    think the stamp cost me about $30 US and the mailers were less than a
    dollar each. The final package was also easy to mail as they were nearly
    flat.

    (Here's a pic of a bunch of them drying - I underinked some for a
    rougher appearance...http://www.mhorse.com/Gfx/snuff_floor.jpg)

    Daryl Shawn
    www.swanwelder.com
    www.chinapaintingmusic.com

    > the uline folders are great, but please consider this:
    > the cd may get scratched by the carton when inserting/taking it out.
    > the material is too strong to go through a printer. so you may have to
    > work with glue/stickers or hand painting.
    >
    > smooth looping - tilmann
    >
    >> Someone on one of the lists I'm on (possibly even LD)
    >> posted this a few months back:
    >>
    >
    >




    "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard

    Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now --0-1666439113-1206912855=:30097-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 21:54:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A037F3BE98; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:54:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:56:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0032_01C892C1.A138B250" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18dIM0TAdjgisB+MIHdQN3wzQ5oVsj14jJ68Xv L5w2IHNY9cW9UQFpll0BfcBNp3QTXslWhkBEcfIzhLgPoHiNws 9ycpWG4PdSc+MxCgNaem/sQh6vjM0g5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:54:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C892C1.A138B250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next = breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice... the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise quite = some time ago - they are called DJs... tilmann ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C892C1.A138B250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next = breakthrough=20 in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice...
     
    the non musicians already changed the = face of our=20 earth musicwise quite some time ago - they are called = DJs...
     
    tilmann


    ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01C892C1.A138B250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 22:02:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3546A3BEAE; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oegTEHMkvaNd2Ly9bUE1AbZlkhlhFht94qNojQWU+QiYKeRRxNWDYQ9gFNRYYwQ5sFl9QUOd4M9h5rWzvKsbF1By08eyE4nSN66CCqJel9KkW0I/X8jDHT5sMxP9FOluBhbgcgrUUm/DG1FO3S6j4r0wh7GNdirjP2XioaI8lLw= ; X-YMail-OSG: TXR1LA8VM1mH8UbXDdo7EtJUwEH.EeQKPZXuEqYG2ZwZsvrTMsOpYKv0_T.G9swcBONkuwEiDEmqKqrjEup_nJdD7hvO1prEbEjszuntbktS7hL4 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:01:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0152_01C892BA.0E51BFB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:02:03 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C892BA.0E51BFB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FAO: tilmann, Are you saying DJ's aren't musician's? It's somewhat ignorant to make = such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's who are very musical about = their work, and are more musical than many so-called "musicians." If I = have taken what you said out of context, apologies.=20 Ricky From: Tilmann Dehnhard=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next = breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice... the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise = quite some time ago - they are called DJs... tilmann -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: = 29/03/2008 17:02 ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C892BA.0E51BFB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    FAO: tilmann,
     
    Are you saying DJ's aren't musician's? = It's=20 somewhat ignorant to make such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's who = are=20 very musical about their work, and are more musical than many so-called=20 "musicians." If I have taken what you said out of context, apologies.=20
     
    Ricky
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    ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next = breakthrough=20 in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice...
     
    the non musicians already changed the = face of our=20 earth musicwise quite some time ago - they are called = DJs...
     
    tilmann


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    ------=_NextPart_000_0152_01C892BA.0E51BFB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 22:04:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D66D3BEA6; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:04:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=gk2K3F5BIAyyvJmmmqp66LxJ4BcrOmfkKiEdt41cXIM=; b=QcBmpyidXj9XtPWegmPdcbcVq5VSfmeWDekrzUZmiA+trq9gM9Y4HKFHpxI9AJnvQbo4HHB6KMUiCPMJ8NAkbVws42MWkxQpcDBC9EvffDgsGP4iflbGNbGdhJYtAVJ2ysLU7MuuYhZlFSFzg9SlLSLGy5clodFIsIkGqKcAUXc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=BSS5nqdc4q80Mh6J4RKB4JRmGqlbsxb6zEp8L+YNVg1tNdYwYmAPpKMHsNAQ4a6EQiynRS7ay84qpvIFkXOb6kimfb3nuJS2VpSPMgpl/NRzjAP3zjXxuKW3aIihBESvZiyKYgQcwOQDnPn6SScNoyaAzWN8FNdExZI1RQRA0Ps= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803301504g71e0aee7y1eede49acef47180@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:04:03 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9267_5946755.1206914643717" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c4f3cb50a8784378 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:04:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9267_5946755.1206914643717 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You know... I re read what I wrote and realise I was a tad aggressive there... sorry Kris... My son fell down the stairs today and we had to take him to Casualty... I'm probably a bit on-edge. I don't really take back what I said, Im afraid that all the really interesting music I have seen has been done by relatively unskillful musicians, with great ideas and commitment, and most great instrumentalists I know make boring music. But I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... oh... and that dig about loopers with too much money... that also appeared to be directed at Kris, but wasnt. Im really talking about that I would like to see more really in depth discussion between loopers about their current set-ups and tools (which we do get) and less of the... "well I dont know how to solve your problem cos thats a pedal you are talking about, BUT I USE this program running inside this program one a super fast and expensive mac and have spent months programming extra bits and bobs cos its really doesn't work right out of the box so you will never be able to do what I achieve so you might as well " shit.. ranting again... go to bed Mark m ------=_Part_9267_5946755.1206914643717 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You know... I re read what I wrote and realise I was a tad aggressive there... sorry Kris... My son fell down the stairs today and we had to take him to Casualty... I'm probably a bit on-edge.
    I don't really take back what I said, Im afraid that all the really interesting music I have seen has been done by relatively unskillful musicians, with great ideas and commitment, and most great instrumentalists I know make boring music.
    But I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...

    oh... and that dig about loopers with too much money... that also appeared to be directed at Kris, but wasnt. Im really talking about that I would like to see more really in depth discussion between loopers about their current set-ups and tools (which we do get) and less of the... "well I dont know how to solve your problem cos thats a pedal you are talking about, BUT I USE this program running inside this program one a super fast and expensive mac and have spent months programming extra bits and bobs cos its really doesn't work right out of the box so you will never be able to do what I achieve so you might as well "

    shit.. ranting again... go to bed Mark

    m
      ------=_Part_9267_5946755.1206914643717-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 22:05:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05CA33BEA9; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=ZVohVkgU2sf/0gY+b67VdsR9Iq6KytX3FOM7+DSlccOPCaKfByZOOTjoQEOP6gvagtyhzDVwcN5dCzcqizdMgfwaSBiQRlRMY3kbbJjeOUKVnXEoGKUh1bmOpxuKvJKRYXO0GoHKv+Kj/5RZdE3mdbLb4nDLIx6EpcXUx8kNnMo= ; X-YMail-OSG: awTPLF0VM1lks.TCL3jvccJAgLZ4jQeUKVo99r.2cAoRyNigXeamGoQ_7QeiiAzVL9ueW76Rew-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 In-Reply-To: <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-974269193 Message-Id: <85C0A679-E4E9-461C-BF7B-E6A094D76231@btinternet.com> From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:05:35 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: <9WnG_D.A._EG.46A8HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:05:44 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-974269193 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Exactly Aphex Twin and Squarepusher etc have down loads to advance things just ask Radiohead On 30 Mar 2008, at 22:56, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next > breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to > notice... > > the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise > quite some time ago - they are called DJs... > > tilmann > > --Apple-Mail-2-974269193 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Exactly Aphex Twin and Squarepusher etc have down loads to advance = things just ask Radiohead

    On 30 Mar 2008, at 22:56, = Tilmann Dehnhard wrote:

    ... Its the non musician = youngsters that will bring the next breakthrough in music, and we will = be too old and miserable to notice...
    =A0
    the non musicians already changed the face of = our earth musicwise quite some time ago - they are called = DJs...
    =A0
    tilmann



    = --Apple-Mail-2-974269193-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 22:11:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB1AB3BEC5; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=zQgHItxJsmX3Rn9lQeh73+TLeA1mmLkdSh88ZOg7UoI=; b=qeNAGvAOWi71CJW+/N8swQpGePn+vf48CD9XZFkfcGKx9A4LgU0UDWSW2XHQpecKWiPdvZl6wAkhmAAl3d4hGHa+rvvU4qPe8H5TaxE8r0rxGzwT9xrLnqcXsuoGeHl6PAAENEDskjUOTgnfY478LhDXP3e4WOPbLabYvHfzL3Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=l5yzv3R6CduFewZ5ihSAj0zBjwEba7NagYOwppaKR+hm4sNp6xQB8+Tt90BZNj0dQrAcVrQwoH/sLO+swqc2SKIFec20zBuR6pl6nmkOGMYY6P5s4jy7B9ADxf0ITkWXOVSW1Ez8+MThc0Hn5eWlC1ZFT/lP6ihpKkKDFZmQW9I= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0803301511r214eba99macfa42792a70697c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:11:34 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? In-Reply-To: <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9299_3557021.1206915094672" References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> X-Google-Sender-Auth: c3233de44789688c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:11:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9299_3557021.1206915094672 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline YIKES.. everyone is tetchy now sorry... sorry sorry sorry... I think the example of a DJ is a great... they are traditionally NON musicians, but have incredible skill... I was more talking about BAD musicians.. as in a guitarist who doesn't know the names of chords, or can only really play in A and E, certainly cant play fast and certainly doesn't play chords with numbers in them (6ths and 7ths) with looping and /or effects they can be truly wonderful. I just remember the time I saw Joy Division, Jesus and Mary Chain, Kraftwerk... none were particularly dextrous in the fingering department. I AM A LOOPER... Stand proud!! m ------=_Part_9299_3557021.1206915094672 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    YIKES.. everyone is tetchy now sorry... sorry  sorry sorry...

    I think the example of a DJ is a great... they are traditionally NON musicians, but have incredible skill... I was more talking about BAD musicians.. as in a guitarist who doesn't know the names of chords, or can only really play in A and E, certainly cant play fast and certainly doesn't play chords with numbers in them (6ths and 7ths) with looping and /or effects they can be truly wonderful. I just remember the time I saw Joy Division, Jesus and Mary Chain, Kraftwerk... none were particularly dextrous in the fingering department.

    I AM A LOOPER... Stand proud!!

    m
    ------=_Part_9299_3557021.1206915094672-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 22:18:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A71D3BEC5; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:18:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=f60tNf8H7DcZV/WWKIIQOTcu8Hsvpfo2cG0sN0q5EPAzuyDbG1DQ+gafyzgW2r9fShfVTBiySkjZloIud6P8dMZGt3gOFhuK9k1jogv4rks4A9VIwLk8plz3HKCPN4X8jk1tuzxw13k1js+wKBNADZ9t7UXLGQq7zR2JDT2AZks= ; X-YMail-OSG: uiGW1sQVM1msOLUs1ZHTNnPzpvCyFoX9JFaPlqBUX7950sttCxohlsDsRfyi2jFwSRSqlAwvfGychq.ZOiLscsk- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <017c01c892b3$f906e8c0$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> <9ab0c76f0803301511r214eba99macfa42792a70697c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:18:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0179_01C892BC.5A2DFF50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:18:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01C892BC.5A2DFF50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Traditional" Music sensibilities just annoy me. lol :-) oh well. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mark francombe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:11 PM Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? YIKES.. everyone is tetchy now sorry... sorry sorry sorry... I think the example of a DJ is a great... they are traditionally NON = musicians, but have incredible skill... I was more talking about BAD = musicians.. as in a guitarist who doesn't know the names of chords, or = can only really play in A and E, certainly cant play fast and certainly = doesn't play chords with numbers in them (6ths and 7ths) with looping = and /or effects they can be truly wonderful. I just remember the time I = saw Joy Division, Jesus and Mary Chain, Kraftwerk... none were = particularly dextrous in the fingering department. I AM A LOOPER... Stand proud!! m -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: = 29/03/2008 17:02 ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01C892BC.5A2DFF50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
     
    "Traditional" Music sensibilities = just annoy=20 me. lol :-) oh well.
    ----- Original Message -----
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    YIKES.. everyone is tetchy now sorry... sorry  = sorry=20 sorry...

    I think the example of a DJ is a great... they are=20 traditionally NON musicians, but have incredible skill... I was more = talking=20 about BAD musicians.. as in a guitarist who doesn't know the names of = chords,=20 or can only really play in A and E, certainly cant play fast and = certainly=20 doesn't play chords with numbers in them (6ths and 7ths) with looping = and /or=20 effects they can be truly wonderful. I just remember the time I saw = Joy=20 Division, Jesus and Mary Chain, Kraftwerk... none were particularly = dextrous=20 in the fingering department.

    I AM A LOOPER... Stand=20 proud!!

    m

    No virus found in this incoming message.
    Checked by AVG.=20
    Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date:=20 29/03/2008 17:02
    ------=_NextPart_000_0179_01C892BC.5A2DFF50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 30 23:11:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 109CA3BEAF; Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:11:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <59F605C9-EAAF-4B70-B1D1-C6A9434DD67C@steve-lawson.co.uk> From: Steve Lawson To: Loop List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-978233176 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Two free albums to download... Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:11:39 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:11:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-978233176 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh yes, Loopettes, you read that right, TWO delicious free albums - volumes one and two in the 'Lessons Learned From An Aged Feline' series. Part 1 can be had from Last.fm -http://www.last.fm/music/Steve+Lawson/Lessons+Learnt+From+An+Aged+Feline+Pt+I for Part 2, you have to go to http://www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson - and sign up for the mailing list there, then you can download all of that one too! Anyway, that's about two hours of lovely tunes for you! enjoy - feel free to post reviews, links, tweets and spread the word! Sorry I've not been around here much of late (just in case any of you noticed :o) I've been very active on my blog of late - have a look at http://steve.anthropiccollective.org for more on that. And on Twitter. Twitter rules. :o) take care, Steve xx Where to find me on the web - _______________________ ********************************* *** www.stevelawson.net - site *** http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog *** www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson *** www.reverbnation.com/stevelawson *** www.twitter.com/solobasssteve *** http://www.youtube.com/user/StevieSteve46 - loads of new video here! --Apple-Mail-8-978233176 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Oh yes, Loopettes, you read = that right, TWO delicious free albums - volumes one and two in the = 'Lessons Learned =46rom An Aged Feline' series.

    Part 1 can be had = from Last.fm -http://www.last.fm/music/Steve+Lawson/Lessons+Learnt+From+An+Aged+Feline= +Pt+I

    for Part 2, you have to go to www.stevelawson.net - = site
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    ------=_Part_4684_2745933.1206918752992-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 00:07:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 915F93BEC3; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:07:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-9-975818014 Message-Id: <2475B48C-0219-4CA3-9284-05ED599BDEC2@seanmormelo.com> From: Sean Mormelo Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:31:24 +0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator159.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - seanmormelo.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:07:31 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-9-975818014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed oh shit here we go with this again.....Yes i'm saying it..DJ's are sound artists but a Musician as such entails playing a musical instrument. That is the difference. Many DJ's are MUCH more artistic then many musicians. :) On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: > FAO: tilmann, > > Are you saying DJ's aren't musician's? It's somewhat ignorant to > make such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's who are very > musical about their work, and are more musical than many so-called > "musicians." If I have taken what you said out of context, apologies. > > Ricky > From: Tilmann Dehnhard > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:56 PM > Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? > > ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next > breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to > notice... > > the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise > quite some time ago - they are called DJs... > > tilmann > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: > 29/03/2008 17:02 Sean Mormelo sean@seanmormelo.com www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo --Apple-Mail-9-975818014 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 oh shit here we go with this again.....Yes i'm saying it..DJ's are = sound artists but a Musician as such entails playing a musical = instrument. That is the difference. Many DJ's are MUCH more artistic = then many musicians. :)

    On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, = Ricky Graham wrote:

    FAO: tilmann,
    =A0
    Are you = saying DJ's aren't musician's? It's somewhat ignorant to make such a = generalisation! I know of many DJ's who are very musical about their = work, and are more musical than many so-called "musicians." If I have = taken what you said out of context, apologies.
    =A0
    Ricky
    From:=A0Tilmann Dehnhard
    Sent:=A0Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:56 = PM
    =A0Re: HOW = MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY?

    ... Its = the non musician youngsters that will bring the next breakthrough in = music, and we will be too old and miserable to = notice...
    =A0
    the = non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise quite some = time ago - they are called DJs...
    =A0
    tilmann




    No virus found in this incoming = message.
    Checked by AVG.=A0
    Version: 7.5.519 / Virus = Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: 29/03/2008 = 17:02

    Sean = Mormelo
    ww= w.seanmormelo.com
    www.myspace.com/seanmormelo



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    = --Apple-Mail-9-975818014-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 00:19:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 194BD3BEC1; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:19:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wJMj6wJdHr54vYBsUxTWfdY8NwV3rBXtEkAmSPNGufD+U+AqAi2bpeirQckZ5s1OgPPEAAqBJALBM4kX+xSpHXWyNDUnaUqZ+Mp+r1dEYV7YgyNY8QW79+xyKlesgJfyMoVQR3+C2HQGzdW2+wQd57WTY8GAbGUU7wRaLUGtWwo= ; X-YMail-OSG: dkRjOq8VM1mBK67vjXLXquMQjHICjTg7DoCF8PvsPlVwNNip82ZDJHB58JE0ohb0bTCEiyyklhuKVH6f0Cd3_4LtgA3VYnpq85a9V.DkNmae9aFw X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001301c892c4$e9f8ef70$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> <2475B48C-0219-4CA3-9284-05ED599BDEC2@seanmormelo.com> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:19:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C892CD.4B1DBC10" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:19:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C892CD.4B1DBC10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tilmann, I understand what you're saying. I wasn't having a go, just that I = believe DJ's can be 'musical' with their art. Some might believe a = turntable to be an instrument? Just a thought.. Cheers, Ricky ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sean Mormelo=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? oh shit here we go with this again.....Yes i'm saying it..DJ's are = sound artists but a Musician as such entails playing a musical = instrument. That is the difference. Many DJ's are MUCH more artistic = then many musicians. :) On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: FAO: tilmann, Are you saying DJ's aren't musician's? It's somewhat ignorant to = make such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's who are very musical = about their work, and are more musical than many so-called "musicians." = If I have taken what you said out of context, apologies. Ricky From: Tilmann Dehnhard To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next = breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice... the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise = quite some time ago - they are called DJs... tilmann -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: = 29/03/2008 17:02 Sean Mormelo sean@seanmormelo.com www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: = 29/03/2008 17:02 ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C892CD.4B1DBC10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi Tilmann,
     
    I understand what you're saying. I = wasn't having a=20 go, just that I believe DJ's can be 'musical' with their art. Some=20 might believe a turntable to be an instrument? Just a=20 thought..
     
    Cheers,
     
    Ricky
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Sean=20 Mormelo
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 = 11:31=20 PM
    Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO = YOU USE=20 SIMLUTANEOUSLY?

    oh shit here we go with this again.....Yes i'm saying = it..DJ's=20 are sound artists but a Musician as such entails playing a musical = instrument.=20 That is the difference. Many DJ's are MUCH more artistic then many = musicians.=20 :)

    On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:
    FAO: tilmann,
     
    Are you saying DJ's aren't = musician's? It's=20 somewhat ignorant to make such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's = who are=20 very musical about their work, and are more musical than many = so-called=20 "musicians." If I have taken what you said out of context,=20 apologies.
     
    Ricky
    From:     Tilmann Dehnhard
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
    Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 = 10:56=20 PM
    Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO = YOU USE=20 SIMLUTANEOUSLY?

    ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next=20 breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to=20 notice...
     
    the non musicians already changed = the face of=20 our earth musicwise quite some time ago - they are called=20 DJs...
     
    tilmann




    No virus found in = this=20 incoming message.
    Checked by AVG. 
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    Sean Mormelo
    www.seanmormelo.com
    www.myspace.com/seanmormelo



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    ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C892CD.4B1DBC10-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 00:29:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 811F13BEA4; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <017501c892c6$40155960$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:29:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0172_01C89293.F4EE39C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <2bksH.A.vyC.YBD8HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:29:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C89293.F4EE39C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's too bad. I'm sorry you misinterpreted my post, Mark. /K ----- Original Message -----=20 ... Kris,=20 I really found your post about mastering the guitar your ability, = skills and superior knowledge, very po-faced and rather disgusting and = surprising coming from you! I do acknowledge that you have some quite = considerable skill in some kind of Jazz style guitar and you are someone = with real devotion to the experimental side of things that I applaud! But really... this was self congratulatory and condescending. You whined: Albeit, for artists who have not mastered their instruments, who are intermediate players, and are not comfortable playing solo or looping = with just one accompanying loop, creating a wall of sound with loops, based = on more basic and easily executable parts, is an relatively easy way for = them to sound "better" or more accomplished than they really are. I know = this will likely irritate or offend some beginner loopers, but it's the = fact of the matter, and something looping technology has allowed.=20 I was irritated and offended by that, and Ive been playing for 38 = years, played over a thousand gigs, and was on this list before you even = had a delay pedal... (sic) What IS it with people that they have to go on and on about skill, and = talent and ability... Did PUNK mean NOTHING to you guys...??? We=B4re = all getting on a bit on this list now, and NOW comes the danger that = with wives and kids and mortgages, we sit back and pull out all those = old King Crimson albums, going "nothing like the old stuff is there..."=20 Now Im not saying that letting a loop build and build till the = ubiquitous wall of noise is really terribly interesting, no no, I keep = MY loops very thin, prefering subs undo=B4s and inserts to overdubs, but = blimey... I never thought LD would get so Muso!!! I hear alot of talk = about REALLY FUCKING expensive bits of kit, and frankly wonder how some = of you afford to keep changing it , upgrading it and buying the latest = thing... I know I can=B4t (although my modular synth is a bit of a money = pit - dont tell the wife) and I despair... well... this is rambling = now... Ive gone off the point a bit... not only a bad guitarist, but a = bad writer... sorry... I don't mean to have a go specifically at you Kris, i respect alot of = what you have done, but please stop the... "Oh the Youngsters have a lot = to learn" talk... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the = next breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to = notice... Mark... PS: Anyone got a torrent for Altares Auto Tune?? ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C89293.F4EE39C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    That's too bad. I'm sorry you = misinterpreted my=20 post, Mark. /K
     
    ----- Original Message -----

    ... Kris,
    I = really found=20 your post about mastering the guitar your ability, skills and superior = knowledge, very po-faced and rather disgusting and surprising coming = from you!=20 I do acknowledge that you have some quite considerable skill in some = kind of=20 Jazz style guitar and you are someone with real devotion to the = experimental=20 side of things that I applaud!
    But really... this was self = congratulatory=20 and condescending.

    You whined:
    Albeit, for artists who have = not=20 mastered their instruments, who are
    intermediate players, and are = not=20 comfortable playing solo or looping with
    just one accompanying = loop,=20 creating a wall of sound with loops, based on
    more basic and easily = executable parts, is an relatively easy way for them
    to sound = "better" or=20 more accomplished than they really are. I know this
    will likely = irritate or=20 offend some beginner loopers, but it's the fact of
    the matter, and=20 something looping technology has allowed.

    I was irritated and = offended=20 by that, and Ive been playing for 38 years, played over a thousand = gigs, and=20 was on this list before you even had a delay pedal... = (sic)

    What IS it=20 with people that they have to go on and on about skill, and talent and = ability... Did PUNK mean NOTHING to you guys...??? We=B4re all getting = on a bit=20 on this list now, and NOW comes the danger that with wives and kids = and=20 mortgages, we sit back and pull out all those old King Crimson albums, = going=20 "nothing like the old stuff is there..."

    Now Im not saying = that=20 letting a loop build and build till the ubiquitous wall of noise is = really=20 terribly interesting, no no, I keep MY loops very thin, prefering subs = undo=B4s=20 and inserts to overdubs, but blimey... I never thought LD would get so = Muso!!!=20 I hear alot of talk about REALLY FUCKING expensive bits of kit, and = frankly=20 wonder how some of you afford to keep changing it , upgrading it and = buying=20 the latest thing... I know I can=B4t (although my modular synth is a = bit of a=20 money pit - dont tell the wife) and I despair... well... this is = rambling=20 now... Ive gone off the point a bit... not only a bad guitarist, but a = bad=20 writer... sorry...

    I don't mean to have a go specifically at = you Kris,=20 i respect alot of what you have done, but please stop the... "Oh the=20 Youngsters have a lot to learn" talk... Its the non musician = youngsters that=20 will bring the next breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and=20 miserable to notice...


    Mark...


    PS: Anyone got a = torrent=20 for Altares Auto = Tune??





    ------=_NextPart_000_0172_01C89293.F4EE39C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 00:31:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24A333BEAF; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:31:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <019001c892c6$85b57220$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0803301504g71e0aee7y1eede49acef47180@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:31:11 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018D_01C89294.3A957E70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:31:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_018D_01C89294.3A957E70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It happens to all of us: emotion over-rules logic. It gets me all of = the time! Absolutely no offense taken on my side...not a tid bid. = I'll read more tonight, once my little ones are in bed. :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 You know... I re read what I wrote and realise I was a tad aggressive = there... sorry Kris... My son fell down the stairs today and we had to = take him to Casualty... I'm probably a bit on-edge. I don't really take back what I said, Im afraid that all the really = interesting music I have seen has been done by relatively unskillful = musicians, with great ideas and commitment, and most great = instrumentalists I know make boring music. But I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get = myself in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble...=20 I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in trouble... oh... and that dig about loopers with too much money... that also = appeared to be directed at Kris, but wasnt. Im really talking about that = I would like to see more really in depth discussion between loopers = about their current set-ups and tools (which we do get) and less of = the... "well I dont know how to solve your problem cos thats a pedal you = are talking about, BUT I USE this program running inside this program = one a super fast and expensive mac and have spent months programming = extra bits and bobs cos its really doesn't work right out of the box so = you will never be able to do what I achieve so you might as well " shit.. ranting again... go to bed Mark m ------=_NextPart_000_018D_01C89294.3A957E70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    It happens to all of us: emotion = over-rules=20 logic.  It gets me all of the time!    Absolutely no = offense=20 taken on my side...not a tid bid. I'll read more tonight, once my little = ones=20 are in bed. :)
     
    Kris
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
     

    You know... I re read what I wrote and realise I was a = tad=20 aggressive there... sorry Kris... My son fell down the stairs today = and we had=20 to take him to Casualty... I'm probably a bit on-edge.
    I don't = really take=20 back what I said, Im afraid that all the really interesting music I = have seen=20 has been done by relatively unskillful musicians, with great ideas and = commitment, and most great instrumentalists I know make boring = music.
    But I=20 must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in=20 trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to = not get=20 myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase = things so as=20 to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I = phrase=20 things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be = careful=20 how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble...
    I must = learn to=20 be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... =
    I=20 must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself = in=20 trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to = not get=20 myself in trouble...
    I must learn to be careful how I phrase = things so as=20 to not get myself in trouble...

    oh... and that dig about = loopers with=20 too much money... that also appeared to be directed at Kris, but = wasnt. Im=20 really talking about that I would like to see more really in depth = discussion=20 between loopers about their current set-ups and tools (which we do = get) and=20 less of the... "well I dont know how to solve your problem cos thats a = pedal=20 you are talking about, BUT I USE this program running inside this = program one=20 a super fast and expensive mac and have spent months programming extra = bits=20 and bobs cos its really doesn't work right out of the box so you will = never be=20 able to do what I achieve so you might as well "

    shit.. ranting = again... go to bed Mark

    m
      ------=_NextPart_000_018D_01C89294.3A957E70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 00:32:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3DFE3BED2; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:32:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01ad01c892c6$acf6e260$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <003601c892b0$dedc2d50$19b2a8c0@netzrechner> <015501c892b1$ad2d1a20$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> <2475B48C-0219-4CA3-9284-05ED599BDEC2@seanmormelo.com> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:32:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C89294.61D938A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:32:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C89294.61D938A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Grab your seats and get ready for the roller coaster joy ride! Yeeee = Hahhhh! =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 oh shit here we go with this again.....Yes i'm saying it..DJ's are = sound artists but a Musician as such entails playing a musical = instrument. That is the difference. Many DJ's are MUCH more artistic = then many musicians. :) On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: FAO: tilmann, Are you saying DJ's aren't musician's? It's somewhat ignorant to = make such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's who are very musical = about their work, and are more musical than many so-called "musicians." = If I have taken what you said out of context, apologies. Ricky From: Tilmann Dehnhard To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next = breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice... the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise = quite some time ago - they are called DJs... tilmann -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: = 29/03/2008 17:02 Sean Mormelo sean@seanmormelo.com www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C89294.61D938A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Grab your seats and get ready for the = roller=20 coaster joy ride!  Yeeee Hahhhh! 
    ----- Original Message -----

     
    oh shit here we go = with this=20 again.....Yes i'm saying it..DJ's are sound artists but a Musician as = such=20 entails playing a musical instrument. That is the difference. Many = DJ's are=20 MUCH more artistic then many musicians. :)

    On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Ricky Graham wrote:
    FAO: tilmann,
     
    Are you saying DJ's aren't = musician's? It's=20 somewhat ignorant to make such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's = who are=20 very musical about their work, and are more musical than many = so-called=20 "musicians." If I have taken what you said out of context,=20 apologies.
     
    Ricky
    From:     Tilmann Dehnhard
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
    Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 = 10:56=20 PM
    Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO = YOU USE=20 SIMLUTANEOUSLY?

    ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next=20 breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to=20 notice...
     
    the non musicians already changed = the face of=20 our earth musicwise quite some time ago - they are called=20 DJs...
     
    tilmann




    No virus found in = this=20 incoming message.
    Checked by AVG. 
    Version: 7.5.519 / = Virus=20 Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: 29/03/2008=20 17:02

    Sean Mormelo
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     ------=_NextPart_000_01AA_01C89294.61D938A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 01:05:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C97923BEC4; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:05:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01c101c892cb$5b559190$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <005401c8920a$b5abc2c0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00d301c8920d$db844cd0$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> <9ab0c76f0803301504g71e0aee7y1eede49acef47180@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 19:05:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:05:45 +0000 (UTC) > You know... I re read what I wrote and realise I was a tad aggressive > there... sorry Kris... My son fell down the stairs today and we had to > take him to Casualty... I'm probably a bit on-edge. KH: I hope your son is alright, Mark. I know how that goes...nerve racking. > I don't really take back what I said, Im afraid that all the really > interesting music I have seen has been done by relatively unskillful > musicians, with great ideas and commitment, and most great > instrumentalists I know make boring music. But I must learn to be careful > how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... I must learn to be careful how I phrase things so as to not get myself in trouble... [clip] KH: Yet, when I re-read my statement, I don't think I said anything that an intermediate player would not admit if they did some soul searching. In fact, they are things I would have admited a while back, and still do admit when it comes to recording moder jazz in the studio, in one take. (sorry, can't do it to the leve of someone like John Stowell, John McLaughlin, Abercombie, etc....I'm not there). How many intermediate players ARE comfortable playing solo where everything they do is exposed. How many intermediate players wouldn't admit that building a lot of loops and layers with more basic parts that they are capable of playing boosts their confidence and allows their output to sound more accomplished that if they tried it on their one, in one shot? I don't see anything anti-commonsensical about any of this....it's all human nature. Why would there be any shame in admiting that looping technology allows one to do things that he/she can't do solo, on his/her own? Is there anything wrong with this? If one has no shame, then what's the rub? Maybe you inserted words inside my paragraph, suggesting I was placing judgement and saying something is wrong with this. I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I think it is a fact within the looping community. > oh... and that dig about loopers with too much money... that also appeared > to be directed at Kris, but wasnt. Im really talking about that I would > like to see more really in depth discussion between loopers about their > current set-ups and tools (which we do get) and less of the... "well I > dont know how to solve your problem cos thats a pedal you are talking > about, BUT I USE this program running inside this program one a super fast > and expensive mac and have spent months programming extra bits and bobs > cos its really doesn't work right out of the box so you will never be able > to do what I achieve so you might as well " KH: Understood, man. shit.. ranting again... go to bed Mark m Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 03:47:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5CFA3BEC2; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000d01c892e1$a62ea1f0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT \(posting\)" Cc: "Y2K LOOPFEST SAVES" , "Mr Dick" , "Rick Walker/Loop.pooL" Subject: SUBMISSIONS Y2K8 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:45:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 03:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Kissinger wrote: "One of the highlights of 2007 was the Y2K7 Live Looping festival. I really want to participate in 2008 -- do we have any word on a 2008 festival yet? I heard rumors that it will be in Pittsburgh, PA...: Because I have produced this festival for the past 8 years and because I am leaving on a long 10 week tour of Scandinavia, Germany and the British Isles in May, I had seriously discussed the possibility of farming out the festival to Pittsburgh this year. Unfortunately, it just didn't work out after we put some serious thought and advanced work into it. So............. I have decided to produce the Y2K8 LOOP FESTIVAL in Santa Cruz again this year on October 18th and 19th. some changes this year: There probably will NOT be a Friday night concert like last year unless I score a really big headliner (Bill Frisell, David Torn, Imogen Heap, Kellar Williams or someone of that stature) but I reserve the right to change my mind at the last minute (smile) and there won't be additional bay area gigs. I feel a little badly about this because I"ve always tried to get gigs for our travelling headliners in past years to make their stays more memorable, but it's just gotten to be too much work to juggle this enormous responsibility every year (especially in a year where I 'm already juggling gigs in 10 countries ahead of time). I will, however, open up to my booking information to travelling loopers so they can book gigs around the event. Additionally, there is a strong possibility that there will be a Southern California version of the Y2K8 International Live Looping Festival the weekend after the Santa Cruz main festival. I'll wait for the promoter of that event to officially announce it with details in his own time. I, unfortunately, just do not have the time to make the festival be as elaborate or as large as it has been in the past years due to time contraints (it took me 4 1/2 months to produce in 2006 and it took me 6 months to produce in 2007), so what I'm going to do is this: I am going to give priority bookings to the artists who come from furthest away and to artists who have never played the festival in the past first. Anyone who is interested in participating again this year should download, read and mail me the official Y2K8 Submission Application. The mailing address is on the FESTIVAL SUBMISSION APPLICATION FRORM available here: http://www.looppool.info/Y2K8submissionAPPLICATION/ Thanks a lot, yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 06:40:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 306553BEA0; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sIpnM9PzMpev3CXL/tUiJoMmjbOWOOw54chKJ3wHatY=; b=lo8ZhvHpRPp1BeP6nSllEnCgweo8SVk+0fjgwZLSW1gLZGRtnPy1ws9IfEPFgLztUOAQjvUkqZ2dc3oG7NJ9sOv79zIDUr1laC0VFkpCkQPv4P9VshbfgQlHUOFCdxczIJiioUO5fJae6dDFe9wHM6O2xa2+XkyhQVZZlV0kAHM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oz+JJaTeYeN1El5rWTywxrg166vsHz3Suh4S+dQnA/whB+uFy5wAPNL9Wq2JHnpzlmAHkklmuicrZJ3RnL41bXozjmjiTGJHab2TfertCOsFD1Xvp4fPYDzM+prvRz7IsqZjcrqMkIbGiU1xS2qQx7mbQZ1TVtwNEXojjrvUCiA= Message-ID: <64b81a780803302340n4fa97ecfg626c47f11feab200@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:40:12 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cd packaging In-Reply-To: <388607.30097.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16810_19693405.1206945612540" References: <47ED2765.3070800@mhorse.com> <388607.30097.qm@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:40:14 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16810_19693405.1206945612540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Neat origami, but a bit time consuming. I've always liked this paper case method. It's fast and simple making it easy to whip up a case if someone hands you a caseless CD. < http://www.curbly.com/DIY-Maven/posts/680-How-to-Make-a-Folded-Paper-CD-Cas= e > Todd On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:34 PM, ditch wrestler wrote: > For those crafty-types, here's some video on how to make your own > origami-like cd cases from paper. On the right-hand side of the page are > videos for different styles of cases. > > http://www.instructables.com/id/CD-Case-from-normal-printer-paper./ > > You could stick one of those nubs Ted K mentioned in the middle of these > things... > > > the other Ted. > > > > > *Daryl Shawn * wrote: > > For my old band's last release, I bought a quantity of brown recycled > cardboard CD mailers, then had a huge rubber stamp made to my design, > about eight inches wide. I managed to also find a huge red inking pad, > then individually stamped each cover. I made two other smaller stamps to > add a bit more info on the back, put the cd inside in a thin CD > envelope, and printed the liner notes myself which I also slipped > inside. They looked great and unique, and were really cheap to make, I > think the stamp cost me about $30 US and the mailers were less than a > dollar each. The final package was also easy to mail as they were nearly > flat. > > (Here's a pic of a bunch of them drying - I underinked some for a > rougher appearance...http://www.mhorse.com/Gfx/snuff_floor.jpg) > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > the uline folders are great, but please consider this: > > the cd may get scratched by the carton when inserting/taking it out. > > the material is too strong to go through a printer. so you may have to > > work with glue/stickers or hand painting. > > > > smooth looping - tilmann > > > >> Someone on one of the lists I'm on (possibly even LD) > >> posted this a few months back: > >> > > > > > > > > > "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, > and an end =97 but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard > > ------------------------------ > Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of > Blockbuster Total Accessnow > ------=_Part_16810_19693405.1206945612540 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Neat origami, but a bit time consuming.  I've always liked this pa= per case method.  It's fast and simple making it easy to whip up a= case if someone hands you a caseless CD.

    <http://w= ww.curbly.com/DIY-Maven/posts/680-How-to-Make-a-Folded-Paper-CD-Case>= ;

    Todd


    On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:34= PM, ditch wrestler <ditchwre= stler@yahoo.com> wrote:
    For those crafty-types, here's some video on how to make your own origa= mi-like cd cases from paper.  On the right-hand side of the page are v= ideos for different styles of cases.

    http://= www.instructables.com/id/CD-Case-from-normal-printer-paper./

    You could stick one of those nubs Ted K mentioned in the middle of thes= e things...


    the other Ted.
    =



    Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote: For my old band's last release, I bought a quantity of brown recycled =
    cardboard CD mailers, then had a huge rubber stamp made to my design, <= br>about eight inches wide. I managed to also find a huge red inking pad, <= br> then individually stamped each cover. I made two other smaller stamps to add a bit more info on the back, put the cd inside in a thin CD
    envel= ope, and printed the liner notes myself which I also slipped
    inside. They looked great and unique, and were really che= ap to make, I
    think the stamp cost me about $30 US and the mailers were= less than a
    dollar each. The final package was also easy to mail as th= ey were nearly
    flat.

    (Here's a pic of a bunch of them drying - I underinked som= e for a
    rougher appearance...http://www.mhorse.com/Gfx/snuff_floor.jpg)=

    Daryl Shawn
    www.swanwelder.com
    www.chinapa= intingmusic.com

    > the uline folders are great, but please con= sider this:
    > the cd may get scratched by the carton when inserting/t= aking it out.
    > the material is too strong to go through a printer. so you may have to=
    > work with glue/stickers or hand painting.
    >
    > smooth = looping - tilmann
    >
    >> Someone on one of the lists I'm o= n (possibly even LD)
    >> posted this a few months back:
    >>
    >
    >



    "Indeed, naturally I think that = a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end =97 but not necessarily = in that order." Jean Luc Goddard

    =20

    Special deal for Yahoo! user= s & friends - No Cost. Get a = month of Blockbuster Total Access now

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 12:07:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 220293BEA0; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=gIxVGioiBenyJ5OhU5uJ6LVVu0BHt1Kv2wvoFef5Ho7F+Igi4o1HfkzyA9cVFQDLyxsxhB1gmPn/lsuXmSR+7Oq26DHHLpwlfvLjEPC5xTswAeZF7xGO8IGK5QUt4eTCh8le2e3S6/kPv6M4qnGVoDaaQTU7oFYdbRBOZFnEBec= ; X-YMail-OSG: SMTbPHcVM1lBenybKT6fJecCrdCXr4oYJDvVWc5tHx_EBFez1q3BKdEXzD2o7cBzcuNCrzUSYhXGrk3wsvauuGI2Cj3behD7eziC81LaUFz59z2F X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001b01c89327$c5e8b8f0$4001a8c0@STUDIO1> From: "Ricky Graham" To: References: <000d01c892e1$a62ea1f0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: SUBMISSIONS Y2K8 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:07:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, Would there be a possibility of getting a slot myself? Thanks, Ricky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Cc: "Y2K LOOPFEST SAVES" ; "Mr Dick" ; "Rick Walker/Loop.pooL" Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:45 AM Subject: SUBMISSIONS Y2K8 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL > Kevin Kissinger wrote: > > "One of the highlights of 2007 was the Y2K7 Live Looping festival. I > really want to participate in 2008 -- do we have any word on a 2008 > festival yet? I heard rumors that it will be in Pittsburgh, PA...: > > Because I have produced this festival for the past 8 years and because I > am > leaving on a long 10 week tour of Scandinavia, Germany and the British > Isles > in May, I had seriously discussed the possibility of farming out the > festival to Pittsburgh this year. > > Unfortunately, it just didn't work out after we put some serious thought > and > advanced work into it. > > So............. I have decided to produce the Y2K8 LOOP FESTIVAL > in Santa Cruz again this year on October 18th and 19th. > > some changes this year: > > There probably will NOT be a Friday night concert like last year unless I > score a really big > headliner (Bill Frisell, David Torn, Imogen Heap, Kellar Williams or > someone of that stature) > but I reserve the right to change my mind at the last minute (smile) and > there > won't be additional bay area gigs. > > I feel a little badly about this because I"ve always tried to get gigs for > our travelling headliners in > past years to make their stays more memorable, but it's just gotten to be > too much work > to juggle this enormous responsibility every year (especially in a year > where I 'm already > juggling gigs in 10 countries ahead of time). I will, however, open up > to my booking information > to travelling loopers so they can book gigs around the event. > > Additionally, there is a strong possibility that there will be > a Southern California version of the Y2K8 International Live Looping > Festival > the weekend after the Santa Cruz main festival. I'll wait for the > promoter of that event > to officially announce it with details in his own time. > > > I, unfortunately, just do not have the time to make the festival be as > elaborate or as large as it > has been in the past years due to time contraints (it took me 4 1/2 > months to produce > in 2006 and it took me 6 months to produce in 2007), > > so what I'm going to do is this: > > I am going to give priority bookings to the artists who come from furthest > away > and to artists who have never played the festival in the past first. > > Anyone who is interested in participating again this year should download, > read and mail me the official Y2K8 Submission Application. > > The mailing address is on the FESTIVAL SUBMISSION APPLICATION FRORM > > available here: > > http://www.looppool.info/Y2K8submissionAPPLICATION/ > > Thanks a lot, yours, Rick Walker > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1350 - Release > Date: 30/03/2008 12:32 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 13:08:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16B593BEB6; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 603 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:08:57 UTC In-Reply-To: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: unsubscribe MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Lotus Notes 653HF134 February 24, 2005 From: Kevin Dix Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 08:58:50 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on EXTHO12/ROHEXT(Release 7.0.2FP2|May 14, 2007) at 03/31/2008 09:08:49 AM, Serialize complete at 03/31/2008 09:08:49 AM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0047541F8625741D_=" Resent-Message-ID: <4Ax-5C.A.LS.pJO8HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:08:57 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0047541F8625741D_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" unsubscribe --=_alternative 0047541F8625741D_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
    unsubscribe --=_alternative 0047541F8625741D_=-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 14:31:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB0D53BEA9; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_91798726-800c-4092-a2a4-1c959029bc6a_" X-Originating-IP: [87.102.79.81] From: phillip wilson To: Subject: RE: OT: transmitting music with no wires Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:31:20 +0000 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <47EC1C76.3090809@unguitar.com> References: <47EC1C76.3090809@unguitar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2008 14:31:20.0369 (UTC) FILETIME=[E32B7A10:01C8933B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:31:21 +0000 (UTC) --_91798726-800c-4092-a2a4-1c959029bc6a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable one massivly cheap and fun solution i use is an FM transmitter , i got mine= off ebay from hong kong to the uk for about =A36 ($11ish) you just put it = in the headphone or line out socket of any audio device then use any radio = tuner (I use really cheap pound land ones connected to amps) in all the oth= er rooms, I find this great for partys, I can make a playlist on my laptop = in my bedroom then tune the livingroom/kitchen/bathroom awaterproof radios = into the transmitters frequency and have the same music all over the house,= Ive had some really good feedback about that from guests. Phill MyOneManBandu, 27 Mar 2008 23:15:18 +0100> From: luca@unguitar.com> T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: OT: transmitting music wit= h no wires> > Hello dear guys,> this is sure an OT, but I am sure I can get= some useful informations > from you.> I would like to have the music comin= g out from my living room hi-fi ( I > am an old man) transmitted to another= set of loudspeakers in a different > room.> There is something like that m= ade for headphones and I was wondering if > a thing like this exists for a = regular amp+loudspeaker system.> > thanks for you minutes,> luca> www.ungui= tar.com>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx= --_91798726-800c-4092-a2a4-1c959029bc6a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable one massivly cheap and fun solution i use is an FM transmitter , i got mine= off ebay from hong kong to the uk for about =A36 ($11ish) you just put it = in the headphone or line out socket of any audio device then use any radio = tuner (I use really cheap pound land ones connected to amps) in all the oth= er rooms, I find this great for partys, I can make a playlist on my laptop = in my bedroom then tune the livingroom/kitchen/bathroom awaterproof radios = into the transmitters frequency and have the same music all over the house,= Ive had some really good feedback about that from guests.
    Phill MyOneManBand

    u, 27 Mar 2008 23:15:18 +0100
    > From: luca@= unguitar.com
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subjec= t: OT: transmitting music with no wires
    >
    > Hello dear guys,> this is sure an OT, but I am sure I can get some useful informations=
    > from you.
    > I would like to have the music coming out from = my living room hi-fi ( I
    > am an old man) transmitted to another set= of loudspeakers in a different
    > room.
    > There is something l= ike that made for headphones and I was wondering if
    > a thing like t= his exists for a regular amp+loudspeaker system.
    >
    > thanks fo= r you minutes,
    > luca
    > www.unguitar.com
    >


    =
    A prize an hour, 24 hours a day. Try Big Snap now! = --_91798726-800c-4092-a2a4-1c959029bc6a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 14:46:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87FDD3BE95; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8933E.04AF7AD6" Subject: Mutiple speaker possibilities Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:46:26 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD082307155C64@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <20080331064015.19FDE3BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Mutiple speaker possibilities Thread-Index: AciS+huowuxbWI79ShuAdBl2T9/n5wAQ9avQ References: <20080331064015.19FDE3BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2008 14:46:37.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[05AE65F0:01C8933E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:46:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8933E.04AF7AD6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 Hal Dean =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8933E.04AF7AD6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

     

     

    Hal Dean

     

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8933E.04AF7AD6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 14:49:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BC8F3BEA6; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:49:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:37:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: Fwd: unsubscribe Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1005147549==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:49:09 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1005147549==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe nsubscribeu subscribeun ubscribeuns bscribeunsu etc At 12:22 PM +0100 3/30/08, Andr=E9 Pires wrote: >the song remains the same > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >From: jason casatelli <m80records@gmail.com> >Date: 29 Mar 2008 19:44 >Subject: unsubscribe >To:=20 >Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight= =2Ecom > >unsubscribe -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com --============_-1005147549==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Fwd: unsubscribe



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    David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
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    --============_-1005147549==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 15:10:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3EA23BECA; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C89341.559FF2F2" Subject: Multiple Speaker possibilities Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 11:10:10 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD082307155C84@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <20080331064015.19FDE3BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Multiple Speaker possibilities Thread-Index: AciS+huowuxbWI79ShuAdBl2T9/n5wAQ+kHA References: <20080331064015.19FDE3BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2008 15:10:19.0985 (UTC) FILETIME=[55B08C10:01C89341] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:10:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C89341.559FF2F2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In the process of assembling a "get out the house" rig, I just put my = Layla 24 audio breakout box in a rack and now ponder sending the 8 = analog outputs to separate small speakers. It is clear how to do that if = you have lots of cash, don't mind lugging lots of stuff around, and will = be playing venues with power outlets all over the place. None of that, = however, applies. =20 The sounds would be coming from a laptop running Mobius inside Bidule, = with some softsynth/samplers (Halion, Absynth) as well as one channel of = processed guitar fed into Mobius and both these inputs as well as the = Mobius loops sent to the 8 outs. I have a PC1600x that I can use to = adjust volume and balance on each of the 8 channels. The outputs are all = on =BC" cable. =20 The second channel of processed guitar goes to a guitar amp. =20 The target venue is a small club, say capacity of 100. =20 Does anyone have suggestions regarding small powered speakers for this = setup? I'm hoping to spend less than $50 per speaker.=20 =20 Hal Dean =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C89341.559FF2F2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    In the process of = assembling a “get out the house” rig, I just put my Layla 24 audio breakout box in a = rack and now ponder sending the 8 analog outputs to separate small speakers. = It is clear how to do that if you have lots of cash, don’t mind lugging = lots of stuff around, and will be playing venues with power outlets all over the = place. None of that, however, applies.

     

    The sounds would be = coming from a laptop running Mobius inside Bidule, with some softsynth/samplers = (Halion, Absynth) as well as one channel of processed guitar fed into Mobius and = both these inputs as well as the Mobius loops sent to the 8 outs. I have a PC1600x = that I can use to adjust volume and balance on each of the 8 channels. The outputs = are all on =BC” cable.

     

    The second channel of = processed guitar goes to a guitar amp.

     

    The target venue is a = small club, say capacity of 100.

     

    Does anyone have = suggestions regarding small powered speakers for this setup? I’m hoping to = spend less than $50 per speaker.

     

    Hal Dean

     

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C89341.559FF2F2-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 15:17:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D3943BE92; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3211 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:17:42 UTC X-Authenticated-User: lyle.musicmarketing.ca Reply-To: From: "Lyle Crilly" To: Subject: RE: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:24:18 -0400 Organization: Music Marketing Message-ID: <000001c8933a$e915b7c0$0b01a8c0@crilldog> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C89319.620417C0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AciSxquWzBHyVZ5/R6y1kv2BMCCxNQAc+hrg In-Reply-To: <01ad01c892c6$acf6e260$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <2csu6C.A.Y5D.WCQ8HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:17:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C89319.620417C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use Reaktor in my set-up synced to a old Jamman via midi, in Reaktor I have 3 loopers as well as the Jamman, so technically I could use 4 loops = at once to add layers, and then mute parts for different parts of the song, = but really I only ever use about 2 loops at once. I find doing 3 or more = gets way too confusing. =20 __________________________________________ Lyle Crilly From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? =20 Grab your seats and get ready for the roller coaster joy ride! Yeeee Hahhhh! =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 oh shit here we go with this again.....Yes i'm saying it..DJ's are sound artists but a Musician as such entails playing a musical instrument. = That is the difference. Many DJ's are MUCH more artistic then many musicians. :) = =20 On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, Ricky Graham wrote: FAO: tilmann, =20 Are you saying DJ's aren't musician's? It's somewhat ignorant to make = such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's who are very musical about their = work, and are more musical than many so-called "musicians." If I have taken = what you said out of context, apologies. =20 Ricky From: Tilmann Dehnhard To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:56 PM Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? =20 ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next = breakthrough in music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice... =20 the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise quite = some time ago - they are called DJs... =20 tilmann =20 =20 _____ =20 =20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: = 29/03/2008 17:02 =20 Sean Mormelo sean@seanmormelo.com www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C89319.620417C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I use Reaktor in my set-up synced = to a old Jamman via midi, in Reaktor I have 3 loopers as well as the Jamman, so technically I could use 4 loops at once to add layers, and then mute = parts for different parts of the song, but really I only ever use about 2 loops at = once. I find doing 3 or more gets way too confusing…

     

    ____________________________________= ______

    Lyle Crilly


    From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
    Sent:     Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:32 = PM
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: HOW MANY = LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY?

     

    Grab your seats and get = ready for the roller coaster joy ride!  Yeeee Hahhhh!  =

    ----- Original Message = -----


     

    oh shit here we go with this again.....Yes = i'm saying it..DJ's are sound artists but a Musician as such entails playing a = musical instrument. That is the difference. Many DJ's are MUCH more artistic = then many musicians. :)

     

    On Mar 31, 2008, at 1:01 AM, = Ricky Graham wrote:



    FAO: = tilmann,

     =

    Are you saying DJ's aren't musician's? It's somewhat ignorant to make such a generalisation! I know of many DJ's who are very musical about their = work, and are more musical than many so-called "musicians." If I have = taken what you said out of context, apologies.

     =

    Ricky

    Sent: Sunday, March = 30, 2008 10:56 = PM

    Subject: Re: HOW MANY = LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY?

     =

    ... Its the non musician youngsters that will bring the next breakthrough in = music, and we will be too old and miserable to notice...

     =

    the non musicians already changed the face of our earth musicwise quite some = time ago - they are called DJs...

     =

    tilmann

     

     =

     =

    No virus found in this incoming message.
    Checked by AVG. 
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    Sean Mormelo

    www.seanmorme= lo.com

    www.myspace.c= om/seanmormelo

     =

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    ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C89319.620417C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 15:23:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2562D3BEDE; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tsrzbb8Ad/QX7KHjWOJGO+ajGXtHm24aaO1AD5QJ/gA=; b=swoodAYs2/JLChHOH/WPjIyfbXY0Oe2JhFGbB6E/UOh7Wnq1sbKZkSZqb8t+my8Bct6lm5MDPJdN1UTKay2Qu0m6Cj1kBbnW1VMq7RE2lSPNPwVS81xVnDVQ6X/kFHYS3HH/rNw31U1HxaWm5xaH1Trfhj6+yoFWmy3nsXvMhGc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ofOntz175aVnwy2PKBY4A+Bc0E8ywG688jEXU39mXQJvMwsG8K0axOIjq2C2a1BnJyWIHe7s+IbwRRk26tZdE/oqA2X9jaWgP/eIB1/Fd5xitIv+Py5M7l4ZXf3yWvSgrAiEAr3h8logR7rUkNZqm/lNSnkyjrcMSlxP+Vhgl5g= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803310823h5391d0aar4d3f2a5439f21250@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:23:24 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Multiple Speaker possibilities In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD082307155C84@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080331064015.19FDE3BEAF@arsenic.violacea.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD082307155C84@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:23:26 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Dean, Hal wrote: > > In the process of assembling a "get out the house" rig, I just put my Lay= la > 24 audio breakout box in a rack and now ponder sending the 8 analog outpu= ts > to separate small speakers. It is clear how to do that if you have lots o= f > cash, don't mind lugging lots of stuff around, and will be playing venues > with power outlets all over the place. None of that, however, applies. > > > > The sounds would be coming from a laptop running Mobius inside Bidule, wi= th > some softsynth/samplers (Halion, Absynth) as well as one channel of > processed guitar fed into Mobius and both these inputs as well as the Mob= ius > loops sent to the 8 outs. I have a PC1600x that I can use to adjust volum= e > and balance on each of the 8 channels. The outputs are all on =BC" cable. > > > > The second channel of processed guitar goes to a guitar amp. > > > > The target venue is a small club, say capacity of 100. > > Does anyone have suggestions regarding small powered speakers for this > setup? I'm hoping to spend less than $50 per speaker. > > Hal Dean Have you considered enting optimal speakers fore each show? That may make better sounding shows and save you some money. It just seems unnecessarily expensive top keep eight speakers stuffed away somewhere between shows. --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.stockholm-athens.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 17:07:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A53ED3BEA4; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1819 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:07:12 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.1.156 X-EN-IMPSID: 7scg1Z0093MxAyJ0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:36:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Democratization of the Music Industry Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 76.14.77.15 X-EN-OrigHost: unknown Message-Id: <20080331170712.F2A6F3BE88@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-BDRQ.A.8NH.BpR8HB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:07:13 +0000 (UTC) Another article on the future of the music industry: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-price/the-democratization-of-th_b_93065.html (via slashdot http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/31/0120247&from=rss ) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 17:43:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A37393BEBA; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080331124326.820xt9mpiwwws4o4@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 12:43:26 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? References: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <013401c89188$5c859fe0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Rick Walker : > > > How many loops do us use simultaneously? > Thus far, I have used up to four stereo loops at once. > > And why? > 1) Routing possibilities I can route independent loops to different positions in the surround-field. 2) Echo possibilities I like to play to multiple loops of different lengths with zero =20 feedback (plays back only once). For example, if one loop is four =20 measures long and another is eight measures long, and if one is panned =20 left and the other panned right, then my signal plays from the left =20 four four measures and then from the right for another four measures. =20 Thus, I can construct three voice canons. 3) Reverse layering possibilities I can "unlayer" a loop part by part rather than being forced to =20 unlayer (fade out) everything at once. I use multiple loops to "spread out" the material across the loops. =20 As the number of loops increase, the amount of material on each loop =20 tends to decrease to avoid what I call a "grey" effect. The "grey effect" is inspired from water color painting. If you mix =20 one or two colors you can get interesting effects but when too many =20 colors are mixed it just turns a non-descript grey. When I put =20 together looping works, I struggle to maintain the independence of the =20 parts. To maintain clarity is a constant challenge. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 31 21:19:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D02423BE97; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OId6FJUq+A== Message-ID: From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: HOW MANY LOOPS DO YOU USE SIMLUTANEOUSLY? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:19:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0803301210w2c03c572pc42267777fe9b582@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AciSmbaGr8a0hok9QZuw9nZm23EiZAA2gnJQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.4133 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:19:27 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to ask the original poster (who was that again) how to count loops in that context? Some definitions I've seen explicitly or implicitly in the replies so far for "number of loops" a) the number of separate recordings (e.g. if using a "simple" looper like a DL4 and overdub twenty times onto your first loop, you got 21 loops) - nb: it's kinda tricky to find the exact number of simultaneous loops here if feedback <1. b) the number of individual tracks in one loop that is otherwise operated as one (think Repeater OS 1.x) c) the number of independent loops which cannot sound at the same time (think EDP) d) the number of independent loops which can sound at the same time (think e.g. Mobius or Looperlative) Rainer ps: I usually stretch to the limit of what the looper in use has to offer, though not necessarily all the time. That means e.g. four by definition b) with a Repeater, two by definition d) with a DD20 etc. And I totally agree that stacking a lot of loops (and in that context, it's irrelevant whether by a), b) or d) definition) requires careful thinking about the arrangement. Although, Kevin, I remember that mixing lots of water colors gives you more a brown color than a grey one...