From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 02:25:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4793C3BEB9; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=LtIQdhr3D8HRBihVaj4VVwPpPfeQpE4eCBEeS1V/fWVxP+v4wNd408yHL5Bb4c7GNPFfdOi8XaWn44SGpv1EKeq3munYqiNfE0xah8+fOZbPyWbkZQRcCfeFlllpD3IzxEK54X356lKosK2BpYdrEVBthOXodQ1gN6Jq3btzWLI=; X-YMail-OSG: 5ine1E8VM1mbY3BtTiS6ukjTl1PbsU1XBLEEptEDao6yb4Z9pGM83pGMYr_l8U.4d03E.4ZdyQJiT37O7A35MGn_xFobsBm6Kez3EH4RdecF4cLQo27kdyw_Zg-- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: My very good friend Michael Garfield incredible guitarist and his beautiful cause for the benefit of all :o) To: babycakes61_2000@yahoo.com, barebonesfilmfest@yahoo.com, Barbara Hill , Joe fretless bassist Ferrero , Johny Barbata , Sant Ananchai , ShIronbutterfly Ray , "bbactr4jc@juno.com" , Ben , Bethea Jenner , Jim and Belinda , Kaylie Bernhardt , Rochelle and Bethea , Valerio , Incite Bill and Carrie Mulder , Jennifer Bishop , Michael Bicknell , Bob Weigel , Brett Bower , Mesa Boogie , Ally Sutton , Brian Good , jim butcher , Natalie Business MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <26809.29728.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:25:44 +0000 (UTC) Share Daniel posted a link. 8:57pmMichael Garfield & Zaadz Visionary Music - Home Page http://michaelgarfield.zaadz.c... 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 02:37:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90DFF3BED8; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wfATqpi30kZgWVWGj6jAz9pdAwWgyNI/uF3sBL6RsaTuGG978v0/mMIsJ3WyQ0zmwy0Qk0yOsRkvjEhKvsBN1fE9bhIkSHXM6PBxH3KYa9X6CwC1cZJvO72KN6ajYR5aZDYn0dET1DogJfRwXftCLpxWYfT6ZyYn4HqYDKwe6RU=; X-YMail-OSG: jW6ZXe0VM1m2fE9AP4tDcbjKO6iLIrPVcojriqEM5jI6PSDY0EIzAjAm8_EioMveHUG.TNyXRN4vt.ET2zBu9EdrxoE_iLCZ7FLxZ2tEApjetFOKSIkDfJp82A-- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:37:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: My very good friend Michael Garfield incredible guitarist and his beautiful cause for the benefit of all :o) To: Walker James , Eric Redlhammer , faithdriven1@sbcglobal.net, June Favati , John Fittell , Mark White , Jeffrey Furst , Garrick Hudson , Gary Lehmann , Greg McDowell , Greg Melching , Jennifer Bishop , stan greve , Rick Hansen , Roy Hatcher , Todd Hallawell , Kevin Hiatt , Joel , Nattapong Assalee , "austin@starrfadu.net" , "babycakes61_2000@yahoo.com" , "barebonesfilmfest@yahoo.com" , Ben , Kaylie Bernhardt , Michael Bicknell , Brett Bower , Natalie Business , jim butcher , Jessie Canarte , Michael Chapdelaine , Christine Rage , Phil Clarkin , Darain Conrady , Natalie Cox , Elizabeth Darling , dawnua dawson , "deanal@skilonline.com" , Joe fretless bassist Ferrero , "jfreund@pittstate.edu" , "jlutt69@yahoo.com" , "John Vs.the Jukebox" , "keith@kmarshall.com" , Joe Klinkon , Marci Klotz , Lisa , Starrfadu News , JP Nickel , JP Nickel , JP Nickel , Doug or Marsha Phillips , "raineyamanda@hotmail.com" , ShIronbutterfly Ray , Rhonda , Sant Ananchai , Jeff Scheetz , Nathan Shaver , Lemuel Shepherd , Naoki Shimodate , Neona Smith , Paul Sutoris , "John,Sandy,Sunny Thompson" , Mindy Townsend , "tykorandia@hotmail.com" , Valerio , "willaalbertini52@yahoo.com" , Ziggy , 3DCNCInstruments , Derrick Able , Kevin Arensman , Johnathon Lloyd Artz , Johny Barbata , Jim and Belinda , Mesa Boogie , Jessee Canarte , Kassandra Charboneau , The Clampdown , Kyle Dillingham , Drew musiciansfriendemp , "experienceincite@aol.com" , Brian Good , Rochelle Gordon , Barbara Hill , Bethea Jenner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <399796.39375.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2oFAXC.A.0rG.TvTKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:37:07 +0000 (UTC) Share Daniel posted a link. 8:57pmMichael Garfield & Zaadz Visionary Music - Home Page http://michaelgarfield.zaadz.c... 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 04:20:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D9383BED6; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 04:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4729541B.2020108@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:20:43 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: square waves References: <20071031214742.CEC8B3BED8@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20071031214742.CEC8B3BED8@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 04:20:54 +0000 (UTC) On the old David Torn instructional video, he mentions the oscillator in the machine and demonstrates its effect with some harmonized delays. Forgive my ignorance, but is an LFO present as a controller for any sort of time-based modulation, i.e., the rate control on a simple chorus pedal? Does every harmonizer have an LFO? And do looping machines such as the Repeater which offer some pitch control also have an LFO? Or is the PCM-42 unique in having this effect available in its delays/loops...? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > The PCM-42 delay line has an LFO which is used to modulate the delay > line, it can be used to create flange, chorus or wobbly echos. It has > two waveforms available, triangle and square. If you use an expanded > memory PCM-42 and modulate your loop with the square wave the effect > will be similar to having someone switch the speed of a tape machine, > with dramatic jumps in pitch and speed. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 06:38:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFD833BED2; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4729541B.2020108@mhorse.com> References: <20071031214742.CEC8B3BED8@arsenic.violacea.com> <4729541B.2020108@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:36:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: square waves Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112048c8d43c9a67c80835edf7d2dc3cab842d8a127e48a54451350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, A chorus effect is nothing more than a short delay (5-20ms) in which the delay time is modulated by an LFO. The LFO in a chorus is usually a triangle wave, so that the delay time smoothly changes from the shortest to the longest time. Most 'harmonizer' type effects do not have an LFO, they use a different method to produce a steady pitch shift. The PCM-42 was designed as an early "multi purpose effect" if you will. By setting the delay time very very short (0 to 10ms) and modulating it slowly, you will produce flanging effects. A slightly longer delay (5-20ms) and a slightly faster modulation produces a "Chorus" effect. Most delay effects have some sort of modulation, but the PCM-42 was one of the few which has a square wave available in the LFO ina ddition to the triangle wave. >On the old David Torn instructional video, he mentions the >oscillator in the machine and demonstrates its effect with some >harmonized delays. Forgive my ignorance, but is an LFO present as a >controller for any sort of time-based modulation, i.e., the rate >control on a simple chorus pedal? Does every harmonizer have an LFO? >And do looping machines such as the Repeater which offer some pitch >control also have an LFO? Or is the PCM-42 unique in having this >effect available in its delays/loops...? > >Daryl Shawn >www.swanwelder.com >www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >>The PCM-42 delay line has an LFO which is used to modulate the >>delay line, it can be used to create flange, chorus or wobbly >>echos. It has two waveforms available, triangle and square. If you >>use an expanded memory PCM-42 and modulate your loop with the >>square wave the effect will be similar to having someone switch the >>speed of a tape machine, with dramatic jumps in pitch and speed. -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 07:04:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD2633BED2; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 395 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:04:33 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=JLRhNRTa4ILygjyHsSrO4zqXoKD7qNayrSX4szTpumfrF9O163WeJelE0k6vbZRH; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <01d901c81c5c$d0ea15b0$6401a8c0@ECCO> From: "JC" To: Subject: Looping Festival 2007 and saying hello to everyone Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:51:38 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CE_01C81C18.FA83BEB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 X-ELNK-Trace: 250e53821a8c36f54d2b10475b571120e3eb23a37288a7a2fc81a97a0e77da398a4b8a4ee4b2abb2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.181.225.103 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:04:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01CE_01C81C18.FA83BEB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I just subscribed to this list. I found out about it after performing at = the Looping Festival in Oakland. I would like to say hello to everyone here by sending a web page we made = about that night: http://www.deconstructionist.com/blacknote/loopingfest07.htm A little bit about me: I work a lot with loops, both live and in composition. My aesthetic = ranges from noise to calm drones to straightforward beats to = contemporary composition. You can find out a bit more about me and my work here: http://www.deconstructionist.com/blacknote/jc.htm I work in constant collaboration with others.=20 Some of our interactive graphic and sound experiments can be found here: www.allhaildiscordia.com Feel free to send me any comments, both on and off list.=20 JC Mendizabal Black Note Music http://www.blacknotemusic.com Via Sinistrae www.viasinistrae.com http://sinistrae.libsyn.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_01CE_01C81C18.FA83BEB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
I just subscribed to this list. I found = out about=20 it after performing at the Looping Festival in Oakland.
I would like to say hello to everyone = here by=20 sending a web page we made about that night:
htt= p://www.deconstructionist.com/blacknote/loopingfest07.htm
 
A little bit about me:
I work a lot with loops, both live and = in=20 composition. My aesthetic ranges from noise to calm drones=20 to straightforward beats to contemporary composition.
You can find out a bit more about me = and my work=20 here:
http://www.dec= onstructionist.com/blacknote/jc.htm
I work in constant collaboration with = others.=20
Some of our interactive graphic and = sound=20 experiments can be found here:
www.allhaildiscordia.com
 
Feel free to send me any comments, both = on and off=20 list.
 
JC Mendizabal
Black Note Music
http://www.blacknotemusic.com<= BR>Via=20 Sinistrae
www.viasinistrae.com
http://sinistrae.libsyn.com/
------=_NextPart_000_01CE_01C81C18.FA83BEB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 08:23:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3CBB3BED6; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:23:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 640480351-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.161.153 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAIgpKUdPQqGZ/2dsb2JhbACCKqVn Message-ID: <47298D43.1010506@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 08:24:35 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100(now RMC pickups) References: <804506.64843.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <804506.64843.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 08:23:57 +0000 (UTC) The softer attack of the nylon strings works better with piezos, which tend to emphasize the attack. For a lot of people, the piezo "quack" rules out their use, although I understand that later designs are improved somewhat. (personally, I wouldn't be able to stand piezo on nylon, or at least it would take a lot of getting used to, but that's just me) andy butler L.A. Angulo wrote: > i was always under the impression that hexaphonic > pickups like the rmc would work better on a steel > string for its sustain,but most people that mention it > have it installed in their nylon acoustics,which seem > to be harder to amplify,off course the godins are a > whole different story but i wouldnt really consider > them a classic/flamenco guitar,they definetly got > their own sound going... > Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 10:06:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 977393BECA; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18WfAE+aIAWoKqoiKJwUegAXEXkJ2CUOCRhGef2HC A5jbogOO8anu3E Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <46517b063c53386d23c9d1b700f2af1d@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: nico spahni Subject: free impro featuring kaoss guitar Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:06:51 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks Some of you may be interested in my new Kaoss pad-enhanced Yamaha Silent Guitar: www.recpro.ch/pictures/kaoss_silent_guitar.jpg I first toyed with it last Sunday in an informal impro session with a percussionist: www.recpro.ch/mp3/kaoss_guitar_impro.mp3 The sound quality is somewhat less than good but it'll give you an idea anyway. In the first 2 minutes I make extensive use of the programme "ring modulation". Cheers Nico www.recpro.ch www.myspace.com/nicospahni From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 10:40:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8953A3BECF; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:40:31 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <472869AF.3080108@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:40:10 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Afterglow is now on MySpace at http://myspace.com/afterglowonwmuh where you can become a friend of the show. GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special focus on Paul Ellis from Washington state. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Appears to Vanish" on NeuHarmony Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#nov I will be playing music by Radio Massacre International who are coming over from the UK to play at The Gatherings concert series. 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Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 11:40:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00E713BEDE; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <439C594C-3652-4DF8-AF72-98AC28D3B83A@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Silva Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 07:40:02 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 11:40:14 +0000 (UTC) Kevin! What a lovely composition "The Sad Little Ghost" is! Did you compose all of it? If so I'd b very interested to know some details. For example: What DAW do you use? What soft synths if any are you using? Apparently you are a trained musician? Do you compose the bulk of your music on a Keyboard-Theremin? Who are you and what planet are you from? From Jazz to classical and in between, I'd say it's safe to say that most all modern music is being influenced by technology-looped typed music being at the heart of it. After all art is a reflection of who we are as a culture-where ever one may dwell. As hard as I try to be forward thinking and open to new and progressive music, it's refreshing to hear something inspired in the more conventional manner. Indeed it seems to me it is best to be trained in convention. Then one can take that power and push the envelope. Thank you for sharing that 'oh my god soooooo awesome music'! :-) Peace. http://www.myspace.com/chucksilva Chuck Silva On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:40 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad > Little Ghost". > > http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml > > This is the first non-looping work I've composed for nearly a year > however I think my work with live looping has influenced my non- > looped work in a few ways, namely: > > 1) the orchestral tracks are minimal and utilize repetition -- > similar to looped material > > 2) the lead (theremin) part is economical -- eschewing "fireworks" > and focusing on expressive sustained notes. > > I am grateful to the folks on the LD list for MANY ideas that have > become part of my musical vocabularly. A few recent examples: > > . in my organ improvisations I am much more inclined to play in a > "looped" style... while I am not looping via hardware I often build > a motive and then just keep it going in my left (or right) hand and > then weave melodies around it with my spare hand or feet. (I don't > know if the church I play at is ready for hardware looping... > however I may try it sometime **grins** ) > > . last Sunday, at the end of one improv, I played a single note > melody alone on a plantive stop... this was an idea suggested on > the LD list. And, why not? With loop devices we can turn one-note- > a-time instruments into ensembles. Why not do the opposite and > play a polyphonic instrument as if it is a mono instrument? > > Folks commented that my set at the Y2K7 Loopfest sounded > "orchestral" -- and I think that my interest in ensemble texture > influenced that. I have found over the last year that my looped > and non-looped work influence each other. > > The Y2K7 Loopfest was like a massive recharge to my musical > batteries. It was a chance to just sit back and soak up music from > everyone. I think the word "unique" is overused in the music biz > however each set WAS unique and each was high-quality. > > In particular, one of the challenges with looped music and with > music in general is to create effective endings. To see the > different approaches to this aspect of looping was enlightening, to > say the least. Incidentally, the ending to "The Sad Little Ghost" > just flew into my DAW ... no struggle. > > Forgive my rambling here. Though it has been a week since the > loopfest, I am still on a real "high" from it and look forward to > creating a lot of new looped and non-looped music as a result. > > -- Kevin > From nobody@server.online-ventures.net Thu Nov 1 13:13:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 49961 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:13:19 UTC Received: from server.online-ventures.net (server.online-ventures.net [69.57.154.47]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D823BEB8 for ; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nobody by server.online-ventures.net with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InMrI-0002c1-Dm for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:20:24 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have a security message alert ! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 13:20:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA43C3BED2; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:20:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 691310746 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: AXON AX 100 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:20:49 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205D80EA2@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E73@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AXON AX 100 Thread-Index: AcgcigTVMnJbH6sfSiCe7pscyRXn+g== References: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E73@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2007 13:20:49.0763 (UTC) FILETIME=[0527FB30:01C81C8A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:20:51 +0000 (UTC) >>I have an older Roland GI-10. Everyone that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon is better.<< I have an axon 50, which is being knocked out at a very good price both in the uk & the us at the moment. it has no onboard sounds, & works with the roland gk pickups.=20 I also have an old GI-10, & with guitar the axon is *significantly* more reliable. in fact, I hooked up my old sunn strat to it & found I didn't need to make any adjustments besides putting it into guitar-mode. besides this, it's much easier (with a mac or pc hooked up to it) to get it to operate different zones on the fretboard, & also to do different things depending where you pick. this latter is untested in my setup, but I'm anxious to give it a go & will report when I have. I bought the axon because I've been using a couple of peavey midibases; one of them is actually a decent bass aswell (the serial numbers are three apart, but the difference in tone is marked), but is still no match for a decent fender or rickenbacker, & I hate to leave my good basses at home & gig the peavey when the midi component of what I do is quite minimal. but so far, with the ax50 in proper adjustment, I have had trouble with (bizarrely) the higher notes on the g string; it wraps around to the octave below at around the 10th fret. everywhere else, it tracks pretty good (remember, I have been spoiled by the peavey, which uses split-frets switching). I am using a roland gk2b (a hexaphonic p/u designed for aircraft-carrier bass sixers); the only problem here is that the front panel connector on the ax50 is a little insubstantial. hope this is useful somehow. duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 13:33:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 275613BECD; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=n2ptG7tabgKjgCK4RGVrSyL8NeAT7YYLuC4yjrTutaDCdlChc53ZGfoQS/wLwYuKqGJMDwK0ptO7l6U9WJvfRUnzaIWmvkZfTHXhFXxjjdKoUlsdBRiAnOEwKeCWAkDFYiRgV/H/6Jh09oVfuJKqaXivrDiIBfwH0jXs9wGVNys=; X-YMail-OSG: yHEtbG0VM1k4LSjZwrAUwrJHfrWFik2OPIJ896e1OAj207S109UHt4RVLmp19znGnrmKiLhz3PZTiE8F6EcB7D9fsy4KJdDwIRth1iKY.r2ZPBXdYBU- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071031134222.u6p62bvj0ggkksgs@www.wightman.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <395157.72807.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:33:33 +0000 (UTC) Hey Paul, Just curious,who installed it for you? i tried finding somebody in california who would install the Graphtech or RMC system on my fernandes sustainer but they all seemed to shy away from doing it.Ive also havent found anybody here in germany yet who would do it if anybody has a link id aprreciate it! cheers Luis --- phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: > Hey Richard, > > If you think you are going to let the Axon go I'll > throw my name in > the hat of people that would be interested in it. > I'm currently using > a vg8-ex which doesn't have good synth sounds; I > love some of the > guitar patches though. > > Just for interest sake you can take a look at the > guitar I built with > the Graphtech pickups at > http://www.haslem.ca/pictures/ click on any > of the jpg files marked guitar. > > Sounds like you're going to have a busy year! I'm > starting to work on > a new hammered dulcimer cd that will involve looping > guitar parts and > perhaps some dulcimer as well... Of course it will > feature the > hammered dulcimer.... In my case I'll be delighted > if I'm able to sell > a few hundred copies.... > > Regards, > > Paul Haslem > www.dulcify.ca > > > > Quoting Richard Sales : > > > > I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on > the Roland GK1 pickup > > and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any > of you want it and > > will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. > I never used it. > > And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me > know. Only catch > > is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As > the natives say, > > "The gift must move." > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 13:33:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D43C33BED8; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 688014264 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: square waves/repeater Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:33:51 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205D80EAE@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <4729541B.2020108@mhorse.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: square waves/repeater Thread-Index: Acgci9b2CoTtVlU4TEqXOcccTMUWww== References: <4729541B.2020108@mhorse.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2007 13:33:52.0080 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7741500:01C81C8B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:33:53 +0000 (UTC) >>do looping machines such as the Repeater which offer some pitch control also have an LFO?<< no, but you've given me an idea, for which many thanks. the repeater can be made to respond to midi controllers, & so a sequencer playing back a midi controller with continuously varying value could be used to modulate things in the repeater. I'm going to try CC14, which is (IIRC) the newly available controller on the repeater that makes pitch & tempo change together... a few weeks ago, I was speculating here that this same controller could be used for fine adjustments of the loop playback.=20 we have a real drummer who can't or won't play to a click, but prefers to run the show himself & do all sorts of tempo changes during a piece with a repeater part that needs to be in sync. I figured if I heard him pulling ahead of the loop, or dropping behind it, I could send tiny amounts of CC14 to the repeater to advance or retard it. might have a go at that later too. d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 15:27:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35A093BECA; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:27:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0b0701c81c9b$c5e7a3a0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Y2K7 Recordings - Truth Revealed Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 09:27:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0B04_01C81C69.7A25A390" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 15:27:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0B04_01C81C69.7A25A390 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the real reason why I wanted to record Y2K7 with live mics = versus the high maintenance of direct from board recording. http://www.y2kloopfest.com/images/event/kris-sleeping-on-the-job.jpg =20 :) Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0B04_01C81C69.7A25A390 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Mrs Pamela Hanson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 16:19:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 029D03BEB6; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 623487014-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.153.222 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HANqYKUdPSpne/2dsb2JhbACCKqVq Message-ID: <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 16:20:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: square waves (as VST) References: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> In-Reply-To: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Interesting, Henry Kaiser was using that effect in 1984 on his Solo Guitar album (now playing). Makes a lot more sense hearing it to know how he was doing that. So How much interest would there be for a vst plug-in that did that effect? ie, delay with square wave modulation. andy butler Qua Veda wrote: > At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square waves > to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his loops. I > really liked his performance. Did I misunderstand him? Can anyone > explain how this is done? > > > > -Qua > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 17:08:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A36403BECC; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:08:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5MLLsD9pA4jrOM4IToEVAClU1d7JXYsc7wYjEAwYC34=; b=HXvH7oJ4JA/CKM4k1NDAykFtPlfL3igwjtxDjE9hntcvaSQcYlFqOmmKuC1m9LIk3fPb3EOiRsN7s4cIvz+p8RoTIGygGE4O1Vj7Xj16TtuJFvfRPkATc77OVD9yXTXH2MzY0AA2IJzJbbaLHlmlxpBEnxwrLU/QcyQKuUpPZVk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=crYPL0n21EpWUeALipPZUBnHb+KDfcoPqlzOADBRaU1XHvw1k3cg2WJ/SJJWDHsT/tukcZRjUFVjaXTGFIdJDBmD8bVVSO+58Q8UUfvqk1A3YSTXTpMB5HrVX7jFyvpZMYQQLvl6qQRW/99c/NWKZhB+uhOGi4j2BdmHu82VEgo= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:07:59 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings In-Reply-To: <439C594C-3652-4DF8-AF72-98AC28D3B83A@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10592_20013253.1193936879981" References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> <439C594C-3652-4DF8-AF72-98AC28D3B83A@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0cyerC.A.u-B.yfgKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:08:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10592_20013253.1193936879981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Lovely as others stated. Hi Kevin, How about aesthetics? I know some contemporary composers refused the use of the theremin as a "tempered" instrument, triying to emulate, regular stringed instruments or so... Which are your opinions about? Never listened a theremin player live, but it seems to me that it's much more difficult o play "in tune" with a beast like that, than just making "glissandi" sounds... I supose it's just the melody on top what you played with it.. isn't? Interesting instrument & great player so far! Thx, R. 2007/11/1, Chuck Silva : > > Kevin! > > What a lovely composition "The Sad Little Ghost" is! > > Did you compose all of it? > > If so I'd b very interested to know some details. > > For example: > > What DAW do you use? > > What soft synths if any are you using? > > Apparently you are a trained musician? > > Do you compose the bulk of your music on a Keyboard-Theremin? > > Who are you and what planet are you from? > > From Jazz to classical and in between, I'd say it's safe to say that > most all modern music is being influenced by technology-looped typed > music being at the heart of it. > > After all art is a reflection of who we are as a culture-where ever > one may dwell. > > As hard as I try to be forward thinking and open to new and > progressive music, it's refreshing to hear something inspired in the > more conventional manner. > > Indeed it seems to me it is best to be trained in convention. Then > one can take that power and push the envelope. > > Thank you for sharing that 'oh my god soooooo awesome music'! :-) > > Peace. > > http://www.myspace.com/chucksilva > > Chuck Silva > > > > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:40 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad > > Little Ghost". > > > > http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml > > > > This is the first non-looping work I've composed for nearly a year > > however I think my work with live looping has influenced my non- > > looped work in a few ways, namely: > > > > 1) the orchestral tracks are minimal and utilize repetition -- > > similar to looped material > > > > 2) the lead (theremin) part is economical -- eschewing "fireworks" > > and focusing on expressive sustained notes. > > > > I am grateful to the folks on the LD list for MANY ideas that have > > become part of my musical vocabularly. A few recent examples: > > > > . in my organ improvisations I am much more inclined to play in a > > "looped" style... while I am not looping via hardware I often build > > a motive and then just keep it going in my left (or right) hand and > > then weave melodies around it with my spare hand or feet. (I don't > > know if the church I play at is ready for hardware looping... > > however I may try it sometime **grins** ) > > > > . last Sunday, at the end of one improv, I played a single note > > melody alone on a plantive stop... this was an idea suggested on > > the LD list. And, why not? With loop devices we can turn one-note- > > a-time instruments into ensembles. Why not do the opposite and > > play a polyphonic instrument as if it is a mono instrument? > > > > Folks commented that my set at the Y2K7 Loopfest sounded > > "orchestral" -- and I think that my interest in ensemble texture > > influenced that. I have found over the last year that my looped > > and non-looped work influence each other. > > > > The Y2K7 Loopfest was like a massive recharge to my musical > > batteries. It was a chance to just sit back and soak up music from > > everyone. I think the word "unique" is overused in the music biz > > however each set WAS unique and each was high-quality. > > > > In particular, one of the challenges with looped music and with > > music in general is to create effective endings. To see the > > different approaches to this aspect of looping was enlightening, to > > say the least. Incidentally, the ending to "The Sad Little Ghost" > > just flew into my DAW ... no struggle. > > > > Forgive my rambling here. Though it has been a week since the > > loopfest, I am still on a real "high" from it and look forward to > > creating a lot of new looped and non-looped music as a result. > > > > -- Kevin > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10592_20013253.1193936879981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Lovely as others stated.

Hi Kevin,

How about aesthetics?
I know some contemporary composers refused
the use of the theremin as a "tempered" instrument,
triying to emulate, regular stringed instruments or so...
Which are your opinions about?

Never listened a theremin player live,
but it seems to me that it's much more difficult o play
"in tune" with a beast like that, than just making "glissandi" sounds...

I supose it's just the melody on top what you played with it.. isn't?

Interesting instrument & great player so far!

Thx,
R.

2007/11/1, Chuck Silva < any1particular@mac.com>:
Kevin!

What a lovely composition "The Sad Little Ghost" is!

Did you compose all of it?

  If so I'd b very interested to know some details.

For example:

What DAW do you use?

What soft synths if any are you using?

Apparently you are a trained musician?

Do you compose the bulk of your music on a Keyboard-Theremin?

Who are you and what planet are you from?

From Jazz to classical and in between, I'd say it's safe to say that
most all modern music is being influenced by technology-looped typed
music being at the heart of it.

After all art is a reflection of who we are as a culture-where ever
one may dwell.

As hard as I try to be forward thinking and open to new and
progressive music, it's refreshing to hear something inspired in the
more conventional manner.

Indeed it seems to me it is best to be trained in convention. Then
one can take that power and push the envelope.

Thank you for sharing that 'oh my god soooooo awesome music'! :-)

Peace.

  http://www.myspace.com/chucksilva

Chuck Silva




On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:40 PM, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad
> Little Ghost".
>
> http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml
>
> This is the first non-looping work I've composed for nearly a year
> however I think my work with live looping has influenced my non-
> looped work in a few ways, namely:
>
> 1) the orchestral tracks are minimal and utilize repetition --
> similar to looped material
>
> 2) the lead (theremin) part is economical -- eschewing "fireworks"
> and focusing on expressive sustained notes.
>
> I am grateful to the folks on the LD list for MANY ideas that have
> become part of my musical vocabularly.  A few recent examples:
>
> . in my organ improvisations I am much more inclined to play in a
> "looped" style... while I am not looping via hardware I often build
> a motive and then just keep it going in my left (or right) hand and
> then weave melodies around it with my spare hand or feet.  (I don't
> know if the church I play at is ready for hardware looping...
> however I may try it sometime  **grins** )
>
> . last Sunday, at the end of one improv, I played a single note
> melody alone on a plantive stop... this was an idea suggested on
> the LD list.  And, why not?  With loop devices we can turn one-note-
> a-time instruments into ensembles.  Why not do the opposite and
> play a polyphonic instrument as if it is a mono instrument?
>
> Folks commented that my set at the Y2K7 Loopfest sounded
> "orchestral" -- and I think that my interest in ensemble texture
> influenced that.  I have found over the last year that my looped
> and non-looped work influence each other.
>
> The Y2K7 Loopfest was like a massive recharge to my musical
> batteries.  It was a chance to just sit back and soak up music from
> everyone.  I think the word "unique" is overused in the music biz
> however each set WAS unique and each was high-quality.
>
> In particular, one of the challenges with looped music and with
> music in general is to create effective endings.  To see the
> different approaches to this aspect of looping was enlightening, to
> say the least.   Incidentally, the ending to "The Sad Little Ghost"
> just flew into my DAW ... no struggle.
>
> Forgive my rambling here.  Though it has been a week since the
> loopfest, I am still on a real "high" from it and look forward to
> creating a lot of new looped and non-looped music as a result.
>
> -- Kevin
>




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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10592_20013253.1193936879981-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 17:10:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92DE93BED5; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Q0YuYQTzM5t8Xwo9I3x2EyKYTdTOeR2LqKMpNA65TKI=; b=BdMvFfvGP3YakjwXkMkqt2bR0EY1W291rjkFFkEv01/CkcWPGzYrnHJfR0s7iupuazecApcvViRLK3c8EyGhStqymIfyUvyPmPtSQamf977plqABMjMcz2Adt1RQtQdk5o7i971h+MPJkcsjec/vcw0XtJv+ijNxL5MMqW2QoyI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TqfumFV3Ct9XJuwOk7yuQjEoDmLAE5btmeoU7erZDPqcTOwHHUzUomT0Ii8p/odZhryUxYb0Rov8NkWd9J7HYI1XnaluVViShaiERECeh7xpETWPnI1EjE75w2tKe2Qw8s4tkLjnYjocgKle+wvDWXX5HzyRM5FLclu32AR4Svo= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:10:17 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Recordings - Truth Revealed In-Reply-To: <0b0701c81c9b$c5e7a3a0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10600_20828519.1193937017564" References: <0b0701c81c9b$c5e7a3a0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <4yveQ.A.9JC.6hgKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:10:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10600_20828519.1193937017564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ha,ha,ha... hard worker here ;-). cheers, raul. 2007/11/1, Krispen Hartung : > > Here is the real reason why I wanted to record Y2K7 with live mics versus > the high maintenance of direct from board recording. > > http://www.y2kloopfest.com/images/event/kris-sleeping-on-the-job.jpg > > :) > > Kris > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10600_20828519.1193937017564 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ha,ha,ha... hard worker here ;-).

cheers,
raul.

2007/11/1, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:
Here is the real reason why I wanted to record Y2K7 with live mics versus the high maintenance of direct from board recording.
 
 
:)
 
Kris
 



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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10600_20828519.1193937017564-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 17:47:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CEB93BECD; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: AXON AX 100 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 13:47:37 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E83@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <395157.72807.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AXON AX 100 Thread-Index: Acgcr0cvKHsD+dmWTjKQq/0kgP5oCg== References: <395157.72807.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2007 17:47:37.0582 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A8F50E0:01C81CAF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:47:40 +0000 (UTC) The Graphtech site has a list of installers. You might want to email them too - they are very responsive. I'm currently exchanging emails with the guitar tech at the local Sam Ash store in King of Prussia, PA, about Graphtech in my PRS. I called Sam Ash because they are listed as a dealer (not installer) on G'tech site. Hal -----Original Message----- From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 9:34 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 Hey Paul, Just curious,who installed it for you? i tried finding somebody in california who would install the Graphtech or RMC system on my fernandes sustainer but they all seemed to shy away from doing it.Ive also havent found anybody here in germany yet who would do it if anybody has a link id aprreciate it! cheers Luis --- phaslem@wightman.ca wrote: > Hey Richard, >=20 > If you think you are going to let the Axon go I'll throw my name in=20 > the hat of people that would be interested in it. > I'm currently using > a vg8-ex which doesn't have good synth sounds; I love some of the=20 > guitar patches though. >=20 > Just for interest sake you can take a look at the guitar I built with=20 > the Graphtech pickups at http://www.haslem.ca/pictures/ click on any=20 > of the jpg files marked guitar. >=20 > Sounds like you're going to have a busy year! I'm starting to work on=20 > a new hammered dulcimer cd that will involve looping guitar parts and=20 > perhaps some dulcimer as well... Of course it will feature the=20 > hammered dulcimer.... In my case I'll be delighted if I'm able to sell > a few hundred copies.... >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Paul Haslem > www.dulcify.ca >=20 >=20 >=20 > Quoting Richard Sales : > > > > I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on > the Roland GK1 pickup > > and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any > of you want it and > > will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you.=20 > I never used it. > > And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me > know. Only catch > > is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As > the natives say, > > "The gift must move." >=20 >=20 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 17:57:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E18CD3BED5; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1679 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 17:57:39 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zAw2nOUetElf8AUYsHFg3b+o0tNsFPI65LBFLKLFELA=; b=sAxHO7gFgIgoI8/OwOd8ZgMdyOkhiqB5dVosKxCe6J5G/Ra1SbGOo4sudarrh0huHgPT9VvQ7ofH51zuzhLpqhTXb1cbc5/PKLge/qG+UD8rO8E0dwj+bSK08oE7D3hl5XQ8bbtnNQ/r4CofQuAa7GF6ATkZgsx1IzJBCbm5ZvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CqrlIH1094w7YjXKHzy9voVFJNWpirrxu40nzf2cQIDu9BG1T8Hyh1jvJHrobeKG0zdEJYZEHjg+r+GbRPQeYp5xKIy6AOQd1kCGQ+perpjQEAreuBu7C41PVqH42+kFt8XvaZLZUgskeO7VU5yWCDrHDl9RUCKQEmzHzuNikm4= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:01:42 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: free impro featuring kaoss guitar In-Reply-To: <46517b063c53386d23c9d1b700f2af1d@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10558_14572797.1193936502794" References: <46517b063c53386d23c9d1b700f2af1d@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 17:57:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10558_14572797.1193936502794 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline really nice nico... it fits ok into the silent's body... did you do all modulations with a single patch in the mini? there is a youtube video of an spanish tapping guitarist, called carlos vamos with an alesis airfx inside the body of a regular electric guitar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOJTMsKR7ag thx, raul. 2007/11/1, nico spahni : > > Hi folks > > Some of you may be interested in my new Kaoss pad-enhanced Yamaha > Silent Guitar: > > www.recpro.ch/pictures/kaoss_silent_guitar.jpg > > I first toyed with it last Sunday in an informal impro session with a > percussionist: > > www.recpro.ch/mp3/kaoss_guitar_impro.mp3 > > The sound quality is somewhat less than good but it'll give you an idea > anyway. In the first 2 minutes I make extensive use of the programme > "ring modulation". > > Cheers > > Nico > > www.recpro.ch > www.myspace.com/nicospahni > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10558_14572797.1193936502794 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline really nice nico...
it fits ok into the silent's body...
did you do all modulations with a single patch
in the mini?

there is a youtube video of an spanish tapping guitarist,
called carlos vamos with an alesis airfx inside the body
of a regular electric guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOJTMsKR7ag

thx,
raul.

2007/11/1, nico spahni < nicosp@gmx.net>:
Hi folks

Some of you may be interested in my new Kaoss pad-enhanced Yamaha
Silent Guitar:

www.recpro.ch/pictures/kaoss_silent_guitar.jpg

I first toyed with it last Sunday in an informal impro session with a
percussionist:

www.recpro.ch/mp3/kaoss_guitar_impro.mp3

The sound quality is somewhat less than good but it'll give you an idea
anyway. In the first 2 minutes I make extensive use of the programme
"ring modulation".

Cheers

Nico

www.recpro.ch
www.myspace.com/nicospahni




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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10558_14572797.1193936502794-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 18:05:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E3DF3BEDE; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:05:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1787 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:04:59 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> References: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4F84BF45-BBD7-4810-BD43-B8DF6B03F7F1@sonic.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Landman Subject: Re: square waves (as VST) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:35:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:05:00 +0000 (UTC) One critical difference between using the old Lexicon boxes square wave mod vs. a VST or any newer fx box is the way the delay is done. The Lexi's modulated an oscillator that clocked the delay, nowadays delay lines just aren't done that way. If you look back thru the archives Kim talked about this a lot when we were asking for pitch/ time changing effects on the Echoplex. Years ago I had a Lexicon Prime Time II with expanded memory, and square wave modulating a long loop was one of my favorite techniques. Adding some short resonant feedback throbs via the 2nd tap (the Prime Time II was a 2 tap delay line with great onboard mixing capabilities!) and it was loop heaven. Since then I've tried to emulate that sound with many fx boxes including Eventide and Kyma, and it's never sounded the same. Having said all this, if this sound could be caught in a plug-in it'd be great. Mark > > Qua Veda wrote: >> At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square >> waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his >> loops. I really liked his performance. Did I misunderstand him? >> Can anyone explain how this is done? -Qua > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 18:30:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC5BE3BED2; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071101142958.js0fbex1ds0ccgcc@www.wightman.ca> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:29:58 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Graphtech installation was AXON AX 100 References: <395157.72807.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E83@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E83@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:30:01 +0000 (UTC) I looked at both systems, the RMC system is more geared to an acoustic =20 type of installation, where as the Graphtech is more like the familiar =20 saddles that you use on any electric guitar. The RMC is a much more =20 complicated installation and I would only recommend a compentent =20 technician do that installation. The Graphtech system is very modular with a minimal amount of =20 soldering. You do have to comfortable enough with wood working to =20 route out spaces in the back of the guitar and drill holes for the =20 wires from the saddles and controls, but all that is pretty basic =20 stuff and reachable by anyone comfortable with cutting holes in their =20 instrument. The system is very like putting together a computer as =20 every control and even the saddles just plug directly into the circut =20 board. I did mine on one Sunday afternoon (that was the Parker p44 =20 installation). If you're interested I could take some pictures of the =20 insides of my guitars that I've installed the system in so that you =20 can see what it looks like. best of luck with it, Paul haslem www.dulcify.ca > > Hey Paul, > Just curious,who installed it for you? i tried finding somebody in > california who would install the Graphtech or RMC system on my fernandes > sustainer but they all seemed to shy away from doing it.Ive also havent > found anybody here in germany yet who would do it if anybody has a link > id aprreciate it! > cheers > Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 18:47:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 259973BEDB; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:47:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+3OH4ZctK3nI/nOOOhP+nArcFLWQqo46iL5XGlcv vdUd/5VU8q2tLi Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <46517b063c53386d23c9d1b700f2af1d@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-887313419 Message-Id: <053065285c3e7c0b29992026da245d28@gmx.net> From: nico spahni Subject: Re: free impro featuring kaoss guitar Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:47:58 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:47:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-887313419 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Yep, I only used one patch (ring modulation). I had briefly considered getting an airfx instead of the mini-kp and also watched the video you mention. Good stuff but everything considered the airfx seems to be less versatile than the mini-kp. Nico Am 01.11.2007 um 18:01 schrieb Raul Bonell: > really nice nico... > it fits ok into the silent's body... > did you do all modulations with a single patch > in the mini? > > there is a youtube video of an spanish tapping guitarist, > called carlos vamos with an alesis airfx inside the body > of a regular electric guitar. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOJTMsKR7ag > > thx, > raul. > > 2007/11/1, nico spahni < nicosp@gmx.net>:Hi folks >> >> Some of you may be interested in my new Kaoss pad-enhanced Yamaha >> Silent Guitar: >> >> www.recpro.ch/pictures/kaoss_silent_guitar.jpg >> >> I first toyed with it last Sunday in an informal impro session with a >> percussionist: >> >> www.recpro.ch/mp3/kaoss_guitar_impro.mp3 >> >> The sound quality is somewhat less than good but it'll give you an >> idea >> anyway. In the first 2 minutes I make extensive use of the programme >> "ring modulation". >> >> Cheers >> >> Nico >> >> www.recpro.ch >> www.myspace.com/nicospahni >> > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra --Apple-Mail-1-887313419 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Yep, I only used one patch (ring modulation). I had briefly considered getting an airfx instead of the mini-kp and also watched the video you mention. Good stuff but everything considered the airfx seems to be less versatile than the mini-kp. Nico Am 01.11.2007 um 18:01 schrieb Raul Bonell: really nice nico... it fits ok into the silent's body... did you do all modulations with a single patch in the mini? there is a youtube video of an spanish tapping guitarist, called carlos vamos with an alesis airfx inside the body of a regular electric guitar. 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOJTMsKR7ag thx, raul. 2007/11/1, nico spahni << 0000,0000,EEEEnicosp@gmx.net>:Hi folks Some of you may be interested in my new Kaoss pad-enhanced Yamaha Silent Guitar: 0000,0000,EEEEwww.recpro.ch/pictures/kaoss_silent_guitar.jpg I first toyed with it last Sunday in an informal impro session with a percussionist: 0000,0000,EEEEwww.recpro.ch/mp3/kaoss_guitar_impro.mp3 The sound quality is somewhat less than good but it'll give you an idea anyway. In the first 2 minutes I make extensive use of the programme "ring modulation". Cheers Nico 0000,0000,EEEEwww.recpro.ch 0000,0000,EEEEwww.myspace.com/nicospahni -- The Playing Orchestra: 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: 0000,0000,EEEEhttp://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra --Apple-Mail-1-887313419-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 19:41:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 786093BEB8; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RECORDING?! Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:40:58 +0100 Message-ID: <200711011940.lA1JextV012417@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: RECORDING?! Thread-Index: AcgcvyCAQCu2+wjSTn6ike9nJosPQg== From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Nov 2007 19:40:59.0748 (UTC) FILETIME=[20F77A40:01C81CBF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 19:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey all! I really love my Gigadelay! I've been listening to the random Eno-ish loops I made with my shakuhachi (for the last 1/2 hour)! I just need to get it recorded! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 20:37:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B5D63BECA; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=SMfc2kXuqeAmLTdbwKyECLyQqcGgEfwdEOXcuFIpKDY=; b=CCuvAn2vcO/SALZmZX8iT90D1zvSLTDLKkinWnoZZGldjpaMhEOpNnVhnhMaaoiHtUI3CwaRWSBxvScQ4sq3fFrUpAp6BHzI6h69NU/pzx5Roz38MdyOcLx/7f9380j190qIXZdL7lXZDlNoXPGn3zbe81Ig0sJgnk8jGkxW6QE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=U5g/tbD1d1nUlAKS3y6cryUYSCiw0Azr73LODxiw80jqP5li/lXYXmHyynZkQpXenyZZ1+IKEz+7i+/Pm8JsQRjiOtJxLqm/3ZJcSBhIVW/i4wfS5qdNMm5cpFz+oVbXwYh1/E3rfl3bp92536OTJV6PbpR/COVAMOC4XpLHx7A= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205D80EAE@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> References: <4729541B.2020108@mhorse.com> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205D80EAE@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: square waves/repeater Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:17:09 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3pR9tD.A.7q._jjKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:37:19 +0000 (UTC) On Nov 1, 2007, at 5:20, Daryl Shawn wrote: >>> do looping machines such as the Repeater which offer some pitch > control also have an LFO?<< On Nov 1, 2007, at 14:33, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > no, but you've given me an idea, for which many thanks. the > repeater can > be made to respond to midi controllers, & so a sequencer playing > back a > midi controller with continuously varying value could be used to > modulate things in the repeater. I'm going to try CC14, which is > (IIRC) > the newly available controller on the repeater that makes pitch & > tempo > change together... Many years ago, when I had a Repeater, David Torn hinted me at the trick of running a MIDI sequencer synced to the Repeater and sending in MIDI to do "square wave pitch modulation" of loops. First I tried CC14 but the Repeater was too slow to react in a musical way. Then I tried MIDI notes and that was working like a charm! Simply select one of the track select buttons on the Repeaters front panel and send MIDI notes into the machine; it will then hook up that track to do pitch follow according to the received MIDI notes (just as the Augustus Looper AU on Mac does). Bill Walker also used to play with this Repeater technique before he was bitten by the Looperlative. I pretty much do this old Repeater trick these days on my looping laptopo by scripting in Mobius. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 20:51:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C471D3BEB9; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 640798129-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.74.153.222 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAIzZKUdPSpne/2dsb2JhbACCKqYJ Message-ID: <472A3C81.1010004@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:52:17 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: square waves (as VST) References: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> <4F84BF45-BBD7-4810-BD43-B8DF6B03F7F1@sonic.net> In-Reply-To: <4F84BF45-BBD7-4810-BD43-B8DF6B03F7F1@sonic.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:51:38 +0000 (UTC) hi Mark, ;-) hint, the reason I'm asking the question is that I already worked out how to get a vst delay to act as if it had a modulated oscillator. ...would you actually want to purchase a vst plug with those capabilities? andy butler Mark Landman wrote: > One critical difference between using the old Lexicon boxes square wave > mod vs. a VST or any newer fx box is the way the delay is done. > > The Lexi's modulated an oscillator that clocked the delay, nowadays > delay lines just aren't done that way. If you look back thru the > archives Kim talked about this a lot when we were asking for pitch/time > changing effects on the Echoplex. > > Years ago I had a Lexicon Prime Time II with expanded memory, and square > wave modulating a long loop was one of my favorite techniques. Adding > some short resonant feedback throbs via the 2nd tap (the Prime Time II > was a 2 tap delay line with great onboard mixing capabilities!) and it > was loop heaven. Since then I've tried to emulate that sound with many > fx boxes including Eventide and Kyma, and it's never sounded the same. > > Having said all this, if this sound could be caught in a plug-in it'd be > great. > > Mark > >> >> Qua Veda wrote: >>> At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square >>> waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his >>> loops. I really liked his performance. Did I misunderstand him? >>> Can anyone explain how this is done? -Qua >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 21:08:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B86C63BECA; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:08:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <643126.53610.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <643126.53610.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-895719315 Message-Id: <69ed0dc030f2f2d7e5a6ecfedbe3df54@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 shipping etc Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:08:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <6bwdPC.A.u2B.2AkKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:08:06 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-895719315 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi Dan So should I communicate with HIM or you about this? I'll figure out shipping costs and send you the bill. I hope to do this within the next bunch of days but it takes a while to do anything here on an island 2 hours out to sea by boat. Maybe email me at my regular address and not through loopers because I have loopers mail going into a folder which things get lost in very fast. richard@glasswing.com ta dah! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On 31-Oct-07, at 11:49 AM, Dan wrote: > Ok I talked to Cotton and he needs it! Im not sure how you would like > for me to send shipping > money and whatever you need, if there are any other rules I need to > follow for shipping or credit > card information? his email is jwesthoff@sbcglobal.net In case you > need anything else from him he > can build anything and I mean ANYTHING! > He is a very good lifetime friend I respect and love very much!!!!! > Thank You So Much Brother!!! :o) > My address is > > 205 West 9th > Pittsburg, Kansas > zip 66762 > phone 1-620-232-1252 > > > --- Richard Sales wrote: > >> Thanks Dan! >> >> Oh man! So much to learn and research. >> >> Luthiers are like beer stores for me. I have to keep my distance! I >> LOVE GUITARS TOO MUCH! I finally sold one this past year and am still >> having convulsions having done it. But at one point I noticed spider >> webs between the guitar and the wall it was hanging on so I just had >> to >> let it go. >> >> But yeah..... I will RELUCTANTLY go peek at William Eaton, >> Roberto-Venn's and YOUR sites or info. I have to admit I have terror. >> I fall in love so easily. >> >> We don't have any PSAs right now. And she's not signed in the US as >> of >> right now but it's VERY MUCH looking like that will happen within the >> next bunch of months. She's now signed to Universal in the UK so >> we'll >> be going there in the first quarter 08. That's pretty exciting. I >> think France and Germany too. But the way the majors - or what's left >> of them - work - is your record is ONLY released per territory and can >> really only be promoted and tour supported per territory. So we've >> been pretty confined to Canada since the record came out. But it's >> doing very well here. The first single is lodged in the top ten of >> the >> AC chart. Was at #3 for about five months and has now slipped to #8. >> It's the most played record on AC this year! And the new single is >> fast climbing as we speak. And they're planning to launch the third >> in >> Feb so it's very conceivable Hayley will have THREE singles in the top >> playlists, So, IN CANADA, we're doing very well. Hopefully that will >> translate to other territories as well.... Jah willing. >> >> Oh shit! I ALWAYS need equipment. But that's like a very overweight >> man saying he ALWAYS needs candy bars! I'm gonna have to upgrade my >> studio sometime soon and that will be ugly. But the record's been >> nominated for a Juno in Engineering (Canada's Grammy) so I COULD have >> more studio work out of that. Don't know if I really WANT that.... >> but >> I'm sure my wife would like to see more of those little green (and in >> Canada red, blue etc) magic carpets flowing through the bank account. >> >> Our web sites are in my signature below. But.... www.hayleysales.com >> (she has a myspace too - you can hear some songs there), >> www.richardsales.com (samples of my songs there) and www.glasswing.com >> (samples of instrumentals for film video there) the studio. >> >> I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup >> and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any of you want it and >> will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. I never used it. >> And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me know. Only catch >> is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As the natives say, >> "The gift must move." >> >> Thanks again Dan and everyone who responded to my question. >> >> richard sales >> glassWing farm and studio >> vancouver island, b.c. >> 800.545.6846 >> 250.752.4816 >> www.glassWing.com >> www.richardsales.com >> www.hayleysales.com >> www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com >> On 31-Oct-07, at 6:41 AM, Dan wrote: >> >>> Richard!!! Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having >>> fun, >>> I wish I could say the >>> same. Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is >>> requested by companies >>> especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic >>> equipment. I do not know >>> for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact >>> him through Roberto-Venn. >>> He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or >>> viceversa. One of the most amazing >>> and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met. Very personable >>> and sweet at the same time he >>> helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging >>> times of my life back in 1999 >>> through 2000!!! Do you and Haley have any different websites I can >>> link up for yall at >>> myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks? Im trying to get a couple more >>> projects off the ground I have a >>> few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the >>> four state Area and in >>> Pittsburg soon. I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in >>> the works "Eagle Dawn" set >>> drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and >>> percussionist extraordinaire >>> Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio. Send me your >>> PSA's & I will try to get >>> them some air time for you all and Haley! I also have been coming >>> across a lot of random >>> equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so >>> let me know if their is >>> anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of >>> electronic and wood rubble? ha ha >>> lol!!! Its all good :o) >>> Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace, >>> prosperity, wisdom, love and joy >>> Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini >>> myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks >>> >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> Do You Yahoo!? >>> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >>> http://mail.yahoo.com >>> >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --Apple-Mail-3-895719315 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Hi Dan So should I communicate with HIM or you about this? I'll figure out shipping costs and send you the bill. I hope to do this within the next bunch of days but it takes a while to do anything here on an island 2 hours out to sea by boat. Maybe email me at my regular address and not through loopers because I have loopers mail going into a folder which things get lost in very fast. richard@glasswing.com ta dah! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com On 31-Oct-07, at 11:49 AM, Dan wrote: Ok I talked to Cotton and he needs it! Im not sure how you would like for me to send shipping money and whatever you need, if there are any other rules I need to follow for shipping or credit card information? his email is jwesthoff@sbcglobal.net In case you need anything else from him he can build anything and I mean ANYTHING! He is a very good lifetime friend I respect and love very much!!!!! Thank You So Much Brother!!! :o) My address is 205 West 9th Pittsburg, Kansas zip 66762 phone 1-620-232-1252 --- Richard Sales < wrote: Thanks Dan! Oh man! So much to learn and research. Luthiers are like beer stores for me. I have to keep my distance! I LOVE GUITARS TOO MUCH! I finally sold one this past year and am still having convulsions having done it. But at one point I noticed spider webs between the guitar and the wall it was hanging on so I just had to let it go. But yeah..... I will RELUCTANTLY go peek at William Eaton, Roberto-Venn's and YOUR sites or info. I have to admit I have terror. I fall in love so easily. We don't have any PSAs right now. And she's not signed in the US as of right now but it's VERY MUCH looking like that will happen within the next bunch of months. She's now signed to Universal in the UK so we'll be going there in the first quarter 08. That's pretty exciting. I think France and Germany too. But the way the majors - or what's left of them - work - is your record is ONLY released per territory and can really only be promoted and tour supported per territory. So we've been pretty confined to Canada since the record came out. But it's doing very well here. The first single is lodged in the top ten of the AC chart. Was at #3 for about five months and has now slipped to #8. It's the most played record on AC this year! And the new single is fast climbing as we speak. And they're planning to launch the third in Feb so it's very conceivable Hayley will have THREE singles in the top playlists, So, IN CANADA, we're doing very well. Hopefully that will translate to other territories as well.... Jah willing. Oh shit! I ALWAYS need equipment. But that's like a very overweight man saying he ALWAYS needs candy bars! I'm gonna have to upgrade my studio sometime soon and that will be ugly. But the record's been nominated for a Juno in Engineering (Canada's Grammy) so I COULD have more studio work out of that. Don't know if I really WANT that.... but I'm sure my wife would like to see more of those little green (and in Canada red, blue etc) magic carpets flowing through the bank account. Our web sites are in my signature below. But.... www.hayleysales.com (she has a myspace too - you can hear some songs there), www.richardsales.com (samples of my songs there) and www.glasswing.com (samples of instrumentals for film video there) the studio. I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any of you want it and will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. I never used it. And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me know. Only catch is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As the natives say, "The gift must move." Thanks again Dan and everyone who responded to my question. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 6:41 AM, Dan wrote: Richard!!! Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having fun, I wish I could say the same. Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is requested by companies especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic equipment. I do not know for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact him through Roberto-Venn. He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or viceversa. One of the most amazing and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met. Very personable and sweet at the same time he helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging times of my life back in 1999 through 2000!!! Do you and Haley have any different websites I can link up for yall at myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks? Im trying to get a couple more projects off the ground I have a few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the four state Area and in Pittsburg soon. I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in the works "Eagle Dawn" set drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and percussionist extraordinaire Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio. Send me your PSA's & I will try to get them some air time for you all and Haley! I also have been coming across a lot of random equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so let me know if their is anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of electronic and wood rubble? ha ha lol!!! Its all good :o) Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace, prosperity, wisdom, love and joy Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --Apple-Mail-3-895719315-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 21:10:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2FC83BED3; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAMjdKUeCVlCD/2dsb2JhbAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,359,1188802800"; d="scan'208";a="118668520" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> References: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mike Crain Subject: Re: square waves (as VST) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:10:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2XDo8B.A.AAC.LDkKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:10:35 +0000 (UTC) I'd be interested in checking that out, Andy. Mike On Nov 1, 2007, at 9:20 AM, andy butler wrote: > Interesting, > Henry Kaiser was using that effect in 1984 on his Solo Guitar album > (now playing). > Makes a lot more sense hearing it to know how he was doing that. > > So > > How much interest would there be for a vst plug-in that did that > effect? > ie, delay with square wave modulation. > > andy butler > > > Qua Veda wrote: >> At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square >> waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his >> loops. I really liked his performance. Did I misunderstand him? >> Can anyone explain how this is done? -Qua > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 21:51:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C0133BEB6; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1561 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:51:55 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <472A3C81.1010004@tiscali.co.uk> References: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> <4F84BF45-BBD7-4810-BD43-B8DF6B03F7F1@sonic.net> <472A3C81.1010004@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Landman Subject: Re: square waves (as VST) Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 14:25:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy- I'd be interested, like probably many others, the devil of course is always in the details, how good does it sound, what features does it offer, etc. A VST like my old Prime Time II with a little more memory would be useful enough to justify yet another delay plug-in, I think. Keep us advised! Mark On Nov 1, 2007, at 1:52 PM, andy butler wrote: > hi Mark, > ;-) > hint, > the reason I'm asking the question is that I already worked out how > to get a vst delay to act as if it had a modulated oscillator. > > > > ...would you actually want to purchase a vst plug with those > capabilities? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 22:45:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 377C53BEC7; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-220071141224543964@M2W024.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 18:45:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: square waves (as VST) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:45:47 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if folks who are knowledgable in Max/MSP or Reaktor could build this capability=2E -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark Landman mlandman@sonic=2Enet Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 10:35:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Re: square waves (as VST) One critical difference between using the old Lexicon boxes square =20 wave mod vs=2E a VST or any newer fx box is the way the delay is done=2E The Lexi's modulated an oscillator that clocked the delay, nowadays =20 delay lines just aren't done that way=2E If you look back thru the =20 archives Kim talked about this a lot when we were asking for pitch/=20 time changing effects on the Echoplex=2E Years ago I had a Lexicon Prime Time II with expanded memory, and =20 square wave modulating a long loop was one of my favorite techniques=2E =20= Adding some short resonant feedback throbs via the 2nd tap (the Prime =20 Time II was a 2 tap delay line with great onboard mixing =20 capabilities!) and it was loop heaven=2E Since then I've tried to =20 emulate that sound with many fx boxes including Eventide and Kyma, =20 and it's never sounded the same=2E Having said all this, if this sound could be caught in a plug-in it'd =20 be great=2E Mark > > Qua Veda wrote: >> At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square =20 >> waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his =20 >> loops=2E I really liked his performance=2E Did I misunderstand him=3F= =20 >> Can anyone explain how this is done=3F -Qua > -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom =96 What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you=3F http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Business/SharePoint From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 23:37:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A330F3BEB0; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 303 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:37:22 UTC Reply-To: From: "Aaron Leese" To: Subject: FlyLoops and electronic instruments Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:31:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acgcovrq1UNH1tGdQIC5dAraNHNolgAO2T5Q Message-Id: <20071101233722.D7CCD3BEAC@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Hey all ... In response to the many inquiries I got about using Flyloops with VSTs and other programs, I've gone ahead and applied for a license from Propellerhead to get the libraries to make Flyloops Rewire compatible. In English ..... this will make it possible to use the output from other programs (like samplers which generate the sound for electronic instruments/keyboards, etc. or VST instruments) ... and use that sound as the inputs that Flyloops sees, and can then loop. And thanks everyone for your great input during Y2K7 .... always nice to get ideas about what different people look for in their "ideal" looper. I was blown away by the number of other engineers at the festival. Just for reference, here is the list of programs that are Re-Wire compatible: Ableton Live Adobe Audition Logic Audio Arturia Storm FL Studio Cakewalk Sonar Companion E&D Intuem RW Cycling '74 Max/MSP Digidesign Pro Tools GarageBand Granted Software ReVision Line 6 GuitarPort Line 6 RiffTracker MOTU Digital Performer Opcode Vision DSP Opcode Studio Vision Plogue Bidule Raw Material Tracktion Pro Tools on OS9 using reFuse Sonoma Wire Works RiffWorks Sony ACID Pro Steinberg Cubase Steinberg Nuendo Synapse Audio Orion ArKaos VJ Arturia Storm Audionaut Obsession Bitheadz Retro AS-1 Bitheadz Unity DS-1 Digital Salade Toki Shot FL Studio Cakewalk Project 5 MadTracker Cycling '74 Max/MSP Plogue Bidule Propellerheads Reason Propellerheads ReBirth RB-338 Sony ACID Pro Speedsoft VSampler Tascam GigaStudio Toontrack dfh SUPERIOR Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 12:00 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Nov 1 23:42:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C43FB3BEB8; Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Aaron Leese" To: Subject: funky music from lack of sleep Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 16:41:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <4729FCB0.5070900@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acgcovrq1UNH1tGdQIC5dAraNHNolgAPG2rg Message-Id: <20071101234201.16EFD3BEAC@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 23:42:01 +0000 (UTC) Monday I got a new function finished for Flyloops which allows you to save your session ... that is, save everything you are playing and looping. So I've been sitting here playing and recording and barely eating for a couple days now (get going on a project and suddenly it's 3AM and your wondering why your so hungry .... ha). Anyway .... I thought I would share ... since I realized I have yet to have ever posted any music on here, and this one turned out nicely. Feedback is always appreciated .... http://www.aaronleese.com/sickness%20spreading.mp3 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.487 / Virus Database: 0.0.0/0 - Release Date: 12:00 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 01:10:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 749DE3BEC7; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=fTIVW2rkQMlKqRqYpsfhfnaq2Q2JpatR1+8JHBXogauEWHuakqjvQUX7iH3xhFMWcX9IvfwYw6CMMkjwKJHy6ew1ioaAyUk/X4I2VsC1YRjdc42P+YltZssmLjvp5A7IrDO3FD0eSfOo9w0hkBnKzckhIPgri6cTqmbeK40u4do=; X-YMail-OSG: 1fxq.gIVM1m4oO47HoGX9IdaoQ_cggBdpLeovGrOkljLhjetSdIxMZCqerwI0rJA8A-- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 21:10:09 -0400 (EDT) From: JASON CASKENTTE Subject: AKAI MPC500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-762962504-1193965809=:61285" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <742255.61285.qm@web88314.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 01:10:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-762962504-1193965809=:61285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just wondering if any one has a AKAI MPC500 and what they think of them? I'm considering adding one to the family (an FCB1010 controlled EDP and a JAMMAN). any help and or sugestions welcom --0-762962504-1193965809=:61285 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Just wondering if any one has a AKAI MPC500 and what they think of them? I'm considering adding one to the family  (an  FCB1010 controlled EDP and a JAMMAN).
 
any help and or sugestions welcom
--0-762962504-1193965809=:61285-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Nov 2 02:00:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76E953BEB9; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 02:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e101c81cf4$2537c8f0$0eaae40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New CD Release: Music Unfit for Children Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 20:00:28 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DB_01C81CC1.D97CCDC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: